[OT] Old Guys - was (Re: KDE4.3 beta issues <OT>)

Willy K. Hamra w.hamra1987 at gmail.com
Sat May 23 14:32:03 UTC 2009

On Saturday 23 May 2009 17:06:26 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 23 May 2009, Thorny wrote:
> >On Sat, 23 May 2009 04:13:08 -0400, Ric Moore posted:
> >> On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 09:26 +0200, Donn wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, 23 May 2009 07:49:13 Ric Moore wrote:
> >>> > Worked like a dream for firing up a modem under CP/M.
> >>>
> >>> All I dimly recall about CP/M is "pip". The world spun pretty fast and
> >>> DOS was there before I could learn any more.
> >>
> >> I had to stay in the cheap seats awhile. A blooming XT cost a coupla
> >> grand, when they first came out. A harddrive then? Forgetaboutit. Next
> >> thing you know I'll be the cranky grandpa going "In MY day, I had two
> >> floppy drives and I was grateful to have that!" Of course Ole Gene will
> >> trump that with his ferrite cores and sore fingers from flipping
> >> switches. <grins>  Ric
> >
> >Ya! Before the start of the FRU (Field Replaceable Unit) concept, which
> >was based on pulling a board and putting in another one to get the
> >customer back up faster and centralize repair, sometimes we used to have
> >to change driver transistors for the rows and columns of those core memory
> >boards.
> And that FRU was something that DEC never got the hang of.  We had a
> pdp11/23 for several years at WDTV that had an average uptime before it
> went out for lunch & forgot to come back, of anywhere from 3 minutes (which
> did not fully boot it) to maybe 17 hours.  They replaced everything in that
> beast except the frame rail carrying the serial number without effecting a
> repair.  I still to this day think they were just shuffling boards from one
> customers machine to the next one without ever actually fixing a single
> board.  I finally talked Hugo at CBS into trading machines, mine for his
> test mule.  That worked, but it also put Hugo out of the computer business
> at CBS, so about 4 months later all of us got a new IBM box to replace the
> PDP11/23's.  You couldn't crash that IBM box with anything short of a 30-06
> round through it.
> >Fat-fingering in a bootstrap on the front panel address and data switches
> >to load the system seems amazing these days but the display of leds on the
> >front panel were cool and could be made to resemble Darth Vader eyes
> >while representing the activity level of the system. <BG>
> >
> >I didn't get a PC (clone) until '85 because I had the use of a mainframe
> >but it still cost $1600 and only had the two 5 1/2 inch floppies. I don't
> >know what a real IBM XT cost at the time.
> >
> >But Gene probably can still trump me, I think he's older than me, though
> >not quite as old as dirt. :-)
> Close, I think my Grandpa Hartman invented it.
little kiddies, on *MY* days, we used Windows XP, a downgraded version of your 
c/pm gibberish, lol, couldn't resist.

Willy K. Hamra
Manager of Hamra Information Systems
Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net

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