From gbonnema at xs4all.nl Tue May 1 06:11:21 2012 From: gbonnema at xs4all.nl (Guus) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 08:11:21 +0200 Subject: Activities vs. virtual desktops In-Reply-To: <2097004.yecreVlyQD@earthworm> References: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop> <2097004.yecreVlyQD@earthworm> Message-ID: <4F9F7E89.7020303@xs4all.nl> On 29/04/12 17:20, Anj Tuesday wrote: > Am Sonntag, 29. April 2012, 17:37:09 schrieb Georgi Kourtev: >> Hi all. Can anyone explain me what is the difference between the >> 'Activities' and 'virtual desktops'? It seems quite the same for me and >> difficult to understand what is the value of using one against the other. > Each activity has its own set of widgets and its own wallpaper(s), and each > activity can automatically restore a set of running applications that is > specific to it but not to other activities. > > If virtual desktops are like swivelling around in your office chair and facing > a different desk, activities are like going into an entirely different > room with different tools and projects ready to be worked with. > > When it works, it's a simple way to switch between projects without bringing > all the other clutter along. Thank you very much for this explanation. I never understood what activities were actually for, but your metaphore seems quite clear. Thank you. > Yes, virtual desktops can be used in such a manner *to an extent*, too. > But I've come to appreciate to have an "general internet laziness" activity > and a "translation work" activity and a "replaying Ultima IV" activity, > for example. > > Anja > -- Kind regards, Guus Bonnema. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue May 1 12:45:43 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 14:45:43 +0200 Subject: Activities vs. virtual desktops In-Reply-To: <4F9F7E89.7020303@xs4all.nl> References: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop> <2097004.yecreVlyQD@earthworm> <4F9F7E89.7020303@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <4F9FDAF7.2050405@gmail.com> On 01/05/12 08:11, Guus wrote: > On 29/04/12 17:20, Anj Tuesday wrote: >> Am Sonntag, 29. April 2012, 17:37:09 schrieb Georgi Kourtev: >>> Hi all. Can anyone explain me what is the difference between the >>> 'Activities' and 'virtual desktops'? It seems quite the same for me and >>> difficult to understand what is the value of using one against the >>> other. >> Each activity has its own set of widgets and its own wallpaper(s), and >> each >> activity can automatically restore a set of running applications that is >> specific to it but not to other activities. >> >> If virtual desktops are like swivelling around in your office chair >> and facing >> a different desk, activities are like going into an entirely different >> room with different tools and projects ready to be worked with. >> >> When it works, it's a simple way to switch between projects without >> bringing >> all the other clutter along. > Thank you very much for this explanation. I never understood what > activities were actually for, but your metaphore seems quite clear. > Thank you. > >> Yes, virtual desktops can be used in such a manner *to an extent*, too. >> But I've come to appreciate to have an "general internet laziness" >> activity >> and a "translation work" activity and a "replaying Ultima IV" activity, >> for example. >> I think if you search on "kde activities blog" you will get a number of links to blogs that try to explain both how to set up and work with activities. To me they are largely pointless as I do not have that kind of workflow, for me Virtual Desktops work better. Which does not mean I do not see the value, I just don't use them myself. AND there are some annoying bugs, at least the times I have tried. Regards, Sinclair From antonxx at gmx.de Tue May 1 20:49:18 2012 From: antonxx at gmx.de (Anton) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 22:49:18 +0200 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 Message-ID: Hi, I used KMail since I uses KDE (first Suse then Kubuntu). But starting with KMail2 in Kubuntu 11.10 I got to much problems and I switched to Thunderbird. Now my question: does anybody still use KMail2 and if yes, does it work now in 12.04. Thanks Anton From stvrly at gmail.com Tue May 1 21:03:51 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 14:03:51 -0700 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3584936.RluLK8RvXr@t520> On 2012-05-01 22:49:18 Anton wrote: > > Now my question: does anybody still use KMail2 and if yes, > does it work now in 12.04. KMail is now working very well for me, using IMAP to GMail. As an experiment, I switched the Akonadi backend from MySQL to SQLite, and this has made KMail feel subjectively smoother. Prior versions didn't handle SQLite so well, but those problems appear to be fixed. ...Steve From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Tue May 1 21:53:14 2012 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 23:53:14 +0200 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1733114.ZBEevsIjz4@earthworm> Am Dienstag, 1. Mai 2012, 22:49:18 schrieb Anton: > Hi, > > I used KMail since I uses KDE (first Suse then Kubuntu). > But starting with KMail2 in Kubuntu 11.10 I got > to much problems and I switched to Thunderbird. > > Now my question: does anybody still use KMail2 and if yes, > does it work now in 12.04. > > Thanks > > Anton Not the way I usually do email - by letting fetchmail & postfix daemons feed /var/mail/username with mail from my various POP3 account, and letting my mail client (Kmail in this case) look for it there and only there (that is, it doesn't connect to anything "outside" my PC in order to find mail). I still get the usual series of freakout popups about external programs modifying the mbox and about backups being made just in case, and I don't think it properly deletes retrieved mail from the mbox (though perhaps setting the compression interval from 50 to 1 might help there). KMail does work for me if I set up POP3 resources from within KMail and use the /var/mail/username mbox spool thing strictly for local mail (which I never get, what with me living alone). But when I work like that I can't as easily try out different mail clients or resort to console clients because there's so much more setting up to do than when all my mail just automatically ends up in /var/mail/poor_little_me. So basically I don't like the way KMail (Kmail2, that is, it wasn't a problem before and isn't a problem for Thunderbird or Evolution or (etc.)) makes me work, but I still like the interface and general simplicity of KMail. :/, Anja From basroufs at gmail.com Tue May 1 22:21:39 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - message in English) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 00:21:39 +0200 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <3584936.RluLK8RvXr@t520> References: <3584936.RluLK8RvXr@t520> Message-ID: <3692805.se2eBuHXkN@viaconsensus-travel> Hello Anton and everybody, > > Now my question: does anybody still use KMail2 and if yes, > > does it work now in 12.04. Yes - I do use Kmail/ Kontact - it functions well enough, but still has some rough edges. A few days ago, I upgraded from Kubuntu 11.10 to 12.04. So, here, I share my first impressions. > KMail is now working very well for me, using IMAP to GMail. So far, KMAIL in Kubuntu 12.04 seems to work better then in Kubuntu 11.10 - eg. fetching large quantities of e-mail messages seem to function better. I also use (online and offline) IMAP to GMAIL. I think, you can use IMAP also with GMX. > > As an experiment, I switched the Akonadi backend from MySQL to SQLite, and > this has made KMail feel subjectively smoother. Prior versions didn't handle > SQLite so well, but those problems appear to be fixed. One of the "rough edges" I refer to, is the intense CPU usage by a few processes when using Kontact - MySQL is one of them. So, please, Steve explain me how I could switch to "SQLite". Thanks, respectfully yours, Bas. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands E. BasRoufs at gmail.com Mob. +31 6 446 835 10 Tel. +31 30 785 40 Skype, Google Talk: basroufs Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu Viaconsensus.nl RainbowGathering.eu Open source OS: Linux Kubuntu 12.04. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Tue May 1 23:05:48 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - Nederlandstalige boodschap) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 01:05:48 +0200 Subject: Kontact 4.8.2 & Kubuntu 12.04: how to import local calendar and to-do list into Google? Message-ID: <27265623.asNtPd4nSB@viaconsensus-travel> Hello everybody, at present, I have 2 calendars in Kontact: a local one and "akonadi_gcal_resource" (Akonadi/ Google.) Already several months, I am trying to find out how I could import the local calendar and to-do list into "akonadi_gcal_resource": via KONTACT > FILE > import > import calendar > import into existing calendar. However, I still get stuck at this point: The "select calendar" dialogue window does not seem to offer to select any local calendar to import. Do you have any clue? Respectfully yours, Bas -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands E. BasRoufs at gmail.com Mob. +31 6 446 835 10 Tel. +31 30 785 40 Skype, Google Talk: basroufs Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu Viaconsensus.nl RainbowGathering.eu Open source OS: Linux Kubuntu 12.04 LTS. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: import-attempt.png Type: image/png Size: 18275 bytes Desc: not available URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed May 2 04:15:16 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 06:15:16 +0200 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FA0B4D4.7050808@gmail.com> On 01/05/12 22:49, Anton wrote: > Hi, > > I used KMail since I uses KDE (first Suse then Kubuntu). > But starting with KMail2 in Kubuntu 11.10 I got > to much problems and I switched to Thunderbird. > > Now my question: does anybody still use KMail2 and if yes, > does it work now in 12.04. > Note that something that does not work in KDEPIM 4.8.2 (the version in 12.04) is autocompletion of mail addresses from contact/addressbooks when you compose email. And as far as I have been able to try out the same goes for Distribution Lists/ Groups. According to what I have found out via forums and mailinglists the function is disabled in 4.8.x and will return in 4.9 later this year. Regards Sinclair From rterry at pacific.net.au Wed May 2 04:44:01 2012 From: rterry at pacific.net.au (rterry at pacific.net.au) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 14:44:01 +1000 Subject: Subversion and 12.04 LTS In-Reply-To: <2536820.eO0HkfPFhf@hamra> References: <201204300938.34305.rterry@pacific.net.au> <2536820.eO0HkfPFhf@hamra> Message-ID: <201205021444.01728.rterry@pacific.net.au> On Monday 30 April 2012 13:46:02 Waleed Hamra wrote: > On Monday April 30 2012 09:38:34 rterry at pacific.net.au wrote: > > I was runing the beta of this (2) and upgraded. > > > > Now I can't commit my svn - comes up saying connection refused. > > > > Previously KWallet would popup > asking for password. > > > > searched the web, > no answers > > > > ?anyone else noticed this ?how to fix. > > > > Regards > > > > richard > > connection refused? did you specify some custom port settings that might > have been overwritten in the upgrade? or some proxy setting? > Thanks everyone for the help. 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URL: From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Wed May 2 12:43:34 2012 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (anj tuesday) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 14:43:34 +0200 Subject: Seriously, Ubuntu Software Center? *g* Message-ID: <4FA12BF6.2080208@gmx.net> With captchas like these, I've yet to manage to sign up for the send-in-your-recommendations feature: http://imgur.com/a/7okOK#4 From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Wed May 2 13:11:06 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 23:11:06 +1000 Subject: Seriously, Ubuntu Software Center? *g* In-Reply-To: <4FA12BF6.2080208@gmx.net> References: <4FA12BF6.2080208@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1655501.c18BbPzm5p@lindsay-kubuntu-12> On Wed, 2 May 2012 02:43:34 PM anj tuesday wrote: > With captchas like these, I've yet to manage to sign up for the > send-in-your-recommendations feature: > > http://imgur.com/a/7okOK#4 Those are particularly bad but its becoming a problem across the board now. Generally take me 3-4 go's to get past the std captchas now on forum postings etc, it getting really irritating. I'm bothering less and less these days. -- Lindsay From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Wed May 2 13:19:17 2012 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (anj tuesday) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 15:19:17 +0200 Subject: Seriously, Ubuntu Software Center? *g* In-Reply-To: <1655501.c18BbPzm5p@lindsay-kubuntu-12> References: <4FA12BF6.2080208@gmx.net> <1655501.c18BbPzm5p@lindsay-kubuntu-12> Message-ID: <4FA13455.5030507@gmx.net> Am 02.05.2012 15:11, schrieb Lindsay Mathieson: > On Wed, 2 May 2012 02:43:34 PM anj tuesday wrote: >> With captchas like these, I've yet to manage to sign up for the >> send-in-your-recommendations feature: >> >> http://imgur.com/a/7okOK#4 > Those are particularly bad but its becoming a problem across the board now. > Generally take me 3-4 go's to get past the std captchas now on forum postings > etc, it getting really irritating. I'm bothering less and less these days. I didn't get past this one at all. It also didn't seem to like my email address. I'm not sure it's not broken, actually... From gheskett at wdtv.com Wed May 2 13:45:04 2012 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 09:45:04 -0400 Subject: Seriously, Ubuntu Software Center? *g* In-Reply-To: <4FA12BF6.2080208@gmx.net> References: <4FA12BF6.2080208@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201205020945.04174.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 09:33:31 AM anj tuesday did opine: > With captchas like these, I've yet to manage to sign up for the > send-in-your-recommendations feature: > > http://imgur.com/a/7okOK#4 You got a better series of them than I did, and I also gave up. But I should have known better, its a rare occasion indeed when the kde folks care what the user wants. I have gotten the impression that they will do anything they can to reduce the volume of incoming mail while making it _look_ like they take feedback. Those capcha's are intended to be human solvable while OCR techniques fail. But not even I've Been Moved's Watson could solve those. Stuff them someplace dark with a methane atmosphere, please. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: You are a bundle of energy, always on the go. From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Wed May 2 13:53:24 2012 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (anj tuesday) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 15:53:24 +0200 Subject: Seriously, Ubuntu Software Center? *g* In-Reply-To: <201205020945.04174.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <4FA12BF6.2080208@gmx.net> <201205020945.04174.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <4FA13C54.6030606@gmx.net> Am 02.05.2012 15:45, schrieb gene heskett: > On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 09:33:31 AM anj tuesday did opine: > >> With captchas like these, I've yet to manage to sign up for the >> send-in-your-recommendations feature: >> >> http://imgur.com/a/7okOK#4 > You got a better series of them than I did, and I also gave up. But I > should have known better, its a rare occasion indeed when the kde folks > care what the user wants. I have gotten the impression that they will do > anything they can to reduce the volume of incoming mail while making it > _look_ like they take feedback. Those capcha's are intended to be human > solvable while OCR techniques fail. But not even I've Been Moved's Watson > could solve those. Stuff them someplace dark with a methane atmosphere, > please. > Yeah, it feels like you're not supposed to actually manage to sign up. But I wouldn't blame KDE for the vagaries of Ubuntu Software Center...? From gheskett at wdtv.com Wed May 2 14:40:41 2012 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:40:41 -0400 Subject: Seriously, Ubuntu Software Center? *g* In-Reply-To: <4FA13C54.6030606@gmx.net> References: <4FA12BF6.2080208@gmx.net> <201205020945.04174.gheskett@wdtv.com> <4FA13C54.6030606@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201205021040.41355.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:39:59 AM anj tuesday did opine: > Am 02.05.2012 15:45, schrieb gene heskett: > > On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 09:33:31 AM anj tuesday did opine: > >> With captchas like these, I've yet to manage to sign up for the > >> send-in-your-recommendations feature: > >> > >> http://imgur.com/a/7okOK#4 > > > > You got a better series of them than I did, and I also gave up. But I > > should have known better, its a rare occasion indeed when the kde > > folks care what the user wants. I have gotten the impression that > > they will do anything they can to reduce the volume of incoming mail > > while making it _look_ like they take feedback. Those capcha's are > > intended to be human solvable while OCR techniques fail. But not > > even I've Been Moved's Watson could solve those. Stuff them > > someplace dark with a methane atmosphere, please. > > Yeah, it feels like you're not supposed to actually manage to > sign up. But I wouldn't blame KDE for the vagaries of > Ubuntu Software Center...? Humm, I coulda sworn this was the Kubuntu list. :) Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: I'm hungry, time to eat lunch. From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Wed May 2 15:04:37 2012 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (anj tuesday) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 17:04:37 +0200 Subject: Seriously, Ubuntu Software Center? *g* In-Reply-To: <201205021040.41355.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <4FA12BF6.2080208@gmx.net> <201205020945.04174.gheskett@wdtv.com> <4FA13C54.6030606@gmx.net> <201205021040.41355.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <4FA14D05.1020302@gmx.net> Am 02.05.2012 16:40, schrieb gene heskett: > On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:39:59 AM anj tuesday did opine: > >> Am 02.05.2012 15:45, schrieb gene heskett: >>> On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 09:33:31 AM anj tuesday did opine: >>>> With captchas like these, I've yet to manage to sign up for the >>>> send-in-your-recommendations feature: >>>> >>>> http://imgur.com/a/7okOK#4 >>> You got a better series of them than I did, and I also gave up. But I >>> should have known better, its a rare occasion indeed when the kde >>> folks care what the user wants. I have gotten the impression that >>> they will do anything they can to reduce the volume of incoming mail >>> while making it _look_ like they take feedback. Those capcha's are >>> intended to be human solvable while OCR techniques fail. But not >>> even I've Been Moved's Watson could solve those. Stuff them >>> someplace dark with a methane atmosphere, please. >> Yeah, it feels like you're not supposed to actually manage to >> sign up. But I wouldn't blame KDE for the vagaries of >> Ubuntu Software Center...? > Humm, I coulda sworn this was the Kubuntu list. :) > > Cheers, Gene Sure is :) Doesn't turn Ubuntu things into KDE things... From clay at claydoh.com Wed May 2 16:16:36 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 12:16:36 -0400 Subject: Seriously, Ubuntu Software Center? *g* In-Reply-To: <4FA14D05.1020302@gmx.net> References: <4FA12BF6.2080208@gmx.net> <201205021040.41355.gheskett@wdtv.com> <4FA14D05.1020302@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4350483.Kn5DAYW9VV@lark-latitude-d630> On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 05:04:37 PM anj tuesday wrote: > Am 02.05.2012 16:40, schrieb gene heskett: > > On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:39:59 AM anj tuesday did opine: > >> Am 02.05.2012 15:45, schrieb gene heskett: > >>> On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 09:33:31 AM anj tuesday did opine: > >>>> With captchas like these, I've yet to manage to sign up for the > >>>> send-in-your-recommendations feature: > >>>> > >>>> http://imgur.com/a/7okOK#4 > >>> > >>> You got a better series of them than I did, and I also gave up. But I > >>> should have known better, its a rare occasion indeed when the kde > >>> folks care what the user wants. I have gotten the impression that > >>> they will do anything they can to reduce the volume of incoming mail > >>> while making it _look_ like they take feedback. Those capcha's are > >>> intended to be human solvable while OCR techniques fail. But not > >>> even I've Been Moved's Watson could solve those. Stuff them > >>> someplace dark with a methane atmosphere, please. > >> > >> Yeah, it feels like you're not supposed to actually manage to > >> sign up. But I wouldn't blame KDE for the vagaries of > >> Ubuntu Software Center...? > > > > Humm, I coulda sworn this was the Kubuntu list. :) > > > > Cheers, Gene > > Sure is :) Doesn't turn Ubuntu things into KDE things... Or turn Captcha things into Ubuntu things turning into Kubuntu things ;) I have seen official Captcha reCaptcha images become unreadbale quite often these days. I wonder if it is the quality of the content they feed out to all the website authentication areas they service, or they have made it more difficult to make it tougher for bots and spammers to break. Very frustrating no matter the reason, as is the spam and porn that makes it through if sites ease up on the verifications -- clay From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Wed May 2 16:34:15 2012 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (anj tuesday) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 18:34:15 +0200 Subject: Seriously, Ubuntu Software Center? *g* In-Reply-To: <4350483.Kn5DAYW9VV@lark-latitude-d630> References: <4FA12BF6.2080208@gmx.net> <201205021040.41355.gheskett@wdtv.com> <4FA14D05.1020302@gmx.net> <4350483.Kn5DAYW9VV@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <4FA16207.3010803@gmx.net> Am 02.05.2012 18:16, schrieb Clay Weber: > On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 05:04:37 PM anj tuesday wrote: >> Am 02.05.2012 16:40, schrieb gene heskett: >>> On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:39:59 AM anj tuesday did opine: >>>> Am 02.05.2012 15:45, schrieb gene heskett: >>>>> On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 09:33:31 AM anj tuesday did opine: >>>>>> With captchas like these, I've yet to manage to sign up for the >>>>>> send-in-your-recommendations feature: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://imgur.com/a/7okOK#4 >>>>> You got a better series of them than I did, and I also gave up. But I >>>>> should have known better, its a rare occasion indeed when the kde >>>>> folks care what the user wants. I have gotten the impression that >>>>> they will do anything they can to reduce the volume of incoming mail >>>>> while making it _look_ like they take feedback. Those capcha's are >>>>> intended to be human solvable while OCR techniques fail. But not >>>>> even I've Been Moved's Watson could solve those. Stuff them >>>>> someplace dark with a methane atmosphere, please. >>>> Yeah, it feels like you're not supposed to actually manage to >>>> sign up. But I wouldn't blame KDE for the vagaries of >>>> Ubuntu Software Center...? >>> Humm, I coulda sworn this was the Kubuntu list. :) >>> >>> Cheers, Gene >> Sure is :) Doesn't turn Ubuntu things into KDE things... > Or turn Captcha things into Ubuntu things turning into Kubuntu things ;) > > I have seen official Captcha reCaptcha images become unreadbale quite often > these days. I wonder if it is the quality of the content they feed out to all > the website authentication areas they service, or they have made it more > difficult to make it tougher for bots and spammers to break. Very frustrating no > matter the reason, as is the spam and porn that makes it through if sites ease > up on the verifications > Why would the unguessable or "wrong locale"-y ones (had some Greek and Hebrew) even get rolled out? If computers can't "read" them, wouldn't it have to start with humans consciously deciding to add them (and their clear text "solutions")? Must be a sadistic bunch... From basroufs at gmail.com Wed May 2 21:02:18 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - message in English) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 23:02:18 +0200 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <15908244.uKb7Ta7SCO@t520> References: <3692805.se2eBuHXkN@viaconsensus-travel> <15908244.uKb7Ta7SCO@t520> Message-ID: <1357098.NiN8JO6Kdr@viaconsensus-travel> Hello Steve and Everybody Else Yesterday, I brought up this question in this thread: > > One of the "rough edges" I refer to, is the intense CPU usage by a few > > processes when using Kontact - MySQL is one of them. So, please, Steve > > explain me how I could switch to "SQLite". Today, you, Steve, pointed me at your interesting answer at the Kubuntu forums: http://bit.ly/Ivu0fH I really would like to carry out the proposals you summarise there. When retrieving e-mails from Google via IMAP, MYSQL eats 30 to 60% of my CPU capacity. From your input, almost everything is clear to me. The package you refer to, akonadi-backend-sqlite, I already found in the repository. However, I need a short explanation about the 2nd step you propose: " Stop the Akonadi server". Can you please briefly explain how? Another question puzzling me is wether you (or any body else) has ever "merged" a local .ical file with calendar and tasks into the google calendar, carried by the akonadi googledata resource. The past 24 hours, I posted this question to this forum in a bit more detail. Thanks, respectfully yours, Bas Roufs. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands E. BasRoufs at gmail.com Mob. +31 6 446 835 10 Tel. +31 30 785 40 Skype, Google Talk: basroufs Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu Viaconsensus.nl RainbowGathering.eu Open source OS: Linux Kubuntu 12.04. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stvrly at gmail.com Wed May 2 21:10:31 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 14:10:31 -0700 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <1357098.NiN8JO6Kdr@viaconsensus-travel> References: <15908244.uKb7Ta7SCO@t520> <1357098.NiN8JO6Kdr@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <1934320.KSuAn8jXgM@t520> On 2012-05-02 23:02:18 Bas Roufs - message in English wrote: > > However, I need a short explanation about the 2nd step you propose: " Stop > the Akonadi server". Can you please briefly explain how? At a command prompt: akonadictl stop Or, with the GUI: Click the triangle in the system tray to reveal the hidden icons Right-click "AkonadiTray" Choose "Stop Akonadi" > Another question puzzling me is wether you (or any body else) has ever > "merged" a local .ical file with calendar and tasks into the google > calendar, carried by the akonadi googledata resource. Can't help you with this one, sorry, as I've never had to deal with local .ical files. ...Steve From basroufs at gmail.com Wed May 2 21:33:11 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - message in English) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 23:33:11 +0200 Subject: Kontact 4.8.2 & Kubuntu 12.04: how to import a local calendar and to-do list into Google? Message-ID: <2838642.EGxbTIHVMa@viaconsensus-travel> Hello everybody, at present, I have 2 calendars in Kontact: a local one and "akonadi_gcal_resource" (Akonadi/ Google.) Already several months, I am trying to find out how I could import the local calendar and to-do list into "akonadi_gcal_resource". The best way I have been able to find so far is like this: KONTACT > FILE > import > import calendar > merge into existing calendar. However, I still get stuck at this point: In the image above, you can find two empty dialogue windows under the phrase "Select the calendar where this item (=the local calendar .ical file, BR) will be stored." However, I see no possibility to click there somewhere at something like "akonadi_gcal_resource". The only button I can click at, is "Cancel". The "OK"button is always disabled. Do you have any clue? Respectfully yours, Bas -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands E. BasRoufs at gmail.com Mob. +31 6 446 835 10 Tel. +31 30 785 40 Skype, Google Talk: BasRoufs Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu Viaconsensus.nl RainbowGathering.eu Open source OS: Linux Kubuntu 12.04 LTS. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: import-attempt.png Type: image/png Size: 15175 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Thu May 3 01:21:19 2012 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 04:21:19 +0300 Subject: Kontact 4.8.2 & Kubuntu 12.04: how to import a local calendar and to-do list into Google? In-Reply-To: <2838642.EGxbTIHVMa@viaconsensus-travel> References: <2838642.EGxbTIHVMa@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <2895515.vJiV08HobF@hamra> On Wednesday May 2 2012 23:33:11 Bas Roufs - message in English wrote: > Hello everybody, > > at present, I have 2 calendars in Kontact: a local one and > "akonadi_gcal_resource" (Akonadi/ Google.) > Already several months, I am trying to find out how I could import the local > calendar and to-do list into "akonadi_gcal_resource". The best way I have > been able to find so far is like this: > KONTACT > FILE > import > import calendar > merge into existing calendar. > However, I still get stuck at this point: > > > > In the image above, you can find two empty dialogue windows under the phrase > "Select the calendar where this item (=the local calendar .ical file, BR) > will be stored." However, I see no possibility to click there somewhere at > something like "akonadi_gcal_resource". The only button I can click at, is > "Cancel". The "OK"button is always disabled. > > > Do you have any clue? > Respectfully yours, > Bas i don't really know anything about calendars, and don't use them. but searching around, i came across this article. doesn't seem straightforward, and not sure if it's what you need. http://archive09.linux.com/feature/122054.html hope this helps. -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Thu May 3 02:58:05 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 12:58:05 +1000 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <3584936.RluLK8RvXr@t520> References: <3584936.RluLK8RvXr@t520> Message-ID: On 2 May 2012 07:03, Steve Riley wrote: > > As an experiment, I switched the Akonadi backend from MySQL to SQLite, and > this has made KMail feel subjectively smoother. Prior versions didn't > handle > SQLite so well, but those problems appear to be fixed. > Is that still the case with KDE 4.8.2 release on Precise Steve? I have it working pretty well with Gmail now but its still feels sluggish. Bit reluctant to recreate all my acounts over again though :) -- Lindsay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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File appears to be an executable but has no extension, an it is 20,7 KiB. > > > I tried to open it with kate and, apart from the strange characters, close to the end of the file I could read the following lines: > > > /proc/self/exe .config/.check-home.pid /proc/%s/exe %d .tar CPUINFO=`cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name'`;LSPCI=`lspci`;echo ${CPUINFO}${LSPCI} | sha1sum | head -c 40 check-filesystem /proc/stat btime /bin/sh /bin/busybox test4.lnx-ads.com test6.lnx-ads.com UDP > -c /dev/urandom .local tcp udp /etc/services � � � � /etc/hosts DNSCACHEIP /etc/resolv.conf nameserver search domain /etc/passwd > > > Does anybody know something about this file? Is it dangerous or should I delete it? > Thanks in advance, > Lucas > What folder has this? Some application must have created this when it was first run, that folder name will be the clue. I don't have such a file myself. -- clay From stvrly at gmail.com Thu May 3 06:12:29 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 23:12:29 -0700 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: References: <3584936.RluLK8RvXr@t520> Message-ID: <3495699.HJWz1Zr2Pu@x1> On 2012-05-03 12:58:05 Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > > Is that still the case with KDE 4.8.2 release on Precise Steve? I have it > working pretty well with Gmail now but its still feels sluggish. Bit > reluctant to recreate all my acounts over again though :) I'm running Precise on two ThinkPad laptops: * T520, Kubuntu 12.04 from alternate ISO * X1, Ubuntu 12.04 command-line install, KDE packages added The X1 is for all practical purposes running Kubuntu, but I built it up by installing various KDE packages in the repositories. I initially installed when Precise reached alpha 1 and have steadily kept it updated. The T520 was freshly built from the Kubuntu 12.04 release bits. Specs on the two machines are roughly the same: 8 GB RAM, SSD; the X1 has a Core i5 processor, the T520 has a Core i7. On the T520, Akonadi is still configured to use MySQL. On the X1 I've switched Akonadi to SQLite. And despite the X1's slightly slower processor, KMail feels a bit more responsive. That's about all I can say to describe the difference. ...Steve From gldvorak at gmail.com Thu May 3 06:19:08 2012 From: gldvorak at gmail.com (George Dvorak) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 23:19:08 -0700 Subject: bin folder with a "check-home" file appeared in Home directory In-Reply-To: <2465661.acC4aj7SY9@lark-latitude-d630> References: <2465661.acC4aj7SY9@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > On Thursday, May 03, 2012 01:51:20 AM Lucas L wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I recently noticed a new folder in my Home directory, with a file named > "check-home". File appears to be an executable but has no extension, an it > is > 20,7 KiB. > > > > > > I tried to open it with kate and, apart from the strange characters, > close > to the end of the file I could read the following lines: > > > > > > /proc/self/exe .config/.check-home.pid /proc/%s/exe %d .tar CPUINFO=`cat > /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name'`;LSPCI=`lspci`;echo ${CPUINFO}${LSPCI} | > sha1sum | head -c 40 check-filesystem /proc/stat btime /bin/sh /bin/busybox > test4.lnx-ads.com test6.lnx-ads.com UDP > > -c /dev/urandom .local tcp udp /etc/services � � � � > /etc/hosts DNSCACHEIP /etc/resolv.conf nameserver search domain > /etc/passwd > > > > > > Does anybody know something about this file? Is it dangerous or should I > delete it? > > Thanks in advance, > > Lucas > > > > What folder has this? Some application must have created this when it was > first > run, that folder name will be the clue. 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In-Reply-To: <4F9C115A.1090600@gmail.com> References: <20120428113941.6526A9BC289@vzwemconn21.vzw-prod.oz.com> <4F9C115A.1090600@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FA24139.20303@gmail.com> On 28/04/12 17:48, Valter Mura wrote: > Il 28/04/2012 13:39, Clay Weber ha scritto: >> Apt itself has no knowledge of Ubuntu new releases. The updater >> (whether Muon updater or Apper's ) basically tells apt what to do. >> >> If it hasn't already been done, please check in the Software Sources >> that the new release notification is set correctly and that you have >> updated your system. >> >> Clay Weber > > In Muon / Updates I have enabled all updates except for "not supported" > in Kubuntu updates; In Release updgrade "Long term support release only" > is set. > >> >> ------Original Message------ >> From: Valter Mura >> To: "Kubuntu user technical support" >> Date: Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:54:16 AM GMT+0200 >> Subject: Re: update to 12-04??? >> >> Il 28/04/2012 09:52, O. Sinclair ha scritto: >>> On 28/04/12 08:43, Valter Mura wrote: >>>> Il 27/04/2012 16:19, Paul Stear ha scritto: >>>>> Hi, I have updated all 11.10 packages as per instructions, rebooted >>>>> but have >>>>> not had system notification that a new version of kubuntu is >>>>> available. >>>>> What do I do now? >>>>> paul >>>>> >>>> >>>> Same for me. Muon doesn't warn me about upgrade, nor APT. >>>> >>>> My system is updated (11.10), I also delete "ppa" and "ppa-backports" >>>> lines from "other software", but nothing happens. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have a trick? >>>> >>>> TIA, regards, >>> Without KNOWING the reason I dare a guess on this. Muon bug. I have >>> Apper installed besides Muon (wanted to try it out, in short) and it is >>> notifying me of the dist upgrade. Muon is not. >> >> Well I could try it (the old kpackagekit...) >> >> The strange thing is that also APT (cli) doesn't give me vital signs... Check the file /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades if it is set to "lts" then 11.10 will not "see" the upgrade. I edited to "normal" and all started working as expected /Sinclair From gkourtev at gmail.com Thu May 3 09:47:43 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 12:47:43 +0300 Subject: Installing printer HP Message-ID: <1462349.QtAUrfCTok@gkourtev-laptop> Kubuntu 12.04. Fresh install. I wanted to install a netwrok HP LaserJet printer and never managed to get it work through CUPS or Setting--> Printers. The printer is installed but cannot print due to error "usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups failed" The solution I found is to use konsole 'sudo hp-setup -i' as suggested here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/gentoo-87/usr-libexec-cups-filter- hpcups-failed-818393/. All works fine now. Did someone got the same issue? is this a bug that needs to be open? gk From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Thu May 3 09:56:23 2012 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 12:56:23 +0300 Subject: Calligra Stage first impressions Message-ID: <2342380.sTdxn3CFvP@hamra> today was my first time trying out calligra stage to import a pptx file, and i'm happy to see it handled it better than libre office impress :) here are 2 screenshots to compare: calligra: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4359/snap2oc.png libre office: http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6487/snap3rr.png -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Thu May 3 11:57:07 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 21:57:07 +1000 Subject: Panel & Desktop unresponsive until wireless connects Message-ID: <1613761.rFhvkGbsbD@lindsay-kubuntu-12> As per the subject - it takes a good 30 seconds after the desktop loads before it will respond to mouse clicks - seems to coincide with the wireless connecting. htop & top show no special load happening Apps that autoload such as firefox or konsole are fine though, so my guess is it plasma related. KDE 4.8.2 Kubuntu 12.04 64 bit It happened with 4.8.1 as well. -- Lindsay From tentaro at hotmail.com Thu May 3 12:50:20 2012 From: tentaro at hotmail.com (Terry Madore Jr) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 08:50:20 -0400 Subject: I am a little disappointed...... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have loved Kubuntu from the first time I installed it and yes it takes a bit of work to get it to where I want it to be but it's worth it...... MOSTLY. My only problems with it now is still, even after all these version updates, that I cannot use my TV tuner card (Avermedia A188 HDDuet TV) and my wireless card (Netgear WN-311T) without using ndiswrapper (which apparently isn't working right now in 12.04 but I will get to that in a minute). Isn't there anyone in the community out there who knows anything about drivers, who can get me some that will work. I tire of trying to use ndiswrapper for a Netgear card that should have a working driver by now. Also I have used the proven info for ndiswrapper from undiff.com (which I had used up until this version with no problems) to get my card to work and apparently it is not working anymore in 12.04, which makes it all the more disappointing for me. This is the 3 strike rule for me on this OS, I am up to 2 and hoping that someday they can be remedied since this puts a huge damper on my ever moving completely here. I've tried to rally my family behind this OS but if even I have problems (who has been working in IT and Electronics since I was a young boy) cannot get everything to work right, how can I expect anyone in my family to figure it out...... Anyway please if there is anyone at all out there who has gotten either of these to work , I would greatly appreciate the assistance. I am really trying to break Micro$oft's hold on my PC. Thank you for your time. TJ On 5/3/2012 8:00 AM, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Send kubuntu-users mailing list submissions to > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kubuntu-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Installing printer HP (Georgi Kourtev) > 2. Calligra Stage first impressions (Waleed Hamra) > 3. Panel& Desktop unresponsive until wireless connects > (Lindsay Mathieson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 12:47:43 +0300 > From: Georgi Kourtev > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Subject: Installing printer HP > Message-ID:<1462349.QtAUrfCTok at gkourtev-laptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Kubuntu 12.04. Fresh install. I wanted to install a netwrok HP LaserJet > printer and never managed to get it work through CUPS or Setting--> Printers. > The printer is installed but cannot print due to error > "usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups failed" > > The solution I found is to use konsole 'sudo hp-setup -i' as suggested here > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/gentoo-87/usr-libexec-cups-filter- > hpcups-failed-818393/. All works fine now. > > Did someone got the same issue? is this a bug that needs to be open? > gk > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 12:56:23 +0300 > From: Waleed Hamra > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Calligra Stage first impressions > Message-ID:<2342380.sTdxn3CFvP at hamra> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > today was my first time trying out calligra stage to import a pptx file, and i'm > happy to see it handled it better than libre office impress :) > > here are 2 screenshots to compare: > > calligra: > http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4359/snap2oc.png > > libre office: > http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6487/snap3rr.png > From cbaptista at opensuse.us Thu May 3 13:12:01 2012 From: cbaptista at opensuse.us (Carlos Baptista) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 14:12:01 +0100 Subject: Hidden Wireless Message-ID: Hi, I have a problem with 12.04. I cant connect to a hidden network with the following settings: hiden ssid security : wpa2 enterprise authentication : Protected EAP peap version : automatic (also tested with version 0 an 1) inner auth MSCHAPv2 Everything works with an opensuse live cd. I can connect to visible wpa2 networks. Any ideas ? Thanks Carlos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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File appears to be an executable but has no extension, an it > is > 20,7 KiB. > > > > > > I tried to open it with kate and, apart from the strange characters, > close > to the end of the file I could read the following lines: > > > > > > /proc/self/exe .config/.check-home.pid /proc/%s/exe %d .tar CPUINFO=`cat > /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name'`;LSPCI=`lspci`;echo ${CPUINFO}${LSPCI} | > sha1sum | head -c 40 check-filesystem /proc/stat btime /bin/sh /bin/busybox > test4.lnx-ads.com test6.lnx-ads.com UDP > > -c /dev/urandom .local tcp udp /etc/services ? ? ? ? > /etc/hosts DNSCACHEIP /etc/resolv.conf nameserver search domain > /etc/passwd > > > > > > Does anybody know something about this file? Is it dangerous or should I > delete it? > > Thanks in advance, > > Lucas > > > > What folder has this? Some application must have created this when it was > first > run, that folder name will be the clue. I don't have such a file myself. > -- > clay > The folder name is "bin" and appeared in the Home directory... /home/user/bin/check-home, to make it clear. I just noticed the folder and the file yesterday night, but the "modified date" is begining april. I don't remember installing new software, apart from gimp-plugin-registry via the terminal. I couldn't find anything on Google about this "check-home" file. Thanks, Lucas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Audio drops almost every time Arnie From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Thu May 3 15:06:17 2012 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 16:06:17 +0100 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <4FA0B4D4.7050808@gmail.com> References: <4FA0B4D4.7050808@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3587787.tciJaq2BgF@rachael> On Wednesday 02 May 2012 06:15:16 O. Sinclair wrote: > On 01/05/12 22:49, Anton wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I used KMail since I uses KDE (first Suse then Kubuntu). > > But starting with KMail2 in Kubuntu 11.10 I got > > to much problems and I switched to Thunderbird. > > > > Now my question: does anybody still use KMail2 and if yes, > > does it work now in 12.04. > > Note that something that does not work in KDEPIM 4.8.2 (the version in > 12.04) is autocompletion of mail addresses from contact/addressbooks > when you compose email. And as far as I have been able to try out the > same goes for Distribution Lists/ Groups. > > According to what I have found out via forums and mailinglists the > function is disabled in 4.8.x and will return in 4.9 later this year. I do hope KMail is better in 12.04 than it is in 11.10 as I've just about had enough of it and every day I find something else that isn't working correctly. Was getting concerned about the amount of disk access that it seemed to be doing so I tried iotop and at points it is over 1M/s on disk reads. Some days I wish I'd stayed with 11.04 and waited for it to become more stable. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Thu May 3 15:13:21 2012 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 16:13:21 +0100 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <3587787.tciJaq2BgF@rachael> References: <4FA0B4D4.7050808@gmail.com> <3587787.tciJaq2BgF@rachael> Message-ID: <1796826.GjQvUvSYRO@rachael> On Thursday 03 May 2012 16:06:17 Mark Fraser wrote: > On Wednesday 02 May 2012 06:15:16 O. Sinclair wrote: > > On 01/05/12 22:49, Anton wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I used KMail since I uses KDE (first Suse then Kubuntu). > > > But starting with KMail2 in Kubuntu 11.10 I got > > > to much problems and I switched to Thunderbird. > > > > > > Now my question: does anybody still use KMail2 and if yes, > > > does it work now in 12.04. > > > > Note that something that does not work in KDEPIM 4.8.2 (the version in > > 12.04) is autocompletion of mail addresses from contact/addressbooks > > when you compose email. And as far as I have been able to try out the > > same goes for Distribution Lists/ Groups. > > > > According to what I have found out via forums and mailinglists the > > function is disabled in 4.8.x and will return in 4.9 later this year. > > I do hope KMail is better in 12.04 than it is in 11.10 as I've just about > had enough of it and every day I find something else that isn't working > correctly. Was getting concerned about the amount of disk access that it > seemed to be doing so I tried iotop and at points it is over 1M/s on disk > reads. Some days I wish I'd stayed with 11.04 and waited for it to become > more stable. It is more like 30M/s reading and that email took almost a minute to actually send! -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Thu May 3 15:56:01 2012 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Isak_Enstr=C3=B6m?=) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 17:56:01 +0200 Subject: Hidden Wireless In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2012/5/3 Carlos Baptista > Hi, > > I have a problem with 12.04. > > I cant connect to a hidden network with the following settings: > > hiden ssid > security : wpa2 enterprise > authentication : Protected EAP > peap version : automatic (also tested with version 0 an 1) > inner auth MSCHAPv2 > > Everything works with an opensuse live cd. > > I can connect to visible wpa2 networks. > > Any ideas ? > > Thanks > Carlos > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > I'm not sure if this will help you with your problem, but it's worth a shot at least. http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?52642-Connect-to-hidden-wireless-network-with-knetworkmanager-good-how-to ~~ Isak __ Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jonpiper at cox.net Thu May 3 16:11:31 2012 From: jonpiper at cox.net (Jon Piper) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 12:11:31 -0400 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <1796826.GjQvUvSYRO@rachael> References: <4FA0B4D4.7050808@gmail.com> <3587787.tciJaq2BgF@rachael> <1796826.GjQvUvSYRO@rachael> Message-ID: <4FA2AE33.2000808@cox.net> Word to the wise: Forget KMail and use Thunderbird. It has been working since 8.04 without a hickup. It elicits more comments than anything else on the forum -- should rename the forum "Kmail questions forum". Jon Piper ***************** On 05/03/2012 11:13 AM, Mark Fraser wrote: > On Thursday 03 May 2012 16:06:17 Mark Fraser wrote: >> On Wednesday 02 May 2012 06:15:16 O. Sinclair wrote: >>> On 01/05/12 22:49, Anton wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I used KMail since I uses KDE (first Suse then Kubuntu). >>>> But starting with KMail2 in Kubuntu 11.10 I got >>>> to much problems and I switched to Thunderbird. >>>> >>>> Now my question: does anybody still use KMail2 and if yes, >>>> does it work now in 12.04. >>> Note that something that does not work in KDEPIM 4.8.2 (the version in >>> 12.04) is autocompletion of mail addresses from contact/addressbooks >>> when you compose email. And as far as I have been able to try out the >>> same goes for Distribution Lists/ Groups. >>> >>> According to what I have found out via forums and mailinglists the >>> function is disabled in 4.8.x and will return in 4.9 later this year. >> I do hope KMail is better in 12.04 than it is in 11.10 as I've just about >> had enough of it and every day I find something else that isn't working >> correctly. Was getting concerned about the amount of disk access that it >> seemed to be doing so I tried iotop and at points it is over 1M/s on disk >> reads. Some days I wish I'd stayed with 11.04 and waited for it to become >> more stable. > It is more like 30M/s reading and that email took almost a minute to actually > send! From basroufs at gmail.com Thu May 3 16:32:39 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - Nederlandstalige boodschap) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 18:32:39 +0200 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <1934320.KSuAn8jXgM@t520> References: <1357098.NiN8JO6Kdr@viaconsensus-travel> <1934320.KSuAn8jXgM@t520> Message-ID: <1379463.KbAuQKjgHs@viaconsensus-travel> Hello Everybody With respect to MySQL and SQLite - I have been tweaking today along the lines of your suggestions, Steve: in this thread as well as in your contribution on this subject at Kubuntu furums: http://bit.ly/Ivu0fH Now, I am somewhere half way: at one netbook it seems to work quite well, at another one, I am in a seemingly vicious circle of complications. The netbook where SQLite seems to work well, is a HP Pavilion dm 1. Main specs: 500 GB HD, 1,66 GHZ AMD Dual Core Processor, 4 GB RAM, Kubuntu 12.04. Dealing with IMAP GMAIL e-mail goes considerably smoother and quicker now. One question remains for this netbook: do I need to UNinstall "Akonadi backend MySQL"? Uninstalling this would imply removal AND installation of a whole bunch of other packages- according to the info in MUON package manager. So, my question is now: can both MySQL and SQLite stay in the same system? The other netbook is an Eee PC 1001HA - 250 GB HD, 1,66 GHZ processor, 2GB RAM, Kubuntu 12.04. There, I have followed exactly the same procedure. However, I do simply not manage to get started Akonadi in that case. Below you can find a so-called "Akonadi Server Self-Test Report" which highlights technical details with respect to the complications. A specific thread at forum.kde.org points at a remedy I have been using successfully recently in similar situations - removal of the akonadi-configuration: ~/.local/share/akonadi/ ~/.config/akonadi/ ~/.kde4/share/config/akonadi* But when restarting the system, I get back the original configuration - as a matter of consequence, MySQL is enabled and SQLite disabled. My question is now: what to do next to enable again SQLite together with Kontact? Thanks for any input that might come in. Respectfully yours, Bas. Akonadi Server Self-Test Report =============================== Test 1: SUCCESS -------- Database driver found. Details: The QtSQL driver 'QSQLITE3' is required by your current Akonadi server configuration and was found on your system. File content of '/home/bas/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc': [%General] Driver=QSQLITE3 [QSQLITE3] Name=/home/bas/.local/share/akonadi/akonadi.db [Debug] Tracer=null Test 2: SUCCESS -------- Akonadi is not running as root Details: Akonadi is not running as a root/administrator user, which is the recommended setup for a secure system. Test 3: SKIP -------- MySQL server executable not tested. Details: The current configuration does not require an internal MySQL server. Test 4: SKIP -------- MySQL server error log not tested. Details: The current configuration does not require an internal MySQL server. Test 5: SKIP -------- MySQL server configuration not tested. Details: The current configuration does not require an internal MySQL server. Test 6: SUCCESS -------- akonadictl found and usable Details: The program '/usr/bin/akonadictl' to control the Akonadi server was found and could be executed successfully. Result: Akonadi 1.7.2 Test 7: ERROR -------- Akonadi control process not registered at D-Bus. Details: The Akonadi control process is not registered at D-Bus which typically means it was not started or encountered a fatal error during startup. Test 8: ERROR -------- Akonadi server process not registered at D-Bus. Details: The Akonadi server process is not registered at D-Bus which typically means it was not started or encountered a fatal error during startup. Test 9: SUCCESS -------- Nepomuk search service registered at D-Bus. Details: The Nepomuk search service is registered at D-Bus which typically indicates it is operational. Test 10: SUCCESS -------- Nepomuk search service uses an appropriate backend. Details: The Nepomuk search service uses one of the recommended backends. Test 11: SKIP -------- Protocol version check not possible. Details: Without a connection to the server it is not possible to check if the protocol version meets the requirements. Test 12: SUCCESS -------- Resource agents found. Details: At least one resource agent has been found. Directory listing of '/usr/share/akonadi/agents': akonadinepomukfeederagent.desktop akonotesresource.desktop birthdaysresource.desktop calendarsearchagent.desktop contactsresource.desktop davgroupwareresource.desktop gcalresource.desktop googledataresource.desktop icalresource.desktop imapresource.desktop invitationsagent.desktop kabcresource.desktop kalarmdirresource.desktop kalarmresource.desktop kcalresource.desktop kdeaccountsresource.desktop knutresource.desktop kolabproxyresource.desktop localbookmarksresource.desktop maildirresource.desktop maildispatcheragent.desktop mailfilteragent.desktop mboxresource.desktop microblog.desktop mixedmaildirresource.desktop mtdummyresource.desktop nepomuktagresource.desktop nntpresource.desktop notesresource.desktop openxchangeresource.desktop pop3resource.desktop vcarddirresource.desktop vcardresource.desktop Environment variable XDG_DATA_DIRS is set to '/usr/share/kde- plasma:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/' Test 13: SUCCESS -------- No current Akonadi server error log found. Details: The Akonadi server did not report any errors during its current startup. Test 14: SUCCESS -------- No previous Akonadi server error log found. Details: The Akonadi server did not report any errors during its previous startup. Test 15: SUCCESS -------- No current Akonadi control error log found. Details: The Akonadi control process did not report any errors during its current startup. Test 16: SUCCESS -------- No previous Akonadi control error log found. Details: The Akonadi control process did not report any errors during its previous startup. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands E. BasRoufs at gmail.com Mob. +31 6 446 835 10 Tel. +31 30 785 40 Skype, Google Talk: basroufs Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu Viaconsensus.nl RainbowGathering.eu Open source OS: Linux Kubuntu 12.04. From stvrly at gmail.com Thu May 3 16:53:23 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 09:53:23 -0700 Subject: Hidden Wireless In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3252875.lq0acU8ozW@t520> 2012/5/3 Carlos Baptista > > I have a problem with 12.04. > > I cant connect to a hidden network with the following settings: > > hiden ssid > security : wpa2 enterprise > authentication : Protected EAP > peap version : automatic (also tested with version 0 an 1) > inner auth MSCHAPv2 > > Everything works with an opensuse live cd. > > I can connect to visible wpa2 networks. Don't be surprised if someday NetworkManager, Wicd, or even the base OS won't connect to hidden wireless networks. SSID hiding has never been officially supported by the Wi-Fi Alliance, and the 802.11 specs do not require supplicants to support hidden SSIDs. ...Steve From stvrly at gmail.com Thu May 3 17:23:28 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 10:23:28 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu Active: Plasma Active Two on Kubuntu, a brief tour Message-ID: <8677864.lc4dO5HtoU@t520> Watch me explore Plasma Active Two on Kubuntu... http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58630 I shot this video last night, after finally succeeding at getting some form of *buntu to run on my Samsung 700t tablet. You'll observe my own struggles trying to learn the user interface. It is indeed different from what we're accustomed to -- but not so much that it's a completely strange beast. Overall I'm very impressed with the development of Plasma Active and I look forward to future work. I'll probably post additional videos as I become more familiar with the UI. My forum post also contains links to other reportage of my experiences with this tablet, some of it entertaining, some of it exasperating. And if you aren't a member of KubuntuForums, consider joining us! ...Steve From moptop99 at gmail.com Thu May 3 20:52:44 2012 From: moptop99 at gmail.com (Matt Price) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 16:52:44 -0400 Subject: can't rename activities/no activiities settings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Fayaz Yusuf Khan wrote: > Matt Price wrote: > >> I'm a longtime ubuntu user finally driven to KDE by Unity.  I'm slowly >> finding my feet and am quite excited about the Activities feature of >> KDE. I understand I ought to be able to name activities and set other >> features of them in the desktop settings screen under "activities" but >> my "Desktop Settings" screen is actually quite bare, showing only >> "view" and "mouse". > You're looking in the wrong place. Try the button at the top-right corner of > your desktop. Or press Meta+Q. > -- Hi, thanks Fayaz and Clay. sorry for the slow response, I was bogged down in some stuff and didn't want to log out and try KDE until it was done, but it took ages! Back in KDE now, and I htink both of you are just suggesting I do what I was already doing -- right-click on the desktop or click the cachew-thing in the top right corner, then click one of hte "wrench" buttons -- from what I've seen on the web there's supposed to be an "activities" option once you open "Desktop Settings" But I'm not seeing anything like that -- see this image: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/991859/+attachment/3120107/+files/desktopsetting_noact.png any hints? Kubuntu-desktop is installed and uptodate, and I seem to have everything else related to activities that I can find. Is there a command I can issue at the command line maybw? Thanks again, Matt From stvrly at gmail.com Thu May 3 21:12:13 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 14:12:13 -0700 Subject: can't rename activities/no activiities settings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2756915.iNQHUB0Xxr@t520> On 2012-05-03 16:52:44 Matt Price wrote: > > any hints? Kubuntu-desktop is installed and uptodate, and I seem to > have everything else related to activities that I can find. Is there > a command I can issue at the command line maybw? Thanks again, 1. Right-click the desktop background. You should see a menu like this: http://goo.gl/IcbD3 2. Don't choose "Desktop Settings," but instead choose "Activities." The Activity Manager will appear at the bottom of your screen: http://goo.gl/oZhpB 3.Click the wrench next to the Activity you want to rename (in the illustration, it's currently called "New Activity"). Here, you can change the name and the icon: http://goo.gl/8RlUN Hope this helps... ...Steve From clay at claydoh.com Thu May 3 23:30:28 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 19:30:28 -0400 Subject: bin folder with a "check-home" file appeared in Home directory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17132107.JN3cIb28jn@lark-latitude-d630> > On Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:37:18 AM Lucas L wrote: > > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 23:23:03 -0700 > From: George Dvorak > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: Re: bin folder with a "check-home" file appeared in Home > directory > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have an executable file also /proc/self/exe. What causes you to worry > about this file? > > > > > Sorry, I think I wasn't clear enough. Yesterday night I opened my Home and found this new folder, called "bin", with a file inside called "check-home". To make it clear, what appeared is /home/user/bin/check-home. > > > I googled it and only found a result in a Linux-Mint forum, but the user with the same problem din't get an answer. > > > So I'm trying to figure out what is it about, and if it could be some kind of malware. > > > Thanks, > Lucas > Have you installed something manually via a script or installer other than a deb file? Some games that get installed to your home dir (ie as user and not system- wide) and not requiring sudo can add directories like this. It can mirror your root folder heirarchy a little. A game may install an executable file in such a ~/bin folder, for example. It is safe to remove, as it is not a system file, but obviously whatever you installed that needs it may not. -- clay From cp at ccil.org Thu May 3 23:59:37 2012 From: cp at ccil.org (Chuck Peters) Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 19:59:37 -0400 Subject: KDE 4.83 in Launchpad Message-ID: I am currently downloading KDE 4.83 from https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=precise. In the past updates like this have been in the backports ppa. I was waiting to add the backports ppa since it doesn't have any 12.04 packages yet. Which ppa will contain the KDE updates/upgrades in the future? Thanks, Chuck From clay at claydoh.com Fri May 4 00:07:40 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 20:07:40 -0400 Subject: I am a little disappointed...... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3944044.yh9sWTm3Bn@lark-latitude-d630> On Thursday, May 03, 2012 08:50:20 AM Terry Madore Jr wrote: > I have loved Kubuntu from the first time I installed it and yes it takes > a bit of work to get it to where I want it to be but it's worth it...... > MOSTLY. My only problems with it now is still, even after all these > version updates, that I cannot use my TV tuner card (Avermedia A188 > HDDuet TV) and my wireless card (Netgear WN-311T) without using > ndiswrapper (which apparently isn't working right now in 12.04 but I > will get to that in a minute). Isn't there anyone in the community out > there who knows anything about drivers, who can get me some that will > work. I tire of trying to use ndiswrapper for a Netgear card that should > have a working driver by now. Also I have used the proven info for > ndiswrapper from undiff.com (which I had used up until this version with > no problems) to get my card to work and apparently it is not working > anymore in 12.04, which makes it all the more disappointing for me. This > is the 3 strike rule for me on this OS, I am up to 2 and hoping that > someday they can be remedied since this puts a huge damper on my ever > moving completely here. I've tried to rally my family behind this OS but > if even I have problems (who has been working in IT and Electronics > since I was a young boy) cannot get everything to work right, how can I > expect anyone in my family to figure it out...... Anyway please if there > is anyone at all out there who has gotten either of these to work , I > would greatly appreciate the assistance. I am really trying to break > Micro$oft's hold on my PC. Thank you for your time. > TJ > I am sorry you have these problems. You are hitting a wall most Linux users have hit at least once. The lack of drivers cannot be fully placed on the voluntary efforts of the volunteers who volunteer to hack on hardware to attempt to create drivers. I think that if the only way to use a device is via ndiswrapper, the hardware specs are not available from the chip maker - making it extremely difficult to impossible to accomplish, or there is simply not enough interest in a particular device- often due to the first reason. Seeing as the Avermedia card dates back to at least 2009 makes me think that it is unlikely a driver will ever be developed. As to the netgear, the same thing can be said. However, it is terrible that it did work for you previously. The only thing I can recommend with ndiswrapper is to make sure you use XP or Wn2K driver files, not sure if any 32bit/64bit compatibility issues could arise out of this. clay From clay at claydoh.com Fri May 4 00:15:24 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 20:15:24 -0400 Subject: KDE 4.83 in Launchpad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1395988.zOzsifNHWY@lark-latitude-d630> On Thursday, May 03, 2012 07:59:37 PM Chuck Peters wrote: > https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=precise. > > In the past updates like this have been in the backports ppa. I was > waiting to add the backports ppa since it doesn't have any 12.04 > packages yet. Which ppa will contain the KDE updates/upgrades in the > future? Backports ppa usually bring you new *major* KDE versions, such as 4.9 The Updates ppa will have the minor point releses, such as upgrading from 4.8.2 to 4.8.3 as you are seeing. http://claydoh.com/kubuntu-and-its-repositories/ -- clay From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri May 4 04:34:01 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 06:34:01 +0200 Subject: can't rename activities/no activiities settings In-Reply-To: <2756915.iNQHUB0Xxr@t520> References: <2756915.iNQHUB0Xxr@t520> Message-ID: <4FA35C39.5090008@gmail.com> On 03/05/12 23:12, Steve Riley wrote: > On 2012-05-03 16:52:44 Matt Price wrote: >> >> any hints? Kubuntu-desktop is installed and uptodate, and I seem to >> have everything else related to activities that I can find. Is there >> a command I can issue at the command line maybw? Thanks again, > > 1. Right-click the desktop background. You should see a menu like this: > > http://goo.gl/IcbD3 > > 2. Don't choose "Desktop Settings," but instead choose "Activities." The > Activity Manager will appear at the bottom of your screen: > > http://goo.gl/oZhpB > > 3.Click the wrench next to the Activity you want to rename (in the > illustration, it's currently called "New Activity"). Here, you can change the > name and the icon: > > http://goo.gl/8RlUN > As we are on the subject: how do I remove an activity? I click (or try not to rather) on an activity and I am "in it". go back to menu, stop the activity. right-click on and and can "accept" or "cancel" changes I have not made but no "remove"?? Best regards Sinclair From theunknownandrew at gmail.com Fri May 4 05:00:32 2012 From: theunknownandrew at gmail.com (d~_*b) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 10:30:32 +0530 Subject: can't rename activities/no activiities settings In-Reply-To: <4FA35C39.5090008@gmail.com> References: <2756915.iNQHUB0Xxr@t520> <4FA35C39.5090008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5411724.KHXde3llO7@thepavilion> On Fri 04 May 2012 6:34:01 AM O. Sinclair wrote: > > 2. Don't choose "Desktop Settings," but instead choose "Activities." The > > Activity Manager will appear at the bottom of your screen: > > > > http://goo.gl/oZhpB > > > > 3.Click the wrench next to the Activity you want to rename (in the > > illustration, it's currently called "New Activity"). Here, you can change > > the name and the icon: > > > > http://goo.gl/8RlUN > > As we are on the subject: how do I remove an activity? I click (or try > not to rather) on an activity and I am "in it". go back to menu, stop > the activity. right-click on and and can "accept" or "cancel" changes I > have not made but no "remove"?? See the small x on the Activities in the screenshot 'http://goo.gl/oZhpB'? That is the one, It works similar to all the other x's on many other windows 'Close/Exit/Terminate' -- & Ru From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Fri May 4 05:31:41 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 15:31:41 +1000 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <3495699.HJWz1Zr2Pu@x1> References: <3584936.RluLK8RvXr@t520> <3495699.HJWz1Zr2Pu@x1> Message-ID: I gave SQLite a go as per your directions on the forums - mixed results. It initially worked and did feel a bit more responsive, but after I left it a few hours to index my emails via th feeder the system went nuts. dbus died, 1000's of notifications about being unable to access gmail. I nuked it and resteup using mysql - seems ok so far -- Lindsay From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri May 4 06:37:57 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 08:37:57 +0200 Subject: can't rename activities/no activiities settings In-Reply-To: <2756915.iNQHUB0Xxr@t520> References: <2756915.iNQHUB0Xxr@t520> Message-ID: <4FA37945.4020802@gmail.com> On 03/05/12 23:12, Steve Riley wrote: > On 2012-05-03 16:52:44 Matt Price wrote: >> >> any hints? Kubuntu-desktop is installed and uptodate, and I seem to >> have everything else related to activities that I can find. Is there >> a command I can issue at the command line maybw? Thanks again, > > 1. Right-click the desktop background. You should see a menu like this: > > http://goo.gl/IcbD3 > > 2. Don't choose "Desktop Settings," but instead choose "Activities." The > Activity Manager will appear at the bottom of your screen: > > http://goo.gl/oZhpB > > 3.Click the wrench next to the Activity you want to rename (in the > illustration, it's currently called "New Activity"). Here, you can change the > name and the icon: > > http://goo.gl/8RlUN > As we are on the subject: how do I remove an activity? I click (or try not to rather) on an activity and I am "in it". go back to menu, stop the activity. right-click on and and can "accept" or "cancel" changes I have not made but no "remove"?? Best regards Sinclair From theunknownandrew at gmail.com Fri May 4 06:55:51 2012 From: theunknownandrew at gmail.com (d~_*b) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 12:25:51 +0530 Subject: Problems with Kubuntu 12.04 In-Reply-To: <4FA29B3E.1000600@gmail.com> References: <4FA29B3E.1000600@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2669277.TSju5p3UR9@thepavilion> On Thu 03 May 2012 10:50:38 AM Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: > Hi, > > I have been struggling with Dolphin ever since I started using KDE. > Dolphin cant: > 1. Automount my Nikon D7000 Camera where as Nautilus can. > 2. Can't detect or automount Galaxy Nexus phone where as Nautilus can. > At the same time a lot of other USB devices don't automount. > 3. When I reboot the system it fails to connect to WiFi and keeps > showing awaiting authentication. > 4. Audio drops almost every time > > Arnie For 4 : Audio dropping - Go to Kmix > Settings > Configure kmix > & Check 'Restore Volume on Login' Else it may be a know issue like stated in the 'Known Problems ' on : http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-release more details of the bug is present here : 'https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdemultimedia/+bug/963895' For 1, 2 and 3 Either search 'Removable Devices' in System Settings on in the KMenu this will open the module where you can specify automounting for Devices http://userbase.kde.org/System_Settings/Removable_Devices and http://maketecheasier.com/manage-removable-devices-in-kde/2010/05/24 -- & Ru From valtermura at gmail.com Fri May 4 08:14:30 2012 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 10:14:30 +0200 Subject: 12.04 LTS Released In-Reply-To: References: <20120426120633.GB12478@starsky.19inch.net> <2611200.nWCvpVQId3@scott-latitude-e6320> <4F9CF068.6010500@gmail.com> <1383272.NDMtpFoq5q@scott-latitude-e6320> Message-ID: <4FA38FE6.1060507@gmail.com> Il 30/04/2012 16:22, Alessandro Menti ha scritto: > I was in your same situation, as one of my systems correctly recognized > that Precise was released, while another one not. After some quick > research, I think I've found the issue. > > Due to bug #944876 ([1]), which has just been fixed, if you have asked > KDE to prompt you to upgrade on regular distribution releases, it checks > only for new LTS releases instead. As the "meta-release-lts" file on the > Ubuntu site (used by the Update Manager to check for LTS upgrades, [2]) > does not mention Precise yet (it will do only when the first point > release of Precise is out, see bug #989334 at [3]), the Update Manager > will act as if there was no distribution upgrade available. > > Changing the /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades file manually did the > trick for me - try doing it, or install the new update-manager package > for Oneiric (it should be propagating across the mirrors right now, so > it should show up in a few hours or a day at most), then check that the > Distribution upgrade setting in the KDE System Settings application is > correct and proceed. > > Ciao, > Alessandro Menti > > [1] > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/944876 > [2] http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts > [3] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/989334 Hi Alessandro and All in the list, thank you All for your good info and links, now I resolved the issue, simply reading the bug opened in Launchpad and changing the "type" of the release in Muon (from LTS to Normal). Surely something has been corrected in the meanwhile... What I would like to know is is now I can "change" again my software-properties settings for the repositories from "Normal" to "LTS". Thanks again. Ciao -- Valter *Open Source is better!* KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org From gkourtev at gmail.com Fri May 4 08:23:57 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 11:23:57 +0300 Subject: 12.04 LTS Released In-Reply-To: <4FA38FE6.1060507@gmail.com> References: <20120426120633.GB12478@starsky.19inch.net> <4FA38FE6.1060507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1860596.g91m91KG1e@gkourtev-laptop> > > Hi Alessandro and All in the list, > > thank you All for your good info and links, now I resolved the issue, > simply reading the bug opened in Launchpad and changing the "type" of > the release in Muon (from LTS to Normal). Surely something has been > corrected in the meanwhile... > > What I would like to know is is now I can "change" again my > software-properties settings for the repositories from "Normal" to "LTS". > > Thanks again. > > Ciao When you open MUON's CONFIGURE SOFTWARE SOURCES, then click the tab UPDATES. At the bottom you can make the selection between normal releases and LTS releases. gk From moptop99 at gmail.com Fri May 4 14:11:02 2012 From: moptop99 at gmail.com (Matt Price) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:11:02 -0400 Subject: can't rename activities/no activiities settings In-Reply-To: <2756915.iNQHUB0Xxr@t520> References: <2756915.iNQHUB0Xxr@t520> Message-ID: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Steve Riley wrote: > On 2012-05-03 16:52:44 Matt Price wrote: >> >> any hints?  Kubuntu-desktop is installed and uptodate, and I seem to >> have everything else related to activities that I can find.  Is there >> a command I can issue at the command line maybw?  Thanks again, > > 1. Right-click the desktop background. You should see a menu like this: > > http://goo.gl/IcbD3 > > 2. Don't choose "Desktop Settings," but instead choose "Activities." The > Activity Manager will appear at the bottom of your screen: > > http://goo.gl/oZhpB > > 3.Click the wrench next to the Activity you want to rename (in the > illustration, it's currently called "New Activity"). Here, you can change the > name and the icon: > > http://goo.gl/8RlUN > > Hope this helps... > > ...Steve ah, that was super-helpful! in the default kubuntu theme (or maybe it's not the default theme -- maybe it's something I experimented with back at he dawn of time, and then forgot about?) the wrench is really hard for me to see. Now I'm really starting to get it -- this seems great so far! matt From gkourtev at gmail.com Fri May 4 15:53:32 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 18:53:32 +0300 Subject: Updates 4.8.3 Message-ID: <9973601.uHfTEmSHtk@gkourtev-laptop> Hi all, I need your advice. I tried to update my 12.04 machine through the PPA repository to KDE 4.8.3 but I have the below 32 packages kept back (i.e. not upgraded). Is this normal? Should I upgrade the other upgradable packages or else? Thanks, gk The following packages have been kept back: kde-window-manager kde-window-manager-common kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdm kinfocenter ksysguard ksysguardd libkdecorations4 libkephal4abi1 libkscreensaver5 libksgrd4 libksignalplotter4 libkwineffects1abi3 libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasmaclock4abi3 libplasmagenericshell4 libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libsolidcontrol4abi2 libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libtaskmanager4abi3 libweather-ion6 plasma- dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-netbook plasma-widgets-workspace From stvrly at gmail.com Fri May 4 17:44:20 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 10:44:20 -0700 Subject: Updates 4.8.3 In-Reply-To: <9973601.uHfTEmSHtk@gkourtev-laptop> References: <9973601.uHfTEmSHtk@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <3215144.BsMF76UkP8@t520> On 2012-05-04 18:53:32 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > Hi all, > > I need your advice. I tried to update my 12.04 machine through the PPA > repository to KDE 4.8.3 but I have the below 32 packages kept back (i.e. not > upgraded). Is this normal? Should I upgrade the other upgradable packages > or else? Thanks, Did you install the upgrades with sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ? ...Steve From ilkyest at pop.com.br Fri May 4 17:50:05 2012 From: ilkyest at pop.com.br (ilkyest at pop.com.br) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 14:50:05 -0300 Subject: Installing printer HP In-Reply-To: <1462349.QtAUrfCTok@gkourtev-laptop> References: <1462349.QtAUrfCTok@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <20120504145005.85909roxf5p5mabx@wajax.pop.com.br> I don't know what think more about this. On fedora, arch linux and Kubuntu, always the same annoying thing about my printers What makes the printer works fine is donwnload the foo2zjs driver, make, getweb, make install and AFTER all of this, install the printer. Ubuntu, nor Kubuntu and even the another distros I've tested, except mandriva one 2010, my HP P1005 always annoys me a little to make this work ----- Mensagem de gkourtev at gmail.com --------- Data: Thu, 03 May 2012 12:47:43 +0300 De: Georgi Kourtev Responder para: Kubuntu user technical support Assunto: Installing printer HP Para: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Kubuntu 12.04.  Fresh install.  I wanted to install a netwrok HP LaserJet > printer and never managed to get it work through CUPS or Setting--> Printers. > The printer is installed but cannot print due to error > "usr/lib/cups/filter/hpcups failed" > > The solution I found is to use konsole 'sudo hp-setup -i' as suggested here > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/gentoo-87/usr-libexec-cups-filter- > hpcups-failed-818393/. All works fine now. > > Did someone got the same issue?  is this a bug that needs to be open? > gk > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > ----- Final da mensagem de gkourtev at gmail.com ----- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gkourtev at gmail.com Fri May 4 18:07:56 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 21:07:56 +0300 Subject: Updates 4.8.3 In-Reply-To: <3215144.BsMF76UkP8@t520> References: <9973601.uHfTEmSHtk@gkourtev-laptop> <3215144.BsMF76UkP8@t520> Message-ID: I did sudo apt-get update. Gk На 04.05.2012 20:45 "Steve Riley" написа: > On 2012-05-04 18:53:32 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I need your advice. I tried to update my 12.04 machine through the PPA > > repository to KDE 4.8.3 but I have the below 32 packages kept back (i.e. > not > > upgraded). Is this normal? Should I upgrade the other upgradable > packages > > or else? Thanks, > > Did you install the upgrades with > > sudo apt-get upgrade > > or > > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > > ? > > ...Steve > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stvrly at gmail.com Fri May 4 18:22:25 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 11:22:25 -0700 Subject: Updates 4.8.3 In-Reply-To: References: <9973601.uHfTEmSHtk@gkourtev-laptop> <3215144.BsMF76UkP8@t520> Message-ID: <1922205.avJXGb2ZSA@t520> On 2012-05-04 21:07:56 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > I did sudo apt-get update. Try again, but this time with dist-upgrade. 4.8.3 installed without incident on both my laptops using this method. ...Steve From gkourtev at gmail.com Fri May 4 18:56:21 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 21:56:21 +0300 Subject: Updates 4.8.3 In-Reply-To: <1922205.avJXGb2ZSA@t520> References: <9973601.uHfTEmSHtk@gkourtev-laptop> <3215144.BsMF76UkP8@t520> <1922205.avJXGb2ZSA@t520> Message-ID: Thanks. What is the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade? 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URL: From gkourtev at gmail.com Fri May 4 19:16:19 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 22:16:19 +0300 Subject: Updates 4.8.3 In-Reply-To: <1922205.avJXGb2ZSA@t520> References: <9973601.uHfTEmSHtk@gkourtev-laptop> <1922205.avJXGb2ZSA@t520> Message-ID: <2481316.MduNUYyRxI@gkourtev-laptop> On Friday 04 May 2012 11:22:25 Steve Riley wrote: > On 2012-05-04 21:07:56 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > I did sudo apt-get update. > > Try again, but this time with dist-upgrade. 4.8.3 installed without incident > on both my laptops using this method. > > ...Steve Ah, here i found a good explanation, though it does not state what is better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool gk From clay at claydoh.com Fri May 4 19:39:43 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 15:39:43 -0400 Subject: Updates 4.8.3 In-Reply-To: <2481316.MduNUYyRxI@gkourtev-laptop> References: <9973601.uHfTEmSHtk@gkourtev-laptop> <1922205.avJXGb2ZSA@t520> <2481316.MduNUYyRxI@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <2354793.klRGy9RVxl@lark-latitude-d630> On Friday, May 04, 2012 10:16:19 PM Georgi Kourtev wrote: > On Friday 04 May 2012 11:22:25 Steve Riley wrote: > > On 2012-05-04 21:07:56 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > > I did sudo apt-get update. > > > > Try again, but this time with dist-upgrade. 4.8.3 installed without > > incident on both my laptops using this method. > > > > ...Steve > > Ah, here i found a good explanation, though it does not state what is > better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool > gk apt-get upgrade will upgrade you to newer package versions, but *not* install new ones (new kernel, etc) Dist-upgrade does this plus installs any new packages, say a new kernel version, or perhaps a new dependency one of the packages needs. Ubuntu's packaging, and Kubuntu's KDE updates from the ppa in particular, are geared towards the dist-upgrade method as there are often new or renamed items that go with the new software. -- clay From stvrly at gmail.com Fri May 4 19:42:44 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 12:42:44 -0700 Subject: Updates 4.8.3 In-Reply-To: <2481316.MduNUYyRxI@gkourtev-laptop> References: <9973601.uHfTEmSHtk@gkourtev-laptop> <1922205.avJXGb2ZSA@t520> <2481316.MduNUYyRxI@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <3082314.jxObMvUZKA@t520> On 2012-05-04 22:16:19 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > Ah, here i found a good explanation, though it does not state what is > better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool (...sending again, omitted the list in my response...) In my experience, "dist-upgrade" is more complete than "upgrade," because it can handle cases where dependencies bring in new packages that don't already exist. For example, say you currently have package foo:1.0 installed. foo:1.0 has no dependencies. Now it's time to upgrade to foo:1.1, and this version has a new dependency on bar:0.9. "apt-get upgrade" will hold foo back, because bar is currently not installed on your machine. "apt-get dist-upgrade" includes a dependency resolver and will not only upgrade foo:1.0 to foo:1.1 but also install bar:0.9. ...Steve From gkourtev at gmail.com Fri May 4 22:00:27 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 01:00:27 +0300 Subject: Kppp cannot be launched Message-ID: <1842701.JcpcbZNdgk@gkourtev-laptop> 12.04, KDE 4.8.3 I was trying to launch Kppp for USB wireless modem, but the program do not open. Through terminal I got this: /usr/bin/kppp: Permission denied With sudo kppp it starts however. How can this be corrected? gk From thomas at tanghus.net Fri May 4 22:11:06 2012 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Tanghus Olsen) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 00:11:06 +0200 Subject: Kppp cannot be launched In-Reply-To: <1842701.JcpcbZNdgk@gkourtev-laptop> References: <1842701.JcpcbZNdgk@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <5768031.YfLa7TAasQ@tanghus> On Saturday 05 May 2012 01:00 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > 12.04, KDE 4.8.3 > > I was trying to launch Kppp for USB wireless modem, but the program do not > open. Through terminal I got this: > > /usr/bin/kppp: Permission denied > > With sudo kppp it starts however. How can this be corrected? > gk sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/kppp Why do you use kppp? The network manager handles wireless modems just fine afaik. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus Olsen From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Fri May 4 22:30:40 2012 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 01:30:40 +0300 Subject: Kppp cannot be launched In-Reply-To: <5768031.YfLa7TAasQ@tanghus> References: <1842701.JcpcbZNdgk@gkourtev-laptop> <5768031.YfLa7TAasQ@tanghus> Message-ID: <2680226.zdcaNasVlM@hamra> On Saturday May 5 2012 00:11:06 Thomas Tanghus Olsen wrote: > On Saturday 05 May 2012 01:00 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > 12.04, KDE 4.8.3 > > > > I was trying to launch Kppp for USB wireless modem, but the program do not > > open. Through terminal I got this: > > > > /usr/bin/kppp: Permission denied > > > > With sudo kppp it starts however. How can this be corrected? > > gk > > sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/kppp > > Why do you use kppp? The network manager handles wireless modems just fine > afaik. > > -- > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards > > Thomas Tanghus Olsen > check the permissions on /usr/bin/kppp kppp is a program that needs to be root to function, on my computer i see that i has the setuid permission, so it always runs as root, regardless of who starts it, maybe that's what you're missing? -rwsr-xr-- 1 root dialout 546060 2012-04-06 12:39 /usr/bin/kppp these commands should get you there: sudo chown root:dialout /usr/bin/kppp sudo chmod 4754 /usr/bin/kppp after that, you should be able to run kppp as non-root, and it'll function. -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. 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Crawford) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 17:18:26 -0700 Subject: Syncing playlists between Amarok2 and an MTP device Message-ID: I'm not a big fan of Amarok 2 but since the reps I was using for 1.4 are no longer around, I'm sort of stuck with it. And now I can't figure out how to synchronize my playlists between Amarok and my Creative Zen MP3 player. Has anyone on this list figured out how to do that? -- Sláinte, Richard S. Crawford (richard at underpope.com) http://www.underpope.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/underpope Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/underpope Google+: http://gplus.to/underpope -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The network manager handles wireless modems just fine > afaik. > > -- > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards > > Thomas Tanghus Olsen > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat May 5 06:38:13 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 08:38:13 +0200 Subject: Syncing playlists between Amarok2 and an MTP device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FA4CAD5.8050901@gmail.com> On 05/05/12 02:18, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > I'm not a big fan of Amarok 2 but since the reps I was using for 1.4 are > no longer around, I'm sort of stuck with it. And now I can't figure out > how to synchronize my playlists between Amarok and my Creative Zen MP3 > player. Has anyone on this list figured out how to do that? > > > > -- > Sláinte, Cheers to you too or skål in my native language. Amarok2 is in my opinion useless in these matters, have not found any way of doing what you ask about (last attempt 2 days ago). Try Clementine, a QT fork of 1.4 Sinclair From antonxx at gmx.de Sat May 5 07:55:44 2012 From: antonxx at gmx.de (Anton) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 09:55:44 +0200 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 References: Message-ID: Anton wrote: > Hi, > > I used KMail since I uses KDE (first Suse then Kubuntu). > But starting with KMail2 in Kubuntu 11.10 I got > to much problems and I switched to Thunderbird. > > Now my question: does anybody still use KMail2 and if yes, > does it work now in 12.04. > > Thanks > > Anton Thanks for the information ... I will give it a try or move to thunderbird (even if I prefer Kmail :-) ) Anton From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat May 5 08:00:48 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 10:00:48 +0200 Subject: Updates 4.8.3 In-Reply-To: <3082314.jxObMvUZKA@t520> References: <9973601.uHfTEmSHtk@gkourtev-laptop> <1922205.avJXGb2ZSA@t520> <2481316.MduNUYyRxI@gkourtev-laptop> <3082314.jxObMvUZKA@t520> Message-ID: <4FA4DE30.3040108@gmail.com> On 04/05/12 21:42, Steve Riley wrote: > On 2012-05-04 22:16:19 Georgi Kourtev wrote: >> >> Ah, here i found a good explanation, though it does not state what is >> better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool > > (...sending again, omitted the list in my response...) > > In my experience, "dist-upgrade" is more complete than "upgrade," because it > can handle cases where dependencies bring in new packages that don't already > exist. > > For example, say you currently have package foo:1.0 installed. foo:1.0 has no > dependencies. Now it's time to upgrade to foo:1.1, and this version has a new > dependency on bar:0.9. "apt-get upgrade" will hold foo back, because bar is > currently not installed on your machine. "apt-get dist-upgrade" includes a > dependency resolver and will not only upgrade foo:1.0 to foo:1.1 but also > install bar:0.9. for an upgrade of KDE dist-upgrade should not be necessary as it does not involve kernel etc. I did mine via normal upgrade and all went well. I suspect a problem with local mirrors or some earlier upgrade not completed. From antonxx at gmx.de Sat May 5 08:07:14 2012 From: antonxx at gmx.de (Anton) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 10:07:14 +0200 Subject: KMail2 backup: can ignore the akonadi stuff? Message-ID: Hi, I want to switch from Kubuntu 11.10 to 12.04. In earlier time backup of my mails was easy: tar the .kde folder and you're done. Now we have akonadi (and nepomuk) & a mysql server running in my opinion: 1. overkill: a simple file based sqlite would have beet simpler 2. security issue due to indexing: Immagine I have a *temporarily* mail with some "private" stuff like credit card number / password. If I delete (or wipe) my email: how can I get sure that this data is *not* surviving as ghost in some index file. The same issue nepomuk: I do not want a system using constantly cpu/memory/disk indexing stuff which I want to search only from time to time. I would prefer to search explicitly when I need to, but nepomuk/akonady (or only akonady do not remember) need to run or Kontakt & friends do not work anymore. Ok, after my remarky (yes I am whining a little bit) I have one question: Is it enough to back up the .kde folder *ignoring* the akonadi mysql database? Or will I have some mails lost? Thanks Anton From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat May 5 08:12:28 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 10:12:28 +0200 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FA4E0EC.1030705@gmail.com> On 05/05/12 09:55, Anton wrote: > Anton wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I used KMail since I uses KDE (first Suse then Kubuntu). >> But starting with KMail2 in Kubuntu 11.10 I got >> to much problems and I switched to Thunderbird. >> >> Now my question: does anybody still use KMail2 and if yes, >> does it work now in 12.04. >> To answer this: yes I and many others do though it is sometimes a bumpy ride. I only use pop3 accounts and have few problems. Others report of major headaches with imap, google more often than others (note just my observations). In 12.04 the version supplied is 4.8.2 (or 3 if you just upgraded) where there is a known problem that autocompletion of addresses from addressbooks while composing a mail is disabled. I also think Groups/Distribution Lists are not working. Sinclair From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Sat May 5 08:18:16 2012 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 09:18:16 +0100 Subject: KMail2 backup: can ignore the akonadi stuff? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3280992.pCNdREn5tp@rachael> On Saturday 05 May 2012 10:07:14 Anton wrote: > Hi, > > I want to switch from Kubuntu 11.10 to 12.04. > > In earlier time backup of my mails was easy: > tar the .kde folder and you're done. > > Now we have akonadi (and nepomuk) & a mysql server running > in my opinion: > 1. overkill: a simple file based sqlite would have beet simpler > 2. security issue due to indexing: > Immagine I have a *temporarily* mail with some > "private" stuff like credit card number / password. > If I delete (or wipe) my email: how can I get sure > that this data is *not* surviving as ghost in some index file. > The same issue nepomuk: I do not want a system using constantly > cpu/memory/disk indexing stuff which I want to search only > from time to time. > I would prefer to search explicitly when I need to, but nepomuk/akonady > (or only akonady do not remember) need to run or Kontakt & friends do > not work anymore. May I add a 3rd: 3. It makes backing up of emails, contacts etc a nightmare. > Ok, after my remarky (yes I am whining a little bit) I have one question: > > Is it enough to back up the .kde folder *ignoring* the akonadi > mysql database? I don't think emails are stored in .kde any more, instead they are stored in the .local/share folder in .local_mail_directory. > Or will I have some mails lost? > > Thanks > > Anton -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat May 5 09:12:22 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 11:12:22 +0200 Subject: KMail2 backup: can ignore the akonadi stuff? In-Reply-To: <3280992.pCNdREn5tp@rachael> References: <3280992.pCNdREn5tp@rachael> Message-ID: <4FA4EEF6.70609@gmail.com> On 05/05/12 10:18, Mark Fraser wrote: > On Saturday 05 May 2012 10:07:14 Anton wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I want to switch from Kubuntu 11.10 to 12.04. >> >> In earlier time backup of my mails was easy: >> tar the .kde folder and you're done. >> >> Now we have akonadi (and nepomuk)& a mysql server running >> in my opinion: >> 1. overkill: a simple file based sqlite would have beet simpler >> 2. security issue due to indexing: >> Immagine I have a *temporarily* mail with some >> "private" stuff like credit card number / password. >> If I delete (or wipe) my email: how can I get sure >> that this data is *not* surviving as ghost in some index file. >> The same issue nepomuk: I do not want a system using constantly >> cpu/memory/disk indexing stuff which I want to search only >> from time to time. >> I would prefer to search explicitly when I need to, but nepomuk/akonady >> (or only akonady do not remember) need to run or Kontakt& friends do >> not work anymore. > > May I add a 3rd: > 3. It makes backing up of emails, contacts etc a nightmare. > >> Ok, after my remarky (yes I am whining a little bit) I have one question: >> >> Is it enough to back up the .kde folder *ignoring* the akonadi >> mysql database? > > I don't think emails are stored in .kde any more, instead they are stored in > the .local/share folder in .local_mail_directory. > >> Or will I have some mails lost? >> As far as I understand it your physical emails are still stored in a folder (maildir) or file (mbox) somewhere. The location might differ depending on the age of your installation and upgrades gone through etc. Currently the default is HOME/.local/share/local_mail and HOME/.local/share/.local-mail.directory. The akonadi and nepomuk stuff are "only" databases related to "just about everything". I once deleted all akonadi stuff and boy was I happy to have a backup to restore. All accounts, settings etc. seem to be in akonadi "somehow" but the raw data is still in folders. Nepomuk seems to be more about "only" searching/indexing things. I have several times deleted the nepomuk folder when search simply stopped working. Give it time to reindex and all is back where you left. If you also use Windows I would say Akonadi is a bit like the registry. Delete it and you basically have to start all over with settings, accounts etc. Like a fresh install - but your files are still there. Others may agree or disagree but I generally do not touch the akonadi if I can avoid it, I just backup all I can of HOME folder and subfolders. Sinclair From thomas at tanghus.net Sat May 5 09:18:17 2012 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Tanghus) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 11:18:17 +0200 Subject: Kppp cannot be launched In-Reply-To: References: <1842701.JcpcbZNdgk@gkourtev-laptop> <5768031.YfLa7TAasQ@tanghus> Message-ID: <121486070.xs4aDLWrkS@tanghus> On Saturday 05 May 2012 08:14 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > На 05.05.2012 01:12 "Thomas Tanghus Olsen" написа: > > On Saturday 05 May 2012 01:00 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > > 12.04, KDE 4.8.3 > > > > > > I was trying to launch Kppp for USB wireless modem, but the program do > > > > not > > > > > open. Through terminal I got this: > > > > > > /usr/bin/kppp: Permission denied > > > > > > With sudo kppp it starts however. How can this be corrected? > > > gk > > > > sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/kppp > > > > Why do you use kppp? The network manager handles wireless modems just fine > > afaik. > > > Strangely enough, when I plug the modem, network manager wireless modem tab > is not active. This issue i jave since 11.04. Before that it worked just > fine. Weird. I don't use it myself, but if I push the wrong button on my phone, it automatically pops up ready to connect to my provider. I got a bit confused first time it happened :-P -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in mailing lists? From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat May 5 09:29:04 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 11:29:04 +0200 Subject: Kppp cannot be launched In-Reply-To: <121486070.xs4aDLWrkS@tanghus> References: <1842701.JcpcbZNdgk@gkourtev-laptop> <5768031.YfLa7TAasQ@tanghus> <121486070.xs4aDLWrkS@tanghus> Message-ID: <4FA4F2E0.1050608@gmail.com> On 05/05/12 11:18, Thomas Tanghus wrote: > On Saturday 05 May 2012 08:14 Georgi Kourtev wrote: >> На 05.05.2012 01:12 "Thomas Tanghus Olsen" написа: >>> On Saturday 05 May 2012 01:00 Georgi Kourtev wrote: >>>> 12.04, KDE 4.8.3 >>>> >>>> I was trying to launch Kppp for USB wireless modem, but the program do >>> >>> not >>> >>>> open. Through terminal I got this: >>>> >>>> /usr/bin/kppp: Permission denied >>>> >>>> With sudo kppp it starts however. How can this be corrected? >>>> gk >>> >>> sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/kppp >>> >>> Why do you use kppp? The network manager handles wireless modems just fine >>> afaik. >>> >> Strangely enough, when I plug the modem, network manager wireless modem tab >> is not active. This issue i jave since 11.04. Before that it worked just >> fine. > > Weird. I don't use it myself, but if I push the wrong button on my phone, it > automatically pops up ready to connect to my provider. I got a bit confused > first time it happened :-P > try "kdesudo kppp", that is what I used when I was still using kppp. I changed the launcher/menu to that command as well. Otherwise good old cli command wvdial still beats them all.. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat May 5 09:54:18 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 11:54:18 +0200 Subject: Kppp cannot be launched In-Reply-To: References: <1842701.JcpcbZNdgk@gkourtev-laptop> <5768031.YfLa7TAasQ@tanghus> Message-ID: <4FA4F8CA.1020706@gmail.com> On 05/05/12 07:14, Georgi Kourtev wrote: > Strangely enough, when I plug the modem, network manager wireless modem > tab is not active. This issue i jave since 11.04. Before that it worked > just fine. check if usb-modeswitch is installed. If not install, if it is try removing it and see what happens. What usbmodem is recognized and which is not has changed (for me) between upgrades. From clay at claydoh.com Sat May 5 15:13:38 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 11:13:38 -0400 Subject: Updates 4.8.3 In-Reply-To: <4FA4DE30.3040108@gmail.com> References: <9973601.uHfTEmSHtk@gkourtev-laptop> <3082314.jxObMvUZKA@t520> <4FA4DE30.3040108@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1678590.obb5gJYWM7@lark-latitude-d630> On Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:00:48 AM O. Sinclair wrote: > On 04/05/12 21:42, Steve Riley wrote: > > On 2012-05-04 22:16:19 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > >> Ah, here i found a good explanation, though it does not state what is > >> better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool > > > > (...sending again, omitted the list in my response...) > > > > In my experience, "dist-upgrade" is more complete than "upgrade," because > > it can handle cases where dependencies bring in new packages that don't > > already exist. > > > > For example, say you currently have package foo:1.0 installed. foo:1.0 has > > no dependencies. Now it's time to upgrade to foo:1.1, and this version > > has a new dependency on bar:0.9. "apt-get upgrade" will hold foo back, > > because bar is currently not installed on your machine. "apt-get > > dist-upgrade" includes a dependency resolver and will not only upgrade > > foo:1.0 to foo:1.1 but also install bar:0.9. > > for an upgrade of KDE dist-upgrade should not be necessary as it does > not involve kernel etc. I did mine via normal upgrade and all went well. > > I suspect a problem with local mirrors or some earlier upgrade not > completed. Incorrect, as upgrading to KDE 4.8.3 requires a couple of new packages to be installed. A stock setup may not require it, but it is quite possible some added KDE bits may need some. -- clay From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat May 5 15:20:39 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 17:20:39 +0200 Subject: Updates 4.8.3 In-Reply-To: <1678590.obb5gJYWM7@lark-latitude-d630> References: <9973601.uHfTEmSHtk@gkourtev-laptop> <3082314.jxObMvUZKA@t520> <4FA4DE30.3040108@gmail.com> <1678590.obb5gJYWM7@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <4FA54547.2000707@gmail.com> On 05/05/12 17:13, Clay Weber wrote: > On Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:00:48 AM O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 04/05/12 21:42, Steve Riley wrote: >>> On 2012-05-04 22:16:19 Georgi Kourtev wrote: >>>> Ah, here i found a good explanation, though it does not state what is >>>> better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool >>> >>> (...sending again, omitted the list in my response...) >>> >>> In my experience, "dist-upgrade" is more complete than "upgrade," because >>> it can handle cases where dependencies bring in new packages that don't >>> already exist. >>> >>> For example, say you currently have package foo:1.0 installed. foo:1.0 has >>> no dependencies. Now it's time to upgrade to foo:1.1, and this version >>> has a new dependency on bar:0.9. "apt-get upgrade" will hold foo back, >>> because bar is currently not installed on your machine. "apt-get >>> dist-upgrade" includes a dependency resolver and will not only upgrade >>> foo:1.0 to foo:1.1 but also install bar:0.9. >> >> for an upgrade of KDE dist-upgrade should not be necessary as it does >> not involve kernel etc. I did mine via normal upgrade and all went well. >> >> I suspect a problem with local mirrors or some earlier upgrade not >> completed. > > Incorrect, as upgrading to KDE 4.8.3 requires a couple of new packages to be > installed. A stock setup may not require it, but it is quite possible some > added KDE bits may need some. In which case I think kubuntu.org would have told you that dist-upgrade is/was necessary. For me it was not. And I can at least not remember that a KDE x.x.x upgrade ever was. From clay at claydoh.com Sat May 5 16:03:36 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 12:03:36 -0400 Subject: Updates 4.8.3 In-Reply-To: <4FA54547.2000707@gmail.com> References: <9973601.uHfTEmSHtk@gkourtev-laptop> <1678590.obb5gJYWM7@lark-latitude-d630> <4FA54547.2000707@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6687381.SBcL5e2rfW@lark-latitude-d630> On Saturday, May 05, 2012 05:20:39 PM O. Sinclair wrote: > On 05/05/12 17:13, Clay Weber wrote: > > On Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:00:48 AM O. Sinclair wrote: > >> On 04/05/12 21:42, Steve Riley wrote: > >>> On 2012-05-04 22:16:19 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > >>>> Ah, here i found a good explanation, though it does not state what is > >>>> better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool > >>> > >>> (...sending again, omitted the list in my response...) > >>> > >>> In my experience, "dist-upgrade" is more complete than "upgrade," > >>> because > >>> it can handle cases where dependencies bring in new packages that don't > >>> already exist. > >>> > >>> For example, say you currently have package foo:1.0 installed. foo:1.0 > >>> has > >>> no dependencies. Now it's time to upgrade to foo:1.1, and this version > >>> has a new dependency on bar:0.9. "apt-get upgrade" will hold foo back, > >>> because bar is currently not installed on your machine. "apt-get > >>> dist-upgrade" includes a dependency resolver and will not only upgrade > >>> foo:1.0 to foo:1.1 but also install bar:0.9. > >> > >> for an upgrade of KDE dist-upgrade should not be necessary as it does > >> not involve kernel etc. I did mine via normal upgrade and all went well. > >> > >> I suspect a problem with local mirrors or some earlier upgrade not > >> completed. > > > > Incorrect, as upgrading to KDE 4.8.3 requires a couple of new packages to > > be installed. A stock setup may not require it, but it is quite possible > > some added KDE bits may need some. > > In which case I think kubuntu.org would have told you that dist-upgrade > is/was necessary. For me it was not. And I can at least not remember > that a KDE x.x.x upgrade ever was. While isn't isn't a normal occurrence for new packages to be required, but it does happen, and is even more likely if any extra programs are installed after a base install. All the gui package managers use this method by default, and are the preferred method of package management. But it definitely sufficient enough to run upgrade, then try dist-upgrade if there are held packages. -- clay From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat May 5 16:21:41 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 12:21:41 -0400 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4114239.r5U4mpJSLJ@linux1> On Saturday, May 05, 2012 09:55:44 AM Anton wrote: > Anton wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I used KMail since I uses KDE (first Suse then Kubuntu). > > But starting with KMail2 in Kubuntu 11.10 I got > > to much problems and I switched to Thunderbird. > > > > Now my question: does anybody still use KMail2 and if yes, > > does it work now in 12.04. > > > > Thanks > > > > Anton > > Thanks for the information ... I will give it a try > or move to thunderbird (even if I prefer Kmail :-) ) > > Anton I'm using kmail2 and it works fine except for automatic fill-in from the address book. It does work with 'recent addresses' which is enough for me. I might have to use 'select' from the address book about every other day. From jonorland at gmail.com Sat May 5 18:13:18 2012 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 20:13:18 +0200 Subject: Ati s-video and vga Ubuntu 12.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2012/5/5 Dennis Linux : > Dear Linux users, > > The s-video from my Ati Radeo 9250 give's me 800x600 resolution with no good > fit to my crt Philips screen in Ubuntu 12.04 and Kubuntu. > When i use the vga port there's no problem with the resolution. > How can i get a beter resolution with my s-video connection? > The screen doesn't recognize my tv. > I found this forum thread containing some useful information. http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/558082 From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Sat May 5 19:44:12 2012 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Isak_Enstr=C3=B6m?=) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 21:44:12 +0200 Subject: Ati s-video and vga Ubuntu 12.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2012/5/5 Jonas Norlander > 2012/5/5 Dennis Linux : > > Dear Linux users, > > > > The s-video from my Ati Radeo 9250 give's me 800x600 resolution with no > good > > fit to my crt Philips screen in Ubuntu 12.04 and Kubuntu. > > When i use the vga port there's no problem with the resolution. > > How can i get a beter resolution with my s-video connection? > > The screen doesn't recognize my tv. > > > > I found this forum thread containing some useful information. > > http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/558082 > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Unfortunately 800x600 is the highest possible resolution for s-video with the open source radeon drivers. Since your card is no longer supported by AMD you're out of luck getting a higher resolution, but you can use extended desktop with the help of xrandr (man xrandr in a terminal). To use extended desktop I run this command: xrandr --output S-video --mode 800x600 --right-of LVDS --output LVDS --auto & LVDS is the name of my laptop screen so you need to adjust to whatever you are using. ~~ Isak __ Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carloscarnero at gmail.com Sat May 5 23:57:29 2012 From: carloscarnero at gmail.com (Carlos A. Carnero Delgado) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 19:57:29 -0400 Subject: Problem with keyboard distribution and diacritics (12.04) Message-ID: Hello, I have a problem with the keyboard distribution and Kubuntu 12.04. The physical keyboard on this PC is laid out for Latin America (i.e., it has the Ñ key) so I did what I have done in the past many times: set Spanish (latin american) as the proper keyboard distribution. Everything works except for very annoying exceptions: diacritics. I break down below the results of simple tests in case someone can see a pattern evolving: * in LibreOffice applications diacritics will not work at all: neither acute accents (úéí) nor diæresis (üëï). * in KDE native applications I can compose all characters except the diæresis. The physical (dead) key has both the acute accent and (shift) the diæresis. When I try to use the latter, it will just interpret it as the acute accent (as if the shift modifier is not working.) * in Firefox and Komodo Edit, both GTK-based applications IIRC, I can write anything. I just included here for completeness sake. Please note that, while this keyboard has dead keys (the one with the acute accent and the diæresis being one of them), there is no need to use the compose key when writing Spanish texts. Besides, in *this* particular keyboard I have never needed to configure it in the past. Ubuntu/Gnome 10.04 LTS did not have this minor problem. And I just booted into the Ubuntu/Unity 12.04 live CD and everything works as expected. Is there anything I can check? TIA, Carlos. From stvrly at gmail.com Sun May 6 07:07:49 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 00:07:49 -0700 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: References: <3495699.HJWz1Zr2Pu@x1> Message-ID: <5435678.D6Stk0o1eO@x1> On 2012-05-04 15:31:41 Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > > I gave SQLite a go as per your directions on the forums - mixed > results. It initially worked and did feel a bit more responsive, but > after I left it a few hours to index my emails via th feeder the > system went nuts. dbus died, 1000's of notifications about being > unable to access gmail. I nuked it and resteup using mysql - seems ok > so far How many emails do you have? I am generally a deleter of mails, so I never have more than 300 spread across inbox, sent mail, and various folders. Perhaps I'm not stressing Akonadi enough :) ...Steve From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun May 6 08:03:58 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 18:03:58 +1000 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <5435678.D6Stk0o1eO@x1> References: <5435678.D6Stk0o1eO@x1> Message-ID: <1981437.hlTY8qI8EJ@lindsay-kubuntu-12> On Sun, 6 May 2012 12:07:49 AM Steve Riley wrote: > How many emails do you have? I am generally a deleter of mails, so I never > have more than 300 spread across inbox, sent mail, and various folders. > Perhaps I'm not stressing Akonadi enough About 10,000 in one account, 12,000 in another :) -- Lindsay -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From mailing-lists-mmvi at bretschneidernet.de Sun May 6 14:56:26 2012 From: mailing-lists-mmvi at bretschneidernet.de (Martin Bretschneider) Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 16:56:26 +0200 Subject: muon-updater/ PolicyKit: want to know password for updates Message-ID: <4FA6911A.9090109@bretschneidernet.de> Hi, if you get notifified by muon-updater in 12.04 (and at least in 11.10), the user has to enter his password in order to install (security) updates. I guess that the user should *not* be asked for updates. He should only be asked if he wants to install or remove software. This is especially usefull for unexperienced computer users. There is the package policykit-desktop-privileges for this purpose that has the following description: ------------------------------------------------------------------- This package provides a set of PolicyKit privileges which allow Administrators to run common actions without being asked for their password: * mounting and checking internal disk drives (through udisks) * setting the CPU speed and policy (through the GNOME CPU frequency applet) * setting the time and timezone (through the GNOME clock applet or through KDE) * Adding/changing system-wide NetworkManager connections * Update already installed software * Configure printers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You see, the second to last says it. But it does not work here. It seems that the functionality of the package is in /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla with the following part: --------------------------- [Update already installed software] Identity=unix-group:admin;unix-group:sudo Action=org.debian.apt.upgrade-packages ResultActive=yes ---------------------------------------- My main user is member of the the group "admin" and since a week also "sudo". But I am still asked for a password. Is this a kubuntu problem? Do you know a solution. Is it a bug of the package policykit-desktop-privileges, polkit-kde-1 or muon-updater? TIA and kind regards from Martin From stvrly at gmail.com Mon May 7 04:01:35 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 21:01:35 -0700 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <1981437.hlTY8qI8EJ@lindsay-kubuntu-12> References: <5435678.D6Stk0o1eO@x1> <1981437.hlTY8qI8EJ@lindsay-kubuntu-12> Message-ID: <5328386.Ugb88Y7MgZ@x1> On 2012-05-06 18:03:58 Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > > About 10,000 in one account, 12,000 in another :) Wow! You know, the [Del] key is the shiniest one on my keyboard. Now I think I know why :) ...Steve From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon May 7 07:14:43 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 09:14:43 +0200 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <5328386.Ugb88Y7MgZ@x1> References: <5435678.D6Stk0o1eO@x1> <1981437.hlTY8qI8EJ@lindsay-kubuntu-12> <5328386.Ugb88Y7MgZ@x1> Message-ID: <4FA77663.5030003@gmail.com> On 07/05/12 06:01, Steve Riley wrote: > On 2012-05-06 18:03:58 Lindsay Mathieson wrote: >> >> About 10,000 in one account, 12,000 in another :) > > Wow! You know, the [Del] key is the shiniest one on my keyboard. Now I think I > know why :) > > ...Steve > > or the "expire" functions in folders, something I use. All mail deleted after a set time unless you mark them "important". From basroufs at gmail.com Mon May 7 12:08:48 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - message in English) Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 14:08:48 +0200 Subject: thanks for all your efforts so far. Message-ID: <1924625.UBt9gGsh2U@viaconsensus-travel> Hello Steve, With respect to MySQL and SQLite along with Kontact: thanks for all your efforts so far. I have checked your ideas in your latest post to the Kubuntu forums today. See at and below this post for more details: http://bit.ly/IRNoze After my travel I will go on with my attempts to find some solution or workaround - I will report my findings to a few relevant forums then. Respectfully yours, Bas Roufs. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands E. BasRoufs at gmail.com Mob. +31 6 446 835 10 Tel. +31 30 785 40 Skype, Google Talk: basroufs Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu Viaconsensus.nl RainbowGathering.eu Open source OS: Linux Kubuntu 12.04. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sinclair) Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 16:47:57 +0200 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <1439520.UTHreCkTk9@linux1> References: <1981437.hlTY8qI8EJ@lindsay-kubuntu-12> <5328386.Ugb88Y7MgZ@x1> <1439520.UTHreCkTk9@linux1> Message-ID: <4FA7E09D.5090403@gmail.com> On 07/05/12 15:38, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Sunday, May 06, 2012 09:01:35 PM Steve Riley wrote: > > > On 2012-05-06 18:03:58 Lindsay Mathieson > wrote: > > > > About 10,000 in one account, 12,000 in another :) > > > > > > Wow! You know, the [Del] key is the shiniest one on my keyboard. Now > I think > > > I know why :) > > > > > > ...Steve > > Has anyone noticed that filters don't seem to work in kmail2? > > All in all, kmail2 is a step backwards from 11.10 > > > they work for me so long as they have one action. Action two, regardless what it is, do not seem to work. Eg spam - the filter gets set as spam. Next filter moves it to spam but refuse to set it as read. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon May 7 15:00:43 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 11:00:43 -0400 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <4FA7E09D.5090403@gmail.com> References: <1439520.UTHreCkTk9@linux1> <4FA7E09D.5090403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2018750.uvBX7IEJnG@linux1> On Monday, May 07, 2012 04:47:57 PM O. Sinclair wrote: > they work for me so long as they have one action. Action two, regardless > what it is, do not seem to work. > > Eg spam - the filter gets set as spam. Next filter moves it to spam but > refuse to set it as read. Interesting.... both of the filters I have have two actions, but the 'minus' sign to remove the 2nd one is gray'd out.... another bug I guess. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stvrly at gmail.com Mon May 7 18:15:35 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 11:15:35 -0700 Subject: thanks for all your efforts so far. In-Reply-To: <1924625.UBt9gGsh2U@viaconsensus-travel> References: <1924625.UBt9gGsh2U@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <5813105.PxHaM09gKp@t520> On 2012-05-07 14:08:48 Bas Roufs - message in English wrote: > > Hello Steve, > With respect to MySQL and SQLite along with Kontact: thanks for all your > efforts so far. I have checked your ideas in your latest post to the Kubuntu > forums today. See at and below this post for more details: > http://bit.ly/IRNoze > After my travel I will go on with my attempts to find some solution or > workaround - I will report my findings to a few relevant forums then. > Respectfully yours, > Bas Roufs. Hi, Bas. I replied to you at the forum; I'll include my reply here, too, for the benefit of list members... It is unfortunate that Akonadi and Nepomuk require what amounts to two full-on databases to function: MySQL for Akonadi and Virtuoso for Nepomuk. At one time, there was effort to create a Virtuoso backend for Akonadi, so that we could do everything with a single database. That work has, alas, stalled. ...Steve From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Mon May 7 22:54:50 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 08:54:50 +1000 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <5328386.Ugb88Y7MgZ@x1> References: <1981437.hlTY8qI8EJ@lindsay-kubuntu-12> <5328386.Ugb88Y7MgZ@x1> Message-ID: <44566239.qa1a2htnP2@lindsay-kubuntu-12> On Sun, 6 May 2012 09:01:35 PM Steve Riley wrote: > Wow! You know, the [Del] key is the shiniest one on my keyboard. Now I think > I know why One account is my work account, we're required to keep all our emails. Also there's a lot of historical dev & client knowledge buried in it. The other one is my Gmail account. I just tend not to worry about deleting stuff from it. On both of them I run my filters server side - I find it much easier and more reliable. I tend to access my email from many locations - web and desktop. -- Lindsay -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From stvrly at gmail.com Mon May 7 23:05:57 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 16:05:57 -0700 Subject: Does KMail2 work better in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <44566239.qa1a2htnP2@lindsay-kubuntu-12> References: <5328386.Ugb88Y7MgZ@x1> <44566239.qa1a2htnP2@lindsay-kubuntu-12> Message-ID: <1564181.nYspcq8XbI@t520> On 2012-05-08 08:54:50 Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > > On both of them I run my filters server side - I find it much easier and > more reliable. I tend to access my email from many locations - web and > desktop. -- Same here. My laptops are really nothing more than glorified display engines. I keep everything in various cloud providers (Google and Dropbox, mostly) and just sync to the laptops. That said, I'm becoming a bit worried that Google has too much of my stuff. So I'm in the process of learning OwnCloud, using the free tier at Amazon Web Services. I like OwnCloud very much. Once version 4 comes out, and I get some hands-on time with it, I plan to migrate everything away from Google et. al. and move everything to my own OwnCloud. Not sure yet whether I'll keep it in AWS or try a different provider. I've got about a terabyte of movies, music, and photos; I think AWS will be somewhat expensive for all that. ...Steve From gkourtev at gmail.com Tue May 8 08:37:40 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 11:37:40 +0300 Subject: No video on Skype Message-ID: <53470765.QxCVOFsgkl@gkourtev-laptop> Fresh install of Kubuntu 12.04, 64 bit, KDE 4.8.3 Laptop DELL Inspiron 1525 with built-in camera Skype (beta) 2.2.0.35 In Skype the video is not working. When I go on Skype's video device setting the drop down menu says 'no device found'. Googled a bit but couldn't find anything meaningful. Any shared knowledge is appreciated. gk From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue May 8 08:39:00 2012 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 10:39:00 +0200 Subject: HELP! NFS Kubuntu 11.10 Message-ID: Anyone have any ideas about how to solve this? I am a NFS newbie but good with Linux otherwise. I am having a hell of a time getting NFS to work. I think the problem is that portmap was removed but I am not to sure. So I am starting with the basic question of how to you set up NFS on Kubuntu 11.10 I am quite at home with command line and vim btw. etc/exports # setting up the server 192.168.2.11 and the client is 192.168.2.45 /home/douglas/KidMovies  192.168.2.45(rw,insecure,async,no_subtree_check) /home/douglas/Pictures 192.168.2.45(rw,insecure,async,no_subtree_check) /etc/hosts.allow portmap: 192.168.2.45 lockd: 192.168.2.45 rquotad: 192.168.2.45 mountd: 192.168.2.45 statd: 192.168.2.45 nfsd: 192.168.2.45 /etc/hosts.deny ALL: ALL douglas at FishWorld:~$ sudo showmount -a [sudo] password for douglas: clnt_create: RPC: Port mapper failure - Authentication error douglas at FishWorld:~$ sudo showmount clnt_create: RPC: Port mapper failure - Authentication error douglas at FishWorld:~$ sudo showmount -e 192.168.2.11 clnt_create: RPC: Port mapper failure - Authentication error douglas at FishWorld:~$ sudo showmount -e 192.168.2.45 rpc mount export: RPC: Authentication error; why = Failed (unspecified error) douglas at FishWorld:~$ Thanks! -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From info at alvin.be Tue May 8 08:54:41 2012 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 10:54:41 +0200 Subject: HELP! NFS Kubuntu 11.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201205081054.41765.info@alvin.be> On Tuesday 08 May 2012 10:39:00 Knapp wrote: > Anyone have any ideas about how to solve this? I am a NFS newbie but > good with Linux otherwise. > > I am having a hell of a time getting NFS to work. I think the problem > is that portmap was removed but I am not to sure. It was. You need to install the /nfs-kernel-server/ package on the server and /nfs-common/ on the client for this basic functionality. > So I am starting with the basic question of how to you set up NFS on > Kubuntu 11.10 > I am quite at home with command line and vim btw. > > etc/exports > # setting up the server 192.168.2.11 and the client is 192.168.2.45 > > /home/douglas/KidMovies 192.168.2.45(rw,insecure,async,no_subtree_check) > /home/douglas/Pictures 192.168.2.45(rw,insecure,async,no_subtree_check) That looks fine (for NFSv3). > /etc/hosts.allow > [..] The usage of TCP wrappers is optional Also check the official documentation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-file-system.html From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue May 8 09:02:57 2012 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 11:02:57 +0200 Subject: HELP! NFS Kubuntu 11.10 In-Reply-To: <201205081054.41765.info@alvin.be> References: <201205081054.41765.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Alvin wrote: > On Tuesday 08 May 2012 10:39:00 Knapp wrote: >> Anyone have any ideas about how to solve this? I am a NFS newbie but >> good with Linux otherwise. >> >> I am having a hell of a time getting NFS to work. I think the problem >> is that portmap was removed but I am not to sure. > > It was. You need to install the /nfs-kernel-server/ package on the server and > /nfs-common/ on the client for this basic functionality. > >> So I am starting with the basic question of how to you set up NFS on >> Kubuntu 11.10 >> I am quite at home with command line and vim btw. >> >> etc/exports >> # setting up the server 192.168.2.11 and the client is 192.168.2.45 >> >> /home/douglas/KidMovies 192.168.2.45(rw,insecure,async,no_subtree_check) >> /home/douglas/Pictures  192.168.2.45(rw,insecure,async,no_subtree_check) > > That looks fine (for NFSv3). > >> /etc/hosts.allow >> [..] > > The usage of TCP wrappers is optional > > Also check the official documentation here: > https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-file-system.html Thanks for helping! But it will not export. I cant' see it at all on the other computer. I have it working the other way just fine but can't get this computer to work as you can see but the showmount errors. -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From richard at internode.on.net Tue May 8 11:52:11 2012 From: richard at internode.on.net (Richard Terry) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 21:52:11 +1000 Subject: Importiing Kmail to thunderbird ?possible Message-ID: <4FA908EB.50507@internode.on.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Tue May 8 12:50:22 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - message in English) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 14:50:22 +0200 Subject: What can I do to get this Virtuoso backend project started again - with a view to structurally resolve the worst KMAIL problems? In-Reply-To: <5813105.PxHaM09gKp@t520> References: <1924625.UBt9gGsh2U@viaconsensus-travel> <5813105.PxHaM09gKp@t520> Message-ID: <3154285.sYjC1WAEqI@viaconsensus-travel> Hello Steve and Everybody > It is unfortunate that Akonadi and Nepomuk require what amounts to two > full-on databases to function: MySQL for Akonadi and Virtuoso for Nepomuk. > At one time, there was effort to create a Virtuoso backend for Akonadi, so > that we could do everything with a single database. That work has, alas, > stalled. Pls. explain briefly what I (and perhaps some others) can do to get this Virtuoso backend project started again - something like this could structurally resolve problems with KMail and Kontact. Do I need to learn code writing for -amongst others - Unix via Kate or KDevelop? Can you recommend me one or few tutorials relevant in this context? Respectfully yours, BAS. Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands E. BasRoufs at gmail.com Mob. +31 6 446 835 10 Tel. +31 30 785 40 Skype, Google Talk: basroufs Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu Viaconsensus.nl RainbowGathering.eu Open source OS: Linux Kubuntu 12.04. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rtgkid at gmail.com Tue May 8 13:03:47 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 08:03:47 -0500 Subject: Importiing Kmail to thunderbird ?possible In-Reply-To: <4FA908EB.50507@internode.on.net> References: <4FA908EB.50507@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Do you mean import all of your emails, or your contacts? If you are wanting to import your emails, you don't need to. Thunderbird will automatically fetch emails for most email providers (like GMail, Hotmail/Windows Live Mail, etc). The only email provider I can think of that does not work with Thunderbird is Comcast (@comcast.net). There may very well be other emails that don't work with Thunderbird though. Hope this helps! Thanks! In Christ, Ryan On May 8, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Richard Terry wrote: > After many years I've relectantly decided to give up my kmail and switch to thunderbird, and I wondered if anyone had successfullyl imported the kmail folders/messages, or if it was possible > > Regards > > richard > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From mmtsales at gmail.com Tue May 8 13:08:21 2012 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 10:08:21 -0300 Subject: Importiing Kmail to thunderbird ?possible In-Reply-To: <4FA908EB.50507@internode.on.net> References: <4FA908EB.50507@internode.on.net> Message-ID: 2012/5/8 Richard Terry : > After many years I've relectantly decided to give up my kmail  and switch to > thunderbird, and I wondered if anyone had successfullyl imported the kmail > folders/messages, or if it was possible > > Regards > > richard As much as I can tell, there's no direct way to import your Kmail's maildir into Thunderbird's mbox store. However, you can do this indirectly using an IMAP server. You can install your own IMAP server, connect Kmail to it and move all your mail folders to the server. Then connect to this server using Thunderbird and move back your folders. Probably you can do this using gmail's IMAP to intermediate the transfer, which would make unecessary to setup a local IMAP server. However, depending on your needs, maybe Thunderbird is not the ideal mail client because of its mbox local store. Thunderbird works well and I like its interface but, although there are many features I use in Kmail that do not exist in Thunderbird and that I would sure miss, the main problem that really prevents me from switching to it is the mbox format for storing e-mail. mbox is very prone to corruption if you have a LOT of e-mail stored or if you receive and delete too many e-mails daily, and I do both. I could use IMAP to avoid these problems, but I prefer to have my e-mail archive stored locally rather than trusting it to some cloud provider far away. For now, I'm stuck with Kmail with all its problems and bugs. []'s Marcelo From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Tue May 8 13:16:09 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 23:16:09 +1000 Subject: What can I do to get this Virtuoso backend project started again - with a view to structurally resolve the worst KMAIL problems? In-Reply-To: <3154285.sYjC1WAEqI@viaconsensus-travel> References: <1924625.UBt9gGsh2U@viaconsensus-travel> <5813105.PxHaM09gKp@t520> <3154285.sYjC1WAEqI@viaconsensus-travel> Message-ID: <3556850.k5AejxT0ee@lindsay-kubuntu-12> On Tue, 8 May 2012 02:50:22 PM Bas Roufs - message in English wrote: > Pls. explain briefly what I (and perhaps some others) can do to get this > Virtuoso backend project started again - something like this could > structurally resolve problems with KMail and Kontact. Not necessarily. I don't think the choice of DB back-end has much to do with kmail problems. I'm not even sure if they would be a good match -virtuoso is a RDF db, mysql is a relational db, they are fundamentally different. POOMA U here: The main problems with Kmail appear to be: - virtuoso. The search backend for akonadi. Can be a resource hog and has bugs. When it fails it make akonadi look bad. - akonadi resource. These do the actual pull/push of data - the imap resource etc. When the fail they make akonadi look bad. - akonadi. Its the data backend and has its share of problems. When it fails it makes kmail look bad. - Kmail. Getting pretty good now I think. (Real kdepim devs feel free to correct me with a sledgehammer if necessary) Part of the problem I think is the long chain of dependant components, any one of which can bring it all crashing down. For a long while I think there was poor documentation, constantly evolving apis and poor logging which led to a lot of issues. But that really seems to be working out now - kdepim is achieving some maturity. The kontact suite is way more capable and stable than it was a year ago. IMAP is pretty solid, Calendar and Contact sync with ical, kolab and google is working well know - google imap/contacts/calendar is a sweet combination for me, well synced between desktop, web and android phone. Still lots of issues to be worked on - client side imap filters seem somewhat buggy. Search still very erratic. Address completion ... But they are actively be worked on. Major plumbing and infrastructure is looking good. Finally seeing some of that akonadi/nepomuk promise. I like seeing my calendar events automatically show in plasma date widgets. Dolphin nepomuk searchs are showing my emails - if only they could display them :) Its getting there. -- Lindsay -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Tue May 8 13:45:32 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 23:45:32 +1000 Subject: Importiing Kmail to thunderbird ?possible In-Reply-To: <4FA908EB.50507@internode.on.net> References: <4FA908EB.50507@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4FA9237C.3030006@iinet.net.au> On 08/05/12 21:52, Richard Terry wrote: > After many years I've relectantly decided to give up my kmail and > switch to thunderbird, and I wondered if anyone had successfullyl > imported the kmail folders/messages, or if it was possible > > Regards > > richard Anything in here which would help?- http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_and_exporting_your_mail BC From girardhenri at free.fr Tue May 8 13:59:42 2012 From: girardhenri at free.fr (gh) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 15:59:42 +0200 Subject: No video on Skype In-Reply-To: <53470765.QxCVOFsgkl@gkourtev-laptop> References: <53470765.QxCVOFsgkl@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <4FA926CE.6080308@free.fr> Le 08/05/2012 10:37, Georgi Kourtev a écrit : > Fresh install of Kubuntu 12.04, 64 bit, KDE 4.8.3 > Laptop DELL Inspiron 1525 with built-in camera > Skype (beta) 2.2.0.35 > > In Skype the video is not working. When I go on Skype's video device setting > the drop down menu says 'no device found'. Googled a bit but couldn't find > anything meaningful. > > Any shared knowledge is appreciated. > gk > > > yes : it's the v4l lib write in your icon : bash -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype' and it should work... by the way if you have problem with sound look if it's behind or in frond for the micro regards Henri From gkourtev at gmail.com Tue May 8 18:12:49 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 21:12:49 +0300 Subject: No video on Skype In-Reply-To: <4FA926CE.6080308@free.fr> References: <53470765.QxCVOFsgkl@gkourtev-laptop> <4FA926CE.6080308@free.fr> Message-ID: It might sound stupid, but what does it mean 'write it into your icon'? And how should I do it? Thanks for the help. Gk На 08.05.2012 16:59 "gh" написа: > Le 08/05/2012 10:37, Georgi Kourtev a écrit : > >> Fresh install of Kubuntu 12.04, 64 bit, KDE 4.8.3 >> Laptop DELL Inspiron 1525 with built-in camera >> Skype (beta) 2.2.0.35 >> >> In Skype the video is not working. When I go on Skype's video device >> setting >> the drop down menu says 'no device found'. Googled a bit but couldn't find >> anything meaningful. >> >> Any shared knowledge is appreciated. >> gk >> >> >> >> yes : it's the v4l lib > write in your icon : > bash -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-**linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype' > and it should work... > by the way if you have problem with sound look if it's behind or in frond > for the micro > regards > Henri > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From girardhenri at free.fr Tue May 8 18:33:15 2012 From: girardhenri at free.fr (gh) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 20:33:15 +0200 Subject: No video on Skype In-Reply-To: References: <53470765.QxCVOFsgkl@gkourtev-laptop> <4FA926CE.6080308@free.fr> Message-ID: <4FA966EB.5050405@free.fr> Yes sorry... English is not my language. I send you the link to do it it's better explained. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973096 But reading your question I am wondering if it is the true problem ? It looks like if it didn't find your driver ? Try with cheese application if it works then it might be skype problem. But in any case your question might not sound stupid :) We are all the same : If we know we can solve the problem, but if we don't know ... problem ! good luck Henri Le 08/05/2012 20:12, Georgi Kourtev a écrit : > > It might sound stupid, but what does it mean 'write it into your > icon'? And how should I do it? Thanks for the help. > Gk > > На 08.05.2012 16:59 "gh" > написа: > > Le 08/05/2012 10:37, Georgi Kourtev a écrit : > > Fresh install of Kubuntu 12.04, 64 bit, KDE 4.8.3 > Laptop DELL Inspiron 1525 with built-in camera > Skype (beta) 2.2.0.35 > > In Skype the video is not working. When I go on Skype's video > device setting > the drop down menu says 'no device found'. Googled a bit but > couldn't find > anything meaningful. > > Any shared knowledge is appreciated. > gk > > > > yes : it's the v4l lib > write in your icon : > bash -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386- linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so > skype' > and it should work... > by the way if you have problem with sound look if it's behind or > in frond for the micro > regards > Henri > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lahc2007 at gmail.com Tue May 8 18:37:53 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 14:37:53 -0400 Subject: No video on Skype In-Reply-To: References: <53470765.QxCVOFsgkl@gkourtev-laptop> <4FA926CE.6080308@free.fr> Message-ID: I think it means right click on the icon and add that bit into the command line that starts Skype. On 8 May 2012 14:14, "Georgi Kourtev" wrote: > It might sound stupid, but what does it mean 'write it into your icon'? > And how should I do it? Thanks for the help. > Gk > На 08.05.2012 16:59 "gh" написа: > >> Le 08/05/2012 10:37, Georgi Kourtev a écrit : >> >>> Fresh install of Kubuntu 12.04, 64 bit, KDE 4.8.3 >>> Laptop DELL Inspiron 1525 with built-in camera >>> Skype (beta) 2.2.0.35 >>> >>> In Skype the video is not working. When I go on Skype's video device >>> setting >>> the drop down menu says 'no device found'. Googled a bit but couldn't >>> find >>> anything meaningful. >>> >>> Any shared knowledge is appreciated. >>> gk >>> >>> >>> >>> yes : it's the v4l lib >> write in your icon : >> bash -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-**linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype' >> and it should work... >> by the way if you have problem with sound look if it's behind or in frond >> for the micro >> regards >> Henri >> >> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From antonxx at gmx.de Tue May 8 20:52:45 2012 From: antonxx at gmx.de (Anton) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 22:52:45 +0200 Subject: Importiing Kmail to thunderbird ?possible References: <4FA908EB.50507@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > As much as I can tell, there's no direct way to import your Kmail's > maildir into Thunderbird's mbox store. However, you can do this > indirectly using an IMAP server. You can install your own IMAP server, > connect Kmail to it and move all your mail folders to the server. Then > connect to this server using Thunderbird and move back your folders. > Probably you can do this using gmail's IMAP to intermediate the I did a test in the past: I tried to copy my mail structure from KMAil into a dovecot local imap server... it didn't work well as I remember Anton From moptop99 at gmail.com Wed May 9 14:48:50 2012 From: moptop99 at gmail.com (Matt Price) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:48:50 -0400 Subject: Fwd: kwin" enabling tiling gives tiny windows? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Matt Price wrote: Hi, I'm trying to enable tiling in kwin as an experiment, but the behaviour isn't quite what I'd expect. 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URL: From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Fri May 11 07:05:07 2012 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 08:05:07 +0100 Subject: Partitioning with KDE Partition Manager Message-ID: <1364155.8dUdftPtTy@rachael> I'm trying to repartition an SD card I've written an image to for use on a Raspberry Pi, but every time I try to do it the card gets messed up do to auto mount trying to mount the partitions even though I've told it not to. Any ideas on how to do it? -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri May 11 08:01:38 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:01:38 +1000 Subject: Partitioning with KDE Partition Manager In-Reply-To: <1364155.8dUdftPtTy@rachael> References: <1364155.8dUdftPtTy@rachael> Message-ID: <4FACC762.1080003@iinet.net.au> On 11/05/12 17:05, Mark Fraser wrote: > I'm trying to repartition an SD card I've written an image to for use on a > Raspberry Pi, but every time I try to do it the card gets messed up do to auto > mount trying to mount the partitions even though I've told it not to. Any > ideas on how to do it? Would like to rewrite your post so that it is understandable as to what you trying to say? Thanks. BC From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Fri May 11 09:01:58 2012 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:01:58 +0300 Subject: Partitioning with KDE Partition Manager In-Reply-To: <4FACC762.1080003@iinet.net.au> References: <1364155.8dUdftPtTy@rachael> <4FACC762.1080003@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FACD586.8060700@whamra.com> On 05/11/2012 11:01 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 11/05/12 17:05, Mark Fraser wrote: >> I'm trying to repartition an SD card I've written an image to for use >> on a >> Raspberry Pi, but every time I try to do it the card gets messed up do >> to auto >> mount trying to mount the partitions even though I've told it not to. Any >> ideas on how to do it? > > Would like to rewrite your post so that it is understandable as to what > you trying to say? > > Thanks. he's trying to repartition an SD card, for use with the raspberry pi (lucky him :P), but somehow, it gets messed up by auto mount. i don't know what he means by this, why would mounting it mess it up? -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri May 11 09:10:24 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 19:10:24 +1000 Subject: Partitioning with KDE Partition Manager In-Reply-To: <4FACD586.8060700@whamra.com> References: <1364155.8dUdftPtTy@rachael> <4FACC762.1080003@iinet.net.au> <4FACD586.8060700@whamra.com> Message-ID: <4FACD780.3030709@iinet.net.au> On 11/05/12 19:01, Waleed Hamra wrote: > On 05/11/2012 11:01 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 11/05/12 17:05, Mark Fraser wrote: >>> I'm trying to repartition an SD card I've written an image to for use >>> on a >>> Raspberry Pi, but every time I try to do it the card gets messed up do >>> to auto >>> mount trying to mount the partitions even though I've told it not to. Any >>> ideas on how to do it? >> Would like to rewrite your post so that it is understandable as to what >> you trying to say? >> >> Thanks. > he's trying to repartition an SD card, for use with the raspberry pi > (lucky him :P), but somehow, it gets messed up by auto mount. i don't > know what he means by this, why would mounting it mess it up? "Exactamondo". BC From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Fri May 11 09:28:21 2012 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:28:21 +0100 Subject: Partitioning with KDE Partition Manager In-Reply-To: <4FACD586.8060700@whamra.com> References: <1364155.8dUdftPtTy@rachael> <4FACC762.1080003@iinet.net.au> <4FACD586.8060700@whamra.com> Message-ID: <5351232.V5KJaGpoRV@rachael> On Friday 11 May 2012 12:01:58 Waleed Hamra wrote: > On 05/11/2012 11:01 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > > On 11/05/12 17:05, Mark Fraser wrote: > >> I'm trying to repartition an SD card I've written an image to for use > >> on a > >> Raspberry Pi, but every time I try to do it the card gets messed up do > >> to auto > >> mount trying to mount the partitions even though I've told it not to. Any > >> ideas on how to do it? > > > > Would like to rewrite your post so that it is understandable as to what > > you trying to say? > > > > Thanks. > > he's trying to repartition an SD card, for use with the raspberry pi > (lucky him :P), but somehow, it gets messed up by auto mount. i don't > know what he means by this, why would mounting it mess it up? The Debian image is 2GB and comprises of /boot, / and swap partitions. I want to repartition it to use the whole of a 16GB card by moving swap to the end and enlarging the / partition. When I try to do this swap gets moved OK, but when it enlarges the / partition, it seems like something tries to auto mount the partition after which the card doesn't have a usable partition table. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Fri May 11 13:36:13 2012 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (anj.tuesday at gmx.net) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 15:36:13 +0200 Subject: Accidentally set a root passwd Message-ID: <1336743373.2328.4.camel@earthworm> I mis-used the passwd command and I think I ended up setting a root password that I now can't seem to remember. At least entering recovery mode prompts for a root password now, and none will do. Sudo works fine, so is there a way to disable the root password from there? Thanks in advance, Anja From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri May 11 13:50:32 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 23:50:32 +1000 Subject: Accidentally set a root passwd In-Reply-To: <1336743373.2328.4.camel@earthworm> References: <1336743373.2328.4.camel@earthworm> Message-ID: <4FAD1928.8080308@iinet.net.au> On 11/05/12 23:36, anj.tuesday at gmx.net wrote: > I mis-used the passwd command and I think I ended up setting a root > password that I now can't seem to remember. At least entering > recovery mode prompts for a root password now, and none will do. > Sudo works fine, so is there a way to disable the root password from > there? > > Thanks in advance, > Anja Yes, but go and do a search on your problem and you will find a "ton" of answers on how to do it :-) . And doing some research for yourself will teach you not to forget passwords that you set :-) . BC From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Fri May 11 13:50:48 2012 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 20:50:48 +0700 Subject: Accidentally set a root passwd In-Reply-To: <1336743373.2328.4.camel@earthworm> References: <1336743373.2328.4.camel@earthworm> Message-ID: On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:36 PM, anj.tuesday at gmx.net wrote: > Sudo works fine, so is there a way to disable the root password from > there? sudo passwd -l root DK From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Fri May 11 14:00:58 2012 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (anj.tuesday at gmx.net) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:00:58 +0200 Subject: Accidentally set a root passwd In-Reply-To: <4FAD1928.8080308@iinet.net.au> References: <1336743373.2328.4.camel@earthworm> <4FAD1928.8080308@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1336744858.2328.5.camel@earthworm> Am Freitag, den 11.05.2012, 23:50 +1000 schrieb Basil Chupin: > On 11/05/12 23:36, anj.tuesday at gmx.net wrote: > > I mis-used the passwd command and I think I ended up setting a root > > password that I now can't seem to remember. At least entering > > recovery mode prompts for a root password now, and none will do. > > Sudo works fine, so is there a way to disable the root password from > > there? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Anja > > Yes, but go and do a search on your problem and you will find a "ton" of > answers on how to do it :-) . > > And doing some research for yourself will teach you not to forget > passwords that you set :-) . > > BC > > But I so prefer doing blindly what I'm told and hosing my system even more! From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Fri May 11 14:08:04 2012 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (anj.tuesday at gmx.net) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:08:04 +0200 Subject: Accidentally set a root passwd In-Reply-To: References: <1336743373.2328.4.camel@earthworm> Message-ID: <1336745284.2328.6.camel@earthworm> Am Freitag, den 11.05.2012, 20:50 +0700 schrieb David Kuntadi: > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:36 PM, anj.tuesday at gmx.net > wrote: > > Sudo works fine, so is there a way to disable the root password from > > there? > > sudo passwd -l root > > DK > Thanks! From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri May 11 14:19:54 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 00:19:54 +1000 Subject: Accidentally set a root passwd In-Reply-To: <1336744858.2328.5.camel@earthworm> References: <1336743373.2328.4.camel@earthworm> <4FAD1928.8080308@iinet.net.au> <1336744858.2328.5.camel@earthworm> Message-ID: <4FAD200A.6090807@iinet.net.au> On 12/05/12 00:00, anj.tuesday at gmx.net wrote: > Am Freitag, den 11.05.2012, 23:50 +1000 schrieb Basil Chupin: >> On 11/05/12 23:36, anj.tuesday at gmx.net wrote: >>> I mis-used the passwd command and I think I ended up setting a root >>> password that I now can't seem to remember. At least entering >>> recovery mode prompts for a root password now, and none will do. >>> Sudo works fine, so is there a way to disable the root password from >>> there? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Anja >> Yes, but go and do a search on your problem and you will find a "ton" of >> answers on how to do it :-) . >> >> And doing some research for yourself will teach you not to forget >> passwords that you set :-) . >> >> BC >> >> > But I so prefer doing blindly what I'm told and hosing my system > even more! That's the spirit! :-) . But seriously, look at it from this angle: I don't know where you are but where I am right now it is just past midnight and it is 0008 hours on Saturday 12 May but in Los Angeles it is 0800 hours on Friday and 1008 hours in New York. Now, you were fortunate to find that someone was awake and available to give you the answer otherwise you may have had to wait for hours and hours before someone who knew the answer would even read your post. So, the first thing to do is to use the web and search for the answer. But you also some most excellent sources of information in the K/Ubuntu Documentation - https://help.ubuntu.com/community - but (possibly even better) also Launchpad - https://launchpad.net/ . I must admit that when searching the net for an answer not only will you get some gems but you will also get some furphies which will turn your system into mush if you follow what they say. So, the best places to go first are the 2 I just mentioned - Documentation and Launchpad. Cannot find the answer there - then ask in this mail list or the Ubuntu mail list. BC From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Fri May 11 16:09:14 2012 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (anj.tuesday at gmx.net) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:09:14 +0200 Subject: Accidentally set a root passwd In-Reply-To: <4FAD200A.6090807@iinet.net.au> References: <1336743373.2328.4.camel@earthworm> <4FAD1928.8080308@iinet.net.au> <1336744858.2328.5.camel@earthworm> <4FAD200A.6090807@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1336752554.2328.9.camel@earthworm> Am Samstag, den 12.05.2012, 00:19 +1000 schrieb Basil Chupin: > On 12/05/12 00:00, anj.tuesday at gmx.net wrote: > > Am Freitag, den 11.05.2012, 23:50 +1000 schrieb Basil Chupin: > >> On 11/05/12 23:36, anj.tuesday at gmx.net wrote: > >>> I mis-used the passwd command and I think I ended up setting a root > >>> password that I now can't seem to remember. At least entering > >>> recovery mode prompts for a root password now, and none will do. > >>> Sudo works fine, so is there a way to disable the root password from > >>> there? > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance, > >>> Anja > >> Yes, but go and do a search on your problem and you will find a "ton" of > >> answers on how to do it :-) . > >> > >> And doing some research for yourself will teach you not to forget > >> passwords that you set :-) . > >> > >> BC > >> > >> > > But I so prefer doing blindly what I'm told and hosing my system > > even more! > > That's the spirit! :-) . > > But seriously, look at it from this angle: I don't know where you are > but where I am right now it is just past midnight and it is 0008 hours > on Saturday 12 May but in Los Angeles it is 0800 hours on Friday and > 1008 hours in New York. > > Now, you were fortunate to find that someone was awake and available to > give you the answer otherwise you may have had to wait for hours and > hours before someone who knew the answer would even read your post. So, > the first thing to do is to use the web and search for the answer. But > you also some most excellent sources of information in the K/Ubuntu > Documentation - https://help.ubuntu.com/community - but (possibly even > better) also Launchpad - https://launchpad.net/ . > > I must admit that when searching the net for an answer not only will you > get some gems but you will also get some furphies which will turn your > system into mush if you follow what they say. So, the best places to go > first are the 2 I just mentioned - Documentation and Launchpad. Cannot > find the answer there - then ask in this mail list or the Ubuntu mail list. > > BC man passwd and man usermod would've done the trick, I know. Sometimes I just want to talk to someone and get a response that I can be relatively sure is in fact about my problem. But you're right, too. From girardhenri at free.fr Fri May 11 16:37:40 2012 From: girardhenri at free.fr (gh) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:37:40 +0200 Subject: Accidentally set a root passwd In-Reply-To: <4FAD200A.6090807@iinet.net.au> References: <1336743373.2328.4.camel@earthworm> <4FAD1928.8080308@iinet.net.au> <1336744858.2328.5.camel@earthworm> <4FAD200A.6090807@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FAD4054.6090508@free.fr> internet becomes craps everyday more :) like politics Le 11/05/2012 16:19, Basil Chupin a écrit : > On 12/05/12 00:00, anj.tuesday at gmx.net wrote: >> Am Freitag, den 11.05.2012, 23:50 +1000 schrieb Basil Chupin: >>> On 11/05/12 23:36, anj.tuesday at gmx.net wrote: >>>> I mis-used the passwd command and I think I ended up setting a root >>>> password that I now can't seem to remember. At least entering >>>> recovery mode prompts for a root password now, and none will do. >>>> Sudo works fine, so is there a way to disable the root password from >>>> there? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance, >>>> Anja >>> Yes, but go and do a search on your problem and you will find a >>> "ton" of >>> answers on how to do it :-) . >>> >>> And doing some research for yourself will teach you not to forget >>> passwords that you set :-) . >>> >>> BC >>> >>> >> But I so prefer doing blindly what I'm told and hosing my system >> even more! > > That's the spirit! :-) . > > But seriously, look at it from this angle: I don't know where you are > but where I am right now it is just past midnight and it is 0008 hours > on Saturday 12 May but in Los Angeles it is 0800 hours on Friday and > 1008 hours in New York. > > Now, you were fortunate to find that someone was awake and available > to give you the answer otherwise you may have had to wait for hours > and hours before someone who knew the answer would even read your > post. So, the first thing to do is to use the web and search for the > answer. But you also some most excellent sources of information in the > K/Ubuntu Documentation - https://help.ubuntu.com/community - but > (possibly even better) also Launchpad - https://launchpad.net/ . > > I must admit that when searching the net for an answer not only will > you get some gems but you will also get some furphies which will turn > your system into mush if you follow what they say. So, the best places > to go first are the 2 I just mentioned - Documentation and Launchpad. > Cannot find the answer there - then ask in this mail list or the > Ubuntu mail list. > > BC > > From rayburke30 at gmail.com Fri May 11 21:43:34 2012 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 07:43:34 +1000 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ray burke Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000 Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Can anyone help please- I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but after i rebooted and started ff11 when i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so how do I stop it updating to ff11, showing within my kpakagekit? see attached ray From zekkerj at gmail.com Fri May 11 22:27:05 2012 From: zekkerj at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Queiroz?=) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 19:27:05 -0300 Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Instead avoiding update, try to disable your extensions/addons, or even creating a new profile for you. start firefox w/ disabled addons: killall -TERM firefox firefox -SecureMode start firefox in Profile Manager, to create a new profile: killall -TERM firefox firefox -ProfileManager 2012/5/11 ray burke > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: ray burke > Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000 > Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Can anyone help please- > > I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but > after i rebooted and started ff11 when > i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 > attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my > k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so > how do I stop it updating to ff11, > showing within my kpakagekit? see attached > > ray > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rayburke30 at gmail.com Fri May 11 22:53:13 2012 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 08:53:13 +1000 Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jos'e, what you mean 'start firefox in Profile Manager, to create a new profile:' and by doing what you say it should disappear from my kpackagelist? ray On 5/12/12, José Queiroz wrote: > Instead avoiding update, try to disable your extensions/addons, or even > creating a new profile for you. > > start firefox w/ disabled addons: > > killall -TERM firefox > firefox -SecureMode > > start firefox in Profile Manager, to create a new profile: > > killall -TERM firefox > firefox -ProfileManager > > 2012/5/11 ray burke > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: ray burke >> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000 >> Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 >> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> Can anyone help please- >> >> I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but >> after i rebooted and started ff11 when >> i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 >> attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my >> k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so >> how do I stop it updating to ff11, >> showing within my kpakagekit? see attached >> >> ray >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > From zekkerj at gmail.com Fri May 11 23:34:59 2012 From: zekkerj at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Queiroz?=) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 20:34:59 -0300 Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2012/5/11 ray burke > Jos'e, > > what you mean 'start firefox in Profile Manager, to create a new > profile:' and by doing what > you say it should disappear from my kpackagelist? > > I mean *exactly* what I said: start firefox in Profile Manager, to create a new profile. Maybe you should read about FF profiles? http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Profiles No, by doing what I said, you'll not go back to FF9 [This is not a good idea] neither avoid your system to update FF to FF12. Doing what I said you'll just probably find *why* FF12 won't worked for you. ray > > > On 5/12/12, José Queiroz wrote: > > Instead avoiding update, try to disable your extensions/addons, or even > > creating a new profile for you. > > > > start firefox w/ disabled addons: > > > > killall -TERM firefox > > firefox -SecureMode > > > > start firefox in Profile Manager, to create a new profile: > > > > killall -TERM firefox > > firefox -ProfileManager > > > > 2012/5/11 ray burke > > > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: ray burke > >> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000 > >> Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 > >> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> > >> Can anyone help please- > >> > >> I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but > >> after i rebooted and started ff11 when > >> i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 > >> attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my > >> k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so > >> how do I stop it updating to ff11, > >> showing within my kpakagekit? see attached > >> > >> ray > >> > >> -- > >> kubuntu-users mailing list > >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat May 12 02:46:03 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 12:46:03 +1000 Subject: Detecting malicious websites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FADCEEB.4020101@iinet.net.au> On 12/05/12 11:30, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > This morning one of my personal sites was hacked and malicious code > inserted into the index file. I only found out because my mother went > to the site and her computer was compromised. I did not discover this > myself because I obviously don't run any anti-malware software on my > computer. > > Is there a way to detect malicious websites while running Kubuntu? My > browser of choice, if it matters, is Chrome. Your post is sending mixed messages about the situation. It seems that you are using Kubuntu and Chrome but you say nothing about what your mother is running and in what way was she "compromised". Overall, are you asking about how to detect malicious sites on YOUR Kubuntu/Chrome or asking how your "personal sites" (and what do you really mean by this? sites which you have setup or simply those which you personally use?). While I cannot say what is available to detect malicious sites using Chrome but if you were using Firefox then you would find Add-ons (Extensions) which do give you protection against malicious sites and this besides the setting in FF Preferences, in the Security part, which will advise you when you hit a malicious site. BC From richard at underpope.com Sat May 12 02:53:25 2012 From: richard at underpope.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 19:53:25 -0700 Subject: Detecting malicious websites In-Reply-To: <4FADCEEB.4020101@iinet.net.au> References: <4FADCEEB.4020101@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 12/05/12 11:30, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > >> This morning one of my personal sites was hacked and malicious code >> inserted into the index file. I only found out because my mother went to >> the site and her computer was compromised. I did not discover this myself >> because I obviously don't run any anti-malware software on my computer. >> >> Is there a way to detect malicious websites while running Kubuntu? My >> browser of choice, if it matters, is Chrome. >> > > Your post is sending mixed messages about the situation. It seems that you > are using Kubuntu and Chrome but you say nothing about what your mother is > running and in what way was she "compromised". Overall, are you asking > about how to detect malicious sites on YOUR Kubuntu/Chrome or asking how > your "personal sites" (and what do you really mean by this? sites which you > have setup or simply those which you personally use?). > Sorry, I should have been more clear. My mother reported the infected site to me this morning. She was at work, where she runs IE on XP (no choice there). She browsed to my site, and Norton popped up a warning about three separate trojans. Apparently, in spite of Norton, her computer was compromised -- infected with malware -- anyway. When I browsed to my site to investigate nothing popped up -- because, of course, I am not running Norton. > > While I cannot say what is available to detect malicious sites using > Chrome but if you were using Firefox then you would find Add-ons > (Extensions) which do give you protection against malicious sites and this > besides the setting in FF Preferences, in the Security part, which will > advise you when you hit a malicious site. > > BC > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Sláinte, Richard S. Crawford (richard at underpope.com) http://www.underpope.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/underpope Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/underpope Google+: http://gplus.to/underpope -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rtgkid at gmail.com Sat May 12 03:24:00 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 22:24:00 -0500 Subject: Detecting malicious websites In-Reply-To: References: <4FADCEEB.4020101@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Sorry for being a little off-topic, but I think you gave just about enough information. It is very difficult to detect these malicious websites without an anti-malware app, and it is advertised for Linux that there is no need for this type of software, because Linux/Kubuntu doesn't get viruses. I have accidentally visited several malicious websites on Windows 7, so that is the main reason I decided to stick with Ubuntu. Thanks! On May 11, 2012, at 9:53 PM, "Richard S. Crawford" wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 12/05/12 11:30, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > This morning one of my personal sites was hacked and malicious code inserted into the index file. I only found out because my mother went to the site and her computer was compromised. I did not discover this myself because I obviously don't run any anti-malware software on my computer. > > Is there a way to detect malicious websites while running Kubuntu? My browser of choice, if it matters, is Chrome. > > Your post is sending mixed messages about the situation. It seems that you are using Kubuntu and Chrome but you say nothing about what your mother is running and in what way was she "compromised". Overall, are you asking about how to detect malicious sites on YOUR Kubuntu/Chrome or asking how your "personal sites" (and what do you really mean by this? sites which you have setup or simply those which you personally use?). > > Sorry, I should have been more clear. > > My mother reported the infected site to me this morning. She was at work, where she runs IE on XP (no choice there). She browsed to my site, and Norton popped up a warning about three separate trojans. Apparently, in spite of Norton, her computer was compromised -- infected with malware -- anyway. > > When I browsed to my site to investigate nothing popped up -- because, of course, I am not running Norton. > > > > While I cannot say what is available to detect malicious sites using Chrome but if you were using Firefox then you would find Add-ons (Extensions) which do give you protection against malicious sites and this besides the setting in FF Preferences, in the Security part, which will advise you when you hit a malicious site. > > BC > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > Sláinte, > Richard S. Crawford (richard at underpope.com) http://www.underpope.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/underpope > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/underpope > Google+: http://gplus.to/underpope > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat May 12 05:13:56 2012 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 07:13:56 +0200 Subject: Detecting malicious websites In-Reply-To: References: <4FADCEEB.4020101@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: You said it was your site but your machine was not infected? How did you get hacked? Was this your local machine or do you use a host? How where they hacked and what are you going to do about that!! On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Ryan Gauger wrote: > Sorry for being a little off-topic, but I think you gave just about enough > information. It is very difficult to detect these malicious websites without > an anti-malware app, and it is advertised for Linux that there is no need > for this type of software, because Linux/Kubuntu doesn't get viruses. I have > accidentally visited several malicious websites on Windows 7, so that is the > main reason I decided to stick with Ubuntu. Thanks! > > > On May 11, 2012, at 9:53 PM, "Richard S. Crawford" > wrote: > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: >> >> On 12/05/12 11:30, Richard S. Crawford wrote: >>> >>> This morning one of my personal sites was hacked and malicious code >>> inserted into the index file. I only found out because my mother went to the >>> site and her computer was compromised. I did not discover this myself >>> because I obviously don't run any anti-malware software on my computer. >>> >>> Is there a way to detect malicious websites while running Kubuntu? My >>> browser of choice, if it matters, is Chrome. >> >> >> Your post is sending mixed messages about the situation. It seems that you >> are using Kubuntu and Chrome but you say nothing about what your mother is >> running and in what way was she "compromised". Overall, are you asking about >> how to detect malicious sites on YOUR Kubuntu/Chrome or asking how your >> "personal sites" (and what do you really mean by this? sites which you have >> setup or simply those which you personally use?). > > > Sorry, I should have been more clear. > > My mother reported the infected site to me this morning. She was at work, > where she runs IE on XP (no choice there). She browsed to my site, and > Norton popped up a warning about three separate trojans. Apparently, in > spite of Norton, her computer was compromised -- infected with malware -- > anyway. > > When I browsed to my site to investigate nothing popped up -- because, of > course, I am not running Norton. > > >> >> >> While I cannot say what is available to detect malicious sites using >> Chrome but if you were using Firefox then you would find Add-ons >> (Extensions) which do give you protection against malicious sites and this >> besides the setting in FF Preferences, in the Security part, which will >> advise you when you hit a malicious site. >> >> BC >> >> >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > -- > Sláinte, > Richard S. Crawford (richard at underpope.com) http://www.underpope.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/underpope > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/underpope > Google+: http://gplus.to/underpope > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat May 12 05:25:40 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 15:25:40 +1000 Subject: Detecting malicious websites In-Reply-To: References: <4FADCEEB.4020101@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FADF454.5080606@iinet.net.au> On 12/05/12 12:53, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Basil Chupin > wrote: > > On 12/05/12 11:30, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > > This morning one of my personal sites was hacked and malicious > code inserted into the index file. I only found out because my > mother went to the site and her computer was compromised. I > did not discover this myself because I obviously don't run any > anti-malware software on my computer. > > Is there a way to detect malicious websites while running > Kubuntu? My browser of choice, if it matters, is Chrome. > > > Your post is sending mixed messages about the situation. It seems > that you are using Kubuntu and Chrome but you say nothing about > what your mother is running and in what way was she "compromised". > Overall, are you asking about how to detect malicious sites on > YOUR Kubuntu/Chrome or asking how your "personal sites" (and what > do you really mean by this? sites which you have setup or simply > those which you personally use?). > > > Sorry, I should have been more clear. > > My mother reported the infected site to me this morning. She was at > work, where she runs IE on XP (no choice there). She browsed to my > site, and Norton popped up a warning about three separate trojans. > Apparently, in spite of Norton, her computer was compromised -- > infected with malware -- anyway. > > When I browsed to my site to investigate nothing popped up -- because, > of course, I am not running Norton. > > � > > > While I cannot say what is available to detect malicious sites > using Chrome but if you were using Firefox then you would find > Add-ons (Extensions) which do give you protection against > malicious sites and this besides the setting in FF Preferences, in > the Security part, which will advise you when you hit a malicious > site. > > BC > Well, your mother's work place got what it deserved and deserves. But you haven't fully answered my questions: is this site(s) YOUR sites - ie you actually created them? And if it/they is/are yours then what are doing about protecting it/them and getting rid of the malware on it/them? BTW, you do know about this site: http://validator.w3.org/ where you type in the URL of any site and validator shows you all the errors and where they are in the code used by the site? BC From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat May 12 05:28:43 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 15:28:43 +1000 Subject: Detecting malicious websites In-Reply-To: References: <4FADCEEB.4020101@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FADF50B.1070201@iinet.net.au> On 12/05/12 15:13, Knapp wrote: > You said it was your site but your machine was not infected? How did > you get hacked? Was this your local machine or do you use a host? How > where they hacked and what are you going to do about that!! > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Ryan Gauger wrote: >> Sorry for being a little off-topic, but I think you gave just about enough >> information. It is very difficult to detect these malicious websites without >> an anti-malware app, and it is advertised for Linux that there is no need >> for this type of software, because Linux/Kubuntu doesn't get viruses. I have >> accidentally visited several malicious websites on Windows 7, so that is the >> main reason I decided to stick with Ubuntu. Thanks! "Exactamondo" :-) . BC From rayburke30 at gmail.com Sat May 12 05:33:13 2012 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 15:33:13 +1000 Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 9:34 AM, José Queiroz wrote: > > > 2012/5/11 ray burke >> >> Jos'e, >> >> what you mean 'start firefox in Profile Manager, to create a new >> profile:' and by doing what >> you say it should disappear from my kpackagelist? >> > > I mean exactly what I said: start firefox in Profile Manager, to create a > new profile. > > Maybe you should read about FF profiles? > http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Profiles > > No, by doing what I said, you'll not go back to FF9 [This is not a good > idea] neither avoid your system to update FF to FF12. > Doing what I said you'll just probably find why FF12 won't worked for you. > > >> ray >> >> >> On 5/12/12, José Queiroz wrote: >> > Instead avoiding update, try to disable your extensions/addons, or even >> > creating a new profile for you. >> > >> > start firefox w/ disabled addons: >> > >> > killall -TERM firefox >> > firefox -SecureMode >> > >> > start firefox in Profile Manager, to create a new profile: >> > >> > killall -TERM firefox >> > firefox -ProfileManager >> > >> > 2012/5/11 ray burke >> > >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> From: ray burke >> >> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000 >> >> Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 >> >> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> >> >> Can anyone help please- >> >> >> >> I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but >> >> after i rebooted and started ff11 when >> >> i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 >> >> attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my >> >> k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so >> >> how do I stop it updating to ff11, >> >> showing within my kpakagekit? see attached >> >> >> >> ray >> >> >> >> -- >> >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Jos'e, I have printed off that info about the firefox profile, so when I am in K10.10mm again I can follow the instruction, but if only enable me to stay on ff9, and what you,mean about "No, by doing what I said, you'll not go back to FF9 [This is not a good > idea] neither avoid your system to update FF to FF12. > Doing what I said you'll just probably find why FF12 won't worked for you." ray > From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat May 12 05:57:51 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 15:57:51 +1000 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FADFBDF.90205@iinet.net.au> On 12/05/12 07:43, ray burke wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: ray burke > Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000 > Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Can anyone help please- > > I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but > after i rebooted and started ff11 when > i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 > attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my > k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so > how do I stop it updating to ff11, > showing within my kpakagekit? see attached Ray, If I read what you say above correctly, you are still using v10.10 of Kubuntu, right? If so then you ought to know that support by Canonical for 10.10 stopped in April - and it is now May. (You would have received and e-mail advising you about the EOL of 10.10 some time ago.) You should be upgrading to at least the next version of Kubuntu, which is 11.04 - but keep it mind that this 11.04 will reach EOL (End Of Life) this coming October - ie, in 5 months time. You should also know that Firefox is now currently at version 12 (officially - but unofficially at v15 if you use the knightly builds). The upgrades since v9 which you are running contain many fixes including security fixes. Therefore you would be wise to upgrade your Kubuntu which would also upgrade your Firefox. BC From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat May 12 06:07:24 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 16:07:24 +1000 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: <4FADFBDF.90205@iinet.net.au> References: <4FADFBDF.90205@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FADFE1C.50909@iinet.net.au> On 12/05/12 15:57, Basil Chupin wrote: [......] > You should also know that Firefox is now currently at version 12 > (officially - but unofficially at v15 if you use the knightly builds). LOL. Must have been thinking about "Damsels in Distress" :-D . (Otherwise known as a 'Freudian Slip'.) I meant, "NIGHTLY builds"! :-) . BC From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat May 12 06:15:35 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 08:15:35 +0200 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: <4FADFBDF.90205@iinet.net.au> References: <4FADFBDF.90205@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FAE0007.7040504@gmail.com> On 12/05/12 07:57, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 12/05/12 07:43, ray burke wrote: >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: ray burke >> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000 >> Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 >> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> Can anyone help please- >> >> I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but >> after i rebooted and started ff11 when >> i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 >> attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my >> k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so >> how do I stop it updating to ff11, >> showing within my kpakagekit? see attached > > Ray, > > If I read what you say above correctly, you are still using v10.10 of > Kubuntu, right? > > If so then you ought to know that support by Canonical for 10.10 stopped > in April - and it is now May. (You would have received and e-mail > advising you about the EOL of 10.10 some time ago.) > > You should be upgrading to at least the next version of Kubuntu, which > is 11.04 - but keep it mind that this 11.04 will reach EOL (End Of Life) > this coming October - ie, in 5 months time. > > You should also know that Firefox is now currently at version 12 > (officially - but unofficially at v15 if you use the knightly builds). > The upgrades since v9 which you are running contain many fixes including > security fixes. > > Therefore you would be wise to upgrade your Kubuntu which would also > upgrade your Firefox. > > BC > Wise or not wise could depend on hardware and other issues. In my experience older hardware do better with older versions of linux. That has actually been confirmed by tests done by Phoronix where "sandy bridge" et al do better with 12.04 but hardware older than that do better with 10.10. So I would say (and I live by this rule myself): don't upgrade what works for the user. I have 3 laptops in the house and there is no question about it: the older ones run happier on older releases. The newest will not even work (graphic driver issues) on anything older than 11.04. Just a word on "it is always better to upgrade". Nope it aint, upgrades can break working software/hardware relations. Linux may be brilliant but regressions are not exactly uncommon. From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat May 12 06:26:23 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 16:26:23 +1000 Subject: Partitioning with KDE Partition Manager In-Reply-To: <5351232.V5KJaGpoRV@rachael> References: <1364155.8dUdftPtTy@rachael> <4FACC762.1080003@iinet.net.au> <4FACD586.8060700@whamra.com> <5351232.V5KJaGpoRV@rachael> Message-ID: <4FAE028F.1090307@iinet.net.au> On 11/05/12 19:28, Mark Fraser wrote: > On Friday 11 May 2012 12:01:58 Waleed Hamra wrote: >> On 05/11/2012 11:01 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> On 11/05/12 17:05, Mark Fraser wrote: >>>> I'm trying to repartition an SD card I've written an image to for use >>>> on a >>>> Raspberry Pi, but every time I try to do it the card gets messed up do >>>> to auto >>>> mount trying to mount the partitions even though I've told it not to. Any >>>> ideas on how to do it? >>> Would like to rewrite your post so that it is understandable as to what >>> you trying to say? >>> >>> Thanks. >> he's trying to repartition an SD card, for use with the raspberry pi >> (lucky him :P), but somehow, it gets messed up by auto mount. i don't >> know what he means by this, why would mounting it mess it up? > The Debian image is 2GB and comprises of /boot, / and swap partitions. I want > to repartition it to use the whole of a 16GB card by moving swap to the end > and enlarging the / partition. > > When I try to do this swap gets moved OK, but when it enlarges the / > partition, it seems like something tries to auto mount the partition after > which the card doesn't have a usable partition table. To start things off - I have no idea what a "Raspberry Pi" is; nor if it is even relevant to the problem. The first question is: what are you using to try and repartition this SD card? (And an addendum to my first statement: I haven't a clue how different an SD card is to an USB memory stick [whatever]. The only SD thingie I know is wot is in my camera - and it is the camera wot formats it :-) .) If you have already managed to partition the card with whatever application you used then you can repartition it again with the same application - BUT, BUT, my question is: are you able to afford to lose whatever is already on that card? If you can afford this - and therefore recreate the operating system which is now on it - then simply wipe the whole card clean and start afresh and re-install the os on it. On the other hand, if you cannot lose the system then have you tried to use System Rescue CD version 2.3.1 (don't go past this version as they don't contain as many useful application as this 2.3.1) to repartition the card? BC From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 12 06:30:46 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 08:30:46 +0200 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201205120830.46955.kassube@gmx.net> ray burke wrote: > I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but > after i rebooted and started ff11 when > i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 > attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my > k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so > how do I stop it updating to ff11, > showing within my kpakagekit? see attached While it is certainly better to find out why FF11 doesn't work and to fix that issue, you can prevent the upgrade to a newer package version as it is explained here: There is only a description for synaptic or the commandline, but after you have marked the package as hold, it should work with kpakagekit as well. Nils From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 12 06:51:48 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 08:51:48 +0200 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: <4FADFBDF.90205@iinet.net.au> References: <4FADFBDF.90205@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <201205120851.48515.kassube@gmx.net> Basil Chupin wrote: > On 12/05/12 07:43, ray burke wrote: > > I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, > > but after i rebooted and started ff11 when > > i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 > > attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my > > k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, > > so how do I stop it updating to ff11, > > showing within my kpakagekit? see attached > > If I read what you say above correctly, you are still using v10.10 of > Kubuntu, right? > > If so then you ought to know that support by Canonical for 10.10 > stopped in April - and it is now May. (You would have received and > e-mail advising you about the EOL of 10.10 some time ago.) I think you would only get that email if you subscribe e.g. to the ubuntu-security-announce list [1]. > You should be upgrading to at least the next version of Kubuntu, > which is 11.04 - but keep it mind that this 11.04 will reach EOL > (End Of Life) this coming October - ie, in 5 months time. I would suggest to try out 12.04 from a live CD. If that works on the existing hardware, I would install 12.04 directly, preserving the /home directory (be careful to not format the partition with that directory). Then the next EOL is 5 years away. Alas the kmail version coming with 12.04 is not yet usable for some people. But Ray doesn't seem to use kmail anyway, so that may not be an issue for him. Nils [1] From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Sat May 12 06:54:49 2012 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 07:54:49 +0100 Subject: Partitioning with KDE Partition Manager In-Reply-To: <4FAE028F.1090307@iinet.net.au> References: <1364155.8dUdftPtTy@rachael> <5351232.V5KJaGpoRV@rachael> <4FAE028F.1090307@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <2584550.taFnDsoBXh@rachael> On Saturday 12 May 2012 16:26:23 Basil Chupin wrote: > On 11/05/12 19:28, Mark Fraser wrote: > > On Friday 11 May 2012 12:01:58 Waleed Hamra wrote: > >> On 05/11/2012 11:01 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > >>> On 11/05/12 17:05, Mark Fraser wrote: > >>>> I'm trying to repartition an SD card I've written an image to for use > >>>> on a > >>>> Raspberry Pi, but every time I try to do it the card gets messed up do > >>>> to auto > >>>> mount trying to mount the partitions even though I've told it not to. > >>>> Any > >>>> ideas on how to do it? > >>> > >>> Would like to rewrite your post so that it is understandable as to what > >>> you trying to say? > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >> > >> he's trying to repartition an SD card, for use with the raspberry pi > >> (lucky him :P), but somehow, it gets messed up by auto mount. i don't > >> know what he means by this, why would mounting it mess it up? > > > > The Debian image is 2GB and comprises of /boot, / and swap partitions. I > > want to repartition it to use the whole of a 16GB card by moving swap to > > the end and enlarging the / partition. > > > > When I try to do this swap gets moved OK, but when it enlarges the / > > partition, it seems like something tries to auto mount the partition after > > which the card doesn't have a usable partition table. > > To start things off - I have no idea what a "Raspberry Pi" is; nor if it > is even relevant to the problem. This http://www.raspberrypi.org/ is a Raspberry Pi. > The first question is: what are you using to try and repartition this SD > card? I was trying to use the KDE Partition Manager to partition the card. > (And an addendum to my first statement: I haven't a clue how different > an SD card is to an USB memory stick [whatever]. The only SD thingie I > know is wot is in my camera - and it is the camera wot formats it :-) .) > > If you have already managed to partition the card with whatever > application you used then you can repartition it again with the same > application - BUT, BUT, my question is: are you able to afford to lose > whatever is already on that card? If you can afford this - and therefore > recreate the operating system which is now on it - then simply wipe the > whole card clean and start afresh and re-install the os on it. The operating system was supplied as an image file that was written to the card using Ubuntu ImageWriter and was 2GB in size as I was using a 16GB card I wanted to enlarge the root partition to use the whole of the card. > On the other hand, if you cannot lose the system then have you tried to > use System Rescue CD version 2.3.1 (don't go past this version as they > don't contain as many useful application as this 2.3.1) to repartition > the card? In the end I used this http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup guide and kept unmounting the partitions when Solid thought that I wanted to mount something. From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat May 12 07:09:43 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 17:09:43 +1000 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: <4FAE0007.7040504@gmail.com> References: <4FADFBDF.90205@iinet.net.au> <4FAE0007.7040504@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FAE0CB7.3050404@iinet.net.au> On 12/05/12 16:15, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 12/05/12 07:57, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 12/05/12 07:43, ray burke wrote: >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: ray burke >>> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000 >>> Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 >>> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> >>> Can anyone help please- >>> >>> I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but >>> after i rebooted and started ff11 when >>> i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 >>> attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my >>> k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so >>> how do I stop it updating to ff11, >>> showing within my kpakagekit? see attached >> >> Ray, >> >> If I read what you say above correctly, you are still using v10.10 of >> Kubuntu, right? >> >> If so then you ought to know that support by Canonical for 10.10 stopped >> in April - and it is now May. (You would have received and e-mail >> advising you about the EOL of 10.10 some time ago.) >> >> You should be upgrading to at least the next version of Kubuntu, which >> is 11.04 - but keep it mind that this 11.04 will reach EOL (End Of Life) >> this coming October - ie, in 5 months time. >> >> You should also know that Firefox is now currently at version 12 >> (officially - but unofficially at v15 if you use the knightly builds). >> The upgrades since v9 which you are running contain many fixes including >> security fixes. >> >> Therefore you would be wise to upgrade your Kubuntu which would also >> upgrade your Firefox. >> >> BC >> > Wise or not wise could depend on hardware and other issues. In my > experience older hardware do better with older versions of linux. That > has actually been confirmed by tests done by Phoronix where "sandy > bridge" et al do better with 12.04 but hardware older than that do > better with 10.10. > > So I would say (and I live by this rule myself): don't upgrade what > works for the user. I have 3 laptops in the house and there is no > question about it: the older ones run happier on older releases. The > newest will not even work (graphic driver issues) on anything older > than 11.04. > > Just a word on "it is always better to upgrade". Nope it aint, > upgrades can break working software/hardware relations. Linux may be > brilliant but regressions are not exactly uncommon. Until just a few weeks ago - when I built for myself a new 64-bit system - I was using a 32-bit system which I built ~7 years ago. In that period I have used/installed quite a number of Linux distros and have never really had any hassles with any of them. Sure, when trying out some beta, or something earlier, then I could get into a hassle - as expected when you dealing with something like a beta - but nothing was ever "fatal"; annoying yes, but not "fatal". Perhaps it could be said that for some 7 years I led a 'magical' life with little problems re Linux software - ESPECIALLY as I am a "always-keeping-up-to-date" freak. If it is the latest, I will install it. While you are correct in saying that, "If it ain't broke don't fix it", you surely have to acknowledge that when a system is declared as no longer supported and that some application has been upgraded because of security (and other) reasons then it is time to "move with the times" and install the latest software? Or are you happy to argue that running Kubuntu version 5.04 is quite acceptable? Or having Windows 3.1.1 still acceptable to run by those who are MS zealots? The OP said that he is running Kubuntu 10.10 which has now reached its EOL. He is also using Firefox 9 (latest version 12, with 15.0.x being tested). And with this combination he is having problems. He may be having hassles because what he tried to update did not agree with the now unsupported Kubuntu 10.10. I don't really know, but it is a possibility. To find which is the case he should upgrade from Kubuntu 10.10 - and see if his system cannot handle it; in which case he can then decide why this is so and ask questions about how to go about solving his problem. I say this because I don't believe that Ray can be using such an ancient computer which could not handle something like Kubuntu v 11.04 at least. If it now handling 10.10 then it can handle 11.04. BC From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat May 12 07:20:35 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 17:20:35 +1000 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: <201205120851.48515.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4FADFBDF.90205@iinet.net.au> <201205120851.48515.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4FAE0F43.5020904@iinet.net.au> On 12/05/12 16:51, Nils Kassube wrote: > Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 12/05/12 07:43, ray burke wrote: >>> I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, >>> but after i rebooted and started ff11 when >>> i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 >>> attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my >>> k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, >>> so how do I stop it updating to ff11, >>> showing within my kpakagekit? see attached >> If I read what you say above correctly, you are still using v10.10 of >> Kubuntu, right? >> >> If so then you ought to know that support by Canonical for 10.10 >> stopped in April - and it is now May. (You would have received and >> e-mail advising you about the EOL of 10.10 some time ago.) > I think you would only get that email if you subscribe e.g. to the > ubuntu-security-announce list [1]. I am not subscribed to ubuntu-security-announce. I simply get a 'private' e-mail from Kate Stewart telling me when something new is released or when something is about to reach its EOL. > You should be upgrading to at least the next version of Kubuntu, > which is 11.04 - but keep it mind that this 11.04 will reach EOL > (End Of Life) this coming October - ie, in 5 months time. > I would suggest to try out 12.04 from a live CD. If that works on the > existing hardware, I would install 12.04 directly, preserving the /home > directory (be careful to not format the partition with that directory). > Then the next EOL is 5 years away. Alas the kmail version coming with > 12.04 is not yet usable for some people. But Ray doesn't seem to use > kmail anyway, so that may not be an issue for him. Yep, I agree with this - try out the LIVE version. And I cannot see why he should have problems with it - except that he may not like Unity or whatever else that is now foisted on people :-( . BC From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat May 12 07:28:55 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 17:28:55 +1000 Subject: Partitioning with KDE Partition Manager In-Reply-To: <2584550.taFnDsoBXh@rachael> References: <1364155.8dUdftPtTy@rachael> <5351232.V5KJaGpoRV@rachael> <4FAE028F.1090307@iinet.net.au> <2584550.taFnDsoBXh@rachael> Message-ID: <4FAE1137.40707@iinet.net.au> On 12/05/12 16:54, Mark Fraser wrote: [............] > In the end I used this http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup guide and kept > unmounting the partitions when Solid thought that I wanted to mount something. So, in the end you solved your problem but didn't tell us that you solved it and how you solved it :-) . BC From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Sat May 12 07:43:46 2012 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 08:43:46 +0100 Subject: Partitioning with KDE Partition Manager In-Reply-To: <4FAE1137.40707@iinet.net.au> References: <1364155.8dUdftPtTy@rachael> <2584550.taFnDsoBXh@rachael> <4FAE1137.40707@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <3834242.HBSLKXajKL@rachael> On Saturday 12 May 2012 17:28:55 Basil Chupin wrote: > On 12/05/12 16:54, Mark Fraser wrote: > > [............] > > > In the end I used this http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup guide and > > kept unmounting the partitions when Solid thought that I wanted to mount > > something. > So, in the end you solved your problem but didn't tell us that you > solved it and how you solved it :-) . Yes, because I only solved it last night and was too tired to write a proper email to this mailing list. Now that it is morning again I wrote how I did it. From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 12 08:25:39 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 10:25:39 +0200 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: <4FAE0F43.5020904@iinet.net.au> References: <201205120851.48515.kassube@gmx.net> <4FAE0F43.5020904@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <201205121025.39861.kassube@gmx.net> Basil Chupin wrote: > On 12/05/12 16:51, Nils Kassube wrote: > > Basil Chupin wrote: > >> If so then you ought to know that support by Canonical for 10.10 > >> stopped in April - and it is now May. (You would have received and > >> e-mail advising you about the EOL of 10.10 some time ago.) > > > > I think you would only get that email if you subscribe e.g. to the > > ubuntu-security-announce list [1]. > > I am not subscribed to ubuntu-security-announce. > > I simply get a 'private' e-mail from Kate Stewart telling me when > something new is released or when something is about to reach its > EOL. That's interesting - how do they know your address and that you would want such a reminder? Anyway, I probably never received such a private mail because I always upgrade to a newer version long before EOL. > > You should be upgrading to at least the next version of Kubuntu, > > which is 11.04 - but keep it mind that this 11.04 will reach EOL > > (End Of Life) this coming October - ie, in 5 months time. > > I would suggest to try out 12.04 from a live CD. If that works on > > the existing hardware, I would install 12.04 directly, preserving > > the /home directory (be careful to not format the partition with > > that directory). Then the next EOL is 5 years away. Alas the kmail > > version coming with 12.04 is not yet usable for some people. But > > Ray doesn't seem to use kmail anyway, so that may not be an issue > > for him. > > Yep, I agree with this - try out the LIVE version. And I cannot see > why he should have problems with it - except that he may not like > Unity or whatever else that is now foisted on people :-( . This is the Kubuntu list, so we don't have to worry about unity. :) OTOH, there may be hardware issues - e.g. with 12.04 I can't receive FM radio with my analog TV/Radio card any longer out of the box due to a kernel issue. An older release (8.04?) stopped supporting a WLAN stick I was using at that time. That's why I always test a new release before I upgrade. If it doesn't work, I can search for fixes / workarounds without hurry while I can still use the machine with the older version. Nils From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat May 12 09:33:53 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 11:33:53 +0200 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: <4FAE0CB7.3050404@iinet.net.au> References: <4FADFBDF.90205@iinet.net.au> <4FAE0007.7040504@gmail.com> <4FAE0CB7.3050404@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FAE2E81.2070200@gmail.com> On 12/05/12 09:09, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 12/05/12 16:15, O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 12/05/12 07:57, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> On 12/05/12 07:43, ray burke wrote: >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: ray burke >>>> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000 >>>> Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 >>>> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>> >>>> Can anyone help please- >>>> >>>> I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but >>>> after i rebooted and started ff11 when >>>> i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 >>>> attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my >>>> k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so >>>> how do I stop it updating to ff11, >>>> showing within my kpakagekit? see attached >>> >>> Ray, >>> >>> If I read what you say above correctly, you are still using v10.10 of >>> Kubuntu, right? >>> >>> If so then you ought to know that support by Canonical for 10.10 stopped >>> in April - and it is now May. (You would have received and e-mail >>> advising you about the EOL of 10.10 some time ago.) >>> >>> You should be upgrading to at least the next version of Kubuntu, which >>> is 11.04 - but keep it mind that this 11.04 will reach EOL (End Of Life) >>> this coming October - ie, in 5 months time. >>> >>> You should also know that Firefox is now currently at version 12 >>> (officially - but unofficially at v15 if you use the knightly builds). >>> The upgrades since v9 which you are running contain many fixes including >>> security fixes. >>> >>> Therefore you would be wise to upgrade your Kubuntu which would also >>> upgrade your Firefox. >>> >>> BC >>> >> Wise or not wise could depend on hardware and other issues. In my >> experience older hardware do better with older versions of linux. That >> has actually been confirmed by tests done by Phoronix where "sandy >> bridge" et al do better with 12.04 but hardware older than that do >> better with 10.10. >> >> So I would say (and I live by this rule myself): don't upgrade what >> works for the user. I have 3 laptops in the house and there is no >> question about it: the older ones run happier on older releases. The >> newest will not even work (graphic driver issues) on anything older >> than 11.04. >> >> Just a word on "it is always better to upgrade". Nope it aint, >> upgrades can break working software/hardware relations. Linux may be >> brilliant but regressions are not exactly uncommon. > > Until just a few weeks ago - when I built for myself a new 64-bit system > - I was using a 32-bit system which I built ~7 years ago. > > In that period I have used/installed quite a number of Linux distros and > have never really had any hassles with any of them. Sure, when trying > out some beta, or something earlier, then I could get into a hassle - as > expected when you dealing with something like a beta - but nothing was > ever "fatal"; annoying yes, but not "fatal". > > Perhaps it could be said that for some 7 years I led a 'magical' life > with little problems re Linux software - ESPECIALLY as I am a > "always-keeping-up-to-date" freak. If it is the latest, I will install it. > > While you are correct in saying that, "If it ain't broke don't fix it", > you surely have to acknowledge that when a system is declared as no > longer supported and that some application has been upgraded because of > security (and other) reasons then it is time to "move with the times" > and install the latest software? > > Or are you happy to argue that running Kubuntu version 5.04 is quite > acceptable? Or having Windows 3.1.1 still acceptable to run by those who > are MS zealots? > > The OP said that he is running Kubuntu 10.10 which has now reached its > EOL. He is also using Firefox 9 (latest version 12, with 15.0.x being > tested). And with this combination he is having problems. > > He may be having hassles because what he tried to update did not agree > with the now unsupported Kubuntu 10.10. I don't really know, but it is a > possibility. > > To find which is the case he should upgrade from Kubuntu 10.10 - and see > if his system cannot handle it; in which case he can then decide why > this is so and ask questions about how to go about solving his problem. > I say this because I don't believe that Ray can be using such an ancient > computer which could not handle something like Kubuntu v 11.04 at least. > If it now handling 10.10 then it can handle 11.04. > this is kind of a philosophical discussion but for starters the Windows 3.1 can not be compared to *buntu 10.10. It is more than 10 years between them. However, if I still had a 80286 pc somewhere I would not throw anything newer than w95 at it. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3ODQ states what I am hinting at. For "older" computers (in this case more than 2 years) you are better off with older versions of the distro. I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 that runs slick on 10.10 and get various graphic driver issues with newer distros. I currently own a HP laptop that can not be used with anything older than 11.04 due to hardware (again the bloody graphics) issues. Security is only one part of the formula. Any linux distro is better than most version of Windows at whatever age. Updating to later versions of Open/Libre office and Firefox or Chrome can be done via their download sites, repositories are not the only way of upgrading applications. So my oldest stays on 10.10 "no matter what" because then it operates nicely. Newer versions chokes it and I do not have the energy to try out x number of distros that might be better suited for the hardware. The newest lappy is now on 12.04 and from how it looks might stay on that as now "almost everything" works as can be expected from the hardware. If I ever buy a Ivy or Sandy or something a newer release will likely be needed. Best, Sinclair From mitchell at tufala.net Sat May 12 11:40:44 2012 From: mitchell at tufala.net (mitchell) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 14:40:44 +0300 Subject: Detecting malicious websites In-Reply-To: <4FADF50B.1070201@iinet.net.au> References: <4FADCEEB.4020101@iinet.net.au> <4FADF50B.1070201@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Ryan Gauger wrote: >> >>> Sorry for being a little off-topic, but I think you gave just about >>> enough >>> information. It is very difficult to detect these malicious websites >>> without >>> an anti-malware app, and it is advertised for Linux that there is no need >>> for this type of software, because Linux/Kubuntu doesn't get viruses. I >>> have >>> accidentally visited several malicious websites on Windows 7, so that is >>> the >>> main reason I decided to stick with Ubuntu. Thanks! >>> >> Detecting if your website was compromised from your local machine is a wrong approach. Generally, you would want to do this on the server, hosting the website, by monitoring the server logs and the modifications to the files of the website. In your case, I guess that your mother's computer got infected, and the virus modified the files on the website using FTP. This is how can spread to other computers. This would be visible in the FTP logs. I suggest that you also monitor your files for changes. The easiest way to do this, is run a cron that makes a recursive directory listing every hour, compare it with the listing from the previous hour, and e-mail you if there are differences. Regards, -- # mitchell Web: http://csc.bg, E-mail: mitchell at csc.bg, mitchell at tufala.net Jabber / Google Talk: mitchell at tufala.net, mitchell at jabber.del.bg ICQ: 164274286 Skype: mukareste -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thomas at tanghus.net Sat May 12 18:16:48 2012 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Tanghus) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 20:16:48 +0200 Subject: Detecting malicious websites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3969330.4TdhPeS7tv@tanghus> On Friday 11 May 2012 18:30 Richard S. Crawford wrote: > This morning one of my personal sites was hacked and malicious code > inserted into the index file. I only found out because my mother went to > the site and her computer was compromised. I did not discover this myself > because I obviously don't run any anti-malware software on my computer. > > Is there a way to detect malicious websites while running Kubuntu? My > browser of choice, if it matters, is Chrome. A quick search using https://duckduckgo.com/?q=linux+detect+website+infection came up with several solutions: http://www.rfxn.com/projects/linux-malware-detect/ http://milky.manishsinha.net/2007/06/21/installing-and-configuring-clamav-antivirus-on-your-ubuntu/ http://forums.eukhost.com/f42/how-scan-clean-website-viruses-13199/ ... -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus From rayburke30 at gmail.com Sun May 13 05:45:22 2012 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 15:45:22 +1000 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: <4FAE2E81.2070200@gmail.com> References: <4FADFBDF.90205@iinet.net.au> <4FAE0007.7040504@gmail.com> <4FAE0CB7.3050404@iinet.net.au> <4FAE2E81.2070200@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sinclair, well how do you think I can fix my problem? ray On 5/12/12, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 12/05/12 09:09, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 12/05/12 16:15, O. Sinclair wrote: >>> On 12/05/12 07:57, Basil Chupin wrote: >>>> On 12/05/12 07:43, ray burke wrote: >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: ray burke >>>>> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000 >>>>> Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 >>>>> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone help please- >>>>> >>>>> I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but >>>>> after i rebooted and started ff11 when >>>>> i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 >>>>> attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my >>>>> k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so >>>>> how do I stop it updating to ff11, >>>>> showing within my kpakagekit? see attached >>>> >>>> Ray, >>>> >>>> If I read what you say above correctly, you are still using v10.10 of >>>> Kubuntu, right? >>>> >>>> If so then you ought to know that support by Canonical for 10.10 >>>> stopped >>>> in April - and it is now May. (You would have received and e-mail >>>> advising you about the EOL of 10.10 some time ago.) >>>> >>>> You should be upgrading to at least the next version of Kubuntu, which >>>> is 11.04 - but keep it mind that this 11.04 will reach EOL (End Of >>>> Life) >>>> this coming October - ie, in 5 months time. >>>> >>>> You should also know that Firefox is now currently at version 12 >>>> (officially - but unofficially at v15 if you use the knightly builds). >>>> The upgrades since v9 which you are running contain many fixes >>>> including >>>> security fixes. >>>> >>>> Therefore you would be wise to upgrade your Kubuntu which would also >>>> upgrade your Firefox. >>>> >>>> BC >>>> >>> Wise or not wise could depend on hardware and other issues. In my >>> experience older hardware do better with older versions of linux. That >>> has actually been confirmed by tests done by Phoronix where "sandy >>> bridge" et al do better with 12.04 but hardware older than that do >>> better with 10.10. >>> >>> So I would say (and I live by this rule myself): don't upgrade what >>> works for the user. I have 3 laptops in the house and there is no >>> question about it: the older ones run happier on older releases. The >>> newest will not even work (graphic driver issues) on anything older >>> than 11.04. >>> >>> Just a word on "it is always better to upgrade". Nope it aint, >>> upgrades can break working software/hardware relations. Linux may be >>> brilliant but regressions are not exactly uncommon. >> >> Until just a few weeks ago - when I built for myself a new 64-bit system >> - I was using a 32-bit system which I built ~7 years ago. >> >> In that period I have used/installed quite a number of Linux distros and >> have never really had any hassles with any of them. Sure, when trying >> out some beta, or something earlier, then I could get into a hassle - as >> expected when you dealing with something like a beta - but nothing was >> ever "fatal"; annoying yes, but not "fatal". >> >> Perhaps it could be said that for some 7 years I led a 'magical' life >> with little problems re Linux software - ESPECIALLY as I am a >> "always-keeping-up-to-date" freak. If it is the latest, I will install >> it. >> >> While you are correct in saying that, "If it ain't broke don't fix it", >> you surely have to acknowledge that when a system is declared as no >> longer supported and that some application has been upgraded because of >> security (and other) reasons then it is time to "move with the times" >> and install the latest software? >> >> Or are you happy to argue that running Kubuntu version 5.04 is quite >> acceptable? Or having Windows 3.1.1 still acceptable to run by those who >> are MS zealots? >> >> The OP said that he is running Kubuntu 10.10 which has now reached its >> EOL. He is also using Firefox 9 (latest version 12, with 15.0.x being >> tested). And with this combination he is having problems. >> >> He may be having hassles because what he tried to update did not agree >> with the now unsupported Kubuntu 10.10. I don't really know, but it is a >> possibility. >> >> To find which is the case he should upgrade from Kubuntu 10.10 - and see >> if his system cannot handle it; in which case he can then decide why >> this is so and ask questions about how to go about solving his problem. >> I say this because I don't believe that Ray can be using such an ancient >> computer which could not handle something like Kubuntu v 11.04 at least. >> If it now handling 10.10 then it can handle 11.04. >> > > this is kind of a philosophical discussion but for starters the Windows > 3.1 can not be compared to *buntu 10.10. It is more than 10 years > between them. However, if I still had a 80286 pc somewhere I would not > throw anything newer than w95 at it. > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3ODQ > states what I am hinting at. For "older" computers (in this case more > than 2 years) you are better off with older versions of the distro. I > have a Dell Inspiron 6400 that runs slick on 10.10 and get various > graphic driver issues with newer distros. I currently own a HP laptop > that can not be used with anything older than 11.04 due to hardware > (again the bloody graphics) issues. > > Security is only one part of the formula. Any linux distro is better > than most version of Windows at whatever age. Updating to later versions > of Open/Libre office and Firefox or Chrome can be done via their > download sites, repositories are not the only way of upgrading > applications. > > So my oldest stays on 10.10 "no matter what" because then it operates > nicely. Newer versions chokes it and I do not have the energy to try out > x number of distros that might be better suited for the hardware. The > newest lappy is now on 12.04 and from how it looks might stay on that as > now "almost everything" works as can be expected from the hardware. > > If I ever buy a Ivy or Sandy or something a newer release will likely be > needed. > > Best, > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun May 13 06:02:36 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 08:02:36 +0200 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: References: <4FADFBDF.90205@iinet.net.au> <4FAE0007.7040504@gmail.com> <4FAE0CB7.3050404@iinet.net.au> <4FAE2E81.2070200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FAF4E7C.8030807@gmail.com> On 13/05/12 07:45, ray burke wrote: > Sinclair, > > well how do you think I can fix my problem? If you want to upgrade Firefox but stay on 10.10 I recommend you check Firefox download for linux and try install the latest version. http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html there are numerous how-to regarding installation, here is one: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Installing%20Firefox%20on%20Linux > > ray > > On 5/12/12, O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 12/05/12 09:09, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> On 12/05/12 16:15, O. Sinclair wrote: >>>> On 12/05/12 07:57, Basil Chupin wrote: >>>>> On 12/05/12 07:43, ray burke wrote: >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: ray burke >>>>>> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000 >>>>>> Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 >>>>>> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Can anyone help please- >>>>>> >>>>>> I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but >>>>>> after i rebooted and started ff11 when >>>>>> i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 >>>>>> attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my >>>>>> k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so >>>>>> how do I stop it updating to ff11, >>>>>> showing within my kpakagekit? see attached >>>>> >>>>> Ray, >>>>> >>>>> If I read what you say above correctly, you are still using v10.10 of >>>>> Kubuntu, right? >>>>> >>>>> If so then you ought to know that support by Canonical for 10.10 >>>>> stopped >>>>> in April - and it is now May. (You would have received and e-mail >>>>> advising you about the EOL of 10.10 some time ago.) >>>>> >>>>> You should be upgrading to at least the next version of Kubuntu, which >>>>> is 11.04 - but keep it mind that this 11.04 will reach EOL (End Of >>>>> Life) >>>>> this coming October - ie, in 5 months time. >>>>> >>>>> You should also know that Firefox is now currently at version 12 >>>>> (officially - but unofficially at v15 if you use the knightly builds). >>>>> The upgrades since v9 which you are running contain many fixes >>>>> including >>>>> security fixes. >>>>> >>>>> Therefore you would be wise to upgrade your Kubuntu which would also >>>>> upgrade your Firefox. >>>>> >>>>> BC >>>>> >>>> Wise or not wise could depend on hardware and other issues. In my >>>> experience older hardware do better with older versions of linux. That >>>> has actually been confirmed by tests done by Phoronix where "sandy >>>> bridge" et al do better with 12.04 but hardware older than that do >>>> better with 10.10. >>>> >>>> So I would say (and I live by this rule myself): don't upgrade what >>>> works for the user. I have 3 laptops in the house and there is no >>>> question about it: the older ones run happier on older releases. The >>>> newest will not even work (graphic driver issues) on anything older >>>> than 11.04. >>>> >>>> Just a word on "it is always better to upgrade". Nope it aint, >>>> upgrades can break working software/hardware relations. Linux may be >>>> brilliant but regressions are not exactly uncommon. >>> >>> Until just a few weeks ago - when I built for myself a new 64-bit system >>> - I was using a 32-bit system which I built ~7 years ago. >>> >>> In that period I have used/installed quite a number of Linux distros and >>> have never really had any hassles with any of them. Sure, when trying >>> out some beta, or something earlier, then I could get into a hassle - as >>> expected when you dealing with something like a beta - but nothing was >>> ever "fatal"; annoying yes, but not "fatal". >>> >>> Perhaps it could be said that for some 7 years I led a 'magical' life >>> with little problems re Linux software - ESPECIALLY as I am a >>> "always-keeping-up-to-date" freak. If it is the latest, I will install >>> it. >>> >>> While you are correct in saying that, "If it ain't broke don't fix it", >>> you surely have to acknowledge that when a system is declared as no >>> longer supported and that some application has been upgraded because of >>> security (and other) reasons then it is time to "move with the times" >>> and install the latest software? >>> >>> Or are you happy to argue that running Kubuntu version 5.04 is quite >>> acceptable? Or having Windows 3.1.1 still acceptable to run by those who >>> are MS zealots? >>> >>> The OP said that he is running Kubuntu 10.10 which has now reached its >>> EOL. He is also using Firefox 9 (latest version 12, with 15.0.x being >>> tested). And with this combination he is having problems. >>> >>> He may be having hassles because what he tried to update did not agree >>> with the now unsupported Kubuntu 10.10. I don't really know, but it is a >>> possibility. >>> >>> To find which is the case he should upgrade from Kubuntu 10.10 - and see >>> if his system cannot handle it; in which case he can then decide why >>> this is so and ask questions about how to go about solving his problem. >>> I say this because I don't believe that Ray can be using such an ancient >>> computer which could not handle something like Kubuntu v 11.04 at least. >>> If it now handling 10.10 then it can handle 11.04. >>> >> >> this is kind of a philosophical discussion but for starters the Windows >> 3.1 can not be compared to *buntu 10.10. It is more than 10 years >> between them. However, if I still had a 80286 pc somewhere I would not >> throw anything newer than w95 at it. >> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3ODQ >> states what I am hinting at. For "older" computers (in this case more >> than 2 years) you are better off with older versions of the distro. I >> have a Dell Inspiron 6400 that runs slick on 10.10 and get various >> graphic driver issues with newer distros. I currently own a HP laptop >> that can not be used with anything older than 11.04 due to hardware >> (again the bloody graphics) issues. >> >> Security is only one part of the formula. Any linux distro is better >> than most version of Windows at whatever age. Updating to later versions >> of Open/Libre office and Firefox or Chrome can be done via their >> download sites, repositories are not the only way of upgrading >> applications. >> >> So my oldest stays on 10.10 "no matter what" because then it operates >> nicely. Newer versions chokes it and I do not have the energy to try out >> x number of distros that might be better suited for the hardware. The >> newest lappy is now on 12.04 and from how it looks might stay on that as >> now "almost everything" works as can be expected from the hardware. >> >> If I ever buy a Ivy or Sandy or something a newer release will likely be >> needed. >> >> Best, >> Sinclair >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > From rayburke30 at gmail.com Sun May 13 06:29:51 2012 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 16:29:51 +1000 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: <4FAF4E7C.8030807@gmail.com> References: <4FADFBDF.90205@iinet.net.au> <4FAE0007.7040504@gmail.com> <4FAE0CB7.3050404@iinet.net.au> <4FAE2E81.2070200@gmail.com> <4FAF4E7C.8030807@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 13/05/12 07:45, ray burke wrote: >> >> Sinclair, >> >> well how do you think I can fix  my problem? > > If you want to upgrade Firefox but stay on 10.10 I recommend you check > Firefox download for linux and try install the latest version. > > http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html > > there are numerous how-to regarding installation, here is one: > http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Installing%20Firefox%20on%20Linux > > > >> >> ray >> >> On 5/12/12, O. Sinclair  wrote: >>> >>> On 12/05/12 09:09, Basil Chupin wrote: >>>> >>>> On 12/05/12 16:15, O. Sinclair wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 12/05/12 07:57, Basil Chupin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/05/12 07:43, ray burke wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: ray burke >>>>>>> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000 >>>>>>> Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 >>>>>>> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can anyone help please- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but >>>>>>> after i rebooted and started ff11 when >>>>>>> i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 >>>>>>> attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my >>>>>>> k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so >>>>>>> how do I stop it updating to ff11, >>>>>>> showing within my kpakagekit? see attached >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ray, >>>>>> >>>>>> If I read what you say above correctly, you are still using v10.10 of >>>>>> Kubuntu, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> If so then you ought to know that support by Canonical for 10.10 >>>>>> stopped >>>>>> in April - and it is now May. (You would have received and e-mail >>>>>> advising you about the EOL of 10.10 some time ago.) >>>>>> >>>>>> You should be upgrading to at least the next version of Kubuntu, which >>>>>> is 11.04 - but keep it mind that this 11.04 will reach EOL (End Of >>>>>> Life) >>>>>> this coming October - ie, in 5 months time. >>>>>> >>>>>> You should also know that Firefox is now currently at version 12 >>>>>> (officially - but unofficially at v15 if you use the knightly builds). >>>>>> The upgrades since v9 which you are running contain many fixes >>>>>> including >>>>>> security fixes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Therefore you would be wise to upgrade your Kubuntu which would also >>>>>> upgrade your Firefox. >>>>>> >>>>>> BC >>>>>> >>>>> Wise or not wise could depend on hardware and other issues. In my >>>>> experience older hardware do better with older versions of linux. That >>>>> has actually been confirmed by tests done by Phoronix where "sandy >>>>> bridge" et al do better with 12.04 but hardware older than that do >>>>> better with 10.10. >>>>> >>>>> So I would say (and I live by this rule myself): don't upgrade what >>>>> works for the user. I have 3 laptops in the house and there is no >>>>> question about it: the older ones run happier on older releases. The >>>>> newest will not even work (graphic driver issues) on anything older >>>>> than 11.04. >>>>> >>>>> Just a word on "it is always better to upgrade". Nope it aint, >>>>> upgrades can break working software/hardware relations. Linux may be >>>>> brilliant but regressions are not exactly uncommon. >>>> >>>> >>>> Until just a few weeks ago - when I built for myself a new 64-bit system >>>> - I was using a 32-bit system which I built ~7 years ago. >>>> >>>> In that period I have used/installed quite a number of Linux distros and >>>> have never really had any hassles with any of them. Sure, when trying >>>> out some beta, or something earlier, then I could get into a hassle - as >>>> expected when you dealing with something like a beta - but nothing was >>>> ever "fatal"; annoying yes, but not "fatal". >>>> >>>> Perhaps it could be said that for some 7 years I led a 'magical' life >>>> with little problems re Linux software - ESPECIALLY as I am a >>>> "always-keeping-up-to-date" freak. If it is the latest, I will install >>>> it. >>>> >>>> While you are correct in saying that, "If it ain't broke don't fix it", >>>> you surely have to acknowledge that when a system is declared as no >>>> longer supported and that some application has been upgraded because of >>>> security (and other) reasons then it is time to "move with the times" >>>> and install the latest software? >>>> >>>> Or are you happy to argue that running Kubuntu version 5.04 is quite >>>> acceptable? Or having Windows 3.1.1 still acceptable to run by those who >>>> are MS zealots? >>>> >>>> The OP said that he is running Kubuntu 10.10 which has now reached its >>>> EOL. He is also using Firefox 9 (latest version 12, with 15.0.x being >>>> tested). And with this combination he is having problems. >>>> >>>> He may be having hassles because what he tried to update did not agree >>>> with the now unsupported Kubuntu 10.10. I don't really know, but it is a >>>> possibility. >>>> >>>> To find which is the case he should upgrade from Kubuntu 10.10 - and see >>>> if his system cannot handle it; in which case he can then decide why >>>> this is so and ask questions about how to go about solving his problem. >>>> I say this because I don't believe that Ray can be using such an ancient >>>> computer which could not handle something like Kubuntu v 11.04 at least. >>>> If it now handling 10.10 then it can handle 11.04. >>>> >>> >>> this is kind of a philosophical discussion but for starters the Windows >>> 3.1 can not be compared to *buntu 10.10. It is more than 10 years >>> between them. However, if I still had a 80286 pc somewhere I would not >>> throw anything newer than w95 at it. >>> >>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3ODQ >>> states what I am hinting at. For "older" computers (in this case more >>> than 2 years) you are better off with older versions of the distro. I >>> have a Dell Inspiron 6400 that runs slick on 10.10 and get various >>> graphic driver issues with newer distros. I currently own a HP laptop >>> that can not be used with anything older than 11.04 due to hardware >>> (again the bloody graphics) issues. >>> >>> Security is only one part of the formula. Any linux distro is better >>> than most version of Windows at whatever age. Updating to later versions >>> of Open/Libre office and Firefox or Chrome can be done via their >>> download sites, repositories are not the only way of upgrading >>> applications. >>> >>> So my oldest stays on 10.10 "no matter what" because then it operates >>> nicely. Newer versions chokes it and I do not have the energy to try out >>> x number of distros that might be better suited for the hardware. The >>> newest lappy is now on 12.04 and from how it looks might stay on that as >>> now "almost everything" works as can be expected from the hardware. >>> >>> If I ever buy a Ivy or Sandy or something a newer release will likely be >>> needed. >>> >>> Best, >>> Sinclair >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> >> > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Sinclair, No I want to stay with 9.0? ray From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun May 13 06:48:49 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 08:48:49 +0200 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: References: <4FADFBDF.90205@iinet.net.au> <4FAE0007.7040504@gmail.com> <4FAE0CB7.3050404@iinet.net.au> <4FAE2E81.2070200@gmail.com> <4FAF4E7C.8030807@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FAF5951.1000206@gmail.com> On 13/05/12 08:29, ray burke wrote: > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 13/05/12 07:45, ray burke wrote: >>> >>> Sinclair, >>> >>> well how do you think I can fix my problem? >> >> If you want to upgrade Firefox but stay on 10.10 I recommend you check >> Firefox download for linux and try install the latest version. >> >> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html >> >> there are numerous how-to regarding installation, here is one: >> http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Installing%20Firefox%20on%20Linux >> >> >> >>> >>> ray >>> >>> On 5/12/12, O. Sinclair wrote: >>>> >>>> On 12/05/12 09:09, Basil Chupin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 12/05/12 16:15, O. Sinclair wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/05/12 07:57, Basil Chupin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/05/12 07:43, ray burke wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>> From: ray burke >>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000 >>>>>>>> Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11 >>>>>>>> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can anyone help please- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but >>>>>>>> after i rebooted and started ff11 when >>>>>>>> i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11 >>>>>>>> attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my >>>>>>>> k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so >>>>>>>> how do I stop it updating to ff11, >>>>>>>> showing within my kpakagekit? see attached >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ray, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I read what you say above correctly, you are still using v10.10 of >>>>>>> Kubuntu, right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If so then you ought to know that support by Canonical for 10.10 >>>>>>> stopped >>>>>>> in April - and it is now May. (You would have received and e-mail >>>>>>> advising you about the EOL of 10.10 some time ago.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You should be upgrading to at least the next version of Kubuntu, which >>>>>>> is 11.04 - but keep it mind that this 11.04 will reach EOL (End Of >>>>>>> Life) >>>>>>> this coming October - ie, in 5 months time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You should also know that Firefox is now currently at version 12 >>>>>>> (officially - but unofficially at v15 if you use the knightly builds). >>>>>>> The upgrades since v9 which you are running contain many fixes >>>>>>> including >>>>>>> security fixes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Therefore you would be wise to upgrade your Kubuntu which would also >>>>>>> upgrade your Firefox. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BC >>>>>>> >>>>>> Wise or not wise could depend on hardware and other issues. In my >>>>>> experience older hardware do better with older versions of linux. That >>>>>> has actually been confirmed by tests done by Phoronix where "sandy >>>>>> bridge" et al do better with 12.04 but hardware older than that do >>>>>> better with 10.10. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I would say (and I live by this rule myself): don't upgrade what >>>>>> works for the user. I have 3 laptops in the house and there is no >>>>>> question about it: the older ones run happier on older releases. The >>>>>> newest will not even work (graphic driver issues) on anything older >>>>>> than 11.04. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just a word on "it is always better to upgrade". Nope it aint, >>>>>> upgrades can break working software/hardware relations. Linux may be >>>>>> brilliant but regressions are not exactly uncommon. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Until just a few weeks ago - when I built for myself a new 64-bit system >>>>> - I was using a 32-bit system which I built ~7 years ago. >>>>> >>>>> In that period I have used/installed quite a number of Linux distros and >>>>> have never really had any hassles with any of them. Sure, when trying >>>>> out some beta, or something earlier, then I could get into a hassle - as >>>>> expected when you dealing with something like a beta - but nothing was >>>>> ever "fatal"; annoying yes, but not "fatal". >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps it could be said that for some 7 years I led a 'magical' life >>>>> with little problems re Linux software - ESPECIALLY as I am a >>>>> "always-keeping-up-to-date" freak. If it is the latest, I will install >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> While you are correct in saying that, "If it ain't broke don't fix it", >>>>> you surely have to acknowledge that when a system is declared as no >>>>> longer supported and that some application has been upgraded because of >>>>> security (and other) reasons then it is time to "move with the times" >>>>> and install the latest software? >>>>> >>>>> Or are you happy to argue that running Kubuntu version 5.04 is quite >>>>> acceptable? Or having Windows 3.1.1 still acceptable to run by those who >>>>> are MS zealots? >>>>> >>>>> The OP said that he is running Kubuntu 10.10 which has now reached its >>>>> EOL. He is also using Firefox 9 (latest version 12, with 15.0.x being >>>>> tested). And with this combination he is having problems. >>>>> >>>>> He may be having hassles because what he tried to update did not agree >>>>> with the now unsupported Kubuntu 10.10. I don't really know, but it is a >>>>> possibility. >>>>> >>>>> To find which is the case he should upgrade from Kubuntu 10.10 - and see >>>>> if his system cannot handle it; in which case he can then decide why >>>>> this is so and ask questions about how to go about solving his problem. >>>>> I say this because I don't believe that Ray can be using such an ancient >>>>> computer which could not handle something like Kubuntu v 11.04 at least. >>>>> If it now handling 10.10 then it can handle 11.04. >>>>> >>>> >>>> this is kind of a philosophical discussion but for starters the Windows >>>> 3.1 can not be compared to *buntu 10.10. It is more than 10 years >>>> between them. However, if I still had a 80286 pc somewhere I would not >>>> throw anything newer than w95 at it. >>>> >>>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3ODQ >>>> states what I am hinting at. For "older" computers (in this case more >>>> than 2 years) you are better off with older versions of the distro. I >>>> have a Dell Inspiron 6400 that runs slick on 10.10 and get various >>>> graphic driver issues with newer distros. I currently own a HP laptop >>>> that can not be used with anything older than 11.04 due to hardware >>>> (again the bloody graphics) issues. >>>> >>>> Security is only one part of the formula. Any linux distro is better >>>> than most version of Windows at whatever age. Updating to later versions >>>> of Open/Libre office and Firefox or Chrome can be done via their >>>> download sites, repositories are not the only way of upgrading >>>> applications. >>>> >>>> So my oldest stays on 10.10 "no matter what" because then it operates >>>> nicely. Newer versions chokes it and I do not have the energy to try out >>>> x number of distros that might be better suited for the hardware. The >>>> newest lappy is now on 12.04 and from how it looks might stay on that as >>>> now "almost everything" works as can be expected from the hardware. >>>> >>>> If I ever buy a Ivy or Sandy or something a newer release will likely be >>>> needed. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Sinclair >>>> >>>> -- >>>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Sinclair, > > No I want to stay with 9.0? > > ray > There should be an apt-get command (or if you use synaptics, I don't remember kpackagekit myself) to "park" a package and not get updates for it. Exactly how to do it I recommend you read man pages for apt-get and use internet search engines as I don't remember. Am now using Muon myself, it has a function for that. From stvrly at gmail.com Sun May 13 07:34:19 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 00:34:19 -0700 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: <4FAF5951.1000206@gmail.com> References: <4FAF5951.1000206@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4239658.2avWEv8TEf@x1> On 2012-05-13 08:48:49 O. Sinclair wrote: > > On 13/05/12 08:29, ray burke wrote: > > > > No I want to stay with 9.0? > > > > There should be an apt-get command (or if you use synaptics, I don't > remember kpackagekit myself) to "park" a package and not get updates for > it. Exactly how to do it I recommend you read man pages for apt-get and > use internet search engines as I don't remember. Am now using Muon > myself, it has a function for that. Two ways. Either of the commands below will accomplish this. $ sudo apt-mark hold PACKAGE-NAME $ sudo echo "PACKAGE-NAME hold" | dpkg --set-selections The first command is simply a wrapper that performs the same thing as the second command. ...Steve From rayburke30 at gmail.com Sun May 13 21:19:25 2012 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 07:19:25 +1000 Subject: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: <4239658.2avWEv8TEf@x1> References: <4FAF5951.1000206@gmail.com> <4239658.2avWEv8TEf@x1> Message-ID: Steve Riley, should that then read $ sudo apt-mark hold firefox 10.02 $ sudo echo firefox 10.02 | dpkg --set-selections to stop the 10.02 from trying to install, or should it read with firefox 9.0 so as to pin the 9.0 eg $ sudo apt-mark hold firefox 9.0 $ sudo echo firefox 9.0 | dpkg --set-selections as I am a little lost? ray On 5/13/12, Steve Riley wrote: > On 2012-05-13 08:48:49 O. Sinclair wrote: >> >> On 13/05/12 08:29, ray burke wrote: >> > >> > No I want to stay with 9.0? >> > >> >> There should be an apt-get command (or if you use synaptics, I don't >> remember kpackagekit myself) to "park" a package and not get updates for >> it. Exactly how to do it I recommend you read man pages for apt-get and >> use internet search engines as I don't remember. Am now using Muon >> myself, it has a function for that. > > > Two ways. Either of the commands below will accomplish this. > > $ sudo apt-mark hold PACKAGE-NAME > $ sudo echo "PACKAGE-NAME hold" | dpkg --set-selections > > The first command is simply a wrapper that performs the same thing as the > second command. > > ...Steve > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From rayburke30 at gmail.com Sun May 13 21:25:42 2012 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 07:25:42 +1000 Subject: Fwd: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: References: <4FAF5951.1000206@gmail.com> <4239658.2avWEv8TEf@x1> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ray burke Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 07:19:25 +1000 Subject: Re: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 To: Kubuntu user technical support Steve Riley, should that then read $ sudo apt-mark hold firefox 10.02 $ sudo echo firefox 10.02 | dpkg --set-selections to stop the 10.02 from trying to install, or should it read with firefox 9.0 so as to pin the 9.0 eg $ sudo apt-mark hold firefox 9.0 $ sudo echo firefox 9.0 | dpkg --set-selections as I am a little lost? ray PS I tried the first command with firefox 9.0.1 and result was- rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ sudo apt-mark hold firefox 9.0.1 [sudo] password for rayburke: Usage: apt-mark [options] {markauto|unmarkauto} packages... apt-mark: error: first argument must be 'markauto', 'unmarkauto' or 'showauto' rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ so what should it be? On 5/13/12, Steve Riley wrote: > On 2012-05-13 08:48:49 O. Sinclair wrote: >> >> On 13/05/12 08:29, ray burke wrote: >> > >> > No I want to stay with 9.0? >> > >> >> There should be an apt-get command (or if you use synaptics, I don't >> remember kpackagekit myself) to "park" a package and not get updates for >> it. Exactly how to do it I recommend you read man pages for apt-get and >> use internet search engines as I don't remember. Am now using Muon >> myself, it has a function for that. > > > Two ways. Either of the commands below will accomplish this. > > $ sudo apt-mark hold PACKAGE-NAME > $ sudo echo "PACKAGE-NAME hold" | dpkg --set-selections > > The first command is simply a wrapper that performs the same thing as the > second command. > > ...Steve > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From stvrly at gmail.com Sun May 13 23:15:20 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 16:15:20 -0700 Subject: Fwd: Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2112989.UGole9HeOG@x1> You asked a separate questions, so I'll answer them separately. On 2012-05-14 07:25:42 ray burke wrote: > > should that then read > $ sudo apt-mark hold firefox 10.02 > $ sudo echo firefox 10.02 | dpkg --set-selections > > to stop the 10.02 from trying to install, or should it read > with firefox 9.0 so as to pin the 9.0 eg > $ sudo apt-mark hold firefox 9.0 > $ sudo echo firefox 9.0 | dpkg --set-selections > > as I am a little lost? My suggestion was to use _either_ of those commands, not both. The commands accept only package names (without version details), and the result is that the current installed version -- whatever it happens to be -- is the one that will be held. Placing a hold on an installed version of any package prevents that version from being upgraded. So, assuming that Firefox version 9.0 is currently installed, then either $ sudo apt-mark hold firefox OR $ sudo echo "firefox hold" | dpkg --set-selections would do the trick. > I tried the first command with firefox 9.0.1 and result was- > rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ sudo apt-mark hold firefox 9.0.1 > [sudo] password for rayburke: > Usage: apt-mark [options] {markauto|unmarkauto} packages... > > apt-mark: error: first argument must be 'markauto', 'unmarkauto' or > 'showauto' rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ > > so what should it be? It turns out, and I didn't realize this until earlier today, that the "hold" functionality of apt-mark is a recent addition. So using this approach won't work for you. Therefore, you'll have to use the second command: $ sudo echo "firefox hold" | dpkg --set-selections Do _not_ indicate a version number here, because remember: the instruction means to hold whatever version is currently installed. _Do_ include the world "hold" inside the quotes. ...Steve From gkourtev at gmail.com Mon May 14 12:33:36 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 15:33:36 +0300 Subject: No video on Skype In-Reply-To: <4FA966EB.5050405@free.fr> References: <53470765.QxCVOFsgkl@gkourtev-laptop> <4FA966EB.5050405@free.fr> Message-ID: <3768534.2IQMSXoeOA@gkourtev-laptop> On Tuesday 08 May 2012 20:33:15 gh wrote: Yes sorry... English is not my language. I send you the link to do it it's better explained. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973096 But reading your question I am wondering if it is the true problem ? It looks like if it didn't find your driver ? Try with cheese application if it works then it might be skype problem. But in any case your question might not sound stupid :) We are all the same : If we know we can solve the problem, but if we don't know ... problem ! good luck Henri Le 08/05/2012 20:12, Georgi Kourtev a écrit : It might sound stupid, but what does it mean 'write it into your icon'? And how should I do it? Thanks for the help. Gk На 08.05.2012 16:59 "gh" написа: Le 08/05/2012 10:37, Georgi Kourtev a écrit : Fresh install of Kubuntu 12.04, 64 bit, KDE 4.8.3 Laptop DELL Inspiron 1525 with built-in camera Skype (beta) 2.2.0.35 In Skype the video is not working. When I go on Skype's video device setting the drop down menu says 'no device found'. Googled a bit but couldn't find anything meaningful. Any shared knowledge is appreciated. gk yes : it's the v4l lib write in your icon : bash -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386- linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype' and it should work... by the way if you have problem with sound look if it's behind or in frond for the micro regards Henri Henri, Thank you! I edited the icon as per your suggestion and now it works fine! Merci beaucoup! gk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rtgkid at gmail.com Mon May 14 22:20:47 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 17:20:47 -0500 Subject: No video on Skype In-Reply-To: <3768534.2IQMSXoeOA@gkourtev-laptop> References: <53470765.QxCVOFsgkl@gkourtev-laptop> <4FA966EB.5050405@free.fr> <3768534.2IQMSXoeOA@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: Georgi, If you can help it, please refrain from sending emails with the lettering vertical. It may not be your problem though. It may very well be my computer. Thanks! On May 14, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > On Tuesday 08 May 2012 20:33:15 gh wrote: > Yes sorry... English is not my language. > I send you the link to do it it's better explained. > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973096 > But reading your question I am wondering if it is the true problem ? > It looks like if it didn't find your driver ? > Try with cheese application if it works then it might be skype problem. > But in any case your question might not sound stupid :) > We are all the same : If we know we can solve the problem, but if we don't know ... problem ! > good luck > Henri > > > > Le 08/05/2012 20:12, Georgi Kourtev a écrit : > > It might sound stupid, but what does it mean 'write it into your icon'? And how should I do it? Thanks for the help. > Gk > > На 08.05.2012 16:59 "gh" написа: > Le 08/05/2012 10:37, Georgi Kourtev a écrit : > > Fresh install of Kubuntu 12.04, 64 bit, KDE 4.8.3 > Laptop DELL Inspiron 1525 with built-in camera > Skype (beta) 2.2.0.35 > > In Skype the video is not working. When I go on Skype's video device setting > the drop down menu says 'no device found'. Googled a bit but couldn't find > anything meaningful. > > Any shared knowledge is appreciated. > gk > > > > > yes : it's the v4l lib > write in your icon : > bash -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386- linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype' > and it should work... > by the way if you have problem with sound look if it's behind or in frond for the micro > regards > Henri > > Henri, > > Thank you! I edited the icon as per your suggestion and now it works fine! Merci beaucoup! > gk > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue May 15 00:02:26 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 20:02:26 -0400 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet Message-ID: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> I finally got 12.04 installed after spending several DAYS on each of beta 1 and beta 2. (mostly ubiquity problems along with aptitude which I have decided is a piece of &*&^%$) But 12.04, once installed has been an ugly experience. Kmail crashes about 12 times a day (about every half hour in use) Flash items tend to remain on the screen... in the middle of other items on the screen. (really disconcerting) Many other problems but I haven't been paying that much attention since kmail is the biggie. Just the fact that it took me two months to get a good install is enough to question the future of kubuntu. I've always done the same things: install the beta and then keep it up to date to get to the final release. Didn't happen this time.... may not try it in the future. Time to look elsewhere. From lahc2007 at gmail.com Tue May 15 00:30:17 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 20:30:17 -0400 Subject: No video on Skype In-Reply-To: References: <53470765.QxCVOFsgkl@gkourtev-laptop> <4FA966EB.5050405@free.fr> <3768534.2IQMSXoeOA@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: Georgi's emails all look normal on my computer... I don't know what could be causing strange things on yours. Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet On May 14, 2012 6:22 PM, "Ryan Gauger" wrote: > Georgi, > > If you can help it, please refrain from sending emails with the lettering > vertical. It may not be your problem though. It may very well be my > computer. Thanks! > > On May 14, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 08 May 2012 20:33:15 gh wrote: > > Yes sorry... English is not my language. > I send you the link to do it it's better explained. > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973096 > But reading your question I am wondering if it is the true problem ? > It looks like if it didn't find your driver ? > Try with cheese application if it works then it might be skype problem. > But in any case your question might not sound stupid :) > We are all the same : If we know we can solve the problem, but if we don't > know ... problem ! > good luck > Henri > > > > Le 08/05/2012 20:12, Georgi Kourtev a écrit : > > It might sound stupid, but what does it mean 'write it into your icon'? > And how should I do it? Thanks for the help. > Gk > > На 08.05.2012 16:59 "gh" написа: > > Le 08/05/2012 10:37, Georgi Kourtev a écrit : > > Fresh install of Kubuntu 12.04, 64 bit, KDE 4.8.3 > Laptop DELL Inspiron 1525 with built-in camera > Skype (beta) 2.2.0.35 > > In Skype the video is not working. When I go on Skype's video device > setting > the drop down menu says 'no device found'. Googled a bit but couldn't find > anything meaningful. > > Any shared knowledge is appreciated. > gk > > > > yes : it's the v4l lib > write in your icon : > bash -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386- linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype' > and it should work... > by the way if you have problem with sound look if it's behind or in frond > for the micro > regards > Henri > > > > Henri, > > > > Thank you! I edited the icon as per your suggestion and now it works fine! > Merci beaucoup! > > gk > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue May 15 00:44:20 2012 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 20:44:20 -0400 Subject: No video on Skype In-Reply-To: References: <53470765.QxCVOFsgkl@gkourtev-laptop> <3768534.2IQMSXoeOA@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <201205142044.20178.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Monday, May 14, 2012 08:43:00 PM Ryan Gauger did opine: > Georgi, > > If you can help it, please refrain from sending emails with the > lettering vertical. It may not be your problem though. It may very well > be my computer. Thanks! Something might be wrong with your 'ipod mailer' then, Georgi's message looks plumb normal to kmail here. > On May 14, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > On Tuesday 08 May 2012 20:33:15 gh wrote: > > Yes sorry... English is not my language. > > I send you the link to do it it's better explained. > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973096 > > But reading your question I am wondering if it is the true problem ? > > It looks like if it didn't find your driver ? > > Try with cheese application if it works then it might be skype > > problem. But in any case your question might not sound stupid :) > > We are all the same : If we know we can solve the problem, but if we > > don't know ... problem ! good luck > > Henri > > > > > > > > Le 08/05/2012 20:12, Georgi Kourtev a أ©crit : > > > > It might sound stupid, but what does it mean 'write it into your > > icon'? And how should I do it? Thanks for the help. Gk > > > > ذ‌ذ° 08.05.2012 16:59 "gh" ذ½ذ°ذ؟ذ¸رپذ°: > > Le 08/05/2012 10:37, Georgi Kourtev a أ©crit : > > > > Fresh install of Kubuntu 12.04, 64 bit, KDE 4.8.3 > > Laptop DELL Inspiron 1525 with built-in camera > > Skype (beta) 2.2.0.35 > > > > In Skype the video is not working. When I go on Skype's video device > > setting the drop down menu says 'no device found'. Googled a bit but > > couldn't find anything meaningful. > > > > Any shared knowledge is appreciated. > > gk > > > > > > > > > > yes : it's the v4l lib > > write in your icon : > > bash -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386- linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so > > skype' and it should work... > > by the way if you have problem with sound look if it's behind or in > > frond for the micro regards > > Henri > > > > Henri, > > > > Thank you! I edited the icon as per your suggestion and now it works > > fine! Merci beaucoup! gk Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: If opportunity came disguised as temptation, one knock would be enough. From blchupin at iinet.net.au Tue May 15 00:48:34 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 10:48:34 +1000 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> Message-ID: <4FB1A7E2.2040807@iinet.net.au> On 15/05/12 10:02, Bruce Marshall wrote: > I finally got 12.04 installed after spending several DAYS on each of beta 1 > and beta 2. (mostly ubiquity problems along with aptitude which I have > decided is a piece of&*&^%$) > > But 12.04, once installed has been an ugly experience. > > Kmail crashes about 12 times a day (about every half hour in use) "If it hurts, why do it?" :-) . Kmail has had a problem for quite some time now from what I have been reading. Why not switch to Thunderbird? > Flash items tend to remain on the screen... in the middle of other items on > the screen. (really disconcerting) Ah, you too! The latest Flash, right? The way I got rid of that is to deselect Use Hardware Acceleration in its settings. Also gets rid of the blue colour in videos. > Many other problems but I haven't been paying that much attention since kmail > is the biggie. > > Just the fact that it took me two months to get a good install is enough to > question the future of kubuntu. I've always done the same things: install > the beta and then keep it up to date to get to the final release. Didn't > happen this time.... may not try it in the future. > > Time to look elsewhere. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue May 15 01:25:47 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 21:25:47 -0400 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB1ADB1.6070708@pacific.net.au> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <4FB1ADB1.6070708@pacific.net.au> Message-ID: <3267954.9Sqp3JpOOR@linux1> On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:13:21 AM Richard Terry wrote: > > Just the fact that it took me two months to get a good install is enough > > to question the future of kubuntu. I've always done the same > > things: install the beta and then keep it up to date to get to the final > > release. Didn't happen this time.... may not try it in the future. > > > > Time to look elsewhere. > > > > > > Sorry you've had that experience. > > I stayed away from kmail, have installed 12 on several machines, as have > my mates and all smooth sailing. > > Personally, most impressed. > > Converted my older installation on my laptop (9) from kmail to > thunderbird and find though it seems to lack some of the things I use in > kmail (drag n drop into the composer) that overall its is a pleasant > experience. > > Regards > > Richard Well I'm not usually one to pitch a B**ch but I have been using Kubuntu since 6.04 and usually have the clear sailing experience, but this one had me thinking that maybe I never would get it installed. But I guess I have to admit that the problems have been creeping in for the last two releases. I used to run XFCE with kmail just to keep away from the KDE growth problems but 11.10 forced me to go back to KDE. Not necessarily happy with that. And all the akonadi, virtuso, strigi, nepomuk crap makes me wonder when it is all going to come crashing down!! Oh well, that's the good thing about linux... there are always choices..... (no newbie here: 50 years of computing and counting so this is hopefully coming from an experienced position) Thanks for your comments, Rich From rtgkid at gmail.com Tue May 15 01:32:42 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 20:32:42 -0500 Subject: No video on Skype In-Reply-To: References: <53470765.QxCVOFsgkl@gkourtev-laptop> <4FA966EB.5050405@free.fr> <3768534.2IQMSXoeOA@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: It's my computer then. Very strange, because no other emails look like the way I saw them. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: > Georgi's emails all look normal on my computer... I don't know what could > be causing strange things on yours. > > Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet > On May 14, 2012 6:22 PM, "Ryan Gauger" wrote: > >> Georgi, >> >> If you can help it, please refrain from sending emails with the lettering >> vertical. It may not be your problem though. It may very well be my >> computer. Thanks! >> >> On May 14, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Georgi Kourtev wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday 08 May 2012 20:33:15 gh wrote: >> >> Yes sorry... English is not my language. >> I send you the link to do it it's better explained. >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973096 >> But reading your question I am wondering if it is the true problem ? >> It looks like if it didn't find your driver ? >> Try with cheese application if it works then it might be skype problem. >> But in any case your question might not sound stupid :) >> We are all the same : If we know we can solve the problem, but if we >> don't know ... problem ! >> good luck >> Henri >> >> >> >> Le 08/05/2012 20:12, Georgi Kourtev a écrit : >> >> It might sound stupid, but what does it mean 'write it into your icon'? >> And how should I do it? Thanks for the help. >> Gk >> >> На 08.05.2012 16:59 "gh" написа: >> >> Le 08/05/2012 10:37, Georgi Kourtev a écrit : >> >> Fresh install of Kubuntu 12.04, 64 bit, KDE 4.8.3 >> Laptop DELL Inspiron 1525 with built-in camera >> Skype (beta) 2.2.0.35 >> >> In Skype the video is not working. When I go on Skype's video device >> setting >> the drop down menu says 'no device found'. Googled a bit but couldn't find >> anything meaningful. >> >> Any shared knowledge is appreciated. >> gk >> >> >> >> yes : it's the v4l lib >> write in your icon : >> bash -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386- linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype' >> and it should work... >> by the way if you have problem with sound look if it's behind or in frond >> for the micro >> regards >> Henri >> >> >> >> Henri, >> >> >> >> Thank you! I edited the icon as per your suggestion and now it works >> fine! Merci beaucoup! >> >> gk >> >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- ---Ryan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From kassube at gmx.net Tue May 15 04:10:59 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 06:10:59 +0200 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB1A7E2.2040807@iinet.net.au> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <4FB1A7E2.2040807@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> Basil Chupin wrote: > On 15/05/12 10:02, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > I finally got 12.04 installed after spending several DAYS on each > > of beta 1 and beta 2. (mostly ubiquity problems along with > > aptitude which I have decided is a piece of&*&^%$) > > > > But 12.04, once installed has been an ugly experience. > > > > Kmail crashes about 12 times a day (about every half hour in use) > > "If it hurts, why do it?" :-) . > > Kmail has had a problem for quite some time now from what I have been > reading. Why not switch to Thunderbird? Because Thunderbird hurts even more (IMHO). I had a brief look at Thunderbird recently, and to me it looks worse than it did the last time I tried it (some years ago). Unfortunately there is no way to keep the good old kmail instead of the newfangled kmail2, at least until kmail2 is usable. :( Therefore I suppose I'll not upgrade my desktop and stay with 10.04 for now. OTOH, I can't complain about the rest of 12.04 - no real problems so far on the other machines where I have it installed already. Nils From blchupin at iinet.net.au Tue May 15 05:14:03 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 15:14:03 +1000 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <4FB1A7E2.2040807@iinet.net.au> <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4FB1E61B.40601@iinet.net.au> On 15/05/12 14:10, Nils Kassube wrote: > Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 15/05/12 10:02, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>> I finally got 12.04 installed after spending several DAYS on each >>> of beta 1 and beta 2. (mostly ubiquity problems along with >>> aptitude which I have decided is a piece of&*&^%$) >>> >>> But 12.04, once installed has been an ugly experience. >>> >>> Kmail crashes about 12 times a day (about every half hour in use) >> "If it hurts, why do it?" :-) . >> >> Kmail has had a problem for quite some time now from what I have been >> reading. Why not switch to Thunderbird? > Because Thunderbird hurts even more (IMHO). I had a brief look at > Thunderbird recently, and to me it looks worse than it did the last time > I tried it (some years ago). Which, of course, requires two questions to be asked: 1. Which version of Thunderbird; and 2. Why did it "[look] worse than it did the last time" during your cursory/fleeting look at it? [..........] BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From kassube at gmx.net Tue May 15 05:31:24 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 07:31:24 +0200 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB1E61B.40601@iinet.net.au> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> <4FB1E61B.40601@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <201205150731.24413.kassube@gmx.net> Basil Chupin wrote: > On 15/05/12 14:10, Nils Kassube wrote: > > Basil Chupin wrote: > >> On 15/05/12 10:02, Bruce Marshall wrote: > >>> I finally got 12.04 installed after spending several DAYS on each > >>> of beta 1 and beta 2. (mostly ubiquity problems along with > >>> aptitude which I have decided is a piece of&*&^%$) > >>> > >>> But 12.04, once installed has been an ugly experience. > >>> > >>> Kmail crashes about 12 times a day (about every half hour in use) > >> > >> "If it hurts, why do it?" :-) . > >> > >> Kmail has had a problem for quite some time now from what I have > >> been reading. Why not switch to Thunderbird? > > > > Because Thunderbird hurts even more (IMHO). I had a brief look at > > Thunderbird recently, and to me it looks worse than it did the last > > time I tried it (some years ago). > > Which, of course, requires two questions to be asked: > > 1. Which version of Thunderbird; and The version coming with 12.04. > 2. Why did it "[look] worse than it did the last time" during your > cursory/fleeting look at it? I don't remember now, but I'll try it again and then I'll answer that question. Nils From blchupin at iinet.net.au Tue May 15 05:42:40 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 15:42:40 +1000 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <201205150731.24413.kassube@gmx.net> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> <4FB1E61B.40601@iinet.net.au> <201205150731.24413.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4FB1ECD0.90906@iinet.net.au> On 15/05/12 15:31, Nils Kassube wrote: > Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 15/05/12 14:10, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> Basil Chupin wrote: >>>> On 15/05/12 10:02, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>>>> I finally got 12.04 installed after spending several DAYS on each >>>>> of beta 1 and beta 2. (mostly ubiquity problems along with >>>>> aptitude which I have decided is a piece of&*&^%$) >>>>> >>>>> But 12.04, once installed has been an ugly experience. >>>>> >>>>> Kmail crashes about 12 times a day (about every half hour in use) >>>> "If it hurts, why do it?" :-) . >>>> >>>> Kmail has had a problem for quite some time now from what I have >>>> been reading. Why not switch to Thunderbird? >>> Because Thunderbird hurts even more (IMHO). I had a brief look at >>> Thunderbird recently, and to me it looks worse than it did the last >>> time I tried it (some years ago). >> Which, of course, requires two questions to be asked: >> >> 1. Which version of Thunderbird; and > The version coming with 12.04. Which is....? > 2. Why did it "[look] worse than it did the last time" during your > cursory/fleeting look at it? > I don't remember now, but I'll try it again and then I'll answer that > question. That would be great. Not only would it give me some idea of what may have grieved you but others as well who may be thinking of switching to something which actually works. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Tue May 15 05:52:05 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 15:52:05 +1000 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB1ECD0.90906@iinet.net.au> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150731.24413.kassube@gmx.net> <4FB1ECD0.90906@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <25716513.lZypWS8LqV@lindsay-kubuntu-12> On Tue, 15 May 2012 03:42:40 PM Basil Chupin wrote: > That would be great. Not only would it give me some idea of what may > have grieved you but others as well who may be thinking of switching to > something which actually works. Thunderbird works just fine with GMail and a Commerical IMAP server (MDaemon) for me on 12.04 and that's with very large (10,000+) mailboxes. The Thunderbird version is 12.01 I also have KMail2 working pretty well with same. Caveats: - All my filters are server side. Nothing client side at all - as it should be with IMAP. - I do my folder management though the GMail interface rather than KMail or Thunderbird. - I don't use the kmail email search at all. For me, GMail contacts and calendar now work better through KMail2 than they do through Thunderbird/Lightening. -- Lindsay -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From girardhenri at free.fr Tue May 15 05:57:26 2012 From: girardhenri at free.fr (girardhenri) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 07:57:26 +0200 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB1ECD0.90906@iinet.net.au> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> <4FB1E61B.40601@iinet.net.au> <201205150731.24413.kassube@gmx.net> <4FB1ECD0.90906@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FB1F046.1010301@free.fr> Le 15/05/2012 07:42, Basil Chupin a écrit : > On 15/05/12 15:31, Nils Kassube wrote: >> Basil Chupin wrote: >>> On 15/05/12 14:10, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>> Basil Chupin wrote: >>>>> On 15/05/12 10:02, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>>>>> I finally got 12.04 installed after spending several DAYS on each >>>>>> of beta 1 and beta 2. (mostly ubiquity problems along with >>>>>> aptitude which I have decided is a piece of&*&^%$) >>>>>> >>>>>> But 12.04, once installed has been an ugly experience. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kmail crashes about 12 times a day (about every half hour in use) >>>>> "If it hurts, why do it?" :-) . >>>>> >>>>> Kmail has had a problem for quite some time now from what I have >>>>> been reading. Why not switch to Thunderbird? >>>> Because Thunderbird hurts even more (IMHO). I had a brief look at >>>> Thunderbird recently, and to me it looks worse than it did the last >>>> time I tried it (some years ago). >>> Which, of course, requires two questions to be asked: >>> >>> 1. Which version of Thunderbird; and >> The version coming with 12.04. > > Which is....? > > >> 2. Why did it "[look] worse than it did the last time" during your >> cursory/fleeting look at it? >> I don't remember now, but I'll try it again and then I'll answer that >> question. > > That would be great. Not only would it give me some idea of what may > have grieved you but others as well who may be thinking of switching > to something which actually works. > > BC > I do use kubuntu only for system settings (qtcurve theme with fakeosx gnome3, as I found gnome3 themes not very nice, mainly too dark), but 12.04 was better on first beta than final in my opinion, because I often have messages that utuntu 12.04 has crashed or an application has crashed... It sounds buggy ! synaptic doesn't work any more after a while (i guess after updating)... Well as a final it doesn't seems stable as usually it is with other versions... I already reinstalled twice and always the same. I use firefox and thunderbird as mail client because it does manage my mail boxes perfectly. regards, Henri From blchupin at iinet.net.au Tue May 15 06:20:51 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 16:20:51 +1000 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <25716513.lZypWS8LqV@lindsay-kubuntu-12> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150731.24413.kassube@gmx.net> <4FB1ECD0.90906@iinet.net.au> <25716513.lZypWS8LqV@lindsay-kubuntu-12> Message-ID: <4FB1F5C3.5040203@iinet.net.au> On 15/05/12 15:52, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Tue, 15 May 2012 03:42:40 PM Basil Chupin wrote: >> That would be great. Not only would it give me some idea of what may >> have grieved you but others as well who may be thinking of switching to >> something which actually works. > Thunderbird works just fine with GMail and a Commerical IMAP server (MDaemon) > for me on 12.04 and that's with very large (10,000+) mailboxes. The > Thunderbird version is 12.01 > > > I also have KMail2 working pretty well with same. > > Caveats: > - All my filters are server side. Nothing client side at all - as it should be > with IMAP. > > - I do my folder management though the GMail interface rather than KMail or > Thunderbird. > > - I don't use the kmail email search at all. > > > For me, GMail contacts and calendar now work better through KMail2 than they > do through Thunderbird/Lightening. Good to hear, but you weren't worried about the change in Google's privacy rules? To quote from a post I received at the time: /quote HOW TO: DELETE YOUR GOOGLE HISTORY Google has been warning us for weeks. On March 1st, all of their associated services (YouTube, Gmail, Calendar) will start sharing information and treating you as a single user. If you want Google to hold a little less information about you and where you have visited online, we suggest that you click HERE. /unquote BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From blchupin at iinet.net.au Tue May 15 06:40:01 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 16:40:01 +1000 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> Message-ID: <4FB1FA41.3000305@iinet.net.au> On 15/05/12 10:02, Bruce Marshall wrote: > I finally got 12.04 installed after spending several DAYS on each of beta 1 > and beta 2. (mostly ubiquity problems along with aptitude which I have > decided is a piece of&*&^%$) > > But 12.04, once installed has been an ugly experience. > > Kmail crashes about 12 times a day (about every half hour in use) A follow-up to what I posted earlier. I just heard from a person who is running openSUSE v12.2 Milestone #4 (final release in a couple of months) that "..kmail works great." So, wait for it....a new working version is coming "real soon now" :-) . [..........] BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From gldvorak at gmail.com Tue May 15 07:38:43 2012 From: gldvorak at gmail.com (George Dvorak) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 00:38:43 -0700 Subject: No video on Skype In-Reply-To: <1599320.kOvMN2Vicr@lindsay-kubuntu-12> References: <53470765.QxCVOFsgkl@gkourtev-laptop> <1599320.kOvMN2Vicr@lindsay-kubuntu-12> Message-ID: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Lindsay Mathieson < lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 14 May 2012 08:32:42 PM Ryan Gauger wrote: > > It's my computer then. Very strange, because no other emails look like > the > > way I saw them. > > Very odd. I took a look at his message source - no odd encodings or > charsets > that I could see. > > -- > Lindsay > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Georgi's message comes up very narrow on mine -- GMail -- Kubuntu 11.10. The others are all normal. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phulshof at xs4all.nl Tue May 15 07:43:12 2012 From: phulshof at xs4all.nl (Pieter Hulshoff) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 09:43:12 +0200 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB1FA41.3000305@iinet.net.au> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <4FB1FA41.3000305@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <3044010.jdOhpTFNPZ@spaceballsml> I must admit that I too have been having some problems since 11.10: programs simply stop responding for 10-30 seconds 12.04 has reduced that behaviour a little, but applications like kmail and firefox crash quite regularly. All in all, 12.04 seems to be a small improvement, but I do hope the stability improves rapidly. Kind regards, Pieter Hulshoff From thomas at tanghus.net Tue May 15 08:01:08 2012 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Tanghus) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 10:01:08 +0200 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <3044010.jdOhpTFNPZ@spaceballsml> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <4FB1FA41.3000305@iinet.net.au> <3044010.jdOhpTFNPZ@spaceballsml> Message-ID: <3604963.oURe7VyjOt@tanghus> On Tuesday 15 May 2012 09:43 Pieter Hulshoff wrote: > I must admit that I too have been having some problems since 11.10: programs > simply stop responding for 10-30 seconds > 12.04 has reduced that behaviour a little, but applications like kmail and > firefox crash quite regularly. All in all, 12.04 seems to be a small > improvement, but I do hope the stability improves rapidly. All in all KMail works good for me with KDE SC 4.8.3 and KMail 4.8.2. This is on Kubuntu 11.10 - don't upgrade until the first dot release ;-) - but I'm guessing it is the same versions on 12.04? KMail has 3 grievances for me. After priority: 1) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286307 2) The Akonadi IMAP resource often has to be restarted after a disconnect, and every 2-4 days I have to restart the Akonadi server. 3) The long-winded autocomplete-only-works-for-recent addresses bug. It seems like that won't be fixed until 4.9... Besides that I have a smooth running PIM suite and I would never choose another solution. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus From gkourtev at gmail.com Tue May 15 08:10:40 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 11:10:40 +0300 Subject: Firefox and magnet Message-ID: <2067417.vnq3iooLB1@gkourtev-laptop> I was trying to download a file through a magnet link. It works on my other machine but on a new installation of 12.04 (4.8.3) I have the following pop-up in Firefox: "Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (magnet) isn't associated with any program." Didn't find anything meaningful while googling. Any ideas? I am using KTorroent as a client. Thanks, gk From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue May 15 08:20:49 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 10:20:49 +0200 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> Message-ID: <4FB211E1.50709@gmail.com> On 15/05/12 02:02, Bruce Marshall wrote: > I finally got 12.04 installed after spending several DAYS on each of beta 1 > and beta 2. (mostly ubiquity problems along with aptitude which I have > decided is a piece of&*&^%$) > > But 12.04, once installed has been an ugly experience. > > Kmail crashes about 12 times a day (about every half hour in use) > > Flash items tend to remain on the screen... in the middle of other items on > the screen. (really disconcerting) > > Many other problems but I haven't been paying that much attention since kmail > is the biggie. > > Just the fact that it took me two months to get a good install is enough to > question the future of kubuntu. I've always done the same things: install > the beta and then keep it up to date to get to the final release. Didn't > happen this time.... may not try it in the future. > I differ with you - for once I did an upgrade instead of "clean install + reinstall of x applications" and almost everything works better than my 11.10 w KDE 4.7.4 install did. For my KMail is much more stable though I hate not having "autocompletion of email address" and distribution lists working. Have saved my lists as templates to get around that one. Some filters behave a bit weird, the spam filter refuses to set mails as read after moving them to spam folder (my addition to the standard filter) and I get notified of "new mail" even when it is my own sent mails that are the "new" ones. And some odd behaviour in webkit (Rekonq) but those will be sorted. Until then I use Firefox and have no problems with that. Note: I only use pop mail accounts, no Imap. And I weed out old email regularly so do not have "massive" mail folders. Kindly, Sinclair From larssonjonas1 at gmail.com Tue May 15 09:02:01 2012 From: larssonjonas1 at gmail.com (jonas larsson) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 11:02:01 +0200 Subject: Firefox and magnet In-Reply-To: <2067417.vnq3iooLB1@gkourtev-laptop> References: <2067417.vnq3iooLB1@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: I managed to fix this. I think the first answer in second post is correct. On mobile now so cant check http://askubuntu.com/questions/53102/how-to-open-magnet-links-from-firefox-with-deluge Hth Jonas Den 15 maj 2012 10:12 skrev "Georgi Kourtev" : > I was trying to download a file through a magnet link. It works on my > other > machine but on a new installation of 12.04 (4.8.3) I have the following > pop-up > in Firefox: > > "Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol > (magnet) isn't associated with any program." > > Didn't find anything meaningful while googling. Any ideas? I am using > KTorroent as a client. > > Thanks, > gk > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue May 15 10:36:09 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 06:36:09 -0400 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB1F046.1010301@free.fr> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <4FB1ECD0.90906@iinet.net.au> <4FB1F046.1010301@free.fr> Message-ID: <1858777.lYmVqZTKnt@linux1> On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 07:57:26 AM girardhenri wrote: > I do use kubuntu only for system settings (qtcurve theme with fakeosx > gnome3, as I found gnome3 themes not very nice, mainly too dark), but > 12.04 was better on first beta than final in my opinion, because I often > have messages that utuntu 12.04 has crashed or an application has > crashed... It sounds buggy ! synaptic doesn't work any more after a > while (i guess after updating)... Well as a final it doesn't seems > stable as usually it is with other versions... I already reinstalled > twice and always the same. > I use firefox and thunderbird as mail client because it does manage my > mail boxes perfectly. > regards, > Henri Synaptic seems to work fine for me and in fact got me out of the 'hole' I was in trying to install 12.04. When I was using aptitude to do installing, it would sometimes want to delete about 500 packages in order to install one. Twice it uninstalled my kernel and I had to do a rescue. I've given up on aptitude and now use synaptic for everything. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue May 15 10:41:27 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 06:41:27 -0400 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB211E1.50709@gmail.com> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <4FB211E1.50709@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2239053.71lkle77n8@linux1> On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:20:49 AM O. Sinclair wrote: > For my KMail is much more stable though I hate not having > "autocompletion of email address" and distribution lists working. Have > saved my lists as templates to get around that one. > Kmail2 was pretty stable when I first installed 12.04 but since then there may have been an update that makes it crash a lot. > Some filters behave a bit weird, the spam filter refuses to set mails as > read after moving them to spam folder (my addition to the standard > filter) and I get notified of "new mail" even when it is my own sent > mails that are the "new" ones. > Weird isn't the word for it. Sometimes when kmail2 starts up, the filters will be working fine but most time they don't work at all. It varies back and forth from working to not working. That's strange behavior! > And some odd behaviour in webkit (Rekonq) but those will be sorted. > Until then I use Firefox and have no problems with that. > > Note: I only use pop mail accounts, no Imap. And I weed out old email > regularly so do not have "massive" mail folders. Same here.... From girardhenri at free.fr Tue May 15 15:07:11 2012 From: girardhenri at free.fr (girardhenri) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 17:07:11 +0200 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <1858777.lYmVqZTKnt@linux1> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <4FB1ECD0.90906@iinet.net.au> <4FB1F046.1010301@free.fr> <1858777.lYmVqZTKnt@linux1> Message-ID: <4FB2711F.2050803@free.fr> Le 15/05/2012 12:36, Bruce Marshall a écrit : > On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 07:57:26 AM girardhenri wrote: >> I do use kubuntu only for system settings (qtcurve theme with fakeosx >> gnome3, as I found gnome3 themes not very nice, mainly too dark), but >> 12.04 was better on first beta than final in my opinion, because I often >> have messages that utuntu 12.04 has crashed or an application has >> crashed... It sounds buggy ! synaptic doesn't work any more after a >> while (i guess after updating)... Well as a final it doesn't seems >> stable as usually it is with other versions... I already reinstalled >> twice and always the same. >> I use firefox and thunderbird as mail client because it does manage my >> mail boxes perfectly. >> regards, >> Henri > Synaptic seems to work fine for me and in fact got me out of the 'hole' I was > in trying to install 12.04. > > When I was using aptitude to do installing, it would sometimes want to delete > about 500 packages in order to install one. Twice it uninstalled my kernel > and I had to do a rescue. I've given up on aptitude and now use synaptic for > everything. > > > I found out the problem : In synaptic icon command they wrote synaptic-pkgexec, so I deleted it and i wrote gksudo synaptic and everything works now ! I have problem with sudo too I don't know why sometimes it's deleted by ubuntu ? I must chmod 755 to get it back... I didn't have this problems with former versions. Aptitude is very dangerous ! Sometimes it took me away kde... and gnome3 ? I don't know why. Pity because it is an excellent tool. But I fear it's not good to use apt and aptitude ? From lahc2007 at gmail.com Tue May 15 16:52:31 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 12:52:31 -0400 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet - NOT! Message-ID: Is 12.04 the worst? Hardly! I had a few problems installing on my 6 year old Gateway laptop, and one older desktop's video card just wasn't supported, but I got past this with a little help from my kind friends here and on other forums. I know none of my antiques would run the current Microsoft offering at all. All my computers are 4 to 6 years old and it's sort of a hobby to keep them going with the latest Kubuntu. Until my duct tape and bailing wire runs out, anyway. Once installed there have been no serious issues and I'm generally pleased. There are few changes and no surprises from 11.10. Just same old, same old. Mind you I don't use pop mail or Kmail. All of my mail is IMAP gmail, which I set up to poll my hotmail and aim accounts. It is accessible everywhere, which is great, and they store almost a GB of my archived mail, free. They even do backups, which I neglect because, frankly, nothing else I have is of much importance to me, except my photos, which Eye-Fi stores for a modest fee. Yahoo mail is just for accessing groups and forums like this one. It's the 5 year support that I'm most enthused about. I need something that works, and 12.04 fills the bill. Thank you Kubuntu developers! Good job, well done Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet On May 15, 2012 11:10 AM, "girardhenri" wrote: > Le 15/05/2012 12:36, Bruce Marshall a écrit : > >> On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 07:57:26 AM girardhenri wrote: >> >>> I do use kubuntu only for system settings (qtcurve theme with fakeosx >>> gnome3, as I found gnome3 themes not very nice, mainly too dark), but >>> 12.04 was better on first beta than final in my opinion, because I often >>> have messages that utuntu 12.04 has crashed or an application has >>> crashed... It sounds buggy ! synaptic doesn't work any more after a >>> while (i guess after updating)... Well as a final it doesn't seems >>> stable as usually it is with other versions... I already reinstalled >>> twice and always the same. >>> I use firefox and thunderbird as mail client because it does manage my >>> mail boxes perfectly. >>> regards, >>> Henri >>> >> Synaptic seems to work fine for me and in fact got me out of the 'hole' I >> was >> in trying to install 12.04. >> >> When I was using aptitude to do installing, it would sometimes want to >> delete >> about 500 packages in order to install one. Twice it uninstalled my >> kernel >> and I had to do a rescue. I've given up on aptitude and now use synaptic >> for >> everything. >> >> >> >> I found out the problem : In synaptic icon command they wrote > synaptic-pkgexec, so I deleted it and i wrote gksudo synaptic and > everything works now ! > I have problem with sudo too I don't know why sometimes it's deleted by > ubuntu ? > I must chmod 755 to get it back... > I didn't have this problems with former versions. > Aptitude is very dangerous ! Sometimes it took me away kde... and gnome3 ? > I don't know why. Pity because it is an excellent tool. > But I fear it's not good to use apt and aptitude ? > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Tue May 15 20:08:34 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 22:08:34 +0200 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB1ECD0.90906@iinet.net.au> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150731.24413.kassube@gmx.net> <4FB1ECD0.90906@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <201205152208.34353.kassube@gmx.net> Basil Chupin wrote: > On 15/05/12 15:31, Nils Kassube wrote: > > Basil Chupin wrote: > >> On 15/05/12 14:10, Nils Kassube wrote: > >>> Because Thunderbird hurts even more (IMHO). I had a brief look at > >>> Thunderbird recently, and to me it looks worse than it did the > >>> last time I tried it (some years ago). > >> > >> Which, of course, requires two questions to be asked: > >> > >> 1. Which version of Thunderbird; and > > > > The version coming with 12.04. > > Which is....? Well, you are the TB expert here :) and therefore you should know that Kubuntu installs the current version. But I checked it, it is 12.0.1. > > 2. Why did it "[look] worse than it did the last time" during your > > cursory/fleeting look at it? > > I don't remember now, but I'll try it again and then I'll answer > > that question. > > That would be great. Not only would it give me some idea of what may > have grieved you but others as well who may be thinking of switching > to something which actually works. 1. The configuration page offers a start page URL? I thought TB is an email clinet, not a browser. 2. The configuration page offers add-ons - again it looks too much like a browser to me. One of the add-ons is adblock plus - what does that have to do with email? 3. There is an option to accept cookies? Again, what does that have to do with an email client? Granted, those three points are not too important but at least it looks unappealing to me. 4. I want to import mails from kmail. Well, I know that TB doesn't understand maildir, so I copied some mails to a new mbox folder before I started TB. But how can I import those mails? While there is an import option, it doesn't seem to do anything - at least I couldn't convince it to give me a file dialog to search for the mbox file with the mails I have saved. Of course it isn't useful to continue testing at this point. I have a lot of saved mails that I don't want to throw away. So obviously TB is not usable for me. Nils From rtgkid at gmail.com Tue May 15 23:12:32 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 18:12:32 -0500 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <4FB1A7E2.2040807@iinet.net.au> <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <3D08C7BB-9640-4DC9-83E6-49D47BA56200@gmail.com> Could you please explain why Thunderbird hurts? I (or somebody else on this ml) may be able to help you out. For me, it works better than Kmail because Thunderbird automatically sets up your email account, but I don't think Kmail does. Thanks! In Christ, Ryan On May 14, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 15/05/12 10:02, Bruce Marshall wrote: >>> I finally got 12.04 installed after spending several DAYS on each >>> of beta 1 and beta 2. (mostly ubiquity problems along with >>> aptitude which I have decided is a piece of&*&^%$) >>> >>> But 12.04, once installed has been an ugly experience. >>> >>> Kmail crashes about 12 times a day (about every half hour in use) >> >> "If it hurts, why do it?" :-) . >> >> Kmail has had a problem for quite some time now from what I have been >> reading. Why not switch to Thunderbird? > > Because Thunderbird hurts even more (IMHO). I had a brief look at > Thunderbird recently, and to me it looks worse than it did the last time > I tried it (some years ago). Unfortunately there is no way to keep the > good old kmail instead of the newfangled kmail2, at least until kmail2 > is usable. :( Therefore I suppose I'll not upgrade my desktop and stay > with 10.04 for now. > > OTOH, I can't complain about the rest of 12.04 - no real problems so far > on the other machines where I have it installed already. > > > Nils > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From mmtsales at gmail.com Wed May 16 01:45:44 2012 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 22:45:44 -0300 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <3D08C7BB-9640-4DC9-83E6-49D47BA56200@gmail.com> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> <3D08C7BB-9640-4DC9-83E6-49D47BA56200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201205152245.44988.mmtsales@gmail.com> Em terça-feira 15 maio 2012, Ryan Gauger escreveu: > Could you please explain why Thunderbird hurts? I (or somebody else > on this ml) may be able to help you out. For me, it works better > than Kmail because Thunderbird automatically sets up your email > account, but I don't think Kmail does. Thanks! > The main issue that prevents me from migrating to Thunderbird is that its local storage is mbox and this format is very prone to corruption and other problems when you have too many e-mails stored or when you receive and delete many e-mails very often. I do both and I don't like the idea of having all my e-mail history in the hands of some cloud provider. I want a local copy of my e-mail archive. People who doesn't mind that can use IMAP and in this case there is no storage problem. KMail uses mdir (one file per message) and I've never lost an e-mail with it. This format also makes it easier to access any message without running KMail if you need to (searching a backup, for example), not mentioning that several processes can easily access the mail storage at the same time without any problem at all. This is the main problem, but there are many other features of KMail that do not exist in Thunderbird. KMail has quick shortcuts for anything you can imagine and you can customize them if you like. For example, I subscribe to many distribution lists and I can't possibly read all the e-mail I get from all of them, so I use the "delete thread" shortcut very often. If a thread does not interest me, I just CTRL+DEL it at once. Thunderbird has no shortcut for this nor it allows me to create one. It's painful to open the menu and click the delete thread command for every thread I want to delete, it's too time consuming. There are many, many other cases in which the lack of shortcuts or the impossibility to customize them get in the way. In Thunderbird, you must have a trash folder for each of your mailboxes. I have eight of them and surely do not want to remember which trash do I need to search if I want do recover a deleted message. I KMail you can have individual trashes if you like, but you can setup only one trash if you want. In KMail, you can configure a folder to store messages of a given distribution list. You filter the messages from this list to that folder and KMail scans the headers of the messages and automatically detects the commands supported by the list server. So it adds these commands to the right-click menu of the folder. When you right click the folder, you get commands like "New message to distribution list", "cancel subscription", and so on. You can also define templates and the identity that should be used by default when you start a new message when any given folder is selected. You can define which dictionary should be used by default when you select a given identity as the sender for a message. For me, who write e-mails in three different languages, it's a nice feature. You can configure a list of words that you normally use in the body of an e-mail when you send attachments (like attached, attachment, etc.), so KMail reminds you to attach the file if you use one of these words and click send without attaching any file. I can go on and on for a long time listing a huge number of features that exist in KMail but not in Thunderbird, but you get the idea. They are mostly simple features and any one of them isn't a big deal by itself, but when you use a lot of them and remember you will lose them all if you migrate, then you will think twice before you do the change. I was tempted to migrate to other e-mail client many times since when the KMail version from KDE 3.5.x was deprecated, because KMail is really buggy in its current stage. However, nevertheless I think it is still more advantageous to me to keep using it buggy as it is than to migrate for other e-mail client. []'s Marcelo From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 16 04:51:54 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 06:51:54 +0200 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <3D08C7BB-9640-4DC9-83E6-49D47BA56200@gmail.com> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> <3D08C7BB-9640-4DC9-83E6-49D47BA56200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201205160651.54679.kassube@gmx.net> Ryan Gauger wrote: > Could you please explain why Thunderbird hurts? See my other mail from yesterday evening. > I (or somebody else > on this ml) may be able to help you out. Thanks, but I don't think that is necessary. For now I decided that I don't want TB but wait for a working Kmail2. > For me, it works better > than Kmail because Thunderbird automatically sets up your email > account, but I don't think Kmail does. Thanks! The automatic account setup is not interesting for me - I know how to do it manually. Granted, it saves a few minutes looking up server settings, but that is all easily available from my kmail settings. Importing all my old mail is far more important for me. > On May 14, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: It would be nice, if you would refrain from top posting. Thank you. Nils From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed May 16 05:27:05 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 15:27:05 +1000 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <201205152208.34353.kassube@gmx.net> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150731.24413.kassube@gmx.net> <4FB1ECD0.90906@iinet.net.au> <201205152208.34353.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4FB33AA9.4060309@iinet.net.au> On 16/05/12 06:08, Nils Kassube wrote: > Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 15/05/12 15:31, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> Basil Chupin wrote: >>>> On 15/05/12 14:10, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>>> Because Thunderbird hurts even more (IMHO). I had a brief look at >>>>> Thunderbird recently, and to me it looks worse than it did the >>>>> last time I tried it (some years ago). >>>> Which, of course, requires two questions to be asked: >>>> >>>> 1. Which version of Thunderbird; and >>> The version coming with 12.04. >> Which is....? > Well, you are the TB expert here :) and therefore you should know that > Kubuntu installs the current version. Well, since I don't run 12.04 I couldn't possibly know which version it installs. I am only a trainee-psychic at the moment and fully qualified. > But I checked it, it is 12.0.1. Thanks. (Now, that wasn't too difficult was it? :-) . > 2. Why did it "[look] worse than it did the last time" during your > cursory/fleeting look at it? > I don't remember now, but I'll try it again and then I'll answer > that question. >> That would be great. Not only would it give me some idea of what may >> have grieved you but others as well who may be thinking of switching >> to something which actually works. > 1. The configuration page offers a start page URL? I thought TB is an > email clinet, not a browser. > > 2. The configuration page offers add-ons - again it looks too much like > a browser to me. One of the add-ons is adblock plus - what does that > have to do with email? > > 3. There is an option to accept cookies? Again, what does that have to > do with an email client? I'll answer all these 3 as one question. When you first install Thunderbird it runs whatever you have as the default browser - eg, Firefox if that is your default or Konqueror if that's the default browser. This is done to show you the page which gives you not only a Welcome screen but also gives you information about what is available - as Add-ons for example. No mysteries here. Thunderbird is a mail client and handles e-mail - and this e-mail can be either in ASCII format or in HTML format hence the possible need to use AdBlock (as well as other security extensions - if you are in the habit of opening e-mails from unknown persons/sources). And as far as cookies are concerned, I am subscribed to a newletter which I receive daily. The newsletter comes in 2 formats: ASCII or HTML; and if I read it in the latter format (which is what I prefer) I get a cookie which does 2 things: 1) it checks that I am a subscriber and 2) it then knows that I want to read it in HTML format the next time I go to read it in Thunderbird. Again, nothing mysterious about this. > Granted, those three points are not too important but at least it looks > unappealing to me. > > 4. I want to import mails from kmail. Well, I know that TB doesn't > understand maildir, so I copied some mails to a new mbox folder before I > started TB. But how can I import those mails? While there is an import > option, it doesn't seem to do anything - at least I couldn't convince it > to give me a file dialog to search for the mbox file with the mails I > have saved. I think the answer lies here: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=290125 but as I have never used kmail I can only assume that the solution offered was successful to the person who raised the question. > Of course it isn't useful to continue testing at this point. I have a > lot of saved mails that I don't want to throw away. So obviously TB is > not usable for me. Obviously..... BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed May 16 05:40:09 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 15:40:09 +1000 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <201205152245.44988.mmtsales@gmail.com> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> <3D08C7BB-9640-4DC9-83E6-49D47BA56200@gmail.com> <201205152245.44988.mmtsales@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FB33DB9.10404@iinet.net.au> On 16/05/12 11:45, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > Em ter�a-feira 15 maio 2012, Ryan Gauger escreveu: >> Could you please explain why Thunderbird hurts? I (or somebody else >> on this ml) may be able to help you out. For me, it works better >> than Kmail because Thunderbird automatically sets up your email >> account, but I don't think Kmail does. Thanks! >> > The main issue that prevents me from migrating to Thunderbird is that > its local storage is mbox and this format is very prone to corruption > and other problems when you have too many e-mails stored or when you > receive and delete many e-mails very often. WHOA there! Why are you propagating misinformation? I have e-mails going back 7 years; I delete messages every day (they go into Trash) and I have never, ever, ever, had a corruption of the mail folders. NEVER! After deleting the messages I Compact the folders. And every month I go to the Trash folder and ARCHIVE the previous month's deleted messages (the archiving is done by Thunderbird itself which is a new feature in the latest versions of TB). And with all of this being done, there have never been any corruptions. > I do both and I don't like > the idea of having all my e-mail history in the hands of some cloud > provider. WHAT "cloud provider"?! The messages are on your HDD, on your own computer. Are you confusing Thunderbird with some other mail client? > I want a local copy of my e-mail archive. See above - I archive my mail once a month and this is done by Thunderbird. [.............] BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 16 06:55:44 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 08:55:44 +0200 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB33AA9.4060309@iinet.net.au> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205152208.34353.kassube@gmx.net> <4FB33AA9.4060309@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <201205160855.44846.kassube@gmx.net> Basil Chupin wrote: > On 16/05/12 06:08, Nils Kassube wrote: > > 4. I want to import mails from kmail. Well, I know that TB doesn't > > understand maildir, so I copied some mails to a new mbox folder > > before I started TB. But how can I import those mails? While there > > is an import option, it doesn't seem to do anything - at least I > > couldn't convince it to give me a file dialog to search for the > > mbox file with the mails I have saved. > > I think the answer lies here: > > http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=290125 > > but as I have never used kmail I can only assume that the solution > offered was successful to the person who raised the question. Thanks for searching for a solution, but that forum post doesn't really help. The only suggestion I could find there was to export all mail and then setup a pop3 server to receive the old mail with TB from that server. IMHO that is a bit too much work (not that I couldn't do it). And that's why I think that it hurts even more to move to TB than wait for a sufficiently working Kmail2. When I tested the (IIRC) alpha2 version of 12.04, kmail2 crashed repeatedly. That's why I tried TB and found out that I didn't like it. However before I tried other email clients, came a new KDE version including a new Kmail2. Suddenly the crashed were gone and it looked much brighter. Of course I would prefer to stay with kmail* because that spares the export/import step to keep my old mail and with a little shell script I could also transfer my filters. But the filters don't work reliably for now and the local mailbox doesn't work as expected. So there are still some issues but I expect improvements in the not too far future. I'm not in a hurry - 10.04 still works great for me. Nils From mmtsales at gmail.com Wed May 16 11:15:21 2012 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 08:15:21 -0300 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB33DB9.10404@iinet.net.au> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> <3D08C7BB-9640-4DC9-83E6-49D47BA56200@gmail.com> <201205152245.44988.mmtsales@gmail.com> <4FB33DB9.10404@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: 2012/5/16 Basil Chupin : > On 16/05/12 11:45, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: >> >> Em ter�a-feira 15 maio 2012, Ryan Gauger escreveu: >> >>> Could you please explain why Thunderbird hurts? I (or somebody else >>> on this ml) may be able to help you out. For me, it works better >>> than Kmail because Thunderbird automatically sets up your email >>> account, but I don't think Kmail does. Thanks! >>> >> The main issue that prevents me from migrating to Thunderbird is that >> its local storage is mbox and this format is very prone to corruption >> and other problems when you have too many e-mails stored or when you >> receive and delete many e-mails very often. > > > WHOA there! Why are you propagating misinformation? What? I'm just listing some well known facts that I've learn by my own experience and that are easily verifiable in articles about this subject all over the net. Here's a short text explaining some of the differences between mbox and maildir: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man5/maildir.5.html Of course, if you look for it, you can find much more detailed information about mbox problems. And you, what is your excuse for accusing me of deliberately doing such a thing? > I have e-mails going back 7 years; I delete messages every day (they go into > Trash) and I have never, ever, ever, had a corruption of the mail folders. > NEVER! Lucky you. That has not been my experience. And you have been using Thunderbird for all these 7 years or you have migrated to it recently? > After deleting the messages I Compact the folders. And every month I go to > the Trash folder and ARCHIVE the previous month's deleted messages (the > archiving is done by Thunderbird itself which is a new feature in the latest > versions of TB). > > And with all of this being done, there have never been any corruptions. > I see, now I understand. But I surely don't want to compact each one of the folders I use to store messages from each list that I subscribe to every day. If you are willing to do this work on a daily basis, then you indeed can use mbox with a relatively low risk of corruption. Even then, give Thunderbird enough time and, if you really receive and delete many e-mails daily, you are likely to get some level of corruption eventually because mbox files also get corrupted if the e-mail client misbehaves, freezes or crashes while writing to them. Compacting mailboxes is something required only by mbox and other similar formats that store each mail folder in one single file. One-file-per-message storages like maildir do not require this kind of user intervention to prevent you from wasting disk space or corrupting your mail folders. By itself, the fact that mbox requires the user to do this kind of maintenance in order to keep his e-mails safe tells you something about the reliability of the storage, doesn't it? Maybe that's why we have requests like these in TBs bugzilla: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58308 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361807 Note that these reliability problems are not bugs in Thunderbird, they are inherent to the mbox format. Thunderbird developers have made progresses on this matter by implementing pluggable storages, but this is in early alpha stage and it's not accessible to the common user for now. There's no way for the user to choose a storage other than mbox using TB's GUI as of yet. >>  I do both and I don't like >> the idea of having all my e-mail history in the hands of some cloud >> provider. > > > WHAT "cloud provider"?! Google, Hotmail, Yahoo or whatever you choose to use to store your messages and access them using IMAP. > The messages are on your HDD, on your own computer. > > Are you confusing Thunderbird with some other mail client? No, maybe you misunderstood something I wrote. I was clearly referring to remote storaging and IMAP access when I mentioned cloud providers. >>  I want a local copy of my e-mail archive. > > > See above - I archive my mail once a month and this is done by Thunderbird. Didn't say you can't store local copies of your mail using Thunderbird. What I said is that if you choose to store them locally and if you are a heavy e-mail user, then you are bound to face at least some of the many problems associated with the mbox storage, given enough time. Unless you are willing to compact and archive very often like it seems to be your case. I'm not, however. I'm lazy and have more interesting things to spend my time with. []'s Marcelo From rtgkid at gmail.com Wed May 16 12:17:27 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 07:17:27 -0500 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <201205160651.54679.kassube@gmx.net> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> <3D08C7BB-9640-4DC9-83E6-49D47BA56200@gmail.com> <201205160651.54679.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4FB39AD7.8010004@gmail.com> On 05/15/2012 11:51 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Ryan Gauger wrote: >> Could you please explain why Thunderbird hurts? > See my other mail from yesterday evening. > >> I (or somebody else >> on this ml) may be able to help you out. > Thanks, but I don't think that is necessary. For now I decided that I > don't want TB but wait for a working Kmail2. > >> For me, it works better >> than Kmail because Thunderbird automatically sets up your email >> account, but I don't think Kmail does. Thanks! > The automatic account setup is not interesting for me - I know how to do > it manually. Granted, it saves a few minutes looking up server settings, > but that is all easily available from my kmail settings. Importing all > my old mail is far more important for me. > >> On May 14, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > It would be nice, if you would refrain from top posting. Thank you. > > > Nils > I feel so stupid, but could you please explain to me what top posting is? Thanks! ---Ryan From sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk Wed May 16 12:29:36 2012 From: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk (Sid Boyce) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 13:29:36 +0100 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FB39DB0.1000500@blueyonder.co.uk> News to me - In a recent discussion in another list on the size needed for a /home directory I pointed out that thunderbird on my boxes occupies >72 GB and it's growing so saying 30GB for /home was a nonsense. I backup thunderbird to other machines (Kubuntu and openSUSE) in case I have to use an alternate and especially when the main box has to go down for surgery. if I use another box in the interim, when the main box is back up and stable, I replace .thunderbird on it, move back the latest to it and carry on seamlessly. In all the years I have been using thunderbird I have not lost an email or suffered a corruption by deleting or any other action. Regards Sid. On 16/05/12 05:53, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > > Could you please explain why Thunderbird hurts? I (or somebody else > on this ml) may be able to help you out. For me, it works better > than Kmail because Thunderbird automatically sets up your email > account, but I don't think Kmail does. Thanks! > > The main issue that prevents me from migrating to Thunderbird is that > its local storage is mbox and this format is very prone to corruption > and other problems when you have too many e-mails stored or when you > receive and delete many e-mails very often. I do both and I don't like > the idea of having all my e-mail history in the hands of some cloud > provider. I want a local copy of my e-mail archive. People who doesn't > mind that can use IMAP and in this case there is no storage problem. > KMail uses mdir (one file per message) and I've never lost an e-mail > with it. This format also makes it easier to access any message without > running KMail if you need to (searching a backup, for example), not > mentioning that several processes can easily access the mail storage at > the same time without any problem at all. > This is the main problem, but there are many other features of KMail > that do not exist in Thunderbird. KMail has quick shortcuts for anything > you can imagine and you can customize them if you like. For example, I > subscribe to many distribution lists and I can't possibly read all the > e-mail I get from all of them, so I use the "delete thread" shortcut > very often. If a thread does not interest me, I just CTRL+DEL it at > once. Thunderbird has no shortcut for this nor it allows me to create > one. It's painful to open the menu and click the delete thread command > for every thread I want to delete, it's too time consuming. There are > many, many other cases in which the lack of shortcuts or the > impossibility to customize them get in the way. > In Thunderbird, you must have a trash folder for each of your mailboxes. > I have eight of them and surely do not want to remember which trash do I > need to search if I want do recover a deleted message. I KMail you can > have individual trashes if you like, but you can setup only one trash if > you want. > In KMail, you can configure a folder to store messages of a given > distribution list. You filter the messages from this list to that folder > and KMail scans the headers of the messages and automatically detects > the commands supported by the list server. So it adds these commands to > the right-click menu of the folder. When you right click the folder, you > get commands like "New message to distribution list", "cancel > subscription", and so on. > You can also define templates and the identity that should be used by > default when you start a new message when any given folder is selected. > You can define which dictionary should be used by default when you > select a given identity as the sender for a message. For me, who write > e-mails in three different languages, it's a nice feature. > You can configure a list of words that you normally use in the body of > an e-mail when you send attachments (like attached, attachment, etc.), > so KMail reminds you to attach the file if you use one of these words > and click send without attaching any file. > > I can go on and on for a long time listing a huge number of features > that exist in KMail but not in Thunderbird, but you get the idea. They > are mostly simple features and any one of them isn't a big deal by > itself, but when you use a lot of them and remember you will lose them > all if you migrate, then you will think twice before you do the change. > > I was tempted to migrate to other e-mail client many times since when > the KMail version from KDE 3.5.x was deprecated, because KMail is really > buggy in its current stage. However, nevertheless I think it is still > more advantageous to me to keep using it buggy as it is than to migrate > for other e-mail client. > > []'s > Marcelo > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 06:51:54 +0200 > From: Nils Kassube > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: 12.04 is the worst yet > Message-ID:<201205160651.54679.kassube at gmx.net> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Ryan Gauger wrote: >> Could you please explain why Thunderbird hurts? > See my other mail from yesterday evening. > >> I (or somebody else >> on this ml) may be able to help you out. > Thanks, but I don't think that is necessary. For now I decided that I > don't want TB but wait for a working Kmail2. > >> For me, it works better >> than Kmail because Thunderbird automatically sets up your email >> account, but I don't think Kmail does. Thanks! > The automatic account setup is not interesting for me - I know how to do > it manually. Granted, it saves a few minutes looking up server settings, > but that is all easily available from my kmail settings. Importing all > my old mail is far more important for me. > >> On May 14, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > It would be nice, if you would refrain from top posting. Thank you. > > > Nils > > > > ------------------------------ > -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed May 16 12:37:53 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:37:53 +0200 Subject: Issue 1 with Precise Message-ID: <4FB39FA1.7020106@gmail.com> Hi all, I have an HP laptop with so-called switchable graphics. One part is Intel "lean" card and one is ATI Mobile HD 5450. I am now on Precise 12.04 AMD64 There is supposedly 2 ways to shift between the Intel and the ATI cards: either via something called vgaswitcheroo or by installing the proprietary AMD drivers "fglrx", either from Ubuntu repos or from AMD drivers site. The "switcheroo" solution works so-so, I can switch off the powerconsuming ATI card and rely on my Intel card. Have never really managed to switch the other way however. With AMD drivers it worked in 11.04 this worked and in 11.10 with pae-kernel. You switch drivers and reboot (possibly restart x would be enough) and it is OK until you switch back. Since I tried with 64-bit version this has stopped working. The AMD driver seem to install but once you try to config x.org you run into various issues. The most persistent saying: PowerXpress: '/usr/lib64/fglrx' must not be writable by group or others I have googled (well startpage actually) and read forums and bugreports but nothing works. Anyone using a similar combo on Precise AMD64 and got the ATI fgrlx drivers working? Am seriously considering revering to pae-kernel (have "only" 4Gb RAM so should not really make a huge difference). kind regards Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed May 16 12:42:35 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:42:35 +0200 Subject: Issue 2 with Precise Message-ID: <4FB3A0BB.4070001@gmail.com> In 11.10 I could hibernate (resume is not working but never did, suspect hardware as it is buggered in Windows 7 as well) either by having fglrx graphics blob installed (this while on pae-kernel) or by using tuxonice ppa while on AMD64. Now in 12.04 apparently it is "disabled". I have followed the advice on enabling it but neither with vanilla kernel or with tuxonice does it work. On vanilla kernel it does all the right movements but freezes on resume. On tuxonice kernel it looks like it is hibernating but starts with a fresh login. Any ideas are welcome, no matter how "oldfashioned" hibernate may seem. When you experience powercuts of up to 14 hours you want to be able to hibernate. kind regards Sinclair From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 16 12:48:34 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:48:34 +0200 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB39AD7.8010004@gmail.com> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205160651.54679.kassube@gmx.net> <4FB39AD7.8010004@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201205161448.34422.kassube@gmx.net> Ryan Gauger wrote: > On 05/15/2012 11:51 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > > It would be nice, if you would refrain from top posting. Thank you. > > I feel so stupid, but could you please explain to me what top posting > is? Thanks! There's no need to feel stupid if you don't know what top posting is. I think, this Wikipedia article explains it better than I could: See also section "Technical guidelines" of . Nils From lahc2007 at gmail.com Wed May 16 18:24:21 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:24:21 -0400 Subject: Issue 1 with Precise In-Reply-To: <4FB39FA1.7020106@gmail.com> References: <4FB39FA1.7020106@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi O. Sinclair, I have a somewhat similar laptop: Gateway AMD Turion 64 and ATI Radeon Xpress 200M 5955 PCIe graphics. No dual vidoe. I initially found it would not install 12.04 at all due to what I can only describe as an error in the install routines. Installation stopped and froze when it could not find a driver for the built in Broadcom wireless card, even when the wired internet was connected. The solution was to use the alternate installer and make some changes to the grub scripts when first time booting, made permanent after the first successful boot. To return to your question: my laptop is using the generic VGA drivers and has a speed of less than 60 FPS. Not very impressive. The "Additional Drivers" utility finds nothing. I tried using the ATI proprietary drivers but they didn't work. Apparently some ATI cards are just not supported by the manufacturer, admittedly they are old, but still worked well in 11.10. The problem may lie with the X.org.com people, but I guess you can't expect 6 year old hardware to go on forever. The ATI fgrlx drivers just won't work for such systems as yours and mine. On 16 May 2012 08:37, O. Sinclair wrote: > Hi all, > > I have an HP laptop with so-called switchable graphics. One part is Intel > "lean" card and one is ATI Mobile HD 5450. > > I am now on Precise 12.04 AMD64 > > There is supposedly 2 ways to shift between the Intel and the ATI cards: > either via something called vgaswitcheroo or by installing the proprietary > AMD drivers "fglrx", either from Ubuntu repos or from AMD drivers site. > > The "switcheroo" solution works so-so, I can switch off the powerconsuming > ATI card and rely on my Intel card. Have never really managed to switch the > other way however. > > With AMD drivers it worked in 11.04 this worked and in 11.10 with > pae-kernel. You switch drivers and reboot (possibly restart x would be > enough) and it is OK until you switch back. > > Since I tried with 64-bit version this has stopped working. The AMD driver > seem to install but once you try to config x.org you run into various > issues. The most persistent saying: > PowerXpress: '/usr/lib64/fglrx' must not be writable by group or others > > I have googled (well startpage actually) and read forums and bugreports but > nothing works. > > Anyone using a similar combo on Precise AMD64 and got the ATI fgrlx drivers > working? > > Am seriously considering revering to pae-kernel (have "only" 4Gb RAM so > should not really make a huge difference). > > kind regards > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From lahc2007 at gmail.com Wed May 16 18:25:52 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:25:52 -0400 Subject: Issue 2 with Precise In-Reply-To: <4FB3A0BB.4070001@gmail.com> References: <4FB3A0BB.4070001@gmail.com> Message-ID: Same problem here. I just don't use it - not a very satisfactory solution. On 16 May 2012 08:42, O. Sinclair wrote: > In 11.10 I could hibernate (resume is not working but never did, suspect > hardware as it is buggered in Windows 7 as well) either by having fglrx > graphics blob installed (this while on pae-kernel) or by using tuxonice ppa > while on AMD64. > > Now in 12.04 apparently it is "disabled". I have followed the advice on > enabling it but neither with vanilla kernel or with tuxonice does it work. > On vanilla kernel it does all the right movements but freezes on resume. On > tuxonice kernel it looks like it is hibernating but starts with a fresh > login. > > Any ideas are welcome, no matter how "oldfashioned" hibernate may seem. When > you experience powercuts of up to 14 hours you want to be able to hibernate. > > kind regards > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu May 17 03:48:07 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 05:48:07 +0200 Subject: Issue 1 with Precise In-Reply-To: References: <4FB39FA1.7020106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FB474F7.7080502@gmail.com> On 16/05/12 20:24, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: > Hi O. Sinclair, > > I have a somewhat similar laptop: Gateway AMD Turion 64 and ATI Radeon > Xpress 200M 5955 PCIe graphics. No dual vidoe. I initially found it > would not install 12.04 at all due to what I can only describe as an > error in the install routines. Installation stopped and froze when it > could not find a driver for the built in Broadcom wireless card, even > when the wired internet was connected. The solution was to use the > alternate installer and make some changes to the grub scripts when > first time booting, made permanent after the first successful boot. > > To return to your question: my laptop is using the generic VGA drivers > and has a speed of less than 60 FPS. Not very impressive. The > "Additional Drivers" utility finds nothing. I tried using the ATI > proprietary drivers but they didn't work. Apparently some ATI cards > are just not supported by the manufacturer, admittedly they are old, > but still worked well in 11.10. The problem may lie with the X.org.com > people, but I guess you can't expect 6 year old hardware to go on > forever. The ATI fgrlx drivers just won't work for such systems as > yours and mine. > > On 16 May 2012 08:37, O. Sinclair wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I have an HP laptop with so-called switchable graphics. One part is Intel >> "lean" card and one is ATI Mobile HD 5450. >> >> I am now on Precise 12.04 AMD64 >> >> There is supposedly 2 ways to shift between the Intel and the ATI cards: >> either via something called vgaswitcheroo or by installing the proprietary >> AMD drivers "fglrx", either from Ubuntu repos or from AMD drivers site. >> >> The "switcheroo" solution works so-so, I can switch off the powerconsuming >> ATI card and rely on my Intel card. Have never really managed to switch the >> other way however. >> >> With AMD drivers it worked in 11.04 this worked and in 11.10 with >> pae-kernel. You switch drivers and reboot (possibly restart x would be >> enough) and it is OK until you switch back. >> >> Since I tried with 64-bit version this has stopped working. The AMD driver >> seem to install but once you try to config x.org you run into various >> issues. The most persistent saying: >> PowerXpress: '/usr/lib64/fglrx' must not be writable by group or others >> >> I have googled (well startpage actually) and read forums and bugreports but >> nothing works. >> >> Anyone using a similar combo on Precise AMD64 and got the ATI fgrlx drivers >> working? >> >> Am seriously considering revering to pae-kernel (have "only" 4Gb RAM so >> should not really make a huge difference). >> thanks for your reply but my system is less than 2 years old on the market and AMD site claims it should be supported (the card that is). where this "goes bonkers" for me is something in the 64-bit install of fglrx - I am not the only one, have found several reports on the issue on the net. But no solution that works. Maybe I should just bite the bullet and try the 32-bit pae kernel again as that was the last time I got the AMD drivers to work proper. Though I hate not being able to use the full capacity of the system. From lahc2007 at gmail.com Thu May 17 05:00:10 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 01:00:10 -0400 Subject: Issue 1 with Precise In-Reply-To: <4FB474F7.7080502@gmail.com> References: <4FB39FA1.7020106@gmail.com> <4FB474F7.7080502@gmail.com> Message-ID: Let's hope the brains trust (anywhere it can be found) will find a brilliant solution for you. A 2 year old computer should not give you that kind of hassle. Mine, I knew it was coming, but I still hope for an fglrx fix. On 16 May 2012 23:48, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 16/05/12 20:24, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: >> >> Hi O. Sinclair, >> >> I have a somewhat similar laptop: Gateway AMD Turion 64 and ATI Radeon >> Xpress 200M 5955 PCIe graphics. No dual vidoe. I initially found it >> would not install 12.04 at all due to what I can only describe as an >> error in the install routines. Installation stopped and froze when it >> could not find a driver for the built in Broadcom wireless card, even >> when the wired internet was connected. The solution was to use the >> alternate installer and make some changes to the grub scripts when >> first time booting, made permanent after the first successful boot. >> >> To return to your question: my laptop is using the generic VGA drivers >> and has a speed of less than 60 FPS. Not very impressive. The >> "Additional Drivers" utility finds nothing. I tried using the ATI >> proprietary drivers but they didn't work. Apparently some ATI cards >> are just not supported by the manufacturer, admittedly they are old, >> but still worked well in 11.10. The problem may lie with the X.org.com >> people, but I guess you can't expect 6 year old hardware to go on >> forever. The ATI fgrlx drivers just won't work for such systems as >> yours and mine. >> >> On 16 May 2012 08:37, O. Sinclair  wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I have an HP laptop with so-called switchable graphics. One part is Intel >>> "lean" card and one is ATI Mobile HD 5450. >>> >>> I am now on Precise 12.04 AMD64 >>> >>> There is supposedly 2 ways to shift between the Intel and the ATI cards: >>> either via something called vgaswitcheroo or by installing the >>> proprietary >>> AMD drivers "fglrx", either from Ubuntu repos or from AMD drivers site. >>> >>> The "switcheroo" solution works so-so, I can switch off the >>> powerconsuming >>> ATI card and rely on my Intel card. Have never really managed to switch >>> the >>> other way however. >>> >>> With AMD drivers it worked in 11.04 this worked and in 11.10 with >>> pae-kernel. You switch drivers and reboot (possibly restart x would be >>> enough) and it is OK until you switch back. >>> >>> Since I tried with 64-bit version this has stopped working. The AMD >>> driver >>> seem to install but once you try to config x.org you run into various >>> issues. The most persistent saying: >>> PowerXpress: '/usr/lib64/fglrx' must not be writable by group or others >>> >>> I have googled (well startpage actually) and read forums and bugreports >>> but >>> nothing works. >>> >>> Anyone using a similar combo on Precise AMD64 and got the ATI fgrlx >>> drivers >>> working? >>> >>> Am seriously considering revering to pae-kernel (have "only" 4Gb RAM so >>> should not really make a huge difference). >>> > thanks for your reply but my system is less than 2 years old on the market > and AMD site claims it should be supported (the card that is). > > where this "goes bonkers" for me is something in the 64-bit install of fglrx > - I am not the only one, have found several reports on the issue on the net. > But no solution that works. > > Maybe I should just bite the bullet and try the 32-bit pae kernel again as > that was the last time I got the AMD drivers to work proper. Though I hate > not being able to use the full capacity of the system. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu May 17 05:12:34 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 15:12:34 +1000 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> <3D08C7BB-9640-4DC9-83E6-49D47BA56200@gmail.com> <201205152245.44988.mmtsales@gmail.com> <4FB33DB9.10404@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FB488C2.8020200@iinet.net.au> On 16/05/12 21:15, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > 2012/5/16 Basil Chupin: [.............] >> I have e-mails going back 7 years; I delete messages every day (they go into >> Trash) and I have never, ever, ever, had a corruption of the mail folders. >> NEVER! > Lucky you. That has not been my experience. And you have been using > Thunderbird for all these 7 years or you have migrated to it recently? I have been using Thunderbird when it first started of as Netscape. Now, that's a very long time ago. In 2001 I started to use XP and had Thunderbird at that time. A year later I started to use Linux and all I had to do was to simply copy the Thunderbird directory over to Linux (S.u.S.E. now called openSUSE) and carried on without any problems. Then some 7 years ago I had a bad crash, losing 2 HDDs which not only contained Linux but also the backups on the second HDD. I had to replace the HDDs and therefore had to start from scratch with respect to Thunderbird mail and Firefox settings. I have been using the same Thunderbird mail directory since that time and in various upgrades of the Linux system and replacements of HDDs. And in all this time - starting way back in 2001 - I have never, ever, lost a message nor had a corruption of the mail folders. >> After deleting the messages I Compact the folders. And every month I go to >> the Trash folder and ARCHIVE the previous month's deleted messages (the >> archiving is done by Thunderbird itself which is a new feature in the latest >> versions of TB). >> >> And with all of this being done, there have never been any corruptions. >> > I see, now I understand. No, I don't think that you do - nor want to for that matter. Let me explain once again.... > But I surely don't want to compact each one > of the folders I use to store messages from each list that I subscribe > to every day. If you are willing to do this work on a daily basis, As I read the posts in the various folders I delete the most irrelevant (from my perspective) posts. These deletes go into a folder called TRASH. At the end of the day, before going to bed, I - alas and alack! - have to spend time and effort to do 4 mouse-clicks to have all the folders compacted (for the deleted messages). The compacting takes about 2 seconds on a bad day - or less on a good day. (Mind you, when I was using a 32-bit system the compacting took ~10 seconds on a 'bad day'.) Once a month I go to the TRASH folder and select the deleted messages received in the previous month and these are then archived by Thunderbird and go into the ARCHIVES folder which is sub-divided into MONTHly folders (this can be set to be weekly or yearly sub-folders if one chose to do so). The actual archiving takes about 4 or 5 seconds - but selecting what I want to archive takes a bit longer of course. And with all this deleting-compacting-archiving I have not lost a single message. [...............] BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From girardhenri at free.fr Thu May 17 07:17:39 2012 From: girardhenri at free.fr (girardhenri) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 09:17:39 +0200 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB488C2.8020200@iinet.net.au> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> <3D08C7BB-9640-4DC9-83E6-49D47BA56200@gmail.com> <201205152245.44988.mmtsales@gmail.com> <4FB33DB9.10404@iinet.net.au> <4FB488C2.8020200@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FB4A613.7080501@free.fr> Le 17/05/2012 07:12, Basil Chupin a écrit : > On 16/05/12 21:15, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: >> 2012/5/16 Basil Chupin: > > [.............] > > >>> I have e-mails going back 7 years; I delete messages every day (they >>> go into >>> Trash) and I have never, ever, ever, had a corruption of the mail >>> folders. >>> NEVER! >> Lucky you. That has not been my experience. And you have been using >> Thunderbird for all these 7 years or you have migrated to it recently? > > I have been using Thunderbird when it first started of as Netscape. > Now, that's a very long time ago. > > In 2001 I started to use XP and had Thunderbird at that time. A year > later I started to use Linux and all I had to do was to simply copy > the Thunderbird directory over to Linux (S.u.S.E. now called openSUSE) > and carried on without any problems. > > Then some 7 years ago I had a bad crash, losing 2 HDDs which not only > contained Linux but also the backups on the second HDD. I had to > replace the HDDs and therefore had to start from scratch with respect > to Thunderbird mail and Firefox settings. > > I have been using the same Thunderbird mail directory since that time > and in various upgrades of the Linux system and replacements of HDDs. > > And in all this time - starting way back in 2001 - I have never, ever, > lost a message nor had a corruption of the mail folders. > > >>> After deleting the messages I Compact the folders. And every month I >>> go to >>> the Trash folder and ARCHIVE the previous month's deleted messages (the >>> archiving is done by Thunderbird itself which is a new feature in >>> the latest >>> versions of TB). >>> >>> And with all of this being done, there have never been any corruptions. >>> >> I see, now I understand. > > No, I don't think that you do - nor want to for that matter. Let me > explain once again.... > > >> But I surely don't want to compact each one >> of the folders I use to store messages from each list that I subscribe >> to every day. If you are willing to do this work on a daily basis, > > As I read the posts in the various folders I delete the most > irrelevant (from my perspective) posts. These deletes go into a folder > called TRASH. > > At the end of the day, before going to bed, I - alas and alack! - have > to spend time and effort to do 4 mouse-clicks to have all the folders > compacted (for the deleted messages). > > The compacting takes about 2 seconds on a bad day - or less on a good > day. (Mind you, when I was using a 32-bit system the compacting took > ~10 seconds on a 'bad day'.) > > Once a month I go to the TRASH folder and select the deleted messages > received in the previous month and these are then archived by > Thunderbird and go into the ARCHIVES folder which is sub-divided into > MONTHly folders (this can be set to be weekly or yearly sub-folders if > one chose to do so). The actual archiving takes about 4 or 5 seconds - > but selecting what I want to archive takes a bit longer of course. > > And with all this deleting-compacting-archiving I have not lost a > single message. > > > [...............] > > BC I have done few update-manager -d recently and things look like getting better with 12.04, no more alerts about my system crashing like before ! From bootinglinux at gmail.com Thu May 17 08:57:24 2012 From: bootinglinux at gmail.com (Booting Linux) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 10:57:24 +0200 Subject: how to file kubuntu bugs Message-ID: i am a new kubuntu user and have faced many bugs. where can i file kubuntu bugs? ~ BL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valtermura at gmail.com Thu May 17 11:39:49 2012 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 13:39:49 +0200 Subject: how to file kubuntu bugs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2012/5/17 Booting Linux > i am a new kubuntu user and have faced many bugs. where can i file kubuntu > bugs? > > ~ BL > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ Brdgs, -- Valter *Open Source is better!* KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmtsales at gmail.com Thu May 17 12:36:13 2012 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 09:36:13 -0300 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB488C2.8020200@iinet.net.au> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> <3D08C7BB-9640-4DC9-83E6-49D47BA56200@gmail.com> <201205152245.44988.mmtsales@gmail.com> <4FB33DB9.10404@iinet.net.au> <4FB488C2.8020200@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: 2012/5/17 Basil Chupin : > On 16/05/12 21:15, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: >> >> 2012/5/16 Basil Chupin: > > > [.............] I've pointed you to Ubuntu's documentation and to information provided by Thunderbird's developers themselves on this matter so you don't have to rely solely on my personal opinion, but you chose to ignore all of that and just repeat what you had already said, as if we are blind or dumb. Worst, you accuse people you don't know of deliberately misleading others with false information, but offers no evidence or apologies. There's obviously no point in continuing to argue with you. Anyone who wants deeper info on this subject already knows what to look for and I have no interest in convincing anybody to use this or that e-mail client, so I'll not continue this discussion. []'s Marcelo From thomas at tanghus.net Thu May 17 12:51:23 2012 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Olsen) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 14:51:23 +0200 Subject: how to file kubuntu bugs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1996985.H5b90Rbx5D@tanghus> On Thursday 17 May 2012 13:39 Valter Mura wrote: > 2012/5/17 Booting Linux > > > i am a new kubuntu user and have faced many bugs. where can i file kubuntu > > bugs? > > > > ~ BL > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ But most bugs regarding KDE applications or Workspace should be reported at https://bugs.kde.org/ -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From theuteck at gmail.com Thu May 17 13:00:20 2012 From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:00:20 -0500 Subject: how to file kubuntu bugs In-Reply-To: <1996985.H5b90Rbx5D@tanghus> References: <1996985.H5b90Rbx5D@tanghus> Message-ID: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Thursday 17 May 2012 13:39 Valter Mura wrote: >> 2012/5/17 Booting Linux >> >> > i am a new kubuntu user and have faced many bugs. where can i file kubuntu >> > bugs? >> > >> > ~ BL >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ > > But most bugs regarding KDE applications or Workspace should be reported at > https://bugs.kde.org/ > > -- > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards > > Thomas Olsen > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users If you install the debugging application kdbg the system will collect information and walk you through filing a bug. But this does take up a lot more space as every KDE app needs to download and install it's debugging package, but once that is done it is really easy to file bugs. -- no .sig found Please restart your browser. From bootinglinux at gmail.com Thu May 17 14:10:43 2012 From: bootinglinux at gmail.com (Linux User) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 16:10:43 +0200 Subject: how to file kubuntu bugs In-Reply-To: References: <1996985.H5b90Rbx5D@tanghus> Message-ID: <4FB506E3.7070000@gmail.com> On 05/17/2012 03:00 PM, uteck wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Thomas Olsen wrote: >> On Thursday 17 May 2012 13:39 Valter Mura wrote: >>> 2012/5/17 Booting Linux >>> >>>> i am a new kubuntu user and have faced many bugs. where can i file kubuntu >>>> bugs? >>>> >>>> ~ BL >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net filed one. https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/1000665 ~ Linux User >> But most bugs regarding KDE applications or Workspace should be reported at >> https://bugs.kde.org/ >> >> -- >> Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards >> >> Thomas Olsen >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > If you install the debugging application kdbg the system will collect > information and walk you through filing a bug. But this does take up > a lot more space as every KDE app needs to download and install it's > debugging package, but once that is done it is really easy to file > bugs. > From rtgkid at gmail.com Thu May 17 14:13:24 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 09:13:24 -0500 Subject: how to file kubuntu bugs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FB50784.5070103@gmail.com> On 05/17/2012 06:39 AM, Valter Mura wrote: > > > 2012/5/17 Booting Linux > > > i am a new kubuntu user and have faced many bugs. where can i file > kubuntu bugs? > > ~ BL > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ > > > Brdgs, > > -- > Valter > *Open Source is better!* > KDE: www.kde.org > Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org > LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org > > Launchpad is for Ubuntu only. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Thu May 17 15:29:01 2012 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 18:29:01 +0300 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB488C2.8020200@iinet.net.au> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <201205150610.59063.kassube@gmx.net> <3D08C7BB-9640-4DC9-83E6-49D47BA56200@gmail.com> <201205152245.44988.mmtsales@gmail.com> <4FB33DB9.10404@iinet.net.au> <4FB488C2.8020200@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FB5193D.7070408@whamra.com> On 05/17/2012 08:12 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 16/05/12 21:15, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: >> 2012/5/16 Basil Chupin: > >[snip] similar experience here. my current thunderbird directory is 5 years old. i have been moving it through upgrades and fresh installs, and it never ever got corrupted. akonadi's IMAP engine on the other hand, fails to load at least once ever 4 power outages or so (i'm afraid that can't be controlled, bad power system here). now these are mostly repairable by checking one or 2 corrupt files, unrelated to the main mail storage, but it's a hassle nevertheless, a hassle i dont have with thunderbird. i'm always on the cutting edge with thunderbird, i have the mercurial aurora repository updated every month, from which i compile thunderbird. aurora is what gives you "alpha 2" channel. and i can see i have always been happy with the state of TB. sure mailboxes, maildirs, whatever else can have a large impact. i am all for maildirs, and that's what i use on my mail server, but TB's mboxes never caused me trouble. never got corrupted. the max that does get corrupted after a power outage are the files with sqlite extension, and those are safe to delete. and for all what's it worth, mail is too important to be careless with, my mail server keeps everything stored, accessible through IMAP from any client wherever i am. thunderbird on my main machine has a copy. my backup bag has a section for mail backups. once you have upwards of 45K emails... -- Waleed K. 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Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the only HDD) L From kaj at haulrich.net Thu May 17 21:34:09 2012 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 23:34:09 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO In-Reply-To: <4FB55F44.1050107@gmail.com> References: <4FB55F44.1050107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FB56ED1.6080403@haulrich.net> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: > Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It > boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the only HDD) You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put grub on the EFI-partition. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- From mdhirsch at gmail.com Thu May 17 22:02:14 2012 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 16:02:14 -0600 Subject: Importiing Kmail to thunderbird ?possible In-Reply-To: References: <4FA908EB.50507@internode.on.net> Message-ID: On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > 2012/5/8 Richard Terry : > > After many years I've relectantly decided to give up my kmail and > switch to > > thunderbird, and I wondered if anyone had successfullyl imported the > kmail > > folders/messages, or if it was possible > > > > Regards > > > > richard > > As much as I can tell, there's no direct way to import your Kmail's > maildir into Thunderbird's mbox store. However, you can do this > A web search will yield many mbox to maildir converters, but I don't see anyone advertising maildir to mbox. You would think someone would have done it. As I recall, I used kmail to convert to mbox. I would create a new mail folder in maildir format and move all the files from the old, mbox, folder to the new one. The conversion happened automatically. Perhaps this could work in reverse, too? Kmail used to understand mbox. If it still does, and can create a new mbox folder, you could copy the maildir emails to the mbox folder. If that works, you should be able to have thunderbird use the mbox folder. Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clay at claydoh.com Thu May 17 22:31:43 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 18:31:43 -0400 Subject: how to file kubuntu bugs In-Reply-To: <4FB506E3.7070000@gmail.com> References: <4FB506E3.7070000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1359309.aEqrpFmDeZ@lark-latitude-d630> On Thursday, May 17, 2012 04:10:43 PM Linux User wrote: > On 05/17/2012 03:00 PM, uteck wrote: > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > >> On Thursday 17 May 2012 13:39 Valter Mura wrote: > >>> 2012/5/17 Booting Linux > >>> > >>>> i am a new kubuntu user and have faced many bugs. where can i file > >>>> kubuntu > >>>> bugs? > >>>> > >>>> ~ BL > >>> > >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net > > filed one. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/1000665 > > ~ Linux User > I went an looked at your bug report, I edited it to reflect the proer program - usb-creator-kde (which is actually a subset of the source package usb-creator, which is what launchpad will show the bug for). Bug reporting is not always straightforward, especially if the application itself has no "report bug" link in its nonexistent Help menu. -- clay From clay at claydoh.com Thu May 17 22:36:40 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 18:36:40 -0400 Subject: how to file kubuntu bugs In-Reply-To: <4FB50784.5070103@gmail.com> References: <4FB50784.5070103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2746129.TAmviIJhtC@lark-latitude-d630> > On Thursday, May 17, 2012 09:13:24 AM Ryan Gauger wrote: > > On 05/17/2012 06:39 AM, Valter Mura wrote: > > > > 2012/5/17 Booting Linux > > i am a new kubuntu user and have faced many bugs. where can i file kubuntu bugs? > > ~ BL > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ > > > > Brdgs, > > -- > Valter > *Open Source is better!* > KDE: www.kde.org > Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org > LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org > > > > Launchpad is for Ubuntu only. > > > > 100% Incorrect. While it is preferred to report KDE specific bugs to bugs.kde.org, installer bugs, broken packages, Kubuntu-specific software or anything "under the hood" should be reported via launchpad. The offending program from the bug reported linked to above is usb-creator-kde, a K(U)buntu-specific program -- Clay Weber (claydoh) http://kubuntuforums.net http://ubuntumaine.org From bootinglinux at gmail.com Thu May 17 23:06:53 2012 From: bootinglinux at gmail.com (Linux User) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 01:06:53 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO In-Reply-To: <4FB56ED1.6080403@haulrich.net> References: <4FB55F44.1050107@gmail.com> <4FB56ED1.6080403@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <4FB5848D.6010808@gmail.com> On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: >> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It >> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the >> only HDD) > > You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put > grub on the EFI-partition. which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual boot with Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 > > HTH > Kaj Haulrich. From mdhirsch at gmail.com Thu May 17 23:23:44 2012 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 17:23:44 -0600 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <4FB1A7E2.2040807@iinet.net.au> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <4FB1A7E2.2040807@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 15/05/12 10:02, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > Flash items tend to remain on the screen... in the middle of other items >> on >> the screen. (really disconcerting) >> > > Ah, you too! The latest Flash, right? > > The way I got rid of that is to deselect Use Hardware Acceleration in its > settings. Also gets rid of the blue colour in videos. > Cool! I had only noticed this problem a couple of times, and now I know how to fix it. Thanks! Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri May 18 02:32:23 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 12:32:23 +1000 Subject: [precise] k9copy: unable to open /dev/sr0 In-Reply-To: <4FB532C7.8090406@gmail.com> References: <4FB532C7.8090406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FB5B4B7.4040909@iinet.net.au> On 18/05/12 03:17, D. R. Evans wrote: > After installing precise, k9copy tells me that it cannot open /dev/sr0. What exactly do you mean by this? What happens when - without k9copy running! - you insert a DVD into the drive - does the menu come up (bottom right) "asking" you what you want to do with the DVD and is the option to use k9copy there? (Have you checked the Settings in k9copy? One of the settings which defaults to "Unknown" is the one to do with language of the film and the sub-titles. Untick "Unknown" and tick English (eg) in both. BTW, the part dealing with Devices seems to always show nothing - but k9copy still works so don't panic about this setting :-) .) I've tried everything I can think of to resolve this problem, but it's time to ask for help here. permissions on /dev/sr0 are: rw for root rw for group cdrom the user is a member of group cdrom I get the same error even if I run k9copy as root (not a good idea, I know). Everything else I've tried works: I can mount the DVD as (for example) /media/dvd. I can play the DVD with (for example) Kaffeine So what do I need to do to have k9copy be able to access the disc? Doc > > -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri May 18 02:34:40 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 12:34:40 +1000 Subject: [precise] k9copy: unable to open /dev/sr0 In-Reply-To: <4FB532C7.8090406@gmail.com> References: <4FB532C7.8090406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FB5B540.7010202@iinet.net.au> On 18/05/12 03:17, D. R. Evans wrote: > After installing precise, k9copy tells me that it cannot open /dev/sr0. Eh, sorry about the previous reply. I hit the wrong button and sent the message instead of editing the mess created after I deleted some bits :-( . Apologies. [............] BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri May 18 04:30:51 2012 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 22:30:51 -0600 Subject: [precise] k9copy: unable to open /dev/sr0 In-Reply-To: <4FB5B4B7.4040909@iinet.net.au> References: <4FB532C7.8090406@gmail.com> <4FB5B4B7.4040909@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FB5D07B.4020104@gmail.com> Basil Chupin said the following at 05/17/2012 08:32 PM : > On 18/05/12 03:17, D. R. Evans wrote: >> After installing precise, k9copy tells me that it cannot open /dev/sr0. > > What exactly do you mean by this? When I run k9copy and say "Open", it responds with "cannot open disc /dev/sr0". > > What happens when - without k9copy running! - you insert a DVD into the > drive - does the menu come up (bottom right) "asking" you what you want > to do with the DVD and is the option to use k9copy there? > Yes. > (Have you checked the Settings in k9copy? One of the settings which > defaults to "Unknown" is the one to do with language of the film and the > sub-titles. Untick "Unknown" and tick English (eg) in both. > English is ticked... but like I say, k9copy never even gets to the disc since it can't open it. > BTW, the part dealing with Devices seems to always show nothing - but > k9copy still works so don't panic about this setting :-) .) The part dealing with Devices is there to ADD devices. k9copy knows about /dev/sr0 so it definitely doesn't need adding Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Evans wrote: >>> After installing precise, k9copy tells me that it cannot open /dev/sr0. >> What exactly do you mean by this? > When I run k9copy and say "Open", it responds with "cannot open disc /dev/sr0". > >> What happens when - without k9copy running! - you insert a DVD into the >> drive - does the menu come up (bottom right) "asking" you what you want >> to do with the DVD and is the option to use k9copy there? >> > Yes. I guess what I meant to add earlier was: what happens if you select k9copy form this menu - does k9copy start but then it cannot open sr0, right? A most interesting puzzle :-) . I know that k9copy is no longer supported - the author gave up trying to maintain it over 12 months ago - but even so it should at least recognise and open disc in sr0. OK, have you tried running k9copy in a terminal? Often this may show what may be causing the problem. Have you looked at the logs in /var/log/ ? How about ~/.kde4/share/config/K9copy to see if there is anything here which looks "not quite right"? Finally, have you tried creating a new user and trying out k9copy as this user? [..........] BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.3.6 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From kaj at haulrich.net Fri May 18 05:08:39 2012 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 07:08:39 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO In-Reply-To: <4FB5848D.6010808@gmail.com> References: <4FB55F44.1050107@gmail.com> <4FB56ED1.6080403@haulrich.net> <4FB5848D.6010808@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FB5D957.60903@haulrich.net> On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote: > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the >>> only HDD) >> >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put >> grub on the EFI-partition. > > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual boot with > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from inside Windows - sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' partition. Not sure though, because first thing I do with a new computer is to erase Windows completely. However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have to create an EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put grub-efi on it. On my system that is sda2. As far as I can tell there is no way of getting rid of this UEFI rigmarole and revert to the good, old BIOS. There is some further information here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Fri May 18 05:11:09 2012 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 01:11:09 -0400 Subject: [precise] k9copy: unable to open /dev/sr0 In-Reply-To: <4FB5D6CD.8000608@iinet.net.au> References: <4FB532C7.8090406@gmail.com> <4FB5B4B7.4040909@iinet.net.au> <4FB5D07B.4020104@gmail.com> <4FB5D6CD.8000608@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FB5D9ED.1080003@optonline.net> On 05/18/2012 12:57 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 18/05/12 14:30, D. R. Evans wrote: >> Basil Chupin said the following at 05/17/2012 08:32 PM : >>> On 18/05/12 03:17, D. R. Evans wrote: >>>> After installing precise, k9copy tells me that it cannot open >>>> /dev/sr0. >>> What exactly do you mean by this? >> When I run k9copy and say "Open", it responds with "cannot open disc >> /dev/sr0". >> >>> What happens when - without k9copy running! - you insert a DVD into the >>> drive - does the menu come up (bottom right) "asking" you what you want >>> to do with the DVD and is the option to use k9copy there? >>> >> Yes. > > I guess what I meant to add earlier was: what happens if you select > k9copy form this menu - does k9copy start but then it cannot open sr0, > right? > > A most interesting puzzle :-) . I know that k9copy is no longer > supported - the author gave up trying to maintain it over 12 months > ago - but even so it should at least recognise and open disc in sr0. > > OK, have you tried running k9copy in a terminal? Often this may show > what may be causing the problem. > > Have you looked at the logs in /var/log/ ? > > How about ~/.kde4/share/config/K9copy to see if there is anything here > which looks "not quite right"? > > Finally, have you tried creating a new user and trying out k9copy as > this user? > > [..........] > > BC > Maybe your dog could open it? --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley From gkourtev at gmail.com Fri May 18 13:00:10 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:00:10 +0300 Subject: Strange behaviour Kontact Message-ID: <5410442.qTxEDZA1LY@gkourtev-laptop> Hi all, On a fresh 64-bit install of 12.04 (4.8.3) from time to time I have a bit of a strange behavious of Kontact while sending emails. When pressing the 'Send' button of a new email, the message concerned is greyed and stays on screen. Kontact continues to work (i.e. does not stuck completely), but I cannot open messages, nor delete or move. When this happens, when clicking on message I have the screen saying 'Retrieving message', or something alike. Restart of Kontact and Akonadi does not help in these situations. Only re- login. Anyone else experiencing this? Ideas how to correct it? Thanks, gk From whyskyhigh at yahoo.de Fri May 18 13:13:28 2012 From: whyskyhigh at yahoo.de (tobias schwibingerr) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 14:13:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID In-Reply-To: <4FB5D957.60903@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <1337346808.70969.YahooMailClassic@web29603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> good morningI am very new with linux. but I can use evolution and firefox and this is better than winonline my question:I only can boot hardybut not lucid or ocelotit is a vga problem. is f4 the right way? shall I mail lspci oder lshal? second questionis this a community for linux and ubuntu and xubuntu and so onor only for kubuntu. thank your forwarf for help whysky --- Kaj Haulrich schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Kaj Haulrich Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO An: "Kubuntu user technical support" Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 07:08 Uhr On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote: > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the >>> only HDD) >> >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put >> grub on the EFI-partition. > > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual boot with > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from inside Windows - sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' partition. Not sure though, because first thing I do with a new computer is to erase Windows completely. However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have to create an EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put grub-efi on it. On my system that is sda2.  As far as I can tell there is no way of getting rid of this UEFI rigmarole and revert to the good, old BIOS. There is some further information here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rtgkid at gmail.com Fri May 18 14:08:03 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 09:08:03 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID In-Reply-To: <1337346808.70969.YahooMailClassic@web29603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <1337346808.70969.YahooMailClassic@web29603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FB657C3.5080701@gmail.com> Good morning, Tobias. Very good questions you have. I think I can answer the first half-way, and I am sure I can answer your second question. Do you get past the boot screen with Oneiric and Lucid? In the boot screen (GRUB), to boot into different operating systems (different versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc, Windows or other OS), when inside GRUB, select between the different operating systems by using the down and up keys on the keyboard. Then, press the enter/return key on the keyboard to boot the selected operating system. Do you know this is a VGA problem? If so, I have no clue how to solve this, unless you install drivers for VGA. If you install VGA driver software, you are installing this inside the operating system, not GRUB. Therefore, if this is a GRUB problem, the problem will still persist with GRUB, even after installing driver software. For your second question, this is a Kubuntu-only support centre. Ubuntu questions should be asked in _Ubuntu Forums _ or _Ask Ubuntu _. I hope this helps! In Christ, Ryan On 05/18/2012 08:13 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > > good morning > I am very new with linux. > > but I can use evolution and firefox and this is better than win > online > > my question: > I only can boot hardy > but not lucid or ocelot > it is a vga problem. > > > is f4 the right way? > > shall I mail lspci oder lshal? > > > > second question > is this a community for linux and ubuntu and xubuntu and so on > or only for kubuntu. > > thank your forwarf for help > > whysky > > > > > > --- Kaj Haulrich // schrieb am *Fr, 18.5.2012: > > > Von: Kaj Haulrich > Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO > An: "Kubuntu user technical support" > Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 07:08 Uhr > > On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote: > > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: > >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has > UEFI...It > >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the > >>> only HDD) > >> > >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put > >> grub on the EFI-partition. > > > > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual boot with > > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 > > I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from inside > Windows - sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' partition. Not > sure though, because first thing I do with a new computer is to > erase Windows completely. > > However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have to > create an EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put grub-efi on > it. On my system that is sda2. As far as I can tell there is no > way of getting rid of this UEFI rigmarole and revert to the good, > old BIOS. > > There is some further information here: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting > > Kaj Haulrich. > -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- > --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- > > -- kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > * > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From theuteck at gmail.com Fri May 18 14:18:09 2012 From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 09:18:09 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID In-Reply-To: <4FB657C3.5080701@gmail.com> References: <1337346808.70969.YahooMailClassic@web29603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4FB657C3.5080701@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Ryan Gauger wrote: > Good morning, Tobias. Very good questions you have. I think I can answer > the first half-way, and I am sure I can answer your second question. Do you > get past the boot screen with Oneiric and Lucid? In the boot screen (GRUB), > to boot into different operating systems (different versions of > Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc, Windows or other OS), when inside GRUB, select > between the different operating systems by using the down and up keys on > the keyboard. Then, press the enter/return key on the keyboard to boot the > selected operating system. Do you know this is a VGA problem? If so, I have > no clue how to solve this, unless you install drivers for VGA. If you > install VGA driver software, you are installing this inside the operating > system, not GRUB. Therefore, if this is a GRUB problem, the problem will > still persist with GRUB, even after installing driver software. > > For your second question, this is a Kubuntu-only support centre. Ubuntu > questions should be asked in *Ubuntu Forums * or > *Ask Ubuntu *. I hope this helps! > > In Christ, > Ryan > > > On 05/18/2012 08:13 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > > > good morning > I am very new with linux. > > but I can use evolution and firefox and this is better than win > online > > my question: > I only can boot hardy > but not lucid or ocelot > it is a vga problem. > > > is f4 the right way? > > shall I mail lspci oder lshal? > > > > second question > is this a community for linux and ubuntu and xubuntu and so on > or only for kubuntu. > > thank your forwarf for help > > whysky > > > > > > --- Kaj Haulrich * * schrieb am *Fr, > 18.5.2012: > > > Von: Kaj Haulrich > Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO > An: "Kubuntu user technical support" > Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 07:08 Uhr > > On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote: > > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: > >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It > >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the > >>> only HDD) > >> > >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put > >> grub on the EFI-partition. > > > > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual boot with > > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 > > I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from inside Windows - > sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' partition. Not sure though, > because first thing I do with a new computer is to erase Windows completely. > > However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have to create an > EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put grub-efi on it. On my system > that is sda2. As far as I can tell there is no way of getting rid of this > UEFI rigmarole and revert to the good, old BIOS. > > There is some further information here: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting > > Kaj Haulrich. > -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- > --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- > > -- kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > * > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Using F4 and selecting "nomodeset" may get it to boot for you. If that does work, then you will need to add that to /etc/default/grub. -- no .sig found Please restart your browser. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sales wrote: 2012/5/8 Richard Terry : > After many years I've relectantly decided to give up my kmail  and switch to > thunderbird, and I wondered if anyone had successfullyl imported the kmail > folders/messages, or if it was possible > > Regards > > richard As much as I can tell, there's no direct way to import your Kmail's maildir into Thunderbird's mbox store. However, you can do this A web search will yield many mbox to maildir converters, but I don't see anyone advertising maildir to mbox.  You would think someone would have done it. As I recall, I used kmail to convert to mbox.  I would create a new mail folder in maildir format and move all the files from the old, mbox, folder to the new one.  The conversion happened automatically. Perhaps this could work in reverse, too?  Kmail used to understand mbox.  If it still does, and can create a new mbox folder, you could copy the maildir emails to the mbox folder.  If that works, you should be able to have thunderbird use the mbox folder. Michael -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whyskyhigh at yahoo.de Fri May 18 14:51:29 2012 From: whyskyhigh at yahoo.de (tobias schwibingerr) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 15:51:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID In-Reply-To: <4FB657C3.5080701@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1337352689.32790.YahooMailClassic@web29602.mail.ird.yahoo.com> good afternoon ryan thank You for help. is it to custom here to write to all membersor call one person now ryan? the situation I put inlive CDSuSeBSDOcelot.... the machine is starting and running text modus.okthen linux is changing to grafik modethencrash black screen or frozen. hardy=no problemubuntu older than hardy also booting fine. why?I dont know.I suggest, hardy is checking vga before changing to grafikocelot does not check it and crash. Can You understand this? thank You for help whysky --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 16:08 Uhr Good morning, Tobias. Very good questions you have. I think I can answer the first half-way, and I am sure I can answer your second question. Do you get past the boot screen with Oneiric and Lucid? In the boot screen (GRUB), to boot into different operating systems (different versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc, Windows or other OS), when inside GRUB, select between the different operating systems by using the down and up keys on the keyboard. Then, press the enter/return key on the keyboard to boot the selected operating system. Do you know this is a VGA problem? If so, I have no clue how to solve this, unless you install drivers for VGA. If you install VGA driver software, you are installing this inside the operating system, not GRUB. Therefore, if this is a GRUB problem, the problem will still persist with GRUB, even after installing driver software. For your second question, this is a Kubuntu-only support centre. Ubuntu questions should be asked in Ubuntu Forums or Ask Ubuntu. I hope this helps! In Christ, Ryan On 05/18/2012 08:13 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: good morning I am very new with linux. but I can use evolution and firefox and this is better than win online my question: I only can boot hardy but not lucid or ocelot it is a vga problem. is f4 the right way? shall I mail lspci oder lshal? second question is this a community for linux and ubuntu and xubuntu and so on or only for kubuntu. thank your forwarf for help whysky --- Kaj Haulrich schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Kaj Haulrich Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO An: "Kubuntu user technical support" Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 07:08 Uhr On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote: > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the >>> only HDD) >> >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put >> grub on the EFI-partition. > > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual boot with > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from inside Windows - sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' partition. Not sure though, because first thing I do with a new computer is to erase Windows completely. However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have to create an EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put grub-efi on it. On my system that is sda2.  As far as I can tell there is no way of getting rid of this UEFI rigmarole and revert to the good, old BIOS. There is some further information here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rtgkid at gmail.com Fri May 18 15:35:45 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 10:35:45 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID In-Reply-To: <1337352689.32790.YahooMailClassic@web29602.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <1337352689.32790.YahooMailClassic@web29602.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FB66C51.6080503@gmail.com> On 05/18/2012 09:51 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > good afternoon ryan > > thank You for help. > > is it to custom here to write to all members > or call one person > now ryan? > > > > the situation > > I put in > live CD > SuSe > BSD > Ocelot.... > > the machine is starting and running text modus. > ok > then linux is changing to grafik mode > then > crash black screen > > or frozen. > > > > hardy=no problem > ubuntu older than hardy also booting fine. > > why? > I dont know. > I suggest, hardy is checking vga before changing to grafik > ocelot does not check it and crash. > > Can You understand this? > > thank You for help > > > whysky > > > > > > --- Ryan Gauger // schrieb am *Fr, 18.5.2012: > > > Von: Ryan Gauger > Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID > An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 16:08 Uhr > > Good morning, Tobias. Very good questions you have. I think I can > answer the first half-way, and I am sure I can answer your second > question. Do you get past the boot screen with Oneiric and Lucid? > In the boot screen (GRUB), to boot into different operating > systems (different versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc, Windows > or other OS), when inside GRUB, select between the different > operating systems by using the down and up keys on the keyboard. > Then, press the enter/return key on the keyboard to boot the > selected operating system. Do you know this is a VGA problem? If > so, I have no clue how to solve this, unless you install drivers > for VGA. If you install VGA driver software, you are installing > this inside the operating system, not GRUB. Therefore, if this is > a GRUB problem, the problem will still persist with GRUB, even > after installing driver software. > > For your second question, this is a Kubuntu-only support centre. > Ubuntu questions should be asked in _Ubuntu Forums_ or _Ask > Ubuntu_. I hope this helps! > > In Christ, > Ryan > > On 05/18/2012 08:13 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: >> >> good morning >> I am very new with linux. >> >> but I can use evolution and firefox and this is better than win >> online >> >> my question: >> I only can boot hardy >> but not lucid or ocelot >> it is a vga problem. >> >> >> is f4 the right way? >> >> shall I mail lspci oder lshal? >> >> >> >> second question >> is this a community for linux and ubuntu and xubuntu and so on >> or only for kubuntu. >> >> thank your forwarf for help >> >> whysky >> >> >> >> >> >> --- Kaj Haulrich / >> / schrieb am *Fr, 18.5.2012: >> >> >> Von: Kaj Haulrich >> >> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO >> An: "Kubuntu user technical support" >> >> >> Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 07:08 Uhr >> >> On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote: >> > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: >> >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: >> >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has >> UEFI...It >> >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on >> sda (the >> >>> only HDD) >> >> >> >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the >> installer to put >> >> grub on the EFI-partition. >> > >> > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual >> boot with >> > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 >> >> I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from >> inside Windows - sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' >> partition. Not sure though, because first thing I do with a >> new computer is to erase Windows completely. >> >> However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have >> to create an EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put >> grub-efi on it. On my system that is sda2. As far as I can >> tell there is no way of getting rid of this UEFI rigmarole >> and revert to the good, old BIOS. >> >> There is some further information here: >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting >> >> Kaj Haulrich. >> -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- >> --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- >> >> -- kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> * >> >> >> > > -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > * > > > Good afternoon, I hope your day is going well. I usually will reply-all, if that is what you mean. This is because other people on the list can see my emails and if I say something wrong or incorrect, they can reply and correct it. I also do it just so everybody is in the loop on what is going on. If Oneiric (and newer) crash after trying to boot, and hardy (and older) boot fine, then it must be an internal error, or an error that is in the system when Oneiric/newer boots. It may very well be the VGA problem as you suggest. I have never experienced this, so I am able to give you information to the best of my abilities without being able to see what you are seeing, so if I don't solve the problem or figure out an answer, I am sorry. Does Persistent boot? Persistent is the newest stable version of Kubuntu. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Fri May 18 16:20:45 2012 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis Linux) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 18:20:45 +0200 Subject: PPC lubuntu crachses with internet browsers Message-ID: Hello, My dadś ppc G4 usus Lubuntu now and if he wants to use a internet browser the system gets a error. When Firefox is used the error is 'The object /dev/fb0/ doesn't excist' Starting pbbuttonsd and so on. So i installed an other browser and there was also an error, again i saw pbbuttonsd in the line. Does anybody kwon how to use a browser and itś workable? Dennis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From theuteck at gmail.com Fri May 18 16:33:28 2012 From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:33:28 -0500 Subject: PPC lubuntu crachses with internet browsers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Dennis Linux wrote: > Hello, > > My dadś ppc G4 usus Lubuntu now and if he wants to use a internet browser > the system gets a error. When Firefox is used the error is 'The object > /dev/fb0/ doesn't excist' Starting pbbuttonsd and so on. > So i installed an other browser and there was also an error, again i saw > pbbuttonsd in the line. > Does anybody kwon how to use a browser and itś workable? > > Dennis > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > What video driver and kernel are you using? My PPC had problems with Nouvou after an upgrade installed it and removed the old NV driver and the display looked very grainy. -- no .sig found Please restart your browser. From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat May 19 02:54:17 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 12:54:17 +1000 Subject: Importiing thunderbird OLD WIN to Thunderbird new linux?possible ? In-Reply-To: <1337352439.86827.YahooMailClassic@web29606.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <1337352439.86827.YahooMailClassic@web29606.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FB70B59.6080400@iinet.net.au> On 19/05/12 00:47, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > > good afternoon > > is it possible to import > thunderbird mails and ids > from > > thunderbird win? > > I did make with win xp and mozback a file as backup. > can I import this to linux thunderbird? > Yes. Read this on how to do it: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_from_Windows_to_Linux but also look here for possibly more info: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Knowledge_Base BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.3.6 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat May 19 03:01:42 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 13:01:42 +1000 Subject: [precise] k9copy: unable to open /dev/sr0 In-Reply-To: <4FB5D9ED.1080003@optonline.net> References: <4FB532C7.8090406@gmail.com> <4FB5B4B7.4040909@iinet.net.au> <4FB5D07B.4020104@gmail.com> <4FB5D6CD.8000608@iinet.net.au> <4FB5D9ED.1080003@optonline.net> Message-ID: <4FB70D16.4020202@iinet.net.au> On 18/05/12 15:11, Doug wrote: > On 05/18/2012 12:57 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 18/05/12 14:30, D. R. Evans wrote: >>> Basil Chupin said the following at 05/17/2012 08:32 PM : >>>> On 18/05/12 03:17, D. R. Evans wrote: >>>>> After installing precise, k9copy tells me that it cannot open >>>>> /dev/sr0. >>>> What exactly do you mean by this? >>> When I run k9copy and say "Open", it responds with "cannot open disc >>> /dev/sr0". >>> >>>> What happens when - without k9copy running! - you insert a DVD into >>>> the >>>> drive - does the menu come up (bottom right) "asking" you what you >>>> want >>>> to do with the DVD and is the option to use k9copy there? >>>> >>> Yes. >> >> I guess what I meant to add earlier was: what happens if you select >> k9copy form this menu - does k9copy start but then it cannot open >> sr0, right? >> >> A most interesting puzzle :-) . I know that k9copy is no longer >> supported - the author gave up trying to maintain it over 12 months >> ago - but even so it should at least recognise and open disc in sr0. >> >> OK, have you tried running k9copy in a terminal? Often this may show >> what may be causing the problem. >> >> Have you looked at the logs in /var/log/ ? >> >> How about ~/.kde4/share/config/K9copy to see if there is anything >> here which looks "not quite right"? >> >> Finally, have you tried creating a new user and trying out k9copy as >> this user? >> >> [..........] >> >> BC >> > Maybe your dog could open it? Reminds me of one of the Pink Panther films where Inspector Jacques Clouseau, played by Peter Sellers, is in the foyer of the little hotel he is staying at and as he is about to walk of the hotel he sees a dog sleeping across the entrance. He turns to the owner of the hotel, who is reading a paper behind the counter, and asks him, "Does your dog bite?" to which the owner says, "No.". So Clouseau bends down to pat the dog and the dog bites his hand. Clouseau says, with some annoyance, to the owner, "I thought you said your dog doesn't bite!" and the owner replies, "This is not my dog." BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.3.6 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From whyskyhigh at yahoo.de Sat May 19 08:03:26 2012 From: whyskyhigh at yahoo.de (tobias schwibingerr) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 09:03:26 +0100 (BST) Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: <4FB66C51.6080503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1337414606.1976.YahooMailClassic@web29601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> good morning ryanthank You for Your friendly answer. Is there a way to interrupt the booting and tell hey computer my graphik card is may only   1000 pointsyou need  1000000 maybe hd can You tell linuxto change his ask for the monitor? thank You whysky the problem ist not generic or so is one version older hardyand all other systems like SuSe crash even old versions. another question:can I use ubuntu kubuntu xubuntuwith very old alptop12 years oldbought with win me. can I user ocelot? what is difference lucid and ocelotbecausejanuary 2012 both are new. what does mean: Hardy has no support but ocelot has supportis it likegates gives support win 7 but noch win 98? PSis it possible to boot kubuntu in text modus? --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 17:35 Uhr On 05/18/2012 09:51 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: good afternoon ryan thank You for help. is it to custom here to write to all members or call one person  now ryan? the situation I put in live CD SuSe BSD Ocelot.... the machine is starting and running text modus. ok then linux is changing to grafik mode then crash black screen or frozen. hardy=no problem ubuntu older than hardy also booting fine. why? I dont know. I suggest, hardy is checking vga before changing to grafik ocelot does not check it and crash. Can You understand this? thank You for help whysky --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 16:08 Uhr Good morning, Tobias. Very good questions you have. I think I can answer the first half-way, and I am sure I can answer your second question. Do you get past the boot screen with Oneiric and Lucid? In the boot screen (GRUB), to boot into different operating systems (different versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc, Windows or other OS), when inside GRUB, select between the different operating systems by using the down and up keys on the keyboard. Then, press the enter/return key on the keyboard to boot the selected operating system. Do you know this is a VGA problem? If so, I have no clue how to solve this, unless you install drivers for VGA. If you install VGA driver software, you are installing this inside the operating system, not GRUB. Therefore, if this is a GRUB problem, the problem will still persist with GRUB, even after installing driver software. For your second question, this is a Kubuntu-only support centre. Ubuntu questions should be asked in Ubuntu Forums or Ask Ubuntu. I hope this helps! In Christ, Ryan On 05/18/2012 08:13 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: good morning I am very new with linux. but I can use evolution and firefox and this is better than win online my question: I only can boot hardy but not lucid or ocelot it is a vga problem. is f4 the right way? shall I mail lspci oder lshal? second question is this a community for linux and ubuntu and xubuntu and so on or only for kubuntu. thank your forwarf for help whysky --- Kaj Haulrich schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Kaj Haulrich Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO An: "Kubuntu user technical support" Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 07:08 Uhr On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote: > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the >>> only HDD) >> >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put >> grub on the EFI-partition. > > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual boot with > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from inside Windows - sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' partition. Not sure though, because first thing I do with a new computer is to erase Windows completely. However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have to create an EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put grub-efi on it. On my system that is sda2.  As far as I can tell there is no way of getting rid of this UEFI rigmarole and revert to the good, old BIOS. There is some further information here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Good afternoon, I hope your day is going well. I usually will reply-all, if that is what you mean. This is because other people on the list can see my emails and if I say something wrong or incorrect, they can reply and correct it. I also do it just so everybody is in the loop on what is going on. If Oneiric (and newer) crash after trying to boot, and hardy (and older) boot fine, then it must be an internal error, or an error that is in the system when Oneiric/newer boots. It may very well be the VGA problem as you suggest. I have never experienced this, so I am able to give you information to the best of my abilities without being able to see what you are seeing, so if I don't solve the problem or figure out an answer, I am sorry. Does Persistent boot? Persistent is the newest stable version of Kubuntu. Thanks! -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't mind pausing it once in a while, but hesitate to go through all the BS involved in totally killing it off my system. Explanations, please?   Stan Reality is the illusion! http://postorbitaldesign.net/ http://ecfield.deviantart.com/ http://mentilucent.net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat May 19 12:09:44 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 14:09:44 +0200 Subject: Nepomonk freezing browser In-Reply-To: <1337428400.1893.YahooMailNeo@web161703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1337428400.1893.YahooMailNeo@web161703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FB78D88.7040408@gmail.com> On 19/05/12 13:53, cherryfinals wrote: > I did my usual hard drive replacement and virgin install of Kubuntu from > a CD shortly after it was released. Since then, I've been mostly happy > with it. > > The one problem that has bugged me is the fact that Nepomuk spends a lot > of time indexing and when it does, I can see the CPU usage on my > four-core AMD running at 60% to 100% and when I try to browse to a new > page in Firefox, it sometimes take ten minutes or more. > > If I pause indexing, everything appears to work properly. > > I have seen a bunch of discussions on Nepomuk over the last year or so, > but haven't seen an explanation as to what the heck it is supposed to do > for us and if it is a critical item, why hasn't it been fixed in all > this time? > > I don't mind pausing it once in a while, but hesitate to go through all > the BS involved in totally killing it off my system. > You can simply switch off Desktop Search in System Settings and the CPU will quiet down. But what I did was to increase allowed memory usage (advanced tab in Desktop Search settings) to 350 Mb and since then my problems have been very few. Sinclair From rtgkid at gmail.com Sat May 19 12:52:54 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 07:52:54 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: <1337414606.1976.YahooMailClassic@web29601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <1337414606.1976.YahooMailClassic@web29601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <69F02EF7-8DCB-4406-974C-B0F8107F3FDE@gmail.com> Good morning, Tobias. I don't think there is a way to interrupt the boot unless you were to use command line (which I am not good with at all unless it is sudo). Your suggestion would probably work if you could figure out how to interrupt boot. For your second question, yes. You can install Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu on an old laptop. Since you are new with Linux, you printable don't know about Lubuntu, which would be your best option for doing this. Ubuntu/Kubuntu are resource-hungry. For this reason, I do not recommend installing these on an old computer or laptop. Xubuntu will work, since XFCE is not resource-hungry. Allow me to introduce Lubuntu to you, to make things even more complicated. Lubuntu uses the LXDE desktop environment, which is extremely lightweight, and is not resource-hungry at all. Lubuntu is known for working on laptops/computers so old that Windows doesn't even work anymore on them. You can install Lubuntu alongside Windows ME, or completely erase the hard drive and install Lubuntu, allowing Lubuntu to take up the whole drive. I think I've made this email long enough for now. Sorry :) Thanks! In Christ, Ryan On May 19, 2012, at 3:03 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > > > > good morning ryan > thank You for Your friendly answer. > > Is there a way to interrupt the booting > and tell > > hey computer my graphik card is may only 1000 points > you need 1000000 maybe hd > can You tell linux > to change his ask for the monitor? > > > thank You > > whysky > > the problem ist not generic or so is one version older hardy > and all other systems like SuSe crash even old versions. > > > another question: > can I use ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu > with very old alptop > 12 years old > bought with win me. > > can I user ocelot? > > > what is difference lucid and ocelot > because > january 2012 both are new. > > what does mean: Hardy has no support but ocelot has support > is it like > gates gives support win 7 but noch win 98? > > > PS > is it possible > to boot kubuntu in text modus? > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: > > Von: Ryan Gauger > Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID > An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 17:35 Uhr > > On 05/18/2012 09:51 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: >> >> good afternoon ryan >> >> thank You for help. >> >> is it to custom here to write to all members >> or call one person >> now ryan? >> >> >> >> the situation >> >> I put in >> live CD >> SuSe >> BSD >> Ocelot.... >> >> the machine is starting and running text modus. >> ok >> then linux is changing to grafik mode >> then >> crash black screen >> >> or frozen. >> >> >> >> hardy=no problem >> ubuntu older than hardy also booting fine. >> >> why? >> I dont know. >> I suggest, hardy is checking vga before changing to grafik >> ocelot does not check it and crash. >> >> Can You understand this? >> >> thank You for help >> >> >> whysky >> >> >> >> >> >> --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: >> >> Von: Ryan Gauger >> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID >> An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 16:08 Uhr >> >> Good morning, Tobias. Very good questions you have. I think I can answer the first half-way, and I am sure I can answer your second question. Do you get past the boot screen with Oneiric and Lucid? In the boot screen (GRUB), to boot into different operating systems (different versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc, Windows or other OS), when inside GRUB, select between the different operating systems by using the down and up keys on the keyboard. Then, press the enter/return key on the keyboard to boot the selected operating system. Do you know this is a VGA problem? If so, I have no clue how to solve this, unless you install drivers for VGA. If you install VGA driver software, you are installing this inside the operating system, not GRUB. Therefore, if this is a GRUB problem, the problem will still persist with GRUB, even after installing driver software. >> >> For your second question, this is a Kubuntu-only support centre. Ubuntu questions should be asked in Ubuntu Forums or Ask Ubuntu. I hope this helps! >> >> In Christ, >> Ryan >> >> On 05/18/2012 08:13 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: >>> >>> >>> good morning >>> I am very new with linux. >>> >>> but I can use evolution and firefox and this is better than win >>> online >>> >>> my question: >>> I only can boot hardy >>> but not lucid or ocelot >>> it is a vga problem. >>> >>> >>> is f4 the right way? >>> >>> shall I mail lspci oder lshal? >>> >>> >>> >>> second question >>> is this a community for linux and ubuntu and xubuntu and so on >>> or only for kubuntu. >>> >>> thank your forwarf for help >>> >>> whysky >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- Kaj Haulrich schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: >>> >>> Von: Kaj Haulrich >>> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO >>> An: "Kubuntu user technical support" >>> Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 07:08 Uhr >>> >>> On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote: >>> > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: >>> >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: >>> >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It >>> >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the >>> >>> only HDD) >>> >> >>> >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put >>> >> grub on the EFI-partition. >>> > >>> > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual boot with >>> > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 >>> >>> I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from inside Windows - sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' partition. Not sure though, because first thing I do with a new computer is to erase Windows completely. >>> >>> However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have to create an EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put grub-efi on it. On my system that is sda2. As far as I can tell there is no way of getting rid of this UEFI rigmarole and revert to the good, old BIOS. >>> >>> There is some further information here: >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting >>> >>> Kaj Haulrich. >>> -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- >>> --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- >>> >>> -- kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> >>> >> >> -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > Good afternoon, I hope your day is going well. I usually will reply-all, if that is what you mean. This is because other people on the list can see my emails and if I say something wrong or incorrect, they can reply and correct it. I also do it just so everybody is in the loop on what is going on. > > If Oneiric (and newer) crash after trying to boot, and hardy (and older) boot fine, then it must be an internal error, or an error that is in the system when Oneiric/newer boots. It may very well be the VGA problem as you suggest. I have never experienced this, so I am able to give you information to the best of my abilities without being able to see what you are seeing, so if I don't solve the problem or figure out an answer, I am sorry. Does Persistent boot? Persistent is the newest stable version of Kubuntu. Thanks! > > -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rtgkid at gmail.com Sat May 19 13:01:04 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 08:01:04 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: <1337414606.1976.YahooMailClassic@web29601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <1337414606.1976.YahooMailClassic@web29601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <62C8BC35-0C3A-4390-B2A2-374727607E2D@gmail.com> I forgot to answer one of your questions: yes, it is possible to boot Kubuntu in text mode, but I am not very good with it (knowledge-wise). The only difference between Lucid and Oneiric is that they are two different versions of Kubuntu. Between Lucid and Oneiric, Maverick and Natty were released. What it means by Oneiric has support but Hardy doesn't means that Oneiric knows how to deal with the hardware you are referring to. Hardy doesn't know what to do with the hardware you are referring to. Thanks! In Christ, Ryan On May 19, 2012, at 3:03 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > > > > good morning ryan > thank You for Your friendly answer. > > Is there a way to interrupt the booting > and tell > > hey computer my graphik card is may only 1000 points > you need 1000000 maybe hd > can You tell linux > to change his ask for the monitor? > > > thank You > > whysky > > the problem ist not generic or so is one version older hardy > and all other systems like SuSe crash even old versions. > > > another question: > can I use ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu > with very old alptop > 12 years old > bought with win me. > > can I user ocelot? > > > what is difference lucid and ocelot > because > january 2012 both are new. > > what does mean: Hardy has no support but ocelot has support > is it like > gates gives support win 7 but noch win 98? > > > PS > is it possible > to boot kubuntu in text modus? > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: > > Von: Ryan Gauger > Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID > An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 17:35 Uhr > > On 05/18/2012 09:51 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: >> >> good afternoon ryan >> >> thank You for help. >> >> is it to custom here to write to all members >> or call one person >> now ryan? >> >> >> >> the situation >> >> I put in >> live CD >> SuSe >> BSD >> Ocelot.... >> >> the machine is starting and running text modus. >> ok >> then linux is changing to grafik mode >> then >> crash black screen >> >> or frozen. >> >> >> >> hardy=no problem >> ubuntu older than hardy also booting fine. >> >> why? >> I dont know. >> I suggest, hardy is checking vga before changing to grafik >> ocelot does not check it and crash. >> >> Can You understand this? >> >> thank You for help >> >> >> whysky >> >> >> >> >> >> --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: >> >> Von: Ryan Gauger >> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID >> An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 16:08 Uhr >> >> Good morning, Tobias. Very good questions you have. I think I can answer the first half-way, and I am sure I can answer your second question. Do you get past the boot screen with Oneiric and Lucid? In the boot screen (GRUB), to boot into different operating systems (different versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc, Windows or other OS), when inside GRUB, select between the different operating systems by using the down and up keys on the keyboard. Then, press the enter/return key on the keyboard to boot the selected operating system. Do you know this is a VGA problem? If so, I have no clue how to solve this, unless you install drivers for VGA. If you install VGA driver software, you are installing this inside the operating system, not GRUB. Therefore, if this is a GRUB problem, the problem will still persist with GRUB, even after installing driver software. >> >> For your second question, this is a Kubuntu-only support centre. Ubuntu questions should be asked in Ubuntu Forums or Ask Ubuntu. I hope this helps! >> >> In Christ, >> Ryan >> >> On 05/18/2012 08:13 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: >>> >>> >>> good morning >>> I am very new with linux. >>> >>> but I can use evolution and firefox and this is better than win >>> online >>> >>> my question: >>> I only can boot hardy >>> but not lucid or ocelot >>> it is a vga problem. >>> >>> >>> is f4 the right way? >>> >>> shall I mail lspci oder lshal? >>> >>> >>> >>> second question >>> is this a community for linux and ubuntu and xubuntu and so on >>> or only for kubuntu. >>> >>> thank your forwarf for help >>> >>> whysky >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- Kaj Haulrich schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: >>> >>> Von: Kaj Haulrich >>> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO >>> An: "Kubuntu user technical support" >>> Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 07:08 Uhr >>> >>> On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote: >>> > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: >>> >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: >>> >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It >>> >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the >>> >>> only HDD) >>> >> >>> >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put >>> >> grub on the EFI-partition. >>> > >>> > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual boot with >>> > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 >>> >>> I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from inside Windows - sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' partition. Not sure though, because first thing I do with a new computer is to erase Windows completely. >>> >>> However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have to create an EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put grub-efi on it. On my system that is sda2. As far as I can tell there is no way of getting rid of this UEFI rigmarole and revert to the good, old BIOS. >>> >>> There is some further information here: >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting >>> >>> Kaj Haulrich. >>> -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- >>> --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- >>> >>> -- kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> >>> >> >> -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > Good afternoon, I hope your day is going well. I usually will reply-all, if that is what you mean. This is because other people on the list can see my emails and if I say something wrong or incorrect, they can reply and correct it. I also do it just so everybody is in the loop on what is going on. > > If Oneiric (and newer) crash after trying to boot, and hardy (and older) boot fine, then it must be an internal error, or an error that is in the system when Oneiric/newer boots. It may very well be the VGA problem as you suggest. I have never experienced this, so I am able to give you information to the best of my abilities without being able to see what you are seeing, so if I don't solve the problem or figure out an answer, I am sorry. Does Persistent boot? Persistent is the newest stable version of Kubuntu. Thanks! > > -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Sat May 19 19:53:09 2012 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 12:53:09 -0700 Subject: Printer Problem Message-ID: <20120519195309.GA14752@xpresso.seaslug.org> Howdy folks; Ok, running 10.04 with a relatively new, "HP Officejet 6500A Plus." I'm trying to print out a huge-mongous file. For the curious, its the, "StdLib Reference Manual", for the HLA Assembler. The stack of paper is allready well over 4 inches tall. I can handle it when it runs out of paper, as the printer is rather well behaved about pausing for that. Whats getting my goat is when the cartridge starts running out of ink, its rather difficult to be right on top of it, as it very slowly fades out to finally blank pages. I have a 1/2" stack of now useless paper left over from the last time. Ok, so here's the question. Does kde, (or anything else for that matter), have a printer util that can cause a printer to pause in the middle of a print job, and then let you back up in the file to before things started getting flakey, and restart the print job from there? After I've changed the ink cartridge during the pause, that is. It seems to me that swaping out ribbons and cartridges etc. would be such a common place sort of thing, that someone somewhere would have created something like that, but who/what/where? Bill From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sun May 20 02:59:18 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 12:59:18 +1000 Subject: Printer Problem In-Reply-To: <20120519195309.GA14752@xpresso.seaslug.org> References: <20120519195309.GA14752@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <4FB85E06.6000702@iinet.net.au> On 20/05/12 05:53, Bill Vance wrote: > Howdy folks; > > Ok, running 10.04 with a relatively new, "HP Officejet > 6500A Plus." I'm trying to print out a huge-mongous > file. For the curious, its the, "StdLib Reference > Manual", for the HLA Assembler. The stack of paper is > allready well over 4 inches tall. I can handle it when > it runs out of paper, as the printer is rather well > behaved about pausing for that. Whats getting my goat > is when the cartridge starts running out of ink, its > rather difficult to be right on top of it, as it very > slowly fades out to finally blank pages. I have a 1/2" > stack of now useless paper left over from the last time. > > Ok, so here's the question. Does kde, (or anything > else for that matter), have a printer util that can > cause a printer to pause in the middle of a print job, > and then let you back up in the file to before things > started getting flakey, and restart the print job from > there? After I've changed the ink cartridge during > the pause, that is. > > It seems to me that swaping out ribbons and cartridges > etc. would be such a common place sort of thing, that > someone somewhere would have created something like > that, but who/what/where? > > Bill Don't take my word for it, but I suspect that there is no such thing under KDE (or any other DE) because it is the driver from HP which controls the printer. On the taskbar you should have a widget with "hp" in it. This should be installed when your printer was detected during installation of 10.04. If you right click on this widget you will get a menu 'HP Device Manager' which contains a tab which shows you the state of your cartridges. During printing keep an eye on this and stop the printer when you see the levels reach critical levels. (BTW, there is a trick I read somewhere but cannot remember where which concerns the levels of cartridges for printers. Basically, the trick talks about that the manufacturers make you buy a new cartridge when there is quite a bit of ink still left in the cartridge, and the trick was to reset the cartridge so that it "sees" this remaining ink. If I recall correctly, it has something to do with using a paper-clip to push in some pin (just like you do with a CDROM reader to open the platter in an emergency. Do a search on the web re this.) BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.3.6 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Sun May 20 05:54:19 2012 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 08:54:19 +0300 Subject: Printer Problem In-Reply-To: <20120519195309.GA14752@xpresso.seaslug.org> References: <20120519195309.GA14752@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <4FB8870B.3070002@whamra.com> On 05/19/2012 10:53 PM, Bill Vance wrote: > > Howdy folks; > > Ok, running 10.04 with a relatively new, "HP Officejet > 6500A Plus." I'm trying to print out a huge-mongous > file. For the curious, its the, "StdLib Reference > Manual", for the HLA Assembler. The stack of paper is > allready well over 4 inches tall. I can handle it when > it runs out of paper, as the printer is rather well > behaved about pausing for that. Whats getting my goat > is when the cartridge starts running out of ink, its > rather difficult to be right on top of it, as it very > slowly fades out to finally blank pages. I have a 1/2" > stack of now useless paper left over from the last time. > > Ok, so here's the question. Does kde, (or anything > else for that matter), have a printer util that can > cause a printer to pause in the middle of a print job, > and then let you back up in the file to before things > started getting flakey, and restart the print job from > there? After I've changed the ink cartridge during > the pause, that is. > > It seems to me that swaping out ribbons and cartridges > etc. would be such a common place sort of thing, that > someone somewhere would have created something like > that, but who/what/where? > not sure i know of any way, but how about pulling the paper out? that'll cause it to pause. if it has a drawer, or some sort of door, most printers will pause if you open them, and display a warning asking you to close the door back. of course, this is assuming you're beside the printer, and watching when things start getting flakey. -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Sun May 20 06:27:45 2012 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 02:27:45 -0400 Subject: Printer Problem In-Reply-To: <4FB8870B.3070002@whamra.com> References: <20120519195309.GA14752@xpresso.seaslug.org> <4FB8870B.3070002@whamra.com> Message-ID: <4FB88EE1.3030108@optonline.net> On 05/20/2012 01:54 AM, Waleed Hamra wrote: > On 05/19/2012 10:53 PM, Bill Vance wrote: >> Howdy folks; >> >> Ok, running 10.04 with a relatively new, "HP Officejet >> 6500A Plus." I'm trying to print out a huge-mongous >> file. For the curious, its the, "StdLib Reference >> Manual", for the HLA Assembler. The stack of paper is >> allready well over 4 inches tall. I can handle it when >> it runs out of paper, as the printer is rather well >> behaved about pausing for that. Whats getting my goat >> is when the cartridge starts running out of ink, its >> rather difficult to be right on top of it, as it very >> slowly fades out to finally blank pages. I have a 1/2" >> stack of now useless paper left over from the last time. >> >> Ok, so here's the question. Does kde, (or anything >> else for that matter), have a printer util that can >> cause a printer to pause in the middle of a print job, >> and then let you back up in the file to before things >> started getting flakey, and restart the print job from >> there? After I've changed the ink cartridge during >> the pause, that is. >> >> It seems to me that swaping out ribbons and cartridges >> etc. would be such a common place sort of thing, that >> someone somewhere would have created something like >> that, but who/what/where? >> > not sure i know of any way, but how about pulling the paper out? that'll > cause it to pause. if it has a drawer, or some sort of door, most > printers will pause if you open them, and display a warning asking you > to close the door back. > of course, this is assuming you're beside the printer, and watching when > things start getting flakey. It would seem that most times you would be printing from a pdf (or if not, you might be able to create one from whatever text you do have) and to print pdfs, you always have the opportunity to print a selected group of pages, so you could print, say 50 pages, look at the output, and then start at page 51, and so on to continue. That way you wouldn't have to baby-sit the printer, you could go and have lunch or something, and look at the output at your convenience. Not ideal, but better than nothing. --doug > > From kassube at gmx.net Sun May 20 09:08:54 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 11:08:54 +0200 Subject: Printer Problem In-Reply-To: <20120519195309.GA14752@xpresso.seaslug.org> References: <20120519195309.GA14752@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <201205201108.55023.kassube@gmx.net> Bill Vance wrote: > Ok, so here's the question. Does kde, (or anything > else for that matter), have a printer util that can > cause a printer to pause in the middle of a print job, > and then let you back up in the file to before things > started getting flakey, and restart the print job from > there? After I've changed the ink cartridge during > the pause, that is. Just an idea and I don't know if it works because I'm not inclined to create a big print job to test it. You could go to the cups interface at and check if there is an option to pause the current print job. Another option is the HP toolbox coming with the package "hplip-gui". With that tool you could check the ink levels before you start the print job. Nils From cherryfinals at yahoo.com Sun May 20 12:36:51 2012 From: cherryfinals at yahoo.com (cherryfinals) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 05:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Image Gallery tool gone? Message-ID: <1337517411.65795.YahooMailNeo@web161702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I have been using the Create image gallery tool in Konquerer for several years and was shocked to see it isn't there in my 11.4 installation. Any info I've been able to find on it dates back to 2008 or older. It would be nice if Dolphin had such a tool, but that appears to be way too much to hope for. Any suggestions? BTW - Thanks for the tips on Nepomuk. I finally just killed it off as a total waste of disk space and resources.   Stan Reality is the illusion! http://postorbitaldesign.net/ http://ecfield.deviantart.com/ http://mentilucent.net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sun May 20 13:07:41 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 23:07:41 +1000 Subject: Image Gallery tool gone? In-Reply-To: <1337517411.65795.YahooMailNeo@web161702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1337517411.65795.YahooMailNeo@web161702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FB8EC9D.8090509@iinet.net.au> On 20/05/12 22:36, cherryfinals wrote: > I have been using the Create image gallery tool in Konquerer The name of 'Create' is not enough to identify which application you are talking about. There are several which available to be used for the purpose I think you are talking about. Digikam is one such tool. But which one exactly are you talking about - give the exact name of the application. > for several years and was shocked to see it isn't there in my 11.4 > installation. > > Any info I've been able to find on it dates back to 2008 or older. > > It would be nice if Dolphin had such a tool, but that appears to be > way too much to hope for. In Dolphin you can have a number of picture display and editing tools - the default seems to be Gwenview on some systems but you can set this to something of your choice. So, once again, tell us what you mean by "Create image gallery" in you opening sentence. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.3.6 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sun May 20 13:13:37 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 23:13:37 +1000 Subject: Image Gallery tool gone? In-Reply-To: <4FB8EC9D.8090509@iinet.net.au> References: <1337517411.65795.YahooMailNeo@web161702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4FB8EC9D.8090509@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FB8EE01.8020105@iinet.net.au> On 20/05/12 23:07, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 20/05/12 22:36, cherryfinals wrote: >> I have been using the Create image gallery tool in Konquerer > > The name of 'Create' is not enough to identify which application you > are talking about. > > There are several which available to be used for the purpose I think > you are talking about. > > Digikam is one such tool. > > But which one exactly are you talking about - give the exact name of > the application. > > >> for several years and was shocked to see it isn't there in my 11.4 >> installation. >> >> Any info I've been able to find on it dates back to 2008 or older. >> >> It would be nice if Dolphin had such a tool, but that appears to be >> way too much to hope for. > > In Dolphin you can have a number of picture display and editing tools > - the default seems to be Gwenview on some systems but you can set > this to something of your choice. > > So, once again, tell us what you mean by "Create image gallery" in you > opening sentence. > > BC Just an addendum to the above. Did you mean the application called 'kdeaddons3-konqueror' when you mentioned Image Gallery tool? If so then it is still there. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.3.6 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From kaj at haulrich.net Sun May 20 13:18:13 2012 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 15:18:13 +0200 Subject: Image Gallery tool gone? In-Reply-To: <1337517411.65795.YahooMailNeo@web161702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1337517411.65795.YahooMailNeo@web161702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FB8EF15.1090204@haulrich.net> On 05/20/2012 02:36 PM, cherryfinals wrote: > I have been using the Create image gallery tool in Konquerer for several > years and was shocked to see it isn't there in my 11.4 installation. > > Any info I've been able to find on it dates back to 2008 or older. > > It would be nice if Dolphin had such a tool, but that appears to be way > too much to hope for. > > Any suggestions? Yes, install kipi-plugins: 'sudo apt-get install kipi-plugins' It runs in dolphin, gwenview and konqueror under : plugins --> export as html. Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- From whyskyhigh at yahoo.de Sun May 20 13:30:38 2012 From: whyskyhigh at yahoo.de (tobias schwibingerr) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 14:30:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: <62C8BC35-0C3A-4390-B2A2-374727607E2D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1337520638.81515.YahooMailClassic@web29602.mail.ird.yahoo.com> good afternoonthank You for help hardy is fineocelot and lucid has problems.what is the differencewhen every six months there aretwo kubuntusoctobre 2011 lucid and ocelot? thank You have a relaxed sunday whysky --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Sa, 19.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details An: "Kubuntu user technical support" CC: "Kubuntu user technical support" Datum: Samstag, 19. Mai, 2012 15:01 Uhr I forgot to answer one of your questions: yes, it is possible to boot Kubuntu in text mode, but I am not very good with it (knowledge-wise). The only difference between Lucid and Oneiric is that they are two different versions of Kubuntu. Between Lucid and Oneiric, Maverick and Natty were released. What it means by Oneiric has support but Hardy doesn't means that Oneiric knows how to deal with the hardware you are referring to. Hardy doesn't know what to do with the hardware you are referring to. Thanks! In Christ,Ryan  On May 19, 2012, at 3:03 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: good morning ryanthank You for Your friendly answer. Is there a way to interrupt the booting and tell hey computer my graphik card is may only   1000 pointsyou need  1000000 maybe hd can You tell linuxto change his ask for the monitor? thank You whysky the problem ist not generic or so is one version older hardyand all other systems like SuSe crash even old versions. another question:can I use ubuntu kubuntu xubuntuwith very old alptop12 years oldbought with win me. can I user ocelot? what is difference lucid and ocelotbecausejanuary 2012 both are new. what does mean: Hardy has no support but ocelot has supportis it likegates gives support win 7 but noch win 98? PSis it possible to boot kubuntu in text modus? --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 17:35 Uhr On 05/18/2012 09:51 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: good afternoon ryan thank You for help. is it to custom here to write to all members or call one person  now ryan? the situation I put in live CD SuSe BSD Ocelot.... the machine is starting and running text modus. ok then linux is changing to grafik mode then crash black screen or frozen. hardy=no problem ubuntu older than hardy also booting fine. why? I dont know. I suggest, hardy is checking vga before changing to grafik ocelot does not check it and crash. Can You understand this? thank You for help whysky --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 16:08 Uhr Good morning, Tobias. Very good questions you have. I think I can answer the first half-way, and I am sure I can answer your second question. Do you get past the boot screen with Oneiric and Lucid? In the boot screen (GRUB), to boot into different operating systems (different versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc, Windows or other OS), when inside GRUB, select between the different operating systems by using the down and up keys on the keyboard. Then, press the enter/return key on the keyboard to boot the selected operating system. Do you know this is a VGA problem? If so, I have no clue how to solve this, unless you install drivers for VGA. If you install VGA driver software, you are installing this inside the operating system, not GRUB. Therefore, if this is a GRUB problem, the problem will still persist with GRUB, even after installing driver software. For your second question, this is a Kubuntu-only support centre. Ubuntu questions should be asked in Ubuntu Forums or Ask Ubuntu. I hope this helps! In Christ, Ryan On 05/18/2012 08:13 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: good morning I am very new with linux. but I can use evolution and firefox and this is better than win online my question: I only can boot hardy but not lucid or ocelot it is a vga problem. is f4 the right way? shall I mail lspci oder lshal? second question is this a community for linux and ubuntu and xubuntu and so on or only for kubuntu. thank your forwarf for help whysky --- Kaj Haulrich schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Kaj Haulrich Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO An: "Kubuntu user technical support" Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 07:08 Uhr On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote: > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the >>> only HDD) >> >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put >> grub on the EFI-partition. > > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual boot with > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from inside Windows - sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' partition. Not sure though, because first thing I do with a new computer is to erase Windows completely. However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have to create an EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put grub-efi on it. On my system that is sda2.  As far as I can tell there is no way of getting rid of this UEFI rigmarole and revert to the good, old BIOS. There is some further information here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Good afternoon, I hope your day is going well. I usually will reply-all, if that is what you mean. This is because other people on the list can see my emails and if I say something wrong or incorrect, they can reply and correct it. I also do it just so everybody is in the loop on what is going on. If Oneiric (and newer) crash after trying to boot, and hardy (and older) boot fine, then it must be an internal error, or an error that is in the system when Oneiric/newer boots. It may very well be the VGA problem as you suggest. I have never experienced this, so I am able to give you information to the best of my abilities without being able to see what you are seeing, so if I don't solve the problem or figure out an answer, I am sorry. Does Persistent boot? Persistent is the newest stable version of Kubuntu. 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Your suggestion would probably work if you could figure out how to interrupt boot. For your second question, yes. You can install Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu on an old laptop. Since you are new with Linux, you printable don't know about Lubuntu, which would be your best option for doing this. Ubuntu/Kubuntu are resource-hungry. For this reason, I do not recommend installing these on an old computer or laptop. Xubuntu will work, since XFCE is not resource-hungry. Allow me to introduce Lubuntu to you, to make things even more complicated. Lubuntu uses the LXDE desktop environment, which is extremely lightweight, and is not resource-hungry at all. Lubuntu is known for working on laptops/computers so old that Windows doesn't even work anymore on them. You can install Lubuntu alongside Windows ME, or completely erase the hard drive and install Lubuntu, allowing Lubuntu to take up the whole drive. I think I've made this email long enough for now. Sorry :) Thanks! In Christ,Ryan On May 19, 2012, at 3:03 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: good morning ryanthank You for Your friendly answer. Is there a way to interrupt the booting and tell hey computer my graphik card is may only   1000 pointsyou need  1000000 maybe hd can You tell linuxto change his ask for the monitor? thank You whysky the problem ist not generic or so is one version older hardyand all other systems like SuSe crash even old versions. another question:can I use ubuntu kubuntu xubuntuwith very old alptop12 years oldbought with win me. can I user ocelot? what is difference lucid and ocelotbecausejanuary 2012 both are new. what does mean: Hardy has no support but ocelot has supportis it likegates gives support win 7 but noch win 98? PSis it possible to boot kubuntu in text modus? --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 17:35 Uhr On 05/18/2012 09:51 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: good afternoon ryan thank You for help. is it to custom here to write to all members or call one person  now ryan? the situation I put in live CD SuSe BSD Ocelot.... the machine is starting and running text modus. ok then linux is changing to grafik mode then crash black screen or frozen. hardy=no problem ubuntu older than hardy also booting fine. why? I dont know. I suggest, hardy is checking vga before changing to grafik ocelot does not check it and crash. Can You understand this? thank You for help whysky --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 16:08 Uhr Good morning, Tobias. Very good questions you have. I think I can answer the first half-way, and I am sure I can answer your second question. Do you get past the boot screen with Oneiric and Lucid? In the boot screen (GRUB), to boot into different operating systems (different versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc, Windows or other OS), when inside GRUB, select between the different operating systems by using the down and up keys on the keyboard. Then, press the enter/return key on the keyboard to boot the selected operating system. Do you know this is a VGA problem? If so, I have no clue how to solve this, unless you install drivers for VGA. If you install VGA driver software, you are installing this inside the operating system, not GRUB. Therefore, if this is a GRUB problem, the problem will still persist with GRUB, even after installing driver software. For your second question, this is a Kubuntu-only support centre. Ubuntu questions should be asked in Ubuntu Forums or Ask Ubuntu. I hope this helps! In Christ, Ryan On 05/18/2012 08:13 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: good morning I am very new with linux. but I can use evolution and firefox and this is better than win online my question: I only can boot hardy but not lucid or ocelot it is a vga problem. is f4 the right way? shall I mail lspci oder lshal? second question is this a community for linux and ubuntu and xubuntu and so on or only for kubuntu. thank your forwarf for help whysky --- Kaj Haulrich schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Kaj Haulrich Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO An: "Kubuntu user technical support" Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 07:08 Uhr On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote: > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the >>> only HDD) >> >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put >> grub on the EFI-partition. > > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual boot with > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from inside Windows - sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' partition. Not sure though, because first thing I do with a new computer is to erase Windows completely. However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have to create an EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put grub-efi on it. On my system that is sda2.  As far as I can tell there is no way of getting rid of this UEFI rigmarole and revert to the good, old BIOS. There is some further information here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Good afternoon, I hope your day is going well. I usually will reply-all, if that is what you mean. This is because other people on the list can see my emails and if I say something wrong or incorrect, they can reply and correct it. I also do it just so everybody is in the loop on what is going on. If Oneiric (and newer) crash after trying to boot, and hardy (and older) boot fine, then it must be an internal error, or an error that is in the system when Oneiric/newer boots. It may very well be the VGA problem as you suggest. I have never experienced this, so I am able to give you information to the best of my abilities without being able to see what you are seeing, so if I don't solve the problem or figure out an answer, I am sorry. Does Persistent boot? Persistent is the newest stable version of Kubuntu. 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URL: From rtgkid at gmail.com Sun May 20 18:20:52 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 13:20:52 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: <1337520638.81515.YahooMailClassic@web29602.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <1337520638.81515.YahooMailClassic@web29602.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good afternoon, I hope your Sunday is going well. I just got back from church, so sorry I wasn't able to reply sooner. By problems, do you mean the boot issues, or problems once you are actually in the operating system? There is no difference between the fall (autumn) and the spring releasees. The only difference is that one is released in April (spring in the northern hemisphere, fall, or autumn in the southern hemisphere). Each release adds a new set of features, but there are some which only update the K Desktop Environment (KDE). I did not really understand much about the release cycle at all when I first started using Linux, so I will explain: Kubuntu releases are made pretty much religiously on a six-month bases, the first release of the year is usually made in mid-April, with the exception of 6.06, in which the release had to be put further into the year because Kubuntu/Ubuntu was not ready yet to be released. The second and last release of the year is always made in October. Thanks, and have a great week! In Christ, Ryan On May 20, 2012, at 8:30 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > good afternoon > thank You for help > > hardy is fine > ocelot and lucid has problems. > what is the difference > when every six months there are > two kubuntus > octobre 2011 lucid and ocelot? > > > thank You have a relaxed sunday > > > whysky > > > > > > > --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Sa, 19.5.2012: > > Von: Ryan Gauger > Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details > An: "Kubuntu user technical support" > CC: "Kubuntu user technical support" > Datum: Samstag, 19. Mai, 2012 15:01 Uhr > > I forgot to answer one of your questions: yes, it is possible to boot Kubuntu in text mode, but I am not very good with it (knowledge-wise). > > The only difference between Lucid and Oneiric is that they are two different versions of Kubuntu. Between Lucid and Oneiric, Maverick and Natty were released. > > What it means by Oneiric has support but Hardy doesn't means that Oneiric knows how to deal with the hardware you are referring to. Hardy doesn't know what to do with the hardware you are referring to. Thanks! > > In Christ, > Ryan > > On May 19, 2012, at 3:03 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > >> >> >> >> good morning ryan >> thank You for Your friendly answer. >> >> Is there a way to interrupt the booting >> and tell >> >> hey computer my graphik card is may only 1000 points >> you need 1000000 maybe hd >> can You tell linux >> to change his ask for the monitor? >> >> >> thank You >> >> whysky >> >> the problem ist not generic or so is one version older hardy >> and all other systems like SuSe crash even old versions. >> >> >> another question: >> can I use ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu >> with very old alptop >> 12 years old >> bought with win me. >> >> can I user ocelot? >> >> >> what is difference lucid and ocelot >> because >> january 2012 both are new. >> >> what does mean: Hardy has no support but ocelot has support >> is it like >> gates gives support win 7 but noch win 98? >> >> >> PS >> is it possible >> to boot kubuntu in text modus? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: >> >> Von: Ryan Gauger >> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID >> An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 17:35 Uhr >> >> On 05/18/2012 09:51 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: >>> >>> good afternoon ryan >>> >>> thank You for help. >>> >>> is it to custom here to write to all members >>> or call one person >>> now ryan? >>> >>> >>> >>> the situation >>> >>> I put in >>> live CD >>> SuSe >>> BSD >>> Ocelot.... >>> >>> the machine is starting and running text modus. >>> ok >>> then linux is changing to grafik mode >>> then >>> crash black screen >>> >>> or frozen. >>> >>> >>> >>> hardy=no problem >>> ubuntu older than hardy also booting fine. >>> >>> why? >>> I dont know. >>> I suggest, hardy is checking vga before changing to grafik >>> ocelot does not check it and crash. >>> >>> Can You understand this? >>> >>> thank You for help >>> >>> >>> whysky >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: >>> >>> Von: Ryan Gauger >>> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID >>> An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 16:08 Uhr >>> >>> Good morning, Tobias. Very good questions you have. I think I can answer the first half-way, and I am sure I can answer your second question. Do you get past the boot screen with Oneiric and Lucid? In the boot screen (GRUB), to boot into different operating systems (different versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc, Windows or other OS), when inside GRUB, select between the different operating systems by using the down and up keys on the keyboard. Then, press the enter/return key on the keyboard to boot the selected operating system. Do you know this is a VGA problem? If so, I have no clue how to solve this, unless you install drivers for VGA. If you install VGA driver software, you are installing this inside the operating system, not GRUB. Therefore, if this is a GRUB problem, the problem will still persist with GRUB, even after installing driver software. >>> >>> For your second question, this is a Kubuntu-only support centre. Ubuntu questions should be asked in Ubuntu Forums or Ask Ubuntu. I hope this helps! >>> >>> In Christ, >>> Ryan >>> >>> On 05/18/2012 08:13 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> good morning >>>> I am very new with linux. >>>> >>>> but I can use evolution and firefox and this is better than win >>>> online >>>> >>>> my question: >>>> I only can boot hardy >>>> but not lucid or ocelot >>>> it is a vga problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> is f4 the right way? >>>> >>>> shall I mail lspci oder lshal? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> second question >>>> is this a community for linux and ubuntu and xubuntu and so on >>>> or only for kubuntu. >>>> >>>> thank your forwarf for help >>>> >>>> whysky >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- Kaj Haulrich schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: >>>> >>>> Von: Kaj Haulrich >>>> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO >>>> An: "Kubuntu user technical support" >>>> Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 07:08 Uhr >>>> >>>> On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote: >>>> > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: >>>> >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: >>>> >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It >>>> >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the >>>> >>> only HDD) >>>> >> >>>> >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put >>>> >> grub on the EFI-partition. >>>> > >>>> > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual boot with >>>> > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 >>>> >>>> I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from inside Windows - sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' partition. Not sure though, because first thing I do with a new computer is to erase Windows completely. >>>> >>>> However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have to create an EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put grub-efi on it. On my system that is sda2. As far as I can tell there is no way of getting rid of this UEFI rigmarole and revert to the good, old BIOS. >>>> >>>> There is some further information here: >>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting >>>> >>>> Kaj Haulrich. >>>> -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- >>>> --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- >>>> >>>> -- kubuntu-users mailing list >>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> >>> >> Good afternoon, I hope your day is going well. I usually will reply-all, if that is what you mean. This is because other people on the list can see my emails and if I say something wrong or incorrect, they can reply and correct it. I also do it just so everybody is in the loop on what is going on. >> >> If Oneiric (and newer) crash after trying to boot, and hardy (and older) boot fine, then it must be an internal error, or an error that is in the system when Oneiric/newer boots. It may very well be the VGA problem as you suggest. I have never experienced this, so I am able to give you information to the best of my abilities without being able to see what you are seeing, so if I don't solve the problem or figure out an answer, I am sorry. Does Persistent boot? Persistent is the newest stable version of Kubuntu. 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URL: From rtgkid at gmail.com Sun May 20 18:25:30 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 13:25:30 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: <1337520839.81180.YahooMailClassic@web29601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <1337520839.81180.YahooMailClassic@web29601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good afternoon, From what I know or understand, there is no way to stop for VGA. I'm sorry I cannot be of more help right now. Thanks! Have a great week! On May 20, 2012, at 8:33 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > > good afternoon > > thank You for help. > I can interrupt any booting of any ubuntu or kubuntu > with f2 and say German > is there no way to stop also for vga.? > > > > because if I would not stop z is y and y is z because I live in Frankfurt > > regards > whysky > > > > > > --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Sa, 19.5.2012: > > Von: Ryan Gauger > Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details > An: "Kubuntu user technical support" > CC: "Kubuntu user technical support" > Datum: Samstag, 19. Mai, 2012 14:52 Uhr > > Good morning, Tobias. > > I don't think there is a way to interrupt the boot unless you were to use command line (which I am not good with at all unless it is sudo). Your suggestion would probably work if you could figure out how to interrupt boot. > > For your second question, yes. You can install Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu on an old laptop. Since you are new with Linux, you printable don't know about Lubuntu, which would be your best option for doing this. Ubuntu/Kubuntu are resource-hungry. For this reason, I do not recommend installing these on an old computer or laptop. Xubuntu will work, since XFCE is not resource-hungry. Allow me to introduce Lubuntu to you, to make things even more complicated. Lubuntu uses the LXDE desktop environment, which is extremely lightweight, and is not resource-hungry at all. Lubuntu is known for working on laptops/computers so old that Windows doesn't even work anymore on them. You can install Lubuntu alongside Windows ME, or completely erase the hard drive and install Lubuntu, allowing Lubuntu to take up the whole drive. I think I've made this email long enough for now. Sorry :) Thanks! > > In Christ, > Ryan > > On May 19, 2012, at 3:03 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > >> >> >> >> good morning ryan >> thank You for Your friendly answer. >> >> Is there a way to interrupt the booting >> and tell >> >> hey computer my graphik card is may only 1000 points >> you need 1000000 maybe hd >> can You tell linux >> to change his ask for the monitor? >> >> >> thank You >> >> whysky >> >> the problem ist not generic or so is one version older hardy >> and all other systems like SuSe crash even old versions. >> >> >> another question: >> can I use ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu >> with very old alptop >> 12 years old >> bought with win me. >> >> can I user ocelot? >> >> >> what is difference lucid and ocelot >> because >> january 2012 both are new. >> >> what does mean: Hardy has no support but ocelot has support >> is it like >> gates gives support win 7 but noch win 98? >> >> >> PS >> is it possible >> to boot kubuntu in text modus? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: >> >> Von: Ryan Gauger >> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID >> An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 17:35 Uhr >> >> On 05/18/2012 09:51 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: >>> >>> good afternoon ryan >>> >>> thank You for help. >>> >>> is it to custom here to write to all members >>> or call one person >>> now ryan? >>> >>> >>> >>> the situation >>> >>> I put in >>> live CD >>> SuSe >>> BSD >>> Ocelot.... >>> >>> the machine is starting and running text modus. >>> ok >>> then linux is changing to grafik mode >>> then >>> crash black screen >>> >>> or frozen. >>> >>> >>> >>> hardy=no problem >>> ubuntu older than hardy also booting fine. >>> >>> why? >>> I dont know. >>> I suggest, hardy is checking vga before changing to grafik >>> ocelot does not check it and crash. >>> >>> Can You understand this? >>> >>> thank You for help >>> >>> >>> whysky >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: >>> >>> Von: Ryan Gauger >>> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID >>> An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 16:08 Uhr >>> >>> Good morning, Tobias. Very good questions you have. I think I can answer the first half-way, and I am sure I can answer your second question. Do you get past the boot screen with Oneiric and Lucid? In the boot screen (GRUB), to boot into different operating systems (different versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc, Windows or other OS), when inside GRUB, select between the different operating systems by using the down and up keys on the keyboard. Then, press the enter/return key on the keyboard to boot the selected operating system. Do you know this is a VGA problem? If so, I have no clue how to solve this, unless you install drivers for VGA. If you install VGA driver software, you are installing this inside the operating system, not GRUB. Therefore, if this is a GRUB problem, the problem will still persist with GRUB, even after installing driver software. >>> >>> For your second question, this is a Kubuntu-only support centre. Ubuntu questions should be asked in Ubuntu Forums or Ask Ubuntu. I hope this helps! >>> >>> In Christ, >>> Ryan >>> >>> On 05/18/2012 08:13 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> good morning >>>> I am very new with linux. >>>> >>>> but I can use evolution and firefox and this is better than win >>>> online >>>> >>>> my question: >>>> I only can boot hardy >>>> but not lucid or ocelot >>>> it is a vga problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> is f4 the right way? >>>> >>>> shall I mail lspci oder lshal? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> second question >>>> is this a community for linux and ubuntu and xubuntu and so on >>>> or only for kubuntu. >>>> >>>> thank your forwarf for help >>>> >>>> whysky >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- Kaj Haulrich schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: >>>> >>>> Von: Kaj Haulrich >>>> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO >>>> An: "Kubuntu user technical support" >>>> Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 07:08 Uhr >>>> >>>> On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote: >>>> > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: >>>> >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: >>>> >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It >>>> >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the >>>> >>> only HDD) >>>> >> >>>> >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put >>>> >> grub on the EFI-partition. >>>> > >>>> > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual boot with >>>> > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 >>>> >>>> I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from inside Windows - sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' partition. Not sure though, because first thing I do with a new computer is to erase Windows completely. >>>> >>>> However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have to create an EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put grub-efi on it. On my system that is sda2. As far as I can tell there is no way of getting rid of this UEFI rigmarole and revert to the good, old BIOS. >>>> >>>> There is some further information here: >>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting >>>> >>>> Kaj Haulrich. >>>> -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- >>>> --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- >>>> >>>> -- kubuntu-users mailing list >>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> >>> >> Good afternoon, I hope your day is going well. I usually will reply-all, if that is what you mean. This is because other people on the list can see my emails and if I say something wrong or incorrect, they can reply and correct it. 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Just close them all. you must close all (trop d'utiisateurs en même temps, un utilisateur ne peut dermer pour un autre) 2012/5/20 Dennis Linux > Hello, > > The laptop is 1 month old and there is a installation of Ubuntu 12.04 and > Windows 7. > Mostely Ubuntu is used and there were no problems until after a update > yesterday. > I saw it on a pc with 11.10 and it's back now, what is wrong that Ubuntu > can't shut down. > Unbeliveble that shut down stays a problem! > What update did was the problem in Ubuntu and shut down problems? > > Kind regards, Dennis > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The stack of paper is >>> allready well over 4 inches tall. I can handle it when >>> it runs out of paper, as the printer is rather well >>> behaved about pausing for that. Whats getting my goat >>> is when the cartridge starts running out of ink, its >>> rather difficult to be right on top of it, as it very >>> slowly fades out to finally blank pages. I have a 1/2" >>> stack of now useless paper left over from the last time. >>> >>> Ok, so here's the question. Does kde, (or anything >>> else for that matter), have a printer util that can >>> cause a printer to pause in the middle of a print job, >>> and then let you back up in the file to before things >>> started getting flakey, and restart the print job from >>> there? After I've changed the ink cartridge during >>> the pause, that is. >>> >>> It seems to me that swaping out ribbons and cartridges >>> etc. would be such a common place sort of thing, that >>> someone somewhere would have created something like >>> that, but who/what/where? >>> >> not sure i know of any way, but how about pulling the paper out? that'll >> cause it to pause. if it has a drawer, or some sort of door, most >> printers will pause if you open them, and display a warning asking you >> to close the door back. >> of course, this is assuming you're beside the printer, and watching when >> things start getting flakey. > It would seem that most times you would be printing from a pdf > (or if not, you might be able to create one from whatever text you > do have) and to print pdfs, you always have the opportunity to > print a selected group of pages, so you could print, say 50 pages, > look at the output, and then start at page 51, and so on to continue. > That way you wouldn't have to baby-sit the printer, you could go and > have lunch or something, and look at the output at your convenience. > > Not ideal, but better than nothing. > > --doug >> >> > > I would check out the number of the page where it last printed okay, say "X". Then print from "X" to 2"X", then 2"X" to 3"X"... and so on, changing the cartridges as needed in between. I have done something similar in the past. I now use a laserjet and it prints many pages before needing a cartridge change. Good luck! Tom -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- Decimus Iunius Iuvenalis (Juvenal), Roman Poet, late 1st, early 2nd century AD ("Who will protect us from the protectors?") From clay at claydoh.com Sun May 20 22:43:32 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 18:43:32 -0400 Subject: Compiling fails -- KDE libraries not found In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4818217.i3QtZ6k649@lark-latitude-d630> > On Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:39:36 PM Richard S. Crawford wrote: > > Because I *hate* Amarok2 and its inability to sync playlists across devices, and Clementine doesn't seem to talk well to my MTP device, I'm trying to install Amarok 1.4 on my Pangolin box. > > > I've been following the instructions I found here: > > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1559002&page=3 > > > but when I try to configure the file I get the following error: > > > in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail. > So, check this please and use another prefix! > > > Anyone have any ideas on how I can approach this? > > > > Have you tried running configure with "--prefix=/usr" Actually the real problem is that you may not have installed all the required kde3 libs and dev packages, which no longer exist in recent versions. Not knowing which part of this thread you followed makes it hard as parts of it are old and likely outdated. clay From rtgkid at gmail.com Mon May 21 00:55:25 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 00:55:25 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't shut down anymore Message-ID: <8381557075244651670@unknownmsgid> If you can, could you please translate the first part of that email to English? If you can’t I can translate it for everybody using an online translator (Bing Translator). Thanks, and have a great rest of the day! In Christ, Ryan Sent from my Windows 8 PC *From:* pierre jocelyn andre *Sent:* Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:13:27 PM *To:* Kubuntu user technical support *Subject:* Re: Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't shut down anymore Bonjour, c'est tout simplement que de multiple cessions ont été ouvertes. Il suffit de toutes les fermer. Sory for my poor english it's just that multiple assignments are open . Just close them all. you must close all (trop d'utiisateurs en même temps, un utilisateur ne peut dermer pour un autre) 2012/5/20 Dennis Linux > Hello, > > The laptop is 1 month old and there is a installation of Ubuntu 12.04 and > Windows 7. > Mostely Ubuntu is used and there were no problems until after a update > yesterday. > I saw it on a pc with 11.10 and it's back now, what is wrong that Ubuntu > can't shut down. > Unbeliveble that shut down stays a problem! > What update did was the problem in Ubuntu and shut down problems? > > Kind regards, Dennis > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This will > fail. > > So, check this please and use another prefix! > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas on how I can approach this? > > > > > > > > > Have you tried running configure with "--prefix=/usr" > Actually the real problem is that you may not have installed all the > required > kde3 libs and dev packages, which no longer exist in recent versions. > > Not knowing which part of this thread you followed makes it hard as parts > of > it are old and likely outdated. I was following the later parts of the thread, dated April 2012 and later. Obviously, *someone* got Amarok 1.4 working on their Pangolin machine, but I haven't been able to yet. -- Sláinte, Richard S. Crawford (richard at underpope.com) http://www.underpope.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/underpope Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/underpope Google+: http://gplus.to/underpope -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just close them all. > you must close all > (trop d'utiisateurs en même temps, un utilisateur ne peut dermer pour > un autre) > > > 2012/5/20 Dennis Linux > > > Hello, > > The laptop is 1 month old and there is a installation of Ubuntu > 12.04 and Windows 7. > Mostely Ubuntu is used and there were no problems until after a > update yesterday. > I saw it on a pc with 11.10 and it's back now, what is wrong that > Ubuntu can't shut down. > Unbeliveble that shut down stays a problem! > What update did was the problem in Ubuntu and shut down problems? > > Kind regards, Dennis > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paradox.herron at bluewin.ch Mon May 21 02:42:48 2012 From: paradox.herron at bluewin.ch (John D. Herron) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 04:42:48 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't shut down anymore In-Reply-To: <4FB9A8CE.8050309@bluewin.ch> References: <4FB9A8CE.8050309@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <4FB9ABA8.2060300@bluewin.ch> Oops, just saw that I made a mistake... Here's the correct version: It's just that *many* sessions have been opened. It would suffice to close them all (too many simultaneous users, a user cannot close for another). ____________________________________________ On 05/21/2012 04:30 AM, John D. Herron wrote: > Translation: > It's just that my sessions have been opened. It would suffice to close > them all > (too many simultaneous users, a user cannot close for another). > > HTH > john > ____________________________________________ > > On 05/20/2012 10:12 PM, pierre jocelyn andre wrote: >> Bonjour, >> c'est tout simplement que de multiple cessions ont été ouvertes. Il >> suffit de toutes les fermer. >> Sory for my poor english >> it's just that multiple assignments are open . Just close them all. >> you must close all >> (trop d'utiisateurs en même temps, un utilisateur ne peut dermer pour >> un autre) >> >> >> 2012/5/20 Dennis Linux > > >> >> Hello, >> >> The laptop is 1 month old and there is a installation of Ubuntu >> 12.04 and Windows 7. >> Mostely Ubuntu is used and there were no problems until after a >> update yesterday. >> I saw it on a pc with 11.10 and it's back now, what is wrong that >> Ubuntu can't shut down. >> Unbeliveble that shut down stays a problem! >> What update did was the problem in Ubuntu and shut down problems? >> >> Kind regards, Dennis >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I can handle it when >>>it runs out of paper, as the printer is rather well >>>behaved about pausing for that. Whats getting my goat >>>is when the cartridge starts running out of ink, its >>>rather difficult to be right on top of it, as it very >>>slowly fades out to finally blank pages. I have a 1/2" >>>stack of now useless paper left over from the last time. >>> >>>Ok, so here's the question. Does kde, (or anything >>>else for that matter), have a printer util that can >>>cause a printer to pause in the middle of a print job, >>>and then let you back up in the file to before things >>>started getting flakey, and restart the print job from >>>there? After I've changed the ink cartridge during >>>the pause, that is. >>> >>>It seems to me that swaping out ribbons and cartridges >>>etc. would be such a common place sort of thing, that >>>someone somewhere would have created something like >>>that, but who/what/where? >>> >>not sure i know of any way, but how about pulling the paper out? that'll >>cause it to pause. if it has a drawer, or some sort of door, most >>printers will pause if you open them, and display a warning asking you >>to close the door back. >>of course, this is assuming you're beside the printer, and watching when >>things start getting flakey. >> > >It would seem that most times you would be printing from a pdf >(or if not, you might be able to create one from whatever text you >do have) and to print pdfs, you always have the opportunity to >print a selected group of pages, so you could print, say 50 pages, >look at the output, and then start at page 51, and so on to continue. >That way you wouldn't have to baby-sit the printer, you could go and >have lunch or something, and look at the output at your convenience. > >Not ideal, but better than nothing. > >--doug First off, thanks to everyone who reponded. That .pdf, "print pages(X) through pages(Y)", option is really interesting; I didn't know you could do that. It's just a thought, but Will it print those pages to a file, too? The big problem about printing .pdf files, though, (at least using Ocular), is that it seems to take about 4 or 5 minutes to print each page. I doubt the ink would last that long, but It would probably still be spitting out paper after I came back from a three month world tour. So far I've been using firefox to print the html file. Firefox seems to be able to print 4 or 5 pages per minute, which is vastly better. Bill From gkourtev at gmail.com Mon May 21 08:54:49 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:54:49 +0300 Subject: SOLVED: Firefox and magnet In-Reply-To: References: <2067417.vnq3iooLB1@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <1591553.ZvtMOV4QSJ@gkourtev-laptop> Actually it didn't work for me that way as the suggested is for FF up to 3.5. I followed these instruction: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol#Firefox_3.5_and_above In about:config -- Right-click -> New -> Boolean -> Name: network.protocol- handler.expose.magnet -> Value -> false Next time I click on a magnet link it asked me which applicatoion to use. gk I managed to fix this. I think the first answer in second post is correct. On mobile now so cant check http://askubuntu.com/questions/53102/how-to-open-magnet-links-from-firefox- with-deluge Hth Jonas Den 15 maj 2012 10:12 skrev "Georgi Kourtev" : I was trying to download a file through a magnet link. It works on my other machine but on a new installation of 12.04 (4.8.3) I have the following pop-up in Firefox: "Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (magnet) isn't associated with any program." Didn't find anything meaningful while googling. Any ideas? I am using KTorroent as a client. 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Dave From whyskyhigh at yahoo.de Mon May 21 10:19:07 2012 From: whyskyhigh at yahoo.de (tobias schwibingerr) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:19:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: install new example SWF Message-ID: <1337595547.1350.YahooMailClassic@web29603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> good morning     ryan      and all other members of lis thank You for Your friendly email. first something funny bad about win:win needed me to clean every evening 2 gb filesdirty thingsbecause win is during surfing producing many nonsense files. speicial outlook so kubuntuor linux is fine and nice. I think there is no harm kubuntu can do because it is only hardy and I like to use gedit as editor. my question new about operating system: Button synaptikwhere can I find a program for see swf or flash? how can I search. second question:where ist synaptic searching:on cd or in the internet? is there a problemif I install 2011 ocelot and keep itfor 10 years.or is it necessary to do every year download the new  kubuntu and install it? jesus=love regards whysky --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am So, 20.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details An: "Kubuntu user technical support" CC: "Kubuntu user technical support" Datum: Sonntag, 20. Mai, 2012 20:20 Uhr Good afternoon, I hope your Sunday is going well. I just got back from church, so sorry I wasn't able to reply sooner. By problems, do you mean the boot issues, or problems once you are actually in the operating system? There is no difference between the fall (autumn) and the spring releasees. The only difference is that one is released in April (spring in the northern hemisphere, fall, or autumn in the southern hemisphere). Each release adds a new set of features, but there are some which only update the K Desktop Environment (KDE). I did not really understand much about the release cycle at all when I first started using Linux, so I will explain: Kubuntu releases are made pretty much religiously on a six-month bases, the first release of the year is usually made in mid-April, with the exception of 6.06, in which the release had to be put further into the year because Kubuntu/Ubuntu was not ready yet to be released. The second and last release of the year is always made in October. Thanks, and have a great week! In Christ,Ryan On May 20, 2012, at 8:30 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: good afternoonthank You for help hardy is fineocelot and lucid has problems.what is the differencewhen every six months there aretwo kubuntusoctobre 2011 lucid and ocelot? thank You have a relaxed sunday whysky --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Sa, 19.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details An: "Kubuntu user technical support" CC: "Kubuntu user technical support" Datum: Samstag, 19. Mai, 2012 15:01 Uhr I forgot to answer one of your questions: yes, it is possible to boot Kubuntu in text mode, but I am not very good with it (knowledge-wise). The only difference between Lucid and Oneiric is that they are two different versions of Kubuntu. Between Lucid and Oneiric, Maverick and Natty were released. What it means by Oneiric has support but Hardy doesn't means that Oneiric knows how to deal with the hardware you are referring to. Hardy doesn't know what to do with the hardware you are referring to. Thanks! In Christ,Ryan  On May 19, 2012, at 3:03 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: good morning ryanthank You for Your friendly answer. Is there a way to interrupt the booting and tell hey computer my graphik card is may only   1000 pointsyou need  1000000 maybe hd can You tell linuxto change his ask for the monitor? thank You whysky the problem ist not generic or so is one version older hardyand all other systems like SuSe crash even old versions. another question:can I use ubuntu kubuntu xubuntuwith very old alptop12 years oldbought with win me. can I user ocelot? what is difference lucid and ocelotbecausejanuary 2012 both are new. what does mean: Hardy has no support but ocelot has supportis it likegates gives support win 7 but noch win 98? PSis it possible to boot kubuntu in text modus? --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 17:35 Uhr On 05/18/2012 09:51 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: good afternoon ryan thank You for help. is it to custom here to write to all members or call one person  now ryan? the situation I put in live CD SuSe BSD Ocelot.... the machine is starting and running text modus. ok then linux is changing to grafik mode then crash black screen or frozen. hardy=no problem ubuntu older than hardy also booting fine. why? I dont know. I suggest, hardy is checking vga before changing to grafik ocelot does not check it and crash. Can You understand this? thank You for help whysky --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 16:08 Uhr Good morning, Tobias. Very good questions you have. I think I can answer the first half-way, and I am sure I can answer your second question. Do you get past the boot screen with Oneiric and Lucid? In the boot screen (GRUB), to boot into different operating systems (different versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc, Windows or other OS), when inside GRUB, select between the different operating systems by using the down and up keys on the keyboard. Then, press the enter/return key on the keyboard to boot the selected operating system. Do you know this is a VGA problem? If so, I have no clue how to solve this, unless you install drivers for VGA. If you install VGA driver software, you are installing this inside the operating system, not GRUB. Therefore, if this is a GRUB problem, the problem will still persist with GRUB, even after installing driver software. For your second question, this is a Kubuntu-only support centre. Ubuntu questions should be asked in Ubuntu Forums or Ask Ubuntu. I hope this helps! In Christ, Ryan On 05/18/2012 08:13 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: good morning I am very new with linux. but I can use evolution and firefox and this is better than win online my question: I only can boot hardy but not lucid or ocelot it is a vga problem. is f4 the right way? shall I mail lspci oder lshal? second question is this a community for linux and ubuntu and xubuntu and so on or only for kubuntu. thank your forwarf for help whysky --- Kaj Haulrich schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012: Von: Kaj Haulrich Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO An: "Kubuntu user technical support" Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 07:08 Uhr On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote: > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote: >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the >>> only HDD) >> >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put >> grub on the EFI-partition. > > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's dual boot with > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2 I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from inside Windows - sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' partition. Not sure though, because first thing I do with a new computer is to erase Windows completely. However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have to create an EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put grub-efi on it. On my system that is sda2.  As far as I can tell there is no way of getting rid of this UEFI rigmarole and revert to the good, old BIOS. There is some further information here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Good afternoon, I hope your day is going well. I usually will reply-all, if that is what you mean. This is because other people on the list can see my emails and if I say something wrong or incorrect, they can reply and correct it. I also do it just so everybody is in the loop on what is going on. If Oneiric (and newer) crash after trying to boot, and hardy (and older) boot fine, then it must be an internal error, or an error that is in the system when Oneiric/newer boots. It may very well be the VGA problem as you suggest. I have never experienced this, so I am able to give you information to the best of my abilities without being able to see what you are seeing, so if I don't solve the problem or figure out an answer, I am sorry. Does Persistent boot? Persistent is the newest stable version of Kubuntu. 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URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon May 21 14:13:21 2012 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 08:13:21 -0600 Subject: [precise] k9copy: unable to open /dev/sr0 In-Reply-To: <4FB5D6CD.8000608@iinet.net.au> References: <4FB532C7.8090406@gmail.com> <4FB5B4B7.4040909@iinet.net.au> <4FB5D07B.4020104@gmail.com> <4FB5D6CD.8000608@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FBA4D81.9020603@gmail.com> Basil Chupin said the following at 05/17/2012 10:57 PM : > On 18/05/12 14:30, D. R. Evans wrote: >> Basil Chupin said the following at 05/17/2012 08:32 PM : >>> On 18/05/12 03:17, D. R. Evans wrote: >>>> After installing precise, k9copy tells me that it cannot open /dev/sr0. >>> What exactly do you mean by this? >> When I run k9copy and say "Open", it responds with "cannot open disc /dev/sr0". >> >>> What happens when - without k9copy running! - you insert a DVD into the >>> drive - does the menu come up (bottom right) "asking" you what you want >>> to do with the DVD and is the option to use k9copy there? >>> >> Yes. > > I guess what I meant to add earlier was: what happens if you select > k9copy form this menu - does k9copy start but then it cannot open sr0, > right? > Yes. > A most interesting puzzle :-) . I know that k9copy is no longer > supported - the author gave up trying to maintain it over 12 months ago > - but even so it should at least recognise and open disc in sr0. > > OK, have you tried running k9copy in a terminal? Often this may show > what may be causing the problem. > It says: Disc in /dev/sr0 is a video DVD. (It says this before I try to open the disc, when it puts the k9copy application window on the screen.) > Have you looked at the logs in /var/log/ ? > Which log(s) in particular? There are a lot of files in that directory. > How about ~/.kde4/share/config/K9copy to see if there is anything here > which looks "not quite right"? > I imagine that you mean ~/.kde/share/config/K9copy The only thing in that file that made wonder is that there is a line that says: dev= I wondered if it should say: dev=/dev/sr0 but when I made that change k9copy instantly crashed on startup, so I put it back the way it was. > Finally, have you tried creating a new user and trying out k9copy as > this user? > Yes. I even made the user (dangerously) a member of every group. Made no difference: k9copy still wouldn't open /dev/sr0. My best speculation is that the act of inserting a disc into /dev/sr0 causes some other program to grab /dev/sr0 in a way that renders it impossible for k9copy to open the device. But that doesn't make much sense, since other programs seem to be able to open it OK. I'm completely out of ideas at this point. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From whyskyhigh at yahoo.de Mon May 21 14:26:52 2012 From: whyskyhigh at yahoo.de (tobias schwibingerr) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 15:26:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: translate In-Reply-To: <8381557075244651670@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <1337610412.58606.YahooMailClassic@web29603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> good afternoon is the best way to translate bingor google or is there a better way? whysky --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Mo, 21.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: RE: Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't shut down anymore An: "Kubuntu user technical support" , "pierre jocelyn andre" Datum: Montag, 21. Mai, 2012 02:55 Uhr If you can, could you please translate the first part of that email to English? If you can’t I can translate it for everybody using an online translator (Bing Translator). Thanks, and have a great rest of the day!  In Christ,Ryan Sent from my Windows 8 PC    From: pierre jocelyn andre Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:13:27 PM To: Kubuntu user technical support Subject: Re: Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't shut down anymore  Bonjour, c'est tout simplement que de multiple cessions ont été ouvertes. Il suffit de toutes les fermer. Sory for my poor english it's just that multiple assignments are open . Just close them all. you must close all (trop d'utiisateurs en même temps, un utilisateur ne peut dermer pour un autre) 2012/5/20 Dennis Linux Hello, The laptop is 1 month old and there is a installation of Ubuntu 12.04 and Windows 7. Mostely Ubuntu is used and there were no problems until after a update yesterday. I saw it on a pc with 11.10 and it's back now, what is wrong that Ubuntu can't shut down. Unbeliveble that shut down stays a problem! What update did was the problem in Ubuntu and shut down problems? Kind regards, Dennis -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From myriam at kde.org Mon May 21 14:51:08 2012 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 16:51:08 +0200 Subject: translate In-Reply-To: <1337610412.58606.YahooMailClassic@web29603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <8381557075244651670@unknownmsgid> <1337610412.58606.YahooMailClassic@web29603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Tobias, On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > > good afternoon > > is the best way to translate > bing > or google Google works quite well. Tobias please, disable the html mail setting and send mail in plain text, your mails are getting incredibly huge since you tend to resend the complete mail thread, something that is not needed on a mailing list. And again, as I already told you in private mail: please do not top-post, it makes reading mails on mailing lists very difficult. Also please do not add unnecessary line breaks in the middle of a sentence, your mails are very difficult to read. Regards, Myriam PS. this mailing list uses the mailing list guidelines and etiquette as stated here: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists, please read and respect those. -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From rtgkid at gmail.com Mon May 21 15:10:06 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 10:10:06 -0500 Subject: translate In-Reply-To: References: <8381557075244651670@unknownmsgid> <1337610412.58606.YahooMailClassic@web29603.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FBA5ACE.7090507@gmail.com> On 05/21/2012 09:51 AM, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Tobias, > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM, tobias schwibingerr > wrote: >> good afternoon >> >> is the best way to translate >> bing >> or google > Google works quite well. > > Tobias please, disable the html mail setting and send mail in plain > text, your mails are getting incredibly huge since you tend to resend > the complete mail thread, something that is not needed on a mailing > list. > > And again, as I already told you in private mail: please do not > top-post, it makes reading mails on mailing lists very difficult. Also > please do not add unnecessary line breaks in the middle of a sentence, > your mails are very difficult to read. > > Regards, Myriam > > PS. this mailing list uses the mailing list guidelines and etiquette > as stated here: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists, > please read and respect those. > -- > Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community > Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: > http://www.fsfe.org > Please don't send me proprietary file formats, > use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) > I think Bing Translator is better (it's made by Microsoft). I think Bing translations are more accurate than Google's. From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon May 21 15:27:04 2012 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 09:27:04 -0600 Subject: [precise]: how to get kontact working? Message-ID: <4FBA5EC8.7030302@gmail.com> kontact worked OK in oneiric. Following an "upgrade" to precise, what happens is that on the GUI interface I get a message: Personal Information Management system is starting and after about 30 seconds this changes to: The Akonadi personal information management service is not operational While this is happening, on the console I get this mess: > [HN:~] kontact > QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. > QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. > kontact(2598)/libakonadi Akonadi::AgentManagerPrivate::createDBusInterface: AgentManager failed to get a valid AgentManager DBus interface. Error is: 1 "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner" "Could not get owner of name 'org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Control': no such name" > Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) > kontact(2598)/libakonadi Akonadi::SessionPrivate::socketError: Socket error occurred: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" > kontact(2598)/libakonadi Akonadi::SessionPrivate::socketError: Socket error occurred: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" > search paths: (".", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/bin", "/sbin", "/bin", "/usr/games", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/libexec", "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin", "/opt/mysql/sbin") > Found mysql_install_db: "/usr/bin/mysql_install_db" > Found mysqlcheck: "/usr/bin/mysqlcheck" > kontact(2598)/kdeui (KAction) KActionCollection::setComponentData: this does not work on a KActionCollection containing actions! > [HN:~] Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection! > executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi" > arguments: ("--defaults-file=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", "--datadir=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", "--socket=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/socket-homebrew/mysql.socket") > stdout: "" > stderr: "120521 9:17:43 [ERROR] Can't find messagefile '/usr/share/mysql/errmsg.sys' > " > exit code: 1 > process error: "Process operation timed out" > "[ > 0: akonadiserver() [0x419875] > 1: akonadiserver() [0x419b3c] > 2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x364c0) [0x7f2eefc8a4c0] > 3: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x7f2eefc8a445] > 4: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(abort+0x17b) [0x7f2eefc8dbab] > 5: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgTypePKc+0x11b) [0x7f2ef175650b] > 6: akonadiserver() [0x41bc82] > 7: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN9QIODevice5writeEPKcx+0xaf) [0x7f2ef17f2caf] > 8: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(+0x119272) [0x7f2ef17fe272] > 9: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN11QTextStreamD1Ev+0x39) [0x7f2ef1807109] > 10: akonadiserver() [0x412e96] > 11: akonadiserver() [0x4a0d33] > 12: akonadiserver() [0x41ca21] > 13: akonadiserver() [0x41e1e5] > 14: akonadiserver() [0x41f8e7] > 15: akonadiserver() [0x4123f2] > 16: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xed) [0x7f2eefc7576d] > 17: akonadiserver() [0x412d21] > ] > " > ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code 255 (Unknown error) > search paths: (".", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/bin", "/sbin", "/bin", "/usr/games", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/libexec", "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin", "/opt/mysql/sbin") > Found mysql_install_db: "/usr/bin/mysql_install_db" > Found mysqlcheck: "/usr/bin/mysqlcheck" > Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection! > executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi" > arguments: ("--defaults-file=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", "--datadir=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", "--socket=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/socket-homebrew/mysql.socket") > stdout: "" > stderr: "120521 9:17:46 [ERROR] Can't find messagefile '/usr/share/mysql/errmsg.sys' > " > exit code: 1 > process error: "Process operation timed out" > "[ > 0: akonadiserver() [0x419875] > 1: akonadiserver() [0x419b3c] > 2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x364c0) [0x7f47c62ae4c0] > 3: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x7f47c62ae445] > 4: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(abort+0x17b) [0x7f47c62b1bab] > 5: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgTypePKc+0x11b) [0x7f47c7d7a50b] > 6: akonadiserver() [0x41bc82] > 7: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN9QIODevice5writeEPKcx+0xaf) [0x7f47c7e16caf] > 8: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(+0x119272) [0x7f47c7e22272] > 9: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN11QTextStreamD1Ev+0x39) [0x7f47c7e2b109] > 10: akonadiserver() [0x412e96] > 11: akonadiserver() [0x4a0d33] > 12: akonadiserver() [0x41ca21] > 13: akonadiserver() [0x41e1e5] > 14: akonadiserver() [0x41f8e7] > 15: akonadiserver() [0x4123f2] > 16: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xed) [0x7f47c629976d] > 17: akonadiserver() [0x412d21] > ] > " > ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code 255 (Unknown error) > search paths: (".", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/bin", "/sbin", "/bin", "/usr/games", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/libexec", "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin", "/opt/mysql/sbin") > Found mysql_install_db: "/usr/bin/mysql_install_db" > Found mysqlcheck: "/usr/bin/mysqlcheck" > Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection! > executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi" > arguments: ("--defaults-file=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", "--datadir=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", "--socket=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/socket-homebrew/mysql.socket") > stdout: "" > stderr: "120521 9:17:48 [ERROR] Can't find messagefile '/usr/share/mysql/errmsg.sys' > " > exit code: 1 > process error: "Process operation timed out" > "[ > 0: akonadiserver() [0x419875] > 1: akonadiserver() [0x419b3c] > 2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x364c0) [0x7f560db824c0] > 3: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x7f560db82445] > 4: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(abort+0x17b) [0x7f560db85bab] > 5: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgTypePKc+0x11b) [0x7f560f64e50b] > 6: akonadiserver() [0x41bc82] > 7: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN9QIODevice5writeEPKcx+0xaf) [0x7f560f6eacaf] > 8: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(+0x119272) [0x7f560f6f6272] > 9: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN11QTextStreamD1Ev+0x39) [0x7f560f6ff109] > 10: akonadiserver() [0x412e96] > 11: akonadiserver() [0x4a0d33] > 12: akonadiserver() [0x41ca21] > 13: akonadiserver() [0x41e1e5] > 14: akonadiserver() [0x41f8e7] > 15: akonadiserver() [0x4123f2] > 16: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xed) [0x7f560db6d76d] > 17: akonadiserver() [0x412d21] > ] > " > ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code 255 (Unknown error) > search paths: (".", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/bin", "/sbin", "/bin", "/usr/games", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/libexec", "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin", "/opt/mysql/sbin") > Found mysql_install_db: "/usr/bin/mysql_install_db" > Found mysqlcheck: "/usr/bin/mysqlcheck" > Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection! > executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi" > arguments: ("--defaults-file=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", "--datadir=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", "--socket=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/socket-homebrew/mysql.socket") > stdout: "" > stderr: "120521 9:17:49 [ERROR] Can't find messagefile '/usr/share/mysql/errmsg.sys' > " > exit code: 1 > process error: "Process operation timed out" > "[ > 0: akonadiserver() [0x419875] > 1: akonadiserver() [0x419b3c] > 2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x364c0) [0x7f22149514c0] > 3: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x7f2214951445] > 4: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(abort+0x17b) [0x7f2214954bab] > 5: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgTypePKc+0x11b) [0x7f221641d50b] > 6: akonadiserver() [0x41bc82] > 7: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN9QIODevice5writeEPKcx+0xaf) [0x7f22164b9caf] > 8: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(+0x119272) [0x7f22164c5272] > 9: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN11QTextStreamD1Ev+0x39) [0x7f22164ce109] > 10: akonadiserver() [0x412e96] > 11: akonadiserver() [0x4a0d33] > 12: akonadiserver() [0x41ca21] > 13: akonadiserver() [0x41e1e5] > 14: akonadiserver() [0x41f8e7] > 15: akonadiserver() [0x4123f2] > 16: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xed) [0x7f221493c76d] > 17: akonadiserver() [0x412d21] > ] > " > ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code 255 (Unknown error) > "akonadiserver" crashed too often and will not be restarted! Refraining with some difficulty from a rant, I simply ask... How do I get kontact to work in precise? I have many hundreds of contacts, as well as my calendar sitting inside kontact somewhere, and I don't know how to get to them. If someone has a non-KDE-specific suggestion for a PIM I'd be happy to entertain suggestions so I don't find myself in this situation again. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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O.T. any tips for cloning back (is it necessary to delete files of overwriting from the backup is enough ?) -- BOFH excuse #232: Ionization from the air-conditioning From rayburke30 at gmail.com Mon May 21 21:06:23 2012 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 07:06:23 +1000 Subject: deleting firefox 10.02 from kpackagekit in k10.10 mm In-Reply-To: <3848548.x4593N06Km@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> References: <3848548.x4593N06Km@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Message-ID: Perry, don't understand question "O.T. any tips for cloning back (is it necessary to delete files of overwriting from the backup is enough ?)" ray ps not sure about this marking On 5/22/12, Perry wrote: >> can anyone help >> >> I am having trouble with firefox 10.02 when I downloaded as an update >> thru kpackagekit in my >> k10.10 mm, after downloaded and installed it always came back >> crashing, so I clonned back >> to my backup disc k10.10 mm with the old firefox 9.0.1. But now I have >> still showing with my >> kpackagekit updates the firefox 10.02, so how do I get rid of it from >> the updates? >> >> ray > > Sorry, I have no time to check and find this out right now but I have read > recently > (probably on this list) something concerning a way to "mark" a program, > so that it will not be updated. > > O.T. any tips for cloning back (is it necessary to delete files of > overwriting from > the backup is enough ?) > > > -- > BOFH excuse #232: Ionization from the air-conditioning > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From blchupin at iinet.net.au Tue May 22 06:31:33 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 16:31:33 +1000 Subject: [precise] k9copy: unable to open /dev/sr0 In-Reply-To: <4FBA4D81.9020603@gmail.com> References: <4FB532C7.8090406@gmail.com> <4FB5B4B7.4040909@iinet.net.au> <4FB5D07B.4020104@gmail.com> <4FB5D6CD.8000608@iinet.net.au> <4FBA4D81.9020603@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FBB32C5.8060801@iinet.net.au> On 22/05/12 00:13, D. R. Evans wrote: [.............. > Yes. I even made the user (dangerously) a member of every group. Made no > difference: k9copy still wouldn't open /dev/sr0. > > My best speculation is that the act of inserting a disc into /dev/sr0 causes > some other program to grab /dev/sr0 in a way that renders it impossible for > k9copy to open the device. But that doesn't make much sense, since other > programs seem to be able to open it OK. I'm completely out of ideas at this point. > > Doc Just a quick response here to say that there is a user on the Ubuntu list who cannot open a CD on which he has burnt an iso file. He gets an error message, "The link cannot be used because its target "cdrom0" doesn't exist". I feel that his and your problem are very much related. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.3.6 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From pwhite at bluewin.ch Tue May 22 16:00:05 2012 From: pwhite at bluewin.ch (Perry) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 18:00:05 +0200 Subject: Cloning, used to be: Re: deleting firefox 10.02 from kpackagekit in k10.10 mm In-Reply-To: References: <3848548.x4593N06Km@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Message-ID: <7824628.8Dx9O6pF9K@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Ray wrote: [snip] > >> k10.10 mm, after downloaded and installed it always came back > >> crashing, so I clonned back to my backup disc k [snip] > >> ray [snip] Perry wrote: > > O.T. any tips for cloning back (is it necessary to delete files of sorry, the "of" should have been an "or" > > overwriting from > > the backup is enough ?) > > don't understand question > "O.T. any tips for cloning back (is it necessary to delete files of > overwriting from > the backup is enough ?)" > > ray > ps not sure about this marking Well, I expected some tips on this "cloning". _Whiping everything clean before using the backup would surely work but is quite drastic. _Of c ourse you could leave untouched your personal documents, photos, and so on ; it's better not to delete and restore them. _I fear (not sure) that just overwriting with the backup-files may cause problems, for instance if a new app uses an existing config file. Perry -- BOFH excuse #12: dry joints on cable plug From pwhite at bluewin.ch Tue May 22 16:39:39 2012 From: pwhite at bluewin.ch (Perry) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 18:39:39 +0200 Subject: deleting firefox 10.02 from kpackagekit in k10.10 mm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1401565.4bbXM0isSo@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Ray said : > kpackagekit updates the firefox 10.02, so how do I get rid of it from > the updates? I found the thread I mentionned yesterday, about marking a program, so that it will not be updated. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2012-May/056314.html Curiously it was initiated by you, and Niels answered in : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2012-May/056330.html : > > you can prevent the upgrade to a newer package version > > as it is explained here: > > HTH Perry -- BOFH excuse #24: network packets travelling uphill (use a carrier pigeon) From kassube at gmx.net Tue May 22 17:12:07 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 19:12:07 +0200 Subject: deleting firefox 10.02 from kpackagekit in k10.10 mm In-Reply-To: <1401565.4bbXM0isSo@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> References: <1401565.4bbXM0isSo@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Message-ID: <201205221912.07815.kassube@gmx.net> Perry wrote: > Ray said : > > kpackagekit updates the firefox 10.02, so how do I get rid of it > > from the updates? > > I found the thread I mentionned yesterday, about marking a program, > so that it will not be updated. > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2012-May/056314.html > Curiously it was initiated by you, and Niels answered in : > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2012-May/056330.html I suppose Ray ignored that message because he wants a solution for kpackagekit alone. Furthermore he needs to get the old firefox version back before that version can be marked "hold". I think I could explain it for synaptic, but not for kpackagekit (I have wiped kpackagekit long ago and I'm not inclined to install it again). Isn't anybody familiar enough with kpackagekit to explain how to do it? Nils From rayburke30 at gmail.com Tue May 22 21:07:52 2012 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 07:07:52 +1000 Subject: deleting firefox 10.02 from kpackagekit in k10.10 mm In-Reply-To: <201205221912.07815.kassube@gmx.net> References: <1401565.4bbXM0isSo@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> <201205221912.07815.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Perry wrote: >> Ray said : >> > kpackagekit updates the firefox 10.02, so how do I get rid of it >> > from the updates? >> >> I found the thread I mentionned yesterday, about marking a program, >> so that it will not be updated. >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2012-May/056314.html >> Curiously it was initiated by you, and Niels answered in : >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2012-May/056330.html > > I suppose Ray ignored that message because he wants a solution for > kpackagekit alone. Furthermore he needs to get the old firefox version > back before that version can be marked "hold". I think I could explain > it for synaptic, but not for kpackagekit (I have wiped kpackagekit long > ago and I'm not inclined to install it again). Isn't anybody familiar > enough with kpackagekit to explain how to do it? > > > Nils > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Perry, I forgot to mention in my last reply that I have done what was said in those links but still have the problem of firefox 10.02 still showing firefox10.02 as an update? ray From rayburke30 at gmail.com Tue May 22 21:15:52 2012 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 07:15:52 +1000 Subject: deleting firefox 10.02 from kpackagekit in k10.10 mm In-Reply-To: References: <1401565.4bbXM0isSo@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> <201205221912.07815.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:07 AM, ray burke wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: >> Perry wrote: >>> Ray said : >>> > kpackagekit updates the firefox 10.02, so how do I get rid of it >>> > from the updates? >>> >>> I found the thread I mentionned yesterday, about marking a program, >>> so that it will not be updated. >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2012-May/056314.html >>> Curiously it was initiated by you, and Niels answered in : >>> >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2012-May/056330.html >> >> I suppose Ray ignored that message because he wants a solution for >> kpackagekit alone. Furthermore he needs to get the old firefox version >> back before that version can be marked "hold". I think I could explain >> it for synaptic, but not for kpackagekit (I have wiped kpackagekit long >> ago and I'm not inclined to install it again). Isn't anybody familiar >> enough with kpackagekit to explain how to do it? >> >> >> Nils >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Perry, > > I forgot to mention in my last reply that I have done what was said in > those links but still have the problem of firefox 10.02 still showing > firefox10.10.2 as an update? > > ray From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Tue May 22 21:29:14 2012 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 00:29:14 +0300 Subject: Cloning, used to be: Re: deleting firefox 10.02 from kpackagekit in k10.10 mm In-Reply-To: <7824628.8Dx9O6pF9K@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> References: <3848548.x4593N06Km@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> <7824628.8Dx9O6pF9K@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Message-ID: <4FBC052A.80102@whamra.com> On 22/05/12 19:00, Perry wrote: > > Ray wrote: > [snip] > > Well, I expected some tips on this "cloning". > _Whiping everything clean before using the backup would surely work > but is quite drastic. > _Of c ourse you could leave untouched your personal documents, > photos, and so on ; it's better not to delete and restore them. > _I fear (not sure) that just overwriting with the backup-files may cause problems, > for instance if a new app uses an existing config file. > well it depends on what is being backed up. for anything under /home, cloning isn't really the best of options. plain old fashioned backups are easier to use, as they allow you to restore files, while keeping any new files you've created after the last backup. and generally, there's negligible harm from keeping these new files. but for the root partition, assuming your /home is on a different partition, restoring backups on top of the partition will royally mess up your dpkg system. this is a case for cloning. the way cloning works, the entire partition is, along with its structure is saved (backed up). and unless you're using some specialized smart cloning manager, restoring without wiping is impossible (and most certainly unrecomm-ended). you see, dpkg keeps a database of every file installed by every package you install, not to mention their configuration files, their installation states, their dependency information, etc... this is the very heart of debian and debian-based systems. adding files from new packages, without having dpkg aware of them, is a recipe to chaos. now in the case you are using same partition for / and /home, you have a bit more work. you should be using normal archive backups for your home directory, and storing them away, and a clone of your / (which will inadvertently include /home) once every while. if things get messed up, you recover from the clone (which will also mean your /home got recovered), and then restore from the newest /home backup (assuming it's newer than the used clone). personally, i never saw the need for / backups at all. the beauty of debian based systems is how you can perform all sorts of repairs using the package manager. with your system files modified only during package installs/upgrades/removes, it's very rare to have filesystem corruption resulting from power loss or a hang, and if that happens, reinstalling the package with corrupt files resolves the problem. if a package causes conflicts or problems, it's as simple as removing it to fix the system. if a particular version is problematic, pinning the package works, etc.. etc.. i hope this was helpful :) -- Waleed K. 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Hamra > Manager of Hamra Information Systems > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Waleed K. Hamra > Manager of Hamra Information Systems > when I clone my k10.10mm the whole 80gb sata disc which becomes a direct copy, using HDClone 4.1, so I dont have to worry about clonning/restoring different folders, and if I have a problem with anything like firefox 10.10.2 crashing all the time when I downloaded thru kpackagekit in my k10.10mm, I just clone of my backup drive(exact copy of before I installed the update and go back to using firefox 9.02, so my clonning is exact copy of all my disc that holds my k10.10mm(80gb) and backup k10.10mm(80gb, clonned 1 week ago)? hope you understand waleed. ray From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue May 22 22:58:19 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 18:58:19 -0400 Subject: 12.04 is the worst yet In-Reply-To: <3355348.EAcTqTcS2t@ralph-sassy> References: <3572309.gHTdrXn2WV@linux1> <2239053.71lkle77n8@linux1> <3355348.EAcTqTcS2t@ralph-sassy> Message-ID: <2537246.XRPN6PL4Fb@linux1> On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 02:53:09 PM Ralph DeWitt wrote: > > > And some odd behaviour in webkit (Rekonq) but those will be sorted. > > > Until then I use Firefox and have no problems with that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Note: I only use pop mail accounts, no Imap. And I weed out old email > > > regularly so do not have "massive" mail folders. > > > > > > > > Same here.... > > Same here. Can not keep system up for more than 3/4 of a day before Kmail2 > becomes so unresponsive that I have to shutdown and restart system. And > that is with Kmail2 only on for a few minuites during the day. Ususally I > wounld like to shutdown only after a system update that requires it. My > current operational mode is too Windows like for me. Kmail2 is snappy here.... when its running. But it might crash 4 times in 5 mins - - sometimes as soon as you restart it - - and then it might run for an hour or two. And it has other severe problems with filters, folders, etc. They really did a number on it... and I would think there would have been some fixes coming by now. I went through the long process of detailing a crash including installing a bunch of debug stuff and when I got to the final stage, I found out my problem was a dupe of many others. So I won't do that again. Not sure how long I will deal with the issues. I have all the desktop search stuff enabled, which might be your problem. Try increasing the memory used under "advanced settings" of desktop search. From pwhite at bluewin.ch Wed May 23 17:03:39 2012 From: pwhite at bluewin.ch (Perry) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 19:03:39 +0200 Subject: Cloning, used to be: Re: deleting firefox 10.02 from kpackagekit in k10.10 mm In-Reply-To: References: <4FBC052A.80102@whamra.com> Message-ID: <3063139.jlVRLLM25T@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Le mercredi, 23 mai 2012 07.44:34 ray burke a écrit : > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Waleed Hamra wrote: >>... [snip] > > when I clone my k10.10mm the whole 80gb sata disc which becomes a > direct copy, using > HDClone 4.1, so I dont have to worry about clonning/restoring different > folders, and if I have a problem with anything like firefox 10.10.2 > crashing all the time when I > downloaded thru kpackagekit in my k10.10mm, I just clone of my backup > drive(exact copy of > before I installed the update and go back to using firefox 9.02, so my > clonning is exact copy > of all my disc that holds my k10.10mm(80gb) and backup k10.10mm(80gb, > clonned 1 week ago)? hope you understand waleed. > > ray Le mercredi, 23 mai 2012 07.07:52 ray burke a écrit : (concerning the original "thread") > Perry, > > I forgot to mention in my last reply that I have done what was said in > those links but still have the problem of firefox 10.02 still showing > firefox10.02 as an update? Then I'm sorry I cannot help. ----------------------------------- Thank you all for enlightening me about cloning. My question was naive because I never thought Ray would have used a specialized cloning program, as I never used such a program on Linux, where installation is so swift and easy (as opposed to M$) and doing fresh install of new versions gave me some training on how to set my preferences back in the various apps I use. Perry -- BOFH excuse #190: Proprietary Information From mdhirsch at gmail.com Wed May 23 19:35:02 2012 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:35:02 -0600 Subject: Importiing thunderbird OLD WIN to Thunderbird new linux?possible ? 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R. Evans wrote: > Basil Chupin said the following at 05/17/2012 10:57 PM : >> On 18/05/12 14:30, D. R. Evans wrote: [..............] > Finally, have you tried creating a new user and trying out k9copy as > this user? > > Yes. I even made the user (dangerously) a member of every group. Made no > difference: k9copy still wouldn't open /dev/sr0. > > My best speculation is that the act of inserting a disc into /dev/sr0 causes > some other program to grab /dev/sr0 in a way that renders it impossible for > k9copy to open the device. But that doesn't make much sense, since other > programs seem to be able to open it OK. I'm completely out of ideas at this point. > > Doc I am out of ideas..... But a friend in the Ubuntu list mentions that this sort of problem was mentioned a while back and had to do with permissions; that by doing something one overcame this hassle. He also asked if udev was still being used. Have you tried doing a search in Launchpad of the Community Documentation, as a start, re this problem? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.3.6 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Thu May 24 09:00:17 2012 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 02:00:17 -0700 Subject: Apache2 ??? Message-ID: <20120524090017.GA21793@xpresso.seaslug.org> Howdy folks; Does anyone know if apache2 comes with some sort of, "site/webpage builder", software, or is there something different, (external to apache2), for that? Bill From whyskyhigh at yahoo.de Thu May 24 11:53:00 2012 From: whyskyhigh at yahoo.de (tobias schwibingerr) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 12:53:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: <69F02EF7-8DCB-4406-974C-B0F8107F3FDE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1337860380.97526.YahooMailClassic@web171501.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Sa, 19.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details An: "Kubuntu user technical support" CC: "Kubuntu user technical support" Datum: Samstag, 19. Mai, 2012 14:52 Uhr Good morning, Tobias. I don't think there is a way to interrupt the boot unless you were to use command line (which I am not good with at all unless it is sudo). Your suggestion would probably work if you could figure out how to interrupt boot. For your second question, yes. You can install Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu on an old laptop.  good afternoonthank you for help.I am searching now hardy lubunturegardswhysky -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rtgkid at gmail.com Thu May 24 12:11:58 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 07:11:58 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: <1337860380.97526.YahooMailClassic@web171501.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1337860380.97526.YahooMailClassic@web171501.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FBE258E.1040401@gmail.com> On 05/24/2012 06:53 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > > > --- Ryan Gauger // schrieb am *Sa, 19.5.2012: > > > Von: Ryan Gauger > Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details > An: "Kubuntu user technical support" > CC: "Kubuntu user technical support" > Datum: Samstag, 19. Mai, 2012 14:52 Uhr > > Good morning, Tobias. > > I don't think there is a way to interrupt the boot unless you were > to use command line (which I am not good with at all unless it is > sudo). Your suggestion would probably work if you could figure out > how to interrupt boot. > > For your second question, yes. You can install > Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu on an old laptop. > > > > > > > > good afternoon > thank you for help. > I am searching now hardy lubuntu > regards > whysky > > > > > * > > > Good afternoon Tobias, Lubuntu has not been around that long; it has no Hardy release. Its first release was Lucid. I recommend trying out Precise on it (Precise is the latest release). It is not an LTS version, but still works just as well. I also recommend sending me individual emails regarding Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu to rtgkid at gmail.com, because this list is mainly for Kubuntu support. I will be glad to help you at my email address though if you have any questions. I am not trying to make you feel like you are not part of the community; you are, the reason for this again, simply being that this list is mainly for Kubuntu support. Thanks, and have a great rest of the day, and weekend ---when it gets here! In Christ, Ryan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From morgan.jon at gmail.com Thu May 24 13:15:36 2012 From: morgan.jon at gmail.com (Jon Morgan) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 09:15:36 -0400 Subject: Apache2 ??? In-Reply-To: <20120524090017.GA21793@xpresso.seaslug.org> References: <20120524090017.GA21793@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: Here are two WYSIWYG html/css editors you can try: Bluefish - http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html KompoZer - http://www.kompozer.net/ -jon On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Bill Vance wrote: > Howdy folks; > > Does anyone know if apache2 comes with some sort of, > "site/webpage builder", software, or is there something > different, (external to apache2), for that? > > Bill > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From rtgkid at gmail.com Thu May 24 13:22:43 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 08:22:43 -0500 Subject: Apache2 ??? In-Reply-To: References: <20120524090017.GA21793@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <4FBE3623.2000806@gmail.com> On 05/24/2012 08:15 AM, Jon Morgan wrote: > Here are two WYSIWYG html/css editors you can try: > > Bluefish - http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html > > KompoZer - http://www.kompozer.net/ > > -jon > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Bill Vance wrote: >> Howdy folks; >> >> Does anyone know if apache2 comes with some sort of, >> "site/webpage builder", software, or is there something >> different, (external to apache2), for that? >> >> Bill >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Hello Bill, How are you? I know of a Windows program, PageBreeze, and I think they make it for Linux, but I am not sure, so don't quote me on that. Thanks! In Christ, Ryan From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu May 24 14:30:36 2012 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 08:30:36 -0600 Subject: [precise] k9copy: unable to open /dev/sr0 In-Reply-To: <4FBDCBD5.2090202@iinet.net.au> References: <4FB532C7.8090406@gmail.com> <4FB5B4B7.4040909@iinet.net.au> <4FB5D07B.4020104@gmail.com> <4FB5D6CD.8000608@iinet.net.au> <4FBA4D81.9020603@gmail.com> <4FBDCBD5.2090202@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FBE460C.1040405@gmail.com> Basil Chupin said the following at 05/23/2012 11:49 PM : > I am out of ideas..... > Me too... except to switch to a different distribution, which is what I think I'm going to do. This issue, combined with the issue I posted in e-mail <4FBA5EC8.7030302 at gmail.com>, are simply too much. I need my main desktop system to be more reliable than this :-( > But a friend in the Ubuntu list mentions that this sort of problem was > mentioned a while back and had to do with permissions; that by doing > something one overcame this hassle. He also asked if udev was still > being used. 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I am not trying to make you feel like you are not part of the community; you are, the reason for this again, simply being that this list is mainly for Kubuntu support. Thanks, and have a great rest of the day, and weekend ---when it gets here! In Christ, Ryan -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: good afternoon thank You for help. I am looking now for lubuntuand maybe the new lubuntu from 2011 can boot. regards whysky -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu May 24 15:06:47 2012 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 15:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Chromium daily builds In-Reply-To: <1087486819.74270.1337871895347.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1888538002.74355.1337872007698.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Does anyone know what's going on with Chromium daily builds?  I've been using the daily build ppa for well over a year and it pretty much stopped generating daily builds at the begining of the year.  The latest version on my Linux machines is 18.0.1025.168~r134367, but I noticed that on Win7 it updated recently to v19.  The linux builds used to be (mostly) 2 versions ahead of what was current on the Winboxes. Is there a different repo for 12.04? Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bill From mikemcginn at mcginnweb.net Thu May 24 18:41:17 2012 From: mikemcginn at mcginnweb.net (Mike McGinn) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 14:41:17 -0400 Subject: Minitube Problem In-Reply-To: <20120524183404.GA8818@xpresso.seaslug.org> References: <20120524183404.GA8818@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <201205241441.18083.mikemcginn@mcginnweb.net> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 14:34:04 Bill Vance wrote: > Howdy folks; > > I got, "Minitube", a few hours ago, and since then I've > been giving mkdir some exercize, while trying to figure > it out. > > It's supposed to be a way of watching youtube videos > without a lot of the overhead, or using flash to do it. > > When it comes up, it shows some video thumbnails down > the left side of the screen, and they jump around a > little, but thats about all that happensm except for > the error mesage: > > Phonon error: "The file or folder www.youtube.com does > not exist." 1 > > Anyone got a clue? > > Bill You don't give any version numbers, but I am running Lucid and found minitube works well when downloaded from the minitube site. The binary should be fine. Mike -- Mike McGinn FACOCM Ex Uno Plurima No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 From lahc2007 at gmail.com Thu May 24 18:43:44 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 14:43:44 -0400 Subject: Minitube Problem In-Reply-To: <20120524183404.GA8818@xpresso.seaslug.org> References: <20120524183404.GA8818@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: I've used Minitube for several years with mixed results, i.e. sometimes it works and some versions it doesn't. I think part of the problem is that YouTube makes it's money from ads and with Minitube you don't see any ads. But, look for updates and you may be pleasantly surprised. On May 24, 2012 2:35 PM, "Bill Vance" wrote: > Howdy folks; > > I got, "Minitube", a few hours ago, and since then I've > been giving mkdir some exercize, while trying to figure > it out. > > It's supposed to be a way of watching youtube videos > without a lot of the overhead, or using flash to do it. > > When it comes up, it shows some video thumbnails down > the left side of the screen, and they jump around a > little, but thats about all that happensm except for > the error mesage: > > Phonon error: "The file or folder www.youtube.com does > not exist." 1 > > Anyone got a clue? > > Bill > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The latest version on my Linux machines is 18.0.1025.168~r134367, but I noticed that on Win7 it updated recently to v19. The linux builds used to be (mostly) 2 versions ahead of what was current on the Winboxes. > > Is there a different repo for 12.04? > Paul It looks like it has not been as active the past few weeks, between 3 and 6 depending on which specific daily build ppa you used https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa I don't quickly see any news or info on why, but you can contact the team. Chrome itself via their repo is at 20.x for me. I wonder what is happening. -- clay From clay at claydoh.com Fri May 25 00:28:19 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 20:28:19 -0400 Subject: Apache2 ??? In-Reply-To: <20120524090017.GA21793@xpresso.seaslug.org> References: <20120524090017.GA21793@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <2982341.GSWCA7NU1M@lark-latitude-d630> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 02:00:17 AM Bill Vance wrote: > Howdy folks; > > Does anyone know if apache2 comes with some sort of, > "site/webpage builder", software, or is there something > different, (external to apache2), for that? > > Bill You might also consider using something along the lines of Wordpress or Joomla to build entire sites. -- clay From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri May 25 03:16:10 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 13:16:10 +1000 Subject: [precise] k9copy: unable to open /dev/sr0 In-Reply-To: <4FBE460C.1040405@gmail.com> References: <4FB532C7.8090406@gmail.com> <4FB5B4B7.4040909@iinet.net.au> <4FB5D07B.4020104@gmail.com> <4FB5D6CD.8000608@iinet.net.au> <4FBA4D81.9020603@gmail.com> <4FBDCBD5.2090202@iinet.net.au> <4FBE460C.1040405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FBEF97A.5010909@iinet.net.au> On 25/05/12 00:30, D. R. Evans wrote: > Basil Chupin said the following at 05/23/2012 11:49 PM : > >> I am out of ideas..... >> > Me too... except to switch to a different distribution, which is what I think > I'm going to do. This issue, combined with the issue I posted in e-mail > <4FBA5EC8.7030302 at gmail.com>, are simply too much. I need my main desktop > system to be more reliable than this :-( If you are thinking this way then look at the signature line below. [..................] BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.3.6 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From whyskyhigh at yahoo.de Fri May 25 11:44:33 2012 From: whyskyhigh at yahoo.de (tobias schwibingerr) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 12:44:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: firefox save In-Reply-To: <4FBEF97A.5010909@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1337946273.7055.YahooMailClassic@web171503.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> good morning how can I save files from ff? I suggest, there is a kind of session manager for save all windows and bring it to another firefox and read the information in. where can I find in Kubuntu this program? regards whysky From sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk Fri May 25 12:46:56 2012 From: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk (Sid Boyce) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 13:46:56 +0100 Subject: firefox save In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FBF7F40.6020108@blueyonder.co.uk> On 25/05/12 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > firefox save Not too clear on what you want. You can save sessions and the usual with an browser you can save files from a web page. Each user has his own ~/.mozilla directory. If your intention is to have another user using the .mozilla of another user you would have to copy it across to that user's home directory as root and change ownership as root. The idea is that every user has his own environment and access is only allowed to that user, root or any others as defined in users in /etc/group. # grep users /etc/group users:x:100: If users are added to that group then may be they can have access to read and write to another user's files but I have no tried it. e.g users:x:100:fred,tim,danny Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks From whyskyhigh at yahoo.de Fri May 25 13:17:27 2012 From: whyskyhigh at yahoo.de (tobias schwibingerr) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 14:17:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: firefox save In-Reply-To: <4FBF7F40.6020108@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <1337951847.8057.YahooMailClassic@web171503.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> --- Sid Boyce schrieb am Fr, 25.5.2012: > Von: Sid Boyce > Betreff: Re: firefox save > An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Datum: Freitag, 25. Mai, 2012 14:46 Uhr > On 25/05/12 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > wrote: > > firefox save > Not too clear on what you want. > > You can save sessions and the usual with an browser you can > save files from a web page. > > Each user has his own ~/.mozilla directory. > If your intention is to have another user using the .mozilla > of another user you would have to copy it across to that > user's home directory as root and change ownership as root. > > The idea is that every user has his own environment and > access is only allowed to that user, root or any others as > defined in users in /etc/group. > # grep users /etc/group > users:x:100: > If users are added to that group then may be they can have > access to read and write to another user's files but I have > no tried it. > e.g > users:x:100:fred,tim,danny > Regards > Sid. > > -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private > Pilot > Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech > Support > Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach > Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing > Tasks > > > -- kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > good afternoon. I want to transport bookmarks and the tabs. win firefox has a tool called session manager. for example. If I would now save this session and then I am opening I can see yahoo.de and bbc for example, the program "evolution" owns this tool. thank You whysky From apachelogger at ubuntu.com Fri May 25 20:52:06 2012 From: apachelogger at ubuntu.com (Harald Sitter) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 22:52:06 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2012 Message-ID: The Kubuntu Council is a group of 6 Kubuntu Members who get to vote on membership of Kubuntu Members and occasionally other decisions regarding Kubuntu. Half the council is nearing the end of their 2 year appointment so we need to hold elections for the open positions to the council. This could be you! If you are a Kubuntu Member and are willing to turn up to Kubuntu meetings as much as possible for the next couple of years do consider putting your name forward. We are particularly encouraging non-developers to put their name forward, as we feel that a less development focused council is beneficial for the Kubuntu community. To put your name forward make sure you update your wiki page and then post to this list. To nominate someone else also write to this list. It might be a good idea to first have a chat with the affected person. Please note that everyone who was nominated by someone else will have to verify their nomination. Closing date for nominations is June 9 at 23:59 UTC. The poll will start on June 10. Voting instructions will be sent to members of the kubuntu-members team with public email addresses on Launchpad directly. If you do not have a public email address in Launchpad and wish to vote, email me privately with the address you'd like used you will get a ballot as well. regards, Harald for the Kubuntu Council From rtgkid at gmail.com Fri May 25 21:40:11 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 16:40:11 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: <1337870051.71991.YahooMailClassic@web171505.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1337870051.71991.YahooMailClassic@web171505.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EED8A67-0CBE-49DA-84B5-21DE13A7A6C8@gmail.com> Good afternoon Tobias, Sorry for not getting back with you sooner. First off, I would like to affirm you for stepping up in one of your previous emails to the list by including Jesus in your email. I am sure God smiled when He saw you do that. You can download Lubuntu 12.04 at the following link: http://lubuntu.net I do not recommend running older versions of Lubuntu because you will get updates and support longer than you would with either of the 2011 releases. Thanks, and have a great rest of the week!!! In Christ, Ryan On May 24, 2012, at 9:34 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: >> >> > Good afternoon Tobias, > > Lubuntu has not been around that long; it has no Hardy release. Its first release was Lucid. I recommend trying out Precise on it (Precise is the latest release). It is not an LTS version, but still works just as well. I also recommend sending me individual emails regarding Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu to rtgkid at gmail.com, because this list is mainly for Kubuntu support. I will be glad to help you at my email address though if you have any questions. I am not trying to make you feel like you are not part of the community; you are, the reason for this again, simply being that this list is mainly for Kubuntu support. Thanks, and have a great rest of the day, and weekend ---when it gets here! > > In Christ, > Ryan > > -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > > > > good afternoon > > thank You for help. > > I am looking now for lubuntu > and maybe the new lubuntu from 2011 can boot. > > regards > > whysky > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clay at claydoh.com Fri May 25 22:02:24 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 22:02:24 +0000 Subject: Fwd: Kubuntu Council Status/Elections Message-ID: <20120525220224.585729BC2B8@vzwemconn21.vzw-prod.oz.com> Clay Weber ------Original Message------ From: Scott Kitterman To: Date: Friday, May 25, 2012 3:46:07 PM GMT-0400 Subject: Kubuntu Council Status/Elections Getting elections set up has taken longer than we thought, so rather than lose half the council membership this week, the KC has decided the existing members whose terms are about to expire should be extended three weeks to give time to prepare an election. People who've considered running for Kubuntu Council in the past should be considering it again. It is mosts certainly not just for developers. Any Kubuntu member is eligible to run. Scott K P.S. On that note, I'd appreciate it if someone who's subscribed to the user list would forward this there. -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel From clay at claydoh.com Fri May 25 22:00:07 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 22:00:07 +0000 Subject: firefox save Message-ID: <20120525220007.5033C9BC2AE@vzwemconn21.vzw-prod.oz.com> Doesn't Firefox have a syncing service similar to chrome/chromium? That would do exactly what you need iirc Clay Weber ------Original Message------ From: tobias schwibingerr To: ,"Kubuntu user technical support" Date: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:17:27 PM GMT+0100 Subject: Re: firefox save --- Sid Boyce schrieb am Fr, 25.5.2012: > Von: Sid Boyce > Betreff: Re: firefox save > An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Datum: Freitag, 25. Mai, 2012 14:46 Uhr > On 25/05/12 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > wrote: > > firefox save > Not too clear on what you want. > > You can save sessions and the usual with an browser you can > save files from a web page. > > Each user has his own ~/.mozilla directory. > If your intention is to have another user using the .mozilla > of another user you would have to copy it across to that > user's home directory as root and change ownership as root. > > The idea is that every user has his own environment and > access is only allowed to that user, root or any others as > defined in users in /etc/group. > # grep users /etc/group > users:x:100: > If users are added to that group then may be they can have > access to read and write to another user's files but I have > no tried it. > e.g > users:x:100:fred,tim,danny > Regards > Sid. > > -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private > Pilot > Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech > Support > Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach > Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing > Tasks > > > -- kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > good afternoon. I want to transport bookmarks and the tabs. win firefox has a tool called session manager. for example. If I would now save this session and then I am opening I can see yahoo.de and bbc for example, the program "evolution" owns this tool. thank You whysky -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From whyskyhigh at yahoo.de Sat May 26 06:22:13 2012 From: whyskyhigh at yahoo.de (tobias schwibingerr) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 07:22:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: AW: Kubuntu Council Elections 2012 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1338013333.19927.YahooMailClassic@web171502.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> > Kubuntu. > > Half the council is nearing the end of their 2 year good morning. Is there also a council for xubuntu or ubuntu oder lubuntu and so on or only with kubuntUß regards whysky From lorenzo.bettini at gmail.com Sat May 26 07:09:06 2012 From: lorenzo.bettini at gmail.com (Lorenzo Bettini) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 09:09:06 +0200 Subject: amarok cannot play CD Message-ID: Hi anyone experiencing this annoying problem which has been around for many years? Amarok 2.5 is still not able to play audio CDs! The CD shows up in the local collection, but with 0 tracks... Lore -- Lorenzo Bettini, PhD in Computer Science, DI, Univ. Torino HOME: http://www.lorenzobettini.it MUSIC: http://www.purplesucker.com BLOGS: http://tronprog.blogspot.com http://longlivemusic.blogspot.com From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat May 26 07:55:06 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 17:55:06 +1000 Subject: amarok cannot play CD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FC08C5A.5000308@iinet.net.au> On 26/05/12 17:09, Lorenzo Bettini wrote: > Hi > > anyone experiencing this annoying problem which has been around for > many years? Amarok 2.5 is still not able to play audio CDs! The CD > shows up in the local collection, but with 0 tracks... > > Lore > Lorenzo Bettini, PhD in Computer Science, DI, Univ. Torino HOME: http://www.lorenzobettini.it MUSIC: http://www.purplesucker.com BLOGS: http://tronprog.blogspot.com http://longlivemusic.blogspot.com Hang on for a second....amImisunderstanding somethinghere.... You are asking about a "..problem which has been around for *many* years" [my emphasis]. And you have a "PhD in Computer Science", right? Just checking that this is correct. Anything in a Linux distribution is open source. You are aware of this, right? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.4.0 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From larssonjonas1 at gmail.com Sat May 26 08:46:19 2012 From: larssonjonas1 at gmail.com (jonas larsson) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 10:46:19 +0200 Subject: firefox save In-Reply-To: <20120525220007.5033C9BC2AE@vzwemconn21.vzw-prod.oz.com> References: <20120525220007.5033C9BC2AE@vzwemconn21.vzw-prod.oz.com> Message-ID: It does. If Rekonq would have a similar sync I'd switch full time to Rekonq. B.r Jonas Den 26 maj 2012 00:23 skrev "Clay Weber" : > Doesn't Firefox have a syncing service similar to chrome/chromium? That > would do exactly what you need iirc > > Clay Weber > > ------Original Message------ > From: tobias schwibingerr > To: ,"Kubuntu user technical support" < > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> > Date: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:17:27 PM GMT+0100 > Subject: Re: firefox save > > > --- Sid Boyce schrieb am Fr, 25.5.2012: > > > Von: Sid Boyce > > Betreff: Re: firefox save > > An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Datum: Freitag, 25. Mai, 2012 14:46 Uhr > > On 25/05/12 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > > wrote: > > > firefox save > > Not too clear on what you want. > > > > You can save sessions and the usual with an browser you can > > save files from a web page. > > > > Each user has his own ~/.mozilla directory. > > If your intention is to have another user using the .mozilla > > of another user you would have to copy it across to that > > user's home directory as root and change ownership as root. > > > > The idea is that every user has his own environment and > > access is only allowed to that user, root or any others as > > defined in users in /etc/group. > > # grep users /etc/group > > users:x:100: > > If users are added to that group then may be they can have > > access to read and write to another user's files but I have > > no tried it. > > e.g > > users:x:100:fred,tim,danny > > Regards > > Sid. > > > > -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private > > Pilot > > Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech > > Support > > Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach > > Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing > > Tasks > > > > > > -- kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > good afternoon. I want to transport bookmarks and the tabs. win firefox > has a tool called session manager. for example. If I would now save this > session and then I am opening I can see yahoo.de and bbc for example, the > program "evolution" owns this tool. thank You whysky > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lorenzo.bettini at gmail.com Sat May 26 14:49:58 2012 From: lorenzo.bettini at gmail.com (Lorenzo Bettini) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 16:49:58 +0200 Subject: amarok cannot play CD In-Reply-To: <4FC08C5A.5000308@iinet.net.au> References: <4FC08C5A.5000308@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On 05/26/2012 09:55 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 26/05/12 17:09, Lorenzo Bettini wrote: >> Hi >> >> anyone experiencing this annoying problem which has been around for >> many years? Amarok 2.5 is still not able to play audio CDs! The CD >> shows up in the local collection, but with 0 tracks... >> > Hang on for a second....amImisunderstanding somethinghere.... > > You are asking about a "..problem which has been around for *many* > years" [my emphasis]. > > And you have a "PhD in Computer Science", right? > > Just checking that this is correct. > > Anything in a Linux distribution is open source. You are aware of this, > right? I'm experiencing this problem in amarok 2.5 (and in bug reports it was said that it has been fixed in version 2.5), that's why I'm asking... what's this got to do with open source? (by the way, I'm maintainer of many open source software, in particular GNU packages...) From whyskyhigh at yahoo.de Sat May 26 18:21:50 2012 From: whyskyhigh at yahoo.de (tobias schwibingerr) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 19:21:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: firefox save In-Reply-To: <20120525220007.5033C9BC2AE@vzwemconn21.vzw-prod.oz.com> Message-ID: <1338056510.91948.YahooMailClassic@web171502.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> --- Clay Weber schrieb am Sa, 26.5.2012: > Von: Clay Weber > Betreff: Re: firefox save > An: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk, "Kubuntu user technical support" , "tobias schwibingerr" > Datum: Samstag, 26. Mai, 2012 00:00 Uhr > Doesn't Firefox have a syncing > service similar to chrome/chromium?  That would do > exactly what you need iirc > > Clay Weber > good afternoon. where can I find this service. I want to add a question about ff: yesterday firefox crashed. And then I could not start again. synaptic did not start because of this mistake, because I wanted to uninstall ff. regards whysky From whyskyhigh at yahoo.de Sat May 26 19:51:19 2012 From: whyskyhigh at yahoo.de (tobias schwibingerr) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 20:51:19 +0100 (BST) Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: <4EED8A67-0CBE-49DA-84B5-21DE13A7A6C8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1338061879.43864.YahooMailClassic@web171505.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 25.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details An: "Kubuntu user technical support" CC: "Kubuntu user technical support" Datum: Freitag, 25. Mai, 2012 23:40 Uhr Good afternoon Tobias, Sorry for not getting back with you sooner. First off, I would like to affirm you for stepping up in one of your previous emails to the list by including Jesus in your email. I am sure God smiled when He saw you do that. You can download Lubuntu 12.04 at the following link: http://lubuntu.net I do not recommend running older versions of Lubuntu because you will get updates and support longer than you would with either of the 2011 releases. Thanks, and have a great rest of the week!!! In Christ,Ryan On May 24, 2012, at 9:34 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: Good afternoon Tobias, Lubuntu has not been around that long; it has no Hardy release. Its first release was Lucid. I recommend trying out Precise on it (Precise is the latest release). It is not an LTS version, but still works just as well. I also recommend sending me individual emails regarding Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu to rtgkid at gmail.com, because this list is mainly for Kubuntu support. I will be glad to help you at my email address though if you have any questions. I am not trying to make you feel like you are not part of the community; you are, the reason for this again, simply being that this list is mainly for Kubuntu support. Thanks, and have a great rest of the day, and weekend ---when it gets here! In Christ, Ryan -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: good afternoon thank You for help. I am looking now for lubuntuand maybe the new lubuntu from 2011 can boot. regards whysky -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Good afternoon.thank You for Your friendly email: I did download lubuntu and tried it a little bit at the pc of my neighbour. Is there also ubuntu xubuntu and ubuntu list? personal message to Ryan: Today we talked in our group: was Josepf a rich son of Jacob. (Genesis).regards whysky -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rtgkid at gmail.com Sun May 27 02:57:16 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 21:57:16 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: <1338061879.43864.YahooMailClassic@web171505.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1338061879.43864.YahooMailClassic@web171505.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Tobias, Did you like Lubuntu better than Kubuntu? It is definitely a lot faster than KDE on some computers, but does not have nearly as many fancy features or eye candy as Kubuntu and KDE do. You can find the Ubuntu users mailing list at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users Xubuntu users: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users Lubuntu users: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users I am only subscribed to this list, but will probably subscribe to another list also if you join another, so that I will be able to continue helping you. I am not sure if Jospeh was rich or not. What did you find out about him? In Christ, Ryan On May 26, 2012, at 2:51 PM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > > > --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am Fr, 25.5.2012: > > > > > > > Von: Ryan Gauger > Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details > An: "Kubuntu user technical support" > CC: "Kubuntu user technical support" > Datum: Freitag, 25. Mai, 2012 23:40 Uhr > > Good afternoon Tobias, > > Sorry for not getting back with you sooner. First off, I would like to affirm you for stepping up in one of your previous emails to the list by including Jesus in your email. I am sure God smiled when He saw you do that. > > You can download Lubuntu 12.04 at the following link: http://lubuntu.net > > I do not recommend running older versions of Lubuntu because you will get updates and support longer than you would with either of the 2011 releases. Thanks, and have a great rest of the week!!! > > In Christ, > Ryan > > On May 24, 2012, at 9:34 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > >>> >>> >> Good afternoon Tobias, >> >> Lubuntu has not been around that long; it has no Hardy release. Its first release was Lucid. I recommend trying out Precise on it (Precise is the latest release). It is not an LTS version, but still works just as well. I also recommend sending me individual emails regarding Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu to rtgkid at gmail.com, because this list is mainly for Kubuntu support. I will be glad to help you at my email address though if you have any questions. I am not trying to make you feel like you are not part of the community; you are, the reason for this again, simply being that this list is mainly for Kubuntu support. Thanks, and have a great rest of the day, and weekend ---when it gets here! >> >> In Christ, >> Ryan >> >> -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> good afternoon >> >> thank You for help. >> >> I am looking now for lubuntu >> and maybe the new lubuntu from 2011 can boot. >> >> regards >> >> whysky >> >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -----Integrierter Anhang folgt----- > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > Good afternoon. > thank You for Your friendly email: I did download lubuntu and tried it a little bit at the pc of my neighbour. Is there also ubuntu xubuntu and ubuntu list? > personal message to Ryan: Today we talked in our group: was Josepf a rich son of Jacob. (Genesis). > regards whysky > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From teknofreak1074 at att.net Sun May 27 03:38:54 2012 From: teknofreak1074 at att.net (Chris Sislo) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 22:38:54 -0500 Subject: I don't know if this is in the right list but DVD problems Message-ID: <4FC1A1CE.1000805@att.net> I don't know if this is right but if not a little help please. When I try to burn a DVD I get the following error Please install the following manually and try again: mplex (GStreamer plugin) vcdimager (application). I don't know if this is the right list if not please direct me to the right list but those are the list of problems I get with trying to burn a DVD. Any help would be greatly appreciated . Thanks Chris Sislo From lahc2007 at gmail.com Sun May 27 04:34:35 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 00:34:35 -0400 Subject: I don't know if this is in the right list but DVD problems In-Reply-To: <4FC1A1CE.1000805@att.net> References: <4FC1A1CE.1000805@att.net> Message-ID: Dvd burning usually works flawlessly. In order to help us help you please tell us which version of which distribution you have installed and which app you are using. Is it an internal dvd that came with the computer? Does it work with any other operating system, including Windows? On May 26, 2012 11:41 PM, "Chris Sislo" wrote: > I don't know if this is right but if not a little help please. When I try > to burn a DVD I get the following error > Please install the following manually and try again: > mplex (GStreamer plugin) > vcdimager (application). > I don't know if this is the right list if not please direct me to the > right list but those are the list of problems I get with trying to burn a > DVD. Any help would be greatly appreciated . > Thanks > Chris Sislo > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jacky.alcine at thesii.org Sun May 27 10:58:31 2012 From: jacky.alcine at thesii.org (Jacky =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Alcin=E9?=) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 06:58:31 -0400 Subject: Social Aggregation of Data Message-ID: <22309294.WxITqK8OaA@tafc-desktop> Hello KDE! I've been using KDE for quite some time and I personally really, really love the environment. Everything's nicely tucked together, especially with contact communication and what not. However, I do feel like it's missing some elements. For example, when I browse the Web via rekonq, I noticed that a menu option to share the currently viewed URL appears. By semantics, I figured that it would allow me to pick a service to send this URL to and go about my way. It opened up a composer for KMail. Now, I wasn't totally upset, I was planning on e-mailing the link anyways. But there's links that I'd like to just tweet or share on Facebook (or D*). I figured that something like a social media module of sorts with plug-ins for different platforms (could use KNewStuff to add more services) that could hook into KMainWindow or provide a special UI element that, with a specific medium of data, would redistribute the content in question. For example, if there's a image on my computer that I downloaded from my camera, without having to open Gwenview, I could just right-click the image, select "Share...", pick a service (given that the image is uploaded as well) and watch the job occur in the background. I figured it'd be a cool idea; and I'd consider working on a library with a sample application to test it out. I'm planning on starting tonight (after work) so I could [hopefully, with school] have something before Friday. I wanted to get the opinion of KDE users themselves. Ideas? Rants? Insults? :D All welcome. -- Jacky Alcine One Vision. One Purpose. We Are the Synthetic Intellect Institute http://www.thesii.org -- ------------------------------ Synthetic Intellect Institute One Vision, One Purpose Trustee at www.thesii.org ------------------------------ From teknofreak1074 at att.net Sun May 27 11:54:54 2012 From: teknofreak1074 at att.net (Chris Sislo) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 06:54:54 -0500 Subject: [Bulk] Re: I don't know if this is in the right list but DVD problems In-Reply-To: References: <4FC1A1CE.1000805@att.net> Message-ID: <4FC2160E.2050503@att.net> On 05/26/2012 11:34 PM, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: > > Dvd burning usually works flawlessly. In order to help us help you > please tell us which version of which distribution you have installed > and which app you are using. Is it an internal dvd that came with the > computer? Does it work with any other operating system, including Windows? > > On May 26, 2012 11:41 PM, "Chris Sislo" > wrote: > > I don't know if this is right but if not a little help please. > When I try to burn a DVD I get the following error > Please install the following manually and try again: > mplex (GStreamer plugin) > vcdimager (application). > I don't know if this is the right list if not please direct me to > the right list but those are the list of problems I get with > trying to burn a DVD. Any help would be greatly appreciated . > Thanks > Chris Sislo > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > I have the latest Kubuntu 12.04 and I can't use K3B cause it wont see my DVD disc and if it does it gives me errors so I am familiar with Brasero so I use that and these are the errors i get with K3B 1.The project does not contain all necessary video DVD files. Thanks, Chris 2.The resulting DVD will most likely not be playable on a Hifi DVD player. (I am not worried about that one.) 3.Could not determine size of resulting image file. So this should answer your questions about the various things I forgot in my first post except maybe what Brasero it is all I know is its from the Muon software center if that answers anything. I just want to burn a DVD and watch it on my TV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whyskyhigh at yahoo.de Sun May 27 12:10:32 2012 From: whyskyhigh at yahoo.de (tobias schwibingerr) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:10:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: Dear Ryan and Friends some thoughts of Kubuntu Newbie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1338120632.68742.YahooMailClassic@web171505.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> hello ryan peace in Jesus   Pfingsten Please give this to people   developping Kubuntu. First   1 machine this using Kubuntu. Very good. No problem. Machine is able problem Firefox 100% CPU f1 pidof kill f7 but all overs machines, 8 more, make problems. But they like XU oder U, only sometimes Lu. Our experience KUbuntu from U family most hardwarefriendly for BEGINNERS!!! 10 machines of neighbours  all using CD example now neighbour booting XU   Crashes.XUbuntu beautiful Kubuntu crashes Ubuntu crashes Just Live CD Firefox  sudo apt-get install first: every buntu likes special machine This is fine. Colors are Kubuntu. Second LIVE is NOT SAVE there should be a warning next update Autumm 2012: Sure I want to say LIVE CD, sorry, This should be the welcome: "Dear User Do You have the license to use c: ? We destroy 5 MB or 500 mb of C: with tmp files. Also after EXIT Kubuntu we ask You for save this files or delete to0000000000000000000000000 Dont destroy autoexec.bat of Win Users,because it is possible and make SMILEYS in his autoexec.bat Third I would prefer a more Quickhamburger User. This would be a nice welcome:"Welcome: Daily work (Batch files) or Newbie? or "keyboard mouse screen check You like?" or "online or hide the door?" or "I tell You , Files go in out"  Regards whysky  -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From kassube at gmx.net Sun May 27 12:47:47 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 14:47:47 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: <1338120967.27240.YahooMailClassic@web171502.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1338120967.27240.YahooMailClassic@web171502.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201205271447.48077.kassube@gmx.net> tobias schwibingerr wrote: > The question was: Where to ask about Ubuntu Family. > And if You can tell me, there is Kubuntu Lubuntu Ubuntu Maillist, You can find all *Ubuntu relates mailing lists at . Particularly these are probably what you were looking for: Nils From lahc2007 at gmail.com Sun May 27 13:08:19 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 09:08:19 -0400 Subject: [Bulk] Re: I don't know if this is in the right list but DVD problems In-Reply-To: <4FC2160E.2050503@att.net> References: <4FC1A1CE.1000805@att.net> <4FC2160E.2050503@att.net> Message-ID: As I understand it you have complete success with Brasero. If that is the case then there its no reason not to continue to use it. If I have misunderstood please let me know. Many people use apps from Ubuntu in Kubuntu etc. and vice versa. It is a great advantage of Linux to always have choices. I realize that is not solving your problem! As for k3b, the only suggestion I can make is to try removing and reinstalling KDE using synaptic or whatever app you prefer. It may then pull in the missing libraries and start to work properly. Have you tried using a live CD of any other distro? Puppy Linux is small and fast. There are also other distros that use KDE. It would be interesting, if not helpful, to see if the problem is confined to Kubuntu. Do let us know if any of this works. On May 27, 2012 7:56 AM, "Chris Sislo" wrote: > On 05/26/2012 11:34 PM, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: > > Dvd burning usually works flawlessly. In order to help us help you please > tell us which version of which distribution you have installed and which > app you are using. Is it an internal dvd that came with the computer? Does > it work with any other operating system, including Windows? > On May 26, 2012 11:41 PM, "Chris Sislo" wrote: > >> I don't know if this is right but if not a little help please. When I try >> to burn a DVD I get the following error >> Please install the following manually and try again: >> mplex (GStreamer plugin) >> vcdimager (application). >> I don't know if this is the right list if not please direct me to the >> right list but those are the list of problems I get with trying to burn a >> DVD. Any help would be greatly appreciated . >> Thanks >> Chris Sislo >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > > I have the latest Kubuntu 12.04 and I can't use K3B cause it wont see my > DVD disc and if it does it gives me errors so I am familiar with Brasero so > I use that and these are the errors i get with K3B > 1.The project does not contain all necessary video DVD files. > Thanks, > Chris > 2.The resulting DVD will most likely not be playable on a Hifi DVD player. > (I am not worried about that one.) > 3.Could not determine size of resulting image file. > So this should answer your questions about the various things I forgot in > my first post except maybe what Brasero it is all I know is its from the > Muon software center if that answers anything. I just want to burn a DVD > and watch it on my TV > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clay at claydoh.com Sun May 27 13:19:42 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 09:19:42 -0400 Subject: [Bulk] Re: I don't know if this is in the right list but DVD problems In-Reply-To: <4FC2160E.2050503@att.net> References: <4FC1A1CE.1000805@att.net> <4FC2160E.2050503@att.net> Message-ID: <1535550.RmsaHSASm4@lark-latitude-d630> > On Sunday, May 27, 2012 06:54:54 AM Chris Sislo wrote: > On 05/26/2012 11:34 PM, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: > Dvd burning usually works flawlessly. In order to help us help you please tell us which version of which distribution you have installed and which app you are using. Is it an internal dvd that came with the computer? Does it work with any other operating system, including Windows? > On May 26, 2012 11:41 PM, "Chris Sislo" wrote: > I don't know if this is right but if not a little help please. When I try to burn a DVD I get the following error Please install the following manually and try again: mplex (GStreamer plugin) vcdimager (application). I don't know if this is the right list if not please direct me to the right list but those are the list of problems I get with trying to burn a DVD. Any help would be greatly appreciated . Thanks Chris Sislo -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu- users > I have the latest Kubuntu 12.04 and I can't use K3B cause it wont see my DVD disc and if it does it gives me errors so I am familiar with Brasero so I use that and these are the errors i get with K3B 1.The project does not contain all necessary video DVD files. Thanks, Chris 2.The resulting DVD will most likely not be playable on a Hifi DVD player. (I am not worried about that one.) 3.Could not determine size of resulting image file. So this should answer your questions about the various things I forgot in my first post except maybe what Brasero it is all I know is its from the Muon software center if that answers anything. I just want to burn a DVD and watch it on my TV > What kind of video are you trying to burn? As imple video file? A backupcopy of a DVD? To create a video DVD, you first need to have all your videos and menus with the correct formats ant structures before it is burned. Brasero is telling you some of the packages you need to install in order to do this, though I do not believe Brasero itself can create, or "author", a playable DVD on its own. There are different formats for video-on-disc, one that you may try to use if you don't care about menus is a videoCD, but your DVD player must support playing these. There is a program called Devede that can create different video disc formats and even has simple menu editor for them. It takes your videos , converts them to the correct format and then creates the file structure, then you can have it create an iso image, or you can usually just point Brasero to the folder it created. There are other applications out there, but most require you already have the video in the correct format already. The interface is somewhat clunky, but there are plenty of how-to's for it out there. If you are copying a movie, K9Copy is your friend here, and if you already have the video as in iso image, well that is burned the same as one would burn a Kubuntu cd or dvd. -- Clay Weber (claydoh) http://kubuntuforums.net http://kubuntu.org http://ubuntumaine.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clay at claydoh.com Sun May 27 13:26:27 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 09:26:27 -0400 Subject: [Bulk] Re: I don't know if this is in the right list but DVD problems In-Reply-To: References: <4FC1A1CE.1000805@att.net> <4FC2160E.2050503@att.net> Message-ID: <4816161.aI6GSSD6h6@lark-latitude-d630> > On Sunday, May 27, 2012 09:08:19 AM Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: > > As I understand it you have complete success with Brasero. If that is the case then there its no reason not to continue to use it. If I have misunderstood please let me know. Many people use apps from Ubuntu in Kubuntu etc. and vice versa. It is a great advantage of Linux to always have choices. I realize that is not solving your problem! There is the chance here that as the backend that k3b uses to communicate with the hardware is having trouble that Brasero's backend may have trouble too,, especially as they both may be using the same thing behind the scenes. > As for k3b, the only suggestion I can make is to try removing and reinstalling KDE using synaptic or whatever app you prefer. It may then pull in the missing libraries and start to work properly. That will not happen, uninstalling and reinstalling things does little to nothing in fixing problems in linux. > Have you tried using a live CD of any other distro? Puppy Linux is small and fast. There are also other distros that use KDE. It would be interesting, if not helpful, to see if the problem is confined to Kubuntu. > Do let us know if any of this works. > On May 27, 2012 7:56 AM, "Chris Sislo" wrote: > > On 05/26/2012 11:34 PM, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: > Dvd burning usually works flawlessly. In order to help us help you please tell us which version of which distribution you have installed and which app you are using. Is it an internal dvd that came with the computer? Does it work with any other operating system, including Windows? > On May 26, 2012 11:41 PM, "Chris Sislo" wrote: > > I don't know if this is right but if not a little help please. When I try to burn a DVD I get the following error > Please install the following manually and try again: > mplex (GStreamer plugin) > vcdimager (application). > I don't know if this is the right list if not please direct me to the right list but those are the list of problems I get with trying to burn a DVD. Any help would be greatly appreciated . > Thanks > Chris Sislo > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > I have the latest Kubuntu 12.04 and I can't use K3B cause it wont see my DVD disc and if it does it gives me errors so I am familiar with Brasero so I use that and these are the errors i get with K3B > 1.The project does not contain all necessary video DVD files. > Thanks, > Chris > 2.The resulting DVD will most likely not be playable on a Hifi DVD player. (I am not worried about that one.) > 3.Could not determine size of resulting image file. > So this should answer your questions about the various things I forgot in my first post except maybe what Brasero it is all I know is its from the Muon software center if that answers anything. I just want to burn a DVD and watch it on my TV > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > -- Clay Weber (claydoh) http://kubuntuforums.net http://kubuntu.org http://ubuntumaine.org From clay at claydoh.com Sun May 27 13:32:08 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 09:32:08 -0400 Subject: [Bulk] Re: I don't know if this is in the right list but DVD problems In-Reply-To: <4816161.aI6GSSD6h6@lark-latitude-d630> References: <4FC1A1CE.1000805@att.net> <4816161.aI6GSSD6h6@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <1690183.0O1YfH7F5m@lark-latitude-d630> Sorry for this mangling, turning off html for my replies is mucking it up. clay On Sunday, May 27, 2012 09:26:27 AM Clay Weber wrote: > > On Sunday, May 27, 2012 09:08:19 AM Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: > > > > As I understand it you have complete success with Brasero. If that is the > > case then there its no reason not to continue to use it. If I have > misunderstood please let me know. Many people use apps from Ubuntu in > Kubuntu etc. and vice versa. It is a great advantage of Linux to always have > choices. I realize that is not solving your problem! > There is the chance here that as the backend that k3b uses to communicate > with the hardware is having trouble that Brasero's backend may have trouble > too,, especially as they both may be using the same thing behind the scenes. > > As for k3b, the only suggestion I can make is to try removing and > > reinstalling KDE using synaptic or whatever app you prefer. It may then pull > in the missing libraries and start to work properly. > That will not happen, uninstalling and reinstalling things does little to > nothing in fixing problems in linux. > > > Have you tried using a live CD of any other distro? Puppy Linux is small > > and > fast. There are also other distros that use KDE. It would be interesting, if > not helpful, to see if the problem is confined to Kubuntu. > > > Do let us know if any of this works. > > On May 27, 2012 7:56 AM, "Chris Sislo" wrote: > > > > On 05/26/2012 11:34 PM, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: > > Dvd burning usually works flawlessly. In order to help us help you please > > tell us which version of which distribution you have installed and which app > you are using. Is it an internal dvd that came with the computer? Does it > work with any other operating system, including Windows? > > > On May 26, 2012 11:41 PM, "Chris Sislo" wrote: > > > > I don't know if this is right but if not a little help please. When I try > > to > burn a DVD I get the following error > > > Please install the following manually and try again: > > mplex (GStreamer plugin) > > vcdimager (application). > > I don't know if this is the right list if not please direct me to the > > right > > list but those are the list of problems I get with trying to burn a DVD. Any > help would be greatly appreciated . > > > Thanks > > Chris Sislo > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > I have the latest Kubuntu 12.04 and I can't use K3B cause it wont see my > > DVD > disc and if it does it gives me errors so I am familiar with Brasero so I > use that and these are the errors i get with K3B > > > 1.The project does not contain all necessary video DVD files. > > Thanks, > > Chris > > 2.The resulting DVD will most likely not be playable on a Hifi DVD player. > > (I > am not worried about that one.) > > > 3.Could not determine size of resulting image file. > > So this should answer your questions about the various things I forgot in > > my > first post except maybe what Brasero it is all I know is its from the Muon > software center if that answers anything. I just want to burn a DVD and > watch it on my TV > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > Clay Weber (claydoh) > http://kubuntuforums.net > http://kubuntu.org > http://ubuntumaine.org -- clay From clay at claydoh.com Sun May 27 13:40:51 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 09:40:51 -0400 Subject: [Bulk] Re: I don't know if this is in the right list but DVD problems In-Reply-To: <1535550.RmsaHSASm4@lark-latitude-d630> References: <4FC1A1CE.1000805@att.net> <4FC2160E.2050503@att.net> <1535550.RmsaHSASm4@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <1786930.c6rkEO9MoN@lark-latitude-d630> > On Sunday, May 27, 2012 09:19:42 AM Clay Weber wrote: > > > On Sunday, May 27, 2012 06:54:54 AM Chris Sislo wrote: > > > On 05/26/2012 11:34 PM, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: > > Dvd burning usually works flawlessly. In order to help us help you please tell us which version of which distribution you have installed and which app you are using. Is it an internal dvd that came with the computer? Does it work with any other operating system, including Windows? > > On May 26, 2012 11:41 PM, "Chris Sislo" wrote: > > > I don't know if this is right but if not a little help please. When I try to burn a DVD I get the following error > Please install the following manually and try again: > mplex (GStreamer plugin) > vcdimager (application). > I don't know if this is the right list if not please direct me to the right list but those are the list of problems I get with trying to burn a DVD. Any help would be greatly appreciated . > Thanks > Chris Sislo > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > I have the latest Kubuntu 12.04 and I can't use K3B cause it wont see my DVD disc and if it does it gives me errors so I am familiar with Brasero so I use that and these are the errors i get with K3B > 1.The project does not contain all necessary video DVD files. > Thanks, > Chris > 2.The resulting DVD will most likely not be playable on a Hifi DVD player. (I am not worried about that one.) > 3.Could not determine size of resulting image file. > So this should answer your questions about the various things I forgot in my first post except maybe what Brasero it is all I know is its from the Muon software center if that answers anything. I just want to burn a DVD and watch it on my TV > > > > > What kind of video are you trying to burn? As imple video file? A backupcopy of a DVD? > > To create a video DVD, you first need to have all your videos and menus with the correct formats ant structures before it is burned. Brasero is telling you some of the packages you need to install in order to do this, though I do not believe Brasero itself can create, or "author", a playable DVD on its own. > > There are different formats for video-on-disc, one that you may try to use if you don't care about menus is a videoCD, but your DVD player must support playing these. > > There is a program called Devede that can create different video disc formats and even has simple menu editor for them. It takes your videos , converts them to the correct format and then creates the file structure, then you can have it create an iso image, or you can usually just point Brasero to the folder it created. There are other applications out there, but most require you already have the video in the correct format already. The interface is somewhat clunky, but there are plenty of how-to's for it out there. > > If you are copying a movie, K9Copy is your friend here, and if you already have the video as in iso image, well that is burned the same as one would burn a Kubuntu cd or dvd. > > -- Oops, I did forget to mention here that brasero needs the program "vcdimager" to create a videoCD, which is probably the quickest and easiest way to get where you want to go. I do believe you can burn a videoCD to a dvd. You can easily install vcdimager using any package manager. To get the mplex gstreamer plugin, try installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse > Clay Weber (claydoh) > http://kubuntuforums.net > http://kubuntu.org > http://ubuntumaine.org > > > > -- > clay From mmtsales at gmail.com Sun May 27 17:51:05 2012 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 14:51:05 -0300 Subject: Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04 Message-ID: <1725964.dC7Bgyc4Zx@home-01> Hello, I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 64 bits fully updated and I'm experiencing some strange mouse behaviors, completely reproducible in this machine (Dell Inspiron One 2320). I have three others (vaio notebook and two Dell notebooks) where this problem does not happen. Some examples: 1. In libreoffice Calc, if I hover the mouse over the zoom control bar in the bottom right corner of Calc's window, the mouse grabs the zoom control by itself, without me clicking any button. If I move the mouse left and right, without ever touching its buttons, it drags the zoom control left and right. 2. In libreoffice Calc, if I left-click a tab other than the currently selected one, the new tab is selected as expected, but the mouse behaves as if the clicked button had stuck. When I move the mouse after selecting another tab, the mouse cursor changes to the arrow with the little rectangle, as if it was dragging a cell. 3. In Chromium, if I right-click a link and left-click "Open link in new tab", the mouse behaves as if the left-click stuck. When I move the mouse after opening the new tab, the mouse cursor changes to the little hand grabbing a sheet, as if I was moving the clicked link. 4. In Chromium, if I middle-click a link to open it in a new tab and then left-click the newly opened tab, the mouse cursor changes to the cross with arrowed points (the move window cursor) and the window is restored, as if I had started to drag it and let it go right after. Until now, I haven't noticed such mouse problems when using native KDE applications, except that sometimes I'm under the impression that the mouse cursor image is not updating correctly according to context (arrow, text insertion cursor, etc.). Any idea on what could be causing this? Thanks, Marcelo From rtgkid at gmail.com Sun May 27 17:54:57 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 12:54:57 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: <1338120967.27240.YahooMailClassic@web171502.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1338120967.27240.YahooMailClassic@web171502.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Tobias, Good afternoon. I do not totally understand the question, but I will answer to the best of my ability. Sorry if I have misunderstood. Update System means a very minor update of software packages on your system. This is completely different from a distribution upgrade. A software upgrade is a different version of software, that will most likely add new features. All Ubuntu/Kubuntu upgrades add new features to make the computer faster and easier to use. Point upgrades do not add new features, they just fix bugs. There are usually four point upgrades for an LTS (long-term support) release, although with Precise being supported for five years on both servers and desktops, I am not completely sure though. Software UPDATES (I would make that italic if I could, but I am on my iPod) can be seen as tiny upgrades, where there are usually no new features added, just bug fixes. Tell me if I failed to answer your questions correctly. Thanks! Have a great rest of the week!!! In Christ, Ryan On May 27, 2012, at 7:16 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > Good morning ryan. Thank You for help and support. This machine does like kubuntu. The question was: Where to ask about Ubuntu Family. And if You can tell me, there is Kubuntu Lubuntu Ubuntu Maillist, I know, where I can ask Shell Bash questions. Or I did not understand Update System, example Lucid and ocelot are not the same software. But all my questions, dont hurry, also other helpers. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lahc2007 at gmail.com Sun May 27 19:20:13 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 15:20:13 -0400 Subject: Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <1725964.dC7Bgyc4Zx@home-01> References: <1725964.dC7Bgyc4Zx@home-01> Message-ID: Check in System Settings, Input Devices, Mouse. It sounds like you have enabled some behaviours that you don't want. The options on that page enable/disable the ability for "hover selection" and dragging without clicking. On 27 May 2012 13:51, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 64 bits fully updated and I'm experiencing some > strange mouse behaviors, completely reproducible in this machine (Dell > Inspiron One 2320). I have three others (vaio notebook and two Dell notebooks) > where this problem does not happen. Some examples: > 1. In libreoffice Calc, if I hover the mouse over the zoom control bar in the > bottom right corner of Calc's window, the mouse grabs the zoom control by > itself, without me clicking any button. If I move the mouse left and right, > without ever touching its buttons, it drags the zoom control left and right. > 2. In libreoffice Calc, if I left-click a tab other than the currently > selected one, the new tab is selected as expected, but the mouse behaves as if > the clicked button had stuck. When I move the mouse after selecting another > tab, the mouse cursor changes to the arrow with the little rectangle, as if it > was dragging a cell. > 3. In Chromium, if I right-click a link and left-click "Open link in new tab", > the mouse behaves as if the left-click stuck. When I move the mouse after > opening the new tab, the mouse cursor changes to the little hand grabbing a > sheet, as if I was moving the clicked link. > 4. In Chromium, if I middle-click a link to open it in a new tab and then > left-click the newly opened tab, the mouse cursor changes to the cross with > arrowed points (the move window cursor) and the window is restored, as if I > had started to drag it and let it go right after. > > Until now, I haven't noticed such mouse problems when using native KDE > applications, except that sometimes I'm under the impression that the mouse > cursor image is not updating correctly according to context (arrow, text > insertion cursor, etc.). > Any idea on what could be causing this? > > Thanks, > > Marcelo > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From mmtsales at gmail.com Sun May 27 19:41:56 2012 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 16:41:56 -0300 Subject: Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04 In-Reply-To: References: <1725964.dC7Bgyc4Zx@home-01> Message-ID: <2536641.qQFdo2zNey@home-01> Em domingo, 27 de maio de 2012, às 15:20:13, Leslie Anne Chatterton escreveu: > Check in System Settings, Input Devices, Mouse. It sounds like you > have enabled some behaviours that you don't want. The options on that > page enable/disable the ability for "hover selection" and dragging > without clicking. Hi, I do not have these options there. I have three tabs: General: options here are right/left handed, invert scroll direction and single-click/double-click to open files Advanced: pointer acceleration, some time intervals and lines to roll with mouse wheel Mouse navigation: options to configure mouse cursor navigation with the keyboard Couldn't find these options you mentioned anywhere in System Settings... Thanks, Marcelo From mmtsales at gmail.com Mon May 28 00:06:38 2012 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 21:06:38 -0300 Subject: Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <1725964.dC7Bgyc4Zx@home-01> References: <1725964.dC7Bgyc4Zx@home-01> Message-ID: <1769176.0oVcmAchdS@home-01> Em domingo, 27 de maio de 2012, às 14:51:05, Marcelo Magno T. Sales escreveu: > Hello, > > I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 64 bits fully updated and I'm experiencing some > strange mouse behaviors, completely reproducible in this machine (Dell > Inspiron One 2320). I have three others (vaio notebook and two Dell > notebooks) where this problem does not happen. Some examples: > 1. In libreoffice Calc, if I hover the mouse over the zoom control bar in > the bottom right corner of Calc's window, the mouse grabs the zoom control > by itself, without me clicking any button. If I move the mouse left and > right, without ever touching its buttons, it drags the zoom control left > and right. 2. In libreoffice Calc, if I left-click a tab other than the > currently selected one, the new tab is selected as expected, but the mouse > behaves as if the clicked button had stuck. When I move the mouse after > selecting another tab, the mouse cursor changes to the arrow with the > little rectangle, as if it was dragging a cell. > 3. In Chromium, if I right-click a link and left-click "Open link in new > tab", the mouse behaves as if the left-click stuck. When I move the mouse > after opening the new tab, the mouse cursor changes to the little hand > grabbing a sheet, as if I was moving the clicked link. > 4. In Chromium, if I middle-click a link to open it in a new tab and then > left-click the newly opened tab, the mouse cursor changes to the cross with > arrowed points (the move window cursor) and the window is restored, as if I > had started to drag it and let it go right after. > > Until now, I haven't noticed such mouse problems when using native KDE > applications, except that sometimes I'm under the impression that the mouse > cursor image is not updating correctly according to context (arrow, text > insertion cursor, etc.). > Any idea on what could be causing this? I've just found out that all these problems mentioned above are related to a touchscreen device on this system. If I disable the touchscreen, all the problems go away. Now I'm trying to get rid of the problems while keeping a working touchscreen... []'s Marcelo From lahc2007 at gmail.com Mon May 28 02:07:14 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 02:07:14 +0000 Subject: Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <2536641.qQFdo2zNey@home-01> References: <1725964.dC7Bgyc4Zx@home-01> <2536641.qQFdo2zNey@home-01> Message-ID: Sorry to confuse you, I wasn't at the computer (using tablet). What I was thinking of was "Automatically select icons". As I understand it, if it's selected just hovering (staying motionless) over an icon selects it and then it behaves just as if you had clicked it. I've never used that behaviour and I don't think you want it. If that checkbox is selected then uncheck it. If not, I'm sorry but I'm lost too! I just tested that setting and it didn't seem to do anything, so I really don't know what is going on with Kubuntu. Thankfully, for me, everything works well and I don't have the problems you have experienced. Do you use some kind of proprietary mouse driver? Can't think of anything else to try. Good luck and let us know when you find the answer... "the truth is out there..." On 27 May 2012 15:41, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > Em domingo, 27 de maio de 2012, às 15:20:13, Leslie Anne Chatterton escreveu: >> Check in System Settings, Input Devices, Mouse. It sounds like you >> have enabled some behaviours that you don't want. The options on that >> page enable/disable the ability for "hover selection" and dragging >> without clicking. > > Hi, > > I do not have these options there. I have three tabs: > General: options here are right/left handed, invert scroll direction and > single-click/double-click to open files > Advanced: pointer acceleration, some time intervals and lines to roll with > mouse wheel > Mouse navigation: options to configure mouse cursor navigation with the > keyboard > > Couldn't find these options you mentioned anywhere in System Settings... > > Thanks, > > Marcelo > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From blchupin at iinet.net.au Mon May 28 02:51:16 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:51:16 +1000 Subject: [Bulk] Re: I don't know if this is in the right list but DVD problems In-Reply-To: <4FC2160E.2050503@att.net> References: <4FC1A1CE.1000805@att.net> <4FC2160E.2050503@att.net> Message-ID: <4FC2E824.7060406@iinet.net.au> On 27/05/12 21:54, Chris Sislo wrote: > On 05/26/2012 11:34 PM, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: >> >> Dvd burning usually works flawlessly. In order to help us help you >> please tell us which version of which distribution you have installed >> and which app you are using. Is it an internal dvd that came with the >> computer? Does it work with any other operating system, including >> Windows? >> >> On May 26, 2012 11:41 PM, "Chris Sislo" > > wrote: >> >> I don't know if this is right but if not a little help please. >> When I try to burn a DVD I get the following error >> Please install the following manually and try again: >> mplex (GStreamer plugin) >> vcdimager (application). >> I don't know if this is the right list if not please direct me to >> the right list but those are the list of problems I get with >> trying to burn a DVD. Any help would be greatly appreciated . >> Thanks >> Chris Sislo >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> > I have the latest Kubuntu 12.04 and I can't use K3B cause it wont see > my DVD disc and if it does it gives me errors so I am familiar with > Brasero so I use that and these are the errors i get with K3B > 1.The project does not contain all necessary video DVD files. What this is telling you is that you don't have k3b-codecs installed. [.............] BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.4.0 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From blchupin at iinet.net.au Mon May 28 02:58:14 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:58:14 +1000 Subject: Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <1725964.dC7Bgyc4Zx@home-01> References: <1725964.dC7Bgyc4Zx@home-01> Message-ID: <4FC2E9C6.3050100@iinet.net.au> On 28/05/12 03:51, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 64 bits fully updated and I'm experiencing some > strange mouse behaviors, completely reproducible in this machine (Dell > Inspiron One 2320). I have three others (vaio notebook and two Dell notebooks) > where this problem does not happen. Some examples: Sounds like it may be your video card driver. Are you using nVidia, for example, but have not installed the "proper" driver[***] - that is, still using the default nouveau driver? [***] The latest nVidia driver is 295.53. [.............] BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.4.0 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From blchupin at iinet.net.au Mon May 28 05:41:05 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:41:05 +1000 Subject: amarok cannot play CD In-Reply-To: References: <4FC08C5A.5000308@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FC30FF1.9080903@iinet.net.au> On 27/05/12 00:49, Lorenzo Bettini wrote: > On 05/26/2012 09:55 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 26/05/12 17:09, Lorenzo Bettini wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> anyone experiencing this annoying problem which has been around for >>> many years? Amarok 2.5 is still not able to play audio CDs! The CD >>> shows up in the local collection, but with 0 tracks... >>> >> Hang on for a second....amImisunderstanding somethinghere.... >> >> You are asking about a "..problem which has been around for *many* >> years" [my emphasis]. >> >> And you have a "PhD in Computer Science", right? >> >> Just checking that this is correct. >> >> Anything in a Linux distribution is open source. You are aware of this, >> right? > > I'm experiencing this problem in amarok 2.5 (and in bug reports it was > said that it has been fixed in version 2.5), that's why I'm asking... > > what's this got to do with open source? (by the way, I'm maintainer > of many open source software, in particular GNU packages...) Perhaps I could have used different way of expressing myself but you did say that the problem has been around for many years and with your obvious experience you should be able to solve it - at least for yourself by finding the erroneous code in Amarok's source code. No other sinister meaning intended :-) . BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.4.0 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From myriam at kde.org Mon May 28 10:14:54 2012 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:14:54 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2012 In-Reply-To: <1338013333.19927.YahooMailClassic@web171502.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1338013333.19927.YahooMailClassic@web171502.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 8:22 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: >> Kubuntu. >> >> Half the council is nearing the end of their 2 year > > > good morning. Is there also a council for xubuntu or ubuntu oder lubuntu and so on or only with kubuntU Yes, there is, you can find all further information in Launchpad and the various L/X/Ubuntu wiki pages. Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From myriam at kde.org Mon May 28 10:35:05 2012 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:35:05 +0200 Subject: amarok cannot play CD In-Reply-To: <4FC30FF1.9080903@iinet.net.au> References: <4FC08C5A.5000308@iinet.net.au> <4FC30FF1.9080903@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Hi everyone, On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 27/05/12 00:49, Lorenzo Bettini wrote: >> >> On 05/26/2012 09:55 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> >>> On 26/05/12 17:09, Lorenzo Bettini wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> anyone experiencing this annoying problem which has been around for >>>> many years? Amarok 2.5 is still not able to play audio CDs! The CD >>>> shows up in the local collection, but with 0 tracks... The problem is definitely fixed in the upcoming Amarok 2.6. I am playing music from a CD with Amarok as I type this :) FWIW: Amarok is indeed Free Software and anyone capable is welcome to give a hand. Our developers only have 24 hours in their days as everybody else and a day job, so all development is done in their free time which is counted. So instead of whining about a longstanding bug (which were actually several problems, not just one, and most of them not Amarok related) giving a hand in fixing it is always a good move :) BTW, there also is the possibility for bug bounties aka paying a developer to fix one particular bug, we wouldn't mind that either :) Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From mmtsales at gmail.com Mon May 28 12:09:23 2012 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 09:09:23 -0300 Subject: Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <4FC2E9C6.3050100@iinet.net.au> References: <1725964.dC7Bgyc4Zx@home-01> <4FC2E9C6.3050100@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: 2012/5/27 Basil Chupin : > On 28/05/12 03:51, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 64 bits fully updated and I'm experiencing some >> strange mouse behaviors, completely reproducible in this machine (Dell >> Inspiron One 2320). I have three others (vaio notebook and two Dell >> notebooks) >> where this problem does not happen. Some examples: > > > Sounds like it may be your video card driver. Are you using nVidia, for > example, but have not installed the "proper" driver[***] - that is, still > using the default nouveau driver? > > [***] The latest nVidia driver is 295.53. > > [.............] This system uses hybrid graphics (nvidia optimus), but I'm currently running Intel graphics only. I've seen some solutions around the net to activate and use the nvidia GPU, but haven't tried any of them yet. So far, Intel graphics is doing good for what I need, so activating the nvidia GPU is not a priority right now. After my first post, I've noticed that all those pointer problems go away if I disable the system's touchscreen device. Therefore, it seems that the mouse and the touchscreen are fighting each other. Now I'm trying to get rid of the problems while keeping a working touchscreen. Thanks, Marcelo From myriam at kubuntu.org Mon May 28 14:43:56 2012 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:43:56 +0200 Subject: Fwd: Kubuntu Council Candidacy, was Re: Kubuntu Council Elections 2012 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI, Was sent with the wrong mail address. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Myriam Schweingruber Date: Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:42 PM Subject: Kubuntu Council Candidacy, was Re: Kubuntu Council Elections 2012 To: Kubuntu user technical support Cc: Kubuntu Developer Discussion Hi everyone. On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Harald Sitter wrote: > The Kubuntu Council is a group of 6 Kubuntu Members who get to vote on > membership of Kubuntu Members and occasionally other decisions regarding > Kubuntu. > > Half the council is nearing the end of their 2 year appointment so we need > to hold elections for the open positions to the council.  This could be > you! If you are a Kubuntu Member and are willing to turn up to Kubuntu > meetings as much as possible for the next couple of years do consider > putting your name forward. > > We are particularly encouraging non-developers to put their name forward, > as we feel that a less development focused council is beneficial for > the Kubuntu community. Well, since I am one of these non-developers but nevertheless active Kubuntu members I am willing to invest more time in the future :) For those who do not know me yet: My name is Myriam Schweingruber, I am a Kubuntu users since it's very start and also an avid KDE supporter and KDE e.V. member. My main work currently is to help building up a beta tester group for KDE: http://community.kde.org/Getinvolved/Testing And in general try to improve bugs handling on http://bugs.kde.org. These two occupations are ultimately beneficial for all distributions who ship KDE :) Since several years I am one of the moderators of the kubuntu-users@ mailing list and try to give a hand in various other background tasks within the Kubuntu community like user support and channel moderation on #kubuntu in irc.freenode.net Find more information about me in my wiki profile: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MyriamSchweingruber Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Mon May 28 14:48:50 2012 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:48:50 +0100 Subject: nepomuk semantic desktop needs the virtuoso rdf Message-ID: <2875461.ARFq2moFay@rachael> Logged in to my computer today running Kubuntu 11.10 and I got a notification saying: Nepomuk semantic Desktop needs the virtuoso RDF server to store its data. Installing the Virtuoso Soprano plugin is mandatory for using Nepomuk. Any ideas what could've caused this? From rev.olson at gmail.com Mon May 28 15:32:26 2012 From: rev.olson at gmail.com (Pastor JW) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 08:32:26 -0700 Subject: [precise]: how to get kontact working? In-Reply-To: <4FBA5EC8.7030302@gmail.com> References: <4FBA5EC8.7030302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201205280832.27480.rev.olson@gmail.com> On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:27:04 am D. R. Evans wrote: > kontact worked OK in oneiric. > > Following an "upgrade" to precise, what happens is that on the GUI > interface I get a message: > > Personal Information Management system is starting > > and after about 30 seconds this changes to: > > The Akonadi personal information management service is not operational > > While this is happening, on the console I get this mess: > > [HN:~] kontact > > QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before > > QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. QDBusConnection: session > > D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may > > misbehave. kontact(2598)/libakonadi > > Akonadi::AgentManagerPrivate::createDBusInterface: AgentManager failed > > to get a valid AgentManager DBus interface. Error is: 1 > > "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner" "Could not get owner of name > > 'org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Control': no such name" Connecting to > > deprecated signal > > QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) > > kontact(2598)/libakonadi Akonadi::SessionPrivate::socketError: Socket > > error occurred: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" > > kontact(2598)/libakonadi Akonadi::SessionPrivate::socketError: Socket > > error occurred: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" search > > paths: (".", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/usr/local/sbin", > > "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/bin", "/sbin", "/bin", > > "/usr/games", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/libexec", > > "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin", > > "/opt/mysql/sbin") Found mysql_install_db: "/usr/bin/mysql_install_db" > > Found mysqlcheck: "/usr/bin/mysqlcheck" > > kontact(2598)/kdeui (KAction) KActionCollection::setComponentData: this > > does not work on a KActionCollection containing actions! [HN:~] Database > > process exited unexpectedly during initial connection! executable: > > "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi" > > arguments: ("--defaults-file=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", > > "--datadir=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", > > "--socket=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/socket-homebrew/mysql.socket") > > stdout: "" > > stderr: "120521 9:17:43 [ERROR] Can't find messagefile > > '/usr/share/mysql/errmsg.sys' " > > exit code: 1 > > process error: "Process operation timed out" > > "[ > > 0: akonadiserver() [0x419875] > > 1: akonadiserver() [0x419b3c] > > 2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x364c0) [0x7f2eefc8a4c0] > > 3: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x7f2eefc8a445] > > 4: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(abort+0x17b) [0x7f2eefc8dbab] > > 5: > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgType > > PKc+0x11b) [0x7f2ef175650b] 6: akonadiserver() [0x41bc82] > > 7: > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN9QIODevice5writeEPKcx+0xaf) > > [0x7f2ef17f2caf] 8: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(+0x119272) > > [0x7f2ef17fe272] 9: > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN11QTextStreamD1Ev+0x39) > > [0x7f2ef1807109] 10: akonadiserver() [0x412e96] > > 11: akonadiserver() [0x4a0d33] > > 12: akonadiserver() [0x41ca21] > > 13: akonadiserver() [0x41e1e5] > > 14: akonadiserver() [0x41f8e7] > > 15: akonadiserver() [0x4123f2] > > 16: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xed) > > [0x7f2eefc7576d] 17: akonadiserver() [0x412d21] > > ] > > " > > ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code 255 > > (Unknown error) search paths: (".", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/home/n7dr/bin", > > "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/bin", "/sbin", > > "/bin", "/usr/games", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", > > "/usr/local/libexec", "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", > > "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin", "/opt/mysql/sbin") Found mysql_install_db: > > "/usr/bin/mysql_install_db" > > Found mysqlcheck: "/usr/bin/mysqlcheck" > > Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection! > > executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi" > > arguments: ("--defaults-file=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", > > "--datadir=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", > > "--socket=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/socket-homebrew/mysql.socket") > > stdout: "" > > stderr: "120521 9:17:46 [ERROR] Can't find messagefile > > '/usr/share/mysql/errmsg.sys' " > > exit code: 1 > > process error: "Process operation timed out" > > "[ > > 0: akonadiserver() [0x419875] > > 1: akonadiserver() [0x419b3c] > > 2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x364c0) [0x7f47c62ae4c0] > > 3: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x7f47c62ae445] > > 4: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(abort+0x17b) [0x7f47c62b1bab] > > 5: > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgType > > PKc+0x11b) [0x7f47c7d7a50b] 6: akonadiserver() [0x41bc82] > > 7: > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN9QIODevice5writeEPKcx+0xaf) > > [0x7f47c7e16caf] 8: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(+0x119272) > > [0x7f47c7e22272] 9: > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN11QTextStreamD1Ev+0x39) > > [0x7f47c7e2b109] 10: akonadiserver() [0x412e96] > > 11: akonadiserver() [0x4a0d33] > > 12: akonadiserver() [0x41ca21] > > 13: akonadiserver() [0x41e1e5] > > 14: akonadiserver() [0x41f8e7] > > 15: akonadiserver() [0x4123f2] > > 16: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xed) > > [0x7f47c629976d] 17: akonadiserver() [0x412d21] > > ] > > " > > ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code 255 > > (Unknown error) search paths: (".", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/home/n7dr/bin", > > "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/bin", "/sbin", > > "/bin", "/usr/games", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", > > "/usr/local/libexec", "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", > > "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin", "/opt/mysql/sbin") Found mysql_install_db: > > "/usr/bin/mysql_install_db" > > Found mysqlcheck: "/usr/bin/mysqlcheck" > > Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection! > > executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi" > > arguments: ("--defaults-file=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", > > "--datadir=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", > > "--socket=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/socket-homebrew/mysql.socket") > > stdout: "" > > stderr: "120521 9:17:48 [ERROR] Can't find messagefile > > '/usr/share/mysql/errmsg.sys' " > > exit code: 1 > > process error: "Process operation timed out" > > "[ > > 0: akonadiserver() [0x419875] > > 1: akonadiserver() [0x419b3c] > > 2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x364c0) [0x7f560db824c0] > > 3: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x7f560db82445] > > 4: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(abort+0x17b) [0x7f560db85bab] > > 5: > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgType > > PKc+0x11b) [0x7f560f64e50b] 6: akonadiserver() [0x41bc82] > > 7: > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN9QIODevice5writeEPKcx+0xaf) > > [0x7f560f6eacaf] 8: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(+0x119272) > > [0x7f560f6f6272] 9: > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN11QTextStreamD1Ev+0x39) > > [0x7f560f6ff109] 10: akonadiserver() [0x412e96] > > 11: akonadiserver() [0x4a0d33] > > 12: akonadiserver() [0x41ca21] > > 13: akonadiserver() [0x41e1e5] > > 14: akonadiserver() [0x41f8e7] > > 15: akonadiserver() [0x4123f2] > > 16: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xed) > > [0x7f560db6d76d] 17: akonadiserver() [0x412d21] > > ] > > " > > ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code 255 > > (Unknown error) search paths: (".", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/home/n7dr/bin", > > "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/bin", "/sbin", > > "/bin", "/usr/games", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", > > "/usr/local/libexec", "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", > > "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin", "/opt/mysql/sbin") Found mysql_install_db: > > "/usr/bin/mysql_install_db" > > Found mysqlcheck: "/usr/bin/mysqlcheck" > > Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection! > > executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi" > > arguments: ("--defaults-file=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", > > "--datadir=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", > > "--socket=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/socket-homebrew/mysql.socket") > > stdout: "" > > stderr: "120521 9:17:49 [ERROR] Can't find messagefile > > '/usr/share/mysql/errmsg.sys' " > > exit code: 1 > > process error: "Process operation timed out" > > "[ > > 0: akonadiserver() [0x419875] > > 1: akonadiserver() [0x419b3c] > > 2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x364c0) [0x7f22149514c0] > > 3: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x7f2214951445] > > 4: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(abort+0x17b) [0x7f2214954bab] > > 5: > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgType > > PKc+0x11b) [0x7f221641d50b] 6: akonadiserver() [0x41bc82] > > 7: > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN9QIODevice5writeEPKcx+0xaf) > > [0x7f22164b9caf] 8: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(+0x119272) > > [0x7f22164c5272] 9: > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN11QTextStreamD1Ev+0x39) > > [0x7f22164ce109] 10: akonadiserver() [0x412e96] > > 11: akonadiserver() [0x4a0d33] > > 12: akonadiserver() [0x41ca21] > > 13: akonadiserver() [0x41e1e5] > > 14: akonadiserver() [0x41f8e7] > > 15: akonadiserver() [0x4123f2] > > 16: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xed) > > [0x7f221493c76d] 17: akonadiserver() [0x412d21] > > ] > > " > > ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code 255 > > (Unknown error) "akonadiserver" crashed too often and will not be > > restarted! > > Refraining with some difficulty from a rant, I simply ask... > > How do I get kontact to work in precise? I think it is related; most of my error messages are the same for kmail. It seems akonadi is nowhere near ready for use. The bad part is like you I have all my contacts and everything I use and depend on everyday tied up and unuseable in 12.04. I still have this old 10.04 distro on and older laptop so I can still use kmail, but don't have my later messages available anymore. I have not found any fixes for it so far as nothing has worked. -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW < PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From whyskyhigh at yahoo.de Mon May 28 15:50:52 2012 From: whyskyhigh at yahoo.de (tobias schwibingerr) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:50:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1338220252.76089.YahooMailClassic@web171506.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> --- Ryan Gauger schrieb am So, 27.5.2012: Von: Ryan Gauger Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details An: "Kubuntu user technical support" CC: "Kubuntu user technical support" Datum: Sonntag, 27. Mai, 2012 19:54 Uhr Tobias, Good afternoon. I do not totally understand the question, but I will answer to the best of my ability. Sorry if I have misunderstood. Update System means a very minor update of software packages on your system. This is completely different from a distribution upgrade. A software upgrade is a different version of software, that will most likely add new features. All Ubuntu/Kubuntu upgrades add new features to make the computer faster and easier to use. Point upgrades do not add new features, they just fix bugs. There are usually four point upgrades for an LTS (long-term support) release, although with Precise being supported for five years on both servers and desktops, I am not completely sure though. Software UPDATES (I would make that italic if I could, but I am on my iPod) can be seen as tiny upgrades, where there are usually no new features added, just bug fixes. Tell me if I failed to answer your questions correctly. Thanks! Have a great rest of the week!!! In Christ,Ryan On May 27, 2012, at 7:16 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: Good morning ryan. Thank You for help and support. This machine does like kubuntu. The question was: Where to ask about Ubuntu Family. And if You can tell me, there is Kubuntu Lubuntu Ubuntu Maillist, I know, where I can ask Shell Bash questions. Or I did not understand Update System, example Lucid and ocelot are not the same software. But all my questions, dont hurry, also other helpers.   goood afternoon. thank You for email. was ist minor software. for example there is gimp or mutt oder firefix. ist minor: there is an update and a modern gimp or is minor software, filled with bugs? regards whysky  -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmtsales at gmail.com Mon May 28 16:05:00 2012 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:05:00 -0300 Subject: [precise]: how to get kontact working? In-Reply-To: <201205280832.27480.rev.olson@gmail.com> References: <4FBA5EC8.7030302@gmail.com> <201205280832.27480.rev.olson@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2012/5/28 Pastor JW : > On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:27:04 am D. R. Evans wrote: >> kontact worked OK in oneiric. >> >> Following an "upgrade" to precise, what happens is that on the GUI >> interface I get a message: (...) >> Refraining with some difficulty from a rant, I simply ask... >> >> How do I get kontact to work in precise? > > I think it is related; most of my error messages are the same for kmail.   It > seems akonadi is nowhere near ready for use.  The bad part is like you I have > all my contacts and everything I use and depend on everyday tied up and > unuseable in 12.04.  I still have this old 10.04 distro on and older laptop so > I can still use kmail, but don't have my later messages available anymore. > I have not found any fixes for it so far as nothing has worked. > In Kubuntu 12.04 release notes there is this link: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/Final/Kubuntu/Kmail2 That page mentions which configuration files kde-pim uses and suggests some strategies for the migration. What I did was move all configuration files and mail directory to outside my ~/.kde, start Kontact and then import my e-mail. I didn't have to import my address book from the old files, it was already into akonadi db. I recreated all my accounts, identities and mail filters manually, and also reconfigured KMail manually to make it behave as I was used to, but KMail is now working ok (by working ok, I mean working like it was in 11.04, which was the version I was using before, with just a few aditional problems, but somewhat usable). []'s Marcelo From lahc2007 at gmail.com Mon May 28 16:09:54 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:09:54 -0400 Subject: [precise]: how to get kontact working? In-Reply-To: <201205280832.27480.rev.olson@gmail.com> References: <4FBA5EC8.7030302@gmail.com> <201205280832.27480.rev.olson@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, After seeing all the problems others have with email and contacts in Kubuntu 12.04 I'm very glad I have used Gmail, Google Calendar, Contacts etc. since 2007. I realize some people may have powerful objections to using Google products, and I respect that, but for me they are a great boon. While I have lost email etc. due to local hardware failure in the past since using Google mail etc. their backup system has automatically kept me 100% intact. I don't work for Google and hope you will take this in the spirit it is given - just as a helpful alternative way to manage these vital services. Leslie Anne On May 28, 2012 11:34 AM, "Pastor JW" wrote: > On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:27:04 am D. R. Evans wrote: > > kontact worked OK in oneiric. > > > > Following an "upgrade" to precise, what happens is that on the GUI > > interface I get a message: > > > > Personal Information Management system is starting > > > > and after about 30 seconds this changes to: > > > > The Akonadi personal information management service is not operational > > > > While this is happening, on the console I get this mess: > > > [HN:~] kontact > > > QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before > > > QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. QDBusConnection: session > > > D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may > > > misbehave. kontact(2598)/libakonadi > > > Akonadi::AgentManagerPrivate::createDBusInterface: AgentManager failed > > > to get a valid AgentManager DBus interface. Error is: 1 > > > "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner" "Could not get owner of > name > > > 'org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Control': no such name" Connecting to > > > deprecated signal > > > QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) > > > kontact(2598)/libakonadi Akonadi::SessionPrivate::socketError: Socket > > > error occurred: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" > > > kontact(2598)/libakonadi Akonadi::SessionPrivate::socketError: Socket > > > error occurred: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" search > > > paths: (".", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/home/n7dr/bin", "/usr/local/sbin", > > > "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/bin", "/sbin", "/bin", > > > "/usr/games", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/libexec", > > > "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin", > > > "/opt/mysql/sbin") Found mysql_install_db: "/usr/bin/mysql_install_db" > > > Found mysqlcheck: "/usr/bin/mysqlcheck" > > > kontact(2598)/kdeui (KAction) KActionCollection::setComponentData: this > > > does not work on a KActionCollection containing actions! [HN:~] > Database > > > process exited unexpectedly during initial connection! executable: > > > "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi" > > > arguments: > ("--defaults-file=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", > > > "--datadir=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", > > > > "--socket=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/socket-homebrew/mysql.socket") > > > stdout: "" > > > stderr: "120521 9:17:43 [ERROR] Can't find messagefile > > > '/usr/share/mysql/errmsg.sys' " > > > exit code: 1 > > > process error: "Process operation timed out" > > > "[ > > > 0: akonadiserver() [0x419875] > > > 1: akonadiserver() [0x419b3c] > > > 2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x364c0) [0x7f2eefc8a4c0] > > > 3: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x7f2eefc8a445] > > > 4: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(abort+0x17b) [0x7f2eefc8dbab] > > > 5: > > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgType > > > PKc+0x11b) [0x7f2ef175650b] 6: akonadiserver() [0x41bc82] > > > 7: > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN9QIODevice5writeEPKcx+0xaf) > > > [0x7f2ef17f2caf] 8: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(+0x119272) > > > [0x7f2ef17fe272] 9: > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN11QTextStreamD1Ev+0x39) > > > [0x7f2ef1807109] 10: akonadiserver() [0x412e96] > > > 11: akonadiserver() [0x4a0d33] > > > 12: akonadiserver() [0x41ca21] > > > 13: akonadiserver() [0x41e1e5] > > > 14: akonadiserver() [0x41f8e7] > > > 15: akonadiserver() [0x4123f2] > > > 16: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xed) > > > [0x7f2eefc7576d] 17: akonadiserver() [0x412d21] > > > ] > > > " > > > ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code 255 > > > (Unknown error) search paths: (".", "/home/n7dr/bin", > "/home/n7dr/bin", > > > "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/bin", "/sbin", > > > "/bin", "/usr/games", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", > > > "/usr/local/libexec", "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", > > > "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin", "/opt/mysql/sbin") Found mysql_install_db: > > > "/usr/bin/mysql_install_db" > > > Found mysqlcheck: "/usr/bin/mysqlcheck" > > > Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection! > > > executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi" > > > arguments: > ("--defaults-file=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", > > > "--datadir=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", > > > > "--socket=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/socket-homebrew/mysql.socket") > > > stdout: "" > > > stderr: "120521 9:17:46 [ERROR] Can't find messagefile > > > '/usr/share/mysql/errmsg.sys' " > > > exit code: 1 > > > process error: "Process operation timed out" > > > "[ > > > 0: akonadiserver() [0x419875] > > > 1: akonadiserver() [0x419b3c] > > > 2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x364c0) [0x7f47c62ae4c0] > > > 3: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x7f47c62ae445] > > > 4: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(abort+0x17b) [0x7f47c62b1bab] > > > 5: > > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgType > > > PKc+0x11b) [0x7f47c7d7a50b] 6: akonadiserver() [0x41bc82] > > > 7: > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN9QIODevice5writeEPKcx+0xaf) > > > [0x7f47c7e16caf] 8: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(+0x119272) > > > [0x7f47c7e22272] 9: > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN11QTextStreamD1Ev+0x39) > > > [0x7f47c7e2b109] 10: akonadiserver() [0x412e96] > > > 11: akonadiserver() [0x4a0d33] > > > 12: akonadiserver() [0x41ca21] > > > 13: akonadiserver() [0x41e1e5] > > > 14: akonadiserver() [0x41f8e7] > > > 15: akonadiserver() [0x4123f2] > > > 16: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xed) > > > [0x7f47c629976d] 17: akonadiserver() [0x412d21] > > > ] > > > " > > > ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code 255 > > > (Unknown error) search paths: (".", "/home/n7dr/bin", > "/home/n7dr/bin", > > > "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/bin", "/sbin", > > > "/bin", "/usr/games", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", > > > "/usr/local/libexec", "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", > > > "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin", "/opt/mysql/sbin") Found mysql_install_db: > > > "/usr/bin/mysql_install_db" > > > Found mysqlcheck: "/usr/bin/mysqlcheck" > > > Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection! > > > executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi" > > > arguments: > ("--defaults-file=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", > > > "--datadir=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", > > > > "--socket=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/socket-homebrew/mysql.socket") > > > stdout: "" > > > stderr: "120521 9:17:48 [ERROR] Can't find messagefile > > > '/usr/share/mysql/errmsg.sys' " > > > exit code: 1 > > > process error: "Process operation timed out" > > > "[ > > > 0: akonadiserver() [0x419875] > > > 1: akonadiserver() [0x419b3c] > > > 2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x364c0) [0x7f560db824c0] > > > 3: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x7f560db82445] > > > 4: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(abort+0x17b) [0x7f560db85bab] > > > 5: > > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgType > > > PKc+0x11b) [0x7f560f64e50b] 6: akonadiserver() [0x41bc82] > > > 7: > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN9QIODevice5writeEPKcx+0xaf) > > > [0x7f560f6eacaf] 8: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(+0x119272) > > > [0x7f560f6f6272] 9: > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN11QTextStreamD1Ev+0x39) > > > [0x7f560f6ff109] 10: akonadiserver() [0x412e96] > > > 11: akonadiserver() [0x4a0d33] > > > 12: akonadiserver() [0x41ca21] > > > 13: akonadiserver() [0x41e1e5] > > > 14: akonadiserver() [0x41f8e7] > > > 15: akonadiserver() [0x4123f2] > > > 16: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xed) > > > [0x7f560db6d76d] 17: akonadiserver() [0x412d21] > > > ] > > > " > > > ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code 255 > > > (Unknown error) search paths: (".", "/home/n7dr/bin", > "/home/n7dr/bin", > > > "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/bin", "/sbin", > > > "/bin", "/usr/games", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", > > > "/usr/local/libexec", "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", > > > "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin", "/opt/mysql/sbin") Found mysql_install_db: > > > "/usr/bin/mysql_install_db" > > > Found mysqlcheck: "/usr/bin/mysqlcheck" > > > Database process exited unexpectedly during initial connection! > > > executable: "/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi" > > > arguments: > ("--defaults-file=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf", > > > "--datadir=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/", > > > > "--socket=/home/n7dr/.local/share/akonadi/socket-homebrew/mysql.socket") > > > stdout: "" > > > stderr: "120521 9:17:49 [ERROR] Can't find messagefile > > > '/usr/share/mysql/errmsg.sys' " > > > exit code: 1 > > > process error: "Process operation timed out" > > > "[ > > > 0: akonadiserver() [0x419875] > > > 1: akonadiserver() [0x419b3c] > > > 2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x364c0) [0x7f22149514c0] > > > 3: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35) [0x7f2214951445] > > > 4: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(abort+0x17b) [0x7f2214954bab] > > > 5: > > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_Z17qt_message_output9QtMsgType > > > PKc+0x11b) [0x7f221641d50b] 6: akonadiserver() [0x41bc82] > > > 7: > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN9QIODevice5writeEPKcx+0xaf) > > > [0x7f22164b9caf] 8: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(+0x119272) > > > [0x7f22164c5272] 9: > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4(_ZN11QTextStreamD1Ev+0x39) > > > [0x7f22164ce109] 10: akonadiserver() [0x412e96] > > > 11: akonadiserver() [0x4a0d33] > > > 12: akonadiserver() [0x41ca21] > > > 13: akonadiserver() [0x41e1e5] > > > 14: akonadiserver() [0x41f8e7] > > > 15: akonadiserver() [0x4123f2] > > > 16: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xed) > > > [0x7f221493c76d] 17: akonadiserver() [0x412d21] > > > ] > > > " > > > ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code 255 > > > (Unknown error) "akonadiserver" crashed too often and will not be > > > restarted! > > > > Refraining with some difficulty from a rant, I simply ask... > > > > How do I get kontact to work in precise? > > I think it is related; most of my error messages are the same for kmail. > It > seems akonadi is nowhere near ready for use. The bad part is like you I > have > all my contacts and everything I use and depend on everyday tied up and > unuseable in 12.04. I still have this old 10.04 distro on and older > laptop so > I can still use kmail, but don't have my later messages available anymore. > I have not found any fixes for it so far as nothing has worked. > > > -- > 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW < PDGA# 35276 > http://the-inner-circle.org > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle > http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david.wonderly at kubuntu.org Mon May 28 23:14:11 2012 From: david.wonderly at kubuntu.org (David Wonderly) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 16:14:11 -0700 Subject: Update to the Community Message-ID: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> Hey everyone. I know that it has been a while since I have made any updates to you guys. Earlier this month, developer Jonathan Riddle and I were both at UDS (Ubuntu Developer Summit) and during that time we had a meeting with Canonical about the trademark. While not all of the paperwork is signed or finalized just yet, I wanted to update everyone on what happened and where we are at in this Trademark thing. For starters, I know that there has been a lot of talk about changing the name of Kubuntu. As of right now there are plans to change the name. Any name change talks were to prepare for a worst case scenario. Seeing how well the talks went with Canonical, I cannot see any reasons we would change our name. Another thing I want address and make very clear is the role Blue Systems is playing in Kubuntu. Blue Systems is a small company that is paying people to develop key pieces of the KDE ecosphere. This means that their role is a monetary role. They are helping to sponsor the development of Kubuntu with the hiring of Jonathan Riddell. Kubuntu is still sponsored by Canonical as well. Now I can hear everyone now, "But didn't they drop sponsorship of Kubuntu that started this whole thing?" Sort of. What Canonical dropped was COMMERCIAL support of Kubuntu. This means that companies can no longer buy paid support from Canonical for Kubuntu. It means that Jonathan Riddell was going to be reassigned within the Desktop Team at Canonical. And lastly, it means that Canonical will no longer be making Swag or Pressed CDs for Kubuntu. Canonical still pays for a lot in Kubuntu. The hosting of code and providing the infastructer that we have, provides the iso spinning services, QA tools, sponsorships to UDS, Trakemark fees for 33 countries for the name Kubuntu (not just under the *buntu protection but, full on Kubuntu) and lastly, the legal protection for all of this. So as you can see, our relationship has not chnaged all that much within the Kubuntu/Canonical relations. Yes, there has been some changes but, there are benifits to the changing as well and I firmly believe that the benifits greatly outweigh anything else. There are talks about Kubuntu being able to create a non profit foundation to become a legal entity. This will allow the Kubuntu council to push Kubuntu to new heighths and also allow us to do a few very important things. it will allow us to build a Kubuntu store and it will also allow us to take donations, money to be placed in a budget and receive finactial support. >From a developers view, we are moving from the msin repositories and inti universe. This will give us more freedom of what we can include into our distro. Overall, I think we can all see how much better and stronger we can be when this is all said and done. Working together, I am beyond confident that not only can we make Kubuntu the best KDE distro on the planet but, we can put Kubuntu on the map in very large ways. Another amazing thing that happened is that Kubuntu was given an HUGE opportunity to push Kubuntu Active (KDE Plasma Active for tablet) onto actual tablet hardware. ZaReason is a company here in the US that builds and ships computers with Linux, Ubuntu and distros, preinstalled. Later this year, they will be selling the ZaTab. It's a tablet with the same size and feel of the iPad2. It already will be shipping with CyanogenMod 9 on it. Well, we were given a couple of these tablets to development reasons so that we can also give them the option to ship Kubuntu Active 12.10 on them at the end of the year. This is very very exciting for us as it moves us ahead in the tablet ready distros. If you have any questions please, feel free to ask them. Cheers all! Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rtgkid at gmail.com Tue May 29 01:32:48 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 20:32:48 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details In-Reply-To: <1338220252.76089.YahooMailClassic@web171506.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1338220252.76089.YahooMailClassic@web171506.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FC42740.6040105@gmail.com> On 05/28/2012 10:50 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote: > > > --- Ryan Gauger // schrieb am *So, 27.5.2012: > > > Von: Ryan Gauger > Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details > An: "Kubuntu user technical support" > CC: "Kubuntu user technical support" > Datum: Sonntag, 27. Mai, 2012 19:54 Uhr > > Tobias, > > Good afternoon. I do not totally understand the question, but I > will answer to the best of my ability. Sorry if I have > misunderstood. Update System means a very minor update of software > packages on your system. This is completely different from a > distribution upgrade. A software upgrade is a different version of > software, that will most likely add new features. All > Ubuntu/Kubuntu upgrades add new features to make the computer > faster and easier to use. Point upgrades do not add new features, > they just fix bugs. There are usually four point upgrades for an > LTS (long-term support) release, although with Precise being > supported for five years on both servers and desktops, I am not > completely sure though. Software UPDATES (I would make that italic > if I could, but I am on my iPod) can be seen as tiny upgrades, > where there are usually no new features added, just bug fixes. > Tell me if I failed to answer your questions correctly. Thanks! > Have a great rest of the week!!! > > In Christ, > Ryan > > On May 27, 2012, at 7:16 AM, tobias schwibingerr > > wrote: > >> Good morning ryan. Thank You for help and support. This machine >> does like kubuntu. The question was: Where to ask about Ubuntu >> Family. And if You can tell me, there is Kubuntu Lubuntu Ubuntu >> Maillist, I know, where I can ask Shell Bash questions. Or I did >> not understand Update System, example Lucid and ocelot are not >> the same software. But all my questions, dont hurry, also other >> helpers. >> >> > > > > goood afternoon. thank You for email. was ist minor software. for > example there is gimp or mutt oder firefix. ist minor: there is an > update and a modern gimp or is minor software, filled with bugs? > regards whysky > > * > > > Good morning, Tobias. Do you mean a beta package or version of the software? Most can be added via using a PPA, through a terminal. Is there any package or software you are wanting to get the alpha/beta of? If it is Firefox, I think it is fine to update to the beta, since a lot of bugs are fixed in the Nightly/Alpha releases before beta. But if it is another app you are wanting the beta of, I recommend sticking with the current stable version unless it is a necessity to update to the beta. It is not as easy as downloading the software from the internet (although it may be with some packages, but with most, it isn't), and installing it as you would in Windows. I can help you if you need help upgrading to beta versions by adding the repository/PPA. Thanks! In Christ, Ryan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rtgkid at gmail.com Tue May 29 01:37:43 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 20:37:43 -0500 Subject: Update to the Community In-Reply-To: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> References: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> Message-ID: <4FC42867.2050503@gmail.com> On 05/28/2012 06:14 PM, David Wonderly wrote: > > Hey everyone. > > I know that it has been a while since I have made any updates to you guys. > > Earlier this month, developer Jonathan Riddle and I were both at UDS > (Ubuntu Developer Summit) and during that time we had a meeting with > Canonical about the trademark. While not all of the paperwork is > signed or finalized just yet, I wanted to update everyone on what > happened and where we are at in this Trademark thing. > > For starters, I know that there has been a lot of talk about changing > the name of Kubuntu. As of right now there are plans to change the > name. Any name change talks were to prepare for a worst case scenario. > Seeing how well the talks went with Canonical, I cannot see any > reasons we would change our name. > > Another thing I want address and make very clear is the role Blue > Systems is playing in Kubuntu. > > Blue Systems is a small company that is paying people to develop key > pieces of the KDE ecosphere. This means that their role is a monetary > role. They are helping to sponsor the development of Kubuntu with the > hiring of Jonathan Riddell. Kubuntu is still sponsored by Canonical as > well. > > Now I can hear everyone now, "But didn't they drop sponsorship of > Kubuntu that started this whole thing?" > > Sort of. > > What Canonical dropped was COMMERCIAL support of Kubuntu. This means > that companies can no longer buy paid support from Canonical for > Kubuntu. It means that Jonathan Riddell was going to be reassigned > within the Desktop Team at Canonical. And lastly, it means that > Canonical will no longer be making Swag or Pressed CDs for Kubuntu. > > Canonical still pays for a lot in Kubuntu. The hosting of code and > providing the infastructer that we have, provides the iso spinning > services, QA tools, sponsorships to UDS, Trakemark fees for 33 > countries for the name Kubuntu (not just under the *buntu protection > but, full on Kubuntu) and lastly, the legal protection for all of this. > > So as you can see, our relationship has not chnaged all that much > within the Kubuntu/Canonical relations. Yes, there has been some > changes but, there are benifits to the changing as well and I firmly > believe that the benifits greatly outweigh anything else. > > There are talks about Kubuntu being able to create a non profit > foundation to become a legal entity. This will allow the Kubuntu > council to push Kubuntu to new heighths and also allow us to do a few > very important things. it will allow us to build a Kubuntu store and > it will also allow us to take donations, money to be placed in a > budget and receive finactial support. > > From a developers view, we are moving from the msin repositories and > inti universe. This will give us more freedom of what we can include > into our distro. > > Overall, I think we can all see how much better and stronger we can be > when this is all said and done. Working together, I am beyond > confident that not only can we make Kubuntu the best KDE distro on the > planet but, we can put Kubuntu on the map in very large ways. > > Another amazing thing that happened is that Kubuntu was given an HUGE > opportunity to push Kubuntu Active (KDE Plasma Active for tablet) onto > actual tablet hardware. > > ZaReason is a company here in the US that builds and ships computers > with Linux, Ubuntu and distros, preinstalled. Later this year, they > will be selling the ZaTab. It's a tablet with the same size and feel > of the iPad2. It already will be shipping with CyanogenMod 9 on it. > Well, we were given a couple of these tablets to development reasons > so that we can also give them the option to ship Kubuntu Active 12.10 > on them at the end of the year. This is very very exciting for us as > it moves us ahead in the tablet ready distros. > > If you have any questions please, feel free to ask them. > > Cheers all! > > Dave > > > Does this mean that I will no longer be able to purchase Kubuntu pens/stickers/shirts in the Canonical Store as well? If not, I'm glad I bought some Kubuntu merchandise already! Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From teknofreak1074 at att.net Tue May 29 03:49:33 2012 From: teknofreak1074 at att.net (Chris Sislo) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 22:49:33 -0500 Subject: Problems with Brasero and burning DVD's Message-ID: <4FC4474D.1000501@att.net> I posted in the past and got little help this time I know more and I'm hoping someone can help me, anyways I thought I installed the necessary packages and I tried reinstalling and that did no good either, I want to burn a video file and when I try Brasero it says converting mpeg files to mpeg 2 so am I to get this right first I must convert either .avi, or mpeg4 files. My system is a Acer Aspire X1920 and all I need is DVD files burnt I have other things to check out that might help but I have installed all the good,bad,ugly and nice plugins from synaptic package manager and still got nowhere. From lahc2007 at gmail.com Tue May 29 04:09:30 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 04:09:30 +0000 Subject: Problems with Brasero and burning DVD's In-Reply-To: <4FC4474D.1000501@att.net> References: <4FC4474D.1000501@att.net> Message-ID: What are you starting out with that you want to make into a DVD? There are so many possibilities and each one requires a different method. On May 28, 2012 11:51 PM, "Chris Sislo" wrote: > I posted in the past and got little help this time I know more and I'm > hoping someone can help me, anyways I thought I installed the necessary > packages and I tried reinstalling and that did no good either, I want to > burn a video file and when I try Brasero it says converting mpeg files to > mpeg 2 so am I to get this right first I must convert either .avi, or mpeg4 > files. My system is a Acer Aspire X1920 and all I need is DVD files burnt I > have other things to check out that might help but I have installed all the > good,bad,ugly and nice plugins from synaptic package manager and still got > nowhere. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue May 29 10:35:37 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:35:37 +0200 Subject: KDE client (sort of) for Ubuntu One Message-ID: <4FC4A679.5030605@gmail.com> Just found this piece of info on the net: http://www.softwareontheside.info/2012/05/kde-ubuntu-one-dolphin-plugin.html am about to try it out. Best regards, Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue May 29 12:52:53 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:52:53 +0200 Subject: KDE client (sort of) for Ubuntu One In-Reply-To: <4FC4A679.5030605@gmail.com> References: <4FC4A679.5030605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FC4C6A5.6080203@gmail.com> On 29/05/12 12:35, O. Sinclair wrote: > Just found this piece of info on the net: > > http://www.softwareontheside.info/2012/05/kde-ubuntu-one-dolphin-plugin.html > > > am about to try it out. > Seems to work, you have to install ruby and ubuntuonecontrol. /Sinclair From teknofreak1074 at att.net Tue May 29 14:28:08 2012 From: teknofreak1074 at att.net (Chris Sislo) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:28:08 -0500 Subject: Problems with Brasero and burning DVD's In-Reply-To: References: <4FC4474D.1000501@att.net> Message-ID: <4FC4DCF8.2040208@att.net> On 05/28/2012 11:09 PM, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: > > What are you starting out with that you want to make into a DVD? There > are so many possibilities and each one requires a different method. > > On May 28, 2012 11:51 PM, "Chris Sislo" > wrote: > > I posted in the past and got little help this time I know more and > I'm hoping someone can help me, anyways I thought I installed the > necessary packages and I tried reinstalling and that did no good > either, I want to burn a video file and when I try Brasero it > says converting mpeg files to mpeg 2 so am I to get this right > first I must convert either .avi, or mpeg4 files. My system is a > Acer Aspire X1920 and all I need is DVD files burnt I have other > things to check out that might help but I have installed all the > good,bad,ugly and nice plugins from synaptic package manager and > still got nowhere. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > If you mean media formats I am either starting out with MPEG4 or .ogg or .avi none of them work it gets to 3MiB then stops when there is 3567MiB to do. So I don't know what else to do and remember I have the necessary plugins applied the good,bad,ugly and nice I don't know what else to do. So that is my problem any help would be nice. Thanks, Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gkourtev at gmail.com Tue May 29 14:32:49 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 17:32:49 +0300 Subject: KDE client (sort of) for Ubuntu One In-Reply-To: <4FC4C6A5.6080203@gmail.com> References: <4FC4A679.5030605@gmail.com> <4FC4C6A5.6080203@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2306493.UyNTvXdPWp@gkourtev-laptop> On Tuesday 29 May 2012 14:52:53 O. Sinclair wrote: > On 29/05/12 12:35, O. Sinclair wrote: > > Just found this piece of info on the net: > > > > http://www.softwareontheside.info/2012/05/kde-ubuntu-one-dolphin-plugin.ht > > ml > > > > > > am about to try it out. > > Seems to work, you have to install ruby and ubuntuonecontrol. > > /Sinclair Did you have to install the Gnome version first with all Gnome dependencies? gk From valtermura at gmail.com Tue May 29 16:25:16 2012 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:25:16 +0200 Subject: Problems with Brasero and burning DVD's In-Reply-To: <4FC4DCF8.2040208@att.net> References: <4FC4474D.1000501@att.net> <4FC4DCF8.2040208@att.net> Message-ID: 2012/5/29 Chris Sislo > On 05/28/2012 11:09 PM, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: > > What are you starting out with that you want to make into a DVD? There are > so many possibilities and each one requires a different method. > On May 28, 2012 11:51 PM, "Chris Sislo" wrote: > >> I posted in the past and got little help this time I know more and I'm >> hoping someone can help me, anyways I thought I installed the necessary >> packages and I tried reinstalling and that did no good either, I want to >> burn a video file and when I try Brasero it says converting mpeg files to >> mpeg 2 so am I to get this right first I must convert either .avi, or mpeg4 >> files. My system is a Acer Aspire X1920 and all I need is DVD files burnt I >> have other things to check out that might help but I have installed all the >> good,bad,ugly and nice plugins from synaptic package manager and still got >> nowhere. >> >> Kubuntu? Better K3B, then. Ciao -- Valter *Open Source is better!* KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue May 29 16:42:14 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:42:14 +0200 Subject: KDE client (sort of) for Ubuntu One In-Reply-To: <2306493.UyNTvXdPWp@gkourtev-laptop> References: <4FC4A679.5030605@gmail.com> <4FC4C6A5.6080203@gmail.com> <2306493.UyNTvXdPWp@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <4FC4FC66.40303@gmail.com> On 29/05/12 16:32, Georgi Kourtev wrote: > On Tuesday 29 May 2012 14:52:53 O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 29/05/12 12:35, O. Sinclair wrote: >>> Just found this piece of info on the net: >>> >>> http://www.softwareontheside.info/2012/05/kde-ubuntu-one-dolphin-plugin.ht >>> ml >>> >>> >>> am about to try it out. >> >> Seems to work, you have to install ruby and ubuntuonecontrol. >> >> /Sinclair > > Did you have to install the Gnome version first with all Gnome dependencies? > gk > No, just ruby and ubuntuone-controlpanel-qt. They DID pull in quite a few bits and as I use at least one gtk app already you might find it pulls in more for you. /Sinclair From lahc2007 at gmail.com Tue May 29 17:11:00 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:11:00 -0400 Subject: Problems with Brasero and burning DVD's Message-ID: Hi Chris, I don't know how much practical help it will be but look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4 for some MPEG-4 background. For ogg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg for AVI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Interleave . As you can see , none of these is a simple, uniform format, hence your difficulty in rendering these to a DVD. This leads to further questions. Where did you get the files you want to burn? Do they come from your camera/ camcorder? Downloaded from the web? In my very limited experience Divx movies, which usually have an avi extension, that can be played on a computer, phone or tablet will usually burn as data files. Several will fit on one DVD. A minority of DVD/ blu-Ray players will play the result and the quality can be as good as a commercial DVD, but sometimes not nearly as good. The standard DVD format consists of a number of .vob, .ifo and other files in a folder named video_ts; there is also an audio_ts folder, usually empty, apparently an abandoned part of the original standard retained for compatibility purposes. In spite of the scary FBI warnings DVD's can be copied for archival backup purposes fairly easily - but you do need to defeat the copy protection, which is illegal in some countries. "You shouldn't do this" ;- ( To create a standard DVD from home movies you require an authoring programme that supports the format your camera produces. I've never done this, but others have. There is free software available, I think in the repositories. While ogg is an open source standard that can be used for encoding many audio and/or video files I've only used it for audio. If it plays on an appropriate software player you just burn it or them as data files and they should play on any hardware player designed to support ogg audio. Not many do. This is hardly a satisfactory answer to your question but it should point you to some further areas you need to research. It is not a simple matter: there are many side issues you need to consider. This is not Kubuntu or Linux's fault, its just the way the standards are evolving. As you can see, "mpeg-4", "avi" and "ogg" are not sufficient to define a file you may want to work with. If you have a more sharply focused question about all the specific sub-formats that define your file then ask away. Probably someone has "been there, done that" and can help you. Ice shared all I know, which isn't much. Good luck and don't give up! As a colleague of mine told me: "Linux is not an operating system, its a way of life!" Leslie Anne On May 29, 2012 10:29 AM, "Chris Sislo" wrote: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Tue May 29 17:22:45 2012 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:52:45 -0430 Subject: Problems with Brasero and burning DVD's In-Reply-To: <4FC4474D.1000501@att.net> References: <4FC4474D.1000501@att.net> Message-ID: Hi! On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Chris Sislo wrote: > I posted in the past and got little help this time I know more and I'm > hoping someone can help me, anyways I thought I installed the necessary > packages and I tried reinstalling and that did no good either, I want to > burn a video file and when I try Brasero  it says converting mpeg files to > mpeg 2 so am I to get this right first I must convert either .avi, or mpeg4 > files. My system is a Acer Aspire X1920 and all I need is DVD files burnt I > have other things to check out that might help but I have installed all the > good,bad,ugly and nice plugins from synaptic package manager and still got > nowhere. 1. Try k3b (I like it a lot). 2. If you just want to write the files into the DVD, ie: a data DVD, you just create a "New Data Project" in k3b, and then just drag the files there, after that: burn it, and you are don. Now, if you want a DVD that you can play on any standard DVD player, you will have to create a DVD structure, and that implies converting the files to MPEG-2.... I have never done that, though, because if I want to burn videos into a DVD, I usually watch it on the computer, and if I want to watch it on the TV, I just use an USB drive, and plug it to the TV (this TV reads videos from USB). I hope this helps, Ildefonso Camargo From ivan.popivanov at gmail.com Tue May 29 23:04:27 2012 From: ivan.popivanov at gmail.com (Ivan Popivanov) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:04:27 -0400 Subject: No sound - where should I start looking? Message-ID: I have been using Kubuntu 11.10 on my T400 laptop for a while now. One thing that is not working is the complete lack of sound. The interesting part is that on the same machine, Ubuntu 11.10 had sound out of the box. In the "System Settings" - "Multimedia" - "Phonon" there are two devices for Music: 1) dCute Composite Device Analog Stereo and 2) Internal Audio Analog Stereo. Tried both - nothing. Tried removing and re-installing certain packages - nothing. Where should I start? Thanks in advance, Ivan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From myriam at kde.org Tue May 29 23:19:35 2012 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 01:19:35 +0200 Subject: No sound - where should I start looking? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ivan, On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Ivan Popivanov wrote: > I have been using Kubuntu 11.10 on my T400 laptop for a while now. One thing > that is not working is the complete lack of sound. The interesting part is > that on the same machine, Ubuntu 11.10 had sound out of the box. > > In the "System Settings" - "Multimedia" - "Phonon" there are two devices for > Music: 1) dCute Composite Device Analog Stereo and 2) Internal Audio Analog > Stereo. Tried both - nothing. Tried removing and re-installing certain > packages - nothing. Where should I start? First things first: make sure nothing is muted, either in KMix or check with Alsamixer which is a konsole tool. Then you should install the Veromix widget and Pavucontrol, since Kubuntu uses Pulseaudio by default. You shouldn't modify any settings in Phonon, besides an eventual backend switch. Of course I assume you verified you are using either the gstreamer or the vlc backend and don't use the long deprecated xine backend anymore. In case of gstreamer you will have to install the plugins for some file types like the bad and the ugly plugins to get mp3 and mp4/aac play Hope this helps. Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com Wed May 30 03:34:10 2012 From: juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com (Juan R. de Silva) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 03:34:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Update to the Community References: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> <4FC42867.2050503@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 May 2012 20:37:43 -0500, Ryan Gauger wrote: > On 05/28/2012 06:14 PM, David Wonderly wrote: >> >> Hey everyone. >> >> I know that it has been a while since I have made any updates to you >> guys. >> >> Earlier this month, developer Jonathan Riddle and I were both at UDS >> (Ubuntu Developer Summit) and during that time we had a meeting with >> Canonical about the trademark. While not all of the paperwork is signed >> or finalized just yet, I wanted to update everyone on what happened and >> where we are at in this Trademark thing. >> >> For starters, I know that there has been a lot of talk about changing >> the name of Kubuntu. As of right now there are plans to change the >> name. Any name change talks were to prepare for a worst case scenario. >> Seeing how well the talks went with Canonical, I cannot see any reasons >> we would change our name. >> >> Another thing I want address and make very clear is the role Blue >> Systems is playing in Kubuntu. >> >> Blue Systems is a small company that is paying people to develop key >> pieces of the KDE ecosphere. This means that their role is a monetary >> role. They are helping to sponsor the development of Kubuntu with the >> hiring of Jonathan Riddell. Kubuntu is still sponsored by Canonical as >> well. >> >> Now I can hear everyone now, "But didn't they drop sponsorship of >> Kubuntu that started this whole thing?" >> >> Sort of. >> >> What Canonical dropped was COMMERCIAL support of Kubuntu. This means >> that companies can no longer buy paid support from Canonical for >> Kubuntu. It means that Jonathan Riddell was going to be reassigned >> within the Desktop Team at Canonical. And lastly, it means that >> Canonical will no longer be making Swag or Pressed CDs for Kubuntu. >> >> Canonical still pays for a lot in Kubuntu. The hosting of code and >> providing the infastructer that we have, provides the iso spinning >> services, QA tools, sponsorships to UDS, Trakemark fees for 33 >> countries for the name Kubuntu (not just under the *buntu protection >> but, full on Kubuntu) and lastly, the legal protection for all of this. >> >> So as you can see, our relationship has not chnaged all that much >> within the Kubuntu/Canonical relations. Yes, there has been some >> changes but, there are benifits to the changing as well and I firmly >> believe that the benifits greatly outweigh anything else. >> >> There are talks about Kubuntu being able to create a non profit >> foundation to become a legal entity. This will allow the Kubuntu >> council to push Kubuntu to new heighths and also allow us to do a few >> very important things. it will allow us to build a Kubuntu store and it >> will also allow us to take donations, money to be placed in a budget >> and receive finactial support. >> >> From a developers view, we are moving from the msin repositories and >> inti universe. This will give us more freedom of what we can include >> into our distro. >> >> Overall, I think we can all see how much better and stronger we can be >> when this is all said and done. Working together, I am beyond confident >> that not only can we make Kubuntu the best KDE distro on the planet >> but, we can put Kubuntu on the map in very large ways. >> >> Another amazing thing that happened is that Kubuntu was given an HUGE >> opportunity to push Kubuntu Active (KDE Plasma Active for tablet) onto >> actual tablet hardware. >> >> ZaReason is a company here in the US that builds and ships computers >> with Linux, Ubuntu and distros, preinstalled. Later this year, they >> will be selling the ZaTab. It's a tablet with the same size and feel of >> the iPad2. It already will be shipping with CyanogenMod 9 on it. Well, >> we were given a couple of these tablets to development reasons so that >> we can also give them the option to ship Kubuntu Active 12.10 on them >> at the end of the year. This is very very exciting for us as it moves >> us ahead in the tablet ready distros. >> >> If you have any questions please, feel free to ask them. >> >> Cheers all! >> >> Dave >> >> >> > Does this mean that I will no longer be able to purchase Kubuntu > pens/stickers/shirts in the Canonical Store as well? If not, I'm glad I > bought some Kubuntu merchandise already! Thanks! > > http-equiv="Content-Type"> > > > On 05/28/2012 06:14 PM, David Wonderly wrote:
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Hey everyone.

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I know that it has been a > while since I have made any updates to you guys.

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Earlier this month, developer > Jonathan Riddle and I were both at UDS (Ubuntu Developer > Summit) and during that time we had a meeting with Canonical > about the trademark. While not all of the paperwork is signed > or finalized just yet, I wanted to update everyone on what > happened and where we are at in this Trademark > thing.

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For starters, I know that > there has been a lot of talk about changing the name of > Kubuntu. As of right now there are plans to change the name. > Any name change talks were to prepare for a worst case > scenario. Seeing how well the talks went with Canonical, I > cannot see any reasons we would change our name.

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Another thing I want address > and make very clear is the role Blue Systems is playing in > Kubuntu.

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Blue Systems is a small > company that is paying people to develop key pieces of the KDE > ecosphere. This means that their role is a monetary role. They > are helping to sponsor the development of Kubuntu with the > hiring of Jonathan Riddell. Kubuntu is still sponsored by > Canonical as well.

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Now I can hear everyone now, > "But didn't they drop sponsorship of Kubuntu that started this > whole thing?"

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Sort of.

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What Canonical dropped was > COMMERCIAL support of Kubuntu. This means that companies can > no longer buy paid support from Canonical for Kubuntu. It > means that Jonathan Riddell was going to be reassigned within > the Desktop Team at Canonical. And lastly, it means that > Canonical will no longer be making Swag or Pressed CDs for > Kubuntu.

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Canonical still pays for a lot > in Kubuntu. The hosting of code and providing the infastructer > that we have, provides the iso spinning services, QA tools, > sponsorships to UDS, Trakemark fees for 33 countries for the > name Kubuntu (not just under the *buntu protection but, full > on Kubuntu) and lastly, the legal protection for all of > this.

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So as you can see, our > relationship has not chnaged all that much within the > Kubuntu/Canonical relations. Yes, there has been some changes > but, there are benifits to the changing as well and I firmly > believe that the benifits greatly outweigh anything > else.

>

 

>

There are talks about Kubuntu > being able to create a non profit foundation to become a legal > entity. This will allow the Kubuntu council to push Kubuntu to > new heighths and also allow us to do a few very important > things. it will allow us to build a Kubuntu store and it will > also allow us to take donations, money to be placed in a > budget and receive finactial support.

>

 

>

From a developers view, we are > moving from the msin repositories and inti universe. This will > give us more freedom of what we can include into our distro. >

>

 

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Overall, I think we can all > see how much better and stronger we can be when this is all > said and done. Working together, I am beyond confident that > not only can we make Kubuntu the best KDE distro on the planet > but, we can put Kubuntu on the map in very large > ways.

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Another amazing thing that > happened is that Kubuntu was given an HUGE opportunity to push > Kubuntu Active (KDE Plasma Active for tablet) onto actual > tablet hardware.

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ZaReason is a company here in > the US that builds and ships computers with Linux, Ubuntu and > distros, preinstalled. Later this year, they will be selling > the ZaTab. It's a tablet with the same size and feel of the > iPad2. It already will be shipping with CyanogenMod 9 on it. > Well, we were given a couple of these tablets to development > reasons so that we can also give them the option to ship > Kubuntu Active 12.10 on them at the end of the year. This is > very very exciting for us as it moves us ahead in the tablet > ready distros.

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If you have any questions > please, feel free to ask them.

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Cheers all!

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> Does this mean that I will no longer be able to purchase Kubuntu > pens/stickers/shirts in the Canonical Store as well? If not, I'm > glad I bought some Kubuntu merchandise already! Thanks!
> > I wonder if it is really so difficult to stop posting in HTML? It's quite impossible to read your posts. Basically you hurt yourself, since a lot of Linux users just ignore such posts. Thank you. From ivan.popivanov at gmail.com Wed May 30 04:06:56 2012 From: ivan.popivanov at gmail.com (Ivan Popivanov) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 00:06:56 -0400 Subject: No sound - where should I start looking? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: After re-booting for the first time after all package install/re-installs and I have sound! Thanks, Ivan On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Ivan, > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Ivan Popivanov > wrote: > > I have been using Kubuntu 11.10 on my T400 laptop for a while now. One > thing > > that is not working is the complete lack of sound. The interesting part > is > > that on the same machine, Ubuntu 11.10 had sound out of the box. > > > > In the "System Settings" - "Multimedia" - "Phonon" there are two devices > for > > Music: 1) dCute Composite Device Analog Stereo and 2) Internal Audio > Analog > > Stereo. Tried both - nothing. Tried removing and re-installing certain > > packages - nothing. Where should I start? > > First things first: make sure nothing is muted, either in KMix or > check with Alsamixer which is a konsole tool. > > Then you should install the Veromix widget and Pavucontrol, since > Kubuntu uses Pulseaudio by default. You shouldn't modify any settings > in Phonon, besides an eventual backend switch. > > Of course I assume you verified you are using either the gstreamer or > the vlc backend and don't use the long deprecated xine backend > anymore. In case of gstreamer you will have to install the plugins for > some file types like the bad and the ugly plugins to get mp3 and > mp4/aac play > > Hope this helps. > > Regards, Myriam > -- > Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community > Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: > http://www.fsfe.org > Please don't send me proprietary file formats, > use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed May 30 07:01:18 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:01:18 +1000 Subject: Update to the Community In-Reply-To: References: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> <4FC42867.2050503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FC5C5BE.3060602@iinet.net.au> On 30/05/12 13:34, Juan R. de Silva wrote: [.............] > I wonder if it is really so difficult to stop posting in HTML? It's quite > impossible to read your posts. > > Basically you hurt yourself, since a lot of Linux users just ignore such > posts. > > Thank you. ROFL! Luv it! :-D . So concerned you are about it that you then go ahead and quote in full not only the original post but also the reply to it in HTML format! BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.4.0 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed May 30 07:15:42 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:15:42 +1000 Subject: amarok cannot play CD In-Reply-To: References: <4FC08C5A.5000308@iinet.net.au> <4FC30FF1.9080903@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FC5C91E.6050101@iinet.net.au> On 28/05/12 20:35, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi everyone, > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 27/05/12 00:49, Lorenzo Bettini wrote: >>> On 05/26/2012 09:55 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >>>> On 26/05/12 17:09, Lorenzo Bettini wrote: >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> anyone experiencing this annoying problem which has been around for >>>>> many years? Amarok 2.5 is still not able to play audio CDs! The CD >>>>> shows up in the local collection, but with 0 tracks... > The problem is definitely fixed in the upcoming Amarok 2.6. I am > playing music from a CD with Amarok as I type this :) > > FWIW: Amarok is indeed Free Software and anyone capable is welcome to > give a hand. Our developers only have 24 hours in their days as > everybody else and a day job, so all development is done in their free > time which is counted. > > So instead of whining about a longstanding bug (which were actually > several problems, not just one, and most of them not Amarok related) > giving a hand in fixing it is always a good move :) > BTW, there also is the possibility for bug bounties aka paying a > developer to fix one particular bug, we wouldn't mind that either :) > > Regards, Myriam Hi Myriam, Why are you replying to me rather than the OP who raised the issued in the first instance? In any case, there is nothing in the above containing what *I* wrote - only what the OP wrote. Kindest of regards, BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.4.0 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed May 30 07:21:35 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:21:35 +1000 Subject: Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04 In-Reply-To: References: <1725964.dC7Bgyc4Zx@home-01> <4FC2E9C6.3050100@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4FC5CA7F.2080008@iinet.net.au> On 28/05/12 22:09, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > 2012/5/27 Basil Chupin : >> On 28/05/12 03:51, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 64 bits fully updated and I'm experiencing some >>> strange mouse behaviors, completely reproducible in this machine (Dell >>> Inspiron One 2320). I have three others (vaio notebook and two Dell >>> notebooks) >>> where this problem does not happen. Some examples: >> >> Sounds like it may be your video card driver. Are you using nVidia, for >> example, but have not installed the "proper" driver[***] - that is, still >> using the default nouveau driver? >> >> [***] The latest nVidia driver is 295.53. >> >> [.............] > This system uses hybrid graphics (nvidia optimus), but I'm currently > running Intel graphics only. I've seen some solutions around the net > to activate and use the nvidia GPU, but haven't tried any of them yet. > So far, Intel graphics is doing good for what I need, so activating > the nvidia GPU is not a priority right now. > After my first post, I've noticed that all those pointer problems go > away if I disable the system's touchscreen device. Therefore, it seems > that the mouse and the touchscreen are fighting each other. Now I'm > trying to get rid of the problems while keeping a working touchscreen. > > Thanks, > > Marcelo Good luck then in your quest for the solution. But one of the things which *I* would have done is to install the proper nVidia driver which would then at least eliminate one possible cause of the problem; if this did not solve the problem then you can go on and keep looking for the cause knowing that it is not the nVidia driver. But then, you know best. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.4.0 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed May 30 08:46:21 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:46:21 +0200 Subject: Backporting of coming KDE 4.9 Message-ID: <4FC5DE5D.3090806@gmail.com> Dear all, does anyone know if KDE 4.9 will be backported to Oneiric 11.10? I am asking as 12.04 has various tics with my hardware that 11.10 did not have but I would like to be able to upgrade KDE when the day comes. Kindly, Sinclair From clay at claydoh.com Wed May 30 11:51:07 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 07:51:07 -0400 Subject: Backporting of coming KDE 4.9 In-Reply-To: <4FC5DE5D.3090806@gmail.com> References: <4FC5DE5D.3090806@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8367490.oN0bZQJmrA@lark-latitude-d630> On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:46:21 AM O. Sinclair wrote: > Dear all, > > does anyone know if KDE 4.9 will be backported to Oneiric 11.10? I am > asking as 12.04 has various tics with my hardware that 11.10 did not > have but I would like to be able to upgrade KDE when the day comes. > > Kindly, > Sinclair If past history is any indication, probably not. Backports usually only go back one version. -- clay From mdhirsch at gmail.com Wed May 30 15:44:21 2012 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 09:44:21 -0600 Subject: Social Aggregation of Data In-Reply-To: <22309294.WxITqK8OaA@tafc-desktop> References: <22309294.WxITqK8OaA@tafc-desktop> Message-ID: On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Jacky Alciné wrote: > I've been using KDE for quite some time and I personally really, really > love > the environment. Everything's nicely tucked together, especially with > contact > communication and what not. However, I do feel like it's missing some > elements. For example, when I browse the Web via rekonq, I noticed that a > menu > option to share the currently viewed URL appears. By semantics, I figured > that > it would allow me to pick a service to send this URL to and go about my > way. > > It opened up a composer for KMail. Now, I wasn't totally upset, I was > planning > on e-mailing the link anyways. But there's links that I'd like to just > tweet > or share on Facebook (or D*). I figured that something like a social media > module of sorts with plug-ins for different platforms (could use KNewStuff > to > add more services) that could hook into KMainWindow or provide a special UI > element that, with a specific medium of data, would redistribute the > content in > question. For example, if there's a image on my computer that I downloaded > from my camera, without having to open Gwenview, I could just right-click > the > image, select "Share...", pick a service (given that the image is uploaded > as > well) and watch the job occur in the background. > > Ideas? Rants? Insults? :D All welcome. > This sounds like a good idea to me. I think that this is a logical place to use a "servicemenu". A servicemenu adds an option to a menu popup. It can specify what kind of file (MIME-type) it applies to. You could set one up so that in dolphin if you right-click a file it will offer to share it. If the user chooses to share it, it is now up to your program to offer a collection of ways to share. I think that is a good idea. That is the way my phone works, and it is pretty handy. Go for it. Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stvrly at gmail.com Wed May 30 17:14:28 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:14:28 -0700 Subject: Update to the Community In-Reply-To: <4FC5C5BE.3060602@iinet.net.au> References: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> <4FC5C5BE.3060602@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1956467.eMvRRDkvIA@t520> On 2012-05-30 17:01:18 Basil Chupin wrote: > > So concerned you are about it that you then go ahead and quote in full > not only the original post but also the reply to it in HTML format! The following is not directed to any one person specifically. People have different online habits. Those who began their Internet journey adopted one set of habits, largely informed by the norms of the then-popular Usenet community. Some of these habits probably had to do with the limited storage space and narrow bandwidth of the times. Contributors to email and news threads parsed messages, carefully pruning and grafting elements so that only the necessary parts were carried through to maintain the conversation flow. Other people began their Internet journey differently. Mostly, these folk initially gained their computer experience using internal corporate systems, where storage and bandwidth were less of a concern. The tools themselves (yeah, I mean Outlook and Notes) adopted a different pattern. Top-posting and reply-all was (and is) useful in corporate settings. The ability to apply text formatting is also useful. Naturally, these people brought their behavior to the Internet when corporate networks and the Internet converged. Personally, I straddle both worlds. But I don't think it's right to expect everyone to do that. Kvetching on lists about the "proper" way to format messages is likely not to result in the desired behavior changes. In fact, it comes across as elitist and alienating. If Windows 8 turns out to be the disaster that the prognosticators appear convinced it will be, a certain percentage of Windows exiles might find their way to Kubuntu. Some of these might also find their way to this email list. They will bring with them habits gained from years of doing things the Windows way. Are these habits in some manner wrong? No, of course not. They're just different. We, then, are faced with a choice: we can either welcome them to the wonderful world that is community-driven free software, or we can drive them away. Let's not drive them away. ...Steve Riley ...administrator, Kubuntu Forums From clay at claydoh.com Wed May 30 17:37:13 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:37:13 -0400 Subject: Update to the Community In-Reply-To: <1956467.eMvRRDkvIA@t520> References: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> <4FC5C5BE.3060602@iinet.net.au> <1956467.eMvRRDkvIA@t520> Message-ID: While I do agree with you in general, there are reasons for this etiquette that have their basis more on efficiency and usability. What we need to do is be friendlier about it, point folks to the guidelines a friendly manner http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists while maintaining a level of overall friendliness. -- Clay Weber Steve Riley wrote: On 2012-05-30 17:01:18 Basil Chupin wrote: > > So concerned you are about it that you then go ahead and quote in full > not only the original post but also the reply to it in HTML format! The following is not directed to any one person specifically. People have different online habits. Those who began their Internet journey adopted one set of habits, largely informed by the norms of the then-popular Usenet community. Some of these habits probably had to do with the limited storage space and narrow bandwidth of the times. Contributors to email and news threads parsed messages, carefully pruning and grafting elements so that only the necessary parts were carried through to maintain the conversation flow. Other people began their Internet journey differently. Mostly, these folk initially gained their computer experience using internal corporate systems, where storage and bandwidth were less of a concern. The tools themselves (yeah, I mean Outlook and Notes) adopted a different pattern. Top-posting and reply-all was (and is) useful in corporate settings. The ability to apply text formatting is also useful. Naturally, these people brought their behavior to the Internet when corporate networks and the Internet converged. Personally, I straddle both worlds. But I don't think it's right to expect everyone to do that. Kvetching on lists about the "proper" way to format messages is likely not to result in the desired behavior changes. In fact, it comes across as elitist and alienating. If Windows 8 turns out to be the disaster that the prognosticators appear convinced it will be, a certain percentage of Windows exiles might find their way to Kubuntu. Some of these might also find their way to this email list. They will bring with them habits gained from years of doing things the Windows way. Are these habits in some manner wrong? No, of course not. They're just different. We, then, are faced with a choice: we can either welcome them to the wonderful world that is community-driven free software, or we can drive them away. Let's not drive them away. ...Steve Riley ...administrator, Kubuntu Forums -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com Wed May 30 17:39:04 2012 From: juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com (Juan R. de Silva) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Update to the Community References: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> <4FC42867.2050503@gmail.com> <4FC5C5BE.3060602@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: > ROFL! > > Luv it! :-D . > > So concerned you are about it that you then go ahead and quote in full > not only the original post but also the reply to it in HTML format! > > BC I did it intentionally to show how "easy" would be both to read and to post an answer - one would need to trim out all HTML. Your reaction shows I achieved the desired result. :-) From mmtsales at gmail.com Wed May 30 17:40:50 2012 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 14:40:50 -0300 Subject: Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <4FC5CA7F.2080008@iinet.net.au> References: <1725964.dC7Bgyc4Zx@home-01> <4FC5CA7F.2080008@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1881032.tt4UMlpI1I@home-01> Em quarta-feira, 30 de maio de 2012, às 17:21:35, Basil Chupin escreveu: > On 28/05/12 22:09, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > > 2012/5/27 Basil Chupin : > >> On 28/05/12 03:51, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 64 bits fully updated and I'm experiencing > >>> some > >>> strange mouse behaviors, completely reproducible in this machine (Dell > >>> Inspiron One 2320). I have three others (vaio notebook and two Dell > >>> notebooks) > >> > >>> where this problem does not happen. Some examples: > >> Sounds like it may be your video card driver. Are you using nVidia, for > >> example, but have not installed the "proper" driver[***] - that is, still > >> using the default nouveau driver? > >> > >> [***] The latest nVidia driver is 295.53. > >> > >> [.............] > > > > This system uses hybrid graphics (nvidia optimus), but I'm currently > > running Intel graphics only. I've seen some solutions around the net > > to activate and use the nvidia GPU, but haven't tried any of them yet. > > So far, Intel graphics is doing good for what I need, so activating > > the nvidia GPU is not a priority right now. > > After my first post, I've noticed that all those pointer problems go > > away if I disable the system's touchscreen device. Therefore, it seems > > that the mouse and the touchscreen are fighting each other. Now I'm > > trying to get rid of the problems while keeping a working touchscreen. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Marcelo > > Good luck then in your quest for the solution. > > But one of the things which *I* would have done is to install the proper > nVidia driver which would then at least eliminate one possible cause of > the problem; if this did not solve the problem then you can go on and > keep looking for the cause knowing that it is not the nVidia driver. > > But then, you know best. > It's not that I'm ignoring your suggestion, it's just that it's not so simple to test it. Right now, Xorg can't even see the nvidia GPU. It is "disabled", so to speak (not exactly, is on and consuming power, but it's invisible for the system). Only the Intel GPU is visible and this is the driver X loaded, not nouveau. The proper nvidia driver does not find the nvidia GPU neither. I've seen two solutions for activating the nvidia GPU in a system with nvidia optimus technology: https://github.com/MrMEEE/ironhide https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee All those transformers :) seem great, but it takes some time to make them work. This is not a priority for me at the moment and, since the nvidia GPU is invisible for the system and the loaded driver is the Intel one, it doesn't seem like the problems are caused by the video driver, specially if they all go alway when the touchscreen is off. But eventually I'll make the nvidia GPU work... Thanks, Marcelo From clay at claydoh.com Wed May 30 17:44:30 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:44:30 -0400 Subject: Update to the Community In-Reply-To: References: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> <4FC5C5BE.3060602@iinet.net.au> <1956467.eMvRRDkvIA@t520> Message-ID: <45d8c9d9-11ac-4341-947b-fc3fa3474945@email.android.com> Clay Weber wrote: While I do agree with you in general, there are reasons for this etiquette that have their basis more on efficiency and usability. What we need to do is be friendlier about it, point folks to the guidelines a friendly manner http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists while maintaining a level of overall friendliness. -- Clay Weber Steve Riley wrote: On 2012-05-30 17:01:18 Basil Chupin wrote: > > So concerned you are about it that you then go ahead and quote in full > not only the original post but also the reply to it in HTML format! The following is not directed to any one person specifically. People have different online habits. Those who began their Internet journey adopted one set of habits, largely informed by the norms of the then-popular Usenet community. Some of these habits probably had to do with the limited storage space and narrow bandwidth of the times. Contributors to email and news threads parsed messages, carefully pruning and grafting elements so that only the necessary parts were carried through to maintain the conversation flow. Other people began their Internet journey differently. Mostly, these folk initially gained their computer experience using internal corporate systems, where storage and bandwidth were less of a concern. The tools themselves (yeah, I mean Outlook and Notes) adopted a different pattern. Top-posting and reply-all was (and is) useful in corporate settings. The ability to apply text formatting is also useful. Naturally, these people brought their behavior to the Internet when corporate networks and the Internet converged. Personally, I straddle both worlds. But I don't think it's right to expect everyone to do that. Kvetching on lists about the "proper" way to format messages is likely not to result in the desired behavior changes. In fact, it comes across as elitist and alienating. If Windows 8 turns out to be the disaster that the prognosticators appear convinced it will be, a certain percentage of Windows exiles might find their way to Kubuntu. Some of these might also find their way to this email list. They will bring with them habits gained from years of doing things the Windows way. Are these habits in some manner wrong? No, of course not. They're just different. We, then, are faced with a choice: we can either welcome them to the wonderful world that is community-driven free software, or we can drive them away. Let's not drive them away. ...Steve Riley ...administrator, Kubuntu Forums -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Hehe just realized I never checked K9 mail's quote/reply settings! I just switched back to it yesterday. -- Clay Weber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stvrly at gmail.com Wed May 30 17:57:14 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:57:14 -0700 Subject: Update to the Community In-Reply-To: References: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> <1956467.eMvRRDkvIA@t520> Message-ID: <1366996.JL9NRzuNqD@t520> On 2012-05-30 13:37:13 Clay Weber wrote: > > While I do agree with you in general, there are reasons for this etiquette > that have their basis more on efficiency and usability. Hmm... so which of the guidelines did you violate? * Quoted the whole thing * Top posted * Used HTML * No indenting LOL, dude, just had to tease ya :) :) ...Steve From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed May 30 20:20:56 2012 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:20:56 +0200 Subject: Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <4FC5CA7F.2080008@iinet.net.au> References: <1725964.dC7Bgyc4Zx@home-01> <4FC2E9C6.3050100@iinet.net.au> <4FC5CA7F.2080008@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On 05/30/2012 09:21 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 28/05/12 22:09, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: >> 2012/5/27 Basil Chupin : >>> On 28/05/12 03:51, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: >>>> Hello, > > But one of the things which *I* would have done is to > install the proper nVidia driver which would then at least > eliminate one possible cause of the problem; if this did not > solve the problem then you can go on and keep looking for > the cause knowing that it is not the nVidia driver. > This does not make much sense. Hybrid graphics means that you can select "Intel"; "Nvidia" and "Switch according to graphics power that is needed". At least some of the Vaios at the company I do work for, are layed out like this. As long as he is unsing "Intel", this in fact is an Intel Laptop with Intel Graphics. No Nvidia and no Nvidia Driver needed or used. Eberhard > But then, you know best. > > BC > From juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com Wed May 30 23:12:55 2012 From: juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com (Juan R. de Silva) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 23:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Update to the Community References: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> <4FC5C5BE.3060602@iinet.net.au> <1956467.eMvRRDkvIA@t520> Message-ID: > People have different online habits. Those who began their Internet > journey adopted one set of habits, largely informed by the norms of the > then-popular Usenet community. Some of these habits probably had to do > with the limited storage space and narrow bandwidth of the times. While it mostly true that the mentioned habits originated in mentioned "then" realities, it is also true that these habits aimed usability, meaning the time spent on reading and responding in first place. And this is probably the main reason why these habits outlived their original constrains and successfully migrated to new realities. Increased storage space and bandwidth do not mean people are ready to spend their personal time "fishing" for the actual poster's message between all HTML tags. > Naturally, these people > brought their behavior to the Internet when corporate networks and the > Internet converged. It might be very natural for them but it is not necessarily natural for the community they just joined. See for the main reason above. IMHO, when people join a new to them community and look for assistance from its members, it seems to be also natural to respect time and efforts of those who they are expecting to provide such assistance. > Personally, I straddle both worlds. But I don't think it's right to > expect everyone to do that. Kvetching on lists about the "proper" way to > format messages is likely not to result in the desired behavior changes. > In fact, it comes across as elitist and alienating. Well, first of all, it's not quite right to use words like "kvetching". This DOES "comes across as elitist and alienating". If you read my post again you'd see that I just suggested that posting in HTML was actually the best way for "alienating" a significant portion of the community that is capable and would be willing to provide an assistance. And BTW isn't it true that the existent posting etiquette does suggests not HTML formatting as a PROPER one? > If Windows 8 turns out to be the disaster that the prognosticators > appear convinced it will be, a certain percentage of Windows exiles > might find their way to Kubuntu. Some of these might also find their way > to this email list. They will bring with them habits gained from years > of doing things the Windows way. Are these habits in some manner wrong? > No, of course not. They're just different. With you permission, I would strongly disagree with you on this. Consider a simple example. People used to drive along the left hand road side in UK. Some of them comes to another country where cars move along right hand road side. Imagine now he/she would attempt to keep his/her habits... Would it be "just different"? Or would it be wrong? You see, "just different" at times can be just wrong. > We, then, are faced with a > choice: we can either welcome them to the wonderful world that is > community-driven free software, or we can drive them away. Let's not > drive them away. Agree with every single word. But let welcome them by helping to understand how Linux community in large lives and why it is for their own benefit to accept and to adapt to certain "habits" of this community. Yes, we can certainly "welcome" them by not letting them know about existence of a posting etiquette. But wouldn't it be wrong? Wouldn't it mean alienating them instead? Is it really the best way to welcome newcomers by slowly eroding the community etiquette. From clay at claydoh.com Wed May 30 23:43:18 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 19:43:18 -0400 Subject: etiquette (again) was: Re: Update to the Community In-Reply-To: References: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> <1956467.eMvRRDkvIA@t520> Message-ID: <7011835.KfqMLY3Yir@lark-latitude-d630> While there are some rules about the etiquette, a couple of major notes to consider: 1) Most every email client defaults to html, and replies are often defaulted to using the format of the message replied to. 2) There is a message size limit that prevents most images from being attached already. 3) Who actually reads the welcome message sent? Obviously not enough :) 4) Be friendly ;) ( I read the alienation comment as meant to be a bit snarky, but thankfully I was wrong) 5) We are too small a list to be worried so much about etiquette 24/7 in regards to html. 6) However, formatting replies and trimming quotes sure makes it easier for everyone to get to the meaty goodness. 7) It has been quite a while, 2009 if gmane's search is doing a proper job of it, since this subject has come up in a significant way so I don't think there has been any real issue with all the html mail we have received in that time. 8) See #6 9) See #4 -- clay (claydoh) wearing my list admin hat From rtgkid at gmail.com Thu May 31 03:05:28 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:05:28 -0500 Subject: Update to the Community In-Reply-To: References: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> <4FC5C5BE.3060602@iinet.net.au> <1956467.eMvRRDkvIA@t520> Message-ID: <45F59BF1-4708-4EF1-AF61-7A96F0E20CC2@gmail.com> What does all of this have to do with the original email? On May 30, 2012, at 6:12 PM, "Juan R. de Silva" wrote: >> People have different online habits. Those who began their Internet >> journey adopted one set of habits, largely informed by the norms of the >> then-popular Usenet community. Some of these habits probably had to do >> with the limited storage space and narrow bandwidth of the times. > > While it mostly true that the mentioned habits originated in mentioned > "then" realities, it is also true that these habits aimed usability, > meaning the time spent on reading and responding in first place. And this > is probably the main reason why these habits outlived their original > constrains and successfully migrated to new realities. > > Increased storage space and bandwidth do not mean people are ready to > spend their personal time "fishing" for the actual poster's message > between all HTML tags. > >> Naturally, these people >> brought their behavior to the Internet when corporate networks and the >> Internet converged. > > It might be very natural for them but it is not necessarily natural for > the community they just joined. See for the main reason above. > > IMHO, when people join a new to them community and look for assistance > from its members, it seems to be also natural to respect time and efforts > of those who they are expecting to provide such assistance. > >> Personally, I straddle both worlds. But I don't think it's right to >> expect everyone to do that. Kvetching on lists about the "proper" way to >> format messages is likely not to result in the desired behavior changes. >> In fact, it comes across as elitist and alienating. > > Well, first of all, it's not quite right to use words like "kvetching". > This DOES "comes across as elitist and alienating". > > If you read my post again you'd see that I just suggested that posting in > HTML was actually the best way for "alienating" a significant portion of > the community that is capable and would be willing to provide an > assistance. > > And BTW isn't it true that the existent posting etiquette does suggests > not HTML formatting as a PROPER one? > >> If Windows 8 turns out to be the disaster that the prognosticators >> appear convinced it will be, a certain percentage of Windows exiles >> might find their way to Kubuntu. Some of these might also find their way >> to this email list. They will bring with them habits gained from years >> of doing things the Windows way. Are these habits in some manner wrong? >> No, of course not. They're just different. > > With you permission, I would strongly disagree with you on this. > > Consider a simple example. People used to drive along the left hand road > side in UK. Some of them comes to another country where cars move along > right hand road side. Imagine now he/she would attempt to keep his/her > habits... > > Would it be "just different"? Or would it be wrong? > > You see, "just different" at times can be just wrong. > >> We, then, are faced with a >> choice: we can either welcome them to the wonderful world that is >> community-driven free software, or we can drive them away. Let's not >> drive them away. > > Agree with every single word. > > But let welcome them by helping to understand how Linux community in > large lives and why it is for their own benefit to accept and to adapt to > certain "habits" of this community. > > Yes, we can certainly "welcome" them by not letting them know about > existence of a posting etiquette. But wouldn't it be wrong? Wouldn't it > mean alienating them instead? > > Is it really the best way to welcome newcomers by slowly eroding the > community etiquette. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From lahc2007 at gmail.com Thu May 31 03:19:19 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 23:19:19 -0400 Subject: Update to the Community In-Reply-To: <45F59BF1-4708-4EF1-AF61-7A96F0E20CC2@gmail.com> References: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> <4FC5C5BE.3060602@iinet.net.au> <1956467.eMvRRDkvIA@t520> <45F59BF1-4708-4EF1-AF61-7A96F0E20CC2@gmail.com> Message-ID: Agreed, we need to get back to discussion of technical issues. On May 30, 2012 11:07 PM, "Ryan Gauger" wrote: > What does all of this have to do with the original email? > > On May 30, 2012, at 6:12 PM, "Juan R. de Silva" > wrote: > > >> People have different online habits. Those who began their Internet > >> journey adopted one set of habits, largely informed by the norms of the > >> then-popular Usenet community. Some of these habits probably had to do > >> with the limited storage space and narrow bandwidth of the times. > > > > While it mostly true that the mentioned habits originated in mentioned > > "then" realities, it is also true that these habits aimed usability, > > meaning the time spent on reading and responding in first place. And this > > is probably the main reason why these habits outlived their original > > constrains and successfully migrated to new realities. > > > > Increased storage space and bandwidth do not mean people are ready to > > spend their personal time "fishing" for the actual poster's message > > between all HTML tags. > > > >> Naturally, these people > >> brought their behavior to the Internet when corporate networks and the > >> Internet converged. > > > > It might be very natural for them but it is not necessarily natural for > > the community they just joined. See for the main reason above. > > > > IMHO, when people join a new to them community and look for assistance > > from its members, it seems to be also natural to respect time and efforts > > of those who they are expecting to provide such assistance. > > > >> Personally, I straddle both worlds. But I don't think it's right to > >> expect everyone to do that. Kvetching on lists about the "proper" way to > >> format messages is likely not to result in the desired behavior changes. > >> In fact, it comes across as elitist and alienating. > > > > Well, first of all, it's not quite right to use words like "kvetching". > > This DOES "comes across as elitist and alienating". > > > > If you read my post again you'd see that I just suggested that posting in > > HTML was actually the best way for "alienating" a significant portion of > > the community that is capable and would be willing to provide an > > assistance. > > > > And BTW isn't it true that the existent posting etiquette does suggests > > not HTML formatting as a PROPER one? > > > >> If Windows 8 turns out to be the disaster that the prognosticators > >> appear convinced it will be, a certain percentage of Windows exiles > >> might find their way to Kubuntu. Some of these might also find their way > >> to this email list. They will bring with them habits gained from years > >> of doing things the Windows way. Are these habits in some manner wrong? > >> No, of course not. They're just different. > > > > With you permission, I would strongly disagree with you on this. > > > > Consider a simple example. People used to drive along the left hand road > > side in UK. Some of them comes to another country where cars move along > > right hand road side. Imagine now he/she would attempt to keep his/her > > habits... > > > > Would it be "just different"? Or would it be wrong? > > > > You see, "just different" at times can be just wrong. > > > >> We, then, are faced with a > >> choice: we can either welcome them to the wonderful world that is > >> community-driven free software, or we can drive them away. Let's not > >> drive them away. > > > > Agree with every single word. > > > > But let welcome them by helping to understand how Linux community in > > large lives and why it is for their own benefit to accept and to adapt to > > certain "habits" of this community. > > > > Yes, we can certainly "welcome" them by not letting them know about > > existence of a posting etiquette. But wouldn't it be wrong? Wouldn't it > > mean alienating them instead? > > > > Is it really the best way to welcome newcomers by slowly eroding the > > community etiquette. > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon at radscan.com Thu May 31 04:40:48 2012 From: jon at radscan.com (Jon Trulson) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:40:48 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Update to the Community In-Reply-To: <45F59BF1-4708-4EF1-AF61-7A96F0E20CC2@gmail.com> References: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> <4FC5C5BE.3060602@iinet.net.au> <1956467.eMvRRDkvIA@t520> <45F59BF1-4708-4EF1-AF61-7A96F0E20CC2@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 30 May 2012, Ryan Gauger wrote: > What does all of this have to do with the original email? > Well, it was a discussion of etiquette, which is needed from time-to-time. But you're right. Let's 'stay on target' and keep this list focused on a purely technical basis. Yours in Allah, Peace Be Upon Him. -Jon :) From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu May 31 10:13:44 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 12:13:44 +0200 Subject: KDE updates today Message-ID: <4FC74458.3060301@gmail.com> ON Kubuntu 12.04 with updates ppa enabled. Kubuntu today wants to upgrade over 300 packages and it all seems to KDE... anyone knows if 4.8.4 has been released or what? I am on KDE 4.8.3, in other words. Kindly, Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu May 31 10:25:54 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 12:25:54 +0200 Subject: KDE updates today In-Reply-To: <4FC74458.3060301@gmail.com> References: <4FC74458.3060301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FC74732.3000403@gmail.com> On 31/05/12 12:13, O. Sinclair wrote: > ON Kubuntu 12.04 with updates ppa enabled. Kubuntu today wants to > upgrade over 300 packages and it all seems to KDE... anyone knows if > 4.8.4 has been released or what? > > I am on KDE 4.8.3, in other words. > > Kindly, > Sinclair > To answer my own question: the updates are coming via precise-updates repo and are labelled 4.8.3 so I assume some sort of "now mature to move from kubuntu updates ppa to precise-updates" /Sinclair From rtgkid at gmail.com Thu May 31 13:16:14 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:16:14 -0500 Subject: Update to the Community In-Reply-To: References: <1679029.OkPhZlXy5K@wing> <4FC5C5BE.3060602@iinet.net.au> <1956467.eMvRRDkvIA@t520> <45F59BF1-4708-4EF1-AF61-7A96F0E20CC2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FC76F1E.4030409@gmail.com> On 05/30/2012 11:40 PM, Jon Trulson wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2012, Ryan Gauger wrote: > >> What does all of this have to do with the original email? >> > > Well, it was a discussion of etiquette, which is needed from > time-to-time. But you're right. Let's 'stay on target' and keep this > list focused on a purely technical basis. > > Yours in Allah, Peace Be Upon Him. > -Jon > > :) > > > I do agree that this is needed from time-to-time, but technical issues is what this list is all about. :) In Christ, Ryan From gkourtev at gmail.com Thu May 31 20:41:19 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:41:19 +0300 Subject: KDE updates today In-Reply-To: <4FC74458.3060301@gmail.com> References: <4FC74458.3060301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <74379735.Znnte2Ou6W@gkourtev-laptop> On Thursday 31 May 2012 12:13:44 O. Sinclair wrote: > ON Kubuntu 12.04 with updates ppa enabled. Kubuntu today wants to > upgrade over 300 packages and it all seems to KDE... anyone knows if > 4.8.4 has been released or what? > > I am on KDE 4.8.3, in other words. > > Kindly, > Sinclair Me too, but only 130 packages although I am on 4.8.3 from PPA from quite awhile... Strange for me though. gk From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Thu May 31 21:26:11 2012 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:26:11 +0200 Subject: KDE updates today In-Reply-To: <4FC74458.3060301@gmail.com> References: <4FC74458.3060301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4493974.ZxdGH83nvK@earthworm> On Thursday 31 May 2012 12:13:44 O. Sinclair wrote: > ON Kubuntu 12.04 with updates ppa enabled. Kubuntu today wants to > upgrade over 300 packages and it all seems to KDE... anyone knows if > 4.8.4 has been released or what? > > I am on KDE 4.8.3, in other words. Nothing for me. Odd. I even switched to the main server and checked again. Updatehungrily, Anja