Approval Workflow

[Daniel Van‵Stone]

> Thank you Niel,
> 
> What if you are not an approved Team do you still get any input. Teams
> that have been Approved such as the Dallas Team from Texas,USA. and
> Houston Team have activity but are not recognized as part of Ubuntu
> approved Loco Teams.
> 
> These Teams show and have shown activity have been active in IRC and
> have well organized information on several sites.
> 
> Ubuntu insists on many things but as times change these rules have
> been interpreted differently by different members of the Ubuntu
> Community as well as some leaders. But I am not pointing fingers (that
> is not my point). This sometimes happens as structure and
> infrastructure grow.
> 
> The point I first got snagged on was the "For the Community" catch
> phrase. In some ways some communities may seem disorganized more than
> others. Here is why:
> Education
> Culture
> Belief
> Time
> 
> Not every member here need possess a PHD from Purdue. Some people
> spend time on project for the experience (as a Student), or need. If
> it becomes a burden to Form a Team I believe that is whole heartedly
> against the intention and meaning of Ubuntu.
> 
> Yes mentorship and a community backing sounds great but why disqualify
> Teams unless they don't follow Ubuntu tradition, not policy.
> 
> I understand that part of it may be a resource issue. That is simple
> "only provide discs when asked" a ticket to say I may have 40 people
> gathering " may I request some i.e.-lanyard, discs, stickers " .
> 
> I am no Team Admin or the like, but I wanted to reply.
> 
> Ubuntu is a good thing.
> 
> I hope that this didn't offend the ewok masters that be.
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> Daniel Van`Stone
> 
On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 16:16 +0200, Neil Coetzer wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 14:52 +0200, Philipp Stiegler wrote:
> > I know some guys, who have their work, make their studies AND care
> > about the ubuntu project. They do that for free without asking for
> > payment or asking for anything else. Thats why I think that its not
> > fair that a council judge that people.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just to give a somewhat impartial view on this, because our LoCo Team is
> still a way off of being approved I think, and this is something we're
> working towards...
> 
> 1. I certainly don't think the Council is judging people as individuals,
> but rather how those individuals come together as a team and organise
> themselves, which is quite different in my opinion. There may be a
> number of individuals on a team who are a shining example of commitment
> and hard work, but this does not necessarily mean that the team is
> performing well. And when the team does not meet required standards,
> this is also not necessarily a bad reflection on the individuals who are
> doing their best.
> 
> 2. Team accountability and organisation is vital, particularly when
> additional resources are being given to them, so I personally feel that
> the approval process is important. I think how this is viewed depends on
> individual perspectives, but I'm sure it is not intended to discourage
> people, but quite the opposite; it gives teams something to aim for both
> initially, and in the long-term. 
> 
> 3. Speaking from the experiences we've had in our team: There have been
> times when the team has nearly fallen apart, due to lack of enthusiasm
> and personal clashes among other things. The main reason we have tried
> so hard to keep things together is obviously for the overall well-being
> of Ubuntu and the community in our area, but at least one other reason
> was knowing that we have goals to achieve, including reaching the point
> where we're ready for approval. Knowing that we're not just "doing our
> own thing" and that in the long run we have expectations to meet, is one
> of the things that has helped motivate us to keep things together.
> 
> 4. For Teams facing "re" approval, I think this is just as important. I
> can think of any number of voluntary commitments that are started with
> good intentions but never continue or reach completion simply because
> people have to deal with other issues in their lives and at some point
> might lose interest. Having to be approved repeatedly ensures that Teams
> maintain their commitment and continue to deliver results.
> 
> In summary, I do think that even voluntary groups need a certain amount
> of "policing" to maintain standards, but this should be seen as
> motivation, rather than discouragement. It should encourage us to keep
> getting better and better, both as teams and as individuals, as we reach
> for the goals that have been set.
> 
> Regards,
> Neil
> 
> Team Contact
> Zimbabwe LoCo
> 
> 

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