[lubuntu-devel] Alternate Images

Phill. Whiteside phillwuk at gmail.com
Fri Apr 15 18:16:32 UTC 2016


The Alternate image IS the debian installer!!!

Regards,

Phil.

On 15 April 2016 at 19:10, Simon Quigley <tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Phill. Whiteside wrote:
> > Simon,
> >
> > lubuntu favours older computers. That has the side effect of it
> > running like the wind on newer kit. Last cycle was the first time the
> > alternate and desktop images became different in terms of what was on
> > the finished install. The Desktop image is already a 'DVD ISO' with
> > full language support. The Alternate image does not have this. Our
> > default applications remain the same. Trying to support two versions
> > of lubuntu of the same release is a recipe for confusion and disaster,
> > not to mention we lack the human resources to do so.
>
> That statement contradicts itself. We have the desktop and the alternate
> images, yet, "Trying to support two versions of lubuntu of the same
> release is a recipe for confusion and disaster, not to mention we lack
> the human resources to do so."
>
> > Do not forget, lubuntu is the only flavour in the family that people
> > with machines that can only boot from CD can turn to. Something I'm
> > proud of. Julien and the release team will support it for so long as
> > it is tested. The massive help with the alternate image is that it is
> > based on the debian installer which is exactly the same as the server
> > image uses, so any bugs (as has happened this cycle), will be kindly
> > looked at by one of the guys who look after the server installer and
> > any lubuntu specific glitches will be addressed by the same nice
> > people. Where this not the case, alternate images would have 'died' a
> > couple of cycles back.
>
> What about the netboot image? The netboot image is *way* under CD size.
> With this logic, if we really wanted a CD-sized image, there's a good
> chance we could probably tweak the netboot installer to make it function
> like the Lubuntu alternate installer and release that separately.
>
> > If you, or anyone else, fancy rolling up their sleeves, it used to be
> > possible to upgrade using the alternate image. The code is still
> > there, but no one maintains it. I was told that if we were to maintain
> > it, it could be switched back on specifically for lubuntu - which
> > would be a boon for those with several computers to upgrade and who's
> > bandwidth is either expensive or slow.
>
> Debian has upgrade images. The code is there and supported by Debian. We
> just need to tweak it for Lubuntu. But that would be a separate image
> nonetheless.
>
> --
> Simon Quigley
> tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com
> tsimonq2 on Freenode
>
>
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