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Are the KDE developers the ones that moved all /bin and /sbin to /usr/bin
and /usr/sbin and filled the holes with symlinks?
And what is so secure with sudo?  The most offensive breach of security I
have seen in a while.
Please stop me someone, before I explode.
And the nonsense called snap.  Oh, please stop me...


On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 10:28 AM Bill Walsh <Bill at> wrote:

> On 10/9/20 10:20 PM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 8:15 AM Yahoo <bilwalsh at> wrote:
>> Why is Kubuntu turning into Windows?
> Unsure what this question has to do with your main question, really.
> What dev decided that simple minded users cannot be trusted with their
>> operating system and has to be babysat.
> That was not the reasoning at all. Devels wrestled with how to allow this
> safely but could not find a way. However, if you need to make an operation
> that requires sudo powers, a popup gives you a way to provide your
> password.
> It's a win-win -- you get to do what you need to do, and in a completely
> safe way.
>> Executing Dolphin with sudo is not possible due to unfixable security
>> vulnerabilities.
>> I understand those vulnerabilities but it is my choice to do so. I don't
>> need some nanny looking over my shoulder, a la Windows.
> Again, the comparison to Windows does not help your point.
> Valorie
> PS: running *any* gui application with sudo is a terrible idea. Ever.
> There are times, such as moving a Thunderbird profile from one computer to
> a new one so that you have everything on both, that you have to use
> Dolphin, or some other bit, as administrator. That is the only way you can
> copy the files to a thumb drive. I know the risks I'm taking when I do
> something. One of the hallmarks of a Linux operating system has been the
> ability to "have it my way" as Burger King says.
> The main reason I left Windows about twenty years ago was because of the
> constant babysitting. Try to open a program and the popup that asks if I
> really want to run that program. Well, if I didn't want to run that program
> I wouldn't have clicked on it.
> I managed to break my Linux installation many times but I leaned from each
> experience. Simple fix, delete partition, new partition, install. I haven't
> broken one in about eighteen years now.
> If I'm here, running Linux, I must have some idea what I'm doing. If I'm
> as stupid as they think I am I would still be running Windows. I don't need
> a baby sitter. IF I do something stupid and break it I will take care of
> it. It's not their fault. It's mine.
> It has come to my attention that another Linux distro has "Run ****** as
> Administrator" in the menu. Popup box opens and tells you not to do
> anything stupid and it runs.
> I have been running (K)Ubuntu now for about eighteen years and have loved
> it. I've recommended it to many Windows users who were dissatisfied with
> Windows for whatever reason. But if it is going to devolve into a "Windows
> Clone" I suppose I will have to look around for another version of Linux. I
> don't want to. I would much rather stay with Kubuntu. I have been very
> happy with it for a very long time.
> P. S.
> I am NOT a geek/guru/or whatever. I am a simple computer user. I do NOT do
> command line. If I wanted to use command line I would still be running DOS.
> I use a Graphical User Interface because that is how I want to use my
> computer. Click - Runs  Click- Goes Away  Click - Goes to that directory
> Click - opens that file   Not sit here typing gobbledegook on the keyboard.
> However, there are times I must go into a terminal and use something to
> attain my goal, such as running Dolphin/Kate as administrator.
> As I said before, I am aware of the dangers. I use it in Admin mode to do
> what I need and get the H  E  Double Hockey Sticks out. Only use it when I
> absolutely have to. I am not ignorant or stupid.
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> Please use in that order.
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> The ballot box represents exercising one's right to vote to elect a government which defends liberty.
> The jury box represents using jury nullification to refuse to convict someone being prosecuted for breaking an unjust law that decreases liberty.
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