From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 10:45:50 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 20:45:50 +1000 Subject: Tried Unity for a bit In-Reply-To: <50674D64.10704@free.fr> References: <1394489.u6NPg2yu58@lindsay-kubuntu-12> <50674D64.10704@free.fr> Message-ID: <1741072.V4ckKbN8Kr@lindsay-quantal> On Saturday 29 September 2012 21:35:00 Girard Henri wrote: > I liked gnome3 over kde4 because it's quicker. I am surprised about > nautilus, because it works fine here, much better than dolphin (maybe it's > a matter of habit ?). True that, my preference for Dolphin is probably largely because I'm very used to it and know how to use it. I really should try using Unity for at least a week. > I liked thunderbird because with hotmail and gmail it > configures automaticaly. Kmail is finally starting to do that properly > I prefer kde4 themes and specially qtcurve aqua > but as it works fine with gtk2 I am very happy (not yet working with gtk-3. > I find gnome3 themes to dark that's horrible. But as I don't know how to do > it I keep to it. I use fakeosx but now in gnome3 it's not too nice. kde4 > has wonderfull themes. That it does. From basroufs at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 13:17:02 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:17:02 +0200 Subject: WIFI/ KNetworkmanager: very good at one netbook, weird behaviour at another one. In-Reply-To: <201209291900.47070.kassube@gmx.net> References: <14664164.8EHQ1nNSML@viaconsensus-travel> <2097359.7USDbyv51j@bas> <201209291900.47070.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Seemingly, the problem because of which I started this thread, has been solved. > > > > While writing this reply message, I found a 2nd "workaround": > > UNchecking the box "enable wireless", and checking it again. After > > doing so, the WIFI connection seemingly goes on without further > > interruption. > > Good - let's hope that it is stable now. Of course it would be better if > this extra action wouldn't be necessary. At the machine in question, the HP Pavilion dm 1, I carried out another fresh install. I first loaded Kubuntu from the DVD to the laptop. After doing so, I activated a wireless internet connection before starting the installation process. After the installation, I have used the "workaround" summarised above only once. At each restart afterwords, the system automatically and correctly catches the WIFI signal. Thanks for all the input in this thread. Respectfully yours, Bas Roufs. -- ==================== Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands E. BasRoufs at gmail.com Mob. +31 6 446 835 10 Tel. +31 30 785 20 40 Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.04 Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu Viaconsensus.nl RainbowGathering.eu From juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 03:00:42 2012 From: juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com (Juan R. de Silva) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 03:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Tried Unity for a bit References: <1394489.u6NPg2yu58@lindsay-kubuntu-12> <50674D64.10704@free.fr> Message-ID: On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 21:35:00 +0200, Girard Henri wrote: > I liked gnome3 over kde4 because it's quicker. I am surprised about > nautilus, because it works fine here, much better than dolphin (maybe > it's a matter of habit ?). I see you liked nautilus in gnome3. My guess is, you have tried gnome3 4.x. Try downloading gnome3 6.0 live iso from GNOME org web site and see what they did to poor nautilus. They succeeded to truncate it to the point that once one of the most powerful file managers became a totally incapable and useless piece of junk. I used to prefer nautilus over dolphin. From now on the only decent modern file manager left in linux is dolphin. The only other option is to use old venerable Midnight Commander. I join people wondering what smoke (or drink ?) these lunatics in GNOME org. From girardhenri at free.fr Wed Oct 3 07:13:04 2012 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:13:04 +0200 Subject: Tried Unity for a bit In-Reply-To: References: <1394489.u6NPg2yu58@lindsay-kubuntu-12> <50674D64.10704@free.fr> Message-ID: <506BE580.9050505@free.fr> Le 03/10/2012 05:00, Juan R. de Silva a écrit : > On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 21:35:00 +0200, Girard Henri wrote: > >> I liked gnome3 over kde4 because it's quicker. I am surprised about >> nautilus, because it works fine here, much better than dolphin (maybe >> it's a matter of habit ?). > I see you liked nautilus in gnome3. My guess is, you have tried gnome3 > 4.x. > > Try downloading gnome3 6.0 live iso from GNOME org web site and see what > they did to poor nautilus. They succeeded to truncate it to the point > that once one of the most powerful file managers became a totally > incapable and useless piece of junk. > > I used to prefer nautilus over dolphin. From now on the only decent > modern file manager left in linux is dolphin. The only other option is to > use old venerable Midnight Commander. > > I join people wondering what smoke (or drink ?) these lunatics in GNOME > org. I use quantal with gnome3.6 I think they might comme back to a normal bordeaux or Saint Emilion ! lol From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 13:06:08 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:06:08 +0200 Subject: 4.9.2 Message-ID: <506C3840.3060800@gmail.com> Updates to 4.9.2 have started hitting the backports-repo. Anyone upgraded yet? Best to wait for official announcement? Kind regards Sinclair From theuteck at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 13:11:24 2012 From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 08:11:24 -0500 Subject: 4.9.2 In-Reply-To: <506C3840.3060800@gmail.com> References: <506C3840.3060800@gmail.com> Message-ID: I would wait a day or two just so any packaging mistakes get worked out, or the one or two dependencies everything else needs gets added. On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:06 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > Updates to 4.9.2 have started hitting the backports-repo. Anyone upgraded > yet? Best to wait for official announcement? > > Kind regards > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- no .sig found Please restart your browser. From gkourtev at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 08:28:13 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 11:28:13 +0300 Subject: Strange message after 4.9.2 upgrade Message-ID: Dear all, After upgrading to 4.9.2, I have this message to appear from time to time (when Akonadi is checking the google calendar): "Google Calendar: Items requested for an unknown collection" Anyone else with this issue? What is this and any ideas how to solve it? Thanks, gk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:52:21 +0200 Subject: Strange message after 4.9.2 upgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3238159.CCYgy1sOGj@viaconsensus-travel> Hello Georgi, > After upgrading to 4.9.2, I have this message to appear from time to time > (when Akonadi is checking the google calendar): > "Google Calendar: Items requested for an unknown collection" Yesterday I too upgraded to KDE 4.9.2. from 4.9.1. So far, this message did not show up. On the contrary, Kontact works much smoother in my case ever since this upgrade. However, another detail springs to my mind which might be a useful "workaround". A few weeks ago, I added the ppa backports to my repository, after which I upgraded to 4.9.1. Via SYSTEM SETTINGS > personal info > Akonadi Resources Configuration, I found 2 new agents: "akonadi_googlecontacts_resource" "akonadi_googlecalendar_resource". I installed those ones and uninstalled older agents with the same function. While installing each of them, I did the following: + giving in the right Gmail username and password; + give Kontact permission to access my google addressbook, calendar and tasks. Ever since that moment, syncing contacts, agenda and tasks works much, much better. I would advise you to check and adapt the settings in the same way. Respectfulll yours, Bas Roufs. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands, EU E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.04, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . From gkourtev at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 13:15:06 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:15:06 +0300 Subject: Strange message after 4.9.2 upgrade In-Reply-To: <3238159.CCYgy1sOGj@viaconsensus-travel> References: <3238159.CCYgy1sOGj@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <3377259.VVcMOuCSAu@gkourtev-laptop> On Thursday 04 October 2012 11:52:21 Bas Roufs -En. wrote: > Hello Georgi, > > > After upgrading to 4.9.2, I have this message to appear from time to time > > (when Akonadi is checking the google calendar): > > "Google Calendar: Items requested for an unknown collection" > > Yesterday I too upgraded to KDE 4.9.2. from 4.9.1. > So far, this message did not show up. On the contrary, Kontact works much > smoother in my case ever since this upgrade. > > However, another detail springs to my mind which might be a useful > "workaround". A few weeks ago, I added the ppa backports to my repository, > after which I upgraded to 4.9.1. > Via SYSTEM SETTINGS > personal info > Akonadi Resources Configuration, I > found 2 new agents: > "akonadi_googlecontacts_resource" > "akonadi_googlecalendar_resource". > I installed those ones and uninstalled older agents with the same function. > While installing each of them, I did the following: > + giving in the right Gmail username and password; > + give Kontact permission to access my google addressbook, calendar and > tasks. Ever since that moment, syncing contacts, agenda and tasks works > much, much better. > I would advise you to check and adapt the settings in the same way. > Respectfulll yours, > Bas Roufs. You are absolutely correct! There are two new items that are within Akonadi with a small Google icon. After installing these and following the steps described by you, I have a copy of the FULL (compared to the previous option) performance of both contacts and calendar (incl. tasks). Thanks, gk From theuteck at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 13:39:39 2012 From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 08:39:39 -0500 Subject: Strange message after 4.9.2 upgrade In-Reply-To: <3377259.VVcMOuCSAu@gkourtev-laptop> References: <3238159.CCYgy1sOGj@viaconsensus-travel> <3377259.VVcMOuCSAu@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Georgi Kourtev wrote: > On Thursday 04 October 2012 11:52:21 Bas Roufs -En. wrote: >> Hello Georgi, >> >> > After upgrading to 4.9.2, I have this message to appear from time to time >> > (when Akonadi is checking the google calendar): >> > "Google Calendar: Items requested for an unknown collection" >> >> Yesterday I too upgraded to KDE 4.9.2. from 4.9.1. >> So far, this message did not show up. On the contrary, Kontact works much >> smoother in my case ever since this upgrade. >> >> However, another detail springs to my mind which might be a useful >> "workaround". A few weeks ago, I added the ppa backports to my repository, >> after which I upgraded to 4.9.1. >> Via SYSTEM SETTINGS > personal info > Akonadi Resources Configuration, I >> found 2 new agents: >> "akonadi_googlecontacts_resource" >> "akonadi_googlecalendar_resource". >> I installed those ones and uninstalled older agents with the same function. >> While installing each of them, I did the following: >> + giving in the right Gmail username and password; >> + give Kontact permission to access my google addressbook, calendar and >> tasks. Ever since that moment, syncing contacts, agenda and tasks works >> much, much better. >> I would advise you to check and adapt the settings in the same way. >> Respectfulll yours, >> Bas Roufs. > > You are absolutely correct! There are two new items that are within Akonadi > with a small Google icon. After installing these and following the steps > described by you, I have a copy of the FULL (compared to the previous option) > performance of both contacts and calendar (incl. tasks). Thanks, > gk > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users That is great to hear. I stopped using kontact a few months ago because the integration with the rest of Google stopped working and I could not get it back, but after getting burned by Thunderbird updates breaking add-ons I'll have to try kontact again. One thing Thunderbird has spoiled me with is the ability to automatically reply to email with the account it arrived in. Kmail uses the default account to send messages, so I have to remember to change that when replying to messages from my mail-list account so it does not get sent from my friends-and-family account. -- no .sig found Please restart your browser. From basroufs at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 14:26:59 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs -En.) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:26:59 +0200 Subject: First impression of Kontact after upgrade to KDE 4.9.2. Message-ID: <1878698.BgphZdDlyr@viaconsensus-travel> Hello Everybody, at one of my laptops, I carried out yesterday an upgrade to KDE 4.9.2.: via a ppa-backport, from it's predecessor 4.9.1., at Kubuntu 12.04. In KDE 4.9.1., Kontact was functional but hat several "rough edges", failures and drawbacks. Most of them seem to have gone after the upgrade to 4.9.2. IMAP synchronisation - KMail- goes much smoother now. Earlier this week, I had difficulties to excess the IMAP folder for incoming mail - but this problem had to do with something wrong on the servers of Google - not with Kontact. Exactly the same problem popped up in the IMAP mail client of my phone. An interesting innovation coming with KDE 4.9.* are two agents related to a gmail account: one for contacts, another one for calendar and tasks. I already pointed to them in an other thread at this forum. Calendar and contact sync function nearly flawlessly now. Each change in the calendar or contact list quickly appears also elsewhere: both "online", in my google account and at my mobile phone (Android 4.03, Lenovo A750.) Synchronisation of tasks with my google account was (seemingly) impossible until and including KDE 4.8.*. Today, I did manage to sync them with both the online and mobile phone version of the task list. Also syncing a task works in all possible directions now. Adding a new task or editing an existing one is possible at every device connected to my Gmail account. After syncing, the new or reedited task appears "everywhere" quite quickly. This is the first time I observe this syncing possibility ever since I started working with Kontact - 2 or 3 years ago. However, the devil is in the detail . Two nasty things need to be taken into account: 1. Only the due DATE is being synced. ============================== Only the due DATE is being supported by Google, not the due TIME. The priority rating, start date and start time are NOT visible in Google, hence, also not in the phone. That's why, it is better to insert such information also in the tekst that specifies the task: that part also appears "everywhere". 2. To-do list synchronised, notwithstanding an "error" pop-up =================================================== When editing an existing task or inserting a new one at the "to do" list in Kontact, I immediately get an error pop-up with the following text: akonadi_googlecalendar_resource_0. User quota exceeded. Try again later. Google replied: "backend error". However, the new new task or change in the existing one DOES come back in both Google and at my mobile phone. So, the problem here is not the synchronisation, but the apparently ill-founded error report. I hope, this reflection is useful for someone. Respectfully yours, Bas Roufs. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands, EU E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.04, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 12:24:14 2012 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 13:24:14 +0100 Subject: KOrganizer: Week and day views greyed out Message-ID: <2156160.QMZPh6nF7E@rachael> Upgraded to KDE 4.9.2 this week and I've just noticed that Korganiser no longer has a week view or a day view. The icons I've had in the tool bar are now greyed out and the only option seems to be month view. Is anyone else seeing this? From oeyrvin at hagan.no Sat Oct 6 23:28:16 2012 From: oeyrvin at hagan.no (Ole-Erik) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 01:28:16 +0200 Subject: KOrganizer: Week and day views greyed out In-Reply-To: <2156160.QMZPh6nF7E@rachael> References: <2156160.QMZPh6nF7E@rachael> Message-ID: <2398779.92Xc9oNGVI@rasken> Mark I do, I do, I do. And my meetings wouldn't stick. Ole-Erik Lørdag 6. October 2012 13.24.14 skrev Mark Fraser: > Upgraded to KDE 4.9.2 this week and I've just noticed that Korganiser no > longer has a week view or a day view. The icons I've had in the tool bar are > now greyed out and the only option seems to be month view. > > Is anyone else seeing this? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mdhirsch at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 17:51:36 2012 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:51:36 -0600 Subject: subversion and kwallet Message-ID: I use svn at work. According to http://lizards.opensuse.org/2010/01/15/using-kwallet-or-gnome-keyring-with-subversion/and also according to the comments in ~/.subversion/config, it should be possible for svn to store my passwords in kwallet. However, I can only get it to work with the gnome keyring. When I try to use kwallet it just sits there for a long time. If I'm patient enough I think it eventually times out, but I rarely have the patience to wait. I change which one I use by editing ~/.subversion/config and commenting/uncommenting the following lines: #password-stores = kwallet password-stores = gnome-keyring Does anyone have kwallet working? Do you know what you did to get it functional? Thanks, Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mdhirsch at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 18:04:07 2012 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:04:07 -0600 Subject: Upgraded to kmail2--mostly successful but that unpleasant In-Reply-To: <505EA690.80500@gmail.com> References: <50542C33.6080002@gmail.com> <505EA690.80500@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 12:05 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 23/09/2012 04:37, Michael Hirsch wrote: > >> >> On Sep 15, 2012 1:22 AM, "O. Sinclair" > > wrote: >> > >> > On 14/09/2012 08:15, Michael Hirsch wrote: >> >> >> >> So I finally upgraded kubuntu this week. I went from 11.04 to 11.10 >> to >> >> 12.04. In the middle I only booted long enough to start the >> upgrade--I >> >> didn't test to see if everything worked. >> >> >> >> It seems to have gone fairly smoothly, except for kmail. kmail >> wouldn't >> >> start, and would tell me to run the upgrader interactively, but when I >> >> ran it it would say it had already run. I >> >> deleted ~/.kde4/share/config/kmail-**migratorrc and it ran, >> supposedly >> >> successfully, but then kmail would not run. >> >> >> >> Following some internet sleuthing, I deleted ~/.kde/share/apps/akonadi >> >> and ~/.config/akonadi and my .kmail2rc and it finally ran, and even >> >> figured out some of my email accounts. But all my mail is missing! >> >> >> >> There is a File->Import Messages menu item that looks promising. >> Maybe >> >> I can import all my emails and then I will be able to read them. >> There >> >> is a likely sounding "Import KMail Maildirs and Folder Structure" item >> >> in a drop-down. Of course, it warns me not to import ~/Mail, which is >> >> where my mail is, but I think it is just confused. Why should it >> worry >> >> about infinitely looping on importing mail when kmail now stores my >> mail >> >> in a mysql database? >> >> >> >> There is a funny warning that I don't really understand: "Since it is >> >> possible to recreate the folder structure, the folders will be stored >> >> under: "KMail-Import" in your local folder." Should that be "Since it >> >> is impossible..."? I still don't understand, but oh well. I'll try >> it. >> >> >> >> So I click the button below "Please select the folder to import to" >> and >> >> choose to import to a subfolder in my local email. >> >> >> >> The next part is a disaster. I have hundreds of email folders, and >> the >> >> dialog makes me start over for each one. So I have to pick where to >> >> import to, then navigate to a folder and select it. Ultimately I find >> >> that I can multi-select all my mbox folders at once and do a big >> import. >> >> They get imported into folders named MBOX-oldname. Why they >> developer >> >> thinks I care that they used to be in mbox format I can't imagine. >> Now >> >> I have to go rename them all, but at least they loaded quickly. >> >> >> >> Now I still have lots of slightly newer maildir folders to import. It >> >> takes me a long time to realize that if never actually lets me select >> a >> >> maildir folder and say okay. If I select a folder the dialog enters >> >> that folder showing the sub-folders. Finally, I just give up and I >> >> click "okay" when I've entered the folder in question with nothing >> >> inside selected. Wow, it actually starts importing all my folders. >> >> >> >> Moronically, it is putting every folder into a KMail-import folder, >> but >> >> I guess I was warned. I still don't understand why it would do that. >> >> >> >> So, I guess the upshot is that it worked, mostly. I still get the >> >> heebie-jeebies at the thought of keeping all my mail in mysql instead >> of >> >> easily to read mbox and maildir folders, and I have all my folders >> named >> >> stupidly, but it looks like I haven't lost my mail. That's good. >> >> >> >> This has probably been the worst upgrade experience I've had in my >> >> almost 20 years of running Linux. I can't believe that anyone thought >> >> this was a good idea, or that it was ready to use. Since I got past >> the >> >> kmail crashing instantly it has only crashed twice--but I've only been >> >> running it a couple of hours. >> >> >> >> Let's hope that no more big changes are coming. >> >> >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> >> > Well, did you read the - by now old - kubuntu advise to not upgrade >> but do a "move/backup your email, set up new kmail and then import your >> stuff" advise? >> > >> >> Yes, I did see that advise, but I trends to like to sees things for >> myself. Maybe not the smartest approach, sometimes. >> >> > I tried "migrate" at least twice and then gave up. Moved my mails >> away, created fresh KMail and imported mails. Worked way better though I >> also had to move all folders from "KMail-imported" to where I wanted >> them in "Local Folders". >> > >> > And yes, though 4.9 is the best KMail2 this far it still unstable if >> you ask me. Accidentally moved a folder with subfolders to another >> folder (hate clickpads, give me touchpad with clickbuttons any day) and >> moving it back caused some sort of database total hickup. I eventually >> sorted it, though it took me literally hours and CPU nearly burnt out. >> > >> > But this is why my wife use Thunderbird and not KMail - she would >> just have sat there and "where the h..l did all the mails disappear to"? >> >> I think your wife I'd right. I'm going to switch to thunderbird as soon >> as I figure out how to import my maildir folders. >> >> Well, it was not meant as an advise to migrate to Thunderbird, not at > all. I consider KMail far better but at times wonder why the ... the > decision to migrate to Akonadi was made when the app clearly was not, and > in some ways still is not, ready for that move. > > The other part to complain about is that the whole chain of > Nepomuk-Akonadi-MySQL and the connection to physical mailfolders is, put > mildly, poorly documented so if (when) the shit hits the fan you are in the > dark. > > I use Thunderbird for mailing lists and some other stuff but I am > considering migrating almost all of that to KMail actually.. not the other > way around. > > Now what you can do is to create new subfolders in mbox format, move your > mails to these and then you are ready to import these to Thunderbird no > problems. > So does kmail still use filesystem files and folders? I thought everything is now in mysql. Is mysql only used to index the searching and the physical files are still on the HD? I would feel a lot better if that were true. 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Plaintext that I can open in Kate. ~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/ contains a collection of database files. ...Steve From valtermura at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 18:59:29 2012 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:59:29 +0200 Subject: Strange issue with "vituosobackend" + KMail Message-ID: <12273670.xC9Or4vSrx@valter-rete> Hi All after several months of use of Thunderbird, I "restart" to use KMail. It seems to work well, even if I'm experimenting a slow behaviour using one pop3 account, while my IMAP accounts are working quite well. Please note that I have a very old system: PIV 2.8 Mhz / 1 Ghz RAM / 512 MB video card, so I could safely say that the program is presently working quite better. I only have, hopefully, an issue with the "virtuosobackend", that it's not working, because Nepomuk cannot find its configuration, so it autodisable the semantic desktop and I cannot use the auto-completion and some other features. Any suggestions/hints, please? Thanks and regards, -- Valter *Open Source is better!* Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org KDE: www.kde.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 06:13:49 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 08:13:49 +0200 Subject: Strange issue with "vituosobackend" + KMail In-Reply-To: <12273670.xC9Or4vSrx@valter-rete> References: <12273670.xC9Or4vSrx@valter-rete> Message-ID: <5073C09D.7050504@gmail.com> On 08/10/2012 20:59, Valter Mura wrote: > Hi All > > after several months of use of Thunderbird, I "restart" to use KMail. > > It seems to work well, even if I'm experimenting a slow behaviour using one > pop3 account, while my IMAP accounts are working quite well. > > Please note that I have a very old system: PIV 2.8 Mhz / 1 Ghz RAM / 512 MB > video card, so I could safely say that the program is presently working quite > better. > > I only have, hopefully, an issue with the "virtuosobackend", that it's not > working, because Nepomuk cannot find its configuration, so it autodisable the > semantic desktop and I cannot use the auto-completion and some other > features. > > Any suggestions/hints, please? > > Thanks and regards, > This blog posting is very clear on this issue: http://blogs.kde.org/node/4503 title: Akonadi misconception #1: where is my data? there is also postings in kde forums on forum.kde.org regarding KDE PIM and several of these deal with location of email and how to find them in case of Akonadi crash/problems. From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 07:52:14 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:52:14 +1000 Subject: Strange issue with "vituosobackend" + KMail In-Reply-To: <5073C09D.7050504@gmail.com> References: <12273670.xC9Or4vSrx@valter-rete> <5073C09D.7050504@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9 October 2012 16:13, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 08/10/2012 20:59, Valter Mura wrote: >> >> I only have, hopefully, an issue with the "virtuosobackend", that it's not >> working, because Nepomuk cannot find its configuration, so it autodisable >> the >> semantic desktop and I cannot use the auto-completion and some other >> features. >> >> Any suggestions/hints, please? >> >> Thanks and regards, >> > This blog posting is very clear on this issue: > http://blogs.kde.org/node/4503 > title: Akonadi misconception #1: where is my data? I think you replied to the wrong email -- Lindsay From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 08:50:08 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 10:50:08 +0200 Subject: Strange issue with "vituosobackend" + KMail In-Reply-To: References: <12273670.xC9Or4vSrx@valter-rete> <5073C09D.7050504@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5073E540.4040500@gmail.com> On 09/10/2012 09:52, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On 9 October 2012 16:13, O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 08/10/2012 20:59, Valter Mura wrote: >>> >>> I only have, hopefully, an issue with the "virtuosobackend", that it's not >>> working, because Nepomuk cannot find its configuration, so it autodisable >>> the >>> semantic desktop and I cannot use the auto-completion and some other >>> features. >>> >>> Any suggestions/hints, please? >>> >>> Thanks and regards, >>> >> This blog posting is very clear on this issue: >> http://blogs.kde.org/node/4503 >> title: Akonadi misconception #1: where is my data? > > I think you replied to the wrong email > thanks, you are correct I usually move .kde/share/apps/nepomuk to some other folder (rename), then reboot and watch cpu go crazy for a while. Then it should come back. It does also depend on what version of KDE you are on, in 4.8.x autocompletion and lists do not work From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 08:52:32 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 10:52:32 +0200 Subject: Upgraded to kmail2--mostly successful but that unpleasant In-Reply-To: References: <50542C33.6080002@gmail.com> <505EA690.80500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5073E5D0.1080807@gmail.com> On 08/10/2012 20:04, Michael Hirsch wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 12:05 AM, O. Sinclair > wrote: > > On 23/09/2012 04:37, Michael Hirsch wrote: > > > On Sep 15, 2012 1:22 AM, "O. Sinclair" > >> wrote: > > > > On 14/09/2012 08:15, Michael Hirsch wrote: > >> > >> So I finally upgraded kubuntu this week. I went from 11.04 > to 11.10 to > >> 12.04. In the middle I only booted long enough to start > the upgrade--I > >> didn't test to see if everything worked. > >> > >> It seems to have gone fairly smoothly, except for kmail. > kmail wouldn't > >> start, and would tell me to run the upgrader interactively, > but when I > >> ran it it would say it had already run. I > >> deleted ~/.kde4/share/config/kmail-__migratorrc and it ran, > supposedly > >> successfully, but then kmail would not run. > >> > >> Following some internet sleuthing, I deleted > ~/.kde/share/apps/akonadi > >> and ~/.config/akonadi and my .kmail2rc and it finally ran, > and even > >> figured out some of my email accounts. But all my mail is > missing! > >> > >> There is a File->Import Messages menu item that looks > promising. Maybe > >> I can import all my emails and then I will be able to read > them. There > >> is a likely sounding "Import KMail Maildirs and Folder > Structure" item > >> in a drop-down. Of course, it warns me not to import > ~/Mail, which is > >> where my mail is, but I think it is just confused. Why > should it worry > >> about infinitely looping on importing mail when kmail now > stores my mail > >> in a mysql database? > >> > >> There is a funny warning that I don't really understand: > "Since it is > >> possible to recreate the folder structure, the folders will > be stored > >> under: "KMail-Import" in your local folder." Should that > be "Since it > >> is impossible..."? I still don't understand, but oh well. > I'll try it. > >> > >> So I click the button below "Please select the folder to > import to" and > >> choose to import to a subfolder in my local email. > >> > >> The next part is a disaster. I have hundreds of email > folders, and the > >> dialog makes me start over for each one. So I have to pick > where to > >> import to, then navigate to a folder and select it. > Ultimately I find > >> that I can multi-select all my mbox folders at once and do > a big import. > >> They get imported into folders named MBOX-oldname. Why > they developer > >> thinks I care that they used to be in mbox format I can't > imagine. Now > >> I have to go rename them all, but at least they loaded quickly. > >> > >> Now I still have lots of slightly newer maildir folders to > import. It > >> takes me a long time to realize that if never actually lets > me select a > >> maildir folder and say okay. If I select a folder the > dialog enters > >> that folder showing the sub-folders. Finally, I just give > up and I > >> click "okay" when I've entered the folder in question with > nothing > >> inside selected. Wow, it actually starts importing all my > folders. > >> > >> Moronically, it is putting every folder into a KMail-import > folder, but > >> I guess I was warned. I still don't understand why it > would do that. > >> > >> So, I guess the upshot is that it worked, mostly. I still > get the > >> heebie-jeebies at the thought of keeping all my mail in > mysql instead of > >> easily to read mbox and maildir folders, and I have all my > folders named > >> stupidly, but it looks like I haven't lost my mail. That's > good. > >> > >> This has probably been the worst upgrade experience I've > had in my > >> almost 20 years of running Linux. I can't believe that > anyone thought > >> this was a good idea, or that it was ready to use. Since I > got past the > >> kmail crashing instantly it has only crashed twice--but > I've only been > >> running it a couple of hours. > >> > >> Let's hope that no more big changes are coming. > >> > >> Michael > >> > >> > > Well, did you read the - by now old - kubuntu advise to not > upgrade > but do a "move/backup your email, set up new kmail and then > import your > stuff" advise? > > > > Yes, I did see that advise, but I trends to like to sees things for > myself. Maybe not the smartest approach, sometimes. > > > I tried "migrate" at least twice and then gave up. Moved my > mails > away, created fresh KMail and imported mails. Worked way better > though I > also had to move all folders from "KMail-imported" to where I wanted > them in "Local Folders". > > > > And yes, though 4.9 is the best KMail2 this far it still > unstable if > you ask me. Accidentally moved a folder with subfolders to another > folder (hate clickpads, give me touchpad with clickbuttons any > day) and > moving it back caused some sort of database total hickup. I > eventually > sorted it, though it took me literally hours and CPU nearly > burnt out. > > > > But this is why my wife use Thunderbird and not KMail - she > would > just have sat there and "where the h..l did all the mails > disappear to"? > > I think your wife I'd right. I'm going to switch to thunderbird > as soon > as I figure out how to import my maildir folders. > > Well, it was not meant as an advise to migrate to Thunderbird, not > at all. I consider KMail far better but at times wonder why the ... > the decision to migrate to Akonadi was made when the app clearly was > not, and in some ways still is not, ready for that move. > > The other part to complain about is that the whole chain of > Nepomuk-Akonadi-MySQL and the connection to physical mailfolders is, > put mildly, poorly documented so if (when) the shit hits the fan you > are in the dark. > > I use Thunderbird for mailing lists and some other stuff but I am > considering migrating almost all of that to KMail actually.. not the > other way around. > > Now what you can do is to create new subfolders in mbox format, move > your mails to these and then you are ready to import these to > Thunderbird no problems. > > > So does kmail still use filesystem files and folders? I thought > everything is now in mysql. Is mysql only used to index the searching > and the physical files are still on the HD? I would feel a lot better > if that were true. > This blog posting is very clear on this issue: http://blogs.kde.org/node/4503 title: Akonadi misconception #1: where is my data? there is also postings in kde forums on forum.kde.org regarding KDE PIM and several of these deal with location of email and how to find them in case of Akonadi crash/problems. From valtermura at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 17:42:23 2012 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 19:42:23 +0200 Subject: Strange issue with "vituosobackend" + KMail In-Reply-To: <5073E540.4040500@gmail.com> References: <12273670.xC9Or4vSrx@valter-rete> <5073E540.4040500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1801642.jHBdFJaGAR@valter-rete> In data martedì 9 ottobre 2012 10:50:08, O. Sinclair ha scritto: > >> On 08/10/2012 20:59, Valter Mura wrote: > >>> I only have, hopefully, an issue with the "virtuosobackend", that it's > >>> not > >>> working, because Nepomuk cannot find its configuration, so it > >>> autodisable > >>> the > >>> semantic desktop and I cannot use the auto-completion and some other > >>> features. > >>> > >>> Any suggestions/hints, please? > >>> > >>> Thanks and regards, > >> > >> This blog posting is very clear on this issue: > >> http://blogs.kde.org/node/4503 > >> title: Akonadi misconception #1: where is my data? > > > > I think you replied to the wrong email > > thanks, you are correct > > I usually move .kde/share/apps/nepomuk to some other folder (rename), > then reboot and watch cpu go crazy for a while. Then it should come > back. It does also depend on what version of KDE you are on, in 4.8.x > autocompletion and lists do not work Thanks, I will try and let you know. By the way, KDE 4.9.2 Ciao -- Valter *Open Source is better!* Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org KDE: www.kde.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org From valtermura at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 17:46:16 2012 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 19:46:16 +0200 Subject: Tried Unity for a bit In-Reply-To: <50674D64.10704@free.fr> References: <1394489.u6NPg2yu58@lindsay-kubuntu-12> <50674D64.10704@free.fr> Message-ID: <2293591.VofTGoNoLt@valter-rete> In data sabato 29 settembre 2012 21:35:00, Girard Henri ha scritto: I liked gnome3 over kde4 because it's quicker. I am surprised about nautilus, because it works fine here, much better than dolphin (maybe it's a matter of habit ?). Have you tried Krusader? Twin panel OMF faster than Dolphin and many features. Ciao -- Valter *Open Source is better!* Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org KDE: www.kde.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Errol From theuteck at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 18:58:13 2012 From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:58:13 -0500 Subject: black screen In-Reply-To: <50747213.7060106@tzora.co.il> References: <50747213.7060106@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: Sounds like plasma-desktop did not start. I think that is the proper spelling, not at my KDE desk right now, but you can manually start it. If you updated stuff recently try opening konsole and updating stuff again, perhaps an update did not go in or was missing. On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Errol Sapir wrote: > I restarted my computer and now have a black screen. No icons or any gui > signs. I am in Kubuntu as everything works i.e. I am not in a command line > mode. If I press alt/F2 I can open any program by typing its name. Once I am > in a program it works perfectly. I can browse, read my email and open links > and attachments. Everything is working. How do I get my graphic desktop > back? I tried the repair mode which didn't help. > Errol > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- no .sig found Please restart your browser. From valtermura at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 20:06:35 2012 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 22:06:35 +0200 Subject: Tried Unity for a bit In-Reply-To: <50746EB8.6080406@free.fr> References: <1394489.u6NPg2yu58@lindsay-kubuntu-12> <2293591.VofTGoNoLt@valter-rete> <50746EB8.6080406@free.fr> Message-ID: <12857266.rzYLORBnnL@valter-rete> In data martedì 9 ottobre 2012 20:36:40, Girard Henri ha scritto: Le 09/10/2012 19:46, Valter Mura a écrit : In data sabato 29 settembre 2012 21:35:00, Girard Henri ha scritto: I liked gnome3 over kde4 because it's quicker. I am surprised about nautilus, because it works fine here, much better than dolphin (maybe it's a matter of habit ?). Have you tried Krusader? Twin panel OMF faster than Dolphin and many features. Ciao -- Valter *Open Source is better!* Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org KDE: www.kde.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org Yes it's an excellent tool. I use it for over maybe 10 years. I think I am using beta 2? Yes, the new version is coming... Ciao -- Valter *Open Source is better!* Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org KDE: www.kde.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From myriam at kde.org Tue Oct 9 23:43:46 2012 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 01:43:46 +0200 Subject: black screen In-Reply-To: References: <50747213.7060106@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:58 PM, uteck wrote: > Sounds like plasma-desktop did not start. I think that is the proper > spelling, not at my KDE desk right now, but you can manually start it. > If you updated stuff recently try opening konsole and updating stuff > again, perhaps an update did not go in or was missing. > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Errol Sapir wrote: >> I restarted my computer and now have a black screen. No icons or any gui >> signs. I am in Kubuntu as everything works i.e. I am not in a command line >> mode. If I press alt/F2 I can open any program by typing its name. Once I am >> in a program it works perfectly. I can browse, read my email and open links >> and attachments. Everything is working. How do I get my graphic desktop >> back? I tried the repair mode which didn't help. As suggested by utek, the plasma desktop did not start for some reason. Try to launch it with krunner with the command 'plasma-desktop'. Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From errol at tzora.co.il Tue Oct 9 23:57:09 2012 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 01:57:09 +0200 Subject: black screen In-Reply-To: References: <50747213.7060106@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <5074B9D5.2030003@tzora.co.il> Thanks for the info utek and Miriam. I tried that but that doesn't seem to be the problem. The plasma-desktop goes black when logging in. Black (with nothing else visible on the screen) seem to have become the default colour, "covering" everything on the old desktop. I have gone into display and changed themes to no avail. As I said I can operate anything from "run", including settings, and basically any program I type in. They all come up as they did before this problem arose. On 10/10/2012 01:43 AM, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:58 PM, uteck wrote: >> Sounds like plasma-desktop did not start. I think that is the proper >> spelling, not at my KDE desk right now, but you can manually start it. >> If you updated stuff recently try opening konsole and updating stuff >> again, perhaps an update did not go in or was missing. >> >> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Errol Sapir wrote: >>> I restarted my computer and now have a black screen. No icons or any gui >>> signs. I am in Kubuntu as everything works i.e. I am not in a command line >>> mode. If I press alt/F2 I can open any program by typing its name. Once I am >>> in a program it works perfectly. I can browse, read my email and open links >>> and attachments. Everything is working. How do I get my graphic desktop >>> back? I tried the repair mode which didn't help. > > As suggested by utek, the plasma desktop did not start for some > reason. Try to launch it with krunner with the command > 'plasma-desktop'. > > > Regards, Myriam > From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed Oct 10 00:22:36 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:22:36 +1100 Subject: black screen In-Reply-To: <5074B9D5.2030003@tzora.co.il> References: <50747213.7060106@tzora.co.il> <5074B9D5.2030003@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <5074BFCC.9030509@iinet.net.au> On 10/10/12 10:57, Errol Sapir wrote: > Thanks for the info utek and Miriam. I tried that but that doesn't > seem to be the problem. The plasma-desktop goes black when logging in. > Black (with nothing else visible on the screen) seem to have become > the default colour, "covering" everything on the old desktop. I have > gone into display and changed themes to no avail. > As I said I can operate anything from "run", including settings, and > basically any program I type in. They all come up as they did before > this problem arose. [...........] When logging in, before typing in your password, click on the 'spanner' tool and select plasma desktop and then finish logging in. There is a quirk which fails to start the plasma desktop when you have upgraded KDE but after you do what I just suggested the problem disappears. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.2 & kernel 3.6.0 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From mdhirsch at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 14:59:29 2012 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:59:29 -0600 Subject: Upgraded to kmail2--mostly successful but that unpleasant In-Reply-To: <5073E5D0.1080807@gmail.com> References: <50542C33.6080002@gmail.com> <505EA690.80500@gmail.com> <5073E5D0.1080807@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 2:52 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 08/10/2012 20:04, Michael Hirsch wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 12:05 AM, O. Sinclair > > wrote: >> >> On 23/09/2012 04:37, Michael Hirsch wrote: >> >> >> On Sep 15, 2012 1:22 AM, "O. Sinclair" > >> >**> >> wrote: >> > >> > On 14/09/2012 08:15, Michael Hirsch wrote: >> >> >> >> So I finally upgraded kubuntu this week. I went from 11.04 >> to 11.10 to >> >> 12.04. In the middle I only booted long enough to start >> the upgrade--I >> >> didn't test to see if everything worked. >> >> >> >> It seems to have gone fairly smoothly, except for kmail. >> kmail wouldn't >> >> start, and would tell me to run the upgrader interactively, >> but when I >> >> ran it it would say it had already run. I >> >> deleted ~/.kde4/share/config/kmail-__**migratorrc and it >> ran, >> >> supposedly >> >> successfully, but then kmail would not run. >> >> >> >> Following some internet sleuthing, I deleted >> ~/.kde/share/apps/akonadi >> >> and ~/.config/akonadi and my .kmail2rc and it finally ran, >> and even >> >> figured out some of my email accounts. But all my mail is >> missing! >> >> >> >> There is a File->Import Messages menu item that looks >> promising. Maybe >> >> I can import all my emails and then I will be able to read >> them. There >> >> is a likely sounding "Import KMail Maildirs and Folder >> Structure" item >> >> in a drop-down. Of course, it warns me not to import >> ~/Mail, which is >> >> where my mail is, but I think it is just confused. Why >> should it worry >> >> about infinitely looping on importing mail when kmail now >> stores my mail >> >> in a mysql database? >> >> >> >> There is a funny warning that I don't really understand: >> "Since it is >> >> possible to recreate the folder structure, the folders will >> be stored >> >> under: "KMail-Import" in your local folder." Should that >> be "Since it >> >> is impossible..."? I still don't understand, but oh well. >> I'll try it. >> >> >> >> So I click the button below "Please select the folder to >> import to" and >> >> choose to import to a subfolder in my local email. >> >> >> >> The next part is a disaster. I have hundreds of email >> folders, and the >> >> dialog makes me start over for each one. So I have to pick >> where to >> >> import to, then navigate to a folder and select it. >> Ultimately I find >> >> that I can multi-select all my mbox folders at once and do >> a big import. >> >> They get imported into folders named MBOX-oldname. Why >> they developer >> >> thinks I care that they used to be in mbox format I can't >> imagine. Now >> >> I have to go rename them all, but at least they loaded >> quickly. >> >> >> >> Now I still have lots of slightly newer maildir folders to >> import. It >> >> takes me a long time to realize that if never actually lets >> me select a >> >> maildir folder and say okay. If I select a folder the >> dialog enters >> >> that folder showing the sub-folders. Finally, I just give >> up and I >> >> click "okay" when I've entered the folder in question with >> nothing >> >> inside selected. Wow, it actually starts importing all my >> folders. >> >> >> >> Moronically, it is putting every folder into a KMail-import >> folder, but >> >> I guess I was warned. I still don't understand why it >> would do that. >> >> >> >> So, I guess the upshot is that it worked, mostly. I still >> get the >> >> heebie-jeebies at the thought of keeping all my mail in >> mysql instead of >> >> easily to read mbox and maildir folders, and I have all my >> folders named >> >> stupidly, but it looks like I haven't lost my mail. That's >> good. >> >> >> >> This has probably been the worst upgrade experience I've >> had in my >> >> almost 20 years of running Linux. I can't believe that >> anyone thought >> >> this was a good idea, or that it was ready to use. Since I >> got past the >> >> kmail crashing instantly it has only crashed twice--but >> I've only been >> >> running it a couple of hours. >> >> >> >> Let's hope that no more big changes are coming. >> >> >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> >> > Well, did you read the - by now old - kubuntu advise to not >> upgrade >> but do a "move/backup your email, set up new kmail and then >> import your >> stuff" advise? >> > >> >> Yes, I did see that advise, but I trends to like to sees things >> for >> myself. Maybe not the smartest approach, sometimes. >> >> > I tried "migrate" at least twice and then gave up. Moved my >> mails >> away, created fresh KMail and imported mails. Worked way better >> though I >> also had to move all folders from "KMail-imported" to where I >> wanted >> them in "Local Folders". >> > >> > And yes, though 4.9 is the best KMail2 this far it still >> unstable if >> you ask me. Accidentally moved a folder with subfolders to another >> folder (hate clickpads, give me touchpad with clickbuttons any >> day) and >> moving it back caused some sort of database total hickup. I >> eventually >> sorted it, though it took me literally hours and CPU nearly >> burnt out. >> > >> > But this is why my wife use Thunderbird and not KMail - she >> would >> just have sat there and "where the h..l did all the mails >> disappear to"? >> >> I think your wife I'd right. I'm going to switch to thunderbird >> as soon >> as I figure out how to import my maildir folders. >> >> Well, it was not meant as an advise to migrate to Thunderbird, not >> at all. I consider KMail far better but at times wonder why the ... >> the decision to migrate to Akonadi was made when the app clearly was >> not, and in some ways still is not, ready for that move. >> >> The other part to complain about is that the whole chain of >> Nepomuk-Akonadi-MySQL and the connection to physical mailfolders is, >> put mildly, poorly documented so if (when) the shit hits the fan you >> are in the dark. >> >> I use Thunderbird for mailing lists and some other stuff but I am >> considering migrating almost all of that to KMail actually.. not the >> other way around. >> >> Now what you can do is to create new subfolders in mbox format, move >> your mails to these and then you are ready to import these to >> Thunderbird no problems. >> >> >> So does kmail still use filesystem files and folders? I thought >> everything is now in mysql. Is mysql only used to index the searching >> and the physical files are still on the HD? I would feel a lot better >> if that were true. >> >> > This blog posting is very clear on this issue: > http://blogs.kde.org/node/4503 > title: Akonadi misconception #1: where is my data? > Ah, thank you. That is very helpful. Maybe I'll give kmail another try. I should have known that it wouldn't put all my data in a DB, but I guess I felt that the KDE team has made so many bad decisions lately, I had lost a lot of my faith that they woldn't do something truly stupid like that. I'm glad to hear I was wrong. Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From errol at tzora.co.il Wed Oct 10 23:37:34 2012 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:37:34 +0200 Subject: black screen In-Reply-To: <5074BFCC.9030509@iinet.net.au> References: <50747213.7060106@tzora.co.il> <5074B9D5.2030003@tzora.co.il> <5074BFCC.9030509@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <507606BE.4060401@tzora.co.il> Tried that to no avail. I think the problem is one of the settings of the desktop because if I go into "repair" mode and then go to command line and type startx, the gui desktop comes up. It isn't "my" desktop, just an empty plain gui KDE desktop. When login in "normally" the desktop starts to appear after typing my password and then goes black. It is though a black cover has been formed over the desktop because all the programs work with ALT/F2 and the typing the name of the program. All this time the mouse curser is visible and is movable but clicking anywhere on the screen does nothing until I use ALT/F2 and then I can type in the name of any program and click on the list that appears to operate the program. The mouse and keyboard work perfectly on any program opened. There is also no panel visible at any time and if I minimize a program it disappears "under" the black screen. Errol On 10/10/2012 02:22 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 10/10/12 10:57, Errol Sapir wrote: >> Thanks for the info utek and Miriam. I tried that but that doesn't >> seem to be the problem. The plasma-desktop goes black when logging in. >> Black (with nothing else visible on the screen) seem to have become >> the default colour, "covering" everything on the old desktop. I have >> gone into display and changed themes to no avail. >> As I said I can operate anything from "run", including settings, and >> basically any program I type in. They all come up as they did before >> this problem arose. > [...........] > > When logging in, before typing in your password, click on the > 'spanner' tool and select plasma desktop and then finish logging in. > There is a quirk which fails to start the plasma desktop when you have > upgraded KDE but after you do what I just suggested the problem disappears. > > BC > From clay at claydoh.com Thu Oct 11 03:16:54 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 03:16:54 +0000 Subject: black screen Message-ID: <20121011031654.4CA457CA40@vzwemconn25.vzw-prod.oz.com> The black screen is because plasma-desktop, which is what powers the panel, menus, background, etc had crashed or didn't start. Does running the command "plasma-desktop" from the alt-f2 bring every thing back? Sent from my Droid Charge on Verizon 4G LTE ------Original Message------ From: Errol Sapir To: "Kubuntu user technical support" Date: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:37:34 AM GMT+0200 Subject: Re: black screen Tried that to no avail. I think the problem is one of the settings of the desktop because if I go into "repair" mode and then go to command line and type startx, the gui desktop comes up. It isn't "my" desktop, just an empty plain gui KDE desktop. When login in "normally" the desktop starts to appear after typing my password and then goes black. It is though a black cover has been formed over the desktop because all the programs work with ALT/F2 and the typing the name of the program. All this time the mouse curser is visible and is movable but clicking anywhere on the screen does nothing until I use ALT/F2 and then I can type in the name of any program and click on the list that appears to operate the program. The mouse and keyboard work perfectly on any program opened. There is also no panel visible at any time and if I minimize a program it disappears "under" the black screen. Errol On 10/10/2012 02:22 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 10/10/12 10:57, Errol Sapir wrote: >> Thanks for the info utek and Miriam. I tried that but that doesn't >> seem to be the problem. The plasma-desktop goes black when logging in. >> Black (with nothing else visible on the screen) seem to have become >> the default colour, "covering" everything on the old desktop. I have >> gone into display and changed themes to no avail. >> As I said I can operate anything from "run", including settings, and >> basically any program I type in. They all come up as they did before >> this problem arose. > [...........] > > When logging in, before typing in your password, click on the > 'spanner' tool and select plasma desktop and then finish logging in. > There is a quirk which fails to start the plasma desktop when you have > upgraded KDE but after you do what I just suggested the problem disappears. > > BC > -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Thu Oct 11 11:03:07 2012 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis Linux) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:03:07 +0200 Subject: Linux kernel update failure Message-ID: Everytime a updat Lubuntu a get arrors, the kernel update from 3.2.0.30.32 to 3.2.0.31.34 failures.Does anyone know how to fix this? Regards Dennis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu Oct 11 14:44:47 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 01:44:47 +1100 Subject: black screen In-Reply-To: <507606BE.4060401@tzora.co.il> References: <50747213.7060106@tzora.co.il> <5074B9D5.2030003@tzora.co.il> <5074BFCC.9030509@iinet.net.au> <507606BE.4060401@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <5076DB5F.3090708@iinet.net.au> On 11/10/12 10:37, Errol Sapir wrote: > Tried that to no avail. I think the problem is one of the settings of > the desktop because if I go into "repair" mode and then go to command > line and type startx, the gui desktop comes up. It isn't "my" desktop, > just an empty plain gui KDE desktop. When login in "normally" the > desktop starts to appear after typing my password and then goes black. > It is though a black cover has been formed over the desktop because > all the programs work with ALT/F2 and the typing the name of the > program. All this time the mouse curser is visible and is movable but > clicking anywhere on the screen does nothing until I use ALT/F2 and > then I can type in the name of any program and click on the list that > appears to operate the program. The mouse and keyboard work perfectly > on any program opened. > There is also no panel visible at any time and if I minimize a program > it disappears "under" the black screen. > Errol > > On 10/10/2012 02:22 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 10/10/12 10:57, Errol Sapir wrote: >>> Thanks for the info utek and Miriam. I tried that but that doesn't >>> seem to be the problem. The plasma-desktop goes black when logging in. >>> Black (with nothing else visible on the screen) seem to have become >>> the default colour, "covering" everything on the old desktop. I have >>> gone into display and changed themes to no avail. >>> As I said I can operate anything from "run", including settings, and >>> basically any program I type in. They all come up as they did before >>> this problem arose. >> [...........] >> >> When logging in, before typing in your password, click on the >> 'spanner' tool and select plasma desktop and then finish logging in. >> There is a quirk which fails to start the plasma desktop when you have >> upgraded KDE but after you do what I just suggested the problem >> disappears. >> >> BC It would be very nice if you did not top-post..... Then I suggest that you rename /.kde4 directory in your home to, say, /.kde4-old so that it is recreated when you reboot and login again. BTW, which video card are you using and do you have the latest driver for it installed (and I don't mean the nouveau, default, driver if you have a nVidia card)? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.2 & kernel 3.6.1.1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From basroufs at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 14:45:42 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs -En.) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:45:42 +0200 Subject: KAdressbook 4.9.2 does not import .vcf files. Message-ID: <19568749.Ph1ZvynZPN@viaconsensus-travel> Hello Everybody At present I am working with Kubuntu 12.04 along with KDE 4.9.2. Today I fruitlessly attempted to import a few .vcf files in KAdressbook. When doing so via Dolphin, KAdressbook starts, however simply finishes without doing anything. When using the import function via KAddressbook/Kontact, simply nothing happens. As far as I remember, I did manage to import .vcf files in several previous versions of KDE and Kubuntu - without noticeble problems. Any thoughts, ideas? 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Regards Dennis -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From errol at tzora.co.il Thu Oct 11 16:01:55 2012 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:01:55 +0200 Subject: black screen In-Reply-To: <5076DB5F.3090708@iinet.net.au> References: <50747213.7060106@tzora.co.il> <5074B9D5.2030003@tzora.co.il> <5074BFCC.9030509@iinet.net.au> <507606BE.4060401@tzora.co.il> <5076DB5F.3090708@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <5076ED73.50005@tzora.co.il> On 10/11/2012 04:44 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 11/10/12 10:37, Errol Sapir wrote: >> Tried that to no avail. I think the problem is one of the settings of >> the desktop because if I go into "repair" mode and then go to command >> line and type startx, the gui desktop comes up. It isn't "my" desktop, >> just an empty plain gui KDE desktop. When login in "normally" the >> desktop starts to appear after typing my password and then goes black. >> It is though a black cover has been formed over the desktop because >> all the programs work with ALT/F2 and the typing the name of the >> program. All this time the mouse curser is visible and is movable but >> clicking anywhere on the screen does nothing until I use ALT/F2 and >> then I can type in the name of any program and click on the list that >> appears to operate the program. The mouse and keyboard work perfectly >> on any program opened. >> There is also no panel visible at any time and if I minimize a program >> it disappears "under" the black screen. >> Errol >> >> On 10/10/2012 02:22 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> On 10/10/12 10:57, Errol Sapir wrote: >>>> Thanks for the info utek and Miriam. I tried that but that doesn't >>>> seem to be the problem. The plasma-desktop goes black when logging in. >>>> Black (with nothing else visible on the screen) seem to have become >>>> the default colour, "covering" everything on the old desktop. I have >>>> gone into display and changed themes to no avail. >>>> As I said I can operate anything from "run", including settings, and >>>> basically any program I type in. They all come up as they did before >>>> this problem arose. >>> [...........] >>> >>> When logging in, before typing in your password, click on the >>> 'spanner' tool and select plasma desktop and then finish logging in. >>> There is a quirk which fails to start the plasma desktop when you have >>> upgraded KDE but after you do what I just suggested the problem >>> disappears. >>> >>> BC > > It would be very nice if you did not top-post..... > > Then I suggest that you rename /.kde4 directory in your home to, say, > /.kde4-old so that it is recreated when you reboot and login again. > > BTW, which video card are you using and do you have the latest driver > for it installed (and I don't mean the nouveau, default, driver if you > have a nVidia card)? > > BC > Sorry about the top posting. I never remember which forums want top and which want bottom. I have an external card and I don't know if the drivers are the latest. I'll look into it. I'll also try the /.KDE-old and report back. Thanks for the advice. Errol From errol at tzora.co.il Fri Oct 12 11:57:51 2012 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:57:51 +0200 Subject: black screen(solved) In-Reply-To: <5076ED73.50005@tzora.co.il> References: <50747213.7060106@tzora.co.il> <5074B9D5.2030003@tzora.co.il> <5074BFCC.9030509@iinet.net.au> <507606BE.4060401@tzora.co.il> <5076DB5F.3090708@iinet.net.au> <5076ED73.50005@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <507805BF.4050701@tzora.co.il> On 10/11/2012 06:01 PM, Errol Sapir wrote: > > > On 10/11/2012 04:44 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 11/10/12 10:37, Errol Sapir wrote: >>> Tried that to no avail. I think the problem is one of the settings of >>> the desktop because if I go into "repair" mode and then go to command >>> line and type startx, the gui desktop comes up. It isn't "my" desktop, >>> just an empty plain gui KDE desktop. When login in "normally" the >>> desktop starts to appear after typing my password and then goes black. >>> It is though a black cover has been formed over the desktop because >>> all the programs work with ALT/F2 and the typing the name of the >>> program. All this time the mouse curser is visible and is movable but >>> clicking anywhere on the screen does nothing until I use ALT/F2 and >>> then I can type in the name of any program and click on the list that >>> appears to operate the program. The mouse and keyboard work perfectly >>> on any program opened. >>> There is also no panel visible at any time and if I minimize a program >>> it disappears "under" the black screen. >>> Errol >>> >>> On 10/10/2012 02:22 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >>>> On 10/10/12 10:57, Errol Sapir wrote: >>>>> Thanks for the info utek and Miriam. I tried that but that doesn't >>>>> seem to be the problem. The plasma-desktop goes black when logging in. >>>>> Black (with nothing else visible on the screen) seem to have become >>>>> the default colour, "covering" everything on the old desktop. I have >>>>> gone into display and changed themes to no avail. >>>>> As I said I can operate anything from "run", including settings, and >>>>> basically any program I type in. They all come up as they did before >>>>> this problem arose. >>>> [...........] >>>> >>>> When logging in, before typing in your password, click on the >>>> 'spanner' tool and select plasma desktop and then finish logging in. >>>> There is a quirk which fails to start the plasma desktop when you have >>>> upgraded KDE but after you do what I just suggested the problem >>>> disappears. >>>> >>>> BC >> >> It would be very nice if you did not top-post..... >> >> Then I suggest that you rename /.kde4 directory in your home to, say, >> /.kde4-old so that it is recreated when you reboot and login again. >> >> BTW, which video card are you using and do you have the latest driver >> for it installed (and I don't mean the nouveau, default, driver if you >> have a nVidia card)? >> >> BC >> > > Sorry about the top posting. I never remember which forums want top and > which want bottom. > I have an external card and I don't know if the drivers are the latest. > I'll look into it. I'll also try the /.KDE-old and report back. Thanks > for the advice. > Errol > Basil Thanks! Your suggestion to build a new KDE directory solved the problem. The gui is working fine, a few tweaks to get my desktop back to what it was and I'm away. Thanks all who gave advice as well. Errol From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri Oct 12 12:53:28 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:53:28 +1100 Subject: black screen(solved) In-Reply-To: <507805BF.4050701@tzora.co.il> References: <50747213.7060106@tzora.co.il> <5074B9D5.2030003@tzora.co.il> <5074BFCC.9030509@iinet.net.au> <507606BE.4060401@tzora.co.il> <5076DB5F.3090708@iinet.net.au> <5076ED73.50005@tzora.co.il> <507805BF.4050701@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <507812C8.1010906@iinet.net.au> On 12/10/12 22:57, Errol Sapir wrote: > > > On 10/11/2012 06:01 PM, Errol Sapir wrote: >> >> >> On 10/11/2012 04:44 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: [.........] >>> >>> It would be very nice if you did not top-post..... >>> >>> Then I suggest that you rename /.kde4 directory in your home to, say, >>> /.kde4-old so that it is recreated when you reboot and login again. >>> >>> BTW, which video card are you using and do you have the latest driver >>> for it installed (and I don't mean the nouveau, default, driver if you >>> have a nVidia card)? >>> >>> BC >>> >> >> Sorry about the top posting. I never remember which forums want top and >> which want bottom. >> I have an external card and I don't know if the drivers are the latest. >> I'll look into it. I'll also try the /.KDE-old and report back. Thanks >> for the advice. >> Errol >> > Basil Thanks! Your suggestion to build a new KDE directory solved the > problem. The gui is working fine, a few tweaks to get my desktop back > to what it was and I'm away. > Thanks all who gave advice as well. > Errol Great! All now working (apart from the obvious tweaks following the creation of the new directory). BTW, another tip: when upgrading to a new version of a distro, do not use the old /home - it will contain baggage which you do not want in the new install. Make a backup of /home to another HD and then only copy across to the new install those directories which you cannot do without - eg, Documents, Pictures, Video, whatever. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.2 & kernel 3.6.1.2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 14:21:41 2012 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:21:41 -0600 Subject: some file dialogs never display anything Message-ID: <50782775.1030808@gmail.com> Using 64-bit Kubuntu precise with just the stock repositories. A few programs have "open file" or "open directory" dialogs that never populate the dialog, and the only thing I can do is to kill the program in question and figure out some way to avoid opening that dialog. Most programs (at least, the ones I use) work fine. Example problemmatic programs: scribus, digikam (the "import" dialogs). Any clues as to what the problem could be? 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So I got with the repositories, and downloaded some alternatives, i.e., esmtp, msmtp, and exim4. Things are still confusing, and exim4 seems to have taken over from sendmail. Looking into openssl/tls doesn't seem to help either. I used to have an email package that did this by just setting up some variables with my name, passwd, "smtp.comcast.net", and a port number. Can anyone tell me how to get all this working with the least fuss and bother? Thanks. Bill From blchupin at iinet.net.au Tue Oct 16 05:42:30 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:42:30 +1100 Subject: email help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <507CF3C6.2050305@iinet.net.au> On 16/10/12 15:50, Bill vance wrote: > Howdy folks; > > I've just upgraded to Kubuntu 12.04, and need a little setup help. > > My ISP, (Comcast), requires smtp authentication. Setting up sendmail seemed > pretty confusing. So I got with the repositories, and downloaded some > alternatives, i.e., esmtp, msmtp, and exim4. Things are still confusing, and > exim4 seems to have taken over from sendmail. Looking into openssl/tls > doesn't seem to help either. > > I used to have an email package that did this by just setting up some variables > with my name, passwd, "smtp.comcast.net", and a port number. > > Can anyone tell me how to get all this working with the least fuss and bother? > > Thanks. > > Bill > The first and obvious question is: which mail client do you intend to use - Thunderbird or something else? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.2 & kernel 3.6.2.2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From faptagon at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 06:56:07 2012 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:56:07 -0700 Subject: email help In-Reply-To: <507CF3C6.2050305@iinet.net.au> References: <507CF3C6.2050305@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On 10/15/12, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 16/10/12 15:50, Bill vance wrote: >> Howdy folks; >> >> I've just upgraded to Kubuntu 12.04, and need a little setup help. >> >> My ISP, (Comcast), requires smtp authentication. Setting up sendmail >> seemed >> pretty confusing. So I got with the repositories, and downloaded some >> alternatives, i.e., esmtp, msmtp, and exim4. Things are still confusing, >> and >> exim4 seems to have taken over from sendmail. Looking into openssl/tls >> doesn't seem to help either. >> >> I used to have an email package that did this by just setting up some >> variables >> with my name, passwd, "smtp.comcast.net", and a port number. >> >> Can anyone tell me how to get all this working with the least fuss and >> bother? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Bill >> > > The first and obvious question is: which mail client do you intend to > use - Thunderbird or something else? > > BC My email prog of choice is Alpine. Bill From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 10:14:17 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:14:17 +1000 Subject: email help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96458301.WgRhtn6PcU@lindsay-quantal> On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:50:28 PM Bill vance wrote: > I've just upgraded to Kubuntu 12.04, and need a little setup help. > > My ISP, (Comcast), requires smtp authentication. Setting up sendmail seemed > pretty confusing. So I got with the repositories, and downloaded some > alternatives, i.e., esmtp, msmtp, and exim4. Things are still confusing, > and exim4 seems to have taken over from sendmail. Looking into openssl/tls > doesn't seem to help either. What are you using for an email client? -- Lindsay Mathieson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Tue Oct 16 14:19:16 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 01:19:16 +1100 Subject: email help In-Reply-To: References: <507CF3C6.2050305@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <507D6CE4.5080307@iinet.net.au> On 16/10/12 17:56, Bill vance wrote: > On 10/15/12, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 16/10/12 15:50, Bill vance wrote: >>> Howdy folks; >>> >>> I've just upgraded to Kubuntu 12.04, and need a little setup help. >>> >>> My ISP, (Comcast), requires smtp authentication. Setting up sendmail >>> seemed >>> pretty confusing. So I got with the repositories, and downloaded some >>> alternatives, i.e., esmtp, msmtp, and exim4. Things are still confusing, >>> and >>> exim4 seems to have taken over from sendmail. Looking into openssl/tls >>> doesn't seem to help either. >>> >>> I used to have an email package that did this by just setting up some >>> variables >>> with my name, passwd, "smtp.comcast.net", and a port number. >>> >>> Can anyone tell me how to get all this working with the least fuss and >>> bother? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Bill >>> >> The first and obvious question is: which mail client do you intend to >> use - Thunderbird or something else? >> >> BC > > My email prog of choice is Alpine. I've never heard of it until now, so good luck :-) . BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.2 & kernel 3.6.2.2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From faptagon at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 18:30:35 2012 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:30:35 -0700 Subject: email help In-Reply-To: <507D6CE4.5080307@iinet.net.au> References: <507CF3C6.2050305@iinet.net.au> <507D6CE4.5080307@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Many moons ago, there was Elm, (Electronic Mailer), which has been dying a long slow death, though some have been trying to resurrect it. The University of Washington came out with it's own version, Pine, (now Alpine). Then there was Mutt, and a bunch of wannabwees. These all operate in the console window, not in a GUI. Both Alpine and Mutt are in the repositories, should you want to look them over. Mutt is buggy as all getout, but Alpine is excellent. This has nothing to do with properly setting up ssl/tls/smtp auth, which is what I need help with. *sigh* Bill On 10/16/12, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 16/10/12 17:56, Bill vance wrote: >> On 10/15/12, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> On 16/10/12 15:50, Bill vance wrote: >>>> Howdy folks; >>>> >>>> I've just upgraded to Kubuntu 12.04, and need a little setup help. >>>> >>>> My ISP, (Comcast), requires smtp authentication. Setting up sendmail >>>> seemed >>>> pretty confusing. So I got with the repositories, and downloaded some >>>> alternatives, i.e., esmtp, msmtp, and exim4. Things are still >>>> confusing, >>>> and >>>> exim4 seems to have taken over from sendmail. Looking into openssl/tls >>>> doesn't seem to help either. >>>> >>>> I used to have an email package that did this by just setting up some >>>> variables >>>> with my name, passwd, "smtp.comcast.net", and a port number. >>>> >>>> Can anyone tell me how to get all this working with the least fuss and >>>> bother? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>> The first and obvious question is: which mail client do you intend to >>> use - Thunderbird or something else? >>> >>> BC >> >> My email prog of choice is Alpine. > > I've never heard of it until now, so good luck :-) . > > BC > > -- > Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.2 & kernel 3.6.2.2 on a system with- > AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor > 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM > Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Oct 16 21:11:53 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:11:53 -0400 Subject: email help In-Reply-To: References: <507D6CE4.5080307@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <2186785.J49kANG54c@linux1> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:30:35 AM Bill vance wrote: > Many moons ago, there was Elm, (Electronic Mailer), which has been dying a > long slow death, though some have been trying to resurrect it. The > University of > Washington came out with it's own version, Pine, (now Alpine). Then there > was Mutt, and a bunch of wannabwees. These all operate in the console > window, not in a GUI. Both Alpine and Mutt are in the repositories, should > you want to look them over. Mutt is buggy as all getout, but Alpine is > excellent. > > This has nothing to do with properly setting up ssl/tls/smtp auth, which is > what I need help with. sigh > > Bill So you are looking for something to use as a transport program? Postfix?? That's what I use. Been using it for years. "The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the right time, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Tue Oct 16 21:25:53 2012 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis Linux) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:25:53 +0200 Subject: Which s-video card Message-ID: Hello, I use my 2.4 GHz Compaq pc with Lubuntu 12.04 and a ati video card and tv-out to my tv. The problem with Linux is that s-video doesn't work with ati radeon because there are no good drivers. It's a shame! I must buy another videocard with tv out or going back to Windows. There it was no problem to get 100hz from my tv with s-video. So if anyone can tell me how it can work with another videocard with s-video? I sell my ati to a Windows user who can use it with no trouble..... Dennis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From cp at ccil.org Wed Oct 17 01:02:14 2012 From: cp at ccil.org (Chuck Peters) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:02:14 -0400 Subject: email help In-Reply-To: References: <507CF3C6.2050305@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Bill vance wrote: > > My email prog of choice is Alpine. http://support.cs.utah.edu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=49&Itemid=80 http://www.washington.edu/alpine/tech-notes/config-notes.html Short answer, close alpine and edit your smtp-server in .pinerc file... The example at utah.edu is: smtp-server=smtps.cs.utah.edu:587/tls/user=username/novalidate-cert If you want to send the mail to your local Linux machine on the LAN, or the same machine postfix is one server commonly used. I use exim4, and instructions on setting it up are at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Exim4 https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/hppa/mail-setup.html http://pkg-exim4.alioth.debian.org/README/README.Debian.html#id280581 http://pkg-exim4.alioth.debian.org/README/README.Debian.html#smtp-auth Chuck From theuteck at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 02:18:06 2012 From: theuteck at gmail.com (bil) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:18:06 -0500 Subject: Which s-video card Message-ID: Did you use the ATI driver, or the open source driver? I had no problem with an nvidia card and driver with s-video, now i am using composite cables without much problem. Sent from my ASUS Pad Dennis Linux wrote: >-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Evans said the following at 10/12/2012 08:21 AM : > > Using 64-bit Kubuntu precise with just the stock repositories. > > > > A few programs have "open file" or "open directory" dialogs that never > > populate the dialog, and the only thing I can do is to kill the program > in > > question and figure out some way to avoid opening that dialog. > > > > Most programs (at least, the ones I use) work fine. > > > > Example problemmatic programs: scribus, digikam (the "import" dialogs). > > > > Any clues as to what the problem could be? > > I didn't see any responses. Doesn't anyone have any ideas? > > One additional piece of information: this did not happen before I upgraded > to > precise. > > Doc > > -- > Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Evans said the following at 10/12/2012 08:21 AM : >> > Using 64-bit Kubuntu precise with just the stock repositories. >> > >> > A few programs have "open file" or "open directory" dialogs that never >> > populate the dialog, and the only thing I can do is to kill the program >> in >> > question and figure out some way to avoid opening that dialog. >> > >> > Most programs (at least, the ones I use) work fine. >> > >> > Example problemmatic programs: scribus, digikam (the "import" dialogs). >> > >> > Any clues as to what the problem could be? >> >> I didn't see any responses. Doesn't anyone have any ideas? >> >> One additional piece of information: this did not happen before I >> upgraded to >> precise. >> >> Doc >> > I have never had this happen to me either. Can you give some specific examples, the app and the menu item? Then maybe a person who uses the same application will relate to your problem and answer. > >> -- >> Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmtsales at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 18:57:47 2012 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:57:47 -0300 Subject: some file dialogs never display anything In-Reply-To: <507EB195.4030007@gmail.com> References: <50782775.1030808@gmail.com> <507EB195.4030007@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1674035.kD9B8fEbY6@home-01> Em quarta-feira, 17 de outubro de 2012, às 07:24:37, D. R. Evans escreveu: > D. R. Evans said the following at 10/12/2012 08:21 AM : > > Using 64-bit Kubuntu precise with just the stock repositories. > > > > A few programs have "open file" or "open directory" dialogs that never > > populate the dialog, and the only thing I can do is to kill the program in > > question and figure out some way to avoid opening that dialog. > > > > Most programs (at least, the ones I use) work fine. > > > > Example problemmatic programs: scribus, digikam (the "import" dialogs). > > > > Any clues as to what the problem could be? > > I didn't see any responses. Doesn't anyone have any ideas? > > One additional piece of information: this did not happen before I upgraded > to precise. This happened to me a few weeks or months ago, but not anymore. I can't really remember what was causing the problem, but I think it had something to do with the directory the dialog was trying to show the contents of when it was opened, which was the last folder I had used from that application. Do you know what directory the dialog is trying to show? Try to rename that directory so that the dialog opens in your home directory. Sorry for being so vague, but I really don't remember how the problem was solved in my computer. []'s Marcelo From valtermura at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 22:33:55 2012 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 00:33:55 +0200 Subject: Kmail 4.9.2 do not autocomplete addresses Message-ID: <1384941.MVyDkelZeL@valter-rete> Hi All even if somebody stated that with version 4.9.2 the address autocompletion should work, it is not working in my configuration: Kmail 4.9.2 Kde 4.9.2 Addressbook: Google addressbook working with the Akonadi plugin Any hint? TIA, regards, -- Valter *Open Source is better!* Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org KDE: www.kde.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 02:43:23 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:43:23 +1000 Subject: some file dialogs never display anything In-Reply-To: <50782775.1030808@gmail.com> References: <50782775.1030808@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 13 October 2012 00:21, D. R. Evans wrote: > Using 64-bit Kubuntu precise with just the stock repositories. > > A few programs have "open file" or "open directory" dialogs that never > populate the dialog, and the only thing I can do is to kill the program in > question and figure out some way to avoid opening that dialog. Have you tried hitting "F5" to force a dir refresh the dialog? I've noticed that sometimes the dir listings appear to be cached and need to be refreshed. -- Lindsay From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 09:15:24 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:15:24 +0200 Subject: Kmail 4.9.2 do not autocomplete addresses In-Reply-To: <1384941.MVyDkelZeL@valter-rete> References: <1384941.MVyDkelZeL@valter-rete> Message-ID: <507FC8AC.3000401@gmail.com> On 18/10/2012 00:33, Valter Mura wrote: > Hi All > > even if somebody stated that with version 4.9.2 the address autocompletion > should work, it is not working in my configuration: > > Kmail 4.9.2 > Kde 4.9.2 > > Addressbook: Google addressbook working with the Akonadi plugin > > Any hint? > > TIA, regards, > this is what I did: Quit KMail first of all. Then I renamed the folder /HOME/user/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk It can also help to edit /HOME/.kde/share/config/akonadi_nepomuk_feederrc I edited these lines to these values: InitialIndexingComplete=false and DisableIdleDetection=true the first one seems to advice the system indexing is done (it was set to true) and the second one to use CPU regardless of state (it was set to false). Saved the file and did from konsole akonadictl stop, akondictl start. then have patience while virtuoso-t and friends chew up your CPU, depending on number of contacts and mails it can take quite some time. when it calms down you should have autocompletion of addresses and searching of mail working (well the parts of searching that works at all that is). From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 14:22:19 2012 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:22:19 -0600 Subject: some file dialogs never display anything In-Reply-To: <50782775.1030808@gmail.com> References: <50782775.1030808@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5080109B.5070509@gmail.com> D. R. Evans said the following at 10/12/2012 08:21 AM : > Using 64-bit Kubuntu precise with just the stock repositories. > > A few programs have "open file" or "open directory" dialogs that never > populate the dialog, and the only thing I can do is to kill the program in > question and figure out some way to avoid opening that dialog. > > Most programs (at least, the ones I use) work fine. > > Example problemmatic programs: scribus, digikam (the "import" dialogs). > > Any clues as to what the problem could be? I was just going to respond to the requests for more information and, of course, discovered that even though I haven't rebooted -- but I have applied two sets of Kubuntu updates -- the problem, which persisted for a week before I asked here for help, has now gone away. I hate it when that happens. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From faptagon at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 16:33:09 2012 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:33:09 -0700 Subject: Apper problem Message-ID: Howdy folks; The notifier button in the panel told me I had a bunch of updates waiting, so I clicked it, and the apper window opened. I looked them over, clicked on, "apply", and it down loaded them. When it was done, it locked itself into this mode that required me to check for new updates, not allowing or doing anything else. So I clicked on the check button, and it displayed a list of software, and said something to the effect that it couldn't deal with setting them up, and completely locked up. Now it won't do anything at all, and won't allow anything else, (apt-get et al), to do anything either. So now I apparently have a bunch of updates frozen up somewhere on my machine, and have no idea what to do about them, or the latchup. Anyone got a clue? Bill From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 16:40:28 2012 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:40:28 +0100 Subject: Apper problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3494313.f1hQhiQAWa@rachael> On Thursday 18 Oct 2012 09:33:09 Bill vance wrote: > Howdy folks; > > The notifier button in the panel told me I had a bunch of updates waiting, > so I clicked it, and the apper window opened. I looked them over, clicked > on, "apply", and it down loaded them. When it was done, it locked itself > into this mode that required me to check for new updates, not allowing or > doing anything else. So I clicked on the check button, and it displayed > a list of software, and said something to the effect that it couldn't deal > with setting them up, and completely locked up. I'm wondering if that is the same thing I've been experiencing with Flash on all the computers here? It installed all the updates, but then I saw a light bulb icon in the system tray. I clicked on it and it said something about needing to update Flash which then opened an empty Konsole window. > Now it won't do anything at all, and won't allow anything else, (apt-get > et al), to do anything either. > > So now I apparently have a bunch of updates frozen up somewhere on my > machine, and have no idea what to do about them, or the latchup. > > Anyone got a clue? What happens if you open up Konsole and do: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade From faptagon at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 18:49:40 2012 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:49:40 -0700 Subject: Apper problem In-Reply-To: <3494313.f1hQhiQAWa@rachael> References: <3494313.f1hQhiQAWa@rachael> Message-ID: On 10/18/12, Mark Fraser wrote: > On Thursday 18 Oct 2012 09:33:09 Bill vance wrote: >> Howdy folks; >> >> The notifier button in the panel told me I had a bunch of updates >> waiting, >> so I clicked it, and the apper window opened. I looked them over, >> clicked >> on, "apply", and it down loaded them. When it was done, it locked itself >> into this mode that required me to check for new updates, not allowing or >> doing anything else. So I clicked on the check button, and it displayed >> a list of software, and said something to the effect that it couldn't >> deal >> with setting them up, and completely locked up. > > I'm wondering if that is the same thing I've been experiencing with Flash on > > all the computers here? It installed all the updates, but then I saw a light > > bulb icon in the system tray. I clicked on it and it said something about > needing to update Flash which then opened an empty Konsole window. Doesn't sound like it. >> Now it won't do anything at all, and won't allow anything else, (apt-get >> et al), to do anything either. >> >> So now I apparently have a bunch of updates frozen up somewhere on my >> machine, and have no idea what to do about them, or the latchup. >> >> Anyone got a clue? > > What happens if you open up Konsole and do: > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Well, this happens: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. From gheskett at wdtv.com Thu Oct 18 22:22:25 2012 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:22:25 -0400 Subject: Apper problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201210181822.25198.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Thursday 18 October 2012 18:20:22 Bill vance did opine: > Howdy folks; > > The notifier button in the panel told me I had a bunch of updates > waiting, so I clicked it, and the apper window opened. I looked them > over, clicked on, "apply", and it down loaded them. When it was done, > it locked itself into this mode that required me to check for new > updates, not allowing or doing anything else. So I clicked on the > check button, and it displayed a list of software, and said something > to the effect that it couldn't deal with setting them up, and > completely locked up. Now it won't do anything at all, and won't allow > anything else, (apt-get et al), to do anything either. > > So now I apparently have a bunch of updates frozen up somewhere on my > machine, and have no idea what to do about them, or the latchup. > > Anyone got a clue? > > Bill I believe I would do a front panel reset button reboot, wait for it to get back to usable, then pulldown the system menu, find synaptic, and see if it thinks it can fix it. Its pretty smart. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: is up! A woman can look both moral and exciting -- if she also looks as if it were quite a struggle. -- Edna Ferber From faptagon at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 01:10:40 2012 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:10:40 -0700 Subject: Apper problem In-Reply-To: <201210181822.25198.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201210181822.25198.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: On 10/18/12, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 18 October 2012 18:20:22 Bill vance did opine: > >> Howdy folks; >> >> The notifier button in the panel told me I had a bunch of updates >> waiting, so I clicked it, and the apper window opened. I looked them >> over, clicked on, "apply", and it down loaded them. When it was done, >> it locked itself into this mode that required me to check for new >> updates, not allowing or doing anything else. So I clicked on the >> check button, and it displayed a list of software, and said something >> to the effect that it couldn't deal with setting them up, and >> completely locked up. Now it won't do anything at all, and won't allow >> anything else, (apt-get et al), to do anything either. >> >> So now I apparently have a bunch of updates frozen up somewhere on my >> machine, and have no idea what to do about them, or the latchup. >> >> Anyone got a clue? >> >> Bill > > I believe I would do a front panel reset button reboot, wait for it to get > back to usable, then pulldown the system menu, find synaptic, and see if it > > thinks it can fix it. Its pretty smart. > > > Cheers, Gene Well, it fixed _something_, at least the, "Fix broken packages", option seems to have fixed some dependencies. I still don't know what happened to all those upgrades though. They didn't have time to install, and neither synaptic, or apt-get seems to know anything about them. Weirdness! Bill From basroufs at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 09:41:32 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs -En.) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:41:32 +0200 Subject: When upgrading to Kubuntu 12.10, ppa-backports have been disabled. When best to enable them again? Message-ID: <9720400.3ml2daRkx7@viaconsensus-travel> Dear Everybody, this morning I upgraded one of my laptops to Kubuntu 12.10, from 12.04. My very first impressions of the new version are simply positive. More thoughts, questions and suggestions in the coming weeks. Congratulations to all those who have worked to make "Quantal Quetzal" possible. One question for now. In September, I enabled the "ppa-backports" as software sources: with a view to getting "release candidates" and "stable" new versions of KDE 4.9.* I am happy working with "release candidates" of KDE, when they come out. That's why I am wondering when best to enable again "ppa- backports". Thanks for your suggestions. Respectfully yours, Bas. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands, EU E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . From clay at claydoh.com Fri Oct 19 09:55:27 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 05:55:27 -0400 Subject: When upgrading to Kubuntu 12.10, ppa-backports have been disabled. When best to enable them again? In-Reply-To: <9720400.3ml2daRkx7@viaconsensus-travel> References: <9720400.3ml2daRkx7@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <2164110.yJv1Kl4IzM@lark-latitude-d630> On Friday, October 19, 2012 11:41:32 AM Bas Roufs -En. wrote: > Dear Everybody, > > this morning I upgraded one of my laptops to Kubuntu 12.10, from 12.04. My > very first impressions of the new version are simply positive. More > thoughts, questions and suggestions in the coming weeks. Congratulations to > all those who have worked to make "Quantal Quetzal" possible. > > One question for now. In September, I enabled the "ppa-backports" as > software sources: with a view to getting "release candidates" and "stable" > new versions of KDE 4.9.* I am happy working with "release candidates" of > KDE, when they come out. That's why I am wondering when best to enable > again "ppa- backports". > > Thanks for your suggestions. Respectfully yours, > Bas. Any time, I guess. There currently are no updates for 12.10 in these PPAs, but KDE 4.10 is right around the corner, I believe. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com From basroufs at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 13:55:03 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs -En.) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:55:03 +0200 Subject: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! Message-ID: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> Hello Everybody In the repository of Kubuntu 12.10, Kompozer is not there any more. The same applies apparently for other *Ubuntu distros: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2072812 However, I do not really understand the solution proposed there. I really URGENTLY!!! need Kompozer or some REASONABLE alternative for Kubuntu 12.10!!! I am in the middle of a project in which I cannot do without! Please, help! Respectfully yours, Bas. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands, EU E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . From jlitwinski at vp.pl Fri Oct 19 14:21:34 2012 From: jlitwinski at vp.pl (Jan =?iso-8859-2?q?Litwi=F1ski?=) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:21:34 +0200 Subject: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! In-Reply-To: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> References: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <201210191621.34487.jlitwinski@vp.pl> Friday 19 October 2012 15:55:03 Bas Roufs -En. napisał(a): > Hello Everybody > > In the repository of Kubuntu 12.10, Kompozer is not there any more. The > same applies apparently for other *Ubuntu distros: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2072812 > However, I do not really understand the solution proposed there. > > I really URGENTLY!!! need Kompozer or some REASONABLE alternative for > Kubuntu 12.10!!! I am in the middle of a project in which I cannot do > without! Please, help! > > Respectfully yours, > Bas. > > -- > Bas G. Roufs MA > Van 't Hoffstraat 1 > NL-3514 VT Utrecht > The Netherlands, EU > E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. > Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . > Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; > RainbowGathering.eu . seamonkey has kompozer -- Jan Litwiński http://netsjanek.blogspot.com/ http://netsjanek.bloog.pl/ Linux is like a wigwam no gates no windows but apache inside From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 15:35:25 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:35:25 +0200 Subject: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! In-Reply-To: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> References: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <5081733D.1090100@gmail.com> On 19/10/2012 15:55, Bas Roufs -En. wrote: > Hello Everybody > > In the repository of Kubuntu 12.10, Kompozer is not there any more. The same > applies apparently for other *Ubuntu distros: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2072812 > However, I do not really understand the solution proposed there. > > I really URGENTLY!!! need Kompozer or some REASONABLE alternative for Kubuntu > 12.10!!! I am in the middle of a project in which I cannot do without! > Please, help! > Looking at Kompozer website, checking the ppa and downloads it seems to be "abandonware". The PPA is not flagging any versions beyond Lucid, the beta version on website is from 2010. So I suspect it does not work with newer *buntu versions due to some dependency or other. You can of course download source and try to build it yourself but I would look for an alternative or use 12.04 until the project in question is finished. Best, Sinclair From lvglist at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 15:44:42 2012 From: lvglist at gmail.com (L V Gandhi) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:14:42 +0530 Subject: windows8 partition mounting error. Message-ID: I have windows 7, windows 8 pre release version and kubuntu in my pc. While installing, I have given fs as ntfs for windows 8 also. While installing I did not get any error. But while booting to Kubuntu, I get error that partition having windows 8 could not be mounted. What can be the reason? how to overcome it? -- L V Gandhi From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri Oct 19 17:24:50 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:24:50 -0400 Subject: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! In-Reply-To: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> References: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <26501244.1H3cYOC4O0@linux1> On Friday, October 19, 2012 03:55:03 PM Bas Roufs -En. wrote: > I really URGENTLY!!! need Kompozer or some REASONABLE alternative for > Kubuntu 12.10!!! I am in the middle of a project in which I cannot do > without! Please, help! It installed just fine on my 12.10 AMD64 system... Aptitude lists it as available. aptitude search kompozer i kompozer - complete Web Authoring System i A kompozer-data - kompozer data files "Your fences need to be horse-high, hog-tight and bull-strong." From coss_michael at yahoo.com Fri Oct 19 17:35:36 2012 From: coss_michael at yahoo.com (Mike Adams) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! In-Reply-To: <26501244.1H3cYOC4O0@linux1> References: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> <26501244.1H3cYOC4O0@linux1> Message-ID: <1350668136.61913.YahooMailNeo@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> On Friday, October 19, 2012 11:24 AM Bruce Marshall > I really URGENTLY!!! need Kompozer or some REASONABLE alternative  for >> Kubuntu  12.10!!! I am in the middle of a project in which I cannot do >> without! Please, help! > It installed just fine on my 12.10 AMD64 system...  Aptitude lists it as > available. > aptitude search kompozer > i  kompozer                      - complete Web Authoring System          > i A kompozer-data                  - kompozer data files Just tried it, and it didn't work.  I received a message saying it wasn't located. It is still listed in the Mint repositories, however. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clay at claydoh.com Fri Oct 19 19:37:36 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:37:36 +0000 Subject: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! Message-ID: <20121019193736.800BF1A8440@vzwemconn23.vzw-prod.oz.com> Check for Nvu which was an updated version of kompozer, it may still be available but as was mentioned seamonkey has it built in. Kompozer is pretty much just the editor part as a standalone program. As to mint, they are still based off of 12.04, aren't they? Sent from my Droid Charge on Verizon 4G LTE ------Original Message------ From: Mike Adams To: "Bruce Marshall" ,"Kubuntu user technical support" Date: Friday, October 19, 2012 10:35:36 AM GMT-0700 Subject: Re: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! On Friday, October 19, 2012 11:24 AM Bruce Marshall > I really URGENTLY!!! need Kompozer or some REASONABLE alternative  for >> Kubuntu  12.10!!! I am in the middle of a project in which I cannot do >> without! Please, help! > It installed just fine on my 12.10 AMD64 system...  Aptitude lists it as > available. > aptitude search kompozer > i  kompozer                      - complete Web Authoring System          > i A kompozer-data                  - kompozer data files Just tried it, and it didn't work.  I received a message saying it wasn't located. It is still listed in the Mint repositories, however. Mike -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From coss_michael at yahoo.com Fri Oct 19 21:09:59 2012 From: coss_michael at yahoo.com (Mike Adams) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! In-Reply-To: <20121019193736.800BF1A8440@vzwemconn23.vzw-prod.oz.com> References: <20121019193736.800BF1A8440@vzwemconn23.vzw-prod.oz.com> Message-ID: <1350680999.33504.YahooMailNeo@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> On Friday, October 19, 2012 1:37 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > Check for Nvu which was an updated version of kompozer, it may still be available but as was mentioned seamonkey has it built in. Kompozer is pretty much > just the editor part as a standalone program. I was unaware of this...I'll check it out. > As to mint, they are still based off of 12.04, aren't they? Yes, except for a couple of Debian-based versions, most of the Mint distributions are based on Ubuntu 12.04.  I was just mentioning it as a source for the program in case it was needed.  I suspect going back to Ubuntu 12.04 won't solve the immediate problem of locating Kompozer in the Ubuntu depositories.  Making a switch to Mint might be an option worth exploring. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clay at claydoh.com Fri Oct 19 21:24:54 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:24:54 +0000 Subject: Why plug mint? Was: Re: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! Message-ID: <20121019212454.325F41A84C4@vzwemconn23.vzw-prod.oz.com> Why? I can see why mint is a viable alternative for gnome or unity users, but as a KDE distro, what does Mint's KDE offer over Kubuntu? Sent from my Droid Charge on Verizon 4G LTE ------Original Message------ From: Mike Adams To: "Clay Weber" ,"Kubuntu user technical support" Date: Friday, October 19, 2012 2:09:59 PM GMT-0700 Subject: Re: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! On Friday, October 19, 2012 1:37 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > Check for Nvu which was an updated version of kompozer, it may still be available but as was mentioned seamonkey has it built in. Kompozer is pretty much > just the editor part as a standalone program. I was unaware of this...I'll check it out. > As to mint, they are still based off of 12.04, aren't they? Yes, except for a couple of Debian-based versions, most of the Mint distributions are based on Ubuntu 12.04.  I was just mentioning it as a source for the program in case it was needed.  I suspect going back to Ubuntu 12.04 won't solve the immediate problem of locating Kompozer in the Ubuntu depositories.  Making a switch to Mint might be an option worth exploring. Mike From valtermura at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 21:31:05 2012 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:31:05 +0200 Subject: windows8 partition mounting error. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2012/10/19 L V Gandhi > I have windows 7, windows 8 pre release version and kubuntu in my pc. > While installing, I have given fs as ntfs for windows 8 also. > While installing I did not get any error. But while booting to > Kubuntu, I get error that partition having windows 8 could not be > mounted. > What can be the reason? > how to overcome it? > I suppose Win8 is very invasive... The best way, AFAIK, is to add a new HD and keep OS separated. That's what I've done in my system. -- Valter *Open Source is better!* KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Fri Oct 19 21:29:20 2012 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey (grokit)) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:29:20 -0400 Subject: email help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <150081966.TD3NHUuRgO@kirk> I found ssl settings for Kmail that I didn't know existed when I set up an email address in Thunderbird using the setup wizard (or whatever they call it) Try intalling it, setting up you account, then copying the setup info. you can alway purge it later if you don't want it. Alan On Monday, October 15, 2012 9:50:28 PM Bill vance wrote: > Howdy folks; > > I've just upgraded to Kubuntu 12.04, and need a little setup help. > > My ISP, (Comcast), requires smtp authentication. Setting up sendmail seemed > pretty confusing. So I got with the repositories, and downloaded some > alternatives, i.e., esmtp, msmtp, and exim4. Things are still confusing, and > exim4 seems to have taken over from sendmail. Looking into openssl/tls > doesn't seem to help either. > > I used to have an email package that did this by just setting up some variables > with my name, passwd, "smtp.comcast.net", and a port number. > > Can anyone tell me how to get all this working with the least fuss and bother? > > Thanks. > > Bill > > From schumskih at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 21:45:20 2012 From: schumskih at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?xaF1bXNraQ==?=) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:45:20 +0200 Subject: When upgrading to Kubuntu 12.10, ppa-backports have been disabled. When best to enable them again? In-Reply-To: <2164110.yJv1Kl4IzM@lark-latitude-d630> References: <9720400.3ml2daRkx7@viaconsensus-travel> <2164110.yJv1Kl4IzM@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <12306498.rN0ZYUrvKp@shumarija> On Friday 19 of October 2012 05:55:27 Clay Weber wrote: > On Friday, October 19, 2012 11:41:32 AM Bas Roufs -En. wrote: > > Dear Everybody, > > > > this morning I upgraded one of my laptops to Kubuntu 12.10, from 12.04. My > > very first impressions of the new version are simply positive. More > > thoughts, questions and suggestions in the coming weeks. Congratulations > > to > > all those who have worked to make "Quantal Quetzal" possible. > > > > One question for now. In September, I enabled the "ppa-backports" as > > software sources: with a view to getting "release candidates" and > > "stable" > > new versions of KDE 4.9.* I am happy working with "release candidates" of > > KDE, when they come out. That's why I am wondering when best to enable > > again "ppa- backports". > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. Respectfully yours, > > Bas. > > Any time, I guess. There currently are no updates for 12.10 in these PPAs, > but KDE 4.10 is right around the corner, I believe. Well, a 3 months time around the corner ;-) From coss_michael at yahoo.com Fri Oct 19 22:00:45 2012 From: coss_michael at yahoo.com (Mike Adams) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Kubuntu vs Mint KDE (?) References: <20121019212454.325F41A84C4@vzwemconn23.vzw-prod.oz.com> Message-ID: <1350684045.43424.YahooMailNeo@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> On Friday, October 19, 2012 3:24 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > Why? I can see why mint is a viable alternative for gnome or unity users, but as a KDE distro, what does Mint's KDE offer over Kubuntu? That's a good question.  Personally I prefer Kubuntu, but I was mentioning the Mint version simply because I believe switching back to 12.04 doesn't change the repository issue. BTW, did you know your messages are posting twice? Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clay at claydoh.com Fri Oct 19 22:20:33 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:20:33 +0000 Subject: Kubuntu vs Mint KDE (?) Message-ID: <20121019222033.D384470322@vzwemconn21.vzw-prod.oz.com> Probably because for some reason it wants to send both directly to you and to the list, which it's not normal. I thought I had removed your personal email address from the send list, maybe it's time again to switch away from the stock android email app I am using. Sent from my Droid Charge on Verizon 4G LTE ------Original Message------ From: Mike Adams To: "Clay Weber" ,"Kubuntu user technical support" Date: Friday, October 19, 2012 3:00:45 PM GMT-0700 Subject: Kubuntu vs Mint KDE (?) On Friday, October 19, 2012 3:24 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > Why? I can see why mint is a viable alternative for gnome or unity users, but as a KDE distro, what does Mint's KDE offer over Kubuntu? That's a good question.  Personally I prefer Kubuntu, but I was mentioning the Mint version simply because I believe switching back to 12.04 doesn't change the repository issue. BTW, did you know your messages are posting twice? Mike -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From clay at claydoh.com Fri Oct 19 22:29:31 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 18:29:31 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu vs Mint KDE (?) In-Reply-To: <1350684045.43424.YahooMailNeo@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <20121019212454.325F41A84C4@vzwemconn23.vzw-prod.oz.com> <1350684045.43424.YahooMailNeo@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3987353.hr8lcOvKzC@lark-latitude-d630> On Friday, October 19, 2012 03:00:45 PM Mike Adams wrote: On Friday, October 19, 2012 3:24 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > Why? I can see why mint is a viable alternative for gnome or unity users, but as a KDE distro, what does Mint's KDE offer over Kubuntu? That's a good question. Personally I prefer Kubuntu, but I was mentioning the Mint version simply because I believe switching back to 12.04 doesn't change the repository issue. BTW, did you know your messages are posting twice? Mike Well keeping or reverting to 12.04 does as the package was only removed from Quantal, as it no longer compiles there. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 01:13:18 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 03:13:18 +0200 Subject: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! In-Reply-To: <2156939.fRF0ybWovH@kirk> References: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> <2156939.fRF0ybWovH@kirk> Message-ID: Dear Everybody, thanks for all your efforts to help me. You shared with me several ideas - unfortunately none of them seems to work - probably due to the fact that Kompozer is really obsolete and "abandonware". On the other hand, I found "BlueGriffon", which is a fork of NVU - like Kompozer. More info: http://bluegriffon.org/ As far as I can see now, BlueGriffon is quite similar to Kompozer, however more up to date and not "abandoned"/ obsolete. After getting a bit more experience with BlueGriffon, I will share with you my experience at this forum. 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More info: > http://bluegriffon.org/ > > As far as I can see now, BlueGriffon is quite similar to Kompozer, > however more up to date and not "abandoned"/ obsolete. > > After getting a bit more experience with BlueGriffon, I will share with > you my experience at this forum. > > Respectfully yours, > Bas Roufs. > > Thanks for sharing that find! These days I "normally" use a CMS as template but for simple pages this seems to work well. And the fact that there is a "mobile view" plugin shows they are more updated than Kompozer for sure... Sinclair From alokmahor at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 18:25:39 2012 From: alokmahor at gmail.com (Alok Singh Mahor) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 23:55:39 +0530 Subject: kamoso in kubuntu 12.10 Message-ID: Hi all, I am using Kubuntu 12.10 kamoso came by default with installation but its not working for me. I am not even getting any clue the what is wrong ? please tell me what can be the problem ? I am using Lenovo G550 it work very well with cheese thank you -- Alok Singh Mahor http://alokmahor.co.cc Join the next generation of computing, Open Source and Linux/GNU!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From myriam at kde.org Sat Oct 20 19:25:53 2012 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:25:53 +0200 Subject: When upgrading to Kubuntu 12.10, ppa-backports have been disabled. When best to enable them again? In-Reply-To: <2164110.yJv1Kl4IzM@lark-latitude-d630> References: <9720400.3ml2daRkx7@viaconsensus-travel> <2164110.yJv1Kl4IzM@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: Hi all, On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Clay Weber wrote: > On Friday, October 19, 2012 11:41:32 AM Bas Roufs -En. wrote: >> Dear Everybody, ... > > Any time, I guess. There currently are no updates for 12.10 in these PPAs, but > KDE 4.10 is right around the corner, I believe. You probably meant KDE 4.9.3, which is indeed due quite soon :) Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From clay at claydoh.com Sat Oct 20 19:52:04 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:52:04 -0400 Subject: When upgrading to Kubuntu 12.10, ppa-backports have been disabled. When best to enable them again? In-Reply-To: References: <9720400.3ml2daRkx7@viaconsensus-travel> <2164110.yJv1Kl4IzM@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <1e61b46d-5294-4676-8013-2a586a9ddfce@email.android.com> No I did mean 4.10, in terms of betas, etc. A month is not that long a time, is it? Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >Hi all, > >On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Clay Weber wrote: >> On Friday, October 19, 2012 11:41:32 AM Bas Roufs -En. wrote: >>> Dear Everybody, >... >> >> Any time, I guess. There currently are no updates for 12.10 in these >PPAs, but >> KDE 4.10 is right around the corner, I believe. > >You probably meant KDE 4.9.3, which is indeed due quite soon :) > > >Regards, Myriam > >-- >Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community >Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: >http://www.fsfe.org >Please don't send me proprietary file formats, >use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) > >-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tuxmario.detreb at gmail.com Sun Oct 21 07:48:49 2012 From: tuxmario.detreb at gmail.com (TuxMario DeTreb) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 09:48:49 +0200 Subject: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! In-Reply-To: <50823AF4.7070701@gmail.com> References: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> <2156939.fRF0ybWovH@kirk> <50823AF4.7070701@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5083A8E1.3000608@gmail.com> Hello I had similar question about Kompozer I found "BlueGriffon" too I also found "BlueFish" : http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html Today I'm using both because I reach some issues with "BlueGriffon" which some times detects tag error when there is no error. In such a case I use "BlueFish" to save my modifications. Then it's possible to use "BlueGriffon" again with the updated html source. I have also some error with "BlueGriffon" when & is not well managed. I have to change this "&" by "&" Hope this help I apologise for my poor English and you're welcome to correct my text Cheers all ! TuxMario Le 20/10/2012 07:47, O. Sinclair a écrit : > On 20/10/2012 03:13, Bas Roufs wrote: >> Dear Everybody, >> >> thanks for all your efforts to help me. You shared with me several ideas >> - unfortunately none of them seems to work - probably due to the fact >> that Kompozer is really obsolete and "abandonware". >> >> On the other hand, I found "BlueGriffon", which is a fork of NVU - like >> Kompozer. More info: >> http://bluegriffon.org/ >> >> As far as I can see now, BlueGriffon is quite similar to Kompozer, >> however more up to date and not "abandoned"/ obsolete. >> >> After getting a bit more experience with BlueGriffon, I will share with >> you my experience at this forum. >> >> Respectfully yours, >> Bas Roufs. >> >> > Thanks for sharing that find! These days I "normally" use a CMS as > template but for simple pages this seems to work well. And the fact > that there is a "mobile view" plugin shows they are more updated than > Kompozer for sure... > > Sinclair > From myriam at kde.org Sun Oct 21 09:58:36 2012 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:58:36 +0200 Subject: When upgrading to Kubuntu 12.10, ppa-backports have been disabled. When best to enable them again? In-Reply-To: <1e61b46d-5294-4676-8013-2a586a9ddfce@email.android.com> References: <9720400.3ml2daRkx7@viaconsensus-travel> <2164110.yJv1Kl4IzM@lark-latitude-d630> <1e61b46d-5294-4676-8013-2a586a9ddfce@email.android.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > No I did mean 4.10, in terms of betas, etc. A month is not that long a time, > is it? Except that the backports PPA will not hold any beta releases, that is what the beta PPA is there for. KDE 4.10 final is due in January: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.10_Release_Schedule Regards, Myriam. -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Sun Oct 21 13:24:54 2012 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:24:54 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu 12.10 upgrade Message-ID: <5044204.mApSCxLknX@rachael> I've now completed 2 upgrades to 12.10 and here are some problems I've encountered: 1) Rebooting after the upgrade I get the error "the disk drive for /tmp is not ready yet" press S to skip or M to manage. After a 2nd reboot this error disappeared. 2) Can't change the system language. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12308689. 3) One of the systems I've upgraded is a netbook which I'd removed k3b from as it doesn't have an optical drive. Upgrading to 12.10 installs k3b again, if I try to remove it I'm told it wants to remove some language packs. 4) The other is a laptop which is 64 bit and I noticed that a lot of the packages it was upgrading were duplicated for i386 and AMD64. From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Sun Oct 21 13:35:47 2012 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey (grokit)) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 09:35:47 -0400 Subject: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! In-Reply-To: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> References: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <1748817.O3eTsbKtCD@kirk> Try downloading kompozer the packages from the ubuntu repository [1] with your web brrowser and installing them with dpkg -i There isn't any specific version on the packages so it should work. [1] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kompozer/ Alan On Friday, October 19, 2012 3:55:03 PM Bas Roufs -En. wrote: > Hello Everybody > > In the repository of Kubuntu 12.10, Kompozer is not there any more. The same > applies apparently for other *Ubuntu distros: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2072812 > However, I do not really understand the solution proposed there. > > I really URGENTLY!!! need Kompozer or some REASONABLE alternative for Kubuntu > 12.10!!! I am in the middle of a project in which I cannot do without! > Please, help! > > Respectfully yours, > Bas. > > From gkourtev at gmail.com Sun Oct 21 16:14:55 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:14:55 +0300 Subject: Kubuntu 12.10 upgrade In-Reply-To: <5044204.mApSCxLknX@rachael> References: <5044204.mApSCxLknX@rachael> Message-ID: For testing yesterday I installed the ubuntu 12.10 on a virtualbox machine. Got the same message as described by you in item 1. So it seems a rathed package issue. Gk На 21.10.2012 16:27 "Mark Fraser" написа: > I've now completed 2 upgrades to 12.10 and here are some problems I've > encountered: > > 1) Rebooting after the upgrade I get the error "the disk drive for /tmp is > not > ready yet" press S to skip or M to manage. After a 2nd reboot this error > disappeared. > > 2) Can't change the system language. See > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12308689. > > 3) One of the systems I've upgraded is a netbook which I'd removed k3b > from as > it doesn't have an optical drive. Upgrading to 12.10 installs k3b again, > if I > try to remove it I'm told it wants to remove some language packs. > > 4) The other is a laptop which is 64 bit and I noticed that a lot of the > packages it was upgrading were duplicated for i386 and AMD64. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I also have vista on my computer and that is the one I have to use. How can I retrieve my driver for the internet if it won't let me get on the internet. If I try to go to an earlier date and time the black screen pops up asking for my password, after I put that in it ask for a lot of information that I do not know the answer for and therefore cannot enter it. What exactly can I do PLEASE. ________________________________ From: Mark Fraser To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 8:24 AM Subject: Kubuntu 12.10 upgrade I've now completed 2 upgrades to 12.10 and here are some problems I've encountered: 1) Rebooting after the upgrade I get the error "the disk drive for /tmp is not ready yet" press S to skip or M to manage. After a 2nd reboot this error disappeared. 2) Can't change the system language. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12308689. 3) One of the systems I've upgraded is a netbook which I'd removed k3b from as it doesn't have an optical drive. Upgrading to 12.10 installs k3b again, if I try to remove it I'm told it wants to remove some language packs. 4) The other is a laptop which is 64 bit and I noticed that a lot of the packages it was upgrading were duplicated for i386 and AMD64. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jason at joines.org Mon Oct 22 06:07:01 2012 From: jason at joines.org (Jason Paul Joines) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:07:01 -0700 Subject: where does firefox running on kubuntu get the recently used list in it's file picker Message-ID: <5084E285.2060304@joines.org> I'm using Kubuntu 12.04.1 and Firefox 16.0.1 (16.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1). The problem I'm having is actually with Zotero Standalone 3.0.8. When attaching a file to a Zotero library item, it brings up the exact same file picker as that used by Firefox to open a file. In Firefox, the dialog defaults to the last directory I opened a file from. However, in Zotero it defaults to a list of "Recently Used" files which is causing me about 100 annoying extra clicks per day. I discovered that Zotero uses the same file picker as Firefox, http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/25837/attach-link-to-file-file-picker, it's just not defaulting to the last used directory. The file picker is not the native Firefox picker. If I set the Firefox preference ui.allow_platform_file_picker = false, a completely different file picker is used by Firefox. So it seems Zotero ss getting this particular file picker from Kubuntu just like Firefox and it seems I need to know how it does this in order to figure out how to fix the problem. Any idea how Firefox gets this file picker from Kubuntu? Jason =========== From jason at joines.org Mon Oct 22 07:49:23 2012 From: jason at joines.org (Jason Paul Joines) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 00:49:23 -0700 Subject: where does firefox running on kubuntu get the recently used list in it's file picker In-Reply-To: <5084E285.2060304@joines.org> References: <5084E285.2060304@joines.org> Message-ID: <5084FA83.7090105@joines.org> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: where does firefox running on kubuntu get the recently used list in it's file picker From: Jason Paul Joines To: Kubuntu user technical support Date: 2012.10.21.Sun.23:07:01 > I'm using Kubuntu 12.04.1 and Firefox 16.0.1 > (16.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1). The problem I'm having is actually > with Zotero Standalone 3.0.8. When attaching a file to a Zotero library > item, it brings up the exact same file picker as that used by Firefox to > open a file. In Firefox, the dialog defaults to the last directory I > opened a file from. However, in Zotero it defaults to a list of > "Recently Used" files which is causing me about 100 annoying extra > clicks per day. > > I discovered that Zotero uses the same file picker as Firefox, > http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/25837/attach-link-to-file-file-picker, > it's just not defaulting to the last used directory. The file picker is > not the native Firefox picker. If I set the Firefox preference > ui.allow_platform_file_picker = false, a completely different file > picker is used by Firefox. > > So it seems Zotero ss getting this particular file picker from > Kubuntu just like Firefox and it seems I need to know how it does this > in order to figure out how to fix the problem. Any idea how Firefox > gets this file picker from Kubuntu? > > > Jason > =========== OK, so when either Firefox or Zotero uses the platform file picker in Kubuntu, they are actually using the GTK FileChooser. Firefox just somehow overrides default selection of "recently used" and picks the last used directory. I've been able to hard code a Zotero build to default to a specified directory but not to the last used directory. Jason =========== From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 14:13:35 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:13:35 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu 12.10 upgrade In-Reply-To: <1350842095.62594.YahooMailNeo@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <5044204.mApSCxLknX@rachael> <1350842095.62594.YahooMailNeo@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5085548F.8030201@gmail.com> On 21/10/2012 19:54, Elizabeth Lockridge wrote: > After upgrading my kubuntu some of my drivers were lost. I can't get > any drivers, because I can't get online. I also have vista on my > computer and that is the one I have to use. How can I retrieve my driver > for the internet if it won't let me get on the internet. If I try to go > to an earlier date and time the black screen pops up asking for my > password, after I put that in it ask for a lot of information that I do > not know the answer for and therefore cannot enter it. What exactly can > I do PLEASE. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ In order to help a bit more information is needed. Such as if you are on a laptop and you mean wireless internet driver in which case the easiest would be to connect via cable and then install whatever driver is needed. Or what driver(s) you are missing, what card are you using on the computer? Best Sinclair From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Tue Oct 23 10:37:46 2012 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: 12.10 upgrade not found In-Reply-To: <1314564963.806757.1350988562653.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1985566224.806811.1350988666392.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I have a 12.04 system and set the software sources to update for normal releases (not LTS). After updating, I'm still not getting a notice that a new version is available and apt-get dist-upgrade reports that no updates are available. What gives? Do I have to do a fresh install? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Upgrading to 12.10 installs k3b again, > if I > try to remove it I'm told it wants to remove some language packs. > > 4) The other is a laptop which is 64 bit and I noticed that a lot of the > packages it was upgrading were duplicated for i386 and AMD64. > I've now upgraded a desktop machine with Nvidia graphics and the old "this driver is activated but not in use" bug is back and I have a text Plymouth loading screen again. Any ideas how to solve both problems? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Do I have to do a fresh install? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gilgib1 at verizon.net Tue Oct 23 11:41:33 2012 From: gilgib1 at verizon.net (Gil Gibbons) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:41:33 -0400 Subject: 12.10 upgrade not found In-Reply-To: <1985566224.806811.1350988666392.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1985566224.806811.1350988666392.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <5086826D.8010402@verizon.net> On 10/23/2012 06:37 AM, Paul Kaplan wrote: > I have a 12.04 system and set the software sources to update for normal > releases (not LTS). After updating, I'm still not getting a notice that > a new version is available and apt-get dist-upgrade reports that no > updates are available. > > What gives? Do I have to do a fresh install? > >start Muon and under Settings. Configure Software Sources, Updates and select normal under Relese Upgrade From buzzmandt at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 11:58:25 2012 From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:58:25 -0400 Subject: 12.10 upgrade not found In-Reply-To: <5086826D.8010402@verizon.net> References: <1985566224.806811.1350988666392.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <5086826D.8010402@verizon.net> Message-ID: Op said has already set for normal release. On Oct 23, 2012 7:43 AM, "Gil Gibbons" wrote: > On 10/23/2012 06:37 AM, Paul Kaplan wrote: > >> I have a 12.04 system and set the software sources to update for normal >> releases (not LTS). After updating, I'm still not getting a notice that >> a new version is available and apt-get dist-upgrade reports that no >> updates are available. >> >> What gives? Do I have to do a fresh install? >> >> start Muon and under Settings. Configure Software Sources, Updates and >> > select normal under Relese Upgrade > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 12:19:41 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs -En.) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:19:41 +0200 Subject: 12.10 upgrade not found In-Reply-To: <1985566224.806811.1350988666392.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1985566224.806811.1350988666392.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2481682.jVllMkzZkX@viaconsensus-travel> Hello Paul > I have a 12.04 system and set the software sources to update for normal > releases (not LTS). After updating, I'm still not getting a notice that a > new version is available and apt-get dist-upgrade reports that no updates > are available. Last week I did manage to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10. I did so by carefully following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu However, take into account a few weird details I summarise here. I had the same problem as you, but I happened to find a "workaround" - which I try to explain here. At the top of the page mentioned above, the steps to be done have been summarised in three basic steps: > set release upgrades to be for normal releases instead of LTS releases > run the release upgrade tool > reboot Though you did already the first step, do it again - simply to fire up the upgrade process you want to set into motion. First go to K Menu > System > Muon Software Centre > Settings > Configure Software Sources. There, set again the update for normal releases. After doing so, QUIT Muon Software Centre. Second step. Do not wait for the new version update notifier, but carry out another update check - simply to make sure that your system is really up to date. Do so best via a terminal: sudo aptitude update. Wait for the update check to finish while staying in the same terminal. Now, give in another unix command: sudo aptitude safe-upgrade If you do not have "aptitude", install it first: sudo apt-get install aptitude. At the end of the update process, you will be prompted for Y/N: to update or not to update :-). Give in Y, wait for the process to finish and close the terminal. Third step. If the upgrade notifyer pops up, click at it and follow the instructions that will come to you. If not, go to K-Menu > System > Muon PACKAGE MANAGER > check for updates. By doing so IN THIS STAGE, you will force the upgrade notifyer to appear. Finally, one more nasty detail in case you use Kompozer. This web authoring tool is obsolete and does not work any more in 12.10 and beyond. However, there is a good alternative which is like Kompozer, but up to date: BlueGriffon. This package is not or not yet in a repository. Install it directly from BlueGriffon.org. > Do I have to do a fresh install? What I usually do: 1. First upgrade. 2. Make a list of installed packages: see http://bit.ly/OYQsls 3. Backup this list and all other files to an external HD, via the package "LuckyBackup". 4. Fresh install of the same Kubuntu version. I go through this four step cycle twice a year. Of course, the backup I make more often; a few times per week. By doing so, I keep the system vital. I hope this helps. Respectfully yours, Bas Roufs. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands, EU E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . From seamlikok at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 15:02:01 2012 From: seamlikok at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?5q635ZCv6IGq?=) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:02:01 +0800 Subject: 12.10 upgrade not found In-Reply-To: <2481682.jVllMkzZkX@viaconsensus-travel> References: <1985566224.806811.1350988666392.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <2481682.jVllMkzZkX@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: Simply run "update-manager -d" and Update Manager will be forced to check whether an upgrade is available. 2012/10/23, Bas Roufs -En. : > Hello Paul > >> I have a 12.04 system and set the software sources to update for normal >> releases (not LTS). After updating, I'm still not getting a notice that >> a >> new version is available and apt-get dist-upgrade reports that no updates >> are available. > > Last week I did manage to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10. I did so by carefully > > following the instructions here: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu > > However, take into account a few weird details I summarise here. I had the > same problem as you, but I happened to find a "workaround" - which I try to > > explain here. > > At the top of the page mentioned above, the steps to be done have been > summarised in three basic steps: >> set release upgrades to be for normal releases instead of LTS releases >> run the release upgrade tool >> reboot > > Though you did already the first step, do it again - simply to fire up the > > upgrade process you want to set into motion. First go to K Menu > System > > Muon Software Centre > Settings > Configure Software Sources. There, set > again > the update for normal releases. After doing so, QUIT Muon Software Centre. > > Second step. Do not wait for the new version update notifier, but carry out > > another update check - simply to make sure that your system is really up to > > date. Do so best via a terminal: > sudo aptitude update. > Wait for the update check to finish while staying in the same terminal. Now, > > give in another unix command: > sudo aptitude safe-upgrade > If you do not have "aptitude", install it first: > sudo apt-get install aptitude. > At the end of the update process, you will be prompted for Y/N: to update or > > not to update :-). Give in Y, wait for the process to finish and close the > terminal. > > > Third step. If the upgrade notifyer pops up, click at it and follow the > instructions that will come to you. If not, go to K-Menu > System > > Muon PACKAGE MANAGER > check for updates. By doing so IN THIS STAGE, you > will force the upgrade notifyer to appear. > > Finally, one more nasty detail in case you use Kompozer. This web authoring > > tool is obsolete and does not work any more in 12.10 and beyond. However, > there is a good alternative which is like Kompozer, but up to date: > BlueGriffon. > This package is not or not yet in a repository. Install it directly from > BlueGriffon.org. > >> Do I have to do a fresh install? > > What I usually do: > 1. First upgrade. > 2. Make a list of installed packages: see http://bit.ly/OYQsls > 3. Backup this list and all other files to an external HD, via the package > "LuckyBackup". > 4. Fresh install of the same Kubuntu version. > > I go through this four step cycle twice a year. Of course, the backup I > make > more often; a few times per week. > By doing so, I keep the system vital. > > I hope this helps. > Respectfully yours, > Bas Roufs. > > > -- > Bas G. Roufs MA > Van 't Hoffstraat 1 > NL-3514 VT Utrecht > The Netherlands, EU > E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. > Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . > Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu > . > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- /******************** Seamlik Yantysoon - 殷启聪 热爱 CG 与软件开发，Linux 与 GNOME 脑残粉，开源软件拥护者，咏春爱好者，反对中国教育，对中国政府失望。 新浪微博：weibo.com/seamlik 新浪博客：blog.sina.com.cn/seamlik ********************/ From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Tue Oct 23 22:11:37 2012 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Tom Bell) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:11:37 -0400 Subject: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! In-Reply-To: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> References: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: On 10/19/2012 9:55 AM, Bas Roufs -En. wrote: > Hello Everybody > > In the repository of Kubuntu 12.10, Kompozer is not there any more. The same > applies apparently for other *Ubuntu distros: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2072812 > However, I do not really understand the solution proposed there. > > I really URGENTLY!!! need Kompozer or some REASONABLE alternative for Kubuntu > 12.10!!! I am in the middle of a project in which I cannot do without! > Please, help! > > Respectfully yours, > Bas. > You might try the following: http://portableapps.com/apps/development/nvu_portable It is the portable version of Kompozer. You can run it under WINE and run it from a USB drive. Good luck! Tom From cp at ccil.org Tue Oct 23 22:25:55 2012 From: cp at ccil.org (Chuck Peters) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:25:55 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu 12.10 upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <5044204.mApSCxLknX@rachael> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Mark Fraser wrote: > > > I've now upgraded a desktop machine with Nvidia graphics and the old "this driver is activated but not in use" bug is back and I have a text Plymouth loading screen again. > > Any ideas how to solve both problems? Which driver is that, the nvidia-96 or nvidia-173? Have you searched for a bug report? If you can't find one, please file a bug report and let us know the number so others can find it. Last release, 12.04, we had problems with the older nvidia cards and it was a few months (I think 3-6 months depending on which nvidia driver you needed) until they were resolved. I ended up buying a new AGP video card for a friend to help resolve the issue and improve performance. On another machine I found an unfriendly work around that involved pinning X packages from the previous release, and those kind of work around's can lead to further problems. Chuck From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Wed Oct 24 01:29:11 2012 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis Linux) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:29:11 +0200 Subject: Nvidia settings 100hz tv Message-ID: Hello, First i had a Ati Radeon 9200 with s-video, now i have a Nvidia 6200 with s-video to my tv.My tv is 100hz, how do i set the X Server settings to 100hz?The 60hz is not a option, the screen is too blurry.In Windows there was no trouble with the 100hz and it worked perfectly even with the Ati Radeon 9200 who wasn't supported with Linux by Ati anymore.I don't want to go back to Windows but if the screen isn't going better i do.I hope someone can tell me. Regards, Dennis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed Oct 24 04:29:46 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:29:46 +1100 Subject: Nvidia settings 100hz tv In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50876EBA.9080106@iinet.net.au> On 24/10/12 12:29, Dennis Linux wrote: > Hello, > > First i had a Ati Radeon 9200 with s-video, now i have a Nvidia 6200 > with s-video to my tv. > My tv is 100hz, how do i set the X Server settings to 100hz? > The 60hz is not a option, the screen is too blurry. > In Windows there was no trouble with the 100hz and it worked perfectly > even with the Ati Radeon 9200 who wasn't supported with Linux by Ati > anymore. > I don't want to go back to Windows but if the screen isn't going > better i do. > I hope someone can tell me. > > Regards, Dennis You first need to install the full-featured nVidia driver (not the nouveau which is installed as default) and then use the nvidia driver configuration (you will find it in the Kickoff menu/Applications) where you set the frequency as well as other things. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.2 & kernel 3.6.3.1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From cody.smith9202 at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 04:44:02 2012 From: cody.smith9202 at gmail.com (Cody Smith) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:44:02 -0700 Subject: Nvidia settings 100hz tv In-Reply-To: <50876EBA.9080106@iinet.net.au> References: <50876EBA.9080106@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Problem is is he isn't using nvidia, but AMD/ATI, so he would want fglrx, but apparently AMD dropped support of his card. --c_smith On Oct 23, 2012 9:31 PM, "Basil Chupin" wrote: > > On 24/10/12 12:29, Dennis Linux wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> First i had a Ati Radeon 9200 with s-video, now i have a Nvidia 6200 with s-video to my tv. >> My tv is 100hz, how do i set the X Server settings to 100hz? >> The 60hz is not a option, the screen is too blurry. >> In Windows there was no trouble with the 100hz and it worked perfectly even with the Ati Radeon 9200 who wasn't supported with Linux by Ati anymore. >> I don't want to go back to Windows but if the screen isn't going better i do. >> I hope someone can tell me. >> >> Regards, Dennis > > > You first need to install the full-featured nVidia driver (not the nouveau which is installed as default) and then use the nvidia driver configuration (you will find it in the Kickoff menu/Applications) where you set the frequency as well as other things. > > BC > > -- > Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.2 & kernel 3.6.3.1 on a system with- > AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor > 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM > Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Oct 23, 2012 9:40 PM, wrote: > > Problem is is he isn't using nvidia, but AMD/ATI, so he would want fglrx, but apparently AMD dropped support of his card. > > --c_smith > On Oct 23, 2012 9:31 PM, "Basil Chupin" wrote: > > > > On 24/10/12 12:29, Dennis Linux wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> First i had a Ati Radeon 9200 with s-video, now i have a Nvidia 6200 with s-video to my tv. > >> My tv is 100hz, how do i set the X Server settings to 100hz? > >> The 60hz is not a option, the screen is too blurry. > >> In Windows there was no trouble with the 100hz and it worked perfectly even with the Ati Radeon 9200 who wasn't supported with Linux by Ati anymore. > >> I don't want to go back to Windows but if the screen isn't going better i do. > >> I hope someone can tell me. > >> > >> Regards, Dennis > > > > > > You first need to install the full-featured nVidia driver (not the nouveau which is installed as default) and then use the nvidia driver configuration (you will find it in the Kickoff menu/Applications) where you set the frequency as well as other things. > > > > BC > > > > -- > > Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.2 & kernel 3.6.3.1 on a system with- > > AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor > > 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM > > Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 06:38:33 2012 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:38:33 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu 12.10 upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <5044204.mApSCxLknX@rachael> Message-ID: <2582050.BtUpa0WraB@rachael> On Tuesday 23 Oct 2012 18:25:55 Chuck Peters wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Mark Fraser wrote: > > I've now upgraded a desktop machine with Nvidia graphics and the old "this > > driver is activated but not in use" bug is back and I have a text > > Plymouth loading screen again. > > > > Any ideas how to solve both problems? > > Which driver is that, the nvidia-96 or nvidia-173? Have you searched > for a bug report? If you can't find one, please file a bug report and > let us know the number so others can find it. Neither of them, it is nvidia-current-updates which seems to be version 304.43. It was working fine on that computer before the upgrade and Additional Drivers used to say "This driver is activated and currently in use." > Last release, 12.04, we had problems with the older nvidia cards and it > was a few months (I think 3-6 months depending on which nvidia driver > you needed) until they were resolved. I ended up buying a new AGP video > card for a friend to help resolve the issue and improve performance. On > another machine I found an unfriendly work around that involved pinning X > packages from the previous release, and those kind of work around's can > lead to further problems. This is a fairly new GeForce 210 card. From gkourtev at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 14:10:52 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:10:52 +0300 Subject: Cannot see emails Message-ID: Hi all, Today after starting my laptop from suspended session, I cannot work with Kontact Kmail feature. After launching it, my folders are like in a constant update status -- see picture in the link that visualise this. https://www.dropbox.com/s/28q8hxl9ggmk0wc/Kmail%20issue.png All other resources like calendar and address books seem to work fine. I tried to: 1. restart the laptop 2. restart Akonadi server ...and nothing helps. Any ideas how can I get it back to work? Kubuntu 12.04.1, KDE 4.9.2 Thanks, gk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 14:59:21 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs -En.) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:59:21 +0200 Subject: Cannot see emails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2040362.2WYURDM7xs@viaconsensus-travel> Hello Georgi > Today after starting my laptop from suspended session, I cannot work with > Kontact Kmail feature. After launching it, my folders are like in a > constant update status -- see picture in the link that visualise this. > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/28q8hxl9ggmk0wc/Kmail%20issue.png A quick look at your image is enough to recognise the problem. > ...and nothing helps. Any ideas how can I get it back to work? Quick measures: + kill all Kontact related processes via the system activity monitor applet; + restart the system after doing so and open Kontact again; + Cleanse your inbox via webmail and archive what do not delete > > Kubuntu 12.04.1, KDE 4.9.2 Next measure: upgrade to 12.10. I did so and I have the feeling it works slightly better now. I hope it helps. Bas. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands, EU E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . From kassube at gmx.net Wed Oct 24 15:50:31 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:50:31 +0200 Subject: Cannot see emails In-Reply-To: <2040362.2WYURDM7xs@viaconsensus-travel> References: <2040362.2WYURDM7xs@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <201210241750.31321.kassube@gmx.net> Bas Roufs -En. wrote: > > Kubuntu 12.04.1, KDE 4.9.2 > > Next measure: upgrade to 12.10. I did so and I have the feeling it > works slightly better now. But isn't 12.10 also shipped with KDE 4.9.2? Then there should be no difference to the kontact / kmail problems. Nils From gkourtev at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 17:07:08 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:07:08 +0300 Subject: Cannot see emails In-Reply-To: <2040362.2WYURDM7xs@viaconsensus-travel> References: <2040362.2WYURDM7xs@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <1430671.ZWSvAveWsP@gkourtev-laptop> > > Quick measures: > + kill all Kontact related processes via the system activity monitor applet; > + restart the system after doing so and open Kontact again; > + Cleanse your inbox via webmail and archive what do not delete This did not help as said before. I have 2 POP3 and 1 IMAP account, all affected, which seems something internal on the laptop, rather then on server side > > Kubuntu 12.04.1, KDE 4.9.2 > > Next measure: upgrade to 12.10. I did so and I have the feeling it works > slightly better now. First, I'd like to keep on LTS versions only, also I agree with Nils that the KDE version on 12.10 is the same, so should not make difference. What happened is that I left the laptop for about 2 hours, then restarted. Kontact works again. I beleive that it was related to different messages missing the chance to be sorted out by Akonadi (or else?) thus disabling them in Kmail. gk From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Wed Oct 24 23:18:32 2012 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis Linux) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:18:32 +0200 Subject: Radeon open driver install Message-ID: Hello all, I put my old Ati Radeon 9250 in my sisters pc connected with s-video to her tv.I know that the Ati don't support the card anymore, but how can i install the Radeon driver instead of the Vesa?If someone can tell me how to install a working open software i would be happy. Regards, Dennis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However Traditional Chinese pack has been available. -- /******************** Seamlik Yantysoon - 殷启聪 热爱 CG 与软件开发，Linux 脑残粉，开源软件拥护者，咏春爱好者，反对中国教育，对中国政府失望。 新浪微博：weibo.com/seamlik 新浪博客：blog.sina.com.cn/seamlik ********************/ From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Fri Oct 26 01:02:09 2012 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis Linux) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 03:02:09 +0200 Subject: 100 hz tv and radeon Message-ID: Hello all, I use the open radeon with a Ati Radoen 9200 to a 100 hz tv with s-video.Why can Ubuntu see only 60 hz instead of the 100 hz?Windows did see 100 hz, why can't see Ubuntu the 100 hz?The Radeon should do a better job than the official ati drivers.I would like the 100 hz or i go back to Windhoos. Regards, Nicole -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think #1 is the prime problem, but it may be solvable, using some research and other command line tools, unfortunately. http://askubuntu.com/questions/80720/unable-to-add-100hz-output-with-xrandr https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Xrandr_Graphical_Front_End_GUI A note on the last link, it does not mention the KDE tool, krandrtray, which can be used to switch between different modes and outputs once you have added and tested 100hz modes. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Fri Oct 26 21:54:09 2012 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:54:09 +0200 Subject: Latest updates for 12.10 Message-ID: <508B0681.2050901@prayingforisrael.net> I just did an apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. There was a whole bunch of KDE stuff and after the upgrade, and logging out and back in again, all my desktop settings vanished! I was left with a brand new desktop as if I had just done a clean install (or renamed my .kde directory). WARNING: Make a backup of your .kde directory before doing the update/upgrade. I now have to rebuild my desktop back to the way I had it before :-( Nigel From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Fri Oct 26 21:57:50 2012 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:57:50 +0200 Subject: Latest updates for 12.10 In-Reply-To: <508B0681.2050901@prayingforisrael.net> References: <508B0681.2050901@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <508B075E.1070809@prayingforisrael.net> On 10/26/2012 11:54 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > I just did an apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. There was a whole bunch of KDE > stuff and after the upgrade, and logging out and back in again, all my desktop settings vanished! > I was left with a brand new desktop as if I had just done a clean install (or renamed my .kde > directory). > > WARNING: Make a backup of your .kde directory before doing the update/upgrade. > I now have to rebuild my desktop back to the way I had it before :-( > > Nigel I forgot to add that the 'Kickoff' (the 'K' button) now doesn't have the ability to change to the classic style - I really don't like the new style at all!! Nigel From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Fri Oct 26 22:18:08 2012 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:18:08 +0200 Subject: Latest updates for 12.10 In-Reply-To: <508B0681.2050901@prayingforisrael.net> References: <508B0681.2050901@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <508B0C20.4060501@prayingforisrael.net> On 10/26/2012 11:54 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > I just did an apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. There was a whole bunch of KDE > stuff and after the upgrade, and logging out and back in again, all my desktop settings vanished! > I was left with a brand new desktop as if I had just done a clean install (or renamed my .kde > directory). > > WARNING: Make a backup of your .kde directory before doing the update/upgrade. > I now have to rebuild my desktop back to the way I had it before :-( > > Nigel > Something else weird: before I logged out after the upgrade, I had several apps running. After logging back in and getting a brand new desktop :-( all my previous running apps were still running but not on the desktop - I mean could see them as running processes under 'System Activity' (Ctrl + Esc) but not accessible on the desktop. I had to 'kill' them in the end as I was getting window titles with the app name plus a number 2 (meaning it was the second instance of said running app). I'm not sure what is going on but maybe better to wait a while before doing any updates/upgrades. Nigel From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Fri Oct 26 22:31:27 2012 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Latest updates for 12.10 In-Reply-To: <508B0C20.4060501@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <842161824.1007668.1351290687273.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I had some problems on upgrading and wound up with a defective GUI. I went to a console and did an update and was told to apt-get --configure -a, which made a number of changes, and then did another update and upgrade which made some more changes. Things seem to be fine now. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Ridley" To: "Kubuntu user technical support" Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:18:08 PM Subject: Re: Latest updates for 12.10 On 10/26/2012 11:54 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > I just did an apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. There was a whole bunch of KDE > stuff and after the upgrade, and logging out and back in again, all my desktop settings vanished! > I was left with a brand new desktop as if I had just done a clean install (or renamed my .kde > directory). > > WARNING: Make a backup of your .kde directory before doing the update/upgrade. > I now have to rebuild my desktop back to the way I had it before :-( > > Nigel > Something else weird: before I logged out after the upgrade, I had several apps running. After logging back in and getting a brand new desktop :-( all my previous running apps were still running but not on the desktop - I mean could see them as running processes under 'System Activity' (Ctrl + Esc) but not accessible on the desktop. I had to 'kill' them in the end as I was getting window titles with the app name plus a number 2 (meaning it was the second instance of said running app). I'm not sure what is going on but maybe better to wait a while before doing any updates/upgrades. Nigel -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 22:42:21 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas G. Roufs - mobi.) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:42:21 +0200 Subject: Latest updates for 12.10 Message-ID: Hello Nigel and Everybody. In September, I added a ppa repo with a view to getting KDE Release Candidates 4.9.* - still along with Kubuntu 12.04. Apart from the problem with Kompozer, as explained recently in another thread, the upgrade went quite smoothly in my case. This has probably to do with: having the same version of KDE just before and after the upgrade; haaving done a "fresh".install of Kubuntu 12.04 about one month before upgrading. I hope this helps someone. Respectfully yours, Bas G. Roufs MA - mob. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 3514 VT UTRECHT NL, EU Mob. +316 446 83 510 Tel. +3130 785 2040 E. BasRoufs at gmail.com W. BasRoufs.eu W. Viaconsensus. nl W. Rainbowgathering. eu Nigel Ridley wrote: >I just did an apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. There was a whole bunch of KDE >stuff and after the upgrade, and logging out and back in again, all my desktop settings vanished! >I was left with a brand new desktop as if I had just done a clean install (or renamed my .kde >directory). > >WARNING: Make a backup of your .kde directory before doing the update/upgrade. >I now have to rebuild my desktop back to the way I had it before :-( > >Nigel > >-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Oct 27 01:03:46 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:03:46 -0400 Subject: Latest updates for 12.10 In-Reply-To: <508B0C20.4060501@prayingforisrael.net> References: <508B0681.2050901@prayingforisrael.net> <508B0C20.4060501@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <5753527.WbMX6I14ob@linux1> On Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:18:08 AM Nigel Ridley wrote: > Something else weird: before I logged out after the upgrade, I had several > apps running. After logging back in and getting a brand new desktop all > my previous running apps were still running but not on the desktop - I mean > could see them as running processes under 'System Activity' (Ctrl + Esc) > but not accessible on the desktop. I had to 'kill' them in the end as I was > getting window titles with the app name plus a number 2 (meaning it was the > second instance of said running app). > > I'm not sure what is going on but maybe better to wait a while before doing > any updates/upgrades. Running 12.10 AMD64 here and did all the updates as of today. No problems with the update. From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 05:42:02 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:42:02 +1000 Subject: Flow Chart Creation Message-ID: <3704664.x1pWFR4DQh@lindsay-quantal> Was looking at creating a basic flow chart to diagram some print and server processes in our office, so tried Calligra Flow. Over all a disaster. The Good - nice selection of predefined images, easily search able That was about it. The bad - Crashes constantly - Corruptions of file - Zero help or guides - Was only ever able to get the line connector to anchor the start of a line - adding text titles to an image very much hit and miss. Often the text was invisible or weirdly aligned. It has a *long* way to go, not even alpha quality. Completely unusable, should not be in any distro's yet. Looks like dia is my best bet at the moment, pedestrian, but functional. Umbrello looked quite good but unless I was missing something not suited for flow chart creation. -- Lindsay Mathieson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 06:08:05 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:08:05 +0200 Subject: Latest updates for 12.10 In-Reply-To: <508B0C20.4060501@prayingforisrael.net> References: <508B0681.2050901@prayingforisrael.net> <508B0C20.4060501@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <508B7A45.1010708@gmail.com> On 27/10/2012 00:18, Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 10/26/2012 11:54 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> I just did an apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. There >> was a whole bunch of KDE >> stuff and after the upgrade, and logging out and back in again, all my >> desktop settings vanished! >> I was left with a brand new desktop as if I had just done a clean >> install (or renamed my .kde >> directory). >> >> WARNING: Make a backup of your .kde directory before doing the >> update/upgrade. >> I now have to rebuild my desktop back to the way I had it before :-( >> >> Nigel >> > > Something else weird: before I logged out after the upgrade, I had > several apps running. After logging back in and getting a brand new > desktop :-( all my previous running apps were still running but not on > the desktop - I mean could see them as running processes under 'System > Activity' (Ctrl + Esc) but not accessible on the desktop. I had to > 'kill' them in the end as I was getting window titles with the app name > plus a number 2 (meaning it was the second instance of said running app). > > I'm not sure what is going on but maybe better to wait a while before > doing any updates/upgrades. > > Nigel > > Check that by accident you are not in another Activity than your old one - happened to me once and I recreated all, only to later find my "old desktop" in another activity. Meaning I don't use Activities so it took some time before I stumbled on it. Sinclair From gbonnema at xs4all.nl Sat Oct 27 06:42:37 2012 From: gbonnema at xs4all.nl (Guus Bonnema) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:42:37 +0200 Subject: Flow Chart Creation In-Reply-To: <3704664.x1pWFR4DQh@lindsay-quantal> References: <3704664.x1pWFR4DQh@lindsay-quantal> Message-ID: <20121027084237.4de09669@mahatma> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:42:02 +1000 Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Was looking at creating a basic flow chart to diagram some print and server > processes in our office, so tried Calligra Flow. > > Over all a disaster. > > The Good > - nice selection of predefined images, easily search able > > That was about it. > > The bad > - Crashes constantly > - Corruptions of file > - Zero help or guides > - Was only ever able to get the line connector to anchor the start of a line > - adding text titles to an image very much hit and miss. Often the text was > invisible or weirdly aligned. > > It has a *long* way to go, not even alpha quality. Completely unusable, > should not be in any distro's yet. > > Looks like dia is my best bet at the moment, pedestrian, but functional. > Umbrello looked quite good but unless I was missing something not suited for > flow chart creation. The two options that I have ever used are dia, which looks like one of the MS products. The other one is dot from Graphviz. Look for Graphviz. apt-get install graphviz graphviz-doc You might have to get used to it at first, but I have found it a real life saver. The other one (dia) is like visio. I think it is production material but I havent used it very often. You can search for packages using muon (GUI) or apt-cache (CLI). Hope this helps. Guus. From gldvorak at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 07:12:01 2012 From: gldvorak at gmail.com (George Dvorak) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:12:01 -0700 Subject: Flow Chart Creation In-Reply-To: <20121027084237.4de09669@mahatma> References: <3704664.x1pWFR4DQh@lindsay-quantal> <20121027084237.4de09669@mahatma> Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Guus Bonnema wrote: > On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:42:02 +1000 > Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > > > Was looking at creating a basic flow chart to diagram some print and > server > > processes in our office, so tried Calligra Flow. > > > > Over all a disaster. > > > > The Good > > - nice selection of predefined images, easily search able > > > > That was about it. > > > > The bad > > - Crashes constantly > > - Corruptions of file > > - Zero help or guides > > - Was only ever able to get the line connector to anchor the start of a > line > > - adding text titles to an image very much hit and miss. Often the text > was > > invisible or weirdly aligned. > > > > It has a *long* way to go, not even alpha quality. Completely unusable, > > should not be in any distro's yet. > > > > Looks like dia is my best bet at the moment, pedestrian, but functional. > > Umbrello looked quite good but unless I was missing something not suited > for > > flow chart creation. > > The two options that I have ever used are dia, which looks like one of the > MS > products. The other one is dot from Graphviz. Look for Graphviz. > > apt-get install graphviz graphviz-doc > > You might have to get used to it at first, but I have found it a real life > saver. > > The other one (dia) is like visio. I think it is production material but I > havent used it very often. > > You can search for packages using muon (GUI) or apt-cache (CLI). > > Hope this helps. > > Guus. > > I searched for *linux flowcharting** *and found some possibilities. Guus mentioned what are probably the best candidates. George > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sat Oct 27 19:31:40 2012 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:31:40 +0200 Subject: Latest updates for 12.10 In-Reply-To: <508B7A45.1010708@gmail.com> References: <508B0681.2050901@prayingforisrael.net> <508B0C20.4060501@prayingforisrael.net> <508B7A45.1010708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <508C369C.60303@prayingforisrael.net> On 10/27/2012 08:08 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 27/10/2012 00:18, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> On 10/26/2012 11:54 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>> I just did an apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. There >>> was a whole bunch of KDE >>> stuff and after the upgrade, and logging out and back in again, all my >>> desktop settings vanished! >>> I was left with a brand new desktop as if I had just done a clean >>> install (or renamed my .kde >>> directory). >>> >>> WARNING: Make a backup of your .kde directory before doing the >>> update/upgrade. >>> I now have to rebuild my desktop back to the way I had it before :-( >>> >>> Nigel >>> >> >> Something else weird: before I logged out after the upgrade, I had >> several apps running. After logging back in and getting a brand new >> desktop :-( all my previous running apps were still running but not on >> the desktop - I mean could see them as running processes under 'System >> Activity' (Ctrl + Esc) but not accessible on the desktop. I had to >> 'kill' them in the end as I was getting window titles with the app name >> plus a number 2 (meaning it was the second instance of said running app). >> >> I'm not sure what is going on but maybe better to wait a while before >> doing any updates/upgrades. >> >> Nigel >> >> > Check that by accident you are not in another Activity than your old one - happened to me once > and I recreated all, only to later find my "old desktop" in another activity. > > Meaning I don't use Activities so it took some time before I stumbled on it. > > Sinclair > No it wasn't an 'Activity'. I've reset-up my desktop now and got it back the way it was - all except the pesky Kickoff button. How can I get it back to the classic style? Nigel From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sat Oct 27 19:37:21 2012 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:37:21 +0200 Subject: Latest updates for 12.10 In-Reply-To: <508C369C.60303@prayingforisrael.net> References: <508B0681.2050901@prayingforisrael.net> <508B0C20.4060501@prayingforisrael.net> <508B7A45.1010708@gmail.com> <508C369C.60303@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <508C37F1.4000406@prayingforisrael.net> On 10/27/2012 09:31 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 10/27/2012 08:08 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 27/10/2012 00:18, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>> On 10/26/2012 11:54 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>>> I just did an apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. There >>>> was a whole bunch of KDE >>>> stuff and after the upgrade, and logging out and back in again, all my >>>> desktop settings vanished! >>>> I was left with a brand new desktop as if I had just done a clean >>>> install (or renamed my .kde >>>> directory). >>>> >>>> WARNING: Make a backup of your .kde directory before doing the >>>> update/upgrade. >>>> I now have to rebuild my desktop back to the way I had it before :-( >>>> >>>> Nigel >>>> >>> >>> Something else weird: before I logged out after the upgrade, I had >>> several apps running. After logging back in and getting a brand new >>> desktop :-( all my previous running apps were still running but not on >>> the desktop - I mean could see them as running processes under 'System >>> Activity' (Ctrl + Esc) but not accessible on the desktop. I had to >>> 'kill' them in the end as I was getting window titles with the app name >>> plus a number 2 (meaning it was the second instance of said running app). >>> >>> I'm not sure what is going on but maybe better to wait a while before >>> doing any updates/upgrades. >>> >>> Nigel >>> >>> >> Check that by accident you are not in another Activity than your old one - happened to me once >> and I recreated all, only to later find my "old desktop" in another activity. >> >> Meaning I don't use Activities so it took some time before I stumbled on it. >> >> Sinclair >> > > No it wasn't an 'Activity'. I've reset-up my desktop now and got it back the way it was - all > except the pesky Kickoff button. How can I get it back to the classic style? > > Nigel > I just checked available widgets after I sent the above message - I should have checked first - duh Anyway there is a widget named Application Launcher Menu (Traditional menu based application launcher). Nigel From basroufs at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 20:00:22 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:00:22 +0200 Subject: Latest updates for 12.10 In-Reply-To: <508C369C.60303@prayingforisrael.net> References: <508B0681.2050901@prayingforisrael.net> <508B0C20.4060501@prayingforisrael.net> <508B7A45.1010708@gmail.com> <508C369C.60303@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: How to get back the K-Menu to classical style: right -or leftclick at it; by doing so, an option will pop up to switch to classical style. Clicking at that option is enough to get what you want. Respectfully Yours, Bas Roufs. On Oct 27, 2012 9:33 PM, "Nigel Ridley" wrote: > On 10/27/2012 08:08 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> On 27/10/2012 00:18, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> >>> On 10/26/2012 11:54 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>> >>>> I just did an apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. There >>>> was a whole bunch of KDE >>>> stuff and after the upgrade, and logging out and back in again, all my >>>> desktop settings vanished! >>>> I was left with a brand new desktop as if I had just done a clean >>>> install (or renamed my .kde >>>> directory). >>>> >>>> WARNING: Make a backup of your .kde directory before doing the >>>> update/upgrade. >>>> I now have to rebuild my desktop back to the way I had it before :-( >>>> >>>> Nigel >>>> >>>> >>> Something else weird: before I logged out after the upgrade, I had >>> several apps running. After logging back in and getting a brand new >>> desktop :-( all my previous running apps were still running but not on >>> the desktop - I mean could see them as running processes under 'System >>> Activity' (Ctrl + Esc) but not accessible on the desktop. I had to >>> 'kill' them in the end as I was getting window titles with the app name >>> plus a number 2 (meaning it was the second instance of said running app). >>> >>> I'm not sure what is going on but maybe better to wait a while before >>> doing any updates/upgrades. >>> >>> Nigel >>> >>> >>> Check that by accident you are not in another Activity than your old >> one - happened to me once >> and I recreated all, only to later find my "old desktop" in another >> activity. >> >> Meaning I don't use Activities so it took some time before I stumbled on >> it. >> >> Sinclair >> >> > No it wasn't an 'Activity'. I've reset-up my desktop now and got it back > the way it was - all except the pesky Kickoff button. How can I get it back > to the classic style? > > Nigel > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun Oct 28 02:20:13 2012 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 04:20:13 +0200 Subject: Latest updates for 12.10 In-Reply-To: References: <508B0681.2050901@prayingforisrael.net> <508B0C20.4060501@prayingforisrael.net> <508B7A45.1010708@gmail.com> <508C369C.60303@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <508C965D.1050101@prayingforisrael.net> On 10/27/2012 10:00 PM, Bas Roufs wrote: > How to get back the K-Menu to classical style: > right -or leftclick at it; > by doing so, an option will pop up to switch to classical style. > Clicking at that option is enough to get what you want. > Respectfully Yours, > Bas Roufs. Not anymore! One used to be able to do that but since the latest KDE updates it's not possible anymore. One has to delete the standard one and add the alternative one from the 'Add Widgets' menu. > On Oct 27, 2012 9:33 PM, "Nigel Ridley" wrote: > >> On 10/27/2012 08:08 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> >>> On 27/10/2012 00:18, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>> >>>> On 10/26/2012 11:54 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>>> >>>>> I just did an apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. There >>>>> was a whole bunch of KDE >>>>> stuff and after the upgrade, and logging out and back in again, all my >>>>> desktop settings vanished! >>>>> I was left with a brand new desktop as if I had just done a clean >>>>> install (or renamed my .kde >>>>> directory). >>>>> >>>>> WARNING: Make a backup of your .kde directory before doing the >>>>> update/upgrade. >>>>> I now have to rebuild my desktop back to the way I had it before :-( >>>>> >>>>> Nigel >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Something else weird: before I logged out after the upgrade, I had >>>> several apps running. After logging back in and getting a brand new >>>> desktop :-( all my previous running apps were still running but not on >>>> the desktop - I mean could see them as running processes under 'System >>>> Activity' (Ctrl + Esc) but not accessible on the desktop. I had to >>>> 'kill' them in the end as I was getting window titles with the app name >>>> plus a number 2 (meaning it was the second instance of said running app). >>>> >>>> I'm not sure what is going on but maybe better to wait a while before >>>> doing any updates/upgrades. >>>> >>>> Nigel >>>> >>>> >>>> Check that by accident you are not in another Activity than your old >>> one - happened to me once >>> and I recreated all, only to later find my "old desktop" in another >>> activity. >>> >>> Meaning I don't use Activities so it took some time before I stumbled on >>> it. >>> >>> Sinclair >>> >>> >> No it wasn't an 'Activity'. I've reset-up my desktop now and got it back >> the way it was - all except the pesky Kickoff button. How can I get it back >> to the classic style? >> >> Nigel >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** >> mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > > -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ nigel at prayingforisrael.net From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 07:32:33 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:32:33 +0200 Subject: Latest updates for 12.10 In-Reply-To: <508C369C.60303@prayingforisrael.net> References: <508B0681.2050901@prayingforisrael.net> <508B0C20.4060501@prayingforisrael.net> <508B7A45.1010708@gmail.com> <508C369C.60303@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <508CDF91.5010303@gmail.com> On 27/10/2012 21:31, Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 10/27/2012 08:08 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 27/10/2012 00:18, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>> On 10/26/2012 11:54 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>>> I just did an apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade. There >>>> was a whole bunch of KDE >>>> stuff and after the upgrade, and logging out and back in again, all my >>>> desktop settings vanished! >>>> I was left with a brand new desktop as if I had just done a clean >>>> install (or renamed my .kde >>>> directory). >>>> >>>> WARNING: Make a backup of your .kde directory before doing the >>>> update/upgrade. >>>> I now have to rebuild my desktop back to the way I had it before :-( >>>> >>>> Nigel >>>> >>> >>> Something else weird: before I logged out after the upgrade, I had >>> several apps running. After logging back in and getting a brand new >>> desktop :-( all my previous running apps were still running but not on >>> the desktop - I mean could see them as running processes under 'System >>> Activity' (Ctrl + Esc) but not accessible on the desktop. I had to >>> 'kill' them in the end as I was getting window titles with the app name >>> plus a number 2 (meaning it was the second instance of said running >>> app). >>> >>> I'm not sure what is going on but maybe better to wait a while before >>> doing any updates/upgrades. >>> >>> Nigel >>> >>> >> Check that by accident you are not in another Activity than your old >> one - happened to me once >> and I recreated all, only to later find my "old desktop" in another >> activity. >> >> Meaning I don't use Activities so it took some time before I stumbled >> on it. >> >> Sinclair >> > > No it wasn't an 'Activity'. I've reset-up my desktop now and got it back > the way it was - all except the pesky Kickoff button. How can I get it > back to the classic style? > > Nigel > What I meant was to use the "meta" (windows) key + tab and check that you have by accident "landed" in a new fresh clean Activity. That happened to me and in my "old" on all my settings were happily still there. And I use the Lancelot launcher, find it way better than Kickoff From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 08:55:44 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:55:44 +1000 Subject: Flow Chart Creation In-Reply-To: <20121027084237.4de09669@mahatma> References: <3704664.x1pWFR4DQh@lindsay-quantal> <20121027084237.4de09669@mahatma> Message-ID: <2619641.5zvICSyc7F@lindsay-quantal> Thanks for the flow chart editor suggestions folks, they were most helpful. -- Lindsay Mathieson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From valtermura at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 12:18:22 2012 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:18:22 +0100 Subject: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! In-Reply-To: References: <1954231.MVqtEecvyH@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: Have you tried to add to the repos the following string: https://launchpad.net/~giuseppe-iuculano/+archive/ppa and then reload? 2012/10/24 Tom Bell > On 10/19/2012 9:55 AM, Bas Roufs -En. wrote: > >> Hello Everybody >> >> In the repository of Kubuntu 12.10, Kompozer is not there any more. The >> same >> applies apparently for other *Ubuntu distros: >> >> http://ubuntuforums.org/**showthread.php?t=2072812 >> However, I do not really understand the solution proposed there. >> >> I really URGENTLY!!! need Kompozer or some REASONABLE alternative for >> Kubuntu >> 12.10!!! I am in the middle of a project in which I cannot do without! >> Please, help! >> >> Respectfully yours, >> Bas. >> >> You might try the following: > > http://portableapps.com/apps/**development/nvu_portable > > It is the portable version of Kompozer. You can run it under > WINE and run it from a USB drive. > Good luck! > > Tom > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Brdgs, -- Valter *Open Source is better!* KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <5220722.M6vLPezO5J@viaconsensus-travel> Hello Everybody Thanks for the overwhelming response to my question in a previous thread: > Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! In the mean time, I started working with an alternative which works for now: "BlueGriffon". More about it below. I briefly go through the replies to my question. > seamonkey has kompozer So far, I did not manage to find Seamonkey - not in the repository, also not as an "add-on" to Firefox. On the other hand, I did find a reference to "NVU", which seems to be also part of "Seamonkey". However it may be, both "Kompozer" and "BlueGriffon" are forks of "NVU". Today, I found this page: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+question/187826 This page suggest some ppa which contains Seamonkey. However, my attempts to add this repo, ends up in the following error report: Failed to download http://ppa.launchpad.net/joe-nationnet/seamonkey- beta/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found > Looking at Kompozer website, checking the ppa and downloads it seems to be > "abandonware". The PPA is not flagging any versions beyond Lucid, the beta > version on website is from 2010. So I suspect it does not work with newer > *buntu versions due to some dependency or other. This observation of Sinclair has proven to be very true. Kompozer is simply very obsolete; even installing it from a debian or tar.gz package simply has no use, because of this reason. > You can of course download source and try to build it yourself but I would > look for an alternative or use 12.04 until the project in question is > finished. A thread at Ubuntu forums deals with the same Kompozer problem. There, someone pointed at the existance of "BlueGriffon" - as a part of the special respository from getdeb.net. However, the version available there is obsolete too - some complicated bug seems to make it impossible there to update it. However it may be, I am using now the newest version, installed directly from the website BlueGriffon.org. > It installed just fine on my 12.10 AMD64 system... Aptitude lists it as > available. > > aptitude search kompozer > i kompozer - complete Web Authoring System > i A kompozer-data - kompozer data files The command "aptitude search kompozer" delivers a similar result in my case. However, installing does not succeed: not via aptitude or apt-get, also not via a graphical GUI like Muon. Mike Adams summarises the problem adequately: > Just tried it, and it didn't work. I received a message saying it wasn't > located. Clay Weber wrote: > Check for Nvu which was an updated version of kompozer, it may still be > available It is even the other way around. Kompozer is a "community driven fork" of NVU, as En.Wikipedia puts it under the heading "NVU". However, both NVU and Kompozer are not any more being maintained. See also the articles in Wikipedia dedicated to both HTML editors. > but as was mentioned seamonkey has it built in. As far as I can see, also the inbuilt HTML editor of Seamonkey has been derived from NVU, but also is really out-of-date now. See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaMonkey As I said above - I even do not (yet) manage to find it - either as Firefox add-on or in the repository. > Kompozer is > pretty much just the editor part as a standalone program. According to the Seamonkey article in Wikipedia, Kompozer is planned to be integrated in the Seamonkey suite after the stable release of Kompozer 0.8 - however, that "stable release" has not been issued any more. Kompozer 0.8 was a "development release", issued in 2010. The latest "stable"version is from 2007. Moreover, "SeaMonkey" is also appearantly obsolete - given the fact it is also not any more in the regular repository. So, Sinclair is really right: Kompozer is outdated "abandonware". > most of the Mint distributions are based on Ubuntu 12.04. > I suspect going back to Ubuntu 12.04 won't solve the immediate problem of > locating Kompozer in the Ubuntu depositories. > Making a switch to Mint might be an option worth exploring. In the framework of *Ubuntu 12.04, Kompozer is still a regular part of the repository - that's why, that package still functions in *Ubuntu 12.04 and Mint, whose latest version is derived from 12.04. However, any package manager automatically removes Kompozer as an "obsolete" package when upgrading. I did successfully install a debian or tar.gz package from Kompozer in 12.10 - however the first package manager update session afterwords also ended up in removing it because of the same reason. > Try downloading kompozer the packages from the ubuntu repository [1] with > your web brrowser and installing them with dpkg -i There isn't any > specific version on the packages so it should work. > > > [1] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kompozer/ I have tried this suggestion. It does not work - probably because of the same "obsolete" problems. > I also found "BlueFish" : http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html .. "Bluefish" looks like an advanced HTML/CSS code editor which reminds me of "Quanta Plus". I have installed it simply from the repository - it might be useful in certain circumstances - especially because "Bluegriffon" is not completely open source: see -amongst others- the Wikipedia article dedicated to BlueGriffon. > You might try the following: > > http://portableapps.com/apps/development/nvu_portable > > It is the portable version of Kompozer. You can run it under > WINE and run it from a USB drive. Thanks for this advice, given with the very best intentions. Nothing against WINE or a USB drive. But it is the same obsolete abandonware, based on Kompozer 07, from 2007. > Have you tried to add to the repos the following string: > https://launchpad.net/~giuseppe-iuculano/+archive/ppa > and then reload? An attempt to add ppa:giuseppe-iuculano/ppa as a repository, ends up in the following error report: > Failed to download > http://ppa.launchpad.net/giuseppe-iuculano/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/bi > nary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found Provisional conclusion: as far as I can see now, "BlueGriffon" is at this moment the only up to date WYSIWYG editor which works under *Ubuntu 12.10 and beyond. It has been "written from scratch" in 2008 and is being maintained ever since. Apart from Kompozer, also another well-known WYSIWYG and source code editor vanished from the regular repository already about two years ago: Quanta Plus, which is stuck in the stage of KDE 3. On the other hand, the CSS-editor of BlueGriffon is a commercial "add-on" - in Kompozer, that editor was simply integrated in the package. Also a few other parts of BlueGriffon have not been open sourced: e.g. the user's manual. Seemingly the maintainer or BlueGriffon is double minded: while the core part of that package is more or less open source, essential parts of it are not. This might be one of the reasons why the latest version of BlueGriffon is still not in the regular *Ubuntu repository. To get that package, you need to download a binary installer file from BlueGriffon.org and make that one "executable" via Dolphin > Properties > permissions. On the other hand, "simple" HTML editing is possible via both the WYSIWIG and "Source" mode in BlueGriffon. CSS editing is -as far as I know now- also possible in packages like Kate and possibly Bluefish. And the documentation I have about Kompozer is still at least 80% relevant for BlueGriffon. For the web projects I am doing right now, BlueGriffon together with Kate and Bluefish are enough to successfully finish them. The same might apply for several others with similar software needs. However, on the longer run, a more structural solution is essential: + a completely open sourced version of BlueGriffon or fork from it, or...; + a completely updated, rewritten version of Kompozer or....; + a revised/ updated version of Seamonkey, with it's web editor + a completely updated version of Quanta Plus, or ......; + any other solution suiting in the newest versions of *Ubuntu and KDE. That's why I reformulate my question as follows: How to get back an an up-to-date, open source WYSIWYG webeditor in the regular *Ubuntu repository?! Please, share your suggestions and thoughts here at this forum. Thanks, respectfully yours, Bas Roufs. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands, EU E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . From clay at claydoh.com Tue Oct 30 00:53:37 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:53:37 -0400 Subject: How to get back an an up-to-date, open source WYSIWYG webeditor in the regular *Ubuntu repository?! (Was: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!!) In-Reply-To: <5220722.M6vLPezO5J@viaconsensus-travel> References: <5220722.M6vLPezO5J@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <2004719.RvrgiyTgSJ@lark-latitude-d630> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 01:07:50 AM Bas Roufs -En. wrote: > Today, I found this page: > https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+question/187826 > This page suggest some ppa which contains Seamonkey. However, my attempts to > add this repo, ends up in the following error report: > Failed to download http://ppa.launchpad.net/joe-nationnet/seamonkey- > beta/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages > 404 Not Found > > > Have you tried to add to the repos the following string: > > https://launchpad.net/~giuseppe-iuculano/+archive/ppa > > and then reload? > > An attempt to add ppa:giuseppe-iuculano/ppa as a repository, ends up in the > > following error report: > > Failed to download > > http://ppa.launchpad.net/giuseppe-iuculano/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/b > > i > > nary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found It looks like the owner of these ppa's have not yet built any packages for 12.10. > > Provisional conclusion: as far as I can see now, "BlueGriffon" is at this > moment the only up to date WYSIWYG editor which works under *Ubuntu 12.10 > and beyond. It has been "written from scratch" in 2008 and is being > maintained ever since. Apart from Kompozer, also another well-known > WYSIWYG and source code editor vanished from the regular repository already > about two years ago: Quanta Plus, which is stuck in the stage of KDE 3. > > On the other hand, the CSS-editor of BlueGriffon is a commercial "add-on" - > in Kompozer, that editor was simply integrated in the package. Also a few > other parts of BlueGriffon have not been open sourced: e.g. the user's > manual. Seemingly the maintainer or BlueGriffon is double minded: while the > core part of that package is more or less open source, essential parts of > it are not. This might be one of the reasons why the latest version of > BlueGriffon is still not in the regular *Ubuntu repository. To get that > package, you need to download a binary installer file from BlueGriffon.org > and make that one "executable" via Dolphin > Properties > permissions. This is the reviled "Open Core" model, which is pure rubbish and useless for most people :( > On the other hand, "simple" HTML editing is possible via both the WYSIWIG > and "Source" mode in BlueGriffon. CSS editing is -as far as I know now- > also possible in packages like Kate and possibly Bluefish. And the > documentation I have about Kompozer is still at least 80% relevant for > BlueGriffon. For the web projects I am doing right now, BlueGriffon > together with Kate and Bluefish are enough to successfully finish them. The > same might apply for several others with similar software needs. > > Please, share your suggestions and thoughts here at this forum. > Thanks, respectfully yours, > Bas Roufs. Libreoffice perhaps? Oooh.....actually, I think you might be better off trying to install seamonkey from here: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ubuntuzilla/index.php?title=Main_Page#Installation I just found this, and installed it, and it does run, and still has the Composer element :) -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Oct 30 03:55:35 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:55:35 -0400 Subject: How to get back an an up-to-date, open source WYSIWYG webeditor in the regular *Ubuntu repository?! (Was: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!!) In-Reply-To: <5220722.M6vLPezO5J@viaconsensus-travel> References: <5220722.M6vLPezO5J@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <2267250.hrFCsxqSxc@linux1> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 01:07:50 AM Bas Roufs -En. wrote: > > It installed just fine on my 12.10 AMD64 system... Aptitude lists it as > > available. > > > > > > > > aptitude search kompozer > > i kompozer - complete Web Authoring System > > i A kompozer-data - kompozer data files > > The command "aptitude search kompozer" delivers a similar result in my case. > However, installing does not succeed: not via aptitude or apt-get, also not > via a graphical GUI like Muon. > > Mike Adams summarises the problem adequately: > > Just tried it, and it didn't work. I received a message saying it wasn't > > located. It DID load fine on my 12.10 AMD64 machine and I just brought kompozer up for the first time since I installed it. Works like it always has and shows the files I normally work on. I see no pronblems with it. ???? In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal. From gbonnema at xs4all.nl Tue Oct 30 09:29:15 2012 From: gbonnema at xs4all.nl (Guus Bonnema) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:29:15 +0100 Subject: How to get back an an up-to-date, open source WYSIWYG webeditor in the regular *Ubuntu repository?! (Was: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!!) In-Reply-To: <5220722.M6vLPezO5J@viaconsensus-travel> References: <5220722.M6vLPezO5J@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <20121030102915.5af5a505@mahatma> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:07:50 +0100 "Bas Roufs -En." wrote: > Hello Everybody > > Thanks for the overwhelming response to my question in a previous thread: > > Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! > > However, on the longer run, a more structural solution is essential: > + a completely open sourced version of BlueGriffon or fork from it, or...; > + a completely updated, rewritten version of Kompozer or....; > + a revised/ updated version of Seamonkey, with it's web editor > + a completely updated version of Quanta Plus, or ......; > + any other solution suiting in the newest versions of *Ubuntu and KDE. > > That's why I reformulate my question as follows: > > How to get back an an up-to-date, open source WYSIWYG webeditor in the > regular *Ubuntu repository?! > Hey Bas, I am not sure whether you are a designer or a web application programmer, so you might have a different perspective. From my perspective it looks like the whole scene of web application building, including presentation is undergoing fundamental change. Starting with Ajax, HTML5 and CSS3, I expect some of the old tools to clear and new tools to start erupting. You just hit a spot in time when the old has already gone and died and the new is just too young for production. I was used to doing all coding by hand spawning html and css the way I want it to be, so I am accustomed to using bluefish or even vim for html. Recently I found that Netbeans is going to have support for html and css and probably so will eclipse. These tools are aimed at developers though, so I am not sure how useful they will be for you, when they are production ready. Do you think you could go by a temporary solution like bluefish or even bluegriffon until the new tools have matured enough for you to use them? Guus. From awdheere28 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 30 14:55:29 2012 From: awdheere28 at hotmail.com (Awdheere daahir ) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:55:29 +0000 Subject: Antw: Re: How to get back an an up-to-date, open source WYSIWYG webeditor in the regular *Ubuntu repository?! (Was: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!!) Message-ID: ---------- Verz. via Nokia E-mail -----Original Message----- From: Guus Bonnema Sent: 10/30/2012 9:29:15 AM To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Cc: Bas Roufs -En. Subject: Re: How to get back an an up-to-date, open source WYSIWYG webeditor in the regular *Ubuntu repository?! (Was: Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!!) On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:07:50 +0100 "Bas Roufs -En." wrote: > Hello Everybody > > Thanks for the overwhelming response to my question in a previous thread: > > Urgent. How to get Kompozer or alternative for Kubuntu 12.10???!!! > > However, on the longer run, a more structural solution is essential: > + a completely open sourced version of BlueGriffon or fork from it, or...; > + a completely updated, rewritten version of Kompozer or....; > + a revised/ updated version of Seamonkey, with it's web editor > + a completely updated version of Quanta Plus, or ......; > + any other solution suiting in the newest versions of *Ubuntu and KDE. > > That's why I reformulate my question as follows: > > How to get back an an up-to-date, open source WYSIWYG webeditor in the > regular *Ubuntu repository?! > Hey Bas, I am not sure whether you are a designer or a web application programmer, so you might have a different perspective. >From my perspective it looks like the whole scene of web application building, including presentation is undergoing fundamental change. Starting with Ajax, HTML5 and CSS3, I expect some of the old tools to clear and new tools to start erupting. You just hit a spot in time when the old has already gone and died and the new is just too young for production. I was used to doing all coding by hand spawning html and css the way I want it to be, so I am accustomed to using bluefish or even vim for html. Recently I found that Netbeans is going to have support for html and css and probably so will eclipse. These tools are aimed at developers though, so I am not sure how useful they will be for you, when they are production ready. Do you think you could go by a temporary solution like bluefish or even bluegriffon until the new tools have matured enough for you to use them? Guus. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phb at hbsys.plus.com Tue Oct 30 16:01:12 2012 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:01:12 +0000 Subject: Disks package Message-ID: <508FF9C8.1030702@hbsys.plus.com> Hello All, does anyone know where the useful package "disks" went with 12.12. I still have it on an upgraded machine, but it's not available with a fresh install. Peter HB From steve at rileyz.net Tue Oct 30 17:06:49 2012 From: steve at rileyz.net (Steve Riley) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:06:49 -0700 Subject: Disks package In-Reply-To: <508FF9C8.1030702@hbsys.plus.com> References: <508FF9C8.1030702@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: <2732592.sDv7NHhIRp@x1> On 2012-10-30 16:01:12 Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > > Hello All, > > does anyone know where the useful package "disks" went with 12.12. I > still have it on an upgraded machine, but it's not available with a > fresh install. Checking the package search function at Ubuntu shows no package called "disks." Can you tell us more about what that is? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=disks&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all ...Steve From james.cain.25 at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 17:10:00 2012 From: james.cain.25 at gmail.com (James Cain) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:10:00 -0400 Subject: Latest updates for 12.10 In-Reply-To: <508CDF91.5010303@gmail.com> References: <508B0681.2050901@prayingforisrael.net> <508B0C20.4060501@prayingforisrael.net> <508B7A45.1010708@gmail.com> <508C369C.60303@prayingforisrael.net> <508CDF91.5010303@gmail.com> Message-ID: For those looking for a full screen launcher (similar to MacOS) there is the Homerun launcher which I use from Blue Systems. Just throwing it out there that there ARE lots of options in Kubuntuland. http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=226&t=107239 -- James Cain -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phb at hbsys.plus.com Tue Oct 30 18:23:47 2012 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:23:47 +0000 Subject: Disks package In-Reply-To: <2732592.sDv7NHhIRp@x1> References: <508FF9C8.1030702@hbsys.plus.com> <2732592.sDv7NHhIRp@x1> Message-ID: <50901B33.9020800@hbsys.plus.com> On 30/10/12 17:06, Steve Riley wrote: > On 2012-10-30 16:01:12 Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >> >> Hello All, >> >> does anyone know where the useful package "disks" went with 12.12. I >> still have it on an upgraded machine, but it's not available with a >> fresh install. > > Checking the package search function at Ubuntu shows no package called > "disks." Can you tell us more about what that is? Yes I know, which is why I raised the query. I think that the package was originally named "disk-utils", but Kubuntu called it " disks" in 12.04. It's a utility that looks at the disk hardware in a given machine and produces useful info regarding physical details of the disks, partitioning, file system formats etc.. Peter HB From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 18:56:54 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:56:54 +0200 Subject: Disks package In-Reply-To: <50901B33.9020800@hbsys.plus.com> References: <508FF9C8.1030702@hbsys.plus.com> <2732592.sDv7NHhIRp@x1> <50901B33.9020800@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: <509022F6.4080306@gmail.com> On 30/10/2012 20:23, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > On 30/10/12 17:06, Steve Riley wrote: >> On 2012-10-30 16:01:12 Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> does anyone know where the useful package "disks" went with 12.12. I >>> still have it on an upgraded machine, but it's not available with a >>> fresh install. >> >> Checking the package search function at Ubuntu shows no package called >> "disks." Can you tell us more about what that is? > > Yes I know, which is why I raised the query. I think that the package > was originally named "disk-utils", but Kubuntu called it " disks" in > 12.04. It's a utility that looks at the disk hardware in a given machine > and produces useful info regarding physical details of the disks, > partitioning, file system formats etc.. > I can not find any such package here on my 12.04 install?? fdisk, udisk etc but no disks?? /Sinclair From coss_michael at yahoo.com Tue Oct 30 21:15:18 2012 From: coss_michael at yahoo.com (Mike Adams) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Disks package In-Reply-To: <509022F6.4080306@gmail.com> References: <508FF9C8.1030702@hbsys.plus.com> <2732592.sDv7NHhIRp@x1> <50901B33.9020800@hbsys.plus.com> <509022F6.4080306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1351631718.13018.YahooMailNeo@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> On 30/10/2012 20:23, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > O. Sinclair wrote: >> Yes I know, which is why I raised the query. I think that the package >> was originally named "disk-utils", but Kubuntu called it " disks" in >> 12.04. It's a utility that looks at the disk hardware in a given machine >> and produces useful info regarding physical details of the disks, >> partitioning, file system formats etc.. > > I can not find any such package here on my 12.04 install?? fdisk, udisk > etc but no disks?? Try looking for "disk utility" in the software center.  That's where I found it. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phil_lor at bigpond.com Wed Oct 31 00:36:20 2012 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:36:20 +1000 Subject: Help file not being displayed Message-ID: <50907284.7070405@bigpond.com> Thank you for reading this. I have two Linux distributions installed and have been using one of them for around 15 years so I've become comfortable with it. The second one, Kubuntu 12.10, has been installed since the day that it became available. I have Viking, a GPS application, installed (both the Ubuntu binary and a self compiled version. Neither of these will display the help file yet the help files for both are installed. The binarie's help file is located at /usr/share/gnome/help/C/viking and the self compiled version under /usr/local/. The same Viking application is installed under my other distribution (usr/local/) where the help file is correctly displayed by pressing "help" or F1. I've searched the package manager and Google for any Gnome files that I might be missing but nothing obvious has showed up. What might I be missing? -- Regards, Phil From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 07:37:29 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:37:29 +0200 Subject: Strange Akonadi/Nepomuk problem Message-ID: <5090D539.8050408@gmail.com> Since Friday I am having a strange problem. Am using Kubuntu 12.04 with KDE SC 4.9.2 and have had no problems with Semantic Desktop or Kontact/KMail for quite some time. Meaning files are indexed, I can search, the "timelines" in Dolphin worked just fine (Today, Yesterday and so on). In KMail address autocompletion, Search etc worked. But after a freeze suddenly no joy. From earlier experience I stopped akonadi, removed the nepomuk folder (.kde/share/apps/nepomuk) restarted akonadi and sat back while reindexing took place. But for the first time this did not fully work. KMail works as expected but the systray "Desktop Search File Indexing" insists it is idle (even when it slowly reported increasing numbers of indexed file). In Krunner search for files only seems to work with files I have recently edited. In Dolphin the same and the "timelines" report like 3-4 files, searching for files give no result on files that have not been "touched" since the crash. Anyone have an idea of what I can do to get the search functions back now that I had actually gotten used to them... Kind regards Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 07:54:03 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:54:03 +0200 Subject: Strange Akonadi/Nepomuk problem In-Reply-To: <5090D539.8050408@gmail.com> References: <5090D539.8050408@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5090D91B.7010501@gmail.com> On 31/10/2012 09:37, O. Sinclair wrote: > Since Friday I am having a strange problem. Am using Kubuntu 12.04 with > KDE SC 4.9.2 and have had no problems with Semantic Desktop or > Kontact/KMail for quite some time. > > Meaning files are indexed, I can search, the "timelines" in Dolphin > worked just fine (Today, Yesterday and so on). In KMail address > autocompletion, Search etc worked. > > But after a freeze suddenly no joy. From earlier experience I stopped > akonadi, removed the nepomuk folder (.kde/share/apps/nepomuk) restarted > akonadi and sat back while reindexing took place. > > But for the first time this did not fully work. KMail works as expected > but the systray "Desktop Search File Indexing" insists it is idle (even > when it slowly reported increasing numbers of indexed file). In Krunner > search for files only seems to work with files I have recently edited. > In Dolphin the same and the "timelines" report like 3-4 files, searching > for files give no result on files that have not been "touched" since the > crash. > > Anyone have an idea of what I can do to get the search functions back > now that I had actually gotten used to them... > Think I found the problem and is kind of embarrassing but as it might help others: in the Desktop Search Settings somehow just a fraction of the subfolders in my HOME was chosen, how that happened I have no idea. Indexing is now active and I can see more and more files in Dolphin search.... /Sinclair From valtermura at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 12:46:31 2012 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:46:31 +0100 Subject: Strange Akonadi/Nepomuk problem In-Reply-To: <5090D91B.7010501@gmail.com> References: <5090D539.8050408@gmail.com> <5090D91B.7010501@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2012/10/31 O. Sinclair > On 31/10/2012 09:37, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> Since Friday I am having a strange problem. Am using Kubuntu 12.04 with >> KDE SC 4.9.2 and have had no problems with Semantic Desktop or >> Kontact/KMail for quite some time. >> >> Meaning files are indexed, I can search, the "timelines" in Dolphin >> worked just fine (Today, Yesterday and so on). In KMail address >> autocompletion, Search etc worked. >> >> But after a freeze suddenly no joy. From earlier experience I stopped >> akonadi, removed the nepomuk folder (.kde/share/apps/nepomuk) restarted >> akonadi and sat back while reindexing took place. >> >> But for the first time this did not fully work. KMail works as expected >> but the systray "Desktop Search File Indexing" insists it is idle (even >> when it slowly reported increasing numbers of indexed file). In Krunner >> search for files only seems to work with files I have recently edited. >> In Dolphin the same and the "timelines" report like 3-4 files, searching >> for files give no result on files that have not been "touched" since the >> crash. >> >> Anyone have an idea of what I can do to get the search functions back >> now that I had actually gotten used to them... >> >> Think I found the problem and is kind of embarrassing but as it might > help others: in the Desktop Search Settings somehow just a fraction of the > subfolders in my HOME was chosen, how that happened I have no idea. > Indexing is now active and I can see more and more files in Dolphin > search.... > > So, we can suppose it was a problem with "personal" settings and not an Akonadi/Nepomuk bug. Good news to hear :) Ciao -- Valter *Open Source is better!* KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 13:42:51 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:42:51 +0200 Subject: Strange Akonadi/Nepomuk problem In-Reply-To: References: <5090D539.8050408@gmail.com> <5090D91B.7010501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <50912ADB.2050309@gmail.com> On 31/10/2012 14:46, Valter Mura wrote: > 2012/10/31 O. Sinclair > > > On 31/10/2012 09:37, O. Sinclair wrote: > > Since Friday I am having a strange problem. Am using Kubuntu > 12.04 with > KDE SC 4.9.2 and have had no problems with Semantic Desktop or > Kontact/KMail for quite some time. > > Meaning files are indexed, I can search, the "timelines" in Dolphin > worked just fine (Today, Yesterday and so on). In KMail address > autocompletion, Search etc worked. > > But after a freeze suddenly no joy. From earlier experience I > stopped > akonadi, removed the nepomuk folder (.kde/share/apps/nepomuk) > restarted > akonadi and sat back while reindexing took place. > > But for the first time this did not fully work. KMail works as > expected > but the systray "Desktop Search File Indexing" insists it is > idle (even > when it slowly reported increasing numbers of indexed file). In > Krunner > search for files only seems to work with files I have recently > edited. > In Dolphin the same and the "timelines" report like 3-4 files, > searching > for files give no result on files that have not been "touched" > since the > crash. > > Anyone have an idea of what I can do to get the search functions > back > now that I had actually gotten used to them... > > Think I found the problem and is kind of embarrassing but as it > might help others: in the Desktop Search Settings somehow just a > fraction of the subfolders in my HOME was chosen, how that happened > I have no idea. Indexing is now active and I can see more and more > files in Dolphin search.... > > > So, we can suppose it was a problem with "personal" settings and not an > Akonadi/Nepomuk bug. Good news to hear :) > Yes, only thing I do not understand how those settings got changed.... From phb at hbsys.plus.com Wed Oct 31 14:07:58 2012 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:07:58 +0000 Subject: Disks package In-Reply-To: <1351631718.13018.YahooMailNeo@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <508FF9C8.1030702@hbsys.plus.com> <2732592.sDv7NHhIRp@x1> <50901B33.9020800@hbsys.plus.com> <509022F6.4080306@gmail.com> <1351631718.13018.YahooMailNeo@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <509130BE.4040209@hbsys.plus.com> On 30/10/12 21:15, Mike Adams wrote: > > On 30/10/2012 20:23, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > > O. Sinclair wrote: > > >> Yes I know, which is why I raised the query. I think that the package > >> was originally named "disk-utils", but Kubuntu called it " disks" in > >> 12.04. It's a utility that looks at the disk hardware in a given machine > >> and produces useful info regarding physical details of the disks, > >> partitioning, file system formats etc.. > > > > I can not find any such package here on my 12.04 install?? fdisk, udisk > > etc but no disks?? > > Try looking for "disk utility" in the software center. That's where I > found it. > > Mike Thanks, Mike. That solved my problem, although I remain puzzled as to why the utility doesn't appear in the repositories via Synaptic, from whence I initially installed it in 12.04. Regards Peter HB From myriam at kde.org Wed Oct 31 15:44:42 2012 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:44:42 +0100 Subject: Disks package In-Reply-To: <509130BE.4040209@hbsys.plus.com> References: <508FF9C8.1030702@hbsys.plus.com> <2732592.sDv7NHhIRp@x1> <50901B33.9020800@hbsys.plus.com> <509022F6.4080306@gmail.com> <1351631718.13018.YahooMailNeo@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <509130BE.4040209@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: Hi Peter, On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > On 30/10/12 21:15, Mike Adams wrote: >> >> >> On 30/10/2012 20:23, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >> > O. Sinclair wrote: ... > Thanks, Mike. That solved my problem, although I remain puzzled as to why > the utility doesn't appear in the repositories via Synaptic, from whence I > initially installed it in 12.04. You could not find it as the package name is not disks, but gnome-disk-utility. so you should have maybe searched with disk*, that at least does show up here with "apt-cache search" and "aptitude search", although buried in a big pile of other packages. FWIW: it does nothing more than the partition manager in KDE's System Settings (actually, even less), and there is a much nicer tool for KDE that shows you the disk usage in a graphical view: filelight Regards, Myriam. -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From coss_michael at yahoo.com Wed Oct 31 16:55:02 2012 From: coss_michael at yahoo.com (Mike Adams) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Disks package In-Reply-To: <509130BE.4040209@hbsys.plus.com> References: <508FF9C8.1030702@hbsys.plus.com> <2732592.sDv7NHhIRp@x1> <50901B33.9020800@hbsys.plus.com> <509022F6.4080306@gmail.com> <1351631718.13018.YahooMailNeo@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <509130BE.4040209@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: <1351702502.77261.YahooMailNeo@web161406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> On 30/10/12 21:15, Mike Adams wrote: >> Try looking for "disk utility" in the software center.  That's where I >> found it. > >> Mike > Thanks, Mike. That solved my problem, although I remain puzzled as to > why the utility doesn't appear in the repositories via Synaptic, from > whence I initially installed it in 12.04. Synaptic has it under "gnome-disk-utility" (at least my Synaptic does).  I guess the hyphens play around with the search engine's capability of locating it. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phb at hbsys.plus.com Wed Oct 31 17:11:21 2012 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:11:21 +0000 Subject: Disks package In-Reply-To: References: <508FF9C8.1030702@hbsys.plus.com> <2732592.sDv7NHhIRp@x1> <50901B33.9020800@hbsys.plus.com> <509022F6.4080306@gmail.com> <1351631718.13018.YahooMailNeo@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <509130BE.4040209@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: <50915BB9.2000704@hbsys.plus.com> On 31/10/12 15:44, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Peter, > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >> On 30/10/12 21:15, Mike Adams wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 30/10/2012 20:23, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >>> > O. Sinclair wrote: > ... > >> Thanks, Mike. That solved my problem, although I remain puzzled as to why >> the utility doesn't appear in the repositories via Synaptic, from whence I >> initially installed it in 12.04. > > You could not find it as the package name is not disks, but > gnome-disk-utility. so you should have maybe searched with disk*, that > at least does show up here with "apt-cache search" and "aptitude > search", although buried in a big pile of other packages. Yes, I found it once you pointed out the "gnome" prefix. As a KDE aficionado I wasn't looking for a gnome connotation. ;-) > FWIW: it does nothing more than the partition manager in KDE's System > Settings (actually, even less), Not quite. There's very little hardware information - as would be expected in a partitioning tool. > and there is a much nicer tool for KDE > that shows you the disk usage in a graphical view: filelight but only for the currently in use disk, unless I missed something during a quick examination and again, it's file system orientated, not hardware, but thanks for the pointers. Peter HB. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Wed Oct 31 18:04:49 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:04:49 -0400 Subject: Disks package In-Reply-To: <50915BB9.2000704@hbsys.plus.com> References: <508FF9C8.1030702@hbsys.plus.com> <50915BB9.2000704@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: <71145772.q1GUrlsbH9@linux1> On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 05:11:21 PM Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > > FWIW: it does nothing more than the partition manager in KDE's System > > Settings (actually, even less), > > Not quite. There's very little hardware information - as would be > expected in a partitioning tool. Another tool you might like is "hwinfo" Gives you a lot of info about any hardware. "Maybe this world is another planet's hell." - Aldous Huxley From phb at hbsys.plus.com Wed Oct 31 20:54:24 2012 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:54:24 +0000 Subject: Disks package In-Reply-To: <71145772.q1GUrlsbH9@linux1> References: <508FF9C8.1030702@hbsys.plus.com> <50915BB9.2000704@hbsys.plus.com> <71145772.q1GUrlsbH9@linux1> Message-ID: <50919000.6090300@hbsys.plus.com> On 31/10/12 18:04, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 05:11:21 PM Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >>> FWIW: it does nothing more than the partition manager in KDE's System >>> Settings (actually, even less), >> >> Not quite. There's very little hardware information - as would be >> expected in a partitioning tool. > > Another tool you might like is "hwinfo" > > Gives you a lot of info about any hardware. Now that's an impressive tool! Many thanks for the pointer. Peter HB