LoCo tools, development

[Matthew East]

Hi,

I'll reorder the quoting a bit.

> 2008/5/25 Jad madi <jad at syntux.net>:
>> Maybe we do not need to develop a new tool or anything at least before
>> using the current tools that we have starting from this mailing list
>> ending with the wikis and discussion forum, what we need is to
>> encourage sharing experience and ideas rather than a new tool unless
>> you convince me with a tool that would increase the means of
>> communication between the teams.

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 3:14 AM, Martin Owens <doctormo at gmail.com> wrote:
> You can not plan with communication, communication is in it's self a
> tool. now what your saying is that the wiki, forums and mailing lists
> are good enough for communication; yet this isn't good enough for
> planning and organisation, the wiki here is particularly bad because
> it's so unstructured that you find yourself spending most of your time
> fixing the problems that others have put in. As easy as a wiki is to
> set up I don't think we should be using them for everything.
>
> I'll work with others to make the tools, it's up to you and your team
> if you want to use them. As it always is. I just won't be help back by
> a belief that what we have is good enough, because it isn't.

I have to say I don't think that is a satisfactory response to an
honest query, which I share myself.

I'm not a big fan of setting up new websites when existing community
resources exist (wiki, this mailing list, Fridge, UWN, etc). The
advantage of the existing community tools, is that all the teams in
the community use them, not just local teams, so there is better
inter-team communication. On the other hand a new website gives
everyone an extra resource that they need to follow *in addition* to
the existing ones, which is burdensome.

While I understand what you are saying about the deficiencies of the
wiki, the Ubuntu community currently uses the wiki for its collective
organisation, and departing from that for any team is a serious step.
Obviously, it's possible that you have something in mind that the
existing tools can't address, but if you are talking about setting up
a website for local teams to use, I think you have to at least explain
in detail what your ideas are, and why the existing resources aren't
good enough.

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Matthew East
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