Help promoting Ubuntu Global Jam

Mon Sep 21 22:00:29 BST 2009

2009/9/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.telsen at gmail.com>:
> 2009/9/21, Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren.b.c at gmail.com>:
>> 2009/9/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.telsen at gmail.com>:
>>> 2009/9/20 Søren Bredlund Caspersen <soeren.b.c at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > The attribution information is included in the source files.
>>>>
>>>> Upon closer inspection, I see that now.
>>>> However, to make the use of these buttons more easy, maybe it should
>>>> be more explicit at the wiki page - but that is a minor issue.
>>>
>>> Yes, you're right...my mistake :)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > If you have limited space, please don't use this graphics. It's as
>>>> > simple as
>>>> > that... ok... I'm the original author of the artwork, but if I weren't
>>>> > I
>>>> > would always think the same way:
>>>>
>>>> Don't get me wrong here. I brought up the issue because the licensed
>>>> work is being miss used. I don't want to throw any specific links out
>>>> there, but go surfing planet ubuntu, and you will find people using
>>>> these graphics, but not attributing you as the original author. That
>>>> to me is a clear violation of the license, and I wanted to shine some
>>>> light on the issue - and possibly figure out if I had misunderstood
>>>> the license at some point.
>>>
>>> I understand the license this way:
>>>
>>> If you're using the graphics for promoting the event, it's ok to not
>>> attribute the author. It's the UGJ we're promoting and there's no need to
>>> link to the authors site.
>>>
>>> But, if you're distributing the artwork or making derivated use of it,
>>> then
>>> you must attribute.
>>
>> Can someone please confirm this? If you use these graphics to promote
>> the event, you don't have to live up to the license requirement of
>> attribution? Can there be made this kind of exceptions from the CC
>> license?
>
> From the CC website:
>
> "If the work itself contains any copyright notices placed there by the
> copyright holder, you must leave those notices in tact, or reproduce
> them in a way that is reasonable to the medium in which you are
> re-publishing the work."
>
> The work itself (the .png graphic) doesn't contain any copyright
> notice, so IMHO you're not violating the license.
>
> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FFAQ#How_do_I_properly_attribute_a_Creative_Commons_licensed_work.3F
>

Great! Thanks! :)

>>
>> Cheers
>> Søren
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If we as a community can't respect the license imposed by people
>>>> inside our own community on artwork, how can we the expect others
>>>> respect the license of the software, that seems to be so central to
>>>> the whole Free Software movement?
>>>
>>> I totally agree with you on this.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> > It doesn't matter if it's code, artwork, literature or music; the
>>>> > author
>>>> > must always be acknowleged... just because they've made the software,
>>>> > book,
>>>> > web banner or song available to the public for free, does'nt mean they
>>>> > don't
>>>> > deserve to be acknowledged for their hard work.
>>>> >
>>>> > If I follow your logic correctly, we should be removing all the
>>>> > copyright
>>>> > notices from the software we use, because it takes more disk space and
>>>> > can
>>>> > become unhandy.
>>>>
>>>> In my other mail I specifically tried to argued that those two can't
>>>> be compared. A few lines of text on one piece of paper take up a much
>>>> bigger fraction of the face of the paper, than a text document on a
>>>> harddisk.
>>>
>>> Usually, the copyright notice take up a tiny fraction of the brochure,
>>> poster, cd label,or whatever. I'm sure that you can make some space for
>>> it.
>>> :)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> > I don't want to be harsh, but if you're not going to respect the
>>>> > license, do
>>>> > your own artwork and publish it as PD or CC0.
>>>>
>>>> I think you miss understand me. I _do_ want to respect the license
>>>> chosen by you (and other publishers). That is the whole reason why I
>>>> bring up this subject.
>>>>
>>>> However I think more people would be able to use the graphics if
>>>> another license was chosen. But of course the choice of license is
>>>> solely for the author!
>>>
>>> The reason I choose CC-BY-SA was that it was the most common license on
>>> the
>>> SU site. But I'm willing to change it if you feel that the current license
>>> prevents people from using the artwork.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Søren
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers,
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The loco mailing list may not be the right forum for it, but maybe
>>>> >> there needs to be a general discussion of what license to use for
>>>> >> marketing material? Or it has already been had, and I have missed it?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Cheers
>>>> >> Søren
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Best,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Greg
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > [0] http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Cheers
>>>> >> >> Søren
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> 2009/8/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.telsen at gmail.com>:
>>>> >> >> > 2009/8/21 Jono Bacon <jono at ubuntu.com>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> On 08/21/2009 12:10 PM, Leandro Gómez wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >     Corrales to weave his magic? ;-)
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Yes indeed! Would anyone like to do these? Adolfo, could you
>>>> >> >> >> > ask
>>>> >> >> >> > Byron
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Made some badges based on Byron's artwork... threw in a couple
>>>> >> >> >> > of
>>>> >> >> >> > web
>>>> >> >> >> > banners as well... download (including sources) here:
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > http://www.mediafire.com/?gii7ghtym1y
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Those images look awesome! Good you attach them and add them to
>>>> >> >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam - thanks!*
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Done! :)
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> *
>>>> >> >> >>     Jono
>>>> >> >> >>
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