kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 87, Issue 14

Katelyn womanthinker at gmail.com
Wed Apr 11 21:54:37 UTC 2012


I love the name Kubuntu. Please don't change it.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:00 AM, <kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com>wrote:

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>   1. Re: Kubuntu future and the name itself (Anj Tuesday)
>   2. Re: Kubuntu future and the name itself (Dale Trombley)
>   3. Re: Kubuntu future and the name itself (Nils Kassube)
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> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:00:50 +0200
> From: Anj Tuesday <anj.tuesday at gmx.net>
> To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Kubuntu future and the name itself
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> Am Mittwoch, 11. April 2012, 07:53:51 schrieb Steve Cookson:
> > > But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it was
> > > actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers for the
> > > KDE side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease of life like
> > > Calligra has. Suggestions welcome :)"
> >
> > I took a strategic decision that W2k would be my last Windows distro, in
> > fact I upgraded to XP.
> >
> > And then I took on a new project and had to choose a system, I chose
> Kubuntu
> > for two reasons:
> >
> > - It had a more modern-looking desktop
> > - It met my technical requirements better than the other distros.
> >
> > I quite liked that it was part of the "Ubuntu" co-brand.  Think Georgio
> > Armani, Armani Jeans, Armani Exchange. It gave Kubuntu a larger
> foot-print
> > because of the other members of the family.  For that reason I feel the
> > Kubuntu punches above its weight.
> >
> > Had I understood about the connection with Debian at the time, this would
> > have given me the same feeling, but this is not intuitive from the name.
> >
> > Maybe it could have been "Debuntuk", to connect to Debian, Ubuntu and
> KDE in
> > one word.
> >
> > But it's all a bit clunky.  What we in the Linux community don't have it
> the
> > 'Windows' cover name to give every distro the associated values of the
> > family.
> >
> > Maybe it needs a 'nix in the name.
> >
> > Debuntuknix anyone?
> >
> > Have a good day.
> >
> > Steve
>
> K-Tux would be a little gangster, yes? :)
> ~Anja
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> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:16:00 -0400
> From: Dale Trombley <buzzmandt at gmail.com>
> To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Kubuntu future and the name itself
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> I think if it were a brand new project it should have a new name. But the
> way I understand it it is still ubuntu+kde.  Joke name or not Kubuntu is
> now an established name in the *nix community.  My vote would be stick with
> the name everyone knows.
> On Apr 11, 2012 6:19 AM, "O. Sinclair" <o.sinclair at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On 11/04/12 12:04, Nils Kassube wrote:
> >
> >> O. Sinclair wrote:
> >>
> >>> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and
> >>> has a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in
> >>> themselves mean anything.
> >>>
> >>
> >>  From<http://en.wikipedia.org/**wiki/Kubuntu#Name<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#Name>
> >>> >:
> >>>
> >>
> >> | "Kubuntu" means "towards humanity" in Bemba, and is derived from
> >> | ubuntu ("humanity").
> >>
> >>  Well you certainly got me on that one.. but let me quote Jonathan from
> > his blog that got me started on this:
> >
> > "We must remain part of Ubuntu, they are a great community for distros
> and
> > we couldn't survive without them. Kubuntu is often incorrectly called a
> > "derivative" of Ubuntu but we are part of the Ubuntu family and we are
> one
> > of their flavours which is just where we should be.
> >
> > New markets? Kubuntu Active is taking shape. I'd love to have TV friendly
> > media centre support too for example.
> >
> > But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it was
> > actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers for the
> KDE
> > side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease of life like
> > Calligra has. Suggestions welcome :)"
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:17:39 +0200
> From: Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net>
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> O. Sinclair wrote:
> > On 11/04/12 12:04, Nils Kassube wrote:
> > > O. Sinclair wrote:
> > >> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language
> > >> and has a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not
> > >> in themselves mean anything.
> > >>
> > >>From<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#Name>:
> > > | "Kubuntu" means "towards humanity" in Bemba, and is derived from
> > > | ubuntu ("humanity").
> >
> > Well you certainly got me on that one.. but let me quote Jonathan
> > from his blog that got me started on this:
> >
> > "We must remain part of Ubuntu, they are a great community for
> > distros and we couldn't survive without them. Kubuntu is often
> > incorrectly called a "derivative" of Ubuntu but we are part of the
> > Ubuntu family and we are one of their flavours which is just where
> > we should be.
> >
> > New markets? Kubuntu Active is taking shape. I'd love to have TV
> > friendly media centre support too for example.
> >
> > But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it
> > was actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers
> > for the KDE side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease
> > of life like Calligra has. Suggestions welcome :)"
>
> I'm not so sure if the name is a problem. I think it is more a question
> of marketing. To paraphrase my first boss (actually he was qouting
> someone else): "You may want to give away a lump of gold but you will
> only find a taker if you advertise." Take Firefox as an example. They
> got their share of the browser market by an advert campaign and not
> because of a great name. Or take MS Word as a second example. It is a
> common name for a mediocre product but MS dominates the market due to
> agressive marketing.
>
>
> Nils
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