<div dir="ltr">Hello May I add my feelings? 8.04 (and beta 8.10) may be improvements for some but not for me. My audio and my webcam are no longer recognised in my Medion MD 96640 laptop but do work in my desktop - although somewhat older) and do not work in the new kernel. This is not only the case with Ubuntu but also with Linux Mint and Debian 5.0 Lenny. Wireless is impossible, even with the Windows drivers (via ndiswrapper). An external usb (Belkin) adapter works now and then. Upgrading is not always an improvement. I did submit the bug (is it a bug?) but:no solution up till now. Yes, solution: stick with 7.10 wherin everything works. By the way: the same is true for Kubuntu and KDE <div class="gmail_quote">2008/10/7 Myriam Schweingruber <schweingruber@pharma-traduction.ch> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Billie, On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:52 AM, Billie Walsh <<a href="mailto:bilwalsh@swbell.net">bilwalsh@swbell.net</a>> wrote: > Decided that I might give 8.10 a try and see just what it's all about. > Loaded it on a separate hard drive. Looks nice and works my poor little > eMachine quite well. No major hiccups so far. > > THEN, there's this big ugly box on my desktop that says "Desktop". How > can you get rid of that thing? I clicked on the closing button and the > main desktop went away for a second and when it came back it was still > there and something stupid was covering my task bar. You just had a plasma crash. Try again to remove the "Folder view" widget, it might work the second time. I managed to disable it without problems, but plasma is sometimes a bit bitchy :) (remember this is beta! ) And that "something stupid" are the widgets which appear on the top left by default. Just drag them away, this only happens when plasma crashes. One small suggestion: if you use a panel on top, avoid using it full lenght, so you have a small space to drag widgets easily. KDE 4 is currently configured to work with a panel at the bottom. You will also have to reconfigure the mouse moves for the active desktop if you want to use it, as "pushing top left" is used for a 3D functionality. ... > Just about everywhere you click it wants to add even more junk. But you don't have to :) Some people want their desktop clustered (remember Win screenshots with "everything" on the desktop?). Left click does nothing, right click of course opens a context window where you "can" choose things. Just don't do right clicks :) As for now you can configure almost everything in KDE <a href="http://4.1.2." target="_blank">4.1.2.</a> It works like a charm on my old machine (Pentium IV with 1 Gb RAM). (except for Kontact, but that is another story...) Greets Myriam -- Protect your freedom, join the Fellowship of FSFE! <a href="http://www.fsfe.org" target="_blank">http://www.fsfe.org</a> Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) -- kubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div> -- Tel:+32 (0)58 239804 +32 (0)497 538736 Nog een mooie dag toegewenst. Guido (dompie) Dom Registered Linux (Ubuntu) User # 462578 </div>