Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11

[Basil Chupin]

On 12/05/12 16:15, O. Sinclair wrote:
> On 12/05/12 07:57, Basil Chupin wrote:
>> On 12/05/12 07:43, ray burke wrote:
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: ray burke<rayburke30 at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000
>>> Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11
>>> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>
>>> Can anyone help please-
>>>
>>> I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but
>>> after i rebooted and started ff11 when
>>> i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11
>>> attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my
>>> k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so
>>> how do I stop it updating to ff11,
>>> showing within my kpakagekit? see attached
>>
>> Ray,
>>
>> If I read what you say above correctly, you are still using v10.10 of
>> Kubuntu, right?
>>
>> If so then you ought to know that support by Canonical for 10.10 stopped
>> in April - and it is now May. (You would have received and e-mail
>> advising you about the EOL of 10.10 some time ago.)
>>
>> You should be upgrading to at least the next version of Kubuntu, which
>> is 11.04 - but keep it mind that this 11.04 will reach EOL (End Of Life)
>> this coming October - ie, in 5 months time.
>>
>> You should also know that Firefox is now currently at version 12
>> (officially - but unofficially at v15 if you use the knightly builds).
>> The upgrades since v9 which you are running contain many fixes including
>> security fixes.
>>
>> Therefore you would be wise to upgrade your Kubuntu which would also
>> upgrade your Firefox.
>>
>> BC
>>
> Wise or not wise could depend on hardware and other issues. In my 
> experience older hardware do better with older versions of linux. That 
> has actually been confirmed by tests done by Phoronix where "sandy 
> bridge" et al do better with 12.04 but hardware older than that do 
> better with 10.10.
>
> So I would say (and I live by this rule myself): don't upgrade what 
> works for the user. I have 3 laptops in the house and there is no 
> question about it: the older ones run happier on older releases. The 
> newest will not even work (graphic driver issues) on anything older 
> than 11.04.
>
> Just a word on "it is always better to upgrade". Nope it aint, 
> upgrades can break working software/hardware relations. Linux may be 
> brilliant but regressions are not exactly uncommon.

Until just a few weeks ago - when I built for myself a new 64-bit system 
- I was using a 32-bit system which I built ~7 years ago.

In that period I have used/installed quite a number of Linux distros and 
have never really had any hassles with any of them. Sure, when trying 
out some beta, or something earlier, then I could get into a hassle - as 
expected when you dealing with something like a beta - but nothing was 
ever "fatal"; annoying yes, but not "fatal".

Perhaps it could be said that for some 7 years I led a 'magical' life 
with little problems re Linux software - ESPECIALLY as I am a 
"always-keeping-up-to-date" freak. If it is the latest, I will install it.

While you are correct in saying that, "If it ain't broke don't fix it", 
you surely have to acknowledge that when a system is declared as no 
longer supported and that some application has been upgraded because of 
security (and other) reasons then it is time to "move with the times" 
and install the latest software?

Or are you happy to argue that running Kubuntu version 5.04 is quite 
acceptable? Or having Windows 3.1.1 still acceptable to run by those who 
are MS zealots?

The OP said that he is running Kubuntu 10.10 which has now reached its 
EOL. He is also using Firefox 9 (latest version 12, with 15.0.x being 
tested). And with this combination he is having problems.

He may be having hassles because what he tried to update did not agree 
with the now unsupported Kubuntu 10.10. I don't really know, but it is a 
possibility.

To find which is the case he should upgrade from Kubuntu 10.10 - and see 
if his system cannot handle it; in which case he can then decide why 
this is so and ask questions about how to go about solving his problem. 
I say this because I don't believe that Ray can be using such an ancient 
computer which could not handle something like Kubuntu v 11.04 at least. 
If it now handling 10.10 then it can handle 11.04.


BC