Hello, I received some feedback regarding my last post, most of them positive, some of them finding my post was unfair to canonical. When I say that Canonical's hosting sucks, I think it is great they actually ARE providing hosting. Back some time ago this was not the case. It is not their primary role, and criticising something which is given out for free may sound unfair, ok. But even though these servers may be enough for locoteams which are not using another language as english, for other locoteams which also need to run a forum, a wiki, a planet, a lot of self developped tools to do whatever we need (a sources.list generator, a picture gallery, a... whatever), the power of the proposed servers and the level of reliability they provide is not enough (raid? backup policy? 24h/ reboot?) When I say it is hard to get these event boxes, I say it is great that canonical are doing them, because this hasn't been always the case neither. We were able here to get a couple of these boxes which included free flyers, stickers, and a couple of tee shirts, and were very happy about it in the past. Thing is, we are not able to get them anymore, and people are asking for translated material :) Concerning to the foundation, I stick to my view, I find it sad that it is not being more used. About the locoteam agreement we have, I won't get further in details how hard it was to get it, and I doubt any other loco could get any... But we are _very_ happy about it and for us it was a huge step in the right direction. <blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">In the majority of cases, people who want to support a LoCo team want to help a specific LoCo team, not the wider LoCo project, and I have never seen a company come forward to support the wider project, let alone<pre>getting into discussions as to whether they donate to a company or not.</pre> </blockquote><div> Well, we did :) Alright, very specifical case. But when you give money to wikipedia, do you bother saying "I want this money to be used only by wikipedia france" or "this money should only be used by the wikipedia common project"? No, you give the money to "the wikipedia project" which then decides how to spend it the best way... Maybe a dodgy comparison... but I do believe some people want to see the community as a whole and would prefer to give to "the community" and not only "ubuntu cambridge loco"... So please don't get me wrong. I am not here to bash Canonical and/or "fork" the community. I am very happy that Canonical does what it does, also I have a couple of things I am not happy with. As I told to Jono on the phone, for me canonical is 85% good, and I am trying to help improve the other 15%. It is definitely very good that canonical is providing the community with Cds, hosting, and other merchandising, I can't see any other community where this is happening. But even if Canonical does help a lot, they can not provide for everything, and ubuntu-de and ubuntu-fr used to get in a lot of trouble when trying to get what Canonical was not providing (tee shirts at a time, hosting at another time, merchandising and translated flyers, banners, posters, even train tickets in some rare cases... now). So we just want to make it easier for other growing locoteams, which we believe may run in the same troubles. Right now we have a company (system76) sending stickers all over the world... people like juliux or jenda making big orders and then dispatching it to other locos.. there was someone providing shirts for some time too...  these are all individual actions, which are great, but often involves a lot of financial risk and higher prices than if it was done on a larger scale. So the idea is if 3 or 4 locos put money together to get stickers, like 12000, maybe these 3-4 locos would love to give part of the stickers to other locos. Right now, that kind of work is very hard to achieve. Some people were stating that Ubuntu already had a Foundation which could do all that. I think that it would be great, but I am not sure this is going to happen in a near future. Yann  </div> <pre> </pre>