On Sep 15, 2012 1:22 AM, "O. Sinclair" <<a href="mailto:o.sinclair@gmail.com">o.sinclair@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > > On 14/09/2012 08:15, Michael Hirsch wrote: >> >> So I finally upgraded kubuntu this week. I went from 11.04 to 11.10 to >> 12.04. In the middle I only booted long enough to start the upgrade--I >> didn't test to see if everything worked. >> >> It seems to have gone fairly smoothly, except for kmail. kmail wouldn't >> start, and would tell me to run the upgrader interactively, but when I >> ran it it would say it had already run. I >> deleted ~/.kde4/share/config/kmail-migratorrc and it ran, supposedly >> successfully, but then kmail would not run. >> >> Following some internet sleuthing, I deleted ~/.kde/share/apps/akonadi >> and ~/.config/akonadi and my .kmail2rc and it finally ran, and even >> figured out some of my email accounts. But all my mail is missing! >> >> There is a File->Import Messages menu item that looks promising. Maybe >> I can import all my emails and then I will be able to read them. There >> is a likely sounding "Import KMail Maildirs and Folder Structure" item >> in a drop-down. Of course, it warns me not to import ~/Mail, which is >> where my mail is, but I think it is just confused. Why should it worry >> about infinitely looping on importing mail when kmail now stores my mail >> in a mysql database? >> >> There is a funny warning that I don't really understand: "Since it is >> possible to recreate the folder structure, the folders will be stored >> under: "KMail-Import" in your local folder." Should that be "Since it >> is impossible..."? I still don't understand, but oh well. I'll try it. >> >> So I click the button below "Please select the folder to import to" and >> choose to import to a subfolder in my local email. >> >> The next part is a disaster. I have hundreds of email folders, and the >> dialog makes me start over for each one. So I have to pick where to >> import to, then navigate to a folder and select it. Ultimately I find >> that I can multi-select all my mbox folders at once and do a big import. >> They get imported into folders named MBOX-oldname. Why they developer >> thinks I care that they used to be in mbox format I can't imagine. Now >> I have to go rename them all, but at least they loaded quickly. >> >> Now I still have lots of slightly newer maildir folders to import. It >> takes me a long time to realize that if never actually lets me select a >> maildir folder and say okay. If I select a folder the dialog enters >> that folder showing the sub-folders. Finally, I just give up and I >> click "okay" when I've entered the folder in question with nothing >> inside selected. Wow, it actually starts importing all my folders. >> >> Moronically, it is putting every folder into a KMail-import folder, but >> I guess I was warned. I still don't understand why it would do that. >> >> So, I guess the upshot is that it worked, mostly. I still get the >> heebie-jeebies at the thought of keeping all my mail in mysql instead of >> easily to read mbox and maildir folders, and I have all my folders named >> stupidly, but it looks like I haven't lost my mail. That's good. >> >> This has probably been the worst upgrade experience I've had in my >> almost 20 years of running Linux. I can't believe that anyone thought >> this was a good idea, or that it was ready to use. Since I got past the >> kmail crashing instantly it has only crashed twice--but I've only been >> running it a couple of hours. >> >> Let's hope that no more big changes are coming. >> >> Michael >> >> > Well, did you read the - by now old - kubuntu advise to not upgrade but do a "move/backup your email, set up new kmail and then import your stuff" advise? > Yes, I did see that advise, but I trends to like to sees things for myself. Maybe not the smartest approach, sometimes. > I tried "migrate" at least twice and then gave up. Moved my mails away, created fresh KMail and imported mails. Worked way better though I also had to move all folders from "KMail-imported" to where I wanted them in "Local Folders". > > And yes, though 4.9 is the best KMail2 this far it still unstable if you ask me. Accidentally moved a folder with subfolders to another folder (hate clickpads, give me touchpad with clickbuttons any day) and moving it back caused some sort of database total hickup. I eventually sorted it, though it took me literally hours and CPU nearly burnt out. > > But this is why my wife use Thunderbird and not KMail - she would just have sat there and "where the h..l did all the mails disappear to"? I think your wife I'd right. I'm going to switch to thunderbird as soon as I figure out how to import my maildir folders. --Michael