<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>You might try upgrading a live CD of 8.10 to kde 4.1.3 and testing kepas from there. I found 4.1.3 to be an incremental improvement to 4.1.2 and haven't yet found any regressions.<br><br>If you do decide to upgrade to 8.10, you probably want to rename ~/.kde and ~/.kde4 so your new ~/.kde directory (for v. 4.1.x) isn't confounded by old config settings.<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Art Alexion" <art.alexion@gmail.com><br>To: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com<br>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:29:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: Just when I was starting to be OK with KDE 4...<br><br>I was informed that the 8.04 KDE4 ppa was not going to be maintained much more. I use kpf in kde3 to publish a status list of what I have in the pipeline at our office. (I just keep the list in basket and export it to html periodically). kpf is being replaced in kde4 by kepas. If it works, kepas has all of the functionality of kpf and a lot more. I have been testing kde4's progress with the hardy ppa, and it is much improved, even over the October release of Intrepid. But I can't test kepas in 8.04. Why, because the version in the ppa repo is incompatible with 4.1.2, and wants to downgrade kde to 4.0.5. I filed a bug. The response was "Confirmed", but the maintainer told me they were no longer going to maintain the ppa with updates, and I should switch to 8.10. Now I have stopped complaining about the default being kde4 before it is ready, and I am just testing kde4 in hardy until it feels ready to upgrade. Now, not only is kubuntu 8.10 released with an immature kde, but I can no longer test the "beta" kde4 in 8.04. I simply don't know what's going on. The devs seem to have thumbed their noses at regular users with their 8.10 decisions, and now they tell me I can't do what everyone defending the 8.10 decision tells me to do — stick with 8.04 and test until ready. What a PR debacle for Open Source and Linux. <br>-- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users </div></body></html>