From rikmills at kubuntu.org Sun May 2 16:45:30 2021 From: rikmills at kubuntu.org (Rik Mills) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 17:45:30 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver reaches end of Kubuntu support Message-ID: <35ba2b3b-bc82-394e-376d-34245ce5d97f@kubuntu.org> As the recently released Kubuntu 21.04 with beautiful Plasma 5.21 makes its way into the world, inevitably other things come to their end. Kubuntu 18.04 LTS was released in April 2018, and reached ‘End of Life’ for its 3 years of flavour support on 1st May 2021. All Kubuntu users should therefore switch to a newer supported release. Download a supported release[1] or upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 LTS[2]. The Kubuntu team would thank users of all releases, especially for the amazing additional community support on IRC, forums, mailing lists, and elsewhere. Rik Mills Kubuntu Council & Kubuntu Devel [1] https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ [2] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FocalUpgrades/Kubuntu From accessys at smart.net Sun May 2 17:03:23 2021 From: accessys at smart.net (Bob) Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 13:03:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver reaches end of Kubuntu support In-Reply-To: <35ba2b3b-bc82-394e-376d-34245ce5d97f@kubuntu.org> References: <35ba2b3b-bc82-394e-376d-34245ce5d97f@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: maybe I'm a day late but the last batch of updates failed to install.??? thanks for all the work, had planned to go 20.04LTS in a short while but was still using the Bionic Bob On Sun, 2 May 2021, Rik Mills wrote: > As the recently released Kubuntu 21.04 with beautiful Plasma 5.21 makes > its way into the world, inevitably other things come to their end. > > Kubuntu 18.04 LTS was released in April 2018, and reached ‘End of Life’ > for its 3 years of flavour support on 1st May 2021. All Kubuntu users > should therefore switch to a newer supported release. > > Download a supported release[1] or upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 LTS[2]. > > The Kubuntu team would thank users of all releases, especially for the > amazing additional community support on IRC, forums, mailing lists, and > elsewhere. > > Rik Mills > Kubuntu Council & Kubuntu Devel > > [1] https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ > [2] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FocalUpgrades/Kubuntu > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From chrisluck.bvhg at gmail.com Thu May 27 01:04:27 2021 From: chrisluck.bvhg at gmail.com (Chris Luck) Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 02:04:27 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver reaches end of Kubuntu support In-Reply-To: <35ba2b3b-bc82-394e-376d-34245ce5d97f@kubuntu.org> References: <35ba2b3b-bc82-394e-376d-34245ce5d97f@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: On 02/05/2021 17:45, Rik Mills wrote: > Kubuntu 18.04 LTS was released in April 2018, and reached ‘End of Life’ > for its 3 years of flavour support on 1st May 2021. All Kubuntu users > should therefore switch to a newer supported release. I'm a little puzzled as to how I should interpret that statement. When I first read it (a day or two after it was posted) I opened Muon to see if there were any updates but the connection to the repository seemed to be dead. However a few days later I got an update (I forget the details). Since then I must have had 6 or more updates including LibreOffice 7.1.3.2, Firefox 88.0.1 and assorted others. So, Rik, can you tell me what does 'End of Life' mean here? Chris Luck p.s. I'm not intending to upgrade any time soon. From accessys at smart.net Thu May 27 03:18:51 2021 From: accessys at smart.net (Bob) Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 23:18:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver reaches end of Kubuntu support In-Reply-To: References: <35ba2b3b-bc82-394e-376d-34245ce5d97f@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: I upgraded to 20.04LTS about a week ago and have had a number of problems with some programs. most notably "Alpine" and "Vuescan"(Not Kubuntu supported) I figured waiting a year would allow all the bugs to get worked out but?? and yes I am currently dual booting into my old 18.04 and getting update notices, but they won't load due to a "dpk"error ??? otherwise it runs normally. these guys work dern hard to get this working but always seems to be issues. I am not knocking all the hard work for us users. thanks Bob On Thu, 27 May 2021, Chris Luck wrote: > On 02/05/2021 17:45, Rik Mills wrote: > >> Kubuntu 18.04 LTS was released in April 2018, and reached ‘End of Life’ >> for its 3 years of flavour support on 1st May 2021. All Kubuntu users >> should therefore switch to a newer supported release. > > I'm a little puzzled as to how I should interpret that statement. > When I first read it (a day or two after it was posted) I opened Muon to see > if there were any updates but the connection to the repository seemed to be > dead. However a few days later I got an update (I forget the details). Since > then I must have had 6 or more updates including LibreOffice 7.1.3.2, Firefox > 88.0.1 and assorted others. > > So, Rik, can you tell me what does 'End of Life' mean here? > > Chris Luck > p.s. I'm not intending to upgrade any time soon. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From chrisluck.bvhg at gmail.com Thu May 27 10:04:45 2021 From: chrisluck.bvhg at gmail.com (Chris Luck) Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 11:04:45 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver reaches end of Kubuntu support In-Reply-To: References: <35ba2b3b-bc82-394e-376d-34245ce5d97f@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: On 27/05/2021 04:18, Bob wrote: > > I upgraded to 20.04LTS about a week ago and have had a number of problems > with some programs. most notably "Alpine" and "Vuescan"(Not Kubuntu > supported) I figured waiting a year would allow all the bugs to get > worked out but?? > and yes I am currently dual booting into my old 18.04 and getting update > notices, but they won't load due to a "dpk"error ??? otherwise it runs > normally. > > these guys work dern hard to get this working but always seems to be > issues. I am not knocking all the hard work for us users. > > thanks > Bob Well, after reading your message I found that another update was available - ============ Start-Date: 2021-05-27 09:55:48 Commandline: packagekit role='update-packages' Requested-By: chris (1000) Upgrade: liblz4-1:amd64 (0.0~r131-2ubuntu3, 0.0~r131-2ubuntu3.1), liblz4-1:i386 (0.0~r131-2ubuntu3, 0.0~r131-2ubuntu3.1) End-Date: 2021-05-27 09:55:52 ============ I tried 20.04LTS more than 6 months after it was first made available, hoping that inevitable glitches in the first offering may have been resolved, but I did not have a happy experience and reverted to 18.04. I'm constrained by resources and don't have much spare hardware to do endless testing with distros. I wouldn't care to be involved in distro maintenance - far too many tweeks and ingenious new options to contend with. I'll stay happy with what I've got for the moment. Chris From clay at claydoh.com Thu May 27 13:23:20 2021 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 09:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver reaches end of Kubuntu support In-Reply-To: References: <35ba2b3b-bc82-394e-376d-34245ce5d97f@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: <2108303388.729904.1622121800775@email.ionos.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chrisluck.bvhg at gmail.com Thu May 27 15:08:30 2021 From: chrisluck.bvhg at gmail.com (Chris Luck) Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 16:08:30 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver reaches end of Kubuntu support In-Reply-To: <2108303388.729904.1622121800775@email.ionos.com> References: <35ba2b3b-bc82-394e-376d-34245ce5d97f@kubuntu.org> <2108303388.729904.1622121800775@email.ionos.com> Message-ID: On 27/05/2021 14:23, Clay Weber wrote: > > > The Kubuntu part, ie Plasma etc, will no longer see security updates, > and is not supported by Kubuntu any longer. However, the core OS > bits still are supported by Ubunut, since Ubuntu LTS have 5 year shelf > lives. As Ubuntu keeps FF up to date, this will stay current as well > iirc > Any PPAs added will still be up to date as their individuals > maintainers see fit (Libreoffice is still at version 6 in the > official repos) Thanks for that info Clay, it clarifies the issue. As my system is chugging along reasonably well I'm happy to leave it that way for a couple more years (hardware permitting!). I am not able to offer any insights into Bob's problem though. Chris Luck From leroy.tennison at verizon.net Fri May 28 03:15:04 2021 From: leroy.tennison at verizon.net (Leroy Tennison) Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 03:15:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver reaches end of Kubuntu support In-Reply-To: <2108303388.729904.1622121800775@email.ionos.com> References: <35ba2b3b-bc82-394e-376d-34245ce5d97f@kubuntu.org> <2108303388.729904.1622121800775@email.ionos.com> Message-ID: <31605701.1061160.1622171704324@mail.yahoo.com> Although I'm planning upgrading it's not high on my priority list right now, just to get some perspective, how frequent and severe from a security perspective are KDE bugs in general.  i realize the past isn't necessarily an indicator of the future but some general idea would be appreciated.  And my thanks to all who make Kubuntu possible. -----Original Message----- From: Clay Weber To: Kubuntu user technical support Sent: Thu, May 27, 2021 8:23 am Subject: Re: Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver reaches end of Kubuntu support On 05/26/2021 9:04 PM Chris Luck wrote: On 02/05/2021 17:45, Rik Mills wrote: Kubuntu 18.04 LTS was released in April 2018, and reached ‘End of Life’ for its 3 years of flavour support on 1st May 2021. All Kubuntu users should therefore switch to a newer supported release. I'm a little puzzled as to how I should interpret that statement. When I first read it (a day or two after it was posted) I opened Muon to see if there were any updates but the connection to the repository seemed to be dead. However a few days later I got an update (I forget the details). Since then I must have had 6 or more updates including LibreOffice 7.1.3.2, Firefox 88.0.1 and assorted others. So, Rik, can you tell me what does 'End of Life' mean here? Chris Luck p.s. I'm not intending to upgrade any time soon. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users The Kubuntu part, ie Plasma etc, will no longer see security updates, and is not supported by Kubuntu any longer. However, the core OS bits still are supported by Ubunut, since Ubuntu LTS have 5 year shelf lives. As Ubuntu keeps FF up to date, this will stay current as well iirc Any PPAs added will still be up to date as their individuals maintainers see fit (Libreoffice is still at version 6 in the official repos) Clay Weber -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From masteranthonystevens at gmail.com Fri May 28 13:41:48 2021 From: masteranthonystevens at gmail.com (Anthony Stevens) Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 09:41:48 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver reaches end of Kubuntu support In-Reply-To: References: <35ba2b3b-bc82-394e-376d-34245ce5d97f@kubuntu.org> <2108303388.729904.1622121800775@email.ionos.com> Message-ID: I'm one of those folks that likes to check out new features and since I have both a laptop and a desktop system, I update my laptop every time there is a new release. With that said, I found 18.04 to be stable while 20.04 experienced several minor issues. 20.10 was slightly better, and I really like 21.04. IMNSHO 21.04 is the first really stable version of Kubuntu since 18.04. As usual, all systems are a little bit different and your mileage may vary. On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 11:09 AM Chris Luck wrote: > On 27/05/2021 14:23, Clay Weber wrote: > > > > > > > The Kubuntu part, ie Plasma etc, will no longer see security updates, > > and is not supported by Kubuntu any longer. However, the core OS > > bits still are supported by Ubunut, since Ubuntu LTS have 5 year shelf > > lives. As Ubuntu keeps FF up to date, this will stay current as well > > iirc > Any PPAs added will still be up to date as their individuals > > maintainers see fit (Libreoffice is still at version 6 in the > > official repos) > > > Thanks for that info Clay, it clarifies the issue. 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URL: From accessys at smart.net Fri May 28 16:51:53 2021 From: accessys at smart.net (Bob) Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 12:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver reaches end of Kubuntu support In-Reply-To: References: <35ba2b3b-bc82-394e-376d-34245ce5d97f@kubuntu.org> <2108303388.729904.1622121800775@email.ionos.com> Message-ID: but 21.04 is not an LTS version. my 18.04 version has 39 packages to update, but won't update them says a dpk error but I can't find it? Bob On Fri, 28 May 2021, Anthony Stevens wrote: > I'm one of those folks that likes to check out new features and since I have both a > laptop and a desktop system, I update my laptop every time there is a new release. > > With that said, I found 18.04 to be stable while 20.04 experienced several minor > issues. 20.10 was slightly better, and I really like 21.04. > > IMNSHO 21.04 is the first really stable version of Kubuntu since 18.04. > As usual, all systems are a little bit different and your mileage may vary. > > > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 11:09 AM Chris Luck wrote: > On 27/05/2021 14:23, Clay Weber wrote: > > > >  > > > The Kubuntu part, ie Plasma etc, will no longer see security updates, > > and is not supported by Kubuntu any longer.  However, the core OS > > bits still are supported by Ubunut, since Ubuntu LTS have 5 year shelf > > lives. As Ubuntu keeps FF up to date, this will stay current as well > > iirc > Any PPAs added will still be up to date as their individuals > > maintainers see fit (Libreoffice is still at version 6 in the > > official repos) > > > Thanks for that info Clay, it clarifies the issue.  As my system is > chugging along reasonably well I'm happy to leave it that way for a > couple more years (hardware permitting!). > > I am not able to offer any insights into Bob's problem though. > > Chris Luck > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > Anthony Stevens > "The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but > those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn." - Alvin Toffler > http://postorbitallibrary.com/ > https://ello.co/oldendaze > https://ello.co/ellobridges > https://ecfield.deviantart.com > > -------------- next part -------------- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From tshah.dental at gmail.com Fri May 28 17:02:44 2021 From: tshah.dental at gmail.com (Tej Shah) Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 13:02:44 -0400 Subject: Using Kubuntu 21.04 with X11 + 200% scaling; anybody else got issues with Chromium's scaling after this week's update? Message-ID: So I use Kubuntu 21.04 with X11 and I set the monitor scaling to be 200% (or 2x) for my 5120x2880 screen. After a recent update to Chromium, it is now running at 4x the normal size rather than just 2x. Screenshot (https://imgur.com/KGv8FR7.png) Anybody else got the same problem this week? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From masteranthonystevens at gmail.com Fri May 28 20:35:39 2021 From: masteranthonystevens at gmail.com (Anthony Stevens) Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 16:35:39 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver reaches end of Kubuntu support In-Reply-To: References: <35ba2b3b-bc82-394e-376d-34245ce5d97f@kubuntu.org> <2108303388.729904.1622121800775@email.ionos.com> Message-ID: I'm aware of the non LTS version, Bob. I just like trying the new ones as they are released. After all, someone has to be on the bleeding edge, right? [wink and a grin] On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 12:53 PM Bob wrote: > > but 21.04 is not an LTS version. > > my 18.04 version has 39 packages to update, but won't update them says a > dpk error but I can't find it? > > Bob > > On Fri, 28 May 2021, Anthony Stevens wrote: > > > I'm one of those folks that likes to check out new features and since I > have both a > > laptop and a desktop system, I update my laptop every time there is a > new release. > > > > With that said, I found 18.04 to be stable while 20.04 experienced > several minor > > issues. 20.10 was slightly better, and I really like 21.04. > > > > IMNSHO 21.04 is the first really stable version of Kubuntu since 18.04. > > As usual, all systems are a little bit different and your mileage may > vary. > > > https://ello.co/oldendaze https://ello.co/ellobridges https://ecfield.deviantart.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chrisluck.bvhg at gmail.com Fri May 28 21:10:00 2021 From: chrisluck.bvhg at gmail.com (Chris Luck) Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 22:10:00 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver reaches end of Kubuntu support In-Reply-To: References: <35ba2b3b-bc82-394e-376d-34245ce5d97f@kubuntu.org> <2108303388.729904.1622121800775@email.ionos.com> Message-ID: On 28/05/2021 17:51, Bob wrote: > > but 21.04 is not an LTS version. > > my 18.04 version has 39 packages to update, but won't update them says a > dpk error but I can't find it? > > Bob Googling "update won't load due to a dpkg error" gets numerous hits, here's a couple of pages to peruse for possible causes/cures to get you started: https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-update-error/ Chris Luck