Steven, Getting back to your OP, you said 'permission denied' I think. Maybe I missed something here but I think I'd be starting with: sudo fdisk -l on the system with the 80 gig Maxtor. You will get a list of the partition types on the drive. Then post the output of that to the list. BTW the option to fdisk is 'l' for lollipop not the figure 'one'. In my typeface it's hard to see the difference ymmv. Bob -- In a world without walls who needs Windows (or Gates)? Try Linux instead!