About had it

Basil Chupin blchupin at iinet.net.au
Sun Nov 27 00:29:27 UTC 2011

On 27/11/11 03:36, Bruce Marshall wrote:
> For the last several years, I've been running  XFCE as a lightweight desktop
> because I didn't want to go through all of the glitz and development pains of
> KDE 4.xx
> Then came 11.10   and kmail2.
> I bit the bullet and switched (with great effort) to kmail2 and started to
> live with KDE.
> Although kmail2 has been a great disaster, and I see more and more use of
> AKONADI (which I think sucks),  I don't see much hope for kubuntu, as least as
> far as I am concerned.
> As an example, I have a "lab-rat" machine here that I use to test out new
> releases.   I recently noticed that I have been missing emails that I know
> came into my email server and then got lost.  I tracked it down to my lab-rat
> sucking up emails from time to time.  But how can that be???   kmail2 wasn't
> running on the lab-rat so how can it be doing anything with emails?
> Well, NOW akonadi does email fetching, even without kmail running.  And this
> machine that was just sitting there was sucking up emails from time to time.
> I think KDE is heading down a rat-hole...   and I may well head back to XFCE
> and use T-bird or find someother email program.  Kmail doesn't work well
> anymore and doesn't work with address books or recent addresses anymore.
> (yes, I know this can probably be fixed by fussing with 'akonadi'  but I look
> at akonadi as being a big black pile of poop and the more it gets involved
> with EVERYTHING KDE  I think the worse things are going to get.
> It's a sad day in *ubunto town.

Hi Bruce,

Kmail has some bad problems and even those who are 'developing' it say 
so and suggest that one uses, temporarily or otherwise, say, Thunderbird.

There is nothing wrong with KDE (I am using KDE 4.7.3) - it's fine, but 
I don't use kmail (I use TB) and don't use Akonadi's features.


Diapers and politicians should be changed often; both for the same reason.

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