SUDO

Sheemon Lists sheemon.lists at gmail.com
Mon Oct 12 02:53:54 UTC 2020


And who nominated you a speaker or authority to speak for others?
You voiced your opinion.  I voiced mine.  The coordinator can close this
thread for comments if he/she/it chooses to.
But you are right.  I am shutting up.



On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 3:20 PM Cody Smith <cody.smith at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> Please, the problem has already been solved for the guy in the newsletter
> thread, let's just leave this be now. I'm sure everyone subscribed to the
> mailing list (myself included) would appreciate it.
>
> --c_smith
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 7:10 AM Sheemon Lists <sheemon.lists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Who said anything about immunity?
>> But what you say sounds so big and important, but empty it still is.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 12:34 PM Cody Smith <cody.smith at ubuntu.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The change isn't about babysitting, as Valerie pointed out, it's about
>>> exposing as little of an attack surface to hackers as possible. Despite
>>> what some will tell you, linux is not impervious to software
>>> vulnerabilities.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020, 7:28 AM Bill Walsh <Bill at kctu.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/9/20 10:20 PM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 8:15 AM Yahoo <bilwalsh at swbell.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why is Kubuntu turning into Windows?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unsure what this question has to do with your main question, really.
>>>>
>>>> What dev decided that simple minded users cannot be trusted with their
>>>>> operating system and has to be babysat.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That was not the reasoning at all. Devels wrestled with how to allow
>>>> this safely but could not find a way. However, if you need to make an
>>>> operation that requires sudo powers, a popup gives you a way to provide
>>>> your password.
>>>>
>>>> It's a win-win -- you get to do what you need to do, and in a
>>>> completely safe way.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Executing Dolphin with sudo is not possible due to unfixable security
>>>>> vulnerabilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand those vulnerabilities but it is my choice to do so. I
>>>>> don't need some nanny looking over my shoulder, a la Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Again, the comparison to Windows does not help your point.
>>>>
>>>> Valorie
>>>>
>>>> PS: running *any* gui application with sudo is a terrible idea. Ever.
>>>>
>>>> There are times, such as moving a Thunderbird profile from one computer
>>>> to a new one so that you have everything on both, that you have to use
>>>> Dolphin, or some other bit, as administrator. That is the only way you can
>>>> copy the files to a thumb drive. I know the risks I'm taking when I do
>>>> something. One of the hallmarks of a Linux operating system has been the
>>>> ability to "have it my way" as Burger King says.
>>>>
>>>> The main reason I left Windows about twenty years ago was because of
>>>> the constant babysitting. Try to open a program and the popup that asks if
>>>> I really want to run that program. Well, if I didn't want to run that
>>>> program I wouldn't have clicked on it.
>>>>
>>>> I managed to break my Linux installation many times but I leaned from
>>>> each experience. Simple fix, delete partition, new partition, install. I
>>>> haven't broken one in about eighteen years now.
>>>>
>>>> If I'm here, running Linux, I must have some idea what I'm doing. If
>>>> I'm as stupid as they think I am I would still be running Windows. I don't
>>>> need a baby sitter. IF I do something stupid and break it I will take care
>>>> of it. It's not their fault. It's mine.
>>>>
>>>> It has come to my attention that another Linux distro has "Run ******
>>>> as Administrator" in the menu. Popup box opens and tells you not to do
>>>> anything stupid and it runs.
>>>>
>>>> I have been running (K)Ubuntu now for about eighteen years and have
>>>> loved it. I've recommended it to many Windows users who were dissatisfied
>>>> with Windows for whatever reason. But if it is going to devolve into a
>>>> "Windows Clone" I suppose I will have to look around for another version of
>>>> Linux. I don't want to. I would much rather stay with Kubuntu. I have been
>>>> very happy with it for a very long time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> P. S.
>>>>
>>>> I am NOT a geek/guru/or whatever. I am a simple computer user. I do NOT
>>>> do command line. If I wanted to use command line I would still be running
>>>> DOS. I use a Graphical User Interface because that is how I want to use my
>>>> computer. Click - Runs  Click- Goes Away  Click - Goes to that directory
>>>> Click - opens that file   Not sit here typing gobbledegook on the keyboard.
>>>> However, there are times I must go into a terminal and use something to
>>>> attain my goal, such as running Dolphin/Kate as administrator.
>>>>
>>>> As I said before, I am aware of the dangers. I use it in Admin mode to
>>>> do what I need and get the H  E  Double Hockey Sticks out. Only use it when
>>>> I absolutely have to. I am not ignorant or stupid.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.
>>>> Please use in that order.
>>>>
>>>> The soap box represents exercising one's right to freedom of speech to influence politics to defend liberty.
>>>> The ballot box represents exercising one's right to vote to elect a government which defends liberty.
>>>> The jury box represents using jury nullification to refuse to convict someone being prosecuted for breaking an unjust law that decreases liberty.
>>>> The ammo box represents exercising one's right to keep and bear arms to oppose, in armed conflict, a government that decreases liberty.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> kubuntu-users mailing list
>>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>>>>
>>> --
>>> kubuntu-users mailing list
>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>>>
>> --
>> kubuntu-users mailing list
>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>>
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/attachments/20201011/8c260ba8/attachment-0001.html>


More information about the kubuntu-users mailing list