Re: LoCo Council Meeting and Ubuntu-sv | Reunión del Consejo de Comunidades locales y Ubuntu-sv

[Leandro Gómez]

Hi all,

I've been reading the logs at the lococouncil mailing list about the
Ubuntu-sv situation and I wanted to add some additional information about
this.

Some background:

I've been involved with Ubuntu-sv since the beginning in 2007. The Ubuntu-ni
team helped to get the .sv team started and we have mentored them over the
years until their approval. Both teams have worked closely together in the
past three years, in the ambit of the Ubuntu Central American project, and
in big events such as FLISOL or SFD, there's always members from both teams
travelling to El Salvador or to Nicaragua helping out their fellow
community.

Now, the El Salvador community is basically divided in two small groups from
two different cities; the group that's managed by the founders of the team
(Celvin, Edgar) that are from the western part of the country, and the group
from the capital city San Salvador.

Both groups get along well and works together in big events and projects,
but IMHO there's a lack of communication that leads sometimes to unnecessary
friction on the mailing list. The team leaders doesn't always communicate
things clearly to team members. I don't think it's intentionally, it's just
a lack of basic leadership skills.

The problems inside the team started last year during a period of
inactivity. David appointed himself as the new team contact without further
consultation with the team.

Later on, previous to the SFD 2009 event, David complained about the team
leaders not sharing resources (CDs, conference packs) with the rest of the
community. i don't know if this was actually true. What is true is that the
situation was managed badly, by both parts. There were a lot of #flame that
lead to the expulsion of David from the mailing list.

Norman, former Ubuntu-ni team lead, and I tried to mediate and talked with
both parts off-list on a veeeryyyy long thread.

Today, there's still problems between Celvin and Edgar (team leaders) and
David. According to Edgar, David is no longer banned on the list, and David
is still in charge (webadmin) of the Ubuntu-sv website and contributing to
the team wiki.

On the other hand, David argues that he is not interested in participating
in a repressive community.

As I see it, the Ubuntu-sv situation is more a clash of personalities than
anything else, and there's no easy solution.

BTW, I think I'm going to abstain to participate on this topic as it may be
interpreted as a conflict of interest. I'm friend to all three of them and
wish to keep it that way. :)

Cheers,
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