From bhaskarsharma.n at gmail.com Wed Sep 1 01:18:07 2010 From: bhaskarsharma.n at gmail.com (BHASKAR SHARMA.N) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 06:48:07 +0530 Subject: Ndiswrapper Freezes and Makes Other Things Freeze In-Reply-To: <537931059.85747.1283296675696.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw09.schlund.de> References: <201008292228.57548.fluca1978@infinito.it> <201008302306.58321.valtermura@gmail.com> <201008311555.00492.fluca1978@infinito.it> <201008311640.16614.fluca1978@infinito.it> <537931059.85747.1283296675696.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw09.schlund.de> Message-ID: Better you install the driver from kpackagekit..or have you ever tried program 'software centre'? It's gnome based..you'll get exact program to configure the wireless driver from there.. On 9/1/10, dave at thedavefactor.com wrote: > Hi, everyone. > > I like to read random stuff on this list, but I hardly ever post. > > Now, I have a problem. > > When I try to install a wireless network driver, the system freezes. > > When I open a Konsole window and type "ndiswrapper -l", the Konsole freezes > like > the command is doing something, but hours pass and nothing happens.  The > same > goes for "lsusb" and "modprobe -r ndiswrapper".  I installed a thing called > ndisgtk, and it freezes as soon as I start it up. > > I have a dual-boot system, with 64-bit Windows 7 and 64-bit Kubuntu 10.04, > and > everything was fine when I had a wired Internet connection, but now I'm > using a > wireless connection that's in another room.  I bought a D-Link DWA 130 for > that > purpose, because I remembered somewhere that D-Link adapters play well with > Linux. > > In Windows, it works fine.  In Kubuntu, my system doesn't seem to even > recognize > what a wireless network is. > > I followed some instructions and installed everything related to wireless > networking and I copied over some files and installed one with Ndiswrapper. >  Not > only did it not help, but I think I'm actually worse off than when I > started. > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > Thank you. > > > ~~ Dave V. ~~ -- -BHASKAR SHARMA.N From dave at thedavefactor.com Wed Sep 1 01:56:48 2010 From: dave at thedavefactor.com (dave at thedavefactor.com) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Ndiswrapper Freezes and Makes Other Things Freeze In-Reply-To: References: <201008292228.57548.fluca1978@infinito.it> <201008302306.58321.valtermura@gmail.com> <201008311555.00492.fluca1978@infinito.it> <201008311640.16614.fluca1978@infinito.it> <537931059.85747.1283296675696.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw09.schlund.de> Message-ID: <133825587.88207.1283306209013.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw09.schlund.de> Hi.   Thanks for your reply.   On September 1, 2010 at 1:18 AM "BHASKAR SHARMA.N" wrote: > Better you install the driver from kpackagekit..or have you ever tried > program 'software centre'? It's gnome based..you'll get exact program > to configure the wireless driver from there.  I can't connect to the Internet at all on Kubuntu at the moment.  Even if I pull some plugs and move the modem over hear near my computer again, I don't know what that would accomplish.  I don't even know what to install.  It doesn't look like there are any native Linux drivers for a D-Link DWA-130 ... or any wireless networking adapter that I've ever heard of.  (What's the deal with that, anyway?  Are Linux and wi-fi so incompatible?  Did Microsoft and Apple bribe every hardware manufacturer?  Are the wi-fi people and the Linux people bitter enemies, and no one involved with creating or supporting one thing wants to ever touch the other?  I don't understand this.)   Anyway, my most immediate problem is that I've already installed a Windows driver, using ndiswrapper.  Now, ndiswrapper hates me for it and refuses to let any program that touches it do anything I say.   Once I fix that, then I can figure out how to connect for real.   Thanks again.     ~~ Dave V. ~~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I did this nvidea upgrade to fix speed problems on 'google >> > earth' and seems to >> > have improved this tailing/shadowing problem as well, so maybe you were >> > right about >> > the graphics driver Clay >> > I don't know about setting up a link, but I can send a screen snapshot >> > to your personal >> > email address if it would help, the effect is still there but very much >> > reduced. >> > ATB >> > brian >> > >> > http://imageshack.us/ > is a free no-registration-required image site just for this purpose, you > upload a pic there and paste the link here. > > Clay > Thanks, that looks like a useful site, try this one for large files, videos, etc. The link to my shadow tailing is here , snapshot1 I think, the effect is not nearly so bad now, but you can still see it, and I'd love to get shot of it altogether brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helder.earth at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 00:29:34 2010 From: helder.earth at gmail.com (Helder Terra) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:29:34 -0300 Subject: KDEuBlog Message-ID: <4C7EEFEE.4090402@gmail.com> Hi everyone, Idon't know if anyone here has the same problem, but I'm running Kubuntu Lucid (both me and my wife, at home) and the plasma KDEuBlog widget (I guess it was the former KDE Twitter) just doesn't recognizes my login anymore. It keeps asking me for authentication, and doesn't show anything at the timeline window. This problem is happening to me and my wife's login, in both computers. But the strange thing is, altough I can't read my contacts's tweets and keep getting a message saying that "API application" doesn't reccognizes my login, I can still tweet through it normally (it never shows at the widget, but I can see it was sent by login in Twitter at Konqueror). It's happening for three days now, and I can't seem to find a solution anywhere. So, if someone here has solved it, I'm asking for help. Thanks Helder From paul at lemmons.name Thu Sep 2 01:01:24 2010 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:01:24 -0700 Subject: KDEuBlog In-Reply-To: <4C7EEFEE.4090402@gmail.com> References: <4C7EEFEE.4090402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C7EF764.8070106@lemmons.name> On 09/01/2010 05:29 PM, Helder Terra wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Idon't know if anyone here has the same problem, but I'm running Kubuntu > Lucid (both me and my wife, at home) and the plasma KDEuBlog widget (I > guess it was the former KDE Twitter) just doesn't recognizes my login > anymore. It keeps asking me for authentication, and doesn't show > anything at the timeline window. This problem is happening to me and my > wife's login, in both computers. But the strange thing is, altough I > can't read my contacts's tweets and keep getting a message saying that > "API application" doesn't reccognizes my login, I can still tweet > through it normally (it never shows at the widget, but I can see it was > sent by login in Twitter at Konqueror). > > It's happening for three days now, and I can't seem to find a solution > anywhere. So, if someone here has solved it, I'm asking for help. > > Thanks > > Helder > > Dump uBlog. I too tried to make it work and when they got one thing fixed another thing broke. It was never stable for me. I fixed my problem by installing: Choqok. 100% stable and is not a plasma widget. It hides in the system tray until there is some reason to make itself known. Until then no clutter on the desktop. -- In a world without walls and fences we don't need Windows or Gates -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But the strange thing is, altough I > can't read my contacts's tweets and keep getting a message saying that > "API application" doesn't reccognizes my login, I can still tweet > through it normally (it never shows at the widget, but I can see it was > sent by login in Twitter at Konqueror). > > It's happening for three days now, and I can't seem to find a solution > anywhere. So, if someone here has solved it, I'm asking for help. > > Thanks > > Helder twitter have changed their login authorization, and many clients have not caught up yet. It has been called somewhere the "OAuth Apocalypse" :) you will need to find a client that has been updated to use the OAuth system twitter is now using, such as the latest Choqok version. I don't see the latest official release in a ppa yet, but I have been using this one which has been working fine https://edge.launchpad.net/~nuovodna/+archive/nuovodna-stuff this repo requires you have KDE 4.5 installed, though. https://edge.launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/testing others have been using the above repo as well, not sure i it needs a specific KDE version or not clay From theunknownandrew at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 05:30:02 2010 From: theunknownandrew at gmail.com (I am me) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:00:02 +0530 Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: firefox 3.6.6 in Kubuntu 8.04 In-Reply-To: References: <201008131710.42073.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <201008131722.10275.gene.heskett@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 1 September 2010 02:25, ray burke wrote: > I adept-manager firefox 3.6.8 updated, but still only able to click 4 > addresses in address bar, > > So Within the firefox about config window- > > under " extensions.smarterwiki.num_urlbar_from_history;4" tag it > showed only 4 which when firefox 3.6.8 started > it only showed 4 addresses in the address bar! > so I modify it to read > "extensions.smarterwiki.num_urlbar_from_history;20" and now shows 20 > addresses in the address bar, > so I believe that I have found the correct tag to fix the problem? > > ray > Hey Ray, Good to know that your issue is now solved. However I noticed that I don't have that Key in my config, Also seems that the key is an extension / add-on to firefox Anyways all is well that ends well, Have a good day now, Cheers -- & RU d*_*b From mdhirsch at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 16:44:17 2010 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 10:44:17 -0600 Subject: Disappearing desktop icons on KDE4.5 Message-ID: I upgraded my wife to 10.04 with KDE 4.5. Going with 4.5 was probably a mistake as there have just been a world of troubles. Some of which I've fixed, some she can live with, and this one. Whenever she logs in (it's set to auto-login her account) her desktop is empty. The background is correct, but there are no icons on it. If I open up the "Folder View Settings" I can see that she is set to "Folder View" displaying her Desktop folder, just the way she wants it. But no images of her desktop entries is on the desktop. I switch from "Folder View" to "Desktop" (which doesn't show the desktop anymore--does anyone use that?) and apply, then switch back to "Folder View" and apply. Suddenly all the icons representing items in her Desktop folder appear. This happens every time she logs in. Anyone know why? Or how to fix it? Thanks, Michael From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Thu Sep 2 18:58:55 2010 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:58:55 +0100 Subject: Ndiswrapper Freezes and Makes Other Things Freeze In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C7FF3EF.8060608@btinternet.com> On 02/09/10 02:01, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Hi, everyone. > ? > I like to read random stuff on this list, but I hardly ever post. > ? > Now, I have a problem. > ? > When I try to install a wireless network driver, the system freezes. > ? > When I open a Konsole window and type "ndiswrapper -l", the Konsole freezes like > the command is doing something, but hours pass and nothing happens. ?The same > goes for "lsusb" and "modprobe -r ndiswrapper". ?I installed a thing called > ndisgtk, and it freezes as soon as I start it up. > ? > I have a dual-boot system, with 64-bit Windows 7 and 64-bit Kubuntu 10.04, and > everything was fine when I had a wired Internet connection, but now I'm using a > wireless connection that's in another room. ?I bought a D-Link DWA 130 for that > purpose, because I remembered somewhere that D-Link adapters play well with > Linux. > ? > In Windows, it works fine. ?In Kubuntu, my system doesn't seem to even recognize > what a wireless network is. > ? > I followed some instructions and installed everything related to wireless > networking and I copied over some files and installed one with Ndiswrapper. ?Not > only did it not help, but I think I'm actually worse off than when I started. > ? > Any advice would be appreciated. > ? > Thank you. > ? > ? > ~~ Hmm, I think you're attempting to crack a walnut with a sledge hammer. I am running Lucid on a 64amd, using a 'D-link airplus D DWL-G122 wireless USB'. All I did was check on D-link's site for a linux compatible jobbie and bought it, ran KNetworkManager, answered its questions re network name, ip, security, etc and away it went. If I wrer in your shoes I would ditch all your self-installed ndiswrapper and any other stuff you have installed. And then: 1. check that your wi-fi hardware is linux compatible on the D-Link site, it should be, but get one that is if it's not. 2. run KNetworkManager, it's pretty straight-forward - ho ho. And if this didn't work I would back up my home directory and re-install the system! KNetworkManager will already be installed and the 1st boot will install the wi-fi driver when your wi-fi hardware is detected. This computer I'm emailing you on has never had an ethernet cable plugged into it, only ever had wireless internet which worked 1st time. BOL brian From claydoh at claydoh.com Thu Sep 2 20:55:23 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh at claydoh.com) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:55:23 -0400 Subject: Ndiswrapper Freezes and Makes Other Things Freeze In-Reply-To: <4C7FF3EF.8060608@btinternet.com> References: <4C7FF3EF.8060608@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <36216c94f614f0bed565ba7606ce459e.squirrel@claydoh.com> > On 02/09/10 02:01, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: >> Hi, everyone. >> ? >> I like to read random stuff on this list, but I hardly ever post. >> ? >> Now, I have a problem. >> ? >> When I try to install a wireless network driver, the system freezes. >> ? >> When I open a Konsole window and type "ndiswrapper -l", the Konsole >> freezes like >> the command is doing something, but hours pass and nothing happens. ?The >> same >> goes for "lsusb" and "modprobe -r ndiswrapper". ?I installed a thing >> called >> ndisgtk, and it freezes as soon as I start it up. >> ? >> I have a dual-boot system, with 64-bit Windows 7 and 64-bit Kubuntu >> 10.04, and >> everything was fine when I had a wired Internet connection, but now I'm >> using a >> wireless connection that's in another room. ?I bought a D-Link DWA 130 >> for that >> purpose, because I remembered somewhere that D-Link adapters play well >> with >> Linux. >> ? >> In Windows, it works fine. ?In Kubuntu, my system doesn't seem to even >> recognize >> what a wireless network is. >> ? >> I followed some instructions and installed everything related to >> wireless >> networking and I copied over some files and installed one with >> Ndiswrapper. ?Not >> only did it not help, but I think I'm actually worse off than when I >> started. >> ? >> Any advice would be appreciated. >> ? >> Thank you. >> ? >> ? >> ~~ > Hmm, I think you're attempting to crack a walnut with a sledge hammer. > I am running Lucid on a 64amd, using a 'D-link airplus D DWL-G122 > wireless USB'. > All I did was check on D-link's site for a linux compatible jobbie and > bought it, > ran KNetworkManager, answered its questions re network name, ip, > security, etc > and away it went. > If I wrer in your shoes I would ditch all your self-installed > ndiswrapper > and any other stuff you have installed. And then: > > 1. check that your wi-fi hardware is linux compatible on the D-Link > site, it should > be, but get one that is if it's not. > 2. run KNetworkManager, it's pretty straight-forward - ho ho. > > And if this didn't work I would back up my home directory and re-install > the system! Please don't do this, it may not be necessary (and is using that proverbial sledgehammer) > KNetworkManager will already be installed and the 1st boot will > install the wi-fi > driver when your wi-fi hardware is detected. > This computer I'm emailing you on has never had an ethernet cable > plugged into it, > only ever had wireless internet which worked 1st time. > BOL > brian > > >From a couple of forum threads: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1354191 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1456764 the freezing could be due to bad windows drivers or using a 32bit driver file in 64 bit. It also seems that not all D-Link DWA 130 devices have the same exact chips in them. We should probably first try from the beginning and see exactly what device ID your adapter has by running the command: lsusb and take it from there. Clay From paulatgm at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 21:57:16 2010 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:57:16 -0400 Subject: howto get kubuntu-netbook back Message-ID: <4C801DBC.9020302@gmail.com> I decided I want to try netbook again, so reinstalled it. But now it never shows up as a selection in login screen. How do I fix it? Using lucid with updates from ppa to latest version. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Sep 2 22:25:20 2010 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 18:25:20 -0400 Subject: howto get kubuntu-netbook back In-Reply-To: <4C801DBC.9020302@gmail.com> References: <4C801DBC.9020302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201009021825.20837.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Thursday, September 02, 2010, Paul S wrote: > I decided I want to try netbook again, so reinstalled it. But now it > never shows up as a selection in login screen. How do I fix it? > > Using lucid with updates from ppa to latest version. You probably told the install to put the grub on the partition that holds the netbook install.... Thus, the MBR never sees the addition. If you boot the system again and pick whatever version you can boot with, and then run 'update-grub' it should see the addition and add it into the grub list. From john_re at fastmail.us Thu Sep 2 22:49:09 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:49:09 -0700 Subject: KOrganizer calendar flickering overlapping events. KOrganizer 4.4.2 in KUbuntu 10.04; jor Message-ID: <1283467749.14507.1393101549@webmail.messagingengine.com> It seems that the event layout system is not properly aligning the events. Some events are aligned on a 1/4 width spacing, & some are on a 1/3 spacing. Two of the middle 1/3 events are overlapping one of the 3/4 laidout events. These events flicker back & forth in the display, about 5 times per second. I have this occuring on my calendar for today, & I've seen this occur some months ago, also. = Could some developer try to add multiple events on a day, & see if they get this overlapping layout, resulting in flicker? Some of my events where the flicker occurs were added as: 1) repeating event, & 2) one time, non repeating. = This continues occuring even if: 1) I change my display from "week" (7 days showing) to only 1 "day". - Point: it is not due to limited screen area: in the "day" display, the calendar items are several hundred pixels wide. 2) I exit & restart the program. = While the window is "not minimized", ie either on screen, or even totally covered by another window, korganizer uses about 25% of one core of a 4 core system, shown by "top". = I'm sending this email to two lists: KUbuntu users, & KDE general. If there is a more appropriate list, where the korganizer developers might see this, please let me know. = I doubt I can afford time to file a bug on this, since I'm too busy. I could maybe provide some more specifics in regard to specific email questions. Please file a bug if this hasn't been fixed (on both KUbuntu & KDE bug trackers?), & you can file the bug. Thanks. I'm hoping this note to the KDE & KUbuntu communities might alert a capable developer who could move this bug some steps toward progress fix completion. Thanks. :) == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From rayburke30 at gmail.com Fri Sep 3 05:36:11 2010 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 15:36:11 +1000 Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: firefox 3.6.6 in Kubuntu 8.04 In-Reply-To: References: <201008131710.42073.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <201008131722.10275.gene.heskett@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:30 PM, I am me wrote: > On 1 September 2010 02:25, ray burke wrote: >> I adept-manager firefox 3.6.8 updated, but still only able to click 4 >> addresses in address bar, >> >> So Within the firefox about config window- >> >> under " extensions.smarterwiki.num_urlbar_from_history;4" tag it >> showed only 4 which when firefox 3.6.8 started >> it only showed 4 addresses in the address bar! >> so I modify it to read >> "extensions.smarterwiki.num_urlbar_from_history;20" and now shows 20 >> addresses in the address bar, >> so I believe that I have found the correct tag to fix the problem? >> >> ray >> > > Hey Ray, > > Good to know that your issue is now solved. > However I noticed that I don't have that Key in my config, > Also seems that the key is an extension / add-on to firefox > > Anyways all is well that ends well, > Have a good day now, Cheers > -- >  & RU  d*_*b > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > I am not surte about the key, but I think that you should be able to create your own? ray From theunknownandrew at gmail.com Fri Sep 3 06:52:59 2010 From: theunknownandrew at gmail.com (I am me) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 12:22:59 +0530 Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: firefox 3.6.6 in Kubuntu 8.04 In-Reply-To: References: <201008131710.42073.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <201008131722.10275.gene.heskett@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3 September 2010 11:06, ray burke wrote: > I am not surte about the key, but I think that you should be able to > create your own? Yes you can, context click on any Key in about:config > New > ... -- & RU d*_*b From paulatgm at gmail.com Fri Sep 3 12:48:41 2010 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 08:48:41 -0400 Subject: howto get kubuntu-netbook back In-Reply-To: <201009021825.20837.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <4C801DBC.9020302@gmail.com> <201009021825.20837.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <4C80EEA9.9030806@gmail.com> Bruce Marshall said the following on 09/02/2010 06:25 PM: > On Thursday, September 02, 2010, Paul S wrote: >> I decided I want to try netbook again, so reinstalled it. But now it >> never shows up as a selection in login screen. How do I fix it? >> >> Using lucid with updates from ppa to latest version. > > You probably told the install to put the grub on the partition that holds the > netbook install.... Thus, the MBR never sees the addition. > > If you boot the system again and pick whatever version you can boot with, and > then run 'update-grub' it should see the addition and add it into the grub > list. Actually, I'm talking about the kdm login screen. Grub only has to do with selecting the operating system. I'm talking about the kubuntu-netbook, which should show up on the login. But, thanks anyway. From apachelogger at ubuntu.com Fri Sep 3 15:30:22 2010 From: apachelogger at ubuntu.com (Harald Sitter) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:30:22 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Team August Report Message-ID: <4c811491.42ecd80a.07ee.56e6@mx.google.com> Good morning everyone! I am more than glad to present you the Kubuntu team's report on the brilliant things we did in the past month. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReports/10/August (Thanks to Kiszel Kristóf https://edge.launchpad.net/~ulysses for writing) -- Harald Sitter Kubuntu Core Developer http://www.kubuntu.org From dave at thedavefactor.com Sat Sep 4 12:37:23 2010 From: dave at thedavefactor.com (dave at thedavefactor.com) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 08:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Ndiswrapper Freezes and Makes Other Things Freeze In-Reply-To: <36216c94f614f0bed565ba7606ce459e.squirrel@claydoh.com> References: <4C7FF3EF.8060608@btinternet.com> <36216c94f614f0bed565ba7606ce459e.squirrel@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <1436577959.188007.1283603843296.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxusltgw00.schlund.de> Hello again.   Thanks for your replies!  I'm sorry for how long it took me to respond.   [From Brian Wootton] >> ~~ > If I wrer in your shoes I  would  ditch all your self-installed > ndiswrapper > and any other stuff you have installed. And then: > > 1. check that your wi-fi hardware is linux compatible on the D-Link > site, it should > be, but get one that is if it's not. > 2. run KNetworkManager,  it's pretty straight-forward - ho ho.  It looks like wireless adapters with native Linux drivers exist, but they're relatively expensive and have to be ordered online apparently, because I've never seen one in a store.  Unfortunately, I don't have the money to be buying new hardware just yet.   [From claydoh at claydoh.com] > the freezing could be due to bad windows drivers or using a 32bit driver > file in 64 bit. It also seems that not all D-Link DWA 130 devices have the > same exact chips in them. > > We should probably first try from the beginning and see exactly what > device ID your adapter has by running the command: > > lsusb My DWA-130 is revision E, from what I can tell.  I used what I thought were the 64-bit XP drivers from the CD that came with the wireless device. Unfortunately, lsusb hangs when I try to run it.  I ran it before I tried to install the drivers and it worked fine. Ugh.  I'm starting to hate wi-fi. ~~~ Dave V. ~~~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From errol at tzora.co.il Sat Sep 4 17:18:13 2010 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 20:18:13 +0300 Subject: universal home partition?? Message-ID: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> I have a separate partition for /home. I only use a KDE desktop, and have exclusively used Kubuntu. After installing 10.04 I had several problems with Kubuntu as spoken about in the "impressions of Lucid" thread. I now want to try other distros that use KDE. Is there a way of keeping my same home partition for other distros? I'm not worried about the layout of my home partition but wouldn't want to loose my documents, e-mail etc. I thought of maybe even having the other distro as a dual (triple) boot. I was thinking about trying Fedora or PClinuxos. Errol From bhaskarsharma.n at gmail.com Sun Sep 5 03:40:31 2010 From: bhaskarsharma.n at gmail.com (BHASKAR SHARMA.N) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 09:10:31 +0530 Subject: universal home partition?? In-Reply-To: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> References: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: I think now a linux reinstallation don't format entire partitions..simply similar files/folders will get replaced..why sticking with kde? That's not much stable as gnome.. On 9/4/10, Errol Sapir wrote: > I have a separate partition for /home. I only use a KDE desktop, and > have exclusively used Kubuntu. After installing 10.04 I had several > problems with Kubuntu as spoken about in the "impressions of Lucid" > thread. I now want to try other distros that use KDE. Is there a way of > keeping my same home partition for other distros? I'm not worried about > the layout of my home partition but wouldn't want to loose my documents, > e-mail etc. I thought of maybe even having the other distro as a dual > (triple) boot. I was thinking about trying Fedora or PClinuxos. > Errol > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- -BHASKAR SHARMA.N From bhaskarsharma.n at gmail.com Sun Sep 5 03:47:24 2010 From: bhaskarsharma.n at gmail.com (BHASKAR SHARMA.N) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 09:17:24 +0530 Subject: firefox 3.6.6 in Kubuntu 8.04 In-Reply-To: References: <201008131710.42073.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <201008131722.10275.gene.heskett@gmail.com> Message-ID: Go to google.com/chrome..:) get the .deb pack install it as default.. You'll get the fastest browser and relief from all problems :) On 9/3/10, I am me wrote: > On 3 September 2010 11:06, ray burke wrote: >> I am not surte about the key, but I think that you should be able to >> create your own? > > Yes you can, context click on any Key in about:config > New > ... > > -- > > & RU d*_*b > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- -BHASKAR SHARMA.N From john_re at fastmail.us Sun Sep 5 03:53:23 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 20:53:23 -0700 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 Message-ID: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> KUbuntu 10.04 64 bit, on a desktop box. AMD PhenomII 4 core 64 bit processor. Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it cause it is broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04 Using a regular microphone & speakers. With audacity recording & playback program, my box records & plays back fine. Skype test call: lady's voice sounds fine, but my voice comming back has a very low pitch. The timing rate of my voice is played back is correct. So, the problem is not that my voice is played back both - slower & lower pitch. It is played back: - at the normal rate, but with very low pitch. Any suggestions to fix this? == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From john_re at fastmail.us Sun Sep 5 05:20:14 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:20:14 -0700 Subject: GUI VPN setup, config & manage tools? Anything working in KUbuntu 10.04? ; jor Message-ID: <1283664014.21034.1393406557@webmail.messagingengine.com> What are any (good) GUI VPN tools to setup, configure, & manage in KU 10.04? apt-cache search vpn | sort shows these, among others: gadmin-openvpn-client - GTK+ configuration tool for openvpn (client) ike-qtgui - Shrew Soft VPN client - Connection manager kvpnc - vpn clients frontend for KDE4 network-manager-openvpn-kde - KDE NetworkManagement infrastructure (OpenVPN plugin) network-manager-openvpn - network management framework (OpenVPN plugin) tunneldigger - Configures OpenVPN tunnel networks Thanks. == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From rayburke30 at gmail.com Sun Sep 5 05:25:49 2010 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 15:25:49 +1000 Subject: firefox 3.6.6 in Kubuntu 8.04 In-Reply-To: References: <201008131710.42073.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <201008131722.10275.gene.heskett@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:47 PM, BHASKAR SHARMA.N wrote: > Go to google.com/chrome..:) get the .deb pack install it as default.. > You'll get the fastest browser and relief from all problems :) > > On 9/3/10, I am me wrote: >> On 3 September 2010 11:06, ray burke wrote: >>> I am not surte about the key, but I think that you should be able to >>> create your own? >> >> Yes you can, context click on any Key in about:config > New > ... >> >> -- >> >>   & RU  d*_*b >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > > -- > > > > -BHASKAR SHARMA.N > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > BHASKAR SHARMA.N , thanks will download and install on Kubuntu and see whats its like? ray From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sun Sep 5 05:57:30 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:57:30 +1000 Subject: universal home partition?? In-Reply-To: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> References: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4C83314A.3000907@iinet.net.au> On 05/09/2010 03:18, Errol Sapir wrote: > I have a separate partition for /home. I only use a KDE desktop, and > have exclusively used Kubuntu. After installing 10.04 I had several > problems with Kubuntu as spoken about in the "impressions of Lucid" > thread. I now want to try other distros that use KDE. Is there a way of > keeping my same home partition for other distros? I'm not worried about > the layout of my home partition but wouldn't want to loose my documents, > e-mail etc. I thought of maybe even having the other distro as a dual > (triple) boot. I was thinking about trying Fedora or PClinuxos. > Errol > As far as I am concerned, theoretically there should not be a problem. When installing another Linux OS, when you get to the partition manager show "/home" as a mountable, but do not format, partition. However, you should also be aware that the new OS will create its own control files inside your home directory and will, quite possibly, overwrite some existing files. So, backup whatever you consider important. Also, there is anecdotal evidence to show that even when upgrading within the *same* distro and leaving "/home" from the earlier version can cause hassles which is why people backup their "valuable data" - like e-mails, Documents, etc (which you should do anyway at least once a week or more often) and install "clean". However, there are also people who have claimed that they have never struck problems when using their "/home" as a static entity. But your mileage may vary, of course. Backup your valuable data and then install the new OS, with the present "/home" included in the installation (but not formatted of course). Suck it and see :-) - you have the data backed-up, right? BC -- ...more people are driven insane through religious hysteria than by drinking alcohol. W C Fields From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Sun Sep 5 06:56:56 2010 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 02:56:56 -0400 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4C833F38.1070008@optonline.net> On 9/4/2010 11:53 PM, giovanni_re wrote: > KUbuntu 10.04 64 bit, on a desktop box. AMD PhenomII 4 core 64 bit > processor. > > Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it cause it > is broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04 > > Using a regular microphone& speakers. > With audacity recording& playback program, > my box records& plays back fine. > > Skype test call: > lady's voice sounds fine, > but my voice comming back has a very low pitch. > The timing rate of my voice is played back is correct. > > So, the problem is not that my voice is played back both > - slower& lower pitch. > It is played back: > - at the normal rate, but with very low pitch. > > > Any suggestions to fix this? Fix it? Sounds like you should patent it! --doug > > == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW& Culture > http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ > > -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley From rrumberger at web.de Sun Sep 5 07:22:41 2010 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 09:22:41 +0200 Subject: universal home partition?? In-Reply-To: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> References: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <201009050922.43729.rrumberger@web.de> On Saturday 04 September 2010, Errol Sapir wrote: > I have a separate partition for /home. I only use a KDE desktop, > and have exclusively used Kubuntu. After installing 10.04 I had > several problems with Kubuntu as spoken about in the "impressions > of Lucid" thread. I now want to try other distros that use KDE. > Is there a way of keeping my same home partition for other > distros? I'm not worried about the layout of my home partition > but wouldn't want to loose my documents, e-mail etc. I thought > of maybe even having the other distro as a dual (triple) boot. I > was thinking about trying Fedora or PClinuxos. Errol Your documents and such will likely survive such an experiment (back them up anyway!), but your config files most likely won't unless the other distro uses the same version of KDE and any other program you use that leaves config files within your home directory. Basically, while your "valuable" data will likely be intact, your desktop layout and program configs will likely be corrupted somewhere along the way, resulting in (best case scenario) visual changes and reset configurations or (worst case scenario) random crashes caused by strange values in config files. --Reinhold From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sun Sep 5 07:26:54 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:26:54 +1000 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> On 05/09/2010 13:53, giovanni_re wrote: > KUbuntu 10.04 64 bit, on a desktop box. AMD PhenomII 4 core 64 bit > processor. > > Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it cause it > is broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04 > > Using a regular microphone& speakers. > With audacity recording& playback program, > my box records& plays back fine. > > Skype test call: > lady's voice sounds fine, > but my voice comming back has a very low pitch. > The timing rate of my voice is played back is correct. > > So, the problem is not that my voice is played back both > - slower& lower pitch. > It is played back: > - at the normal rate, but with very low pitch. > > > Any suggestions to fix this? > Sorry, but if you removed pulseaudio then what are you using for your audio? BC -- ...more people are driven insane through religious hysteria than by drinking alcohol. W C Fields From rrumberger at web.de Sun Sep 5 08:01:40 2010 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 10:01:40 +0200 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <201009051001.41603.rrumberger@web.de> On Sunday 05 September 2010, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 05/09/2010 13:53, giovanni_re wrote: > > KUbuntu 10.04 64 bit, on a desktop box. AMD PhenomII 4 core 64 > > bit processor. > > > > Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it > > cause it is broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04 > > Sorry, but if you removed pulseaudio then what are you using for > your audio? Apart from plain old alsa? --Reinhold From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sun Sep 5 08:11:06 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 18:11:06 +1000 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: <201009051001.41603.rrumberger@web.de> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> <201009051001.41603.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <4C83509A.20708@iinet.net.au> On 05/09/2010 18:01, Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > On Sunday 05 September 2010, Basil Chupin wrote: > >> On 05/09/2010 13:53, giovanni_re wrote: >> >>> KUbuntu 10.04 64 bit, on a desktop box. AMD PhenomII 4 core 64 >>> bit processor. >>> >>> Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it >>> cause it is broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04 >>> >> Sorry, but if you removed pulseaudio then what are you using for >> your audio? >> > Apart from plain old alsa? > > --Reinhold > Awww..let him respond :-( . Somewhere in there something may just turn on the light...... BC -- ...more people are driven insane through religious hysteria than by drinking alcohol. W C Fields From dave at thefletchers.net Sun Sep 5 08:15:38 2010 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 09:15:38 +0100 Subject: universal home partition?? In-Reply-To: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> References: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <201009050915.38864.dave@thefletchers.net> On Saturday 04 Sep 2010, Errol Sapir wrote: > I have a separate partition for /home. I only use a KDE desktop, and > have exclusively used Kubuntu. After installing 10.04 I had several > problems with Kubuntu as spoken about in the "impressions of Lucid" > thread. I now want to try other distros that use KDE. Is there a way of > keeping my same home partition for other distros? I'm not worried about > the layout of my home partition but wouldn't want to loose my documents, > e-mail etc. I thought of maybe even having the other distro as a dual > (triple) boot. I was thinking about trying Fedora or PClinuxos. > Errol > I've now got all my email messages on a separate machine stored in maildir format, with dovecot running an IMAP server and an hourly cron job doing rsync of my email to the desktop machine where it will get included in my normal backups. For me, it's pretty cool and it matters not what OS I use with email, it's all the same. I even had Eudora running under an XP virtual machine connected to the IMAP server. So, if you can run a separate box with a Linux server version, I recommend shifting all email to maildirs on that machine then using it with IMAP. I've no idea whether this would be possible with dial up, but if you're on broadband you can even set the router to forward port 993 to the email machine and use a laptop from anywhere with a network connection to gain access to it. BTW for anybody concerned about electricity consumption when running a machine 24/7, mine is built with one of the new single 12V supply Atom motherboards and a 1TB Samsung EcoGreen hard drive and is taking around 30 watts from the mains, fully loaded with running work units from the boinc network. Dave From rrumberger at web.de Sun Sep 5 08:58:07 2010 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 10:58:07 +0200 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: <4C83509A.20708@iinet.net.au> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201009051001.41603.rrumberger@web.de> <4C83509A.20708@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <201009051058.08250.rrumberger@web.de> On Sunday 05 September 2010, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 05/09/2010 18:01, Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > > On Sunday 05 September 2010, Basil Chupin wrote: > >> On 05/09/2010 13:53, giovanni_re wrote: > >>> KUbuntu 10.04 64 bit, on a desktop box. AMD PhenomII 4 core > >>> 64 bit processor. > >>> > >>> Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it > >>> cause it is broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04 > >> > >> Sorry, but if you removed pulseaudio then what are you using > >> for your audio? > > > > Apart from plain old alsa? > > Awww..let him respond :-( . > > Somewhere in there something may just turn on the light...... You're still hopeful after his claim that Skype alters his voice's pitch? I'd normally suggest he uncheck that stupid skype feature that messes with your audio settings, but seeing as that can't possibly change pitch... Oh, well, guess I shouldn't give up hope just yet. --Reinhold (sitting back and enjoying the show) From g.lip at gmx.com Sun Sep 5 09:03:35 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:03:35 +0800 Subject: universal home partition?? In-Reply-To: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> References: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4C835CE7.7090809@gmx.com> On 09/05/2010 01:18 AM, Errol Sapir wrote: > I have a separate partition for /home. I only use a KDE desktop, and > have exclusively used Kubuntu. After installing 10.04 I had several > problems with Kubuntu as spoken about in the "impressions of Lucid" > thread. I now want to try other distros that use KDE. Is there a way of > keeping my same home partition for other distros? I'm not worried about > the layout of my home partition but wouldn't want to loose my documents, > e-mail etc. I thought of maybe even having the other distro as a dual > (triple) boot. I was thinking about trying Fedora or PClinuxos. > Errol > Just to add what others have said, if you have the same /home for different OS's, config files may clash especially with different versions of applications, like firefox, chromium or thunderbird; different versions of kde is particularly troublesome and may cause total freeze. Each of us have our preferred way of handling this, but keep special note of what Reinhold mentioned. So, I'll mention what I do and it is up to you to evaluate your own preference. I only have one partition for each OS, no separate /home, /var, /boot, etc. (I sometimes wonder why set separately and then use LVM to optimize disk usage across sub-partitions). I do have a separate very big Data partition to hold only data and can be used by any OS. To share common config files and to avoid possible clashes, with newer upgrades, either by applications or by kde upgrades, I have a partition that contains all config files and is sys-linked to the respective OS paths. This partition is automatically mounted at fstab in all the OS's and a size of between 2 to 5 GB is sufficient. If there are any conflict with upgrades, the syslink can be easily removed and a new config file established without messing up. Then another config file and syslink restored to handle it. For example, when thunderbird had an upgrade, the syslink was just renamed from .mozilla-thunderbird to .thunderbird and all was well. For the other OS, the syslink named .mozilla-thunderbird was maintained without error from the same config file. You can do the same for other downloaded applications at /opt too without needing to download again. The same finetuning can be done for different versions of kde, though the difference between kde3 and kde4 is too big that I have separate .kde files for each. (kde3 was recently removed). So my typical OS partition just take up about 4 to 7GB, though it may vary for different OS. I need to mention that I have a separate partition, 180 MB but uses only 1.2 MB, in grub2, independent of any OS, for booting any OS. But that is a separate issue and I mention it just to give a total picture. Errol, my method was devised after a similar question to this same list and having many suggestions too. Many belated thanks to all. I am now just passing the baton. Regards - Goh Lip -- Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate From myriam at kubuntu.org Sun Sep 5 10:04:17 2010 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 12:04:17 +0200 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Hi all, On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 09:26, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 05/09/2010 13:53, giovanni_re wrote: >> KUbuntu 10.04 64 bit,  on a desktop box. AMD PhenomII 4 core 64 bit >> processor. >> >> Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it cause it >> is broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04 ... > Sorry, but if you removed pulseaudio then what are you using for your audio? Basil, KDE uses Phonon and not Pulseaudio. Pulseaudio is just another layer on top, and not really needed for KDE. The only reason to use pulseaudio is if you want network sound, which phonon can't do right now. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From myriam at kubuntu.org Sun Sep 5 10:14:18 2010 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 12:14:18 +0200 Subject: universal home partition?? In-Reply-To: References: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 05:40, BHASKAR SHARMA.N wrote: > I think now a linux reinstallation don't format entire > partitions..simply similar files/folders will get replaced..why > sticking with kde? That's not much stable as gnome.. Could you please stop bashing about KDE and let people choose their desktop? If you are not using KDE, I think you should not interfere. This mailing lsit is about Kubuntu and KDE after all. The mentioned idea to keep the same /home has absolutely nothing to do with the choice of the desktop, but with the underlying Linux system. Also, top-posting is not a good idea in a mailing list, how about having a look at the etiquette? > On 9/4/10, Errol Sapir wrote: >> I have a separate partition for /home. I only use a KDE desktop, and >> have exclusively used Kubuntu. After installing 10.04 I had several >> problems with Kubuntu as spoken about in the "impressions of Lucid" >> thread. I now want to try other distros that use KDE. Is there a way of >> keeping my same home partition for other distros? I'm not worried about >> the layout of my home partition but wouldn't want to loose my documents, >> e-mail etc.  I thought of maybe even having the other distro as a dual >> (triple) boot. I was thinking about trying Fedora or PClinuxos. Keep in mind that user ids don't start at the same number in Red Hat or Debian based systems, so you might get in trouble with that. Also, some distributions tend to change the distribution repository names in $HOME, OpenSuSE uses .kde4 instead of .kde for example. So to start with I suggest you create a new user for the other system. You can still access your documents if you use a shared folder Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun Sep 5 10:35:48 2010 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:35:48 +1000 Subject: Spam:****, Re: universal home partition?? In-Reply-To: <4C835CE7.7090809@gmx.com> References: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> <4C835CE7.7090809@gmx.com> Message-ID: <201009052035.49374.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 07:03:35 pm Goh Lip wrote: > I only have one partition for each OS, no separate /home, /var, /boot, > etc. (I sometimes wonder why set separately and then use LVM to optimize > disk usage across sub-partitions). I do have a separate very big Data > partition to hold only data and can be used by any OS. I do something very similar to this as I usually have several test systems installed on different partitions. I agree that sharing a $HOME dir between different boots is a recipie for grief, however I do store some universal data - bookmarks, address books, kwallet in a Dropbox folder and this works very well. Dual purpose - they get backed up automatically and shared between different distros. I have a script setup that I run fro new install's to restore m config from Dropbox. #!/bin/sh # Remove existing rm -f ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl rm -f ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml rm -f ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml.tbcache rm -f ~/.kde/share/apps/akregator/data/feeds.opml # Create Links ln -s `pwd`/kdewallet.kwl ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl ln -s `pwd`/bookmarks.xml ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml ln -s `pwd`/pim/feeds.opml ~/.kde/share/apps/akregator/data/feeds.opml Its best to run it with X shutdown. -- Lindsay http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home From myriam at kubuntu.org Sun Sep 5 10:49:32 2010 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 12:49:32 +0200 Subject: Spam:****, Re: universal home partition?? In-Reply-To: <201009052035.49374.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> <4C835CE7.7090809@gmx.com> <201009052035.49374.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 12:35, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 07:03:35 pm Goh Lip wrote: >> I only have one partition for each OS, no separate /home, /var, /boot, >> etc. (I sometimes wonder why set separately and then use LVM to optimize >> disk usage across sub-partitions). I do have a separate very big Data >> partition to hold only data and can be used by any OS. > > > I do something very similar to this as I usually have several test systems > installed on different partitions. > > I agree that sharing a $HOME dir between different boots is a recipie for > grief, however I do store some universal data - bookmarks, address books, > kwallet in a Dropbox folder and this works very well. Dual purpose - they get > backed up automatically and shared between different distros. I have a script > setup that I run fro new install's to restore m config from Dropbox. > > > #!/bin/sh > # Remove existing > rm -f ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl > rm -f ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml > rm -f ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml.tbcache > rm -f ~/.kde/share/apps/akregator/data/feeds.opml > > # Create Links > ln -s `pwd`/kdewallet.kwl ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl > ln -s `pwd`/bookmarks.xml ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml > ln -s `pwd`/pim/feeds.opml ~/.kde/share/apps/akregator/data/feeds.opml > > > Its best to run it with X shutdown. Nice suggestion, thanks a lot. For people with low bandwidth or shaky connections this is unfortunately not a real solution. I do a backup of my $HOME daily with rsync to an external USB hard disk, this allows me to access the data quite easily and I have a portable solution as well. With the current prices for USB hard disk this should not be unaffordable, and you have a backup of your data :) A lot of users tend to forget to backup their data on a regular basis. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From valtermura at gmail.com Sun Sep 5 10:51:52 2010 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 12:51:52 +0200 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201009051251.52890.valtermura@gmail.com> In data domenica 5 settembre 2010 05:53:23, giovanni_re ha scritto: > KUbuntu 10.04 64 bit, on a desktop box. AMD PhenomII 4 core 64 bit > processor. Pentium IV, 32bit > > Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it cause it > is broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04 > > Using a regular microphone & speakers. > With audacity recording & playback program, > my box records & plays back fine. > > Skype test call: > lady's voice sounds fine, > but my voice comming back has a very low pitch. > The timing rate of my voice is played back is correct. My Skype works correctly: In Mixer I chose Mic (enabled it), then Mic select (Mic 2 chosen, 1 didn't work). Using Phonon, as per info system. Regards, -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Sun Sep 5 11:00:10 2010 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:00:10 +0100 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C83783A.5020604@btinternet.com> On 05/09/10 11:04, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > On Sunday 05 September 2010, Basil Chupin wrote: > >> > On 05/09/2010 18:01, Reinhold Rumberger wrote: >> >>> > > On Sunday 05 September 2010, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> >>>> > >> On 05/09/2010 13:53, giovanni_re wrote: >>>> >>>>> > >>> KUbuntu 10.04 64 bit, on a desktop box. AMD PhenomII 4 core >>>>> > >>> 64 bit processor. >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it >>>>> > >>> cause it is broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04 >>>>> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Sorry, but if you removed pulseaudio then what are you using >>>> > >> for your audio? >>>> >>> > > >>> > > Apart from plain old alsa? >>> >> > >> > Awww..let him respond:-( . >> > >> > Somewhere in there something may just turn on the light...... >> > You're still hopeful after his claim that Skype alters his voice's > pitch? I'd normally suggest he uncheck that stupid skype feature that > messes with your audio settings, but seeing as that can't possibly > change pitch... > Oh, well, guess I shouldn't give up hope just yet. > > --Reinhold > (sitting back and enjoying the show) > I had exactly this problem for months and had given up, I had removed pulseaudio in total and I still don't have it installed, I have only alsa. Everything worked fine except skype. Last week I had trouble with speed in 'google earth' and found that I wasn't running the latest Nvidia package I installed this which fixed 'google earth', it also fixed a lot of other things too, such as skype and screen-shadowing. I just wonder if you have the latest graphics driver for whatever hardware you have. brian > > > ------------------------------ > > From bqz69 at telia.com Sun Sep 5 11:00:01 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 11:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: how to get rid of plugin-containe(r) in lucid Message-ID: I have killed my plugin-containe (as seen in top) as it uses some extra cpu power constantly. How do I get rid of this permanently, and does it harm to get rid of it? From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Sep 5 11:29:16 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh at claydoh.com) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 07:29:16 -0400 Subject: universal home partition?? In-Reply-To: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> References: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: > I have a separate partition for /home. I only use a KDE desktop, and > have exclusively used Kubuntu. After installing 10.04 I had several > problems with Kubuntu as spoken about in the "impressions of Lucid" > thread. I now want to try other distros that use KDE. Is there a way of > keeping my same home partition for other distros? I'm not worried about > the layout of my home partition but wouldn't want to loose my documents, > e-mail etc. I thought of maybe even having the other distro as a dual > (triple) boot. I was thinking about trying Fedora or PClinuxos. > Errol > > -- You are perfectly fine having a common /home directory, but if you intend to use a common *username* across different distros, you most likely will have ownership problems as different distros may assign a different user *id* number that correlates to the user name. This could render you unable to login with that username in another OS. Also, sharing a common username between distros will also mess with your desktop layout, wallpapers, etc. depending on what themes, images and default settings each OS has installed And some distros may also store local configs in a different folder (.kde4 instead of .kde for example). I recommend using different usernames. you can easily copy config files between the different OS's. As for accessing documents, you should still be able to browse to them fine, but a separate folder or partition for these file might be a good idea so you can save them back. Clay From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sun Sep 5 12:57:46 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:57:46 +1000 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4C8393CA.4020900@iinet.net.au> On 05/09/2010 20:04, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi all, > > On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 09:26, Basil Chupin wrote: > >> On 05/09/2010 13:53, giovanni_re wrote: >> >>> KUbuntu 10.04 64 bit, Â on a desktop box. AMD PhenomII 4 core 64 bit >>> processor. >>> >>> Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it cause it >>> is broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04 >>> > ... > >> Sorry, but if you removed pulseaudio then what are you using for your audio? >> > Basil, KDE uses Phonon and not Pulseaudio. Pulseaudio is just another > layer on top, and not really needed for KDE. The only reason to use > pulseaudio is if you want network sound, which phonon can't do right > now. > > > Regards, Myriam. > Myriam, The OP stated in his first message that he- QUOTE "Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it cause itis broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04". UNQUOTE to which I then responded by asking- QUOTE Sorry, but if you removed pulseaudio then what are you using for your audio? UNQUOTE to which you then responded with the above - while I am still waiting for the OP to provide an answer to my question. BC -- ...more people are driven insane through religious hysteria than by drinking alcohol. W C Fields From kara.ml at arcor.de Sun Sep 5 15:23:48 2010 From: kara.ml at arcor.de (kara.ml at arcor.de) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:23:48 +0200 Subject: how to get rid of plugin-containe(r) in lucid In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C83B604.4010402@arcor.de> Hi, > I have killed my plugin-containe (as seen in top) as it uses some extra > cpu power constantly. > > How do I get rid of this permanently, and does it harm to get rid of it? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Plugin-container_and_out-of-process_plugins -- Ciao Kai From wayward4now at gmail.com Sun Sep 5 16:01:36 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:01:36 -0400 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1283702496.6899.1.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Sun, 2010-09-05 at 12:04 +0200, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi all, > > On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 09:26, Basil Chupin wrote: > > On 05/09/2010 13:53, giovanni_re wrote: > >> KUbuntu 10.04 64 bit, on a desktop box. AMD PhenomII 4 core 64 bit > >> processor. > >> > >> Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it cause it > >> is broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04 > ... > > Sorry, but if you removed pulseaudio then what are you using for your audio? > > Basil, KDE uses Phonon and not Pulseaudio. Pulseaudio is just another > layer on top, and not really needed for KDE. The only reason to use > pulseaudio is if you want network sound, which phonon can't do right > now. Doesn't the newer Skype client need pulseaudio?? Works like a charm for me. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From rrumberger at web.de Sun Sep 5 16:19:42 2010 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 18:19:42 +0200 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: <1283702496.6899.1.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1283702496.6899.1.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <201009051819.45313.rrumberger@web.de> On Sunday 05 September 2010, Ric Moore wrote: > On Sun, 2010-09-05 at 12:04 +0200, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 09:26, Basil Chupin wrote: > > > On 05/09/2010 13:53, giovanni_re wrote: > > >> KUbuntu 10.04 64 bit, on a desktop box. AMD PhenomII 4 core > > >> 64 bit processor. > > >> > > >> Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it > > >> cause it is broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04 > > > > ... > > > > > Sorry, but if you removed pulseaudio then what are you using > > > for your audio? > > > > Basil, KDE uses Phonon and not Pulseaudio. Pulseaudio is just > > another layer on top, and not really needed for KDE. The only > > reason to use pulseaudio is if you want network sound, which > > phonon can't do right now. > > Doesn't the newer Skype client need pulseaudio?? Nope. > Works like a charm for me. Ric Lucky you, then... --Reinhold From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Sun Sep 5 18:05:04 2010 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 14:05:04 -0400 Subject: widgets? Message-ID: <4C83DBD0.9000207@optonline.net> This probably sounds silly, but what the heck are widgets? I believe they are something that KDE4 invented. What's the difference between widgets and icons? Or are widgets the icons seen in the system tray? Or what? --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Sep 5 18:42:19 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh at claydoh.com) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 14:42:19 -0400 Subject: widgets? In-Reply-To: <4C83DBD0.9000207@optonline.net> References: <4C83DBD0.9000207@optonline.net> Message-ID: > This probably sounds silly, but what the heck are widgets? I believe > they are something that KDE4 invented. What's the difference between > widgets and icons? Or are widgets the icons seen in the system tray? > Or what? > > --doug > -- > Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. > --A.M. Greeley > An icon is just an image that may be a link to a program. Widgets are basically small applets, but everything on a KDE4 desktop is a widget, from the folder view widget to the panel and task and down to desktop icons. Think of a widget as a container holding something, whether it is an icon, or the system tray in the panel. KDE4 by no means invented widgets - Superkaramba in KDE3, gnome can have them, and I hear that Windows 7 and Mac have them as well. Some user-written wiki pages that may help: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma http://userbase.kde.org/KWin Clay From bhaskarsharma.n at gmail.com Sun Sep 5 13:30:53 2010 From: bhaskarsharma.n at gmail.com (BHASKAR SHARMA.N) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:00:53 +0530 Subject: firefox 3.6.6 in Kubuntu 8.04 In-Reply-To: References: <201008131710.42073.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <201008131722.10275.gene.heskett@gmail.com> Message-ID: That you don't ask now.. A fully functional browser..have you ever seen chrome in windows? You'll find it's more advantages when you use slower internet connection.. On 9/5/10, ray burke wrote: > On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:47 PM, BHASKAR SHARMA.N > wrote: >> Go to google.com/chrome..:) get the .deb pack install it as default.. >> You'll get the fastest browser and relief from all problems :) >> >> On 9/3/10, I am me wrote: >>> On 3 September 2010 11:06, ray burke wrote: >>>> I am not surte about the key, but I think that you should be able to >>>> create your own? >>> >>> Yes you can, context click on any Key in about:config > New > ... >>> >>> -- >>> >>>   & RU  d*_*b >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> -BHASKAR SHARMA.N >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > BHASKAR SHARMA.N , > > thanks will download and install on Kubuntu and see whats its like? > > ray > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- -BHASKAR SHARMA.N From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Sep 5 21:00:50 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 17:00:50 -0400 Subject: KOrganizer calendar flickering overlapping events. KOrganizer 4.4.2 in KUbuntu 10.04; jor In-Reply-To: <1283467749.14507.1393101549@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1283467749.14507.1393101549@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201009051700.50628.claydoh@claydoh.com> > I'm hoping this note to the KDE & KUbuntu communities might alert a > capable developer who could move this bug some steps toward progress fix > completion. > > > Thanks. :) I would highly suggest bugs.kde.org as well the kdepim mailing list -- that's where the pim-specific developers hang out, I highly doubt any KDE devs spend a lot of time in a distro-specific user list. many more capable eyes would see this in the bug tracker or the kdepim mailing list Clay From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Sep 5 21:17:06 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 17:17:06 -0400 Subject: KOrganizer calendar flickering overlapping events. KOrganizer 4.4.2 in KUbuntu 10.04; jor In-Reply-To: <1283467749.14507.1393101549@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1283467749.14507.1393101549@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201009051717.07145.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Thursday, September 02, 2010 06:49:09 pm giovanni_re wrote: > I doubt I can afford time to file a bug on this, since I'm too busy. I > could maybe provide some more specifics in regard to specific email > questions. Please file a bug if this hasn't been fixed (on both KUbuntu > & KDE bug trackers?), & you can file the bug. Thanks. > Even though it seems that you are always too busy, the amount of time you have already spent on this email with its detail is *perfect* for a bug report, actually. (you took the time to write it with quite a nice set of information actually) It has plenty of details that could help pinpoint either where the issue is or whether more specific info is needed. or whether this has already been fixed in 4.4.5's kdepim. You would probably be spending *less* time if you asked about this in a better venue rather than in here - unless you are wanting someone else to do the work for you, which it seems to be :( I don't quite follow what you are seeing, but I am using kdepim 4.4.5 and don't see any calendar issues with multiple items on one day. clay From john_re at fastmail.us Sun Sep 5 21:46:10 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 14:46:10 -0700 Subject: KOrganizer calendar flickering overlapping events. KOrganizer 4.4.2 in KUbuntu 10.04; jor Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <201009051717.07145.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <1283467749.14507.1393101549@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201009051717.07145.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <1283723170.6001.1393481709@webmail.messagingengine.com> thanks for your great efforts, clay. :) On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 17:17:06 -0400, "Clay Weber" said: > On Thursday, September 02, 2010 06:49:09 pm giovanni_re wrote: > > I doubt I can afford time to file a bug on this, since I'm too busy. I > > could maybe provide some more specifics in regard to specific email > > questions. Please file a bug if this hasn't been fixed (on both KUbuntu > > & KDE bug trackers?), & you can file the bug. Thanks. > > > > Even though it seems that you are always too busy, the amount t of time you > have > already spent on this email with its detail is *perfect* for a bug > report, > actually. (you took the time to write it with quite a nice set of > information > actually) It has plenty of details that could help pinpoint either where > the > issue is or whether more specific info is needed. or whether this has > already > been fixed in 4.4.5's kdepim. You would probably be spending *less* time > if you _if_ : Point: only if I _had_ known about those venues, which i didn't. Thanks to your last email, though, I put on my long todo list to try to make time to forward my email on to those other 2 lists - kdepim & bugs. Or, if you (or anyone) saw (or in the future sees) some/my info, & knew it should be moved to some other place/list/bugreport in the world, you or they could just as easily add those email addresses to cc when you sent the reply to me, & that would move the information closer to where someone able to step it one more step forward would see it, & would then thus be in a position to take that step. [That is my info for you, & everyone reading this, who possesses those abilities, can also, if _you/they_ have time, can perhaps very easily move things forward toward a better world for us all.] > asked about this in a better venue rather than in here - unless you are > wanting someone else to do the work for you, which it seems to be :( I don't wsetdtwf me. My intention was to give a seed of knowledge to the people with an interest, ability, & time to move the issue one further step towards resolution. I could certainly file a bug report (i've filed bug reports before) - if I had the time. Time I don't have. I did also send that origianl bug message to the kde list. > I don't quite follow what you are seeing, but I am using kdepim 4.4.5 and > don't see any calendar issues with multiple items on one day. ***** One might need to have about 7+ different time overlapping events, in a way that causes both 1/3 & 1/4 spacing to occur. ***** A further piece of info: The flickering happened for several (2-12?) hours, & then stopped. ***** So, additionally, this might only happen when the current time marker line is within the bounds of one of the events. ***** = I'l send this to the kde list. Clay - what is the email address for the 1) bugs.kde.org as well the 2) kdepim mailing list ? Thanks. == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From john_re at fastmail.us Sun Sep 5 22:12:47 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:12:47 -0700 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 - packages ; jor KUbuntu In-Reply-To: <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1283724767.9352.1393483971@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:26:54 +1000, "Basil Chupin" said: > Sorry, but if you removed pulseaudio then what are you using for your > audio? dpkg -l | grep pulse rc libpulse-browse0 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14 PulseAudio client libraries (zeroconf suppor ii libpulse-mainloop-glib0 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14 PulseAudio client libraries (glib support) ii libpulse0 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14 PulseAudio client libraries rc pulseaudio 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14 PulseAudio sound server ii vlc-plugin-pulse 1.0.6-1ubuntu1.2 PulseAudio plugin for VLC dpkg -l | grep alsa ii alsa-base 1.0.22.1+dfsg-0ubuntu3 ALSA driver configuration files ii alsa-utils 1.0.22-0ubuntu5 ALSA utilities ii bluez-alsa 4.60-0ubuntu8 Bluetooth audio support ii libsdl1.2debian-alsa 1.2.14-4ubuntu1.1 Simple DirectMedia Layer (with X11 and ALSA dpkg -l | grep oss ii audacity 1.3.12-2 A fast, cross-platform audio editor ii audacity-data 1.3.12-2 A fast, cross-platform audio editor (data) ii krosspython 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu2 Python module for Kross ii libao2 0.8.8-5ubuntu2 Cross Platform Audio Output Library ii libflac++6 1.2.1-2build2 Free Lossless Audio Codec - C++ runtime libr ii libflac8 1.2.1-2build2 Free Lossless Audio Codec - runtime C librar ii libieee1284-3 0.2.11-5ubuntu3 cross-platform library for parallel port acc ii libqca2-plugin-ossl 0.1~20070904-4build1 QCA OSSL plugin for libqca2 ii libwavpack1 4.60.1-1 an audio codec (lossy and lossless) - librar ii libwxgtk2.8-0 2.8.10.1-0ubuntu1.2 wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GT ii oss-compat 0.0.4+nmu3 OSS compatibility package dpkg -l | grep phon ii libphonon4 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu5 Qt 4 Phonon module ii phonon 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu5 Qt 4 Phonon module metapackage ii phonon-backend-xine 4:4.4.0-0ubuntu2 Phonon Xine 1.1.x backend Are there any other packages worth checking for? = Hardware: Desktop mobo from Asus, Plugged simple regular mic into the mic jack on the mobo, After trying several combinations to get the mic to work in Audacity, I wound up on both Adacity (IIRC) & definitely on skype, choosing for mic input: HDA ATI SB, ALC1200 Analog (hw:0.2) i did _not_ select: HDA ATI SB, ALC1200 Analog (hw:0.0) the only other analog input available. In the detailed KDE mixer settings I set to max the Mic Boost, & Mic Boost (capture). Capture & Capture 2 had the only check box checked (at the bottom), & had volume at max. Inupt source was Front Mic, Inupt source 2 was Mic. The top "Mute" row of check boxes has everything checked except an "audio plug" graphic labled "side" - probably an oversight that I didn't check it. (I'm thinking/guesing mute is for direct passthrough of input to the output speakers. That's not desired when using the mic for voice com.) = I'd originally installed Pulse audio because a friend, who uses the gnome interface on ubuntu, told me that pa would make it easier (to see?) what devices were selected for which inputs for various programs. IIRC, a vague memory was that something worked better, perhaps. perhaps even skype. But, pa isn't working properly in KU 10.04, so because of some breakage I removed it. = So, anyone having this low voice problem with skype in ku 10.04? == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From john_re at fastmail.us Sun Sep 5 22:18:27 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:18:27 -0700 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem - mixer adjust no effect, KUbuntu 10.04 ; or kubuntu In-Reply-To: <201009051058.08250.rrumberger@web.de> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201009051001.41603.rrumberger@web.de> <4C83509A.20708@iinet.net.au> <201009051058.08250.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <1283725107.11205.1393485463@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 10:58:07 +0200, "Reinhold Rumberger" said: > You're still hopeful after his claim that Skype alters his voice's > pitch? I'd normally suggest he uncheck that stupid skype feature that > messes with your audio settings, but seeing as that can't possibly > change pitch... > Oh, well, guess I shouldn't give up hope just yet. I tried both checked & unchecked for Skype > Main Menu > Options > Sound Devices > "Allow skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels". It had no effect on the very low pitch problem. The low pitch modification is also hard to comprehend. I can tell the rate is 1-1 time wise, because I know what I said. But, someone else would hear very low speech sounds but the words would be hard to comprehend. == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From john_re at fastmail.us Sun Sep 5 22:23:15 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:23:15 -0700 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, - pulse audio benefit? KUbuntu 10.04; jor kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1283725395.10384.1393485793@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 12:04:17 +0200, "Myriam Schweingruber" said: > Basil, KDE uses Phonon and not Pulseaudio. Pulseaudio is just another > layer on top, and not really needed for KDE. The only reason to use > pulseaudio is if you want network sound, which phonon can't do right > now. I have a vague memory from several months ago, maybe only 20% clarity mental memory, that pulse audio did have some benefit - like perhaps eliminating this exact low pitch problem. But, at this time I'm _very_ unsure on that memory. I just mention it so others might note that perhaps PA did have some benefit, or modification effect, in this aspect of my system. Perhaps it _caused_ this problem, in some way, like when I removed it. Impossible for me to recall at this time. == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From john_re at fastmail.us Sun Sep 5 22:30:33 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:30:33 -0700 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, - Ubuntu + kde for network manager, pulse audio - KUbuntu 10.04; jor kubuntu In-Reply-To: <1283702496.6899.1.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> <1283702496.6899.1.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <1283725833.11071.1393486529@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:01:36 -0400, "Ric Moore" said: > Doesn't the newer Skype client need pulseaudio?? Works like a charm for > me. Ric Ric, iirc you've got that ubuntu + kde system, which i'm thinking based on some thing(s?) you've mentioned success with, I am tempted to try - except that I have made so many sw installs & adjustments to my system, that it would be basically time prohibitive for me to do a fresh install. So, basically, I'm hoping I can get this system (skype right now) working well enough, so that a KU 10.10 update will bring in new & working: 1) network manager, & 2) skype so that I don't have to do a fresh ub 10.4 instal, & then add KDE 4 on top of that. :) == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From john_re at fastmail.us Sun Sep 5 22:32:22 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:32:22 -0700 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, - info system - KUbuntu 10.04; jor kubuntu In-Reply-To: <201009051251.52890.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201009051251.52890.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1283725942.11084.1393486933@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 12:51:52 +0200, "Valter Mura" said: > My Skype works correctly: In Mixer I chose Mic (enabled it), then Mic > select > (Mic 2 chosen, 1 didn't work). > > Using Phonon, as per info system. What do you mean by : "as per info system"? Thanks :) == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Mon Sep 6 00:13:19 2010 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:13:19 -0400 Subject: GUI VPN setup, config & manage tools? Anything working in KUbuntu 10.04? ; jor In-Reply-To: <1283664014.21034.1393406557@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1283664014.21034.1393406557@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201009052013.19781.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Sunday, September 05, 2010 01:20:14 am giovanni_re wrote: > What are any (good) GUI VPN tools to setup, configure, & manage in KU > 10.04? > > apt-cache search vpn | sort shows these, among others: > gadmin-openvpn-client - GTK+ configuration tool for openvpn (client) > ike-qtgui - Shrew Soft VPN client - Connection manager > kvpnc - vpn clients frontend for KDE4 > network-manager-openvpn-kde - KDE NetworkManagement infrastructure > (OpenVPN plugin) > network-manager-openvpn - network management framework (OpenVPN plugin) > tunneldigger - Configures OpenVPN tunnel networks > > > Thanks. > > == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture > http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ > > > Don't know about in 10.04 but I like KVpnc. I use it to connect to my work (cisco vpn). Supports a bunch of different protocols and is easily used form the command line if you feel like typing words and not clicking. And its not written using GTK. Works for me. Alan From wayward4now at gmail.com Mon Sep 6 01:14:44 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:14:44 -0400 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: <201009051819.45313.rrumberger@web.de> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1283702496.6899.1.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <201009051819.45313.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <1283735684.6899.55.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Sun, 2010-09-05 at 18:19 +0200, Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > On Sunday 05 September 2010, Ric Moore wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-09-05 at 12:04 +0200, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 09:26, Basil Chupin > wrote: > > > > On 05/09/2010 13:53, giovanni_re wrote: > > > >> KUbuntu 10.04 64 bit, on a desktop box. AMD PhenomII 4 core > > > >> 64 bit processor. > > > >> > > > >> Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it > > > >> cause it is broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04 > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > Sorry, but if you removed pulseaudio then what are you using > > > > for your audio? > > > > > > Basil, KDE uses Phonon and not Pulseaudio. Pulseaudio is just > > > another layer on top, and not really needed for KDE. The only > > > reason to use pulseaudio is if you want network sound, which > > > phonon can't do right now. > > > > Doesn't the newer Skype client need pulseaudio?? > > Nope. > > > Works like a charm for me. Ric > > Lucky you, then... I cheated. I installed Ubuntu first, checked out pulse, everything worked, then installed KDE as a Desktop. Pulse still works and switches between audio sources like a champ. Skype worked better than ever. Right out of the box without me doing one darn thing to it. No luck to it. I love KDE as a desktop. No doubt about it. I love the sinner, just hate the sin. If the OP gets desperate enough, I would suggest install Ubuntu 10.4 from scratch, without adding back ~any~ old home directory files or config files and see if that works. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From john_re at fastmail.us Mon Sep 6 05:56:44 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:56:44 -0700 Subject: Ubuntu pulse-audio into KUbuntu ; jor KUbuntu Message-ID: <1283752604.32319.1393522441@webmail.messagingengine.com> What's a/some good way, to fairly quickly get the working pulse-audio system from the Ubuntu 10.04 into a KUbuntu 10.04 system? = Background: KU's pa install is broken: doesn't work. But, Ubuntu's works. In fact, Ric Moore, Ubuntu+KDE user, specifically took extra steps to get a system with a working PA in an Ubuntu 10.04 system that uses the KDE desktop: He installed Ubuntu, & added in KDE. Note: merely adding the pulse-audio package into a KUbuntu 10.04 system brings in a pa system that is broken, doesn't work. = So, given Ric's success, a working KDE system on Ubuntu 10.04 can have PA working properly, I'm thinking there is highly likely some fairly easy way to get the Ubuntu PA stuff into a KUbuntu system. I'm thinking there is likely somewhere on earth someone who can fairly easily figure out how to do that. Probably someone who knows some CS graph dependency theory, some sort search & prune theory & tools, & who can figure out how to query the Ubuntu & KUbuntu 10.04 apt package manager database, & figure out exactly what packages & configurations are needed, & a procedure to get them there/installed. Do a diff on 2 working systems, or on just the package dependency graph, & determine what the relevant differences & necessities are. = Point: I have a working KUbuntu system, with so much configuration & extra sw added to it that it would be an immense job to do a fresh Ubuntu install, add KDE, (to get PA working), & have to add in all the other stuff I've added & configured. Background: this is currently motivated by the fact that my Skype install fails the voice loopback, by returning voice grossly lowered in pitch, but at the proper rate. [In Audacity, I can record & play back my voice fine, so the problem is Skype related, & pulse-audio might provide a better setup for Skype to work from.] IIRC, I'm 50% sure, some months ago Skype did loopback my voice properly. &, I have a vague recollection that pulse audio somehow might have helped, or could help, get this skype problem fixed. = I'm thinking that perhaps, for a working KDE in Ubuntu system, at worst I might have to apt _UN_install some/all of the KDE stuff, then install the pulse audio stuff, & then reinstall the KDE stuff. = Anyone know the answer, or see this as an interesting challenge, & can figure out a way to get pulse-audio working on an already installed KUbuntu 10.04 system? Thanks :) == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Sep 6 08:46:27 2010 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:46:27 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu pulse-audio into KUbuntu ; jor KUbuntu In-Reply-To: <1283752604.32319.1393522441@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1283752604.32319.1393522441@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4C84AA63.6030400@gmail.com> On 06/09/2010 07:56, giovanni_re wrote: > What's a/some good way, to fairly quickly get the working pulse-audio > system from the Ubuntu 10.04 into a KUbuntu 10.04 system? > > = > Background: KU's pa install is broken: doesn't work. But, Ubuntu's > works. > > In fact, Ric Moore, Ubuntu+KDE user, specifically took extra steps to > get a system with a working PA in an Ubuntu 10.04 system that uses the > KDE desktop: He installed Ubuntu,& added in KDE. > > Note: merely adding the pulse-audio package into a KUbuntu 10.04 system > brings in a pa system that is broken, doesn't work. > > = > So, given Ric's success, a working KDE system on Ubuntu 10.04 can have > PA working properly, > I'm thinking there is highly likely some fairly easy way to get the > Ubuntu PA stuff into a KUbuntu system. > > I'm thinking there is likely somewhere on earth someone who can fairly > easily figure out how to do that. Probably someone who knows some CS > graph dependency theory, some sort search& prune theory& tools,& who > can figure out how to query the Ubuntu& KUbuntu 10.04 apt package > manager database,& figure out exactly what packages& configurations > are needed,& a procedure to get them there/installed. > > Do a diff on 2 working systems, or on just the package dependency graph, > & determine what the relevant differences& necessities are. > > = > Point: I have a working KUbuntu system, with so much configuration& > extra sw added to it that it would be an immense job to do a fresh > Ubuntu install, add KDE, (to get PA working),& have to add in all the > other stuff I've added& configured. > > > Background: this is currently motivated by the fact that my Skype > install fails the voice loopback, by returning voice grossly lowered in > pitch, but at the proper rate. [In Audacity, I can record& play back > my voice fine, so the problem is Skype related,& pulse-audio might > provide a better setup for Skype to work from.] IIRC, I'm 50% sure, > some months ago Skype did loopback my voice properly.&, I have a vague > recollection that pulse audio somehow might have helped, or could help, > get this skype problem fixed. > > = > I'm thinking that perhaps, for a working KDE in Ubuntu system, at worst > I might have to apt _UN_install some/all of the KDE stuff, then install > the pulse audio stuff,& then reinstall the KDE stuff. > > = > Anyone know the answer, or see this as an interesting challenge,& can > figure out a way to get pulse-audio working on an already installed > KUbuntu 10.04 system? > > I have no idea but I noted that in 10.10 pulseaudio in KDE is supported - you might want to try the beta? From claydoh at claydoh.com Mon Sep 6 14:04:23 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:04:23 -0400 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 - packages ; jor KUbuntu In-Reply-To: <1283724767.9352.1393483971@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> <1283724767.9352.1393483971@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201009061004.23700.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Sunday, September 05, 2010 06:12:47 pm giovanni_re wrote: > > = > > So, anyone having this low voice problem with skype in ku 10.04? > Maybe no one in this very small group does, but there are reports of this in Skype's own Linux forums........ Clay From claydoh at claydoh.com Mon Sep 6 14:31:48 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:31:48 -0400 Subject: KOrganizer calendar flickering overlapping events. KOrganizer 4.4.2 in KUbuntu 10.04; jor Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <1283723170.6001.1393481709@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1283467749.14507.1393101549@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201009051717.07145.claydoh@claydoh.com> <1283723170.6001.1393481709@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201009061031.48756.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Sunday, September 05, 2010 05:46:10 pm giovanni_re wrote: > thanks for your great efforts, clay. :) > > On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 17:17:06 -0400, "Clay Weber" > > said: > > On Thursday, September 02, 2010 06:49:09 pm giovanni_re wrote: > > > I doubt I can afford time to file a bug on this, since I'm too busy. I > > > could maybe provide some more specifics in regard to specific email > > > questions. Please file a bug if this hasn't been fixed (on both > > > KUbuntu & KDE bug trackers?), & you can file the bug. Thanks. > > > > Even though it seems that you are always too busy, the amount t of time > > you have > > already spent on this email with its detail is *perfect* for a bug > > report, > > actually. (you took the time to write it with quite a nice set of > > information > > actually) It has plenty of details that could help pinpoint either where > > the > > issue is or whether more specific info is needed. or whether this has > > already > > been fixed in 4.4.5's kdepim. You would probably be spending *less* time > > if you > > _if_ : Point: only if I _had_ known about those venues, which i didn't. > > Thanks to your last email, though, I put on my long todo list to try to > make time to forward my email on to those other 2 lists - kdepim & bugs. How much time does it take to recompose an email for a different list? You forward stuff to other lists often enough, even this reply was forwarded, and i am not even subscribed to that list. Which is probably just confusing the subscribers there. > Or, if you (or anyone) saw (or in the future sees) some/my info, & knew > it should be moved to some other place/list/bugreport in the world, you > or they could just as easily add those email addresses to cc when you > sent the reply to me, & that would move the information closer to where > someone able to step it one more step forward would see it, & would then > thus be in a position to take that step. Again, you want us to do your work for you. I am pointing you to these other places. I (and anyone else for that matter) may not have your issue at hand, or cannot reproduce it. So I am not capable of providing any necessary feedback to those who may look at the problem. And I sure am not going to be a middle-man funneling information, questions, and feedback back and forth. > [That is my info for you, & everyone reading this, who possesses those > abilities, can also, if _you/they_ have time, can perhaps very easily > move things forward toward a better world for us all.] > > > asked about this in a better venue rather than in here - unless you are > > wanting someone else to do the work for you, which it seems to be :( > > I don't wsetdtwf me. Right > My intention was to give a seed of knowledge to the people with an > interest, ability, & time to move the issue one further step towards > resolution. And I am pointing you to other, more relevant places that will add many, many more eyes than this tiny list provides. Which will save you time in the end. Starting at the top for something that is not distro-specific is maybe a better place to start in this case (your pulseaudio installation questions on the other hand *do* belong here, as opposed to being cross-posted to the kde list) > I could certainly file a bug report (i've filed bug reports before) - > if I had the time. Time I don't have. > > I did also send that origianl bug message to the kde list. > > I don't quite follow what you are seeing, but I am using kdepim 4.4.5 and > > don't see any calendar issues with multiple items on one day. > > ***** One might need to have about 7+ different time overlapping > events, in a way that causes both 1/3 & 1/4 spacing to occur. > > > ***** A further piece of info: > The flickering happened for several (2-12?) hours, & then stopped. > ***** So, additionally, this might only happen when the current time > marker line is within the bounds of one of the events. ***** > > = > I'l send this to the kde list. > > > Clay - what is the email address for the > 1) bugs.kde.org as well the > 2) kdepim mailing list > ? You are you serious? Clay > Thanks. > > == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & > Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From errol at tzora.co.il Mon Sep 6 04:57:26 2010 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 07:57:26 +0300 Subject: universal home partition?? In-Reply-To: References: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4C8474B6.8060909@tzora.co.il> On 09/05/2010 02:29 PM, claydoh at claydoh.com wrote: >> I have a separate partition for /home. I only use a KDE desktop, and >> have exclusively used Kubuntu. After installing 10.04 I had several >> problems with Kubuntu as spoken about in the "impressions of Lucid" >> thread. I now want to try other distros that use KDE. Is there a way of >> keeping my same home partition for other distros? I'm not worried about >> the layout of my home partition but wouldn't want to loose my documents, >> e-mail etc. I thought of maybe even having the other distro as a dual >> (triple) boot. I was thinking about trying Fedora or PClinuxos. >> Errol >> >> -- >> > You are perfectly fine having a common /home directory, but if you intend > to use a common *username* across different distros, you most likely will > have ownership problems as different distros may assign a different user > *id* number that correlates to the user name. This could render you unable > to login with that username in another OS. Also, sharing a common username > between distros will also mess with your desktop layout, wallpapers, etc. > depending on what themes, images and default settings each OS has > installed And some distros may also store local configs in a different > folder (.kde4 instead of .kde for example). I recommend using different > usernames. you can easily copy config files between the different OS's. > > As for accessing documents, you should still be able to browse to them > fine, but a separate folder or partition for these file might be a good > idea so you can save them back. > > Clay > > > > > Thanks all for the good advice, I realize now that what I should do is have a "common file area" rather than a common home partition. I also got similar help from the Kubuntu forum. See: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3111871.0 The only question I now have is how to have a common email program for all the distros. I use Thunderbird and of course want to only have one email repository. How do I do that? Errol From claydoh at claydoh.com Mon Sep 6 17:29:39 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 13:29:39 -0400 Subject: universal home partition?? In-Reply-To: <4C8474B6.8060909@tzora.co.il> References: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> <4C8474B6.8060909@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <201009061329.40307.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Monday, September 06, 2010 12:57:26 am Errol Sapir wrote: > On 09/05/2010 02:29 PM, claydoh at claydoh.com wrote: > >> I have a separate partition for /home. I only use a KDE desktop, and > >> have exclusively used Kubuntu. After installing 10.04 I had several > >> problems with Kubuntu as spoken about in the "impressions of Lucid" > >> thread. I now want to try other distros that use KDE. Is there a way of > >> keeping my same home partition for other distros? I'm not worried about > >> the layout of my home partition but wouldn't want to loose my documents, > >> e-mail etc. I thought of maybe even having the other distro as a dual > >> (triple) boot. I was thinking about trying Fedora or PClinuxos. > >> Errol > >> > >> -- > > > > You are perfectly fine having a common /home directory, but if you intend > > to use a common *username* across different distros, you most likely will > > have ownership problems as different distros may assign a different user > > *id* number that correlates to the user name. This could render you > > unable to login with that username in another OS. Also, sharing a common > > username between distros will also mess with your desktop layout, > > wallpapers, etc. depending on what themes, images and default settings > > each OS has installed And some distros may also store local configs in a > > different folder (.kde4 instead of .kde for example). I recommend using > > different usernames. you can easily copy config files between the > > different OS's. > > > > As for accessing documents, you should still be able to browse to them > > fine, but a separate folder or partition for these file might be a good > > idea so you can save them back. > > > > Clay > > Thanks all for the good advice, I realize now that what I should do is > have a "common file area" rather than a common home partition. I also > got similar help from the Kubuntu forum. See: > http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3111871.0 > > The only question I now have is how to have a common email program for > all the distros. I use Thunderbird and of course want to only have one > email repository. How do I do that? > Errol I think you can tell tbird to open a profile located somewhere outside the default location, but someone with it installed might know better clay From samorris at netspace.net.au Mon Sep 6 20:57:43 2010 From: samorris at netspace.net.au (Steve Morris) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 06:57:43 +1000 Subject: universal home partition?? In-Reply-To: <4C8474B6.8060909@tzora.co.il> References: <4C827F55.60300@tzora.co.il> <4C8474B6.8060909@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4C8555C7.9030307@netspace.net.au> On 06/09/10 14:57, Errol Sapir wrote: > On 09/05/2010 02:29 PM, claydoh at claydoh.com wrote: > >>> I have a separate partition for /home. I only use a KDE desktop, and >>> have exclusively used Kubuntu. After installing 10.04 I had several >>> problems with Kubuntu as spoken about in the "impressions of Lucid" >>> thread. I now want to try other distros that use KDE. Is there a way of >>> keeping my same home partition for other distros? I'm not worried about >>> the layout of my home partition but wouldn't want to loose my documents, >>> e-mail etc. I thought of maybe even having the other distro as a dual >>> (triple) boot. I was thinking about trying Fedora or PClinuxos. >>> Errol >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >> You are perfectly fine having a common /home directory, but if you intend >> to use a common *username* across different distros, you most likely will >> have ownership problems as different distros may assign a different user >> *id* number that correlates to the user name. This could render you unable >> to login with that username in another OS. Also, sharing a common username >> between distros will also mess with your desktop layout, wallpapers, etc. >> depending on what themes, images and default settings each OS has >> installed And some distros may also store local configs in a different >> folder (.kde4 instead of .kde for example). I recommend using different >> usernames. you can easily copy config files between the different OS's. >> >> As for accessing documents, you should still be able to browse to them >> fine, but a separate folder or partition for these file might be a good >> idea so you can save them back. >> >> Clay >> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks all for the good advice, I realize now that what I should do is > have a "common file area" rather than a common home partition. I also > got similar help from the Kubuntu forum. See: > http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3111871.0 > > The only question I now have is how to have a common email program for > all the distros. I use Thunderbird and of course want to only have one > email repository. How do I do that? > Errol > > Under account settings you have definition for local folders and your isps mail interface. In local folders you have to specify the full path to the directory where the local folders are and, under server settings for your mail account you specify the full path to the directory containing the relevant folders for that mail account. In my case the lowest level directory for the mail account is the mail accounts pop address, which is how thunderbird can easily distinguish between folders for different mail accounts (I have an account provided by my isp and I also have a google mail account). By default these paths point to sub-directories of ~/.thunderbird, but via the above mentioned settings you can specify any path you like. regards, Steve -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Ideally with an external IMAP server, but unless your ISP offers that probably not an option. -- Lindsay http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home From helder.earth at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 00:28:43 2010 From: helder.earth at gmail.com (Helder Terra) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:28:43 -0300 Subject: Broken dependencies Message-ID: <4C85873B.5030309@gmail.com> Since KDEuBlog stopped authenticating, I've been trying to find a new, good twitter client for my desktop. So, in the search for this, I've searched the web, installed and uninstalled a few (didn't like most of them, by the way) but, the last time I removed one of these programs (I guess it was GTwitter), I got an error message. It said: "There are broken dependencies on your system. Please use an advanced package manager e. g. Synaptic or aptitude to resolve this situation." Don't I have a software manager already? Since that've happened, I can't update or install anything without getting that same message. If anyone could help me solve this, I appreciate it. Thaks, Helder Terra -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue Sep 7 00:53:26 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh at claydoh.com) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:53:26 -0400 Subject: Broken dependencies In-Reply-To: <4C85873B.5030309@gmail.com> References: <4C85873B.5030309@gmail.com> Message-ID: > Since KDEuBlog stopped authenticating, I've been trying to find a new, > good twitter client for my desktop. So, in the search for this, I've > searched the web, installed and uninstalled a few (didn't like most of > them, by the way) but, the last time I removed one of these programs (I > guess it was GTwitter), I got an error message. > > It said: "There are broken dependencies on your system. Please use an > advanced package manager e. g. Synaptic or aptitude to resolve this > situation." Don't I have a software manager already? > > Since that've happened, I can't update or install anything without > getting that same message. If anyone could help me solve this, I > appreciate it. > > Thaks, > > Helder Terra > -- Did you install all the packages via the package manager, or did you download random deb files? This could cause a breakage if you did so. Any recent ppa additions would be good to list in case one of these is the culprit. You will need to try installing the program from the command-line to see the full error message: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade this will make sure your package list is up to date Then try to fix the problem using this: sudo apt-get -f install It should also tell at some point you what package is broken. You can paste the error message here and we can see what needs to be done next. the 'apt-get -f install' might fix the problem for you, but if not you will still have good messages to post here and we can take it from there (and have you install a better package manager like synaptic or Muon :)) clay From helder.earth at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 01:08:18 2010 From: helder.earth at gmail.com (Helder Terra) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:08:18 -0300 Subject: Broken dependencies In-Reply-To: References: <4C85873B.5030309@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C859082.1000807@gmail.com> Thanks, Clay, I've installed a few (maybe trhee or so) twitter clients through package manager. At that point, I could install it, test it and, if I didn't liket, remove it. I've never downloaded a .deb package for it. The problem is, once I tried to unistall the lastest (if I'm not mistaken, it was GTwitter) my package manager said it couldn't remove some of the dependencies, for they were broken. And so I got that error message for the first time. Now, I'm running Aptitude and it listed to me what I tink are two broken packages: libwebkit-1.0-2 libwebkit-1.0-common But it seems I can't remove it using aptitude as well (I use the command to remove it and nothing happens). Kinda frustrating. Em 06-09-2010 21:53, claydoh at claydoh.com escreveu: >> Since KDEuBlog stopped authenticating, I've been trying to find a new, >> good twitter client for my desktop. So, in the search for this, I've >> searched the web, installed and uninstalled a few (didn't like most of >> them, by the way) but, the last time I removed one of these programs (I >> guess it was GTwitter), I got an error message. >> >> It said: "There are broken dependencies on your system. Please use an >> advanced package manager e. g. Synaptic or aptitude to resolve this >> situation." Don't I have a software manager already? >> >> Since that've happened, I can't update or install anything without >> getting that same message. If anyone could help me solve this, I >> appreciate it. >> >> Thaks, >> >> Helder Terra >> -- >> > > Did you install all the packages via the package manager, or did you > download random deb files? This could cause a breakage if you did so. > > Any recent ppa additions would be good to list in case one of these is the > culprit. > > You will need to try installing the program from the command-line to see > the full error message: > > sudo apt-get update > and then > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > this will make sure your package list is up to date > Then try to fix the problem using this: > sudo apt-get -f install > > It should also tell at some point you what package is broken. You can > paste the error message here and we can see what needs to be done next. > the 'apt-get -f install' might fix the problem for you, but if not you > will still have good messages to post here and we can take it from there > > (and have you install a better package manager like synaptic or Muon :)) > > > clay > > > > > > > > > -- Helder Terra R16 ARTCOMM - Multiagência MSN | pensadorlouco at gmail.com CEL | 47 8468 3038 From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue Sep 7 01:26:23 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh at claydoh.com) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 21:26:23 -0400 Subject: Broken dependencies In-Reply-To: <4C859082.1000807@gmail.com> References: <4C85873B.5030309@gmail.com> <4C859082.1000807@gmail.com> Message-ID: > Thanks, Clay, > > I've installed a few (maybe trhee or so) twitter clients through package > manager. At that point, I could install it, test it and, if I didn't > liket, remove it. I've never downloaded a .deb package for it. > > The problem is, once I tried to unistall the lastest (if I'm not > mistaken, it was GTwitter) my package manager said it couldn't remove > some of the dependencies, for they were broken. And so I got that error > message for the first time. > > Now, I'm running Aptitude and it listed to me what I tink are two broken > packages: > > libwebkit-1.0-2 > libwebkit-1.0-common > > But it seems I can't remove it using aptitude as well (I use the command > to remove it and nothing happens). > > Kinda frustrating. > Try running the apt commands I listed, Ubuntu's package system is set up dependency-wise to favor apt, and it will get us better and more clear info on what is happening in it's messages. Clay From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Tue Sep 7 08:39:16 2010 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:39:16 +0100 Subject: universal home partition?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C85FA34.2090106@btinternet.com> On 07/09/10 01:53, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: >> > The only question I now have is how to have a common email program for >> > all the distros. I use Thunderbird and of course want to only have one >> > email repository. How do I do that? >> > Errol >> > I think you can tell tbird to open a profile located somewhere outside the > default location, but someone with it installed might know better > > > clay > > You're right Clay, but some time ago I did it the following way bcause I kept getting confused as to which distro I was currently working in. determine which you want to be the "master distro" for thunderbird then, in slave 1 mv /home/"user"/.thunderbird /home/"user"/.thunderbird.orig(say) in "master distro" ln -s /home/"user"/.thunderbird "slave 1" /home/"user"/.thunderbird and repeat for slave 2, 3, etc distros The above doesn't look too clear even to me, my old eyes miss spaces in these days of variable width fonts, but what you're doing is soft-linking all the slave distro .thunderbirds to the master .thunderbird keeping the original .thunderbirds just in case. you'll have to substitute the correct paths to the various home directories and the matching users. And I think you may have to do some 'chmod'ing so that the various thunderbirds can r/w to the master distro .thunderbird. My memory is a bit vague but I think I had to make sure the thunderbird versions were compatible on each distros. I did similar for firefox as well but it won't be necessary now that there is xmarks to use. brian From bill.footcow at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 09:53:05 2010 From: bill.footcow at gmail.com (=?utf-8?q?Herv=C3=A9_Piedvache?=) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 11:53:05 +0200 Subject: Kmail, imap and Google inbox changing always Message-ID: <201009071153.05319.bill.footcow@gmail.com> Hi, I have a nasty problem with Kmail and the IMAP of Google. Most of the time in my inbox I get the list of the messsage moving by itself ... message appear then disapear ... and/or I get a list of message but with may be 5 to 10 missing (most recents ones) and/or (yes different cases) all the messages appear in double ... If I'm synchronise the inbox after 2 or free times it's running again, and most of the time a restart of Kmail solve it but for few minutes ... very boring ! Any idea to solve this ? I'm using KMail 1.13.2 on Lucid. Regards and thanks for the help, -- Hervé From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 11:32:43 2010 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (Isak =?iso-8859-1?q?Enstr=F6m?=) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:32:43 +0200 Subject: Kmail, imap and Google inbox changing always In-Reply-To: <201009071153.05319.bill.footcow@gmail.com> References: <201009071153.05319.bill.footcow@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201009071332.43512.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> On Tuesday 07 September 2010 11.53.05 Hervé Piedvache wrote: > Hi, > > I have a nasty problem with Kmail and the IMAP of Google. > > Most of the time in my inbox I get the list of the messsage moving by > itself ... message appear then disapear ... and/or I get a list of message > but with may be 5 to 10 missing (most recents ones) and/or (yes different > cases) all the messages appear in double ... > If I'm synchronise the inbox after 2 or free times it's running again, and > most of the time a restart of Kmail solve it but for few minutes ... very > boring ! > > Any idea to solve this ? > > I'm using KMail 1.13.2 on Lucid. > > Regards and thanks for the help, I've seen the same thing happening here (KMail 1.13.2, Lucid), but I can't remember what I did to stop it from happening. Perhaps a change in Sorting/Aggregation order in the view? Have you connected to Gmail with another mail client just before connecting with KMail by the way? I'm not really sure but I think I got that problem after using Thunderbird minutes before using KMail. -- // Isak From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 7 11:38:15 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 07:38:15 -0400 Subject: ssh logins on 10.04 Message-ID: <201009070738.16092.gheskett@wdtv.com> Greetings; I just installed 10.04 on my milling machine and it seems bound and determined to keep me from configuring it for file sharing and for ssh logins. From here: [root at coyote ~]# ssh -l gene shop ssh: connect to host shop port 22: Connection refused gene is a valid (and only) user on that machine. What do I need to enable or reconfigure to enable that? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Q: What happens when four WASPs find themselves in the same room? A: A dinner party. From dthacker at bluestrain.net Tue Sep 7 11:44:53 2010 From: dthacker at bluestrain.net (Dave Thacker) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 06:44:53 -0500 Subject: ssh logins on 10.04 In-Reply-To: <201009070738.16092.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009070738.16092.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201009070644.53408.dthacker@bluestrain.net> On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 06:38:15 am gene heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > I just installed 10.04 on my milling machine and it seems bound and > determined to keep me from configuring it for file sharing and for ssh > logins. From here: > > [root at coyote ~]# ssh -l gene shop > ssh: connect to host shop port 22: Connection refused > > gene is a valid (and only) user on that machine. > > What do I need to enable or reconfigure to enable that? > > Thanks. Is the firewall enabled? sudo ufw status Dave up From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Sep 7 12:38:08 2010 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 08:38:08 -0400 Subject: ssh logins on 10.04 In-Reply-To: <201009070738.16092.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009070738.16092.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201009070838.08947.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Tuesday, September 07, 2010, gene heskett wrote: > gene is a valid (and only) user on that machine. > > What do I need to enable or reconfigure to enable that? I assume you installed the ssh server - sshd ?? From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 7 13:38:04 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:38:04 -0400 Subject: ssh logins on 10.04 In-Reply-To: <201009070644.53408.dthacker@bluestrain.net> References: <201009070738.16092.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009070644.53408.dthacker@bluestrain.net> Message-ID: <201009070938.04550.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 09:37:02 am Dave Thacker did opine: > On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 06:38:15 am gene heskett wrote: > > Greetings; > > > > I just installed 10.04 on my milling machine and it seems bound and > > determined to keep me from configuring it for file sharing and for ssh > > logins. From here: > > > > [root at coyote ~]# ssh -l gene shop > > ssh: connect to host shop port 22: Connection refused > > > > gene is a valid (and only) user on that machine. > > > > What do I need to enable or reconfigure to enable that? > > > > Thanks. > > Is the firewall enabled? > sudo ufw status > inactive, so that isn't it. Next? > Dave > > up Thanks Dave -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Brook's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later. From rrumberger at web.de Tue Sep 7 13:51:47 2010 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:51:47 +0200 Subject: ssh logins on 10.04 In-Reply-To: <201009070938.04550.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009070738.16092.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009070644.53408.dthacker@bluestrain.net> <201009070938.04550.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201009071551.50286.rrumberger@web.de> On Tuesday 07 September 2010, gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 09:37:02 am Dave Thacker did opine: > > On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 06:38:15 am gene heskett wrote: > > > Greetings; > > > > > > I just installed 10.04 on my milling machine and it seems > > > bound and determined to keep me from configuring it for file > > > sharing and for ssh logins. From here: > > > > > > [root at coyote ~]# ssh -l gene shop > > > ssh: connect to host shop port 22: Connection refused > > > > > > gene is a valid (and only) user on that machine. > > > > > > What do I need to enable or reconfigure to enable that? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > Is the firewall enabled? > > sudo ufw status > > inactive, so that isn't it. Next? > > > Dave > > Thanks Dave Well, either your network connection isn't working or your sshd isn't running or it isn't listening on that port/network interface. One way of making sure your sshd is working properly is trying "ssh 127.0.0.1" while physically pn the machine you're trying to access. --Reinhold From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 7 14:12:33 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:12:33 -0400 Subject: ssh logins on 10.04 In-Reply-To: <201009070838.08947.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201009070738.16092.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009070838.08947.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201009071012.33871.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 09:38:30 am Bruce Marshall did opine: > On Tuesday, September 07, 2010, gene heskett wrote: > > gene is a valid (and only) user on that machine. > > > > What do I need to enable or reconfigure to enable that? > > I assume you installed the ssh server - sshd ?? It is not, at least by that name, in /etc/init. I'll go check what synaptic says, brb. Twasn't, now is & started by hand. I'm logged in, thank you very much. This 10.04 system TBT, is awful laggy, even from its own keyboard. I think the next item to install is htop & figure out whats hogging the cpu. 6.06 never suffered from this. Humm, htop shows nothing. The lags is as if the multi-tasking context switch is 2 seconds or so. And htop says nothing is hogging the system, but it is 12 megs into swap sitting overnight. 6.06 was never into swap. Again, thanks Bruce. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Brook's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later. From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 7 14:13:41 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:13:41 -0400 Subject: ssh logins on 10.04 In-Reply-To: <201009071551.50286.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201009070738.16092.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009070938.04550.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009071551.50286.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201009071013.41729.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:12:58 am Reinhold Rumberger did opine: > On Tuesday 07 September 2010, gene heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 09:37:02 am Dave Thacker did opine: > > > On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 06:38:15 am gene heskett wrote: > > > > Greetings; > > > > > > > > I just installed 10.04 on my milling machine and it seems > > > > bound and determined to keep me from configuring it for file > > > > sharing and for ssh logins. From here: > > > > > > > > [root at coyote ~]# ssh -l gene shop > > > > ssh: connect to host shop port 22: Connection refused > > > > > > > > gene is a valid (and only) user on that machine. > > > > > > > > What do I need to enable or reconfigure to enable that? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Is the firewall enabled? > > > sudo ufw status > > > > inactive, so that isn't it. Next? > > > > > Dave > > > > Thanks Dave > > Well, either your network connection isn't working or your sshd isn't > running or it isn't listening on that port/network interface. > > One way of making sure your sshd is working properly is trying > "ssh 127.0.0.1" while physically pn the machine you're trying to > access. > > --Reinhold It turns out sshd wasn't installed. The perils of a cd installation. ;-) Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Confession is good for the soul, but bad for the career. From bill.footcow at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 14:28:24 2010 From: bill.footcow at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Herv=E9_Piedvache?=) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:28:24 +0200 Subject: Kmail, imap and Google inbox changing always In-Reply-To: <201009071332.43512.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> References: <201009071153.05319.bill.footcow@gmail.com> <201009071332.43512.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201009071628.24485.bill.footcow@gmail.com> Le mardi 07 septembre 2010, Isak Enström a écrit : > On Tuesday 07 September 2010 11.53.05 Hervé Piedvache wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a nasty problem with Kmail and the IMAP of Google. > > > > Most of the time in my inbox I get the list of the messsage moving by > > itself ... message appear then disapear ... and/or I get a list of > > message but with may be 5 to 10 missing (most recents ones) and/or (yes > > different cases) all the messages appear in double ... > > If I'm synchronise the inbox after 2 or free times it's running again, > > and most of the time a restart of Kmail solve it but for few minutes ... > > very boring ! > > > > Any idea to solve this ? > > > > I'm using KMail 1.13.2 on Lucid. > > > > Regards and thanks for the help, > > I've seen the same thing happening here (KMail 1.13.2, Lucid), but I can't > remember what I did to stop it from happening. Perhaps a change in > Sorting/Aggregation order in the view? hum ... I'm using the default value of Kmail ... message are sorted by date and not aggregated ... > Have you connected to Gmail with another mail client just before connecting > with KMail by the way? I'm not really sure but I think I got that problem > after using Thunderbird minutes before using KMail. No I'm using only Kmail ... and nothing else is connected to Gmail on this PC. Regards, -- Hervé From rrumberger at web.de Tue Sep 7 14:40:25 2010 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:40:25 +0200 Subject: Laggy 10.04 (Was: Re: ssh logins on 10.04) In-Reply-To: <201009071012.33871.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009070738.16092.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009070838.08947.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201009071012.33871.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201009071640.26751.rrumberger@web.de> On Tuesday 07 September 2010, gene heskett wrote: > This 10.04 system TBT, is awful laggy, even from its own keyboard. > I think the next item to install is htop & figure out whats > hogging the cpu. 6.06 never suffered from this. Humm, htop shows > nothing. The lags is as if the multi-tasking context switch is 2 > seconds or so. And htop says nothing is hogging the system, but > it is 12 megs into swap sitting overnight. 6.06 was never into > swap. Apart from the obvious (getting a list of running processes and looking for anything superfluous): is kdm running? Also, you should note that since 10.04 uses upstart, you're going to have to edit the files in /etc/init (no, not /etc/init.d) by hand to stop the services from starting every boot. Just to make things more fun, there are still quite a few apps that use the old Sys-V init style. You might also want to check whether /tmp is on the disk or using some RAM fs. Having it in RAM works quite well for desktop machines that only run a day or so. On a server, it will tend to fill up force the use of swap. BTW, if you find any apps that turn out to be major resource hogs, feel free to post them here, as I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one glad for a little pointer (I'll likely do my first proper install since 8.04 in a few months and would be glad for a list of things to watch out for). --Reinhold From helder.earth at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 15:13:47 2010 From: helder.earth at gmail.com (Helder Terra) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:13:47 -0300 Subject: Broken dependencies In-Reply-To: References: <4C85873B.5030309@gmail.com> <4C859082.1000807@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C8656AB.6030303@gmail.com> After a few frustrated tries at aptitude, the manager simply changed its mind and let me get access to all broken dependencies. There were about 30 of'em. So I used the "resolve" tool and they were all removed. After that, all went back to normal. Thank you all very much for the help. Helder Terra Em 06-09-2010 22:26, claydoh at claydoh.com escreveu: >> > > Try running the apt commands I listed, Ubuntu's package system is set up > dependency-wise to favor apt, and it will get us better and more clear > info on what is happening in it's messages. > > Clay > > > > > > > From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 7 15:59:12 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 11:59:12 -0400 Subject: Laggy 10.04 (Was: Re: ssh logins on 10.04) In-Reply-To: <201009071640.26751.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201009070738.16092.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009071012.33871.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009071640.26751.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201009071159.12830.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:31:50 am Reinhold Rumberger did opine: > On Tuesday 07 September 2010, gene heskett wrote: > > This 10.04 system TBT, is awful laggy, even from its own keyboard. > > > > I think the next item to install is htop & figure out whats > > > > hogging the cpu. 6.06 never suffered from this. Humm, htop shows > > nothing. The lags is as if the multi-tasking context switch is 2 > > seconds or so. And htop says nothing is hogging the system, but > > it is 12 megs into swap sitting overnight. 6.06 was never into > > swap. > > Apart from the obvious (getting a list of running processes and > looking for anything superfluous): is kdm running? > It shouldn't be the default is gnome with the LTS version. > Also, you should note that since 10.04 uses upstart, you're going to > have to edit the files in /etc/init (no, not /etc/init.d) by hand to > stop the services from starting every boot. Wasn't aware of that, thanks. > Just to make things more > fun, there are still quite a few apps that use the old Sys-V init > style. > Can we look and see something that will define which is which? > You might also want to check whether /tmp is on the disk or using > some RAM fs. Fresh install, sb on /, looks like it is. I did a swapoff -a, then a swapon -a, that that helped I believe. > Having it in RAM works quite well for desktop machines > that only run a day or so. On a server, it will tend to fill up force > the use of swap. > > BTW, if you find any apps that turn out to be major resource hogs, > feel free to post them here, as I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one > glad for a little pointer (I'll likely do my first proper install > since 8.04 in a few months and would be glad for a list of things to > watch out for). > > --Reinhold The next problem goes back to the EMC list, Its running 2.6.32-122-rtai But the rtapi module cannot be found. so all of emc is out of commission. Thanks Reinhold, now I'm back to swearing at a few gallons of Olympic Wood protector, trying to get it to jump out of the can, into an HVLP sprayer and thence onto a large quantity of native poplar I stacked up to look like a shadowbox style privacy fence after a 112mph wind took ours into the next drainage on June 24th. Temps not to bad when I started about 9ish, but at noon the temps are looking to exceed the 85F they predicted for today. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) His honour rooted in dishonour stood, And faith unfaithful kept him falsely true. -Alfred Lord Tennyson From rrumberger at web.de Tue Sep 7 16:00:34 2010 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:00:34 +0200 Subject: Kmail, imap and Google inbox changing always In-Reply-To: <201009071628.24485.bill.footcow@gmail.com> References: <201009071153.05319.bill.footcow@gmail.com> <201009071332.43512.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> <201009071628.24485.bill.footcow@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201009071800.38421.rrumberger@web.de> On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Hervé Piedvache wrote: > Le mardi 07 septembre 2010, Isak Enström a écrit : > > On Tuesday 07 September 2010 11.53.05 Hervé Piedvache wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a nasty problem with Kmail and the IMAP of Google. > > > > > > Most of the time in my inbox I get the list of the messsage > > > moving by itself ... message appear then disapear ... and/or > > > I get a list of message but with may be 5 to 10 missing (most > > > recents ones) and/or (yes different cases) all the messages > > > appear in double ... If I'm synchronise the inbox after 2 or > > > free times it's running again, and most of the time a restart > > > of Kmail solve it but for few minutes ... very boring ! > > > > > > Any idea to solve this ? > > > > > > I'm using KMail 1.13.2 on Lucid. > > > > > > Regards and thanks for the help, > > > > I've seen the same thing happening here (KMail 1.13.2, Lucid), > > but I can't remember what I did to stop it from happening. > > Perhaps a change in Sorting/Aggregation order in the view? > > hum ... I'm using the default value of Kmail ... message are > sorted by date and not aggregated ... > > > Have you connected to Gmail with another mail client just before > > connecting with KMail by the way? I'm not really sure but I > > think I got that problem after using Thunderbird minutes before > > using KMail. > > No I'm using only Kmail ... and nothing else is connected to Gmail > on this PC. You aren't by any chance doing anything in the "All Mail" folder? Google's IMAP does strange thing if you touch that. Otherwise, my KMail and gmail have always co-existed happily. --Reinhold From valtermura at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 18:18:04 2010 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 20:18:04 +0200 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, - info system - KUbuntu 10.04; jor kubuntu In-Reply-To: <1283725942.11084.1393486933@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201009051251.52890.valtermura@gmail.com> <1283725942.11084.1393486933@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201009072018.04565.valtermura@gmail.com> In data lunedì 6 settembre 2010 00:32:22, giovanni_re ha scritto: > On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 12:51:52 +0200, "Valter Mura" > > said: > > My Skype works correctly: In Mixer I chose Mic (enabled it), then Mic > > select > > (Mic 2 chosen, 1 didn't work). > > > > Using Phonon, as per info system. > > What do you mean by : > "as per info system"? That my system (Kubuntu 10.04.1) indicates that it is using Phonon and not any other sound system I checked it in System Settings/Multimedia Regards, -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From bill.footcow at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 21:26:55 2010 From: bill.footcow at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Herv=E9_Piedvache?=) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:26:55 +0200 Subject: Kmail, imap and Google inbox changing always Message-ID: <201009072326.56718.bill.footcow@gmail.com> Le mardi 07 septembre 2010, Reinhold Rumberger a écrit : > On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Hervé Piedvache wrote: > > Le mardi 07 septembre 2010, Isak Enström a écrit : > > > On Tuesday 07 September 2010 11.53.05 Hervé Piedvache wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I have a nasty problem with Kmail and the IMAP of Google. > > > > > > > > Most of the time in my inbox I get the list of the messsage > > > > moving by itself ... message appear then disapear ... and/or > > > > I get a list of message but with may be 5 to 10 missing (most > > > > recents ones) and/or (yes different cases) all the messages > > > > appear in double ... If I'm synchronise the inbox after 2 or > > > > free times it's running again, and most of the time a restart > > > > of Kmail solve it but for few minutes ... very boring ! > > > > > > > > Any idea to solve this ? > > > > > > > > I'm using KMail 1.13.2 on Lucid. > > > > > > > > Regards and thanks for the help, > > > > > > I've seen the same thing happening here (KMail 1.13.2, Lucid), > > > but I can't remember what I did to stop it from happening. > > > Perhaps a change in Sorting/Aggregation order in the view? > > > > hum ... I'm using the default value of Kmail ... message are > > sorted by date and not aggregated ... > > > > > Have you connected to Gmail with another mail client just before > > > connecting with KMail by the way? I'm not really sure but I > > > think I got that problem after using Thunderbird minutes before > > > using KMail. > > > > No I'm using only Kmail ... and nothing else is connected to Gmail > > on this PC. > > You aren't by any chance doing anything in the "All Mail" folder? > Google's IMAP does strange thing if you touch that. Otherwise, my > KMail and gmail have always co-existed happily. No I'm talking about my inbox ... and as you said that ... this not happend to my other folders ... this problem is only with my inbox. ;-( I really do not understand why and I have 4 PC with Kmail in different offices and they all do the same ... -- Hervé -- Hervé From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Sep 8 06:39:51 2010 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:39:51 +0200 Subject: karma kernel in lucid Message-ID: <4C872FB7.9040702@gmail.com> Anyone knows how to, if it is even possible, to install a Karmic kernel under Lucid? I have quite a few issues I suspect are kernel-related and putting a higher kernel gives me headaches with my wifi (tried that in other words). Regards Sinclair From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Wed Sep 8 07:33:05 2010 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:33:05 +1000 Subject: Marble - Anyone got routing working in Australia? Message-ID: <4c873c31.6185.b63ffb70.6fbb1444@blackpaw.dyndns.org> It doesn't seem to matter what start/dest I choose in Brisbane, all routes fail with "Position 'Start' not possible (No Street in 300.0 meter). Maverick Beta, KDE 4.5.1 -- Lindsay Mathieson http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home/ From claydoh at claydoh.com Wed Sep 8 12:05:42 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh at claydoh.com) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:05:42 -0400 Subject: karma kernel in lucid In-Reply-To: <4C872FB7.9040702@gmail.com> References: <4C872FB7.9040702@gmail.com> Message-ID: > Anyone knows how to, if it is even possible, to install a Karmic kernel > under Lucid? I have quite a few issues I suspect are kernel-related and > putting a higher kernel gives me headaches with my wifi (tried that in > other words). > > Regards > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > You should be able to just fine by finding the packages and manually installing them - you will get new menu entries in grub just like any kernel addition. However, care should be taken if you run proprietary video drivers, as these probably will break. It might even break free drivers depending on their particular xorg/kernel requirements. But you at least can boot back into other kernels if there are problems. Another option is to try so-called vanilla kernels, ones that have not been modified for Ubuntu use http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ You can try older, current and newer versions Clay From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Sep 8 12:18:32 2010 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:18:32 +0200 Subject: karma kernel in lucid In-Reply-To: References: <4C872FB7.9040702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C877F18.1050902@gmail.com> On 08/09/2010 14:05, claydoh at claydoh.com wrote: >> Anyone knows how to, if it is even possible, to install a Karmic kernel >> under Lucid? I have quite a few issues I suspect are kernel-related and >> putting a higher kernel gives me headaches with my wifi (tried that in >> other words). >> >> Regards >> Sinclair >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > You should be able to just fine by finding the packages and manually > installing them - you will get new menu entries in grub just like any > kernel addition. > > However, care should be taken if you run proprietary video drivers, as > these probably will break. It might even break free drivers depending on > their particular xorg/kernel requirements. But you at least can boot back > into other kernels if there are problems. > > Another option is to try so-called vanilla kernels, ones that have not > been modified for Ubuntu use > > http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ > You can try older, current and newer versions > As it happens sometimes I found the solution after googling around, in a ubuntuforums thread. You can find kernels that are mainline here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ I downloaded the following packages: linux-headers-2.6.31-02063113-generic_2.6.31-02063113_i386.deb linux-headers-2.6.31-02063113_2.6.31-02063113_all.deb linux-image-2.6.31-02063113-generic_2.6.31-02063113_i386.deb then did sudo dkgi -i *.deb from konsole in the download directory and rebooted chosing the new/old kernel experiences so far: faster boot once you are in KDE, no funny "hangs" like I get in Lucid kernel Hibernate working perfectly (only reboots in lucid kernel) suspend works better but still issues w usb etc powertop reports far less diskwrites and more solutions (like sata link management etc) and I will try battery times more when I have more time to play around an indicator for charging battery I never even saw before came to light.. All in all: better still damned flicker on vga-out though (works perfect in Win7 so not hardware fault). Note I can not go UP in kernel as drivers for wireless bail out every time I try (have tried 3 times now I think). I will stay on this until I can try Maverick beta or rc. To me Lucid seems to be "off target", at least for desktop and especially laptop. Regards, Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Sep 8 14:11:17 2010 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:11:17 +0200 Subject: karma kernel in lucid In-Reply-To: References: <4C872FB7.9040702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C879985.2070603@gmail.com> On 08/09/2010 14:05, claydoh at claydoh.com wrote: >> Anyone knows how to, if it is even possible, to install a Karmic kernel >> under Lucid? I have quite a few issues I suspect are kernel-related and >> putting a higher kernel gives me headaches with my wifi (tried that in >> other words). >> >> Regards >> Sinclair >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > You should be able to just fine by finding the packages and manually > installing them - you will get new menu entries in grub just like any > kernel addition. > > However, care should be taken if you run proprietary video drivers, as > these probably will break. It might even break free drivers depending on > their particular xorg/kernel requirements. But you at least can boot back > into other kernels if there are problems. > > Another option is to try so-called vanilla kernels, ones that have not > been modified for Ubuntu use > > http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ > You can try older, current and newer versions > As it happens sometimes I found the solution after googling around, in a ubuntuforums thread. You can find kernels that are mainline here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ I downloaded the following packages: linux-headers-2.6.31-02063113-generic_2.6.31-02063113_i386.deb linux-headers-2.6.31-02063113_2.6.31-02063113_all.deb linux-image-2.6.31-02063113-generic_2.6.31-02063113_i386.deb then did sudo dkgi -i *.deb from konsole in the download directory and rebooted chosing the new/old kernel experiences so far: faster boot once you are in KDE, no funny "hangs" like I get in Lucid kernel Hibernate working perfectly (only reboots in lucid kernel) suspend works better but still issues w usb etc powertop reports far less diskwrites and more solutions (like sata link management etc) and I will try battery times more when I have more time to play around an indicator for charging battery I never even saw before came to light.. All in all: better still damned flicker on vga-out though (works perfect in Win7 so not hardware fault). Note I can not go UP in kernel as drivers for wireless bail out every time I try (have tried 3 times now I think). I will stay on this until I can try Maverick beta or rc. To me Lucid seems to be "off target", at least for desktop and especially laptop. Regards, Sinclair From valtermura at gmail.com Wed Sep 8 14:13:07 2010 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:13:07 +0200 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem - mixer adjust no effect, KUbuntu 10.04 ; or kubuntu In-Reply-To: <1283725107.11205.1393485463@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201009051058.08250.rrumberger@web.de> <1283725107.11205.1393485463@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201009081613.08195.valtermura@gmail.com> In data lunedì 6 settembre 2010 00:18:27, giovanni_re ha scritto: > On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 10:58:07 +0200, "Reinhold Rumberger" > > said: > > You're still hopeful after his claim that Skype alters his voice's > > pitch? I'd normally suggest he uncheck that stupid skype feature that > > messes with your audio settings, but seeing as that can't possibly > > change pitch... > > Oh, well, guess I shouldn't give up hope just yet. > > I tried both checked & unchecked for > Skype > Main Menu > Options > Sound Devices > > "Allow skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels". > > It had no effect on the very low pitch problem. > > The low pitch modification is also hard to comprehend. I can tell the > rate is 1-1 time wise, because I know what I said. But, someone else > would hear very low speech sounds but the words would be hard to > comprehend. Have you tried to change the mic in "Mic select" and to activate the "Mic boost"? -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From valtermura at gmail.com Wed Sep 8 14:15:10 2010 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:15:10 +0200 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <201009081615.10591.valtermura@gmail.com> In data domenica 5 settembre 2010 12:04:17, Myriam Schweingruber ha scritto: > Hi all, > > On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 09:26, Basil Chupin wrote: > > On 05/09/2010 13:53, giovanni_re wrote: > >> KUbuntu 10.04 64 bit, on a desktop box. AMD PhenomII 4 core 64 bit > >> processor. > >> > >> Had installed pusle-audio several months ago, then removed it cause it > >> is broken, IIRC, in KU 10.04 > > ... > > > Sorry, but if you removed pulseaudio then what are you using for your > > audio? > > Basil, KDE uses Phonon and not Pulseaudio. Pulseaudio is just another > layer on top, and not really needed for KDE. The only reason to use > pulseaudio is if you want network sound, which phonon can't do right > now. I have Phonon and Alsa installed. -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Wed Sep 8 18:19:17 2010 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:19:17 +0100 Subject: plasma-desktop cpu usage Message-ID: <4C87D3A5.5060109@btinternet.com> I have been plagued for some time by odd hiccups in applications starting or failing to initialise properly, sometimes freezing for a short while before carry- ing on. Cups and xsane have both failed to find printers and scanners occasionally. I have to have more than one attempt to 'get mail' from my ISP. I get the raspberry from firefox every now and then and I have to retry, etc' it's annoying without being lethal. I've found that System Monitor>System Load is showing about 10% mean cpu usage, but with spikes up to 100% at exactly 10 second intervals lasting about 2 seconds. I have shut down as many apps as I can, but still it persists. What clears the load problem is to 'pause' plasma-desktop in System Monitor>Process Table, it completely gets rid of the spike! but, of course, I can't change plasmas or click on icons until I click 'continue' again. htop shows plasma-desktop at randomly highish cpu levels but never as high as 100%. System Monitor>Load Table shows memory at 0.86 GB with absolutely no change over time, with or without the spikes. My question is, do I have to live with this? or is there some way I can get a little closer to what's causing it? the fixed 10 second interval looks like a clue - but to what? Any clues or pointers would be much appreciated. brian From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Thu Sep 9 11:03:13 2010 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:03:13 +1000 Subject: Spam:***********, Re: Marble - Anyone got routing working in Australia? Message-ID: <201009092103.13572.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 06:30:40 am you wrote: > unfortunately OpenRouteService only has map data for Europe at the moment. > Any requests for routes outside Europe result in this error message. > > Marble will have support for worldwide routing in the next version (0.11 > shipping with KDE 4.6 in January 2011). Thanks, good to know. It would be handy if this was prominent on the wiki and had a more informative error message in the application otherwise you get very frustrated users left with a very bad impression. After all Marble and its routing is discussed and publicised fairly broadly and nowhere is it mentioned - "Currently only works in Europe". Any user who tries it outside of Europe is going to think its rubbish. -- Lindsay http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu Sep 9 11:24:10 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:24:10 +1000 Subject: Skype test loopback pitch low problem, KUbuntu 10.04 - packages ; jor KUbuntu In-Reply-To: <1283724767.9352.1393483971@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1283658803.10762.1393396785@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4C83463E.8080709@iinet.net.au> <1283724767.9352.1393483971@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4C88C3DA.1020207@iinet.net.au> On 06/09/2010 08:12, giovanni_re wrote: > On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:26:54 +1000, "Basil Chupin" > said: > > >> Sorry, but if you removed pulseaudio then what are you using for your >> audio? >> > > dpkg -l | grep pulse > rc libpulse-browse0 > 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14 PulseAudio client > libraries (zeroconf suppor > ii libpulse-mainloop-glib0 > 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14 PulseAudio client > libraries (glib support) > ii libpulse0 > 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14 PulseAudio client > libraries > rc pulseaudio > 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14 PulseAudio sound server > ii vlc-plugin-pulse 1.0.6-1ubuntu1.2 > PulseAudio plugin for VLC > > dpkg -l | grep alsa > ii alsa-base 1.0.22.1+dfsg-0ubuntu3 OK, alright already....So you have all these installed! But which one are you USING in your application(s)? BC -- Fact is that which enough people believe. Truth is determined by how fervently they believe it. From rrumberger at web.de Thu Sep 9 13:54:11 2010 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:54:11 +0200 Subject: Laggy 10.04 (Was: Re: ssh logins on 10.04) In-Reply-To: <201009071159.12830.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009070738.16092.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009071640.26751.rrumberger@web.de> <201009071159.12830.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201009091554.14247.rrumberger@web.de> Sorry, I kind of forgot about this due to being a little busy. On Tuesday 07 September 2010, gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:31:50 am Reinhold Rumberger did opine: > > On Tuesday 07 September 2010, gene heskett wrote: > > > This 10.04 system TBT, is awful laggy, even from its own > > > keyboard. > > > > > > I think the next item to install is htop & figure out whats > > > > > > hogging the cpu. 6.06 never suffered from this. Humm, htop > > > shows nothing. The lags is as if the multi-tasking context > > > switch is 2 seconds or so. And htop says nothing is hogging > > > the system, but it is 12 megs into swap sitting overnight. > > > 6.06 was never into swap. > > > > Apart from the obvious (getting a list of running processes and > > looking for anything superfluous): is kdm running? > > It shouldn't be the default is gnome with the LTS version. Well, gdm then. > > Also, you should note that since 10.04 uses upstart, you're > > going to have to edit the files in /etc/init (no, not > > /etc/init.d) by hand to stop the services from starting every > > boot. > > Wasn't aware of that, thanks. > > > Just to make things more > > fun, there are still quite a few apps that use the old Sys-V > > init style. > > Can we look and see something that will define which is which? You can look at /etc/init, the filenames should be a big hint. Also, in /etc/init.d the files that aren't links to /lib/init/upstart-job are still controlled by the normal Sys-V init mechanism. > > You might also want to check whether /tmp is on the disk or > > using some RAM fs. > > Fresh install, sb on /, looks like it is. I did a swapoff -a, > then a swapon -a, that that helped I believe. Perhaps adjusting the swappiness value could help, but seeing as I don't know enough about this, I won't recommend anything specific. --Reinhold From bhaskarsharma.n at gmail.com Fri Sep 10 09:40:40 2010 From: bhaskarsharma.n at gmail.com (BHASKAR SHARMA.N) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:10:40 +0530 Subject: is it Kubuntu or is it KDE? In-Reply-To: References: <201008292228.57548.fluca1978@infinito.it> <201008292336.41123.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: I manually installed nvidia-195.run pack obtained from their site for my geforce6100 nforce400..resolution changed to 320x240 from 800x600(optimum was 1024x768)! I cleaned up that drive.. On 8/30/10, BHASKAR SHARMA.N wrote: > I think Kde developers mostly involved only to improve the > visuals,don't bother about the consistency or stability of current > version.I'd once used kubuntu 9.10 64bit version. Was a great trouble, > good visuals and UI..but nothing was functioning well. So > decided,always to use gnome 32bit,which's seen the best in working.. > > On 8/30/10, Nils Kassube wrote: >> Luca Ferrari wrote: >>> the network applet is unable to connect me to >>> a not WPA2-PSK access point, my broadband modem is recognized, but >>> does not work, and in general the desktop is too much slow when >>> switching between applications. >> >> You could try the Gnome version of the network applet by installing the >> package network-manager-gnome and uninstall the packages network- >> manager-kde and plasma-widget-networkmanagement (whichever is >> installed). Then run the command >> >> nm-applet >> >> from ALT-F2. >> >>> Moreover, konqueror is freezing >>> sometimes and making the whole desktop locked for almost a minute. >> >> For me konqueror (used as file manager) freezes if there is a window >> with a NFS share open while there is heavy traffic on the (wireless) >> link to that share. Maybe it is a similar reason for you? >> >>> So far, I'm considering a concrete desktop switch, and the >>> application I will miss the more is KMail (in my opinion even >>> Evolution cannot compete). >> >> You can run any KDE application from other desktop managers. As you >> don't like Gnome (I don't like it either), I would suggest you try xfce, >> just install the package xubuntu-desktop. I played with it some time ago >> and it was quite nice but finally I stayed with KDE. >> >> >> Nils >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > > -- > > > > -BHASKAR SHARMA.N > -- -BHASKAR SHARMA.N From art.alexion at gmail.com Sun Sep 12 02:43:43 2010 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:43:43 -0400 Subject: is it Kubuntu or is it KDE? In-Reply-To: <201008291653.11596.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201008292228.57548.fluca1978@infinito.it> <201008291653.11596.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: Currently, Kmail runs even worse under Ubuntu/gnome. -- Art Alexion On Aug 29, 2010 4:54 PM, "Bruce Marshall" wrote: > On Sunday, August 29, 2010, Luca Ferrari wrote: >> So far, I'm considering a concrete desktop switch, and the application I >> will miss the more is KMail (in my opinion even Evolution cannot >> compete). > > Why would you not be able to use Kmail with Gnome. Should work in my > opinion. > > I use Kmail with XFCE. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Mon Sep 13 06:49:34 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:49:34 +1000 Subject: Lost all sound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C8DC97E.9010605@iinet.net.au> On 13/09/2010 16:11, uriah heep wrote: > after updates and installing some programs I have lost all sound. > nothing works cd's, headphones, speakers, etc. This is on lucid 10.4 > 64 bit. In the past it all worked. I am quite ignorant about these > things. Could someone assist me or at least point me to a url where I > could learn trouble shooting steps? The first thing to do is to see if the sound has been muted - look at the volume control for whichever audio system you are using (alsa or pulseaudio). BC -- Fact is that which enough people believe. Truth is determined by how fervently they believe it. From bqz69 at telia.com Mon Sep 13 12:29:40 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Lost all sound References: Message-ID: Install with synaptic: pavucontrol gnome-alsamixer From stan10x10 at gmail.com Mon Sep 13 20:56:48 2010 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:56:48 -0400 Subject: Lost all sound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 8:29 AM, user1 wrote: > Install with synaptic: > > pavucontrol > > gnome-alsamixer > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Sound was not muted then I installed the above programs and now it works Thanks Uriah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bqz69 at telia.com Tue Sep 14 07:04:11 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 07:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: When clicking on a link in dolphin it asks for "Open with:" Message-ID: I am using lucid and kde 4.4.5. When clicking on a link in dolphin it asks for "Open with:" and I answer "dolphin" - I also check "Remember application for this type of file". Next time I click on another link in dolphin same things happens ? From juergen.sauer at automatix.de Tue Sep 14 08:02:00 2010 From: juergen.sauer at automatix.de (Juergen Sauer) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:02:00 +0200 Subject: Akonadi total broken in Kubuntu 10.04.1 LTS Message-ID: <201009141002.01154.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> Moin, in current LTS - (!?stable?!) Release is Akonadi as Backend using Standard MySQL Server in Corporate Envirmonets unusable at all. This Szenario: 1. classic central Server (NIS+NFS), running Ubuntu LTS 10.04.1 2. couple of Kubuntu Desktops around, Classic Setup: User Auth via NIS, $HOME Filesystem served via NFS. Kmail and Akonadi are currently failing each 2nd login - loosing cmplete all data, for which the Akonadi is the DB Backend was responsible. Tracing the Problem showed me up, that akonadi for Standard Setups creates an own embedded MySQL InnoDB Database in $HOME/.local and is not able to use Locking or simular techniques to protect those Data against 2nd logins of the same user from an other workstation around. Starting kmail/kontact on an other Workstation destroys all Data off the Akonadi Backend DB. The Follow-UP Problem is, that none Kmail/Kontact Instance will start anymore on any workstation. This Problem hits our Support Lines like a gold rush. No Solution was offered till now, so we recommend not to use kdepim with akonadi in it, since it is critical broken. So, here my Question: Is it possible to use an remote central PostGresSQL Database instance ? We tried an akonadiserverrc like this http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/KDE/2010-03/msg00173.html But Akonadi tries sto start it's own PostGresSQL Database instance for it'S own instead - as expected - to use the offered and perfectly working DB Server on $SERVER. MySQL is not recomended because of the ownership of Oracle. We want only PostGreSQL! Is there a Timeline, in the nexrt future to fix those critical Problem in the Kubuntu LTS Repositories ? J. Sauer -- Jürgen Sauer - automatiX GmbH, +49-4209-4699, juergen.sauer at automatix.de Das Linux Systemhaus - Service - Support - Server - Lösungen Geschäftsführer (Managing Director): Jürgen Sauer, Gerichtstand: Amtsgericht Walsrode • HRB 120986 Ust-Id: DE191468481 • St.Nr.: 36/201/14198 From juergen.sauer at automatix.de Tue Sep 14 08:07:04 2010 From: juergen.sauer at automatix.de (Juergen Sauer) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:07:04 +0200 Subject: When clicking on a link in dolphin it asks for "Open with:" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201009141007.04354.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> Am Dienstag, 14. September 2010 schrieb user1: > I am using lucid and kde 4.4.5. > > When clicking on a link in dolphin it asks for "Open with:" and I answer > "dolphin" - I also check "Remember application for this type of file". > > Next time I click on another link in dolphin same things happens ? Right-click on the Object, Chose Proprieteries" (or Alt-Enter) and click on the Tool Icon, right of the Type: Line ... An Option Box regarding this Type is opening and you can chose and setup the actions, you want. Greetings from Norther rainy Germany Jojo -- Jürgen Sauer - automatiX GmbH, +49-4209-4699, juergen.sauer at automatix.de Das Linux Systemhaus - Service - Support - Server - Lösungen Geschäftsführer (Managing Director): Jürgen Sauer, Gerichtstand: Amtsgericht Walsrode • HRB 120986 Ust-Id: DE191468481 • St.Nr.: 36/201/14198 From bqz69 at telia.com Tue Sep 14 15:12:45 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: When adding an attachment in kmail it shows it as a screenshot of a directory Message-ID: I am using lucid and kde 4.4.5 When I add an attachment of a jpg image in kmail and set its properties to "Suggest automatic display" it does not show the image, and when I then try to open the jpg file it shows an older screenthot of a directory and call it: "It is a directory". I saw the same thing happen some time ago with another attachment from another person. I tried to make a jpg file from a screenshot with both shutter and scrot, but same thing happened. There seems to be some kind of mix up when i use this feature in kmail. From bqz69 at telia.com Tue Sep 14 15:43:24 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:43:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: When adding an attachment in kmail it shows it as a screenshot of a directory References: Message-ID: I tried to reinstall kmail, but same problem. When using thunderbird attachment works fine both ways When I open an attachment sent from thunderbird in kmail, same problem. From rjlapham at gmail.com Tue Sep 14 19:03:13 2010 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:03:13 -0400 Subject: When adding an attachment in kmail it shows it as a screenshot of a directory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201009141503.13782.rjlapham@gmail.com> On Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:12:45 am user1 wrote: > I am using lucid and kde 4.4.5 > > When I add an attachment of a jpg image in kmail and set its properties > to "Suggest automatic display" it does not show the image, and when I > then try to open the jpg file it shows an older screenthot of a directory > and call it: "It is a directory". Works OK here in kde 4.4.2. -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= Freeware: If it breaks you get to keep both pieces. From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue Sep 14 19:28:19 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:28:19 -0400 Subject: When adding an attachment in kmail it shows it as a screenshot of a directory In-Reply-To: <201009141503.13782.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <201009141503.13782.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201009141528.19654.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Tuesday, September 14, 2010 03:03:13 pm Jerry Lapham wrote: > On Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:12:45 am user1 wrote: > > I am using lucid and kde 4.4.5 > > > > When I add an attachment of a jpg image in kmail and set its properties > > to "Suggest automatic display" it does not show the image, and when I > > then try to open the jpg file it shows an older screenthot of a directory > > and call it: "It is a directory". > > Works OK here in kde 4.4.2. > > -Jerry Also works in Kmail 4.4.5 for me Clay From bqz69 at telia.com Tue Sep 14 20:05:30 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:05:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: When adding an attachment in kmail it shows it as a screenshot of a directory References: <201009141503.13782.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201009141528.19654.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: Strange, when I copy an attachment from kmail into a directory and then open it it works, but when I click on the attachment in kmail it shows a screenshot of same directory. From bqz69 at telia.com Wed Sep 15 09:18:05 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: When clicking on a link in dolphin it asks for "Open with:" References: <201009141007.04354.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> Message-ID: >> When clicking on a link in dolphin it asks for "Open with:" and I >> answer "dolphin" - I also check "Remember application for this type of >> file". > Right-click on the Object, Chose Proprieteries" (or Alt-Enter) and click > on the Tool Icon, right of the Type: Line ... > > An Option Box regarding this Type is opening and you can chose and setup > the actions, you want. > 36/201/14198 Does not help ? From john_re at fastmail.us Thu Sep 16 10:43:02 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:43:02 -0700 Subject: Is GNOME System monitor _way Less_ capable than KDE syst mon? ; jor KUbuntu Message-ID: <1284633782.24376.1395306055@webmail.messagingengine.com> I have essentially for the first time used the GNOME Ubuntu interface (having used KDE for 10 years). I make substantial use of the KDE system monitor. I expected the G sysmon would be similar, but it seems to have only about 10% of the capability of the K version. So, I installed it on my KDE system, & sure enough, there seems to be no way to do the additions of more ssytem parameters that i can monitor in the K version. To people familiar with both the K & G sysmonitors: Is the G version _way_ less capable than the K version? Or, is there some non-obvious way to get it to display more monitoring parameters? ===== Ex: KDE system monitor can show more than 3 rows (ex, 12), (in tab properties), can show multiple tabs, can show many (30-100?) system variables {system, cpu load, partition, disk, hardware, logfiles, memory, network}, etc. Thanks == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From faptagon at gmail.com Fri Sep 17 06:49:19 2010 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:49:19 -0700 Subject: 1.04.1 LTS status Message-ID: Howdy; I'm wondering about 1.04.1 LTS's status on a few things. 1st, what does, "LTS", stand for? 2nd, I've been hearing that installing gnome to get a working pulse audio, and then installing KUbuntu sorta works but can cause other problems. Anything to that? 3rd, The few times I've tried to install gnome, it boots up, but then acts so slow that I get the impression that it's trying to run every single program it's got, all at the same time. If you put the mouse pointer on a menu item, you might get a menu list if you hold the mouse button down for an hour or two. Anyone know what the deal is with that? Thanks in advance. Bill From msh at farsight-data.com Fri Sep 17 07:44:11 2010 From: msh at farsight-data.com (FarSight Data Systems) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:44:11 -0400 Subject: 1.04.1 LTS status In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201009170344.12405.msh@farsight-data.com> On Friday 17 September 2010 02:49:19 am Bill vance wrote: > Howdy; > > I'm wondering about 1.04.1 LTS's status on a few things. > > 1st, what does, "LTS", stand for? > > 2nd, I've been hearing that installing gnome to get a working pulse > audio, and then installing > KUbuntu sorta works but can cause other problems. Anything to that? > > 3rd, The few times I've tried to install gnome, it boots up, but then > acts so slow that I get the > impression that it's trying to run every single program it's got, all > at the same time. If you put > the mouse pointer on a menu item, you might get a menu list if you > hold the mouse button > down for an hour or two. Anyone know what the deal is with that? > > Thanks in advance. > > Bill LTS stands for Long Term Support. This version of the distro gets, I think, 5 years support from Canonical. The versions without an LTS suffix only get 2 or 3 years. Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Sep 17 10:05:01 2010 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:05:01 +0200 Subject: Really weird mic problem in 10.04.1 Message-ID: <4C933D4D.5080700@gmail.com> This is Kubuntu 10.04 with KDE 4.4.5 on a Dell Vostro 3300 laptop For reasons of me messing up my system I had to make a clean install. Prior to that I had the internal microphone as well as the external mic-input working, used it in Skype now and then. Following the reinstall with x number of upgrades and all that internal mic is no longer working, neither is the mic-input using an external mic. I have not messed with alsa-base.conf, I have not done anything really. Alsactl -v reports version 1.0.22 in both cases (I still have the old as a liveboot and mic still works when I liveboot the old install) I can think of nothing that could prompt this behaviour. They are not muted in alsamixer or anything such obvious. So I ask if anyone on the list have some ideas? Kind regards, Sinclair From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Sep 17 12:29:49 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:29:49 -0500 Subject: Misskey Problem Message-ID: <4C935F3D.1080606@swbell.net> Somehow I managed to hit some weird key combination that has reversed the operation of the Caps Lock. I now have to have the caps turned on to type small letters and hit the shift key to type caps. Just the reverse of how it normally works. Any idea what I did and how to correct it? Last time it happened I had to reboot to correct it. -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington From schrod at biochem.mpg.de Fri Sep 17 13:13:05 2010 From: schrod at biochem.mpg.de (schrod at biochem.mpg.de) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:13:05 +0200 Subject: Problem with KPackageKit update Message-ID: <20100917151305.y7z24309sg84swoc@webmail.biochem.mpg.de> Dear all, I recently installed Kubuntu on my work computer, which sits behind a proxy server. I set the proxy settings in the system settings/network as well as in the .bashrc and it seems to work (ping in the terminal and web browsing via konqueror). However I have a severe problem. When I want to install new packages, KPackageKit does not find anything. I thus want to refresh my repositories. I go to settings --> edit software sourses and uncheck/recheck one of the repositories. When I close the window, it tells me I have to reload. I confirm and it starts downloading. The problem: it always stops at 25% (or sometimes 27% or 28%), independent of which repositories are checked!? What can I do? I tried to sudo apt-get update from the terminal, but it complains it can't connect to the server. However if i ping the server, I get a response. Thanks for any advice, as I am pretty unfamiliar with ubuntu/kubuntu. Nikolas From gilgib1 at verizon.net Fri Sep 17 13:16:45 2010 From: gilgib1 at verizon.net (Gil Gibbons) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:16:45 -0400 Subject: Problem with KPackageKit update In-Reply-To: <20100917151305.y7z24309sg84swoc@webmail.biochem.mpg.de> References: <20100917151305.y7z24309sg84swoc@webmail.biochem.mpg.de> Message-ID: <4C936A3D.8050400@verizon.net> On 09/17/2010 09:13 AM, schrod at biochem.mpg.de wrote: > Dear all, > > I recently installed Kubuntu on my work computer, which sits behind a > proxy server. I set the proxy settings in the system settings/network > as well as in the .bashrc and it seems to work (ping in the terminal > and web browsing via konqueror). > > However I have a severe problem. When I want to install new packages, > KPackageKit does not find anything. I thus want to refresh my > repositories. I go to settings --> edit software sourses and > uncheck/recheck one of the repositories. When I close the window, it > tells me I have to reload. I confirm and it starts downloading. > The problem: it always stops at 25% (or sometimes 27% or 28%), > independent of which repositories are checked!? > > What can I do? > > I tried to sudo apt-get update from the terminal, but it complains it > can't connect to the server. However if i ping the server, I get a > response. > > Thanks for any advice, as I am pretty unfamiliar with ubuntu/kubuntu. > > Nikolas > > > Kpackagekit is not that good install synaptic ( go to terminal and type "sudo apt-get install synaptic" without the quotes From claydoh at claydoh.com Fri Sep 17 13:56:10 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:56:10 -0400 Subject: Problem with KPackageKit update In-Reply-To: <4C936A3D.8050400@verizon.net> References: <20100917151305.y7z24309sg84swoc@webmail.biochem.mpg.de> <4C936A3D.8050400@verizon.net> Message-ID: <201009170956.10961.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Friday, September 17, 2010 09:16:45 am Gil Gibbons wrote: > On 09/17/2010 09:13 AM, schrod at biochem.mpg.de wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > I recently installed Kubuntu on my work computer, which sits behind a > > proxy server. I set the proxy settings in the system settings/network > > as well as in the .bashrc and it seems to work (ping in the terminal > > and web browsing via konqueror). > > > > However I have a severe problem. When I want to install new packages, > > KPackageKit does not find anything. I thus want to refresh my > > repositories. I go to settings --> edit software sourses and > > uncheck/recheck one of the repositories. When I close the window, it > > tells me I have to reload. I confirm and it starts downloading. > > The problem: it always stops at 25% (or sometimes 27% or 28%), > > independent of which repositories are checked!? > > > > What can I do? > > > > I tried to sudo apt-get update from the terminal, but it complains it > > can't connect to the server. However if i ping the server, I get a > > response. > > > > Thanks for any advice, as I am pretty unfamiliar with ubuntu/kubuntu. > > > > Nikolas > > Kpackagekit is not that good install synaptic ( go to terminal and type > "sudo apt-get install synaptic" > without the quotes You may have to tell apt about your proxy - it does not necessarily follow the desktop's settings. look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto *then* you can install synaptic :) Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://emacdogsports.com From schrod at biochem.mpg.de Fri Sep 17 14:19:26 2010 From: schrod at biochem.mpg.de (Nikolas Schrod) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:19:26 +0200 Subject: Problem with KPackageKit update In-Reply-To: <201009170956.10961.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <20100917151305.y7z24309sg84swoc@webmail.biochem.mpg.de> <4C936A3D.8050400@verizon.net> <201009170956.10961.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <201009171619.26557.schrod@biochem.mpg.de> On Friday, September 17, 2010 03:56:10 pm Clay Weber wrote: > On Friday, September 17, 2010 09:16:45 am Gil Gibbons wrote: > > On 09/17/2010 09:13 AM, schrod at biochem.mpg.de wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I recently installed Kubuntu on my work computer, which sits behind a > > > proxy server. I set the proxy settings in the system settings/network > > > as well as in the .bashrc and it seems to work (ping in the terminal > > > and web browsing via konqueror). > > > > > > However I have a severe problem. When I want to install new packages, > > > KPackageKit does not find anything. I thus want to refresh my > > > repositories. I go to settings --> edit software sourses and > > > uncheck/recheck one of the repositories. When I close the window, it > > > tells me I have to reload. I confirm and it starts downloading. > > > The problem: it always stops at 25% (or sometimes 27% or 28%), > > > independent of which repositories are checked!? > > > > > > What can I do? > > > > > > I tried to sudo apt-get update from the terminal, but it complains it > > > can't connect to the server. However if i ping the server, I get a > > > response. > > > > > > Thanks for any advice, as I am pretty unfamiliar with ubuntu/kubuntu. > > > > > > Nikolas > > > > Kpackagekit is not that good install synaptic ( go to terminal and type > > "sudo apt-get install synaptic" > > without the quotes > > You may have to tell apt about your proxy - it does not necessarily follow > the desktop's settings. > > look here: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto > *then* you can install synaptic :) > > > Clay Weber > http://kubuntuforums.net > http://emacdogsports.com I've set the proxy and an echo $http_proxy gives the rights proxy server. also I can ping the repository and receive a response. However, it still doesn't successfully connect.... Nikolas From wes.hardin at maxim-ic.com Fri Sep 17 14:28:10 2010 From: wes.hardin at maxim-ic.com (Wes Hardin) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:28:10 -0500 Subject: Misskey Problem In-Reply-To: <4C935F3D.1080606@swbell.net> References: <4C935F3D.1080606@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4C937AFA.6000208@maxim-ic.com> On 09/17/2010 07:29 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > Somehow I managed to hit some weird key combination that has reversed > the operation of the Caps Lock. I now have to have the caps turned on to > type small letters and hit the shift key to type caps. Just the reverse > of how it normally works. > > Any idea what I did and how to correct it? If this is in X, I recommend numlockx $ numlockx --help NumLockX 1.1 (C) 2000-2001 Lubos Lunak (C) 2001 Oswald Buddenhagen Usage : numlockx [on|off] on - turns NumLock on in X ( default ) off - turns NumLock off in X toggle - toggles the NumLock on and off in X I run into this more often than I like moving between VMs and my host. numlockx always fixes it right up for me. -- /* Wes Hardin */ UNIX System Administrator, IT Engineering Support Maxim Integrated Products: Innovation Delivered From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Sep 17 14:50:36 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:50:36 -0500 Subject: Misskey Problem In-Reply-To: <4C937AFA.6000208@maxim-ic.com> References: <4C935F3D.1080606@swbell.net> <4C937AFA.6000208@maxim-ic.com> Message-ID: <4C93803C.8010909@swbell.net> On 09/17/2010 09:28 AM, Wes Hardin wrote: > On 09/17/2010 07:29 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > >> Somehow I managed to hit some weird key combination that has reversed >> the operation of the Caps Lock. I now have to have the caps turned on to >> type small letters and hit the shift key to type caps. Just the reverse >> of how it normally works. >> >> Any idea what I did and how to correct it? >> > If this is in X, I recommend numlockx > > $ numlockx --help > NumLockX 1.1 > (C) 2000-2001 Lubos Lunak > (C) 2001 Oswald Buddenhagen > > Usage : numlockx [on|off] > on - turns NumLock on in X ( default ) > off - turns NumLock off in X > toggle - toggles the NumLock on and off in X > > I run into this more often than I like moving between VMs and my host. numlockx > always fixes it right up for me. > Numlock works like it's supposed to. -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Fri Sep 17 14:51:34 2010 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:51:34 -0400 Subject: Problem with KPackageKit update In-Reply-To: <201009171619.26557.schrod@biochem.mpg.de> References: <20100917151305.y7z24309sg84swoc@webmail.biochem.mpg.de> <201009170956.10961.claydoh@claydoh.com> <201009171619.26557.schrod@biochem.mpg.de> Message-ID: <201009171051.35069.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Friday, September 17, 2010 10:19:26 am Nikolas Schrod wrote: > On Friday, September 17, 2010 03:56:10 pm Clay Weber wrote: > > On Friday, September 17, 2010 09:16:45 am Gil Gibbons wrote: > > > On 09/17/2010 09:13 AM, schrod at biochem.mpg.de wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > I recently installed Kubuntu on my work computer, which sits behind a > > > > proxy server. I set the proxy settings in the system settings/network > > > > as well as in the .bashrc and it seems to work (ping in the terminal > > > > and web browsing via konqueror). > > > > > > > > However I have a severe problem. When I want to install new packages, > > > > KPackageKit does not find anything. I thus want to refresh my > > > > repositories. I go to settings --> edit software sourses and > > > > uncheck/recheck one of the repositories. When I close the window, it > > > > tells me I have to reload. I confirm and it starts downloading. > > > > The problem: it always stops at 25% (or sometimes 27% or 28%), > > > > independent of which repositories are checked!? . . . > > > > You may have to tell apt about your proxy - it does not necessarily follow > > the desktop's settings. > > > > look here: > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto > > *then* you can install synaptic :) . . . > > I've set the proxy and an echo $http_proxy gives the rights proxy server. also > I can ping the repository and receive a response. However, it still doesn't > successfully connect.... I have that same problem at work and have not always been able to get Kpackagekit to work. It is because of the type of proxy they use, windows only. It's hit or miss. I have had no problems with the command line though. The instructions above basically say to put the proxy line in two places, one for apt (kpackagekit) and the other for bash (konsole). What it does not say is where to put your username and password. That is the only way I found it possible to get through the proxy server. So instead of: http_proxy=http://yourproxyaddress:proxyport Try these two lines: http_proxy=http://username:password at yourproxyaddress:proxyport ftp_proxy=http://username:password at yourproxyaddress:proxyport I found no way to automatically update my new passwords so a manual edit is needed every time the password changes. I also have the problem where DNS doesn't work with linux on our internal network so I need to use the actual IP address instead of the name. If you have this problem just ping the server name and you will see the ip address. So the end of my ~/.bashrc file would have something like: export http_proxy=http://adacey:e at Gah*86v42 at 10.71.5.27:8080 export ftp_proxy=http://adacey:e at Gah*86v42 at 10.71.5.27:8080 Alan From wes.hardin at maxim-ic.com Fri Sep 17 15:15:54 2010 From: wes.hardin at maxim-ic.com (Wes Hardin) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:15:54 -0500 Subject: Misskey Problem In-Reply-To: <4C93803C.8010909@swbell.net> References: <4C935F3D.1080606@swbell.net> <4C937AFA.6000208@maxim-ic.com> <4C93803C.8010909@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4C93862A.2000902@maxim-ic.com> On 09/17/2010 09:50 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > On 09/17/2010 09:28 AM, Wes Hardin wrote: >> On 09/17/2010 07:29 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: >> >>> Somehow I managed to hit some weird key combination that has reversed >>> the operation of the Caps Lock. I now have to have the caps turned on to >>> type small letters and hit the shift key to type caps. Just the reverse >>> of how it normally works. >>> >>> Any idea what I did and how to correct it? >>> >> If this is in X, I recommend numlockx >> >> $ numlockx --help >> NumLockX 1.1 >> (C) 2000-2001 Lubos Lunak >> (C) 2001 Oswald Buddenhagen >> >> Usage : numlockx [on|off] >> on - turns NumLock on in X ( default ) >> off - turns NumLock off in X >> toggle - toggles the NumLock on and off in X >> >> I run into this more often than I like moving between VMs and my host. numlockx >> always fixes it right up for me. >> > > Numlock works like it's supposed to. Oops, didn't read carefully enough. Have you tried using a virtual keyboard to toggle it? I was able to get them switched and switched back using the caps lock key on kvkbd. Toggling caps on the virtual keyboard toggled the state as far as X was concerned but not the physical keyboard light. -- /* Wes Hardin */ UNIX System Administrator, IT Engineering Support Office: 972-371-6909 | Mobile: 972-342-5679 Skype: wes.hardin.maxim | Email: wes.hardin at maxim-ic.com Maxim Integrated Products: Innovation Delivered From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Sep 17 16:23:51 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:23:51 -0500 Subject: Misskey Problem In-Reply-To: <4C93862A.2000902@maxim-ic.com> References: <4C935F3D.1080606@swbell.net> <4C937AFA.6000208@maxim-ic.com> <4C93803C.8010909@swbell.net> <4C93862A.2000902@maxim-ic.com> Message-ID: <4C939617.4070508@swbell.net> On 09/17/2010 10:15 AM, Wes Hardin wrote: > On 09/17/2010 09:50 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > >> On 09/17/2010 09:28 AM, Wes Hardin wrote: >> >>> On 09/17/2010 07:29 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Somehow I managed to hit some weird key combination that has reversed >>>> the operation of the Caps Lock. I now have to have the caps turned on to >>>> type small letters and hit the shift key to type caps. Just the reverse >>>> of how it normally works. >>>> >>>> Any idea what I did and how to correct it? >>>> >>>> >>> If this is in X, I recommend numlockx >>> >>> $ numlockx --help >>> NumLockX 1.1 >>> (C) 2000-2001 Lubos Lunak >>> (C) 2001 Oswald Buddenhagen >>> >>> Usage : numlockx [on|off] >>> on - turns NumLock on in X ( default ) >>> off - turns NumLock off in X >>> toggle - toggles the NumLock on and off in X >>> >>> I run into this more often than I like moving between VMs and my host. numlockx >>> always fixes it right up for me. >>> >>> >> Numlock works like it's supposed to. >> > Oops, didn't read carefully enough. Have you tried using a virtual keyboard to > toggle it? I was able to get them switched and switched back using the caps > lock key on kvkbd. Toggling caps on the virtual keyboard toggled the state as > far as X was concerned but not the physical keyboard light. > > As it worked out I had to restart anyway. I couldn't even get Konsole to start. The whole computer was acting weird. Don't know what the issue was. This is the second time I've had this caps lock issue. If/when it happens again I'll have to give your idea a try. Thanks. -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington From tanghus at gmail.com Fri Sep 17 18:50:02 2010 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:50:02 +0200 Subject: 1.04.1 LTS status In-Reply-To: <201009170344.12405.msh@farsight-data.com> References: <201009170344.12405.msh@farsight-data.com> Message-ID: <201009172050.02440.tanghus@gmail.com> On Friday 17 September 2010 09:44:11 FarSight Data Systems wrote: > On Friday 17 September 2010 02:49:19 am Bill vance wrote: > > I'm wondering about 1.04.1 LTS's status on a few things. > > > > 1st, what does, "LTS", stand for? > LTS stands for Long Term Support. This version of the distro gets, I > think, 5 years support from Canonical. The versions without an LTS suffix > only get 2 or 3 years. And it's 10.04 or 10.4 with 10 being the year 2010 and 04 being the month 04 as in April. The trailing 01 is a bug-fix release. -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen From mdhirsch at gmail.com Fri Sep 17 20:22:05 2010 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:22:05 -0600 Subject: Really weird mic problem in 10.04.1 In-Reply-To: <4C933D4D.5080700@gmail.com> References: <4C933D4D.5080700@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 4:05 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > This is Kubuntu 10.04 with KDE 4.4.5 on a Dell Vostro 3300 laptop > > For reasons of me messing up my system I had to make a clean install. > Prior to that I had the internal microphone as well as the external > mic-input working, used it in Skype now and then. > > Following the reinstall with x number of upgrades and all that internal > mic is no longer working, neither is the mic-input using an external mic. Do you have pulseaudio installed and running? Check your process list and see. Sometimes it sneaks in. Michael From mdhirsch at gmail.com Fri Sep 17 20:42:07 2010 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:42:07 -0600 Subject: Misskey Problem In-Reply-To: <4C935F3D.1080606@swbell.net> References: <4C935F3D.1080606@swbell.net> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > Somehow I managed to hit some weird key combination that has reversed > the operation of the Caps Lock. I now have to have the caps turned on to > type small letters and hit the shift key to type caps. Just the reverse > of how it normally works. > > Any idea what I did and how to correct it? > > Last time it happened I had to reboot to correct it. Something like this sometimes happens to me moving in and out of my windows VM. I"m not sure exactly what causes it. Sometimes I can stop it if I go in and out the the vm holding, or not holding, the control key. It helps if I hold my mouth right, too. I've occasionally gotten it to reset by switching to a viirtual console (CTRL-ALT-F1) and then back (ALT-F7). Sometimes when I get back my keyboard is okay. :) Other times my machine hangs and I reboot when I try that. :( Michael From wayward4now at gmail.com Sat Sep 18 06:08:27 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 02:08:27 -0400 Subject: 1.04.1 LTS status In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1284790107.7735.45.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 23:49 -0700, Bill vance wrote: > Howdy; > > I'm wondering about 1.04.1 LTS's status on a few things. > > 1st, what does, "LTS", stand for? > > 2nd, I've been hearing that installing gnome to get a working pulse > audio, and then installing > KUbuntu sorta works but can cause other problems. Anything to that? That's how I do it. I used to fear and loathe pulse and now I'm a pulse fanboi. When it's working as it should, it does some amazing slick things. Especially with USB audio... just plug whatever it is in, it's detected and selectable, on the fly, without a whimper or a blooming hand edit of some file, while waving a chicken foot. Pulse's biggest problem is that it was foisted off on people long before it was ready for prime-time, like KDE 4.0 was. There were a lot of bad feelings about it. I hated it with a passion. Now, to me, it's better than anything Winders offers ... by a mile. Ric Life is just a box of chocolates... they're all good. -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Sep 18 06:26:18 2010 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:26:18 +0200 Subject: Really weird mic problem in 10.04.1 In-Reply-To: References: <4C933D4D.5080700@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C945B8A.1060409@gmail.com> On 17/09/2010 22:22, Michael Hirsch wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 4:05 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> This is Kubuntu 10.04 with KDE 4.4.5 on a Dell Vostro 3300 laptop >> >> For reasons of me messing up my system I had to make a clean install. >> Prior to that I had the internal microphone as well as the external >> mic-input working, used it in Skype now and then. >> >> Following the reinstall with x number of upgrades and all that internal >> mic is no longer working, neither is the mic-input using an external mic. > > Do you have pulseaudio installed and running? Check your process list > and see. Sometimes it sneaks in. Nope, only "good old" alsa. Everything else works as expected - only the microphones are dead From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat Sep 18 06:52:56 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:52:56 +1000 Subject: Really weird mic problem in 10.04.1 In-Reply-To: <4C945B8A.1060409@gmail.com> References: <4C933D4D.5080700@gmail.com> <4C945B8A.1060409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C9461C8.6060003@iinet.net.au> On 18/09/2010 16:26, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 17/09/2010 22:22, Michael Hirsch wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 4:05 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> >>> This is Kubuntu 10.04 with KDE 4.4.5 on a Dell Vostro 3300 laptop >>> >>> For reasons of me messing up my system I had to make a clean install. >>> Prior to that I had the internal microphone as well as the external >>> mic-input working, used it in Skype now and then. >>> >>> Following the reinstall with x number of upgrades and all that internal >>> mic is no longer working, neither is the mic-input using an external mic. >>> >> Do you have pulseaudio installed and running? Check your process list >> and see. Sometimes it sneaks in. >> > Nope, only "good old" alsa. Everything else works as expected - only the > microphones are dead > I'm coming in late in this thread.... You have installed and ran alsamixergui and checked to see that the mic settings are operative? BC -- I didn't know it was impossible when I did it. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Sep 18 07:00:07 2010 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 09:00:07 +0200 Subject: Really weird mic problem in 10.04.1 In-Reply-To: <4C9461C8.6060003@iinet.net.au> References: <4C933D4D.5080700@gmail.com> <4C945B8A.1060409@gmail.com> <4C9461C8.6060003@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4C946377.7060506@gmail.com> On 18/09/2010 08:52, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 18/09/2010 16:26, O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 17/09/2010 22:22, Michael Hirsch wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 4:05 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >>> >>>> This is Kubuntu 10.04 with KDE 4.4.5 on a Dell Vostro 3300 laptop >>>> >>>> For reasons of me messing up my system I had to make a clean install. >>>> Prior to that I had the internal microphone as well as the external >>>> mic-input working, used it in Skype now and then. >>>> >>>> Following the reinstall with x number of upgrades and all that internal >>>> mic is no longer working, neither is the mic-input using an external mic. >>>> >>> Do you have pulseaudio installed and running? Check your process list >>> and see. Sometimes it sneaks in. >>> >> Nope, only "good old" alsa. Everything else works as expected - only the >> microphones are dead >> > > > I'm coming in late in this thread.... > > You have installed and ran alsamixergui and checked to see that the mic > settings are operative? > > BC > Yes, the internal mic is there and set to a decent volume From valtermura at gmail.com Sat Sep 18 07:22:08 2010 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 09:22:08 +0200 Subject: Really weird mic problem in 10.04.1 In-Reply-To: <4C946377.7060506@gmail.com> References: <4C933D4D.5080700@gmail.com> <4C9461C8.6060003@iinet.net.au> <4C946377.7060506@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201009180922.09392.valtermura@gmail.com> In data sabato 18 settembre 2010 09:00:07, O. Sinclair ha scritto: > On 18/09/2010 08:52, Basil Chupin wrote: > > On 18/09/2010 16:26, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> On 17/09/2010 22:22, Michael Hirsch wrote: > >>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 4:05 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > >>>> This is Kubuntu 10.04 with KDE 4.4.5 on a Dell Vostro 3300 laptop > >>>> > >>>> For reasons of me messing up my system I had to make a clean install. > >>>> Prior to that I had the internal microphone as well as the external > >>>> mic-input working, used it in Skype now and then. > >>>> > >>>> Following the reinstall with x number of upgrades and all that > >>>> internal mic is no longer working, neither is the mic-input using an > >>>> external mic. > >>> > >>> Do you have pulseaudio installed and running? Check your process list > >>> and see. Sometimes it sneaks in. > >> > >> Nope, only "good old" alsa. Everything else works as expected - only the > >> microphones are dead > > > > I'm coming in late in this thread.... > > > > You have installed and ran alsamixergui and checked to see that the mic > > settings are operative? > > > > BC > > Yes, the internal mic is there and set to a decent volume Try to add the "mic select" and change it inside. I had to set "mic2" to get mine working. -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From kassube at gmx.net Sat Sep 18 07:23:01 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 09:23:01 +0200 Subject: Really weird mic problem in 10.04.1 In-Reply-To: <4C945B8A.1060409@gmail.com> References: <4C933D4D.5080700@gmail.com> <4C945B8A.1060409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201009180923.01940.kassube@gmx.net> O. Sinclair wrote: > On 17/09/2010 22:22, Michael Hirsch wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 4:05 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> This is Kubuntu 10.04 with KDE 4.4.5 on a Dell Vostro 3300 laptop > >> > >> For reasons of me messing up my system I had to make a clean > >> install. Prior to that I had the internal microphone as well as > >> the external mic-input working, used it in Skype now and then. > >> > >> Following the reinstall with x number of upgrades and all that > >> internal mic is no longer working, neither is the mic-input using > >> an external mic. > > > > Do you have pulseaudio installed and running? Check your process > > list and see. Sometimes it sneaks in. > > Nope, only "good old" alsa. Everything else works as expected - only > the microphones are dead Please check in alsamixer or kmix if you have a slider marked "Digital". That was a new one with 10.04 on my machines and first it wasn't obvious to me that it also has an influence on the capture gain. Nils From ingolf.steinbach at googlemail.com Sat Sep 18 08:26:43 2010 From: ingolf.steinbach at googlemail.com (Ingolf Steinbach) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 10:26:43 +0200 Subject: VLC questions Message-ID: Hi, is there some technical reason that VLC - is still at version 1.0.6 - appears without logo in the start menu - is not offered when a (video) DVD is inserted? Or is it just lack of man power? kubuntu 10.04 Linux helios 2.6.32-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 20 14:21:58 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux Kind regards Ingolf From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Sep 18 09:45:17 2010 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:45:17 +0200 Subject: Really weird mic problem in 10.04.1 In-Reply-To: <201009180923.01940.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4C933D4D.5080700@gmail.com> <4C945B8A.1060409@gmail.com> <201009180923.01940.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4C948A2D.1030205@gmail.com> On 18/09/2010 09:23, Nils Kassube wrote: > O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 17/09/2010 22:22, Michael Hirsch wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 4:05 AM, O. Sinclair > wrote: >>>> This is Kubuntu 10.04 with KDE 4.4.5 on a Dell Vostro 3300 laptop >>>> >>>> For reasons of me messing up my system I had to make a clean >>>> install. Prior to that I had the internal microphone as well as >>>> the external mic-input working, used it in Skype now and then. >>>> >>>> Following the reinstall with x number of upgrades and all that >>>> internal mic is no longer working, neither is the mic-input using >>>> an external mic. >>> >>> Do you have pulseaudio installed and running? Check your process >>> list and see. Sometimes it sneaks in. >> >> Nope, only "good old" alsa. Everything else works as expected - only >> the microphones are dead > > Please check in alsamixer or kmix if you have a slider marked "Digital". > That was a new one with 10.04 on my machines and first it wasn't obvious > to me that it also has an influence on the capture gain. > I gave up and did another reinstall from an earlier image, all now works. Thanks to the guy who did Remastersys a reinstall now takes like 40 minmutes given I have a separate /home partition From kassube at gmx.net Sat Sep 18 09:54:45 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:54:45 +0200 Subject: VLC questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201009181154.45109.kassube@gmx.net> Ingolf Steinbach wrote: > is there some technical reason that VLC > - is still at version 1.0.6 I think that was the latest version available at the time of the Lucid release. There is usually no version change for most packages after the release date. > - appears without logo in the start menu Start menu? Are you talking about Windows then? But seriously: I don't know what you mean - I have the logo in the K-menu entry (see attachment). > - is not offered when a (video) DVD is inserted? You can probably add the appropriate action if you configure the device notifier settings (didn't try this myself). Nils -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: VLC in K-menu.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 19285 bytes Desc: not available URL: From eu.mihai at hotmail.com Sun Sep 19 22:01:33 2010 From: eu.mihai at hotmail.com (mihai rotarescu) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:01:33 +0200 Subject: simultaneous sound in laptop speaker and headphones Message-ID: Hi, I have a Dell Vostro Laptop, core2 duo, with kubuntu 10.04 installed in paralel with windows 7(grub boot). I have an issue with the sound, meaning that I plug my headphones in the laptop, the sound from the laptop speakers continue playing and then as result i get sound in headphones as well as in laptop speaker. I don't face the same problem when i plug the headphones when using windows 7. I have checked on internet for solutions and somwhow i undestand that it maybe a problem with the audio driver...( i have checked dell driver cd i got with my laptop and I have the audio driver in a deb file but it is only for 32 bit) I would appreciate any support in finding a solution for this problem, as this means a lot for me, as I am using kubuntu as default OS. thanks a lot, mihai From eu.mihai at hotmail.com Sun Sep 19 22:03:57 2010 From: eu.mihai at hotmail.com (mihai rotarescu) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:03:57 +0200 Subject: ALSA AUDIO DRIVER simultaneous sound in laptop speaker and headphones Message-ID: Hi, I have a Dell Vostro Laptop, core2 duo, with kubuntu 10.04 installed in paralel with windows 7(grub boot). I have an issue with the sound, meaning that I plug my headphones in the laptop, the sound from the laptop speakers continue playing and then as result i get sound in headphones as well as in laptop speaker. I don't face the same problem when i plug the headphones when using windows 7. I have checked on internet for solutions and somwhow i undestand that it maybe a problem with the audio driver...( i have checked dell driver cd i got with my laptop and I have the audio driver in a deb file but it is only for 32 bit) I would appreciate any support in finding a solution for this problem, as this means a lot for me, as I am using kubuntu as default OS. thanks a lot, mihai From ketelaars at wanadoo.nl Mon Sep 20 17:55:19 2010 From: ketelaars at wanadoo.nl (Frans Ketelaars) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: ALSA AUDIO DRIVER simultaneous sound in laptop speaker and headphones References: Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:03:57 +0200, mihai rotarescu wrote: > Hi, > I have a Dell Vostro Laptop, core2 duo, with kubuntu 10.04 installed in > paralel with windows 7(grub boot). > I have an issue with the sound, meaning that I plug my headphones in the > laptop, the sound from the laptop speakers continue playing and then as > result i get sound in headphones as well as in laptop speaker. I don't > face the same problem when i plug the headphones when using windows 7. > > I have checked on internet for solutions and somwhow i undestand that it > maybe a problem with the audio driver...( i have checked dell driver cd > i got with my laptop and I have the audio driver in a deb file but it is > only for 32 bit) > > I would appreciate any support in finding a solution for this problem, > as this means a lot for me, as I am using kubuntu as default OS. > > thanks a lot, > mihai Some suggestions: 1. Specify _which_ Dell Vostro you have (and use it in your google searches). 2. Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto 3. Read http://playingwithsid.blogspot.com/2010/06/headphone-jack-sense-problem-in-ubuntu.html Now that you know you have a "Headphone jack sense problem" you can use that info in your google searches. Good luck! -Frans From eu.mihai at hotmail.com Mon Sep 20 20:18:53 2010 From: eu.mihai at hotmail.com (mihai rotarescu) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 22:18:53 +0200 Subject: ALSA AUDIO DRIVER simultaneous sound in laptop speaker and headphones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Monday 20 September 2010 19:55:19 Frans Ketelaars wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:03:57 +0200, mihai rotarescu wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a Dell Vostro Laptop, core2 duo, with kubuntu 10.04 installed in > > paralel with windows 7(grub boot). > > I have an issue with the sound, meaning that I plug my headphones in the > > laptop, the sound from the laptop speakers continue playing and then as > > result i get sound in headphones as well as in laptop speaker. I don't > > face the same problem when i plug the headphones when using windows 7. > > > > I have checked on internet for solutions and somwhow i undestand that it > > maybe a problem with the audio driver...( i have checked dell driver cd > > i got with my laptop and I have the audio driver in a deb file but it is > > only for 32 bit) > > > > I would appreciate any support in finding a solution for this problem, > > as this means a lot for me, as I am using kubuntu as default OS. > > > > thanks a lot, > > mihai > > Some suggestions: > > 1. Specify _which_ Dell Vostro you have (and use it in your google > searches). > > 2. Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto > > 3. Read > http://playingwithsid.blogspot.com/2010/06/headphone-jack-sense-problem-in > -ubuntu.html Now that you know you have a "Headphone jack sense problem" > you can use that info in your google searches. > > Good luck! > > -Frans thanks a lot for your suggestions. i have tried your 3 alternative and it worked perfect. I appreciate. You made my day thanks again, mihai From bqz69 at telia.com Mon Sep 20 20:48:30 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: When clicking on a link in dolphin it asks for "Open with:" References: Message-ID: When I click on the reload box in dolphin, it seems to fix the problem, then the file format changes to an ordinary directory file. From eu.mihai at hotmail.com Tue Sep 21 08:53:50 2010 From: eu.mihai at hotmail.com (mihai rotarescu) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:53:50 +0200 Subject: font settings issue-kubuntu 10.04, kde 4.4.5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Monday 20 September 2010 22:18:53 mihai rotarescu wrote: > On Monday 20 September 2010 19:55:19 Frans Ketelaars wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:03:57 +0200, mihai rotarescu wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I have a Dell Vostro Laptop, core2 duo, with kubuntu 10.04 installed in > > > paralel with windows 7(grub boot). > > > I have an issue with the sound, meaning that I plug my headphones in > > > the laptop, the sound from the laptop speakers continue playing and > > > then as result i get sound in headphones as well as in laptop speaker. > > > I don't face the same problem when i plug the headphones when using > > > windows 7. > > > > > > I have checked on internet for solutions and somwhow i undestand that > > > it maybe a problem with the audio driver...( i have checked dell > > > driver cd i got with my laptop and I have the audio driver in a deb > > > file but it is only for 32 bit) > > > > > > I would appreciate any support in finding a solution for this problem, > > > as this means a lot for me, as I am using kubuntu as default OS. > > > > > > thanks a lot, > > > mihai > > > > Some suggestions: > > > > 1. Specify _which_ Dell Vostro you have (and use it in your google > > searches). > > > > 2. Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto > > > > 3. Read > > http://playingwithsid.blogspot.com/2010/06/headphone-jack-sense-problem-i > > n -ubuntu.html Now that you know you have a "Headphone jack sense > > problem" you can use that info in your google searches. > > > > Good luck! > > > > -Frans > > thanks a lot for your suggestions. > i have tried your 3 alternative and it worked perfect. > > I appreciate. > You made my day > > thanks again, > mihai I would have one more issue and maybe you'll be able to help me:). I am using kubuntu 10.04 with kde 4.4.5. Every time I want to change the system font and its size(I go to Settings- System Settings-Apperance-Fonts) i push the button CHOOSE and then the fonts windows simply dissapears and if I try changing it again, it happens the same thing. Maybe you know a soluttion to how can I make my font settings work. Thanks From ketelaars at wanadoo.nl Tue Sep 21 15:14:40 2010 From: ketelaars at wanadoo.nl (Frans Ketelaars) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: font settings issue-kubuntu 10.04, kde 4.4.5 References: Message-ID: On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:53:50 +0200, mihai rotarescu wrote: > I would have one more issue and maybe you'll be able to help me:). I am > using kubuntu 10.04 with kde 4.4.5. > Every time I want to change the system font and its size(I go to > Settings- System Settings-Apperance-Fonts) i push the button CHOOSE and > then the fonts windows simply dissapears and if I try changing it again, > it happens the same thing. > > Maybe you know a soluttion to how can I make my font settings work. > > Thanks >From http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists : "When starting a new subject, do not reply to a previous email from the mailing list. If you do, your email may form part of a previous thread. To start a new subject, use a clean email." That way your question is not hidden in the "ALSA AUDIO DRIVER simultaneous sound in laptop speaker and headphones" thread and people on the list who can help are much more likely to find it. Good luck! -Frans From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Sep 21 16:50:49 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:50:49 -0500 Subject: Scanner Question Message-ID: <4C98E269.1090301@swbell.net> I have an HP 4100 all in one printer connected directly to a USB port. I was having some issues with it as a printer after a clean install of 10.04 and found it was a bad cable. Replaced that and that part now works fine. I just can't use the scanner part. I've never had any issue on previous versions/machines. So far I've tried different ports. Checked to make sure that all the requisite software is installed [ sane, hplip, etc. ], and even marked it for re-install via Synaptic. I'm out of ideas. Any suggestions. I really need the scanner more than the printer. -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington From wayward4now at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 17:14:50 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:14:50 -0400 Subject: Scanner Question In-Reply-To: <4C98E269.1090301@swbell.net> References: <4C98E269.1090301@swbell.net> Message-ID: <1285089290.14180.20.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 11:50 -0500, Billie Walsh wrote: > I have an HP 4100 all in one printer connected directly to a USB port. I > was having some issues with it as a printer after a clean install of > 10.04 and found it was a bad cable. Replaced that and that part now > works fine. > > I just can't use the scanner part. > > I've never had any issue on previous versions/machines. So far I've > tried different ports. Checked to make sure that all the requisite > software is installed [ sane, hplip, etc. ], and even marked it for > re-install via Synaptic. > > I'm out of ideas. Any suggestions. I really need the scanner more than > the printer. This may sound nuts, but I found that at times I have to open and close the scanner lid part to recycle "something". I know, not very techie but once I do that, something grinds and whirs and I'm able to scan. I loathe the amount of ink my HP 1510 eats, but it's a fine scanner. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From valtermura at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 17:47:46 2010 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:47:46 +0200 Subject: Scanner Question In-Reply-To: <4C98E269.1090301@swbell.net> References: <4C98E269.1090301@swbell.net> Message-ID: <201009211947.46905.valtermura@gmail.com> In data martedì 21 settembre 2010 18:50:49, Billie Walsh ha scritto: > I have an HP 4100 all in one printer connected directly to a USB port. I > was having some issues with it as a printer after a clean install of > 10.04 and found it was a bad cable. Replaced that and that part now > works fine. > > I just can't use the scanner part. I have an HP 5180 all-in-one printer connected directly to a USB port, and for me works quite well. The scanner I'm using is XSane Image Scanner, version 0.996; it detects correctly the device and works very well. I have also HPLIP installed, version 3.10.2, device manager 15.0 (Qt4) and the command present in the settings for the scanner is: /usr/bin/xsane -V %SANE_URI% Maybe you lack of some driver, but please look at this page: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip- web/models/photosmart/photosmart_c4100_series.html Regards, -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Sep 21 20:38:15 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:38:15 -0500 Subject: Scanner Question In-Reply-To: <1285089290.14180.20.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <4C98E269.1090301@swbell.net> <1285089290.14180.20.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <4C9917B7.5030907@swbell.net> On 09/21/2010 12:14 PM, Ric Moore wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 11:50 -0500, Billie Walsh wrote: > >> I have an HP 4100 all in one printer connected directly to a USB port. I >> was having some issues with it as a printer after a clean install of >> 10.04 and found it was a bad cable. Replaced that and that part now >> works fine. >> >> I just can't use the scanner part. >> >> I've never had any issue on previous versions/machines. So far I've >> tried different ports. Checked to make sure that all the requisite >> software is installed [ sane, hplip, etc. ], and even marked it for >> re-install via Synaptic. >> >> I'm out of ideas. Any suggestions. I really need the scanner more than >> the printer. >> > This may sound nuts, but I found that at times I have to open and close > the scanner lid part to recycle "something". I know, not very techie but > once I do that, something grinds and whirs and I'm able to scan. I > loathe the amount of ink my HP 1510 eats, but it's a fine scanner. Ric I've opened and closed the lid many times trying to get it to scan something. So far that hasn't done any good. -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Sep 21 21:04:09 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:04:09 -0500 Subject: Scanner Question - SOLVED In-Reply-To: <201009211947.46905.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <4C98E269.1090301@swbell.net> <201009211947.46905.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C991DC9.5040704@swbell.net> On 09/21/2010 12:47 PM, Valter Mura wrote: > In data martedì 21 settembre 2010 18:50:49, Billie Walsh ha scritto: > > >> I have an HP 4100 all in one printer connected directly to a USB port. I >> was having some issues with it as a printer after a clean install of >> 10.04 and found it was a bad cable. Replaced that and that part now >> works fine. >> >> I just can't use the scanner part. >> > I have an HP 5180 all-in-one printer connected directly to a USB port, and for > me works quite well. > > The scanner I'm using is XSane Image Scanner, version 0.996; it detects > correctly the device and works very well. > > I have also HPLIP installed, version 3.10.2, device manager 15.0 (Qt4) and the > command present in the settings for the scanner is: > > /usr/bin/xsane -V %SANE_URI% > > Maybe you lack of some driver, but please look at this page: > > http://hplipopensource.com/hplip- > web/models/photosmart/photosmart_c4100_series.html > > Regards, > I had just reloaded everything from the repos with synaptic and it didn't work. I followed your link to HP and downloaded the "latest and greatest" and ran the installer script. Now it works. I guess the version in the repo needs updated or something. I really appreciate it. Thanks loads. -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington From wayward4now at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 23:23:14 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:23:14 -0400 Subject: Scanner Question In-Reply-To: <4C9917B7.5030907@swbell.net> References: <4C98E269.1090301@swbell.net> <1285089290.14180.20.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <4C9917B7.5030907@swbell.net> Message-ID: <1285111394.14180.37.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 15:38 -0500, Billie Walsh wrote: > On 09/21/2010 12:14 PM, Ric Moore wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 11:50 -0500, Billie Walsh wrote: > > > >> I have an HP 4100 all in one printer connected directly to a USB port. I > >> was having some issues with it as a printer after a clean install of > >> 10.04 and found it was a bad cable. Replaced that and that part now > >> works fine. > >> > >> I just can't use the scanner part. > >> > >> I've never had any issue on previous versions/machines. So far I've > >> tried different ports. Checked to make sure that all the requisite > >> software is installed [ sane, hplip, etc. ], and even marked it for > >> re-install via Synaptic. > >> > >> I'm out of ideas. Any suggestions. I really need the scanner more than > >> the printer. > >> > > This may sound nuts, but I found that at times I have to open and close > > the scanner lid part to recycle "something". I know, not very techie but > > once I do that, something grinds and whirs and I'm able to scan. I > > loathe the amount of ink my HP 1510 eats, but it's a fine scanner. Ric > > I've opened and closed the lid many times trying to get it to scan > something. So far that hasn't done any good. Sorry, it was a real shot in the dark. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From RParr at TemporalArts.COM Wed Sep 22 02:19:46 2010 From: RParr at TemporalArts.COM (RParr) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:19:46 -0700 Subject: vnc to KDE desktop UGLY; vnc to Gnome desktop OK Message-ID: <4C9967C2.7090402@TemporalArts.com> I have installed xinetd, vnc4server 4.1.1, and xvnc4viewer 4.1.1 in a [K]ubuntu 10.04 lucid system and configured xinetd to start vnc sessions and allow login via kdm. I have several [K]ubuntu 8.04 systems configured this way and they work great whether logging into a KDE or Gnome desktop session. I copied my 8.04 xinetd.d/vncserver config but had to remove the "-extension XFIXES" from server_args to get it to work. It works -- kind of. When the user logs in and selects a Gnome Desktop, the desktop looks good but it is a Gnome desktop and some of the things like Session, Save appear to be missing when accessed via kdm. When the user logs in and selects a KDE Desktop, the desktop is very, very ugly and unuseable. For example, the fonts do not show up in the menu so I have only icons. The task bar is so dithered it is unreadable. Everything comes up enough to recognize if you're familiar with it but it is all but unreadable. The logs/error messages imply -depth 24 is being used. I have run across other queries about this same problem but have found no solutions. Does anyone have a solution or suggestions? Thanks R.Parr, RHCE From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 16:33:42 2010 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:33:42 +0200 Subject: Menu click: focus already-open instance if running Message-ID: I support quite a few [K]Ubuntu installs, and a recurring problem that I see is users opening many instances of a program. This mostly applies to elderly users. I am thinking about writing a script to wrap common applications (Skype and Firefox, for instance) that would grep the running processes for an instance, and if there is one then to focus that instance. Only if there is no current instance should a new instance be created. However, I am at a loss for how to actually do the focus. A shell script would grep ps, but how to focus the app? I CC the Ubuntu and Kubuntu lists, as the solution for Gnome and for KDE might be different. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com From valtermura at gmail.com Wed Sep 22 16:50:01 2010 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:50:01 +0200 Subject: Scanner Question - SOLVED In-Reply-To: <4C991DC9.5040704@swbell.net> References: <4C98E269.1090301@swbell.net> <201009211947.46905.valtermura@gmail.com> <4C991DC9.5040704@swbell.net> Message-ID: <201009221850.02116.valtermura@gmail.com> In data martedì 21 settembre 2010 23:04:09, Billie Walsh ha scritto: > On 09/21/2010 12:47 PM, Valter Mura wrote: > > In data martedì 21 settembre 2010 18:50:49, Billie Walsh ha scritto: > >> I have an HP 4100 all in one printer connected directly to a USB port. I > >> was having some issues with it as a printer after a clean install of > >> 10.04 and found it was a bad cable. Replaced that and that part now > >> works fine. > >> > >> I just can't use the scanner part. > > > > I have an HP 5180 all-in-one printer connected directly to a USB port, > > and for me works quite well. > > > > The scanner I'm using is XSane Image Scanner, version 0.996; it detects > > correctly the device and works very well. > > > > I have also HPLIP installed, version 3.10.2, device manager 15.0 (Qt4) > > and the command present in the settings for the scanner is: > > > > /usr/bin/xsane -V %SANE_URI% > > > > Maybe you lack of some driver, but please look at this page: > > > > http://hplipopensource.com/hplip- > > web/models/photosmart/photosmart_c4100_series.html > > > > Regards, > > I had just reloaded everything from the repos with synaptic and it > didn't work. I followed your link to HP and downloaded the "latest and > greatest" and ran the installer script. Now it works. I guess the > version in the repo needs updated or something. > > I really appreciate it. Thanks loads. Very welcome :-) I'm really happy when I succeed to help some of you Cheers, -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From john_re at fastmail.us Thu Sep 23 07:14:27 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:14:27 -0700 Subject: HowTo add standard KDE system into Ubuntu 10.04 school computers Message-ID: <1285226067.2853.1396461895@webmail.messagingengine.com> Recent model school computers with standard Ubuntu 10.04 installed. Want to add on the standard KDE, so the users will be able to select the KDE or Gnome interface at login time. Important: For minimizing system administation efforts: - Want to ensure adding KDE doesn't break the standard Ubuntu system operation in any way. 1) What is the proper way to add in KDE? 2) What problems might likely occur, & what are the methods to fix them? Thanks. :) == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu Sep 23 07:41:29 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:41:29 +1000 Subject: HowTo add standard KDE system into Ubuntu 10.04 school computers In-Reply-To: <1285226067.2853.1396461895@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1285226067.2853.1396461895@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4C9B04A9.6050108@iinet.net.au> On 23/09/2010 17:14, giovanni_re wrote: > Recent model school computers with standard Ubuntu 10.04 installed. > > Want to add on the standard KDE, so the users will be able to select the > KDE or Gnome interface at login time. > > Important: For minimizing system administation efforts: > - Want to ensure adding KDE doesn't break the standard Ubuntu system > operation in any way. > > 1) What is the proper way to add in KDE? > > 2) What problems might likely occur,& what are the methods to fix them? > > Thanks. :) > You have been asking questions in this and other mail lists and people have provided you with answers. I was one of those who supplied you with at least one answer. However, you have never even acknowledged the responses nor stated if the answers solved your problem(s). On 6 September I even sent you a private message about this. But even here you did not bother to reply to my message. Every time now when I see a question from you I simply ignore it - except for this one to be able to get my message posted publicly to you. You ask a question about a problem you are having and get a response then provide feed-back. BC -- I didn't know it was impossible when I did it. From bqz69 at telia.com Thu Sep 23 07:51:42 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:51:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: When adding an attachment in kmail it shows it as a screenshot of a directory References: Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:12:45 +0000, user1 wrote: > I am using lucid and kde 4.4.5 > > When I add an attachment of a jpg image in kmail and set its properties > to "Suggest automatic display" it does not show the image, and when I > then try to open the jpg file it shows an older screenthot of a > directory and call it: "It is a directory". > > I saw the same thing happen some time ago with another attachment from > another person. > > I tried to make a jpg file from a screenshot with both shutter and > scrot, but same thing happened. > > There seems to be some kind of mix up when i use this feature in kmail. I STILL HAVE NOT SOLVED THIS PROBLEM ?? I have reinstalled kmail but it does not help. I cannot find any help by googling for the problem. By the way, I have upgraded to kde 4.4.5 from the lucid 10.04 default kde version? From info at alvin.be Thu Sep 23 08:08:13 2010 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:08:13 +0200 Subject: HowTo add standard KDE system into Ubuntu 10.04 school computers In-Reply-To: <1285226067.2853.1396461895@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1285226067.2853.1396461895@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201009231008.24246.info@alvin.be> On Thursday 23 September 2010 09:14:27 giovanni_re wrote: > Recent model school computers with standard Ubuntu 10.04 installed. > > Want to add on the standard KDE, so the users will be able to select the > KDE or Gnome interface at login time. That is possible by default. You can select the DE from GDM or KDM. > Important: For minimizing system administation efforts: > - Want to ensure adding KDE doesn't break the standard Ubuntu system > operation in any way. > > 1) What is the proper way to add in KDE? # aptitude install kubuntu-desktop > 2) What problems might likely occur, & what are the methods to fix them? By installing kubuntu-desktop, you will set KDM as the default login manager. You can change that if you want, but in my opinion it's a better choice. (KDM supports XDMCP.) KDM does have the occasional problem of not showing up [1], forcing you to reboot. This is most probably an upstart/plymouth problem. There are no show-stopping problems as far as I know. You'll encounter some bugs, but nothing life-threatening, like nepomuk segfaulting [2]. You can prevent network-manager problems by disabling suspend/hibernate [3]. Other likely problems are kontact, akregator, kopete and krunner segfaulting, but your students probably don't need those. Also, the NFS kioslave is broken [4], but Gnome doesn't even have such a feature [5], so just mount your shares in /etc/fstab and hope that mountall succeeds in mounting them. If your /home directories reside on a fileserver, be sure to read [6]. It all depends on your needs. If you tell us what the students will be doing with KDE, we might tell you more about what they might encounter. I deployed Kubuntu in a company where it is mainly running one commercial application, XDMCP and rdesktop. Aside from the many boot troubles (reboot as workaround, not KDE related), and the Caps Lock button not working in rdesktop [7] there are not many complaints. 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URL: From kassube at gmx.net Thu Sep 23 09:29:25 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:29:25 +0200 Subject: When adding an attachment in kmail it shows it as a screenshot of a directory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201009231129.25182.kassube@gmx.net> user1 wrote: > On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:12:45 +0000, user1 wrote: > > I am using lucid and kde 4.4.5 > > > > When I add an attachment of a jpg image in kmail and set its > > properties to "Suggest automatic display" it does not show the > > image, and when I then try to open the jpg file it shows an older > > screenthot of a directory and call it: "It is a directory". > > > > I saw the same thing happen some time ago with another attachment > > from another person. > > > > I tried to make a jpg file from a screenshot with both shutter and > > scrot, but same thing happened. > > > > There seems to be some kind of mix up when i use this feature in > > kmail. > > I have reinstalled kmail but it does not help. Reinstalling kmail should not help at all. The configuration of kmail is stored somewhere in your home directory and that is off-limits for the installer. Only if your installed version of kmail was damaged, it might help to reinstall the applicattion. > By the way, I have upgraded to kde 4.4.5 from the lucid 10.04 default > kde version? Well, that is at least a hint where the problem could come from. Maybe one of your configuration files wasn't upgraded correctly for some reason and maybe it isn't even related to kmail itself. Please check your file associations, maybe there is something wrong for jpeg files and they are associated with directories. Another option would be to close kmail and make a backup of your $HOME/.kde/ directory where KDE configurations are stored and then remove the file "$HOME/.kde/share/config/kmailrc". Then you would start kmail from scratch (at least partly) and you would probably have to configure all your kmail settings again. Nils From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Thu Sep 23 12:34:41 2010 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:34:41 +0100 Subject: nfs mount problem Message-ID: <4C9B4961.7090406@btinternet.com> I can't for the life me get an nfs mount to work, this is the entry I've put in /etc/exports: /pub/brian meg(ro,insecure,all_squash,sync,no_subtree_check) which at least generates no errors from the server nfs daemon, but all I get from the mount command on the client is 'access denied by server'. mutter, mutter. I've tried ip addresses, I've tried a multitude of differnet options(in- cluding none), makes no difference, still get access denied by server on the client machine. I've read 'man exports' until my eyes water. I found some useful howtos on google, but still 'access denied by server'. If any-one has a magic entry for me to try I'd be glad to try it, or any helpful hints. brian From tomh0665 at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 12:49:03 2010 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:49:03 -0400 Subject: nfs mount problem In-Reply-To: <4C9B4961.7090406@btinternet.com> References: <4C9B4961.7090406@btinternet.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Brian Wootton wrote: > > I can't for the life me get an nfs mount to work, > this is the entry I've put in /etc/exports: > > /pub/brian      meg(ro,insecure,all_squash,sync,no_subtree_check) > > which at least generates no errors from the server nfs daemon, but > all I get from the mount command on the client is 'access denied by > server'. mutter, mutter. > I've tried ip addresses, I've tried a multitude of differnet options(in- > cluding none), makes no difference, still get access denied by server > on the client machine. >  I've read 'man exports' until my eyes water. I found some useful > howtos on google, but still 'access denied by server'. What are is your mount command? Assuming that you're using nfsv4, you have to mount "/" not "/pub/brian". From info at alvin.be Thu Sep 23 12:49:27 2010 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:49:27 +0200 Subject: nfs mount problem In-Reply-To: <4C9B4961.7090406@btinternet.com> References: <4C9B4961.7090406@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <201009231449.29050.info@alvin.be> On Thursday 23 September 2010 14:34:41 Brian Wootton wrote: > I can't for the life me get an nfs mount to work, > this is the entry I've put in /etc/exports: > > /pub/brian meg(ro,insecure,all_squash,sync,no_subtree_check) > > which at least generates no errors from the server nfs daemon, but > all I get from the mount command on the client is 'access denied by > server'. mutter, mutter. > I've tried ip addresses, I've tried a multitude of differnet options(in- > cluding none), makes no difference, still get access denied by server > on the client machine. > I've read 'man exports' until my eyes water. I found some useful > howtos on google, but still 'access denied by server'. > If any-one has a magic entry for me to try I'd be glad to try it, or any > helpful hints. Please give us some extra information (if it's there), like: - Command used to mount the share - Other lines in /etc/exports - Changes you did in other files (/etc/default/nfs-common, /etc/idmap.conf) - Is the portmap daemon running? - Do you have nfs-common installed on the client and nfs-kernel-server on the server? - What does 'showmount -e' on the server tell you? I see you use the insecure option? The only use of that option that I know of is the NFS kioslave, but that will not work in your case because your share is a subdirectory. [1] [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/385514 From tomh0665 at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 15:31:38 2010 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:31:38 -0400 Subject: nfs mount problem In-Reply-To: <201009231449.29050.info@alvin.be> References: <4C9B4961.7090406@btinternet.com> <201009231449.29050.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Alvin wrote: > On Thursday 23 September 2010 14:34:41 Brian Wootton wrote: >> I can't for the life me get an nfs mount to work, >> this is the entry I've put in /etc/exports: >> >> /pub/brian      meg(ro,insecure,all_squash,sync,no_subtree_check) >> >> which at least generates no errors from the server nfs daemon, but >> all I get from the mount command on the client is 'access denied by >> server'. mutter, mutter. >> I've tried ip addresses, I've tried a multitude of differnet options(in- >> cluding none), makes no difference, still get access denied by server >> on the client machine. >>   I've read 'man exports' until my eyes water. I found some useful >> howtos on google, but still 'access denied by server'. >>   If any-one has a magic entry for me to try I'd be glad to try it, or any >> helpful hints. > > Please give us some extra information (if it's there), like: > - Command used to mount the share > - Other lines in /etc/exports > - Changes you did in other files (/etc/default/nfs-common, /etc/idmap.conf) > - Is the portmap daemon running? > - Do you have nfs-common installed on the client and nfs-kernel-server on the > server? > - What does 'showmount -e' on the server tell you? > > I see you use the insecure option? The only use of that option that I know of > is the NFS kioslave, but that will not work in your case because your share is > a subdirectory. [1] > > [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/385514 I just assumed that it might be an nfsv4 "root fs" problem but this is a more comprehensive and "holistic" approach. I would add "rpcinfo -p" on the server. The "insecure" option is needed if you have OS X clients. From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 16:02:42 2010 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:02:42 -0600 Subject: Identifying process using network? Message-ID: <4C9B7A22.1010802@gmail.com> Since a recent upgrade, I find that some process on my lucid system is sending about 50MB per hour of traffic somewhere. This is obviously not good. How can I determine which process is using the network interface to send so much traffic? Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 16:02:42 2010 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:02:42 -0600 Subject: Identifying process using network? Message-ID: <4C9B7A22.1010802@gmail.com> Since a recent upgrade, I find that some process on my lucid system is sending about 50MB per hour of traffic somewhere. This is obviously not good. How can I determine which process is using the network interface to send so much traffic? Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 16:02:42 2010 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:02:42 -0600 Subject: Identifying process using network? Message-ID: <4C9B7A22.1010802@gmail.com> Since a recent upgrade, I find that some process on my lucid system is sending about 50MB per hour of traffic somewhere. This is obviously not good. How can I determine which process is using the network interface to send so much traffic? Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From wes.hardin at maxim-ic.com Thu Sep 23 16:38:54 2010 From: wes.hardin at maxim-ic.com (Wes Hardin) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:38:54 -0500 Subject: Identifying process using network? In-Reply-To: <4C9B7A22.1010802@gmail.com> References: <4C9B7A22.1010802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C9B829E.6060602@maxim-ic.com> On 09/23/2010 11:02 AM, D. R. Evans wrote: > Since a recent upgrade, I find that some process on my lucid system is > sending about 50MB per hour of traffic somewhere. This is obviously not good. > > How can I determine which process is using the network interface to send so > much traffic? I think I would recommend a combination of iftop and netstat. Iftop can give you the amount of traffic (T to toggle cumulative) and its source and destination. Armed with that, you can use netstat with the -p option to put that with a PID. -- /* Wes Hardin */ UNIX System Administrator, IT Engineering Support Maxim Integrated Products: Innovation Delivered From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 16:45:32 2010 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:45:32 -0600 Subject: Identifying process using network? In-Reply-To: <4C9B829E.6060602@maxim-ic.com> References: <4C9B7A22.1010802@gmail.com> <4C9B829E.6060602@maxim-ic.com> Message-ID: <4C9B842C.1090701@gmail.com> Wes Hardin said the following at 09/23/2010 10:38 AM : >> How can I determine which process is using the network interface to send so >> much traffic? > > I think I would recommend a combination of iftop and netstat. Iftop can give > you the amount of traffic (T to toggle cumulative) and its source and > destination. Armed with that, you can use netstat with the -p option to put > that with a PID. Excellent. Thank you. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Thu Sep 23 18:41:14 2010 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:41:14 +0100 Subject: nfs mount problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C9B9F4A.7090808@btinternet.com> On 23/09/10 17:38, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > ubject: > Re: nfs mount problem > From: > Tom H > Date: > Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:31:38 -0400 > > To: > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Alvin wrote: > >> > On Thursday 23 September 2010 14:34:41 Brian Wootton wrote: >> >>> >> I can't for the life me get an nfs mount to work, >>> >> this is the entry I've put in /etc/exports: >>> >> >>> >> /pub/brian meg(ro,insecure,all_squash,sync,no_subtree_check) >>> >> >>> >> which at least generates no errors from the server nfs daemon, but >>> >> all I get from the mount command on the client is 'access denied by >>> >> server'. mutter, mutter. >>> >> I've tried ip addresses, I've tried a multitude of differnet options(in- >>> >> cluding none), makes no difference, still get access denied by server >>> >> on the client machine. >>> >> I've read 'man exports' until my eyes water. I found some useful >>> >> howtos on google, but still 'access denied by server'. >>> >> If any-one has a magic entry for me to try I'd be glad to try it, or any >>> >> helpful hints. >>> >> > >> > Please give us some extra information (if it's there), like: >> > - Command used to mount the share >> > - Other lines in /etc/exports >> > - Changes you did in other files (/etc/default/nfs-common, /etc/idmap.conf) >> > - Is the portmap daemon running? >> > - Do you have nfs-common installed on the client and nfs-kernel-server on the >> > server? >> > - What does 'showmount -e' on the server tell you? >> > >> > I see you use the insecure option? The only use of that option that I know of >> > is the NFS kioslave, but that will not work in your case because your share is >> > a subdirectory. [1] >> > >> > [1]https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/385514 >> > I just assumed that it might be an nfsv4 "root fs" problem but this is > a more comprehensive and "holistic" approach. > > I would add "rpcinfo -p" on the server. > > The "insecure" option is needed if you have OS X clients. > This is a cut/paste from konsole ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > % sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start > [sudo] password for brian: > * Exporting directories for NFS kernel daemon... [ OK ] > * Starting NFS kernel daemon [ OK ] > % showmount -e > Export list for meg: > /pub/brian meg > % ps aux | grep portmap > daemon 667 0.0 0.0 8256 616 ? Ss 11:04 0:00 portmap > brian 4585 0.0 0.0 7632 992 pts/1 S+ 19:23 0:00 grep --color=auto portmap > % ls -ls /pub > total 4 > 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 brian brian 4096 2010-09-18 11:14 brian > > > % more /etc/exports > # /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems which may be exported > # to NFS clients. See unfsd(8). > /pub/brian meg(ro,insecure,all_squash,sync,no_subtree_check) > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > /pub is owned by root. My client machine is a laptop running the latest Mandriva Spring release and I have used KNetAttach as well as 'mount -t nfs meg:/pub/brian also used IP address here - all no go. I think it has to be the arguments to the entry in etc/exports, but I've tried so many different combinations now I'm utterly confused. I don't like or want 'insecure'. I'm starting the nfs server manually for the moment, when I can get it all working I'll put it the boot-up start list. brian From tomh0665 at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 19:47:16 2010 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:47:16 -0400 Subject: nfs mount problem In-Reply-To: <4C9B9F4A.7090808@btinternet.com> References: <4C9B9F4A.7090808@btinternet.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Brian Wootton wrote: >>>> >>  I can't for the life me get an nfs mount to work, >>>> >>  this is the entry I've put in /etc/exports: >>>> >> >>>> >>  /pub/brian      meg(ro,insecure,all_squash,sync,no_subtree_check) >>>> >> >>>> >>  which at least generates no errors from the server nfs daemon, but >>>> >>  all I get from the mount command on the client is 'access denied by >>>> >>  server'. mutter, mutter. >>>> >>  I've tried ip addresses, I've tried a multitude of differnet options(in- >>>> >>  cluding none), makes no difference, still get access denied by server >>>> >>  on the client machine. >>>> >>     I've read 'man exports' until my eyes water. I found some useful >>>> >>  howtos on google, but still 'access denied by server'. >>>> >>     If any-one has a magic entry for me to try I'd be glad to try it, or any >>>> >>  helpful hints. >>>> >>> > >>> >  Please give us some extra information (if it's there), like: >>> >  - Command used to mount the share >>> >  - Other lines in /etc/exports >>> >  - Changes you did in other files (/etc/default/nfs-common, /etc/idmap.conf) >>> >  - Is the portmap daemon running? >>> >  - Do you have nfs-common installed on the client and nfs-kernel-server on the >>> >  server? >>> >  - What does 'showmount -e' on the server tell you? >>> > >>> >  I see you use the insecure option? The only use of that option that I know of >>> >  is the NFS kioslave, but that will not work in your case because your share is >>> >  a subdirectory. [1] >>> > >>> >  [1]https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/385514 >>> >> I just assumed that it might be an nfsv4 "root fs" problem but this is >> a more comprehensive and "holistic" approach. >> >> I would add "rpcinfo -p" on the server. >> >> The "insecure" option is needed if you have OS X clients. >> > > This is a cut/paste from konsole > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> % sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start >> [sudo] password for brian: >>   * Exporting directories for NFS kernel daemon...                                                                                                               [ OK ] >>   * Starting NFS kernel daemon                                                                                                                                   [ OK ] >> % showmount -e >> Export list for meg: >> /pub/brian meg >> % ps aux | grep portmap >> daemon     667  0.0  0.0   8256   616 ?        Ss   11:04   0:00 portmap >> brian     4585  0.0  0.0   7632   992 pts/1    S+   19:23   0:00 grep --color=auto portmap >> % ls -ls /pub >> total 4 >> 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 brian brian 4096 2010-09-18 11:14 brian >> >> % more /etc/exports >> # /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems which may be exported >> #               to NFS clients.  See unfsd(8). >> /pub/brian      meg(ro,insecure,all_squash,sync,no_subtree_check) >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > /pub is owned by root. > > My client machine is a laptop running the latest Mandriva Spring release > and I have used KNetAttach as well as 'mount -t nfs meg:/pub/brian > also used IP address here - all no go. >  I think it has to be the arguments to the entry in etc/exports, but > I've tried > so many different combinations now I'm utterly confused. I don't like or > want 'insecure'. > I'm starting the nfs server manually for the moment, when I can get it all > working I'll put it the boot-up start list. I still think that it might be an nfsv4 issue. Please add "fsid=0" to your export options (just in case but it should be the default here) and then use "mount -t nfs meg:/ /your/mount/point" The "insecure" isn't as bad as it sounds. It simply allows nfs to use non-privileged ports. From wayward4now at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 20:34:45 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:34:45 -0400 Subject: Identifying process using network? In-Reply-To: <4C9B842C.1090701@gmail.com> References: <4C9B7A22.1010802@gmail.com> <4C9B829E.6060602@maxim-ic.com> <4C9B842C.1090701@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1285274085.10233.57.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 10:45 -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > Wes Hardin said the following at 09/23/2010 10:38 AM : > > >> How can I determine which process is using the network interface to send so > >> much traffic? > > > > I think I would recommend a combination of iftop and netstat. Iftop can give > > you the amount of traffic (T to toggle cumulative) and its source and > > destination. Armed with that, you can use netstat with the -p option to put > > that with a PID. > > Excellent. Thank you. I'm impressed! I just installed iftop and have it working away... thanks. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From paul at lemmons.name Thu Sep 23 21:51:24 2010 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:51:24 -0700 Subject: Identifying process using network? In-Reply-To: <1285274085.10233.57.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <4C9B7A22.1010802@gmail.com> <4C9B829E.6060602@maxim-ic.com> <4C9B842C.1090701@gmail.com> <1285274085.10233.57.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <4C9BCBDC.1060207@lemmons.name> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Identifying process using network? From: Ric Moore To: Kubuntu user technical support Date: 09/23/2010 01:34 PM > On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 10:45 -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: >> Wes Hardin said the following at 09/23/2010 10:38 AM : >> >>>> How can I determine which process is using the network interface to send so >>>> much traffic? >>> >>> I think I would recommend a combination of iftop and netstat. Iftop can give >>> you the amount of traffic (T to toggle cumulative) and its source and >>> destination. Armed with that, you can use netstat with the -p option to put >>> that with a PID. >> >> Excellent. Thank you. > > I'm impressed! I just installed iftop and have it working away... > thanks. Ric > > lsof is also an excellent tool for determining who is using what resources. From john_re at fastmail.us Fri Sep 24 03:50:32 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:50:32 -0700 Subject: KUbuntu.com/org - add search box capability? Message-ID: <1285300232.16587.1396634389@webmail.messagingengine.com> Having a search on a website is a rather standard feature these days. Suggestion: Add that capability to kubuntu.com. Website developers: what are your plans for adding that capability? == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From john_re at fastmail.us Fri Sep 24 04:00:35 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:00:35 -0700 Subject: kubuntu.org -> wiki: Too many intermediate links, bad website design, Fix would be great. :) ; jor Message-ID: <1285300835.18253.1396634653@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi kubuntu.org website developers - thanks for all your great work. :) == Here's a test for you to see how difficult the current website is for new kubuntu users: Find several friends or acquaintances who don't use GNU(Linux) yet, but might be interested. (3-4 should be sufficient.) Ask them to do you this favor: 1) Go to kubuntu.com 2) By simply reading the webisite (ie, not doing a search) & clicking on links, find the kubuntu.com main wiki page. 3) For you, website developer: 3a) Time how long it takes them, & 3b) count how many web pages they had to open & read. Anyone reading this list care to try that & post here the results? == KUbuntu website developers: 1) Is it on the todo list to make it easier for people to find the KUbuntu wiki? 2) Any idea when that will be done? Thanks :) == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From john_re at fastmail.us Fri Sep 24 04:14:58 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:14:58 -0700 Subject: HowTo add standard KDE system into Ubuntu 10.04 school computers In-Reply-To: <201009231008.24246.info@alvin.be> References: <1285226067.2853.1396461895@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201009231008.24246.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: <1285301698.19936.1396634077@webmail.messagingengine.com> Alvin - thanks for your detailed information. :) On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:08:13 +0200, "Alvin" said: > > 2) What problems might likely occur, & what are the methods to fix them? > > By installing kubuntu-desktop, you will set KDM as the default login > manager. > You can change that if you want, Where does a sysadmin change the default login to gnome? - They might want to do that for consistency. > but in my opinion it's a better choice. > (KDM > supports XDMCP.) KDM does have the occasional problem of not showing up > [1], > forcing you to reboot. This is most probably an upstart/plymouth problem. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/538524 boot hangs on splash screen, doesn't switch to KDM "Scott Kitterman wrote on 2010-09-18: #47 Those of you still having problems, you should file a new bug. This one is fixed and adding to it is a source of confusion. " Note: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/plymouth https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/LucidBootExperience "graphical boot animation and logger - main package Plymouth is an application that runs very early in the boot process (even before the root filesystem is mounted!) that provides a graphical boot animation while the boot process happens in the background." > There are no show-stopping problems as far as I know. You'll encounter > some > bugs, but nothing life-threatening, like nepomuk segfaulting [2]. You can > prevent network-manager problems by disabling suspend/hibernate [3]. > Other likely problems are kontact, akregator, kopete and krunner > segfaulting, > but your students probably don't need those. Also, the NFS kioslave is > broken > [4], but Gnome doesn't even have such a feature [5], so just mount your > shares > in /etc/fstab and hope that mountall succeeds in mounting them. If your > /home > directories reside on a fileserver, be sure to read [6]. > > It all depends on your needs. If you tell us what the students will be > doing > with KDE, we might tell you more about what they might encounter. These are for a computer programming class. One student has asked that GVIM be installed. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/gvim-for-ubuntu-linux-264185/ I thought the KDE system should be installed, to give students experience with what had been, historically, the leading GNU(Linux) GUI system. > Aside from the many boot troubles (reboot as > workaround, > not KDE related), and the Caps Lock button not working in rdesktop [7] > there > are not many complaints. > > [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/538524 > [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/590088 > [3] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/524454 > [4] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/385514 > [5] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/24430 > [6] http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Deployment_issues > [7] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/251709 == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Fri Sep 24 11:13:46 2010 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:13:46 +0100 Subject: nfs mount problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C9C87EA.5010906@btinternet.com> On 24/09/10 05:15, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Subject: > Re: nfs mount problem > From: > Tom H > Date: > Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:47:16 -0400 > > To: > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Brian Wootton wrote: > > >>>>>>> >>>> >> I can't for the life me get an nfs mount to work, >>>>>>> >>>> >> this is the entry I've put in /etc/exports: >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> /pub/brian meg(ro,insecure,all_squash,sync,no_subtree_check) >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> which at least generates no errors from the server nfs daemon, but >>>>>>> >>>> >> all I get from the mount command on the client is 'access denied by >>>>>>> >>>> >> server'. mutter, mutter. >>>>>>> >>>> >> I've tried ip addresses, I've tried a multitude of differnet options(in- >>>>>>> >>>> >> cluding none), makes no difference, still get access denied by server >>>>>>> >>>> >> on the client machine. >>>>>>> >>>> >> I've read 'man exports' until my eyes water. I found some useful >>>>>>> >>>> >> howtos on google, but still 'access denied by server'. >>>>>>> >>>> >> If any-one has a magic entry for me to try I'd be glad to try it, or any >>>>>>> >>>> >> helpful hints. >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > Please give us some extra information (if it's there), like: >>>>> >>> > - Command used to mount the share >>>>> >>> > - Other lines in /etc/exports >>>>> >>> > - Changes you did in other files (/etc/default/nfs-common, /etc/idmap.conf) >>>>> >>> > - Is the portmap daemon running? >>>>> >>> > - Do you have nfs-common installed on the client and nfs-kernel-server on the >>>>> >>> > server? >>>>> >>> > - What does 'showmount -e' on the server tell you? >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > I see you use the insecure option? The only use of that option that I know of >>>>> >>> > is the NFS kioslave, but that will not work in your case because your share is >>>>> >>> > a subdirectory. [1] >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > [1]https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/385514 >>>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >> I just assumed that it might be an nfsv4 "root fs" problem but this is >>> >> a more comprehensive and "holistic" approach. >>> >> >>> >> I would add "rpcinfo -p" on the server. >>> >> >>> >> The "insecure" option is needed if you have OS X clients. >>> >> >>> >> > >> > This is a cut/paste from konsole >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> >>> >> % sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start >>> >> [sudo] password for brian: >>> >> * Exporting directories for NFS kernel daemon... [ OK ] >>> >> * Starting NFS kernel daemon [ OK ] >>> >> % showmount -e >>> >> Export list for meg: >>> >> /pub/brian meg >>> >> % ps aux | grep portmap >>> >> daemon 667 0.0 0.0 8256 616 ? Ss 11:04 0:00 portmap >>> >> brian 4585 0.0 0.0 7632 992 pts/1 S+ 19:23 0:00 grep --color=auto portmap >>> >> % ls -ls /pub >>> >> total 4 >>> >> 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 brian brian 4096 2010-09-18 11:14 brian >>> >> >>> >> % more /etc/exports >>> >> # /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems which may be exported >>> >> # to NFS clients. See unfsd(8). >>> >> /pub/brian meg(ro,insecure,all_squash,sync,no_subtree_check) >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >>> >> > /pub is owned by root. >> > >> > My client machine is a laptop running the latest Mandriva Spring release >> > and I have used KNetAttach as well as 'mount -t nfs meg:/pub/brian >> > also used IP address here - all no go. >> > I think it has to be the arguments to the entry in etc/exports, but >> > I've tried >> > so many different combinations now I'm utterly confused. I don't like or >> > want 'insecure'. >> > I'm starting the nfs server manually for the moment, when I can get it all >> > working I'll put it the boot-up start list. >> > I still think that it might be an nfsv4 issue. > > Please add "fsid=0" to your export options (just in case but it should > be the default here) and then use "mount -t nfs meg:/ > /your/mount/point" > > The "insecure" isn't as bad as it sounds. It simply allows nfs to use > non-privileged ports. > % more /etc/exports # /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems which may be exported # to NFS clients. See unfsd(8). /pub/brian nutmeg(rw,subtree_check) Got it all working properly with the above entry in meg(the server) su% mount -t nfs meg:/pub/brian /pub/brian and with the above command in meg(the client). There were 3 different stupidities on my part, 1.wrong ip entries in the router which confused the 2 machines and me. 2.needed to change back the default to 'subtree_check' in exports 3.read the man mount command more carefully and get the syntax right. When I got all 3 of these right _at the same time_ it all worked like a dream. Only the directory /pub/brian is exported and only brian can write to it - so I am now happy. thanks for all your suggestions brian > > From adil at alpman.net Fri Sep 24 11:55:36 2010 From: adil at alpman.net (Adil ALPMAN) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:55:36 +0300 Subject: zte mf636 on kubuntu 10.04 Message-ID: Hi Everybody; I have a ZTE MF636 modem and i wanna use it ob kubuntu. I have installed umtsmon from its .deb package with all dependencies, i input the device to my pc now then when its light look green i open umts mon and i see my gsm operators name and signal strength on umtsmon. Then i try to connect with it to internet and i open the connection properties on umtsmon but i dont know what must i do in here username and password fields... I use Avea in Turkey. On the other hand when i try to use this device with kppp it hadshake with my 3g modem and it look like working good when i query modem in kppp. But then i input strings to the empty fields from this picture; http://tr.pardus-wiki.org/Dosya:Statik8.jpg then i click ok but when i click connect after it kpp says querying modem than looks freeze and nothing was happened... I cant understand where is the problem and how can i resolve it... My lsusb and lupci outputs ae attached to this mail... Thanks a alot wo will reply me and help me... Sincerely... Adil ALPMAN -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: lspci.txt URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: lsusb.txt URL: From claydoh at claydoh.com Fri Sep 24 12:46:45 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:46:45 -0400 Subject: kubuntu.org -> wiki: Too many intermediate links, bad website design, Fix would be great. :) ; jor In-Reply-To: <1285300835.18253.1396634653@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1285300835.18253.1396634653@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201009240846.46290.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Friday, September 24, 2010 12:00:35 am giovanni_re wrote: > Hi kubuntu.org website developers - thanks for all your great work. :) > > == > Here's a test for you to see how difficult the current website is for > new kubuntu users: > > Find several friends or acquaintances who don't use GNU(Linux) yet, but > might be interested. (3-4 should be sufficient.) > > Ask them to do you this favor: > > 1) Go to kubuntu.com > 2) By simply reading the webisite (ie, not doing a search) & clicking on > links, find the kubuntu.com main wiki page. > > 3) For you, website developer: > 3a) Time how long it takes them, & > 3b) count how many web pages they had to open & read. > > Anyone reading this list care to try that & post here the results? > > == > KUbuntu website developers: > 1) Is it on the todo list to make it easier for people to find the > KUbuntu wiki? > 2) Any idea when that will be done? > > > Thanks :) > > > This is probably better directed to the kubuntu-devel list, but that is just another place for you to cross-post :/ Why would a new user, generally speaking, need to use the kubuntu or ubuntu wiki? All the actual support areas are listed in the support page - help.ubuntu.com the correct wiki for that right in the support page. (not that there shouldn't be a link to the regular wiki, though) clay From myriam at kubuntu.org Fri Sep 24 22:35:46 2010 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 00:35:46 +0200 Subject: KUbuntu.com/org - add search box capability? In-Reply-To: <1285300232.16587.1396634389@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1285300232.16587.1396634389@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 05:50, giovanni_re wrote: > Having a search on a website is a rather standard feature these days. > > Suggestion: Add that capability to kubuntu.com. First of all, it is kubuntu.org, not dot com, even if there is a redirect. I don't see a search capability to be a standard feature at all, there are mayn websites without that. Also, you are once more asking a question in the wrong place, the Kubuntu-users are not the ones who make the website, that would be kubuntu-devel Please make sure to give a valid rationale why this should be made. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Sat Sep 25 03:54:43 2010 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:54:43 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice is really slow when saving a file Message-ID: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> Does anybody else have a problem with OpenOffice where it takes a couple of seconds for it to do anything after each mouse click when saving a file? When I save a file in Writer the save dialog comes up but is not entirely drawn for a few moments. Then when I change to a folder another few seconds. Then when I click on a file with a similar name to what I want, another few seconds. Using KDE 4.5.1 on Kubuntu 10.04 and OpenOffice 3.2 from the repros. I also am using the latest Nvidia driver from Nvidia, 256.53, and all the eye candy Kwin has to offer. It still happens when I turn it off so that is not the problem. Alan From gene.heskett at gmail.com Sat Sep 25 04:12:38 2010 From: gene.heskett at gmail.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 00:12:38 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice is really slow when saving a file In-Reply-To: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> References: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: <201009250012.38873.gene.heskett@gmail.com> On Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:04:51 am Alan Dacey did opine: > Does anybody else have a problem with OpenOffice where it takes a couple > of seconds for it to do anything after each mouse click when saving a > file? When I save a file in Writer the save dialog comes up but is not > entirely drawn for a few moments. Then when I change to a folder > another few seconds. Then when I click on a file with a similar name > to what I want, another few seconds. Using KDE 4.5.1 on Kubuntu 10.04 > and OpenOffice 3.2 from the repros. > I also am using the latest Nvidia driver from Nvidia, 256.53, and all > the eye candy Kwin has to offer. It still happens when I turn it off > so that is not the problem. > > Alan You didn't say what your hardware was, but those are classic symptoms of running from virtual memory, aka swap. I just installed 10.04 LTS on my milling machine, which only has half a gig of ram, and if it sits overnight, it will take several minutes to launch emc the next morning, but once its running, everything is fine. The old install of 6.06LTS, had no such problems ever. top or htop, which I like better, can show you if your are using swap memory. I just logged in and checked that machine, and it is 138 megs into swap right now. Ridiculous. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) I've enjoyed just about as much of this as I can stand. From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Sat Sep 25 05:01:10 2010 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 01:01:10 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice is really slow when saving a file In-Reply-To: <201009250012.38873.gene.heskett@gmail.com> References: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <201009250012.38873.gene.heskett@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201009250101.10845.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:12:38 am Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:04:51 am Alan Dacey did opine: > > > Does anybody else have a problem with OpenOffice where it takes a couple > > of seconds for it to do anything after each mouse click when saving a > > file? When I save a file in Writer the save dialog comes up but is not > > entirely drawn for a few moments. Then when I change to a folder > > another few seconds. Then when I click on a file with a similar name > > to what I want, another few seconds. Using KDE 4.5.1 on Kubuntu 10.04 > > and OpenOffice 3.2 from the repros. > > I also am using the latest Nvidia driver from Nvidia, 256.53, and all > > the eye candy Kwin has to offer. It still happens when I turn it off > > so that is not the problem. > > > > Alan > > You didn't say what your hardware was, but those are classic symptoms of > running from virtual memory, aka swap. I just installed 10.04 LTS on my > milling machine, which only has half a gig of ram, and if it sits > overnight, it will take several minutes to launch emc the next morning, but > once its running, everything is fine. The old install of 6.06LTS, had no > such problems ever. > > top or htop, which I like better, can show you if your are using swap > memory. > > I just logged in and checked that machine, and it is 138 megs into swap > right now. Ridiculous. > > I only see my swap used when I'm ripping a dvd and 7zip-ing at the same time. I've got 8 gigs ram, E8500 cpu @ 4.1ghz and an evga motherboard from 2008. The gpu is a gtx 260. It runs pretty well. It's the only thing that's slow and that makes the slowdown stand out. :( Alan From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Sat Sep 25 05:15:57 2010 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:15:57 +0700 Subject: OpenOffice is really slow when saving a file In-Reply-To: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> References: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Alan Dacey wrote: > > Does anybody else have a problem with OpenOffice where it takes a couple of > seconds for it to do anything after each mouse click when saving a file?  When > I save a file in Writer the save dialog comes up but is not entirely drawn for a > few moments.  Then when I change to a folder another few seconds.  Then when > I click on a file with a similar name to what I want, another few seconds. Probably a bad contact or failing harddisk. DK From rterry at pacific.net.au Sat Sep 25 05:41:15 2010 From: rterry at pacific.net.au (richard terry) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:41:15 +1000 Subject: OpenOffice is really slow when saving a file In-Reply-To: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> References: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: <201009251541.15830.rterry@pacific.net.au> On Saturday 25 September 2010 13:54:43 Alan Dacey wrote: > Does anybody else have a problem with OpenOffice where it takes a couple of > seconds for it to do anything after each mouse click when saving a file? > When I save a file in Writer the save dialog comes up but is not entirely > drawn for a few moments. Then when I change to a folder another few > seconds. Then when I click on a file with a similar name to what I want, > another few seconds. Using KDE 4.5.1 on Kubuntu 10.04 and OpenOffice 3.2 > from the repros. > I also am using the latest Nvidia driver from Nvidia, 256.53, and all the > eye candy Kwin has to offer. It still happens when I turn it off so that > is not the problem. > > Alan > This has been a long standing problem on my laptop , it only occurs when saving files in open office, is not swap, is not a failing HDD (new) and not lack of memory (4G). Love to here of a solution. REgards Richard From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat Sep 25 06:29:58 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:29:58 +1000 Subject: OpenOffice is really slow when saving a file In-Reply-To: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> References: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: <4C9D96E6.109@iinet.net.au> On 25/09/2010 13:54, Alan Dacey wrote: > Does anybody else have a problem with OpenOffice where it takes a couple of > seconds for it to do anything after each mouse click when saving a file? When > I save a file in Writer the save dialog comes up but is not entirely drawn for a > few moments. Then when I change to a folder another few seconds. Then when > I click on a file with a similar name to what I want, another few seconds. Using > KDE 4.5.1 on Kubuntu 10.04 and OpenOffice 3.2 from the repros. > I also am using the latest Nvidia driver from Nvidia, 256.53, and all the eye candy > Kwin has to offer. It still happens when I turn it off so that is not the problem. > > Alan > You know, this may be a complete piece of nonsense.....but are you using an optical wireless USB mouse which doesn't display any sign if the batteries are "dead"? While I have never had the problem you describe above with OpenOffice, yesterday I was working on another computer when apps took many seconds to respond - never happened before. I got a bit aggro about all this and sit the mouse on the desk - the mouse pointer disappeared. I looked at the botom of the mouse - and there was no indication that the mouse was "detecting" anything. Replaced the batteries...and everything went back to normal! :-) . As I stated, a silly notion, but.....? BC -- I didn't know it was impossible when I did it. From rterry at pacific.net.au Sat Sep 25 08:16:36 2010 From: rterry at pacific.net.au (richard terry) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:16:36 +1000 Subject: OpenOffice is really slow when saving a file In-Reply-To: <4C9D96E6.109@iinet.net.au> References: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <4C9D96E6.109@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <201009251816.36704.rterry@pacific.net.au> On Saturday 25 September 2010 16:29:58 Basil Chupin wrote: > On 25/09/2010 13:54, Alan Dacey wrote: > > Does anybody else have a problem with OpenOffice where it takes a couple > > of seconds for it to do anything after each mouse click when saving a > > file? When I save a file in Writer the save dialog comes up but is not > > entirely drawn for a few moments. Then when I change to a folder another > > few seconds. Then when I click on a file with a similar name to what I > > want, another few seconds. Using KDE 4.5.1 on Kubuntu 10.04 and > > OpenOffice 3.2 from the repros. > > I also am using the latest Nvidia driver from Nvidia, 256.53, and all the > > eye candy Kwin has to offer. It still happens when I turn it off so that > > is not the problem. > > > > Alan > > You know, this may be a complete piece of nonsense.....but are you using > an optical wireless USB mouse which doesn't display any sign if the > batteries are "dead"? > > While I have never had the problem you describe above with OpenOffice, > yesterday I was working on another computer when apps took many seconds > to respond - never happened before. I got a bit aggro about all this and > sit the mouse on the desk - the mouse pointer disappeared. I looked at > the botom of the mouse - and there was no indication that the mouse was > "detecting" anything. Replaced the batteries...and everything went back > to normal! :-) . > > As I stated, a silly notion, but.....? > > BC > No, my mouse is wired From claydoh at claydoh.com Sat Sep 25 13:01:12 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:01:12 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice is really slow when saving a file In-Reply-To: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> References: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: <201009250901.13490.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Friday, September 24, 2010 11:54:43 pm Alan Dacey wrote: > Does anybody else have a problem with OpenOffice where it takes a couple of > seconds for it to do anything after each mouse click when saving a file? > When I save a file in Writer the save dialog comes up but is not entirely > drawn for a few moments. Then when I change to a folder another few > seconds. Then when I click on a file with a similar name to what I want, > another few seconds. Using KDE 4.5.1 on Kubuntu 10.04 and OpenOffice 3.2 > from the repros. > I also am using the latest Nvidia driver from Nvidia, 256.53, and all the > eye candy Kwin has to offer. It still happens when I turn it off so that > is not the problem. > > Alan It may be the KDE integration http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32784 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/590406 you could try uninstalling the package openoffice.org-kde. This will revert back to the standard openoffice file dialogs and theme, however. Clay From adil at alpman.net Sat Sep 25 19:03:08 2010 From: adil at alpman.net (Adil ALPMAN) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:03:08 +0300 Subject: Connect Internet From My Laptop Message-ID: <4C9E476C.5010801@alpman.net> Hi Everybody; I have Samsung D880 mobile gsm phone and i can use it as a modem with bluetooth connection and i can connect to internet with it (use as a modem) I wanna do that in kubuntu 10.04 but i dont know how can i do that... I have just installed gsm-utils package via synaptic but i cant use that what i want... I can connect my phone with KBluetooth but i cant do anything more than that... Can anybody help me how can i do that My lspci output; 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2) 00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2) 00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2) 00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2) 00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2) 00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2) 00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2) 00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce Go 6100] (rev a2) 00:09.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Host Bridge (rev a2) 00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 LPC Bridge (rev a3) 00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP51 SMBus (rev a3) 00:0a.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PMU (rev a3) 00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3) 00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3) 00:0d.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 IDE (rev a1) 00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller (rev a1) 00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PCI Bridge (rev a2) 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2) 00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a3) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control My lsusb output; Bus 002 Device 003: ID 03f0:8107 Hewlett-Packard Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode) Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0db0:6877 Micro Star International RT2573 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Thanks everybody... Adil ALPMAN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john_re at fastmail.us Sat Sep 25 19:32:44 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:32:44 -0700 Subject: kubuntu.org -> wiki: Too many intermediate links, bad website design, Fix would be great. :) ; jor In-Reply-To: <201009240846.46290.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <1285300835.18253.1396634653@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201009240846.46290.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <1285443164.27285.1396864565@webmail.messagingengine.com> Clay - thanks for the suggestion. I'll send it to the kubuntu-devel list. I think it is truly a tragedy (admittedly minor, but tragic nontheless) that apparently the relevant developers don't monitor this ku-user list, so that user level concerns could get an answer for all the users to see, from the relevant website & wiki developers. Hopefully such developers will read this, & decide to monitor the ku-user list more. :) On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:46:45 -0400, "Clay Weber" said: > On Friday, September 24, 2010 12:00:35 am giovanni_re wrote: > > Hi kubuntu.org website developers - thanks for all your great work. :) > > > > == > > Here's a test for you to see how difficult the current website is for > > new kubuntu users: > > > > Find several friends or acquaintances who don't use GNU(Linux) yet, but > > might be interested. (3-4 should be sufficient.) > > > > Ask them to do you this favor: > > > > 1) Go to kubuntu.com > > 2) By simply reading the webisite (ie, not doing a search) & clicking on > > links, find the kubuntu.com main wiki page. > > > > 3) For you, website developer: > > 3a) Time how long it takes them, & > > 3b) count how many web pages they had to open & read. > > > > Anyone reading this list care to try that & post here the results? > > > > == > > KUbuntu website developers: > > 1) Is it on the todo list to make it easier for people to find the > > KUbuntu wiki? > > 2) Any idea when that will be done? > > > > > > Thanks :) > > > > > > > > This is probably better directed to the kubuntu-devel list, > Why would a new user, generally speaking, need to use the kubuntu or > ubuntu > wiki? Clay - Need? - "gain benefit from" is both 1) the relevant question, 2) and the answer. BTW, the kubuntu wiki fails to be the wiki it should be: on its page it says it is about development, but it should actually be about _all_ aspects of KUbuntu, not _merely_ development. This is a bad/unhelpful/harmful_to_the_KUbuntu_community reality: "STOP This is the place for people willing to help to improve Ubuntu. If you are looking for user help related documentation you are in the wrong place." https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ The wiki's _#1_MAIN_PURPOSE_ should be for "user help related documentation". Hopefully, both the a) purpose, & b) description on the wiki.kubuntu.com/org page can be updated soon to represent that better reality. :) > All the actual Actual, though incomplete. Because there is no 1) KUbuntu wiki (you know ubuntu is not kubuntu) 2) and it should be listed on the main KUbuntu.com page (Kubuntu.com, [& kubuntu.org], because ubuntu has ubuntu.com. & ubuntu.org is not the same organization.) > support areas are listed in the support page - > help.ubuntu.com the correct wiki for that right in the support page. > > (not that there shouldn't be a link to the regular wiki, though) Absolutely correct you are, Clay, right there. :) == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From john_re at fastmail.us Sun Sep 26 01:20:43 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:20:43 -0700 Subject: Fwd: Re: kubuntu.org -> wiki: - wiki should be for anything, including support - Too many intermediate links, bad website design, Fix would be great. :) ; jor kubuntu-users Message-ID: <1285464043.17220.1396890309@webmail.messagingengine.com> Forwarding, because this is of HIGH importance for KUbuntu USERS, and this discussion should really be here on the main list that _Users_ read - but, of course, I can't control that the developers don't reply to this topic on this kubuntu user help list. KUbuntu developers, please raise your consciousness level, & address this important issue, which is relevant to help for _all_ kubuntu users, on this kubuntu users help list. Thank you. Best wishes to all. :) == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ ----- Original message ----- To: "Kubuntu Developer Discussion" Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:10:25 -0700 Ofir - thanks for your input. :) On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:26:33 +0200, "Ofir Klinger" said: > Hi, > > In my opinion, the wiki itself shouldn't be used for support and/or help. > Instead, http://help.ubuntu.com/ should be used for this purpose. My belief is that the world would be much better if 1) there was a kubuntu wiki, 2) which was used for whatever any KUbuntu community member wished to use it for, relative to kubuntu. And that is about all the "rules" or "requirements" there should be for the wiki, other than the standard ubuntu code of conduct. Anything else lowers the total value of the kubuntu community. Putting in some requirement such as you've suggested, "the wiki itself shouldn't be used for support and/or help", only dumbs down the KUbuntu community, to something below what the maximum potential of what the kubuntu community could achieve. == Ofir: I request you please rethink your position in light of that information, & please let us know here on this list if you can see the importance, value & truth in those above points. Thanks, Ofir, & best wishes to all. :) > > I don't think the wiki should be linked from the top menu, since it > doesn't > have a clear purpose. Ofir - any wiki has a clear purpose: to be a wiki. No wiki needs any "clear purpose" other than to be a wiki, for any particular topic, such as, in this case, to be a wiki for the KUbuntu community. > New users will get confused from > the wiki, and I think it is better for them to read the information in > the > website. Ofir, I hope you don't really think that. That implies a horribly low estimation for the new KUbuntu user's intelligence. Ofir, I hope you really don't think new KUbuntu users are that stupid. I certainly think they are surely intelligent enough to not get confused by a wiki. After all, they are smart enough to be interested in _K_Ubuntu. :) > > Ofir From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Sep 26 01:43:51 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:43:51 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Re: kubuntu.org -> wiki: - wiki should be for anything, including support - Too many intermediate links, bad website design, Fix would be great. :) ; jor kubuntu-users In-Reply-To: <1285464043.17220.1396890309@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1285464043.17220.1396890309@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201009252143.52372.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Saturday, September 25, 2010 09:20:43 pm giovanni_re wrote: > Forwarding, because this is of HIGH importance for KUbuntu USERS, and > this discussion should really be here on the main list that _Users_ read > - but, of course, I can't control that the developers don't reply to > this topic on this kubuntu user help list. > > KUbuntu developers, please raise your consciousness level, & address > this important issue, which is relevant to help for _all_ kubuntu users, > on this kubuntu users help list. > > Thank you. Best wishes to all. :) > ANYONE is free to join the -devel list and discuss it there. HERE is generally for use- to-user support. My reply as both a Kubuntu user and Kubuntu-member will be on the -devel list Clay From john_re at fastmail.us Sun Sep 26 01:54:49 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:54:49 -0700 Subject: Fwd: Re: kubuntu.org -> wiki: - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu - Too... Fix would be great. :) ; jor KU-user Message-ID: <1285466089.21322.1396892823@webmail.messagingengine.com> Fwd due to help importance & understanding for all ku users. == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ ----- Original message ----- To: "Kubuntu Developer Discussion" Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:50:58 -0700 Actually, I think the proper placement is: that on http://www.kubuntu.org/support there should be a section "Kubuntu Wiki" as the #2 item on the page, between "Access Free Documentation" & "Community Help". And the "KUbuntu wiki" section should link to this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu And, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu should _not_ start out saying: "Welcome to the Kubuntu team's home on the Ubuntu wiki." But should say something closer to: "Welcome to the KUbuntu section of the Ubuntu wiki. This is the main/home page for all wiki information pertaining to any & every thing about both 1) The KUbuntu system, & 2) The KUbuntu community." From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun Sep 26 01:58:31 2010 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 11:58:31 +1000 Subject: JYA Repos? Message-ID: <201009261158.32076.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> I've been using the avenard repos for a while now - and thank you very much Jean-Yves! What I was wondering - is there a pressing reason to keep doing so now? 0.23 is well and truely out and VDPAU is well integrated in the main branches. Are the avenard repos still kept upt to adte or should I switch back to the mybuntu ones? Thanks, -- Lindsay http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Sep 26 02:00:21 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:00:21 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Re: kubuntu.org -> wiki: - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu - Too... Fix would be great. :) ; jor KU-user In-Reply-To: <1285466089.21322.1396892823@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1285466089.21322.1396892823@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201009252200.22099.claydoh@claydoh.com> Please stop cross-posting. clay On Saturday, September 25, 2010 09:54:49 pm giovanni_re wrote: > Fwd due to help importance & understanding for all ku users. > > > > == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & > Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ > > ----- Original message ----- > To: "Kubuntu Developer Discussion" > Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:50:58 -0700 > > Actually, I think the proper placement is: that on > http://www.kubuntu.org/support > > there should be a section > "Kubuntu Wiki" > as the #2 item on the page, > > between > "Access Free Documentation" & > "Community Help". > > And the "KUbuntu wiki" section should link to this page: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu > > > And, > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu > should _not_ start out saying: > "Welcome to the Kubuntu team's home on the Ubuntu wiki." > > But should say something closer to: > "Welcome to the KUbuntu section of the Ubuntu wiki. This is the > main/home page for all wiki information pertaining to any & every thing > about both 1) The KUbuntu system, & 2) The KUbuntu community." From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Sep 26 02:11:52 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:11:52 -0400 Subject: JYA Repos? In-Reply-To: <201009261158.32076.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <201009261158.32076.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201009252211.52699.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Saturday, September 25, 2010 09:58:31 pm Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > I've been using the avenard repos for a while now - and thank you very much > Jean-Yves! > > > What I was wondering - is there a pressing reason to keep doing so now? > 0.23 is well and truely out and VDPAU is well integrated in the main > branches. Are the avenard repos still kept upt to adte or should I switch > back to the mybuntu ones? > > Thanks, No idea what jya or avenard are, tbh, or mybuntu ;) Clay From john_re at fastmail.us Sun Sep 26 02:13:21 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:13:21 -0700 Subject: Fwd: Re: kubuntu.org -> wiki: - Diffence between "cross posting" & "forwarding" - Too... Fix would be great. :) ; jor KU-user In-Reply-To: <201009252200.22099.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <1285466089.21322.1396892823@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201009252200.22099.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <1285467201.23013.1396893821@webmail.messagingengine.com> Thanks for your suggestion, Clay. :) I am not cross posting. I am forwarding a message. There is both: 1) An important distinction/differnence between the two concepts, and 2) an important _reason_ why I _forwarded_ the messages I forwarded. Clay - if you are unclear as to the distinction, & importance: if you wish, reply to the list here, & let us know, & hopefully someone here will be able to provide explication. Thanks, & best wishes to all. :) On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:00:21 -0400, "Clay Weber" said: > Please stop cross-posting. > > clay > > On Saturday, September 25, 2010 09:54:49 pm giovanni_re wrote: > > Fwd due to help importance & understanding for all ku users. > > > > > > > > == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & > > Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ > > > > ----- Original message ----- > > To: "Kubuntu Developer Discussion" > > Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:50:58 -0700 > > > > Actually, I think the proper placement is: that on > > http://www.kubuntu.org/support ... == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Sep 26 02:16:44 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:16:44 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Re: kubuntu.org -> wiki: - Diffence between "cross posting" & "forwarding" - Too... Fix would be great. :) ; jor KU-user In-Reply-To: <1285467201.23013.1396893821@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1285466089.21322.1396892823@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201009252200.22099.claydoh@claydoh.com> <1285467201.23013.1396893821@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201009252216.45165.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:13:21 pm giovanni_re wrote: > Thanks for your suggestion, Clay. :) > > I am not cross posting. > > I am forwarding a message. > > There is both: > 1) An important distinction/differnence between the two concepts, and > 2) an important _reason_ why I _forwarded_ the messages I forwarded. > > Clay - if you are unclear as to the distinction, & importance: > if you wish, reply to the list here, & let us know, > & hopefully someone here will be able to provide explication. > > I am quite clear on it clay From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Sep 26 02:37:39 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:37:39 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Re: kubuntu.org -> wiki: - Diffence between "cross posting" & "forwarding" - Too... Fix would be great. :) ; jor KU-user In-Reply-To: <1285467201.23013.1396893821@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1285466089.21322.1396892823@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201009252200.22099.claydoh@claydoh.com> <1285467201.23013.1396893821@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201009252237.39890.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:13:21 pm giovanni_re wrote: > Thanks for your suggestion, Clay. :) > > I am not cross posting. > > I am forwarding a message. > > There is both: > 1) An important distinction/differnence between the two concepts, and > 2) an important _reason_ why I _forwarded_ the messages I forwarded. > > Clay - if you are unclear as to the distinction, & importance: > if you wish, reply to the list here, & let us know, > & hopefully someone here will be able to provide explication. > > > Thanks, & best wishes to all. :) Ok then: Please stop forwarding messages then. Semantics aside, you are sending duplicate mails to multiple lists, meaning many people are getting double the email with duplicate content from the same person Invite people to join the discussion on kubuntu-devel instead clay From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun Sep 26 03:22:18 2010 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:22:18 +1000 Subject: JYA Repos? In-Reply-To: <201009252211.52699.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <201009261158.32076.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <201009252211.52699.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <201009261322.19199.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:11:52 pm Clay Weber wrote: > No idea what jya or avenard are, tbh, or mybuntu ;) Sorry! wrong mailing list. Meant to post to myth-users -- Lindsay http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Sun Sep 26 15:21:03 2010 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 11:21:03 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice is really slow when saving a file In-Reply-To: <4C9D96E6.109@iinet.net.au> References: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <4C9D96E6.109@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <201009261121.04140.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Saturday, September 25, 2010 02:29:58 am Basil Chupin wrote: > On 25/09/2010 13:54, Alan Dacey wrote: > > Does anybody else have a problem with OpenOffice where it takes a couple of > > seconds for it to do anything after each mouse click when saving a file? When > > I save a file in Writer the save dialog comes up but is not entirely drawn for a > > few moments. Then when I change to a folder another few seconds. Then when > > I click on a file with a similar name to what I want, another few seconds. Using > > KDE 4.5.1 on Kubuntu 10.04 and OpenOffice 3.2 from the repros. > > I also am using the latest Nvidia driver from Nvidia, 256.53, and all the eye candy > > Kwin has to offer. It still happens when I turn it off so that is not the problem. > > > > Alan > > > > You know, this may be a complete piece of nonsense.....but are you using > an optical wireless USB mouse which doesn't display any sign if the > batteries are "dead"? > > While I have never had the problem you describe above with OpenOffice, > yesterday I was working on another computer when apps took many seconds > to respond - never happened before. I got a bit aggro about all this and > sit the mouse on the desk - the mouse pointer disappeared. I looked at > the botom of the mouse - and there was no indication that the mouse was > "detecting" anything. Replaced the batteries...and everything went back > to normal! :-) . > > As I stated, a silly notion, but.....? > > BC > > Not the mouse, it's the program or the graphics, I think. Alan From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Sun Sep 26 15:26:10 2010 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 11:26:10 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice is really slow when saving a file In-Reply-To: <201009250901.13490.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <201009250901.13490.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <201009261126.10891.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Saturday, September 25, 2010 09:01:12 am Clay Weber wrote: > On Friday, September 24, 2010 11:54:43 pm Alan Dacey wrote: > > Does anybody else have a problem with OpenOffice where it takes a couple of > > seconds for it to do anything after each mouse click when saving a file? > > When I save a file in Writer the save dialog comes up but is not entirely > > drawn for a few moments. Then when I change to a folder another few > > seconds. Then when I click on a file with a similar name to what I want, > > another few seconds. Using KDE 4.5.1 on Kubuntu 10.04 and OpenOffice 3.2 > > from the repros. > > I also am using the latest Nvidia driver from Nvidia, 256.53, and all the > > eye candy Kwin has to offer. It still happens when I turn it off so that > > is not the problem. > > > > Alan > > It may be the KDE integration > http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32784 > https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/590406 > you could try uninstalling the package openoffice.org-kde. This will revert back > to the standard openoffice file dialogs and theme, however. > > Clay > > i didn't think about that. The thing is I would rather have a slow save than the uglyness of GTK. It looks like somehting out of the 90's no matter how much you dress it up. Thanks for the links. Alan From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Sep 26 18:50:15 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh at claydoh.com) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:50:15 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice is really slow when saving a file In-Reply-To: <201009261126.10891.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> References: <201009242354.43432.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <201009250901.13490.claydoh@claydoh.com> <201009261126.10891.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: > On Saturday, September 25, 2010 09:01:12 am Clay Weber wrote: >> On Friday, September 24, 2010 11:54:43 pm Alan Dacey wrote: >> > Does anybody else have a problem with OpenOffice where it takes a >> couple of >> > seconds for it to do anything after each mouse click when saving a >> file? >> > When I save a file in Writer the save dialog comes up but is not >> entirely >> > drawn for a few moments. Then when I change to a folder another few >> > seconds. Then when I click on a file with a similar name to what I >> want, >> > another few seconds. Using KDE 4.5.1 on Kubuntu 10.04 and OpenOffice >> 3.2 >> > from the repros. >> > I also am using the latest Nvidia driver from Nvidia, 256.53, and all >> the >> > eye candy Kwin has to offer. It still happens when I turn it off so >> that >> > is not the problem. >> > >> > Alan >> >> It may be the KDE integration >> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32784 >> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/590406 >> you could try uninstalling the package openoffice.org-kde. This will >> revert back >> to the standard openoffice file dialogs and theme, however. >> >> Clay >> >> > > i didn't think about that. The thing is I would rather have a slow save > than the > uglyness of GTK. It looks like somehting out of the 90's no matter how > much > you dress it up. > > Thanks for the links. > > Alan > > --. You could also replace it using openoffice's own packages - it should look better I think (it did last time I used it that way, but that was back in the Hardy days). Clay From ulysses at kubuntu.org Sun Sep 26 21:08:42 2010 From: ulysses at kubuntu.org (=?UTF-8?Q?Krist=C3=B3f_Kiszel?=) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 23:08:42 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Team Report for September Message-ID: Hello again, we have one week to write our monthly report[1], edit the wiki page if you think something should be mentioned to the Ubuntu world. Kristóf Kiszel (ulysses) [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/TeamReports From cgrinter at orcon.net.nz Mon Sep 27 06:44:33 2010 From: cgrinter at orcon.net.nz (Charles Ronald Grinter) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:44:33 +1300 Subject: OpenOffice is really slow when saving a file Message-ID: <4CA03D51.6050604@orcon.net.nz> I have had this problem with OpenOffice. It's usually because I have been using a lot of cutting, copying etc. I find that if I clear the history for Klipper then everything runs ok once more. -- May Peace be always yours, Charles cgrinter at orcon.net.nz Occasional Poet and Thinker "There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe in impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." - Lewis Carroll from 'Alice in Wonderland.' From oub at mat.ucm.es Mon Sep 27 10:20:44 2010 From: oub at mat.ucm.es (Uwe Brauer) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:20:44 +0200 Subject: hardware, list of compatible servers Message-ID: <87d3rzxzb7.fsf@gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es> Hello So far I have only installed (K)ubuntu (or Linux in general) on PC with the X86 architecture. Most likely I have to try a server (whose architecture is different from the Intel PC I presume), for example a Lenovo ThinkServer TS200v 0981. Can anybody please point me out a web site (like Linux on laptops ) or a list, which gives information about the Linux compatibility of these servers? thanks Uwe Brauer From bilwalsh at swbell.net Mon Sep 27 19:39:21 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:39:21 -0500 Subject: Samba and Work Group Message-ID: <4CA0F2E9.9050602@swbell.net> Once upon a time there was Samba configuration tools in System Settings. Whatever happened to them? How do you set the "Work Group" for the network? -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Mon Sep 27 19:45:57 2010 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Samba and Work Group In-Reply-To: <4CA0F2E9.9050602@swbell.net> Message-ID: <1442957667.2469853.1285616757364.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> sudo apt-get install system-config-samba ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billie Walsh" To: "Kubuntu user technical support" Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 3:39:21 PM Subject: Samba and Work Group Once upon a time there was Samba configuration tools in System Settings. Whatever happened to them? How do you set the "Work Group" for the network? -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Sep 27 19:57:42 2010 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:57:42 -0400 Subject: Samba and Work Group In-Reply-To: <4CA0F2E9.9050602@swbell.net> References: <4CA0F2E9.9050602@swbell.net> Message-ID: <201009271557.42963.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Monday, September 27, 2010, Billie Walsh wrote: > How do you set the "Work Group" for the network? Same as you would on Windows..... I use 'PEER' as my workgroup for all Windows and Linux machines. Make something up if you have no Windows machines. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Mon Sep 27 21:02:44 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:02:44 -0500 Subject: Samba and Work Group In-Reply-To: <201009271557.42963.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <4CA0F2E9.9050602@swbell.net> <201009271557.42963.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <4CA10674.7030903@swbell.net> On 09/27/2010 02:57 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday, September 27, 2010, Billie Walsh wrote: > >> How do you set the "Work Group" for the network? >> > Same as you would on Windows..... I use 'PEER' as my workgroup for all > Windows and Linux machines. > > Make something up if you have no Windows machines. > > I can't find any place to enter it. Or, where it shows the name of the workgroup it's set up in. Under Network and Connectivity in System Settings there's Network Settings and Sharing. Neither has anything in them of interest. Knetworkmanager doesn't have anything useful either. It seems to me that that sort of stuff used to be in Samba Configuration/Settings but I can't find anything for that. -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Mon Sep 27 21:33:37 2010 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:33:37 -0400 Subject: hardware, list of compatible servers In-Reply-To: <87d3rzxzb7.fsf@gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es> References: <87d3rzxzb7.fsf@gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es> Message-ID: <201009271733.37560.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Monday, September 27, 2010 06:20:44 am Uwe Brauer wrote: > Hello > > So far I have only installed (K)ubuntu (or Linux in general) > on PC with the X86 architecture. > > Most likely I have to try a server (whose architecture is > different from the Intel PC I presume), for example a > > Lenovo ThinkServer TS200v 0981. > > Can anybody please point me out a web site (like Linux on > laptops ) or a list, which gives information about the Linux > compatibility of these servers? > > thanks > > Uwe Brauer > > Don't look at the server itself, look at the parts that make the server. A quick search on the net found that it comes with an Intel cpu, no problem there. Intel graphics should be no problem for server duties, if you even install a desktop. What you need to look at is the other parts like what chipsets make the nic run. I don't feel like downloading this [1] so look at the specs and google each one with "linux" after it. That will tell you about it. Probably no poroblems, but I don't have one so I'm not sure. [1] http://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/svbook.pdf Alan From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Sep 27 22:25:05 2010 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:25:05 -0400 Subject: Samba and Work Group In-Reply-To: <4CA10674.7030903@swbell.net> References: <4CA0F2E9.9050602@swbell.net> <201009271557.42963.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <4CA10674.7030903@swbell.net> Message-ID: <201009271825.05465.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Monday, September 27, 2010, Billie Walsh wrote: > On 09/27/2010 02:57 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > On Monday, September 27, 2010, Billie Walsh wrote: > >> How do you set the "Work Group" for the network? > > > > Same as you would on Windows..... I use 'PEER' as my workgroup for all > > Windows and Linux machines. > > > > Make something up if you have no Windows machines. > > I can't find any place to enter it. Or, where it shows the name of the > workgroup it's set up in. Under Network and Connectivity in System > Settings there's Network Settings and Sharing. Neither has anything in > them of interest. Knetworkmanager doesn't have anything useful either. > > It seems to me that that sort of stuff used to be in Samba > Configuration/Settings but I can't find anything for that. From /etc/samba/smb.conf (near the top) #======================= Global Settings ======================= [global] ## Browsing/Identification ### # Change this to the workgroup/NT-domain name your Samba server will part of workgroup = PEER From bilwalsh at swbell.net Mon Sep 27 22:45:23 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:45:23 -0500 Subject: Samba and Work Group In-Reply-To: <201009271825.05465.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <4CA0F2E9.9050602@swbell.net> <201009271557.42963.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <4CA10674.7030903@swbell.net> <201009271825.05465.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <4CA11E83.3080001@swbell.net> On 09/27/2010 05:25 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday, September 27, 2010, Billie Walsh wrote: > >> On 09/27/2010 02:57 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >> >>> On Monday, September 27, 2010, Billie Walsh wrote: >>> >>>> How do you set the "Work Group" for the network? >>>> >>> Same as you would on Windows..... I use 'PEER' as my workgroup for all >>> Windows and Linux machines. >>> >>> Make something up if you have no Windows machines. >>> >> I can't find any place to enter it. Or, where it shows the name of the >> workgroup it's set up in. Under Network and Connectivity in System >> Settings there's Network Settings and Sharing. Neither has anything in >> them of interest. Knetworkmanager doesn't have anything useful either. >> >> It seems to me that that sort of stuff used to be in Samba >> Configuration/Settings but I can't find anything for that. >> > > From /etc/samba/smb.conf (near the top) > > #======================= Global Settings ======================= > > [global] > > ## Browsing/Identification ### > > # Change this to the workgroup/NT-domain name your Samba server will part of > workgroup = PEER > > > > Thanks, That helps. -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington From jcunning at cunning.ods.org Mon Sep 27 22:59:50 2010 From: jcunning at cunning.ods.org (Jim Cunning) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:59:50 -0700 Subject: Thunderbird won't open http: links in firefox Message-ID: <4CA121E6.4060209@cunning.ods.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am having trouble getting thunderbird to open firefox when I click on http: links in mail messages. 1. I've set the following in prefs.js: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.https", "/usr/bin/firefox"); user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", "/usr/bin/firefox"); 2. I've set firefox as my default browser in Menu->System Settings->Default Applications 3. I have installed firefox-gnome-support. When I click on an http: or https: link, thunderbird displays the "finger pointing" cursor and outlines the link, but does nothing else. When I right click on the link in the message, I get a pop-up with choices for "Select All", "Convert to->", Copy Link Location", "Save Link Target", and "Report E-mail Scam". There is no choice like "Open with..." What do I need to add or select in KDE, firefox, or thunderbird to get this to work? Thanks, Jim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkyhIeYACgkQUNDOODpQvpJUBwCfaxww8OVdf0vlh7JYy8D5boTL PAUAn3c4vqKw4MU4a0nG0/jrCohphiod =dUcB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From helder.earth at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 23:43:30 2010 From: helder.earth at gmail.com (Helder Terra) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:43:30 -0300 Subject: Samba and Work Group In-Reply-To: <1442957667.2469853.1285616757364.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1442957667.2469853.1285616757364.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4CA12C22.2010709@gmail.com> I've just tried sudo apt-get install system-config-samba, and it didn't work. Instead, the icon doesn't open on KDE, and I get the following message at the terminal: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/system-config-samba", line 44, in import mainWindow File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/mainWindow.py", line 30, in import gtk.glade ImportError: No module named glade Coud someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, Helder Terra Em 27-09-2010 16:45, pkaplan1 at comcast.net escreveu: > sudo apt-get install system-config-samba > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Billie Walsh" > To: "Kubuntu user technical support" > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 3:39:21 PM > Subject: Samba and Work Group > > Once upon a time there was Samba configuration tools in System Settings. > Whatever happened to them? > > How do you set the "Work Group" for the network? > > -- > "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." 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URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 28 00:02:56 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:02:56 -0400 Subject: Samba and Work Group In-Reply-To: <4CA0F2E9.9050602@swbell.net> References: <4CA0F2E9.9050602@swbell.net> Message-ID: <201009272002.56336.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Monday, September 27, 2010 08:02:11 pm Billie Walsh did opine: > Once upon a time there was Samba configuration tools in System Settings. > Whatever happened to them? > > How do you set the "Work Group" for the network? sudo vim /etc/samba/smb.conf. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) And this is good old Boston, The home of the bean and the cod, Where the Lowells talk only to Cabots, And the Cabots talk only to God. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 06:35:13 2010 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 08:35:13 +0200 Subject: Samba and Work Group In-Reply-To: <4CA12C22.2010709@gmail.com> References: <1442957667.2469853.1285616757364.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4CA12C22.2010709@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4CA18CA1.6060502@gmail.com> On 28/09/2010 01:43, Helder Terra wrote: > I've just tried sudo apt-get install system-config-samba, and it didn't > work. Instead, the icon doesn't open on KDE, and I get the following > message at the terminal: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/sbin/system-config-samba", line 44, in > import mainWindow > File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/mainWindow.py", line 30, in > import gtk.glade > ImportError: No module named glade > > Coud someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? > For me it showed up on the menu "Settings" but the start command is wrong as it calls for "gksu" that you/we should not have. Use the menu editor to change the start command from gksu to kdesudo and it works. At least for me... Sinclair From bqz69 at telia.com Tue Sep 28 08:36:42 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 08:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: When adding an attachment in kmail it shows it as a screenshot of a directory References: <201009231129.25182.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: > Please check your file associations, maybe there is something wrong for > jpeg files and they are associated with directories. I can send attachments with thunderbird without problems. >Another option > would be to close kmail and make a backup of your $HOME/.kde/ directory > where KDE configurations are stored and then remove the file > "$HOME/.kde/share/config/kmailrc". Then you would start kmail from > scratch (at least partly) and you would probably have to configure all > your kmail settings again. I just removed kmailrc, but the problem is still there. Yesterday i could not forward a mail, that's why I tried to remove kmailrc, to fix both problems, and the forward thing now seems to work again?? :-( From tteodorr at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 14:22:22 2010 From: tteodorr at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?0KTRkdC00L7RgCDQn9C10YLRgNC+0LI=?=) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:22:22 +0400 Subject: problem with kde Message-ID: there is a problem with qtcurve theme of gtk in several programs. And alsow I wanted to say about vlc player: there is a blinking of the screen in fullscreen mode when you moove the mouse. and there are less video settings then in one of the previos versions (I dont remember in wich distro this good version was in mint9 or ubuntu ultimate 2.7) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It is assigned by udev as: Sep 28 10:42:45 coyote klogd: usb 1-10.4.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 54 Sep 28 10:42:45 coyote klogd: usb 1-10.4.1: New USB device found, idVendor=046d, idProduct=08a2 Sep 28 10:42:45 coyote klogd: usb 1-10.4.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 Sep 28 10:42:45 coyote klogd: gspca: main v2.9.0 registered Sep 28 10:42:45 coyote klogd: gspca: probing 046d:08a2 Sep 28 10:42:45 coyote klogd: zc3xx: probe sensor -> 000e Sep 28 10:42:45 coyote klogd: zc3xx: Find Sensor PAS202B Sep 28 10:42:45 coyote klogd: input: zc3xx as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10.4/1-10.4.1/input/input5 Sep 28 10:42:45 coyote klogd: gspca: video1 created Sep 28 10:42:45 coyote klogd: gspca: found int in endpoint: 0x82, buffer_len=8, interval=10 Sep 28 10:42:45 coyote klogd: gspca: probing 046d:08a2 Sep 28 10:42:45 coyote klogd: gspca: probing 046d:08a2 Sep 28 10:42:45 coyote klogd: usbcore: registered new interface driver zc3xx Sep 28 10:42:45 coyote klogd: zc3xx: registered If I "cat /dev/video1" it is outputting data. Does anyone have a spare clue as to what viewer works? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) When you say that you agree to a thing in principle, you mean that you have not the slightest intention of carrying it out in practice. -- Otto Von Bismarck From msh at farsight-data.com Tue Sep 28 15:31:31 2010 From: msh at farsight-data.com (FarSight Data Systems) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:31:31 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? Message-ID: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's giving me problems. So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and I've tried) with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using Linux Mint 7 on desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) might be upgrading to Kubuntu 10.04 all around. So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a definite working flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) Price at or under $150 USB 2.0 Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Tue Sep 28 15:54:23 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:54:23 +0200 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201009281754.23552.kassube@gmx.net> gene heskett wrote: > I pulled out an old Labtec usb camera this morning to see if it would > work any better on a full speed usb2.0 circuit. But I don't know > what display program to use. It is assigned by udev as: > If I "cat /dev/video1" it is outputting data. > > Does anyone have a spare clue as to what viewer works? Try cheese from the package with the same name. Nils From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue Sep 28 16:15:41 2010 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:15:41 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> Message-ID: <201009281215.42107.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:31:31 am FarSight Data Systems wrote: > I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's giving me > problems. > > So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and I've > tried) with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using Linux > Mint 7 on desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) might be > upgrading to Kubuntu 10.04 all around. > > So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: > > Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a definite > working flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) > > Price at or under $150 > > USB 2.0 > > Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) > > Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? > > Mark I suggest looking at http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html and http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl I am not sure how up-to-date these are, but the info is accurate. It can take time for newer scanner models to get support, sometimes it even takes a while for less new models. But searching by model/make should be good, but the listings may be valid for only the very latest sane version, I don't quickly see a way to easily determine that. Your Canon scanner is supposed to be supported in the currrent sane version, so my guess is the version of sane in Lucid is not quite new enough to have this recently-added device support. (it is one version back from sane's current version) There is a ppa with the newest sane for Lucid: https://edge.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/+archive/sane-backends Might be worth checking out before buying a new one. Very few scanners advertise linux support up front, unfortunately. And even in those companies that do have great Linux support (iirc Epson and HP), not all their models do depending on the scanner chipsets used. I currently have a cheap Canon LiDE 25 flatbed that works fine, though I don't believe it is made anymore. It uses the 'plustek' backend. I definitely goes higher than 600 dpi, tho I am sure most do nowdays. Clay From mdhirsch at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 16:21:50 2010 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:21:50 -0600 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:06 AM, gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I pulled out an old Labtec usb camera this morning to see if it would work > any better on a full speed usb2.0 circuit.  But I don't know what display > program to use. Kopete will show your camera image. In the Settings there is a tab for video that lets you see your camera's image. Unless you have a partner to talk with, you can't do much else with the camera in kopete, however. But it is nice for a quick check if you are like me and kopete is always running. Michael From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 28 16:33:04 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:33:04 -0400 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <201009281754.23552.kassube@gmx.net> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281754.23552.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201009281233.04206.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 12:10:15 pm Nils Kassube did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > I pulled out an old Labtec usb camera this morning to see if it would > > work any better on a full speed usb2.0 circuit. But I don't know > > what display program to use. It is assigned by udev as: > > > > If I "cat /dev/video1" it is outputting data. > > > > Does anyone have a spare clue as to what viewer works? > > Try cheese from the package with the same name. > Downloading now, thanks. But its not working at all well although the color is better than it was 4 years ago. Only the top 1/4th of the frame is anywhere near real time, and the shell I launched it from is getting about 8 lines a second of this: libv4lconvert: Error decompressing JPEG: fill_nbits error: need 2 more bits libv4lconvert: Error decompressing JPEG: fill_nbits error: need 2 more bits libv4lconvert: Error decompressing JPEG: fill_nbits error: need 9 more bits libv4lconvert: Error decompressing JPEG: fill_nbits error: need 1 more bits libv4lconvert: Error decompressing JPEG: fill_nbits error: need 2 more bits libv4lconvert: Error decompressing JPEG: fill_nbits error: need 4 more bits libv4lconvert: Error decompressing JPEG: fill_nbits error: need 4 more bits Is usb dropping the ball or ?? might be the problem? It is plugged into a powered hub an additional hub tier away from the motherboard's port. I have so many usb devices, the motherboard would nee to have about 32 ports if all were to be first level circuits. I just put the keyboard/mouse on an unpowered 4 port hub, and plugged it in direct to one of the motherboard ports. And that made it work. And that brand new hub yesterday goes back to Staples tomorrow. This thing is a cpu pig though. ;-( Noticeably keeping a quad core phenom busy. Thanks. It turns out the camera is as poor as it ever was, excessive contrast and flattened highlights were a feature before, however the color is much improved over my original experiments with the spca5xx driver several years ago, on a motherboard that didn't have the cojones to handle it. Thank you very much, Nils. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) You can learn many things from children. How much patience you have, for instance. -- Franklin P. Jones From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 28 16:34:38 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:34:38 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <201009281215.42107.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <201009281215.42107.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <201009281234.38923.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 12:33:51 pm Clay Weber did opine: > On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:31:31 am FarSight Data Systems wrote: > > I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's giving > > me problems. > > > > So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and I've > > tried) with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using > > Linux Mint 7 on desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) > > might be upgrading to Kubuntu 10.04 all around. > > > > So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: > > > > Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a definite > > working flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) > > > > Price at or under $150 > > > > USB 2.0 > > > > Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) > > > > Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? > > > > Mark > > I suggest looking at > http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html > and > http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl > I am not sure how up-to-date these are, but the info is accurate. It can > take time for newer scanner models to get support, sometimes it even > takes a while for less new models. But searching by model/make should > be good, but the listings may be valid for only the very latest sane > version, I don't quickly see a way to easily determine that. > > Your Canon scanner is supposed to be supported in the currrent sane > version, so my guess is the version of sane in Lucid is not quite new > enough to have this recently-added device support. (it is one version > back from sane's current version) > > There is a ppa with the newest sane for Lucid: > https://edge.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/+archive/sane-backends > Might be worth checking out before buying a new one. > > Very few scanners advertise linux support up front, unfortunately. And > even in those companies that do have great Linux support (iirc Epson > and HP), not all their models do depending on the scanner chipsets > used. > > I currently have a cheap Canon LiDE 25 flatbed that works fine, though I > don't believe it is made anymore. It uses the 'plustek' backend. I > definitely goes higher than 600 dpi, tho I am sure most do nowdays. > > > Clay I have a now several years old Epson Perfection 1250u, works flawlessly with xsane. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Nothing is finished until the paperwork is done. From msh at farsight-data.com Tue Sep 28 16:48:06 2010 From: msh at farsight-data.com (FarSight Data Systems) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:48:06 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <201009281215.42107.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <201009281215.42107.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <201009281248.06342.msh@farsight-data.com> On Tuesday 28 September 2010 12:15:41 pm Clay Weber wrote: > On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:31:31 am FarSight Data Systems wrote: > > I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's giving me > > problems. > > > > So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and I've > > tried) with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using Linux > > Mint 7 on desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) might be > > upgrading to Kubuntu 10.04 all around. > > > > So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: > > > > Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a definite > > working flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) > > > > Price at or under $150 > > > > USB 2.0 > > > > Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) > > > > Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? > > > > Mark > > I suggest looking at > http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html > and > http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl > I am not sure how up-to-date these are, but the info is accurate. It can > take time for newer scanner models to get support, sometimes it even takes > a while for less new models. But searching by model/make should be good, > but the listings may be valid for only the very latest sane version, I > don't quickly see a way to easily determine that. > > Your Canon scanner is supposed to be supported in the currrent sane > version, so my guess is the version of sane in Lucid is not quite new > enough to have this recently-added device support. (it is one version back > from sane's current version) > > There is a ppa with the newest sane for Lucid: > https://edge.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/+archive/sane-backends > Might be worth checking out before buying a new one. > > Very few scanners advertise linux support up front, unfortunately. And even > in those companies that do have great Linux support (iirc Epson and HP), > not all their models do depending on the scanner chipsets used. > > I currently have a cheap Canon LiDE 25 flatbed that works fine, though I > don't believe it is made anymore. It uses the 'plustek' backend. I > definitely goes higher than 600 dpi, tho I am sure most do nowdays. > > > Clay I appreciate the answer. I should have mentioned I looked up the SANE website before I bought the scanner, figuring I wouldn't have a problem with it, under the versions I've been using. What I'm asking for is what are those on this list using, what problems, if any, did they have, etc. From these answers I will determine the unit I will get. Thanks. Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 28 16:51:24 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:51:24 -0400 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201009281251.25013.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 12:43:56 pm Michael Hirsch did opine: > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:06 AM, gene heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I pulled out an old Labtec usb camera this morning to see if it would > > work any better on a full speed usb2.0 circuit. �But I don't know > > what display program to use. > > Kopete will show your camera image. In the Settings there is a tab > for video that lets you see your camera's image. > Apparently at 1/2 resolution. With cheese I can get a 640x480, much sharper. Unforch, cheese will not show me a directory where I actually have permissions to save a snapshot. Not that I want to presently anyway, I had a skin cancer removed yesterday, and have a knee sized bandaid in front of my right ear. Ahh, PEBKAC, I was running it as amanda, dropping back to gene, it works. If it makes it through the server, a 27k .jpg is attached. > Unless you have a partner to talk with, you can't do much else with > the camera in kopete, however. But it is nice for a quick check if > you are like me and kopete is always running. > > Michael -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) DON'T go!! I'm not HOWARD COSELL!! I know POLISH JOKES ... WAIT!! Don't go!! I AM Howard Cosell! ... And I DON'T know Polish jokes!! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2010-09-28-124758.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 26952 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pwhite at bluewin.ch Tue Sep 28 16:53:16 2010 From: pwhite at bluewin.ch (Perry) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:53:16 +0200 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> Message-ID: <201009281853.16132.pwhite@bluewin.ch> Le Tuesday 28 September 2010 17.31:31 FarSight Data Systems, vous avez écrit (you wrote) : > I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's giving me > problems. > > So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and I've > tried) with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using Linux > Mint 7 on desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) might be > upgrading to Kubuntu 10.04 all around. > > So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: > > Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a definite > working flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) > > Price at or under $150 > > USB 2.0 > > Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) > > Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? > > Mark > As I'm still with Jaunty I can't swear it will work with Mint 7 or Lucid, but I guess a Linux printer is a Linux printer. I'm using an *HP Photosmart C4280* with no problem except that the scanning button on the printer does not work and I must first open Xsan in order to scan. You may want to look at or Cheers Perry -- BOFH excuse #9: doppler effect From dave at thefletchers.net Tue Sep 28 17:04:36 2010 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:04:36 +0100 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <201009281248.06342.msh@farsight-data.com> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <201009281215.42107.claydoh@claydoh.com> <201009281248.06342.msh@farsight-data.com> Message-ID: <201009281804.37100.dave@thefletchers.net> On Tuesday 28 Sep 2010, FarSight Data Systems wrote: > > What I'm asking for is what are those on this list using, what problems, if > any, did they have, etc. > > From these answers I will determine the unit I will get. > > Thanks. > > Mark > > I'm using a Perfection 2450 Photo. Bearing in mind that this was first used on a PC that only had USB1.1, a couple of (few?) years ago I had terrible problems when I upgraded to a machine with USB 2, as did other people. I heard that somebody at Red Hat fixed the problem but in the meantime I'd bought a FireWire cable and an expansion board for the PC. I looked behind the scanner just now and it's still connected via the FireWire socket, working beautifully. I've never tried USB with it since finding this solution. Apart from this, in my very limited experience any Epson or HP scanner or printer I have plugged into a Linux box, "Just Works" including the HP scanner/printer combo I plugged into a box a couple of weeks ago. Dave From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 28 17:21:12 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:21:12 -0400 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <201009281251.25013.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281251.25013.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201009281321.12303.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 01:17:49 pm gene heskett did opine: > On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 12:43:56 pm Michael Hirsch did opine: > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:06 AM, gene heskett wrote: > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > I pulled out an old Labtec usb camera this morning to see if it > > > would work any better on a full speed usb2.0 circuit. �But I don't > > > know what display program to use. > > > > Kopete will show your camera image. In the Settings there is a tab > > for video that lets you see your camera's image. > > Apparently at 1/2 resolution. With cheese I can get a 640x480, much > sharper. Unforch, cheese will not show me a directory where I actually > have permissions to save a snapshot. Not that I want to presently > anyway, I had a skin cancer removed yesterday, and have a knee sized > bandaid in front of my right ear. Ahh, PEBKAC, I was running it as > amanda, dropping back to gene, it works. If it makes it through the > server, a 27k .jpg is attached. > > > Unless you have a partner to talk with, you can't do much else with > > the camera in kopete, however. But it is nice for a quick check if > > you are like me and kopete is always running. > > > > Michael Well, I'll be, it made it through the server. Now everyone can see this "handsome" old fart, who will get the stitches out from under that band-aid next Monday, same day I'll be 76 YO. Anybody here that can beat that? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Lonely men seek companionship. Lonely women sit at home and wait. They never meet. From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 28 17:25:32 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:25:32 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <201009281804.37100.dave@thefletchers.net> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <201009281248.06342.msh@farsight-data.com> <201009281804.37100.dave@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <201009281325.32852.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 01:22:04 pm David Fletcher did opine: > On Tuesday 28 Sep 2010, FarSight Data Systems wrote: > > What I'm asking for is what are those on this list using, what > > problems, if any, did they have, etc. > > > > From these answers I will determine the unit I will get. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Mark > > I'm using a Perfection 2450 Photo. Bearing in mind that this was first > used on a PC that only had USB1.1, a couple of (few?) years ago I had > terrible problems when I upgraded to a machine with USB 2, as did other > people. I heard that somebody at Red Hat fixed the problem but in the > meantime I'd bought a FireWire cable and an expansion board for the PC. > I looked behind the scanner just now and it's still connected via the > FireWire socket, working beautifully. I've never tried USB with it > since finding this solution. > > Apart from this, in my very limited experience any Epson or HP scanner > or printer I have plugged into a Linux box, "Just Works" including the > HP scanner/printer combo I plugged into a box a couple of weeks ago. > > Dave Which is quite a bit more than I can say for the Epson NX-515 I bought 6 months ago, its an all in one, but the scanner has uncontrollable shading and is useless. So I still use the old Epson 1250u which lets the lamp warm up for a couple of minutes to stabilize before ever moving the carriage. Its like 5 seconds for the NX-515. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The memory management on the PowerPC can be used to frighten small children. -- Linus Torvalds From g.lip at gmx.com Tue Sep 28 17:41:01 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:41:01 +0800 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <201009281321.12303.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281251.25013.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281321.12303.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:21:12 +0800, gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 01:17:49 pm gene heskett did opine: >> I had a skin cancer removed yesterday, and have a knee sized >> bandaid in front of my right ear. > Now everyone can see this "handsome" old fart, who will get the > stitches out from under that band-aid > Anybody here that can beat that? > Gene, take some rest and take care. Leave that leaking roof for some other day. Hope you don't need chemo or radio, but if the doctor says you do, listen to him. It's now far better than in the past. If you need more convincing, see below video. I think he's a much 'older fart' than you. (I think he got you beat). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzySHcWuRqw Regards - Goh Lip -- I used to have an open mind, but my brains kept falling out. From wayward4now at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 18:24:37 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:24:37 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> Message-ID: <1285698277.27378.318.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 11:31 -0400, FarSight Data Systems wrote: > I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's giving me > problems. > > > > So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and I've > tried) with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using > Linux Mint 7 on desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) might > be upgrading to Kubuntu 10.04 all around. > > > > So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: > > > > Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a definite > working flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) > > > > Price at or under $150 > > > > USB 2.0 > > > > Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) > > > > Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? Just about any of the HP All-in-One printers with a built in scanner seems to work just fine. I love mine. I just hate how expensive it is to use one as a printer. They are cheap though. I just keep mine full of ink so that it will work as a scanner. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From wayward4now at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 18:29:46 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:29:46 -0400 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <201009281233.04206.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281754.23552.kassube@gmx.net> <201009281233.04206.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <1285698586.27378.335.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 12:33 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Is usb dropping the ball or ?? might be the problem? It is plugged into a > powered hub an additional hub tier away from the motherboard's port. Silly question, have you tried plugging it directly into a motherboard USB port? Streaming audio/video is pretty demanding. What happens may be telling. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From wayward4now at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 18:34:01 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:34:01 -0400 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <201009281251.25013.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281251.25013.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <1285698841.27378.354.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 12:51 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > I had a skin cancer removed yesterday, and have a knee sized bandaid in > front of my right ear. Ahh, PEBKAC, I was running it as amanda, dropping > back to gene, it works. If it makes it through the server, a 27k .jpg is > attached. Gene, old friend, you COULD smile for the camera ...work it baby work it! I see you have your RPG and Amiga Fortran manuals handy behind you. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From wayward4now at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 18:34:46 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:34:46 -0400 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <201009281321.12303.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281251.25013.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281321.12303.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <1285698886.27378.355.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 13:21 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Well, I'll be, it made it through the server. Now everyone can see this > "handsome" old fart, who will get the stitches out from under that band-aid > next Monday, same day I'll be 76 YO. > > Anybody here that can beat that? Only with a stick. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 28 18:54:07 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:54:07 -0400 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281321.12303.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201009281454.07310.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 02:13:44 pm Goh Lip did opine: > On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:21:12 +0800, gene heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 01:17:49 pm gene heskett did opine: > >> I had a skin cancer removed yesterday, and have a knee sized > >> bandaid in front of my right ear. > >> > > Now everyone can see this "handsome" old fart, who will get the > > > > stitches out from under that band-aid > > > > Anybody here that can beat that? > > Gene, take some rest and take care. Leave that leaking roof for some > other day. Hope you don't need chemo or radio, but if the doctor says > you do, listen to him. It's now far better than in the past. The roof (contracted), and the fence (me) are done, as is the boat shed (me) I've yet to post pix of on my web page, and I intend to take it a little easier now. But TBT, stuff like that not only keeps me out of the bars, but helps to keep my diabetic ass at a reasonable weight, down almost 40 to the 165 range since 2002 when I handed my office keys to Dave at the tv station. Younger neighbors are a bit jealous of the stuff I tackle and do at my age. Frankly, sitting on ones butt after retirement seems to be a sure way to have a short retirement. I am most assuredly not done yet, I can't fall over, too many things to do yet. > If you > need more convincing, see below video. I think he's a much 'older fart' > than you. (I think he got you beat). > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzySHcWuRqw > Chuckle, and FWIW, I have admired James from afar for probably 60 years. He may be one of those 2.3% that it works on, he may have caught it before it 'got away'. My oldest daughter screwed around with a quack Dr for over a year before she checked into the big shop in Omaha, an hours drive south, but it was by then way too late. They hooked up a tube into what was left of her gut and poured in about 12k calories a day with a pump, and she made it to just short of Thanksgiving day in 2007, from an August diagnosis and surgery session. Nothing else they could do, two rather lengthy and debilitating rounds of chemo probably didn't prolong her life by more than a week. I spent about 2 weeks sleeping in the youngest sons bed, knowing that no one had told her, until I could take it anymore plus my missus was going stir crazy, so I drove the 3 days home, then packed up and took us both to the nieces dairy farm in western NY. Something of a presence in the room woke me up about 3am but when I looked around no one was there. But I had a feeling she had stopped by to say goodby, and the only thing that truly amazed me was that my cell phone, which at the farm is 5 miles from a tower and has never worked there, rang about 9:45 the next morning and it was her husband telling me she had passed about 2am his time. Strange how that works. But it did. When I hung up me the geek was watching the signal bar which was about 4 out of 5, but dropped to zero a few seconds after hanging up. And it never worked there again. > Regards - Goh Lip Thanks Goh Lip, one always appreciates good advice. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Optimism is the content of small men in high places. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald, "The Crack Up" From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 28 18:55:13 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:55:13 -0400 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <1285698586.27378.335.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281233.04206.gheskett@wdtv.com> <1285698586.27378.335.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <201009281455.13573.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 02:54:42 pm Ric Moore did opine: > On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 12:33 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > Is usb dropping the ball or ?? might be the problem? It is plugged > > into a powered hub an additional hub tier away from the motherboard's > > port. > > Silly question, have you tried plugging it directly into a motherboard > USB port? Streaming audio/video is pretty demanding. What happens may > be telling. Ric Precisely Ric, it works there. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Marvelous! The super-user's going to boot me! What a finely tuned response to the situation! From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 28 19:13:29 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:13:29 -0400 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <1285698841.27378.354.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281251.25013.gheskett@wdtv.com> <1285698841.27378.354.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <201009281513.29714.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 03:00:58 pm Ric Moore did opine: > On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 12:51 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > I had a skin cancer removed yesterday, and have a knee sized bandaid > > in front of my right ear. Ahh, PEBKAC, I was running it as amanda, > > dropping back to gene, it works. If it makes it through the server, > > a 27k .jpg is attached. > > Gene, old friend, you COULD smile for the camera ...work it baby work > it! > Is this any better? ;-) > I see you have your RPG and Amiga Fortran manuals handy behind you. > Ric It is probably a good deal that you can't read them, all those papers taped to the wall are how I keep track of usernames and passwords for all those sites that _think_ they are more secure. Surely you can't think I can remember all that do you? Amiga Fortran? Never had it loaded if it even exists, I know from nothing about Fortran in any event. My math knowledge if you could call it that, often comes out of the numerous reference books on the shelves above me. As you know, I never got past grade school algebra, I am self-taught from the 8th grade on. As for RPGames, I have better things to do, like pester a mailing list, which in this case turns out to be better advice than I was able to google for, and rpmfind can't find the servers database this morning. So in case I didn't say it, thanks, "cheese" was the winner. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Q: What is printed on the bottom of beer bottles in Minnesota? A: Open other end. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2010-09-28-150006.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 28448 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wayward4now at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 19:22:02 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:22:02 -0400 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <201009281455.13573.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281233.04206.gheskett@wdtv.com> <1285698586.27378.335.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <201009281455.13573.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <1285701722.27378.506.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 14:55 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 02:54:42 pm Ric Moore did opine: > > > On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 12:33 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > Is usb dropping the ball or ?? might be the problem? It is plugged > > > into a powered hub an additional hub tier away from the motherboard's > > > port. > > > > Silly question, have you tried plugging it directly into a motherboard > > USB port? Streaming audio/video is pretty demanding. What happens may > > be telling. Ric > > Precisely Ric, it works there. Ha! Then next time WORK IT for the lens! You got it, baby! That's it! Make LOVE to the camera! C'mon, show us what you're working with! :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Tue Sep 28 19:24:05 2010 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:24:05 +0100 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CA240D5.4000200@btinternet.com> On 28/09/10 17:48, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > I appreciate the answer. I should have mentioned I looked up the SANE > website before I bought the scanner, figuring I wouldn't have a > problem with it, under the versions I've been using. > > > What I'm asking for is what are those on this list using, what > problems, if any, did they have, etc. > > > From these answers I will determine the unit I will get. > > > Thanks. > > > Mark > > I would not look at other than HP because of HPLIP, I find that application invaluable, they do support linux fairly completely. I have an HP C7180 all-in-one(will connect USB, wifi, ethernet, parallel) and an F2280 all-in-one(USB only) The only trouble I've had with them is when upgrading Kubuntu, when both the Printer and Xsane drivers from the repos have been out of date, and I have had to get onto the HP site to get the latest. To be fair, I've just now installed Kubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-amd64 and both printing and scanning worked 'out of the box'. The only mutter- mutter I've got is that they seem to be a little expensive on ink. brian From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Sep 28 20:06:19 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:06:19 -0400 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <1285701722.27378.506.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281455.13573.gheskett@wdtv.com> <1285701722.27378.506.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <201009281606.19735.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 03:59:18 pm Ric Moore did opine: > On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 14:55 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 02:54:42 pm Ric Moore did opine: > > > On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 12:33 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > Is usb dropping the ball or ?? might be the problem? It is > > > > plugged into a powered hub an additional hub tier away from the > > > > motherboard's port. > > > > > > Silly question, have you tried plugging it directly into a > > > motherboard USB port? Streaming audio/video is pretty demanding. > > > What happens may be telling. Ric > > > > Precisely Ric, it works there. > > Ha! Then next time WORK IT for the lens! > You got it, baby! That's it! Make LOVE to the camera! > > C'mon, show us what you're working with! > :) Ric I just found it actually has a focus ring that works, so the onscreen video is now quite sharp, equ of about a megabyte jpg file.. But the jpgs it saves are smunched to the point its all lost. So its just noticeably sharper in the jpg, and I won't post another as Miriam is probably about to ban me anyway for the two I did. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite. -- Winston Churchill, on formal declarations of war From g.lip at gmx.com Tue Sep 28 20:20:55 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 04:20:55 +0800 Subject: [OT] Re: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <201009281454.07310.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281321.12303.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281454.07310.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <4CA24E27.1000906@gmx.com> On Wednesday 29,September,2010 02:54 AM, gene heskett wrote: > Chuckle, and FWIW, I have admired James from afar for probably 60 years. > He may be one of those 2.3% that it works on, he may have caught it before > it 'got away'. Strange, I have a feeling you're one of those who are sceptical of the effects of chemo. (but, no, I don't think it's one of those mystical thingies) and yes, there are reports purported to indicate the lack of efficacy of chemo, eg.. http://www.icnr.com/articles/ischemotherapyeffective.html http://www.latestagecancer.com/2009/12/efficacy-of-chemotherapy-beneficial-or-dubious.html ah, the perils of disinformation on the internet, or on the ubuntu-list :) and I understand where your 2.3% comes from. And that is why I felt it necessary to ask you to reaccess your opinion; and yes, old farts can be pretty obstinate. Mathematically speaking, reporting of *median* survivor of life extensions, as required, can be obsfuscating, that doctors and medical researchers themselves usually do not understand (I cannot recall any student in biology class that's good in math). A good simple read on this might be Marilyn vos Savant's book. In plain terms, I might admit to a (much) better than 30% chance of chemo working (and depending on the type of cancer), and the trouble is, they haven't yet found out which of the patients are 30% or the 70%; so better safe than sorry. To put it much plainer (for an old fart to understand), but a bit more risque (sorry, more sensitive folks), half the world have 2 testicles and the other half have 2 breasts, but that doesn't mean the average person has one testicle and one breast. (like the average family has 2.145 kids) As I have said, chemo is now not debilitating anymore but hey, what have you got to lose, only your life? Not worth the gamble, even for an old man. You've got the roof to fix, remember? And I don't think you're much smarter than your (qualified) doctor. Sorry to hear about your eldest daughter. Regards - Goh Lip -- Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate. But hey, enjoy it while you can. From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Tue Sep 28 21:34:34 2010 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:34:34 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> Message-ID: <201009281734.34449.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:31:31 am FarSight Data Systems wrote: > I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's giving me > problems. > > So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and I've tried) > with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using Linux Mint 7 on > desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) might be upgrading to Kubuntu > 10.04 all around. > > So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: > > Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a definite working > flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) > > Price at or under $150 > > USB 2.0 > > Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) > > Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? > > Mark > > If you are not going with a new one, the HP psc 750 works 100% Alan From msh at farsight-data.com Tue Sep 28 22:05:30 2010 From: msh at farsight-data.com (FarSight Data Systems) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:05:30 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <201009281853.16132.pwhite@bluewin.ch> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <201009281853.16132.pwhite@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <201009281805.31003.msh@farsight-data.com> On Tuesday 28 September 2010 12:53:16 pm Perry wrote: > Le Tuesday 28 September 2010 17.31:31 FarSight Data Systems, vous avez > écrit > > (you wrote) : > > I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's giving me > > problems. > > > > So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and I've > > tried) with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using > > Linux Mint 7 on desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) might be > > upgrading to Kubuntu 10.04 all around. > > > > So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: > > > > Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a definite > > working flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) > > > > Price at or under $150 > > > > USB 2.0 > > > > Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) > > > > Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? > > > > Mark > > As I'm still with Jaunty I can't swear it will work with Mint 7 or Lucid, > but I guess a Linux printer is a Linux printer. > I'm using an *HP Photosmart C4280* with no problem except that the scanning > button on the printer does not work and I must first open Xsan in order to > scan. I appreciate the advice, but I'm not looking for a printer, but a stand alone flatbed scanner. I have 2 printers which work perfectly fine with all the versions of Linux I've used for the past 8 years. Scanner, not printer and definitely not an all-in-one. Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kaj at haulrich.net Tue Sep 28 22:35:57 2010 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 00:35:57 +0200 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <201009281805.31003.msh@farsight-data.com> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <201009281853.16132.pwhite@bluewin.ch> <201009281805.31003.msh@farsight-data.com> Message-ID: <4CA26DCD.1010001@haulrich.net> On 2010-09-29 00:05, FarSight Data Systems wrote: > On Tuesday 28 September 2010 12:53:16 pm Perry wrote: >> Le Tuesday 28 September 2010 17.31:31 FarSight Data Systems, vous avez >> écrit >> >> (you wrote) : >>> I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's giving me >>> problems. >>> >>> So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and I've >>> tried) with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using >>> Linux Mint 7 on desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) might be >>> upgrading to Kubuntu 10.04 all around. >>> >>> So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: >>> >>> Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a definite >>> working flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) >>> >>> Price at or under $150 >>> >>> USB 2.0 >>> >>> Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) >>> >>> Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? >>> >>> Mark >> >> As I'm still with Jaunty I can't swear it will work with Mint 7 or Lucid, >> but I guess a Linux printer is a Linux printer. >> I'm using an *HP Photosmart C4280* with no problem except that the scanning >> button on the printer does not work and I must first open Xsan in order to >> scan. > > > I appreciate the advice, but I'm not looking for a printer, but a stand alone > flatbed scanner. I have 2 printers which work perfectly fine with all the > versions of Linux I've used for the past 8 years. > > Scanner, not printer and definitely not an all-in-one. Epson Perfection 2400 Photo has followed me all the way up from Intrepid to Lucid without a hiccup. With the added bonus of being a film scanner as well (both 35 mm film and transparencies). It works well under xsane and Vuescan. Resolution up to 2400 dpi. Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Mint 9 (KDE) --------- From msh at farsight-data.com Tue Sep 28 23:03:10 2010 From: msh at farsight-data.com (FarSight Data Systems) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:03:10 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? or maybe, fix the problem? In-Reply-To: <4CA26DCD.1010001@haulrich.net> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <201009281805.31003.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA26DCD.1010001@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <201009281903.10533.msh@farsight-data.com> Maybe I'm looking at this wrong. If I don't have to go through the agita and expense of buying another scanner, why do it? My current scanners are an HP 6300c and a 6200c. The latter no longer responds to any of my Linux boxes (I admit I haven't tried it with Windows. I may). The 6300c does work, but it refuses to either do a preview scan or full scan after performing 1 to 4 of either. This is with xsane or the Gwenview plugin. Basically, what happens is I get an I/O error, meaning it loses connection somehow? The units I'm sure use some form of USB 1.0 or 1.1 (yes, they both have SCSI connections, but none of my current systems have SCSI ability anymore). So, if I can get them back to working with my current hardware and OS, I'd rather go that route. So, anyone have any ideas about this? Thanks, Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helder.earth at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 00:17:54 2010 From: helder.earth at gmail.com (Helder Terra) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:17:54 -0300 Subject: Fwd: Fw: Samba and Work Group Message-ID: <4CA285B2.9050004@gmail.com> Thanks for the help, anyway, but it still doesn't open Samba config. Changing gksu and placing kdesudo instead only made the cursor bouce samba icon for longer time, but didn't make it work. > On 28/09/2010 01:43, Helder Terra wrote: >> I've just tried sudo apt-get install system-config-samba, and it didn't >> work. Instead, the icon doesn't open on KDE, and I get the following >> message at the terminal: >> >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "/usr/sbin/system-config-samba", line 44, in >> import mainWindow >> File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/mainWindow.py", line 30, in >> >> import gtk.glade >> ImportError: No module named glade >> >> Coud someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? >> > For me it showed up on the menu "Settings" but the start command is > wrong as it calls for "gksu" that you/we should not have. Use the menu > editor to change the start command from gksu to kdesudo and it works. At > least for me... > > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Helder Terra R16 ARTCOMM - Multiagência MSN | pensadorlouco at gmail.com CEL | 47 8468 3038 From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed Sep 29 01:40:10 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:40:10 +1000 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> Message-ID: <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> On 29/09/2010 01:31, FarSight Data Systems wrote: > I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's giving me > problems. > > > So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and I've > tried) with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using > Linux Mint 7 on desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) might > be upgrading to Kubuntu 10.04 all around. > > > So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: > > > Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a definite > working flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) > > > Price at or under $150 > > > USB 2.0 > > > Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) > > > Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? > > > Mark Don't have to go further than the Epson V300 Photo. Have one myself. Works beautifully. You can either use it with the SANE driver but preferably use the Linux driver provided by Epson itself. http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&sku=B11B193081 BC -- Sound that shatters silence is called noise. Sound that enhances silence is called music. Chinese proverb From wayward4now at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 02:06:45 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:06:45 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <201009281805.31003.msh@farsight-data.com> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <201009281853.16132.pwhite@bluewin.ch> <201009281805.31003.msh@farsight-data.com> Message-ID: <1285726005.27378.1302.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 18:05 -0400, FarSight Data Systems wrote: > On Tuesday 28 September 2010 12:53:16 pm Perry wrote: > > Le Tuesday 28 September 2010 17.31:31 FarSight Data Systems, vous > avez > > écrit > > > > (you wrote) : > > > I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's > giving me > > > problems. > > > > > > So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and > I've > > > tried) with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using > > > Linux Mint 7 on desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) > might be > > > upgrading to Kubuntu 10.04 all around. > > > > > > So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: > > > > > > Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a > definite > > > working flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) > > > > > > Price at or under $150 > > > > > > USB 2.0 > > > > > > Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) > > > > > > Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above > parameters? > > > > > > Mark > > > > As I'm still with Jaunty I can't swear it will work with Mint 7 or > Lucid, > > but I guess a Linux printer is a Linux printer. > > I'm using an *HP Photosmart C4280* with no problem except that the > scanning > > button on the printer does not work and I must first open Xsan in > order to > > scan. > > > > > I appreciate the advice, but I'm not looking for a printer, but a > stand alone flatbed scanner. I have 2 printers which work perfectly > fine with all the versions of Linux I've used for the past 8 years. > > > > Scanner, not printer and definitely not an all-in-one. For the price of a decent flatbed scanner, they throw in the printer for free, expecting you to buy pricey ink. Just think of it as a thick flatbed scanner. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From wayward4now at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 02:11:10 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:11:10 -0400 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <201009281513.29714.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281251.25013.gheskett@wdtv.com> <1285698841.27378.354.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <201009281513.29714.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <1285726270.27378.1309.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 15:13 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Is this any better? ;-) God loves a smiling Irishman. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From gheskett at wdtv.com Wed Sep 29 02:16:09 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:16:09 -0400 Subject: zc3xx usb camera, what viewer? In-Reply-To: <1285726270.27378.1309.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <201009281106.10499.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201009281513.29714.gheskett@wdtv.com> <1285726270.27378.1309.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <201009282216.09706.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:13:09 pm Ric Moore did opine: > On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 15:13 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > Is this any better? ;-) > > God loves a smiling Irishman. :) Ric Hey, there isn't much Irish in me except maybe my short temper, some limey, some german, and enough french to have been a pretty good lover back in the day. Emphasis on 'back' since diabetes set in 15 year ago. Dammit... -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Love makes the world go 'round, with a little help from intrinsic angular momentum. From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Wed Sep 29 03:11:47 2010 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:11:47 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <1285726005.27378.1302.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <201009281853.16132.pwhite@bluewin.ch> <201009281805.31003.msh@farsight-data.com> <1285726005.27378.1302.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <4CA2AE73.7000507@optonline.net> On 9/28/2010 10:06 PM, Ric Moore wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 18:05 -0400, FarSight Data Systems wrote: /snip/ >>> I'm using an *HP Photosmart C4280* with no problem except that the >> scanning >>> button on the printer does not work and I must first open Xsan in >> order to >>> scan. >> >> >> >> >> I appreciate the advice, but I'm not looking for a printer, but a >> stand alone flatbed scanner. I have 2 printers which work perfectly >> fine with all the versions of Linux I've used for the past 8 years. >> >> >> >> Scanner, not printer and definitely not an all-in-one. > > For the price of a decent flatbed scanner, they throw in the printer for > free, expecting you to buy pricey ink. Just think of it as a thick > flatbed scanner. :) Ric > Watch out! Someone else in this thread mentioned that he _had_ to buy ink so that the scanner would work. So even if you never printed anything on the hp, you might have to keep it in ink--which dries up relatively quickly. It would be typical of hp to tie the one to the other. I would definitely get the manual and read it carefully before committing to that machine. BTW, someone else in the thread liked the Epson V300 Photo. I have one, and I haven't used it on my Linux machine (no network, unfortunately) but in W7 it works really nicely, and fairly quick. Also under $100, even MSRP! --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley From msh at farsight-data.com Wed Sep 29 03:47:27 2010 From: msh at farsight-data.com (FarSight Data Systems) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:47:27 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> On Tuesday 28 September 2010 09:40:10 pm Basil Chupin wrote: > On 29/09/2010 01:31, FarSight Data Systems wrote: > > I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's giving me > > problems. > > > > > > So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and I've > > tried) with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using > > Linux Mint 7 on desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) might > > be upgrading to Kubuntu 10.04 all around. > > > > > > So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: > > > > > > Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a definite > > working flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) > > > > > > Price at or under $150 > > > > > > USB 2.0 > > > > > > Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) > > > > > > Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? > > > > > > Mark > > Don't have to go further than the Epson V300 Photo. > > Have one myself. > > Works beautifully. > > You can either use it with the SANE driver but preferably use the Linux > driver provided by Epson itself. > > http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&sku=B1 >1B193081 > > BC > > > > > -- > Sound that shatters silence is called noise. Sound that enhances silence is > called music. Chinese proverb The SANE supported Devices page says the Perfection V300 Photo is unsupported. Is this wrong? Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Instead, the icon doesn't open on KDE, and I get the following >>> message at the terminal: >>> >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "/usr/sbin/system-config-samba", line 44, in >>> import mainWindow >>> File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/mainWindow.py", line 30, in >>> >>> import gtk.glade >>> ImportError: No module named glade >>> >>> Coud someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? >>> >> For me it showed up on the menu "Settings" but the start command is >> wrong as it calls for "gksu" that you/we should not have. Use the menu >> editor to change the start command from gksu to kdesudo and it works. At >> least for me... >> >> Sinclair >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Wed Sep 29 05:09:46 2010 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:09:46 -0400 Subject: Fwd: [Mw] Gmail accounts Message-ID: <4CA2CA1A.2080200@optonline.net> This from the amateur (ham radio) microwave list, for your information. (Previous message) Folks It appears that the GMAIL server is not accepting microwave list mail when you are the originator of the message. I will have my ISP look into it. If you have a xxx at gmail.com address, you might not be getting your own messages back through the list, and in some cases it might not even get to the list. (Next message) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Mw] Gmail accounts Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:59:53 -0400 From: Tom Williams To: Microwave_temp Folks with Gmail accounts. According to Google, the Gmail system has a "feature" which automatically filters out from you inbox messages which you have sent to any email list. It apparently throws them away. Google tells you that they are "still there" in your "sent folder". Personally, I find this amazingly poor design, but that is what I have learned. Tom _______________________________________________ Microwave mailing list microwave at lists.valinet.com http://lists.valinet.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/microwave ********************************************************************* Maybe this is all old news to you folks, but I thought it worthwhile to pass it on. --doug From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed Sep 29 06:25:17 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 16:25:17 +1000 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <4CA2AE73.7000507@optonline.net> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <201009281853.16132.pwhite@bluewin.ch> <201009281805.31003.msh@farsight-data.com> <1285726005.27378.1302.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <4CA2AE73.7000507@optonline.net> Message-ID: <4CA2DBCD.1070700@iinet.net.au> On 29/09/2010 13:11, Doug wrote: > On 9/28/2010 10:06 PM, Ric Moore wrote: > >> On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 18:05 -0400, FarSight Data Systems wrote: >> > /snip/ > >>>> I'm using an *HP Photosmart C4280* with no problem except that the >>>> >>> scanning >>> >>>> button on the printer does not work and I must first open Xsan in >>>> >>> order to >>> >>>> scan. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I appreciate the advice, but I'm not looking for a printer, but a >>> stand alone flatbed scanner. I have 2 printers which work perfectly >>> fine with all the versions of Linux I've used for the past 8 years. >>> >>> >>> >>> Scanner, not printer and definitely not an all-in-one. >>> >> For the price of a decent flatbed scanner, they throw in the printer for >> free, expecting you to buy pricey ink. Just think of it as a thick >> flatbed scanner. :) Ric >> >> > Watch out! Someone else in this thread mentioned that he _had_ to buy > ink so that the scanner would work. So even if you never printed > anything on the hp, you might have to keep it in ink--which dries up > relatively quickly. It would be typical of hp to tie the one to the > other. I would definitely get the manual and read it carefully > before committing to that machine. > > BTW, someone else in the thread liked the Epson V300 Photo. I > have one, and I haven't used it on my Linux machine (no network, > unfortunately) but in W7 it works really nicely, and fairly quick. > I did - mention the V300. But I am curious: why the comment about a network? I don't have a network of any description. There was no mention of any network requirements by the OP - only the need for USB2.0 connectivity. It *IS* quick. A *LOT* quicker than the Canon (of similar specs) which I had. In fact, the difference surprised me. BC -- Sound that shatters silence is called noise. Sound that enhances silence is called music. Chinese proverb From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed Sep 29 06:50:24 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 16:50:24 +1000 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> Message-ID: <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> On 29/09/2010 13:47, FarSight Data Systems wrote: > On Tuesday 28 September 2010 09:40:10 pm Basil Chupin wrote: > > On 29/09/2010 01:31, FarSight Data Systems wrote: > > > I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's giving me > > > problems. > > > > > > > > > So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and I've > > > tried) with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using > > > Linux Mint 7 on desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) might > > > be upgrading to Kubuntu 10.04 all around. > > > > > > > > > So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: > > > > > > > > > Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a definite > > > working flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) > > > > > > > > > Price at or under $150 > > > > > > > > > USB 2.0 > > > > > > > > > Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) > > > > > > > > > Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > Don't have to go further than the Epson V300 Photo. > > > > Have one myself. > > > > Works beautifully. > > > > You can either use it with the SANE driver but preferably use the Linux > > driver provided by Epson itself. > > > > > http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&sku=B1 > >1B193081 > > > > BC > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sound that shatters silence is called noise. Sound that enhances > silence is > > called music. Chinese proverb > > > The SANE supported Devices page says the Perfection V300 Photo is > unsupported. Is this wrong? Yes. I have the SANE driver installed. Fascinating.... I go to Applications/Graphics and start XSane Image Scanner.....and I get XSane 0.996 Perfection V300 driver. The "native" app. in Ubuntu Simple Scan supports it. But you would be better off going to http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/ to get the Linux driver for the V300 from Epson itself. The driver comes in 2 parts: esci-interpreter-gt-f720_0.0.1-2_i386.deb and iscan_2.24.0-4.ltdl7_i386.deb Use nautilus to install these. BUT, you need to install one before you can install the other - and I cannot remember which one comes first! :-) . Don't worry, you will get an error message if you do it the wrong way 'round :-) . There is also ImageScan.pdf BC -- Sound that shatters silence is called noise. Sound that enhances silence is called music. Chinese proverb From bqz69 at telia.com Wed Sep 29 06:54:02 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 06:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: When adding an attachment in kmail it shows it as a screenshot of a directory References: <201009231129.25182.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: > I just removed kmailrc, but the problem is still there. > > Yesterday i could not forward a mail, that's why I tried to remove > kmailrc, to fix both problems, and the forward thing now seems to work > again?? Strange, now I cannot change the folder setup in kmail either: Kmail - Folder - Properties - View I will have to use thunderbird until Kmail gets fixed, hopefully in 10.10 :-) (Also wireless does not work in network-manager any more, so I use ethernet cable connection) I have upgraded to kde 4.4.5 from the 10.04 default kde, to solve some problem. Just now I feel a bit lost overall in my kde "enjoyment" *humor* - and look forward to a new install of stable 10.10 Maverick ? From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed Sep 29 07:31:32 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 17:31:32 +1000 Subject: [opensuse] Fwd: [Mw] Gmail accounts In-Reply-To: <4CA2CA1A.2080200@optonline.net> References: <4CA2CA1A.2080200@optonline.net> Message-ID: <4CA2EB54.6010900@iinet.net.au> On 29/09/2010 15:09, Doug wrote: > This from the amateur (ham radio) microwave list, for your information. > > (Previous message) > > Folks > It appears that the GMAIL server is not accepting microwave list mail > when you are the originator of the message. > I will have my ISP look into it. > > If you have a xxx at gmail.com address, you might not be getting your own > messages back through the list, and in some cases it might not even get > to the list. > > (Next message) > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [Mw] Gmail accounts > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:59:53 -0400 > From: Tom Williams > To: Microwave_temp > > Folks with Gmail accounts. > > According to Google, the Gmail system has a "feature" which > automatically filters out from you inbox messages which you have sent to > any email list. It apparently throws them away. Google tells you that > they are "still there" in your "sent folder". Personally, I find this > amazingly poor design, but that is what I have learned. > > Tom I believe that this "feature" of gmail has been known for quite some time. BC -- Sound that shatters silence is called noise. Sound that enhances silence is called music. Chinese proverb From gilgib1 at verizon.net Wed Sep 29 11:14:07 2010 From: gilgib1 at verizon.net (Gil Gibbons) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 07:14:07 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <4CA240D5.4000200@btinternet.com> References: <4CA240D5.4000200@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <4CA31F7F.2040702@verizon.net> On 09/28/2010 03:24 PM, Brian Wootton wrote: > On 28/09/10 17:48, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > >> I appreciate the answer. I should have mentioned I looked up the SANE >> website before I bought the scanner, figuring I wouldn't have a >> problem with it, under the versions I've been using. >> >> >> What I'm asking for is what are those on this list using, what >> problems, if any, did they have, etc. >> >> >> From these answers I will determine the unit I will get. >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> Mark >> >> >> > I would not look at other than HP because of HPLIP, I find that application > invaluable, they do support linux fairly completely. > I have an HP C7180 all-in-one(will connect USB, wifi, ethernet, parallel) > and an F2280 all-in-one(USB only) The only trouble I've had with them is > when upgrading Kubuntu, when both the Printer and Xsane drivers > from the repos have been out of date, and I have had to get onto the HP > site to get the latest. > To be fair, I've just now installed Kubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-amd64 and > both printing and scanning worked 'out of the box'. The only mutter- > mutter I've got is that they seem to be a little expensive on ink. > brian > > Brother all-in one printer scanners fax. Brother has Linux drivers http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_scn.html From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed Sep 29 11:14:12 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:14:12 +1000 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> On 29/09/2010 16:50, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 29/09/2010 13:47, FarSight Data Systems wrote: > >> On Tuesday 28 September 2010 09:40:10 pm Basil Chupin wrote: >> >>> On 29/09/2010 01:31, FarSight Data Systems wrote: >>> >>>> I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's giving me >>>> problems. >>>> >>>> >>>> So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and I've >>>> tried) with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using >>>> Linux Mint 7 on desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) might >>>> be upgrading to Kubuntu 10.04 all around. >>>> >>>> >>>> So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: >>>> >>>> >>>> Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a definite >>>> working flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) >>>> >>>> >>>> Price at or under $150 >>>> >>>> >>>> USB 2.0 >>>> >>>> >>>> Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) >>>> >>>> >>>> Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>> Don't have to go further than the Epson V300 Photo. >>> >>> Have one myself. >>> >>> Works beautifully. >>> >>> You can either use it with the SANE driver but preferably use the Linux >>> driver provided by Epson itself. >>> >>> >>> >> http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&sku=B1 >> >>> 1B193081 >>> >>> BC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sound that shatters silence is called noise. Sound that enhances >>> >> silence is >> >>> called music. Chinese proverb >>> >> >> The SANE supported Devices page says the Perfection V300 Photo is >> unsupported. Is this wrong? >> > Yes. I have the SANE driver installed. Fascinating.... > > I go to Applications/Graphics and start XSane Image Scanner.....and I > get XSane 0.996 Perfection V300 driver. > > The "native" app. in Ubuntu Simple Scan supports it. > > But you would be better off going to http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/ > to get the Linux driver for the V300 from Epson itself. > > The driver comes in 2 parts: > > esci-interpreter-gt-f720_0.0.1-2_i386.deb and > > iscan_2.24.0-4.ltdl7_i386.deb > > Use nautilus to install these. BUT, you need to install one before you > can install the other - and I cannot remember which one comes first! :-) > . Don't worry, you will get an error message if you do it the wrong way > 'round :-) . > > There is also > > ImageScan.pdf > > BC > I just realised that this thread is in kubuntu and not ubuntu. However, I do not see how there would be a difference in the drivers for V300 between ubuntu and kubuntu except perhaps that the driver may have the *.rpm extension and not *.deb and that you would use something else other than nautilus (?konqueror) to install the 2 parts. BC -- Sound that shatters silence is called noise. Sound that enhances silence is called music. Chinese proverb From myriam at kubuntu.org Wed Sep 29 11:34:13 2010 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:34:13 +0200 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? or maybe, fix the problem? In-Reply-To: <201009281903.10533.msh@farsight-data.com> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <201009281805.31003.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA26DCD.1010001@haulrich.net> <201009281903.10533.msh@farsight-data.com> Message-ID: Hi Mark, On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 01:03, FarSight Data Systems wrote: > Maybe I'm looking at this wrong. > > If I don't have to go through the agita and expense of buying another > scanner, why do it? > > My current scanners are an HP 6300c and a 6200c. The latter no longer > responds to any of my Linux boxes (I admit I haven't tried it with Windows. > I may). > > The 6300c does work, but it refuses to either do a preview scan or full scan > after performing 1 to 4 of either. > > This is with xsane or the Gwenview plugin. Basically, what happens is I get > an I/O error, meaning it loses connection somehow? > > The units I'm sure use some form of USB 1.0 or 1.1 (yes, they both have SCSI > connections, but none of my current systems have SCSI ability anymore). > > So, if I can get them back to working with my current hardware and OS, I'd > rather go that route. > > So, anyone have any ideas about this? The best place to check for compatibility of printers and scanners are these sites: http://www.openprinting.org/printers for printers and http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl for scanners. If you aim at a combined device, openprinting is definitely the place to look at. So according to the same project, your HP 6200c is definitely supported, you just need the sane-hp drivers for it: http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=HP&model=6200c&bus=any&v=&p= This is the page for the HP 6300c: http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=HP&model=6300c&bus=any&v=&p= which is also completely supported. Hope this helps. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From myriam at kubuntu.org Wed Sep 29 11:46:27 2010 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:46:27 +0200 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Hi Basil, On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:14, Basil Chupin wrote: > I just realised that this thread is in kubuntu and not ubuntu. > > However, I do not see how there would be a difference in the drivers for > V300 between ubuntu and kubuntu except perhaps that the driver may have > the *.rpm extension and not *.deb and that you would use something else > other than nautilus (?konqueror) to install the 2 parts. Hm, you should know that Kubuntu uses *.deb packages as well, it is not a different distribution for the basics but it is after all a spin-off of Debian, I have no idea why you think Kubuntu would then use a different packaging system. In case you need more information about Kubuntu, I suggest you read the informations on http://kubuntu.org and maybe have a look at http://kubuntuguide.org before assuming things :) Don't forget, this mailing list is about Kubuntu, so maybe getting a tad more familiar with it would be a good idea... But as you assumed correctly: hardware drivers don't depend on the Desktop one uses, but on the underlying Linux system, which is absolutely identical to Ubuntu, also for the packages and basic repositories. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 11:46:32 2010 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:46:32 +0700 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > I just realised that this thread is in kubuntu and not ubuntu. > > However, I do not see how there would be a difference in the drivers for > V300 between ubuntu and kubuntu except perhaps that the driver may have > the *.rpm extension and not *.deb and that you would use something else > other than nautilus (?konqueror) to install the 2 parts. Kubuntu is also using *.deb, not *.rpm DK From msh at farsight-data.com Wed Sep 29 11:55:11 2010 From: msh at farsight-data.com (FarSight Data Systems) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 07:55:11 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <201009290755.11556.msh@farsight-data.com> On Wednesday 29 September 2010 07:14:12 am Basil Chupin wrote: > On 29/09/2010 16:50, Basil Chupin wrote: > > On 29/09/2010 13:47, FarSight Data Systems wrote: > >> On Tuesday 28 September 2010 09:40:10 pm Basil Chupin wrote: > >>> On 29/09/2010 01:31, FarSight Data Systems wrote: > >>>> I'm looking to replace my old HP ScanJet 6300c scanner. It's giving me > >>>> problems. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> So, I've tried the Canon CanoScan 8800F and it doesn't work (and I've > >>>> tried) with Linux and Canon doesn't support Linux (currently using > >>>> Linux Mint 7 on desktop and lapton and Kubuntu 10.04 on netbook) might > >>>> be upgrading to Kubuntu 10.04 all around. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> So, what scanners work with the above distros? My parameters: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Company should support Linux (an exception can be made for a definite > >>>> working flatbed scanner that's inexpensive) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Price at or under $150 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> USB 2.0 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Mark > >>> > >>> Don't have to go further than the Epson V300 Photo. > >>> > >>> Have one myself. > >>> > >>> Works beautifully. > >>> > >>> You can either use it with the SANE driver but preferably use the Linux > >>> driver provided by Epson itself. > >> > >> http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&sku > >>=B1 > >> > >>> 1B193081 > >>> > >>> BC > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Sound that shatters silence is called noise. Sound that enhances > >> > >> silence is > >> > >>> called music. Chinese proverb > >> > >> The SANE supported Devices page says the Perfection V300 Photo is > >> unsupported. Is this wrong? > > > > Yes. I have the SANE driver installed. Fascinating.... > > > > I go to Applications/Graphics and start XSane Image Scanner.....and I > > get XSane 0.996 Perfection V300 driver. > > > > The "native" app. in Ubuntu Simple Scan supports it. > > > > But you would be better off going to http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/ > > to get the Linux driver for the V300 from Epson itself. > > > > The driver comes in 2 parts: > > > > esci-interpreter-gt-f720_0.0.1-2_i386.deb and > > > > iscan_2.24.0-4.ltdl7_i386.deb > > > > Use nautilus to install these. BUT, you need to install one before you > > can install the other - and I cannot remember which one comes first! :-) > > . Don't worry, you will get an error message if you do it the wrong way > > 'round :-) . > > > > There is also > > > > ImageScan.pdf > > > > BC > > I just realised that this thread is in kubuntu and not ubuntu. > > However, I do not see how there would be a difference in the drivers for > V300 between ubuntu and kubuntu except perhaps that the driver may have > the *.rpm extension and not *.deb and that you would use something else > other than nautilus (?konqueror) to install the 2 parts. > > BC > > -- > Sound that shatters silence is called noise. Sound that enhances silence is > called music. Chinese proverb I appreciate your help. Kubuntu still uses .deb and other Debian style package management. Not .rpm. But, I'm looking at ordering the v300. I saw that Epson supports, themselves through Avasys, Linux. Canon gave me as an excuse for not supporting Linux the fact that people can modify the OS and would blame Canon for their scanners no longer working as a result. I will be actively telling people not to buy ANY Canon product because of their deliberate non-support. Basil, Thank you. Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed Sep 29 12:10:41 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:10:41 +1000 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <4CA31F7F.2040702@verizon.net> References: <4CA240D5.4000200@btinternet.com> <4CA31F7F.2040702@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4CA32CC1.808@iinet.net.au> On 29/09/2010 21:14, Gil Gibbons wrote: > On 09/28/2010 03:24 PM, Brian Wootton wrote: > >> On 28/09/10 17:48, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: >> >> >>> I appreciate the answer. I should have mentioned I looked up the SANE >>> website before I bought the scanner, figuring I wouldn't have a >>> problem with it, under the versions I've been using. >>> >>> >>> What I'm asking for is what are those on this list using, what >>> problems, if any, did they have, etc. >>> >>> >>> From these answers I will determine the unit I will get. >>> >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >> I would not look at other than HP because of HPLIP, I find that application >> invaluable, they do support linux fairly completely. >> I have an HP C7180 all-in-one(will connect USB, wifi, ethernet, parallel) >> and an F2280 all-in-one(USB only) The only trouble I've had with them is >> when upgrading Kubuntu, when both the Printer and Xsane drivers >> from the repos have been out of date, and I have had to get onto the HP >> site to get the latest. >> To be fair, I've just now installed Kubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-amd64 and >> both printing and scanning worked 'out of the box'. The only mutter- >> mutter I've got is that they seem to be a little expensive on ink. >> brian >> >> >> > Brother all-in one printer scanners fax. Brother has Linux drivers > http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_scn.html > Horses for courses, of course. A close friend of mine wanted to buy a scanner and a printer which would do photos [he became a grandfather for the second time recently and, naturally, photos are "the in-thing"]. I told him my opinion what he ought to have. He (as is his nature) checked this out and wondered if he would be better off - and at a lesser price - to have one of these "all-in-one" wonders: scanner, printer, fax machine, latte maker, toe nail cutter...... I asked him: Do you want something which does everything poorly or do you want something which does every job perfectly? As he uses Windows, I suggested (and bought for him) a Canon scanner (CanoScan 5600F) and a Canon Pixma printer which does A3 photo prints. The cost was not under $200 of course but now he cannot stop scanning photos of his grandchildren but also all his old photos and printing them out in perfect resolution and colour on the Canon printer (Pixma IX5000). As me late pappy used to say, "I am not that rich to buy cheap goods ©". BC -- I am not that rich to buy cheap goods. Leonid Chupin © From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed Sep 29 13:18:02 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:18:02 +1000 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: <201009290755.11556.msh@farsight-data.com> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> <201009290755.11556.msh@farsight-data.com> Message-ID: <4CA33C8A.7060808@iinet.net.au> On 29/09/2010 21:55, FarSight Data Systems wrote: [pruned] > I appreciate your help. Kubuntu still uses .deb and other Debian style > package management. Not .rpm. My previous experience with KDE was in a different distro and everything was *.rpm. I have never used kubuntu - because of KDE, which I got to dislike intensely :-) and this made me make the connection with kubuntu and *.rpm :-) . OK, I learnt something today :-) . > But, I'm looking at ordering the v300. I saw that Epson supports, > themselves through Avasys, Linux. Canon gave me as an excuse for not > supporting Linux the fact that people can modify the OS and would > blame Canon for their scanners no longer working as a result. I will > be actively telling people not to buy ANY Canon product because of > their deliberate non-support. The daughter of my bestest friend worked for a Certain world-wide known Company in Europe. I won't mention the name, of Course. The horror stories she related one Christmas over dinner made me drop my jaw. Elementary management responsibilities which I learnt when at university (like Accounting Control, Internal Auditing) were not being practised. She saved this company millions of euros when she picked up on this managerial idiocy - and she didn't even read any Accounting subjects while at university! And while she was earning tens of thousands of euros in salary her salary was greatly less than the people over her.... But getting back on track, Canon will not only not write drivers to work with Linux but will not provide details for people like SANE to write the drivers. The very short list of drivers which have been written for Canon by SANE have been created it seems by people taking apart a Canon product and looking at the chipsets used in them. Way to go C ! > Basil, Thank you. No problemo. Glad to have been of help. Enjoy the V300. I certainly do. BC -- Sound that shatters silence is called noise. Sound that enhances silence is called music. Chinese proverb From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed Sep 29 14:03:39 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:03:39 +1000 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4CA3473B.7070704@iinet.net.au> On 29/09/2010 21:46, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Basil, > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:14, Basil Chupin wrote: > > >> I just realised that this thread is in kubuntu and not ubuntu. >> >> However, I do not see how there would be a difference in the drivers for >> V300 between ubuntu and kubuntu except perhaps that the driver may have >> the *.rpm extension and not *.deb and that you would use something else >> other than nautilus (?konqueror) to install the 2 parts. >> > Hm, you should know that Kubuntu uses *.deb packages as well, it is > not a different distribution for the basics but it is after all a > spin-off of Debian, I have no idea why you think Kubuntu would then > use a different packaging system. Hi Myriam, Well, as I stated to 'FarSight Data Systems' I used KDE on another distro and therefore associated *.rpm with KDE and thus thought that kubuntu (KDE) may also use *.rpms. I have never used kubuntu as I learnt to greatly dislike KDE - but I have nothing against those who still insist on using KDE. (I stopped smoking some 12 years ago but I don't think anything less of those I see smoking.) > In case you need more information > about Kubuntu, I suggest you read the informations on > http://kubuntu.org and maybe have a look at http://kubuntuguide.org > before assuming things :) Don't forget, this mailing list is about > Kubuntu, so maybe getting a tad more familiar with it would be a good > idea... > But now that you mention that there is no difference between ubuntu and kubuntu then I won't have to go through this exercise? There being no real difference is what I always assumed. The only mistake I made is to propose - not state categorically but to simply suggest to cover my butt - that the drivers for the V300 may also be in *.rpm format and not *.deb. But now you have educated me, I will never make this mistake again. Never! > But as you assumed correctly: hardware drivers don't depend on the > Desktop one uses, but on the underlying Linux system, which is > absolutely identical to Ubuntu, also for the packages and basic > repositories. > Ummm, then what's all the "fuss" about? > Regards, Myriam. > Kind regards, BC -- I am not rich enough to buy cheap goods. Leonid Chupin © From wayward4now at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 19:04:51 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:04:51 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <4CA32CC1.808@iinet.net.au> References: <4CA240D5.4000200@btinternet.com> <4CA31F7F.2040702@verizon.net> <4CA32CC1.808@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1285787091.27378.1449.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 22:10 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote: > The cost was not under $200 of course but now he cannot stop scanning > photos of his grandchildren but also all his old photos and printing > them out in perfect resolution and colour on the Canon printer (Pixma > IX5000). > > As me late pappy used to say, "I am not that rich to buy cheap goods ©". As HP tech support pointed out to me, after my all-in-one wonder lost it's color print quality, I shouldn't have bought an "entry-level" printer. Man, did I go through the roof. I went through the tirade about how I spent $800 in 1978 dollars on a Teletype 43 that would print several boxes of paper with one $4 ribbon. It got me no where, but I felt better after. I do think the darn printer should work reliably for several years, at least. It still works good as a scanner. I just don't use it to print, unless I really have to. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From wayward4now at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 19:06:56 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:06:56 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1285787216.27378.1454.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 13:46 +0200, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Don't forget, this mailing list is about > Kubuntu, so maybe getting a tad more familiar with it would be a good > idea... Oh no! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From karlok at fastmail.fm Wed Sep 29 20:24:38 2010 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:24:38 -0700 Subject: Thunderbird won't open http: links in firefox In-Reply-To: <4CA121E6.4060209@cunning.ods.org> References: <4CA121E6.4060209@cunning.ods.org> Message-ID: <4CA3A086.6050607@fastmail.fm> On 2010-09-27 15:59, Jim Cunning wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I am having trouble getting thunderbird to open firefox when I click > on http: links in mail messages. > > 1. I've set the following in prefs.js: > user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.https", > "/usr/bin/firefox"); > user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", > "/usr/bin/firefox"); > 2. I've set firefox as my default browser in Menu->System > Settings->Default Applications > 3. I have installed firefox-gnome-support. > > When I click on an http: or https: link, thunderbird displays the > "finger pointing" cursor and outlines the link, but does nothing > else. When I right click on the link in the message, I get a pop-up > with choices for "Select All", "Convert to->", Copy Link Location", > "Save Link Target", and "Report E-mail Scam". There is no choice like > "Open with..." > > What do I need to add or select in KDE, firefox, or thunderbird to get > this to work? > In the thunderbird menu: Edit -> Preferences Choose the Attachments tab in the Preferences dialog. In the Action drop down lists for http and https chose "Use Firefox (default)". I recently had this stop working for unknown reasons. I changed the choice to "Always ask" and then back again, and now it works again. Karl From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Thu Sep 30 00:42:44 2010 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 20:42:44 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <4CA2DBCD.1070700@iinet.net.au> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <201009281853.16132.pwhite@bluewin.ch> <201009281805.31003.msh@farsight-data.com> <1285726005.27378.1302.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <4CA2AE73.7000507@optonline.net> <4CA2DBCD.1070700@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4CA3DD04.2090602@optonline.net> On 9/29/2010 2:25 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 29/09/2010 13:11, Doug wrote: >> BTW, someone else in the thread liked the Epson V300 Photo. I >> have one, and I haven't used it on my Linux machine (no network, >> unfortunately) but in W7 it works really nicely, and fairly quick. >> > > I did - mention the V300. > > But I am curious: why the comment about a network? The scanner is hooked up to my Win7 machine. The two other machines (one a laptop) with Linux on them are not networked together or to the windows machine because I'm too stupid to know how, and thus, I have not used the scanner on Linux. (The desktop has PCLINUXOS, the lap has that plus Debian plus Ubuntu, plus the XP that came on it. In- terestingly enough, the PcL on the laptop can access the printer which is physically connected to the Windows machine. Everything is on the router, so somehow it is smart enough to do that. None of the other os's on the lap can do it.) --doug > > I don't have a network of any description. There was no mention of any > network requirements by the OP - only the need for USB2.0 connectivity. > > It *IS* quick. A *LOT* quicker than the Canon (of similar specs) which I > had. In fact, the difference surprised me. > > BC > -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu Sep 30 00:51:54 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:51:54 +1000 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <4CA3DD04.2090602@optonline.net> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <201009281853.16132.pwhite@bluewin.ch> <201009281805.31003.msh@farsight-data.com> <1285726005.27378.1302.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <4CA2AE73.7000507@optonline.net> <4CA2DBCD.1070700@iinet.net.au> <4CA3DD04.2090602@optonline.net> Message-ID: <4CA3DF2A.6060305@iinet.net.au> On 30/09/2010 10:42, Doug wrote: > On 9/29/2010 2:25 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > >> On 29/09/2010 13:11, Doug wrote: >> > >>> BTW, someone else in the thread liked the Epson V300 Photo. I >>> have one, and I haven't used it on my Linux machine (no network, >>> unfortunately) but in W7 it works really nicely, and fairly quick. >>> >>> >> I did - mention the V300. >> >> But I am curious: why the comment about a network? >> > The scanner is hooked up to my Win7 machine. The two other machines > (one a laptop) with Linux on them are not networked together or to the > windows machine because I'm too stupid to know how, and thus, I have > not used the scanner on Linux. (The desktop has PCLINUXOS, the lap > has that plus Debian plus Ubuntu, plus the XP that came on it. In- > terestingly enough, the PcL on the laptop can access the printer which > is physically connected to the Windows machine. Everything is on > the router, so somehow it is smart enough to do that. None of the > other os's on the lap can do it.) > > --doug > > Aha, now I understand. Thanks :-) . BC -- I am not rich enough to buy cheap goods. Leonid Chupin © From jcunning at cunning.ods.org Thu Sep 30 03:06:24 2010 From: jcunning at cunning.ods.org (Jim Cunning) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 20:06:24 -0700 Subject: Thunderbird won't open http: links in firefox In-Reply-To: <4CA3A086.6050607@fastmail.fm> References: <4CA121E6.4060209@cunning.ods.org> <4CA3A086.6050607@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <4CA3FEB0.3030203@cunning.ods.org> Karl Klinger wrote: > On 2010-09-27 15:59, Jim Cunning wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> I am having trouble getting thunderbird to open firefox when I click >> on http: links in mail messages. >> >> 1. I've set the following in prefs.js: >> user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.https", >> "/usr/bin/firefox"); >> user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", >> "/usr/bin/firefox"); >> 2. I've set firefox as my default browser in Menu->System >> Settings->Default Applications >> 3. I have installed firefox-gnome-support. >> >> When I click on an http: or https: link, thunderbird displays the >> "finger pointing" cursor and outlines the link, but does nothing >> else. When I right click on the link in the message, I get a pop-up >> with choices for "Select All", "Convert to->", Copy Link Location", >> "Save Link Target", and "Report E-mail Scam". There is no choice like >> "Open with..." >> >> What do I need to add or select in KDE, firefox, or thunderbird to get >> this to work? >> > In the thunderbird menu: > Edit -> Preferences > > Choose the Attachments tab in the Preferences dialog. In the Action > drop down lists for http and https chose "Use Firefox (default)". > > I recently had this stop working for unknown reasons. I changed the > choice to "Always ask" and then back again, and now it works again. > > Karl > Thanks, Karl, but unfortunately there is nothing listed in the Action drop down list, and there appears to be no way to add a new action. Perhaps that the root problem, so how does one go about creating a new action in the Thunderbird preferences? Regards, Jim From karlok at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 30 04:33:47 2010 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:33:47 -0700 Subject: Thunderbird won't open http: links in firefox In-Reply-To: <4CA3FEB0.3030203@cunning.ods.org> References: <4CA121E6.4060209@cunning.ods.org> <4CA3A086.6050607@fastmail.fm> <4CA3FEB0.3030203@cunning.ods.org> Message-ID: <4CA4132B.6010205@fastmail.fm> On 2010-09-29 20:06, Jim Cunning wrote: > Karl Klinger wrote: >> On 2010-09-27 15:59, Jim Cunning wrote: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> I am having trouble getting thunderbird to open firefox when I click >>> on http: links in mail messages. >>> >>> 1. I've set the following in prefs.js: >>> user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.https", >>> "/usr/bin/firefox"); >>> user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", >>> "/usr/bin/firefox"); >>> 2. I've set firefox as my default browser in Menu->System >>> Settings->Default Applications >>> 3. I have installed firefox-gnome-support. >>> >>> When I click on an http: or https: link, thunderbird displays the >>> "finger pointing" cursor and outlines the link, but does nothing >>> else. When I right click on the link in the message, I get a pop-up >>> with choices for "Select All", "Convert to->", Copy Link Location", >>> "Save Link Target", and "Report E-mail Scam". There is no choice like >>> "Open with..." >>> >>> What do I need to add or select in KDE, firefox, or thunderbird to get >>> this to work? >>> >> In the thunderbird menu: >> Edit -> Preferences >> >> Choose the Attachments tab in the Preferences dialog. In the Action >> drop down lists for http and https chose "Use Firefox (default)". >> >> I recently had this stop working for unknown reasons. I changed the >> choice to "Always ask" and then back again, and now it works again. >> >> Karl >> > Thanks, Karl, but unfortunately there is nothing listed in the Action > drop down list, and there appears to be no way to add a new action. > Perhaps that the root problem, so how does one go about creating a new > action in the Thunderbird preferences? > First of all, to make sure we're on the same wavelength, I'm using the 3.0.8 version of Thunderbird. What appears in the list seems to be controlled by this file in the home directory: .mozilla-thunderbird/xxxxxxxx.default/mimeTypes.rdf where xxxxxxxx is a random string. When I renamed this file I came up with an empty list. This is the contents of my file: You could try pasting this into your file and see if it works. Karl From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu Sep 30 05:56:33 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:56:33 +1000 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: <1285787216.27378.1454.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> <1285787216.27378.1454.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <4CA42691.1020106@iinet.net.au> On 30/09/2010 05:06, Ric Moore wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 13:46 +0200, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > >> Don't forget, this mailing list is about >> Kubuntu, so maybe getting a tad more familiar with it would be a good >> idea... >> > Oh no! Ric > :-D Nah, you need a bit more bait to catch this one.... BC -- Yes, I AM a licenced cleavage inspector. From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu Sep 30 06:36:11 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:36:11 +1000 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4CA42FDB.9050606@iinet.net.au> On 29/09/2010 21:46, David Kuntadi wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > >> I just realised that this thread is in kubuntu and not ubuntu. >> >> However, I do not see how there would be a difference in the drivers for >> V300 between ubuntu and kubuntu except perhaps that the driver may have >> the *.rpm extension and not *.deb and that you would use something else >> other than nautilus (?konqueror) to install the 2 parts. >> > Kubuntu is also using *.deb, not *.rpm > > DK > Thank you David. And I have been so heducated now by a number of people..... Ubuntu : *.deb..... Kubuntu : *.deb..... *.deb - good. *.rpm - bad. (I wonder what Xubuntu or Edubuntu use?..... And NO smart retorts from the peanut gallery - are you listening RC?! :-D .) :-) BC -- I am not rich enough to buy cheap goods. Leonid Chupin © From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu Sep 30 06:39:14 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:39:14 +1000 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: <4CA42FDB.9050606@iinet.net.au> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> <4CA42FDB.9050606@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4CA43092.3010708@iinet.net.au> On 30/09/2010 16:36, Basil Chupin wrote: [pruned] > And NO smart retorts from the peanut gallery - are you listening RC?! > :-D .) Oh dear...that should read "RM" and not "RC" :-( . Blame it on the Bossa nova.... BC -- I am not rich enough to buy cheap goods. Leonid Chupin © From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 06:40:05 2010 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:40:05 +0700 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: <4CA42FDB.9050606@iinet.net.au> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> <4CA42FDB.9050606@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > > Ubuntu : *.deb..... > > Kubuntu : *.deb..... > > *.deb - good. *.rpm - bad. I don't say that. > (I wonder what Xubuntu or Edubuntu use?..... All use *.deb. Edubuntu is also gnome by the way. DK From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Thu Sep 30 06:43:10 2010 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 02:43:10 -0400 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: <4CA43092.3010708@iinet.net.au> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> <4CA42FDB.9050606@iinet.net.au> <4CA43092.3010708@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4CA4317E.3060705@optonline.net> On 9/30/2010 2:39 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 30/09/2010 16:36, Basil Chupin wrote: > > [pruned] > >> And NO smart retorts from the peanut gallery - are you listening RC?! >> :-D .) > Oh dear...that should read "RM" and not "RC" :-( . > > Blame it on the Bossa nova.... > > BC > Why? What did the new boss do? --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu Sep 30 06:52:02 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:52:02 +1000 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> <4CA42FDB.9050606@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4CA43392.8060303@iinet.net.au> On 30/09/2010 16:40, David Kuntadi wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > >> Ubuntu : *.deb..... >> >> Kubuntu : *.deb..... >> >> *.deb - good. *.rpm - bad. >> > I don't say that. > Yes, I know. Didn't mean to imply that. >> (I wonder what Xubuntu or Edubuntu use?..... >> > All use *.deb. Edubuntu is also gnome by the way. > > DK > To quote Sybil Fawlty, from Fawlty Towers, "Oh I know, I know". - but it had slipped my mind for a moment and all I was doing, in a state of haziness, was put down on paper, so to speak, the ramblings of my befuddled mind. Thanks for clearing this up for me. Greatly appreciated. BC -- "So where's the Cannes Film Festival being held this year?" Christina Aquilera From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu Sep 30 06:55:01 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:55:01 +1000 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: <4CA4317E.3060705@optonline.net> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> <4CA42FDB.9050606@iinet.net.au> <4CA43092.3010708@iinet.net.au> <4CA4317E.3060705@optonline.net> Message-ID: <4CA43445.3070707@iinet.net.au> On 30/09/2010 16:43, Doug wrote: > On 9/30/2010 2:39 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > >> On 30/09/2010 16:36, Basil Chupin wrote: >> >> [pruned] >> >> >>> And NO smart retorts from the peanut gallery - are you listening RC?! >>> :-D .) >>> >> Oh dear...that should read "RM" and not "RC" :-( . >> >> Blame it on the Bossa nova.... >> >> BC >> >> > Why? What did the new boss do? > > --doug > Have you heard the story about the organs of the body arguing about who really "runs the show" - who's really "the boss"? BC -- "So where's the Cannes Film Festival being held this year?" Christina Aquilera From theunknownandrew at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 07:19:01 2010 From: theunknownandrew at gmail.com (d~_*b) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:49:01 +0530 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: <4CA43445.3070707@iinet.net.au> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> <4CA42FDB.9050606@iinet.net.au> <4CA43092.3010708@iinet.net.au> <4CA4317E.3060705@optonline.net> <4CA43445.3070707@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Thursday, September 30, 2010, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 30/09/2010 16:43, Doug wrote: >> On 9/30/2010 2:39 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >> >>> On 30/09/2010 16:36, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> >>> [pruned] >>> >>> >>>> And NO smart retorts from the peanut gallery - are you listening RC?! >>>> :-D .) >>>> >>> Oh dear...that should read "RM" and not "RC" :-( . >>> >>> Blame it on the Bossa nova.... >>> >>> BC >>> >>> >> Why?  What did the new boss do? >> >> --doug >> > > Have you heard the story about the organs of the body arguing about who > really "runs the show" - who's really "the boss"? > > BC > & if I am not wrong then I guess it's the a**h**e that wins the argument right? -- -- & RU d~_*b From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu Sep 30 07:35:38 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:35:38 +1000 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? ADDENDUM In-Reply-To: References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA298FA.6050502@iinet.net.au> <201009282347.27997.msh@farsight-data.com> <4CA2E1B0.2010406@iinet.net.au> <4CA31F84.9060604@iinet.net.au> <4CA42FDB.9050606@iinet.net.au> <4CA43092.3010708@iinet.net.au> <4CA4317E.3060705@optonline.net> <4CA43445.3070707@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4CA43DCA.3020001@iinet.net.au> On 30/09/2010 17:19, d~_*b wrote: > On Thursday, September 30, 2010, Basil Chupin wrote: > >> On 30/09/2010 16:43, Doug wrote: >> >>> On 9/30/2010 2:39 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 30/09/2010 16:36, Basil Chupin wrote: >>>> >>>> [pruned] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> And NO smart retorts from the peanut gallery - are you listening RC?! >>>>> :-D .) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Oh dear...that should read "RM" and not "RC" :-( . >>>> >>>> Blame it on the Bossa nova.... >>>> >>>> BC >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Why? Â What did the new boss do? >>> >>> --doug >>> >>> >> Have you heard the story about the organs of the body arguing about who >> really "runs the show" - who's really "the boss"? >> >> BC >> >> > & if I am not wrong then I guess it's the a**h**e that wins the argument right? > You party-pooper you (no pun intended, of course) :-) . BC -- "So where's the Cannes Film Festival being held this year?" Christina Aquilera From bqz69 at telia.com Thu Sep 30 08:43:30 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Thunderbird won't open http: links in firefox References: <4CA121E6.4060209@cunning.ods.org> <4CA3A086.6050607@fastmail.fm> <4CA3FEB0.3030203@cunning.ods.org> <4CA4132B.6010205@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: system >preferences>preferred Applications web browser = custom Command = icecat %s (or possibly firefox %s) This to be done in gnome? From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Thu Sep 30 11:42:08 2010 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:42:08 +0100 Subject: Graphics tablets Message-ID: <201009301242.09328.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Thinking about getting a graphics tablet for my daughter to be used with Kubuntu 10.04/.10 and programs like Inkscape and Gimp. Does anyone have any recommendations for ones that work relaibly with Kubuntu, are fairly cheap and available in the UK? -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kovalamjk at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 11:44:56 2010 From: kovalamjk at gmail.com (JK) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:14:56 +0530 Subject: bug Message-ID: I am a new comer to Linux. I am using Kubuntu in my Net book.The bug fixes up to 28/09/2010 was downloaded. The system was running peaceful. Using synaptic I have uninstalled a few packages name starting with X. When I restarted, the login dialogue box appears, receives password then a black screen with the mouse indication only is shown. I am not at all familiar with the commands etc at the recovery mode prompt. Can anyone suggest an easiest method using GUI From gheskett at wdtv.com Thu Sep 30 11:56:15 2010 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 07:56:15 -0400 Subject: bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201009300756.16496.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Thursday, September 30, 2010 07:53:50 am JK did opine: > I am a new comer to Linux. > I am using Kubuntu in my Net book.The bug fixes up to 28/09/2010 was > downloaded. The system was running peaceful. Using synaptic I have > uninstalled a few packages name starting with X. When I restarted, the > login dialogue box appears, receives password then a black screen with > the mouse indication only is shown. I am not at all familiar with the > commands etc at the recovery mode prompt. Can anyone suggest an easiest > method using GUI If you removed a 'bunch of X stuff' then you removed your GUI. Put it back in unless you want to run a text console exclusively. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) We apologize for the inconvenience, but we'd still like you to test out this kernel. -- Linus Torvalds, announcing another kernel patch From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 12:02:50 2010 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:02:50 +0700 Subject: bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 6:44 PM, JK wrote: > I am a new comer to Linux. > I am using Kubuntu in my Net book.The bug fixes up to 28/09/2010 was > downloaded. The system was running peaceful. Using synaptic I have > uninstalled a few packages name starting with X. When I restarted, the > login dialogue box appears, receives password then a black screen with the > mouse indication only is shown. I am not at all familiar with the commands > etc at the recovery mode prompt. Can anyone suggest an easiest method > using GUI Easiest method using gui is re-install. Otherwise you have to use command line. DK From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu Sep 30 12:26:12 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 07:26:12 -0500 Subject: Graphics tablets In-Reply-To: <201009301242.09328.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <201009301242.09328.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <4CA481E4.2080104@swbell.net> On 09/30/2010 06:42 AM, Mark Fraser wrote: > > Thinking about getting a graphics tablet for my daughter to be used > with Kubuntu 10.04/.10 and programs like Inkscape and Gimp. > > Does anyone have any recommendations for ones that work relaibly with > Kubuntu, are fairly cheap and available in the UK? > > -- > > Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org > > > I've got a Wacom Bamboo Pen and Touch, CTH 466 if I remember right. I've jumped through hoops trying to get that thing to function. I did get it working once but then a reboot and it was gone. I finally decided it was way more trouble than it was worth. I keep an old computer around running Windows for those times when you just can't do it in Linux so that's where it's at now. YMMV -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sarunas at math.dartmouth.edu Thu Sep 30 12:59:35 2010 From: sarunas at math.dartmouth.edu (Sarunas Burdulis) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:59:35 -0400 Subject: bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CA489B7.40802@math.dartmouth.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/30/2010 07:44 AM, JK wrote: > I am a new comer to Linux. > I am using Kubuntu in my Net book.The bug fixes up to 28/09/2010 was > downloaded. The system was running peaceful. Using synaptic I have > uninstalled a few packages name starting with X. When I restarted, the > login dialogue box appears, receives password then a black screen with the > mouse indication only is shown. Press Ctrl+Alt+F1. Do you get a login prompt? If yes, log in with your usual username and password and at the command prompt type: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kubuntu-desktop This will install a lot of packages, so you have to be on a fast Internet connection. However, in case you remember, which X packages you uninstalled, then instead of reinstalling the entire kubuntu-desktop, install only those packages back: sudo apt-get install package1 package2 packageN After reinstall, restart kdm: sudo service kdm restart If the system doesn't switch to graphical login dialogue automatically, you may try switching to it with Alt+F7 or Alt+F8. Šarūnas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkykibcACgkQejaFVltl6E/K4wCfSteSUqUCcfAcn8YQ5o1ZmCS9 6H8An2gjH7OuJBNoHwoNT8/ZBTA6W+GV =A+vg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From valtermura at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 15:32:15 2010 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:32:15 +0200 Subject: Which USB Scanners work? In-Reply-To: <1285698277.27378.318.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <201009281131.32006.msh@farsight-data.com> <1285698277.27378.318.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <201009301732.16120.valtermura@gmail.com> In data martedì 28 settembre 2010 20:24:37, Ric Moore ha scritto: > > Price at or under $150 > > USB 2.0 > > Can scan at minimum of 600 DPI (higher would be better) > > Can anyone help me with choosing a scanner with the above parameters? > > Just about any of the HP All-in-One printers with a built in scanner > seems to work just fine. I love mine. I just hate how expensive it is to > use one as a printer. They are cheap though. I just keep mine full of > ink so that it will work as a scanner. Ric My (yet) old HP Photosmart C5180 All-in-one works quite well for every purposes, printing, copying, photo printing, scanning. 6 ink cartridges, separated, usb 2.0, lan port, memory slots, both Windows/Mac/Linux, and costed under 100 Euros... I'm quite satisfied by this product. -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From jcunning at cunning.ods.org Thu Sep 30 16:50:58 2010 From: jcunning at cunning.ods.org (Jim Cunning) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:50:58 -0700 Subject: Thunderbird won't open http: links in firefox In-Reply-To: <4CA4132B.6010205@fastmail.fm> References: <4CA121E6.4060209@cunning.ods.org> <4CA3A086.6050607@fastmail.fm> <4CA3FEB0.3030203@cunning.ods.org> <4CA4132B.6010205@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <4CA4BFF2.1050001@cunning.ods.org> On 09/29/2010 09:33 PM, Karl Klinger wrote: > On 2010-09-29 20:06, Jim Cunning wrote: > >> Karl Klinger wrote: >> >>> On 2010-09-27 15:59, Jim Cunning wrote: >>> >>> >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> I am having trouble getting thunderbird to open firefox when I click >>>> on http: links in mail messages. >>>> >>>> 1. I've set the following in prefs.js: >>>> user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.https", >>>> "/usr/bin/firefox"); >>>> user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", >>>> "/usr/bin/firefox"); >>>> 2. I've set firefox as my default browser in Menu->System >>>> Settings->Default Applications >>>> 3. I have installed firefox-gnome-support. >>>> >>>> When I click on an http: or https: link, thunderbird displays the >>>> "finger pointing" cursor and outlines the link, but does nothing >>>> else. When I right click on the link in the message, I get a pop-up >>>> with choices for "Select All", "Convert to->", Copy Link Location", >>>> "Save Link Target", and "Report E-mail Scam". There is no choice like >>>> "Open with..." >>>> >>>> What do I need to add or select in KDE, firefox, or thunderbird to get >>>> this to work? >>>> >>>> >>> In the thunderbird menu: >>> Edit -> Preferences >>> >>> Choose the Attachments tab in the Preferences dialog. In the Action >>> drop down lists for http and https chose "Use Firefox (default)". >>> >>> I recently had this stop working for unknown reasons. I changed the >>> choice to "Always ask" and then back again, and now it works again. >>> >>> Karl >>> >>> >> Thanks, Karl, but unfortunately there is nothing listed in the Action >> drop down list, and there appears to be no way to add a new action. >> Perhaps that the root problem, so how does one go about creating a new >> action in the Thunderbird preferences? >> >> > First of all, to make sure we're on the same wavelength, I'm using the > 3.0.8 version of Thunderbird. > > What appears in the list seems to be controlled by this file in the home > directory: > > .mozilla-thunderbird/xxxxxxxx.default/mimeTypes.rdf > > where xxxxxxxx is a random string. When I renamed this file I came up > with an empty list. > > This is the contents of my file: > > > xmlns:RDF="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"> > RDF:about="urn:mimetype:externalApplication:application/pdf" > NC:path="/usr/lib/Adobe/Reader8/bin/acroread" > NC:prettyName="acroread" /> > NC:useSystemDefault="true" > NC:alwaysAsk="false" /> > NC:value="application/pdf" > NC:editable="true" > NC:fileExtensions="pdf" > NC:description="PDF document"> > > > NC:useSystemDefault="true" > NC:alwaysAsk="false" /> > > > > > > > > > > NC:alwaysAsk="false" > NC:saveToDisk="false" > NC:useSystemDefault="false" > NC:handleInternal="false"> > RDF:resource="urn:mimetype:externalApplication:application/pdf"/> > > NC:value="https"> > > > NC:value="http"> > > > NC:en-US_defaultHandlersVersion="-1" /> > > > > > > > You could try pasting this into your file and see if it works. > > Karl > > > Karl, My mimeTypes.rdf contained only the following lines (after a bunch of xml comments): There also was an identical version of the file in a subdirectory named "US" in the xxxxxxxx.default directory. I even completely removed the .mozilla-thunderbird directory in my home directory, removed and reinstalled the packages thunderbird, enigmail and lightning-extension. I am running kubuntu 9.10 on amd64, and the version of thunderbird that gets installed is 2.0.0.24. When I replaced my versions of mimeTypes.rdf with yours (in both places), the Actions list is no longer empty, but only lists "Open with okular" for PDF documents. Even though http and https are listed in the mimeTypes.rdf file, no corresponding action appears. From gkourtev at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 16:55:46 2010 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:55:46 +0300 Subject: Question fresh install Message-ID: <201009301955.47061.gkourtev@gmail.com> Dear all, I have a production machine that was my first-ever 100% linux machine. I started with Kubuntu 8.04 and during the past two years I have just upgraded the OS and now I run with 10.04.1., KDE 4.5.1. All is fine but due to the fact that this was my 'first-ever-machine' with linux (now my whole office with 7 PCs is with Kubuntu), I was using it to experiment everything that I wanted to try. As I am not expert, I found out that after two years it started to work rather slow. For example, the login takes about 1,5-2 minutes, after opening Kontact, I need to wait for about 5-8 minutes for some disk-work that blocks everything, etc. So I decided to do a fresh install soon after 10.10 is available with /home on a separate partition. My question is what should I do to preserve all my work on that machine (which is my primary office production machine)? I do back-ups every week. It is obvious that I will need to copy back all files from my Documents, Pictures and all the rest visible directories under /home. Also to follow some of the instruction to migrate my mails/addresses/calendar entries into the new install. What else? Any advice that will make my life easier is appreciated. Many thanks, gk From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu Sep 30 17:49:41 2010 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Question fresh install In-Reply-To: <1490198832.36552.1285868680693.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1064576083.36840.1285868981932.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> You may not need to reinstall. It sounds like much of your problem is with user configuration rather than system configuration. Try creating a new user account and see whether it runs fast. If it does, you could migrate individual application config files to the new account (changing owner/group names) until you figure out what's causing the slowdown. Back up older/unused Kontact data?? You might also check to see whether you have really large log files that could be purged? Just some thoughts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgi Kourtev" To: "Kubuntu user technical support" Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:55:46 PM Subject: Question fresh install Dear all, I have a production machine that was my first-ever 100% linux machine. I started with Kubuntu 8.04 and during the past two years I have just upgraded the OS and now I run with 10.04.1., KDE 4.5.1. All is fine but due to the fact that this was my 'first-ever-machine' with linux (now my whole office with 7 PCs is with Kubuntu), I was using it to experiment everything that I wanted to try. As I am not expert, I found out that after two years it started to work rather slow. For example, the login takes about 1,5-2 minutes, after opening Kontact, I need to wait for about 5-8 minutes for some disk-work that blocks everything, etc. So I decided to do a fresh install soon after 10.10 is available with /home on a separate partition. My question is what should I do to preserve all my work on that machine (which is my primary office production machine)? I do back-ups every week. It is obvious that I will need to copy back all files from my Documents, Pictures and all the rest visible directories under /home. Also to follow some of the instruction to migrate my mails/addresses/calendar entries into the new install. What else? Any advice that will make my life easier is appreciated. Many thanks, gk -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valtermura at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 17:56:03 2010 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:56:03 +0200 Subject: Question fresh install In-Reply-To: <201009301955.47061.gkourtev@gmail.com> References: <201009301955.47061.gkourtev@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201009301956.03901.valtermura@gmail.com> In data giovedì 30 settembre 2010 18:55:46, Georgi Kourtev ha scritto: > Dear all, > > I have a production machine that was my first-ever 100% linux machine. I > started with Kubuntu 8.04 and during the past two years I have just > upgraded the OS and now I run with 10.04.1., KDE 4.5.1. > > All is fine but due to the fact that this was my 'first-ever-machine' with > linux (now my whole office with 7 PCs is with Kubuntu), I was using it to > experiment everything that I wanted to try. As I am not expert, I found > out that after two years it started to work rather slow. For example, the > login takes about 1,5-2 minutes, after opening Kontact, I need to wait for > about 5-8 minutes for some disk-work that blocks everything, etc. > > So I decided to do a fresh install soon after 10.10 is available with /home > on a separate partition. My question is what should I do to preserve all > my work on that machine (which is my primary office production machine)? > I do back-ups every week. It is obvious that I will need to copy back all > files from my Documents, Pictures and all the rest visible directories > under /home. Also to follow some of the instruction to migrate my > mails/addresses/calendar entries into the new install. > > What else? Any advice that will make my life easier is appreciated. AFAIK, IMHO, you need to backup the entire Home directory, hidden files included, in which all settings are stored. Regards, -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From mmtsales at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 18:21:11 2010 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:21:11 -0300 Subject: Graphics tablets In-Reply-To: <4CA481E4.2080104@swbell.net> References: <201009301242.09328.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <4CA481E4.2080104@swbell.net> Message-ID: <201009301521.11605.mmtsales@gmail.com> Em quinta-feira 30 setembro 2010, Billie Walsh escreveu: > On 09/30/2010 06:42 AM, Mark Fraser wrote: > > Thinking about getting a graphics tablet for my daughter to be used > > with Kubuntu 10.04/.10 and programs like Inkscape and Gimp. > > > > Does anyone have any recommendations for ones that work relaibly > > with Kubuntu, are fairly cheap and available in the UK? > > > > > > Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org > > I've got a Wacom Bamboo Pen and Touch, CTH 466 if I remember right. > I've jumped through hoops trying to get that thing to function. I > did get it working once but then a reboot and it was gone. I finally > decided it was way more trouble than it was worth. I keep an old > computer around running Windows for those times when you just can't > do it in Linux so that's where it's at now. I have a Wacom Bamboo and it worked perfectly fine in Kubuntu, 100% plug and play, no special configuration needed. Just had to register it in Gimp, that's all. Didn't try Inkscape. []'s Marcelo From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Sep 30 18:40:29 2010 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:40:29 -0400 Subject: Question fresh install In-Reply-To: <201009301955.47061.gkourtev@gmail.com> References: <201009301955.47061.gkourtev@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201009301440.29091.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Thursday, September 30, 2010, Georgi Kourtev wrote: > So I decided to do a fresh install soon after 10.10 is available with /home > on a separate partition. My question is what should I do to preserve all > my work on that machine (which is my primary office production > machine)? I do back-ups every week. It is obvious that I will need to > copy back all files from my Documents, Pictures and all the rest visible > directories under /home. Also to follow some of the instruction to migrate > my mails/addresses/calendar entries into the new install. If you have the disk space to put a new /home partition along side your current install (9.10??) then just use rsync to copy over all your current /home files to the new partition and then do your new install. From wayward4now at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 19:12:03 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:12:03 -0400 Subject: Question fresh install In-Reply-To: <201009301956.03901.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <201009301955.47061.gkourtev@gmail.com> <201009301956.03901.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1285873923.27378.2160.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 19:56 +0200, Valter Mura wrote: > In data giovedì 30 settembre 2010 18:55:46, Georgi Kourtev ha scritto: > > > Dear all, > > > > I have a production machine that was my first-ever 100% linux machine. I > > started with Kubuntu 8.04 and during the past two years I have just > > upgraded the OS and now I run with 10.04.1., KDE 4.5.1. > > > > All is fine but due to the fact that this was my 'first-ever-machine' with > > linux (now my whole office with 7 PCs is with Kubuntu), I was using it to > > experiment everything that I wanted to try. As I am not expert, I found > > out that after two years it started to work rather slow. For example, the > > login takes about 1,5-2 minutes, after opening Kontact, I need to wait for > > about 5-8 minutes for some disk-work that blocks everything, etc. > > > > So I decided to do a fresh install soon after 10.10 is available with /home > > on a separate partition. My question is what should I do to preserve all > > my work on that machine (which is my primary office production machine)? > > I do back-ups every week. It is obvious that I will need to copy back all > > files from my Documents, Pictures and all the rest visible directories > > under /home. Also to follow some of the instruction to migrate my > > mails/addresses/calendar entries into the new install. > > > > What else? Any advice that will make my life easier is appreciated. > > AFAIK, IMHO, you need to backup the entire Home directory, hidden files > included, in which all settings are stored. Sometimes that isn't a good plan. IMHO, let the new install set it's own .config files. THEN dink with them, if you must, one at a time, until something blows up. Me, I have long ceased to bother with them. Other than my .mail folder, I haven't missed anything using the fresh .config files and seem to have less problems than most who upgrade using them. Just my four cents. I do backup and restore my ~/home/user/ directories. Then I re-install them back, without worrying about upsetting the new config files. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 From cguilbert at picasso.ucsf.edu Thu Sep 30 20:12:01 2010 From: cguilbert at picasso.ucsf.edu (Christophe Guilbert) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:12:01 -0700 Subject: Graphics configuration to configure a static address for my wired connection Message-ID: <4CA4EF11.5070200@picasso.ucsf.edu> One of the first things I do after installing a distro is give the network a static address (to fit nicely in my network). When starting the Knetwork configuration manager I was looking for my wired connection – and it just was not there! Using the graphics configuration to configure a static address for my wired connection is simply impossible. Googling this issues shows that the bug has been addressed but never corrected. I could not see any alternative to setup a static IP in the kubuntu documentation Sure I can use a terminal and change the setting by myself. To tell you the truth it could just turn away people from using KDE. This is a basic thing you should be able to do without googling it, like we use to do under KDE3. I spent more than 10 years with KDE, I did convert more than 20 people to use linux/kde as their only OS. I am really thinking of moving to a different desktop now. KDE4 is just a beautiful (if not the most beautiful desktop out there), but for me , functionality prime over beauty . it is totally useless if you constantly need to google to do things that are as basic as setting a static IP address. why this problem has not been corrected since kubuntu 10.04 came out ? Maybe I miss something here , do you know how to do it under knetwork (which is the network manager installed by default) Thanks for any help. Chris -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christophe Guilbert, Ph.D. Mission Bay Genentech Hall UCSF, Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry 600 16th Street, Suite # S-126-D Genentech Hall, MC 2280 San Francisco, CA 94158-2517 Office : 415-476-0707 Office fax : 415-476-0688 Email: cguilbert at picasso.ucsf.edu http://mondale.ucsf.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Sun Microsystems From dave at thefletchers.net Thu Sep 30 21:12:33 2010 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:12:33 +0100 Subject: Question fresh install In-Reply-To: <201009301956.03901.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <201009301955.47061.gkourtev@gmail.com> <201009301956.03901.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1285881153.1438.20.camel@little-VIA> > > > > What else? Any advice that will make my life easier is appreciated. > > AFAIK, IMHO, you need to backup the entire Home directory, hidden files > included, in which all settings are stored. > Here is my script for backing up my PC home and /etc/:- #! /bin/bash # Local etc directory rsync -av --delete /etc/ /home/dave/backups/copyoflocalslashetc/ # List of applications - this was provided by a Kubuntu list # posting a while back. I don't understand how it works # but it appears to work aptitude search '~i !~M' | tr -s ' ' | cut -f 2 -d ' ' > /home/dave/backups/AppsInstalledList.txt tar cvpfz /root/home`date +%Y%m%d%H%M`.tar.gz --exclude=Cache --exclude=.googleearth --exclude=.thumbnails /home/* Just adjust the name of the home directory to suit. Can't remember whether it's necessary to manually create the backup directory for rsync or not. I store the script in /home/ and run it as sudo. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu Sep 30 21:40:24 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:40:24 -0500 Subject: Graphics configuration to configure a static address for my wired connection In-Reply-To: <4CA4EF11.5070200@picasso.ucsf.edu> References: <4CA4EF11.5070200@picasso.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: <4CA503C8.7060200@swbell.net> On 09/30/2010 03:12 PM, Christophe Guilbert wrote: > One of the first things I do after installing a distro is give the > network a static address (to fit nicely in my network). When starting > the Knetwork configuration manager I was looking for my wired connection > – and it just was not there! Using the graphics configuration to > configure a static address for my wired connection is simply impossible. > Googling this issues shows that the bug has been addressed but never > corrected. I could not see any alternative to setup a static IP in the > kubuntu documentation > > Sure I can use a terminal and change the setting by myself. To tell you > the truth it could just turn away people from using KDE. > This is a basic thing you should be able to do without googling it, like > we use to do under KDE3. > I spent more than 10 years with KDE, I did convert more than 20 people > to use linux/kde as their only OS. I am really thinking of moving to a > different desktop now. > KDE4 is just a beautiful (if not the most beautiful desktop out there), > but for me , functionality prime over beauty . it is totally useless if > you constantly need to google to do things that are as basic as setting > a static IP address. why this problem has not been corrected since > kubuntu 10.04 came out ? > > Maybe I miss something here , do you know how to do it under knetwork > (which is the network manager installed by default) > > Thanks for any help. > > Chris > > Do I have it wrong that if you go to System Settings > Network Settings > Network Connections > Add you can set up your connection with a fixed address? -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington