Need help getting an Ubuntu Stack Exchange created through promotion

[Stas Sușcov]

În data de Jo, 15-07-2010 la 14:45 +0100, Evan Dandrea a scris:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Stas Sușcov <stas la nerd.ro> wrote:
> > * The data belongs to the guys behind SE
> 
> This is patently false.  It's licensed CC-by-SA 3.0
> 
> http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/04/changes-to-stack-exchange/
> http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/06/stack-overflow-creative-commons-data-dump/
> 

As long as the data isn't held by community, you can't guarantee
anything.

> > My advice is, if you want to start a new community around SE, do that,
> > but stop asking people to help you without explaining them all the pros
> > and cons of this action.
> 
> I did explain the pros.  If you want a deeper explanation, read my or
> Iain's blog posts.
> 
> I don't see any cons here.  If it works for some people, fantastic!
> We've got a new way to help even more people.  If it doesn't work for
> some people, that's okay.  They can still use Ubuntu Forums, Launchpad
> Answers, or whatever suits them best.

The idea, my main idea, was to not push it as hard as you're trying to
do that. It's like me, creating a facebook group and asking everyone to
join it. I see no reason to ask loco's to support you, you want it,
build that on you're own, and get your fans, that's all.

> 
> > * It has nothing to do with ubuntu as a community
> 
> That's fairly vague, can you elaborate on what you mean?
> 

A new account, a new profile, no localizations, no users rating
(launchpad was done for that) and so on.

> > What I would really like to see, is a new initiative to
> > rebuild/organize/simplify existing ubuntu forums, instead of trying to
> > get people on SE.
> 
> A forums website is an ill fit for a Q&A workflow.  You have to
> manually mark a thread as solved, the replies to a thread are
> organized by date, rather than usefulness, there's no obvious way to
> find unanswered questions, there's no rewards system for a good
> answer, etc, etc, etc.  You could bolt all of these things onto a
> forums website, but then you'd have a Q&A site, or some Frankenstein
> tool that tries to be both while sacrificing simplicity and thus ease
> of use.
> 

Make it fit, that's all.
Publish code under some BSD-ish/GPL-ish licence, and you're the next
Ubuntu Community Rockstar. Let's ask every loco to jump on twitter and
facebook, this is like it sounds for me. Btw, WordPress community said
they better build/improve their own system, so can we do, if the problem
is that something isn't good enough.

> Stack Exchange is here today and it works extraordinarily well because
> it was specifically designed for the use case we're looking to fill.
> 

Again, that's not an excuse to sound the siren.