[lubuntu-devel] Lubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 15, Issue 7

Mark F azdays15 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 22 16:20:43 UTC 2016


Puppy Linux has a PPC distro (MacPup and PowerPup). You can google for
"Puppy Linux compared to Lubuntu" and find a lot, including this video
comparing 15.04:

https://youtu.be/mUdEI2bDWFQ

I played with Puppy a few years ago and liked it. I think they try to be
lighter.


On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 6:08 AM, jim northrop <
james.b.northrop at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Does this mean my Lubuntu 16.10 install is the final version for my PPC
> Apple iMac ?
>
> Does anyone know of another PPC distro i can swap to if this is the case?
>
> thx
>
> On 22 December 2016 at 13:00, <lubuntu-devel-request at lists.ubuntu.com>
> wrote:
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>    1.  Fwd: Removing 32-bit powerpc architecture from   future Ubuntu
>>       releases (Simon Quigley)
>>    2. Re:  Fwd: Removing 32-bit powerpc architecture from future
>>       Ubuntu releases (Nio Wiklund)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 18:16:36 -0600
>> From: Simon Quigley <tsimonq2 at lubuntu.me>
>> To: lubuntu-devel <lubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: [lubuntu-devel] Fwd: Removing 32-bit powerpc architecture
>>         from    future Ubuntu releases
>> Message-ID: <eb29c723-aae2-28e5-aade-77eadda8b332 at lubuntu.me>
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>> I believe this directly affects us.
>>
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>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: Removing 32-bit powerpc architecture from future Ubuntu releases
>> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 18:10:20 -0600
>> From: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek at ubuntu.com>
>> Reply-To: ubuntu-devel-discuss at lists.ubuntu.com
>> To: ubuntu-devel-announce at lists.ubuntu.com
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>> Dear developers,
>>
>> Given the recent announcement that the powerpc architecture would be
>> dropped
>> =66rom the upcoming Debian release[1], there has been a good deal of
>> discussion about the future of this architecture in Ubuntu as well,
>> including a session at last month's Ubuntu Online Summit[2] and several
>> discussions during Technical Board meetings.
>>
>> Unlike the ppc64el architecture, there is no longer upstream support for
>> the
>> 32-bit, big-endian powerpc architecture; so its continuation in Ubuntu
>> would
>> be dependent on identifying a community of contributors willing to invest
>> in
>> keeping this port in working order, to carry it forward without it
>> negatively impacting Ubuntu development as a whole.
>>
>> We thank the Linux PowerPC community for their support of Ubuntu over the
>> years.  However, efforts since UOS to identify participants for such
>> community support going forward have led to the inevitable conclusion that
>> the powerpc port in Ubuntu has reached the end of its useful lifespan.
>>
>> The Technical Board has therefore determined that the powerpc port should
>> not be included in the Ubuntu 17.04 (zesty) release.  In support of this,
>> powerpc will be dropped as an architecture in zesty as of Feature
>> Freeze[3].
>>
>> The powerpc architecture will continue to be supported as part of existing
>> stable releases.  Since powerpc is included in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, security
>> updates for existing packages can be expected until April 2021.  We
>> believe
>> this should provide users of Ubuntu powerpc adequate time to plan a
>> migration off of this architecture.
>>
>> On behalf of the Technical Board,
>> --=20
>> Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
>> Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
>> Ubuntu Developer
>> http://www.debian.org/
>> slangasek at ubuntu.com
>> vorlon at debian.org
>>
>> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/10/msg00008.html
>> [2] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22714/architecture
>> -discussion=
>> s/
>> <http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22714/architecture-discussion=s/>
>> [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 06:02:31 +0100
>> From: Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com>
>> To: Simon Quigley <tsimonq2 at lubuntu.me>, lubuntu-devel
>>         <lubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: [lubuntu-devel] Fwd: Removing 32-bit powerpc architecture
>>         from future Ubuntu releases
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>> Den 2016-12-22 kl. 01:16, skrev Simon Quigley:
>> > I believe this directly affects us.
>> >
>> >
>> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> > Subject: Removing 32-bit powerpc architecture from future Ubuntu
>> releases
>> > Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 18:10:20 -0600
>> > From: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek at ubuntu.com>
>> > Reply-To: ubuntu-devel-discuss at lists.ubuntu.com
>> > To: ubuntu-devel-announce at lists.ubuntu.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Hi Simon,
>>
>> "Given the recent announcement that the powerpc architecture would be
>> dropped from the upcoming Debian release, there has been a good deal of
>> discussion about the future of this architecture in Ubuntu as well,
>> including a session at last month's Ubuntu Online Summit[2] and several
>> discussions during Technical Board meetings.
>>
>> Unlike the ppc64el architecture, there is no longer upstream support for
>> the 32-bit, big-endian powerpc architecture; so its continuation in
>> Ubuntu would be dependent on identifying a community of contributors
>> willing to invest in keeping this port in working order, to carry it
>> forward without it negatively impacting Ubuntu development as a whole.
>>
>> We thank the Linux PowerPC community for their support of Ubuntu over
>> the years.  However, efforts since UOS to identify participants for such
>> community support going forward have led to the inevitable conclusion
>> that the powerpc port in Ubuntu has reached the end of its useful
>> lifespan.
>>
>> The Technical Board has therefore determined that the powerpc port
>> should not be included in the Ubuntu 17.04 (zesty) release."
>>
>> -o-
>>
>> My comments are
>>
>> 1. Yes, this is the inevitable conclusion.
>>
>> 2. I'm glad that i386 alias 32-bit for Intel and AMD PC computers and
>> the Lubuntu alternate iso files will still be developed for new versions.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Nio
>>
>>
>>
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