Help promoting Ubuntu Global Jam
Efrain Valles
effie-jayx at ubuntu.com
Sat Sep 26 21:39:05 BST 2009
on promoting global jam...
what is the hashtag for identi.ca and twitter..?
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Greg Grossmeier <greg at grossmeier.net> wrote:
> Hi all, sorry for my late response. Comments inline.
>
> <quoting name="Niels Kjøller Hansen" date="2009-09-22" time="09:02:56 +0200">
>
>> man, 21 09 2009 kl. 22:57 +0200, skrev Leandro Gómez:
>> > 2009/9/21, Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren.b.c at gmail.com>:
>> > > 2009/9/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.telsen at gmail.com>:
>> > >> 2009/9/20 Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren.b.c at gmail.com>
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>
>> > >> I understand the license this way:
>> > >>
>> > >> If you're using the graphics for promoting the event, it's ok to not
>> > >> attribute the author. It's the UGJ we're promoting and there's no need to
>> > >> link to the authors site.
>> > >>
>> > >> But, if you're distributing the artwork or making derivated use of it,
>> > >> then
>> > >> you must attribute.
>> > >
>> > > Can someone please confirm this? If you use these graphics to promote
>> > > the event, you don't have to live up to the license requirement of
>> > > attribution? Can there be made this kind of exceptions from the CC
>> > > license?
>> >
>> > >From the CC website:
>> >
>> > "If the work itself contains any copyright notices placed there by the
>> > copyright holder, you must leave those notices in tact, or reproduce
>> > them in a way that is reasonable to the medium in which you are
>> > re-publishing the work."
>> >
>> > The work itself (the .png graphic) doesn't contain any copyright
>> > notice, so IMHO you're not violating the license.
>> >
>> > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FFAQ#How_do_I_properly_attribute_a_Creative_Commons_licensed_work.3F
>> >
>>
>> As I read it, the five bulletpoints on the linked FAQ-entry has an
>> implied AND in it. So just because the work doesn't contain a copyright
>> notice, it doesn't forego any attribution.
>
> That is correct. You must always give attribution to an author according
> to ANY of the CC licenses.
>
>> According to the CC-BY-SA license, every redistribution (even displaying
>> the button on your webpage) must be accompanied by the authors name and
>> a link to the license.
>
> Yep, see above.
>
>> However, the author IS allowed to grant every exception he or she likes.
>> So if the author thinks that "If you're using the graphics for promoting
>> the event, it's ok to not attribute the author.", then this is a
>> legitimate exception.
>
> Correct, but those kinds of exceptions, as they are not a part of the
> license, lead to confusion/only some people knowing about it, which you
> say below...
>
>>
>> But my point is that this is NOT implicit in the license and HAS to be
>> stated by the author in order to be applicable. So instead of each user
>> of the work should have to dig through this mailing list, stating this
>> exception on the wiki-page would be benificial.
>
> I agree that the author stating their additional exceptions everywhere
> they post it is helpful, and needed practically.
>
>
> So, in sum: the CC licenses say to always give attribution (otherwise
> you're plagarizing anyways, which isn't copyright infringement, but it
> is still "Not Cool"), but any author can state that they don't care about
> certain things. But doing so muddies the waters of what someone can and
> can't do with their work.
>
> All the best,
>
> Greg
>
>
> Note: I work for Creative Commons but I am NOT A LAWYER.
>
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