From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Wed Apr 1 11:15:46 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 04:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade Insanity Message-ID: Howdy Folks; Some of you may recall a while back, I had problems with getting 14.04 installed on my machine, and that the problem was basically an aging machine not being able to deal with a new OS. It'll be a while yet, before I can afford the computer upgrade, but it'll get here eventually. I would long since have upgraded if I could, and really don't need to have my elbow jostled. In the mean-time, I've had to put up with moderately annoying, continual reminders that, "There's a new OS, click here to upgrade now!", etc. Mostly it's been reasonably well behaved, staying down in the panel, or across the top line of Muon, but now it's gone completely insane. Now there's a window stating, "APPER Distribution upgrade available Trusty 14.04.2 LTS the latest stable release", with a, "Start upgrade now", link. It occaissionally blocks out places I need to get to, and takes anywhere from 1 to 20 mouse clicks to get rid of it. It reappears approximately every 30 stinking seconds. Is there any way to permanently turn this crap off? Bill From info at alvin.be Wed Apr 1 11:21:29 2015 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 13:21:29 +0200 Subject: Upgrade Insanity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2984221.EiroFGJuf9@alia> On Wednesday 01 April 2015 04:15:46 Bill Vance wrote: > [...] > Now there's a window stating, "APPER Distribution > upgrade available Trusty 14.04.2 LTS the latest > stable release", with a, "Start upgrade now", link. > [...] > Is there any way to permanently turn this crap off? Check this file: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades I believe setting "Prompt=never" will disable the upgrade messages. From gilgib1 at verizon.net Wed Apr 1 12:38:24 2015 From: gilgib1 at verizon.net (Gilgib1) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 08:38:24 -0400 Subject: Upgrade Insanity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <551BE6C0.2040205@verizon.net> On 04/01/2015 07:15 AM, Bill Vance wrote: > > Howdy Folks; > > > > Now there's a window stating, "APPER Distribution > upgrade available Trusty 14.04.2 LTS the latest > stable release", with a, "Start upgrade now", link. It > occaissionally blocks out places I need to get to, and > takes anywhere from 1 to 20 mouse clicks to get rid of > it. It reappears approximately every 30 stinking > seconds. > > Is there any way to permanently turn this crap off? > > Bill > Muon Package Manager select Settings, Updates , Release Upgrade and select Never From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Wed Apr 1 14:20:12 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 07:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade Insanity In-Reply-To: <2984221.EiroFGJuf9@alia> References: <2984221.EiroFGJuf9@alia> Message-ID: On Wed, 1 Apr 2015, Alvin wrote: > On Wednesday 01 April 2015 04:15:46 Bill Vance wrote: >> [...] >> Now there's a window stating, "APPER Distribution >> upgrade available Trusty 14.04.2 LTS the latest >> stable release", with a, "Start upgrade now", link. >> [...] >> Is there any way to permanently turn this crap off? > > Check this file: > /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades > I believe setting "Prompt=never" will disable the upgrade messages. This seems to be the likelier of the two suggestions, but I did both, so It could have been either or both that did the trick. Thanks guys. Bill From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Apr 2 01:13:35 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 21:13:35 -0400 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> Well, I guess plasma is not for me... at least not at the moment in a beta state. But I think there will still be bugs when it goes live in 15.04. I have switched to XFCE4 which I used to use and really liked. It does everything I want to do and has been around long enough that the bugs have been worked out. The reason I gave up on XFCE at one point was that Kmail wouldn't run on it... but then Kmail began to have pains and I gave up on Kmail and switched to T-bird. That's what linux is all about: choice! So for the moment things are nice with 15.04 as I re-learn my way around XFCE. But it looks like it will work out just fine. Thanks for all the help on Plasma 5 and I may return to it someday in the future. From accessys at smart.net Thu Apr 2 02:45:13 2015 From: accessys at smart.net (accessys at smart.net) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 22:45:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Upgrade Insanity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: no problem already insane.........;P Bob From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Apr 2 03:49:40 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 05:49:40 +0200 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> On 02/04/2015 03:13, Bruce Marshall wrote: > Well, I guess plasma is not for me... at least not at the moment in a > beta state. But I think there will still be bugs when it goes live in > 15.04. > > I have switched to XFCE4 which I used to use and really liked. It does > everything I want to do and has been around long enough that the bugs > have been worked out. > > The reason I gave up on XFCE at one point was that Kmail wouldn't run on > it... but then Kmail began to have pains and I gave up on Kmail and > switched to T-bird. That's what linux is all about: choice! > > So for the moment things are nice with 15.04 as I re-learn my way around > XFCE. But it looks like it will work out just fine. > > Thanks for all the help on Plasma 5 and I may return to it someday in > the future. > Not quite understanding: did you leave the well working KDE4 to experiment with KDE5 and then reverted to XFCE4?? From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Apr 2 14:23:28 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (bmarsh at bmarsh.com) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 10:23:28 -0400 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> > On Apr 1, 2015, at 11:49 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> On 02/04/2015 03:13, Bruce Marshall wrote: >> Well, I guess plasma is not for me... at least not at the moment in a >> beta state. But I think there will still be bugs when it goes live in >> 15.04. >> >> I have switched to XFCE4 which I used to use and really liked. It does >> everything I want to do and has been around long enough that the bugs >> have been worked out. >> >> The reason I gave up on XFCE at one point was that Kmail wouldn't run on >> it... but then Kmail began to have pains and I gave up on Kmail and >> switched to T-bird. That's what linux is all about: choice! >> >> So for the moment things are nice with 15.04 as I re-learn my way around >> XFCE. But it looks like it will work out just fine. >> >> Thanks for all the help on Plasma 5 and I may return to it someday in >> the future. > Not quite understanding: did you leave the well working KDE4 to > experiment with KDE5 and then reverted to XFCE4?? > > I've been using the version of KDE that comes with each kubuntu release... And I do a fresh install every new release. And I haven't really paid attention to the KDE version I was using as long as it worked. So 15.04 has switched to Plasma 5 (is that KDE 5?). And it is not working so swell. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From m.celiesius at yandex.ru Thu Apr 2 14:30:50 2015 From: m.celiesius at yandex.ru (m.celiesius) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 17:30:50 +0300 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> Message-ID: <551D529A.7090808@yandex.ru> I think he leave KDE5... On 2015.04.02 06:49, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 02/04/2015 03:13, Bruce Marshall wrote: >> Well, I guess plasma is not for me... at least not at the moment in a >> beta state. But I think there will still be bugs when it goes live in >> 15.04. >> >> I have switched to XFCE4 which I used to use and really liked. It does >> everything I want to do and has been around long enough that the bugs >> have been worked out. >> >> The reason I gave up on XFCE at one point was that Kmail wouldn't run on >> it... but then Kmail began to have pains and I gave up on Kmail and >> switched to T-bird. That's what linux is all about: choice! >> >> So for the moment things are nice with 15.04 as I re-learn my way around >> XFCE. But it looks like it will work out just fine. >> >> Thanks for all the help on Plasma 5 and I may return to it someday in >> the future. >> > Not quite understanding: did you leave the well working KDE4 to > experiment with KDE5 and then reverted to XFCE4?? > > > From reb68 at att.net Thu Apr 2 17:34:24 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:34:24 -0400 Subject: Upgrading to 15.04 Message-ID: <551D7DA0.3070201@att.net> When my screen said an upgrade was available I ran the 15.04 upgrade and get to the login screen. At that point I get a black screen with just my curser activated. on the way to boot up I get this message: ---------------- 1.4178621 ACPC PROBE FAILED Starting Version 219 ____________ I also burned an iso and tried to install it but that did not work.Is there a way (that I can understand) to back up and try to reinstall the version 15.04? If I knew how to remove it I would wait until April 15 (I think that is the date) and start over. Thank you for any help. I have been using Kubuntu for several years as barmannsbar.com but the Domain name was in my friends name and after he died it expired and I did not know it. Trying to straighten that out also. Dick Barmann From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Apr 2 17:54:07 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 19:54:07 +0200 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> On 02/04/2015 16:23, bmarsh at bmarsh.com wrote: > > > > > >> On Apr 1, 2015, at 11:49 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> >>> On 02/04/2015 03:13, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>> Well, I guess plasma is not for me... at least not at the moment in a >>> beta state. But I think there will still be bugs when it goes live in >>> 15.04. >>> >>> I have switched to XFCE4 which I used to use and really liked. It does >>> everything I want to do and has been around long enough that the bugs >>> have been worked out. >>> >>> The reason I gave up on XFCE at one point was that Kmail wouldn't run on >>> it... but then Kmail began to have pains and I gave up on Kmail and >>> switched to T-bird. That's what linux is all about: choice! >>> >>> So for the moment things are nice with 15.04 as I re-learn my way around >>> XFCE. But it looks like it will work out just fine. >>> >>> Thanks for all the help on Plasma 5 and I may return to it someday in >>> the future. >> Not quite understanding: did you leave the well working KDE4 to >> experiment with KDE5 and then reverted to XFCE4?? >> >> > > I've been using the version of KDE that comes with each kubuntu release... And I do a fresh install every new release. And I haven't really paid attention to the KDE version I was using as long as it worked. > > So 15.04 has switched to Plasma 5 (is that KDE 5?). And it is not working so swell. > That is what I don't quite get. 15.04 is not even released. You can stay with 14.10 and still upgrade kernel and most other stuff via ppa So if your upgrade to every new version is not about KDE and other software, what is it then about? From james.cain.25 at gmail.com Thu Apr 2 18:20:48 2015 From: james.cain.25 at gmail.com (James Cain) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 14:20:48 -0400 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> Message-ID: > I've been using the version of KDE that comes with each kubuntu release... And I do a fresh install every new release. And I haven't really paid attention to the KDE version I was using as long as it > worked. So 15.04 has switched to Plasma 5 (is that KDE 5?). And it is not working so swell. 15.04 is not a new release. It's not even yet a release. In fact, at the time of your email it was still *Alpha* software. Sure, there's bugs. In fact, for day-to-day use in any kind of environment that would be deemed *important*, LTS versions of all Ubuntu flavors, including XFCE, are recommended. Currently that would be 14.04, which has a 5-year support status. Honestly the only conclusion one could reach here is that the OP likes XFCE better than KDE (which is fine), and chose to pin the reason for the switch on what the OP calls buggy software. Without even an example of what he meant or any attempted solutions to fix it, except to write about it here in very general, and non-helpful to readers of this mailing list, terms. The fact that this thread even has this many answers to it is a bit baffling. James On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 1:54 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 02/04/2015 16:23, bmarsh at bmarsh.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Apr 1, 2015, at 11:49 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> > >>> On 02/04/2015 03:13, Bruce Marshall wrote: > >>> Well, I guess plasma is not for me... at least not at the moment in a > >>> beta state. But I think there will still be bugs when it goes live in > >>> 15.04. > >>> > >>> I have switched to XFCE4 which I used to use and really liked. It does > >>> everything I want to do and has been around long enough that the bugs > >>> have been worked out. > >>> > >>> The reason I gave up on XFCE at one point was that Kmail wouldn't run > on > >>> it... but then Kmail began to have pains and I gave up on Kmail and > >>> switched to T-bird. That's what linux is all about: choice! > >>> > >>> So for the moment things are nice with 15.04 as I re-learn my way > around > >>> XFCE. But it looks like it will work out just fine. > >>> > >>> Thanks for all the help on Plasma 5 and I may return to it someday in > >>> the future. > >> Not quite understanding: did you leave the well working KDE4 to > >> experiment with KDE5 and then reverted to XFCE4?? > >> > >> > > > > I've been using the version of KDE that comes with each kubuntu > release... And I do a fresh install every new release. And I haven't > really paid attention to the KDE version I was using as long as it worked. > > > > So 15.04 has switched to Plasma 5 (is that KDE 5?). And it is not > working so swell. > > > That is what I don't quite get. 15.04 is not even released. You can stay > with 14.10 and still upgrade kernel and most other stuff via ppa > > So if your upgrade to every new version is not about KDE and other > software, what is it then about? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Apr 2 18:41:53 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 14:41:53 -0400 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> Message-ID: <551D8D71.6000106@bmarsh.com> On 04/02/2015 01:54 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: > That is what I don't quite get. 15.04 is not even released. You can stay > with 14.10 and still upgrade kernel and most other stuff via ppa > > So if your upgrade to every new version is not about KDE and other > software, what is it then about? I've worked with computer all my life (55 years of computer work.... including sending a man to the moon) so it's a natural thing for me to 'play' with computers.... I upgrade "because it is there" and I usually start with a late beta and use the updates to get to the final release. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Apr 2 18:45:07 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 14:45:07 -0400 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> Message-ID: <551D8E33.9020100@bmarsh.com> On 04/02/2015 02:20 PM, James Cain wrote: > > I've been using the version of KDE that comes with each kubuntu > release... And I do a fresh install every new release. And I haven't > really paid attention to the KDE version I was using as long as it > > worked. So 15.04 has switched to Plasma 5 (is that KDE 5?). And it is > not working so swell. > > 15.04 is not a new release. It's not even yet a release. In fact, at > the time of your email it was still *Alpha* software. WRONG!! See "Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Final Beta released" as of March 26th. > Sure, there's bugs. In fact, for day-to-day use in any kind of > environment that would be deemed /important/, LTS versions of all > Ubuntu flavors, including XFCE, are recommended. Currently that would > be 14.04, which has a 5-year support status. Honestly the only > conclusion one could reach here is that the OP likes XFCE better than > KDE (which is fine), and chose to pin the reason for the switch on > what the OP calls buggy software. As I stated.... there is enough wrong with Plasma 5 that I DO NOT think the bugs will be fixed for quite some time. That, and the fact that I don't need/want all the glitz of plasma, made me go back and try XFCE. > Without even an example of what he meant or any attempted solutions to > fix it, except to write about it here in very general, and non-helpful > to readers of this mailing list, terms. The fact that this thread even > has this many answers to it is a bit baffling. Ok, call me a troll if you like... But that's not the case. > > James > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 1:54 PM, O. Sinclair > wrote: > > On 02/04/2015 16:23, bmarsh at bmarsh.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Apr 1, 2015, at 11:49 PM, O. Sinclair > wrote: > >> > >>> On 02/04/2015 03:13, Bruce Marshall wrote: > >>> Well, I guess plasma is not for me... at least not at the > moment in a > >>> beta state. But I think there will still be bugs when it goes > live in > >>> 15.04. > >>> > >>> I have switched to XFCE4 which I used to use and really > liked. It does > >>> everything I want to do and has been around long enough that > the bugs > >>> have been worked out. > >>> > >>> The reason I gave up on XFCE at one point was that Kmail > wouldn't run on > >>> it... but then Kmail began to have pains and I gave up on > Kmail and > >>> switched to T-bird. That's what linux is all about: choice! > >>> > >>> So for the moment things are nice with 15.04 as I re-learn my > way around > >>> XFCE. But it looks like it will work out just fine. > >>> > >>> Thanks for all the help on Plasma 5 and I may return to it > someday in > >>> the future. > >> Not quite understanding: did you leave the well working KDE4 to > >> experiment with KDE5 and then reverted to XFCE4?? > >> > >> > > > > I've been using the version of KDE that comes with each kubuntu > release... And I do a fresh install every new release. 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I have been using Kubuntu for several years as > barmannsbar.com but the Domain name was in my friends name and after he > died it expired and I did not know it. Trying to straighten that out also. > > Dick Barmann You should not have to reinstall. There is a bug that has been difficult to reproduce, but there is a manual fix found in comment #6 in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1431332 crtl-alt-f2 get to a vt, and enter the commands given. I had this on one of my boxes earlier on, but not the other two. -- Clay Weber From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Apr 2 20:38:23 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 22:38:23 +0200 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <551D8D71.6000106@bmarsh.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> <551D8D71.6000106@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <551DA8BF.1030804@gmail.com> On 02/04/2015 20:41, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/02/2015 01:54 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> That is what I don't quite get. 15.04 is not even released. You can stay >> with 14.10 and still upgrade kernel and most other stuff via ppa >> >> So if your upgrade to every new version is not about KDE and other >> software, what is it then about? > > > I've worked with computer all my life (55 years of computer work.... > including sending a man to the moon) so it's a natural thing for me to > 'play' with computers.... > > I upgrade "because it is there" and I usually start with a late beta > and use the updates to get to the final release. > > Well I tend to tinker as well, I have about 40 years experience so not a noob. But when it comes to my production system I "tinker" in a VM with new stuff, especially beta. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Apr 2 20:59:04 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 16:59:04 -0400 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <551DA8BF.1030804@gmail.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> <551D8D71.6000106@bmarsh.com> <551DA8BF.1030804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <551DAD98.40400@bmarsh.com> On 04/02/2015 04:38 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: > Well I tend to tinker as well, I have about 40 years experience so not a > noob. But when it comes to my production system I "tinker" in a VM with > new stuff, especially beta. When loading a new release, beta or not, I always use new partitions and can then re-boot to the previous system if needed. and there is usually a previous-previous system I could use as well.. Don't want to waste the time on a virtual system. -- "After all is said and done, more is said than done." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Apr 2 22:14:54 2015 From: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk (Sid Boyce) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 23:14:54 +0100 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <551DBF5E.3070409@blueyonder.co.uk> So far so good. I suppose there will be problems but it should be getting better. It's working perfectly for me so far on openSUSE Tumbleweed and Kubuntu 15.04 but that's not saying no one else will have problems. At this stage it's better than I expected. Regards Sid. On 02/04/15 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 21:13:35 -0400 > From: Bruce Marshall > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: Re: Plasma anyone? > Message-ID:<551C97BF.6020309 at bmarsh.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Well, I guess plasma is not for me... at least not at the moment in a > beta state. But I think there will still be bugs when it goes live in > 15.04. > > I have switched to XFCE4 which I used to use and really liked. It does > everything I want to do and has been around long enough that the bugs > have been worked out. > > The reason I gave up on XFCE at one point was that Kmail wouldn't run on > it... but then Kmail began to have pains and I gave up on Kmail and > switched to T-bird. That's what linux is all about: choice! > > So for the moment things are nice with 15.04 as I re-learn my way around > XFCE. But it looks like it will work out just fine. > > Thanks for all the help on Plasma 5 and I may return to it someday in > the future. > > > > ------------------------------ -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks From reb68 at att.net Fri Apr 3 01:50:01 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 21:50:01 -0400 Subject: Upgrading to 15.04 sddm bug Message-ID: <551DF1C9.3050307@att.net> I went to the url about the bug mentioned in my previous post and tried the fix for the problem of sddm not starting after upgrade and had no change. I tried it several times to make sure I did the code correctly to no avail. Is there another fix? should I try a new daily build or wait for the final? Dick Barmann From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Apr 3 05:04:02 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 07:04:02 +0200 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <551DAD98.40400@bmarsh.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> <551D8D71.6000106@bmarsh.com> <551DA8BF.1030804@gmail.com> <551DAD98.40400@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <551E1F42.6000209@gmail.com> On 02/04/2015 22:59, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/02/2015 04:38 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> Well I tend to tinker as well, I have about 40 years experience so not a >> noob. But when it comes to my production system I "tinker" in a VM with >> new stuff, especially beta. > > When loading a new release, beta or not, I always use new partitions > and can then re-boot to the previous system if needed. and there is > usually a previous-previous system I could use as well.. Don't want > to waste the time on a virtual system. > > - unfortunately dont have disk enough for that, I try out in a VM and if not happy decides to wait until things are stable. And realise I must have been tired when I upgraded my experience by nearly 10 years, make that "over 30 years" instead of 40. From reb68 at att.net Fri Apr 3 12:36:50 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 08:36:50 -0400 Subject: sddm not starting after upgrade Message-ID: <551E8962.7040304@att.net> I have tried all the suggestions in the bug report but none of them have helped me. I have installed all the system updates showing daily on my monitor. Then I updated from 14.04 to 14.10. then I tried to install 15.04 and get the message 1.4178621 ACPC (I think) PROBE FAILED/ Starting Version 219. I still get the same black screen after logging in and getting to the next screen (with a wide band across the center). What can I do to get into 15.04? Thanks for any help Dick Barmann From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Fri Apr 3 13:01:31 2015 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 08:01:31 -0500 Subject: Enter key when logging out/rebooting Message-ID: <551E8F2B.2070101@lyonlabs.org> Vivid beta 2, all patches applied. When logging out or rebooting and the panel appears across the screen with buttons, only the regular Enter key works (not the numeric keypad Enter key). Under which component should a bug be filed? Is that an sddm thing? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri Apr 3 13:55:46 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (bmarsh at bmarsh.com) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 09:55:46 -0400 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <551E1F42.6000209@gmail.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> <551D8D71.6000106@bmarsh.com> <551DA8BF.1030804@gmail.com> <551DAD98.40400@bmarsh.com> <551E1F42.6000209@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5642D748-16F5-4A6C-9C85-8C0934EDCD13@bmarsh.com> > On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:04 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> On 02/04/2015 22:59, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>> On 04/02/2015 04:38 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: >>> Well I tend to tinker as well, I have about 40 years experience so not a >>> noob. But when it comes to my production system I "tinker" in a VM with >>> new stuff, especially beta. >> >> When loading a new release, beta or not, I always use new partitions >> and can then re-boot to the previous system if needed. and there is >> usually a previous-previous system I could use as well.. Don't want >> to waste the time on a virtual system. >> >> - > unfortunately dont have disk enough for that, I try out in a VM and if > not happy decides to wait until things are stable. > But.... But... Disks are terribly cheap these days... Like $74 for 2TB. I have two of those drives I am using for backup. And two of them in the machine... The backups are placed in a cheep USB external dock. > And realise I must have been tired when I upgraded my experience by > nearly 10 years, make that "over 30 years" instead of 40. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From buzzmandt at gmail.com Fri Apr 3 15:14:26 2015 From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 11:14:26 -0400 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <5642D748-16F5-4A6C-9C85-8C0934EDCD13@bmarsh.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> <551D8D71.6000106@bmarsh.com> <551DA8BF.1030804@gmail.com> <551DAD98.40400@bmarsh.com> <551E1F42.6000209@gmail.com> <5642D748-16F5-4A6C-9C85-8C0934EDCD13@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: Be sure and send me one. Thanks . FYI, $74 isn't pocket change for everyone On Apr 3, 2015 9:56 AM, "bmarsh at bmarsh.com" wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:04 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > > > >> On 02/04/2015 22:59, Bruce Marshall wrote: > >>> On 04/02/2015 04:38 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: > >>> Well I tend to tinker as well, I have about 40 years experience so not > a > >>> noob. But when it comes to my production system I "tinker" in a VM with > >>> new stuff, especially beta. > >> > >> When loading a new release, beta or not, I always use new partitions > >> and can then re-boot to the previous system if needed. and there is > >> usually a previous-previous system I could use as well.. Don't want > >> to waste the time on a virtual system. > >> > >> - > > unfortunately dont have disk enough for that, I try out in a VM and if > > not happy decides to wait until things are stable. > > > But.... But... Disks are terribly cheap these days... Like $74 for > 2TB. I have two of those drives I am using for backup. And two of them > in the machine... The backups are placed in a cheep USB external dock. > > > > > > > > And realise I must have been tired when I upgraded my experience by > > nearly 10 years, make that "over 30 years" instead of 40. > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Apr 3 22:08:21 2015 From: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk (Sid Boyce) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 23:08:21 +0100 Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 123, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <551F0F55.1000805@blueyonder.co.uk> On 03/04/15 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Well I tend to tinker as well, I have about 40 years experience so not a > noob. But when it comes to my production system I "tinker" in a VM with > new stuff, especially beta. May be I am lucky, just shy of 45 years experience, just over 23 years with Linux starting with Linus' first kernel on an old Toshiba laptop with 2 floppy drives and I have always used bleeding edge even on the corporation's laptop with only Linux installed and I have never had a problem to stop me using Linux for all work tasks including presentations, working with Mainframes and Sun Solaris Enterprise boxes. At work there was always a Linux solution for operating in a sea of Windows, Citrix IPA client for Linux, Cisco VPN client for Linux, Staroffice and lots more including Lotus Notes for mail running under wine. I install once and do progressive upgrades. I only do a fresh install if I have a new hard drive for x86_64 or with new ARM boards. Only yesterday on a new laptop that came with Windows 7, I swapped out the hard drive and installed openSUSE. NetworkManager set up my Wifi connection painlessly. Everything works, so easy compared to the early days when X modelines had to be calculated using a ruler to measure the screen dimensions, a calculator to calculate the values using the dimensions and the monitor manual for specs and fiddling with the numbers to get a good display. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks From reb68 at att.net Fri Apr 3 23:23:28 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 19:23:28 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 Message-ID: <551F20F0.1060804@att.net> I just cannot get the sddm thing working. I have in Grub windows XP, Kubuntu 14.10, and Kubuntu 15.04 that will not open past the Login screen. I tried all the fixes for that bug but none seem to work. If I wanted to install a newer daily build is that bug fixed? If yes what is my best way to install in? Go to 14.10 and burn an iso, And then go to where the 15.04 is installed and run it. Or is there a better way? Or wait for the final release and burn it? I am open to all suggestions. Just need help. Thank You. Dick Barmann From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri Apr 3 23:58:25 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (bmarsh at bmarsh.com) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 19:58:25 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <551F20F0.1060804@att.net> References: <551F20F0.1060804@att.net> Message-ID: <7FD7B856-34AB-4A7B-94ED-B6124A4966D4@bmarsh.com> Maybe you could describe your computer and video setup. And i guess you do get to the login screen. Can you then enter your login info and hit ENTER? And then the screen goes blank? At that point (blank screen). How about trying a CTL-ALT with an F2. And see if you don't get a terminal login.. And lets go from there. > On Apr 3, 2015, at 7:23 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: > > I just cannot get the sddm thing working. I have in Grub windows XP, Kubuntu 14.10, and Kubuntu 15.04 that will not open past the Login screen. I tried all the fixes for that bug but none seem to work. If I wanted to install a newer daily build is that bug fixed? If yes what is my best way to install in? Go to 14.10 and burn an iso, And then go to where the 15.04 is installed and run it. Or is there a better way? Or wait for the final release and burn it? I am open to all suggestions. Just need help. > > Thank You. > Dick Barmann > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From reb68 at att.net Sat Apr 4 02:26:13 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 22:26:13 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 Message-ID: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> After I log in I get the next screen which has a band across the middle and a line that shows it is loading something. Then I get the blank screen. I can get to the terminal and Login to it. At that point I tried the solutions shown in the Bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1431332. Is there a place I can get the info about my PC. : Video, Hard Drives., Memory? Dick Barmann From clay at claydoh.com Sat Apr 4 02:41:41 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 22:41:41 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> Message-ID: <3086973.8zfCpl22p2@jake-latitude-d630> On Friday, April 03, 2015 10:26:13 PM Richard Barmann wrote: > After I log in I get the next screen which has a band across the middle > and a line that shows it is loading something. Then I get the blank > screen. I can get to the terminal and Login to it. At that point I tried > the solutions shown in the Bug at > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1431332. > > Is there a place I can get the info about my PC. : Video, Hard Drives., > Memory? > > Dick Barmann Since you are actually getting a desktop (albeit without plasma running), you can try this: alt-f2 to bring up Krunner, and type in 'plasmashell' This will restart the desktop part of KDE. My guess is that Plasma crashed; this is what provides your desktop things, such as wallpaper, widgets, taskbar, etc. If this does brings up your desktop, you should try updating your system to see if this fixes this permanently. In older versions of Plasma5 and Frameworks5, I had this happen, and usually once Plasma was up and running, it would be fine afterward. Also note that using Krunner, you can still run applications if you need/want to, even without Plamsa running. -- Clay Weber From reb68 at att.net Sat Apr 4 03:31:42 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 23:31:42 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <3086973.8zfCpl22p2@jake-latitude-d630> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <3086973.8zfCpl22p2@jake-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <551F5B1E.5030000@att.net> On 04/03/2015 10:41 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > On Friday, April 03, 2015 10:26:13 PM Richard Barmann wrote: >> After I log in I get the next screen which has a band across the middle >> and a line that shows it is loading something. Then I get the blank >> screen. I can get to the terminal and Login to it. At that point I tried >> the solutions shown in the Bug at >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1431332. >> >> Is there a place I can get the info about my PC. : Video, Hard Drives., >> Memory? >> >> Dick Barmann > Since you are actually getting a desktop (albeit without plasma running), you > can try this: > > alt-f2 to bring up Krunner, and type in 'plasmashell' > This will restart the desktop part of KDE. > > My guess is that Plasma crashed; this is what provides your desktop things, > such as wallpaper, widgets, taskbar, etc. If this does brings up your > desktop, you should try updating your system to see if this fixes this > permanently. In older versions of Plasma5 and Frameworks5, I had this happen, > and usually once Plasma was up and running, it would be fine afterward. > > Also note that using Krunner, you can still run applications if you need/want > to, even without Plamsa running. > I get nothing with Alt/F2. With Ctrl/Alt/F2 I get a terminal. If I type in krunner I get ---------------- QXcbConnection Could not connect to display Aborted (Core Dumped) -------------------- I am letting it boot up to the second screen (next after the login) and then trying Alt/F2. I guess I am doing something wrong. Dick Barmann From clay at claydoh.com Sat Apr 4 03:48:35 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 23:48:35 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <551F5B1E.5030000@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <3086973.8zfCpl22p2@jake-latitude-d630> <551F5B1E.5030000@att.net> Message-ID: <3750835.CamHJM1SPk@jake-latitude-d630> On Friday, April 03, 2015 11:31:42 PM Richard Barmann wrote: > On 04/03/2015 10:41 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > > On Friday, April 03, 2015 10:26:13 PM Richard Barmann wrote: > >> After I log in I get the next screen which has a band across the middle > >> and a line that shows it is loading something. Then I get the blank > >> screen. I can get to the terminal and Login to it. At that point I tried > >> the solutions shown in the Bug at > >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1431332. > >> > >> Is there a place I can get the info about my PC. : Video, Hard Drives., > >> Memory? > >> > >> Dick Barmann > > > > Since you are actually getting a desktop (albeit without plasma running), > > you can try this: > > > > alt-f2 to bring up Krunner, and type in 'plasmashell' > > This will restart the desktop part of KDE. > > > > My guess is that Plasma crashed; this is what provides your desktop > > things, > > such as wallpaper, widgets, taskbar, etc. If this does brings up your > > desktop, you should try updating your system to see if this fixes this > > permanently. In older versions of Plasma5 and Frameworks5, I had this > > happen, and usually once Plasma was up and running, it would be fine > > afterward. > > > > Also note that using Krunner, you can still run applications if you > > need/want to, even without Plamsa running. > > I get nothing with Alt/F2. Ok, nit good, probably > With Ctrl/Alt/F2 I get a terminal. If I type > in krunner I get > ---------------- > QXcbConnection Could not connect to display > Aborted (Core Dumped) This is correct, as while you are in the vt (virtual terminal) you are not "connected" to the graphics bit; in this environment, you would have to modify the command to specify where the display is. This is why I suggested krunner. > -------------------- > I am letting it boot up to the second screen (next after the login) and > then trying Alt/F2. I guess I am doing something wrong. No, I don't know what it could be, though. You could and see if opening programs from krunner works.. You don't have to know the exact name, but if you type in 'muon' or 'software', it will show the different programs that deal with this subject, and you can use the gui to update your system, if you don't wish to do so using the command line. You could also use krunnrer to open Konsole and try running 'plasmashell' from there and see if there are any error messages. L4 - Same as R4. - select dupes Utility Rating N/AOTSRRUV Page Quality Rating N/ALowestLowMediumHighHighest Porn: NoForeign Language: NoDid Not Load: NoComment L5 - Same as R5. - select dupes > Dick Barmann -- Clay Weber From reb68 at att.net Sat Apr 4 04:22:55 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 00:22:55 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <3750835.CamHJM1SPk@jake-latitude-d630> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <3086973.8zfCpl22p2@jake-latitude-d630> <551F5B1E.5030000@att.net> <3750835.CamHJM1SPk@jake-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <551F671F.2060905@att.net> On 04/03/2015 11:48 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > On Friday, April 03, 2015 11:31:42 PM Richard Barmann wrote: >> On 04/03/2015 10:41 PM, Clay Weber wrote: >>> On Friday, April 03, 2015 10:26:13 PM Richard Barmann wrote: >>>> After I log in I get the next screen which has a band across the middle >>>> and a line that shows it is loading something. Then I get the blank >>>> screen. I can get to the terminal and Login to it. At that point I tried >>>> the solutions shown in the Bug at >>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1431332. >>>> >>>> Is there a place I can get the info about my PC. : Video, Hard Drives., >>>> Memory? >>>> >>>> Dick Barmann >>> Since you are actually getting a desktop (albeit without plasma running), >>> you can try this: >>> >>> alt-f2 to bring up Krunner, and type in 'plasmashell' >>> This will restart the desktop part of KDE. >>> >>> My guess is that Plasma crashed; this is what provides your desktop >>> things, >>> such as wallpaper, widgets, taskbar, etc. If this does brings up your >>> desktop, you should try updating your system to see if this fixes this >>> permanently. In older versions of Plasma5 and Frameworks5, I had this >>> happen, and usually once Plasma was up and running, it would be fine >>> afterward. >>> >>> Also note that using Krunner, you can still run applications if you >>> need/want to, even without Plamsa running. >> I get nothing with Alt/F2. > Ok, nit good, probably >> With Ctrl/Alt/F2 I get a terminal. If I type >> in krunner I get >> ---------------- >> QXcbConnection Could not connect to display >> Aborted (Core Dumped) > This is correct, as while you are in the vt (virtual terminal) you are not > "connected" to the graphics bit; in this environment, you would have to modify > the command to specify where the display is. This is why I suggested krunner. > >> -------------------- >> I am letting it boot up to the second screen (next after the login) and >> then trying Alt/F2. I guess I am doing something wrong. > No, I don't know what it could be, though. > You could and see if opening programs from krunner works.. You don't have to > know the exact name, but if you type in 'muon' or 'software', it will show > the different programs that deal with this subject, and you can use the gui to > update your system, if you don't wish to do so using the command line. > > You could also use krunnrer to open Konsole and try running 'plasmashell' from > there and see if there are any error messages. > L4 - Same as R4. - select dupes > Utility Rating > N/AOTSRRUV > Page Quality Rating > N/ALowestLowMediumHighHighest > Porn: NoForeign Language: NoDid Not Load: NoComment > L5 - Same as R5. - select dupes > >> Dick Barmann > I do not know why I cannot get into krunner. Am I doing Atl/F2 at the wrong stage of booting up. I am waiting until it stops and goes to a blank screen.I can Login there but do not know how to get krunner. Ctrl/Alt/F2 take me to the login but that is not a Terminal/Konsole. Dick Barmann From clay at claydoh.com Sat Apr 4 04:47:06 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 00:47:06 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <551F671F.2060905@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <3750835.CamHJM1SPk@jake-latitude-d630> <551F671F.2060905@att.net> Message-ID: <1845230.E2MzD7TXWN@jake-latitude-d630> On Saturday, April 04, 2015 12:22:55 AM Richard Barmann wrote: > On 04/03/2015 11:48 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > > On Friday, April 03, 2015 11:31:42 PM Richard Barmann wrote: > >> On 04/03/2015 10:41 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > >>> On Friday, April 03, 2015 10:26:13 PM Richard Barmann wrote: > >>>> After I log in I get the next screen which has a band across the middle > >>>> and a line that shows it is loading something. Then I get the blank > >>>> screen. I can get to the terminal and Login to it. At that point I > >>>> tried > >>>> the solutions shown in the Bug at > >>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1431332. > >>>> > >>>> Is there a place I can get the info about my PC. : Video, Hard Drives., > >>>> Memory? > >>>> > >>>> Dick Barmann > >>> > >>> Since you are actually getting a desktop (albeit without plasma > >>> running), > >>> you can try this: > >>> > >>> alt-f2 to bring up Krunner, and type in 'plasmashell' > >>> This will restart the desktop part of KDE. > >>> > >>> My guess is that Plasma crashed; this is what provides your desktop > >>> things, > >>> such as wallpaper, widgets, taskbar, etc. If this does brings up your > >>> desktop, you should try updating your system to see if this fixes this > >>> permanently. In older versions of Plasma5 and Frameworks5, I had this > >>> happen, and usually once Plasma was up and running, it would be fine > >>> afterward. > >>> > >>> Also note that using Krunner, you can still run applications if you > >>> need/want to, even without Plamsa running. > >> > >> I get nothing with Alt/F2. > > > > Ok, nit good, probably > > > >> With Ctrl/Alt/F2 I get a terminal. If I type > >> in krunner I get > >> ---------------- > >> QXcbConnection Could not connect to display > >> Aborted (Core Dumped) > > > > This is correct, as while you are in the vt (virtual terminal) you are not > > "connected" to the graphics bit; in this environment, you would have to > > modify the command to specify where the display is. This is why I > > suggested krunner.> > >> -------------------- > >> I am letting it boot up to the second screen (next after the login) and > >> then trying Alt/F2. I guess I am doing something wrong. > > > > No, I don't know what it could be, though. > > You could and see if opening programs from krunner works.. You don't have > > to know the exact name, but if you type in 'muon' or 'software', it will > > show the different programs that deal with this subject, and you can use > > the gui to update your system, if you don't wish to do so using the > > command line. > > > > You could also use krunnrer to open Konsole and try running 'plasmashell' > > from there and see if there are any error messages. > > L4 - Same as R4. - select dupes > > Utility Rating > > N/AOTSRRUV > > Page Quality Rating > > N/ALowestLowMediumHighHighest > > Porn: NoForeign Language: NoDid Not Load: NoComment > > L5 - Same as R5. - select dupes > > > >> Dick Barmann > > > > I do not know why I cannot get into krunner. Am I doing Atl/F2 at the > > wrong stage of booting up. I am waiting until it stops and goes to a > > blank screen.I can Login there but do not know how to get krunner. > > Ctrl/Alt/F2 take me to the login but that is not a Terminal/Konsole. > Dick Barmann Apologies here, I had thought that you were able to open krunner, and that the 'plasmashell' command simply did not work. -- Clay Weber From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Apr 4 06:37:19 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 08:37:19 +0200 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <5642D748-16F5-4A6C-9C85-8C0934EDCD13@bmarsh.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> <551D8D71.6000106@bmarsh.com> <551DA8BF.1030804@gmail.com> <551DAD98.40400@bmarsh.com> <551E1F42.6000209@gmail.com> <5642D748-16F5-4A6C-9C85-8C0934EDCD13@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <551F869F.5080007@gmail.com> On 03/04/2015 15:55, bmarsh at bmarsh.com wrote: >> On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:04 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> >>> On 02/04/2015 22:59, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>>> On 04/02/2015 04:38 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: >>>> Well I tend to tinker as well, I have about 40 years experience so not a >>>> noob. But when it comes to my production system I "tinker" in a VM with >>>> new stuff, especially beta. >>> >>> When loading a new release, beta or not, I always use new partitions >>> and can then re-boot to the previous system if needed. and there is >>> usually a previous-previous system I could use as well.. Don't want >>> to waste the time on a virtual system. >>> >>> - >> unfortunately dont have disk enough for that, I try out in a VM and if >> not happy decides to wait until things are stable. >> > But.... But... Disks are terribly cheap these days... Like $74 for 2TB. I have two of those drives I am using for backup. And two of them in the machine... The backups are placed in a cheep USB external dock. > Maybe where you reside that is true, not here. I am looking at around US100 for a 500 Gb USB disk (as I use laptop that would be the option) and I rather use that money for other things. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Apr 4 13:01:52 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (bmarsh at bmarsh.com) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2015 09:01:52 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> Message-ID: <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> > On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:26 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: > > After I log in I get the next screen which has a band across the middle and a line that shows it is loading something. Then I get the blank screen. I can get to the terminal and Login to it. At that point I tried the solutions shown in the Bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1431332. > > Is there a place I can get the info about my PC. : Video, Hard Drives., Memory? > > Dick Barmann There used to be a nifty program called "hwinfo" but for some reason they removed it. Does anyone know of a similar program? In the meantime, why don't you apply updates to your system from the terminal screen. Two commands will do it: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Apr 4 13:31:18 2015 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 08:31:18 -0500 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <551F869F.5080007@gmail.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> <551D8D71.6000106@bmarsh.com> <551DA8BF.1030804@gmail.com> <551DAD98.40400@bmarsh.com> <551E1F42.6000209@gmail.com> <5642D748-16F5-4A6C-9C85-8C0934EDCD13@bmarsh.com> <551F869F.5080007@gmail.com> Message-ID: <551FE7A6.1010407@swbell.net> On 04/04/2015 01:37 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > Maybe where you reside that is true, not here. I am looking at around > US100 for a 500 Gb USB disk (as I use laptop that would be the option) > and I rather use that money for other things. Newegg is selling a Seagate 1TB USB 3.0 external hard drive for 59.99US and says free shipping. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178744&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=EXPRESS040415&nm_mc=EMC-EXPRESS040415&cm_mmc=EMC-EXPRESS040415-_-EMC-040415-Index-_-GarbageRecyclingGroundsMaintenance-_-22178744-L03D http://tinyurl.com/od2ttzr From reb68 at att.net Sat Apr 4 15:01:31 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 11:01:31 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> On 04/04/2015 09:01 AM, bmarsh at bmarsh.com wrote: > > > > >> On Apr 3, 2015, at 10:26 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >> >> After I log in I get the next screen which has a band across the middle and a line that shows it is loading something. Then I get the blank screen. I can get to the terminal and Login to it. At that point I tried the solutions shown in the Bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1431332. >> >> Is there a place I can get the info about my PC. : Video, Hard Drives., Memory? >> >> Dick Barmann > There used to be a nifty program called "hwinfo" but for some reason they removed it. > > Does anyone know of a similar program? > > In the meantime, why don't you apply updates to your system from the terminal screen. > > Two commands will do it: > > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get upgrade > > > I did the apt-get update and the upgrade. It loaded the update/upgrade and when I restarted it took a long time to get to the login screen. Messages about waiting 120 seconds to do different actions. But when it got to the login screen and the next screen it went blank again just like before. I am very frustrated with this. Is there away to go back to 14.10 and start over. I have it on a iso disk. My problem is I do not know how to partition if I need to in a install. That is why a upgrade is better for me. Thank you for trying to help, Dick Barmann From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Apr 4 17:14:05 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 13:14:05 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> Message-ID: <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> On 04/04/2015 11:01 AM, Richard Barmann wrote: > I did the apt-get update and the upgrade. It loaded the update/upgrade > and when I restarted it took a long time to get to the login screen. > Messages about waiting 120 seconds to do different actions. But when > it got to the login screen and the next screen it went blank again > just like before. I am very frustrated with this. Is there away to go > back to 14.10 and start over. I have it on a iso disk. My problem is I > do not know how to partition if I need to in a install. That is why a > upgrade is better for me. > Thank you for trying to help, > Dick Barmann You never did mention any info about your computer....! I found an equivalent program to list your hardware (hardinfo) but it uses a gui screen so it would work for you are the moment. Try this: if you can boot, and then get to a terminal screen (where you did the update/upgrade), issue the following: service sddm stop <--- shuts down the sddm program service lightdm start <--- starts lightdm instead of sddm If there is a problem with sddm, that would give you a try with a different window manager. But this must be something peculiar to you graphics setup... so please give us that info... (but maybe you don't know what hardware you have) -- "... the most important thing in any relationship is not what you get, but what you give." Eleanor Roosevelt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Sat Apr 4 18:49:06 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 20:49:06 +0200 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> bmarsh at bmarsh.com wrote: > There used to be a nifty program called "hwinfo" but for some reason > they removed it. > > Does anyone know of a similar program? I don't know "hwinfo" but how about "lshw"? OTOH I don't know if that is also removed from 15.04 (I'm still using 14.04). Nils From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Apr 4 20:02:47 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 16:02:47 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> Message-ID: <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> On 04/04/2015 02:49 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > bmarsh at bmarsh.com wrote: >> There used to be a nifty program called "hwinfo" but for some reason >> they removed it. >> >> Does anyone know of a similar program? > I don't know "hwinfo" but how about "lshw"? OTOH I don't know if that is > also removed from 15.04 (I'm still using 14.04). > > > Nils > > That's one I didn't know about...(lshw) and it is in 15.04. Pretty good except that 'hwinfo' was able to output specific devices if asked (gfx, disk, memory), which cut down on the info. I also found "hardinfo" in 15.04 but it seems that requires a GUI. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Apr 4 20:20:40 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 16:20:40 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> Message-ID: <55204798.60407@bmarsh.com> On 04/04/2015 02:49 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > bmarsh at bmarsh.com wrote: >> There used to be a nifty program called "hwinfo" but for some reason >> they removed it. >> >> Does anyone know of a similar program? > I don't know "hwinfo" but how about "lshw"? OTOH I don't know if that is > also removed from 15.04 (I'm still using 14.04). > > > Nils > > I just got "hwinfo" to work on 15.04 (and I've had it working on older releases as well) by copying 3 files. Will be happy to send those files to anyone that is interested. (this was on a 64 bit machine) Sample output for graphics: Konsole output hwinfo --gfx [Created at pci.318] Unique ID: VCu0.Bjtk0E1veY9 Parent ID: _Znp.KH_x94ezG+8 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/0000:01:00.0 SysFS BusID: 0000:01:00.0 Hardware Class: graphics card Model: "nVidia VGA compatible controller" Vendor: pci 0x10de "nVidia Corporation" Device: pci 0x0641 Revision: 0xa1 Driver: "nouveau" Driver Modules: "drm" Memory Range: 0xfd000000-0xfdffffff (rw,non-prefetchable) Memory Range: 0xd0000000-0xdfffffff (ro,non-prefetchable) Memory Range: 0xfa000000-0xfbffffff (rw,non-prefetchable) I/O Ports: 0xa800-0xa87f (rw) Memory Range: 0xfe880000-0xfe8fffff (ro,non-prefetchable,disabled) IRQ: 28 (204647 events) I/O Ports: 0x3c0-0x3df (rw) Module Alias: "pci:v000010DEd00000641sv00000000sd00000000bc03sc00i00" Driver Info #0: Driver Status: nvidiafb is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nvidiafb" Driver Info #1: Driver Status: nouveau is active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe nouveau" Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #9 (PCI bridge) Primary display adapter: #30 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reb68 at att.net Sat Apr 4 23:26:26 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 19:26:26 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <55207322.8010609@att.net> On 04/04/2015 01:14 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/04/2015 11:01 AM, Richard Barmann wrote: >> I did the apt-get update and the upgrade. It loaded the >> update/upgrade and when I restarted it took a long time to get to the >> login screen. Messages about waiting 120 seconds to do different >> actions. But when it got to the login screen and the next screen it >> went blank again just like before. I am very frustrated with this. Is >> there away to go back to 14.10 and start over. I have it on a iso >> disk. My problem is I do not know how to partition if I need to in a >> install. That is why a upgrade is better for me. >> Thank you for trying to help, >> Dick Barmann > > You never did mention any info about your computer....! I found an > equivalent program to list your hardware (hardinfo) but it uses a gui > screen so it would work for you are the moment. > > Try this: if you can boot, and then get to a terminal screen (where > you did the update/upgrade), issue the following: > > service sddm stop <--- shuts down the sddm program > > service lightdm start <--- starts lightdm instead of sddm > > If there is a problem with sddm, that would give you a try with a > different window manager. > > But this must be something peculiar to you graphics setup... so please > give us that info... (but maybe you don't know what hardware you have) > > The above did not help. I have a Geforce 6200 Vidio Card. 160 GiB drive /ntfs 58.69 Used 55.69/Linux Swap 3.72 Gib/ Ext4 Home 65.67 Used 36.21/Ext4 21.06 Used 7.98 74.53 GiB drive Ext4 53.90 Used 36.17/Extended 21.13 Used 21.13/ Ext4 19.13 used 12.37/Linux Swap 2.00 If you need more info please tell me how to get it. Thank You Dick Barmann > > -- > "... the most important thing in any relationship is not what you get, but what you give." Eleanor Roosevelt > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My problem is I do not know how to partition if I need to in a >>> install. That is why a upgrade is better for me. >>> Thank you for trying to help, >>> Dick Barmann >> >> You never did mention any info about your computer....! I found an >> equivalent program to list your hardware (hardinfo) but it uses a gui >> screen so it would work for you are the moment. >> >> Try this: if you can boot, and then get to a terminal screen (where >> you did the update/upgrade), issue the following: >> >> service sddm stop <--- shuts down the sddm program >> >> service lightdm start <--- starts lightdm instead of sddm >> >> If there is a problem with sddm, that would give you a try with a >> different window manager. >> >> But this must be something peculiar to you graphics setup... so >> please give us that info... (but maybe you don't know what hardware >> you have) >> >> The above did not help. I have a Geforce 6200 Vidio Card. > 160 GiB drive /ntfs 58.69 Used 55.69/Linux Swap 3.72 Gib/ Ext4 Home > 65.67 Used 36.21/Ext4 21.06 Used 7.98 > 74.53 GiB drive Ext4 53.90 Used 36.17/Extended 21.13 Used 21.13/ > Ext4 19.13 used 12.37/Linux Swap 2.00 > If you need more info please tell me how to get it. Thank You > Dick Barmann > When you boot up, do you get the grub screen to start with.... where you can hit enter to continue the boot or it will say "booting in 10 seconds" ??? Need this to detemine if you can edit the boot line with some added parms. -- Mrs. Weiler's Law: "Anything is edible if it is chopped finely enough." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reb68 at att.net Sun Apr 5 01:23:10 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 21:23:10 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <55207598.2090801@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> <55207322.8010609@att.net> <55207598.2090801@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <55208E7E.2050501@att.net> On 04/04/2015 07:36 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/04/2015 07:26 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >> On 04/04/2015 01:14 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>> On 04/04/2015 11:01 AM, Richard Barmann wrote: >>>> I did the apt-get update and the upgrade. It loaded the >>>> update/upgrade and when I restarted it took a long time to get to >>>> the login screen. Messages about waiting 120 seconds to do >>>> different actions. But when it got to the login screen and the next >>>> screen it went blank again just like before. I am very frustrated >>>> with this. Is there away to go back to 14.10 and start over. I have >>>> it on a iso disk. My problem is I do not know how to partition if I >>>> need to in a install. That is why a upgrade is better for me. >>>> Thank you for trying to help, >>>> Dick Barmann >>> >>> You never did mention any info about your computer....! I found an >>> equivalent program to list your hardware (hardinfo) but it uses a >>> gui screen so it would work for you are the moment. >>> >>> Try this: if you can boot, and then get to a terminal screen >>> (where you did the update/upgrade), issue the following: >>> >>> service sddm stop <--- shuts down the sddm program >>> >>> service lightdm start <--- starts lightdm instead of sddm >>> >>> If there is a problem with sddm, that would give you a try with a >>> different window manager. >>> >>> But this must be something peculiar to you graphics setup... so >>> please give us that info... (but maybe you don't know what hardware >>> you have) >>> >>> The above did not help. I have a Geforce 6200 Vidio Card. >> 160 GiB drive /ntfs 58.69 Used 55.69/Linux Swap 3.72 Gib/ Ext4 Home >> 65.67 Used 36.21/Ext4 21.06 Used 7.98 >> 74.53 GiB drive Ext4 53.90 Used 36.17/Extended 21.13 Used 21.13/ >> Ext4 19.13 used 12.37/Linux Swap 2.00 >> If you need more info please tell me how to get it. Thank You >> Dick Barmann >> > > When you boot up, do you get the grub screen to start with.... where > you can hit enter to continue the boot or it will say "booting in 10 > seconds" ??? > > Need this to detemine if you can edit the boot line with some added parms. > > Yes I get the Grub screen. I have to pick Version 14..10 to read your > Emails and then boot up again to get to Version 15.04 to try the > fixes. I think I can get a Comand Line in Grub plus several other > choices. I really appreciate the time all of you are puting in to help > me solve this. I was just used to calling my friend, Robbie, and he > would tell me what to do or how to get the Info needed to solve it. > After he died I found I did not know that much about Linux because he > was always there Dick Barmann > > > > > -- > Mrs. Weiler's Law: > "Anything is edible if it is chopped finely enough." > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Apr 5 01:50:49 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 21:50:49 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <55208E7E.2050501@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> <55207322.8010609@att.net> <55207598.2090801@bmarsh.com> <55208E7E.2050501@att.net> Message-ID: <552094F9.9030604@bmarsh.com> On 04/04/2015 09:23 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >> >> Yes I get the Grub screen. I have to pick Version 14..10 to read your >> Emails and then boot up again to get to Version 15.04 to try the >> fixes. I think I can get a Comand Line in Grub plus several other >> choices. I really appreciate the time all of you are puting in to >> help me solve this. I was just used to calling my friend, Robbie, and >> he would tell me what to do or how to get the Info needed to solve >> it. After he died I found I did not know that much about Linux >> because he was always there Ok, try this. I haven't had time to research it all, but it will be temporary and won't hurt anything if it doesn't work. 1) Boot to the grub screen 2) Press 'e' (for edit) 3) You will see a 'boot sequence' and near the bottom (about the 2nd line from the bottom) you will see a 'linux' line that has your kernel mentioned. My linux line looks like: Konsole output linux /vmlinuz-3.19.0-12-generic root=UUID=8ac4a47b-5ba7-4dac-b259-5e4c87045518 ro vga=795 We're only concerned with the end part: yours will probably have ro quiet splash replace the 'quiet splash' with the vga=795 If you know more about your screen resolution, you might use the appropriate value from the chart below. *VGA Resolution and Color Depth reference Chart:* *Depth* *800×600* *1024×768* *1152×864* *1280×1024* *1600×1200* 8 bit vga=771 vga=773 vga=353 vga=775 vga=796 16 bit vga=788 vga=791 vga=355 vga=794 vga=798 24 bit vga=789 vga=792 vga=795 vga=799 4) After the changes, press F10 to boot. Hope it does better for you. You might also try vga=normal but I am not sure that is used anymore. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Apr 5 02:27:42 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:27:42 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <552094F9.9030604@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> <55207322.8010609@att.net> <55207598.2090801@bmarsh.com> <55208E7E.2050501@att.net> <552094F9.9030604@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <55209D9E.5000404@bmarsh.com> On 04/04/2015 09:50 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > Yes I get the Grub screen. I have to pick Version 14..10 to read your > Emails and then boot up again to get to Version 15.04 to try the > fixes. I think I can get a Comand Line in Grub plus several other > choices. I really appreciate the time all of you are puting in to help > me solve this. I was just used to calling my friend, Robbie, and he > would tell me what to do or how to get the Info needed to solve it. > After he died I found I did not know that much about Linux because he > was always there Here's something else to try: 1) get yourself to the terminal screen. (as before) 2) Enter: sudo adduser test after entering the new password twice, the rest can just be the ENTER key. 3) sudo service sddm stop sudo service sddm start 4) Try to login as user 'test' There may be something in your /home directory that is causing this problem, so trying a new user would eliminate that possibility. BTW, I don't use 'sudo' on my system since I run as real root.... so I think in some previous instructions you would have to add the 'sudo' Just be aware I might forget it. -- "I came, I saw, I did a little shopping." From reb68 at att.net Sun Apr 5 02:29:32 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:29:32 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <552094F9.9030604@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> <55207322.8010609@att.net> <55207598.2090801@bmarsh.com> <55208E7E.2050501@att.net> <552094F9.9030604@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <55209E0C.9000408@att.net> On 04/04/2015 09:50 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/04/2015 09:23 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >>> >>> Yes I get the Grub screen. I have to pick Version 14..10 to read >>> your Emails and then boot up again to get to Version 15.04 to try >>> the fixes. I think I can get a Comand Line in Grub plus several >>> other choices. I really appreciate the time all of you are puting in >>> to help me solve this. I was just used to calling my friend, Robbie, >>> and he would tell me what to do or how to get the Info needed to >>> solve it. After he died I found I did not know that much about Linux >>> because he was always there > > Ok, try this. I haven't had time to research it all, but it will be > temporary and won't hurt anything if it doesn't work. > > 1) Boot to the grub screen > > 2) Press 'e' (for edit) > > 3) You will see a 'boot sequence' and near the bottom (about the 2nd > line from the bottom) you will see a 'linux' line that has your kernel > mentioned. > > My linux line looks like: > Konsole output > linux /vmlinuz-3.19.0-12-generic > root=UUID=8ac4a47b-5ba7-4dac-b259-5e4c87045518 ro vga=795 > > > We're only concerned with the end part: yours will probably have > ro quiet splash > > replace the 'quiet splash' with the vga=795 > > If you know more about your screen resolution, you might use the > appropriate value from the chart below. > > > *VGA Resolution and Color Depth reference Chart:* > > *Depth* *800×600* *1024×768* *1152×864* *1280×1024* *1600×1200* > 8 bit vga=771 vga=773 vga=353 vga=775 vga=796 > 16 bit vga=788 vga=791 vga=355 vga=794 vga=798 > 24 bit vga=789 vga=792 vga=795 vga=799 > > > 4) After the changes, press F10 to boot. > > > Hope it does better for you. > > > You might also try vga=normal but I am not sure that is used anymore. > > I did the above two times but it did not save it. When I go back in it is back on quiet splash This error showed up when I opened Thunderbird this time. Is it related and how to save the change in grub. ------------------ Error launching /usr/share/applications/thunderbird.desktop. Either KLauncher is not running anymore, or it failed to start the application. ----------------- Dick Barmann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Apr 5 03:00:39 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 23:00:39 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <55209E0C.9000408@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> <55207322.8010609@att.net> <55207598.2090801@bmarsh.com> <55208E7E.2050501@att.net> <552094F9.9030604@bmarsh.com> <55209E0C.9000408@att.net> Message-ID: <5520A557.4000707@bmarsh.com> On 04/04/2015 10:29 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >> > I did the above two times but it did not save it. When I go back in it > is back on quiet splash > > This error showed up when I opened Thunderbird this time. Is it > related and how to save the change in grub. > ------------------ > > Error launching /usr/share/applications/thunderbird.desktop. Either > KLauncher is not running anymore, or it failed to start the application. > ----------------- > Dick Barmann > 1) Yes, I said it was temporary.... and so it will not save it.. (but we can make it permanent when you find out what works) You can boot once with the edited settings. 2) WHOOOAAAAA! How are you attempting to start T-bird??? I thought you weren't getting past the login screen.... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Apr 5 03:03:38 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 23:03:38 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5520A557.4000707@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> <55207322.8010609@att.net> <55207598.2090801@bmarsh.com> <55208E7E.2050501@att.net> <552094F9.9030604@bmarsh.com> <55209E0C.9000408@att.net> <5520A557.4000707@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <5520A60A.3000700@bmarsh.com> On 04/04/2015 11:00 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/04/2015 10:29 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >>> >> I did the above two times but it did not save it. When I go back in >> it is back on quiet splash >> >> This error showed up when I opened Thunderbird this time. Is it >> related and how to save the change in grub. >> ------------------ >> >> Error launching /usr/share/applications/thunderbird.desktop. Either >> KLauncher is not running anymore, or it failed to start the application. >> ----------------- >> Dick Barmann >> > > 1) Yes, I said it was temporary.... and so it will not save it.. > (but we can make it permanent when you find out what works) You can > boot once with the edited settings. > > > 2) WHOOOAAAAA! How are you attempting to start T-bird??? I > thought you weren't getting past the login screen.... > > > > > Going nite now but will be around in the morning.... EDT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reb68 at att.net Sun Apr 5 03:12:25 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 23:12:25 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5520A60A.3000700@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> <55207322.8010609@att.net> <55207598.2090801@bmarsh.com> <55208E7E.2050501@att.net> <552094F9.9030604@bmarsh.com> <55209E0C.9000408@att.net> <5520A557.4000707@bmarsh.com> <5520A60A.3000700@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <5520A819.7050503@att.net> On 04/04/2015 11:03 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/04/2015 11:00 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >> On 04/04/2015 10:29 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >>>> >>> I did the above two times but it did not save it. When I go back in >>> it is back on quiet splash >>> >>> This error showed up when I opened Thunderbird this time. Is it >>> related and how to save the change in grub. >>> ------------------ >>> >>> Error launching /usr/share/applications/thunderbird.desktop. Either >>> KLauncher is not running anymore, or it failed to start the application. >>> ----------------- >>> Dick Barmann >>> >> >> 1) Yes, I said it was temporary.... and so it will not save it.. >> (but we can make it permanent when you find out what works) You can >> boot once with the edited settings. >> >> >> 2) WHOOOAAAAA! How are you attempting to start T-bird??? I >> thought you weren't getting past the login screen.... >> >> I have Kubuntu 14.10 in Grub and Kubuntu 15.04 and Windows XP all in >> Grub. I have to go to 14.10 to read the Emails and then I print it >> and reboot in 15.04 and follow your instructions. Have a good night and thanks. Dick Barmann >> >> >> > > Going nite now but will be around in the morning.... EDT > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Apr 5 05:04:58 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 07:04:58 +0200 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <551FE7A6.1010407@swbell.net> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> <551D8D71.6000106@bmarsh.com> <551DA8BF.1030804@gmail.com> <551DAD98.40400@bmarsh.com> <551E1F42.6000209@gmail.com> <5642D748-16F5-4A6C-9C85-8C0934EDCD13@bmarsh.com> <551F869F.5080007@gmail.com> <551FE7A6.1010407@swbell.net> Message-ID: <5520C27A.2050702@gmail.com> On 04/04/2015 15:31, Billie Walsh wrote: > On 04/04/2015 01:37 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> Maybe where you reside that is true, not here. I am looking at around >> US100 for a 500 Gb USB disk (as I use laptop that would be the option) >> and I rather use that money for other things. > > Newegg is selling a Seagate 1TB USB 3.0 external hard drive for 59.99US > and says free shipping. > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178744&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=EXPRESS040415&nm_mc=EMC-EXPRESS040415&cm_mmc=EMC-EXPRESS040415-_-EMC-040415-Index-_-GarbageRecyclingGroundsMaintenance-_-22178744-L03D > > > http://tinyurl.com/od2ttzr > Something tells me the shipping to Zimbabwe is not free.... From kassube at gmx.net Sun Apr 5 05:42:37 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 07:42:37 +0200 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/04/2015 02:49 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > > I don't know "hwinfo" but how about "lshw"? OTOH I don't know if > > that is also removed from 15.04 (I'm still using 14.04). > > That's one I didn't know about...(lshw) and it is in 15.04. Pretty > good except that 'hwinfo' was able to output specific devices if > asked (gfx, disk, memory), which cut down on the info. sudo lshw -c display sudo lshw -c disk sudo lshw -c memory sudo lshw -c network ... :) Nils From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun Apr 5 12:43:34 2015 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 07:43:34 -0500 Subject: Plasma anyone? In-Reply-To: <5520C27A.2050702@gmail.com> References: <551AF372.5000206@bmarsh.com> <551C97BF.6020309@bmarsh.com> <551CBC54.10705@gmail.com> <3243A4EA-6563-41D1-AAE0-C5342F381955@bmarsh.com> <551D823F.80308@gmail.com> <551D8D71.6000106@bmarsh.com> <551DA8BF.1030804@gmail.com> <551DAD98.40400@bmarsh.com> <551E1F42.6000209@gmail.com> <5642D748-16F5-4A6C-9C85-8C0934EDCD13@bmarsh.com> <551F869F.5080007@gmail.com> <551FE7A6.1010407@swbell.net> <5520C27A.2050702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55212DF6.3030309@swbell.net> On 04/05/2015 12:04 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 04/04/2015 15:31, Billie Walsh wrote: >> On 04/04/2015 01:37 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >>> Maybe where you reside that is true, not here. I am looking at around >>> US100 for a 500 Gb USB disk (as I use laptop that would be the option) >>> and I rather use that money for other things. >> Newegg is selling a Seagate 1TB USB 3.0 external hard drive for 59.99US >> and says free shipping. >> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178744&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=EXPRESS040415&nm_mc=EMC-EXPRESS040415&cm_mmc=EMC-EXPRESS040415-_-EMC-040415-Index-_-GarbageRecyclingGroundsMaintenance-_-22178744-L03D >> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/od2ttzr >> > Something tells me the shipping to Zimbabwe is not free.... > You won't know if you never ask. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Apr 5 15:48:17 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 11:48:17 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5520A819.7050503@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> <55207322.8010609@att.net> <55207598.2090801@bmarsh.com> <55208E7E.2050501@att.net> <552094F9.9030604@bmarsh.com> <55209E0C.9000408@att.net> <5520A557.4000707@bmarsh.com> <5520A60A.3000700@bmarsh.com> <5520A819.7050503@att.net> Message-ID: <55215941.60902@bmarsh.com> On 04/04/2015 11:12 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >> >> > > Going nite now but will be around in the morning.... EDT > any progress?? Particularly trying to login as 'test'? -- "Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Apr 5 15:48:47 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 11:48:47 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> Message-ID: <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> On 04/05/2015 01:42 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Bruce Marshall wrote: >> On 04/04/2015 02:49 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> I don't know "hwinfo" but how about "lshw"? OTOH I don't know if >>> that is also removed from 15.04 (I'm still using 14.04). >> That's one I didn't know about...(lshw) and it is in 15.04. Pretty >> good except that 'hwinfo' was able to output specific devices if >> asked (gfx, disk, memory), which cut down on the info. > sudo lshw -c display > sudo lshw -c disk > sudo lshw -c memory > sudo lshw -c network > > ... :) Thanks for this.... > > -- "Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now." From reb68 at att.net Sun Apr 5 19:55:00 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 15:55:00 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <55215941.60902@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> <55207322.8010609@att.net> <55207598.2090801@bmarsh.com> <55208E7E.2050501@att.net> <552094F9.9030604@bmarsh.com> <55209E0C.9000408@att.net> <5520A557.4000707@bmarsh.com> <5520A60A.3000700@bmarsh.com> <5520A819.7050503@att.net> <55215941.60902@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <55219314.9090404@att.net> On 04/05/2015 11:48 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/04/2015 11:12 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >>> >>> >> >> Going nite now but will be around in the morning.... EDT >> > > > any progress?? Particularly trying to login as 'test'? > > Same result logging in at test. > -- > "Hard work has a future payoff. 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Thank you Sergio From reb68 at att.net Mon Apr 6 00:57:06 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 20:57:06 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> On 04/05/2015 11:48 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/05/2015 01:42 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: >> Bruce Marshall wrote: >>> On 04/04/2015 02:49 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>> I don't know "hwinfo" but how about "lshw"? OTOH I don't know if >>>> that is also removed from 15.04 (I'm still using 14.04). >>> That's one I didn't know about...(lshw) and it is in 15.04. Pretty >>> good except that 'hwinfo' was able to output specific devices if >>> asked (gfx, disk, memory), which cut down on the info. >> sudo lshw -c display >> sudo lshw -c disk >> sudo lshw -c memory >> sudo lshw -c network >> >> ... :) > Thanks for this.... > > ichard at richard-desktop:~$ sudo lshw -c display > *-display > description: VGA compatible controller > product: NV44A [GeForce 6200] > vendor: NVIDIA Corporation > physical id: 0 > bus info: pci at 0000:01:00.0 > version: a1 > width: 32 bits > clock: 66MHz > capabilities: pm agp agp-3.0 vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom > configuration: driver=nouveau latency=32 maxlatency=1 mingnt=5 > resources: irq:16 memory:fa000000-faffffff > memory:c0000000-dfffffff memory:fb000000-fbffffff memory:fc000000-fc01ffff > richard at richard-desktop:~$ sudo lshw -c disk > *-disk:0 > description: ATA Disk > product: MAXTOR STM316081 > vendor: Maxtor > physical id: 0.0.0 > bus info: scsi at 2:0.0.0 > logical name: /dev/sda > version: 3.AA > serial: 5LSB4GN8 > size: 149GiB (160GB) > capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos > configuration: ansiversion=5 sectorsize=512 signature=00000001 > *-disk:1 > description: ATA Disk > product: ST3802110A > vendor: Seagate > physical id: 0.1.0 > bus info: scsi at 2:0.1.0 > logical name: /dev/sdb > version: 2AAA > serial: 5LR0QCQR > size: 74GiB (80GB) > capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos > configuration: ansiversion=5 sectorsize=512 signature=386226f2 > *-cdrom:0 > description: DVD writer > product: DVD LS DW1655 > vendor: BENQ > physical id: 0.0.0 > bus info: scsi at 3:0.0.0 > logical name: /dev/cdrom > logical name: /dev/cdrw > logical name: /dev/dvd > logical name: /dev/dvdrw > logical name: /dev/sr0 > version: BCDB > capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r > configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc > *-cdrom:1 > description: CD-R/CD-RW writer > physical id: 0.1.0 > bus info: scsi at 3:0.1.0 > logical name: /dev/sr1 > capabilities: audio cd-r cd-rw > configuration: status=nodisc > richard at richard-desktop:~$ sudo lshw -c memory > *-firmware > description: BIOS > vendor: Phoenix Technologies, LTD > physical id: 0 > version: 6.00 PG > date: 03/14/2007 > size: 128KiB > capacity: 448KiB > capabilities: isa pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing cdboot > bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy360 int13floppy1200 > int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard > int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb agp ls120boot zipboot > biosbootspecification > *-cache:0 > description: L1 cache > physical id: b > slot: Internal Cache > size: 32KiB > capacity: 32KiB > capabilities: synchronous internal write-back > *-cache:1 > description: L2 cache > physical id: d > slot: External Cache > size: 2MiB > capacity: 2MiB > capabilities: synchronous external write-back > *-cache:0 > description: L1 cache > physical id: c > slot: Internal Cache > size: 32KiB > capacity: 32KiB > capabilities: synchronous internal write-back > *-cache:1 > description: L2 cache > physical id: e > slot: External Cache > size: 2MiB > capacity: 2MiB > capabilities: synchronous external write-back > *-memory > description: System Memory > physical id: 1d > slot: System board or motherboard > size: 4GiB > *-bank:0 > description: DIMM > product: None > vendor: None > physical id: 0 > serial: None > slot: A0 > size: 1GiB > *-bank:1 > description: DIMM > product: None > vendor: None > physical id: 1 > serial: None > slot: A1 > size: 1GiB > *-bank:2 > description: DIMM > product: None > vendor: None > physical id: 2 > serial: None > slot: A2 > size: 1GiB > *-bank:3 > description: DIMM > product: None > vendor: None > physical id: 3 > serial: None > slot: A3 > size: 1GiB > richard at richard-desktop:~$ sudo lshw -c neywork > richard at richard-desktop:~$ sudo lshw -c network > *-network > description: Ethernet interface > product: VT6102 [Rhine-II] > vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc. > physical id: 12 > bus info: pci at 0000:00:12.0 > logical name: eth0 > version: 78 > serial: 00:19:21:07:2f:8f > size: 100Mbit/s > capacity: 100Mbit/s > width: 32 bits > clock: 33MHz > capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii > 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation > configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes > driver=via-rhine driverversion=1.5.1 duplex=full ip=192.168.1.89 > latency=32 link=yes maxlatency=8 mingnt=3 multicast=yes port=MII > speed=100Mbit/s > resources: irq:23 ioport:c000(size=256) memory:fdffd000-fdffd0ff > richard at richard-desktop:~$ > Dick Barmann >> >> > > From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Apr 6 01:16:26 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (bmarsh at bmarsh.com) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 21:16:26 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> Message-ID: <61919EEE-7E03-4F2C-916D-8443B4E51CCA@bmarsh.com> > On Apr 5, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: > >> On 04/05/2015 11:48 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>> On 04/05/2015 01:42 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> Bruce Marshall wrote: >>>>> On 04/04/2015 02:49 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>>> I don't know "hwinfo" but how about "lshw"? OTOH I don't know if >>>>> that is also removed from 15.04 (I'm still using 14.04). >>>> That's one I didn't know about...(lshw) and it is in 15.04. Pretty >>>> good except that 'hwinfo' was able to output specific devices if >>>> asked (gfx, disk, memory), which cut down on the info. >>> sudo lshw -c display >>> sudo lshw -c disk >>> sudo lshw -c memory >>> sudo lshw -c network >>> >>> ... :) >> Thanks for this.... >> >> Haven't forgotten you... Didn't see the cpu mentioned... Is it 32 or 64 bit... But that shouldn't matter... Not sure but i might have a 6200 video here... I am running a 9400. Will think on this overnight... As to what to try next... From reb68 at att.net Mon Apr 6 01:24:57 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 21:24:57 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <61919EEE-7E03-4F2C-916D-8443B4E51CCA@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> <61919EEE-7E03-4F2C-916D-8443B4E51CCA@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <5521E069.1080005@att.net> On 04/05/2015 09:16 PM, bmarsh at bmarsh.com wrote: > > > > >> On Apr 5, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >> >>> On 04/05/2015 11:48 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>>> On 04/05/2015 01:42 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>> Bruce Marshall wrote: >>>>>> On 04/04/2015 02:49 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>>>> I don't know "hwinfo" but how about "lshw"? OTOH I don't know if >>>>>> that is also removed from 15.04 (I'm still using 14.04). >>>>> That's one I didn't know about...(lshw) and it is in 15.04. Pretty >>>>> good except that 'hwinfo' was able to output specific devices if >>>>> asked (gfx, disk, memory), which cut down on the info. >>>> sudo lshw -c display >>>> sudo lshw -c disk >>>> sudo lshw -c memory >>>> sudo lshw -c network >>>> >>>> ... :) >>> Thanks for this.... >>> >>> > Haven't forgotten you... Didn't see the cpu mentioned... Is it 32 or 64 bit... But that shouldn't matter... > > Not sure but i might have a 6200 video here... I am running a 9400. Will think on this overnight... As to what to try next... It is 32 bit. Thank you Dick Barmann From cody.smith at ubuntu.com Mon Apr 6 01:50:31 2015 From: cody.smith at ubuntu.com (Cody Smith) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 18:50:31 -0700 Subject: Plasma netbook In-Reply-To: <55219362.3010307@vodafone.it> References: <551F20F0.1060804@att.net> <55219362.3010307@vodafone.it> Message-ID: iirc Plasma 5 doesn't have a netbook profile (at least not yet, and that's something that has to be implemented upstream on KDE's part). So it'd probably be better to either stay on 14.04 until that hits, or live without until it's implemented, Plasma 5 is still in it's infancy, so not everything is there yet. --c_smith On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Sergio wrote: > I am testing kubuntu vivid. > On 13.10 I was using netbook desktop configuration. > After the upgrade, netbook desktop doesn't work. > I tried to install plasma-netbook but it there isn't. > Someone knows if plasma-netbook will be on vivid release? > > Thank you > Sergio > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Apr 6 01:58:48 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 21:58:48 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5521E069.1080005@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> <61919EEE-7E03-4F2C-916D-8443B4E51CCA@bmarsh.com> <5521E069.1080005@att.net> Message-ID: <5521E858.1000900@bmarsh.com> On 04/05/2015 09:24 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: > On 04/05/2015 09:16 PM, bmarsh at bmarsh.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >>> >>>> On 04/05/2015 11:48 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>>>> On 04/05/2015 01:42 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>>> Bruce Marshall wrote: >>>>>>> On 04/04/2015 02:49 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>>>>> I don't know "hwinfo" but how about "lshw"? OTOH I don't know if >>>>>>> that is also removed from 15.04 (I'm still using 14.04). >>>>>> That's one I didn't know about...(lshw) and it is in 15.04. Pretty >>>>>> good except that 'hwinfo' was able to output specific devices if >>>>>> asked (gfx, disk, memory), which cut down on the info. >>>>> sudo lshw -c display >>>>> sudo lshw -c disk >>>>> sudo lshw -c memory >>>>> sudo lshw -c network >>>>> >>>>> ... :) >>>> Thanks for this.... >>>> >>>> >> Haven't forgotten you... Didn't see the cpu mentioned... Is it 32 >> or 64 bit... But that shouldn't matter... >> >> Not sure but i might have a 6200 video here... I am running a 9400. >> Will think on this overnight... As to what to try next... > It is 32 bit. > Thank you > Dick Barmann > Some things to check: ps aux | grep lightdm <---- checks for the existence of lightdm running You should get one line: grep lightdm which just shows the cmd you issued ps aux | grep sddm <=== you should get lots of output showing that sddm is running. On the other hand, some people say that sddm isn't starting upon a boot. You should get about 11 lines of output from the grep sddm line above. Been googling the problem and someone had both of them running which caused problems. -- "Reality is a figment of your imagination." From reb68 at att.net Mon Apr 6 14:39:30 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 10:39:30 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5521E858.1000900@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> <61919EEE-7E03-4F2C-916D-8443B4E51CCA@bmarsh.com> <5521E069.1080005@att.net> <5521E858.1000900@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <55229AA2.8030404@att.net> On 04/05/2015 09:58 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/05/2015 09:24 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >> On 04/05/2015 09:16 PM, bmarsh at bmarsh.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 04/05/2015 11:48 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>>>>> On 04/05/2015 01:42 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>>>> Bruce Marshall wrote: >>>>>>>> On 04/04/2015 02:49 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>>>>>> I don't know "hwinfo" but how about "lshw"? OTOH I don't know if >>>>>>>> that is also removed from 15.04 (I'm still using 14.04). >>>>>>> That's one I didn't know about...(lshw) and it is in 15.04. Pretty >>>>>>> good except that 'hwinfo' was able to output specific devices if >>>>>>> asked (gfx, disk, memory), which cut down on the info. >>>>>> sudo lshw -c display >>>>>> sudo lshw -c disk >>>>>> sudo lshw -c memory >>>>>> sudo lshw -c network >>>>>> >>>>>> ... :) >>>>> Thanks for this.... >>>>> >>>>> >>> Haven't forgotten you... Didn't see the cpu mentioned... Is it 32 >>> or 64 bit... But that shouldn't matter... >>> >>> Not sure but i might have a 6200 video here... I am running a >>> 9400. Will think on this overnight... As to what to try next... >> It is 32 bit. >> Thank you >> Dick Barmann >> > > Some things to check: > > ps aux | grep lightdm <---- checks for the existence of > lightdm running You should get one line: grep lightdm which just > shows the cmd you issued > > ps aux | grep sddm <=== you should get lots of output showing > that sddm is running. > > On the other hand, some people say that sddm isn't starting upon a > boot. You should get about 11 lines of output from the grep sddm > line above. > > > Been googling the problem and someone had both of them running which > caused problems. > > > I have one line in lightdm and eleven lines in sddm. in my 14.10 I have four lines in lightdm and one line in sddm Dick Barmann > > > From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Apr 6 17:20:19 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 13:20:19 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5521E069.1080005@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> <61919EEE-7E03-4F2C-916D-8443B4E51CCA@bmarsh.com> <5521E069.1080005@att.net> Message-ID: <5522C053.4020902@bmarsh.com> On 04/05/2015 09:24 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >> Haven't forgotten you... Didn't see the cpu mentioned... Is it 32 >> or 64 bit... But that shouldn't matter... >> >> Not sure but i might have a 6200 video here... I am running a 9400. >> Will think on this overnight... As to what to try next... > It is 32 bit. > Thank you > Dick Barmann I am currently loading 15.04 on a 32bit laptop.... probably won't cause the problem to be recreated but ya never know... -- "If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs I have known will go to heaven, and very, very few persons." -James Thurber From casser at vodafone.it Mon Apr 6 18:48:34 2015 From: casser at vodafone.it (casser at vodafone.it) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 20:48:34 +0200 Subject: Plasma netbook In-Reply-To: References: =?iso-8859-1?q?=3C551F20F0=2E1060804=40att=2Enet=3E_=3C55219362=2E301?= =?iso-8859-1?q?0307=40vodafone=2Eit=3E_=3CCAB2RWywFTkzxYkmQ7WFW1543V4?= =?iso-8859-1?q?Sxdc024jQKuL9HwQ8rrH3KdA=40mail=2Egmail=2Ecom=3E?= Message-ID: Thank you. Ciao. Sergio Da: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com A: "Kubuntu user technical support" kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Cc: Data: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 18:50:31 -0700 Oggetto: Re: Plasma netbook > iirc Plasma 5 doesn't have a netbook profile (at least not yet, and that's something that has to be implemented upstream on KDE's part). So it'd probably be better to either stay on 14.04 until that hits, or live without until it's implemented, Plasma 5 is still in it's infancy, so not everything is there yet. > --c_smith > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Sergio wrote: > I am testing kubuntu vivid. > On 13.10 I was using netbook desktop configuration. > After the upgrade, netbook desktop doesn't work. > I tried to install plasma-netbook but it there isn't. > Someone knows if plasma-netbook will be on vivid release? > Thank you > Sergio > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Apr 6 19:50:47 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 15:50:47 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <55209E0C.9000408@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> <55207322.8010609@att.net> <55207598.2090801@bmarsh.com> <55208E7E.2050501@att.net> <552094F9.9030604@bmarsh.com> <55209E0C.9000408@att.net> Message-ID: <5522E397.80008@bmarsh.com> On 04/04/2015 10:29 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: > On 04/04/2015 09:23 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >>> >>> Yes I get the Grub screen. I have to pick Version 14..10 to read >>> your Emails and then boot up again to get to Version 15.04 to try >>> the fixes. I think I can get a Comand Line in Grub plus several >>> other choices. I really appreciate the time all of you are puting in >>> to help me solve this. I was just used to calling my friend, Robbie, >>> and he would tell me what to do or how to get the Info needed to >>> solve it. After he died I found I did not know that much about Linux >>> because he was always there I found this in the ubuntu forum. Sounds like the 6200 is a pretty old card. Do you have an onboard graphics you could try? I loaded 15.04 on my Toshiba laptop and have had no problems. 1. NVIDIA GEForce 6200 LE I have a MSI motherboard with unichrome graphics chip. I am running Ubuntu 12.04. If recently installed a NVIDIA GEForce 6200 LE graphics card. I have installed drivers from geforce website, undated headers and updated grub. When I boot with monitor connected to NVIDIA card I get the "black screen." All I can do is shut the computer down and startup with the monitor connected the the unichrome graphics which now only has 640x480 since the upgrade. I'm not really sure what step to take next. Any suggestions would certainly be welcome. Thanks, Jim Advanced replyAdv Reply 2. January 18th, 2013#2 *ManamiVixen* ManamiVixen is offlineDipped in Ubuntu Join Date Jan 2013 Beans 525 Re: NVIDIA GEForce 6200 LE As far as I'm aware of, the oldest Nvidia video card Ubuntu 12.04 supports is the 8400. Need to upgrade. Also check to see if your bios is set to use the card and not onboard. Last edited by ManamiVixen; January 18th, 2013 at05:00 AM. -- Law of Cat Mass The mass of a cat is inversely proportional to its desire to be picked up. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: clear.gif Type: image/gif Size: 43 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: user-offline.png Type: image/png Size: 858 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: icon_smile.gif Type: image/gif Size: 174 bytes Desc: not available URL: From reb68 at att.net Mon Apr 6 20:59:56 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 16:59:56 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5522E397.80008@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> <55207322.8010609@att.net> <55207598.2090801@bmarsh.com> <55208E7E.2050501@att.net> <552094F9.9030604@bmarsh.com> <55209E0C.9000408@att.net> <5522E397.80008@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <5522F3CC.7000604@att.net> On 04/06/2015 03:50 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/04/2015 10:29 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >> On 04/04/2015 09:23 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes I get the Grub screen. I have to pick Version 14..10 to read >>>> your Emails and then boot up again to get to Version 15.04 to try >>>> the fixes. I think I can get a Comand Line in Grub plus several >>>> other choices. I really appreciate the time all of you are puting >>>> in to help me solve this. I was just used to calling my friend, >>>> Robbie, and he would tell me what to do or how to get the Info >>>> needed to solve it. After he died I found I did not know that much >>>> about Linux because he was always there > > I found this in the ubuntu forum. Sounds like the 6200 is a pretty > old card. Do you have an onboard graphics you could try? I loaded > 15.04 on my Toshiba laptop and have had no problems. > > 1. > > > NVIDIA GEForce 6200 LE > > I have a MSI motherboard with unichrome graphics chip. I am > running Ubuntu 12.04. If recently installed a NVIDIA GEForce > 6200 LE graphics card. I have installed drivers from geforce > website, undated headers and updated grub. When I boot with > monitor connected to NVIDIA card I get the "black screen." All > I can do is shut the computer down and startup with the > monitor connected the the unichrome graphics which now only > has 640x480 since the upgrade. I'm not really sure what step > to take next. Any suggestions would certainly be welcome. > Thanks, Jim > > Advanced replyAdv Reply > > 2. > January 18th, 2013#2 > > *ManamiVixen* > ManamiVixen is offlineDipped in Ubuntu > > Join Date > Jan 2013 > Beans > 525 > > > Re: NVIDIA GEForce 6200 LE > > As far as I'm aware of, the oldest Nvidia video card Ubuntu > 12.04 supports is the 8400. Need to upgrade. Also check to see > if your bios is set to use the card and not onboard. > > Last edited by ManamiVixen; January 18th, 2013 at05:00 AM. > > > > > > -- > Law of Cat Mass > The mass of a cat is inversely proportional to its desire to be > picked up. > > My Graphic says "Integrated in UniChrome Pro Chipset" "Max Shared Video Memory is 64 MB" I do not remember how to check Bios. 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I have to pick Version 14..10 to read >>>>> your Emails and then boot up again to get to Version 15.04 to try >>>>> the fixes. I think I can get a Comand Line in Grub plus several >>>>> other choices. I really appreciate the time all of you are puting >>>>> in to help me solve this. I was just used to calling my friend, >>>>> Robbie, and he would tell me what to do or how to get the Info >>>>> needed to solve it. After he died I found I did not know that much >>>>> about Linux because he was always there >> >> I found this in the ubuntu forum. Sounds like the 6200 is a pretty >> old card. Do you have an onboard graphics you could try? I loaded >> 15.04 on my Toshiba laptop and have had no problems. >> >> 1. >> >> >> NVIDIA GEForce 6200 LE >> >> I have a MSI motherboard with unichrome graphics chip. I am >> running Ubuntu 12.04. If recently installed a NVIDIA GEForce >> 6200 LE graphics card. I have installed drivers from geforce >> website, undated headers and updated grub. When I boot with >> monitor connected to NVIDIA card I get the "black screen." >> All I can do is shut the computer down and startup with the >> monitor connected the the unichrome graphics which now only >> has 640x480 since the upgrade. I'm not really sure what step >> to take next. Any suggestions would certainly be welcome. >> Thanks, Jim >> >> Advanced replyAdv Reply >> >> 2. >> January 18th, 2013#2 >> >> *ManamiVixen* >> ManamiVixen is offlineDipped in Ubuntu >> >> Join Date >> Jan 2013 >> Beans >> 525 >> >> >> Re: NVIDIA GEForce 6200 LE >> >> As far as I'm aware of, the oldest Nvidia video card Ubuntu >> 12.04 supports is the 8400. Need to upgrade. Also check to >> see if your bios is set to use the card and not onboard. >> >> Last edited by ManamiVixen; January 18th, 2013 at05:00 AM. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Law of Cat Mass >> The mass of a cat is inversely proportional to its desire to be >> picked up. >> >> > My Graphic says "Integrated in UniChrome Pro Chipset" "Max Shared > Video Memory is 64 MB" > I do not remember how to check Bios. > Dick Barmann > > I pluged the monior into the Mother Board VGA and just got a black > screen. Of course I did not change any Bios. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 43 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have to pick Version 14..10 to read >>>>>> your Emails and then boot up again to get to Version 15.04 to try >>>>>> the fixes. I think I can get a Comand Line in Grub plus several >>>>>> other choices. I really appreciate the time all of you are puting >>>>>> in to help me solve this. I was just used to calling my friend, >>>>>> Robbie, and he would tell me what to do or how to get the Info >>>>>> needed to solve it. After he died I found I did not know that >>>>>> much about Linux because he was always there >>> >>> I found this in the ubuntu forum. Sounds like the 6200 is a pretty >>> old card. Do you have an onboard graphics you could try? I loaded >>> 15.04 on my Toshiba laptop and have had no problems. >>> >>> 1. >>> >>> >>> NVIDIA GEForce 6200 LE >>> >>> I have a MSI motherboard with unichrome graphics chip. I am >>> running Ubuntu 12.04. If recently installed a NVIDIA GEForce >>> 6200 LE graphics card. I have installed drivers from geforce >>> website, undated headers and updated grub. When I boot with >>> monitor connected to NVIDIA card I get the "black screen." >>> All I can do is shut the computer down and startup with the >>> monitor connected the the unichrome graphics which now only >>> has 640x480 since the upgrade. I'm not really sure what step >>> to take next. Any suggestions would certainly be welcome. >>> Thanks, Jim >>> >>> Advanced replyAdv Reply >>> >>> 2. >>> January 18th, 2013#2 >>> >>> *ManamiVixen* >>> ManamiVixen is offlineDipped in Ubuntu >>> >>> Join Date >>> Jan 2013 >>> Beans >>> 525 >>> >>> >>> Re: NVIDIA GEForce 6200 LE >>> >>> As far as I'm aware of, the oldest Nvidia video card Ubuntu >>> 12.04 supports is the 8400. Need to upgrade. Also check to >>> see if your bios is set to use the card and not onboard. >>> >>> Last edited by ManamiVixen; January 18th, 2013 at05:00 AM. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Law of Cat Mass >>> The mass of a cat is inversely proportional to its desire to be >>> picked up. >>> >>> >> My Graphic says "Integrated in UniChrome Pro Chipset" "Max Shared >> Video Memory is 64 MB" >> I do not remember how to check Bios. >> Dick Barmann >> >> I pluged the monior into the Mother Board VGA and just got a black >> screen. Of course I did not change any Bios. >> >> Back where I was before. Do I need a different VGA Card or do I need >> to change the Bios to the Mother Board VGA? Dick Barmann > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'd: 1) Try the change to the motherboard bios... if it works, you are in. 2) Google some to find if the 6200 is supported. 3) Get another graphics card. But you could also try to change to the Nvidia drivers... from the command line. sudo apt-get install nvidia-340 but getting rid of the nouveau drivers (what you are using now) can be a devilish task...) -- "Life not only begins at forty, it also begins to show." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From reb68 at att.net Tue Apr 7 01:29:34 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 21:29:34 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <55232449.8090903@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1E66B127-B90B-4035-8A14-0EA0BEEC7467@bmarsh.com> <551FFCCB.7030305@att.net> <55201BDD.7040003@bmarsh.com> <55207322.8010609@att.net> <55207598.2090801@bmarsh.com> <55208E7E.2050501@att.net> <552094F9.9030604@bmarsh.com> <55209E0C.9000408@att.net> <5522E397.80008@bmarsh.com> <5522F3CC.7000604@att.net> <55230405.7090000@att.net> <552315EB.7050100@att.net> <55232449.8090903@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <552332FE.5030006@att.net> On 04/06/2015 08:26 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/06/2015 07:25 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >>>> Back where I was before. Do I need a different VGA Card or do I >>>> need to change the Bios to the Mother Board VGA? >> Dick Barmann > > Well, if it were me.... I'd: > > 1) Try the change to the motherboard bios... if it works, you are in. > > 2) Google some to find if the 6200 is supported. > > 3) Get another graphics card. > > > But you could also try to change to the Nvidia drivers... from the > command line. > > sudo apt-get install nvidia-340 > > but getting rid of the nouveau drivers (what you are using now) can be > a devilish task...) > > -- > "Life not only begins at forty, it also begins to show." > > What would I have to do to go to the motherboard VGA? Change Bio s > first? Plug the monitor into the Motherboard VGA? Will I still have a > ploblem getting rid of drivers? In what order do I proceed/ Dick Barmann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clay at claydoh.com Tue Apr 7 02:43:42 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 22:43:42 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <55230405.7090000@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <5522F3CC.7000604@att.net> <55230405.7090000@att.net> Message-ID: <1523080.kjdpDoa3pT@jake-latitude-d630> On Monday, April 06, 2015 06:09:09 PM Richard Barmann wrote: > > > > My Graphic says "Integrated in UniChrome Pro Chipset" "Max Shared > > Video Memory is 64 MB" Ouch, this is a SiS gpu, which not only is garbage, but also has probably the worst linux support ever. The Nvidia, while still ancient, is at least supported in Linux, though if it is "beefy" enough for a modern, graphics- card-intensive desktop like plasma 5 is a really good question. However, the UniChrome *might* get you to a working desktop, assuming that it is actually the video that is keeping things from loading (which is most likely the case).. > > I do not remember how to check Bios. > > Dick Barmann > > > > I pluged the monior into the Mother Board VGA and just got a black > > screen. Of course I did not change any Bios. -- Clay Weber From ralsa at openmailbox.org Tue Apr 7 09:38:46 2015 From: ralsa at openmailbox.org (Carlos A.F.) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 11:38:46 +0200 Subject: "Place in Systray" and non KDE apps in systray In-Reply-To: <55229AA2.8030404@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <5521E858.1000900@bmarsh.com> <55229AA2.8030404@att.net> Message-ID: <8510918.7S6K69AfxM@anibal> The Kmenuedit option "place in systray" doesn't work. The systray icon of some applications like, for example, aMule, appears in the top left corner screen the when are minimized. The activation of the "Place in Systray" option causes a plasma error notification: KDEInit can't launch "ksystraycmd" Cannot load library /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_ksystraycmd: (/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ñibkdeinit5_ksystraycmd.so: cannot open the objet: doesn't exist file or directory) From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Tue Apr 7 11:25:34 2015 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 06:25:34 -0500 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions Message-ID: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343875 I'm still seeing this with beta 2 and current patches. I'm concerned, since the scheduled release date is 2015-04-23. Surely it's not going to go out the door like that? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From reb68 at att.net Tue Apr 7 12:32:54 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 08:32:54 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <1523080.kjdpDoa3pT@jake-latitude-d630> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <5522F3CC.7000604@att.net> <55230405.7090000@att.net> <1523080.kjdpDoa3pT@jake-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <5523CE76.9070200@att.net> On 04/06/2015 10:43 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > On Monday, April 06, 2015 06:09:09 PM Richard Barmann wrote: > >>> My Graphic says "Integrated in UniChrome Pro Chipset" "Max Shared >>> Video Memory is 64 MB" > Ouch, this is a SiS gpu, which not only is garbage, but also has probably the > worst linux support ever. The Nvidia, while still ancient, is at least > supported in Linux, though if it is "beefy" enough for a modern, graphics- > card-intensive desktop like plasma 5 is a really good question. > > However, the UniChrome *might* get you to a working desktop, assuming that it > is actually the video that is keeping things from loading (which is most > likely the case).. > > >>> I do not remember how to check Bios. >>> Dick Barmann >>> >>> I pluged the monior into the Mother Board VGA and just got a black >>> screen. Of course I did not change any Bios. > What steps do I take to change to the UniChrome to try it and use until I can afford a better card. Dick Barmann From buzzmandt at gmail.com Tue Apr 7 13:34:53 2015 From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 09:34:53 -0400 Subject: Plasma netbook In-Reply-To: References: <551F20F0.1060804@att.net> <55219362.3010307@vodafone.it> Message-ID: Since kde is trying the whole 'one build fits all screens' thing will this even be implemented or planned? On Apr 6, 2015 2:49 PM, wrote: > Thank you. > Ciao. > Sergio > > > Da: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com > A: "Kubuntu user technical support" kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Cc: > Data: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 18:50:31 -0700 > Oggetto: Re: Plasma netbook > > > iirc Plasma 5 doesn't have a netbook profile (at least not yet, and > that's something that has to be implemented upstream on KDE's part). So > it'd probably be better to either stay on 14.04 until that hits, or live > without until it's implemented, Plasma 5 is still in it's infancy, so not > everything is there yet. > > > --c_smith > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Sergio wrote: > >> > I am testing kubuntu vivid. >> > On 13.10 I was using netbook desktop configuration. >> > After the upgrade, netbook desktop doesn't work. >> > I tried to install plasma-netbook but it there isn't. >> > Someone knows if plasma-netbook will be on vivid release? >> >> > Thank you >> > Sergio >> >> > -- >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ >> mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Apr 7 14:58:52 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (bmarsh at bmarsh.com) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 10:58:52 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> Message-ID: Got something for you to try that will: 1) prove whether your graphics card is the problem. 2) may be your final solution to the problem. Get yourself to a 15.04. Terminal session.... And then: Sudo apt-get install xfce4 Reboot and when you get to the initial login screen, use the pull-down menu to select an XFCE session instead of Plasma. Then complete the login. XFCE is a much less graphic intensive window manager and doesn't have all the glitz (and cost) of Plasma. I like it and I think you will too. Good luck! > On Apr 5, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: > >> On 04/05/2015 11:48 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>> On 04/05/2015 01:42 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> Bruce Marshall wrote: >>>>> On 04/04/2015 02:49 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>>> I don't know "hwinfo" but how about "lshw"? OTOH I don't know if >>>>> that is also removed from 15.04 (I'm still using 14.04). >>>> That's one I didn't know about...(lshw) and it is in 15.04. Pretty >>>> good except that 'hwinfo' was able to output specific devices if >>>> asked (gfx, disk, memory), which cut down on the info. >>> sudo lshw -c display >>> sudo lshw -c disk >>> sudo lshw -c memory >>> sudo lshw -c network >>> >>> ... :) >> Thanks for this.... >> >> ichard at richard-desktop:~$ sudo lshw -c display >> *-display >> description: VGA compatible controller >> product: NV44A [GeForce 6200] >> vendor: NVIDIA Corporation >> physical id: 0 >> bus info: pci at 0000:01:00.0 >> version: a1 >> width: 32 bits >> clock: 66MHz >> capabilities: pm agp agp-3.0 vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom >> configuration: driver=nouveau latency=32 maxlatency=1 mingnt=5 >> resources: irq:16 memory:fa000000-faffffff memory:c0000000-dfffffff memory:fb000000-fbffffff memory:fc000000-fc01ffff >> richard at richard-desktop:~$ sudo lshw -c disk >> *-disk:0 >> description: ATA Disk >> product: MAXTOR STM316081 >> vendor: Maxtor >> physical id: 0.0.0 >> bus info: scsi at 2:0.0.0 >> logical name: /dev/sda >> version: 3.AA From accessys at smart.net Tue Apr 7 15:06:38 2015 From: accessys at smart.net (accessys at smart.net) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 11:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> Message-ID: I have used XFCE for many years and find it a very nice desktop, powerful without being overwhelming. I would use it more if it were able to do all of the things that Plasma does natively. (updates are a PITA) Bob On Tue, 7 Apr 2015, bmarsh at bmarsh.com wrote: > Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 10:58:52 -0400 > From: "bmarsh at bmarsh.com" > Reply-To: Kubuntu user technical support > To: "" > Subject: Re: Updating to 15.04 > > > Got something for you to try that will: > > 1) prove whether your graphics card is the problem. > > 2) may be your final solution to the problem. > > Get yourself to a 15.04. Terminal session.... And then: > > Sudo apt-get install xfce4 > > Reboot and when you get to the initial login screen, use the pull-down menu to select an XFCE session instead of Plasma. Then complete the login. > > XFCE is a much less graphic intensive window manager and doesn't have all the glitz (and cost) of Plasma. I like it and I think you will too. > > Good luck! > > > >> On Apr 5, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >> >>> On 04/05/2015 11:48 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>>> On 04/05/2015 01:42 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>> Bruce Marshall wrote: >>>>>> On 04/04/2015 02:49 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>>>> I don't know "hwinfo" but how about "lshw"? OTOH I don't know if >>>>>> that is also removed from 15.04 (I'm still using 14.04). >>>>> That's one I didn't know about...(lshw) and it is in 15.04. Pretty >>>>> good except that 'hwinfo' was able to output specific devices if >>>>> asked (gfx, disk, memory), which cut down on the info. >>>> sudo lshw -c display >>>> sudo lshw -c disk >>>> sudo lshw -c memory >>>> sudo lshw -c network >>>> >>>> ... :) >>> Thanks for this.... >>> >>> ichard at richard-desktop:~$ sudo lshw -c display >>> *-display >>> description: VGA compatible controller >>> product: NV44A [GeForce 6200] >>> vendor: NVIDIA Corporation >>> physical id: 0 >>> bus info: pci at 0000:01:00.0 >>> version: a1 >>> width: 32 bits >>> clock: 66MHz >>> capabilities: pm agp agp-3.0 vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom >>> configuration: driver=nouveau latency=32 maxlatency=1 mingnt=5 >>> resources: irq:16 memory:fa000000-faffffff memory:c0000000-dfffffff memory:fb000000-fbffffff memory:fc000000-fc01ffff >>> richard at richard-desktop:~$ sudo lshw -c disk >>> *-disk:0 >>> description: ATA Disk >>> product: MAXTOR STM316081 >>> vendor: Maxtor >>> physical id: 0.0.0 >>> bus info: scsi at 2:0.0.0 >>> logical name: /dev/sda >>> version: 3.AA > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Apr 7 15:22:01 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 11:22:01 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> Message-ID: <5523F619.4040901@bmarsh.com> On 04/07/2015 11:06 AM, accessys at smart.net wrote: > > I have used XFCE for many years and find it a very nice desktop, > powerful without being overwhelming. I would use it more if it were > able to do all of the things that Plasma does natively. (updates are a > PITA) > > Bob What is missing for you in XFCE? I just came back to it after a 5 year use of KDE. I had to quit XFCE when Kmail wouldn't run on it.... but then Kmail became problematic so I switched to T-bird. Now I am back on XFCE and find it very useable. -- "Never hold a cat and a dust buster at the same time." From reb68 at att.net Tue Apr 7 19:21:13 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 15:21:13 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5523F619.4040901@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> <5523F619.4040901@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <55242E29.5090506@att.net> On 04/07/2015 11:22 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/07/2015 11:06 AM, accessys at smart.net wrote: >> >> I have used XFCE for many years and find it a very nice desktop, >> powerful without being overwhelming. I would use it more if it were >> able to do all of the things that Plasma does natively. (updates are >> a PITA) >> >> Bob > > What is missing for you in XFCE? I just came back to it after a 5 > year use of KDE. I had to quit XFCE when Kmail wouldn't run on > it.... but then Kmail became problematic so I switched to T-bird. > Now I am back on XFCE and find it very useable. > Dick Barmann Wrote: > I am sending this from Thunderbird in the XFEC and it is working at > this time.I want to thank everyone for thier time and knowledge > helping me this past week. I would be lost without all of you. Is xefc > just another version of Ubuntu? I know I was a pain because of my > limited knowledge but when I was turned on to Linux I never wanted to > go back to Windows. Thanks again and Bless you all. Dick Barmann From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Apr 7 20:43:09 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 16:43:09 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <55242E29.5090506@att.net> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> <5523F619.4040901@bmarsh.com> <55242E29.5090506@att.net> Message-ID: <5524415D.7020102@bmarsh.com> On 04/07/2015 03:21 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: > > > On 04/07/2015 11:22 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >> On 04/07/2015 11:06 AM, accessys at smart.net wrote: >>> >>> I have used XFCE for many years and find it a very nice desktop, >>> powerful without being overwhelming. I would use it more if it were >>> able to do all of the things that Plasma does natively. (updates are >>> a PITA) >>> >>> Bob >> >> What is missing for you in XFCE? I just came back to it after a 5 >> year use of KDE. I had to quit XFCE when Kmail wouldn't run on >> it.... but then Kmail became problematic so I switched to T-bird. >> Now I am back on XFCE and find it very useable. >> Dick Barmann Wrote: >> I am sending this from Thunderbird in the XFEC and it is working at >> this time.I want to thank everyone for thier time and knowledge >> helping me this past week. I would be lost without all of you. Is >> xefc just another version of Ubuntu? I know I was a pain because of >> my limited knowledge but when I was turned on to Linux I never wanted >> to go back to Windows. Thanks again and Bless you all. > Dick Barmann > > > Glad it's working for you!!! XFCE (you spelled it wrong) is a light-weight "window manager" without the glitz of KDE but it runs all the applications that KDE provides. Takes a lot less horsepower than KDE, especially with Plasma, and should do a good job for you. -- "Friends help you move. 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From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Apr 7 21:02:54 2015 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 17:02:54 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5524415D.7020102@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> <5523F619.4040901@bmarsh.com> <55242E29.5090506@att.net> <5524415D.7020102@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <552445FE.9000509@bmarsh.com> On 04/07/2015 04:43 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >> I am sending this from Thunderbird in the XFEC and it is working at >> this time.I want to thank everyone for thier time and knowledge >> helping me this past week. I would be lost without all of you. Is >> xefc just another version of Ubuntu? I know I was a pain because of >> my limited knowledge but when I was turned on to Linux I never wanted >> to go back to Windows. Thanks again and Bless you all. > Dick Barmann In the future, install Kubuntu first (to get all the KDE programs) and if you have problems or not, go through the install of XFCE. (you did take notes didn't you??) Then use XFCE. -- " Jesus is coming, everyone look busy." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reb68 at att.net Tue Apr 7 21:18:54 2015 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 17:18:54 -0400 Subject: Updating to 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5524415D.7020102@bmarsh.com> References: <551F4BC5.4010609@att.net> <1675560.YXXUQAmvyo@p5915> <55204367.5050906@bmarsh.com> <3219999.ldzkVZnqLL@p5915> <5521595F.4040708@bmarsh.com> <5521D9E2.5080803@att.net> <5523F619.4040901@bmarsh.com> <55242E29.5090506@att.net> <5524415D.7020102@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <552449BE.8080509@att.net> On 04/07/2015 04:43 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On 04/07/2015 03:21 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >> >> >> On 04/07/2015 11:22 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>> On 04/07/2015 11:06 AM, accessys at smart.net wrote: >>>> >>>> I have used XFCE for many years and find it a very nice desktop, >>>> powerful without being overwhelming. I would use it more if it >>>> were able to do all of the things that Plasma does natively. >>>> (updates are a PITA) >>>> >>>> Bob >>> >>> What is missing for you in XFCE? I just came back to it after a 5 >>> year use of KDE. I had to quit XFCE when Kmail wouldn't run on >>> it.... but then Kmail became problematic so I switched to T-bird. >>> Now I am back on XFCE and find it very useable. >>> Dick Barmann Wrote: >>> I am sending this from Thunderbird in the XFEC and it is working at >>> this time.I want to thank everyone for thier time and knowledge >>> helping me this past week. I would be lost without all of you. Is >>> xefc just another version of Ubuntu? I know I was a pain because of >>> my limited knowledge but when I was turned on to Linux I never >>> wanted to go back to Windows. Thanks again and Bless you all. >> Dick Barmann >> >> >> > > Glad it's working for you!!! XFCE (you spelled it wrong) is a > light-weight "window manager" without the glitz of KDE but it runs all > the applications that KDE provides. > > Takes a lot less horsepower than KDE, especially with Plasma, and > should do a good job for you. > > -- > "Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies." > > I had sent an Email at the same time that you did. What sound program > do you suggest? The Kmix that comes up will not launch and when I go > to "usr/share/applications/kde4/kmix.desktop" I find NO kde4. It also > comes up with Audio Mixer-VIA 8237 (Alsa mixer). I cane download from > Muon or Synaptic. Dick Barmann -- A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government. 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I know I was a pain because of >>> my limited knowledge but when I was turned on to Linux I never >>> wanted to go back to Windows. Thanks again and Bless you all. >> Dick Barmann > > In the future, install Kubuntu first (to get all the KDE programs) and > if you have problems or not, go through the install of XFCE. (you > did take notes didn't you??) > > Then use XFCE. > > -- > " Jesus is coming, everyone look busy." > > I printed out all the Emails from the Forum. Dick Barmann -- When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it. Frederic Bastiat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Which Sound should I look for? > Why not try LXQT for a more modern lightweight DE? From what I have read XFCE is not very actively developed From kde.lists at yahoo.com Fri Apr 10 15:45:55 2015 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 17:45:55 +0200 Subject: XFCE In-Reply-To: <55278CFA.2050501@gmail.com> References: <552445A0.2090609@att.net> <55278CFA.2050501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20150410174555.5c7a89ff@archlinux> On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:42:34 +0200, O. Sinclair wrote: >Why not try LXQT for a more modern lightweight DE? From what I have >read XFCE is not very actively developed Unfortunately Xfce4 is under heavy development. One of my installs is a rolling release, so I'm using latest official stable releases from upstream. Most often I'm using JWM or openbox, just sometimes I'm using Xfce4. However, I need to find out to what version I need to downgrade Xfce4, to get back my old faithful Xfce4 and to get rid of the new Xfce4 with it's ugly, chunky window title bars, that ignore the theme. A few days ago I was shocked after starting a Xfce4 session. From ralsa at openmailbox.org Fri Apr 10 16:46:17 2015 From: ralsa at openmailbox.org (Carlos A.F.) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:46:17 +0200 Subject: Changing plasma theme onto dark doesn't change the panel In-Reply-To: <20150410174555.5c7a89ff@archlinux> References: <552445A0.2090609@att.net> <55278CFA.2050501@gmail.com> <20150410174555.5c7a89ff@archlinux> Message-ID: <21011857.xy1xvG1cZr@anibal> If i change the plasma theme into Breeze Dark (and icon themes for dark) the panel the panel remains white. From clay at claydoh.com Sat Apr 11 00:13:38 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 20:13:38 -0400 Subject: Changing plasma theme onto dark doesn't change the panel In-Reply-To: <21011857.xy1xvG1cZr@anibal> References: <552445A0.2090609@att.net> <20150410174555.5c7a89ff@archlinux> <21011857.xy1xvG1cZr@anibal> Message-ID: <9102675.N6TxJjacMP@jake-latitude-d630> On Friday, April 10, 2015 06:46:17 PM Carlos A.F. wrote: > If i change the plasma theme into Breeze Dark (and icon themes for dark) > the panel the panel remains white. try changing the rendering to opengl.2 or opengl3 (in the Compositor section under Display, in System Settings) Enabling or adjusting he "blur" desktop effect might help if opengl is already selected. Plasma 5 requires opengl, and sometimes the compositor falls back to xrender, which does not allow for all the opengl graphical goodies. Also, please don't begin a new topic by replying to an existing thread and simply changing the subject line, any messages will still show as a reply to the original message. -- Clay Weber From errol at tzora.co.il Sun Apr 12 06:15:14 2015 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 09:15:14 +0300 Subject: muon and plasma problem in 15.04 Message-ID: <552A0D72.80406@tzora.co.il> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Mon Apr 13 01:36:10 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade Question Message-ID: Howdy; Well, it looks like my long awaited hardware upgrade will soon be happening, and thus an upgrade to 14.04, as well. The question I have now, though, is this: The old box was 32 bit, and the new stuffings will be 64 bit. Is there a way to tell the upgrade mechanism to switch to 64 bit, or will I need to go to an install disk? No big deal either way, but I'd rather not waste my time if the disk is required. Thanks in advance. Bill From buzzmandt at gmail.com Mon Apr 13 01:41:32 2015 From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:41:32 -0400 Subject: Upgrade Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You'll have to do a new install with a 64 bit install medium in order to switch to 64 bit. On Apr 12, 2015 9:37 PM, "Bill Vance" wrote: > > > Howdy; > > Well, it looks like my long awaited hardware upgrade will > soon be happening, and thus an upgrade to 14.04, as well. > The question I have now, though, is this: The old box was > 32 bit, and the new stuffings will be 64 bit. Is there a > way to tell the upgrade mechanism to switch to 64 bit, or > will I need to go to an install disk? No big deal either > way, but I'd rather not waste my time if the disk is > required. > > Thanks in advance. > > Bill > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Mon Apr 13 14:58:08 2015 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:58:08 -0500 Subject: newest kernel not running Message-ID: <552BD980.3070909@lyonlabs.org> I'm working on a machine (hosted, for a job, not mine) where, after I ran updates, the latest kernel didn't boot. It's Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, and I'm seeing kernels 3.13.0-36, -37, -43, and -49 in /boot, but "uname -a" shows that -43 is running. Synaptic tells me that linux-generic's installed version is -49. Also, -49 is at the top of the list in grub.cfg. I can't see the machine booting or pause the GRUB menu because it's a hosted VM. Any ideas how I can diagnose this? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com Mon Apr 13 18:24:00 2015 From: ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com (peter maddison) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:24:00 +0100 Subject: newest kernel not running In-Reply-To: <552BD980.3070909@lyonlabs.org> References: <552BD980.3070909@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: Hi, You could try this https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/ It works for me every time. Pete On 13/04/15 15:58, Glenn Holmer wrote: > I'm working on a machine (hosted, for a job, not mine) where, after I > ran updates, the latest kernel didn't boot. It's Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, and > I'm seeing kernels 3.13.0-36, -37, -43, and -49 in /boot, but "uname -a" > shows that -43 is running. Synaptic tells me that linux-generic's > installed version is -49. Also, -49 is at the top of the list in > grub.cfg. I can't see the machine booting or pause the GRUB menu because > it's a hosted VM. > > Any ideas how I can diagnose this? > From fluca1978 at infinito.it Tue Apr 14 11:42:59 2015 From: fluca1978 at infinito.it (Luca Ferrari) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 13:42:59 +0200 Subject: eth0 -> eth1 Message-ID: Hi all, can anyone help me understanding why network interface eth0 is renamed to eth1? This puzzles me and, in my opinion, makes scripting a little more confusing and difficult. % lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Release: 14.04 Codename: trusty % uname -i -r 3.13.0-48-generic x86_64 % dmesg | grep eth [ 1.166890] forcedeth: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.64. [ 1.692684] forcedeth 0000:00:0a.0: ifname eth0, PHY OUI 0x1374 @ 1, addr 00:24:8c:72:10:aa [ 1.692689] forcedeth 0000:00:0a.0: highdma csum pwrctl mgmt gbit lnktim msi desc-v3 [ 24.932983] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready [ 25.354566] systemd-udevd[359]: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1 From info at alvin.be Tue Apr 14 11:51:40 2015 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 13:51:40 +0200 Subject: eth0 -> eth1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1568962.s3RWUzTEcD@alia> On Tuesday 14 April 2015 13:42:59 Luca Ferrari wrote: > Hi all, > can anyone help me understanding why network interface eth0 is renamed > to eth1? This puzzles me and, in my opinion, makes scripting a little > more confusing and difficult. > > [...] > [ 25.354566] systemd-udevd[359]: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1 I can't answer the why. It happens when network cards are added or removed. However, you can check and set the name in this file: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules From sarunas at math.dartmouth.edu Tue Apr 14 12:37:50 2015 From: sarunas at math.dartmouth.edu (Sarunas Burdulis) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 08:37:50 -0400 Subject: newest kernel not running In-Reply-To: <552BD980.3070909@lyonlabs.org> References: <552BD980.3070909@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: <552D0A1E.7060101@math.dartmouth.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 04/13/2015 10:58 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: > I'm working on a machine (hosted, for a job, not mine) where, after > I ran updates, the latest kernel didn't boot. It's Ubuntu 14.04.2 > LTS, and I'm seeing kernels 3.13.0-36, -37, -43, and -49 in /boot, > but "uname -a" shows that -43 is running. Synaptic tells me that > linux-generic's installed version is -49. Also, -49 is at the top > of the list in grub.cfg. I can't see the machine booting or pause > the GRUB menu because it's a hosted VM. > > Any ideas how I can diagnose this? You can check /etc/default/grub for settings, whether you still have GRUB_DEFAULT=0. Be careful with changes, if you don't have any means of seeing the boot screen. Sarunas Burdulis http://math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVLQocAAoJEAcPjabqyGA9+uMH/jYADu8BZFJhdoTyDGAF42Ew xtLyxsy508c5thkduQBzdnVCrXaDKSoeHm3oeRlQ4FRszcFbtjJT9bGuQern8Aaf lnfg7JzNWHfPcgea64PKOAd+aSQdB8pv7Sb1VO2InflA/SdCrlJfpWrzRJXMjk2u iBeDzVmv5N+v4LggITgBo34RW5UHt9xHGubG4AHhmWUwQfqYzGXRWL8j8SJUxkCb QkJi0GDh/K6FBKlxrqJHih1HViTqkLY41eiznnPFUvvjLwJoKZDpf+y05wbh5I8C pQgeVSiKTvg2b1Eulo5FZjmrWrmhlfIwwTE7A+YJ3tuIjfPZxRplnIfVYnZH7sw= =DShK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Tue Apr 14 19:16:55 2015 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 14:16:55 -0500 Subject: newest kernel not running In-Reply-To: <552D0A1E.7060101@math.dartmouth.edu> References: <552BD980.3070909@lyonlabs.org> <552D0A1E.7060101@math.dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <552D67A7.9030407@lyonlabs.org> On 04/14/2015 07:37 AM, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: > On 04/13/2015 10:58 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: >> I'm working on a machine (hosted, for a job, not mine) where, >> after I ran updates, the latest kernel didn't boot. It's Ubuntu >> 14.04.2 LTS, and I'm seeing kernels 3.13.0-36, -37, -43, and -49 >> in /boot, but "uname -a" shows that -43 is running. Synaptic >> tells me that linux-generic's installed version is -49. Also, >> -49 is at the top of the list in grub.cfg. I can't see the >> machine booting or pause the GRUB menu because it's a hosted VM. > >> Any ideas how I can diagnose this? > > You can check /etc/default/grub for settings, whether you still > have GRUB_DEFAULT=0. Be careful with changes, if you don't have > any means of seeing the boot screen. Yeah, it's still set to 0. I even ran update-grub to make sure, no change. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From fluca1978 at infinito.it Wed Apr 15 06:19:59 2015 From: fluca1978 at infinito.it (Luca Ferrari) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 08:19:59 +0200 Subject: eth0 -> eth1 In-Reply-To: <1568962.s3RWUzTEcD@alia> References: <1568962.s3RWUzTEcD@alia> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Alvin wrote: > I can't answer the why. It happens when network cards are added or removed. > However, you can check and set the name in this file: > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules > Uhm...even stranger: I've two rules for two different interfaces (but I see only one port on my case) # PCI device 0x1969:/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.0/0000:02:00.0 (ATL1E) SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:a0:d1:ae:cf:a6", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" # PCI device 0x10de:/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0a.0 (forcedeth) SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:24:8c:72:10:aa", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth1" Therefore it is quite strange that a rename event is triggered having two persistent eth0 and eth1. Now I can see that the forcedeth module is working on the becoming-eth1 interface, but starting from eth0: [ 1.146611] forcedeth: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.64. [ 1.668624] forcedeth 0000:00:0a.0: ifname eth0, PHY OUI 0x1374 @ 1, addr 00:24:8c:72:10:aa [ 1.668628] forcedeth 0000:00:0a.0: highdma csum pwrctl mgmt gbit lnktim msi desc-v3 [ 20.180063] forcedeth 0000:00:0a.0: irq 42 for MSI/MSI-X [ 20.180100] forcedeth 0000:00:0a.0 eth1: MSI enabled Now, from systemd-udevd(8) I got: net.ifnames= Network interfaces are renamed to give them predictable names when possible. It is enabled by default, specifying 0 disables it. Therefore udevd renames interfaces by default, how and why in my case is unclear to me. Luca From chris at bvhg.freeserve.co.uk Wed Apr 15 11:05:39 2015 From: chris at bvhg.freeserve.co.uk (Chris Luck) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 12:05:39 +0100 Subject: newest kernel not running In-Reply-To: <552BD980.3070909@lyonlabs.org> References: <552BD980.3070909@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: On 13/04/15 15:58, Glenn Holmer wrote: > I'm working on a machine (hosted, for a job, not mine) where, after > I ran updates, the latest kernel didn't boot. It's Ubuntu 14.04.2 > LTS, and I'm seeing kernels 3.13.0-36, -37, -43, and -49 in /boot, > but "uname -a" shows that -43 is running. Synaptic tells me that > linux-generic's installed version is -49. Also, -49 is at the top of > the list in grub.cfg. I can't see the machine booting or pause the > GRUB menu because it's a hosted VM. > > Any ideas how I can diagnose this? I had a similar problem, I had updated from Kubuntu 14.04 32bit to Kubuntu 14.10 64bit. I was forced to do the upgrade as graphics driver problems did not permit the install disc to get beyond (or even properly into) the opening screen. After the update it was some time before I noticed that I was running 3.13.0-40 kernel not 3.16.0-xx. I solved the matter by following the guidance in message #16 here - Change the numbers to suit your needs of course. -- Regards, Chris Luck From theuteck at gmail.com Wed Apr 15 12:45:41 2015 From: theuteck at gmail.com (theuteck at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 07:45:41 -0500 Subject: eth0 -> eth1 In-Reply-To: References: <1568962.s3RWUzTEcD@alia> Message-ID: <4647487.aHNu4uQU2g@allmine> On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 08:19:59 AM Luca Ferrari wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Alvin wrote: > > I can't answer the why. It happens when network cards are added or > > removed. > > However, you can check and set the name in this file: > > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules > > Uhm...even stranger: I've two rules for two different interfaces (but > I see only one port on my case) > > # PCI device 0x1969:/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.0/0000:02:00.0 > (ATL1E) SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", > ATTR{address}=="00:a0:d1:ae:cf:a6", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", > ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" > # PCI device 0x10de:/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0a.0 (forcedeth) > SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", > ATTR{address}=="00:24:8c:72:10:aa", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", > ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth1" > > > Therefore it is quite strange that a rename event is triggered having > two persistent eth0 and eth1. > > Now I can see that the forcedeth module is working on the > becoming-eth1 interface, but starting from eth0: > > [ 1.146611] forcedeth: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. > Version 0.64. > [ 1.668624] forcedeth 0000:00:0a.0: ifname eth0, PHY OUI 0x1374 @ > 1, addr 00:24:8c:72:10:aa > [ 1.668628] forcedeth 0000:00:0a.0: highdma csum pwrctl mgmt gbit > lnktim msi desc-v3 > [ 20.180063] forcedeth 0000:00:0a.0: irq 42 for MSI/MSI-X > [ 20.180100] forcedeth 0000:00:0a.0 eth1: MSI enabled > > > Now, from systemd-udevd(8) I got: > net.ifnames= > Network interfaces are renamed to give them predictable > names when possible. It is enabled by default, specifying 0 disables > it. > > Therefore udevd renames interfaces by default, how and why in my case > is unclear to me. > > Luca You can delete the 70-persistent-net.rules file, then reboot. The system will make a new file based on what devices it finds. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Wed Apr 15 15:41:49 2015 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 10:41:49 -0500 Subject: newest kernel not running In-Reply-To: References: <552BD980.3070909@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: <552E86BD.7080909@lyonlabs.org> On 04/15/2015 06:05 AM, Chris Luck wrote: > On 13/04/15 15:58, Glenn Holmer wrote: >> I'm working on a machine (hosted, for a job, not mine) where, after >> I ran updates, the latest kernel didn't boot. It's Ubuntu 14.04.2 >> LTS, and I'm seeing kernels 3.13.0-36, -37, -43, and -49 in /boot, >> but "uname -a" shows that -43 is running. Synaptic tells me that >> linux-generic's installed version is -49. Also, -49 is at the top of >> the list in grub.cfg. I can't see the machine booting or pause the >> GRUB menu because it's a hosted VM. >> >> Any ideas how I can diagnose this? > I solved the matter by following the guidance in message #16 here - > I finally noticed this output during software updates: The link /vmlinuz is a damaged link Removing symbolic link vmlinuz you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub] And sure enough, the vmlinuz and initrd.img links in the root directory were gone. I re-created them (to point to -49) and re-installed 3.13.0-49; now both the vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old symlinks point to -49, but after a reboot, "uname -a" still shows 3.13.0-43! I don't know that GRUB even uses those symlinks, but I'm really stumped at this point. I've never seen anything quite like this before. If I were sitting in front of the console, I'd write a custom GRUB cfg that would force that kernel to load, but as this is a hosted VM, I'm afraid to lock myself out by rendering it unbootable. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From chris at bvhg.freeserve.co.uk Wed Apr 15 16:57:05 2015 From: chris at bvhg.freeserve.co.uk (Chris Luck) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 17:57:05 +0100 Subject: newest kernel not running In-Reply-To: <552E86BD.7080909@lyonlabs.org> References: <552BD980.3070909@lyonlabs.org> <552E86BD.7080909@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: On 15/04/15 16:41, Glenn Holmer wrote: > If I were sitting in front of the console, I'd write a custom GRUB > cfg that would force that kernel to load, but as this is a hosted VM, > I'm afraid to lock myself out by rendering it unbootable. This is too murky for me to cope with. I am not familiar with the ramifications of a hosted VM, can you clone the VM so you can play with it? -- Regards, Chris Luck From rjlapham at gmail.com Thu Apr 16 02:02:38 2015 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:02:38 -0400 Subject: Why has wine quit working? Message-ID: <2100842.CblM1QJKkA@jerry-hp> I'm trying to run Quicken 2008 under wine on a 64bit Kubuntu 12.04 LTS, which I've been able to do until the last month or so. When I try to start it I get the following: jerry at JERRY-HP:~$ env WINEPREFIX="/home/jerry/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files (x86)\Quicken\qw.exe" wine: failed to initialize: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/wine/ntdll.dll.so) How do I get wine to work? -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= Walk to Emmaus: Fueling station for a spirit-filled church -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gbonnema at xs4all.nl Thu Apr 16 06:22:37 2015 From: gbonnema at xs4all.nl (A.J. Bonnema) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 08:22:37 +0200 Subject: Why has wine quit working? In-Reply-To: <2100842.CblM1QJKkA@jerry-hp> References: <2100842.CblM1QJKkA@jerry-hp> Message-ID: <552F552D.8080808@xs4all.nl> On 16-04-15 04:02, Jerry Lapham wrote: > > I'm trying to run Quicken 2008 under wine on a 64bit Kubuntu 12.04 > LTS, which I've been able to do until the last month or so. > > When I try to start it I get the following: > > jerry at JERRY-HP:~$ env WINEPREFIX="/home/jerry/.wine" wine "C:\Program > Files (x86)\Quicken\qw.exe" > > wine: failed to initialize: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version > `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/wine/ntdll.dll.so) > > How do I get wine to work? > > Hey Jerry, Sounds like you are missing a glibc. Check your software repo which one you have, and if you don't have it, install it. P.S. As you are running 64 bit kubuntu, remark that wine is always 32 bits and requires 32-bit programs and libraries. So the glibc implied here should be 32-bit as well. 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So the glibc implied >here should be 32-bit as well. http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64 From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Thu Apr 16 12:42:54 2015 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 07:42:54 -0500 Subject: newest kernel not running [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: References: <552BD980.3070909@lyonlabs.org> <552E86BD.7080909@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: <552FAE4E.2010606@lyonlabs.org> On 04/15/2015 11:57 AM, Chris Luck wrote: > On 15/04/15 16:41, Glenn Holmer wrote: > >> If I were sitting in front of the console, I'd write a custom GRUB >> cfg that would force that kernel to load, but as this is a hosted VM, >> I'm afraid to lock myself out by rendering it unbootable. > > > This is too murky for me to cope with. I am not familiar with the > ramifications of a hosted VM, can you clone the VM so you can play with it? Beating my head against the wall for nothing. The hosting company's dashboard interface lets you select a kernel; they control which kernel the VM boots from. I'd love to know how they do that (they're using KVM). -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From jimmckenzie at earthlink.net Fri Apr 17 05:50:23 2015 From: jimmckenzie at earthlink.net (James R McKenzie) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 01:50:23 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Can't reactivate Special Video Effects after failed attempt with Kernel 4.0.0 (64 - Bit) Message-ID: <14419955.1429249823645.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> The failed attempt with Kernel 4.0.0 basically manifested with no sound support. As far as Video Effects, Stuff like "Falling Apart" and "Wobbly Windows" quit working even though I completely removed Kernel 4.0.0 (64 - Bit) and reverted back to Kernel 3.19.2 where they effects "All" worked fine before. I've tried switching drivers and then going back to the driver that worked just fine before which believe it or not is the Nvidia Nouveau driver. Open-GL won't work with anything else. As for the newer drivers that have been coming out in the last few weeks my desktop (GUI) won't launch at all with any of them so Nvidia 346.35 not only didn't go well it didn't go at all. None of the other De-facto Drivers that came with 14.10 worked either (304.125, 304. 125 Updates, 311.113 & 311.113 Updates) FYI My Video Card is A PNY Nvidia GT 630 with 2GB of RAM. I don't know what else to include in this so if there is anything else ask for that specifically and see what I can do to fill in the blanks. Thanks In Advance for any/all help. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Apr 17 06:13:30 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 08:13:30 +0200 Subject: Can't reactivate Special Video Effects after failed attempt with Kernel 4.0.0 (64 - Bit) In-Reply-To: <14419955.1429249823645.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <14419955.1429249823645.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5530A48A.1090903@gmail.com> On 17/04/2015 07:50, James R McKenzie wrote: > The failed attempt with Kernel 4.0.0 basically manifested with no sound support. > > As far as Video Effects, Stuff like "Falling Apart" and "Wobbly Windows" quit working even though I completely removed Kernel 4.0.0 (64 - Bit) > and reverted back to Kernel 3.19.2 where they effects "All" worked fine before. I've tried switching drivers and then going back to the driver that worked just fine before which believe it or not is the Nvidia Nouveau driver. Open-GL won't work with anything else. As for the newer drivers that have been coming out in the last few weeks my desktop (GUI) won't launch at all with any of them so Nvidia 346.35 not only didn't go well it didn't go at all. None of the other De-facto Drivers that came with 14.10 worked either (304.125, 304. > 125 Updates, 311.113 & 311.113 Updates) > > FYI My Video Card is A PNY Nvidia GT 630 with 2GB of RAM. I don't know what else to include in this so if there is anything else ask for that specifically and see what I can do to fill in the blanks. > > Thanks In Advance for any/all help. > Have you checked that the Desktop Effects - Advanced has not reverted to "Xrender" that normally (for me at least) does not work with a number of effects? I have also toyed around with kernel 4.0 and found that in many rc version it would not recognize any usb-devices or sd-cards inserted. The final version seems OK though From ralsa at openmailbox.org Fri Apr 17 09:18:41 2015 From: ralsa at openmailbox.org (Carlos) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 11:18:41 +0200 Subject: Folder plasmoid does not work In-Reply-To: <552FAE4E.2010606@lyonlabs.org> References: <552BD980.3070909@lyonlabs.org> <552FAE4E.2010606@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: <6571426.aBNBbdVkP2@anibal> Folder plasmoid doesn't work. The plasmoid does not show content and and causes an error kdeinit when trying to launch the associated application. From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Fri Apr 17 11:08:31 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 04:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 14.04 Questions Message-ID: Just got my machine back from the shop, with a hardware upgrade, and now with 14.04 installed, and I've got a slew of questions. I'll try and limit them to a few at a time. 1st, what happened to the little cubes down in the panel, the ones you click on to go to different desktops? 2nd, What happened to being able to go to different screen resolutions with ctrl alt plus or minus? Neither feature is in evidence. Bill From kassube at gmx.net Fri Apr 17 11:44:25 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 13:44:25 +0200 Subject: 14.04 Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1632979.hurEqYOUSi@p5915> Bill Vance wrote: > 1st, what happened to the little cubes down in > the panel, the ones you click on to go to > different desktops? Different desktops are replaced by different activities in the default settings. Please don't ask me in which way that is an improvement, I have only had troubles with activities. Anyway, you can use several desktops again if you go to systemsettings -> Workspace Behavior -> Virtual Desktops. There you can increase the number of desktops from 1 to the number you prefer. I'm not sure if you also have to add a widget to the panel to switch desktops or if it appears automatically. Nils From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Fri Apr 17 13:40:37 2015 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey (grokit)) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:40:37 -0400 Subject: 14.04 Questions In-Reply-To: <1632979.hurEqYOUSi@p5915> References: <1632979.hurEqYOUSi@p5915> Message-ID: <1768211.QChRqH3R7S@kirk> On Friday, April 17, 2015 1:44:25 PM Nils Kassube wrote: > Bill Vance wrote: > > 1st, what happened to the little cubes down in > > the panel, the ones you click on to go to > > different desktops? > > Different desktops are replaced by different activities in the default > settings. Please don't ask me in which way that is an improvement, I > have only had troubles with activities. Anyway, you can use several > desktops again if you go to systemsettings -> Workspace Behavior -> > Virtual Desktops. There you can increase the number of desktops from 1 > to the number you prefer. I'm not sure if you also have to add a widget > to the panel to switch desktops or if it appears automatically. > > > Nils > > > FYI: The widget with the little cubes is called "Pager" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Apr 17 13:44:30 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:44:30 +0200 Subject: 14.04 Questions In-Reply-To: <1632979.hurEqYOUSi@p5915> References: <1632979.hurEqYOUSi@p5915> Message-ID: <55310E3E.2050607@gmail.com> On 17/04/2015 13:44, Nils Kassube wrote: > Bill Vance wrote: >> 1st, what happened to the little cubes down in >> the panel, the ones you click on to go to >> different desktops? > > Different desktops are replaced by different activities in the default > settings. Please don't ask me in which way that is an improvement, I > have only had troubles with activities. Anyway, you can use several > desktops again if you go to systemsettings -> Workspace Behavior -> > Virtual Desktops. There you can increase the number of desktops from 1 > to the number you prefer. I'm not sure if you also have to add a widget > to the panel to switch desktops or if it appears automatically. > you will likely have to add a panel widget, "pager" I think it is called. I remove every trace of activities myself as they do not represent how I normally handle my workflow personally I think the whole Activities concept is a bit overambitious ala Akonadi I use 2-3 desktops geared towards work, personal, social. But I see few, if any, advantages in opening these in some kind of "frozen as you you left them" state. Note this a personal opinion, I may misunderstand the whole concept. From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Fri Apr 17 23:16:51 2015 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 16:16:51 -0700 Subject: Folder plasmoid does not work In-Reply-To: <6571426.aBNBbdVkP2@anibal> References: <552BD980.3070909@lyonlabs.org> <552FAE4E.2010606@lyonlabs.org> <6571426.aBNBbdVkP2@anibal> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:18 AM, Carlos wrote: > Folder plasmoid doesn't work. The plasmoid does not show content and and > causes an error kdeinit when trying to launch the associated application. Carlos, could you give some context here? For instance, which version of Kubuntu are you running? Valorie From faptagon at gmail.com Sat Apr 18 02:05:15 2015 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 19:05:15 -0700 Subject: 14.04 Questions In-Reply-To: <55310E3E.2050607@gmail.com> References: <1632979.hurEqYOUSi@p5915> <55310E3E.2050607@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks gang, I'll try to find pager. What about my other question, though? Seems like the functionality is just going away for nothing anyone wants. Bill On 4/17/15, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 17/04/2015 13:44, Nils Kassube wrote: >> Bill Vance wrote: >>> 1st, what happened to the little cubes down in >>> the panel, the ones you click on to go to >>> different desktops? >> >> Different desktops are replaced by different activities in the default >> settings. Please don't ask me in which way that is an improvement, I >> have only had troubles with activities. Anyway, you can use several >> desktops again if you go to systemsettings -> Workspace Behavior -> >> Virtual Desktops. There you can increase the number of desktops from 1 >> to the number you prefer. I'm not sure if you also have to add a widget >> to the panel to switch desktops or if it appears automatically. >> > you will likely have to add a panel widget, "pager" I think it is > called. I remove every trace of activities myself as they do not > represent how I normally handle my workflow > > personally I think the whole Activities concept is a bit overambitious > ala Akonadi > > I use 2-3 desktops geared towards work, personal, social. But I see few, > if any, advantages in opening these in some kind of "frozen as you you > left them" state. Note this a personal opinion, I may misunderstand the > whole concept. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Apr 18 03:55:28 2015 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 13:55:28 +1000 Subject: btrfs - don't do it! Message-ID: Thought I'd give a spin with a clean 14.10 install. Installed fine and has worked fine several months. I never really used the snapshot features except to play with. Had a hard reset last week (power outage). Booted up ok but have been plagued by weird disk errors ever since - continual problems with operations failing due to lack of disk space, despite there being multiple 10's of GB spare. Increasing numbers of system errors. Forcing a fsck on reboot fixed the problems for a while but they would return within a few hours. Today plasma would not start. Research on the net shows a number of people reporting problems after hard resets. I'm reinstalling a clean image with ext4 -- Lindsay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sat Apr 18 04:32:20 2015 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 21:32:20 -0700 Subject: 14.04 Questions In-Reply-To: References: <1632979.hurEqYOUSi@p5915> <55310E3E.2050607@gmail.com> Message-ID: Whether or not the pager is put into the standard taskbar is set up by the distro, as far as I know. Nothing is going away. You can have as many virtual desktops as you want, just like you always have. "Nothing nobody wants"? The developers work on what *they* want. More help is always welcome - this is free software, made by people. Those who contribute are the ones guiding the development direction. And there are LOTS of areas needed volunteers besides coding, such as documentation, artwork, design, translations, web work, sysadmin, list administration, IRC channel operators, and on and on. If you are interested in helping out, we can use your help. Valorie On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Bill vance wrote: > Thanks gang, I'll try to find pager. What about my other question, though? > Seems like the functionality is just going away for nothing anyone wants. > > Bill > > > On 4/17/15, O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 17/04/2015 13:44, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> Bill Vance wrote: >>>> 1st, what happened to the little cubes down in >>>> the panel, the ones you click on to go to >>>> different desktops? >>> >>> Different desktops are replaced by different activities in the default >>> settings. Please don't ask me in which way that is an improvement, I >>> have only had troubles with activities. Anyway, you can use several >>> desktops again if you go to systemsettings -> Workspace Behavior -> >>> Virtual Desktops. There you can increase the number of desktops from 1 >>> to the number you prefer. I'm not sure if you also have to add a widget >>> to the panel to switch desktops or if it appears automatically. >>> >> you will likely have to add a panel widget, "pager" I think it is >> called. I remove every trace of activities myself as they do not >> represent how I normally handle my workflow >> >> personally I think the whole Activities concept is a bit overambitious >> ala Akonadi >> >> I use 2-3 desktops geared towards work, personal, social. But I see few, >> if any, advantages in opening these in some kind of "frozen as you you >> left them" state. Note this a personal opinion, I may misunderstand the >> whole concept. -- http://about.me/valoriez From cody.smith9202 at gmail.com Sat Apr 18 04:38:20 2015 From: cody.smith9202 at gmail.com (Cody Smith) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 21:38:20 -0700 Subject: btrfs - don't do it! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And why did you think BTRFS would be usable? it's nowhere near stable, and leagues behind ZFS (which is the filesystem in BSD BTRFS is /supposedly/ competing with, and it's doing just that, but very poorly). BTRFS still has a long ways to go before it's stable enough to be used by most users. --c_smith On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Lindsay Mathieson < lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com> wrote: > Thought I'd give a spin with a clean 14.10 install. > > Installed fine and has worked fine several months. I never really used the > snapshot features except to play with. > > > Had a hard reset last week (power outage). Booted up ok but have been > plagued by weird disk errors ever since - continual problems with > operations failing due to lack of disk space, despite there being multiple > 10's of GB spare. Increasing numbers of system errors. > > Forcing a fsck on reboot fixed the problems for a while but they would > return within a few hours. Today plasma would not start. > > Research on the net shows a number of people reporting problems after hard > resets. I'm reinstalling a clean image with ext4 > > -- > Lindsay > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Apr 18 05:32:31 2015 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:32:31 +1000 Subject: btrfs - don't do it! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 18 April 2015 at 14:38, Cody Smith wrote: > And why did you think BTRFS would be usable? Because OpenSUSE is now defaulting to it, so I thought I'd give it a spin. I suspect its going to give them a world of grief. > it's nowhere near stable, and leagues behind ZFS (which is the filesystem > in BSD BTRFS is /supposedly/ competing with, and it's doing just that, but > very poorly). BTRFS still has a long ways to go before it's stable enough > to be used by most users. Oh I don't disagree and I very much wish ZFS was availble for easy boot/root partition installs for the ubuntu range. I uses it at work for shared storage for a VM Cluster - RAIDZ setup with SSD ZIL/Slog caching, its great. -- Lindsay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Apr 18 06:25:49 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:25:49 +0200 Subject: 14.04 Questions In-Reply-To: References: <1632979.hurEqYOUSi@p5915> <55310E3E.2050607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5531F8ED.2000808@gmail.com> On 18/04/2015 06:32, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Whether or not the pager is put into the standard taskbar is set up by > the distro, as far as I know. > > Nothing is going away. You can have as many virtual desktops as you > want, just like you always have. > > "Nothing nobody wants"? The developers work on what *they* want. More > help is always welcome - this is free software, made by people. Those > who contribute are the ones guiding the development direction. > > And there are LOTS of areas needed volunteers besides coding, such as > documentation, artwork, design, translations, web work, sysadmin, list > administration, IRC channel operators, and on and on. If you are > interested in helping out, we can use your help. > > Valorie > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Bill vance wrote: >> Thanks gang, I'll try to find pager. What about my other question, though? >> Seems like the functionality is just going away for nothing anyone wants. >> >> Bill >> >> >> On 4/17/15, O. Sinclair wrote: >>> On 17/04/2015 13:44, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>> Bill Vance wrote: >>>>> 1st, what happened to the little cubes down in >>>>> the panel, the ones you click on to go to >>>>> different desktops? >>>> >>>> Different desktops are replaced by different activities in the default >>>> settings. Please don't ask me in which way that is an improvement, I >>>> have only had troubles with activities. Anyway, you can use several >>>> desktops again if you go to systemsettings -> Workspace Behavior -> >>>> Virtual Desktops. There you can increase the number of desktops from 1 >>>> to the number you prefer. I'm not sure if you also have to add a widget >>>> to the panel to switch desktops or if it appears automatically. >>>> >>> you will likely have to add a panel widget, "pager" I think it is >>> called. I remove every trace of activities myself as they do not >>> represent how I normally handle my workflow >>> >>> personally I think the whole Activities concept is a bit overambitious >>> ala Akonadi >>> >>> I use 2-3 desktops geared towards work, personal, social. But I see few, >>> if any, advantages in opening these in some kind of "frozen as you you >>> left them" state. Note this a personal opinion, I may misunderstand the >>> whole concept. > I don't think I said anything like ""Nothing nobody wants", if you relate to my comment?? I just stated that the Activities concept does not work for me and I think it is an approach to workflow that is overambitious, as I think the Akonadi idea is an overambitious approach to searchable database of "everything" From kassube at gmx.net Sat Apr 18 06:29:07 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:29:07 +0200 Subject: 14.04 Questions In-Reply-To: References: <55310E3E.2050607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1874126.yXylDSZhxT@p5915> Bill vance wrote: > Thanks gang, I'll try to find pager. What about my other question, > though? Seems like the functionality is just going away for nothing > anyone wants. That was the question about switching screen resolutions ... It may depend on the graphics driver you are using, but I'm not sure. With my nvidia card the default was only the best resolution my monitor can use. I made my own xorg.conf (for the proprietary nvidia driver) which includes the resolutions I want to use. With that xorg.conf I can switch resolutions like it has always worked. Nils From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Sat Apr 18 13:39:41 2015 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:39:41 -0500 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions In-Reply-To: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> References: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: <55325E9D.7070905@lyonlabs.org> On 04/07/2015 06:25 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343875 > > I'm still seeing this with beta 2 and current patches. I'm concerned, > since the scheduled release date is 2015-04-23. Surely it's not going to > go out the door like that? Since we're in freeze now, it looks like Kubuntu 15.04 will be released with this bug unfixed. I'm very disappointed. What can I do to raise its visibility with the developers? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From kassube at gmx.net Sat Apr 18 14:27:39 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 16:27:39 +0200 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions In-Reply-To: <55325E9D.7070905@lyonlabs.org> References: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> <55325E9D.7070905@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: <1947982.xfrtF4BK07@p5915> Glenn Holmer wrote: > On 04/07/2015 06:25 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343875 > > I'm still seeing this with beta 2 and current patches. I'm > > concerned, > > since the scheduled release date is 2015-04-23. Surely it's not > > going to go out the door like that? > > Since we're in freeze now, it looks like Kubuntu 15.04 will be > released with this bug unfixed. I'm very disappointed. > > What can I do to raise its visibility with the developers? Send a patch? But seriously, it looks like an unfixed upstream bug. And it doesn't even look like a showstopper bug to me, although it isn't nice for people using the feature of restoring a manually saved session. Therefore I wouldn't expect a fix in 15.04. OTOH, as a workaround you could start with an empty session and run your beloved applications from the ~/.kde/Autostart/ folder with a script like this: #!/bin/bash kstart --desktop 1 konsole sleep 10 kstart --desktop 8 firefox >From past experience I remember that placing applications on different desktops didn't work well without a delay between the kstart commands, that's why I used the extra sleep command. Perhaps the sleep command may not be necessary or the 10 seconds delay could be reduced on your machine. Nils From rjlapham at gmail.com Sun Apr 19 03:55:20 2015 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 23:55:20 -0400 Subject: Why has wine quit working? In-Reply-To: <552F552D.8080808@xs4all.nl> References: <2100842.CblM1QJKkA@jerry-hp> <552F552D.8080808@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <2067926.gLNefd8skD@jerry-hp> On Thursday, April 16, 2015 08:22:37 AM A.J. Bonnema wrote: > On 16-04-15 04:02, Jerry Lapham wrote: > > I'm trying to run Quicken 2008 under wine on a 64bit Kubuntu 12.04 > > LTS, which I've been able to do until the last month or so. > > > > When I try to start it I get the following: > > > > jerry at JERRY-HP:~$ env WINEPREFIX="/home/jerry/.wine" wine "C:\Program > > Files (x86)\Quicken\qw.exe" > > > > wine: failed to initialize: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version > > `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by > > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/wine/ntdll.dll.so) > > > > How do I get wine to work? > > Hey Jerry, > > Sounds like you are missing a glibc. Check your software repo which one > you have, and if you don't have it, install it. > > P.S. As you are running 64 bit kubuntu, remark that wine is always 32 > bits and requires 32-bit programs and libraries. So the glibc implied > here should be 32-bit as well. Yes, that's the problem. I'm running 12.04 and my 32-bit libc.so.6 points to libc-2.15.so, which is 12.04's highest version. My wine version shows 1.6.2 although Synaptic and Muon show 1.4 as installed. Quicken ran fine on wine until just a few weeks ago. It's a real pain having to boot Windows just to do my bookkeeping. Bottom line: How do I get either wine 1.4 or libc-2.17.so on my 12.04 system? -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= "It's a bitmap," said Tom graphically. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cody.smith9202 at gmail.com Sun Apr 19 04:58:54 2015 From: cody.smith9202 at gmail.com (Cody Smith) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 21:58:54 -0700 Subject: Why has wine quit working? In-Reply-To: <2067926.gLNefd8skD@jerry-hp> References: <2100842.CblM1QJKkA@jerry-hp> <552F552D.8080808@xs4all.nl> <2067926.gLNefd8skD@jerry-hp> Message-ID: I'd purge the WIne packages (won't delete your wine prefixes since those are under your home directory) then reinstall the Wine version you want. If you still run into issues, remove the wineprefix and start again. --c_smith On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Jerry Lapham wrote: > > > On Thursday, April 16, 2015 08:22:37 AM A.J. Bonnema wrote: > > > > > On 16-04-15 04:02, Jerry Lapham wrote: > > > > I'm trying to run Quicken 2008 under wine on a 64bit Kubuntu 12.04 > > > > LTS, which I've been able to do until the last month or so. > > > > > > > > When I try to start it I get the following: > > > > > > > > jerry at JERRY-HP:~$ env WINEPREFIX="/home/jerry/.wine" wine "C:\Program > > > > Files (x86)\Quicken\qw.exe" > > > > > > > > wine: failed to initialize: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version > > > > `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by > > > > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/wine/ntdll.dll.so) > > > > > > > > How do I get wine to work? > > > > > > Hey Jerry, > > > > > > Sounds like you are missing a glibc. Check your software repo which one > > > you have, and if you don't have it, install it. > > > > > > P.S. As you are running 64 bit kubuntu, remark that wine is always 32 > > > bits and requires 32-bit programs and libraries. So the glibc implied > > > here should be 32-bit as well. > > > > Yes, that's the problem. I'm running 12.04 and my 32-bit libc.so.6 points > to libc-2.15.so, which is 12.04's highest version. > > > > My wine version shows 1.6.2 although Synaptic and Muon show 1.4 as > installed. > > > > Quicken ran fine on wine until just a few weeks ago. It's a real pain > having to boot Windows just to do my bookkeeping. > > > > Bottom line: How do I get either wine 1.4 or libc-2.17.so on my 12.04 > system? > > > > -Jerry > > ============================================= > > Jerry Lapham > > Monroe, OH 45050 > > rjlapham at gmail.com > > ============================================= > > "It's a bitmap," said Tom graphically. > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Sun Apr 19 13:30:30 2015 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 20:30:30 +0700 Subject: Why has wine quit working? In-Reply-To: <2067926.gLNefd8skD@jerry-hp> References: <2100842.CblM1QJKkA@jerry-hp> <552F552D.8080808@xs4all.nl> <2067926.gLNefd8skD@jerry-hp> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Jerry Lapham wrote: > > > > > Yes, that's the problem. I'm running 12.04 and my 32-bit libc.so.6 points > to libc-2.15.so, which is 12.04's highest version. > > > > My wine version shows 1.6.2 although Synaptic and Muon show 1.4 as > installed. > > > > Quicken ran fine on wine until just a few weeks ago. It's a real pain > having to boot Windows just to do my bookkeeping. > > > > Bottom line: How do I get either wine 1.4 or libc-2.17.so on my 12.04 > system? > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/2980507/+listing-archive-extra https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+files/wine1.4-i386_1.4.1-0ubuntu1%7Eprecise1%7Eppa4_i386.deb DK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ralsa at openmailbox.org Mon Apr 20 07:39:32 2015 From: ralsa at openmailbox.org (Carlos) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 09:39:32 +0200 Subject: Folder plasmoid does not work In-Reply-To: References: <552BD980.3070909@lyonlabs.org> <552FAE4E.2010606@lyonlabs.org> <6571426.aBNBbdVkP2@anibal> Message-ID: <5534AD34.3060401@openmailbox.org> Sorry Im' testing Kubuntu 15.04 Beta 2. El 18/04/2015 a las 1:16, Valorie Zimmerman escribió: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:18 AM, Carlos wrote: >> Folder plasmoid doesn't work. The plasmoid does not show content and and >> causes an error kdeinit when trying to launch the associated application. > Carlos, could you give some context here? For instance, which version > of Kubuntu are you running? > > Valorie > From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Tue Apr 21 03:18:15 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Neat Trick Message-ID: If you use a file manager very much, here's a neat trick you might find handy. Just run the following bash snippet. cd /home/$USER/Desktop ; Name=$(cat /etc/hostname) ; ln -s / $Name ; cd - Now look in your Desktop window, (on your Desktop, natch). Happy clicking. Bill From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Tue Apr 21 07:26:29 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 00:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Neat Trick In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oops! The wordwrapping made it a little less plain than intended. Try it this way. cd /home/$USER/Desktop Name=$(cat /etc/hostname) ln -s / $Name cd - Bill On Mon, 20 Apr 2015, Bill Vance wrote: > If you use a file manager very much, here's a neat > trick you might find handy. Just run the following > bash snippet. > > cd /home/$USER/Desktop ; Name=$(cat /etc/hostname) ; ln -s / > $Name ; cd - > > Now look in your Desktop window, (on your Desktop, natch). > > Happy clicking. > > Bill > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From kassube at gmx.net Tue Apr 21 07:37:32 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 09:37:32 +0200 Subject: Neat Trick In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2022502.WDExQKVNUx@p5915> Bill Vance wrote: > Oops! The wordwrapping made it a little less plain than > intended. Try it this way. > > > cd /home/$USER/Desktop > Name=$(cat /etc/hostname) > ln -s / $Name > cd - Or just a single command: ln -s / ~/Desktop/$(cat /etc/hostname) But what's it good for? Nils From faptagon at gmail.com Tue Apr 21 08:00:15 2015 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 01:00:15 -0700 Subject: 14.04 Questions In-Reply-To: <1874126.yXylDSZhxT@p5915> References: <55310E3E.2050607@gmail.com> <1874126.yXylDSZhxT@p5915> Message-ID: On 4/17/15, Nils Kassube wrote: > Bill vance wrote: >> Thanks gang, I'll try to find pager. What about my other question, >> though? Seems like the functionality is just going away for nothing >> anyone wants. > > That was the question about switching screen resolutions ... > > It may depend on the graphics driver you are using, but I'm not sure. > With my nvidia card the default was only the best resolution my monitor > can use. I made my own xorg.conf (for the proprietary nvidia driver) > which includes the resolutions I want to use. With that xorg.conf I can > switch resolutions like it has always worked. > > > Nils Can you suggest a source of info about how to do that? I can recall dealing with that sort of thing years ago, but that was on Caldera Linux; Ancient History. I don't even know where they hide it these days. Bill From faptagon at gmail.com Tue Apr 21 08:05:56 2015 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 01:05:56 -0700 Subject: Neat Trick In-Reply-To: <2022502.WDExQKVNUx@p5915> References: <2022502.WDExQKVNUx@p5915> Message-ID: On 4/21/15, Nils Kassube wrote: > Bill Vance wrote: >> Oops! The wordwrapping made it a little less plain than >> intended. Try it this way. >> >> >> cd /home/$USER/Desktop >> Name=$(cat /etc/hostname) >> ln -s / $Name >> cd - > > Or just a single command: > > ln -s / ~/Desktop/$(cat /etc/hostname) > > But what's it good for? > > > Nils Try it and see. If you don't want it then, use, "rm", on it. Bill From kassube at gmx.net Tue Apr 21 08:42:57 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:42:57 +0200 Subject: 14.04 Questions In-Reply-To: References: <1874126.yXylDSZhxT@p5915> Message-ID: <18569599.yi1QRdjhrT@p5915> Bill vance wrote: > On 4/17/15, Nils Kassube wrote: > > Bill vance wrote: > >> Thanks gang, I'll try to find pager. What about my other question, > >> though? Seems like the functionality is just going away for nothing > >> anyone wants. > > > > That was the question about switching screen resolutions ... > > > > It may depend on the graphics driver you are using, but I'm not > > sure. > > With my nvidia card the default was only the best resolution my > > monitor can use. I made my own xorg.conf (for the proprietary > > nvidia driver) which includes the resolutions I want to use. With > > that xorg.conf I can switch resolutions like it has always worked. > > Can you suggest a source of info about how to do that? I can recall > dealing with that sort of thing years ago, but that was on Caldera > Linux; Ancient History. I don't even know where they hide it these > days. I don't remember how I created the xorg.conf - probably I reused an old file from a time when it was still needed by the X server. Anyway, here is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf which uses the proprietary nvidia driver: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout0" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" EndSection Section "Files" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" Option "BlankTime" "0" Option "NoPM" "1" Option "StandbyTime" "0" Option "SuspendTime" "0" Option "OffTime" "0" Option "DefaultServerLayout" "Layout0" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # generated from default Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # generated from default Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Samsung SyncMaster" HorizSync 30.0 - 81.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Device0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Device0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 Option "TwinView" "0" Option "metamodes" "1600x1200 +0+0; 1280x960 +0+0; 1024x768 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0" SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section "Module" Disable "evdev" Endsection I suppose you can't use it directly as it is unlikely that you have the same monitor. Furthermore you may not like that I have disabled screen blanking. So check each line before you use it in your own file. Perhaps it would be sufficient if you only use the section "Screen". Nils From kassube at gmx.net Tue Apr 21 08:30:52 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:30:52 +0200 Subject: Neat Trick In-Reply-To: References: <2022502.WDExQKVNUx@p5915> Message-ID: <1570840.3hKOdyIL9i@p5915> Bill vance wrote: > On 4/21/15, Nils Kassube wrote: > > Bill Vance wrote: > >> Oops! The wordwrapping made it a little less plain than > >> intended. Try it this way. > >> > >> > >> cd /home/$USER/Desktop > >> Name=$(cat /etc/hostname) > >> ln -s / $Name > >> cd - > > > > Or just a single command: > > > > ln -s / ~/Desktop/$(cat /etc/hostname) > > > > But what's it good for? > > Try it and see. If you don't want it then, use, "rm", on it. Well, I don't see any change to my desktop, that's why I asked. Nils From phillipj at ptd.net Tue Apr 21 10:28:15 2015 From: phillipj at ptd.net (Phillip Johnson) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 06:28:15 -0400 Subject: Neat Trick In-Reply-To: <1570840.3hKOdyIL9i@p5915> References: <2022502.WDExQKVNUx@p5915> <1570840.3hKOdyIL9i@p5915> Message-ID: <20150421062815.3ab6a0d3@sandtiger> On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:30:52 +0200 Nils Kassube wrote: > Bill vance wrote: > > On 4/21/15, Nils Kassube wrote: > > > Bill Vance wrote: > > >> Oops! The wordwrapping made it a little less plain than > > >> intended. Try it this way. > > >> > > >> > > >> cd /home/$USER/Desktop > > >> Name=$(cat /etc/hostname) > > >> ln -s / $Name > > >> cd - > > > > > > Or just a single command: > > > > > > ln -s / ~/Desktop/$(cat /etc/hostname) > > > > > > But what's it good for? > > > > Try it and see. If you don't want it then, use, "rm", on it. > > Well, I don't see any change to my desktop, that's why I asked. > > > Nils > > On my system, it simply places an icon on the desktop with the local machine name. Opening the icon lists the "/" directory. Hope that helps, Phil From kassube at gmx.net Tue Apr 21 10:37:27 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 12:37:27 +0200 Subject: Neat Trick In-Reply-To: <1570840.3hKOdyIL9i@p5915> References: <1570840.3hKOdyIL9i@p5915> Message-ID: <4675227.0v9eQqGJj9@p5915> Nils Kassube wrote: > Bill vance wrote: > > On 4/21/15, Nils Kassube wrote: > > > Bill Vance wrote: > > >> Oops! The wordwrapping made it a little less plain than > > >> intended. Try it this way. > > >> > > >> > > >> cd /home/$USER/Desktop > > >> Name=$(cat /etc/hostname) > > >> ln -s / $Name > > >> cd - > > > > > > Or just a single command: > > > > > > ln -s / ~/Desktop/$(cat /etc/hostname) > > > > > > But what's it good for? > > > > Try it and see. If you don't want it then, use, "rm", on it. > > Well, I don't see any change to my desktop, that's why I asked. I had to play a bit with the desktop settings (in a VM to avoid changes to my current setup) and finally I found it: It seems to work only if you have a folder widget set to show the contents of the specified folder "/home/$USER/Desktop". But I don't have that on my desktop and the live-dvd image of Kubuntu 14.04 doesn't have it either by default. Nils From kde.lists at yahoo.com Tue Apr 21 10:55:55 2015 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 12:55:55 +0200 Subject: Neat Trick In-Reply-To: <2022502.WDExQKVNUx@p5915> References: <2022502.WDExQKVNUx@p5915> Message-ID: <20150421125555.38315cd0@archlinux> On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 09:37:32 +0200, Nils Kassube wrote: >Or just a single command: > >ln -s / ~/Desktop/$(cat /etc/hostname) Why cat the file /etc/hostname? Why not using the command hostname? ln -s / ~/Desktop/$(hostname) ;) From kde.lists at yahoo.com Tue Apr 21 11:09:39 2015 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 13:09:39 +0200 Subject: Neat Trick In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20150421130939.18fda5f9@archlinux> On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:18:15 -0700 (PDT), Bill Vance wrote: >cd /home/$USER/Desktop The $USER variable is tricky and could display another user than expected, that's why scripts should use $(id -u) when checking for root and for your task you should consider using ~ or $HOME instead of /home/$USER/. $ echo ~ $USER $HOME $(id -u) /home/rocketmouse rocketmouse /home/rocketmouse 1000 $ su # echo ~ $USER $HOME $(id -u) /root rocketmouse /root 0 # exit $ sudo -i # echo ~ $USER $HOME $(id -u) /root root /root 0 # logout $ From buzzmandt at gmail.com Tue Apr 21 15:15:30 2015 From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:15:30 -0400 Subject: 15.04 kwallet Message-ID: Have one machine fully updated (as of 4/21) and can't disable kwallet. When loading kwallet to get to its options it locks up. We really dislike kwallet, is there a way to disable it using the terminal? Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Tue Apr 21 18:54:03 2015 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 14:54:03 -0400 Subject: Neat Trick In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55369CCB.1030009@optonline.net> On 04/21/2015 03:26 AM, Bill Vance wrote: > > > Oops! The wordwrapping made it a little less plain than > intended. Try it this way. > > > cd /home/$USER/Desktop > Name=$(cat /etc/hostname) > ln -s / $Name > cd - > > > Bill > > On Mon, 20 Apr 2015, Bill Vance wrote: > >> If you use a file manager very much, here's a neat >> trick you might find handy. Just run the following >> bash snippet. >> >> cd /home/$USER/Desktop ; Name=$(cat /etc/hostname) ; ln -s / $Name ; >> cd - >> >> Now look in your Desktop window, (on your Desktop, natch). >> >> Happy clicking. >> >> Bill >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > 1. I don't know if this would work on PCLOS, but if it does, what is it supposed to do? 2. What name goes in the third line? Thanx--doug From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Wed Apr 22 10:58:41 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 03:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Neat Trick In-Reply-To: <4675227.0v9eQqGJj9@p5915> References: <1570840.3hKOdyIL9i@p5915> <4675227.0v9eQqGJj9@p5915> Message-ID: Well, what happens on mine is, a icon bearing my system name comes up in the desktop window, and when clicked on it runs dolphin with the, "/", directory displayed in icons. From some of the replies, I have to say we're learning once again, that in linux there's a zillion ways to do anything, and not all of them work for everyone. :-) Bill On Tue, 21 Apr 2015, Nils Kassube wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: >> Bill vance wrote: >>> On 4/21/15, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>> Bill Vance wrote: >>>>> Oops! The wordwrapping made it a little less plain than >>>>> intended. Try it this way. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> cd /home/$USER/Desktop >>>>> Name=$(cat /etc/hostname) >>>>> ln -s / $Name >>>>> cd - >>>> >>>> Or just a single command: >>>> >>>> ln -s / ~/Desktop/$(cat /etc/hostname) >>>> >>>> But what's it good for? >>> >>> Try it and see. If you don't want it then, use, "rm", on it. >> >> Well, I don't see any change to my desktop, that's why I asked. > > I had to play a bit with the desktop settings (in a VM to avoid changes > to my current setup) and finally I found it: It seems to work only if > you have a folder widget set to show the contents of the specified > folder "/home/$USER/Desktop". But I don't have that on my desktop and > the live-dvd image of Kubuntu 14.04 doesn't have it either by default. > > > Nils > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Wed Apr 22 11:01:07 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 04:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 14.04 Questions In-Reply-To: <18569599.yi1QRdjhrT@p5915> References: <1874126.yXylDSZhxT@p5915> <18569599.yi1QRdjhrT@p5915> Message-ID: Thanks Nils. I'll get to studying on the xorg file. Bill From rjlapham at gmail.com Thu Apr 23 02:12:04 2015 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 22:12:04 -0400 Subject: Surprise! Message-ID: <31783073.Y9cdO7PieH@laptop2> When I booted my desktop into Kubuntu 12.04 today I got the following: Could not start D-Bus. Can you call qdbus? When I clicked on Okay, it took me to the log-on screen, which I normally bypass. It all worked OK yesterday. What could have changed overnight? -Jerry -- ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at cinci.rr.com ============================================= Walk to Emmaus: Fueling station for a spirit-filled church From kassube at gmx.net Thu Apr 23 05:28:59 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 07:28:59 +0200 Subject: Surprise! In-Reply-To: <31783073.Y9cdO7PieH@laptop2> References: <31783073.Y9cdO7PieH@laptop2> Message-ID: <129982088.zDntqd2V06@p5915> Jerry Lapham wrote: > When I booted my desktop into Kubuntu 12.04 today I got the following: > > Could not start D-Bus. Can you call qdbus? > > When I clicked on Okay, it took me to the log-on screen, which I > normally bypass. > > It all worked OK yesterday. What could have changed overnight? Wrong question. I'd rather ask, what have you done with the machine between the previous boot and shutdown. What is the answer to the question if you can call qdbus? And could you log in when you were at the login screen? I remember that I have seen your error message when I upgraded from 10.04 to the development version of 12.04. The upgrade failed for some reason and I had to manually install the package qdbus. But I don't think you could uninstall that package without removing a lot of other packages, so IMHO it isn't likely that the package vanished somehow. Nils From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Thu Apr 23 12:22:05 2015 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 07:22:05 -0500 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions In-Reply-To: <1947982.xfrtF4BK07@p5915> References: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> <55325E9D.7070905@lyonlabs.org> <1947982.xfrtF4BK07@p5915> Message-ID: <5538E3ED.9050502@lyonlabs.org> On 04/18/2015 09:27 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Glenn Holmer wrote: >> On 04/07/2015 06:25 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: >>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343875 >>> I'm still seeing this with beta 2 and current patches. I'm >>> concerned, >>> since the scheduled release date is 2015-04-23. Surely it's not >>> going to go out the door like that? >> >> Since we're in freeze now, it looks like Kubuntu 15.04 will be >> released with this bug unfixed. I'm very disappointed. >> >> What can I do to raise its visibility with the developers? > > Send a patch? > > But seriously, it looks like an unfixed upstream bug. And it doesn't > even look like a showstopper bug to me, although it isn't nice for > people using the feature of restoring a manually saved session. > Therefore I wouldn't expect a fix in 15.04. I stand by my criticism. This is a very visible feature, and for it just not to work at all reflects badly on Plasma. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From jriddell at ubuntu.com Thu Apr 23 16:05:46 2015 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 18:05:46 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu 15.04 is out Message-ID: Our first release (actually any major distro's) with Plasma 5, try the most beautiful desktop around. http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04 Jonathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul at lemmons.name Thu Apr 23 20:38:42 2015 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 20:38:42 +0000 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions In-Reply-To: <5538E3ED.9050502@lyonlabs.org> References: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> <55325E9D.7070905@lyonlabs.org> <1947982.xfrtF4BK07@p5915> <5538E3ED.9050502@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: I second your criticism. I can deal with it on my laptop but at work where I have 8 desktops and four monitors and start numerous applications when I login, it is not practical. I will have to wait until this and the ability to change shortcuts in Konsole are fixed before I can upgrade there. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 5:22 AM Glenn Holmer wrote: > On 04/18/2015 09:27 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > > Glenn Holmer wrote: > >> On 04/07/2015 06:25 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: > >>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343875 > >>> I'm still seeing this with beta 2 and current patches. I'm > >>> concerned, > >>> since the scheduled release date is 2015-04-23. Surely it's not > >>> going to go out the door like that? > >> > >> Since we're in freeze now, it looks like Kubuntu 15.04 will be > >> released with this bug unfixed. I'm very disappointed. > >> > >> What can I do to raise its visibility with the developers? > > > > Send a patch? > > > > But seriously, it looks like an unfixed upstream bug. And it doesn't > > even look like a showstopper bug to me, although it isn't nice for > > people using the feature of restoring a manually saved session. > > Therefore I wouldn't expect a fix in 15.04. > > I stand by my criticism. This is a very visible feature, and for it just > not to work at all reflects badly on Plasma. > > -- > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) > "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Fri Apr 24 05:07:32 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 07:07:32 +0200 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions In-Reply-To: <5538E3ED.9050502@lyonlabs.org> References: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> <1947982.xfrtF4BK07@p5915> <5538E3ED.9050502@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: <4817592.OWHWVs8kQR@p5915> Glenn Holmer wrote: > On 04/18/2015 09:27 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > > Glenn Holmer wrote: > >> On 04/07/2015 06:25 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: > >>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343875 > >>> I'm still seeing this with beta 2 and current patches. I'm > >>> concerned, > >>> since the scheduled release date is 2015-04-23. Surely it's not > >>> going to go out the door like that? > >> > >> Since we're in freeze now, it looks like Kubuntu 15.04 will be > >> released with this bug unfixed. I'm very disappointed. > >> > >> What can I do to raise its visibility with the developers? > > > > Send a patch? > > > > But seriously, it looks like an unfixed upstream bug. And it doesn't > > even look like a showstopper bug to me, although it isn't nice for > > people using the feature of restoring a manually saved session. > > Therefore I wouldn't expect a fix in 15.04. > > I stand by my criticism. This is a very visible feature, and for it > just not to work at all reflects badly on Plasma. Well, I didn't mean that your disappointment is unfounded, only that it is unlikely that there would be a fix in time. Obviously yesterday 15.04 was released including this bug. BTW: Did you try my workaround with kstart? Nils From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Fri Apr 24 15:01:11 2015 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 10:01:11 -0500 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions In-Reply-To: <4817592.OWHWVs8kQR@p5915> References: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> <1947982.xfrtF4BK07@p5915> <5538E3ED.9050502@lyonlabs.org> <4817592.OWHWVs8kQR@p5915> Message-ID: <553A5AB7.2000206@lyonlabs.org> On 04/24/2015 12:07 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Glenn Holmer wrote: >> I stand by my criticism. This is a very visible feature, and for it >> just not to work at all reflects badly on Plasma. > > Well, I didn't mean that your disappointment is unfounded, only that it > is unlikely that there would be a fix in time. Obviously yesterday 15.04 > was released including this bug. > > BTW: Did you try my workaround with kstart? Yes, I did. It didn't work for me: cenbe at shoggoth:~/.kde/Autostart > ls -l total 4 -rwxrwxr-x 1 cenbe cenbe 75 Apr 24 07:15 session.sh cenbe at shoggoth:~/.kde/Autostart > cat session.sh #!/bin/bash kstart --desktop 1 konsole sleep 10 kstart --desktop 8 firefox cenbe at shoggoth:~/.kde/Autostart > although the script does work if I run it from the command line. I don't know if that location is supposed to magically pick up scripts and run them, but I also tried setting it up from System Settings / Autostart ("Add Script" button), which I couldn't get to work either. I moved the script to ~ and let System Settings create a symlink in ~/.config/autostart, but it doesn't appear to run. Also, after exiting and restarting System Settings, the script is no longer listed there. In any case, I don't want to have to diddle about with scripts and experiment with sleep times; I want the existing feature in the menu to work. Otherwise what is it there for? It makes Plasma look amateurish. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From kassube at gmx.net Fri Apr 24 17:34:12 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 19:34:12 +0200 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions In-Reply-To: <553A5AB7.2000206@lyonlabs.org> References: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> <4817592.OWHWVs8kQR@p5915> <553A5AB7.2000206@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: <6592662.Rvfl7yMT23@p5915> Glenn Holmer wrote: > On 04/24/2015 12:07 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > > BTW: Did you try my workaround with kstart? > > Yes, I did. It didn't work for me: > > cenbe at shoggoth:~/.kde/Autostart > ls -l > total 4 > -rwxrwxr-x 1 cenbe cenbe 75 Apr 24 07:15 session.sh > cenbe at shoggoth:~/.kde/Autostart > cat session.sh > #!/bin/bash > kstart --desktop 1 konsole > sleep 10 > kstart --desktop 8 firefox > cenbe at shoggoth:~/.kde/Autostart > > > although the script does work if I run it from the command line. I > don't know if that location is supposed to magically pick up scripts > and run them, At least this location worked in the past (14.04). Copy or symlink a script there and it is automatically started. > but I also tried setting it up from System Settings / > Autostart ("Add Script" button), which I couldn't get to work either. > I moved the script to ~ and let System Settings create a symlink in > ~/.config/autostart, but it doesn't appear to run. Also, after exiting > and restarting System Settings, the script is no longer listed there. I just tried it with the 15.04 live-image and you're right. I also couldn't make it work. That looks like another bug to me :( > In any case, I don't want to have to diddle about with scripts and > experiment with sleep times; I want the existing feature in the menu > to work. Otherwise what is it there for? It makes Plasma look > amateurish. Agreed. Let's hope that at least the next Kubuntu version has the bug fixed. Nils From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Apr 25 06:57:29 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 08:57:29 +0200 Subject: 15.04 issues Message-ID: <553B3AD9.9070005@gmail.com> Playing with 15.04 in a VM but having some issues. Can not find Lancelot that I find to be the best launcher? Where is kdeplasma-addons package? Muon package manager seems to have issues in finding packages So far I am VERY hesitant to let this replace my stable 14.10, no matter how "beatiful" it might be kind regards, Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Apr 25 07:23:11 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 09:23:11 +0200 Subject: 15.04 issues In-Reply-To: <553B3AD9.9070005@gmail.com> References: <553B3AD9.9070005@gmail.com> Message-ID: <553B40DF.9020303@gmail.com> On 25/04/2015 08:57, O. Sinclair wrote: > Playing with 15.04 in a VM but having some issues. Can not find Lancelot > that I find to be the best launcher? Where is kdeplasma-addons package? > Muon package manager seems to have issues in finding packages > > So far I am VERY hesitant to let this replace my stable 14.10, no matter > how "beatiful" it might be > > kind regards, > Sinclair > Also can not find how to keep different widgets on different virtual desktops From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Apr 25 07:35:36 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 09:35:36 +0200 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions In-Reply-To: <6592662.Rvfl7yMT23@p5915> References: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> <4817592.OWHWVs8kQR@p5915> <553A5AB7.2000206@lyonlabs.org> <6592662.Rvfl7yMT23@p5915> Message-ID: <553B43C8.6020604@gmail.com> On 24/04/2015 19:34, Nils Kassube wrote: > Glenn Holmer wrote: >> On 04/24/2015 12:07 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> BTW: Did you try my workaround with kstart? >> >> Yes, I did. It didn't work for me: >> >> cenbe at shoggoth:~/.kde/Autostart > ls -l >> total 4 >> -rwxrwxr-x 1 cenbe cenbe 75 Apr 24 07:15 session.sh >> cenbe at shoggoth:~/.kde/Autostart > cat session.sh >> #!/bin/bash >> kstart --desktop 1 konsole >> sleep 10 >> kstart --desktop 8 firefox >> cenbe at shoggoth:~/.kde/Autostart > >> >> although the script does work if I run it from the command line. I >> don't know if that location is supposed to magically pick up scripts >> and run them, > > At least this location worked in the past (14.04). Copy or symlink a > script there and it is automatically started. > >> but I also tried setting it up from System Settings / >> Autostart ("Add Script" button), which I couldn't get to work either. >> I moved the script to ~ and let System Settings create a symlink in >> ~/.config/autostart, but it doesn't appear to run. Also, after exiting >> and restarting System Settings, the script is no longer listed there. > > I just tried it with the 15.04 live-image and you're right. I also > couldn't make it work. That looks like another bug to me :( > >> In any case, I don't want to have to diddle about with scripts and >> experiment with sleep times; I want the existing feature in the menu >> to work. Otherwise what is it there for? It makes Plasma look >> amateurish. > > Agreed. Let's hope that at least the next Kubuntu version has the bug > fixed. > This and issues like not having different widgets on virtual desktops stops me dead. So I tried Activities instead and the keyboard switch shortcuts do not work, at least in the VM setup I am testing it in. No for me this is a TOO early release by Kubuntu, no matter how "shiny" Plasma 5 may be. I will keep the VM running to see if at a later stage with upgrades it improves enough for me. I can not run that for my work computer, in short. Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Apr 25 07:37:36 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 09:37:36 +0200 Subject: 15.04 issues In-Reply-To: <553B40DF.9020303@gmail.com> References: <553B3AD9.9070005@gmail.com> <553B40DF.9020303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <553B4440.4040208@gmail.com> On 25/04/2015 09:23, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 25/04/2015 08:57, O. Sinclair wrote: >> Playing with 15.04 in a VM but having some issues. Can not find Lancelot >> that I find to be the best launcher? Where is kdeplasma-addons package? >> Muon package manager seems to have issues in finding packages >> >> So far I am VERY hesitant to let this replace my stable 14.10, no matter >> how "beatiful" it might be >> >> kind regards, >> Sinclair >> > Also can not find how to keep different widgets on different virtual > desktops > So tried out Activities instead - keyboard shortcuts to switch and open not working. This is more like a "pre-release" to me, no matter how shiny. I will wait until more functionality is restored before I upgrade/switch from KDE4. From dgvirtual at akl.lt Sat Apr 25 07:46:03 2015 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 10:46:03 +0300 Subject: 15.04 kwallet Message-ID: Hi, Perhaps your kwallet configuration is crewed up somehow. In that case it should be possible to restart it and get the configuration dialog working again. You could do this. log in to your account on any of the virtual consoles before you log in to your Plasma session (hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to console). Then go into ~/.kde/share/apps and move kwallet directory: cd ~/.kde/share/apps ; mv kwallet kwallet.backup Then go to config directory and rename kwalletrc and kwalletmanagerrc files: cd ../config; mv kwalletrc kwalletrc.backup; mv kwalletmanagerrc kwalletmanagerrc.backup Then log in to your plasma session, and you will be asked if you want to use kwallet. Say no :) Let me know if it works. Donatas 2015-04-21 18:15 GMT+03:00 Dale Trombley : > Have one machine fully updated (as of 4/21) and can't disable kwallet. > When loading kwallet to get to its options it locks up. We really dislike > kwallet, is there a way to disable it using the terminal? > Thanks > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Sat Apr 25 08:48:33 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 10:48:33 +0200 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions In-Reply-To: <553B43C8.6020604@gmail.com> References: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> <6592662.Rvfl7yMT23@p5915> <553B43C8.6020604@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1771955.KxXyo8F4FU@p5915> O. Sinclair wrote: > This and issues like not having different widgets on virtual desktops > stops me dead. So I tried Activities instead and the keyboard switch > shortcuts do not work, at least in the VM setup I am testing it in. > > No for me this is a TOO early release by Kubuntu, no matter how > "shiny" Plasma 5 may be. I will keep the VM running to see if at a > later stage with upgrades it improves enough for me. If it was for an LTS release, I would agree that it is too early, but for one of the intermediary releases I think it is good to have the early version of plasma5. This way there is a chance that issues are found and hopefully fixed soon. I think I'll install 15.04 in a VM to find out which of my favourite features are missing. Nils From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Apr 25 09:27:03 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 11:27:03 +0200 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions In-Reply-To: <1771955.KxXyo8F4FU@p5915> References: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> <6592662.Rvfl7yMT23@p5915> <553B43C8.6020604@gmail.com> <1771955.KxXyo8F4FU@p5915> Message-ID: <553B5DE7.40909@gmail.com> On 25/04/2015 10:48, Nils Kassube wrote: > O. Sinclair wrote: >> This and issues like not having different widgets on virtual desktops >> stops me dead. So I tried Activities instead and the keyboard switch >> shortcuts do not work, at least in the VM setup I am testing it in. >> >> No for me this is a TOO early release by Kubuntu, no matter how >> "shiny" Plasma 5 may be. I will keep the VM running to see if at a >> later stage with upgrades it improves enough for me. > > If it was for an LTS release, I would agree that it is too early, but > for one of the intermediary releases I think it is good to have the > early version of plasma5. This way there is a chance that issues are > found and hopefully fixed soon. I think I'll install 15.04 in a VM to > find out which of my favourite features are missing. > Well, I dont want to sit on 14.04 until 16.04 for a number of reasons and will follow the move over to Plasma5 of course. But I still think this is too "bleeding edge" to be made the main desktop environment in a release. Something along the lines of what was done in 14.10 where you had both options would have been better. I run it in a VM, so perhaps if in later maintenance updates it improves I will upgrade, otherwise I think it will be 15.10 for me From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Apr 25 13:22:04 2015 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 08:22:04 -0500 Subject: 15.04 issues In-Reply-To: <553B3AD9.9070005@gmail.com> References: <553B3AD9.9070005@gmail.com> Message-ID: <553B94FC.9040309@swbell.net> On 04/25/2015 01:57 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > Muon package manager seems to have issues in finding packages Muon has been a joke from it's inception. Install Synaptic, but you can't do it from Muon because Muon can't find it. -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Sat Apr 25 13:50:35 2015 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 08:50:35 -0500 Subject: 15.04 issues In-Reply-To: <553B40DF.9020303@gmail.com> References: <553B3AD9.9070005@gmail.com> <553B40DF.9020303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <553B9BAB.7070604@lyonlabs.org> On 04/25/2015 02:23 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > Also can not find how to keep different widgets on different virtual > desktops +1, want different background image per desktop -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From myriam at kubuntu.org Sat Apr 25 13:51:37 2015 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 15:51:37 +0200 Subject: 15.04 issues In-Reply-To: <553B94FC.9040309@swbell.net> References: <553B3AD9.9070005@gmail.com> <553B94FC.9040309@swbell.net> Message-ID: Hi Billie, On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: > On 04/25/2015 01:57 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> >> Muon package manager seems to have issues in finding packages > > > Muon has been a joke from it's inception. Install Synaptic, but you can't do > it from Muon because Muon can't find it. > Because you don't use the Muon package manager. There is a huge difference between the Muon Discover application which indeed doesn't find half of the stuff. But the Muon package manager works pretty flawlessly here (Kubuntu 14.10), much better than synaptic used to work. The latter has seen some serious downgrading as it is not actively maintained anymore. The difference is this one: muon = package manager muon-discover = package browser that doesn't really work as well as expected. Removing muon-discover solve the problem quite well. Since 14.10 (maybe even earlier, can't remember when exactly) muon works very much like synaptic did. As for Kubuntu 15.04: I totally agree with Orjan here, not for me, I guess I will toy around with it on the test laptop, but it is too far from stable for my productive computer. Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Sat Apr 25 14:20:36 2015 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 09:20:36 -0500 Subject: 15.04 issues In-Reply-To: References: <553B3AD9.9070005@gmail.com> <553B94FC.9040309@swbell.net> Message-ID: <553BA2B4.6040207@lyonlabs.org> On 04/25/2015 08:51 AM, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: >> On 04/25/2015 01:57 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >>> >>> Muon package manager seems to have issues in finding packages >> >> Muon has been a joke from it's inception. Install Synaptic, but you can't do >> it from Muon because Muon can't find it. > > Because you don't use the Muon package manager. There is a huge > difference between the Muon Discover application which indeed doesn't > find half of the stuff. But the Muon package manager works pretty > flawlessly here (Kubuntu 14.10), much better than synaptic used to > work. Muon package manager is not exactly a paragon of UI design. For example, I want to install PostgreSQL: the main package, the contrib package, and the docs. Try typing "postgres" into the search field: I have no idea what those results are sorted by. Clicking the "Package" header sorts by package name... reversed. Clicking again sorts the results in ascending order. So if I'm going to install several sets of packages (try "apache"), for each search I do I have to click the Package header twice in order for the results to be manageable. Give me synaptic any day. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Apr 25 14:37:44 2015 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 09:37:44 -0500 Subject: 15.04 issues In-Reply-To: References: <553B3AD9.9070005@gmail.com> <553B94FC.9040309@swbell.net> Message-ID: <553BA6B8.5090708@swbell.net> On 04/25/2015 08:51 AM, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Billie, > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: >> On 04/25/2015 01:57 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >>> Muon package manager seems to have issues in finding packages >> >> Muon has been a joke from it's inception. Install Synaptic, but you can't do >> it from Muon because Muon can't find it. >> > Because you don't use the Muon package manager. There is a huge > difference between the Muon Discover application which indeed doesn't > find half of the stuff. But the Muon package manager works pretty > flawlessly here (Kubuntu 14.10), much better than synaptic used to > work. The latter has seen some serious downgrading as it is not > actively maintained anymore. > > The difference is this one: > > muon = package manager > muon-discover = package browser that doesn't really work as well as expected. > > Removing muon-discover solve the problem quite well. Since 14.10 > (maybe even earlier, can't remember when exactly) muon works very much > like synaptic did. > > As for Kubuntu 15.04: I totally agree with Orjan here, not for me, I > guess I will toy around with it on the test laptop, but it is too far > from stable for my productive computer. > > Regards, Myriam The only way I have ever been able to get Muon to do squat is to download a .deb file and install from the download folder. In my "menu" all that shows is "Muon Discover (Software Center)" and "Muon Update Manager". Just because it isn't being actively maintained doesn't mean it doesn't work. My ol' Granpappy used to say, "If'n it ain't broke, don't fix it." -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From info at alvin.be Sat Apr 25 15:56:59 2015 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 17:56:59 +0200 Subject: 14.04 Konsole bookmarks Message-ID: <9290795.FDFeo5yCkD@idaho> I had a lot of bookmarks in Konsole, and after the upgrade the whole bookmark list is empty. However, the file .kde/share/apps/konsole/bookmarks.xml still exists and contains all bookmarks. is there a way to import them? From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sat Apr 25 18:34:51 2015 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 11:34:51 -0700 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions In-Reply-To: <553B5DE7.40909@gmail.com> References: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> <6592662.Rvfl7yMT23@p5915> <553B43C8.6020604@gmail.com> <1771955.KxXyo8F4FU@p5915> <553B5DE7.40909@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 2:27 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 25/04/2015 10:48, Nils Kassube wrote: >> O. Sinclair wrote: >>> This and issues like not having different widgets on virtual desktops >>> stops me dead. So I tried Activities instead and the keyboard switch >>> shortcuts do not work, at least in the VM setup I am testing it in. >>> >>> No for me this is a TOO early release by Kubuntu, no matter how >>> "shiny" Plasma 5 may be. I will keep the VM running to see if at a >>> later stage with upgrades it improves enough for me. >> >> If it was for an LTS release, I would agree that it is too early, but >> for one of the intermediary releases I think it is good to have the >> early version of plasma5. This way there is a chance that issues are >> found and hopefully fixed soon. I think I'll install 15.04 in a VM to >> find out which of my favourite features are missing. >> > > Well, I dont want to sit on 14.04 until 16.04 for a number of reasons > and will follow the move over to Plasma5 of course. But I still think > this is too "bleeding edge" to be made the main desktop environment in a > release. Something along the lines of what was done in 14.10 where you > had both options would have been better. > > I run it in a VM, so perhaps if in later maintenance updates it improves > I will upgrade, otherwise I think it will be 15.10 for me My vote was for Plasma 5 for 15.04, because: *We do not have the people to support both Plasma 4 & 5 packaging and CI. *We are supporting the LTS for 5 years. *It is mostly ready for general use. It is fine to complain here, or ask for help here, but also file bugs, please. Filing bugs is one of the most important ways to contribute both in Kubuntu (packaging bugs on Launchpad, via `ubuntu-bug packagename` in the konsole) and in KDE (http://bugs.kde.org). The developers can't read all the lists, so complaining here doesn't help get things fixed. Filing bugs is important for software improvement. We can always use more folks in the Kubuntu crew to help with triaging bug reports, writing or editing documentation, translations and of course packaging. Thanks! Valorie, one member of your Kubuntu Council From dgvirtual at akl.lt Sat Apr 25 19:12:38 2015 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 22:12:38 +0300 Subject: Kubuntu Vivid slow to shut down Message-ID: Hello everyone, I have been running Kubuntu Vivid (on Thinkpad X220t, amd64, with SSD hard drive) for a few weeks now. Everything goes ok, but it is strange that it takes a few minutes for the system to shut down. It takes long both if I shut down the graphical way, and if I issue "sudo halt -p" (independently of whether the Plasma session is running). I looked at what is happening during the shutdown procedure, and the shutdown procedure stops and hangs for more than a minute at these lines: Starting Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit... Starting Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen... How do I troubleshoot this problem? How do I see what is halting the shutdown process, what is hiding behind those lines? Would be grateful for any ideas. Donatas Glodenis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kaj at haulrich.net Sat Apr 25 20:10:21 2015 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 22:10:21 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Vivid slow to shut down In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <553BF4AD.1080107@haulrich.net> On 2015-04-25 21:12, Donatas G. wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I have been running Kubuntu Vivid (on Thinkpad X220t, amd64, with SSD > hard drive) for a few weeks now. Everything goes ok, but it is strange > that it takes a few minutes for the system to shut down. It takes long > both if I shut down the graphical way, and if I issue "sudo halt -p" > (independently of whether the Plasma session is running). > > I looked at what is happening during the shutdown procedure, and the > shutdown procedure stops and hangs for more than a minute at these lines: > > Starting Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit... > Starting Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen... > > How do I troubleshoot this problem? How do I see what is halting the > shutdown process, what is hiding behind those lines? > > Would be grateful for any ideas. Well, the problem seems to be plymouth. You could try to edit (as root): /etc/default/grub and remove "quiet splash" (not the "") from the linux line. Save the file and run: sudo update-grub Now reboot. You will see the boot process in all its glory, without the plymouth candy. If your shutdown process still behaves badlu, I'm out of ideas... HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- Running Linux Kubuntu 15.04 From clay at claydoh.com Sat Apr 25 23:51:12 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 19:51:12 -0400 Subject: 14.04 Konsole bookmarks In-Reply-To: <9290795.FDFeo5yCkD@idaho> References: <9290795.FDFeo5yCkD@idaho> Message-ID: <2692087.SxapbvaOC5@lark-latitude-d830> On Saturday, April 25, 2015 05:56:59 PM Alvin wrote: > I had a lot of bookmarks in Konsole, and after the upgrade the whole > bookmark list is empty. > > However, the file .kde/share/apps/konsole/bookmarks.xml still exists and > contains all bookmarks. > > is there a way to import them? Check out ~/.local/share for plasma 5 application data folders, and ~/.config for plasma 5 application configs. Konsole is one of the programs that has been ported to Frameworks 5. You might be able to simply copy the files over from ~/.kde. There will be some things still in ~/.kde that are still used, but these will be the applications still not yet redone for frameworks 5/plasma 5. -- Clay Weber From dgvirtual at akl.lt Sun Apr 26 05:53:40 2015 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:53:40 +0300 Subject: Kubuntu Vivid slow to shut down In-Reply-To: <553BF4AD.1080107@haulrich.net> References: <553BF4AD.1080107@haulrich.net> Message-ID: Dear Kaj, I just realized that those two lines were actually the last lines in the boot process - not the ones on which the system gets stuck during the shutdown. I have disabled the grub quiet splash options, and the last thing I saw before the SDDM login screen were those two lines. On shutdown I just see a black screen all the time. But If I hit Ctrl+Alt+F7, I see the screen as it appeared at boot before SDDM login screen showed up. So, I actually have no clue of what causes shutdown delay... Donatas 2015-04-25 23:10 GMT+03:00 Kaj Haulrich : > On 2015-04-25 21:12, Donatas G. wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I have been running Kubuntu Vivid (on Thinkpad X220t, amd64, with SSD >> hard drive) for a few weeks now. Everything goes ok, but it is strange >> that it takes a few minutes for the system to shut down. It takes long >> both if I shut down the graphical way, and if I issue "sudo halt -p" >> (independently of whether the Plasma session is running). >> >> I looked at what is happening during the shutdown procedure, and the >> shutdown procedure stops and hangs for more than a minute at these lines: >> >> Starting Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit... >> Starting Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen... >> >> How do I troubleshoot this problem? How do I see what is halting the >> shutdown process, what is hiding behind those lines? >> >> Would be grateful for any ideas. >> > > Well, the problem seems to be plymouth. You could try to edit (as root): > /etc/default/grub > and remove "quiet splash" (not the "") from the linux line. Save the file > and run: > sudo update-grub > Now reboot. You will see the boot process in all its glory, without the > plymouth candy. > If your shutdown process still behaves badlu, I'm out of ideas... > > HTH > Kaj Haulrich. > -- > Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- > Running Linux Kubuntu 15.04 > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrmazda at earthlink.net Sun Apr 26 06:08:18 2015 From: mrmazda at earthlink.net (Felix Miata) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 02:08:18 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Vivid slow to shut down In-Reply-To: References: <553BF4AD.1080107@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <553C80D2.7080205@earthlink.net> Donatas G. composed on 2015-04-26 08:53 (UTC+0300): > I just realized that those two lines were actually the last lines in the > boot process - not the ones on which the system gets stuck during the > shutdown. I have disabled the grub quiet splash options, and the last thing > I saw before the SDDM login screen were those two lines. On shutdown I > just see a black screen all the time. But If I hit Ctrl+Alt+F7, I see the > screen as it appeared at boot before SDDM login screen showed up. So, I > actually have no clue of what causes shutdown delay... See if anything here helps make messages visible: http://askubuntu.com/questions/98566/how-do-deactivate-plymouth-boot-screen -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Apr 26 06:59:09 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:59:09 +0200 Subject: 15.04 issues In-Reply-To: <553BA6B8.5090708@swbell.net> References: <553B3AD9.9070005@gmail.com> <553B94FC.9040309@swbell.net> <553BA6B8.5090708@swbell.net> Message-ID: <553C8CBD.8050105@gmail.com> On 25/04/2015 16:37, Billie Walsh wrote: > On 04/25/2015 08:51 AM, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >> Hi Billie, >> >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Billie Walsh >> wrote: >>> On 04/25/2015 01:57 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >>>> Muon package manager seems to have issues in finding packages >>> >>> Muon has been a joke from it's inception. Install Synaptic, but you >>> can't do >>> it from Muon because Muon can't find it. >>> >> Because you don't use the Muon package manager. There is a huge >> difference between the Muon Discover application which indeed doesn't >> find half of the stuff. But the Muon package manager works pretty >> flawlessly here (Kubuntu 14.10), much better than synaptic used to >> work. The latter has seen some serious downgrading as it is not >> actively maintained anymore. >> >> The difference is this one: >> >> muon = package manager >> muon-discover = package browser that doesn't really work as well as >> expected. >> >> Removing muon-discover solve the problem quite well. Since 14.10 >> (maybe even earlier, can't remember when exactly) muon works very much >> like synaptic did. >> >> As for Kubuntu 15.04: I totally agree with Orjan here, not for me, I >> guess I will toy around with it on the test laptop, but it is too far >> from stable for my productive computer. >> >> Regards, Myriam > > The only way I have ever been able to get Muon to do squat is to > download a .deb file and install from the download folder. > > In my "menu" all that shows is "Muon Discover (Software Center)" and > "Muon Update Manager". > > Just because it isn't being actively maintained doesn't mean it doesn't > work. My ol' Granpappy used to say, "If'n it ain't broke, don't fix it." > My issue is not "Muon versus Synaptic" - I am very fine with Muon package manager in 14.10, I never use the Discover and Update versions. The issue I have is that in the VM 15.04 I am testing out the Muon Package Manager is not working as it should. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Apr 26 07:19:58 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:19:58 +0200 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions In-Reply-To: References: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> <6592662.Rvfl7yMT23@p5915> <553B43C8.6020604@gmail.com> <1771955.KxXyo8F4FU@p5915> <553B5DE7.40909@gmail.com> Message-ID: <553C919E.1010106@gmail.com> On 25/04/2015 20:34, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 2:27 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 25/04/2015 10:48, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> O. Sinclair wrote: >>>> This and issues like not having different widgets on virtual desktops >>>> stops me dead. So I tried Activities instead and the keyboard switch >>>> shortcuts do not work, at least in the VM setup I am testing it in. >>>> >>>> No for me this is a TOO early release by Kubuntu, no matter how >>>> "shiny" Plasma 5 may be. I will keep the VM running to see if at a >>>> later stage with upgrades it improves enough for me. >>> >>> If it was for an LTS release, I would agree that it is too early, but >>> for one of the intermediary releases I think it is good to have the >>> early version of plasma5. This way there is a chance that issues are >>> found and hopefully fixed soon. I think I'll install 15.04 in a VM to >>> find out which of my favourite features are missing. >>> >> >> Well, I dont want to sit on 14.04 until 16.04 for a number of reasons >> and will follow the move over to Plasma5 of course. But I still think >> this is too "bleeding edge" to be made the main desktop environment in a >> release. Something along the lines of what was done in 14.10 where you >> had both options would have been better. >> >> I run it in a VM, so perhaps if in later maintenance updates it improves >> I will upgrade, otherwise I think it will be 15.10 for me > > My vote was for Plasma 5 for 15.04, because: > > *We do not have the people to support both Plasma 4 & 5 packaging and CI. > > *We are supporting the LTS for 5 years. > > *It is mostly ready for general use. > > It is fine to complain here, or ask for help here, but also file bugs, > please. Filing bugs is one of the most important ways to contribute > both in Kubuntu (packaging bugs on Launchpad, via `ubuntu-bug > packagename` in the konsole) and in KDE (http://bugs.kde.org). > > The developers can't read all the lists, so complaining here doesn't > help get things fixed. Filing bugs is important for software > improvement. > > We can always use more folks in the Kubuntu crew to help with triaging > bug reports, writing or editing documentation, translations and of > course packaging. > > Thanks! > > Valorie, one member of your Kubuntu Council > Dear Valorie, we simply have different "angles". I have one computer and I need it for production use. I can not stay on LTS as I need later software versions in my job that deals with IT. >From my angle a release needs to be stable rather than bleeding edge. If I wanted bleeding edge I would go Fedora or something. I would have voted "hang on to KDE4 until 15.10" if such an option existed. Filing bugs is fine and I do, not all the time but now and then. But I can't file bugs on "beta" versions as I can not use them in production and find little time to sit in a VM and "play around". No offence meant to the devs of Plasma5, the same discussion arose when KDE4 was introduced. I think Plasma5 should have stayed in "beta" stage a bit longer. And of course users discuss their problems on a user mailing list? Kind regards, Sinclair From ralsa at openmailbox.org Sun Apr 26 08:12:37 2015 From: ralsa at openmailbox.org (Carlos Openmailbox) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 10:12:37 +0200 Subject: 15.04 issues In-Reply-To: <553B9BAB.7070604@lyonlabs.org> References: <553B3AD9.9070005@gmail.com> <553B40DF.9020303@gmail.com> <553B9BAB.7070604@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: <553C9DF5.30808@openmailbox.org> +1 (me too) I wish that some plasmoids (kickoff, folder...) can be resized from panel. El 25/04/15 a las 15:50, Glenn Holmer escribió: > On 04/25/2015 02:23 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> Also can not find how to keep different widgets on different virtual >> desktops > +1, want different background image per desktop > From info at alvin.be Sun Apr 26 11:13:15 2015 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 13:13:15 +0200 Subject: 14.04 Konsole bookmarks In-Reply-To: <2692087.SxapbvaOC5@lark-latitude-d830> References: <9290795.FDFeo5yCkD@idaho> <2692087.SxapbvaOC5@lark-latitude-d830> Message-ID: <6787742.8xLrpqXaO2@alia> On Saturday 25 April 2015 19:51:12 Clay Weber wrote: > On Saturday, April 25, 2015 05:56:59 PM Alvin wrote: > > I had a lot of bookmarks in Konsole, and after the upgrade the whole > > bookmark list is empty. > > > > However, the file .kde/share/apps/konsole/bookmarks.xml still exists and > > contains all bookmarks. > > > > is there a way to import them? > > Check out ~/.local/share for plasma 5 application data folders, and > ~/.config for plasma 5 application configs. Konsole is one of the programs > that has been ported to Frameworks 5. You might be able to simply copy the > files over from ~/.kde. > > There will be some things still in ~/.kde that are still used, but these > will be the applications still not yet redone for frameworks 5/plasma 5. Indeed! I copied the bookmarks.xml file to .local/share/konsole and it worked. Thank you very much! I didn't know that, so I guess it's time to clean out the ~/.kde directory. From dgvirtual at akl.lt Sun Apr 26 11:49:46 2015 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 14:49:46 +0300 Subject: Kubuntu Vivid slow to shut down In-Reply-To: <553C80D2.7080205@earthlink.net> References: <553BF4AD.1080107@haulrich.net> <553C80D2.7080205@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Thank you Felix and Kaj for suggestions. I could not get to see what happens during shutdown, no mater what I tried according to the link Felix suggested. However, I have sort-of solved the problem. For some reason (although I had no proof it might be related) I continued investigating the the possible plymouth involvement in the long shutdown process. Maybe because I would not get the splash during shutdown - only a black screen with cursor blinking at the top left corner. first of all I noticed that in the plymouth conf scripts in /etc/init/ there are references to lightdm being waited for, while lightdm is no longer used as a default. I tried to change those entries to sddm, but it changed nothing. Then I tried to see what services related to plymouth there are on my system. $ sudo service plymouth- revealed these ones: plymouth-halt plymouth-quit plymouth-quit-wait plymouth-read-write plymouth-reboot plymouth-start so I stopped plymouth-reboot by running sudo service plymouth-reboot stop and tried rebooting. To my surprise, the system rebooted in three seconds. So I googled on how to disable plymouth-reboot service and came up with this: sudo systemctl disable plymouth-reboot.service and now the system reboots fine. Hope the sudo systemctl disable plymouth-halt.service and sudo systemctl disable plymouth-poweroff.service will do the same for shutdown. Donatas 2015-04-26 9:08 GMT+03:00 Felix Miata : > Donatas G. composed on 2015-04-26 08:53 (UTC+0300): > > > I just realized that those two lines were actually the last lines in the > > boot process - not the ones on which the system gets stuck during the > > shutdown. I have disabled the grub quiet splash options, and the last > thing > > I saw before the SDDM login screen were those two lines. On shutdown I > > just see a black screen all the time. But If I hit Ctrl+Alt+F7, I see > the > > screen as it appeared at boot before SDDM login screen showed up. So, I > > actually have no clue of what causes shutdown delay... > > See if anything here helps make messages visible: > http://askubuntu.com/questions/98566/how-do-deactivate-plymouth-boot-screen > -- > "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant > words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) > > Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! > > Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Sun Apr 26 17:51:30 2015 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 23:21:30 +0530 Subject: 15.04 upgrade Message-ID: upgrade from 14.10 with do-release-upgrade was mostly ok, but for one problem due to octave3.2-info Had to manually remove it. mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/octave3.2* ./abc dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq octave3.2-info Best A. Mani Prof(Miss) A. Mani CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ http://about.me/logicamani sip:girlprofessor at ekiga.net From dgvirtual at akl.lt Sun Apr 26 18:21:02 2015 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 21:21:02 +0300 Subject: Kubuntu Vivid slow to shut down In-Reply-To: References: <553BF4AD.1080107@haulrich.net> <553C80D2.7080205@earthlink.net> Message-ID: So now I can do a fast reboot, halt the system, but - only using command line. If I choose to shutdown the system through the Kicker menu, it still takes almost two minutes. I have disabled these plymouth-* services: plymouth-halt.service plymouth-poweroff.service plymouth-quit.service plymouth-reboot.service plymouth-quit-wait.service but these ones remain enabled, as I am afraid to touch those: plymouth.service plymouth-read-write.service plymouth-start.service plymouth-kexec.service plymouth-log.service Anyway, to disable something is just a workaround. Hope to find real solution some time. Donatas 2015-04-26 14:49 GMT+03:00 Donatas G. : > Thank you Felix and Kaj for suggestions. I could not get to see what > happens during shutdown, no mater what I tried according to the link Felix > suggested. > > However, I have sort-of solved the problem. For some reason (although I > had no proof it might be related) I continued investigating the the > possible plymouth involvement in the long shutdown process. Maybe because I > would not get the splash during shutdown - only a black screen with cursor > blinking at the top left corner. > > first of all I noticed that in the plymouth conf scripts in /etc/init/ > there are references to lightdm being waited for, while lightdm is no > longer used as a default. I tried to change those entries to sddm, but it > changed nothing. > > Then I tried to see what services related to plymouth there are on my > system. > > $ sudo service plymouth- revealed these ones: > plymouth-halt plymouth-quit plymouth-quit-wait > plymouth-read-write plymouth-reboot plymouth-start > > so I stopped plymouth-reboot by running > > sudo service plymouth-reboot stop > > and tried rebooting. To my surprise, the system rebooted in three seconds. > > So I googled on how to disable plymouth-reboot service and came up with > this: > > sudo systemctl disable plymouth-reboot.service > > and now the system reboots fine. > > Hope the > > sudo systemctl disable plymouth-halt.service > and > sudo systemctl disable plymouth-poweroff.service > > will do the same for shutdown. > > Donatas > > > 2015-04-26 9:08 GMT+03:00 Felix Miata : > >> Donatas G. composed on 2015-04-26 08:53 (UTC+0300): >> >> > I just realized that those two lines were actually the last lines in the >> > boot process - not the ones on which the system gets stuck during the >> > shutdown. I have disabled the grub quiet splash options, and the last >> thing >> > I saw before the SDDM login screen were those two lines. On shutdown I >> > just see a black screen all the time. But If I hit Ctrl+Alt+F7, I see >> the >> > screen as it appeared at boot before SDDM login screen showed up. So, I >> > actually have no clue of what causes shutdown delay... >> >> See if anything here helps make messages visible: >> >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/98566/how-do-deactivate-plymouth-boot-screen >> -- >> "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant >> words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) >> >> Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! >> >> Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Sun Apr 26 18:27:19 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 11:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade Question Message-ID: I'm finding 14.04 to be less and less satisfactory as I go along. It's as if someone did a study on everything I do, and how I do it, and then surgically removed them from the distro. So, my question is this: Can I upgrade to 14.04, but dump the latest garbage and keep/re-install kde 4.8.5? Bill From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sun Apr 26 18:29:23 2015 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 11:29:23 -0700 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions In-Reply-To: <553C919E.1010106@gmail.com> References: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> <6592662.Rvfl7yMT23@p5915> <553B43C8.6020604@gmail.com> <1771955.KxXyo8F4FU@p5915> <553B5DE7.40909@gmail.com> <553C919E.1010106@gmail.com> Message-ID: MOn Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 12:19 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 25/04/2015 20:34, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 2:27 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >>> On 25/04/2015 10:48, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>> O. Sinclair wrote: >>>>> This and issues like not having different widgets on virtual desktops >>>>> stops me dead. So I tried Activities instead and the keyboard switch >>>>> shortcuts do not work, at least in the VM setup I am testing it in. >>>>> >>>>> No for me this is a TOO early release by Kubuntu, no matter how >>>>> "shiny" Plasma 5 may be. I will keep the VM running to see if at a >>>>> later stage with upgrades it improves enough for me. >>>> >>>> If it was for an LTS release, I would agree that it is too early, but >>>> for one of the intermediary releases I think it is good to have the >>>> early version of plasma5. This way there is a chance that issues are >>>> found and hopefully fixed soon. I think I'll install 15.04 in a VM to >>>> find out which of my favourite features are missing. >>>> >>> >>> Well, I dont want to sit on 14.04 until 16.04 for a number of reasons >>> and will follow the move over to Plasma5 of course. But I still think >>> this is too "bleeding edge" to be made the main desktop environment in a >>> release. Something along the lines of what was done in 14.10 where you >>> had both options would have been better. >>> >>> I run it in a VM, so perhaps if in later maintenance updates it improves >>> I will upgrade, otherwise I think it will be 15.10 for me >> >> My vote was for Plasma 5 for 15.04, because: >> >> *We do not have the people to support both Plasma 4 & 5 packaging and CI. >> >> *We are supporting the LTS for 5 years. >> >> *It is mostly ready for general use. >> >> It is fine to complain here, or ask for help here, but also file bugs, >> please. Filing bugs is one of the most important ways to contribute >> both in Kubuntu (packaging bugs on Launchpad, via `ubuntu-bug >> packagename` in the konsole) and in KDE (http://bugs.kde.org). >> >> The developers can't read all the lists, so complaining here doesn't >> help get things fixed. Filing bugs is important for software >> improvement. >> >> We can always use more folks in the Kubuntu crew to help with triaging >> bug reports, writing or editing documentation, translations and of >> course packaging. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Valorie, one member of your Kubuntu Council >> > Dear Valorie, we simply have different "angles". I have one computer and > I need it for production use. I can not stay on LTS as I need later > software versions in my job that deals with IT. > From my angle a release needs to be stable rather than bleeding edge. If > I wanted bleeding edge I would go Fedora or something. I would have > voted "hang on to KDE4 until 15.10" if such an option existed. The reasons such an option wasn't chosen I stated above. We simply do not have the developers to work on both Plasma 4 and 5 at the same time. Also, if we rolled out Plasma 5 in 15.10, we'd have less time to prepare it for the next LTS, 16.04. One cycle is simply not enough for such a large change. > Filing bugs is fine and I do, not all the time but now and then. But I > can't file bugs on "beta" versions as I can not use them in production > and find little time to sit in a VM and "play around". Well, that "beta" has been available since 14.10 release and before. It is no longer a beta; Plasma 5.3 is released in 2 days [1]. > No offence meant to the devs of Plasma5, the same discussion arose when > KDE4 was introduced. I think Plasma5 should have stayed in "beta" stage > a bit longer. > > And of course users discuss their problems on a user mailing list? > > Kind regards, > Sinclair Naturally; I just wanted to insure that bugs are reported as bugs, not just as complaints on a user list. Valorie 1. https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5 -- http://about.me/valoriez From clay at claydoh.com Sun Apr 26 20:03:55 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:03:55 -0400 Subject: Upgrade Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <725CE0A2-3121-4019-A88E-40E6FE607D84@claydoh.com> On April 26, 2015 2:27:19 PM EDT, Bill Vance wrote: > >I'm finding 14.04 to be less and less satisfactory as I go >along. It's as if someone did a study on everything I do, >and how I do it, and then surgically removed them from the >distro. > >So, my question is this: Can I upgrade to 14.04, but dump >the latest garbage and keep/re-install kde 4.8.5? > >Bill If you mean upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04, and keep the old kde 4.8.5 from 12.04, well....... no. -- Clay Weber From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Tue Apr 28 13:31:57 2015 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 08:31:57 -0500 Subject: windows not preserved across sessions In-Reply-To: <6592662.Rvfl7yMT23@p5915> References: <5523BEAE.5020301@lyonlabs.org> <4817592.OWHWVs8kQR@p5915> <553A5AB7.2000206@lyonlabs.org> <6592662.Rvfl7yMT23@p5915> Message-ID: <553F8BCD.8000803@lyonlabs.org> On 04/24/2015 12:34 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Glenn Holmer wrote: >> In any case, I don't want to have to diddle about with scripts and >> experiment with sleep times; I want the existing feature in the menu >> to work. Otherwise what is it there for? It makes Plasma look >> amateurish. > > Agreed. Let's hope that at least the next Kubuntu version has the bug > fixed. Or the next Plasma version... I just upgraded to 5.3 via PPA and it's still broken. This is clearly not considered important, but I'm confused: if things like this aren't important enough to fix, why don't the Plasma devs just start removing configuration options the way GNOME did? Then I could have a good excuse to switch to a different DE and get some closure. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From mailing-list at francq.info Tue Apr 28 16:04:09 2015 From: mailing-list at francq.info (Pascal Francq (Mailing lists)) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:04:09 +0200 Subject: Accent with Firefox and Thunderbird Message-ID: <553FAF79.6020507@francq.info> Hi, I have just made an upgrade from KUbuntu from 14.10 to 15.04. Since, I cannot type accents in Firefox and Thunderbird (for example, they show ^a rather than â), while it works with all other applications (including LibreOffice). Has someone an idea ? Thanks. -- Dr. Pascal Francq Belgium From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Tue Apr 28 17:15:39 2015 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:15:39 -0400 Subject: Accent with Firefox and Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <553FAF79.6020507@francq.info> References: <553FAF79.6020507@francq.info> Message-ID: <553FC03B.3070102@optonline.net> On 04/28/2015 12:04 PM, Pascal Francq (Mailing lists) wrote: > Hi, > I have just made an upgrade from KUbuntu from 14.10 to 15.04. Since, I > cannot type accents in Firefox and Thunderbird (for example, they show > ^a rather than â), while it works with all other applications (including > LibreOffice). > Has someone an idea ? > Thanks. Do you have a Compose key set up? (I assume you can do that in Kubuntu.) I just tried inputting Zürich into the Google box in Firefox, and it worked fine. And I'm writing in Thunderbird. Let's see--I don't know a word tha tuses a cap on the "a" but the French hôtel has the cap, and there it is. --doug From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Wed Apr 29 08:03:04 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade Question In-Reply-To: <725CE0A2-3121-4019-A88E-40E6FE607D84@claydoh.com> References: <725CE0A2-3121-4019-A88E-40E6FE607D84@claydoh.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Apr 2015, Clay Weber wrote: > On April 26, 2015 2:27:19 PM EDT, Bill Vance wrote: >> >> I'm finding 14.04 to be less and less satisfactory as I go >> along. It's as if someone did a study on everything I do, >> and how I do it, and then surgically removed them from the >> distro. >> >> So, my question is this: Can I upgrade to 14.04, but dump >> the latest garbage and keep/re-install kde 4.8.5? >> >> Bill > > If you mean upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04, and keep the old kde 4.8.5 from 12.04, well....... > > no. > -- > Clay Weber In that case, are the newer upgrades following the same patern as 14.04? I'm refering to the same radical dis-functionalities here, like requiring that I go into system settings with a virtually illegible screen resolution, in order to set the resolution to something readable, for every stinking re-boot, instead of just being able to three-key it, (Ctrl-Alt- + or -)? They did the right thing when it came to the choice between old or new style menuing, Why did they get stupid when not allowing the same new/old choice for switching between desktops? If I'm informed that the newer versions are avoiding mistakes like this, I'll check them out, otherwise I'll be checking out other distros entirely. Bill From clay at claydoh.com Wed Apr 29 14:05:07 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:05:07 -0400 Subject: Upgrade Question In-Reply-To: References: <725CE0A2-3121-4019-A88E-40E6FE607D84@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <364CFDB4-66D9-4DBC-AC7F-7AA24BE1C75E@claydoh.com> On April 29, 2015 4:03:04 AM EDT, Bill Vance wrote: > > >On Sun, 26 Apr 2015, Clay Weber wrote: > >> On April 26, 2015 2:27:19 PM EDT, Bill Vance > wrote: >>> >>> I'm finding 14.04 to be less and less satisfactory as I go >>> along. It's as if someone did a study on everything I do, >>> and how I do it, and then surgically removed them from the >>> distro. >>> >>> So, my question is this: Can I upgrade to 14.04, but dump >>> the latest garbage and keep/re-install kde 4.8.5? >>> >>> Bill >> >> If you mean upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04, and keep the old kde 4.8.5 >from 12.04, well....... >> >> no. >> -- >> Clay Weber > >In that case, are the newer upgrades following the same >patern as 14.04? I'm refering to the same radical >dis-functionalities here, like requiring that I go into >system settings with a virtually illegible screen >resolution, in order to set the resolution to something >readable, for every stinking re-boot, instead of just >being able to three-key it, (Ctrl-Alt- + or -)? As far as I remember, that went away when kernel mode switching became the default, which iirc most distros do today. I don't know if disabling kms will bring the zooming function of xorg back, and it might allow a custom res to stick. Though you might still need a custom xorg.conf or xrandr script. I really don't know. > >They did the right thing when it came to the choice >between old or new style menuing, Why did they get >stupid when not allowing the same new/old choice for >switching between desktops? > >If I'm informed that the newer versions are avoiding >mistakes like this, I'll check them out, otherwise I'll >be checking out other distros entirely. > >Bill It might well be worth checking out others to find what fits your needs. In this particular case I suspect you may find things very similar across distros. -- Clay Weber From gheskett at wdtv.com Wed Apr 29 16:37:33 2015 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:37:33 -0400 Subject: Is there mailing list for Lubuntu users? Message-ID: <201504291237.33038.gheskett@wdtv.com> My google-fu is weak this morning, oh, its afternoon locally. :) Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page From myriam at kubuntu.org Wed Apr 29 17:47:40 2015 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 19:47:40 +0200 Subject: Is there mailing list for Lubuntu users? In-Reply-To: <201504291237.33038.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201504291237.33038.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: Hi Gene, On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > My google-fu is weak this morning, oh, its afternoon locally. :) > They have a forum, how about asking there? http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=lubuntu Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From kassube at gmx.net Wed Apr 29 17:54:20 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 19:54:20 +0200 Subject: Is there mailing list for Lubuntu users? In-Reply-To: <201504291237.33038.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201504291237.33038.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <10520313.nIu3CjvaKb@p5915> Gene Heskett wrote: > My google-fu is weak this morning, oh, its afternoon locally. :) Try this: Nils From jimmckenzie at earthlink.net Thu Apr 30 00:32:58 2015 From: jimmckenzie at earthlink.net (James R McKenzie) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 20:32:58 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: Need 64 - Bit Printer Drivers For Canon Pixma MX 432 Message-ID: <33169139.1430353978957.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I've looked every where online and can't find these drivers. even went all the way back to November 2014 on UbuntuHandBook and couldn't find it there. Can someone please post the link to the 64 - Bit Printer Drivers from Canon? As Always Any / All Help Will Be Appreciated. From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Thu Apr 30 04:33:37 2015 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 10:03:37 +0530 Subject: Plasma crashes in 15.04 Message-ID: 1. Happens with multiple window managers 2. Version both 5.2, 5.3 3. Kubuntu-15.04 4. Also tried to change database of Akonadi - does not help. 5. Filed bug : [Bug 1450271] [NEW] Plasma crashes in Kubuntu 15.04 initially there was a plasma crash and all of menu, wallpaper, panel were not displayed - though applications had no problems crash report was with #kcmshell4 akonadi Best A. Mani Prof(Miss) A. Mani CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ http://about.me/logicamani sip:girlprofessor at ekiga.net From support at asiadigitalprivacy.net Thu Apr 30 04:45:32 2015 From: support at asiadigitalprivacy.net (support) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 12:45:32 +0800 Subject: Plasma crashes in 15.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5541B36C.5040602@asiadigitalprivacy.net> Prof Mani, I filed a similar bug report related to 5.3 (I also noted a similar failure in 5.2 but did not file a report), and was informed that a fix was identified and will be implemented in early May. I filed it at bugs.kde.org and got pretty fast comms back on it. Browsing the bugs data related to "plasmashell" I noted other "plasmashell" related crash bugs had similar backtrace profiles to the one I filed (although I lack the expertise to know what the backtrace info means other than identifying that there was a lot of the same data in the backtraces). I am no expert but I think the plasma shell crash (which takes out the panels etc) is indeed in evidence pretty broadly and that KDE is working to fix it ASAP as it crops up in a lot of circumstances. I get it [some % of each action taken] when adding widgets, when changing widgets, when activing Activities, when changing activities, when editing panels, and probably other actions which I don't recall offhand. I could not find your bug number in bugs.kde.org - I think this should be a plasmashell bug according to their classification approach if you haven't filed it under plasmashell already. I hope you do get a response on your bug report! Cheers On 30/04/2015 12:33, A. Mani wrote: > 1. Happens with multiple window managers > > 2. Version both 5.2, 5.3 > > 3. Kubuntu-15.04 > > 4. Also tried to change database of Akonadi - does not help. > > 5. Filed bug : [Bug 1450271] [NEW] Plasma crashes in Kubuntu 15.04 > > initially there was a plasma crash and all of menu, wallpaper, panel > were not displayed - though applications had no problems > > crash report was with > > #kcmshell4 akonadi > > > Best > > A. Mani > > > > Prof(Miss) A. Mani > CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS > HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in > Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ > http://about.me/logicamani > sip:girlprofessor at ekiga.net > From david at lang.hm Thu Apr 30 04:57:55 2015 From: david at lang.hm (David Lang) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Plasma crashes in 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5541B36C.5040602@asiadigitalprivacy.net> References: <5541B36C.5040602@asiadigitalprivacy.net> Message-ID: I get a similar thing when I start firefox, it starts loading all the pages and then things crash and I end up back at the login screen I upgraded to the 5.3 ppa and it still happens. David Lang On Thu, 30 Apr 2015, support wrote: > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 12:45:32 +0800 > From: support > Reply-To: Kubuntu user technical support > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: Re: Plasma crashes in 15.04 > > Prof Mani, > > I filed a similar bug report related to 5.3 (I also noted a similar > failure in 5.2 but did not file a report), and was informed that a fix > was identified and will be implemented in early May. I filed it at > bugs.kde.org and got pretty fast comms back on it. Browsing the bugs > data related to "plasmashell" I noted other "plasmashell" related crash > bugs had similar backtrace profiles to the one I filed (although I lack > the expertise to know what the backtrace info means other than > identifying that there was a lot of the same data in the backtraces). I > am no expert but I think the plasma shell crash (which takes out the > panels etc) is indeed in evidence pretty broadly and that KDE is working > to fix it ASAP as it crops up in a lot of circumstances. I get it [some > % of each action taken] when adding widgets, when changing widgets, when > activing Activities, when changing activities, when editing panels, and > probably other actions which I don't recall offhand. > > I could not find your bug number in bugs.kde.org - I think this should > be a plasmashell bug according to their classification approach if you > haven't filed it under plasmashell already. > > I hope you do get a response on your bug report! > > Cheers > > On 30/04/2015 12:33, A. Mani wrote: >> 1. Happens with multiple window managers >> >> 2. Version both 5.2, 5.3 >> >> 3. Kubuntu-15.04 >> >> 4. Also tried to change database of Akonadi - does not help. >> >> 5. Filed bug : [Bug 1450271] [NEW] Plasma crashes in Kubuntu 15.04 >> >> initially there was a plasma crash and all of menu, wallpaper, panel >> were not displayed - though applications had no problems >> >> crash report was with >> >> #kcmshell4 akonadi >> >> >> Best >> >> A. Mani >> >> >> >> Prof(Miss) A. Mani >> CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS >> HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in >> Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ >> http://about.me/logicamani >> sip:girlprofessor at ekiga.net >> > > > > From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Thu Apr 30 05:09:09 2015 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 10:39:09 +0530 Subject: Plasma crashes in 15.04 In-Reply-To: <5541B36C.5040602@asiadigitalprivacy.net> References: <5541B36C.5040602@asiadigitalprivacy.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 10:15 AM, support wrote: > > I could not find your bug number in bugs.kde.org - I think this should > be a plasmashell bug according to their classification approach if you > haven't filed it under plasmashell already. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kwin/+bug/1450271 Best A. Mani Prof(Miss) A. Mani CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ http://about.me/logicamani sip:girlprofessor at ekiga.net From support at asiadigitalprivacy.net Thu Apr 30 05:17:55 2015 From: support at asiadigitalprivacy.net (support) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 13:17:55 +0800 Subject: Plasma crashes in 15.04 In-Reply-To: References: <5541B36C.5040602@asiadigitalprivacy.net> Message-ID: <5541BB03.8020303@asiadigitalprivacy.net> Thank you. I think they upstream those kwin bugs from kubuntu to the KDE bug team at bugs.kde.org but I guess they don't use the same tracking numbers. Cheers On 30/04/2015 13:09, A. Mani wrote: > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 10:15 AM, support > wrote: >> I could not find your bug number in bugs.kde.org - I think this should >> be a plasmashell bug according to their classification approach if you >> haven't filed it under plasmashell already. > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kwin/+bug/1450271 > > > > Best > > A. Mani > > > > Prof(Miss) A. Mani > CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS > HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in > Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ > http://about.me/logicamani > sip:girlprofessor at ekiga.net >