Help promoting Ubuntu Global Jam

[Rubén Romero y Cordero]

In the SU (SpreadUbuntu) project I have tried to push for all artwork to be:

1. Either solely licensed under CC-BY-SA
2. Or double licensed with any license and CC-BY-SA as well

This is mostly because I understand CC-BY-SA to be the most useful
license for the purpose of marketing material distribution as well as
allowing changes to the material at the same time.

This might be off-topic for the loco-contact list, but I, personally,
would like more discussion on this issue regarding licensing of
material in the SU marketing repository site.

Please feel free to start a thread or follow up earlier discussion
within the list of the SU project:

https://launchpad.net/spreadubuntu

Thanks in advance!

Best regards,

Rubén Romero
https://launchpad.net/~huayra

SpreadUbuntu Enthusiast
Ubuntu Norge LoCo team contact

2009/9/21, Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren.b.c at gmail.com>:
> 2009/9/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.telsen at gmail.com>:
>> 2009/9/21, Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren.b.c at gmail.com>:
>>> 2009/9/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.telsen at gmail.com>:
>>>> 2009/9/20 Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren.b.c at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The attribution information is included in the source files.
>>>>>
>>>>> Upon closer inspection, I see that now.
>>>>> However, to make the use of these buttons more easy, maybe it should
>>>>> be more explicit at the wiki page - but that is a minor issue.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you're right...my mistake :)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If you have limited space, please don't use this graphics. It's as
>>>>> > simple as
>>>>> > that... ok... I'm the original author of the artwork, but if I
>>>>> > weren't
>>>>> > I
>>>>> > would always think the same way:
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't get me wrong here. I brought up the issue because the licensed
>>>>> work is being miss used. I don't want to throw any specific links out
>>>>> there, but go surfing planet ubuntu, and you will find people using
>>>>> these graphics, but not attributing you as the original author. That
>>>>> to me is a clear violation of the license, and I wanted to shine some
>>>>> light on the issue - and possibly figure out if I had misunderstood
>>>>> the license at some point.
>>>>
>>>> I understand the license this way:
>>>>
>>>> If you're using the graphics for promoting the event, it's ok to not
>>>> attribute the author. It's the UGJ we're promoting and there's no need
>>>> to
>>>> link to the authors site.
>>>>
>>>> But, if you're distributing the artwork or making derivated use of it,
>>>> then
>>>> you must attribute.
>>>
>>> Can someone please confirm this? If you use these graphics to promote
>>> the event, you don't have to live up to the license requirement of
>>> attribution? Can there be made this kind of exceptions from the CC
>>> license?
>>
>> From the CC website:
>>
>> "If the work itself contains any copyright notices placed there by the
>> copyright holder, you must leave those notices in tact, or reproduce
>> them in a way that is reasonable to the medium in which you are
>> re-publishing the work."
>>
>> The work itself (the .png graphic) doesn't contain any copyright
>> notice, so IMHO you're not violating the license.
>>
>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FFAQ#How_do_I_properly_attribute_a_Creative_Commons_licensed_work.3F
>>
>
> Great! Thanks! :)
>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Søren
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If we as a community can't respect the license imposed by people
>>>>> inside our own community on artwork, how can we the expect others
>>>>> respect the license of the software, that seems to be so central to
>>>>> the whole Free Software movement?
>>>>
>>>> I totally agree with you on this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > It doesn't matter if it's code, artwork, literature or music; the
>>>>> > author
>>>>> > must always be acknowleged... just because they've made the software,
>>>>> > book,
>>>>> > web banner or song available to the public for free, does'nt mean
>>>>> > they
>>>>> > don't
>>>>> > deserve to be acknowledged for their hard work.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If I follow your logic correctly, we should be removing all the
>>>>> > copyright
>>>>> > notices from the software we use, because it takes more disk space
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > can
>>>>> > become unhandy.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my other mail I specifically tried to argued that those two can't
>>>>> be compared. A few lines of text on one piece of paper take up a much
>>>>> bigger fraction of the face of the paper, than a text document on a
>>>>> harddisk.
>>>>
>>>> Usually, the copyright notice take up a tiny fraction of the brochure,
>>>> poster, cd label,or whatever. I'm sure that you can make some space for
>>>> it.
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > I don't want to be harsh, but if you're not going to respect the
>>>>> > license, do
>>>>> > your own artwork and publish it as PD or CC0.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you miss understand me. I _do_ want to respect the license
>>>>> chosen by you (and other publishers). That is the whole reason why I
>>>>> bring up this subject.
>>>>>
>>>>> However I think more people would be able to use the graphics if
>>>>> another license was chosen. But of course the choice of license is
>>>>> solely for the author!
>>>>
>>>> The reason I choose CC-BY-SA was that it was the most common license on
>>>> the
>>>> SU site. But I'm willing to change it if you feel that the current
>>>> license
>>>> prevents people from using the artwork.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Søren
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Cheers,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The loco mailing list may not be the right forum for it, but maybe
>>>>> >> there needs to be a general discussion of what license to use for
>>>>> >> marketing material? Or it has already been had, and I have missed
>>>>> >> it?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Cheers
>>>>> >> Søren
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Best,
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Greg
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > [0] http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Cheers
>>>>> >> >> Søren
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> 2009/8/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.telsen at gmail.com>:
>>>>> >> >> > 2009/8/21 Jono Bacon <jono at ubuntu.com>
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> On 08/21/2009 12:10 PM, Leandro Gómez wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> >     Corrales to weave his magic? ;-)
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > Yes indeed! Would anyone like to do these? Adolfo, could you
>>>>> >> >> >> > ask
>>>>> >> >> >> > Byron
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > Made some badges based on Byron's artwork... threw in a
>>>>> >> >> >> > couple
>>>>> >> >> >> > of
>>>>> >> >> >> > web
>>>>> >> >> >> > banners as well... download (including sources) here:
>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >> > http://www.mediafire.com/?gii7ghtym1y
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> Those images look awesome! Good you attach them and add them
>>>>> >> >> >> to
>>>>> >> >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam - thanks!*
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > Done! :)
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> *
>>>>> >> >> >>     Jono
>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> >> --
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>>>>> >> >> >> Ubuntu Community Manager
>>>>> >> >> >> www.ubuntu.com / www.jonobacon.org
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>>>>> >> >> >>
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