From tuxmario.detreb at gmail.com Sat Jun 1 09:32:55 2013 From: tuxmario.detreb at gmail.com (TuxMario DeTreb) Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2013 11:32:55 +0200 Subject: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla : a golden combination for web page editing. In-Reply-To: <3878424.Fpy0nQO2yU@viaconsensus-home> References: <3878424.Fpy0nQO2yU@viaconsensus-home> Message-ID: <51A9BFC7.1060905@gmail.com> Le 31/05/2013 15:16, Bas G. Roufs - En. a écrit : > > Hello Christoph and Everybody. > > This is a good moment to shortly evaluate a golden combination for web > page editing: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla. > > At present, I am using "BlueGriffon"as well as "Kate" more and more > for web page editing - now via the platform "Kubuntu 13.04", along > with "KDE 4.10.2. > > Last week, the new version BlueGriffon 1.7 came in via an update. I am > really happy that this package is being maintained so well and > frequently - the package has really become better and better ever > since I started using it. In fact, "BlueGriffon" popped up for me just > in time. A similar package is "Kompozer" - however, that one is not > being maintained any more ever since about 2010. Also "Quanta Plus" is > not available any more. Internet pages I used to maintain with > Kompozer, contained several little mistakes I discovered and took away > with "BlueGriffon". A very useful feature of the latter package > consists of several possibilities to identify and correct mistakes in > the HTML coding of a web page. By example - tags are red, as long > as something is missing (e.g.. an -tag) or incorrect, turn blue > when you are on the good way when typing codes, and finally become > green when everything is correct and complete. Moreover, if some > specific important code is missing somewhere after editing a page, > BlueGriffon suggests which missing code to exactly bring in where. > > A few months ago, I reported a bug because of which it is not possible > to immediately open a local .html file. When trying to do so, > BlueGriffon does start, but does not open the file. That's why, for > the time being, I use a simple "workaround": , I open local .html > files via BlueGriffon itself. At some quiet moment, Christoph, I will > try out your suggestions in this context and report my experience > afterwords. > > In this context, BlueGriffon has another useful feature. It opens in > tabs the html pages of the latest session: under the condition that > you leave those pages in open tabs, while quitting the package. > > "Kate" I use as a very useful auxiliary package - for typing code, for > copy -pasting specific bunches of code to other pages, etc... I also > use it to open and edit .css files. When editing a .html page, I get a > kind of colour feedback similar to that in BlueGriffon. > > Yesterday the two window system in the Firefox add-on "FireFTP" broke > down because of a reason I still do not understand. That's why, I have > tried "FileZilla" for remote file transfer purposes - I am really > satisfied about it. It works much better then "FireFTP". Especially > when uploading a large quantity of updated web files, "FileZilla" > works simply excellently. > > Respectfully yours, > > Bas G. Roufs. > > > -- > > Bas G. Roufs MA > > Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht > > E. BasRoufs at gmail.com ; Mob. +31 6 446 835 > 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. > > Open source OS: Kubuntu 13.04, see kubuntu.org . > Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; > RainbowGathering.eu > > > Hello Everybody I use BlueGriffon, BlueFish and Kate for web page edition and gFtp for site updating Today i tried to upgrade my BlueGriffon (I was using 1.5.2) and I reached a problem. When I start the new release i get the message : *Your BlueGriffon profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible* What i have done * I renamed my old release (mv bluegriffon bluegriffonOLD) * I removed the Griffon profil directory (rm -R .disruptive\ innovations\ sarl ) * I downloaded the new compressed tar file (bluegriffon-1.7.Ubuntu13.04-x86_64.tar.bz2) I'm running Kubuntu 13.04 64bits * I ran tar command ( tar jxvf bluegriffon-1.7.Ubuntu13.04-x86_64.tar.bz2) * I started bluegriffon ( ./bluegriffon/bluegriffon) and got a pop up window with the error message NB : All files and directories belong to my home user/group Any help is welcome Regards : TuxMario -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Sat Jun 1 10:11:38 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 12:11:38 +0200 Subject: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla : a golden combination for web page editing. In-Reply-To: <51A9BFC7.1060905@gmail.com> References: <3878424.Fpy0nQO2yU@viaconsensus-home> <51A9BFC7.1060905@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello TuxMario, Here is my advise for you. 1. Completely UNinstall the BlueGriffon package you have now in your system. 2. Check your software sources. 3. Install BlueGriffon 1.7 via the GetDeb.net repository. Step 1. Completely UNintall... ====================== Try the following commandline command: apt-get purge BlueGriffon. I am not sure whether this will work in case you have installed BlueGriffon directly from it's website. In that case, try to do so via Muon or via the Uninstall option from BlueGriffon itself. Step 2. Check your software sources. =========================== Did you already add GetDeb.net to your software sources? (See: Muon > settings.) If not, go to the GetDeb.net instruction page: http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/13.04#how_to_install Add the GetDeb repository via the "getdeb package" you can download from that page - see nr. 1. Or add that repository manually: see nr. 2. STEP 3. Install BlueGriffon 1.7. ======================= FORGET about the steps mentioned under nr. 3, 4 and 5 at the GetDeb.net instruction page. Instead, simply install BlueGriffon via Muon package manager. Give in "BlueGriffon" in the search window. You will see BlueGriffon and BlueGriffon-data popping up. Install both packages. !! The commandline install does not work in this case!! Respectfully yours, Bas. 2013/6/1 TuxMario DeTreb > > Le 31/05/2013 15:16, Bas G. Roufs - En. a écrit : > > Hello Christoph and Everybody. > > > > This is a good moment to shortly evaluate a golden combination for web > page editing: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla. > > > > At present, I am using "BlueGriffon"as well as "Kate" more and more for > web page editing - now via the platform "Kubuntu 13.04", along with "KDE > 4.10.2. > > > > Last week, the new version BlueGriffon 1.7 came in via an update. I am > really happy that this package is being maintained so well and frequently - > the package has really become better and better ever since I started using > it. In fact, "BlueGriffon" popped up for me just in time. A similar package > is "Kompozer" - however, that one is not being maintained any more ever > since about 2010. Also "Quanta Plus" is not available any more. Internet > pages I used to maintain with Kompozer, contained several little mistakes I > discovered and took away with "BlueGriffon". A very useful feature of the > latter package consists of several possibilities to identify and correct > mistakes in the HTML coding of a web page. By example - tags are red, > as long as something is missing (e.g.. an -tag) or incorrect, turn > blue when you are on the good way when typing codes, and finally become > green when everything is correct and complete. Moreover, if some specific > important code is missing somewhere after editing a page, BlueGriffon > suggests which missing code to exactly bring in where. > > > > A few months ago, I reported a bug because of which it is not possible to > immediately open a local .html file. When trying to do so, BlueGriffon does > start, but does not open the file. That's why, for the time being, I use a > simple "workaround": , I open local .html files via BlueGriffon itself. At > some quiet moment, Christoph, I will try out your suggestions in this > context and report my experience afterwords. > > > > In this context, BlueGriffon has another useful feature. It opens in tabs > the html pages of the latest session: under the condition that you leave > those pages in open tabs, while quitting the package. > > > > "Kate" I use as a very useful auxiliary package - for typing code, for > copy -pasting specific bunches of code to other pages, etc... I also use it > to open and edit .css files. When editing a .html page, I get a kind of > colour feedback similar to that in BlueGriffon. > > > > Yesterday the two window system in the Firefox add-on "FireFTP" broke down > because of a reason I still do not understand. That's why, I have tried > "FileZilla" for remote file transfer purposes - I am really satisfied about > it. It works much better then "FireFTP". Especially when uploading a large > quantity of updated web files, "FileZilla" works simply excellently. > > > > Respectfully yours, > > > > Bas G. Roufs. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bas G. Roufs MA > > Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht > > E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. > > Open source OS: Kubuntu 13.04, see kubuntu.org . > Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; > RainbowGathering.eu > > > > Hello Everybody > > I use BlueGriffon, BlueFish and Kate for web page edition and gFtp for > site updating > Today i tried to upgrade my BlueGriffon (I was using 1.5.2) and I reached > a problem. > > When I start the new release i get the message : *Your BlueGriffon > profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible* > > What i have done > > - I renamed my old release (mv bluegriffon bluegriffonOLD) > - I removed the Griffon profil directory (rm -R .disruptive\ > innovations\ sarl ) > - I downloaded the new compressed tar file > (bluegriffon-1.7.Ubuntu13.04-x86_64.tar.bz2) I'm running Kubuntu 13.04 > 64bits > - I ran tar command ( tar jxvf > bluegriffon-1.7.Ubuntu13.04-x86_64.tar.bz2) > - I started bluegriffon ( ./bluegriffon/bluegriffon) and got a pop up > window with the error message > > NB : All files and directories belong to my home user/group > > Any help is welcome > > Regards : TuxMario > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- drs. Bas G. Roufs Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Sat Jun 1 10:15:56 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 12:15:56 +0200 Subject: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla : a golden combination for web page editing. In-Reply-To: <51A9BFC7.1060905@gmail.com> References: <3878424.Fpy0nQO2yU@viaconsensus-home> <51A9BFC7.1060905@gmail.com> Message-ID: PS. Question for you, TuxMario. What exactly does "BlueFish" add to "Kate" . As far as I can see, both packages are quite similar. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tuxmario.detreb at gmail.com Sat Jun 1 12:01:27 2013 From: tuxmario.detreb at gmail.com (TuxMario DeTreb) Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2013 14:01:27 +0200 Subject: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla : a golden combination for web page editing. In-Reply-To: References: <3878424.Fpy0nQO2yU@viaconsensus-home> <51A9BFC7.1060905@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51A9E297.50001@gmail.com> Hello Bas Roufs BlueFish is an HTML editor that i use alternatively with BlueGriffon ( http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html ) Kate is used only for most simple modifications Regards : TuxMario Le 01/06/2013 12:15, Bas Roufs a écrit : > PS. Question for you, TuxMario. What exactly does "BlueFish" add to > "Kate" . As far as I can see, both packages are quite similar. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Sat Jun 1 13:44:13 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 15:44:13 +0200 Subject: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla : a golden combination for web page editing. In-Reply-To: <51A9E297.50001@gmail.com> References: <3878424.Fpy0nQO2yU@viaconsensus-home> <51A9BFC7.1060905@gmail.com> <51A9E297.50001@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Tuxmario, thanks for your advise. I will give "Bluefish" a try. Respectfully yours, Bas. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tuxmario.detreb at gmail.com Sun Jun 2 08:26:04 2013 From: tuxmario.detreb at gmail.com (TuxMario DeTreb) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:26:04 +0200 Subject: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla : a golden combination for web page editing. In-Reply-To: References: <3878424.Fpy0nQO2yU@viaconsensus-home> <51A9BFC7.1060905@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51AB019C.8010804@gmail.com> Hello Bas Thanks a lot for your answers ... but the issue still exist 1. I removed my local installation (BlueGriffon was installed in my Home directory) : /rm -rf ~/bluegriffon/ 2. I removed BlueGriffon working directory : /rm -rf .disruptive\ innovations\ sarl/ 3. I confirmed that BlueGriffon is not installed by trying to remove it : /sudo apt-get purge bluegriffon/ 4. I cleaned my installation : /sudo apt-get autoremove/ 5. I used Muon to install BlueGriffon (repository GetDeb was active) (2 packets were installet (bluegriffon and bluegriffon-data)) 6. I checked availability of BlueGriffon (/which bluegriffon/ ==> /usr/bin/bluegriffon 7. I logout and logon 8. I started bluegriffon : /bluegriffon/ 9. and the error message still pop up (*Your BlueGriffon profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible*) Console was (process:13687): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion `sys_page_size == 0' failed Error: Access was denied while trying to open files in your profile directory. Any other ideas are welcome Respectfully yours :TuxMario Le 01/06/2013 12:11, Bas Roufs a écrit : > Hello TuxMario, > > Here is my advise for you. > 1. Completely UNinstall the BlueGriffon package you have now in your > system. > 2. Check your software sources. > 3. Install BlueGriffon 1.7 via the GetDeb.net repository. > > Step 1. Completely UNintall... > ====================== > Try the following commandline command: apt-get purge BlueGriffon. > I am not sure whether this will work in case you have installed > BlueGriffon directly from it's website. In that case, try to do so via > Muon or via the Uninstall option from BlueGriffon itself. > > Step 2. Check your software sources. > =========================== > Did you already add GetDeb.net to your software sources? (See: Muon > > settings.) If not, go to the GetDeb.net instruction page: > http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/13.04#how_to_install > Add the GetDeb repository via the "getdeb package" you can download > from that page - see nr. 1. Or add that repository manually: see nr. 2. > > STEP 3. Install BlueGriffon 1.7. > ======================= > FORGET about the steps mentioned under nr. 3, 4 and 5 at the > GetDeb.net instruction page. Instead, simply install BlueGriffon via > Muon package manager. Give in "BlueGriffon" in the search window. You > will see BlueGriffon and BlueGriffon-data popping up. Install both > packages. > !! The commandline install does not work in this case!! > > Respectfully yours, > Bas. > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/1 TuxMario DeTreb > > > > Le 31/05/2013 15:16, Bas G. Roufs - En. a écrit : >> >> Hello Christoph and Everybody. >> >> This is a good moment to shortly evaluate a golden combination >> for web page editing: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla. >> >> At present, I am using "BlueGriffon"as well as "Kate" more and >> more for web page editing - now via the platform "Kubuntu 13.04", >> along with "KDE 4.10.2. >> >> Last week, the new version BlueGriffon 1.7 came in via an update. >> I am really happy that this package is being maintained so well >> and frequently - the package has really become better and better >> ever since I started using it. In fact, "BlueGriffon" popped up >> for me just in time. A similar package is "Kompozer" - however, >> that one is not being maintained any more ever since about 2010. >> Also "Quanta Plus" is not available any more. Internet pages I >> used to maintain with Kompozer, contained several little mistakes >> I discovered and took away with "BlueGriffon". A very useful >> feature of the latter package consists of several possibilities >> to identify and correct mistakes in the HTML coding of a web >> page. By example - tags are red, as long as something is >> missing (e.g.. an -tag) or incorrect, turn blue when you are >> on the good way when typing codes, and finally become green when >> everything is correct and complete. Moreover, if some specific >> important code is missing somewhere after editing a page, >> BlueGriffon suggests which missing code to exactly bring in where. >> >> A few months ago, I reported a bug because of which it is not >> possible to immediately open a local .html file. When trying to >> do so, BlueGriffon does start, but does not open the file. That's >> why, for the time being, I use a simple "workaround": , I open >> local .html files via BlueGriffon itself. At some quiet moment, >> Christoph, I will try out your suggestions in this context and >> report my experience afterwords. >> >> In this context, BlueGriffon has another useful feature. It opens >> in tabs the html pages of the latest session: under the condition >> that you leave those pages in open tabs, while quitting the package. >> >> "Kate" I use as a very useful auxiliary package - for typing >> code, for copy -pasting specific bunches of code to other pages, >> etc... I also use it to open and edit .css files. When editing a >> .html page, I get a kind of colour feedback similar to that in >> BlueGriffon. >> >> Yesterday the two window system in the Firefox add-on "FireFTP" >> broke down because of a reason I still do not understand. That's >> why, I have tried "FileZilla" for remote file transfer purposes - >> I am really satisfied about it. It works much better then >> "FireFTP". Especially when uploading a large quantity of updated >> web files, "FileZilla" works simply excellently. >> >> Respectfully yours, >> >> Bas G. Roufs. >> >> >> -- >> >> Bas G. Roufs MA >> >> Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht >> >> E. BasRoufs at gmail.com ; Mob. +31 6 446 >> 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. >> >> Open source OS: Kubuntu 13.04, see kubuntu.org . >> Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; >> RainbowGathering.eu >> >> >> > > Hello Everybody > > I use BlueGriffon, BlueFish and Kate for web page edition and > gFtp for site updating > Today i tried to upgrade my BlueGriffon (I was using 1.5.2) and I > reached a problem. > > When I start the new release i get the message : *Your BlueGriffon > profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible* > > What i have done > > * I renamed my old release (mv bluegriffon bluegriffonOLD) > * I removed the Griffon profil directory (rm -R .disruptive\ > innovations\ sarl ) > * I downloaded the new compressed tar file > (bluegriffon-1.7.Ubuntu13.04-x86_64.tar.bz2) I'm running > Kubuntu 13.04 64bits > * I ran tar command ( tar jxvf > bluegriffon-1.7.Ubuntu13.04-x86_64.tar.bz2) > * I started bluegriffon ( ./bluegriffon/bluegriffon) and got a > pop up window with the error message > > NB : All files and directories belong to my home user/group > > Any help is welcome > > Regards : TuxMario > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > -- > > drs. Bas G. Roufs > > Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht > > E. BasRoufs at gmail.com ; Mob. +31 6 446 835 > 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. > > Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . > Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; > RainbowGathering.eu . > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yasarcay at windowslive.com Sun Jun 2 11:26:43 2013 From: yasarcay at windowslive.com (=?utf-8?B?eWHFn2FyIMOnYXk=?=) Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 14:26:43 +0300 Subject: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla : a golden combination for web page editing. In-Reply-To: <51AB019C.8010804@gmail.com> References: <3878424.Fpy0nQO2yU@viaconsensus-home> <51AB019C.8010804@gmail.com> Message-ID: 02 Haziran 2013 Pazar 10:26:04 tarihinde TuxMario DeTreb şöyle yazmıştı: Hello Bas Thanks a lot for your answers ... but the issue still exist I removed my local installation (BlueGriffon was installed in my Home directory) : rm -rf ~/bluegriffon I removed BlueGriffon working directory : rm -rf .disruptive\ innovations\ sarl I confirmed that BlueGriffon is not installed by trying to remove it : sudo apt- get purge bluegriffon I cleaned my installation : sudo apt-get autoremove I used Muon to install BlueGriffon (repository GetDeb was active) (2 packets were installet (bluegriffon and bluegriffon-data)) I checked availability of BlueGriffon (which bluegriffon ==> /usr/bin/bluegriffon I logout and logon I started bluegriffon : bluegriffon and the error message still pop up (Your BlueGriffon profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible) Console was (process:13687): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion `sys_page_size == 0' failed Error: Access was denied while trying to open files in your profile directory. Any other ideas are welcome Respectfully yours :TuxMario Le 01/06/2013 12:11, Bas Roufs a écrit : Hello TuxMario, Here is my advise for you. 1. Completely UNinstall the BlueGriffon package you have now in your system. 2. Check your software sources. 3. Install BlueGriffon 1.7 via the GetDeb.net repository. Step 1. Completely UNintall... ====================== Try the following commandline command: apt-get purge BlueGriffon. I am not sure whether this will work in case you have installed BlueGriffon directly from it's website. In that case, try to do so via Muon or via the Uninstall option from BlueGriffon itself. Step 2. Check your software sources. =========================== Did you already add GetDeb.net to your software sources? (See: Muon > settings.) If not, go to the GetDeb.net instruction page: http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/13.04#how_to_install Add the GetDeb repository via the "getdeb package" you can download from that page - see nr. 1. Or add that repository manually: see nr. 2. STEP 3. Install BlueGriffon 1.7. ======================= FORGET about the steps mentioned under nr. 3, 4 and 5 at the GetDeb.net instruction page. Instead, simply install BlueGriffon via Muon package manager. Give in "BlueGriffon" in the search window. You will see BlueGriffon and BlueGriffon-data popping up. Install both packages. !! The commandline install does not work in this case!! Respectfully yours, Bas. 2013/6/1 TuxMario DeTreb Le 31/05/2013 15:16, Bas G. Roufs - En. a écrit : Hello Christoph and Everybody. This is a good moment to shortly evaluate a golden combination for web page editing: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla. At present, I am using "BlueGriffon"as well as "Kate" more and more for web page editing - now via the platform "Kubuntu 13.04", along with "KDE 4.10.2. Last week, the new version BlueGriffon 1.7 came in via an update. I am really happy that this package is being maintained so well and frequently - the package has really become better and better ever since I started using it. In fact, "BlueGriffon" popped up for me just in time. A similar package is "Kompozer" - however, that one is not being maintained any more ever since about 2010. Also "Quanta Plus" is not available any more. Internet pages I used to maintain with Kompozer, contained several little mistakes I discovered and took away with "BlueGriffon". A very useful feature of the latter package consists of several possibilities to identify and correct mistakes in the HTML coding of a web page. By example - tags are red, as long as something is missing (e.g.. an -tag) or incorrect, turn blue when you are on the good way when typing codes, and finally become green when everything is correct and complete. Moreover, if some specific important code is missing somewhere after editing a page, BlueGriffon suggests which missing code to exactly bring in where. A few months ago, I reported a bug because of which it is not possible to immediately open a local .html file. When trying to do so, BlueGriffon does start, but does not open the file. That's why, for the time being, I use a simple "workaround": , I open local .html files via BlueGriffon itself. At some quiet moment, Christoph, I will try out your suggestions in this context and report my experience afterwords. In this context, BlueGriffon has another useful feature. It opens in tabs the html pages of the latest session: under the condition that you leave those pages in open tabs, while quitting the package. "Kate" I use as a very useful auxiliary package - for typing code, for copy - pasting specific bunches of code to other pages, etc... I also use it to open and edit .css files. When editing a .html page, I get a kind of colour feedback similar to that in BlueGriffon. Yesterday the two window system in the Firefox add-on "FireFTP" broke down because of a reason I still do not understand. That's why, I have tried "FileZilla" for remote file transfer purposes - I am really satisfied about it. It works much better then "FireFTP". Especially when uploading a large quantity of updated web files, "FileZilla" works simply excellently. Respectfully yours, Bas G. Roufs. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 13.04, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu Hello Everybody I use BlueGriffon, BlueFish and Kate for web page edition and gFtp for site updating Today i tried to upgrade my BlueGriffon (I was using 1.5.2) and I reached a problem. When I start the new release i get the message : Your BlueGriffon profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible What i have done I renamed my old release (mv bluegriffon bluegriffonOLD) I removed the Griffon profil directory (rm -R .disruptive\ innovations\ sarl ) I downloaded the new compressed tar file (bluegriffon-1.7.Ubuntu13.04- x86_64.tar.bz2) I'm running Kubuntu 13.04 64bits I ran tar command ( tar jxvf bluegriffon-1.7.Ubuntu13.04-x86_64.tar.bz2) I started bluegriffon ( ./bluegriffon/bluegriffon) and got a pop up window with the error message NB : All files and directories belong to my home user/group Any help is welcome Regards : TuxMario -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- drs. Bas G. Roufs Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . İts from BlueGriffon webpage. http://bluegriffon.org/pages/Download says Warning: you may have to delete your BlueGriffon profile if you installed a preview version or Release Candidate of this v1.7 or if you have trouble changing the language of the interface. You will have to re-install your add- ons after that. on Mac OS X: delete ~/Library/Application\ Support/BlueGriffon on Windows XP: delete c:\Documents and Settings\yourlogin\Application Data\Disruptive Innovations SARL on Windows 7: delete c:\Users\yourlogin\AppData\Roaming\Disruptive Innovations SARL on Linux: delete ~/.disruptive\ innovations\ sarl How to remove Babylon if you need it for installs <=1.6.2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Sun Jun 2 11:39:22 2013 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 12:39:22 +0100 Subject: timeout: killing '/usr/sbin/alsactl restore Message-ID: <1676717.QI2tBBFh0W@rachael> Over the past week or so when I turn the computer (Kubuntu 13.04 64 bit) on and log in, most of the desktop isn't functional - the menu will take ages to load up, shutting down doesn't work and I have no sound - usually, but not always simply rebooting works. I have tracked the problem down to the following line in syslog: udevd[443]: timeout: killing '/usr/sbin/alsactl restore 3' [1036] Followed by these lines: udevd[443]: last message repeated 61 times udevd[443]: last message repeated 7 times I did a bit of Googling and found that running: sudo rm /var/lib/alsa/asound.state Allows it to boot properly the next time, but I'd like a more permanent fix. From basroufs at gmail.com Sun Jun 2 12:55:53 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 14:55:53 +0200 Subject: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla : a golden combination for web page editing. In-Reply-To: References: <3878424.Fpy0nQO2yU@viaconsensus-home> <51AB019C.8010804@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Tuxmario. My advise for now I can briefly formulate. Open a terminal. Install Midnight Commander if you do not yet have it: sudo apt-get install mc Stay in the terminal and carry out the following command: sudo mc Now, Midnight Commander starts in superuser mode. Navigate now to the profile folder indicated in the mail of Yašar. Select 'chown' via the 'edit' menu in Midnight Commander. Who is 'owner': you or root? If root, change it to you. Check also the permissions via the same menu. You need to be able to read AND write to this profile folder. Change the permissions if necessary. Now, close Midnight Commander, but stay in the terminal. Restart the computer via 'sudo reboot'. When the system is working again, look up BlueGriffon via K-menu > internet or K-menu > development. Try to start it. If it works, halailuya! :-) . If not, open a terminal again and immediately give in the command 'sudo apt-get purge BlueGriffon'. Then, close the terminal and reinstall BlueGriffon via Muon. Does it work now? If yes, praise the Lord:-) . If not, stop tweaking, save your data to an extenal HD, download an image of Kubuntu 13.04 via KTorrent, write the image to a rewritable DVD and carry out a fresh install. Then, add again getdeb.net to the software sources and install BlueGriffon via Muon. Now at least, it should work. Please, share your findings here. Respectfully Yours, Bas. Op 2 jun. 2013 13:28 schreef "yaşar çay" het volgende: > ** > > 02 Haziran 2013 Pazar 10:26:04 tarihinde TuxMario DeTreb şöyle yazmıştı: > > Hello Bas > > Thanks a lot for your answers ... but the issue still exist > > > 1. I removed my local installation (BlueGriffon was installed in my > Home directory) : rm -rf ~/bluegriffon > 2. I removed BlueGriffon working directory : rm -rf .disruptive\ > innovations\ sarl > 3. I confirmed that BlueGriffon is not installed by trying to remove > it : sudo apt-get purge bluegriffon > 4. I cleaned my installation : sudo apt-get autoremove > 5. I used Muon to install BlueGriffon (repository GetDeb was active) > (2 packets were installet (bluegriffon and bluegriffon-data)) > 6. I checked availability of BlueGriffon (which bluegriffon ==> > /usr/bin/bluegriffon > 7. I logout and logon > 8. I started bluegriffon : bluegriffon > 9. and the error message still pop up (Your BlueGriffon profile cannot > be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible) > > Console was > (process:13687): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion > `sys_page_size == 0' failed > Error: Access was denied while trying to open files in your profile > directory. > > > Any other ideas are welcome > > Respectfully yours :TuxMario > > Le 01/06/2013 12:11, Bas Roufs a écrit : > > Hello TuxMario, > > Here is my advise for you. > > 1. Completely UNinstall the BlueGriffon package you have now in your > system. > > 2. Check your software sources. > > 3. Install BlueGriffon 1.7 via the GetDeb.net repository. > > Step 1. Completely UNintall... > ====================== > > Try the following commandline command: apt-get purge BlueGriffon. > > I am not sure whether this will work in case you have installed > BlueGriffon directly from it's website. In that case, try to do so via Muon > or via the Uninstall option from BlueGriffon itself. > > Step 2. Check your software sources. > =========================== > > Did you already add GetDeb.net to your software sources? (See: Muon > > settings.) If not, go to the GetDeb.net instruction page: > http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/13.04#how_to_install > > Add the GetDeb repository via the "getdeb package" you can download from > that page - see nr. 1. Or add that repository manually: see nr. 2. > > > STEP 3. Install BlueGriffon 1.7. > ======================= > FORGET about the steps mentioned under nr. 3, 4 and 5 at the GetDeb.net > instruction page. Instead, simply install BlueGriffon via Muon package > manager. Give in "BlueGriffon" in the search window. You will see > BlueGriffon and BlueGriffon-data popping up. Install both packages. > > !! The commandline install does not work in this case!! > > Respectfully yours, > Bas. > > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/1 TuxMario DeTreb > > > Le 31/05/2013 15:16, Bas G. Roufs - En. a écrit : > > Hello Christoph and Everybody. > > > > This is a good moment to shortly evaluate a golden combination for web > page editing: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla. > > > > At present, I am using "BlueGriffon"as well as "Kate" more and more for > web page editing - now via the platform "Kubuntu 13.04", along with "KDE > 4.10.2. > > > > Last week, the new version BlueGriffon 1.7 came in via an update. I am > really happy that this package is being maintained so well and frequently - > the package has really become better and better ever since I started using > it. In fact, "BlueGriffon" popped up for me just in time. A similar package > is "Kompozer" - however, that one is not being maintained any more ever > since about 2010. Also "Quanta Plus" is not available any more. Internet > pages I used to maintain with Kompozer, contained several little mistakes I > discovered and took away with "BlueGriffon". A very useful feature of the > latter package consists of several possibilities to identify and correct > mistakes in the HTML coding of a web page. By example - tags are red, > as long as something is missing (e.g.. an -tag) or incorrect, turn > blue when you are on the good way when typing codes, and finally become > green when everything is correct and complete. Moreover, if some specific > important code is missing somewhere after editing a page, BlueGriffon > suggests which missing code to exactly bring in where. > > > > A few months ago, I reported a bug because of which it is not possible to > immediately open a local .html file. When trying to do so, BlueGriffon does > start, but does not open the file. That's why, for the time being, I use a > simple "workaround": , I open local .html files via BlueGriffon itself. At > some quiet moment, Christoph, I will try out your suggestions in this > context and report my experience afterwords. > > > > In this context, BlueGriffon has another useful feature. It opens in tabs > the html pages of the latest session: under the condition that you leave > those pages in open tabs, while quitting the package. > > > > "Kate" I use as a very useful auxiliary package - for typing code, for > copy -pasting specific bunches of code to other pages, etc... I also use it > to open and edit .css files. When editing a .html page, I get a kind of > colour feedback similar to that in BlueGriffon. > > > > Yesterday the two window system in the Firefox add-on "FireFTP" broke down > because of a reason I still do not understand. That's why, I have tried > "FileZilla" for remote file transfer purposes - I am really satisfied about > it. It works much better then "FireFTP". Especially when uploading a large > quantity of updated web files, "FileZilla" works simply excellently. > > > > Respectfully yours, > > > > Bas G. Roufs. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bas G. Roufs MA > > Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht > > E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. > > Open source OS: Kubuntu 13.04, see kubuntu.org . > Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; > RainbowGathering.eu > > > Hello Everybody > > I use BlueGriffon, BlueFish and Kate for web page edition and gFtp for > site updating > Today i tried to upgrade my BlueGriffon (I was using 1.5.2) and I reached > a problem. > > When I start the new release i get the message : Your BlueGriffon profile > cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible > > What i have done > > - I renamed my old release (mv bluegriffon bluegriffonOLD) > - I removed the Griffon profil directory (rm -R .disruptive\ > innovations\ sarl ) > - I downloaded the new compressed tar file > (bluegriffon-1.7.Ubuntu13.04-x86_64.tar.bz2) I'm running Kubuntu 13.04 > 64bits > - I ran tar command ( tar jxvf > bluegriffon-1.7.Ubuntu13.04-x86_64.tar.bz2) > - I started bluegriffon ( ./bluegriffon/bluegriffon) and got a pop up > window with the error message > > NB : All files and directories belong to my home user/group > > Any help is welcome > > Regards : TuxMario > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > -- > > drs. Bas G. Roufs > > Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht > > E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. > > Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . > Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; > RainbowGathering.eu . > > > > > İts from BlueGriffon webpage. > > > > http://bluegriffon.org/pages/Download > > > > says > > > > Warning: you may have to delete your BlueGriffon profile if you installed > a preview version or Release Candidate of this v1.7 or if you have trouble > changing the language of the interface. You will have to re-install your > add-ons after that. > > > > > > - on Mac OS X: delete ~/Library/Application\ Support/BlueGriffon > - on Windows XP: delete c:\Documents and Settings\yourlogin\Application > Data\Disruptive Innovations SARL > - on Windows 7: delete c:\Users\yourlogin\AppData\Roaming\Disruptive > Innovations SARL > - on Linux: delete ~/.disruptive\ innovations\ sarl > > > - How to remove Babylon if > you need it for installs <=1.6.2 > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Sun Jun 2 16:49:15 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 18:49:15 +0200 Subject: Forcing VGA video on for nVidia nv50 (Lenovo T61p) In-Reply-To: <1370034050.88246.YahooMailNeo@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1370034050.88246.YahooMailNeo@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2100646.kSYTEi3IEb@p5915> BRM wrote: > I use it in dual monitor mode regularly with the LCD screen and a DVI > screen; but I need to use the VGA port for some presentations now, > but... > > If I plug a monitor into the VGA port, it announces itself via EDID, > is picked up, and KDE's Quick Display manager finds it and works. > However, I have a projector that doesn't seem announce itself via > EDID on its VGA (it's old - Mitsubishi XL1U); so KDE Quick Display > manager won't add the VGA-1 as an option to enable. Xorg doesn't see > it, so no surprise KDE doesn't either. I'm not sure if it helps, but have a look at this link: Nils From errol at tzora.co.il Sun Jun 2 20:18:50 2013 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 23:18:50 +0300 Subject: mc Message-ID: <51ABA8AA.5040301@tzora.co.il> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Sun Jun 2 21:01:35 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 23:01:35 +0200 Subject: mc In-Reply-To: <51ABA8AA.5040301@tzora.co.il> References: <51ABA8AA.5040301@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <15944863.HtWjLj1AA2@p5915> Please change your Thunderbird preferences for this list to send text- only mails instead of HTML-only. Errol Sapir wrote: > Midnight commander will only open when typing MC in the terminal. It > won't open as an independent program when clicking on the icon, nor > when trying to open it using Alt/F2. I have tried reinstalling > itafter uninstall but nothing works. When using Mint I haven't the > same problem. Any ideas? Errol Well, MC is a CLI application and therefore doesn't run without a terminal. But you could create an icon which runs this command: konsole --noclose -e mc Nils From basroufs at gmail.com Mon Jun 3 00:14:31 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 02:14:31 +0200 Subject: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla : a golden combination for web page editing. In-Reply-To: <51AA53BE.6020704@gmx.de> References: <3878424.Fpy0nQO2yU@viaconsensus-home> <51A9BFC7.1060905@gmail.com> <51AA53BE.6020704@gmx.de> Message-ID: Hello Christoph and Everybody. > what do you mean that the > command line installation > does not work? sudo apt-get > install bluegriffon ? Yes, exactly. After 'sudo apt-get install bluegriffon', I get something like this as feedback: ' Could not locate package.' On the other hand, I DO manage to install 'BlueGrffon' via a package manager. > Also please test if in the > package for 1.7 the html page > open directly in BlueGriffon. I > have added a fix there I think. Still, it does not work, when opening a page via eg. dolphin. More later,xxx, Bas. Best regards Christoph Op 1 jun. 2013 22:04 schreef "Christoph Korn" het volgende: > Hello, > > what do you mean that the command line installation does not work? > sudo apt-get install bluegriffon ? > Also please test if in the package for 1.7 the html page open directly in > BlueGriffon. I have added a fix there I think. > > Best regards > Christoph > > Am 01.06.2013 12:11, schrieb Bas Roufs: > > Hello TuxMario, > > > > Here is my advise for you. > > 1. Completely UNinstall the BlueGriffon package you have now in your > system. > > 2. Check your software sources. > > 3. Install BlueGriffon 1.7 via the GetDeb.net repository. > > > > Step 1. Completely UNintall... > > ====================== > > Try the following commandline command: apt-get purge BlueGriffon. > > I am not sure whether this will work in case you have installed > BlueGriffon > > directly from it's website. In that case, try to do so via Muon or via > the > > Uninstall option from BlueGriffon itself. > > > > Step 2. Check your software sources. > > =========================== > > Did you already add GetDeb.net to your software sources? (See: Muon > > > settings.) If not, go to the GetDeb.net instruction page: > > http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/13.04#how_to_install > > Add the GetDeb repository via the "getdeb package" you can download from > > that page - see nr. 1. Or add that repository manually: see nr. 2. > > > > STEP 3. Install BlueGriffon 1.7. > > ======================= > > FORGET about the steps mentioned under nr. 3, 4 and 5 at the GetDeb.net > > instruction page. Instead, simply install BlueGriffon via Muon package > > manager. Give in "BlueGriffon" in the search window. You will see > > BlueGriffon and BlueGriffon-data popping up. Install both packages. > > !! The commandline install does not work in this case!! > > > > Respectfully yours, > > Bas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/1 TuxMario DeTreb > > > >> > >> Le 31/05/2013 15:16, Bas G. Roufs - En. a écrit : > >> > >> Hello Christoph and Everybody. > >> > >> > >> > >> This is a good moment to shortly evaluate a golden combination for web > >> page editing: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla. > >> > >> > >> > >> At present, I am using "BlueGriffon"as well as "Kate" more and more for > >> web page editing - now via the platform "Kubuntu 13.04", along with "KDE > >> 4.10.2. > >> > >> > >> > >> Last week, the new version BlueGriffon 1.7 came in via an update. I am > >> really happy that this package is being maintained so well and > frequently - > >> the package has really become better and better ever since I started > using > >> it. In fact, "BlueGriffon" popped up for me just in time. A similar > package > >> is "Kompozer" - however, that one is not being maintained any more ever > >> since about 2010. Also "Quanta Plus" is not available any more. Internet > >> pages I used to maintain with Kompozer, contained several little > mistakes I > >> discovered and took away with "BlueGriffon". A very useful feature of > the > >> latter package consists of several possibilities to identify and correct > >> mistakes in the HTML coding of a web page. By example - tags are > red, > >> as long as something is missing (e.g.. an -tag) or incorrect, turn > >> blue when you are on the good way when typing codes, and finally become > >> green when everything is correct and complete. Moreover, if some > specific > >> important code is missing somewhere after editing a page, BlueGriffon > >> suggests which missing code to exactly bring in where. > >> > >> > >> > >> A few months ago, I reported a bug because of which it is not possible > to > >> immediately open a local .html file. When trying to do so, BlueGriffon > does > >> start, but does not open the file. That's why, for the time being, I > use a > >> simple "workaround": , I open local .html files via BlueGriffon itself. > At > >> some quiet moment, Christoph, I will try out your suggestions in this > >> context and report my experience afterwords. > >> > >> > >> > >> In this context, BlueGriffon has another useful feature. It opens in > tabs > >> the html pages of the latest session: under the condition that you leave > >> those pages in open tabs, while quitting the package. > >> > >> > >> > >> "Kate" I use as a very useful auxiliary package - for typing code, for > >> copy -pasting specific bunches of code to other pages, etc... I also > use it > >> to open and edit .css files. When editing a .html page, I get a kind of > >> colour feedback similar to that in BlueGriffon. > >> > >> > >> > >> Yesterday the two window system in the Firefox add-on "FireFTP" broke > down > >> because of a reason I still do not understand. That's why, I have tried > >> "FileZilla" for remote file transfer purposes - I am really satisfied > about > >> it. It works much better then "FireFTP". Especially when uploading a > large > >> quantity of updated web files, "FileZilla" works simply excellently. > >> > >> > >> > >> Respectfully yours, > >> > >> > >> > >> Bas G. Roufs. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Bas G. Roufs MA > >> > >> Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht > >> > >> E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. > >> > >> Open source OS: Kubuntu 13.04, see kubuntu.org . > >> Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; > >> RainbowGathering.eu > >> > >> > >> > >> Hello Everybody > >> > >> I use BlueGriffon, BlueFish and Kate for web page edition and gFtp for > >> site updating > >> Today i tried to upgrade my BlueGriffon (I was using 1.5.2) and I > reached > >> a problem. > >> > >> When I start the new release i get the message : *Your BlueGriffon > >> profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible* > >> > >> What i have done > >> > >> - I renamed my old release (mv bluegriffon bluegriffonOLD) > >> - I removed the Griffon profil directory (rm -R .disruptive\ > >> innovations\ sarl ) > >> - I downloaded the new compressed tar file > >> (bluegriffon-1.7.Ubuntu13.04-x86_64.tar.bz2) I'm running Kubuntu > 13.04 > >> 64bits > >> - I ran tar command ( tar jxvf > >> bluegriffon-1.7.Ubuntu13.04-x86_64.tar.bz2) > >> - I started bluegriffon ( ./bluegriffon/bluegriffon) and got a pop up > >> window with the error message > >> > >> NB : All files and directories belong to my home user/group > >> > >> Any help is welcome > >> > >> Regards : TuxMario > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> kubuntu-users mailing list > >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> > >> > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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> I have changed the sending format of my emails. Did this mail arrive > in the correct format?
> Errol
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> > No, something went wrong and it is still HTML-only. I can't tell you how to convince Thunderbird to do the right thing though (I'm using Kmail), but I do remember that it is possible. Nils From dethadol at pwatson.me.uk Mon Jun 3 11:39:42 2013 From: dethadol at pwatson.me.uk (Peter Watson) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:39:42 +0100 Subject: mc In-Reply-To: <2431841.EspSYpUkNE@p5915> References: <51ABA8AA.5040301@tzora.co.il> <15944863.HtWjLj1AA2@p5915> <51AC1216.20205@tzora.co.il> <2431841.EspSYpUkNE@p5915> Message-ID: <51AC807E.90800@pwatson.me.uk> On 03/06/13 07:18, Nils Kassube wrote: > Errol Sapir wrote: >> >> >> Thanks for your reply Nils.
>> I have changed the sending format of my emails. Did this mail arrive >> in the correct format?
>> Errol
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>> >> > No, something went wrong and it is still HTML-only. I can't tell you how > to convince Thunderbird to do the right thing though (I'm using Kmail), > but I do remember that it is possible. > > > Nils > > Edit > Account settings > Composition and Addressing > Uncheck Compose messages in HTML format HTH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sarunas at math.dartmouth.edu Mon Jun 3 12:08:00 2013 From: sarunas at math.dartmouth.edu (Sarunas Burdulis) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 08:08:00 -0400 Subject: mc In-Reply-To: <51ABA8AA.5040301@tzora.co.il> References: <51ABA8AA.5040301@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <51AC8720.30301@math.dartmouth.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/02/2013 04:18 PM, Errol Sapir wrote: > Midnight commander will only open when typing MC in the terminal. > It won't open as an independent program when clicking on the icon, > nor when trying to open it using Alt/F2. I have tried reinstalling > itafter uninstall but nothing works. When using Mint I haven't the > same problem. Any ideas? Errol When added to KDE panel (KDE menu, search Midnight, Add to panel) mc starts just fine. Here are essential entries form the corresponding mc.desktop file: Name=Midnight Commander Exec=mc Icon=MidnightCommander Terminal=true Type=Application Sarunas math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas P.S. In Thunderbird, when holding Shift while clicking Reply or Write will toggle the composition mode from HTML to text and vice versa (depending on what's your default composition setting for that account). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGshyAACgkQejaFVltl6E8bygCdFuZCb/64wcNvPtF0UBlQzJv/ Bh4AnRfIU501hKwHBoza+bG+mPqE7jfV =mGSz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From blchupin at iinet.net.au Mon Jun 3 14:40:35 2013 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 00:40:35 +1000 Subject: mc In-Reply-To: <51AC807E.90800@pwatson.me.uk> References: <51ABA8AA.5040301@tzora.co.il> <15944863.HtWjLj1AA2@p5915> <51AC1216.20205@tzora.co.il> <2431841.EspSYpUkNE@p5915> <51AC807E.90800@pwatson.me.uk> Message-ID: <51ACAAE3.9070501@iinet.net.au> On 03/06/13 21:39, Peter Watson wrote: > On 03/06/13 07:18, Nils Kassube wrote: >> Errol Sapir wrote: >>> >>> >>> Thanks for your reply Nils.
>>> I have changed the sending format of my emails. Did this mail arrive >>> in the correct format?
>>> Errol
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>>> >>> >> No, something went wrong and it is still HTML-only. I can't tell you how >> to convince Thunderbird to do the right thing though (I'm using Kmail), >> but I do remember that it is possible. >> >> >> Nils >> >> > Edit > Account settings > Composition and Addressing > Uncheck Compose > messages in HTML format > > HTH You can still compose your messages in HTML but where you determine whether the message is sent as HTML or in ASCII (text) is in the CONTACTS list where you specify (at the bottom of the entry) how posts to this address should be sent: html, text or unknown. I always compose my mail in HTML because some of the people I deal with only recognise HTML (ie, if they saw text they wouldn't know what it was - they are all Windows users you see :-) ) but posts to mail lists - like this one - has the Contact address configured to have mail sent to it as text. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.3 & kernel 3.9.4-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From bm_witness at yahoo.com Mon Jun 3 21:25:03 2013 From: bm_witness at yahoo.com (BRM) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 14:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Forcing VGA video on for nVidia nv50 (Lenovo T61p) In-Reply-To: <2100646.kSYTEi3IEb@p5915> References: <1370034050.88246.YahooMailNeo@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <2100646.kSYTEi3IEb@p5915> Message-ID: <1370294703.84603.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > From: Nils Kassube >Subject: Re: Forcing VGA video on for nVidia nv50 (Lenovo T61p) >BRM wrote: >> I use it in dual monitor mode regularly with the LCD screen and a DVI >> screen; but I need to use the VGA port for some presentations now, >> but... >> >> If I plug a monitor into the VGA port, it announces itself via EDID, >> is picked up, and KDE's Quick Display manager finds it and works. >> However, I have a projector that doesn't seem announce itself via >> EDID on its VGA (it's old - Mitsubishi XL1U); so KDE Quick Display >> manager won't add the VGA-1 as an option to enable. Xorg doesn't see >> it, so no surprise KDE doesn't either. > >I'm not sure if it helps, but have a look at this link: > Not sure, but it's worth a try. I came across a similar solution, but not written so well, so it wasn't very clear what exactly you were doing with the text, e.g. they didn't say it was a kernel parameter, and talked about KMS mostly. I'll give it a shot; it might make for a good alternate boot line. Thx, Ben From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 01:41:40 2013 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 19:41:40 -0600 Subject: what program controls entries in resolv.conf? Message-ID: <51AD45D4.3070700@gmail.com> Running 13.04, my resolv.conf file looks like this: ---- # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN nameserver 127.0.1.1 search homelan.org ---- Where did these entries actually come from? In particular, I want to get rid of the "search" line, but my efforts at googling didn't present me with any suggestions as to how to do this. My best guess is that it got the entries from /run/resolvconf/interface/NetworkManager, but if that's true, then where did the values in that file come from? The Kubuntu Network Manager doesn't seem to display anything relevant on any screen I can find. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 261 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From cody.smith9202 at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 01:50:49 2013 From: cody.smith9202 at gmail.com (Cody Smith) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 18:50:49 -0700 Subject: what program controls entries in resolv.conf? 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URL: From errol at tzora.co.il Tue Jun 4 03:40:47 2013 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 06:40:47 +0300 Subject: mc In-Reply-To: <51ACAAE3.9070501@iinet.net.au> References: <51ABA8AA.5040301@tzora.co.il> <15944863.HtWjLj1AA2@p5915> <51AC1216.20205@tzora.co.il> <2431841.EspSYpUkNE@p5915> <51AC807E.90800@pwatson.me.uk> <51ACAAE3.9070501@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <51AD61BF.8050300@tzora.co.il> On 06/03/2013 05:40 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 03/06/13 21:39, Peter Watson wrote: > > You can still compose your messages in HTML but where you determine > whether the message is sent as HTML or in ASCII (text) is in the > CONTACTS list where you specify (at the bottom of the entry) how posts > to this address should be sent: html, text or unknown. > > I always compose my mail in HTML because some of the people I deal with > only recognise HTML (ie, if they saw text they wouldn't know what it was > - they are all Windows users you see :-) ) but posts to mail lists - > like this one - has the Contact address configured to have mail sent to > it as text. > Peter I now changed the format in my Kubuntu recipients list in the address book to "only send as text" to this list. As I receive my mail correctly however sent, can you or Nils tell me if this is now received correctly. TIA Errol From blchupin at iinet.net.au Tue Jun 4 04:21:28 2013 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 14:21:28 +1000 Subject: mc In-Reply-To: <51AD61BF.8050300@tzora.co.il> References: <51ABA8AA.5040301@tzora.co.il> <15944863.HtWjLj1AA2@p5915> <51AC1216.20205@tzora.co.il> <2431841.EspSYpUkNE@p5915> <51AC807E.90800@pwatson.me.uk> <51ACAAE3.9070501@iinet.net.au> <51AD61BF.8050300@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <51AD6B48.4070800@iinet.net.au> On 04/06/13 13:40, Errol Sapir wrote: > On 06/03/2013 05:40 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 03/06/13 21:39, Peter Watson wrote: > >> >> You can still compose your messages in HTML but where you determine >> whether the message is sent as HTML or in ASCII (text) is in the >> CONTACTS list where you specify (at the bottom of the entry) how posts >> to this address should be sent: html, text or unknown. >> >> I always compose my mail in HTML because some of the people I deal with >> only recognise HTML (ie, if they saw text they wouldn't know what it was >> - they are all Windows users you see :-) ) but posts to mail lists - >> like this one - has the Contact address configured to have mail sent to >> it as text. >> > Peter I now changed the format in my Kubuntu recipients list in the > address book to "only send as text" to this list. > As I receive my mail correctly however sent, can you or Nils tell me > if this is now received correctly. > TIA > Errol Received here, in this list, in text format :-) . BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.3 & kernel 3.9.4-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From blchupin at iinet.net.au Tue Jun 4 04:27:30 2013 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 14:27:30 +1000 Subject: mc In-Reply-To: <51AD6B48.4070800@iinet.net.au> References: <51ABA8AA.5040301@tzora.co.il> <15944863.HtWjLj1AA2@p5915> <51AC1216.20205@tzora.co.il> <2431841.EspSYpUkNE@p5915> <51AC807E.90800@pwatson.me.uk> <51ACAAE3.9070501@iinet.net.au> <51AD61BF.8050300@tzora.co.il> <51AD6B48.4070800@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <51AD6CB2.5010707@iinet.net.au> On 04/06/13 14:21, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 04/06/13 13:40, Errol Sapir wrote: >> On 06/03/2013 05:40 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> On 03/06/13 21:39, Peter Watson wrote: >> >>> >>> You can still compose your messages in HTML but where you determine >>> whether the message is sent as HTML or in ASCII (text) is in the >>> CONTACTS list where you specify (at the bottom of the entry) how posts >>> to this address should be sent: html, text or unknown. >>> >>> I always compose my mail in HTML because some of the people I deal with >>> only recognise HTML (ie, if they saw text they wouldn't know what it >>> was >>> - they are all Windows users you see :-) ) but posts to mail lists - >>> like this one - has the Contact address configured to have mail sent to >>> it as text. >>> >> Peter I now changed the format in my Kubuntu recipients list in the >> address book to "only send as text" to this list. >> As I receive my mail correctly however sent, can you or Nils tell me >> if this is now received correctly. >> TIA >> Errol > > Received here, in this list, in text format :-) . > > BC ADDENDUM. I forgot to mention that if you use the recent Daily releases (past ~week+) of Thunderbird 24.0a1 then it has a bug and it seems to ignore the setting in the Contacts list of addressees and sends the mail as HTML. So if you are using 24.0a1 switch back to TB 17.0.6 and all will be well again. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.3 & kernel 3.9.4-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Jun 4 14:28:35 2013 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 10:28:35 -0400 Subject: what program controls entries in resolv.conf? In-Reply-To: <51AD45D4.3070700@gmail.com> References: <51AD45D4.3070700@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1395313.uZV67vB6i4@linux1> On Monday, June 03, 2013 07:41:40 PM D. R. Evans wrote: > Running 13.04, my resolv.conf file looks like this: > > ---- > > # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by > resolvconf(8) # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE > OVERWRITTEN nameserver 127.0.1.1 > search homelan.org > > ---- > > Where did these entries actually come from? In particular, I want to get rid > of the "search" line, but my efforts at googling didn't present me with any > suggestions as to how to do this. > > My best guess is that it got the entries from > /run/resolvconf/interface/NetworkManager, but if that's true, then where did > the values in that file come from? The Kubuntu Network Manager doesn't seem > to display anything relevant on any screen I can find. > > Doc It done by a pkg called resolvconf... which, one you get things right, is not a bad thang...... If you put your nameserver addresses into /etc/network/interfaces, it will pick them up and build your resolv.conf. For one thing, in the later versions, /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink to ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf but that's minor. You also put your search domains into /etc/network/interfaces and you'll be set. Here is my /etc/network/interfaces on 13.04: ======================= auto lo iface lo inet loopback address 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.2 dns-nameservers 192.168.0.2 216.245.224.4 216.245.225.142 dns-domain bmarsh.org dns-search bmarsh.org ================================== Hope this helps.... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh at bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 06/04/13 10:20 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends?" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Tue Jun 4 21:36:12 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 23:36:12 +0200 Subject: Start with the wanted activity Message-ID: <1635635.uY3dkRi85c@p5915> On my laptop I have Kubuntu 12.04 (64 bit) installed with KDE 4.10.3 from the Kubuntu backports ppa. I have a little problem with my main account: After the first login there is always a "new activity" active and if I try to switch to my customized activity, it isn't available. There is only this single new activity. However if I then logout and login again, I can at least select the wanted activity. Furthermore there is an additional "new activity" created after every reboot. Strangely enough this only happens with my main account but not for the second account which was also created long before the upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04. This second account only has one customized activity and there is never a new activity created automagically. Finally I have now created a third account to find out what should happen with an account created with KDE 4.10.3. I had only customized the first activity for this account and didn't create a new activity myself. However after the next reboot, there was a new activity created. But the first customized activity is automatically started after every login, never the wrong activity. Furthermore there are no more new activities created after reboot. Now the question is this: What do I have to change for my main account to get the same behaviour of one of the other accounts where the wanted customized activity is started every time? I wouldn't mind if there are additional unused activities, I only care about the one customized activity. Actually I have no use for activity switching, so disabling this feature would be fine. Comparing the config files in ~/.kde for the three accounts didn't provide a clue. By searching the web I found that at least these two files are responsible for the activities: "~/.kde/share/config/activitymanagerrc" and "~/.kde/share/config/plasma- desktop-appletsrc". It looks like the first file determines which activities are available and which activity should be active while the second file describes the layout of the activities. I have already moved those files to start with a fresh activity behaviour, but that didn't help - therefore I restored the files. I also edited the activitymanagerrc file and removed all the additional entries for unwanted activities, so it looked like the file from the second account, but that also didn't help. The behaviour was always like I described in the first paragraph. Are there other config files which might have an influence? Nils From tuxmario.detreb at gmail.com Tue Jun 4 22:06:10 2013 From: tuxmario.detreb at gmail.com (TuxMario DeTreb) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 00:06:10 +0200 Subject: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla : a golden combination for web page editing. In-Reply-To: References: <3878424.Fpy0nQO2yU@viaconsensus-home> <51A9BFC7.1060905@gmail.com> <51AA53BE.6020704@gmx.de> Message-ID: <51AE64D2.9040207@gmail.com> Hello Bas and everybody I had followed all your recommendations and still reached the issue (pop up telling Your BlueGriffon profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible) After several tests I found what was wrong in my environment ! In fact the problem was that my personal *~/.cache* directory contained a sub directory *disruptive innovations sarl* ///*cd ; *//*ls -la .cache/*// //.....// //drwx------ 3 root root 4096 juin 1 10:02 disruptive innovations sarl// //..../ I removed this directory (*cd ; sudo rm -rf .cache/disruptive\ innovations\ sarl***) Now BlueGriffon is running properly To summarize the solution was to remove the 2 following directories *~**/disruptive\ innovations\ sarl* and *~***/.cache*/disruptive\ innovations\ sarl* before running new BlueGriffon Thanks to all of you Best regards : TuxMario Le 03/06/2013 02:14, Bas Roufs a écrit : > > Hello Christoph and Everybody. > > > what do you mean that the > > command line installation > > does not work? sudo apt-get > > install bluegriffon ? > Yes, exactly. > After 'sudo apt-get install bluegriffon', I get something like this as > feedback: > ' Could not locate package.' > On the other hand, I DO manage to install 'BlueGrffon' via a package > manager. > > > Also please test if in the > > package for 1.7 the html page > > open directly in BlueGriffon. I > > have added a fix there I think. > > Still, it does not work, when opening a page via eg. dolphin. > More later,xxx, > Bas. > > Best regards Christoph > > Op 1 jun. 2013 22:04 schreef "Christoph Korn" > het volgende: > > Hello, > > what do you mean that the command line installation does not work? > sudo apt-get install bluegriffon ? > Also please test if in the package for 1.7 the html page open > directly in > BlueGriffon. I have added a fix there I think. > > Best regards > Christoph > > Am 01.06.2013 12:11, schrieb Bas Roufs: > > Hello TuxMario, > > > > Here is my advise for you. > > 1. Completely UNinstall the BlueGriffon package you have now in > your system. > > 2. Check your software sources. > > 3. Install BlueGriffon 1.7 via the GetDeb.net repository. > > > > Step 1. Completely UNintall... > > ====================== > > Try the following commandline command: apt-get purge BlueGriffon. > > I am not sure whether this will work in case you have installed > BlueGriffon > > directly from it's website. In that case, try to do so via Muon > or via the > > Uninstall option from BlueGriffon itself. > > > > Step 2. Check your software sources. > > =========================== > > Did you already add GetDeb.net to your software sources? (See: > Muon > > > settings.) If not, go to the GetDeb.net instruction page: > > http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/13.04#how_to_install > > Add the GetDeb repository via the "getdeb package" you can > download from > > that page - see nr. 1. Or add that repository manually: see nr. 2. > > > > STEP 3. Install BlueGriffon 1.7. > > ======================= > > FORGET about the steps mentioned under nr. 3, 4 and 5 at the > GetDeb.net > > instruction page. Instead, simply install BlueGriffon via Muon > package > > manager. Give in "BlueGriffon" in the search window. You will see > > BlueGriffon and BlueGriffon-data popping up. Install both packages. > > !! The commandline install does not work in this case!! > > > > Respectfully yours, > > Bas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/1 TuxMario DeTreb > > > > >> > >> Le 31/05/2013 15:16, Bas G. Roufs - En. a écrit : > >> > >> Hello Christoph and Everybody. > >> > >> > >> > >> This is a good moment to shortly evaluate a golden combination > for web > >> page editing: BlueGriffon, Kate and FileZilla. > >> > >> > >> > >> At present, I am using "BlueGriffon"as well as "Kate" more and > more for > >> web page editing - now via the platform "Kubuntu 13.04", along > with "KDE > >> 4.10.2. > >> > >> > >> > >> Last week, the new version BlueGriffon 1.7 came in via an > update. I am > >> really happy that this package is being maintained so well and > frequently - > >> the package has really become better and better ever since I > started using > >> it. In fact, "BlueGriffon" popped up for me just in time. A > similar package > >> is "Kompozer" - however, that one is not being maintained any > more ever > >> since about 2010. Also "Quanta Plus" is not available any more. > Internet > >> pages I used to maintain with Kompozer, contained several > little mistakes I > >> discovered and took away with "BlueGriffon". A very useful > feature of the > >> latter package consists of several possibilities to identify > and correct > >> mistakes in the HTML coding of a web page. By example - > tags are red, > >> as long as something is missing (e.g.. an -tag) or > incorrect, turn > >> blue when you are on the good way when typing codes, and > finally become > >> green when everything is correct and complete. Moreover, if > some specific > >> important code is missing somewhere after editing a page, > BlueGriffon > >> suggests which missing code to exactly bring in where. > >> > >> > >> > >> A few months ago, I reported a bug because of which it is not > possible to > >> immediately open a local .html file. When trying to do so, > BlueGriffon does > >> start, but does not open the file. That's why, for the time > being, I use a > >> simple "workaround": , I open local .html files via BlueGriffon > itself. At > >> some quiet moment, Christoph, I will try out your suggestions > in this > >> context and report my experience afterwords. > >> > >> > >> > >> In this context, BlueGriffon has another useful feature. It > opens in tabs > >> the html pages of the latest session: under the condition that > you leave > >> those pages in open tabs, while quitting the package. > >> > >> > >> > >> "Kate" I use as a very useful auxiliary package - for typing > code, for > >> copy -pasting specific bunches of code to other pages, etc... I > also use it > >> to open and edit .css files. When editing a .html page, I get a > kind of > >> colour feedback similar to that in BlueGriffon. > >> > >> > >> > >> Yesterday the two window system in the Firefox add-on "FireFTP" > broke down > >> because of a reason I still do not understand. That's why, I > have tried > >> "FileZilla" for remote file transfer purposes - I am really > satisfied about > >> it. It works much better then "FireFTP". Especially when > uploading a large > >> quantity of updated web files, "FileZilla" works simply > excellently. > >> > >> > >> > >> Respectfully yours, > >> > >> > >> > >> Bas G. Roufs. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Bas G. Roufs MA > >> > >> Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht > >> > >> E. BasRoufs at gmail.com ; Mob. +31 6 > 446 835 10 ; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40 > . > >> > >> Open source OS: Kubuntu 13.04, see kubuntu.org > . > >> Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; > >> RainbowGathering.eu > >> > >> > >> > >> Hello Everybody > >> > >> I use BlueGriffon, BlueFish and Kate for web page edition and > gFtp for > >> site updating > >> Today i tried to upgrade my BlueGriffon (I was using 1.5.2) and > I reached > >> a problem. > >> > >> When I start the new release i get the message : *Your BlueGriffon > >> profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible* > >> > >> What i have done > >> > >> - I renamed my old release (mv bluegriffon bluegriffonOLD) > >> - I removed the Griffon profil directory (rm -R .disruptive\ > >> innovations\ sarl ) > >> - I downloaded the new compressed tar file > >> (bluegriffon-1.7.Ubuntu13.04-x86_64.tar.bz2) I'm running > Kubuntu 13.04 > >> 64bits > >> - I ran tar command ( tar jxvf > >> bluegriffon-1.7.Ubuntu13.04-x86_64.tar.bz2) > >> - I started bluegriffon ( ./bluegriffon/bluegriffon) and got > a pop up > >> window with the error message > >> > >> NB : All files and directories belong to my home user/group > >> > >> Any help is welcome > >> > >> Regards : TuxMario > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> kubuntu-users mailing list > >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> > >> > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From errol at tzora.co.il Wed Jun 5 00:06:23 2013 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 03:06:23 +0300 Subject: mc In-Reply-To: <51AD6CB2.5010707@iinet.net.au> References: <51ABA8AA.5040301@tzora.co.il> <15944863.HtWjLj1AA2@p5915> <51AC1216.20205@tzora.co.il> <2431841.EspSYpUkNE@p5915> <51AC807E.90800@pwatson.me.uk> <51ACAAE3.9070501@iinet.net.au> <51AD61BF.8050300@tzora.co.il> <51AD6B48.4070800@iinet.net.au> <51AD6CB2.5010707@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <51AE80FF.2090103@tzora.co.il> On 06/04/2013 07:27 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 04/06/13 14:21, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 04/06/13 13:40, Errol Sapir wrote: >>> On 06/03/2013 05:40 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: >>>> On 03/06/13 21:39, Peter Watson wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> You can still compose your messages in HTML but where you determine >>>> whether the message is sent as HTML or in ASCII (text) is in the >>>> CONTACTS list where you specify (at the bottom of the entry) how posts >>>> to this address should be sent: html, text or unknown. >>>> >>>> I always compose my mail in HTML because some of the people I deal with >>>> only recognise HTML (ie, if they saw text they wouldn't know what it >>>> was >>>> - they are all Windows users you see :-) ) but posts to mail lists - >>>> like this one - has the Contact address configured to have mail sent to >>>> it as text. >>>> >>> Peter I now changed the format in my Kubuntu recipients list in the >>> address book to "only send as text" to this list. >>> As I receive my mail correctly however sent, can you or Nils tell me >>> if this is now received correctly. >>> TIA >>> Errol >> >> Received here, in this list, in text format :-) . >> >> BC > > > ADDENDUM. > > I forgot to mention that if you use the recent Daily releases (past > ~week+) of Thunderbird 24.0a1 then it has a bug and it seems to ignore > the setting in the Contacts list of addressees and sends the mail as > HTML. So if you are using 24.0a1 switch back to TB 17.0.6 and all will > be well again. > > BC > I'm glad mine is now OK. I am using TB 17.0.6. Mine didn't update Errol From basroufs at gmail.com Thu Jun 6 10:57:24 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas G. Roufs - En.) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:57:24 +0200 Subject: Even while writing this e-mail, the system 'froze' several times. Message-ID: <4452004.ZgllMiREMC@viaconsensus-home> Hello Everybody , ever since Kubuntu 12.04 , the system 'freezes' several times each day. Especially, when multitasking, the system gets stuck suddenly - at such a moment, nothing is possible any more except taking out the battery and restarting the system altogether. But also when working ONLY with e.g.. Firefox or Kontact, something like this can happen. Now, I am working ONLY with Kontact - however, the system froze already several times while I was writing this e-mail. I also needed one time to forcibly terminate and restart Kontact. At present, I am working at a netbook, HP Pavilion dm 1 - AMD Dualcore 1,66 GHz, 500 GB HD, 32 bits. The system now is a fresh install of Kubuntu 13.04, along with KDE 4.10.2. My question: how can I get the system running more smoothly? Any thoughts and advises appreciated. Respectfully yours, Bas Roufs. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 13.04, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu From errol at tzora.co.il Thu Jun 6 11:15:15 2013 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:15:15 +0300 Subject: Even while writing this e-mail, the system 'froze' several times. In-Reply-To: <4452004.ZgllMiREMC@viaconsensus-home> References: <4452004.ZgllMiREMC@viaconsensus-home> Message-ID: <51B06F43.1000602@tzora.co.il> Hi Bas I have been having the same problem as you. My "freezing" is not as frequent as yours. Mine happens maybe once or twice a day, and sometimes goes for days without "freezing". My computer is desktop not a laptop. When I brought up the subject many months ago (I think on the "official" Kubuntu forum) most people tried to steer me in the direction of a computer problem (memory or hard drive, etc.) The only reason I doubted that analysis was the fact that in Windows 7 (my computer dual boots) there was no problem. Only with Kubuntu 12.10 and now 13.04 do I have the problem. I haven't contributed much if finding the problem but at least I now know that I am not alone and maybe the problem isn't with my computer but with Kubuntu. If you find anything Kubuntu related please keep me informed. Errol On 06/06/2013 01:57 PM, Bas G. Roufs - En. wrote: > Hello Everybody , > > ever since Kubuntu 12.04 , the system 'freezes' several times each day. > Especially, when multitasking, the system gets stuck suddenly - at such a > moment, nothing is possible any more except taking out the battery and > restarting the system altogether. But also when working ONLY with e.g.. > Firefox or Kontact, something like this can happen. Now, I am working ONLY > with Kontact - however, the system froze already several times while I was > writing this e-mail. I also needed one time to forcibly terminate and restart > Kontact. > > At present, I am working at a netbook, HP Pavilion dm 1 - AMD Dualcore 1,66 > GHz, 500 GB HD, 32 bits. The system now is a fresh install of Kubuntu 13.04, > along with KDE 4.10.2. > > My question: how can I get the system running more smoothly? Any thoughts and > advises appreciated. > > Respectfully yours, > Bas Roufs. > > From basroufs at gmail.com Thu Jun 6 12:34:46 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas G. Roufs - En.) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:34:46 +0200 Subject: Even while writing this e-mail, the system 'froze' several times. In-Reply-To: <51B06F43.1000602@tzora.co.il> References: <4452004.ZgllMiREMC@viaconsensus-home> <51B06F43.1000602@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <11616580.riQP5706fW@viaconsensus-home> Hello Errol and Everybody. On Thursday 06 June 2013 14:15:15 Errol Sapir wrote: > Hi Bas > I have been having the same problem as you. My "freezing" is not as > frequent as yours. Mine happens maybe once or twice a day, and sometimes > goes for days without "freezing". Do you still have this problem sometimes? In my case, I sometimes have quite frequently this problem - like today, in other days, I have it once, twice or not at all. So, the pattern is quite irregular. > My computer is desktop not a laptop. > When I brought up the subject many months ago (I think on the "official" > Kubuntu forum) most people tried to steer me in the direction of a > computer problem (memory or hard drive, etc.) I have wiped off the WIN 7 system that came with my laptop. In a few cases, I run WIN 7 within a virtual environment inside Kubuntu. However it may be - the laptop I am working with is about 1 year old and has quite good specs - HP Pavilion dm 1 with an HD of 500 GB, an AMD Dual Core processor of 1,66 GHz, Internal RAM Memory of 4 GB. To be honest, I cannot imagine it is a purely hardware problem. > The only reason I doubted > that analysis was the fact that in Windows 7 (my computer dual boots) > there was no problem. Only with Kubuntu 12.10 and now 13.04 do I have > the problem. At the Ubuntu user forum, I have seen a one or a few reports about similar problems. > I haven't contributed much if finding the problem but at > least I now know that I am not alone and maybe the problem isn't with my > computer but with Kubuntu. If you find anything Kubuntu related please > keep me informed. I will do so, via this forum. Respectfully yours. Bas. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 13.04, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 09:10:31 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 11:10:31 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.10.4 Message-ID: <51B1A387.8080907@gmail.com> Seems the June upgrade has hit kubuntu upgrade (Raring) and backports (Precise/Quantal) ppa. Anyone tried it out? Kind regards Sinclair From steve at rileyz.net Fri Jun 7 17:24:46 2013 From: steve at rileyz.net (Steve Riley) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 10:24:46 -0700 Subject: KDE 4.10.4 In-Reply-To: <51B1A387.8080907@gmail.com> References: <51B1A387.8080907@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1537931.YY0UvaMfDj@t520> On 2013-06-07 11:10:31 O. Sinclair wrote: > > Seems the June upgrade has hit kubuntu upgrade (Raring) and backports > (Precise/Quantal) ppa. > > Anyone tried it out? All good here. ...Steve From james.cain.25 at gmail.com Fri Jun 7 17:49:25 2013 From: james.cain.25 at gmail.com (James Cain) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:49:25 -0400 Subject: KDE 4.10.4 In-Reply-To: <1537931.YY0UvaMfDj@t520> References: <51B1A387.8080907@gmail.com> <1537931.YY0UvaMfDj@t520> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Steve Riley wrote: > On 2013-06-07 11:10:31 O. Sinclair wrote: > > > > Seems the June upgrade has hit kubuntu upgrade (Raring) and backports > > (Precise/Quantal) ppa. > > > > Anyone tried it out? > > > All good here. > > ...Steve > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Same here. Flawless. The bug fixes are most welcome, too :) -- James Cain -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com Mon Jun 10 03:30:32 2013 From: juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com (Juan R. de Silva) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 03:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: problem loading i8k module upon boot Message-ID: I need to load i8k module upon boot for lm-sensors to be able to read data from my Dell laptop fan. In Ubuntu 12.04 I just added line "i8k" to /etc/modules file and everything works just fine. However in Kubuntu 12.10 added the same line to the same file has no effect. That is the i8k module is not loaded upon boot. The only thing I can see in kernel log is the following error:"i8k: unable to get SMM BIOS version". Tried to add line "i8k force=1" without any results either. Running 'modprobe i8k' in CLI loads the module and 'sensors' reads the fan data as expected. But this rightfully does not survive a reboot. What's the heck makes Kubuntu so different from its "big brother"? Any suggestions, please? From juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com Mon Jun 10 03:48:26 2013 From: juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com (Juan R. de Silva) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 03:48:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: OT: looking for advise on laptop upgrade References: Message-ID: On Tue, 21 May 2013 02:48:02 +0000, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > I have Dell Latitude D820 laptop with Dual Core 1.8GHz CPU and 1GB of > RAM. The laptop is slightly over 6 years old. > > Until recent I was satisfied with it. However with advent of new > technologies it started performing poorly with DEs like KDE4 or Unity. > Since I do not consider switching to neither Xfce nor LXDE, the only > choice I have is either to upgrade RAM up to 4GB, which would cost me > with taxes around $80-90, or to buy a new laptop. > > However I'm not sure on 2 things: > > 1. Would such RAM upgrade actually give me real significant burst in > performance? > > 2. This one is a tough one :-). 6 years old laptop could actually die at > any time leaving me with 2 not need memory sticks and lost $90. > > So, I'm trying to make up my mind, whether to upgrade RAM or to forget > about it and to save $80-90 rather adding them to buying a new laptop. > > Would somebody give me an advise on the subject and/or share his/her > related experience, please? At least on the first item:-). Well, what do you know?.. I decided to try the mentioned memory upgrade. Preparing for it I settled to clean the insides of my laptop first. When I opened the laptop I was amazed how little dust I actually found there. However, since I was already there, I dusted it with compressed air and then... My laptop runs now 35-52 degrees Celsius vs. 48-82 before. Both Unity3D (12.04) and Kubuntu 12.10 run pretty snappy even with my only 1GB of RAM. My 7200 RPM HDD is certainly in help there too. So, I'm not really sure I need any upgrade now :-). Though I probably will do proceed with it. I would never think such a little amount of dust can suffocate the poor thing so strongly. From kassube at gmx.net Mon Jun 10 13:12:03 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:12:03 +0200 Subject: Start with the wanted activity In-Reply-To: <1635635.uY3dkRi85c@p5915> References: <1635635.uY3dkRi85c@p5915> Message-ID: <1870042.nerSQYcY6U@p5915> Nils Kassube wrote: > On my laptop I have Kubuntu 12.04 (64 bit) installed with KDE 4.10.3 > from the Kubuntu backports ppa. I have a little problem with my main > account: After the first login there is always a "new activity" active > and if I try to switch to my customized activity, it isn't available. > There is only this single new activity. However if I then logout and > login again, I can at least select the wanted activity. Furthermore > there is an additional "new activity" created after every reboot. Fortunately the problem vanished recently. Even after many reboots the machine always starts with my customized activity and no new activities are created. I think it was repaired by the upgrade to KDE 4.10.4. Nils From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Jun 10 17:45:42 2013 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:45:42 -0400 Subject: problem loading i8k module upon boot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2560481.aLCLcmfunG@linux1> On Monday, June 10, 2013 03:30:32 AM Juan R. de Silva wrote: > I need to load i8k module upon boot for lm-sensors to be able to read > data from my Dell laptop fan. In Ubuntu 12.04 I just added line "i8k" to > /etc/modules file and everything works just fine. > > However in Kubuntu 12.10 added the same line to the same file has no > effect. That is the i8k module is not loaded upon boot. The only thing I > can see in kernel log is the following error:"i8k: unable to get SMM BIOS > version". Tried to add line "i8k force=1" without any results either. > > Running 'modprobe i8k' in CLI loads the module and 'sensors' reads the > fan data as expected. But this rightfully does not survive a reboot. > > What's the heck makes Kubuntu so different from its "big brother"? Any > suggestions, please? I always run "sensors-detect" and let it find the modules needed to load and then auto-update the /etc/modules file. Something may have changed with 12.10. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh at bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 06/10/13 13:43 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder..." From juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com Mon Jun 10 22:00:13 2013 From: juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com (Juan R. de Silva) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 22:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: problem loading i8k module upon boot References: <2560481.aLCLcmfunG@linux1> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:45:42 -0400, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday, June 10, 2013 03:30:32 AM Juan R. de Silva wrote: >> I need to load i8k module upon boot for lm-sensors to be able to read >> data from my Dell laptop fan. In Ubuntu 12.04 I just added line "i8k" >> to /etc/modules file and everything works just fine. >> >> However in Kubuntu 12.10 added the same line to the same file has no >> effect. That is the i8k module is not loaded upon boot. The only thing >> I can see in kernel log is the following error:"i8k: unable to get SMM >> BIOS version". Tried to add line "i8k force=1" without any results >> either. >> >> Running 'modprobe i8k' in CLI loads the module and 'sensors' reads the >> fan data as expected. But this rightfully does not survive a reboot. >> >> What's the heck makes Kubuntu so different from its "big brother"? Any >> suggestions, please? > > I always run "sensors-detect" and let it find the modules needed to load > and then auto-update the /etc/modules file. Something may have changed > with 12.10. I found in Ubuntu 12.04 there is no need to run sensors-detect anymore. Just install lm-sensors and then run 'sensors' from CLI and you get the results. I'm not sure but it looks to me that 'sensors-detect' is run upon installation. I actually tried to additionally run sensors-detect in Ubuntu 12.04 but it added nothing to the sensors list already reported. This is why I added i8k to /etc/modules. Same thing happens in Kubuntu. You install lm-sensors and 'sensors' gives you the same results, i.e. everything but fan information. This is why I wanted to load i8k on boot. And I still can understand why in Kubuntu the added i8k line is just ignored. From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Jun 10 22:34:40 2013 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:34:40 -0600 Subject: Even while writing this e-mail, the system 'froze' several times. In-Reply-To: <4452004.ZgllMiREMC@viaconsensus-home> References: <4452004.ZgllMiREMC@viaconsensus-home> Message-ID: <51B65480.2030505@gmail.com> Bas G. Roufs - En. said the following at 06/06/2013 04:57 AM : > Hello Everybody , > > ever since Kubuntu 12.04 , the system 'freezes' several times each day. Yep. My freezes last about 15 seconds and then suddenly everything is responsive again. This is on a desktop machine, and the issue did not occur prior to installing 13.04. My observation over the past few years is that for every thing that gets fixed in a new release, in general something else breaks. 13.04 has not conformed to this tradition in that there are definitely more broken things here than there were in 12.10. For example, my monitor will no longer power off after a period of inactivity. And if I try to use a blank screen as a screensaver, I get a huge number of silly processes filling my screen when I reboot and log in. Akonadi, of course, is as bad as ever. I killed one of the semi-infinite number of akonadi processes this morning after I saw that it was consuming 12GB of memory. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 261 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Jun 10 23:13:14 2013 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:13:14 -0400 Subject: Even while writing this e-mail, the system 'froze' several times. In-Reply-To: <51B65480.2030505@gmail.com> References: <4452004.ZgllMiREMC@viaconsensus-home> <51B65480.2030505@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9203569.QR7TOYYvLF@linux1> On Monday, June 10, 2013 04:34:40 PM D. R. Evans wrote: > Bas G. Roufs - En. said the following at 06/06/2013 04:57 AM : > > Hello Everybody , > > > > ever since Kubuntu 12.04 , the system 'freezes' several times each day. > > Yep. My freezes last about 15 seconds and then suddenly everything is > responsive again. I had the "freezies" a couple of releases ago but it was gone in 12.10 and also in 13.04 > > My observation over the past few years is that for every thing that gets > fixed in a new release, in general something else breaks. 13.04 has not > conformed to this tradition in that there are definitely more broken things > here than there were in 12.10. For example, my monitor will no longer power > off after a period of inactivity. An old bug... some sessions it will turn off, some sessions not. I eventually put in a cron job of 3 * * * * /usr/bin/xset -display :0 dpms 1200,0,0 which seemed to help. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh at bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 06/10/13 19:10 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "No condition is permanent.' From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Jun 11 03:30:54 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 05:30:54 +0200 Subject: Even while writing this e-mail, the system 'froze' several times. In-Reply-To: <51B65480.2030505@gmail.com> References: <4452004.ZgllMiREMC@viaconsensus-home> <51B65480.2030505@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51B699EE.3080007@gmail.com> On 11/06/2013 00:34, D. R. Evans wrote: > Bas G. Roufs - En. said the following at 06/06/2013 04:57 AM : >> Hello Everybody , >> >> ever since Kubuntu 12.04 , the system 'freezes' several times each day. > > Yep. My freezes last about 15 seconds and then suddenly everything is > responsive again. > > This is on a desktop machine, and the issue did not occur prior to installing > 13.04. > I had to back off 13.04 due to the kernel suddenly not supporting vgaswitcheroo properly and this meant I could not get my hybrid AMD/Intel graphics working properly. Which meant hideously long first login, a weird looking desktop and freezes. By logging out and back in again it would work reasonably well though. Also apparently the broadcom drivers are botched, could not add any new wireless configurations to the existing. My "cure" was to return to 12.10, others suggested up- or downgrading kernel and so on. Sinclair From bbales at cox.net Tue Jun 11 16:36:33 2013 From: bbales at cox.net (Bruce Bales) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:36:33 -0500 Subject: Even while writing this e-mail, the system 'froze' several times. In-Reply-To: <9203569.QR7TOYYvLF@linux1> References: <4452004.ZgllMiREMC@viaconsensus-home> <51B65480.2030505@gmail.com> <9203569.QR7TOYYvLF@linux1> Message-ID: <51B75211.1020902@cox.net> On 06/10/2013 06:13 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday, June 10, 2013 04:34:40 PM D. R. Evans wrote: >> Bas G. Roufs - En. said the following at 06/06/2013 04:57 AM : >>> Hello Everybody , >>> >>> ever since Kubuntu 12.04 , the system 'freezes' several times each day. >> Yep. My freezes last about 15 seconds and then suddenly everything is >> responsive again. > I had the "freezies" a couple of releases ago but it was gone in 12.10 and > also in 13.04 > > > >> >> My observation over the past few years is that for every thing that gets >> fixed in a new release, in general something else breaks. 13.04 has not >> conformed to this tradition in that there are definitely more broken things >> here than there were in 12.10. For example, my monitor will no longer power >> off after a period of inactivity. > An old bug... some sessions it will turn off, some sessions not. I > eventually put in a cron job of > > 3 * * * * /usr/bin/xset -display :0 dpms 1200,0,0 > > > which seemed to help. > > > When I first heard of Linux, maybe ten years ago, there was talk that it should replace Windows. Everyone would use it. I started using it and have used it exclusively for about ten years, using Mandrake, Red Hat, Fedora, Mint, Puppy linux, Kubuntu 5, 6, 7, 8 and a bunch of others I have heard of and forgotten. I got along pretty well until Kubuntu 8.04 lost its support -- seems like it was about 2010 or 11. After 8.04 there was no more Kmail. Other things got complicated. I could no longer put a vertical panel on the left edge to hold icons for the programs I would use. Unimportant, large panels popped up where they block information. The panel across the bottom has unneeded information and doesn't have what I need. And the tabs on the bottom panel move around and like to pick their own location. There is a tab sticking out of the right side of my Kubuntu 12-04 screen that says "new activity." What do you suppose that means? What if someone had changed the name of Kubuntu 8-04 to Kubuntu-permanent, made some small changes to Kmail and supported it for another ten years? Maybe some of those Windows users might switch over. Maybe I wouldn't have spent the last three months trying to get a working system. Maybe someone besides a computer engineer could use it. Can you imagine the average Windows user doing "put in a cron job of 3 * * * * /usr/bin/xset -display :0 dpms 1200,0,0" ?? I'm sorry. I know I shouldn't complain. Linux free. But it could be so much better. bruce From phil_lor at bigpond.com Wed Jun 12 10:43:40 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:43:40 +0000 Subject: Clock time zone Message-ID: <51B850DC.5010509@bigpond.com> Thank you for reading this. Since a recent set of updates the time displayed is UTC time even though the KDE time zone settings are still set as they previously were. /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime still show the correct time zone, yet "date" displays UTC time. phil at Asus:~$ date Wed Jun 12 10:35:58 UTC 2013 As I said, this has only occurred during the past couple of days after a batch of updates were received. Is this a known problem? -- Regards, Phil From tuxmario.detreb at gmail.com Wed Jun 12 12:34:36 2013 From: tuxmario.detreb at gmail.com (TuxMario DeTreb) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:34:36 +0200 Subject: Clock time zone In-Reply-To: <51B850DC.5010509@bigpond.com> References: <51B850DC.5010509@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <51B86ADC.1030107@gmail.com> Hello Phil I'm running Raring with last official updates installed (last update done today morning) Your problem is not existing on my computer mario at mario-kde:~$ cat /etc/timezone Europe/Paris mario at mario-kde:~$ which date /bin/date mario at mario-kde:~$ date mercredi 12 juin 2013, 14:32:17 (UTC+0200) mario at mario-kde:~$ Regards : TuxMario Le 12/06/2013 12:43, Phil a écrit : > Thank you for reading this. > > Since a recent set of updates the time displayed is UTC time even > though the KDE time zone settings are still set as they previously were. > > /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime still show the correct time zone, yet > "date" displays UTC time. > > phil at Asus:~$ date > Wed Jun 12 10:35:58 UTC 2013 > > As I said, this has only occurred during the past couple of days after > a batch of updates were received. Is this a known problem? > From trym.side at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Jun 12 14:11:10 2013 From: trym.side at blueyonder.co.uk (Jim MacLeod) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:11:10 +0100 Subject: Clock time zone In-Reply-To: <51B850DC.5010509@bigpond.com> References: <51B850DC.5010509@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <20130612151110.0b8d68dfa09691786a43b357@blueyonder.co.uk> On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:43:40 +0000 Phil wrote: > Thank you for reading this. > > Since a recent set of updates the time displayed is UTC time even though > the KDE time zone settings are still set as they previously were. > > /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime still show the correct time zone, yet > "date" displays UTC time. > > phil at Asus:~$ date > Wed Jun 12 10:35:58 UTC 2013 > > As I said, this has only occurred during the past couple of days after a > batch of updates were received. Is this a known problem? > > -- If you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" and select your timezone it should remain after a reboot. > Regards, > Phil > HTH Jim From phil_lor at bigpond.com Wed Jun 12 23:33:05 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:33:05 +0000 Subject: Clock time zone In-Reply-To: <20130612151110.0b8d68dfa09691786a43b357@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <51B850DC.5010509@bigpond.com> <20130612151110.0b8d68dfa09691786a43b357@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <51B90531.3080506@bigpond.com> On 12/06/13 14:11, Jim MacLeod wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:43:40 +0000 > Phil wrote: > >> Thank you for reading this. >> >> Since a recent set of updates the time displayed is UTC time even though >> the KDE time zone settings are still set as they previously were. >> >> /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime still show the correct time zone, yet >> "date" displays UTC time. >> >> phil at Asus:~$ date >> Wed Jun 12 10:35:58 UTC 2013 >> >> As I said, this has only occurred during the past couple of days after a >> batch of updates were received. Is this a known problem? >> >> -- > If you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" and select your timezone it > should remain after a reboot. Thanks Jim and TuxMario, The above command already showed the correct time zone and after clicking "OK" the correct local time was displayed. However, once the system automatically checked the time via the time server the displayed time once again reverted back to UTC. So, the time server is setting the system to UTC. I noticed this effect, before I posted my question, if I manually set the time. I initially though the time server was at fault, due to a public holiday here, but this is very unlikely. -- Regards, Phil From errol at tzora.co.il Thu Jun 13 03:41:57 2013 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 06:41:57 +0300 Subject: Even while writing this e-mail, the system 'froze' several times. In-Reply-To: <51B699EE.3080007@gmail.com> References: <4452004.ZgllMiREMC@viaconsensus-home> <51B65480.2030505@gmail.com> <51B699EE.3080007@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51B93F85.6010805@tzora.co.il> Hi All Some recent observations on the "freezing" problem. 1. Bas and I both have AMD cpu's. Maybe there lies a problem that started with 12,10 and hasn't yet been solved? 2. I have recently upgrades to KDE 4.10.4 and I haven't frozen yet. True it is only a few days but things are looking better. Any similar observations? Errol On 06/11/2013 06:30 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 11/06/2013 00:34, D. R. Evans wrote: >> Bas G. Roufs - En. said the following at 06/06/2013 04:57 AM : >>> Hello Everybody , >>> >>> ever since Kubuntu 12.04 , the system 'freezes' several times each day. >> >> Yep. My freezes last about 15 seconds and then suddenly everything is >> responsive again. >> >> This is on a desktop machine, and the issue did not occur prior to >> installing >> 13.04. >> > > I had to back off 13.04 due to the kernel suddenly not supporting > vgaswitcheroo properly and this meant I could not get my hybrid > AMD/Intel graphics working properly. Which meant hideously long first > login, a weird looking desktop and freezes. By logging out and back in > again it would work reasonably well though. > > Also apparently the broadcom drivers are botched, could not add any new > wireless configurations to the existing. > > My "cure" was to return to 12.10, others suggested up- or downgrading > kernel and so on. > > Sinclair > From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Jun 13 19:07:28 2013 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:07:28 -0400 Subject: Even while writing this e-mail, the system 'froze' several times. In-Reply-To: <51B93F85.6010805@tzora.co.il> References: <4452004.ZgllMiREMC@viaconsensus-home> <51B699EE.3080007@gmail.com> <51B93F85.6010805@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <1612589.op1g75xzrI@linux1> On Thursday, June 13, 2013 06:41:57 AM Errol Sapir wrote: > Hi All > Some recent observations on the "freezing" problem. > 1. Bas and I both have AMD cpu's. Maybe there lies a problem that > started with 12,10 and hasn't yet been solved? > 2. I have recently upgrades to KDE 4.10.4 and I haven't frozen yet. True > it is only a few days but things are looking better. > Any similar observations? > Errol I'm running 13.04 on an AMD64 with no freezes. I had the freezes last in 12.04 I think... And in my opinion, the freezing in Kmail2, which is the only place I saw it, was due to Kmail2 doing some long operation on its data, maybe with the dreaded akonadi... Wish they would do away with akonadi... causes no end of problems. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh at bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 06/13/13 15:05 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "Law of Probability Dispersal: Whatever it is that hits the fan will not be evenly distributed." From gkourtev at gmail.com Thu Jun 13 20:18:57 2013 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 23:18:57 +0300 Subject: Some emails temporary disappear Message-ID: <2464132.WWtk5jFmKd@gkourtev-laptop> Hi to all, I have somewhat strange behaviour of Kmail from time to time. With no particular reason I have some mails missing in folders. For example in a folder that I have mails 6+ months old, I see only mails from the last two days. Or in a mail folder that indicates 2 unread messages all are read... The only solution I have found is to restart akonadi and then -- all is fine -- messages appears folders correctly. Does anyone got this too? Any permanent solution as I don't think I have to restart akonadi each time. Running 12.04.02 with KDE 4.10.4 -- all updates. Thanks for any guidance, gk From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Jun 13 20:28:28 2013 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:28:28 -0400 Subject: Some emails temporary disappear In-Reply-To: <2464132.WWtk5jFmKd@gkourtev-laptop> References: <2464132.WWtk5jFmKd@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <1436413.HTEb7Es8UW@linux1> On Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:18:57 PM Georgi Kourtev wrote: > Hi to all, > > I have somewhat strange behaviour of Kmail from time to time. With no > particular reason I have some mails missing in folders. For example in a > folder that I have mails 6+ months old, I see only mails from the last two > days. Or in a mail folder that indicates 2 unread messages all are read... > > The only solution I have found is to restart akonadi and then -- all is fine > -- messages appears folders correctly. > > Does anyone got this too? Any permanent solution as I don't think I have to > restart akonadi each time. > > Running 12.04.02 with KDE 4.10.4 -- all updates. > > Thanks for any guidance, > gk I have this occasionally on 13.04 amd64 Just restarting Kmail seems to solve the problem. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh at bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 06/13/13 16:27 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "If u cn rd ths, itn tyg h myxbl cd." From valtermura at gmail.com Thu Jun 13 22:16:16 2013 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 00:16:16 +0200 Subject: Even while writing this e-mail, the system 'froze' several times. In-Reply-To: <4452004.ZgllMiREMC@viaconsensus-home> References: <4452004.ZgllMiREMC@viaconsensus-home> Message-ID: <2063226.CbhPRGMvbg@valter-desktop> In data giovedì 6 giugno 2013 12:57:24, Bas G. Roufs - En. ha scritto: > Hello Everybody , > > ever since Kubuntu 12.04 , the system 'freezes' several times each day. > Especially, when multitasking, the system gets stuck suddenly - at such a > moment, nothing is possible any more except taking out the battery and > restarting the system altogether. But also when working ONLY with e.g.. > Firefox or Kontact, something like this can happen. Now, I am working ONLY > with Kontact - however, the system froze already several times while I was > writing this e-mail. I also needed one time to forcibly terminate and > restart Kontact. > > At present, I am working at a netbook, HP Pavilion dm 1 - AMD Dualcore 1,66 > GHz, 500 GB HD, 32 bits. The system now is a fresh install of Kubuntu > 13.04, along with KDE 4.10.2. Nothing to notice here, Kubuntu 13.04, KDE 4.10.3, 64-bit Assembled Intel i7, 2 TB H.D., suspension works smoothly. Ciao -- Valter Open Source is better! KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org From thomas at tanghus.net Thu Jun 13 23:37:33 2013 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Tanghus) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 01:37:33 +0200 Subject: Clock time zone In-Reply-To: <51B90531.3080506@bigpond.com> References: <51B850DC.5010509@bigpond.com> <20130612151110.0b8d68dfa09691786a43b357@blueyonder.co.uk> <51B90531.3080506@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <6939837.NnYUAWulYh@tanghus> On Wednesday 12 June 2013 23:33 Phil wrote: > On 12/06/13 14:11, Jim MacLeod wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:43:40 +0000 > > > > Phil wrote: > >> Thank you for reading this. > >> > >> Since a recent set of updates the time displayed is UTC time even though > >> the KDE time zone settings are still set as they previously were. > >> > >> /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime still show the correct time zone, yet > >> "date" displays UTC time. > >> > >> phil at Asus:~$ date > >> Wed Jun 12 10:35:58 UTC 2013 > >> > >> As I said, this has only occurred during the past couple of days after a > >> batch of updates were received. Is this a known problem? > >> > >> -- > > > > If you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" and select your timezone it > > should remain after a reboot. > > Thanks Jim and TuxMario, > > The above command already showed the correct time zone and after > clicking "OK" the correct local time was displayed. However, once the > system automatically checked the time via the time server the displayed > time once again reverted back to UTC. > > So, the time server is setting the system to UTC. I noticed this effect, > before I posted my question, if I manually set the time. I initially > though the time server was at fault, due to a public holiday here, but > this is very unlikely. The Kubuntu devs have made a post about this: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?62995 -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus From phil_lor at bigpond.com Thu Jun 13 23:53:20 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:53:20 +1000 Subject: Clock time zone In-Reply-To: <6939837.NnYUAWulYh@tanghus> References: <51B850DC.5010509@bigpond.com> <20130612151110.0b8d68dfa09691786a43b357@blueyonder.co.uk> <51B90531.3080506@bigpond.com> <6939837.NnYUAWulYh@tanghus> Message-ID: <51BA5B70.7070709@bigpond.com> On 14/06/13 09:37, Thomas Tanghus wrote: > On Wednesday 12 June 2013 23:33 Phil wrote: >> On 12/06/13 14:11, Jim MacLeod wrote: >>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:43:40 +0000 >>> >>> Phil wrote: >>>> Thank you for reading this. >>>> >>>> Since a recent set of updates the time displayed is UTC time even though >>>> the KDE time zone settings are still set as they previously were. >>>> >>>> /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime still show the correct time zone, yet >>>> "date" displays UTC time. >>>> >>>> phil at Asus:~$ date >>>> Wed Jun 12 10:35:58 UTC 2013 >>>> >>>> As I said, this has only occurred during the past couple of days after a >>>> batch of updates were received. Is this a known problem? >>>> >>>> -- >>> >>> If you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" and select your timezone it >>> should remain after a reboot. >> >> Thanks Jim and TuxMario, >> >> The above command already showed the correct time zone and after >> clicking "OK" the correct local time was displayed. However, once the >> system automatically checked the time via the time server the displayed >> time once again reverted back to UTC. >> >> So, the time server is setting the system to UTC. I noticed this effect, >> before I posted my question, if I manually set the time. I initially >> though the time server was at fault, due to a public holiday here, but >> this is very unlikely. > > The Kubuntu devs have made a post about this: > http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?62995 Thanks Thomas, it's reassuring to know that this is a known problem. -- Regards, Phil From phil_lor at bigpond.com Sun Jun 16 09:27:02 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 19:27:02 +1000 Subject: Wireless printing Message-ID: <51BD84E6.70208@bigpond.com> Thank you for reading this. I'd like to set up a printer wireless network connection. It was a simple task to add the printer to an Ethernet connection, so if all else fails I do have a network connected printer. It wasn't until after I got the printer working wirelessly under Windows that Kubuntu was able to detect the printer and this is the connection that was assigned: dnssd://HP%20LaserJet%20100%20colorMFP%20M175nw%20(7B433F)._ipp._tcp.local/ However, when I attempt to print something the system is unable to find the printer. If I then attempt to add a new printer again the printer is not found until I power the printer down and then back up again. A connection is again assigned but the printer is again not found after a test print has been attempted. Should the connection include the IP address? I have a fixed wireless address for the printer. -- Regards, Phil From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun Jun 16 11:26:09 2013 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:26:09 +1000 Subject: Wireless printing In-Reply-To: <51BD84E6.70208@bigpond.com> References: <51BD84E6.70208@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <3822222.8C2nfL8CMx@lindsay-office> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 07:27:02 PM Phil wrote: > Should the connection include the IP address? I have a fixed wireless > address for the printer. That works better for me with my Brother. An ipp:// or lpd://url usually works. Not sure on the format for an HP printer though. -- Lindsay -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jfrantzius at gmail.com Sun Jun 16 20:50:57 2013 From: jfrantzius at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_von_Frantzius?=) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:50:57 +0200 Subject: Wireless printing In-Reply-To: <3822222.8C2nfL8CMx@lindsay-office> References: <51BD84E6.70208@bigpond.com> <3822222.8C2nfL8CMx@lindsay-office> Message-ID: Got a printer here that does Google Cloud Print. That does work well for me to solve my printing woes on Linux (or even *wireless* printing woes). If your printer per chance supports it, I can only recommend it. It does work only for things you can view in Chrome, so may need to generate a PDF before being able to print. Regards, Jörg 2013/6/16 Lindsay Mathieson > On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 07:27:02 PM Phil wrote: > > Should the connection include the IP address? I have a fixed wireless > > address for the printer. > > > That works better for me with my Brother. An ipp:// or lpd://url usually > works. Not sure on the format for an HP printer though. > -- > Lindsay > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- Hier miniblogge ich so vor mich hin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Jun 17 04:22:14 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 06:22:14 +0200 Subject: Wireless printing In-Reply-To: <51BD84E6.70208@bigpond.com> References: <51BD84E6.70208@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <51BE8EF6.7020808@gmail.com> On 16/06/2013 11:27, Phil wrote: > Thank you for reading this. > > I'd like to set up a printer wireless network connection. It was a > simple task to add the printer to an Ethernet connection, so if all else > fails I do have a network connected printer. > > It wasn't until after I got the printer working wirelessly under Windows > that Kubuntu was able to detect the printer and this is the connection > that was assigned: > > dnssd://HP%20LaserJet%20100%20colorMFP%20M175nw%20(7B433F)._ipp._tcp.local/ > > However, when I attempt to print something the system is unable to find > the printer. If I then attempt to add a new printer again the printer is > not found until I power the printer down and then back up again. A > connection is again assigned but the printer is again not found after a > test print has been attempted. > > Should the connection include the IP address? I have a fixed wireless > address for the printer. > I would try printing to an ip address, that works for me with a wireless HP printer (2 actually, one laserjet and one multifunction inkjet). I sometimes have to do the "power off/on" with the laserjet but there is no pattern to when that happens. From phil_lor at bigpond.com Mon Jun 17 06:29:20 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:29:20 +1000 Subject: Wireless printing In-Reply-To: <51BE8EF6.7020808@gmail.com> References: <51BD84E6.70208@bigpond.com> <51BE8EF6.7020808@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51BEACC0.7030008@bigpond.com> On 17/06/13 14:22, O. Sinclair wrote: >> > I would try printing to an ip address, that works for me with a wireless > HP printer (2 actually, one laserjet and one multifunction inkjet). I > sometimes have to do the "power off/on" with the laserjet but there is > no pattern to when that happens. Thanks Lindsay, Jorg and O, I'm at the point of giving the idea of wireless printing away and run an Ethernet cable instead. Is this what you meant by an IP address? ipp://10.0.0.9 The previous attempt was met by a "printer not found message" and this one displays "connecting to printer" followed by "printer not responding". -- Regards, Phil From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Jun 17 07:12:39 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:12:39 +0200 Subject: Wireless printing In-Reply-To: <51BEACC0.7030008@bigpond.com> References: <51BD84E6.70208@bigpond.com> <51BE8EF6.7020808@gmail.com> <51BEACC0.7030008@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <51BEB6E7.6030506@gmail.com> On 17/06/2013 08:29, Phil wrote: > On 17/06/13 14:22, O. Sinclair wrote: >>> >> I would try printing to an ip address, that works for me with a wireless >> HP printer (2 actually, one laserjet and one multifunction inkjet). I >> sometimes have to do the "power off/on" with the laserjet but there is >> no pattern to when that happens. > > Thanks Lindsay, Jorg and O, > > I'm at the point of giving the idea of wireless printing away and run an > Ethernet cable instead. > > Is this what you meant by an IP address? > > ipp://10.0.0.9 > > The previous attempt was met by a "printer not found message" and this > one displays "connecting to printer" followed by "printer not responding". > No, in my case it says under connection: socket://192.168.20.27:9100 the subnet would of course be whatever you are using in your LAN. 9100 is the port that HP use. From phil_lor at bigpond.com Mon Jun 17 08:49:19 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:49:19 +1000 Subject: Wireless printing In-Reply-To: <51BEB6E7.6030506@gmail.com> References: <51BD84E6.70208@bigpond.com> <51BE8EF6.7020808@gmail.com> <51BEACC0.7030008@bigpond.com> <51BEB6E7.6030506@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51BECD8F.1040807@bigpond.com> On 17/06/13 17:12, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 17/06/2013 08:29, Phil wrote: >> On 17/06/13 14:22, O. Sinclair wrote: >>>> >>> I would try printing to an ip address, that works for me with a wireless >>> HP printer (2 actually, one laserjet and one multifunction inkjet). I >>> sometimes have to do the "power off/on" with the laserjet but there is >>> no pattern to when that happens. >> >> Thanks Lindsay, Jorg and O, >> >> I'm at the point of giving the idea of wireless printing away and run an >> Ethernet cable instead. >> >> Is this what you meant by an IP address? >> >> ipp://10.0.0.9 >> >> The previous attempt was met by a "printer not found message" and this >> one displays "connecting to printer" followed by "printer not >> responding". >> > No, in my case it says under connection: > socket://192.168.20.27:9100 > > the subnet would of course be whatever you are using in your LAN. 9100 > is the port that HP use. Still no go. The error message reads: "in use - 'The printer is not responding'" socket://10.0.0.9:9100 And I cannot establish a connection under Firefox which makes me think that the printer and the router are incompatible. The HP easy method is to use the router's WPS function but that didn't work and I had to set the printer up manually under Windows. -- Regards, Phil From gilgib1 at verizon.net Mon Jun 17 11:23:57 2013 From: gilgib1 at verizon.net (Gil Gibbons) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:23:57 -0400 Subject: Wireless printing In-Reply-To: <51BECD8F.1040807@bigpond.com> References: <51BD84E6.70208@bigpond.com> <51BE8EF6.7020808@gmail.com> <51BEACC0.7030008@bigpond.com> <51BEB6E7.6030506@gmail.com> <51BECD8F.1040807@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <51BEF1CD.7030901@verizon.net> On 06/17/2013 04:49 AM, Phil wrote: > On 17/06/13 17:12, O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 17/06/2013 08:29, Phil wrote: >>> On 17/06/13 14:22, O. Sinclair wrote: >>>>> >>>> I would try printing to an ip address, that works for me with a >>>> wireless >>>> HP printer (2 actually, one laserjet and one multifunction inkjet). I >>>> sometimes have to do the "power off/on" with the laserjet but there is >>>> no pattern to when that happens. >>> >>> Thanks Lindsay, Jorg and O, >>> >>> I'm at the point of giving the idea of wireless printing away and run an >>> Ethernet cable instead. >>> >>> Is this what you meant by an IP address? >>> >>> ipp://10.0.0.9 >>> >>> The previous attempt was met by a "printer not found message" and this >>> one displays "connecting to printer" followed by "printer not >>> responding". >>> >> No, in my case it says under connection: >> socket://192.168.20.27:9100 >> >> the subnet would of course be whatever you are using in your LAN. 9100 >> is the port that HP use. > > Still no go. The error message reads: > > "in use - 'The printer is not responding'" > > socket://10.0.0.9:9100 > > And I cannot establish a connection under Firefox which makes me think > that the printer and the router are incompatible. The HP easy method is > to use the router's WPS function but that didn't work and I had to set > the printer up manually under Windows. > I Have a HP8600 and download and ran sh hplip-3.13.5.run. It installed my Wireless setup. hp:/net/Officejet_Pro_8600?zc=HP28924AB63A4C ip address 192.168.1.2 Host Name: HPC25126 , (MAC) Address: 28924AB63A4C Gil From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Jun 17 16:28:00 2013 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:28 -0400 Subject: Wireless printing In-Reply-To: <51BEACC0.7030008@bigpond.com> References: <51BD84E6.70208@bigpond.com> <51BE8EF6.7020808@gmail.com> <51BEACC0.7030008@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <1732065.Bl21HLOh53@linux1> On Monday, June 17, 2013 04:29:20 PM Phil wrote: > On 17/06/13 14:22, O. Sinclair wrote: > > I would try printing to an ip address, that works for me with a wireless > > HP printer (2 actually, one laserjet and one multifunction inkjet). I > > sometimes have to do the "power off/on" with the laserjet but there is > > no pattern to when that happens. > > Thanks Lindsay, Jorg and O, > > I'm at the point of giving the idea of wireless printing away and run an > Ethernet cable instead. > > Is this what you meant by an IP address? > > ipp://10.0.0.9 > > The previous attempt was met by a "printer not found message" and this > one displays "connecting to printer" followed by "printer not responding". I have an HP 1525NW printer here that is wireless..... and I can print to it both from my LAN and also from iPad devices... But my router is setup as an access point which means that I can set a static IP for the printer and it will be seen by the entire network. I have two *wired* network printers at: 192.168.0.11 and 192.168.0.12 and the wireless printer is at: 192.168.0.13 to set up the HP1525, I went into cups (http://localhost:631) and defined the printer as: *Description:* HP LaserJet CP1525nw *Location:* office *Driver:* HP Color LaserJet cp1515n pcl3, hpcups 3.13.3 (color, 2-sided printing) *Connection:* socket://192.168.0.13 and I selected the profile for the printer from the list of printers. Note that I had to select "CP1515N" instead of CP1525NW because they didn't have an entry for the 1525. But it works just fine. Hope this helps. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh at bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 06/17/13 12:22 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "Smile, it makes the world wonder what you are up to." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Jun 17 16:31:17 2013 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:31:17 -0400 Subject: Wireless printing In-Reply-To: <51BECD8F.1040807@bigpond.com> References: <51BD84E6.70208@bigpond.com> <51BEB6E7.6030506@gmail.com> <51BECD8F.1040807@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <1719303.UG8tYclHGe@linux1> On Monday, June 17, 2013 06:49:19 PM Phil wrote: > Still no go. The error message reads: > > "in use - 'The printer is not responding'" > > socket://10.0.0.9:9100 > > And I cannot establish a connection under Firefox which makes me think > that the printer and the router are incompatible. The HP easy method is > to use the router's WPS function but that didn't work and I had to set > the printer up manually under Windows. In cups, select the printer as Appsocket/HP jetDirect And... if you can't ping the printer, once you think you've set up the static IP address, then you're not going to print to it... that needs to be fixed. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh at bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 06/17/13 12:29 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "Never hold a cat and a dust buster at the same time." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Tue Jun 18 20:27:11 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:27:11 +0200 Subject: Problems with BlueGriffon after an update? This is how I solved them. Message-ID: Dear Everybody, Today a new version of BlueGriffon came in from the GetDeb repo: version 1.7.1. The update went smoothly. But another little problem popped up. When trying to start the package, I got the following error report: ======================================== XML Parsing Error: undefined entity Location: chrome://bluegriffon/content/xul/bluegriffon.xul Line Number 63, Column 1: From magick.crow at gmail.com Wed Jun 19 10:58:03 2013 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:58:03 +0200 Subject: Even while writing this e-mail, the system 'froze' several times. In-Reply-To: <51B75211.1020902@cox.net> References: <4452004.ZgllMiREMC@viaconsensus-home> <51B65480.2030505@gmail.com> <9203569.QR7TOYYvLF@linux1> <51B75211.1020902@cox.net> Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Bruce Bales wrote: > On 06/10/2013 06:13 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >> >> On Monday, June 10, 2013 04:34:40 PM D. R. Evans wrote: >>> >>> Bas G. Roufs - En. said the following at 06/06/2013 04:57 AM : >>>> >>>> Hello Everybody , >>>> >>>> ever since Kubuntu 12.04 , the system 'freezes' several times each day. >>> >>> Yep. My freezes last about 15 seconds and then suddenly everything is >>> responsive again. >> >> I had the "freezies" a couple of releases ago but it was gone in 12.10 and >> also in 13.04 >> >> >> >>> >>> My observation over the past few years is that for every thing that gets >>> fixed in a new release, in general something else breaks. 13.04 has not >>> conformed to this tradition in that there are definitely more broken >>> things >>> here than there were in 12.10. For example, my monitor will no longer >>> power >>> off after a period of inactivity. >> >> An old bug... some sessions it will turn off, some sessions not. I >> eventually put in a cron job of >> >> 3 * * * * /usr/bin/xset -display :0 dpms 1200,0,0 >> >> >> which seemed to help. >> >> >> > When I first heard of Linux, maybe ten years ago, there was talk that it > should replace Windows. Everyone would use it. I started using it and have > used it exclusively for about ten years, using Mandrake, Red Hat, Fedora, > Mint, Puppy linux, Kubuntu 5, 6, 7, 8 and a bunch of others I have heard of > and forgotten. I got along pretty well until Kubuntu 8.04 lost its support > -- seems like it was about 2010 or 11. > > After 8.04 there was no more Kmail. Other things got complicated. I could > no longer put a vertical panel on the left edge to hold icons for the > programs I would use. Unimportant, large panels popped up where they block > information. The panel across the bottom has unneeded information and > doesn't have what I need. And the tabs on the bottom panel move around and > like to pick their own location. > > There is a tab sticking out of the right side of my Kubuntu 12-04 screen > that says "new activity." What do you suppose that means? > > What if someone had changed the name of Kubuntu 8-04 to Kubuntu-permanent, > made some small changes to Kmail and supported it for another ten years? > Maybe some of those Windows users might switch over. Maybe I wouldn't have > spent the last three months trying to get a working system. Maybe someone > besides a computer engineer could use it. > > Can you imagine the average Windows user doing > > "put in a cron job of 3 * * * * /usr/bin/xset -display :0 dpms 1200,0,0" > ?? > > I'm sorry. I know I shouldn't complain. Linux free. But it could be so > much better. > bruce Yes, it could! I started having problems at the same time so I started distro hoping. I landed on Sabayon KDE. There are no updates every 6 months or 4 years whichever you like the most. It does update but it is like a normal update on Kubuntu. Pluses: Super fast, super stable and bleeding edge software. No more updates!!!!!! And really the most important thing ever! The more a distro is made for "normal users", the less help you can find in a list like this or board. Sabayon does not seek newbies and thus newbies get good answers when they ask on the forum!! Cons: updates tend to break really stupid stuff like turning off my nvidia driver leaving me stuck on the command line. Updates like to replace your login settings (I auto login and this is reset to password every time. I do know why but still a pain.) The newest and beta stuff is released for ubuntu but not anyone else and then comes the other top 10 but not Sabayon. On the other hand the Sabayon Forum is so good that they will help you install it. Auto clock update is not installed???? Dumb, no? I click the update button about once a month but super dumb! Not quite a con but the KDE system does not have a lot of default stuff installed like sound meta and graphics meta. Equo search meta and install it all. Some stuff like cvcdvd or whatever that encryption is called gets uninstalled sometimes. Other strange things that come from not having enough eyes on the system as it is built up. Nothing too bad but not super newbie friendly. Normal users should give it a spin!! My system installs Krita, blender 3d, VLC, Clementine, digikam, wacom drivers, Chrome, Libreoffice, Skype, Kcalc, Audacity, XBMC for when VLC breaks, Kate, Okular, KIM, K3d, DVDisaster (free to copy everything mod), VIM, Htop, NVidia X Server Setting, LuckyBackup, Ark file formats Like RAR and 7Zip (Why not default? Don't know), Klipper. Other graphics stuff, gimp, mypaint, inkscape, Adorky flash player. It is the best system I have ever used including old XP. -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From basroufs at gmail.com Wed Jun 19 12:28:28 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas G. Roufs - En.) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:28:28 +0200 Subject: Showing a video: which package works best? Message-ID: <2389926.5OCs6NmiHg@viaconsensus-home> Hello Everybody, this Friday evening I need to publicly show a video via a beamer. So, I need to use a safe package I can rely on. Who has practical video show experience with VLC, Dragon Player or any other package? Thanks for your thoughts. Bas. -- */Bas G. Roufs MA/* Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com[1]; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 13.04, see kubuntu.org[2] .Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu -------- [1] mailto:BasRoufs at gmail.com [2] http://kubuntu.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Wed Jun 19 13:37:43 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:37:43 +0200 Subject: Showing a video: which package works best? In-Reply-To: <2389926.5OCs6NmiHg@viaconsensus-home> References: <2389926.5OCs6NmiHg@viaconsensus-home> Message-ID: Hello Everybody, Less then an hour ago, I posted you this question: > this Friday evening I need to publicly show a video via a beamer. So, I need to use a safe package I can rely on. > Who has practical video show experience with VLC, Dragon Player or any other package? Now, I need to reformulate this question. About one hour ago, I tried both VLC and Dragonplayer while Kontact, akonadi and virtuoso were still running. The film had a lot of hiccups because Kontact, akonadi and virtuoso "eat" often all the available CPU. A few minutes ago, I disabled Nepomuk, Virtuoso and Kontact. After doing so, both VLC and Dragonplayer worked perfectly well. Nepomuk I switched off via SYSTEM SETTINGS > desktop search. Kontact and Virtuoso, I 'killed' via the "system activity" window from the panel. My question is now: are these measures enough to make sure that not any process will interfere the film at some moment? I would appreciate getting one or a few answers to this question. Respectfully yours, Bas Roufs. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . From magick.crow at gmail.com Wed Jun 19 15:21:24 2013 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:21:24 +0200 Subject: Showing a video: which package works best? In-Reply-To: References: <2389926.5OCs6NmiHg@viaconsensus-home> Message-ID: Try running with nice set to -20. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_(Unix) On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Bas Roufs wrote: > Hello Everybody, > > Less then an hour ago, I posted you this question: > >> this Friday evening I need to publicly show a video via a beamer. So, I need to use a safe package I can rely on. >> Who has practical video show experience with VLC, Dragon Player or any other package? > > > Now, I need to reformulate this question. > > About one hour ago, I tried both VLC and Dragonplayer while Kontact, > akonadi and virtuoso were still running. The film had a lot of > hiccups because Kontact, akonadi and virtuoso "eat" often all the > available CPU. > A few minutes ago, I disabled Nepomuk, Virtuoso and Kontact. After > doing so, both VLC and Dragonplayer worked perfectly well. > > Nepomuk I switched off via SYSTEM SETTINGS > desktop search. Kontact > and Virtuoso, I 'killed' via the "system activity" window from the > panel. > My question is now: are these measures enough to make sure that not > any process will interfere the film at some moment? > > I would appreciate getting one or a few answers to this question. > > Respectfully yours, > > Bas Roufs. > > -- > > Bas G. Roufs MA > > Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht > > E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. > > Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . > Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From magick.crow at gmail.com Wed Jun 19 15:24:31 2013 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:24:31 +0200 Subject: Showing a video: which package works best? In-Reply-To: References: <2389926.5OCs6NmiHg@viaconsensus-home> Message-ID: Also take a look at preferences-advanced in VLC you can set it to have top priority and also real time. -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu Jun 20 01:27:27 2013 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:27:27 +1000 Subject: Showing a video: which package works best? In-Reply-To: References: <2389926.5OCs6NmiHg@viaconsensus-home> Message-ID: <51C25A7F.80608@iinet.net.au> On 19/06/13 23:37, Bas Roufs wrote: > Hello Everybody, > > Less then an hour ago, I posted you this question: > >> this Friday evening I need to publicly show a video via a beamer. So, I need to use a safe package I can rely on. >> Who has practical video show experience with VLC, Dragon Player or any other package? > > Now, I need to reformulate this question. > > About one hour ago, I tried both VLC and Dragonplayer while Kontact, > akonadi and virtuoso were still running. The film had a lot of > hiccups because Kontact, akonadi and virtuoso "eat" often all the > available CPU. > A few minutes ago, I disabled Nepomuk, Virtuoso and Kontact. After > doing so, both VLC and Dragonplayer worked perfectly well. > > Nepomuk I switched off via SYSTEM SETTINGS > desktop search. Kontact > and Virtuoso, I 'killed' via the "system activity" window from the > panel. > My question is now: are these measures enough to make sure that not > any process will interfere the film at some moment? > > I would appreciate getting one or a few answers to this question. In VLC, go: Tools>Preferences>Show Settings ALL (bottom left)>Video>Disable Screensaver and then move (back) to the ADVANCED tab and there select Inhibit Power Management. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.4 & kernel 3.9.6-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Sat Jun 22 02:01:43 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 02:01:43 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive Message-ID: All, I just today bought Seagate Backup Plus (2TB) external drive. It seems to come with Windows/Mac2 compatible auto-backup software. My question is : 1. the auto backup software may not work under Linux. In that event would manual backup be possible? 2. Kubuntu has "Lucky Backup" software. Would that work on these Seagate Drives. (I personally see no reason not to..) I just wanted to be sure.. Thanks, Ramesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phil_lor at bigpond.com Sat Jun 22 04:20:41 2013 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 14:20:41 +1000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51C52619.9020607@bigpond.com> On 22/06/13 12:01, Ramesh Rao wrote: > All, > > I just today bought Seagate Backup Plus (2TB) external drive. It seems > to come with Windows/Mac2 compatible auto-backup software. > > My question is : > > 1. the auto backup software may not work under Linux. In that event > would manual backup be possible? > > 2. Kubuntu has "Lucky Backup" software. Would that work on these Seagate > Drives. (I personally see no reason not to..) > > I just wanted to be sure.. > I've used Luckybackup for quite awhile and it works well. I have two external USB drives for backups, just in case. -- Regards, Phil From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Sat Jun 22 05:07:52 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 05:07:52 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: <51C52619.9020607@bigpond.com> References: , <51C52619.9020607@bigpond.com> Message-ID: Thanks Phil. Meanwhile in the last hour I tried to connect the device - unfortunately I don't see any light (any sort) on the device. Nor any "icon" opens up on the monitor. "Dolphin" File Manager does not show any new mounted drives either. The device does not seem to have been "detected" at all. Am I missing something? Thanks, Ramesh > Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 14:20:41 +1000 > From: phil_lor at bigpond.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > > On 22/06/13 12:01, Ramesh Rao wrote: > > All, > > > > I just today bought Seagate Backup Plus (2TB) external drive. It seems > > to come with Windows/Mac2 compatible auto-backup software. > > > > My question is : > > > > 1. the auto backup software may not work under Linux. In that event > > would manual backup be possible? > > > > 2. Kubuntu has "Lucky Backup" software. Would that work on these Seagate > > Drives. (I personally see no reason not to..) > > > > I just wanted to be sure.. > > > > I've used Luckybackup for quite awhile and it works well. I have two > external USB drives for backups, just in case. > > -- > Regards, > Phil > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gldvorak at gmail.com Sat Jun 22 05:47:29 2013 From: gldvorak at gmail.com (George Dvorak) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 22:47:29 -0700 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: <51C52619.9020607@bigpond.com> Message-ID: i would look at the drive with gparted or with KDE partition manager and see what that finds. I use baclkintime for my backups for a couple of years now and am very pleased with it. On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Ramesh Rao wrote: > Thanks Phil. > > Meanwhile in the last hour I tried to connect the device - unfortunately I > don't see any light (any sort) on the device. Nor any "icon" opens up on > the monitor. > > "Dolphin" File Manager does not show any new mounted drives either. The > device does not seem to have been "detected" at all. > > Am I missing something? > > Thanks, > Ramesh > > > > > Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 14:20:41 +1000 > > From: phil_lor at bigpond.com > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > > > > > On 22/06/13 12:01, Ramesh Rao wrote: > > > All, > > > > > > I just today bought Seagate Backup Plus (2TB) external drive. It seems > > > to come with Windows/Mac2 compatible auto-backup software. > > > > > > My question is : > > > > > > 1. the auto backup software may not work under Linux. In that event > > > would manual backup be possible? > > > > > > 2. Kubuntu has "Lucky Backup" software. Would that work on these > Seagate > > > Drives. (I personally see no reason not to..) > > > > > > I just wanted to be sure.. > > > > > > > I've used Luckybackup for quite awhile and it works well. I have two > > external USB drives for backups, just in case. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Phil > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The >> device does not seem to have been "detected" at all. >> >> Am I missing something? >> >> Thanks, >> Ramesh >> >> >> >> > Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 14:20:41 +1000 >> > From: phil_lor at bigpond.com >> > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive >> >> > >> > On 22/06/13 12:01, Ramesh Rao wrote: >> > > All, >> > > >> > > I just today bought Seagate Backup Plus (2TB) external drive. It seems >> > > to come with Windows/Mac2 compatible auto-backup software. >> > > >> > > My question is : >> > > >> > > 1. the auto backup software may not work under Linux. In that event >> > > would manual backup be possible? >> > > >> > > 2. Kubuntu has "Lucky Backup" software. Would that work on these >> Seagate >> > > Drives. (I personally see no reason not to..) >> > > >> > > I just wanted to be sure.. >> > > >> > >> > I've used Luckybackup for quite awhile and it works well. I have two >> > external USB drives for backups, just in case. >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > Phil >> > >> > -- >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For some strange reason, the USB icon disappeared from my panel after a recent update and so I had to use the cashew to add the widget. -- Regards, Phil From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Jun 22 06:12:05 2013 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 16:12:05 +1000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: <51C52619.9020607@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <2131406.Gkf4Aiigt4@lindsay-office> On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 05:07:52 AM Ramesh Rao wrote: > Thanks Phil. > > Meanwhile in the last hour I tried to connect the device - unfortunately I > don't see any light (any sort) on the device. Nor any "icon" opens up on > the monitor. Hows it connected? USB? -- Lindsay -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Jun 22 06:32:32 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:32:32 +0200 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51C54500.9090203@gmail.com> On 22/06/2013 04:01, Ramesh Rao wrote: > All, > > I just today bought Seagate Backup Plus (2TB) external drive. It seems > to come with Windows/Mac2 compatible auto-backup software. > > My question is : > > 1. the auto backup software may not work under Linux. In that event > would manual backup be possible? > > 2. Kubuntu has "Lucky Backup" software. Would that work on these Seagate > Drives. (I personally see no reason not to..) > > I just wanted to be sure.. > > Thanks, > Ramesh > > > > I have been using Luckybackup for years and I HAVE done restore from an external usb backup disk with Luckybackup so I know it works. Having said that I reformatted the USB to ext3 format. I don't think it is necessary but it helps in keeping all file information. Fat32 does not, by design, keep all info. Mine is a Clie disk but I don't think that brand matters at all (I have used several brands), it should work "out of the box". If you have one of those that requires 2 usb ports don't forget to connect both or it might not work at all. Kind regards, Sinclair From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Sat Jun 22 10:52:20 2013 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:52:20 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <112909.979277418-sendEmail@xpresso> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 03:52:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Vance X-X-Sender: kbun at xpresso.com To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Firefox Problem Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know which file in .mozilla contains the passwords for various websites? Firefox is misbehaving *again*, and while I can save the bookmarks file without a problem, and copy it back after dumping the contents of .mozillam and inserting a fresh copy of it, I really don't want to have to piecemeal redo all my passwords through email etc. Bill From gilgib1 at verizon.net Sat Jun 22 11:04:47 2013 From: gilgib1 at verizon.net (Gil Gibbons) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 07:04:47 -0400 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <112909.979277418-sendEmail@xpresso> References: <112909.979277418-sendEmail@xpresso> Message-ID: <51C584CF.2040709@verizon.net> On 06/22/2013 06:52 AM, kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org wrote: > Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 03:52:20 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bill Vance > X-X-Sender: kbun at xpresso.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Firefox Problem > Message-ID: > User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII > > > Does anyone know which file in .mozilla contains the > passwords for various websites? Firefox is misbehaving > *again*, and while I can save the bookmarks file without > a problem, and copy it back after dumping the contents of > .mozillam and inserting a fresh copy of it, I really don't > want to have to piecemeal redo all my passwords through > email etc. > > Bill > > > > > See this link https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Recovering%20important%20data%20from%20an%20old%20profile From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat Jun 22 11:07:06 2013 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 21:07:06 +1000 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <112909.979277418-sendEmail@xpresso> References: <112909.979277418-sendEmail@xpresso> Message-ID: <51C5855A.6020007@iinet.net.au> On 22/06/13 20:52, kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org wrote: > Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 03:52:20 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bill Vance > X-X-Sender: kbun at xpresso.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Firefox Problem > Message-ID: > User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII > > > Does anyone know which file in .mozilla contains the > passwords for various websites? Firefox is misbehaving > *again*, and while I can save the bookmarks file without > a problem, and copy it back after dumping the contents of > .mozillam and inserting a fresh copy of it, I really don't > want to have to piecemeal redo all my passwords through > email etc. > > Bill https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Recovering%20important%20data%20from%20an%20old%20profile?esab=a&s=password+file&r=1&as=s BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.4 & kernel 3.9.6-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From basroufs at gmail.com Sat Jun 22 12:15:25 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas G. Roufs - En.) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 14:15:25 +0200 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3027166.hX94Jh7hmW@viaconsensus-home> Hello Ramesh, > I just today bought Seagate Backup Plus (2TB) external drive. It seems to > come with Windows/Mac2 compatible auto-backup software. simply forget about this windows/ mac software. Whipe them away or copy it temporarily to somewhere else - anyway, you do not need it. There are plenty of good Linux backup software packages - one of them is "Lucky Backup"- already mentioned several times in this thread. However, before doing anything else, take care of reformatting the whole external HD into EXT4 - to make sure backing up from a contemporary Linux machine will work properly. In general, a newly bought external HD comes with NFTS. Such a format is only useful to copy bigger files directly from a MAC or WIN machine. I for example use 2 external HD's for routine backup purposes - 1 of 2 TB which stays at home, another portable one of 750 GB - both of them, I have formatted with EXT4. I know it is possible to partition an external HD into eg. a EXT4 and NTFS part. But personally,, I prefer to have one file system at one HD. A smaller, old portable 300 GB external HD, I have formatted as NTFS - with a view to exchanging files with Windows and Mac computers. If you use Kubuntu, use "KDE Partition manager" to reformat your external HD - and to partition it, in case you choose to do so. Test now if you can copy files to and from the external HD after reformatting it - simply via Dolphin. If yes, you are ready. If not, no problem - you need to do just a few more steps. Open a terminal and carry out the command "kdesudo dolphin". You will come in Dolphin filemanager as root. Click at the external HD. Then, rightclick at the file list without clicking at a specific file. Next step: click at properties. Next step: click at the tab "permissions". Via that tab, you have to change the "ownership": from "root" to you. Also make sure via the same tab that you as owner, are able to read, view and modify the content of the disk. After doing all this, you will be fine. > > My question is : > > 1. the auto backup software may not work under Linux. In that event would > manual backup be possible? See above and below. > > 2. Kubuntu has "Lucky Backup" software. Would that work on these Seagate > Drives. (I personally see no reason not to..) Yes, absolutely. As Sinclair said already: it does not really matter which drive you are using. What useful to know is the storage capacity and the number of rotations per minute (rpm). The storage capacity is in your case 2 TB - so more then enough :-). The number of rpm you can find in the documentation about your drive. Finally, one point of attention with respect to Lucky Backup. A few times, I got back "old" files and folders from the external HD back to the laptop. Later, I found out how to prevent this. I use the option "synchronise source and destination.". The laptop, /home/username, is the "source" in this case. The external HD is the destination: /media/name-of-external-HD/username. One of the "advanced" options I use, is this one: "delete files on the destination". By doing so, I make sure I get the most recent files and folders configuration on BOTH source AND destination. In case you have to put back your files and folders to your laptop, after a fresh install, simply use one time an option like "clone source to destination". In that case, do NOT use the advanced option "delete files on the destination". I hope, this explanation is useful for you. Respectfully yours, Bas G. Roufs. */Bas G. Roufs MA/* Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com[1]; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 13.04, see kubuntu.org[2] .Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu -------- [1] mailto:BasRoufs at gmail.com [2] http://kubuntu.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Sat Jun 22 17:55:39 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 17:55:39 +0000 Subject: FW: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , <3027166.hX94Jh7hmW@viaconsensus-home>, , Message-ID: I am unable to send the email with the attachments because of size limitations. Sending it anyway without the attachments. Thanks, Ramesh From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com To: basroufs at gmail.com; kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: RE: External Backup Disk Drive Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 17:40:52 +0000 Thanks a lot to all who have joined the discussion and provided tips/suggestions. I will try to answer some of your questions. 1. It is a usb connection. 2. But on connecting, I don't see the device under "Dolphin". I am attaching a screen-snapshot. 3. The Partition Editor also does not show the external drive. Snapshot attached. It shows only the internal two drives. 4. BUT lsusb command lists following. The last line one refers to Seagate Backup Drive. 5. Without the device being "detected" I cannot do the formatting etc.. ================================================== ramesh at mozart:~$ lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04e8:3272 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0430:100e Sun Microsystems, Inc. 24.1" LCD Monitor v4 / FID-638 Mouse Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1267:0213 Logic3 / SpectraVideo plc Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0430:00a2 Sun Microsystems, Inc. Type 7 Keyboard Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0bc2:a0a4 Seagate RSS LLC ramesh at mozart:~$ ================================================== I am particularly thankful to Bas for his very detailed instructions. Right now I would appreciate if someone leads me to the next step.. Thanks all, Ramesh Rao 937-434-6625 Dayton, OH 45458 USA From: basroufs at gmail.com To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 14:15:25 +0200 Hello Ramesh, > I just today bought Seagate Backup Plus (2TB) external drive. It seems to > come with Windows/Mac2 compatible auto-backup software. simply forget about this windows/ mac software. Whipe them away or copy it temporarily to somewhere else - anyway, you do not need it. There are plenty of good Linux backup software packages - one of them is "Lucky Backup"- already mentioned several times in this thread. However, before doing anything else, take care of reformatting the whole external HD into EXT4 - to make sure backing up from a contemporary Linux machine will work properly. In general, a newly bought external HD comes with NFTS. Such a format is only useful to copy bigger files directly from a MAC or WIN machine. I for example use 2 external HD's for routine backup purposes - 1 of 2 TB which stays at home, another portable one of 750 GB - both of them, I have formatted with EXT4. I know it is possible to partition an external HD into eg. a EXT4 and NTFS part. But personally,, I prefer to have one file system at one HD. A smaller, old portable 300 GB external HD, I have formatted as NTFS - with a view to exchanging files with Windows and Mac computers. If you use Kubuntu, use "KDE Partition manager" to reformat your external HD - and to partition it, in case you choose to do so. Test now if you can copy files to and from the external HD after reformatting it - simply via Dolphin. If yes, you are ready. If not, no problem - you need to do just a few more steps. Open a terminal and carry out the command "kdesudo dolphin". You will come in Dolphin filemanager as root. Click at the external HD. Then, rightclick at the file list without clicking at a specific file. Next step: click at properties. Next step: click at the tab "permissions". Via that tab, you have to change the "ownership": from "root" to you. Also make sure via the same tab that you as owner, are able to read, view and modify the content of the disk. After doing all this, you will be fine. > > My question is : > > 1. the auto backup software may not work under Linux. In that event would > manual backup be possible? See above and below. > > 2. Kubuntu has "Lucky Backup" software. Would that work on these Seagate > Drives. (I personally see no reason not to..) Yes, absolutely. As Sinclair said already: it does not really matter which drive you are using. What useful to know is the storage capacity and the number of rotations per minute (rpm). The storage capacity is in your case 2 TB - so more then enough :-). The number of rpm you can find in the documentation about your drive. Finally, one point of attention with respect to Lucky Backup. A few times, I got back "old" files and folders from the external HD back to the laptop. Later, I found out how to prevent this. I use the option "synchronise source and destination.". The laptop, /home/username, is the "source" in this case. The external HD is the destination: /media/name-of-external-HD/username. One of the "advanced" options I use, is this one: "delete files on the destination". By doing so, I make sure I get the most recent files and folders configuration on BOTH source AND destination. In case you have to put back your files and folders to your laptop, after a fresh install, simply use one time an option like "clone source to destination". In that case, do NOT use the advanced option "delete files on the destination". I hope, this explanation is useful for you. Respectfully yours, Bas G. Roufs. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 13.04, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clay at claydoh.com Sat Jun 22 19:22:43 2013 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 15:22:43 -0400 Subject: FW: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2677079.0zvuyjPseq@lark-latitude-d630> On Saturday, June 22, 2013 05:55:39 PM Ramesh Rao wrote: > I am unable to send the email with the attachments because of size > limitations. Sending it anyway without the attachments. > You can use a photo hosting site, such as imageshack, photobucket or similar sites and link to them in your email to the list. Clay Weber (claydoh) http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com From basroufs at gmail.com Sun Jun 23 14:16:19 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas G. Roufs - En.) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 16:16:19 +0200 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: <3027166.hX94Jh7hmW@viaconsensus-home> References: <3027166.hX94Jh7hmW@viaconsensus-home> Message-ID: <2505214.y8XFRGVTbD@viaconsensus-home> Hello again, Ramesh, First of all, I DID receive the screen shots you have sent the reply to my previous mail. >From your reply, I get that your system does not yet recognise your external HD as an external HD. Now, I remember, I had a similar problem when I was trying to get on the way with my own 2 TB external HD. On the other hand, you manage to find it via "lsusb".This is a good starting point. Stay in the command line and follow the instructions of this page: http://superuser.com/questions/467170/how-do-i-mount-internal-hdds-in-ubuntu-via-the-command-line See also amongst others this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB If you need more info, go to Google and give in this search string: mount external hdd Ubuntu command line !! Take care of consulting pages not older than about one year!! Secondly, I need to slightly amend my own explanation on "Lucky Backup". > Finally, one point of attention with respect to Lucky Backup. A few times, I > got back "old" files and folders from the external HD back to the laptop. > Later, I found out how to prevent this. I use the option "synchronise source > and destination.". The laptop, /home/user name, is the "source" in this case. > The external HD is the destination: /media/name-of-external-HD/user name. > One > of the "advanced" options I use, is this one: "delete files on the > destination". By doing so, I make sure I get the most recent files and > folders configuration on BOTH source AND destination. > In case you have to put back your files and folders to your laptop, after a > fresh install, simply use one time an option like "clone source to > destination". In that case, do NOT use the advanced option "delete files on > the destination". If you want to avoid getting back old files and old folder structures, it is better to act as follows: * start Lucky Backup in root mode and choose for the main option "backup source inside destination"; * than go to ADVANCED > tab "command options"; * inside the tab "command options", tick the first 4 boxes from the left, "Preserve .... special files"; * stay in the same tab and tick the first 3 boxes from the right: "Delete ..... from the right"; * still stay in the same tab and tick the box "Do NOT create extra directory"; * now go to the tab "exclude", and tick ALL the boxes there; * stay in the same tab and check via the button "validate; * when everything seems to be OK, press at the button "run" and give Lucky Backup the time to carry out it's job; * after the process, check the result via the command line file manager "Midnight Commander" via the command "sudo mc"; * check both the computer and your external HD and remove the files/ folders you do not need any more on both sides; * you can find your external disk via /media; * if you do not have Midnight Commander, install it via' sudo apt-get install mc'; * repeat the backup process explained above as often as you want - at least once or twice a week, or even daily in case of very intense working days behind the PC. Good luck. My next possibility to get back to you at this forum is probably tomorrow. Respectfully yours, Bas Roufs. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Sun Jun 23 19:22:56 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:22:56 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: <2505214.y8XFRGVTbD@viaconsensus-home> References: , <3027166.hX94Jh7hmW@viaconsensus-home>, <2505214.y8XFRGVTbD@viaconsensus-home> Message-ID: Thanks a lot Bas. I need to digest and try doing what is suggested in these Forums. Will get back to you ASAP. Ramesh From: basroufs at gmail.com To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 16:16:19 +0200 Hello again, Ramesh, First of all, I DID receive the screen shots you have sent the reply to my previous mail. >From your reply, I get that your system does not yet recognise your external HD as an external HD. Now, I remember, I had a similar problem when I was trying to get on the way with my own 2 TB external HD. On the other hand, you manage to find it via "lsusb".This is a good starting point. Stay in the command line and follow the instructions of this page: http://superuser.com/questions/467170/how-do-i-mount-internal-hdds-in-ubuntu-via-the-command-line See also amongst others this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB If you need more info, go to Google and give in this search string: mount external hdd Ubuntu command line !! Take care of consulting pages not older than about one year!! Secondly, I need to slightly amend my own explanation on "Lucky Backup". > Finally, one point of attention with respect to Lucky Backup. A few times, I > got back "old" files and folders from the external HD back to the laptop. > Later, I found out how to prevent this. I use the option "synchronise source > and destination.". The laptop, /home/user name, is the "source" in this case. > The external HD is the destination: /media/name-of-external-HD/user name. > One > of the "advanced" options I use, is this one: "delete files on the > destination". By doing so, I make sure I get the most recent files and > folders configuration on BOTH source AND destination. > In case you have to put back your files and folders to your laptop, after a > fresh install, simply use one time an option like "clone source to > destination". In that case, do NOT use the advanced option "delete files on > the destination". If you want to avoid getting back old files and old folder structures, it is better to act as follows: start Lucky Backup in root mode and choose for the main option "backup source inside destination"; than go to ADVANCED > tab "command options"; inside the tab "command options", tick the first 4 boxes from the left, "Preserve .... special files"; stay in the same tab and tick the first 3 boxes from the right: "Delete ..... from the right"; still stay in the same tab and tick the box "Do NOT create extra directory"; now go to the tab "exclude", and tick ALL the boxes there; stay in the same tab and check via the button "validate; when everything seems to be OK, press at the button "run" and give Lucky Backup the time to carry out it's job; after the process, check the result via the command line file manager "Midnight Commander" via the command "sudo mc"; check both the computer and your external HD and remove the files/ folders you do not need any more on both sides; you can find your external disk via /media; if you do not have Midnight Commander, install it via' sudo apt-get install mc'; repeat the backup process explained above as often as you want - at least once or twice a week, or even daily in case of very intense working days behind the PC. Good luck. My next possibility to get back to you at this forum is probably tomorrow. Respectfully yours, Bas Roufs. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Mon Jun 24 04:17:20 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 04:17:20 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , , <3027166.hX94Jh7hmW@viaconsensus-home>, , <2505214.y8XFRGVTbD@viaconsensus-home>, Message-ID: Bas, After some research/digging I have this information: - "sudo fdisk -l" and "lsblk" commands do not show Seagate Backup Drive. Details at: http://www.kiduvinhouse.net/share/ExtSeagateDr.doc - only lsusb lists Seagate Device - tried using "palimpsest" (gnome-disk-utility). Seems to be a powerful utility. This one DOES SHOW the external Hard Drive. Plz visit the links for screenshots. www.kiduvinhouse.net/share/scrCapDisk1.jpeg and www.kiduvinhouse.net/share/scrCapDisk2.jpeg - knowing the device names from palimpsest I tried to mount device /dev/sdc on /media/mnt. Received error message as follows: ramesh at mozart:/media$ sudo mount /dev/sdc /media/mnt mount: /dev/sdc is not a valid block device - while "sudo fdisk " lists details for /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, it returns nothing for /dev/sdc, /dev/sdd etc. Conslusion: - is it possible that the drives need to be reformatted? Right now the devices /dev/sdc, /dev/sdd, etc through /dev/sdj each show "0 bytes Capacity", may be because it is not formatted. Although I thought the drives come formatted mostly in NFTS format (as already mentioned by you in an earlier email). - I am little skeptical about reformatting, reason - I may have to ultimately return the drive Thanks for your time and assistance.. 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Sinclair) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 09:47:50 +0200 Subject: KDEPIM2 (kontact/Kmail) without akonadi/nepomuk Message-ID: <51C7F9A6.2090005@gmail.com> Stumbled across this ppa for Kubuntu https://launchpad.net/~pali/+archive/kdepim-noakonadi Have not tried myself as I have few problems with nepomuk/akonadi - but judging from comments others might be interested. From basroufs at gmail.com Mon Jun 24 08:55:21 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:55:21 +0200 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: <3027166.hX94Jh7hmW@viaconsensus-home> <2505214.y8XFRGVTbD@viaconsensus-home> Message-ID: Hello Ramesh, really the best thing to do is reformatting the drive into EXT4, not NTFS! Use either Palimpsest or KDE Partition Manager. May be you can also check KDE Partition Manager. The screenshots you show, remind me of the situation I had before reformatting my 2 TB drive, a 'Western Digital'. I had exactly the same problem '. Ever since I have reformatted it, it works flawlessly. > is it possible that the drives need to be reformatted? Right now the devices ... show "0 bytes Capacity", Something like this I remember also from my Western Digital HD before reformatting it. ! You need only to reformat your external HD, not anything else! Check also your drives with KDE Partition Manager - probably better to reformat your external drive via that package. > Although I thought the drives come formatted mostly in NFTS format (as already mentioned by you in an earlier email). - I am little skeptical about reformatting, reason - I may have to ultimately return the drive This is not an issue in my opinion. NTFS is just a file system. When using Linux, you can better work with EXT4 - another file system. Have a good day. Bas. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Mon Jun 24 19:28:34 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:28:34 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , <3027166.hX94Jh7hmW@viaconsensus-home>, <2505214.y8XFRGVTbD@viaconsensus-home>, , , Message-ID: Hi Bas, I started well today - very promising. I can't say the same at the end. Summary: - KDE Partition Manager does not recognize the external drive. - tried Gparted Live. Pleasantly surprised to find this device /dev/sdc1 displayed (NTFS format). - reformatted as ext4 - during the whole process the Seagate Drive Power-on indicator was steady-green. - brought up kubuntu (v11.10) - once again, ext drive NOT detected by File Manager, KDE Partition Manager, fdisk, lsblk. palimpsest recognizes but wrongly - it displays the drive as having eight partitions!! Only lsusb seem to detect the device. - Seagate Drive Power-on indicator does not light up at all. I wanted the backup mechanism working so that I could upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04. Now it seems I may have to upgrade just to get the ext drive functioning. Chicken and egg scenario. Have I exhausted all my options? Once again thanks for your time. I appreciate. Ramesh Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:55:21 +0200 Subject: RE: External Backup Disk Drive From: basroufs at gmail.com To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Hello Ramesh, really the best thing to do is reformatting the drive into EXT4, not NTFS! Use either Palimpsest or KDE Partition Manager. May be you can also check KDE Partition Manager. The screenshots you show, remind me of the situation I had before reformatting my 2 TB drive, a 'Western Digital'. I had exactly the same problem '. Ever since I have reformatted it, it works flawlessly. > is it possible that the drives need to be reformatted? Right now the devices ... show "0 bytes Capacity", Something like this I remember also from my Western Digital HD before reformatting it. ! You need only to reformat your external HD, not anything else! Check also your drives with KDE Partition Manager - probably better to reformat your external drive via that package. > Although I thought the drives come formatted mostly in NFTS format (as already mentioned by you in an earlier email). - I am little skeptical about reformatting, reason - I may have to ultimately return the drive This is not an issue in my opinion. NTFS is just a file system. When using Linux, you can better work with EXT4 - another file system. Have a good day. Bas. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Mon Jun 24 20:33:08 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:33:08 +0200 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: <3027166.hX94Jh7hmW@viaconsensus-home> <2505214.y8XFRGVTbD@viaconsensus-home> Message-ID: Hello Ramesh, what exactly do you mean with this? > - brought up kubuntu (v11.10) An external HD is just for backup storage, not for operating an OS! I am wondering whether this is a reason that your drive still is not recognisable as a simple EXT4 storage device. On the other hand, I am happy with this: > - tried Gparted Live .... Gparted is an excellent package to (re)format, partition, etc. My advise for now: use GParted to again reformat your drive; if, after this, you still have problems, change the ownership and permissions of your drive via kdesudo or sudo mc - see first mail for the details. I hope, also others have useful ideas for your problem. Have a good evening! Respectfully yours, Bas. 2013/6/24 Ramesh Rao : > Hi Bas, > > I started well today - very promising. I can't say the same at the end. > > Summary: > > - KDE Partition Manager does not recognize the external drive. > - tried Gparted Live. Pleasantly surprised to find this device /dev/sdc1 > displayed (NTFS format). > - reformatted as ext4 > - during the whole process the Seagate Drive Power-on indicator was > steady-green. > - brought up kubuntu (v11.10) > - once again, ext drive NOT detected by File Manager, KDE Partition Manager, > fdisk, lsblk. palimpsest recognizes but wrongly - it displays the drive as > having eight partitions!! Only lsusb seem to detect the device. > - Seagate Drive Power-on indicator does not light up at all. > > I wanted the backup mechanism working so that I could upgrade from 11.10 to > 12.04. Now it seems I may have to upgrade just to get the ext drive > functioning. Chicken and egg scenario. > > Have I exhausted all my options? > > Once again thanks for your time. I appreciate. > > Ramesh > > ________________________________ > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:55:21 +0200 > > Subject: RE: External Backup Disk Drive > From: basroufs at gmail.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Hello Ramesh, > really the best thing to do is reformatting the drive into EXT4, not NTFS! > Use either Palimpsest or KDE Partition Manager. > May be you can also check KDE Partition Manager. > The screenshots you show, remind me of the situation I had before > reformatting my 2 TB drive, a 'Western Digital'. > I had exactly the same problem '. Ever since I have reformatted it, it works > flawlessly. >> is it possible that the drives need to be reformatted? Right now the >> devices ... show "0 bytes Capacity", > Something like this I remember also from my Western Digital HD before > reformatting it. > > ! You need only to reformat your external HD, not anything else! > Check also your drives with KDE Partition Manager - probably better to > reformat your external drive via that package. > > > >> Although I thought the drives come formatted mostly in NFTS format (as >> already mentioned by you in an earlier email). > - I am little skeptical about reformatting, reason - I may have to > ultimately return the drive > This is not an issue in my opinion. NTFS is just a file system. When using > Linux, you can better work with EXT4 - another file system. > > > Have a good day. > Bas. > > -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings > or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- drs. Bas G. Roufs Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Mon Jun 24 21:49:18 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:49:18 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , <3027166.hX94Jh7hmW@viaconsensus-home>, <2505214.y8XFRGVTbD@viaconsensus-home>, , , , , Message-ID: Hi Bas, Well all I meant was that after reformatting the external drive (from NTFS to ext4) using Gparted, I rebooted the workstation using the current OS (i.e. kubuntu v 11.10) as normal (not from external drive). The external drive was not detected even after reformatting. I don't think you are suggesting that I reformat once again. Thanks a lot.. Ramesh > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:33:08 +0200 > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > From: basroufs at gmail.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Hello Ramesh, > > what exactly do you mean with this? > > - brought up kubuntu (v11.10) > An external HD is just for backup storage, not for operating an OS! I > am wondering whether this is a reason that your drive still is not > recognisable as a simple EXT4 storage device. > > On the other hand, I am happy with this: > > - tried Gparted Live .... > > Gparted is an excellent package to (re)format, partition, etc. > My advise for now: > use GParted to again reformat your drive; > if, after this, you still have problems, change the ownership and > permissions of your drive via kdesudo or sudo mc - see first mail for > the details. > I hope, also others have useful ideas for your problem. > > Have a good evening! > Respectfully yours, > Bas. > > > > 2013/6/24 Ramesh Rao : > > Hi Bas, > > > > I started well today - very promising. I can't say the same at the end. > > > > Summary: > > > > - KDE Partition Manager does not recognize the external drive. > > - tried Gparted Live. Pleasantly surprised to find this device /dev/sdc1 > > displayed (NTFS format). > > - reformatted as ext4 > > - during the whole process the Seagate Drive Power-on indicator was > > steady-green. > > - brought up kubuntu (v11.10) > > - once again, ext drive NOT detected by File Manager, KDE Partition Manager, > > fdisk, lsblk. palimpsest recognizes but wrongly - it displays the drive as > > having eight partitions!! Only lsusb seem to detect the device. > > - Seagate Drive Power-on indicator does not light up at all. > > > > I wanted the backup mechanism working so that I could upgrade from 11.10 to > > 12.04. Now it seems I may have to upgrade just to get the ext drive > > functioning. Chicken and egg scenario. > > > > Have I exhausted all my options? > > > > Once again thanks for your time. I appreciate. > > > > Ramesh > > > > ________________________________ > > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:55:21 +0200 > > > > Subject: RE: External Backup Disk Drive > > From: basroufs at gmail.com > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > > Hello Ramesh, > > really the best thing to do is reformatting the drive into EXT4, not NTFS! > > Use either Palimpsest or KDE Partition Manager. > > May be you can also check KDE Partition Manager. > > The screenshots you show, remind me of the situation I had before > > reformatting my 2 TB drive, a 'Western Digital'. > > I had exactly the same problem '. Ever since I have reformatted it, it works > > flawlessly. > >> is it possible that the drives need to be reformatted? Right now the > >> devices ... show "0 bytes Capacity", > > Something like this I remember also from my Western Digital HD before > > reformatting it. > > > > ! You need only to reformat your external HD, not anything else! > > Check also your drives with KDE Partition Manager - probably better to > > reformat your external drive via that package. > > > > > > > >> Although I thought the drives come formatted mostly in NFTS format (as > >> already mentioned by you in an earlier email). > > - I am little skeptical about reformatting, reason - I may have to > > ultimately return the drive > > This is not an issue in my opinion. NTFS is just a file system. When using > > Linux, you can better work with EXT4 - another file system. > > > > > > Have a good day. > > Bas. > > > > -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings > > or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > drs. Bas G. Roufs > > Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht > > E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. > > Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . > Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Mon Jun 24 21:59:37 2013 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 23:59:37 +0200 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: <3027166.hX94Jh7hmW@viaconsensus-home> <2505214.y8XFRGVTbD@viaconsensus-home> Message-ID: OK, Ramesh, my last phrase, before I go to bed .... here is already nearly midnight. Now. I advise you to check the permissions of your disk, in one of the ways I explained to you in my previous mails. You, not root, need to be the "owner". As owner, you need to be able to read, write and modify contents on the disk. Check this via kdesudo dolphin or sudo mc. Respectfully yours. Bas. 2013/6/24 Ramesh Rao : > Hi Bas, > > Well all I meant was that after reformatting the external drive (from NTFS > to ext4) using Gparted, I rebooted the workstation using the current OS > (i.e. kubuntu v 11.10) as normal (not from external drive). The external > drive was not detected even after reformatting. > > I don't think you are suggesting that I reformat once again. > > Thanks a lot.. > > Ramesh > > > >> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:33:08 +0200 >> Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > >> From: basroufs at gmail.com >> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> Hello Ramesh, >> >> what exactly do you mean with this? >> > - brought up kubuntu (v11.10) >> An external HD is just for backup storage, not for operating an OS! I >> am wondering whether this is a reason that your drive still is not >> recognisable as a simple EXT4 storage device. >> >> On the other hand, I am happy with this: >> > - tried Gparted Live .... >> >> Gparted is an excellent package to (re)format, partition, etc. >> My advise for now: >> use GParted to again reformat your drive; >> if, after this, you still have problems, change the ownership and >> permissions of your drive via kdesudo or sudo mc - see first mail for >> the details. >> I hope, also others have useful ideas for your problem. >> >> Have a good evening! >> Respectfully yours, >> Bas. >> >> >> >> 2013/6/24 Ramesh Rao : >> > Hi Bas, >> > >> > I started well today - very promising. I can't say the same at the end. >> > >> > Summary: >> > >> > - KDE Partition Manager does not recognize the external drive. >> > - tried Gparted Live. Pleasantly surprised to find this device /dev/sdc1 >> > displayed (NTFS format). >> > - reformatted as ext4 >> > - during the whole process the Seagate Drive Power-on indicator was >> > steady-green. >> > - brought up kubuntu (v11.10) >> > - once again, ext drive NOT detected by File Manager, KDE Partition >> > Manager, >> > fdisk, lsblk. palimpsest recognizes but wrongly - it displays the drive >> > as >> > having eight partitions!! Only lsusb seem to detect the device. >> > - Seagate Drive Power-on indicator does not light up at all. >> > >> > I wanted the backup mechanism working so that I could upgrade from 11.10 >> > to >> > 12.04. Now it seems I may have to upgrade just to get the ext drive >> > functioning. Chicken and egg scenario. >> > >> > Have I exhausted all my options? >> > >> > Once again thanks for your time. I appreciate. >> > >> > Ramesh >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:55:21 +0200 >> > >> > Subject: RE: External Backup Disk Drive >> > From: basroufs at gmail.com >> > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > >> > >> > Hello Ramesh, >> > really the best thing to do is reformatting the drive into EXT4, not >> > NTFS! >> > Use either Palimpsest or KDE Partition Manager. >> > May be you can also check KDE Partition Manager. >> > The screenshots you show, remind me of the situation I had before >> > reformatting my 2 TB drive, a 'Western Digital'. >> > I had exactly the same problem '. Ever since I have reformatted it, it >> > works >> > flawlessly. >> >> is it possible that the drives need to be reformatted? Right now the >> >> devices ... show "0 bytes Capacity", >> > Something like this I remember also from my Western Digital HD before >> > reformatting it. >> > >> > ! You need only to reformat your external HD, not anything else! >> > Check also your drives with KDE Partition Manager - probably better to >> > reformat your external drive via that package. >> > >> > >> > >> >> Although I thought the drives come formatted mostly in NFTS format (as >> >> already mentioned by you in an earlier email). >> > - I am little skeptical about reformatting, reason - I may have to >> > ultimately return the drive >> > This is not an issue in my opinion. NTFS is just a file system. When >> > using >> > Linux, you can better work with EXT4 - another file system. >> > >> > >> > Have a good day. >> > Bas. >> > >> > -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify >> > settings >> > or unsubscribe at: >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > >> > -- >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> drs. Bas G. Roufs >> >> Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht >> >> E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. >> >> Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . >> Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; >> RainbowGathering.eu . >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- drs. Bas G. Roufs Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . From steve at rileyz.net Mon Jun 24 22:00:45 2013 From: steve at rileyz.net (Steve Riley) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:00:45 -0700 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520> With the drive unplugged, please open a console window and run: udevadm monitor The command will print three lines about what will happen, and then the cursor will wait on the next line. Now plug in the drive. Do additional lines appear in the console window? If so, please copy-paste those into a reply message here. Thanks. ...Steve On 2013-06-24 21:49:18 Ramesh Rao wrote: > > Hi Bas, > > Well all I meant was that after reformatting the external drive (from NTFS to ext4) using Gparted, I rebooted the workstation using the current OS (i.e. kubuntu v 11.10) as normal (not from external drive). The external drive was not detected even after reformatting. > > I don't think you are suggesting that I reformat once again. > > Thanks a lot.. > > Ramesh > > > > > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:33:08 +0200 > > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > > From: basroufs at gmail.com > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Hello Ramesh, > > > > what exactly do you mean with this? > > > - brought up kubuntu (v11.10) > > An external HD is just for backup storage, not for operating an OS! I > > am wondering whether this is a reason that your drive still is not > > recognisable as a simple EXT4 storage device. > > > > On the other hand, I am happy with this: > > > - tried Gparted Live .... > > > > Gparted is an excellent package to (re)format, partition, etc. > > My advise for now: > > use GParted to again reformat your drive; > > if, after this, you still have problems, change the ownership and > > permissions of your drive via kdesudo or sudo mc - see first mail for > > the details. > > I hope, also others have useful ideas for your problem. > > > > Have a good evening! > > Respectfully yours, > > Bas. > > > > > > > > 2013/6/24 Ramesh Rao : > > > Hi Bas, > > > > > > I started well today - very promising. I can't say the same at the end. > > > > > > Summary: > > > > > > - KDE Partition Manager does not recognize the external drive. > > > - tried Gparted Live. Pleasantly surprised to find this device /dev/sdc1 > > > displayed (NTFS format). > > > - reformatted as ext4 > > > - during the whole process the Seagate Drive Power-on indicator was > > > steady-green. > > > - brought up kubuntu (v11.10) > > > - once again, ext drive NOT detected by File Manager, KDE Partition Manager, > > > fdisk, lsblk. palimpsest recognizes but wrongly - it displays the drive as > > > having eight partitions!! Only lsusb seem to detect the device. > > > - Seagate Drive Power-on indicator does not light up at all. > > > > > > I wanted the backup mechanism working so that I could upgrade from 11.10 to > > > 12.04. Now it seems I may have to upgrade just to get the ext drive > > > functioning. Chicken and egg scenario. > > > > > > Have I exhausted all my options? > > > > > > Once again thanks for your time. I appreciate. > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:55:21 +0200 > > > > > > Subject: RE: External Backup Disk Drive > > > From: basroufs at gmail.com > > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > > > > > Hello Ramesh, > > > really the best thing to do is reformatting the drive into EXT4, not NTFS! > > > Use either Palimpsest or KDE Partition Manager. > > > May be you can also check KDE Partition Manager. > > > The screenshots you show, remind me of the situation I had before > > > reformatting my 2 TB drive, a 'Western Digital'. > > > I had exactly the same problem '. Ever since I have reformatted it, it works > > > flawlessly. > > >> is it possible that the drives need to be reformatted? Right now the > > >> devices ... show "0 bytes Capacity", > > > Something like this I remember also from my Western Digital HD before > > > reformatting it. > > > > > > ! You need only to reformat your external HD, not anything else! > > > Check also your drives with KDE Partition Manager - probably better to > > > reformat your external drive via that package. > > > > > > > > > > > >> Although I thought the drives come formatted mostly in NFTS format (as > > >> already mentioned by you in an earlier email). > > > - I am little skeptical about reformatting, reason - I may have to > > > ultimately return the drive > > > This is not an issue in my opinion. NTFS is just a file system. When using > > > Linux, you can better work with EXT4 - another file system. > > > > > > > > > Have a good day. > > > Bas. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Jun 24 22:06:45 2013 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 00:06:45 +0200 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520> References: <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520> Message-ID: My drive acted like that because I used a USB extension cable from my computer to the USB cable of the HD. After I took that out, it worked fine but for the cord being WAY to short. -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Mon Jun 24 22:44:05 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:44:05 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, Message-ID: Hi Steve, Bas, Douglas, I have created a text file containing first few hundred lines displayed on the console. It is at: http://kiduvinhouse.net/share/udevadm_monitor.doc The first few lines are: ================================================ ramesh at mozart:~$ udevadm monitor monitor will print the received events for: UDEV - the event which udev sends out after rule processing KERNEL - the kernel uevent KERNEL[6718.694327] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10 (usb) KERNEL[6718.694685] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0 (usb) UDEV [6718.745152] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10 (usb) KERNEL[6718.871857] add /module/uas (module) UDEV [6718.872398] add /module/uas (module) KERNEL[6718.873515] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host6 (scsi) KERNEL[6718.873663] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host6/scsi_host/host6 (scsi_host) KERNEL[6718.874800] add /bus/usb/drivers/uas (drivers) UDEV [6718.874849] add /bus/usb/drivers/uas (drivers) KERNEL[6718.877857] add /module/usb_storage (module) UDEV [6718.878588] add /module/usb_storage (module) KERNEL[6718.879622] add /bus/usb/drivers/usb-storage (drivers) UDEV [6718.879672] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0 (usb) UDEV [6718.882548] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host6 (scsi) UDEV [6718.882599] add /bus/usb/drivers/usb-storage (drivers) ================================================= Plz let me know if you need anything else. Incidentally, as suggested by Bas, I did kdesudo into dolphin.. A screen shot of the Dolphin GUI is at http://www.kiduvinhouse.net/share/scrCapDisk4.jpeg What is displayed are the two internal HDs. The external drive is not listed. Douglas, I am not using any extension chord. Using the one that came with the unit. Thanks again, Ramesh > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 00:06:45 +0200 > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > From: magick.crow at gmail.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > My drive acted like that because I used a USB extension cable from my > computer to the USB cable of the HD. After I took that out, it worked > fine but for the cord being WAY to short. > > > > -- > Douglas E Knapp > > Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies > with open source software! > http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php > > Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: > http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm > Please link to me and trade links with me! > > Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. > http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page > http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Mon Jun 24 23:52:55 2013 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Charles Bell) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:52:55 -0400 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, Message-ID: <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com> On 06/24/2013 06:44 PM, Ramesh Rao wrote: > Hi Steve, Bas, Douglas, > > I have created a text file containing first few hundred lines > displayed on the console. It is at: > http://kiduvinhouse.net/share/udevadm_monitor.doc The first few lines are: > > ================================================ > ramesh at mozart:~$ udevadm monitor > monitor will print the received events for: > UDEV - the event which udev sends out after rule processing > KERNEL - the kernel uevent > > KERNEL[6718.694327] add > /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10 (usb) > KERNEL[6718.694685] add > /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0 (usb) > UDEV [6718.745152] add > /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10 (usb) > KERNEL[6718.871857] add /module/uas (module) > UDEV [6718.872398] add /module/uas (module) > KERNEL[6718.873515] add > /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host6 (scsi) > KERNEL[6718.873663] add > /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host6/scsi_host/host6 > (scsi_host) > KERNEL[6718.874800] add /bus/usb/drivers/uas (drivers) > UDEV [6718.874849] add /bus/usb/drivers/uas (drivers) > KERNEL[6718.877857] add /module/usb_storage (module) > UDEV [6718.878588] add /module/usb_storage (module) > KERNEL[6718.879622] add /bus/usb/drivers/usb-storage (drivers) > UDEV [6718.879672] add > /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0 (usb) > UDEV [6718.882548] add > /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host6 (scsi) > UDEV [6718.882599] add /bus/usb/drivers/usb-storage (drivers) > ================================================= > > Plz let me know if you need anything else. > > Incidentally, as suggested by Bas, I did kdesudo into dolphin.. A > screen shot of the Dolphin GUI is at > > http://www.kiduvinhouse.net/share/scrCapDisk4.jpeg > > > What is displayed are the two internal HDs. The external drive is not > listed. > > Douglas, I am not using any extension chord. Using the one that came > with the unit. > > Thanks again, > Ramesh > > > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 00:06:45 +0200 > > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > > From: magick.crow at gmail.com > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > My drive acted like that because I used a USB extension cable from my > > computer to the USB cable of the HD. After I took that out, it worked > > fine but for the cord being WAY to short. > > > > > > > > -- > > Douglas E Knapp > > > > Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies > > with open source software! > > http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php > > > > Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: > > http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm > > Please link to me and trade links with me! > > > > Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. > > http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page > > http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Ramash, I have been glancing at this without much attention, therefore, I wondering if you tried: sudo lshw | egrep -nA 23 disk >> disk.txt Which will give a list of all disks the OS sees. A second question, did you format the USB disk as primary? If you did then no OS booting off another primary disk will ever "see" that disk. GPartEd will see it but it will never register with the OS that is NOT booting from it. Charles Bell -- "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 25 00:33:26 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 00:33:26 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com> References: , , , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , , , <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: Hi Charles, I have posted the text file at http://www.kiduvinhouse.net/share/disk.txt Plz take a look. I would think USB disk is partioned as "primary". Gparted had designated the logical device name as /dev/sdc1. This is what "lsblk" prints out. /dev/sdb1 in the output is one large file system and I think this too is "primary". /dev/sdc1 is not sensed/detected by the OS. ============================================== ramesh at mozart:~$ lsblk NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO MOUNTPOINT sda 8:0 0 232.9G 0 ├─sda1 8:1 0 54.9M 0 ├─sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 ├─sda5 8:5 0 2G 0 [SWAP] ├─sda6 8:6 0 20G 0 / └─sda7 8:7 0 210.8G 0 /home sdb 8:16 0 232.9G 0 └─sdb1 8:17 0 232.9G 0 /data sr0 11:0 1 1024M 0 ramesh at mozart:~$ ============================================= Pl let me know if I have to partition/format USB external drive (Seagate Backup) differently. Thanks a lot.. Ramesh Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:52:55 -0400 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive On 06/24/2013 06:44 PM, Ramesh Rao wrote: Hi Steve, Bas, Douglas, I have created a text file containing first few hundred lines displayed on the console. It is at: http://kiduvinhouse.net/share/udevadm_monitor.doc The first few lines are: ================================================ ramesh at mozart:~$ udevadm monitor monitor will print the received events for: UDEV - the event which udev sends out after rule processing KERNEL - the kernel uevent KERNEL[6718.694327] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10 (usb) KERNEL[6718.694685] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0 (usb) UDEV [6718.745152] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10 (usb) KERNEL[6718.871857] add /module/uas (module) UDEV [6718.872398] add /module/uas (module) KERNEL[6718.873515] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host6 (scsi) KERNEL[6718.873663] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host6/scsi_host/host6 (scsi_host) KERNEL[6718.874800] add /bus/usb/drivers/uas (drivers) UDEV [6718.874849] add /bus/usb/drivers/uas (drivers) KERNEL[6718.877857] add /module/usb_storage (module) UDEV [6718.878588] add /module/usb_storage (module) KERNEL[6718.879622] add /bus/usb/drivers/usb-storage (drivers) UDEV [6718.879672] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0 (usb) UDEV [6718.882548] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host6 (scsi) UDEV [6718.882599] add /bus/usb/drivers/usb-storage (drivers) ================================================= Plz let me know if you need anything else. Incidentally, as suggested by Bas, I did kdesudo into dolphin.. A screen shot of the Dolphin GUI is at http://www.kiduvinhouse.net/share/scrCapDisk4.jpeg What is displayed are the two internal HDs. The external drive is not listed. Douglas, I am not using any extension chord. Using the one that came with the unit. Thanks again, Ramesh > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 00:06:45 +0200 > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > From: magick.crow at gmail.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > My drive acted like that because I used a USB extension cable from my > computer to the USB cable of the HD. After I took that out, it worked > fine but for the cord being WAY to short. > > > > -- > Douglas E Knapp > > Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies > with open source software! > http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php > > Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: > http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm > Please link to me and trade links with me! > > Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. > http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page > http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Ramash, I have been glancing at this without much attention, therefore, I wondering if you tried: sudo lshw | egrep -nA 23 disk >> disk.txt Which will give a list of all disks the OS sees. A second question, did you format the USB disk as primary? If you did then no OS booting off another primary disk will ever "see" that disk. GPartEd will see it but it will never register with the OS that is NOT booting from it. Charles Bell -- "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Jun 25 06:10:22 2013 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:10:22 +0200 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com> References: <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520> <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com> <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Charles Bell wrote: > On 06/24/2013 08:33 PM, Ramesh Rao wrote: > > Hi Charles, > > I have posted the text file at http://www.kiduvinhouse.net/share/disk.txt > Plz take a look. > > * * * Lots of snipping * * * > > If you plug in the USB after booting into the OS, > does the device driver see the drive and give you > the choice to open it? If you plug in a thumbdrive > you should get the same action. > > > Charles Bell > Try burning and booting into this system and see if you have the same problem. http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=partedmagic Or is it this one. I can never remember which is great. I think it is the first but give this a try too because it is a great distro with a different way of doing things. Get the KDE version. http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=sabayon > -- > "The test of our progress is not whether we add > more to the abundance of those who have much; it > is whether we provide enough for those who have > too little." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 25 17:00:53 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:00:53 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , , <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, Message-ID: Charles, Plugging in the USB (ext drive) after booting the workstation made no difference. There is no indication that a device has been added. "Device Notifier" says "No devices available". On the contrary, if a flash drive is inserted in the same usb port, Device Notifier pops up, as it should. I am kind of lost.. Thanks, Ramesh > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:10:22 +0200 > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > From: magick.crow at gmail.com > To: charles.bell.us at member.mensa.org; kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Charles Bell wrote: > > On 06/24/2013 08:33 PM, Ramesh Rao wrote: > > > > Hi Charles, > > > > I have posted the text file at http://www.kiduvinhouse.net/share/disk.txt > > Plz take a look. > > > > * * * Lots of snipping * * * > > > > If you plug in the USB after booting into the OS, > > does the device driver see the drive and give you > > the choice to open it? If you plug in a thumbdrive > > you should get the same action. > > > > > > Charles Bell > > > > Try burning and booting into this system and see if you have the same problem. > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=partedmagic > > Or is it this one. I can never remember which is great. I think it is > the first but give this a try too because it is a great distro with a > different way of doing things. Get the KDE version. > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=sabayon > > > -- > > "The test of our progress is not whether we add > > more to the abundance of those who have much; it > > is whether we provide enough for those who have > > too little." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > Douglas E Knapp > > Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies > with open source software! > http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php > > Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: > http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm > Please link to me and trade links with me! > > Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. > http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page > http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Tue Jun 25 22:05:41 2013 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Charles Bell) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:05:41 -0400 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , , <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, Message-ID: <51CA1435.6090209@cfl.rr.com> On 06/25/2013 01:00 PM, Ramesh Rao wrote: > Charles, > > Plugging in the USB (ext drive) after booting the workstation made no > difference. There is no indication that a device has been added. > "Device Notifier" says "No devices available". On the contrary, if a > flash drive is inserted in the same usb port, Device Notifier pops up, > as it should. > > I am kind of lost.. > > Thanks, > Ramesh > > > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:10:22 +0200 > > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > > From: magick.crow at gmail.com > > To: charles.bell.us at member.mensa.org; kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Charles Bell > wrote: > > > On 06/24/2013 08:33 PM, Ramesh Rao wrote: > > > > > > Hi Charles, > > > > > > I have posted the text file at > http://www.kiduvinhouse.net/share/disk.txt > > > Plz take a look. > > > > > > * * * Lots of snipping * * * > > > > > > If you plug in the USB after booting into the OS, > > > does the device driver see the drive and give you > > > the choice to open it? If you plug in a thumbdrive > > > you should get the same action. > > > > > > > > > Charles Bell > > > > > > > Try burning and booting into this system and see if you have the > same problem. > > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=partedmagic > > > > Or is it this one. I can never remember which is great. I think it is > > the first but give this a try too because it is a great distro with a > > different way of doing things. Get the KDE version. > > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=sabayon > > > > > -- > > > "The test of our progress is not whether we add > > > more to the abundance of those who have much; it > > > is whether we provide enough for those who have > > > too little." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt > > > > > > > > > -- > > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Douglas E Knapp > > > > Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies > > with open source software! > > http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php > > > > Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: > > http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm > > Please link to me and trade links with me! > > > > Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. > > http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page > > http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > In that case, you have me flummoxed. You can format it, but it is not loaded as a drive by the system. It would seem to be some sort of device driver problem, except that you can format the drive with GPartEd. Sorry, I cannot help you further. This is one for a kernel expert or a USB expert. Good luck! Charles -- "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 25 22:43:05 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 22:43:05 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: <51CA1435.6090209@cfl.rr.com> References: , , , , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , , , , , <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , , , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, , , , <51CA1435.6090209@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: Charles, Steve Riley, Thanks Charles. You have tried your best. Let me wait to hear from Steve.. Steve, does the output from "udevadm monitor" command sent yesterday shed some light, any light? I take it you are a kubuntu kernel/OS person. Thanks in anticipation. Ramesh Rao 937-434-6625 Dayton, OH 45458, USA Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:05:41 -0400 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive On 06/25/2013 01:00 PM, Ramesh Rao wrote: Charles, Plugging in the USB (ext drive) after booting the workstation made no difference. There is no indication that a device has been added. "Device Notifier" says "No devices available". On the contrary, if a flash drive is inserted in the same usb port, Device Notifier pops up, as it should. I am kind of lost.. Thanks, Ramesh > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:10:22 +0200 > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > From: magick.crow at gmail.com > To: charles.bell.us at member.mensa.org; kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Charles Bell wrote: > > On 06/24/2013 08:33 PM, Ramesh Rao wrote: > > > > Hi Charles, > > > > I have posted the text file at http://www.kiduvinhouse.net/share/disk.txt > > Plz take a look. > > > > * * * Lots of snipping * * * > > > > If you plug in the USB after booting into the OS, > > does the device driver see the drive and give you > > the choice to open it? If you plug in a thumbdrive > > you should get the same action. > > > > > > Charles Bell > > > > Try burning and booting into this system and see if you have the same problem. > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=partedmagic > > Or is it this one. I can never remember which is great. I think it is > the first but give this a try too because it is a great distro with a > different way of doing things. Get the KDE version. > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=sabayon > > > -- > > "The test of our progress is not whether we add > > more to the abundance of those who have much; it > > is whether we provide enough for those who have > > too little." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > Douglas E Knapp > > Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies > with open source software! > http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php > > Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: > http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm > Please link to me and trade links with me! > > Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. > http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page > http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users In that case, you have me flummoxed. You can format it, but it is not loaded as a drive by the system. It would seem to be some sort of device driver problem, except that you can format the drive with GPartEd. Sorry, I cannot help you further. This is one for a kernel expert or a USB expert. Good luck! Charles -- "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed Jun 26 02:02:38 2013 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:02:38 +1000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , , <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, Message-ID: <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au> On 26/06/13 03:00, Ramesh Rao wrote: > Charles, > > Plugging in the USB (ext drive) after booting the workstation made no > difference. There is no indication that a device has been added. > "Device Notifier" says "No devices available". On the contrary, if a > flash drive is inserted in the same usb port, Device Notifier pops up, > as it should. > > I am kind of lost.. > > Thanks, > Ramesh [pruned] What have you set in System Settings>Removable Devices? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.4 & kernel 3.9.7-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Wed Jun 26 02:51:56 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 02:51:56 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au> References: , , , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , , , , <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, , , , <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Hi Basil, Well, none of the options are checked. That means: - Enable automatic mounting of removable media - not checked - Only automatically mount removable media that has been manually mounted before - not checked - Mount all removable media at login - not checked - Automatically mount removable media when attached - not checked After reading your email I checked "Enable automatic mounting of removable media" along with "Automatically mount removable media when attached". This made NO difference. The device remains undetected by the OS. Any more suggestions? Thanks, Ramesh > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:02:38 +1000 > From: blchupin at iinet.net.au > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > > On 26/06/13 03:00, Ramesh Rao wrote: > > Charles, > > > > Plugging in the USB (ext drive) after booting the workstation made no > > difference. There is no indication that a device has been added. > > "Device Notifier" says "No devices available". On the contrary, if a > > flash drive is inserted in the same usb port, Device Notifier pops up, > > as it should. > > > > I am kind of lost.. > > > > Thanks, > > Ramesh > [pruned] > > What have you set in System Settings>Removable Devices? > > BC > > -- > Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.4 & kernel 3.9.7-1 on a system with- > AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor > 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM > Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed Jun 26 04:07:18 2013 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 14:07:18 +1000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , , , , <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, , , , <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au> On 26/06/13 12:51, Ramesh Rao wrote: > Hi Basil, > > Well, none of the options are checked. That means: > - Enable automatic mounting of removable media - not checked > - Only automatically mount removable media that has been manually > mounted before - not checked > - Mount all removable media at login - not checked > - Automatically mount removable media when attached - not checked > > After reading your email I *checked* "*Enable automatic mounting of > removable media*" along with "*Automatically mount removable media > when attached".* > > > This made NO difference. The device remains undetected by the OS. Any > more suggestions? > > Thanks, > Ramesh > > > > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:02:38 +1000 > > From: blchupin at iinet.net.au > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > > > > On 26/06/13 03:00, Ramesh Rao wrote: > > > Charles, > > > > > > Plugging in the USB (ext drive) after booting the workstation made no > > > difference. There is no indication that a device has been added. > > > "Device Notifier" says "No devices available". On the contrary, if a > > > flash drive is inserted in the same usb port, Device Notifier pops > up, > > > as it should. > > > > > > I am kind of lost.. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Ramesh > > [pruned] > > > > What have you set in System Settings>Removable Devices? > > > > BC > > > > -- > > Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.4 & kernel 3.9.7-1 on a system with- > > AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor > > 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM > > Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU Did you reboot the system? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.4 & kernel 3.9.7-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Wed Jun 26 04:24:36 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 04:24:36 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au> References: , ,,, ,,, <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, ,,, ,,, <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, ,,, <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, , , , , , , <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au> , <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Basil, I just did rebooting.. Unfortunately no change. Ramesh > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 14:07:18 +1000 > From: blchupin at iinet.net.au > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > > On 26/06/13 12:51, Ramesh Rao wrote: > > Hi Basil, > > > > Well, none of the options are checked. That means: > > - Enable automatic mounting of removable media - not checked > > - Only automatically mount removable media that has been manually > > mounted before - not checked > > - Mount all removable media at login - not checked > > - Automatically mount removable media when attached - not checked > > > > After reading your email I *checked* "*Enable automatic mounting of > > removable media*" along with "*Automatically mount removable media > > when attached".* > > > > > > This made NO difference. The device remains undetected by the OS. Any > > more suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Ramesh > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:02:38 +1000 > > > From: blchupin at iinet.net.au > > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > > > > > > On 26/06/13 03:00, Ramesh Rao wrote: > > > > Charles, > > > > > > > > Plugging in the USB (ext drive) after booting the workstation made no > > > > difference. There is no indication that a device has been added. > > > > "Device Notifier" says "No devices available". On the contrary, if a > > > > flash drive is inserted in the same usb port, Device Notifier pops > > up, > > > > as it should. > > > > > > > > I am kind of lost.. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ramesh > > > [pruned] > > > > > > What have you set in System Settings>Removable Devices? > > > > > > BC > > > > > > -- > > > Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.4 & kernel 3.9.7-1 on a system with- > > > AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor > > > 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM > > > Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU > > Did you reboot the system? > > BC > > -- > Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.4 & kernel 3.9.7-1 on a system with- > AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor > 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM > Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Wed Jun 26 05:55:59 2013 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:55:59 +0200 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520> <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com> <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com> <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au> <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Ramesh Rao wrote: > Basil, > > I just did rebooting.. Unfortunately no change. > > Ramesh I see you still have not tried my idea. -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From fr.deniscarterssc at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jun 26 06:13:34 2013 From: fr.deniscarterssc at tiscali.co.uk (Fr. Denis Carter SSC) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:13:34 +0100 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au> References: , , , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , , , , <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, , , , <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au> <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <51CA868E.1080609@tiscali.co.uk> Hi There, I have not contributed to this before now but I had a similar problem with an external Hard drive and discovered that when I plugged in a power supply to the drive it was discovered at once. On 26/06/13 05:07, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 26/06/13 12:51, Ramesh Rao wrote: >> Hi Basil, >> >> Well, none of the options are checked. That means: >> - Enable automatic mounting of removable media - not checked >> - Only automatically mount removable media that has been manually >> mounted before - not checked >> - Mount all removable media at login - not checked >> - Automatically mount removable media when attached - not checked >> >> After reading your email I *checked* "*Enable automatic mounting of >> removable media*" along with "*Automatically mount removable media >> when attached".* >> >> >> This made NO difference. The device remains undetected by the OS. Any >> more suggestions? >> >> Thanks, >> Ramesh >> >> >> > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:02:38 +1000 >> > From: blchupin at iinet.net.au >> > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive >> > >> > On 26/06/13 03:00, Ramesh Rao wrote: >> > > Charles, >> > > >> > > Plugging in the USB (ext drive) after booting the workstation >> made no >> > > difference. There is no indication that a device has been added. >> > > "Device Notifier" says "No devices available". On the contrary, if a >> > > flash drive is inserted in the same usb port, Device Notifier >> pops up, >> > > as it should. >> > > >> > > I am kind of lost.. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Ramesh >> > [pruned] >> > >> > What have you set in System Settings>Removable Devices? >> > >> > BC >> > >> > -- >> > Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.4 & kernel 3.9.7-1 on a system with- >> > AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor >> > 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM >> > Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU > > Did you reboot the system? > > BC > -- Fr. Denis Carter SSC From steve at rileyz.net Wed Jun 26 06:18:16 2013 From: steve at rileyz.net (Steve Riley) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:18:16 -0700 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: <51CA1435.6090209@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <1491274.CgXFi49E0D@t520> On 2013-06-25 22:43:05 Ramesh Rao wrote: > > Steve, does the output from "udevadm monitor" command sent yesterday shed some light, any light? udevadm shows that two modules are loading -- usb_storage and uas. It also shows that the drive has eight partitions, but I don't think that's right. Obviously, the drive has visibility problems in the operating system. A little Googling shows many reports of similar problems. Certain troubleshooting steps have worked in some cases, and not at all in others. Which USB port have you plugged the cable into? If it's a front port, try a rear port instead. These often have much more power. I'm assuming you have a desktop or tower PC. If you have a laptop, ignore this idea. Earlier in the discussion, you include a link (http://www.kiduvinhouse.net/share/ExtSeagateDr.doc) to a document. Here, I see this output: ramesh at mozart:/media$ sudo mount /dev/sdc /media/mnt mount: /dev/sdc is not a valid block device It's normal: you can't mount a device like this. Instead, you have to mount a partition. The proper format would be: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/mnt You might give the above a try, but I doubt anything will happen. Another solution mentions listing the file system type in the mount command. Normally, it isn't necessary these days, because mount can detect the file system automatically. What happens if you try it anyway: sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdc1 /media/mnt I'm assuming in the above that you still have EXT4 partition(s) on the drive from your earlier formatting attempt. Generally, though, we still can't get the various disk tools to properly detect and report what's going on. I want to see if you're getting the same errors that others have reported. With the drive unplugged, please run: tail -f /var/log/syslog 10 lines from your syslog will print on the console, and then it will wait. Now plug in the drive. More lines will appear. Please copy-paste those lines into a reply message. > I take it you are a kubuntu kernel/OS person. > Nope. I am part of the admin team at Kubuntu Forums, though. ...Steve From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Wed Jun 26 06:29:28 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 06:29:28 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: <51CA868E.1080609@tiscali.co.uk> References: , ,,, ,,, <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, ,,, ,,, <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, ,,, <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, , , , , , , <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au> , <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au>, <51CA868E.1080609@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: Fr.Denis Carter, I have plugged in power supply to the unit and connected the unit to the usb port with USB connector. There is "Power" on light that however turns "steady green" ONLY when the connection is detected by OS. In my case, since it is not detected, the green light does not glow. Using Gparted, however, the external drive IS detected by the utility and hence the Green-light does glow. Thanks for your suggestion anyway. Ramesh > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:13:34 +0100 > From: fr.deniscarterssc at tiscali.co.uk > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > > Hi There, > I have not contributed to this before now but I had a similar problem > with an external Hard drive and discovered that when I plugged in a > power supply to the drive it was discovered at once. > > > On 26/06/13 05:07, Basil Chupin wrote: > > On 26/06/13 12:51, Ramesh Rao wrote: > >> Hi Basil, > >> > >> Well, none of the options are checked. That means: > >> - Enable automatic mounting of removable media - not checked > >> - Only automatically mount removable media that has been manually > >> mounted before - not checked > >> - Mount all removable media at login - not checked > >> - Automatically mount removable media when attached - not checked > >> > >> After reading your email I *checked* "*Enable automatic mounting of > >> removable media*" along with "*Automatically mount removable media > >> when attached".* > >> > >> > >> This made NO difference. The device remains undetected by the OS. Any > >> more suggestions? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Ramesh > >> > >> > >> > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:02:38 +1000 > >> > From: blchupin at iinet.net.au > >> > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > >> > > >> > On 26/06/13 03:00, Ramesh Rao wrote: > >> > > Charles, > >> > > > >> > > Plugging in the USB (ext drive) after booting the workstation > >> made no > >> > > difference. There is no indication that a device has been added. > >> > > "Device Notifier" says "No devices available". On the contrary, if a > >> > > flash drive is inserted in the same usb port, Device Notifier > >> pops up, > >> > > as it should. > >> > > > >> > > I am kind of lost.. > >> > > > >> > > Thanks, > >> > > Ramesh > >> > [pruned] > >> > > >> > What have you set in System Settings>Removable Devices? > >> > > >> > BC > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.4 & kernel 3.9.7-1 on a system with- > >> > AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor > >> > 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM > >> > Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU > > > > Did you reboot the system? > > > > BC > > > > > -- > Fr. 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URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed Jun 26 13:39:33 2013 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:39:33 +1000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , , , , , , <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , , , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, , , , , , , <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au> , <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <51CAEF15.4070201@iinet.net.au> On 26/06/13 14:24, Ramesh Rao wrote: > Basil, > > I just did rebooting.. Unfortunately no change. > > Ramesh [pruned] I have to admit that I have not been following this thread so forgive me if I repeat something which has already been suggested and tried. As root, in a terminal, have you done- fdisk -l and what drives show up? and does the external HDD show up as /dev/sdcX? And if it does have you tried to mount it manually with- mount -t ext4 /dev/sdcX /media/xxxxx where sdcX is the external and /media/xxxx is a sub-directory which you may have to first create yourself in the /mount directory? BC PS It would be great if you did not top post when replying to posts here. Thanks. -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.4 & kernel 3.9.7-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Jun 26 15:05:12 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:05:12 +0200 Subject: Choqok and Twitter Message-ID: <51CB0328.4080401@gmail.com> If anyone, like me, found it irritating that Choqok repository version stopped working with Twitter it is quite easy to upgrade: from command line git clone git://anongit.kde.org/choqok Then follow README instructions From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 27 17:23:56 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 17:23:56 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: <51CAEF15.4070201@iinet.net.au> References: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , , , , , , , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au>, , , <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au>, , <51CAEF15.4070201@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Basil, Steve, Basil, I have to learn bottom-posting. Can you give some hint? Google-ing found several hits with good amount of discussion, but no clue how exactly to go about it. I will do better in my next posting. Right now the answers to your questions are: I have done fdisk. The output is here.. The external disk does not show up. =========================================== ramesh at mozart:~$ sudo fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250056000000 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30400 cylinders, total 488390625 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x000e7dce Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 63 112454 56196 12 Compaq diagnostics /dev/sda2 * 112516 488375999 244131742 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda5 112518 4321484 2104483+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda6 4321548 46267199 20972826 83 Linux /dev/sda7 46267263 488375999 221054368+ 83 Linux Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250056000000 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30400 cylinders, total 488390625 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00038aeb Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 63 488375999 244187968+ 83 Linux ============================================= The mount command fails: ============================================= ramesh at mozart:~$ sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdc1 /media/mnt mount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist ============================================= To answer Steve's questions: 1. I have tried USBs both in front and rear of the WorkStation (Sun Ultra 20 M2). Made no difference. 2. As noted above, mount command fails.. (mount -t ext4 /dev/sdc1 /media/mnt) 3. Output from "tail -f /var/log/syslog" is at http://kiduvinhouse.net/share/syslog_out.txt 4. syslog does point to errors. Sorry for the confused order of posting. But it contains all the information. Plz let me know if you need some more debugging info. Thanks again to all. Ramesh Rao > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:39:33 +1000 > From: blchupin at iinet.net.au > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > > On 26/06/13 14:24, Ramesh Rao wrote: > > Basil, > > > > I just did rebooting.. Unfortunately no change. > > > > Ramesh > > [pruned] > > I have to admit that I have not been following this thread so forgive me > if I repeat something which has already been suggested and tried. > > As root, in a terminal, have you done- > > fdisk -l > > and what drives show up? and does the external HDD show up as /dev/sdcX? > > And if it does have you tried to mount it manually with- > > mount -t ext4 /dev/sdcX /media/xxxxx > > where sdcX is the external and /media/xxxx is a sub-directory which you > may have to first create yourself in the /mount directory? > > BC > > PS It would be great if you did not top post when replying to posts > here. Thanks. > > -- > Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.4 & kernel 3.9.7-1 on a system with- > AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor > 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM > Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-usersramesh at mozart:~$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Thu Jun 27 19:08:41 2013 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:08:41 +0200 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520> <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com> <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com> <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au> <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au> <51CAEF15.4070201@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Top posting. 25 is the answer. ## What is 5 times 5? --------------------------------------------------- Bottom posting What is 5 times 5? ## 25 is the answer. -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From magick.crow at gmail.com Thu Jun 27 19:11:16 2013 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:11:16 +0200 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520> <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com> <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com> <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au> <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au> <51CAEF15.4070201@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: > Top posting. > > 25 is the answer. > > ## What is 5 times 5? > > --------------------------------------------------- > Bottom posting > > ## What is 5 times 5? > > 25 is the answer. LOL, FAIL. The above is corrected. :-) -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 27 19:25:05 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:25:05 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , , <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, , , <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au>, , <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au>, , <51CAEF15.4070201@iinet.net.au>, , , Message-ID: Doug, Bottom posting makes the reading logical no doubt. My question was, in say hotmail, how exactly I do this. Is there a "setting" some where? I tried bottom posting but did not find the indentations (>> etc). Funny, I have been in this business of computers for over three decades - both system and application, but never once used bottom-posting. I have seen both pro and cons being discussed passionately though. How shallow can be our knowledge! Thanks, Ramesh > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:11:16 +0200 > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > From: magick.crow at gmail.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Top posting. > > > > 25 is the answer. > > > > ## What is 5 times 5? > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Bottom posting > > > > ## What is 5 times 5? > > > > 25 is the answer. > > LOL, FAIL. > The above is corrected. :-) > > -- > Douglas E Knapp > > Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies > with open source software! > http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php > > Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: > http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm > Please link to me and trade links with me! > > Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. > http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page > http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Thu Jun 27 20:04:17 2013 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:04:17 -0400 Subject: Mail question? Message-ID: <201306271604.17186.gheskett@wdtv.com> Greetings; I've been running amanda for backup for about a decade & change, and all this time it has Just Worked(TM) to have amanda email me a copy of the backup report, essentially the same thing it sends to the printer, which it now is doing correctly. But I had stopped it about a year ago for some reason, and now when I have started it back up, it is not sending me any mail, nor can I send myself mail if I su amanda to run mail -v [my-local- address] Anybody with a clue where this is falling over, better yet, a way to trace it after I hit the 2nd ctrl-D to send it? With the -v option, I get this on the cli: root at coyote:/var/log# su amanda -c "mail -v gene at coyote.coyote.den" Subject: testing Mail now is the time Cc: Mail Delivery Status Report will be mailed to . root at coyote:/var/log# ls -l ../spool/mail/ total 0 -rw-r--r-- 1 amanda disk 0 2013-06-22 21:38 amanda Any clues appreciated, thanks. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: is up! My views You can do more with a kind word and a gun than with just a kind word. -- Al Capone A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. From magick.crow at gmail.com Thu Jun 27 20:04:35 2013 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:04:35 +0200 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520> <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com> <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com> <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au> <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au> <51CAEF15.4070201@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Ramesh Rao wrote: > Doug, > > Bottom posting makes the reading logical no doubt. My question was, in say > hotmail, how exactly I do this. Is there a "setting" some where? I tried > bottom posting but did not find the indentations (>> etc). > > Funny, I have been in this business of computers for over three decades - > both system and application, but never once used bottom-posting. I have seen > both pro and cons being discussed passionately though. > > How shallow can be our knowledge! > > Thanks, > Ramesh I stopped using Hotmail right after MS bought them and turned it to Sh*t, so I have no clue about that. I then went to Yahoo and found them wanting so I switched to Google and have been happy ever since. I just scroll down and start writing after cleaning up and editing the above text as needed. -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Fri Jun 28 01:09:11 2013 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis M) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 03:09:11 +0200 Subject: Toshiba bios update Ubuntu Message-ID: Hello, My sisters Toshiba laptop needs a bios update, the only software to update is for Windows. How do i update the bios in Ubuntu? Do i need to call Toshiba for it? Regards Dennis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Fri Jun 28 02:59:56 2013 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:59:56 -0400 Subject: mailing list for mail/Mail/mailx Message-ID: <201306272259.56428.gheskett@wdtv.com> Hello all; I'm on 10.04.4 LTS yet, and have a 'mail' problem, as it is either sending to ~/dead.letter or straight into a /dev/null. It did work a year ago, and I have no clue when it stopped working because I had temporarily stopped using the backup app, amanda, that used it. Googling for mail's mailing list only gets me 20 some pages of people trying to sell a mailng list, or how to setup mailman to run a list. So, does anyone know where I can join the "mail" mailing list? Thanks. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: is up! My views Where there are visible vapors, having their prevenance in ignited carbonaceous materials, there is conflagration. A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri Jun 28 04:44:08 2013 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:44:08 +1000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , , , , , , , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au>, , , <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au>, , <51CAEF15.4070201@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <51CD1498.1000005@iinet.net.au> On 28/06/13 03:23, Ramesh Rao wrote: > Basil, Steve, > > Basil, I have to learn bottom-posting. Can you give some hint? > Google-ing found several hits with good amount of discussion, but no > clue how exactly to go about it. I will do better in my next posting. > > Right now the answers to your questions are: > > I have done fdisk. The output is here.. *The external disk does not > show up*. [pruned] Tell me, the 2T external HDD uses USB3 but you are trying to plug it into a USB1 port - right or wrong? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.4 & kernel 3.9.7-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Fri Jun 28 05:30:51 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 05:30:51 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: <51CD1498.1000005@iinet.net.au> References: , , , , , ,,, , , , , ,,, , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , ,,, , , , , ,,, , , , ,,<51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , , , , ,,, , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>,,, , , , , ,,, , , , , , ,,<51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au>, ,,, <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au>, , , , <51CAEF15.4070201@iinet.net.au> , <51CD1498.1000005@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: My work station (Sun Ultra 20 M2) has six USB 2.0 ports. I am plugging in USB 3.0 external drive (Seagate Backup Plus). I am pretty sure it is backward compatible. Incidentally, couple of hours back, I plugged in the same device on an identical machine (Sun Ultra 20 M2). Lo and behold, the drive was up and working in 5 minutes. I have saved the outputs from fdsik, lsusb, lsblk, tail /var/log/syslog etc The ONLY difference is that the other machine is running kubuntu version 12.04. It certainly points to some issue with the one that I am using- kubuntu version 11.10. I shall email copies of the command outputs tomorrow, Fri 28. Thanks, Ramesh > Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:44:08 +1000 > From: blchupin at iinet.net.au > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > > On 28/06/13 03:23, Ramesh Rao wrote: > > Basil, Steve, > > > > Basil, I have to learn bottom-posting. Can you give some hint? > > Google-ing found several hits with good amount of discussion, but no > > clue how exactly to go about it. I will do better in my next posting. > > > > Right now the answers to your questions are:/ > > I have done fdisk. The output is here.. *The external disk does not > > show up*. > > [pruned] > > > Tell me, the 2T external HDD uses USB3 but you are trying to plug it > into a USB1 port - right or wrong? > > BC > > -- > Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.4 & kernel 3.9.7-1 on a system with- > AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor > 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM > Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Jun 28 08:02:30 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:02:30 +0200 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , , , , , , , , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au>, , , , <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au>, , , , <51CAEF15.4070201@iinet.net.au> , <51CD1498.1000005@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <51CD4316.5080207@gmail.com> On 28/06/2013 07:30, Ramesh Rao wrote: > My work station (Sun Ultra 20 M2) has six *USB 2.0 ports*. I am plugging > in *USB 3.0* external drive (Seagate Backup Plus). I am pretty sure it > is backward compatible. > > Incidentally, couple of hours back, I plugged in the same device on an > identical machine (Sun Ultra 20 M2). Lo and behold, the drive was up and > working in 5 minutes. I have saved the outputs from fdsik, lsusb, lsblk, > tail /var/log/syslog etc > > The *ONLY difference is that the other machine is running kubuntu > version 12.04*. It certainly points to some issue with the one that I am > using- kubuntu version 11.10. > > I shall email copies of the command outputs tomorrow, Fri 28. > 11.10 could very well have issues with USB3 devices, why not upgrade? From pwhite at bluewin.ch Fri Jun 28 10:54:56 2013 From: pwhite at bluewin.ch (Perry) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:54:56 +0200 Subject: Toshiba bios update Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2498358.ITq8NUGb2L@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Le vendredi, 28 juin 2013 03.09:11 Dennis M a écrit : > Hello, > My sisters Toshiba laptop needs a bios update, the only software to update > is for Windows. How do i update the bios in Ubuntu? > Do i need to call Toshiba for it? > > Regards Dennis Hi, I believe the bios is a low level firmware interface, generally written by the computer manufacturer, if you also have Windows installed you could use it to update your bios. Else you will have to call Toshiba to get the bios executable ( NOT the Windows executable). Have a look at : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Flashing_BIOS_from_Linux Will this update interfere with Linux booting and necessitate an update-grub, I don't know. To be on the safe side I would first do a back-up. HTH Perry -- BOFH excuse #325: Your processor does not develop enough heat From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Fri Jun 28 14:49:35 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:49:35 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: <51CD4316.5080207@gmail.com> References: , , , , , , ,,, , , , , ,,, , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, ,,, , , , , ,,, , , , , , , , ,,<51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , , , , , ,,, , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>,,, , , , , ,,, , , , ,,, , , , ,,<51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au>, ,,, , <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au>, ,,, ,,<51CAEF15.4070201@iinet.net.au> , , <51CD1498.1000005@iinet.net.au> ,<51CD4316.5080207@gmail.com> Message-ID: It is a Catch 22 proposition. In order to upgrade, I thought of backing up files on the external drive. Now it seems I need to upgrade in order for the ext drive to work. Never a dull moment in this software-business! Thanks all the same. Ramesh > Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:02:30 +0200 > From: o.sinclair at gmail.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > > On 28/06/2013 07:30, Ramesh Rao wrote: > > My work station (Sun Ultra 20 M2) has six *USB 2.0 ports*. I am plugging > > in *USB 3.0* external drive (Seagate Backup Plus). I am pretty sure it > > is backward compatible. > > > > Incidentally, couple of hours back, I plugged in the same device on an > > identical machine (Sun Ultra 20 M2). Lo and behold, the drive was up and > > working in 5 minutes. I have saved the outputs from fdsik, lsusb, lsblk, > > tail /var/log/syslog etc > > > > The *ONLY difference is that the other machine is running kubuntu > > version 12.04*. It certainly points to some issue with the one that I am > > using- kubuntu version 11.10. > > > > I shall email copies of the command outputs tomorrow, Fri 28. > > > 11.10 could very well have issues with USB3 devices, why not upgrade? > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Fri Jun 28 18:24:19 2013 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:24:19 +0200 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520> <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com> <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com> <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au> <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au> <51CAEF15.4070201@iinet.net.au> <51CD1498.1000005@iinet.net.au> <51CD4316.5080207@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Ramesh Rao wrote: > It is a Catch 22 proposition. In order to upgrade, I thought of backing up > files on the external drive. Now it seems I need to upgrade in order for the > ext drive to work. > > Never a dull moment in this software-business! > > Thanks all the same. > > Ramesh As I said before, stick a live disk in the drive and back up the drive with that. -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From rameshrao55 at hotmail.com Fri Jun 28 20:04:11 2013 From: rameshrao55 at hotmail.com (Ramesh Rao) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:04:11 +0000 Subject: External Backup Disk Drive In-Reply-To: References: , , , <5160676.yXDuDxPHk1@t520>, , , <51C8DBD7.2020104@cfl.rr.com>, , <51C929CE.3050309@cfl.rr.com>, , , <51CA4BBE.2020303@iinet.net.au>, , <51CA68F6.6080108@iinet.net.au>, , <51CAEF15.4070201@iinet.net.au>, , <51CD1498.1000005@iinet.net.au>, , <51CD4316.5080207@gmail.com>, , Message-ID: Thanks.. I have already done it. I have also booted off the the flash drive after creating "Startup Disk" on it. No sooner the system is up, the external device gets detected. I now need to install the 12.04 off the Startup disk. Thanks all again.. Ramesh > Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:24:19 +0200 > Subject: Re: External Backup Disk Drive > From: magick.crow at gmail.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Ramesh Rao wrote: > > It is a Catch 22 proposition. In order to upgrade, I thought of backing up > > files on the external drive. Now it seems I need to upgrade in order for the > > ext drive to work. > > > > Never a dull moment in this software-business! > > > > Thanks all the same. > > > > Ramesh > > As I said before, stick a live disk in the drive and back up the drive > with that. > > -- > Douglas E Knapp > > Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies > with open source software! > http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php > > Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: > http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm > Please link to me and trade links with me! > > Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. > http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page > http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Sat Jun 29 21:28:11 2013 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 17:28:11 -0400 Subject: mailing list for mail/Mail/mailx In-Reply-To: <201306272259.56428.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201306272259.56428.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201306291728.11110.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Saturday 29 June 2013 17:13:31 Gene Heskett did opine: Ping?? > Hello all; > > I'm on 10.04.4 LTS yet, and have a 'mail' problem, as it is either > sending to ~/dead.letter or straight into a /dev/null. It did work a > year ago, and I have no clue when it stopped working because I had > temporarily stopped using the backup app, amanda, that used it. > > Googling for mail's mailing list only gets me 20 some pages of people > trying to sell a mailng list, or how to setup mailman to run a list. > > So, does anyone know where I can join the "mail" mailing list? > > Thanks. > > Cheers, Gene Well, since there seems not to be anyone knowledgeable about "mail-Mail- mailx (they are all the same ack the man page) and my install doesn't seem to even give me the responses that the manpage talks about, (-d does nothing, and -v for verbose has to be threatened to get any kind of a message out of it, none of which is the least bit useful for debugging. So now I am asking what I can install that replaces mail with a transparent, works like mail is supposed to, equivalent? All I really need is to restore the ability of a process, running as any user, to send me a completion status msg. Is the not such a beast? Thanks. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: is up! My views <|Rain|> #define struct union /* great space saver */ A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. From henry.linux.1973 at gmail.com Sat Jun 29 21:56:23 2013 From: henry.linux.1973 at gmail.com (Henry Linux) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 18:56:23 -0300 Subject: Toshiba bios update Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2013/6/27 Dennis M > Hello, > My sisters Toshiba laptop needs a bios update, the only software to update > is for Windows. > How do i update the bios in Ubuntu? > Do i need to call Toshiba for it? > > Regards Dennis > > once a time I read on the web that there is a command on linux for Flashing Roms I use Kubuntu and in my packer manager found this command: flashrom https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-qeTdEVEbMyYi1NdHJJUmlZWEU/edit?usp=sharing sudo apt-get flashrom is a utility to flas bios on linux. READ ALL Documentation and manpages BEFORE USE IT! 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URL: From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Sun Jun 30 01:32:19 2013 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Charles Bell) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 21:32:19 -0400 Subject: mailing list for mail/Mail/mailx In-Reply-To: <201306291728.11110.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201306272259.56428.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201306291728.11110.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <51CF8AA3.3000802@cfl.rr.com> On 06/29/2013 05:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 29 June 2013 17:13:31 Gene Heskett did opine: > > Ping?? > >> Hello all; >> >> I'm on 10.04.4 LTS yet, and have a 'mail' problem, as it is either >> sending to ~/dead.letter or straight into a /dev/null. It did work a >> year ago, and I have no clue when it stopped working because I had >> temporarily stopped using the backup app, amanda, that used it. >> >> Googling for mail's mailing list only gets me 20 some pages of people >> trying to sell a mailng list, or how to setup mailman to run a list. >> >> So, does anyone know where I can join the "mail" mailing list? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Cheers, Gene > Well, since there seems not to be anyone knowledgeable about "mail-Mail- > mailx (they are all the same ack the man page) and my install doesn't seem > to even give me the responses that the manpage talks about, (-d does > nothing, and -v for verbose has to be threatened to get any kind of a > message out of it, none of which is the least bit useful for debugging. > > So now I am asking what I can install that replaces mail with a > transparent, works like mail is supposed to, equivalent? All I really need > is to restore the ability of a process, running as any user, to send me a > completion status msg. Is the not such a beast? > > Thanks. > > Cheers, Gene Have you tried "sendmail". You can install it using Apt-Get and then read the manpages on its use. If it is not what you want, you can remove it. Good luck! Charles Bell -- "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt From clay at claydoh.com Sun Jun 30 01:49:08 2013 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 21:49:08 -0400 Subject: mailing list for mail/Mail/mailx In-Reply-To: <201306291728.11110.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201306272259.56428.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201306291728.11110.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <3465591.1EIqpIeCjZ@lark-latitude-d630> On Saturday, June 29, 2013 05:28:11 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 29 June 2013 17:13:31 Gene Heskett did opine: > > Ping?? > > > Hello all; > > > > I'm on 10.04.4 LTS yet, and have a 'mail' problem, as it is either > > sending to ~/dead.letter or straight into a /dev/null. It did work a > > year ago, and I have no clue when it stopped working because I had > > temporarily stopped using the backup app, amanda, that used it. > > > > Googling for mail's mailing list only gets me 20 some pages of people > > trying to sell a mailng list, or how to setup mailman to run a list. > > > > So, does anyone know where I can join the "mail" mailing list? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Cheers, Gene > > Well, since there seems not to be anyone knowledgeable about "mail-Mail- > mailx (they are all the same ack the man page) and my install doesn't seem > to even give me the responses that the manpage talks about, (-d does > nothing, and -v for verbose has to be threatened to get any kind of a > message out of it, none of which is the least bit useful for debugging. > > So now I am asking what I can install that replaces mail with a > transparent, works like mail is supposed to, equivalent? All I really need > is to restore the ability of a process, running as any user, to send me a > completion status msg. Is the not such a beast? > > Thanks. > > Cheers, Gene Mail is part of gnu mailutils http://www.gnu.org/software/mailutils/mailutils.html Don't see a list outside of one for bug reporting, but I have not delved too deeply. -- Clay Weber (claydoh) http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com From gheskett at wdtv.com Sun Jun 30 02:54:14 2013 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:54:14 -0400 Subject: mailing list for mail/Mail/mailx In-Reply-To: <51CF8AA3.3000802@cfl.rr.com> References: <201306272259.56428.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201306291728.11110.gheskett@wdtv.com> <51CF8AA3.3000802@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <201306292254.15071.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Saturday 29 June 2013 22:51:54 Charles Bell did opine: > On 06/29/2013 05:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 29 June 2013 17:13:31 Gene Heskett did opine: > > > > Ping?? > > > >> Hello all; > >> > >> I'm on 10.04.4 LTS yet, and have a 'mail' problem, as it is either > >> sending to ~/dead.letter or straight into a /dev/null. It did work a > >> year ago, and I have no clue when it stopped working because I had > >> temporarily stopped using the backup app, amanda, that used it. > >> > >> Googling for mail's mailing list only gets me 20 some pages of people > >> trying to sell a mailng list, or how to setup mailman to run a list. > >> > >> So, does anyone know where I can join the "mail" mailing list? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Cheers, Gene > > > > Well, since there seems not to be anyone knowledgeable about > > "mail-Mail- mailx (they are all the same ack the man page) and my > > install doesn't seem to even give me the responses that the manpage > > talks about, (-d does nothing, and -v for verbose has to be > > threatened to get any kind of a message out of it, none of which is > > the least bit useful for debugging. > > > > So now I am asking what I can install that replaces mail with a > > transparent, works like mail is supposed to, equivalent? All I really > > need is to restore the ability of a process, running as any user, to > > send me a completion status msg. Is the not such a beast? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Cheers, Gene > > Have you tried "sendmail". You can install it using Apt-Get and then > read the manpages on its use. If it is not what you want, you can > remove it. > Good luck! > > Charles Bell I've considered it, but the last time I had to deal with sendmail.cf, I wound up taking an oath to never again touch it. But like Obummer, I guess oaths are performed to be broken. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: is up! My views It usually takes more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu speech. -- Mark Twain A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. From gheskett at wdtv.com Sun Jun 30 03:00:07 2013 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 23:00:07 -0400 Subject: mailing list for mail/Mail/mailx In-Reply-To: <3465591.1EIqpIeCjZ@lark-latitude-d630> References: <201306272259.56428.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201306291728.11110.gheskett@wdtv.com> <3465591.1EIqpIeCjZ@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <201306292300.07873.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Saturday 29 June 2013 22:59:23 Clay Weber did opine: > On Saturday, June 29, 2013 05:28:11 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 29 June 2013 17:13:31 Gene Heskett did opine: > > > > Ping?? > > > > > Hello all; > > > > > > I'm on 10.04.4 LTS yet, and have a 'mail' problem, as it is either > > > sending to ~/dead.letter or straight into a /dev/null. It did work > > > a year ago, and I have no clue when it stopped working because I > > > had temporarily stopped using the backup app, amanda, that used it. > > > > > > Googling for mail's mailing list only gets me 20 some pages of > > > people trying to sell a mailng list, or how to setup mailman to run > > > a list. > > > > > > So, does anyone know where I can join the "mail" mailing list? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Cheers, Gene > > > > Well, since there seems not to be anyone knowledgeable about > > "mail-Mail- mailx (they are all the same ack the man page) and my > > install doesn't seem to even give me the responses that the manpage > > talks about, (-d does nothing, and -v for verbose has to be > > threatened to get any kind of a message out of it, none of which is > > the least bit useful for debugging. > > > > So now I am asking what I can install that replaces mail with a > > transparent, works like mail is supposed to, equivalent? All I really > > need is to restore the ability of a process, running as any user, to > > send me a completion status msg. Is the not such a beast? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Cheers, Gene > > Mail is part of gnu mailutils > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailutils/mailutils.html > Don't see a list outside of one for bug reporting, but I have not delved > too deeply. Subscription being processed, thank you Clay. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: is up! My views You can write a small letter to Grandma in the filename. -- Forbes Burkowski, CS, University of Washington A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Sun Jun 30 18:56:35 2013 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:56:35 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <7313.67347495393-sendEmail@xpresso> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:56:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Vance X-X-Sender: kbun at xpresso.com To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Auto Starting Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Howdy; I'm running 12.04 now, but somewhere between kubuntu 6 or 7 and now, I recall seeing occaissional reference to a directory in which you could put stuff, and have the system automatically run it in the background when it booted up. Now that I'm looking for it, it has of course, completely vanished. "locate auto|less", reveals several gigabytes worth of stuff, all apperently application specific. Is something like what I'm looking for still around, or is my memory playing tricks? Bill From clay at claydoh.com Sun Jun 30 19:33:16 2013 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 15:33:16 -0400 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <7313.67347495393-sendEmail@xpresso> References: <7313.67347495393-sendEmail@xpresso> Message-ID: <1444770.PS84Or7dkd@lark-latitude-d630> On Sunday, June 30, 2013 06:56:35 PM kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org wrote: > Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:56:34 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bill Vance > X-X-Sender: kbun at xpresso.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Auto Starting > Message-ID: > User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII > > > Howdy; > > I'm running 12.04 now, but somewhere between kubuntu 6 or 7 > and now, I recall seeing occaissional reference to a > directory in which you could put stuff, and have the system > automatically run it in the background when it booted up. > > Now that I'm looking for it, it has of course, completely > vanished. "locate auto|less", reveals several gigabytes > worth of stuff, all apperently application specific. > > Is something like what I'm looking for still around, or is > my memory playing tricks? > > Bill ~/.config/autostart perhaps? This will start something during logging in, after booting. You can add programs or scripts using a gui in System Settings >> Startup and Shutdown. The added items can be disabled/enabled from there as well. -- Clay Weber (claydoh) http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com