a 1.4 MB package recommended 230 MB of packages :|

Steve yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com
Sun Apr 11 16:03:01 BST 2010


On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:35:55 +0100, Nigel Ridley  
<nigel at prayingforisrael.net> wrote:

> On 04/10/2010 06:11 PM, William Hamra wrote:
>> willy at willy:~$ sudo aptitude install asciidoc
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Reading extended state information
>> Initialising package states... Done
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>    asciidoc dblatex{a} docbook-dsssl{a} docbook-utils{a} docbook-xsl{a}
>> docbook-xsl-doc-html{a}
>>    dvipdfmx{a} jadetex{a} lacheck{a} latex-beamer{a} latex-xcolor{a}
>> libkpathsea4{a} libostyle1c2{a}
>>    libsgmls-perl{a} lmodern{a} openjade{a} pgf{a} preview-latex-style{a}
>> prosper{a} ps2eps{a}
>>    sgmlspl{a} tex-common{a} texlive{a} texlive-base{a}
>> texlive-base-bin{a} texlive-base-bin-doc{a}
>>    texlive-common{a} texlive-doc-base{a} texlive-extra-utils{a}
>> texlive-fonts-recommended{a}
>>    texlive-fonts-recommended-doc{a} texlive-generic-extra{a}
>> texlive-generic-recommended{a}
>>    texlive-humanities{a} texlive-humanities-doc{a} texlive-latex-base{a}
>> texlive-latex-base-doc{a}
>>    texlive-latex-extra{a} texlive-latex-extra-doc{a}
>> texlive-latex-recommended{a}
>>    texlive-latex-recommended-doc{a} texlive-math-extra{a}
>> texlive-pictures{a} texlive-pictures-doc{a}
>>    texlive-pstricks{a} texlive-pstricks-doc{a} tipa{a} xmlto{a}
>> 0 packages upgraded, 48 newly installed, 0 to remove and 46 not  
>> upgraded.
>> Need to get 231MB of archives. After unpacking 458MB will be used.
>> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n
>> Abort.
>> willy at willy:~$ sudo aptitude install asciidoc --without-recommends
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Reading extended state information
>> Initialising package states... Done
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>    asciidoc
>> The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
>>    dblatex docbook-utils xmlto
>> 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 46 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 1,478kB of archives. After unpacking 4,420kB will be used.
>> Writing extended state information... Done
>> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com]^C
>> willy at willy:~$
>>
>>
>> i understand recommends are kinda neat to have, i used to install most
>> of them before the default apt policy was changed to install recommends
>> by default, but this.... is just extreme. i can not imagine what a
>> regular user with no expertise would do if he was required to install
>> asciidoc, i was *shocked* to see 230 MB for such a simple program. took
>> me till next day to remember checking if recommends are playing a game
>> on me, and lo and behold, asciidoc just requires 1.4 MB.. lol
>> sorry for the somewhat *rant*ish message, but recommends should be
>> somehow explained, and giving the user a choice.
>>
>
>
> That was using apt -- what about aptitude - does it also install  
> recommends without giving the
> user a say?
>
--no-install-recommends is a useful switch ;) in apt

-- 
Steve (Yorvyk)
http://www.lubuntu.net



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