From multilingus at gmx.de Sat May 1 00:09:57 2010 From: multilingus at gmx.de (Mario Andes) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 02:09:57 +0200 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: <201004301903.05248.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <4BDB2849.7080003@gmx.com> <201004301903.05248.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: Hi Bruce, in /etc/default/grub initially GRUB_DEFAULT is set to 'saved'. You can set it to 0 fir the first entry in the list and so forth until the number of the last entry. Afterwards when starting a system its number is saved in in variable 'saved' so the next time you start the system this number will be used if you have set GRUB_DEFAULT='saved'. That is what I expected to happen as set with 09.10! BUT NOTHING! /etc/default/grub and /boot/grub/grub.cfg (translated vesion it) are ok and the system always starts with the first entry of the list. Apparently /etc/default/grub ist not translated correctly. Unfortunately I sdo not know when and where it is translated. I suppose the sources are corrupted, update-grub doesn't work or isn't compiled well when installing. The Upgrade was loaded, compiled and installed automatically in 1 to 2 hours loading the sources by internet and doing the rest on my computer with 09.10. As 09.10 worked well all the time something during compilation must have happened. Maybe somebody knows this error and what to change! Regards Mario On Sat, 01 May 2010 01:03:05 +0200, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Friday, April 30, 2010, Mario Andes wrote: >> Lucid Lynx' grub doesn't start but the first system in the list! >> Sure, I can select another one. The advantage of grub 2 was that I >> didn't >> have to select a system every time. > > Maybe there is a feature of grub that I never knew about, but grub for > me has > always started the "default system". That default system is defined > as the > number of the entry of the system in the list of systems grub knows > about. > > The normal default = 0 as the system is installed, and that is what > you are > seeing happen. > > The default is defined in /etc/default/grub as: > > GRUB_DEFAULT=0 > > If you want it to boot some other system entry, change the above to be > the > number of that entry in the list. > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sat May 1 00:47:14 2010 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 01:47:14 +0100 Subject: Miro problem on Lucid Lynx Message-ID: <4BDB7A12.8020904@tiscali.co.uk> I just upgraded to Lucid from Karmic and the only problems I had were the upgrade tool crashed at 99% and Miro no longer has sound. I fixed the crash by a reboot into recovery mode and got dpkg to fix all packages. I can't find any reason for Miro not to play sound. I ran it from a konsole and it seems to have lost xinerenderer... but it plays videos ok just without sound. I'm confused. Can anyone help? [I just noticed that my sig is not being attached... hmmm] Wulfmann From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sat May 1 04:49:19 2010 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 07:49:19 +0300 Subject: 10.04 upgrade In-Reply-To: <4BDA687B.7090103@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4BDA687B.7090103@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <4BDBB2CF.4090404@prayingforisrael.net> On 04/30/2010 08:19 AM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > Any of you guys done the upgrade yet from 9.10 yet? > Any problems or a no-brainer? > > I think I shall wait a bit as this is my main production box. > > Nigel > A couple of questions: How long did the upgrade from 9.10 take approx ? And was there any problems with non-standard repo app installs? Nigel From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sat May 1 05:00:26 2010 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 08:00:26 +0300 Subject: 10.04 upgrade In-Reply-To: <4BDBB2CF.4090404@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4BDA687B.7090103@prayingforisrael.net> <4BDBB2CF.4090404@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <4BDBB56A.8050202@prayingforisrael.net> On 05/01/2010 07:49 AM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 04/30/2010 08:19 AM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> Any of you guys done the upgrade yet from 9.10 yet? >> Any problems or a no-brainer? >> >> I think I shall wait a bit as this is my main production box. >> >> Nigel >> > > A couple of questions: > > How long did the upgrade from 9.10 take approx ? > And was there any problems with non-standard repo app installs? > > Nigel > I should have added: Does the upgrade get rid of all the previously installed kernels? If not, how does one clear them out? Nigel From jonorland at gmail.com Sat May 1 06:27:05 2010 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 08:27:05 +0200 Subject: 10.04 upgrade In-Reply-To: <4BDBB56A.8050202@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4BDA687B.7090103@prayingforisrael.net> <4BDBB2CF.4090404@prayingforisrael.net> <4BDBB56A.8050202@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: On 1 May 2010 07:00, Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 05/01/2010 07:49 AM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> On 04/30/2010 08:19 AM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>> Any of you guys done the upgrade yet from 9.10 yet? >>> Any problems or a no-brainer? >>> >>> I think I shall wait a bit as this is my main production box. >>> >>> Nigel >>> >> >> A couple of questions: >> >> How long did the upgrade from 9.10 take approx ? >> And was there any problems with non-standard repo app installs? >> >> Nigel >> > > I should have added: > Does the upgrade get rid of all the previously installed kernels? > If not, how does one clear them out? > > Nigel The upgrade took perhaps four hours. I had good speed downloading the packages and it was 2500Mb to download. The download speed was OK for me but I guess it can make big difference what mirrors one is using. I had no problems with packages from other sources like Medibuntu or Kubuntu Backports PPA. The only upgrade problem (I have problems but not related to the upgrade process) I had was with Grub. The older kernels is not removed but they should be easy to remove with aptitude (look under under "obsolete packages"). I forgot there was one more problem with the upgrade. I had CDemu installed from a PPA and there was a problem with removing it. I had to add the cdemu group to be able to finish the purge of CDemu. / Jonas From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 1 06:41:35 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 08:41:35 +0200 Subject: 10.04 upgrade In-Reply-To: <4BDBB56A.8050202@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4BDA687B.7090103@prayingforisrael.net> <4BDBB2CF.4090404@prayingforisrael.net> <4BDBB56A.8050202@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <201005010841.35844.kassube@gmx.net> Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 05/01/2010 07:49 AM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > > How long did the upgrade from 9.10 take approx ? That depends on your network bandwidth, the amount of installed packages and on your machine speed. Generally it takes about as long as installing the same amount of packages for the first time because the upgrade just replaces the existing packages with the ones from the new release. It is nearly a week ago that did the last upgrade 9.10 -> 10.04 on a 1.7GHz Pentium M machine and IIRC it was about 1 hour with only a few extra packages installed. > > And was there any problems with non-standard repo app installs? The upgrade disables non-standard repos and you will have to enable them again after the upgrade. I never had such problems with upgrades, but maybe it depends on the particular apps. > Does the upgrade get rid of all the previously installed kernels? No. > If not, how does one clear them out? After the upgrade uninstall the old linux-image-* and linux-headers-* packages using your preferred package manager. Nils From wayward4now at gmail.com Sat May 1 07:15:19 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 03:15:19 -0400 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: References: <20100430160233.GB12970@3LockBox> <4BDB2849.7080003@gmx.com> Message-ID: <1272698119.27469.5.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Fri, 2010-04-30 at 23:39 +0200, Mario Andes wrote: > Hi Tom, > > grub.cfg in /boot/grub is exactly as you have written... > > Regards Mario Please don't top post Mario. Thanx, Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From mmm286 at gmail.com Sat May 1 13:18:40 2010 From: mmm286 at gmail.com (mierdatutis mi) Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 15:18:40 +0200 Subject: error after upgrade to kubuntu 10.04 Message-ID: Hi, I have an error after upgrade to kubuntu 10.04. When I do startx it says me: ...... undefined symbol:UpdateSpritefoScreen Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so Could you help me please? Many thanks and sorry for my english! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 1 14:01:31 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 16:01:31 +0200 Subject: error after upgrade to kubuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201005011601.31506.kassube@gmx.net> mierdatutis mi wrote: > I have an error after upgrade to kubuntu 10.04. > When I do startx it says me: > Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so To me it looks like you were using the proprietary ATI driver before the upgrade and it isn't in your new system any more. I'm not really familiar with ATI cards, but I think you should have a file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" and with that file xorg is setup to use the proprietary driver. I would rename that file like this sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak and then try the startx command again. Then xorg should automatically select an available driver like vesa. It may run in low graphics mode but then you can at least login and try to install the proprietary ATI driver again. That would be at K-menu -> Programs -> System -> Hardware Drivers (I hope I guessed the English terms right). If that doesn't work, you could revert to the state before renaming the xorg.conf with the command sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf Nils From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat May 1 14:29:58 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 09:29:58 -0500 Subject: 10.04 upgrade In-Reply-To: <4BDBB2CF.4090404@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4BDA687B.7090103@prayingforisrael.net> <4BDBB2CF.4090404@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <4BDC3AE6.1040308@swbell.net> On 04/30/2010 11:49 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 04/30/2010 08:19 AM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > >> Any of you guys done the upgrade yet from 9.10 yet? >> Any problems or a no-brainer? >> >> I think I shall wait a bit as this is my main production box. >> >> Nigel >> >> > A couple of questions: > > How long did the upgrade from 9.10 take approx ? > And was there any problems with non-standard repo app installs? > > Nigel > > I started my upgrade last night/this morning at about midnight. The system rebooted somewhere a bit after nine this morning. It was just finishing downloading files a little after six when I got up. Download speed when first started was somewhere around 56kbs and finished up somewhere around 35kbs. I don't know if it was server load or just slow servers. We have a 1.5meg both ways connection so I'm relatively sure the slow speed wasn't on our end. -- Some people are like Slinky's. Not good for much but fun to watch when you push them down the stairs. Sent with Thunderbird on my Kubuntu Linux Desktop From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat May 1 15:14:50 2010 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 09:14:50 -0600 Subject: Virtualbox after 10.04 upgrade In-Reply-To: <201004301433.15422.gkourtev@gmail.com> References: <201004301433.15422.gkourtev@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BDC456A.5010405@gmail.com> Georgi Kourtev said the following at 04/30/2010 05:33 AM : > Hi, > > After the upgrade my virtaulbox mashine stopped working. While truing to run > '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' I got message that the vboxdrv module cannot be > unloaded. > > I tried to remove virtualbox-3.1 as I assumed this might be a kernel problem > and aptitude advised me to remove also these packages. Is there any more news on this problem? I rely on virtualbox and I'm not going to move to lucid if there's any chance that virtualbox isn't going to work. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sat May 1 15:54:59 2010 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 18:54:59 +0300 Subject: 10.04 upgrade In-Reply-To: <4BDC3AE6.1040308@swbell.net> References: <4BDA687B.7090103@prayingforisrael.net> <4BDBB2CF.4090404@prayingforisrael.net> <4BDC3AE6.1040308@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4BDC4ED3.2060506@prayingforisrael.net> On 05/01/2010 05:29 PM, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > On 04/30/2010 11:49 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> On 04/30/2010 08:19 AM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> >>> Any of you guys done the upgrade yet from 9.10 yet? >>> Any problems or a no-brainer? >>> >>> I think I shall wait a bit as this is my main production box. >>> >>> Nigel >>> >>> >> A couple of questions: >> >> How long did the upgrade from 9.10 take approx ? >> And was there any problems with non-standard repo app installs? >> >> Nigel >> >> > > I started my upgrade last night/this morning at about midnight. The > system rebooted somewhere a bit after nine this morning. It was just > finishing downloading files a little after six when I got up. Download > speed when first started was somewhere around 56kbs and finished up > somewhere around 35kbs. I don't know if it was server load or just slow > servers. We have a 1.5meg both ways connection so I'm relatively sure > the slow speed wasn't on our end. > I'm doing the upgrade now it it is soooooo slow -- it varies from about 8 - 15kbs :-( I did a dist-upgrade before deciding to do the upgrade and it was downloading at around 1.040kbs. It must be the servers being hammered.... From claydoh at midmaine.com Sat May 1 16:55:27 2010 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 12:55:27 -0400 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: References: <201004301903.05248.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Friday, April 30, 2010 08:09:57 pm Mario Andes wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > in /etc/default/grub initially GRUB_DEFAULT is set to 'saved'. You can set > it to 0 fir the first entry in the list and so forth until the number of > the > last entry. > Afterwards when starting a system its number is saved in in variable > 'saved' > so the next time you start the system this number will be used if you have > set GRUB_DEFAULT='saved'. > That is what I expected to happen as set with 09.10! > BUT NOTHING! /etc/default/grub and /boot/grub/grub.cfg (translated vesion > it) > are ok and the system always starts with the first entry of the list. > > Apparently /etc/default/grub ist not translated correctly. > Unfortunately I sdo not know when and where it is translated. > I suppose the sources are corrupted, update-grub doesn't work or isn't > compiled well when installing. > The Upgrade was loaded, compiled and installed automatically in 1 to 2 > hours > loading the sources by internet and doing the rest on my computer with > 09.10. > > As 09.10 worked well all the time something during compilation must have > happened. > > Maybe somebody knows this error and what to change! > > Regards Mario > > On Sat, 01 May 2010 01:03:05 +0200, Bruce Marshall > > wrote: > > On Friday, April 30, 2010, Mario Andes wrote: > >> Lucid Lynx' grub doesn't start but the first system in the list! > >> Sure, I can select another one. The advantage of grub 2 was that I > >> didn't > >> have to select a system every time. > > > > Maybe there is a feature of grub that I never knew about, but grub for > > me has > > always started the "default system". That default system is defined > > as the > > number of the entry of the system in the list of systems grub knows > > about. > > > > The normal default = 0 as the system is installed, and that is what > > you are > > seeing happen. > > > > The default is defined in /etc/default/grub as: > > > > GRUB_DEFAULT=0 > > > > If you want it to boot some other system entry, change the above to be > > the > > number of that entry in the list. Have you looked at the documentation here?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring GRUB 2 "GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT= If set to true this setting will automatically set the last selected OS from the menu as the default OS on the next boot. No commands need be run to set the default OS. Any time a menuentry is manually selected from the GRUB2 menu, it becomes the default OS." This is probably what you need to add/edit to your /etc/default/grub As for GRUB_DEFAULT, this is what that option is supposed to be doing: "GRUB_DEFAULT=saved The information in this section applies to GRUB 1.98 and later. Enables the "grub-reboot" and "grub-set-default" commands to set the default OS. The default OS will not be set by an interactive selection of an OS from the menu. grub-set-default Sets the default boot entry until changed. The format is sudo grub-set-default X, with X being the menuentry position (starting with 0 as the first entry) or the exact menu string. Examples: sudo grub-set-default 3 or sudo grub-set-default "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.32-15-generic" To obtain the existing menuentry choice number (starting from 0) or the menuentry "string", run grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg" Note the version used above:" 1.98 or above". Karmic uses grub 1.97, and Lucid is using 1.98, so this is probably why you are seeing this change in behavior. clay From multilingus at gmx.de Sat May 1 19:59:21 2010 From: multilingus at gmx.de (Mario Andes) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 21:59:21 +0200 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <201004301903.05248.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: Hi Clay, this constant isn't set! not in /etc/default/grub nor /boot/grub/grub.cfg! Where shall I add the definition of this constant? Regards Mario On Sat, 01 May 2010 18:55:27 +0200, Clay Weber wrote: > On Friday, April 30, 2010 08:09:57 pm Mario Andes wrote: >> Hi Bruce, >> >> in /etc/default/grub initially GRUB_DEFAULT is set to 'saved'. You can > set >> it to 0 fir the first entry in the list and so forth until the number of >> the >> last entry. >> Afterwards when starting a system its number is saved in in variable >> 'saved' >> so the next time you start the system this number will be used if > you have >> set GRUB_DEFAULT='saved'. >> That is what I expected to happen as set with 09.10! >> BUT NOTHING! /etc/default/grub and /boot/grub/grub.cfg (translated > vesion >> it) >> are ok and the system always starts with the first entry of the list. >> >> Apparently /etc/default/grub ist not translated correctly. >> Unfortunately I sdo not know when and where it is translated. >> I suppose the sources are corrupted, update-grub doesn't work or > isn't >> compiled well when installing. >> The Upgrade was loaded, compiled and installed automatically in 1 > to 2 >> hours >> loading the sources by internet and doing the rest on my computer > with >> 09.10. >> >> As 09.10 worked well all the time something during compilation > must have >> happened. >> >> Maybe somebody knows this error and what to change! >> >> Regards Mario >> >> On Sat, 01 May 2010 01:03:05 +0200, Bruce Marshall > >> >> wrote: >> > On Friday, April 30, 2010, Mario Andes wrote: >> >> Lucid Lynx' grub doesn't start but the first system in the list! >> >> Sure, I can select another one. The advantage of grub 2 was > that I >> >> didn't >> >> have to select a system every time. >> > >> > Maybe there is a feature of grub that I never knew about, but > grub for >> > me has >> > always started the "default system". That default system is > defined >> > as the >> > number of the entry of the system in the list of systems grub > knows >> > about. >> > >> > The normal default = 0 as the system is installed, and that is > what >> > you are >> > seeing happen. >> > >> > The default is defined in /etc/default/grub as: >> > >> > GRUB_DEFAULT=0 >> > >> > If you want it to boot some other system entry, change the > above to be >> > the >> > number of that entry in the list. > > Have you looked at the documentation here?: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring GRUB 2 > > "GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT= If set to true this setting will automatically set > the last selected OS from the menu as the default OS on the next > boot. > No commands need be run to set the default OS. > Any time a menuentry is manually selected from the GRUB2 menu, it > becomes the default OS." > > This is probably what you need to add/edit to your /etc/default/grub > > As for GRUB_DEFAULT, this is what that option is supposed to be > doing: > > "GRUB_DEFAULT=saved > The information in this section applies to GRUB 1.98 and later. > Enables the "grub-reboot" and "grub-set-default" commands to set > the default OS. > The default OS will not be set by an interactive selection of an OS > from the menu. > grub-set-default Sets the default boot entry until changed. > The format is sudo grub-set-default X, with X being the menuentry > position (starting with 0 as the first entry) or the exact menu string. > Examples: sudo grub-set-default 3 or sudo grub-set-default "Ubuntu, > Linux 2.6.32-15-generic" > To obtain the existing menuentry choice number (starting from 0) or > the menuentry "string", run grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg" > > Note the version used above:" 1.98 or above". Karmic uses grub 1.97, > and Lucid is using 1.98, so this is probably why you are seeing this > change in behavior. > > clay > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From claydoh at midmaine.com Sat May 1 20:37:51 2010 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 16:37:51 -0400 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: References: <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <201005011637.51835.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Saturday, May 01, 2010 03:59:21 pm Mario Andes wrote: > Hi Clay, > > this constant isn't set! not in /etc/default/grub nor /boot/grub/grub.cfg! > > Where shall I add the definition of this constant? > > Regards Mario > > On Sat, 01 May 2010 18:55:27 +0200, Clay Weber > > wrote: > > On Friday, April 30, 2010 08:09:57 pm Mario Andes wrote: > >> Hi Bruce, > >> > >> in /etc/default/grub initially GRUB_DEFAULT is set to 'saved'. You can > > > > set > > > >> it to 0 fir the first entry in the list and so forth until the number of > >> the > >> last entry. > >> Afterwards when starting a system its number is saved in in variable > >> 'saved' > >> so the next time you start the system this number will be used if > > > > you have > > > >> set GRUB_DEFAULT='saved'. > >> That is what I expected to happen as set with 09.10! > >> BUT NOTHING! /etc/default/grub and /boot/grub/grub.cfg (translated > > > > vesion > > > >> it) > >> are ok and the system always starts with the first entry of the list. > >> > >> Apparently /etc/default/grub ist not translated correctly. > >> Unfortunately I sdo not know when and where it is translated. > >> I suppose the sources are corrupted, update-grub doesn't work or > > > > isn't > > > >> compiled well when installing. > >> The Upgrade was loaded, compiled and installed automatically in 1 > > > > to 2 > > > >> hours > >> loading the sources by internet and doing the rest on my computer > > > > with > > > >> 09.10. > >> > >> As 09.10 worked well all the time something during compilation > > > > must have > > > >> happened. > >> > >> Maybe somebody knows this error and what to change! > >> > >> Regards Mario > >> > >> On Sat, 01 May 2010 01:03:05 +0200, Bruce Marshall > > > > > > > >> wrote: > >> > On Friday, April 30, 2010, Mario Andes wrote: > >> >> Lucid Lynx' grub doesn't start but the first system in the list! > >> >> Sure, I can select another one. The advantage of grub 2 was > > > > that I > > > >> >> didn't > >> >> have to select a system every time. > >> > > >> > Maybe there is a feature of grub that I never knew about, but > > > > grub for > > > >> > me has > >> > always started the "default system". That default system is > > > > defined > > > >> > as the > >> > number of the entry of the system in the list of systems grub > > > > knows > > > >> > about. > >> > > >> > The normal default = 0 as the system is installed, and that is > > > > what > > > >> > you are > >> > seeing happen. > >> > > >> > The default is defined in /etc/default/grub as: > >> > > >> > GRUB_DEFAULT=0 > >> > > >> > If you want it to boot some other system entry, change the > > > > above to be > > > >> > the > >> > number of that entry in the list. > > > > Have you looked at the documentation here?: > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring GRUB 2 > > > > "GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT= If set to true this setting will automatically set > > the last selected OS from the menu as the default OS on the next > > boot. > > No commands need be run to set the default OS. > > Any time a menuentry is manually selected from the GRUB2 menu, it > > becomes the default OS." > > > > This is probably what you need to add/edit to your /etc/default/grub > > > > As for GRUB_DEFAULT, this is what that option is supposed to be > > doing: > > > > "GRUB_DEFAULT=saved > > The information in this section applies to GRUB 1.98 and later. > > Enables the "grub-reboot" and "grub-set-default" commands to set > > the default OS. > > The default OS will not be set by an interactive selection of an OS > > from the menu. > > grub-set-default Sets the default boot entry until changed. > > The format is sudo grub-set-default X, with X being the menuentry > > position (starting with 0 as the first entry) or the exact menu string. > > Examples: sudo grub-set-default 3 or sudo grub-set-default "Ubuntu, > > Linux 2.6.32-15-generic" > > To obtain the existing menuentry choice number (starting from 0) or > > the menuentry "string", run grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg" > > > > Note the version used above:" 1.98 or above". Karmic uses grub 1.97, > > and Lucid is using 1.98, so this is probably why you are seeing this > > change in behavior. > > > > clay Add it to /etc/default grub, you can just put the line: GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true above the GRUB_DEFAULT line, save, and run update-grub clay From multilingus at gmx.de Sat May 1 21:09:16 2010 From: multilingus at gmx.de (Mario Andes) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 23:09:16 +0200 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: <201005011637.51835.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> <201005011637.51835.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: ... >> > This is probably what you need to add/edit to your > /etc/default/grub >> > >> > As for GRUB_DEFAULT, this is what that option is supposed to be >> > doing: >> > >> > "GRUB_DEFAULT=saved >> > The information in this section applies to GRUB 1.98 and later. >> > Enables the "grub-reboot" and "grub-set-default" commands to > set >> > the default OS. >> > The default OS will not be set by an interactive selection of an OS >> > from the menu. >> > grub-set-default Sets the default boot entry until changed. >> > The format is sudo grub-set-default X, with X being the > menuentry >> > position (starting with 0 as the first entry) or the exact menu > string. >> > Examples: sudo grub-set-default 3 or sudo grub-set-default > "Ubuntu, >> > Linux 2.6.32-15-generic" >> > To obtain the existing menuentry choice number (starting from 0) > or >> > the menuentry "string", run grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg" >> > >> > Note the version used above:" 1.98 or above". Karmic uses grub > 1.97, >> > and Lucid is using 1.98, so this is probably why you are seeing > this >> > change in behavior. >> > >> > clay > > Add it to /etc/default grub, you can just put the line: > GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true > above the GRUB_DEFAULT line, save, and run update-grub > > clay > Clay, I added it but nothing has changed. Grub selects always the first entry. If Lucid uses 1.98 why hasn't it been changed with the upgrade from 09.10? Mario -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From claydoh at midmaine.com Sat May 1 22:22:21 2010 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 18:22:21 -0400 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: References: <201005011637.51835.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <201005011822.21738.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Saturday, May 01, 2010 05:09:16 pm Mario Andes wrote: > ... > > >> > This is probably what you need to add/edit to your > > > > /etc/default/grub > > > >> > As for GRUB_DEFAULT, this is what that option is supposed to be > >> > doing: > >> > > >> > "GRUB_DEFAULT=saved > >> > The information in this section applies to GRUB 1.98 and later. > >> > Enables the "grub-reboot" and "grub-set-default" commands to > > > > set > > > >> > the default OS. > >> > The default OS will not be set by an interactive selection of an OS > >> > from the menu. > >> > grub-set-default Sets the default boot entry until changed. > >> > The format is sudo grub-set-default X, with X being the > > > > menuentry > > > >> > position (starting with 0 as the first entry) or the exact menu > > > > string. > > > >> > Examples: sudo grub-set-default 3 or sudo grub-set-default > > > > "Ubuntu, > > > >> > Linux 2.6.32-15-generic" > >> > To obtain the existing menuentry choice number (starting from 0) > > > > or > > > >> > the menuentry "string", run grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg" > >> > > >> > Note the version used above:" 1.98 or above". Karmic uses grub > > > > 1.97, > > > >> > and Lucid is using 1.98, so this is probably why you are seeing > > > > this > > > >> > change in behavior. > >> > > >> > clay > > > > Add it to /etc/default grub, you can just put the line: > > GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true > > above the GRUB_DEFAULT line, save, and run update-grub > > > > clay > > Clay, I added it but nothing has changed. Grub selects always the first > entry. > If Lucid uses 1.98 why hasn't it been changed with the upgrade from 09.10? > > Mario I don't currently have another OS installed to test with :( Perhaps put a "#" in front of the GRUB_DEFAULT line (which will hopefully turn off the option it is setting) and re-reun 'sudo update- grub' clay From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat May 1 22:51:33 2010 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 18:51:33 -0400 Subject: New 10.4 32 bit install, needs dns info Message-ID: <201005011851.33403.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Greetings; This is for the iface eth0 static stanza in /etc/networking/interfaces The net is working locally by hosts file translations, but the manpage for interfaces does not demo how a dns address is passed. And of course, /etc/resolv.conf has no data other than claims to have been generated by network-manager, which I'd druther not fight with when a simple /etc/init.d/networking start should just do it. ISTR on 6.06, I was able to kill NM, and then hand edit resolv.conf, then make it immutable and that was the end of that, but it was also 6.06 and I expect things are done differently now. This should come up on boot using all static addressing. Thanks all. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Procrastination means never having to say you're sorry. From cherryfinals at yahoo.com Sat May 1 22:51:50 2010 From: cherryfinals at yahoo.com (cherryfinals) Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 15:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 10.4 upgrade vs install Message-ID: <295676.35982.qm@web58004.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I've been noticing a lot of complaints both on this list and several others on upgrading from 9.10 to 10.4. Over the last couple of years, I have learned a dear lesson. The lesson is that you should have all your personal data and various configs on a secondary drive. When a new system is released, never, ever use the update function. Over the last five years I've been using Kubuntu, I have yet to see an update work perfectly, first time. During this time, I've installed and updated more than two dozen systems at home and at my office.  I've learned to unplug my secondary drive and perform a new [totally wiped] install to my primary drive, from the CD. After it is installed and tested, I install all my favorite programs and only then, do I plug the secondary drive and redirect my application software to all the old content and WiP.  That's just been my experience and of course, your milage may vary. Good luck! Stan "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat May 1 23:19:59 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 18:19:59 -0500 Subject: 10.4 upgrade vs install In-Reply-To: <295676.35982.qm@web58004.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <295676.35982.qm@web58004.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BDCB71F.1070402@swbell.net> I have to say that my experiences has been just the opposite. I generally upgrade a version or three between fresh installs. Upgrade from9.10 to 10.4 went smooth and no glitches. Just have to learn where the newer versions of some software moved things. On 05/01/2010 05:51 PM, cherryfinals wrote: > > I've been noticing a lot of complaints both on this list and several > others on upgrading from 9.10 to 10.4. > > > Over the last couple of years, I have learned a dear lesson. The > lesson is that you should have all your personal data and various > configs on a secondary drive. When a new system is released, *never, > ever use the update function*. Over the last five years I've been > using Kubuntu, /I have yet to see an update work perfectly, first > time./ During this time, I've installed and updated more than two > dozen systems at home and at my office. > > > I've learned to unplug my secondary drive and perform a new [totally > wiped] install to my primary drive, from the CD. After it is installed > and tested, I install all my favorite programs and only then, do I > plug the secondary drive and redirect my application software to all > the old content and WiP. > > > That's just been my experience and of course, your milage may vary. > > > Good luck! > > > Stan > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt > > -- Some people are like Slinky's. Not good for much but fun to watch when you push them down the stairs. 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Sent with Thunderbird on my Kubuntu Linux Desktop From phantom21 at mindspring.com Sat May 1 23:24:37 2010 From: phantom21 at mindspring.com (phantom21 at mindspring.com) Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 19:24:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: 10.4 upgrade vs install Message-ID: <30149533.1272756278068.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I don't use an external drive for this, I always create a separate partition for /home and don't format it during the update/fresh installation. It always picks up the settings for my various apps and I've never lost data. I do, however, back up the /home directory to an external HD, just for safety sake. I've never needed it. Mark -----Original Message----- >From: cherryfinals >Sent: May 1, 2010 6:51 PM >To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Subject: 10.4 upgrade vs install > >I've been noticing a lot of complaints both on this list and several others on upgrading from 9.10 to 10.4. >Over the last couple of years, I have learned a dear lesson. The lesson is that you should have all your personal data and various configs on a secondary drive. When a new system is released, never, ever use the update function. Over the last five years I've been using Kubuntu, I have yet to see an update work perfectly, first time. During this time, I've installed and updated more than two dozen systems at home and at my office.  > >I've learned to unplug my secondary drive and perform a new [totally wiped] install to my primary drive, from the CD. After it is installed and tested, I install all my favorite programs and only then, do I plug the secondary drive and redirect my application software to all the old content and WiP.  >That's just been my experience and of course, your milage may vary. >Good luck! >Stan > > > >"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > >-Ed Howdershelt > From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Sat May 1 23:55:30 2010 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 01:55:30 +0200 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4BDCBF72.40100@gmx.net> On 05/02/2010 01:21 AM, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web > browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on > mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went > something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not > exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. It's network.protocol-handler.app.http. From g.lip at gmx.com Sun May 2 03:53:20 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 11:53:20 +0800 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: <201005011637.51835.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> <201005011637.51835.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: On 05/02/2010 04:37 AM, Clay Weber wrote: > Add it to /etc/default grub, you can just put the line: > GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true > above the GRUB_DEFAULT line, save, and run update-grub > > clay > And if this doesn't work, you can file a bug report. Regards - Goh Lip From tomh0665 at gmail.com Sun May 2 04:40:47 2010 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 00:40:47 -0400 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: References: <20100430160233.GB12970@3LockBox> <4BDB2849.7080003@gmx.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Mario Andes wrote: > > grub.cfg in /boot/grub is exactly as you have written... Sorry. Been busy so have not been able to reply. So your grub.cfg is being created correctly and there is something else at play. I assume that you also have the following in the 00_... section: set default="${saved_entry}" if [ ${prev_saved_entry} ]; then set saved_entry=${prev_saved_entry} save_env saved_entry set prev_saved_entry= save_env prev_saved_entry set boot_once=true fi function savedefault { if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then saved_entry=${chosen} save_env saved_entry fi } I am going to take a look at my grub scripts to see where else this could fail... From tomh0665 at gmail.com Sun May 2 04:45:52 2010 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 00:45:52 -0400 Subject: New 10.4 32 bit install, needs dns info In-Reply-To: <201005011851.33403.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <201005011851.33403.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > This is for the iface eth0 static > stanza in /etc/networking/interfaces > > The net is working locally by hosts file translations, but the manpage for > interfaces does not demo how a dns address is passed. > > And of course, /etc/resolv.conf has no data other than claims to have been > generated by network-manager, which I'd druther not fight with when a simple > /etc/init.d/networking start should just do it. ISTR on 6.06, I was able to > kill NM, and then hand edit resolv.conf, then make it immutable and that was > the end of that, but it was also 6.06 and I expect things are done > differently now. > > This should come up on boot using all static addressing. If you are not using NM, why don't you uninstall it and hand edit /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf (without any need to set immutable, etc)? From tomh0665 at gmail.com Sun May 2 05:27:23 2010 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 01:27:23 -0400 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: References: <201004301903.05248.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Mario Andes wrote: > > this constant isn't set! not in /etc/default/grub nor /boot/grub/grub.cfg! > > Where shall I add the definition of this constant? GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT is set in /etc/default/grub, exported by /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig and used by /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib. The only way that I have been able to make the last menu selection stick is with /usr/sbin/grub-set-default Usage: grub-set-default If you want to default to the 2nd menu entry: grub-set-default 1 (the count starts at 0) From kassube at gmx.net Sun May 2 06:07:31 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 08:07:31 +0200 Subject: 10.4 upgrade vs install In-Reply-To: <295676.35982.qm@web58004.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <295676.35982.qm@web58004.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201005020807.31728.kassube@gmx.net> cherryfinals wrote: > I've been noticing a lot of complaints both on this list and several > others on upgrading from 9.10 to 10.4. Over the last couple of > years, I have learned a dear lesson. The lesson is that you should > have all your personal data and various configs on a secondary > drive. When a new system is released, never, ever use the update > function. Over the last five years I've been using Kubuntu, I have > yet to see an update work perfectly, first time. During this time, > I've installed and updated more than two dozen systems at home and > at my office. Well, that may be your lesson and I can feel your pain. My experience is quite the opposite to yours. I have used the upgrade option since about 7.04 and I have used it on many (10 to 15) machines with various hardware and varying amounts of installed packages. There were only a few cases of problems and the problems were no big issues (for me anyway). I never had to do a fresh install on those machines where the upgrade didn't work well. Therefore I would always suggest to first backup the important data and then _try_ the upgrade. If it really fails, you still can do a fresh install, but usually that step isn't necessary. The advantage of an upgrade is that you don't have to make notes of the installed packages because they are also upgraded to the new version. Overall it saves a lot of time. Furthermore there seem to be a lot of grub problems due to the new grub since 9.10. However that seems to only affect those with fresh installs which is another reason to try the upgrade first. Nils From barnaby at drofle.com Sun May 2 07:40:36 2010 From: barnaby at drofle.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 08:40:36 +0100 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDCBF72.40100@gmx.net> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDCBF72.40100@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4BDD2C74.2010608@drofle.com> Anj Tuesday wrote: > On 05/02/2010 01:21 AM, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >> A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web >> browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on >> mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went >> something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not >> exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. > > It's network.protocol-handler.app.http. > And don't forget to add one for https. The letter s at the end is the only difference. Neil From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun May 2 08:06:36 2010 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 18:06:36 +1000 Subject: 10.4 upgrade vs install In-Reply-To: <201005020807.31728.kassube@gmx.net> References: <295676.35982.qm@web58004.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <201005020807.31728.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201005021806.36630.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sun, 2 May 2010 04:07:31 pm Nils Kassube wrote: > Well, that may be your lesson and I can feel your pain. My experience is > quite the opposite to yours. I have used the upgrade option since about > 7.04 and I have used it on many (10 to 15) machines with various > hardware and varying amounts of installed packages. I have a mythbuntu server that has been updated from 8.04 to 9.10 with very few issues. This I think is down to two things: - Never install anything that doesn't need to be there. My desktop is tweaked and experimented with to death. My server is untouched. - Wait a few weeks before upgrading :) -- Lindsay http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home From girardhenri at free.fr Sun May 2 08:08:54 2010 From: girardhenri at free.fr (girardhenri at free.fr) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 10:08:54 +0200 Subject: 10.4 upgrade vs install In-Reply-To: <201005020807.31728.kassube@gmx.net> References: <295676.35982.qm@web58004.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <201005020807.31728.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <2870547ED3804C94885FF589C28CAF09@pc> -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nils Kassube" Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: 10.4 upgrade vs install > cherryfinals wrote: >> I've been noticing a lot of complaints both on this list and several >> others on upgrading from 9.10 to 10.4. Over the last couple of >> years, I have learned a dear lesson. The lesson is that you should >> have all your personal data and various configs on a secondary >> drive. When a new system is released, never, ever use the update >> function. Over the last five years I've been using Kubuntu, I have >> yet to see an update work perfectly, first time. During this time, >> I've installed and updated more than two dozen systems at home and >> at my office. > > Well, that may be your lesson and I can feel your pain. My experience is > quite the opposite to yours. I have used the upgrade option since about > 7.04 and I have used it on many (10 to 15) machines with various > hardware and varying amounts of installed packages. There were only a > few cases of problems and the problems were no big issues (for me > anyway). I never had to do a fresh install on those machines where the > upgrade didn't work well. > > Therefore I would always suggest to first backup the important data and > then _try_ the upgrade. If it really fails, you still can do a fresh > install, but usually that step isn't necessary. The advantage of an > upgrade is that you don't have to make notes of the installed packages > because they are also upgraded to the new version. Overall it saves a > lot of time. > > Furthermore there seem to be a lot of grub problems due to the new grub > since 9.10. However that seems to only affect those with fresh installs > which is another reason to try the upgrade first. > > > Nils > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >Hi I update my pcs before the final out (because i don't need to keep any datas) and I wondered how lucid was so fine. I use more gnome because kde is not working as good... But I prefer kde because i like qt4 development. I think update-manager is a good tool. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun May 2 08:13:38 2010 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 04:13:38 -0400 Subject: New 10.4 32 bit install, needs dns info In-Reply-To: References: <201005011851.33403.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <201005020413.38543.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Sunday 02 May 2010, Tom H wrote: >On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> This is for the iface eth0 static >> stanza in /etc/networking/interfaces >> >> The net is working locally by hosts file translations, but the manpage >> for interfaces does not demo how a dns address is passed. >> >> And of course, /etc/resolv.conf has no data other than claims to have >> been generated by network-manager, which I'd druther not fight with when >> a simple /etc/init.d/networking start should just do it. ISTR on 6.06, I >> was able to kill NM, and then hand edit resolv.conf, then make it >> immutable and that was the end of that, but it was also 6.06 and I expect >> things are done differently now. >> >> This should come up on boot using all static addressing. > >If you are not using NM, why don't you uninstall it and hand edit >/etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf (without any need to set >immutable, etc)? > Ok, I'll do that later today. Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Any program will expand to fill available memory. -- Murphy's Laws of Computer Programming n�11 From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun May 2 09:22:50 2010 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 12:22:50 +0300 Subject: 10.04 upgrade In-Reply-To: <4BDA687B.7090103@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4BDA687B.7090103@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <4BDD446A.8050900@prayingforisrael.net> On 04/30/2010 08:19 AM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > Any of you guys done the upgrade yet from 9.10 yet? > Any problems or a no-brainer? > > I think I shall wait a bit as this is my main production box. > > Nigel > OK. I did the upgrade and it went quite smooth. It took a while to download the updates probably due to server overload. The only issue I had was with Wicd and KDE's insistence of installing Knetworkmanager along side of Wicd. I had to uninstall Knetworkmanager: sudo aptitude remove network-manager-kde then reboot for everything to come right. Just before the initial reboot after the upgrade, I was asked if I wanted to remove redundant(?) packages - I said yes and all the old kernels were removed :-) A happy camper....:-) From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun May 2 09:26:14 2010 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 12:26:14 +0300 Subject: Plasma background image? Message-ID: <4BDD4536.7080102@prayingforisrael.net> How do I change the Plasma background image? At the moment it is a see-through gray image with some rounded-cornered squares. It is also on my kicker bar (which is more annoying/distracting). Is it possible to change it or even get rid of it - especially from the kicker bar? Nigel From kassube at gmx.net Sun May 2 09:42:42 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 11:42:42 +0200 Subject: 10.04 upgrade In-Reply-To: <4BDD446A.8050900@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4BDA687B.7090103@prayingforisrael.net> <4BDD446A.8050900@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <201005021142.43008.kassube@gmx.net> Nigel Ridley wrote: > OK. I did the upgrade and it went quite smooth. It took a while to > download the updates probably due to server overload. If you want to avoid the server overload on the first days after release on your next upgrade, you can download the alternate CD via bittorrent and then do the cdromupgrade [1]. Then the upgrade will only download from the Ubuntu servers the packages which are not on the CD already. Nils [1] From fatgerman at googlemail.com Sun May 2 09:56:07 2010 From: fatgerman at googlemail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 10:56:07 +0100 Subject: Plasma background image? In-Reply-To: <4BDD4536.7080102@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4BDD4536.7080102@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <201005021056.07515.fatgerman@googlemail.com> On Sunday 02 May 2010 10:26:14 Nigel Ridley wrote: > How do I change the Plasma background image? At the moment it is a > see-through gray image with some rounded-cornered squares. It is also on > my kicker bar (which is more annoying/distracting). Is it possible to > change it or even get rid of it - especially from the kicker bar? > > Nigel Yes it took me a while to find that. Right-click the desktop, choose 'Desktop Activity Settings' - you get a dialog allowing you change the wallpaper, amongst other things. Mark From claydoh at midmaine.com Sun May 2 11:59:20 2010 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 07:59:20 -0400 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: References: <201004301903.05248.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <4BDD6918.3070300@midmaine.com> Tom H wrote: > On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Mario Andes wrote: >> >> this constant isn't set! not in /etc/default/grub nor /boot/grub/grub.cfg! >> >> Where shall I add the definition of this constant? > > GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT is set in /etc/default/grub, exported by > /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig and used by /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib. > > The only way that I have been able to make the last menu selection > stick is with /usr/sbin/grub-set-default > > Usage: > grub-set-default > > If you want to default to the 2nd menu entry: > grub-set-default 1 > (the count starts at 0) > Which is why I suggested disabling the GRUB_DEFAULT= option and add in the GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true option clay From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sun May 2 12:02:20 2010 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 13:02:20 +0100 Subject: Miro problem on Lucid Lynx [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: <4BDB7A12.8020904@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4BDB7A12.8020904@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <4BDD69CC.7080108@tiscali.co.uk> On 01/05/10 01:47, Wulfy wrote: > I just upgraded to Lucid from Karmic and the only problems I had were > the upgrade tool crashed at 99% and Miro no longer has sound. > > I fixed the crash by a reboot into recovery mode and got dpkg to fix all > packages. > > I can't find any reason for Miro not to play sound. I ran it from a > konsole and it seems to have lost xinerenderer... but it plays videos ok > just without sound. I'm confused. Can anyone help? > > [I just noticed that my sig is not being attached... hmmm] > > Wulfmann > > I've been looking on launchpad for similar problems and found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/miro/+bug/350790 At the bottom, "BPS" said that Miro is muted on pulseaudio by default... and while searching for the volume control mentioned, I found that gstreamer0.10pulseaudio was not installed. I installed it without much hope that it would fix the problem but it did! :@) I hope that any others with this problem will find this and it will help. Blessings Wulfmann From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun May 2 12:32:09 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 07:32:09 -0500 Subject: Thank You - Re: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDD2C74.2010608@drofle.com> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDCBF72.40100@gmx.net> <4BDD2C74.2010608@drofle.com> Message-ID: <4BDD70C9.9020601@swbell.net> Thank you all. I knew it wasn't right but my poor old brain just wouldn't pull it out of the cobwebs. On 05/02/2010 02:40 AM, Neil Winchurst wrote: > Anj Tuesday wrote: > >> On 05/02/2010 01:21 AM, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >> >>> A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web >>> browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on >>> mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went >>> something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not >>> exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. >>> >> It's network.protocol-handler.app.http. >> >> > And don't forget to add one for https. The letter s at the end is the > only difference. > > Neil > > -- Some people are like Slinky's. Not good for much but fun to watch when you push them down the stairs. Sent with Thunderbird on my Kubuntu Linux Desktop From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun May 2 14:01:54 2010 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 17:01:54 +0300 Subject: Plasma background image? In-Reply-To: <201005021056.07515.fatgerman@googlemail.com> References: <4BDD4536.7080102@prayingforisrael.net> <201005021056.07515.fatgerman@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4BDD85D2.9030502@prayingforisrael.net> On 05/02/2010 12:56 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > On Sunday 02 May 2010 10:26:14 Nigel Ridley wrote: >> How do I change the Plasma background image? At the moment it is a >> see-through gray image with some rounded-cornered squares. It is also on >> my kicker bar (which is more annoying/distracting). Is it possible to >> change it or even get rid of it - especially from the kicker bar? >> >> Nigel > Yes it took me a while to find that. > > Right-click the desktop, choose 'Desktop Activity Settings' - you get a dialog > allowing you change the wallpaper, amongst other things. > > Mark > Sorry, I should have been more specific. I didn't mean about changing the wallpaper, rather the background image of the actual widgets that are on the desktop. The same [annoying] image is also used a a background for the kicker bar. Nigel From multilingus at gmx.de Sun May 2 14:04:27 2010 From: multilingus at gmx.de (Mario Andes) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 16:04:27 +0200 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: <4BDD6918.3070300@midmaine.com> References: <201004301903.05248.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4BDD6918.3070300@midmaine.com> Message-ID: Hi Clay, I commented out the GRUB_DEFAULT=option and inserted GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true Before I installed the alternate version of Lucid. The system works better even if it forgets the last programs I used. The default system problem hasn't changed with the new constant. It's really amazing that this good working mechanism of starting automatically the last system used was abandonned! It seems that this comfort existed only n for Karmic... Regards Mario On Sun, 02 May 2010 13:59:20 +0200, Clay Weber wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Mario Andes wrote: >>> >>> this constant isn't set! not in /etc/default/grub nor >>> /boot/grub/grub.cfg! >>> >>> Where shall I add the definition of this constant? >> >> GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT is set in /etc/default/grub, exported by >> /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig and used by /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib. >> >> The only way that I have been able to make the last menu selection >> stick is with /usr/sbin/grub-set-default >> >> Usage: >> grub-set-default >> >> If you want to default to the 2nd menu entry: >> grub-set-default 1 >> (the count starts at 0) >> > > Which is why I suggested disabling the GRUB_DEFAULT= option and add in > the GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true option > > clay > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From multilingus at gmx.de Sun May 2 14:05:59 2010 From: multilingus at gmx.de (Mario Andes) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 16:05:59 +0200 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: References: <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> <201005011637.51835.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: Where do I have to send a bug report? Regards Mario On Sun, 02 May 2010 05:53:20 +0200, Goh Lip wrote: > On 05/02/2010 04:37 AM, Clay Weber wrote: > >> Add it to /etc/default grub, you can just put the line: >> GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true >> above the GRUB_DEFAULT line, save, and run update-grub >> >> clay >> > > And if this doesn't work, you can file a bug report. > > > Regards - Goh Lip > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From g.lip at gmx.com Sun May 2 14:21:42 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 22:21:42 +0800 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: References: <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> <201005011637.51835.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: On 05/02/2010 10:05 PM, Mario Andes wrote: > Where do I have to send a bug report? Start here.. https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ Regards - Goh Lip From darkwingduck at kubuntu.org Sun May 2 14:53:52 2010 From: darkwingduck at kubuntu.org (David Wonderly) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 09:53:52 -0500 Subject: Plasma background image? In-Reply-To: <4BDD85D2.9030502@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4BDD4536.7080102@prayingforisrael.net> <201005021056.07515.fatgerman@googlemail.com> <4BDD85D2.9030502@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <201005020953.53042.darkwingduck@kubuntu.org> On Sunday, May 02, 2010 09:01:54 am Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 05/02/2010 12:56 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > > On Sunday 02 May 2010 10:26:14 Nigel Ridley wrote: > >> How do I change the Plasma background image? At the moment it is a > >> see-through gray image with some rounded-cornered squares. It is also on > >> my kicker bar (which is more annoying/distracting). Is it possible to > >> change it or even get rid of it - especially from the kicker bar? > >> > >> Nigel > > > > Yes it took me a while to find that. > > > > Right-click the desktop, choose 'Desktop Activity Settings' - you get a > > dialog allowing you change the wallpaper, amongst other things. > > > > Mark > > Sorry, I should have been more specific. I didn't mean about changing the > wallpaper, rather the background image of the actual widgets that are on > the desktop. The same [annoying] image is also used a a background for the > kicker bar. > > Nigel That would be the plasma theme that controls that. Go into system settings and click on Appearance. in the top tab click on Workspace and you can change the themes from there. Either installing a downloaded theme or, one from the theme installer. Hope this helps ya. DW From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sun May 2 15:02:06 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 01:02:06 +1000 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> On 02/05/10 09:21, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web > browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on > mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went > something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not > exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. > These parameters are already set in TB when you install it. What you need to do is to make TB, and FF, your default applications to use for the 'net. BC -- "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo Galilei From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun May 2 15:19:07 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 10:19:07 -0500 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4BDD97EB.7020107@swbell.net> On 05/02/2010 10:02 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 02/05/10 09:21, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > >> A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web >> browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on >> mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went >> something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not >> exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. >> >> > These parameters are already set in TB when you install it. > > What you need to do is to make TB, and FF, your default applications to > use for the 'net. > > BC > > > Somehow in the new upgrade to the latest and greatest the setting got lost. Firefox is the default but that didn't work as it should. Even adding the network.protocol...... thing didn't fix it. I added the "http" and https" with firefox as the application and restarted T-bird but no dice. -- Some people are like Slinky's. Not good for much but fun to watch when you push them down the stairs. Sent with Thunderbird on my Kubuntu Linux Desktop From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sun May 2 15:36:12 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 01:36:12 +1000 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDD97EB.7020107@swbell.net> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> <4BDD97EB.7020107@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4BDD9BEC.3030209@iinet.net.au> On 03/05/10 01:19, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > On 05/02/2010 10:02 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > >> On 02/05/10 09:21, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >> >> >>> A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web >>> browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on >>> mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went >>> something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not >>> exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. >>> >>> >>> >> These parameters are already set in TB when you install it. >> >> What you need to do is to make TB, and FF, your default applications to >> use for the 'net. >> >> BC >> >> >> >> > Somehow in the new upgrade to the latest and greatest the setting got > lost. Firefox is the default but that didn't work as it should. Even > adding the network.protocol...... thing didn't fix it. I added the > "http" and https" with firefox as the application and restarted T-bird > but no dice. > The original suggestions/fix last year was to insert these lines: network.protocol-handler.app.http network.protocol-handler.app.https as "boolean true" In the latest TB 3.0.4 this appears to have been altered to: network.protocol-handler.expose.http network.protocol-handler.expose.https At least this is what I have and it works for me. Ooops, just in case this makes a difference (because I cannot get to my Kubuntu installation right now), I quote this from my Ubuntu installation (which is my normal system, the Kubuntu one is only to see how horrible it is compared to Ubuntu :-) ). BC -- "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo Galilei From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun May 2 15:40:29 2010 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 18:40:29 +0300 Subject: Plasma background image? In-Reply-To: <201005020953.53042.darkwingduck@kubuntu.org> References: <4BDD4536.7080102@prayingforisrael.net> <201005021056.07515.fatgerman@googlemail.com> <4BDD85D2.9030502@prayingforisrael.net> <201005020953.53042.darkwingduck@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: <4BDD9CED.3090702@prayingforisrael.net> On 05/02/2010 05:53 PM, David Wonderly wrote: > On Sunday, May 02, 2010 09:01:54 am Nigel Ridley wrote: >> On 05/02/2010 12:56 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>> On Sunday 02 May 2010 10:26:14 Nigel Ridley wrote: >>>> How do I change the Plasma background image? At the moment it is a >>>> see-through gray image with some rounded-cornered squares. It is also on >>>> my kicker bar (which is more annoying/distracting). Is it possible to >>>> change it or even get rid of it - especially from the kicker bar? >>>> >>>> Nigel >>> >>> Yes it took me a while to find that. >>> >>> Right-click the desktop, choose 'Desktop Activity Settings' - you get a >>> dialog allowing you change the wallpaper, amongst other things. >>> >>> Mark >> >> Sorry, I should have been more specific. I didn't mean about changing the >> wallpaper, rather the background image of the actual widgets that are on >> the desktop. The same [annoying] image is also used a a background for the >> kicker bar. >> >> Nigel > > That would be the plasma theme that controls that. Go into system settings and > click on Appearance. in the top tab click on Workspace and you can change the > themes from there. Either installing a downloaded theme or, one from the theme > installer. > > Hope this helps ya. > > DW > That helped - thanks. I did try to add new themes -- installed a couple from the 'Get New Themes' but they don't show up anywhere - not even after a logout/login. Any ideas? Nigel From claydoh at midmaine.com Sun May 2 15:46:07 2010 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 11:46:07 -0400 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: References: <201004301903.05248.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4BDD6918.3070300@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <4BDD9E3F.5060502@midmaine.com> Mario Andes wrote: > Hi Clay, > > I commented out the GRUB_DEFAULT=option > and inserted GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true > Before I installed the alternate version of Lucid. > The system works better even if it forgets the last programs I used. > The default system problem hasn't changed with the new constant. > It's really amazing that this good working mechanism of starting > automatically the last system used was abandonned! > It seems that this comfort existed only n for Karmic... > Regards > Mario > > On Sun, 02 May 2010 13:59:20 +0200, Clay Weber > wrote: > >> Tom H wrote: >>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Mario Andes wrote: >>>> >>>> this constant isn't set! not in /etc/default/grub nor >>>> /boot/grub/grub.cfg! >>>> >>>> Where shall I add the definition of this constant? >>> >>> GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT is set in /etc/default/grub, exported by >>> /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig and used by /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib. >>> >>> The only way that I have been able to make the last menu selection >>> stick is with /usr/sbin/grub-set-default >>> >>> Usage: >>> grub-set-default >>> >>> If you want to default to the 2nd menu entry: >>> grub-set-default 1 >>> (the count starts at 0) >>> >> >> Which is why I suggested disabling the GRUB_DEFAULT= option and add in >> the GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true option >> >> clay >> > > No it is a bug you have, nothing was abandoned (on purpose that is). https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub is where you can submit a bug report for grub. I do not see any similar bug reports on this in there. I will set up a dual boot tonight and see if I can reproduce this on a Karmic to lucid upgraded machine and a cleanly installed one. clay From barnaby at drofle.com Sun May 2 15:57:00 2010 From: barnaby at drofle.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 16:57:00 +0100 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4BDDA0CC.4040906@drofle.com> Basil Chupin wrote: > On 02/05/10 09:21, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >> A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web >> browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on >> mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went >> something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not >> exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. >> > > These parameters are already set in TB when you install it. > > What you need to do is to make TB, and FF, your default applications to > use for the 'net. > > BC > > Not in my copy they weren't. And I already had made TB the default email application. I had to create these parameters from scratch. Neil From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun May 2 16:27:10 2010 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 19:27:10 +0300 Subject: 10.04 upgrade In-Reply-To: <201005021142.43008.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4BDA687B.7090103@prayingforisrael.net> <4BDD446A.8050900@prayingforisrael.net> <201005021142.43008.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4BDDA7DE.4040700@prayingforisrael.net> On 05/02/2010 12:42 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Nigel Ridley wrote: >> OK. I did the upgrade and it went quite smooth. It took a while to >> download the updates probably due to server overload. > > If you want to avoid the server overload on the first days after release > on your next upgrade, you can download the alternate CD via bittorrent > and then do the cdromupgrade [1]. Then the upgrade will only download > from the Ubuntu servers the packages which are not on the CD already. > > > Nils > > [1] > Strange you mentioning that as I was gong to ask how to do it. I have another 3 boxes to upgrade and have already got the alternate CD burned and waiting.... Nigel From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Sun May 2 16:50:50 2010 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 18:50:50 +0200 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDD9BEC.3030209@iinet.net.au> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> <4BDD97EB.7020107@swbell.net> <4BDD9BEC.3030209@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4BDDAD6A.1060006@gmx.net> On 05/02/2010 05:36 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > In the latest TB 3.0.4 this appears to have been altered to: > > network.protocol-handler.expose.http > network.protocol-handler.expose.https > > At least this is what I have and it works for me. I had those, and http links were still "dead". The Attachment preferences only showed Content Type https - no http. But this post helped: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9207574&postcount=3 From kassube at gmx.net Sun May 2 17:31:29 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 19:31:29 +0200 Subject: 10.04 upgrade In-Reply-To: <4BDDA7DE.4040700@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4BDA687B.7090103@prayingforisrael.net> <201005021142.43008.kassube@gmx.net> <4BDDA7DE.4040700@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <201005021931.30047.kassube@gmx.net> Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 05/02/2010 12:42 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > > If you want to avoid the server overload on the first days after > > release on your next upgrade, you can download the alternate CD > > via bittorrent and then do the cdromupgrade [1]. Then the upgrade > > will only download from the Ubuntu servers the packages which are > > not on the CD already. > Strange you mentioning that as I was gong to ask how to do it. I have > another 3 boxes to upgrade and have already got the alternate CD > burned and waiting.... OK, if you can still use an extra hint, you don't even need to burn a CD if you are familiar with the command line. You can mount the alternate iso file as a loop device like this: sudo mount -oloop kubuntu-10.04-alternate-amd64.iso /mnt and then the command to start the upgrade would be this: kdesudo "/mnt/cdromupgrade" Sorry, I didn't think of that when I wrote the previous mail. Nils From tomh0665 at gmail.com Sun May 2 18:02:30 2010 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 14:02:30 -0400 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: <4BDD6918.3070300@midmaine.com> References: <201004301903.05248.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4BDD6918.3070300@midmaine.com> Message-ID: On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Clay Weber wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Mario Andes  wrote: >>> >>> this constant isn't set! not in /etc/default/grub nor /boot/grub/grub.cfg! >>> >>> Where shall I add the definition of this constant? >> >> GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT is set in /etc/default/grub, exported by >> /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig and used by /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib. >> >> The only way that I have been able to make the last menu selection >> stick is with /usr/sbin/grub-set-default >> >> Usage: >> grub-set-default >> >> If you want to default to the 2nd menu entry: >> grub-set-default 1 >> (the count starts at 0) > > Which is why I suggested disabling the GRUB_DEFAULT= option and add in > the GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true option Setting GRUB_DEFAULT= makes it default to 0 because of the following if [ "x${GRUB_DEFAULT}" = "x" ] ; then GRUB_DEFAULT=0 ; fi in /etc/grub.d/00_header From tomh0665 at gmail.com Sun May 2 18:07:19 2010 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 14:07:19 -0400 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: References: <201004301903.05248.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4BDD6918.3070300@midmaine.com> Message-ID: On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Mario Andes wrote: > > I commented out the GRUB_DEFAULT=option > and inserted GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true > Before I installed the alternate version of Lucid. > The system works better even if it forgets the last programs I used. > The default system problem hasn't changed with the new constant. > It's really amazing that this good working mechanism of starting > automatically the last system used was abandonned! It has not been abandoned. It is just a bug. File a report and in the meantime use grub-set-default x as I suggested earlier. You can even do the following while this bug is sorted out $ sudo vi /etc/grub.d/01_savedefault #! /bin/sh /usr/sbin/grub-set-default x # x is the default entry $ sudo chmod 755 /etc/grub.d/01_savedefault $ sudo update-grub From tomh0665 at gmail.com Sun May 2 18:08:36 2010 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 14:08:36 -0400 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: References: <201004301903.05248.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4BDD6918.3070300@midmaine.com> Message-ID: On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Mario Andes wrote: >> >> I commented out the GRUB_DEFAULT=option >> and inserted GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true >> Before I installed the alternate version of Lucid. >> The system works better even if it forgets the last programs I used. >> The default system problem hasn't changed with the new constant. >> It's really amazing that this good working mechanism of starting >> automatically the last system used was abandonned! > > It has not been abandoned. It is just a bug. File a report and in the > meantime use > grub-set-default x > as I suggested earlier. > > You can even do the following while this bug is sorted out > $ sudo vi /etc/grub.d/01_savedefault > #! /bin/sh > /usr/sbin/grub-set-default x  # x is the default entry > $ sudo chmod 755 /etc/grub.d/01_savedefault > $ sudo update-grub I forgot that /etc/default/grub should have the following set GRUB_DEFAULT=saved GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true From tomh0665 at gmail.com Sun May 2 18:18:24 2010 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 14:18:24 -0400 Subject: New 10.4 32 bit install, needs dns info In-Reply-To: <201005020413.38543.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <201005011851.33403.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <201005020413.38543.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 02 May 2010, Tom H wrote: >>On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Gene Heskett > wrote: >>> This is for the iface eth0 static >>> stanza in /etc/networking/interfaces >>> >>> The net is working locally by hosts file translations, but the manpage >>> for interfaces does not demo how a dns address is passed. >>> >>> And of course, /etc/resolv.conf has no data other than claims to have >>> been generated by network-manager, which I'd druther not fight with when >>> a simple /etc/init.d/networking start should just do it. ISTR on 6.06, I >>> was able to kill NM, and then hand edit resolv.conf, then make it >>> immutable and that was the end of that, but it was also 6.06 and I expect >>> things are done differently now. >>> >>> This should come up on boot using all static addressing. >> >>If you are not using NM, why don't you uninstall it and hand edit >>/etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf (without any need to set >>immutable, etc)? >> > Ok, I'll do that later today.  Thanks. You're welcome. There are two other options. 1. Only configure lo in /etc/network/interfaces and configure your static address and other settings in NM's GUI. 2. Configure the static address in /etc/network/interfaces but change the "managed" setting in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf so you still have NM on your box shozld you need it. From john_re at fastmail.us Sun May 2 02:51:24 2010 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 19:51:24 -0700 Subject: networking & wifi disabled/fails after close laptop & system hang. KU 10.4 [jor] Message-ID: <1272768684.15167.1372934611@webmail.messagingengine.com> 2 Problems: 1) Close laptop (Power management system?) locks up, causing disabled networking on reboot. 2) Unable to reenable networking. == Equipment & sw: Compaq Evo N610c laptop from maybe 2003-7. 1GB, pcmcia 3com wifi using atmel driver. Fresh KUbuntu 10.4 install. {This had been, & continues to, run KU 9.04 fine, from another disk partition} == Problem occurance: Worked fine for several hours. Then, while doing an ISO download I unplugged it & closed the cover. 5 minutes later I open the cover, & the laptop is nonresponsive, though power LED is on, & screen is backlighted, though black. Ctrl-alt-F1, c-a-delete, c-a-backspace does nothing. touchpad fails to cause useful display. (Point 1: Seems like a power management system, suspend, whatever is from the standard settings, has a bug. The laptop shouldn't hang when the cover is closed.) Power off, then power on & boot up. Now networking is disabled, & I can't find a way to enable it. I mouse over icon of ethernet plug & socket: ¨Unmanaged¨ click on that icon: ¨Network Management disabled¨ Going to (IIRC) System settings > networking, the wifi settings are still there, in the "wifi" section, but there is no place to turn on or enable network management. I insert the wifi card, and it doesn't show up under ifconfig, though it does with iwconfig. Strange. == Thoughts? Suggestions? Thanks to you, & the great GNU(Linux) community for the great KU10.4 sw & support. :) =============================== ===== Here is some data for you: {eth0 is the wifi card, which was inserted during the 10.4 install. eth1 is the built in wired ethernet.} {After insert the wifi card, it sees it (eth0) but fails to start the networking properly} :~$ tail -f /var/log/syslog May 1 16:59:35 a polkitd[1394]: started daemon version 0.96 using authority implementation `local' version `0.96' May 1 17:00:32 a kernel: [ 169.092178] pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0 May 1 17:00:32 a kernel: [ 169.092197] pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean. May 1 17:00:32 a kernel: [ 169.099640] pcmcia 0.0: pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0 May 1 17:00:33 a kernel: [ 169.714371] eth0: Atmel at76c50x. Version 0.98. MAC 00:04:75:c4:57:e1 May 1 17:00:33 a NetworkManager: SCPlugin-Ifupdown: devices added (path: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0/0000:02:06.0/0.0/net/eth0, iface: eth0) May 1 17:00:33 a NetworkManager: SCPlugin-Ifupdown: device added (path: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0/0000:02:06.0/0.0/net/eth0, iface: eth0): no ifupdown configuration found. May 1 17:00:33 a NetworkManager: (eth0): driver does not support SSID scans (scan_capa 0x00). May 1 17:00:33 a NetworkManager: (eth0): new 802.11 WiFi device (driver: 'atmel_cs') May 1 17:00:33 a NetworkManager: (eth0): exported as /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/1 Note these apparent problematic results: "iface: eth0): no ifupdown configuration found. May 1 17:00:33 a NetworkManager: (eth0): driver does not support SSID scans (scan_capa 0x00)." =============== {Before wifi card inserted:} ifconfig lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:72 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:72 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:4320 (4.3 KB) TX bytes:4320 (4.3 KB) root@:~# iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. eth1 no wireless extensions. {After wifi card inserted: ifconfig doesn't see it, iwconfig does: eth0} {Fails to see eth0} root@:~# ifconfig lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:80 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:80 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:4800 (4.8 KB) TX bytes:4800 (4.8 KB) root@:~# iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. eth1 no wireless extensions. eth0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"" Mode:Managed Channel:4 Access Point: FF:00:00:00:00:00 Bit Rate:11 Mb/s Retry short limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 {&, though before it did scan, now it says it cant} root@:~# iwlist eth0 scan eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Resource temporarily unavailable From wayward4now at gmail.com Sun May 2 18:28:12 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 14:28:12 -0400 Subject: Back to Karmic how to switch audio hardware?? Message-ID: <1272824892.14875.6.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Well, I jut upgraded to karmic, after using it back in the beta stages where it obliterated .asoundconf-gtk, which was a swell app to switch audio devices. I needed some updates, so I upgraded back. Same ole. Is there an easy way to switch audio devices when I want one enabled without editing the system pref thingie. Some special key function?? Thanks! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From g.lip at gmx.com Sun May 2 18:30:21 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 02:30:21 +0800 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub References: <201004301903.05248.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4BDD6918.3070300@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <20100503023021.8977371d.g.lip@gmx.com> On Sun, 2 May 2010 14:07:19 -0400 Tom H wrote: > You can even do the following while this bug is sorted out > $ sudo vi /etc/grub.d/01_savedefault > #! /bin/sh > /usr/sbin/grub-set-default x # x is the default entry > $ sudo chmod 755 /etc/grub.d/01_savedefault > $ sudo update-grub > You never fail to amaze me with this! I expected this to happen and that is why I leave it to you for Mario. Good one, Tom. But what took you so long? :) Regards - Goh Lip -- From multilingus at gmx.de Sun May 2 19:00:20 2010 From: multilingus at gmx.de (Mario Andes) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 21:00:20 +0200 Subject: Lucid Lynx and grub In-Reply-To: <4BDD9E3F.5060502@midmaine.com> References: <201004301903.05248.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201005011255.28336.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4BDD6918.3070300@midmaine.com> <4BDD9E3F.5060502@midmaine.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 02 May 2010 17:46:07 +0200, Clay Weber wrote: > Mario Andes wrote: >> Hi Clay, >> >> I commented out the GRUB_DEFAULT=option >> and inserted GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true >> Before I installed the alternate version of Lucid. >> The system works better even if it forgets the last programs I used. >> The default system problem hasn't changed with the new constant. >> It's really amazing that this good working mechanism of starting >> automatically the last system used was abandonned! >> It seems that this comfort existed only n for Karmic... >> Regards >> Mario >> >> On Sun, 02 May 2010 13:59:20 +0200, Clay Weber >> wrote: >> >>> Tom H wrote: >>>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Mario Andes >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> this constant isn't set! not in /etc/default/grub nor >>>>> /boot/grub/grub.cfg! >>>>> >>>>> Where shall I add the definition of this constant? >>>> >>>> GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT is set in /etc/default/grub, exported by >>>> /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig and used by /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib. >>>> >>>> The only way that I have been able to make the last menu selection >>>> stick is with /usr/sbin/grub-set-default >>>> >>>> Usage: >>>> grub-set-default >>>> >>>> If you want to default to the 2nd menu entry: >>>> grub-set-default 1 >>>> (the count starts at 0) >>>> >>> >>> Which is why I suggested disabling the GRUB_DEFAULT= option and add in >>> the GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true option >>> >>> clay >>> >> >> > > No it is a bug you have, nothing was abandoned (on purpose that is). > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub is where you can submit a > bug report for grub. I do not see any similar bug reports on this in > there. I will set up a dual boot tonight and see if I can reproduce this > on a Karmic to lucid upgraded machine and a cleanly installed one. > > clay > Hi Clay, I got it. There miust be both constants at the same time: GRUB_DEFAULT=saved and GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true Now everything works fine again. Thank you all for your help Regards Mario -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun May 2 21:05:46 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 16:05:46 -0500 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDDA0CC.4040906@drofle.com> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> <4BDDA0CC.4040906@drofle.com> Message-ID: <4BDDE92A.9070907@swbell.net> On 05/02/2010 10:57 AM, Neil Winchurst wrote: > Basil Chupin wrote: > >> On 02/05/10 09:21, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >> >>> A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web >>> browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on >>> mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went >>> something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not >>> exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. >>> >>> >> These parameters are already set in TB when you install it. >> >> > >> What you need to do is to make TB, and FF, your default applications to >> use for the 'net. >> >> BC >> >> >> > Not in my copy they weren't. And I already had made TB the default email > application. I had to create these parameters from scratch. > > Neil > > > Well, so far nothing has got it working since the T-Bird update that came with 10.4. How did you configure it to work? -- Some people are like Slinky's. Not good for much but fun to watch when you push them down the stairs. Sent with Thunderbird on my Kubuntu Linux Desktop From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Sun May 2 21:11:32 2010 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 23:11:32 +0200 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDDE92A.9070907@swbell.net> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> <4BDDA0CC.4040906@drofle.com> <4BDDE92A.9070907@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4BDDEA84.5050506@gmx.net> On 05/02/2010 11:05 PM, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > On 05/02/2010 10:57 AM, Neil Winchurst wrote: >> Basil Chupin wrote: >> >>> On 02/05/10 09:21, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >>> >>>> A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web >>>> browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on >>>> mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went >>>> something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not >>>> exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. >>>> >>>> >>> These parameters are already set in TB when you install it. >>> >>> >> >>> What you need to do is to make TB, and FF, your default applications to >>> use for the 'net. >>> >>> BC >>> >>> >>> >> Not in my copy they weren't. And I already had made TB the default email >> application. I had to create these parameters from scratch. >> >> Neil >> >> >> > > Well, so far nothing has got it working since the T-Bird update that > came with 10.4. How did you configure it to work? What "Content Types" do you see listed under "Attachments" in the Thunderbird preferences? From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun May 2 21:54:28 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 16:54:28 -0500 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDDEA84.5050506@gmx.net> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> <4BDDA0CC.4040906@drofle.com> <4BDDE92A.9070907@swbell.net> <4BDDEA84.5050506@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4BDDF494.4010900@swbell.net> On 05/02/2010 04:11 PM, Anj Tuesday wrote: > On 05/02/2010 11:05 PM, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > >> On 05/02/2010 10:57 AM, Neil Winchurst wrote: >> >>> Basil Chupin wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 02/05/10 09:21, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web >>>>> browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on >>>>> mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went >>>>> something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not >>>>> exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> These parameters are already set in TB when you install it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> What you need to do is to make TB, and FF, your default applications to >>>> use for the 'net. >>>> >>>> BC >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Not in my copy they weren't. And I already had made TB the default email >>> application. I had to create these parameters from scratch. >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Well, so far nothing has got it working since the T-Bird update that >> came with 10.4. How did you configure it to work? >> > What "Content Types" do you see listed under "Attachments" in the > Thunderbird preferences? > > HTML Document JPEG file MPEG video Plain test document I reset the HTML to default browser. Didn't help. -- Some people are like Slinky's. Not good for much but fun to watch when you push them down the stairs. Sent with Thunderbird on my Kubuntu Linux Desktop From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Sun May 2 22:07:06 2010 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday) Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 00:07:06 +0200 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDDF494.4010900@swbell.net> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> <4BDDA0CC.4040906@drofle.com> <4BDDE92A.9070907@swbell.net> <4BDDEA84.5050506@gmx.net> <4BDDF494.4010900@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4BDDF78A.8020005@gmx.net> On 05/02/2010 11:54 PM, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > On 05/02/2010 04:11 PM, Anj Tuesday wrote: >> What "Content Types" do you see listed under "Attachments" in the >> Thunderbird preferences? >> >> > > HTML Document > JPEG file > MPEG video > Plain test document > > I reset the HTML to default browser. Didn't help. Strangely, I had nothing there except: https And https links always worked (no network.protocol-handler... tweakery required), whereas clicking on http links didn't do anything until I edited mimeTypes.rdf to add http as per my other recent post. (Also, Thunderbird considers "flock" the default browser. But Flock- the-browser isn't installed at all - though there's flock-the-OS- utility. So I additionally had to retrain it to use Firefox.) From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Mon May 3 01:40:45 2010 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (William Hamra) Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 04:40:45 +0300 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDDF494.4010900@swbell.net> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> <4BDDA0CC.4040906@drofle.com> <4BDDE92A.9070907@swbell.net> <4BDDEA84.5050506@gmx.net> <4BDDF494.4010900@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4BDE299D.6090008@gmail.com> On 05/03/2010 12:54 AM, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > On 05/02/2010 04:11 PM, Anj Tuesday wrote: >> On 05/02/2010 11:05 PM, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >> >>> On 05/02/2010 10:57 AM, Neil Winchurst wrote: >>> >>>> Basil Chupin wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 02/05/10 09:21, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web >>>>>> browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on >>>>>> mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went >>>>>> something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not >>>>>> exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> These parameters are already set in TB when you install it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> What you need to do is to make TB, and FF, your default applications to >>>>> use for the 'net. >>>>> >>>>> BC >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Not in my copy they weren't. And I already had made TB the default email >>>> application. I had to create these parameters from scratch. >>>> >>>> Neil >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Well, so far nothing has got it working since the T-Bird update that >>> came with 10.4. How did you configure it to work? >>> >> What "Content Types" do you see listed under "Attachments" in the >> Thunderbird preferences? >> >> > > HTML Document > JPEG file > MPEG video > Plain test document > > I reset the HTML to default browser. Didn't help. > something changed in lucid... not sure what. i compile thunderbird from trunk every while, it was working fine on karmic, i fresh installed lucid, and recompiled thunderbird for it, from same source version as last time, and copied the thunderbird config directory to my home. so TB *should* remember all my old settings, yet, upon clicking a link it asked for how to use it. i pointed it to firefox, and it used it... like a charm, never asked again. but i still find it weird that it asked. -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: w_hamra1987.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 134 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From gene.heskett at verizon.net Mon May 3 01:52:15 2010 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 21:52:15 -0400 Subject: New 10.4 32 bit install, needs dns info In-Reply-To: References: <201005011851.33403.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <201005020413.38543.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <201005022152.15518.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Sunday 02 May 2010, Tom H wrote: >On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Sunday 02 May 2010, Tom H wrote: >>>On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Gene Heskett >> >> wrote: >>>> This is for the iface eth0 static >>>> stanza in /etc/networking/interfaces >>>> >>>> The net is working locally by hosts file translations, but the manpage >>>> for interfaces does not demo how a dns address is passed. >>>> >>>> And of course, /etc/resolv.conf has no data other than claims to have >>>> been generated by network-manager, which I'd druther not fight with >>>> when a simple /etc/init.d/networking start should just do it. ISTR on >>>> 6.06, I was able to kill NM, and then hand edit resolv.conf, then make >>>> it immutable and that was the end of that, but it was also 6.06 and I >>>> expect things are done differently now. >>>> >>>> This should come up on boot using all static addressing. >>> >>>If you are not using NM, why don't you uninstall it and hand edit >>>/etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf (without any need to set >>>immutable, etc)? >> >> Ok, I'll do that later today. Thanks. > And that worked. I removed NM, started networking, then fixed resolv.conf & everything in that regard is now working.. >You're welcome. > >There are two other options. > >1. Only configure lo in /etc/network/interfaces and configure your >static address and other settings in NM's GUI. I did try that, but couldn't get it to save my changes. >2. Configure the static address in /etc/network/interfaces but change >the "managed" setting in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf >so you still have NM on your box shozld you need it. Its gone, just as well. I've been doing it this way since about 1998. NM has always seemed to me to be a half baked solution in search of a problem, and if it cannot find a problem, then by golly it will make up one of its own. Its been quite good at that on my watch. Thank you Tom. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Keep your eyes wide open before marriage, half shut afterwards. -- Benjamin Franklin From bilwalsh at swbell.net Mon May 3 02:42:21 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 21:42:21 -0500 Subject: Solved - Re: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDE299D.6090008@gmail.com> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> <4BDDA0CC.4040906@drofle.com> <4BDDE92A.9070907@swbell.net> <4BDDEA84.5050506@gmx.net> <4BDDF494.4010900@swbell.net> <4BDE299D.6090008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BDE380D.8080704@swbell.net> On 05/02/2010 08:40 PM, William Hamra wrote: > On 05/03/2010 12:54 AM, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > >> On 05/02/2010 04:11 PM, Anj Tuesday wrote: >> >>> On 05/02/2010 11:05 PM, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 05/02/2010 10:57 AM, Neil Winchurst wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Basil Chupin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 02/05/10 09:21, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web >>>>>>> browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on >>>>>>> mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went >>>>>>> something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not >>>>>>> exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> These parameters are already set in TB when you install it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> What you need to do is to make TB, and FF, your default applications to >>>>>> use for the 'net. >>>>>> >>>>>> BC >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Not in my copy they weren't. And I already had made TB the default email >>>>> application. I had to create these parameters from scratch. >>>>> >>>>> Neil >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Well, so far nothing has got it working since the T-Bird update that >>>> came with 10.4. How did you configure it to work? >>>> >>>> >>> What "Content Types" do you see listed under "Attachments" in the >>> Thunderbird preferences? >>> >>> >>> >> HTML Document >> JPEG file >> MPEG video >> Plain test document >> >> I reset the HTML to default browser. Didn't help. >> >> > something changed in lucid... not sure what. i compile thunderbird from > trunk every while, it was working fine on karmic, i fresh installed > lucid, and recompiled thunderbird for it, from same source version as > last time, and copied the thunderbird config directory to my home. so TB > *should* remember all my old settings, yet, upon clicking a link it > asked for how to use it. i pointed it to firefox, and it used it... like > a charm, never asked again. but i still find it weird that it asked. > > I'm no good with the file system but I did finally figure out where Firefox was hiding. It seems to be fixed now. -- Some people are like Slinky's. Not good for much but fun to watch when you push them down the stairs. Sent with Thunderbird on my Kubuntu Linux Desktop From gene.heskett at verizon.net Mon May 3 02:47:24 2010 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 22:47:24 -0400 Subject: 10.4, poor font rendering and other asorted screen damage Message-ID: <201005022247.24261.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Greetings; Installed 10.4 yesterday & it seems to work ok on a box with less that stellar speed potential, but with one caveat: The font rendering in some programs sucks, or screen damages are not being redrawn, take your pick, it seems to depend on the program. Font rendering is pretty bad in firefox, and I believe much the same problem exists in the card games as there is all sorts of trash left behind when you move a card. A bash shell OTOH, renders perfectly and can be scrolled either direction without showing any screen damages there. But gedit can become almost unreadable. Is this a known problem? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) - DDD no longer requires the librx library. Consequently, librx errors can no more cause DDD to crash. -- DDD From blchupin at iinet.net.au Mon May 3 02:52:29 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 12:52:29 +1000 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDDA0CC.4040906@drofle.com> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> <4BDDA0CC.4040906@drofle.com> Message-ID: <4BDE3A6D.1090707@iinet.net.au> On 03/05/10 01:57, Neil Winchurst wrote: > Basil Chupin wrote: > >> On 02/05/10 09:21, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >> >>> A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web >>> browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on >>> mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went >>> something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not >>> exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. >>> >>> >> These parameters are already set in TB when you install it. >> >> > >> What you need to do is to make TB, and FF, your default applications to >> use for the 'net. >> >> BC >> >> >> > Not in my copy they weren't. And I already had made TB the default email > application. I had to create these parameters from scratch. > > Neil > Brand new installation, untouched by human hands, of Kubuntu 10.04 with Thunderbird 3.0.4 freshly installed from the Ubuntu-Canonical repository: the entries network.protocol-handler.expose.http network.protocol-handler.expose.https *are *both shown in Edit Configuration. No ifs or buts - they are there. In System Settings>Default Applications the Mail Client is set to Thunderbird and the Browser is set to Firefox both with the correct command line statements to start them. And just to get rid of any variables: I have a 32-bit system, and both Kubuntu and Ubuntu 10.04 are FRESH installs, NOT upgrades. BC -- "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo Galilei From gkourtev at gmail.com Mon May 3 08:57:48 2010 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 11:57:48 +0300 Subject: Virtualbox after 10.04 upgrade In-Reply-To: <4BDC456A.5010405@gmail.com> References: <201004301433.15422.gkourtev@gmail.com> <4BDC456A.5010405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201005031157.49339.gkourtev@gmail.com> On Saturday 01 May 2010 18:14:50 D. R. Evans wrote: > Georgi Kourtev said the following at 04/30/2010 05:33 AM : > > Hi, > > > > After the upgrade my virtaulbox mashine stopped working. While truing to > > run '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' I got message that the vboxdrv module > > cannot be unloaded. > > > > I tried to remove virtualbox-3.1 as I assumed this might be a kernel > > problem and aptitude advised me to remove also these packages. > > Is there any more news on this problem? I rely on virtualbox and I'm not > going to move to lucid if there's any chance that virtualbox isn't going to > work. > > Doc Well -- different things on two machines. N1: As i couldn't get to setup the vboxdrv, I had to remove the VB through the Kpackage, including a bunch of obsolete packages. Rebooted and installed it again (the karmic 3.1 version is there). Then -- all works fine. N2. Apparently this machine has kept the old kernels, which I had to remove with apt-get autoremove. Reboot. Then run vboxdrv setup and the VB resumed normal operation. gk From fatgerman at googlemail.com Mon May 3 10:39:00 2010 From: fatgerman at googlemail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 11:39:00 +0100 Subject: 10.4, poor font rendering and other asorted screen damage In-Reply-To: <201005022247.24261.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <201005022247.24261.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <201005031139.00604.fatgerman@googlemail.com> >On Monday 03 May 2010 03:47:24 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > Installed 10.4 yesterday & it seems to work ok on a box with less that > stellar speed potential, but with one caveat: > > The font rendering in some programs sucks, or screen damages are not being > redrawn, take your pick, it seems to depend on the program. > > Font rendering is pretty bad in firefox, and I believe much the same problem > exists in the card games as there is all sorts of trash left behind when you > move a card. > > A bash shell OTOH, renders perfectly and can be scrolled either direction > without showing any screen damages there. But gedit can become almost > unreadable. > > Is this a known problem? > > Thanks. I had something similar after a fresh install. It was all looking OK until I installed the nvidia driver. What I did was to install the msttcorefonts package and choose a TrueType font as my default font (I use Verdana). I also enabled Anti-Aliasing, then rebooted. Somehow this cleared the problem. Mark > > From blchupin at iinet.net.au Mon May 3 11:36:07 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 21:36:07 +1000 Subject: 10.4, poor font rendering and other asorted screen damage In-Reply-To: <201005031139.00604.fatgerman@googlemail.com> References: <201005022247.24261.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <201005031139.00604.fatgerman@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4BDEB527.3040009@iinet.net.au> On 03/05/10 20:39, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> On Monday 03 May 2010 03:47:24 Gene Heskett wrote: >> Greetings; >> >> Installed 10.4 yesterday& it seems to work ok on a box with less that >> stellar speed potential, but with one caveat: >> >> The font rendering in some programs sucks, or screen damages are not being >> redrawn, take your pick, it seems to depend on the program. >> >> Font rendering is pretty bad in firefox, and I believe much the same problem >> exists in the card games as there is all sorts of trash left behind when you >> move a card. >> >> A bash shell OTOH, renders perfectly and can be scrolled either direction >> without showing any screen damages there. But gedit can become almost >> unreadable. >> >> Is this a known problem? >> >> Thanks. >> > I had something similar after a fresh install. It was all looking OK until I installed the nvidia driver. What I did was to install the msttcorefonts package and choose a TrueType font as my default font (I use Verdana). I also enabled Anti-Aliasing, then rebooted. Somehow this cleared the problem. > > Mark > Not all fonts are created equal :-) . There are fonts which look alright in print and created just for this purpose - as for letters and, say, newspapers, etc; and then there are those created specifically for monitors. I think Verdana is one of those fonts developed for monitors, and so is DeJaVu (I think :-) ). Have a look in the Wikipedia about fonts. BC -- "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo Galilei From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon May 3 13:18:04 2010 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 07:18:04 -0600 Subject: Virtualbox after 10.04 upgrade In-Reply-To: <201005031157.49339.gkourtev@gmail.com> References: <201004301433.15422.gkourtev@gmail.com> <4BDC456A.5010405@gmail.com> <201005031157.49339.gkourtev@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BDECD0C.6090709@gmail.com> Georgi Kourtev said the following at 05/03/2010 02:57 AM : > On Saturday 01 May 2010 18:14:50 D. R. Evans wrote: >> Georgi Kourtev said the following at 04/30/2010 05:33 AM : >>> Hi, >>> >>> After the upgrade my virtaulbox mashine stopped working. While truing to >>> run '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' I got message that the vboxdrv module >>> cannot be unloaded. [elided] > Well -- different things on two machines. > > N1: As i couldn't get to setup the vboxdrv, I had to remove the VB through the > Kpackage, including a bunch of obsolete packages. Rebooted and installed it > again (the karmic 3.1 version is there). Then -- all works fine. > > N2. Apparently this machine has kept the old kernels, which I had to remove > with apt-get autoremove. Reboot. Then run vboxdrv setup and the VB resumed > normal operation. > gk > OK; thank you. I'm glad you got both of them working. I'm going to wait a month before switching to lucid in the hope that some of these pesky issues will be fixed in the meantime. But now at least I know what to try if they persist. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sinclair) Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 16:03:06 +0200 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDDA0CC.4040906@drofle.com> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> <4BDDA0CC.4040906@drofle.com> Message-ID: <4BDED79A.9060809@gmail.com> Neil Winchurst wrote: > Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 02/05/10 09:21, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >>> A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web >>> browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on >>> mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went >>> something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not >>> exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. >>> >> These parameters are already set in TB when you install it. >> > >> What you need to do is to make TB, and FF, your default applications to >> use for the 'net. >> >> BC >> >> > Not in my copy they weren't. And I already had made TB the default email > application. I had to create these parameters from scratch. > Unless it has changed these parameters are NOT there by default. Possibly in TBird 3 but not in the 2.0 something I use. And setting TBird as default in KDE does not have any impact on this, at least not in my experience. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Mon May 3 14:58:10 2010 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 10:58:10 -0400 Subject: 10.4, poor font rendering and other asorted screen damage In-Reply-To: <201005031139.00604.fatgerman@googlemail.com> References: <201005022247.24261.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <201005031139.00604.fatgerman@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <201005031058.10589.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Monday 03 May 2010, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>On Monday 03 May 2010 03:47:24 Gene Heskett wrote: >> Greetings; >> >> Installed 10.4 yesterday & it seems to work ok on a box with less that >> stellar speed potential, but with one caveat: >> >> The font rendering in some programs sucks, or screen damages are not >> being redrawn, take your pick, it seems to depend on the program. >> >> Font rendering is pretty bad in firefox, and I believe much the same >> problem exists in the card games as there is all sorts of trash left >> behind when you move a card. >> >> A bash shell OTOH, renders perfectly and can be scrolled either direction >> without showing any screen damages there. But gedit can become almost >> unreadable. >> >> Is this a known problem? >> >> Thanks. > >I had something similar after a fresh install. It was all looking OK until > I installed the nvidia driver. What I did was to install the msttcorefonts > package and choose a TrueType font as my default font (I use Verdana). I > also enabled Anti-Aliasing, then rebooted. Somehow this cleared the > problem. > >Mark > Thanks Mark, I'll give that a shot at least. But I don't see the connection between that and all the screen damages when playing Klondike solitaire. I forgot to mention that it is an rv280 based video card, an ATI 9200SE, AGP, using the radeon driver. I am using that driver on this machine also, but its an Rv610 2400-Pro card, and I do not see 99% of the screen damages I see on that machine. TBT, the driver shipping, and the kernel shipping, are known baddies on this machine. So I build and run kernel.org kernels here as there are changes in the drm in the 2.6.34-rcx kernels that fix some other very obnoxious problems, like screen blankers going crazy & you can't do much besides a hdwe button reset/reboot to fix it, for 10 minutes to 3 or 4 hours of peace each time. Until you forget, and something touches the right edge of the screen and its off to the races again. I am one of those who run the latest kernel.org kernels, and have been since 2.0 days. Something like the canary in the coal mine. So far, knock on wood, the 2.6.34-rc2 thru rc6 kernels have been dead stable here. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Any program will expand to fill available memory. -- Murphy's Laws of Computer Programming n�11 From blchupin at iinet.net.au Mon May 3 15:11:38 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 01:11:38 +1000 Subject: Thunderbird browser configuration In-Reply-To: <4BDED79A.9060809@gmail.com> References: <4BDCB766.1020105@swbell.net> <4BDD93EE.9070200@iinet.net.au> <4BDDA0CC.4040906@drofle.com> <4BDED79A.9060809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BDEE7AA.4000106@iinet.net.au> On 04/05/10 00:03, O. Sinclair wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: > >> Basil Chupin wrote: >> >>> On 02/05/10 09:21, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >>> >>>> A while back Thunderbird got stupid and you had to manually add your web >>>> browser in the configuration. Well that little bug is back, at least on >>>> mine. Does anyone remember the exact wording to add. As I recall it went >>>> something like "network.protocol-handler.http" but I know that's not >>>> exactly right. Somethings missing and I don't remember what it is. >>>> >>>> >>> These parameters are already set in TB when you install it. >>> >>> >> >>> What you need to do is to make TB, and FF, your default applications to >>> use for the 'net. >>> >>> BC >>> >>> >>> >> Not in my copy they weren't. And I already had made TB the default email >> application. I had to create these parameters from scratch. >> >> > Unless it has changed these parameters are NOT there by default. > Possibly in TBird 3 but not in the 2.0 something I use. And setting > TBird as default in KDE does not have any impact on this, at least not > in my experience. > The conversation is about the new installation of Lucid 10.04. Lucid 10.04 has Thunderbird 3.0.4. With you still running TB version 2.0 then naturally whatever has been said so far does not apply to you. BC -- "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo Galilei From gldvorak at gmail.com Mon May 3 19:46:59 2010 From: gldvorak at gmail.com (George Dvorak) Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 12:46:59 -0700 Subject: Grouping programs in the taskbar In-Reply-To: <20100503160217.08e8932c@strohsje.rhg.de> References: <20100503160217.08e8932c@strohsje.rhg.de> Message-ID: On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Jens Strohschnitter wrote: > Hi list, > > after upgrading my dist to the new TLS 10.04 I could'nt find the option > to group my programs in the taskbar. Isn't it possible in 10.04 to sort > the progs in order as I opened them ? > > Thx ... > > -- > kind regards, > > Jens Strohschnitter > > ----------------------------------------- > LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX > > Set the controls > for the heart of the sun > > LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX > ----------------------------------------- > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users I right click on a blank spot on the Task Manager (sometimes I have to close apps to get a clear area) and then select Task Manager Settings. On the first window I have the chance to select grouping. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Michael From tomh0665 at gmail.com Tue May 4 14:49:03 2010 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 10:49:03 -0400 Subject: New 10.4 32 bit install, needs dns info In-Reply-To: <201005022152.15518.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <201005011851.33403.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <201005020413.38543.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <201005022152.15518.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 02 May 2010, Tom H wrote: >>On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Gene Heskett > wrote: >>> On Sunday 02 May 2010, Tom H wrote: >>>>On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Gene Heskett >>> >>> wrote: >>>>> This is for the iface eth0 static >>>>> stanza in /etc/networking/interfaces >>>>> >>>>> The net is working locally by hosts file translations, but the manpage >>>>> for interfaces does not demo how a dns address is passed. >>>>> >>>>> And of course, /etc/resolv.conf has no data other than claims to have >>>>> been generated by network-manager, which I'd druther not fight with >>>>> when a simple /etc/init.d/networking start should just do it. ISTR on >>>>> 6.06, I was able to kill NM, and then hand edit resolv.conf, then make >>>>> it immutable and that was the end of that, but it was also 6.06 and I >>>>> expect things are done differently now. >>>>> >>>>> This should come up on boot using all static addressing. >>>> >>>>If you are not using NM, why don't you uninstall it and hand edit >>>>/etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf (without any need to set >>>>immutable, etc)? >>> >>> Ok, I'll do that later today.  Thanks. >> > And that worked.  I removed NM, started networking, then fixed resolv.conf & > everything in that regard is now working.. > >>You're welcome. >> >>There are two other options. >> >>1. Only configure lo in /etc/network/interfaces and configure your >>static address and other settings in NM's GUI. > > I did try that, but couldn't get it to save my changes. > >>2. Configure the static address in /etc/network/interfaces but change >>the "managed" setting in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf >>so you still have NM on your box shozld you need it. > > Its gone, just as well.  I've been doing it this way since about 1998. NM has > always seemed to me to be a half baked solution in search of a problem, and > if it cannot find a problem, then by golly it will make up one of its own. > Its been quite good at that on my watch. > > Thank you Tom. You're welcome. I have tried in the past managing my wired setup myself and my wireless setup through NM (rather than at the CLI out of sheer laziness) and it worked well, but anyone who follows at least one Linux list knows that NM-related problems are frequent... If NM (and its dos and don'ts) and its configuration (and the location and syntax of all its config files) were fully documented, there would would far fewer problems. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Tue May 4 15:45:40 2010 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 11:45:40 -0400 Subject: New 10.4 32 bit install, needs dns info In-Reply-To: References: <201005011851.33403.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <201005022152.15518.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <201005041145.40200.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Tuesday 04 May 2010, Tom H wrote: >On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Sunday 02 May 2010, Tom H wrote: >>>On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Gene Heskett >> >> wrote: >>>> On Sunday 02 May 2010, Tom H wrote: >>>>>On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Gene Heskett >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> This is for the iface eth0 static >>>>>> stanza in /etc/networking/interfaces >>>>>> >>>>>> The net is working locally by hosts file translations, but the >>>>>> manpage for interfaces does not demo how a dns address is passed. >>>>>> >>>>>> And of course, /etc/resolv.conf has no data other than claims to have >>>>>> been generated by network-manager, which I'd druther not fight with >>>>>> when a simple /etc/init.d/networking start should just do it. ISTR on >>>>>> 6.06, I was able to kill NM, and then hand edit resolv.conf, then >>>>>> make it immutable and that was the end of that, but it was also 6.06 >>>>>> and I expect things are done differently now. >>>>>> >>>>>> This should come up on boot using all static addressing. >>>>> >>>>>If you are not using NM, why don't you uninstall it and hand edit >>>>>/etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf (without any need to set >>>>>immutable, etc)? >>>> >>>> Ok, I'll do that later today. Thanks. >> >> And that worked. I removed NM, started networking, then fixed >> resolv.conf & everything in that regard is now working.. >> >>>You're welcome. >>> >>>There are two other options. >>> >>>1. Only configure lo in /etc/network/interfaces and configure your >>>static address and other settings in NM's GUI. >> >> I did try that, but couldn't get it to save my changes. >> >>>2. Configure the static address in /etc/network/interfaces but change >>>the "managed" setting in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf >>>so you still have NM on your box shozld you need it. >> >> Its gone, just as well. I've been doing it this way since about 1998. NM >> has always seemed to me to be a half baked solution in search of a >> problem, and if it cannot find a problem, then by golly it will make up >> one of its own. Its been quite good at that on my watch. >> >> Thank you Tom. > >You're welcome. > >I have tried in the past managing my wired setup myself and my >wireless setup through NM (rather than at the CLI out of sheer >laziness) and it worked well, but anyone who follows at least one >Linux list knows that NM-related problems are frequent... If NM (and >its dos and don'ts) and its configuration (and the location and syntax >of all its config files) were fully documented, there would would far >fewer problems. > +100 at least, Tom. Poor docs will be the death of us yet. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) You have literary talent that you should take pains to develop. From mmm286 at gmail.com Tue May 4 21:07:58 2010 From: mmm286 at gmail.com (mierdatutis mi) Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 23:07:58 +0200 Subject: help! Without signal after boot with LiveCD Message-ID: Hi, I'm booting with a usb with unetbootin my kubuntu 10.04. The problem is that when I select default and load the splashscreen, the monitor lost signal. Any help please?. I'm trying to install but is impossible I can't see anything. Many thanks and sorry for my english! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kubuntu at wastedtimes.net Tue May 4 22:56:38 2010 From: kubuntu at wastedtimes.net (Mark Kelly) Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 23:56:38 +0100 Subject: Turn off preview on Desktop folders In-Reply-To: References: <201004282206.13053.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> Message-ID: <201005042356.38252.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> Hi Michael. Thanks for taking the time to reply. On Tuesday 04 May 2010 at 04:55 Michael Hirsch wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Mark Kelly wrote: > > I find the contents preview that pops up when the mouse pointer is over a > > folder on my desktop really annoying - is there any way to turn them > > off? If possible without turning off the image/document previews? > > Funny, I can't find it in System Setting, but you can do it from > Konqueror or Dolphin. In Konq it's Settings->File Management->General > and then the previews tab. In Dolphin it is Settings->General and > then the previews tab. The setting in both of those places are turned off. I have also turned off previews in the settings for the "Folder View" widget that is displaying the desktop folder, but still I get previews. I've uploaded a cropped screengrab so you can see the preview I mean: http://wastedtimes.net/stuff/snapshot.png Any other thoughts on how to turn this off would be appreciated. Thanks anyway, Mark From claydoh at midmaine.com Tue May 4 23:16:10 2010 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 19:16:10 -0400 Subject: Turn off preview on Desktop folders In-Reply-To: <201005042356.38252.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> References: <201004282206.13053.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> <201005042356.38252.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> Message-ID: <201005041916.10896.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Tuesday, May 04, 2010 06:56:38 pm Mark Kelly wrote: > Hi Michael. > > Thanks for taking the time to reply. > > On Tuesday 04 May 2010 at 04:55 Michael Hirsch wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Mark Kelly wrote: > > > I find the contents preview that pops up when the mouse pointer is over > > > a folder on my desktop really annoying - is there any way to turn > > > them off? If possible without turning off the image/document previews? > > > > Funny, I can't find it in System Setting, but you can do it from > > Konqueror or Dolphin. In Konq it's Settings->File Management- >General > > and then the previews tab. In Dolphin it is Settings->General and > > then the previews tab. > > The setting in both of those places are turned off. I have also turned off > previews in the settings for the "Folder View" widget that is displaying > the desktop folder, but still I get previews. > > I've uploaded a cropped screengrab so you can see the preview I mean: > > http://wastedtimes.net/stuff/snapshot.png > > Any other thoughts on how to turn this off would be appreciated. > > Thanks anyway, > > Mark That is the Folder View plasma widget, and I don't see anyway to disable this. It's not really a preview, it is a way of navigating into subfolders from within the applet without having to open a file manager, a feature added by request from a good number of users. Unfortunately, the K|DE devs add it without adding a way to switch it off, so there is a request for that here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192821 Add your vote! So perhaps we'll see it in 4.5 clay From wayward4now at gmail.com Wed May 5 03:53:45 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 23:53:45 -0400 Subject: default audio selection Message-ID: <1273031625.2251.262.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> In Karmic, how do you select the default audio?? I have a system soundcard and a usb headphone. Is there a simple way to switch them on the fly?? I had just licked in jaunty with asoundconf-gtk, but there are some alsa utils missing in Karmic so that doesn't work anymore. Thanks! I'd just like to select the one appropriate when I need to change my sound output. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed May 5 04:14:21 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 14:14:21 +1000 Subject: default audio selection In-Reply-To: <1273031625.2251.262.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <1273031625.2251.262.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <4BE0F09D.4060003@iinet.net.au> On 05/05/10 13:53, Ric Moore wrote: > In Karmic, how do you select the default audio?? I have a system > soundcard and a usb headphone. Is there a simple way to switch them on > the fly?? I had just licked in jaunty with asoundconf-gtk, but there are > some alsa utils missing in Karmic so that doesn't work anymore. And so - why not install them? :-) > Thanks! > I'd just like to select the one appropriate when I need to change my > sound output. Ric > BC -- "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo Galilei From ubuntu-ml at rwz.de Wed May 5 06:05:51 2010 From: ubuntu-ml at rwz.de (Jens Strohschnitter) Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 08:05:51 +0200 Subject: Grouping programs in the taskbar In-Reply-To: References: <20100503160217.08e8932c@strohsje.rhg.de> Message-ID: <20100505080551.1451eebe@strohsje.rhg.de> > > after upgrading my dist to the new TLS 10.04 I could'nt find the option > > to group my programs in the taskbar. Isn't it possible in 10.04 to sort > > the progs in order as I opened them ? > > I right click on a blank spot on the Task Manager (sometimes I have to > close apps to get a clear area) and then select Task Manager Settings. On > the first window I have the chance to select grouping. Hm, when I klick on a blank area and open taskbar-settings, I have a new Taskbar where I can select further settings. But there is no option to select grouping :-( -- kind regards, Jens Strohschnitter ----------------------------------------- LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX Set the controls for the heart of the sun LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX ----------------------------------------- From wayward4now at gmail.com Wed May 5 06:33:36 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 02:33:36 -0400 Subject: default audio selection In-Reply-To: <4BE0F09D.4060003@iinet.net.au> References: <1273031625.2251.262.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <4BE0F09D.4060003@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1273041216.2251.267.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 14:14 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 05/05/10 13:53, Ric Moore wrote: > > In Karmic, how do you select the default audio?? I have a system > > soundcard and a usb headphone. Is there a simple way to switch them on > > the fly?? I had just licked in jaunty with asoundconf-gtk, but there are > > some alsa utils missing in Karmic so that doesn't work anymore. > > And so - why not install them? :-) Oh... I dunno. I thought there might be an official way to switch audio sources without finding the missing alsa-utils parts, and cobbling my system up just to make asoundconf-gtk work with karmic. If there is a new audio source switcher app that is convenient, I'm just not finding it. So, I asked. Got a straight answer? :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From kubuntu at wastedtimes.net Wed May 5 06:49:57 2010 From: kubuntu at wastedtimes.net (Mark Kelly) Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 07:49:57 +0100 Subject: Turn off preview on Desktop folders In-Reply-To: <201005041916.10896.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <201004282206.13053.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> <201005042356.38252.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> <201005041916.10896.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <201005050749.57936.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> Hi. On Wednesday 05 May 2010 at 00:16 Clay Weber wrote: > That is the Folder View plasma widget, and I don't see anyway to > disable this. It's not really a preview, it is a way of navigating into > subfolders from within the applet without having to open a file > manager, a feature added by request from a good number of users. Thank you Clay, for letting me know. It's disappointing to find I'm stuck with it, but not a total shock. > Unfortunately, the K|DE devs add it without adding a way to switch it > off, so there is a request for that here: > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192821 > Add your vote! I shall, once I have time to go through the account creation. Cheers, Mark From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed May 5 06:52:12 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 16:52:12 +1000 Subject: default audio selection In-Reply-To: <1273041216.2251.267.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <1273031625.2251.262.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <4BE0F09D.4060003@iinet.net.au> <1273041216.2251.267.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <4BE1159C.2090509@iinet.net.au> On 05/05/10 16:33, Ric Moore wrote: > On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 14:14 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote: > >> On 05/05/10 13:53, Ric Moore wrote: >> >>> In Karmic, how do you select the default audio?? I have a system >>> soundcard and a usb headphone. Is there a simple way to switch them on >>> the fly?? I had just licked in jaunty with asoundconf-gtk, but there are >>> some alsa utils missing in Karmic so that doesn't work anymore. >>> >> And so - why not install them? :-) >> > Oh... I dunno. I thought there might be an official way to switch audio > sources without finding the missing alsa-utils parts, and cobbling my > system up just to make asoundconf-gtk work with karmic. If there is a > new audio source switcher app that is convenient, I'm just not finding > it. So, I asked. Got a straight answer? :) Ric > :-) Have a look in the Synaptic Program Manager for such an animal - but I don't think that there is one so installing the alsautils will have to suffice. BC -- "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo Galilei From grey at dmiyu.org Wed May 5 09:35:09 2010 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 02:35:09 -0700 Subject: Chrome close-window beep in KUbuntu? Message-ID: <4BE13BCD.5070207@dmiyu.org> Any way to tell Chrome to shut up? Tired of it banging a bongo at me every time I close a tab. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Wed May 5 12:03:47 2010 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 15:03:47 +0300 Subject: Lucid Themes - Get Hot New Stuff - how? Message-ID: <4BE15EA3.7030900@prayingforisrael.net> I would like to change my Lucid theme and went to System Settings > Appearance > Style and the Workspace tab. I then clicked on the 'Get New Themes....' button and 'installed' a couple that I liked the look of :-) So far so good.... BUT where are they? They don't show up in the list of available themes - not even after a log out - log in -- but they are installed according to the Theme Manager. Any ideas? Blessings, Nigel From blchupin at iinet.net.au Wed May 5 12:26:26 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 22:26:26 +1000 Subject: Lucid Themes - Get Hot New Stuff - how? In-Reply-To: <4BE15EA3.7030900@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4BE15EA3.7030900@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <4BE163F2.7030302@iinet.net.au> On 05/05/10 22:03, Nigel Ridley wrote: > I would like to change my Lucid theme and went to System Settings> Appearance> Style and the > Workspace tab. I then clicked on the 'Get New Themes....' button and 'installed' a couple that I > liked the look of :-) > > So far so good.... BUT where are they? They don't show up in the list of available themes - not > even after a log out - log in -- but they are installed according to the Theme Manager. > > Any ideas? > Try either relogging back into the system, or rebooting the system. Many parameters are read in during boot and are stored in RAM and new items may not show up until the control/config file is read in afresh. BC -- "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo Galilei From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Wed May 5 15:29:11 2010 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 18:29:11 +0300 Subject: Lucid Themes - Get Hot New Stuff - how? In-Reply-To: <4BE163F2.7030302@iinet.net.au> References: <4BE15EA3.7030900@prayingforisrael.net> <4BE163F2.7030302@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4BE18EC7.7000802@prayingforisrael.net> On 05/05/2010 03:26 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 05/05/10 22:03, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> I would like to change my Lucid theme and went to System Settings> Appearance> Style and the >> Workspace tab. I then clicked on the 'Get New Themes....' button and 'installed' a couple that I >> liked the look of :-) >> >> So far so good.... BUT where are they? They don't show up in the list of available themes - not >> even after a log out - log in -- but they are installed according to the Theme Manager. >> >> Any ideas? >> > Try either relogging back into the system, or rebooting the system. Many > parameters are read in during boot and are stored in RAM and new items > may not show up until the control/config file is read in afresh. > > BC > Well, although not the Linux way, I did a reboot and the new themes I installed are still not showing up :-( -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ nigel at prayingforisrael.net From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Wed May 5 16:29:14 2010 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 19:29:14 +0300 Subject: Lucid Themes - Get Hot New Stuff - how? In-Reply-To: <4BE18EC7.7000802@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4BE15EA3.7030900@prayingforisrael.net> <4BE163F2.7030302@iinet.net.au> <4BE18EC7.7000802@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <4BE19CDA.2030009@prayingforisrael.net> On 05/05/2010 06:29 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 05/05/2010 03:26 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 05/05/10 22:03, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>> I would like to change my Lucid theme and went to System Settings> Appearance> Style and the >>> Workspace tab. I then clicked on the 'Get New Themes....' button and 'installed' a couple that I >>> liked the look of :-) >>> >>> So far so good.... BUT where are they? They don't show up in the list of available themes - not >>> even after a log out - log in -- but they are installed according to the Theme Manager. >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> >> Try either relogging back into the system, or rebooting the system. Many >> parameters are read in during boot and are stored in RAM and new items >> may not show up until the control/config file is read in afresh. >> >> BC >> > > Well, although not the Linux way, I did a reboot and the new themes I installed are still not > showing up :-( > I tried some more and it really is a kind of hit and miss. I 'installed' some more themes and some showed up and others didn't. I then 'uninstalled' the ones I didn't like and some disappeared and some stayed. Not very predictive..... ( I actually can't think of the right word - hard day at work....) Nigel From haferdi at gmail.com Wed May 5 16:45:15 2010 From: haferdi at gmail.com (Halil) Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 19:45:15 +0300 Subject: Lucid Themes - Get Hot New Stuff - how? In-Reply-To: <4BE19CDA.2030009@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4BE15EA3.7030900@prayingforisrael.net> <4BE18EC7.7000802@prayingforisrael.net> <4BE19CDA.2030009@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <201005051945.15934.haferdi@gmail.com> On Wednesday, May 05, 2010 19:29:14 Nigel Ridley wrote: > :-) Maybe some of the themes are not compatible with KDE SC 4.4.x (just an opinion) From mailing-lists-mmvi at bretschneidernet.de Wed May 5 17:09:32 2010 From: mailing-lists-mmvi at bretschneidernet.de (Martin Bretschneider) Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 19:09:32 +0200 Subject: Lucid, Kmail: double emails, not proper filtering Message-ID: <201005051909.32501.mailing-lists-mmvi@bretschneidernet.de> Hi, I did the upgrade vom Karmic to Lucid. I use Kmail for several POP3 account and do the filtering according to some email-headers. Since Lucid's Kmail, I do have to the following problems: 1. Some emails are filtered, some are not. A part of mailings liste are in the supposed folder and some are still in the inbox. The filter protocol does not seem to help since it is very big. 2. I get some emails a lot of times. It seems that Kmail does not delete the emails on the server. Do you have the same problems? TIA Martin -- http://www.martinbretschneider.de OpenPGP-key: 0x8063D4AE _o)(o_ Linus Torvalds: -./\\//\.- I was bitten by a penguin! _\_VV_/_ I mean, really! Take it from me! I'm wounded. From wayward4now at gmail.com Wed May 5 18:25:42 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 14:25:42 -0400 Subject: Chrome close-window beep in KUbuntu? In-Reply-To: <4BE13BCD.5070207@dmiyu.org> References: <4BE13BCD.5070207@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <1273083942.2251.300.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 02:35 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Any way to tell Chrome to shut up? Tired of it banging a bongo at me > every time I close a tab. "I don't wanna work, ... I jus wanna bang on de drum all day..." :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Wed May 5 18:29:23 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 14:29:23 -0400 Subject: default audio selection In-Reply-To: <4BE1159C.2090509@iinet.net.au> References: <1273031625.2251.262.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <4BE0F09D.4060003@iinet.net.au> <1273041216.2251.267.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <4BE1159C.2090509@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1273084163.2251.304.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 16:52 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 05/05/10 16:33, Ric Moore wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 14:14 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote: > > > >> On 05/05/10 13:53, Ric Moore wrote: > >> > >>> In Karmic, how do you select the default audio?? I have a system > >>> soundcard and a usb headphone. Is there a simple way to switch them on > >>> the fly?? I had just licked in jaunty with asoundconf-gtk, but there are > >>> some alsa utils missing in Karmic so that doesn't work anymore. > >>> > >> And so - why not install them? :-) > >> > > Oh... I dunno. I thought there might be an official way to switch audio > > sources without finding the missing alsa-utils parts, and cobbling my > > system up just to make asoundconf-gtk work with karmic. If there is a > > new audio source switcher app that is convenient, I'm just not finding > > it. So, I asked. Got a straight answer? :) Ric > > > > :-) > > Have a look in the Synaptic Program Manager for such an animal - but I > don't think that there is one so installing the alsautils will have to > suffice. Ah... progress!! I feel like I'm getting old and crotchety when I start thinking ..."I remember the day when I could just click on an icon and chose which audio device to use, when I felt like it. Now my computer is supposed to be smart enough to decide for me. Young whippersnappers!" Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Wed May 5 21:07:57 2010 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 17:07:57 -0400 Subject: OT: Re: Turn off preview on Desktop folders In-Reply-To: <201005050749.57936.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> References: <201004282206.13053.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> <201005041916.10896.claydoh@midmaine.com> <201005050749.57936.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> Message-ID: <201005051707.58094.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> Mark, That's a nice wallpaper you have in the screenshot. Where did you get it? -- Alan "Now no one has to tell an old Aberdeene pub-crawler how to applaud, captain." Montgomery Scott From claydoh at midmaine.com Wed May 5 21:49:53 2010 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 17:49:53 -0400 Subject: Lucid Themes - Get Hot New Stuff - how? In-Reply-To: <201005051945.15934.haferdi@gmail.com> References: <4BE15EA3.7030900@prayingforisrael.net> <4BE19CDA.2030009@prayingforisrael.net> <201005051945.15934.haferdi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201005051749.53596.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Wednesday, May 05, 2010 12:45:15 pm Halil wrote: > On Wednesday, May 05, 2010 19:29:14 Nigel Ridley wrote: > > :-) > > Maybe some of the themes are not compatible with KDE SC 4.4.x > (just an opinion) or perhaps the theme's creator did not package it properly for get Hot New Stuff clay From kubuntu at wastedtimes.net Wed May 5 22:53:28 2010 From: kubuntu at wastedtimes.net (Mark Kelly) Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 23:53:28 +0100 Subject: OT: Re: Turn off preview on Desktop folders In-Reply-To: <201005051707.58094.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> References: <201004282206.13053.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> <201005050749.57936.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> <201005051707.58094.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: <201005052353.28044.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> Hi Alan. On Wednesday 05 May 2010 at 22:07 Alan Dacey Sr. wrote: > That's a nice wallpaper you have in the screenshot. Where did you get it? It's not actually a wallpaper image, it's the KDE Mandelbrot "wallpaper" (a live fractal display). If you want to reproduce it the colours are: #000000 inside colour #585858 frontier colour #1B3D60 ouside colour In fact, have a screenie of the settings: http://wastedtimes.net/stuff/desktop-settings.png Have fun, Mark From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Wed May 5 23:54:52 2010 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 19:54:52 -0400 Subject: OT: Re: Turn off preview on Desktop folders In-Reply-To: <201005052353.28044.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> References: <201004282206.13053.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> <201005051707.58094.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <201005052353.28044.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> Message-ID: <201005051954.52580.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Wednesday 05 May 2010 06:53:28 pm Mark Kelly wrote: > Hi Alan. > > On Wednesday 05 May 2010 at 22:07 Alan Dacey Sr. wrote: > > That's a nice wallpaper you have in the screenshot. Where did you get > > it? > > It's not actually a wallpaper image, it's the KDE Mandelbrot "wallpaper" (a > live fractal display). > > If you want to reproduce it the colours are: > #000000 inside colour > #585858 frontier colour > #1B3D60 ouside colour > > In fact, have a screenie of the settings: > > http://wastedtimes.net/stuff/desktop-settings.png > > Have fun, > > Mark Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Alan "Now no one has to tell an old Aberdeene pub-crawler how to applaud, captain." Montgomery Scott From javier.gardeazabal at ehu.es Thu May 6 11:19:23 2010 From: javier.gardeazabal at ehu.es (Javier Gardeazabal) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 13:19:23 +0200 Subject: grub rescue Message-ID: <201005061319.23829.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> Hi I just updated my kubuntu distro to the new KUbuntu 10.4 Lucid Lynx. After initialization I get GRUB loading. error: the symbol 'grub_puts_' not found grub rescue> and the OS does not load. Any idea? Best javier From g.lip at gmx.com Thu May 6 11:51:56 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 19:51:56 +0800 Subject: grub rescue In-Reply-To: <201005061319.23829.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> References: <201005061319.23829.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> Message-ID: <20100506195156.e5dd305f.g.lip@gmx.com> On Thu, 6 May 2010 13:19:23 +0200 Javier Gardeazabal wrote: > Hi > > I just updated my kubuntu distro > to the new KUbuntu 10.4 Lucid Lynx. > After initialization I get > > GRUB loading. > error: the symbol 'grub_puts_' not found > grub rescue> > > and the OS does not load. > > Any idea? > > Best > javier > If you have a grub rescue cd, boot into lucid and at terminal sudo update-grub sudo grub-install /dev/sda If you don't have grub rescue cd. boot livecd and follow instructions from http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide regards - Goh Lip From info at alvin.be Thu May 6 11:52:18 2010 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 13:52:18 +0200 Subject: grub rescue In-Reply-To: <201005061319.23829.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> References: <201005061319.23829.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> Message-ID: <201005061352.19093.info@alvin.be> On Thursday 06 May 2010 13:19:23 Javier Gardeazabal wrote: > Hi > > I just updated my kubuntu distro > to the new KUbuntu 10.4 Lucid Lynx. > After initialization I get > > GRUB loading. > error: the symbol 'grub_puts_' not found > grub rescue> > > and the OS does not load. > > Any idea? Yes, "upgrades of the grub-pc package can overwrite wrong MBR " https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/496435 From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Thu May 6 12:04:54 2010 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 13:04:54 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu 10.04 and address book Message-ID: <201005061304.54553.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Could someone tell me the correct way to have the address book set up in 10.04? At the moment in KDE Resources I have Default Address book of type file /home/mfraser/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf, but in KAddressbook it is an Akonadi Resource called Personal Contacts at /home/mfraser/.local/share/contacts/. This obviously means that neither Kopete and KMail are looking at the right address book, but if I change KDE Resources to an Akonadi Resource Kontact doesn't start up. Please help me!! -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From pwhite at bluewin.ch Thu May 6 15:42:50 2010 From: pwhite at bluewin.ch (Perry) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 17:42:50 +0200 Subject: Grouping programs in the taskbar In-Reply-To: <20100505080551.1451eebe@strohsje.rhg.de> References: <20100503160217.08e8932c@strohsje.rhg.de> <20100505080551.1451eebe@strohsje.rhg.de> Message-ID: <201005061742.50719.pwhite@bluewin.ch> Le Wednesday 05 May 2010 08.05:51 Jens Strohschnitter, vous avez écrit (you wrote) : > when I klick on a blank area and open taskbar-settings, I have a new > Taskbar where I can select further settings. But there is no option to > select grouping > At this point, can't you just drag&drop to reorder your programs and use the spacer element? Is Lucid so different from Karmic? Cheers Perry -- BOFH excuse #253: We've run out of licenses From valtermura at gmail.com Thu May 6 16:38:14 2010 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 18:38:14 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu 10.04 and address book In-Reply-To: <201005061304.54553.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <201005061304.54553.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <201005061838.15415.valtermura@gmail.com> giovedì 6 maggio 2010 Mark Fraser ha scritto: > Could someone tell me the correct way to have the address book set up in > 10.04? > > At the moment in KDE Resources I have Default Address book of type file > /home/mfraser/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf, but in KAddressbook it is an > Akonadi Resource called Personal Contacts at > /home/mfraser/.local/share/contacts/. > > This obviously means that neither Kopete and KMail are looking at the right > address book, but if I change KDE Resources to an Akonadi Resource Kontact > doesn't start up. > Run the Akonady tray from Kmenu > Applications > Utilies > Akonady tray. On sistem tray will appear something like a blue world. Choose with right click Configure and then in the first tab click on the button Modify or Add. Choose the path where your file is and Akonady will check and use your addressbook. Next to the resource will appear a green dot and the word "ready". You added, for example, a new resource and then pointed to the old file. This works for me, even if I get error with the database and have to start the standalone version of the addressbook app (known and shared problem, AFAIK...) This is my experience. Bye, -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Fri May 7 02:53:57 2010 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 22:53:57 -0400 Subject: wireless connection problems Message-ID: <201005062253.57984.pkaplan1@comcast.net> I haven't had wireless problems on kubuntu for several years until Lucid. I did a fresh install and knetwork manager will not automatically connect to my LAN, although I can manually start the connection thru the manager. Even after the connecting, I keep getting a dialog asking for the password (which is already entered correctly. I used wicd under Karmic and this seems to be a total bust under Lucid. It rejects all attempts to connect, telling me that my password is incorrect (which it isn't). Have solutions to either network manager been posted? Paul From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Fri May 7 03:01:35 2010 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 23:01:35 -0400 Subject: 2nd X session Message-ID: <201005062301.36422.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Under karmic the following command would start a 2nd X session using the specified wm startx /usr/share/ -- :1 The same command under lucid hangs. What is the correct syntax now? Paul From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Fri May 7 03:03:41 2010 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 23:03:41 -0400 Subject: screen brightness under lucid Message-ID: <201005062303.42155.pkaplan1@comcast.net> I'm running lucid on a Thinkpad T41. Never had a display problem until the new install. As soon as I start KDE (not other WMs), the screen is dimmed to about 50% of brightness. I can brighten manually, but it's a PITA. Has anyone observed this or found a solution? Paul From kassube at gmx.net Fri May 7 03:19:03 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 05:19:03 +0200 Subject: wireless connection problems In-Reply-To: <201005062253.57984.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <201005062253.57984.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <201005070519.03251.kassube@gmx.net> pkaplan1 wrote: > I used wicd under Karmic and this seems to be a total bust under > Lucid. It rejects all attempts to connect, telling me that my > password is incorrect (which it isn't). If you want to use Wicd, you should uninstall network-manager. At least that's what was necessary here. Nils From luisgmarengo at aim.com Fri May 7 05:13:36 2010 From: luisgmarengo at aim.com (Gerardo) Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 01:13:36 -0400 Subject: wireless connection problems In-Reply-To: <201005062253.57984.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <201005062253.57984.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: pkaplan1 wrote: > I haven't had wireless problems on kubuntu for several years until Lucid. > I did a fresh install and knetwork manager will not automatically connect to > my LAN, although I can manually start the connection thru the manager. Even > after the connecting, I keep getting a dialog asking for the password (which > is already entered correctly. > > I used wicd under Karmic and this seems to be a total bust under Lucid. It > rejects all attempts to connect, telling me that my password is incorrect > (which it isn't). > > Have solutions to either network manager been posted? > Paul > I had the same problem too. I could connect to an unencrypted, but not to an WPA network. I ended up removing network manager and using wpa_supplicant. Here is my /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_psk.conf ------ BEGIN --------------- ap_scan=2 network={ scan_ssid=0 proto=WPA key_mgmt=WPA-PSK pairwise=TKIP group=TKIP ssid="My Router SSID" psk="My Password" } ----- END ------------- And here's my /etc/network/interfaces ----- BEGIN -------- # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo wlan0 iface lo inet loopback iface wlan0 inet dhcp # address 192.168.1.30 # netmask 255.255.255.0 wireless-essid children gateway 192.168.1.1 pre-up wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -iwlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_psk.conf post-down killall -q wpa_supplicant ----- END ------------- This gets me online as soon as I boot up. At any other time, I can bring it up with 'sudo ifup wlan0'. From jonorland at gmail.com Fri May 7 06:13:04 2010 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 08:13:04 +0200 Subject: 2nd X session In-Reply-To: <201005062301.36422.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <201005062301.36422.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: 2010/5/7 pkaplan1 : > Under karmic the following command would start a 2nd X session using the > specified wm > > startx /usr/share/ -- :1 > > The same command under lucid hangs. > Have you checked the /var/log/Xorg.1.log for errors? Check what the "allowed_users" option in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config is. / Jonas From errol at tzora.co.il Fri May 7 12:00:17 2010 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 15:00:17 +0300 Subject: openoffice.org - presentation problem Message-ID: <4BE400D1.60209@tzora.co.il> I hope I can provide enough of the correct info for somebody to be able to help me. I run the 32 bit Lucid on two different but similar computers. I use open office 3.2 on both (they both have "oracle" written on the logo when any open office program is started). They were installed by default when installing Kubuntu. Both computers have an AMD 64 bit CPU. The one at home has the Athlone 64 bit 3500 CPU, 2 giga memory and the GEForce 6600 256MB OB graphics card. The computer at work has the 64 bit 3500+ CPU with 1 giga memory and the GEForce 5200 (not OB) 128 MB graphics card. Both graphics cards use the NVidia 173.14.22 driver. Now for the problem: On the computer at home (theoretically the "stronger" computer) I am unable to see any slide show using "presentation". I doesn't matter if the presentation was made in pps or opt format. The minute I try to see it as a slide show, the screen "freezes". The first slide comes up and "breaks up" on the screen and nothing further can be done. The only way out of all this is to press the escape button and the the program "releases" the computer for use. On the computer at work (the "weaker" one) there is no problem. In writing this thread, I tried out two other programs I use which have a slide show option (digikam & showfoto). To my surprise , they have the same problem - unable to show a slide show without "freezing". I don't have a problem seeing a moving graphic program, whether it's youtube, a DVD movie or whatever. My conclusion is that it's a graphic configuration problem. Does this sound right? Help in any direction will be appreciated. Errol From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri May 7 12:13:24 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 22:13:24 +1000 Subject: openoffice.org - presentation problem In-Reply-To: <4BE400D1.60209@tzora.co.il> References: <4BE400D1.60209@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4BE403E4.1050302@iinet.net.au> On 07/05/10 22:00, Errol Sapir wrote: > I hope I can provide enough of the correct info for somebody to be able > to help me. I run the 32 bit Lucid on two different but similar > computers. I use open office 3.2 on both (they both have "oracle" > written on the logo when any open office program is started). They were > installed by default when installing Kubuntu. > Both computers have an AMD 64 bit CPU. The one at home has the Athlone > 64 bit 3500 CPU, 2 giga memory and the GEForce 6600 256MB OB graphics > card. The computer at work has the 64 bit 3500+ CPU with 1 giga memory > and the GEForce 5200 (not OB) 128 MB graphics card. Both graphics cards > use the NVidia 173.14.22 driver. > Now for the problem: On the computer at home (theoretically the > "stronger" computer) I am unable to see any slide show using > "presentation". I doesn't matter if the presentation was made in pps or > opt format. The minute I try to see it as a slide show, the screen > "freezes". The first slide comes up and "breaks up" on the screen and > nothing further can be done. The only way out of all this is to press > the escape button and the the program "releases" the computer for use. > On the computer at work (the "weaker" one) there is no problem. > In writing this thread, I tried out two other programs I use which have > a slide show option (digikam& showfoto). To my surprise , they have the > same problem - unable to show a slide show without "freezing". I don't > have a problem seeing a moving graphic program, whether it's youtube, a > DVD movie or whatever. > My conclusion is that it's a graphic configuration problem. Does this > sound right? Help in any direction will be appreciated. > Errol > > The 6600 card (I am using one right now) works with the latest #195 driver from nVidia; the 5200 will not work with anything above the legacy #173 driver. The real question here is: while you may have these drivers installed, do you have them active? That is, are the drivers actually being loaded or do you still have the default nv driver being loaded? For example, are you able to use compiz? If not then the 'proper' nVidia driver(s) are not being used. (Another way to find out is to run "glxgears" from the command line and if it doesn't run then the driver(s) are not installed.) BC -- "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo Galilei From ralph.puncher at ripnet.com Fri May 7 12:20:41 2010 From: ralph.puncher at ripnet.com (Ralph) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 08:20:41 -0400 Subject: wireless connection problems In-Reply-To: <201005062253.57984.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <201005062253.57984.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <201005070820.41679.ralph.puncher@ripnet.com> On May 6, 2010 10:53:57 pm pkaplan1 wrote: > I haven't had wireless problems on kubuntu for several years until Lucid. > I did a fresh install and knetwork manager will not automatically connect > to my LAN, although I can manually start the connection thru the manager. > Even after the connecting, I keep getting a dialog asking for the password > (which is already entered correctly. > > I used wicd under Karmic and this seems to be a total bust under Lucid. It > rejects all attempts to connect, telling me that my password is incorrect > (which it isn't). > > Have solutions to either network manager been posted? > Paul I have no problem with knetworkmanager for a wireless WPA2 connection. It is partially automatic only because I am asked for the Wallet password where my WPA2 pass-phrase is stored. Ralph From rrumberger at web.de Fri May 7 13:25:38 2010 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 15:25:38 +0200 Subject: screen brightness under lucid In-Reply-To: <201005062303.42155.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <201005062303.42155.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <201005071525.38968.rrumberger@web.de> On Friday 07 May 2010, pkaplan1 wrote: > I'm running lucid on a Thinkpad T41. Never had a display problem > until the new install. > > As soon as I start KDE (not other WMs), the screen is dimmed to > about 50% of brightness. I can brighten manually, but it's a > PITA. > > Has anyone observed this or found a solution? My Laptop does the same thing when on battery - that's how I set it up. Check your power management settings, they might be causing this. --Reinhold From errol at tzora.co.il Fri May 7 13:57:17 2010 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 16:57:17 +0300 Subject: openoffice.org - presentation problem In-Reply-To: <4BE403E4.1050302@iinet.net.au> References: <4BE400D1.60209@tzora.co.il> <4BE403E4.1050302@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4BE41C3D.2080302@tzora.co.il> On 05/07/2010 03:13 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 07/05/10 22:00, Errol Sapir wrote: > >> I hope I can provide enough of the correct info for somebody to be able >> to help me. I run the 32 bit Lucid on two different but similar >> computers. I use open office 3.2 on both (they both have "oracle" >> written on the logo when any open office program is started). They were >> installed by default when installing Kubuntu. >> Both computers have an AMD 64 bit CPU. The one at home has the Athlone >> 64 bit 3500 CPU, 2 giga memory and the GEForce 6600 256MB OB graphics >> card. The computer at work has the 64 bit 3500+ CPU with 1 giga memory >> and the GEForce 5200 (not OB) 128 MB graphics card. Both graphics cards >> use the NVidia 173.14.22 driver. >> Now for the problem: On the computer at home (theoretically the >> "stronger" computer) I am unable to see any slide show using >> "presentation". I doesn't matter if the presentation was made in pps or >> opt format. The minute I try to see it as a slide show, the screen >> "freezes". The first slide comes up and "breaks up" on the screen and >> nothing further can be done. The only way out of all this is to press >> the escape button and the the program "releases" the computer for use. >> On the computer at work (the "weaker" one) there is no problem. >> In writing this thread, I tried out two other programs I use which have >> a slide show option (digikam& showfoto). To my surprise , they have the >> same problem - unable to show a slide show without "freezing". I don't >> have a problem seeing a moving graphic program, whether it's youtube, a >> DVD movie or whatever. >> My conclusion is that it's a graphic configuration problem. Does this >> sound right? Help in any direction will be appreciated. >> Errol >> >> >> > The 6600 card (I am using one right now) works with the latest #195 > driver from nVidia; the 5200 will not work with anything above the > legacy #173 driver. > > The real question here is: while you may have these drivers installed, > do you have them active? That is, are the drivers actually being loaded > or do you still have the default nv driver being loaded? For example, > are you able to use compiz? If not then the 'proper' nVidia driver(s) > are not being used. (Another way to find out is to run "glxgears" from > the command line and if it doesn't run then the driver(s) are not > installed.) > > BC > > > When trying glxgears I got the message that "glxgears" is not installed so I did: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils and ran glxgears. The gears then "ran" which shows that my drivers are activated. Despite that I got the following message: errol-linux:~$ glxgears Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. 10040 frames in 5.0 seconds 9241 frames in 5.0 seconds XIO: fatal IO error 22 (Invalid argument) on X server ":0.0" after 42 requests (42 known processed) with 0 events remaining. I am trying to the #195 driver and install that but the only options offered to me are up to the #173. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri May 7 14:37:28 2010 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 10:37:28 -0400 Subject: wireless connection problems In-Reply-To: <201005062253.57984.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <201005062253.57984.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <201005071037.29003.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Thursday, May 06, 2010, pkaplan1 wrote: > I used wicd under Karmic and this seems to be a total bust under > Lucid. It rejects all attempts to connect, telling me that my password > is incorrect (which it isn't). > > Have solutions to either network manager been posted? > Paul I have NEVER gotten kmanager to connect in the last 3 kubuntu releases and always have to resort to a wired connection in order to install wicd. And wicd has always worked well until lucid. The problem?? Normally when you install wicd, it removes network manager and everything works well. For lucid, NM is NOT removed and this causes problems with wpa-supplicant having two copies, one for NM and the other for wicd. The answer?? Remove NM like it should have been removed. Wicd will work fine after a reboot or shutdown of the running NM. From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri May 7 15:12:59 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 01:12:59 +1000 Subject: openoffice.org - presentation problem In-Reply-To: <4BE41C3D.2080302@tzora.co.il> References: <4BE400D1.60209@tzora.co.il> <4BE403E4.1050302@iinet.net.au> <4BE41C3D.2080302@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4BE42DFB.5000202@iinet.net.au> On 07/05/10 23:57, Errol Sapir wrote: > On 05/07/2010 03:13 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > >> On 07/05/10 22:00, Errol Sapir wrote: >> >> >>> I hope I can provide enough of the correct info for somebody to be able >>> to help me. I run the 32 bit Lucid on two different but similar >>> computers. I use open office 3.2 on both (they both have "oracle" >>> written on the logo when any open office program is started). They were >>> installed by default when installing Kubuntu. >>> Both computers have an AMD 64 bit CPU. The one at home has the Athlone >>> 64 bit 3500 CPU, 2 giga memory and the GEForce 6600 256MB OB graphics >>> card. The computer at work has the 64 bit 3500+ CPU with 1 giga memory >>> and the GEForce 5200 (not OB) 128 MB graphics card. Both graphics cards >>> use the NVidia 173.14.22 driver. >>> Now for the problem: On the computer at home (theoretically the >>> "stronger" computer) I am unable to see any slide show using >>> "presentation". I doesn't matter if the presentation was made in pps or >>> opt format. The minute I try to see it as a slide show, the screen >>> "freezes". The first slide comes up and "breaks up" on the screen and >>> nothing further can be done. The only way out of all this is to press >>> the escape button and the the program "releases" the computer for use. >>> On the computer at work (the "weaker" one) there is no problem. >>> In writing this thread, I tried out two other programs I use which have >>> a slide show option (digikam& showfoto). To my surprise , they have the >>> same problem - unable to show a slide show without "freezing". I don't >>> have a problem seeing a moving graphic program, whether it's youtube, a >>> DVD movie or whatever. >>> My conclusion is that it's a graphic configuration problem. Does this >>> sound right? Help in any direction will be appreciated. >>> Errol >>> >>> >>> >>> >> The 6600 card (I am using one right now) works with the latest #195 >> driver from nVidia; the 5200 will not work with anything above the >> legacy #173 driver. >> >> The real question here is: while you may have these drivers installed, >> do you have them active? That is, are the drivers actually being loaded >> or do you still have the default nv driver being loaded? For example, >> are you able to use compiz? If not then the 'proper' nVidia driver(s) >> are not being used. (Another way to find out is to run "glxgears" from >> the command line and if it doesn't run then the driver(s) are not >> installed.) >> >> BC >> >> >> >> > When trying glxgears I got the message that "glxgears" is not installed > so I did: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils and ran glxgears. The gears > then "ran" which shows that my drivers are activated. Despite that I got > the following message: > errol-linux:~$ glxgears > Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be > approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. > 10040 frames in 5.0 seconds > 9241 frames in 5.0 seconds > XIO: fatal IO error 22 (Invalid argument) on X server ":0.0" > after 42 requests (42 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > > I am trying to the #195 driver and install that but the only options > offered to me are up to the #173. > I am now "getting out of my league" on this because 1) I don't run Kubuntu - I gave KDE away in preference to Gnome, and 2) I don't run a 64-bit system. Nevertheless I will ask this: which monitor do you have and is it/they setup correctly in Kubuntu? I mean, does Kubuntu show correctly the monitor it detected on installation and it refresh rate and resolution? Have you looked here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video ? Re the #195 driver, in Ubuntu there is an option which checks if the nvidia driver is installed and then, if not, gives you the option to install a driver - but it doesn't show that the latest driver is #195; however, one can see what the driver is by looking in the Synaptic Package Manager. In Kubuntu/KDE you should be able to see same by looking in the Software Manager -and there you should also be able to select it for installation. But here I have to make an additional comment: in my Ubuntu Lucid I have a repo selected in the Sources which may be have given me the #195 driver, but the driver which actually comes with the release version of Lucid could be #193. In case, therefore, you may find that you only have the choice of installing #193. (All clear as mud? :-) ) BC -- "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo Galilei From javier.gardeazabal at ehu.es Fri May 7 15:25:21 2010 From: javier.gardeazabal at ehu.es (Javier Gardeazabal) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 17:25:21 +0200 Subject: grub rescue In-Reply-To: <20100506195156.e5dd305f.g.lip@gmx.com> References: <201005061319.23829.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> <20100506195156.e5dd305f.g.lip@gmx.com> Message-ID: <201005071725.21148.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> On Thursday, 6 de May de 2010 13:51:56 Goh Lip wrote: > On Thu, 6 May 2010 13:19:23 +0200 > > Javier Gardeazabal wrote: > > Hi > > > > I just updated my kubuntu distro > > to the new KUbuntu 10.4 Lucid Lynx. > > After initialization I get > > > > GRUB loading. > > error: the symbol 'grub_puts_' not found > > grub rescue> > > > > and the OS does not load. > > > > Any idea? > > > > Best > > javier > > If you have a grub rescue cd, boot into lucid and at terminal > sudo update-grub > sudo grub-install /dev/sda > > If you don't have grub rescue cd. boot livecd and follow instructions > from > http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide > > regards - Goh Lip Hi there I booted from a livecd and typed sudo fdisk -l sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys sudo chroot /mnt grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg grub-install /dev/sda This returned no errors. After this I typed Ctrl+D (to exit out of chroot) sudo umount /mnt/dev sudo umount /mnt I rebooted my system and this time I got "Gave up wiating for root device. Common problems: - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) - check rootdelay= (did the system wait for long enugh?) - check root= (did the system wait for the right device?) - Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev) ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/91276d9a-60fb-42ae-8846-18dc1f7def3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! BusyBox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built-in shell (ash) (initramfs) Do you guys have any idea? Best javier From g.lip at gmx.com Fri May 7 16:29:33 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 00:29:33 +0800 Subject: grub rescue In-Reply-To: <201005071725.21148.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> References: <201005061319.23829.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> <20100506195156.e5dd305f.g.lip@gmx.com> <201005071725.21148.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> Message-ID: <20100508002933.8116e879.g.lip@gmx.com> On Fri, 7 May 2010 17:25:21 +0200 Javier Gardeazabal wrote: > On Thursday, 6 de May de 2010 13:51:56 Goh Lip wrote: > > On Thu, 6 May 2010 13:19:23 +0200 > > > > Javier Gardeazabal wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > I just updated my kubuntu distro > > > to the new KUbuntu 10.4 Lucid Lynx. > > > After initialization I get > > > > > > GRUB loading. > > > error: the symbol 'grub_puts_' not found > > > grub rescue> > > > > > > and the OS does not load. > > > > > > Any idea? > > > > > > Best > > > javier > > > > If you have a grub rescue cd, boot into lucid and at terminal > > sudo update-grub > > sudo grub-install /dev/sda > > > > If you don't have grub rescue cd. boot livecd and follow > > instructions from > > http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide > > > > regards - Goh Lip > > Hi there > > I booted from a livecd and typed > > sudo fdisk -l > sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt > sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev > sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc > sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys > sudo chroot /mnt > grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg > grub-install /dev/sda > > This returned no errors. > After this I typed > > Ctrl+D (to exit out of chroot) > sudo umount /mnt/dev > sudo umount /mnt > > I rebooted my system and this time I got > > "Gave up wiating for root device. Common problems: > - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) > - check rootdelay= (did the system wait for long enugh?) > - check root= (did the system wait for the right device?) > - Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev) > ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/91276d9a-60fb-42ae-8846-18dc1f7def3 does not > exist. Dropping to a shell! > > BusyBox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built-in shell (ash) > > (initramfs) > > Do you guys have any idea? > > Best > javier The message indicates that the uuid is probably the wrong one. Javier, when starting up, did you get to a grub menu? If no, try by pressing 'shift' when starting up. If yes, please go to the grub prompt by pressing 'c'. At grub prompt, type the following search -f /vmlinuz note the output which is in this format ==> hd0,x then type linux (hd0,x)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdax ro initrd (hd0,x)/initrd.img boot as an example, if output is hd0,3, type linux (hd0,3)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 ro initrd (hd0,3)/initrd.img boot *note* the sda3 above when booted into kubuntu, type at terminal again... sudo update-grub sudo grub-install /dev/sda Hope this helps. Regards - Goh Lip ps: did not like chroot myself. -- From g.lip at gmx.com Fri May 7 16:29:33 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 00:29:33 +0800 Subject: grub rescue In-Reply-To: <201005071725.21148.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> References: <201005061319.23829.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> <20100506195156.e5dd305f.g.lip@gmx.com> <201005071725.21148.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> Message-ID: <20100508002933.8116e879.g.lip@gmx.com> On Fri, 7 May 2010 17:25:21 +0200 Javier Gardeazabal wrote: > On Thursday, 6 de May de 2010 13:51:56 Goh Lip wrote: > > On Thu, 6 May 2010 13:19:23 +0200 > > > > Javier Gardeazabal wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > I just updated my kubuntu distro > > > to the new KUbuntu 10.4 Lucid Lynx. > > > After initialization I get > > > > > > GRUB loading. > > > error: the symbol 'grub_puts_' not found > > > grub rescue> > > > > > > and the OS does not load. > > > > > > Any idea? > > > > > > Best > > > javier > > > > If you have a grub rescue cd, boot into lucid and at terminal > > sudo update-grub > > sudo grub-install /dev/sda > > > > If you don't have grub rescue cd. boot livecd and follow > > instructions from > > http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide > > > > regards - Goh Lip > > Hi there > > I booted from a livecd and typed > > sudo fdisk -l > sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt > sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev > sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc > sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys > sudo chroot /mnt > grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg > grub-install /dev/sda > > This returned no errors. > After this I typed > > Ctrl+D (to exit out of chroot) > sudo umount /mnt/dev > sudo umount /mnt > > I rebooted my system and this time I got > > "Gave up wiating for root device. Common problems: > - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) > - check rootdelay= (did the system wait for long enugh?) > - check root= (did the system wait for the right device?) > - Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev) > ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/91276d9a-60fb-42ae-8846-18dc1f7def3 does not > exist. Dropping to a shell! > > BusyBox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built-in shell (ash) > > (initramfs) > > Do you guys have any idea? > > Best > javier The message indicates that the uuid is probably the wrong one. Javier, when starting up, did you get to a grub menu? If no, try by pressing 'shift' when starting up. If yes, please go to the grub prompt by pressing 'c'. At grub prompt, type the following search -f /vmlinuz note the output which is in this format ==> hd0,x then type linux (hd0,x)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdax ro initrd (hd0,x)/initrd.img boot as an example, if output is hd0,3, type linux (hd0,3)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 ro initrd (hd0,3)/initrd.img boot *note* the sda3 above when booted into kubuntu, type at terminal again... sudo update-grub sudo grub-install /dev/sda Hope this helps. Regards - Goh Lip ps: did not like chroot myself. -- From g.lip at gmx.com Fri May 7 17:07:40 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 01:07:40 +0800 Subject: grub rescue In-Reply-To: <20100508002933.8116e879.g.lip@gmx.com> References: <201005061319.23829.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> <20100506195156.e5dd305f.g.lip@gmx.com> <201005071725.21148.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> <20100508002933.8116e879.g.lip@gmx.com> Message-ID: <4BE448DC.50708@gmx.com> On 05/08/2010 12:29 AM, Goh Lip wrote: > On Fri, 7 May 2010 17:25:21 +0200 > Javier Gardeazabal wrote: >> I booted from a livecd and typed >> >> sudo fdisk -l >> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt Javier, do you have other OS other than kubuntu, like windows? Do you know how many partitions you had? And, do you remember the output of "sudo fdisk -l" above? Regards - Goh Lip From javier.gardeazabal at ehu.es Fri May 7 17:32:30 2010 From: javier.gardeazabal at ehu.es (JAVIER GARDEAZABAL) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 19:32:30 +0200 Subject: Fwd: Re: grub rescue Message-ID: <20100507193230.83226ieqm6g4n8g0@www.ehu.es> On 05/08/2010 12:29 AM, Goh Lip wrote: > On Fri, 7 May 2010 17:25:21 +0200 > Javier Gardeazabal wrote: >> I booted from a livecd and typed >> >> sudo fdisk -l >> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt Javier, do you have other OS other than kubuntu, like windows? Do you know how many partitions you had? And, do you remember the output of "sudo fdisk -l" above? Regards - Goh Lip Dear Goh Thanks a lot for your help. I did not try your last suggestions yet. I do not have windows in my box. This is what fdisk delivers ubuntu at ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 146.8 GB, 146815733760 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 17849 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0ecab17e Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 17119 137508336 83 Linux /dev/sda2 17120 17849 5863725 5 Extended /dev/sda5 17120 17849 5863693+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris Disk /dev/sdb: 300.0 GB, 300000000000 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 36472 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xe5b8e05c Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 2 36472 292953307+ 7 HPFS/NTFS Best javier From g.lip at gmx.com Fri May 7 17:47:44 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 01:47:44 +0800 Subject: Fwd: Re: grub rescue In-Reply-To: <20100507193230.83226ieqm6g4n8g0@www.ehu.es> References: <20100507193230.83226ieqm6g4n8g0@www.ehu.es> Message-ID: <4BE45240.2000708@gmx.com> On 05/08/2010 01:32 AM, JAVIER GARDEAZABAL wrote: > On 05/08/2010 12:29 AM, Goh Lip wrote: >> On Fri, 7 May 2010 17:25:21 +0200 >> Javier Gardeazabal wrote: > > >>> I booted from a livecd and typed >>> >>> sudo fdisk -l >>> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt > > Javier, do you have other OS other than kubuntu, like windows? > Do you know how many partitions you had? > And, do you remember the output of "sudo fdisk -l" above? > > Regards - Goh Lip > > Dear Goh > > Thanks a lot for your help. > I did not try your last suggestions yet. > I do not have windows in my box. > This is what fdisk delivers > > ubuntu at ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l > > Disk /dev/sda: 146.8 GB, 146815733760 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 17849 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > Disk identifier: 0x0ecab17e > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 * 1 17119 137508336 83 Linux > /dev/sda2 17120 17849 5863725 5 Extended > /dev/sda5 17120 17849 5863693+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris > > Disk /dev/sdb: 300.0 GB, 300000000000 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 36472 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > Disk identifier: 0xe5b8e05c > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sdb1 2 36472 292953307+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > > > Best > javier Phew! That's a relief! (for me) I've put this message in my draft and just for kicks, I'll share it with you.. *draft* Extract of http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide : Step Two: Mounting and chroot'ing Open a Terminal window and type sudo fdisk -l (That's a lowercase L at the end). Now this part can be tricky because you have to figure out which one of those listed devices is your linux installation. The easiest way is to see which one is listed as Linux, so remember this value. Mine was /dev/sda1 and so I will use that as reference in this guide. If you got a separate /boot partition, you'll have to mount it too. Javier, I think you have messed up your windows partition as windows normally resides in sda1. chrooting is inherently very risky as you are in root and can do real damage. You should be very sure about the partition at sudo fdisk -l before you proceed. I myself would not touch chroot. *undraft* Javier, if you need me to send you a grub iso,(and you can burn to a cd) I'll gladly do so. Take care, regards - Goh Lip From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri May 7 18:21:51 2010 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 21:21:51 +0300 Subject: Device Notifier: Make "Remove Media" button easier to find Message-ID: If you want to _finally_ improve the Device Notifier, please comment and vote here: http://forum.kde.org/brainstorm.php#idea87620_page1 This is one of the few big remaining usability issues in KDE 4, let's get it over with. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com From javier.gardeazabal at ehu.es Fri May 7 19:01:35 2010 From: javier.gardeazabal at ehu.es (Javier Gardeazabal) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 21:01:35 +0200 Subject: Fwd: Re: grub rescue In-Reply-To: <4BE45240.2000708@gmx.com> References: <20100507193230.83226ieqm6g4n8g0@www.ehu.es> <4BE45240.2000708@gmx.com> Message-ID: <201005072101.35926.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> On Friday, 7 de May de 2010 19:47:44 Goh Lip wrote: > On 05/08/2010 01:32 AM, JAVIER GARDEAZABAL wrote: > > On 05/08/2010 12:29 AM, Goh Lip wrote: > >> On Fri, 7 May 2010 17:25:21 +0200 > >> > >> Javier Gardeazabal wrote: > >>> I booted from a livecd and typed > >>> > >>> sudo fdisk -l > >>> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt > > > > Javier, do you have other OS other than kubuntu, like windows? > > Do you know how many partitions you had? > > And, do you remember the output of "sudo fdisk -l" above? > > > > Regards - Goh Lip > > > > Dear Goh > > > > Thanks a lot for your help. > > I did not try your last suggestions yet. > > I do not have windows in my box. > > This is what fdisk delivers > > > > ubuntu at ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l > > > > Disk /dev/sda: 146.8 GB, 146815733760 bytes > > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 17849 cylinders > > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > > Disk identifier: 0x0ecab17e > > > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > /dev/sda1 * 1 17119 137508336 83 Linux > > /dev/sda2 17120 17849 5863725 5 Extended > > /dev/sda5 17120 17849 5863693+ 82 Linux swap / > > Solaris > > > > Disk /dev/sdb: 300.0 GB, 300000000000 bytes > > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 36472 cylinders > > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > > Disk identifier: 0xe5b8e05c > > > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > /dev/sdb1 2 36472 292953307+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > > > > > > Best > > javier > > Phew! That's a relief! (for me) > I've put this message in my draft and just for kicks, I'll share it with > you.. > > *draft* > Extract of http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide : > > > Step Two: Mounting and chroot'ing > > Open a Terminal window and type sudo fdisk -l (That's a lowercase L at > the end). > Now this part can be tricky because you have to figure out which one of > those listed devices is your linux installation. The easiest way is to > see which one is listed as Linux, so remember this value. Mine was > /dev/sda1 and so I will use that as reference in this guide. > If you got a separate /boot partition, you'll have to mount it too. > > > > Javier, I think you have messed up your windows partition as windows > normally resides in sda1. > > chrooting is inherently very risky as you are in root and can do real > damage. You should be very sure about the partition at sudo fdisk -l > before you proceed. I myself would not touch chroot. > > *undraft* > > Javier, if you need me to send you a grub iso,(and you can burn to a cd) > I'll gladly do so. > > > Take care, regards - Goh Lip Dear Goh I do not understand. I do not have windows on my machine. Perhaps you say >Javier, I think you have messed up your windows partition as windows > normally resides in sda1. because my second drive has an ntfs filesystem. It was there when I bought it, but windows has never touched that drive. In the mean time got a grub iso. At the grub prompt I typed linux (hd1,x)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro initrd (hd1,x)/initrd.img boot This returned lots of stuff and then stopped with the cursor blinking for a long...time. Pressing the enter key returns the initramfs prompt. Cheers javier From ubuntu at metron.com Fri May 7 19:10:16 2010 From: ubuntu at metron.com (Lou Katz) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 12:10:16 -0700 Subject: How can I get X to work on older, wierd netbooks Message-ID: <20100507191016.GA29134@metron.com> I have an older Kohjinsha netbook with an AMD Geode processor that reports Geode LX Video. The 10.04 Xubuntu CD shows up just fine with the Xubuntu logo and while booting, shows the mouse-in-the-moon graphics logo. Once booted, I have a blank screen. X is running and I can get to the command line screens (Ctrl-Alt-F1,F2, etc). I would be happy for now if I could just coax X to use whatever graphics mode was used during booting. Any hints or pointers??? -- -=[L]=- Schizophrenia beats being alone. From g.lip at gmx.com Fri May 7 19:20:28 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 03:20:28 +0800 Subject: Fwd: Re: grub rescue In-Reply-To: <201005072101.35926.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> References: <20100507193230.83226ieqm6g4n8g0@www.ehu.es> <4BE45240.2000708@gmx.com> <201005072101.35926.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> Message-ID: <4BE467FC.9010307@gmx.com> On 05/08/2010 03:01 AM, Javier Gardeazabal wrote: > On Friday, 7 de May de 2010 19:47:44 Goh Lip wrote: >> On 05/08/2010 01:32 AM, JAVIER GARDEAZABAL wrote: >>> On 05/08/2010 12:29 AM, Goh Lip wrote: >>>> On Fri, 7 May 2010 17:25:21 +0200 >>>> >>>> Javier Gardeazabal wrote: >>>>> I booted from a livecd and typed >>>>> >>>>> sudo fdisk -l >>>>> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt >>> >>> Javier, do you have other OS other than kubuntu, like windows? >>> Do you know how many partitions you had? >>> And, do you remember the output of "sudo fdisk -l" above? >>> >>> Regards - Goh Lip >>> >>> Dear Goh >>> >>> Thanks a lot for your help. >>> I did not try your last suggestions yet. >>> I do not have windows in my box. >>> This is what fdisk delivers >>> >>> ubuntu at ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l >>> >>> Disk /dev/sda: 146.8 GB, 146815733760 bytes >>> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 17849 cylinders >>> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes >>> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>> Disk identifier: 0x0ecab17e >>> >>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>> /dev/sda1 * 1 17119 137508336 83 Linux >>> /dev/sda2 17120 17849 5863725 5 Extended >>> /dev/sda5 17120 17849 5863693+ 82 Linux swap / >>> Solaris >>> >>> Disk /dev/sdb: 300.0 GB, 300000000000 bytes >>> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 36472 cylinders >>> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes >>> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>> Disk identifier: 0xe5b8e05c >>> >>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>> /dev/sdb1 2 36472 292953307+ 7 HPFS/NTFS >>> >>> >>> Best >>> javier >> >> Phew! That's a relief! (for me) >> I've put this message in my draft and just for kicks, I'll share it with >> you.. >> >> *draft* >> Extract of http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide : >> >> >> Step Two: Mounting and chroot'ing >> >> Open a Terminal window and type sudo fdisk -l (That's a lowercase L at >> the end). >> Now this part can be tricky because you have to figure out which one of >> those listed devices is your linux installation. The easiest way is to >> see which one is listed as Linux, so remember this value. Mine was >> /dev/sda1 and so I will use that as reference in this guide. >> If you got a separate /boot partition, you'll have to mount it too. >> >> >> >> Javier, I think you have messed up your windows partition as windows >> normally resides in sda1. >> >> chrooting is inherently very risky as you are in root and can do real >> damage. You should be very sure about the partition at sudo fdisk -l >> before you proceed. I myself would not touch chroot. >> >> *undraft* >> >> Javier, if you need me to send you a grub iso,(and you can burn to a cd) >> I'll gladly do so. >> >> >> Take care, regards - Goh Lip > > Dear Goh > > I do not understand. I do not have windows on my machine. > Perhaps you say >> Javier, I think you have messed up your windows partition as windows >> normally resides in sda1. > because my second drive has an ntfs filesystem. It was there when I bought it, > but windows has never touched that drive. > > In the mean time got a grub iso. > At the grub prompt I typed > linux (hd1,x)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro > initrd (hd1,x)/initrd.img > boot > > This returned lots of stuff and then stopped with the cursor blinking for a > long...time. > Pressing the enter key returns the initramfs prompt. > > Cheers > javier > Javier, don't worry about the windows thing.. I was worried for nothing for a while. It's okay....all is fine. Now, did you get "hd1,1" or "hd0,1" from the output at "search -f /vmlinuz"? My bet is "hd0,1" Then you should type..... linux (hd0,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro initrd (hd0,1)/initrd.img boot *note* the (hd0,1) not (hd1,1). If you get "hd1,1", then type linux (hd1,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb1 ro initrd (hd1,1)/initrd.img boot *note* the *sdb1* but never (hd1,x) sdbx (hdx,1) sdax never have an "x" in the above Repeat...if output is 'hd0,1' linux (hd0,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro initrd (hd0,1)/initrd.img boot Good luck - Goh Lip ps: sorry about the windows comment, it's more confusing than helpful. also I'll be sleeping soon, I know it's saturday. I mean friday. saturday here. -- Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate. From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Fri May 7 19:26:48 2010 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 19:26:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: wireless connection problems In-Reply-To: <201005071037.29003.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <1160629161.27573681273260408873.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bruce Marshall" >To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Sent: Friday, May 7, 2010 10:37:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >Subject: Re: wireless connection problems > >On Thursday, May 06, 2010, pkaplan1 wrote: >> I used wicd under Karmic and this seems to be a total bust under >> Lucid. It rejects all attempts to connect, telling me that my password >> is incorrect (which it isn't). >> >> Have solutions to either network manager been posted? >> Paul > >I have NEVER gotten kmanager to connect in the last 3 kubuntu releases and >always have to resort to a wired connection in order to install wicd. > >And wicd has always worked well until lucid. > >The problem?? Normally when you install wicd, it removes network manager >and everything works well. For lucid, NM is NOT removed and this causes >problems with wpa-supplicant having two copies, one for NM and the other for >wicd. > >The answer?? Remove NM like it should have been removed. Wicd will work >fine after a reboot or shutdown of the running NM. I did this (or so I thought). What packages need to be removed before installing wicd? How do I remove the duplicates of wpa-supplicant? Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g.lip at gmx.com Fri May 7 20:05:21 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 04:05:21 +0800 Subject: Fwd: Re: grub rescue In-Reply-To: <4BE467FC.9010307@gmx.com> References: <20100507193230.83226ieqm6g4n8g0@www.ehu.es> <4BE45240.2000708@gmx.com> <201005072101.35926.javier.gardeazabal@ehu.es> <4BE467FC.9010307@gmx.com> Message-ID: <4BE47281.6030003@gmx.com> On 05/08/2010 03:20 AM, Goh Lip wrote: Javier, since I am logging off soon for a few hours, and in case you do not have much success,(likely, sorry), I am writing to you separately and not to confuse you with your main aim of booting up. Your fdisk output do not look 'normal'. > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 * 1 17119 137508336 83 Linux > /dev/sda2 17120 17849 5863725 5 Extended > /dev/sda5 17120 17849 5863693+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris > A very small extended partition and missing sda3 and sda4, presumably logical partitions. I would highly recommend you reinstall your kubuntu; *but before that* please "redo" your partitioning. Download "gparted", google for it please, and burn to a cd. Boot up the gparted cd and create partitions and a swap. I suggest, and you don't have to follow this... 1 partition of 20 Gb for kubuntu 1 partition of 20 Gb for other (40 Gb if windows) I partition of 100 Gb for your data 1 swap of 2 Gb If you need help, others will help you too I estimate I'll log on after 0500hrs gmt saturday Good luck, Javier and good night.(morning) - Goh Lip -- From errol at tzora.co.il Fri May 7 20:25:27 2010 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 23:25:27 +0300 Subject: openoffice.org - presentation problem In-Reply-To: <4BE42DFB.5000202@iinet.net.au> References: <4BE400D1.60209@tzora.co.il> <4BE403E4.1050302@iinet.net.au> <4BE41C3D.2080302@tzora.co.il> <4BE42DFB.5000202@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4BE47737.4080806@tzora.co.il> > which monitor do you have and is it/they setup correctly in Kubuntu? I > mean, does Kubuntu show correctly the monitor it detected on > installation and it refresh rate and resolution? > > This is the tip that solved the problem for me. I played around with my screen resolution and that eventually solved the problem for me. I still have the #173 driver and maybe with the site you posted below I will get that changed. But now at least I can see a slide show. Thanks Basil! > Have you looked here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video ? > > Re the #195 driver, in Ubuntu there is an option which checks if the > nvidia driver is installed and then, if not, gives you the option to > install a driver - but it doesn't show that the latest driver is #195; > however, one can see what the driver is by looking in the Synaptic > Package Manager. In Kubuntu/KDE you should be able to see same by > looking in the Software Manager -and there you should also be able to > select it for installation. But here I have to make an additional > comment: in my Ubuntu Lucid I have a repo selected in the Sources which > may be have given me the #195 driver, but the driver which actually > comes with the release version of Lucid could be #193. In case, > therefore, you may find that you only have the choice of installing > #193. (All clear as mud? :-) ) > > BC > > > From wayward4now at gmail.com Sat May 8 00:45:52 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 20:45:52 -0400 Subject: openoffice.org - presentation problem In-Reply-To: <4BE41C3D.2080302@tzora.co.il> References: <4BE400D1.60209@tzora.co.il> <4BE403E4.1050302@iinet.net.au> <4BE41C3D.2080302@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <1273279552.3096.17.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 16:57 +0300, Errol Sapir wrote: > On 05/07/2010 03:13 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > > On 07/05/10 22:00, Errol Sapir wrote: > > > >> I hope I can provide enough of the correct info for somebody to be able > >> to help me. I run the 32 bit Lucid on two different but similar > >> computers. I use open office 3.2 on both (they both have "oracle" > >> written on the logo when any open office program is started). They were > >> installed by default when installing Kubuntu. > >> Both computers have an AMD 64 bit CPU. The one at home has the Athlone > >> 64 bit 3500 CPU, 2 giga memory and the GEForce 6600 256MB OB graphics > >> card. The computer at work has the 64 bit 3500+ CPU with 1 giga memory > >> and the GEForce 5200 (not OB) 128 MB graphics card. Both graphics cards > >> use the NVidia 173.14.22 driver. > >> Now for the problem: On the computer at home (theoretically the > >> "stronger" computer) I am unable to see any slide show using > >> "presentation". I doesn't matter if the presentation was made in pps or > >> opt format. The minute I try to see it as a slide show, the screen > >> "freezes". The first slide comes up and "breaks up" on the screen and > >> nothing further can be done. The only way out of all this is to press > >> the escape button and the the program "releases" the computer for use. > >> On the computer at work (the "weaker" one) there is no problem. > >> In writing this thread, I tried out two other programs I use which have > >> a slide show option (digikam& showfoto). To my surprise , they have the > >> same problem - unable to show a slide show without "freezing". I don't > >> have a problem seeing a moving graphic program, whether it's youtube, a > >> DVD movie or whatever. > >> My conclusion is that it's a graphic configuration problem. Does this > >> sound right? Help in any direction will be appreciated. > >> Errol > >> > >> > >> > > The 6600 card (I am using one right now) works with the latest #195 > > driver from nVidia; the 5200 will not work with anything above the > > legacy #173 driver. > > > > The real question here is: while you may have these drivers installed, > > do you have them active? That is, are the drivers actually being loaded > > or do you still have the default nv driver being loaded? For example, > > are you able to use compiz? If not then the 'proper' nVidia driver(s) > > are not being used. (Another way to find out is to run "glxgears" from > > the command line and if it doesn't run then the driver(s) are not > > installed.) > > > > BC > > > > > > > When trying glxgears I got the message that "glxgears" is not installed > so I did: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils and ran glxgears. The gears > then "ran" which shows that my drivers are activated. Despite that I got > the following message: > errol-linux:~$ glxgears > Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be > approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. > 10040 frames in 5.0 seconds > 9241 frames in 5.0 seconds > XIO: fatal IO error 22 (Invalid argument) on X server ":0.0" > after 42 requests (42 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > > I am trying to the #195 driver and install that but the only options > offered to me are up to the #173. The #173 is the one you want for a 5200. It may be old, but it's still a goodie. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Sat May 8 00:57:18 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 20:57:18 -0400 Subject: How can I get X to work on older, wierd netbooks In-Reply-To: <20100507191016.GA29134@metron.com> References: <20100507191016.GA29134@metron.com> Message-ID: <1273280238.3096.19.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 12:10 -0700, Lou Katz wrote: > I have an older Kohjinsha netbook with an AMD Geode processor that reports > Geode LX Video. The 10.04 Xubuntu CD shows up just fine with the Xubuntu logo > and while booting, shows the mouse-in-the-moon graphics logo. Once booted, > I have a blank screen. X is running and I can get to the command line screens > (Ctrl-Alt-F1,F2, etc). I would be happy for now if I could just coax X to > use whatever graphics mode was used during booting. Any hints or pointers??? > -- Try using vesa in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat May 8 01:11:48 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 11:11:48 +1000 Subject: openoffice.org - presentation problem In-Reply-To: <4BE47737.4080806@tzora.co.il> References: <4BE400D1.60209@tzora.co.il> <4BE403E4.1050302@iinet.net.au> <4BE41C3D.2080302@tzora.co.il> <4BE42DFB.5000202@iinet.net.au> <4BE47737.4080806@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4BE4BA54.7000400@iinet.net.au> On 08/05/10 06:25, Errol Sapir wrote: > >> which monitor do you have and is it/they setup correctly in Kubuntu? I >> mean, does Kubuntu show correctly the monitor it detected on >> installation and it refresh rate and resolution? >> >> >> > This is the tip that solved the problem for me. I played around with my > screen resolution and that eventually solved the problem for me. I still > have the #173 driver and maybe with the site you posted below I will get > that changed. But now at least I can see a slide show. Thanks Basil! > Glad to hear that you now have a slideshow! Another useful URL to have bookmarked is: https://launchpad.net/ which I was given when I first stepped up to Ubuntu last month. BC -- "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo Galilei From errol at tzora.co.il Sat May 8 03:30:25 2010 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 06:30:25 +0300 Subject: openoffice.org - presentation problem In-Reply-To: <1273279552.3096.17.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <4BE400D1.60209@tzora.co.il> <4BE403E4.1050302@iinet.net.au> <4BE41C3D.2080302@tzora.co.il> <1273279552.3096.17.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <4BE4DAD1.9090401@tzora.co.il> On 05/08/2010 03:45 AM, Ric Moore wrote: > > The #173 is the one you want for a 5200. It may be old, but it's still a > goodie. :) Ric > > > > Ric I have the 6600 card. Should I still stick with the #173 or try and find the #195? From wayward4now at gmail.com Sat May 8 07:01:11 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 03:01:11 -0400 Subject: openoffice.org - presentation problem In-Reply-To: <4BE4DAD1.9090401@tzora.co.il> References: <4BE400D1.60209@tzora.co.il> <4BE403E4.1050302@iinet.net.au> <4BE41C3D.2080302@tzora.co.il> <1273279552.3096.17.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <4BE4DAD1.9090401@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <1273302071.3096.63.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 06:30 +0300, Errol Sapir wrote: > On 05/08/2010 03:45 AM, Ric Moore wrote: > > > > The #173 is the one you want for a 5200. It may be old, but it's still a > > goodie. :) Ric > > > > > > > > > Ric I have the 6600 card. Should I still stick with the #173 or try and > find the #195? Not familiar with that one... maybe someone else knows?? Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat May 8 07:42:36 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 17:42:36 +1000 Subject: openoffice.org - presentation problem In-Reply-To: <1273302071.3096.63.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <4BE400D1.60209@tzora.co.il> <4BE403E4.1050302@iinet.net.au> <4BE41C3D.2080302@tzora.co.il> <1273279552.3096.17.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <4BE4DAD1.9090401@tzora.co.il> <1273302071.3096.63.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <4BE515EC.8000203@iinet.net.au> On 08/05/10 17:01, Ric Moore wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 06:30 +0300, Errol Sapir wrote: > >> On 05/08/2010 03:45 AM, Ric Moore wrote: >> >>> The #173 is the one you want for a 5200. It may be old, but it's still a >>> goodie. :) Ric >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Ric I have the 6600 card. Should I still stick with the #173 or try and >> find the #195? >> > Not familiar with that one... maybe someone else knows?? Ric > http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-195.36.24.html -- "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo Galilei From javier.gardeazabal at ehu.es Sat May 8 09:58:46 2010 From: javier.gardeazabal at ehu.es (JAVIER GARDEAZABAL) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 11:58:46 +0200 Subject: Fwd: Re: grub rescue Message-ID: <20100508115846.11884knevd5o1mts@www.ehu.es> Goh > Now, did you get "hd1,1" or "hd0,1" from the output at > "search -f /vmlinuz"? > My bet is "hd0,1" You are right. I got "hd0,1" I typed... > > Then you should type..... > linux (hd0,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro > initrd (hd0,1)/initrd.img > boot Only that when replying I copied and pasted from your email and then placed the "1" in the wrong place. I am going to redo the partitioning and reinstall kubuntu from scratch. Thanks a lot for your help anyway. Best javier From g.lip at gmx.com Sat May 8 10:28:58 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 18:28:58 +0800 Subject: Fwd: Re: grub rescue In-Reply-To: <20100508115846.11884knevd5o1mts@www.ehu.es> References: <20100508115846.11884knevd5o1mts@www.ehu.es> Message-ID: <4BE53CEA.50802@gmx.com> On 05/08/2010 05:58 PM, JAVIER GARDEAZABAL wrote: > > Only that when replying I copied and pasted from your email and then > placed the "1" in the wrong place. > > I am going to redo the partitioning and reinstall kubuntu from scratch. > Thanks a lot for your help anyway. > Good luck, take care - Goh Lip -- From kaj at haulrich.net Sat May 8 11:22:05 2010 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 13:22:05 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. Message-ID: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> Just a note of advice: The upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - followed by re-install x3 - broke my wireless completely, wicd as well as network-manager. Everything appeared OK until I tried to connect via WPA personal. Then it kept going like this: "Bad password" (it wasn't). My network was visible enough, but no go. I tried several laptops (Medion Akoyas) with RT2860STA cards - without ever getting them to connect. (Bad password). I even tried to install Ubuntu, Uubuntu Netbook Remix, vanilla Kubuntu and Kubuntu Netbook Remix - all failed to connect. After the downgrade to karmic all is well with wicd. The downgrade procedure was as follows: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and added links to the karmic repositories for the universe group. Did a software update. (sudo apt-get update) Opened synaptic package manager Searched for wicd. Select package -> force version. Selected version 1.6.1-3. Applied the update. It downgraded successfully and resolved the relevant dependencies. I then selected package -> lock version. I edited /etc/apt/sources.list and removed the karmic entries I'd just added. BINGO: connected immediately! Regards Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 10.04 --------- From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 8 11:35:32 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 13:35:32 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <201005081335.32965.kassube@gmx.net> Kaj Haulrich wrote: > The upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - followed by re-install x3 - broke my > wireless completely, wicd as well as network-manager. Everything > appeared OK until I tried to connect via WPA personal. Then it kept > going like this: "Bad password" (it wasn't). My network was visible > enough, but no go. I tried several laptops (Medion Akoyas) with > RT2860STA cards - without ever getting them to connect. (Bad > password). I even tried to install Ubuntu, Uubuntu Netbook Remix, > vanilla Kubuntu and Kubuntu Netbook Remix - all failed to connect. Did you install wicd for all versions or did you also try to use network-manager without wicd installed? You can only have either network-manager or wicd installed. Unfortunately there is no dependency conflict in the Lucid packages, so if you install wicd you should uninstall network-manager. Nils From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sat May 8 11:43:32 2010 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 07:43:32 -0400 Subject: screen brightness under lucid In-Reply-To: <201005071525.38968.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201005062303.42155.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <201005071525.38968.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201005080743.33166.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Friday, May 07, 2010 09:25 Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > On Friday 07 May 2010, pkaplan1 wrote: > > I'm running lucid on a Thinkpad T41. Never had a display problem > > until the new install. > > > > As soon as I start KDE (not other WMs), the screen is dimmed to > > about 50% of brightness. I can brighten manually, but it's a > > PITA. > > > > Has anyone observed this or found a solution? > > My Laptop does the same thing when on battery - that's how I set it > up. Check your power management settings, they might be causing this. > > --Reinhold I checked this. PM is configured to set the screen to full brightness when on AC power (as previously). Changing these settings didn't affect the behavior. My original description is wrong, however. The behavior affects all window managers...whenever I start an X session, the screen is dimmed to about 50%. Even switching between running WMs on different virtual terminals causes the screen to dim to 50%. Does this sound like a driver problem? I'm running an ATI M7500 video card, but I didn't notice the behavior with the LiveCD?? Paul From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sat May 8 11:46:36 2010 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 07:46:36 -0400 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005081335.32965.kassube@gmx.net> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005081335.32965.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201005080746.36586.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Saturday, May 08, 2010 07:35 Nils Kassube wrote: > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > The upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - followed by re-install x3 - broke my > > wireless completely, wicd as well as network-manager. Everything > > appeared OK until I tried to connect via WPA personal. Then it kept > > going like this: "Bad password" (it wasn't). My network was visible > > enough, but no go. I tried several laptops (Medion Akoyas) with > > RT2860STA cards - without ever getting them to connect. (Bad > > password). I even tried to install Ubuntu, Uubuntu Netbook Remix, > > vanilla Kubuntu and Kubuntu Netbook Remix - all failed to connect. > > Did you install wicd for all versions or did you also try to use > network-manager without wicd installed? You can only have either > network-manager or wicd installed. Unfortunately there is no dependency > conflict in the Lucid packages, so if you install wicd you should > uninstall network-manager. > > > Nils As I discovered, you should not only remove network-manager, but you should purge it to get rid of its config files. sudo apt-get purge network-manager Then make sure that wicd is looking at the correct wireless interface (in my case wlan0 rather than eth1). Paul From kaj at haulrich.net Sat May 8 11:49:36 2010 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 13:49:36 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005081335.32965.kassube@gmx.net> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005081335.32965.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201005081349.36797.kaj@haulrich.net> On Saturday 08 May 2010 13:35:32 Nils Kassube wrote: > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > The upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - followed by re-install x3 - broke my > > wireless completely, wicd as well as network-manager. Everything > > appeared OK until I tried to connect via WPA personal. Then it kept > > going like this: "Bad password" (it wasn't). My network was visible > > enough, but no go. I tried several laptops (Medion Akoyas) with > > RT2860STA cards - without ever getting them to connect. (Bad > > password). I even tried to install Ubuntu, Uubuntu Netbook Remix, > > vanilla Kubuntu and Kubuntu Netbook Remix - all failed to connect. > > Did you install wicd for all versions or did you also try to use > network-manager without wicd installed? You can only have either > network-manager or wicd installed. Unfortunately there is no dependency > conflict in the Lucid packages, so if you install wicd you should > uninstall network-manager. Yes. I removed network-manager completely before installing wicd on all laptops (and vice-versa) - all failed with: "Bad password". It's the first time I've ever experienced an upgrade/re-install to break something important. Hence my report. Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 10.04 --------- From kaj at haulrich.net Sat May 8 11:52:51 2010 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 13:52:51 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005080746.36586.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005081335.32965.kassube@gmx.net> <201005080746.36586.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <201005081352.51760.kaj@haulrich.net> On Saturday 08 May 2010 13:46:36 pkaplan1 wrote: > On Saturday, May 08, 2010 07:35 Nils Kassube wrote: > > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > The upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - followed by re-install x3 - broke my > > > wireless completely, wicd as well as network-manager. Everything > > > appeared OK until I tried to connect via WPA personal. Then it kept > > > going like this: "Bad password" (it wasn't). My network was visible > > > enough, but no go. I tried several laptops (Medion Akoyas) with > > > RT2860STA cards - without ever getting them to connect. (Bad > > > password). I even tried to install Ubuntu, Uubuntu Netbook Remix, > > > vanilla Kubuntu and Kubuntu Netbook Remix - all failed to connect. > > > > Did you install wicd for all versions or did you also try to use > > network-manager without wicd installed? You can only have either > > network-manager or wicd installed. Unfortunately there is no dependency > > conflict in the Lucid packages, so if you install wicd you should > > uninstall network-manager. > > > > > > Nils > > As I discovered, you should not only remove network-manager, but you should > purge it to get rid of its config files. > > sudo apt-get purge network-manager > > Then make sure that wicd is looking at the correct wireless interface (in > my case wlan0 rather than eth1). Wasn't necessary in my case. The downgrading of wicd went without a hiccup, as described. Your advice seems fine, though... Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 10.04 --------- From jonorland at gmail.com Sat May 8 13:33:58 2010 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 15:33:58 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: 2010/5/8 Kaj Haulrich : > Just a note of advice: > > The upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - followed by re-install x3 - broke my wireless > completely, wicd as well as network-manager. Everything appeared OK until I > tried to connect via WPA personal. Then it kept going like this: "Bad > password" (it wasn't). It broke my wireless to. I have always had problem with my D-link G-122 USB adapter but it started to work in 9.10 after an upgrade to 4.4.2 or perhaps 4.4.3 but after upgrading to 10.04 it is broken again. I can see all networks but can't connect to it. Either nothing happens or I repeatedly got bad password/key. I have a WPA2-PSK network. As far as I understand its the WPA2 that has been the problem before and it looks like its back again. / Jonas From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat May 8 15:22:17 2010 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 11:22:17 -0400 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <201005081122.17561.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday, May 08, 2010, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > The upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - followed by re-install x3 - broke my > wireless completely, wicd as well as network-manager. Everything appeared > OK until I tried to connect via WPA personal. Then it kept going like > this: "Bad password" (it wasn't). My network was visible enough, but no > go. I tried several laptops (Medion Akoyas) with RT2860STA cards - without > ever getting them to connect. (Bad password). I even tried to install > Ubuntu, Uubuntu Netbook Remix, vanilla Kubuntu and Kubuntu Netbook Remix - > all failed to connect. As reported here yesterday, the problem you were having is that wicd AND network manager were BOTH trying to operate. A simple remove of NM would have solved the problem. The problem with both running is that there are TWO copies of wpa-supplicant running and things get really confused. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat May 8 15:24:13 2010 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 11:24:13 -0400 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005081349.36797.kaj@haulrich.net> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005081335.32965.kassube@gmx.net> <201005081349.36797.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <201005081124.13830.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday, May 08, 2010, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Yes. I removed network-manager completely before installing wicd on all > laptops (and vice-versa) - all failed with: "Bad password". It's the first > time I've ever experienced an upgrade/re-install to break something > important. Hence my report. And did you reboot after purging NM??? If not, then the wpa-supplicant that NM created was still running. ps aux wpa would show you what is running. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat May 8 15:25:16 2010 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 11:25:16 -0400 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <201005081125.16732.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday, May 08, 2010, Jonas Norlander wrote: > Either nothing happens or I repeatedly got > bad password/key. I have a WPA2-PSK network. As far as I understand > its the WPA2 that has been the problem before and it looks like its > back again. It is not a problem with WPA other than having two copies of wpa-supplcant running at the same time. From valtermura at gmail.com Sat May 8 15:39:29 2010 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 17:39:29 +0200 Subject: My experience with Kontact, Addressbook and Akonadi Message-ID: <201005081739.31240.valtermura@gmail.com> Hi all, I want to share some experience as stated in the subject, I know one of the most annoying issue are the problems with the new management of data. First of all, I put the Akonadi tray in my System tray and I start Akonadi from there. It gets me a warning regarding the outgoing messages folder not found, but I don't care, I suppose it checks in .local/share/local-mail and Kmail currently uses another path and folder (.kde/share/apps/ect, ect). The problem with the "addressbook": opening the config dialog with right click on the Akonadi tray, I went in the tab "Akonadi resource config" and "added" a new Akonadi addressbook resource pointing to .local/share/contacts for my personal contacts. Then I needed to create other addressbooks different from my personal one, so I create another "akonadi_vcarddir_resource" inside the dialog pointing to .local/share/contacts/name_of_folder_you_want, and after adding in it (I renamed it within Kaddressbook inside Kontact) from within Kmail the addresses. And again for my other addressbooks... You will find the new folders you created inside .local/share/contacts. Now Akonadi doesn't show anymore, as per my experience, the annoying error report. One more thing: I had a problem in choosing, after that, the addresses from the "To" or the "Cc" field inside a new or reply message. I resolved changing (adding) the new resources I created from System settings/Advanced/Kde Resources, activating them and setting my new Personal Contacts addressbook as default. I got also, always in the Akonadi check report, an error regarding "Resource Agents not found": I resolved it, hopefully, by adding the string: XDG_DATA_DIR="/usr/share/akonadi/agents" to the file user-dirs.dirs in .config folder (in my file that item wasn't present) all of these operations can be done as normal user and not as root, so it is very simple to work with them. Hope this was useful to somebody... Regards, -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From jonorland at gmail.com Sat May 8 16:12:11 2010 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 18:12:11 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005081125.16732.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005081125.16732.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: 2010/5/8 Bruce Marshall : > On Saturday, May 08, 2010, Jonas Norlander wrote: >>  Either nothing happens or I repeatedly got >> bad password/key. I have a WPA2-PSK network. As far as I understand >> its the WPA2 that has been the problem before and it looks like its >> back again. > > It is not a problem with WPA other than having two copies of wpa-supplcant > running at the same time. > Why would it start two? I haven't installed or used Wicd and I only have one wireless network card. Anyhow started to fiddling some more with it. Ended up removing network-manager-kde and installed plasma-widget-networkmanagement and manage to get it to work. I had to manually add my wireless network in "Manage connections" for it to work. I'm not sure why I'm just happy it works again. / Jonas From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat May 8 16:54:23 2010 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 12:54:23 -0400 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005081125.16732.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201005081254.23847.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday, May 08, 2010, Jonas Norlander wrote: > Why would it start two? I haven't installed or used Wicd and I only > have one wireless network card. Then there is a problem with NM in this regard. I have NEVER gotten NM to work on a wireless with a fresh install for the past 4 releases. I always have to resort to a wired connection to get anything done and the first thing I do is install wicd. Normally, this has uninstalled NM but with lucid this didn't happen. Thus, two copies of WPA. From kaj at haulrich.net Sat May 8 17:52:32 2010 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:52:32 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005081124.13830.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005081349.36797.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005081124.13830.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201005081952.32952.kaj@haulrich.net> On Saturday 08 May 2010 17:24:13 Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Saturday, May 08, 2010, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Yes. I removed network-manager completely before installing wicd on all > > laptops (and vice-versa) - all failed with: "Bad password". It's the > > first time I've ever experienced an upgrade/re-install to break > > something important. Hence my report. > > And did you reboot after purging NM??? If not, then the wpa-supplicant > that NM created was still running. > > ps aux wpa > > would show you what is running. Yes. In one of my attempts I installed wicd, then purged network-manager, rebooted and found only one instant of wpa_supplicant running. The problem went away after downgrading to the karmic version of wicd. It's definitely a lucid issue. To make sure I just installed several karmic versions of Kubuntu and Ubuntu. All connected immediately. The same procedure with all lucid versions all failed with the "Bad Password" message - regardless of network-manager or wicd. BTW, the forums are buzzing with the same problem. No solution in sight. So I'll stick with karmic. Regards Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 10.04 --------- From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat May 8 18:51:36 2010 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 14:51:36 -0400 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005081952.32952.kaj@haulrich.net> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005081124.13830.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201005081952.32952.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <201005081451.36644.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday, May 08, 2010, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > It's definitely a lucid issue. To make sure I just installed several > karmic versions of Kubuntu and Ubuntu. All connected immediately. The > same procedure with all lucid versions all failed with the "Bad Password" > message - regardless of network-manager or wicd. > > BTW, the forums are buzzing with the same problem. No solution in sight. > So I'll stick with karmic. ??? The solution is to make sure you only have ONE of the two installed. wicd OR network manager. (although I've never gotten NM to connect to a wireless) I'm running lucid on two laptops and 3 desktops, all with wicd and no problems. From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 8 21:35:02 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 23:35:02 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005080746.36586.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005081335.32965.kassube@gmx.net> <201005080746.36586.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <201005082335.02726.kassube@gmx.net> pkaplan1 wrote: > On Saturday, May 08, 2010 07:35 Nils Kassube wrote: > > Did you install wicd for all versions or did you also try to use > > network-manager without wicd installed? You can only have either > > network-manager or wicd installed. Unfortunately there is no > > dependency conflict in the Lucid packages, so if you install wicd > > you should uninstall network-manager. > > As I discovered, you should not only remove network-manager, but you > should purge it to get rid of its config files. Thanks for this interesting detail. As I always use purge to uninstall packages, I didn't notice that it might be necessary. Nils From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 8 21:40:35 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 23:40:35 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005081349.36797.kaj@haulrich.net> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005081335.32965.kassube@gmx.net> <201005081349.36797.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <201005082340.35834.kassube@gmx.net> Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Saturday 08 May 2010 13:35:32 Nils Kassube wrote: > > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > The upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - followed by re-install x3 - > > > broke my wireless completely, wicd as well as network-manager. > > > Everything appeared OK until I tried to connect via WPA > > > personal. Then it kept going like this: "Bad password" (it > > > wasn't). My network was visible enough, but no go. I tried > > > several laptops (Medion Akoyas) with RT2860STA cards - without > > > ever getting them to connect. (Bad password). I even tried to > > > install Ubuntu, Uubuntu Netbook Remix, vanilla Kubuntu and > > > Kubuntu Netbook Remix - all failed to connect. > > > > Did you install wicd for all versions or did you also try to use > > network-manager without wicd installed? You can only have either > > network-manager or wicd installed. Unfortunately there is no > > dependency conflict in the Lucid packages, so if you install wicd > > you should uninstall network-manager. > > Yes. I removed network-manager completely before installing wicd on > all laptops (and vice-versa) - all failed with: "Bad password". It's > the first time I've ever experienced an upgrade/re-install to break > something important. Hence my report. I suppose it has something to do with your RT2860STA cards then. My machines with Intel and Atheros chipsets can work with both NM and wicd. I will probably upgrade a friends Akoya laptop to 10.04 tomorrow and I will check what chipset that one uses. Nils From claydoh at midmaine.com Sun May 9 01:05:18 2010 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 21:05:18 -0400 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005082340.35834.kassube@gmx.net> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005081349.36797.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005082340.35834.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201005082105.19227.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Saturday, May 08, 2010 05:40:35 pm Nils Kassube wrote: > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On Saturday 08 May 2010 13:35:32 Nils Kassube wrote: > > > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > > The upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - followed by re-install x3 - > > > > broke my wireless completely, wicd as well as network- manager. > > > > Everything appeared OK until I tried to connect via WPA > > > > personal. Then it kept going like this: "Bad password" (it > > > > wasn't). My network was visible enough, but no go. I tried > > > > several laptops (Medion Akoyas) with RT2860STA cards - without > > > > ever getting them to connect. (Bad password). I even tried to > > > > install Ubuntu, Uubuntu Netbook Remix, vanilla Kubuntu and > > > > Kubuntu Netbook Remix - all failed to connect. > > > > > > Did you install wicd for all versions or did you also try to use > > > network-manager without wicd installed? You can only have either > > > network-manager or wicd installed. Unfortunately there is no > > > dependency conflict in the Lucid packages, so if you install wicd > > > you should uninstall network-manager. > > > > Yes. I removed network-manager completely before installing wicd on > > all laptops (and vice-versa) - all failed with: "Bad password". It's > > the first time I've ever experienced an upgrade/re-install to break > > something important. Hence my report. > > I suppose it has something to do with your RT2860STA cards then. My > machines with Intel and Atheros chipsets can work with both NM and wicd. > I will probably upgrade a friends Akoya laptop to 10.04 tomorrow and I > will check what chipset that one uses. > > > Nils https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/460323 2 different drivers seem to be duking it out for the ralink devices - my rosewill usb dongle needs this fix to work, and it works great with network manager You may want to try adding the line blacklist rt2800usb to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf clay From kaj at haulrich.net Sat May 8 22:42:20 2010 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 00:42:20 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005082340.35834.kassube@gmx.net> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005081335.32965.kassube@gmx.net> <201005081349.36797.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005082340.35834.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1273358540.3403.4.camel@kaj-laptop> On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 23:40 +0200, Nils Kassube wrote: > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On Saturday 08 May 2010 13:35:32 Nils Kassube wrote: > > > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > > The upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - followed by re-install x3 - > > > > broke my wireless completely, wicd as well as network-manager. > > > > Everything appeared OK until I tried to connect via WPA > > > > personal. Then it kept going like this: "Bad password" (it > > > > wasn't). My network was visible enough, but no go. I tried > > > > several laptops (Medion Akoyas) with RT2860STA cards - without > > > > ever getting them to connect. (Bad password). I even tried to > > > > install Ubuntu, Uubuntu Netbook Remix, vanilla Kubuntu and > > > > Kubuntu Netbook Remix - all failed to connect. > > > > > > Did you install wicd for all versions or did you also try to use > > > network-manager without wicd installed? You can only have either > > > network-manager or wicd installed. Unfortunately there is no > > > dependency conflict in the Lucid packages, so if you install wicd > > > you should uninstall network-manager. > > > > Yes. I removed network-manager completely before installing wicd on > > all laptops (and vice-versa) - all failed with: "Bad password". It's > > the first time I've ever experienced an upgrade/re-install to break > > something important. Hence my report. > > I suppose it has something to do with your RT2860STA cards then. My > machines with Intel and Atheros chipsets can work with both NM and wicd. > I will probably upgrade a friends Akoya laptop to 10.04 tomorrow and I > will check what chipset that one uses. Yes, please report back. Funny thing is that my machines all could see the network and report about encryption etc.. but then yelled: "Bad Password"... Kaj Haulrich. From jonorland at gmail.com Sun May 9 06:28:43 2010 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 08:28:43 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005081125.16732.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: 2010/5/8 Jonas Norlander : > 2010/5/8 Bruce Marshall : >> On Saturday, May 08, 2010, Jonas Norlander wrote: >>>  Either nothing happens or I repeatedly got >>> bad password/key. I have a WPA2-PSK network. As far as I understand >>> its the WPA2 that has been the problem before and it looks like its >>> back again. >> >> It is not a problem with WPA other than having two copies of wpa-supplcant >> running at the same time. >> > > Why would it start two? I haven't installed or used Wicd and I only > have one wireless network card. > > Anyhow started to fiddling some more with it. Ended up removing > network-manager-kde and installed plasma-widget-networkmanagement and > manage to get it to work. I had to manually add my wireless network in > "Manage connections" for it to work. I'm not sure why I'm just happy > it works again. > > / Jonas > Guess I spoke to soon. Booting this morning and it refuses to connect to my WPA2-PSK network. / Jonas From fatgerman at googlemail.com Sun May 9 09:16:57 2010 From: fatgerman at googlemail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 10:16:57 +0100 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <201005091016.57699.Fatgerman@googlemail.com> On Sunday 09 May 2010 07:28:43 Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2010/5/8 Jonas Norlander : > > 2010/5/8 Bruce Marshall : > >> On Saturday, May 08, 2010, Jonas Norlander wrote: > >>> Either nothing happens or I repeatedly got > >>> bad password/key. I have a WPA2-PSK network. As far as I understand > >>> its the WPA2 that has been the problem before and it looks like its > >>> back again. > >> > >> It is not a problem with WPA other than having two copies of wpa-supplcant > >> running at the same time. > >> > > > > Why would it start two? I haven't installed or used Wicd and I only > > have one wireless network card. > > > > Anyhow started to fiddling some more with it. Ended up removing > > network-manager-kde and installed plasma-widget-networkmanagement and > > manage to get it to work. I had to manually add my wireless network in > > "Manage connections" for it to work. I'm not sure why I'm just happy > > it works again. > > > > / Jonas > > > > Guess I spoke to soon. Booting this morning and it refuses to connect > to my WPA2-PSK network. > > / Jonas > > I've seen some strange things with Network Manager along those lines. My experience doesn't extend to WiFi but I've had issues with 3G connections working one day and then not working the next. I've noticed two things I did that seem to have cured it. The first, and this is partially conjecture on my part, is that I always got connection failures when I had to type in a password. I use KWallet to store all my passwords in, so what I did was to setup KWallet so that it had no password, get NM to store passwords in KWallet, and then I never have to delay things by typing in a password. Once I'd done that, I deleted the network connection and created a new one with a different name. Since I've done these two things I've had no trouble, whereas before it was failing to connect every 3rd attempt. But it certainly seems to me that once you have a connection set up with NM, doing any editing of it (including typing in passwords) is likely to cause that connection to break. I tried wicd but it doesn't do 3G connections, which is a bit rubbish. Mark From jonorland at gmail.com Sun May 9 11:44:57 2010 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 13:44:57 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005091016.57699.Fatgerman@googlemail.com> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005091016.57699.Fatgerman@googlemail.com> Message-ID: 2010/5/9 Mark Greenwood : > On Sunday 09 May 2010 07:28:43 Jonas Norlander wrote: >> 2010/5/8 Jonas Norlander : >> > 2010/5/8 Bruce Marshall : >> >> On Saturday, May 08, 2010, Jonas Norlander wrote: >> >>>  Either nothing happens or I repeatedly got >> >>> bad password/key. I have a WPA2-PSK network. As far as I understand >> >>> its the WPA2 that has been the problem before and it looks like its >> >>> back again. >> >> >> >> It is not a problem with WPA other than having two copies of wpa-supplcant >> >> running at the same time. >> >> >> > >> > Why would it start two? I haven't installed or used Wicd and I only >> > have one wireless network card. >> > >> > Anyhow started to fiddling some more with it. Ended up removing >> > network-manager-kde and installed plasma-widget-networkmanagement and >> > manage to get it to work. I had to manually add my wireless network in >> > "Manage connections" for it to work. I'm not sure why I'm just happy >> > it works again. >> > >> > / Jonas >> > >> >> Guess I spoke to soon. Booting this morning and it refuses to connect >> to my WPA2-PSK network. >> >> / Jonas >> >> > I've seen some strange things with Network Manager along those lines. My experience doesn't extend to WiFi but I've had issues with 3G connections working one day and then not working the next. I've noticed two things I did that seem to have cured it. > > The first, and this is partially conjecture on my part, is that I always got connection failures when I had to type in a password. I use KWallet to store all my passwords in, so what I did was to setup KWallet so that it had no password, get NM to store passwords in KWallet, and then I never have to delay things by typing in a password. > > Once I'd done that, I deleted the network connection and created a new one with a different name. > > Since I've done these two things I've had no trouble, whereas before it was failing to connect every 3rd attempt. But it certainly seems to me that once you have a connection set up with NM, doing any editing of it (including typing in passwords) is likely to cause that connection to break. I tried wicd but it doesn't do 3G connections, which is a bit rubbish. > > Mark Actually something in your instructions made it work. I deleted all entries related to Network manager from kwallet, made it to not prompt for password, deleted my net from NM, clicked my wifi net in NM, got a prompt to let NM open kwallet, choosed always allow, got a prompt from NM to enter the key and it connected to my net and all looks fine. Thanks for the tip, lets hope it survives a reboot. / Jonas From info at alvin.be Sun May 9 15:04:03 2010 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 17:04:03 +0200 Subject: ServerArgsLocal=-nr Message-ID: <201005091704.04192.info@alvin.be> I noticed a change in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc in the transition to Lucid. ServerArgsLocal is now '-nr' instead of '-br' What's the difference? (I'm asking because Xdmcp broke during the upgrade.) From rrumberger at web.de Sun May 9 17:05:41 2010 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 19:05:41 +0200 Subject: screen brightness under lucid In-Reply-To: <201005080743.33166.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <201005062303.42155.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <201005071525.38968.rrumberger@web.de> <201005080743.33166.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <201005091905.44316.rrumberger@web.de> On Saturday 08 May 2010, pkaplan1 wrote: > On Friday, May 07, 2010 09:25 Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > > On Friday 07 May 2010, pkaplan1 wrote: > > > I'm running lucid on a Thinkpad T41. Never had a display > > > problem until the new install. > > > > > > As soon as I start KDE (not other WMs), the screen is dimmed > > > to about 50% of brightness. I can brighten manually, but > > > it's a PITA. > > > > > > Has anyone observed this or found a solution? > > > > My Laptop does the same thing when on battery - that's how I set > > it up. Check your power management settings, they might be > > causing this. > > I checked this. PM is configured to set the screen to full > brightness when on AC power (as previously). Changing these > settings didn't affect the behavior. > > My original description is wrong, however. The behavior affects > all window managers...whenever I start an X session, the screen > is dimmed to about 50%. Even switching between running WMs on > different virtual terminals causes the screen to dim to 50%. > Does this sound like a driver problem? I'm running an ATI M7500 > video card, but I didn't notice the behavior with the LiveCD?? > Paul My Dell's BIOS has an option for screen brightness that has a similar effect. It seems to confuse whatever is responsible for setting the screen's brightness. It seems that some sort of default brightness is stored at boot time and restored whenever the screen is switched back on. I haven't found a fix for this yet, and it hasn't bothered me enough to search particularly hard... --Reinhold From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sun May 9 18:16:42 2010 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 14:16:42 -0400 Subject: screen brightness under lucid In-Reply-To: <201005091905.44316.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201005062303.42155.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <201005080743.33166.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <201005091905.44316.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201005091416.43101.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Sunday, May 09, 2010 13:05 Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > On Saturday 08 May 2010, pkaplan1 wrote: > > On Friday, May 07, 2010 09:25 Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > > > On Friday 07 May 2010, pkaplan1 wrote: > > > > I'm running lucid on a Thinkpad T41. Never had a display > > > > problem until the new install. > > > > > > > > As soon as I start KDE (not other WMs), the screen is dimmed > > > > to about 50% of brightness. I can brighten manually, but > > > > it's a PITA. > > > > > > > > Has anyone observed this or found a solution? > > > > > > My Laptop does the same thing when on battery - that's how I set > > > it up. Check your power management settings, they might be > > > causing this. > > > > I checked this. PM is configured to set the screen to full > > brightness when on AC power (as previously). Changing these > > settings didn't affect the behavior. > > > > My original description is wrong, however. The behavior affects > > all window managers...whenever I start an X session, the screen > > is dimmed to about 50%. Even switching between running WMs on > > different virtual terminals causes the screen to dim to 50%. > > Does this sound like a driver problem? I'm running an ATI M7500 > > video card, but I didn't notice the behavior with the LiveCD?? > > Paul > > My Dell's BIOS has an option for screen brightness that has a similar > effect. It seems to confuse whatever is responsible for setting the > screen's brightness. It seems that some sort of default brightness is > stored at boot time and restored whenever the screen is switched back > on. I haven't found a fix for this yet, and it hasn't bothered me > enough to search particularly hard... > > --Reinhold What kind of video card do you have, more precisely, which driver are you using. I'm leaning towards a bug in the ati driver that plays badly with the lucid kernel. Paul From kassube at gmx.net Sun May 9 19:20:12 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 21:20:12 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <1273358540.3403.4.camel@kaj-laptop> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005082340.35834.kassube@gmx.net> <1273358540.3403.4.camel@kaj-laptop> Message-ID: <201005092120.12752.kassube@gmx.net> Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 23:40 +0200, Nils Kassube wrote: > > I suppose it has something to do with your RT2860STA cards then. My > > machines with Intel and Atheros chipsets can work with both NM and > > wicd. I will probably upgrade a friends Akoya laptop to 10.04 > > tomorrow and I will check what chipset that one uses. > > Yes, please report back. Funny thing is that my machines all could > see the network and report about encryption etc.. but then yelled: > "Bad Password"... Well, that Akoya machine has an Atheros chipset and it worked with NM without a problem. We didn't try Wicd though. Nils From rrumberger at web.de Sun May 9 20:33:25 2010 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 22:33:25 +0200 Subject: screen brightness under lucid In-Reply-To: <201005091416.43101.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <201005062303.42155.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <201005091905.44316.rrumberger@web.de> <201005091416.43101.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <201005092233.27176.rrumberger@web.de> On Sunday 09 May 2010, pkaplan1 wrote: > On Sunday, May 09, 2010 13:05 Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > > On Saturday 08 May 2010, pkaplan1 wrote: > > > I checked this. PM is configured to set the screen to full > > > brightness when on AC power (as previously). Changing these > > > settings didn't affect the behavior. > > > > > > My original description is wrong, however. The behavior > > > affects all window managers...whenever I start an X session, > > > the screen is dimmed to about 50%. Even switching between > > > running WMs on different virtual terminals causes the screen > > > to dim to 50%. Does this sound like a driver problem? I'm > > > running an ATI M7500 video card, but I didn't notice the > > > behavior with the LiveCD?? Paul > > > > My Dell's BIOS has an option for screen brightness that has a > > similar effect. It seems to confuse whatever is responsible for > > setting the screen's brightness. It seems that some sort of > > default brightness is stored at boot time and restored whenever > > the screen is switched back on. I haven't found a fix for this > > yet, and it hasn't bothered me enough to search particularly > > hard... > > What kind of video card do you have, more precisely, which driver > are you using. I'm leaning towards a bug in the ati driver that > plays badly with the lucid kernel. > Paul I have an intel card, but then my problem has been around since Jaunty, and the driver has more pressing issues than dimming my display every now and then. Now, if I could just figure out what's making my scroll lock behave erratically and crash my X server whenever I press enter while scroll lock is active... --Reinhold From sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk Sun May 9 23:14:41 2010 From: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk (Sid Boyce) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 00:14:41 +0100 Subject: quisk problems in Kubuntu 10.04 LTS Message-ID: <4BE741E1.2070707@blueyonder.co.uk> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/wx-2.6-gtk2-unicode/wx/_core.py", line 13535, in lambda event: event.callable(*event.args, **event.kw) ) File "quisk.py", line 2335, in OnReadSound self.screen.OnGraphData(data) # Send message to draw new data File "quisk.py", line 1062, in OnGraphData self.pane2.OnGraphData(data) File "quisk.py", line 1091, in OnGraphData self.display.OnGraphData(data[i1:i2], self.y_zero, self.y_scale) File "quisk.py", line 1012, in OnGraphData bmp = wx.BitmapFromBuffer(len(row) / 3, 1, row) AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'BitmapFromBuffer' For softrock guys mainly -------------------------- It keeps repeating the message. There is no graph data, graph data shows up in WFall, but no waterfall. I also have to explicitly kill usbsoftrock and quisk. I don't know if this is unintentional omission or a feature of 10.04. 73 ... Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon May 10 06:34:13 2010 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 08:34:13 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <201005092120.12752.kassube@gmx.net> References: <201005081322.05435.kaj@haulrich.net> <201005082340.35834.kassube@gmx.net> <1273358540.3403.4.camel@kaj-laptop> <201005092120.12752.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Kaj Haulrich wrote: >> On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 23:40 +0200, Nils Kassube wrote: >> > I suppose it has something to do with your RT2860STA cards then. My >> > machines with Intel and Atheros chipsets can work with both NM and >> > wicd. I will probably upgrade a friends Akoya laptop to 10.04 >> > tomorrow and I will check what chipset that one uses. >> >> Yes, please report back. Funny thing is that my machines all could >> see the network and report about encryption etc.. but then yelled: >> "Bad Password"... I just fixed this problem on my machine. I had 9.10 installed with wicd. When I upgraded to 10.04 in installed the other wifi networkmanager on top of wicd and they fought and gave me this error. I uninstalled the other and now all is fine. -- Douglas E Knapp Massagen Arbeit in Gelsenkirchen Buer http://bespin.org/~douglas/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon May 10 06:36:19 2010 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 08:36:19 +0200 Subject: Bad booking on upgraded 10.4 Message-ID: I just upgraded to 10.4. It often hangs during boot. I think grub is throughingsome error but where is its log? I went though the logs I could find and found this error: May 10 07:30:16 frog /etc/init.d/mysql[1406]: 0 processes alive and '/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping' resulted in May 10 07:30:16 frog /etc/init.d/mysql[1406]: #007/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed May 10 07:30:16 frog /etc/init.d/mysql[1406]: error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)' May 10 07:30:16 frog /etc/init.d/mysql[1406]: Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists! May 10 07:30:16 frog /etc/init.d/mysql[1406]: How do I fix that? What software should I use for the log viewer? How should I go from here? Thanks. -- Douglas E Knapp Massagen Arbeit in Gelsenkirchen Buer http://bespin.org/~douglas/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Mon May 10 11:55:26 2010 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 14:55:26 +0300 Subject: virtuoso-t Message-ID: <4BE7F42E.2020201@prayingforisrael.net> I've been a happy camper with my upgrade to 10.04 but today I, for the first time, inserted my memory card from my camera and open it in Dolphin and suddenly all my [11] desktops have an icon of Dolphin and the CPU goes crazy! I had to kill virtuoso-t to get things behaving properly again. What gives? Nigel From ubuntu-ml at rwz.de Mon May 10 12:47:38 2010 From: ubuntu-ml at rwz.de (Jens Strohschnitter) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 14:47:38 +0200 Subject: Grouping programs in the taskbar In-Reply-To: <201005061742.50719.pwhite@bluewin.ch> References: <20100503160217.08e8932c@strohsje.rhg.de> <20100505080551.1451eebe@strohsje.rhg.de> <201005061742.50719.pwhite@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <20100510144738.0793c196@strohsje.rhg.de> On Thu, 6 May 2010 17:42:50 +0200 Perry wrote: > Le Wednesday 05 May 2010 08.05:51 Jens Strohschnitter, vous avez écrit (you > wrote) : > > when I klick on a blank area and open taskbar-settings, I have a new > > Taskbar where I can select further settings. But there is no option to > > select grouping > > > At this point, can't you just drag&drop to reorder your programs and use the > spacer element? Is Lucid so different from Karmic? > > Ah, now found it. Works fine --- THX -- kind regards, Jens Strohschnitter ----------------------------------------- LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX Set the controls for the heart of the sun LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX ----------------------------------------- From linux at ericelliott.us Mon May 10 13:18:11 2010 From: linux at ericelliott.us (Eric Lee Elliott) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 08:18:11 -0500 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BE80793.80207@ericelliott.us> WIFI & 3G connections had been trouble for me for last 3 years. 10.04 has versions of NM & ModemManager that are good for me. Wallet seems to be the cause of NetworkManager (NM) problems. NM does well for me in 4 computers after wallet is disabled. With wallet enabled, at best I must enter password 3 times to start computer & get email. At worst many passwords are required to maybe get & keep connection. To make it work, disable wallet & kill NM. When NM is started again & password is entered for each connection once, it just works. Next boot has all connections working again without demanding any passwords for WIFI or 3G. NM works with Ralink, Broadcom, Atheros & Intel WIFI hardwares. NM works with Sierra 875U 3G modem. NM works with multiple WIFI connections, even when connected or removed after first WIFI is up. Each computer got Kubu 10.04 installed to formatted partition, no upgrades here. Eric From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon May 10 14:19:02 2010 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 16:19:02 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. In-Reply-To: <4BE80793.80207@ericelliott.us> References: <4BE80793.80207@ericelliott.us> Message-ID: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Eric Lee Elliott wrote: > WIFI & 3G connections had been trouble for me for last 3 years.  10.04 > has versions of NM & ModemManager that are good for me. > > Wallet seems to be the cause of NetworkManager (NM) problems.  NM does > well for me in 4 computers after wallet is disabled.  With wallet > enabled, at best I must enter password 3 times to start computer & get > email.  At worst many passwords are required to maybe get & keep connection. > > To make it work, disable wallet & kill NM.  When NM is started again & > password is entered for each connection once, it just works.  Next boot > has all connections working again without demanding any passwords for > WIFI or 3G.  NM works with Ralink, Broadcom, Atheros & Intel WIFI > hardwares.   NM works with Sierra 875U 3G modem.  NM works with multiple > WIFI connections, even when connected or removed after first WIFI is up. > > Each computer got Kubu 10.04 installed to formatted partition, no > upgrades here. > > Eric That sounds like something that needs to be submitted as a bug report! -- Douglas E Knapp Massagen Arbeit in Gelsenkirchen Buer http://bespin.org/~douglas/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From JonPiper at cox.net Mon May 10 16:54:36 2010 From: JonPiper at cox.net (Jon Piper) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 12:54:36 -0400 Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 64, Issue 18 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BE83A4C.7000800@cox.net> My wired and wireless problems are fixed- it took drastic measures. I have been dealing with connection problems on my laptop since Kubuntu 9.04 and 9.10 (no problem with 8.04, 7.10, 7.04, & 6.10) my ethernet and wireless disappeared and fixed by reinstalling. They both worked for a short time with 10.04 then disappeared. I completely removed nw-manager and installed "wicd" which fixed my ethernet. Then the da*n keyring blocked wireless. I even changed the key in my router then attempted to change the key in Kubuntu - the old key stayed and refused to record my new key -- sooo fixed it. The fix worked for both Kubuntu and Gnome Desktops. This is how I fixed the problem. I fired up Synaptic Package Manager and reinstalled wicd, wpasupplicant, kwalletmanager, laptop-detect, and wireless tools (Note: there may have been some others that I forgot about)-- then, I rebooted. It has worked like a charm for two days -- your mileage may very. I hope this helps someone. It worked for me. Blessing, Jon Piper *************** On 05/09/2010 03:20 PM, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Send kubuntu-users mailing list submissions to > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kubuntu-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. (Clay Weber) > 2. Re: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. (Kaj Haulrich) > 3. Re: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. (Jonas Norlander) > 4. Re: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. (Mark Greenwood) > 5. Re: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. (Jonas Norlander) > 6. ServerArgsLocal=-nr (Alvin) > 7. Re: screen brightness under lucid (Reinhold Rumberger) > 8. Re: screen brightness under lucid (pkaplan1) > 9. Re: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. (Nils Kassube) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 21:05:18 -0400 > From: Clay Weber > Subject: Re: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Message-ID:<201005082105.19227.claydoh at midmaine.com> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Saturday, May 08, 2010 05:40:35 pm Nils Kassube wrote: > >> Kaj Haulrich wrote: >> >>> On Saturday 08 May 2010 13:35:32 Nils Kassube wrote: >>> >>>> Kaj Haulrich wrote: >>>> >>>>> The upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - followed by re-install x3 - >>>>> broke my wireless completely, wicd as well as network- >>>>> > manager. > >>>>> Everything appeared OK until I tried to connect via WPA >>>>> personal. Then it kept going like this: "Bad password" (it >>>>> wasn't). My network was visible enough, but no go. I tried >>>>> several laptops (Medion Akoyas) with RT2860STA cards - >>>>> > without > >>>>> ever getting them to connect. (Bad password). I even tried >>>>> > to > >>>>> install Ubuntu, Uubuntu Netbook Remix, vanilla Kubuntu and >>>>> Kubuntu Netbook Remix - all failed to connect. >>>>> >>>> Did you install wicd for all versions or did you also try to use >>>> network-manager without wicd installed? You can only have >>>> > either > >>>> network-manager or wicd installed. Unfortunately there is no >>>> dependency conflict in the Lucid packages, so if you install >>>> > wicd > >>>> you should uninstall network-manager. >>>> >>> Yes. I removed network-manager completely before installing wicd >>> > on > >>> all laptops (and vice-versa) - all failed with: "Bad password". It's >>> the first time I've ever experienced an upgrade/re-install to break >>> something important. Hence my report. >>> >> I suppose it has something to do with your RT2860STA cards then. >> > My > >> machines with Intel and Atheros chipsets can work with both NM >> > and wicd. > >> I will probably upgrade a friends Akoya laptop to 10.04 tomorrow >> > and I > >> will check what chipset that one uses. >> >> >> Nils >> > https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/460323 > > 2 different drivers seem to be duking it out for the ralink devices - my > rosewill usb dongle needs this fix to work, and it works great with > network manager > > You may want to try adding the line > blacklist rt2800usb > to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > > clay > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 00:42:20 +0200 > From: Kaj Haulrich > Subject: Re: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Message-ID:<1273358540.3403.4.camel at kaj-laptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 23:40 +0200, Nils Kassube wrote: > >> Kaj Haulrich wrote: >> >>> On Saturday 08 May 2010 13:35:32 Nils Kassube wrote: >>> >>>> Kaj Haulrich wrote: >>>> >>>>> The upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - followed by re-install x3 - >>>>> broke my wireless completely, wicd as well as network-manager. >>>>> Everything appeared OK until I tried to connect via WPA >>>>> personal. Then it kept going like this: "Bad password" (it >>>>> wasn't). My network was visible enough, but no go. I tried >>>>> several laptops (Medion Akoyas) with RT2860STA cards - without >>>>> ever getting them to connect. (Bad password). I even tried to >>>>> install Ubuntu, Uubuntu Netbook Remix, vanilla Kubuntu and >>>>> Kubuntu Netbook Remix - all failed to connect. >>>>> >>>> Did you install wicd for all versions or did you also try to use >>>> network-manager without wicd installed? You can only have either >>>> network-manager or wicd installed. Unfortunately there is no >>>> dependency conflict in the Lucid packages, so if you install wicd >>>> you should uninstall network-manager. >>>> >>> Yes. I removed network-manager completely before installing wicd on >>> all laptops (and vice-versa) - all failed with: "Bad password". It's >>> the first time I've ever experienced an upgrade/re-install to break >>> something important. Hence my report. >>> >> I suppose it has something to do with your RT2860STA cards then. My >> machines with Intel and Atheros chipsets can work with both NM and wicd. >> I will probably upgrade a friends Akoya laptop to 10.04 tomorrow and I >> will check what chipset that one uses. >> > Yes, please report back. Funny thing is that my machines all could see > the network and report about encryption etc.. but then yelled: "Bad > Password"... > > Kaj Haulrich. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 08:28:43 +0200 > From: Jonas Norlander > Subject: Re: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > 2010/5/8 Jonas Norlander: > >> 2010/5/8 Bruce Marshall: >> >>> On Saturday, May 08, 2010, Jonas Norlander wrote: >>> >>>> ?Either nothing happens or I repeatedly got >>>> bad password/key. I have a WPA2-PSK network. As far as I understand >>>> its the WPA2 that has been the problem before and it looks like its >>>> back again. >>>> >>> It is not a problem with WPA other than having two copies of wpa-supplcant >>> running at the same time. >>> >>> >> Why would it start two? I haven't installed or used Wicd and I only >> have one wireless network card. >> >> Anyhow started to fiddling some more with it. Ended up removing >> network-manager-kde and installed plasma-widget-networkmanagement and >> manage to get it to work. I had to manually add my wireless network in >> "Manage connections" for it to work. I'm not sure why I'm just happy >> it works again. >> >> / Jonas >> >> > Guess I spoke to soon. Booting this morning and it refuses to connect > to my WPA2-PSK network. > > / Jonas > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 10:16:57 +0100 > From: Mark Greenwood > Subject: Re: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Message-ID:<201005091016.57699.Fatgerman at googlemail.com> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Sunday 09 May 2010 07:28:43 Jonas Norlander wrote: > >> 2010/5/8 Jonas Norlander: >> >>> 2010/5/8 Bruce Marshall: >>> >>>> On Saturday, May 08, 2010, Jonas Norlander wrote: >>>> >>>>> Either nothing happens or I repeatedly got >>>>> bad password/key. I have a WPA2-PSK network. As far as I understand >>>>> its the WPA2 that has been the problem before and it looks like its >>>>> back again. >>>>> >>>> It is not a problem with WPA other than having two copies of wpa-supplcant >>>> running at the same time. >>>> >>>> >>> Why would it start two? I haven't installed or used Wicd and I only >>> have one wireless network card. >>> >>> Anyhow started to fiddling some more with it. Ended up removing >>> network-manager-kde and installed plasma-widget-networkmanagement and >>> manage to get it to work. I had to manually add my wireless network in >>> "Manage connections" for it to work. I'm not sure why I'm just happy >>> it works again. >>> >>> / Jonas >>> >>> >> Guess I spoke to soon. Booting this morning and it refuses to connect >> to my WPA2-PSK network. >> >> / Jonas >> >> >> > I've seen some strange things with Network Manager along those lines. My experience doesn't extend to WiFi but I've had issues with 3G connections working one day and then not working the next. I've noticed two things I did that seem to have cured it. > > The first, and this is partially conjecture on my part, is that I always got connection failures when I had to type in a password. I use KWallet to store all my passwords in, so what I did was to setup KWallet so that it had no password, get NM to store passwords in KWallet, and then I never have to delay things by typing in a password. > > Once I'd done that, I deleted the network connection and created a new one with a different name. > > Since I've done these two things I've had no trouble, whereas before it was failing to connect every 3rd attempt. But it certainly seems to me that once you have a connection set up with NM, doing any editing of it (including typing in passwords) is likely to cause that connection to break. I tried wicd but it doesn't do 3G connections, which is a bit rubbish. > > Mark > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 13:44:57 +0200 > From: Jonas Norlander > Subject: Re: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > 2010/5/9 Mark Greenwood: > >> On Sunday 09 May 2010 07:28:43 Jonas Norlander wrote: >> >>> 2010/5/8 Jonas Norlander: >>> >>>> 2010/5/8 Bruce Marshall: >>>> >>>>> On Saturday, May 08, 2010, Jonas Norlander wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ?Either nothing happens or I repeatedly got >>>>>> bad password/key. I have a WPA2-PSK network. As far as I understand >>>>>> its the WPA2 that has been the problem before and it looks like its >>>>>> back again. >>>>>> >>>>> It is not a problem with WPA other than having two copies of wpa-supplcant >>>>> running at the same time. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Why would it start two? I haven't installed or used Wicd and I only >>>> have one wireless network card. >>>> >>>> Anyhow started to fiddling some more with it. Ended up removing >>>> network-manager-kde and installed plasma-widget-networkmanagement and >>>> manage to get it to work. I had to manually add my wireless network in >>>> "Manage connections" for it to work. I'm not sure why I'm just happy >>>> it works again. >>>> >>>> / Jonas >>>> >>>> >>> Guess I spoke to soon. Booting this morning and it refuses to connect >>> to my WPA2-PSK network. >>> >>> / Jonas >>> >>> >>> >> I've seen some strange things with Network Manager along those lines. My experience doesn't extend to WiFi but I've had issues with 3G connections working one day and then not working the next. I've noticed two things I did that seem to have cured it. >> >> The first, and this is partially conjecture on my part, is that I always got connection failures when I had to type in a password. I use KWallet to store all my passwords in, so what I did was to setup KWallet so that it had no password, get NM to store passwords in KWallet, and then I never have to delay things by typing in a password. >> >> Once I'd done that, I deleted the network connection and created a new one with a different name. >> >> Since I've done these two things I've had no trouble, whereas before it was failing to connect every 3rd attempt. But it certainly seems to me that once you have a connection set up with NM, doing any editing of it (including typing in passwords) is likely to cause that connection to break. I tried wicd but it doesn't do 3G connections, which is a bit rubbish. >> >> Mark >> > Actually something in your instructions made it work. I deleted all > entries related to Network manager from kwallet, made it to not prompt > for password, deleted my net from NM, clicked my wifi net in NM, got a > prompt to let NM open kwallet, choosed always allow, got a prompt from > NM to enter the key and it connected to my net and all looks fine. > > Thanks for the tip, lets hope it survives a reboot. > > / Jonas > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 17:04:03 +0200 > From: Alvin > Subject: ServerArgsLocal=-nr > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID:<201005091704.04192.info at alvin.be> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I noticed a change in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc in the transition to Lucid. > ServerArgsLocal is now '-nr' instead of '-br' > > What's the difference? > > (I'm asking because Xdmcp broke during the upgrade.) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 19:05:41 +0200 > From: Reinhold Rumberger > Subject: Re: screen brightness under lucid > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Message-ID:<201005091905.44316.rrumberger at web.de> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Saturday 08 May 2010, pkaplan1 wrote: > >> On Friday, May 07, 2010 09:25 Reinhold Rumberger wrote: >> >>> On Friday 07 May 2010, pkaplan1 wrote: >>> >>>> I'm running lucid on a Thinkpad T41. Never had a display >>>> problem until the new install. >>>> >>>> As soon as I start KDE (not other WMs), the screen is dimmed >>>> to about 50% of brightness. I can brighten manually, but >>>> it's a PITA. >>>> >>>> Has anyone observed this or found a solution? >>>> >>> My Laptop does the same thing when on battery - that's how I set >>> it up. Check your power management settings, they might be >>> causing this. >>> >> I checked this. PM is configured to set the screen to full >> brightness when on AC power (as previously). Changing these >> settings didn't affect the behavior. >> >> My original description is wrong, however. The behavior affects >> all window managers...whenever I start an X session, the screen >> is dimmed to about 50%. Even switching between running WMs on >> different virtual terminals causes the screen to dim to 50%. >> Does this sound like a driver problem? I'm running an ATI M7500 >> video card, but I didn't notice the behavior with the LiveCD?? >> Paul >> > My Dell's BIOS has an option for screen brightness that has a similar > effect. It seems to confuse whatever is responsible for setting the > screen's brightness. It seems that some sort of default brightness is > stored at boot time and restored whenever the screen is switched back > on. I haven't found a fix for this yet, and it hasn't bothered me > enough to search particularly hard... > > --Reinhold > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 14:16:42 -0400 > From: pkaplan1 > Subject: Re: screen brightness under lucid > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Message-ID:<201005091416.43101.pkaplan1 at comcast.net> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Sunday, May 09, 2010 13:05 Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > >> On Saturday 08 May 2010, pkaplan1 wrote: >> >>> On Friday, May 07, 2010 09:25 Reinhold Rumberger wrote: >>> >>>> On Friday 07 May 2010, pkaplan1 wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm running lucid on a Thinkpad T41. Never had a display >>>>> problem until the new install. >>>>> >>>>> As soon as I start KDE (not other WMs), the screen is dimmed >>>>> to about 50% of brightness. I can brighten manually, but >>>>> it's a PITA. >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone observed this or found a solution? >>>>> >>>> My Laptop does the same thing when on battery - that's how I set >>>> it up. Check your power management settings, they might be >>>> causing this. >>>> >>> I checked this. PM is configured to set the screen to full >>> brightness when on AC power (as previously). Changing these >>> settings didn't affect the behavior. >>> >>> My original description is wrong, however. The behavior affects >>> all window managers...whenever I start an X session, the screen >>> is dimmed to about 50%. Even switching between running WMs on >>> different virtual terminals causes the screen to dim to 50%. >>> Does this sound like a driver problem? I'm running an ATI M7500 >>> video card, but I didn't notice the behavior with the LiveCD?? >>> Paul >>> >> My Dell's BIOS has an option for screen brightness that has a similar >> effect. It seems to confuse whatever is responsible for setting the >> screen's brightness. It seems that some sort of default brightness is >> stored at boot time and restored whenever the screen is switched back >> on. I haven't found a fix for this yet, and it hasn't bothered me >> enough to search particularly hard... >> >> --Reinhold >> > What kind of video card do you have, more precisely, which driver are you > using. I'm leaning towards a bug in the ati driver that plays badly with the > lucid kernel. > Paul > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 21:20:12 +0200 > From: Nils Kassube > Subject: Re: Upgrade to 10.04 broke wireless. > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID:<201005092120.12752.kassube at gmx.net> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > >> On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 23:40 +0200, Nils Kassube wrote: >> >>> I suppose it has something to do with your RT2860STA cards then. My >>> machines with Intel and Atheros chipsets can work with both NM and >>> wicd. I will probably upgrade a friends Akoya laptop to 10.04 >>> tomorrow and I will check what chipset that one uses. >>> >> Yes, please report back. Funny thing is that my machines all could >> see the network and report about encryption etc.. but then yelled: >> "Bad Password"... >> > Well, that Akoya machine has an Atheros chipset and it worked with NM > without a problem. We didn't try Wicd though. > > > Nils > > > > ------------------------------ > > From sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk Mon May 10 22:46:20 2010 From: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk (Sid Boyce) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 23:46:20 +0100 Subject: quisk problems in Kubuntu 10.04 LTS In-Reply-To: <4BE741E1.2070707@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <4BE741E1.2070707@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <4BE88CBC.4020200@blueyonder.co.uk> On 10/05/10 00:14, Sid Boyce wrote: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File > "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/wx-2.6-gtk2-unicode/wx/_core.py", line > 13535, in > lambda event: event.callable(*event.args, **event.kw) ) > File "quisk.py", line 2335, in OnReadSound > self.screen.OnGraphData(data) # Send message > to draw new data > File "quisk.py", line 1062, in OnGraphData > self.pane2.OnGraphData(data) > File "quisk.py", line 1091, in OnGraphData > self.display.OnGraphData(data[i1:i2], self.y_zero, self.y_scale) > File "quisk.py", line 1012, in OnGraphData > bmp = wx.BitmapFromBuffer(len(row) / 3, 1, row) > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'BitmapFromBuffer' > > For softrock guys mainly > -------------------------- > It keeps repeating the message. There is no graph data, graph data shows > up in WFall, but no waterfall. I also have to explicitly kill > usbsoftrock and quisk. > > I don't know if this is unintentional omission or a feature of 10.04. > 73 ... Sid. Fix supplied by Alex. alex at laptop-alex:/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages$ sudo cp wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode.pth wx-2.6-gtk2-unicode.pth Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks From jcunning at cunning.ods.org Wed May 12 19:25:55 2010 From: jcunning at cunning.ods.org (Jim Cunning) Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 12:25:55 -0700 Subject: Unable to remotely login to KDE with VNC Message-ID: <201005121226.07265.jcunning@cunning.ods.org> I have a workstation at my office that I cannot login to using a local tightVNC and x11vnc at the remote system. When I enter the password, my vncviewer window closes and after reconnecting to the remote system, the login screen is still present. I know it's not a password issue, because this only happens when the correct password is entered. If I'm already logged-in, there's no problem, even if the session was locked and required entering a password. I'm aware that gdm has a parameter (KillInitClients=false) to disable this behavior, but I also saw somewhere that KDE (kdm) does not use this. I'm confused by this, because gdm is the process displaying the login splash screen. Putting "KillInitClients=false" into /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and /etc/gdm/custom.conf has no effect. Anyone know where/what kdm needs to disable this behavior? -- Jim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From rrumberger at web.de Thu May 13 01:32:14 2010 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 03:32:14 +0200 Subject: Unable to remotely login to KDE with VNC In-Reply-To: <201005121226.07265.jcunning@cunning.ods.org> References: <201005121226.07265.jcunning@cunning.ods.org> Message-ID: <201005130332.15060.rrumberger@web.de> On Wednesday 12 May 2010, Jim Cunning wrote: > I have a workstation at my office that I cannot login to using a > local tightVNC and x11vnc at the remote system. When I enter the > password, my vncviewer window closes and after reconnecting to > the remote system, the login screen is still present. I know > it's not a password issue, because this only happens when the > correct password is entered. If I'm already logged-in, there's > no problem, even if the session was locked and required entering > a password. > > I'm aware that gdm has a parameter (KillInitClients=false) to > disable this behavior, but I also saw somewhere that KDE (kdm) > does not use this. I'm confused by this, because gdm is the > process displaying the login splash screen. Putting > "KillInitClients=false" into /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and > /etc/gdm/custom.conf has no effect. > > Anyone know where/what kdm needs to disable this behavior? I'm a little confused now - are you using gdm or kdm? Does simply switching to the other help? I know this isn't quite what you want, but would using krfb until you get this sorted be a viable workaround? --Reinhold From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Thu May 13 05:33:36 2010 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 06:33:36 +0100 Subject: K3B problem in Lucid Lynx Message-ID: <4BEB8F30.9080100@tiscali.co.uk> Since I've upgraded to Lucid, I haven't been able to burn a DVD. I get an error from cdrecord (error 254, which is, apparently, 'unknown'). I've googled but can't find anything that helps. Despite what the report below says about bytes written, no data is written to the disk. Has anyone had a similar problem? Any ideas on how to fix it??? Debugger output: Devices ----------------------- PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.23 (/dev/sr0, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL) [DVD-ROM, DVD-R Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump] [%7] K3b::IsoImager ----------------------- mkisofs print size result: 1792448 (3670933504 bytes) System ----------------------- K3b Version: 1.91.0 KDE Version: 4.4.2 (KDE 4.4.2) QT Version: 4.6.2 Kernel: 2.6.32-22-generic Used versions ----------------------- mkisofs: 1.1.10 cdrecord: 1.1.10 cdrecord ----------------------- scsidev: '/dev/sr0' devname: '/dev/sr0' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Wodim version: 1.1.10 SCSI buffer size: 64512 Beginning DMA speed test. Set CDR_NODMATEST environment variable if device communication breaks or freezes immediately after that. TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM Driveropts: 'burnfree' Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 5 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info : 'PIONEER ' Identification : 'DVD-RW DVR-111D' Revision : '1.23' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Current: 0x0011 (DVD-R sequential recording) Profile: 0x002B (DVD+R/DL) Profile: 0x001B (DVD+R) Profile: 0x001A (DVD+RW) Profile: 0x0016 (DVD-R/DL layer jump recording) Profile: 0x0015 (DVD-R/DL sequential recording) Profile: 0x0014 (DVD-RW sequential recording) Profile: 0x0013 (DVD-RW restricted overwrite) Profile: 0x0011 (DVD-R sequential recording) (current) Profile: 0x0010 (DVD-ROM) Profile: 0x000A (CD-RW) Profile: 0x0009 (CD-R) Profile: 0x0008 (CD-ROM) Using generic SCSI-3/mmc DVD-R(W) driver (mmc_mdvd). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: PACKET SAO Drive buf size : 1605632 = 1568 KB FIFO size : 12582912 = 12288 KB Speed set to 8310 KB/s Track 01: data 3500 MB Total size: 4020 MB (398:19.30) = 1792448 sectors Lout start: 4020 MB (398:21/23) = 1792448 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 HINT: use dvd+rw-mediainfo from dvd+rw-tools for information extraction. Blocks total: 2298496 Blocks current: 2298496 Blocks remaining: 506048 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 6.0 in real force SAO mode for multi session. Last chance to quit, starting real write in 2 seconds. 1 seconds. 0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. Performing OPC... Sending CUE sheet... Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01: 0 of 3500 MB written. Track 01: 1 of 3500 MB written (fifo 93%) [buf 67%] 22.4x. Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 2A 00 00 00 02 0F 00 00 1F 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 71 00 03 FF FF 03 E0 0E 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, deferred error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk -64544 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 200s /usr/bin/wodim: A write error occured. /usr/bin/wodim: Please properly read the error message above. write track data: error after 1079296 bytes Writing time: 61.641s Average write speed 76.0x. Fixating... Fixating time: 0.018s /usr/bin/wodim: fifo had 209 puts and 18 gets. /usr/bin/wodim: fifo was 0 times empty and 1 times full, min fill was 93%. cdrecord command: ----------------------- /usr/bin/wodim -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/sr0 speed=6 -sao driveropts=burnfree -force -multi -ignsize -data -tsize=1792448s - mkisofs ----------------------- 1792448 I: -input-charset not specified, using utf-8 (detected in locale settings) 0.03% done, estimate finish Thu May 13 06:25:43 2010 0.06% done, estimate finish Thu May 13 06:25:43 2010 0.08% done, estimate finish Thu May 13 06:25:43 2010 0.11% done, estimate finish Thu May 13 06:25:43 2010 0.14% done, estimate finish Thu May 13 06:25:43 2010 0.17% done, estimate finish Thu May 13 06:35:39 2010 0.20% done, estimate finish Thu May 13 06:34:14 2010 0.22% done, estimate finish Thu May 13 06:33:09 2010 0.25% done, estimate finish Thu May 13 06:32:20 2010 0.28% done, estimate finish Thu May 13 06:31:40 2010 0.31% done, estimate finish Thu May 13 06:31:08 2010 0.34% done, estimate finish Thu May 13 06:30:40 2010 0.36% done, estimate finish Thu May 13 08:38:46 2010 mkisofs calculate size command: ----------------------- /usr/bin/genisoimage -gui -graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid LHotP 3b -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2010 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND MICHAL MALEK -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-wulfy/k3bN20111.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-wulfy/k3bU20111.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-wulfy/k3bs20111.tmp -no-cache-inodes -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 -path-list /tmp/kde-wulfy/k3br20111.tmp mkisofs command: ----------------------- /usr/bin/genisoimage -gui -graft-points -volid LHotP 3b -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2010 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND MICHAL MALEK -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-wulfy/k3by20111.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-wulfy/k3bR20111.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-wulfy/k3bg20111.tmp -no-cache-inodes -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 -path-list /tmp/kde-wulfy/k3bj20111.tmp -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu May 13 05:55:39 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 15:55:39 +1000 Subject: K3B problem in Lucid Lynx In-Reply-To: <4BEB8F30.9080100@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4BEB8F30.9080100@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <4BEB945B.1080808@iinet.net.au> On 13/05/10 15:33, Wulfy wrote: > Since I've upgraded to Lucid, I haven't been able to burn a DVD. I get > an error from cdrecord (error 254, which is, apparently, 'unknown'). > I've googled but can't find anything that helps. Despite what the report > below says about bytes written, no data is written to the disk. > > Has anyone had a similar problem? Any ideas on how to fix it??? > > Debugger output: > > Devices > ----------------------- > PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.23 (/dev/sr0, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, > No problems here at all with k3b and I am using a Pioneer 110 drive. Working very well, thank you :-) . I did have some trouble a couple of weeks ago when I had to throw out 2 DVDs which displayed the same (or close enough to it so as to be the same) error message and this was caused by a couple of bad DVD blanks - pulled the 3rd one from the spindle and all worked AOK from then on. BC -- ATTORNEY: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he doesn't know about it until the next morning? WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam? From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Thu May 13 06:36:13 2010 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:36:13 +1000 Subject: K3B problem in Lucid Lynx Message-ID: <4beb9ddd.5744.b65c6b70.e7e95f1@blackpaw.dyndns.org> On Thursday 13/05/2010 at 4:01 pm, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 13/05/10 15:33, Wulfy wrote: >> >> Since I've upgraded to Lucid, I haven't been able to burn a DVD. I get >> an error from cdrecord (error 254, which is, apparently, 'unknown'). >> I've googled but can't find anything that helps. Despite what the >> report >> below says about bytes written, no data is written to the disk. >> >> Has anyone had a similar problem? Any ideas on how to fix it??? >> >> Debugger output: >> >> Devices >> ----------------------- >> PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.23 (/dev/sr0, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, >> > No problems here at all with k3b and I am using a Pioneer 110 drive. > Working very well, thank you :-) . > > I did have some trouble a couple of weeks ago when I had to throw out > 2 > DVDs which displayed the same (or close enough to it so as to be the > same) error message and this was caused by a couple of bad DVD blanks > - > pulled the 3rd one from the spindle and all worked AOK from then on. Might be worth slowing the burn speed down. -- Lindsay Mathieson http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Thu May 13 06:48:52 2010 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 07:48:52 +0100 Subject: K3B problem in Lucid Lynx In-Reply-To: <4BEB945B.1080808@iinet.net.au> References: <4BEB8F30.9080100@tiscali.co.uk> <4BEB945B.1080808@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4BEBA0D4.1010605@tiscali.co.uk> On 13/05/10 06:55, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 13/05/10 15:33, Wulfy wrote: > >> Since I've upgraded to Lucid, I haven't been able to burn a DVD. I get >> an error from cdrecord (error 254, which is, apparently, 'unknown'). >> I've googled but can't find anything that helps. Despite what the report >> below says about bytes written, no data is written to the disk. >> >> Has anyone had a similar problem? Any ideas on how to fix it??? >> >> Debugger output: >> >> Devices >> ----------------------- >> PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.23 (/dev/sr0, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, >> >> > No problems here at all with k3b and I am using a Pioneer 110 drive. > Working very well, thank you :-) . > > I did have some trouble a couple of weeks ago when I had to throw out 2 > DVDs which displayed the same (or close enough to it so as to be the > same) error message and this was caused by a couple of bad DVD blanks - > pulled the 3rd one from the spindle and all worked AOK from then on. > > BC > > Thanks, BC. I had tried with 2 different disks and both failed. I went back and tried again and after 5 attempts, I got a burn. :@) I've had bad disks before but have never seen that error message before. I've also never had 4 disks fail in a row. Life is 'interesting'.... <:@) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Thu May 13 06:51:01 2010 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 07:51:01 +0100 Subject: K3B problem in Lucid Lynx In-Reply-To: <4beb9ddd.5744.b65c6b70.e7e95f1@blackpaw.dyndns.org> References: <4beb9ddd.5744.b65c6b70.e7e95f1@blackpaw.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4BEBA155.6030205@tiscali.co.uk> On 13/05/10 07:36, lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday 13/05/2010 at 4:01 pm, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 13/05/10 15:33, Wulfy wrote: >>> Since I've upgraded to Lucid, I haven't been able to burn a DVD. I get >>> an error from cdrecord (error 254, which is, apparently, 'unknown'). >>> I've googled but can't find anything that helps. Despite what the report >>> below says about bytes written, no data is written to the disk. >>> >>> Has anyone had a similar problem? Any ideas on how to fix it??? >>> >>> Debugger output: >>> >>> Devices >>> ----------------------- >>> PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.23 (/dev/sr0, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, >>> >> No problems here at all with k3b and I am using a Pioneer 110 drive. >> Working very well, thank you :-) . >> >> I did have some trouble a couple of weeks ago when I had to throw out 2 >> DVDs which displayed the same (or close enough to it so as to be the >> same) error message and this was caused by a couple of bad DVD blanks - >> pulled the 3rd one from the spindle and all worked AOK from then on. > > > Might be worth slowing the burn speed down. > > > > -- > Lindsay Mathieson > http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home/ > Thanks, Lindsay. I always burn at 6x as the 14x burn fails every time. I finally got a burn after trying 5 disks... dunno what's been happening. <:@) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From faptagon at gmail.com Thu May 13 07:06:50 2010 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 00:06:50 -0700 Subject: Status of Lucid??? Message-ID: I'm getting notices about the latest stable version of Lucid being available. Just how good/bad is it? Has it fixed the problems that Karmic has, like sub microscopic printing in the menuing, or on the various gadgets, and not being capable of recognizing, or otherwise dealing with Hewlett Packard printers, etc? Bill From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu May 13 07:09:31 2010 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:09:31 +0300 Subject: Status of Lucid??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 13 May 2010 10:06, Bill vance wrote: > I'm getting notices about the latest stable version of Lucid > being available. > > Just how good/bad is it?  Has it fixed the problems that > Karmic has, like sub microscopic printing in the menuing, I don't know what that is. Can you link to a bug report, or describe it. > or > on the various gadgets, Describe in detail what you are talking about. > and not being capable of recognizing, > or otherwise dealing with Hewlett Packard printers, etc? > Works fine with my HP 4255. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com From kassube at gmx.net Thu May 13 07:10:53 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 09:10:53 +0200 Subject: K3B problem in Lucid Lynx In-Reply-To: <4BEB8F30.9080100@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4BEB8F30.9080100@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <201005130910.53687.kassube@gmx.net> Wulfy wrote: > Since I've upgraded to Lucid, I haven't been able to burn a DVD. I > get an error from cdrecord (error 254, which is, apparently, > 'unknown'). I've googled but can't find anything that helps. Despite > what the report below says about bytes written, no data is written > to the disk. I don't know if it would help, but you could try to use the original cdrecord from [1]. You would have to compile from source though. Nils [1] From wayward4now at gmail.com Thu May 13 07:49:07 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 03:49:07 -0400 Subject: Status of Lucid??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1273736947.1949.28.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 00:06 -0700, Bill vance wrote: > I'm getting notices about the latest stable version of Lucid > being available. > > Just how good/bad is it? Has it fixed the problems that > Karmic has, like sub microscopic printing in the menuing, or > on the various gadgets, and not being capable of recognizing, > or otherwise dealing with Hewlett Packard printers, etc? Funny you should mention that ... the original HP printer utils don't seem to be completely there. It's not detecting my ink levels, when before it did. Ric From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu May 13 08:31:52 2010 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 18:31:52 +1000 Subject: Status of Lucid??? In-Reply-To: <1273736947.1949.28.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <1273736947.1949.28.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <4BEBB8F8.5090809@iinet.net.au> On 13/05/10 17:49, Ric Moore wrote: > On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 00:06 -0700, Bill vance wrote: > >> I'm getting notices about the latest stable version of Lucid >> being available. >> >> Just how good/bad is it? Has it fixed the problems that >> Karmic has, like sub microscopic printing in the menuing, or >> on the various gadgets, and not being capable of recognizing, >> or otherwise dealing with Hewlett Packard printers, etc? >> > Funny you should mention that ... the original HP printer utils don't > seem to be completely there. It's not detecting my ink levels, when > before it did. Ric > There is a special package to do this, called libinklevel, or something. BC -- ATTORNEY: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he doesn't know about it until the next morning? WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam? From bqz69 at telia.com Thu May 13 09:19:05 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 09:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: How to get a white background and black text on lucid 10.04 kde desktop Message-ID: I have installed 10.04 lucid and kde 4.4.2 I used the alternate cd and I have both gnome and kde installed. How do I get a white background and black icon text on my desktop. How do I move the small desktop icons on the panel to the right side. Anybody know about a quick setup guide to kde 4.4.x in lucid 10.04 I know fairly well how to setup kde 3.5 By the way, I am very positive impressed by this new KDE :-) Congratulations to all you smart developers out there! From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu May 13 12:35:18 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 07:35:18 -0500 Subject: Status of Lucid??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BEBF206.8070209@swbell.net> On 05/13/2010 02:06 AM, Bill vance wrote: > I'm getting notices about the latest stable version of Lucid > being available. > > Just how good/bad is it? Has it fixed the problems that > Karmic has, like sub microscopic printing in the menuing, or > on the various gadgets, and not being capable of recognizing, > or otherwise dealing with Hewlett Packard printers, etc? > > Bill > > All I can say is that for my use it seems to work pretty well. Just wish I could figure out how to get my Wacom Tablet working. But, it didn't work before the upgrade either. That's about the biggest issue I've come across so far. Disclaimer I'm not a power user. Just your average home computer user typically on Windows. -- Some people are like Slinky's. Not good for much but fun to watch when you push them down the stairs. Sent with Thunderbird on my Kubuntu Linux Desktop From g.lip at gmx.com Thu May 13 13:17:36 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 21:17:36 +0800 Subject: How to get a white background and black text on lucid 10.04 kde desktop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BEBFBF0.40805@gmx.com> On 05/13/2010 05:19 PM, user1 wrote: > I have installed 10.04 lucid and kde 4.4.2 > I used the alternate cd and I have both gnome and kde installed. > If you've installed kde *other* than "kubuntu-desktop", then 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'. If you have done that, then at a terminal 'dpkg-reconfigure kdm' may help. > How do I get a white background and black icon text on my desktop. > > How do I move the small desktop icons on the panel to the right side. There is a small 'cashew' on top right corner of screen, right click and 'unlock widgets', then a similar cashew will appear at the panel, right click and modify away. > > Anybody know about a quick setup guide to kde 4.4.x in lucid 10.04 > These may help, not specifically on kubuntu, but applies nevertheless. http://userbase.kde.org/ http://www.kde.org/ > I know fairly well how to setup kde 3.5 > > By the way, I am very positive impressed by this new KDE :-) > > Congratulations to all you smart developers out there! We are all users here, and developers seldom see this list, and same goes for the ubuntu-list. Launchpad will be a better place if you need developers to read, understand your concerns. Regards - Goh Lip From bqz69 at telia.com Thu May 13 14:57:01 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 14:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: How to get a white background and black text on lucid 10.04 kde desktop References: <4BEBFBF0.40805@gmx.com> Message-ID: > If you've installed kde *other* than "kubuntu-desktop", then 'sudo > apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'. If you have done that, then at a > terminal 'dpkg-reconfigure kdm' may help. I have kubuntu-desktop installed :-) > >> How do I get a white background and black icon text on my desktop. >> >> How do I move the small desktop icons on the panel to the right side. I have a white background with black text on my 9.04. But how do I get exactly that in 10.04? > > There is a small 'cashew' on top right corner of screen, right click and > 'unlock widgets', then a similar cashew will appear at the panel, right > click and modify away. I use to right click on the desktop to unlock/lock widgets. I find KDE 4.2.2. to be owerwhelming with setup alternatives! - difficult to learn for new users. >> Anybody know about a quick setup guide to kde 4.4.x in lucid 10.04 > These may help, not specifically on kubuntu, but applies nevertheless. > http://userbase.kde.org/ > http://www.kde.org/ By the way, I am very positive impressed by this new KDE :-) Congratulations to all you smart developers out there! I wrote above to tell other linux people that lucid is good - to spread the word There is less activity on this list, thats's why I prefer the ubuntu users list, as more people will see my questions there I feel. By the way I tried to report a bug about kalarm not giving audio alarm, but the launchpad system would not recognize my username/password when I was transferred to the kde bug tracking system - I have reported this to the launchpad people. From kaj at haulrich.net Thu May 13 15:12:10 2010 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 17:12:10 +0200 Subject: Status of Lucid??? In-Reply-To: <4BEBF206.8070209@swbell.net> References: <4BEBF206.8070209@swbell.net> Message-ID: <1273763530.5178.22.camel@haulrich> On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 07:35 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > On 05/13/2010 02:06 AM, Bill vance wrote: > > I'm getting notices about the latest stable version of Lucid > > being available. > > > > Just how good/bad is it? Has it fixed the problems that > > Karmic has, like sub microscopic printing in the menuing, or > > on the various gadgets, and not being capable of recognizing, > > or otherwise dealing with Hewlett Packard printers, etc? > > > > Bill > > > > > > All I can say is that for my use it seems to work pretty well. Just wish > I could figure out how to get my Wacom Tablet working. But, it didn't > work before the upgrade either. That's about the biggest issue I've come > across so far. Well, since you asked here's my take on it: Finally - after all those years with linux and KDE - I gave up on Kubuntu. First, the recent upgrade from Karmic to Lucid trashed wireless on my laptops rendering them essentially useless. I managed to fix them - temporarily, that is - by rolling wicd back to the Karmic version. Then I upgraded my desktop (a relatively new triple-CPU 64bit machine). Ever since then I've had unending trouble, first and foremost with Akonadi crashing Kmail and who knows what. Nepomuk eating all CPU ressources, that damnned 'cashew' changing my screen etc. etc... I don't know why someone came up with the idea of this Akonadi-crap. No way to get rid of it or turn it off, as far as I could see. And I remember the good old days when everything KDE was rock solid. Now it's gone all the way into the crapola department... OK - I got all my beloved KDE-apps (digikam, gwenview, kipi-plugins, dolphin, krename etc.) back again, thusly: Installed vanilla Ubuntu 10.04. Then all the KDE apps mentioned. When everything worked well, I purged Akonadi and associated crap(was installed automatically by the KDE apps as dependencies). And now everything runs like a lightning in oil. Life is good. Kaj Haulrich. From g.lip at gmx.com Thu May 13 15:22:09 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 23:22:09 +0800 Subject: How to get a white background and black text on lucid 10.04 kde desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4BEBFBF0.40805@gmx.com> Message-ID: On 05/13/2010 10:57 PM, user1 wrote: > >> If you've installed kde *other* than "kubuntu-desktop", then 'sudo >> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'. If you have done that, then at a >> terminal 'dpkg-reconfigure kdm' may help. > > I have kubuntu-desktop installed :-) > >> >>> How do I get a white background and black icon text on my desktop. >>> >>> How do I move the small desktop icons on the panel to the right side. > > I have a white background with black text on my 9.04. > > But how do I get exactly that in 10.04? This, I do not really understand. In what application is the white background with black text? If others know what 'user1' (Josef, right?) is talking about, please reply to him. >> >> There is a small 'cashew' on top right corner of screen, right click and >> 'unlock widgets', then a similar cashew will appear at the panel, right >> click and modify away. > > I use to right click on the desktop to unlock/lock widgets. > > I find KDE 4.2.2. to be owerwhelming with setup alternatives! - difficult > to learn for new users. Yes, true, but that's what I like about kde. It is so 'tweakable' and configurable with its many shortcuts that you can set it to whatever you like. > >>> Anybody know about a quick setup guide to kde 4.4.x in lucid 10.04 > >> These may help, not specifically on kubuntu, but applies nevertheless. >> http://userbase.kde.org/ >> http://www.kde.org/ > > By the way, I am very positive impressed by this new KDE :-) > > Congratulations to all you smart developers out there! > > I wrote above to tell other linux people that lucid is good - to spread > the word > > There is less activity on this list, thats's why I prefer the ubuntu > users list, as more people will see my questions there I feel. Maybe it's just that people here know what they are doing and have less questions. :) and they are also very friendly (they'll send you a warm fuzzy rabbit too). Definitely not for the rude. > > By the way I tried to report a bug about kalarm not giving audio alarm, > but the launchpad system would not recognize my username/password when I > was transferred to the kde bug tracking system - I have reported this to > the launchpad people. > You may have to register a new 'account' at launchpad. Okay, good luck, others please help him with the black b/g white text. Regards - Goh Lip From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu May 13 15:31:47 2010 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:31:47 -0500 Subject: Status of Lucid??? In-Reply-To: <1273763530.5178.22.camel@haulrich> References: <4BEBF206.8070209@swbell.net> <1273763530.5178.22.camel@haulrich> Message-ID: <4BEC1B63.7080602@swbell.net> On 05/13/2010 10:12 AM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 07:35 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > >> On 05/13/2010 02:06 AM, Bill vance wrote: >> >>> I'm getting notices about the latest stable version of Lucid >>> being available. >>> >>> Just how good/bad is it? Has it fixed the problems that >>> Karmic has, like sub microscopic printing in the menuing, or >>> on the various gadgets, and not being capable of recognizing, >>> or otherwise dealing with Hewlett Packard printers, etc? >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >> All I can say is that for my use it seems to work pretty well. Just wish >> I could figure out how to get my Wacom Tablet working. But, it didn't >> work before the upgrade either. That's about the biggest issue I've come >> across so far. >> > Well, since you asked here's my take on it: Finally - after all those > years with linux and KDE - I gave up on Kubuntu. > > First, the recent upgrade from Karmic to Lucid trashed wireless on my > laptops rendering them essentially useless. I managed to fix them - > temporarily, that is - by rolling wicd back to the Karmic version. > I've never had any issue with the standard network manager. [ but I have to say my needs are simple. ] We just came back from a trip and it worked flawlessly in the hotel on their wireless system. It works well here on our home network also. > Then I upgraded my desktop (a relatively new triple-CPU 64bit machine). > Ever since then I've had unending trouble, first and foremost with > Akonadi crashing Kmail and who knows what. Nepomuk eating all CPU > ressources, that damnned 'cashew' changing my screen etc. etc... > I don't use Kmail so I have no issue with this problem. No issues with Nepomuk, whatever that is. The cashew only does anything when I click on it, which is virtually never. > I don't know why someone came up with the idea of this Akonadi-crap. No > way to get rid of it or turn it off, as far as I could see. And I > remember the good old days when everything KDE was rock solid. Now it's > gone all the way into the crapola department... > > OK - I got all my beloved KDE-apps (digikam, gwenview, kipi-plugins, > dolphin, krename etc.) back again, thusly: > > Installed vanilla Ubuntu 10.04. Then all the KDE apps mentioned. When > everything worked well, I purged Akonadi and associated crap(was > installed automatically by the KDE apps as dependencies). And now > everything runs like a lightning in oil. > > Life is good. > > Kaj Haulrich. > > > > > > -- Some people are like Slinky's. Not good for much but fun to watch when you push them down the stairs. Sent with Thunderbird on my Kubuntu Linux Desktop From bqz69 at telia.com Thu May 13 16:43:21 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: How to get a white background and black text on lucid 10.04 kde desktop References: <4BEBFBF0.40805@gmx.com> Message-ID: >> > You may have to register a new 'account' at launchpad. Oh yes, I tried to do that, but the procedure was very "sticky" (means the system filling the registry formular by it self not letting me do that) but I ended up with an account to launchpad, but I could still not get into the kde bug tracking system to report my bug, saying wrong username and password or something like that:-) From myriam at kubuntu.org Thu May 13 17:16:20 2010 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 19:16:20 +0200 Subject: How to get a white background and black text on lucid 10.04 kde desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4BEBFBF0.40805@gmx.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 18:43, user1 wrote: >>> >> You may have to register a new 'account' at launchpad. > > Oh yes, I tried to do that, but the procedure was very "sticky" (means > the system filling the registry formular by it self not letting me do > that) but I ended up with an account to launchpad, but I could still not > get into the kde bug tracking system to report my bug, saying wrong > username and password or something like that:-) Because the KDE bug tracking system doesn't use launchpad, those are completely separate bug trackers... You have still not explained which application you want to have a white background with black text in, could you please do that? Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From helder.earth at gmail.com Thu May 13 18:48:25 2010 From: helder.earth at gmail.com (Helder Terra) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 15:48:25 -0300 Subject: Video configuration Message-ID: <00c201caf2cc$e2362590$4101a8c0@R161> I've sent this message before, but there was a problem with my subscription. So, let's try again: I've just installed Lucid Lynx and it's perfect. But I seem to have a problem about keeping my video configuration. As I mark the 1280 x 720 option to reset my screen size (the other one, 1024 x 768, is set by Kubuntu as an automatic choice by default), it is resized instantly. But as soon as reboot (or turn on/off) the computer, the screen gets back to 1024 x 768. Is there a way to make the video configuration I prefer to stay as default? Hope someone can help me with this. It isn't exactly troublesome, but annoying sometimes. Thanks for your time. Helder Terra -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu May 13 19:10:53 2010 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 19:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Video configuration In-Reply-To: <00c201caf2cc$e2362590$4101a8c0@R161> Message-ID: <839123748.30144501273777853296.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Helder Terra" >To: "Kubuntu" >Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:48:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >Subject: Video configuration > >I've sent this message before, but there was a problem with my subscription. So, let's try again: >I've just installed Lucid Lynx and it's perfect. But I seem to have a problem about keeping my video configuration. > >As I mark the 1280 x 720 option to reset my screen size (the other one, 1024 x 768, is set by Kubuntu as an automatic >choice by default), it is resized instantly. > >But as soon as reboot (or turn on/off) the computer, the screen gets back to 1024 x 768. > >Is there a way to make the video configuration I prefer to stay as default? > >Hope someone can help me with this. It isn't exactly troublesome, but annoying sometimes. > >Thanks for your time. > >Helder Terra > >-- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users You should search the kubuntu wiki for xrandr which is the program that auto configs X. There's a page that shows how to write an xorg.conf file to force a video config since X no longer requires one, but can use one, if available. 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When I delete items from dolphin, which moves them to the trashcan, they are not moved to the trashcan widget that is on the desktop, hence it cannot be used to delete these trashcan items. How do I get rid of these items moved to the trashcan, and where is this trashcan so that I can move it to the desktop. Also, why does a fresh install of Lucid not put the standard icons onto the desktop automatically (Trash, Home, Welcome)? regards, Steve -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: samorris.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 126 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Thu May 13 21:46:54 2010 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 22:46:54 +0100 Subject: Lucid Desktop Usage Issues In-Reply-To: <4BEC701E.30805@netspace.net.au> References: <4BEC701E.30805@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <201005132246.55649.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Thursday 13 May 2010 22:33:18 Steve Morris wrote: > I have just installed Lucid from scratch via the kubuntu alternate cd > because an upgrade via the alternate cd failure destroyed my system. > Having booted into kde the desktop is completely devoid of any icons > (there's not even a trashcan) and switching to folderview pointed at my > desktop directory makes no difference (the directory is probably empty > too, being a new installation). Consequently I have manually put the > trashcan widget (via add widgets) onto the desktop. When I delete items > from dolphin, which moves them to the trashcan, they are not moved to > the trashcan widget that is on the desktop, hence it cannot be used to > delete these trashcan items. How do I get rid of these items moved to > the trashcan, and where is this trashcan so that I can move it to the > desktop. > Also, why does a fresh install of Lucid not put the standard icons onto > the desktop automatically (Trash, Home, Welcome)? > > regards, > Steve Try creating a file on your desktop called trash.desktop and then pasting the following into it: [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Trash Name[en_GB]=Wastebin Comment=Contains removed files Icon=user-trash-full EmptyIcon=user-trash Type=Link URL=trash:/ OnlyShowIn=KDE; You may have to log out and back in for it to work. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From fatgerman at googlemail.com Thu May 13 21:48:48 2010 From: fatgerman at googlemail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 22:48:48 +0100 Subject: Lucid Desktop Usage Issues In-Reply-To: <4BEC701E.30805@netspace.net.au> References: <4BEC701E.30805@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <201005132248.48476.Fatgerman@googlemail.com> On Thursday 13 May 2010 22:33:18 Steve Morris wrote: > I have just installed Lucid from scratch via the kubuntu alternate cd > because an upgrade via the alternate cd failure destroyed my system. > Having booted into kde the desktop is completely devoid of any icons > (there's not even a trashcan) and switching to folderview pointed at my > desktop directory makes no difference (the directory is probably empty > too, being a new installation). Consequently I have manually put the > trashcan widget (via add widgets) onto the desktop. When I delete items > from dolphin, which moves them to the trashcan, they are not moved to > the trashcan widget that is on the desktop, hence it cannot be used to > delete these trashcan items. How do I get rid of these items moved to > the trashcan, and where is this trashcan so that I can move it to the > desktop. > Also, why does a fresh install of Lucid not put the standard icons onto > the desktop automatically (Trash, Home, Welcome)? > > regards, > Steve > > I can't answer why the normal icons aren't present (personally I prefer it that way) or why the desktop widget doesn't work (it works for me) but if you open Dolphin, the Places panel has a link to the Wastebin and you can right-click it to empty it. If the Places panel isn't visible you just hit F9. Bear in mind also that Dolphin has a 'Delete' function as well as a 'Move to Wastebin' function. The Delete function doesn't use the Wastebin. Mark From bqz69 at telia.com Thu May 13 22:04:37 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 22:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: How to get a white background and black text on lucid 10.04 kde desktop References: <4BEBFBF0.40805@gmx.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 May 2010 19:16:20 +0200, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 18:43, user1 wrote: >>>> >>> You may have to register a new 'account' at launchpad. >> >> Oh yes, I tried to do that, but the procedure was very "sticky" (means >> the system filling the registry formular by it self not letting me do >> that) but I ended up with an account to launchpad, but I could still >> not get into the kde bug tracking system to report my bug, saying wrong >> username and password or something like that:-) > > Because the KDE bug tracking system doesn't use launchpad, those are > completely separate bug trackers... > > You have still not explained which application you want to have a white > background with black text in, could you please do that? kde desktop > > > Regards, Myriam. From g.lip at gmx.com Thu May 13 22:27:48 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 06:27:48 +0800 Subject: How to get a white background and black text on lucid 10.04 kde desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4BEBFBF0.40805@gmx.com> Message-ID: <4BEC7CE4.6090102@gmx.com> On 05/14/2010 06:04 AM, user1 wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 2010 19:16:20 +0200, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > >> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 18:43, user1 wrote: >> You have still not explained which application you want to have a white >> background with black text in, could you please do that? > > kde desktop I think none of us here understand you. Can you pastebin a screenshot of your kde desktop (with some text?) in it? goh lip From jonorland at gmail.com Thu May 13 22:34:24 2010 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 00:34:24 +0200 Subject: How to get a white background and black text on lucid 10.04 kde desktop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2010/5/13 user1 : > I have installed 10.04 lucid and kde 4.4.2 > > I used the alternate cd and I have both gnome and kde installed. > > How do I get a white background and black icon text on my desktop. > Right click on the desktop, choose "activity settings", In the "Type" drop down box select color to what ever you want. You can change the text color from System Settings->Look->Colors. I don't know the exact English translation but you should understand what I mean. Good luck. / Jonas From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Thu May 13 22:45:39 2010 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 18:45:39 -0400 Subject: Status of Lucid??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201005131845.39210.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Thursday, May 13, 2010 03:06:50 am Bill vance wrote: > I'm getting notices about the latest stable version of Lucid > being available. > > Just how good/bad is it? Has it fixed the problems that > Karmic has, like sub microscopic printing in the menuing, or > on the various gadgets, and not being capable of recognizing, > or otherwise dealing with Hewlett Packard printers, etc? > > Bill I don't know about the printer but the font is definitely different after I upgraded last night. It looks gnome-y right now. I had it set on 120 dpi because it was too small at 96. Lemme set it back . . . . . . . Yup, that was it. I restarted Kontact and it looks a lot better at this size. Just like it was before at 120 dpi. That seems to be fixed. I had a bug where kontact would not completely quit when it was minimized and then closed from the system tray. That is gone now. It starts a lot quicker too. I did get a bad upgrade on the graphics but a purge and install of the package nvidia-glx-185 fixed it immediately. Everything else works just like before. -- Alan "Now no one has to tell an old Aberdeene pub-crawler how to applaud, captain." Montgomery Scott From bqz69 at telia.com Thu May 13 22:48:03 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 22:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: How to get a white background and black text on lucid 10.04 kde desktop References: <4BEBFBF0.40805@gmx.com> <4BEC7CE4.6090102@gmx.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 May 2010 06:27:48 +0800, Goh Lip wrote: > On 05/14/2010 06:04 AM, user1 wrote: >> On Thu, 13 May 2010 19:16:20 +0200, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >> >>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 18:43, user1 wrote: > > >>> You have still not explained which application you want to have a >>> white background with black text in, could you please do that? >> >> kde desktop > > I think none of us here understand you. Can you pastebin a screenshot of > your kde desktop (with some text?) in it? > > goh lip Well, my kde desktop has a light blue background color with some bubbles etc as decoration, and the text under each icon is black with a small white background color around each icon's text. I want my kde desktop background color to be clean white with the text under each of the icons to be clean black. Possibly these icons are called widgets?. From paul at lemmons.name Thu May 13 23:05:55 2010 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:05:55 -0700 Subject: Links in T-Bird don't switch to Firefox Message-ID: <4BEC85D3.2030002@lemmons.name> It used to be (karmic) that when I clicked on a link in T-Bird it would rotate my screen to the desktop containing Firefox, open the page and display it. Now (lucid) it will send the request to Firefox and it will open the page but focus does not follow the request. I have to click to Firefox manually. Does anyone know if there any way to restore the previous (preferred) behavior? From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Thu May 13 23:25:22 2010 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Tom Bell) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 19:25:22 -0400 Subject: Links in T-Bird don't switch to Firefox In-Reply-To: <4BEC85D3.2030002@lemmons.name> References: <4BEC85D3.2030002@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <4BEC8A62.1070506@cfl.rr.com> On 05/13/2010 07:05 PM, Paul Lemmons wrote: > It used to be (karmic) that when I clicked on a link in T-Bird it would > rotate my screen to the desktop containing Firefox, open the page and > display it. Now (lucid) it will send the request to Firefox and it will > open the page but focus does not follow the request. I have to click to > Firefox manually. Does anyone know if there any way to restore the > previous (preferred) behavior? > > I would check the Firefox settings for focus moving to the new tab. Tom -- "PC, "Where would you like to go today?" ... Mac, "Where would you like to be tomorrow?" ... Linux, "Are you guys coming, or not?"" From jcunning at cunning.ods.org Fri May 14 05:38:39 2010 From: jcunning at cunning.ods.org (Jim Cunning) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 22:38:39 -0700 Subject: Unable to remotely login to KDE with VNC In-Reply-To: <201005130332.15060.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201005121226.07265.jcunning@cunning.ods.org> <201005130332.15060.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201005132239.13856.jcunning@cunning.ods.org> On Wednesday, May 12, 2010 18:32:14 Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > On Wednesday 12 May 2010, Jim Cunning wrote: > > I have a workstation at my office that I cannot login to using a > > local tightVNC and x11vnc at the remote system. When I enter the > > password, my vncviewer window closes and after reconnecting to > > the remote system, the login screen is still present. I know > > it's not a password issue, because this only happens when the > > correct password is entered. If I'm already logged-in, there's > > no problem, even if the session was locked and required entering > > a password. > > > > I'm aware that gdm has a parameter (KillInitClients=false) to > > disable this behavior, but I also saw somewhere that KDE (kdm) > > does not use this. I'm confused by this, because gdm is the > > process displaying the login splash screen. Putting > > "KillInitClients=false" into /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and > > /etc/gdm/custom.conf has no effect. > > > > Anyone know where/what kdm needs to disable this behavior? > > I'm a little confused now - are you using gdm or kdm? Does simply > switching to the other help? Sorry for the confusion. Since I'm using KDE4, I mistakenly assumed I would end up using kdm. Wrong--it's gdm all the way, from login screen to actually running the KDE desktop after login. Now, I'm really confused as to why the gdm parameter "KillInitClients=false" doesn't work as expected. > I know this isn't quite what you want, but would using krfb until you > get this sorted be a viable workaround? Not really. I've tried krfb in the past and found it REALLY slow compared to x11vnc, plus it didn't (then at least) have the -scale option that x11vnc does to permit squeezing a larger office desktop onto my laptop without a bunch of scrolling. Thanks for the suggestion, though. -- Jim -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From valtermura at gmail.com Fri May 14 06:13:49 2010 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 08:13:49 +0200 Subject: My experience with Kontact, Addressbook and Akonadi In-Reply-To: <201005081739.31240.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <201005081739.31240.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201005140813.51374.valtermura@gmail.com> sabato 8 maggio 2010 hai scritto: > Hi all, > > I want to share some experience as stated in the subject, I know one of the > most annoying issue are the problems with the new management of data. > > First of all, I put the Akonadi tray in my System tray and I start Akonadi > from there. It gets me a warning regarding the outgoing messages folder not > found, but I don't care, I suppose it checks in .local/share/local-mail and > Kmail currently uses another path and folder (.kde/share/apps/ect, ect). And this has been solved pointing the Agent "Local folders" to the folder where real mail is stored (.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail) -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From valtermura at gmail.com Fri May 14 06:18:10 2010 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 08:18:10 +0200 Subject: Status of Lucid??? In-Reply-To: <1273763530.5178.22.camel@haulrich> References: <4BEBF206.8070209@swbell.net> <1273763530.5178.22.camel@haulrich> Message-ID: <201005140818.11337.valtermura@gmail.com> giovedì 13 maggio 2010 Kaj Haulrich ha scritto: > > Then I upgraded my desktop (a relatively new triple-CPU 64bit machine). > Ever since then I've had unending trouble, first and foremost with > Akonadi crashing Kmail and who knows what. Nepomuk eating all CPU > ressources, that damnned 'cashew' changing my screen etc. etc... I wrote a message on this topic, read it. -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From faptagon at gmail.com Fri May 14 07:12:24 2010 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 00:12:24 -0700 Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 64, Issue 21 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:09:31 +0300 > From: Dotan Cohen > Subject: Re: Status of Lucid??? > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 13 May 2010 10:06, Bill vance wrote: >> I'm getting notices about the latest stable version of Lucid >> being available. >> >> Just how good/bad is it? ?Has it fixed the problems that >> Karmic has, like sub microscopic printing in the menuing, > > I don't know what that is. Can you link to a bug report, or describe it. > >> or >> on the various gadgets, > > Describe in detail what you are talking about. When I select the gadget at the top left of an app window, the menuing is legible, and the size can be changed through KDE. Just underneath that level, are the application menu gadgets, and the printing on them and their popups is so tiny, you need an electron microscope just to detect them. It's the same with the function gadgets that are usually located just under that level. None of these are changeable through KDE, and its the same with every last stinking program, whether its part of KDE or not. Needless to say, I have not been a happy camper. As for my HP Laserjet 5MP, it worked fine before the upgrade, but now all the setup stuff tells me that it can't find it, or that it's, "in the dungeon". Further, it refuses to allow me to pick the parallel port as its interface. I seem to recall others on the list having problems getting their HP printers working, too, but its been a while. >> and not being capable of recognizing, >> or otherwise dealing with Hewlett Packard printers, etc? >> > > Works fine with my HP 4255. From rrumberger at web.de Fri May 14 11:31:55 2010 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 13:31:55 +0200 Subject: Unable to remotely login to KDE with VNC In-Reply-To: <201005132239.13856.jcunning@cunning.ods.org> References: <201005121226.07265.jcunning@cunning.ods.org> <201005130332.15060.rrumberger@web.de> <201005132239.13856.jcunning@cunning.ods.org> Message-ID: <201005141331.56026.rrumberger@web.de> On Friday 14 May 2010, Jim Cunning wrote: > On Wednesday, May 12, 2010 18:32:14 Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 May 2010, Jim Cunning wrote: > > > I have a workstation at my office that I cannot login to using > > > a local tightVNC and x11vnc at the remote system. When I > > > enter the password, my vncviewer window closes and after > > > reconnecting to the remote system, the login screen is still > > > present. I know it's not a password issue, because this only > > > happens when the correct password is entered. If I'm already > > > logged-in, there's no problem, even if the session was locked > > > and required entering a password. > > > > > > I'm aware that gdm has a parameter (KillInitClients=false) to > > > disable this behavior, but I also saw somewhere that KDE (kdm) > > > does not use this. I'm confused by this, because gdm is the > > > process displaying the login splash screen. Putting > > > "KillInitClients=false" into /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and > > > /etc/gdm/custom.conf has no effect. > > > > > > Anyone know where/what kdm needs to disable this behavior? > > > > I'm a little confused now - are you using gdm or kdm? Does > > simply switching to the other help? > > Sorry for the confusion. Since I'm using KDE4, I mistakenly > assumed I would end up using kdm. Wrong--it's gdm all the way, > from login screen to actually running the KDE desktop after > login. Now, I'm really confused as to why the gdm parameter > "KillInitClients=false" doesn't work as expected. So - does switching help? Have you tried using another VNC client? KRDC springs to mind for some quick tests... > > I know this isn't quite what you want, but would using krfb > > until you get this sorted be a viable workaround? > > Not really. I've tried krfb in the past and found it REALLY slow > compared to x11vnc, plus it didn't (then at least) have the > -scale option that x11vnc does to permit squeezing a larger > office desktop onto my laptop without a bunch of scrolling. That's nothing the server (krfb) should do, it's a client function. krdc does scaling and has done ever since I started using it a couple of years ago. I don't know about speed as I tend to use it over a direct connection where krfb's speed isn't really the limiting factor. --Reinhold From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 14 19:11:15 2010 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 15:11:15 -0400 Subject: How to get a white background and black text on lucid 10.04 kde desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4BEBFBF0.40805@gmx.com> Message-ID: <1273864275.27444.5.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 22:04 +0000, user1 wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 2010 19:16:20 +0200, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 18:43, user1 wrote: > >>>> > >>> You may have to register a new 'account' at launchpad. > >> > >> Oh yes, I tried to do that, but the procedure was very "sticky" (means > >> the system filling the registry formular by it self not letting me do > >> that) but I ended up with an account to launchpad, but I could still > >> not get into the kde bug tracking system to report my bug, saying wrong > >> username and password or something like that:-) > > > > Because the KDE bug tracking system doesn't use launchpad, those are > > completely separate bug trackers... > > > > You have still not explained which application you want to have a white > > background with black text in, could you please do that? > > kde desktop Are you talking about a terminal window?? Ric From linux at ericelliott.us Sat May 15 02:26:16 2010 From: linux at ericelliott.us (Eric Lee Elliott) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 21:26:16 -0500 Subject: A way to be rid or Akonadi, indexing, wallet, hpl*, nepomuk & useless drivers? Message-ID: <4BEE0648.7030801@ericelliott.us> Is there a simple way to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu without Akonadi, wallet, nepomuk, hpl*, IRC, IM & all the drivers that will never be used in my laptops? I have tried to remove software & drivers, often to be notified much other software will also be removed. My question is due to functionality, not just to save disk space. NetworkManager is good after Wallet is disabled for each of 4 computers. ATI video is stable after all the other video hardware drivers are removed from a Thinkpad T60. Eric From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 15 04:47:06 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 06:47:06 +0200 Subject: A way to be rid or Akonadi, indexing, wallet, hpl*, nepomuk & useless drivers? In-Reply-To: <4BEE0648.7030801@ericelliott.us> References: <4BEE0648.7030801@ericelliott.us> Message-ID: <201005150647.07033.kassube@gmx.net> Eric Lee Elliott wrote: > Is there a simple way to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu without Akonadi, > wallet, nepomuk, hpl*, IRC, IM & all the drivers that will never be > used in my laptops? Simple way? No. Well, you could install Ubuntu or Xubuntu which comes without Akonadi, Kwallet and Nepomuk, but you could not install most of the KDE programs you probably want to use (or why did you install Kubuntu?). But Ubuntu and maybe also Xubuntu have their own dependencies you won't like. Therefore I think, the only way to have only those things installed which you think are important, would be to compile most things from source. Nils From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 15 04:55:10 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 06:55:10 +0200 Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 64, Issue 21 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201005150655.10781.kassube@gmx.net> Bill vance wrote: > As for my HP Laserjet 5MP, it worked fine before the upgrade, but now > all the setup > stuff tells me that it can't find it, or that it's, "in the dungeon". > Further, it refuses to allow > me to pick the parallel port as its interface. I seem to recall > others on the list having > problems getting their HP printers working, too, but its been a > while. Did you try kdesudo hp-setup -i /dev/parport0 to find the parallel port printer? Other than that, if you still have a backup of the /etc/cups/ directory from a previous Kubuntu version where it worked, you could try with the files from the backup (and don't forget to restart cups). Nils From bqz69 at telia.com Sat May 15 08:48:57 2010 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 08:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: How to get a white background and black text on lucid 10.04 kde desktop References: <4BEBFBF0.40805@gmx.com> <1273864275.27444.5.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: >> kde desktop > > Are you talking about a terminal window?? Ric No, the very desktop, but I got a reply in this thread from Jonas, which showed the way. From claydoh at midmaine.com Sat May 15 11:32:10 2010 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 07:32:10 -0400 Subject: A way to be rid or Akonadi, indexing, wallet, hpl*, nepomuk & useless drivers? In-Reply-To: <4BEE0648.7030801@ericelliott.us> References: <4BEE0648.7030801@ericelliott.us> Message-ID: <4BEE863A.30305@midmaine.com> Eric Lee Elliott wrote: > Is there a simple way to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu without Akonadi, No, it is tied tightly with KDE (no matter the distro) > wallet Can't easily remove, but can very easily be disabled after the install. (but imo having it by default is the wise choice, stolen or borowed laptops without secure passwords are just two reason for this, having been bit by these myself I no longer disable kwallet on my laptops but do still disable on my desktop at home) , nepomuk, Also can be disabled after the install hpl*, IRC, IM& all the drivers that will never be used > in my laptops? irc and im are not driver, but are just applications. These can be removed, and the package manager will also remove packages that are required by what you are removing. If you are not sure what is safe or not for the package manager to uninstall, post the list here and we can help you determine. unused Drivers usually can be removed safely, but the above is also something to take into account. Also note that unused drivers are not actually loaded if they are not being used at least in the vast majority of cases. clay > > I have tried to remove software& drivers, often to be notified much > other software will also be removed. > > My question is due to functionality, not just to save disk space. > NetworkManager is good after Wallet is disabled for each of 4 computers. > ATI video is stable after all the other video hardware drivers are > removed from a Thinkpad T60. > > Eric > From captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk Sat May 15 12:01:19 2010 From: captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 13:01:19 +0100 Subject: My experience with Kontact, Addressbook and Akonadi In-Reply-To: <201005140813.51374.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <201005081739.31240.valtermura@gmail.com> <201005140813.51374.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201005151301.19901.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> On Friday 14 May 2010 07:13:49 Valter Mura wrote: > sabato 8 maggio 2010 hai scritto: > > > Hi all, > > > > I want to share some experience as stated in the subject, I know one of the > > most annoying issue are the problems with the new management of data. > > > > First of all, I put the Akonadi tray in my System tray and I start Akonadi > > from there. It gets me a warning regarding the outgoing messages folder not > > found, but I don't care, I suppose it checks in .local/share/local-mail and > > Kmail currently uses another path and folder (.kde/share/apps/ect, ect). > > And this has been solved pointing the Agent "Local folders" to the folder > where real mail is stored (.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail) > > Would anyone from the Kubuntu team care to comment on how it is acceptable to release something so utterly broken? I've just spent the best part of a morning trying to get this stuff to work. In the end I've just given up. I'll have to live without an address book - I did get the addressbook to work by following this thread, but that had the side effect of making Kopete lose all its account settings every time I logged out. *sigh*. Mark From dave at thefletchers.net Sat May 15 13:10:23 2010 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 14:10:23 +0100 Subject: My experience with Kontact, Addressbook and Akonadi In-Reply-To: <201005151301.19901.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201005081739.31240.valtermura@gmail.com> <201005140813.51374.valtermura@gmail.com> <201005151301.19901.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <201005151410.24030.dave@thefletchers.net> On Saturday 15 May 2010, Mark Greenwood wrote: > Would anyone from the Kubuntu team care to comment on how it is acceptable to release something so utterly broken? I've just spent the best part of a morning trying to get this stuff to work. In the end I've just given up. I'll have to live without an address book - I did get the addressbook to work by following this thread, but that had the side effect of making Kopete lose all its account settings every time I logged out. *sigh*. > > Mark > I'm still using Hardy with kmail, kaddressbook, kwallet and it all works very nicely indeed. I have Lucid installed as a virtual machine, for the sole reason that I need the latest version of ufraw to process the files from my K-7. From what I've read on the list, it sounds like the whole thing has become hugely complicated, unwieldy and unreliable. All I want as a normal, home user, is to have my address book stored on my local hard drive in some sufficiently simple fashion that it not only works, but will continue to work when the system is upgraded, possibly to a new hard drive, and my home directories restored from a tar file backup. Is that too much to ask? I don't know - reading all the tales of woe I've not been tempted to try it yet. Not being a developer, I guess I can't criticise their policies, but what does seem obvious is that if we want Linux to improve the world of personal computing then the user base needs to increase as quickly as possible, in order to, e.g. put pressure on hardware vendors to release driver specifications. Judging purely on what I've been reading on this list over the past few months, Kubuntu is not presently in a position to achieve this. Dave -- Registered Linux user number 393408 From basroufs at gmail.com Sat May 15 13:56:07 2010 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 15:56:07 +0200 Subject: How best to activate a mobile internet modem/ SIM card @ Kubuntu Karmic? Message-ID: Dear Everybody At present, I am trying to activate a mobile internet modem and SIM card at my netbook: Asus 1001HA together with Kubuntu Karmic. For LAN and WLAN, I am using now WICD, with which I have better experience than KNetworkmanager. However, WICD does not work with my mobile broadband internet modem + SIM-card. The mobile internet modem is a "HUAEI Model E1820 HSPA+ USB Slider". I am looking for one or more software package(s) which I could use next to or in addition to WICD. Does "KPPP" have relevance in this context? If so, how to use that package? Thanks, respectfully yours, Bas. From ekoprasetiyo at gmail.com Sat May 15 14:02:33 2010 From: ekoprasetiyo at gmail.com (Eko Prasetiyo) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 21:02:33 +0700 Subject: How best to activate a mobile internet modem/ SIM card @ Kubuntu Karmic? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5/15/10, Bas Roufs wrote: > Dear Everybody > > At present, I am trying to activate a mobile internet modem and SIM > card at my netbook: Asus 1001HA together with Kubuntu Karmic. For LAN > and WLAN, I am using now WICD, with which I have better experience > than KNetworkmanager. However, WICD does not work with my mobile > broadband internet modem + SIM-card. The mobile internet modem is a > "HUAEI Model E1820 HSPA+ USB Slider". > I am looking for one or more software package(s) which I could use > next to or in addition to WICD. > Does "KPPP" have relevance in this context? If so, how to use that package? > > Thanks, respectfully yours, > > Bas. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > try http://blog.charlvn.com/2010/05/vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-on.html perhaps it's work I am using vodafone mobile connect since ibex with huawei e156g -- (^-^)v From captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk Sat May 15 15:41:13 2010 From: captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 16:41:13 +0100 Subject: How best to activate a mobile internet modem/ SIM card @ Kubuntu Karmic? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201005151641.14126.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> On Saturday 15 May 2010 14:56:07 Bas Roufs wrote: > Dear Everybody > > At present, I am trying to activate a mobile internet modem and SIM > card at my netbook: Asus 1001HA together with Kubuntu Karmic. For LAN > and WLAN, I am using now WICD, with which I have better experience > than KNetworkmanager. However, WICD does not work with my mobile > broadband internet modem + SIM-card. The mobile internet modem is a > "HUAEI Model E1820 HSPA+ USB Slider". > I am looking for one or more software package(s) which I could use > next to or in addition to WICD. > Does "KPPP" have relevance in this context? If so, how to use that package? > > Thanks, respectfully yours, > > Bas. > > Wicd doesn't seem to support any mobile internet devices, but I've been using networkmanager successfully with one for a month or so. If you install networkmanager you need to make sure you completely uninstall wicd and reboot before trying networkmanager. You may be able to get KPPP to work but the setup would be much more complex. Mark From basroufs at gmail.com Sat May 15 17:00:54 2010 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 19:00:54 +0200 Subject: How best to activate a mobile internet modem/ SIM card @ Kubuntu Karmic? In-Reply-To: <201005151641.14126.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201005151641.14126.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: > If you install networkmanager you need to make sure you completely uninstall > wicd and reboot before trying networkmanager. Now, networkmanager has been installed instead of WICD. It does work at my machine wired connection. However, I cannot find any applet or icon enabling me to look for WIFI connections. Even if I type "networkmanager" with ALT-F2, nothing happens or pops up. So far, I also did not manage to get the the mobile broadband modem working with it. Do I need any extra package enabling me to control networkmanager with respect to WIFI and HSPA/ USB mobile broadband (HUAWEI E1820)? Respectfully yours, Bas. From basroufs at gmail.com Sat May 15 17:02:29 2010 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 19:02:29 +0200 Subject: How best to activate a mobile internet modem/ SIM card @ Kubuntu Karmic? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > try > http://blog.charlvn.com/2010/05/vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-on.html So far, I did not manage to get this working. Respectfully yours, Bas. > From captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk Sat May 15 17:06:18 2010 From: captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 18:06:18 +0100 Subject: How best to activate a mobile internet modem/ SIM card @ Kubuntu Karmic? In-Reply-To: References: <201005151641.14126.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <201005151806.18963.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> On Saturday 15 May 2010 18:00:54 Bas Roufs wrote: > > If you install networkmanager you need to make sure you completely uninstall > > wicd and reboot before trying networkmanager. > > Now, networkmanager has been installed instead of WICD. It does work > at my machine wired connection. However, I cannot find any applet or > icon enabling me to look for WIFI connections. Even if I type > "networkmanager" with ALT-F2, nothing happens or pops up. So far, I > also did not manage to get the the mobile broadband modem working with > it. Do I need any extra package enabling me to control networkmanager > with respect to WIFI and HSPA/ USB mobile broadband (HUAWEI E1820)? > > Respectfully yours, > > Bas. > > Have you first made sure you removed the wicd daemon as well (package wicd-daemon). If this is still running it will interfere with networkmanager. Probably your problem is that you need to install KNetworkManager. This will give you a taskbar icon. If your HSPA/USB device is recognised, clicking on the icon should permit you to set up a new connection. Similarly for WiFi. Mark From basroufs at gmail.com Sat May 15 17:44:27 2010 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 19:44:27 +0200 Subject: How best to activate a mobile internet modem/ SIM card @ Kubuntu Karmic? In-Reply-To: <201005151806.18963.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201005151641.14126.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> <201005151806.18963.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: > Have you first made sure you removed the wicd daemon as well (package >wicd-daemon). If this is still running it will interfere with networkmanager. Yes, I did. I have used synaptic to install networkmanager, which automatically UN-installed WICD while installing networkmanager. > > Probably your problem is that you need to install KNetworkManager. This >will give you a taskbar icon. If your HSPA/USB device is recognised, clicking >on the icon should permit you to set up a new connection. Similarly for WiFi. I have done so as well. Indeed, my HSPA/USB device is being recognised by KNetworkmanager. But even when giving in the mobile number, PIN- and PUK codes, nothing works out. With WIFI networks, KNetworkmanager simply does not work, even when giving in the correct keys, codes, etc. When giving in this command in a terminal as root: rmmod usbserial I get this result: ERROR: Module usbserial is in use by option When giving in this command: lsusb I get this result: root at Viaconsensus2:~# lsusb Bus 001 Device 006: ID 12d1:14ac Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. Cf.: http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch//bb/viewtopic.php?p=1301#1301 http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/huawei-e1820-umts-stick-von-o2-usb-modeswitch/#post-2254107 What to do next???!!! I really would prefer some solution allowing me to use WICD for LAN and WLAN in combination with some other packages for the mobile USB broadband device "HUAEI E1820". Respectfully yours, Bas. From captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk Sat May 15 18:20:20 2010 From: captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 19:20:20 +0100 Subject: How best to activate a mobile internet modem/ SIM card @ Kubuntu Karmic? In-Reply-To: References: <201005151806.18963.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <201005151920.21234.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> On Saturday 15 May 2010 18:44:27 Bas Roufs wrote: > > Have you first made sure you removed the wicd daemon as well (package >wicd-daemon). If this is still running it will interfere with networkmanager. > > Yes, I did. I have used synaptic to install networkmanager, which > automatically UN-installed WICD while installing networkmanager. My experience is that it doesn't uninstall properly, there is a dependency problem somewhere. Check that the packages 'wicd' and 'wicd-daemon' are both not installed and that you have rebooted. Here are the networkmanager packages I have installed: bob at hoss:~$ apt-cache policy network-manager-kde network-manager-kde: Installed: 1:0.9~svn1112085-0ubuntu4 Candidate: 1:0.9~svn1112085-0ubuntu4 Version table: *** 1:0.9~svn1112085-0ubuntu4 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status bob at hoss:~$ apt-cache policy network-manager network-manager: Installed: 0.8-0ubuntu3 Candidate: 0.8-0ubuntu3 Version table: *** 0.8-0ubuntu3 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status >rmmod usbserial >I get this result: >ERROR: Module usbserial is in use by option My USB HSPA modem also uses the 'option' driver, so yours ought to work with networkmanager. I also have no trouble with WiFi networks. > > What to do next???!!! Some people, myself included, have found that Knetworkmanager works a lot better if KWallet is disabled. You can do this from System settings. > > I really would prefer some solution allowing me to use WICD for LAN > and WLAN in combination with some other packages for the mobile USB > broadband device "HUAEI E1820". > If you're determined to use wicd for WiFi networks, then your only other option for mobile broadband is KPPP. You would need to know the exact sequence of AT commands to send to your modem to make it work. I'm afraid I can't help you with that. Mark > Respectfully yours, > > Bas. > > From claydoh at midmaine.com Sat May 15 21:26:29 2010 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 17:26:29 -0400 Subject: A way to be rid or Akonadi, indexing, wallet, hpl*, nepomuk & =?iso-8859-1?q?useless=09drivers=3F?= In-Reply-To: <4BEED21C.9090101@ericelliott.us> References: <4BEE0648.7030801@ericelliott.us> <4BEE863A.30305@midmaine.com> <4BEED21C.9090101@ericelliott.us> Message-ID: <201005151726.29452.claydoh@midmaine.com> Eric Lee Elliott wrote: > On 05/15/2010 06:32 AM, Clay Weber wrote: >> Eric Lee Elliott wrote: >>> Is there a simple way to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu without Akonadi, >> >> No, it is tied tightly with KDE (no matter the distro) > Makes me wonder about installing Linux, X, OpenOffice, Firefox, > Thunderbird, VLC & some GNU programs. Must study this. >> No problem with these, akonadi is an actual KDE component, none of the above are tied into the desktop environment like that >>> wallet >> >> Can't easily remove, but can very easily be disabled after the install. >> (but imo having it by default is the wise choice, stolen or borowed >> laptops without secure passwords are just two reason for this, having >> been bit by these myself I no longer disable kwallet on my laptops but >> do still disable on my desktop at home) > Network passwords I lack. Other passwords are stored away from wallet. > So far I have not studied wallet, have not spent more than half half > hour trying to configure it to be useful instead of just fool. Why > should I tolerate it demanding password to access open WIFI connection? > Why should I tolerate it demanding password to access 3G connection that > has no software password? ATT data connection has hardware > authentication & SIM card, my UID & PWD fields are usually blank. Yes, I > could play the game with wallet but too often connection fails due to > wallet not playing well. > I could learn wallet, maybe use it without it aperiodically wrecking my > connections, to what gain? Passwords to credit unions & accounts are > still in separate flash drive. Maybe I should search for "reasons to use > wallet instead of" >> The wallet being enabled is just a default setting, one that errs on the side of security, and can either be disabled or adjusted to your liking. >> , nepomuk, >> >> Also can be disabled after the install > Disabled then remove several programs to get 4 programs out of process > list. > Same as hpl stuff, if not used, no HP hardware, why are HP processes in > memory? Who are they serving? linux tends to include many drivers and applications to support as much hardware as possible out of the box, the HP bits you see are helper apps, (not drivers iirc) that hp hardware needs, so they are serving the needs of the many people with HP printers, etc. These can be removed. Again this is just a default setup , one that many distros use to support as many people as possible >> hpl*, IRC, IM & all the drivers that will never be used >>> in my laptops? >> >> irc and im are not driver, but are just applications. > Instant messaging & IRChat I never use & may have open ports? Only if you *run* an im client or irc chat program. Once again, this is a default set of included apps that many people use on a reggular basis. I don't think running an IM or irc *client* (as opposed to a server) has the port security implications you may be worrying about, especially as you don't run them anyway > These can be >> removed, and the package manager will also remove packages that are >> required by what you are removing. If you are not sure what is safe or >> not for the package manager to uninstall, post the list here and we can >> help you determine. >> >> unused Drivers usually can be removed safely, > Drivers are removable & key to making this T60 have stable video, just a > nuisance to remove & keep from again install with updates or check & > remove after large updates. > but the above is also >> something to take into account. Also note that unused drivers are not >> actually loaded if they are not being used > Look again @ hpl stuff... > at least in the vast majority >> of cases. >> >> clay >> >>> >>> I have tried to remove software& drivers, often to be notified much >>> other software will also be removed. These may in fact be some small parts of the packages you are trying to remove, or some other application *requires* the thing you are trying to remove, so the package manager will remove them as well. That is why I suggested posting what is listed to be removed. Often those things are perfectly safe to remove, so that information would be helpful to us in guiding you. >>> My question is due to functionality, not just to save disk space. >>> NetworkManager is good after Wallet is disabled for each of 4 computers. >>> ATI video is stable after all the other video hardware drivers are >>> removed from a Thinkpad T60. >>> >>> Eric >>> >> > > Maybe I should ask a friend these questions. He runs Slackware without > desktop in China. Maybe his security situation drives his lack of desktop. It could also well be a personal preference - Linux gives us the choices to do these things. clay > Thanks Clay. > > Eric > > From errol at tzora.co.il Sat May 15 17:22:13 2010 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 20:22:13 +0300 Subject: How to get a white background and black text on lucid 10.04 kde desktop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BEED845.8050205@tzora.co.il> On 05/13/2010 12:19 PM, user1 wrote: > I have installed 10.04 lucid and kde 4.4.2 > > I used the alternate cd and I have both gnome and kde installed. > > How do I get a white background and black icon text on my desktop. > > How do I move the small desktop icons on the panel to the right side. > > Anybody know about a quick setup guide to kde 4.4.x in lucid 10.04 > > I know fairly well how to setup kde 3.5 > > By the way, I am very positive impressed by this new KDE :-) > > Congratulations to all you smart developers out there! > > > Try System settings>appearance>colors. There you choose what you want. Either choose a theme that gives you the colours you want or in the colors block there is a tab also called colors which enables you to choose colours for individual items. > Errol From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun May 16 08:35:00 2010 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 10:35:00 +0200 Subject: How best to activate a mobile internet modem/ SIM card @ Kubuntu Karmic? In-Reply-To: References: <201005151641.14126.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> <201005151806.18963.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <4BEFAE34.80004@gmail.com> Bas Roufs wrote: >> Have you first made sure you removed the wicd daemon as well (package >wicd-daemon). If this is still running it will interfere with networkmanager. > > Yes, I did. I have used synaptic to install networkmanager, which > automatically UN-installed WICD while installing networkmanager. > >> Probably your problem is that you need to install KNetworkManager. This >> will give you a taskbar icon. If your HSPA/USB device is recognised, clicking >> on the icon should permit you to set up a new connection. Similarly for WiFi. > > I have done so as well. Indeed, my HSPA/USB device is being recognised > by KNetworkmanager. But even when giving in the mobile number, PIN- > and PUK codes, nothing works out. > With WIFI networks, KNetworkmanager simply does not work, even when > giving in the correct keys, codes, etc. > > When giving in this command in a terminal as root: > > rmmod usbserial > > I get this result: > ERROR: Module usbserial is in use by option > > When giving in this command: lsusb > I get this result: > root at Viaconsensus2:~# lsusb > Bus 001 Device 006: ID 12d1:14ac Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. > > Cf.: > http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch//bb/viewtopic.php?p=1301#1301 > > http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/huawei-e1820-umts-stick-von-o2-usb-modeswitch/#post-2254107 > > What to do next???!!! > > I really would prefer some solution allowing me to use WICD for LAN > and WLAN in combination with some other packages for the mobile USB > broadband device "HUAEI E1820". > Here is my experience: For starters you should install Lucid as it has more drivers than Karmic. Second, remove the PIN using a phone. Following that install the package usb-modeswitch that kills off its tendency to appear as a CD-drive instead of modem. Lastly either set up kppp. Kppp must be run as "kdesudo kppp" or you get headaches, I made a shortcut myself. Set up an account that dials *99***1# or *99#1, call it whatever you want. Set up a "3G" modem and change it to use /dev/ttyUSB(0-2), you have to experiment which port works. On one modem I have USB0, on another UBS2 as port instead of /dev/modem Go into modem commands (this is Kppp I am talking about) and change only Initialization string 2 to be: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","yourprovider.xxx" when you dial set user to be " ", an empty space, or you get an error. From mailinglists at steffenkrapp.de Sat May 15 11:28:17 2010 From: mailinglists at steffenkrapp.de (Steffen Krapp) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 13:28:17 +0200 Subject: Akonadi Message-ID: <201005151328.17483.mailinglists@steffenkrapp.de> Hello, I have a problem using the kaddressbook in kubuntu 10.04 because the Akonadi- Server didn't work. I have no experience with mysql, I just installed kubuntu 10.04 and use still my old /home from kubuntu 09.10. Can anyone help me? Here is the log: Akonadi Server Self-Test Report =============================== Test 1: SUCCESS -------- Database driver found. Details: The QtSQL driver 'QMYSQL' is required by your current Akonadi server configuration and was found on your system. File content of '/home/sk/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc': [%General] Driver=QMYSQL SizeThreshold=4096 ExternalPayload=false [QMYSQL] Name=akonadi User= Password= Options="UNIX_SOCKET=/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket" ServerPath=/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi StartServer=true Host= [Debug] Tracer=null Test 2: SUCCESS -------- MySQL server found. Details: You currently have configured Akonadi to use the MySQL server '/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi'. Make sure you have the MySQL server installed, set the correct path and ensure you have the necessary read and execution rights on the server executable. The server executable is typically called 'mysqld', its locations varies depending on the distribution. Test 3: SUCCESS -------- MySQL server is executable. Details: MySQL server found: /usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi Ver 5.1.41-3ubuntu11 for debian-linux-gnu on x86_64 ((Ubuntu)) Test 4: ERROR -------- MySQL server log contains errors. Details: The MySQL server error log file '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err' contains errors. File content of '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err': 100514 15:37:29 [Note] Plugin 'FEDERATED' is disabled. 100514 15:37:30 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 3392373 100514 15:37:30 [Warning] Can't open and lock time zone table: Table 'mysql.time_zone_leap_second' doesn't exist trying to live without them 100514 15:37:30 [ERROR] Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table 'mysql.servers' doesn't exist 100514 15:37:30 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi: ready for connections. Version: '5.1.41-3ubuntu11-log' socket: '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket' port: 0 (Ubuntu) Test 5: SUCCESS -------- MySQL server default configuration found. Details: The default configuration for the MySQL server was found and is readable at /etc/akonadi/mysql- global.conf. File content of '/etc/akonadi/mysql-global.conf': # # Global Akonadi MySQL server settings, # These settings can be adjusted using $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf # # Based on advice by Kris Köhntopp # [mysqld] skip_grant_tables skip_networking # strict query parsing/interpretation # TODO: make Akonadi work with those settings enabled #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables,strict_all_tables,strict_error_for_division_by_zero,no_auto_create_user,no_auto_value_on_zero,no_engine_substitution,no_zero_date,no_zero_in_date,only_full_group_by,pipes_as_concat #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables # use InnoDB for transactions and better crash recovery default_storage_engine=innodb # case-insensitive table names, avoids trouble on windows lower_case_table_names=1 character_set_server=latin1 collation_server=latin1_general_ci table_cache=200 thread_cache_size=3 log_bin=mysql-bin expire_logs_days=3 #sync_bin_log=0 # error log file name, relative to datadir log_error=mysql.err log_warnings=2 # log all queries, useful for debugging but generates an enormous amount of data #log=mysql.full # log queries slower than n seconds, log file name relative to datadir (for debugging only) #log_slow_queries=mysql.slow #long_query_time=1 # log queries not using indices, debug only, disable for production use #log_queries_not_using_indexes=1 # maximum blob size max_allowed_packet=32M max_connections=256 # makes sense when having the same query multiple times # makes no sense with prepared statements and/or transactions query_cache_type=0 query_cache_size=0 innodb_file_per_table=1 innodb_log_buffer_size=1M innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=1M # messure database size and adjust # SELECT sum(data_length) as bla, sum(index_length) as blub FROM information_schema.tables WHERE table_schema not in ("mysql", "information_schema"); innodb_buffer_pool_size=80M # size of average write burst, keep Innob_log_waits small, keep Innodb_buffer_pool_wait_free small (see show global status like "inno%", show global variables) innodb_log_file_size=64M innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit=2 Test 6: SKIP -------- MySQL server custom configuration not available. Details: The custom configuration for the MySQL server was not found but is optional. Test 7: SUCCESS -------- MySQL server configuration is usable. Details: The MySQL server configuration was found at /home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf and is readable. File content of '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf': # # Global Akonadi MySQL server settings, # These settings can be adjusted using $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf # # Based on advice by Kris Köhntopp # [mysqld] skip_grant_tables skip_networking # strict query parsing/interpretation # TODO: make Akonadi work with those settings enabled #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables,strict_all_tables,strict_error_for_division_by_zero,no_auto_create_user,no_auto_value_on_zero,no_engine_substitution,no_zero_date,no_zero_in_date,only_full_group_by,pipes_as_concat #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables # use InnoDB for transactions and better crash recovery default_storage_engine=innodb # case-insensitive table names, avoids trouble on windows lower_case_table_names=1 character_set_server=latin1 collation_server=latin1_general_ci table_cache=200 thread_cache_size=3 log_bin=mysql-bin expire_logs_days=3 #sync_bin_log=0 # error log file name, relative to datadir log_error=mysql.err log_warnings=2 # log all queries, useful for debugging but generates an enormous amount of data #log=mysql.full # log queries slower than n seconds, log file name relative to datadir (for debugging only) #log_slow_queries=mysql.slow #long_query_time=1 # log queries not using indices, debug only, disable for production use #log_queries_not_using_indexes=1 # maximum blob size max_allowed_packet=32M max_connections=256 # makes sense when having the same query multiple times # makes no sense with prepared statements and/or transactions query_cache_type=0 query_cache_size=0 innodb_file_per_table=1 innodb_log_buffer_size=1M innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=1M # messure database size and adjust # SELECT sum(data_length) as bla, sum(index_length) as blub FROM information_schema.tables WHERE table_schema not in ("mysql", "information_schema"); innodb_buffer_pool_size=80M # size of average write burst, keep Innob_log_waits small, keep Innodb_buffer_pool_wait_free small (see show global status like "inno%", show global variables) innodb_log_file_size=64M innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit=2 Test 8: SUCCESS -------- akonadictl found and usable Details: The program '/usr/bin/akonadictl' to control the Akonadi server was found and could be executed successfully. Result: Akonadi 1.3.1 Test 9: SUCCESS -------- Akonadi control process registered at D-Bus. Details: The Akonadi control process is registered at D-Bus which typically indicates it is operational. Test 10: SUCCESS -------- Akonadi server process registered at D-Bus. Details: The Akonadi server process is registered at D-Bus which typically indicates it is operational. Test 11: SUCCESS -------- Nepomuk search service registered at D-Bus. Details: The Nepomuk search service is registered at D-Bus which typically indicates it is operational. Test 12: SUCCESS -------- Nepomuk search service uses an appropriate backend. Details: The Nepomuk search service uses one of the recommended backends. Test 13: SUCCESS -------- Server protocol version is recent enough. Details: The server Protocol version is 23, which equal or newer than the required version 23. Test 14: ERROR -------- No resource agents found. Details: No resource agents have been found, Akonadi is not usable without at least one. This usually means that no resource agents are installed or that there is a setup problem. The following paths have been searched: '/usr/share/akonadi/agents /usr/share/akonadi/agents'. The XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable is set to '/usr/share:/usr/share:/usr/local/share', make sure this includes all paths where Akonadi agents are installed to. Directory listing of '/usr/share/akonadi/agents': birthdaysresource.desktop contactsresource.desktop icalresource.desktop imapresource.desktop kabcresource.desktop kcalresource.desktop knutresource.desktop kolabproxyresource.desktop localbookmarksresource.desktop maildirresource.desktop maildispatcheragent.desktop mboxresource.desktop microblog.desktop mtdummyresource.desktop nepomukcalendarfeeder.desktop nepomukcontactfeeder.desktop nepomuktagresource.desktop nntpresource.desktop notesresource.desktop pop3resource.desktop vcarddirresource.desktop vcardresource.desktop Directory listing of '/usr/share/akonadi/agents': birthdaysresource.desktop contactsresource.desktop icalresource.desktop imapresource.desktop kabcresource.desktop kcalresource.desktop knutresource.desktop kolabproxyresource.desktop localbookmarksresource.desktop maildirresource.desktop maildispatcheragent.desktop mboxresource.desktop microblog.desktop mtdummyresource.desktop nepomukcalendarfeeder.desktop nepomukcontactfeeder.desktop nepomuktagresource.desktop nntpresource.desktop notesresource.desktop pop3resource.desktop vcarddirresource.desktop vcardresource.desktop Environment variable XDG_DATA_DIRS is set to '/usr/share:/usr/share:/usr/local/share' Test 15: SUCCESS -------- No current Akonadi server error log found. Details: The Akonadi server did not report any errors during its current startup. Test 16: ERROR -------- Previous Akonadi server error log found. Details: The Akonadi server did report error during its previous startup into /home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old. File content of '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old': Control process died, committing suicide! Test 17: SUCCESS -------- No current Akonadi control error log found. Details: The Akonadi control process did not report any errors during its current startup. Test 18: SUCCESS -------- No previous Akonadi control error log found. Details: The Akonadi control process did not report any errors during its previous startup. Steffen Krapp From captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 16 10:56:46 2010 From: captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 11:56:46 +0100 Subject: Akonadi In-Reply-To: <201005151328.17483.mailinglists@steffenkrapp.de> References: <201005151328.17483.mailinglists@steffenkrapp.de> Message-ID: <201005161156.46339.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> On Saturday 15 May 2010 12:28:17 Steffen Krapp wrote: > Hello, > > I have a problem using the kaddressbook in kubuntu 10.04 because the Akonadi- > Server didn't work. I have no experience with mysql, I just installed kubuntu > 10.04 and use still my old /home from kubuntu 09.10. Can anyone help me? This appears to be a common bug in the setup of 10.04. The following will probably help.. In System Settings->Advanced tab, choose KDE Resources Choose 'Contacts' from the drop down list You will probably only have one entry for contacts - 'Default Address Book' of type 'file' You need to Add a new resource of type 'Akonadi Address Books'. The next window may take some time to open, and will probably have all sorts of things in it saying 'Akonadi Not Operational'. Don't worry about that. Give your new resource a name. You may also have to add an address book source using the 'Manage Address Book Sources' - Add a 'Personal Contacts' address book source if one doesn't already exist. You should now be able to 'OK' your new Contacts source. Finally, back in the KDE Resources window, you should select the new resource and choose 'Use as Standard'. Phew. I hope that makes sense. I don't know why it needs to be this complicated. I think even Microsoft managed to get address books working in about 1989 so I'm not sure what the KDE guys were thinking when they came up with this nonsense. But anyway, I hope this makes it work for you. It did for me, just about. Mark > > Here is the log: > Akonadi Server Self-Test Report > =============================== > > Test 1: SUCCESS > -------- > > Database driver found. > Details: The QtSQL driver 'QMYSQL' is required by your current Akonadi server > configuration and was found on your system. > > File content of '/home/sk/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc': > [%General] > Driver=QMYSQL > SizeThreshold=4096 > ExternalPayload=false > > [QMYSQL] > Name=akonadi > User= > Password= > Options="UNIX_SOCKET=/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket" > ServerPath=/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi > StartServer=true > Host= > > [Debug] > Tracer=null > > > Test 2: SUCCESS > -------- > > MySQL server found. > Details: You currently have configured Akonadi to use the MySQL server > '/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi'. > Make sure you have the MySQL server installed, set the correct path and ensure > you have the necessary read and execution rights on the server executable. The > server executable is typically called 'mysqld', its locations varies depending > on the distribution. > > Test 3: SUCCESS > -------- > > MySQL server is executable. > Details: MySQL server found: /usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi Ver 5.1.41-3ubuntu11 > for debian-linux-gnu on x86_64 ((Ubuntu)) > > > Test 4: ERROR > -------- > > MySQL server log contains errors. > Details: The MySQL server error log file ' href='/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err'>/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err' > contains errors. > > File content of '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err': > 100514 15:37:29 [Note] Plugin 'FEDERATED' is disabled. > 100514 15:37:30 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 3392373 > 100514 15:37:30 [Warning] Can't open and lock time zone table: Table > 'mysql.time_zone_leap_second' doesn't exist trying to live without them > 100514 15:37:30 [ERROR] Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table > 'mysql.servers' doesn't exist > 100514 15:37:30 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi: ready for connections. > Version: '5.1.41-3ubuntu11-log' socket: > '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket' port: 0 (Ubuntu) > > > Test 5: SUCCESS > -------- > > MySQL server default configuration found. > Details: The default configuration for the MySQL server was found and is > readable at /etc/akonadi/mysql- > global.conf. > > File content of '/etc/akonadi/mysql-global.conf': > # > # Global Akonadi MySQL server settings, > # These settings can be adjusted using $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf > # > # Based on advice by Kris Köhntopp > # > [mysqld] > skip_grant_tables > skip_networking > > # strict query parsing/interpretation > # TODO: make Akonadi work with those settings enabled > #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables,strict_all_tables,strict_error_for_division_by_zero,no_auto_create_user,no_auto_value_on_zero,no_engine_substitution,no_zero_date,no_zero_in_date,only_full_group_by,pipes_as_concat > #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables > > # use InnoDB for transactions and better crash recovery > default_storage_engine=innodb > # case-insensitive table names, avoids trouble on windows > lower_case_table_names=1 > character_set_server=latin1 > collation_server=latin1_general_ci > table_cache=200 > thread_cache_size=3 > log_bin=mysql-bin > expire_logs_days=3 > #sync_bin_log=0 > # error log file name, relative to datadir > log_error=mysql.err > log_warnings=2 > # log all queries, useful for debugging but generates an enormous amount of > data > #log=mysql.full > # log queries slower than n seconds, log file name relative to datadir (for > debugging only) > #log_slow_queries=mysql.slow > #long_query_time=1 > # log queries not using indices, debug only, disable for production use > #log_queries_not_using_indexes=1 > # maximum blob size > max_allowed_packet=32M > max_connections=256 > # makes sense when having the same query multiple times > # makes no sense with prepared statements and/or transactions > query_cache_type=0 > query_cache_size=0 > > innodb_file_per_table=1 > innodb_log_buffer_size=1M > innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=1M > # messure database size and adjust > # SELECT sum(data_length) as bla, sum(index_length) as blub FROM > information_schema.tables WHERE table_schema not in ("mysql", > "information_schema"); > innodb_buffer_pool_size=80M > # size of average write burst, keep Innob_log_waits small, keep > Innodb_buffer_pool_wait_free small (see show global status like "inno%", show > global variables) > innodb_log_file_size=64M > innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit=2 > > > > Test 6: SKIP > -------- > > MySQL server custom configuration not available. > Details: The custom configuration for the MySQL server was not found but is > optional. > > Test 7: SUCCESS > -------- > > MySQL server configuration is usable. > Details: The MySQL server configuration was found at href='/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf'>/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf > and is readable. > > File content of '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf': > # > # Global Akonadi MySQL server settings, > # These settings can be adjusted using $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf > # > # Based on advice by Kris Köhntopp > # > [mysqld] > skip_grant_tables > skip_networking > > # strict query parsing/interpretation > # TODO: make Akonadi work with those settings enabled > #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables,strict_all_tables,strict_error_for_division_by_zero,no_auto_create_user,no_auto_value_on_zero,no_engine_substitution,no_zero_date,no_zero_in_date,only_full_group_by,pipes_as_concat > #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables > > # use InnoDB for transactions and better crash recovery > default_storage_engine=innodb > # case-insensitive table names, avoids trouble on windows > lower_case_table_names=1 > character_set_server=latin1 > collation_server=latin1_general_ci > table_cache=200 > thread_cache_size=3 > log_bin=mysql-bin > expire_logs_days=3 > #sync_bin_log=0 > # error log file name, relative to datadir > log_error=mysql.err > log_warnings=2 > # log all queries, useful for debugging but generates an enormous amount of > data > #log=mysql.full > # log queries slower than n seconds, log file name relative to datadir (for > debugging only) > #log_slow_queries=mysql.slow > #long_query_time=1 > # log queries not using indices, debug only, disable for production use > #log_queries_not_using_indexes=1 > # maximum blob size > max_allowed_packet=32M > max_connections=256 > # makes sense when having the same query multiple times > # makes no sense with prepared statements and/or transactions > query_cache_type=0 > query_cache_size=0 > > innodb_file_per_table=1 > innodb_log_buffer_size=1M > innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=1M > # messure database size and adjust > # SELECT sum(data_length) as bla, sum(index_length) as blub FROM > information_schema.tables WHERE table_schema not in ("mysql", > "information_schema"); > innodb_buffer_pool_size=80M > # size of average write burst, keep Innob_log_waits small, keep > Innodb_buffer_pool_wait_free small (see show global status like "inno%", show > global variables) > innodb_log_file_size=64M > innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit=2 > > > > Test 8: SUCCESS > -------- > > akonadictl found and usable > Details: The program '/usr/bin/akonadictl' to control the Akonadi server was > found and could be executed successfully. > Result: > Akonadi 1.3.1 > > > Test 9: SUCCESS > -------- > > Akonadi control process registered at D-Bus. > Details: The Akonadi control process is registered at D-Bus which typically > indicates it is operational. > > Test 10: SUCCESS > -------- > > Akonadi server process registered at D-Bus. > Details: The Akonadi server process is registered at D-Bus which typically > indicates it is operational. > > Test 11: SUCCESS > -------- > > Nepomuk search service registered at D-Bus. > Details: The Nepomuk search service is registered at D-Bus which typically > indicates it is operational. > > Test 12: SUCCESS > -------- > > Nepomuk search service uses an appropriate backend. > Details: The Nepomuk search service uses one of the recommended backends. > > Test 13: SUCCESS > -------- > > Server protocol version is recent enough. > Details: The server Protocol version is 23, which equal or newer than the > required version 23. > > Test 14: ERROR > -------- > > No resource agents found. > Details: No resource agents have been found, Akonadi is not usable without at > least one. This usually means that no resource agents are installed or that > there is a setup problem. The following paths have been searched: > '/usr/share/akonadi/agents /usr/share/akonadi/agents'. The XDG_DATA_DIRS > environment variable is set to '/usr/share:/usr/share:/usr/local/share', make > sure this includes all paths where Akonadi agents are installed to. > > Directory listing of '/usr/share/akonadi/agents': > birthdaysresource.desktop > contactsresource.desktop > icalresource.desktop > imapresource.desktop > kabcresource.desktop > kcalresource.desktop > knutresource.desktop > kolabproxyresource.desktop > localbookmarksresource.desktop > maildirresource.desktop > maildispatcheragent.desktop > mboxresource.desktop > microblog.desktop > mtdummyresource.desktop > nepomukcalendarfeeder.desktop > nepomukcontactfeeder.desktop > nepomuktagresource.desktop > nntpresource.desktop > notesresource.desktop > pop3resource.desktop > vcarddirresource.desktop > vcardresource.desktop > Directory listing of '/usr/share/akonadi/agents': > birthdaysresource.desktop > contactsresource.desktop > icalresource.desktop > imapresource.desktop > kabcresource.desktop > kcalresource.desktop > knutresource.desktop > kolabproxyresource.desktop > localbookmarksresource.desktop > maildirresource.desktop > maildispatcheragent.desktop > mboxresource.desktop > microblog.desktop > mtdummyresource.desktop > nepomukcalendarfeeder.desktop > nepomukcontactfeeder.desktop > nepomuktagresource.desktop > nntpresource.desktop > notesresource.desktop > pop3resource.desktop > vcarddirresource.desktop > vcardresource.desktop > > Environment variable XDG_DATA_DIRS is set to > '/usr/share:/usr/share:/usr/local/share' > > Test 15: SUCCESS > -------- > > No current Akonadi server error log found. > Details: The Akonadi server did not report any errors during its current > startup. > > Test 16: ERROR > -------- > > Previous Akonadi server error log found. > Details: The Akonadi server did report error during its previous startup into > href='/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old'>/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old. > > File content of '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old': > Control process died, committing suicide! > > > Test 17: SUCCESS > -------- > > No current Akonadi control error log found. > Details: The Akonadi control process did not report any errors during its > current startup. > > Test 18: SUCCESS > -------- > > No previous Akonadi control error log found. > Details: The Akonadi control process did not report any errors during its > previous startup. > > > > Steffen Krapp > > > > From captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 16 11:06:27 2010 From: captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 12:06:27 +0100 Subject: Nepomuk/Strigi Message-ID: <201005161206.27488.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> So, I've got this Nepomuk/Strigi thing running which I believe to be some kind of integrated desktop search and metadata handler, which I would find really useful. The googling I've done suggests that it integrates with Dolphin to allow me to tag and rate files. Can anybody tell me how this works? I can't find any options for tagging or rating, or indeed searching. Where should I look? Thanks, Mark From tanghus at gmail.com Sun May 16 12:57:35 2010 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 14:57:35 +0200 Subject: Nepomuk/Strigi In-Reply-To: <201005161206.27488.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201005161206.27488.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <201005161457.35904.tanghus@gmail.com> On Sunday 16 May 2010 13:06:27 Mark Greenwood wrote: > So, I've got this Nepomuk/Strigi thing running which I believe to be some > kind of integrated desktop search and metadata handler, which I would find > really useful. The googling I've done suggests that it integrates with > Dolphin to allow me to tag and rate files. Can anybody tell me how this > works? I can't find any options for tagging or rating, or indeed > searching. Where should I look? In Dolphin menu View/Panels/Information. Select that and an Information Panel at the right will allow you to tag/rate/comment on the selected file(s). -- Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen From catcott at blueyonder.co.uk Sun May 16 13:04:39 2010 From: catcott at blueyonder.co.uk (Jim MacLeod) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 14:04:39 +0100 Subject: Nepomuk/Strigi References: <201005161206.27488.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Mark Greenwood wrote: > So, I've got this Nepomuk/Strigi thing running which I believe to be some > kind of integrated desktop search and metadata handler, which I would find > really useful. The googling I've done suggests that it integrates with > Dolphin to allow me to tag and rate files. Can anybody tell me how this > works? I can't find any options for tagging or rating, or indeed > searching. Where should I look? > At the simplest level, example - with Dolphin open a folder with .jpg files in it. Press F11 to open the Information panel. As you highlight and/or select a file it will give you options to tag/comment your pictures. Search - just click on the empty Search toolbar and go from there > Thanks, > > Mark HTH Jim From captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 16 13:40:06 2010 From: captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 14:40:06 +0100 Subject: Nepomuk/Strigi In-Reply-To: References: <201005161206.27488.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <201005161440.06905.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> On Sunday 16 May 2010 14:04:39 Jim MacLeod wrote: > Mark Greenwood wrote: > > > So, I've got this Nepomuk/Strigi thing running which I believe to be some > > kind of integrated desktop search and metadata handler, which I would find > > really useful. The googling I've done suggests that it integrates with > > Dolphin to allow me to tag and rate files. Can anybody tell me how this > > works? I can't find any options for tagging or rating, or indeed > > searching. Where should I look? > > > At the simplest level, example - with Dolphin open a folder with .jpg files > in it. > Press F11 to open the Information panel. As you highlight and/or select a > file it will give you options to tag/comment your pictures. > > Search - just click on the empty Search toolbar and go from there > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > HTH > Jim > Thanks both, that's allowed me to tag and rate and search on tags. But.. I'm reading that strigi is supposed to index file contents - like ID3 tags from MP3s and EXIF data from JPEGs etc. But I can't find a way to search this data, as the Search toolbar in Dolphin only allows searching on tags, size, comment, or rating. I'd like to search for, for example, all MP3s with 'Bayou' in the title. Is there another application that I'm missing? Thanks again, Mark From mailinglists at steffenkrapp.de Sun May 16 13:40:35 2010 From: mailinglists at steffenkrapp.de (mailinglists at steffenkrapp.de) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 15:40:35 +0200 Subject: Akonadi In-Reply-To: <201005161156.46339.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201005151328.17483.mailinglists@steffenkrapp.de> <201005161156.46339.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <20100516154035.25167klbqzaagco4@ssl.lux01.de> Hello, I tried what Mark wrote. Now I have another problem: kontact started but I cannot see the program-window. I tried to start from the terminal but I got no messages wich give me a hint about that problem. Has anyone an idea how to deal with this situation? Thanks! Steffen Zitat von Mark Greenwood : > On Saturday 15 May 2010 12:28:17 Steffen Krapp wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have a problem using the kaddressbook in kubuntu 10.04 because >> the Akonadi- >> Server didn't work. I have no experience with mysql, I just >> installed kubuntu >> 10.04 and use still my old /home from kubuntu 09.10. Can anyone help me? > > This appears to be a common bug in the setup of 10.04. The following > will probably help.. > > In System Settings->Advanced tab, choose KDE Resources > Choose 'Contacts' from the drop down list > You will probably only have one entry for contacts - 'Default > Address Book' of type 'file' > You need to Add a new resource of type 'Akonadi Address Books'. > The next window may take some time to open, and will probably have > all sorts of things in it saying 'Akonadi Not Operational'. Don't > worry about that. > Give your new resource a name. You may also have to add an address > book source using the 'Manage Address Book Sources' - Add a > 'Personal Contacts' address book source if one doesn't already exist. > You should now be able to 'OK' your new Contacts source. Finally, > back in the KDE Resources window, you should select the new resource > and choose 'Use as Standard'. > > Phew. I hope that makes sense. I don't know why it needs to be this > complicated. I think even Microsoft managed to get address books > working in about 1989 so I'm not sure what the KDE guys were > thinking when they came up with this nonsense. But anyway, I hope > this makes it work for you. It did for me, just about. > > Mark > > >> >> Here is the log: >> Akonadi Server Self-Test Report >> =============================== >> >> Test 1: SUCCESS >> -------- >> >> Database driver found. >> Details: The QtSQL driver 'QMYSQL' is required by your current >> Akonadi server >> configuration and was found on your system. >> >> File content of '/home/sk/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc': >> [%General] >> Driver=QMYSQL >> SizeThreshold=4096 >> ExternalPayload=false >> >> [QMYSQL] >> Name=akonadi >> User= >> Password= >> Options="UNIX_SOCKET=/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket" >> ServerPath=/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi >> StartServer=true >> Host= >> >> [Debug] >> Tracer=null >> >> >> Test 2: SUCCESS >> -------- >> >> MySQL server found. >> Details: You currently have configured Akonadi to use the MySQL server >> '/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi'. >> Make sure you have the MySQL server installed, set the correct path >> and ensure >> you have the necessary read and execution rights on the server >> executable. The >> server executable is typically called 'mysqld', its locations >> varies depending >> on the distribution. >> >> Test 3: SUCCESS >> -------- >> >> MySQL server is executable. >> Details: MySQL server found: /usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi Ver 5.1.41-3ubuntu11 >> for debian-linux-gnu on x86_64 ((Ubuntu)) >> >> >> Test 4: ERROR >> -------- >> >> MySQL server log contains errors. >> Details: The MySQL server error log file '> href='/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err'>/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err' >> contains errors. >> >> File content of '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err': >> 100514 15:37:29 [Note] Plugin 'FEDERATED' is disabled. >> 100514 15:37:30 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 3392373 >> 100514 15:37:30 [Warning] Can't open and lock time zone table: Table >> 'mysql.time_zone_leap_second' doesn't exist trying to live without them >> 100514 15:37:30 [ERROR] Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table >> 'mysql.servers' doesn't exist >> 100514 15:37:30 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi: ready for connections. >> Version: '5.1.41-3ubuntu11-log' socket: >> '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket' port: 0 (Ubuntu) >> >> >> Test 5: SUCCESS >> -------- >> >> MySQL server default configuration found. >> Details: The default configuration for the MySQL server was found and is >> readable at /etc/akonadi/mysql- >> global.conf. >> >> File content of '/etc/akonadi/mysql-global.conf': >> # >> # Global Akonadi MySQL server settings, >> # These settings can be adjusted using >> $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf >> # >> # Based on advice by Kris Köhntopp >> # >> [mysqld] >> skip_grant_tables >> skip_networking >> >> # strict query parsing/interpretation >> # TODO: make Akonadi work with those settings enabled >> #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables,strict_all_tables,strict_error_for_division_by_zero,no_auto_create_user,no_auto_value_on_zero,no_engine_substitution,no_zero_date,no_zero_in_date,only_full_group_by,pipes_as_concat >> #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables >> >> # use InnoDB for transactions and better crash recovery >> default_storage_engine=innodb >> # case-insensitive table names, avoids trouble on windows >> lower_case_table_names=1 >> character_set_server=latin1 >> collation_server=latin1_general_ci >> table_cache=200 >> thread_cache_size=3 >> log_bin=mysql-bin >> expire_logs_days=3 >> #sync_bin_log=0 >> # error log file name, relative to datadir >> log_error=mysql.err >> log_warnings=2 >> # log all queries, useful for debugging but generates an enormous amount of >> data >> #log=mysql.full >> # log queries slower than n seconds, log file name relative to datadir (for >> debugging only) >> #log_slow_queries=mysql.slow >> #long_query_time=1 >> # log queries not using indices, debug only, disable for production use >> #log_queries_not_using_indexes=1 >> # maximum blob size >> max_allowed_packet=32M >> max_connections=256 >> # makes sense when having the same query multiple times >> # makes no sense with prepared statements and/or transactions >> query_cache_type=0 >> query_cache_size=0 >> >> innodb_file_per_table=1 >> innodb_log_buffer_size=1M >> innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=1M >> # messure database size and adjust >> # SELECT sum(data_length) as bla, sum(index_length) as blub FROM >> information_schema.tables WHERE table_schema not in ("mysql", >> "information_schema"); >> innodb_buffer_pool_size=80M >> # size of average write burst, keep Innob_log_waits small, keep >> Innodb_buffer_pool_wait_free small (see show global status like >> "inno%", show >> global variables) >> innodb_log_file_size=64M >> innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit=2 >> >> >> >> Test 6: SKIP >> -------- >> >> MySQL server custom configuration not available. >> Details: The custom configuration for the MySQL server was not found but is >> optional. >> >> Test 7: SUCCESS >> -------- >> >> MySQL server configuration is usable. >> Details: The MySQL server configuration was found at > href='/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf'>/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf >> and is readable. >> >> File content of '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf': >> # >> # Global Akonadi MySQL server settings, >> # These settings can be adjusted using >> $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf >> # >> # Based on advice by Kris Köhntopp >> # >> [mysqld] >> skip_grant_tables >> skip_networking >> >> # strict query parsing/interpretation >> # TODO: make Akonadi work with those settings enabled >> #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables,strict_all_tables,strict_error_for_division_by_zero,no_auto_create_user,no_auto_value_on_zero,no_engine_substitution,no_zero_date,no_zero_in_date,only_full_group_by,pipes_as_concat >> #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables >> >> # use InnoDB for transactions and better crash recovery >> default_storage_engine=innodb >> # case-insensitive table names, avoids trouble on windows >> lower_case_table_names=1 >> character_set_server=latin1 >> collation_server=latin1_general_ci >> table_cache=200 >> thread_cache_size=3 >> log_bin=mysql-bin >> expire_logs_days=3 >> #sync_bin_log=0 >> # error log file name, relative to datadir >> log_error=mysql.err >> log_warnings=2 >> # log all queries, useful for debugging but generates an enormous amount of >> data >> #log=mysql.full >> # log queries slower than n seconds, log file name relative to datadir (for >> debugging only) >> #log_slow_queries=mysql.slow >> #long_query_time=1 >> # log queries not using indices, debug only, disable for production use >> #log_queries_not_using_indexes=1 >> # maximum blob size >> max_allowed_packet=32M >> max_connections=256 >> # makes sense when having the same query multiple times >> # makes no sense with prepared statements and/or transactions >> query_cache_type=0 >> query_cache_size=0 >> >> innodb_file_per_table=1 >> innodb_log_buffer_size=1M >> innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=1M >> # messure database size and adjust >> # SELECT sum(data_length) as bla, sum(index_length) as blub FROM >> information_schema.tables WHERE table_schema not in ("mysql", >> "information_schema"); >> innodb_buffer_pool_size=80M >> # size of average write burst, keep Innob_log_waits small, keep >> Innodb_buffer_pool_wait_free small (see show global status like >> "inno%", show >> global variables) >> innodb_log_file_size=64M >> innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit=2 >> >> >> >> Test 8: SUCCESS >> -------- >> >> akonadictl found and usable >> Details: The program '/usr/bin/akonadictl' to control the Akonadi server was >> found and could be executed successfully. >> Result: >> Akonadi 1.3.1 >> >> >> Test 9: SUCCESS >> -------- >> >> Akonadi control process registered at D-Bus. >> Details: The Akonadi control process is registered at D-Bus which typically >> indicates it is operational. >> >> Test 10: SUCCESS >> -------- >> >> Akonadi server process registered at D-Bus. >> Details: The Akonadi server process is registered at D-Bus which typically >> indicates it is operational. >> >> Test 11: SUCCESS >> -------- >> >> Nepomuk search service registered at D-Bus. >> Details: The Nepomuk search service is registered at D-Bus which typically >> indicates it is operational. >> >> Test 12: SUCCESS >> -------- >> >> Nepomuk search service uses an appropriate backend. >> Details: The Nepomuk search service uses one of the recommended backends. >> >> Test 13: SUCCESS >> -------- >> >> Server protocol version is recent enough. >> Details: The server Protocol version is 23, which equal or newer than the >> required version 23. >> >> Test 14: ERROR >> -------- >> >> No resource agents found. >> Details: No resource agents have been found, Akonadi is not usable >> without at >> least one. This usually means that no resource agents are installed or that >> there is a setup problem. The following paths have been searched: >> '/usr/share/akonadi/agents /usr/share/akonadi/agents'. The XDG_DATA_DIRS >> environment variable is set to >> '/usr/share:/usr/share:/usr/local/share', make >> sure this includes all paths where Akonadi agents are installed to. >> >> Directory listing of '/usr/share/akonadi/agents': >> birthdaysresource.desktop >> contactsresource.desktop >> icalresource.desktop >> imapresource.desktop >> kabcresource.desktop >> kcalresource.desktop >> knutresource.desktop >> kolabproxyresource.desktop >> localbookmarksresource.desktop >> maildirresource.desktop >> maildispatcheragent.desktop >> mboxresource.desktop >> microblog.desktop >> mtdummyresource.desktop >> nepomukcalendarfeeder.desktop >> nepomukcontactfeeder.desktop >> nepomuktagresource.desktop >> nntpresource.desktop >> notesresource.desktop >> pop3resource.desktop >> vcarddirresource.desktop >> vcardresource.desktop >> Directory listing of '/usr/share/akonadi/agents': >> birthdaysresource.desktop >> contactsresource.desktop >> icalresource.desktop >> imapresource.desktop >> kabcresource.desktop >> kcalresource.desktop >> knutresource.desktop >> kolabproxyresource.desktop >> localbookmarksresource.desktop >> maildirresource.desktop >> maildispatcheragent.desktop >> mboxresource.desktop >> microblog.desktop >> mtdummyresource.desktop >> nepomukcalendarfeeder.desktop >> nepomukcontactfeeder.desktop >> nepomuktagresource.desktop >> nntpresource.desktop >> notesresource.desktop >> pop3resource.desktop >> vcarddirresource.desktop >> vcardresource.desktop >> >> Environment variable XDG_DATA_DIRS is set to >> '/usr/share:/usr/share:/usr/local/share' >> >> Test 15: SUCCESS >> -------- >> >> No current Akonadi server error log found. >> Details: The Akonadi server did not report any errors during its current >> startup. >> >> Test 16: ERROR >> -------- >> >> Previous Akonadi server error log found. >> Details: The Akonadi server did report error during its previous >> startup into >> > href='/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old'>/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old. >> >> File content of '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old': >> Control process died, committing suicide! >> >> >> Test 17: SUCCESS >> -------- >> >> No current Akonadi control error log found. >> Details: The Akonadi control process did not report any errors during its >> current startup. >> >> Test 18: SUCCESS >> -------- >> >> No previous Akonadi control error log found. >> Details: The Akonadi control process did not report any errors during its >> previous startup. >> >> >> >> Steffen Krapp >> >> >> >> > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 16 13:48:10 2010 From: captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 14:48:10 +0100 Subject: Akonadi In-Reply-To: <20100516154035.25167klbqzaagco4@ssl.lux01.de> References: <201005151328.17483.mailinglists@steffenkrapp.de> <201005161156.46339.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> <20100516154035.25167klbqzaagco4@ssl.lux01.de> Message-ID: <201005161448.10403.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> On Sunday 16 May 2010 14:40:35 mailinglists at steffenkrapp.de wrote: > Hello, > > I tried what Mark wrote. Now I have another problem: kontact started > but I cannot see the program-window. I tried to start from the > terminal but I got no messages wich give me a hint about that problem. > Has anyone an idea how to deal with this situation? I've noticed that Kontact sometimes fails to shut down properly and then when you run it again it won't start because it thinks one is already running. You can tell if a kontact is running by typing 'ps -ae | grep kontact'. If you get some output back, you have a 'dead' kontact. Try 'killall kontact' from a terminal and start kontact again. Mark > > Thanks! > Steffen > > Zitat von Mark Greenwood : > > > On Saturday 15 May 2010 12:28:17 Steffen Krapp wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I have a problem using the kaddressbook in kubuntu 10.04 because > >> the Akonadi- > >> Server didn't work. I have no experience with mysql, I just > >> installed kubuntu > >> 10.04 and use still my old /home from kubuntu 09.10. Can anyone help me? > > > > This appears to be a common bug in the setup of 10.04. The following > > will probably help.. > > > > In System Settings->Advanced tab, choose KDE Resources > > Choose 'Contacts' from the drop down list > > You will probably only have one entry for contacts - 'Default > > Address Book' of type 'file' > > You need to Add a new resource of type 'Akonadi Address Books'. > > The next window may take some time to open, and will probably have > > all sorts of things in it saying 'Akonadi Not Operational'. Don't > > worry about that. > > Give your new resource a name. You may also have to add an address > > book source using the 'Manage Address Book Sources' - Add a > > 'Personal Contacts' address book source if one doesn't already exist. > > You should now be able to 'OK' your new Contacts source. Finally, > > back in the KDE Resources window, you should select the new resource > > and choose 'Use as Standard'. > > > > Phew. I hope that makes sense. I don't know why it needs to be this > > complicated. I think even Microsoft managed to get address books > > working in about 1989 so I'm not sure what the KDE guys were > > thinking when they came up with this nonsense. But anyway, I hope > > this makes it work for you. It did for me, just about. > > > > Mark > > > > > >> > >> Here is the log: > >> Akonadi Server Self-Test Report > >> =============================== > >> > >> Test 1: SUCCESS > >> -------- > >> > >> Database driver found. > >> Details: The QtSQL driver 'QMYSQL' is required by your current > >> Akonadi server > >> configuration and was found on your system. > >> > >> File content of '/home/sk/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc': > >> [%General] > >> Driver=QMYSQL > >> SizeThreshold=4096 > >> ExternalPayload=false > >> > >> [QMYSQL] > >> Name=akonadi > >> User= > >> Password= > >> Options="UNIX_SOCKET=/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket" > >> ServerPath=/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi > >> StartServer=true > >> Host= > >> > >> [Debug] > >> Tracer=null > >> > >> > >> Test 2: SUCCESS > >> -------- > >> > >> MySQL server found. > >> Details: You currently have configured Akonadi to use the MySQL server > >> '/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi'. > >> Make sure you have the MySQL server installed, set the correct path > >> and ensure > >> you have the necessary read and execution rights on the server > >> executable. The > >> server executable is typically called 'mysqld', its locations > >> varies depending > >> on the distribution. > >> > >> Test 3: SUCCESS > >> -------- > >> > >> MySQL server is executable. > >> Details: MySQL server found: /usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi Ver 5.1.41-3ubuntu11 > >> for debian-linux-gnu on x86_64 ((Ubuntu)) > >> > >> > >> Test 4: ERROR > >> -------- > >> > >> MySQL server log contains errors. > >> Details: The MySQL server error log file ' >> href='/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err'>/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err' > >> contains errors. > >> > >> File content of '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err': > >> 100514 15:37:29 [Note] Plugin 'FEDERATED' is disabled. > >> 100514 15:37:30 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 3392373 > >> 100514 15:37:30 [Warning] Can't open and lock time zone table: Table > >> 'mysql.time_zone_leap_second' doesn't exist trying to live without them > >> 100514 15:37:30 [ERROR] Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table > >> 'mysql.servers' doesn't exist > >> 100514 15:37:30 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi: ready for connections. > >> Version: '5.1.41-3ubuntu11-log' socket: > >> '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket' port: 0 (Ubuntu) > >> > >> > >> Test 5: SUCCESS > >> -------- > >> > >> MySQL server default configuration found. > >> Details: The default configuration for the MySQL server was found and is > >> readable at /etc/akonadi/mysql- > >> global.conf. > >> > >> File content of '/etc/akonadi/mysql-global.conf': > >> # > >> # Global Akonadi MySQL server settings, > >> # These settings can be adjusted using > >> $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf > >> # > >> # Based on advice by Kris Köhntopp > >> # > >> [mysqld] > >> skip_grant_tables > >> skip_networking > >> > >> # strict query parsing/interpretation > >> # TODO: make Akonadi work with those settings enabled > >> #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables,strict_all_tables,strict_error_for_division_by_zero,no_auto_create_user,no_auto_value_on_zero,no_engine_substitution,no_zero_date,no_zero_in_date,only_full_group_by,pipes_as_concat > >> #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables > >> > >> # use InnoDB for transactions and better crash recovery > >> default_storage_engine=innodb > >> # case-insensitive table names, avoids trouble on windows > >> lower_case_table_names=1 > >> character_set_server=latin1 > >> collation_server=latin1_general_ci > >> table_cache=200 > >> thread_cache_size=3 > >> log_bin=mysql-bin > >> expire_logs_days=3 > >> #sync_bin_log=0 > >> # error log file name, relative to datadir > >> log_error=mysql.err > >> log_warnings=2 > >> # log all queries, useful for debugging but generates an enormous amount of > >> data > >> #log=mysql.full > >> # log queries slower than n seconds, log file name relative to datadir (for > >> debugging only) > >> #log_slow_queries=mysql.slow > >> #long_query_time=1 > >> # log queries not using indices, debug only, disable for production use > >> #log_queries_not_using_indexes=1 > >> # maximum blob size > >> max_allowed_packet=32M > >> max_connections=256 > >> # makes sense when having the same query multiple times > >> # makes no sense with prepared statements and/or transactions > >> query_cache_type=0 > >> query_cache_size=0 > >> > >> innodb_file_per_table=1 > >> innodb_log_buffer_size=1M > >> innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=1M > >> # messure database size and adjust > >> # SELECT sum(data_length) as bla, sum(index_length) as blub FROM > >> information_schema.tables WHERE table_schema not in ("mysql", > >> "information_schema"); > >> innodb_buffer_pool_size=80M > >> # size of average write burst, keep Innob_log_waits small, keep > >> Innodb_buffer_pool_wait_free small (see show global status like > >> "inno%", show > >> global variables) > >> innodb_log_file_size=64M > >> innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit=2 > >> > >> > >> > >> Test 6: SKIP > >> -------- > >> > >> MySQL server custom configuration not available. > >> Details: The custom configuration for the MySQL server was not found but is > >> optional. > >> > >> Test 7: SUCCESS > >> -------- > >> > >> MySQL server configuration is usable. > >> Details: The MySQL server configuration was found at >> href='/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf'>/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf > >> and is readable. > >> > >> File content of '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf': > >> # > >> # Global Akonadi MySQL server settings, > >> # These settings can be adjusted using > >> $HOME/.config/akonadi/mysql-local.conf > >> # > >> # Based on advice by Kris Köhntopp > >> # > >> [mysqld] > >> skip_grant_tables > >> skip_networking > >> > >> # strict query parsing/interpretation > >> # TODO: make Akonadi work with those settings enabled > >> #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables,strict_all_tables,strict_error_for_division_by_zero,no_auto_create_user,no_auto_value_on_zero,no_engine_substitution,no_zero_date,no_zero_in_date,only_full_group_by,pipes_as_concat > >> #sql_mode=strict_trans_tables > >> > >> # use InnoDB for transactions and better crash recovery > >> default_storage_engine=innodb > >> # case-insensitive table names, avoids trouble on windows > >> lower_case_table_names=1 > >> character_set_server=latin1 > >> collation_server=latin1_general_ci > >> table_cache=200 > >> thread_cache_size=3 > >> log_bin=mysql-bin > >> expire_logs_days=3 > >> #sync_bin_log=0 > >> # error log file name, relative to datadir > >> log_error=mysql.err > >> log_warnings=2 > >> # log all queries, useful for debugging but generates an enormous amount of > >> data > >> #log=mysql.full > >> # log queries slower than n seconds, log file name relative to datadir (for > >> debugging only) > >> #log_slow_queries=mysql.slow > >> #long_query_time=1 > >> # log queries not using indices, debug only, disable for production use > >> #log_queries_not_using_indexes=1 > >> # maximum blob size > >> max_allowed_packet=32M > >> max_connections=256 > >> # makes sense when having the same query multiple times > >> # makes no sense with prepared statements and/or transactions > >> query_cache_type=0 > >> query_cache_size=0 > >> > >> innodb_file_per_table=1 > >> innodb_log_buffer_size=1M > >> innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=1M > >> # messure database size and adjust > >> # SELECT sum(data_length) as bla, sum(index_length) as blub FROM > >> information_schema.tables WHERE table_schema not in ("mysql", > >> "information_schema"); > >> innodb_buffer_pool_size=80M > >> # size of average write burst, keep Innob_log_waits small, keep > >> Innodb_buffer_pool_wait_free small (see show global status like > >> "inno%", show > >> global variables) > >> innodb_log_file_size=64M > >> innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit=2 > >> > >> > >> > >> Test 8: SUCCESS > >> -------- > >> > >> akonadictl found and usable > >> Details: The program '/usr/bin/akonadictl' to control the Akonadi server was > >> found and could be executed successfully. > >> Result: > >> Akonadi 1.3.1 > >> > >> > >> Test 9: SUCCESS > >> -------- > >> > >> Akonadi control process registered at D-Bus. > >> Details: The Akonadi control process is registered at D-Bus which typically > >> indicates it is operational. > >> > >> Test 10: SUCCESS > >> -------- > >> > >> Akonadi server process registered at D-Bus. > >> Details: The Akonadi server process is registered at D-Bus which typically > >> indicates it is operational. > >> > >> Test 11: SUCCESS > >> -------- > >> > >> Nepomuk search service registered at D-Bus. > >> Details: The Nepomuk search service is registered at D-Bus which typically > >> indicates it is operational. > >> > >> Test 12: SUCCESS > >> -------- > >> > >> Nepomuk search service uses an appropriate backend. > >> Details: The Nepomuk search service uses one of the recommended backends. > >> > >> Test 13: SUCCESS > >> -------- > >> > >> Server protocol version is recent enough. > >> Details: The server Protocol version is 23, which equal or newer than the > >> required version 23. > >> > >> Test 14: ERROR > >> -------- > >> > >> No resource agents found. > >> Details: No resource agents have been found, Akonadi is not usable > >> without at > >> least one. This usually means that no resource agents are installed or that > >> there is a setup problem. The following paths have been searched: > >> '/usr/share/akonadi/agents /usr/share/akonadi/agents'. The XDG_DATA_DIRS > >> environment variable is set to > >> '/usr/share:/usr/share:/usr/local/share', make > >> sure this includes all paths where Akonadi agents are installed to. > >> > >> Directory listing of '/usr/share/akonadi/agents': > >> birthdaysresource.desktop > >> contactsresource.desktop > >> icalresource.desktop > >> imapresource.desktop > >> kabcresource.desktop > >> kcalresource.desktop > >> knutresource.desktop > >> kolabproxyresource.desktop > >> localbookmarksresource.desktop > >> maildirresource.desktop > >> maildispatcheragent.desktop > >> mboxresource.desktop > >> microblog.desktop > >> mtdummyresource.desktop > >> nepomukcalendarfeeder.desktop > >> nepomukcontactfeeder.desktop > >> nepomuktagresource.desktop > >> nntpresource.desktop > >> notesresource.desktop > >> pop3resource.desktop > >> vcarddirresource.desktop > >> vcardresource.desktop > >> Directory listing of '/usr/share/akonadi/agents': > >> birthdaysresource.desktop > >> contactsresource.desktop > >> icalresource.desktop > >> imapresource.desktop > >> kabcresource.desktop > >> kcalresource.desktop > >> knutresource.desktop > >> kolabproxyresource.desktop > >> localbookmarksresource.desktop > >> maildirresource.desktop > >> maildispatcheragent.desktop > >> mboxresource.desktop > >> microblog.desktop > >> mtdummyresource.desktop > >> nepomukcalendarfeeder.desktop > >> nepomukcontactfeeder.desktop > >> nepomuktagresource.desktop > >> nntpresource.desktop > >> notesresource.desktop > >> pop3resource.desktop > >> vcarddirresource.desktop > >> vcardresource.desktop > >> > >> Environment variable XDG_DATA_DIRS is set to > >> '/usr/share:/usr/share:/usr/local/share' > >> > >> Test 15: SUCCESS > >> -------- > >> > >> No current Akonadi server error log found. > >> Details: The Akonadi server did not report any errors during its current > >> startup. > >> > >> Test 16: ERROR > >> -------- > >> > >> Previous Akonadi server error log found. > >> Details: The Akonadi server did report error during its previous > >> startup into > >> >> href='/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old'>/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old. > >> > >> File content of '/home/sk/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error.old': > >> Control process died, committing suicide! > >> > >> > >> Test 17: SUCCESS > >> -------- > >> > >> No current Akonadi control error log found. > >> Details: The Akonadi control process did not report any errors during its > >> current startup. > >> > >> Test 18: SUCCESS > >> -------- > >> > >> No previous Akonadi control error log found. > >> Details: The Akonadi control process did not report any errors during its > >> previous startup. > >> > >> > >> > >> Steffen Krapp > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > From jonorland at gmail.com Sun May 16 13:54:18 2010 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 15:54:18 +0200 Subject: Akonadi In-Reply-To: <20100516154035.25167klbqzaagco4@ssl.lux01.de> References: <201005151328.17483.mailinglists@steffenkrapp.de> <201005161156.46339.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> <20100516154035.25167klbqzaagco4@ssl.lux01.de> Message-ID: 2010/5/16 : > Hello, > > I tried what Mark wrote. Now I have another problem: kontact started > but I cannot see the program-window. I tried to start from the > terminal but I got no messages wich give me a hint about that problem. > Has anyone an idea how to deal with this situation? > > Thanks! > Steffen > Just the same problem I had. I searched the net for at least six month and nothing I tried worked. I thought upgrading to 10.04 would solve it but it didn't. In the end I ended up renaming ~/.config ~/.local and ~/.kde so I got a fresh and default settings for KDE and it's programs. It made me restore or reconfigure all programs but it solved most of the Akonadi, Nepomuk and Kontact problems. Sometimes I still have problems with Akonadi dont start and crashes for example. / Jonas From mailinglists at steffenkrapp.de Sun May 16 15:00:57 2010 From: mailinglists at steffenkrapp.de (Steffen Krapp) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 17:00:57 +0200 Subject: Akonadi In-Reply-To: <201005161448.10403.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201005151328.17483.mailinglists@steffenkrapp.de> <20100516154035.25167klbqzaagco4@ssl.lux01.de> <201005161448.10403.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <201005161700.57943.mailinglists@steffenkrapp.de> Hello, Mark Greenwood (16.05.2010) wrote: > On Sunday 16 May 2010 14:40:35 mailinglists at steffenkrapp.de wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I tried what Mark wrote. Now I have another problem: kontact started > > but I cannot see the program-window. I tried to start from the > > terminal but I got no messages wich give me a hint about that problem. > > Has anyone an idea how to deal with this situation? > > I've noticed that Kontact sometimes fails to shut down properly and then > when you run it again it won't start because it thinks one is already > running. > > You can tell if a kontact is running by typing 'ps -ae | grep kontact'. If > you get some output back, you have a 'dead' kontact. Try 'killall kontact' > from a terminal and start kontact again. > I already tried to killall kontact. After the second restart off kubuntu kontact is working again, I hope without any further bugs. Greetings Steffen > [...] From linux at ericelliott.us Sun May 16 15:21:58 2010 From: linux at ericelliott.us (Eric Lee Elliott) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 10:21:58 -0500 Subject: re How best to activate a mobile internet modem/ SIM card Message-ID: <4BF00D96.7010108@ericelliott.us> >At present, I am trying to activate a mobile internet modem and SIM >card at my netbook: Asus 1001HA together with Kubuntu Karmic. For LAN >and WLAN, I am using now WICD, with which I have better experience >than KNetworkmanager. However, WICD does not work with my mobile >broadband internet modem + SIM-card. The mobile internet modem is a >"HUAEI Model E1820 HSPA+ USB Slider". >I am looking for one or more software package(s) which I could use >next to or in addition to WICD. >Does "KPPP" have relevance in this context? If so, how to use that >package? Bas, Your 3G modem is not WIFI, it can not be configured by Knetworkmanager using Wireless tab. Open configuration screen of Knetworkmanager. Delete entries in Wireless tab. Select Mobile Broadband tab. Select add. Select GSM. Ignore what you were told about configuring for use in US of A, use your local carrier's configuration in "Add Network Connection" box. Voda is your carrier? I know 0 of Voda. In US of A, I enter *99#, cingular.com & prefer 3G, that is my whole configuration. Entering more might cause troubles. Authentication here is in hardware, not any UID or PWD I can enter. Voda my differ. kppp worked in Kubu 8 thru 10.04 with several SIM bearing modems including model you have. Kubu 9 & 10 work with Knetworkmanager & several SIM bearing modems. Eric From valtermura at gmail.com Sun May 16 16:18:39 2010 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 18:18:39 +0200 Subject: Nepomuk/Strigi In-Reply-To: <201005161206.27488.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201005161206.27488.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <201005161818.39602.valtermura@gmail.com> domenica 16 maggio 2010 Mark Greenwood ha scritto: > So, I've got this Nepomuk/Strigi thing running which I believe to be some > kind of integrated desktop search and metadata handler, which I would find > really useful. The googling I've done suggests that it integrates with > Dolphin to allow me to tag and rate files. Can anybody tell me how this > works? I can't find any options for tagging or rating, or indeed > searching. Where should I look? This could be useful: http://nepomuk.kde.org/node/2 and http://strigi.sourceforge.net/?q=features Regards, -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Sun May 16 16:33:42 2010 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (William Hamra) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 19:33:42 +0300 Subject: Nepomuk/Strigi In-Reply-To: <201005161440.06905.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201005161206.27488.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> <201005161440.06905.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <4BF01E66.4030103@gmail.com> On 05/16/2010 04:40 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > On Sunday 16 May 2010 14:04:39 Jim MacLeod wrote: >> Mark Greenwood wrote: >> >>> So, I've got this Nepomuk/Strigi thing running which I believe to be some >>> kind of integrated desktop search and metadata handler, which I would find >>> really useful. The googling I've done suggests that it integrates with >>> Dolphin to allow me to tag and rate files. Can anybody tell me how this >>> works? I can't find any options for tagging or rating, or indeed >>> searching. Where should I look? >>> >> At the simplest level, example - with Dolphin open a folder with .jpg files >> in it. >> Press F11 to open the Information panel. As you highlight and/or select a >> file it will give you options to tag/comment your pictures. >> >> Search - just click on the empty Search toolbar and go from there >> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Mark >> HTH >> Jim >> > > Thanks both, that's allowed me to tag and rate and search on tags. But.. I'm reading that strigi is supposed to index file contents - like ID3 tags from MP3s and EXIF data from JPEGs etc. But I can't find a way to search this data, as the Search toolbar in Dolphin only allows searching on tags, size, comment, or rating. I'd like to search for, for example, all MP3s with 'Bayou' in the title. Is there another application that I'm missing? > > Thanks again, > > Mark > not sure if this really works, never tried it, but in dolphin, go to: tools --> find files in the new window that opens, click the second tab "contents". there are fields for meta data. hover the mouse over the fields to get an idea. hope this helps :) -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: w_hamra1987.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 134 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From claydoh at midmaine.com Sun May 16 18:33:48 2010 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 14:33:48 -0400 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <764754.87384.qm@web114603.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <764754.87384.qm@web114603.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201005161433.49308.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Sunday, May 16, 2010 01:39:56 pm John Casperson wrote: > I have repeatedly tried to register for the Kubuntu forums and do not > succeed. The final question of "The answer is Yes" makes no sense. Are > there any suggestions on getting registered? > Thanks, > John the new guy lol the answer you need to enter is 'yes' in the box. Anti-bot registrations are annoying, but unfortunately these are necessary as there have been tons of spam/porn bots hitting KFN recently so we have had to take these measures. I will contact the forum admin and see about changing that question or clarifying it a little. Also please note that kubuntuforums.net is not connected in any way to Ubuntu/Canonical or this list, which might mean I should also look at having a 'contact us' button or something more obvious to assist in situations like this Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 16 20:00:00 2010 From: captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 21:00:00 +0100 Subject: Nepomuk/Strigi In-Reply-To: <4BF01E66.4030103@gmail.com> References: <201005161206.27488.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> <201005161440.06905.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> <4BF01E66.4030103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201005162100.00506.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> On Sunday 16 May 2010 17:33:42 William Hamra wrote: > On 05/16/2010 04:40 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > > On Sunday 16 May 2010 14:04:39 Jim MacLeod wrote: > >> Mark Greenwood wrote: > >> > >>> So, I've got this Nepomuk/Strigi thing running which I believe to be some > >>> kind of integrated desktop search and metadata handler, which I would find > >>> really useful. The googling I've done suggests that it integrates with > >>> Dolphin to allow me to tag and rate files. Can anybody tell me how this > >>> works? I can't find any options for tagging or rating, or indeed > >>> searching. Where should I look? > >>> > >> At the simplest level, example - with Dolphin open a folder with .jpg files > >> in it. > >> Press F11 to open the Information panel. As you highlight and/or select a > >> file it will give you options to tag/comment your pictures. > >> > >> Search - just click on the empty Search toolbar and go from there > >> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Mark > >> HTH > >> Jim > >> > > > > Thanks both, that's allowed me to tag and rate and search on tags. But.. I'm reading that strigi is supposed to index file contents - like ID3 tags from MP3s and EXIF data from JPEGs etc. But I can't find a way to search this data, as the Search toolbar in Dolphin only allows searching on tags, size, comment, or rating. I'd like to search for, for example, all MP3s with 'Bayou' in the title. Is there another application that I'm missing? > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Mark > > > > not sure if this really works, never tried it, but in dolphin, go to: > tools --> find files > > in the new window that opens, click the second tab "contents". > there are fields for meta data. hover the mouse over the fields to get > an idea. hope this helps :) I'd never tried it either. I can confirm that it doesn't work :) I think perhaps Strigi isn't quite finished. Thanks, Mark > > From magick.crow at gmail.com Sun May 16 20:01:29 2010 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 22:01:29 +0200 Subject: Drop out with 1080p file Message-ID: I am getting drop outs with this file, especially in the bit with the dog and the man walking through the long grass. Is this due to my amd x2 64 cpu, my nvidia geforce 7600 gs video card or maybe KDE or the something else? What do I need to get it to work? 4GB ram btw. Running it with 10.04 and the 195.36.15 driver. Playback with VLC. Thanks! I Am Legend - Theatrical Trailer Synopsis: Robert Neville (Will Smith) is a brilliant scientist, but even he could not contain the terrible virus that was unstoppable, incurable, and man-made. Somehow immune, Neville is now the last human survivor in what is left of New York City and maybe the world. For three years, Neville has faithfully sent out daily radio messages, desperate to find any other survivors who might be out there. But he is not alone. Mutant victims of the plague-The Infected-lurk in the shadows...watching Neville's every move...waiting for him to make a fatal mistake. Perhaps mankind's last, best hope, Neville is driven by only one remaining mission: to find a way to reverse the effects of the virus using his own immune blood. But he knows he is outnumbered...and quickly running out of time. Original Video properties: Resolution: 1080p (1920x816) FPS: 23.976 (NTSC) Video Codec: H.264 Encoding Codec Download: http://www.divx-digest.com/software/x264.html Playback Codec Download: http://www.divx-digest.com/software/ffdshow.html Trailer Resolution: 1080p (1920x816), Blu-ray MeGUI Profile Audio Codec: AAC LC Resolution: 5.1, 48 kHz, VBR 256 Kbps I am trying to play this clip but am getting drop outs, especially when the dog and the man walk through the long grass. Is this due to my AMD 64 x2 CPU, my nvidia 185 driver fr Trailer Size: 121 MB Converted to H.264 using MeGUI: http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/MeGUI_H.264_Conversion_Guide_page1.html Playback instructions: http://www.h264info.com/playh264.html Copyright : 2007, Warner Bros. -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://bespin.org/~douglas/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massagen Arbeit in Gelsenkirchen Buer http://bespin.org/~douglas/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 16 21:05:53 2010 From: captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 22:05:53 +0100 Subject: Drop out with 1080p file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201005162205.53890.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> On Sunday 16 May 2010 21:01:29 Knapp wrote: > I am getting drop outs with this file, especially in the bit with the > dog and the man walking through the long grass. > Is this due to my amd x2 64 cpu, my nvidia geforce 7600 gs video card > or maybe KDE or the something else? What do I need to get it to work? > 4GB ram btw. Running it with 10.04 and the 195.36.15 driver. Playback > with VLC. That setup, especially with nvidia grpahics, should give you excellent playback performance - however, ubuntu forgot to install the vdpau driver that makes this happen. sudo apt-get install libvdpau1 You may also have to enable vdpau playback in VLC, if VLC supports it, I don't know - I always use SMPlayer. Mark > > Thanks! > > I Am Legend - Theatrical Trailer > > Synopsis: Robert Neville (Will Smith) is a brilliant scientist, but > even he could not contain the terrible virus that was unstoppable, > incurable, and man-made. Somehow immune, Neville is now the last human > survivor in what is left of New York City and maybe the world. For > three years, Neville has faithfully sent out daily radio messages, > desperate to find any other survivors who might be out there. But he > is not alone. Mutant victims of the plague-The Infected-lurk in the > shadows...watching Neville's every move...waiting for him to make a > fatal mistake. Perhaps mankind's last, best hope, Neville is driven by > only one remaining mission: to find a way to reverse the effects of > the virus using his own immune blood. But he knows he is > outnumbered...and quickly running out of time. > > Original Video properties: > Resolution: 1080p (1920x816) > FPS: 23.976 (NTSC) > > Video Codec: H.264 > Encoding Codec Download: http://www.divx-digest.com/software/x264.html > Playback Codec Download: http://www.divx-digest.com/software/ffdshow.html > > Trailer Resolution: 1080p (1920x816), Blu-ray MeGUI Profile > > Audio Codec: AAC LC > Resolution: 5.1, 48 kHz, VBR 256 Kbps > I am trying to play this clip but am getting drop outs, especially > when the dog and the man walk through the long grass. > Is this due to my AMD 64 x2 CPU, my nvidia 185 driver fr > > > Trailer Size: 121 MB > > > Converted to H.264 using MeGUI: > > http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/MeGUI_H.264_Conversion_Guide_page1.html > > > Playback instructions: > > http://www.h264info.com/playh264.html > > Copyright : 2007, Warner Bros. > > From basroufs at gmail.com Sun May 16 21:08:49 2010 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 23:08:49 +0200 Subject: How best to activate a mobile internet modem/ SIM card @ Kubuntu Karmic? In-Reply-To: <4BEFAE34.80004@gmail.com> References: <201005151641.14126.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> <201005151806.18963.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> <4BEFAE34.80004@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Sinclair Your feedback seems quite useful. I already intended to soon install Lucid. For now, 2 question remain. > Second, remove the PIN using a phone. Explain, please! The "PIN" is one of the codes given to me by the mobile phone company for the internet SIM card... How could I "remove" it? > > Kppp must be run as "kdesudo kppp" or you get headaches, I made a > shortcut myself. Could you briefly explain how to make such a "shortcut"? Thanks, respectfully yours, Bas. From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Mon May 17 02:32:04 2010 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 03:32:04 +0100 Subject: USB problems Message-ID: <4BF0AAA4.2020203@tiscali.co.uk> Since I have upgraded to Lucid I have been experiencing problems with my USB mouse. It's an optical mouse and the light goes out at random intervals and the cursor locks out. During these times, a 'lsusb' shows my hubs but neither the mouse or the printer (which is also a USB device). I've tried googling but my google-foo seems to have deserted me... Has anyone else been having similar problems? Any fix? -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From rrumberger at web.de Mon May 17 02:52:19 2010 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 04:52:19 +0200 Subject: USB problems In-Reply-To: <4BF0AAA4.2020203@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4BF0AAA4.2020203@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <201005170452.21862.rrumberger@web.de> On Monday 17 May 2010, Wulfy wrote: > Since I have upgraded to Lucid I have been experiencing problems > with my USB mouse. It's an optical mouse and the light goes out > at random intervals and the cursor locks out. During these > times, a 'lsusb' shows my hubs but neither the mouse or the > printer (which is also a USB device). I've tried googling but my > google-foo seems to have deserted me... > > Has anyone else been having similar problems? Any fix? Assuming neither the mouse nor the printer are wireless: Are you sure you didn't recently drop the machine/hub or something? It sounds like a loose contact to me or alternatively a power issue with the hub... Does the Hub's power supply smell strange? Does using a different hub help? Does connecting the hub to a different USB port on the machine help? Personally, unless other people with a similar machine experience similar problems, I'd go for a hardware defect. You might want to check the output of dmesg and the contents of /var/log/messages to see what the kernel thinks is happening. --Reinhold From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon May 17 04:53:49 2010 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 06:53:49 +0200 Subject: How best to activate a mobile internet modem/ SIM card @ Kubuntu Karmic? In-Reply-To: References: <201005151641.14126.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> <201005151806.18963.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> <4BEFAE34.80004@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BF0CBDD.7020803@gmail.com> Bas Roufs wrote: > Hello Sinclair > > Your feedback seems quite useful. I already intended to soon install Lucid. > For now, 2 question remain. > >> Second, remove the PIN using a phone. > > Explain, please! > The "PIN" is one of the codes given to me by the mobile phone company > for the internet SIM card... How could I "remove" it? > >> Kppp must be run as "kdesudo kppp" or you get headaches, I made a >> shortcut myself. > > Could you briefly explain how to make such a "shortcut"? > > Thanks, respectfully yours, > > Bas. > Put the sim-card in a phone and use the normal phone menus to remove the PIN. As for the second question, in the Desktop Folder view right-click and create a "link to application" and set the command to "kdesudo kppp". You can also scout around for a package for UMTSMON, I dont remember where I found it. The application works but I find I get more control with Kppp. As for Networkmanager (whether gnome or kde) it seems to sometimes "see" the card and sometimes not. In any way I have never managed to make it work. From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon May 17 06:43:57 2010 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 08:43:57 +0200 Subject: Drop out with 1080p file In-Reply-To: <201005162205.53890.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201005162205.53890.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > On Sunday 16 May 2010 21:01:29 Knapp wrote: >> I am getting drop outs with this file, especially in the bit with the >> dog and the man walking through the long grass. >> Is this due to my amd x2 64 cpu, my nvidia geforce 7600 gs video card >> or maybe KDE or the something else? What do I need to get it to work? >> 4GB ram btw. Running it with 10.04 and the 195.36.15 driver. Playback >> with VLC. > > That setup, especially with nvidia grpahics, should give you excellent playback performance - however, ubuntu forgot to install the vdpau driver that makes this happen. > > sudo apt-get install libvdpau1 > > You may also have to enable vdpau playback in VLC, if VLC supports it, I don't know - I always use SMPlayer. > > Mark It would seem that I have it installed but it does not work with VLC that comes with Ubuntu but with the RC it might work, If I read that right. http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=53928&f=13 It would seem that it should work with MPlayer but it is even worse on my system. Perhaps I need to set it up more? douglas4 at frog:~/Blender/blender$ ffmpeg -formats | grep vdpau FFmpeg version SVN-r0.5.1-4:0.5.1-1ubuntu1, Copyright (c) 2000-2009 Fabrice Bellard, et al. configuration: --extra-version=4:0.5.1-1ubuntu1 --prefix=/usr --enable-avfilter --enable-avfilter-lavf --enable-vdpau --enable-bzlib --enable-libgsm --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-pthreads --enable-zlib --disable-stripping --disable-vhook --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-gpl --enable-postproc --enable-swscale --enable-x11grab --enable-libdc1394 --enable-shared --disable-static libavutil 49.15. 0 / 49.15. 0 libavcodec 52.20. 1 / 52.20. 1 libavformat 52.31. 0 / 52.31. 0 libavdevice 52. 1. 0 / 52. 1. 0 libavfilter 0. 4. 0 / 0. 4. 0 libswscale 0. 7. 1 / 0. 7. 1 libpostproc 51. 2. 0 / 51. 2. 0 built on Mar 4 2010 12:41:55, gcc: 4.4.3 D V D h264_vdpau H.264 / AVC / MPEG-4 AVC / MPEG-4 part 10 (VDPAU acceleration) D V DT mpeg1video_vdpau MPEG-1 video (VDPAU acceleration) D V DT mpegvideo_vdpau MPEG-1/2 video (VDPAU acceleration) D V D vc1_vdpau SMPTE VC-1 VDPAU D V D wmv3_vdpau Windows Media Video 9 VDPAU douglas4 at frog:~/Blender/blender$ -- Douglas E Knapp Massagen Arbeit in Gelsenkirchen Buer http://bespin.org/~douglas/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon May 17 06:59:59 2010 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 09:59:59 +0300 Subject: My experience with Kontact, Addressbook and Akonadi In-Reply-To: <201005151410.24030.dave@thefletchers.net> References: <201005081739.31240.valtermura@gmail.com> <201005140813.51374.valtermura@gmail.com> <201005151301.19901.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> <201005151410.24030.dave@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: On 15 May 2010 16:10, David Fletcher wrote: > Not being a developer, I guess I can't criticise their policies, but what does > seem obvious is that if we want Linux to improve the world of personal > computing then the user base needs to increase as quickly as possible, in > order to, e.g. put pressure on hardware vendors to release driver > specifications. Judging purely on what I've been reading on this list over > the past few months, Kubuntu is not presently in a position to achieve this. > Dave, if you want to help with pressuring hardware vendors to support Linux, would you like to join a "Write To Them" program, in which I assign users to write to a different vendor each week? The idea is that the vendor will get a constant stream of requests from different Linux users. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon May 17 07:19:58 2010 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 09:19:58 +0200 Subject: Drop out with 1080p file In-Reply-To: References: <201005162205.53890.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: I installed smplayer and it compains on startup that my mplayer is out of date. How do I fix that in Kubuntu? Is there a repo or something for more current stuff? From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Mon May 17 11:37:55 2010 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (William Hamra) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 14:37:55 +0300 Subject: nvidia trouble and breaking in a supposedly LTS release Message-ID: <4BF12A93.9020001@gmail.com> so after my fresh installation of lucid last week, everything was working like a charm, i had nvidia-current installed, compositing working great, i still am pissed i cant install manually from nvidia's website, but that's fine, as long as ubuntu keep up with the drivers and provide the latest driver. so far so good, except for the nagging popup that i have some updates, which i was delaying since i had better uses for the bandwidth, mainly setting up all my *important* programs, from firefox, to flash, java, thunderbird, vlc, various codecs and amsn. 24 hours ago, i decided to update. 100+ megabytes of data got downloaded, and few hours later, the installation started, it included a new kernel, and new nvidia drivers, all went fine. all until reboot. no X, no nvidia modules loaded, no nothing. over the past 16 hours(yes, i haven't slept yet in over 35 hours), i have been trying to fix this, with a combination of dropping to root shells using recovery option, using alternate CD to get a chrooted root shell, and normal booting. i assumed it was the kernel causing this, doing an lsmod showed that ati_agp was loaded as agp_gart, which was just wrong, my motherboard chipset and internal VGA is ATI, but that's disabled since i have a nvidia geforce 8500 installed and plugged to screen. nvidia's drivers still aren't working, and even worse, if a xorg.conf configured for nvidia exists, or there's no xorg.conf at all, the screen goes off as soon as kdm starts, which means i have to blindly go to TTY1, and hit ctrl-alt-del to reboot, and use the alternate CD, because even the recovery option would give the same result, which makes no sense, it's text-mode, why would it do that? i suspect it has to do something with plymouth, but i cant be fessed to mess with that now. eventually, i started checking aptitude changelog for all packages i suspect to have problems, i notice alberto milano patched something in nvidia that deals with the auto-configuration and selection of a VGA, and realized that could be it. i have no idea why he is doing this now, but i find his past work, namely the Envy driver installer far better and stable than his new work for jockey, he could have delayed that to 10.10, but no, knowing canonical and ubuntu too well now, they barely care about stability anymore. i dont believe for one, that they dont have a nvidia machine to test on, this is an LTS release, how can they approve such an update AFTER the system was released?? i rolled back to the previous nvidia-current package, for some reason, dkms isnot configuring it for the new kernel, but that's fine, i am using the old one now, waiting for some new updates, hopefully sometime this year.... sorry for the rant, but this is really unacceptable for a *stable* release. -- Willy K. 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Regards - Goh Lip From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Mon May 17 14:36:02 2010 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (William Hamra) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 17:36:02 +0300 Subject: nvidia trouble and breaking in a supposedly LTS release In-Reply-To: <4BF151B4.5000102@gmx.com> References: <4BF12A93.9020001@gmail.com> <4BF151B4.5000102@gmx.com> Message-ID: <4BF15452.4040004@gmail.com> On 05/17/2010 05:24 PM, Goh Lip wrote: > On 05/17/2010 07:37 PM, William Hamra wrote: >> so after my fresh installation of lucid last week, everything was >> working like a charm, i had nvidia-current installed, compositing >> working great, i still am pissed i cant install manually from nvidia's >> website, but that's fine, as long as ubuntu keep up with the drivers and >> provide the latest driver. so far so good, except for the nagging popup >> that i have some updates, which i was delaying since i had better uses >> for the bandwidth, mainly setting up all my *important* programs, from >> firefox, to flash, java, thunderbird, vlc, various codecs and amsn. >> 24 hours ago, i decided to update. 100+ megabytes of data got >> downloaded, and few hours later, the installation started, it included a >> new kernel, and new nvidia drivers, all went fine. all until reboot. >> no X, no nvidia modules loaded, no nothing. over the past 16 hours(yes, >> i haven't slept yet in over 35 hours), i have been trying to fix this, >> with a combination of dropping to root shells using recovery option, >> using alternate CD to get a chrooted root shell, and normal booting. i >> assumed it was the kernel causing this, doing an lsmod showed that >> ati_agp was loaded as agp_gart, which was just wrong, my motherboard >> chipset and internal VGA is ATI, but that's disabled since i have a >> nvidia geforce 8500 installed and plugged to screen. nvidia's drivers >> still aren't working, and even worse, if a xorg.conf configured for >> nvidia exists, or there's no xorg.conf at all, the screen goes off as >> soon as kdm starts, which means i have to blindly go to TTY1, and hit >> ctrl-alt-del to reboot, and use the alternate CD, because even the >> recovery option would give the same result, which makes no sense, it's >> text-mode, why would it do that? i suspect it has to do something with >> plymouth, but i cant be fessed to mess with that now. >> eventually, i started checking aptitude changelog for all packages i >> suspect to have problems, i notice alberto milano patched something in >> nvidia that deals with the auto-configuration and selection of a VGA, >> and realized that could be it. i have no idea why he is doing this now, >> but i find his past work, namely the Envy driver installer far better >> and stable than his new work for jockey, he could have delayed that to >> 10.10, but no, knowing canonical and ubuntu too well now, they barely >> care about stability anymore. i dont believe for one, that they dont >> have a nvidia machine to test on, this is an LTS release, how can they >> approve such an update AFTER the system was released?? >> i rolled back to the previous nvidia-current package, for some reason, >> dkms isnot configuring it for the new kernel, but that's fine, i am >> using the old one now, waiting for some new updates, hopefully sometime >> this year.... >> sorry for the rant, but this is really unacceptable for a *stable* release. >> >> > > > Not sure if this would help, but is xserver-xorg-video-nouveau installed? > > Regards - Goh Lip > yup, i have xserver-xorg-video-all which depends on nouveau and many others. -- Willy K. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From g.lip at gmx.com Mon May 17 15:24:14 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 23:24:14 +0800 Subject: nvidia trouble and breaking in a supposedly LTS release In-Reply-To: <4BF15452.4040004@gmail.com> References: <4BF12A93.9020001@gmail.com> <4BF151B4.5000102@gmx.com> <4BF15452.4040004@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BF15F9E.6090207@gmx.com> On 05/17/2010 10:36 PM, William Hamra wrote: > On 05/17/2010 05:24 PM, Goh Lip wrote: >> On 05/17/2010 07:37 PM, William Hamra wrote: >>> so after my fresh installation of lucid last week, everything was >>> working like a charm, i had nvidia-current installed, compositing >>> working great, i still am pissed i cant install manually from nvidia's >>> website, but that's fine, as long as ubuntu keep up with the drivers and >>> provide the latest driver. so far so good, except for the nagging popup >>> that i have some updates, which i was delaying since i had better uses >>> for the bandwidth, mainly setting up all my *important* programs, from >>> firefox, to flash, java, thunderbird, vlc, various codecs and amsn. >>> 24 hours ago, i decided to update. 100+ megabytes of data got >>> downloaded, and few hours later, the installation started, it included a >>> new kernel, and new nvidia drivers, all went fine. all until reboot. >>> no X, no nvidia modules loaded, no nothing. over the past 16 hours(yes, >>> i haven't slept yet in over 35 hours), i have been trying to fix this, >>> with a combination of dropping to root shells using recovery option, >>> using alternate CD to get a chrooted root shell, and normal booting. i >>> assumed it was the kernel causing this, doing an lsmod showed that >>> ati_agp was loaded as agp_gart, which was just wrong, my motherboard >>> chipset and internal VGA is ATI, but that's disabled since i have a >>> nvidia geforce 8500 installed and plugged to screen. nvidia's drivers >>> still aren't working, and even worse, if a xorg.conf configured for >>> nvidia exists, or there's no xorg.conf at all, the screen goes off as >>> soon as kdm starts, which means i have to blindly go to TTY1, and hit >>> ctrl-alt-del to reboot, and use the alternate CD, because even the >>> recovery option would give the same result, which makes no sense, it's >>> text-mode, why would it do that? i suspect it has to do something with >>> plymouth, but i cant be fessed to mess with that now. >>> eventually, i started checking aptitude changelog for all packages i >>> suspect to have problems, i notice alberto milano patched something in >>> nvidia that deals with the auto-configuration and selection of a VGA, >>> and realized that could be it. i have no idea why he is doing this now, >>> but i find his past work, namely the Envy driver installer far better >>> and stable than his new work for jockey, he could have delayed that to >>> 10.10, but no, knowing canonical and ubuntu too well now, they barely >>> care about stability anymore. i dont believe for one, that they dont >>> have a nvidia machine to test on, this is an LTS release, how can they >>> approve such an update AFTER the system was released?? >>> i rolled back to the previous nvidia-current package, for some reason, >>> dkms isnot configuring it for the new kernel, but that's fine, i am >>> using the old one now, waiting for some new updates, hopefully sometime >>> this year.... >>> sorry for the rant, but this is really unacceptable for a *stable* release. >>> >>> >> >> >> Not sure if this would help, but is xserver-xorg-video-nouveau installed? >> >> Regards - Goh Lip >> > yup, i have xserver-xorg-video-all which depends on nouveau and many others. > > Okay, since you also manually installed from nvidia website, maybe then try sudo update-alternatives --config xserver-xorg (or) sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg And it may help if you boot the kernel without the 'quiet' and 'splash'. If it boots okay, then uninstall 'plymouth'; it's just eye-candy. If above doesn't help, then sorry, Willy, I can't think of anything else. Good luck - Goh Lip -- ps: if this is a duplicate message, apologies to all. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Mon May 17 15:54:14 2010 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 11:54:14 -0400 Subject: nvidia trouble and breaking in a supposedly LTS release In-Reply-To: <4BF12A93.9020001@gmail.com> References: <4BF12A93.9020001@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201005171154.14251.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Monday 17 May 2010, William Hamra wrote: >so after my fresh installation of lucid last week, everything was >working like a charm, i had nvidia-current installed, compositing >working great, i still am pissed i cant install manually from nvidia's >website, but that's fine, as long as ubuntu keep up with the drivers and >provide the latest driver. so far so good, except for the nagging popup >that i have some updates, which i was delaying since i had better uses >for the bandwidth, mainly setting up all my *important* programs, from >firefox, to flash, java, thunderbird, vlc, various codecs and amsn. >24 hours ago, i decided to update. 100+ megabytes of data got >downloaded, and few hours later, the installation started, it included a >new kernel, and new nvidia drivers, all went fine. all until reboot. >no X, no nvidia modules loaded, no nothing. over the past 16 hours(yes, >i haven't slept yet in over 35 hours), i have been trying to fix this, >with a combination of dropping to root shells using recovery option, >using alternate CD to get a chrooted root shell, and normal booting. i >assumed it was the kernel causing this, doing an lsmod showed that >ati_agp was loaded as agp_gart, which was just wrong, my motherboard >chipset and internal VGA is ATI, but that's disabled since i have a >nvidia geforce 8500 installed and plugged to screen. nvidia's drivers >still aren't working, and even worse, if a xorg.conf configured for >nvidia exists, or there's no xorg.conf at all, the screen goes off as >soon as kdm starts, which means i have to blindly go to TTY1, and hit >ctrl-alt-del to reboot, and use the alternate CD, because even the >recovery option would give the same result, which makes no sense, it's >text-mode, why would it do that? i suspect it has to do something with >plymouth, but i cant be fessed to mess with that now. >eventually, i started checking aptitude changelog for all packages i >suspect to have problems, i notice alberto milano patched something in >nvidia that deals with the auto-configuration and selection of a VGA, >and realized that could be it. i have no idea why he is doing this now, >but i find his past work, namely the Envy driver installer far better >and stable than his new work for jockey, he could have delayed that to >10.10, but no, knowing canonical and ubuntu too well now, they barely >care about stability anymore. i dont believe for one, that they dont >have a nvidia machine to test on, this is an LTS release, how can they >approve such an update AFTER the system was released?? >i rolled back to the previous nvidia-current package, for some reason, >dkms isnot configuring it for the new kernel, but that's fine, i am >using the old one now, waiting for some new updates, hopefully sometime >this year.... >sorry for the rant, but this is really unacceptable for a *stable* release. I would like to offer a counter rant here Willy. Installing any card makers binary blob, particularly the nvidia one which has a record of causing nearly 80% of the BSOD's on windows, into an LTS system is equivalent to Daniels being thrown in the lions den. Only if you were Daniel, would that be construed as safe. Since neither of us is Daniel, well... There are instances where a well working system really doesn't work so well, even if it is stable. I have about half ati & half nvidia cards in my various boxes, and in order for one of them to actually do its job, which is running a pile of stepper motors attached to my milling machine, and steppers need the steadiest heartbeat to run at anywhere near their maximum speed. I was having stalls and lockups at any attempted speed about about 2"/minute moves, but nuking all the nvidia stuff and going back to the nv driver allowed me to run at around 11"/minute. But the mind blower was that when I switched it to the vesa driver, I could reliably move at over 34 IPM. It turns out the nv driver ran 'better', only by hogging the interrupts, which the vesa driver apparently does not. And the nvidia driver, by later testing, turned out to be locking out the IRQ's for large fractions of a second, and you cannot expect a stepper turning 400 rpm, to stop in its tracks, and restart back at full speed without a decel/accel ramp so the motor stays locked to the steps. Good figures from glxgears is nice for bragging rights, but the real question is, will it do the job? For this particular job, only the vesa driver works well. And should I have a problem, dmesg doesn't bitch that my kernel is tainted. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) For every credibility gap, there is a gullibility fill. -- R. Clopton From captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk Mon May 17 18:32:01 2010 From: captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk (Mark Greenwood) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:32:01 +0100 Subject: Drop out with 1080p file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201005171932.01554.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> On Monday 17 May 2010 08:19:58 Knapp wrote: > I installed smplayer and it compains on startup that my mplayer is out > of date. How do I fix that in Kubuntu? Is there a repo or something > for more current stuff? > > Just ignore that error, it works anyway. Go to SMPlayer's Preferences window, and on the Video tab choose vdpau as the Output driver. I hope somebody updates mplayer soon, but there don't seem to be any issues with it so far. Mark From captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk Mon May 17 18:36:45 2010 From: captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk (Mark Greenwood) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:36:45 +0100 Subject: nvidia trouble and breaking in a supposedly LTS release In-Reply-To: <4BF151B4.5000102@gmx.com> References: <4BF12A93.9020001@gmail.com> <4BF151B4.5000102@gmx.com> Message-ID: <201005171936.45605.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> On Monday 17 May 2010 15:24:52 Goh Lip wrote: > On 05/17/2010 07:37 PM, William Hamra wrote: > > so after my fresh installation of lucid last week, everything was > > working like a charm, i had nvidia-current installed, compositing > > working great, i still am pissed i cant install manually from nvidia's > > website, but that's fine, as long as ubuntu keep up with the drivers and > > provide the latest driver. so far so good, except for the nagging popup > > that i have some updates, which i was delaying since i had better uses > > for the bandwidth, mainly setting up all my *important* programs, from > > firefox, to flash, java, thunderbird, vlc, various codecs and amsn. > > 24 hours ago, i decided to update. 100+ megabytes of data got > > downloaded, and few hours later, the installation started, it included a > > new kernel, and new nvidia drivers, all went fine. all until reboot. > > no X, no nvidia modules loaded, no nothing. over the past 16 hours(yes, > > i haven't slept yet in over 35 hours), i have been trying to fix this, > > with a combination of dropping to root shells using recovery option, > > using alternate CD to get a chrooted root shell, and normal booting. i > > assumed it was the kernel causing this, doing an lsmod showed that > > ati_agp was loaded as agp_gart, which was just wrong, my motherboard > > chipset and internal VGA is ATI, but that's disabled since i have a > > nvidia geforce 8500 installed and plugged to screen. nvidia's drivers > > still aren't working, and even worse, if a xorg.conf configured for > > nvidia exists, or there's no xorg.conf at all, the screen goes off as > > soon as kdm starts, which means i have to blindly go to TTY1, and hit > > ctrl-alt-del to reboot, and use the alternate CD, because even the > > recovery option would give the same result, which makes no sense, it's > > text-mode, why would it do that? i suspect it has to do something with > > plymouth, but i cant be fessed to mess with that now. > > eventually, i started checking aptitude changelog for all packages i > > suspect to have problems, i notice alberto milano patched something in > > nvidia that deals with the auto-configuration and selection of a VGA, > > and realized that could be it. i have no idea why he is doing this now, > > but i find his past work, namely the Envy driver installer far better > > and stable than his new work for jockey, he could have delayed that to > > 10.10, but no, knowing canonical and ubuntu too well now, they barely > > care about stability anymore. i dont believe for one, that they dont > > have a nvidia machine to test on, this is an LTS release, how can they > > approve such an update AFTER the system was released?? > > i rolled back to the previous nvidia-current package, for some reason, > > dkms isnot configuring it for the new kernel, but that's fine, i am > > using the old one now, waiting for some new updates, hopefully sometime > > this year.... > > sorry for the rant, but this is really unacceptable for a *stable* release. > > > > > > > Not sure if this would help, but is xserver-xorg-video-nouveau installed? > > Regards - Goh Lip > > You fell fowl of an installer bug. Did you install from an alternate CD? I can't believe they haven't fixed this yet. You need to install the package linux-headers-generic (and get some sleep ;-) ). And possibly you will have to do this every time a new kernel gets released... This has been reported but it seems that bugs that make your system unuseable are less important than ones that affect the looks of the bootup logo...... sigh. Mark From captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk Mon May 17 18:51:22 2010 From: captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk (Mark Greenwood) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:51:22 +0100 Subject: nvidia trouble and breaking in a supposedly LTS release In-Reply-To: <201005171154.14251.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <4BF12A93.9020001@gmail.com> <201005171154.14251.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <201005171951.22917.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> On Monday 17 May 2010 16:54:14 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 17 May 2010, William Hamra wrote: > >so after my fresh installation of lucid last week, everything was > >working like a charm, i had nvidia-current installed, compositing > >working great, i still am pissed i cant install manually from nvidia's > >website, but that's fine, as long as ubuntu keep up with the drivers and > >provide the latest driver. so far so good, except for the nagging popup > >that i have some updates, which i was delaying since i had better uses > >for the bandwidth, mainly setting up all my *important* programs, from > >firefox, to flash, java, thunderbird, vlc, various codecs and amsn. > >24 hours ago, i decided to update. 100+ megabytes of data got > >downloaded, and few hours later, the installation started, it included a > >new kernel, and new nvidia drivers, all went fine. all until reboot. > >no X, no nvidia modules loaded, no nothing. over the past 16 hours(yes, > >i haven't slept yet in over 35 hours), i have been trying to fix this, > >with a combination of dropping to root shells using recovery option, > >using alternate CD to get a chrooted root shell, and normal booting. i > >assumed it was the kernel causing this, doing an lsmod showed that > >ati_agp was loaded as agp_gart, which was just wrong, my motherboard > >chipset and internal VGA is ATI, but that's disabled since i have a > >nvidia geforce 8500 installed and plugged to screen. nvidia's drivers > >still aren't working, and even worse, if a xorg.conf configured for > >nvidia exists, or there's no xorg.conf at all, the screen goes off as > >soon as kdm starts, which means i have to blindly go to TTY1, and hit > >ctrl-alt-del to reboot, and use the alternate CD, because even the > >recovery option would give the same result, which makes no sense, it's > >text-mode, why would it do that? i suspect it has to do something with > >plymouth, but i cant be fessed to mess with that now. > >eventually, i started checking aptitude changelog for all packages i > >suspect to have problems, i notice alberto milano patched something in > >nvidia that deals with the auto-configuration and selection of a VGA, > >and realized that could be it. i have no idea why he is doing this now, > >but i find his past work, namely the Envy driver installer far better > >and stable than his new work for jockey, he could have delayed that to > >10.10, but no, knowing canonical and ubuntu too well now, they barely > >care about stability anymore. i dont believe for one, that they dont > >have a nvidia machine to test on, this is an LTS release, how can they > >approve such an update AFTER the system was released?? > >i rolled back to the previous nvidia-current package, for some reason, > >dkms isnot configuring it for the new kernel, but that's fine, i am > >using the old one now, waiting for some new updates, hopefully sometime > >this year.... > >sorry for the rant, but this is really unacceptable for a *stable* release. > > I would like to offer a counter rant here Willy. Installing any card makers > binary blob, particularly the nvidia one which has a record of causing nearly > 80% of the BSOD's on windows, into an LTS system is equivalent to Daniels > being thrown in the lions den. Only if you were Daniel, would that be > construed as safe. Since neither of us is Daniel, well... > > There are instances where a well working system really doesn't work so well, > even if it is stable. I have about half ati & half nvidia cards in my > various boxes, and in order for one of them to actually do its job, which is > running a pile of stepper motors attached to my milling machine, and steppers > need the steadiest heartbeat to run at anywhere near their maximum speed. I > was having stalls and lockups at any attempted speed about about 2"/minute > moves, but nuking all the nvidia stuff and going back to the nv driver > allowed me to run at around 11"/minute. But the mind blower was that when I > switched it to the vesa driver, I could reliably move at over 34 IPM. It > turns out the nv driver ran 'better', only by hogging the interrupts, which > the vesa driver apparently does not. And the nvidia driver, by later > testing, turned out to be locking out the IRQ's for large fractions of a > second, and you cannot expect a stepper turning 400 rpm, to stop in its > tracks, and restart back at full speed without a decel/accel ramp so the > motor stays locked to the steps. > > Good figures from glxgears is nice for bragging rights, but the real question > is, will it do the job? For this particular job, only the vesa driver works > well. And should I have a problem, dmesg doesn't bitch that my kernel is > tainted. > > OTOH I will only use nvidia graphics cards in my machines because the binary driver works exceptionally well. I have a fanless 8600GT card which overheats in 30 minutes if used with the nv driver. I have no objections to using nvidia's binary blob, as it provides the graphics performance for which I bought the card as well as the thermal control it needs. I run hard-realtime AV processing, with 2ms audio latency and the bottleneck is not the nvidia driver but the Ubuntu kernel - for which reason I always build my own kernels these days; the nvidia driver does not affect what I do one tiny bit. If you're having problems with drivers hogging interrupts this is more likely to be poor motherboard design or a low quality IO chipset (VIA, are you listening?). Indeed if your system has any components made by VIA inside it I would recommend its use as either a doorstop or as filling for your rubbish bin. Mark From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon May 17 19:53:17 2010 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 21:53:17 +0200 Subject: Drop out with 1080p file In-Reply-To: <201005171932.01554.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201005171932.01554.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > On Monday 17 May 2010 08:19:58 Knapp wrote: >> I installed smplayer and it compains on startup that my mplayer is out >> of date. How do I fix that in Kubuntu? Is there a repo or something >> for more current stuff? >> >> > Just ignore that error, it works anyway. Go to SMPlayer's Preferences window, and on the Video tab choose vdpau as the Output driver. > > I hope somebody updates mplayer soon, but there don't seem to be any issues with it so far. > > Mark I did as you suggested and now SMPlayer does not show any picture at all. It acts as if it were playing a mp3 file. So I am once again lost. :-( -- Douglas E Knapp Massagen Arbeit in Gelsenkirchen Buer http://bespin.org/~douglas/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk Mon May 17 20:16:47 2010 From: captain_bodge at yahoo.co.uk (Mark Greenwood) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 21:16:47 +0100 Subject: Drop out with 1080p file In-Reply-To: References: <201005171932.01554.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <201005172116.47625.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> On Monday 17 May 2010 20:53:17 Knapp wrote: > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Mark Greenwood > wrote: > > On Monday 17 May 2010 08:19:58 Knapp wrote: > >> I installed smplayer and it compains on startup that my mplayer is out > >> of date. How do I fix that in Kubuntu? Is there a repo or something > >> for more current stuff? > >> > >> > > Just ignore that error, it works anyway. Go to SMPlayer's Preferences window, and on the Video tab choose vdpau as the Output driver. > > > > I hope somebody updates mplayer soon, but there don't seem to be any issues with it so far. > > > > Mark > > I did as you suggested and now SMPlayer does not show any picture at > all. It acts as if it were playing a mp3 file. So I am once again > lost. :-( > Are you sure you installed libvdpau1? If you have then are you definitely running the nvidia propietary driver? If yes to both then perhaps your card doesn't support vdpau. Mark From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Mon May 17 20:19:25 2010 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 20:19:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Problem setting up printers in Lucid Message-ID: <1207119524.31575131274127565042.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> When selecting Printer Configuration in Karmic and then New Network Printer, I was presented with a list of printers on my LAN each of which had the printer model and its TCP/IP address (on our LAN it would be 10.2.92.xxx) as in: ... HP Color LaserJet 4700 (10.2.92.201) HP Color LaserJet 4700 (10.2.92.203) ... RICOH Aficio MP C2550 (10.2.92.211) RICOH Aficio MP C2550 (10.2.92.213) Canon iR C5185-H1 1.2 (10.2.92.202) Canon iR C5185-H1 1.2 (10.2.92.202) ... In Lucid, the parenthetical TCP/IP is replaced sometimes by a cryptic 6 character string in brackets. To the right is a box "Enter Device URI" with a pre-populated entry for each printer as follows. dnssd://HP%20Color%20LaserJet%204700%20%5B271B88%5D._printer._tcp.local/ (The 6 character string follows the "%5B"). There is no TCP/IP address to be found so I don't know which printer is which. I can ping the printers by their names or TCP/IP #s, but I have no way of connecting the tabular listing of printers in the new format with the TCP/IP addresses or printer names. Any ideas how to identify the printers by TCP/IP in the config list without testing each one individually until I hit on the right one? Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Mon May 17 21:00:02 2010 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (William Hamra) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 00:00:02 +0300 Subject: nvidia trouble and breaking in a supposedly LTS release In-Reply-To: <201005171951.22917.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> References: <4BF12A93.9020001@gmail.com> <201005171154.14251.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <201005171951.22917.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <4BF1AE52.3020501@gmail.com> On 05/17/2010 09:51 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > On Monday 17 May 2010 16:54:14 Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Monday 17 May 2010, William Hamra wrote: >>> so after my fresh installation of lucid last week, everything was >>> working like a charm, i had nvidia-current installed, compositing >>> working great, i still am pissed i cant install manually from nvidia's >>> website, but that's fine, as long as ubuntu keep up with the drivers and >>> provide the latest driver. so far so good, except for the nagging popup >>> that i have some updates, which i was delaying since i had better uses >>> for the bandwidth, mainly setting up all my *important* programs, from >>> firefox, to flash, java, thunderbird, vlc, various codecs and amsn. >>> 24 hours ago, i decided to update. 100+ megabytes of data got >>> downloaded, and few hours later, the installation started, it included a >>> new kernel, and new nvidia drivers, all went fine. all until reboot. >>> no X, no nvidia modules loaded, no nothing. over the past 16 hours(yes, >>> i haven't slept yet in over 35 hours), i have been trying to fix this, >>> with a combination of dropping to root shells using recovery option, >>> using alternate CD to get a chrooted root shell, and normal booting. i >>> assumed it was the kernel causing this, doing an lsmod showed that >>> ati_agp was loaded as agp_gart, which was just wrong, my motherboard >>> chipset and internal VGA is ATI, but that's disabled since i have a >>> nvidia geforce 8500 installed and plugged to screen. nvidia's drivers >>> still aren't working, and even worse, if a xorg.conf configured for >>> nvidia exists, or there's no xorg.conf at all, the screen goes off as >>> soon as kdm starts, which means i have to blindly go to TTY1, and hit >>> ctrl-alt-del to reboot, and use the alternate CD, because even the >>> recovery option would give the same result, which makes no sense, it's >>> text-mode, why would it do that? i suspect it has to do something with >>> plymouth, but i cant be fessed to mess with that now. >>> eventually, i started checking aptitude changelog for all packages i >>> suspect to have problems, i notice alberto milano patched something in >>> nvidia that deals with the auto-configuration and selection of a VGA, >>> and realized that could be it. i have no idea why he is doing this now, >>> but i find his past work, namely the Envy driver installer far better >>> and stable than his new work for jockey, he could have delayed that to >>> 10.10, but no, knowing canonical and ubuntu too well now, they barely >>> care about stability anymore. i dont believe for one, that they dont >>> have a nvidia machine to test on, this is an LTS release, how can they >>> approve such an update AFTER the system was released?? >>> i rolled back to the previous nvidia-current package, for some reason, >>> dkms isnot configuring it for the new kernel, but that's fine, i am >>> using the old one now, waiting for some new updates, hopefully sometime >>> this year.... >>> sorry for the rant, but this is really unacceptable for a *stable* release. >> >> I would like to offer a counter rant here Willy. Installing any card makers >> binary blob, particularly the nvidia one which has a record of causing nearly >> 80% of the BSOD's on windows, into an LTS system is equivalent to Daniels >> being thrown in the lions den. Only if you were Daniel, would that be >> construed as safe. Since neither of us is Daniel, well... >> >> There are instances where a well working system really doesn't work so well, >> even if it is stable. I have about half ati & half nvidia cards in my >> various boxes, and in order for one of them to actually do its job, which is >> running a pile of stepper motors attached to my milling machine, and steppers >> need the steadiest heartbeat to run at anywhere near their maximum speed. I >> was having stalls and lockups at any attempted speed about about 2"/minute >> moves, but nuking all the nvidia stuff and going back to the nv driver >> allowed me to run at around 11"/minute. But the mind blower was that when I >> switched it to the vesa driver, I could reliably move at over 34 IPM. It >> turns out the nv driver ran 'better', only by hogging the interrupts, which >> the vesa driver apparently does not. And the nvidia driver, by later >> testing, turned out to be locking out the IRQ's for large fractions of a >> second, and you cannot expect a stepper turning 400 rpm, to stop in its >> tracks, and restart back at full speed without a decel/accel ramp so the >> motor stays locked to the steps. >> >> Good figures from glxgears is nice for bragging rights, but the real question >> is, will it do the job? For this particular job, only the vesa driver works >> well. And should I have a problem, dmesg doesn't bitch that my kernel is >> tainted. >> >> > > OTOH I will only use nvidia graphics cards in my machines because the binary driver works exceptionally well. I have a fanless 8600GT card which overheats in 30 minutes if used with the nv driver. I have no objections to using nvidia's binary blob, as it provides the graphics performance for which I bought the card as well as the thermal control it needs. I run hard-realtime AV processing, with 2ms audio latency and the bottleneck is not the nvidia driver but the Ubuntu kernel - for which reason I always build my own kernels these days; the nvidia driver does not affect what I do one tiny bit. > > If you're having problems with drivers hogging interrupts this is more likely to be poor motherboard design or a low quality IO chipset (VIA, are you listening?). Indeed if your system has any components made by VIA inside it I would recommend its use as either a doorstop or as filling for your rubbish bin. > > Mark > i bought a nvidia card so i can *use* the features it has, otherwise, i would have bought some cheap 20$ card that i am sure can be configured by the flick of a finger, or hell, even stayed on the internal ATI chip and saved a lot of money. but i like nvidia, yes i do, very much. yes they provide *proprietary* drivers only, but they do their job quite well, when KDE4 was released, they sucked, few complaints, and they improved the drivers. and i would most certainly want to be able to *use* them. i like compositing, and i play some games using wine on my spare time. nv and nouveau are not bad, but they just dont cut it, i get a lot of graphical glitches on the screen, gnome seems to work a lot better with them. thanks for the tip Mark, i am amazed the kernel headers aren't installed. something should depend on them. either nvidia-current, or i think better would be dkms... still haven't figured if that was a main cause of the problem, but i'll check after rebooting, at least now i know how to fix it, if the problem re-occurred :) -- Willy K. 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The upgrade to Lucid has replaced the nvidia binary with the stupid nouveau driver which doesn't work properly (kde has the desktop display configured at 1280x1024 @ 60 Hz but the driver is running at 1280x1024 @ 50 Hz). I have now installed the nvidia binary driver via the nvidia-current package and the nvidia-glx package but the system is not using this nvidia driver. In the absence of an xorg.conf how does one force the system to use the nvida binary driver when installation of the package does not activate it (it is contentious as to whether or not installation of the package should force configure the system given that on my laptop which is using an intel graphics chip an install of Lucid from scratch on a newly formatted system installed the nvidia binary drivers for whatever reason, but it is correctly using the intel i915 driver). 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The > upgrade to Lucid has replaced the nvidia binary with the stupid nouveau > driver which doesn't work properly (kde has the desktop display > configured at 1280x1024 @ 60 Hz but the driver is running at 1280x1024 @ > 50 Hz). > I have now installed the nvidia binary driver via the nvidia-current > package and the nvidia-glx package but the system is not using this > nvidia driver. In the absence of an xorg.conf how does one force the > system to use the nvida binary driver when installation of the package > does not activate it (it is contentious as to whether or not > installation of the package should force configure the system given that > on my laptop which is using an intel graphics chip an install of Lucid > from scratch on a newly formatted system installed the nvidia binary > drivers for whatever reason, but it is correctly using the intel i915 > driver). > I have tried a sudo update-alternatives --display xserver-xorg but > it says there are no alternatives and, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh > xserver-xorg appears to do nothing. > > regards, > Steve > in a terminal, run the following: sudo nvidia-xconfig this will generate a xorg.conf file that instructs X to use "nvidia". as a precaution, make sure you have "linux-headers-generic" installed as well, so that the nvidia driver can be configured correctly. sudo aptitude install linux-headers-generic -- Willy K. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From samorris at netspace.net.au Mon May 17 21:44:09 2010 From: samorris at netspace.net.au (Steve Morris) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 07:44:09 +1000 Subject: Wrong video driver being used in Lucid In-Reply-To: <4BF1B287.8010706@gmail.com> References: <4BF1B148.5030102@netspace.net.au> <4BF1B287.8010706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BF1B8A9.1080307@netspace.net.au> On 18/05/10 07:17, William Hamra wrote: > On 05/18/2010 12:12 AM, Steve Morris wrote: > >> I have an nvidia Gforce 7600GS video card and I have "upgraded" to Lucid >> via the alternate cd (it didn't wipe my system/home directories but >> effectively installed everything else from scratch even though using the >> expert mode) from Karmic where I was using the nvidia binary driver. The >> upgrade to Lucid has replaced the nvidia binary with the stupid nouveau >> driver which doesn't work properly (kde has the desktop display >> configured at 1280x1024 @ 60 Hz but the driver is running at 1280x1024 @ >> 50 Hz). >> I have now installed the nvidia binary driver via the nvidia-current >> package and the nvidia-glx package but the system is not using this >> nvidia driver. In the absence of an xorg.conf how does one force the >> system to use the nvida binary driver when installation of the package >> does not activate it (it is contentious as to whether or not >> installation of the package should force configure the system given that >> on my laptop which is using an intel graphics chip an install of Lucid >> from scratch on a newly formatted system installed the nvidia binary >> drivers for whatever reason, but it is correctly using the intel i915 >> driver). >> I have tried a sudo update-alternatives --display xserver-xorg but >> it says there are no alternatives and, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh >> xserver-xorg appears to do nothing. >> >> regards, >> Steve >> >> > in a terminal, run the following: > sudo nvidia-xconfig > > this will generate a xorg.conf file that instructs X to use "nvidia". > as a precaution, make sure you have "linux-headers-generic" installed as > well, so that the nvidia driver can be configured correctly. > > sudo aptitude install linux-headers-generic > > Thanks William. I hadn't used nvidia-xconfig because I have had issues with it generating an xorg.conf that is wrong and stuffing up a working system because of it. I already have linux-headers-generic installed but that package is for the wrong version of the kernel. I now have installed the headers for the kernel installed and will see if that fixes things on the next boot. regards, Steve -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: samorris.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 134 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Mon May 17 21:47:09 2010 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:47:09 +0100 Subject: USB problems In-Reply-To: <201005170452.21862.rrumberger@web.de> References: <4BF0AAA4.2020203@tiscali.co.uk> <201005170452.21862.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <4BF1B95D.8080707@tiscali.co.uk> Thanks, Reinhold. On 17/05/10 03:52, Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > Assuming neither the mouse nor the printer are wireless: Both are wired. > Are you sure you didn't recently drop the machine/hub or something? > It sounds like a loose contact to me or alternatively a power issue > with the hub... > I haven't dropped the computer. It sits on the floor. > Does the Hub's power supply smell strange? Does using a different hub > help? Does connecting the hub to a different USB port on the machine > help? > I think the hubs are internal to the machine as I connect both mouse and printer directly to the computer. I don't have any external hubs. > Personally, unless other people with a similar machine experience > similar problems, I'd go for a hardware defect. You might want to > check the output of dmesg and the contents of /var/log/messages to > see what the kernel thinks is happening. > > --Reinhold > > I don't know much about the internals of USB, but it does look as if the power is dropping. Without the power, I assume the devices disappear. LATER: I've finished downloading a torrent and now the mouse seems fine - no blackouts... curiouser and curiouser... -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz From glennoph at gmail.com Tue May 18 00:07:36 2010 From: glennoph at gmail.com (glenn opdycke-hansen) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:07:36 -0500 Subject: Problem setting up printers in Lucid In-Reply-To: <1207119524.31575131274127565042.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1207119524.31575131274127565042.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: For HP printers, HPLIP is helpful. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hplip --glenn On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 15:19, wrote: > When selecting Printer Configuration in Karmic and then New Network > Printer, I was presented with a list of printers on my LAN each of which had > the printer model and its TCP/IP address (on our LAN it would be > 10.2.92.xxx) as in: > > ... > HP Color LaserJet 4700 (10.2.92.201) > HP Color LaserJet 4700 (10.2.92.203) > ... > RICOH Aficio MP C2550 (10.2.92.211) > RICOH Aficio MP C2550 (10.2.92.213) > > Canon iR C5185-H1 1.2 (10.2.92.202) > Canon iR C5185-H1 1.2 (10.2.92.202) > ... > > > In Lucid, the parenthetical TCP/IP is replaced sometimes by a cryptic 6 > character string in brackets. To the right is a box "Enter Device URI" with > a pre-populated entry for each printer as follows. > > dnssd://HP%20Color%20LaserJet%204700%20%5B271B88%5D._printer._tcp.local/ > (The 6 character string follows the "%5B"). There is no TCP/IP address to > be found so I don't know which printer is which. > > I can ping the printers by their names or TCP/IP #s, but I have no way of > connecting the tabular listing of printers in the new format with the TCP/IP > addresses or printer names. > > Any ideas how to identify the printers by TCP/IP in the config list without > testing each one individually until I hit on the right one? > > Paul > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Tue May 18 01:55:15 2010 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 01:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Problem setting up printers in Lucid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <693464030.31731171274147715278.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I don't think this is a driver issue. I'm pretty certain that when the config tool lists the printer type it is reading something that our network admins have programed into the print server at the specific TCP address. If I select one of the printers and click Next, I get to a list of printer manufacturers and subsequently a list of printer types and finally drivers. My problem is in not being able to identify which printer (which print server) is associated with each name the initial list because instead of seeing the TCP address, I see a 6-character code which is meaningless to me. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "glenn opdycke-hansen" To: "Kubuntu user technical support" Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 8:07:36 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Problem setting up printers in Lucid For HP printers, HPLIP is helpful. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hplip --glenn On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 15:19, < pkaplan1 at comcast.net > wrote: When selecting Printer Configuration in Karmic and then New Network Printer, I was presented with a list of printers on my LAN each of which had the printer model and its TCP/IP address (on our LAN it would be 10.2.92.xxx) as in: ... HP Color LaserJet 4700 (10.2.92.201) HP Color LaserJet 4700 (10.2.92.203) ... RICOH Aficio MP C2550 (10.2.92.211) RICOH Aficio MP C2550 (10.2.92.213) Canon iR C5185-H1 1.2 (10.2.92.202) Canon iR C5185-H1 1.2 (10.2.92.202) ... In Lucid, the parenthetical TCP/IP is replaced sometimes by a cryptic 6 character string in brackets. To the right is a box "Enter Device URI" with a pre-populated entry for each printer as follows. dnssd://HP%20Color%20LaserJet%204700%20%5B271B88%5D._printer._tcp.local/ (The 6 character string follows the "%5B"). There is no TCP/IP address to be found so I don't know which printer is which. I can ping the printers by their names or TCP/IP #s, but I have no way of connecting the tabular listing of printers in the new format with the TCP/IP addresses or printer names. Any ideas how to identify the printers by TCP/IP in the config list without testing each one individually until I hit on the right one? Paul -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linux at ericelliott.us Tue May 18 03:59:18 2010 From: linux at ericelliott.us (Eric Lee Elliott) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:59:18 -0500 Subject: 2.6.33 yes, Option Icon 3G still no Message-ID: <4BF21096.6090200@ericelliott.us> Today Kernel 2.6.33 & usb-modeswitch were installed, expecting Option Icon 322 modem to work. It still locks computer. Freezes all keys & cursor. 2.6.33 is supposed to have new version of hso driver by Option. Any one already have it working? Same modem as ATT Quicksilver. Eric From samorris at netspace.net.au Tue May 18 12:10:12 2010 From: samorris at netspace.net.au (Steve Morris) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 22:10:12 +1000 Subject: Wrong video driver being used in Lucid In-Reply-To: <4BF1B8A9.1080307@netspace.net.au> References: <4BF1B148.5030102@netspace.net.au> <4BF1B287.8010706@gmail.com> <4BF1B8A9.1080307@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <4BF283A4.7020909@netspace.net.au> On 18/05/10 07:44, Steve Morris wrote: > On 18/05/10 07:17, William Hamra wrote: >> On 05/18/2010 12:12 AM, Steve Morris wrote: >>> I have an nvidia Gforce 7600GS video card and I have "upgraded" to >>> Lucid >>> via the alternate cd (it didn't wipe my system/home directories but >>> effectively installed everything else from scratch even though using >>> the >>> expert mode) from Karmic where I was using the nvidia binary driver. >>> The >>> upgrade to Lucid has replaced the nvidia binary with the stupid nouveau >>> driver which doesn't work properly (kde has the desktop display >>> configured at 1280x1024 @ 60 Hz but the driver is running at >>> 1280x1024 @ >>> 50 Hz). >>> I have now installed the nvidia binary driver via the nvidia-current >>> package and the nvidia-glx package but the system is not using this >>> nvidia driver. In the absence of an xorg.conf how does one force the >>> system to use the nvida binary driver when installation of the package >>> does not activate it (it is contentious as to whether or not >>> installation of the package should force configure the system given >>> that >>> on my laptop which is using an intel graphics chip an install of Lucid >>> from scratch on a newly formatted system installed the nvidia binary >>> drivers for whatever reason, but it is correctly using the intel i915 >>> driver). >>> I have tried a sudo update-alternatives --display xserver-xorg but >>> it says there are no alternatives and, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh >>> xserver-xorg appears to do nothing. >>> >>> regards, >>> Steve >>> >> in a terminal, run the following: >> sudo nvidia-xconfig >> >> this will generate a xorg.conf file that instructs X to use "nvidia". >> as a precaution, make sure you have "linux-headers-generic" installed as >> well, so that the nvidia driver can be configured correctly. >> >> sudo aptitude install linux-headers-generic >> > Thanks William. I hadn't used nvidia-xconfig because I have had issues > with it generating an xorg.conf that is wrong and stuffing up a > working system because of it. > I already have linux-headers-generic installed but that package is for > the wrong version of the kernel. I now have installed the headers for > the kernel installed and will see if that fixes things on the next boot. > > regards, > Steve > I have finally enabled the nvidia driver. I had to use apt-get to install the linux header package for the kernel I am using because even though synaptics said it had downloaded and installed it, it hadn't. I am also using xorg.conf from Mandriva as the settings used by Ubuntu at 1280x1024 are not compatible with my monitor, and nvidia-xconfig doesn't generate the modelines needed for proper functionality either. regards, Steve -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Can you link to a bug report, or describe it. >> >>> or >>> on the various gadgets, >> >> Describe in detail what you are talking about. > > > When I select the gadget at the top left of an app window, the menuing > is legible, and > the size can be changed through KDE.  Just underneath that level, are > the application > menu gadgets, and the printing on them and their popups is so tiny, you need an > electron microscope just to detect them.  It's the same with the > function gadgets that > are usually located just under that level.  None of these are > changeable through KDE, > and its the same with every last stinking program, whether its part of > KDE or not. > Please send to me a screenshot, I'll get on this. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue May 18 16:11:51 2010 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:11:51 +0200 Subject: Drop out with 1080p file In-Reply-To: <201005172116.47625.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201005171932.01554.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> <201005172116.47625.captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > On Monday 17 May 2010 20:53:17 Knapp wrote: >> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Mark Greenwood >> wrote: >> > On Monday 17 May 2010 08:19:58 Knapp wrote: >> >> I installed smplayer and it compains on startup that my mplayer is out >> >> of date. How do I fix that in Kubuntu? Is there a repo or something >> >> for more current stuff? >> >> >> >> >> > Just ignore that error, it works anyway. Go to SMPlayer's Preferences window, and on the Video tab choose vdpau as the Output driver. >> > >> > I hope somebody updates mplayer soon, but there don't seem to be any issues with it so far. >> > >> > Mark >> >> I did as you suggested and now SMPlayer does not show any picture at >> all. It acts as if it were playing a mp3 file. So I am once again >> lost. :-( >> > Are you sure you installed libvdpau1? If you have then are you definitely running the nvidia propietary driver? If yes to both then perhaps your card doesn't support vdpau. > > Mark As you can see in the other posts, it is installed. All my other 3d stuff seems to work and the nvidia driver settings program is happy. Maybe my card is to old BUT . . . >From IRC #videolan [17:28:53] Human-Bean: go in preferences/codec/other codec/ffmpeg [17:29:12] and set skip loop filter to all This works with VLC!!! Thanks lots for your help. I learned a lot. -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://bespin.org/~douglas/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massagen Arbeit in Gelsenkirchen Buer http://bespin.org/~douglas/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ From kassube at gmx.net Tue May 18 16:44:16 2010 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:44:16 +0200 Subject: Wireless not being activated automatically In-Reply-To: <4BF285AB.3080305@netspace.net.au> References: <4BF285AB.3080305@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <201005181844.16097.kassube@gmx.net> Steve Morris wrote: > I have a wireless network card that requires ndiswrapper in order to > function. With both wicd and network-manager I have to activate the > connection manually even though both are configured to start it > automatically. What do I need to look at to determine why both these > network managers cannot start the interface automatically, even > though the required alias are in place. They can't start the interface because only one of them may control an interface. Otherwise they fight each other and none of them wins. Either uninstall wicd or networkmanager. But I can't tell you which one works better for your card. Nils From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Tue May 18 19:36:40 2010 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Tom Bell) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:36:40 -0400 Subject: Wrong video driver being used in Lucid In-Reply-To: <4BF283A4.7020909@netspace.net.au> References: <4BF1B148.5030102@netspace.net.au> <4BF1B287.8010706@gmail.com> <4BF1B8A9.1080307@netspace.net.au> <4BF283A4.7020909@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: <4BF2EC48.9000409@cfl.rr.com> On 05/18/2010 08:10 AM, Steve Morris wrote: > On 18/05/10 07:44, Steve Morris wrote: >> On 18/05/10 07:17, William Hamra wrote: >>> On 05/18/2010 12:12 AM, Steve Morris wrote: >>>> I have an nvidia Gforce 7600GS video card and I have "upgraded" to >>>> Lucid >>>> via the alternate cd (it didn't wipe my system/home directories but >>>> effectively installed everything else from scratch even though >>>> using the >>>> expert mode) from Karmic where I was using the nvidia binary >>>> driver. The >>>> upgrade to Lucid has replaced the nvidia binary with the stupid >>>> nouveau >>>> driver which doesn't work properly (kde has the desktop display >>>> configured at 1280x1024 @ 60 Hz but the driver is running at >>>> 1280x1024 @ >>>> 50 Hz). >>>> I have now installed the nvidia binary driver via the nvidia-current >>>> package and the nvidia-glx package but the system is not using this >>>> nvidia driver. In the absence of an xorg.conf how does one force the >>>> system to use the nvida binary driver when installation of the package >>>> does not activate it (it is contentious as to whether or not >>>> installation of the package should force configure the system given >>>> that >>>> on my laptop which is using an intel graphics chip an install of Lucid >>>> from scratch on a newly formatted system installed the nvidia binary >>>> drivers for whatever reason, but it is correctly using the intel i915 >>>> driver). >>>> I have tried a sudo update-alternatives --display xserver-xorg but >>>> it says there are no alternatives and, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh >>>> xserver-xorg appears to do nothing. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> Steve >>>> >>> in a terminal, run the following: >>> sudo nvidia-xconfig >>> >>> this will generate a xorg.conf file that instructs X to use "nvidia". >>> as a precaution, make sure you have "linux-headers-generic" >>> installed as >>> well, so that the nvidia driver can be configured correctly. >>> >>> sudo aptitude install linux-headers-generic >>> >> Thanks William. I hadn't used nvidia-xconfig because I have had >> issues with it generating an xorg.conf that is wrong and stuffing up >> a working system because of it. >> I already have linux-headers-generic installed but that package is >> for the wrong version of the kernel. I now have installed the headers >> for the kernel installed and will see if that fixes things on the >> next boot. >> >> regards, >> Steve >> > I have finally enabled the nvidia driver. I had to use apt-get to > install the linux header package for the kernel I am using because > even though synaptics said it had downloaded and installed it, it > hadn't. I am also using xorg.conf from Mandriva as the settings used > by Ubuntu at 1280x1024 are not compatible with my monitor, and > nvidia-xconfig doesn't generate the modelines needed for proper > functionality either. > > regards, > Steve > Out of curiosity, have you tried "sudo nvidia-settings" at the command line? Tom -- "PC, "Where would you like to go today?" ... Mac, "Where would you like to be tomorrow?" ... Linux, "Are you guys coming, or not?"" From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Tue May 18 20:37:25 2010 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:37:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: problem connecting to corporate LAN In-Reply-To: <1681545744.32115181274214669830.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1991768004.32119191274215045968.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Since installing Lucid, I haven't been able to use PyNeighborhood or SMB4K to mount Windows AD shares form the corporate LAN I can mount from the command line or use the smb:// protocol in konqueror, but both GUI tools fail. SMB4K has been borked for several releases, but PyNeighborhood worked fine under Karmic and I am using the same config file that worked previously. Does anyone know of any problems with these tools? Work-arounds? Alternatives? 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The >>>>> upgrade to Lucid has replaced the nvidia binary with the stupid >>>>> nouveau >>>>> driver which doesn't work properly (kde has the desktop display >>>>> configured at 1280x1024 @ 60 Hz but the driver is running at >>>>> 1280x1024 @ >>>>> 50 Hz). >>>>> I have now installed the nvidia binary driver via the nvidia-current >>>>> package and the nvidia-glx package but the system is not using this >>>>> nvidia driver. In the absence of an xorg.conf how does one force the >>>>> system to use the nvida binary driver when installation of the package >>>>> does not activate it (it is contentious as to whether or not >>>>> installation of the package should force configure the system given >>>>> that >>>>> on my laptop which is using an intel graphics chip an install of Lucid >>>>> from scratch on a newly formatted system installed the nvidia binary >>>>> drivers for whatever reason, but it is correctly using the intel i915 >>>>> driver). >>>>> I have tried a sudo update-alternatives --display xserver-xorg but >>>>> it says there are no alternatives and, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh >>>>> xserver-xorg appears to do nothing. >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>> in a terminal, run the following: >>>> sudo nvidia-xconfig >>>> >>>> this will generate a xorg.conf file that instructs X to use "nvidia". >>>> as a precaution, make sure you have "linux-headers-generic" >>>> installed as >>>> well, so that the nvidia driver can be configured correctly. >>>> >>>> sudo aptitude install linux-headers-generic >>>> >>>> >>> Thanks William. I hadn't used nvidia-xconfig because I have had >>> issues with it generating an xorg.conf that is wrong and stuffing up >>> a working system because of it. >>> I already have linux-headers-generic installed but that package is >>> for the wrong version of the kernel. I now have installed the headers >>> for the kernel installed and will see if that fixes things on the >>> next boot. >>> >>> regards, >>> Steve >>> >>> >> I have finally enabled the nvidia driver. I had to use apt-get to >> install the linux header package for the kernel I am using because >> even though synaptics said it had downloaded and installed it, it >> hadn't. I am also using xorg.conf from Mandriva as the settings used >> by Ubuntu at 1280x1024 are not compatible with my monitor, and >> nvidia-xconfig doesn't generate the modelines needed for proper >> functionality either. >> >> regards, >> Steve >> >> > Out of curiosity, have you tried "sudo nvidia-settings" at the command line? > > Tom > > I haven't since using the Mandriva xorg.conf. I have tried it from the menu entry and if xorg.conf doesn't exist it complains about the fact and does nothing. But with the nvidia driver active, and xorg.conf not existing or built with nvidia-xconfig, my monitor displays a floating dialog complaining about "Invalid Input" (this is the only thing displayed on the screen and is usually an indication of an invalid resolution/refresh rate combination as far as the monitor is concerned) so I can't issue nvidia-settings anyway. regards, Steve -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What do I need to look at to determine why both these >> network managers cannot start the interface automatically, even >> though the required alias are in place. >> > They can't start the interface because only one of them may control an > interface. Otherwise they fight each other and none of them wins. Either > uninstall wicd or networkmanager. But I can't tell you which one works > better for your card. > > > Nils > > Sorry, I didn't mean I was running both together. What I meant was it doesn't matter which one is installed, I get the problem. The other thing I should point out is that this is occurring under Lucid, under Karmic networkmanager worked fine for the card. regards, Steve -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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SMB4K has been borked for several releases, but PyNeighborhood worked fine under Karmic and I am using the same config file that worked previously. > > > Does anyone know of any problems with these tools? Work-arounds? Alternatives? > > Thanks, > Paul In the past I've added entries to fstab to mount samba shares. I can't remember the syntax but I'm sure Google can. Alternatively, open Dolphin, press F9 to show the Places panel if it isn't already open, and browse using the 'Samba Shares' icon. There's a panel in System Settings for setting the default username and password. You can also create permanent shortcuts to network shares using 'Add Network Folder'. Mark From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Tue May 18 23:41:51 2010 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 19:41:51 -0400 Subject: problem connecting to corporate LAN In-Reply-To: <1991768004.32119191274215045968.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1991768004.32119191274215045968.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <201005181941.51970.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Tuesday, May 18, 2010 04:37:25 pm pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > Since installing Lucid, I haven't been able to use PyNeighborhood or SMB4K > to mount Windows AD shares form the corporate LAN > > > I can mount from the command line or use the smb:// protocol in konqueror, > but both GUI tools fail. SMB4K has been borked for several releases, but > PyNeighborhood worked fine under Karmic and I am using the same config > file that worked previously. > > > Does anyone know of any problems with these tools? Work-arounds? > Alternatives? > > Thanks, > Paul i don't know if this applies to your situation but I have an 'sandbox' computer at work. Of course I just had to install Kubuntu on it :) Well when I upgraded to lucid, all my mounts to the work servers failed. I use cifs mounts so you may need to change the '.cifs' to what you use. The fix: sudo chmod +s /sbin/mount.cifs sudo chmod +s /sbin/umount.cifs It's probably this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/563805 -- Alan "Now no one has to tell an old Aberdeene pub-crawler how to applaud, captain." Montgomery Scott -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Shut it down to take it to where I am currently working (it is a laptop and I am currently travelling). On next boot I get to the splash and then I get "BSOD" - Black Screen of Death. A black monitor, no activity or message or anything. Reboot and go to "recovery option" that after a while ends up with the line: ...can not find /dev/by-id/xxxx long string of UUID here I am dropped into Busybox shell and can do nothing worthwhile. I reboot with a usb flash I have and can see that all works and the disks are there (one disk, 3 partitions including swap). I check grub.cfg, I check /etc/fstab and all LOOKS perfect. But no boot. I tried the 3-4 kernels and none worked. Scouted around internet for a solution and there were a few suggestion ranging from rebuilding the kernel to what eventually worked and was simple: on bootup get into the Grub menu by hitting ESC, Shift or both choose a "recovery kernel", I chose an earlier than the latest just to be on safe side press "e" to get to edit mode replace all UUID-strings with /dev/sda(your root number), in my case /dev/sda2 press ctrl+x to boot with those settings drop to a root shell run update-grub reboot all worked as before.... except now grub.cfg points to /dev/sda2 instead of /dev/uuid-string Phew, Sinclair From g.lip at gmx.com Wed May 19 13:04:25 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 21:04:25 +0800 Subject: near disaster averted - "can not find /dev/by-id/xxxx" In-Reply-To: <4BF3DC2D.5070602@gmail.com> References: <4BF3DC2D.5070602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100519210425.181aed21.g.lip@gmx.com> On Wed, 19 May 2010 14:40:13 +0200 "O. Sinclair" wrote: > Have no idea what happened but if this helps someone landing in the > same trouble then it is worth the effort of documenting it. > > I am still on Karmic with all updates. Last night I was online and > left the computer on over the night. No problems, all worked this > morning. Shut it down to take it to where I am currently working (it > is a laptop and I am currently travelling). > > On next boot I get to the splash and then I get "BSOD" - Black Screen > of Death. A black monitor, no activity or message or anything. > > Reboot and go to "recovery option" that after a while ends up with > the line: ...can not find /dev/by-id/xxxx long string of UUID here > > I am dropped into Busybox shell and can do nothing worthwhile. I > reboot with a usb flash I have and can see that all works and the > disks are there (one disk, 3 partitions including swap). I check > grub.cfg, I check /etc/fstab and all LOOKS perfect. But no boot. > > I tried the 3-4 kernels and none worked. Scouted around internet for a > solution and there were a few suggestion ranging from rebuilding the > kernel to what eventually worked and was simple: > > on bootup get into the Grub menu by hitting ESC, Shift or both > choose a "recovery kernel", I chose an earlier than the latest just > to be on safe side > press "e" to get to edit mode > replace all UUID-strings with /dev/sda(your root number), in my case > /dev/sda2 > press ctrl+x to boot with those settings > drop to a root shell > run update-grub > reboot > all worked as before.... except now grub.cfg points to /dev/sda2 > instead of /dev/uuid-string > > Phew, > Sinclair You've 'sudo update-grub' and grub.cfg shows /dev/sda2? Strange. You may want to double check that. But glad you've got this sorted out. Regards - Goh Lip -- If you understand, things are the way they are. If you do not understand, things are the way they are. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed May 19 13:25:14 2010 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 15:25:14 +0200 Subject: near disaster averted - "can not find /dev/by-id/xxxx" In-Reply-To: <20100519210425.181aed21.g.lip@gmx.com> References: <4BF3DC2D.5070602@gmail.com> <20100519210425.181aed21.g.lip@gmx.com> Message-ID: <4BF3E6BA.4010601@gmail.com> Goh Lip wrote: > On Wed, 19 May 2010 14:40:13 +0200 > "O. Sinclair" wrote: > >> Have no idea what happened but if this helps someone landing in the >> same trouble then it is worth the effort of documenting it. >> >> I am still on Karmic with all updates. Last night I was online and >> left the computer on over the night. No problems, all worked this >> morning. Shut it down to take it to where I am currently working (it >> is a laptop and I am currently travelling). >> >> On next boot I get to the splash and then I get "BSOD" - Black Screen >> of Death. A black monitor, no activity or message or anything. >> >> Reboot and go to "recovery option" that after a while ends up with >> the line: ...can not find /dev/by-id/xxxx long string of UUID here >> >> I am dropped into Busybox shell and can do nothing worthwhile. I >> reboot with a usb flash I have and can see that all works and the >> disks are there (one disk, 3 partitions including swap). I check >> grub.cfg, I check /etc/fstab and all LOOKS perfect. But no boot. >> >> I tried the 3-4 kernels and none worked. Scouted around internet for a >> solution and there were a few suggestion ranging from rebuilding the >> kernel to what eventually worked and was simple: >> >> on bootup get into the Grub menu by hitting ESC, Shift or both >> choose a "recovery kernel", I chose an earlier than the latest just >> to be on safe side >> press "e" to get to edit mode >> replace all UUID-strings with /dev/sda(your root number), in my case >> /dev/sda2 >> press ctrl+x to boot with those settings >> drop to a root shell >> run update-grub >> reboot >> all worked as before.... except now grub.cfg points to /dev/sda2 >> instead of /dev/uuid-string >> >> Phew, >> Sinclair > > You've 'sudo update-grub' and grub.cfg shows /dev/sda2? > Strange. You may want to double check that. > But glad you've got this sorted out. > > Regards - Goh Lip > after manually editing the grub as described I dropped to a root-shell. So no need for "sudo" but update-grub. And yes, following that /dev/sda2 has replaced /dev/uuid-endless-string From g.lip at gmx.com Wed May 19 14:54:03 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 22:54:03 +0800 Subject: near disaster averted - "can not find /dev/by-id/xxxx" In-Reply-To: <4BF3E6BA.4010601@gmail.com> References: <4BF3DC2D.5070602@gmail.com> <20100519210425.181aed21.g.lip@gmx.com> <4BF3E6BA.4010601@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BF3FB8B.4020407@gmx.com> O. Sinclair wrote: > Goh Lip wrote: >> On Wed, 19 May 2010 14:40:13 +0200 >> "O. Sinclair" wrote: >> >>> Have no idea what happened but if this helps someone landing in the >>> same trouble then it is worth the effort of documenting it. >>> >>> I am still on Karmic with all updates. Last night I was online and >>> left the computer on over the night. No problems, all worked this >>> morning. Shut it down to take it to where I am currently working (it >>> is a laptop and I am currently travelling). >>> >>> On next boot I get to the splash and then I get "BSOD" - Black Screen >>> of Death. A black monitor, no activity or message or anything. >>> >>> Reboot and go to "recovery option" that after a while ends up with >>> the line: ...can not find /dev/by-id/xxxx long string of UUID here >>> >>> I am dropped into Busybox shell and can do nothing worthwhile. I >>> reboot with a usb flash I have and can see that all works and the >>> disks are there (one disk, 3 partitions including swap). I check >>> grub.cfg, I check /etc/fstab and all LOOKS perfect. But no boot. >>> >>> I tried the 3-4 kernels and none worked. Scouted around internet for a >>> solution and there were a few suggestion ranging from rebuilding the >>> kernel to what eventually worked and was simple: >>> >>> on bootup get into the Grub menu by hitting ESC, Shift or both >>> choose a "recovery kernel", I chose an earlier than the latest just >>> to be on safe side >>> press "e" to get to edit mode >>> replace all UUID-strings with /dev/sda(your root number), in my case >>> /dev/sda2 >>> press ctrl+x to boot with those settings >>> drop to a root shell >>> run update-grub >>> reboot >>> all worked as before.... except now grub.cfg points to /dev/sda2 >>> instead of /dev/uuid-string >>> >>> Phew, >>> Sinclair >> You've 'sudo update-grub' and grub.cfg shows /dev/sda2? >> Strange. You may want to double check that. >> But glad you've got this sorted out. >> >> Regards - Goh Lip >> > after manually editing the grub as described I dropped to a root-shell. > So no need for "sudo" but update-grub. And yes, following that /dev/sda2 > has replaced /dev/uuid-endless-string > > Sinclair, sorry for being so persistent, but I find that unusual, so I replicated your steps, using older kernel, dev/sdax, recovery mode, root-shell, update-grub (no sudo), reboot and checked the grub.cfg. I've got the following.... menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic" { recordfail=1 if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi set quiet=1 insmod ext2 set root=(hd0,2) search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set f3412cbb-51f9-428e-9ef9-1cfd34c59a60 linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-20-generic root=UUID=f3412cbb-51f9-428e-9ef9-1cfd34c59a60 ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-20-generic } menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31-20-generic (recovery mode)" { recordfail=1 if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi insmod ext2 set root=(hd0,2) search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set f3412cbb-51f9-428e-9ef9-1cfd34c59a60 linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-20-generic root=UUID=f3412cbb-51f9-428e-9ef9-1cfd34c59a60 ro single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-20-generic } I do not find any trace of "/dev/sdax" anywhere in above, but of course, I had a good working bootable system to try on in the first place. Well okay, Sinclair, whatever works; just thought you might want to know. Regards, take care - Goh Lip From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Wed May 19 14:53:29 2010 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:53:29 +0300 Subject: omg stupid bug cost me a partition In-Reply-To: <4BF32BF0.7010806@gmail.com> References: <4BF32BF0.7010806@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4BF3FB69.4030509@prayingforisrael.net> On 05/19/2010 03:08 AM, William Hamra wrote: > when i setup my system using the alternate CD, it saw my main hard drive > as sdb, i setup on that hard drive a boot partition, an encrypted root > partition, and a 2 GB encrypted swap partition using random key on every > boot. > on the other hard drive, which was detected by alternate CD as sda, i > had my home partition, a partition for various stuff, and my backup > partition, none encrypted, though my home directory is using ecryptfs. > the third hard drive is an old IDE drive, detected as sdc, with 1 > partition for other types of backup. > upon booting, the system detected my main as sda, and other as sdb. > since initramfs contains a copy of crypttab which lists my root > partition as UUID, this creates no problem... but what i didn't notice, > is that crypttab lists the swap partition as a device node, namely, > /dev/sdb3, as it was configured with the CD... just 2 hours ago, i > decide to mount my backup partition and start restoring my files, to > notice that my 60 GB partition has been mounted as swap over the past > few days, and i lost all my backups. i am NOT happy. > > What, you mean that you don't make backups on separate media and 'off site'? I bet you will now.... From mdhirsch at gmail.com Wed May 19 15:21:46 2010 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:21:46 -0600 Subject: near disaster averted - "can not find /dev/by-id/xxxx" In-Reply-To: <4BF3FB8B.4020407@gmx.com> References: <4BF3DC2D.5070602@gmail.com> <20100519210425.181aed21.g.lip@gmx.com> <4BF3E6BA.4010601@gmail.com> <4BF3FB8B.4020407@gmx.com> Message-ID: On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Goh Lip wrote: > O. Sinclair wrote: >> Goh Lip wrote: >>> On Wed, 19 May 2010 14:40:13 +0200 >>> "O. Sinclair" wrote: >>> >>>> Have no idea what happened but if this helps someone landing in the >>>> same trouble then it is worth the effort of documenting it. >>>> >>>> I am still on Karmic with all updates. Last night I was online and >>>> left the computer on over the night. No problems, all worked this >>>> morning. Shut it down to take it to where I am currently working (it >>>> is a laptop and I am currently travelling). >>>> >>>> On next boot I get to the splash and then I get "BSOD" - Black Screen >>>> of Death. A black monitor, no activity or message or anything. >>>> >>>> Reboot and go to "recovery option" that after a while ends up with >>>> the line: ...can not find /dev/by-id/xxxx long string of UUID here >>>> >>>> I am dropped into Busybox shell and can do nothing worthwhile. I >>>> reboot with a usb flash I have and can see that all works and the >>>> disks are there (one disk, 3 partitions including swap). I check >>>> grub.cfg, I check /etc/fstab and all LOOKS perfect. But no boot. >>>> >>>> I tried the 3-4 kernels and none worked. Scouted around internet for a >>>> solution and there were a few suggestion ranging from rebuilding the >>>> kernel to what eventually worked and was simple: >>>> >>>> on bootup get into the Grub menu by hitting ESC, Shift or both >>>> choose a "recovery kernel",  I chose an earlier than the latest just >>>> to be on safe side >>>> press "e" to get to edit mode >>>> replace all UUID-strings with /dev/sda(your root number), in my case >>>> /dev/sda2 >>>> press ctrl+x to boot with those settings >>>> drop to a root shell >>>> run update-grub >>>> reboot >>>> all worked as before.... except now grub.cfg points to /dev/sda2 >>>> instead of /dev/uuid-string >>>> >>>> Phew, >>>> Sinclair >>> You've 'sudo update-grub' and grub.cfg shows /dev/sda2? >>> Strange.  You may want to double check that. >>> But glad you've got this sorted out. >>> >>> Regards - Goh Lip >>> >> after manually editing the grub as described I dropped to a root-shell. >> So no need for "sudo" but update-grub. And yes, following that /dev/sda2 >> has replaced /dev/uuid-endless-string >> >> > Sinclair, sorry for being so persistent, but I find that unusual, so I > replicated your steps, using older kernel, dev/sdax, recovery mode, > root-shell, update-grub (no sudo), reboot and checked the grub.cfg. Goh, If I understand what Sinclair wrote, he manually replaced the UUID-stuff with the appropriate /dev/sdx. This will certainly work. These UUID problems shows once again that labels are often a better way to go. Label your partitions and mount by label. Labels won't change when you expand partitions, etc. That said, I don't understand how or why Sinclair's UUIDs got changed. Michael From luisgmarengo at aim.com Wed May 19 15:44:41 2010 From: luisgmarengo at aim.com (Gerardo) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:44:41 -0400 Subject: kdesudo as another user, not root Message-ID: I'm running Kubuntu 10.04 (AMD64). If I run kdesudo to run a program as another user, it asks me for that user's password, but instead only works if I enter my own password. For example, I enter kdesudo -u Mary firefox It asks me for Mary's password, but if I enter Mary's password I get an incorrect password error. If I enter my own password, then it runs normally as Mary. I also have to be listed in sudoers for it to work. If a user does not have sudo access, then it doesn't work, period. On Hardy, I was able to run a program as another user by using kdesu.distrib, but I can't find it in Lucid. From g.lip at gmx.com Wed May 19 15:51:13 2010 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 23:51:13 +0800 Subject: near disaster averted - "can not find /dev/by-id/xxxx" In-Reply-To: References: <4BF3DC2D.5070602@gmail.com> <20100519210425.181aed21.g.lip@gmx.com> <4BF3E6BA.4010601@gmail.com> <4BF3FB8B.4020407@gmx.com> Message-ID: On 05/19/2010 11:21 PM, Michael Hirsch wrote: > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Goh Lip wrote: >> O. Sinclair wrote: >>> Goh Lip wrote: >>>> On Wed, 19 May 2010 14:40:13 +0200 >>>> "O. Sinclair" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Have no idea what happened but if this helps someone landing in the >>>>> same trouble then it is worth the effort of documenting it. >>>>> >>>>> I am still on Karmic with all updates. Last night I was online and >>>>> left the computer on over the night. No problems, all worked this >>>>> morning. Shut it down to take it to where I am currently working (it >>>>> is a laptop and I am currently travelling). >>>>> >>>>> On next boot I get to the splash and then I get "BSOD" - Black Screen >>>>> of Death. A black monitor, no activity or message or anything. >>>>> >>>>> Reboot and go to "recovery option" that after a while ends up with >>>>> the line: ...can not find /dev/by-id/xxxx long string of UUID here >>>>> >>>>> I am dropped into Busybox shell and can do nothing worthwhile. I >>>>> reboot with a usb flash I have and can see that all works and the >>>>> disks are there (one disk, 3 partitions including swap). I check >>>>> grub.cfg, I check /etc/fstab and all LOOKS perfect. But no boot. >>>>> >>>>> I tried the 3-4 kernels and none worked. Scouted around internet for a >>>>> solution and there were a few suggestion ranging from rebuilding the >>>>> kernel to what eventually worked and was simple: >>>>> >>>>> on bootup get into the Grub menu by hitting ESC, Shift or both >>>>> choose a "recovery kernel", I chose an earlier than the latest just >>>>> to be on safe side >>>>> press "e" to get to edit mode >>>>> replace all UUID-strings with /dev/sda(your root number), in my case >>>>> /dev/sda2 >>>>> press ctrl+x to boot with those settings >>>>> drop to a root shell >>>>> run update-grub >>>>> reboot >>>>> all worked as before.... except now grub.cfg points to /dev/sda2 >>>>> instead of /dev/uuid-string >>>>> >>>>> Phew, >>>>> Sinclair >>>> You've 'sudo update-grub' and grub.cfg shows /dev/sda2? >>>> Strange. You may want to double check that. >>>> But glad you've got this sorted out. >>>> >>>> Regards - Goh Lip >>>> >>> after manually editing the grub as described I dropped to a root-shell. >>> So no need for "sudo" but update-grub. And yes, following that /dev/sda2 >>> has replaced /dev/uuid-endless-string >>> >>> >> Sinclair, sorry for being so persistent, but I find that unusual, so I >> replicated your steps, using older kernel, dev/sdax, recovery mode, >> root-shell, update-grub (no sudo), reboot and checked the grub.cfg. > Goh, > > If I understand what Sinclair wrote, he manually replaced the > UUID-stuff with the appropriate /dev/sdx. This will certainly work. Yes, I understand; it'll work and should boot with correct /dev/sdax instead of UUID=xxxxx. But I was surprised that grub-update (in root) would remain in /dev/sdax unless that was specified in /etc/default/grub.d thus... # Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to # Linux #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true > > These UUID problems shows once again that labels are often a better > way to go. Label your partitions and mount by label. Labels won't > change when you expand partitions, etc. True again, I concur wholeheartedly, especially as labels are easily understood and remembered - Who can remember UUID's? - and also when you change partition for whatever reason, applies too to fstab very much. That said, its best not to use (hdx,y) or /dev/sdax and do this instead search --no-floppy --label --set