From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 08:11:14 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 01:11:14 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu Bionic Beta 2 candidate images spinning soon Message-ID: Hi folks, just a bit of advance notice for everyone who would like to help us test the heck out of this, to make Kubuntu 18.04 the best ever LTS! To get a jump on this, create a login on the quatracker if you don't have one: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/384/builds Download a daily image to save some time, and then zsync when the Beta 2 candidate drops (you will be able to see it on the qatracker. More about how to do that quickly and efficiently: http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2018/01/seeding-new-isos-easy-zsync-way.html http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2018/03/more-zsync-magic-for-lts-updates.html If you already have a daily or beta 1 iso on your HD, that will work just as well. If you think you are interested in formally becoming part of the release team, join us here: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-release Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 23:35:11 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 16:35:11 -0700 Subject: amd64 Beta 2 candidate testing going well; i386 testing -- none? Message-ID: I didn't write to the list yesterday about the candidate ISOs dropping, because of computer problems here. I lost a SSD (I think) but created a Bionic upgrade on another disk. So that was a success, but it takes time to provision a new install, as you know. Anyway, i386 users, now or never! I mean literally if we don't get testing on this LTS on i386 hardware, we will NOT be offering it from here forward. This is a community-produced product, and if those who want it are not willing to test it, we simply cannot provide untested stuff. Please login to the qatracker at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/388/builds/169616/testcases, click the little disk symbol to download or zsync an image, and test test test! File bug reports for bugs you find using `ubuntu-bug ubuiquity` or whatever the packagename is (ubiquity is the installer) and add those BR numbers to your report. Please, today or at latest tomorrow. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 08:51:33 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 01:51:33 -0700 Subject: amd64 Beta 2 candidate testing going well; i386 testing -- none? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Franklin, I got home late from my meeting tonight and was dreading having to do them all on a not-i386 machine. Thanks so much for doing that! I very much appreciate it. All the best, Valorie On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Franklin Weng wrote: > I'll do it today as much as possible. > > (just woke up) > > Franklin > > -- > Sent from my phone > > Valorie Zimmerman 於 2018年4月5日 週四 07:35 寫道： >> >> I didn't write to the list yesterday about the candidate ISOs >> dropping, because of computer problems here. I lost a SSD (I think) >> but created a Bionic upgrade on another disk. So that was a success, >> but it takes time to provision a new install, as you know. >> >> Anyway, i386 users, now or never! I mean literally if we don't get >> testing on this LTS on i386 hardware, we will NOT be offering it from >> here forward. This is a community-produced product, and if those who >> want it are not willing to test it, we simply cannot provide untested >> stuff. >> >> Please login to the qatracker at >> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/388/builds/169616/testcases, >> click the little disk symbol to download or zsync an image, and test >> test test! >> >> File bug reports for bugs you find using `ubuntu-bug ubuiquity` or >> whatever the packagename is (ubiquity is the installer) and add those >> BR numbers to your report. >> >> Please, today or at latest tomorrow. >> >> Valorie >> >> -- >> http://about.me/valoriez >> >> -- >> kubuntu-devel mailing list >> kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > > > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > -- http://about.me/valoriez From bionicmac.attack at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 09:05:13 2018 From: bionicmac.attack at gmail.com (Donald Tanner) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 04:05:13 -0500 Subject: amd64 Beta 2 candidate testing going well; i386 testing -- none? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: i386 testing in progress. I put together an i386 machine just for the purpose of testing Kubuntu i386 beta 2 release candidates. It is up and running as of now. This will allow me to have this old machine up and useful. I will keep it for testing Kubuntu i386. I am currently running the testcase "Live Session" booted to a usb thumb drive running Kubuntu i386. After the Live Session I will move on to Installation to hard drive tests. Donald On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com> wrote: > I didn't write to the list yesterday about the candidate ISOs > dropping, because of computer problems here. I lost a SSD (I think) > but created a Bionic upgrade on another disk. So that was a success, > but it takes time to provision a new install, as you know. > > Anyway, i386 users, now or never! I mean literally if we don't get > testing on this LTS on i386 hardware, we will NOT be offering it from > here forward. 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URL: From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 00:46:23 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 17:46:23 -0700 Subject: amd64 Beta 2 candidate testing going well; i386 testing -- none? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Excellent! It was great to see more testers pitch in this round, given that we had a shorter time to test than usual. Thanks to all! Valorie On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 2:05 AM, Donald Tanner wrote: > i386 testing in progress. > > I put together an i386 machine just for the purpose of testing Kubuntu i386 > beta 2 release > candidates. It is up and running as of now. This will allow me to have this > old machine up and useful. I will keep it for testing Kubuntu i386. > > I am currently running the testcase "Live Session" booted to a usb thumb > drive running Kubuntu i386. > > After the Live Session I will move on to Installation to hard drive tests. > > Donald > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Valorie Zimmerman > wrote: >> >> I didn't write to the list yesterday about the candidate ISOs >> dropping, because of computer problems here. I lost a SSD (I think) >> but created a Bionic upgrade on another disk. So that was a success, >> but it takes time to provision a new install, as you know. >> >> Anyway, i386 users, now or never! I mean literally if we don't get >> testing on this LTS on i386 hardware, we will NOT be offering it from >> here forward. This is a community-produced product, and if those who >> want it are not willing to test it, we simply cannot provide untested >> stuff. >> >> Please login to the qatracker at >> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/388/builds/169616/testcases, >> click the little disk symbol to download or zsync an image, and test >> test test! >> >> File bug reports for bugs you find using `ubuntu-bug ubuiquity` or >> whatever the packagename is (ubiquity is the installer) and add those >> BR numbers to your report. >> >> Please, today or at latest tomorrow. >> >> Valorie >> >> -- >> http://about.me/valoriez >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- http://about.me/valoriez From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Apr 9 14:36:42 2018 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:36:42 +0200 Subject: Libreoffice 6 irritating view Message-ID: <1d31ad54-1400-c0ac-f9f3-d8d749bd6671@gmail.com> Since some upgrade Libreoffice insist on showing documents 2 pages side by side. I don't like it one bit. Does anyone know how to get back to 1 page portrait mode? kind regards, Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Apr 10 04:56:54 2018 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 06:56:54 +0200 Subject: Libreoffice 6 irritating view In-Reply-To: <1d31ad54-1400-c0ac-f9f3-d8d749bd6671@gmail.com> References: <1d31ad54-1400-c0ac-f9f3-d8d749bd6671@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45d2b56f-666d-a367-f923-6fcd1c26db26@gmail.com> On 04/09/18 16:36, O. Sinclair wrote: > Since some upgrade Libreoffice insist on showing documents 2 pages side > by side. I don't like it one bit. Does anyone know how to get back to 1 > page portrait mode? > > kind regards, Sinclair > thanks to whose who helped. I have found the solution in the "bottom right corner". The setting does not stick but I can live with that. The replies did for some reason end up in my personal mail but I will forward them should someone else be as irriated as I was. Kind regards, Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Apr 10 04:57:42 2018 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 06:57:42 +0200 Subject: Fwd: Re: Libreoffice 6 irritating view In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <31fe0393-39a6-d28c-7dcb-3e579db1c7a2@gmail.com> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Libreoffice 6 irritating view Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 07:54:41 -0700 From: jim at cunning-sd.net To: O. Sinclair I don't know about LO 6, but the version I use has some small icons in the lower right corner of the window, one that looks like a single page and another that looks like a pair. Try them. /Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone/ ------ Original message------ *From: *O. Sinclair *Date: *Mon, Apr 9, 2018 07:38 *To: *Kubuntu Help and User Discussions; *Cc: * *Subject:*Libreoffice 6 irritating view Since some upgrade Libreoffice insist on showing documents 2 pages side by side. I don't like it one bit. Does anyone know how to get back to 1 page portrait mode? kind regards, Sinclair -- kubuntu-users mailing listkubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Apr 10 04:57:59 2018 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 06:57:59 +0200 Subject: Fwd: Re: Libreoffice 6 irritating view In-Reply-To: <1609696.6WO7d90x5X@p5915> References: <1609696.6WO7d90x5X@p5915> Message-ID: <04a51e63-04fa-8604-4ce0-447ce1459589@gmail.com> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Libreoffice 6 irritating view Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 17:45:28 +0200 From: Nils Kassube To: O. Sinclair On Mo, 9. 04.2018 you wrote: > Since some upgrade Libreoffice insist on showing documents 2 pages > side by side. I don't like it one bit. Does anyone know how to get > back to 1 page portrait mode? That should be "View" -> "Zoom" -> "Zoom…" -> for "View Layout" select "Single Page". Nils From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Apr 10 04:58:22 2018 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 06:58:22 +0200 Subject: Fwd: Re: Libreoffice 6 irritating view In-Reply-To: <069aab35-8e39-2445-478f-b6b76f71598a@cfl.rr.com> References: <069aab35-8e39-2445-478f-b6b76f71598a@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <5f7d26ba-45a6-56b0-f49b-fbefbcaefa91@gmail.com> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Libreoffice 6 irritating view Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 14:26:04 -0400 From: Charles T. Bell Reply-To: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com To: O. Sinclair At the bottom right-hand side you will see a number with % sign. Click on that and it will give you a small window. Find "Single Page" and select it. Then close the small window. Hope this help! Tom On 04/09/2018 10:36 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > Since some upgrade Libreoffice insist on showing documents 2 pages side > by side. I don't like it one bit. Does anyone know how to get back to 1 > page portrait mode? > > kind regards, Sinclair > -- "There are lies, damned lies and alternative facts!" -- me (with apologies to Mark Twain) From kassube at gmx.net Tue Apr 10 05:18:10 2018 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 07:18:10 +0200 Subject: Fwd: Re: Libreoffice 6 irritating view In-Reply-To: <04a51e63-04fa-8604-4ce0-447ce1459589@gmail.com> References: <1609696.6WO7d90x5X@p5915> <04a51e63-04fa-8604-4ce0-447ce1459589@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4471969.IG7Cjc6Cr0@p5915> O. Sinclair wrote: > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: Libreoffice 6 irritating view > Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 17:45:28 +0200 > From: Nils Kassube > To: O. Sinclair Sorry for the PM, actually I wanted to send it to the list. It looks like I'm not smart enough to select the right icon for "reply to list" and instead I used "reply to sender". Nils From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Apr 10 13:52:48 2018 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bmarsh) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 09:52:48 -0400 Subject: Libreoffice 6 irritating view In-Reply-To: <45d2b56f-666d-a367-f923-6fcd1c26db26@gmail.com> References: <1d31ad54-1400-c0ac-f9f3-d8d749bd6671@gmail.com> <45d2b56f-666d-a367-f923-6fcd1c26db26@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3936219532@bmarsh.com> I tried to duplicate your problem on Bionic, but didn’t see anything different. From: "O. Sinclair" Subject: Re: Libreoffice 6 irritating view Date: 4/10/18 12:58 AM To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions On 04/09/18 16:36, O. Sinclair wrote: > Since some upgrade Libreoffice insist on showing documents 2 pages side > by side. I don't like it one bit. Does anyone know how to get back to 1 > page portrait mode? > > kind regards, Sinclair > thanks to whose who helped. I have found the solution in the "bottom right corner". The setting does not stick but I can live with that. The replies did for some reason end up in my personal mail but I will forward them should someone else be as irriated as I was. Kind regards, Sinclair -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From appjoe.beta at gmail.com Tue Apr 10 14:15:01 2018 From: appjoe.beta at gmail.com (Apurv Jyotirmay) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:45:01 +0530 Subject: KDE Plasma is working fine on Manjaro, but not on Kubuntu 18.04 Beta2 Message-ID: Hi, I've been trying to move to KDE for a long time, but the only Plasma release for me that worked on Kubuntu was with Kubuntu 15.10. And after that, none of the releases are working on my hardware. So, what happens is, if I use Plasma and KWin (OpenGL 2, OpenGL 3, or Xrendr), I get this weird flickering when resizing application windows. It's easily observable if I open up a Dolphin window and start to resize it by the corner rapidly in every direction. At times, there will be a white patch covering the entire window for a few milliseconds (or so). I thought it has something to do with the underlying Xorg, but I tried Manjaro with Plasma 5.12.3 on my hardware, and it was working perfectly. Also, in Kubuntu, I get this really crazy menu flickering (sometimes) when I open a menu (File, Edit,...) and move my cursor over the items, it will start flickering with black colors, and closing and re-opening menus fixes that. Any idea how can I produce a more technically detailed information for the same on Kubuntu? 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Does anyone know how to get back to 1 >> > page portrait mode? >> > >> > kind regards, Sinclair >> > >> thanks to whose who helped. I have found the solution in the "bottom >> right corner". The setting does not stick but I can live with that. The >> replies did for some reason end up in my personal mail but I will >> forward them should someone else be as irriated as I was. >> >> Kind regards, Sinclair >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > Thanks to the advice of quite a few the problem has been solved. For some reason my config went to the "2page" in the bottor right corner. After changing to "1page" and restarting a few times it now works as I want it. all the best, Sinclair From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Wed Apr 11 21:44:04 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 14:44:04 -0700 Subject: Congratulations on a great Beta 2 milestone! Next up: BANNER Message-ID: Hi folks, We had a lot of help testing Beta 2 candidates, thank you so much! It was Hell week for me and the extra testing -- especially the i386 testing helped sooo much. Our next testing push will be the Release Candidate scheduled for 19 April, so put that on your testing calendar. Of course, testing of the dailies is always useful as well. And if you hang out in the #kubuntu-devel channel our devels very often have smaller testing they would like help with as well. However, now is the time to prepare for release, and the big item we are missing is a Bionic banner for the website, and our various social media channels. The official wallpaper is here: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/ubuntu-18.04-default-wallpaper-2.jpg I assume one can get the official image from this tar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-themes/+bug/1759601/+attachment/5093611/+files/bionic_beavers.tar Of course we cannot use that color, but our banner should incorporate the beaver in some way along with our plasma wallpaper or colors. That file is available here: https://www.opendesktop.org/p/1187374/ You can see our present banner on the website: http://kubuntu.org/ . It needs to use that same font face for the Kubuntu part, as that is official. We had to decline to use quite a few lovely submissions last time because the font was changed. The Plasma wallpaper doesn't need to be blurred as it is in the 17.10 version, but that is an option. We'll use this on Facebook and Twitter as well as the website. Please put BANNER in your subject line so that we find all of them! Thanks, artists! Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Fri Apr 13 03:08:43 2018 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 20:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: xrandr question Message-ID: Running Kubuntu 16.04 here. I'm told that if you want xrandr to do a particular resolution on boot up, you have to put the command in a file named, ".xprofile". That's nice as far as it goes, but where do I put the file? Does it need any special treatment like: chmod a+rwx ~/.xprofile or whatever? Bill From ovidiu.b13 at gmail.com Fri Apr 13 20:05:04 2018 From: ovidiu.b13 at gmail.com (Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 23:05:04 +0300 Subject: Fwd: i need information please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: *Ovidiu - Florin BOGDAN* GeekAliens.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: john johnson Date: 2018-03-30 1:25 GMT+03:00 Subject: i need information please To: ovidiu-florin at kubuntu.org I have Ubuntu 17.04 and kde plasma 5.9.4 from wat kde info center says were do I find .pdf manuals and community support pages please for kubuntu I am used to redhat not new linuxes Linux has changed a lot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sun Apr 15 03:47:49 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:47:49 -0700 Subject: Bionic Release Candidate milestone approaching Message-ID: Hi folks, we had such a good Beta 2 testing, I'm hoping for testing awesomeness for the RC. The schedule says * April 19th: FinalFreeze,  ReleaseCandidate,  LanguagePackTranslationDeadline * April 26th: FinalRelease,  Ubuntu 18.04 We'll see the images (as usual) at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/384 Naturally, testing the daily ISOs is always welcome, as long as bug reports are reported as you progress. `ubuntu-bug packagename` is your friend. As usual we especially need i386 testing on i386 machines. So get ready! Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Sun Apr 15 18:03:59 2018 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Problems with screen management In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm seeing a very similar problem with Kubuntu 16.04 amd64. Let me go through the ordering, maybe there's a clue here. Whenever I upgrade to a new OS level, I usually wind up screwing something up, and having to re-install 3, or 4 times in order to fix the problem(s) in the unfamiliar new territory. Moving up to 16.04 from 12.04, I noted the following problem(s). Right after installing, eveything seemed to be working ok while doing some initial setup stuff. Then, after doing the usual update/ upgrade, weird stuff such as you describe started happening. The last time, the weird stuff didn't wait for the update/upgrade, but started happening immediately. In the Bash shell, and the editors as well, the cursor doesn't make it all the way to the right side of the screen. In the shell it mostly drops down to the next line down. In nano, it goes behind the, "$", character, or to the other side of it. In the shell, the command line should look something like: # abcdefg -12345X With the cursor at the, "X", point of the line. Instead, it looks something like: # abcdefg -12345 X If I cursor left, to fix a typo, it then looks something like this: # abcdefg -12 X345 Also, there are missing characters. These seem to be mostly on the end. For instance, two usernames are, "mml", and, "mmr". Doing a, "ls", of the /home dir, shows two usernames as being, "mm". I've noticed this elsewhere, too, but mainly here. The names haven't changed, they just aren't being displayed properly. I hope someone knows how to fix this. Bill On Sat, 14 Apr 2018, Bruce Marshall wrote: > I've been running Kubuntu/xfce on 3 Amd64 machines and have run > into serious problems with screen management in editors.  Moving > the cursor into the screen display will often cause the data on > that display to move around on its own or to become corrupted. > > I have seen this in the THE editor, as well as nano and vi.   It > makes the editors unusable because once data moves around, you > cannot treat the data as being correct. > > This is while running Kubuntu Beta 2 on an AMD64 machine.   Will > try to test it on an i386 machine as well. > > A very serious problem for me.  > > > From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Apr 15 19:14:41 2018 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bmarsh) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 15:14:41 -0400 Subject: Problems with screen management In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <744115511@bmarsh.com> Here is what I reported on the bug.. and it shows exactly what I am seeing: Public bug reported: Konsole screen is corrupted .. i.e. not showing true contents of a file. Observed in nano and the THE editors and possibly in vi. Given the file: test of screen problems in Bionic beta 2 03/09/18 xxxxxxxxx yyyyyyyyy zzzzzzzzz qqqqqqq 03/23/18 qqqqqqqqq rrrrrrrrr sssssssss ttttttt 03/29/18 aaaaaaaaa bbbbbbbbb ccccccccc ddddddd 04/06/18 04/13/18 ddddddddd eeeeeeeee fffffff the first screen shown in nano or THE will be: test of screen problems in Bionic beta 2 03/09/18 x y z q 03/23/18 q r s t 03/29/18 a b c d 04/06/18 04/13/18 d e f This occurs in Konsole under Kubuntu 18.04 beta 2 in xfce4 as well as Plasma. Description: Ubuntu Bionic Beaver (development branch) Release: 18.04 From: Bill Vance Subject: Re: Problems with screen management Date: 4/15/18 2:07 PM To: Kubuntu user technical support I'm seeing a very similar problem with Kubuntu 16.04 amd64. Let me go through the ordering, maybe there's a clue here. Whenever I upgrade to a new OS level, I usually wind up screwing something up, and having to re-install 3, or 4 times in order to fix the problem(s) in the unfamiliar new territory. Moving up to 16.04 from 12.04, I noted the following problem(s). Right after installing, eveything seemed to be working ok while doing some initial setup stuff. Then, after doing the usual update/ upgrade, weird stuff such as you describe started happening. The last time, the weird stuff didn't wait for the update/upgrade, but started happening immediately. In the Bash shell, and the editors as well, the cursor doesn't make it all the way to the right side of the screen. In the shell it mostly drops down to the next line down. In nano, it goes behind the, "$", character, or to the other side of it. In the shell, the command line should look something like: # abcdefg -12345X With the cursor at the, "X", point of the line. Instead, it looks something like: # abcdefg -12345 X If I cursor left, to fix a typo, it then looks something like this: # abcdefg -12 X345 Also, there are missing characters. These seem to be mostly on the end. For instance, two usernames are, "mml", and, "mmr". Doing a, "ls", of the /home dir, shows two usernames as being, "mm". I've noticed this elsewhere, too, but mainly here. The names haven't changed, they just aren't being displayed properly. I hope someone knows how to fix this. Bill On Sat, 14 Apr 2018, Bruce Marshall wrote: > I've been running Kubuntu/xfce on 3 Amd64 machines and have run > into serious problems with screen management in editors. Moving > the cursor into the screen display will often cause the data on > that display to move around on its own or to become corrupted. > > I have seen this in the THE editor, as well as nano and vi. It > makes the editors unusable because once data moves around, you > cannot treat the data as being correct. > > This is while running Kubuntu Beta 2 on an AMD64 machine. Will > try to test it on an i386 machine as well. > > A very serious problem for me. > > > -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Mon Apr 16 01:49:59 2018 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Problems with screen management In-Reply-To: <744115511@bmarsh.com> References: <744115511@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: I wish I could help, but that looks even more confusing than what I've got. Bill On Sun, 15 Apr 2018, Bmarsh wrote: > Here is what I reported on the bug..  and it shows exactly what I > am seeing: > > > > > Public bug reported:  > > Konsole screen is corrupted .. i.e. not showing true > contents of a  > file. Observed in nano and the THE editors and > possibly in vi.  > > Given the file:  > > test of screen problems in Bionic beta 2   > 03/09/18 xxxxxxxxx yyyyyyyyy zzzzzzzzz qqqqqqq  > 03/23/18 qqqqqqqqq rrrrrrrrr sssssssss ttttttt  > 03/29/18 aaaaaaaaa bbbbbbbbb ccccccccc ddddddd  > 04/06/18   > 04/13/18 ddddddddd eeeeeeeee fffffff  > > the first screen shown in nano or THE will be:  > > test of screen problems in Bionic beta 2   > 03/09/18 x y z q  > 03/23/18 q r s t  > 03/29/18 a b c d  > 04/06/18   > 04/13/18 d e f  > > > This occurs in Konsole under Kubuntu 18.04 beta 2 in > xfce4 as well as Plasma.  > > Description: Ubuntu Bionic Beaver (development > branch)  > Release: 18.04  > > >     > > > > > From: Bill Vance > Subject: Re: Problems with screen management > Date: 4/15/18 2:07 PM > To: Kubuntu user technical support > > > > > > I'm seeing a very similar problem with Kubuntu 16.04 > amd64. > > Let me go through the ordering, maybe there's a clue > here. > Whenever I upgrade to a new OS level, I usually wind > up > screwing something up, and having to re-install 3, or > 4 times > in order to fix the problem(s) in the unfamiliar new > territory. > > Moving up to 16.04 from 12.04, I noted the following > problem(s). > Right after installing, eveything seemed to be working > ok while > doing some initial setup stuff. Then, after doing the > usual update/ > upgrade, weird stuff such as you describe started > happening. The > last time, the weird stuff didn't wait for the > update/upgrade, but > started happening immediately. > > In the Bash shell, and the editors as well, the cursor > doesn't make > it all the way to the right side of the screen. In the > shell it > mostly drops down to the next line down. In nano, it > goes > behind the, "$", character, or to the other side of > it. > > In the shell, the command line should look something > like: > > # abcdefg -12345X > > With the cursor at the, "X", point of the line. > Instead, it looks > something like: > > # abcdefg -12345 X > > If I cursor left, to fix a typo, it then looks > something like this: > > # abcdefg -12 X345 > > Also, there are missing characters. These seem to be > mostly on > the end. For instance, two usernames are, "mml", and, > "mmr". > > Doing a, "ls", of the /home dir, shows two usernames > as being, > "mm". I've noticed this elsewhere, too, but mainly > here. The names > haven't changed, they just aren't being displayed > properly. > > I hope someone knows how to fix this. > > Bill > > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2018, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > > I've been running Kubuntu/xfce on 3 Amd64 machines > and have run > > into serious problems with screen management in > editors.  Moving > > the cursor into the screen display will often cause > the data on > > that display to move around on its own or to become > corrupted. > > > > I have seen this in the THE editor, as well as nano > and vi.   It > > makes the editors unusable because once data moves > around, you > > cannot treat the data as being correct. > > > > This is while running Kubuntu Beta 2 on an AMD64 > machine.   Will > > try to test it on an i386 machine as well. > > > > A very serious problem for me.  > > > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Wed Apr 18 04:11:12 2018 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Problems with screen management In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just noticed that the list software messed up the example I gave below by removing some space characters. I have inserted some underscores to make up for this, so it shows whats going on better, (even though it doesn't like to show the underscore character on my system). On Sun, 15 Apr 2018, Bill Vance wrote: > I'm seeing a very similar problem with Kubuntu 16.04 amd64. > > Let me go through the ordering, maybe there's a clue here. > Whenever I upgrade to a new OS level, I usually wind up > screwing something up, and having to re-install 3, or 4 times > in order to fix the problem(s) in the unfamiliar new territory. > > Moving up to 16.04 from 12.04, I noted the following problem(s). > Right after installing, eveything seemed to be working ok while > doing some initial setup stuff. Then, after doing the usual update/ > upgrade, weird stuff such as you describe started happening. The > last time, the weird stuff didn't wait for the update/upgrade, but > started happening immediately. > > In the Bash shell, and the editors as well, the cursor doesn't make > it all the way to the right side of the screen. In the shell it > mostly drops down to the next line down. In nano, it goes > behind the, "$", character, or to the other side of it. > > In the shell, the command line should look something like: > > # abcdefg -12345X > > With the cursor at the, "X", point of the line. Instead, it looks > something like: > > # abcdefg -12345______X > > If I cursor left, to fix a typo, it then looks something like this: > > # abcdefg -12______X345 > > Also, there are missing characters. These seem to be mostly on > the end. For instance, two usernames are, "mml", and, "mmr". > > Doing a, "ls", of the /home dir, shows two usernames as being, > "mm". I've noticed this elsewhere, too, but mainly here. The names > haven't changed, they just aren't being displayed properly. > > I hope someone knows how to fix this. > > Bill > > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2018, Bruce Marshall wrote: > >> I've been running Kubuntu/xfce on 3 Amd64 machines and have run >> into serious problems with screen management in editors.  Moving >> the cursor into the screen display will often cause the data on >> that display to move around on its own or to become corrupted. >> >> I have seen this in the THE editor, as well as nano and vi.   It >> makes the editors unusable because once data moves around, you >> cannot treat the data as being correct. >> >> This is while running Kubuntu Beta 2 on an AMD64 machine.   Will >> try to test it on an i386 machine as well. >> >> A very serious problem for me.  >> >> > From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sun Apr 22 00:28:04 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 17:28:04 -0700 Subject: Fwd: First set of Bionic (sort-of) RC images. In-Reply-To: <20180421232256.GZ3062@0c3.net> References: <20180421232256.GZ3062@0c3.net> Message-ID: Yay! We have our Release Candidate images ready to test. Please especially i386 hardware users, help us test! Please ask on the list if you are having problems 1. using the iso.qa site 2. filing bug reports (remember `ubuntu-bug packagename in the konsole or terminal) 3 if you don't know the packagename or what you are experiencing *is* a bug The sooner, the better! Thanks! Valorie ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Adam Conrad Date: Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 4:22 PM Subject: First set of Bionic (sort-of) RC images. To: ubuntu-release at lists.ubuntu.com Over the next couple of hours, builds for Bionic Final should be added to the tracker[1] for all flavours. The builds have some intentional omissions, but please do test them anyway. Known issues that will be addressed Sunday/Monday: - Volume label still set to Beta - base-files still not the final version - kernel will have (at least) one more revision Despite the above, please, please, please test your images. Do not wait for a "final" build to test, as that guarantees your final build will be broken. We need you testing now, iterating uploads to get your bugs fixed, filing bugs and escalating where you need help. Again: DO NOT DELAY, TEST NOW, FIX BUGS, FILE BUGS, ESCALATE FOR HELP. Happy testing everyone, and here's hoping we push out another smooth and stress-free release on Thursday. ... Adam Conrad [1] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/389/builds -- http://about.me/valoriez From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sun Apr 22 08:35:29 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 01:35:29 -0700 Subject: Wow, you testers overwhelm with awesomeness! Message-ID: I just looked at the qatracker, and we have done ALL our RC tests and some more than once! Some bugs reported have already been fixed, and it is possible that the ISOs will be respun tomorrow or Monday. If so, we may need some more testing, but for now, we are sitting pretty! Feel free to help out other flavors if you have some extra time, and see how they make their installers look! Thank you again, you wonderful people! Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From honeycuttaaron3 at gmail.com Sun Apr 22 18:30:09 2018 From: honeycuttaaron3 at gmail.com (Aaron Honeycutt) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 18:30:09 +0000 Subject: Wow, you testers overwhelm with awesomeness! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: \o/ great work people! Let's make 18.04 shine! On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 2:36 AM Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > I just looked at the qatracker, and we have done ALL our RC tests and > some more than once! Some bugs reported have already been fixed, and > it is possible that the ISOs will be respun tomorrow or Monday. > > If so, we may need some more testing, but for now, we are sitting pretty! > > Feel free to help out other flavors if you have some extra time, and > see how they make their installers look! > > Thank you again, you wonderful people! > > Valorie > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wxl at ubuntu.com Sun Apr 22 22:33:17 2018 From: wxl at ubuntu.com (Walter Lapchynski) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 15:33:17 -0700 Subject: Wow, you testers overwhelm with awesomeness! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180422223316.inhchoyozpd6uwd7@zzt> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 01:35:29AM -0700, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Feel free to help out other flavors if you have some extra time, and > see how they make their installers look! I second this idea, especially as this is an LTS release. The more testing we can get the better. Right now the only other flavor that seems to be remotely sitting pretty is Budgie and there's several that have no testing at all (including MATE and Studio). Your help would be great here. Otherwise, good job: ya'll even beat Ubuntu Desktop. -- @wxl | polka.bike C563 CAC5 8BE1 2F22 A49D 68F6 8B57 A48B C4F2 051A From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Tue Apr 24 03:09:32 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 20:09:32 -0700 Subject: Second RC spin available to test Message-ID: Hello folks, some bugs are fixed although more are still in train, so we could (and probably will) see Yet Another Spin. But this is what we have right now, so if you have a bit of time, please test! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/389/builds And of course a special call-out to those who have actual i386 computers to test on. Please note somewhere in your test description that you are testing on hardware, what sort, or only in VMs. Thanks! Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 03:56:47 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 20:56:47 -0700 Subject: Last Bionic Final testing -- we hope! Message-ID: Hi folks, new ISOs are again available. Zsync really saves time if you already have a Bionic Final image saved. Just remember to cd to that folder first. :-) One more time, please! Especially you lovely i386 users. All the best, Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 05:25:01 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:25:01 -0700 Subject: Last Bionic Final testing -- we hope! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: By the way, there are i386 tests done (thanks, crimsun!) but non on i386 hardware. I hope you i386 users can get this done soon. Remember to note what environment you are using to test. Thanks, Valorie On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Hi folks, new ISOs are again available. Zsync really saves time if you > already have a Bionic Final image saved. Just remember to cd to that > folder first. :-) > > One more time, please! Especially you lovely i386 users. > > All the best, > > Valorie > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez -- http://about.me/valoriez From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 05:48:22 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:48:22 -0700 Subject: Last Bionic Final testing -- we hope! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Franklin Weng wrote: > > It's been very difficult to find *real* i386 (single-core) machine now, at > least here. Even a 10-year-old laptop has dual core. > The closest environment I can get is a virtual machine running on PVE. > > > Franklin Then in your opinion, is it worthwhile to offer them? I was thinking of you in particular when I argued for continuing to provide them. Testing would be a great deal easier with only amd64! > 2018-04-25 13:25 GMT+08:00 Valorie Zimmerman : >> >> By the way, there are i386 tests done (thanks, crimsun!) but non on >> i386 hardware. I hope you i386 users can get this done soon. Remember >> to note what environment you are using to test. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Valorie >> >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Valorie Zimmerman >> wrote: >> > Hi folks, new ISOs are again available. Zsync really saves time if you >> > already have a Bionic Final image saved. Just remember to cd to that >> > folder first. :-) >> > >> > One more time, please! Especially you lovely i386 users. >> > >> > All the best, >> > >> > Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From girardhenri at free.fr Wed Apr 25 06:43:26 2018 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:43:26 +0200 Subject: Last Bionic Final testing -- we hope! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47cb216c-4527-91b7-fe8d-9d83ebabcc64@free.fr> I have a notebook 2 Go with amd and I use 32 bits Le 25/04/2018 à 07:48, Valorie Zimmerman a écrit : > On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Franklin Weng > wrote: >> It's been very difficult to find *real* i386 (single-core) machine now, at >> least here. Even a 10-year-old laptop has dual core. >> The closest environment I can get is a virtual machine running on PVE. >> >> >> Franklin > Then in your opinion, is it worthwhile to offer them? I was thinking > of you in particular when I argued for continuing to provide them. > Testing would be a great deal easier with only amd64! > > >> 2018-04-25 13:25 GMT+08:00 Valorie Zimmerman : >>> By the way, there are i386 tests done (thanks, crimsun!) but non on >>> i386 hardware. I hope you i386 users can get this done soon. Remember >>> to note what environment you are using to test. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Valorie >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Valorie Zimmerman >>> wrote: >>>> Hi folks, new ISOs are again available. Zsync really saves time if you >>>> already have a Bionic Final image saved. Just remember to cd to that >>>> folder first. :-) >>>> >>>> One more time, please! Especially you lovely i386 users. >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> >>>> Valorie From contact at charlieluna.com Wed Apr 25 15:43:50 2018 From: contact at charlieluna.com (Charlie) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:43:50 -0700 Subject: Last Bionic Final testing -- we hope! In-Reply-To: <47cb216c-4527-91b7-fe8d-9d83ebabcc64@free.fr> References: <47cb216c-4527-91b7-fe8d-9d83ebabcc64@free.fr> Message-ID: <757F23E5-CB4D-42C0-8946-49D1C44BDE9D@charlieluna.com> when i was testing the ISO from just yesterday or the day before, i kept getting a packagekit crash. it was part of the updates after i installed the latest daily build. so i went back to 16.04 and i'll try the newest spin again to see if i get the same thing. charlie > On Apr 24, 2018, at 11:43 PM, Girard Henri wrote: > > I have a notebook 2 Go with amd and I use 32 bits > > >> Le 25/04/2018 à 07:48, Valorie Zimmerman a écrit : >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Franklin Weng >> wrote: >>> It's been very difficult to find *real* i386 (single-core) machine now, at >>> least here. Even a 10-year-old laptop has dual core. >>> The closest environment I can get is a virtual machine running on PVE. >>> >>> >>> Franklin >> Then in your opinion, is it worthwhile to offer them? I was thinking >> of you in particular when I argued for continuing to provide them. >> Testing would be a great deal easier with only amd64! >> >> >>> 2018-04-25 13:25 GMT+08:00 Valorie Zimmerman : >>>> By the way, there are i386 tests done (thanks, crimsun!) but non on >>>> i386 hardware. I hope you i386 users can get this done soon. Remember >>>> to note what environment you are using to test. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Valorie >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Valorie Zimmerman >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi folks, new ISOs are again available. Zsync really saves time if you >>>>> already have a Bionic Final image saved. Just remember to cd to that >>>>> folder first. :-) >>>>> >>>>> One more time, please! Especially you lovely i386 users. >>>>> >>>>> All the best, >>>>> >>>>> Valorie > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 21:17:53 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 14:17:53 -0700 Subject: Last Bionic Final testing -- we hope! In-Reply-To: <757F23E5-CB4D-42C0-8946-49D1C44BDE9D@charlieluna.com> References: <47cb216c-4527-91b7-fe8d-9d83ebabcc64@free.fr> <757F23E5-CB4D-42C0-8946-49D1C44BDE9D@charlieluna.com> Message-ID: Charlie, did you file bug reports on those crashes, and link them onto the qatracker? Folks, testing is good, but *reported* testing is essential! New spins (we assume the list and final) will be out soon. We absolutely need crashes reported: `ubuntu-bug ubiquity` if in the installer. If you can't report because of a total crash, reboot and report from a live session. Of course you need your launchpad and qatracker accounts set up in advance, so do that now if you have not already done it. https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/NewAccount https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ You might find this useful, if you've not done this before: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough Valorie On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 8:43 AM, Charlie wrote: > when i was testing the ISO from just yesterday or the day before, i kept getting a packagekit crash. it was part of the updates after i installed the latest daily build. so i went back to 16.04 and i'll try the newest spin again to see if i get the same thing. > > charlie > >> On Apr 24, 2018, at 11:43 PM, Girard Henri wrote: >> >> I have a notebook 2 Go with amd and I use 32 bits >> >> >>> Le 25/04/2018 à 07:48, Valorie Zimmerman a écrit : >>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Franklin Weng >>> wrote: >>>> It's been very difficult to find *real* i386 (single-core) machine now, at >>>> least here. Even a 10-year-old laptop has dual core. >>>> The closest environment I can get is a virtual machine running on PVE. >>>> >>>> >>>> Franklin >>> Then in your opinion, is it worthwhile to offer them? I was thinking >>> of you in particular when I argued for continuing to provide them. >>> Testing would be a great deal easier with only amd64! >>> >>> >>>> 2018-04-25 13:25 GMT+08:00 Valorie Zimmerman : >>>>> By the way, there are i386 tests done (thanks, crimsun!) but non on >>>>> i386 hardware. I hope you i386 users can get this done soon. Remember >>>>> to note what environment you are using to test. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Valorie >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Valorie Zimmerman >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi folks, new ISOs are again available. Zsync really saves time if you >>>>>> already have a Bionic Final image saved. Just remember to cd to that >>>>>> folder first. :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> One more time, please! Especially you lovely i386 users. >>>>>> >>>>>> All the best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From contact at charlieluna.com Wed Apr 25 23:11:34 2018 From: contact at charlieluna.com (Charlie) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 16:11:34 -0700 Subject: Last Bionic Final testing -- we hope! In-Reply-To: References: <47cb216c-4527-91b7-fe8d-9d83ebabcc64@free.fr> <757F23E5-CB4D-42C0-8946-49D1C44BDE9D@charlieluna.com> Message-ID: <5CDA20C7-299F-4B91-9071-B9C22AED1C5B@charlieluna.com> Valorie, I haven't been able to get back to reporting the crash yet and I'm getting ready to in a little while. I've been at work all day and just got home. I'll sit down and do that for sure. And yes, I agree with you. Reporting is important in order to make things better. I'm new to the qa tracker so I'll do that as well. Charlie > On Apr 25, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > > Charlie, did you file bug reports on those crashes, and link them onto > the qatracker? Folks, testing is good, but *reported* testing is > essential! > > New spins (we assume the list and final) will be out soon. > > We absolutely need crashes reported: `ubuntu-bug ubiquity` if in the > installer. If you can't report because of a total crash, reboot and > report from a live session. Of course you need your launchpad and > qatracker accounts set up in advance, so do that now if you have not > already done it. > > https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/NewAccount > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ > > You might find this useful, if you've not done this before: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough > > Valorie > >> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 8:43 AM, Charlie wrote: >> when i was testing the ISO from just yesterday or the day before, i kept getting a packagekit crash. it was part of the updates after i installed the latest daily build. so i went back to 16.04 and i'll try the newest spin again to see if i get the same thing. >> >> charlie >> >>> On Apr 24, 2018, at 11:43 PM, Girard Henri wrote: >>> >>> I have a notebook 2 Go with amd and I use 32 bits >>> >>> >>>> Le 25/04/2018 à 07:48, Valorie Zimmerman a écrit : >>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Franklin Weng >>>> wrote: >>>>> It's been very difficult to find *real* i386 (single-core) machine now, at >>>>> least here. Even a 10-year-old laptop has dual core. >>>>> The closest environment I can get is a virtual machine running on PVE. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Franklin >>>> Then in your opinion, is it worthwhile to offer them? I was thinking >>>> of you in particular when I argued for continuing to provide them. >>>> Testing would be a great deal easier with only amd64! >>>> >>>> >>>>> 2018-04-25 13:25 GMT+08:00 Valorie Zimmerman : >>>>>> By the way, there are i386 tests done (thanks, crimsun!) but non on >>>>>> i386 hardware. I hope you i386 users can get this done soon. Remember >>>>>> to note what environment you are using to test. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Valorie >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Valorie Zimmerman >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi folks, new ISOs are again available. Zsync really saves time if you >>>>>>> already have a Bionic Final image saved. Just remember to cd to that >>>>>>> folder first. :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One more time, please! Especially you lovely i386 users. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Valorie > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 23:30:31 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 16:30:31 -0700 Subject: Final final FINAL Bionic RC images are available for testing Message-ID: Final -- we hope! Test the heck out of this, folks. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/389/builds <--- only test results reported on the tracker count! And please file bugs if necessary. There probably isn't time to fix anything but critical bugs, but we can definitely make the installer better by. 18.04.1, so bug reports are still really valuable. Thanks again, Valorie PS: the sooner we finish our testing and report the images ready, the sooner the 18.04 release can happen tomorrow. So test, test, test! -- http://about.me/valoriez From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Thu Apr 26 04:14:40 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 21:14:40 -0700 Subject: i386 tests remain to be done; amd64 tests done Message-ID: I talked a friend of mine into testing i386, however her Broadcom wifi card is not working in Bionic. Please folks, we need to have these tests done if we are going to have a release tomorrow. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Thu Apr 26 18:58:57 2018 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:58:57 -0700 Subject: It wasn't the last Final Bionic -- new spin needs brief testing if at all possible Message-ID: Hi folks there were a couple of last minute bugs found and fixed, which required one more respin. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/389/builds Please rsync and check: the live session and the slideshow at least. Thanks, one more time! Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From brianbrodsky at ameritech.net Fri Apr 27 12:46:09 2018 From: brianbrodsky at ameritech.net (Brian Brodsky) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 08:46:09 -0400 Subject: 18.04 Upgrade not showing available Message-ID: I am not able to upgrade to the latest release 18.04 of Kubuntu: brian at brian-HP-EliteBook-8770w:~$ date Fri Apr 27 08:43:00 EDT 2018 brian at brian-HP-EliteBook-8770w:~$ cat /etc/*release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=17.10 DISTRIB_CODENAME=artful DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 17.10" NAME="Ubuntu" VERSION="17.10 (Artful Aardvark)" ID=ubuntu ID_LIKE=debian PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 17.10" VERSION_ID="17.10" HOME_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/" SUPPORT_URL="https://help.ubuntu.com/" BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/" PRIVACY_POLICY_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/privacy-policy" VERSION_CODENAME=artful UBUNTU_CODENAME=artful brian at brian-HP-EliteBook-8770w:~$ cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades# Default behavior for the release upgrader. [DEFAULT] # Default prompting behavior, valid options: # # never - Never check for a new release. # normal - Check to see if a new release is available. If more than one new # release is found, the release upgrader will attempt to upgrade to # the release that immediately succeeds the currently-running # release. # lts - Check to see if a new LTS release is available. The upgrader # will attempt to upgrade to the first LTS release available after # the currently-running one. Note that this option should not be # used if the currently-running release is not itself an LTS # release, since in that case the upgrader won't be able to # determine if a newer release is available. Prompt=normal brian at brian-HP-EliteBook-8770w:~$ kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE" Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found. brian at brian-HP-EliteBook-8770w:~$ From rikmills at kubuntu.org Fri Apr 27 12:54:35 2018 From: rikmills at kubuntu.org (Rik Mills) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 13:54:35 +0100 Subject: 18.04 Upgrade not showing available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38db5a21-6e2d-a04d-780c-7edaf6ec1c39@kubuntu.org> On 27/04/18 13:46, Brian Brodsky wrote: > I am not able to upgrade to the latest release 18.04 of Kubuntu: On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu and https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-18-04-has-been-released/ it says that: "Note: Upgrades will not be enabled immediately at release time. They will become available when the release team are happy with the final state of the archive for upgrades." I cannot give a precise ETA at this time. Regards Rik MIlls From zekkerj at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 17:32:51 2018 From: zekkerj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Jos=C3=A9_Queiroz?=) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 14:32:51 -0300 Subject: 18.04 Upgrade not showing available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As far as I remember, online upgrade is only available after the release of the first RC version, near july. 2018-04-27 9:46 GMT-03:00 Brian Brodsky : > I am not able to upgrade to the latest release 18.04 of Kubuntu: > > brian at brian-HP-EliteBook-8770w:~$ date > Fri Apr 27 08:43:00 EDT 2018 > brian at brian-HP-EliteBook-8770w:~$ cat /etc/*release > DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu > DISTRIB_RELEASE=17.10 > DISTRIB_CODENAME=artful > DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 17.10" > NAME="Ubuntu" > VERSION="17.10 (Artful Aardvark)" > ID=ubuntu > ID_LIKE=debian > PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 17.10" > VERSION_ID="17.10" > HOME_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/" > SUPPORT_URL="https://help.ubuntu.com/" > BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/" > PRIVACY_POLICY_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and- > policies/privacy-policy" > VERSION_CODENAME=artful > UBUNTU_CODENAME=artful > brian at brian-HP-EliteBook-8770w:~$ cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades# > Default behavior for the release upgrader. > > [DEFAULT] > # Default prompting behavior, valid options: > # > # never - Never check for a new release. > # normal - Check to see if a new release is available. If more than one > new > # release is found, the release upgrader will attempt to upgrade > to > # the release that immediately succeeds the currently-running > # release. > # lts - Check to see if a new LTS release is available. The upgrader > # will attempt to upgrade to the first LTS release available > after > # the currently-running one. Note that this option should not be > # used if the currently-running release is not itself an LTS > # release, since in that case the upgrader won't be able to > # determine if a newer release is available. > Prompt=normal > brian at brian-HP-EliteBook-8770w:~$ kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop > -f DistUpgradeViewKDE" > Checking for a new Ubuntu release > No new release found. > brian at brian-HP-EliteBook-8770w:~$ > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailm > an/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Sat Apr 28 06:27:05 2018 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 23:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Installation Problem Message-ID: On Kubuntu 16.04 Not one of the following will insatall without all the rest, but all of them interfere with all the rest. No install, no configure, dependency problems, can't find an un-named directory, etc. nginx nginx-core nginx-full nginx-light nginx-extras What gives? Bill From clay at claydoh.com Sat Apr 28 16:24:40 2018 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 12:24:40 -0400 Subject: Installation Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34d7d0e3c87291beb7f7d70a5771143b.squirrel@claydoh.com> On Sat, April 28, 2018 2:27 am, Bill Vance wrote: > > > On Kubuntu 16.04 > > > Not one of the following will insatall without all the rest, but > all of them interfere with all the rest. No install, no configure, > dependency problems, can't find an un-named directory, etc. > > nginx nginx-core nginx-full nginx-light nginx-extras > > What gives? > > > Bill > > > -- We would need the apt output with the specific errors you are seeing to be able to help figure it out. From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Mon Apr 30 10:20:11 2018 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 03:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Installation Problem In-Reply-To: <34d7d0e3c87291beb7f7d70a5771143b.squirrel@claydoh.com> References: <34d7d0e3c87291beb7f7d70a5771143b.squirrel@claydoh.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 28 Apr 2018, Clay Weber wrote: > On Sat, April 28, 2018 2:27 am, Bill Vance wrote: > >> On Kubuntu 16.04 >> >> Not one of the following will insatall without all the rest, but >> all of them interfere with all the rest. No install, no configure, >> dependency problems, can't find an un-named directory, etc. >> >> nginx nginx-core nginx-full nginx-light nginx-extras >> >> What gives? >> >> >> Bill >> >> -- > > We would need the apt output with the specific errors you are seeing to be > able to help figure it out. Nginx-full is needed to fill a dependency, the rest are mainly just a side issue from the attempts to get the, "full", package. The following 3 lines are the command plus the output catch filename. The second, and third lines were printed on konsole, but not in the apt-inst-1 catch file. apt-get install nginx-full >>apt-inst-1 dpkg-preconfigure: unable to re-open stdin: No such file or directory E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) The apt-inst-1 catch file contains the following: Reading package lists... Building dependency tree... Reading state information... The following NEW packages will be installed: nginx-full 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 40 not upgraded. Need to get 0 B/453 kB of archives. After this operation, 1,347 kB of additional disk space will be used. Selecting previously unselected package nginx-full. (The indented lines are continuations from the previous line). (Reading database ... (Reading database ... 5%(Reading database ... 10%(Reading database ... 15%(Reading database ... 20%(Reading database ... 25%(Reading database ... 30%(Reading database ... 35%(Reading database ... 40%(Reading database ... 45%(Reading database ... 50%(Reading database ... 55%(Reading database ... 60%(Reading database ... 65%(Reading database ... 70%(Reading database ... 75%(Reading database ... 80%(Reading database ... 85%(Reading database ... 90%(Reading database ... 95%(Reading database ... 100%(Reading database ... 487707 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../nginx-full_1.10.3-0ubuntu0.16.04.2_amd64.deb ... Unpacking nginx-full (1.10.3-0ubuntu0.16.04.2) ... Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ... Setting up nginx-full (1.10.3-0ubuntu0.16.04.2) ... Job for nginx.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status nginx.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. invoke-rc.d: initscript nginx, action "start" failed. ● nginx.service - A high performance web server and a reverse proxy server Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/nginx.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Mon 2018-04-30 02:10:30 PDT; 4ms ago Process: 27123 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/nginx -g daemon on; master_process on; (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) Process: 27119 ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/nginx -t -q -g daemon on; master_process on; (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Apr 30 02:10:29 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to [::]:80 fail...e) Apr 30 02:10:29 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to 0.0.0.0:80 f...e) Apr 30 02:10:29 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to [::]:80 fail...e) Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to 0.0.0.0:80 f...e) Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to [::]:80 fail...e) Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] still could not bind() Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso systemd[1]: nginx.service: Control process exited, ...=1 Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso systemd[1]: Failed to start A high performance web ...r. Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso systemd[1]: nginx.service: Unit entered failed state. Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso systemd[1]: nginx.service: Failed with result 'exit...'. Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full. dpkg: error processing package nginx-full (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: nginx-full The following is from the, "systemctl status nginx.service", command: ● nginx.service - A high performance web server and a reverse proxy server Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/nginx.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Mon 2018-04-30 02:10:30 PDT; 43min ago Process: 27123 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/nginx -g daemon on; master_process on; (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) Process: 27119 ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/nginx -t -q -g daemon on; master_process on; (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Apr 30 02:10:29 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to [::]:80 failed (98: Address already in use) Apr 30 02:10:29 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to 0.0.0.0:80 failed (98: Address already in use) Apr 30 02:10:29 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to [::]:80 failed (98: Address already in use) Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to 0.0.0.0:80 failed (98: Address already in use) Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to [::]:80 failed (98: Address already in use) Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] still could not bind() Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso systemd[1]: nginx.service: Control process exited, code=exited status=1 Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso systemd[1]: Failed to start A high performance web server and a reverse proxy server. Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso systemd[1]: nginx.service: Unit entered failed state. Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso systemd[1]: nginx.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. There are also supposed error messages from the command: journalctl -xe However the output from that command seems to contain a copy of the entire boot up log. Bill From clay at claydoh.com Mon Apr 30 22:21:06 2018 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 18:21:06 -0400 Subject: Installation Problem In-Reply-To: References: <34d7d0e3c87291beb7f7d70a5771143b.squirrel@claydoh.com> Message-ID: On Mon, April 30, 2018 6:20 am, Bill Vance wrote: > > Apr 30 02:10:29 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to > [::]:80 failed (98: Address already in use) > Apr 30 02:10:29 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to > 0.0.0.0:80 failed (98: Address already in use) > Apr 30 02:10:29 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to > [::]:80 failed (98: Address already in use) > Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to > 0.0.0.0:80 failed (98: Address already in use) > Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] bind() to > [::]:80 failed (98: Address already in use) > Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso nginx[27123]: nginx: [emerg] still could > not bind() Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso systemd[1]: nginx.service: Control > process exited, code=exited status=1 Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso systemd[1]: > Failed to start A high > performance web server and a reverse proxy server. Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso > systemd[1]: nginx.service: Unit entered > failed state. Apr 30 02:10:30 xpresso systemd[1]: nginx.service: Failed > with result 'exit-code'. As far as I can tell, the nginx web server seems to fail to start after installing as some other program already installed (like apache?) is using port [::]:80, or you either have to enable ipv6 on your system, or configure nginx web server to use ipv6 only. Some ideas here, among other links: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14972792/nginx-nginx-emerg-bind-to-80-failed-98-address-already-in-use Ultimately this is more of an nginx web server setup/config/environment issue, and less a KDE/Kubuntu one, so there may not be many with the related experience or knowledge here.