Kubuntu/Ubuntu does not remove everything from memory at shutdown

[Lisi]

On Friday 12 March 2010 01:02:01 Steve Morris wrote:
> On 11/03/10 14:53, Pastor JW wrote:
> > On Wednesday 10 March 2010 11:34:33 am Steve Morris wrote:
> >> On 11/03/10 03:22, Juergen Sauer wrote:
> >>> Am Freitag, 5. März 2010 schrieb Mark Greenwood:
> >>>>> Looks like an pure Windows7 Problem. Ask them.
> >>>>
> >>>> No it's not a Windows problem, I have the same. If I choose 'Reboot'
> >>>> on my laptop from within Kubuntu, then when the laptop comes back up I
> >>>> have no ACPI functionality and no sound. I have to Shutdown and then
> >>>> switch on again to do a proper reboot from within (K)Ubuntu. This does
> >>>> not happen with Mandriva. However on my desktop system a reboot from
> >>>> Kubuntu works fine. I suspect it is an ACPI bug and I reported it to
> >>>> Ubuntu about, oh, two millennia ago.
> >>>
> >>> Ofcours is it a Problem of the booting operation system if it can not
> >>> correctla initialize the system's hardware.
> >>>
> >>> If a system is to be booted, a OS must be able to boot correctly.
> >>>
> >>> In this definition it is a clearly Windoze 7 problem.
> >>>
> >>> Jojo
> >>
> >> No, it is not a Windows 7 problem, it is Kubuntu/Ubuntu not doing things
> >> properly with the hardware when it shuts down.
> >
> > it is not shutting down that is the problem.  Either the sound card is
> > flaky in which case from time to time both Mandriva and Ubuntu would also
> > fail to produce sound upon start-up OR the problem is with the OS not
> > correctly initializing the sound card upon boot up.  Any values left in
> > componet parts are supposed to be reset to the values the OS requires
> > when it boots the system up.  Mandriva seems to handle this fine as does
> > Ubuntu on your computer, the other one clearly seems unable to handle
> > this usually simple task.  Does it also re-display your previous OS's 
> > last monitor screens?
>
> I don't get re-displays of previous OS's last monitor screens. This
> issue is definitely a Kubuntu shutdown issue and not a Win 7 initialise
> issue.
> As I have said in another thread, I have to boot to Mandriva's kdm login
> screen and warm boot from there to get sound under Win 7 because
> Mandriva shuts down properly.
> Also I am regularly in the situation of having to warm boot from Kubuntu
> to Kubuntu to recover from crashes of the flaky compiz version being
> used in Kubuntu, and having firefox tell me it can't start because the
> version that was active when I warm booted Kubuntu is still in memory
> and not responding and needs to be removed first.

I am baffled.  If you dislike Kubunu so much, why are you using it?

Lisi