KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least

[Basil Chupin]

On 24/03/12 00:47, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Basil Chupin<blchupin at iinet.net.au>  wrote:

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>> I have been using Thunderbird since it was first known as a component of
>> Netscape. I have never found it to be slow.
>>
>> So I am wondering why you consider it to be "slow" - a term which, as
>> mentioned here, appears to be a relative term :-) . Why do you think that it
>> is slow?
> Sure, I have a mail filter configured, and I get ~500 mails a day and
> that filter have to parse them, while Thunderbird get the mails, apply
> the filter, and move the messages to another folder, it doesn't
> respond..

I am not sure what you are saying here - "it doesn't respond".

I get around 300 e-mail each day and as they are downloaded from my ISP 
the instantly go into the various folders specified by the message 
filter. They don't first go into a holding area from which they are then 
moved by the filter - as they arrive they are immediately sent to the 
appropriate folder.

And the only thing which holds me up sometimes is when someone sends me 
a massive attachment to an e-mail (and I wish that they would stop doing 
this, but friends are friends...... :-) ). Or when my ISP is having a 
hassle and sends me the mail very slowly because of the glitch in 'his' 
sysem.


>   and it can take up to 3 minutes (usually ~1 minute, but can
> be more).... kmail is faster doing this (and doesn't becomes
> unresponsive).

"unresponsive" again. What do you mean by this, please?


>>>   but due that kmail now have
>>> this annoying issue that it just "disconnects" and doesn't get new
>>> emails after a while (after 1~3 hours, unpredictable), and I have to
>>> close it and re-open to get it going again, I guess I have no way out
>>> but to go back to thunderbird (evolution is not in good shape right
>>> now either).
>>>
>>>> "Why keep doing it if it hurts?"
>>> well, thunderbird hurts too, only not on so important areas
>> So it only hurts only on those unimportant points, right? :-) .
>>
>> Again, could you please mention what these points are where TB "hurts".
> Slowness, that's the most important to me...


I think that here I have to ask the question: how fast is your broadband 
connection? and which *version* of Thunderbird are you referring to?

The other question is: are you comparing Thunderbird with your Kmail on 
the SAME computer or is one installed on one machine and the other on 
another, different computer?


> Another is the fact that it does illogical things while dealing with
> attachments, I hasn't really tested this with kmail yet (just forgot
> to do it, but I will), because this problem was reported by a customer
> who have very slow Internet links, and uses Windows, I verified this
> on Linux TB too:
>
> 1. It will either: completely download all attachments, or download no
> attachments at all (no "maximum download" that works, like k9 mail
> (android)).
> 2. If you can make it to *not* download the attachments initially, and
> you open an attachment, it will download the attachment from the imap
> server, but if you want to open the same attachment again later: it
> will download it again!!!! (I don't want to save disk, I want to save
> bandwidth)....no good.

I have to admit that you have me kinda confused right here :-) .

Are we talking here about some Windows rubbish or Thunderbird in Linux? 
Or are you talking here about Thunderbird in both Windows and Linux?

There is a setting in TB which tells the ISP's server to either keep 
everything or delete it when it is downloaded. What is this set to in TB?

Just out of interest, I was on dial-up for many years and it was during 
this time that I started using Thunderbird in its original 'form' called 
Netscape. Never in that time I had hassles with what you are describing. 
I suspect that your friend has some problems with the system 
installation and/or the ISP. (Just as an aside, I was with one "big 
player" of an ISP here in Australia and I had nothing but *trouble* with 
connections/disconnections - and this was on broadband! So I changed 
ISPs and now am enjoying myself (and have been for 4 years).



>>> .... at
>>> least it will get new emails.
>> Well, it seems to me a very good reason then to use it, right? :-D
> Right, that's why I'm going back to it for now.

That's the spirit! :-) . Never give up :-) .

BC

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