Is 12.04 the worst? Hardly! I had a few problems installing on my 6 year old Gateway laptop, and one older desktop's video card just wasn't supported, but I got past this with a little help from my kind friends here and on other forums. I know none of my antiques would run the current Microsoft offering at all. All my computers are 4 to 6 years old and it's sort of a hobby to keep them going with the latest Kubuntu. Until my duct tape and bailing wire runs out, anyway. Once installed there have been no serious issues and I'm generally pleased. There are few changes and no surprises from 11.10. Just same old, same old. Mind you I don't use pop mail or Kmail. All of my mail is IMAP gmail, which I set up to poll my hotmail and aim accounts. It is accessible everywhere, which is great, and they store almost a GB of my archived mail, free. They even do backups, which I neglect because, frankly, nothing else I have is of much importance to me, except my photos, which Eye-Fi stores for a modest fee. Yahoo mail is just for accessing groups and forums like this one. It's the 5 year support that I'm most enthused about. I need something that works, and 12.04 fills the bill. Thank you Kubuntu developers! Good job, well done Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet <div class="gmail_quote">On May 15, 2012 11:10 AM, "girardhenri" <<a href="mailto:girardhenri@free.fr">girardhenri@free.fr</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Le 15/05/2012 12:36, Bruce Marshall a écrit : <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 07:57:26 AM girardhenri wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I do use kubuntu only for system settings (qtcurve theme with fakeosx gnome3, as I found gnome3 themes not very nice, mainly too dark), but 12.04 was better on first beta than final in my opinion, because I often have messages that utuntu 12.04 has crashed or an application has crashed... It sounds buggy ! synaptic doesn't work any more after a while (i guess after updating)... Well as a final it doesn't seems stable as usually it is with other versions... I already reinstalled twice and always the same. I use firefox and thunderbird as mail client because it does manage my mail boxes perfectly. regards, Henri </blockquote> Synaptic seems to work fine for me and in fact got me out of the 'hole' I was in trying to install 12.04. When I was using aptitude to do installing, it would sometimes want to delete about 500 packages in order to install one. Twice it uninstalled my kernel and I had to do a rescue. I've given up on aptitude and now use synaptic for everything. </blockquote> I found out the problem : In synaptic icon command they wrote synaptic-pkgexec, so I deleted it and i wrote gksudo synaptic and everything works now ! I have problem with sudo too I don't know why sometimes it's deleted by ubuntu ? I must chmod 755 to get it back... I didn't have this problems with former versions. Aptitude is very dangerous ! Sometimes it took me away kde... and gnome3 ? I don't know why. Pity because it is an excellent tool. But I fear it's not good to use apt and aptitude ? -- kubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div>