<div class="gmail_quote">2008/5/8 Neil Winchurst <<a href="mailto:neil@holsdev.vispa.com">neil@holsdev.vispa.com</a>>: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> After eighteen months with Edgy I did a fresh install of Gutsy last week. It went well though I had a lot to do once I had restarted the computer. I set numlock to turn on at boot. I changed the mouse to double click for icons. I had to add a user since I did not get the choice to do so during the install. I had to set up my printer. It was turned on during the install but was not found. I had to play with kmix to get sound to work. I made konqueror the default file manager instead of dolphin. I commented out the reference to the install CD which was in sources.list. The following programs were not included with the install so I added them afterwards :- firefox, thunderbird, opera, gnucash, kedit, kdf, mysql, gimp, Sun java, flash. OK, so some of those were personal choices, but I was very surpised that FF, the Gimp and Thunderbird were missing from the install. And the point of all this? Well, after my experience with Edgy and, in all, six years using Linux all the above was simple. But for someone new to Linux I think they would need some hand-holding to get started. I still feel that more needs to be done to get newcomers to feel confident with Linux. What do other people on the list think? Neil Winchurst -- kubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div> still. that is easier thatn dealing with windows, windows doesnt come with an office suite for an instance. i agree with the web browser problem, but it is now fixed in hardy. i find installing printers a pice of cake, since i dont need any drivers, wheareas on windows, it will not install the printer during the windows installation or after it unless you insert the driver CD. kmix might be an issue here, a lot of people are complaining that sound is not working without kmix editing. gimp is a bit of a big program to include, but so is the case in windows, you get lousy paint, not photoshop! the fact is that you still need to be a bit familiar with computers to install a system, whatever the OS is, at least you can get all what is missing in kubuntu while you are sitting on your chair, no need to buy CDs or anything. i started using linux with kubuntu feisty last summer. i'm already familiar now with much of the concepts, and dont really find it hard. it took me 3 years to become an advanced user on windows. i wont say that im an advanced linux user, but im learning it fast. P.S. how do you set numlock on startup? -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net.