About had it

Mark Greenwood fatgerman at gmail.com
Sun Nov 27 02:04:40 UTC 2011

I think it's yet another case of new stuff being released well before it's ready for use. But then this is how Linux works - we're not only the users, we're the beta testers too. If you need a system that's stable and reliable, wait for a new release and then install the *previous* release with all its updates - that way you get something that has been tested and fixed. Or just use Debian stable. It does mean you don't get all the 'cutting edge' features - but those are the ones that usually cause all the trouble.

Amongst my peers we have a saying that the phrase 'cutting edge' or 'latest release' is just marketing-speak for 'it isn't finished and it doesn't work' :)


On 27 Nov 2011, at 00:29, Basil Chupin wrote:

> On 27/11/11 03:36, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>> For the last several years, I've been running  XFCE as a lightweight desktop
>> because I didn't want to go through all of the glitz and development pains of
>> KDE 4.xx
>> Then came 11.10   and kmail2.
>> I bit the bullet and switched (with great effort) to kmail2 and started to
>> live with KDE.
>> Although kmail2 has been a great disaster, and I see more and more use of
>> AKONADI (which I think sucks),  I don't see much hope for kubuntu, as least as
>> far as I am concerned.
>> As an example, I have a "lab-rat" machine here that I use to test out new
>> releases.   I recently noticed that I have been missing emails that I know
>> came into my email server and then got lost.  I tracked it down to my lab-rat
>> sucking up emails from time to time.  But how can that be???   kmail2 wasn't
>> running on the lab-rat so how can it be doing anything with emails?
>> Well, NOW akonadi does email fetching, even without kmail running.  And this
>> machine that was just sitting there was sucking up emails from time to time.
>> I think KDE is heading down a rat-hole...   and I may well head back to XFCE
>> and use T-bird or find someother email program.  Kmail doesn't work well
>> anymore and doesn't work with address books or recent addresses anymore.
>> (yes, I know this can probably be fixed by fussing with 'akonadi'  but I look
>> at akonadi as being a big black pile of poop and the more it gets involved
>> with EVERYTHING KDE  I think the worse things are going to get.
>> It's a sad day in *ubunto town.
> Hi Bruce,
> Kmail has some bad problems and even those who are 'developing' it say so and suggest that one uses, temporarily or otherwise, say, Thunderbird.
> There is nothing wrong with KDE (I am using KDE 4.7.3) - it's fine, but I don't use kmail (I use TB) and don't use Akonadi's features.
> BC
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