Help promoting Ubuntu Global Jam

[Savvas Radevic]

In my opinion, the best "license" would be releasing the artwork into
the public domain, like the tango icon library, open clipart (and some
indexed by clker.com)
I believe it would boost more creative derivatives, even if the
original creator is not mentioned.
The proper thing in this case of course would be to re-release the
derivative in public domain or... something like CC-SA. :-)

On 9/22/09, Rubén Romero y Cordero <huayra at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> In the SU (SpreadUbuntu) project I have tried to push for all artwork to be:
>
> 1. Either solely licensed under CC-BY-SA
> 2. Or double licensed with any license and CC-BY-SA as well
>
> This is mostly because I understand CC-BY-SA to be the most useful
> license for the purpose of marketing material distribution as well as
> allowing changes to the material at the same time.
>
> This might be off-topic for the loco-contact list, but I, personally,
> would like more discussion on this issue regarding licensing of
> material in the SU marketing repository site.
>
> Please feel free to start a thread or follow up earlier discussion
> within the list of the SU project:
>
> https://launchpad.net/spreadubuntu
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rubén Romero
> https://launchpad.net/~huayra
>
> SpreadUbuntu Enthusiast
> Ubuntu Norge LoCo team contact
>
> 2009/9/21, Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren.b.c at gmail.com>:
>> 2009/9/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.telsen at gmail.com>:
>>> 2009/9/21, Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren.b.c at gmail.com>:
>>>> 2009/9/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.telsen at gmail.com>:
>>>>> 2009/9/20 Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren.b.c at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The attribution information is included in the source files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Upon closer inspection, I see that now.
>>>>>> However, to make the use of these buttons more easy, maybe it should
>>>>>> be more explicit at the wiki page - but that is a minor issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, you're right...my mistake :)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If you have limited space, please don't use this graphics. It's as
>>>>>> > simple as
>>>>>> > that... ok... I'm the original author of the artwork, but if I
>>>>>> > weren't
>>>>>> > I
>>>>>> > would always think the same way:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't get me wrong here. I brought up the issue because the licensed
>>>>>> work is being miss used. I don't want to throw any specific links out
>>>>>> there, but go surfing planet ubuntu, and you will find people using
>>>>>> these graphics, but not attributing you as the original author. That
>>>>>> to me is a clear violation of the license, and I wanted to shine some
>>>>>> light on the issue - and possibly figure out if I had misunderstood
>>>>>> the license at some point.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand the license this way:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're using the graphics for promoting the event, it's ok to not
>>>>> attribute the author. It's the UGJ we're promoting and there's no need
>>>>> to
>>>>> link to the authors site.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, if you're distributing the artwork or making derivated use of it,
>>>>> then
>>>>> you must attribute.
>>>>
>>>> Can someone please confirm this? If you use these graphics to promote
>>>> the event, you don't have to live up to the license requirement of
>>>> attribution? Can there be made this kind of exceptions from the CC
>>>> license?
>>>
>>> From the CC website:
>>>
>>> "If the work itself contains any copyright notices placed there by the
>>> copyright holder, you must leave those notices in tact, or reproduce
>>> them in a way that is reasonable to the medium in which you are
>>> re-publishing the work."
>>>
>>> The work itself (the .png graphic) doesn't contain any copyright
>>> notice, so IMHO you're not violating the license.
>>>
>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FFAQ#How_do_I_properly_attribute_a_Creative_Commons_licensed_work.3F
>>>
>>
>> Great! Thanks! :)
>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Søren
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we as a community can't respect the license imposed by people
>>>>>> inside our own community on artwork, how can we the expect others
>>>>>> respect the license of the software, that seems to be so central to
>>>>>> the whole Free Software movement?
>>>>>
>>>>> I totally agree with you on this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > It doesn't matter if it's code, artwork, literature or music; the
>>>>>> > author
>>>>>> > must always be acknowleged... just because they've made the
>>>>>> > software,
>>>>>> > book,
>>>>>> > web banner or song available to the public for free, does'nt mean
>>>>>> > they
>>>>>> > don't
>>>>>> > deserve to be acknowledged for their hard work.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If I follow your logic correctly, we should be removing all the
>>>>>> > copyright
>>>>>> > notices from the software we use, because it takes more disk space
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > can
>>>>>> > become unhandy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my other mail I specifically tried to argued that those two can't
>>>>>> be compared. A few lines of text on one piece of paper take up a much
>>>>>> bigger fraction of the face of the paper, than a text document on a
>>>>>> harddisk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Usually, the copyright notice take up a tiny fraction of the brochure,
>>>>> poster, cd label,or whatever. I'm sure that you can make some space for
>>>>> it.
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > I don't want to be harsh, but if you're not going to respect the
>>>>>> > license, do
>>>>>> > your own artwork and publish it as PD or CC0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you miss understand me. I _do_ want to respect the license
>>>>>> chosen by you (and other publishers). That is the whole reason why I
>>>>>> bring up this subject.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However I think more people would be able to use the graphics if
>>>>>> another license was chosen. But of course the choice of license is
>>>>>> solely for the author!
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason I choose CC-BY-SA was that it was the most common license on
>>>>> the
>>>>> SU site. But I'm willing to change it if you feel that the current
>>>>> license
>>>>> prevents people from using the artwork.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Søren
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Cheers,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> The loco mailing list may not be the right forum for it, but maybe
>>>>>> >> there needs to be a general discussion of what license to use for
>>>>>> >> marketing material? Or it has already been had, and I have missed
>>>>>> >> it?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Cheers
>>>>>> >> Søren
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Best,
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Greg
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > [0] http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Cheers
>>>>>> >> >> Søren
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> 2009/8/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.telsen at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> >> >> > 2009/8/21 Jono Bacon <jono at ubuntu.com>
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> On 08/21/2009 12:10 PM, Leandro Gómez wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> >     Corrales to weave his magic? ;-)
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> > Yes indeed! Would anyone like to do these? Adolfo, could
>>>>>> >> >> >> > you
>>>>>> >> >> >> > ask
>>>>>> >> >> >> > Byron
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> > Made some badges based on Byron's artwork... threw in a
>>>>>> >> >> >> > couple
>>>>>> >> >> >> > of
>>>>>> >> >> >> > web
>>>>>> >> >> >> > banners as well... download (including sources) here:
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> > http://www.mediafire.com/?gii7ghtym1y
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> Those images look awesome! Good you attach them and add them
>>>>>> >> >> >> to
>>>>>> >> >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam - thanks!*
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > Done! :)
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> *
>>>>>> >> >> >>     Jono
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> --
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>>>>>> >> >> >> Ubuntu Community Manager
>>>>>> >> >> >> www.ubuntu.com / www.jonobacon.org
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>>>>>> >> >> >>
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