[lubuntu-devel] Architecture EOL plans for Lubuntu

[Julien Lavergne]

And to be complete, this is from a Lubuntu dev (forget my official
mail address :-)).

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

2016-07-11 23:08 GMT+02:00 Julien Lavergne <julien.lavergne at gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> We usually try to maintain support for hardware as long as possible.
> Last time support for PAE was dropped, we had many complains about the
> drop of this support. So, I can't be in favor of dropping such
> support.
>
> The essence of Lubuntu is to keep hardware as long as they can
> physically live. That includes 10 years old computers, which still
> works. Since I started to work on Lubuntu, I fight against Apple and
> Microsoft concept of "If you want a new OS, by a new hardware". Some
> people can't offer this, not everyone can buy hardware like in Europe
> or US.
>
> But well, I'm not a kernel maintainer, or an repository admin, so I
> can't force Ubuntu to maintain this. However, I'll be sad if Ubuntu
> became "Linux for 90 % [1] of people, the ones with not so old
> hardware".
>
> So, short answer : wait until 18.04.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> [1] completely random number, but you know what I mean.
>
> 2016-07-11 20:36 GMT+02:00 Bryan Quigley <bryan.quigley at canonical.com>:
>> Hi Lubuntu team,
>>
>> From the thread on Ubuntu-devel/discuss [1] I'm going to start
>> conversations with each flavor on what their plans are for i386 in the
>> 18.04 timeframe.  I have some survey results [2] that might help with planning.
>>
>> Lubuntu also has a PowerPC port so discussing plans around that might
>> be worth while as well.
>>
>> The general ideas are either:
>> *Start Dropping i386 for Lubuntu now*
>> A. Drop Lubuntu i386 ISO for 16.10
>> B. In addition to A, also block upgrades by dropping packages from
>> i386 archive (say lxde-core).
>>
>> Some Pros:  Halves the test cases you need to go through.   Reduces
>> bandwidth usage and makes it more obvious for new users what to
>> download.  (Read other thread for some others)
>>
>> *Wait until after 18.04 and then reconsider dropping i386*
>>
>> Pros:  Maintain older hardware running Lubuntu for another 2+
>> years (up from 3 years).
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> Bryan
>>
>> * You could consider any packages that are 100% specific to the Lubuntu flavor.
>>
>> [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-June/039420.html
>>
>> [2] The total results for Lubuntu  (43 of the 300 responses).
>> Not surprising given that you are the most lightweight (by memory)
>> distribution, users expected to get longer use out of their machines
>> then with any other desktop flavor.
>>
>> How long do you expect this machine to last?
>> at least 1 year 4
>> at least 3 years 13
>> at least 5 years 8
>> at least 7 years or more 18
>>
>> What would be the effect if support ended... (1 is no impact, 5 is
>> significant impact)
>> April 2019 (16.04 LTS support ends here for Lubuntu - 3 year LTS)
>> 1 - 4
>> 2 - 5
>> 3 - 8
>> 4 - 7
>> 5 - 17
>>
>> April 2021
>> 1 - 11
>> 2 - 9
>> 3 - 5
>> 4 - 4
>> 5 - 12
>>
>> April 2023
>> 1 - 22
>> 2 - 4
>> 3 - 2
>> 4 - 1
>> 5 - 11
>>
>> i386 - To be clear I mean any 32-bit x86 platform (usually AMD/Intel/VIA).
>> PowerPC - Apple Macintosh G3, G4, and G5 computers, including iBooks
>> and PowerBooks as well as older IBM OpenPower 7xx machines.
>>
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