[loco-contacts] Our teams reject the new LoCo Council policy
Michael Hall
mhall119 at ubuntu.com
Mon Oct 13 15:08:42 UTC 2014
The new policy has a built-in mechanism for exceptions to this, and the
Catalan team has already been given such an exception.
Any team that feels the country rule is not suitable or beneficial to
them for cultural, language, historical or other reasons just has to ask
to the LoCo Council for such an exception prior to their applying for
verified[1] team status.
Again this is policy sets the per-country standard as a general
guideline, not an absolute rule, and the LoCo Council has provided a way
for teams to work around that when they feel it is appropriate for their
community.
[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamVerificationGuidelines
Michael Hall
mhall119 at ubuntu.com
On 10/13/2014 10:45 AM, Marcos Lans wrote:
> Please, so tell me how I misunderstood this point:
>
>
> - LoCos not meeting the criteria of country/state teams will be denied
> verification.
>
> Tx
>
> On 13/10/14 16:16, Stephen Michael Kellat wrote:
>> Thank you very much for writing. There can be misunderstandings when
>> people fail to read entire documents. Nothing requires you to be
>> "subordinated" to Spain. LoCo Council has the flexibility to consider
>> your region standing alone instead lieu of as part of the Spanish
>> nation-state.
>>
>> Please write to the LoCo Council directly and we'll be more than happy
>> to consider your situation.
>>
>> Stephen Michael Kellat
>>
>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2014, marcoslans wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 18:47:02 +0200
>>> From: marcoslans <marcoslans at hotmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: "Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts"
>>> <loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>> To: "Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts"
>>> <loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [loco-contacts] Our teams reject the new LoCo Council
>>> policy
>>>
>>> Just to say as galician translator and loco member, I never will be
>>> subordinated to spanish loco. You show an annoying lack of awareness
>>> about the subject. Brazil has nothing to do with us. Ubuntu volunteers
>>> are seeing a progressive degradation of the original philosophy that
>>> some of us shared.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/10/14 20:57, Jos? Antonio Rey wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> This is a policy the LoCo Council as well as the Community Council has
>>>> come up with after several weeks of discussion, considering what is the
>>>> best scenario for most teams around the globe.
>>>>
>>>> If you feel a subteam inside your country should be considered as a LoCo
>>>> Team, you can follow the steps outlined in the policy in order to
>>>> request the consideration as a separate LoCo Team. We will have a
>>>> problem taking a look at it. The Catalan team is, even, already
>>>> considered a separate LoCo Team.
>>>>
>>>> At this current point I, personally, do not see any problems with the
>>>> policy in place and believe that it will help build stronger LoCo Teams.
>>>> We have even seen Brazil using this policy for a good while now and they
>>>> have been doing an outstanding work.
>>>>
>>>> If there is anything we can help you with, please let us know.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/11/2014 01:15 PM, Ubuntu-ast wrote:
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> We would like to express our disagreement with the new organization
>>>>> politics on LoCo Teams presented by the LoCo Council. It has been a not
>>>>> consensual decision and even our LoCos were not consulted at any
>>>>> moment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Establishing a LoCo per state would create organisational problems
>>>>> between them.
>>>>>
>>>>> This new politic has been thought regardless of cultures and languages
>>>>> of possible regions on the countries, we consider this extent against
>>>>> Ubuntu philosophy, where from the beginning cultural and linguistic
>>>>> richness were promoted. As for translation teams, always related to
>>>>> their LoCos, this compulsive subordination is offensive for Galician,
>>>>> Basque, Catalan and Asturian translators and could carry abandoning
>>>>> some
>>>>> language translations.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From Ubuntu-ast, Ubuntu-cat and Ubuntu-gl, we are always looking
>>>>> forward
>>>>> to work with other LoCos anywhere. The hard work from our members is
>>>>> volunteering, and this new politics does not take in
>>>>> account the people, their culture or their work, but only countries,
>>>>> introducing a whimsical administrative organisation element that has
>>>>> nothing to do with people.
>>>>>
>>>>> As this is volunteering work, the better thing to do would be not to
>>>>> annoy the volunteers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a moment when Ubuntu community is not growing in any sense,
>>>>> please don?t make things worse with bad decisions. We request the
>>>>> removal of this new policy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>
>>>>> On behalf of the Ubuntu-cat, Ubuntu-eu, Ubuntu-gl & Ubuntu-ast teams
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> * Ingl?s - detectado
>>> * Galego
>>> * Castel?n
>>>
>>> * Galego
>>> * Castel?n
>>>
>>> <javascript:void(0);>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>> Stephen Michael Kellat
>>
>
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