16.04 w/o KDE PIM?

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 04 March 2016 06:33:58 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:

> To tell the truth, KDEPIM is broken since the first 4.x version. It
> used to work so well in KDE 3.5.x, but after the "akonadified" KDEPIM
> 4, nothing is reliable as it used to be anymore.
> I've been fighting all this time to find a way through all the many
> bugs, crashes and freezes of KMail because I've been unable to find
> another mail client that can be configured to do all the things KMail
> does (or did) and I was always hopeful that things would get better
> with time, but I'm really tired of all this and in the last few months
> I've been seriously considering to switch to another mail client. I
> found no other client that is so resourceful as KMail once was, but it
> is more important to me that it is reliable and fast. KMail really
> hasn't been either for a long time and I should have abandoned it long
> ago.
> If Kubuntu does not ship KDEPIM anymore, it will be just the little
> push I needed to make the change, and I will wecome that. I think KDE
> as a whole will behave better without KDEPIM.
>
> []'s
> Marcelo

This is probably the wrong list to point this out, but...

For all of the above reasons, and the non-responsiveness of the kde group 
to address real world usage problems, I switched to TDE, which is a fork 
of KDE as of nominally 3.5.

Emphasis since has been on bugfixing, but the amount of updates in a 
month are staggering, yet none of those updates has created a single 
problem for me. Currently running TDE r14.0.3 here.  KMail itself has 
had 3 or 4 updates, but its internal version has remained at 1.9.10.

I should note that I do the mail suckage with fetchmail, with a prefilter 
by mailfilter, and postfiltering by procmail, whose main job is to run 
incoming mail past clamscand and spamassassin, so my kmail doesn't 
freeze the system for more than a small fraction of a second because it 
doesn't have to reach any farther that /var/spool/mail to get new mail 
when it gets a message to go get the mail from a script I wrote to tell 
kmail to go get it when a new mail has arrived.

IMO mail shouldn't require /any/ user intervention to show up in kmail, 
nor should kmail freeze the system for 30+ seconds by going out on the 
net to fetch/check for mail on a regular schedule.  Fetchmail does that 
as a background task with zero effect on the rest of the system.

I'll get me coat now.

> 2016-03-04 4:31 GMT-03:00 O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com>:
> > On 04/03/2016 09:09, Luca Olivetti wrote:
> > > El 04/03/16 a les 07:33, O. Sinclair ha escrit:
> > >> Dear all,
> > >>
> > >> am I reading this right:
> > >> Known Issues:
> > >>   KDE PIM is in a broken state of brokenness.
> > >
> > > Well, of the kde pim suite I only use knotes and it *is* broken in
> > > current kubuntu: I randomly either get all of my notes, none of
> > > them, or they are completely black.
> > > In fact, I don't use it anymore, I cannot rely on it.
> > >
> > > Bye
> >
> > Knotes is "abandonware" sadly - I have since long resorted to
> > Basket.. that is also "abandonware". But to me the core of KDEPIM is
> > KMail, Contacts, Akregator, ToDo and so on
> >
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