Update to the Community
Juan R. de Silva
juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com
Wed May 30 03:34:10 UTC 2012
On Mon, 28 May 2012 20:37:43 -0500, Ryan Gauger wrote:
> On 05/28/2012 06:14 PM, David Wonderly wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone.
>>
>> I know that it has been a while since I have made any updates to you
>> guys.
>>
>> Earlier this month, developer Jonathan Riddle and I were both at UDS
>> (Ubuntu Developer Summit) and during that time we had a meeting with
>> Canonical about the trademark. While not all of the paperwork is signed
>> or finalized just yet, I wanted to update everyone on what happened and
>> where we are at in this Trademark thing.
>>
>> For starters, I know that there has been a lot of talk about changing
>> the name of Kubuntu. As of right now there are plans to change the
>> name. Any name change talks were to prepare for a worst case scenario.
>> Seeing how well the talks went with Canonical, I cannot see any reasons
>> we would change our name.
>>
>> Another thing I want address and make very clear is the role Blue
>> Systems is playing in Kubuntu.
>>
>> Blue Systems is a small company that is paying people to develop key
>> pieces of the KDE ecosphere. This means that their role is a monetary
>> role. They are helping to sponsor the development of Kubuntu with the
>> hiring of Jonathan Riddell. Kubuntu is still sponsored by Canonical as
>> well.
>>
>> Now I can hear everyone now, "But didn't they drop sponsorship of
>> Kubuntu that started this whole thing?"
>>
>> Sort of.
>>
>> What Canonical dropped was COMMERCIAL support of Kubuntu. This means
>> that companies can no longer buy paid support from Canonical for
>> Kubuntu. It means that Jonathan Riddell was going to be reassigned
>> within the Desktop Team at Canonical. And lastly, it means that
>> Canonical will no longer be making Swag or Pressed CDs for Kubuntu.
>>
>> Canonical still pays for a lot in Kubuntu. The hosting of code and
>> providing the infastructer that we have, provides the iso spinning
>> services, QA tools, sponsorships to UDS, Trakemark fees for 33
>> countries for the name Kubuntu (not just under the *buntu protection
>> but, full on Kubuntu) and lastly, the legal protection for all of this.
>>
>> So as you can see, our relationship has not chnaged all that much
>> within the Kubuntu/Canonical relations. Yes, there has been some
>> changes but, there are benifits to the changing as well and I firmly
>> believe that the benifits greatly outweigh anything else.
>>
>> There are talks about Kubuntu being able to create a non profit
>> foundation to become a legal entity. This will allow the Kubuntu
>> council to push Kubuntu to new heighths and also allow us to do a few
>> very important things. it will allow us to build a Kubuntu store and it
>> will also allow us to take donations, money to be placed in a budget
>> and receive finactial support.
>>
>> From a developers view, we are moving from the msin repositories and
>> inti universe. This will give us more freedom of what we can include
>> into our distro.
>>
>> Overall, I think we can all see how much better and stronger we can be
>> when this is all said and done. Working together, I am beyond confident
>> that not only can we make Kubuntu the best KDE distro on the planet
>> but, we can put Kubuntu on the map in very large ways.
>>
>> Another amazing thing that happened is that Kubuntu was given an HUGE
>> opportunity to push Kubuntu Active (KDE Plasma Active for tablet) onto
>> actual tablet hardware.
>>
>> ZaReason is a company here in the US that builds and ships computers
>> with Linux, Ubuntu and distros, preinstalled. Later this year, they
>> will be selling the ZaTab. It's a tablet with the same size and feel of
>> the iPad2. It already will be shipping with CyanogenMod 9 on it. Well,
>> we were given a couple of these tablets to development reasons so that
>> we can also give them the option to ship Kubuntu Active 12.10 on them
>> at the end of the year. This is very very exciting for us as it moves
>> us ahead in the tablet ready distros.
>>
>> If you have any questions please, feel free to ask them.
>>
>> Cheers all!
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
> Does this mean that I will no longer be able to purchase Kubuntu
> pens/stickers/shirts in the Canonical Store as well? If not, I'm glad I
> bought some Kubuntu merchandise already! Thanks! <html>
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> On 05/28/2012 06:14 PM, David Wonderly wrote: <blockquote
> cite="mid:1679029.OkPhZlXy5K at wing" type="cite">
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> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Hey everyone.</span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
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> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">I know that it has been a
> while since I have made any updates to you guys.</span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Earlier this month, developer
> Jonathan Riddle and I were both at UDS (Ubuntu Developer
> Summit) and during that time we had a meeting with Canonical
> about the trademark. While not all of the paperwork is signed
> or finalized just yet, I wanted to update everyone on what
> happened and where we are at in this Trademark
> thing.</span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">For starters, I know that
> there has been a lot of talk about changing the name of
> Kubuntu. As of right now there are plans to change the name.
> Any name change talks were to prepare for a worst case
> scenario. Seeing how well the talks went with Canonical, I
> cannot see any reasons we would change our name.</span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Another thing I want address
> and make very clear is the role Blue Systems is playing in
> Kubuntu.</span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Blue Systems is a small
> company that is paying people to develop key pieces of the KDE
> ecosphere. This means that their role is a monetary role. They
> are helping to sponsor the development of Kubuntu with the
> hiring of Jonathan Riddell. Kubuntu is still sponsored by
> Canonical as well. </span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Now I can hear everyone now,
> "But didn't they drop sponsorship of Kubuntu that started this
> whole thing?" </span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Sort of.</span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">What Canonical dropped was
> COMMERCIAL support of Kubuntu. This means that companies can
> no longer buy paid support from Canonical for Kubuntu. It
> means that Jonathan Riddell was going to be reassigned within
> the Desktop Team at Canonical. And lastly, it means that
> Canonical will no longer be making Swag or Pressed CDs for
> Kubuntu.</span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Canonical still pays for a lot
> in Kubuntu. The hosting of code and providing the infastructer
> that we have, provides the iso spinning services, QA tools,
> sponsorships to UDS, Trakemark fees for 33 countries for the
> name Kubuntu (not just under the *buntu protection but, full
> on Kubuntu) and lastly, the legal protection for all of
> this.</span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">So as you can see, our
> relationship has not chnaged all that much within the
> Kubuntu/Canonical relations. Yes, there has been some changes
> but, there are benifits to the changing as well and I firmly
> believe that the benifits greatly outweigh anything
> else.</span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">There are talks about Kubuntu
> being able to create a non profit foundation to become a legal
> entity. This will allow the Kubuntu council to push Kubuntu to
> new heighths and also allow us to do a few very important
> things. it will allow us to build a Kubuntu store and it will
> also allow us to take donations, money to be placed in a
> budget and receive finactial support. </span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">From a developers view, we are
> moving from the msin repositories and inti universe. This will
> give us more freedom of what we can include into our distro.
> </span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Overall, I think we can all
> see how much better and stronger we can be when this is all
> said and done. Working together, I am beyond confident that
> not only can we make Kubuntu the best KDE distro on the planet
> but, we can put Kubuntu on the map in very large
> ways.</span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Another amazing thing that
> happened is that Kubuntu was given an HUGE opportunity to push
> Kubuntu Active (KDE Plasma Active for tablet) onto actual
> tablet hardware. </span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">ZaReason is a company here in
> the US that builds and ships computers with Linux, Ubuntu and
> distros, preinstalled. Later this year, they will be selling
> the ZaTab. It's a tablet with the same size and feel of the
> iPad2. It already will be shipping with CyanogenMod 9 on it.
> Well, we were given a couple of these tablets to development
> reasons so that we can also give them the option to ship
> Kubuntu Active 12.10 on them at the end of the year. This is
> very very exciting for us as it moves us ahead in the tablet
> ready distros. </span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">If you have any questions
> please, feel free to ask them.</span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Cheers all!</span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
> margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
> margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
> -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
> font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Dave</span></p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
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> -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
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> </blockquote>
> Does this mean that I will no longer be able to purchase Kubuntu
> pens/stickers/shirts in the Canonical Store as well? If not, I'm
> glad I bought some Kubuntu merchandise already! Thanks!<br>
> </body>
> </html>
I wonder if it is really so difficult to stop posting in HTML? It's quite
impossible to read your posts.
Basically you hurt yourself, since a lot of Linux users just ignore such
posts.
Thank you.
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