i don't look at it that way, but i know where you're coming from joe! you have to keep in mind that linux DESKTOP is trying to make it's way into the mainstream "CORP" America and compete with M$. Linux is already operating in many company servers, so getting a piece of the desktop market would be a big, no...HUGE step. <div>On 2/8/07, Joe Hart <<a href="mailto:j.hart@orange.nl">j.hart@orange.nl</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> ac wrote: > Lokeey wrote: >> Hey all, I just read about Ubuntu and Linspire teaming up. Based on >> anyone expertise or experience, would someone be able to comment on this >> and say if this is a good/bad thing??? >> >> ================ >> Canonical Ltd., the sponsor of Ubuntu, and Linspire Inc. the developer >> of Linspire and Freespire, on February 8 announced a technology >> <<a href="http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2092672,00.asp#"> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2092672,00.asp#</a>> partnership >> to integrate with each other's Linux distributions. >> >> Linspire/Freespire will be based on Ubuntu, rather than Debian, and >> Ubuntu will integrate with Linspire's CNR package installer/updater. >> >> Starting with Ubuntu's 7.04 release in April, Ubuntu users will gain >> access to Linspire's newly opened CNR (Click and Run) e-commerce and >> software delivery system. For Linspire, that will mean moving from >> Debian to Ubuntu as the base for its Linspire and Freespire desktop >> operating systems >> <<a href="http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2092672,00.asp#"> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2092672,00.asp#</a>>. > > The more distros which like to base themselves on ubuntu then the > happier I become. > > Also, in the harsh world, many folks like to get proprietary binaries > the easy way, and the deal gets value from that too. Well, that to me is the straw that broke the camel's back. I'm all for the advancement of Linux and of it gaining popularity, but I was already leary of the way they were heading...trying to remove the command line from Linux is just as bad as Windows 95 taking away DOS. Perhaps I have just grown out of the hand-holding of the community. I don't want things easier because that makes them transparent. Perhaps Debian itself is a better alternative. At least that community is the one that is doing most of the work, and THEY know when things are stable. The only downside is that they support too many different architectures that hold them back. There are others... Let Ubuntu/Mepis/Linspire/Mint be for the new converts. The real hackers won't run them anyway. You want good information, you need to turn to Debian and since Dapper, compatibility with Debian has been waning. Dapper is good, Edgy is OK, but I am afraid that Feisty will never make it on my computer. Do I hear Sid calling? Perhaps Gentoo is knocking on the door... The beauty of Linux is to be able to choose. I choose control over my computer. The beauty of Linux lies in the fact that there is a distribution for everyone. I wish all of you the best of luck. Joe -- kubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com"> kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div> -- "I am what I am because of who we all are"