<div dir="auto">The change isn't about babysitting, as Valerie pointed out, it's about exposing as little of an attack surface to hackers as possible. Despite what some will tell you, linux is not impervious to software vulnerabilities. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 10, 2020, 7:28 AM Bill Walsh <<a href="mailto:Bill@kctu.com">Bill@kctu.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On 10/9/20 10:20 PM, Valorie Zimmerman
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<div><font face="FreeSans">Why is Kubuntu turning into
Windows? <br>
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<div>Unsure what this question has to do with your main
question, really. </div>
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<div><font face="FreeSans"> What dev decided that
simple minded users cannot be trusted with their
operating system and has to be babysat. <br>
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<div>That was not the reasoning at all. Devels wrestled with
how to allow this safely but could not find a way. However,
if you need to make an operation that requires sudo powers,
a popup gives you a way to provide your password. </div>
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<div>It's a win-win -- you get to do what you need to do, and
in a completely safe way. </div>
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<blockquote type="cite">Executing Dolphin with
sudo is not possible due to unfixable security
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I understand those vulnerabilities but it is my
choice to do so. I don't need some nanny looking
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<div>Again, the comparison to Windows does not help your
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<div>PS: running *any* gui application with sudo is a terrible
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<font face="FreeSans">There are times, such as moving a Thunderbird
profile from one computer to a new one so that you have everything
on both, that you have to use Dolphin, or some other bit, as
administrator. That is the only way you can copy the files to a
thumb drive. I know the risks I'm taking when I do something. One
of the hallmarks of a Linux operating system has been the ability
to "have it my way" as Burger King says.<br>
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The main reason I left Windows about twenty years ago was because
of the constant babysitting. Try to open a program and the popup
that asks if I really want to run that program. Well, if I didn't
want to run that program I wouldn't have clicked on it. <br>
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I managed to break my Linux installation many times but I leaned
from each experience. Simple fix, delete partition, new partition,
install. I haven't broken one in about eighteen years now.<br>
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If I'm here, running Linux, I must have some idea what I'm doing.
If I'm as stupid as they think I am I would still be running
Windows. I don't need a baby sitter. IF I do something stupid and
break it I will take care of it. It's not their fault. It's mine.
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It has come to my attention that another Linux distro has "Run
****** as Administrator" in the menu. Popup box opens and tells
you not to do anything stupid and it runs.<br>
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I have been running (K)Ubuntu now for about eighteen years and
have loved it. I've recommended it to many Windows users who were
dissatisfied with Windows for whatever reason. But if it is going
to devolve into a "Windows Clone" I suppose I will have to look
around for another version of Linux. I don't want to. I would much
rather stay with Kubuntu. I have been very happy with it for a
very long time.<br>
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P. S. <br>
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I am NOT a geek/guru/or whatever. I am a simple computer user. I
do NOT do command line. If I wanted to use command line I would
still be running DOS. I use a Graphical User Interface because
that is how I want to use my computer. Click - Runs Click- Goes
Away Click - Goes to that directory Click - opens that file
Not sit here typing gobbledegook on the keyboard. However, there
are times I must go into a terminal and use something to attain my
goal, such as running Dolphin/Kate as administrator.<br>
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As I said before, I am aware of the dangers. I use it in Admin
mode to do what I need and get the H E Double Hockey Sticks out.
Only use it when I absolutely have to. I am not ignorant or
stupid.<br>
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