O. Sinclair o.sinclair at gmail.com
Wed Jul 1 12:19:45 UTC 2015

On 01/07/2015 14:08, TuxMario DETREB wrote:
> Le 01/07/2015 11:50, O. Sinclair a écrit :
>> On 01/07/2015 08:10, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Felix Miata <mrmazda at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Billie Walsh composed on 2015-06-30 16:03 (UTC-0500):
>>>>> No critter likes "change". We all want things to remain just as they
>>>>> are, and always have been. The change from KDE3 to KDE4 meant that
>>>>> I had
>>>>> to learn to use a new piece of software.
>>>> Some of us in older generations have learned to not fix what ain't
>>>> broke, and
>>>> would like to see some respect from naive youth causing change. KDE
>>>> upstream
>>>> has at least twice discarded invested wealth by starting from
>>>> scratch in
>>>> order to institute perceived need to change. It's learned little
>>>> from the
>>>> wisdom that history provides.
>>> Many of the changes have come about because if there is no fix, it
>>> will *become* broken. Hardware changes, the kernel has to adapt, and
>>> software changes radiate out in all directions as a result. I wouldn't
>>> cast blame on the young, either -- some of us older folks create
>>> Kubuntu, and create KDE.
>>> We welcome all people of good will to help us build Kubuntu. If you
>>> want Kubuntu to continue to grow and thrive, consider contributing. We
>>> need people to test, to file bugs, to triage and fix those bugs, to
>>> package, write documentation, translate and internationalize, promote
>>> Kubuntu, plan meetings and gatherings, do artwork, and on and on. If
>>> you have time, we need YOU.
>> This all reminds me of the KDE3- KDE4 migration. But if we only want
>> stability I would perhaps use Windows XP still (it is my job to know the
>> various Windows versions) as it "does the job" in most cases. But, as
>> pointed out by Valerie, will have huge problems with recent hardware. As
>> will Trinity and eventually KDE4.
>> I have all and full respect for those continuing to evolve KDE to stay
>> up to date and not become outdated. Let us agree that "change is the
>> only permanent".
>> As many others I have decided to stay on KDE4 for now - I need a stable
>> production environment. So I am one of those who do not help much with
>> testing "bleeding edge" as I use Kubuntu to make a living and have
>> issues with crashes, software not working yet and so on.
>> But I follow the developments and changes with great interest and when I
>> have time I run 15.04 in virtualbox to keep up and file bugs. Kudos to
>> all devs, the VDG and others!
> I read many bad remarks about KDE5 and Kubuntu 15.04. Some of its are a
> little bit aggressive!
> I only want to give my better feeling to KDE/Kubuntu developers about
> the new releases.
> The migration from 14.10 to 15.04 was very smooth for me and I had very
> few problems to adapt my old brain (I'm 63 (old ?))
> I like new features and I'm ready to support some issue but my usage of
> Kubuntu 15.04 didn't reached any important one since end of April. So
> give my congratulations to KDE/Kubuntu developers.
> Naturally I recommend users to keep LTS release when needing a very
> stable PC
> Regards : Mario ROGER
> PS : I apologize for my poor English (I'm French)
Your English is way better than my French ;-)

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