Okay, NO I didn't not know that or didn't fully understand it. So, I have the machine I set up in Ubuntu how do I go about switching between Gnome and KDE? I guess I could research it a little. Actually what I was trying to do is get a little more experience with Linux, Ubuntu and trying to understand what grub is doing . . . I guess I am not doing a very good job of it. Anyway thank you Derek. <div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> If all you want to do is switch between KDE & Gnome, I hope you know that you can simply install Ubuntu, then kubuntu-desktop on top of it, or Kubuntu and ubuntu-desktop, and then select either KDE or Gnome from GDM/KDM. -- derek </blockquote></div>