Re-Energizing LoCo Teams

[Pablo Rubianes]

Hi all,
As I am part of the LoCo Council I want to say that there's no magic here,
no single solutions for the community problems,
but as Bhavani said we are working to get the best solution for all cases,
because not all the LoCos work the same, because maybe you get a great
solution thinking on just one o a few LoCos and that same solution is the
cause of much more troubles for others...

First,
I find really useful to get criticized as that help you get better in the
stuff you are doing wrong, so if you have something to say, now is a great
time! as Javier said we need to improve our community.

Also I want to point out that the LoCo Council is open to get proposals and
feedback for all of you, any team or anyone, don't wait until there's a
problem to say we can improve something.
And as it was said above in other emails we need to have a lot, but a lot,
better communication, between us in the community and with the LoCos
because what will lead to less Media-Gates and less people waking from
LoCos.

I'm with the guys that said we need to have multi-Language resources, the
ubuntu sites, launchpad or the forums/ASKubuntu.
I know people who don't report bug because you have to do it in English,
people who end up asking in a facebook group because there's no place for
them to ask in Spanish a question they have about Ubuntu, and the answers
got lost in facebook. And I'm sure this happens in other Languages.
The fact that only English have official resources is making the other
language speaking LoCos to have to multiply resources, infrastructure,
time, answers and people doing the same thing.

So to end up, I really don't care how we got here, but all of us think
there's much things that are wrong around, so let's get together to work in
fixing them!

Pablo


2013/8/31 Javier Lopez <chilicuil at ubuntu.com>

> On 31/08/13 at 12:53pm, YoBoY wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I'm not perhaps the right person to talk about locoteams here
> > because everyone thinks my team is not like the others (French
> > team). But we are a normal locoteam, we are the team for all the
> > French users.
> >
> > You are right, lot of people from my team are demotivated. Why?
> >
> > Canonical/Ubuntu is focused on Ubuntu Phone this year, we can't
> > promote that, it's not for the average users. And how can we talk
> > about something we can't even try. It's not like we have all a spare
> > phone or tablet to play with it.
> >
> > Canonical added Amazon last year, we can't promote that, and we have
> > a hard time to try to explain why you have done that. You can't
> > imagine how many motivated members we have lost with that.
> >
> > Canonical/Ubuntu wants new developers and contributors for the
> > project, we can't help you on that too. Actual French developers and
> > contributors don't participate on our locoteam, don't register to
> > our mailing lists. To have some of them (thanks to the past real UDS
> > for letting me meet them) on our events I always have to ping them,
> > mail them, call them, and it's time consuming and very frustrating.
> >
> > Now, we don't have enough people to lead, to organise events, to
> > make things work. New members want to participate but don't want
> > responsibilities.
> >
> >
> > ## Re-energizing
> > You want to re-energize LoCo teams. Thank you for that, we clearly
> > need help and new motivated members.
> >
> > You can start by a call to all the actual developers and
> > contributors to join the locoteam near them, on internet or in real
> > life, and to help them organize some events (virtual or real) like
> > the next global jam, localised open weeks,….
> >
> > You can also give us some food, some premium news, some press
> > release. When ubuntu announce something we are on the front line for
> > the foreign media, and we don't have clear answers to give them.
> >
> > You can fix the amazon-gate to regain the confidence of lot of
> > people (and mine). I don't expect you to remove it, but a
> > proposition is to just add a clear notification (translatable) for a
> > new user to force him to read and accept the online searches.
> >
> > You can help us with material too. I don't ask to give us this
> > material. But for example, the great tablecloth, why can't we buy
> > more of it. Or the lanyards, why can't we buy some at a better rate
> > than the canonical shop. Same thing for the stickers. Having to make
> > our own material is time consuming, is not always with the best
> > price for the quantity needed, and we surely can do better on that.
> >
> > You can showcase more all the great work done by the locoteams on
> > the *.ubuntu.com domains and not only the events who already are on
> > the loco portal. For example, the foreign resources offered by the
> > locoteams who have to take in charge the support in their language,
> > why these resources are not presented to a visitor coming to
> > help.ubuntu.com or to community.ubuntu.com on a side box for
> > example. These resources for my team represent the biggest part of
> > our work, and they are so hard to find on the ubuntu.com domains.
>
> +1 for all of this, also I think ubuntu.com should be browsable in several
> languages, most of our users can't read English, and they don't understand
> (neither I can) why the main site is not in their language.
>
> >
> >
> > I stop here with my non-constructive email, and I hope I have not
> > hurt someone’s feelings with my criticism. I'm sorry if I have.
>
> If we don't discuss real issues we're not gonna improve our communities =)
>
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