Kubuntu a dist in crisis?

[Clay Weber]

On Monday 26 October 2009 03:24:22 am Ric Moore wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 23:33 -0400, Clay Weber wrote:
> > On Sunday 25 October 2009 04:37:09 pm Ric Moore wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 09:30 -0400, Martin Laberge wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 24 October 2009 04:28:14 O. Sinclair wrote:
> > > > > http://www.itnewstoday.com/?p=1032
> > > > >
> > > > > Read - do you agree? To some extent I do, at least on bugs not
> > > > > being attended to even if they are serious.
> > > > >
> > > > > And no, am not a coder so can not do much to assist there. And 
yes,
> > > > > still with Kubuntu and doing what I can to spread it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sinclair
> > > >
> > > > It is not Kubuntu who have problems,
> > > > this is Kde4 who have problems.
> > > >
> > > > Keep using Hardy-Kde-3.5.10 and keep having
> > > > a perfectly working system.
> > > >
> > > > Even today, 3 *buntu releases later, the hardy release
> > > > of kubuntu, stands the better system of all times. (for me)
> > > >
> > > > So i stayed with a perfect system, my kubuntu-8.04
> > > > and I dont miss any of the whistles of the others versions.
> > >
> > > I wish I had stayed with hardy as well. Fighting with pulseaudio has
> > > gotten OLD. I miss some of the applications that worked perfectly with
> > > Hardy, like the nVidia installer. Ric
> >
> > Pulseaudio is not installed in Kubuntu (though it seems to be easy to
> > install indirectly by installing something else)
> >
> > clay
> 
> Something as dumb as installing Evolution, a gnome app, I expect. Ric
>
 
That's not a dumb thing to do. It *is* a Gnome app after all, so it needs 
Gnome things. Ubuntu decides what it's packages depend on, and that is why 
Evolution pulls in not only base Gnome things, it pulls in other gnome/Ubuntu 
specifics as well, like pulseaudio, among other things. I don't believe there 
is a simple way around this. It goes the other way as well; installing kontact 
in Ubuntu pulls in tons of extras, I am sure. 

A way to minimize this is to install packages with apt using the ''--no-
install-recommends" flag. Even installing synaptic in Karmic pulls in a number 
of extra (and unneeded in KDE) stuff. I wonder if there is a way to specify 
this flag in apt's configuration somewhere, as well as what the consequences 
would be?


clay