From valtermura at gmail.com Wed May 1 09:36:27 2013 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 11:36:27 +0200 Subject: address autocompletion gone missing in 4.10.2 In-Reply-To: <5160266D.40204@gmail.com> References: <5160266D.40204@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4669237.r9XPV80UvX@valter-desktop> Hi, And still the bug remains in 4.10.2, with Kubuntu 13.04... Same plugin for Gmail addressbook. In data sabato 6 aprile 2013 15:43:09, O. Sinclair ha scritto: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Upgraded to 4.10.2 and found that autocompletion of mail receiver > address went missing again in KMail... > > Anyone else see this? Any idea how to get it back? > Same for me... always unresolved with plugin for GMail addressbook... Ciao -- Valter Open Source is better! KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed May 1 09:42:02 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 11:42:02 +0200 Subject: address autocompletion gone missing in 4.10.2 In-Reply-To: <4669237.r9XPV80UvX@valter-desktop> References: <5160266D.40204@gmail.com> <4669237.r9XPV80UvX@valter-desktop> Message-ID: <5180E36A.9090504@gmail.com> On 01/05/2013 11:36, Valter Mura wrote: > Hi, > > And still the bug remains in 4.10.2, with Kubuntu 13.04... > > Same plugin for Gmail addressbook. > > > In data sabato 6 aprile 2013 15:43:09, O. Sinclair ha scritto: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> >> Upgraded to 4.10.2 and found that autocompletion of mail >> receiver address went missing again in KMail... >> >> Anyone else see this? Any idea how to get it back? >> > > Same for me... always unresolved with plugin for GMail > addressbook... Not for me... but I have to type more of the name than I used to before completion "kicks in" and my "groups/lists" went empty again... From basroufs at gmail.com Wed May 1 18:58:05 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas G. Roufs) Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 20:58:05 +0200 Subject: Does anybody with Kubuntu 13.04 manage to work with a Dutch (NL) spell checker? Message-ID: <1524711.MuYaJN76Pp@viaconsensus-travel> Hello Everybody, In Kubuntu 13.04, I have correctly installed language modules from British English, American English, German, Dutch, French and some other languages. Each language seems to be correctly spell checked inside LibreOffice - except Dutch. Whatever I do, this problem keeps coming back: * when switching to a different user; * when purging and reinstalling LibreOffice; * ....... In all such cases, the Dutch (NL) spell checker does not function, while the spell checks of other languages do work. Because of this, I have filed in Bugzilla this bug report: https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=64112 , bug nr. 64112. The one person who has tested my report so far, has Ubuntu 13.04 - but in his case, the problem is not there. That's why, I am wondering whether there is anybody with Kubuntu 13.04 or any other KDE distro who has the same or a similar problem . I have this problem ever since I upgraded from Kubuntu 12.10 tot 13.04. Respectfully yours, Bas.-- */Bas G. Roufs MA/* Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com[1]; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org[2] .Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering. -------- [1] mailto:BasRoufs at gmail.com [2] http://kubuntu.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ubuntu at kitterman.com Thu May 2 02:10:17 2013 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 22:10:17 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2013 - Nominations Closed In-Reply-To: <22410732.FmiTSVlx5S@scott-latitude-e6320> References: <2092773.D8GstSbEnq@scott-latitude-e6320> <22410732.FmiTSVlx5S@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: <2583121.UD5kDCBj27@scott-latitude-e6320> No additional nominees appeared after my second call and the nomination period has now closed. The nominees I have recorded are: David Wonderly (Darkwing) Valorie Zimmerman (valorie) Philip Muskovac (yofel) Rohan Garg (shadeslayer) They are all eligible. If somehow you thought you were nominated and you aren't on this list, contact me immediately. Since there are four nominees for three seats, there will be an election. I will start working on ballot preparation tomorrow. In order to be eligible to vote, you must be a current Kubuntu member and receive a ballot via CIVS. In order to receive a ballot, we need an email address. If you have a public email address in your Launchpad profile, you need take no action. I will collect them from there. If you do not have one, you will not get a ballot unless you provide me with an email address. You can contact me directly either via email or IRC. Assuming no foul-ups in preparation, ballots will go out on Saturday and voting will be open until the end (UTC) of May 20th. Best of luck to all the candidates and if you have anything more to communicate about your candidacy, now's the time ... Scott K On Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:44:30 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: > As a reminder, nominations are still open, but less than a week to go, so > if you've been holding back, now's the time. > > Scott K > > On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 04:11:07 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > > The Kubuntu Council terms for David Wonderly, Harald Sitter, and Jonathan > > Thomas expire on 2013-05-20. This is a call for nominations for the > > Kubuntu Council to elect three members. > > > > The term will be for two years, 2013-05-21 to 2015-05-20. > > > > As in the past, the election will be conducted using CIVS (Condorcet > > Internet Voting Service - http://www.cs.cornell.edu/andru/civs.html ). > > The > > top three ranking vote recipients will be elected. > > > > Schedule: > > > > Nomination period: Now to 2013-05-01 > > Ballot Preparation: 2013-05-01 to 2013-05-04 > > Voting Period: 2013-05-04 to 2013-05-20 > > End Poll/Results Announced: 2013-05-20 > > New Term Begins: 2013-05-21 > > > > Eligibility: > > > > All Kubuntu Members ( https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+members ) > > are > > eligible to be nominated and to vote. If you have a public email address > > in launchpad, you need take no further action to receive your voting > > ballot. If you do not have a public email address, please contact me > > offlist with the address you'd like your ballot sent to, otherwise you > > will be unable to vote. > > > > Nominations: > > > > All Kubuntu members are eligible. The Kubuntu Council is intended to > > represent all of the Kubuntu community. Applications from involved non- > > developers are encouraged. If you are nominating someone else, please > > confirm their willingness to serve before nominating them. Nominations > > should be done in public via either kubuntu-users or kubuntu-devel mailing > > lists. If there is some extraordinary reason that precludes that, contact > > me directly. > > > > Commitment: > > > > The Kubuntu Council is the leadership body of Kubuntu. Members of the > > council are expected to be active in Kubuntu. The Kubuntu Council has > > > > three primary roles: > > - Approve development plans for future Kubuntu releases > > - Approve Kubuntu membership applications > > - Resolve disputes within the Kubuntu project > > > > The time commitment is not large. Meetings are generally only once every > > several months and conducted via IRC. > > > > Questions: > > > > If there are questions, you can contact me (preferably) via this mailing > > list or (if really necessary) via direct mail. > > > > Scott K > > For the Kubuntu Council From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Thu May 2 08:22:32 2013 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 01:22:32 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2013 - Nominations Closed In-Reply-To: References: <2092773.D8GstSbEnq@scott-latitude-e6320> <22410732.FmiTSVlx5S@scott-latitude-e6320> <2583121.UD5kDCBj27@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: Hi Howard -- how about asking us questions in email? An IRC meeting sounds fine to me too, but many list members aren't on IRC. I'll try installing mumble again, and see if I have better luck in 13.04 than I did in 12.10. All the best, Valorie On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Ho Wan Chan wrote: > Hello Kubuntu Council members, election candidates and fellow Kubuntu > members, > > I seem to have some difficulty in considering who to vote for (or, since we > are having 4 candidates for 3 Kubuntu Council seats, who not to vote for), > since all 4 candidates are well-established members in Ubuntu, Kubuntu and > KDE communities. All 4 of them have been doing substantial tasks for > Kubuntu. And I'm the newest Kubuntu Member. That makes the voting rather, > erm, complicated. > > I have some sort of an idea: Should we hold some "election forum"? It can be > either in IRC or Mumble. Each candidate introduces themselves, then gets > asked questions by other Kubuntu Members and Users. This, I think, makes the > election a more informed one. > > I don't mind if you all disagree, but I might have to consider drawing lots > for voting :) I would like to invite all Kubuntu Members to consider this > idea. > > Finally, a thank you to the 4 candidates who are running for this election, > and I sincerely hope you can be elected to become the leaders of Kubuntu. > > Best wishes, > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) > Kubuntu Member > > P.S. Please CC me in every mail you sent, I am only subscribed to the > Kubuntu Development Mailing List, not the Kubuntu Users Mailing List. > > On 2013-5-2 上午10:11, "Scott Kitterman" wrote: >> >> No additional nominees appeared after my second call and the nomination >> period >> has now closed. The nominees I have recorded are: >> >> David Wonderly (Darkwing) >> Valorie Zimmerman (valorie) >> Philip Muskovac (yofel) >> Rohan Garg (shadeslayer) ::snip:: -- http://about.me/valoriez From smartboyhw at gmail.com Thu May 2 09:47:26 2013 From: smartboyhw at gmail.com (Ho Wan Chan) Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 17:47:26 +0800 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2013 - Nominations Closed In-Reply-To: References: <2092773.D8GstSbEnq@scott-latitude-e6320> <22410732.FmiTSVlx5S@scott-latitude-e6320> <2583121.UD5kDCBj27@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: Valorie (and the other 3 election candidates) I have no problems asking questions over e-mail. So, here are my two questions: 1. After Canonical decided not to sponsor the Kubuntu Project, Kubuntu seems more unwelcoming to Canonical decisions. For example, on the vUDS + rolling release affair, both Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) and Harald Sitter (apachelogger) wrote blog posts that even alarmed Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl) to reply. How would you try to improve the relations between Kubuntu and the general Ubuntu Community, or even better, Canonical? 2. Jonathan's blog post ( http://blogs.kde.org/2013/03/06/ubuntu-community-community) has made some other Ubuntu official distributions a bit worried. There are IRC discussions in Xubuntu's development channel and mailing list discussions in Lubuntu's mailing lists. For most of them discussing, they felt unhappy. Of course Jonathan has disclaimed that he isn't trying to tether up relations with other people or flavours (I believe that), but then, how would you try to establish better relations with other flavours? I hope that my questions will not be too difficult to be answered and hope that Riddell won't kill me:P Regards, Howard Chan (smartboyhw) Kubuntu member P.S. I am subscribed temporaily to the users mailing list now. On 2013-5-2 下午4:22, "Valorie Zimmerman" wrote: > Hi Howard -- how about asking us questions in email? An IRC meeting > sounds fine to me too, but many list members aren't on IRC. I'll try > installing mumble again, and see if I have better luck in 13.04 than I > did in 12.10. > > All the best, > > Valorie > > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Ho Wan Chan wrote: > > Hello Kubuntu Council members, election candidates and fellow Kubuntu > > members, > > > > I seem to have some difficulty in considering who to vote for (or, since > we > > are having 4 candidates for 3 Kubuntu Council seats, who not to vote > for), > > since all 4 candidates are well-established members in Ubuntu, Kubuntu > and > > KDE communities. All 4 of them have been doing substantial tasks for > > Kubuntu. And I'm the newest Kubuntu Member. That makes the voting rather, > > erm, complicated. > > > > I have some sort of an idea: Should we hold some "election forum"? It > can be > > either in IRC or Mumble. Each candidate introduces themselves, then gets > > asked questions by other Kubuntu Members and Users. This, I think, makes > the > > election a more informed one. > > > > I don't mind if you all disagree, but I might have to consider drawing > lots > > for voting :) I would like to invite all Kubuntu Members to consider this > > idea. > > > > Finally, a thank you to the 4 candidates who are running for this > election, > > and I sincerely hope you can be elected to become the leaders of Kubuntu. > > > > Best wishes, > > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) > > Kubuntu Member > > > > P.S. Please CC me in every mail you sent, I am only subscribed to the > > Kubuntu Development Mailing List, not the Kubuntu Users Mailing List. > > > > On 2013-5-2 上午10:11, "Scott Kitterman" wrote: > >> > >> No additional nominees appeared after my second call and the nomination > >> period > >> has now closed. The nominees I have recorded are: > >> > >> David Wonderly (Darkwing) > >> Valorie Zimmerman (valorie) > >> Philip Muskovac (yofel) > >> Rohan Garg (shadeslayer) > > ::snip:: > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Thu May 2 10:24:42 2013 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 03:24:42 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2013 - Nominations Closed In-Reply-To: References: <2092773.D8GstSbEnq@scott-latitude-e6320> <22410732.FmiTSVlx5S@scott-latitude-e6320> <2583121.UD5kDCBj27@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Ho Wan Chan wrote: > Valorie (and the other 3 election candidates) I have no problems asking > questions over e-mail. So, here are my two questions: > > 1. After Canonical decided not to sponsor the Kubuntu Project, Kubuntu seems > more unwelcoming to Canonical decisions. For example, on the vUDS + rolling > release affair, both Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) and Harald Sitter > (apachelogger) wrote blog posts that even alarmed Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl) > to reply. How would you try to improve the relations between Kubuntu and the > general Ubuntu Community, or even better, Canonical? Hmmm, I would characterize the events differently. We're all a part of the Ubuntu community. Getting Kubuntu membership gives us Ubuntu membership as well. Mark heads Canonical and as such, decisions there are taken without our input. On the other hand, while he established the Ubuntu project and gives himself final authority on major decisions, it is a *community* project, and there we have a voice. Dialog is where change happens, and a healthy dialog involves talking and listening both. We read Mark's blog posts, he reads ours, we listen when he talks at UDS and other meetings, and I believe that when we talk, he listens as well. At the one UDS I attended (Orlando), I talked with a lot of Canonical employees and found them friendly and interested in my experiences and opinions as a community member and Kubuntu user. Some of them are Kubuntu users as well. :-) We're involved in the wider Ubuntu community already. I just represented Ubuntu Washington this past weekend at LinuxFest NorthWest, as I've done in past years. I'm an active member of Ubuntu Women, and have presented Kubuntu at Open Week before, as well as running local Ubuntu events for my loco. I run torrents for ALL the Ubuntu flavor ISOs, and have been doing that for awhile. A few sharp differences of opinion are nothing to worry about. We all feel safe expressing ourselves, and expect to listen to our peers as they listen to us. Dialog is what it's all about. > 2. Jonathan's blog post ( > http://blogs.kde.org/2013/03/06/ubuntu-community-community) has made some > other Ubuntu official distributions a bit worried. There are IRC discussions > in Xubuntu's development channel and mailing list discussions in Lubuntu's > mailing lists. For most of them discussing, they felt unhappy. Of course > Jonathan has disclaimed that he isn't trying to tether up relations with > other people or flavours (I believe that), but then, how would you try to > establish better relations with other flavours? I participated in a vUDS session with a Xubuntu guy, and that went well. I don't have time to spend in all the flavor IRC channels, but I suppose randomly popping in occasionally would be a good move. I think all the flavors already participate with one another in LoCos, in the various Councils, on the wiki, forum and lists. I know that we have people from most if not all the flavors in the Ubuntu Women project. By the way, I consider Unity just one more flavor, even if it is the standard now. I hope that Canonical decides that spending money on a few community people each release for a real, face-to-face UDS is worthwhile. The virtual version is no replacement, in my opinion. There is nothing that creates friendships more than actually hanging out together. Short of that happening, I suppose the vUDS and IRC will have to do. Oh, and all of us who can, participating in our LoCos and other Ubuntu activities, outlets, councils, and so forth. > I hope that my questions will not be too difficult to be answered and hope > that Riddell won't kill me:P > > Regards, > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) > Kubuntu member > > P.S. I am subscribed temporaily to the users mailing list now. > > On 2013-5-2 下午4:22, "Valorie Zimmerman" wrote: >> >> Hi Howard -- how about asking us questions in email? An IRC meeting >> sounds fine to me too, but many list members aren't on IRC. I'll try >> installing mumble again, and see if I have better luck in 13.04 than I >> did in 12.10. >> >> All the best, >> >> Valorie >> >> >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Ho Wan Chan wrote: >> > Hello Kubuntu Council members, election candidates and fellow Kubuntu >> > members, >> > >> > I seem to have some difficulty in considering who to vote for (or, since >> > we >> > are having 4 candidates for 3 Kubuntu Council seats, who not to vote >> > for), >> > since all 4 candidates are well-established members in Ubuntu, Kubuntu >> > and >> > KDE communities. All 4 of them have been doing substantial tasks for >> > Kubuntu. And I'm the newest Kubuntu Member. That makes the voting >> > rather, >> > erm, complicated. >> > >> > I have some sort of an idea: Should we hold some "election forum"? It >> > can be >> > either in IRC or Mumble. Each candidate introduces themselves, then gets >> > asked questions by other Kubuntu Members and Users. This, I think, makes >> > the >> > election a more informed one. >> > >> > I don't mind if you all disagree, but I might have to consider drawing >> > lots >> > for voting :) I would like to invite all Kubuntu Members to consider >> > this >> > idea. >> > >> > Finally, a thank you to the 4 candidates who are running for this >> > election, >> > and I sincerely hope you can be elected to become the leaders of >> > Kubuntu. >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) >> > Kubuntu Member >> > >> > P.S. Please CC me in every mail you sent, I am only subscribed to the >> > Kubuntu Development Mailing List, not the Kubuntu Users Mailing List. >> > >> > On 2013-5-2 上午10:11, "Scott Kitterman" wrote: >> >> >> >> No additional nominees appeared after my second call and the nomination >> >> period >> >> has now closed. The nominees I have recorded are: >> >> >> >> David Wonderly (Darkwing) >> >> Valorie Zimmerman (valorie) >> >> Philip Muskovac (yofel) >> >> Rohan Garg (shadeslayer) >> >> ::snip:: -- http://about.me/valoriez From rodlovett at ozemail.com.au Thu May 2 12:16:42 2013 From: rodlovett at ozemail.com.au (Rod) Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 22:16:42 +1000 Subject: Desktop dies suddenly 2x installations Message-ID: <5182592A.3090608@ozemail.com.au> I have gone thru recovery many times, but the desktop dies still after 30 mins or so on both installations of kubuntu 32 bit precise. It sure is not very stable. Why is this so Rod From ubuntu at kitterman.com Fri May 3 02:40:42 2013 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 22:40:42 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2013 - Nominations Closed In-Reply-To: References: <2092773.D8GstSbEnq@scott-latitude-e6320> <2583121.UD5kDCBj27@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: <1706181.hP6ReHzUdF@scott-latitude-e6320> On Thursday, May 02, 2013 02:23:48 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote: ... > I seem to have some difficulty in considering who to vote for (or, since we > are having 4 candidates for 3 Kubuntu Council seats, who not to vote for), > since all 4 candidates are well-established members in Ubuntu, Kubuntu and > KDE communities. All 4 of them have been doing substantial tasks for > Kubuntu. And I'm the newest Kubuntu Member. That makes the voting rather, > erm, complicated. > > I have some sort of an idea: Should we hold some "election forum"? It can > be either in IRC or Mumble. Each candidate introduces themselves, then gets > asked questions by other Kubuntu Members and Users. This, I think, makes > the election a more informed one. > > I don't mind if you all disagree, but I might have to consider drawing lots > for voting :) I would like to invite all Kubuntu Members to consider this > idea. ... We decided back in February (and announced then) how we are going to run the election: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2013-February/057678.html If you wanted it to be done differently, that was the time to bring it up. I think it's fine to ask questions of the candidates as you're been doing, but we aren't going to change the election process in the middle of it. Scott K From smartboyhw at gmail.com Fri May 3 03:03:01 2013 From: smartboyhw at gmail.com (Ho Wan Chan) Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 11:03:01 +0800 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2013 - Nominations Closed In-Reply-To: <1706181.hP6ReHzUdF@scott-latitude-e6320> References: <2092773.D8GstSbEnq@scott-latitude-e6320> <2583121.UD5kDCBj27@scott-latitude-e6320> <1706181.hP6ReHzUdF@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: Hello Scott, Some objections: I hadn't been Kubuntu Member yet when you sent that mail. I was approved for Kubuntu Membership on 10th March, 2013. I am not wanting to change the whole skeleton of the voting process, just some sort of place where we can ask questions. Now, I think the mailing list Q&A method works:) BTW, thank you Valorie for your reply, and I hope the other 3 candidates would respond soon:) Regards, Howard Chan (smartboyhw) Kubuntu Member On 2013-5-3 上午10:41, "Scott Kitterman" wrote: > On Thursday, May 02, 2013 02:23:48 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote: > ... > > I seem to have some difficulty in considering who to vote for (or, since > we > > are having 4 candidates for 3 Kubuntu Council seats, who not to vote > for), > > since all 4 candidates are well-established members in Ubuntu, Kubuntu > and > > KDE communities. All 4 of them have been doing substantial tasks for > > Kubuntu. And I'm the newest Kubuntu Member. That makes the voting rather, > > erm, complicated. > > > > I have some sort of an idea: Should we hold some "election forum"? It can > > be either in IRC or Mumble. Each candidate introduces themselves, then > gets > > asked questions by other Kubuntu Members and Users. This, I think, makes > > the election a more informed one. > > > > I don't mind if you all disagree, but I might have to consider drawing > lots > > for voting :) I would like to invite all Kubuntu Members to consider this > > idea. > ... > > We decided back in February (and announced then) how we are going to run > the > election: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2013-February/057678.html > > If you wanted it to be done differently, that was the time to bring it up. > I > think it's fine to ask questions of the candidates as you're been doing, > but we > aren't going to change the election process in the middle of it. > > Scott K > > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ubuntu at kitterman.com Fri May 3 03:08:45 2013 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 23:08:45 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2013 - Nominations Closed In-Reply-To: References: <2092773.D8GstSbEnq@scott-latitude-e6320> <1706181.hP6ReHzUdF@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: <12549467.PJ0Vr4GLCm@scott-latitude-e6320> You did ask for a place to ask questions, which is quite reasonable. I'm glad you're happy withe the mailing list Q&A. You did also say though: > I don't mind if you all disagree, but I might have to consider drawing lots > for voting :) I would like to invite all Kubuntu Members to consider this > idea. That's a rather more substantiative suggestion. Also, a random draw doesn't really fit with the the Ubuntu Leadership CoC says about measuring support: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct (yes, I know it doesn't fit word for word, since this is an election, not a delegation, but the principle applies - the Kubuntu Council can only be effective as long as the Kubuntu membership supports it). Anyway, enough political theory, back to the campaign ... Scott K On Friday, May 03, 2013 11:03:01 AM Ho Wan Chan wrote: > Hello Scott, > > Some objections: I hadn't been Kubuntu Member yet when you sent that mail. > I was approved for Kubuntu Membership on 10th March, 2013. > > I am not wanting to change the whole skeleton of the voting process, just > some sort of place where we can ask questions. > > Now, I think the mailing list Q&A method works:) > > BTW, thank you Valorie for your reply, and I hope the other 3 candidates > would respond soon:) > > Regards, > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) > Kubuntu Member > > On 2013-5-3 上午10:41, "Scott Kitterman" wrote: > > On Thursday, May 02, 2013 02:23:48 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote: > > ... > > > > > I seem to have some difficulty in considering who to vote for (or, since > > > > we > > > > > are having 4 candidates for 3 Kubuntu Council seats, who not to vote > > > > for), > > > > > since all 4 candidates are well-established members in Ubuntu, Kubuntu > > > > and > > > > > KDE communities. All 4 of them have been doing substantial tasks for > > > Kubuntu. And I'm the newest Kubuntu Member. That makes the voting > > > rather, > > > erm, complicated. > > > > > > I have some sort of an idea: Should we hold some "election forum"? It > > > can > > > be either in IRC or Mumble. Each candidate introduces themselves, then > > > > gets > > > > > asked questions by other Kubuntu Members and Users. This, I think, makes > > > the election a more informed one. > > > > > > I don't mind if you all disagree, but I might have to consider drawing > > > > lots > > > > > for voting :) I would like to invite all Kubuntu Members to consider > > > this > > > idea. > > > > ... > > > > We decided back in February (and announced then) how we are going to run > > the > > election: > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2013-February/057678.html > > > > If you wanted it to be done differently, that was the time to bring it up. > > > > I > > > > think it's fine to ask questions of the candidates as you're been doing, > > but we > > aren't going to change the election process in the middle of it. > > > > Scott K > > > > -- > > kubuntu-devel mailing list > > kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel From smartboyhw at gmail.com Fri May 3 03:17:01 2013 From: smartboyhw at gmail.com (Ho Wan Chan) Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 11:17:01 +0800 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2013 - Nominations Closed In-Reply-To: <12549467.PJ0Vr4GLCm@scott-latitude-e6320> References: <2092773.D8GstSbEnq@scott-latitude-e6320> <1706181.hP6ReHzUdF@scott-latitude-e6320> <12549467.PJ0Vr4GLCm@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: Hi Scott again, I don't actually want to draw lots, I just felt that this election was rather a bit difficult to vote on, since all 4 candidates have dedicated years into KDE and Kubuntu. The two questions I asked will be the determining factor for me to vote on which candidates, since I not only care about Kubuntu, I care about the whole Ubuntu community. Thank you Scott for your suggestions:) Regards, Howard Chan (smartboyhw) Kubuntu Member On 2013-5-3 上午11:09, "Scott Kitterman" wrote: > You did ask for a place to ask questions, which is quite reasonable. I'm > glad > you're happy withe the mailing list Q&A. You did also say though: > > > I don't mind if you all disagree, but I might have to consider drawing > lots > > for voting :) I would like to invite all Kubuntu Members to consider this > > idea. > > That's a rather more substantiative suggestion. Also, a random draw > doesn't > really fit with the the Ubuntu Leadership CoC says about measuring support: > > http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct > > (yes, I know it doesn't fit word for word, since this is an election, not a > delegation, but the principle applies - the Kubuntu Council can only be > effective as long as the Kubuntu membership supports it). > > Anyway, enough political theory, back to the campaign ... > > Scott K > > On Friday, May 03, 2013 11:03:01 AM Ho Wan Chan wrote: > > Hello Scott, > > > > Some objections: I hadn't been Kubuntu Member yet when you sent that > mail. > > I was approved for Kubuntu Membership on 10th March, 2013. > > > > I am not wanting to change the whole skeleton of the voting process, just > > some sort of place where we can ask questions. > > > > Now, I think the mailing list Q&A method works:) > > > > BTW, thank you Valorie for your reply, and I hope the other 3 candidates > > would respond soon:) > > > > Regards, > > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) > > Kubuntu Member > > > > On 2013-5-3 上午10:41, "Scott Kitterman" wrote: > > > On Thursday, May 02, 2013 02:23:48 PM Ho Wan Chan wrote: > > > ... > > > > > > > I seem to have some difficulty in considering who to vote for (or, > since > > > > > > we > > > > > > > are having 4 candidates for 3 Kubuntu Council seats, who not to vote > > > > > > for), > > > > > > > since all 4 candidates are well-established members in Ubuntu, > Kubuntu > > > > > > and > > > > > > > KDE communities. All 4 of them have been doing substantial tasks for > > > > Kubuntu. And I'm the newest Kubuntu Member. That makes the voting > > > > rather, > > > > erm, complicated. > > > > > > > > I have some sort of an idea: Should we hold some "election forum"? It > > > > can > > > > be either in IRC or Mumble. Each candidate introduces themselves, > then > > > > > > gets > > > > > > > asked questions by other Kubuntu Members and Users. This, I think, > makes > > > > the election a more informed one. > > > > > > > > I don't mind if you all disagree, but I might have to consider > drawing > > > > > > lots > > > > > > > for voting :) I would like to invite all Kubuntu Members to consider > > > > this > > > > idea. > > > > > > ... > > > > > > We decided back in February (and announced then) how we are going to > run > > > the > > > election: > > > > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2013-February/057678.html > > > > > > If you wanted it to be done differently, that was the time to bring it > up. > > > > > > I > > > > > > think it's fine to ask questions of the candidates as you're been > doing, > > > but we > > > aren't going to change the election process in the middle of it. > > > > > > Scott K > > > > > > -- > > > kubuntu-devel mailing list > > > kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From cody.smith9202 at gmail.com Fri May 3 13:27:15 2013 From: cody.smith9202 at gmail.com (Cody Smith) Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 06:27:15 -0700 Subject: Stream In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: you'd download and install the .deb package like you would on Ubuntu from http://store.steampowered.com/about/ I do this when I need to reinstall Ubuntu GNOME. --c_smith On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Lindsay Mathieson < lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com> wrote: > Anyone know how to get Steam (Linux Ver) installed on Kubuntu? > > Also, any opinions on whether its easier to run the games under 32 bit > rather than 64 bit? > > -- > Lindsay > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Fri May 3 15:37:32 2013 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey (grokit)) Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 11:37:32 -0400 Subject: Stream In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2222482.zaujzIJ0jL@kirk> Just download and install the deb as Cody Smith said. I'm running 64-bit Kubuntu 12.10 & 13.04 on multiple computers with multiple hardware levels and the only problems I've had is that the Steam client doesn't install any dependencies and I always get an 'out of date' message box on startup. I have to admit the dependency problem happened in the first week of that the Steam client was released so it may have gotten some KDE love since then. One more thing to look out for if you are running Kubuntu 12.04 64-bit is if you can install ia32libs at all. There was/is a nasty bug where a 64-bit--32-bit conflict appeared waaaay down the line of dependencies so that you couldn't install _any_ 32-bit libraries. Fixed in 12.10 & 13.04. I couldn't play Limbo until I upgraded :( -- Alan On Friday, May 03, 2013 4:15:18 PM Lindsay Mathieson wrote: Anyone know how to get Steam (Linux Ver) installed on Kubuntu? Also, any opinions on whether its easier to run the games under 32 bit rather than 64 bit? -- Lindsay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri May 3 16:18:27 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 18:18:27 +0200 Subject: back to 12.10... Message-ID: <5183E353.9090406@gmail.com> After a disaster upgrade to 13.04 thought I share my experience and also ask a question. For starters: the upgrade as such went smooth. It was when I rebooted the headaches started.. with plasma crashing on login, endless error messages, desktop looking weird and freezes. I eventually found out that in kernel 3.6 or 7 and up to at least 2.8 the vgaswitcheroo function is buggered. This is the one that assist us unlucky "hybrid graphics" owners to kill off one gpu or switch between them. In my case I either kill my AMD or watch my fan eating battery alive. AMD proprietaty drivers stopped working after 11.10 and yes I have tried Catalyst Legacy. So OK thought perhaps I could live with that after a looong first login I have to log out and then on second login things look kind of normal. Then I discover that the Brodacomm wireless driver has gone buggered since upgrade and I can not downgrade. Any new wifi connection refuses to work. That is where I gave up and reverted to my trusty Remastersys created 12.10 KDE 4.10.0 custom install usb. My question is now: I do not want to upgrade to 4.10.2 via backports PPA as it has issues in KDEPIM but want to only go to 4.10.1 . Does anyone know of way of doing that? For me with AMD/Intel hybrid graphics and Broadcomm wireless 13.04 is a no-go, will have to wait for 13.10 and see what happens. Best regards, Sinclair From cody.smith9202 at gmail.com Fri May 3 21:25:41 2013 From: cody.smith9202 at gmail.com (Cody Smith) Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 14:25:41 -0700 Subject: Stream In-Reply-To: <2222482.zaujzIJ0jL@kirk> References: <2222482.zaujzIJ0jL@kirk> Message-ID: the Steam client typically doesn't install the driver for you, but Jockey-KDE is there to help with the various proprietary drivers, it isn't too hard to use either. --c_smith On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Alan Dacey (grokit) wrote: > ** > > Just download and install the deb as Cody Smith said. > > > > I'm running 64-bit Kubuntu 12.10 & 13.04 on multiple computers with > multiple hardware levels and the only problems I've had is that the Steam > client doesn't install any dependencies and I always get an 'out of date' > message box on startup. I have to admit the dependency problem happened in > the first week of that the Steam client was released so it may have gotten > some KDE love since then. > > One more thing to look out for if you are running Kubuntu 12.04 64-bit is > if you can install ia32libs at all. There was/is a nasty bug where a > 64-bit--32-bit conflict appeared waaaay down the line of dependencies so > that you couldn't install _any_ 32-bit libraries. Fixed in 12.10 & 13.04. I > couldn't play Limbo until I upgraded :( > > > > -- > > Alan > > > > > > On Friday, May 03, 2013 4:15:18 PM Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > > Anyone know how to get Steam (Linux Ver) installed on Kubuntu? > > Also, any opinions on whether its easier to run the games under 32 bit > rather than 64 bit? > > > -- > Lindsay > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sat May 4 01:16:10 2013 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 21:16:10 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2013 - Ballots Issued, Voting Open In-Reply-To: <2583121.UD5kDCBj27@scott-latitude-e6320> References: <2092773.D8GstSbEnq@scott-latitude-e6320> <22410732.FmiTSVlx5S@scott-latitude-e6320> <2583121.UD5kDCBj27@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: <4073421.TdVpKWZ9qp@scott-latitude-e6320> CIVS has emailed out ballots to all Kubuntu members with public email addresses in Launchpad. If you didn't get a ballot, check your spam folder and if you don't find it, contact me. Scott K On Wednesday, May 01, 2013 10:10:17 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > No additional nominees appeared after my second call and the nomination > period has now closed. The nominees I have recorded are: > > David Wonderly (Darkwing) > Valorie Zimmerman (valorie) > Philip Muskovac (yofel) > Rohan Garg (shadeslayer) > > They are all eligible. If somehow you thought you were nominated and you > aren't on this list, contact me immediately. Since there are four nominees > for three seats, there will be an election. > > I will start working on ballot preparation tomorrow. In order to be > eligible to vote, you must be a current Kubuntu member and receive a ballot > via CIVS. In order to receive a ballot, we need an email address. If you > have a public email address in your Launchpad profile, you need take no > action. I will collect them from there. If you do not have one, you will > not get a ballot unless you provide me with an email address. You can > contact me directly either via email or IRC. > > Assuming no foul-ups in preparation, ballots will go out on Saturday and > voting will be open until the end (UTC) of May 20th. > > Best of luck to all the candidates and if you have anything more to > communicate about your candidacy, now's the time ... From phil_lor at bigpond.com Sat May 4 09:50:39 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 19:50:39 +1000 Subject: Connection refused Message-ID: <5184D9EF.4070109@bigpond.com> Thank you for reading this. I'm attempting to connect to the xbmc web server but it's not working. If I try "http://localhost:8080" then I receive a connection refused error. Ufw is disabled, what should I be looking for to get this working? A Google search didn't turn up anything useful. -- Regards, Phil From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat May 4 09:51:33 2013 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 19:51:33 +1000 Subject: Stream In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1739871.Gm58RffMJ3@lindsay-kubuntu> On Fri, 3 May 2013 06:27:15 AM Cody Smith wrote: > you'd download and install the .deb package like you would on Ubuntu > from http://store.steampowered.com/about/ Thanks Cody (and everyone else). I hadn't looked at Steam since the beta and didn't realise they'd made the deb easily accessible. Works a charm. -- Lindsay -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Sat May 4 09:58:02 2013 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 16:58:02 +0700 Subject: Connection refused In-Reply-To: <5184D9EF.4070109@bigpond.com> References: <5184D9EF.4070109@bigpond.com> Message-ID: On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Phil wrote: > Thank you for reading this. > > I'm attempting to connect to the xbmc web server but it's not working. If I > try "http://localhost:8080" then I receive a connection refused error. Ufw > is disabled, what should I be looking for to get this working? > > A Google search didn't turn up anything useful. Have you enable the webserver? The webserver is disabled by default and has to be manually enabled by the user: Settings > Services > Webserver > Allow control of XBMC via HTTP DK From phil_lor at bigpond.com Sat May 4 10:13:39 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 20:13:39 +1000 Subject: Connection refused In-Reply-To: References: <5184D9EF.4070109@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <5184DF53.2090000@bigpond.com> On 04/05/13 19:58, David Kuntadi wrote: > On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Phil wrote: >> Thank you for reading this. >> >> I'm attempting to connect to the xbmc web server but it's not working. If I >> try "http://localhost:8080" then I receive a connection refused error. Ufw >> is disabled, what should I be looking for to get this working? >> >> A Google search didn't turn up anything useful. > > Have you enable the webserver? The webserver is disabled by default > and has to be manually enabled by the user: > > Settings > Services > Webserver > Allow control of XBMC via HTTP Thank you for your quick response. Yes I have enabled "Allow control of XBMC via HTTP" I have left the port as 80 and I have cleared the username and password in case that was a problem and I have left the web interface as "default" I can access files via my network so I know the IP address is correct and functioning. The Xbmc web site shows how to set up the web remote control and it is so simple so I must have misunderstood something very basic. This is exactly what I'm trying "http://10.0.0.3:8080". Firefox gives the standard error response but rekong gives a more useful message saying that the connection is refused. -- Regards, Phil From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Sat May 4 10:38:44 2013 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 17:38:44 +0700 Subject: Connection refused In-Reply-To: <5184DF53.2090000@bigpond.com> References: <5184D9EF.4070109@bigpond.com> <5184DF53.2090000@bigpond.com> Message-ID: On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Phil wrote: > I have left the port as 80 and I have cleared the username and password in > case that was a problem and I have left the web interface as "default" Do you mean 8080 or really 80? If you set as 80 sure that is the problem. But if you set is as 8080, try to use high port, such as 60000. May be other program is already using 8080 port. DK From phil_lor at bigpond.com Sat May 4 10:47:16 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 20:47:16 +1000 Subject: Connection refused In-Reply-To: References: <5184D9EF.4070109@bigpond.com> <5184DF53.2090000@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <5184E734.4030205@bigpond.com> On 04/05/13 20:38, David Kuntadi wrote: > On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Phil wrote: >> I have left the port as 80 and I have cleared the username and password in >> case that was a problem and I have left the web interface as "default" > > Do you mean 8080 or really 80? If you set as 80 sure that is the problem. > But if you set is as 8080, try to use high port, such as 60000. May be > other program is already using 8080 port. > Thanks again David, The port is set to '80' but something I read on a blog suggested :8080. I did try setting the port to "8080" but the result was the same. I'll have to try another port tomorrow, my wife wants to watch the TV. -- Regards, Phil From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Sat May 4 21:50:25 2013 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey (grokit)) Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 17:50:25 -0400 Subject: Stream In-Reply-To: References: <2222482.zaujzIJ0jL@kirk> Message-ID: <1513900.ToNhjC5pnT@kirk> Yeah, I know and use it on new installs because it's easy to check if anything is missing but the nvidia driver was already installed, I play other games that need it too off of Steam. I just mentioned it because I had to track down why my game wouldn't play. Once I saw the solution it was a simple apt-get install away. -- Alan On Friday, May 03, 2013 2:25:41 PM Cody Smith wrote: the Steam client typically doesn't install the driver for you, but Jockey-KDE is there to help with the various proprietary drivers, it isn't too hard to use either. --c_smith On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Alan Dacey (grokit) wrote: Just download and install the deb as Cody Smith said. I'm running 64-bit Kubuntu 12.10 & 13.04 on multiple computers with multiple hardware levels and the only problems I've had is that the Steam client doesn't install any dependencies and I always get an 'out of date' message box on startup. I have to admit the dependency problem happened in the first week of that the Steam client was released so it may have gotten some KDE love since then. One more thing to look out for if you are running Kubuntu 12.04 64-bit is if you can install ia32libs at all. There was/is a nasty bug where a 64-bit--32-bit conflict appeared waaaay down the line of dependencies so that you couldn't install _any_ 32-bit libraries. Fixed in 12.10 & 13.04. I couldn't play Limbo until I upgraded :( -- Alan On Friday, May 03, 2013 4:15:18 PM Lindsay Mathieson wrote: Anyone know how to get Steam (Linux Ver) installed on Kubuntu? Also, any opinions on whether its easier to run the games under 32 bit rather than 64 bit? -- Lindsay -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phil_lor at bigpond.com Sun May 5 00:03:22 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 10:03:22 +1000 Subject: Connection refused - solved In-Reply-To: References: <5184D9EF.4070109@bigpond.com> <5184DF53.2090000@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <5185A1CA.6010002@bigpond.com> On 04/05/13 20:38, David Kuntadi wrote: > On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Phil wrote: >> I have left the port as 80 and I have cleared the username and password in >> case that was a problem and I have left the web interface as "default" > > Do you mean 8080 or really 80? If you set as 80 sure that is the problem. > But if you set is as 8080, try to use high port, such as 60000. May be > other program is already using 8080 port. The problem has been solved, after a night's rest the. While experimenting with the router yesterday it seems that it had assigned a different IP address to the media player. I had convinced myself that Kubuntu was somehow blocking my access to the media player, which wasn't the case. -- Regards, Phil From jfrantzius at gmail.com Mon May 6 10:49:21 2013 From: jfrantzius at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_von_Frantzius?=) Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 12:49:21 +0200 Subject: back to 12.10... In-Reply-To: <5183E353.9090406@gmail.com> References: <5183E353.9090406@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sinclair, I'm not on 13.04 yet but would like to, and I'm a bit worried now about the problems with Broadcom wireless drivers. Do you have the bcmwl-kernel-source package installed? Could you tell a bit what the symptoms were? Regards, Jörg 2013/5/3 O. Sinclair > After a disaster upgrade to 13.04 thought I share my experience and also > ask a question. > > For starters: the upgrade as such went smooth. It was when I rebooted the > headaches started.. with plasma crashing on login, endless error messages, > desktop looking weird and freezes. > > I eventually found out that in kernel 3.6 or 7 and up to at least 2.8 the > vgaswitcheroo function is buggered. This is the one that assist us unlucky > "hybrid graphics" owners to kill off one gpu or switch between them. In my > case I either kill my AMD or watch my fan eating battery alive. AMD > proprietaty drivers stopped working after 11.10 and yes I have tried > Catalyst Legacy. > > So OK thought perhaps I could live with that after a looong first login I > have to log out and then on second login things look kind of normal. > > Then I discover that the Brodacomm wireless driver has gone buggered since > upgrade and I can not downgrade. Any new wifi connection refuses to work. > > That is where I gave up and reverted to my trusty Remastersys created > 12.10 KDE 4.10.0 custom install usb. > > My question is now: I do not want to upgrade to 4.10.2 via backports PPA > as it has issues in KDEPIM but want to only go to 4.10.1 . Does anyone know > of way of doing that? > > For me with AMD/Intel hybrid graphics and Broadcomm wireless 13.04 is a > no-go, will have to wait for 13.10 and see what happens. > > Best regards, > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Hier miniblogge ich so vor mich hin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ubuntu at kitterman.com Mon May 6 12:09:50 2013 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 08:09:50 -0400 Subject: back to 12.10... In-Reply-To: References: <5183E353.9090406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <69b7cc21-9e9e-413a-b020-63d3f2377a63@email.android.com> "Jörg von Frantzius" wrote: >Hi Sinclair, > >I'm not on 13.04 yet but would like to, and I'm a bit worried now about >the >problems with Broadcom wireless drivers. Do you have the >bcmwl-kernel-source package installed? Could you tell a bit what the >symptoms were? > >Regards, >Jörg > > >2013/5/3 O. Sinclair > >> After a disaster upgrade to 13.04 thought I share my experience and >also >> ask a question. >> >> For starters: the upgrade as such went smooth. It was when I rebooted >the >> headaches started.. with plasma crashing on login, endless error >messages, >> desktop looking weird and freezes. >> >> I eventually found out that in kernel 3.6 or 7 and up to at least 2.8 >the >> vgaswitcheroo function is buggered. This is the one that assist us >unlucky >> "hybrid graphics" owners to kill off one gpu or switch between them. >In my >> case I either kill my AMD or watch my fan eating battery alive. AMD >> proprietaty drivers stopped working after 11.10 and yes I have tried >> Catalyst Legacy. >> >> So OK thought perhaps I could live with that after a looong first >login I >> have to log out and then on second login things look kind of normal. >> >> Then I discover that the Brodacomm wireless driver has gone buggered >since >> upgrade and I can not downgrade. Any new wifi connection refuses to >work. >> >> That is where I gave up and reverted to my trusty Remastersys created >> 12.10 KDE 4.10.0 custom install usb. >> >> My question is now: I do not want to upgrade to 4.10.2 via backports >PPA >> as it has issues in KDEPIM but want to only go to 4.10.1 . Does >anyone know >> of way of doing that? >> >> For me with AMD/Intel hybrid graphics and Broadcomm wireless 13.04 is >a >> no-go, will have to wait for 13.10 and see what happens. >> >> Best regards, >> Sinclair >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** >> >mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> Broadcom works fine for me. Try it out with a love CD if you wamt to resolve your doubts. Scott K From jfrantzius at gmail.com Mon May 6 19:12:46 2013 From: jfrantzius at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_von_Frantzius?=) Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 21:12:46 +0200 Subject: back to 12.10... In-Reply-To: <69b7cc21-9e9e-413a-b020-63d3f2377a63@email.android.com> References: <5183E353.9090406@gmail.com> <69b7cc21-9e9e-413a-b020-63d3f2377a63@email.android.com> Message-ID: Good idea, thanks Scott! 2013/5/6 Scott Kitterman > "Jörg von Frantzius" wrote: > > >Hi Sinclair, > > > >I'm not on 13.04 yet but would like to, and I'm a bit worried now about > >the > >problems with Broadcom wireless drivers. Do you have the > >bcmwl-kernel-source package installed? Could you tell a bit what the > >symptoms were? > > > >Regards, > >Jörg > > > > > >2013/5/3 O. Sinclair > > > >> After a disaster upgrade to 13.04 thought I share my experience and > >also > >> ask a question. > >> > >> For starters: the upgrade as such went smooth. It was when I rebooted > >the > >> headaches started.. with plasma crashing on login, endless error > >messages, > >> desktop looking weird and freezes. > >> > >> I eventually found out that in kernel 3.6 or 7 and up to at least 2.8 > >the > >> vgaswitcheroo function is buggered. This is the one that assist us > >unlucky > >> "hybrid graphics" owners to kill off one gpu or switch between them. > >In my > >> case I either kill my AMD or watch my fan eating battery alive. AMD > >> proprietaty drivers stopped working after 11.10 and yes I have tried > >> Catalyst Legacy. > >> > >> So OK thought perhaps I could live with that after a looong first > >login I > >> have to log out and then on second login things look kind of normal. > >> > >> Then I discover that the Brodacomm wireless driver has gone buggered > >since > >> upgrade and I can not downgrade. Any new wifi connection refuses to > >work. > >> > >> That is where I gave up and reverted to my trusty Remastersys created > >> 12.10 KDE 4.10.0 custom install usb. > >> > >> My question is now: I do not want to upgrade to 4.10.2 via backports > >PPA > >> as it has issues in KDEPIM but want to only go to 4.10.1 . Does > >anyone know > >> of way of doing that? > >> > >> For me with AMD/Intel hybrid graphics and Broadcomm wireless 13.04 is > >a > >> no-go, will have to wait for 13.10 and see what happens. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Sinclair > >> > >> -- > >> kubuntu-users mailing list > >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > >> > >mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users< > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users> > >> > > Broadcom works fine for me. Try it out with a love CD if you wamt to > resolve your doubts. > > Scott K > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Hier miniblogge ich so vor mich hin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue May 7 04:14:51 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 06:14:51 +0200 Subject: back to 12.10... In-Reply-To: References: <5183E353.9090406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51887FBB.40503@gmail.com> On 06/05/2013 12:49, Jörg von Frantzius wrote: > Hi Sinclair, > > I'm not on 13.04 yet but would like to, and I'm a bit worried now about > the problems with Broadcom wireless drivers. Do you have the > bcmwl-kernel-source package installed? Could you tell a bit what the > symptoms were? > > Regards, > Jörg > > > 2013/5/3 O. Sinclair > > > After a disaster upgrade to 13.04 thought I share my experience and > also ask a question. > > For starters: the upgrade as such went smooth. It was when I > rebooted the headaches started.. with plasma crashing on login, > endless error messages, desktop looking weird and freezes. > > I eventually found out that in kernel 3.6 or 7 and up to at least > 2.8 the vgaswitcheroo function is buggered. This is the one that > assist us unlucky "hybrid graphics" owners to kill off one gpu or > switch between them. In my case I either kill my AMD or watch my fan > eating battery alive. AMD proprietaty drivers stopped working after > 11.10 and yes I have tried Catalyst Legacy. > > So OK thought perhaps I could live with that after a looong first > login I have to log out and then on second login things look kind of > normal. > > Then I discover that the Brodacomm wireless driver has gone buggered > since upgrade and I can not downgrade. Any new wifi connection > refuses to work. > > That is where I gave up and reverted to my trusty Remastersys > created 12.10 KDE 4.10.0 custom install usb. > > My question is now: I do not want to upgrade to 4.10.2 via backports > PPA as it has issues in KDEPIM but want to only go to 4.10.1 . Does > anyone know of way of doing that? > > For me with AMD/Intel hybrid graphics and Broadcomm wireless 13.04 > is a no-go, will have to wait for 13.10 and see what happens. > the symptom is that any new connection will not work and your logs are flooded with error messages when the wifi is switched on. I could not even work in a console as I would get constant errors while trying to type commands. This with existing and working connections. I gave up when I could not connect to a new wifi router in our house that others had no problems with. Reverting to 12.10 all works as expected. The bug is known, it has to do with bcmwl-kernel-source version. I agree with Scott: try out a live CD before anything else. For me (note ME, not others) there is nothing to gain from the upgrade. The kernel has issues with hybrid graphics (also known) and my wifi driver goes bonkers. I have skipped versions before and will do this time. I would love to go Libreoffice 4 but can survive with 3.6 Kindly, Sinclair From girardhenri at free.fr Tue May 7 04:33:11 2013 From: girardhenri at free.fr (girard henri) Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 06:33:11 +0200 Subject: back to 12.10... In-Reply-To: <51887FBB.40503@gmail.com> References: <5183E353.9090406@gmail.com> <51887FBB.40503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51888407.608@free.fr> It's strange because ubuntu is always going smooth on update... Maybe kde is more particuliar Le 07/05/2013 06:14, O. Sinclair a écrit : > On 06/05/2013 12:49, Jörg von Frantzius wrote: >> Hi Sinclair, >> >> I'm not on 13.04 yet but would like to, and I'm a bit worried now about >> the problems with Broadcom wireless drivers. Do you have the >> bcmwl-kernel-source package installed? Could you tell a bit what the >> symptoms were? >> >> Regards, >> Jörg >> >> >> 2013/5/3 O. Sinclair > > >> >> After a disaster upgrade to 13.04 thought I share my experience and >> also ask a question. >> >> For starters: the upgrade as such went smooth. It was when I >> rebooted the headaches started.. with plasma crashing on login, >> endless error messages, desktop looking weird and freezes. >> >> I eventually found out that in kernel 3.6 or 7 and up to at least >> 2.8 the vgaswitcheroo function is buggered. This is the one that >> assist us unlucky "hybrid graphics" owners to kill off one gpu or >> switch between them. In my case I either kill my AMD or watch my fan >> eating battery alive. AMD proprietaty drivers stopped working after >> 11.10 and yes I have tried Catalyst Legacy. >> >> So OK thought perhaps I could live with that after a looong first >> login I have to log out and then on second login things look kind of >> normal. >> >> Then I discover that the Brodacomm wireless driver has gone buggered >> since upgrade and I can not downgrade. Any new wifi connection >> refuses to work. >> >> That is where I gave up and reverted to my trusty Remastersys >> created 12.10 KDE 4.10.0 custom install usb. >> >> My question is now: I do not want to upgrade to 4.10.2 via backports >> PPA as it has issues in KDEPIM but want to only go to 4.10.1 . Does >> anyone know of way of doing that? >> >> For me with AMD/Intel hybrid graphics and Broadcomm wireless 13.04 >> is a no-go, will have to wait for 13.10 and see what happens. >> > the symptom is that any new connection will not work and your logs are > flooded with error messages when the wifi is switched on. > > I could not even work in a console as I would get constant errors > while trying to type commands. This with existing and working > connections. I gave up when I could not connect to a new wifi router > in our house that others had no problems with. Reverting to 12.10 all > works as expected. > > The bug is known, it has to do with bcmwl-kernel-source version. > > I agree with Scott: try out a live CD before anything else. For me > (note ME, not others) there is nothing to gain from the upgrade. The > kernel has issues with hybrid graphics (also known) and my wifi driver > goes bonkers. > > I have skipped versions before and will do this time. I would love to > go Libreoffice 4 but can survive with 3.6 > > Kindly, > Sinclair > From ubuntu at kitterman.com Tue May 7 04:42:13 2013 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 00:42:13 -0400 Subject: back to 12.10... In-Reply-To: <51888407.608@free.fr> References: <5183E353.9090406@gmail.com> <51887FBB.40503@gmail.com> <51888407.608@free.fr> Message-ID: <19a012f8-6c07-4657-8bf9-9ddef5bfb465@email.android.com> girard henri wrote: >It's strange because ubuntu is always going smooth on update... Maybe >kde is more particuliar > >Le 07/05/2013 06:14, O. Sinclair a écrit : >> On 06/05/2013 12:49, Jörg von Frantzius wrote: >>> Hi Sinclair, >>> >>> I'm not on 13.04 yet but would like to, and I'm a bit worried now >about >>> the problems with Broadcom wireless drivers. Do you have the >>> bcmwl-kernel-source package installed? Could you tell a bit what the >>> symptoms were? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jörg >>> >>> >>> 2013/5/3 O. Sinclair >> > >>> >>> After a disaster upgrade to 13.04 thought I share my experience >and >>> also ask a question. >>> >>> For starters: the upgrade as such went smooth. It was when I >>> rebooted the headaches started.. with plasma crashing on login, >>> endless error messages, desktop looking weird and freezes. >>> >>> I eventually found out that in kernel 3.6 or 7 and up to at >least >>> 2.8 the vgaswitcheroo function is buggered. This is the one that >>> assist us unlucky "hybrid graphics" owners to kill off one gpu >or >>> switch between them. In my case I either kill my AMD or watch my >fan >>> eating battery alive. AMD proprietaty drivers stopped working >after >>> 11.10 and yes I have tried Catalyst Legacy. >>> >>> So OK thought perhaps I could live with that after a looong >first >>> login I have to log out and then on second login things look >kind of >>> normal. >>> >>> Then I discover that the Brodacomm wireless driver has gone >buggered >>> since upgrade and I can not downgrade. Any new wifi connection >>> refuses to work. >>> >>> That is where I gave up and reverted to my trusty Remastersys >>> created 12.10 KDE 4.10.0 custom install usb. >>> >>> My question is now: I do not want to upgrade to 4.10.2 via >backports >>> PPA as it has issues in KDEPIM but want to only go to 4.10.1 . >Does >>> anyone know of way of doing that? >>> >>> For me with AMD/Intel hybrid graphics and Broadcomm wireless >13.04 >>> is a no-go, will have to wait for 13.10 and see what happens. >>> >> the symptom is that any new connection will not work and your logs >are >> flooded with error messages when the wifi is switched on. >> >> I could not even work in a console as I would get constant errors >> while trying to type commands. This with existing and working >> connections. I gave up when I could not connect to a new wifi router >> in our house that others had no problems with. Reverting to 12.10 all > >> works as expected. >> >> The bug is known, it has to do with bcmwl-kernel-source version. >> >> I agree with Scott: try out a live CD before anything else. For me >> (note ME, not others) there is nothing to gain from the upgrade. The >> kernel has issues with hybrid graphics (also known) and my wifi >driver >> goes bonkers. >> >> I have skipped versions before and will do this time. I would love to > >> go Libreoffice 4 but can survive with 3.6 >> >> Kindly, >> Sinclair >> The bits in question here are common. It's more likely related to a specific hardware configuration. Scott K From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue May 7 04:42:42 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 06:42:42 +0200 Subject: back to 12.10... In-Reply-To: <51888407.608@free.fr> References: <5183E353.9090406@gmail.com> <51887FBB.40503@gmail.com> <51888407.608@free.fr> Message-ID: <51888642.3030208@gmail.com> On 07/05/2013 06:33, girard henri wrote: > It's strange because ubuntu is always going smooth on update... Maybe > kde is more particuliar > > Le 07/05/2013 06:14, O. Sinclair a écrit : >> On 06/05/2013 12:49, Jörg von Frantzius wrote: >>> Hi Sinclair, >>> >>> I'm not on 13.04 yet but would like to, and I'm a bit worried now about >>> the problems with Broadcom wireless drivers. Do you have the >>> bcmwl-kernel-source package installed? Could you tell a bit what the >>> symptoms were? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jörg >>> >>> >>> 2013/5/3 O. Sinclair >> > >>> >>> After a disaster upgrade to 13.04 thought I share my experience and >>> also ask a question. >>> >>> For starters: the upgrade as such went smooth. It was when I >>> rebooted the headaches started.. with plasma crashing on login, >>> endless error messages, desktop looking weird and freezes. >>> >>> I eventually found out that in kernel 3.6 or 7 and up to at least >>> 2.8 the vgaswitcheroo function is buggered. This is the one that >>> assist us unlucky "hybrid graphics" owners to kill off one gpu or >>> switch between them. In my case I either kill my AMD or watch my fan >>> eating battery alive. AMD proprietaty drivers stopped working after >>> 11.10 and yes I have tried Catalyst Legacy. >>> >>> So OK thought perhaps I could live with that after a looong first >>> login I have to log out and then on second login things look kind of >>> normal. >>> >>> Then I discover that the Brodacomm wireless driver has gone buggered >>> since upgrade and I can not downgrade. Any new wifi connection >>> refuses to work. >>> >>> That is where I gave up and reverted to my trusty Remastersys >>> created 12.10 KDE 4.10.0 custom install usb. >>> >>> My question is now: I do not want to upgrade to 4.10.2 via backports >>> PPA as it has issues in KDEPIM but want to only go to 4.10.1 . Does >>> anyone know of way of doing that? >>> >>> For me with AMD/Intel hybrid graphics and Broadcomm wireless 13.04 >>> is a no-go, will have to wait for 13.10 and see what happens. >>> >> the symptom is that any new connection will not work and your logs are >> flooded with error messages when the wifi is switched on. >> >> I could not even work in a console as I would get constant errors >> while trying to type commands. This with existing and working >> connections. I gave up when I could not connect to a new wifi router >> in our house that others had no problems with. Reverting to 12.10 all >> works as expected. >> >> The bug is known, it has to do with bcmwl-kernel-source version. >> >> I agree with Scott: try out a live CD before anything else. For me >> (note ME, not others) there is nothing to gain from the upgrade. The >> kernel has issues with hybrid graphics (also known) and my wifi driver >> goes bonkers. >> >> I have skipped versions before and will do this time. I would love to >> go Libreoffice 4 but can survive with 3.6 >> these issues are not KDE or even Ubuntu, they are kernel and driver. If you look up the vgaswitcheroo you will find users of all recent kernels complaining From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Tue May 7 06:49:53 2013 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 07:49:53 +0100 Subject: back to 12.10... In-Reply-To: <51887FBB.40503@gmail.com> References: <5183E353.9090406@gmail.com> <51887FBB.40503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3651301.jC5czNY01D@rachael> On Tuesday 07 May 2013 06:14:51 O. Sinclair wrote: > > I could not even work in a console as I would get constant errors while > trying to type commands. This with existing and working connections. I > gave up when I could not connect to a new wifi router in our house that > others had no problems with. Reverting to 12.10 all works as expected. > > The bug is known, it has to do with bcmwl-kernel-source version. > > I agree with Scott: try out a live CD before anything else. For me (note > ME, not others) there is nothing to gain from the upgrade. The kernel > has issues with hybrid graphics (also known) and my wifi driver goes > bonkers. > > I have skipped versions before and will do this time. I would love to go > Libreoffice 4 but can survive with 3.6 If you want to stay on 12.10 and have Libreoffice 4.0, you can use the Libreoffice PPA. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue May 7 06:58:18 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 08:58:18 +0200 Subject: back to 12.10... In-Reply-To: <3651301.jC5czNY01D@rachael> References: <5183E353.9090406@gmail.com> <51887FBB.40503@gmail.com> <3651301.jC5czNY01D@rachael> Message-ID: <5188A60A.8000303@gmail.com> On 07/05/2013 08:49, Mark Fraser wrote: > On Tuesday 07 May 2013 06:14:51 O. Sinclair wrote: >> >> I could not even work in a console as I would get constant errors while >> trying to type commands. This with existing and working connections. I >> gave up when I could not connect to a new wifi router in our house that >> others had no problems with. Reverting to 12.10 all works as expected. >> >> The bug is known, it has to do with bcmwl-kernel-source version. >> >> I agree with Scott: try out a live CD before anything else. For me (note >> ME, not others) there is nothing to gain from the upgrade. The kernel >> has issues with hybrid graphics (also known) and my wifi driver goes >> bonkers. >> >> I have skipped versions before and will do this time. I would love to go >> Libreoffice 4 but can survive with 3.6 > > If you want to stay on 12.10 and have Libreoffice 4.0, you can use the > Libreoffice PPA. > I know, but the Kde integration stuff does not seem to be part of it so Libreoffice looks c..p when updated From myriam at kde.org Tue May 7 07:35:00 2013 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 09:35:00 +0200 Subject: back to 12.10... In-Reply-To: <5188A60A.8000303@gmail.com> References: <5183E353.9090406@gmail.com> <51887FBB.40503@gmail.com> <3651301.jC5czNY01D@rachael> <5188A60A.8000303@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Orjan, On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:58 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 07/05/2013 08:49, Mark Fraser wrote: >> >> On Tuesday 07 May 2013 06:14:51 O. Sinclair wrote: >>> ... >> >> If you want to stay on 12.10 and have Libreoffice 4.0, you can use the >> Libreoffice PPA. >> > I know, but the Kde integration stuff does not seem to be part of it so > Libreoffice looks c..p when updated Well, the Kubuntu PPA and Kubuntu backports PPA are available for 12.10 as well, did you activate those? They ship KDE 4.10.2 AFAIK, and are officially maintained by the Kubuntu devs Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue May 7 07:55:54 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 09:55:54 +0200 Subject: back to 12.10... In-Reply-To: References: <5183E353.9090406@gmail.com> <51887FBB.40503@gmail.com> <3651301.jC5czNY01D@rachael> <5188A60A.8000303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5188B38A.5070302@gmail.com> On 07/05/2013 09:35, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Orjan, > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:58 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 07/05/2013 08:49, Mark Fraser wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday 07 May 2013 06:14:51 O. Sinclair wrote: >>>> > ... >>> >>> If you want to stay on 12.10 and have Libreoffice 4.0, you can use the >>> Libreoffice PPA. >>> >> I know, but the Kde integration stuff does not seem to be part of it so >> Libreoffice looks c..p when updated > > Well, the Kubuntu PPA and Kubuntu backports PPA are available for > 12.10 as well, did you activate those? They ship KDE 4.10.2 AFAIK, and > are officially maintained by the Kubuntu devs > > > Regards, Myriam > Yes Myriam, and in 4.10.2 the address autocompletion bug rears its ugly head again. From stan10x10 at gmail.com Wed May 8 02:24:01 2013 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (Uriah Heep) Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 22:24:01 -0400 Subject: problem installing firefox in 12.10 Message-ID: when trying to install firefox on a fresh install of 12.10 I get the following error and need some help with it /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3_amd64.deb Error: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop', which is also in package kubuntu-firefox-installer 12.04ubuntu1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ubuntu at kitterman.com Wed May 8 02:54:31 2013 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 22:54:31 -0400 Subject: problem installing firefox in 12.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1622067.1N0LtgOvPr@scott-latitude-e6320> On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 10:24:01 PM Uriah Heep wrote: > when trying to install firefox on a fresh install of 12.10 I get the > following error and need some help with it > > /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3_amd64.deb > > Error: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop', which > is also in package kubuntu-firefox-installer 12.04ubuntu1 Uninstall kubuntu-firefox-installer and then install firefox. Alternately, use the Kubuntu Firefox Installer. Either way should work. Scott K From thomas at tanghus.net Wed May 8 18:11:06 2013 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Tanghus Olsen) Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 20:11:06 +0200 Subject: problem installing firefox in 12.10 In-Reply-To: <1622067.1N0LtgOvPr@scott-latitude-e6320> References: <1622067.1N0LtgOvPr@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: <2987307.fGugfVPXbB@tanghus> On Tuesday 07 May 2013 22:54 Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 10:24:01 PM Uriah Heep wrote: > > when trying to install firefox on a fresh install of 12.10 I get the > > following error and need some help with it > > > > /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3_amd64.deb > > > > Error: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop', > > which > > is also in package kubuntu-firefox-installer 12.04ubuntu1 > > Uninstall kubuntu-firefox-installer and then install firefox. Alternately, > use the Kubuntu Firefox Installer. Either way should work. Recently did a 12.10 install too, and it was actually Kubuntu Firefox Installer that triggered the above error. I was in a hurry, so did a dpkg -i --force on the package. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus Olsen From phb at hbsys.plus.com Wed May 8 19:30:34 2013 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 20:30:34 +0100 Subject: Synaptic Message-ID: <518AA7DA.9060008@hbsys.plus.com> I recently performed a clean install of Kubuntu 13.04 on a new hard disk and, as is my wont I rapidly installed Synaptic in preference to any of the (k)ubuntu update managers. The first thing I noticed is that the user interface has changed significantly from the version on a 13.04 upgrade from earlier releases, rendering it seriously less usable. In particular there is no longer an option to choose repositories: in my case I wanted "Partner" to get hold of the Wine beta release. What's going on? Is this a plot to force the use of update managers rather than Synaptic? It doesn't work as it's not too onerous to directly edit /etc/apt/sources.list, but not everyone will want to do that. Incidentally, on the topic of sources.list the man pages say that options between square brackets are text pairs of the form of option=value. This is definitely not the case with the various flavours of Ubuntu, where undefined control characters appear to be used. Comments on this would also be welcome. Peter HB From girardhenri at free.fr Wed May 8 19:42:38 2013 From: girardhenri at free.fr (girard henri) Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 21:42:38 +0200 Subject: Synaptic In-Reply-To: <518AA7DA.9060008@hbsys.plus.com> References: <518AA7DA.9060008@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: <518AAAAE.1020309@free.fr> Le 08/05/2013 21:30, Peter Hillier-Brook a écrit : > I recently performed a clean install of Kubuntu 13.04 on a new hard > disk and, as is my wont I rapidly installed Synaptic in preference to > any of the (k)ubuntu update managers. The first thing I noticed is > that the user interface has changed significantly from the version on > a 13.04 upgrade from earlier releases, rendering it seriously less > usable. In particular there is no longer an option to choose > repositories: in my case I wanted "Partner" to get hold of the Wine > beta release. > > What's going on? Is this a plot to force the use of update managers > rather than Synaptic? It doesn't work as it's not too onerous to > directly edit /etc/apt/sources.list, but not everyone will want to do > that. > > Incidentally, on the topic of sources.list the man pages say that > options between square brackets are text pairs of the form of > option=value. This is definitely not the case with the various > flavours of Ubuntu, where undefined control characters appear to be > used. Comments on this would also be welcome. > > Peter HB > leaving synaptic is like killing deb From ubuntu at kitterman.com Wed May 8 19:46:54 2013 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 15:46:54 -0400 Subject: Synaptic In-Reply-To: <518AA7DA.9060008@hbsys.plus.com> References: <518AA7DA.9060008@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: No one in Kubuntu had anything to do with synaptic. No conspiracy here. Scott K From stan10x10 at gmail.com Wed May 8 23:18:17 2013 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (Uriah Heep) Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 19:18:17 -0400 Subject: problem installing firefox in 12.10 In-Reply-To: <2987307.fGugfVPXbB@tanghus> References: <1622067.1N0LtgOvPr@scott-latitude-e6320> <2987307.fGugfVPXbB@tanghus> Message-ID: Thanks used muon to delete firefox then terminal sudo agt-get install firefox and it worked like a charm. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Thomas Tanghus Olsen wrote: > On Tuesday 07 May 2013 22:54 Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 10:24:01 PM Uriah Heep wrote: > > > when trying to install firefox on a fresh install of 12.10 I get the > > > following error and need some help with it > > > > > > /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_20.0+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.3_amd64.deb > > > > > > Error: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop', > > > which > > > is also in package kubuntu-firefox-installer 12.04ubuntu1 > > > > Uninstall kubuntu-firefox-installer and then install firefox. > Alternately, > > use the Kubuntu Firefox Installer. Either way should work. > > Recently did a 12.10 install too, and it was actually Kubuntu Firefox > Installer that triggered the above error. I was in a hurry, so did a > dpkg -i --force on the package. > > -- > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards > > Thomas Tanghus Olsen > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulmunro at linuxmail.org Thu May 9 13:15:41 2013 From: paulmunro at linuxmail.org (Paul Munro) Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 13:15:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Plasma Desktop Crashes Message-ID: <1374912703.4572830.1368105341386.JavaMail.tomcat6@ibriss06.dlan.cinetic.de> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu May 9 13:39:58 2013 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 13:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Plasma Desktop Crashes In-Reply-To: <1374912703.4572830.1368105341386.JavaMail.tomcat6@ibriss06.dlan.cinetic.de> Message-ID: <423930679.1996855.1368106798098.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Had a similar problem. Corrected by renaming ~/.kde and then restarting kde. Was a PITA to reconfigure the UI, but I haven't had a problem since. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Munro" To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 9:15:41 AM Subject: Plasma Desktop Crashes I am experiencing frequent crashes of the Plasma Destop since upgrading to 13.4 Is there a patch/fix for this yet? Also is anyone else having the same issue? It seems to be a rather random thing as switching desktops can cause it, opening a new program also seems to cause it, but not evertime. Raandom crashes also seem to occur. Sometimes the desktop reloads but a few times I have had to log out and reload to get it back. Any insight, or solution info. would be appericated and thanks in advance Running Kubuntu 13.4 on a duel core 220 Pentium Toshiba Satellite L455 w/4G of RAM and an Intell Vid chipset Have been running Ubuntu/Windows on this machine since Ubuntu 12.4 and Win7. Upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 and added KDE Desktop then upgraded to Win8 all with no major problems. Upgraded to Kubuntu 13.4 and ran machine for several (4-5) days with no problems after doing first system reboot problems started occuring. Again thx in advance for any knowledge or solutions to this issue. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Corrected by renaming ~/.kde and then restarting kde. > Was a PITA to reconfigure the UI, but I haven't had a problem since. Paul > > A simpler alternative is to delete/move the specific config files, in this case all the plasma*.rc files in ~/.kde/config. This way only the desktop settings are re-created instead of each and every KDE application losing their settings. It is preferred to do this outside of a KDE session as cached configurations may be written back to disk. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com From errol at tzora.co.il Fri May 10 14:00:09 2013 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 14:00:09 +0000 Subject: incorrect time Message-ID: <518CFD69.4090909@tzora.co.il> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If yes, try "ntpdate -q pool.ntp.org", > and compare it to the output of "date -u". > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- James Cain -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jgomezdans at gmail.com Fri May 10 15:15:13 2013 From: jgomezdans at gmail.com (Jose Gomez-Dans) Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 15:15:13 +0000 Subject: incorrect time In-Reply-To: References: <518CFD69.4090909@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: Hi, On 10 May 2013 15:01, James Cain wrote: > Had the same problem - this fixed it for me. > Also fixed it for me. Just issue: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata and choose your timezone J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They all revertd back to UTC. > > > errol at errol-linux:~$ date -u > Fri May 10 15:49:03 UTC 2013 > errol at errol-linux:~$ ntpdate -q pool.ntp.org > server 212.199.182.150, stratum 2, offset -0.389331, delay 0.03946 > server 212.25.117.210, stratum 2, offset -0.391075, delay 0.03981 > 10 May 15:49:34 ntpdate[13833]: adjust time server 212.199.182.150 > offset -0.389331 sec > errol at errol-linux:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata > [sudo] password for errol: > > Current default time zone: 'Asia/Jerusalem' > Local time is now: Fri May 10 18:51:35 IDT 2013. > Universal Time is now: Fri May 10 15:51:35 UTC 2013. > > errol at errol-linux:~$ > > Any more ideas?? Your time/settings seem correct. Do you mean time displayed in, e.g., Digital Clock widget on KDE panel? Then right-click on it, ...Settings, Time Zones and checkmark your time zone. Sarunas Burdulis http://math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas From gldvorak at gmail.com Sat May 11 00:40:39 2013 From: gldvorak at gmail.com (George Dvorak) Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 00:40:39 +0000 Subject: incorrect time In-Reply-To: <518D1B2D.6060906@math.dartmouth.edu> References: <518CFD69.4090909@tzora.co.il> <518D191A.3040604@tzora.co.il> <518D1B2D.6060906@math.dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: Fixed my problem where my clock displayed UTC time no matter which time zone was selected. However, I still am unable to set the ntp clock. I get the message "*Unable to contact time server: Public Time Server (pool.ntp.org).*" On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Sarunas Burdulis < sarunas at math.dartmouth.edu> wrote: > On 05/10/2013 11:58 AM, Errol Sapir wrote: > > I have tried all ecomendations by Jose, James and Jose ut the change > > doesnt occur. The computer seems to be "stuck" in the UTC mode. Nothing > > I do changes the time even though the definitions are correct. Below are > > the results of the suggestios made to me but none of the times remained > > corrected. They all revertd back to UTC. > > > > > > errol at errol-linux:~$ date -u > > Fri May 10 15:49:03 UTC 2013 > > errol at errol-linux:~$ ntpdate -q pool.ntp.org > > server 212.199.182.150, stratum 2, offset -0.389331, delay 0.03946 > > server 212.25.117.210, stratum 2, offset -0.391075, delay 0.03981 > > 10 May 15:49:34 ntpdate[13833]: adjust time server 212.199.182.150 > > offset -0.389331 sec > > errol at errol-linux:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata > > [sudo] password for errol: > > > > Current default time zone: 'Asia/Jerusalem' > > Local time is now: Fri May 10 18:51:35 IDT 2013. > > Universal Time is now: Fri May 10 15:51:35 UTC 2013. > > > > errol at errol-linux:~$ > > > > Any more ideas?? > > Your time/settings seem correct. Do you mean time displayed in, e.g., > Digital Clock widget on KDE panel? Then right-click on it, ...Settings, > Time Zones and checkmark your time zone. > > Sarunas Burdulis > http://math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulmunro at linuxmail.org Sat May 11 00:52:05 2013 From: paulmunro at linuxmail.org (Paul Munro) Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 00:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Plasma Desktop Crashes In-Reply-To: 11597730.seIS6J9m6b@lark-latitude-d630 References: <423930679.1996855.1368106798098.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>, 11597730.seIS6J9m6b@lark-latitude-d630 Message-ID: <1576147129.4744409.1368233525656.JavaMail.tomcat6@ibriss05.dlan.cinetic.de> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Sat May 11 01:46:03 2013 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 21:46:03 -0400 Subject: incorrect time In-Reply-To: References: <518CFD69.4090909@tzora.co.il> <518D1B2D.6060906@math.dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <201305102146.03737.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Friday 10 May 2013 21:41:09 George Dvorak did opine: > Fixed my problem where my clock displayed UTC time no matter which time > zone was selected. > > However, I still am unable to set the ntp clock. I get the message > "*Unable to contact time server: Public Time Server (pool.ntp.org).*" gene at coyote:/$ ping pool.ntp.org PING pool.ntp.org (204.2.134.162) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from paladin.latt.net (204.2.134.162): icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=111 ms 64 bytes from paladin.latt.net (204.2.134.162): icmp_seq=2 ttl=46 time=101 ms 64 bytes from paladin.latt.net (204.2.134.162): icmp_seq=3 ttl=46 time=100 ms You would hazard a guess that you have a bad dns lookup. And please note that pool.ntp.org is a round robin server so you will probably get many different addresses if you repeat the ping. Experimentally, I have found them all to be within 50ms of each other, so any errors are moot unless you are aiming the Keck Telescope by them. > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Sarunas Burdulis < > > sarunas at math.dartmouth.edu> wrote: > > On 05/10/2013 11:58 AM, Errol Sapir wrote: > > > I have tried all ecomendations by Jose, James and Jose ut the change > > > doesnt occur. The computer seems to be "stuck" in the UTC mode. > > > Nothing I do changes the time even though the definitions are > > > correct. Below are the results of the suggestios made to me but > > > none of the times remained corrected. They all revertd back to UTC. > > > > > > > > > errol at errol-linux:~$ date -u > > > Fri May 10 15:49:03 UTC 2013 > > > errol at errol-linux:~$ ntpdate -q pool.ntp.org > > > server 212.199.182.150, stratum 2, offset -0.389331, delay 0.03946 > > > server 212.25.117.210, stratum 2, offset -0.391075, delay 0.03981 > > > 10 May 15:49:34 ntpdate[13833]: adjust time server 212.199.182.150 > > > offset -0.389331 sec > > > errol at errol-linux:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata > > > [sudo] password for errol: > > > > > > Current default time zone: 'Asia/Jerusalem' > > > Local time is now: Fri May 10 18:51:35 IDT 2013. > > > Universal Time is now: Fri May 10 15:51:35 UTC 2013. > > > > > > errol at errol-linux:~$ > > > > > > Any more ideas?? > > > > Your time/settings seem correct. Do you mean time displayed in, e.g., > > Digital Clock widget on KDE panel? Then right-click on it, > > ...Settings, Time Zones and checkmark your time zone. > > > > Sarunas Burdulis > > http://math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: is up! My views I'm not a real movie star -- I've still got the same wife I started out with twenty-eight years ago. -- Will Rogers A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat May 11 04:57:17 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 06:57:17 +0200 Subject: incorrect time In-Reply-To: References: <518CFD69.4090909@tzora.co.il> <518D191A.3040604@tzora.co.il> <518D1B2D.6060906@math.dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <518DCFAD.6050603@gmail.com> On 11/05/2013 02:40, George Dvorak wrote: > Fixed my problem where my clock displayed UTC time no matter which time > zone was selected. > > However, I still am unable to set the ntp clock. I get the message > "*Unable to contact time server: Public Time Server (pool.ntp.org > ).*" > > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Sarunas Burdulis > > wrote: > > On 05/10/2013 11:58 AM, Errol Sapir wrote: > > I have tried all ecomendations by Jose, James and Jose ut the change > > doesnt occur. The computer seems to be "stuck" in the UTC mode. > Nothing > > I do changes the time even though the definitions are correct. > Below are > > the results of the suggestios made to me but none of the times > remained > > corrected. They all revertd back to UTC. > > > > > > errol at errol-linux:~$ date -u > > Fri May 10 15:49:03 UTC 2013 > > errol at errol-linux:~$ ntpdate -q pool.ntp.org > > server 212.199.182.150, stratum 2, offset -0.389331, delay 0.03946 > > server 212.25.117.210, stratum 2, offset -0.391075, delay 0.03981 > > 10 May 15:49:34 ntpdate[13833]: adjust time server 212.199.182.150 > > offset -0.389331 sec > > errol at errol-linux:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata > > [sudo] password for errol: > > > > Current default time zone: 'Asia/Jerusalem' > > Local time is now: Fri May 10 18:51:35 IDT 2013. > > Universal Time is now: Fri May 10 15:51:35 UTC 2013. > > > > errol at errol-linux:~$ > > > > Any more ideas?? > > Your time/settings seem correct. Do you mean time displayed in, e.g., > Digital Clock widget on KDE panel? Then right-click on it, ...Settings, > Time Zones and checkmark your time zone. > I think there is a known problem with the plasma time setting widget, I can also not set to to lookup from ntp - but the system DO use ntp (it is one of the first things that happen when I go online, I use a network monitor so I can see that). I would not at this stage worry too much, I think the bug is known but far down on the list of things to fix. From errol at tzora.co.il Sat May 11 07:56:47 2013 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 10:56:47 +0300 Subject: incorrect time(solved) In-Reply-To: References: <518CFD69.4090909@tzora.co.il> <518D191A.3040604@tzora.co.il> <518D1B2D.6060906@math.dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <518DF9BF.5010805@tzora.co.il> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat May 11 10:48:32 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 12:48:32 +0200 Subject: strange boot problem Message-ID: <518E2200.30809@gmail.com> Friends, being on Kubuntu 12.04 I have for some time now experienced a strange problem I can not solve and searching has not given me any hints on. When I choose "recovery boot" option the boot will start, then the screen goes blank and - nothing. I suspect I am missing the "menu" that normally would come up but can not find any info on package, how to activate or what. Screen brightness is not the problem. Hope someone can help as I want the option, though rarely needed. Kind regards Sinclair From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 11 13:18:37 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 15:18:37 +0200 Subject: strange boot problem In-Reply-To: <518E2200.30809@gmail.com> References: <518E2200.30809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1924322.srgAX4myGy@p5915> O. Sinclair wrote: > being on Kubuntu 12.04 I have for some time now experienced a strange > problem I can not solve and searching has not given me any hints on. > > When I choose "recovery boot" option the boot will start, then the > screen goes blank and - nothing. > > I suspect I am missing the "menu" that normally would come up but can > not find any info on package, how to activate or what. The menu comes from the package "friendly-recovery" but it is probably installed. Otherwise you would simply end up with a root shell but not a black screen. I suppose you have a problem with the graphic mode selected. Otherwise you should see lots of kernel messages during the boot process. You could edit the grub command line for the recovery mode and you could add the option "nomodeset" to the kernel command line (e.g. after the "ro"). Furthermore make sure that there is no option "splash". Nils From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat May 11 20:43:56 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 22:43:56 +0200 Subject: strange boot problem In-Reply-To: <1924322.srgAX4myGy@p5915> References: <518E2200.30809@gmail.com> <1924322.srgAX4myGy@p5915> Message-ID: <518EAD8C.1080502@gmail.com> On 11/05/2013 15:18, Nils Kassube wrote: > O. Sinclair wrote: >> being on Kubuntu 12.04 I have for some time now experienced a strange >> problem I can not solve and searching has not given me any hints on. >> >> When I choose "recovery boot" option the boot will start, then the >> screen goes blank and - nothing. >> >> I suspect I am missing the "menu" that normally would come up but can >> not find any info on package, how to activate or what. > > The menu comes from the package "friendly-recovery" but it is probably > installed. Otherwise you would simply end up with a root shell but not a > black screen. > > I suppose you have a problem with the graphic mode selected. Otherwise > you should see lots of kernel messages during the boot process. You > could edit the grub command line for the recovery mode and you could add > the option "nomodeset" to the kernel command line (e.g. after the "ro"). > Furthermore make sure that there is no option "splash". > Thanks Nils, tried all of those and no luck. Even removed friendly-recovery to possibly get a root command login but no luck. Still just a blank screen. Weird cause this worked, have no idea how, what or when it changed. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun May 12 06:20:41 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 08:20:41 +0200 Subject: Blogilo and blogspot.com Message-ID: <518F34B9.30202@gmail.com> I have been using Blogilo on and off for years to publish blogposts on 2 blogs. One of them hosted at blogspot.com Since 12.04 or so a problem occurred with authentication - a workaround existed however. But since 12.10 no luck. You get a "regexp" error when trying to authenticate, no matter what. Anyone using Blogilo on 12.10 and found a way of using it with Blogspot.com? Seems like Blogilo is "abandonware" as nothing has been done about this known problem. Kind regards, Sinclair From phil_lor at bigpond.com Sun May 12 08:29:46 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 18:29:46 +1000 Subject: Muon crash Message-ID: <518F52FA.1040701@bigpond.com> Muon is crashing after a recent set of updates including Muon itself. Is this known problem? Also, I'd like to install Skype but apt-get fails with the follow error message: phil at Asus:~$ sudo apt-get install skype Reading package lists... Error! E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_main_i18n_Translation-en E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. Is there a work-around? -- Regards, Phil From myriam at kde.org Sun May 12 10:00:45 2013 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 12:00:45 +0200 Subject: Blogilo and blogspot.com In-Reply-To: <518F34B9.30202@gmail.com> References: <518F34B9.30202@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:20 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > I have been using Blogilo on and off for years to publish blogposts on 2 > blogs. One of them hosted at blogspot.com > > Since 12.04 or so a problem occurred with authentication - a workaround > existed however. But since 12.10 no luck. You get a "regexp" error when > trying to authenticate, no matter what. > > Anyone using Blogilo on 12.10 and found a way of using it with Blogspot.com? > Seems like Blogilo is "abandonware" as nothing has been done about this > known problem. It is not abandonned AFAIK. You might want to add more details to this bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298003 Since I don't use Blogspot I can't really help with that, but it works perfectly fine with Workdpress Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From phil_lor at bigpond.com Sun May 12 11:11:01 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 21:11:01 +1000 Subject: Skype under Kubunto 13.04 Message-ID: <518F78C5.1000709@bigpond.com> I solved the previous problem but now that I have Skype installed I cannot get past the log-in screen. The error message is: "Disk I/O error" Any suggestions? -- Regards, Phil From phil_lor at bigpond.com Sun May 12 11:32:20 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 21:32:20 +1000 Subject: Skype under Kubunto 13.04 - solved In-Reply-To: <518F78C5.1000709@bigpond.com> References: <518F78C5.1000709@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <518F7DC4.6030509@bigpond.com> On 12/05/13 21:11, Phil wrote: > I solved the previous problem but now that I have Skype installed I > cannot get past the log-in screen. The error message is: > > "Disk I/O error" > > Any suggestions? Another common problem and solved. -- Regards, Phil From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Sun May 12 12:59:02 2013 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 19:59:02 +0700 Subject: Muon crash In-Reply-To: <518F52FA.1040701@bigpond.com> References: <518F52FA.1040701@bigpond.com> Message-ID: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Phil wrote: > phil at Asus:~$ sudo apt-get install skype > Reading package lists... Error! > E: Encountered a section with no Package: header > E: Problem with MergeList > /var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_main_i18n_Translation-en > E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install skype DK From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun May 12 13:00:33 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 15:00:33 +0200 Subject: Blogilo and blogspot.com In-Reply-To: References: <518F34B9.30202@gmail.com> Message-ID: <518F9271.90505@gmail.com> On 12/05/2013 12:00, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:20 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> I have been using Blogilo on and off for years to publish blogposts on 2 >> blogs. One of them hosted at blogspot.com >> >> Since 12.04 or so a problem occurred with authentication - a workaround >> existed however. But since 12.10 no luck. You get a "regexp" error when >> trying to authenticate, no matter what. >> >> Anyone using Blogilo on 12.10 and found a way of using it with Blogspot.com? >> Seems like Blogilo is "abandonware" as nothing has been done about this >> known problem. > > > It is not abandonned AFAIK. You might want to add more details to this > bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298003 > > Since I don't use Blogspot I can't really help with that, but it works > perfectly fine with Workdpress > > > Regards, Myriam > in all honesty - what is there to add? The bug is known since quite some time, blogspot is well known. The bug is confirmed and nothing has been done about it. From james.cain.25 at gmail.com Sun May 12 15:14:53 2013 From: james.cain.25 at gmail.com (James Cain) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 11:14:53 -0400 Subject: Blogilo and blogspot.com In-Reply-To: <518F9271.90505@gmail.com> References: <518F34B9.30202@gmail.com> <518F9271.90505@gmail.com> Message-ID: No sure if entirely relevant to this question, but Blogilo is apparently not dead. You may want to read the blog post linked here and possibly contact the author. Maybe he can help. http://www.aegiap.eu/kdeblog/2013/05/news-in-kdepim-4-11-blogilo/ - James C On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:00 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > in all honesty - what is there to add? The bug is known since quite some > time, blogspot is well known. The bug is confirmed and nothing has been > done about it. -- James Cain -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phb at hbsys.plus.com Sun May 12 17:19:00 2013 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 18:19:00 +0100 Subject: Synaptic In-Reply-To: References: <518AA7DA.9060008@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: <518FCF04.2090202@hbsys.plus.com> On 08/05/13 20:46, Scott Kitterman wrote: > No one in Kubuntu had anything to do with synaptic. No conspiracy here. > > Scott K > Scott, I've compared synaptic on one installation - the upgraded version - against the freshly installed one and the binaries are identical. I could really use some help in locating the cause of the different user interface that makes the fresh install fairly useless for me. Thanks in anticipation. Peter HB From myriam at kde.org Sun May 12 17:38:37 2013 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 19:38:37 +0200 Subject: Synaptic In-Reply-To: <518FCF04.2090202@hbsys.plus.com> References: <518AA7DA.9060008@hbsys.plus.com> <518FCF04.2090202@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > On 08/05/13 20:46, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> >> No one in Kubuntu had anything to do with synaptic. No conspiracy here. >> >> Scott K >> > Scott, > > I've compared synaptic on one installation - the upgraded version - against > the freshly installed one and the binaries are identical. I could really use > some help in locating the cause of the different user interface that makes > the fresh install fairly useless for me. Did you check the dependencies of these two packages? Might be the other one was packaged with something missing that caused the difference. Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sun May 12 19:17:41 2013 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 15:17:41 -0400 Subject: Synaptic In-Reply-To: References: <518AA7DA.9060008@hbsys.plus.com> <518FCF04.2090202@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: <7ccb345c-7ef5-48e4-b987-5d021441f4a1@email.android.com> Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook > wrote: >> On 08/05/13 20:46, Scott Kitterman wrote: >>> >>> No one in Kubuntu had anything to do with synaptic. No conspiracy >here. >>> >>> Scott K >>> >> Scott, >> >> I've compared synaptic on one installation - the upgraded version - >against >> the freshly installed one and the binaries are identical. I could >really use >> some help in locating the cause of the different user interface that >makes >> the fresh install fairly useless for me. > >Did you check the dependencies of these two packages? Might be the >other one was packaged with something missing that caused the >difference. That or configuration file differences in the user's config. Since synaptic isn't part of Kubuntu, you might have more luck on an Ubuntu list. Scott K From phb at hbsys.plus.com Sun May 12 21:25:21 2013 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 22:25:21 +0100 Subject: Synaptic In-Reply-To: <7ccb345c-7ef5-48e4-b987-5d021441f4a1@email.android.com> References: <518AA7DA.9060008@hbsys.plus.com> <518FCF04.2090202@hbsys.plus.com> <7ccb345c-7ef5-48e4-b987-5d021441f4a1@email.android.com> Message-ID: <519008C1.1040304@hbsys.plus.com> On 12/05/13 20:17, Scott Kitterman wrote: > Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > >> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook >> wrote: >>> On 08/05/13 20:46, Scott Kitterman wrote: >>>> >>>> No one in Kubuntu had anything to do with synaptic. No conspiracy >> here. >>>> >>>> Scott K >>>> >>> Scott, >>> >>> I've compared synaptic on one installation - the upgraded version - >> against >>> the freshly installed one and the binaries are identical. I could >> really use >>> some help in locating the cause of the different user interface that >> makes >>> the fresh install fairly useless for me. >> >> Did you check the dependencies of these two packages? Might be the >> other one was packaged with something missing that caused the >> difference. > > That or configuration file differences in the user's config. > > Since synaptic isn't part of Kubuntu, you might have more luck on an Ubuntu list. I also have an Ubuntu disk running 13.04 on the same machine: Synaptic is just fine, so the problem is somehow related to my fresh Kubuntu installation, although I hear and believe what you say about Kubuntu not packaging Synaptic. I'd like to better understand why Myriam thinks it might be a packaging problem? The user interface is completely different and I can't believe that it isn't the result of a design decision somewhere. Would your patience extend to looking at a screenshot of the "new" interface in case it triggers a memory? Peter HB From charles.clay.weber at gmail.com Sun May 12 22:54:43 2013 From: charles.clay.weber at gmail.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 18:54:43 -0400 Subject: Synaptic Message-ID: On Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:25:21 PM Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > On 12/05/13 20:17, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > >> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook > >> > >> wrote: > >>> On 08/05/13 20:46, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >>>> No one in Kubuntu had anything to do with synaptic. No conspiracy > >> > >> here. > >> > >>>> Scott K > >>> > >>> Scott, > >>> > >>> I've compared synaptic on one installation - the upgraded version - > >> > >> against > >> > >>> the freshly installed one and the binaries are identical. I could > >> > >> really use > >> > >>> some help in locating the cause of the different user interface that > >> > >> makes > >> > >>> the fresh install fairly useless for me. > >> > >> Did you check the dependencies of these two packages? Might be the > >> other one was packaged with something missing that caused the > >> difference. > > > > That or configuration file differences in the user's config. > > > > Since synaptic isn't part of Kubuntu, you might have more luck on an > > Ubuntu list. > I also have an Ubuntu disk running 13.04 on the same machine: Synaptic > is just fine, so the problem is somehow related to my fresh Kubuntu > installation, although I hear and believe what you say about Kubuntu not > packaging Synaptic. > > I'd like to better understand why Myriam thinks it might be a packaging > problem? The user interface is completely different and I can't believe > that it isn't the result of a design decision somewhere. Would your > patience extend to looking at a screenshot of the "new" interface in > case it triggers a memory? > > Peter HB Synaptic , like Muon, uses an external application to manage sources. In Kubuntu, it is called software-properties-kde, and for synaptic, Unity, Gnome and other gtk-based desktops it is *software-properties-gtk*. It could be that this is missing, perhaps. I tested installing synaptic on my system: it does NOT pull in software-properties-gtk, so checking the deps as Myriam suggested was a valid idea. if you install the missing package, you should be fine there. $ sudo apt-get install synaptic Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libcairo-perl libept1.4.12 libglib-perl libgtk2-perl libpango-perl librarian0 libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common rarian-compat Suggested packages: libfont-freetype-perl libgtk2-perl-doc dwww deborphan tasksel **software-properties-gtk** The following NEW packages will be installed: libcairo-perl libept1.4.12 libglib-perl libgtk2-perl libpango-perl librarian0 libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common rarian-compat synaptic 0 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 4,671 kB of archives. My guess is that software-properties-gtk is already a dependency somewhere else in Unity/Xubuntu/Lubuntu/etc. It could be considered a packaging bug, as it should be a dependency on the package manager so that it is installed along with that no matter what sort of *buntu system is used, especially if it was doing so in previous versions. However, it seems that moving software- properties-gtk to "suggests" was done on purpose(1) but with no reason I can quickly discover. This should be reported as a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/1179310 (1) http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/s/synaptic/synaptic_0.80~exp2/changelog -- Clay Weber (claydoh) http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phil_lor at bigpond.com Mon May 13 02:59:02 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 12:59:02 +1000 Subject: Muon crash In-Reply-To: References: <518F52FA.1040701@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <519056F6.40301@bigpond.com> On 12/05/13 22:59, David Kuntadi wrote: > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Phil wrote: > >> phil at Asus:~$ sudo apt-get install skype >> Reading package lists... Error! >> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header >> E: Problem with MergeList >> /var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_main_i18n_Translation-en >> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. > > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get install skype > Thanks David, I suppose I should have replied to the list with the solution, apparently it's a common problem. rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/* rm /var/lib/dpkg/status touch /var/lib/dpkg/status apt-get update -- Regards, Phil From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon May 13 06:04:56 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 08:04:56 +0200 Subject: Blogilo and blogspot.com In-Reply-To: References: <518F34B9.30202@gmail.com> <518F9271.90505@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51908288.9030001@gmail.com> On 12/05/2013 17:14, James Cain wrote: > No sure if entirely relevant to this question, but Blogilo is apparently > not dead. You may want to read the blog post linked here and possibly > contact the author. Maybe he can help. > > http://www.aegiap.eu/kdeblog/2013/05/news-in-kdepim-4-11-blogilo/ > > - James C > > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:00 AM, O. Sinclair > wrote: > > in all honesty - what is there to add? The bug is known since quite > some time, blogspot is well known. The bug is confirmed and nothing > has been done about it. > you are correct, thanks for pointing it out to me. The bug has been pointed out to the author already. So I hope I can get my hands on this version "soon". kind regards, Sinclair From phb at hbsys.plus.com Mon May 13 11:27:35 2013 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 12:27:35 +0100 Subject: Synaptic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5190CE27.3030802@hbsys.plus.com> On 12/05/13 23:54, Clay Weber wrote: [cut] > Synaptic , like Muon, uses an external application to manage sources. > In Kubuntu, it is called software-properties-kde, and for synaptic, > Unity, Gnome and other gtk-based desktops it is > *software-properties-gtk*. It could be that this is missing, perhaps. > I tested installing synaptic on my system: it does NOT pull in > software-properties-gtk, so checking the deps as Myriam suggested was > a valid idea. if you install the missing package, you should be fine > there. > > $ sudo apt-get install synaptic Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The > following extra packages will be installed: libcairo-perl > libept1.4.12 libglib-perl libgtk2-perl libpango-perl librarian0 > libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common rarian-compat Suggested packages: > libfont-freetype-perl libgtk2-perl-doc dwww deborphan tasksel > **software-properties-gtk** The following NEW packages will be > installed: libcairo-perl libept1.4.12 libglib-perl libgtk2-perl > libpango-perl librarian0 libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common > rarian-compat synaptic 0 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove > and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 4,671 kB of archives. > > My guess is that software-properties-gtk is already a dependency > somewhere else in Unity/Xubuntu/Lubuntu/etc. It could be considered > a packaging bug, as it should be a dependency on the package manager > so that it is installed along with that no matter what sort of *buntu > system is used, especially if it was doing so in previous versions. > However, it seems that moving software- properties-gtk to "suggests" > was done on purpose(1) but with no reason I can quickly discover. > > This should be reported as a bug: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/1179310 > > > (1) > http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/s/synaptic/synaptic_0.80~exp2/changelog > > > > -- Clay Weber (claydoh) http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com That did the trick! Very many thanks to all for your help and thanks also for filing the bug. Peter HB From ubuntu at kitterman.com Mon May 13 17:19:30 2013 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 13:19:30 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2013 - Ballots Issued, Voting Open In-Reply-To: <4073421.TdVpKWZ9qp@scott-latitude-e6320> References: <2092773.D8GstSbEnq@scott-latitude-e6320> <2583121.UD5kDCBj27@scott-latitude-e6320> <4073421.TdVpKWZ9qp@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: <2334440.rLim3uoPr3@scott-latitude-e6320> On Friday, May 03, 2013 09:16:10 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > CIVS has emailed out ballots to all Kubuntu members with public email > addresses in Launchpad. If you didn't get a ballot, check your spam folder > and if you don't find it, contact me. No one contacted me, so I'm assuming everyone got a ballot. As a reminder, the polls close on May 20, so one week left. There's no penalty for not waiting until the last minute, so get those ballots in ... Scott K From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Wed May 15 18:01:12 2013 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 20:01:12 +0200 Subject: kubuntu cdimage Message-ID: <000901ce5196$2f915140$8eb3f3c0$@vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Hi, I'm thinking of installing Kubuntu om my hp probook. I've noticed that the live image is updated every now and then. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/ Is this the version we need to install? Was the 13.04 version on the release date not ready and do we need to wait for the moment? What is currently changing? Thanks for the support. Grtz, Karl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Was the 13.04 version on the > release date not ready and do we need to wait for the moment?**** > > What is currently changing?**** > > ** ** > > Thanks for the support.**** > > ** ** > > Grtz, Karl**** > > ** ** > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 15 18:58:02 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 20:58:02 +0200 Subject: kubuntu cdimage Message-ID: <68441053.D2sAANtH4i@p5915> Karl wrote: > I'm thinking of installing Kubuntu om my hp probook. > > I've noticed that the live image is updated every now and then. > > > Is this the version we need to install? Was the 13.04 version on the > release date not ready and do we need to wait for the moment? The 13.04 version seems to be the last development version before release date. The newer versions are for 13.10 and they are surely not yet recommended for general use. I would suggest to install 13.04 from here: Nils From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu May 16 20:41:33 2013 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 20:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Rogue process?? In-Reply-To: <1104406218.2300730.1368736406361.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1493686283.2301088.1368736893749.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I did apt-get update this morning on a Raring system and found kernel updates for 3.8.0-21. After issuing apt-get upgrade, I got a bunch of errors, all of which end with "No space left on device". I installed the system on an 11Gb partition (with /home on a separate partition) and it initially took up about 5.5Gb. When I investigated the above error, / was 100% full with no available space. Further investigation showed that only all the directories added up to ~5.5Gb of files with the exception of /proc which is shown as 1.8Tb. Most of the sub-directies are 0 size despite having files and subdirectories. Most important is the kcore file, listed as 1.8Tb. I've been using linux systems for many years and have never seen something like this and it's choking my primary machine. Help!!! Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu May 16 20:43:59 2013 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 20:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Rogue process?? In-Reply-To: <1493686283.2301088.1368736893749.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1037488950.2301245.1368737039118.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Forgot to mention that the system load is low with only about 2Gb of 4Gb RAM in use and very little CPU load. P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Kaplan" To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:41:33 PM Subject: Rogue process?? I did apt-get update this morning on a Raring system and found kernel updates for 3.8.0-21. After issuing apt-get upgrade, I got a bunch of errors, all of which end with "No space left on device". I installed the system on an 11Gb partition (with /home on a separate partition) and it initially took up about 5.5Gb. When I investigated the above error, / was 100% full with no available space. Further investigation showed that only all the directories added up to ~5.5Gb of files with the exception of /proc which is shown as 1.8Tb. Most of the sub-directies are 0 size despite having files and subdirectories. Most important is the kcore file, listed as 1.8Tb. I've been using linux systems for many years and have never seen something like this and it's choking my primary machine. Help!!! Paul -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clay at claydoh.com Thu May 16 23:51:16 2013 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 19:51:16 -0400 Subject: Rogue process?? In-Reply-To: <1493686283.2301088.1368736893749.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1493686283.2301088.1368736893749.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <6006131.fhXzftB0Mk@lark-latitude-d630> On Thursday, May 16, 2013 08:41:33 PM Paul Kaplan wrote: > I did apt-get update this morning on a Raring system and found kernel > updates for 3.8.0-21. After issuing apt-get upgrade, I got a bunch of > errors, all of which end with "No space left on device". > > > I installed the system on an 11Gb partition (with /home on a separate > partition) and it initially took up about 5.5Gb. When I investigated the > above error, / was 100% full with no available space. Further investigation > showed that only all the directories added up to ~5.5Gb of files with the > exception of /proc which is shown as 1.8Tb. Most of the sub-directies are 0 > size despite having files and subdirectories. Most important is the kcore > file, listed as 1.8Tb. > > > I've been using linux systems for many years and have never seen something > like this and it's choking my primary machine. > > > Help!!! > > > Paul What is the out put of the command "df -h"?. or rather what method are you using to determine drive space? Check your /tmp and perhaps /var/log - some logs can grow to be quite large sometimes if there are crashes, even unseen ones. The program filelight can help with a visual representation of what's using space on your drive. /proc is a virtual filesystem, so it is not really taking up any space. Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Fri May 17 00:14:10 2013 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 00:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Rogue process?? In-Reply-To: <6006131.fhXzftB0Mk@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <728306475.2307892.1368749650548.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Used df -h to report the results below. I cleared /tmp manually, but it fills back up (to 100M) on next login. /var/log is relatively small. I did notice that on another machine /proc/kcore is only about 1Gb whereas on the problem machine is nearly 2Tb. It may be faster to just reinstall. P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clay Weber" To: "Kubuntu user technical support" Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:51:16 PM Subject: Re: Rogue process?? On Thursday, May 16, 2013 08:41:33 PM Paul Kaplan wrote: > I did apt-get update this morning on a Raring system and found kernel > updates for 3.8.0-21. After issuing apt-get upgrade, I got a bunch of > errors, all of which end with "No space left on device". > > > I installed the system on an 11Gb partition (with /home on a separate > partition) and it initially took up about 5.5Gb. When I investigated the > above error, / was 100% full with no available space. Further investigation > showed that only all the directories added up to ~5.5Gb of files with the > exception of /proc which is shown as 1.8Tb. Most of the sub-directies are 0 > size despite having files and subdirectories. Most important is the kcore > file, listed as 1.8Tb. > > > I've been using linux systems for many years and have never seen something > like this and it's choking my primary machine. > > > Help!!! > > > Paul What is the out put of the command "df -h"?. or rather what method are you using to determine drive space? Check your /tmp and perhaps /var/log - some logs can grow to be quite large sometimes if there are crashes, even unseen ones. The program filelight can help with a visual representation of what's using space on your drive. /proc is a virtual filesystem, so it is not really taking up any space. Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <728306475.2307892.1368749650548.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <728306475.2307892.1368749650548.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <39110010.aY1e4L0MMV@lark-latitude-d630> On Friday, May 17, 2013 12:14:10 AM Paul Kaplan wrote: > Used df -h to report the results below. > > > I cleared /tmp manually, but it fills back up (to 100M) on next login. > /var/log is relatively small. > > > I did notice that on another machine /proc/kcore is only about 1Gb whereas > on the problem machine is nearly 2Tb. > > > It may be faster to just reinstall. > P > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clay Weber" > To: "Kubuntu user technical support" > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:51:16 PM > Subject: Re: Rogue process?? > > On Thursday, May 16, 2013 08:41:33 PM Paul Kaplan wrote: > > I did apt-get update this morning on a Raring system and found kernel > > updates for 3.8.0-21. After issuing apt-get upgrade, I got a bunch of > > errors, all of which end with "No space left on device". > > > > > > I installed the system on an 11Gb partition (with /home on a separate > > partition) and it initially took up about 5.5Gb. When I investigated the > > above error, / was 100% full with no available space. Further > > investigation > > showed that only all the directories added up to ~5.5Gb of files with the > > exception of /proc which is shown as 1.8Tb. Most of the sub-directies are > > 0 > > size despite having files and subdirectories. Most important is the kcore > > file, listed as 1.8Tb. > > > > > > I've been using linux systems for many years and have never seen something > > like this and it's choking my primary machine. > > > > > > Help!!! > > > > > > Paul > > What is the out put of the command "df -h"?. or rather what method are you > using to determine drive space? > > Check your /tmp and perhaps /var/log - some logs can grow to be quite large > sometimes if there are crashes, even unseen ones. The program filelight can > help with a visual representation of what's using space on your drive. > > /proc is a virtual filesystem, so it is not really taking up any space. > > > > Clay Weber > http://kubuntuforums.net > http://claydoh.com As I said, /proc is *virtual*, not using *any actual disk space*. My kcore is 128 *TB*, which is obviously not happening on my aging laptop :D. Read up on the /proc system, and do look for actual physical places for space to be used up. You said that you investigated further and that the total added space used is 5.5gb, so one number must be wrong. I'd lean toward the df output being the correct one, and that discovering where it is being used with filelight or a similar tool will likely be much faster than a reinstall. -- Clay Weber (claydoh) http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com From kassube at gmx.net Fri May 17 04:30:34 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 06:30:34 +0200 Subject: Rogue process?? In-Reply-To: <1493686283.2301088.1368736893749.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1493686283.2301088.1368736893749.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <3085383.EPLYfuXIYy@p5915> Paul Kaplan wrote: > I did apt-get update this morning on a Raring system and found kernel > updates for 3.8.0-21. After issuing apt-get upgrade, I got a bunch of > errors, all of which end with "No space left on device". > > > I installed the system on an 11Gb partition (with /home on a separate > partition) and it initially took up about 5.5Gb. When I investigated > the above error, / was 100% full with no available space. Further > investigation showed that only all the directories added up to ~5.5Gb > of files With a separate /home you could have written something to the mount point before the separate /home partition was mounted. Therefore I would suggest to (temporarily) umount /home and check the use of that directory without the separate partition mounted. Nils From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sat May 18 19:16:16 2013 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 15:16:16 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2013 - Ballots Issued, Voting Open In-Reply-To: <2334440.rLim3uoPr3@scott-latitude-e6320> References: <2092773.D8GstSbEnq@scott-latitude-e6320> <4073421.TdVpKWZ9qp@scott-latitude-e6320> <2334440.rLim3uoPr3@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: <1981977.R49ViMsdRs@scott-latitude-e6320> On Monday, May 13, 2013 01:19:30 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Friday, May 03, 2013 09:16:10 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > > CIVS has emailed out ballots to all Kubuntu members with public email > > addresses in Launchpad. If you didn't get a ballot, check your spam > > folder > > and if you don't find it, contact me. > > No one contacted me, so I'm assuming everyone got a ballot. > As a reminder, the polls close on May 20, so two days left. There's no penalty for not waiting until the last minute, so get those ballots in ... Scott K From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Mon May 20 12:08:40 2013 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:08:40 +0200 Subject: kubuntu cd image Message-ID: <001501ce5552$c4457a90$4cd06fb0$@vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Hi, I'm thinking of installing Kubuntu om my hp probook. I've noticed that the live image is updated every now and then. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/ Is this the version we need to install? Was the 13.04 version on the release date not ready and do we need to wait for the moment? What is currently changing? Thanks for the support. Grtz, Karl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Was the 13.04 version on the >release date not ready and do we need to wait for the moment? > >What is currently changing? > > > >Thanks for the support. > > > >Grtz, Karl > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Clay Weber (claydoh) Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Mon May 20 14:59:39 2013 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey (grokit)) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 10:59:39 -0400 Subject: kubuntu cd image Message-ID: <1974816.MSv0uEDdv9@kirk> You probably do not want that version. The daily live version is for testing since new code is put in there daily. Things can break. You want to go here [http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download] if you want the latest release. -- Alan On Monday, May 20, 2013 2:08:40 PM Karl wrote: Hi, I’m thinking of installing Kubuntu om my hp probook. I’ve noticed that the live image is updated every now and then… http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/ Is this the version we need to install? Was the 13.04 version on the release date not ready and do we need to wait for the moment? What is currently changing? Thanks for the support. Grtz, Karl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zender at uci.edu Mon May 20 20:12:35 2013 From: zender at uci.edu (Charlie Zender) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 13:12:35 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu 13.04 screen goes black Message-ID: <519A83B3.7020603@uci.edu> Bonjour, I upgraded my Dell Inspiron 6500 from Kubuntu 12.10 to 13.04. Then things "went south". The worst remaining problem is that the desktop display breaks after kdm login: the login itself works fine but then the screen turns _completely black_ during desktop setup. X and all related processes appear to keep running: the process table contains them and I hear the sounds the Plasma desktop makes as it starts running. But I cannot see any of it because it is all black. Any idea how to fix this or where to look for clues as to what is malfunctioning? Thanks, Charlie -- Charlie Zender, Earth System Sci. & Computer Sci. University of California, Irvine 949-891-2429 )'( From ubuntu at kitterman.com Tue May 21 00:23:55 2013 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 20:23:55 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2013 - Results In-Reply-To: <1981977.R49ViMsdRs@scott-latitude-e6320> References: <2092773.D8GstSbEnq@scott-latitude-e6320> <2334440.rLim3uoPr3@scott-latitude-e6320> <1981977.R49ViMsdRs@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: <1917593.p8MXpDu7o4@scott-latitude-e6320> And the winners are: Philip Muskovac (yofel) Rohan Garg (shadeslayer) Valorie Zimmerman (valorie) Full results here: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_31619806caaf95b5 Congratulations to the winners and thanks to everyone that ran. Scott K From juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com Tue May 21 02:48:02 2013 From: juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com (Juan R. de Silva) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 02:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: OT: looking for advise on laptop upgrade Message-ID: I have Dell Latitude D820 laptop with Dual Core 1.8GHz CPU and 1GB of RAM. The laptop is slightly over 6 years old. Until recent I was satisfied with it. However with advent of new technologies it started performing poorly with DEs like KDE4 or Unity. Since I do not consider switching to neither Xfce nor LXDE, the only choice I have is either to upgrade RAM up to 4GB, which would cost me with taxes around $80-90, or to buy a new laptop. However I'm not sure on 2 things: 1. Would such RAM upgrade actually give me real significant burst in performance? 2. This one is a tough one :-). 6 years old laptop could actually die at any time leaving me with 2 not need memory sticks and lost $90. So, I'm trying to make up my mind, whether to upgrade RAM or to forget about it and to save $80-90 rather adding them to buying a new laptop. Would somebody give me an advise on the subject and/or share his/her related experience, please? At least on the first item:-). From ubuntu at kitterman.com Tue May 21 03:03:03 2013 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:03:03 -0400 Subject: OT: looking for advise on laptop upgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9191400.Aa688n4rP0@scott-latitude-e6320> On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 02:48:02 AM Juan R. de Silva wrote: > I have Dell Latitude D820 laptop with Dual Core 1.8GHz CPU and 1GB of > RAM. The laptop is slightly over 6 years old. > > Until recent I was satisfied with it. However with advent of new > technologies it started performing poorly with DEs like KDE4 or Unity. > Since I do not consider switching to neither Xfce nor LXDE, the only > choice I have is either to upgrade RAM up to 4GB, which would cost me > with taxes around $80-90, or to buy a new laptop. > > However I'm not sure on 2 things: > > 1. Would such RAM upgrade actually give me real significant burst in > performance? > > 2. This one is a tough one :-). 6 years old laptop could actually die at > any time leaving me with 2 not need memory sticks and lost $90. > > So, I'm trying to make up my mind, whether to upgrade RAM or to forget > about it and to save $80-90 rather adding them to buying a new laptop. > > Would somebody give me an advise on the subject and/or share his/her > related experience, please? At least on the first item:-). 1GB is not enough to run KDE (or any other modern DE) with more than an application window or two open without getting significant slow downs due to having to swap RAM out to disk. Increase the memory and you will notice the difference, particularly in your ability to have multiple application windows open at the same time. It probably won't be much faster though than it is now with one or two application windows open. You'll have to judge how much that matters to you. Scott K From clay at claydoh.com Tue May 21 03:32:28 2013 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:32:28 -0400 Subject: OT: looking for advise on laptop upgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5352272.VstKabER88@lark-latitude-d630> On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 02:48:02 AM Juan R. de Silva wrote: > I have Dell Latitude D820 laptop with Dual Core 1.8GHz CPU and 1GB of > RAM. The laptop is slightly over 6 years old. > I am using a Dell D630 with similar specs and age, originally with 2gb ram, but a 2.0 dual core cpu, and intel integrated graphics. My cpu has a slightly faster bus speed and more l2 cache. It originally had a 1.8ghz cpu, but I replaced the motherboard and in the process got the 2.0 . > Until recent I was satisfied with it. However with advent of new > technologies it started performing poorly with DEs like KDE4 or Unity. > Since I do not consider switching to neither Xfce nor LXDE, the only > choice I have is either to upgrade RAM up to 4GB, which would cost me > with taxes around $80-90, or to buy a new laptop. > > However I'm not sure on 2 things: > > 1. Would such RAM upgrade actually give me real significant burst in > performance? Yes, a very noticeable effect. 1gb is pushing it, 2gb makes it quite manageable.I upped my ram to 4 gb(for about 40 dollars, from amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000T8WN8U/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i 00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 The price has gone up a little. Not 100 percent sure if this will work in your laptop, iirc the PC5300 ram is downward compatible with PC3200. It works well in mine :) Also not sure if the price is similar for your location. > > 2. This one is a tough one :-). 6 years old laptop could actually die at > any time leaving me with 2 not need memory sticks and lost $90. > > So, I'm trying to make up my mind, whether to upgrade RAM or to forget > about it and to save $80-90 rather adding them to buying a new laptop. I don't have much money myself; I have been successful with replacing parts on my Dell as needed, less than 50 or so per repair or upgrade over the past 2.5 years I've had this. One caveat I discovered is hard drive speed. My d630 had a slow 5300 rpm drive, which I believe (in my case) was the choke point as there seems to be more disk i/o in recent KDE versions, a quickness to go to swap far too soon and often. The added ram reduced this quite a lot, but without tweaking the swappiness settings it was still happening. The swappiness settings may be something to check out as a stopgap with your current 1gb ram. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_ho w_do_I_change_it.3F What really fixed it for me was a closeout on ssd's at Staples this past Christmas - 60 dollars for a 64gb Kingston. I was looking for a new drive because I thought that my spinning drive was dieing. A larger spinning drive and the ssd were almost the same price, so I gambled on the small size. Boy is this thing effing *fast*. now, an ssd might not be the thing that works for you, but if you have access to a faster spinning drive (assuming you have a slow one) to try out, it might be something to consider. > > Would somebody give me an advise on the subject and/or share his/her > related experience, please? At least on the first item:-). Other things to consider , as you mention, is a less old system. Plus perhaps extra things a new(er) laptop might bring: more usb ports, dvi/hdmi instead of vga output, etc. I want so badly to have a newer laptop, or even a desktop, so I can get these things, but the time needed to save funds for it is just too long, and better put to more important things for me. You have to make the determination what is best for you. But even going to 2gb ram will make it more pleasant for sure! -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Tue May 21 11:03:48 2013 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 04:03:48 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2013 - Results In-Reply-To: <1917593.p8MXpDu7o4@scott-latitude-e6320> References: <2092773.D8GstSbEnq@scott-latitude-e6320> <2334440.rLim3uoPr3@scott-latitude-e6320> <1981977.R49ViMsdRs@scott-latitude-e6320> <1917593.p8MXpDu7o4@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > And the winners are: > > Philip Muskovac (yofel) > Rohan Garg (shadeslayer) > Valorie Zimmerman (valorie) > > Full results here: > > http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_31619806caaf95b5 > > Congratulations to the winners and thanks to everyone that ran. > > Scott K Thank you for voting, all who weighed in. I'd like to see more Kubuntu Members next election! People generally apply for membership when their friends encourage them to do so, so look around at your friends, everybody. Who among them should join our ranks as Kubuntu Members? Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From phb at hbsys.plus.com Tue May 21 14:29:54 2013 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 15:29:54 +0100 Subject: Signing key error in Synaptic Message-ID: <519B84E2.4000401@hbsys.plus.com> Can anyone advise me as to the origin of the following error message in Synaptic (and how to fix it)? W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net raring Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue May 21 14:50:13 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 16:50:13 +0200 Subject: 4.10.3 updates Message-ID: <519B89A5.8080308@gmail.com> Dear all, checking in backports ppa it seems packages are there for upgrading quantal to 4.10.3 but I can not remember having seen any official newsrelease on kubuntu.org, rssfeeds or here. Have I missed something or are not all packages there or what? Kind regards Sinclair From clay at claydoh.com Tue May 21 14:54:56 2013 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 10:54:56 -0400 Subject: Signing key error in Synaptic In-Reply-To: <519B84E2.4000401@hbsys.plus.com> References: <519B84E2.4000401@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: <2720761.QLC8cp39Du@lark-latitude-d630> On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 03:29:54 PM Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > Can anyone advise me as to the origin of the following error message in > Synaptic (and how to fix it)? > > W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net raring Release: The following > signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: > NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 Somehow the gpg signing key for one of the repositories did not get updated or was corrupted on your system. A quick web search gives a command line to re- import the key using the info in the error message: $ sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com From clay at claydoh.com Tue May 21 15:08:47 2013 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 11:08:47 -0400 Subject: 4.10.3 updates In-Reply-To: <519B89A5.8080308@gmail.com> References: <519B89A5.8080308@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2453480.p7gxc0gsxG@lark-latitude-d630> On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 04:50:13 PM O. Sinclair wrote: > Dear all, > > checking in backports ppa it seems packages are there for upgrading > quantal to 4.10.3 but I can not remember having seen any official > newsrelease on kubuntu.org, rssfeeds or here. > > Have I missed something or are not all packages there or what? > > Kind regards > Sinclair Probably not all packages are there yet. In the past, we have announced updates before they were all fully built in the ppa. However it is fully available for 13.04 as far as I can tell, but alas no announcement as of yet. looking at the ppa, there are definitely a number of packages not yet at 4.10.3 I had forgotten to add the kubuntu-updates ppa for Raring, grabbing 4.10.3 now :) -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com From juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com Tue May 21 21:03:39 2013 From: juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com (Juan R. de Silva) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 21:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: OT: looking for advise on laptop upgrade References: Message-ID: Thanks for your input guys. From henry.linux.1973 at gmail.com Tue May 21 22:21:24 2013 From: henry.linux.1973 at gmail.com (Henry Linux) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 19:21:24 -0300 Subject: Kubuntu 13.04 screen goes black In-Reply-To: <519A83B3.7020603@uci.edu> References: <519A83B3.7020603@uci.edu> Message-ID: 2013/5/20 Charlie Zender > Bonjour, > > I upgraded my Dell Inspiron 6500 from Kubuntu 12.10 to 13.04. > Then things "went south". > The worst remaining problem is that the desktop display > breaks after kdm login: the login itself works fine but then > the screen turns _completely black_ during desktop setup. > X and all related processes appear to keep running: the process > table contains them and I hear the sounds the Plasma desktop > makes as it starts running. But I cannot see any of it because > it is all black. > > Any idea how to fix this or where to look for clues as to what > is malfunctioning? > > you don't say which is your VideoCard (Nvidia or ATI) i got some issue with my PC with Kubuntu 13.04 and Noveau driver so I installed Official driver from nVIDIA and works perfect. Greetings Henry, From Argentina > Thanks, > Charlie > -- > Charlie Zender, Earth System Sci. & Computer Sci. > University of California, Irvine 949-891-2429 )'( > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ankhsdream at gmail.com Wed May 22 00:19:57 2013 From: ankhsdream at gmail.com (Doug B) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 20:19:57 -0400 Subject: OT: looking for advise on laptop upgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D18E7FA-BD65-44F6-B3D6-99281B194FD8@gmail.com> For the RAM if you had a motherboard that could support it you could buy two 4GB sticks around the same price, it's not a viable upgrade for a significantly older laptop, especially as the RAM might not be used to its full potential depending on your CPU, which is harder to upgrade. I buy broken laptops on eBay to fix and resell on Amazon, it's worth replacing the laptop in general rather than upgrading. Sent from my iPhone On May 20, 2013, at 10:48 PM, "Juan R. de Silva" wrote: > I have Dell Latitude D820 laptop with Dual Core 1.8GHz CPU and 1GB of > RAM. The laptop is slightly over 6 years old. > > Until recent I was satisfied with it. However with advent of new > technologies it started performing poorly with DEs like KDE4 or Unity. > Since I do not consider switching to neither Xfce nor LXDE, the only > choice I have is either to upgrade RAM up to 4GB, which would cost me > with taxes around $80-90, or to buy a new laptop. > > However I'm not sure on 2 things: > > 1. Would such RAM upgrade actually give me real significant burst in > performance? > > 2. This one is a tough one :-). 6 years old laptop could actually die at > any time leaving me with 2 not need memory sticks and lost $90. > > So, I'm trying to make up my mind, whether to upgrade RAM or to forget > about it and to save $80-90 rather adding them to buying a new laptop. > > Would somebody give me an advise on the subject and/or share his/her > related experience, please? At least on the first item:-). > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From stan10x10 at gmail.com Wed May 22 00:26:35 2013 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (Uriah Heep) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 20:26:35 -0400 Subject: OT: looking for advise on laptop upgrade In-Reply-To: <5352272.VstKabER88@lark-latitude-d630> References: <5352272.VstKabER88@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 02:48:02 AM Juan R. de Silva wrote: > I have Dell Latitude D820 laptop with Dual Core 1.8GHz CPU and 1GB of > RAM. The laptop is slightly over 6 years old. > I am using a Dell D630 with similar specs and age, originally with 2gb ram, but a 2.0 dual core cpu, and intel integrated graphics. My cpu has a slightly faster bus speed and more l2 cache. It originally had a 1.8ghz cpu, but I replaced the motherboard and in the process got the 2.0 . > Until recent I was satisfied with it. However with advent of new > technologies it started performing poorly with DEs like KDE4 or Unity. > Since I do not consider switching to neither Xfce nor LXDE, the only > choice I have is either to upgrade RAM up to 4GB, which would cost me > with taxes around $80-90, or to buy a new laptop. > > However I'm not sure on 2 things: > > 1. Would such RAM upgrade actually give me real significant burst in > performance? Not sure where you live or the prices there. I have seen entry level laptops with 4 gigs ram and usb3 for $250.these usually have windows 8 installed and are for webb browsing and simple office work but should be quicker under linux than windows. I used to have an extra 1 gig stick of ram I would have sent but I can not find it. You might also consider going back to an earler version of Linux that worked for you while you save for a new laptop because after 6 years the likelyhood of expensive failure is starting to get high. uriah On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > ** > > On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 02:48:02 AM Juan R. de Silva wrote: > > > I have Dell Latitude D820 laptop with Dual Core 1.8GHz CPU and 1GB of > > > RAM. The laptop is slightly over 6 years old. > > > > > I am using a Dell D630 with similar specs and age, originally with 2gb > ram, but a 2.0 dual core cpu, and intel integrated graphics. My cpu has a > slightly faster bus speed and more l2 cache. It originally had a 1.8ghz > cpu, but I replaced the motherboard and in the process got the 2.0 . > > > > > Until recent I was satisfied with it. However with advent of new > > > technologies it started performing poorly with DEs like KDE4 or Unity. > > > Since I do not consider switching to neither Xfce nor LXDE, the only > > > choice I have is either to upgrade RAM up to 4GB, which would cost me > > > with taxes around $80-90, or to buy a new laptop. > > > > > > However I'm not sure on 2 things: > > > > > > 1. Would such RAM upgrade actually give me real significant burst in > > > performance? > > Yes, a very noticeable effect. 1gb is pushing it, 2gb makes it quite > manageable.I upped my ram to 4 gb(for about 40 dollars, from amazon. > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000T8WN8U/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 > > > > The price has gone up a little. Not 100 percent sure if this will work in > your laptop, iirc the PC5300 ram is downward compatible with PC3200. It > works well in mine :) Also not sure if the price is similar for your > location. > > > > > > > > 2. This one is a tough one :-). 6 years old laptop could actually die at > > > any time leaving me with 2 not need memory sticks and lost $90. > > > > > > So, I'm trying to make up my mind, whether to upgrade RAM or to forget > > > about it and to save $80-90 rather adding them to buying a new laptop. > > > > I don't have much money myself; I have been successful with replacing > parts on my Dell as needed, less than 50 or so per repair or upgrade over > the past 2.5 years I've had this. > > > > One caveat I discovered is hard drive speed. My d630 had a slow 5300 rpm > drive, which I believe (in my case) was the choke point as there seems to > be more disk i/o in recent KDE versions, a quickness to go to swap far too > soon and often. The added ram reduced this quite a lot, but without > tweaking the swappiness settings it was still happening. The swappiness > settings may be something to check out as a stopgap with your current 1gb > ram. > > > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F > > > > > > What really fixed it for me was a closeout on ssd's at Staples this past > Christmas - 60 dollars for a 64gb Kingston. I was looking for a new drive > because I thought that my spinning drive was dieing. A larger spinning > drive and the ssd were almost the same price, so I gambled on the small > size. > > > > Boy is this thing effing *fast*. > > > > now, an ssd might not be the thing that works for you, but if you have > access to a faster spinning drive (assuming you have a slow one) to try > out, it might be something to consider. > > > > > > > > Would somebody give me an advise on the subject and/or share his/her > > > related experience, please? At least on the first item:-). > > > > Other things to consider , as you mention, is a less old system. Plus > perhaps extra things a new(er) laptop might bring: more usb ports, dvi/hdmi > instead of vga output, etc. > > > > I want so badly to have a newer laptop, or even a desktop, so I can get > these things, but the time needed to save funds for it is just too long, > and better put to more important things for me. You have to make the > determination what is best for you. But even going to 2gb ram will make it > more pleasant for sure! > > > > > > -- > > Clay Weber > > http://kubuntuforums.net > > http://claydoh.com > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed May 22 04:12:47 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 06:12:47 +0200 Subject: 4.10.3 updates In-Reply-To: <2453480.p7gxc0gsxG@lark-latitude-d630> References: <519B89A5.8080308@gmail.com> <2453480.p7gxc0gsxG@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <519C45BF.2030304@gmail.com> On 21/05/2013 17:08, Clay Weber wrote: > On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 04:50:13 PM O. Sinclair wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> checking in backports ppa it seems packages are there for upgrading >> quantal to 4.10.3 but I can not remember having seen any official >> newsrelease on kubuntu.org, rssfeeds or here. >> >> Have I missed something or are not all packages there or what? >> >> Kind regards >> Sinclair > > Probably not all packages are there yet. In the past, we have announced > updates before they were all fully built in the ppa. However it is fully > available for 13.04 as far as I can tell, but alas no announcement as of yet. > > looking at the ppa, there are definitely a number of packages not yet at 4.10.3 > > I had forgotten to add the kubuntu-updates ppa for Raring, grabbing 4.10.3 now > :) > Hm, if some but not all packages are updated would that not give users of 14.10 who have kubuntu-backports activated "a bumpy ride" in form of a partial upgrade? From clay at claydoh.com Wed May 22 04:36:42 2013 From: clay at claydoh.com (clay at claydoh.com) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 00:36:42 -0400 Subject: 4.10.3 updates In-Reply-To: <519C45BF.2030304@gmail.com> References: <519B89A5.8080308@gmail.com> <2453480.p7gxc0gsxG@lark-latitude-d630> <519C45BF.2030304@gmail.com> Message-ID: No, the packages for KDE 4.10.3 for 13.04 are in the kubuntu-*updates* ppa, and are complete. KDE 4.10.3 for older versions will be in the kubuntu-*backports* ppa. Which is incomplete. I believe the announcement should be out sometime Wednesday. "O. Sinclair" wrote: >On 21/05/2013 17:08, Clay Weber wrote: >> On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 04:50:13 PM O. Sinclair wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> checking in backports ppa it seems packages are there for upgrading >>> quantal to 4.10.3 but I can not remember having seen any official >>> newsrelease on kubuntu.org, rssfeeds or here. >>> >>> Have I missed something or are not all packages there or what? >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Sinclair >> >> Probably not all packages are there yet. In the past, we have >announced >> updates before they were all fully built in the ppa. However it is >fully >> available for 13.04 as far as I can tell, but alas no announcement as >of yet. >> >> looking at the ppa, there are definitely a number of packages not yet >at 4.10.3 >> >> I had forgotten to add the kubuntu-updates ppa for Raring, grabbing >4.10.3 now >> :) >> >Hm, if some but not all packages are updated would that not give users >of 14.10 who have kubuntu-backports activated "a bumpy ride" in form of > >a partial upgrade? > > > >-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Clay Weber (claydoh) Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phil_lor at bigpond.com Wed May 22 06:53:21 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 16:53:21 +1000 Subject: Dependency problems Message-ID: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> Thank you for reading this. I'm running into many dependency problems while trying to install several different packages. Netcat is the most recent package that fails to install due to dependency problems. Is anyone else having problems installing netcat on Kububtu 13.04? -- Regards, Phil From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed May 22 07:21:14 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 09:21:14 +0200 Subject: 4.10.3 updates In-Reply-To: References: <519B89A5.8080308@gmail.com> <2453480.p7gxc0gsxG@lark-latitude-d630> <519C45BF.2030304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <519C71EA.5080308@gmail.com> For Raring they are in updates, for Quantal in kubuntu-backports. That at the moment looks like as mix of 4.10.2 and -3 packages /Sinclair On 22/05/2013 06:36, clay at claydoh.com wrote: > No, the packages for KDE 4.10.3 for 13.04 are in the kubuntu-*updates* > ppa, and are complete. > > KDE 4.10.3 for older versions will be in the kubuntu-*backports* ppa. > Which is incomplete. > > I believe the announcement should be out sometime Wednesday. > > "O. Sinclair" wrote: > > On 21/05/2013 17:08, Clay Weber wrote: > > On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 04:50:13 PM O. Sinclair wrote: > > Dear all, > > checking in backports ppa it seems packages are there for > upgrading > quantal to 4.10.3 but I can not remember having seen any > official > newsrelease on kubuntu.org , rssfeeds or > here. > > Have I missed something or are not all packages there or what? > > Kind regards > Sinclair > > > Probably not all packages are there yet. In the past, we have > announced > updates before they were all fully built in the ppa. However it > is fully > available for 13.04 as far as I can tell, but alas no > announcement as of yet. > > looking at the ppa, there are definitely a number of packages > not yet at 4.10.3 > > I had forgotten to add the kubuntu-updates ppa for Raring, > grabbing 4.10.3 now > :) > > > Hm, if some but not all packages are updated would that not give users > of 14.10 who have kubuntu-backports activated "a bumpy ride" in form of > a partial upgrade? > > > > -- > Clay Weber (claydoh) > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. > > From phb at hbsys.plus.com Wed May 22 08:32:13 2013 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 09:32:13 +0100 Subject: Signing key error in Synaptic In-Reply-To: <2720761.QLC8cp39Du@lark-latitude-d630> References: <519B84E2.4000401@hbsys.plus.com> <2720761.QLC8cp39Du@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <519C828D.1020001@hbsys.plus.com> On 21/05/13 15:54, Clay Weber wrote: > On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 03:29:54 PM Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >> Can anyone advise me as to the origin of the following error message in >> Synaptic (and how to fix it)? >> >> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net raring Release: The following >> signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: >> NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 > > > Somehow the gpg signing key for one of the repositories did not get updated or > was corrupted on your system. A quick web search gives a command line to re- > import the key using the info in the error message: > > $ sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com > 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 > > > > Many thanks for your support. Yet another apt-* incarnation I wasn't aware of. Peter HB From phil_lor at bigpond.com Wed May 22 09:20:49 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 19:20:49 +1000 Subject: Dependency problems - part 2 In-Reply-To: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> References: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <519C8DF1.2060700@bigpond.com> On 22/05/13 16:53, Phil wrote: > Thank you for reading this. > > I'm running into many dependency problems while trying to install > several different packages. Netcat is the most recent package that fails > to install due to dependency problems. > > Is anyone else having problems installing netcat on Kububtu 13.04? I have another laptop running Xubuntu and I have been able to install netcat without any problem at all. So, is this dependency problem related to Kubuntu (a bug of some sort) or is it possible that something is amiss with my installation? -- Regards, Phil From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 22 09:44:26 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 11:44:26 +0200 Subject: Dependency problems - part 2 In-Reply-To: <519C8DF1.2060700@bigpond.com> References: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> <519C8DF1.2060700@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <1934512.iqdpTGpzI8@p5915> Phil wrote: > On 22/05/13 16:53, Phil wrote: > > I'm running into many dependency problems while trying to install > > several different packages. Netcat is the most recent package that > > fails to install due to dependency problems. > > > > Is anyone else having problems installing netcat on Kububtu 13.04? > > I have another laptop running Xubuntu and I have been able to install > netcat without any problem at all. So, is this dependency problem > related to Kubuntu (a bug of some sort) or is it possible that > something is amiss with my installation? I can't confirm the problem - just installed netcat on Kubuntu 13.04. And your Xubuntu experience shows that there shouldn't be a problem. After all the repositories for Xubuntu and Kubuntu are the same. Could you provide some more detail? Please run the command sudo apt-get update and post the output of the command sudo apt-get install netcat in a terminal on the machine with the dependency problem. Nils From phil_lor at bigpond.com Wed May 22 10:01:44 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 20:01:44 +1000 Subject: Dependency problems - part 2 In-Reply-To: <1934512.iqdpTGpzI8@p5915> References: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> <519C8DF1.2060700@bigpond.com> <1934512.iqdpTGpzI8@p5915> Message-ID: <519C9788.7010404@bigpond.com> On 22/05/13 19:44, Nils Kassube wrote: > Phil wrote: >> On 22/05/13 16:53, Phil wrote: >>> I'm running into many dependency problems while trying to install >>> several different packages. Netcat is the most recent package that >>> fails to install due to dependency problems. >>> >>> Is anyone else having problems installing netcat on Kububtu 13.04? >> >> I have another laptop running Xubuntu and I have been able to install >> netcat without any problem at all. So, is this dependency problem >> related to Kubuntu (a bug of some sort) or is it possible that >> something is amiss with my installation? > > I can't confirm the problem - just installed netcat on Kubuntu 13.04. > And your Xubuntu experience shows that there shouldn't be a problem. > After all the repositories for Xubuntu and Kubuntu are the same. Could > you provide some more detail? Please run the command > > sudo apt-get update > > and post the output of the command > > sudo apt-get install netcat > > in a terminal on the machine with the dependency problem. > Thank you Nils for your reply. phil at Asus:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get install netcat Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libc6 : Depends: debconf (>= 0.5) but it is not going to be installed or debconf-2.0 Depends: libgcc1 but it is not going to be installed netcat : Depends: netcat-traditional (>= 1.10-39) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). If I attempt to install mplayer, for example, then the dependency list is quite a lot longer. -- Regards, Phil From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 22 10:38:45 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 12:38:45 +0200 Subject: Dependency problems - part 2 In-Reply-To: <519C9788.7010404@bigpond.com> References: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> <1934512.iqdpTGpzI8@p5915> <519C9788.7010404@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <3345587.L7mSQdiuRH@p5915> Phil wrote: > phil at Asus:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get install netcat [...] > E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or > specify a solution). Well, did you try what the error message suggested? That would be sudo apt-get -f install and then try to install netcat again. > If I attempt to install mplayer, for example, then the dependency list > is quite a lot longer. I suppose that should be fixed after the "sudo apt-get -f install" as well. Nils From phil_lor at bigpond.com Wed May 22 10:46:46 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 20:46:46 +1000 Subject: Dependency problems - part 2 In-Reply-To: <3345587.L7mSQdiuRH@p5915> References: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> <1934512.iqdpTGpzI8@p5915> <519C9788.7010404@bigpond.com> <3345587.L7mSQdiuRH@p5915> Message-ID: <519CA216.1040907@bigpond.com> On 22/05/13 20:38, Nils Kassube wrote: > Phil wrote: >> phil at Asus:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get install netcat > [...] >> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or >> specify a solution). > > Well, did you try what the error message suggested? That would be > > sudo apt-get -f install > > and then try to install netcat again. > >> If I attempt to install mplayer, for example, then the dependency list >> is quite a lot longer. > > I suppose that should be fixed after the "sudo apt-get -f install" as > well. > Thanks again for your reply, the -f switch didn't help. -- Regards, Phil From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 22 10:59:04 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 12:59:04 +0200 Subject: Dependency problems - part 2 In-Reply-To: <519CA216.1040907@bigpond.com> References: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> <3345587.L7mSQdiuRH@p5915> <519CA216.1040907@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <1632617.HKdam4TyBG@p5915> Phil wrote: > On 22/05/13 20:38, Nils Kassube wrote: > > Phil wrote: > >> phil at Asus:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get install netcat > > > > [...] > > > >> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages > >> (or > >> specify a solution). > > > > Well, did you try what the error message suggested? That would be > > > > sudo apt-get -f install > > > > and then try to install netcat again. > > > >> If I attempt to install mplayer, for example, then the dependency > >> list is quite a lot longer. > > > > I suppose that should be fixed after the "sudo apt-get -f install" > > as > > well. > > Thanks again for your reply, the -f switch didn't help. Please post the error message you get from the command sudo apt-get -f install otherwise it is difficult to find a solution. Nils From phil_lor at bigpond.com Wed May 22 11:07:51 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 21:07:51 +1000 Subject: Dependency problems - part 2 In-Reply-To: <1632617.HKdam4TyBG@p5915> References: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> <3345587.L7mSQdiuRH@p5915> <519CA216.1040907@bigpond.com> <1632617.HKdam4TyBG@p5915> Message-ID: <519CA707.4020308@bigpond.com> On 22/05/13 20:59, Nils Kassube wrote: > Please post the error message you get from the command > > sudo apt-get -f install > > otherwise it is difficult to find a solution. phil at Asus:~$ sudo apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following extra packages will be installed: apt-utils debconf debconf-i18n dpkg gcc-4.7-base libapt-inst1.5 libapt-pkg4.12 libbz2-1.0 libdb5.1 libgcc1 liblocale-gettext-perl liblzma5 libselinux1 libstdc++6 libtext-charwidth-perl libtext-iconv-perl libtext-wrapi18n-perl perl-base tar zlib1g Suggested packages: xz-utils debconf-doc debconf-utils whiptail dialog gnome-utils libterm-readline-gnu-perl libgtk2-perl libnet-ldap-perl libqtgui4-perl libqtcore4-perl apt bzip2 ncompress The following NEW packages will be installed: apt-utils debconf debconf-i18n dpkg gcc-4.7-base libapt-inst1.5 libapt-pkg4.12 libbz2-1.0 libdb5.1 libgcc1 liblocale-gettext-perl liblzma5 libselinux1 libstdc++6 libtext-charwidth-perl libtext-iconv-perl libtext-wrapi18n-perl perl-base tar zlib1g 0 upgraded, 20 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 2 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0 B/6,630 kB of archives. After this operation, 22.4 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y E: Cannot get debconf version. Is debconf installed? debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: No such file or directory dpkg: regarding .../libbz2-1.0_1.0.6-4_i386.deb containing libbz2-1.0:i386, pre-dependency problem: libbz2-1.0 pre-depends on multiarch-support multiarch-support is unpacked, but has never been configured. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libbz2-1.0_1.0.6-4_i386.deb (--unpack): pre-dependency problem - not installing libbz2-1.0:i386 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libbz2-1.0_1.0.6-4_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- Regards, Phil From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 22 11:48:17 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 13:48:17 +0200 Subject: Dependency problems - part 2 In-Reply-To: <519CA707.4020308@bigpond.com> References: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> <1632617.HKdam4TyBG@p5915> <519CA707.4020308@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <2741690.alLU9ouPsd@p5915> Phil wrote: > phil at Asus:~$ sudo apt-get -f install [...] > E: Cannot get debconf version. Is debconf installed? > debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: No such file or directory > dpkg: regarding .../libbz2-1.0_1.0.6-4_i386.deb containing > libbz2-1.0:i386, pre-dependency problem: > libbz2-1.0 pre-depends on multiarch-support > multiarch-support is unpacked, but has never been configured. Hmm, I'm not sure what the debconf problem might be, but at least the last line suggests that first some things have to be configured. Please try sudo dpkg --configure -a and if there is no error, try "sudo apt-get -f install" again. If there are errors, please post the error message. Nils From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed May 22 14:50:57 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 16:50:57 +0200 Subject: 4.10.3 updates In-Reply-To: <519C71EA.5080308@gmail.com> References: <519B89A5.8080308@gmail.com> <2453480.p7gxc0gsxG@lark-latitude-d630> <519C45BF.2030304@gmail.com> <519C71EA.5080308@gmail.com> Message-ID: <519CDB51.5030102@gmail.com> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10.3 On 22/05/2013 09:21, O. Sinclair wrote: > For Raring they are in updates, for Quantal in kubuntu-backports. That > at the moment looks like as mix of 4.10.2 and -3 packages > > /Sinclair > > On 22/05/2013 06:36, clay at claydoh.com wrote: >> No, the packages for KDE 4.10.3 for 13.04 are in the kubuntu-*updates* >> ppa, and are complete. >> >> KDE 4.10.3 for older versions will be in the kubuntu-*backports* ppa. >> Which is incomplete. >> >> I believe the announcement should be out sometime Wednesday. >> >> "O. Sinclair" wrote: >> >> On 21/05/2013 17:08, Clay Weber wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 04:50:13 PM O. Sinclair wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> checking in backports ppa it seems packages are there for >> upgrading >> quantal to 4.10.3 but I can not remember having seen any >> official >> newsrelease on kubuntu.org , rssfeeds or >> here. >> >> Have I missed something or are not all packages there or >> what? >> >> Kind regards >> Sinclair >> >> >> Probably not all packages are there yet. In the past, we have >> announced >> updates before they were all fully built in the ppa. However it >> is fully >> available for 13.04 as far as I can tell, but alas no >> announcement as of yet. >> >> looking at the ppa, there are definitely a number of packages >> not yet at 4.10.3 >> >> I had forgotten to add the kubuntu-updates ppa for Raring, >> grabbing 4.10.3 now >> :) >> >> >> Hm, if some but not all packages are updated would that not give >> users >> of 14.10 who have kubuntu-backports activated "a bumpy ride" in >> form of >> a partial upgrade? >> >> >> >> -- >> Clay Weber (claydoh) >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. >> >> > > From phil_lor at bigpond.com Thu May 23 02:38:56 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 12:38:56 +1000 Subject: Dependency problems - part 2 In-Reply-To: <2741690.alLU9ouPsd@p5915> References: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> <1632617.HKdam4TyBG@p5915> <519CA707.4020308@bigpond.com> <2741690.alLU9ouPsd@p5915> Message-ID: <519D8140.2000103@bigpond.com> On 22/05/13 21:48, Nils Kassube wrote: > Phil wrote: >> phil at Asus:~$ sudo apt-get -f install > [...] >> E: Cannot get debconf version. Is debconf installed? >> debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: No such file or directory >> dpkg: regarding .../libbz2-1.0_1.0.6-4_i386.deb containing >> libbz2-1.0:i386, pre-dependency problem: >> libbz2-1.0 pre-depends on multiarch-support >> multiarch-support is unpacked, but has never been configured. > > Hmm, I'm not sure what the debconf problem might be, but at least the > last line suggests that first some things have to be configured. Please > try > > sudo dpkg --configure -a > > and if there is no error, try "sudo apt-get -f install" again. If there > are errors, please post the error message. phil at Asus:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libc6:i386: libc6:i386 depends on debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0; however: Package debconf is not installed. Package debconf-2.0 is not installed. libc6:i386 depends on libgcc1; however: Package libgcc1 is not installed. dpkg: error processing libc6:i386 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of multiarch-support: multiarch-support depends on libc6 (>= 2.13-5); however: Package libc6:i386 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing multiarch-support (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: libc6:i386 multiarch-support Does this help? And, of course, debconf cannot be installed because it's one of the dependents that has been preventing me from installing other packages. -- Regards, Phil From kassube at gmx.net Thu May 23 06:37:24 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 08:37:24 +0200 Subject: Dependency problems - part 2 In-Reply-To: <519D8140.2000103@bigpond.com> References: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> <2741690.alLU9ouPsd@p5915> <519D8140.2000103@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <4434532.KhCmJoGm7b@p5915> Phil wrote: > phil at Asus:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libc6:i386: > libc6:i386 depends on debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0; however: > Package debconf is not installed. > Package debconf-2.0 is not installed. > libc6:i386 depends on libgcc1; however: > Package libgcc1 is not installed. > > dpkg: error processing libc6:i386 (--configure): > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of multiarch-support: > multiarch-support depends on libc6 (>= 2.13-5); however: > Package libc6:i386 is not configured yet. > > dpkg: error processing multiarch-support (--configure): > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured > Errors were encountered while processing: > libc6:i386 > multiarch-support > > > Does this help? And, of course, debconf cannot be installed because > it's one of the dependents that has been preventing me from > installing other packages. At least it doesn't help me to determine what could be done. It is quite strange that debconf is missing on your machine. I tried to uninstall it on the 13.04 system, but I was warned that it would remove many vital packages, therefore I didn't proceed. So I can't find out what would work for you, but you could try to download the debconf package from packages.ubuntu.com and install it with the command sudo dpkg -i FILENAME where you replace FILENAME with the filename of the downloaded package. But I'm not so sure it would work. Maybe someone else on this list has a better idea? If that doesn't help, I would suggest to ask on the ubuntu-users list [1]. I think there are some people much more familiar than me with the packing system. And please provide the output of the command "sudo dpkg --configure -a" like above if you ask there. Nils [1] From phil_lor at bigpond.com Thu May 23 06:53:59 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 16:53:59 +1000 Subject: Dependency problems - part 2 In-Reply-To: <4434532.KhCmJoGm7b@p5915> References: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> <2741690.alLU9ouPsd@p5915> <519D8140.2000103@bigpond.com> <4434532.KhCmJoGm7b@p5915> Message-ID: <519DBD07.5030601@bigpond.com> On 23/05/13 16:37, Nils Kassube wrote: > Phil wrote: >> phil at Asus:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a >> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libc6:i386: >> libc6:i386 depends on debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0; however: >> Package debconf is not installed. >> Package debconf-2.0 is not installed. >> libc6:i386 depends on libgcc1; however: >> Package libgcc1 is not installed. >> >> dpkg: error processing libc6:i386 (--configure): >> dependency problems - leaving unconfigured >> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of multiarch-support: >> multiarch-support depends on libc6 (>= 2.13-5); however: >> Package libc6:i386 is not configured yet. >> >> dpkg: error processing multiarch-support (--configure): >> dependency problems - leaving unconfigured >> Errors were encountered while processing: >> libc6:i386 >> multiarch-support >> >> >> Does this help? And, of course, debconf cannot be installed because >> it's one of the dependents that has been preventing me from >> installing other packages. > > At least it doesn't help me to determine what could be done. It is quite > strange that debconf is missing on your machine. I tried to uninstall it > on the 13.04 system, but I was warned that it would remove many vital > packages, therefore I didn't proceed. So I can't find out what would > work for you, but you could try to download the debconf package from > packages.ubuntu.com and install it with the command > > sudo dpkg -i FILENAME > > where you replace FILENAME with the filename of the downloaded package. > But I'm not so sure it would work. > > Maybe someone else on this list has a better idea? > > If that doesn't help, I would suggest to ask on the ubuntu-users list > [1]. I think there are some people much more familiar than me with the > packing system. And please provide the output of the command "sudo dpkg > --configure -a" like above if you ask there. > Thank you very much for you assistance Nils. I'll follow your advice and post a question on the Ubuntu list. -- Regards, Phil From yofel at gmx.net Thu May 23 18:30:02 2013 From: yofel at gmx.net (Philip Muskovac) Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 20:30:02 +0200 Subject: 4.10.3 updates In-Reply-To: <519C71EA.5080308@gmail.com> References: <519B89A5.8080308@gmail.com> <519C71EA.5080308@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4094218.tBTvgdq8mq@yofel-t510> On Wednesday 22 May 2013 09:21:14 O. Sinclair wrote: > For Raring they are in updates, for Quantal in kubuntu-backports. That > at the moment looks like as mix of 4.10.2 and -3 packages > > /Sinclair The Mix of 4.10.2 and 4.10.3 packages results from a difference check we do before updating the packages and is intentional. The packages that are kept at .2 simply had no change in .3 so we skipped updating them as they would've been identical to .2. That way you don't need to download useless updates. Regards, Philip Muskovac From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu May 23 20:24:45 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 22:24:45 +0200 Subject: 4.10.3 updates In-Reply-To: <4094218.tBTvgdq8mq@yofel-t510> References: <519B89A5.8080308@gmail.com> <519C71EA.5080308@gmail.com> <4094218.tBTvgdq8mq@yofel-t510> Message-ID: <519E7B0D.8090001@gmail.com> On 23/05/2013 20:30, Philip Muskovac wrote: > On Wednesday 22 May 2013 09:21:14 O. Sinclair wrote: >> For Raring they are in updates, for Quantal in kubuntu-backports. That >> at the moment looks like as mix of 4.10.2 and -3 packages >> >> /Sinclair > > The Mix of 4.10.2 and 4.10.3 packages results from a difference check we do before updating the packages and is intentional. The packages that are kept at .2 simply had no change in .3 so we skipped updating them as they would've been identical to .2. > That way you don't need to download useless updates. > > Regards, > Philip Muskovac > Thanks for that explanation that does make sense. As I was on 4.10.0 I got the full monty upgrade in any case! From oub at mat.ucm.es Sat May 25 17:14:10 2013 From: oub at mat.ucm.es (Uwe Brauer) Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 19:14:10 +0200 Subject: Lucid definite end??? Message-ID: <87bo7zoucd.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Hello I know that according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases Lucid has end of life may 9 2013. Since I still can download and install, I understand that end of life means no security upgrades. But when will the repository be shut down definitely?? In the above webpage Hardy for example is no longer mentioned. thanks Uwe From cody.smith9202 at gmail.com Sat May 25 17:19:28 2013 From: cody.smith9202 at gmail.com (Cody Smith) Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 10:19:28 -0700 Subject: Lucid definite end??? In-Reply-To: <87bo7zoucd.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <87bo7zoucd.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Message-ID: I thought that already happened..... guess it hasn't. On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Uwe Brauer wrote: > Hello > > I know that according to > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases > Lucid has end of life may 9 2013. > > Since I still can download and install, I understand that end of life > means no security upgrades. But when will the repository be shut down > definitely?? > > In the above webpage Hardy for example is no longer mentioned. > > thanks > > Uwe > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 25 17:54:08 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 19:54:08 +0200 Subject: Lucid definite end??? In-Reply-To: <87bo7zoucd.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <87bo7zoucd.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Message-ID: <80561611.Xn3pqOGaDW@p5915> Uwe Brauer wrote: > I know that according to > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases > Lucid has end of life may 9 2013. > > Since I still can download and install, I understand that end of life > means no security upgrades. But when will the repository be shut down > definitely?? Lucid has reached EOL for the desktop versions but not for the server version. Therefore the repositories are still available. Of course there are no more updates for the desktop components but as the server version is still supported, you may still get updates e.g. for the kernel. You can expect the EOL for the server version in about two years. Nils From oub at mat.ucm.es Sat May 25 19:38:11 2013 From: oub at mat.ucm.es (Uwe Brauer) Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 21:38:11 +0200 Subject: Lucid definite end??? References: <87bo7zoucd.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <80561611.Xn3pqOGaDW@p5915> Message-ID: <87d2seonoc.fsf@mat.ucm.es> >> "Nils" == Nils Kassube writes: > Uwe Brauer wrote: > Lucid has reached EOL for the desktop versions but not for the server > version. Therefore the repositories are still available. Of course there > are no more updates for the desktop components but as the server version > is still supported, you may still get updates e.g. for the kernel. You > can expect the EOL for the server version in about two years. But does this mean that, say, if I want to install a program such as zile, I can still till the end of the server version? Uwe From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 25 20:17:50 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 22:17:50 +0200 Subject: Lucid definite end??? In-Reply-To: <87d2seonoc.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <87bo7zoucd.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <80561611.Xn3pqOGaDW@p5915> <87d2seonoc.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Message-ID: <2837956.FLSM9qH2XY@p5915> Uwe Brauer wrote: > >> "Nils" == Nils Kassube writes: > > Uwe Brauer wrote: > > > > Lucid has reached EOL for the desktop versions but not for the > > server > > version. Therefore the repositories are still available. Of > > course there are no more updates for the desktop components but > > as the server version is still supported, you may still get > > updates e.g. for the kernel. You can expect the EOL for the > > server version in about two years. > But does this mean that, say, if I want to install a program such as > zile, I can still till the end of the server version? According to what I have seen with Hardy, it was indeed possible to install all applications until the server edition reached EOL. Therefore I would assume it will be the same for Lucid. But even after the server version reaches EOL you can still install applications. However then you have to change the server from *.archive.ubuntu.com to old- releases.ubuntu.com. There you can find all the ancient stuff. Nils From oub at mat.ucm.es Sun May 26 09:01:19 2013 From: oub at mat.ucm.es (Uwe Brauer) Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 11:01:19 +0200 Subject: Lucid definite end??? References: <87bo7zoucd.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <80561611.Xn3pqOGaDW@p5915> <87d2seonoc.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <2837956.FLSM9qH2XY@p5915> Message-ID: <87d2sedsio.fsf@mat.ucm.es> > According to what I have seen with Hardy, it was indeed possible to > install all applications until the server edition reached > EOL. Therefore I would assume it will be the same for Lucid. But > even after the server version reaches EOL you can still install > applications. However then you have to change the server from > *.archive.ubuntu.com to old- releases.ubuntu.com. There you can > find all the ancient stuff. Thanks this is very useful information, because I was afraid to be forced to upgrade in a moment where I have no time whatsoever. In addition in 12.04 xpdf still crashed when opening a pdf file! Uwe From phil_lor at bigpond.com Sun May 26 09:07:17 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 19:07:17 +1000 Subject: Automount no longer working Message-ID: <51A1D0C5.3070908@bigpond.com> Thank you for reading this. For some strange reason external USB devices are not longer being automounted. Also for some strange reason the "Enable automatic mounting of removable media was unchecked plus all of the "Automount on attach" check boxes were also unchecked. I expected that ticking all of the boxes would fix the problem but instead Device Notification displays "Could not mount the following device" etc I've also installed "usbmount" although I've never had to install it in the past. Can anyone offer any suggestions to fix this? -- Regards, Phil From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Sun May 26 17:00:47 2013 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 13:00:47 -0400 Subject: [13.04_64Bit] - Ugly Boot/Shutdown Screens? Message-ID: <51A23FBF.1090104@GMail.com> [13.04_64Bit] - Ugly Boot/Shutdown Screens? Hi, I recently switched from openSUSE 12.3 64Bit KDE to Kubuntu 13.04 64Bit on my thin client with Intel CPU and nVidia GPU. I have one problem(well not a problem, but annoyance) During boot or shutdown, I have ugly text screen: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kubuntu . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ How do I get back the pretty boot/shutdown screens? I do have the proprietary nVidia display driver installed(nVidia ION 512MB GPU) Thanks! Nice OS... Jesse From kaj at haulrich.net Sun May 26 18:09:45 2013 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 20:09:45 +0200 Subject: [13.04_64Bit] - Ugly Boot/Shutdown Screens? In-Reply-To: <51A23FBF.1090104@GMail.com> References: <51A23FBF.1090104@GMail.com> Message-ID: <51A24FE9.7030401@haulrich.net> On 05/26/2013 07:00 PM, Jesse Palser wrote: > [13.04_64Bit] - Ugly Boot/Shutdown Screens? > > Hi, > > I recently switched from openSUSE 12.3 64Bit KDE > to Kubuntu 13.04 64Bit on my thin client with Intel CPU and nVidia GPU. > > I have one problem(well not a problem, but annoyance) > During boot or shutdown, I have ugly text screen: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Kubuntu > . . . . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > How do I get back the pretty boot/shutdown screens? > I do have the proprietary nVidia display driver installed(nVidia ION > 512MB GPU) > Thanks! > > Nice OS... I guess the word "pretty" i a matter of personal taste. Many *buntu users ask the opposite question: "how to get rid of the not-so-informative eye candy" and see whats really going on when a linux system boots in all its glory. I do, for example. So in the file /etc/default/grub I have removed the words "quiet splash". After doing so and saving the edits (as root, of couse), one will need to run 'sudo update-grub'. On next reboot there's no more eye candy, just a lot of information scrolling by. Regards Kaj Haulrich. --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 13.04 --------- From phil_lor at bigpond.com Sun May 26 21:41:52 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 07:41:52 +1000 Subject: Automount no longer working Message-ID: <51A281A0.6060202@bigpond.com> Thank you for reading this. For some strange reason external USB devices are not longer being automounted. Also for some strange reason the "Enable automatic mounting of removable media was unchecked plus all of the "Automount on attach" check boxes were also unchecked. I expected that ticking all of the boxes would fix the problem but instead Device Notification displays "Could not mount the following device" etc The external USB devices show up under Dolphin and are also listed with lsusb. I've also installed "usbmount" although I've never had to install it in the past. Can anyone offer any suggestions to fix this? -- Regards, Phil From kassube at gmx.net Mon May 27 05:27:35 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 07:27:35 +0200 Subject: Automount no longer working In-Reply-To: <51A281A0.6060202@bigpond.com> References: <51A281A0.6060202@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <4842185.VxSeOZ6pO6@p5915> Phil wrote: > Thank you for reading this. > > For some strange reason external USB devices are not longer being > automounted. > > Also for some strange reason the "Enable automatic mounting of > removable media was unchecked plus all of the "Automount on attach" > check boxes were also unchecked. I expected that ticking all of the > boxes would fix the problem but instead Device Notification displays > "Could not mount the following device" etc > > The external USB devices show up under Dolphin and are also listed > with lsusb. I've also installed "usbmount" although I've never had to > install it in the past. > > Can anyone offer any suggestions to fix this? It looks like it only works for devices which have been selected for automounting. Therefore connect your device(s) and go to systemsettings -> "Removable Devices" and tick the "Enable automatic mounting of removable media" checkbox (if necessary). In the "Device overrides" area tick the checkboxes "Automount on Login" and "Automount on Attach" for the devices you want to automount. Then click "Apply". Nils From phil_lor at bigpond.com Mon May 27 07:30:01 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 17:30:01 +1000 Subject: Automount no longer working In-Reply-To: <4842185.VxSeOZ6pO6@p5915> References: <51A281A0.6060202@bigpond.com> <4842185.VxSeOZ6pO6@p5915> Message-ID: <51A30B79.5000305@bigpond.com> On 27/05/13 15:27, Nils Kassube wrote: > Phil wrote: >> Thank you for reading this. >> >> For some strange reason external USB devices are not longer being >> automounted. >> >> Also for some strange reason the "Enable automatic mounting of >> removable media was unchecked plus all of the "Automount on attach" >> check boxes were also unchecked. I expected that ticking all of the >> boxes would fix the problem but instead Device Notification displays >> "Could not mount the following device" etc >> >> The external USB devices show up under Dolphin and are also listed >> with lsusb. I've also installed "usbmount" although I've never had to >> install it in the past. >> >> Can anyone offer any suggestions to fix this? > > It looks like it only works for devices which have been selected for > automounting. Therefore connect your device(s) and go to systemsettings > -> "Removable Devices" and tick the "Enable automatic mounting of > removable media" checkbox (if necessary). In the "Device overrides" area > tick the checkboxes "Automount on Login" and "Automount on Attach" for > the devices you want to automount. Then click "Apply". > Thanks Nils, I did all of that (and more) although I may not have stated it very clearly above. Anyway, I have discovered the cause of the problem but not the cure. The USB devices are now being auto mounted but the notifier is not being triggered. I noticed that this has occurred after a recent string of updates were received. Perhaps future updates will fix the problem? I panicked because it seemed that I couldn't do the weekly backup but all is well now except for the notifier. -- Regards, Phil From stan10x10 at gmail.com Mon May 27 08:17:25 2013 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (Uriah Heep) Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 04:17:25 -0400 Subject: upgrade to 13.04 after log in black screen but f key opens screen shot and Message-ID: Did on line upgrade to 13.04 after log only have black screen but if I hit prtsc the window opens and by invoking error I get to Firefox. If i minimize I have to hit prtsc again to get out of black screen and into fire fox. Any suggestions to a novice on how to get my home screen back? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Mon May 27 14:33:33 2013 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 10:33:33 -0400 Subject: [13.04_64Bit] - Ugly Boot/Shutdown Screens? In-Reply-To: <51A24FE9.7030401@haulrich.net> References: <51A23FBF.1090104@GMail.com> <51A24FE9.7030401@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <51A36EBD.9040104@GMail.com> On 05/26/2013 02:09 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On 05/26/2013 07:00 PM, Jesse Palser wrote: >> [13.04_64Bit] - Ugly Boot/Shutdown Screens? >> >> Hi, >> >> I recently switched from openSUSE 12.3 64Bit KDE >> to Kubuntu 13.04 64Bit on my thin client with Intel CPU and nVidia GPU. >> >> I have one problem(well not a problem, but annoyance) >> During boot or shutdown, I have ugly text screen: >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> Kubuntu >> . . . . >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> How do I get back the pretty boot/shutdown screens? >> I do have the proprietary nVidia display driver installed(nVidia ION >> 512MB GPU) >> Thanks! >> >> Nice OS... > > I guess the word "pretty" i a matter of personal taste. Many *buntu > users ask the opposite question: "how to get rid of the > not-so-informative eye candy" and see whats really going on when a > linux system boots in all its glory. > > I do, for example. So in the file /etc/default/grub I have removed the > words "quiet splash". After doing so and saving the edits (as root, of > couse), one will need to run 'sudo update-grub'. On next reboot > there's no more eye candy, just a lot of information scrolling by. > > Regards > Kaj Haulrich. > > --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- > --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 13.04 --------- > Hi, Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks! Jesse From kassube at gmx.net Mon May 27 14:59:05 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 16:59:05 +0200 Subject: [13.04_64Bit] - Ugly Boot/Shutdown Screens? In-Reply-To: <51A36EBD.9040104@GMail.com> References: <51A23FBF.1090104@GMail.com> <51A24FE9.7030401@haulrich.net> <51A36EBD.9040104@GMail.com> Message-ID: <2483775.d5P2rRcWRT@p5915> Jesse Palser wrote: > >> I have one problem(well not a problem, but annoyance) > >> During boot or shutdown, I have ugly text screen: > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ----------->> > >> Kubuntu > >> . . . . > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ----------- > >> > >> How do I get back the pretty boot/shutdown screens? > Anyone know how to fix this? Maybe you should explain what you want to see - after all it isn't clear what would be a "pretty boot/shutdown screen" in your eyes. Nils From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon May 27 15:38:45 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 17:38:45 +0200 Subject: [13.04_64Bit] - Ugly Boot/Shutdown Screens? In-Reply-To: <2483775.d5P2rRcWRT@p5915> References: <51A23FBF.1090104@GMail.com> <51A24FE9.7030401@haulrich.net> <51A36EBD.9040104@GMail.com> <2483775.d5P2rRcWRT@p5915> Message-ID: <51A37E05.5030909@gmail.com> On 27/05/2013 16:59, Nils Kassube wrote: > Jesse Palser wrote: >>>> I have one problem(well not a problem, but annoyance) >>>> During boot or shutdown, I have ugly text screen: >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----------->> >>>> Kubuntu >>>> . . . . >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----------- >>>> >>>> How do I get back the pretty boot/shutdown screens? > >> Anyone know how to fix this? > > Maybe you should explain what you want to see - after all it isn't clear > what would be a "pretty boot/shutdown screen" in your eyes. > > I would assume he means the "plymouth" theme/screen? From sgrace at pobox.com Mon May 27 16:18:09 2013 From: sgrace at pobox.com (Steven Grace) Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 09:18:09 -0700 Subject: [13.04_64Bit] - Ugly Boot/Shutdown Screens? In-Reply-To: <51A23FBF.1090104@GMail.com> References: <51A23FBF.1090104@GMail.com> Message-ID: <51A38741.5080608@pobox.com> On 05/26/2013 10:00 AM, Jesse Palser wrote: > I recently switched from openSUSE 12.3 64Bit KDE > to Kubuntu 13.04 64Bit on my thin client with Intel CPU and nVidia GPU. > > I have one problem(well not a problem, but annoyance) > During boot or shutdown, I have ugly text screen: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Kubuntu > . . . . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > How do I get back the pretty boot/shutdown screens? > I do have the proprietary nVidia display driver installed(nVidia ION > 512MB GPU) I don't have the full solution but I believe I understand the cause. My PC has two installations of Xubuntu 12.04 and one installation of Ubuntu Studio 12.04. I've observed that I only get the "pretty" screens for my primary installation (the first one listed in GRUB). The others get the text screen you're referring to. (On my PC the "pretty" screens only display for a fraction of a second so it doesn't matter to me whether I see them or not.) I checked /boot/grub/grub.cfg and noticed that the primary installation has three additional lines below the "menuentry" line that the other installations don't have: recordfail gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode insmod gzio I booted a secondary installation after temporarily editing the boot information to add the lines above; the "pretty" screens appeared at boot and at shutdown. I'm sure there's a way to get those additional lines permanently added; perhaps someone else can help with that. I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to edit grub.cfg directly. From kassube at gmx.net Mon May 27 17:24:03 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 19:24:03 +0200 Subject: [13.04_64Bit] - Ugly Boot/Shutdown Screens? In-Reply-To: <51A37E05.5030909@gmail.com> References: <51A23FBF.1090104@GMail.com> <2483775.d5P2rRcWRT@p5915> <51A37E05.5030909@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3032750.ko1gaU2b8k@p5915> O. Sinclair wrote: > On 27/05/2013 16:59, Nils Kassube wrote: > > Jesse Palser wrote: > >>>> I have one problem(well not a problem, but annoyance) > >>>> During boot or shutdown, I have ugly text screen: > >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> -- > >>>> ----------->> > >>>> > >>>> Kubuntu > >>>> . . . . > >>>> > >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> -- > >>>> ----------- > >>>> > >>>> How do I get back the pretty boot/shutdown screens? > >> > >> Anyone know how to fix this? > > > > Maybe you should explain what you want to see - after all it isn't > > clear what would be a "pretty boot/shutdown screen" in your eyes. > > I would assume he means the "plymouth" theme/screen? Well, I never noticed before, that there is a different screen available, but now I made some tests with Kubuntu 13.04 in a VM. If the package "plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo" is installed, there is a Kubuntu logo at boot / shutdown. If only "plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text" is installed, there is the above mentioned text screen. So I think, the package "plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo" is missing. Nils From yofel at gmx.net Tue May 28 08:58:16 2013 From: yofel at gmx.net (Philip Muskovac) Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 10:58:16 +0200 Subject: [13.04_64Bit] - Ugly Boot/Shutdown Screens? In-Reply-To: <51A36EBD.9040104@GMail.com> References: <51A23FBF.1090104@GMail.com> <51A24FE9.7030401@haulrich.net> <51A36EBD.9040104@GMail.com> Message-ID: <1461400.TBus0EIalR@pq-edge> On Monday 27 May 2013 10:33:33 Jesse Palser wrote: > On 05/26/2013 02:09 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On 05/26/2013 07:00 PM, Jesse Palser wrote: > >> [13.04_64Bit] - Ugly Boot/Shutdown Screens? > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I recently switched from openSUSE 12.3 64Bit KDE > >> to Kubuntu 13.04 64Bit on my thin client with Intel CPU and nVidia GPU. > >> > >> I have one problem(well not a problem, but annoyance) > >> During boot or shutdown, I have ugly text screen: > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ----->> > >> Kubuntu > >> . . . . > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ----- > >> > >> > >> > >> How do I get back the pretty boot/shutdown screens? > >> I do have the proprietary nVidia display driver installed(nVidia ION > >> 512MB GPU) > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Nice OS... > > > > I guess the word "pretty" i a matter of personal taste. Many *buntu > > users ask the opposite question: "how to get rid of the > > not-so-informative eye candy" and see whats really going on when a > > linux system boots in all its glory. > > > > I do, for example. So in the file /etc/default/grub I have removed the > > words "quiet splash". After doing so and saving the edits (as root, of > > couse), one will need to run 'sudo update-grub'. On next reboot > > there's no more eye candy, just a lot of information scrolling by. > > > > Regards > > Kaj Haulrich. > > > > --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- > > --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 13.04 --------- > > Hi, > > Anyone know how to fix this? > Thanks! HI, Some (not too deep) technical background to begin with: The linux kernel has 2 modes it can usually start in: text and graphical. Text mode is the old default that exists since the last millenia and is what usually provides you with a small 640x480 px text console (which is used by the plymouth text splash theme). Graphical mode relies on a working framebuffer which is usually provided by KMS today. The proprietary nvidia driver does not support KMS and expects the kernel to boot in text mode so you get the text splash. (That's the only supported mode actually) If you really want the pretty graphical splash with the nvidia driver, you can set a framebuffer resolution yourself in /etc/default/grub which works for most systems: In /etc/default/grub you find this: # The resolution used on graphical terminal # note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE # you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo' #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 So start by checking what resolutions you *can* use: 1) reboot and hold shift pressed after the bios screen so the grub menu is displayed 2) press 'c' to get to the commandline and run 'vbeinfo' there 3) note down the appropriate resolution that you want to use (note: your display's native resolution might not be in that list) 4) reboot back into kubuntu Once you're back, you edit /etc/default/grub and set 2 things (remove the # before GRUB_GFXMODE first): GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x800 GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1280x800x32 replacing 1280x800 with your resolution. After that run update-grub as root. That will force the kernel into graphical mode with the set resolution and you should have the pretty splash back. Note: Another thing it does is cause your system log to have a warning from the nvidia driver that running it together with a framebuffer is unsupported, but I haven't had any issues so far. Regards, Philip From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Tue May 28 15:36:55 2013 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 11:36:55 -0400 Subject: [13.04 64Bit] - Installation Fails On UEFI Grub Install ? Message-ID: <51A4CF17.2090202@GMail.com> [13.04 64Bit] - Installation Fails On UEFI Grub Install ? Hi, I tried several times to install Kubuntu 13.04 64Bit on my desktop but it always fails on UEFI Grub installation? System is the following: - AMD FX 3.5GHz 8-Core CPU - Asus Sabertooth 990FX Gen2 Motherboard - 32GB DDR3 RAM - VisionTek AMD Radeon HD 7800 2GB GDDR5 Graphic Adapter - Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB HDD - DVD+/-RW Drive I boot from a DVD with Kubuntu 13.04 64Bit installation installed. Everything seems to work until the end where it crashes on UEFI Grub installation? (I thought UEFI BIOS was better supported by new 13.04?) Anyone know how to get this working on above desktop? Thanks! Jesse From myriam at kde.org Tue May 28 21:05:09 2013 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 23:05:09 +0200 Subject: [13.04 64Bit] - Installation Fails On UEFI Grub Install ? In-Reply-To: <51A4CF17.2090202@GMail.com> References: <51A4CF17.2090202@GMail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jesse, On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Jesse Palser wrote: > [13.04 64Bit] - Installation Fails On UEFI Grub Install ? > > Hi, > > I tried several times to install Kubuntu 13.04 64Bit on my desktop > but it always fails on UEFI Grub installation? > > System is the following: > - AMD FX 3.5GHz 8-Core CPU > - Asus Sabertooth 990FX Gen2 Motherboard > - 32GB DDR3 RAM > - VisionTek AMD Radeon HD 7800 2GB GDDR5 Graphic Adapter > - Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB HDD > - DVD+/-RW Drive > > I boot from a DVD with Kubuntu 13.04 64Bit installation installed. > Everything seems to work until the end where it crashes on UEFI Grub > installation? > (I thought UEFI BIOS was better supported by new 13.04?) > > Anyone know how to get this working on above desktop? Try setting the BIOS to "Legacy" boot options instead of "UEFI" for the installation, that should do the trick. At least recent BIOS on Lenovo laptops all have that option (I had to do that yesterday when I reinstalled on an SSD in my laptop) and you can just re-enable it again (setting it to "both") once the installation is done. Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From steve at rileyz.net Tue May 28 21:36:21 2013 From: steve at rileyz.net (Steve Riley) Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 14:36:21 -0700 Subject: [13.04 64Bit] - Installation Fails On UEFI Grub Install ? In-Reply-To: References: <51A4CF17.2090202@GMail.com> Message-ID: <3370348.iSXrimnAPz@t520> On 2013-05-28 23:05:09 Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > > Hi Jesse, > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Jesse Palser > wrote: > > [13.04 64Bit] - Installation Fails On UEFI Grub Install ? > > > > Hi, > > > > I tried several times to install Kubuntu 13.04 64Bit on my desktop > > but it always fails on UEFI Grub installation? > > > > System is the following: > > - AMD FX 3.5GHz 8-Core CPU > > - Asus Sabertooth 990FX Gen2 Motherboard > > - 32GB DDR3 RAM > > - VisionTek AMD Radeon HD 7800 2GB GDDR5 Graphic Adapter > > - Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB HDD > > - DVD+/-RW Drive > > > > I boot from a DVD with Kubuntu 13.04 64Bit installation installed. > > Everything seems to work until the end where it crashes on UEFI Grub > > installation? > > (I thought UEFI BIOS was better supported by new 13.04?) > > > > Anyone know how to get this working on above desktop? > > Try setting the BIOS to "Legacy" boot options instead of "UEFI" for > the installation, that should do the trick. At least recent BIOS on > Lenovo laptops all have that option (I had to do that yesterday when I > reinstalled on an SSD in my laptop) and you can just re-enable it > again (setting it to "both") once the installation is done. > > > Regards, Myriam However, that process will leave the installed version of Kubuntu in BIOS emulation mode. It will not boot into UEFI mode. Most of the kernels in the 3.8 series have a problem in which they refuse to add UEFI NVRAM variables if the available space is reported to be less than 50%. This is to work around a serious bug in certain implementations that completely break some Samsung laptops. http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?62470 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1167622 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1173423 As you can tell by reading bug 1167622, commit 68d929862e29a8b52a7f2f2f86a0600423b093cd is the cause of the problem. Kernels built with this commit reverted (http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~jsalisbury/lp1173423/) work fine. Commit 31ff2f20d9003e74991d135f56e503fe776c127c is an attempt to get smarter about the 50% space issue. But kernels containing this commit (http://people.canonical.com/~jsalisbury/lp1173423/) are still failing. Unfortunately, until this gets fixed in the kernel and the ISOs are updated to include a fixed kernel, UEFI installs are going to break. We have many reports of this on the Kubuntu forum. ...Steve From stan10x10 at gmail.com Wed May 29 03:36:39 2013 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (Uriah Heep) Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 23:36:39 -0400 Subject: failed online update 12.10 to 13.04 black screen Message-ID: I have a basic Lenovo G580 laptop with and Intel I5 running at 2.5 GHz and except for adding a second four gig stick of memory I have not modified it. Video is handled by the I5. Of course, Windows 8 was installed though I would rather not have to pay for it. I installed Kubuntu 12.10 in a dual boot configuration and have been using it for three months without issue. I then did an online upgrade to Kubuntu 13.04. I rebooted the password screen came up, I entered my password hit enter, and now have a black screen with the exception of the mouse cursor. When experimenting hitting the print screen button brought up the screen capture program. From there I was able to get into Firefox on exiting Firefox I was again confronted with a black screen. After invoking screen copy again, I was able to get printscreen to show other areas such as root, grub, etc. Would anyone be able to suggest a way I could get my regular home screen back? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed May 29 03:46:34 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 05:46:34 +0200 Subject: failed online update 12.10 to 13.04 black screen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51A57A1A.2030105@gmail.com> On 29/05/2013 05:36, Uriah Heep wrote: > I have a basic Lenovo G580 laptop with and Intel I5 running at 2.5 GHz > and except for adding a second four gig stick of memory I have not > modified it. Video is handled by the I5. Of course, Windows 8 was > installed though I would rather not have to pay for it. I installed > Kubuntu 12.10 in a dual boot configuration and have been using it for > three months without issue. I then did an online upgrade to Kubuntu > 13.04. I rebooted the password screen came up, I entered my password > hit enter, and now have a black screen with the exception of the mouse > cursor. When experimenting hitting the print screen button brought up > the screen capture program. From there I was able to get into Firefox > on exiting Firefox I was again confronted with a black screen. After > invoking screen copy again, I was able to get printscreen to show other > areas such as root, grub, etc. > > Would anyone be able to suggest a way I could get my regular home screen > back? > > try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get a login prompt. If so, logon with normal username/password. Then run command startx and see what output you get From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Wed May 29 05:21:39 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 05:21:39 +0000 Subject: How to find Kubuntu Version # Message-ID: Hi All, I have installed Kubuntu some time back but NOT sure which version it is - possibly 11.10 or 10.04.04. uname --version command shows: ===================================================== ramesh at mozart:/$ uname --version uname (GNU coreutils) 8.5 Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later . This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Written by David MacKenzie. ramesh at mozart:/$ ===================================================== How is "GNU coreutils 8.5" correlated to kubuntu 11.10 or 10.04.04? Secondly is this info not somewhere under /etc directory? I can't, for the life of me, remember the file-name.. Thanks for any help. Ramesh Rao 937-434-6625 Dayton Ohio, 45458 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 29 05:42:21 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 07:42:21 +0200 Subject: How to find Kubuntu Version # In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4379124.JshaOIq8IW@p5915> Ramesh Rao wrote: > Hi All, > > I have installed Kubuntu some time back but NOT sure which version it > is - possibly 11.10 or 10.04.04. Try one of these commands lsb_release -a cat /etc/os-release Nils From stan10x10 at gmail.com Wed May 29 06:08:44 2013 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (Uriah Heep) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 02:08:44 -0400 Subject: failed online update 12.10 to 13.04 black screen In-Reply-To: <51A57A1A.2030105@gmail.com> References: <51A57A1A.2030105@gmail.com> Message-ID: try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get a login prompt. If so, logon with normal username/password. Then run command startx and see what output you get After my initial log in and black screen I did as you suggested and wound up on the cl. There were comments that I was using 13.04 and that there was a new release 1304 and the usual disclaimer that nothing was guaranteed. Assuming I am supposed to be at cl what do I need to enter to run comman startx? Thanks Uriah On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:46 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 29/05/2013 05:36, Uriah Heep wrote: > >> I have a basic Lenovo G580 laptop with and Intel I5 running at 2.5 GHz >> and except for adding a second four gig stick of memory I have not >> modified it. Video is handled by the I5. Of course, Windows 8 was >> installed though I would rather not have to pay for it. I installed >> Kubuntu 12.10 in a dual boot configuration and have been using it for >> three months without issue. I then did an online upgrade to Kubuntu >> 13.04. I rebooted the password screen came up, I entered my password >> hit enter, and now have a black screen with the exception of the mouse >> cursor. When experimenting hitting the print screen button brought up >> the screen capture program. From there I was able to get into Firefox >> on exiting Firefox I was again confronted with a black screen. After >> invoking screen copy again, I was able to get printscreen to show other >> areas such as root, grub, etc. >> >> Would anyone be able to suggest a way I could get my regular home screen >> back? >> >> >> try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get a login prompt. If so, > logon with normal username/password. Then run command startx and see what > output you get > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Wed May 29 06:35:44 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 06:35:44 +0000 Subject: How to find Kubuntu Version # In-Reply-To: <4379124.JshaOIq8IW@p5915> References: , <4379124.JshaOIq8IW@p5915> Message-ID: Thanks a lot Nils.. I appreciate. lsb_release cmd worked.. ramesh at mozart:/etc$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 11.10 Release: 11.10 Codename: oneiric Did not find /etc/os-release though. It should be somewhere.. Thanks all the same. Ramesh > From: kassube at gmx.net > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: How to find Kubuntu Version # > Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 07:42:21 +0200 > > Ramesh Rao wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I have installed Kubuntu some time back but NOT sure which version it > > is - possibly 11.10 or 10.04.04. > > Try one of these commands > > lsb_release -a > cat /etc/os-release > > > Nils > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If the standard repositories for 11.10 are already removed, you should change the server from *.archive.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com in the file /etc/apt/sources.list to make it work [3]. Nils [1] [2] [3] From basroufs at gmail.com Wed May 29 07:40:31 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 09:40:31 +0200 Subject: How to find Kubuntu Version # In-Reply-To: <4957915.NFHVDb9pp2@p5915> References: <4379124.JshaOIq8IW@p5915> <4957915.NFHVDb9pp2@p5915> Message-ID: Hello Ramesh, if I would be in your position, I would: + backup your data to an external HD; + fresh install 12.04 LTS or 13.04. Respectfully yours, Bas. Op 29 mei 2013 09:23 schreef "Nils Kassube" het volgende: > Ramesh Rao wrote: > > lsb_release cmd worked.. > > > > ramesh at mozart:/etc$ lsb_release -a > > No LSB modules are available. > > Distributor ID: Ubuntu > > Description: Ubuntu 11.10 > > Release: 11.10 > > Codename: oneiric > > > > Did not find /etc/os-release though. It should be somewhere.. > > I didn't know from when on the file /etc/os-release was included. That's > why I provided both commands, and obviously 11.10 doesn't have that > file. Then 12.04 is the first release which includes that file. > > Anyway, I'd like to mention that 11.10 has reached EOL [1] and it is > recommended to upgrade to a later version [2]. If the standard > repositories for 11.10 are already removed, you should change the > server from *.archive.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com in the file > /etc/apt/sources.list to make it work [3]. > > > Nils > > [1] < > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2013-May/000174.html> > [2] > [3] > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed May 29 07:47:53 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 09:47:53 +0200 Subject: failed online update 12.10 to 13.04 black screen In-Reply-To: References: <51A57A1A.2030105@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51A5B2A9.80106@gmail.com> On 29/05/2013 08:08, Uriah Heep wrote: > try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get a login prompt. If so, > logon with normal username/password. Then run command startx and see > what output you get > > > After my initial log in and black screen I did as you suggested and > wound up on the cl. There were comments that I was using 13.04 and that > there was a new release 1304 and the usual disclaimer that nothing was > guaranteed. Assuming I am supposed to be at cl what do I need to enter > to run comman startx? > Thanks Uriah > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:46 PM, O. Sinclair > wrote: > > On 29/05/2013 05:36, Uriah Heep wrote: > > I have a basic Lenovo G580 laptop with and Intel I5 running at > 2.5 GHz > and except for adding a second four gig stick of memory I have not > modified it. Video is handled by the I5. Of course, Windows 8 was > installed though I would rather not have to pay for it. I installed > Kubuntu 12.10 in a dual boot configuration and have been using > it for > three months without issue. I then did an online upgrade to Kubuntu > 13.04. I rebooted the password screen came up, I entered my > password > hit enter, and now have a black screen with the exception of the > mouse > cursor. When experimenting hitting the print screen button > brought up > the screen capture program. From there I was able to get into > Firefox > on exiting Firefox I was again confronted with a black screen. > After > invoking screen copy again, I was able to get printscreen to > show other > areas such as root, grub, etc. > > Would anyone be able to suggest a way I could get my regular > home screen > back? > > > try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get a login prompt. If > so, logon with normal username/password. Then run command startx and > see what output you get > just type startx and press enter you should either get a normal kde desktop or some error message From stan10x10 at gmail.com Wed May 29 08:41:40 2013 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (Uriah Heep) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 04:41:40 -0400 Subject: failed online update 12.10 to 13.04 black screen In-Reply-To: <51A5B2A9.80106@gmail.com> References: <51A57A1A.2030105@gmail.com> <51A5B2A9.80106@gmail.com> Message-ID: just type startx and press enter you should either get a normal kde desktop or some error message I got a box stating I had failed to load session gnome Prior to that about a paragraph that passed before I could blink. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:47 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 29/05/2013 08:08, Uriah Heep wrote: > >> try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get a login prompt. If so, >> logon with normal username/password. Then run command startx and see >> what output you get >> >> >> After my initial log in and black screen I did as you suggested and >> wound up on the cl. There were comments that I was using 13.04 and that >> there was a new release 1304 and the usual disclaimer that nothing was >> guaranteed. Assuming I am supposed to be at cl what do I need to enter >> to run comman startx? >> Thanks Uriah >> >> >> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:46 PM, O. Sinclair > > wrote: >> >> On 29/05/2013 05:36, Uriah Heep wrote: >> >> I have a basic Lenovo G580 laptop with and Intel I5 running at >> 2.5 GHz >> and except for adding a second four gig stick of memory I have not >> modified it. Video is handled by the I5. Of course, Windows 8 >> was >> installed though I would rather not have to pay for it. I >> installed >> Kubuntu 12.10 in a dual boot configuration and have been using >> it for >> three months without issue. I then did an online upgrade to >> Kubuntu >> 13.04. I rebooted the password screen came up, I entered my >> password >> hit enter, and now have a black screen with the exception of the >> mouse >> cursor. When experimenting hitting the print screen button >> brought up >> the screen capture program. From there I was able to get into >> Firefox >> on exiting Firefox I was again confronted with a black screen. >> After >> invoking screen copy again, I was able to get printscreen to >> show other >> areas such as root, grub, etc. >> >> Would anyone be able to suggest a way I could get my regular >> home screen >> back? >> >> >> try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get a login prompt. If >> so, logon with normal username/password. Then run command startx and >> see what output you get >> >> just type startx and press enter > > you should either get a normal kde desktop or some error message > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed May 29 08:55:52 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:55:52 +0200 Subject: failed online update 12.10 to 13.04 black screen In-Reply-To: References: <51A57A1A.2030105@gmail.com> <51A5B2A9.80106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51A5C298.60406@gmail.com> something has gone very wrong with your upgrade.. try these commands: sudo apt-get update (or aptitude if you prefer) sudo apt-get dist-upgrade hopefully that will complete your upgrade /Sinclair On 29/05/2013 10:41, Uriah Heep wrote: > just type startx and press enter > > you should either get a normal kde desktop or some error message > > I got a box stating I had failed to load session gnome > Prior to that about a paragraph that passed before I could blink. > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:47 AM, O. Sinclair > wrote: > > On 29/05/2013 08:08, Uriah Heep wrote: > > try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get a login > prompt. If so, > logon with normal username/password. Then run command startx and see > what output you get > > > After my initial log in and black screen I did as you suggested and > wound up on the cl. There were comments that I was using 13.04 > and that > there was a new release 1304 and the usual disclaimer that > nothing was > guaranteed. Assuming I am supposed to be at cl what do I need > to enter > to run comman startx? > Thanks Uriah > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:46 PM, O. Sinclair > > >> wrote: > > On 29/05/2013 05:36, Uriah Heep wrote: > > I have a basic Lenovo G580 laptop with and Intel I5 > running at > 2.5 GHz > and except for adding a second four gig stick of memory > I have not > modified it. Video is handled by the I5. Of course, > Windows 8 was > installed though I would rather not have to pay for it. > I installed > Kubuntu 12.10 in a dual boot configuration and have > been using > it for > three months without issue. I then did an online > upgrade to Kubuntu > 13.04. I rebooted the password screen came up, I > entered my > password > hit enter, and now have a black screen with the > exception of the > mouse > cursor. When experimenting hitting the print screen button > brought up > the screen capture program. From there I was able to > get into > Firefox > on exiting Firefox I was again confronted with a black > screen. > After > invoking screen copy again, I was able to get > printscreen to > show other > areas such as root, grub, etc. > > Would anyone be able to suggest a way I could get my > regular > home screen > back? > > > try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get a login > prompt. If > so, logon with normal username/password. Then run command > startx and > see what output you get > > just type startx and press enter > > you should either get a normal kde desktop or some error message > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/__mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > From gheskett at wdtv.com Wed May 29 14:46:58 2013 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:46:58 -0400 Subject: At wits end over holding a sticky setting in kmail Message-ID: <201305291046.58585.gheskett@wdtv.com> Greetings all; I have 3 email servers I can access for receiving, but only one to use for sending. Two of them are actually gmail as I have an account there, and I have an account at my ISP, which is in fact an alias for gmail for about the last year. Gmail, for some UNK reason stopped accepting my posts about 6 months back and I had to scramble around subbing to all my mailing lists thru a server at the tv station I retired from, and which I have lifetime privileges to use. But kmail, despite all the sticky settings, insists on using a random roll of the dice about 1% of the time as to which of these servers it will use to send. Obviously this is a pain in the ass that takes about an hour to fix because the poorly addressed message cannot be edited to fix it until it times out and allows the send to be aborted. Is there some file in kmail that I can set the immutable bit on to stop this errant behavior? While I'm at it, I'm like many, the virtuoso thing is killing me, and may after 14 years of kmail, force me to claws. The virtuoso database file, since my email corpus goes back 11 of those 14 years, is now up to 7.3 gigabytes and kmail apparently has to search the whole thing just to advance to the next unread msg. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: is up! My views "You have been in Afghanistan, I perceive." -- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, "A Study in Scarlet" A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed May 29 15:28:42 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 17:28:42 +0200 Subject: At wits end over holding a sticky setting in kmail In-Reply-To: <201305291046.58585.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201305291046.58585.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <51A61EAA.1000505@gmail.com> On 29/05/2013 16:46, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I have 3 email servers I can access for receiving, but only one to use for > sending. Two of them are actually gmail as I have an account there, and I > have an account at my ISP, which is in fact an alias for gmail for about > the last year. > > Gmail, for some UNK reason stopped accepting my posts about 6 months back > and I had to scramble around subbing to all my mailing lists thru a server > at the tv station I retired from, and which I have lifetime privileges to > use. > > But kmail, despite all the sticky settings, insists on using a random roll > of the dice about 1% of the time as to which of these servers it will use > to send. Obviously this is a pain in the ass that takes about an hour to > fix because the poorly addressed message cannot be edited to fix it until > it times out and allows the send to be aborted. > > Is there some file in kmail that I can set the immutable bit on to stop > this errant behavior? > I am not 100 I get you correct but you need to use only 1 smtp server regardless of "sending account"? Far from all smtp servers will accept you sending "from another domain" but if you have an smtp server like that you should only need to remove the others? From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 29 15:38:34 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 17:38:34 +0200 Subject: At wits end over holding a sticky setting in kmail In-Reply-To: <201305291046.58585.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201305291046.58585.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <3111592.IQQjv3hV6V@p5915> Gene Heskett wrote: > I have 3 email servers I can access for receiving, but only one to use > for sending. Two of them are actually gmail as I have an account > there, and I have an account at my ISP, which is in fact an alias for > gmail for about the last year. > > Gmail, for some UNK reason stopped accepting my posts about 6 months > back and I had to scramble around subbing to all my mailing lists > thru a server at the tv station I retired from, and which I have > lifetime privileges to use. > > But kmail, despite all the sticky settings, insists on using a random > roll of the dice about 1% of the time as to which of these servers it > will use to send. Obviously this is a pain in the ass that takes > about an hour to fix because the poorly addressed message cannot be > edited to fix it until it times out and allows the send to be > aborted. > > Is there some file in kmail that I can set the immutable bit on to > stop this errant behavior? I'm not sure in which file the settings are saved, but you can select the outgoing server at the identity settings of the kmail configuration. Nils From theuteck at gmail.com Wed May 29 15:45:26 2013 From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:45:26 -0500 Subject: At wits end over holding a sticky setting in kmail In-Reply-To: <3111592.IQQjv3hV6V@p5915> References: <201305291046.58585.gheskett@wdtv.com> <3111592.IQQjv3hV6V@p5915> Message-ID: You can also turn off mail indexing in the Akondi control settings. It stops search from working, but speeds up kmail. On May 29, 2013 10:40 AM, "Nils Kassube" wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > I have 3 email servers I can access for receiving, but only one to use > > for sending. Two of them are actually gmail as I have an account > > there, and I have an account at my ISP, which is in fact an alias for > > gmail for about the last year. > > > > Gmail, for some UNK reason stopped accepting my posts about 6 months > > back and I had to scramble around subbing to all my mailing lists > > thru a server at the tv station I retired from, and which I have > > lifetime privileges to use. > > > > But kmail, despite all the sticky settings, insists on using a random > > roll of the dice about 1% of the time as to which of these servers it > > will use to send. Obviously this is a pain in the ass that takes > > about an hour to fix because the poorly addressed message cannot be > > edited to fix it until it times out and allows the send to be > > aborted. > > > > Is there some file in kmail that I can set the immutable bit on to > > stop this errant behavior? > > I'm not sure in which file the settings are saved, but you can select > the outgoing server at the identity settings of the kmail configuration. > > > Nils > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Op 29 mei 2013 09:23 schreef "Nils Kassube" het volgende: Ramesh Rao wrote: > lsb_release cmd worked.. > > ramesh at mozart:/etc$ lsb_release -a > No LSB modules are available. > Distributor ID: Ubuntu > Description: Ubuntu 11.10 > Release: 11.10 > Codename: oneiric > > Did not find /etc/os-release though. It should be somewhere.. I didn't know from when on the file /etc/os-release was included. That's why I provided both commands, and obviously 11.10 doesn't have that file. Then 12.04 is the first release which includes that file. Anyway, I'd like to mention that 11.10 has reached EOL [1] and it is recommended to upgrade to a later version [2]. If the standard repositories for 11.10 are already removed, you should change the server from *.archive.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com in the file /etc/apt/sources.list to make it work [3]. Nils [1] [2] [3] -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Wed May 29 16:41:36 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 18:41:36 +0200 Subject: How to find Kubuntu Version # In-Reply-To: References: <4379124.JshaOIq8IW@p5915> <4957915.NFHVDb9pp2@p5915> Message-ID: Hello Ramesh, one more thing. A good backup package is "Lucky Backup". If you do not have that one, try to access the repository to get it: sudo apt-get install lucky backup. If this does not work, first follow Nils' advise for an upgrade to 12.04. Afterwords, install Lucky Backup, save your data and look for a convenient moment to carry out a fresh install of Kubuntu 13.04. In general, I carry out a fresh install twice a year. Good luck. Bas. Op 29 mei 2013 18:08 schreef "Ramesh Rao" het volgende: > Thanks both Nils and Bas. > > I will plan to upgrade ASAP. > > May I will have some issues, but based on my experience, I can bank on > help from this user group. > > Ramesh > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 09:40:31 +0200 > Subject: Re: How to find Kubuntu Version # > From: basroufs at gmail.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Hello Ramesh, > if I would be in your position, I would: > + backup your data to an external HD; > + fresh install 12.04 LTS or 13.04. > Respectfully yours, > Bas. > Op 29 mei 2013 09:23 schreef "Nils Kassube" het > volgende: > > Ramesh Rao wrote: > > lsb_release cmd worked.. > > > > ramesh at mozart:/etc$ lsb_release -a > > No LSB modules are available. > > Distributor ID: Ubuntu > > Description: Ubuntu 11.10 > > Release: 11.10 > > Codename: oneiric > > > > Did not find /etc/os-release though. It should be somewhere.. > > I didn't know from when on the file /etc/os-release was included. That's > why I provided both commands, and obviously 11.10 doesn't have that > file. Then 12.04 is the first release which includes that file. > > Anyway, I'd like to mention that 11.10 has reached EOL [1] and it is > recommended to upgrade to a later version [2]. If the standard > repositories for 11.10 are already removed, you should change the > server from *.archive.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com in the file > /etc/apt/sources.list to make it work [3]. > > > Nils > > [1] < > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2013-May/000174.html> > [2] > [3] > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify > settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 29 17:00:56 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 19:00:56 +0200 Subject: At wits end over holding a sticky setting in kmail In-Reply-To: References: <201305291046.58585.gheskett@wdtv.com> <3111592.IQQjv3hV6V@p5915> Message-ID: <2871163.C7Y8ysbedz@p5915> uteck wrote: > You can also turn off mail indexing in the Akondi control settings. It > stops search from working, but speeds up kmail. Well, searching doesn't work at all for me with Kmail2 (KDE 4.10.3). Therefore it seems to be a good idea to disable indexing. Thanks for the tip. Nils From gheskett at wdtv.com Wed May 29 17:39:11 2013 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 13:39:11 -0400 Subject: At wits end over holding a sticky setting in kmail In-Reply-To: <2871163.C7Y8ysbedz@p5915> References: <201305291046.58585.gheskett@wdtv.com> <2871163.C7Y8ysbedz@p5915> Message-ID: <201305291339.11856.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Wednesday 29 May 2013 13:32:31 Nils Kassube did opine: > uteck wrote: > > You can also turn off mail indexing in the Akondi control settings. It > > stops search from working, but speeds up kmail. > > Well, searching doesn't work at all for me with Kmail2 (KDE 4.10.3). > Therefore it seems to be a good idea to disable indexing. Thanks for the > tip. > > > Nils I am mulling over the other answers I have received, thank you all who replied. But this is 10.04-4 and I apparently do not have that particular utility. However, I am installing akonadiconsole to see if that is what I need. And I am 'stuck' with this version until such time as linuxcnc works with a newer kernel. That time is approaching, but not here yet. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: is up! My views There is no grief which time does not lessen and soften. A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Wed May 29 19:25:00 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 19:25:00 +0000 Subject: How to find Kubuntu Version # In-Reply-To: References: , <4379124.JshaOIq8IW@p5915>, , <4957915.NFHVDb9pp2@p5915>, , , Message-ID: Bas, I knew I could depend on people like you for help. Your spontaneous instructions and advice proves the point. My 11.10 version is a year old. I am skeptical about leading the pack. If 12.04 is stable and well tested, I guess I will tryout that. My Muon Package Manager shows that "luckybackup" is not installed. I will do so using Muon. Thanks again, Ramesh Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 18:41:36 +0200 Subject: RE: How to find Kubuntu Version # From: basroufs at gmail.com To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Hello Ramesh, one more thing. A good backup package is "Lucky Backup". If you do not have that one, try to access the repository to get it: sudo apt-get install lucky backup. If this does not work, first follow Nils' advise for an upgrade to 12.04. Afterwords, install Lucky Backup, save your data and look for a convenient moment to carry out a fresh install of Kubuntu 13.04. In general, I carry out a fresh install twice a year. Good luck. Bas. Op 29 mei 2013 18:08 schreef "Ramesh Rao" het volgende: Thanks both Nils and Bas. I will plan to upgrade ASAP. May I will have some issues, but based on my experience, I can bank on help from this user group. Ramesh Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 09:40:31 +0200 Subject: Re: How to find Kubuntu Version # From: basroufs at gmail.com To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Hello Ramesh, if I would be in your position, I would: + backup your data to an external HD; + fresh install 12.04 LTS or 13.04. Respectfully yours, Bas. Op 29 mei 2013 09:23 schreef "Nils Kassube" het volgende: Ramesh Rao wrote: > lsb_release cmd worked.. > > ramesh at mozart:/etc$ lsb_release -a > No LSB modules are available. > Distributor ID: Ubuntu > Description: Ubuntu 11.10 > Release: 11.10 > Codename: oneiric > > Did not find /etc/os-release though. It should be somewhere.. I didn't know from when on the file /etc/os-release was included. That's why I provided both commands, and obviously 11.10 doesn't have that file. Then 12.04 is the first release which includes that file. Anyway, I'd like to mention that 11.10 has reached EOL [1] and it is recommended to upgrade to a later version [2]. 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Nils From rayburke30 at gmail.com Wed May 29 20:05:32 2013 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 06:05:32 +1000 Subject: How to find Kubuntu Version # In-Reply-To: <1384888.urPrll2ES4@p5915> References: <1384888.urPrll2ES4@p5915> Message-ID: I agree with Nils ray On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Ramesh Rao wrote: > > My 11.10 version is a year old. I am skeptical about leading the pack. > > If 12.04 is stable and well tested, I guess I will tryout that. > > 12.04 is working well and it is LTS with 5 years support. OTOH the > support for the non-LTS versions will be reduced in the future (9 > months?). Therefore I prefer the LTS versions where I don't have to > adapt to new behaviour of the installed applications so often. > > > Nils > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valtermura at gmail.com Thu May 30 16:50:29 2013 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 18:50:29 +0200 Subject: Dependency problems In-Reply-To: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> References: <519C6B61.4060500@bigpond.com> Message-ID: Hi Try to make a check with apt-get Ciao -- Valter *Open Source is better!* KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org Il giorno 22/mag/2013 07:54, "Phil" ha scritto: > Thank you for reading this. > > I'm running into many dependency problems while trying to install several > different packages. 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URL: From stan10x10 at gmail.com Fri May 31 02:00:54 2013 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (Uriah Heep) Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 22:00:54 -0400 Subject: failed online update 12.10 to 13.04 black screen In-Reply-To: <51A5C298.60406@gmail.com> References: <51A57A1A.2030105@gmail.com> <51A5B2A9.80106@gmail.com> <51A5C298.60406@gmail.com> Message-ID: to Kubuntu something has gone very wrong with your upgrade.. try these commands: sudo apt-get update (or aptitude if you prefer) sudo apt-get dist-upgrade hopefully that will complete your upgrade /Sinclair Tried the above as well as another suggestion that appeared after booting to cl but still no joy. In all about 15 mb was installed.Anything further to try or is it time for a fresh install? . uriah On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:55 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > something has gone very wrong with your upgrade.. > > try these commands: > sudo apt-get update (or aptitude if you prefer) > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > > hopefully that will complete your upgrade > > /Sinclair > > > On 29/05/2013 10:41, Uriah Heep wrote: > >> just type startx and press enter >> >> you should either get a normal kde desktop or some error message >> >> I got a box stating I had failed to load session gnome >> Prior to that about a paragraph that passed before I could blink. >> >> >> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:47 AM, O. Sinclair > > wrote: >> >> On 29/05/2013 08:08, Uriah Heep wrote: >> >> try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get a login >> prompt. If so, >> logon with normal username/password. Then run command startx and >> see >> what output you get >> >> >> After my initial log in and black screen I did as you suggested >> and >> wound up on the cl. There were comments that I was using 13.04 >> and that >> there was a new release 1304 and the usual disclaimer that >> nothing was >> guaranteed. Assuming I am supposed to be at cl what do I need >> to enter >> to run comman startx? >> Thanks Uriah >> >> >> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:46 PM, O. Sinclair >> >> >**> >> wrote: >> >> On 29/05/2013 05:36, Uriah Heep wrote: >> >> I have a basic Lenovo G580 laptop with and Intel I5 >> running at >> 2.5 GHz >> and except for adding a second four gig stick of memory >> I have not >> modified it. Video is handled by the I5. Of course, >> Windows 8 was >> installed though I would rather not have to pay for it. >> I installed >> Kubuntu 12.10 in a dual boot configuration and have >> been using >> it for >> three months without issue. I then did an online >> upgrade to Kubuntu >> 13.04. I rebooted the password screen came up, I >> entered my >> password >> hit enter, and now have a black screen with the >> exception of the >> mouse >> cursor. When experimenting hitting the print screen >> button >> brought up >> the screen capture program. From there I was able to >> get into >> Firefox >> on exiting Firefox I was again confronted with a black >> screen. >> After >> invoking screen copy again, I was able to get >> printscreen to >> show other >> areas such as root, grub, etc. >> >> Would anyone be able to suggest a way I could get my >> regular >> home screen >> back? >> >> >> try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get a login >> prompt. If >> so, logon with normal username/password. Then run command >> startx and >> see what output you get >> >> just type startx and press enter >> >> you should either get a normal kde desktop or some error message >> >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > ubuntu.com > >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/__**mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> **> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri May 31 04:19:02 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 06:19:02 +0200 Subject: failed online update 12.10 to 13.04 black screen In-Reply-To: References: <51A57A1A.2030105@gmail.com> <51A5B2A9.80106@gmail.com> <51A5C298.60406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51A824B6.80502@gmail.com> On 31/05/2013 04:00, Uriah Heep wrote: > to Kubuntu > something has gone very wrong with your upgrade.. > > try these commands: > sudo apt-get update (or aptitude if you prefer) > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > > hopefully that will complete your upgrade > > /Sinclair > > Tried the above as well as another suggestion that appeared after > booting to cl but still no joy. In all about 15 mb was > installed.Anything further to try or is it time for a fresh install? > . > uriah > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:55 AM, O. Sinclair > wrote: > > something has gone very wrong with your upgrade.. > > try these commands: > sudo apt-get update (or aptitude if you prefer) > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > > hopefully that will complete your upgrade > > /Sinclair > > > On 29/05/2013 10:41, Uriah Heep wrote: > > just type startx and press enter > > you should either get a normal kde desktop or some error message > > I got a box stating I had failed to load session gnome > Prior to that about a paragraph that passed before I could blink. > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:47 AM, O. Sinclair > > >> wrote: > > On 29/05/2013 08:08, Uriah Heep wrote: > > try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get a login > prompt. If so, > logon with normal username/password. Then run command > startx and see > what output you get > > > After my initial log in and black screen I did as you > suggested and > wound up on the cl. There were comments that I was > using 13.04 > and that > there was a new release 1304 and the usual disclaimer that > nothing was > guaranteed. Assuming I am supposed to be at cl what do > I need > to enter > to run comman startx? > Thanks Uriah > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:46 PM, O. Sinclair > > > > >>__> wrote: > > On 29/05/2013 05:36, Uriah Heep wrote: > > I have a basic Lenovo G580 laptop with and > Intel I5 > running at > 2.5 GHz > and except for adding a second four gig stick > of memory > I have not > modified it. Video is handled by the I5. Of > course, > Windows 8 was > installed though I would rather not have to > pay for it. > I installed > Kubuntu 12.10 in a dual boot configuration and > have > been using > it for > three months without issue. I then did an online > upgrade to Kubuntu > 13.04. I rebooted the password screen came up, I > entered my > password > hit enter, and now have a black screen with the > exception of the > mouse > cursor. When experimenting hitting the print > screen button > brought up > the screen capture program. From there I was > able to > get into > Firefox > on exiting Firefox I was again confronted with > a black > screen. > After > invoking screen copy again, I was able to get > printscreen to > show other > areas such as root, grub, etc. > > Would anyone be able to suggest a way I could > get my > regular > home screen > back? > > > try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get > a login > prompt. If > so, logon with normal username/password. Then run > command > startx and > see what output you get > > just type startx and press enter > > you should either get a normal kde desktop or some error > message > If I were you I would backup user data and go for a fresh installation From stan10x10 at gmail.com Fri May 31 04:45:29 2013 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (Uriah Heep) Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 00:45:29 -0400 Subject: failed online update 12.10 to 13.04 black screen In-Reply-To: <51A824B6.80502@gmail.com> References: <51A57A1A.2030105@gmail.com> <51A5B2A9.80106@gmail.com> <51A5C298.60406@gmail.com> <51A824B6.80502@gmail.com> Message-ID: Did backup prior to attempted upgrade thanks for your time and assistance. Uriah On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:19 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 31/05/2013 04:00, Uriah Heep wrote: > >> to Kubuntu >> >> something has gone very wrong with your upgrade.. >> >> try these commands: >> sudo apt-get update (or aptitude if you prefer) >> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade >> >> hopefully that will complete your upgrade >> >> /Sinclair >> >> Tried the above as well as another suggestion that appeared after >> booting to cl but still no joy. In all about 15 mb was >> installed.Anything further to try or is it time for a fresh install? >> >> >> . >> uriah >> >> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:55 AM, O. Sinclair > > wrote: >> >> something has gone very wrong with your upgrade.. >> >> try these commands: >> sudo apt-get update (or aptitude if you prefer) >> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade >> >> hopefully that will complete your upgrade >> >> /Sinclair >> >> >> On 29/05/2013 10:41, Uriah Heep wrote: >> >> just type startx and press enter >> >> you should either get a normal kde desktop or some error message >> >> I got a box stating I had failed to load session gnome >> Prior to that about a paragraph that passed before I could blink. >> >> >> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:47 AM, O. Sinclair >> >> >**> >> wrote: >> >> On 29/05/2013 08:08, Uriah Heep wrote: >> >> try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get a login >> prompt. If so, >> logon with normal username/password. Then run command >> startx and see >> what output you get >> >> >> After my initial log in and black screen I did as you >> suggested and >> wound up on the cl. There were comments that I was >> using 13.04 >> and that >> there was a new release 1304 and the usual disclaimer >> that >> nothing was >> guaranteed. Assuming I am supposed to be at cl what do >> I need >> to enter >> to run comman startx? >> Thanks Uriah >> >> >> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:46 PM, O. Sinclair >> >> > >> > > >**>__> wrote: >> >> On 29/05/2013 05:36, Uriah Heep wrote: >> >> I have a basic Lenovo G580 laptop with and >> Intel I5 >> running at >> 2.5 GHz >> and except for adding a second four gig stick >> of memory >> I have not >> modified it. Video is handled by the I5. Of >> course, >> Windows 8 was >> installed though I would rather not have to >> pay for it. >> I installed >> Kubuntu 12.10 in a dual boot configuration and >> have >> been using >> it for >> three months without issue. I then did an >> online >> upgrade to Kubuntu >> 13.04. I rebooted the password screen came up, >> I >> entered my >> password >> hit enter, and now have a black screen with the >> exception of the >> mouse >> cursor. When experimenting hitting the print >> screen button >> brought up >> the screen capture program. From there I was >> able to >> get into >> Firefox >> on exiting Firefox I was again confronted with >> a black >> screen. >> After >> invoking screen copy again, I was able to get >> printscreen to >> show other >> areas such as root, grub, etc. >> >> Would anyone be able to suggest a way I could >> get my >> regular >> home screen >> back? >> >> >> try pressing ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 and see if you get >> a login >> prompt. If >> so, logon with normal username/password. Then run >> command >> startx and >> see what output you get >> >> just type startx and press enter >> >> you should either get a normal kde desktop or some error >> message >> >> If I were you I would backup user data and go for a fresh installation > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Fri May 31 13:16:46 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas G. Roufs - En.) Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 15:16:46 +0200 Subject: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla : a golden combination for web page editing. Message-ID: <3878424.Fpy0nQO2yU@viaconsensus-home> Hello Christoph and Everybody. This is a good moment to shortly evaluate a golden combination for web page editing: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla. At present, I am using "BlueGriffon"as well as "Kate" more and more for web page editing - now via the platform "Kubuntu 13.04", along with "KDE 4.10.2. Last week, the new version BlueGriffon 1.7 came in via an update. I am really happy that this package is being maintained so well and frequently - the package has really become better and better ever since I started using it. In fact, "BlueGriffon" popped up for me just in time. A similar package is "Kompozer" - however, that one is not being maintained any more ever since about 2010. Also "Quanta Plus" is not available any more. Internet pages I used to maintain with Kompozer, contained several little mistakes I discovered and took away with "BlueGriffon". A very useful feature of the latter package consists of several possibilities to identify and correct mistakes in the HTML coding of a web page. By example - tags are red, as long as something is missing (e.g.. an -tag) or incorrect, turn blue when you are on the good way when typing codes, and finally become green when everything is correct and complete. Moreover, if some specific important code is missing somewhere after editing a page, BlueGriffon suggests which missing code to exactly bring in where. A few months ago, I reported a bug because of which it is not possible to immediately open a local .html file. When trying to do so, BlueGriffon does start, but does not open the file. That's why, for the time being, I use a simple "workaround": , I open local .html files via BlueGriffon itself. At some quiet moment, Christoph, I will try out your suggestions in this context and report my experience afterwords. In this context, BlueGriffon has another useful feature. It opens in tabs the html pages of the latest session: under the condition that you leave those pages in open tabs, while quitting the package. "Kate" I use as a very useful auxiliary package - for typing code, for copy -pasting specific bunches of code to other pages, etc... I also use it to open and edit .css files. When editing a .html page, I get a kind of colour feedback similar to that in BlueGriffon. Yesterday the two window system in the Firefox add-on "FireFTP" broke down because of a reason I still do not understand. That's why, I have tried "FileZilla" for remote file transfer purposes - I am really satisfied about it. It works much better then "FireFTP". Especially when uploading a large quantity of updated web files, "FileZilla" works simply excellently. Respectfully yours, Bas G. Roufs. */Bas G. Roufs MA/* Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com[1]; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 13.04, see kubuntu.org[2] .Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu -------- [1] mailto:BasRoufs at gmail.com [2] http://kubuntu.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bm_witness at yahoo.com Fri May 31 21:00:50 2013 From: bm_witness at yahoo.com (BRM) Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 14:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Forcing VGA video on for nVidia nv50 (Lenovo T61p) Message-ID: <1370034050.88246.YahooMailNeo@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I have a Lenovo T61p system that I have been running with Linux for several years now. It generally works great, and the latest KDE releases make things really slick, with one exception... I use it in dual monitor mode regularly with the LCD screen and a DVI screen; but I need to use the VGA port for some presentations now, but... If I plug a monitor into the VGA port, it announces itself via EDID, is picked up, and KDE's Quick Display manager finds it and works. However, I have a projector that doesn't seem announce itself via EDID on its VGA (it's old - Mitsubishi XL1U); so KDE Quick Display manager won't add the VGA-1 as an option to enable. Xorg doesn't see it, so no surprise KDE doesn't either. I'm using the nouveau driver as Kubuntu uses it out of the box, which uses KMS as far as I can tell. Is there any way to force the driver to enable the VGA so I can use the projector with this laptop? DDCcontrol seems to be out of date, no longer supported, and doesn't list 'nouveau' driver at all. And the nv50 (according to get-edid) doesn't support DDC1 or DDC2. Still, there ought to be a way to force the output on, no? TIA, Ben -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: