wa-pomeroy: LoCo teams becoming to political in nature? (comes from LoCo Team Council)

[Chris Rohde]

As far as I can recall, the current city teams are already approved, but
I thought we were trying to stick to state being the lowest level, with
those states subsequently delegating out cities as far as inner-loco
organization goes?

Or I could be entirely off track

bordy



Efrain Juvenal Valles Pulgar wrote:
> My Reply between the lines
> 
> On Sep 26, 2007  at  3:10 PM,
> Pomeroy Lab <admin at mindblowingidea.com> Wrote:
> 
>  I only see one problem with the LoCo Locomotive. There is too much room for
> politics. I like the idea of several LoCo teams all over the world and one
> site pointing to each of them. The thing is even if we don't like everything
> they are all doing and saying we don't have to try to control them.
> 
> 
> The Council tends to keep our hearts in the same plase. It is not supposed
> to control how a team goes about helping the ubuntu proyect as a whole. The
> idea Jono originally brought up, which I support, is to have a council, a
> group that can handle very detailed coplexities that involve the LoCo team
> proyect. I am a Jono Generation Ubuntu user and his sometimes salomonic
> decisions have been pretty on target. (Hats off to Mr Bacon for clearing the
> way for spanish LoCo's  to meet eye to eye), but I do believe a Council is a
> great way to have a better insight on the different issues that arise in
> different scenarios in different places around the world.  Several other
> Councils have been set up and I do believe it has been the key to successin
> the improvement of  the communication in IRC team and ubuntuforum team. just
> my humble opinion.
> 
>  Just having a general list of locations of LoCo computer labs is a good
> idea and advertising this list.
> 
> Fantastic Idea, Good Ethics. Free education.
> 
> I know there is politics involved in WA State because no one will even add
> my LoCo team to the list.
> 
> What's your loCo team again? wa-pomeroy ??  a branch of the
> WashingtonTeam<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WashingtonTeam>
> all the resources you have set up do not have any direct promotion of
> ubuntu. so what exactly makes you a LoCo team. you could very well start
> one. there are many city-based LoCos. but your current set up of services is
> not very ubuntu-oriented. please read the
> LoCoTeamHowto.<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto>
> 
> and I can't remember anyone adding my team for me in the Team List... you
> add it yourself (proir to checking if a team exists... ) you add yourself as
> a new team.
> 
> 
> 
>  I understand a set of rules that work such as the Safe Guide To Scouting
> for the Boy Scouts. This is a plain and simple set of rules that makes it
> impossible to get in trouble if you follow them and would work great with
> the LoCo teams if you just took the parts about camping out unless you
> wanted to allow Linux teams to go on camp outs as part of club activities.
> The thing is there should be some suggested guidelines but unless the Ubuntu
> LoCo federation is directly responsible for the actions of each LoCo team I
> would not worry to much about controlling them.
> 
> You are not controlled by the LoCo team council yet. cuz it hasn't been
> approved yet... there is no such thing as a LoCo federation (yet). The only
> thing you should abide by is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct. and if you are
> bringing in other elements into the equation. (like lug participation in
> events and interaction with third parties), You still have to follow the
> code of conduct. plain and simple.
> 
> 
> I would worry much more about advertising the whole thing. To tell you the
> truth a simple advertising campaign on TV or Radio in the US would be a very
> good idea. This way you could charge a monthly fee of $10.00 to be listed on
> the LoCo site as a location and this money would go towards adds for the
> site. I don't see any problem here. Please let the LoCo team know what you
> think about this?
> 
> Teams are welcome to work their way how they see fit. In two years, I
> haven't seen ads on Ubuntu team sites. mainly because people find ads
> Anoying. Canonical provides loCo teams with basic resources web site,
> mailing list. so the need to advertise to pay for hosting is not that
> popular.  to receive donations is not forbidden as long as there is a clear
> objective as to what will be done with the money.
> 
>  In WA State and Idaho it seems like pulling teath to get anyone to help me
> promote my LoCo.
> 
> To be honest with you... Your resources do not prove you are not running a
> loCo team, there is hardly any promotion of ubuntu in any of the resources
> you set up. I would gladly help you set up an Ubuntu Community in your city.
> but first you should consider joining the existing team and giving them a
> well-deserved hand.
> 
> A very usefull read... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto
> 
> Cheers..
> 
> Efrain Valles
> ubuntu-ve co-contact
> http://launchpad.net/~effie-jayx
> 
> 

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