From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri May 1 00:40:55 2009 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:40:55 -0500 Subject: KPacketKit In-Reply-To: <9pppc6-9sj.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> References: <49F9C375.9040503@btinternet.com> <49F9D690.8020608@swbell.net> <49FA193D.40906@swbell.net> <9pppc6-9sj.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <49FA4517.3070600@swbell.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Billie Walsh wrote: > > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >> >>> Billie Walsh wrote: >>> > > >>>> Install Synaptic. Kpackagekit is a waste of disk space. >>>> >>>> >>> But synaptic is a _bigger_ waste, as it pulls in so much of Gnome... :-) >>> >> At least Synaptic works. More than can be said for Kpackagekit. >> > > But it doesn't work _well_. I've never found synaptic useful, and I have > actually used it on and off ever since it was first introduced (I just > deleted it off my system again, this morning). > > When it comes right down to it, since the demise of kpackage, I've never > found anything that works better than aptitude at the command line. > > > > I don't believe I ever said it worked "well". All I said was that it "worked" period. In the last twenty-four hours I've probably downloaded and installed something like 250 or 300 packages counting updates as I rebuilt my system after a screw-up. Slept all night and went to town all afternoon. How long does that take in aptitude one at a time [ well, not counting dependencies ]? Synaptic can download and install sixty or more at a time much faster. From rick_knight at rlknight.com Fri May 1 00:44:18 2009 From: rick_knight at rlknight.com (Rick Knight) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:44:18 -0700 Subject: USB Memory Stick not Automounting (or manually mounting) In-Reply-To: <49F9FE66.6000001@ajinfosearch.com> References: <49F871F7.3070001@rlknight.com> <49F9BFCC.2080903@rlknight.com> <49F9FE66.6000001@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: <49FA45E2.8070102@rlknight.com> Alan Dacey wrote: > Rick Knight wrote: > >> Rick Knight wrote: >> >>> Due to a hard drive crash, I've had to re-install Kubuntu 8.04 to a bare >>> drive. Everything is working so far except that I cannot get my USB >>> Memory Sticks to automount, nor am I able to mount them manually. I've >>> installed autofs but that didn't help. I've run "sudo tail -f >>> /var/log/messages" and watched the output while inserting the Memory >>> Stick, but there is no response. This has always just worked in the past >>> so I'm not sure what to do to fix the problem. Anyone able to offer any >>> help? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> >> Can someone please help me with this? I am unable to access anything on >> USB memory sticks. >> >> Thanks, >> Rick >> >> > > Is libusb installed? Do your CD's auto-mount? > Do you have any other partitions that are not mounted in /etc/fstab? If so, can > you see them in the system area in Dolph3n? > > Alan, Yes, my CDs do auto-mount. Thanks, Rick From irving.lp at feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu Fri May 1 00:58:17 2009 From: irving.lp at feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu (Irving Leonard) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:58:17 -0400 Subject: Where is my xserver conf??!! Message-ID: <200904302058.18099.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> Looking for a way to configure my video chip in jaunty I found that: MY /etc/X11/xorg.conf FILE IS EMPTY!!! In hardy I use to change things in there to get a better video performance but now IT HAVE NOTHING (0B). Where did the configuration go? Where do I change the open radeon driver configuration? regards irving VI Conferencia Internacional de Energ�a Renovable, Ahorro de Energ�a y Educaci�n Energ�tica 9 - 12 de Junio 2009, Palacio de las Convenciones ...Por una cultura energ�tica sustentable www.ciercuba.com From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 1 01:47:27 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:47:27 -0400 Subject: Do I need both ~/.kde/ and ~/.kde4/ - kaddressbook In-Reply-To: <200904292112.22704.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <1241031535.6687.93.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <200904292112.22704.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <1241142447.6745.76.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 21:12 -0400, Clay Weber wrote: > On Wednesday 29 April 2009 2:58:55 pm Ric Moore wrote: > > > > What about kaddressbook?? I have 1,534 records I'd rather not lose. Ric > > > > -- > Kaddressbook has its config file in ~/.kde/share/config/kaddressbokrc > and the data in ~/.kde/share/config/kabc > You should be able to just copy these over while Kontact is closed OK, kaddressbook for KDE4.2 will work with those KDE3.5 files? Great! Thanks! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 1 02:41:53 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:41:53 -0400 Subject: Phonon sound problem? In-Reply-To: <49F90BC3.2060101@palain.com> References: <49F7AAB8.7010502@palain.com> <1240981395.6687.3.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <49F90BC3.2060101@palain.com> Message-ID: <1241145713.6745.86.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 22:24 -0400, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > Ric Moore wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 21:17 -0400, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > > >> After upgrading to Jaunty, which also includes Amarok 2.0, I found I get > >> no sound from this application. Someone on the Amarok list suggested > >> that I try Dragon Player, and I get no sound with that either. On the > >> other hand Miro is working just fine, so there is nothing intrinsically > >> wrong with the sound system. Does this point to Phonon as the problem? > >> And if so, any idea how I can fix it? > >> > > > > Do you also have a USB headset? Ric > > > Not plugged in, but I think I have one around here somewhere. What did > you have in mind? you might try plugging it in. The output may have been automagically routed to it in the past and after you unplugged it the system fails to re-route back to your stereo speakers. Mine does at times. I use asoundconf-gdk to select the output. (use synaptic search to find/install it) Sometimes I have to log out and back in for it to take effect. Funny thing, it'll switch from the stereo speakers to the USB headset immeidately, but not the other way. YMMV. It's a thought. Trouble shooting with a shotgun here. Ric p/s Things are better now than they were in the days when we had to roll a kernel to get support for your soundcard. But not a heckuvalot. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From GreyGeek at earthlink.net Fri May 1 02:46:42 2009 From: GreyGeek at earthlink.net (GreyGeek) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:46:42 -0500 Subject: Need to connect to internet after installing 9.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49FA6292.4030005@earthlink.net> thudfoo at gmail.com wrote: > I ran the live CD version of 9.04. While doing so I was able to add the kppp > package in order to connect to the internet. Okay, that worked out. Then I > installed. Now Kubuntu don't no squat about any kppp (or kinternet, for > that matter). How do I get online with my external modem or get > kppp/kinternet installed? > > > Boot the LiveCD and reestablish the Internet connection using Kppp. Then download the kpp package but don't install it. Mount your file system that is on the HD and copy the Kppp package over to it. Reboot. Install the package. Someone else may come up with an easier way. GG From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 1 03:50:45 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:50:45 -0400 Subject: Quick Access Menu plasmoid The LONG answer... In-Reply-To: <200904300207.07971.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200904281226.33824.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200904281748.27922.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200904281709.02280.jongleur@liripipe.com> <200904300207.07971.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1241149845.6745.145.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 02:07 -0400, Steven Vollom wrote: > (Trim) > > Steven the reason for all of these questions is to try and figure out at > > what level your problem lies, and if you have indeed found a bug, then > > figuring out how to replicate it. So far I can't, although my extra > > partition is mounted in my home dir not in /media so that may or may not > > have something to do with it. ;-) > > I wish I was a little more versed in this system. I don't know why having a > storage partition named /media creates a problem. The storage is for media > projects mostly. But I have had lots of questions thrown at me about using > /media for a mount. Because I don't know why it is a problem, I don't know > why it should be changed. And, I wouldn't know what to change it too to > reduce the problem it seems to cause. Actually, I have never thought naming > it media had anything to do with why problems happen. I suspect the same > problems would happen if I called it /artwork or /movies or /greatstuff or > /whatever. I thought it was only an identifier, a name. I wrote you back when explaining that /media meant media as in disks, CD's, DVD's ...you know ..."magnetic media" that is usually removable. That's where the automounts take place for -physical devices- that become attached. /mnt is a typical -temporary- mount point for personal-use partitions, except for when you have a separate partition that is mounted -permanently- for /usr or /opt or /home, etc. Please notice that in your /home/{username} folder you have personal directories for your user pre-installed. like Desktop/ and Videos/. You would add artwork/ movies/ or greatstuff/ there as well. See? Not down in system space where things tend to get touchy and get their feelings all hurt. Then your machine will pout. They're kinda like Angels, who cannot tell a lie and live to serve God. Study the Linux Scriptures. Or, use /opt. I put my large projects there, on a separate partiton. /opt was used heavily during the Caldera Age for software installs independent of the operating system. Before that there was /usr/local/ so you could re-install everything else and not touch those program files ...if they were on a separate partition. THAT is Old OLD School. Still works today though. Someone wrote after my comment that you could put your mounts any place you please. Yes, you can do that as well. It's your machine! But, since some of this stuff going on within new-school auto-magically configure myself I know better Linux is practically voodoo to me, I chose not to ignore convention which is Old School. No need in using the thigh-bone, eh? I'm sure the pig would appreciate it. It wasn't until we had "auto mount" for things like CD's that the /media directory came into being. /mnt used to be it, from when you mounted a CD with command line. So, myself ...I merely leave /media alone in hopes that today it will notice I have offered it a CD and then it decides to respond. Or not. Maybe just for style, but now you know the rest of the story. Would I personally chose to dink with the existing /media directory? -No-. /proc isn't a good directory to mess with either. Could you? Certainly. Best not though, as I suspect it all will horribly go boom. Red is not a good color to push, either. Maybe for grins check the permissions and ownership of your /media directory. If your user owns it, oh man. You'll catch on. You're trying some paths into Old School Linux. We blew up stuff routinely. The smartest of us unplugged the keyboards, and stuffed a working server into a closet and closed the door. They could be up for well over a year or so, tossing email and serving files for ftp and never crash. Now it's common advice to reboot. Ric I wonder what machine has the longest uptime continuously? Anyone know? :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 1 04:13:24 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 00:13:24 -0400 Subject: KPacketKit In-Reply-To: <49FA0782.3050501@btinternet.com> References: <49FA0782.3050501@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <1241151204.6745.151.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 21:18 +0100, Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > I couldn't discover how to tell the 'installation system' > to forget this java plugin so I swore loud and long and re-installed Jaunty, a sledge-hammer > to crack a nut, I know, but it worked. In 2001, the pig had to be clobbered first to get to the Viennese Waltz. Arrg! Arrg! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDAWszeZtNg I know how my ancestor felt. Enjoy. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 1 04:33:41 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 00:33:41 -0400 Subject: Where is my xserver conf??!! In-Reply-To: <200904302058.18099.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> References: <200904302058.18099.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> Message-ID: <1241152421.6745.163.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 20:58 -0400, Irving Leonard wrote: > Looking for a way to configure my video chip in jaunty I found that: MY > /etc/X11/xorg.conf FILE IS EMPTY!!! In hardy I use to change things in there > to get a better video performance but now IT HAVE NOTHING (0B). Where did the > configuration go? Where do I change the open radeon driver configuration? > regards > irving Irving, it's supposed to know better that you do. I'm sure you're also having an early paleolithic homo-sapien moment by now, wanting to smash something real good with a thigh bone. I've had more than a few lately. Oh yeah, in a couple of previous posts I meant to say "Blue Danube Waltz" instead of "Viennese Waltz". I stand corrected. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From kassube at gmx.net Fri May 1 06:03:00 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:03:00 +0200 Subject: Where is my xserver conf??!! In-Reply-To: <200904302058.18099.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> References: <200904302058.18099.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> Message-ID: <200905010803.00925.kassube@gmx.net> Irving Leonard wrote: > Looking for a way to configure my video chip in jaunty I found that: > MY /etc/X11/xorg.conf FILE IS EMPTY!!! In hardy I use to change > things in there to get a better video performance but now IT HAVE > NOTHING (0B). Where did the configuration go? Where do I change the > open radeon driver configuration? regards The new version of X doesn't need a configuration but does everything automatically, at least sometimes. Therefore the config file is empty. But you can still use the config file if you want to. Just copy a backup from Hardy to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it should work. Nils From lisi.reisz at gmail.com Fri May 1 06:12:35 2009 From: lisi.reisz at gmail.com (Lisi Reisz) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 07:12:35 +0100 Subject: acer aspire one & Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <49F72179.2050108@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> References: <49F31C57.7070903@gmail.com> <4c6e034d0904270934m63e88683u6a97f0a099da3082@mail.gmail.com> <49F72179.2050108@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <200905010712.35348.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> On Tuesday 28 April 2009 16:32:09 Chris Jones wrote: > I agree with everyone else that this was a classic example of thread > stealing. Note that thread stealing does not imply that those doing it > intended to, or are even aware of what they are doing. In most case it > occurs when someone hits reply to a message, changes the title to > something completely different and asks a different question. They usual > do this as a 'convenient' way of getting the 'to' address, and are > unaware of the fact that underneath the email header knows it is a reply > to an email and thus is part of that thread. > > The bottom line is 'whenever' asking a new question, with a new subject > *always* hit 'new message' and never 'reply' Or - if, like me, you are lazy but don't want to hijack the thread ;-) - click on the required email address in the email from which you would click "reply". At least as quick and easy as clicking "reply" and starts a new thread. Lisi From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 1 07:29:07 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 07:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Ubuntu or Kubuntu problem with nautilus? References: <200904301807.36534.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: Clay Weber said: > On Thursday 30 April 2009 5:50:05 pm marc wrote: >> When a new media device is detected in Kubuntu, nautilus automatically >> starts. Oops! >> >> Amazingly, being gnome, they allow you to switch off this behaviour in >> nautilus' prefs: Browse media when inserted. Very trusing of them, I >> thought. >> >> However, surely this shouldn't happen when using Kubuntu. In fact, >> after a few week's use, it only started happening yesterday. No idea >> why, probably an update somewhere. >> >> But to whom should I report this? >> >> -- >> Best, >> Marc > > I'd file a bug on launchpad.I don't have gnome installed so I cannot > confirm, but others may see the same things and it might be easier to > solve/fix > > I have no idea myself what would cause this Done job. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 1 07:30:53 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 07:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Switching off all ound notifications References: <200904301810.44284.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200904301908.41247.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: Clay Weber said: > On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:26:48 pm marc wrote: >> Clay Weber said: >> > On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:06:00 pm marc wrote: >> >> It used to be possible to switch off all sound notifications in a >> >> single click. I can't find where to do this now. Anyone know? >> >> Thanks. >> > >> > Try System Settings / Notifications / Player Settings and check "no >> > audio output" >> > That , um, sounds like that is what you are looking for >> >> Ah, I thought that was for all audio, not just notifications. >> >> However, it doesn't work for gnome apps (in Kubuntu), which continue >> peeping and pinging and burbling every time you hit a button. And, of >> course, the apps themselves don't have their own audio controls; I know >> not why, I really don't. > > Unfortunately, you will probably have to go into gnome's preferences and > disable it there, too. > > You are more or less running two separate desktop environments that > don't use the same settings. There are some standards, such as menus and > similar, but once you open a gnome app, it will look for gnome settings. > KDE's settings aren't used there (and vice-versa). Yup, but I really thin they should be unified in this case. As I implied, this whole "new" area hasn't been thought through at all. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 1 07:37:48 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 07:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Where is my xserver conf??!! References: <200904302058.18099.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> Message-ID: Irving Leonard said: > Looking for a way to configure my video chip in jaunty I found that: MY > /etc/X11/xorg.conf FILE IS EMPTY!!! In hardy I use to change things in > there to get a better video performance but now IT HAVE NOTHING (0B). > Where did the configuration go? Where do I change the open radeon driver > configuration? regards I'm tempted to say that the settings are now in the registry! -- Best, Marc From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Fri May 1 09:18:23 2009 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 11:18:23 +0200 Subject: email clients References: <200904291252.11245.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> Message-ID: <87r5z989ls.fsf@fjellstad.org> Irving Leonard writes: > and not problems have been arised (yet). There is the old hardy kde3.5 > rock solid if you like. I never found kmail in the kde3 series to be solid at all. The new one in KDE4 seems to have fixed severals bugs and overall seem more stable. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Fri May 1 09:31:27 2009 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 11:31:27 +0200 Subject: Flash and Linux References: <49F69402.7030901@prayingforisrael.net> <49F7D56D.7080209@prayingforisrael.net> <49F839E7.30900@cmosnetworks.com> Message-ID: <87iqkl8900.fsf@fjellstad.org> "Terrell Prude' Jr." writes: > fault. The problem is that Flash is a proprietary format and Adobe > keeps the wraps on said format. And by under wraps, you mean publish them on their website: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf/ -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Fri May 1 09:20:06 2009 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 11:20:06 +0200 Subject: email clients References: <200904291252.11245.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> Message-ID: <87my9x89ix.fsf@fjellstad.org> Derek Broughton writes: > otoh, I do still have the same old problem I've had for 4 years - you can > not hibernate the computer with kmail open and be able to access the IMAP > folders when you resume. You have to exit, restart kmail/kontact first. > otth, I suspect this is actually a dovecot problem not a kmail one. I > wonder why I haven't configured dovecot to shutdown/resume on hibernate :-) Must be a dovecot problem because I don't see that problem with kmail against courierimap. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 1 12:14:18 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: email clients References: <200904291252.11245.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> <87my9x89ix.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: John L Fjellstad said: > Derek Broughton writes: > >> otoh, I do still have the same old problem I've had for 4 years - you >> can not hibernate the computer with kmail open and be able to access >> the IMAP folders when you resume. You have to exit, restart >> kmail/kontact first. otth, I suspect this is actually a dovecot problem >> not a kmail one. I wonder why I haven't configured dovecot to >> shutdown/resume on hibernate :-) > > Must be a dovecot problem because I don't see that problem with kmail > against courierimap. As I mentioned, I don't have dovecot installed, so it can't be that. -- Best, Marc From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Fri May 1 13:05:49 2009 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 14:05:49 +0100 Subject: KPacketKit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49FAF3AD.8050509@btinternet.com> Billie Walsh wrote: > > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> >> Billie Walsh wrote: >> >>> >>> Install Synaptic. Kpackagekit is a waste of disk space. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> But synaptic is a _bigger_ waste, as it pulls in so much of Gnome... :-) >> > > > > At least Synaptic works. More than can be said for Kpackagekit. > But it doesn't work _well_. I've never found synaptic useful, and I have actually used it on and off ever since it was first introduced (I just deleted it off my system again, this morning). When it comes right down to it, since the demise of kpackage, I've never found anything that works better than aptitude at the command line. ---------- Would this statement sum up all your comments? for which thank you look at the repositories and mirrors for the 'exact' name of the package required and us apt-get to install it. I shan't want to use KPackageKit if it is going to hang in this fashion too often. brian From microman at cmosnetworks.com Fri May 1 13:07:51 2009 From: microman at cmosnetworks.com (Terrell Prude' Jr.) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 09:07:51 -0400 Subject: Flash and Linux In-Reply-To: <87iqkl8900.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <49F69402.7030901@prayingforisrael.net> <49F7D56D.7080209@prayingforisrael.net> <49F839E7.30900@cmosnetworks.com> <87iqkl8900.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <49FAF427.6010008@cmosnetworks.com> John L Fjellstad wrote: > "Terrell Prude' Jr." writes: > > >> fault. The problem is that Flash is a proprietary format and Adobe >> keeps the wraps on said format. >> > > And by under wraps, you mean publish them on their website: > http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf/ > > No, that's not all of it. That's only the parts that have already been reverse-engineered so Adobe can "look good" without publishing the entire format. --TP From derek at pointerstop.ca Fri May 1 12:56:36 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 09:56:36 -0300 Subject: email clients References: <200904291252.11245.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> <87my9x89ix.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <558rc6-1uo.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> John L Fjellstad wrote: > Derek Broughton writes: > >> otoh, I do still have the same old problem I've had for 4 years - you can >> not hibernate the computer with kmail open and be able to access the IMAP >> folders when you resume. You have to exit, restart kmail/kontact first. >> otth, I suspect this is actually a dovecot problem not a kmail one. I >> wonder why I haven't configured dovecot to shutdown/resume on hibernate >> :-) > > Must be a dovecot problem because I don't see that problem with kmail > against courierimap. I think I'll give courier another shot then, and see. I used to use courier, and switched to dovecot because it was slightly simpler (that is, zero configuration, as opposed to one or two debconf settings - not much!). From derek at pointerstop.ca Fri May 1 13:03:26 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 10:03:26 -0300 Subject: email clients References: <200904291252.11245.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> <87my9x89ix.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: marc wrote: > John L Fjellstad said: > >> Derek Broughton writes: >> >>> otoh, I do still have the same old problem I've had for 4 years - you >>> can not hibernate the computer with kmail open and be able to access >>> the IMAP folders when you resume. You have to exit, restart >>> kmail/kontact first. otth, I suspect this is actually a dovecot problem >>> not a kmail one. I wonder why I haven't configured dovecot to >>> shutdown/resume on hibernate :-) >> >> Must be a dovecot problem because I don't see that problem with kmail >> against courierimap. > > As I mentioned, I don't have dovecot installed, so it can't be that. That doesn't necessarily follow. What IMAP server _do_ you have? If you say "none", then it isn't the same problem. This problem is very specific to having an IMAP folder open in KMail, and has to do with KMail and/or the IMAP server believing the user is still logged in after resume, but the session being unusable. The original KDE bug was claimed fixed, but it was never resolved for me. If _either_ KMail or the IMAP server would force logout a session inactive for "N" minutes, and the other end would recognize that, it probably wouldn't be a problem. From amichai at iglu.org.il Fri May 1 14:04:39 2009 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 17:04:39 +0300 Subject: Jaunty Musings Message-ID: Hello all, I know I already wrote to the Kubuntu list, but I was not answered - so I am trying the Ubuntu list too... I recently upgraded from Kubuntu 8.04 to Kubuntu 9.04 using the online method. I was actually surprised to see how smoothly the upgrade process was. I was pretty sure it will break my system and I'd have to re-install from scratch... I am trying to get used to the new concepts introduced in KDE 4.2.2, so I am guessing that my issues can be addressed - if someone points me in the right direction. I hope some of you out there can help me understand the cause for my problems. I am wondering if it's related to yet unsolved bugs. I can live with it - I just want to make sure it isn't something I am doing wrong and it is fixable. Here we go: Firstly, my hardware configuration: Main machine: An HP DX2300 Mini Tower 2 GB RAM NVidia 8400GS with 512MB VRAM 1x80GB HDD for the system, home and swap partitions. 1x160GB HDD for my data. A USB Bluetooth dongle Secondary machine: Generic Intel PII 1x20GB HDD for system, running FreeNAS Server 1x80GB HDD for my music files. Secondary machine is mounted as an NFS share over the LAN through my home router. I use the Bluetooth dongle to transfer files back and forth between the main machine and my Nokia E71 Smart Phone. It used to work perfectly under KDE 3.5.10: I'd right-click a file choose 'Actions-->Send via Bluetooth' from the context menu. If I needed to send a bunch of files, I'd enter obex://[My_Phone's_MAC_Address] in the address bar of Konqueror - and I'd get my phone's drives in a file browser window. Now I got the 'Actions' sub-menu to appear, but no Bluetooth option there. If I try to send a file to my phone using the KBluetooth4 tray icon, I get the list of devices found (my phone between them) then it starts to send the file (a progress bar completes to 100%) then it gives me an error: "org.openobex.Error.Not.Found" - and my phone thinks it's still connected. I have no idea how to debug this problem... Under KDE 3.5.10, I could press the F9 key in a Konqueror file window and click the Bluetooth menu under 'Services'. Now, whatever I click in that menu I get an error stating the 'protocol is not supported'. I couldn't find anything with 'apt-cache search' - maybe I just don't know what to look for, which brings me to another issue: I am missing some advanced control modules in the 'System Settings' application. I really liked having all those modules and control options in KControl, and I was able to enter whatever I am looking for in the search field on the top, and it came up with all related modules regarding my search. Now I can search, both in the existing modules and with 'apt-cache' - but I am missing some fundamental modules (to me, at least), like Bluetooth. Another problem is related to my NVidia card and the OpenGL effects (compiz-kde?). When I log in to KDE the screen goes black between the KDM Greeter and the desktop. All the KDE splash screens I tried are not displayed correctly - the elements are scattered around the screen and it all looks very ugly - so I disabled the KDE splash screen altogether. I'd like to have it back, though... I am using version 180 of the NVidia driver, that got installed automatically during the upgrade. I'd appreciate pointers to guides and/or HOWTOs for all NVidia - Kubuntu issues... Googling got me very confused and did not help much. A small cosmetic issue regarding Amarok 2: I used to have my collection listing sorted by the alphabet. Now they still are, but the letters are nowhere to be found. I mean - the dividers in the list between each letter. Is there a way to get it back? Lastly, I am wondering if all of these issues are fixable now or will be fixed with immanent upgrades. I really need my Bluetooth functionality. if this cannot be resolved - I'll have to re-install Kubuntu 8.04 from fresh... I don't want to have to do it. There are a lot of things I like in the new KDE, but still.... Thank you very much for taking the time! .:====================================================:. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ .:====================================================:. Mark Twain - "Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mark_twain.html From derek at pointerstop.ca Fri May 1 13:13:38 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 10:13:38 -0300 Subject: KPacketKit References: <49FAF3AD.8050509@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <259rc6-4m4.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > Would this statement sum up all your comments? for which thank you > > look at the repositories and mirrors for the 'exact' name of the package > required and us apt-get to install it. Certainly not :-) I use aptitude, not apt-get. As for "look at the repositories...", it depends how abstractly you mean that. "aptitude search" and "apt-cache search" usually tell me what I want. I don't generally browse the repository websites. From derek at pointerstop.ca Fri May 1 13:10:42 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 10:10:42 -0300 Subject: Flash and Linux References: <49F69402.7030901@prayingforisrael.net> <49F7D56D.7080209@prayingforisrael.net> <49F839E7.30900@cmosnetworks.com> <87iqkl8900.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: John L Fjellstad wrote: > "Terrell Prude' Jr." writes: > >> fault. The problem is that Flash is a proprietary format and Adobe >> keeps the wraps on said format. > > And by under wraps, you mean publish them on their website: > http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf/ Which is far more open than anything you'll get from ISO or ANSI who have this odd concept that people should pay to access "standards". From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Fri May 1 15:01:05 2009 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 16:01:05 +0100 Subject: Need to connect to internet after installing 9.04 In-Reply-To: <49FA6292.4030005@earthlink.net> References: <49FA6292.4030005@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <49FB0EB1.2020702@yahoo.it> GreyGeek wrote: > thudfoo at gmail.com wrote: >> I ran the live CD version of 9.04. While doing so I was able to add the kppp >> package in order to connect to the internet. Okay, that worked out. Then I >> installed. Now Kubuntu don't no squat about any kppp (or kinternet, for >> that matter). How do I get online with my external modem or get >> kppp/kinternet installed? >> >> >> > Boot the LiveCD and reestablish the Internet connection using Kppp. > > Then download the kpp package but don't install it. Mount your file > system that is on the HD and copy the Kppp package over to it. > > Reboot. > > Install the package. > > Someone else may come up with an easier way. > GG > Wouldn't it be the same to use the package manager of choice from the regularly booted system? By default and without any internet connection, it should go to the cd to find out packages. I'd just try to install Kppp that way before reverting to live cd and manually downloading the packages. HTH, I. From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 1 15:23:59 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: email clients References: <200904291252.11245.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> <87my9x89ix.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: Derek Broughton said: > marc wrote: > >> John L Fjellstad said: >> >>> Derek Broughton writes: >>> >>>> otoh, I do still have the same old problem I've had for 4 years - you >>>> can not hibernate the computer with kmail open and be able to access >>>> the IMAP folders when you resume. You have to exit, restart >>>> kmail/kontact first. otth, I suspect this is actually a dovecot >>>> problem not a kmail one. I wonder why I haven't configured dovecot >>>> to shutdown/resume on hibernate :-) >>> >>> Must be a dovecot problem because I don't see that problem with kmail >>> against courierimap. >> >> As I mentioned, I don't have dovecot installed, so it can't be that. > > That doesn't necessarily follow. It follows. > What IMAP server _do_ you have? If > you say "none", then it isn't the same problem. Er, if you say so. To get this straight, I see the exact same symptoms that Dotan described, I use IMAP exclusively, yet you declare it a different problem. Okay! > This problem is very > specific to having an IMAP folder open in KMail, and has to do with > KMail and/or the IMAP server believing the user is still logged in after > resume, but the session being unusable. Yes, > The original KDE bug was > claimed fixed, but it was never resolved for me. If _either_ KMail or > the IMAP server would force logout a session inactive for "N" minutes, > and the other end would recognize that, it probably wouldn't be a > problem. Hmmm I'll leave you guys to debug. Please ignore my input. But the problem is kmail's handling of IMAP. I betcha. -- Best, Marc From irving.lp at feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu Fri May 1 15:35:02 2009 From: irving.lp at feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu (Irving Leonard) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:35:02 -0400 Subject: Where is my xserver conf??!! In-Reply-To: <200905010803.00925.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200904302058.18099.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> <200905010803.00925.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200905011135.03234.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> On Viernes 01 Mayo 2009 02:03:00 AM Nils Kassube escribió: > Irving Leonard wrote: > > Looking for a way to configure my video chip in jaunty I found that: > > MY /etc/X11/xorg.conf FILE IS EMPTY!!! In hardy I use to change > > things in there to get a better video performance but now IT HAVE > > NOTHING (0B). Where did the configuration go? Where do I change the > > open radeon driver configuration? regards > > The new version of X doesn't need a configuration but does everything > automatically, at least sometimes. Therefore the config file is empty. > But you can still use the config file if you want to. Just copy a > backup from Hardy to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it should work. > > > Nils The problem is that I see my CPU overloaded, with no reason, so I guess it's plasma using the CPU instead the GPU. I have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000IGP and using the open radeon driver (it is loaded, and have direct rendering, so hope I'm using it). How can I make plasma use the video hardware instead my CPU? I thought to configure the driver to test that but I don't want to missuse the great auto-magical configuration of xserver. Is there any other way to ONLY configure my video device (and not the entire xserver)? regards Irving VI Conferencia Internacional de Energía Renovable, Ahorro de Energía y Educación Energética 9 - 12 de Junio 2009, Palacio de las Convenciones ...Por una cultura energética sustentable www.ciercuba.com From jonorland at gmail.com Fri May 1 16:09:33 2009 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:09:33 +0200 Subject: Where is my xserver conf??!! In-Reply-To: <200905011135.03234.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> References: <200904302058.18099.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> <200905010803.00925.kassube@gmx.net> <200905011135.03234.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> Message-ID: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Irving Leonard wrote: > The problem is that I see my CPU overloaded, with no reason, so I guess it's > plasma using the CPU instead the GPU. I have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000IGP > and using the open radeon driver (it is loaded, and have direct rendering, so > hope I'm using it). How can I make plasma use the video hardware instead my > CPU? > I thought to configure the driver to test that but I don't want to missuse the > great auto-magical configuration of xserver. Is there any other way to ONLY > configure my video device (and not the entire xserver)? > regards > Irving There is/was a bug with the calendar plasmoid that would make plasma use a lot of CPU do you by a change use that? / Jonas From derek at pointerstop.ca Fri May 1 15:33:34 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 12:33:34 -0300 Subject: Jaunty Musings References: Message-ID: Amichai Rotman wrote: > Hello all, > > I know I already wrote to the Kubuntu list, but I was not answered - > so I am trying the Ubuntu list too... I'm sure the non-KDE folks will appreciate that... I don't know when you wrote to the Kubuntu list, but I don't see any of the following questions in the few posts I have from you. And please just ask one question per thread. > I use the Bluetooth dongle to transfer files back and forth between > the main machine and my Nokia E71 Smart Phone. It used to work > perfectly under KDE 3.5.10: I'd right-click a file choose > 'Actions-->Send via Bluetooth' from the context menu. If I needed to > send a bunch of files, I'd enter obex://[My_Phone's_MAC_Address] in > the address bar of Konqueror - and I'd get my phone's drives in a file > browser window. I don't know if Bluetooth has been fixed for KDE4 yet - it certainly never worked in 4.1. Is kdebluetooth installed? > > I am missing some advanced control modules in the 'System Settings' > application. I really liked having all those modules and control > options in KControl, and I was able to enter whatever I am looking for > in the search field on the top, and it came up with all related > modules regarding my search. Now I can search, both in the existing > modules and with 'apt-cache' - but I am missing some fundamental > modules (to me, at least), like Bluetooth. Is there a question there? Which modules are you missing? From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Fri May 1 16:24:13 2009 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:24:13 +0100 Subject: KPackageKit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49FB222D.9080900@btinternet.com> Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > > Would this statement sum up all your comments? for which thank you > > > > look at the repositories and mirrors for the 'exact' name of the package > > required and us apt-get to install it. > Certainly not :-) I use aptitude, not apt-get. As for "look at the repositories...", it depends how abstractly you mean that. "aptitude search" and "apt-cache search" usually tell me what I want. I don't generally browse the repository websites. Ta muchly, I now feel I've enough tools to kick kubuntu into submission, where installs are concerned at least. brian From thudfoo at gmail.com Fri May 1 16:24:18 2009 From: thudfoo at gmail.com (thudfoo at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 09:24:18 -0700 Subject: Need to connect to internet after installing 9.04 References: <49FA6292.4030005@earthlink.net> <49FB0EB1.2020702@yahoo.it> Message-ID: Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > GreyGeek wrote: >> thudfoo at gmail.com wrote: >>> I ran the live CD version of 9.04. While doing so I was able to add the >>> kppp package in order to connect to the internet. Okay, that worked out. >>> Then I installed. Now Kubuntu don't no squat about any kppp (or >>> kinternet, for that matter). How do I get online with my external modem >>> or get kppp/kinternet installed? >>> >>> >>> >> Boot the LiveCD and reestablish the Internet connection using Kppp. >> >> Then download the kpp package but don't install it. Mount your file >> system that is on the HD and copy the Kppp package over to it. >> >> Reboot. >> >> Install the package. >> >> Someone else may come up with an easier way. >> GG >> > > > Wouldn't it be the same to use the package manager of choice from the > regularly booted system? By default and without any internet connection, > it should go to the cd to find out packages. I'd just try to install > Kppp that way before reverting to live cd and manually downloading the > packages. > > HTH, > I. That is what I did. That is how I know kppp was not available. I now believe there is something wrong with the package management system. Perhaps things didn't get hooked up correctly because I clicked on the Install on the Desktop while running the Live version rather than choosing Install from the boot menu. From jongleur at liripipe.com Fri May 1 16:39:13 2009 From: jongleur at liripipe.com (John L Vifian) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 09:39:13 -0700 Subject: Jaunty Kmail doesn't restart Message-ID: <200905010939.13499.jongleur@liripipe.com> On my wife's machine after an upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 kmail does not automatically start after logging in. She has System Settings->Session Manager->Restore previous session chosen. Other applications such as FireFox do get restored. TIA John Vifian -- It has been said that the primary function of schools is to impart enough facts to make children stop asking questions. Some, with whom the schools do not succeed, become scientists. - Knut Schmidt-Nielson From TonySivori at yahoo.com Fri May 1 16:58:36 2009 From: TonySivori at yahoo.com (Tony Sivori) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 12:58:36 -0400 Subject: codec for .wmv with audio v3 Message-ID: I'm running 8.04 and KDE 3.5. All updates are installed. Recently I'm getting no sound from some videos. I know it is possible that the poster posted a defective file, but they all seem to be the same type (.wmv) and xine always shows the same error: .wmv unsupported codec: Audio Codec: Windows Media Audio v3 (0x16) Here's an example: message-id: <49f24311$0$27405$6d4158fb at reader.xsnews.nl-6ba8957d> Results are the same, video but no sound with xine, Mplayer, VLC media player, Avidemux, Helix, and Kaffiene. Kaffiene tries to install a codec, but gives an error that the "codec package is already installed". Any help, or any idea of when audio support for v3 wmv files will be added? -- Tony Sivori Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters. From derek at pointerstop.ca Fri May 1 16:22:10 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:22:10 -0300 Subject: email clients References: <200904291252.11245.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> <87my9x89ix.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: marc wrote: > Derek Broughton said: > >> marc wrote: >> >>> As I mentioned, I don't have dovecot installed, so it can't be that. >> >> That doesn't necessarily follow. > > It follows. > >> What IMAP server _do_ you have? If >> you say "none", then it isn't the same problem. > > Er, if you say so. You didn't answer. What IMAP server do you have? > > To get this straight, I see the exact same symptoms that Dotan described, I believe that was me and it doesn't appear to be the same based on the information you've given so far. From GreyGeek at earthlink.net Fri May 1 18:06:13 2009 From: GreyGeek at earthlink.net (GreyGeek) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:06:13 -0500 Subject: Flash and Linux In-Reply-To: <87iqkl8900.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <49F69402.7030901@prayingforisrael.net> <49F7D56D.7080209@prayingforisrael.net> <49F839E7.30900@cmosnetworks.com> <87iqkl8900.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <49FB3A15.3090500@earthlink.net> John L Fjellstad wrote: > "Terrell Prude' Jr." writes: > > >> fault. The problem is that Flash is a proprietary format and Adobe >> keeps the wraps on said format. >> > > And by under wraps, you mean publish them on their website: > http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf/ > > Which doesn't mean squat when you follow the License trail began at your URL: "Adobe seriously considers all feedback to the SWF file format specification. E-mail any unclear or potentially erroneous information within the specification to Adobe at flashformat at adobe.com. All such email submissions shall be subject to the Submitted Materials guidelines in the Terms of Use at www.adobe.com/misc/copyright.html." Which leads to http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/ That EULA includes a DRM which prevents me including a quote in order to point out to you that you that like any proprietary license they have ALL the rights and you have none, except to pay them money when ever they deem necessary. (I thought I had a constitutionally protected right of "Fair Use"? Just because I can't afford a lawyer to protect my rights, if only one can even do it, I have no rights at all?) The GPL it is not. Yes, it IS UNDER WRAPS. Just try an change or improve the source and see what rights you really have. And, I don't doubt for a second that if market conditions made the SWF the only game in town a per-use subscription service would immediately follow, soon to be followed by the MS model of software development. From GreyGeek at earthlink.net Fri May 1 18:18:23 2009 From: GreyGeek at earthlink.net (GreyGeek) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:18:23 -0500 Subject: KPacketKit In-Reply-To: <49FAF3AD.8050509@btinternet.com> References: <49FAF3AD.8050509@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <49FB3CEF.7020105@earthlink.net> Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > Billie Walsh wrote: > > > >>> Derek Broughton wrote: >>> >> >> >>>>> Billie Walsh wrote: >>>>> >>> >>> > > >>>>>>> Install Synaptic. Kpackagekit is a waste of disk space. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> But synaptic is a _bigger_ waste, as it pulls in so much of Gnome... :-) >>>>> >>> >>> >>> At least Synaptic works. More than can be said for Kpackagekit. >>> >> >> > > But it doesn't work _well_. I've never found synaptic useful, and I have > actually used it on and off ever since it was first introduced (I just > deleted it off my system again, this morning). > > Your statement is so common on forums these days. Some people assume that their experience, regardless of its cause, reflects *everyone's* experience, so the software "must" be bad for everyone. Synaptic works VERY WELL for me, so with equal conviction and proof I could claim that it works VERY WELL for everyone. I especially like the dated history list which reminds me when I installed or updated any particular application without having to do some CLI greping of the local archive. BTW, I don't have a problem with KPackageKit, I just prefer the way Synaptic looks, feels and works. That it brings in some GNOME utilities in order to do its job is of no concern to me. Both the GNOME and KDE developers are working together to assure the interoperability of their respective desktops. Who knows? Sometime in the future a common desktop may appear which uses a single set of utilities and applications, but which are compiled from GTK+ and QT sources through a single "translator", creating a common platform which would allow any GPL or proprietary app to exist transparently. I believe that such a effort is called "The Portland Project". From GreyGeek at earthlink.net Fri May 1 18:22:54 2009 From: GreyGeek at earthlink.net (GreyGeek) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:22:54 -0500 Subject: Need to connect to internet after installing 9.04 In-Reply-To: <49FB0EB1.2020702@yahoo.it> References: <49FA6292.4030005@earthlink.net> <49FB0EB1.2020702@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <49FB3DFE.7050502@earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From GreyGeek at earthlink.net Fri May 1 18:24:37 2009 From: GreyGeek at earthlink.net (GreyGeek) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:24:37 -0500 Subject: Need to connect to internet after installing 9.04 In-Reply-To: References: <49FA6292.4030005@earthlink.net> <49FB0EB1.2020702@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <49FB3E65.9020903@earthlink.net> thudfoo at gmail.com wrote: > Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > > >> GreyGeek wrote: >> >>> thudfoo at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> I ran the live CD version of 9.04. While doing so I was able to add the >>>> kppp package in order to connect to the internet. Okay, that worked out. >>>> Then I installed. Now Kubuntu don't no squat about any kppp (or >>>> kinternet, for that matter). How do I get online with my external modem >>>> or get kppp/kinternet installed? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Boot the LiveCD and reestablish the Internet connection using Kppp. >>> >>> Then download the kpp package but don't install it. Mount your file >>> system that is on the HD and copy the Kppp package over to it. >>> >>> Reboot. >>> >>> Install the package. >>> >>> Someone else may come up with an easier way. >>> GG >>> >>> >> Wouldn't it be the same to use the package manager of choice from the >> regularly booted system? By default and without any internet connection, >> it should go to the cd to find out packages. I'd just try to install >> Kppp that way before reverting to live cd and manually downloading the >> packages. >> >> HTH, >> I. >> > > That is what I did. That is how I know kppp was not available. I now believe > there is something wrong with the package management system. Perhaps things > didn't get hooked up correctly because I clicked on the Install on the > Desktop while running the Live version rather than choosing Install from > the boot menu. > > > mmm... I used the install from the boot menu on this laptop, and on five others I used the install from the desktop (after making sure Kubuntu would run on them OK without a lot of putzing. All installed beautifully. GG From claydoh at midmaine.com Fri May 1 19:11:41 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:11:41 -0400 Subject: Jaunty Musings In-Reply-To: <49FB44D5.1080509@comcast.net> References: <49FB44D5.1080509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200905011511.41660.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Friday 01 May 2009 2:52:05 pm Ian L. Target wrote: > Amichai Rotman wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I know I already wrote to the Kubuntu list, but I was not answered - > > so I am trying the Ubuntu list too... > > > > I recently upgraded from Kubuntu 8.04 to Kubuntu 9.04 using the online > > method. > > > > I was actually surprised to see how smoothly the upgrade process was. > > I was pretty sure it will break my system and I'd have to re-install > > from scratch... > > > > I am trying to get used to the new concepts introduced in KDE 4.2.2, > > I also am surprised at the ease of my upgrade. I went from 8.04 to 9.04 > no problem. > > However, my desktop is rather slow, not to mention I just don't like the > looks of it. Are there any alternatives to using the plasma-type > stuff? I don't think my older computer can handle of that graphics > stuff. Where do you go to change the the settings? And once I get > there, can anyone suggest a simpler (quicker, less CPU intensive) > desktop? The more plain and simple, the better. > > Ian You can turn off desktop effects in System Settings / Desktop area (or use alt- shift-f12 key combo to toggle). That should help a lot there for you There are *many* other so-called 'light' desktops. Many like Xfce (Xubuntu for example). Most do not have any of the tools and features that make up Ubuntu and Kubuntu, but Xubuntu is a nice balance of lightness and features http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments http://linuxreviews.org/dictionary/Desktop_environment/ Many if not all are available to Kubuntu, and add entries into KDM the package xubuntu-desktop will install Xubuntu just like you would install Ubuntu alongside of Kubuntu. I usually have fluxbox installed as a sort of backup desktop on my laptop. It is rather minimal, though there are even more plain ones than that -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 1 19:28:52 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:28:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: email clients References: <200904291252.11245.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> <87my9x89ix.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: Derek Broughton said: > marc wrote: > >> Derek Broughton said: >> >>> marc wrote: >>> >>>> As I mentioned, I don't have dovecot installed, so it can't be that. >>> >>> That doesn't necessarily follow. >> >> It follows. >> >>> What IMAP server _do_ you have? If >>> you say "none", then it isn't the same problem. >> >> Er, if you say so. > > You didn't answer. What IMAP server do you have? I don't have a local IMAP server. I use a number of different ones remotely. >> To get this straight, I see the exact same symptoms that Dotan >> described, > > I believe that was me and it doesn't appear to be the same based on the > information you've given so far. Okay, I've lost the plot on this thread. So, I'll leave you guys to it. -- Best, Marc From claydoh at midmaine.com Fri May 1 20:09:19 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 16:09:19 -0400 Subject: Jaunty Musings In-Reply-To: <49FB4E5D.9050504@comcast.net> References: <200905011511.41660.claydoh@midmaine.com> <49FB4E5D.9050504@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200905011609.20086.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Friday 01 May 2009 3:32:45 pm Ian L. Target wrote: > Clay Weber wrote: > > shift-f12 key combo to toggle). That should help a lot there for you > > > > There are *many* other so-called 'light' desktops. Many like Xfce > > (Xubuntu for example). Most do not have any of the tools and features > > that make up Ubuntu and Kubuntu, but Xubuntu is a nice balance of > > lightness and features > > OK, I am a little confused. Are you saying that if I want to use KDE > that I am now stuck with this plasma stuff? Kind of. Plamsa is the name of the part of KDE that draws the desktop, among other things. It also manages the plasma-widgets and desktop effects, which you can turn off or not use. Your taskbar and system tray and kmenu are plasma widgets for example, just like all the other little tools. Desktop effects are what usually slows down older hardware, the next thing being video drivers. My 2004-ish laptop with a 32mb ati gpu seems to do ok with desktop effects, but I disable it if i do a lot of heavy work. I just can't live without wobbly windows, I think I am addicted :) you can also switch to a 'tradiditonal' desktop layout and kmenu setup as well if you wish -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri May 1 20:30:58 2009 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 16:30:58 -0400 Subject: Jaunty Musings In-Reply-To: <49FB4E5D.9050504@comcast.net> References: <200905011511.41660.claydoh@midmaine.com> <49FB4E5D.9050504@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200905011630.58976.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 01 May 2009, Ian L. Target wrote: > OK, I am a little confused. Are you saying that if I want to use KDE > that I am now stuck with this plasma stuff? Yup.... which is why many people are switching to XFCE. I load up kubuntu and then load up XFCE. Thus I get all the KDE apps I want (but no plasmoids whatever they are) and a simple, low-overhead desktop. Maybe someday I'll get back to KDE. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From claydoh at midmaine.com Fri May 1 20:38:54 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 16:38:54 -0400 Subject: Jaunty Musings In-Reply-To: <49FB5A80.3030007@comcast.net> References: <200905011609.20086.claydoh@midmaine.com> <49FB5A80.3030007@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200905011638.54361.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Friday 01 May 2009 4:24:32 pm Ian L. Target wrote: > Clay Weber wrote: > > you can also switch to a 'tradiditonal' desktop layout and kmenu setup as > > well if you wish > > Yes! How do I do this? I am kind of embarrassed as I am usually able > to figure these things out just by playing with the settings. Not this > time though. > > Also, I had K-Mail up for less than five minutes before it crashed . . . first, right-click somewhere on your desktop and select "Appearance Settings" Then, at the top, select "Folder View" in the "type" section. Click "apply" and viola! After that, you can right-click on your desktop again and find other settings related to your new setup, like icon size, etc. To switch the kmenu, simply right-click on the icon and select "Switch to Classic Menu Style" -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 1 20:39:28 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 20:39:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty Musings References: <200905011511.41660.claydoh@midmaine.com> <49FB4E5D.9050504@comcast.net> <200905011609.20086.claydoh@midmaine.com> <49FB5A80.3030007@comcast.net> Message-ID: Ian L. Target said: > Clay Weber wrote: >> you can also switch to a 'tradiditonal' desktop layout and kmenu setup >> as well if you wish >> >> >> > > Yes! How do I do this? I am kind of embarrassed as I am usually able > to figure these things out just by playing with the settings. Not this > time though. Sounds like most of us coming to KDE4. It's still a bit of a mess, I'm afraid, but it's a lot better than it was. The mess that remains we have become used to... just like folk do every day with Windows :-) > Also, I had K-Mail up for less than five minutes before it crashed . . . Yeah, it's flaky as heck. Shame. Please file a bug, though, if you have enough ammo. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 1 21:13:01 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty Musings References: <200905011609.20086.claydoh@midmaine.com> <49FB5A80.3030007@comcast.net> <200905011638.54361.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: Clay Weber said: > Click "apply" and viola! You have the start of an orchestra! Voilà! -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 1 21:16:52 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty Musings References: <200905011511.41660.claydoh@midmaine.com> <49FB4E5D.9050504@comcast.net> <200905011630.58976.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: Bruce Marshall said: > On Friday 01 May 2009, Ian L. Target wrote: >> OK, I am a little confused. Are you saying that if I want to use KDE >> that I am now stuck with this plasma stuff? > > Yup.... which is why many people are switching to XFCE. I load up > kubuntu and then load up XFCE. Thus I get all the KDE apps I want > (but no plasmoids whatever they are) and a simple, low-overhead desktop. Though you do suffer the overhead of having to load the kde libs, which can slow things down for a while after logging in; it's very noticeable on a laptop. XFCE is quite gnome like, so gnome is also an option; at least it doesn't have the plasmoids overhead. The lack of control in gnome is a pain, but as long as I have my kde apps, then it's bearable. > Maybe someday I'll get back to KDE. It's tough going, eh? -- Best, Marc From thudfoo at gmail.com Fri May 1 21:22:50 2009 From: thudfoo at gmail.com (thudfoo at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 14:22:50 -0700 Subject: Where are the uninstalled packages after installation of Kubuntu 9.04 Message-ID: I installed Kubuntu 9.04 from a DVD. I ran it first in Live mode, installed the kppp package from the DVD through Add/Remove Software, then configured and connected through my external modem. All seemed well. Today I again did a new install from the DVD. After doing so, kppp is not shown in the Add/Remove Software section of System Settings. Indeed, no uninstalled packages are shown at all. What can I do now? I want to able to view/install uninstalled packages. From claydoh at midmaine.com Fri May 1 21:34:58 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 17:34:58 -0400 Subject: Where are the uninstalled packages after installation of Kubuntu 9.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905011734.59322.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Friday 01 May 2009 5:22:50 pm thudfoo at gmail.com wrote: > I installed Kubuntu 9.04 from a DVD. I ran it first in Live mode, installed > the kppp package from the DVD through Add/Remove Software, then configured > and connected through my external modem. All seemed well. Today I again did > a new install from the DVD. After doing so, kppp is not shown in the > Add/Remove Software section of System Settings. Indeed, no uninstalled > packages are shown at all. What can I do now? I want to able to > view/install uninstalled packages. They are on the dvd. But you may have to check out the software sources config to make sure that the cdrom is enabled. it isn't enabled by default because most people don't keep their install disk in the drive all the time :) Once you enable the cdrom there, and refresh, you should be able to install packages from the disk -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri May 1 22:19:02 2009 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:19:02 -0400 Subject: Jaunty Musings In-Reply-To: <49FB6604.6070002@comcast.net> References: <200905011630.58976.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <49FB6604.6070002@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200905011819.02798.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 01 May 2009, Ian L. Target wrote: > > Yup.... which is why many people are switching to XFCE. I load up > > kubuntu and then load up XFCE. Thus I get all the KDE apps I want (but > > no plasmoids whatever they are) and a simple, low-overhead desktop. > > > > > > Maybe someday I'll get back to KDE. > > Didn't Clay's message (this thread, a couple of messages back) work for > you? Uhhh I wasn't the one with the problem. I switched to XFCE about 4 months ago... When I first tried Intrepid. Very happy with XFCE (and I wouldn't want to force KDE4 on my wife. that's a non-starter!) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The "Ubuntu netbook remix" was loaded on my netbook (by me) and I had more problems trying to get rid of Gnome than in loading up XFCE. Things are fine now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Fri May 1 23:42:04 2009 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 00:42:04 +0100 Subject: Need to connect to internet after installing 9.04 In-Reply-To: <49FB3DFE.7050502@earthlink.net> References: <49FA6292.4030005@earthlink.net> <49FB0EB1.2020702@yahoo.it> <49FB3DFE.7050502@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <49FB88CC.9070808@yahoo.it> GreyGeek wrote: > Ignazio Palmisano wrote: >> GreyGeek wrote: >> >>> thudfoo at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> I ran the live CD version of 9.04. While doing so I was able to add the kppp >>>> package in order to connect to the internet. Okay, that worked out. Then I >>>> installed. Now Kubuntu don't no squat about any kppp (or kinternet, for >>>> that matter). How do I get online with my external modem or get >>>> kppp/kinternet installed? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Boot the LiveCD and reestablish the Internet connection using Kppp. >>> >>> Then download the kpp package but don't install it. Mount your file >>> system that is on the HD and copy the Kppp package over to it. >>> >>> Reboot. >>> >>> Install the package. >>> >>> Someone else may come up with an easier way. >>> GG >>> >>> >> >> >> Wouldn't it be the same to use the package manager of choice from the >> regularly booted system? By default and without any internet connection, >> it should go to the cd to find out packages. I'd just try to install >> Kppp that way before reverting to live cd and manually downloading the >> packages. >> >> HTH, >> I. >> >> >> > I don't know. I've never perused the CD to see what *.deb packages it contains > from which applications should be installed. > Do you have a URL off the top of your head that lists them? ("thinking to > myself how lazy I am...:)" Uhm no but last time I needed Kppp I found it already installed (I believe that was Kubuntu 7.04); if it wasn't installed, then it was on the CD and I installed it through the package manager (which was Synaptic - I can't stand Adept) because for sure I didn't download it from the net (that was the very thing I was trying to set up...). HTH, I. From derek at pointerstop.ca Fri May 1 19:44:19 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 16:44:19 -0300 Subject: KPacketKit References: <49FAF3AD.8050509@btinternet.com> <49FB3CEF.7020105@earthlink.net> Message-ID: GreyGeek wrote: >>>> Derek Broughton wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> But synaptic is a _bigger_ waste, as it pulls in so much of Gnome... >>>>>> :-) >>>> >>>> At least Synaptic works. More than can be said for Kpackagekit. >> >> But it doesn't work _well_. I've never found synaptic useful, and I have >> actually used it on and off ever since it was first introduced (I just >> deleted it off my system again, this morning). >> >> > Your statement is so common on forums these days. First, of all, I don't do "forums"... > Some people assume > that their experience, regardless of its cause, reflects *everyone's* > experience, so the software "must" be bad for everyone. You just drop in here and think you can teach your grandmother ... My experience with Synaptic (mediocre, at best) is backed by a large amount of feedback from users over the last 10+ years. But then again, I didn't say it was "bad", I called it a waste of space (on a KDE system) and said that it didn't work "well" - as in, it is still too hard to do things that should be trivial, and the UI is weak. > BTW, I don't have a problem with KPackageKit, I just prefer the way > Synaptic looks, feels and works. That it brings in some GNOME utilities > in order to do its job is of no concern to me. Both the GNOME and KDE > developers are working together to assure the interoperability of their > respective desktops. Where do you get that idea? Gnome and KDE developers will work together when hell freezes over. > Who knows? Sometime in the future a common > desktop may appear which uses a single set of utilities and LOL. We've _had_ common desktops - nobody wants them. They're so ... common. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri May 1 23:59:13 2009 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:59:13 -0400 Subject: KPacketKit In-Reply-To: References: <49FB3CEF.7020105@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200905011959.13676.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 01 May 2009, Derek Broughton wrote: > My experience with Synaptic (mediocre, at best) is backed by a large amount > of feedback from users over the last 10+ years. But then again, I didn't > say it was "bad", I called it a waste of space (on a KDE system) and said > that it didn't work "well" - as in, it is still too hard to do things that > should be trivial, and the UI is weak. So what do you suggest people use? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From derek at pointerstop.ca Sat May 2 00:07:33 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 21:07:33 -0300 Subject: Jaunty Musings References: <200905011511.41660.claydoh@midmaine.com> <49FB4E5D.9050504@comcast.net> <200905011609.20086.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <5ffsc6-crs.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> Clay Weber wrote: > I just can't live without wobbly > windows, I think I am addicted :) Sounds like it. Since I am easily addicted, I guess it's a darn good thing I never tried them. Wobbly windows are probably one of those infamous gateway effects. I wonder what's next... From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com Sat May 2 00:12:21 2009 From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 20:12:21 -0400 Subject: Where are the uninstalled packages after installation of Kubuntu 9.04 In-Reply-To: <200905011734.59322.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <200905011734.59322.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <49FB8FE5.8070507@ajinfosearch.com> Clay Weber wrote: >> What can I do now? I want to able to >> view/install uninstalled packages. > > They are on the dvd. But you may have to check out the software sources config > to make sure that the cdrom is enabled. it isn't enabled by default because > most people don't keep their install disk in the drive all the time :) > Once you enable the cdrom there, and refresh, you should be able to install > packages from the disk If you still have trouble after activating the CD in your software sources, you can download the correct .deb files, copy them to your 9.04 system and manually install them. go here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/ppp/ That should at least get you connected so you can install kppp. I couldn't find it with a quick search -- Alan "The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated concept. If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in life and actually grok it." From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com Sat May 2 00:19:29 2009 From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 20:19:29 -0400 Subject: Jaunty Musings In-Reply-To: <5ffsc6-crs.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> References: <200905011511.41660.claydoh@midmaine.com> <49FB4E5D.9050504@comcast.net> <200905011609.20086.claydoh@midmaine.com> <5ffsc6-crs.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <49FB9191.9030308@ajinfosearch.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > Clay Weber wrote: > >> I just can't live without wobbly >> windows, I think I am addicted :) > > Sounds like it. Since I am easily addicted, I guess it's a darn good thing > I never tried them. Wobbly windows are probably one of those infamous > gateway effects. I wonder what's next... > > The Chong effect, closed windows go up in smoke. -- Alan "The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated concept. If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in life and actually grok it." From claydoh at midmaine.com Sat May 2 00:43:05 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 20:43:05 -0400 Subject: Jaunty Musings In-Reply-To: <5ffsc6-crs.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> References: <200905011609.20086.claydoh@midmaine.com> <5ffsc6-crs.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <200905012043.05585.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Friday 01 May 2009 8:07:33 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > Clay Weber wrote: > > I just can't live without wobbly > > windows, I think I am addicted :) > > Sounds like it. Since I am easily addicted, I guess it's a darn good thing > I never tried them. Wobbly windows are probably one of those infamous > gateway effects. I wonder what's next... Desktop cube or cylinder or sphere - luckily not supported by the OS driver on my laptop -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From claydoh at midmaine.com Sat May 2 00:46:35 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 20:46:35 -0400 Subject: Jaunty Musings In-Reply-To: <5ffsc6-crs.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> References: <200905011609.20086.claydoh@midmaine.com> <5ffsc6-crs.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <200905012046.35870.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Friday 01 May 2009 8:07:33 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > Clay Weber wrote: > > I just can't live without wobbly > > windows, I think I am addicted :) > > Sounds like it. Since I am easily addicted, I guess it's a darn good thing > I never tried them. Wobbly windows are probably one of those infamous > gateway effects. I wonder what's next... Desktop cube/sphere/cylinder, I think. Luckily the OS drivers for my old laptop don't support them -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From johndecarlo at gmail.com Sat May 2 01:47:19 2009 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:47:19 -0400 Subject: USB Memory Stick not Automounting (or manually mounting) In-Reply-To: <49F871F7.3070001@rlknight.com> References: <49F871F7.3070001@rlknight.com> Message-ID: <3dde113c0905011847o75ac1c94j39f68a9483656ec8@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Rick Knight wrote: > I've run "sudo tail -f > /var/log/messages" and watched the output while inserting the Memory > Stick, but there is no response. This has always just worked in the past > so I'm not sure what to do to fix the problem. Anyone able to offer any > help? > I guess my first test would be to run "lspci" in a terminal and see if the USB controllers on your system show up. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500&ref=mf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 2 02:05:24 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:05:24 -0400 Subject: codec for .wmv with audio v3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905012205.24519.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Friday 01 May 2009 12:58:36 pm Tony Sivori wrote: > I'm running 8.04 and KDE 3.5. All updates are installed. > > Recently I'm getting no sound from some videos. I know it is possible that > the poster posted a defective file, but they all seem to be the same type > (.wmv) and xine always shows the same error: > > .wmv unsupported codec: > Audio Codec: Windows Media Audio v3 (0x16) > > Here's an example: > message-id: <49f24311$0$27405$6d4158fb at reader.xsnews.nl-6ba8957d> > > Results are the same, video but no sound with xine, Mplayer, VLC media > player, Avidemux, Helix, and Kaffiene. Kaffiene tries to install a codec, > but gives an error that the "codec package is already installed". > > Any help, or any idea of when audio support for v3 wmv files will be > added? > > -- > Tony Sivori > Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters. It is something new. I don't even download them, because they never work. they will dry up for Linux users, because they are always the same, a waste of download time. I use Ktorrent. When I don't notice and download a .wmv, I don't upload what I have downloaded, because I have wasted enough time, and the person I am not supplying data is about to be disappointed too, I believe. Perhaps they work on Windows machines, but I don't think so. Steven From thudfoo at gmail.com Sat May 2 02:12:40 2009 From: thudfoo at gmail.com (thudfoo at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 19:12:40 -0700 Subject: Where are the uninstalled packages after installation of Kubuntu 9.04 References: <200905011734.59322.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: Clay Weber wrote: > On Friday 01 May 2009 5:22:50 pm thudfoo at gmail.com wrote: >> I installed Kubuntu 9.04 from a DVD. I ran it first in Live mode, >> installed the kppp package from the DVD through Add/Remove Software, then >> configured and connected through my external modem. All seemed well. >> Today I again did a new install from the DVD. After doing so, kppp is not >> shown in the Add/Remove Software section of System Settings. Indeed, no >> uninstalled packages are shown at all. What can I do now? I want to able >> to view/install uninstalled packages. > > They are on the dvd. But you may have to check out the software sources > config to make sure that the cdrom is enabled. it isn't enabled by default > because most people don't keep their install disk in the drive all the > time :) Once you enable the cdrom there, and refresh, you should be able > to install packages from the disk Discovered this shortly after posting/bleating. Thanks to all. opensuse handles this differently: it enables every known repository in the galaxy and prompts for CD/DVD repository. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat May 2 02:14:27 2009 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 22:14:27 -0400 Subject: KPacketKit In-Reply-To: References: <49FB3CEF.7020105@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200905012214.27379.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Friday 01 May 2009, Derek Broughton wrote: >GreyGeek wrote: >>>>> Derek Broughton wrote: >>>>>>> But synaptic is a _bigger_ waste, as it pulls in so much of Gnome... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> :-) >>>>> >>>>> At least Synaptic works. More than can be said for Kpackagekit. >>> >>> But it doesn't work _well_. I've never found synaptic useful, and I have >>> actually used it on and off ever since it was first introduced (I just >>> deleted it off my system again, this morning). >> >> Your statement is so common on forums these days. > >First, of all, I don't do "forums"... > >> Some people assume >> that their experience, regardless of its cause, reflects *everyone's* >> experience, so the software "must" be bad for everyone. > >You just drop in here and think you can teach your grandmother ... > >My experience with Synaptic (mediocre, at best) is backed by a large amount >of feedback from users over the last 10+ years. But then again, I didn't >say it was "bad", I called it a waste of space (on a KDE system) and said >that it didn't work "well" - as in, it is still too hard to do things that >should be trivial, and the UI is weak. > >> BTW, I don't have a problem with KPackageKit, I just prefer the way >> Synaptic looks, feels and works. That it brings in some GNOME utilities >> in order to do its job is of no concern to me. Both the GNOME and KDE >> developers are working together to assure the interoperability of their >> respective desktops. > >Where do you get that idea? Gnome and KDE developers will work together >when hell freezes over. > You must have missed the memo then. I can use just about any gnome app I want to, on a kde system. Heck, even gstreamer will run. Note I didn't say it worked, cuz I hear it doesn't work on gnome either. :) >> Who knows? Sometime in the future a common >> desktop may appear which uses a single set of utilities and > >LOL. We've _had_ common desktops - nobody wants them. They're so ... >common. Chuckle. I guess. I see it as 'gnome' wanting to be a nanny & keep you from shooting yourself in the foot (or higher), while 'kde' even helps you choose the caliber of the gun you'll use. At my age, I don't _think_ I need a nanny, not just yet anyway, and can get quite exasperated with gnomes near constant nagging. And I'm _quite_ familiar with firearms, so I'm capable of making a better selection than even kde, which doesn't question my expertise a bit. I sorta like it that way. ;-) -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Studies prove that research causes cancer in 43% of laboratory rats knghtbrd- yeah, but 78% of those statistics are off by 52%... From rick_knight at rlknight.com Sat May 2 04:45:00 2009 From: rick_knight at rlknight.com (Rick Knight) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 21:45:00 -0700 Subject: USB Memory Stick not Automounting (or manually mounting) In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0905011847o75ac1c94j39f68a9483656ec8@mail.gmail.com> References: <49F871F7.3070001@rlknight.com> <3dde113c0905011847o75ac1c94j39f68a9483656ec8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FBCFCC.6020201@rlknight.com> John DeCarlo wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Rick Knight > > wrote: > > I've run "sudo tail -f > /var/log/messages" and watched the output while inserting the Memory > Stick, but there is no response. This has always just worked in > the past > so I'm not sure what to do to fix the problem. Anyone able to > offer any > help? > > > I guess my first test would be to run "lspci" in a terminal and see if > the USB controllers on your system show up. > > -- > John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500&ref=mf > John, Thanks for your reply. It turned out the problem was a dead USB port. I didn't know a single USB port could go bad while the others are all fine, but it seems to have done so. Anyway, I guess I'll be looking for a new MB soon. Thanks again, Rick From mailinglist at endosquid.com Sat May 2 12:44:59 2009 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 08:44:59 -0400 Subject: codec for .wmv with audio v3 In-Reply-To: <200905012205.24519.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905012205.24519.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905020844.59456.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Friday 01 May 2009, Steven Vollom wrote: > On Friday 01 May 2009 12:58:36 pm Tony Sivori wrote: > > I'm running 8.04 and KDE 3.5. All updates are installed. > > > > Recently I'm getting no sound from some videos. I know it is possible > > that the poster posted a defective file, but they all seem to be the same > > type (.wmv) and xine always shows the same error: > > > > .wmv unsupported codec: > > Audio Codec: Windows Media Audio v3 (0x16) > > > > Here's an example: > > message-id: <49f24311$0$27405$6d4158fb at reader.xsnews.nl-6ba8957d> > > > > Results are the same, video but no sound with xine, Mplayer, VLC media > > player, Avidemux, Helix, and Kaffiene. Kaffiene tries to install a codec, > > but gives an error that the "codec package is already installed". > > > > Any help, or any idea of when audio support for v3 wmv files will be > > added? > > > > -- > > Tony Sivori > > Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters. > > It is something new. I don't even download them, because they never work. > they will dry up for Linux users, because they are always the same, a waste > of download time. I use Ktorrent. When I don't notice and download a > .wmv, I don't upload what I have downloaded, because I have wasted enough > time, and the person I am not supplying data is about to be disappointed > too, I believe. Perhaps they work on Windows machines, but I don't think > so. I download a ton of wmv files...and honestly, I have never had one without sound. I can't seem to figure out how to loop through all of the wmv files in a dir and get the audio info on it...mplayer -identify in a for loop wouldn't play nice and xine has no listed option...Anyone know of a method in a for loop? From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 2 13:54:26 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 15:54:26 +0200 Subject: codec for .wmv with audio v3 In-Reply-To: <200905020844.59456.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <200905012205.24519.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905020844.59456.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <200905021554.26283.kassube@gmx.net> Brendan wrote: > I download a ton of wmv files...and honestly, I have never had one > without sound. I can't seem to figure out how to loop through all of > the wmv files in a dir and get the audio info on it...mplayer > -identify in a for loop wouldn't play nice and xine has no listed > option...Anyone know of a method in a for loop? What's your problem with mplayer -identify? How about this loop? for f in $(find -iname \*.wmv);do echo -n "$f " mplayer -identify -nosound -novideo "$f" |grep ID_AUDIO_ID done 2>/dev/null Nils From derek at pointerstop.ca Sat May 2 00:10:57 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 21:10:57 -0300 Subject: email clients References: <200904291252.11245.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> <87my9x89ix.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: marc wrote: > Derek Broughton said: > >> marc wrote: >> >>> Derek Broughton said: >>> >>>> marc wrote: >>>> >>>>> As I mentioned, I don't have dovecot installed, so it can't be that. >>>> >>>> That doesn't necessarily follow. >>> >>> It follows. >>> >>>> What IMAP server _do_ you have? If >>>> you say "none", then it isn't the same problem. >>> >>> Er, if you say so. >> >> You didn't answer. What IMAP server do you have? > > I don't have a local IMAP server. I use a number of different ones > remotely. So what are they using? If you don't know, you can't know it's the same issue. > Okay, I've lost the plot on this thread. So, I'll leave you guys to it. > There's never been a "plot" because I mentioned a long-standing bug, and you told us you had the same one, but don't actually want to give us the details. From derek at pointerstop.ca Sat May 2 00:25:02 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 21:25:02 -0300 Subject: KPacketKit References: <49FB3CEF.7020105@earthlink.net> <200905011959.13676.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Friday 01 May 2009, Derek Broughton wrote: >> My experience with Synaptic (mediocre, at best) is backed by a large >> amount >> of feedback from users over the last 10+ years. But then again, I didn't >> say it was "bad", I called it a waste of space (on a KDE system) and said >> that it didn't work "well" - as in, it is still too hard to do things >> that should be trivial, and the UI is weak. > > So what do you suggest people use? I'm starting to feel like an echo. Brian already asked that in this thread... I don't "recommend" any GUI tools, as I haven't been happy with them since Corel Linux, and their awesome (for the time) kpackage, bit the bullet, but I _use_ aptitude. From derek at pointerstop.ca Sat May 2 15:00:30 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 12:00:30 -0300 Subject: KPacketKit References: <49FB3CEF.7020105@earthlink.net> <200905012214.27379.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 01 May 2009, Derek Broughton wrote: >>GreyGeek wrote: >>> Both the GNOME and KDE >>> developers are working together to assure the interoperability of their >>> respective desktops. >> >>Where do you get that idea? Gnome and KDE developers will work together >>when hell freezes over. >> > You must have missed the memo then. I can use just about any gnome app I > want to, on a kde system. Heck, even gstreamer will run. Note I didn't > say it worked, cuz I hear it doesn't work on gnome either. :) Sure you can - but that's in no sense "interoperability". It just means you can run gnome apps on your KDE desktop. We still don't even have the ability to use KDE file dialogs in GTK apps without geeky kludges. > >>> Who knows? Sometime in the future a common >>> desktop may appear which uses a single set of utilities and >> >>LOL. We've _had_ common desktops - nobody wants them. They're so ... >>common. > > Chuckle. I guess. I see it as 'gnome' wanting to be a nanny & keep you > from shooting yourself in the foot (or higher), while 'kde' even helps you > choose the caliber of the gun you'll use. I don't even know if your gnome analogy is correct, because I try gnome every year or so and get practically instantly turned off, but your response and mine are both reasons why we'll end up with _more_ desktops, not fewer. What _could_ happen is not a common desktop, but a common desktop _abstraction_, that will allow programmers to develop an application independent of the desktop on which it will run, and then KDE or Gnome or whatever DE you want would be more like a theme. But I'd be willing to bet that such a move would come from _outside_ either KDE or Gnome, not from KDE & Gnome developers working together. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 2 16:46:16 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:46:16 -0400 Subject: Jaunty Musings In-Reply-To: <49FB65A8.1000705@comcast.net> References: <49FB65A8.1000705@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200905021246.16052.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Friday 01 May 2009 05:12:08 pm Ian L. Target wrote: > marc wrote: > > Ian L. Target said: > >> Also, I had K-Mail up for less than five minutes before it crashed . . . > > > > Yeah, it's flaky as heck. Shame. Please file a bug, though, if you have > > enough ammo. > > I am much to lazy to file a bug! I don't use K-mail enough to warrant > the effort. I only use it (with an alias) for, well, things I > shouldn't be doing in the first place . . . I sometimes wonder if because I am operating a 64bit system that is why I don't have the problems with Jaunty that seem common to others. I only had one problem that really muddled up the works, and I think it has been fixed. I had to add pci-nomsi to the boot instruction to get the bugs out of my system. All seem to have gone now with the inclusion of that instruction. Kmail has worked beautifully for 2 months now. Steven From pointlessprogramming at gmail.com Sat May 2 17:45:34 2009 From: pointlessprogramming at gmail.com (Jack Trades) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:45:34 -0400 Subject: Kate Problems and Questions Message-ID: I have an issue with Kate. Images, text, widgets or desktop background show through randomly when scrolling the text area or switching windows. I can't reproduce it reliably but it happens all the time. Screenshots are provided in the link below. I'd like to file a bug report with Kate but I don't know which version I'm running. Kate's about window gives me 3.2.2 but Synaptic gives me 4.2.2. I think the Synaptic version is correct, but if it is not where can I find the latest Kate packages? Screenshots of the version number differences are at the bottom of the linked page. http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgxzmhv_139fkqgsvgn Thanks in advance for the help, Jack Trades -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From claydoh at midmaine.com Sat May 2 17:57:37 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:57:37 -0400 Subject: Kate Problems and Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905021357.37563.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Saturday 02 May 2009 1:45:34 pm Jack Trades wrote: > I have an issue with Kate. Images, text, widgets or desktop background > show through randomly when scrolling the text area or switching windows. I > can't reproduce it reliably but it happens all the time. Screenshots are > provided in the link below. > > I'd like to file a bug report with Kate but I don't know which version I'm > running. Kate's about window gives me 3.2.2 but Synaptic gives me 4.2.2. > I think the Synaptic version is correct, but if it is not where can I find > the latest Kate packages? Screenshots of the version number differences > are at the bottom of the linked page. > > http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgxzmhv_139fkqgsvgn > > Thanks in advance for the help, > Jack Trades This looks like a video driver issue. What video card/driver are you using? btw, the kate version is correct - it is version 3.2.2, running under KDE 4.2.2 -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From thudfoo at gmail.com Sat May 2 18:11:43 2009 From: thudfoo at gmail.com (thudfoo at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 11:11:43 -0700 Subject: How do I set my local static IP address in Kubuntu 9.04 Message-ID: I need to set a static IP address so I can connect to another machine via ethernet. From stream.gazer at yahoo.co.uk Sat May 2 19:15:37 2009 From: stream.gazer at yahoo.co.uk (tpk) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 19:15:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Cannot login after KDE crash Message-ID: <863690.41274.qm@web25904.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi list, In Kubuntu 9.04, I cannot login anymore after KDE crashed. I got an error message stating that kicker(?) or kwin(?, can't remember) has crashed. The panels, widgets and desktop vanished, but other open programs were functional on black background. Unlike before, KDE didn't recover automatically. After closing all other applications, I typed in konsole'kill -9 -1' to "emulate logout", which was a bad idea it seems. After that I cannot login anymore, kdm screen just splashes and brings back the login screen. ~/.xsession-errors states: (12861)/: Communication problem with "konsole" , it probably crashed. Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Noreply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) " " I have another account where I can login normally, and everything works OK, so I guess the problem lies in the accout data. But I don't know where such files are stored (renaming ~/.kde doesn't help). Where KDE stores information on "the saved session" i.e. applications that should be lauched at startup? What about the autostart options in KDE->System Configuration? Thanks for your help. Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here is what I did: sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces and add the following lines (with your addresses that you want) auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.1.121 gateway 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 This assuming that you are doing wireless. FYI chuck -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat May 2 19:54:48 2009 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 13:54:48 -0600 Subject: Amarok2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49FCA508.80209@gmail.com> Mr Shunz said the following at 04/26/2009 04:56 AM : >> >> I'm really very, very dissatisfied with the new Amarok. Just because >> you *can* do something doesn't mean you *should*. > > just upgraded to jaunty yesterday, after five minutes of trying amarok2 > ii wen back to amarok 1.4 :( How?? That's a serious question; I desperately want to go back to 1.4, but I don't see it in the standard Kubuntu repositories. I spent a bit longer on it than five minutes -- mostly because it crashed twice in those first five minutes, and then I decided I was determined to figure out how to generate a new playlist that matched my old one (since, to my surprise, amarok2 didn't import my old playlists automatically). After ten minutes of messing with that, I *did* give up. As far as I can tell, support for playlists that is more or less on a par with 1.4 is one of a rather lengthy list of features that have not yet been implemented. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From rscrawford at mossroot.com Sat May 2 21:33:23 2009 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 14:33:23 -0700 Subject: Amarok2 In-Reply-To: <49FCA508.80209@gmail.com> References: <49FCA508.80209@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:54 PM, D. R. Evans wrote: > How?? That's a serious question; I desperately want to go back to 1.4, but > I don't see it in the standard Kubuntu repositories. I found instructions for "upgrading" from Amarok2 to Amarok1.4 here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa -- Richard S. Crawford (rscrawford at mossroot.com) http://www.mossroot.com Publisher and Editor in Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat May 2 21:59:50 2009 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 15:59:50 -0600 Subject: Amarok2 In-Reply-To: References: <49FCA508.80209@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FCC256.5020307@gmail.com> Richard S. Crawford said the following at 05/02/2009 03:33 PM : > > I found instructions for "upgrading" from Amarok2 to Amarok1.4 here: > > https://edge.launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa > Thank you, sir. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat May 2 22:13:06 2009 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 18:13:06 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Hardy - Show wallpaper, not colored desktop Message-ID: <49FCC572.2050203@gatech.edu> Somehow, I screwed up my Kubuntu Hardy desktop so it now shows only a blue field instead of my wallpaper. If I right-click the desktop and click Configure Desktop, I still see my wallpaper image file, and I see the blue color that appears. I could change the background color and/or gradient style. But what I want to do is simply show the wallpaper, and no color (or only at the edges). Matt Flaschen From iodine at runbox.no Sat May 2 22:35:48 2009 From: iodine at runbox.no (Odd) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 00:35:48 +0200 Subject: KPacketKit In-Reply-To: References: <49FB3CEF.7020105@earthlink.net> <200905011959.13676.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <49FCCAC4.9030609@runbox.no> Derek Broughton wrote: > Bruce Marshall wrote: > >> On Friday 01 May 2009, Derek Broughton wrote: >>> My experience with Synaptic (mediocre, at best) is backed by a large >>> amount >>> of feedback from users over the last 10+ years. But then again, I didn't >>> say it was "bad", I called it a waste of space (on a KDE system) and said >>> that it didn't work "well" - as in, it is still too hard to do things >>> that should be trivial, and the UI is weak. >> So what do you suggest people use? > > I'm starting to feel like an echo. Brian already asked that in this > thread... I don't "recommend" any GUI tools, as I haven't been happy with > them since Corel Linux, and their awesome (for the time) kpackage, bit the > bullet, but I _use_ aptitude. Another one worth mentioning is "wajig", and its GUI version "gjig". It's a wrapper around apt etc. Pretty nice. -- Odd From derek at pointerstop.ca Sat May 2 22:58:35 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 19:58:35 -0300 Subject: Jaunty Musings References: <49FB65A8.1000705@comcast.net> <200905021246.16052.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: > On Friday 01 May 2009 05:12:08 pm Ian L. Target wrote: >> marc wrote: >> > Ian L. Target said: >> >> Also, I had K-Mail up for less than five minutes before it crashed . . >> >> . >> > >> > Yeah, it's flaky as heck. Shame. Please file a bug, though, if you have >> > enough ammo. >> >> I am much to lazy to file a bug! I don't use K-mail enough to warrant >> the effort. I only use it (with an alias) for, well, things I >> shouldn't be doing in the first place . . . > I sometimes wonder if because I am operating a 64bit system that is why I > don't have the problems with Jaunty that seem common to others. I only > had > one problem that really muddled up the works, and I think it has been > fixed. I had to add pci-nomsi to the boot instruction to get the bugs out > of my system. > All seem to have gone now with the inclusion of that instruction. Kmail > has worked beautifully for 2 months now. Not really. kmail is pretty stable. I'm pretty sure there are a few people having trouble that can be "flaky as heck", but if they're too lazy to file bugs, the bugs are not likely to get fixed. If the bugs were common, and easy to reproduce, they'd get fixed. It's the ones that only affect a few people that never get fixed. From TonySivori at yahoo.com Sun May 3 01:47:52 2009 From: TonySivori at yahoo.com (Tony Sivori) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 21:47:52 -0400 Subject: codec for .wmv with audio v3 References: <200905012205.24519.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 01 May 2009 22:05:24 -0400, Steven Vollom wrote: > On Friday 01 May 2009 12:58:36 pm Tony Sivori wrote: >> Recently I'm getting no sound from some videos. >> .wmv unsupported codec: >> Audio Codec: Windows Media Audio v3 (0x16) > It is something new. I don't even download them, because they never > work. they will dry up for Linux users, because they are always the > same, a waste of download time. I doubt if they will be going away anytime soon. > Perhaps they work on Windows machines, but I don't think so. Surely they're working for someone, or else no one would bother to make and upload them. Anyway, since posting yesterday, in an attempt to self help I've Googled up a few others using a variety of distos with the same problem. I didn't find any solution. -- Tony Sivori Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters. From pointlessprogramming at gmail.com Sun May 3 02:18:23 2009 From: pointlessprogramming at gmail.com (Jack Trades) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 22:18:23 -0400 Subject: Kate Problems and Questions Message-ID: > This looks like a video driver issue. What video card/driver are you using? > -- > Clay Weber > http://kubuntuforums.net > http://flyballmaine.com > http://emacdogsports.com Now that you mention it I have noticed some other quirks that may be related to this. I'm using an old Toshiba laptop (not mine) with an integrated card. lspci | grep VGA gives me... 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) I'm not sure what driver I'm using, xorg.conf does not give me any information. Is there a better way to find this? 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If I try to mount a CD manually, I get the message: mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0 I've never seen any device called "sr0" before; I don't know where that's come from. The fstab entry for the drive is: /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 Constructive suggestions welcome. I can't imagine what's changed (or why). Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Sun May 3 03:15:21 2009 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 21:15:21 -0600 Subject: jaunty: unable to mount CDs In-Reply-To: <49FD09F3.9060208@gmail.com> References: <49FD09F3.9060208@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FD0C49.9000704@gmail.com> D. R. Evans said the following at 05/02/2009 09:05 PM : > Following the upgrade to jaunty, I can no longer mount CDs in /media/cdrom0. > > In the past, CDs would automount there as soon as I put them in (the Device > Notifier plasmoid would tell me that a CD was available, and let me view > the contents if I wanted). Now, not only do they not automount, I can't > mount them manually either. > > If I try to mount a CD manually, I get the message: > mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0 > > I've never seen any device called "sr0" before; I don't know where that's > come from. The fstab entry for the drive is: > > /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 > Weirder and weirder... If I put a CD in my second drive, it *does* automount, but instead of being /media/cdrom1 as it was in the past, it mounts on /cdrom0. So, to summarize: In the past (intrepid): drive A automounted and was usable as /media/cdrom0 drive B automounted and was usable as /media/cdrom1 Now (jaunty): drive A does not automount, and is not manually mountable drive B automounts as /media/cdrom0 The two entries in /etc/fstab (which are unchanged from the past) are: /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 If I look at the CDs in /dev I see: # ls -al /dev/scd* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-05-02 14:26 /dev/scd0 -> sr0 # and: # ls -al /dev/sr* brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2009-05-02 14:26 /dev/sr0 # It seems like some sort of hardware autoscanning takes place during the upgrade process, and for reasons that are a mystery to me it saw only one drive -- physically, drive B. How do get things back so that both drives are usable? (Preferably with the same labels as before: drive A -> /media/cdrom0; drive B -> /media/cdrom1) Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From tony.caudel at sbcglobal.net Sun May 3 03:23:35 2009 From: tony.caudel at sbcglobal.net (Anthony E. Caudel) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 22:23:35 -0500 Subject: Dolphin problem Message-ID: <45491C76-12AD-4B9D-A292-9F0D40FC7FF1@sbcglobal.net> In Dolphin, whenever I mount any other partitions or drives, they appear on the left simply as "Volume" with no further identifier other than the filesystem type. This isn't very informative. I have several "volumes" and they all show the same name. Is there any way to get it to show the partition (/dev/sdb2 for example)? Also, I object to calling them "volumes". This gives a confusing implication that they are part of LVM. Running Kubuntu 9.04 Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin From mailinglist at endosquid.com Sun May 3 05:29:41 2009 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 01:29:41 -0400 Subject: codec for .wmv with audio v3 In-Reply-To: <200905021554.26283.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200905020844.59456.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <200905021554.26283.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200905030129.41661.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Saturday 02 May 2009, Nils Kassube wrote: > Brendan wrote: > > I download a ton of wmv files...and honestly, I have never had one > > without sound. I can't seem to figure out how to loop through all of > > the wmv files in a dir and get the audio info on it...mplayer > > -identify in a for loop wouldn't play nice and xine has no listed > > option...Anyone know of a method in a for loop? > > What's your problem with mplayer -identify? How about this loop? > > for f in $(find -iname \*.wmv);do > echo -n "$f " > mplayer -identify -nosound -novideo "$f" |grep ID_AUDIO_ID > done 2>/dev/null Tried that. Just hangs on the identify... From stream.gazer at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 3 08:16:06 2009 From: stream.gazer at yahoo.co.uk (tpk) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 08:16:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Cannot login after KDE crash Message-ID: <244987.39542.qm@web25901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi list, In Kubuntu 9.04, I cannot login anymore after KDE crashed. I got an error message stating that kicker(?) or kwin(?, can't remember) has crashed. The panels, widgets and desktop vanished, but other open programs were functional on black background. Unlike before, KDE didn't recover automatically. After closing all other applications, I typed in konsole'kill -9 -1' to "emulate logout", which was a bad idea it seems. After that I cannot login anymore, kdm screen just splashes and brings back the login screen. ~/.xsession-errors states: (12861)/: Communication problem with "konsole" , it probably crashed. Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Noreply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) " " I have another account where I can login normally, and everything works OK, so I guess the problem lies in the accout data. But I don't know where such files are stored (renaming ~/.kde doesn't help). Where KDE stores information on "the saved session" i.e. applications that should be lauched at startup? What about the autostart options in KDE->System Configuration? Thanks for your help. Tom Solved. By tracking recent changes in the configuration files I was able to trace the problem down to these files: 1) renamed file ~/.gconfd/saved_state 2) renamed files ~/.kde/cache-hostname/kpc/kde-icon-cache.* 1) fixed the problem with konqueror, but kded still crashed at login. Because the directory .kde/cache-hostname is a symbolic link to /var/, renaming .kde didn't change anything. The only downside (appeared so far) is that almost all KDE preferences were reset. Cheers, Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linuxhippy at gmail.com Sun May 3 08:51:20 2009 From: linuxhippy at gmail.com (Clemens Eisserer) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 04:51:20 -0400 Subject: Kate Problems and Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <194f62550905030151ue169559wba1b4612d78acd29@mail.gmail.com> Hi, You are most likely using the "intel" driver, which is known to have some problems, especially with your chipset. Probably the best thing to do is to subscribe to the intel-gfx list, and/or file a bug in the xorg bug tracker (bugs.freedesktop.org). By the way, there's more information in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. You could try to switch to XAA, which is mostly software-only rendering, working arround the driver's problems. lg Clemens 2009/5/2 Jack Trades : >> This looks like a video driver issue. What video card/driver are you >> using? >> -- >> Clay Weber >> http://kubuntuforums.net >> http://flyballmaine.com >> http://emacdogsports.com > > > Now that you mention it I have noticed some other quirks that may be related > to this.  I'm using an old Toshiba laptop (not mine) with an integrated > card.  lspci | grep VGA gives me... > > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated > Graphics Device (rev 02) > > I'm not sure what driver I'm using, xorg.conf does not give me any > information.  Is there a better way to find this? > > Also sometimes the plugins that I have enabled become disabled on restarting > the computer, specifically Terminal Tool View and Kate Tab Bar Extension. > Is there a way to keep these enabled (I already have the save session and > load last used session options enabled)? > > Thanks, > Jack Trades > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From errol at tzora.co.il Sun May 3 09:11:20 2009 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 12:11:20 +0300 Subject: Acer aspire one & Kubuntu Message-ID: <49FD5FB8.5090603@tzora.co.il> I am starting a non-hijacked thread but carrying on the discussion I originally posted to answer questions about the above subject and to get advise as to how to continue. After a lot of internet searching I decided to try the remix version of Ubuntu Jaunty on my acer. I have downloaded and installed this version on a disk-on-key and have run the live version. It works well with everything I need including wireless internet connection. The one "problem " I have (and it may be because of lack of information) is that the remix version of Jaunty I found is either Ubuntu or a 3.5 KDE version on Kubuntu. As I said, I tried the live Ububtu version which worked perfectly. I would really like Kubuntu KDE 4.2. As I see it I have 2 choices. To install the non-remix version of Kubuntu Jaunty with KDE 4.2 or to install KDE 4.2 into the Unbuntu or Kubuntu remix. Suggestions please? Errol From kassube at gmx.net Sun May 3 10:42:03 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 12:42:03 +0200 Subject: codec for .wmv with audio v3 In-Reply-To: <200905030129.41661.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <200905021554.26283.kassube@gmx.net> <200905030129.41661.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <200905031242.03464.kassube@gmx.net> Brendan wrote: > On Saturday 02 May 2009, Nils Kassube wrote: > > Brendan wrote: > > > I download a ton of wmv files...and honestly, I have never had > > > one without sound. I can't seem to figure out how to loop through > > > all of the wmv files in a dir and get the audio info on > > > it...mplayer -identify in a for loop wouldn't play nice and xine > > > has no listed option...Anyone know of a method in a for loop? > > > > What's your problem with mplayer -identify? How about this loop? > > > > for f in $(find -iname \*.wmv);do > > echo -n "$f " > > mplayer -identify -nosound -novideo "$f" |grep ID_AUDIO_ID > > done 2>/dev/null > > Tried that. Just hangs on the identify... Oh well, then maybe it doesn't work for all types of wmv files and I don't have one of those which don't work. Nils From gohlip at operamail.com Sun May 3 11:51:26 2009 From: gohlip at operamail.com (Goh Lip) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 19:51:26 +0800 Subject: Acer aspire one & Kubuntu Message-ID: <20090503115126.3FA2444908@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > From: Errol Sapir > I am starting a non-hijacked thread but carrying on the discussion I > originally posted to answer questions about the above subject and to get > advise as to how to continue. After a lot of internet searching I > decided to try the remix version of Ubuntu Jaunty on my acer. I have > downloaded and installed this version on a disk-on-key and have run the > live version. > > It works well with everything I need including wireless internet > connection. The one "problem " I have (and it may be because of lack of > information) is that the remix version of Jaunty I found is either > Ubuntu or a 3.5 KDE version on Kubuntu. > > As I said, I tried the live Ububtu version which worked perfectly. I > would really like Kubuntu KDE 4.2. > > As I see it I have 2 choices. To install the non-remix version of > Kubuntu Jaunty with KDE 4.2 or to install KDE 4.2 into the Unbuntu or > Kubuntu remix. > > Suggestions please? > > Errol I am not clear if you have a running Ubuntu version of Jaunty, ie., Gnome without any KDE in it. If you do, it is as simple as installing kubuntu-desktop and you will have a Kubuntu 4.2.2. By reading your message, I don't think you have a Gnome version of Jaunty.I will not recommend installing KDE 4.2 from the remix, ie KDE 3.5, though it can be done. I also don't think you can run KDE 4 and KDE 3 together in Jaunty, unlike earlier versions of Kubuntu, before Intrepid. The best bet is to install a new Kubuntu KDE4.2.2. Regards, Goh Lip Vision without action is daydream. Action without vision is nightmare. 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URL: From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Sun May 3 13:57:40 2009 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 14:57:40 +0100 Subject: How do I set my local static IP address in Kubuntu 9.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49FDA2D4.4060905@btinternet.com> > > I need to set a static IP address so I can connect to another machine via > > ethernet. > > > > > > > Good question! I have router that my computer, printer and flatmate's computer is plugged into. If the printer is turned off, it doesn't always get the same last digit when it gets turned back on. Ian --------- You log onto your router and turn off DHCP , if it won't let you do that then find a box for each of your machines you can tick which says 'keep the same ip sddress', I can do either on my router. You then have the choice of sticking to the addresses that your router assigned or setting up new ones. This is my /etc/hosts file on meg and megaera: ------------------------------------------------ #127.0.0.1 localhost #127.0.1.1 meg # static addresses for LAN 192.168.1.254 gateway 192.168.1.64 meg localhost 192.168.1.65 nutmeg 192.168.1.66 HP9A8E2A 192.168.1.67 megaera # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts ------------------------------------------------------ I've no idea what's in the Vista laptop(nutmeg)but all machine names respond with the right ip addresses when 'pinged' The HP..... printer asked for a specific static ip address and netmask on initial set-up. I edited my hosts files on meg and megaera with the ip's I wanted. Deleted all device entries on the router(except its own, of course) pinged all machines from all machines and watched the router's device table fill up with my names,ips and macs as I did it. Have to get the netmask right of course, for my LAN addresses it's ffffff00 otherwise local machines(devices)won't generate ARP packets. I'm also lucky with my router, the ISP I got my router from has the ISP's DNS primary and secondary servers plugged into it so all I've got in my /etc/resolv.conf is: ------------------------------------ # Generated by NetworkManager domain home search home nameserver 192.168.1.254 ------------------------------------------- ie the gateway's(router) LAN ip address My ISP also downloads new software to my router without telling me so I made sure that the ip addresses I picked were outside its DHCP selection range(192.168.1.1-63) to avoid any future clashes. NB note the localhost alias in /etc/hosts must be on the line corresponding to the hosts ip entry. both the 127... entries in hosts are hashed out. If you manage to mess things up, un-hash these 2 entries and hash your own, this should at least get you connected again. good luck brian From amichai at iglu.org.il Sun May 3 14:33:51 2009 From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 17:33:51 +0300 Subject: Jaunty Musings In-Reply-To: References: <49FB65A8.1000705@comcast.net> <200905021246.16052.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: So, I'd like to make sure. Is Jaunty kind of a beta release? Is the KDE 4.2.2 not fully ready and functional or is it the upgrade that broke my system? Should I revert to Kubuntu 8.04 LTS or just re-install Jaunty from scratch? Thanks! .:====================================================:. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ .:====================================================:. James Thurber - "Women are wiser than men because they know less and understand more." - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/james_thurber.html On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 01:58, Derek Broughton wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > >> On Friday 01 May 2009 05:12:08 pm Ian L. Target wrote: >>> marc wrote: >>> > Ian L. Target said: >>> >> Also, I had K-Mail up for less than five minutes before it crashed . . >>> >> . >>> > >>> > Yeah, it's flaky as heck. Shame. Please file a bug, though, if you have >>> > enough ammo. >>> >>> I am much to lazy to file a bug!  I don't use K-mail enough to warrant >>> the effort.  I only use it (with an alias) for,  well, things I >>> shouldn't be doing in the first place . . . >> I sometimes wonder if because I am operating a 64bit system that is why I >> don't have the problems with Jaunty that seem common to others.  I only >> had >> one problem that really muddled up the works, and I think it has been >> fixed.  I had to add pci-nomsi to the boot instruction to get the bugs out >> of my system. >> All seem to have gone now with the inclusion of that instruction.  Kmail >> has worked beautifully for 2 months now. > > Not really.  kmail is pretty stable.  I'm pretty sure there are a few people > having trouble that can be "flaky as heck", but if they're too lazy to file > bugs, the bugs are not likely to get fixed.  If the bugs were common, and > easy to reproduce, they'd get fixed.  It's the ones that only affect a few > people that never get fixed. > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From errol at tzora.co.il Sun May 3 14:55:25 2009 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 17:55:25 +0300 Subject: Acer aspire one & Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <20090503115126.3FA2444908@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20090503115126.3FA2444908@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <49FDB05D.1010608@tzora.co.il> Goh Lip wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com >> > > >> From: Errol Sapir >> > > >> I am starting a non-hijacked thread but carrying on the discussion I >> originally posted to answer questions about the above subject and to get >> advise as to how to continue. After a lot of internet searching I >> decided to try the remix version of Ubuntu Jaunty on my acer. I have >> downloaded and installed this version on a disk-on-key and have run the >> live version. >> >> It works well with everything I need including wireless internet >> connection. The one "problem " I have (and it may be because of lack of >> information) is that the remix version of Jaunty I found is either >> Ubuntu or a 3.5 KDE version on Kubuntu. >> >> As I said, I tried the live Ububtu version which worked perfectly. I >> would really like Kubuntu KDE 4.2. >> >> As I see it I have 2 choices. To install the non-remix version of >> Kubuntu Jaunty with KDE 4.2 or to install KDE 4.2 into the Unbuntu or >> Kubuntu remix. >> >> Suggestions please? >> >> Errol >> > > > I am not clear if you have a running Ubuntu version of Jaunty, ie., Gnome without any KDE in it. If you do, it is as simple as installing kubuntu-desktop and you will have a Kubuntu 4.2.2. > > > By reading your message, I don't think you have a Gnome version of Jaunty.I will not recommend installing KDE 4.2 from the remix, ie KDE 3.5, though it can be done. I also don't think you can run KDE 4 and KDE 3 together in Jaunty, unlike earlier versions of Kubuntu, before Intrepid. > > The best bet is to install a new Kubuntu KDE4.2.2. > > Regards, > Goh Lip > > Vision without action is daydream. Action without vision is nightmare. > Japanese Proverb > > > I have the remix Gnome version of Jaunty running. I don't know if that is the "full" Gnome. That's why I'm not sure I can install the KDE desktop in the Gnome remix. I guess the best bet is a new Kubuntu KDE4.2.2 install. Although I have an Acer aspire one, I think it can take the non-remix Kubuntu as it has a hard drive. I think the remix versions were intended for the flash card mini notebooks. Basically that's what I was asking here. Errol -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun May 3 15:08:49 2009 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 18:08:49 +0300 Subject: Kubuntu Hardy - Show wallpaper, not colored desktop In-Reply-To: <49FCC572.2050203@gatech.edu> References: <49FCC572.2050203@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <49FDB381.2020604@prayingforisrael.net> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Somehow, I screwed up my Kubuntu Hardy desktop so it now shows only a > blue field instead of my wallpaper. If I right-click the desktop and > click Configure Desktop, I still see my wallpaper image file, and I see > the blue color that appears. I could change the background color and/or > gradient style. > > But what I want to do is simply show the wallpaper, and no color (or > only at the edges). > > Matt Flaschen > Did you try choosing another wallpaper, then reverting to your original choice? I remember having a similar issue with Intrepid. Blessings, Nigel From pointlessprogramming at gmail.com Sun May 3 16:09:32 2009 From: pointlessprogramming at gmail.com (Jack Trades) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 12:09:32 -0400 Subject: Kate Problems and Questions In-Reply-To: <194f62550905030151ue169559wba1b4612d78acd29@mail.gmail.com> References: <194f62550905030151ue169559wba1b4612d78acd29@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the help. I switched to XAA and after a few minutes of testing I couldn't reproduce the problem, I don't notice any significant performance problems either. Although this hasn't cleared up all the quirks with the drawing of widgets, especially the scroll bar in Firefox. In case anyone comes across this from a search add the following line under the "Device" section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file... Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" Bug report and workarounds here... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/338669 Jack Trades On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Clemens Eisserer wrote: > Hi, > > You are most likely using the "intel" driver, which is known to have > some problems, especially with your chipset. > Probably the best thing to do is to subscribe to the intel-gfx list, > and/or file a bug in the xorg bug tracker (bugs.freedesktop.org). > > By the way, there's more information in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. > You could try to switch to XAA, which is mostly software-only > rendering, working arround the driver's problems. > > lg Clemens > > 2009/5/2 Jack Trades : > >> This looks like a video driver issue. What video card/driver are you > >> using? > >> -- > >> Clay Weber > >> http://kubuntuforums.net > >> http://flyballmaine.com > >> http://emacdogsports.com > > > > > > Now that you mention it I have noticed some other quirks that may be > related > > to this. I'm using an old Toshiba laptop (not mine) with an integrated > > card. lspci | grep VGA gives me... > > > > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM > Integrated > > Graphics Device (rev 02) > > > > I'm not sure what driver I'm using, xorg.conf does not give me any > > information. Is there a better way to find this? > > > > Also sometimes the plugins that I have enabled become disabled on > restarting > > the computer, specifically Terminal Tool View and Kate Tab Bar Extension. > > Is there a way to keep these enabled (I already have the save session and > > load last used session options enabled)? > > > > Thanks, > > Jack Trades > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun May 3 16:35:41 2009 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 12:35:41 -0400 Subject: How do I set my local static IP address in Kubuntu 9.04 In-Reply-To: <49FDA2D4.4060905@btinternet.com> References: <49FDA2D4.4060905@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <200905031235.42131.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Sunday 03 May 2009, Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > Good question! I have router that my computer, printer and flatmate's > computer is plugged into. If the printer is turned off, it doesn't > always get the same last digit when it gets turned back on. Set up your router to hand out an address based on the printers MAC address. Should always be the same that way. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Note : I have downloaded before, a Kubuntu version, some years back to a 8GB thumb drive and run it off several machines from that thumb. But I won't recommend it at this stage. Good Luck. Regards, Goh Lip To be already riding the donkey, and then go out in search of it: This is.....................the Zen of No Enlightenment. -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun May 3 17:49:40 2009 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 20:49:40 +0300 Subject: OT: 'Useful Start Page' updated In-Reply-To: <200905030914.30229.jesus_arocho@comcast.net> References: <49CA6C34.7040409@prayingforisrael.net> <200905030914.30229.jesus_arocho@comcast.net> Message-ID: <49FDD934.4020402@prayingforisrael.net> Jesus Arocho wrote: > Just opened your page in Konqueror, on a kubuntu jaunty box. This is a great > tool. I will change my default from google to your page. I also work on > adding my favorite places in a Woodworking submenu. Thanks for the great > work. > > Glad that you found it useful. Just on a side note; Konqueror still doesn't understand the css word-spacing nor letter-spacing. So in Konqueror the Page Title "Useful Start Page" looks kind of squashed compared with how it should be (it looks great in Firefox 3.1 Beta 3). Blessings, Nigel From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Sun May 3 18:17:43 2009 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 14:17:43 -0400 Subject: Keyboard Message-ID: <200905031417.43386.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Installed KUbuntu in French, on a box that has a Brazil-Portuguese keyboard. The install put a French keyboard in, without offering me a choice. I have changed the keyboard to pt-BR in KDE so the keyboard is recognized as it should by all apps. I have changed it in /etc/xorg.conf so it is also recognized by the login manager where I type the user's password. But where, oh where do I change it so it is recognized by the basic system, when I go to a tty with Ctrl-Alt-F1 to do a bit command line work ? Cheers, Ron. -- No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From kassube at gmx.net Sun May 3 18:27:37 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:27:37 +0200 Subject: Dolphin problem In-Reply-To: <45491C76-12AD-4B9D-A292-9F0D40FC7FF1@sbcglobal.net> References: <45491C76-12AD-4B9D-A292-9F0D40FC7FF1@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905032027.37801.kassube@gmx.net> Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > In Dolphin, whenever I mount any other partitions or drives, they > appear on the left simply as "Volume" with no further identifier > other than the filesystem type. This isn't very informative. I have > several "volumes" and they all show the same name. Is there any way > to get it to show the partition (/dev/sdb2 for example)? You can give those partitions labels, then Dolphin displays the labels instead of "volume (ext3)" etc. For instructions look here: Nils From glen20 at exemail.com.au Sun May 3 18:35:03 2009 From: glen20 at exemail.com.au (Glen Cunningham) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 04:35:03 +1000 Subject: How do I set my local static IP address in Kubuntu 9.04 In-Reply-To: <49FDCF1D.3060606@comcast.net> References: <200905031235.42131.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <49FDCF1D.3060606@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200905040435.04001.glen20@exemail.com.au> G'day Ian, On Monday 04 May 2009 03:06, Ian L. Target wrote: > Bruce Marshall wrote: > > On Sunday 03 May 2009, Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > > > Good question! I have router that my computer, printer and > > > flatmate's computer is plugged into. If the printer is turned > > > off, it doesn't always get the same last digit when it gets > > > turned back on. > > > > Set up your router to hand out an address based on the printers MAC > > address. Should always be the same that way. > > I didn't know this was available. I looked at my router's settings, > a WGR614 v9, but nothing jumped out at me. I'll look do some > googling and look some more, but I may ask for your assistance later > if I can't figure it out.    Page 4.3 of the WGR614v9 User manual covers this under the slightly obfuscated heading "Using Address Reservation".    Now, back to the OP's question.... setting "proper" static addresses in 9.04 is not easy unless you use the alternate/manual install method and then it is NOT obvious - in the network setup part of the install, after the automatic dhcp config has succeeded (or failed), just click the [Back] button and select the appropriate option.  Well hidden and not well documented. HTH Glen From gohlip at operamail.com Sun May 3 18:48:14 2009 From: gohlip at operamail.com (Goh Lip) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 02:48:14 +0800 Subject: Acer aspire one & Kubuntu Message-ID: <20090503184814.ED9FD44908@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> Ah, You have the Ubuntu Netbook Remix; not the Kubuntu Remix with the KDE3.5. Your version runs off the flash drive. Nope, if you want the Kubuntu, best to install to your hard drive from a freshly downloaded Kubuntu Jaunty Kde4.2. Note : I have downloaded before, a Kubuntu version, some years back to a 8GB thumb drive and run it off several machines from that thumb. But I won't recommend it at this stage. However you would need to check if you have enough disk space for your Acer; I think it comes with 8 GB, RAM 2GB? Atom processor? A bit dicey to install together with your original OS. If you still want to try out Kubuntu, try to download the Kubuntu and see if it runs off the live CD, 32 bit version. If it doesn't work, don't install it. If it works, please come back to us and we'll take it from there and install to an external hard drive. (If it doesn't work, we'll still appreciate the feedback.) Anyway if it doesn't work, you still have the Ubuntu Netbook Remix running off the flash. Good Luck. Regards, Goh Lip To be already riding the donkey, and then go out in search of it: This is.....................the Zen of No Enlightenment. -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze From thudfoo at gmail.com Sun May 3 19:02:36 2009 From: thudfoo at gmail.com (thudfoo at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 12:02:36 -0700 Subject: kubuntu 9.04: kde4 => kde3.x Message-ID: Can someone point me to a URL explaining how I can replace kde4 with kde3 on a Kubuntu 9.04 installation? Thanks. From thudfoo at gmail.com Sun May 3 19:16:46 2009 From: thudfoo at gmail.com (thudfoo at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 12:16:46 -0700 Subject: How do I set my local static IP address in Kubuntu 9.04 References: <200905031235.42131.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <49FDCF1D.3060606@comcast.net> <200905040435.04001.glen20@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: Glen Cunningham wrote: > G'day Ian, > > On Monday 04 May 2009 03:06, Ian L. Target wrote: >> Bruce Marshall wrote: >> > On Sunday 03 May 2009, Brian Norman Wootton wrote: >> > > Good question! I have router that my computer, printer and >> > > flatmate's computer is plugged into. If the printer is turned >> > > off, it doesn't always get the same last digit when it gets >> > > turned back on. >> > >> > Set up your router to hand out an address based on the printers MAC >> > address. Should always be the same that way. >> >> I didn't know this was available. I looked at my router's settings, >> a WGR614 v9, but nothing jumped out at me. I'll look do some >> googling and look some more, but I may ask for your assistance later >> if I can't figure it out. > > Page 4.3 of the WGR614v9 User manual covers this under the slightly > obfuscated heading "Using Address Reservation". > > Now, back to the OP's question.... setting "proper" static addresses > in 9.04 is not easy unless you use the alternate/manual install method > and then it is NOT obvious - in the network setup part of the install, > after the automatic dhcp config has succeeded (or failed), just click > the [Back] button and select the appropriate option.  Well hidden and > not well documented. > HTH > Glen > Thanks, Glen, but the install is history. I configured by modifying /etc/network/interfaces, adding a static interface for eth0. Then I used ifup to bring it up. Now I can connect to another machine but it cannot connect to the Kubuntu 9.04 machine, but can ping it: Connection Refused. From jonorland at gmail.com Sun May 3 19:25:11 2009 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 21:25:11 +0200 Subject: Keyboard In-Reply-To: <200905031417.43386.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> References: <200905031417.43386.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > Installed KUbuntu in French, on a box that has a Brazil-Portuguese keyboard. > > The install put a French keyboard in, without offering me a choice. > > I have changed the keyboard to pt-BR in KDE so the keyboard is recognized as > it should by all apps. > > I have changed it in /etc/xorg.conf so it is also recognized by the login > manager where I type the user's password. > > But where, oh where do I change it so it is recognized by the basic system, > when I go to a tty with Ctrl-Alt-F1 to do a bit command line work ? > > Cheers, > > Ron. I'm not sure it is the right place but look at you /etc/environment. I got: $ cat /etc/environment PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games" LANGUAGE="sv_SE:sv:en_GB:en" LANG="sv_SE.UTF-8" From michael at weblore.com Sun May 3 19:25:45 2009 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 14:25:45 -0500 Subject: KMail problems on Jaunty Message-ID: <200905031425.45554.michael@weblore.com> I've just upgraded from Hardy to Jaunty. I'm having the devil's time trying to move my Kontact / Kmail settings to the new kmail. Note that I didn't use the adept (which reminds me - where did adept go?) to do the upgrade. I tried, but as usual, that didn't work. I saved my old home directory and etc/ and did a fresh install. I have all the settings files from the Hardy installation. In the past, all I've had to do was move the .kde/kmailrc file to the new home directory along with the .kde/kmail directory. This time, none of the identities or outgoing settings were there when I came up. 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Mistakes can happen, messages get trimmed wrongly, and worse, some unrelated messages don't get trimmed.(sorry Myriam) I am using a web based email program, not popped or imapped to a mail program; does that affect it? Maybe I am not savvy enough? Any suggestions? Thanks. Goh Lip True words are not beautiful Beautiful words are not true. - - I Ching -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze From kassube at gmx.net Sun May 3 19:36:08 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 21:36:08 +0200 Subject: kubuntu 9.04: kde4 => kde3.x In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905032136.08321.kassube@gmx.net> thudfoo at gmail.com wrote: > Can someone point me to a URL explaining how I can replace kde4 with > kde3 on a Kubuntu 9.04 installation? Thanks. This was mentioned on this list last month: Nils From glen20 at exemail.com.au Sun May 3 19:37:10 2009 From: glen20 at exemail.com.au (Glen Cunningham) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 05:37:10 +1000 Subject: How do I set my local static IP address in Kubuntu 9.04 In-Reply-To: References: <200905040435.04001.glen20@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: <200905040537.10754.glen20@exemail.com.au> On Monday 04 May 2009 05:16, thudfoo at gmail.com wrote: > Glen Cunningham wrote: > > G'day Ian, > > > > On Monday 04 May 2009 03:06, Ian L. Target wrote: > >> Bruce Marshall wrote: > >> > On Sunday 03 May 2009, Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > >> > > Good question! I have router that my computer, printer and > >> > > flatmate's computer is plugged into. If the printer is turned > >> > > off, it doesn't always get the same last digit when it gets > >> > > turned back on. > >> > > >> > Set up your router to hand out an address based on the printers > >> > MAC address. Should always be the same that way. > >> > >> I didn't know this was available. I looked at my router's > >> settings, a WGR614 v9, but nothing jumped out at me. I'll look do > >> some googling and look some more, but I may ask for your > >> assistance later if I can't figure it out. > > > > Page 4.3 of the WGR614v9 User manual covers this under the slightly > > obfuscated heading "Using Address Reservation". > > > > Now, back to the OP's question.... setting "proper" static > > addresses in 9.04 is not easy unless you use the alternate/manual > > install method and then it is NOT obvious - in the network setup > > part of the install, after the automatic dhcp config has succeeded > > (or failed), just click the [Back] button and select the > > appropriate option.  Well hidden and not well documented. > > HTH > > Glen > > Thanks, Glen, but the install is history. I configured by > modifying /etc/network/interfaces, adding a static interface for > eth0. Then I used ifup to bring it up. Now I can connect to another > machine but it cannot connect to the Kubuntu 9.04 machine, but can > ping it: Connection Refused. G'day "thudfoo", Just guessing, by "cannot connect to the Kubuntu 9.04 machine" , are you trying to use ssh/scp? Do you actually have the needed service(s) running on the Kubuntu 9.04 machine? "Connection Refused" would indicate either a missing service or an authentication problem. G. From thudfoo at gmail.com Sun May 3 20:19:30 2009 From: thudfoo at gmail.com (thudfoo at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 13:19:30 -0700 Subject: kubuntu 9.04: kde4 => kde3.x References: <200905032136.08321.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils Kassube wrote: > thudfoo at gmail.com wrote: >> Can someone point me to a URL explaining how I can replace kde4 with >> kde3 on a Kubuntu 9.04 installation? Thanks. > > This was mentioned on this list last month: > > > > Nils Thanks, Nils. I think I'll continue on with the opensuse 11.1 installation on the same machine, which is running KDE 3.5. From kassube at gmx.net Sun May 3 20:23:44 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:23:44 +0200 Subject: Reading and replying to this list. In-Reply-To: <20090503192742.003C7CB571@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20090503192742.003C7CB571@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <200905032223.44828.kassube@gmx.net> Goh Lip wrote: > I noticed that some messages from the same list, are queries and > replies to that same queries. How do you do that? > > I have to wait for the list to be completed, sent to me and then only > then can I respond. I suppose you get the digest of the list. If you change your settings to the normal mode you receive every single mail when it is sent (well usually there is a delay of several minutes). > It is also a chore changing the subject, scrolling through the > messages to quote, deleting a long portion of unrelated messages > before sending off. That's another disadvantage of the digest mode - you can't reply to the correct thread because the appropriate headers are missing. If you change the subject some mail clients may sort your mail to the correct thread but not necessarily after the correct message. > I am using a web based email program, not popped or imapped to a mail > program; does that affect it? Maybe I am not savvy enough? Any > suggestions? That depends on your web mail program, some seem to work. But as long as you use digest mode your options are limited. Nils From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Sun May 3 20:23:47 2009 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:23:47 -0400 Subject: Keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <200905031417.43386.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: <200905031623.47807.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> On Sunday 03 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive from Jonas Norlander who wrote: > > Installed KUbuntu in French, on a box that has a Brazil-Portuguese > > keyboard. > > The install put a French keyboard in, without offering me a choice. > > I have changed the keyboard to pt-BR in KDE so the keyboard is recognized > > as it should by all apps. > > I have changed it in /etc/xorg.conf so it is also recognized by the login > > manager where I type the user's password. > > But where, oh where do I change it so it is recognized by the basic > >system, when I go to a tty with Ctrl-Alt-F1 to do a bit command line work ? > I'm not sure it is the right place but look at you /etc/environment. > I got: > $ cat /etc/environment > PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/gam >es" LANGUAGE="sv_SE:sv:en_GB:en" > LANG="sv_SE.UTF-8" As a transfuge from Mandriva, trying to set up a Kubuntu box, I am used to finding the KEYBOARD and KEYTABLES affectation in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard But it seems that Kubuntu does not use those variables. Cheers, Ron. -- Quand on a la santé c'est pas grave d'ètre malade. -- Francis Blanche -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Sun May 3 20:33:34 2009 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 21:33:34 +0100 Subject: Reading and replying to this list. In-Reply-To: <20090503192742.003C7CB571@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20090503192742.003C7CB571@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <49FDFF9E.2040103@yahoo.it> Goh Lip wrote: > I noticed that some messages from the same list, are queries and replies to that same queries. How do you do that? > > I have to wait for the list to be completed, sent to me and then only then can I respond. Looks like you are receiving the daily digest. You should be able to change that to single messages somehow, through the links that you find at the bottom of the email (change your settings ecc...) HTH, I. > > It is also a chore changing the subject, scrolling through the messages to quote, deleting a long portion of unrelated messages before sending off. Mistakes can happen, messages get trimmed wrongly, and worse, some unrelated messages don't get trimmed.(sorry Myriam) > > I am using a web based email program, not popped or imapped to a mail program; does that affect it? Maybe I am not savvy enough? Any suggestions? > > Thanks. > > Goh Lip > > True words are not beautiful > Beautiful words are not true. > - - I Ching > > > > > From jonorland at gmail.com Sun May 3 20:54:06 2009 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:54:06 +0200 Subject: Keyboard In-Reply-To: <200905031623.47807.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> References: <200905031417.43386.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <200905031623.47807.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Sunday 03 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive >  from Jonas Norlander who wrote: > >> > Installed KUbuntu in French, on a box that has a Brazil-Portuguese >> > keyboard. >> > The install put a French keyboard in, without offering me a choice. >> > I have changed the keyboard to pt-BR in KDE so the keyboard is recognized >> > as it should by all apps. >> > I have changed it in /etc/xorg.conf so it is also recognized by the login >> > manager where I type the user's password. >> > But where, oh where do I change it so it is recognized by the basic >> >system, when I go to a tty with Ctrl-Alt-F1 to do a bit command line work ? > >> I'm not sure it is the right place but look at you /etc/environment. >> I got: >> $ cat /etc/environment >> PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/gam >>es" LANGUAGE="sv_SE:sv:en_GB:en" >> LANG="sv_SE.UTF-8" > > As a transfuge from Mandriva, trying to set up a Kubuntu box, I am used to > finding the KEYBOARD and KEYTABLES affectation in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard > > But it seems that Kubuntu does not use those variables. For keyboard and font in console you have some settings in /etc/default/console-setup. / Jonas From jesus_arocho at comcast.net Sun May 3 20:56:27 2009 From: jesus_arocho at comcast.net (Jesus Arocho) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:56:27 -0400 Subject: Jaunty and CD roms Message-ID: <200905031656.27501.jesus_arocho@comcast.net> I upgraded to jaunty. I had grip set up for /dev/cdrom; this no longer works. When I insert an audio disk I get options for k3b and dolphin. If I open in dolphin the folder is named as audiocd. Anyone know to where I must point grip? thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com Sun May 3 21:37:27 2009 From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 17:37:27 -0400 Subject: OT: 'Useful Start Page' updated In-Reply-To: <49FDD934.4020402@prayingforisrael.net> References: <49CA6C34.7040409@prayingforisrael.net> <200905030914.30229.jesus_arocho@comcast.net> <49FDD934.4020402@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <49FE0E97.9030901@ajinfosearch.com> Nigel Ridley wrote: > Jesus Arocho wrote: >> Just opened your page in Konqueror, on a kubuntu jaunty box. This is a great >> tool. I will change my default from google to your page. I also work on >> adding my favorite places in a Woodworking submenu. Thanks for the great >> work. >> >> > Glad that you found it useful. > Just on a side note; Konqueror still doesn't understand the css word-spacing nor letter-spacing. > So in Konqueror the Page Title "Useful Start Page" looks kind of squashed compared with how it > should be (it looks great in Firefox 3.1 Beta 3). > > Blessings, > > Nigel > It looks great in firefox and the words are a bit squished in Konqueror. In both Arora and rekonq it is even a little bit more squished. The word 'Search' is longer than the buttons in them too. Seems the QtWebKit still needs some work. It works great in any browser, I use it every day. Thanks for making it! -- Alan "The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated concept. If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in life and actually grok it." From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Sun May 3 21:46:56 2009 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (Steve) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:46:56 +0100 Subject: updating email addresses to receive Kubuntu user forum questions and answers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090503224656.ab3382aa.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> On Mon, 4 May 2009 07:25:34 +1000 ray burke wrote: > Sirs, > > I would like to update my email address for receiving Kubuntu user forum > questions and answers from rayburke30 at hotmail. com to rayburke30 at gmail.com, > or at least be advised how to change???????? > > ray > Click the link at the bottom of this mail ( or any mail from the list) -- Steve From rayburke30 at gmail.com Sun May 3 21:53:46 2009 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 07:53:46 +1000 Subject: updating email addresses to receive Kubuntu user forum questions and answers In-Reply-To: <20090503224656.ab3382aa.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> References: <20090503224656.ab3382aa.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> Message-ID: Steve, thanks I checked the link and entered my new gmail email address, so hoping it works// ray On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Steve wrote: > On Mon, 4 May 2009 07:25:34 +1000 > ray burke wrote: > > > Sirs, > > > > I would like to update my email address for receiving Kubuntu user forum > > questions and answers from rayburke30 at hotmail. com to > rayburke30 at gmail.com, > > or at least be advised how to change???????? > > > > ray > > > Click the link at the bottom of this mail ( or any mail from the list) > > -- > Steve > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Your version runs off the flash drive. > > Nope, if you want the Kubuntu, best to install to your hard drive > from a freshly downloaded Kubuntu Jaunty Kde4.2. > > Note : I have downloaded before, a Kubuntu version, some years back > to a 8GB thumb drive and run it off several machines from that thumb. > But I won't recommend it at this stage. > > However you would need to check if you have enough disk space for your Acer; I think it comes with 8 GB, RAM 2GB? Atom processor? A bit dicey to install together with your original OS. > > If you still want to try out Kubuntu, try to download the Kubuntu and see if it runs off the live CD, 32 bit version. If it doesn't work, don't install it. If it works, please come back to us and we'll take it from there and install to an external hard drive. (If it doesn't work, we'll still appreciate the feedback.) > > Anyway if it doesn't work, you still have the Ubuntu Netbook Remix running off the flash. > > Good Luck. > > Regards, > Goh Lip > > > To be already riding the donkey, and then go out in search of it: > This is.....................the Zen of No Enlightenment. > > > H Goh Lip I have enough space on my hard drive. It is 160 GB and comes with XP prei-nstalled. I intend re-partitioning and then double booting so I can keep my XP pre-setup for warranty purposes if I ever need it. I have a 3 year warranty on the Acer. I will be installing Kubuntu with KDE 4.2.2 as you suggested. Thanks for your advise. It kinda set my thoughts right. Errol From nadreck at palain.com Sun May 3 22:19:29 2009 From: nadreck at palain.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 18:19:29 -0400 Subject: Phonon sound problem? In-Reply-To: <1241145713.6745.86.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <49F7AAB8.7010502@palain.com> <1240981395.6687.3.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <49F90BC3.2060101@palain.com> <1241145713.6745.86.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <49FE1871.2070409@palain.com> Ric Moore wrote: > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 22:24 -0400, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > >> Ric Moore wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 21:17 -0400, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: >>> >>> >>>> After upgrading to Jaunty, which also includes Amarok 2.0, I found I get >>>> no sound from this application. Someone on the Amarok list suggested >>>> that I try Dragon Player, and I get no sound with that either. On the >>>> other hand Miro is working just fine, so there is nothing intrinsically >>>> wrong with the sound system. Does this point to Phonon as the problem? >>>> And if so, any idea how I can fix it? >>>> >>>> >>> Do you also have a USB headset? Ric >>> >>> >> Not plugged in, but I think I have one around here somewhere. What did >> you have in mind? >> > > you might try plugging it in. The output may have been automagically > routed to it in the past and after you unplugged it the system fails to > re-route back to your stereo speakers. Mine does at times. I use > asoundconf-gdk to select the output. (use synaptic search to > find/install it) Sometimes I have to log out and back in for it to take > effect. Funny thing, it'll switch from the stereo speakers to the USB > headset immeidately, but not the other way. YMMV. It's a thought. > Trouble shooting with a shotgun here. Ric > > p/s Things are better now than they were in the days when we had to roll > a kernel to get support for your soundcard. But not a heckuvalot. :) Ric I'm pretty sure that cannot be the problem since the USB Microphone I think I have has never been connected to this machine. But thank you for the suggestion. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL nadreck at palain.com Linux User #333216 "It is a sin to believe evil of others, but it is seldom a mistake." - H.L. Mencken From lisi.reisz at gmail.com Sun May 3 22:40:56 2009 From: lisi.reisz at gmail.com (Lisi Reisz) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 23:40:56 +0100 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905032340.56531.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> On Sunday 03 May 2009 22:22:38 Ray Burke wrote: > Sirs, > > I would like to update my email address for receiving Kubuntu user forum > questions and answers from rayburke30 at hotmail. com to rayburke30 at gmail.com, > or at least be advised how to change???????? > > ray Ray - You asked this same question on this list on 22nd April, i.e. 11 days ago, and were answered at length. Lisi From gohlip at operamail.com Sun May 3 23:52:36 2009 From: gohlip at operamail.com (Goh Lip) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 07:52:36 +0800 Subject: Reading and replying to this list.-resolved Message-ID: <20090503235236.646FA7BD5A@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> > Goh Lip wrote: > > I noticed that some messages from the same list, are queries and > > replies to that same queries. How do you do that? > > > > I have to wait for the list to be completed, sent to me and then only > > then can I respond. > > I suppose you get the digest of the list. If you change your settings to > the normal mode you receive every single mail when it is sent (well > usually there is a delay of several minutes). > > > It is also a chore changing the subject, scrolling through the > > messages to quote, deleting a long portion of unrelated messages > > before sending off. > > That's another disadvantage of the digest mode - you can't reply to the > correct thread because the appropriate headers are missing. If you > change the subject some mail clients may sort your mail to the correct > thread but not necessarily after the correct message. > > > I am using a web based email program, not popped or imapped to a mail > > program; does that affect it? Maybe I am not savvy enough? Any > > suggestions? > > That depends on your web mail program, some seem to work. But as long as > you use digest mode your options are limited. > > > Nils (sheepish) Thanks. Went to that page before. Thought it is only for unsubscribing. (sheepish) Now I am waiting for the reminder to my password.(sheepish) Must have subscribed years ago; all my usual passwords didn't work.(sheepish) Meh meh meh Regards Goh Lip I used to have an open mind But my brains kept falling out. -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Sun May 3 23:51:22 2009 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 19:51:22 -0400 Subject: Keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <200905031417.43386.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <200905031623.47807.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: <200905031951.22822.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> On Sunday 03 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive from Jonas Norlander who wrote: > For keyboard and font in console you have some settings in > /etc/default/console-setup. From the vars names (XKBLAYOUT etc.) I suspect those apply to the X consoles and tty's. Had a look through dmesg, but see nothing about a keyboard being conf'ed to fr. Any other idea ? Cheers, Ron. -- Never appeal to a man's "better nature." He may not have one. Invoking his self-interest gives you more leverage. -- Lazarus Long -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From gohlip at operamail.com Sun May 3 23:55:41 2009 From: gohlip at operamail.com (Goh Lip) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 07:55:41 +0800 Subject: Reading and replying to this list.-resolved Message-ID: <20090503235541.A29EA7BD5A@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> > Goh Lip wrote: > > I noticed that some messages from the same list, are queries and > > replies to that same queries. How do you do that? > > > > I have to wait for the list to be completed, sent to me and then only > > then can I respond. > > I suppose you get the digest of the list. If you change your settings to > the normal mode you receive every single mail when it is sent (well > usually there is a delay of several minutes). > > > It is also a chore changing the subject, scrolling through the > > messages to quote, deleting a long portion of unrelated messages > > before sending off. > > That's another disadvantage of the digest mode - you can't reply to the > correct thread because the appropriate headers are missing. If you > change the subject some mail clients may sort your mail to the correct > thread but not necessarily after the correct message. > > > I am using a web based email program, not popped or imapped to a mail > > program; does that affect it? Maybe I am not savvy enough? Any > > suggestions? > > That depends on your web mail program, some seem to work. But as long as > you use digest mode your options are limited. > > > Nils (sheepish) Thanks. Went to that page before. Thought it is only for unsubscribing. (sheepish) Now I am waiting for the reminder to my password.(sheepish) Must have subscribed years ago; all my usual passwords didn't work.(sheepish) Meh meh meh Regards Goh Lip I used to have an open mind But my brains kept falling out. -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze From michael at weblore.com Mon May 4 03:02:32 2009 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:02:32 -0500 Subject: Webmin Message-ID: <200905032202.32655.michael@weblore.com> Where did package webmin go? It's not available in Jaunty -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's not available in Jaunty http://www.webmin.com/download.html there are ubuntu debs there I don't think it's been in Ubuntu, for a while at least since Dapper -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon May 4 03:22:39 2009 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 23:22:39 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Hardy - Show wallpaper, not colored desktop In-Reply-To: <49FDB381.2020604@prayingforisrael.net> References: <49FCC572.2050203@gatech.edu> <49FDB381.2020604@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <49FE5F7F.4060301@gatech.edu> Nigel Ridley wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> Somehow, I screwed up my Kubuntu Hardy desktop so it now shows only a >> blue field instead of my wallpaper. If I right-click the desktop and >> click Configure Desktop, I still see my wallpaper image file, and I see >> the blue color that appears. I could change the background color and/or >> gradient style. >> >> But what I want to do is simply show the wallpaper, and no color (or >> only at the edges). >> >> Matt Flaschen >> > > Did you try choosing another wallpaper, then reverting to your original choice? I remember having > a similar issue with Intrepid. Thank you, but I realized I'm an idiot. I deleted the wallpaper (which I really liked) by mistake when I was freeing disk space. Matt From rayburke30 at gmail.com Mon May 4 04:03:23 2009 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:03:23 +1000 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: <49FE33A3.7070302@comcast.net> References: <200905032340.56531.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <49FE33A3.7070302@comcast.net> Message-ID: [?]Lisi, Yes at that time I wanted to check out how to use the gmail for my Kubuntu forums, but now that I will use only the gmail for this I are having trouble to stop the k forum also showing still within my hotmail emails, that is why I am asking??????? ray On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Ian L. Target wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 03 May 2009 22:22:38 Ray Burke wrote: > > > >> Sirs, > >> > >> I would like to update my email address for receiving Kubuntu user forum > >> questions and answers from rayburke30 at hotmail. com to > rayburke30 at gmail.com, > >> or at least be advised how to change???????? > >> > >> ray > >> > > > > Ray - > > > > You asked this same question on this list on 22nd April, i.e. 11 days > ago, and > > were answered at length. > > > > Lisi > > > > > > He could me old and senile like me. The dementia seems to be getting > worse. Alas, Alzheimer's runs in my family. My grandmother, bless her > heart, used to tell a story and then 20 minutes later, tell you the same > exact story because she forgotten she had already told it. My > grandmother, bless her heart, used to tell a story and then 20 minutes > later, tell you the same exact story because she forgotten she had > already told it. > > Or he could just be lonely. The Kubuntu User's List is free. Match.com > charges money. > > Ian > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon May 4 07:07:17 2009 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 03:07:17 -0400 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: References: <200905032340.56531.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <49FE33A3.7070302@comcast.net> Message-ID: <49FE9425.2000503@gatech.edu> ray burke wrote: > also showing still within my hotmail emails, that is why I am asking??????? You probably signed up with gmail but didn't unsubscribe from hotmail. Matt Flaschen From dave6502 at googlemail.com Mon May 4 07:25:36 2009 From: dave6502 at googlemail.com (dave selby) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:25:36 +0100 Subject: monitor backlight won't turn off, wrote a daemon to force it on / off Message-ID: Hi All, I have a system where the monitor will blank but absolutely will not turn off. I have checked xorg.conf for DPMS, tweaked configs and googled etc and came to realize I am not alone. I came across http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/x-screen-blanking.html which shed some light but did not want to use the suggested workaround so I have written 'backlight_daemon.py' It checks 'xset -q' every couple of seconds and if it finds that the monitor should be off, it 'vbetool dpms off''s to force the issue, reports what it is doing to syslog :) It needs to be run as root, I start it by adding @reboot /usr/local/bin/backlight_daemon.py to my roots crontab. Its easier than setting up a /etc/init.d/... Anyhow it solved my problem and I wanted to share it with you guys, Cheers Dave #!/usr/bin/env python # Copyright 2008 David Selby dave6502@googlemail.com # backlight_daemon is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify # it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by # the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or # (at your option) any later version. # kmotion is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the # GNU General Public License for more details. # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License # along with backlight_daemon. If not, see . import os, sys, pwd, time, syslog from subprocess import * # breaking habit of a lifetime ! def main(): # the backlight daemon log_it('Starting ...') while True: user = find_user() check_change(user) def find_user(): # wait for a valid user who can 'xset -q -display:0.0', return that user while True: users = [i[0] for i in pwd.getpwall() if i[2] > 500 or i[2] == 0] for user in users: pipe = Popen(['sudo -u %s xset -q -display :0.0' % user], shell=True, stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE, close_fds=True) if pipe.communicate()[1] == '': log_it('Selected user \'%s\'' % user) return user time.sleep(10) def check_change(user): # check 'xset -q' and execute 'vbetool dpms on|off' monitor_on = False # system starting so monitor assumed to be off while True: pipe = Popen(['sudo -u %s xset -q -display :0.0' % user], shell=True, stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE, close_fds=True) xset_q, xset_err = pipe.communicate() if xset_err != '': break # 'user' no longer valid if monitor_on and xset_q.find('Monitor is Off') != -1: log_it('Forcing monitor backlight off') # sudo to set env variables for root in this shell Popen(['sudo vbetool dpms off'], shell=True, close_fds=True) monitor_on = False if not monitor_on and xset_q.find('Monitor is On') != -1: log_it('Forcing monitor backlight on') # sudo to set env variables for root in this shell Popen(['sudo vbetool dpms on'], shell=True, close_fds=True) monitor_on = True time.sleep(2) def log_it(msg): # log 'msg' to syslog syslog.openlog('backlight_daemon', syslog.LOG_PID) syslog.syslog(msg) syslog.closelog() main() -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. 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I found that if I use Ctrl+^ (that is the key above the Tab key on my German keyboard) for "desktop left" and Ctrl+Tab for "desktop right" it works. Nils From tony.caudel at sbcglobal.net Mon May 4 08:44:51 2009 From: tony.caudel at sbcglobal.net (Anthony E. Caudel) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 03:44:51 -0500 Subject: Dolphin problem In-Reply-To: <200905032027.37801.kassube@gmx.net> References: <45491C76-12AD-4B9D-A292-9F0D40FC7FF1@sbcglobal.net> <200905032027.37801.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <855B4608-AFE4-4401-BE98-4BE69BB80268@sbcglobal.net> On May 3, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Anthony E. Caudel wrote: >> In Dolphin, whenever I mount any other partitions or drives, they >> appear on the left simply as "Volume" with no further identifier >> other than the filesystem type. This isn't very informative. I have >> several "volumes" and they all show the same name. Is there any way >> to get it to show the partition (/dev/sdb2 for example)? > > You can give those partitions labels, then Dolphin displays the labels > instead of "volume (ext3)" etc. For instructions look here: > > Thanks, this looks like what I need. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin From fatgerman at ntlworld.com Mon May 4 09:43:17 2009 From: fatgerman at ntlworld.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:43:17 +0100 Subject: monitor backlight won't turn off, wrote a daemon to force it on / off In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905041043.17643.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> On Monday 04 May 2009 08:25:36 dave selby wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a system where the monitor will blank but absolutely will not turn off. > > I have checked xorg.conf for DPMS, tweaked configs and googled etc and > came to realize I am not alone. > I came across http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/x-screen-blanking.html > which shed some light but did not want to > use the suggested workaround so I have written 'backlight_daemon.py' > > It checks 'xset -q' every couple of seconds and if it finds that the > monitor should be off, it 'vbetool dpms off''s to > force the issue, reports what it is doing to syslog :) > > It needs to be run as root, I start it by adding > > @reboot /usr/local/bin/backlight_daemon.py > > to my roots crontab. Its easier than setting up a /etc/init.d/... > > Anyhow it solved my problem and I wanted to share it with you guys, > > Cheers > > Dave It may not be that complicated. I had a similar problem and found that I simply needed to be a member of the 'video' group. Mark > > > > > > #!/usr/bin/env python > > # Copyright 2008 David Selby dave6502@googlemail.com > > # backlight_daemon is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify > # it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by > # the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or > # (at your option) any later version. > > # kmotion is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, > # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of > # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the > # GNU General Public License for more details. > > # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License > # along with backlight_daemon. If not, see . > > > import os, sys, pwd, time, syslog > from subprocess import * # breaking habit of a lifetime ! > > > def main(): > # the backlight daemon > log_it('Starting ...') > while True: > user = find_user() > check_change(user) > > > def find_user(): > # wait for a valid user who can 'xset -q -display:0.0', return that user > while True: > users = [i[0] for i in pwd.getpwall() if i[2] > 500 or i[2] == 0] > for user in users: > pipe = Popen(['sudo -u %s xset -q -display :0.0' % user], > shell=True, stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE, close_fds=True) > if pipe.communicate()[1] == '': > log_it('Selected user \'%s\'' % user) > return user > time.sleep(10) > > > def check_change(user): > # check 'xset -q' and execute 'vbetool dpms on|off' > monitor_on = False # system starting so monitor assumed to be off > while True: > pipe = Popen(['sudo -u %s xset -q -display :0.0' % user], > shell=True, stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE, close_fds=True) > xset_q, xset_err = pipe.communicate() > if xset_err != '': > break # 'user' no longer valid > > if monitor_on and xset_q.find('Monitor is Off') != -1: > log_it('Forcing monitor backlight off') > # sudo to set env variables for root in this shell > Popen(['sudo vbetool dpms off'], shell=True, close_fds=True) > monitor_on = False > > if not monitor_on and xset_q.find('Monitor is On') != -1: > log_it('Forcing monitor backlight on') > # sudo to set env variables for root in this shell > Popen(['sudo vbetool dpms on'], shell=True, close_fds=True) > monitor_on = True > > time.sleep(2) > > > def log_it(msg): > # log 'msg' to syslog > syslog.openlog('backlight_daemon', syslog.LOG_PID) > syslog.syslog(msg) > syslog.closelog() > > > main() > > > > > From lisi.reisz at gmail.com Mon May 4 09:56:22 2009 From: lisi.reisz at gmail.com (Lisi Reisz) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:56:22 +0100 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: References: <49FE33A3.7070302@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200905041056.22614.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> On Monday 04 May 2009 05:03:23 ray burke wrote: > but now that I will use only the gmail for this I are having trouble to > stop the k forum > also showing still within my hotmail emails, that is why I am asking??????? Have you tried unsubscribing in the name of the Hotmail address? (For how, see the end of all emails that come through the list.) Remember to confirm the unsubscription, or it will not take effect. Lisi From dave6502 at googlemail.com Mon May 4 10:13:02 2009 From: dave6502 at googlemail.com (dave selby) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:13:02 +0100 Subject: monitor backlight won't turn off, wrote a daemon to force it on / off In-Reply-To: <200905041043.17643.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> References: <200905041043.17643.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: 2009/5/4 Mark Greenwood : > On Monday 04 May 2009 08:25:36 dave selby wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I have a system where the monitor will blank but absolutely will not turn off. >> >> I have checked xorg.conf for DPMS, tweaked configs and googled etc and >> came to realize I am not alone. >> I came across http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/x-screen-blanking.html >> which shed some light but did not want to >> use the suggested workaround so I have written 'backlight_daemon.py' >> >> It checks 'xset -q' every couple of seconds and if it finds that the >> monitor should be off, it 'vbetool dpms off''s to >> force the issue, reports what it is doing to syslog :) >> >> It needs to be run as root, I start it by adding >> >> @reboot /usr/local/bin/backlight_daemon.py >> >> to my roots crontab. Its easier than setting up a /etc/init.d/... >> >> Anyhow it solved my problem and I wanted to share it with you guys, >> >> Cheers >> >> Dave > > It may not be that complicated. I had a similar problem and found that I simply needed to be a member of the 'video' group. > > Mark rofl, I will give it a go :) Dave >> >> >> >> >> #!/usr/bin/env python >> >> # Copyright 2008 David Selby dave6502@googlemail.com >> >> # backlight_daemon is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify >> # it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by >> # the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or >> # (at your option) any later version. >> >> # kmotion is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, >> # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of >> # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the >> # GNU General Public License for more details. >> >> # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License >> # along with backlight_daemon. If not, see . >> >> >> import os, sys, pwd, time, syslog >> from subprocess import * # breaking habit of a lifetime ! >> >> >> def main(): >>     # the backlight daemon >>     log_it('Starting ...') >>     while True: >>         user = find_user() >>         check_change(user) >> >> >> def find_user(): >>     # wait for a valid user who can 'xset -q -display:0.0', return that user >>     while True: >>         users = [i[0] for i in pwd.getpwall() if i[2] > 500 or i[2] == 0] >>         for user in users: >>             pipe = Popen(['sudo -u %s xset -q -display :0.0' % user], >> shell=True, stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE, close_fds=True) >>             if pipe.communicate()[1] == '': >>                 log_it('Selected user \'%s\'' % user) >>                 return user >>         time.sleep(10) >> >> >> def check_change(user): >>     # check 'xset -q' and execute 'vbetool dpms on|off' >>     monitor_on = False # system starting so monitor assumed to be off >>     while True: >>         pipe = Popen(['sudo -u %s xset -q -display :0.0' % user], >> shell=True, stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE, close_fds=True) >>         xset_q, xset_err = pipe.communicate() >>         if xset_err != '': >>             break # 'user' no longer valid >> >>         if monitor_on and xset_q.find('Monitor is Off') != -1: >>             log_it('Forcing monitor backlight off') >>             # sudo to set env variables for root in this shell >>             Popen(['sudo vbetool dpms off'], shell=True, close_fds=True) >>             monitor_on = False >> >>         if not monitor_on and xset_q.find('Monitor is On') != -1: >>             log_it('Forcing monitor backlight on') >>             # sudo to set env variables for root in this shell >>             Popen(['sudo vbetool dpms on'], shell=True, close_fds=True) >>             monitor_on = True >> >>         time.sleep(2) >> >> >> def log_it(msg): >>     # log 'msg' to syslog >>     syslog.openlog('backlight_daemon', syslog.LOG_PID) >>     syslog.syslog(msg) >>     syslog.closelog() >> >> >> main() >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From myriam at ubuntu.com Mon May 4 10:18:27 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:18:27 +0200 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: References: <200905032340.56531.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <49FE33A3.7070302@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 06:03, ray burke wrote: > [?]Lisi, > > Yes at that time I wanted to check out how to use the gmail for my Kubuntu > forums, > but now that I will use only the gmail for this I are having trouble to > stop the k forum > also showing still within my hotmail emails, that is why I am asking??????? > You obviously still send HTML mail, could you please deactivate this? Also, you are not subscribed anymore with your hotmail account, so if you still get those it's likely you have a forwarding set to that address. Check in the settings -> accounts in Google mail on how you have configured your settings. 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Cheers Dave From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Mon May 4 11:22:50 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:22:50 -0300 Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 In-Reply-To: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905040422w3c9c8425ld15cc0e565ce5ae@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 01:08, Jerry Lapham wrote: > How do you change panel colors - both background and text? > For what i know you can't change panel options. For whatever reason they had, KDE devs thought it was very smart to not allow users to customize these things. Only the theme has control on how these things look. Silly, if you ask me. From david at dmcentral.net Mon May 4 11:29:10 2009 From: david at dmcentral.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 07:29:10 -0400 Subject: Webmin In-Reply-To: <200905032313.37833.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <200905032202.32655.michael@weblore.com> <200905032313.37833.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <200905040729.10250.david@dmcentral.net> On Sunday 03 May 2009 11:13:37 pm Clay Weber wrote: > On Sunday 03 May 2009 11:02:32 pm Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > Where did package webmin go? It's not available in Jaunty > > http://www.webmin.com/download.html > there are ubuntu debs there > > I don't think it's been in Ubuntu, for a while at least since Dapper Thats about right. I've been downloading the .deb from sourceforge for the past 2 or 3 years Here's the .deb: http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=webadmin&filename=webmin_1.470_all.deb&use_mirror=voxel Blessings, David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Mon May 4 11:33:02 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:33:02 -0300 Subject: Switching off all ound notifications In-Reply-To: References: <200904301810.44284.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200904301908.41247.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905040433w688b69c0n69975062a3ae7828@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 04:30, marc wrote: > Clay Weber said: > >> On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:26:48 pm marc wrote: >>> Clay Weber said: >>> > On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:06:00 pm marc wrote: >>> >> It used to be possible to switch off all sound notifications in a >>> >> single click. I can't find where to do this now. Anyone know? >>> >> Thanks. >>> > >>> > Try System Settings / Notifications / Player Settings and check "no >>> > audio output" >>> > That , um, sounds like that is what you are looking for >>> >>> Ah, I thought that was for all audio, not just notifications. >>> >>> However, it doesn't work for gnome apps (in Kubuntu), which continue >>> peeping and pinging and burbling every time you hit a button. And, of >>> course, the apps themselves don't have their own audio controls; I know >>> not why, I really don't. >> >> Unfortunately, you will probably have to go into gnome's preferences and >> disable it there, too. >> >> You are more or less running two separate desktop environments that >> don't use the same settings. There are some standards, such as menus and >> similar, but once you open a gnome app, it will look for gnome settings. >> KDE's settings aren't used there (and vice-versa). > > Yup, but I really thin they should be unified in this case. As I implied, > this whole "new" area hasn't been thought through at all. > This is no easy feat IMHO, since, for starts Gnome and KDE use two completly different sound architecture. KDE4 uses Phonon and Gnome is using Pulseaudio, so no, in the short term, I can't see this changing. After all this is what makes them TWO different desktops, instead of a single project. From gmane at auxbuss.com Mon May 4 12:33:24 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Switching off all ound notifications References: <200904301810.44284.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200904301908.41247.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4c6e034d0905040433w688b69c0n69975062a3ae7828@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Antonio Augusto (Mancha) said: > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 04:30, marc wrote: >> Clay Weber said: >> >>> On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:26:48 pm marc wrote: >>>> Clay Weber said: >>>> > On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:06:00 pm marc wrote: >>>> >> It used to be possible to switch off all sound notifications in a >>>> >> single click. I can't find where to do this now. Anyone know? >>>> >> Thanks. >>>> > >>>> > Try System Settings / Notifications / Player Settings and check "no >>>> > audio output" >>>> > That , um, sounds like that is what you are looking for >>>> >>>> Ah, I thought that was for all audio, not just notifications. >>>> >>>> However, it doesn't work for gnome apps (in Kubuntu), which continue >>>> peeping and pinging and burbling every time you hit a button. And, of >>>> course, the apps themselves don't have their own audio controls; I >>>> know not why, I really don't. >>> >>> Unfortunately, you will probably have to go into gnome's preferences >>> and disable it there, too. >>> >>> You are more or less running two separate desktop environments that >>> don't use the same settings. There are some standards, such as menus >>> and similar, but once you open a gnome app, it will look for gnome >>> settings. KDE's settings aren't used there (and vice-versa). >> >> Yup, but I really thin they should be unified in this case. As I >> implied, this whole "new" area hasn't been thought through at all. >> >> > This is no easy feat IMHO, since, for starts Gnome and KDE use two > completly different sound architecture. KDE4 uses Phonon and Gnome is > using Pulseaudio, so no, in the short term, I can't see this changing. Nah, phonon can use pulse audio. They are two different things. > After all this is what makes them TWO different desktops, instead of a > single project. Linux is a multi user system. If gnome and kde can't live together then we're stuffed. You can't just wave your arms and say this issue is inherent in having both available. Where the heck do you stop with that line of reasoning? -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Mon May 4 12:40:02 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040422w3c9c8425ld15cc0e565ce5ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Antonio Augusto (Mancha) said: > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 01:08, Jerry Lapham wrote: >> How do you change panel colors - both background and text? >> >> > For what i know you can't change panel options. For whatever reason they > had, KDE devs thought it was very smart to not allow users to customize > these things. Only the theme has control on how these things look. > Silly, if you ask me. I agree. Seems you can only apply "themes" now. For each widget you can choose your own "file", but there's no help, so I've no idea what those files are supposed to be. Maybe they'll add colour selection, translucency and all the other that they threw away at some point. Who knows? -- Best, Marc From eagles051387 at gmail.com Mon May 4 12:44:53 2009 From: eagles051387 at gmail.com (Jonathan Aquilina) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:44:53 +0200 Subject: wubi installation woes on vista 64bit Message-ID: are there any known issues with wubi on vista 64bit? for some reason i cannot install it and keep getting errors. i have tried turning vista uac off and installing wont work with it on same issue :( would really love to get kubuntu installed via wubi. -- Jonathan Aquilina -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sascha.guethling at gmail.com Mon May 4 12:58:27 2009 From: sascha.guethling at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:58:27 -0400 Subject: wubi installation woes on vista 64bit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8abf83c20905040558x3cb0ebb9o30d4579f7b3667b1@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > are there any known issues with wubi on vista 64bit? for some reason i > cannot install it and keep getting errors. i have tried turning vista uac > off and installing wont work with it on same issue :( would really love to > get kubuntu installed via wubi. > > -- > Jonathan Aquilina > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > I know it doesn't help YOU, but I had no problems installing wubi on 64bit vista. So it is no general problem. Just a guess: Does wubi have admin rights? Seems to be a common problem. OTOH it would help if you could post some error message, so we can understand what the exact problem is. Sascha -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From myriam at ubuntu.com Mon May 4 13:35:18 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:35:18 +0200 Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 In-Reply-To: References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040422w3c9c8425ld15cc0e565ce5ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 14:40, marc wrote: > Antonio Augusto (Mancha) said: > >> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 01:08, Jerry Lapham wrote: >>> How do you change panel colors - both background and text? >>> >>> >> For what i know you can't change panel options. For whatever reason they >> had, KDE devs thought it was very smart to not allow users to customize >> these things. Only the theme has control on how these things look. >> Silly, if you ask me. That is not silly, it's due to the architecture of plasma: do you know that you need as much as 9 layers for a SVG icon? See? Everybody can submit themes to kde-looks.org, BTW, so that is not in the sole hands of the Oxygen and Plasma devs. It just makes no sense for the average user to change isolated items in a theme, as it would break the overall picture. I can already hear the outcries like "my Panel is broken!!! Stupid developers!!!" from the usual suspects... Please, people, all this can be found in the various pages through Google, as well as on the kde.org websites. So instead of accusing developers of silliness and throwing out wild guesses about the whys and hows, a bit of reading and documenting would not hurt... That's how Free Software works, everybody can contribute to his/her abilities, just don't expect miracles and keep your comments constructive, especially if you do not know the behinds of the scene. Also, unlike the proprietary software scene where users are kept in ignorance deliberately, in the Linux world there is everything available, but of course one has to read and learn a little.. Regards, Myriam. PS. What about reading the CoC every once in a while before posting? -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From myriam at ubuntu.com Mon May 4 13:36:42 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:36:42 +0200 Subject: wubi installation woes on vista 64bit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 14:44, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > are there any known issues with wubi on vista 64bit? for some reason i > cannot install it and keep getting errors. i have tried turning vista uac > off and installing wont work with it on same issue :( would really love to > get kubuntu installed via wubi. Did you do a search for bugs in Launchpad? Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From alain.muls at telenet.be Mon May 4 13:41:16 2009 From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:41:16 +0200 Subject: twinview and wallpaper Message-ID: <200905041541.16873.alain.muls@telenet.be> Hi Using Kubuntu 0.04 I retried the twinview and it works using the nvidea settings program. My wallpaper is only visible on the main screen. How can you have the wallpaper (perhaps another one) on the second screen. At this moment it is the (ugly :-)) kubuntu background. Tx/Alain From derek at pointerstop.ca Mon May 4 14:01:32 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 11:01:32 -0300 Subject: Jaunty Musings References: <49FB65A8.1000705@comcast.net> <200905021246.16052.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Amichai Rotman wrote: > So, I'd like to make sure. Is Jaunty kind of a beta release? Not at all. It's stable and far better than 8.10 was, imo. -- derek From eagles051387 at gmail.com Mon May 4 14:31:54 2009 From: eagles051387 at gmail.com (Jonathan Aquilina) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:31:54 +0200 Subject: wubi installation woes on vista 64bit Message-ID: i was trying with the beta of jaunty so im wondering if the released version of jaunty will give me the same error if not then it was something with the beta. if same error persists ill check launchpad. On 5/4/09, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Send kubuntu-users mailing list submissions to > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kubuntu-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) > 2. Re: Webmin (David McGlone) > 3. Re: Switching off all ound notifications > (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) > 4. Re: Switching off all ound notifications (marc) > 5. Re: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 (marc) > 6. wubi installation woes on vista 64bit (Jonathan Aquilina) > 7. Re: wubi installation woes on vista 64bit (Sascha G?thling) > 8. Re: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 (Myriam Schweingruber) > 9. Re: wubi installation woes on vista 64bit (Myriam Schweingruber) > 10. twinview and wallpaper (Alain Muls) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:22:50 -0300 > From: "Antonio Augusto (Mancha)" > Subject: Re: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: > <4c6e034d0905040422w3c9c8425ld15cc0e565ce5ae at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 01:08, Jerry Lapham wrote: >> How do you change panel colors - both background and text? >> > > For what i know you can't change panel options. > For whatever reason they had, KDE devs thought it was very smart to > not allow users to customize these things. > Only the theme has control on how these things look. > Silly, if you ask me. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 07:29:10 -0400 > From: David McGlone > Subject: Re: Webmin > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <200905040729.10250.david at dmcentral.net> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Sunday 03 May 2009 11:13:37 pm Clay Weber wrote: >> On Sunday 03 May 2009 11:02:32 pm Michael Satterwhite wrote: >> > Where did package webmin go? It's not available in Jaunty >> >> http://www.webmin.com/download.html >> there are ubuntu debs there >> >> I don't think it's been in Ubuntu, for a while at least since Dapper > > Thats about right. I've been downloading the .deb from sourceforge for the > past 2 or 3 years > > Here's the .deb: > > http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=webadmin&filename=webmin_1.470_all.deb&use_mirror=voxel > > Blessings, > David M. > http://www.dmcentral.net > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:33:02 -0300 > From: "Antonio Augusto (Mancha)" > Subject: Re: Switching off all ound notifications > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: > <4c6e034d0905040433w688b69c0n69975062a3ae7828 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 04:30, marc wrote: >> Clay Weber said: >> >>> On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:26:48 pm marc wrote: >>>> Clay Weber said: >>>> > On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:06:00 pm marc wrote: >>>> >> It used to be possible to switch off all sound notifications in a >>>> >> single click. I can't find where to do this now. Anyone know? >>>> >> Thanks. >>>> > >>>> > Try System Settings / Notifications / Player Settings and check "no >>>> > audio output" >>>> > That , um, sounds like that is what you are looking for >>>> >>>> Ah, I thought that was for all audio, not just notifications. >>>> >>>> However, it doesn't work for gnome apps (in Kubuntu), which continue >>>> peeping and pinging and burbling every time you hit a button. And, of >>>> course, the apps themselves don't have their own audio controls; I know >>>> not why, I really don't. >>> >>> Unfortunately, you will probably have to go into gnome's preferences and >>> disable it there, too. >>> >>> You are more or less running two separate desktop environments that >>> don't use the same settings. There are some standards, such as menus and >>> similar, but once you open a gnome app, it will look for gnome settings. >>> KDE's settings aren't used there (and vice-versa). >> >> Yup, but I really thin they should be unified in this case. As I implied, >> this whole "new" area hasn't been thought through at all. >> > > This is no easy feat IMHO, since, for starts Gnome and KDE use two > completly different sound architecture. KDE4 uses Phonon and Gnome is > using Pulseaudio, so no, in the short term, I can't see this changing. > After all this is what makes them TWO different desktops, instead of a > single project. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:33:24 +0000 (UTC) > From: marc > Subject: Re: Switching off all ound notifications > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Antonio Augusto (Mancha) said: > >> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 04:30, marc wrote: >>> Clay Weber said: >>> >>>> On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:26:48 pm marc wrote: >>>>> Clay Weber said: >>>>> > On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:06:00 pm marc wrote: >>>>> >> It used to be possible to switch off all sound notifications in a >>>>> >> single click. I can't find where to do this now. Anyone know? >>>>> >> Thanks. >>>>> > >>>>> > Try System Settings / Notifications / Player Settings and check "no >>>>> > audio output" >>>>> > That , um, sounds like that is what you are looking for >>>>> >>>>> Ah, I thought that was for all audio, not just notifications. >>>>> >>>>> However, it doesn't work for gnome apps (in Kubuntu), which continue >>>>> peeping and pinging and burbling every time you hit a button. And, of >>>>> course, the apps themselves don't have their own audio controls; I >>>>> know not why, I really don't. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, you will probably have to go into gnome's preferences >>>> and disable it there, too. >>>> >>>> You are more or less running two separate desktop environments that >>>> don't use the same settings. There are some standards, such as menus >>>> and similar, but once you open a gnome app, it will look for gnome >>>> settings. KDE's settings aren't used there (and vice-versa). >>> >>> Yup, but I really thin they should be unified in this case. As I >>> implied, this whole "new" area hasn't been thought through at all. >>> >>> >> This is no easy feat IMHO, since, for starts Gnome and KDE use two >> completly different sound architecture. KDE4 uses Phonon and Gnome is >> using Pulseaudio, so no, in the short term, I can't see this changing. > > Nah, phonon can use pulse audio. They are two different things. > >> After all this is what makes them TWO different desktops, instead of a >> single project. > > Linux is a multi user system. If gnome and kde can't live together then > we're stuffed. > > You can't just wave your arms and say this issue is inherent in having > both available. Where the heck do you stop with that line of reasoning? > > -- > Best, > Marc > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:40:02 +0000 (UTC) > From: marc > Subject: Re: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Antonio Augusto (Mancha) said: > >> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 01:08, Jerry Lapham wrote: >>> How do you change panel colors - both background and text? >>> >>> >> For what i know you can't change panel options. For whatever reason they >> had, KDE devs thought it was very smart to not allow users to customize >> these things. Only the theme has control on how these things look. >> Silly, if you ask me. > > I agree. > > Seems you can only apply "themes" now. For each widget you can choose > your own "file", but there's no help, so I've no idea what those files > are supposed to be. > > Maybe they'll add colour selection, translucency and all the other that > they threw away at some point. Who knows? > > -- > Best, > Marc > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:44:53 +0200 > From: Jonathan Aquilina > Subject: wubi installation woes on vista 64bit > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > are there any known issues with wubi on vista 64bit? for some reason i > cannot install it and keep getting errors. i have tried turning vista uac > off and installing wont work with it on same issue :( would really love to > get kubuntu installed via wubi. > > -- > Jonathan Aquilina > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/attachments/20090504/b5606b54/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:58:27 -0400 > From: Sascha G?thling > Subject: Re: wubi installation woes on vista 64bit > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: > <8abf83c20905040558x3cb0ebb9o30d4579f7b3667b1 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Jonathan Aquilina > wrote: > >> are there any known issues with wubi on vista 64bit? for some reason i >> cannot install it and keep getting errors. i have tried turning vista uac >> off and installing wont work with it on same issue :( would really love to >> get kubuntu installed via wubi. >> >> -- >> Jonathan Aquilina >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > I know it doesn't help YOU, but I had no problems installing wubi on 64bit > vista. So it is no general problem. > > Just a guess: Does wubi have admin rights? Seems to be a common problem. > > OTOH it would help if you could post some error message, so we can > understand what the exact problem is. > > Sascha > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/attachments/20090504/65c24a0b/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:35:18 +0200 > From: Myriam Schweingruber > Subject: Re: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 14:40, marc wrote: >> Antonio Augusto (Mancha) said: >> >>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 01:08, Jerry Lapham wrote: >>>> How do you change panel colors - both background and text? >>>> >>>> >>> For what i know you can't change panel options. For whatever reason they >>> had, KDE devs thought it was very smart to not allow users to customize >>> these things. Only the theme has control on how these things look. >>> Silly, if you ask me. > > That is not silly, it's due to the architecture of plasma: do you know > that you need as much as 9 layers for a SVG icon? See? > > Everybody can submit themes to kde-looks.org, BTW, so that is not in > the sole hands of the Oxygen and Plasma devs. It just makes no sense > for the average user to change isolated items in a theme, as it would > break the overall picture. I can already hear the outcries like "my > Panel is broken!!! Stupid developers!!!" from the usual suspects... > > Please, people, all this can be found in the various pages through > Google, as well as on the kde.org websites. So instead of accusing > developers of silliness and throwing out wild guesses about the whys > and hows, a bit of reading and documenting would not hurt... > > That's how Free Software works, everybody can contribute to his/her > abilities, just don't expect miracles and keep your comments > constructive, especially if you do not know the behinds of the scene. > Also, unlike the proprietary software scene where users are kept in > ignorance deliberately, in the Linux world there is everything > available, but of course one has to read and learn a little.. > > > Regards, Myriam. > > PS. What about reading the CoC every once in a while before posting? > -- > Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: > http://www.fsfe.org > Please don't send me proprietary file formats, > use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:36:42 +0200 > From: Myriam Schweingruber > Subject: Re: wubi installation woes on vista 64bit > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 14:44, Jonathan Aquilina > wrote: >> are there any known issues with wubi on vista 64bit? for some reason i >> cannot install it and keep getting errors. i have tried turning vista uac >> off and installing wont work with it on same issue :( would really love to >> get kubuntu installed via wubi. > > Did you do a search for bugs in Launchpad? > > > Regards, Myriam. > -- > Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: > http://www.fsfe.org > Please don't send me proprietary file formats, > use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:41:16 +0200 > From: Alain Muls > Subject: twinview and wallpaper > To: "kubuntu-users" > Message-ID: <200905041541.16873.alain.muls at telenet.be> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi > > Using Kubuntu 0.04 I retried the twinview and it works using the nvidea > settings > program. My wallpaper is only visible on the main screen. How can you have > the > wallpaper (perhaps another one) on the second screen. At this moment it is > the > (ugly :-)) kubuntu background. > > Tx/Alain > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > End of kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 52, Issue 21 > ********************************************* > -- Jonathan Aquilina From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Mon May 4 14:41:43 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:41:43 -0300 Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 In-Reply-To: References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040422w3c9c8425ld15cc0e565ce5ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905040741sb2b5766k992ec96b982dfc72@mail.gmail.com> Hello Myriam, All my ponctuations and questions here are by no means offensive or sarcartisc. If they sound like that I'm sorry for that, and please read them again trying to get this tone sorted out :) On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:35, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 14:40, marc wrote: >> Antonio Augusto (Mancha) said: >> >>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 01:08, Jerry Lapham wrote: >>>> How do you change panel colors - both background and text? >>>> >>>> >>> For what i know you can't change panel options. For whatever reason they >>> had, KDE devs thought it was very smart to not allow users to customize >>> these things. Only the theme has control on how these things look. >>> Silly, if you ask me. > > That is not silly, it's due to the architecture of plasma: do you know > that you need as much as 9 layers for a SVG icon? See? No I didn't know that. But what does the (as much as) 9 layers for a icon has to do with the color of the panel? > Everybody can submit themes to kde-looks.org, BTW, so that is not in > the sole hands of the Oxygen and Plasma devs. It just makes no sense > for the average user to change isolated items in a theme, as it would > break the overall picture. I can already hear the outcries like "my > Panel is broken!!! Stupid developers!!!" from the usual suspects... Actually, by not been able to change the panel color my overall picture is broken :) See, I don't use compositing, and I'm using the Oxygen theme. I've choosen a bluish color scheme to go with my oxygen, so my window title is blue but the panel is black. This doesn't means that the color scheme I've choose for Oxygen is broken, this means that I, as the user, have to endure whatever the Oxygen designer thought was the best combination he could come with. And this applies not only to Oxygen but to ANY theme I can get my hands on. This happens because the color of the panel is defined by theme itself and not by the color scheme I'm using. So, by not being able to change the panel color, the "overall picture" is broken. > Please, people, all this can be found in the various pages through > Google, as well as on the kde.org websites. So instead of accusing > developers of silliness and throwing out wild guesses about the whys > and hows, a bit of reading and documenting would not hurt... > > That's how Free Software works, everybody can contribute to his/her > abilities, just don't expect miracles and keep your comments > constructive, especially if you do not know the behinds of the scene. With all this in mind this, IMHO, is a feature that is lacking. Maybe it will be there in a future relase and so I'll shut up about this (hope so). I know this behavior is related on how plasma was designed, and I'm not bashing developers, and I'm not saying they are stupid or anything. Maybe this was done this way in order to archive a greater objective, I really don't know. I love KDE4 and Kubuntu, but allowing an user to change the color scheme EXCEPT for the color of the panel (even thou I know that is not just the panel that get affected by this), is, a feature that is lacking in KDE4. > Also, unlike the proprietary software scene where users are kept in > ignorance deliberately, in the Linux world there is everything > available, but of course one has to read and learn a little.. I admire the way Open Source does things, thats why I use it, and, being a developer myself, I'm willing to take a look at how things were done under the hood, and, if possible, propose changes to this subject, when I've more free time in my hands. > Regards, Myriam. To you too :) > PS. What about reading the CoC every once in a while before posting? It must be time for me to re-read it again... Oh well... From myriam at ubuntu.com Mon May 4 14:45:09 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:45:09 +0200 Subject: wubi installation woes on vista 64bit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jonathan, On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 16:31, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > i was trying with the beta of jaunty so im wondering if the released > version of jaunty will give me the same error if not then it was > something with the beta. if same error persists ill check launchpad. Jaunty is released since ten days, I really wonder why you are testing obsolete stuff... If you actually want to do bug triaging, I suggest you test with officially released versions. [trimmed hundreds of unnecessary lines] If you read digest mail, please edit it and trim your message as stated in the top of the actual digest mail you receive. Also, please avoid top posting, it makes thread reading difficult to everybody. FYI, there are guidelines to this list you should read: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists/etiquette Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Mon May 4 14:47:31 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:47:31 -0300 Subject: Switching off all ound notifications In-Reply-To: References: <200904301810.44284.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200904301908.41247.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4c6e034d0905040433w688b69c0n69975062a3ae7828@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905040747n3086d52dgc90d3bd27cd1fca9@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 09:33, marc wrote: > Antonio Augusto (Mancha) said: > >> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 04:30, marc wrote: >>> Clay Weber said: >>> >>>> On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:26:48 pm marc wrote: >>>>> Clay Weber said: >>>>> > On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:06:00 pm marc wrote: >>>>> >> It used to be possible to switch off all sound notifications in a >>>>> >> single click. I can't find where to do this now. Anyone know? >>>>> >> Thanks. >>>>> > >>>>> > Try System Settings / Notifications / Player Settings and check "no >>>>> > audio output" >>>>> > That , um, sounds like that is what you are looking for >>>>> >>>>> Ah, I thought that was for all audio, not just notifications. >>>>> >>>>> However, it doesn't work for gnome apps (in Kubuntu), which continue >>>>> peeping and pinging and burbling every time you hit a button. And, of >>>>> course, the apps themselves don't have their own audio controls; I >>>>> know not why, I really don't. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, you will probably have to go into gnome's preferences >>>> and disable it there, too. >>>> >>>> You are more or less running two separate desktop environments that >>>> don't use the same settings. There are some standards, such as menus >>>> and similar, but once you open a gnome app, it will look for gnome >>>> settings. KDE's settings aren't used there (and vice-versa). >>> >>> Yup, but I really thin they should be unified in this case. As I >>> implied, this whole "new" area hasn't been thought through at all. >>> >>> >> This is no easy feat IMHO, since, for starts Gnome and KDE use two >> completly different sound architecture. KDE4 uses Phonon and Gnome is >> using Pulseaudio, so no, in the short term, I can't see this changing. > > Nah, phonon can use pulse audio. They are two different things. So you just demonstrated my point :) They are two different things, so how come you want them to behave as one? > >> After all this is what makes them TWO different desktops, instead of a >> single project. > > Linux is a multi user system. If gnome and kde can't live together then > we're stuffed. Multi user yeah: if two uses log-on on the system and one uses KDE and the others uses Gnome the settings of one won't mess with that of the other. Thats what multiuser means. What you want is interoperability and integration between two different applications. And thats up to the developers of each application. > You can't just wave your arms and say this issue is inherent in having > both available. Where the heck do you stop with that line of reasoning? So, tell me whats the problem is then. If its not inherent to using two different apps, that use two different architectures, than I don't really know what can be :) What you are trying to do is more or less tha same sa saying: I want my bookmarks on Firefox to appear in Konqueror automagically, and vice-versa. This can be accomplished only if both teams decide to store their bookmarks on the same location and with the same format. Hope i made myself clear. Cheers. From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon May 4 14:51:19 2009 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 08:51:19 -0600 Subject: jaunty: no BBC sound Message-ID: <49FF00E7.8030101@gmail.com> In intrepid I could listen to BBC radio stations just fine. In jaunty I get no sound at all from them. I can hear notifications fine. Also, amarok works. But when I try to play a stream from the BBC (e.g., http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/realmedia/sport_live/sportlive_slot4.ram) all I get is silence. I've tried this in FF and in Konqueror; both behave the same way. The player window strongly suggests that the audio protocol is OK -- I appear to be receiving the stream properly; it's just not playing. I hate being forced to fire up a Windows computer just for this purpose; does anyone have any idea why my jaunty installation might be failing when intrepid was fine? Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Its easier than setting up a /etc/init.d/... > > Anyhow it solved my problem and I wanted to share it with you guys, I just use this in my crontab: 3 * * * * /usr/bin/xset -display :0 dpms 1200,0,0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gmane at auxbuss.com Mon May 4 16:02:23 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Switching off all ound notifications References: <200904301810.44284.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200904301908.41247.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4c6e034d0905040433w688b69c0n69975062a3ae7828@mail.gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040747n3086d52dgc90d3bd27cd1fca9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Antonio Augusto (Mancha) said: > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 09:33, marc wrote: >> Antonio Augusto (Mancha) said: >> >>> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 04:30, marc wrote: >>>> Clay Weber said: >>>> >>>>> On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:26:48 pm marc wrote: >>>>>> Clay Weber said: >>>>>> > On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:06:00 pm marc wrote: >>>>>> >> It used to be possible to switch off all sound notifications in >>>>>> >> a single click. I can't find where to do this now. Anyone know? >>>>>> >> Thanks. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Try System Settings / Notifications / Player Settings and check >>>>>> > "no audio output" >>>>>> > That , um, sounds like that is what you are looking for >>>>>> >>>>>> Ah, I thought that was for all audio, not just notifications. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, it doesn't work for gnome apps (in Kubuntu), which >>>>>> continue peeping and pinging and burbling every time you hit a >>>>>> button. And, of course, the apps themselves don't have their own >>>>>> audio controls; I know not why, I really don't. >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, you will probably have to go into gnome's preferences >>>>> and disable it there, too. >>>>> >>>>> You are more or less running two separate desktop environments that >>>>> don't use the same settings. There are some standards, such as menus >>>>> and similar, but once you open a gnome app, it will look for gnome >>>>> settings. KDE's settings aren't used there (and vice-versa). >>>> >>>> Yup, but I really thin they should be unified in this case. As I >>>> implied, this whole "new" area hasn't been thought through at all. >>>> >>>> >>> This is no easy feat IMHO, since, for starts Gnome and KDE use two >>> completly different sound architecture. KDE4 uses Phonon and Gnome is >>> using Pulseaudio, so no, in the short term, I can't see this changing. >> >> Nah, phonon can use pulse audio. They are two different things. > > So you just demonstrated my point :) No I didn't. > They are two different things, so how come you want them to behave as > one? Try some education before you start slinging arrows. Phonon is a high-level API. Look it up. Pulse is a broader API and an audio engine. $ ps -e Look ma, a process! If you understood ought about abstraction, then you'd know that one abstraction layer can use another. They are different things, but of the same domain/context/problem space. And please don't attribute to me your delusional ramblings. >>> After all this is what makes them TWO different desktops, instead of a >>> single project. >> >> Linux is a multi user system. If gnome and kde can't live together then >> we're stuffed. > > Multi user yeah: if two uses log-on on the system and one uses KDE and > the others uses Gnome the settings of one won't mess with that of the > other. Thats what multiuser means. Oh dear! Limited knowledge or limited imagination? > What you want is interoperability and integration between two different > applications. And thats up to the developers of each application. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, do you? >> You can't just wave your arms and say this issue is inherent in having >> both available. Where the heck do you stop with that line of reasoning? > > So, tell me whats the problem is then. If its not inherent to using two > different apps, that use two different architectures, than I don't > really know what can be :) Problem is described above. You seemed to have grasped it earlier. Sorry you can no longer grasp the issue. > What you are trying to do is more or less tha same sa saying: I want my > bookmarks on Firefox to appear in Konqueror automagically, and > vice-versa. You truly have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, do you? Never mind, all is not lost, a career in politics awaits. > Hope i made myself clear. Oh, crystal! -- Best, Marc From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Mon May 4 16:54:24 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:54:24 -0300 Subject: Switching off all ound notifications In-Reply-To: References: <200904301810.44284.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200904301908.41247.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4c6e034d0905040433w688b69c0n69975062a3ae7828@mail.gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040747n3086d52dgc90d3bd27cd1fca9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905040954w5f9bd3ecv773e51e8bd82ed1f@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 13:02, marc wrote: > Antonio Augusto (Mancha) said: > >> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 09:33, marc wrote: >>> Antonio Augusto (Mancha) said: >>> >>>> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 04:30, marc wrote: >>>>> Clay Weber said: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:26:48 pm marc wrote: >>>>>>> Clay Weber said: >>>>>>> > On Thursday 30 April 2009 6:06:00 pm marc wrote: >>>>>>> >> It used to be possible to switch off all sound notifications in >>>>>>> >> a single click. I can't find where to do this now. Anyone know? >>>>>>> >> Thanks. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Try System Settings / Notifications / Player Settings and check >>>>>>> > "no audio output" >>>>>>> > That , um, sounds like that is what you are looking for >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ah, I thought that was for all audio, not just notifications. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, it doesn't work for gnome apps (in Kubuntu), which >>>>>>> continue peeping and pinging and burbling every time you hit a >>>>>>> button. And, of course, the apps themselves don't have their own >>>>>>> audio controls; I know not why, I really don't. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately, you will probably have to go into gnome's preferences >>>>>> and disable it there, too. >>>>>> >>>>>> You are more or less running two separate desktop environments that >>>>>> don't use the same settings. There are some standards, such as menus >>>>>> and similar, but once you open a gnome app, it will look for gnome >>>>>> settings. KDE's settings aren't used there (and vice-versa). >>>>> >>>>> Yup, but I really thin they should be unified in this case. As I >>>>> implied, this whole "new" area hasn't been thought through at all. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> This is no easy feat IMHO, since, for starts Gnome and KDE use two >>>> completly different sound architecture. KDE4 uses Phonon and Gnome is >>>> using Pulseaudio, so no, in the short term, I can't see this changing. >>> >>> Nah, phonon can use pulse audio. They are two different things. >> >> So you just demonstrated my point :) > > No I didn't. > >> They are two different things, so how come you want them to behave as >> one? > > Try some education before you start slinging arrows. > > Phonon is a high-level API. Look it up. Pulse is a broader API and an > audio engine. > >  $ ps -e > > Look ma, a process! > > If you understood ought about abstraction, then you'd know that one > abstraction layer can use another. They are different things, but of the > same domain/context/problem space. > > And please don't attribute to me your delusional ramblings. > LOL! So... Phonon is a high-level API, Pulse is a audio engine. Phonon can use pulse. So, if I mute Phonon am I muting Pulse? ;) From dave6502 at googlemail.com Mon May 4 16:55:15 2009 From: dave6502 at googlemail.com (dave selby) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:55:15 +0100 Subject: monitor backlight won't turn off, wrote a daemon to force it on / off In-Reply-To: <200905041140.40035.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200905041140.40035.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: 2009/5/4 Bruce Marshall : > On Monday 04 May 2009, dave selby wrote: >> It needs to be run as root, I start it by adding >> >> @reboot /usr/local/bin/backlight_daemon.py >> >> to my roots crontab. Its easier than setting up a /etc/init.d/... >> >> Anyhow it solved my problem and I wanted to share it with you guys, > > I just use this in my crontab: > > 3 * * * * /usr/bin/xset -display :0 dpms 1200,0,0 Cool, looks like I used a sledgehammer to crack a nut - which for me is just about right ! I will make a note of the above but the daemon is working AOK for now so will leave well alone. Meantime I have an ATI driver issue I have to post, Cheers Dave From michael at weblore.com Mon May 4 17:04:15 2009 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:04:15 -0500 Subject: Dcop - getting background image (Jaunty) Message-ID: <200905041204.15483.michael@weblore.com> Under KDE 3, it was easy to determine what image in a slideshow was current by the command dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface currentWallpaper This doesn't work under KDE4 and Jaunty - I'm guessing because kdesktop has been replaced by plasma. This brings up two questions: First, does anyone know the command that would replace the old one? Second - and more important - I've been searching for some documentation on this type of change so I can fix things without having to constantly ask. Could you point me at some relevant documentation? Thanks in advance ---Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tuxebi at gmx.de Mon May 4 17:04:14 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 19:04:14 +0200 Subject: jaunty: no BBC sound In-Reply-To: <49FF00E7.8030101@gmail.com> References: <49FF00E7.8030101@gmail.com> Message-ID: D. R. Evans wrote: > In intrepid I could listen to BBC radio stations just fine. In jaunty I get > no sound at all from them. > > I can hear notifications fine. Also, amarok works. But when I try to play a > stream from the BBC (e.g., > http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/realmedia/sport_live/sportlive_slot4.ram) all I > get is silence. > > I've tried this in FF and in Konqueror; both behave the same way. The > player window strongly suggests that the audio protocol is OK -- I appear > to be receiving the stream properly; it's just not playing. > works great here on jaunty kubuntu (32bit) Firefox. Do you happen to have the Windows Media Player Plugin installed? Eberhard From dave6502 at googlemail.com Mon May 4 17:06:48 2009 From: dave6502 at googlemail.com (dave selby) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:06:48 +0100 Subject: System settings > Desktop > Enable desktop effects causes fglrx to cycle Message-ID: I have a problem that is driving me slightly crazy ... I have a Asus ATI Radeon HD 3650 dual head on my wifes machine running the fglrx driver. It works OK, if a little hesitant. glx gears gives 4900 fps, 'world of goo' runs smoothly ... The problem comes when I enable ... System settings > Desktop > Enable desktop effects. When I do the screen freezes, goes black, flashes parts of the desktop and cycles like this for approx 30 seconds then returns with 'Enable desktop effects' unticked. Looking at /var/log/Xorg.o.log I get continuous repeating of (II) fglrx(0): EDID vendor "SAM", prod id 997 (II) fglrx(0): Using EDID range info for horizontal sync (II) fglrx(0): Using EDID range info for vertical refresh (II) fglrx(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x0.0 119.00 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync (64.7 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 492 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 30.24 640 704 768 864 480 483 486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "832x624"x0.0 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1152x864"x0.0 108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x0.0 119.00 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync (64.7 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 108.00 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1280x960"x0.0 108.00 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1152x864"x0.0 108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) Which looks to me like the driver is repeatedly probing the display to see what resolution it can manage. My xorg.conf is ... # xorg.conf.failsafe (X.Org X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page. # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "aticonfig Layout" Screen 0 "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" 0 0 EndSection Section "Files" EndSection Section "Module" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" Option "DontZap" "False" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0" Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver" Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor" Option "DPMS" "true" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]-0" Driver "fglrx" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" Device "aticonfig-Device[0]-0" Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Any ideas anyone ? Cheers Dave -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From guethling at googlemail.com Mon May 4 17:20:07 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:20:07 -0400 Subject: Can anybody confirm this bug Message-ID: <8abf83c20905041020u790237c4pd94522fb0cb24dba@mail.gmail.com> Hello list, I just filed this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/371732 Can anybody help to confirm it? Thanks Sascha From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon May 4 17:57:10 2009 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 11:57:10 -0600 Subject: jaunty: no BBC sound In-Reply-To: References: <49FF00E7.8030101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FF2C76.9040108@gmail.com> Eberhard Roloff said the following at 05/04/2009 11:04 AM : > D. R. Evans wrote: >> In intrepid I could listen to BBC radio stations just fine. In jaunty I get >> no sound at all from them. >> >> I can hear notifications fine. Also, amarok works. But when I try to play a >> stream from the BBC (e.g., >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/realmedia/sport_live/sportlive_slot4.ram) all I >> get is silence. >> >> I've tried this in FF and in Konqueror; both behave the same way. The >> player window strongly suggests that the audio protocol is OK -- I appear >> to be receiving the stream properly; it's just not playing. >> > works great here on jaunty kubuntu (32bit) Firefox. Do you happen to > have the Windows Media Player Plugin installed? Hmm... 1. Why would I need the windows media player plugin to listen to a Real stream? 2. Which package contains that plugin (I couldn't find it)? I'll gladly try it (if it's not installed already; I haven't installed/uninstalled any different plugins than I had in intrepid; maybe I already have it installed) Doc PS FWIW, I'm running 64-bit. That may or may not make a difference (usually I'm confident that it doesn't, but browser plugins seem to be the one place where it often seems to matter). -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From fatgerman at ntlworld.com Mon May 4 18:20:32 2009 From: fatgerman at ntlworld.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 19:20:32 +0100 Subject: jaunty: no BBC sound In-Reply-To: <49FF00E7.8030101@gmail.com> References: <49FF00E7.8030101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905041920.32301.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> On Monday 04 May 2009 15:51:19 D. R. Evans wrote: > In intrepid I could listen to BBC radio stations just fine. In jaunty I get > no sound at all from them. > > I can hear notifications fine. Also, amarok works. But when I try to play a > stream from the BBC (e.g., > http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/realmedia/sport_live/sportlive_slot4.ram) all I > get is silence. > > I've tried this in FF and in Konqueror; both behave the same way. The > player window strongly suggests that the audio protocol is OK -- I appear > to be receiving the stream properly; it's just not playing. > > I hate being forced to fire up a Windows computer just for this purpose; > does anyone have any idea why my jaunty installation might be failing when > intrepid was fine? > > Doc > For me, what's proven to be long-term reliable is to make sure I have the Flash plugin installed (so that iPlayer doesn't moan at me) and then install mozilla-mplayer and w64codecs (from medibuntu), which handles real and wma streaming (BBC use both but will still complain if you don't have real installed). This has been working for me in Firefox reliably for a while. The Flash/real plugins seem to have changed a little in Jaunty. If you've upgraded from Intrepid, make sure to remove flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound if it hasn't already been removed. In Jaunty you can make sure the flash plugin is installed correctly by installing flashplugin-installer. The alternative, of installing a genuine RealPlayer, is really only for the desperate. Mark From myriam at ubuntu.com Mon May 4 18:33:54 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:33:54 +0200 Subject: Dcop - getting background image (Jaunty) In-Reply-To: <200905041204.15483.michael@weblore.com> References: <200905041204.15483.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 19:04, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > Under KDE 3, it was easy to determine what image in a slideshow was current > by the command > > dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface currentWallpaper > > This doesn't work under KDE4 and Jaunty - Well, no, it can't, as there is no more DCOP. Instead you can use DBUS. See here for more information: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/D-Bus/Accessing_Interfaces http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/D-Bus/Intermediate_D-Bus and so on. Having a look at kde.org is allways a good idea when it comes to KDE IMHO. Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From j_e_n_pub at yahoo.dk Mon May 4 18:33:30 2009 From: j_e_n_pub at yahoo.dk (Johnny Ernst Nielsen) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:33:30 +0200 Subject: Dcop - getting background image (Jaunty) In-Reply-To: <200905041204.15483.michael@weblore.com> References: <200905041204.15483.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200905042033.30461.j_e_n_pub@yahoo.dk> mandag den 4. Maj 2009 kvad Michael Satterwhite: > Under KDE 3, it was easy to determine what image in a slideshow was > current by the command > > dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface currentWallpaper > > This doesn't work under KDE4 and Jaunty - I'm guessing because > kdesktop has been replaced by plasma. This brings up two questions: > First, does anyone know the command that would replace the old one? > > Second - and more important - I've been searching for some > documentation on this type of change so I can fix things without > having to constantly ask. Could you point me at some relevant > documentation? > > Thanks in advance > ---Michael Greetings Michael, dcop has been replaced by dbus. On the command line the qdbus command is the equivalent to the dcop command. I think that freedesktop.org may be the place to find documentation on dbus. That's all I know for now. Best regards :o) Johnny :o) From tuxebi at gmx.de Mon May 4 18:40:36 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 20:40:36 +0200 Subject: jaunty: no BBC sound In-Reply-To: <49FF2C76.9040108@gmail.com> References: <49FF00E7.8030101@gmail.com> <49FF2C76.9040108@gmail.com> Message-ID: D. R. Evans wrote: > > 1. Why would I need the windows media player plugin to listen to a Real stream? Well, because my firefox describes this plugin as follows: Gecko Media Player 0.9.4 Video Player Plug-in for Quicktime, _RealPlayer_ and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer.... But, honestl<, I do not know which plug-in plays BBBc, it just plays... > > 2. Which package contains that plugin (I couldn't find it)? I'll gladly try > it (if it's not installed already; I haven't installed/uninstalled any > different plugins than I had in intrepid; maybe I already have it installed) This is easy to find out just have a look at your firefox addons. > > Doc > > PS FWIW, I'm running 64-bit. That may or may not make a difference (usually > I'm confident that it doesn't, but browser plugins seem to be the one place > where it often seems to matter). As I am using 32bit, maybe other 64-bit people can confirm that your link works or not? Eberhard From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Mon May 4 18:48:02 2009 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:48:02 -0400 Subject: Keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <200905031417.43386.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <200905031623.47807.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: <200905041448.02936.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> OK, I give up and am ready to do a complete reinstall. How do I run the install to have a system that uses the French language, and a Brazil-Portuguese keyboard ? Cheers, Ron. -- It takes a smart husband to have the last word and not use it. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From jonorland at gmail.com Mon May 4 18:59:40 2009 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:59:40 +0200 Subject: Can anybody confirm this bug In-Reply-To: <8abf83c20905041020u790237c4pd94522fb0cb24dba@mail.gmail.com> References: <8abf83c20905041020u790237c4pd94522fb0cb24dba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Sascha Güthling wrote: > Hello list, > > I just filed this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/371732 > > Can anybody help to confirm it? > > Thanks > Sascha I can verify that I also get that or a very similar error when I resume from hibernate or suspend to ram. / Jonas From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Mon May 4 19:15:27 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:15:27 -0300 Subject: Keyboard In-Reply-To: <200905041448.02936.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> References: <200905031417.43386.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <200905031623.47807.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <200905041448.02936.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905041215s372fc6c9rce8c5c27e8f39afa@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 15:48, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > OK, I give up and am ready to do a complete reinstall. > > How do I run the install to have a system that uses the French language, and a > Brazil-Portuguese keyboard ? > > Cheers, > Renaud, Before reinstalling, try this: As root run dpkg-reconfigure console-setup It will ask which keyboard layout you want to use, select brazilian ABNT2 (if this is the keyboard you have). Hope this helps From guethling at googlemail.com Mon May 4 19:17:36 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:17:36 -0400 Subject: jaunty: no BBC sound In-Reply-To: References: <49FF00E7.8030101@gmail.com> <49FF2C76.9040108@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8abf83c20905041217p470cc430q10e74dfa5b6bd277@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > D. R. Evans wrote: > >> >> 1. Why would I need the windows media player plugin to listen to a Real stream? > > Well, because my firefox describes this plugin as follows: > Gecko Media Player 0.9.4 Video Player Plug-in for Quicktime, > _RealPlayer_ and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer.... > But, honestl<, I do not know which plug-in plays BBBc, it just plays... >> >> 2. Which package contains that plugin (I couldn't find it)? I'll gladly try >> it (if it's not installed already; I haven't installed/uninstalled any >> different plugins than I had in intrepid; maybe I already have it installed) > This is easy to find out just have a look at your firefox addons. > >> >>   Doc >> >> PS FWIW, I'm running 64-bit. That may or may not make a difference (usually >> I'm confident that it doesn't, but browser plugins seem to be the one place >> where it often seems to matter). > > As I am using 32bit, maybe other 64-bit people can confirm that your > link works or not? > > Eberhard > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > 64bit Kubuntu here doesn't work either. I had helix-player installed together with mozilla-helix-player. It didn't work. Mozilla-mplayer wants to install 26 other packages as dependencies!?! Why??? I only want the plugin, not the whole player. I refuse! Cheers Sascha From jonorland at gmail.com Mon May 4 19:40:03 2009 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:40:03 +0200 Subject: twinview and wallpaper In-Reply-To: <200905041541.16873.alain.muls@telenet.be> References: <200905041541.16873.alain.muls@telenet.be> Message-ID: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Alain Muls wrote: > Hi > > Using Kubuntu 0.04 I retried the twinview and it works using the nvidea settings > program. My wallpaper is only visible on the main screen. How can you have the > wallpaper (perhaps another one) on the second screen. At this moment it is the > (ugly :-)) kubuntu background. > > Tx/Alain Right click on the desktop on that monitor and choose Appearance settings and change the settings for wallpaper. / Jonas From claydoh at midmaine.com Mon May 4 19:40:14 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (claydoh at midmaine.com) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:40:14 -0400 Subject: Switching off all ound notifications Message-ID: <380-22009514194014852@M2W042.mail2web.com> OK, Marc and Antonio: both of you way off the mark, and uselessly trading barbs. Please stop this! The real crux of this is that *KDE's* *notification* settings are not controlled by *Gnome*, and vice versa. This has NOTHING to do with sound cards, API's, and abstraction layers. Clay Weber -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon May 4 20:10:14 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:10:14 -0400 Subject: Jaunty Musings In-Reply-To: <49FB44D5.1080509@comcast.net> References: <49FB44D5.1080509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200905041610.14282.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Friday 01 May 2009 02:52:05 pm Ian L. Target wrote: > Amichai Rotman wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I know I already wrote to the Kubuntu list, but I was not answered - > > so I am trying the Ubuntu list too... > > > > I recently upgraded from Kubuntu 8.04 to Kubuntu 9.04 using the online > > method. > > > > I was actually surprised to see how smoothly the upgrade process was. > > I was pretty sure it will break my system and I'd have to re-install > > from scratch... > > > > I am trying to get used to the new concepts introduced in KDE 4.2.2, > > I also am surprised at the ease of my upgrade. I went from 8.04 to 9.04 > no problem. > > However, my desktop is rather slow, not to mention I just don't like the > looks of it. Are there any alternatives to using the plasma-type > stuff? I don't think my older computer can handle of that graphics > stuff. Where do you go to change the the settings? And once I get > there, can anyone suggest a simpler (quicker, less CPU intensive) > desktop? The more plain and simple, the better. > > Ian Dear Ian, I am not so experienced, however, if I understand your desire, it may be as simple as removing the 'Kmenu' widget that shows the new method of finding applications and installing from the widget menu, by clicking on the small acorn and opening add widgets, then highlight the alternate application launcher widget that says Traditional menu based application launcher on it. It doesn't provide additional speed, so if that is your motivator, you might still want to change OS's. Xubuntu is a lean OS, I am told. It doesn't require more than 256mb of ram, is fast and works pretty good, from what I have been told. Nonetheless, if you haven't given the new desktop a real chance, I believe that is a mistake. I have had to use the new OS because of my hardware, and have been using it for a couple of months. After familiarizing myself with the new system, I no longer missed my earlier Kubuntu OS and Desktop. Some of the widgets are so useful, you will be unwilling to give them up, and the new system seems to be better too, once you have become used to it. As far as using up memory, I don't know the difference. One of the reasons I had to use Jaunty was due to the amount of memory I have, 8gb. So memory has not been a problem for me, but I just love the new OS for ease of use. It is far superior to the older versions of KDE, once you become used to it. If you multi-task, open a dozen applications, and remember how it used to be to find the application you wanted to change to using the prior KDE. Then make sure you have installed the Desktop Effect called 'Present Windows' under 'Windows Management'. With 10 or 20 applications open, move your cursor to the upper left hand corner of the desktop and watch all 20 become visible on the desktop, shrunk in size so that they do not overlap, then click on the application of choice and watch it come to the surface. You will just love that feature of the plazmoids. You may write me on my personal address if you want to talk about the application in detail, where it might not be appropriate using the List; I will be happy to share with you how to take advantage of the new features. In a short period of time, I would be surprised if you did not adjust and prefer the new system of use. Cordially, Steven From eagles051387 at gmail.com Mon May 4 20:11:55 2009 From: eagles051387 at gmail.com (Jonathan Aquilina) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:11:55 +0200 Subject: wubi installation woes on vista 64bit Message-ID: i have uninstalled the rc of vista sp2 hoping it would remedy the situation but it didnt still get the error. here is a pastbin of the log. this issue is really getting me frustrated. http://pastebin.com/m67a5e9e3 -- Jonathan Aquilina -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rayburke30 at gmail.com Mon May 4 20:25:24 2009 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 06:25:24 +1000 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: References: <200905032340.56531.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <49FE33A3.7070302@comcast.net> Message-ID: Myriam, OK will check in gmail and sent the previous message thru gmail so only html is little icon start of message, do you mean this???????? ray On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 06:03, ray burke wrote: > >> [?]Lisi, >> >> Yes at that time I wanted to check out how to use the gmail for my Kubuntu >> forums, >> but now that I will use only the gmail for this I are having trouble to >> stop the k forum >> also showing still within my hotmail emails, that is why I am >> asking??????? >> > > You obviously still send HTML mail, could you please deactivate this? > > Also, you are not subscribed anymore with your hotmail account, so if you > still get those it's likely you have a forwarding set to that address. Check > in the settings -> accounts in Google mail on how you have configured your > settings. > > > Regards, Myriam. > -- > Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: > http://www.fsfe.org > Please don't send me proprietary file formats, > use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 35C.png Type: image/png Size: 593 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon May 4 20:25:33 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:25:33 -0400 Subject: Sluggish bootup. In-Reply-To: References: <200904281152.06846.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200904300117.59359.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905041625.33504.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Thursday 30 April 2009 09:29:20 am Frans wrote: > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:17:59 -0400, Steven Vollom wrote: > > (Trimmed) > > > >> I had this kind of problem sometime ago, but i don't remember if this > >> was on a real machine or on a VM, and i don't really remember how i got > >> it fixed (if I got). > >> Anyways... your problem seens related to acpi. Yesterday there was a > >> upgrade for it, try upgrading it to see if this solves your issues. > >> > >> Another option you can try is passsing noacpi as a parameter to your > >> kernel. To known how to get this take a look here: > >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#Setting%20kernel% > > 20parameters > > >> any doubts ask around :) > >> > >> Cheers > > > > My box is current, however, my problems have increased. It is strange > > because I went through Jaunty alpha and beta without the problems I am > > currently experiencing. My MB has an nVidia 780a chip, I also have an > > nVidia Gforce 9600 as well as 8gb of ram. The combination of components > > is why I was required to run Jaunty in the first place. Additionally, I > > had to add to the boot an additional comment pci=nomsi, to get things to > > work properly where I did not have to add the comment at each boot. I > > don't know what happened when the Rc was released. I formatted the boot > > partition and installed the Rc fresh, and I have been having continual > > problems ever since. > > So you _reinstalled_ Ubuntu 9.04 and the problems began... > > > I am going to have to take a rest from this for a > > bit and use the old box for a while. I need to get a fresh start on the > > problem; it is starting to cause too much pressure. Both Kontact and > > Kedit are crashing several times a day now too, to add to the already > > bug filled experience. None of these things happened in Alpha or Beta. > > It is hard to understand what changed so much with the Rc. Thanks for > > the help. I am going to leave the list until I can get a quiet spirit > > again. (That is after I answer a couple hundred emails.) > > > > Steven > > OK, try this (tested on Ubuntu 8.04): > > 1. Boot your computer and wait till the list of kernels comes up. > 2. press 'e' > 3. With the up and down arrow keys select the line beginning with 'kernel' > 4. press 'e' > 5. press the spacebar and then type your boot parameter: pci=nomsi > 6. press 'Esc' > 6. press 'b' > > This is also explained on screen. > > Let the list know how it goes :-) > > -Frans Thanks for the advice, I have installed pci=nomsi in the appropriate places and it did not solve the problem. Nonetheless, I have not been having the same troubles for a couple of days and am waiting for a symptom to show again, before I change anything again. I edited grubb to make the changes. they seem to work OK now. Steven From arnaud.bourree at gmail.com Mon May 4 20:26:18 2009 From: arnaud.bourree at gmail.com (Arnaud bourree) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:26:18 +0200 Subject: Keyboard In-Reply-To: <4c6e034d0905041215s372fc6c9rce8c5c27e8f39afa@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905031417.43386.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <200905031623.47807.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <200905041448.02936.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <4c6e034d0905041215s372fc6c9rce8c5c27e8f39afa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Last week, I played with French/Arabic keyboard. I used "System Setting" and select "Region & Languages". In "Pays & Languages", "Local" tab, I select hyper-link "Update..." and select French or Arabic system menu I want to activate. In "Keyboard layout", "Layout" tab, I select radio button "Enable keyboard layout" and then in "Avaylable layout" I select "France fr" and "Arabic ara" And then apply. After that I can select keyboard layout from systray depends if I want to write Latin or Arabic letters. 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Check >> in the settings -> accounts in Google mail on how you have configured your >> settings. >> >> >> Regards, Myriam. >> -- >> Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: >> http://www.fsfe.org >> Please don't send me proprietary file formats, >> use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 35C.png Type: image/png Size: 593 bytes Desc: not available URL: From arnaud.bourree at gmail.com Mon May 4 20:37:55 2009 From: arnaud.bourree at gmail.com (Arnaud bourree) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:37:55 +0200 Subject: Keyboard In-Reply-To: References: <200905031417.43386.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <200905031623.47807.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <200905041448.02936.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <4c6e034d0905041215s372fc6c9rce8c5c27e8f39afa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry, for system language, used "Select sytem language" button in "Local" tab and not "Update..." hyper link :-$ Arnaud 2009/5/4 Arnaud bourree > > Last week, I played with French/Arabic keyboard. > I used "System Setting" and select "Region & Languages". > In "Pays & Languages", "Local" tab, I select hyper-link "Update..." and select French or Arabic system menu I want to activate. > In "Keyboard layout", "Layout" tab, I select radio button "Enable keyboard layout" and then in "Avaylable layout" I select "France fr" and "Arabic ara" > And then apply. > After that I can select keyboard layout from systray depends if I want to write Latin or Arabic letters. > > I hope that can help you > > Arnaud. > > 2009/5/4 Antonio Augusto (Mancha) >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 15:48, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI >> wrote: >> > OK, I give up and am ready to do a complete reinstall. >> > >> > How do I run the install to have a system that uses the French language, and a >> > Brazil-Portuguese keyboard ? >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> >> Renaud, >> >> Before reinstalling, try this: >> As root run dpkg-reconfigure console-setup >> It will ask which keyboard layout you want to use, select brazilian >> ABNT2 (if this is the keyboard you have). >> >> Hope this helps >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From guethling at googlemail.com Mon May 4 20:42:38 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 16:42:38 -0400 Subject: wubi installation woes on vista 64bit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8abf83c20905041342w6e3362e6sc971f97be950b9de@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > i have uninstalled the rc of vista sp2 hoping it would remedy the situation > but it didnt still get the error. here is a pastbin of the log.  this issue > is really getting me frustrated. > http://pastebin.com/m67a5e9e3 > > -- > Jonathan Aquilina > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Hey Jonathan, the end of the logfile looks like there is something wrong with the CD. It says it can't find the ISO (in this case the system ISO that is going to be installed) which means it can't copy the system to the hard drive. Maybe you can download and burn the CD again and then try to install again. (In case you didn't try that already) Sascha From myriam at ubuntu.com Mon May 4 20:51:49 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:51:49 +0200 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: References: <200905032340.56531.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <49FE33A3.7070302@comcast.net> Message-ID: Hi Ray, On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 22:30, ray burke wrote: > > > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:25 AM, ray burke wrote: >> >> Myriam, >> >> OK will check in gmail and sent the previous message thru gmail so only html is little icon >> start of message, do you mean this???????? I don't exactly know which "little icon" you mean, but you are still sending HTML. When you open the mail editor in Gmail, please choose "Plain Text" right on top of the editor window. It shows up in the middle, just on the left of the "Check Spelling" option. As long as you can see text formatting options like bold, underlined, etc., you are in HTML mode. If you reply to a message sent in plain text, your editor should open in plain text as well, so please avoid selecting the "Rich formatting" option on the top left... Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon May 4 21:00:03 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:00:03 -0400 Subject: codec for .wmv with audio v3 In-Reply-To: <200905020844.59456.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <200905012205.24519.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905020844.59456.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <200905041700.03922.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> (Trimmed) > > I download a ton of wmv files...and honestly, I have never had one without > sound. I can't seem to figure out how to loop through all of the wmv files > in a dir and get the audio info on it...mplayer -identify in a for loop > wouldn't play nice and xine has no listed option...Anyone know of a method > in a for loop? I have never had trouble playing a .wmv, unless it was a movie download, then they never seem to work. It is disappointing, because it appears like a new method of encrypting the .wmv's when they are movies. If you are having trouble with movies, then it is the same with me. If you are having not having trouble with other .wmv's then there is a difference in the files, when they are movies, I suspect. In any event, it is annoying, so I just don't download .wmv's when they are movie files. As movies, I have never been able to play them. All other times, they work fine. If you think you understand what I said, then reply and tell me if the ones that don't work for you are movie files. If they are, I think there is something uniquely different about movie.wmv's. I too am interested if you want to consider the chat. Steven From rayburke30 at gmail.com Mon May 4 21:00:36 2009 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 07:00:36 +1000 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: References: <200905032340.56531.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <49FE33A3.7070302@comcast.net> Message-ID: Myriam, I dont see that, so can you send me a pic of it please,????????? or do mean just click the plain text tab ray On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Ray, > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 22:30, ray burke wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:25 AM, ray burke wrote: > >> > >> Myriam, > >> > >> OK will check in gmail and sent the previous message thru gmail so only > html is little icon > >> start of message, do you mean this???????? > > I don't exactly know which "little icon" you mean, but you are still > sending HTML. When you open the mail editor in Gmail, please choose > "Plain Text" right on top of the editor window. 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All of that would be very interesting ... if I was writing a routine in C++. While I may be forced into that by this change, the advantage of dcop is that it was fully accessible from a bash script. Nevertheless, this does give me a direction to look. So far, though, I haven't been incredibly impressed with KDE 4. I don't think its time has come yet. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Evans) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 16:00:00 -0600 Subject: jaunty: no BBC sound In-Reply-To: <8abf83c20905041217p470cc430q10e74dfa5b6bd277@mail.gmail.com> References: <49FF00E7.8030101@gmail.com> <49FF2C76.9040108@gmail.com> <8abf83c20905041217p470cc430q10e74dfa5b6bd277@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FF6560.5080209@gmail.com> Sascha Güthling said the following at 05/04/2009 01:17 PM : > 64bit Kubuntu here doesn't work either. I had helix-player installed > together with mozilla-helix-player. It didn't work. Mozilla-mplayer > wants to install 26 other packages as dependencies!?! Why??? I only > want the plugin, not the whole player. I refuse! > I have mozilla-mplayer installed. In fact, that's what FF and Konq both try to use. And it worked in intrepid. But it sure don't work (here) in jaunty. My Windows-loving friends will love it when they ask (as they will) whether the Beeb works OK on jaunty :-( Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From fatgerman at ntlworld.com Mon May 4 22:18:22 2009 From: fatgerman at ntlworld.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:18:22 +0100 Subject: jaunty: no BBC sound In-Reply-To: <8abf83c20905041217p470cc430q10e74dfa5b6bd277@mail.gmail.com> References: <49FF00E7.8030101@gmail.com> <8abf83c20905041217p470cc430q10e74dfa5b6bd277@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905042318.22413.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> On Monday 04 May 2009 20:17:36 Sascha Güthling wrote: > > 64bit Kubuntu here doesn't work either. I had helix-player installed > together with mozilla-helix-player. It didn't work. Helix Player is the open-source version of RealPlayer. As it is open source it does not support the recent proprietary Real codecs because Real want to protect their IP. The BBC use the recent codecs. Hence HelixPlayer won't work. IMO, Real only pay lip-service to the idea of open source, and HelixPlayer isn't very useful. > Mozilla-mplayer > wants to install 26 other packages as dependencies!?! Why??? Because the plugin requires the player. The plugin doesn't do anything except pipe a stream into mplayer. It's an efficient re-use of code resulting in a neater installation. (Although it doesn't really need to bring in the mplayer GUI, I'll grant you that one. But you could remove it if you wanted to. Give the poor packagers a break, it's a tough job.. ;) ). > I only > want the plugin, not the whole player. I refuse! Calm down :) The plugin on its own is useless, it needs the player as well. FWIW, the link in Doc's original email plays for me, on 64-bit Jaunty, using the mozilla-mplayer plugin. I also have w64codecs from medibuntu, you will probably need these too. If it's not working for you, you'll need to try typing about:plugins into Firefox and see if any other plugin has registered itself for Real or WMA streams, and remove it. I have not yet found a website that doesn't work with the combination of Flash and mplayer. Cheers, Mark > > Cheers > Sascha > From lisi.reisz at gmail.com Mon May 4 22:43:11 2009 From: lisi.reisz at gmail.com (Lisi Reisz) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:43:11 +0100 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905042343.11962.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> On Monday 04 May 2009 22:00:36 ray burke wrote: > or do mean just click the plain text tab Yes, I would imagine that she does. Lisi From rayburke30 at gmail.com Mon May 4 22:48:47 2009 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 08:48:47 +1000 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: <200905042343.11962.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> References: <200905042343.11962.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> Message-ID: lisi, what you mean "Yes, I would imagine that she does."?????????? ray On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 04 May 2009 22:00:36 ray burke wrote: > > or do mean just click the plain text tab > > Yes, I would imagine that she does. > > Lisi > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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See: [Jaunty] Sound in GTK apps can't be disabled under KDE https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/343677 Temp fix is to remove ubuntu-sounds. -- Best, Marc From eagles051387 at gmail.com Tue May 5 08:21:55 2009 From: eagles051387 at gmail.com (Jonathan Aquilina) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 10:21:55 +0200 Subject: wubi installation woes on vista 64bit Message-ID: sarah i already tried that. i had tried installing it with the beta of jaunty thinking that mighta been the issue i downloaded the released iso and burned it. :( is it an issue with permissions in vista. and also the funny thing is if its a problem with what i burned i wouldnt be able to run wubi would i? -- Jonathan Aquilina From gmane at auxbuss.com Tue May 5 08:20:04 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 08:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Can anybody confirm this bug References: <8abf83c20905041020u790237c4pd94522fb0cb24dba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sascha Güthling said: > I just filed this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/371732 > > Can anybody help to confirm it? For achival purposes: HDD connection error after suspend to ram https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/371732 After a Suspend to Disk the system wakes up but is unusable. It comes up with some error messages from the notification widget, but these are following errors and not the cause of it. This is a SATA system, I don't have that problem on my IDE system. After switching to a virtual console I can't login but see the following error messages over and over again: ata1: exception Emask 0x10 Sact 0x0 Serr 0x4000000 action 0xe frozen ata1: irq_stat 0x00000040, connection status changed ata1: SError: { DevExch } ata2: exception Emask 0x10 Sact 0x0 Serr 0x4000000 action 0xe frozen ata2: irq_stat 0x00000040, connection status changed ata2: SError: { DevExch } System info: HP dv4-1120us, 4GB Ram, 250GB SATA HDD Kubuntu 9.04 64bit installed with WIBU under Windows Vista 64bit Kernel Version: 2.6.27-11-generic -- Best, Marc From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Tue May 5 09:21:03 2009 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 10:21:03 +0100 Subject: jaunty: no BBC sound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A0004FF.2000105@btinternet.com> As I am using 32bit, maybe other 64-bit people can confirm that your > link works or not? > > Eberhard > > I'm running Kubuntu 9.04 on a 64 bit AMD - I get sound and vision perfectly from BBC iPlayer using Firefox. I only have java and Xmark extensions, and only the shockwave flash 10 plugin listed in FF. I do have RealPlayer 11.01.1056(GOLD) installed, which has a multitude of plugins installed(but I've just noticed that although it opens, it gives an error if I try and play a misic file, I will investigate) brian From tuxebi at gmx.de Tue May 5 09:21:43 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:21:43 +0200 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: References: <200905042343.11962.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> Message-ID: ray burke wrote: > lisi, > > what you mean "Yes, I would imagine that she does."?????????? > it means: YES, click on the plain text tab and then see whether it helps. Eberhard From lisi.reisz at gmail.com Tue May 5 09:27:02 2009 From: lisi.reisz at gmail.com (Lisi Reisz) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 10:27:02 +0100 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: References: <200905042343.11962.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905051027.02886.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> On Monday 04 May 2009 23:48:47 ray burke wrote: > lisi, > > what you mean "Yes, I would imagine that she does."?????????? > > ray > > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 04 May 2009 22:00:36 ray burke wrote: > > > or do mean just click the plain text tab > > > > Yes, I would imagine that she does. > > > > Lisi Does she mean just click the plain text tab? Yes, I should imagine that she does (mean just click the plain text tab). I hope that that is clear now! Lisi From derek at pointerstop.ca Tue May 5 00:04:06 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 21:04:06 -0300 Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040422w3c9c8425ld15cc0e565ce5ae@mail.gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040741sb2b5766k992ec96b982dfc72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Antonio Augusto (Mancha) wrote: > Hello Myriam, > > All my ponctuations and questions here are by no means offensive or > sarcartisc. If they sound like that I'm sorry for that, and please > read them again trying to get this tone sorted out :) > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:35, Myriam Schweingruber > wrote: >> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 14:40, marc wrote: >>> Antonio Augusto (Mancha) said: >>> >>>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 01:08, Jerry Lapham wrote: >>>>> How do you change panel colors - both background and text? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> For what i know you can't change panel options. For whatever reason >>>> they had, KDE devs thought it was very smart to not allow users to >>>> customize these things. Only the theme has control on how these things >>>> look. Silly, if you ask me. >> >> That is not silly, it's due to the architecture of plasma: do you know >> that you need as much as 9 layers for a SVG icon? See? No doubt true, but it rather skips over everything necessary to actually explain _why_ you can't change anything if there's a theme applied. And otoh, maybe if you really need 9 layers, one might suspect that things are over-complicated. > > No I didn't know that. But what does the (as much as) 9 layers for a > icon has to do with the color of the panel? > >> Everybody can submit themes to kde-looks.org, BTW, so that is not in >> the sole hands of the Oxygen and Plasma devs. It just makes no sense >> for the average user to change isolated items in a theme, as it would >> break the overall picture. I can already hear the outcries like "my >> Panel is broken!!! Stupid developers!!!" from the usual suspects... You've used that argument before, but it's completely counter-linux. There are always situations where a knowledgeable user wants to change a _single_ item, and current theming prevents that. It's not what we're used to, and ime it's not what most of us want. We are Linux users because we want _control_. > > Actually, by not been able to change the panel color my overall > picture is broken :) > See, I don't use compositing, and I'm using the Oxygen theme. I've > choosen a bluish color scheme to go with my oxygen, so my window title > is blue but the panel is black. I'm not quite sure what compositing has to do with that, as I have an intel graphics driver, so I don't get a choice - there is no compositing, and my panel isn't black (it's transparent). > > This doesn't means that the color scheme I've choose for Oxygen is > broken, this means that I, as the user, have to endure whatever the > Oxygen designer thought was the best combination he could come with. > And this applies not only to Oxygen but to ANY theme I can get my > hands on. Actually, I think _technically_ it doesn't - but in practice perhaps all existing themes are like that. >> Please, people, all this can be found in the various pages through >> Google, as well as on the kde.org websites. So instead of accusing >> developers of silliness and throwing out wild guesses about the whys >> and hows, a bit of reading and documenting would not hurt... Can ways to override the "silliness" be found? If not, this is as good a place to gripe as anywhere. Of course, if you actually want action, you're going to have to talk to developers, and you won't find them here - but if you just want to vent, we've had far less worthwhile vents here! >> Also, unlike the proprietary software scene where users are kept in >> ignorance deliberately, in the Linux world there is everything >> available, but of course one has to read and learn a little.. Oh, please. If you really want people to read and learn, maybe suggesting where exactly they can do that rather than "google" would be more helpful than just accusing people of violating the COC. > >> PS. What about reading the CoC every once in a while before posting? That's insulting, and in itself a clear violation of the COC. Nothing Antonio said was at all disrespectful - he thinks a design decision was "silly". He may be right, he may be wrong, but he's entitled to his opinion. -- derek From derek at pointerstop.ca Tue May 5 00:11:59 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 21:11:59 -0300 Subject: Can anybody confirm this bug References: <8abf83c20905041020u790237c4pd94522fb0cb24dba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sascha Güthling wrote: > I just filed this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/371732 > > Can anybody help to confirm it? This is the second time I've seen a post like this in a week. Could people please at least give a hint what the bug's about when they post a question like this? When I'm at work, I'll just click on something like this, no problem, but at home my Internet is so chancy that it just isn't worth the effort unless I know it's something I know I use. -- derek From derek at pointerstop.ca Tue May 5 00:06:54 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 21:06:54 -0300 Subject: Switching off all ound notifications References: <200904301810.44284.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200904301908.41247.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4c6e034d0905040433w688b69c0n69975062a3ae7828@mail.gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040747n3086d52dgc90d3bd27cd1fca9@mail.gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040954w5f9bd3ecv773e51e8bd82ed1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Antonio Augusto (Mancha) wrote: > So... Phonon is a high-level API, Pulse is a audio engine. Phonon can use > pulse. So, if I mute Phonon am I muting Pulse? ;) Is there a prize? The answer is No, but I can't see how it has anything to do with the discussion. -- derek From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Tue May 5 12:45:44 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:45:44 -0300 Subject: Switching off all ound notifications In-Reply-To: References: <200904301908.41247.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4c6e034d0905040433w688b69c0n69975062a3ae7828@mail.gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040747n3086d52dgc90d3bd27cd1fca9@mail.gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040954w5f9bd3ecv773e51e8bd82ed1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905050545w2206681di78d9c8909c5749f3@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 21:06, Derek Broughton wrote: > Antonio Augusto (Mancha) wrote: > >> So... Phonon is a high-level API, Pulse is a audio engine. Phonon can use >> pulse. So, if I mute Phonon am I muting Pulse? ;) > > Is there a prize?  The answer is No, but I can't see how it has anything to > do with the discussion. > -- > derek Lol! No prizes for you Derek! But never mind the question, I'm done with that :) Sorry for the noise people! Cheers From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue May 5 14:13:51 2009 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 08:13:51 -0600 Subject: jaunty: no BBC sound In-Reply-To: <4A0004FF.2000105@btinternet.com> References: <4A0004FF.2000105@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <4A00499F.7010805@gmail.com> Brian Norman Wootton said the following at 05/05/2009 03:21 AM : > As I am using 32bit, maybe other 64-bit people can confirm that your >> link works or not? >> >> Eberhard >> >> > > I'm running Kubuntu 9.04 on a 64 bit AMD - I get sound and vision > perfectly from BBC iPlayer using Firefox. I only have java and Xmark My question was not about iPlayer, though :-( Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The only way I have found so far to correctly do all this, is using 'Adobe Reader 9'. However, I would prefer to use Okular (the former 'KPDF') for such purposes as soon as the bug(s) with respect to them have been resolved. I submit 3 attachments to the bug report: * the PDF file 'Okular screenshots' (http://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=33369) * 2 examples of the forms of the Dutch Chamber of Commerce, one of them in English. Here below at this page, I share with you my vision on a certain priority rating: which problems need to be solved first, which ones can be dealt with later? Priority 1: impossibility to fill in a certain type of forms. ======================================== So far, I do not manage at all to fill in a certain type of forms. See examples below, pp. 6-7. In Adobe, it is possible to fill them in. Priority 2: impossibility to correctly save, close and reopen data of forms filled in ============================================================== Difficulties to correctly save, close and reopen a PDF document with forms already filled in. In Adobe in combination with these specific chamber of commerce forms, it is possible to save data filled in there. Priority 3: grey field surrounding the forms while filling them in ============================================== Grey fields surround the forms, when Okular is in the 'show forms' mode, needed to fill in the forms. As a matter of consequence, you cannot see exactly which field you are filling in, WHILE you are filling in. The thumbnails on the left hand side are visible, though not big enough to check such details. On the other hand, it is possible to easily and quickly change between the 'show forms' and 'hide forms' modes via a specific button right above. That's why, this problem is only nr. 3 in my priority rating - I attach more importance to the problems mentioned under 1 and 2. In Adobe, it is possible to fill in the forms, while seeing their surroundings at the same moment. Screenshot examples: see attachment "Okular screenshots' Look there at pp. 2 and 3. Respectfully yours, Bas Roufs. -- =============== Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht M. +31.6.446.835.10 T. +31.30.785.20.40 BasRoufs at gmail.com =============== From derek at pointerstop.ca Tue May 5 14:09:57 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:09:57 -0300 Subject: Can anybody confirm this bug References: <8abf83c20905041020u790237c4pd94522fb0cb24dba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: marc wrote: > Sascha Güthling said: > >> I just filed this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/371732 >> >> Can anybody help to confirm it? > > For achival purposes: > > HDD connection error after suspend to ram > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/371732 > > > After a Suspend to Disk the system wakes up but is unusable. > > ata1: exception Emask 0x10 Sact 0x0 Serr 0x4000000 action 0xe frozen > ata1: irq_stat 0x00000040, connection status changed > ata1: SError: { DevExch } > ata2: exception Emask 0x10 Sact 0x0 Serr 0x4000000 action 0xe frozen > ata2: irq_stat 0x00000040, connection status changed > ata2: SError: { DevExch } ... > System info: > HP dv4-1120us, 4GB Ram, 250GB SATA HDD > Kubuntu 9.04 64bit installed with WIBU under Windows Vista 64bit > Kernel Version: 2.6.27-11-generic OK, I can say (a) this never happens to me, and (b) you have a few significant differences from my setup anyway, but it looks familiar. I am not using wubi (and _did_ have issues with it that could be related) and I'm 32-bit. However, I got errors like this when my BIOS was in the wrong mode for my drive (AHCI? I can't recall, and I don't much feel like rebooting to check). If you have such a setting, try toggling it. btw, your first line says "suspend to ram" and your description says "Suspend to Disk" - which is it? -- derek From guethling at googlemail.com Tue May 5 16:20:54 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 12:20:54 -0400 Subject: Can anybody confirm this bug In-Reply-To: References: <8abf83c20905041020u790237c4pd94522fb0cb24dba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8abf83c20905050920u33cf316dv588ac7aad5546d36@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Derek Broughton wrote: > marc wrote: > >> Sascha Güthling said: >> >>> I just filed this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/371732 >>> >>> Can anybody help to confirm it? >> >> For achival purposes: >> >>   HDD connection error after suspend to ram >>   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/371732 >> >> >> After a Suspend to Disk the system wakes up but is unusable. >> >> ata1: exception Emask 0x10 Sact 0x0 Serr 0x4000000 action 0xe frozen >> ata1: irq_stat 0x00000040, connection status changed >> ata1: SError: { DevExch } >> ata2: exception Emask 0x10 Sact 0x0 Serr 0x4000000 action 0xe frozen >> ata2: irq_stat 0x00000040, connection status changed >> ata2: SError: { DevExch } > ... >> System info: >> HP dv4-1120us, 4GB Ram, 250GB SATA HDD >> Kubuntu 9.04 64bit installed with WIBU under Windows Vista 64bit >> Kernel Version: 2.6.27-11-generic > > OK, I can say (a) this never happens to me, and (b) you have a few > significant differences from my setup anyway, but it looks familiar. > > I am not using wubi (and _did_ have issues with it that could be related) > and I'm 32-bit. > > However, I got errors like this when my BIOS was in the wrong mode for my > drive (AHCI?  I can't recall, and I don't much feel like rebooting to > check).  If you have such a setting, try toggling it. > > btw, your first line says "suspend to ram" and your description says > "Suspend to Disk" - which is it? > -- > derek > 1st: It has to be "Suspend to Ram" thanks for finding the typo. I corrected the bug report already. 2nd: I just updated my BIOS and the problem seems to be gone. I'll test a bit more before I can really confirm that, but in two attempts the laptop woke up without disk errors. I don't have any options to change the mode of the disk in the BIOS though. Maybe they changed it without notice. Cheers Sascha From rayburke30 at gmail.com Tue May 5 20:10:47 2009 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 06:10:47 +1000 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: References: <200905042343.11962.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> Message-ID: Eberhard, OK thanks I thought that is what is meant!!!!!!!!! ray On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > ray burke wrote: > > lisi, > > > > what you mean "Yes, I would imagine that she does."?????????? > > > it means: YES, click on the plain text tab and then see whether it helps. > Eberhard > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fatgerman at ntlworld.com Tue May 5 21:36:51 2009 From: fatgerman at ntlworld.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 22:36:51 +0100 Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 In-Reply-To: References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040741sb2b5766k992ec96b982dfc72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905052236.51921.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> On Tuesday 05 May 2009 01:04:06 Derek Broughton wrote: > >> Everybody can submit themes to kde-looks.org, BTW, so that is not in > >> the sole hands of the Oxygen and Plasma devs. It just makes no sense > >> for the average user to change isolated items in a theme, as it would > >> break the overall picture. I can already hear the outcries like "my > >> Panel is broken!!! Stupid developers!!!" from the usual suspects... > > You've used that argument before, but it's completely counter-linux. There > are always situations where a knowledgeable user wants to change a _single_ > item, and current theming prevents that. It's not what we're used to, You see, this is the sort of argument that *really* annoys me as a software developer. It's that kind of thinking that has held desktop design back by years. "It's not what we're used to therefore we don't like it and we're going to moan about it". Or put another way "It's different and I don't like it". Arguments like that make progress and real innovation next to impossible. Thinking like that creates stagnation. Thinking like that creates GNOME. > and > ime it's not what most of us want. We are Linux users because we want > _control_. Please don't assume you speak for all Linux users. I'm a Linux user because I want an alternative to the MicroAppleSoft hegemony, and because I believe strongly in the open source concept. I don't care about control, I just want stuff that works. As far as I'm concerned, the KDE developers are to be congratulated on deciding to do some things in a new and interesting way. I hope they manage to ignore all the 'this is new and I don't like it' rants and carry on following their own path. Anyway, sorry, I've gone OT. FWIW I think the original poster had a valid point, but taking the argument into the "It's not what we're used to" territory was something I could not ignore. I'll shut up now. Mark From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue May 5 22:22:15 2009 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:22:15 -0600 Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 In-Reply-To: References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040422w3c9c8425ld15cc0e565ce5ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A00BC17.9080006@gmail.com> marc said the following at 05/04/2009 06:40 AM : > > Seems you can only apply "themes" now. For each widget you can choose > your own "file", but there's no help, so I've no idea what those files > are supposed to be. Yep. Some time ago I filed a bug report requesting user-accessible documentation on this very issue. I have some hope that maybe somewhere around KDE 4.5, those of us who want to customize away all the huge menus, icons and plasmoids, the grey-writing-on-grey-background and general black-is-cool paradigm will be able to do so easily. No doubt some of it can be done now, but no one could call it easy. KDE4 so far simply doesn't install a sufficient amount of accurate documentation :-( But I trust it will be there one day in the not-too-distant future. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Stupid developers!!!" from the usual >> >> suspects... >> >> You've used that argument before, but it's completely counter-linux. >> There are always situations where a knowledgeable user wants to change >> a _single_ item, and current theming prevents that. It's not what >> we're used to, > > You see, this is the sort of argument that *really* annoys me as a > software developer. It's that kind of thinking that has held desktop > design back by years. "It's not what we're used to therefore we don't > like it and we're going to moan about it". Or put another way "It's > different and I don't like it". You see, this is the sort of argument that *really*, *really* makes me raise an eyebrow as a software developer. Sometimes both eyebrows. That is, using the excuse that users claiming about the removal of features is a "fear of change". It's at best a non sequitur. > Arguments like that make progress and > real innovation next to impossible. Thinking like that creates > stagnation. No. It's a failure of developers to understand the process of making change while keeping the train running and on the tracks. Usually, it's because the developers/architects don't have the necessary skills, and/or the imagination. In this particular case, it would have been quite possible to create what has been created, but retain the ability to change the colours of various widgets. But they didn't. That's a lack of ability. Nothing is gained by throwing away good, mature code, and useful user functions. There's nothing innovative about doing this. It's counter-productive. > Thinking like that creates GNOME. Gnome has (at least these past few years) been created by control freaks: folk utterly convinced of their infallibility and understanding of what others want. Although, to be honest, I'm not even sure of that; I think they just wanted to copy Apple. Not much imagination, I guess. What do Apple call it? "Opinionated software." >> and >> ime it's not what most of us want. We are Linux users because we want >> _control_. > > Please don't assume you speak for all Linux users. I'm a Linux user > because I want an alternative to the MicroAppleSoft hegemony, and > because I believe strongly in the open source concept. I don't care > about control, I just want stuff that works. Don't we all! The OP had stuff that works, but now it doesn't. That's a genuine complaint. Certainly not a fear of change. > As far as I'm concerned, the KDE developers are to be congratulated on > deciding to do some things in a new and interesting way. I hope they > manage to ignore all the 'this is new and I don't like it' rants and > carry on following their own path. They will regardless. However, the regressions are huge and that's a concern. I'm not sure many of us would go through this again, however many years it is down the tracks. I think what they've done is okay-ish. It's not that great once you get used to it. However, it boots fast and is quite responsive. But the way they did it was atrocious, and the regressions appalling. But hey, it'll all be fixed in the next release. -- Best, Marc From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Tue May 5 22:57:39 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 19:57:39 -0300 Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 In-Reply-To: References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040741sb2b5766k992ec96b982dfc72@mail.gmail.com> <200905052236.51921.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905051557y3a8ea53dtc85fd3aabe4b6187@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 19:38, marc wrote: > Mark Greenwood said: > >> On Tuesday 05 May 2009 01:04:06 Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> As far as I'm concerned, the KDE developers are to be congratulated on >> deciding to do some things in a new and interesting way. I hope they >> manage to ignore all the 'this is new and I don't like it' rants and >> carry on following their own path. > > They will regardless. However, the regressions are huge and that's a > concern. I'm not sure many of us would go through this again, however > many years it is down the tracks. I will! :D > I think what they've done is okay-ish. It's not that great once you get > used to it. However, it boots fast and is quite responsive. But the way > they did it was atrocious, and the regressions appalling. > > But hey, it'll all be fixed in the next release. IMHO, KDE4 is still a desktop in development, that hasn't showed everything he came for. Non core developers are still trying to understand everything that under the hood, and even core apps/functionalities aren't fully ported yet. Like I said in a previous post: I hope that the KDE guys will restore the panel color functionality in future releases (like they will do with A LOT of other features). And what they did, for me, was kind of "heroic". Break everything up to start from scratch, so I don't need to contain evolution because of compatibility. This should be done for KDE5 again after KDE4.10 or so :) From daweber at wiktel.com Tue May 5 23:51:00 2009 From: daweber at wiktel.com (Web1) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 18:51:00 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Subject: Lockup after upgrade Message-ID: <4A00D0E4.000009.03276@OWNER-E619D3F22> Hi, I updated to the latest release of Kubuntu and have installed all the updates the update manager calls for. My problem appears to be with firefox which has been updated to the latest releases. It loads fine and appears to work fine until I click on links and more times than not the whole system will totally lock up and require a reboot. I did not have this problem before I upgraded from the previous most current kubuntu release. Could firefox was installed prior to the latest upgrade. Should I uninstall it and reinstall it on the new kubuntu upgrade. I think it might be related to firefox needing to access the Internet when I click on a link. It doesn t happen all the time but when it does it completely locks everything up. At least it appears that way. My mail works fine all the time. Another thing I was thinking is that it might be the mouse driver and the new upgrade? I know the mouse works good on my other drive with windows xp installed, so if it is anything it could be a compatibility issue with the new upgrade. Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and you do a great job on this forum. Web -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cary at bielenberg.id.au Wed May 6 00:00:46 2009 From: cary at bielenberg.id.au (Cary Bielenberg) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 10:00:46 +1000 Subject: Lockup after upgrade In-Reply-To: <4A00D0E4.000009.03276@OWNER-E619D3F22> References: <4A00D0E4.000009.03276@OWNER-E619D3F22> Message-ID: <4A00D32E.1010802@bielenberg.id.au> Web1 wrote: > Hi, > > I updated to the latest release of Kubuntu and have installed all the > updates the update manager calls for. My problem appears to be with > firefox, which has been updated to the latest releases. It loads fine > and appears to work fine until I click on links and more times than > not the whole system will totally lock up and require a reboot. I did > not have this problem before I upgraded from the previous most current > kubuntu release. > > Could firefox was installed prior to the latest upgrade. Should I > uninstall it and reinstall it on the new kubuntu upgrade. I think it > might be related to firefox needing to access the Internet when I > click on a link. It doesn't happen all the time but when it does it > completely locks everything up. At least it appears that way. > > My mail works fine all the time. Another thing I was thinking is that > it might be the mouse driver and the new upgrade? I know the mouse > works good on my other drive with windows xp installed, so if it is > anything it could be a compatibility issue with the new upgrade. > > Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks and you do a great job on this forum. > > Web > > > Per chance are you using a Intel graphics chipset? if you are try this as it worked for me. sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device" Option "AccelMethod" "uxa" EndSection Cary From daweber at wiktel.com Wed May 6 01:31:32 2009 From: daweber at wiktel.com (Web1) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:31:32 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Subject: Lockup Message-ID: <4A00E874.000013.03276@OWNER-E619D3F22> Thanks Cary but please know that I am new to Kubuntu and need step by step help. I am learning but the only experience I have ever had was with windows 95 and beyond. I don't really understand DOS. So please have patience with me. I am using a Asus M2N-E motherboard-----AMD Athlon 64X2 duel core 3800+ Does that help at all? Web Web1 wrote: > Hi, > > I updated to the latest release of Kubuntu and have installed all the > updates the update manager calls for. My problem appears to be with > firefox, which has been updated to the latest releases. It loads fine > and appears to work fine until I click on links and more times than > not the whole system will totally lock up and require a reboot. I did > not have this problem before I upgraded from the previous most current > kubuntu release. > > Could firefox was installed prior to the latest upgrade. Should I > uninstall it and reinstall it on the new kubuntu upgrade. I think it > might be related to firefox needing to access the Internet when I > click on a link. It doesn't happen all the time but when it does it > completely locks everything up. At least it appears that way. > > My mail works fine all the time. Another thing I was thinking is that > it might be the mouse driver and the new upgrade? I know the mouse > works good on my other drive with windows xp installed, so if it is > anything it could be a compatibility issue with the new upgrade. > > Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks and you do a great job on this forum. > > Web > > > Per chance are you using a Intel graphics chipset? if you are try this as it worked for me. sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device" Option "AccelMethod" "uxa" EndSection Cary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cary at bielenberg.id.au Wed May 6 03:15:27 2009 From: cary at bielenberg.id.au (Cary Bielenberg) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:15:27 +1000 Subject: Lockup In-Reply-To: <4A00E874.000013.03276@OWNER-E619D3F22> References: <4A00E874.000013.03276@OWNER-E619D3F22> Message-ID: <4A0100CF.6030601@bielenberg.id.au> Web1 wrote: > Thanks Cary but please know that I am new to Kubuntu and need step by > step help. I am learning but the only experience I have ever had was > with windows 95 and beyond. I don't really understand DOS. So please > have patience with me. > > I am using a Asus M2N-E motherboard-----AMD Athlon 64X2 duel core 3800+ > > Does that help at all? > > Web > > Web1 wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I updated to the latest release of Kubuntu and have installed all the > > updates the update manager calls for. My problem appears to be with > > firefox, which has been updated to the latest releases. It loads fine > > and appears to work fine until I click on links and more times than > > not the whole system will totally lock up and require a reboot. I did > > not have this problem before I upgraded from the previous most current > > kubuntu release. > > > > Could firefox was installed prior to the latest upgrade. Should I > > uninstall it and reinstall it on the new kubuntu upgrade. I think it > > might be related to firefox needing to access the Internet when I > > click on a link. It doesn't happen all the time but when it does it > > completely locks everything up. At least it appears that way. > > > > My mail works fine all the time. Another thing I was thinking is that > > it might be the mouse driver and the new upgrade? I know the mouse > > works good on my other drive with windows xp installed, so if it is > > anything it could be a compatibility issue with the new upgrade. > > > > Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks and you do a great job on this forum. > > > > Web > > > > > > > Per chance are you using a Intel graphics chipset? if you are try this > as it worked for me. sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf > > > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Configured Video Device" > Option "AccelMethod" "uxa" > > EndSection > > > > Cary > > > Open up Konsole (K button -> Applications -> System -> Konsole once you have the "dos" screen type lspci you will be looking for a line like this.. 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) If that is the case (Intel graphics card) reply back & I'll give you the step by step to rectify. Cary From gmane at auxbuss.com Wed May 6 06:58:48 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 06:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040422w3c9c8425ld15cc0e565ce5ae@mail.gmail.com> <4A00BC17.9080006@gmail.com> Message-ID: D. R. Evans said: > marc said the following at 05/04/2009 06:40 AM : > > >> Seems you can only apply "themes" now. For each widget you can choose >> your own "file", but there's no help, so I've no idea what those files >> are supposed to be. > > Yep. Some time ago I filed a bug report requesting user-accessible > documentation on this very issue. Do you have a ref? -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Wed May 6 07:10:22 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Lockup References: <4A00E874.000013.03276@OWNER-E619D3F22> Message-ID: Web1 said: > Thanks Cary but please know that I am new to Kubuntu and need step by > step help. I am learning but the only experience I have ever had was > with windows 95 and beyond. I don't really understand DOS. So please > have patience with me. > > I am using a Asus M2N-E motherboard-----AMD Athlon 64X2 duel core 3800+ > > Does that help at all? > > Web > > Web1 wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I updated to the latest release of Kubuntu and have installed all the >> updates the update manager calls for. My problem appears to be with >> firefox, which has been updated to the latest releases. It loads fine >> and appears to work fine until I click on links and more times than not >> the whole system will totally lock up and require a reboot. I did not >> have this problem before I upgraded from the previous most current >> kubuntu release. >> >> Could firefox was installed prior to the latest upgrade. Should I >> uninstall it and reinstall it on the new kubuntu upgrade. I think it >> might be related to firefox needing to access the Internet when I click >> on a link. It doesn't happen all the time but when it does it >> completely locks everything up. At least it appears that way. >> >> My mail works fine all the time. Another thing I was thinking is that >> it might be the mouse driver and the new upgrade? I know the mouse >> works good on my other drive with windows xp installed, so if it is >> anything it could be a compatibility issue with the new upgrade. >> >> Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks and you do a great job on this forum. >> >> Web >> >> >> > Per chance are you using a Intel graphics chipset? if you are try this > as it worked for me. sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf > > > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Configured Video Device" Option > "AccelMethod" "uxa" > > EndSection > > > > Cary > > > > > > bgColor=#ffffff background="" scroll=yes> cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0> > > > >
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Welcome to Kubuntu; you join us during interesting times. Allow me to pointed out a few conventions to you. - Please switch off html when replying to this list. - Please post below other replies; we call it bottom-posting. - Please trim your conversations to the relevant parts only. You can see the mess I've made by not adhering to these conventions! Thanks. Enjoy Linux and Kubuntu. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Wed May 6 10:31:51 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? Message-ID: Hi, I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I can't figure out how to do this in jaunty. The docs say: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch02s05.html Which is no help :-( System Setting has nothing in General, which seems weird to me, but there is Printer Config in Advanced. However, Printer Config only offers options for New Network Printer, which this isn't, or New Printer Class, which is a mystery. There's no option to a add local printer! Entering New Network Printer provides a bewildering set of options, but there is Other. However, clicking this only provides the option to enter the device URI! I've tried: http://localhost:631 I presume I need to "build" the URI somehow. Any ideas? -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Wed May 6 10:42:13 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: Message-ID: marc said: > I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I can't > figure out how to do this in jaunty. > > > System Setting has nothing in General, which seems weird to me, but > there is Printer Config in Advanced. > > However, Printer Config only offers options for New Network Printer, > which this isn't, or New Printer Class, which is a mystery. > > There's no option to a add local printer! > > Entering New Network Printer provides a bewildering set of options, but > there is Other. However, clicking this only provides the option to enter > the device URI! > > I've tried: > > http://localhost:631 > > I presume I need to "build" the URI somehow. Any ideas? I tried: $ system-config-printer This self-discovered the printer, via samba! However, when I try to print, I get: Tree connect failed (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED) When did printing become this hard! -- Best, Marc From jtnews at mail2004.dnsalias.org Wed May 6 10:44:19 2009 From: jtnews at mail2004.dnsalias.org (Jan Torben Heuer) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:44:19 +0200 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: Message-ID: marc wrote: > I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I can't > figure out how to do this in jaunty. For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. But it is a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. Nevertheless, the printer will appear in KDE, too. Cheers, Jan From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Wed May 6 11:23:20 2009 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:23:20 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905060723.20681.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> On Wednesday 06 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive from Jan Torben Heuer who wrote: > > I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I can't > > figure out how to do this in jaunty. > > For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. But it is > a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. Nevertheless, the > printer will appear in KDE, too. Install CUPS and do it through the web interface (http://localhost:631) Cheers, Ron. -- Ninety percent of the time things turn out worse than you thought they would. The other ten percent of the time you had no right to expect that much. -- Augustine, bishop of Hippo -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed May 6 11:29:21 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:29:21 +0200 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <200905060723.20681.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> References: <200905060723.20681.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Wednesday 06 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive > from Jan Torben Heuer who wrote: > >>> I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I can't >>> figure out how to do this in jaunty. >> For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. But it is >> a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. Nevertheless, the >> printer will appear in KDE, too. > > Install CUPS and do it through the web interface (http://localhost:631) > > Cheers, > > Ron. Did I miss it, or did the OP even not mention what printer he wants to use? Eberhard From guethling at googlemail.com Wed May 6 11:33:55 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:33:55 -0400 Subject: Lockup In-Reply-To: References: <4A00E874.000013.03276@OWNER-E619D3F22> Message-ID: <8abf83c20905060433p676b04cekd6daf08f380f6d8f@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:10 AM, marc wrote: > > > Welcome to Kubuntu; you join us during interesting times. > > Allow me to pointed out a few conventions to you. > > - Please switch off html when replying to this list. > - Please post below other replies; we call it bottom-posting. > - Please trim your conversations to the relevant parts only. > > You can see the mess I've made by not adhering to these conventions! > > Thanks. Enjoy Linux and Kubuntu. > > -- > Best, > Marc > Hey Web, May I add: - Please don't change the subject when replying This is not meant as an offense. It just helps the list to follow the conversation better and so it helps you to get a solution for your problem faster. Cheers. Sascha From renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org Wed May 6 11:42:43 2009 From: renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org (Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:42:43 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: <200905060723.20681.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: <200905060742.43625.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> On Wednesday 06 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive from Eberhard Roloff who wrote: > >>> I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I can't > >>> figure out how to do this in jaunty. > >> For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. But it > >> is a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. > >> Nevertheless, the printer will appear in KDE, too. > > Install CUPS and do it through the web interface (http://localhost:631) > Did I miss it, or did the OP even not mention what printer he wants to use? Seems quite clear he want to use a USB printer ? Cheers, Ron. -- Ninety percent of the time things turn out worse than you thought they would. The other ten percent of the time you had no right to expect that much. -- Augustine, bishop of Hippo -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- From rscrawford at mossroot.com Wed May 6 11:49:28 2009 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 04:49:28 -0700 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:31 AM, marc wrote: > I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I can't > figure out how to do this in jaunty. > > The docs say: > >  http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch02s05.html > > Which is no help :-( > > System Setting has nothing in General, which seems weird to me, but there > is Printer Config in Advanced. > > However, Printer Config only offers options for New Network Printer, > which this isn't, or New Printer Class, which is a mystery. This one baffled me too for awhile, until I found that the first print listed under "Network Printers" was in fact my local printer. I don't see why a local printer would be listed under network printers, and I presume this is a bug. But that's where I found it, and how I got the USB printer working on my system. -- Richard S. Crawford (rscrawford at mossroot.com) http://www.mossroot.com Publisher and Editor in Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) From guethling at googlemail.com Wed May 6 11:59:47 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:59:47 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8abf83c20905060459u7b6be361ra25058c7b49a255d@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:31 AM, marc wrote: > >> I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I can't >> figure out how to do this in jaunty. >> >> The docs say: >> >>  http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch02s05.html >> >> Which is no help :-( >> >> System Setting has nothing in General, which seems weird to me, but there >> is Printer Config in Advanced. >> >> However, Printer Config only offers options for New Network Printer, >> which this isn't, or New Printer Class, which is a mystery. > > This one baffled me too for awhile, until I found that the first print > listed under "Network Printers" was in fact my local printer. I don't > see why a local printer would be listed under network printers, and I > presume this is a bug. But that's where I found it, and how I got the > USB printer working on my system. > > -- > Richard S. Crawford (rscrawford at mossroot.com) > http://www.mossroot.com > Publisher and Editor in Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) > On my system I just plugged in the printer and a message appeared that the printer would be configured. And then another message appeared that the printer would be ready to print and a little printer icon was in the system tray. Afterwards the printer is available in the print dialog of applications and I can change settings under System Settings > Advanced > Printer Configuration. Richard: The USB printer is under local printers on my system. I have another printer, that is a network printer, that also appears under local printers. That's as strange as having a USB printer under network printers. Cheers Sascha From art.alexion at gmail.com Wed May 6 12:05:58 2009 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:05:58 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu 9.04 - system tray and panel lost! Nearly totally stuck! - SOLVED! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905060806.09319.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Tuesday 28 April 2009 05:48:27 Bas Roufs wrote: > 2009/4/28 Dotan Cohen : > >>> Again, I have problems with the system tray and panel. They simply do > >>> not appear any more. A few times I tried to get them back as follows: > >>> via terminal > sudo mc > I copied .kde to .kde-orig and than I deleted > >>> recursively the .kde directory. After restarting the computer, I hoped > >>> to get back the panel and system tray, because I had done so when I > >>> experienced a similar problem with Kubuntu 8.10. But now, no system > >>> tray and panel do come back after restarting the system. > > After writing my first message in this thread, I repeated the > procedure ascribed above. That 2nd attempt appeared to be successful. > Ever since, a new, more 'native' and fresh looking panel and system > tray keeps coming back whenever restarting the system. Also a typical > Kubuntu Jaunty feature has appeared now in the panel: the 'Network > Management' package which seemingly replaces and old, slightly buggy > "Network manager" which I found in 2 previous versions of Kubuntu. Is there a more precise, less draconian way to do this? I really don't want to recreate all of my kmail settings, etc. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 315 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From rscrawford at mossroot.com Wed May 6 12:08:51 2009 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 05:08:51 -0700 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <8abf83c20905060459u7b6be361ra25058c7b49a255d@mail.gmail.com> References: <8abf83c20905060459u7b6be361ra25058c7b49a255d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Sascha Güthling wrote: > The USB printer is under local printers on my system. I have another > printer, that is a network printer, that also appears under local > printers. That's as strange as having a USB printer under network > printers. I wonder if this is a Jaunty thing or a KDE 4.2 thing? Either way, it's annoying. -- Richard S. Crawford (rscrawford at mossroot.com) http://www.mossroot.com Publisher and Editor in Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Wed May 6 12:23:07 2009 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:23:07 +1000 Subject: Spam:*****, Re: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <8abf83c20905060459u7b6be361ra25058c7b49a255d@mail.gmail.com> References: <8abf83c20905060459u7b6be361ra25058c7b49a255d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905062223.07596.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Wed, 6 May 2009 09:59:47 pm Sascha Güthling wrote: > The USB printer is under local printers on my system. I have another > printer, that is a network printer, that also appears under local > printers. Is the connection via TCP/IP? -- Lindsay http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guethling at googlemail.com Wed May 6 12:32:57 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:32:57 -0400 Subject: Spam:*****, Re: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <200905062223.07596.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <8abf83c20905060459u7b6be361ra25058c7b49a255d@mail.gmail.com> <200905062223.07596.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8abf83c20905060532n5b8131ccp8f9a63a8083e752a@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2009 09:59:47 pm Sascha Güthling wrote: >> The USB printer is under local printers on my system. I have another >> printer, that is a network printer, that also appears under local >> printers. > > Is the connection via TCP/IP? > -- > Lindsay > http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home > The printer is connected to my router and my computer obviously is connected to that via TCP/IP. Sascha From art.alexion at gmail.com Wed May 6 12:47:44 2009 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:47:44 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu 9.04 - system tray and panel lost! Nearly totally stuck! - SOLVED! In-Reply-To: <200905060806.09319.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200905060806.09319.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905060847.55243.art.alexion@gmail.com> On Wednesday 06 May 2009 08:05:58 Art Alexion wrote: > On Tuesday 28 April 2009 05:48:27 Bas Roufs wrote: > > 2009/4/28 Dotan Cohen : > > >>> Again, I have problems with the system tray and panel. They simply do > > >>> not appear any more. A few times I tried to get them back as follows: > > >>> via terminal > sudo mc > I copied .kde to .kde-orig and than I > > >>> deleted recursively the .kde directory. After restarting the > > >>> computer, I hoped to get back the panel and system tray, because I > > >>> had done so when I experienced a similar problem with Kubuntu 8.10. > > >>> But now, no system tray and panel do come back after restarting the > > >>> system. > > > > After writing my first message in this thread, I repeated the > > procedure ascribed above. That 2nd attempt appeared to be successful. > > Ever since, a new, more 'native' and fresh looking panel and system > > tray keeps coming back whenever restarting the system. Also a typical > > Kubuntu Jaunty feature has appeared now in the panel: the 'Network > > Management' package which seemingly replaces and old, slightly buggy > > "Network manager" which I found in 2 previous versions of Kubuntu. > > Is there a more precise, less draconian way to do this? I really don't want > to recreate all of my kmail settings, etc. OK I followed the advice here and it worked perfectly. I also had to purge knetworkmanager to get wireless working. On Friday 28 November 2008 05:01:45 Alexander Smirnov wrote: > kquitapp plasma; rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-appletsrc; plasma > > This deletes your plasma settings, so you'll get the default > configuration back. The panel-vanishing-on-crash issue was fixed just > after 4.0.0's release. If running all the 3 commands at once doesn't > work, try typing them in manually and wait a few seconds before running > the next command. Thank you, Alexander! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 315 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Wed May 6 12:48:42 2009 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:48:42 +1000 Subject: Spam:*****, Re: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <8abf83c20905060532n5b8131ccp8f9a63a8083e752a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905062223.07596.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <8abf83c20905060532n5b8131ccp8f9a63a8083e752a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905062248.42789.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Wed, 6 May 2009 10:32:57 pm Sascha Güthling wrote: > The printer is connected to my router and my computer obviously is > connected to that via TCP/IP. Well not necessarily obviously - it could be connected via a different protocol such as netbios or cifs or via a higher layer such as lpr or ipp. The poitn I'm trying to make is that network connections are for resources accessed via a server on the network, e.g. a printer shared out via cifs (samba) or LPD. A printer connected directly to your PC via TCP - usually a RAW connection on port 9100, is regarded as local. The difference is that there is no mediating server. -- Lindsay http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Wed May 6 12:57:23 2009 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:57:23 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu 9.04 - system tray and panel lost! Nearly totally stuck! - SOLVED! In-Reply-To: <200905060806.09319.art.alexion@gmail.com> References: <200905060806.09319.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Art >> >>>...........A few times I tried to get them back as follows: >> >>> via terminal > sudo mc > I copied .kde to .kde-orig and than I deleted >> >>> recursively the .kde directory. After restarting the computer, I hoped >> >>> to get back the panel and system tray, because I had done so when I >> >>> experienced a similar problem with Kubuntu 8.10. But now, no system >> >>> tray and panel do come back after restarting the system. >> >> After writing my first message in this thread, I repeated the >> procedure ascribed above. That 2nd attempt appeared to be successful. >> Ever since, a new, more 'native' and fresh looking panel and system >> tray keeps coming back whenever restarting the system. Also a typical >> Kubuntu Jaunty feature has appeared now in the panel: the 'Network >> Management'  package which seemingly replaces and old, slightly buggy >> "Network manager" which I found in 2 previous versions of Kubuntu. > > Is there a more precise, less draconian way to do this? I really don't want to > recreate all of my kmail settings, etc. Already a few times, I have done so. However, nothing happened with the KMAIL and other settings. As far as I can see, that method is safe and precise enough. Respectfully yours, Bas. -- =============== Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht M. +31.6.446.835.10 T. +31.30.785.20.40 BasRoufs at gmail.com =============== From derek at pointerstop.ca Wed May 6 12:56:08 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 09:56:08 -0300 Subject: Can anybody confirm this bug References: <8abf83c20905041020u790237c4pd94522fb0cb24dba@mail.gmail.com> <8abf83c20905050920u33cf316dv588ac7aad5546d36@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <80e8d6-hgi.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> Sascha Güthling wrote: >> btw, your first line says "suspend to ram" and your description says >> "Suspend to Disk" - which is it? > > 1st: It has to be "Suspend to Ram" thanks for finding the typo. I > corrected the bug report already. I've never actually experimented with Suspend to Ram, so I can't help there, then. > > 2nd: I just updated my BIOS and the problem seems to be gone. I'll > test a bit more before I can really confirm that, but in two attempts > the laptop woke up without disk errors. > I don't have any options to change the mode of the disk in the BIOS > though. Maybe they changed it without notice. Interesting. Let's hope your problem is solved - though I hate problems that go away without explanation... -- derek From derek at pointerstop.ca Wed May 6 13:04:42 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 10:04:42 -0300 Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040741sb2b5766k992ec96b982dfc72@mail.gmail.com> <200905052236.51921.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Mark Greenwood wrote: >> You've used that argument before, but it's completely counter-linux. >> There are always situations where a knowledgeable user wants to change a >> _single_ >> item, and current theming prevents that. It's not what we're used to, > > You see, this is the sort of argument that *really* annoys me as a > software developer. It's that kind of thinking that has held desktop > design back by years. "It's not what we're used to therefore we don't like > it and we're going to moan about it". I agree that "It's not what we're used to" is an _insufficient_ argument - but it has to be considered along with the benefits if you want to change the UI radically. > Or put another way "It's different and I don't like it". That _wasn't_ the argument and you know it. > >> and >> ime it's not what most of us want. We are Linux users because we want >> _control_. > > Please don't assume you speak for all Linux users. I believe I can make a fine case that in this instance I speak for _most_ Linux users. After all, I said "it's not what most of us want". There are not a lot of users out there who really just want a working desktop that isn't Windows - because Linux has for so long needed considerable user investment. If you wanted "Just Works" and not Windows, you'd be using a Mac. > As far as I'm concerned, the KDE developers are to be congratulated on > deciding to do some things in a new and interesting way. New and interesting is good - and I love KDE4. That's not an excuse for making it impossible to change a single element of the desktop appearance just because it's controlled by a theme. > Anyway, sorry, I've gone OT. FWIW I think the original poster had a valid > point, but taking the argument into the "It's not what we're used to" > territory was something I could not ignore. I'll shut up now. Then you should have taken the whole post in context - which said that it's not wrong because it's different, but it's wrong because it doesn't fit in with the general philosophy of Linux development. -- derek From gmane at auxbuss.com Wed May 6 13:28:24 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: Message-ID: Richard S. Crawford said: > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:31 AM, marc wrote: > >> I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I can't >> figure out how to do this in jaunty. >> >> The docs say: >> >>  http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch02s05.html >> >> Which is no help :-( >> >> System Setting has nothing in General, which seems weird to me, but >> there is Printer Config in Advanced. >> >> However, Printer Config only offers options for New Network Printer, >> which this isn't, or New Printer Class, which is a mystery. > > This one baffled me too for awhile, until I found that the first print > listed under "Network Printers" was in fact my local printer. Okay, but it says LPT1: a printer connected to a parallel port. This is a USB printer. > I don't > see why a local printer would be listed under network printers, and I > presume this is a bug. But that's where I found it, and how I got the > USB printer working on my system. Anyway, I tried it and the URI it creates is: parallel:/dev/lp0 which surely won't work. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Wed May 6 13:34:07 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:34:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <200905060723.20681.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: Eberhard Roloff said: > Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: >> On Wednesday 06 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive >> from Jan Torben Heuer who wrote: >> >>>> I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I >>>> can't figure out how to do this in jaunty. >>> For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. But >>> it is a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. >>> Nevertheless, the printer will appear in KDE, too. >> >> Install CUPS and do it through the web interface (http://localhost:631) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ron. > Did I miss it, or did the OP even not mention what printer he wants to > use? It's a Canon Pixmar ip5300. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Wed May 6 13:31:03 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: Message-ID: Jan Torben Heuer said: > marc wrote: > >> I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I can't >> figure out how to do this in jaunty. > > For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. But it > is a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. > Nevertheless, the printer will appear in KDE, too. I tried: $ system-config-printer This self-discovered the printer, via samba! However, when I try to print, I get: Tree connect failed (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED) When did printing become this hard! -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Wed May 6 13:31:30 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <200905060723.20681.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI said: > On Wednesday 06 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive > from Jan Torben Heuer who wrote: > >> > I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I >> > can't figure out how to do this in jaunty. >> >> For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. But >> it is a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. >> Nevertheless, the printer will appear in KDE, too. > > Install CUPS and do it through the web interface (http://localhost:631) CUPS is installed and I am using :631. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Wed May 6 13:30:10 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <8abf83c20905060459u7b6be361ra25058c7b49a255d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Richard S. Crawford said: > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Sascha Güthling > wrote: > >> The USB printer is under local printers on my system. I have another >> printer, that is a network printer, that also appears under local >> printers. That's as strange as having a USB printer under network >> printers. > > I wonder if this is a Jaunty thing or a KDE 4.2 thing? Either way, it's > annoying. Yes, this is a h-u-g-e regression from KDE3. This printer worked fine before, and still does on other non kde4 machines. -- Best, Marc From derek at pointerstop.ca Wed May 6 13:09:01 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 10:09:01 -0300 Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040741sb2b5766k992ec96b982dfc72@mail.gmail.com> <200905052236.51921.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <4c6e034d0905051557y3a8ea53dtc85fd3aabe4b6187@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Antonio Augusto (Mancha) wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 19:38, marc wrote: >> They will regardless. However, the regressions are huge and that's a >> concern. I'm not sure many of us would go through this again, however >> many years it is down the tracks. > > I will! :D LOL. Me too. I remember KDE 1 to 2: painful. I remember KDE 2 to 3: not so painful. KDE 3.5 to 4.1: horrendous. Finally KDE 3.5 to 4.2: still pretty painful, but on the right track. -- derek From derek at pointerstop.ca Wed May 6 13:13:20 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 10:13:20 -0300 Subject: Lockup after upgrade References: <4A00D0E4.000009.03276@OWNER-E619D3F22> <4A00D32E.1010802@bielenberg.id.au> Message-ID: Cary Bielenberg wrote: > Web1 wrote: >> >> I updated to the latest release of Kubuntu and have installed all the >> updates the update manager calls for. My problem appears to be with >> firefox, which has been updated to the latest releases. It loads fine >> and appears to work fine until I click on links and more times than >> not the whole system will totally lock up and require a reboot. >> > Per chance are you using a Intel graphics chipset? if you are try this > as it worked for me. sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... > Section "Device" > Identifier "Configured Video Device" > Option "AccelMethod" "uxa" > > EndSection I haven't seen any evidence that the Intel graphics problem causes lockups - only very poor rendering in some cases - and suggesting using uxa (I really thought that had to be UXA, but I could be wrong) should at least be accompanied by a _strong_ warning that UXA is known to cause instability on some systems, so be absolutely sure to keep a backup xorg.conf, and preferably a second terminal ssh'd into your system - I couldn't get a console or X after trying UXA. -- derek From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed May 6 14:21:07 2009 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 08:21:07 -0600 Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 In-Reply-To: References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040422w3c9c8425ld15cc0e565ce5ae@mail.gmail.com> <4A00BC17.9080006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A019CD3.9060501@gmail.com> marc said the following at 05/06/2009 12:58 AM : > D. R. Evans said: > >> marc said the following at 05/04/2009 06:40 AM : >> >> >>> Seems you can only apply "themes" now. For each widget you can choose >>> your own "file", but there's no help, so I've no idea what those files >>> are supposed to be. >> Yep. Some time ago I filed a bug report requesting user-accessible >> documentation on this very issue. > > Do you have a ref? > Not off the top of my head; if get a chance, I'll look later today. It would have been a wish and have the word "document" somewhere in the title, so you could try looking for that yourself. Trouble is, I've filed so many reports and wishes in the past few months that I can't keep track of them all in my head any more. If I'd known I'd be filing so many, I'd have kept a little database here. It is possible (but unlikely) that I never got around to filing this one, but I'm usually pretty good at filing them as soon as I think of them, and I know I definitely thought of it, because I went through the same "Great! so I can point to a file, but what on Earth is that file supposed to contain?" process that it sounds like you did. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From guethling at googlemail.com Wed May 6 14:38:47 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:38:47 -0400 Subject: Spam:*****, Re: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <200905062248.42789.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <200905062223.07596.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <8abf83c20905060532n5b8131ccp8f9a63a8083e752a@mail.gmail.com> <200905062248.42789.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8abf83c20905060738h3a39627bgec7bc7d77241b78a@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2009 10:32:57 pm Sascha Güthling wrote: >> The printer is connected to my router and my computer obviously is >> connected to that via TCP/IP. > > > Well not necessarily obviously - it could be connected via a different > protocol such as netbios or cifs or via a higher layer such as lpr or ipp. > > The poitn I'm trying to make is that network connections are for resources > accessed via a server on the network, e.g. a printer shared out via cifs > (samba) or LPD. > > A printer connected directly to your PC via TCP - usually a RAW connection > on port 9100, is regarded as local. The difference is that there is no > mediating server. > > -- > Lindsay > http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home That probably makes sense for people that work with the internals or network everyday. But the normal user, and I think the *buntu family is addressed to these users expects a printer that is connected physically to the computer to be a local printer and a printer that is somehow further away from the computer to be a network printer. At least I do and I was not alone. In my case it makes sense after what you said, since my printer is connected to my router which runs a little print server that listens on port 9100. I still would expect my printer under network printers, since the printer address is different from my computers address. Cheers Sascha From claydoh at midmaine.com Wed May 6 14:47:59 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:47:59 -0400 Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 In-Reply-To: <4A019CD3.9060501@gmail.com> References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4A019CD3.9060501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905061047.59793.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Wednesday 06 May 2009 10:21:07 am D. R. Evans wrote: > marc said the following at 05/06/2009 12:58 AM : > > D. R. Evans said: > >> marc said the following at 05/04/2009 06:40 AM : > >>> Seems you can only apply "themes" now. For each widget you can choose > >>> your own "file", but there's no help, so I've no idea what those files > >>> are supposed to be. > >> > >> Yep. Some time ago I filed a bug report requesting user-accessible > >> documentation on this very issue. > > > > Do you have a ref? > > Not off the top of my head; if get a chance, I'll look later today. > > It would have been a wish and have the word "document" somewhere in the > title, so you could try looking for that yourself. > > Trouble is, I've filed so many reports and wishes in the past few months > that I can't keep track of them all in my head any more. If I'd known I'd > be filing so many, I'd have kept a little database here. > > It is possible (but unlikely) that I never got around to filing this one, > but I'm usually pretty good at filing them as soon as I think of them, and > I know I definitely thought of it, because I went through the same "Great! > so I can point to a file, but what on Earth is that file supposed to > contain?" process that it sounds like you did. > > Doc I know it isn't perfect by any means, but you can pick a theme that follows system colors (Aya is one), and in System Settings you can use the Theme Details section to pick and choose which parts use which theme. So you could use Aya for your taskbar, for example, and use a transparent theme for desktop widgets. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Wed May 6 14:54:48 2009 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: KPackageEdit help Message-ID: <872286689.5114901241621688976.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> My first impressions of the new package manager in Intrepid are not so good. I don't find it as user friendly as earlier iterations (just my opinion). Is there a user guide somewhere? Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <8abf83c20905060459u7b6be361ra25058c7b49a255d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 14:08, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Sascha Güthling > wrote: > >> The USB printer is under local printers on my system. I have another >> printer, that is a network printer, that also appears under local >> printers. That's as strange as having a USB printer under network >> printers. > > I wonder if this is a Jaunty thing or a KDE 4.2 thing? Either way, > it's annoying. It is a Jaunty problem, doesn't happen in OpenSuSE 11.1 which I tested, although on an other computer than this one. In this one I was able to configure my USB printer with Intrepid, it worked briefly with Alpha 5, and has gone again in Jaunty final (all clean installs). The local printer option has just simply gone. I can configure the printer with the CUPS administration tool though. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed May 6 15:54:32 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:54:32 +0200 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: <200905060723.20681.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: marc wrote: > Eberhard Roloff said: > >> Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: >>> On Wednesday 06 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive >>> from Jan Torben Heuer who wrote: >>> >>>>> I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I >>>>> can't figure out how to do this in jaunty. >>>> For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. But >>>> it is a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. >>>> Nevertheless, the printer will appear in KDE, too. >>> Install CUPS and do it through the web interface (http://localhost:631) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Ron. >> Did I miss it, or did the OP even not mention what printer he wants to >> use? > > It's a Canon Pixmar ip5300. > Actually, for Canon I ALWAYS use turboprint. Not that the printer will not somehow work without it (I do not know) but is it worth the hassle when turboprint simply works? And imho it works at least as well as the 100MB+ Canon drivers for Windows. see http://www.turboprint.info/printers_Canon.html Eberhard From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Wed May 6 16:00:14 2009 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:00:14 +0100 Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 52, Issue 31 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A01B40E.2070601@btinternet.com> > > I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I can't > > figure out how to do this in jaunty. > For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. But it is a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. Nevertheless, the printer will appear in KDE, too. Cheers, Jan In console, I installed hplip using apt-get and then 'kdesudo hp-setup' in the resultant gui just select the type of printer connection(it defaults to the one you want) and keep answering questions until it prints test page, et voila. brian From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Wed May 6 16:20:33 2009 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:20:33 +0100 Subject: jaunty: no BBC sound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A01B8D1.7000001@btinternet.com> Brian Norman Wootton said the following at 05/05/2009 03:21 AM : > > As I am using 32bit, maybe other 64-bit people can confirm that your > >> >> link works or not? >> >> >> >> Eberhard >> >> >> >> >> > > > > I'm running Kubuntu 9.04 on a 64 bit AMD - I get sound and vision > > perfectly from BBC iPlayer using Firefox. I only have java and Xmark > My question was not about iPlayer, though :-( Doc skip reading again - bad habit of mine - dear oh dear. I can't find any video output from the BBC that I can't play so far and your specimen URL has timed out, can you give me another example? or tell me where to go looking. brian From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Wed May 6 16:27:18 2009 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:27:18 +0100 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A01BA66.6090600@btinternet.com> Sorry, went off half-cocked again, hp-setup will only install HP printers, I tend to assume that linux users would only buy HP printers because they're the only firm I know of who have done anything for us, hplip is very useful in my opinion and gets close to the functionality of Vista/HP print apps. brian From mirtosilvio.busico at fastwebnet.it Wed May 6 17:32:03 2009 From: mirtosilvio.busico at fastwebnet.it (Mirto Silvio Busico) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:32:03 +0200 Subject: (jaunty) What are blocked updates? Message-ID: <4A01C993.9000406@fastwebnet.it> Hi all, I'm using a Kubuntu 9.04 (upgraded fron 8.10) Today the update notifier showed me 4 blocked updates: it is the latest kernel image. So my questions: * what are blocked updates? * have I to force the update manually? Thanks Mirto -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mirtosilvio_busico.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 272 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed May 6 18:35:40 2009 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:35:40 +0300 Subject: Kubuntu 9.04 - system tray and panel lost! Nearly totally stuck! - SOLVED! In-Reply-To: References: <200905060806.09319.art.alexion@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00905061135sd2f0eb0n95318628b02d6818@mail.gmail.com> > Already a few times, I have done so. However, nothing happened with > the KMAIL and other settings. As far as I can see, that method is safe > and precise enough. > > Respectfully yours, > > Bas. > Removing ~/.kde should in fact remove kmail's config and data. You could try grepping ~/.kde/share/config for the fouled config file and just remove that. If you can't find it, tell me _specifically_ what is borked and I will try to help locate the correct file to delete. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il From tanghus at gmail.com Wed May 6 18:51:26 2009 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:51:26 +0200 Subject: Plasma question Message-ID: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> Hi I have a question from me as a total newbie as a Plasma user. How do you actually move the widgets on the panel? -- Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Til uvedkommende, der læser med: Der er ingen grund til at læse min mail. Jeg har intet at gøre med FARC, al-Jihad, al-Qaida, Hamas, Hizb al-Mujahidin eller ETA. Jeg har aldrig gjort Zakat, går ikke ind for Istishad, har ikke lavet en bilbombe eller kernevåben og jeg ved dårligt nok, hvad Al Manar og бомба betyder. Men tak for den udviste interesse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From myriam at ubuntu.com Wed May 6 19:19:32 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:19:32 +0200 Subject: (jaunty) What are blocked updates? In-Reply-To: <4A01C993.9000406@fastwebnet.it> References: <4A01C993.9000406@fastwebnet.it> Message-ID: Hi Mirto On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 19:32, Mirto Silvio Busico wrote: > Hi all, > I'm using a Kubuntu 9.04 (upgraded fron 8.10) > > Today the update notifier showed me 4 blocked updates: it is the latest > kernel image. > > So my questions: > >   * what are blocked updates? >   * have I to force the update manually? This happens when your update happens in the middle of a package update on your mirror. It is likely that the repository is being updated and some packages on which the blocked updates rely are not updated yet. And no, you don't have to force the update, just wait a few more hours (up to 2 days sometimes, depending on the speed of your mirror) to get the missing packages. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From claydoh at midmaine.com Wed May 6 19:23:34 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:23:34 -0400 Subject: (jaunty) What are blocked updates? In-Reply-To: <4A01C993.9000406@fastwebnet.it> References: <4A01C993.9000406@fastwebnet.it> Message-ID: <200905061523.35306.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Wednesday 06 May 2009 1:32:03 pm Mirto Silvio Busico wrote: > Hi all, > I'm using a Kubuntu 9.04 (upgraded fron 8.10) > > Today the update notifier showed me 4 blocked updates: it is the latest > kernel image. > > So my questions: > > * what are blocked updates? > * have I to force the update manually? > > Thanks > Mirto the so-called 'blocked' updates are packages that are missing some of their required packages. usually this is because they have not fully been uploaded to the servers, or perhaps a broken package has been uploaded. This can also happen a lot if you have ppa or other external repositories enabled, or even enabling "unsupported updates" and "Pre-release updates" can cause this to happen. Usually you just need to wait, sometimes a day or so, for things to finalize. The devs are currently uploading stuff to the kubuntu-experimental ppa, and I notice some kernel updates from either the unsupported or pre-release repo. So let it wait for now. If you are not sure, you can disable any extra repos you are using and check again. For me the blocked packages are coming from the pre-release repo, the ones from the kubuntu-experimental seem finished now and don't have any blockes here. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 6 20:01:27 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:01:27 +0200 Subject: KMail problems on Jaunty In-Reply-To: <200905031425.45554.michael@weblore.com> References: <200905031425.45554.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200905062201.27662.kassube@gmx.net> Michael Satterwhite wrote: > I've just upgraded from Hardy to Jaunty. I'm having the devil's time > trying to move my Kontact / Kmail settings to the new kmail. Note > that I didn't use the adept (which reminds me - where did adept go?) > to do the upgrade. I tried, but as usual, that didn't work. I saved > my old home directory and etc/ and did a fresh install. I have all > the settings files from the Hardy installation. > > In the past, all I've had to do was move the .kde/kmailrc file to the > new home directory along with the .kde/kmail directory. This time, > none of the identities or outgoing settings were there when I came > up. It also lost track of all my spam settings and message filters - > which were working so well before. There are some more files apart from kmailrc which are relevant for the kmail settings. E.g. the email identities seem to be in the file "~/.kde/share/config/emailidentities". I would suggest you check the files in "~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/" and "~/.kde/share/config/*mail*". Nils From kk at x-t.at Wed May 6 20:06:59 2009 From: kk at x-t.at (kk at x-t.at) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:06:59 +0200 (CEST) Subject: ZIMBRA Message-ID: <16242431.261241640419011.JavaMail.root@mail> have anyboy an idea about installation of ZIMBRA Desktop on a suse 11.1 system? greetings charly From fatgerman at ntlworld.com Wed May 6 20:15:43 2009 From: fatgerman at ntlworld.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:15:43 +0100 Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 In-Reply-To: References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <200905052236.51921.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <200905062115.43820.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> On Tuesday 05 May 2009 23:38:53 marc wrote: > >> > >> You've used that argument before, but it's completely counter-linux. > >> There are always situations where a knowledgeable user wants to change > >> a _single_ item, and current theming prevents that. It's not what > >> we're used to, > > > > You see, this is the sort of argument that *really* annoys me as a > > software developer. It's that kind of thinking that has held desktop > > design back by years. "It's not what we're used to therefore we don't > > like it and we're going to moan about it". Or put another way "It's > > different and I don't like it". > > You see, this is the sort of argument that *really*, *really* makes me > raise an eyebrow as a software developer. Sometimes both eyebrows. > > That is, using the excuse that users claiming about the removal of > features is a "fear of change". It's at best a non sequitur. That wasn't what I was arguing. Yes, complaining about removal of features is perfectly valid; but using the argument that "it's not what we're used to" is utterly stifling. How can progress ever occur if you can't change what people are "used to"? Put another way "you've removed this feature and I don't like that because I was using it for such-and-such and now I can't do that" is constructive. "you're removed this feature and I don't like that because it's not what I'm used to" isn't constructive or helpful, it's simply foot-stamping. > > Arguments like that make progress and > > real innovation next to impossible. Thinking like that creates > > stagnation. > > No. It's a failure of developers to understand the process of making > change while keeping the train running and on the tracks. Usually, it's > because the developers/architects don't have the necessary skills, and/or > the imagination. But using that argument makes it impossible to remove any features or change any of the fundamental concepts. Sometimes useful changes result from a complete shift of philosophy. I'd much rather see that than the endless, mind-numbingly tiny shifts in concept we see at the moment. Some of the most unique and wonderful UI design ideas I've seen have been shelved simply because they are "too far ahead of their time".. what on earth does that even mean? > They will regardless. However, the regressions are huge and that's a > concern. I'm not sure many of us would go through this again, however > many years it is down the tracks. Regressions are something different. My argument was all about the "it's not what we're used to" attitude expressed in one post. I agree, KDE 4.2 is not finished, it's not ready... but there are many things about it I like, and I like them precisely because they're not what I am used to; they are progress, and they are different. ATB, Mark From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 6 20:35:49 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:35:49 +0200 Subject: ZIMBRA In-Reply-To: <16242431.261241640419011.JavaMail.root@mail> References: <16242431.261241640419011.JavaMail.root@mail> Message-ID: <200905062235.49135.kassube@gmx.net> kk at x-t.at wrote: > have anyboy an idea about installation of ZIMBRA Desktop on a suse > 11.1 system? greetings I would suggest you ask that question on a SUSE list. Nils From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed May 6 22:12:30 2009 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 16:12:30 -0600 Subject: jaunty: no BBC sound In-Reply-To: <4A01B8D1.7000001@btinternet.com> References: <4A01B8D1.7000001@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <4A020B4E.9080000@gmail.com> Brian Norman Wootton said the following at 05/06/2009 10:20 AM : > > skip reading again - bad habit of mine - dear oh dear. I can't find any video > output from the BBC that I can't play so far and your specimen URL has timed > out, can you give me another example? or tell me where to go looking. > brian > Well, I had to reboot this morning, and the problem seems to have gone away, at least for now -- as did a much more dire one: the loss of a CD drive. So I'll probably never know what caused either problem :-( But thank you for trying. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Wed May 6 23:18:13 2009 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 09:18:13 +1000 Subject: Spam:*****, Re: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? Message-ID: <4a021ab5.cd.2c6a.1925591208@blackpaw.dyndns.org> ----- Original Message ----- From: Sascha Güthling To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Subject: Re: Spam:*****, Re: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:38:47 -0400 > That probably makes sense for people that work with the > internals or network everyday. But the normal user, and I > think the *buntu family is addressed to these users > expects a printer that is connected physically to the > computer to be a local printer and a printer that is > somehow further away from the computer to be a network > printer. At least I do and I was not alone. Agree 100% :) One of those things people like myself get anal about that doesn't make much sense in RL. Lindsay Mathieson http://members.optusnet.com.au/~blackpaw1/album From paulatgm at gmail.com Thu May 7 00:39:12 2009 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 20:39:12 -0400 Subject: 4.2.3 is out Message-ID: <4A022DB0.8030508@gmail.com> more bug fixes From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu May 7 01:35:33 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:35:33 -0400 Subject: Lockup after upgrade In-Reply-To: <4A00D0E4.000009.03276@OWNER-E619D3F22> References: <4A00D0E4.000009.03276@OWNER-E619D3F22> Message-ID: <200905062135.33284.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Tuesday 05 May 2009 07:51:00 pm Web1 wrote: > Hi, > > I updated to the latest release of Kubuntu and have installed all the > updates the update manager calls for. My problem appears to be with > firefox which has been updated to the latest releases. It loads fine and > appears to work fine until I click on links and more times than not the > whole system will totally lock up and require a reboot. I did not have > this problem before I upgraded from the previous most current kubuntu > release. > > Could firefox was installed prior to the latest upgrade. Should I > uninstall it and reinstall it on the new kubuntu upgrade. I think it might > be related to firefox needing to access the Internet when I click on a > link. It doesn t happen all the time but when it does it completely locks > everything up. At least it appears that way. > > My mail works fine all the time. Another thing I was thinking is that it > might be the mouse driver and the new upgrade? I know the mouse works good > on my other drive with windows xp installed, so if it is anything it could > be a compatibility issue with the new upgrade. > > Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks and you do a great job on this forum. > > Web Hi, I don't have a great deal more experience than you, however, I have had similar problems and maybe have some answers that may help you. My system is an AMD quad with lots of memory. My motherboard is ASUS too, however it is an ASUS M3N-HT-mempipe. It is 64 bit like yours too. My motherboard has a 780a nVidia chip, and my video card is also nVidia, 9600 Gforce. Not as a result of my own knowledge, but the help of others, I found that Jaunty had solutions for my motherboard chipset and video card, + the 8gb of ram that can cause problems for some Operating Systems in Linux. So if you have nVidia, or lots of memory, or a high end nVidia chipset on your motherboard, you may have some simple solutions to improve your stability. But if you don't have these factors, I am apprehensive to make a recommendation, because my help comes second hand rather from my own understanding. Tell me what your Video Card is and how much memory you have on your system. I will look up your motherboard to see the chip that is included. If your system has similar components as mine, choosing the correct video drivers and the inclusion of a comment in your boot instructions may be all that is required to stabilize your system. If that is the case, you will love the results. Prior to helping you, I will consult the friend that helped me. I am just writing in case no one else has a solution for you. Steven Steven From guethling at googlemail.com Thu May 7 02:36:42 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:36:42 -0400 Subject: Plasma question In-Reply-To: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8abf83c20905061936g4ed830adt6b320257f9895da9@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/6 Thomas Olsen : > Hi > > I have a question from me as a total newbie as a Plasma user. How do you > actually move the widgets on the panel? > > -- > Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen > > Thomas Olsen > > Til uvedkommende, der læser med: Der er ingen grund til at læse min mail. > Jeg har intet at gøre med FARC, al-Jihad, al-Qaida, Hamas, Hizb al-Mujahidin > eller ETA. > Jeg har aldrig gjort Zakat, går ikke ind for Istishad, har ikke lavet en > bilbombe eller kernevåben og jeg ved dårligt nok, hvad Al Manar og бомба > betyder. > Men tak for den udviste interesse > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Hi Thomas, When you move your mouse pointer over a widget a black box should appear right or left of it. You can click and hold into that box (not on the little buttons) and drag it to wherever you want. If the box doesn't appear you have locked the widgets. Click on the widget control thingy (what's the name of that thing anyways) in the upper right corner of the screen and unlock them. Cheers Sascha From johndecarlo at gmail.com Thu May 7 02:37:19 2009 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:37:19 -0400 Subject: 4.2.3 is out In-Reply-To: <4A022DB0.8030508@gmail.com> References: <4A022DB0.8030508@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3dde113c0905061937q7f7bd7c3q57c27d7f6e0548c6@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Paul S wrote: > more bug fixes > > 1. Can I install it on Jaunty? 2. If so, how? 3. Or should I wait until Jaunty includes it? -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500&ref=mf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's not 100 % done packaging yet, I suggest waiting for the announcement on kubuntu.org, which will have instructions. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From wayward4now at gmail.com Thu May 7 03:05:19 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 23:05:19 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <200905060723.20681.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> References: <200905060723.20681.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> Message-ID: <1241665519.29605.139.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:23 -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Wednesday 06 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive > from Jan Torben Heuer who wrote: > > > > I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I can't > > > figure out how to do this in jaunty. > > > > For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. But it is > > a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. Nevertheless, the > > printer will appear in KDE, too. > > Install CUPS and do it through the web interface (http://localhost:631) > There ya go! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Thu May 7 03:30:39 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 23:30:39 -0400 Subject: ZIMBRA In-Reply-To: <200905062235.49135.kassube@gmx.net> References: <16242431.261241640419011.JavaMail.root@mail> <200905062235.49135.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1241667039.29605.141.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 22:35 +0200, Nils Kassube wrote: > kk at x-t.at wrote: > > have anyboy an idea about installation of ZIMBRA Desktop on a suse > > 11.1 system? greetings > > I would suggest you ask that question on a SUSE list. Sound advice! :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From crisnoh at gmail.com Thu May 7 03:31:49 2009 From: crisnoh at gmail.com (Cristopher Thomas) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 23:31:49 -0400 Subject: Network problems on resume Message-ID: <200905062332.17763.crisnoh@gmail.com> When I resume from suspend or hibernate networkmanager applet reconnects to my wireless network just fine, but I can't access the internet. I have to reboot in order to get my internet connection back. Does anyone have any idea what might be causing this? - Cris -- | GPG Key : D7800549 | crisnoh.wordpress.com | www.twitter.com/crisnoh o|||||||o -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From microman at cmosnetworks.com Thu May 7 04:16:24 2009 From: microman at cmosnetworks.com (Terrell Prude' Jr.) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 00:16:24 -0400 Subject: Anybody having issues updating libqtgui4 on Jaunty? Message-ID: <4A026098.9050105@cmosnetworks.com> I just did apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade, and I'm seeing the following messages. Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] Get:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] ...and it keeps going just like this. Eventually I get a "Hash Sum Mismatch" error, and the update does not proceed. I've also tried "apt-get dist-upgrade", which also updates the kernel packages, and I see the same thing. As a troubleshooting step, I did apt-get clean, and then did the whole update/upgrade again, and the error keeps occurring. Yes, I'm doing this as root (both sudo -i and actually su'ing to root). Any ideas? Thanks, --TP From irving.lp at feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu Thu May 7 04:39:20 2009 From: irving.lp at feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu (Irving Leonard) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 00:39:20 -0400 Subject: KDE4 unusefull in a toshiba satellite A70 Message-ID: <200905070039.20387.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> I have a Toshiba Satellite A70, that have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000IGP and the default kubuntu install give me a system with few visual effects and a lot of CPU utilization. Disabling the desktop effects gives very small improve but still huge CPU load; over 70% and just hovering over emails in kmail, with kontact using +30% and xorg +40%. It is killing (literally) my machine (hot, power, etc.) regards irving VI Conferencia Internacional de Energ�a Renovable, Ahorro de Energ�a y Educaci�n Energ�tica 9 - 12 de Junio 2009, Palacio de las Convenciones ...Por una cultura energ�tica sustentable www.ciercuba.com From irving.lp at feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu Thu May 7 04:01:16 2009 From: irving.lp at feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu (Irving Leonard) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 00:01:16 -0400 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905070001.16353.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> On Martes 05 Mayo 2009 04:10:47 PM ray burke escribió: > Eberhard, > > OK thanks I thought that is what is meant!!!!!!!!! > > ray > > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > > ray burke wrote: > > > lisi, > > > > > > what you mean "Yes, I would imagine that she does."?????????? > > > > it means: YES, click on the plain text tab and then see whether it helps. > > Eberhard > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users You can still use the IRC channel for this kind of konversation regards irving VI Conferencia Internacional de Energ�a Renovable, Ahorro de Energ�a y Educaci�n Energ�tica 9 - 12 de Junio 2009, Palacio de las Convenciones ...Por una cultura energ�tica sustentable www.ciercuba.com From irving.lp at feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu Thu May 7 04:50:05 2009 From: irving.lp at feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu (Irving Leonard) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 00:50:05 -0400 Subject: KDE4 unusefull in a toshiba satellite A70 In-Reply-To: <200905070039.20387.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> References: <200905070039.20387.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> Message-ID: <200905070050.05900.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> On Jueves 07 Mayo 2009 12:39:20 AM Irving Leonard escribió: > I have a Toshiba Satellite A70, that have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000IGP > and the default kubuntu install give me a system with few visual effects > and a lot of CPU utilization. Disabling the desktop effects gives very > small improve but still huge CPU load; over 70% and just hovering over > emails in kmail, with kontact using +30% and xorg +40%. > It is killing (literally) my machine (hot, power, etc.) The KDE4 is from a jaunty and my point of comparation is a friend who has a dell inspiron 1300 with intel graphics and use full effects without that huge CPU power. regards irving VI Conferencia Internacional de Energ�a Renovable, Ahorro de Energ�a y Educaci�n Energ�tica 9 - 12 de Junio 2009, Palacio de las Convenciones ...Por una cultura energ�tica sustentable www.ciercuba.com From vladimir at highskytech.com Thu May 7 05:19:53 2009 From: vladimir at highskytech.com (vladimir at highskytech.com) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 05:19:53 -0000 (GMT) Subject: Network problems on resume In-Reply-To: <200905062332.17763.crisnoh@gmail.com> References: <200905062332.17763.crisnoh@gmail.com> Message-ID: <32923.82.196.56.36.1241673593.squirrel@74.55.68.14> Hi Cris, You can check your /etc/resolve.conf if you have nameserver line there. It's common to have your default gateway, router ip address there. But maybe you can try to put ip addresses of your ISP DNS servers there. Vladimir > When I resume from suspend or hibernate networkmanager applet reconnects > to my wireless network just fine, but I can't access the internet. I have > to > reboot in order to get my internet connection back. Does anyone have any > idea > what might be causing this? > > - Cris > -- > | GPG Key : D7800549 > | crisnoh.wordpress.com > | www.twitter.com/crisnoh > o|||||||o > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From vladimir at highskytech.com Thu May 7 05:19:53 2009 From: vladimir at highskytech.com (vladimir at highskytech.com) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 05:19:53 -0000 (GMT) Subject: Network problems on resume In-Reply-To: <200905062332.17763.crisnoh@gmail.com> References: <200905062332.17763.crisnoh@gmail.com> Message-ID: <32923.82.196.56.36.1241673593.squirrel@74.55.68.14> Hi Cris, You can check your /etc/resolve.conf if you have nameserver line there. It's common to have your default gateway, router ip address there. But maybe you can try to put ip addresses of your ISP DNS servers there. Vladimir > When I resume from suspend or hibernate networkmanager applet reconnects > to my wireless network just fine, but I can't access the internet. I have > to > reboot in order to get my internet connection back. Does anyone have any > idea > what might be causing this? > > - Cris > -- > | GPG Key : D7800549 > | crisnoh.wordpress.com > | www.twitter.com/crisnoh > o|||||||o > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From mirtosilvio.busico at fastwebnet.it Thu May 7 05:30:07 2009 From: mirtosilvio.busico at fastwebnet.it (Mirto Silvio Busico) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 07:30:07 +0200 Subject: [solved] Re: (jaunty) What are blocked updates? In-Reply-To: References: <4A01C993.9000406@fastwebnet.it> Message-ID: <4A0271DF.3030103@fastwebnet.it> Thanks a lot Myriam. Regards Mirto Myriam Schweingruber ha scritto: > Hi Mirto > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 19:32, Mirto Silvio Busico > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I'm using a Kubuntu 9.04 (upgraded fron 8.10) >> >> Today the update notifier showed me 4 blocked updates: it is the latest >> kernel image. >> >> So my questions: >> >> * what are blocked updates? >> * have I to force the update manually? >> > > This happens when your update happens in the middle of a package > update on your mirror. It is likely that the repository is being > updated and some packages on which the blocked updates rely are not > updated yet. > > And no, you don't have to force the update, just wait a few more hours > (up to 2 days sometimes, depending on the speed of your mirror) to get > the missing packages. > > > Regards, Myriam. > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <4A026098.9050105@cmosnetworks.com> References: <4A026098.9050105@cmosnetworks.com> Message-ID: <200905070737.05439.kassube@gmx.net> Terrell Prude' Jr. wrote: > I just did apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade, and I'm seeing > the following messages. > > > Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 > 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] > Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 > 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] > Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 > 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] > Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 > 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] > Get:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 > 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] > > ...and it keeps going just like this. Eventually I get a "Hash Sum > Mismatch" error, and the update does not proceed. I've also tried > "apt-get dist-upgrade", which also updates the kernel packages, and I > see the same thing. Do you really need the jaunty-proposed repository? If you don't, disable it. Or you could just wait some more time and try again or use another mirror. Nils From tuxebi at gmx.de Thu May 7 06:21:22 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:21:22 +0200 Subject: KDE4 unusefull in a toshiba satellite A70 In-Reply-To: <200905070050.05900.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> References: <200905070039.20387.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> <200905070050.05900.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> Message-ID: Irving Leonard wrote: > On Jueves 07 Mayo 2009 12:39:20 AM Irving Leonard escribió: >> I have a Toshiba Satellite A70, that have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000IGP >> and the default kubuntu install give me a system with few visual effects >> and a lot of CPU utilization. Disabling the desktop effects gives very >> small improve but still huge CPU load; over 70% and just hovering over >> emails in kmail, with kontact using +30% and xorg +40%. OK, do you find this comfortable to use? If not: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop cheers Eberhard From myriam at ubuntu.com Thu May 7 06:40:29 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:40:29 +0200 Subject: Plasma question In-Reply-To: <8abf83c20905061936g4ed830adt6b320257f9895da9@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> <8abf83c20905061936g4ed830adt6b320257f9895da9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Sascha, On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 04:36, Sascha Güthling wrote: > 2009/5/6 Thomas Olsen : >> Hi >> >> I have a question from me as a total newbie as a Plasma user. How do you >> actually move the widgets on the panel? > > When you move your mouse pointer over a widget a black box should > appear right or left of it. Not in the panel, only on the desktop... > Click on the widget control thingy (what's the name of that thing anyways) in the upper right corner of the screen and unlock them. The 'thingy' is called the 'cashew', mostly because of its form :) Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From myriam at ubuntu.com Thu May 7 06:46:51 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:46:51 +0200 Subject: Anybody having issues updating libqtgui4 on Jaunty? In-Reply-To: <4A026098.9050105@cmosnetworks.com> References: <4A026098.9050105@cmosnetworks.com> Message-ID: Hi Terrell, On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 06:16, Terrell Prude' Jr. wrote: > I just did apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade, and I'm seeing > the following messages. > > Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 > 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] ... > ...and it keeps going just like this.  Eventually I get a "Hash Sum > Mismatch" error, and the update does not proceed.  I've also tried > "apt-get dist-upgrade", which also updates the kernel packages, and I > see the same thing. Once you are on Jaunty, no need to do 'dist-upgrade' again, this will not change anything. Are you sure you need the 'proposed' repository? This makes sense only if you carefully choose what you are going to upgrade (idem for all other 'non-standard' repositories). Just doing sudo apt-get upgrade without choosing can easily get you in trouble with package conflicts. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From myriam at ubuntu.com Thu May 7 06:52:31 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:52:31 +0200 Subject: KDE4 unusefull in a toshiba satellite A70 In-Reply-To: <200905070039.20387.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> References: <200905070039.20387.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> Message-ID: Hi Irving, On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 06:39, Irving Leonard wrote: > I have a Toshiba Satellite A70, that have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000IGP and > the default kubuntu install give me a system with few visual effects and a lot > of CPU utilization. I guess it's Xorg that eats up the CPU, likely because of the buggy fglrx driver in Jaunty. You might be better off with the radeon driver instead. > Disabling the desktop effects gives very small improve but > still huge CPU load; over 70% and just hovering over emails in kmail, with > kontact using +30% and xorg +40%. What power does your laptop have? Please give the CPU and the amount of RAM. If you have less than 512 MB of RAM you should consider using another desktop like Xubuntu. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From dave6502 at googlemail.com Thu May 7 07:01:19 2009 From: dave6502 at googlemail.com (dave selby) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:01:19 +0100 Subject: System settings > Desktop > Enable desktop effects causes fglrx to cycle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Still having the same problem, in addition around one in every 5-10 KDE starts, when the KDE startup screen has finished the screen goes totally blank and even ctrl-alt-f1 does zip, I suspect this is the display driver as well. Extra info ... vanda at vanda-system:~$ sudo lshw | grep display -nA 10 96: *-display 97- description: VGA compatible controller 98- product: RV635 PRO AGP [Radeon HD 3650] 99- vendor: ATI Technologies Inc 100- physical id: 0 101- bus info: pci at 0000:01:00.0 102- version: 00 103- width: 32 bits 104- clock: 66MHz 105- capabilities: pm agp agp-3.0 bus_master cap_list 106- configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=255 mingnt=8 module=fglrx vanda at vanda-system:~$ Any ideas anyone ? Cheers Dave 2009/5/4 dave selby : > I have a problem that is driving me slightly crazy ... > > I have a Asus ATI Radeon HD 3650 dual head on my wifes machine running > the fglrx driver. It works OK, if a little hesitant. > glx gears gives 4900 fps, 'world of goo' runs smoothly ... > > The problem comes when I enable ... > System settings > Desktop > Enable desktop effects. > > When I do the screen freezes, goes black, flashes parts of the desktop > and cycles like this for approx 30 seconds then returns > with 'Enable desktop effects' unticked. > > Looking at /var/log/Xorg.o.log I get continuous repeating of > > (II) fglrx(0): EDID vendor "SAM", prod id 997 > (II) fglrx(0): Using EDID range info for horizontal sync > (II) fglrx(0): Using EDID range info for vertical refresh > (II) fglrx(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x0.0  119.00  1680 1728 1760 1840 > 1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync (64.7 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600 > 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   36.00  800 824 896 1024  600 > 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   31.50  640 656 720 840  480 > 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   31.50  640 664 704 832  480 > 489 492 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   30.24  640 704 768 864  480 > 483 486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   25.18  640 656 752 800  480 > 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0   28.32  720 738 846 900  400 > 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  135.00  1280 1296 1440 1688 > 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   78.75  1024 1040 1136 1312 > 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   75.00  1024 1048 1184 1328 > 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   65.00  1024 1048 1184 1344 > 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "832x624"x0.0   57.28  832 864 928 1152  624 > 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   49.50  800 816 896 1056  600 > 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   50.00  800 856 976 1040  600 > 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1152x864"x0.0  108.00  1152 1216 1344 1600 > 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x0.0  119.00  1680 1728 1760 1840 > 1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync (64.7 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  108.00  1280 1328 1440 1688 > 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1280x960"x0.0  108.00  1280 1376 1488 1800 > 960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) > (II) fglrx(0): Modeline "1152x864"x0.0  108.00  1152 1216 1344 1600 > 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) > > Which looks to me like the driver is repeatedly probing the display to > see what resolution it can manage. > > My xorg.conf is ... > > # xorg.conf.failsafe (X.Org X Window System server configuration file) > # > # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using > # values from the debconf database. > # > # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page. > # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) > # > # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* > # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg > # package. > # > # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated > # again, run the following command: > #   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg > > Section "ServerLayout" >        Identifier     "aticonfig Layout" >        Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" 0 0 > EndSection > > Section "Files" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > EndSection > > Section "ServerFlags" >        Option      "DontZap" "False" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" >        Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0" >        Option      "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver" >        Option      "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor" >        Option      "DPMS" "true" > EndSection > > Section "Device" >        Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0]-0" >        Driver      "fglrx" >        BusID       "PCI:1:0:0" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" >        Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" >        Device     "aticonfig-Device[0]-0" >        Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0" >        DefaultDepth     24 >        SubSection "Display" >                Viewport   0 0 >                Depth     24 >        EndSubSection > EndSection > > Any ideas anyone ? > > Cheers > > Dave > > > > > -- > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From lisi.reisz at gmail.com Thu May 7 07:13:47 2009 From: lisi.reisz at gmail.com (Lisi Reisz) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:13:47 +0100 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: <200905070001.16353.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> References: <200905070001.16353.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> Message-ID: <200905070813.47881.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> > > > ray burke wrote: > > > > lisi, > > > > > > > > what you mean "Yes, I would imagine that she does."?????????? > > > > > > it means: YES, click on the plain text tab and then see whether it > > > helps. Eberhard > You can still use the IRC channel for this kind of konversation > regards > irving For some meanings of can... Yes, it is permitted, but no I am not able to do so. I can neither type nor read fast enough to cope on IRC. Lisi From myriam at ubuntu.com Thu May 7 07:41:40 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:41:40 +0200 Subject: System settings > Desktop > Enable desktop effects causes fglrx to cycle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dave, On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 09:01, dave selby wrote: > Still having the same problem, in addition around one in every 5-10 > KDE starts, when the KDE startup screen has finished the screen goes > totally blank and even ctrl-alt-f1 does zip, I suspect this is the > display driver as well. You are lucky that you managed to start a desktop, for most people the fglrx driver just freezes the PC at KDM start. It does so for me, and I have the same graphic card than your wife's PC. > vanda at vanda-system:~$ sudo lshw | grep display -nA 10 > 96:           *-display > 97-                description: VGA compatible controller > 98-                product: RV635 PRO AGP [Radeon HD 3650] > 99-                vendor: ATI Technologies Inc > 100-                physical id: 0 > 101-                bus info: pci at 0000:01:00.0 > 102-                version: 00 > 103-                width: 32 bits > 104-                clock: 66MHz > 105-                capabilities: pm agp agp-3.0 bus_master cap_list > 106-                configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=255 > mingnt=8 module=fglrx > vanda at vanda-system:~$ > > Any ideas anyone ? Well, yes, see this bug report: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600 The only possibility is to use the free Radeon driver for now and either disable the desktop effects or only have a minimal set of effects by using the XRender compositing and wait till ATI provides a working fglrx driver :( Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From myriam at ubuntu.com Thu May 7 08:03:14 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:03:14 +0200 Subject: to update my kubuntu forum questions In-Reply-To: <200905070813.47881.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> References: <200905070001.16353.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> <200905070813.47881.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Lisi, On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 09:13, Lisi Reisz wrote: >On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 06:01, Irving Leonard wrote: >> >> You can still use the IRC channel for this kind of konversation >> regards >> irving > > For some meanings of can... Yes, it is permitted, but no I am not able to do > so. I can neither type nor read fast enough to cope on IRC. It's not as difficult as it seems, just keep one discussion thread by addressing people directly in #kubuntu, so you get highlighted when you are concerned. I usually tend to 'close eyes' on the other threads and it seems my way of filtering works for a lot of people. Sometimes just reading a few such addressed threads of others helps to get the 'filter' adjusted. Just don't try to read everything, this can be sometimes just too much information. Also, we try to 'discipline' people as much as possible to avoid OT and channel overload. And no one has to type fast, we try to adjust to the speed of the user :) A slower mode than IRC and even this mailing list would be to use a forum: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ http://www.kubuntuway.net/ or the KDE specific forums here: http://forum.kde.org/ Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 7 08:31:06 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <200905060723.20681.renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> <1241665519.29605.139.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: Ric Moore said: > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:23 -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: >> On Wednesday 06 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive >> from Jan Torben Heuer who wrote: >> >> > > I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I >> > > can't figure out how to do this in jaunty. >> > >> > For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. But >> > it is a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. >> > Nevertheless, the printer will appear in KDE, too. >> >> Install CUPS and do it through the web interface (http://localhost:631) >> >> > There ya go! Ric Eh? As I mentioned in the OP, I've tried :631. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 7 08:33:35 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: Message-ID: marc said: > Hi, > > I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I can't > figure out how to do this in jaunty. > > The docs say: > > http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch02s05.html > > Which is no help :-( > > System Setting has nothing in General, which seems weird to me, but > there is Printer Config in Advanced. > > However, Printer Config only offers options for New Network Printer, > which this isn't, or New Printer Class, which is a mystery. > > There's no option to a add local printer! > > Entering New Network Printer provides a bewildering set of options, but > there is Other. However, clicking this only provides the option to enter > the device URI! > > I've tried: > > http://localhost:631 > > I presume I need to "build" the URI somehow. Any ideas? So, is the net result of this thread, that it's impossible to print with a Canon Pixmar ip5300? Seems completely bizarre to me. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 7 08:37:58 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905040422w3c9c8425ld15cc0e565ce5ae@mail.gmail.com> <4A00BC17.9080006@gmail.com> <4A019CD3.9060501@gmail.com> Message-ID: D. R. Evans said: > marc said the following at 05/06/2009 12:58 AM : >> D. R. Evans said: >> >>> marc said the following at 05/04/2009 06:40 AM : >>> >>> >>>> Seems you can only apply "themes" now. For each widget you can choose >>>> your own "file", but there's no help, so I've no idea what those >>>> files are supposed to be. >>> Yep. Some time ago I filed a bug report requesting user-accessible >>> documentation on this very issue. >> >> Do you have a ref? >> >> > Not off the top of my head; if get a chance, I'll look later today. > > It would have been a wish and have the word "document" somewhere in the > title, so you could try looking for that yourself. > > Trouble is, I've filed so many reports and wishes in the past few months > that I can't keep track of them all in my head any more. If I'd known > I'd be filing so many, I'd have kept a little database here. You can look at your bug posting history in launchpad. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 7 08:54:56 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <200905052236.51921.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <200905062115.43820.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Mark Greenwood said: > marc wrote: >> That is, using the excuse that users claiming about the removal of >> features is a "fear of change". It's at best a non sequitur. > > That wasn't what I was arguing. Yes, complaining about removal of > features is perfectly valid; but using the argument that "it's not what > we're used to" is utterly stifling. How can progress ever occur if you > can't change what people are "used to"? You can provide new features while retaining the old. In business, where folk fear everything, it's the standard mo. >> > Arguments like that make progress and real innovation next to >> > impossible. Thinking like that creates stagnation. >> >> No. It's a failure of developers to understand the process of making >> change while keeping the train running and on the tracks. Usually, it's >> because the developers/architects don't have the necessary skills, >> and/or the imagination. > > But using that argument makes it impossible to remove any features You have to be very careful about doing this in case you alienate folk. Often it is not necessary; developers will try and do otherwise, because it means there is less maintenance overhead. But it's in no way "impossible". > or change any of the fundamental concepts. Software architecture is infinitely flexible. How you implement is your call. It's a choice, not a limitation. > Sometimes useful changes result from a complete shift of philosophy. But that's not how software evolves - unless you rewrite, which is possible without regression if you know what you are doing. > I'd much rather see that than the > endless, mind-numbingly tiny shifts in concept we see at the moment. Well, that's just poor development practices again. But frankly, I don't think we've seen much change. Mostly I see and experience a great deal of regression. It might be that the devs have improved the architecture that they're working with, but the fact that they seem to be struggling to implement and fix very basic features (e.g. sound and printing) indicates that that's not the case. So, a great new philosophy is fine in principle, but the devil is in the detail; the implementation in this case. -- Best, Marc From myriam at ubuntu.com Thu May 7 08:58:34 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:58:34 +0200 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Marc, On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:33, marc wrote: > marc said: > ... >> There's no option to a add local printer! >> >> Entering New Network Printer provides a bewildering set of options, but >> there is Other. However, clicking this only provides the option to enter >> the device URI! >> >> I've tried: >> >>   http://localhost:631 In admin mode I suppose? ... > So, is the net result of this thread, that it's impossible to print with > a Canon Pixmar ip5300? did you check this site: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP5300 for another driver eventually? > Seems completely bizarre to me. Well, there IS a bug in the printer configuration settings, as no local printer option is given, but if you can't even install it through localhost:631 there really is something strange. There have been some CUPS upgrades recently, maybe have a look on this side. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From multilingus at gmx.de Thu May 7 09:25:16 2009 From: multilingus at gmx.de (Mario Andes) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 11:25:16 +0200 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everybody, not only the Canon-PIXMA_iP5300 doesn't work with 9.04! My Brother 5150D worked sometimes with 8.04 and Turboprint (some pages). After restarting the system even turboprint could do it again! B.t.w. it's somewhat bizar to have to BUY a print prog. Everybody needs to print. I'll have to wait for the next (K)ubuntu-version or even longer! A good OS should offer these facilities! The only reason why W.. occupies 2/3 of my HD. Only for PRINTING! Mario On Thu, 07 May 2009 10:58:34 +0200, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Marc, > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:33, marc wrote: >> marc said: >> > ... >>> There's no option to a add local printer! >>> >>> Entering New Network Printer provides a bewildering set of options, but >>> there is Other. However, clicking this only provides the option to >>> enter >>> the device URI! >>> >>> I've tried: >>> >>> http://localhost:631 > > In admin mode I suppose? > > ... >> So, is the net result of this thread, that it's impossible to print with >> a Canon Pixmar ip5300? > > did you check this site: > > http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP5300 > > for another driver eventually? > >> Seems completely bizarre to me. > > Well, there IS a bug in the printer configuration settings, as no > local printer option is given, but if you can't even install it > through localhost:631 there really is something strange. There have > been some CUPS upgrades recently, maybe have a look on this side. > > > Regards, Myriam. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: Opera 10.00 Turbo Internal Build 4214 Kubuntu 9.04 RC System i686, 2.6.28-11-generic http://www.opera.com/ From tanghus at gmail.com Thu May 7 09:30:17 2009 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:30:17 +0200 Subject: Plasma question In-Reply-To: <8abf83c20905061936g4ed830adt6b320257f9895da9@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> <8abf83c20905061936g4ed830adt6b320257f9895da9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905071130.17736.tanghus@gmail.com> On Thursday 07 May 2009 04:36:42 Sascha Güthling wrote: > 2009/5/6 Thomas Olsen : > > Hi > > > > I have a question from me as a total newbie as a Plasma user. How do you > > actually move the widgets on the panel? > > > > -- > > Hi Thomas, > > When you move your mouse pointer over a widget a black box should > appear right or left of it. You can click and hold into that box (not > on the little buttons) and drag it to wherever you want. > If the box doesn't appear you have locked the widgets. Click on the > widget control thingy (what's the name of that thing anyways) in the > upper right corner of the screen and unlock them. > > Cheers > Sascha Hi again No such box appeared when I tried but I just accidently found out the if I open the settings for the panel - using the cashew on the panel - a crosshair point appears when I hover the widgets. Thanks anyway -- Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Til uvedkommende, der læser med: Der er ingen grund til at læse min mail. Jeg har intet at gøre med FARC, al-Jihad, al-Qaida, Hamas, Hizb al-Mujahidin eller ETA. Jeg har aldrig gjort Zakat, går ikke ind for Istishad, har ikke lavet en bilbombe eller kernevåben og jeg ved dårligt nok, hvad Al Manar og бомба betyder. 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Emil From tanghus at gmail.com Thu May 7 09:38:23 2009 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:38:23 +0200 Subject: Plasma question In-Reply-To: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905071138.23707.tanghus@gmail.com> On Wednesday 06 May 2009 20:51:26 Thomas Olsen wrote: > Hi > > I have a question from me as a total newbie as a Plasma user. How do you > actually move the widgets on the panel? With that solved I have another question: How do you add application shortcut on the panel just like in 3.5.x? Maybe it's because I have the flu and running a fever but it seems very confusing much of this Plasma stuff... -- Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Til uvedkommende, der læser med: Der er ingen grund til at læse min mail. Jeg har intet at gøre med FARC, al-Jihad, al-Qaida, Hamas, Hizb al-Mujahidin eller ETA. Jeg har aldrig gjort Zakat, går ikke ind for Istishad, har ikke lavet en bilbombe eller kernevåben og jeg ved dårligt nok, hvad Al Manar og бомба betyder. Men tak for den udviste interesse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lisi.reisz at gmail.com Thu May 7 10:11:48 2009 From: lisi.reisz at gmail.com (Lisi Reisz) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:11:48 +0100 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: <1241665519.29605.139.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200905071111.49026.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> On Thursday 07 May 2009 09:31:06 marc wrote: > Ric Moore said: > > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:23 -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > >> On Wednesday 06 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive > >> > >> from Jan Torben Heuer who wrote: > >> > > I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. I > >> > > can't figure out how to do this in jaunty. > >> > > >> > For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. But > >> > it is a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. > >> > Nevertheless, the printer will appear in KDE, too. > >> > >> Install CUPS and do it through the web interface (http://localhost:631) > > > > There ya go! Ric > > Eh? As I mentioned in the OP, I've tried :631. Yes, but have you installed CUPS? That is essential if you want to use it!! Lisi From art.alexion at gmail.com Thu May 7 10:12:45 2009 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 06:12:45 -0400 Subject: bluetooth and palm TX In-Reply-To: <4A02AAA1.4070906@angelwoodpines.org> References: <4A02AAA1.4070906@angelwoodpines.org> Message-ID: <9AEF5822-4BEF-4EB5-B375-281051A6909E@gmail.com> I played with this as well. May have been using Intrepid or even Hardy at the time. Could push files to Palm from desktop, but could not browse palm from desktop. Also recall that I could only push to Palm internal memory, not to SD. Only played with it for a half hour or so. I was mainly interested in getting photos out of the Palm without a cable. -- Art Alexion Sent unsigned from an iPod. That's the reason for the top posting as well. On May 7, 2009, at 5:32 AM, Emil Payne wrote: > OK, I have Ubuntu 9.04 running. I have a Kensington Bluetooth dongle. > I have the bluetooth icon on my panel. Using the icon, I CAN send > files > TO the palm. But, when I try to connect from the palm, I always get > the > following error: > > Unable to initiate hotsync operation because the port is in use by > another application. > > What can I do to find out what is using the port, or otherwise fix > this > problem? > > Emil > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Thu May 7 10:58:55 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:58:55 -0300 Subject: Anybody having issues updating libqtgui4 on Jaunty? In-Reply-To: References: <4A026098.9050105@cmosnetworks.com> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905070358g7290be3fg7e70b83164abda37@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 03:46, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Terrell, > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 06:16, Terrell Prude' Jr. > wrote: >> I just did apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade, and I'm seeing >> the following messages. >> >> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 >> 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] > ... >> ...and it keeps going just like this.  Eventually I get a "Hash Sum >> Mismatch" error, and the update does not proceed.  I've also tried >> "apt-get dist-upgrade", which also updates the kernel packages, and I >> see the same thing. > > Once you are on Jaunty, no need to do 'dist-upgrade' again, this will > not change anything. It used to be the case where aptitude upgrade wouldn't get kernel updates, but dist-upgrade did. This is not the case anymore? > Are you sure you need the 'proposed' repository? This makes sense only > if you carefully choose what you are going to upgrade (idem for all > other 'non-standard' repositories). Just doing sudo apt-get upgrade > without choosing can easily get you in trouble with package conflicts. > > From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Thu May 7 11:02:56 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:02:56 -0300 Subject: KDE4 unusefull in a toshiba satellite A70 In-Reply-To: References: <200905070039.20387.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905070402o6874831fxf97ec814f18f1a57@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 03:52, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Irving, > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 06:39, Irving Leonard > wrote: >> I have a Toshiba Satellite A70, that have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000IGP and >> the default kubuntu install give me a system with few visual effects and a lot >> of CPU utilization. > > I guess it's Xorg that eats up the CPU, likely because of the buggy > fglrx driver in Jaunty. You might be better off with the radeon driver > instead. He is probably not using the fglrx driver since it does not support the 9000IGP he has. >> Disabling the desktop effects gives very small improve but >> still huge CPU load; over 70% and just hovering over emails in kmail, with >> kontact using +30% and xorg +40%. > > What power does your laptop have? Please give the CPU and the amount > of RAM. If you have less than 512 MB of RAM you should consider using > another desktop like Xubuntu. CPU and RAM are factors that should be take in account before bashing the desktop, or even suggesting you to migrate to Xubuntu and the like. As Miryan suggested, post your specfication so we can give more educated guesses. Cheers From guethling at googlemail.com Thu May 7 11:40:02 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:40:02 -0400 Subject: Plasma question In-Reply-To: <200905071138.23707.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> <200905071138.23707.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8abf83c20905070440t43e23193kb65e41920cb1bd50@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Wednesday 06 May 2009 20:51:26 Thomas Olsen wrote: >> Hi >> >> I have a question from me as a total newbie as a Plasma user. How do you >> actually move the widgets on the panel? > > With that solved I have another question: How do you add application > shortcut on the panel just like in 3.5.x? > Maybe it's because I have the flu and running a fever but it seems very > confusing much of this Plasma stuff... > > -- > Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen > > Thomas Olsen > > Til uvedkommende, der læser med: Der er ingen grund til at læse min mail. > Jeg har intet at gøre med FARC, al-Jihad, al-Qaida, Hamas, Hizb al-Mujahidin > eller ETA. > Jeg har aldrig gjort Zakat, går ikke ind for Istishad, har ikke lavet en > bilbombe eller kernevåben og jeg ved dårligt nok, hvad Al Manar og бомба > betyder. > Men tak for den udviste interesse First you need to add the Quicklaunch widget to the panel, if not already done. Now you can open the Application Launcher (K-Menu) and drag your application to the Quicklaunch widget. If you want to remove one you just right-click on it and select Remove this Icon. Cheers Sascha From microman at cmosnetworks.com Thu May 7 12:29:31 2009 From: microman at cmosnetworks.com (Terrell Prude' Jr.) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:29:31 -0400 Subject: Anybody having issues updating libqtgui4 on Jaunty? In-Reply-To: References: <4A026098.9050105@cmosnetworks.com> Message-ID: <4A02D42B.6060201@cmosnetworks.com> Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Terrell, > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 06:16, Terrell Prude' Jr. > wrote: > >> I just did apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade, and I'm seeing >> the following messages. >> >> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 >> 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] >> > ... > >> ...and it keeps going just like this. Eventually I get a "Hash Sum >> Mismatch" error, and the update does not proceed. I've also tried >> "apt-get dist-upgrade", which also updates the kernel packages, and I >> see the same thing. >> > > Once you are on Jaunty, no need to do 'dist-upgrade' again, this will > not change anything. > Hmm...my observation is somewhat different in this case. If I don't do "dist-upgrade", then the kernel updates get skipped, even with Jaunty. > Are you sure you need the 'proposed' repository? This makes sense only > if you carefully choose what you are going to upgrade (idem for all > other 'non-standard' repositories). Just doing sudo apt-get upgrade > without choosing can easily get you in trouble with package conflicts. > The 'proposed' repository was included when I did the upgrade from Intrepid. However, I had included the repository on Intrepid that let me install KDE 4.2.2, so that might be why 'jaunty-proposed' is also included. Is that how it works? I'll try disabling it when I get to work this afternoon if the problem persists. Thanks! --TP From grey at dmiyu.org Thu May 7 12:31:10 2009 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 05:31:10 -0700 Subject: Per Recipient GPG settings? Message-ID: <200905070531.14732.grey@dmiyu.org> Well, I've mostly switched from TBird to KMail. I miss having two connections to my IMAP server. I also cannot seem to find a way to create per recipient GPG rules so I don't sign messages to mailing lists that can't handle MIME. I know the former is not addressable easily. Am I missing something on the latter? -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they dream PGP Key: 1FC01004 | and dream I do -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From 4cqncnl7 at acme.softbase.org Thu May 7 12:34:58 2009 From: 4cqncnl7 at acme.softbase.org (Wolfgang Jeltsch) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:34:58 +0200 Subject: fglrx and KDE Message-ID: <200905071434.58425.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> Hello, I use Kubuntu Jaunty with the open source radeon driver. My graphics chip is (most likely) an RS480. KDE’s desktop effects aren’t smooth with this setup. However, desktop effects worked quite well when I used Ubuntu Intrepid with Compiz Fusion and the proprietary fglrx driver. I’ve heard that 3D performance is better with the fglrx driver. So I wonder if the performance problems have to do with KDE or with the open source driver. Has anyone experiences with KDE vs. GNOME/Compiz Fusion and radeon vs. fglrx? Furthermore, I’ve heard that X.org 1.6 won’t come with an fglrx driver that works with older chips (like, e.g, my RS480). Is this true? Best wishes, Wolfgang From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Thu May 7 12:43:01 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:43:01 -0300 Subject: Anybody having issues updating libqtgui4 on Jaunty? In-Reply-To: <4A02D42B.6060201@cmosnetworks.com> References: <4A026098.9050105@cmosnetworks.com> <4A02D42B.6060201@cmosnetworks.com> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905070543q57292e3fvdf20a0c0074e5c93@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 09:29, Terrell Prude' Jr. wrote: > > > Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >> Hi Terrell, >> >> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 06:16, Terrell Prude' Jr. >> wrote: >> >>> I just did apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade, and I'm seeing >>> the following messages. >>> >>> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 >>> 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] >>> >> ... >> >>> ...and it keeps going just like this.  Eventually I get a "Hash Sum >>> Mismatch" error, and the update does not proceed.  I've also tried >>> "apt-get dist-upgrade", which also updates the kernel packages, and I >>> see the same thing. >>> >> >> Once you are on Jaunty, no need to do 'dist-upgrade' again, this will >> not change anything. >> > > Hmm...my observation is somewhat different in this case.  If I don't do > "dist-upgrade", then the kernel updates get skipped, even with Jaunty. > >> Are you sure you need the 'proposed' repository? This makes sense only >> if you carefully choose what you are going to upgrade (idem for all >> other 'non-standard' repositories). Just doing sudo apt-get upgrade >> without choosing can easily get you in trouble with package conflicts. >> > > The 'proposed' repository was included when I did the upgrade from > Intrepid.  However, I had included the repository on Intrepid that let > me install KDE 4.2.2, so that might be why 'jaunty-proposed' is also > included.  Is that how it works? Yeaps. The upgrade process try to keep all your repositories while migrating everything from intrepid to jaunty. > I'll try disabling it when I get to work this afternoon if the problem > persists. > > Thanks! From claydoh at midmaine.com Thu May 7 13:03:59 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (clay weber) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 09:03:59 -0400 Subject: fglrx and KDE In-Reply-To: <200905071434.58425.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> References: <200905071434.58425.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> Message-ID: <4A02DC3F.9010705@midmaine.com> Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > Hello, > > I use Kubuntu Jaunty with the open source radeon driver. My graphics chip is > (most likely) an RS480. > > KDE’s desktop effects aren’t smooth with this setup. However, desktop effects > worked quite well when I used Ubuntu Intrepid with Compiz Fusion and the > proprietary fglrx driver. I’ve heard that 3D performance is better with the > fglrx driver. So I wonder if the performance problems have to do with KDE or > with the open source driver. Has anyone experiences with KDE vs. > GNOME/Compiz Fusion and radeon vs. fglrx? > > Furthermore, I’ve heard that X.org 1.6 won’t come with an fglrx driver that > works with older chips (like, e.g, my RS480). Is this true? > > Best wishes, > Wolfgang > The older versions of fglrx do not work with Xorg 1.6. There is a compatible fglrx driver available from the repos, I am using it with my Radeon HD 3200. But that driver does not support some (not very) older cards anymore. If your card is not supported by the new fglrx driver, you can read here for some info on the ati/radeon driver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver Specifically the links at the bottom have some good info for xorg tweaks for the closed source driver. Clay Weber From jtnews at mail2004.dnsalias.org Thu May 7 13:07:22 2009 From: jtnews at mail2004.dnsalias.org (Jan Torben Heuer) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:07:22 +0200 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: Message-ID: marc wrote: > $ system-config-printer > > This self-discovered the printer, via samba! > > However, when I try to print, I get: > > Tree connect failed (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED) > > When did printing become this hard! ehm - you got a USB printer via SAMBA? Something is wrong in your setup ;-) Jan From tanghus at gmail.com Thu May 7 13:09:49 2009 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 15:09:49 +0200 Subject: Plasma question In-Reply-To: <8abf83c20905070440t43e23193kb65e41920cb1bd50@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> <200905071138.23707.tanghus@gmail.com> <8abf83c20905070440t43e23193kb65e41920cb1bd50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905071509.50220.tanghus@gmail.com> On Thursday 07 May 2009 13:40:02 Sascha Güthling wrote: > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > > > > With that solved I have another question: How do you add application > > shortcut on the panel just like in 3.5.x? > > Maybe it's because I have the flu and running a fever but it seems very > > confusing much of this Plasma stuff... > > > > -- > > Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen > > > > Thomas Olsen > > > > First you need to add the Quicklaunch widget to the panel, if not > already done. Now you can open the Application Launcher (K-Menu) and > drag your application to the Quicklaunch widget. > If you want to remove one you just right-click on it and select Remove > this Icon. > > Cheers > Sascha Hi Sascha Thanks for the help. I must say it's not very intuitive mainly because neither the quicklauncher nor the apps in it have any tools to indicate what app it is. But I got it working now - thanks again. -- Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Til uvedkommende, der læser med: Der er ingen grund til at læse min mail. Jeg har intet at gøre med FARC, al-Jihad, al-Qaida, Hamas, Hizb al-Mujahidin eller ETA. Jeg har aldrig gjort Zakat, går ikke ind for Istishad, har ikke lavet en bilbombe eller kernevåben og jeg ved dårligt nok, hvad Al Manar og бомба betyder. Men tak for den udviste interesse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Has anyone > > experiences with KDE vs. GNOME/Compiz Fusion and radeon vs. fglrx? > > > > Furthermore, I’ve heard that X.org 1.6 won’t come with an fglrx driver > > that works with older chips (like, e.g, my RS480). Is this true? > > > > Best wishes, > > Wolfgang > > The older versions of fglrx do not work with Xorg 1.6. There is a > compatible fglrx driver available from the repos, I am using it with my > Radeon HD 3200. But that driver does not support some (not very) older > cards anymore. > > If your card is not supported by the new fglrx driver, you can read here > for some info on the ati/radeon driver: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver > > Specifically the links at the bottom have some good info for xorg tweaks > for the closed source driver. > > Clay Weber Hello, thank you for your info. The page, you mentioned, says: “This driver is not as fast as the closed-source, proprietary "fglrx" driver from AMD/ATI Inc.” This is, of course, not very specific. Are there any benchmarks? Should the open source driver be okay for desktop effects or is it likely that it won’t even be able to make desktop effects smooth? Regarding the “Tweaking The Driver” section: The EnablePageFlip option should cause a speedup but only works with XAA. However, switching from XAA to EXA also speeds things up. What is usually faster: XAA + EnablePageFlip or EXA? If I understand the section correctly, option TripleBuffer only helps when playing videos, so it doesn’t help speeding up pure desktop effects. Is this true? I’ve also already seen pages which suggest to use certain undocumented options. Is there some documentation about these undocumented options (actually a contradiction in itself :-( ) somewhere on the web? Is there a more comprehensive howto about speeding up desktop effects etc.? Best wishes, Wolfgang From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Thu May 7 13:53:18 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:53:18 -0300 Subject: fglrx and KDE In-Reply-To: <200905071542.29865.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> References: <200905071434.58425.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> <4A02DC3F.9010705@midmaine.com> <200905071542.29865.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905070653o3d61c32cx4f431e6a95b689c9@mail.gmail.com> Hey Wolfgan, On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:42, Wolfgang Jeltsch <4cqncnl7 at acme.softbase.org> wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2009 15:03 schrieb clay weber: >> Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > I use Kubuntu Jaunty with the open source radeon driver. My graphics chip >> > is (most likely) an RS480. >> > >> > KDE’s desktop effects aren’t smooth with this setup. However, desktop >> > effects worked quite well when I used Ubuntu Intrepid with Compiz Fusion >> > and the proprietary fglrx driver. I’ve heard that 3D performance is >> > better with the fglrx driver. So I wonder if the performance problems >> > have to do with KDE or with the open source driver. Has anyone >> > experiences with KDE vs. GNOME/Compiz Fusion and radeon vs. fglrx? >> > >> > Furthermore, I’ve heard that X.org 1.6 won’t come with an fglrx driver >> > that works with older chips (like, e.g, my RS480). Is this true? >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > Wolfgang >> >> The older versions of fglrx do not work with Xorg 1.6. There is a >> compatible fglrx driver available from the repos, I am using it with my >> Radeon HD 3200. But that driver does not support some (not very) older >> cards anymore. >> >> If your card is not supported by the new fglrx driver, you can read here >> for some info on the ati/radeon driver: >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver >> >> Specifically the links at the bottom have some good info for xorg tweaks >> for the closed source driver. >> >> Clay Weber > > Hello, > > thank you for your info. > > The page, you mentioned, says: “This driver is not as fast as the > closed-source, proprietary "fglrx" driver from AMD/ATI Inc.” This is, of > course, not very specific. Are there any benchmarks? Should the open source > driver be okay for desktop effects or is it likely that it won’t even be able > to make desktop effects smooth? I've an RS482 (Radeon XPress 200M), and with Jaunty everything works fine with KDE 4.2 and Jaunty. I've effects anabled and I see no slowdown at all (just some increase in memory usage, but this is expected). Also, I've nothing set on my xorg.conf, Xorg automatically detects the optmial settings for me :) Also, the page you have been pointed too might be a little outdated, to see all the current supported options take a look at the manual page of radeon (man radeon). Hope this helps. > > Regarding the “Tweaking The Driver” section: The EnablePageFlip option should > cause a speedup but only works with XAA. However, switching from XAA to EXA > also speeds things up. What is usually faster: XAA + EnablePageFlip or EXA? > If I understand the section correctly, option TripleBuffer only helps when > playing videos, so it doesn’t help speeding up pure desktop effects. Is this > true? > > I’ve also already seen pages which suggest to use certain undocumented > options. Is there some documentation about these undocumented options > (actually a contradiction in itself :-( ) somewhere on the web? Is there a > more comprehensive howto about speeding up desktop effects etc.? > > Best wishes, > Wolfgang From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu May 7 14:20:27 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:20:27 -0400 Subject: Plasma question In-Reply-To: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905071020.27333.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Wednesday 06 May 2009 02:51:26 pm Thomas Olsen wrote: > Hi > > I have a question from me as a total newbie as a Plasma user. How do you > actually move the widgets on the panel? First right-click on the panel>click on the small cashew>Unlock wigets>move cursor to where it says screen edge and it changes to a move-cursor. Simply locate the icon you want to move, left-click and drag it to where you want it to be, and release your left-click; then lock widgets and you are good to go. Steven From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu May 7 14:51:38 2009 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 17:51:38 +0300 Subject: Jaunty users: please triage In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00904260935y76072bcdt9a2f73e0ba9981e4@mail.gmail.com> <4912053.BLlFxDnEl9@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00904271048ke2301fax30043454937fd4e8@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00904271110i62d0d865i85e019db895db2f4@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00904271525t3ea4a74em18bd237ef33e81fc@mail.gmail.com> <49F68AA3.5020905@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <880dece00905070751l45151824w14d2329174efcee@mail.gmail.com> > I've always used krusader in kde, but I'm using it a lot less with the > more grown-up dolphin. I definitely need the ability to launch a console > from a pane. View -> Panels -> Terminal That's it, Dolphin has replaced Konqueror for me! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu May 7 15:00:39 2009 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:00:39 -0500 Subject: Plasma question In-Reply-To: References: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> <8abf83c20905061936g4ed830adt6b320257f9895da9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A02F797.5060209@swbell.net> Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Sascha, > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 04:36, Sascha Güthling wrote: > >> 2009/5/6 Thomas Olsen : >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I have a question from me as a total newbie as a Plasma user. How do you >>> actually move the widgets on the panel? >>> >> When you move your mouse pointer over a widget a black box should >> appear right or left of it. >> > > Not in the panel, only on the desktop... > > >> Click on the widget control thingy (what's the name of that thing anyways) in the upper right corner of the screen and unlock them. >> > > The 'thingy' is called the 'cashew', mostly because of its form :) > > > Regards, Myriam. > > The issue of the OP seems to have been resolved so I'll ask: What if you don't have a "cashew" on your desktop? When I installed 8.10 and again with 9.04 it has disappeared. I've lost my nut [ although technically a cashew is not a nut ]. -- Treat all stressful situations like a dog does. If you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away From 4cqncnl7 at acme.softbase.org Thu May 7 15:04:44 2009 From: 4cqncnl7 at acme.softbase.org (Wolfgang Jeltsch) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 17:04:44 +0200 Subject: fglrx and KDE In-Reply-To: <4c6e034d0905070653o3d61c32cx4f431e6a95b689c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905071434.58425.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> <200905071542.29865.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> <4c6e034d0905070653o3d61c32cx4f431e6a95b689c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905071704.44709.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> Am Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2009 15:53 schrieb Antonio Augusto (Mancha): > I've an RS482 (Radeon XPress 200M), Hah, probably the same thing, I have. :-) > and with Jaunty everything works fine with KDE 4.2 and Jaunty. > I've effects anabled and I see no slowdown at all (just some increase > in memory usage, but this is expected). How much video RAM do you have? > Also, I've nothing set on my xorg.conf, Xorg automatically detects the > optmial settings for me :) I have now the following in xorg.conf: Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" Option "EnablePageFlip" "true" Option "TripleBuffer" "true" In addition, I have set “Keep window thumbnails” to “Always” in System Settings. It seems as if desktop effects are much more smooth now. However, there is an interesting effect: If some “animation” is not so smooth and I exactly repeat it then it is much smoother the second time. An example: I move the mouse into the top left corner. An overview of all windows appears. I click on some window. The window moves into the foreground but not smoothly. I move the mouse to the top left corner a second time and click on the same window. Now, the animation is smooth. If I had clicked on a different window, it wouldn’t have been smooth. Has anyone an idea why this is? Does KWin or some other component cache animations? > Also, the page you have been pointed too might be a little outdated, > to see all the current supported options take a look at the manual > page of radeon (man radeon). Okay, I’ll have a look. However, the man page won’t tell me the undocumented options. ;-) > Hope this helps. Thank you for your answer. Best wishes, Wolfgang From irving.lp at feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu Thu May 7 15:34:20 2009 From: irving.lp at feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu (Irving Leonard) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:34:20 -0400 Subject: KDE4 unusefull in a toshiba satellite A70 In-Reply-To: <4c6e034d0905070402o6874831fxf97ec814f18f1a57@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905070039.20387.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> <4c6e034d0905070402o6874831fxf97ec814f18f1a57@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905071134.21269.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> On Jueves 07 Mayo 2009 07:02:56 AM Antonio Augusto (Mancha) escribió: > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 03:52, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > > Hi Irving, > > > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 06:39, Irving Leonard > > > > wrote: > >> I have a Toshiba Satellite A70, that have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000IGP > >> and the default kubuntu install give me a system with few visual effects > >> and a lot of CPU utilization. > > > > I guess it's Xorg that eats up the CPU, likely because of the buggy > > fglrx driver in Jaunty. You might be better off with the radeon driver > > instead. > > He is probably not using the fglrx driver since it does not support > the 9000IGP he has. No I don't, the default installation (without me changing things) came with the radeon driver enabled and direct rendering (checked with glxinfo). > > >> Disabling the desktop effects gives very small improve but > >> still huge CPU load; over 70% and just hovering over emails in kmail, > >> with kontact using +30% and xorg +40%. > > > > What power does your laptop have? Please give the CPU and the amount > > of RAM. If you have less than 512 MB of RAM you should consider using > > another desktop like Xubuntu. > > CPU and RAM are factors that should be take in account before bashing > the desktop, or even suggesting you to migrate to Xubuntu and the > like. > As Miryan suggested, post your specfication so we can give more > educated guesses. > This is the PSA70C-DD100E model (http://www.toshiba.ca/web/product.grp?lg=en§ion=1&group=223&product=3150&part=2631#spectop) it has a Celeron D 335 @ 2.8GHz 256KB L2, 512MB RAM - 64MB for Video; as I said ATI Mobility Radeon 9000IGP (missdetected by ubuntu as 9100IGP), original BIOS. I had hardy for over a year and it worked almost perfect, I can't see that resource needs of jaunty (kde4). Also, as I lately said, a friend of mine have the same software configuration on a dell inspiron 1300, that is very similar to this one, maybe the main diferences are that he has a pentium CPU and intel graphics, and works great. The RAM is not the main reason because I use almost no swap, the CPU utilization doesn't goes with the swap utilization, so I think is not the RAM. regards irving VI Conferencia Internacional de Energía Renovable, Ahorro de Energía y Educación Energética 9 - 12 de Junio 2009, Palacio de las Convenciones ...Por una cultura energética sustentable www.ciercuba.com From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 7 15:53:53 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 15:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty users: please triage References: <880dece00904260935y76072bcdt9a2f73e0ba9981e4@mail.gmail.com> <4912053.BLlFxDnEl9@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00904271048ke2301fax30043454937fd4e8@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00904271110i62d0d865i85e019db895db2f4@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00904271525t3ea4a74em18bd237ef33e81fc@mail.gmail.com> <49F68AA3.5020905@earthlink.net> <880dece00905070751l45151824w14d2329174efcee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dotan Cohen said: >> I've always used krusader in kde, but I'm using it a lot less with the >> more grown-up dolphin. I definitely need the ability to launch a >> console from a pane. > > View -> Panels -> Terminal > > That's it, Dolphin has replaced Konqueror for me! Or F4. But nope, as I explained, I need to launch a konsole process. Embedding it is of very limited use. It also has some nasty behaviour. Try cd'ing with a process running. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 7 16:01:39 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <1241665519.29605.139.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <200905071111.49026.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> Message-ID: Lisi Reisz said: > On Thursday 07 May 2009 09:31:06 marc wrote: >> Ric Moore said: >> > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:23 -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: >> >> On Wednesday 06 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive >> >> >> >> from Jan Torben Heuer who wrote: >> >> > > I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. >> >> > > I can't figure out how to do this in jaunty. >> >> > >> >> > For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. >> >> > But it is a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. >> >> > Nevertheless, the printer will appear in KDE, too. >> >> >> >> Install CUPS and do it through the web interface >> >> (http://localhost:631) >> > >> > There ya go! Ric >> >> Eh? As I mentioned in the OP, I've tried :631. > > Yes, but have you installed CUPS? That is essential if you want to use > it!! I don't remember doing so, but it is installed. I also presumed that since I was using a working front end to it, :631, that it was installed! Is my logic skewed somehow? -- Best, Marc From derek at pointerstop.ca Thu May 7 15:31:47 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:31:47 -0300 Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> <200905052236.51921.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <200905062115.43820.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <3gbbd6-aug.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> Mark Greenwood wrote: > That wasn't what I was arguing. Yes, complaining about removal of features > is perfectly valid; but using the argument that "it's not what we're used > to" is utterly stifling. Except that nobody (especially me) argued that... -- derek From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 7 16:05:28 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: Message-ID: Myriam Schweingruber said: > Hi Marc, > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:33, marc wrote: >> marc said: >> > ... >>> There's no option to a add local printer! >>> >>> Entering New Network Printer provides a bewildering set of options, >>> but there is Other. However, clicking this only provides the option to >>> enter the device URI! >>> >>> I've tried: >>> >>>   http://localhost:631 > > In admin mode I suppose? > > ... >> So, is the net result of this thread, that it's impossible to print >> with a Canon Pixmar ip5300? > > did you check this site: > > http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP5300 > > for another driver eventually? > >> Seems completely bizarre to me. > > Well, there IS a bug in the printer configuration settings, as no local > printer option is given, but if you can't even install it through > localhost:631 there really is something strange. There have been some > CUPS upgrades recently, maybe have a look on this side. I can install the drivers - at least, I assume that's what it's doing when I select the printer model, by name, from the list - but nothing prints. I'm not surprised, as I'm sure the UI is wrong. And I believe that this problem i a Kubuntu isssue. The problem is that there's nothing to inform me what the URI should be. I have no idea, as I very, very rarely print - I have a strict (as possible) no paper policy. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 7 16:07:28 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: Message-ID: Jan Torben Heuer said: > marc wrote: > >> $ system-config-printer >> >> This self-discovered the printer, via samba! >> >> However, when I try to print, I get: >> >> Tree connect failed (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED) >> >> When did printing become this hard! > > ehm - you got a USB printer via SAMBA? Something is wrong in your setup > ;-) At present, I'd wager that something is wrong with Kubuntu! But if you can give an explanation, rather than a spurious comment, then I'll happily investigate. -- Best, Marc From paulatgm at gmail.com Thu May 7 16:27:44 2009 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:27:44 -0400 Subject: Network problems on resume In-Reply-To: <200905062332.17763.crisnoh@gmail.com> References: <200905062332.17763.crisnoh@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A030C00.9020907@gmail.com> Cristopher Thomas said the following on 05/06/2009 11:31 PM: > When I resume from suspend or hibernate networkmanager applet reconnects > to my wireless network just fine, but I can't access the internet. I have to > reboot in order to get my internet connection back. Does anyone have any idea > what might be causing this? Somethings not resuming properly, and it's difficult / impossible to find out what. You may be able to just suspend / resume again to fix it. If it's just the network, you might be able to just disable / enable it in network manager to get it to run dhcp again. Also, running "sudo dhclient" in konsole might work. These don't fix the problem, but probably are quicker than rebooting. hth From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu May 7 16:57:40 2009 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: No wireless in intrepid Message-ID: <1078231390.5733651241715460959.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I did a clean install of Kubuntu 9.04 and, despite trying the Network-Manager plasmoid, wicd and knetwork-manager, I am unable to connect to my home wireless router using WPA. All the apps timeout when trying to logon to the router. The hardware worked fine using 8.10. I saw this as a "known issue" on the annoucement page, but is there a known fix for this? Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Crawford (rscrawford at mossroot.com) http://www.mossroot.com Publisher and Editor in Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu May 7 17:04:51 2009 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:04:51 +0300 Subject: Jaunty users: please triage In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00904260935y76072bcdt9a2f73e0ba9981e4@mail.gmail.com> <4912053.BLlFxDnEl9@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00904271048ke2301fax30043454937fd4e8@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00904271110i62d0d865i85e019db895db2f4@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00904271525t3ea4a74em18bd237ef33e81fc@mail.gmail.com> <49F68AA3.5020905@earthlink.net> <880dece00905070751l45151824w14d2329174efcee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00905071004k644e5f2yf940693c37652cb4@mail.gmail.com> > Or F4. But nope, as I explained, I need to launch a konsole process. > Embedding it is of very limited use. It also has some nasty behaviour. > Try cd'ing with a process running. > Please add details as to why the embedded terminal is not suitable here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191931 Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Thu May 7 17:15:27 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:15:27 -0300 Subject: fglrx and KDE In-Reply-To: <200905071704.44709.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> References: <200905071434.58425.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> <200905071542.29865.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> <4c6e034d0905070653o3d61c32cx4f431e6a95b689c9@mail.gmail.com> <200905071704.44709.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905071015n6cf8630dh9138678e083b0dfe@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:04, Wolfgang Jeltsch <4cqncnl7 at acme.softbase.org> wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2009 15:53 schrieb Antonio Augusto (Mancha): >> I've an RS482 (Radeon XPress 200M), > > Hah, probably the same thing, I have. :-) > >> and with Jaunty everything works fine with KDE 4.2 and Jaunty. >> I've effects anabled and I see no slowdown at all (just some increase >> in memory usage, but this is expected). > > How much video RAM do you have? 128Mb shared. My system has a total of 2Gb, so only about 1,8 is available to the system (the rest being used by the video card). Whats your spec? > >> Also, I've nothing set on my xorg.conf, Xorg automatically detects the >> optmial settings for me :) > > I have now the following in xorg.conf: > >        Option  "AccelMethod" "XAA" >        Option  "EnablePageFlip" "true" >        Option  "TripleBuffer" "true" > > In addition, I have set “Keep window thumbnails” to “Always” in System > Settings. It seems as if desktop effects are much more smooth now. > > However, there is an interesting effect: If some “animation” is not so smooth > and I exactly repeat it then it is much smoother the second time. An example: > I move the mouse into the top left corner. An overview of all windows > appears. I click on some window. The window moves into the foreground but not > smoothly. I move the mouse to the top left corner a second time and click on > the same window. Now, the animation is smooth. If I had clicked on a > different window, it wouldn’t have been smooth. > > Has anyone an idea why this is? Does KWin or some other component cache > animations? Probably it has some caching of the "known" images, so it doesn't have to re-render the image all the time. I don't know why, but I've always supposed that “Keep window thumbnails” to “Always” would slow things down on not-so-high-end systems. For what I know, you are telling KWin to keep a cache of all windows you have open. This will speed things up if you have enough memory, if you don't its a waste (for what i know). Then again, I dunno what can be considered "enough memory" for Kwin :) > >> Also, the page you have been pointed too might be a little outdated, >> to see all the current supported options take a look at the manual >> page of radeon (man radeon). > > Okay, I’ll have a look. However, the man page won’t tell me the undocumented > options. ;-) > >> Hope this helps. > > Thank you for your answer. my pleasure. > > Best wishes, > Wolfgang > Cheers. From debianrob at poncacity.net Thu May 7 17:36:14 2009 From: debianrob at poncacity.net (Rob Wright) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:36:14 -0500 Subject: Update to Jaunty and KDE4 Message-ID: <200905071236.15045.debianrob@poncacity.net> Greetings, I've been using Linux with KDE as my desktop for quite some time and I'm pretty comfortable with it, how it looks, how it works, and how I've had it setup for years. Right now I've got Hardy installed and I want to go ahead and update to Jaunty, but frankly I'm afraid of moving to KDE4. I've installed KDE4 a couple of times to look at it and I just feel lost. Basic tasks, like adding an application to the taskbar as a shortcut just don't seem possible, for instance. Other things like "why are the desktop icons so freakin' big and with an interactive border?" have just kept me away from KDE4 to this point, but I realize that I can't stay stuck in 3.5 forever. Does anybody know of any howtos or guides for old stick in the muds like me that need to change but don't really have the time to spend totally relearning a desktop system? Searching around the 'net I find all kinds of stuff with information on the cool new features, but not anything that tells me how to do the stuff I've always done, or a side by side comparison of if you did $THIS in KDE3, you'll do $THAT in KDE4. Thanks for any information, links or helpful advice, Rob Wright debianrob at poncacity.net From dave6502 at googlemail.com Thu May 7 17:46:47 2009 From: dave6502 at googlemail.com (dave selby) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 18:46:47 +0100 Subject: System settings > Desktop > Enable desktop effects causes fglrx to cycle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2009/5/7 Myriam Schweingruber : > Hi Dave, > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 09:01, dave selby wrote: >> Still having the same problem, in addition around one in every 5-10 >> KDE starts, when the KDE startup screen has finished the screen goes >> totally blank and even ctrl-alt-f1 does zip, I suspect this is the >> display driver as well. > > You are lucky that you managed to start a desktop, for most people the > fglrx driver just freezes the PC at KDM start. It does so for me, and > I have the same graphic card than your wife's PC. > >> vanda at vanda-system:~$ sudo lshw | grep display -nA 10 >> 96:           *-display >> 97-                description: VGA compatible controller >> 98-                product: RV635 PRO AGP [Radeon HD 3650] >> 99-                vendor: ATI Technologies Inc >> 100-                physical id: 0 >> 101-                bus info: pci at 0000:01:00.0 >> 102-                version: 00 >> 103-                width: 32 bits >> 104-                clock: 66MHz >> 105-                capabilities: pm agp agp-3.0 bus_master cap_list >> 106-                configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=255 >> mingnt=8 module=fglrx >> vanda at vanda-system:~$ >> >> Any ideas anyone ? > > Well, yes, see this bug report: > > https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600 > > The only possibility is to use the free Radeon driver for now and > either disable the desktop effects or only have a minimal set of > effects by using the XRender compositing and wait till ATI provides a > working fglrx driver :( Many thanks for replying, I was unaware of the bug, at least now I know it is not me configuring something incorrectly :), Radeon driver here I come, Cheers Dave > Regards, Myriam. > > -- > Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: > http://www.fsfe.org > Please don't send me proprietary file formats, > use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From rscrawford at mossroot.com Thu May 7 17:57:14 2009 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:57:14 -0700 Subject: Removed root from sudoers group: NEVER MIND Message-ID: Fixed. -- Richard S. Crawford (rscrawford at mossroot.com) http://www.mossroot.com Publisher and Editor in Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) From eamner at yahoo.com Thu May 7 17:59:03 2009 From: eamner at yahoo.com (Eric Marquez) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <450167.59170.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello. This is my first message in this list. I've posted my problem in many forums, but so far nobody has given me a solution to my problem. I'm really desperate. My computer randomly gets freezed since I upgraded to KDE4. I mean totally freezed. Nothing works: mouse, keyboard... nothing. More strangely: after a few minutes (sometimes could be 5, sometimes 10, or more...), it comes back to life. And after it returns, the computer clock has been delayed for the amount of time it was "freezed".  It all began when I started using KDE4. I NEVER had this problem with KDE3. I used kde3 with kubuntu 6.06. I started using kde4 with 8.04 and that's when my problem began. Recently I fresh-installed Jaunty, which is my current distro.  It could happen only once a day, or it could happen 20 times a day... it's totally random.  There's no special application that I'm running when it happens. I could be just surfing the net with firefox, or I could be just using the console. Somebody advised me to put the "top" command on screen to see if there's any special process consuming 100% of the cpu. But there's nothing special there. Sometimes when it happens, the fan coolers work harder, as if some application would be consuming a lot, but I don't see nothing in "top".  I have suspected of some failure in my hard drives, but others tell me to suspect of another hardware failure, like video.  I already ran a fdisk test (from a live cd). Found no badblocks.  This is my configuration:  Pentium 4, 3ghz; 2GM Ram; Nvidia geforce 7300gt (with latest drivers); SBLive 5.1 soundcard. Now, I have a DUAL BOOT configuration (WinXP/Kubuntu) with 2 hard drives: 1 SATA 80GB for windows and 1 IDE 30GB for kubuntu. This was my same configuration when I had kde3, and never had problems with it.  I have 1.2gb for swap memory, but for some reason, always "0" is used.  I've told this story so many times.... nobody has been able to give me a solution. There should be at least some way to DIAGNOSE the problem. Maybe not solve it, but to diagnose it, in order to know the source of the problem. Maybe some log, some test.  Guys, I'd really appreciate your insights on this. I don't want to abandon kubuntu, but I'm running out of options.   Greetings, Eric. http://eamner.hispasonicos.com>  ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=mx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Thu May 7 18:01:41 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 15:01:41 -0300 Subject: Removed root from sudoers group: NEVER MIND In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905071101g30baa54m9fbfe164b624359b@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/7 Richard S. Crawford : > Fixed. mind to tell how? From rscrawford at mossroot.com Thu May 7 18:08:10 2009 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:08:10 -0700 Subject: Removed root from sudoers group: NEVER MIND In-Reply-To: <4c6e034d0905071101g30baa54m9fbfe164b624359b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4c6e034d0905071101g30baa54m9fbfe164b624359b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Antonio Augusto (Mancha) wrote: > 2009/5/7 Richard S. Crawford : >> Fixed. > > mind to tell how? Rebooted the computer with the LiveCD Once rebooted, I went to a terminal (ctrl+alt+F1), and logged in with root via $ sudo su Then I created a mount point under mnt: $ mkdir /mnt/local ...and mounted the local hard drive there. $ mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/local (the location of the hard drive might vary in your install; I used fdisk -l to figure it out.) Then I edited /mnt/local/etc/group and re-added deguser to the admin group. Only took me half an hour to figure it out. My Google fu is mighty. -- Richard S. Crawford (rscrawford at mossroot.com) http://www.mossroot.com Publisher and Editor in Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) From g.lip at gmx.com Thu May 7 18:39:34 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 02:39:34 +0800 Subject: Update to Jaunty and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200905071236.15045.debianrob@poncacity.net> References: <200905071236.15045.debianrob@poncacity.net> Message-ID: <4A032AE6.7040300@gmx.com> Rob Wright wrote: > Greetings, > > I've been using Linux with KDE as my desktop for quite some time and I'm > pretty comfortable with it, how it looks, how it works, and how I've had it > setup for years. Right now I've got Hardy installed and I want to go ahead > and update to Jaunty, but frankly I'm afraid of moving to KDE4. > > I've installed KDE4 a couple of times to look at it and I just feel lost. > Basic tasks, like adding an application to the taskbar as a shortcut just > don't seem possible, for instance. Other things like "why are the desktop > icons so freakin' big and with an interactive border?" have just kept me away > from KDE4 to this point, but I realize that I can't stay stuck in 3.5 > forever. > > Does anybody know of any howtos or guides for old stick in the muds like me > that need to change but don't really have the time to spend totally > relearning a desktop system? Searching around the 'net I find all kinds of > stuff with information on the cool new features, but not anything that tells > me how to do the stuff I've always done, or a side by side comparison of if > you did $THIS in KDE3, you'll do $THAT in KDE4. > > Thanks for any information, links or helpful advice, > > Rob Wright > debianrob at poncacity.net > One of the things you could do is to change the K menu from kickoff style to classic style. You need to unlock widget at panel first. The cashew not nut thingy. Then you can get rid of the desktop widgets if you want a cleaner, uncluttered desktop. And....the list goes on. I am not young myself but never too old unstuck in the muds, glad to try out rather than read howtos or guides. Regards, Goh Lip An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind. - - - Gandhi From derek at pointerstop.ca Thu May 7 18:18:25 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:18:25 -0300 Subject: Root user not in sudoers group WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!? References: Message-ID: Richard S. Crawford wrote: > I attempted to add my main user to another group using usermod. > Suddenly, I find that my root user no longer can access sudo. When I > try: > > $ sudo > > I get: > > deguser is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. > > > And just to be clear, deguser is the account I've been using for all > sudo tasks until now. There is no other user with the appropriate > permissions. > > What have I done, and how do I fix it? To answer the first, I'd be reasonably sure you used -g rather than -G (or vice versa, I can never remember). One replaces _all_ groups with the argument, and the other appends the argument to the list of groups. I rather serious difference, which is why it pays to use KUser instead of usermod. To fix it, you'll have to reboot into single-user mode, and execute usermod directly from root - being sure to add deguser to the "admin" group. -- derek From derek at pointerstop.ca Thu May 7 18:25:30 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:25:30 -0300 Subject: No wireless in intrepid References: <1078231390.5733651241715460959.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > I did a clean install of Kubuntu 9.04 and, despite trying the > Network-Manager plasmoid, wicd and knetwork-manager, I am unable to > connect to my home wireless router using WPA. All the apps timeout when > trying to logon to the router. > > The hardware worked fine using 8.10. > > I saw this as a "known issue" on the annoucement page, but is there a > known fix for this? I don't think anything this simple is a "known issue". Which announcement page? The Kubuntu.org 9.04 release notes merely say that you may need to manually install the NM plasmoid and that _Network Manager_ doesn't connect to some networks, but that wouldn't affect wicd; and the KDE 4.2 announcement doesn't even seem to mention networks. There are certainly known issues with the NM plasmoid and Enterprise WPA - but that doesn't usually apply to the home user. -- derek From rscrawford at mossroot.com Thu May 7 19:30:14 2009 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:30:14 -0700 Subject: Root user not in sudoers group WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I fixed this issue using the bootable CD which I happened to have lying around. Next time this happens I'll be using single user mode. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Derek Broughton wrote: > Richard S. Crawford wrote: > >> I attempted to add my main user to another group using usermod. >> Suddenly, I find that my root user no longer can access sudo. When I >> try: >> >> $ sudo >> >> I get: >> >> deguser is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. >> >> >> And just to be clear, deguser is the account I've been using for all >> sudo tasks until now. There is no other user with the appropriate >> permissions. >> >> What have I done, and how do I fix it? > > To answer the first, I'd be reasonably sure you used -g rather than -G (or > vice versa, I can never remember).  One replaces _all_ groups with the > argument, and the other appends the argument to the list of groups.  I > rather serious difference, which is why it pays to use KUser instead of > usermod. > > To fix it, you'll have to reboot into single-user mode, and execute usermod > directly from root - being sure to add deguser to the "admin" group. > -- > derek > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Richard S. Crawford (rscrawford at mossroot.com) http://www.mossroot.com Publisher and Editor in Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 7 19:37:13 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 19:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty users: please triage References: <880dece00904260935y76072bcdt9a2f73e0ba9981e4@mail.gmail.com> <4912053.BLlFxDnEl9@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00904271048ke2301fax30043454937fd4e8@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00904271110i62d0d865i85e019db895db2f4@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00904271525t3ea4a74em18bd237ef33e81fc@mail.gmail.com> <49F68AA3.5020905@earthlink.net> <880dece00905070751l45151824w14d2329174efcee@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00905071004k644e5f2yf940693c37652cb4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dotan Cohen said: >> Or F4. But nope, as I explained, I need to launch a konsole process. >> Embedding it is of very limited use. It also has some nasty behaviour. >> Try cd'ing with a process running. >> >> > Please add details as to why the embedded terminal is not suitable here: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191931 > > Thanks! Done plus voted. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 7 19:44:38 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 19:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Configuring kde application menus Message-ID: Hi, I here a way for the user to configure the context (right-click) menus in kde apps? In particular, I want to move some of the entries in sub-menus up a level, so that they appear when I right-click and do not require further navigation. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 7 19:46:07 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 19:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu References: <450167.59170.qm@web53310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Eric Marquez said: Please switch off HTML. Because...
Hello. This is my first message in this list.
I've posted my problem in many forums, but so far nobody has given me a solution to my problem. I'm really desperate.
My computer randomly gets freezed since I upgraded to KDE4. I mean totally freezed. Nothing works: mouse, keyboard... nothing. More strangely: after a few minutes (sometimes could be 5, sometimes 10, or more...), it comes back to life. And after it returns, the computer clock has been delayed for the amount of time it was "freezed".
 It all began when I started using KDE4. I NEVER had this problem with KDE3. I used kde3 with kubuntu 6.06. I started using kde4 with 8.04 and that's when my problem began. Recently I fresh-installed Jaunty, which is my current distro.
 It could happen only once a day, or it could happen 20 times a day... it's totally random.
 There's no special application that I'm running when it happens. I could be just surfing the net with firefox, or I could be just using the console. Somebody advised me to put the "top" command on screen to see if there's any special process consuming 100% of the cpu. But there's nothing special there. Sometimes when it happens, the fan coolers work harder, as if some application would be consuming a lot, but I don't see nothing in "top".
 I have suspected of some failure in my hard drives, but others tell me to suspect of another hardware failure, like video.
 I already ran a fdisk test (from a live cd). Found no badblocks.
 This is my configuration:
 Pentium 4, 3ghz; 2GM Ram; Nvidia geforce 7300gt (with latest drivers); SBLive 5.1 soundcard. Now, I have a DUAL BOOT configuration (WinXP/Kubuntu) with 2 hard drives: 1 SATA 80GB for windows and 1 IDE 30GB for kubuntu. This was my same configuration when I had kde3, and never had problems with it.
 I have 1.2gb for swap memory, but for some reason, always "0" is used.
 
 I've told this story so many times.... nobody has been able to give me a solution. There should be at least some way to DIAGNOSE the problem. Maybe not solve it, but to diagnose it, in order to know the source of the problem. Maybe some log, some test.
 Guys, I'd really appreciate your insights on this. I don't want to abandon kubuntu, but I'm running out of options.
 

Greetings,

Eric.

 

 


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Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8.br> http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=mx -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 7 20:46:29 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Moving active apps on taksbar Message-ID: Just realised that I can't arrange active applications on the taskbar via drag and drop. Is this functionality available in some way? -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 7 20:55:58 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Moving active apps on taksbar References: Message-ID: marc said: > Just realised that I can't arrange active applications on the taskbar > via drag and drop. Is this functionality available in some way? Ah, found it under sorting/manual in the taskbar options. -- Best, Marc From lisi.reisz at gmail.com Thu May 7 21:03:33 2009 From: lisi.reisz at gmail.com (Lisi Reisz) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 22:03:33 +0100 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: <200905071111.49026.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905072203.33695.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> On Thursday 07 May 2009 17:01:39 marc wrote: > Lisi Reisz said: > > On Thursday 07 May 2009 09:31:06 marc wrote: > >> Ric Moore said: > >> > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:23 -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > >> >> On Wednesday 06 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive > >> >> > >> >> from Jan Torben Heuer who wrote: > >> >> > > I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. > >> >> > > I can't figure out how to do this in jaunty. > >> >> > > >> >> > For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. > >> >> > But it is a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. > >> >> > Nevertheless, the printer will appear in KDE, too. > >> >> > >> >> Install CUPS and do it through the web interface > >> >> (http://localhost:631) > >> > > >> > There ya go! Ric > >> > >> Eh? As I mentioned in the OP, I've tried :631. > > > > Yes, but have you installed CUPS? That is essential if you want to use > > it!! > > I don't remember doing so, but it is installed. I also presumed that > since I was using a working front end to it, :631, that it was installed! > > Is my logic skewed somehow? No. Sorry. I misunderstood or misremembered your original request. I knew that :631 had failed, but not that it had failed when you actually used it. (Failure could mean that nothing happened when you put it in your browser.) Mea culpa. :-( Lisi From lisi.reisz at gmail.com Thu May 7 21:08:58 2009 From: lisi.reisz at gmail.com (Lisi Reisz) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 22:08:58 +0100 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> On Thursday 07 May 2009 17:05:28 marc wrote: > The problem is that there's nothing to inform me what the URI should be. > I have no idea, as I very, very rarely print - I have a strict (as > possible) no paper policy. I didn't have to tell CUPS the URL of my printers - CUPS finds them and tells me where they are. (It even picks up printers connected to other computers in the network and can happily print on them.) There does indeed seem to be something a little strange going on. :-( Lisi From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 7 21:29:38 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 21:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> Message-ID: Lisi Reisz said: > On Thursday 07 May 2009 17:05:28 marc wrote: >> The problem is that there's nothing to inform me what the URI should >> be. I have no idea, as I very, very rarely print - I have a strict (as >> possible) no paper policy. > > I didn't have to tell CUPS the URL of my printers - CUPS finds them and > tells me where they are. (It even picks up printers connected to other > computers in the network and can happily print on them.) > > There does indeed seem to be something a little strange going on. :-( I don't understand how a URI of: parallel:/dev/lp0 is going to work for a usb printer. That's what is produced. But then there are no other options except parallel port or network printer. I'm surely not the only person out here with a usb printer! Does anyone know how I can go about construction the URI for the usb port? Presumably, it's something like: usb:/... -- Best, Marc From lisi.reisz at gmail.com Thu May 7 22:00:50 2009 From: lisi.reisz at gmail.com (Lisi Reisz) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 23:00:50 +0100 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905072300.50853.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> On Thursday 07 May 2009 22:29:38 marc wrote: > I don't understand how a URI of: > >   parallel:/dev/lp0 > > is going to work for a usb printer. That's what is produced. But then > there are no other options except parallel port or network printer. I'm > surely not the only person out here with a usb printer! > > Does anyone know how I can go about construction the URI for the usb port? > > Presumably, it's something like: > >   usb:/... Are you doing this with the printer plugged in and turned on, before you launch CUPS?? Here is what one of mine says, entirely self-constructed by CUPS (apart from the description, where I was asked to put something that would tell me where it was): Description: Samsung-on-Tux Location: Printer Driver: Samsung ML-1410 Foomatic/gdi (recommended) Printer State: idle, accepting jobs, published. Device URI: usb://Samsung/ML-1510_700 If you are doing it this way, and still getting such poor results, it might be worth uninstalling CUPS and then installing it again. Lisi From jongleur at liripipe.com Fri May 8 00:31:02 2009 From: jongleur at liripipe.com (John L Vifian) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 17:31:02 -0700 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905071731.02991.jongleur@liripipe.com> On Thursday 07 May 2009 2:29:38 pm marc wrote: > Does anyone know how I can go about construction the URI for the usb port? > > Presumably, it's something like: > > usb:/... mine is: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20RX620 good luck, John Vifian -- Sometimes we are just two people together but alone, quietly recharging. Louise Lague From tony.caudel at sbcglobal.net Fri May 8 01:03:42 2009 From: tony.caudel at sbcglobal.net (Anthony E. Caudel) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:03:42 -0500 Subject: System-settings as root Message-ID: <42AC4531-F264-4066-99AE-6C5E1F1DAC8E@sbcglobal.net> Is "kdesudo systemsettings" via the CLI the only to get root access to the various modules of System Settings? If so, pretty kludgy. I hope they fix it. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin From johndecarlo at gmail.com Fri May 8 02:20:47 2009 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 22:20:47 -0400 Subject: System-settings as root In-Reply-To: <42AC4531-F264-4066-99AE-6C5E1F1DAC8E@sbcglobal.net> References: <42AC4531-F264-4066-99AE-6C5E1F1DAC8E@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <3dde113c0905071920q6c00a8d2pc22a3705f2053857@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > Is "kdesudo systemsettings" via the CLI the only to get root access to > the various modules of System Settings? > No. Some things, like changing the time, will pop up a window prompting for your password to run sudo. I haven't run into anything I can't change just running system settings normally. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500&ref=mf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony.caudel at sbcglobal.net Fri May 8 02:39:59 2009 From: tony.caudel at sbcglobal.net (Anthony E. Caudel) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 21:39:59 -0500 Subject: System-settings as root In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0905071920q6c00a8d2pc22a3705f2053857@mail.gmail.com> References: <42AC4531-F264-4066-99AE-6C5E1F1DAC8E@sbcglobal.net> <3dde113c0905071920q6c00a8d2pc22a3705f2053857@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On May 7, 2009, at 9:20 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Anthony E. Caudel > wrote: > Is "kdesudo systemsettings" via the CLI the only to get root access to > the various modules of System Settings? > > No. > > Some things, like changing the time, will pop up a window prompting > for your password to run sudo. > > I haven't run into anything I can't change just running system > settings normally. > I wanted to add some tasks to cron but the Task Scheduler does not ask for the password if I select the System cron. And everything is greyed out so I can't add any tasks. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin From microman at cmosnetworks.com Fri May 8 03:00:51 2009 From: microman at cmosnetworks.com (Terrell Prude' Jr.) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 23:00:51 -0400 Subject: SOLVED: Anybody having issues updating libqtgui4 on Jaunty? In-Reply-To: <4c6e034d0905070543q57292e3fvdf20a0c0074e5c93@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A026098.9050105@cmosnetworks.com> <4A02D42B.6060201@cmosnetworks.com> <4c6e034d0905070543q57292e3fvdf20a0c0074e5c93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A03A063.1020308@cmosnetworks.com> Antonio Augusto (Mancha) wrote: > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 09:29, Terrell Prude' Jr. > wrote: > >> Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >> >>> Hi Terrell, >>> >>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 06:16, Terrell Prude' Jr. >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I just did apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade, and I'm seeing >>>> the following messages. >>>> >>>> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-proposed/main libqtgui4 >>>> 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 [3638kB] >>>> >>>> >>> ... >>> >>> >>>> ...and it keeps going just like this. Eventually I get a "Hash Sum >>>> Mismatch" error, and the update does not proceed. I've also tried >>>> "apt-get dist-upgrade", which also updates the kernel packages, and I >>>> see the same thing. >>>> >>>> >>> Once you are on Jaunty, no need to do 'dist-upgrade' again, this will >>> not change anything. >>> >>> >> Hmm...my observation is somewhat different in this case. If I don't do >> "dist-upgrade", then the kernel updates get skipped, even with Jaunty. >> >> >>> Are you sure you need the 'proposed' repository? This makes sense only >>> if you carefully choose what you are going to upgrade (idem for all >>> other 'non-standard' repositories). Just doing sudo apt-get upgrade >>> without choosing can easily get you in trouble with package conflicts. >>> >>> >> The 'proposed' repository was included when I did the upgrade from >> Intrepid. However, I had included the repository on Intrepid that let >> me install KDE 4.2.2, so that might be why 'jaunty-proposed' is also >> included. Is that how it works? >> > > Yeaps. > The upgrade process try to keep all your repositories while migrating > everything from intrepid to jaunty. > > >> I'll try disabling it when I get to work this afternoon if the problem >> persists. >> >> Thanks! >> Looks like the repositories just needed a day for the hash database to get updated for this particular package. The update went just fine this afternoon, with the 'proposed' repository still enabled. I used "apt-get dist-upgrade" in order to not skip the kernel updates. So far, so good. Thanks, everyone. --TP From rjlapham at gmail.com Fri May 8 03:22:10 2009 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 23:22:10 -0400 Subject: Signatures in Kmail 1.11.2 Message-ID: <200905072322.10955.rjlapham@gmail.com> The Kmail signature feature I've been using for years doesn't seem to work in Kmail 1.11.2/KDE 4.2.2. Neither "File" nor "Output of a command" produces anything. Messages look rather bare without my signature block. :-) Anyone else experiencing this? -Jerry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eamner at yahoo.com Fri May 8 03:33:48 2009 From: eamner at yahoo.com (Eric Marquez Nava) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 23:03:48 -0430 Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9DA2F4F6DA5347598DEDBC1ACE677A65@home8c968ece11> marc said: >Please switch off HTML. Because... I checked it on the kubuntu-lists archive (web) and it looks fine.... but alright, I turned off the option and I'll send it again: Hello. This is my first message in this list. I've posted my problem in many forums, but so far nobody has given me a solution to my problem. I'm really desperate. My computer randomly gets freezed since I upgraded to KDE4. I mean totally freezed. Nothing works: mouse, keyboard... nothing. More strangely: after a few minutes (sometimes could be 5, sometimes 10, or more...), it comes back to life. And after it returns, the computer clock has been delayed for the amount of time it was "freezed". It all began when I started using KDE4. I NEVER had this problem with KDE3. I used kde3 with kubuntu 6.06. I started using kde4 with 8.04 and that's when my problem began. Recently I fresh-installed Jaunty, which is my current distro. It could happen only once a day, or it could happen 20 times a day... it's totally random. There's no special application that I'm running when it happens. I could be just surfing the net with firefox, or I could be just using the console. Somebody advised me to put the "top" command on screen to see if there's any special process consuming 100% of the cpu. But there's nothing special there. Sometimes when it happens, the fan coolers work harder, as if some application would be consuming a lot, but I don't see nothing in "top". I have suspected of some failure in my hard drives, but others tell me to suspect of another hardware failure, like video. I already ran a fdisk test (from a live cd). Found no badblocks. This is my configuration: Pentium 4, 3ghz; 2GM Ram; Nvidia geforce 7300gt (with latest drivers); SBLive 5.1 soundcard. Now, I have a DUAL BOOT configuration (WinXP/Kubuntu) with 2 hard drives: 1 SATA 80GB for windows and 1 IDE 30GB for kubuntu. This was my same configuration when I had kde3, and never had problems with it. I have 1.2gb for swap memory, but for some reason, always "0" is used. I've told this story so many times.... nobody has been able to give me a solution. There should be at least some way to DIAGNOSE the problem. Maybe not solve it, but to diagnose it, in order to know the source of the problem. Maybe some log, some test. Guys, I'd really appreciate your insights on this. I don't want to abandon kubuntu, but I'm running out of options. Greetings, Eric. http://eamner.hispasonicos.com From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 8 03:57:29 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 23:57:29 -0400 Subject: KDE4 unusefull in a toshiba satellite A70 In-Reply-To: <200905070039.20387.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> References: <200905070039.20387.irving.lp@feestudiantes.cujae.edu.cu> Message-ID: <1241755049.6271.92.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 00:39 -0400, Irving Leonard wrote: > I have a Toshiba Satellite A70, that have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000IGP and > the default kubuntu install give me a system with few visual effects and a lot > of CPU utilization. Disabling the desktop effects gives very small improve but > still huge CPU load; over 70% and just hovering over emails in kmail, with > kontact using +30% and xorg +40%. > It is killing (literally) my machine (hot, power, etc.) When you first install, the system will consume cpu during the initial shakedown period. But, I wouldn't expect to see that much! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 8 04:07:59 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 00:07:59 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <200905072203.33695.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> References: <200905071111.49026.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <200905072203.33695.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1241755679.6271.98.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 22:03 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 07 May 2009 17:01:39 marc wrote: > > Lisi Reisz said: > > > On Thursday 07 May 2009 09:31:06 marc wrote: > > >> Ric Moore said: > > >> > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:23 -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > >> >> On Wednesday 06 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive > > >> >> > > >> >> from Jan Torben Heuer who wrote: > > >> >> > > I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my machine. > > >> >> > > I can't figure out how to do this in jaunty. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest solution. > > >> >> > But it is a GNOME program and you may have to install it manually. > > >> >> > Nevertheless, the printer will appear in KDE, too. > > >> >> > > >> >> Install CUPS and do it through the web interface > > >> >> (http://localhost:631) > > >> > > > >> > There ya go! Ric > > >> > > >> Eh? As I mentioned in the OP, I've tried :631. Try clicking on that URL above again. I just did, the configuration page popped right up. I would think that if CUPS was properly installed, that you'd see that page, whether a printer was recognized or not. It has this notice: "If you are asked for a username and password, enter your login username and password or the "root" username and password." Maybe try it running as root?? Trouble shooting with a shot gun time. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 8 04:25:13 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 00:25:13 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1241756713.6271.113.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 21:29 +0000, marc wrote: > Lisi Reisz said: > > > On Thursday 07 May 2009 17:05:28 marc wrote: > >> The problem is that there's nothing to inform me what the URI should > >> be. I have no idea, as I very, very rarely print - I have a strict (as > >> possible) no paper policy. > > > > I didn't have to tell CUPS the URL of my printers - CUPS finds them and > > tells me where they are. (It even picks up printers connected to other > > computers in the network and can happily print on them.) > > > > There does indeed seem to be something a little strange going on. :-( > > I don't understand how a URI of: > > parallel:/dev/lp0 > > is going to work for a usb printer. That's what is produced. But then > there are no other options except parallel port or network printer. I'm > surely not the only person out here with a usb printer! > > Does anyone know how I can go about construction the URI for the usb port? > > Presumably, it's something like: > > usb:/... Huh, my HP printer has been running with USB for 3-4 years. Marc, I just noticed that I don't even have my USB printer plugged in. I had the machine down for the weekend and haven't plugged it's USB cable back to my printer. Ergo, to my system I have no printer at all. The CUPS page came right up in Firefox though. Something must be buggers on your end. "Works For Me" Maybe rip out cups and re-install it?? Your localhost does resolve to 127.0.0.1?? ifconfig shows that? Yeah, I'd be banging my head too. But this may shed some light... When I worked at RedHat, I could never get my Ex's printer to work. Darn embarrassing to be on the Help Desk fixing everyone elses printers. We had one whizbang that fired up emacs, had ten terminals with code pouring down the screens like the matrix. Impressed me! Then he started narrowing down the problem to samba not being configured correctly. I'm going she doesn't NEED Samba and I ripped it out. The printer worked right off. Samba was trying to network a printer that hadn't been configured correctly for the system. The cart before the horse, so to speak. You can rip out Samba, after saving config files if you need it or rip it out for good if you don't need it. One less thing in the way. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 8 04:55:47 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 00:55:47 -0400 Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <9DA2F4F6DA5347598DEDBC1ACE677A65@home8c968ece11> References: <9DA2F4F6DA5347598DEDBC1ACE677A65@home8c968ece11> Message-ID: <1241758547.6271.131.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 23:03 -0430, Eric Marquez Nava wrote: > I've told this story so many times.... nobody has been able to give me a > solution. There should be at least some way to DIAGNOSE the problem. Maybe > not solve it, but to diagnose it, in order to know the source of the > problem. Maybe some log, some test. > Guys, I'd really appreciate your insights on this. I don't want to abandon > kubuntu, but I'm running out of options. What nvidia drivers do you have installed?? If I were you, I'd install the envyNG package and let it install your nVidia for you. Drivers like NV just don't cut it if you want/need the real deal with everything cooking. I run Java 3D Wonderland and it'll bark, howl and die with anything else than the driver from nVidia. Not trying to be politically incorrect here, but either it works or it don't. Give that a whirl. Sounds like you have nothing to loose. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From myriam at ubuntu.com Fri May 8 06:24:02 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:24:02 +0200 Subject: Anybody having issues updating libqtgui4 on Jaunty? In-Reply-To: <4A02D42B.6060201@cmosnetworks.com> References: <4A026098.9050105@cmosnetworks.com> <4A02D42B.6060201@cmosnetworks.com> Message-ID: Hi Terrell, On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 14:29, Terrell Prude' Jr. wrote: > Myriam Schweingruber wrote: ... >> Are you sure you need the 'proposed' repository? This makes sense only >> if you carefully choose what you are going to upgrade (idem for all >> other 'non-standard' repositories). Just doing sudo apt-get upgrade >> without choosing can easily get you in trouble with package conflicts. >> > > The 'proposed' repository was included when I did the upgrade from > Intrepid.  However, I had included the repository on Intrepid that let > me install KDE 4.2.2, so that might be why 'jaunty-proposed' is also > included. Unlikely, as the 'proposed' repository is only used during the development process of an upcoming distribution. The KDE 4.2.2 was first in the 'experimental' PPA, then in the 'backports' for Intrepid. When you do a dist-upgrade, it keeps all the repositories in your sources.list. A clean install only gives you the basic four repositories, 'main', 'universe', 'multiverse' and 'restricted'. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri May 8 06:28:58 2009 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 08:28:58 +0200 Subject: openoffice 3 update Message-ID: <4A03D12A.10205@gmail.com> Am on Hardy Kubuntu KDE 3.5 still but using Openoffice 3 via the ppa http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu/ I have an update waiting but when I investigate I see that it wants not only to update loads of stuff but also REMOVE openoffice.org-kde package. And I dont want that, not at all. Has anyone done this update and did it go well or bad? Any problems etc? Sinclair From myriam at ubuntu.com Fri May 8 07:25:50 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 09:25:50 +0200 Subject: Plasma question In-Reply-To: <4A02F797.5060209@swbell.net> References: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> <8abf83c20905061936g4ed830adt6b320257f9895da9@mail.gmail.com> <4A02F797.5060209@swbell.net> Message-ID: Hi Billie, On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 17:00, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > Myriam Schweingruber wrote: ... >> The 'thingy' is called the 'cashew', mostly because of its form :) > The issue of the OP seems to have been resolved so I'll ask: > > What if you don't have a "cashew" on your desktop? > > When I installed 8.10 and again with 9.04 it has disappeared. I've lost > my nut [ although technically a cashew is not a nut ]. You mean it was there first then disappeared? Very strange. Did you remove some plasma or kdebase package after the installation? Another possibility is that it has been dragged down to the right edge and the panel covers it. Changing the width of the panel would then make it appear again. Also, did you install the "Hide cashew" widget from kde-looks.org? That might be another explanation Hope this helps. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From tanghus at gmail.com Fri May 8 07:53:06 2009 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 09:53:06 +0200 Subject: System-settings as root In-Reply-To: <42AC4531-F264-4066-99AE-6C5E1F1DAC8E@sbcglobal.net> References: <42AC4531-F264-4066-99AE-6C5E1F1DAC8E@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905080953.06902.tanghus@gmail.com> On Friday 08 May 2009 03:03:42 Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > Is "kdesudo systemsettings" via the CLI the only to get root access to > the various modules of System Settings? > > If so, pretty kludgy. I hope they fix it. > > Tony For me it's the only way because I get an error about some Python script dying when I'm supposed to enter a password. I have filed a bug. -- Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Til uvedkommende, der læser med: Der er ingen grund til at læse min mail. Jeg har intet at gøre med FARC, al-Jihad, al-Qaida, Hamas, Hizb al-Mujahidin eller ETA. Jeg har aldrig gjort Zakat, går ikke ind for Istishad, har ikke lavet en bilbombe eller kernevåben og jeg ved dårligt nok, hvad Al Manar og бомба betyder. Men tak for den udviste interesse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at thefletchers.net Fri May 8 07:54:23 2009 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:54:23 +0100 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <1241755679.6271.98.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <200905072203.33695.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <1241755679.6271.98.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200905080854.24100.dave@thefletchers.net> On Friday 08 May 2009 05:07:59 Ric Moore wrote: > this notice: "If you are asked for a username and password, enter your > login username and password or the "root" username and password." Maybe > try it running as root?? Trouble shooting with a shot gun time. :) Ric > I always log in to CUPS using the administrator ID/password that is entered as (k)ubuntu is installed. Then it works for me. Note that I'm not using Jaunty. I was going to do a fresh install of the AMD64 version, but threads like this tend to put me off. Last night I downloaded the AMD64 version of Hardy, which I will probably end up using instead. I know that it works. For instance, I installed Hardy for a friend ages ago. Installing her HP printer consisted of plugging it into a USP port and switching it on. Period. There was a couple of little messages on the screen, if I remember correctly, something like "Hey, somebody plugged in a printer, I wonder what it is" followed by "Oh, it's an HP (correct model number)" followed by "OK, the printer is ready to use". And it was. And it's worked perfectly ever since. I like that. Dave From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 8 08:11:19 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <200905071111.49026.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <200905072203.33695.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <1241755679.6271.98.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: Ric Moore said: > On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 22:03 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Thursday 07 May 2009 17:01:39 marc wrote: >> > Lisi Reisz said: >> > > On Thursday 07 May 2009 09:31:06 marc wrote: >> > >> Ric Moore said: >> > >> > On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:23 -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: >> > >> >> On Wednesday 06 May 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive >> > >> >> >> > >> >> from Jan Torben Heuer who >> > >> >> wrote: >> > >> >> > > I want to install a usb printer that's connected to my >> > >> >> > > machine. I can't figure out how to do this in jaunty. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > For me, running "system-config-printer" was the easiest >> > >> >> > solution. But it is a GNOME program and you may have to >> > >> >> > install it manually. Nevertheless, the printer will appear in >> > >> >> > KDE, too. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Install CUPS and do it through the web interface >> > >> >> (http://localhost:631) >> > >> > >> > >> > There ya go! Ric >> > >> >> > >> Eh? As I mentioned in the OP, I've tried :631. > > Try clicking on that URL above again. I just did, the configuration page > popped right up. I would think that if CUPS was properly installed, that > you'd see that page, whether a printer was recognized or not. Yes, it works, but it isn't helping me get my printer printing. It's the detail of what I need to do that seems to be the problem. Same issue as elsewhere: Add printer//Device ??? Need URI. Or Find new printers. "No printers found." -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 8 08:12:24 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <200905072203.33695.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <1241755679.6271.98.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <200905080854.24100.dave@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: David Fletcher said: > On Friday 08 May 2009 05:07:59 Ric Moore wrote: >> this notice: "If you are asked for a username and password, enter your >> login username and password or the "root" username and password." Maybe >> try it running as root?? Trouble shooting with a shot gun time. :) Ric >> >> > > I always log in to CUPS using the administrator ID/password that is > entered as (k)ubuntu is installed. Then it works for me. > > Note that I'm not using Jaunty. I was going to do a fresh install of the > AMD64 version, but threads like this tend to put me off. Last night I > downloaded the AMD64 version of Hardy, which I will probably end up > using instead. I know that it works. For instance, I installed Hardy for > a friend ages ago. Installing her HP printer consisted of plugging it > into a USP port and switching it on. Period. There was a couple of > little messages on the screen, if I remember correctly, something like > "Hey, somebody plugged in a printer, I wonder what it is" followed by > "Oh, it's an HP (correct model number)" followed by "OK, the printer is > ready to use". And it was. And it's worked perfectly ever since. I like > that. Yes, it all worked in 8.04. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 8 08:15:18 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <1241756713.6271.113.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: Ric Moore said: > On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 21:29 +0000, marc wrote: >> Lisi Reisz said: >> >> > On Thursday 07 May 2009 17:05:28 marc wrote: >> >> The problem is that there's nothing to inform me what the URI should >> >> be. I have no idea, as I very, very rarely print - I have a strict >> >> (as possible) no paper policy. >> > >> > I didn't have to tell CUPS the URL of my printers - CUPS finds them >> > and tells me where they are. (It even picks up printers connected to >> > other computers in the network and can happily print on them.) >> > >> > There does indeed seem to be something a little strange going on. :-( >> >> I don't understand how a URI of: >> >> parallel:/dev/lp0 >> >> is going to work for a usb printer. That's what is produced. But then >> there are no other options except parallel port or network printer. I'm >> surely not the only person out here with a usb printer! >> >> Does anyone know how I can go about construction the URI for the usb >> port? >> >> Presumably, it's something like: >> >> usb:/... > > Huh, my HP printer has been running with USB for 3-4 years. Marc, I just > noticed that I don't even have my USB printer plugged in. I had the > machine down for the weekend and haven't plugged it's USB cable back to > my printer. Ergo, to my system I have no printer at all. The CUPS page > came right up in Firefox though. No, CUPs is fine; in that it runs and :631 displays, etc. > Your localhost does resolve to 127.0.0.1? Yes. > But this may shed some light... When I worked at RedHat, I could never > get my Ex's printer to work. Darn embarrassing to be on the Help Desk > fixing everyone elses printers. We had one whizbang that fired up emacs, > had ten terminals with code pouring down the screens like the matrix. > Impressed me! Then he started narrowing down the problem to samba not > being configured correctly. I'm going she doesn't NEED Samba and I > ripped it out. The printer worked right off. Samba was trying to network > a printer that hadn't been configured correctly for the system. The cart > before the horse, so to speak. You can rip out Samba, after saving > config files if you need it or rip it out for good if you don't need it. > One less thing in the way. I'll give that a spin. Thanks. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 8 08:27:51 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <200905071731.02991.jongleur@liripipe.com> Message-ID: John L Vifian said: > On Thursday 07 May 2009 2:29:38 pm marc wrote: >> Does anyone know how I can go about construction the URI for the usb >> port? >> >> Presumably, it's something like: >> >> usb:/... > > mine is: usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20RX620 Thanks. Any idea how to query the available usb uris? -- Best, Marc From myriam at ubuntu.com Fri May 8 08:43:41 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:43:41 +0200 Subject: Update to Jaunty and KDE4 In-Reply-To: <200905071236.15045.debianrob@poncacity.net> References: <200905071236.15045.debianrob@poncacity.net> Message-ID: Hi Rob, On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 19:36, Rob Wright wrote: > Greetings, > > I've been using Linux with KDE as my desktop for quite some time and I'm > pretty comfortable with it, how it looks, how it works, and how I've had it > setup for years. Right now I've got Hardy installed and I want to go ahead > and update to Jaunty, but frankly I'm afraid of moving to KDE4. > > I've installed KDE4 a couple of times to look at it and I just feel lost. > Basic tasks, like adding an application to the taskbar as a shortcut just > don't seem possible, for instance. Yes it is. I guess you tried a version previous to KDE 4.2 : go to the application in the Menu and right click on it: you will see the option "Add to Panel", click on it and you are done. But instead of adding shortcuts to your panel (which overloads the panel IMHO), why don't you try to use krunner instead? It's already there in KDE 3: launch it with Alt+F2 and type the name of the application you want to launch. Another approach could be to add the most used applications to the 'Favorites' menu which is the first menu panel to show up when you click on the KDE icon on the left of the panel: right click on the application and you get various options, amongst them "Add to Favorites". > Other things like "why are the desktop > icons so freakin' big and with an interactive border?" Actually, these are not icons but plasma widgets and are in fact individual applications. You can remove those easily: hover over it and click on the X in the lower end of the interactive border. I don't suggest to remove them though: plasma widget are one of the real powers behind KDE 4. Try it out, you will be astonished how easy you will get used to it and wouldn't miss them after a few days. > have just kept me away > from KDE4 to this point, but I realize that I can't stay stuck in 3.5 > forever. > > Does anybody know of any howtos or guides for old stick in the muds like me > that need to change but don't really have the time to spend totally > relearning a desktop system? Why not use a live CD to get yourself used to some basic features till you are comfortable with it? IMHO the best way to learn something is hands on, and KDE 4 is not more different from KDE 3 than for example Windows Vista from XP ;-) . Many things are still the same, there are new things like the plasma widgets (of which earlier versions were already available in KDE 3 through Superkaramba, although more static then), and many more. > Searching around the 'net I find all kinds of > stuff with information on the cool new features, but not anything that tells > me how to do the stuff I've always done, or a side by side comparison of if > you did $THIS in KDE3, you'll do $THAT in KDE4. The latter would indeed be an interesting approach, yes. Did you have a look at the KDE website? You can find a lot of stuff over there, like the following: http://userbase.kde.org/ You should find enough information there to answer your questions. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From oub at mat.ucm.es Fri May 8 08:51:59 2009 From: oub at mat.ucm.es (Uwe Brauer) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:51:59 +0200 Subject: 8.04, seamonkey 1.1.12 vs 1.1.15 Message-ID: <871vr07z9s.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Hello I installed 8.04 some month ago and it came with semonkey 1.1.12 shipped. Yesterday I picked up the same CD installed it on different Laptop and oops I ended up with seamonkey 1.1.15. I did not touch sources.list So I run apt-get update on the old laptop and sun again apt-get install seamonkey but now apt-get insists that 1.1.12 is the _newest_ version. What do I miss? Uwe Brauer From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 8 08:53:05 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu References: <9DA2F4F6DA5347598DEDBC1ACE677A65@home8c968ece11> Message-ID: Eric Marquez Nava said: > I've told this story so many times.... nobody has been able to give me > a > solution. There should be at least some way to DIAGNOSE the problem. > Maybe not solve it, but to diagnose it, in order to know the source of > the problem. Maybe some log, some test. > Guys, I'd really appreciate your insights on this. I don't want to > abandon kubuntu, but I'm running out of options. 9.04 is definitely running a lot hotter here. I have also noticed that kwin sometimes "runs away"; sits at 50%+ cpu, which causes things to run very hot. I've no idea what is setting this off, but now that I'm aware of it, I've started watching. I'd try running without compositing: System Settings/Desktop/Enable desktop effects -> unchecked. Xref this bug, I'm pretty sure that there are a few xorg + video driver bugs lurking - there are large regressions in 9.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/ +bug/351990 Also, it's worth installing and running htop in preference to top, it provides a lot of useful info in an easily accessible way. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 8 08:58:52 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: System-settings as root References: <42AC4531-F264-4066-99AE-6C5E1F1DAC8E@sbcglobal.net> <3dde113c0905071920q6c00a8d2pc22a3705f2053857@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Anthony E. Caudel said: > On May 7, 2009, at 9:20 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: > >> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Anthony E. Caudel >> > > wrote: >> Is "kdesudo systemsettings" via the CLI the only to get root access to >> the various modules of System Settings? >> >> No. >> >> Some things, like changing the time, will pop up a window prompting for >> your password to run sudo. >> >> I haven't run into anything I can't change just running system settings >> normally. >> >> > I wanted to add some tasks to cron but the Task Scheduler does not ask > for the password if I select the System cron. And everything is greyed > out so I can't add any tasks. Same here. Can you raise a bug on it. -- Best, Marc From tanghus at gmail.com Fri May 8 09:46:36 2009 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 11:46:36 +0200 Subject: Plasma question In-Reply-To: <8abf83c20905070440t43e23193kb65e41920cb1bd50@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> <200905071138.23707.tanghus@gmail.com> <8abf83c20905070440t43e23193kb65e41920cb1bd50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905081146.36910.tanghus@gmail.com> On Thursday 07 May 2009 13:40:02 Sascha Güthling wrote: > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 May 2009 20:51:26 Thomas Olsen wrote: >> How do you add application shortcut on the panel just like in 3.5.x? > > > First you need to add the Quicklaunch widget to the panel, if not > already done. Now you can open the Application Launcher (K-Menu) and > drag your application to the Quicklaunch widget. > If you want to remove one you just right-click on it and select Remove > this Icon. > > Cheers > Sascha Just accidently found out that I don't need to use the Quicklaunch widget - just drag an application to the panel instead. You don't get the icons in several rows but you do get the tooltips. -- Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Til uvedkommende, der læser med: Der er ingen grund til at læse min mail. Jeg har intet at gøre med FARC, al-Jihad, al-Qaida, Hamas, Hizb al-Mujahidin eller ETA. Jeg har aldrig gjort Zakat, går ikke ind for Istishad, har ikke lavet en bilbombe eller kernevåben og jeg ved dårligt nok, hvad Al Manar og бомба betyder. Men tak for den udviste interesse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From myriam at ubuntu.com Fri May 8 10:29:10 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:29:10 +0200 Subject: Signatures in Kmail 1.11.2 In-Reply-To: <200905072322.10955.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <200905072322.10955.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jerry, On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 05:22, Jerry Lapham wrote: > The Kmail signature feature I've been using for years doesn't seem to work > in Kmail 1.11.2/KDE 4.2.2. Neither "File" nor "Output of a command" produces > anything. Messages look rather bare without my signature block. :-) > > > Anyone else experiencing this? I can't test with the 1.11.2 version as I already upgraded to KDE 4.2.3, but the KMail version 1.11.3 works fine with both options. Did you check on https://bugs.launchpad.net or on http://bugs.kde.org if something similar has been reported? Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Fri May 8 11:09:17 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:09:17 -0300 Subject: 8.04, seamonkey 1.1.12 vs 1.1.15 In-Reply-To: <871vr07z9s.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <871vr07z9s.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905080409q4db788bdwbd050a7ee85957e@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 05:51, Uwe Brauer wrote: > Hello > > I installed 8.04 some month ago and it came with semonkey 1.1.12 > shipped. Yesterday I picked up the same CD installed it on different > Laptop and oops I ended up with seamonkey 1.1.15. I did not touch > sources.list > > So I run apt-get update on the old laptop and sun again > apt-get install seamonkey but now apt-get insists that 1.1.12 is the > _newest_ version. > > What do I miss? > According to http://packages.ubuntu.com all versions have Seamonkey 1.1.15. Are you sure the old laptop has all repositories enabled? Cheers From 4cqncnl7 at acme.softbase.org Fri May 8 11:31:29 2009 From: 4cqncnl7 at acme.softbase.org (Wolfgang Jeltsch) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 13:31:29 +0200 Subject: fglrx and KDE In-Reply-To: <4c6e034d0905071015n6cf8630dh9138678e083b0dfe@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905071434.58425.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> <200905071704.44709.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> <4c6e034d0905071015n6cf8630dh9138678e083b0dfe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905081331.29805.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> Am Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2009 19:15 schrieb Antonio Augusto (Mancha): > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:04, Wolfgang Jeltsch > > How much video RAM do you have? > > 128Mb shared. > > My system has a total of 2Gb, so only about 1,8 is available to the > system (the rest being used by the video card). > > Whats your spec? 128 MB of shared video RAM. Total RAM size is 1.25 GB. Note that I’m talking about my experiences with the radeon driver here, despite the subject. (The thread start was about fglrx.) Do you use radeon or fglrx? Best wishes, Wolfgang From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Fri May 8 11:42:37 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:42:37 -0300 Subject: fglrx and KDE In-Reply-To: <200905081331.29805.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> References: <200905071434.58425.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> <200905071704.44709.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> <4c6e034d0905071015n6cf8630dh9138678e083b0dfe@mail.gmail.com> <200905081331.29805.4cqncnl7@acme.softbase.org> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905080442n1dcc1255ve430c3033396a9c9@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 08:31, Wolfgang Jeltsch <4cqncnl7 at acme.softbase.org> wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2009 19:15 schrieb Antonio Augusto (Mancha): >> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:04, Wolfgang Jeltsch >> > How much video RAM do you have? >> >> 128Mb shared. >> >> My system has a total of 2Gb, so only about 1,8 is available to the >> system (the rest being used by the video card). >> >> Whats your spec? > > 128 MB of shared video RAM. Total RAM size is 1.25 GB. > > Note that I’m talking about my experiences with the radeon driver here, > despite the subject. (The thread start was about fglrx.) Do you use radeon or > fglrx? I use the radeon driver, since the fglrx doesn't work with our video card on Jaunty. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri May 8 12:45:01 2009 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 08:45:01 -0400 Subject: Signatures in Kmail 1.11.2 In-Reply-To: References: <200905072322.10955.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905080845.01413.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday 08 May 2009, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 05:22, Jerry Lapham wrote: > > The Kmail signature feature I've been using for years doesn't seem to > > work in Kmail 1.11.2/KDE 4.2.2. Neither "File" nor "Output of a command" > > produces anything. Messages look rather bare without my signature block. > > :-) > > > > > > Anyone else experiencing this? > > I can't test with the 1.11.2 version as I already upgraded to KDE > 4.2.3, but the KMail version 1.11.3 works fine with both options. > > Did you check on https://bugs.launchpad.net or on http://bugs.kde.org > if something similar has been reported? Works fine here...... Using the same code I've always used. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g.lip at gmx.com Fri May 8 13:30:29 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 21:30:29 +0800 Subject: Upgrade to KDE 4.2.3- Public Key In-Reply-To: References: <200905072322.10955.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0433F5.4000606@gmx.com> I've upgraded to KDE 4.2.3, but do we need a public key for deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main ? Otherwise each update will show an error message that public key is not available and signature is not valid. Does anyone know where the public key is? Regards, Goh Lip It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees. - Zapata From ubuntu-ml at rwz.de Fri May 8 13:50:33 2009 From: ubuntu-ml at rwz.de (Jens Strohschnitter) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:50:33 +0200 Subject: umtsmon crashes with segmentation fault Message-ID: <20090508155033.04efbbee@strohsje.rhg.de> Hi list, after upgrading to 9.04, the umtsmon on my kubuntu crashes with "Segmentation fault". I've tried it with any known version of umtsmon, but anyone crashes with the same error after startup and entering the sudo-password. While trying with root, umtsmon works fine. Is there any solution ? -- kind regards, Jens Strohschnitter ----------------------------------------- LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX Set the controls for the heart of the sun LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX ----------------------------------------- From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri May 8 14:01:45 2009 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 09:01:45 -0500 Subject: Plasma question In-Reply-To: References: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> <8abf83c20905061936g4ed830adt6b320257f9895da9@mail.gmail.com> <4A02F797.5060209@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4A043B49.50806@swbell.net> Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Billie, > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 17:00, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > >> Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >> > ... > >>> The 'thingy' is called the 'cashew', mostly because of its form :) >>> > > >> The issue of the OP seems to have been resolved so I'll ask: >> >> What if you don't have a "cashew" on your desktop? >> >> When I installed 8.10 and again with 9.04 it has disappeared. I've lost >> my nut [ although technically a cashew is not a nut ]. >> > > You mean it was there first then disappeared? Very strange. Did you > remove some plasma or kdebase package after the installation? > Yes, it was there after install. No I didn't remove anything "plasma" or "base" > Another possibility is that it has been dragged down to the right edge > and the panel covers it. Changing the width of the panel would then > make it appear again. > Actually, I drug the bottom bar to the top and auto-hide. When the bar is hid the cashew isn't there. > Also, did you install the "Hide cashew" widget from kde-looks.org? > That might be another explanation > Nope. > Hope this helps. > > > Regards, Myriam. > I first noticed this in 8.10/4.1 & 4.2 and now in 9.04/4.2.2. It's no big deal as far as I'm concerned. I don't want any trash on my desktop. Just a nice clean wallpaper. No widgets, whatsits, or anything. 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If you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Fri May 8 14:07:14 2009 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 00:07:14 +1000 Subject: Upgrade to KDE 4.2.3- Public Key In-Reply-To: <4A0433F5.4000606@gmx.com> References: <200905072322.10955.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4A0433F5.4000606@gmx.com> Message-ID: <200905090007.14650.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Fri, 8 May 2009 11:30:29 pm Goh Lip wrote: > 've upgraded to KDE 4.2.3, but do we need a public key for > deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main ? > > Otherwise each update will show an error message that public key is not > available and signature is not valid. > > Does anyone know where the public key is? sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 2836CB0A8AC93F7A -- Lindsay http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Fri May 8 14:52:10 2009 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 07:52:10 -0700 Subject: openoffice 3 update In-Reply-To: <4A03D12A.10205@gmail.com> References: <4A03D12A.10205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905080752.10382.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Thursday 07 May 2009 11:28:58 pm O. Sinclair wrote: > Am on Hardy Kubuntu KDE 3.5 still but using Openoffice 3 via the ppa > http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu/ > > I have an update waiting but when I investigate I see that it wants not > only to update loads of stuff but also REMOVE openoffice.org-kde > package. And I dont want that, not at all. > > Has anyone done this update and did it go well or bad? Any problems etc? Yes, we did that update on all our machines and had no problems at all. Open Office is used here all of the time but we DID test with a backed up laptop first to see if it worked. We are not as trusting as we used to be!! We are also running 8.04 here with KDE 3.5.10 and now Open Office 3.1.0. Machines are three Dell laptops, one Sony Laptop, one Mac Air laptop, two Compaq desktops and one homebuilt 2.1 Ghz AMD machine which was assembled from salvaged parts. -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From oub at mat.ucm.es Fri May 8 14:53:18 2009 From: oub at mat.ucm.es (Uwe Brauer) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 16:53:18 +0200 Subject: 8.04, seamonkey 1.1.12 vs 1.1.15 References: <871vr07z9s.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <4c6e034d0905080409q4db788bdwbd050a7ee85957e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87iqkb63z5.fsf@mat.ucm.es> >> >> So I run apt-get update on the old laptop and sun again >> apt-get install seamonkey but now apt-get insists that 1.1.12 is the >> _newest_ version. >> >> What do I miss? >> > According to http://packages.ubuntu.com all versions have Seamonkey > 1.1.15. Are you sure the old laptop has all repositories enabled? Yes I do, but the mistake is seamonkeys! dpkg -l seamonkeys gives me seamonkey 1.1.15+nobinonly but the when starting seamonkey the message says it is still 1.12!!! Which is wrong Uwe From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Fri May 8 16:26:49 2009 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: partial sound in 9.04 Message-ID: <883596057.6221981241800009567.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I seem to have normal sound for the installing user on kubuntu intrepid, but not for secondary users. Any thoughts on what's wrong or how to troubleshoot? Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri May 8 17:06:28 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 13:06:28 -0400 Subject: Plasma question In-Reply-To: References: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> <4A02F797.5060209@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200905081306.28475.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Friday 08 May 2009 03:25:50 am Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Billie, > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 17:00, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > > Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > > ... > > >> The 'thingy' is called the 'cashew', mostly because of its form :) > > > > The issue of the OP seems to have been resolved so I'll ask: > > > > What if you don't have a "cashew" on your desktop? > > > > When I installed 8.10 and again with 9.04 it has disappeared. I've lost > > my nut [ although technically a cashew is not a nut ]. > > You mean it was there first then disappeared? Very strange. Did you > remove some plasma or kdebase package after the installation? > > Another possibility is that it has been dragged down to the right edge > and the panel covers it. Changing the width of the panel would then > make it appear again. > > Also, did you install the "Hide cashew" widget from kde-looks.org? > That might be another explanation > > Hope this helps. > > > Regards, Myriam. > -- > Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: > http://www.fsfe.org > Please don't send me proprietary file formats, > use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) You might try right-clicking on the panel and selecting unlock widgets. That restores a hidden cashew, I believe. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri May 8 17:23:28 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 13:23:28 -0400 Subject: Plasma question In-Reply-To: <4A02F797.5060209@swbell.net> References: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> <4A02F797.5060209@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200905081323.28221.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Thursday 07 May 2009 11:00:39 am Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > > Hi Sascha, > > > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 04:36, Sascha Güthling wrote: > >> 2009/5/6 Thomas Olsen : > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> I have a question from me as a total newbie as a Plasma user. How do > >>> you actually move the widgets on the panel? > >> > >> When you move your mouse pointer over a widget a black box should > >> appear right or left of it. > > > > Not in the panel, only on the desktop... > > > >> Click on the widget control thingy (what's the name of that thing > >> anyways) in the upper right corner of the screen and unlock them. > > > > The 'thingy' is called the 'cashew', mostly because of its form :) > > > > > > Regards, Myriam. > > The issue of the OP seems to have been resolved so I'll ask: > > What if you don't have a "cashew" on your desktop? > > When I installed 8.10 and again with 9.04 it has disappeared. I've lost > my nut [ although technically a cashew is not a nut ]. > > -- > Treat all stressful situations like a dog does. > If you can't eat it or play with it, > just pee on it and walk away Sometimes it goes away for me; I don't know why, however, I right-click the panel and choose unlock widgets. The small cashew usually returns then. Steven From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Fri May 8 17:27:17 2009 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:27:17 +0200 Subject: partial sound in 9.04 In-Reply-To: <883596057.6221981241800009567.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <883596057.6221981241800009567.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <200905081927.18678.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Friday 08 May 2009 18:26, pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > I seem to have normal sound for the installing user on kubuntu intrepid, > but not for secondary users. > > Any thoughts on what's wrong or how to troubleshoot? > Paul It may be worth checking in /etc/group, and see if your secondary uses are listed for the audio group. If not, add them. Nigel. From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 8 17:49:23 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Find References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom said: > I have changed configuration in the Ktorrent application. I have > downloaded an old movie torrent called The Peacemaker 1997. It doesn't > show up in any location that I have chosen to save Torrents. It is > downloaded and still on my desktop, so I am sure it is downloaded, > nonetheless, I cannot find it anywhere in my computer using 'find' in > Dolphin. How can I find the torrent? Weird. Since you know the file name from ktorrent, why not do: $ updatedb $ locate -- Best, Marc From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri May 8 18:00:08 2009 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 20:00:08 +0200 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905082000.08876.donn.ingle@gmail.com> On Friday, 08 May 2009 19:02:17 Steven Vollom wrote: > It is downloaded and still on > my desktop, so I am sure it is downloaded, nonetheless, I cannot find it > anywhere in my computer Huh? If it's on your dekstop... then there it is. No? \d -- Where I web: http://otherwise.relics.co.za/ Comics, tutorials, software and sundry From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri May 8 18:19:43 2009 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 13:19:43 -0500 Subject: Plasma question In-Reply-To: <200905081306.28475.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905062051.26483.tanghus@gmail.com> <4A02F797.5060209@swbell.net> <200905081306.28475.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A0477BF.5080708@swbell.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > On Friday 08 May 2009 03:25:50 am Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > >> Hi Billie, >> >> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 17:00, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: >> >>> Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >>> >> ... >> >> >>>> The 'thingy' is called the 'cashew', mostly because of its form :) >>>> >>> The issue of the OP seems to have been resolved so I'll ask: >>> >>> What if you don't have a "cashew" on your desktop? >>> >>> When I installed 8.10 and again with 9.04 it has disappeared. I've lost >>> my nut [ although technically a cashew is not a nut ]. >>> >> You mean it was there first then disappeared? Very strange. Did you >> remove some plasma or kdebase package after the installation? >> >> Another possibility is that it has been dragged down to the right edge >> and the panel covers it. Changing the width of the panel would then >> make it appear again. >> >> Also, did you install the "Hide cashew" widget from kde-looks.org? >> That might be another explanation >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> >> Regards, Myriam. >> -- >> Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: >> http://www.fsfe.org >> Please don't send me proprietary file formats, >> use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) >> > You might try right-clicking on the panel and selecting unlock widgets. That > restores a hidden cashew, I believe. > > Steven > > This is the Desktop cashew that's missing. The panel cashew is just fine. None of the widgets are locked. -- Treat all stressful situations like a dog does. If you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away From paulatgm at gmail.com Fri May 8 18:25:28 2009 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:25:28 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905082000.08876.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905082000.08876.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A047918.9010508@gmail.com> Donn said the following on 05/08/2009 02:00 PM: > If it's on your dekstop... then there it is. No? Remember in kde4, everything on the old desktop is now in a desktop folder. Maybe you need to look in it. From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Fri May 8 19:40:07 2009 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 21:40:07 +0200 Subject: podcasts on CNN In-Reply-To: <4A047C22.5080008@gmail.com> References: <7e4994a70905081036q1b417badka104027c52e5ca0b@mail.gmail.com> <4A047C22.5080008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905082140.07624.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Friday 08 May 2009 20:38, J. Michael Morse wrote: > 8.04 > Firefox 2.0.0.17 > > I was browsing CNN's website and tried to watch one of its podcasts. I > get a "plugin not found" error. The error, video/x-m4v, has something > to do with Quicktime. Is it safe to assume that I have to install > Quicktime to view the videos on podcasts on CNN? It seems odd to me > that CNN would require a proprietary format like Quicktime in order to > view their videos. > > When I type in apt-get install quicktime, I get a "couldn't find > package" response. What is the Linux equivalent? > > > Mike Hi Mike. You'll need to install mozilla-mplayer, which will give you a bunch of plugins, including a quicktime one. It will pull in quite a few deps including mplayer. It will come from the medibuntu repo, so if you havn't got that installed, you will have to set that up first. Nigel. From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 8 19:52:27 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Find References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905082000.08876.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4A047918.9010508@gmail.com> Message-ID: Paul S said: > Donn said the following on 05/08/2009 02:00 PM: >> If it's on your dekstop... then there it is. No? > > > Remember in kde4, everything on the old desktop is now in a desktop > folder. Maybe you need to look in it. Actually, reading that, you are quite right, and I hadn't thought until now how silly the idea is in reality. -- Best, Marc From tanghus at gmail.com Fri May 8 20:08:28 2009 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 22:08:28 +0200 Subject: No picture in movies Message-ID: <200905082208.29165.tanghus@gmail.com> Hi Since I upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04 the picture in AVI and WMV (and probably others) got jagged and jerky like the movie was turned on and off constantly. I messed a little around with xine parameters without things getting any better so I reinstalled libxine and kaffeine and deleted the local xine and kaffeine configs but to no avail. Now all I get is sound and a blue screen :-( Gets boring in a while. lspci|grep VGA says: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) Any ideas on what to do? -- Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Til uvedkommende, der læser med: Der er ingen grund til at læse min mail. Jeg har intet at gøre med FARC, al-Jihad, al-Qaida, Hamas, Hizb al-Mujahidin eller ETA. Jeg har aldrig gjort Zakat, går ikke ind for Istishad, har ikke lavet en bilbombe eller kernevåben og jeg ved dårligt nok, hvad Al Manar og бомба betyder. Men tak for den udviste interesse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sclewin at sgaming.ca Fri May 8 20:21:13 2009 From: sclewin at sgaming.ca (Scott) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:21:13 -0400 Subject: Upgrade to KDE 4.2.3- Public Key In-Reply-To: <200905090007.14650.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <200905072322.10955.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4A0433F5.4000606@gmx.com> <200905090007.14650.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905081621.13414.sclewin@sgaming.ca> On May 8, 2009 10:07:14 am Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Fri, 8 May 2009 11:30:29 pm Goh Lip wrote: > > Does anyone know where the public key is? > > sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com > 2836CB0A8AC93F7A Thank you from me as well. I was trying to find this on Google and could not find it. Thanks. :) -- Your friend, Scott http://sgaming.ca Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 9.04 From pyotr at riseup.net Fri May 8 20:20:47 2009 From: pyotr at riseup.net (Pyotr Kropotkin) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 14:20:47 -0600 Subject: podcasts on CNN In-Reply-To: <4A047C22.5080008@gmail.com> References: <7e4994a70905081036q1b417badka104027c52e5ca0b@mail.gmail.com> <4A047C22.5080008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090508202047.GA510@ecopunk.info> > When I type in apt-get install quicktime, I get a "couldn't find > package" response. What is the Linux equivalent? You'll want to install either the totem-mozilla or the mozilla-mplayer package - either one should provide the plugin you need. Your friendly neighborhood package manager (synaptic, aptitude, etc.) should do the trick; for example, to install using aptitude you'll ned to open up a terminal and type sudo aptitude install totem-mozilla to install the totem-mozilla plugin and its dependencies. I've had mixed success playing MP4/M4V files with the codecs available on a vanilla *buntu system. I would suggest also installing the non-free-codecs provided by the Medibuntu project. You can find instructions about how to do so here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu Doing so will also ensure you have functional installations of Flash, Java, etc. Hope this helps! - Pyotr pyotr at riseup.net -- Long live the fighters! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Now all I get is sound and a blue screen > :-( Gets boring in a while. > > > lspci|grep VGA > says: > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G > Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) > > Any ideas on what to do? I had the same problem. Removed Kaffeine and installed VLC. Still jerky, but changing the video output to X11 solved the problem. In Firefox I have all video formats (aside from flash) set to open /usr/bin/vlc (not the plugin). Furthermore, in order to watch Danish TV (not that it is worth the effort) you can install the firefox plugin 'mediaconncetivity'. Venlig hilsen Kaj Haulrich. -- *** Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer *** ********* Running Linux Kubuntu 9.04 ********* From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com Fri May 8 20:54:43 2009 From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?=) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 22:54:43 +0200 Subject: Upgrade to KDE 4.2.3- Public Key In-Reply-To: <200905081621.13414.sclewin@sgaming.ca> References: <200905072322.10955.rjlapham@gmail.com> <200905090007.14650.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <200905081621.13414.sclewin@sgaming.ca> Message-ID: <200905082254.44070.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com> Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 22:21:13 schrieb Scott: > On May 8, 2009 10:07:14 am Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > > On Fri, 8 May 2009 11:30:29 pm Goh Lip wrote: > > > Does anyone know where the public key is? > > > > sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com > > 2836CB0A8AC93F7A > > Thank you from me as well. I was trying to find this on Google and could > not find it. Thanks. :) > And I second the motion :-) I got same kind of error message, for some other missing key. It's fixed now. -- Give us Light, give us Love, give us happiness, Ulrich ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø " Can't talk to you without talking to me; we're guilty of the same old thing. Thinking a lot about less and less, and forgetting the love we bring " [Grateful Dead, in: 'Althea'] ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø OS: Kubuntu 8.10 (Linux) de.geocities.com/india_ulrich/Philosophie.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulatgm at gmail.com Fri May 8 21:40:24 2009 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 17:40:24 -0400 Subject: regression focus bug again Message-ID: <4A04A6C8.20501@gmail.com> After upgrading to kde 4.2.3, I again have the focus bug where Alt-F1 pops up menu, but it does not get focus. Same with Alt-F2 .. it opens but no focus. Same with any window opening .. it does not get focus. This occurred before, and was fixed, but now is back. Or is there something I have to reconfig? From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Fri May 8 22:04:43 2009 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 08:04:43 +1000 Subject: regression focus bug again In-Reply-To: <4A04A6C8.20501@gmail.com> References: <4A04A6C8.20501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905090804.43289.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Sat, 9 May 2009 07:40:24 am Paul S wrote: > After upgrading to kde 4.2.3, I again have the focus bug where Alt-F1 > pops up menu, but it does not get focus. Same with Alt-F2 .. it opens > but no focus. Same with any window opening .. it does not get focus. Just tested on my 4.2.3 - not happening here. -- Lindsay http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tanghus at gmail.com Fri May 8 22:06:03 2009 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 00:06:03 +0200 Subject: No picture in movies In-Reply-To: <200905082240.18338.kaj@haulrich.net> References: <200905082208.29165.tanghus@gmail.com> <200905082240.18338.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <200905090006.04100.tanghus@gmail.com> On Friday 08 May 2009 22:40:18 Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Friday 08 May 2009 22:08:28 Thomas Olsen wrote: > > Hi > > > > Since I upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04 the picture in AVI and WMV > > (and probably others) got jagged and jerky like the movie was > > turned on and off constantly. I messed a little around with xine > > parameters without things getting any better so I reinstalled > > libxine and kaffeine and deleted the local xine and kaffeine > > configs but to no avail. Now all I get is sound and a blue screen > > > > :-( Gets boring in a while. > > > > lspci|grep VGA > > says: > > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G > > Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) > > > > Any ideas on what to do? > > I had the same problem. Removed Kaffeine and installed VLC. Still > jerky, but changing the video output to X11 solved the problem. In > Firefox I have all video formats (aside from flash) set to open > /usr/bin/vlc (not the plugin). Furthermore, in order to watch Danish > TV (not that it is worth the effort) you can install the firefox > plugin 'mediaconncetivity'. > > Venlig hilsen > > Kaj Haulrich. Hej Kaj Actually I have problems with every movie player. Kaffeine, Dragon Player and MPlayer is just blue screen. VLC crashes with "BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)". But thanks for the effort. -- Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Til uvedkommende, der læser med: Der er ingen grund til at læse min mail. Jeg har intet at gøre med FARC, al-Jihad, al-Qaida, Hamas, Hizb al-Mujahidin eller ETA. Jeg har aldrig gjort Zakat, går ikke ind for Istishad, har ikke lavet en bilbombe eller kernevåben og jeg ved dårligt nok, hvad Al Manar og бомба betyder. Men tak for den udviste interesse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Grokit at ajinfosearch.com Fri May 8 22:10:05 2009 From: Grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:10:05 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905081810.05704.Grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Friday 08 May 2009 01:02:17 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > I have changed configuration in the Ktorrent application. I have > downloaded an old movie torrent called The Peacemaker 1997. It doesn't > show up in any location that I have chosen to save Torrents. It is > downloaded and still on my desktop, so I am sure it is downloaded, > nonetheless, I cannot find it anywhere in my computer using 'find' in > Dolphin. How can I find the torrent? > > Steven Right-click on the torrent, then click on "Open Directory" (about halfway down), then click on "Data Directory". This should open up the folder that your movie lives in with dolphin. Alan From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri May 8 22:27:39 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:27:39 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <4A047918.9010508@gmail.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905082000.08876.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4A047918.9010508@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905081827.39595.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Friday 08 May 2009 02:25:28 pm Paul S wrote: > Donn said the following on 05/08/2009 02:00 PM: > > If it's on your dekstop... then there it is. No? > > Remember in kde4, everything on the old desktop is now in a desktop > folder. Maybe you need to look in it. Thanks, but I have tried. Steven From paulatgm at gmail.com Fri May 8 22:51:30 2009 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 18:51:30 -0400 Subject: regression focus bug again In-Reply-To: <4A04A6C8.20501@gmail.com> References: <4A04A6C8.20501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A04B772.7020001@gmail.com> Paul S said the following on 05/08/2009 05:40 PM: > After upgrading to kde 4.2.3, I again have the focus bug where Alt-F1 > pops up menu, but it does not get focus. Same with Alt-F2 .. it opens > but no focus. Same with any window opening .. it does not get focus. > > This occurred before, and was fixed, but now is back. Or is there > something I have to reconfig? It seems to have self corrected by restarting X (ctrl-alt-backspace). regards, From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri May 8 23:04:31 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:04:31 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A047918.9010508@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905081904.31537.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Friday 08 May 2009 03:52:27 pm marc wrote: > Paul S said: > > Donn said the following on 05/08/2009 02:00 PM: > >> If it's on your dekstop... then there it is. No? > > > > Remember in kde4, everything on the old desktop is now in a desktop > > folder. Maybe you need to look in it. > > Actually, reading that, you are quite right, and I hadn't thought until > now how silly the idea is in reality. > > -- > Best, > Marc Earlier, perhaps a month or more, I couldn't get stored info into my appropriate partition. I wanted to keep the data from entering the boot partition, because of the small size of the boot partition, 20gb. I pasted my /home/ steven folder that contained what I wanted in the storage partition into /media/disk-1, a large partition outside the Operating System partition. Afterward the stored items were in a partition large enough to hold them. Nonetheless, when I open Dolphin, it contains /home/steven on the boot partition. Anytime I download a movie, it would save to the /CompletedDownloaded folder on the /boot drive, which would fill the partition up quite fast. So, I cut the /home/steven, and pasted it into the /media/disk-1/partition. Now all that data is saved to a partition large enough to hold it. Then I put a Quick Access widget on the panel with the address to the /media/disk-1/steven so that I could easily obtain access to all the data in that partition. It is a work-around that has worked, but I would like to not have to move data so much. Don't really know how to post a question to correct this; it is so confusing, nonetheless, whenever I have downloaded torrent files since the attempted reconfiguration, I have had to hunt for them. Now I can not find them. Recently I tried to create an address that would skip the cut and paste step. When I tried that, I could no longer find where the downloaded torrents went. I removed the folders that collected the data on the wrong partition. It was an attempt to force the computer to look for the folders of same name on the partition I wanted the data saved. That did not work either. Earlier today, I downloaded a half dozen torrents, which are located in a window on my desktop. I have tried everything I know to find where they are actually downloaded to, so that I could click on them and have them open in Ktorrent. I can't understand why using find or locate cannot search the system and find files with the name requested. Since I still have the downloaded torrents in a box on the desktop, why don't they show up on a 'find' or a 'locate'? If ever I can figure out how this works, it will be so much easier to use Kubuntu. It will amaze me if anyone understands my problem; I have been trying to figure out how to ask a question that could be understood. Perhaps, if someone who is willing could ask me specific questions where the answers would direct them to the understanding, that would work. I know precisely what I want to do, but my logic is defective when attempting a solution. My work-arounds are unconventional; they work, but probably screw up the normal order of things. And this particular problem has been with me since I first installed a Linux OS. Thanks for anyone willing to try. Steven From tony.caudel at sbcglobal.net Fri May 8 23:05:44 2009 From: tony.caudel at sbcglobal.net (Anthony E. Caudel) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:05:44 -0500 Subject: System-settings as root In-Reply-To: References: <42AC4531-F264-4066-99AE-6C5E1F1DAC8E@sbcglobal.net> <3dde113c0905071920q6c00a8d2pc22a3705f2053857@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F11491C-D11D-4C9B-9FA7-91DEEF3B0A44@sbcglobal.net> On May 8, 2009, at 3:58 AM, marc wrote: > Anthony E. Caudel said: > >> On May 7, 2009, at 9:20 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: >> >>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Anthony E. Caudel >>> >>> wrote: >>> Is "kdesudo systemsettings" via the CLI the only to get root >>> access to >>> the various modules of System Settings? >>> >>> No. >>> >>> Some things, like changing the time, will pop up a window >>> prompting for >>> your password to run sudo. >>> >>> I haven't run into anything I can't change just running system >>> settings >>> normally. >>> >>> >> I wanted to add some tasks to cron but the Task Scheduler does not >> ask >> for the password if I select the System cron. And everything is >> greyed >> out so I can't add any tasks. > > Same here. Can you raise a bug on it. > Seems like it's already been done. -- http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151669 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase/+bug/184491 One of them says it's been fixed (I don't believe it) Also seems like this has been around a long time. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri May 8 23:28:10 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:28:10 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905081810.05704.Grokit@ajinfosearch.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905081810.05704.Grokit@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: <200905081928.10753.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Friday 08 May 2009 06:10:05 pm Alan Dacey Sr. wrote: > On Friday 08 May 2009 01:02:17 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > > I have changed configuration in the Ktorrent application. I have > > downloaded an old movie torrent called The Peacemaker 1997. It doesn't > > show up in any location that I have chosen to save Torrents. It is > > downloaded and still on my desktop, so I am sure it is downloaded, > > nonetheless, I cannot find it anywhere in my computer using 'find' in > > Dolphin. How can I find the torrent? > > > > Steven > > Right-click on the torrent, then click on "Open Directory" (about halfway > down), then click on "Data Directory". This should open up the folder that > your movie lives in with dolphin. > > Alan That is not one of the options. Steven From paulatgm at gmail.com Sat May 9 00:02:19 2009 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 20:02:19 -0400 Subject: regression focus bug again In-Reply-To: <200905090804.43289.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> References: <4A04A6C8.20501@gmail.com> <200905090804.43289.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A04C80B.90901@gmail.com> Lindsay Mathieson said the following on 05/08/2009 06:04 PM: > On Sat, 9 May 2009 07:40:24 am Paul S wrote: > > After upgrading to kde 4.2.3, I again have the focus bug where Alt-F1 > > pops up menu, but it does not get focus. Same with Alt-F2 .. it opens > > but no focus. Same with any window opening .. it does not get focus. > > > Just tested on my 4.2.3 - not happening here. it must be one of those intermittent bugs because I did ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x and the problem disappeared. maybe it'll come back again, but i hope not. thanks for the feedback regards, From rscrawford at mossroot.com Sat May 9 00:29:41 2009 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:29:41 -0700 Subject: kdebase-runtime won't upgrade Message-ID: I'm trying to upgrade to KDE 4.2.3, and having a heck of a time because kdebase-runtime doesn't seem to want to upgrade. When I use Adept or the apt-get command line tools, the installation of KDE 4.2.3 halts because of this issue, each time throwing this error: depends on kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.2.3); however: Version of kdebase-runtime on system is 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1. Where is any of the software packages it wants to install. I have tried sudo dpkg --configure -a and sudo apt-get -f install, and both operations fail because of this issue. How can I fix this? -- Richard S. Crawford (rscrawford at mossroot.com) http://www.mossroot.com Publisher and Editor in Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 9 01:11:24 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 21:11:24 -0400 Subject: Progress of transfer. Message-ID: <200905082111.24241.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Is there a way to keep the progress window open on a transfer of data from one location to another until the transfer is complete. When I make a transfer of data in Jaunty kde 4.2.2, from one location to another, a progress window opens and shows the transfer speed for a couple of seconds and the window closes. I would like to keep the progress window open until the transfer is complete. Is this possible? Thanks, Steven From rick_knight at rlknight.com Sat May 9 01:26:55 2009 From: rick_knight at rlknight.com (Rick Knight) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 18:26:55 -0700 Subject: podcasts on CNN In-Reply-To: <20090508202047.GA510@ecopunk.info> References: <7e4994a70905081036q1b417badka104027c52e5ca0b@mail.gmail.com> <4A047C22.5080008@gmail.com> <20090508202047.GA510@ecopunk.info> Message-ID: <4A04DBDF.5000204@rlknight.com> Pyotr Kropotkin wrote: >> When I type in apt-get install quicktime, I get a "couldn't find >> package" response. What is the Linux equivalent? >> > > You'll want to install either the totem-mozilla or the mozilla-mplayer > package - either one should provide the plugin you need. Your friendly > neighborhood package manager (synaptic, aptitude, etc.) should do the > trick; for example, to install using aptitude you'll ned to open up a > terminal and type > > sudo aptitude install totem-mozilla > > to install the totem-mozilla plugin and its dependencies. > > I've had mixed success playing MP4/M4V files with the codecs available > on a vanilla *buntu system. I would suggest also installing the > non-free-codecs provided by the Medibuntu project. You can find > instructions about how to do so here: > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu > > Doing so will also ensure you have functional installations of Flash, > Java, etc. > > Hope this helps! > > - Pyotr > pyotr at riseup.net > > OK, I tried this on my pretty fresh install of 8.04. I have the mddibuntu sources in apt and I already had mplayer installed. Using apt-get I installed mozilla-mplayer and everything it suggested. When I try tol isten to a podcast on www.cnn.com, I get message stating that an additional plugin is required. When I try to install the plugin, one can't be found. It's looking for an "audio/mplayer" plugin. When I click the link to install manually I'm re-directed to the Apple QuickTime page. Is there a linux equivalent for this plugin? Thanks, Rick From rick_knight at rlknight.com Sat May 9 01:48:56 2009 From: rick_knight at rlknight.com (Rick Knight) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 18:48:56 -0700 Subject: podcasts on CNN In-Reply-To: <4A04DBDF.5000204@rlknight.com> References: <7e4994a70905081036q1b417badka104027c52e5ca0b@mail.gmail.com> <4A047C22.5080008@gmail.com> <20090508202047.GA510@ecopunk.info> <4A04DBDF.5000204@rlknight.com> Message-ID: <4A04E108.7070406@rlknight.com> Rick Knight wrote: > Pyotr Kropotkin wrote: > >>> When I type in apt-get install quicktime, I get a "couldn't find >>> package" response. What is the Linux equivalent? >>> >>> >> You'll want to install either the totem-mozilla or the mozilla-mplayer >> package - either one should provide the plugin you need. Your friendly >> neighborhood package manager (synaptic, aptitude, etc.) should do the >> trick; for example, to install using aptitude you'll ned to open up a >> terminal and type >> >> sudo aptitude install totem-mozilla >> >> to install the totem-mozilla plugin and its dependencies. >> >> I've had mixed success playing MP4/M4V files with the codecs available >> on a vanilla *buntu system. I would suggest also installing the >> non-free-codecs provided by the Medibuntu project. You can find >> instructions about how to do so here: >> >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu >> >> Doing so will also ensure you have functional installations of Flash, >> Java, etc. >> >> Hope this helps! >> >> - Pyotr >> pyotr at riseup.net >> >> >> > OK, I tried this on my pretty fresh install of 8.04. I have the > mddibuntu sources in apt and I already had mplayer installed. Using > apt-get I installed mozilla-mplayer and everything it suggested. When I > try tol isten to a podcast on www.cnn.com, I get message stating that an > additional plugin is required. When I try to install the plugin, one > can't be found. It's looking for an "audio/mplayer" plugin. When I click > the link to install manually I'm re-directed to the Apple QuickTime > page. Is there a linux equivalent for this plugin? > > Thanks, > Rick > > Nevermind, I restarted Firefox and now it works. Thanks, Rick From errol at tzora.co.il Sat May 9 04:02:31 2009 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 07:02:31 +0300 Subject: Progress of transfer. In-Reply-To: <200905082111.24241.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905082111.24241.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A050057.9080801@tzora.co.il> Steven Vollom wrote: > Is there a way to keep the progress window open on a transfer of data from one > location to another until the transfer is complete. When I make a transfer of > data in Jaunty kde 4.2.2, from one location to another, a progress window > opens and shows the transfer speed for a couple of seconds and the window > closes. > > I would like to keep the progress window open until the transfer is complete. > Is this possible? > > Thanks, > > Steven > > I don't know how you do it as default, but when transferring files a blue icon with the letter "i" opens on the panel. A click on that opens the progress windows (and it stays open). Errol From wayward4now at gmail.com Sat May 9 05:08:33 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 01:08:33 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <1241756713.6271.113.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <1241845713.20543.84.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 08:15 +0000, marc wrote: > Ric Moore said: > > But this may shed some light... When I worked at RedHat, I could never > > get my Ex's printer to work. Darn embarrassing to be on the Help Desk > > fixing everyone elses printers. We had one whizbang that fired up emacs, > > had ten terminals with code pouring down the screens like the matrix. > > Impressed me! Then he started narrowing down the problem to samba not > > being configured correctly. I'm going she doesn't NEED Samba and I > > ripped it out. The printer worked right off. Samba was trying to network > > a printer that hadn't been configured correctly for the system. The cart > > before the horse, so to speak. You can rip out Samba, after saving > > config files if you need it or rip it out for good if you don't need it. > > One less thing in the way. > > I'll give that a spin. Thanks. Let us know how it works. I later re-installed Samba on her machine and it picked up on the local printer it found and configured it for use easily. I guess it needs to be configured locally before the install of samba. It would be interesting if this was indeed the case. Good Luck! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From gmane at auxbuss.com Sat May 9 08:35:09 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 08:35:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: regression focus bug again References: <4A04A6C8.20501@gmail.com> Message-ID: Paul S said: > After upgrading to kde 4.2.3, I again have the focus bug where Alt-F1 > pops up menu, but it does not get focus. Same with Alt-F2 .. it opens > but no focus. Same with any window opening .. it does not get focus. > > This occurred before, and was fixed, but now is back. Or is there > something I have to reconfig? Yup, I get this occasionally. It seems to correct itself after a logout or suspend. Very irritating, though. -- Best, Marc From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 9 09:28:07 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 05:28:07 -0400 Subject: Progress of transfer. In-Reply-To: <4A050057.9080801@tzora.co.il> References: <200905082111.24241.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A050057.9080801@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <200905090528.07769.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Saturday 09 May 2009 12:02:31 am Errol Sapir wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > > Is there a way to keep the progress window open on a transfer of data > > from one location to another until the transfer is complete. When I make > > a transfer of data in Jaunty kde 4.2.2, from one location to another, a > > progress window opens and shows the transfer speed for a couple of > > seconds and the window closes. > > > > I would like to keep the progress window open until the transfer is > > complete. Is this possible? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steven > > I don't know how you do it as default, but when transferring files a > blue icon with the letter "i" opens on the panel. A click on that opens > the progress windows (and it stays open). > Errol Thank you Errol. What made you think to try that? It is just what I have wanted; is that a normal procedure for that type of thing? I can't think of other similar situations, however, I have had brief openings of windows I would have preferred staying open either longer or until finish. Certainly I will look for that as an option then too, however, I am curious how you found this? Don't bother if you don't want, but on this issue I am interested in understanding both how you learned this step, as well as, why the brief showing only happens in the first place. I have wondered for a long time. Steven From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Sat May 9 12:14:34 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 09:14:34 -0300 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905081904.31537.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A047918.9010508@gmail.com> <200905081904.31537.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905090514g3280bd84vc32f20e8725424c7@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 20:04, Steven Vollom wrote: > On Friday 08 May 2009 03:52:27 pm marc wrote: >> Paul S said: >> > Donn said the following on 05/08/2009 02:00 PM: >> >> If it's on your dekstop... then there it is. No? >> > >> > Remember in kde4, everything on the old desktop is now in a desktop >> > folder.  Maybe you need to look in it. >> >> Actually, reading that, you are quite right, and I hadn't thought until >> now how silly the idea is in reality. >> >> -- >> Best, >> Marc > Earlier, perhaps a month or more, I couldn't get stored info into my > appropriate partition.  I wanted to keep the data from entering the boot > partition, because of the small size of the boot partition, 20gb.  I pasted my > /home/ steven folder that contained what I wanted in the storage partition > into /media/disk-1, a large partition outside the Operating System partition. > Afterward the stored items were in a partition large enough to hold them. > Nonetheless, when I open Dolphin, it contains /home/steven on the boot > partition.  Anytime I download a movie, it would save to the > /CompletedDownloaded folder on the /boot drive, which would fill the partition > up quite fast.  So, I cut the /home/steven, and pasted it into the > /media/disk-1/partition.  Now all that data is saved to a partition large > enough to hold it.  Then I put a Quick Access widget on the panel with the > address to the /media/disk-1/steven so that I could easily obtain access to > all the data in that partition. > > It is a work-around that has worked, but I would like to not have to move data > so much.  Don't really know how to post a question to correct this; it is so > confusing, nonetheless, whenever I have downloaded torrent files since the > attempted reconfiguration, I have had to hunt for them.  Now I can not find > them. > > Recently I tried to create an address that would skip the cut and paste step. > When I tried that, I could no longer find where the downloaded torrents went. > I removed the folders that collected the data on the wrong partition.  It was > an attempt to force the computer to look for the folders of same name on the > partition I wanted the data saved.  That did not work either. > > Earlier today, I downloaded a half dozen torrents, which are located in a > window on my desktop.  I have tried everything I know to find where they are > actually downloaded to, so that I could click on them and have them open in > Ktorrent. > > I can't understand why using find or locate cannot search the system and find > files with the name requested.  Since I still have the downloaded torrents in a > box on the desktop, why don't they show up on a 'find' or a 'locate'?  If ever > I can figure out how this works, it will be so much easier to use Kubuntu. > > It will amaze me if anyone understands my problem; I have been trying to figure > out how to ask a question that could be understood.  Perhaps, if someone who > is willing could ask me specific questions where the answers would direct them > to the understanding, that would work.  I know precisely what I want to do, > but my logic is defective when attempting a solution.  My work-arounds are > unconventional; they work, but probably screw up the normal order of things. > And this particular problem has been with me since I first installed a Linux > OS.  Thanks for anyone willing to try. > > Steven Lets see... you want to move all the contents of your /home/steven to /media/disk-1/steven, right? You have been doing something to try to do that, creating folders, moving stuff around and such. But everytime you open Dolphin is "insists", in showing you the stuff at /home/steven right? For what I get you are trying to move your home folder to another partition, what, really, is not as simple as moving a folder around, because you have just moved the contents of the folder, but Linux still "knows" it is located in /home/steven. If you really want to move it to other partition take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving Know that this is kind of a "advanced" option, so you might endup with a system where you can't logon as your normal user (nothing you can't recovery of, but still worth the warning). But, if all you want is to save your stuff in other folders your best bet is to change the configuration of you apps, like ktorrent, so that they save stuff on /media/disk-1/torrent (for example). Did I get you right? Does any of this options solve you atual situation? By the way, aren't your torrents are being saved in /home/steven/Desktop? Try browsing there with Dolphin to see if they are there. Cheers From errol at tzora.co.il Sat May 9 13:39:18 2009 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 16:39:18 +0300 Subject: Progress of transfer. In-Reply-To: <200905090528.07769.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905082111.24241.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A050057.9080801@tzora.co.il> <200905090528.07769.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A058786.3020105@tzora.co.il> Steven Vollom wrote: > On Saturday 09 May 2009 12:02:31 am Errol Sapir wrote: > >> Steven Vollom wrote: >> >>> Is there a way to keep the progress window open on a transfer of data >>> from one location to another until the transfer is complete. When I make >>> a transfer of data in Jaunty kde 4.2.2, from one location to another, a >>> progress window opens and shows the transfer speed for a couple of >>> seconds and the window closes. >>> >>> I would like to keep the progress window open until the transfer is >>> complete. Is this possible? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Steven >>> >> I don't know how you do it as default, but when transferring files a >> blue icon with the letter "i" opens on the panel. A click on that opens >> the progress windows (and it stays open). >> Errol >> > Thank you Errol. What made you think to try that? It is just what I have > wanted; is that a normal procedure for that type of thing? I can't think of > other similar situations, however, I have had brief openings of windows I > would have preferred staying open either longer or until finish. Certainly I > will look for that as an option then too, however, I am curious how you found > this? Don't bother if you don't want, but on this issue I am interested in > understanding both how you learned this step, as well as, why the brief > showing only happens in the first place. I have wondered for a long time. > > Steven > > Steven I didn't do anything special. Like you I didn't know when a transfer was completed but noticed this blue circular icon on the panel. When clicking on it I got the transfer progression shown to me. By the way if you have multiple transfers, the same icon when clicked on, will show the progression of each transfer separately. As I said, though, I don't know how to make this a open as default. Errol -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eamner at yahoo.com Sat May 9 14:29:45 2009 From: eamner at yahoo.com (Eric Marquez) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 07:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <156730.14751.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> marc said: >9.04 is definitely running a lot hotter here. I have also noticed that >kwin sometimes "runs away"; sits at 50%+ cpu, which causes things to run >very hot. I've no idea what is setting this off, but now that I'm aware >of it, I've started watching. >I'd try running without compositing: System Settings/Desktop/Enable >desktop effects -> unchecked. >Xref this bug, I'm pretty sure that there are a few xorg + video driver >bugs lurking - there are large regressions in 9.04: Ric Moore said: > What nvidia drivers do you have installed?? If I were you, I'd install >the envyNG package and let it install your nVidia for you. Drivers like >NV just don't cut it if you want/need the real deal with everything >cooking. I run Java 3D Wonderland and it'll bark, howl and die with >anything else than the driver from nVidia. Not trying to be politically >incorrect here, but either it works or it don't. Give that a whirl. >Sounds like you have nothing to loose. Ric marc, ric: my computer freezes even without video drivers installed. The day I formatted the system and installed kubuntu, it was freezed before installing anything. I have the 180.51 nvidia driver right now. And it happens with/out the desktop effects. And the problem is not exclusive of Jaunty. This is been happening since I upgraded from kde3 to kde4 (with 8.04). Personally, I suspect it doesn't have to do with drivers (at least not with the ones I've installed)... but with some hardware problem/incompatibility... I'd like to know if there is some way to diagnose this. Ric, I'll try your envyNG suggestion anyway... Any other suggestion? 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This should open up the folder > > that your movie lives in with dolphin. > > > > Alan > > That is not one of the options. It took me a couple of tries to do this so to do this: Open ktorrent. If you are in the Downloads tab and there are currently no torrents shown switch to the Uploads tab. Now rightclick on one of the listed torrents. Choose Open Directory->Data Directory Hope that helps. John Vifian -- Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. Mark Twain From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 9 16:01:35 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 12:01:35 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Security Tools Message-ID: <200905091201.35487.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Are the Kubuntu Security Tools included in the OS download? If not is there an application that contains all the Kubuntu Security Tools? Thanks! Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 9 16:02:26 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 12:02:26 -0400 Subject: Specific word locater. Message-ID: <200905091202.26578.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> It has been a very long time since I have used Windows. I remember the capability to type in words, just like I do when I Google, and if it was in the computer it would show the location of what I typed---every instance with its location. I miss that feature. Every time I use the find or locate option in Dolphin, it is only occasional that I am able to find what I am looking for. For instance: If I type a name of a movie into find, I would expect to find an address for that movie every place it existed in my computer, if in fact it were in my computer, but that is not the case with Dolphin, as far as I have experienced. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 9 16:20:00 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 12:20:00 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905090853.05044.jongleur@liripipe.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905081928.10753.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905090853.05044.jongleur@liripipe.com> Message-ID: <200905091220.00210.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Saturday 09 May 2009 11:53:04 am John L Vifian wrote: > On Friday 08 May 2009 4:28:10 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > > > Right-click on the torrent, then click on "Open Directory" (about > > > halfway down), then click on "Data Directory". This should open up the > > > folder that your movie lives in with dolphin. > > > > > > Alan > > > > That is not one of the options. > > It took me a couple of tries to do this so to do this: > > Open ktorrent. > If you are in the Downloads tab and there are currently no torrents shown > switch to the Uploads tab. > Now rightclick on one of the listed torrents. > Choose Open Directory->Data Directory > > Hope that helps. > > John Vifian > -- > Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are > putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. > Mark Twain I believe I am one of Mark Twain's imbeciles. I have done as you suggested. The 'Data Diretory' contains a movie that I am uploading but do not intend to keep. It is not for me, but I always return what I borrow. In any event, I have a download list of approximately 6 movies, none of which will install in the torrent package. I even installed a second Torrent Application 'Deluge' to see if that might work. So I now have Deluge and Ktorrent. I seem to remember sending you a print-screen of my desktop which has the page that lists them. I can resend if you like, however, if I double-click on any of those in the list they 'do not' install in the Torrent Application. Neither can I drag and drop them. I have attempted so many reconfigurations that I no longer can remember the original that worked. I have another post relating to 'find' and 'locate' objectives, that was posted partially due to the problem I am having here. I thought if I could fine the folder that contains the list of downloaded Torrents that appear in a window on my desktop, I could perhaps locate and enter that folder and attempt double-clicking from there. I am sure your advice works fine most of the time, and I have done something that makes my situation different, but if you are willing to add any new ideas, I would appreciate it. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 9 16:22:32 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 12:22:32 -0400 Subject: Progress of transfer. In-Reply-To: <4A058786.3020105@tzora.co.il> References: <200905082111.24241.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905090528.07769.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A058786.3020105@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <200905091222.32492.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> (Trimmed) > Steven I didn't do anything special. Like you I didn't know when a > transfer was completed but noticed this blue circular icon on the panel. > When clicking on it I got the transfer progression shown to me. By the > way if you have multiple transfers, the same icon when clicked on, will > show the progression of each transfer separately. > As I said, though, I don't know how to make this a open as default. > Errol Thanks again Errol. It sure is nice to be able to do it the way you described. If I find a solution to make it default, I will write and tell you. Steven From myriam at ubuntu.com Sat May 9 17:12:20 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 19:12:20 +0200 Subject: kdebase-runtime won't upgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Richard, On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 02:29, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > I'm trying to upgrade to KDE 4.2.3, and having a heck of a time > because kdebase-runtime doesn't seem to want to upgrade. When I use > Adept or the apt-get command line tools, the installation of KDE 4.2.3 > halts because of this issue, each time throwing this error: > >   depends on kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.2.3); however: >  Version of kdebase-runtime on system is 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1. Just be patient, you began to upgrade when not all packages were uploaded yet. Keep in mind that there are hundreds of packages to package for 3 architectures and to upload, a task which is not done in a few minutes. Worked without problems here after a few hours. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From myriam at ubuntu.com Sat May 9 17:15:37 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 19:15:37 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Security Tools In-Reply-To: <200905091201.35487.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905091201.35487.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hi Steven, On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 18:01, Steven Vollom wrote: > Are the Kubuntu Security Tools included in the OS download?  If not is there > an application that contains all the Kubuntu Security Tools? What do you mean by "Kubuntu Security Tools"? What security features do you expect to be covered? Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 9 17:22:56 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 13:22:56 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <4c6e034d0905090514g3280bd84vc32f20e8725424c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905081904.31537.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4c6e034d0905090514g3280bd84vc32f20e8725424c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905091322.56993.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> (Trimmed) > > Steven > > Lets see... you want to move all the contents of your /home/steven to > /media/disk-1/steven, right? > You have been doing something to try to do that, creating folders, > moving stuff around and such. > But everytime you open Dolphin is "insists", in showing you the stuff > at /home/steven right? Early in the attempt at working around the problem, I created a folder and copied the 'steven' folder of /home/steven into that folder. I called it steven just like it was named previously, and put it into /media/disk-1, which is the storage partition that I wanted all data transferred into. That would take it off the '/' boot partition which contained my OS and all other applications. I instructed the torrent program to move data to the folders in the /steven folder in the storage partition. The self-same folders still exhisted in the boot partition, but were no longer intended to be used to store large downloads. In any event I was unable to figure out how to instruct the computer to move data to the Download folder in the disk-1 partition; data was transferred to the boot partition of the same name instead. Likewise, when the download was complete, it was to be transferred to the CompletedDownloads file, from which I would go to use the data. Apparently since the /home/steven folder contains all the original data and folders, the torrent program continues to send the data to those folders, defeating the purpose I created in the path. I changed the path in the Torrent application to send to /media/disk-1/steven/ which should have directed the files there, but instead the computer continues to put them in the same-named folder in the boot partition. My work-around has been to monitor the downloads and upon completion and upload of the data to other torrent users, then manually remove and place the data in /media/disk-1/steven. As you can see, I am not the brightest bulb on the tree, but I have been able to keep from accidentally overloading my boot partition which would crash the system. Now that I have instructed Ktorrent the appropriate path to follow, it still resists the instruction, and I seem to be stuck with the old path and the extra manual labor. > For what I get you are trying to move your home folder to another > partition, what, really, is not as simple as moving a folder around, > because you have just moved the contents of the folder, but Linux > still "knows" it is located in /home/steven. > If you really want to move it to other partition take a look here: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving > > Know that this is kind of a "advanced" option, so you might endup with > a system where you can't logon as your normal user (nothing you can't > recovery of, but still worth the warning). > > But, if all you want is to save your stuff in other folders your best > bet is to change the configuration of you apps, like ktorrent, so that > they save stuff on /media/disk-1/torrent (for example). This is what I did. In Ktorrent, I created the following /media/disk-1/Downloads (for data that was in the process of downloading) then /media/disk-1/CompletedDownloads for the completed download to be held permanently. I also created the /media/disk-1/Torrents folder, but the torrents never end up there. Don't know why, and Downloads continue to go to the Download folder on the root partition, where I have to leave them until I have uploaded as much as I have downloaded. Then I manually move the data to the CompletedDownloads folder of /media/disk-1/steven/CompletedDownloads. My goal had been to have the downloads go directly to /media/disk-1/steven/Downloads, then automatically move finished to the permanent location CompletedDownloads. I also installed a Quick Access widget to the panel and changed the address to /media/disk-1/steven and all saved data became immediately available from there. When it is working, it is wonderful. Everything, photos, movies, commandline code, documents, even my desktop was there fast and efficient. Additionally no data is vulnerable to a system failure; only a broken hard- drive could cause loss of the data. My new HDD will be used for backup only, and everything should be safe from there on. My friend Dotan Cohen has recommended that I change my partitions from Extended, which contains my storage partitions to primary partitions, so I am inclined to do that prior to using your website reference. I hope I am up to the task of the site you referred me; I am still a little green in the use of the konsole. Thanks for the help; if you see any holes in my understanding, please reply with a warning, so I avoid losing data. Steven > > Did I get you right? Does any of this options solve you atual situation? > By the way, aren't your torrents are being saved in > /home/steven/Desktop? Try browsing there with Dolphin to see if they > are there. > > Cheers From myriam at ubuntu.com Sat May 9 17:44:30 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 19:44:30 +0200 Subject: Specific word locater. In-Reply-To: <200905091202.26578.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905091202.26578.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hi steven, On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 18:02, Steven Vollom wrote: ... > > Every time I use the find or locate option in Dolphin, it is only occasional > that I am able to find what I am looking for. > > For instance:  If I type a name of a movie into find, I would expect to find an > address for that movie every place it existed in my computer, if in fact it > were in my computer, but that is not the case with Dolphin, as far as I have > experienced. You must have an index of your data before being able to find anything: go to system settings - Advanced Tag -> Desktop search activate Nepomuk and let it run. This might take some time, depending on the amount of data you actually have on your computer. There is a "Advanced settings" tab where you can choose the locations you want to include into the indexing. Don't include any system folders, that would make the search useless, as the locate database underlying every Linux system already contains those files, so no need to add those again for another index. Once the indexing completed, which you can see if you check the memory load of nepomukestorage with top, activate the strigi search feature, then restart KDE. IIRC, there are some issues with Strigi, but can't lay a hand on the relevant bug right now. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 9 17:44:35 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 13:44:35 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Security Tools In-Reply-To: References: <200905091201.35487.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905091344.35623.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Saturday 09 May 2009 01:15:37 pm Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Steven, > > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 18:01, Steven Vollom wrote: > > Are the Kubuntu Security Tools included in the OS download? If not is > > there an application that contains all the Kubuntu Security Tools? > > What do you mean by "Kubuntu Security Tools"? What security features > do you expect to be covered? (Trimmed) I am a bit embarrassed, Myriam. I have been focusing on some complicated issues and don't remember exactly what spurred that post. I was working a problem that involved research https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving, during the reading of the instructions it made reference to Kubuntu Security Tools and offered a download. The link did not send me to the download, and I couldn't find it in KPackageKit, and the command did not work in Konsole, and it still sounded very important, so I asked. I don't remember my post, but I thought I asked if most security issues were covered in the installation of Jaunty or KDE, or was there an application that would provide same. I am in the process of unlearning some error introduced in my computer career about 20 years ago. I expect it will solve a plethora of misunderstood reoccurring problems. Thanks for the interest. Steven From crisnoh at gmail.com Sat May 9 14:46:15 2009 From: crisnoh at gmail.com (Cristopher Thomas) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 10:46:15 -0400 Subject: Network problems on resume In-Reply-To: <4A030C00.9020907@gmail.com> References: <200905062332.17763.crisnoh@gmail.com> <4A030C00.9020907@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905091046.21254.crisnoh@gmail.com> On Thursday 07 May 2009 12:27:44 pm Paul S wrote: > Somethings not resuming properly, and it's difficult / impossible to > find out what. You may be able to just suspend / resume again to fix > it. If it's just the network, you might be able to just disable / > enable it in network manager to get it to run dhcp again. Also, running > "sudo dhclient" in konsole might work. These don't fix the problem, but > probably are quicker than rebooting. > > hth Those didn't seem to produce any results. Here's the output from dhclient: $ sudo dhclient wlan0 There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 17386 killed old client process, removed PID file Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.1.1 Copyright 2004-2008 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/ wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801 wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801 Listening on LPF/wlan0/00:17:c4:46:ab:a0 Sending on LPF/wlan0/00:17:c4:46:ab:a0 Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10 DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13 DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13 DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20 No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. -- | GPG Key : D7800549 | crisnoh.wordpress.com | www.twitter.com/crisnoh o|||||||o -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jongleur at liripipe.com Sat May 9 18:05:47 2009 From: jongleur at liripipe.com (John L Vifian) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 11:05:47 -0700 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905091220.00210.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905090853.05044.jongleur@liripipe.com> <200905091220.00210.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905091105.47780.jongleur@liripipe.com> On Saturday 09 May 2009 9:20:00 am Steven Vollom wrote: > > In any event, I have a download list of approximately 6 movies, none of > which will install in the torrent package. I even installed a second > Torrent Application 'Deluge' to see if that might work. So I now have > Deluge and Ktorrent. What is in your uploads tab? That is where my downloaded files go to stay unless I delete them. John Vifian -- Exuberance is better than taste. Gustave Flaubert From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 9 18:15:29 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 14:15:29 -0400 Subject: Specific word locater. In-Reply-To: References: <200905091202.26578.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905091415.29358.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Saturday 09 May 2009 01:44:30 pm Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi steven, > > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 18:02, Steven Vollom > wrote: ... > > > Every time I use the find or locate option in Dolphin, it is only > > occasional that I am able to find what I am looking for. > > > > For instance: If I type a name of a movie into find, I would expect to > > find an address for that movie every place it existed in my computer, if > > in fact it were in my computer, but that is not the case with Dolphin, as > > far as I have experienced. > > You must have an index of your data before being able to find anything: > > go to system settings - Advanced Tag -> Desktop search > > activate Nepomuk and let it run. This might take some time, depending > on the amount of data you actually have on your computer. > There is a "Advanced settings" tab where you can choose the locations > you want to include into the indexing. > Don't include any system folders, that would make the search useless, > as the locate database underlying every Linux system already contains > those files, so no need to add those again for another index. > > Once the indexing completed, which you can see if you check the memory > load of nepomukestorage with top, activate the strigi search feature, > then restart KDE. > > IIRC, there are some issues with Strigi, but can't lay a hand on the > relevant bug right now. > > > Regards, Myriam. > > -- > Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: > http://www.fsfe.org > Please don't send me proprietary file formats, > use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) Dear Myriam, Here is what showed after applying the check-mark to the two boxes. I can hear the computer working very hard, so it must at least be doing the Nepomuke work. Failed to contact Strigi indexer (Could not get owner of name 'org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstrigiservice': no such name) Where is Nepomuke located. I looked under every option in the menu and did not find mention of Nepomuke. Steven From myriam at ubuntu.com Sat May 9 18:16:39 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 20:16:39 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Security Tools In-Reply-To: <200905091344.35623.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905091201.35487.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905091344.35623.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hi Steven, On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 19:44, Steven Vollom wrote: > On Saturday 09 May 2009 01:15:37 pm Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >> Hi Steven, >> >> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 18:01, Steven Vollom > wrote: >> > Are the Kubuntu Security Tools included in the OS download?  If not is >> > there an application that contains all the Kubuntu Security Tools? >> >> What do you mean by "Kubuntu Security Tools"? What security features >> do you expect to be covered? > (Trimmed) > I am a bit embarrassed, Myriam.  I have been focusing on some complicated > issues and don't remember exactly what spurred that post.  I was working a > problem that involved research > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving, during the reading > of the instructions it made reference to Kubuntu Security Tools and offered a > download. There is no particular package that would give you *all* security tools, and there are various definitions of what a security tool could be: - gpg for signing and encrypting files, - iptables etc. for firewall settings, - clamav for virus scanning, - kdewallet for storing passwords in an encrypted wallet, etc. Basically, a Linux installation like Kubuntu is a secure system, as there are no open ports by default that would allow intrusions without anybody noticing. Ports are opened when the user decides to do so and usually do not remain open without need. This of course always depends on the user behavior, like not using root logins without absolute necessity, etc. Also, some of the so called "security tools" are part of the basic installation, so for the average user there is no need to install more for every day use. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 9 18:31:28 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 14:31:28 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905091105.47780.jongleur@liripipe.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905091220.00210.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905091105.47780.jongleur@liripipe.com> Message-ID: <200905091431.28885.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Saturday 09 May 2009 02:05:47 pm John L Vifian wrote: > On Saturday 09 May 2009 9:20:00 am Steven Vollom wrote: > > In any event, I have a download list of approximately 6 movies, none of > > which will install in the torrent package. I even installed a second > > Torrent Application 'Deluge' to see if that might work. So I now have > > Deluge and Ktorrent. > > What is in your uploads tab? In the new issue of Ktorrent, there is no uploads tab that I can find. I clicked on the uploading title. I could send a screen print if that would help you understand my application. Steven > > That is where my downloaded files go to stay unless I delete them. > > John Vifian > -- > Exuberance is better than taste. > Gustave Flaubert From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sat May 9 22:04:48 2009 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 22:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: How to turn off IPV6 Message-ID: <1280850847.6611231241906688674.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> How can I inactivate IPV6 in 9.04? The instructions on the wiki are for 8.04 and earlier and refer to files whose names have obviously changed. Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I didn't notice any speedup here, but I do use OpenDNS which speeds address lookups a lot. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From claydoh at midmaine.com Sat May 9 23:15:14 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 19:15:14 -0400 Subject: How to turn off IPV6 In-Reply-To: <200905091850.52901.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <1280850847.6611231241906688674.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <200905091850.52901.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <200905091915.14360.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Saturday 09 May 2009 6:50:52 pm Clay Weber wrote: > On Saturday 09 May 2009 6:04:48 pm pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > > How can I inactivate IPV6 in 9.04? The instructions on the wiki are for > > 8.04 and earlier and refer to files whose names have obviously changed. > > Paul > > A google search on "jaunty ipv6" > brought me this: > http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/04/howto-disable-ipv6-at-ubuntu-jaunty.htm >l > > ipv6 is built into the kernel now, so either of the 2 methods described are > required. I didn't notice any speedup here, but I do use OpenDNS which > speeds address lookups a lot. > But it doesn't stick after a reboot :( Unless it is your router that doesn't support ipv6, I suggest trying out opendns.com if you are experiencing slow page lookups -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From mdhirsch at gmail.com Sat May 9 23:19:39 2009 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 17:19:39 -0600 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905081904.31537.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A047918.9010508@gmail.com> <200905081904.31537.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0905091619l6dc6633ydfe511b7a5d2a049@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Steven Vollom wrote: > Earlier, perhaps a month or more, I couldn't get stored info into my > appropriate partition.  I wanted to keep the data from entering the boot > partition, because of the small size of the boot partition, 20gb.  I pasted my > /home/ steven folder that contained what I wanted in the storage partition > into /media/disk-1, a large partition outside the Operating System partition. > Afterward the stored items were in a partition large enough to hold them. > Nonetheless, when I open Dolphin, it contains /home/steven on the boot > partition.  Anytime I download a movie, it would save to the > /CompletedDownloaded folder on the /boot drive, which would fill the partition > up quite fast.  So, I cut the /home/steven, and pasted it into the > /media/disk-1/partition.  Now all that data is saved to a partition large > enough to hold it.  Then I put a Quick Access widget on the panel with the > address to the /media/disk-1/steven so that I could easily obtain access to > all the data in that partition. Steven, Here are 3 potential solutions for you. 1. As other have suggetsed, you can shange the location where various apps store their downloads. The downside to this is that you must configure each application separately. 2. I would recommend that you move your entire /home directory to another partition. mount your (empty) partition at say /media/mnt and copy all of home there "sudo cp -a /home/* /media/mnt". Now edit your /etc/fstab. Add a line to mount your formerly empty partition at /home. Reboot. When you reboot your /home will be the new partition. since it is done by a mount, it is transparent to any applications. All home files will be kept on the partition. 3. Use symlinks. I do this for my media files. I mount the other partition on /Media and I create directories on another partition with lots of space named, say, "Videos" or "Music". Then I create symbolic links to them "ln -s /Media/Music $HOME". Then I make sure that such files are put in "~/Music". This has some similarities to solution 1. For simplicity, you can't beat solution 1. It has a second benefit of keeping your home directories separate from your OS files, so if you even need to reinstall the OS, or put in an alternate OS, you can do so without worrying about your home files. Michael From wayward4now at gmail.com Sun May 10 02:15:02 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 22:15:02 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905091322.56993.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905081904.31537.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4c6e034d0905090514g3280bd84vc32f20e8725424c7@mail.gmail.com> <200905091322.56993.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1241921702.27388.61.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 13:22 -0400, Steven Vollom wrote: > Thanks for the help; if you see any holes in my understanding, > please reply with a warning, so I avoid losing data. I'd sure be doing SOMETHING different, like leaving the /media folder alone. There's all sorts of places to put stuff rather that a directory where devices auto-mount. It is not an entertainment file/content directory, as you keep thinking and as I have repeatably kept telling you it's not. The -computer- and Linux OS uses that directory, it was not meant for man to use it. While you can do anything you please, put stuff in places where no one has gone before, why dink with it as you're not at a proficiency level to do so?? Now, check this. I just typed ls -la to my /media directory In there I have a file named "cdrom" which is link to the directory cdrom0 A locate on cdrom does not show the file /media/cdrom nor does locate find the directory cdrom0 So, I touched a file named "ric" in /media, ran updatedb and a locate does not find it either. ERGO, I'm guessing the damn computer knows better than to look there, as >>nothing lasting should be there<< Leave it alone to do what it's supposed to do. Or, dink with the locate utility to make it bend to your will, so you can keep on doing what you want to do. Locate evidently doesn't waste it's time scouting around /media nor it's sub directories, ...so please don't waste ours. Use /opt ...It's whole purpose is to safely do strange things there. -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Sun May 10 02:36:07 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 22:36:07 -0400 Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <156730.14751.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <156730.14751.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1241922967.27388.70.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 07:29 -0700, Eric Marquez wrote: > marc said: > > >9.04 is definitely running a lot hotter here. I have also noticed > that > >kwin sometimes "runs away"; sits at 50%+ cpu, which causes things to > run > >very hot. I've no idea what is setting this off, but now that I'm > aware > >of it, I've started watching. > > >I'd try running without compositing: System Settings/Desktop/Enable > >desktop effects -> unchecked. > > >Xref this bug, I'm pretty sure that there are a few xorg + video > driver > >bugs lurking - there are large regressions in 9.04: > > Ric Moore said: > > What nvidia drivers do you have installed?? If I were you, I'd > install > >the envyNG package and let it install your nVidia for you. Drivers > like > >NV just don't cut it if you want/need the real deal with everything > >cooking. I run Java 3D Wonderland and it'll bark, howl and die with > >anything else than the driver from nVidia. Not trying to be > politically > >incorrect here, but either it works or it don't. Give that a whirl. > >Sounds like you have nothing to loose. Ric > > marc, ric: my computer freezes even without video drivers installed. > The day I formatted the system and installed kubuntu, it was > freezed before installing anything. I have the 180.51 nvidia driver > right now. And it happens with/out the desktop effects. And the > problem is not exclusive of Jaunty. This is been happening since I > upgraded from kde3 to kde4 (with 8.04). > Personally, I suspect it doesn't have to do with drivers (at least > not with the ones I've installed)... but with some hardware > problem/incompatibility... I'd like to know if there is some way to > diagnose this. > Ric, I'll try your envyNG suggestion anyway... > Any other suggestion? Wow, it sounds darn near like a power supply problem. When I first bought my then Big Tower and did a fresh install to it, which was flaky from beginning to end. It worked for several hours then the desktop would disappear, or random segfaults and just crazy things happening. No two crashes were alike, and it wasn't until the second/third day someone told me "power supply". So, I went back to the dealer, he replaced it and several years later, if something strange happens, it's the idiot between the chair and the keyboard fault. The system itself has been very consistent since. I dunno, trouble shooting with a shotgun. Hey Gene, what do you think?? :) Ric > -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From jonorland at gmail.com Sun May 10 06:29:45 2009 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 08:29:45 +0200 Subject: Specific word locater. In-Reply-To: References: <200905091202.26578.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi steven, > > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 18:02, Steven Vollom wrote: > ... >> >> Every time I use the find or locate option in Dolphin, it is only occasional >> that I am able to find what I am looking for. >> >> For instance:  If I type a name of a movie into find, I would expect to find an >> address for that movie every place it existed in my computer, if in fact it >> were in my computer, but that is not the case with Dolphin, as far as I have >> experienced. > > You must have an index of your data before being able to find anything: > > go to system settings - Advanced Tag -> Desktop search > > activate Nepomuk and let it run. This might take some time, depending > on the amount of data you actually have on your computer. > There is a "Advanced settings" tab where you can choose the locations > you want to include into the indexing. > Don't include any system folders, that would make the search useless, > as the locate database underlying every Linux system already contains > those files, so no need to add those again for another index. Why not exclude the home directory also then as updatedb is index them to? See /etc/updatedb.conf for the path and file systems that updatedb is excluding. > IIRC, there are some issues with Strigi, but can't lay a hand on the > relevant bug right now. In Intrepid Strigi is deactivated and wont run as there is no backend it can use, I don't know if its fixed in Jaunty. / Jonas From jonorland at gmail.com Sun May 10 06:48:44 2009 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 08:48:44 +0200 Subject: How to turn off IPV6 In-Reply-To: <200905091915.14360.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <1280850847.6611231241906688674.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <200905091850.52901.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200905091915.14360.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Clay Weber wrote: > On Saturday 09 May 2009 6:50:52 pm Clay Weber wrote: >> On Saturday 09 May 2009 6:04:48 pm pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: >> > How can I inactivate IPV6 in 9.04? The instructions on the wiki are for >> > 8.04 and earlier and refer to files whose names have obviously changed. >> > Paul >> >> A google search on "jaunty ipv6" >> brought me this: >> http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/04/howto-disable-ipv6-at-ubuntu-jaunty.htm >>l >> >> ipv6 is built into the kernel now, so either of the 2 methods described are >> required. I didn't notice any speedup here, but I do use OpenDNS which >> speeds address lookups a lot. >> > > But it doesn't stick after a reboot :( > Unless it is your router that doesn't support ipv6, I suggest trying out > opendns.com if you are experiencing slow page lookups > It should be possible to add "net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1" to your /etc/sysctl.conf so it will be enabled at boot. I have _not_ tested it and I'm running Intrepid. / Jonas From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun May 10 12:14:20 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 08:14:20 -0400 Subject: Specific word locater. In-Reply-To: References: <200905091202.26578.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905100814.20276.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Saturday 09 May 2009 01:44:30 pm Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi steven, > > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 18:02, Steven Vollom > wrote: ... > > > Every time I use the find or locate option in Dolphin, it is only > > occasional that I am able to find what I am looking for. > > > > For instance: If I type a name of a movie into find, I would expect to > > find an address for that movie every place it existed in my computer, if > > in fact it were in my computer, but that is not the case with Dolphin, as > > far as I have experienced. > > You must have an index of your data before being able to find anything: > > go to system settings - Advanced Tag -> Desktop search > > activate Nepomuk and let it run. This might take some time, depending > on the amount of data you actually have on your computer. > There is a "Advanced settings" tab where you can choose the locations > you want to include into the indexing. > Don't include any system folders, that would make the search useless, > as the locate database underlying every Linux system already contains > those files, so no need to add those again for another index. > > Once the indexing completed, which you can see if you check the memory > load of nepomukestorage with top, activate the strigi search feature, > then restart KDE. > > IIRC, there are some issues with Strigi, but can't lay a hand on the > relevant bug right now. > > > Regards, Myriam. > > -- > Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: > http://www.fsfe.org > Please don't send me proprietary file formats, > use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) Dear Myriam, Thank you for the help. I checked the box for Enable Nepomuk Desktop. My computer made a lot of work sounds, so I believe I indexed my /home/steven directory. I did not include any system folders. I opened 'top' but I could not see anything about nepomukestorage. Additionally, when I checked Enable Strigi Desktop File Indexer, it said Strigi service not running. I rebooted to see if that would enable Strigi, but when open again, the enable box was unchecked. I have checked it again, but don't know what to do to get it enabled. The only thing I am aware that is running right now except for whatever runs in the background is Kontact with Kmail active and the window for Desktop Search - System Settings>Nepomuk/Strigi Server Configuration>Basic Settings tab w/both Nepomuk and Strigi checked. In the Advanced Settings tab, my directory has Desktop, Downloads, Documents and e-Sword checked. CompletedDownloads would be the better directory to be checked, but it is not an option shown. When I click on the plus sign, none of the items open to expose any content. Is that normal? The reason I think CompletedDownloads should be checked is because, when downloads are completed, they are transferred immediately to a CompletedDownload folder. So when I am not downloading anything, the Download folder does not contain anything. It is currently empty. I could send a screen print of my 'top' entries, but the only things using memory now are krfb, Xorg, plasma, kontact, konsole, knemo,and krunner. In total they use less than 4% memory and less than 7% cpu. There are 43 items listed, most have 0.0 entries. Just to see if a search would produce anything I typed in the title of my favorite movie "Bagdad Cafe"; it did not produce any results. By the way, if Nepomuk indexed my boot drive, none of my data is in there. /media/disk and /media/disk-1 contain all my files. If that makes a difference, how do I get them included in the indexing? Steven From chosunsk at hotmail.com Sun May 10 12:32:50 2009 From: chosunsk at hotmail.com (Mark Smith) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 08:32:50 -0400 Subject: KDE 4.2.3 for Intrepid (ATI sufferers unite) Message-ID: Hey everyone, Will the recent KDE 4.2.x point release be compiled for Intrepid Ibex users? Speaking for myself, I am unable to upgrade to Jaunty due to the fact that the latest ATI drivers (9.4:8.602) seem not to work with my laptop chip when testing it out on Intrepid, even though their release notes says it is supported. Back to running 9.3 on Intrepid without a hitch. Unfortunately, opensource drivers do not offer the performance (yet) I need for my work. I am sure there are other ATI users in the same situation. 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In-Reply-To: References: <200905091202.26578.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905100846.35356.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > There is a "Advanced settings" tab where you can choose the locations > you want to include into the indexing. > Don't include any system folders, that would make the search useless, > as the locate database underlying every Linux system already contains > those files, so no need to add those again for another index. > > Once the indexing completed, which you can see if you check the memory > load of nepomukestorage with top, activate the strigi search feature, > then restart KDE. (trimmed) I got a notification that I should install Extra Semantic Desktop Functionality, but I cannot find it anywhere. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun May 10 12:58:49 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 08:58:49 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0905091619l6dc6633ydfe511b7a5d2a049@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905081904.31537.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <9c2aabaf0905091619l6dc6633ydfe511b7a5d2a049@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905100858.49336.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Saturday 09 May 2009 07:19:39 pm Michael Hirsch wrote: > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Steven Vollom > > wrote: > > Earlier, perhaps a month or more, I couldn't get stored info into my > > appropriate partition. I wanted to keep the data from entering the boot > > partition, because of the small size of the boot partition, 20gb. I > > pasted my /home/ steven folder that contained what I wanted in the > > storage partition into /media/disk-1, a large partition outside the > > Operating System partition. Afterward the stored items were in a > > partition large enough to hold them. Nonetheless, when I open Dolphin, it > > contains /home/steven on the boot partition. Anytime I download a movie, > > it would save to the > > /CompletedDownloaded folder on the /boot drive, which would fill the > > partition up quite fast. So, I cut the /home/steven, and pasted it into > > the /media/disk-1/partition. Now all that data is saved to a partition > > large enough to hold it. Then I put a Quick Access widget on the panel > > with the address to the /media/disk-1/steven so that I could easily > > obtain access to all the data in that partition. > > Steven, > > Here are 3 potential solutions for you. > > 1. As other have suggetsed, you can shange the location where various > apps store their downloads. The downside to this is that you must > configure each application separately. > > 2. I would recommend that you move your entire /home directory to > another partition. mount your (empty) partition at say /media/mnt and > copy all of home there "sudo cp -a /home/* /media/mnt". Now edit your > /etc/fstab. Add a line to mount your formerly empty partition at > /home. Reboot. > > When you reboot your /home will be the new partition. since it is > done by a mount, it is transparent to any applications. All home > files will be kept on the partition. > > 3. Use symlinks. I do this for my media files. I mount the other > partition on /Media and I create directories on another partition with > lots of space named, say, "Videos" or "Music". Then I create symbolic > links to them "ln -s /Media/Music $HOME". Then I make sure that such > files are put in "~/Music". This has some similarities to solution 1. > > For simplicity, you can't beat solution 1. It has a second benefit of > keeping your home directories separate from your OS files, so if you > even need to reinstall the OS, or put in an alternate OS, you can do > so without worrying about your home files. > > Michael I am very confused. I may have even done that, I don't know. Is there a command that would reveal what I have that I could send to you to look at and evaluate? And, are you willing? From another adviser of the List, I have been told to change my partitions from currently primary boot partition, Extended partition containing 2 storage partitions plus the swap partition to four primary partitions. I am not sure how to do that without losing data. Because I was having trouble getting permission to use my storage partitions, I copied the /steven directory of /home/steven to /media/disk-1/ , which is one of the storage partitions. It contains all of the folders and files of my /home folder. That allowed me to store all data in a partition that did not contain the OS or any other applications. But I have been having troubles. And although I like very much to have all data stored separate from the packages that run in my system, it hasn't worked perfectly. Additionally I am getting so much varied advice to this problem, I am getting confused about what to do. That does not mean I am ungrateful, just confused. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun May 10 13:05:56 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 09:05:56 -0400 Subject: Specific word locater. In-Reply-To: References: <200905091202.26578.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905100905.56941.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> (Trimmed) > Why not exclude the home directory also then as updatedb is index them to? > See /etc/updatedb.conf for the path and file systems that updatedb is > excluding. Almost all of my data is in a Logical partition with the identity: /media/disk-1/steven. It is separate from the OS and all applications. When I attempted to index with nepomuk, it did not even show as a choice to index. Also, I am current in Jaunty and Strigi is suspended. (Trimmed) Steven From kassube at gmx.net Sun May 10 18:19:30 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:19:30 +0200 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905100858.49336.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <9c2aabaf0905091619l6dc6633ydfe511b7a5d2a049@mail.gmail.com> <200905100858.49336.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905102019.30211.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > From another adviser of the List, I have been told to change my > partitions from currently primary boot partition, Extended partition > containing 2 storage partitions plus the swap partition to four > primary partitions. I am not sure how to do that without losing > data. Just don't do it, you don't gain anything but you may lose your data. Seriously, I can't understand why people think that primary partitions might be better than extended / logical partitions. Do they think they are smarter than the Ubuntu developers who choose to setup an extended partion during the installation? Nils From aksheyjawa at gmail.com Sun May 10 19:16:13 2009 From: aksheyjawa at gmail.com (Akshey Jawa) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 00:46:13 +0530 Subject: kubuntu jaunty hangs frequently Message-ID: Hello, I have a HP dv2500 laptop. Earlier I had kubuntu 8.10 on it and it used to work fine. Recently I installed(fresh install, not an upgrade) Kubuntu 9.04 and since then it hangs frequently(few minutes to few hours after booting). I use- * CPU- Intel Core 2 Duo T2750 @ 2Ghz Display- Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller* *Usually the system hangs/freezes when I click on something. I can still move the mouse but the clicks are totally unresponsive. When I press the power off button on the laptop, it does not respond sometimes and at other times it does shutdown after going to a screen with lot of dotted lines(it does not show console messages of shutting down). * Initially I thought it to be a hardware problem and so got my laptop serviced(and cleaned) to bring the CPU temperature down. Now temperature is fine but the system still hangs. *Recently I installed same kubuntu(9.04) on another system and that system also started giving same problem of hanging frequently.* Then I installed kubuntu 8.10 in that machine and it is running fine. So I infer that it should not be a problem with hardware. Please note that I had written my kubuntu 9.04 CD(32bit) using the iso which I downloaded from internet. I had also checked its MD5 checksum after downloading. I also installed the 64bit version on my laptop and it also gave the same problem. How can I figure out why the laptop is hanging? I checked the system logs but could not find any clue. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Akshey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun May 10 19:18:09 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 15:18:09 -0400 Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <1241922967.27388.70.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <156730.14751.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1241922967.27388.70.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200905101518.09824.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Saturday 09 May 2009 10:36:07 pm Ric Moore wrote: > On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 07:29 -0700, Eric Marquez wrote: > > marc said: > > >9.04 is definitely running a lot hotter here. I have also noticed > > > > that > > > > >kwin sometimes "runs away"; sits at 50%+ cpu, which causes things to > > > > run > > > > >very hot. I've no idea what is setting this off, but now that I'm > > > > aware > > > > >of it, I've started watching. > > > > > >I'd try running without compositing: System Settings/Desktop/Enable > > >desktop effects -> unchecked. > > > > > >Xref this bug, I'm pretty sure that there are a few xorg + video > > > > driver > > > > >bugs lurking - there are large regressions in 9.04: > > > > Ric Moore said: > > > What nvidia drivers do you have installed?? If I were you, I'd > > > > install > > > > >the envyNG package and let it install your nVidia for you. Drivers > > > > like > > > > >NV just don't cut it if you want/need the real deal with everything > > >cooking. I run Java 3D Wonderland and it'll bark, howl and die with > > >anything else than the driver from nVidia. Not trying to be > > > > politically > > > > >incorrect here, but either it works or it don't. Give that a whirl. > > >Sounds like you have nothing to loose. Ric > > > > marc, ric: my computer freezes even without video drivers installed. > > The day I formatted the system and installed kubuntu, it was > > freezed before installing anything. I have the 180.51 nvidia driver > > right now. And it happens with/out the desktop effects. And the > > problem is not exclusive of Jaunty. This is been happening since I > > upgraded from kde3 to kde4 (with 8.04). > > Personally, I suspect it doesn't have to do with drivers (at least > > not with the ones I've installed)... but with some hardware > > problem/incompatibility... I'd like to know if there is some way to > > diagnose this. > > Ric, I'll try your envyNG suggestion anyway... > > Any other suggestion? > > Wow, it sounds darn near like a power supply problem. When I first > bought my then Big Tower and did a fresh install to it, which was flaky > from beginning to end. It worked for several hours then the desktop > would disappear, or random segfaults and just crazy things happening. No > two crashes were alike, and it wasn't until the second/third day someone > told me "power supply". So, I went back to the dealer, he replaced it > and several years later, if something strange happens, it's the idiot > between the chair and the keyboard fault. The system itself has been > very consistent since. I dunno, trouble shooting with a shotgun. Hey > Gene, what do you think?? :) Ric > > > -- > > My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: > "There are two Great Sins in the world... > ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. > Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. > Linux user# 44256 > https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ > Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 If you have an nVidia chip on your motherboard or an nVidia Gforce video card, especially if it is a high end chip on the board, you may have to add pci=nomsi to your boot instructions. It fixed my problem. My board chip is an nVidia 780a and my video card is 9600 G force nVidia. I don't like to give any advice, due to my inexperience, however, it cured my problem, and it is hard not to at least try to help, after all you have done for me. Steven Steven Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun May 10 20:28:45 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 16:28:45 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <1241921702.27388.61.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905091322.56993.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <1241921702.27388.61.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200905101628.45235.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Saturday 09 May 2009 10:15:02 pm Ric Moore wrote: > On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 13:22 -0400, Steven Vollom wrote: > > Thanks for the help; if you see any holes in my understanding, > > please reply with a warning, so I avoid losing data. > > I'd sure be doing SOMETHING different, like leaving the /media folder > alone. There's all sorts of places to put stuff rather that a directory > where devices auto-mount. It is not an entertainment file/content > directory, as you keep thinking and as I have repeatably kept telling > you it's not. How do I get out of this problem without losing my data? By the way, I was told to set up my storage partitions this way about a year ago from the list. > > The -computer- and Linux OS uses that directory, it was not meant for > man to use it. While you can do anything you please, put stuff in places > where no one has gone before, why dink with it as you're not at a > proficiency level to do so?? I have a vague memory of the prior warning, but I don't remember any instruction that I could understand to fix the problem. I frankly don't care what the names of the directories are for anything just that they work and don't create problems, and that I can find them. What should I do, rename the directory on the storage partition, I will do that if it would help straighten things out? Additionally, recently, I got instruction from Dotan Cohen to change to primary partitions for all my partitions. I would like to do that too, but I want to do these things in a way that I don't lose everything in the process. I just bought a new 1 TB SATA drive; it is on it's way. With that I can at least protect all my data prior to correcting these problems, (unless it is urgent). I am starting to understand both of you, I think, but I haven't been making my decisions without help from the list. I have to rely on what you guys tell me; I, like you said and think, I am over my head most of the time. If I get bad instructions, I don't know enough to recognize it. I trust you all implicitly, and take the advice you give without hesitation. So that you understand my primary objective, it is as follows. I want a boot drive with sufficient space to put my OS and all applications in. I want my saved data, of whatever kind in storage partitions that are not part of a drive that contains working packages. I want to be able to locate my data without a doctorate degree in computing. But most of all, I want to get an appropriately configured computer so that I don't have to bother you guys so much. I have a well endowed computer now and soon will have enough storage to be able to follow my current instructions from both you and Dotan and others who are continually trying to help me, because I will have room to save everything and start completely over if need be. I haven't learned out how yet, but I would like to create some virtual machines to try other OS's too without screwing things up more. In a few days, I will have 1.7TB of storage. I currently have about 450gb of data to protect, including the OS and applications. 200gb is PATA, 1.5gb is SATA. Contrary to popular belief, I am not playing or trying to create new things. I have enough trouble understanding your terminology when things are explained to me. Here is the equipment I am working with and what I want to do with it. The only changes I plan to make is adding an additional video card, the same as the one I installed on the board and perhaps an additional DVD ROM. My processor is an AMD Quad, 2300mhz per processor. I have 8gb of AXIOM ECC memory. This time next week, I will have an additional 1 TB SATA drive installed. To be able to take the advice I am currently given, it was a necessary purchase. I currently have a 500gb SATA drive installed. My video card is an nVidia 9600Gforce with 512mb DDR3. My Motherboard is an ASUS M3N- HT Mempipe. My power supply is a BFG 800W. There is also an 8400 nVidia Gforce video On-board and 8.1 on-board sound. My DVD Writer is SATA. Almost everything I want to protect in the way of data is Art or Art related. My OS is current Jaunty 64bit up-to-date, excepting KDE 4.2.3; I am still with KDE 4.2.2. Now you know what I have to work with and what I want to do? How would you fit the pieces together. What size Boot partition would you create? What size swap would you make? What kind of partitions would you use; would they all be primaries like Dotan suggested? What would you name the mount points of the partitions? How much space would you allocate to backup? How would you set up the configuration, so all saved data automatically went to the appropriate storage partition, not on the OS and application partition. I would like to use a 200gb Pata drive that I have for the virtual machines, if that makes sense. I would like to change the memory structure so that it is ganged and not divided equally between the processors. Can what I want be done without creating a comparable set of problems to the ones I now have to work through? > supposed to do. Or, dink with the locate utility to make it bend to your > will, so you can keep on doing what you want to do. Locate evidently > doesn't waste it's time scouting around /media nor it's sub > directories, ...so please don't waste ours. Believe me, I hate wasting your time. I have no one to tell me how to navigate through Linux yet. I don't find the mistakes I make until long after I have made them. Until this list, I had to struggle without any help; I did not even know how to use Google and Wiki in a way to get me where I wanted to be. Nonetheless I have learned a lot, while unintentionally frustrating the crap out of many of you. And I am sorry for that. > Use /opt ...It's whole > purpose is to safely do strange things there. I don't have the foggiest idea of what you mean when you say 'use/opt'. I don't understand the 'strange things' you speak of nor where 'there' is. This is not a joke and I am not trying to be curt. I do not know what you just said. I am not angry, just frustrated. You would not believe the difference in how a logical mind, like yours, and an artist's mind, like mine, perceived the exact same data. Much of the time, your instructions are no easier for me to understand that translating Chinese using a dictionary. Six months ago, I could not have understood your frustration or even hoped to answer it. And I believe you now know what I want to do, but still probably think I have some alternate agenda for the questions I ask. And lastly, when I don't take your advice, I just plain do not understand it. Sometimes it gets a little difficult to re-appear as stupid as I must appear to you, and I just stop for a while, until my brain-fart goes away. I would just love to set up two canvasses, side by side, with a goal in mind, so that I could watch you struggle in my arena. Your questions would appear just as illogical as mine do now. I would explain how to make things happen, and you would become confused. But if I took your brush and showed you, you would get it. Just like if you were sitting here noticing my blunders as they happened, you would teach me through it. I would give anything to know what you know. Especially if I had memories of how I think right now. Then I would be able to help people with my deficiencies and not get angry or frustrated. In fact, GOD willing I will do that some day. Most cordially, my friend; thanks for your ongoing patience. Steven From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun May 10 20:59:49 2009 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 16:59:49 -0400 Subject: Reporting Bugs on Kubuntu Message-ID: <200905101659.49777.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> How?? I was just at bugs.launchpad.net and could see no way of specifying a bug against Kubuntu/KDE4. Would like to report a keyboard config problem. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun May 10 21:17:24 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 17:17:24 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0905091619l6dc6633ydfe511b7a5d2a049@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905081904.31537.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <9c2aabaf0905091619l6dc6633ydfe511b7a5d2a049@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905101717.25048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> This email reads like I have already read and answered it, however, you took the time to help, so I will respectfully reply. Ignore it if you have already gotten an answer. (Trimmed) > > Here are 3 potential solutions for you. > > 1. As other have suggested, you can change the location where various > apps store their downloads. The downside to this is that you must > configure each application separately. I really do not mind the extra work, if it will obtain my objective. If there is a better way, I am open to advice. I just don't want to have data commingling with the Operating systems or applications. That way, I hope to never lose important data again. If the configuration changes that are required do not slow down the operation of my computer, I prefer my way. I lost my entire photographic records for 55 years while making a mistake using advice from the list. It was not their fault, because it should have been protected better, but I did not have the storage and had just compiled it shortly before the loss. When I made the mistake, I thought I still had carefully protected the data. And maybe I did not lose them; they may be lost in my computer some place. When I learn how to find things better, I hope to retrieve them. > > 2. I would recommend that you move your entire /home directory to > another partition. mount your (empty) partition at say /media/mnt and > copy all of home there "sudo cp -a /home/* /media/mnt". Now edit your > /etc/fstab. Add a line to mount your formerly empty partition at > /home. Reboot. Would /media/mnt be a part of my boot partition, where the OS and applications are kept? Would my /home directory then be on a partition different from the one the operating system and applications are on? I have never edited /etc/fstab before. Do I use an application like Kate to do so? What words do I use to mount the partition? By '/home' files, do you mean all my data? If an application or the OS crash in a way that cannot be repaired, will it affect this new /home directory? > > When you reboot your /home will be the new partition. since it is > done by a mount, it is transparent to any applications. All home > files will be kept on the partition. This may have answered my previous question, but I am concerned with files that are necessary to have applications work too. Do all application dependencies remain on the same partition that the applications are on? > > 3. Use symlinks. Is symlinks an application or a term? > I do this for my media files. I mount the other > partition on /Media and I create directories on another partition with > lots of space named, say, "Videos" or "Music". Dotan suggested I do not use an Extended partition, however, if I made partitions for my various art records, Oil Paintings, Pastels, Pottery, Ceramic Sculpture, Wood Sculpture, Stone Sculpture, Copper Enamels, Pen Drawings, Charcoals, Photographs, Videos, and Music, it would exceed the limit of primary partitions. Perhaps I could create a partition named Art and put sub-directories or folders inside identifying the various work. Could it still be a primary partition? The fourth partition could then contain my personal records, computer related records, and other things unrelated to my work-life. > Then I create symbolic > links I do not understand symbolic links. Are they used to direct placement of data by the OS and other applications? > to them "ln -s /Media/Music $HOME". Then I make sure that such > files are put in "~/Music". This has some similarities to solution 1. > > For simplicity, you can't beat solution 1. It has a second benefit of > keeping your home directories separate from your OS files, This is the primary reason I got into trouble. I wanted this very thing to happen and lost important data trying to get to that point. I have large blocks of saved information that I hope contains the photographic records of my life and work that may be recoverable. I have no idea where it is, nor how to find it, and I only hope that it wasn't permanently lost. I also may be able to find lost emails, thousands, I suspect. > so if you > even need to reinstall the OS, or put in an alternate OS, you can do > so without worrying about your home files. Thank you Michael, you understand my problem and I believe option 1 is best for me. I also believe I understand most everything you have said. I have a one TB hard drive on its way. It will have sufficient space to back- up everything I currently have. It should be here in a couple of days. I will make this plan happen then. I am not sure if setting the configuration for my computer is relevant to Kubuntu Help and User Discussions; it may be, though, because it will be a map of understanding for people like me with similar problems while using Kubuntu. When I get to that point, if I post and am chastised for being off topic, may I contact you directly, if I run into a snag? Either way, thanks much, friend. Steven > > Michael From claydoh at midmaine.com Sun May 10 21:45:08 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 17:45:08 -0400 Subject: Reporting Bugs on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200905101659.49777.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200905101659.49777.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <200905101745.08777.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Sunday 10 May 2009 4:59:49 pm Bruce Marshall wrote: > How?? > > I was just at bugs.launchpad.net and could see no way of specifying a bug > against Kubuntu/KDE4. > > Would like to report a keyboard config problem. I would use xserver-xorg-input-keyboard as the package to file a bug against. There really isn't a desktop-specific choice in Launchpad, which does make it confusing as to what you need to choose. Choosing Ubuntu or Linux is also a choice. If /when bug triagers come across your report, they can re-assign it to the correct package if necessary, especially after asking for any extra info. Another thing to do to help Kubuntu triagers find Kubuntu-based bugs is to put "[Kubuntu]" in the bug report title. That way bug volunteers can search more easily. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From claydoh at midmaine.com Sun May 10 21:52:01 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 17:52:01 -0400 Subject: KDE 4.2.3 for Intrepid (ATI sufferers unite) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905101752.01363.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Sunday 10 May 2009 8:32:50 am Mark Smith wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Will the recent KDE 4.2.x point release be compiled for Intrepid Ibex > users? Speaking for myself, I am unable to upgrade to Jaunty due to the > fact that the latest ATI drivers (9.4:8.602) seem not to work with my > laptop chip when testing it out on Intrepid, even though their release > notes says it is supported. Back to running 9.3 on Intrepid without a > hitch. Unfortunately, opensource drivers do not offer the performance > (yet) I need for my work. I am sure there are other ATI users in the same > situation. > > Thank you. > There are no plans for any new KDE versions for Intrepid. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From claydoh at midmaine.com Sun May 10 22:21:19 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 18:21:19 -0400 Subject: kubuntu jaunty hangs frequently In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905101821.19448.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Sunday 10 May 2009 3:16:13 pm Akshey Jawa wrote: > Hello, > > I have a HP dv2500 laptop. Earlier I had kubuntu 8.10 on it and it used to > work fine. Recently I installed(fresh install, not an upgrade) Kubuntu 9.04 > and since then it hangs frequently(few minutes to few hours after booting). > I use- > * > CPU- Intel Core 2 Duo T2750 @ 2Ghz > Display- Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller* > > *Usually the system hangs/freezes when I click on something. I can still > move the mouse but the clicks are totally unresponsive. When I press the > power off button on the laptop, it does not respond sometimes and at other > times it does shutdown after going to a screen with lot of dotted lines(it > does not show console messages of shutting down). * > > Initially I thought it to be a hardware problem and so got my laptop > serviced(and cleaned) to bring the CPU temperature down. Now temperature is > fine but the system still hangs. *Recently I installed same kubuntu(9.04) > on another system and that system also started giving same problem of > hanging frequently.* Then I installed kubuntu 8.10 in that machine and it > is running fine. So I infer that it should not be a problem with hardware. > Please note that I had written my kubuntu 9.04 CD(32bit) using the iso > which I downloaded from internet. I had also checked its MD5 checksum after > downloading. I also installed the 64bit version on my laptop and it also > gave the same problem. > > How can I figure out why the laptop is hanging? I checked the system logs > but could not find any clue. Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Akshey Its a common bug in the intel video drivers/xorg which are new in Jaunty. I would first disable any desktop effects I can find two different workarounds for this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4 or http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/03/how-to-enable-uxa-at-ubuntu-jaunty.html I don't have anything using intel video, though I am sure some in here do and can let us know what worked for them -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun May 10 22:28:35 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 18:28:35 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905102019.30211.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905100858.49336.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905102019.30211.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200905101828.35576.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Sunday 10 May 2009 02:19:30 pm Nils Kassube wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > > From another adviser of the List, I have been told to change my > > partitions from currently primary boot partition, Extended partition > > containing 2 storage partitions plus the swap partition to four > > primary partitions. I am not sure how to do that without losing > > data. > > Just don't do it, you don't gain anything but you may lose your data. > Seriously, I can't understand why people think that primary partitions > might be better than extended / logical partitions. Do they think they > are smarter than the Ubuntu developers who choose to setup an extended > partion during the installation? > > > Nils It gets very difficult some times, especially when two of the people I respect most on the list are of opposite belief. I like you both so much, that when I have to make the final decision, I won't be able to say, or the other will think I respect him more. A curiosity for my own understanding though. Is there a limit to how many logical partitions can be located within an Extended partition? I have sufficient media in my artwork to want to separate them by partitions rather than just folders. It isn't critical, but would have an impact on my decision. I have worked 11 media over the past 60 years. Cheers friend, Steven From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun May 10 22:36:41 2009 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:36:41 +1000 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905102019.30211.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905100858.49336.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905102019.30211.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200905110836.42234.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> On Mon, 11 May 2009 04:19:30 am Nils Kassube wrote: > ust don't do it, you don't gain anything but you may lose your data. > Seriously, I can't understand why people think that primary partitions > might be better than extended / logical partitions. Do they think they > are smarter than the Ubuntu developers who choose to setup an extended > partion during the installation? Agree *100%* Very high risk of losing everything. -- Lindsay http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I now have useful permanent memories that will help me to bother the list a bit less. I take this advice and will not do as you fear. Nonetheless I understand more and will correct all the prior problems soon. I purchased a HDD large enough to contain all my current data. It will arrive in a couple of days. When it gets here, I will create suitable partitions with proper addresses. Then I will configure to the consensus of all who have helped, to the best of my ability. Then I will make a final fresh install of Jaunty, configure it to automatically save to the appropriate storage partitions, and Back-up all important data to a Drive exclusive for Back-ups. I will create a 200gb HDD for virtual boxes to learn other Linux OS's and to conduct whatever experiments I wish without jeopardizing my data. All this, thanks to you all. Steven From g.lip at gmx.com Mon May 11 06:56:32 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:56:32 +0800 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905101909.43969.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905102019.30211.kassube@gmx.net> <200905110836.42234.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <200905101909.43969.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A07CC20.1000606@gmx.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > On Sunday 10 May 2009 06:36:41 pm Lindsay Mathieson wrote: >> On Mon, 11 May 2009 04:19:30 am Nils Kassube wrote: >>> ust don't do it, you don't gain anything but you may lose your data. >>> Seriously, I can't understand why people think that primary partitions >>> might be better than extended / logical partitions. Do they think they >>> are smarter than the Ubuntu developers who choose to setup an extended >>> partion during the installation? >> Agree *100%* Very high risk of losing everything. > Thanks. Actually I had a very enlightening day. I now have useful permanent > memories that will help me to bother the list a bit less. I take this advice > and will not do as you fear. Nonetheless I understand more and will correct > all the prior problems soon. > > I purchased a HDD large enough to contain all my current data. It will arrive > in a couple of days. > > When it gets here, I will create suitable partitions with proper addresses. > Then I will configure to the consensus of all who have helped, to the best of > my ability. Then I will make a final fresh install of Jaunty, configure it to > automatically save to the appropriate storage partitions, and Back-up all > important data to a Drive exclusive for Back-ups. > > I will create a 200gb HDD for virtual boxes to learn other Linux OS's and to > conduct whatever experiments I wish without jeopardizing my data. All this, > thanks to you all. > > Steven > Steven, First the facts.. There can be a maximum of 4 primary partitions. The boot(/boot) partition (if there is one), swap need NOT be on a primary partition. Older Windows, XP and older,maybe even the Vista (not sure), must be on the first partition. Certain OS's or boot programs can only read single digit partition numbers, like, sda9, not sda10. Some OS's like FreeBSD, or Mac, must be installed on a primary partition. (if you install in an extended logical partition, it will wipe out other logical partitions in the extended partition) There is no or negligible advantages in installing OS's in any partition, extended or primary. (unless you have old bios, LVM issues, old hard disks's, etc) Jaunty has no limitations on installing in primary or extended logicals, and allows you to set up /boot, /home, /almost_anything in a separate partition, primary or extended. Now.. my opinion, feel free to disagree. Since you run only Jaunty, you need only to worry about your data. When you reinstall, first back up your /home to a different disk. Sounds simple enough. Regards, Goh Lip Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. From kassube at gmx.net Mon May 11 07:55:32 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:55:32 +0200 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905101828.35576.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905102019.30211.kassube@gmx.net> <200905101828.35576.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905110955.32608.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > It gets very difficult some times, especially when two of the people > I respect most on the list are of opposite belief. I like you both > so much, that when I have to make the final decision, I won't be able > to say, or the other will think I respect him more. As always when there are conflicting opinions you will have to decide which side you prefer. I don't think you would hurt anyone's feelings with your decision, what ever it is. After all, it is your computer and you have to live with the result. > A curiosity for my own understanding though. Is there a limit to how > many logical partitions can be located within an Extended partition? Yes, for Linux there is a limit. According to [1] it is 15 for SCSI and 63 for IDE disks. The document seems to be a bit dated because there is no mention of SATA disks. > I have sufficient media in my artwork to want to separate them by > partitions rather than just folders. I would suggest you use folders even if it makes more sense for you to use partitions. If you use separate partitions for individual categories, you will have a lot of wasted space on one partition while another partition is filled up. I'll try to explain: Let's say you want to make two partitions for music and videos. The average size of your video files is 5 times as big as your music files. Therefore you decide to make a 10GB partition for music and a 50GB partition for videos. After a while you find out that you have no more space left on your music partition while there is plenty of space on your video partition. Now what can you do? You can resize both partitions with the risk of data loss (and it is very time consuming) or you can backup all those data and create new partitions with appropriate size and restore the data from the backup. However, what seems to be the appropriate size then may be wrong again and you will hit another size limit some time later. If you use folders instead, you can write data to the disk until you reach the size limit of the entire disk, not the limit of individual partitions. Nils [1] From mirtosilvio.busico at fastwebnet.it Mon May 11 08:55:10 2009 From: mirtosilvio.busico at fastwebnet.it (Mirto Silvio Busico) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:55:10 +0200 Subject: linux-generic-2.6.28.11.15 - update still blocked Message-ID: <4A07E7EE.7050709@fastwebnet.it> Hi all, after a week I still have 4 updates blocked. All are related to linux-generic-2.6.28.11.15 and the reason in the details is "The list of changes is not available" Is this normal? Here is what I see in the details panel of the updater: Tipo: Aggiormento bloccato Nuova versione: linux-generic-2.6.28.11.15 Aggiornamenti: linux-generic-2.6.28.11.15 Deposito: Modifiche: The list of changes is not available Thanks Mirto -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Eberhard From mirtosilvio.busico at fastwebnet.it Mon May 11 10:14:37 2009 From: mirtosilvio.busico at fastwebnet.it (Mirto Silvio Busico) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 12:14:37 +0200 Subject: linux-generic-2.6.28.11.15 - update still blocked In-Reply-To: References: <4A07E7EE.7050709@fastwebnet.it> Message-ID: <4A07FA8D.5060002@fastwebnet.it> Eberhard Roloff ha scritto: > Mirto Silvio Busico wrote: > >> Hi all, >> after a week I still have 4 updates blocked. >> All are related to linux-generic-2.6.28.11.15 and the reason in the >> details is "The list of changes is not available" >> >> > The same with me, until yesterday. > > Today I added the kde 4.2.3 ppa and then upgraded to install KDE 4.2.3. > Now anything is "clear", once again. > > Eberhard > > > Thanks Mirto -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The instructions on the wiki are for >>> > 8.04 and earlier and refer to files whose names have obviously changed. >>> > Paul >>> >>> A google search on "jaunty ipv6" >>> brought me this: >>> http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/04/howto-disable-ipv6-at-ubuntu-jaunty.htm >>>l >>> >>> ipv6 is built into the kernel now, so either of the 2 methods described are >>> required. I didn't notice any speedup here, but I do use OpenDNS which >>> speeds address lookups a lot. >>> >> >> But it doesn't stick after a reboot :( >> Unless it is your router that doesn't support ipv6, I suggest trying out >> opendns.com if you are experiencing slow page lookups >> > > It should be possible to add "net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1" to > your /etc/sysctl.conf so it will be enabled at boot. > I have _not_ tested it and I'm running Intrepid. This won't work on Jaunty (at least not on the version I tested), I've filled a bug about it, which is still open: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/351656 I can't say it doesn't work right now because I run a custom kernel, with IPv6 disabled :) Cheers From lamanary at gmail.com Mon May 11 12:00:28 2009 From: lamanary at gmail.com (Lamanary Ramos de Pina) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:00:28 -0100 Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200905101518.09824.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <156730.14751.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1241922967.27388.70.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <200905101518.09824.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <888426b40905110500j4db56e10v786d56d29999e07a@mail.gmail.com> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/337351 On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Steven Vollom wrote: > On Saturday 09 May 2009 10:36:07 pm Ric Moore wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 07:29 -0700, Eric Marquez wrote: > > > marc said: > > > >9.04 is definitely running a lot hotter here. I have also noticed > > > > > > that > > > > > > >kwin sometimes "runs away"; sits at 50%+ cpu, which causes things to > > > > > > run > > > > > > >very hot. I've no idea what is setting this off, but now that I'm > > > > > > aware > > > > > > >of it, I've started watching. > > > > > > > >I'd try running without compositing: System Settings/Desktop/Enable > > > >desktop effects -> unchecked. > > > > > > > >Xref this bug, I'm pretty sure that there are a few xorg + video > > > > > > driver > > > > > > >bugs lurking - there are large regressions in 9.04: > > > > > > Ric Moore said: > > > > What nvidia drivers do you have installed?? If I were you, I'd > > > > > > install > > > > > > >the envyNG package and let it install your nVidia for you. Drivers > > > > > > like > > > > > > >NV just don't cut it if you want/need the real deal with everything > > > >cooking. I run Java 3D Wonderland and it'll bark, howl and die with > > > >anything else than the driver from nVidia. Not trying to be > > > > > > politically > > > > > > >incorrect here, but either it works or it don't. Give that a whirl. > > > >Sounds like you have nothing to loose. Ric > > > > > > marc, ric: my computer freezes even without video drivers installed. > > > The day I formatted the system and installed kubuntu, it was > > > freezed before installing anything. I have the 180.51 nvidia driver > > > right now. And it happens with/out the desktop effects. And the > > > problem is not exclusive of Jaunty. This is been happening since I > > > upgraded from kde3 to kde4 (with 8.04). > > > Personally, I suspect it doesn't have to do with drivers (at least > > > not with the ones I've installed)... but with some hardware > > > problem/incompatibility... I'd like to know if there is some way to > > > diagnose this. > > > Ric, I'll try your envyNG suggestion anyway... > > > Any other suggestion? > > > > Wow, it sounds darn near like a power supply problem. When I first > > bought my then Big Tower and did a fresh install to it, which was flaky > > from beginning to end. It worked for several hours then the desktop > > would disappear, or random segfaults and just crazy things happening. No > > two crashes were alike, and it wasn't until the second/third day someone > > told me "power supply". So, I went back to the dealer, he replaced it > > and several years later, if something strange happens, it's the idiot > > between the chair and the keyboard fault. The system itself has been > > very consistent since. I dunno, trouble shooting with a shotgun. Hey > > Gene, what do you think?? :) Ric > > > > > > -- > > > > My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: > > "There are two Great Sins in the world... > > ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. > > Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. > > Linux user# 44256 > > https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ > > Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 > If you have an nVidia chip on your motherboard or an nVidia Gforce video > card, > especially if it is a high end chip on the board, you may have to add > pci=nomsi to your boot instructions. It fixed my problem. My board chip > is an > nVidia 780a and my video card is 9600 G force nVidia. I don't like to give > any advice, due to my inexperience, however, it cured my problem, and it is > hard not to at least try to help, after all you have done for me. > > Steven > > Steven > > Steven > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- blog | http://lamanary.wordpress.com fun | http://naryran.myminicity.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Single-user (recovery) mode always gives you access to a root shell. > > Once rebooted, I went to a terminal (ctrl+alt+F1), and logged in with root > via > > $ sudo su > > Then I created a mount point under mnt: > > $ mkdir /mnt/local > > ...and mounted the local hard drive there. > > $ mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/local That's a step more than there's a need for - just mount directly to /mnt > Only took me half an hour to figure it out. My Google fu is mighty. Indeed :-) -- derek From paulatgm at gmail.com Mon May 11 13:28:26 2009 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:28:26 -0400 Subject: update-notifier-kde hogging cpu Message-ID: <4A0827FA.7000709@gmail.com> Anyone else notice update-notifier-kde (0.19) is hogging a lot of cpu? top shows python using 1 full cpu here, and ps shows it's update-notifier-kde and printer-applet. killing update-notifier-kde drops python off top. From derek at pointerstop.ca Mon May 11 13:35:48 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:35:48 -0300 Subject: Root user not in sudoers group WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!? References: Message-ID: Richard S. Crawford wrote: > I fixed this issue using the bootable CD which I happened to have > lying around. Next time this happens I'll be using single user mode. > > > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Derek Broughton > wrote: >> >> To fix it, you'll have to reboot into single-user mode, and execute >> usermod directly from root - being sure to add deguser to the "admin" :-) Well, I should have said "single-user ... or a LiveCD" - whatever works. The single-user mode is simplest for something like that, but many times it's more useful to be able to get into a GUI environment. There's more than one way to skin any cat in Linux (which is a little hard on the cats, but I digress). -- derek From derek at pointerstop.ca Mon May 11 13:42:50 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:42:50 -0300 Subject: How to turn off IPV6 References: <1280850847.6611231241906688674.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <200905091850.52901.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200905091915.14360.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4c6e034d0905110413o1c9207d1v7253635c4021ff46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Antonio Augusto (Mancha) wrote: > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 03:48, Jonas Norlander > wrote: >> It should be possible to add "net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1" to >> your /etc/sysctl.conf so it will be enabled at boot. >> I have _not_ tested it and I'm running Intrepid. > > This won't work on Jaunty (at least not on the version I tested), I've > filled a bug about it, which is still open: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/351656 > Unless that's not the correct key, it should work - I certainly have sysctl.conf settings working at every boot. -- derek From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Mon May 11 14:41:26 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:41:26 -0300 Subject: How to turn off IPV6 In-Reply-To: References: <1280850847.6611231241906688674.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <200905091850.52901.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200905091915.14360.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4c6e034d0905110413o1c9207d1v7253635c4021ff46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905110741u44df7587i6569903205fae59a@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:42, Derek Broughton wrote: > Antonio Augusto (Mancha) wrote: > >> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 03:48, Jonas Norlander >> wrote: > >>> It should be possible to add "net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1" to >>> your /etc/sysctl.conf so it will be enabled at boot. >>> I have _not_ tested it and I'm running Intrepid. >> >> This won't work on Jaunty (at least not on the version I tested), I've >> filled a bug about it, which is still open: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/351656 >> > Unless that's not the correct key, it should work - I certainly have > sysctl.conf settings working at every boot. Derek, Just tested it on a stock kernel (2.6.28-11#42) and I cannot disable Ipv6 at all. Nor running sysctl, nor putting it on /etc/sysctl.conf, not echoing 1 to /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6. Can you confirm this is working for you? If you run "ifconfig | grep inet6" you get nothing? Which kernel are you running? Can you try removing the sysctl line from your machine and see if this brings ipv6 back to you? (to make sure its not being disabled by other things). Cheers. From derek at pointerstop.ca Mon May 11 15:32:01 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 12:32:01 -0300 Subject: How to turn off IPV6 References: <1280850847.6611231241906688674.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <200905091850.52901.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200905091915.14360.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4c6e034d0905110413o1c9207d1v7253635c4021ff46@mail.gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905110741u44df7587i6569903205fae59a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Antonio Augusto (Mancha) wrote: > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:42, Derek Broughton > wrote: >> Antonio Augusto (Mancha) wrote: >>> >>> This won't work on Jaunty (at least not on the version I tested), I've >>> filled a bug about it, which is still open: >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/351656 >>> >> Unless that's not the correct key, it should work - I certainly have >> sysctl.conf settings working at every boot. > > Just tested it on a stock kernel (2.6.28-11#42) and I cannot disable > Ipv6 at all. Nor running sysctl, nor putting it on /etc/sysctl.conf, > not echoing 1 to /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6. Indeed - I just happened to be trying out IPv6 in a VM and knew it _was_working. Setting /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6 (which did contain 0) to 1 had no effect, and I could still use ipv6 to connect to it. So either that key doesn't do what we think it does - in which case there's a usability bug - or it doesn't do what it's supposed to do. :-( -- derek From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Mon May 11 17:00:54 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:00:54 -0300 Subject: How to turn off IPV6 In-Reply-To: References: <1280850847.6611231241906688674.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <200905091850.52901.claydoh@midmaine.com> <200905091915.14360.claydoh@midmaine.com> <4c6e034d0905110413o1c9207d1v7253635c4021ff46@mail.gmail.com> <4c6e034d0905110741u44df7587i6569903205fae59a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905111000x551b40cu748af8c7710b146c@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:32, Derek Broughton wrote: > Antonio Augusto (Mancha) wrote: > >> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:42, Derek Broughton >> wrote: >>> Antonio Augusto (Mancha) wrote: >>>> >>>> This won't work on Jaunty (at least not on the version I tested), I've >>>> filled a bug about it, which is still open: >>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/351656 >>>> >>> Unless that's not the correct key, it should work - I certainly have >>> sysctl.conf settings working at every boot. >> >> Just tested it on a stock kernel (2.6.28-11#42) and I cannot disable >> Ipv6 at all. Nor running sysctl, nor putting it on /etc/sysctl.conf, >> not echoing 1 to /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6. > > Indeed - I just happened to be trying out IPv6 in a VM and knew it > _was_working.  Setting /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6 (which did > contain 0) to 1 had no effect, and I could still use ipv6 to connect to it. > > So either that key doesn't do what we think it does - in which case there's > a usability bug - or it doesn't do what it's supposed to do. :-( As per de bug I've posted early, this is a bug on the kernel. A fix is already available somewhere in the kernel tree (I think somewhere on the 2.6.29 tree, bug don't know for sure). The best way of action would be to backport that fix (a very simple one, for what I've seen), as I've requested on that same bug. Hope someone get to do this sooner than latter. Cheers From aksheyjawa at gmail.com Mon May 11 17:38:16 2009 From: aksheyjawa at gmail.com (Akshey Jawa) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:08:16 +0530 Subject: how to install older ver of Amarok? Message-ID: Hi, I recently installed Kubuntu 9.04 and got Amarok 2 with it, but I did not like its look and feel. So now I want to install older version of amarok(1.4). How can I do that? I tried to find the deb package for that but could not find. And also, the older version is not in the default repositories. Thanks, Akshey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rscrawford at mossroot.com Mon May 11 17:43:23 2009 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:43:23 -0700 Subject: how to install older ver of Amarok? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Akshey Jawa wrote: > I recently installed Kubuntu 9.04 and got Amarok 2 with it, but I did not > like its look and feel. So now I want to install older version of > amarok(1.4). How can I do that? I tried to find the deb package for that but > could not find. And also, the older version is not in the default > repositories. Howdy, Akshey. I found instructions for "upgrading" from Amarok2 to Amarok 1.4 here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa I wound up installing Amarok 1.4 from the command line, since Adept didn't see it even after I updated my sources: $ sudo apt-get install amarok14 Make sure you uninstall Amarok2 completely before you do this. -- Richard S. Crawford (rscrawford at mossroot.com) http://www.mossroot.com Publisher and Editor in Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) From eamner at yahoo.com Mon May 11 17:58:46 2009 From: eamner at yahoo.com (Eric Marquez) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <511866.44965.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> @Steven: Thanks for your answer. And thanks for the tip, I'll try it. Where exactly should I place that line (pci=nomsi )? do you mean in the Grub menu? @Ric:  Thanks for your answer... your approach is interesting but, if the problem should be Power Supply, why doesn't it happen in Windows (remember I have a dual boot), and why didn't it happen when I had kde3? @Lamanary Ramos de Pina:  Lamanary: thanks for the link. It's very interesting and it's the first time I see this problem categorized as Bug. All the descriptions of the problem are not exactly as mine, so I'm not sure that's exactly my case, but anyway I'll subscribe to that bug and try to participate. I'll do anything to solve this problem.  Greetings,  Eric. Message: 8 Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 15:18:09 -0400 From: Steven Vollom Subject: Re: Random freezes in Kubuntu To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Message-ID: <200905101518.09824.stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="iso-8859-1" On Saturday 09 May 2009 10:36:07 pm Ric Moore wrote: > On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 07:29 -0700, Eric Marquez wrote: > > marc said: > > >9.04 is definitely running a lot hotter here. I have also noticed > > > > that > > > > >kwin sometimes "runs away"; sits at 50%+ cpu, which causes things to > > > > run > > > > >very hot. I've no idea what is setting this off, but now that I'm > > > > aware > > > > >of it, I've started watching. > > > > > >I'd try running without compositing: System Settings/Desktop/Enable > > >desktop effects -> unchecked. > > > > > >Xref this bug, I'm pretty sure that there are a few xorg + video > > > > driver > > > > >bugs lurking - there are large regressions in 9.04: > > > > Ric Moore said: > > > What nvidia drivers do you have installed?? If I were you, I'd > > > > install > > > > >the envyNG package and let it install your nVidia for you. Drivers > > > > like > > > > >NV just don't cut it if you want/need the real deal with everything > > >cooking. I run Java 3D Wonderland and it'll bark, howl and die with > > >anything else than the driver from nVidia. Not trying to be > > > > politically > > > > >incorrect here, but either it works or it don't. Give that a whirl. > > >Sounds like you have nothing to loose. Ric > > > > marc, ric: my computer freezes even without video drivers installed. > > The day I formatted the system and installed kubuntu, it was > > freezed before installing anything. I have the 180.51 nvidia driver > > right now. And it happens with/out the desktop effects. And the > > problem is not exclusive of Jaunty. This is been happening since I > > upgraded from kde3 to kde4 (with 8.04). > >  Personally, I suspect it doesn't have to do with drivers (at least > > not with the ones I've installed)... but with some hardware > > problem/incompatibility... I'd like to know if there is some way to > > diagnose this. > >  Ric, I'll try your envyNG suggestion anyway... > >  Any other suggestion? > > Wow, it sounds darn near like a power supply problem. When I first > bought my then Big Tower and did a fresh install to it, which was flaky > from beginning to end. It worked for several hours then the desktop > would disappear, or random segfaults and just crazy things happening. No > two crashes were alike, and it wasn't until the second/third day someone > told me "power supply". So, I went back to the dealer, he replaced it > and several years later, if something strange happens, it's the idiot > between the chair and the keyboard fault. The system itself has been > very consistent since. I dunno, trouble shooting with a shotgun. Hey > Gene, what do you think?? :) Ric > > > -- > > My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: > "There are two Great Sins in the world... > ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. > Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. > Linux user# 44256 > https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ > Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 If you have an nVidia chip on your motherboard or an nVidia Gforce video card, especially if it is a high end chip on the board, you may have to add pci=nomsi to your boot instructions.  It fixed my problem.  My board chip is an nVidia 780a and my video card is 9600 G force nVidia.  I don't like to give any advice, due to my inexperience, however, it cured my problem, and it is hard not to at least try to help, after all you have done for me. Steven ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=mx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue May 12 02:14:34 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 22:14:34 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905110955.32608.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905101828.35576.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905110955.32608.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200905112214.34092.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Monday 11 May 2009 03:55:32 am Nils Kassube wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > > It gets very difficult some times, especially when two of the people > > I respect most on the list are of opposite belief. I like you both > > so much, that when I have to make the final decision, I won't be able > > to say, or the other will think I respect him more. > > As always when there are conflicting opinions you will have to decide > which side you prefer. I don't think you would hurt anyone's feelings > with your decision, what ever it is. After all, it is your computer and > you have to live with the result. > > > A curiosity for my own understanding though. Is there a limit to how > > many logical partitions can be located within an Extended partition? > > Yes, for Linux there is a limit. According to [1] it is 15 for SCSI and > 63 for IDE disks. The document seems to be a bit dated because there is > no mention of SATA disks. > > > I have sufficient media in my artwork to want to separate them by > > partitions rather than just folders. > > I would suggest you use folders even if it makes more sense for you to > use partitions. If you use separate partitions for individual > categories, you will have a lot of wasted space on one partition while > another partition is filled up. I'll try to explain: Let's say you want > to make two partitions for music and videos. The average size of your > video files is 5 times as big as your music files. Therefore you decide > to make a 10GB partition for music and a 50GB partition for videos. > After a while you find out that you have no more space left on your > music partition while there is plenty of space on your video partition. > Now what can you do? You can resize both partitions with the risk of > data loss (and it is very time consuming) or you can backup all those > data and create new partitions with appropriate size and restore the > data from the backup. However, what seems to be the appropriate size > then may be wrong again and you will hit another size limit some time > later. > > If you use folders instead, you can write data to the disk until you > reach the size limit of the entire disk, not the limit of individual > partitions. > > > Nils > > [1] Thanks, my friend. I am so happy with the response that I am laughing. It was very kind to be so complete. It makes the decision so easy; folders it is. You are so great and so appreciated. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue May 12 03:21:40 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:21:40 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <4A07CC20.1000606@gmx.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905101909.43969.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A07CC20.1000606@gmx.com> Message-ID: <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > Jaunty has no limitations on installing in primary or extended logicals, > and allows you to set up /boot, /home, /almost_anything in a separate > partition, primary or extended. I believe I understand now. What I plan, at this moment, subject to change until the last moment, is to use the new 1TB SATA with a boot/OS partition, a swap partition and a /home partition. Once data is copied to the new drive, I will format/back-up, and exclusively use my 500gb SATA for Back-up. Then I will install a 200gb IDE 133 that I have and create virtual machines, to install and learn the use of other Linux OS's; I will also install in Virtual a separate Jaunty current for the experimentation I always seem to get myself into. The only part I am not completely confident in doing is to set up the OS and applications so that when data is saved it always automatically goes to the storage partitions. I don't want the boot partition to contain any important savable data that can be placed on drives that are not subject to application crashes and loss of data. I don't mind if doing this causes a little more work to set up the configuration, as long as it doesn't slow the machine, or open a new kettle of worms that I don't anticipate. If I understand correctly, this is a simple setup and perhaps the fastest too. As always, I am so grateful for the care and concern you have provided me. Perhaps I will finally have a system that will function, more or less, as it was intended by those who created the applications, as well as, cause a little less burden on the List. May I ask this? I have never actually lost data due to a broken HDD. Are there any built-in warning mechanisms within HDD's that let you know when they are about worn out? Do they fail, or break, without warning? How much of a concern should that be? In 20+ years, I have never had one break. I have always just replaced them with bigger drives. I can never be really sure, but I think this may be the last expansion I will ever need for data, so wearing out the drives or actual physical failure are what I am facing now. Even that may be a bit oxymoronic, I am 66 years old. Most cordially, Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue May 12 03:32:12 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:32:12 -0400 Subject: linux-generic-2.6.28.11.15 - update still blocked In-Reply-To: References: <4A07E7EE.7050709@fastwebnet.it> Message-ID: <200905112332.12218.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Monday 11 May 2009 05:10:48 am Eberhard Roloff wrote: > kde 4.2.3 ppa It has been a while, my friend. I hope all is well with you and yours. I went to the site where KDE 4.2.3 PPA is offered, but I did not see the distinction for 64 bit. Is that a concern for me? I operate 64bit now. I did see AMD 64bit, but it was for Intrepid. I don't recall getting any additional infor re: the laptop ram I have. No one has seemed to need it so far. It is just sitting her, so if you can use it, I will send it. 2 1gb sticks. Steven From wayward4now at gmail.com Tue May 12 04:06:38 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 00:06:38 -0400 Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <511866.44965.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <511866.44965.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1242101198.1133.166.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 10:58 -0700, Eric Marquez wrote: > > @Steven: > Thanks for your answer. And thanks for the tip, I'll try it. Where > exactly should I place that line (pci=nomsi )? do you mean in the Grub > menu? > > @Ric: > Thanks for your answer... your approach is interesting but, if the > problem should be Power Supply, why doesn't it happen in Windows > (remember I have a dual boot), and why didn't it happen when I had > kde3? To question #1 Yes, in the grub menu appended to the kernel line. To question #2 Should be no diff between the systems, but apparently there is! Can you tell what different is happening? I think you mentioned overheating and the fan running full tilt? You do have the power management stuff installed? acpid and acpid support? apmd?? Here's the description of apmd: "Debian kernels are built with APM support but it is disabled by default. You need to boot the kernel with the "apm=on" option if you want to enable the driver. (You may need to add this option to your lilo command line.) In most cases, users may want to know that there are newer power management schemes, like ACPI. Homepage: http://www.worldvisions.ca/~apenwarr/apmd/ " Maybe this is a direction to persue if it's the CPU / Fans problem? I run a server boxen, no problems with it so I haven't had to dink with power management. Just trouble shooting with a shotgun. What you had in KDE3 probably isn't enabled by default in KDE4?? It's a thought. I have no experience with laptops or overheating in a server. Maybe I better learn up on it though. Ric > -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Tue May 12 04:19:20 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 00:19:20 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905110955.32608.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905102019.30211.kassube@gmx.net> <200905101828.35576.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905110955.32608.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1242101960.1133.175.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 09:55 +0200, Nils Kassube wrote: > If you use folders instead, you can write data to the disk until you > reach the size limit of the entire disk, not the limit of individual > partitions. That just makes a whole lotta sense, especially when the user is challenged. There are a zillion ways to do things as there are a zillion users. Keeping it simple is always a good thing. Going at it bare-bones might not be Tom Swiftian nor Buck Rogerian, but it will work all the time, baring accidents of God or Computer Witchcraft Voodoo. For instances of the latter, I'll gleefully supply a Voodoo Chicken Foot for $29.99 plus $100 (US) shipping and handling. I'll take PayPal, too. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Tue May 12 04:26:37 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 00:26:37 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905101909.43969.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A07CC20.1000606@gmx.com> <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1242102397.1133.183.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 23:21 -0400, Steven Vollom wrote: > May I ask this? I have never actually lost data due to a broken HDD. Are > there any built-in warning mechanisms within HDD's that let you know when they > are about worn out? Do they fail, or break, without warning? How much of a > concern should that be? In 20+ years, I have never had one break. I have > always just replaced them with bigger drives. I can never be really sure, but > I think this may be the last expansion I will ever need for data, so wearing > out the drives or actual physical failure are what I am facing now. Even that > may be a bit oxymoronic, I am 66 years old. Steven, I'll give you 50/50 odds that you not only outlast the hard drives, but live to witness the new birth of the next generation storage medium ...which I predict will be a tabletop fish bowl of algae. You'll be telling the list how you decided to add Miracle Grow and all your artwork now looks like Paul Gauguin pieces. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From g.lip at gmx.com Tue May 12 05:44:20 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:44:20 +0800 Subject: Find References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905101909.43969.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A07CC20.1000606@gmx.com> <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: > >> Jaunty has no limitations on installing in primary or extended logicals, >> and allows you to set up /boot, /home, /almost_anything in a separate >> partition, primary or extended. > > I believe I understand now. What I plan, at this moment, subject to > change until the last moment, is to use the new 1TB SATA with a boot/OS > partition, a > swap partition and a /home partition. Once data is copied to the new > drive, I > will format/back-up, and exclusively use my 500gb SATA for Back-up. Then > I will install a 200gb IDE 133 that I have and create virtual machines, to > install and learn the use of other Linux OS's; I will also install in > Virtual a separate Jaunty current for the experimentation I always seem to > get myself into. > > The only part I am not completely confident in doing is to set up the OS > and applications so that when data is saved it always automatically goes > to the > storage partitions. I don't want the boot partition to contain any > important savable data that can be placed on drives that are not subject > to application > crashes and loss of data. I don't mind if doing this causes a little more > work to set up the configuration, as long as it doesn't slow the machine, > or > open a new kettle of worms that I don't anticipate. If I understand > correctly, this is a simple setup and perhaps the fastest too. > > As always, I am so grateful for the care and concern you have provided me. > Perhaps I will finally have a system that will function, more or less, as > it was intended by those who created the applications, as well as, cause a > little less burden on the List. > > May I ask this? I have never actually lost data due to a broken HDD. Are > there any built-in warning mechanisms within HDD's that let you know when > they > are about worn out? Do they fail, or break, without warning? How much of > a > concern should that be? In 20+ years, I have never had one break. I have > always just replaced them with bigger drives. I can never be really sure, > but I think this may be the last expansion I will ever need for data, so > wearing > out the drives or actual physical failure are what I am facing now. Even > that may be a bit oxymoronic, I am 66 years old. > > Most cordially, > > Steven Okay, Steven, good luck. But I think most of us here would not suggest it. But like what Nils put it so nicely, it is your decision, your computer and your life. And certainly you do not hurt anybody with your decision. re: broken HDD, I had 3 HD crashes... the first had a quiet whirring noise (or was it the fan?) when I start up the computer. the next 2 had no indications at all, the bios just couldn't detect any HDD, had error message saying something like 'hard disk not found' or 'please plug in your hard disk' But that was years ago...but I just want to add that it is no point worrying about hard disk failure; just back up regularly to some other media. It used to be 5 1/2 ins soft floppies, 3 1/2 ins hard floppies, 100 MB zips, Now we have external hard drives; a good one would be a SATA external hard drive, not that most USB external won't do, they work real fine. Regards, Goh Lip Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. - - Oscar Wilde From mirtosilvio.busico at fastwebnet.it Tue May 12 06:38:02 2009 From: mirtosilvio.busico at fastwebnet.it (Mirto Silvio Busico) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 08:38:02 +0200 Subject: linux-generic-2.6.28.11.15 - update still blocked In-Reply-To: <200905112332.12218.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <4A07E7EE.7050709@fastwebnet.it> <200905112332.12218.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A09194A.5040104@fastwebnet.it> Steven Vollom ha scritto: > On Monday 11 May 2009 05:10:48 am Eberhard Roloff wrote: > >> kde 4.2.3 ppa >> > It has been a while, my friend. I hope all is well with you and yours. I > went to the site where KDE 4.2.3 PPA is offered, but I did not see the > distinction for 64 bit. Is that a concern for me? I operate 64bit now. > Sorry, when I started the thread I forgot to say I'm using 64 bit version. So I also need a Jaunty 64 bit version > I did see AMD 64bit, but it was for Intrepid. > > I don't recall getting any additional infor re: the laptop ram I have. No one > has seemed to need it so far. It is just sitting her, so if you can use it, I > will send it. 2 1gb sticks. > > Steven > > Mirto -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mirtosilvio_busico.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 272 bytes Desc: not available URL: From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Tue May 12 11:07:39 2009 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:07:39 +0300 Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <511866.44965.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <511866.44965.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40905120407o187d092eoed02cbf32619a54b@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/11 Eric Marquez : > @Steven: > Thanks for your answer. And thanks for the tip, I'll try it. Where exactly > should I place that line (pci=nomsi )? do you mean in the Grub menu? > > @Ric: >  Thanks for your answer... your approach is interesting but, if the problem > should be Power Supply, why doesn't it happen in Windows (remember I have a > dual boot), and why didn't it happen when I had kde3? > > @Lamanary Ramos de Pina: >  Lamanary: thanks for the link. It's very interesting and it's the first > time I see this problem categorized as Bug. All the descriptions of the > problem are not exactly as mine, so I'm not sure that's exactly my case, but > anyway I'll subscribe to that bug and try to participate. I'll do anything > to solve this problem. > > from my experience with computers, though you said windows and KDE3 were fine, is that such freezes occur with hardware problems concerning hard disk drives and CD drives. my computer for instance, freezes completely if i insert a damage or scratched CD, nothing, even ther mouse stops moving until i click eject. since i do a lot of maintenance for people, i attack foreign hard disks a lot to my system, sometime SATA sometime the old PATA, in both cases, a hard disk with some bad sectors, connector probrlms orany kind of misbehaving, generaly stuff that lets the HD take a long time to respond (if it ever responded) freezes the whole system till the response is given, and in many times, to save my system (i know it's very unrecommended) i just resort to unplugging the hard disk from the board connectors to be able to get my system back and shut it down properly. your problem could be totally unrelated to this kind of hardware issues, but for a start to diagnose, are you using the same hard disk, same partition as when you were using KDE3? hope this helps -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Tue May 12 11:13:55 2009 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:13:55 +0300 Subject: update-notifier-kde hogging cpu In-Reply-To: <4A0827FA.7000709@gmail.com> References: <4A0827FA.7000709@gmail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40905120413h292df1a1u7df12b08b96a8cf@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/11 Paul S : > Anyone else notice update-notifier-kde (0.19) is hogging a lot of cpu? > top shows python using 1 full cpu here, and ps shows it's > update-notifier-kde and printer-applet.  killing update-notifier-kde > drops python off top. > *raises hand* me! me! damn, it's killing me, sometimes it shows in the notification area with a corrupted icon, i know right away something is worng, i hit CTRL+ESC and boom, a python program which is the notifier is consuming 30~40% (which really is 60~80% since ksysguard doesn't seperate multithreaded processors). in many times it behaves correctly, it consumes a bit of CPU while running aptitude update, that is understandable. but on many other occasions it's plain annoying and unneeded, and no, there are no package managers in the background doing an update at the times the program misbehaves. it's weird, and this is only a recent issue. -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Tue May 12 11:16:43 2009 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:16:43 +0300 Subject: Removed root from sudoers group: NEVER MIND In-Reply-To: References: <4c6e034d0905071101g30baa54m9fbfe164b624359b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40905120416r6de5ebblbb0a5f9207316fca@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/7 Richard S. Crawford : > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Antonio Augusto (Mancha) > wrote: >> 2009/5/7 Richard S. Crawford : >>> Fixed. >> >> mind to tell how? > > Rebooted the computer with the LiveCD > > Once rebooted, I went to a terminal (ctrl+alt+F1), and logged in with root via > > $ sudo su > > Then I created a mount point under mnt: > > $ mkdir /mnt/local > > ...and mounted the local hard drive there. > > $ mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/local > > (the location of the hard drive might vary in your install; I used > fdisk -l to figure it out.) > > Then I edited /mnt/local/etc/group and re-added deguser to the admin group. > /etc/group? now i feel stupid for the many times i chrooted to my installed system for such silly operations. > Only took me half an hour to figure it out. My Google fu is mighty. > > -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From gmane at auxbuss.com Tue May 12 11:21:16 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: How to set email client for firefox? Message-ID: In Jaunty, when I click a mailto url, the wrong email client is used. System settings/Default applications is set to the correct email preference, but clearly this is being ignored. It's also possible to set the email client in FF via Options/Prefs/Apps/ mailto. However, the only entries on there are evolution and Yahoo mail! First, I think this is a bug, so will raise it, but any idea how do you change the "default" applications in FF Pref/Apps? -- Best, Marc From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Tue May 12 11:23:48 2009 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:23:48 +0300 Subject: kdebase-runtime won't upgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15edeae40905120423s77c6a05cw56857d178caaf715@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/9 Richard S. Crawford : > I'm trying to upgrade to KDE 4.2.3, and having a heck of a time > because kdebase-runtime doesn't seem to want to upgrade. When I use > Adept or the apt-get command line tools, the installation of KDE 4.2.3 > halts because of this issue, each time throwing this error: > >   depends on kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.2.3); however: >  Version of kdebase-runtime on system is 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1. > > Where is any of the software packages it wants to install. > > I have tried sudo dpkg --configure -a and sudo apt-get -f install, and > both operations fail because of this issue. > > How can I fix this? > weird, no problems here. but as myriam said, maybe you were too early to start upgrading. is this resolved now? -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Tue May 12 11:27:35 2009 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:27:35 +0300 Subject: regression focus bug again In-Reply-To: References: <4A04A6C8.20501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40905120427l7ce229aao5bd25bca93e2e694@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/9 marc : > Paul S said: > >> After upgrading to kde 4.2.3, I again have the focus bug where Alt-F1 >> pops up menu, but it does not get focus.  Same with Alt-F2 .. it opens >> but no focus.  Same with any window opening .. it does not get focus. >> >> This occurred before, and was fixed, but now is back.  Or is there >> something I have to reconfig? > > Yup, I get this occasionally. It seems to correct itself after a logout > or suspend. Very irritating, though. > maybe it's specific to the windows open? i know for sure, for instance, that amsn's main window always steals focus when i minimise some window, even if it's been a while since i touched it, even if another window is appearing on top, amsn in the far back )it always have the keep below option turned on) is having focus. maybe you have such an issue too? that's why you think it's resolved after an X restart, maybe your focus thief is just not running after the X restart? -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Tue May 12 11:37:05 2009 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:37:05 +0300 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <1241845713.20543.84.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <1241756713.6271.113.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <1241845713.20543.84.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <15edeae40905120437q2578fd74wfc3267b94785c8a4@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/9 Ric Moore : > On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 08:15 +0000, marc wrote: >> Ric Moore said: > >> > But this may shed some light... When I worked at RedHat, I could never >> > get my Ex's printer to work. Darn embarrassing to be on the Help Desk >> > fixing everyone elses printers. We had one whizbang that fired up emacs, >> > had ten terminals with code pouring down the screens like the matrix. >> > Impressed me! Then he started narrowing down the problem to samba not >> > being configured correctly. I'm going she doesn't NEED Samba and I >> > ripped it out. The printer worked right off. Samba was trying to network >> > a printer that hadn't been configured correctly for the system. The cart >> > before the horse, so to speak. You can rip out Samba, after saving >> > config files if you need it or rip it out for good if you don't need it. >> > One less thing in the way. >> >> I'll give that a spin. Thanks. > > Let us know how it works. I later re-installed Samba on her machine and > it picked up on the local printer it found and configured it for use > easily. I guess it needs to be configured locally before the install of > samba. It would be interesting if this was indeed the case. Good Luck! > Ric > my samsung ML-1610 works out of the box in jaunty, it got recognized right away and auto-configured while installing jaunty alpha-3 or 4, cant remember from an alternate CD. and in all previous versions, using http://localhost:631 always opens up a CUSP page, and the printer can always be found by the detect new printer functionality, which configures the printer way easier than add a new printer. and yes, my printer is USB as well. can you make sure the printer is detected by the system? i'm no lspci or lsusb or whatever expert, but kinfocenter/USB should point you in the right direction if the printer is seen or not. -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Tue May 12 11:46:57 2009 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:46:57 +0300 Subject: Upgrade to KDE 4.2.3- Public Key In-Reply-To: <200905082254.44070.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com> References: <200905072322.10955.rjlapham@gmail.com> <200905090007.14650.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> <200905081621.13414.sclewin@sgaming.ca> <200905082254.44070.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40905120446h544a544ch7edc0eee1c0523a@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/8 Ulrich Grün : > Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 22:21:13 schrieb Scott: >> On May 8, 2009 10:07:14 am Lindsay Mathieson wrote: >> > On Fri, 8 May 2009 11:30:29 pm Goh Lip wrote: >> > > Does anyone know where the public key is? >> > >> > sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com >> > 2836CB0A8AC93F7A >> >> Thank you from me as well. I was trying to find this on Google and could >> not find it. Thanks. :) >> > > And I second the motion :-) > I got same kind of error message, for some other missing key. It's fixed > now. > general advice for importing keys of trusted sources. if you go to the page of the PPA you're using, in this case, it's https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa you'll notice a link "Follow these instructions for installing packages from this PPA" pointing to this site: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories read it, and you'll always know how to import the key of your PPAs :) -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Tue May 12 11:52:16 2009 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:52:16 +0300 Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <15edeae40905120407o187d092eoed02cbf32619a54b@mail.gmail.com> References: <511866.44965.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <15edeae40905120407o187d092eoed02cbf32619a54b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40905120452jf186a36kfaf5e917e687bd34@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/12 Willy Hamra : > 2009/5/11 Eric Marquez : >> @Steven: >> Thanks for your answer. And thanks for the tip, I'll try it. Where exactly >> should I place that line (pci=nomsi )? do you mean in the Grub menu? >> >> @Ric: >>  Thanks for your answer... your approach is interesting but, if the problem >> should be Power Supply, why doesn't it happen in Windows (remember I have a >> dual boot), and why didn't it happen when I had kde3? >> >> @Lamanary Ramos de Pina: >>  Lamanary: thanks for the link. It's very interesting and it's the first >> time I see this problem categorized as Bug. All the descriptions of the >> problem are not exactly as mine, so I'm not sure that's exactly my case, but >> anyway I'll subscribe to that bug and try to participate. I'll do anything >> to solve this problem. >> >> > damn, need to proof read better next time: > from my experience with computers, though you said windows and KDE3 > were fine, is that such freezes occur with hardware problems > concerning hard disk drives and CD drives. > my computer for instance, freezes completely if i insert a damage or damaged* > scratched CD, nothing, even ther mouse stops moving until i click > eject. > since i do a lot of maintenance for people, i attack foreign hard attack? attach* > disks a lot to my system, sometime SATA sometime the old PATA, in both > cases, a hard disk with some bad sectors, connector probrlms or any > kind of misbehaving, generaly stuff that lets the HD take a long time > to respond (if it ever responded) freezes the whole system till the > response is given, and in many times, to save my system (i know it's > very unrecommended)  i just resort to unplugging the hard disk from > the board connectors to be able to get my system back and shut it down > properly. > your problem could be totally unrelated to this kind of hardware > issues, but for a start to diagnose, are you using the same hard disk, > same partition as when you were using KDE3? > hope this helps > > > -- > Willy K. Hamra > Manager of Hamra Information Systems > Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. > -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From guethling at googlemail.com Tue May 12 12:07:34 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 08:07:34 -0400 Subject: How to set email client for firefox? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8abf83c20905120507y664eac68qe05c9acc8480a4f4@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:21 AM, marc wrote: > In Jaunty, when I click a mailto url, the wrong email client is used. > System settings/Default applications is set to the correct email > preference, but clearly this is being ignored. > > It's also possible to set the email client in FF via Options/Prefs/Apps/ > mailto. However, the only entries on there are evolution and Yahoo mail! > > First, I think this is a bug, so will raise it, but any idea how do you > change the "default" applications in FF Pref/Apps? > > -- > Best, > Marc > Hey Marc, There is no bug. At least I don't think it is. Firefox is a multi platform browser and if you think about the sheer amount of Linux distros alone, you see where the problem lays. Since every distro has its own preferred email client (and we don't even speak about the user preferences) it is almost impossible to satisfy every user. You can choose whichever email client you like to use in Firefox under Preferences > Applications. For the mailto entry choose "Use other...", a file dialog will pop up and lets you choose the executable of your preferred email client. Go to /usr/bin (that's where most of the applications are) and choose an application. Close the Preferences and you should be good to go. I hope that helps. If not, let us know. 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Some time ago I filed a bug report requesting user-accessible >>> documentation on this very issue. >> Do you have a ref? >> I couldn't find it, so I filed a new report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192444 Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From gmane at auxbuss.com Tue May 12 13:15:27 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: How to set email client for firefox? References: <8abf83c20905120507y664eac68qe05c9acc8480a4f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sascha Güthling twice said the following, but once in HTML, which has been deleted: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:21 AM, marc wrote: > >> In Jaunty, when I click a mailto url, the wrong email client is used. >> System settings/Default applications is set to the correct email >> preference, but clearly this is being ignored. >> >> It's also possible to set the email client in FF via >> Options/Prefs/Apps/ mailto. However, the only entries on there are >> evolution and Yahoo mail! >> >> First, I think this is a bug, so will raise it, but any idea how do you >> change the "default" applications in FF Pref/Apps? > > There is no bug. At least I don't think it is. Firefox is a multi > platform browser and if you think about the sheer amount of Linux > distros alone, you see where the problem lays. Since every distro has > its own preferred email client (and we don't even speak about the user > preferences) it is almost impossible to satisfy every user. Yup, yup, but setting the default mailto to evolution is weird, especially _without_ the option to change the default. I grep'd ~/.mozilla and a few other places, and examined about:config, but it's not to be found. I think that's a bug. > You can choose whichever email client you like to use in Firefox under > Preferences > Applications. For the mailto entry choose "Use other...", > a file dialog will pop up and lets you choose the executable of your > preferred email client. Go to /usr/bin (that's where most of the > applications are) and choose an application. Close the Preferences and > you should be good to go. Yup, yup, easy stuff. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Tue May 12 13:19:55 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:19:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <1241756713.6271.113.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <1241845713.20543.84.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <15edeae40905120437q2578fd74wfc3267b94785c8a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Willy Hamra said: > 2009/5/9 Ric Moore : >> On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 08:15 +0000, marc wrote: >>> Ric Moore said: >> >>> > But this may shed some light... When I worked at RedHat, I could >>> > never get my Ex's printer to work. Darn embarrassing to be on the >>> > Help Desk fixing everyone elses printers. We had one whizbang that >>> > fired up emacs, had ten terminals with code pouring down the screens >>> > like the matrix. Impressed me! Then he started narrowing down the >>> > problem to samba not being configured correctly. I'm going she >>> > doesn't NEED Samba and I ripped it out. The printer worked right >>> > off. Samba was trying to network a printer that hadn't been >>> > configured correctly for the system. The cart before the horse, so >>> > to speak. You can rip out Samba, after saving config files if you >>> > need it or rip it out for good if you don't need it. One less thing >>> > in the way. >>> >>> I'll give that a spin. Thanks. >> >> Let us know how it works. I later re-installed Samba on her machine and >> it picked up on the local printer it found and configured it for use >> easily. I guess it needs to be configured locally before the install of >> samba. It would be interesting if this was indeed the case. Good Luck! >> Ric >> >> > my samsung ML-1610 works out of the box in jaunty, it got recognized > right away and auto-configured while installing jaunty alpha-3 or 4, > cant remember from an alternate CD. and in all previous versions, using > http://localhost:631 always opens up a CUSP page, and the printer can > always be found by the detect new printer functionality, which > configures the printer way easier than add a new printer. and yes, my > printer is USB as well. > can you make sure the printer is detected by the system? i'm no lspci or > lsusb or whatever expert, but kinfocenter/USB should point you in the > right direction if the printer is seen or not. Good call. Hadn't thought to use kinfocenter. And yes, it can be seen. iP5300 Manufacturer: Canon Serial No.: 10CA72 Class 0 ((Defined at Interface level)) Subclass 0 Protocol 0 USB Version 2.00 Vendor ID 0x4a9 (Canon, Inc.) Product ID 0x10b7 Revision 0.00 Speed 480 Mbit/s Channels 0 Max. Packet Size 64 Well, that's progress of a sort. Thanks. -- Best, Marc From guethling at googlemail.com Tue May 12 13:34:57 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:34:57 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905101909.43969.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A07CC20.1000606@gmx.com> <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <8abf83c20905120634m6611cf87q48dcc327a51ce258@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Steven Vollom wrote: > > I believe I understand now.  What I plan, at this moment, subject to change > until the last moment, is to use the new 1TB SATA with a boot/OS partition, a > swap partition and a /home partition.  Once data is copied to the new drive, I > will format/back-up, and exclusively use my 500gb SATA for Back-up.  Then I > will install a 200gb IDE 133 that I have and create virtual machines, to > install and learn the use of other Linux OS's; I will also  install in Virtual > a separate Jaunty current for the experimentation I always seem to get myself > into. > > The only part I am not completely confident in doing is to set up the OS and > applications so that when data is saved it always automatically goes to the > storage partitions.  I don't want the boot partition to contain any important > savable data that can be placed on drives that are not subject to application > crashes and loss of data.  I don't mind if doing this causes a little more > work to set up the configuration, as long as it doesn't slow the machine, or > open a new kettle of worms that I don't anticipate.  If I understand > correctly, this is a simple setup and perhaps the fastest too. > > > Most cordially, > > Steven > Hi Steven, I basically have the same setup that you intend to go for, without the extra hard drives. I have a system partition, a swap and a home partition. And that works great for me. My user data is save in the home partition, even if I install everything new, I still have my music and pictures where they used to be. Here a short explanation how that works (since I think you did not yet FULLY understand what you are going to do, no offense, correct me if I'm wrong): The /home folder is where every user on the system has its own folder for his own data. In your case the folder /home/Steven. There could be others if you had more users. If you setup your system only using one partition (plus maybe swap) the home folder is really just a folder within that partition. Now Linux has the very cool feature, that you can mount a partition in any folder on another partition. Usually partitions are mounted in /mnt/PutInANameHere. Removable media are mounted automatically in /media/... The cool thing about the possibility to mount a partition in any folder is, that you can have data on different partitions or even hdds without having to change your or the system behavior. When you now mount a partition under /home your data gets automatically stored there in a folder named /Steven. If you mount that same partition under /mnt/test afterwards the folder /Steven appears now under /mnt/test but not under /home (THIS is just and example, please don't do that because it will prevent you from logging in to your system) I guess you get the message, by mounting something elsewhere you can move the data logically without moving it physically. Also you can use the same /Steven folder in a different Linux installation. You could have any number of systems on different partitions and mount your home partition in each one under /home and would see the folder /Steven in each one of them. So here is how you do it: When you have your new disk, put your system physically together. Start from a CD and start installing the system. When you get to the point where it asks you where to install the system don't use any of the suggestions but go to advanced (or so). Now it will scan your disks and show you what you currently have. Choose your new 1TB disk and create your /root partition on it. Don't make it too small or too big. Then create your swap space (should be at least as big as your RAM if you want to use Suspend to Disk). Now create another partition and choose /home as mount point in the dialog. With that done, your system now will create your user folder under /home and all your data will be stored there. Automatically. For your old 500GB disk create a mount point under /mnt, for example /mnt/backup (since you want to use it as that later). I don't know what the button is called but don't delete any partition or create a new one. You should be able to click on the partition and change the mount point somehow. Make sure, better check twice, that this partition does NOT get formatted. If there is a swap partition on that disk, leave it unmounted for now. This will mount your old disk under /mnt/backup and all your data will still be there. After transferring the data to your new /home folder you can repartition and format this disk and make it one big backup partition. Delete all partitions on your old 200GB disk (if they don't contain any data you want to keep). Create a new partition with a mount point under /mnt, for example /mnt/virtual. Once you start creating virtual machines you can just tell the virtualization program to store the machines under /mnt/virtual and you have your virtual machines on your virtual machines disk. If you think you screwed something up in the process, you can always go one step back in the installation process and start all over again. The physical changes are not made until you go to the next step in the installation process. Good luck. Cheers Sascha From guethling at googlemail.com Tue May 12 13:45:47 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:45:47 -0400 Subject: How to set email client for firefox? In-Reply-To: References: <8abf83c20905120507y664eac68qe05c9acc8480a4f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8abf83c20905120645pde16389wf51789a0d931006b@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:15 AM, marc wrote: > Sascha Güthling twice said the following, but once in HTML, which has > been deleted: > >> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:21 AM, marc wrote: >> >>> In Jaunty, when I click a mailto url, the wrong email client is used. >>> System settings/Default applications is set to the correct email >>> preference, but clearly this is being ignored. >>> >>> It's also possible to set the email client in FF via >>> Options/Prefs/Apps/ mailto. However, the only entries on there are >>> evolution and Yahoo mail! >>> >>> First, I think this is a bug, so will raise it, but any idea how do you >>> change the "default" applications in FF Pref/Apps? >> >> There is no bug. At least I don't think it is. Firefox is a multi >> platform browser and if you think about the sheer amount of Linux >> distros alone, you see where the problem lays. Since every distro has >> its own preferred email client (and we don't even speak about the user >> preferences) it is almost impossible to satisfy every user. > > Yup, yup, but setting the default mailto to evolution is weird, > especially _without_ the option to change the default. I grep'd > ~/.mozilla and a few other places, and examined about:config, but it's > not to be found. I think that's a bug. > Are you in Ubuntu? Evolution is afaik the standard for Ubuntu and probably set as this by Ubuntu and not by Firefox. There is a branding package called ubufox that does that I think. In my Firefox installation the standard was set to "Always ask" > >> You can choose whichever email client you like to use in Firefox under >> Preferences > Applications. For the mailto entry choose "Use other...", >> a file dialog will pop up and lets you choose the executable of your >> preferred email client. Go to /usr/bin (that's where most of the >> applications are) and choose an application. Close the Preferences and >> you should be good to go. > > Yup, yup, easy stuff. > > -- > Best, > Marc > Cheers Sascha From kassube at gmx.net Tue May 12 14:30:13 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:30:13 +0200 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A07CC20.1000606@gmx.com> <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905121630.13996.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > The only part I am not completely confident in doing is to set up the > OS and applications so that when data is saved it always > automatically goes to the storage partitions. I don't want the boot > partition to contain any important savable data that can be placed on > drives that are not subject to application crashes and loss of data. With a separate home partition all your applications will save the data on that partition because they put the data somewhere in your home directory (unless you tell them something different). So there is no extra work necessary. > May I ask this? I have never actually lost data due to a broken HDD. > Are there any built-in warning mechanisms within HDD's that let you > know when they are about worn out? Some disks have the S.M.A.R.T. monitoring festure [1], but I wouldn't rely on it. > Do they fail, or break, without > warning? You never know before if it will fail. Some disks show errors before failure but it isn't necessarily so. Therefore it is always good to have backups. > How much of a concern should that be? In 20+ years, I have > never had one break. I have always just replaced them with bigger > drives. Same here, more or less. In ~20 years I had just one disk with problems. It was from a known to be bad series of Fujitsu disks. The electronics was faulty after about 2.5 years of operation (but it is working again now and I still use it for tests). > I can never be really sure, but I think this may be the last > expansion I will ever need for data, so wearing out the drives or > actual physical failure are what I am facing now. You will certainly need bigger disks in the future. When I started playing with Linux, my 170MB disk was quite big. Nowadays Kubuntu probably wouldn't even run with 170MB of RAM, let alone disk space. Think about it, who would have thought about storing many movies on a PC 10 years ago? There will always be new use cases of more and more disk space. Nils [1] From derek at pointerstop.ca Tue May 12 16:51:27 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:51:27 -0300 Subject: Find References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A07CC20.1000606@gmx.com> <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905121630.13996.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils Kassube wrote: > You never know before if it will fail. Some disks show errors before > failure but it isn't necessarily so. Therefore it is always good to have > backups. > >> How much of a concern should that be? In 20+ years, I have >> never had one break. I have always just replaced them with bigger >> drives. > > Same here, more or less. In ~20 years I had just one disk with problems. > It was from a known to be bad series of Fujitsu disks. I'd guess you either keep machines for a shorter time than I do, or neither of you use laptops (or at least don't travel with them daily, often on a motorcycle). I also have only had one failure I can remember in a desktop machine (that was my very first XT, and it was probably more than 6 years old at the time), but I don't get three years out of a laptop drive. My last 2.5" HP/SeaGate managed about 14 months before dieing completely - can't even spin it up any more. -- derek From valtermura at gmail.com Tue May 12 18:20:07 2009 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:20:07 +0200 Subject: Panel colors in KDE 4.2.2 In-Reply-To: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <200905040008.28817.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905122020.08261.valtermura@gmail.com> lunedì 4 maggio 2009 Jerry Lapham ha scritto: > How do you change panel colors - both background and text? > Go to System Settings/Appereance -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From wilson.pr.gm at gmail.com Tue May 12 18:33:46 2009 From: wilson.pr.gm at gmail.com (Patricia Wilson) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:33:46 -0700 Subject: help with adept_manager lock Message-ID: <3288dd4d0905121133w44ee0955te7112f246e9d201a@mail.gmail.com> When I try to use adept_manager to do the upgrade to 9.04 I get an error message -- Unable to get exclusive lock With detail -- This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first. I had the system go down during a prior attempt to do the upgrade and suspect that there may be a lock file somewhere that didn't get cleaned up. Can anyone help me find that/those lockfile(s)? TIA . . . -- Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Tue May 12 19:48:09 2009 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:48:09 +0100 Subject: run time error Message-ID: <4A09D279.4000706@btinternet.com> Below is a tarball extraction, when I run the executable I get the error you see. I'm guessing that there is a Library Path, similar to MANPATH, PATH, etc - because the wanted file is there and maybe the executable needs a library path set to enable it to find it. I've tried 'echo $LIBRARYPATH but that returns null. My memory has got the moth and what I'm trying to do might not work in kubuntu or for the gib executable. anyway, but... hopefully some-one can put me on the right PATH. brian ------------------------------------------------------------- brian%ls bridge engine gib INSTALL mb.txt Saved Deals Systems demos eval.dat images locale sample Saved Games brian%./gib ./gib: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory brian%ls -ls /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2009-05-12 19:26 /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 -> libgtk-1.2.so.0.9.1 1464 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1493656 2008-01-05 19:43 /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0.9.1 brian% -------------------------------------------------- From g.lip at gmx.com Tue May 12 20:25:06 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 04:25:06 +0800 Subject: help with adept_manager lock In-Reply-To: <3288dd4d0905121133w44ee0955te7112f246e9d201a@mail.gmail.com> References: <3288dd4d0905121133w44ee0955te7112f246e9d201a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A09DB22.6000009@gmx.com> Patricia Wilson wrote: > When I try to use adept_manager to do the upgrade to 9.04 I get an error > message -- Unable to get exclusive lock > With detail -- > This usually means that another package management application (like > apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first. > > I had the system go down during a prior attempt to do the upgrade and > suspect that there may be a lock file somewhere that didn't get cleaned > up. Can anyone help me find that/those lockfile(s)? > > Try sudo dpkg --configure -a or sudo apt-get install -f From gmane at auxbuss.com Tue May 12 21:02:26 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:02:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: How to set email client for firefox? References: <8abf83c20905120507y664eac68qe05c9acc8480a4f4@mail.gmail.com> <8abf83c20905120645pde16389wf51789a0d931006b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sascha Güthling said: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:15 AM, marc wrote: >> Sascha Güthling twice said the following, but once in HTML, which has >> been deleted: >> >>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:21 AM, marc wrote: >>> >>>> In Jaunty, when I click a mailto url, the wrong email client is used. >>>> System settings/Default applications is set to the correct email >>>> preference, but clearly this is being ignored. >>>> >>>> It's also possible to set the email client in FF via >>>> Options/Prefs/Apps/ mailto. However, the only entries on there are >>>> evolution and Yahoo mail! >>>> >>>> First, I think this is a bug, so will raise it, but any idea how do >>>> you change the "default" applications in FF Pref/Apps? >>> >>> There is no bug. At least I don't think it is. Firefox is a multi >>> platform browser and if you think about the sheer amount of Linux >>> distros alone, you see where the problem lays. Since every distro has >>> its own preferred email client (and we don't even speak about the user >>> preferences) it is almost impossible to satisfy every user. >> >> Yup, yup, but setting the default mailto to evolution is weird, >> especially _without_ the option to change the default. I grep'd >> ~/.mozilla and a few other places, and examined about:config, but it's >> not to be found. I think that's a bug. >> > Are you in Ubuntu? Who cares? Seriously! All my machines have Ubuntu and Kubuntu on them and often a few others. In this case I am using Kubuntu. Kubuntu and Ubuntu, et al should be able to deal with that. Always has done in the past. > Evolution is afaik the standard for Ubuntu and > probably set as this by Ubuntu and not by Firefox. There is a branding > package called ubufox that does that I think. In my Firefox installation > the standard was set to "Always ask" Hmm Okay. I'll check Ubuntu tomorrow, but I suspect that Ubuntu has hijacked kde again. Sorry to sound negative, but I'm beginning to get a bad feeling about Ubuntu and the Shuttleworth project. Thanks for the info. -- Best, Marc From wilson.pr.gm at gmail.com Tue May 12 21:10:23 2009 From: wilson.pr.gm at gmail.com (Patricia Wilson) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:10:23 -0700 Subject: help with adept_manager lock In-Reply-To: <4A09DB22.6000009@gmx.com> References: <3288dd4d0905121133w44ee0955te7112f246e9d201a@mail.gmail.com> <4A09DB22.6000009@gmx.com> Message-ID: <3288dd4d0905121410l698ac7d5n787603af2e3a6eaa@mail.gmail.com> I tried both and am still getting the same error. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Goh Lip wrote: > Patricia Wilson wrote: > > When I try to use adept_manager to do the upgrade to 9.04 I get an error > > message -- Unable to get exclusive lock > > With detail -- > > This usually means that another package management application (like > > apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application > first. > > > > I had the system go down during a prior attempt to do the upgrade and > > suspect that there may be a lock file somewhere that didn't get cleaned > > up. Can anyone help me find that/those lockfile(s)? > > > > > > Try > > sudo dpkg --configure -a > > or > > sudo apt-get install -f > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fatgerman at ntlworld.com Tue May 12 23:06:54 2009 From: fatgerman at ntlworld.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:06:54 +0100 Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? Message-ID: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> I will probably raise this as a bug, but X confuses the living goo out of me so I'd like to probe the collective wisdom here first.. On my Asus eee box, X has inexplicably decided I have 2 displays attached, despite there only being one connector for a monitor, and that being connected to my flatscreen TV's VGA port. Very odd. Anyway it seems that because it thinks I have 2 screens it has also enabled the horror that is Xinerama and this is causing mythtv no small amount of confusion. Now that we have this new improved X which ignores xorg.conf, how can I disable xinerama? Or how can I inform it politely that I only have one screen? While I'm at it, can I also force it to use a specific refresh rate? It's defaulting to 60Hz, but 50Hz would be much friendlier for my 25Hz PAL TV signal. I've already tried putting 'VertRefresh 50' under the "Monitor" section, but this causes no picture to appear on my TV, which I'm sure is capable of 50Hz. Thanks Mark From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 00:12:03 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:12:03 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <8abf83c20905120634m6611cf87q48dcc327a51ce258@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <8abf83c20905120634m6611cf87q48dcc327a51ce258@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905122012.03528.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> (Trim) > Here a short explanation how that works (since I think you did not yet > FULLY understand what you are going to do, no offense, correct me if > I'm wrong): None taken, but one of the most wonderful of situations has happened, I really believe I completely understand and can do the partitioning, I was a bit confused how to get data going directly to the /home partition, but later in your email I think you explained it well enough for me to execute your instruction. This may be impossible, but can a person have data saved to the /home partition and the backup partition simultaneously? That would keep my backup current all the time. Would doing that slow the computer down? Since I have 8gb of RAM, won't that make the duplicated task manageable? (Trim) > Linux has the very cool feature, that you can mount a partition in any > folder on another partition. Usually partitions are mounted in > /mnt/PutInANameHere. Removable media are mounted automatically in > /media/... The cool thing about the possibility to mount a partition > in any folder is, that you can have data on different partitions or > even hdds without having to change your or the system behavior. This is exactly what I want to accomplish, I believe. About 3 years ago, when I first used Linux, I was instructed to mount all my partitions except swap and boot using /media/Drive Identity. It has been a major cause of problems ever since. I am hoping that most of my problems will disappear when I use proper mounting points for my partitions. (Trim) > I guess you get the message, by mounting something > elsewhere you can move the data logically without moving it > physically. This statement confuses me. Isn't the data physically installed where I direct it? > Also you can use the same /Steven folder in a different Linux > installation. You could have any number of systems on different > partitions and mount your home partition in each one under /home and > would see the folder /Steven in each one of them. ...so data automatically saved while using the virtual machines is stored in the same folder? I am putting so much in the way of new thinking in right now, I want to confirm this, however, is there an easy way to identify the saved material from each virtual box so that when reviewing data from one particular OS, it will be easy to identify its data from the other OS's? Would it be like /home/steven/virtual 1/........../virtual 2/.......... /virtual 3 etc? This is where my plan got a bit fuzzy, and I thought I would need help. Additionally, will the other applications, like Kmail and Konqueror and Gimp, for example automatically save to the /home/steven mount? That was an important part of my plan. I want all application's saved data to be automatically saved safely in storage, not on the boot partition. I don't really know, but my impressions is that much of that kind of data is located on the boot partition under root. If so, is it possible to have such data saved on the same partition all other saved data is saved? If so, will this slow the computer down? Do I have to create duplicate files and configure the boot partition to do this, or is this too much for my computer to handle with current technology. My vision of what I want to do, saw this as a great way to retain all information, I might have to make special considerations for, when installing a new OS. For example moving all my email records and address book, bookmarks and the such. Plus anything else I may have forgotten that fits the criteria. (Trim) >Choose your new 1TB disk > and create your /root partition on it. Don't make it too small or too > big. Would 30gb be enough for a healthy OS plus all ancillary applications or 40gb or 50gb? I can spare at least that. I have 8gb of memory, so swap should be 8gb+ 1gb for the video cards? > Then create your swap space (should be at least as big as your > RAM if you want to use Suspend to Disk). I have never used this feature, however it sounds interesting. Will you explain how and why? > Now create another partition > and choose /home as mount point in the dialog. With that done, your > system now will create your user folder under /home and all your data > will be stored there. Automatically. Again, will this also include the other stuff, like email and bookmarks automatically? > > For your old 500GB disk create a mount point under /mnt, for example > /mnt/backup (since you want to use it as that later). I don't know > what the button is called but don't delete any partition or create a > new one. You should be able to click on the partition and change the > mount point somehow. I have things relatively screwed up on my current setup, so I must pause and think about this. I am considering carefully copying data to the new drive in a more appropriate configuration and order. Then review the data on the current drive to make sure I haven't missed anything important, then make any necessary additional movements of data and format the drive. Then move all critical information back to the existing drive. I realize this is a lot of extra work, but I don't trust how the data is currently saved, and I would rather do extra work now than have continuing problems created by yesterday's foolishness. (Trim >Once you start creating virtual > machines you can just tell the virtualization program to store the > machines under /mnt/virtual and you have your virtual machines on your > virtual machines disk. I don't have any understanding about setting up virtual machines. Does each machine have to be set up using partitions with swap, or do they swap to the original swap partition from my primary Operating System? This is a new area of thought for me. > > If you think you screwed something up in the process, you can always > go one step back in the installation process and start all over again. > The physical changes are not made until you go to the next step in the > installation process. > > Good luck. Thanks Sascha, > Cheers And Cheers to you too, Steven I am grateful for the time you spent on this; you are remarkable. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 00:22:01 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:22:01 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <1242102397.1133.183.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <1242102397.1133.183.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200905122022.01620.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Tuesday 12 May 2009 12:26:37 am Ric Moore wrote: > On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 23:21 -0400, Steven Vollom wrote: > > May I ask this? I have never actually lost data due to a broken HDD. > > Are there any built-in warning mechanisms within HDD's that let you know > > when they are about worn out? Do they fail, or break, without warning? > > How much of a concern should that be? In 20+ years, I have never had one > > break. I have always just replaced them with bigger drives. I can never > > be really sure, but I think this may be the last expansion I will ever > > need for data, so wearing out the drives or actual physical failure are > > what I am facing now. Even that may be a bit oxymoronic, I am 66 years > > old. > > Steven, I'll give you 50/50 odds that you not only outlast the hard > drives, I hope you are right; my father's side of the family has ruled the genetic longevity test, until him, the oldest know was to pass at 47. I am so far past that now, I think the cycle is broken. I am going to plan for forever and accept what I get. What other choice do I have? > but live to witness the new birth of the next generation storage > medium The way they have been going, you may be right. Writing programs on gas molecules is probably next, and tomorrow Quarks. > ...which I predict will be a tabletop fish bowl of algae. You'll > be telling the list how you decided to add Miracle Grow and all your > artwork now looks like Paul Gauguin pieces. Ric I like his work. I even was accused of copying style a bit once. Didn't like that much, but at least I was copying a style that is probably better than my own. > > -- > > My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: > "There are two Great Sins in the world... > ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. > Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. > Linux user# 44256 > https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ > Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 00:25:30 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:25:30 -0400 Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <1242101198.1133.166.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <511866.44965.qm@web53301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1242101198.1133.166.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200905122025.30339.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> (Trim) > > Maybe this is a direction to persue if it's the CPU / Fans problem? I > run a server boxen, no problems with it so I haven't had to dink with > power management. Just trouble shooting with a shotgun. For me, it was just getting a video screen of any kind. Additionally, it allowed the most current drivers for my video card to work properly. SV From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 00:28:52 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:28:52 -0400 Subject: **RESOLVED** Re: Find ** THANKS EVERYONE, IT WAS FUN. In-Reply-To: <200905121630.13996.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905121630.13996.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200905122028.52357.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Tuesday 12 May 2009 10:30:13 am Nils Kassube wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > > The only part I am not completely confident in doing is to set up the > > OS and applications so that when data is saved it always > > automatically goes to the storage partitions. I don't want the boot > > partition to contain any important savable data that can be placed on > > drives that are not subject to application crashes and loss of data. > > With a separate home partition all your applications will save the data > on that partition because they put the data somewhere in your home > directory (unless you tell them something different). So there is no > extra work necessary. > > > May I ask this? I have never actually lost data due to a broken HDD. > > Are there any built-in warning mechanisms within HDD's that let you > > know when they are about worn out? > > Some disks have the S.M.A.R.T. monitoring festure [1], but I wouldn't > rely on it. > > > Do they fail, or break, without > > warning? > > You never know before if it will fail. Some disks show errors before > failure but it isn't necessarily so. Therefore it is always good to have > backups. > > > How much of a concern should that be? In 20+ years, I have > > never had one break. I have always just replaced them with bigger > > drives. > > Same here, more or less. In ~20 years I had just one disk with problems. > It was from a known to be bad series of Fujitsu disks. The electronics > was faulty after about 2.5 years of operation (but it is working again > now and I still use it for tests). > > > I can never be really sure, but I think this may be the last > > expansion I will ever need for data, so wearing out the drives or > > actual physical failure are what I am facing now. > > You will certainly need bigger disks in the future. When I started > playing with Linux, my 170MB disk was quite big. Nowadays Kubuntu > probably wouldn't even run with 170MB of RAM, let alone disk space. > Think about it, who would have thought about storing many movies on a PC > 10 years ago? There will always be new use cases of more and more disk > space. > > > Nils > > [1] From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 01:04:12 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:04:12 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905122104.12451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> (Trim) > Okay, Steven, good luck. But I think most of us here would not suggest it. I am a bit surprised, I thought mu current choices were as advised. What would you not suggest. > But like what Nils put it so nicely, it is your decision, your computer and > your life. And certainly you do not hurt anybody with your decision. Shoot, I have always been affected by the recommendations of the experts. Until now, I have not used my own ideas much at all. I have been so uninstructed. I may have changed a bit since yesterday, but my new HDD comes tomorrow morning. So here is what my current plan is. Using the new 1TB HDD, I am going to format the drive with 40 or 50gb's as the boot partition. I am going to set swap to 9gb, because of something Sascha said. Then I am going to create a partition for the balance called /home. I am going to set the configuration so that the OS and applications save all data to the /home partition, including email and bookmarks, and anything relating to art programs--all applications that required saved data. Next, I am going to move all important data from my current HDD to the new drive. Then I am going to look for some missing folders that I think may still be on the drive, but that I have lost somehow. Once I am convinced there is nothing worth saving from my current drive, I will format it and name it /backup. That is all it will be used for. As far as the 200gb IDE drive is concerned, I plan to pause until I get more advice on virtual machines. Is there anything wrong with this plan? TIA Steven (Trim) From eamner at yahoo.com Wed May 13 02:33:08 2009 From: eamner at yahoo.com (Eric Marquez) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 19:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <883774.32061.qm@web53308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> @Ric Moore: I just added the "pci=nomsi" option to the grub menu. Let's see what happens. I'll let you know. As for the APM options, I never heard of it before... I'll try to investigate... It should be mentioned that the "freezes" happen even with cold temperature (I live in a VERY hot city, but I have Air Conditioner, which I use every night) :) @Willy Hamra: Yes, I'm using the same hard drive (IDE 30GB) that I used with kubuntu 6.06 (kde3). Never had probles with it. From answer I got in the kubuntu forum long ago, I suspected it could be related to some HD problem, but as I mentioned before, I already ran a fdisk test (from a live cd) and it gave me "0" bad blocks. BY THE WAY: Here you can read my whole post in kubuntuforums (including another test with smartctl), so you can read the complete tragedy and maybe obtain more data that I'd have missed here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3100943.msg169080#msg169080 Greetings, Eric. http://eamner.hispasonicos.com ________________________________ De: "kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com" Para: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Enviado: miércoles, 13 de mayo, 2009 6:30:05 Asunto: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 52, Issue 62 On Mon, 2009-05-13 at 10:58 -0700, Ric Moore wrote: >To question #1 Yes, in the grub menu appended to the kernel line. >To question #2 Should be no diff between the systems, but apparently >there is! Can you tell what different is happening? I think you >mentioned overheating and the fan running full tilt? You do have the >power management stuff installed? acpid and acpid support? apmd?? Here's >the description of apmd: > >"Debian kernels are built with APM support but it is disabled by >default. You need to boot the kernel with the "apm=on" option if you >want to enable the driver. (You may need to add this option to your >lilo command line.) In most cases, users may want to know that there are >newer power >management schemes, like ACPI. ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=mx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g.lip at gmx.com Wed May 13 03:12:56 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:12:56 +0800 Subject: help with adept_manager lock In-Reply-To: <3288dd4d0905121410l698ac7d5n787603af2e3a6eaa@mail.gmail.com> References: <3288dd4d0905121133w44ee0955te7112f246e9d201a@mail.gmail.com> <4A09DB22.6000009@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905121410l698ac7d5n787603af2e3a6eaa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0A3AB8.7080101@gmx.com> Patricia Wilson wrote: > Patricia Wilson wrote: > > When I try to use adept_manager to do the upgrade to 9.04 I get > an error > > message -- Unable to get exclusive lock > > With detail -- > > This usually means that another package management application (like > > apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that > application first. > > > > I had the system go down during a prior attempt to do the upgrade and > > suspect that there may be a lock file somewhere that didn't get > cleaned > > up. Can anyone help me find that/those lockfile(s)? > > > > > > Try > > sudo dpkg --configure -a > > or > > sudo apt-get install -f > > I tried both and am still getting the same error. Have you exited Adept or Synaptic or whatever when you do this? Note: please bottom post,(meaning write your reply below the quotes). I have to rearrange your messages so others can get some sense of the messages. From wilson.pr.gm at gmail.com Wed May 13 04:03:23 2009 From: wilson.pr.gm at gmail.com (Patricia Wilson) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:03:23 -0700 Subject: help with adept_manager lock In-Reply-To: <4A0A3AB8.7080101@gmx.com> References: <3288dd4d0905121133w44ee0955te7112f246e9d201a@mail.gmail.com> <4A09DB22.6000009@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905121410l698ac7d5n787603af2e3a6eaa@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A3AB8.7080101@gmx.com> Message-ID: <3288dd4d0905122103q797396d2vbb267b08ac21e5c0@mail.gmail.com> > > > > Patricia Wilson wrote: > > > When I try to use adept_manager to do the upgrade to 9.04 I get > > an error > > > message -- Unable to get exclusive lock > > > With detail -- > > > This usually means that another package management application > (like > > > apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that > > application first. > > > > > > I had the system go down during a prior attempt to do the upgrade > and > > > suspect that there may be a lock file somewhere that didn't get > > cleaned > > > up. Can anyone help me find that/those lockfile(s)? > > > > > > > > > > Try > > > > sudo dpkg --configure -a > > > > or > > > > sudo apt-get install -f > > > > > > I tried both and am still getting the same error. > > Have you exited Adept or Synaptic or whatever when you do this? > > Note: please bottom post,(meaning write your reply below the quotes). I > have to rearrange your messages so others can get some sense of the > messages. > > Yes, I just tried running both after a reboot and I still get the lock error from adept_manager. I am running adept_manager from the command line and get a lot of messages in the terminal window but none seem relevant to this issue. Also, I am running from gnome not KDE. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g.lip at gmx.com Wed May 13 04:30:01 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:30:01 +0800 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905122104.12451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905122104.12451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A0A4CC9.2080306@gmx.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > (Trim) >> Okay, Steven, good luck. But I think most of us here would not suggest it. > > I am a bit surprised, I thought mu current choices were as advised. What > would you not suggest. What do now finally decide to do can be done automatically by the Jaunty installer. You just need to instruct the installer to create a new home partition. It will automatically create a swap partition, and anything else, based on your computer specs. >> But like what Nils put it so nicely, it is your decision, your computer and >> your life. And certainly you do not hurt anybody with your decision. > > Shoot, I have always been affected by the recommendations of the experts. > Until now, I have not used my own ideas much at all. I have been so > uninstructed. On a lighter note, can you remember Aesop's tale about the man and his son going to town with the mule? Well.. it goes something like this.. Man and son going to town. Son sits on mule. 1st passerby says man should sit on mule. So man sits on mule. 2nd passerby says son should sit on mule. So son sits on mule. 3rd passerby says both should sit on mule. So both sit on mule. 4th passerby says they are cruel to mule. Both should carry mule. So both carry mule. I certainly don't consider myself an expert. There are many things on this post that I am not a bit familiar with. But I do have some experience or have gone through something that other people is asking. And if I can contribute, I will try. It is because I have also learnt a lot from this post myself. I only hope I don't give out advise like the passersby in Aesop's tale. > I may have changed a bit since yesterday, but my new HDD comes tomorrow > morning. So here is what my current plan is. > > Using the new 1TB HDD, I am going to format the drive with 40 or 50gb's as the > boot partition. I am going to set swap to 9gb, because of something Sascha > said. Then I am going to create a partition for the balance called /home. Swap, in not so old days, when RAM's were about 256 MB or less and hard disks were 20 GB or less, it was considered that Swap should be 2x RAM. When RAM was 2 GB, it is deemed enough that 2GB plus a little should be enough. Now you have 8 GB RAM and tons of hard disk space. What is enough? Who cares, you have enough of both. Anyway, Jaunty will figure that out for us. > I am going to set the configuration so that the OS and applications save all > data to the /home partition, including email and bookmarks, and anything > relating to art programs--all applications that required saved data. > > Next, I am going to move all important data from my current HDD to the new > drive. Then I am going to look for some missing folders that I think may > still be on the drive, but that I have lost somehow. Once I am convinced > there is nothing worth saving from my current drive, I will format it and name > it /backup. That is all it will be used for. > > As far as the 200gb IDE drive is concerned, I plan to pause until I get more > advice on virtual machines. Is there anything wrong with this plan? TIA > > Steven > (Trim) > Once again good luck, all the best. Regards, Goh Lip ps: don't drop the mule. From g.lip at gmx.com Wed May 13 04:42:45 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:42:45 +0800 Subject: help with adept_manager lock In-Reply-To: <3288dd4d0905122103q797396d2vbb267b08ac21e5c0@mail.gmail.com> References: <3288dd4d0905121133w44ee0955te7112f246e9d201a@mail.gmail.com> <4A09DB22.6000009@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905121410l698ac7d5n787603af2e3a6eaa@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A3AB8.7080101@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905122103q797396d2vbb267b08ac21e5c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0A4FC5.6040409@gmx.com> Patricia Wilson wrote: > > > Patricia Wilson wrote: > > > When I try to use adept_manager to do the upgrade to 9.04 > I get > > an error > > > message -- Unable to get exclusive lock > > > With detail -- > > > This usually means that another package management > application (like > > > apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that > > application first. > > > > > > I had the system go down during a prior attempt to do the > upgrade and > > > suspect that there may be a lock file somewhere that > didn't get > > cleaned > > > up. Can anyone help me find that/those lockfile(s)? > > > > > > > > > > Try > > > > sudo dpkg --configure -a > > > > or > > > > sudo apt-get install -f > > > > > > I tried both and am still getting the same error. > > Have you exited Adept or Synaptic or whatever when you do this? > > Note: please bottom post,(meaning write your reply below the quotes). I > have to rearrange your messages so others can get some sense of the > messages. > > Yes, I just tried running both after a reboot and I still get the lock > error from adept_manager. I am running adept_manager from the command > line and get a lot of messages in the terminal window but none seem > relevant to this issue. Also, I am running from gnome not KDE. Thanks for bottom posting. When I mentioned exit from Adept or Synaptic, it means don't use the program, close, quit or whatever term you can understand. Don't use adept_manager. Close, quit, exit. Then, on a terminal, console or bash, type "sudo dpkg --configure -a" or "sudo apt-get install -f" without the quotation marks. If you are using Gnome, why are you using Adept? From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 13 05:02:04 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:02:04 +0200 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905121630.13996.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200905130702.04225.kassube@gmx.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > > You never know before if it will fail. Some disks show errors > > before failure but it isn't necessarily so. Therefore it is always > > good to have backups. > > > >> How much of a concern should that be? In 20+ years, I have > >> never had one break. I have always just replaced them with bigger > >> drives. > > > > Same here, more or less. In ~20 years I had just one disk with > > problems. It was from a known to be bad series of Fujitsu disks. > > I'd guess you either keep machines for a shorter time than I do, or > neither of you use laptops (or at least don't travel with them daily, > often on a motorcycle). You guessed right, I wrote about my desktop disks. My only laptop disk is about 2.5 years old now and still alive but I don't travel a lot with it. Nils From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 13 05:51:35 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:51:35 +0200 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905122012.03528.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <8abf83c20905120634m6611cf87q48dcc327a51ce258@mail.gmail.com> <200905122012.03528.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905130751.35761.kassube@gmx.net> Steven Vollom wrote: > This may be impossible, but can a person have data saved to the /home > partition and the backup partition simultaneously? That would keep > my backup current all the time. I don't think there are many programs that can save data at two different places simultaneously. A backup is usually done independently at regular intervals e.g. once a day during the night hours. > Would doing that slow the computer > down? Usually yes. Saving something to disk means waiting for the disk to complete the operation (unless you are saving only tiny bits of data). Saving to two places means waiting twice. Actually it may take less than double the time but you would notice a difference. > Since I have 8gb of RAM, won't that make the duplicated task > manageable? It is not a question of RAM size but waiting for the disk. I would suggest you first setup the new system with all 3 disks in place and we'll talk about your backup policy when the rest is operational. > Would 30gb be enough for a healthy OS plus all ancillary applications > or 40gb or 50gb? 30GB would certainly be enough. Look at your current installed system for a reference. In a terminal type the command sudo du -sh /var /usr and you can see the majority of what is used by the OS now. Nils From wilson.pr.gm at gmail.com Wed May 13 06:19:30 2009 From: wilson.pr.gm at gmail.com (Patricia Wilson) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 23:19:30 -0700 Subject: help with adept_manager lock In-Reply-To: <4A0A4FC5.6040409@gmx.com> References: <3288dd4d0905121133w44ee0955te7112f246e9d201a@mail.gmail.com> <4A09DB22.6000009@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905121410l698ac7d5n787603af2e3a6eaa@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A3AB8.7080101@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905122103q797396d2vbb267b08ac21e5c0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A4FC5.6040409@gmx.com> Message-ID: <3288dd4d0905122319n7d03fe06u200a9ba64b3c971f@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Goh Lip wrote: > Patricia Wilson wrote: > > > > > Patricia Wilson wrote: > > > > When I try to use adept_manager to do the upgrade to 9.04 > > I get > > > an error > > > > message -- Unable to get exclusive lock > > > > With detail -- > > > > This usually means that another package management > > application (like > > > > apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that > > > application first. > > > > > > > > I had the system go down during a prior attempt to do the > > upgrade and > > > > suspect that there may be a lock file somewhere that > > didn't get > > > cleaned > > > > up. Can anyone help me find that/those lockfile(s)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try > > > > > > sudo dpkg --configure -a > > > > > > or > > > > > > sudo apt-get install -f > > > > > > > > > > I tried both and am still getting the same error. > > > > Have you exited Adept or Synaptic or whatever when you do this? > > > > Note: please bottom post,(meaning write your reply below the quotes). > I > > have to rearrange your messages so others can get some sense of the > > messages. > > > > Yes, I just tried running both after a reboot and I still get the lock > > error from adept_manager. I am running adept_manager from the command > > line and get a lot of messages in the terminal window but none seem > > relevant to this issue. Also, I am running from gnome not KDE. > > Thanks for bottom posting. > When I mentioned exit from Adept or Synaptic, it means don't use the > program, close, quit or whatever term you can understand. Don't use > adept_manager. Close, quit, exit. Then, on a terminal, console or bash, > type "sudo dpkg --configure -a" or "sudo apt-get install -f" without > the quotation marks. > > If you are using Gnome, why are you using Adept? > > > > Good question. I was following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04. Here is what I did from a fresh terminal (in a KDE session) after a reboot: Leothon/home/pwilson> sudo dpkg --configure -a Leothon/home/pwilson> sudo apt-get install -f Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Leothon/home/pwilson> Then I opened adept_manager from the KDE menu and selected Fetch Updates. Then when it appeared I selected Version Upgrade. Then after going through a few forms I get the Unable to get exclusive lock error. I very much appreciate the time you are taking with this and I hope I am understanding you correctly. -- Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tuxebi at gmx.de Wed May 13 06:30:51 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:30:51 +0200 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905122104.12451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905122104.12451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: > (Trim) >> Okay, Steven, good luck. But I think most of us here would not suggest it. > > I am a bit surprised, I thought mu current choices were as advised. What > would you not suggest. > >> But like what Nils put it so nicely, it is your decision, your computer and >> your life. And certainly you do not hurt anybody with your decision. > > Shoot, I have always been affected by the recommendations of the experts. > Until now, I have not used my own ideas much at all. I have been so > uninstructed. > > I may have changed a bit since yesterday, but my new HDD comes tomorrow > morning. So here is what my current plan is. > > Using the new 1TB HDD, I am going to format the drive with 40 or 50gb's as the > boot partition. I am going to set swap to 9gb, because of something Sascha > said. Then I am going to create a partition for the balance called /home. > > I am going to set the configuration so that the OS and applications save all > data to the /home partition, including email and bookmarks, and anything > relating to art programs--all applications that required saved data. > > Next, I am going to move all important data from my current HDD to the new > drive. Then I am going to look for some missing folders that I think may > still be on the drive, but that I have lost somehow. Once I am convinced > there is nothing worth saving from my current drive, I will format it and name > it /backup. That is all it will be used for. > > As far as the 200gb IDE drive is concerned, I plan to pause until I get more > advice on virtual machines. Is there anything wrong with this plan? TIA > > Steven > (Trim) > No, as someone said, it is up to you. However, personally I would do it a bit different, if it were my own machine: 1. use the 1 TB drive as you described 2. Transfer data from 500gb drive to 1TB drive 3. move 500 gb drive and 200 mb drive out of the machine 4. move 500 gb drive to external usb enclousure (you might use an external SATA enclosure, if your motherboard supports external SATA connectivity). This will be your backup disk 5. Use 200 mb PATA disk elsewhere. Imho a 200mb PATA disk does not really make sense, when you are on SATA with 1GB. Doing it like this, imho your machine will be way more quiet with one harddisk instead of three making noise and warming up the case. At the same time, your data will be much safer, if your backup is external to your computer. You might possibly store your backup elsewhere in your house or outside your house at a neighbours' site. Just my two €-cents Eberhard From g.lip at gmx.com Wed May 13 06:42:19 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:42:19 +0800 Subject: help with adept_manager lock References: <3288dd4d0905121133w44ee0955te7112f246e9d201a@mail.gmail.com> <4A09DB22.6000009@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905121410l698ac7d5n787603af2e3a6eaa@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A3AB8.7080101@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905122103q797396d2vbb267b08ac21e5c0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A4FC5.6040409@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905122319n7d03fe06u200a9ba64b3c971f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Patricia Wilson wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Goh Lip wrote: > >> Patricia Wilson wrote: >> > >> > > Patricia Wilson wrote: >> > > > When I try to use adept_manager to do the upgrade to 9.04 >> > I get >> > > an error >> > > > message -- Unable to get exclusive lock >> > > > With detail -- >> > > > This usually means that another package management >> > application (like >> > > > apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that >> > > application first. >> > > > >> > > > I had the system go down during a prior attempt to do the >> > upgrade and >> > > > suspect that there may be a lock file somewhere that >> > didn't get >> > > cleaned >> > > > up. Can anyone help me find that/those lockfile(s)? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > Try >> > > >> > > sudo dpkg --configure -a >> > > >> > > or >> > > >> > > sudo apt-get install -f >> > > >> > >> > >> > > I tried both and am still getting the same error. >> > >> > Have you exited Adept or Synaptic or whatever when you do this? >> > >> > Note: please bottom post,(meaning write your reply below the >> > quotes). >> I >> > have to rearrange your messages so others can get some sense of the >> > messages. >> > >> > Yes, I just tried running both after a reboot and I still get the lock >> > error from adept_manager. I am running adept_manager from the command >> > line and get a lot of messages in the terminal window but none seem >> > relevant to this issue. Also, I am running from gnome not KDE. >> >> Thanks for bottom posting. >> When I mentioned exit from Adept or Synaptic, it means don't use the >> program, close, quit or whatever term you can understand. Don't use >> adept_manager. Close, quit, exit. Then, on a terminal, console or bash, >> type "sudo dpkg --configure -a" or "sudo apt-get install -f" without >> the quotation marks. >> >> If you are using Gnome, why are you using Adept? >> >> > >> >> Good question. I was following the instructions at > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04. > Here is what I did from a fresh terminal (in a KDE session) after a > reboot: > > Leothon/home/pwilson> sudo dpkg --configure -a > Leothon/home/pwilson> sudo apt-get install -f > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Leothon/home/pwilson> > > Then I opened adept_manager from the KDE menu and selected Fetch Updates. > Then when it appeared I selected Version Upgrade. Then after going through > a few forms I get the Unable to get exclusive lock error. > > I very much appreciate the time you are taking with this and I hope I am > understanding you correctly. > Good. " 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." is good. WITHOUT opening adept OR Synaptic, at the terminal, type in sudo apt-get update When done...., type in sudo apt-get upgrade I am not sure running Adept in Gnome affects anything. Most of here don't do this. In fact, some here prefer Synaptic to Adept when using KDE. And Kpackage still has some problems. Most here prefer aptitude. Well... whatever works. Regards, Goh Lip It doesn't matter if the cat is black or white, As long as it catches mice. - -Deng XiaoPing From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Wed May 13 07:20:15 2009 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:20:15 +0300 Subject: How to set email client for firefox? In-Reply-To: References: <8abf83c20905120507y664eac68qe05c9acc8480a4f4@mail.gmail.com> <8abf83c20905120645pde16389wf51789a0d931006b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40905130020q58fce27dr4c77023d58574e7c@mail.gmail.com> On 13/05/2009, marc wrote: > Sascha Güthling said: > > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:15 AM, marc wrote: > >> Sascha Güthling twice said the following, but once in HTML, which has > >> been deleted: > >> > >>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:21 AM, marc wrote: > >>> > >>>> In Jaunty, when I click a mailto url, the wrong email client is used. > >>>> System settings/Default applications is set to the correct email > >>>> preference, but clearly this is being ignored. > >>>> > >>>> It's also possible to set the email client in FF via > >>>> Options/Prefs/Apps/ mailto. However, the only entries on there are > >>>> evolution and Yahoo mail! > >>>> > >>>> First, I think this is a bug, so will raise it, but any idea how do > >>>> you change the "default" applications in FF Pref/Apps? > >>> > >>> There is no bug. At least I don't think it is. Firefox is a multi > >>> platform browser and if you think about the sheer amount of Linux > >>> distros alone, you see where the problem lays. Since every distro has > >>> its own preferred email client (and we don't even speak about the user > >>> preferences) it is almost impossible to satisfy every user. > >> > >> Yup, yup, but setting the default mailto to evolution is weird, > >> especially _without_ the option to change the default. I grep'd > >> ~/.mozilla and a few other places, and examined about:config, but it's > >> not to be found. I think that's a bug. > >> > > Are you in Ubuntu? > > Who cares? Seriously! All my machines have Ubuntu and Kubuntu on them and > often a few others. In this case I am using Kubuntu. Kubuntu and Ubuntu, > et al should be able to deal with that. Always has done in the past. > > > Evolution is afaik the standard for Ubuntu and > > probably set as this by Ubuntu and not by Firefox. There is a branding > > package called ubufox that does that I think. In my Firefox installation > > the standard was set to "Always ask" > > Hmm Okay. I'll check Ubuntu tomorrow, but I suspect that Ubuntu has > hijacked kde again. > > Sorry to sound negative, but I'm beginning to get a bad feeling about > Ubuntu and the Shuttleworth project. > > Thanks for the info. > but afterall, firfox is a GTK application, and ubuntu GNOME is sort of the default DE for ubuntu, and there exists one package of firefox, there is no firefox-kde or something. so the most reasonable choice for a mail client would be a friendly GTK application existing in GNOME, and that is evolution. for us KDE users, they assume we're gonna use konqueror for browsing ;-) -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From g.lip at gmx.com Wed May 13 07:44:40 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:44:40 +0800 Subject: help with adept_manager lock In-Reply-To: References: <3288dd4d0905121133w44ee0955te7112f246e9d201a@mail.gmail.com> <4A09DB22.6000009@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905121410l698ac7d5n787603af2e3a6eaa@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A3AB8.7080101@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905122103q797396d2vbb267b08ac21e5c0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A4FC5.6040409@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905122319n7d03fe06u200a9ba64b3c971f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0A7A68.10700@gmx.com> Goh Lip wrote: > Patricia Wilson wrote: > >> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Goh Lip wrote: >> >>> Patricia Wilson wrote: >>>> > Patricia Wilson wrote: >>>> > > When I try to use adept_manager to do the upgrade to 9.04 >>>> I get >>>> > an error >>>> > > message -- Unable to get exclusive lock >>>> > > With detail -- >>>> > > This usually means that another package management >>>> application (like >>>> > > apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that >>>> > application first. >>>> > > >>>> > > I had the system go down during a prior attempt to do the >>>> upgrade and >>>> > > suspect that there may be a lock file somewhere that >>>> didn't get >>>> > cleaned >>>> > > up. Can anyone help me find that/those lockfile(s)? >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > Try >>>> > >>>> > sudo dpkg --configure -a >>>> > >>>> > or >>>> > >>>> > sudo apt-get install -f >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> > I tried both and am still getting the same error. >>>> >>>> Have you exited Adept or Synaptic or whatever when you do this? >>>> >>>> Note: please bottom post,(meaning write your reply below the >>>> quotes). >>> I >>>> have to rearrange your messages so others can get some sense of the >>>> messages. >>>> >>>> Yes, I just tried running both after a reboot and I still get the lock >>>> error from adept_manager. I am running adept_manager from the command >>>> line and get a lot of messages in the terminal window but none seem >>>> relevant to this issue. Also, I am running from gnome not KDE. >>> Thanks for bottom posting. >>> When I mentioned exit from Adept or Synaptic, it means don't use the >>> program, close, quit or whatever term you can understand. Don't use >>> adept_manager. Close, quit, exit. Then, on a terminal, console or bash, >>> type "sudo dpkg --configure -a" or "sudo apt-get install -f" without >>> the quotation marks. >>> >>> If you are using Gnome, why are you using Adept? >>> >>> >>> Good question. I was following the instructions at >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04. >> Here is what I did from a fresh terminal (in a KDE session) after a >> reboot: >> >> Leothon/home/pwilson> sudo dpkg --configure -a >> Leothon/home/pwilson> sudo apt-get install -f >> Reading package lists... Done >> Building dependency tree >> Reading state information... Done >> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. >> Leothon/home/pwilson> >> >> Then I opened adept_manager from the KDE menu and selected Fetch Updates. >> Then when it appeared I selected Version Upgrade. Then after going through >> a few forms I get the Unable to get exclusive lock error. >> >> I very much appreciate the time you are taking with this and I hope I am >> understanding you correctly. >> > > > Good. " 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." is > good. WITHOUT opening adept OR Synaptic, at the terminal, type in > sudo apt-get update > > When done...., type in > sudo apt-get upgrade > > I am not sure running Adept in Gnome affects anything. Most of here don't do > this. In fact, some here prefer Synaptic to Adept when using KDE. And > Kpackage still has some problems. Most here prefer aptitude. > Well... whatever works. > > Regards, > Goh Lip > > It doesn't matter if the cat is black or white, > As long as it catches mice. > - -Deng XiaoPing Patricia, sometimes too little information given is bad. We work based on some common assumptions. If you have uncommon situations, please state right at the beginning, like using Gnome instead of KDE, upgrading from 8.04 instead of 8.10. Are you trying to upgrade to Kubuntu 9.04 while still on the Ubuntu desktop? Are you by chance using KDE3.5 instead of KDE4 in your 8.04? And why upgrade from the Gnome desktop? If any of the above is true, you may run into unnecessary problems trying to upgrade to Kubuntu 9.04. I have often found that it is simpler, cleaner and faster to do a fresh reinstall. To me, installing Kubuntu is the easiest installation compared to many other OS's, Windows or other Linux distro's. Of course, there are some experts who can work around the many issues that would crop up if you choose to upgrade from the KDE3.5 Hardy or from Gnome desktop. But I am not one of them. If this is the case, you might want to do a fresh reinstall. Please back up your /home first. That is all you need to back up. note: if you still want to try to upgrade from Gnome 8.04 to Kubuntu 9.04, try to do this .... Uninstall kubuntu -desktop, purge. (assuming you are running KDE3.5) At ubuntu -desktop, upgrade to ubuntu 9.04. (don't use adept, it won't be there) When you have a running Ubuntu 9.04, (then and only then) install kubuntu-desktop. Regards, Goh Lip From gmane at auxbuss.com Wed May 13 08:41:20 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? References: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Mark Greenwood said: > I will probably raise this as a bug, but X confuses the living goo out > of me so I'd like to probe the collective wisdom here first.. > > On my Asus eee box, X has inexplicably decided I have 2 displays > attached, despite there only being one connector for a monitor, and that > being connected to my flatscreen TV's VGA port. Very odd. Anyway it > seems that because it thinks I have 2 screens it has also enabled the > horror that is Xinerama and this is causing mythtv no small amount of > confusion. Yup, it seem that if you have multiple video cards and/or multiple monitors X gets very confused. I'm having problems myself, and it's looking like X is the culprit. > Now that we have this new improved X which ignores xorg.conf, how can I > disable xinerama? Or how can I inform it politely that I only have one > screen? I don't believe that X ignores xorg.conf. If you make changes to xorg.conf, restart X, then examine the logs, you should see you're additions being actioned. There does seem to be quite a bit of confusion, though, about what's going on. -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Wed May 13 08:45:34 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: wireless card detection problem References: <200905100638.40482.pkaplan@comcast.net> Message-ID: Paul Kaplan said: > I have a D-Link DWL-G650 wireless card that has worked fine thru 8.10. > It was always recognized as ath0 > > I can't seem to get 9.04 to see it. I'm using wicd to manage my > connection and when I set preferences to have it manage ath0 as the > wireless connection, no networks are seen. > > How do I get the system to see the card? Paul Please post result of: $ iwconfig and: $ iwconfig -v -- Best, Marc From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Wed May 13 08:58:03 2009 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 04:58:03 -0400 Subject: wireless card detection problem In-Reply-To: References: <200905100638.40482.pkaplan@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200905130458.03431.pkaplan1@comcast.net> On Wednesday 13 May 2009 04:45 marc wrote: > Paul Kaplan said: > > I have a D-Link DWL-G650 wireless card that has worked fine thru 8.10. > > It was always recognized as ath0 > > > > I can't seem to get 9.04 to see it. I'm using wicd to manage my > > connection and when I set preferences to have it manage ath0 as the > > wireless connection, no networks are seen. > > > > How do I get the system to see the card? Paul > > Please post result of: > > $ iwconfig > > and: > > $ iwconfig -v > > -- > Best, > Marc Turns out *buntu changed ath0 to wlan0 and I had to redirect network manager to the new connection name From fatgerman at ntlworld.com Wed May 13 10:34:02 2009 From: fatgerman at ntlworld.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:34:02 +0100 Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? In-Reply-To: References: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <200905131134.02483.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> On Wednesday 13 May 2009 09:41:20 marc wrote: > Mark Greenwood said: > > > I will probably raise this as a bug, but X confuses the living goo out > > of me so I'd like to probe the collective wisdom here first.. > > > > On my Asus eee box, X has inexplicably decided I have 2 displays > > attached, despite there only being one connector for a monitor, and that > > being connected to my flatscreen TV's VGA port. Very odd. Anyway it > > seems that because it thinks I have 2 screens it has also enabled the > > horror that is Xinerama and this is causing mythtv no small amount of > > confusion. > > Yup, it seem that if you have multiple video cards and/or multiple > monitors X gets very confused. I'm having problems myself, and it's > looking like X is the culprit. That's the thing - I *don't* have multiple video cards, or multiple monitors. And yet X thinks I do. It actually appears to be running 2 displays on the same video card and using the same monitor! > > > Now that we have this new improved X which ignores xorg.conf, how can I > > disable xinerama? Or how can I inform it politely that I only have one > > screen? > > I don't believe that X ignores xorg.conf. If you make changes to > xorg.conf, restart X, then examine the logs, you should see you're > additions being actioned. It does ignore some things. You can still use some options, but other are completely ignored (ModeLine, for instance, appears not to do anything any more - which is annoying because that's how I got my 50Hz to work last time). Of course, this being X11, there is no (intelligible) documentation that I can find. Ho Hum. > > There does seem to be quite a bit of confusion, though, about what's > going on. > > -- > Best, > Marc > > From tanghus at gmail.com Wed May 13 10:35:14 2009 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:35:14 +0200 Subject: How to set email client for firefox? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905131235.15557.tanghus@gmail.com> On Tuesday 12 May 2009 13:21:16 marc wrote: > In Jaunty, when I click a mailto url, the wrong email client is used. > System settings/Default applications is set to the correct email > preference, but clearly this is being ignored. > > It's also possible to set the email client in FF via Options/Prefs/Apps/ > mailto. However, the only entries on there are evolution and Yahoo mail! > > First, I think this is a bug, so will raise it, but any idea how do you > change the "default" applications in FF Pref/Apps? > > -- Found these links: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-firefox-for-kmail.html http://geekconnection.pbworks.com/How+to+set+the+Default+Email+Client+in+Firefox http://kb.mozillazine.org/Default_mail_client#Linux_-_KDE http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/SuSE/2005-12/msg01562.html http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60610 -- Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Til uvedkommende, der læser med: Der er ingen grund til at læse min mail. Jeg har intet at gøre med FARC, al-Jihad, al-Qaida, Hamas, Hizb al-Mujahidin eller ETA. Jeg har aldrig gjort Zakat, går ikke ind for Istishad, har ikke lavet en bilbombe eller kernevåben og jeg ved dårligt nok, hvad Al Manar og бомба betyder. 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URL: From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Wed May 13 10:43:53 2009 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:43:53 +0300 Subject: help with adept_manager lock In-Reply-To: <4A0A7A68.10700@gmx.com> References: <3288dd4d0905121133w44ee0955te7112f246e9d201a@mail.gmail.com> <4A09DB22.6000009@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905121410l698ac7d5n787603af2e3a6eaa@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A3AB8.7080101@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905122103q797396d2vbb267b08ac21e5c0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A4FC5.6040409@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905122319n7d03fe06u200a9ba64b3c971f@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A7A68.10700@gmx.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40905130343g5f3a569ft1fb3a4cd64a43c5a@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/13 Goh Lip : > Goh Lip wrote: >> Patricia Wilson wrote: >> >>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Goh Lip wrote: >>> >>>> Patricia Wilson wrote: >>>>>      >     Patricia Wilson wrote: >>>>>      >      > When I try to use adept_manager to do the upgrade to 9.04 >>>>>     I get >>>>>      >     an error >>>>>      >      > message -- Unable to get exclusive lock >>>>>      >      > With detail -- >>>>>      >      > This usually means that another package management >>>>>     application (like >>>>>      >      > apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that >>>>>      >     application first. >>>>>      >      > >>>>>      >      > I had the system go down during a prior attempt to do the >>>>>     upgrade and >>>>>      >      > suspect that there may be a lock file somewhere that >>>>>     didn't get >>>>>      >     cleaned >>>>>      >      > up. Can anyone help me find that/those  lockfile(s)? >>>>>      >      > >>>>>      >      > >>>>>      > >>>>>      >     Try >>>>>      > >>>>>      >     sudo dpkg --configure -a >>>>>      > >>>>>      >     or >>>>>      > >>>>>      >     sudo apt-get install -f >>>>>      > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>      > I tried both and am still getting the same error. >>>>> >>>>>     Have you exited Adept or Synaptic or whatever when you do this? >>>>> >>>>>     Note: please bottom post,(meaning write your reply below the >>>>>     quotes). >>>> I >>>>>     have to rearrange your messages so others can get some sense of the >>>>>     messages. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, I just tried running both after a reboot and I still get the lock >>>>> error from adept_manager. I am running adept_manager from the command >>>>> line and get a lot of messages in  the terminal window but none seem >>>>> relevant to this issue. Also, I am running from gnome not KDE. >>>> Thanks for bottom posting. >>>> When I mentioned exit from Adept or Synaptic, it means don't use the >>>> program, close, quit or whatever term you can understand. Don't use >>>> adept_manager. Close, quit, exit. Then, on a terminal, console or bash, >>>> type "sudo dpkg --configure -a" or "sudo apt-get install -f"  without >>>> the quotation marks. >>>> >>>> If you are using Gnome, why are you using Adept? >>>> >>>> >>>> Good question. I was following the instructions at >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04. >>>  Here is what I did from a fresh terminal (in a KDE session) after a >>>  reboot: >>> >>> Leothon/home/pwilson> sudo dpkg --configure -a >>> Leothon/home/pwilson> sudo apt-get install -f >>> Reading package lists... Done >>> Building dependency tree >>> Reading state information... Done >>> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. >>> Leothon/home/pwilson> >>> >>> Then I opened adept_manager from the KDE menu and selected Fetch Updates. >>> Then when it appeared I selected Version Upgrade. Then after going through >>> a few forms I get the Unable to get exclusive lock error. >>> >>> I very much appreciate the time you are taking with this and I hope I am >>> understanding you correctly. >>> >> >> >> Good. " 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." is >> good. WITHOUT opening adept OR Synaptic, at the terminal, type in >> sudo apt-get update >> >> When done...., type in >> sudo apt-get upgrade >> >> I am not sure running Adept in Gnome affects anything. Most of here don't do >> this. In fact, some here prefer Synaptic to Adept when using KDE. And >> Kpackage still has some problems. Most here prefer aptitude. >> Well... whatever works. >> >> Regards, >> Goh Lip >> >> It doesn't matter if the cat is black or white, >> As long as it catches mice. >>            -  -Deng XiaoPing > > > Patricia, sometimes too little information given is bad. We work based > on some common assumptions. If you have uncommon situations, please > state right at the beginning, like using Gnome instead of KDE, upgrading >  from 8.04 instead of 8.10. Are you trying to upgrade to Kubuntu 9.04 > while still on the Ubuntu desktop? Are you by chance using KDE3.5 > instead of KDE4 in your 8.04? And why upgrade from the Gnome desktop? > > If any of the above is true, you may run into unnecessary problems > trying to upgrade to Kubuntu 9.04. > > I have often found that it is simpler, cleaner and faster to do a fresh > reinstall. To me, installing Kubuntu is the easiest installation > compared to many other OS's, Windows or other Linux distro's. > > Of course, there are some experts who can work around the many issues > that would crop up if you choose to upgrade from the KDE3.5  Hardy or > from Gnome desktop. But I am not one of them. > > If this is the case, you might want to do a fresh reinstall. > Please back up your /home first. That is all you need to back up. > > > > note: if you still want to try to upgrade from Gnome 8.04 to Kubuntu > 9.04, try to do this .... > > Uninstall kubuntu -desktop, purge. (assuming you are running KDE3.5) > At ubuntu -desktop, upgrade to ubuntu 9.04. (don't use adept, it won't > be there) > When you have a running Ubuntu 9.04, (then and only then) install > kubuntu-desktop. > > Regards, > Goh Lip > i think there's no problem at all for upgrading from GNOME. it's one ystsem after all, she has 2 DEs and she wants both of them i'll assume, she might even have personalisations in both that she don't want lost. when it comes to adept, that might be a problem. even though i used adept and it worked perfectly for my hardy->intrepid upgrade in the past, it still might cause trouble with weird cases, and for random reasons. IMHO synaptic is far superior, and since you're in GNOME that's another reason for you to use it. or if you prefer, the update-manager program, which you can use in a shell. -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Wed May 13 10:48:35 2009 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:48:35 +0300 Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? In-Reply-To: References: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40905130348w5d587185xe088b444b01e864a@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/13 marc : > Mark Greenwood said: > >> I will probably raise this as a bug, but X confuses the living goo out >> of me so I'd like to probe the collective wisdom here first.. >> >> On my Asus eee box, X has inexplicably decided I have 2 displays >> attached, despite there only being one connector for a monitor, and that >> being connected to my flatscreen TV's VGA port. Very odd. Anyway it >> seems that because it thinks I have 2 screens it has also enabled the >> horror that is Xinerama and this is causing mythtv no small amount of >> confusion. > > Yup, it seem that if you have multiple video cards and/or multiple > monitors X gets very confused. I'm having problems myself, and it's > looking like X is the culprit. > >> Now that we have this new improved X which ignores xorg.conf, how can I >> disable xinerama? Or how can I inform it politely that I only have one >> screen? > > I don't believe that X ignores xorg.conf. If you make changes to > xorg.conf, restart X, then examine the logs, you should see you're > additions being actioned. > > There does seem to be quite a bit of confusion, though, about what's > going on. > yup, i've had enough of all this confusion about the bullet proof X. X still DOES read xorg.conf, and still DOES apply all the graphical gibberish we throw in it. i have written my xorg.conf for every release of kubuntu from the days of gutsy, and always will. the new bullet proof X is just that it can run, autoconfigure itself, and work properly even if there is no xorg.conf at all, that's the whole story. once settings exist, autoconfiguration stops, and it reads the file. as for xinerama, i'm sorry, but i never used it, or have any idea what properties/options it has that can be put in xorg.conf to control it. -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Wed May 13 10:54:50 2009 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy Hamra) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:54:50 +0300 Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? In-Reply-To: <200905131134.02483.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> References: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <200905131134.02483.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <15edeae40905130354r66db8616h631b0600658c1663@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/13 Mark Greenwood : > On Wednesday 13 May 2009 09:41:20 marc wrote: >> Mark Greenwood said: >> >> > I will probably raise this as a bug, but X confuses the living goo out >> > of me so I'd like to probe the collective wisdom here first.. >> > >> > On my Asus eee box, X has inexplicably decided I have 2 displays >> > attached, despite there only being one connector for a monitor, and that >> > being connected to my flatscreen TV's VGA port. Very odd. Anyway it >> > seems that because it thinks I have 2 screens it has also enabled the >> > horror that is Xinerama and this is causing mythtv no small amount of >> > confusion. >> >> Yup, it seem that if you have multiple video cards and/or multiple >> monitors X gets very confused. I'm having problems myself, and it's >> looking like X is the culprit. > > That's the thing - I *don't* have multiple video cards, or multiple monitors. And yet X thinks I do. It actually appears to be running 2 displays on the same video card and using the same monitor! > >> >> > Now that we have this new improved X which ignores xorg.conf, how can I >> > disable xinerama? Or how can I inform it politely that I only have one >> > screen? >> >> I don't believe that X ignores xorg.conf. If you make changes to >> xorg.conf, restart X, then examine the logs, you should see you're >> additions being actioned. > > It does ignore some things. You can still use some options, but other are completely ignored (ModeLine, for instance, appears not to do anything any more - which is annoying because that's how I got my 50Hz to work last time). Of course, this being X11, there is no (intelligible) documentation that I can find. Ho Hum. > uhm, this doesn't happen to me. screen resolutions and refresh rates that *I* specify in my xorg.conf are what appear available as valid settings. my computer gets attached to some weird monitors at times, and i can't afford having it run on the same high refresh rates i use at home, so i have many defined, and no refresh rate above 60 Hz available for resolutions higher than 1152, and all is respected by X. -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. From g.lip at gmx.com Wed May 13 11:12:37 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:12:37 +0800 Subject: help with adept_manager lock In-Reply-To: <15edeae40905130343g5f3a569ft1fb3a4cd64a43c5a@mail.gmail.com> References: <3288dd4d0905121133w44ee0955te7112f246e9d201a@mail.gmail.com> <4A09DB22.6000009@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905121410l698ac7d5n787603af2e3a6eaa@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A3AB8.7080101@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905122103q797396d2vbb267b08ac21e5c0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A4FC5.6040409@gmx.com> <3288dd4d0905122319n7d03fe06u200a9ba64b3c971f@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A7A68.10700@gmx.com> <15edeae40905130343g5f3a569ft1fb3a4cd64a43c5a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0AAB25.2060006@gmx.com> Willy Hamra wrote: > 2009/5/13 Goh Lip : >> Goh Lip wrote: >>> Patricia Wilson wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Goh Lip wrote: >>>> >>>>> Patricia Wilson wrote: >>>>>> > Patricia Wilson wrote: >>>>>> > > When I try to use adept_manager to do the upgrade to 9.04 >>>>>> I get >>>>>> > an error >>>>>> > > message -- Unable to get exclusive lock >>>>>> > > With detail -- >>>>>> > > This usually means that another package management >>>>>> application (like >>>>>> > > apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that >>>>>> > application first. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > I had the system go down during a prior attempt to do the >>>>>> upgrade and >>>>>> > > suspect that there may be a lock file somewhere that >>>>>> didn't get >>>>>> > cleaned >>>>>> > > up. Can anyone help me find that/those lockfile(s)? >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Try >>>>>> > >>>>>> > sudo dpkg --configure -a >>>>>> > >>>>>> > or >>>>>> > >>>>>> > sudo apt-get install -f >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > I tried both and am still getting the same error. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you exited Adept or Synaptic or whatever when you do this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Note: please bottom post,(meaning write your reply below the >>>>>> quotes). >>>>> I >>>>>> have to rearrange your messages so others can get some sense of the >>>>>> messages. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I just tried running both after a reboot and I still get the lock >>>>>> error from adept_manager. I am running adept_manager from the command >>>>>> line and get a lot of messages in the terminal window but none seem >>>>>> relevant to this issue. Also, I am running from gnome not KDE. >>>>> Thanks for bottom posting. >>>>> When I mentioned exit from Adept or Synaptic, it means don't use the >>>>> program, close, quit or whatever term you can understand. Don't use >>>>> adept_manager. Close, quit, exit. Then, on a terminal, console or bash, >>>>> type "sudo dpkg --configure -a" or "sudo apt-get install -f" without >>>>> the quotation marks. >>>>> >>>>> If you are using Gnome, why are you using Adept? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Good question. I was following the instructions at >>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04. >>>> Here is what I did from a fresh terminal (in a KDE session) after a >>>> reboot: >>>> >>>> Leothon/home/pwilson> sudo dpkg --configure -a >>>> Leothon/home/pwilson> sudo apt-get install -f >>>> Reading package lists... Done >>>> Building dependency tree >>>> Reading state information... Done >>>> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. >>>> Leothon/home/pwilson> >>>> >>>> Then I opened adept_manager from the KDE menu and selected Fetch Updates. >>>> Then when it appeared I selected Version Upgrade. Then after going through >>>> a few forms I get the Unable to get exclusive lock error. >>>> >>>> I very much appreciate the time you are taking with this and I hope I am >>>> understanding you correctly. >>>> >>> >>> Good. " 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." is >>> good. WITHOUT opening adept OR Synaptic, at the terminal, type in >>> sudo apt-get update >>> >>> When done...., type in >>> sudo apt-get upgrade >>> >>> I am not sure running Adept in Gnome affects anything. Most of here don't do >>> this. In fact, some here prefer Synaptic to Adept when using KDE. And >>> Kpackage still has some problems. Most here prefer aptitude. >>> Well... whatever works. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Goh Lip >>> >>> It doesn't matter if the cat is black or white, >>> As long as it catches mice. >>> - -Deng XiaoPing >> >> Patricia, sometimes too little information given is bad. We work based >> on some common assumptions. If you have uncommon situations, please >> state right at the beginning, like using Gnome instead of KDE, upgrading >> from 8.04 instead of 8.10. Are you trying to upgrade to Kubuntu 9.04 >> while still on the Ubuntu desktop? Are you by chance using KDE3.5 >> instead of KDE4 in your 8.04? And why upgrade from the Gnome desktop? >> >> If any of the above is true, you may run into unnecessary problems >> trying to upgrade to Kubuntu 9.04. >> >> I have often found that it is simpler, cleaner and faster to do a fresh >> reinstall. To me, installing Kubuntu is the easiest installation >> compared to many other OS's, Windows or other Linux distro's. >> >> Of course, there are some experts who can work around the many issues >> that would crop up if you choose to upgrade from the KDE3.5 Hardy or >> from Gnome desktop. But I am not one of them. >> >> If this is the case, you might want to do a fresh reinstall. >> Please back up your /home first. That is all you need to back up. >> >> >> >> note: if you still want to try to upgrade from Gnome 8.04 to Kubuntu >> 9.04, try to do this .... >> >> Uninstall kubuntu -desktop, purge. (assuming you are running KDE3.5) >> At ubuntu -desktop, upgrade to ubuntu 9.04. (don't use adept, it won't >> be there) >> When you have a running Ubuntu 9.04, (then and only then) install >> kubuntu-desktop. >> >> Regards, >> Goh Lip >> > > i think there's no problem at all for upgrading from GNOME. it's one > ystsem after all, she has 2 DEs and she wants both of them i'll > assume, she might even have personalisations in both that she don't > want lost. when it comes to adept, that might be a problem. even > though i used adept and it worked perfectly for my hardy->intrepid > upgrade in the past, it still might cause trouble with weird cases, > and for random reasons. IMHO synaptic is far superior, and since > you're in GNOME that's another reason for you to use it. or if you > prefer, the update-manager program, which you can use in a shell. > > Willy, thanks for helping out here. I am not at all sure what you suggest here might work. But I guess that there is no harm in trying out. As for personalizations, copying the hidden files to the new reinstalled home is all it takes. Taking one example, copying .mozilla will get you back to all your bookmarks, add-ons etc. .mozilla-thunderbird will get you all your messages and settings too. I could go on. And getting applications will be easy if you get a copy of the var/cache/apt/archives into a repository add-cdrom before reinstallation. And, if you don't touch the /home partition, the copying and backups is moot (with certain caveats, .kde is a touch trickier). Kubuntu just rocks. Anyway, glad you jump in. Thanks. Regards, Goh Lip Better a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. - Chinese saying From vonhagen at vonhagen.org Wed May 13 11:36:24 2009 From: vonhagen at vonhagen.org (William von Hagen) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:36:24 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Covered in Ubuntu Book Message-ID: <1242214584.7523.37.camel@ubuntu> The "Ubuntu 8.10 Bible" discusses Kubuntu in detail, both the KDE 3 and KDE 4-based versions. It also discusses KDE applications, as you might hope, but the discussion of these apps currently focuses on the KDE 3 versions, because these were more stable and "standard" at the time that the book was written. KDE 4-specific apps are also discussed. The book also, of course, covers the standard Ubuntu GNOME stuff. The book is over 1100 pages long, and includes 14 extra chapters on one of the two CDs that come with it. Though some will view this as a shameless plug (since I am the author of this book), I'm posting this message because it's time that Kubuntu got some love, and because I wanted to make sure that Kubuntu users knew that such a resource for a great distribution existed. Adding this content was inspired by mail that I received from people on this list (among others), and though I realize the irony of an 8.10 book coming out recently, I will try to type faster in the future. Updates will focus on KDE 4, since we all know that it is indeed the future. Comments appreciated, flames to /dev/null. Bill From gmane at auxbuss.com Wed May 13 12:46:32 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? References: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <15edeae40905130348w5d587185xe088b444b01e864a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Willy Hamra said: > yup, i've had enough of all this confusion about the bullet proof X. X > still DOES read xorg.conf, and still DOES apply all the graphical > gibberish we throw in it. i have written my xorg.conf for every release > of kubuntu from the days of gutsy, and always will. Yes, my xorg.conf seems to work okay. > the new bullet proof > X is just that it can run, autoconfigure itself, and work properly even > if there is no xorg.conf at all, that's the whole story. once settings > exist, autoconfiguration stops, and it reads the file. I think the problem is that X isn't generating an xorg.conf from autoconfigure. I also think that this is a big mistake, as how the heck do you know what it's doing and thus how to fix things? -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Wed May 13 12:48:25 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Kubuntu Covered in Ubuntu Book References: <1242214584.7523.37.camel@ubuntu> Message-ID: William von Hagen said: > The "Ubuntu 8.10 Bible" discusses Kubuntu in detail, both the KDE 3 and > KDE 4-based versions. It also discusses KDE applications, as you might > hope, but the discussion of these apps currently focuses on the KDE 3 > versions, because these were more stable and "standard" at the time that > the book was written. KDE 4-specific apps are also discussed. The book > also, of course, covers the standard Ubuntu GNOME stuff. The book is > over 1100 pages long, and includes 14 extra chapters on one of the two > CDs that come with it. > > Though some will view this as a shameless plug (since I am the author of > this book), I'm posting this message because it's time that Kubuntu got > some love, and because I wanted to make sure that Kubuntu users knew > that such a resource for a great distribution existed. Adding this > content was inspired by mail that I received from people on this list > (among others), and though I realize the irony of an 8.10 book coming > out recently, I will try to type faster in the future. Updates will > focus on KDE 4, since we all know that it is indeed the future. > > Comments appreciated, flames to /dev/null. Well done, Bill. I've written a few books, so I understand the pain you went through :-) -- Best, Marc From guethling at googlemail.com Wed May 13 13:01:42 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:01:42 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905122012.03528.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905112321.40679.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <8abf83c20905120634m6611cf87q48dcc327a51ce258@mail.gmail.com> <200905122012.03528.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <8abf83c20905130601na7636e8ue0df103f3fbc90be@mail.gmail.com> This is only a reply to this specific mail, none to the ones that followed afterwards, since it slowly gets confusing with all the snipping and answering in between. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Steven Vollom wrote: > (Trim) >> Here a short explanation how that works (since I think you did not yet >> FULLY understand what you are going to do, no offense, correct me if >> I'm wrong): > > None taken, but one of the most wonderful of situations has happened, I really > believe I completely understand and can do the partitioning, I was a bit > confused how to get data going directly to the /home partition, but later in > your email I think you explained it well enough for me to execute your > instruction. Good :) > > This may be impossible, but can a person have data saved to the /home > partition and the backup partition simultaneously?  That would keep my backup > current all the time.  Would doing that slow the computer down?  Since I have > 8gb of RAM, won't that make the duplicated task manageable? > (Trim) As said in a different answer already, that is definitely not easy if not impossible. I can only follow the other adviser and suggest we deal with the backup later when everything else works. > >> Linux has the very cool feature, that you can mount a partition in any >> folder on another partition. Usually partitions are mounted in >> /mnt/PutInANameHere. Removable media are mounted automatically in >> /media/... The cool thing about the possibility to mount a partition >> in any folder is, that you can have data on different partitions or >> even hdds without having to change your or the system behavior. > > This is exactly what I want to accomplish, I believe.  About 3 years ago, when > I first used Linux, I was instructed to mount all my partitions except swap and > boot using /media/Drive Identity.  It has been a major cause of problems ever > since.  I am hoping that most of my problems will disappear when I use proper > mounting points for my partitions. > (Trim) >> I guess you get the message, by mounting something >> elsewhere you can move the data logically without moving it >> physically. > > This statement confuses me.  Isn't the data physically installed where I > direct it? Kinda :) Yes, data of course is physically stored where you direct it to. But what I wanted to show you is, that by mounting a disk (with data) under a different folder, you can move the data (that stays physically on the disk) to a different place in your file system without physically moving it on the disk aka copying/moving it. Example: We assume you have a system running and add a new disk with one partition to it. You mount that disk under /mnt/DISK1. Now you save a large video file to that partition. When you want to watch the video you go to /mnt/DISK1 and click on the file. Now you decide you want to save all your videos on that partition but don't want to have to go to /mnt/DISK1 all the time. You unmount the disk and mount it at a different place in the file system, let's say /home/Steven/videos. What happened is, that the video file was always on the disk/partition but now it suddenly appears in your home folder under videos but not under /mnt/DISK1 anymore. You didn't copy/move it on the disk and still, it is somewhere else in the file system now. That is the cool thing about it. >> Also you can use the same /Steven folder in a different Linux >> installation. You could have any number of systems on different >> partitions and mount your home partition in each one under /home and >> would see the folder /Steven in each one of them. > > ...so data automatically saved while using the virtual machines is stored in > the same folder?  I am putting so much in the way of new thinking in right > now, I want to confirm this, however, is there an easy way to identify the > saved material from each virtual box so that when reviewing data from one > particular OS, it will be easy to identify its data from the other OS's? > Would it be like /home/steven/virtual 1/........../virtual 2/.......... > /virtual 3 etc?  This is where my plan got a bit fuzzy, and I thought I would > need help.  Additionally, will the other applications, like Kmail and > Konqueror and Gimp, for example automatically save to the /home/steven mount? I was not talking about virtual machines here. I meant, that if you install a different linux parallel to your main system it could use the same home partition by just mounting it under /home. This was meant as another example for the advances of mounting and having your data in a different partition from the system. > > That was an important part of my plan.  I want all application's saved data to > be automatically saved safely in storage, not on the boot partition.  I don't > really know, but my impressions is that much of that kind of data is located > on the boot partition under root.  If so, is it possible to have such data > saved on the same partition all other saved data is saved?  If so, will this > slow the computer down?  Do I have to create duplicate files and configure the > boot partition to do this, or is this too much for my computer to handle with > current technology.  My vision of what I want to do, saw this as a great way > to retain all information, I might have to make special considerations for, > when installing a new OS.  For example moving all my email records and address > book, bookmarks and the such.  Plus anything else I may have forgotten that > fits the criteria. Almost all application in the linux world assume that you store your personal data in your home folder. In fact, on a server system that is probably the only place you have writing privileges. So by having an extra home partition you already keep your personal data separated from the system data. If your system somehow breaks or if you just want to install a different one you can simply mount this partition as your home partition again and your data is back where you used to find it. Also almost all setups and preferences as well as your bookmarks and address book get stored in hidden folders in your home folder. So after the new install the programs should find those and look/behave like before. I say almost because I can't speak for all programs, but all standard Kubuntu programs behave like that. > (Trim) > >>Choose your new 1TB disk >> and create your /root partition on it. Don't make it too small or too >> big. > > Would 30gb be enough for a healthy OS plus all ancillary applications or 40gb > or 50gb?  I can spare at least that.  I have 8gb of memory, so swap should be > 8gb+ 1gb for the video cards? 30gb should be plenty, 40 if you want some more space for extra programs and don't mind the possibility of never using it. You don't need extra swap for your video cards. > >> Then create your swap space (should be at least as big as your >> RAM if you want to use Suspend to Disk). > > I have never used this feature, however it sounds interesting.  Will you > explain how and why? As somebody else in another answer to this already wrote, you don't need that much swap for your normal work. I have 4gb of RAM and I have 4gb of SWAP. I only use around 1gb of RAM and even less SWAP for my normal work. My other desktop runs just fine with 1gb of RAM/SWAP. So why should you have a 8gb SWAP partition? As I said, only if you want to use suspend to disk. Suspend to disk writes the RAM into the SWAP partition (that's why it needs to be at least the same size) and then switches your computer off. When you switch it back on linux sees that you suspended to ram before and loads the data from SWAP back into RAM. So when the system is up again everything is in the same state as before. That 10 letter script you where working on in Open Office is still there, your picture that your were working on since 3 hours in gimp is still there and amarok resumes playing your favorite music in the middle of that song where it stopped when you suspended to disk. Very convenient as I think and saves some money too, since the computer is actually switched off and not just idling. It also is supposed to be faster then a normal boot which can differ from system to system. On the downside it doesn't work with all hardware. And if you don't want to use it you can save some space on the disk (less SWAP) and use it for other things. > >> Now create another partition >> and choose /home as mount point in the dialog. With that done, your >> system now will create your user folder under /home and all your data >> will be stored there. Automatically. > > Again, will this also include the other stuff, like email and bookmarks > automatically? Yes. See above. >> >> For your old 500GB disk create a mount point under /mnt, for example >> /mnt/backup (since you want to use it as that later). I don't know >> what the button is called but don't delete any partition or create a >> new one. You should be able to click on the partition and change the >> mount point somehow. > > I have things relatively screwed up on my current setup, so I must pause and > think about this.  I am considering carefully copying data to the new drive in > a more appropriate configuration and order.  Then review the data on the > current drive to make sure I haven't missed anything important, then make any > necessary additional movements of data and format the drive.  Then move all > critical information back to the existing drive.  I realize this is a lot of > extra work, but I don't trust how the data is currently saved, and I would > rather do extra work now than have continuing problems created by yesterday's > foolishness. That is exactly what you will be able to do. Again, make sure NOT to format this partition. You will find all your data under /mnt/backup. This includes all system files and your old home folder. When you go to /mnt/backup it will just look like as if you would go to / in your current system (see mounting example at the beginning of this mail) > > (Trim >>Once you start creating virtual >> machines you can just tell the virtualization program to store the >> machines under /mnt/virtual and you have your virtual machines on your >> virtual machines disk. > > I don't have any understanding about setting up virtual machines.  Does each > machine have to be set up using partitions with swap, or do they swap to the > original swap partition from my primary Operating System?  This is a new area > of thought for me. I try to keep that short. We can deal with it later in a different thread when everything else is running. A virtual machine is as the name says running in a virtual environment, it basically simulates a computer with all its hardware, including hdd. This environment is provided by a program that is installed on your system. This program usually saves all the information about the virtual machine in a file on your hard drive. As I understood you this would be on your 200gb hdd. Depending on the setup of your virtual machines they can interact with your host system or be totally unaware of anything that happens on your computer. >> >> If you think you screwed something up in the process, you can always >> go one step back in the installation process and start all over again. >> The physical changes are not made until you go to the next step in the >> installation process. >> >> Good luck. > Thanks Sascha, >> Cheers > And Cheers to you too, > > Steven               I am grateful for the time you spent on this; you are >                          remarkable. :) you are welcome. Cheers Sascha From derek at pointerstop.ca Wed May 13 12:56:12 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:56:12 -0300 Subject: help with adept_manager lock References: <3288dd4d0905121133w44ee0955te7112f246e9d201a@mail.gmail.com> <4A09DB22.6000009@gmx.com> Message-ID: Goh Lip wrote: > Patricia Wilson wrote: >> When I try to use adept_manager to do the upgrade to 9.04 I get an error >> message -- Unable to get exclusive lock .. >> I had the system go down during a prior attempt to do the upgrade and >> suspect that there may be a lock file somewhere that didn't get cleaned >> up. Can anyone help me find that/those lockfile(s)? >> > Try > > sudo dpkg --configure -a > > or > > sudo apt-get install -f it's a _lock_, not a broken install (though there could be a broken install, too). The lock file should be in /var/cache/apt somewhere, iirc. It's just called "lock". Just remove it. If you can't find it there (of course I don't have one), check in /var/run or as a last resort run "updatedb" and then "locate lock" -- derek From derek at pointerstop.ca Wed May 13 13:00:44 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:00:44 -0300 Subject: run time error References: <4A09D279.4000706@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Brian Norman Wootton wrote: > Below is a tarball extraction, when I run the executable I get the error > you see. I'm guessing that there is a Library Path, similar to MANPATH, > PATH, etc - because the wanted file is there and maybe the executable > needs a library path set to enable it to find it. I've tried 'echo > $LIBRARYPATH > but that returns null. My memory has got the moth and what I'm trying > to do might not work in kubuntu or for the gib executable. anyway, but... > hopefully some-one can put me on the right PATH. ... > ./gib: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot A bridge player I see. Where'd you get the tarball? I'd like to try it. > open shared object file: No such file or directory > brian%ls -ls /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 > 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2009-05-12 19:26 /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 -> > libgtk-1.2.so.0.9.1 > 1464 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1493656 2008-01-05 19:43 > /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0.9.1 > brian% ldconfig & /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ are the tools you need. -- derek From info at alvin.be Wed May 13 13:11:01 2009 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:11:01 +0200 Subject: screen-configuration.xml file in ~ Message-ID: <200905131511.02582.info@alvin.be> On every new installation of Kubuntu, I find a 'screen-configuration.xml' file in my home directory after first login. Does this file serve a purpose and why is it in the home directory? From derek at pointerstop.ca Wed May 13 13:14:45 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:14:45 -0300 Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? References: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <5ntqd6-a8r.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> Mark Greenwood wrote: > I will probably raise this as a bug, It isn't... > but X confuses the living goo out of > me so I'd like to probe the collective wisdom here first.. > > On my Asus eee box, X has inexplicably decided I have 2 displays attached, > despite there only being one connector for a monitor, and that being > connected to my flatscreen TV's VGA port. Then, by definition, you have two displays. There's clearly a second display on your eee. > Now that we have this new improved X which ignores xorg.conf, how can I > disable xinerama? Or how can I inform it politely that I only have one > screen? xrandr would do it, if your system settings don't provide a way (I don't have Gnome). -- derek From derek at pointerstop.ca Wed May 13 13:26:13 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:26:13 -0300 Subject: Find References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <8abf83c20905120634m6611cf87q48dcc327a51ce258@mail.gmail.com> <200905122012.03528.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905130751.35761.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils Kassube wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: >> This may be impossible, but can a person have data saved to the /home >> partition and the backup partition simultaneously? That would keep >> my backup current all the time. > > I don't think there are many programs that can save data at two > different places simultaneously. A backup is usually done independently > at regular intervals e.g. once a day during the night hours. Of course, you can use software RAID in a mirror configuration (don't ask me how...). >> Would doing that slow the computer down? Yes, but not much. > Usually yes. Saving something to disk means waiting for the disk to > complete the operation (unless you are saving only tiny bits of data). > Saving to two places means waiting twice. Actually it may take less than > double the time but you would notice a difference. It should be _much_ less than twice the time, but more than once :-) >> Since I have 8gb of RAM, won't that make the duplicated task >> manageable? > > It is not a question of RAM size but waiting for the disk. If they're _partitions_, yes, but if they're separate disks, no. Then the disk wait time becomes basically the speed of the slower disk. There are also a couple of different attempts to implement an "offline filesystem" via FUSE. Google for that. The idea is that your "ofs" is a local directory hierarchy backed by another filesystem elsewhere. When you access the local filesystem, it attempts to keep it synchronized with the external filesystem - if the external system is unavailable, differences will be synchronized when it is next mounted. I don't think these are ready for primetime yet, but one might work in this case. -- derek From derek at pointerstop.ca Wed May 13 13:08:57 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:08:57 -0300 Subject: How to set email client for firefox? References: <8abf83c20905120507y664eac68qe05c9acc8480a4f4@mail.gmail.com> <8abf83c20905120645pde16389wf51789a0d931006b@mail.gmail.com> <15edeae40905130020q58fce27dr4c77023d58574e7c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Willy Hamra wrote: > On 13/05/2009, marc wrote: >> Sascha Güthling said: >> >> > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:15 AM, marc wrote: >> >> Sascha Güthling twice said the following, but once in HTML, which has >> >> been deleted: >> >> >> >>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:21 AM, marc wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> In Jaunty, when I click a mailto url, the wrong email client is >> >>>> used. System settings/Default applications is set to the correct >> >>>> email preference, but clearly this is being ignored. >> >>>> >> >>>> It's also possible to set the email client in FF via >> >>>> Options/Prefs/Apps/ mailto. However, the only entries on there are >> >>>> evolution and Yahoo mail! afaik, you _can't_ set an email application there. At least when I tried to set up the wife's FF to use kmail, it never worked. It's that simple in FF2, but not in 3. >> >>>> First, I think this is a bug, so will raise it, but any idea how do >> >>>> you change the "default" applications in FF Pref/Apps? >> >>> >> >>> There is no bug. At least I don't think it is. Firefox is a multi >> >>> platform browser and if you think about the sheer amount of Linux >> >>> distros alone, you see where the problem lays. Since every distro has >> >>> its own preferred email client (and we don't even speak about the >> >>> user preferences) it is almost impossible to satisfy every user. It would be possible if FF either used your default email client, or provided you with an easy way to set your client (even IE 4 could do that). >> > Evolution is afaik the standard for Ubuntu and >> > probably set as this by Ubuntu and not by Firefox. There is a branding >> > package called ubufox that does that I think. In my Firefox >> > installation the standard was set to "Always ask" >> >> Hmm Okay. I'll check Ubuntu tomorrow, but I suspect that Ubuntu has >> hijacked kde again. "hijacked"? That's not even close. Firefox simply has no way to use kmail as a mail client. > > but afterall, firfox is a GTK application, and ubuntu GNOME is sort of > the default DE for ubuntu, and there exists one package of firefox, > there is no firefox-kde or something. so the most reasonable choice > for a mail client would be a friendly GTK application existing in > GNOME, and that is evolution. Well, no, that's not true at all. That's _a_ reasonable default, but far from "the most reasonable choice", since it doesn't even depend on evolution. -- derek From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Wed May 13 14:57:07 2009 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:57:07 +0100 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <8abf83c20905120634m6611cf87q48dcc327a51ce258@mail.gmail.com> <200905122012.03528.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905130751.35761.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4A0ADFC3.6070206@yahoo.it> Derek Broughton wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > >> Steven Vollom wrote: >>> This may be impossible, but can a person have data saved to the /home >>> partition and the backup partition simultaneously? That would keep >>> my backup current all the time. >> I don't think there are many programs that can save data at two >> different places simultaneously. A backup is usually done independently >> at regular intervals e.g. once a day during the night hours. > > Of course, you can use software RAID in a mirror configuration (don't ask me > how...). > >>> Would doing that slow the computer down? > > Yes, but not much. > >> Usually yes. Saving something to disk means waiting for the disk to >> complete the operation (unless you are saving only tiny bits of data). >> Saving to two places means waiting twice. Actually it may take less than >> double the time but you would notice a difference. > > It should be _much_ less than twice the time, but more than once :-) > >>> Since I have 8gb of RAM, won't that make the duplicated task >>> manageable? >> It is not a question of RAM size but waiting for the disk. > > If they're _partitions_, yes, but if they're separate disks, no. Then the > disk wait time becomes basically the speed of the slower disk. > > There are also a couple of different attempts to implement an "offline > filesystem" via FUSE. Google for that. The idea is that your "ofs" is a > local directory hierarchy backed by another filesystem elsewhere. When you > access the local filesystem, it attempts to keep it synchronized with the > external filesystem - if the external system is unavailable, differences > will be synchronized when it is next mounted. I don't think these are ready > for primetime yet, but one might work in this case. I'm wondering if a simpler solution like cron + rsync would do the trick for Steven. The backup wouldn't be instantaneous but it could be set to update the backup like every couple of hours; I'm finding rsync very quick for updating only the changes to files, and it can be used locally or over the network. Now the problem is that I know nothing about using cron... I. From fatgerman at ntlworld.com Wed May 13 15:56:54 2009 From: fatgerman at ntlworld.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:56:54 +0100 Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? In-Reply-To: <5ntqd6-a8r.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> References: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <5ntqd6-a8r.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <200905131656.55137.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> On Wednesday 13 May 2009 14:14:45 Derek Broughton wrote: > Mark Greenwood wrote: > > > I will probably raise this as a bug, > > It isn't... > > > but X confuses the living goo out of > > me so I'd like to probe the collective wisdom here first.. > > > > On my Asus eee box, X has inexplicably decided I have 2 displays attached, > > despite there only being one connector for a monitor, and that being > > connected to my flatscreen TV's VGA port. > > Then, by definition, you have two displays. There's clearly a second > display on your eee. No, there isn't. There is one DVI port, which is connected to the one VGA port on my TV via a suitable connector. Under Intrepid I had only one display, under Jaunty I have two. This is a completely bog-standard Intel graphics chip with one output. > > > Now that we have this new improved X which ignores xorg.conf, how can I > > disable xinerama? Or how can I inform it politely that I only have one > > screen? > > xrandr would do it, if your system settings don't provide a way (I don't > have Gnome). Thanks, I'll try xrandr. Mark > > -- > derek > > > From fatgerman at ntlworld.com Wed May 13 15:59:56 2009 From: fatgerman at ntlworld.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:59:56 +0100 Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? In-Reply-To: <15edeae40905130348w5d587185xe088b444b01e864a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <15edeae40905130348w5d587185xe088b444b01e864a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905131659.56949.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> On Wednesday 13 May 2009 11:48:35 Willy Hamra wrote: > 2009/5/13 marc : > > Mark Greenwood said: > > > >> I will probably raise this as a bug, but X confuses the living goo out > >> of me so I'd like to probe the collective wisdom here first.. > >> > >> On my Asus eee box, X has inexplicably decided I have 2 displays > >> attached, despite there only being one connector for a monitor, and that > >> being connected to my flatscreen TV's VGA port. Very odd. Anyway it > >> seems that because it thinks I have 2 screens it has also enabled the > >> horror that is Xinerama and this is causing mythtv no small amount of > >> confusion. > > > > Yup, it seem that if you have multiple video cards and/or multiple > > monitors X gets very confused. I'm having problems myself, and it's > > looking like X is the culprit. > > > >> Now that we have this new improved X which ignores xorg.conf, how can I > >> disable xinerama? Or how can I inform it politely that I only have one > >> screen? > > > > I don't believe that X ignores xorg.conf. If you make changes to > > xorg.conf, restart X, then examine the logs, you should see you're > > additions being actioned. > > > > There does seem to be quite a bit of confusion, though, about what's > > going on. > > > > yup, i've had enough of all this confusion about the bullet proof X. X > still DOES read xorg.conf, and still DOES apply all the graphical > gibberish we throw in it. i have written my xorg.conf for every > release of kubuntu from the days of gutsy, and always will. > the new bullet proof X is just that it can run, autoconfigure itself, > and work properly even if there is no xorg.conf at all, that's the > whole story. once settings exist, autoconfiguration stops, and it > reads the file. as for xinerama, i'm sorry, but i never used it, or > have any idea what properties/options it has that can be put in > xorg.conf to control it. Pasted from my xorg.conf: # Note that some configuration settings that could be done previously # in this file, now are automatically configured by the server and settings # here are ignored. Is this wrong? I've already tried several valid modeline settings (generated using gtf) to try to change the vsync settings, but X ignores them all. The same settings, on the same hardware, with an older version of X (and a different distro) work exactly as expected. Wierd. Mark > > > -- > Willy K. Hamra > Manager of Hamra Information Systems > Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. > From thorntreehome at gmail.com Wed May 13 16:09:30 2009 From: thorntreehome at gmail.com (Thorny) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:09:30 -0700 Subject: help with adept_manager lock References: <3288dd4d0905121133w44ee0955te7112f246e9d201a@mail.gmail.com> <4A09DB22.6000009@gmx.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:56:12 -0300, Derek Broughton posted: [...] > > it's a _lock_, not a broken install (though there could be a broken > install, too). The lock file should be in /var/cache/apt somewhere, iirc. > It's just called "lock". Just remove it. > > If you can't find it there (of course I don't have one), check in /var/run > or as a last resort run "updatedb" and then "locate lock" Probably: /var/cache/apt/archives/lock a 0B file, as Derek suggested, just delete it. From gargoylesmiles at yahoo.com Wed May 13 16:57:44 2009 From: gargoylesmiles at yahoo.com (samuel obirieze) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Wallpaper for each desktop Message-ID: <999122.1571.qm@web65409.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> How do i put a different wall paper for each desktop. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gmane at auxbuss.com Wed May 13 17:02:57 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? References: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <15edeae40905130348w5d587185xe088b444b01e864a@mail.gmail.com> <200905131659.56949.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Mark Greenwood said: > On Wednesday 13 May 2009 11:48:35 Willy Hamra wrote: >> 2009/5/13 marc : >> > Mark Greenwood said: >> > >> >> I will probably raise this as a bug, but X confuses the living goo >> >> out of me so I'd like to probe the collective wisdom here first.. >> >> >> >> On my Asus eee box, X has inexplicably decided I have 2 displays >> >> attached, despite there only being one connector for a monitor, and >> >> that being connected to my flatscreen TV's VGA port. Very odd. >> >> Anyway it seems that because it thinks I have 2 screens it has also >> >> enabled the horror that is Xinerama and this is causing mythtv no >> >> small amount of confusion. >> > >> > Yup, it seem that if you have multiple video cards and/or multiple >> > monitors X gets very confused. I'm having problems myself, and it's >> > looking like X is the culprit. >> > >> >> Now that we have this new improved X which ignores xorg.conf, how >> >> can I disable xinerama? Or how can I inform it politely that I only >> >> have one screen? >> > >> > I don't believe that X ignores xorg.conf. If you make changes to >> > xorg.conf, restart X, then examine the logs, you should see you're >> > additions being actioned. >> > >> > There does seem to be quite a bit of confusion, though, about what's >> > going on. >> > >> > >> yup, i've had enough of all this confusion about the bullet proof X. X >> still DOES read xorg.conf, and still DOES apply all the graphical >> gibberish we throw in it. i have written my xorg.conf for every release >> of kubuntu from the days of gutsy, and always will. the new bullet >> proof X is just that it can run, autoconfigure itself, and work >> properly even if there is no xorg.conf at all, that's the whole story. >> once settings exist, autoconfiguration stops, and it reads the file. as >> for xinerama, i'm sorry, but i never used it, or have any idea what >> properties/options it has that can be put in xorg.conf to control it. > > Pasted from my xorg.conf: > > # Note that some configuration settings that could be done previously # > in this file, now are automatically configured by the server and > settings # here are ignored. > > Is this wrong? I don't have those comments in mine. > > I've already tried several valid modeline settings (generated using gtf) > to try to change the vsync settings, but X ignores them all. The same > settings, on the same hardware, with an older version of X (and a > different distro) work exactly as expected. Wierd. What do the logs say? Lines from the .conf are marked, so I presume it will tell you when it ignores something. -- Best, Marc From g.lip at gmx.com Wed May 13 17:16:10 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 01:16:10 +0800 Subject: Wallpaper for each desktop In-Reply-To: <999122.1571.qm@web65409.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <999122.1571.qm@web65409.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: samuel obirieze wrote: > How do i put a different wall paper for each desktop. > In KDE4, you mean? Yup, couldn't find a way yet myself. In KDE3.5, yes; but I assume you know that already. Goh Lip From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Wed May 13 17:52:26 2009 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:52:26 +0100 Subject: run time error (Derek Broughton) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A0B08D9.5010507@btinternet.com> A bridge player I see. Where'd you get the tarball? I'd like to try it. http://www.gibware.com/ , but it ain't free brian From derek at pointerstop.ca Wed May 13 17:27:41 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:27:41 -0300 Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? References: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <5ntqd6-a8r.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> <200905131656.55137.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Mark Greenwood wrote: > On Wednesday 13 May 2009 14:14:45 Derek Broughton wrote: >> Mark Greenwood wrote: >> >> > I will probably raise this as a bug, >> >> It isn't... >> >> > but X confuses the living goo out of >> > me so I'd like to probe the collective wisdom here first.. >> > >> > On my Asus eee box, X has inexplicably decided I have 2 displays >> > attached, despite there only being one connector for a monitor, and >> > that being connected to my flatscreen TV's VGA port. >> >> Then, by definition, you have two displays. There's clearly a second >> display on your eee. > > No, there isn't. There is one DVI port, which is connected to the one VGA > port on my TV via a suitable connector. Are you trying to tell me that your eee, unlike every one I've ever seen, doesn't have a display in its lid? It doesn't matter how many VGA or DVI ports you have, the internal screen is one display, and external (VGA or DVI) ports are additional. You _can_ disable either one - most modern PCs disable the external as soon as you unplug it, but the _internal_ screen needs either hardware or software control, and it's entirely possible that your old configuration either (a) couldn't handle multiple displays, so it automatically disabled the internal when an external display was connected, or (b) you used to use a function- key sequence to switch displays which your current setup isn't recognizing. -- derek From fatgerman at ntlworld.com Wed May 13 18:33:38 2009 From: fatgerman at ntlworld.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:33:38 +0100 Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? In-Reply-To: References: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <200905131656.55137.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <200905131933.38440.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> On Wednesday 13 May 2009 18:27:41 Derek Broughton wrote: > Mark Greenwood wrote: > > > On Wednesday 13 May 2009 14:14:45 Derek Broughton wrote: > >> Mark Greenwood wrote: > >> > >> > I will probably raise this as a bug, > >> > >> It isn't... > >> > >> > but X confuses the living goo out of > >> > me so I'd like to probe the collective wisdom here first.. > >> > > >> > On my Asus eee box, X has inexplicably decided I have 2 displays > >> > attached, despite there only being one connector for a monitor, and > >> > that being connected to my flatscreen TV's VGA port. > >> > >> Then, by definition, you have two displays. There's clearly a second > >> display on your eee. > > > > No, there isn't. There is one DVI port, which is connected to the one VGA > > port on my TV via a suitable connector. > > Are you trying to tell me that your eee, unlike every one I've ever seen, > doesn't have a display in its lid? Yes :) I refer the honourable gentleman to my original post: >>On my Asus eee box This is an Eee Box - a desktop PC. It doesn't have a lid :) I wonder if the internal hardware is the same as the laptop version and that's what's confusing X? Funny though how it worked under Intrepid. It's only since the upgrade to Jaunty that this has started happening. Mark > > It doesn't matter how many VGA or DVI ports you have, the internal screen is > one display, and external (VGA or DVI) ports are additional. You _can_ > disable either one - most modern PCs disable the external as soon as you > unplug it, but the _internal_ screen needs either hardware or software > control, and it's entirely possible that your old configuration either (a) > couldn't handle multiple displays, so it automatically disabled the internal > when an external display was connected, or (b) you used to use a function- > key sequence to switch displays which your current setup isn't recognizing. > -- > derek > > > From derek at pointerstop.ca Wed May 13 18:11:13 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:11:13 -0300 Subject: Find References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <8abf83c20905120634m6611cf87q48dcc327a51ce258@mail.gmail.com> <200905122012.03528.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905130751.35761.kassube@gmx.net> <4A0ADFC3.6070206@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <13frd6-d2o.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > I'm wondering if a simpler solution like cron + rsync would do the trick > for Steven. I imagine. I was just off into my own world of wishes :-) > The backup wouldn't be instantaneous but it could be set to > update the backup like every couple of hours; I'm finding rsync very > quick for updating only the changes to files, and it can be used locally > or over the network. > > Now the problem is that I know nothing about using cron... Nothing to it. Use kcron and it takes any difficulty out of the task. I'd create a bash script that does what you have already done in a terminal, and I'd also invoke that script from /etc/network/if-up.d/ - then you get synchronization every time your network comes up _and_ whenever cron runs the script. -- derek From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 20:59:32 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:59:32 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905130751.35761.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905122012.03528.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905130751.35761.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200905131659.32589.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> (trim) > 30GB would certainly be enough. Look at your current installed system > for a reference. In a terminal type the command > > sudo du -sh /var /usr steven at Yeshua:~$ sudo du -sh /var /usr [sudo] password for steven: 942M /var 3.2G /usr steven at Yeshua:~$ > > and you can see the majority of what is used by the OS now. On my current HDD, I have 52gb of unaccounted disk space. That can't be normal. When I add up all the space allocated for partitions it amounts to 448gb of a 500gb drive. Since I want to be able to suspend to disk, I plan to have an 8gb swap, but that is what I did when I set up my current HDD, and it only allocated 7.5gb to swap. Should I add an additional .5gb to satisfy this shortage? Steven From nadreck at palain.com Wed May 13 21:12:14 2009 From: nadreck at palain.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:12:14 -0400 Subject: PulseAudio listing in Multimedia Message-ID: <4A0B37AE.7060408@palain.com> I ma having a problem with Phonon not working since my upgrade to Jaunty. Every device that "uses" Phonon, if that can accurately be said under the present circumstances, is completely soundless. Miro and certain movie players work just fine, so I know it is just a software problem. When I go to System Settings --> Multimedia, I see PulseAudio listed in the Device Preference list, even though I have made every attempt to remove it, and apt-get says there is nothing there to remove. Since this may have some bearing on my problem, is there a way to edit this list? All I can do on this screen is move things up or down, but removing is not an option. Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL nadreck at palain.com Linux User #333216 "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." --Claire Wolfe From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Wed May 13 21:19:38 2009 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:19:38 +0100 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905131659.32589.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905122012.03528.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905130751.35761.kassube@gmx.net> <200905131659.32589.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A0B396A.4040402@yahoo.it> Steven Vollom wrote: > (trim) >> 30GB would certainly be enough. Look at your current installed system >> for a reference. In a terminal type the command >> >> sudo du -sh /var /usr > > steven at Yeshua:~$ sudo du -sh /var /usr > [sudo] password for steven: > 942M /var > 3.2G /usr > steven at Yeshua:~$ > > >> and you can see the majority of what is used by the OS now. > On my current HDD, I have 52gb of unaccounted disk space. That can't be > normal. When I add up all the space allocated for partitions it amounts to > 448gb of a 500gb drive. The 500GB is probably measured "industry-style", i.e., 500 billion bytes (5 x 10^11 bytes - hope I got the numbers right). Considering that the real factor is 1024 instead of 1000, 500 gb declared = 476 gb real (plus some change). That's not too different from the 448 you report. HTH, I. > > Since I want to be able to suspend to disk, I plan to have an 8gb swap, but > that is what I did when I set up my current HDD, and it only allocated 7.5gb > to swap. Should I add an additional .5gb to satisfy this shortage? > > Steven > > From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 21:28:00 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:28:00 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <4A0ADFC3.6070206@yahoo.it> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0ADFC3.6070206@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <200905131728.00657.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> (Trim) > I'm wondering if a simpler solution like cron + rsync would do the trick > for Steven. The backup wouldn't be instantaneous but it could be set to > update the backup like every couple of hours; I'm finding rsync very > quick for updating only the changes to files, and it can be used locally > or over the network. > > Now the problem is that I know nothing about using cron... If I understand you correctly, the backup is only new data, not overwriting old to get the current information is that correct? And it is cron in conjunction with rsync that does this? That would work well for me. What do I ask for to get the help I need. Since I don't know anything about either cron or rsync, I don't know how to word the question. While waiting for an answer I will google cron and rsync to see if I can get an answer I can understand. Thanks! Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 21:55:57 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:55:57 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <4A0ADFC3.6070206@yahoo.it> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0ADFC3.6070206@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <200905131755.57212.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Wednesday 13 May 2009 10:57:07 am Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > > Nils Kassube wrote: > >> Steven Vollom wrote: > >>> This may be impossible, but can a person have data saved to the /home > >>> partition and the backup partition simultaneously? That would keep > >>> my backup current all the time. > >> > >> I don't think there are many programs that can save data at two > >> different places simultaneously. A backup is usually done independently > >> at regular intervals e.g. once a day during the night hours. > > > > Of course, you can use software RAID in a mirror configuration (don't ask > > me how...). > > > >>> Would doing that slow the computer down? > > > > Yes, but not much. > > > >> Usually yes. Saving something to disk means waiting for the disk to > >> complete the operation (unless you are saving only tiny bits of data). > >> Saving to two places means waiting twice. Actually it may take less than > >> double the time but you would notice a difference. > > > > It should be _much_ less than twice the time, but more than once :-) > > > >>> Since I have 8gb of RAM, won't that make the duplicated task > >>> manageable? > >> > >> It is not a question of RAM size but waiting for the disk. > > > > If they're _partitions_, yes, but if they're separate disks, no. Then > > the disk wait time becomes basically the speed of the slower disk. > > > > There are also a couple of different attempts to implement an "offline > > filesystem" via FUSE. Google for that. The idea is that your "ofs" is a > > local directory hierarchy backed by another filesystem elsewhere. When > > you access the local filesystem, it attempts to keep it synchronized with > > the external filesystem - if the external system is unavailable, > > differences will be synchronized when it is next mounted. I don't think > > these are ready for primetime yet, but one might work in this case. > > I'm wondering if a simpler solution like cron + rsync would do the trick > for Steven. The backup wouldn't be instantaneous but it could be set to > update the backup like every couple of hours; I'm finding rsync very > quick for updating only the changes to files, and it can be used locally > or over the network. > > Now the problem is that I know nothing about using cron... > > I. I have been reading, and a thing called Vixie Cron just loads the files if they have changed. That sounds like the right application. It can be set to work at reboot and happens in root without having to do that part of getting it done. SV From bilwalsh at swbell.net Wed May 13 22:26:41 2009 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:26:41 -0500 Subject: PulseAudio listing in Multimedia In-Reply-To: <4A0B37AE.7060408@palain.com> References: <4A0B37AE.7060408@palain.com> Message-ID: <4A0B4921.5050809@swbell.net> Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > I ma having a problem with Phonon not working since my upgrade to > Jaunty. Every device that "uses" Phonon, if that can accurately be said > under the present circumstances, is completely soundless. Miro and > certain movie players work just fine, so I know it is just a software > problem. > > When I go to System Settings --> Multimedia, I see PulseAudio listed in > the Device Preference list, even though I have made every attempt to > remove it, and apt-get says there is nothing there to remove. Since this > may have some bearing on my problem, is there a way to edit this list? > All I can do on this screen is move things up or down, but removing is > not an option. > > Thank you, > > I installed just about everything I could find for Alsa and deleted the main Pulseaudio package. There are other pulseaudio packages but to uninstall them you would have to delete half the OS. It still shows pulseaudio but it now shows Alsa also. Alsa makes my audio work now. I set Alsa as the default. HOWEVER, Alsa settings won't "stick" over a reboot. I have to go into Alsamixergui and reset it if I reboot. Broken since 8.10. YMMV!!! -- Treat all stressful situations like a dog does. If you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away From paulatgm at gmail.com Wed May 13 23:00:46 2009 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:00:46 -0400 Subject: 4.3 beta is out Message-ID: <4A0B511E.4010507@gmail.com> anyone know if kubuntu packages will be available for jaunty? From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 23:19:52 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:19:52 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <4A0ADFC3.6070206@yahoo.it> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0ADFC3.6070206@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <200905131919.52754.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> (Trim) > > > > If they're _partitions_, yes, but if they're separate disks, no. Then > > the disk wait time becomes basically the speed of the slower disk. If I do it, it will be SATA to SATA. > > > > There are also a couple of different attempts to implement an "offline > > filesystem" via FUSE. This sounds interesting, but I would have to understand it better before I would put my data somewhere that isn't mine. > I'm wondering if a simpler solution like cron + rsync would do the trick > for Steven. I have been doing a little reading, and it seems there is a new application for Cron called Vixie Cron that just adds the changed part of files, if they have changed. > The backup wouldn't be instantaneous but it could be set to > update the backup like every couple of hours My thought is not important, I was just thinking of a way that would keep me from screwing up. Actually if the computer backed up while I am sleeping, that would be perfect, especially if it only adds new un-backed-up data. Probably have to add that one to the dictionary. Thanks everyone reading and helping. I am getting very excited again. If this works like it think it will, I will be appropriately configured and backed-up for the first time in about 20 years. Wonders will never cease. I can't believe I could become part of the sane and sensible part of the community. What a great bunch you all are. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 23:33:33 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:33:33 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <4A0A4CC9.2080306@gmx.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905122104.12451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0A4CC9.2080306@gmx.com> Message-ID: <200905131933.33853.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Dear Goh Lip (trim) > What do now finally decide to do can be done automatically by the Jaunty > installer. You just need to instruct the installer to create a new home > partition. It will automatically create a swap partition, and anything > else, based on your computer specs. I have decided I want to have suspend to disk ability. That requires swap equal to my RAM, doesn't it. Will that automatically happen too? > (trim) > I certainly don't consider myself an expert. There are many things on > this post that I am not a bit familiar with. But I do have some > experience or have gone through something that other people is asking. > And if I can contribute, I will try. It is because I have also learnt a > lot from this post myself. I only hope I don't give out advise like the > passersby in Aesop's tale. I think it's OK to be kind to animals, smile. > > > I may have changed a bit since yesterday, but my new HDD comes tomorrow > > morning. So here is what my current plan is. > > (trim) Being the rock solid decision maker that I am, I plan to have a 30gb boot drive, 8.5gb of swap and the balance of the TB as /home. I wonder what I will actually do, tomorrow? The one thing I am certain of is this: I will have a properly configured and backed up computer for the first time in over 20 years. I can just hear my computer say "whew!" That means, "it's about time". I am so excited, I can hardly wait. Additionally, I am going to try to get a copy of Jaunty that contains KDE 4.2.3. I read that is possible. If so, I will install that. Talk to you later my friend. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 23:41:37 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:41:37 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <13frd6-d2o.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0ADFC3.6070206@yahoo.it> <13frd6-d2o.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <200905131941.37321.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Wednesday 13 May 2009 02:11:13 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > > I'm wondering if a simpler solution like cron + rsync would do the trick > > for Steven. > > I imagine. I was just off into my own world of wishes :-) > > > The backup wouldn't be instantaneous but it could be set to > > update the backup like every couple of hours; I'm finding rsync very > > quick for updating only the changes to files, and it can be used locally > > or over the network. > > > > Now the problem is that I know nothing about using cron... > > Nothing to it. Use kcron and it takes any difficulty out of the task. I'd > create a bash script that does what you have already done in a terminal, > and I'd also invoke that script from /etc/network/if-up.d/ - then you get > synchronization every time your network comes up _and_ whenever cron runs > the script. > -- > derek When I get to that step, that is what I will do. Thanks! Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 23:56:35 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:56:35 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <4A0B396A.4040402@yahoo.it> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905131659.32589.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0B396A.4040402@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <200905131956.35662.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Wednesday 13 May 2009 05:19:38 pm Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: > > (trim) > > > >> 30GB would certainly be enough. Look at your current installed system > >> for a reference. In a terminal type the command > >> > >> sudo du -sh /var /usr > > > > steven at Yeshua:~$ sudo du -sh /var /usr > > [sudo] password for steven: > > 942M /var > > 3.2G /usr > > steven at Yeshua:~$ > > > >> and you can see the majority of what is used by the OS now. > > > > On my current HDD, I have 52gb of unaccounted disk space. That can't be > > normal. When I add up all the space allocated for partitions it amounts > > to 448gb of a 500gb drive. > > The 500GB is probably measured "industry-style", i.e., 500 billion bytes > (5 x 10^11 bytes - hope I got the numbers right). Considering that the > real factor is 1024 instead of 1000, 500 gb declared = 476 gb real (plus > some change). That's not too different from the 448 you report. > HTH, > I. > > > Since I want to be able to suspend to disk, I plan to have an 8gb swap, > > but that is what I did when I set up my current HDD, and it only > > allocated 7.5gb to swap. Should I add an additional .5gb to satisfy this > > shortage? > > > > Steven The first computer I ever used belonged to a friend. Windows 3.1, 8mb ram, 100mb HDD. I remember being labeled a fool by a technician when I purchased a 100mb HDD. He said I would never be able to use it all. Now I have 1.7TB with 8gb of ram. Hah! As the kids would say, "go figure". Steven From claydoh at midmaine.com Thu May 14 00:00:04 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:00:04 -0400 Subject: 4.3 beta is out In-Reply-To: <4A0B511E.4010507@gmail.com> References: <4A0B511E.4010507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905132000.04396.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Wednesday 13 May 2009 7:00:46 pm Paul S wrote: > anyone know if kubuntu packages will be available for jaunty? Yes there will be, but no timeline yet, as the dev team is still getting things set up for Karmic, then the packages will be 'backported' to a ppa repository. My guess is sometime next week -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From g.lip at gmx.com Thu May 14 06:01:18 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:01:18 +0800 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905131933.33853.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905122104.12451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0A4CC9.2080306@gmx.com> <200905131933.33853.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A0BB3AE.2010107@gmx.com> Steven Vollom wrote: > Dear Goh Lip > (trim) >> What do now finally decide to do can be done automatically by the Jaunty >> installer. You just need to instruct the installer to create a new home >> partition. It will automatically create a swap partition, and anything >> else, based on your computer specs. > > I have decided I want to have suspend to disk ability. That requires swap > equal to my RAM, doesn't it. Will that automatically happen too? > (trim) Steven, I am not clear about suspend to disk requirements, I had always thought it uses the RAM memory rather than the hard disk. Also when RAM's are 4 GB or more, the accepted opinion is that 2GB of swap memory may not even be necessary. But they are not talking about suspend to disk. If I were you, (and I am not you), having lots of RAM and hard disks, I would allocate 12 GB to swap. >> I certainly don't consider myself an expert. There are many things on >> this post that I am not a bit familiar with. But I do have some >> experience or have gone through something that other people is asking. >> And if I can contribute, I will try. It is because I have also learnt a >> lot from this post myself. I only hope I don't give out advise like the >> passersby in Aesop's tale. > > I think it's OK to be kind to animals, smile. Yes, I am also very kind to animals. (i rescue stray dogs) >>> I may have changed a bit since yesterday, but my new HDD comes tomorrow >>> morning. So here is what my current plan is. >>> > (trim) > Being the rock solid decision maker that I am, I plan to have a 30gb boot > drive, 8.5gb of swap and the balance of the TB as /home. I wonder what I will > actually do, tomorrow? Heh, heh. > The one thing I am certain of is this: I will have a properly configured and > backed up computer for the first time in over 20 years. I can just hear my > computer say "whew!" That means, "it's about time". Good, there's lots more to learn. > > I am so excited, I can hardly wait. Additionally, I am going to try to get a > copy of Jaunty that contains KDE 4.2.3. I read that is possible. If so, I > will install that. Talk to you later my friend. > > Steven > All the best, Goh Lip From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Thu May 14 07:38:09 2009 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:38:09 +0100 Subject: hard drives size (was: Re: Find) In-Reply-To: <200905131956.35662.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905131659.32589.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0B396A.4040402@yahoo.it> <200905131956.35662.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A0BCA61.6000505@yahoo.it> Steven Vollom wrote: > The first computer I ever used belonged to a friend. Windows 3.1, 8mb ram, > 100mb HDD. I remember being labeled a fool by a technician when I purchased a > 100mb HDD. He said I would never be able to use it all. Now I have 1.7TB > with 8gb of ram. Hah! As the kids would say, "go figure". eheh I heard the same for a 30 megs, 270 megs, 4 gigs and pretty much any new size after that... I replaced WHEN to NEVER when I got around 20 gigs... go figure, very true. I. > > Steven > From wayward4now at gmail.com Thu May 14 08:02:28 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 04:02:28 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <15edeae40905120437q2578fd74wfc3267b94785c8a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <1241756713.6271.113.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <1241845713.20543.84.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <15edeae40905120437q2578fd74wfc3267b94785c8a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1242288148.1133.451.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 14:37 +0300, Willy Hamra wrote: > 2009/5/9 Ric Moore : > > On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 08:15 +0000, marc wrote: > >> Ric Moore said: > > > >> > But this may shed some light... When I worked at RedHat, I could never > >> > get my Ex's printer to work. Darn embarrassing to be on the Help Desk > >> > fixing everyone elses printers. We had one whizbang that fired up emacs, > >> > had ten terminals with code pouring down the screens like the matrix. > >> > Impressed me! Then he started narrowing down the problem to samba not > >> > being configured correctly. I'm going she doesn't NEED Samba and I > >> > ripped it out. The printer worked right off. Samba was trying to network > >> > a printer that hadn't been configured correctly for the system. The cart > >> > before the horse, so to speak. You can rip out Samba, after saving > >> > config files if you need it or rip it out for good if you don't need it. > >> > One less thing in the way. > >> > >> I'll give that a spin. Thanks. > > > > Let us know how it works. I later re-installed Samba on her machine and > > it picked up on the local printer it found and configured it for use > > easily. I guess it needs to be configured locally before the install of > > samba. It would be interesting if this was indeed the case. Good Luck! > > Ric > > > > my samsung ML-1610 works out of the box in jaunty, it got recognized > right away and auto-configured while installing jaunty alpha-3 or 4, > cant remember from an alternate CD. and in all previous versions, > using http://localhost:631 always opens up a CUSP page, and the > printer can always be found by the detect new printer functionality, > which configures the printer way easier than add a new printer. and > yes, my printer is USB as well. > can you make sure the printer is detected by the system? i'm no lspci > or lsusb or whatever expert, but kinfocenter/USB should point you in > the right direction if the printer is seen or not. Samba will steal it and put permissions to it. I know that one from hard experience as I noted. I'd really like to know how this turns out. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From tuxebi at gmx.de Thu May 14 08:21:53 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:21:53 +0200 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <1241756713.6271.113.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <1241845713.20543.84.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <15edeae40905120437q2578fd74wfc3267b94785c8a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: marc wrote: > > Good call. Hadn't thought to use kinfocenter. And yes, it can be seen. > > iP5300 > may I iterate that you can always do a test with turboprint? It is free to test. Imho there is nothing better and more easy to install for Canon Printers, as sad as it might seem to some people. Kind regards Eberhard From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 14 08:38:53 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <1241756713.6271.113.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <1241845713.20543.84.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <15edeae40905120437q2578fd74wfc3267b94785c8a4@mail.gmail.com> <1242288148.1133.451.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: Ric Moore said: > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 14:37 +0300, Willy Hamra wrote: >> 2009/5/9 Ric Moore : >> > On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 08:15 +0000, marc wrote: >> >> Ric Moore said: >> > >> >> > But this may shed some light... When I worked at RedHat, I could >> >> > never get my Ex's printer to work. Darn embarrassing to be on the >> >> > Help Desk fixing everyone elses printers. We had one whizbang that >> >> > fired up emacs, had ten terminals with code pouring down the >> >> > screens like the matrix. Impressed me! Then he started narrowing >> >> > down the problem to samba not being configured correctly. I'm >> >> > going she doesn't NEED Samba and I ripped it out. The printer >> >> > worked right off. Samba was trying to network a printer that >> >> > hadn't been configured correctly for the system. The cart before >> >> > the horse, so to speak. You can rip out Samba, after saving config >> >> > files if you need it or rip it out for good if you don't need it. >> >> > One less thing in the way. >> >> >> >> I'll give that a spin. Thanks. >> > >> > Let us know how it works. I later re-installed Samba on her machine >> > and it picked up on the local printer it found and configured it for >> > use easily. I guess it needs to be configured locally before the >> > install of samba. It would be interesting if this was indeed the >> > case. Good Luck! Ric >> > >> > >> my samsung ML-1610 works out of the box in jaunty, it got recognized >> right away and auto-configured while installing jaunty alpha-3 or 4, >> cant remember from an alternate CD. and in all previous versions, using >> http://localhost:631 always opens up a CUSP page, and the printer can >> always be found by the detect new printer functionality, which >> configures the printer way easier than add a new printer. and yes, my >> printer is USB as well. >> can you make sure the printer is detected by the system? i'm no lspci >> or lsusb or whatever expert, but kinfocenter/USB should point you in >> the right direction if the printer is seen or not. > > Samba will steal it and put permissions to it. I know that one from hard > experience as I noted. I'd really like to know how this turns out. :) Do you know how to get samba to "unsteal" it, without removing samba? -- Best, Marc From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 14 08:43:00 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <1241756713.6271.113.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <1241845713.20543.84.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <15edeae40905120437q2578fd74wfc3267b94785c8a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Eberhard Roloff said: > marc wrote: >> >> Good call. Hadn't thought to use kinfocenter. And yes, it can be seen. >> >> iP5300 >> > may I iterate that you can always do a test with turboprint? It is free > to test. > > Imho there is nothing better and more easy to install for Canon > Printers, as sad as it might seem to some people. The things is that I know the printer is operational and that Kubuntu can "see" the printer. Proving (or otherwise) that it prints with software that I'll never use doesn't add to my knowledge or further the solution to the problem. -- Best, Marc From flojacq at gmail.com Thu May 14 08:58:54 2009 From: flojacq at gmail.com (Florian Jacquemet) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:58:54 +0200 Subject: Wallpaper for each desktop In-Reply-To: References: <999122.1571.qm@web65409.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <94b29c3f0905140158i33aa9141sa5b92f32444b316@mail.gmail.com> It'll be great on kde4! Has someone an idea?? Thanks & Cheers -- Florian Jacquemet Sent from Zufikon, Argovie, Suisse On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Goh Lip wrote: > samuel obirieze wrote: > > How do i put a different wall paper for each desktop. > > > > In KDE4, you mean? Yup, couldn't find a way yet myself. > In KDE3.5, yes; but I assume you know that already. > > Goh Lip > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr Thu May 14 09:04:06 2009 From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:04:06 +0200 Subject: PulseAudio listing in Multimedia In-Reply-To: <4A0B4921.5050809@swbell.net> References: <4A0B37AE.7060408@palain.com> <4A0B4921.5050809@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200905141104.08165.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> On Thursday 14 May 2009 00:26, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > I ma having a problem with Phonon not working since my upgrade to > > Jaunty. Every device that "uses" Phonon, if that can accurately be said > > under the present circumstances, is completely soundless. Miro and > > certain movie players work just fine, so I know it is just a software > > problem. > > > > When I go to System Settings --> Multimedia, I see PulseAudio listed in > > the Device Preference list, even though I have made every attempt to > > remove it, and apt-get says there is nothing there to remove. Since this > > may have some bearing on my problem, is there a way to edit this list? > > All I can do on this screen is move things up or down, but removing is > > not an option. > > > > Thank you, > > I installed just about everything I could find for Alsa and deleted the > main Pulseaudio package. There are other pulseaudio packages but to > uninstall them you would have to delete half the OS. It still shows > pulseaudio but it now shows Alsa also. Alsa makes my audio work now. I > set Alsa as the default. HOWEVER, Alsa settings won't "stick" over a > reboot. I have to go into Alsamixergui and reset it if I reboot. > > Broken since 8.10. > > YMMV!!! > Hi Billie. This may not be your problem, but it's worth a look in Kmix's settings > configure kmix. If the load volumes at login box is checked, uncheck it, and then see if your settings are saved when you reboot. This is a long standing problem with Kmix, and seems to come and go with various distros, and distro versions. The problem is that when you shutdown, alsactl store is run, and saves your settings. So far so good. Then you reboot and alsactl restore is run, and the alsamixer settings are restored to the state they were in when they were saved. This is pre login. Now though you login to KDE, and Kmix messes with the alsamixer settings, and changes them to the original settings that Kmix had when you installed the OS. The load volumes at login box, when checked, retains these original settings somewhere, so that whatever changes you make to alsamixer, or Kmix when booted up, are saved correctly when you reboot, and restored correctly, but only as far as the KDE login. Then you login, and Kmix's original settings are applied, and messes up your correctly restored alamixer settings. As I say, this may not be your problem, but it is a long standing one. All the best. Nigel. From tuxebi at gmx.de Thu May 14 09:05:24 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:05:24 +0200 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <1241756713.6271.113.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <1241845713.20543.84.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <15edeae40905120437q2578fd74wfc3267b94785c8a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: marc wrote: > Eberhard Roloff said: > >> marc wrote: >>> Good call. Hadn't thought to use kinfocenter. And yes, it can be seen. >>> >>> iP5300 >>> >> may I iterate that you can always do a test with turboprint? It is free >> to test. >> >> Imho there is nothing better and more easy to install for Canon >> Printers, as sad as it might seem to some people. > > The things is that I know the printer is operational and that Kubuntu can > "see" the printer. Proving (or otherwise) that it prints with software > that I'll never use doesn't add to my knowledge or further the solution > to the problem. > well, this thread is going on for eight days, now. I just understood that you still are unable to "really" use the printer. Just for me turboprint is a proven solution to make Canon printers work. I use it all the time and exclusively, when it comes to Canon. But surely, it is entirely up to you what you do. Kind regards Eberhard From mirtosilvio.busico at fastwebnet.it Thu May 14 12:06:12 2009 From: mirtosilvio.busico at fastwebnet.it (Mirto Silvio Busico) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:06:12 +0200 Subject: Kpackagekit crashes Message-ID: <4A0C0934.1010604@fastwebnet.it> Hi all, I have a Jaunty 64 bit. Today, after issuing "sudo apt-get update" the kpackagekit no more manages updates. It gives the error "Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1" What can I do? Thanks Mirto -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mirtosilvio_busico.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 272 bytes Desc: not available URL: From guethling at googlemail.com Thu May 14 12:15:51 2009 From: guethling at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sascha_G=FCthling?=) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:15:51 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <4A0BB3AE.2010107@gmx.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905122104.12451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0A4CC9.2080306@gmx.com> <200905131933.33853.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0BB3AE.2010107@gmx.com> Message-ID: <8abf83c20905140515h7508c24fpee88b8cb666de18b@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Goh Lip wrote: > Steven Vollom wrote: >> Dear Goh Lip >> (trim) >> I have decided I want to have suspend to disk ability.  That requires swap >> equal to my RAM, doesn't it.  Will that automatically happen too? >> (trim) > > Steven, I am not clear about suspend to disk requirements, I had always > thought it uses the RAM memory rather than the hard disk. Also when > RAM's  are 4 GB or more, the accepted opinion is that 2GB of swap memory > may not even be necessary. But they are not talking about suspend to > disk. If I were you, (and I am not you), having lots of RAM and hard > disks, I would allocate 12 GB to swap. > You confuse Suspend to RAM with Suspend to Disk. I guess you see the difference already. Suspend to Ram shuts down the system but keeps the RAM powered so you don't loose it. Suspend to Disk saves the content of the RAM to the HDD (here to the swap area) and shuts the computer down completely. That's why you need that much swap to be able to do that. When waking up the content is read back into RAM and the system looks like when you left it. > snip > > All the best, > Goh Lip > Cheers Sascha From g.lip at gmx.com Thu May 14 13:25:20 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:25:20 +0800 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <8abf83c20905140515h7508c24fpee88b8cb666de18b@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905122104.12451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0A4CC9.2080306@gmx.com> <200905131933.33853.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0BB3AE.2010107@gmx.com> <8abf83c20905140515h7508c24fpee88b8cb666de18b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sascha Güthling wrote: > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Goh Lip wrote: >> Steven Vollom wrote: >>> Dear Goh Lip >>> (trim) >>> I have decided I want to have suspend to disk ability. That requires swap >>> equal to my RAM, doesn't it. Will that automatically happen too? >>> (trim) >> Steven, I am not clear about suspend to disk requirements, I had always >> thought it uses the RAM memory rather than the hard disk. Also when >> RAM's are 4 GB or more, the accepted opinion is that 2GB of swap memory >> may not even be necessary. But they are not talking about suspend to >> disk. If I were you, (and I am not you), having lots of RAM and hard >> disks, I would allocate 12 GB to swap. >> > You confuse Suspend to RAM with Suspend to Disk. I guess you see the > difference already. Suspend to Ram shuts down the system but keeps the > RAM powered so you don't loose it. Suspend to Disk saves the content > of the RAM to the HDD (here to the swap area) and shuts the computer > down completely. That's why you need that much swap to be able to do > that. When waking up the content is read back into RAM and the system > looks like when you left it. > snip >> All the best, >> Goh Lip >> > Cheers > Sascha Sascha, Okay, thanks for the info. Something new to learn. Regards Goh lip From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 14 13:38:08 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Share not working Message-ID: Say I want to share ~/Public. I right-click the folder in dolphin and select the Share tab. Then click Configure file sharing... It authenticates, then does nothing. Now, each time I click Configure file sharing... nothing happens. The only message I can find is in auth.log May 14 15:32:10 mote sudo: marc : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/home/marc/ Documents ; USER=root ;COMMAND=/usr/bin/kcmshell4 fileshare /usr/bin/kcmshell4 exists, Any ideas? -- Best, Marc From derek at pointerstop.ca Thu May 14 13:39:55 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:39:55 -0300 Subject: Find References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0ADFC3.6070206@yahoo.it> <200905131919.52754.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: > I have been doing a little reading, and it seems there is a new > application for Cron called Vixie Cron that just adds the changed part of > files, if they have changed. There's nothing new about Vixie Cron - it's just one of the many implementations of Cron (and the one that Ubuntu - and Debian, iirc) has used just about forever. In any case, it sounds like what you are reading about is an rsync script that runs under cron (in other words, exactly what Ignazio said). Cron itself, Vixie or otherwise, doesn't do file copies. -- derek From derek at pointerstop.ca Thu May 14 13:35:27 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:35:27 -0300 Subject: Find References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905122012.03528.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905130751.35761.kassube@gmx.net> <200905131659.32589.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0B396A.4040402@yahoo.it> Message-ID: Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > The 500GB is probably measured "industry-style", i.e., 500 billion bytes > (5 x 10^11 bytes - hope I got the numbers right). Considering that the > real factor is 1024 instead of 1000, 500 gb declared = 476 gb real Aargh. How many times do we have to repeat: that is NOT "industry-style", it's ISO standard. The "real" factor would be 1024 if the size was given as 500GiB. It's only confusing because people insist on saying "500 gb declared = 476 gb real". In any case, its never been true of disks. The numbers manufacturers report are "unformatted", and no disk ever sold has actually been able to store that many bytes once formatted into cylinders, tracks and sectors. -- derek From derek at pointerstop.ca Thu May 14 13:29:54 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:29:54 -0300 Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? References: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <200905131656.55137.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <200905131933.38440.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Mark Greenwood wrote: >> Are you trying to tell me that your eee, unlike every one I've ever seen, >> doesn't have a display in its lid? > > Yes :) > > I refer the honourable gentleman to my original post: >>>On my Asus eee box > > This is an Eee Box - a desktop PC. Sorry, but I'd never heard "box" used to differentiate a desktop PC from a laptop (or smaller) but I _had_ gone to ASUS' site to try to find out if they had such a product, and I couldn't find _anything_ that actually told me what the EEE product line actually consisted of. Sometimes even mostly- clueful vendors just don't get it... > It doesn't have a lid :) OK, well that's obviously news to me, but it does make your situation strange... > I wonder if the internal hardware is the same as the laptop version and > that's what's confusing X? Funny though how it worked under Intrepid. It's > only since the upgrade to Jaunty that this has started happening. Could be, I've no idea. If that's right though, it's not _that_ odd. I couldn't get dual monitors to work at all under Intrepid (not on an eee of any kind, mind you), and have it mostly working in Jaunty (I need to issue an "xrandr" command every time the desktop starts up, but everything else works), so clearly some things have changed regarding the handling of multiple monitors. -- derek From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Thu May 14 14:37:43 2009 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:37:43 +0100 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905122012.03528.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905130751.35761.kassube@gmx.net> <200905131659.32589.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0B396A.4040402@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <4A0C2CB7.8000801@yahoo.it> Derek Broughton wrote: > Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > >> The 500GB is probably measured "industry-style", i.e., 500 billion bytes >> (5 x 10^11 bytes - hope I got the numbers right). Considering that the >> real factor is 1024 instead of 1000, 500 gb declared = 476 gb real > > Aargh. How many times do we have to repeat: that is NOT "industry-style", > it's ISO standard. The "real" factor would be 1024 if the size was given as > 500GiB. It's only confusing because people insist on saying "500 gb > declared = 476 gb real". Sorry for attributing marketing intentions to producers. So it is 500 GB = 476 GiB, right? Then another ~20 gigs being used between partition table and file indexes for the various partitions. I guess that accounts for the size Steven is seeing. I. > > In any case, its never been true of disks. The numbers manufacturers report > are "unformatted", and no disk ever sold has actually been able to store > that many bytes once formatted into cylinders, tracks and sectors. From derek at pointerstop.ca Thu May 14 13:44:50 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:44:50 -0300 Subject: Find References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905122104.12451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0A4CC9.2080306@gmx.com> <200905131933.33853.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0BB3AE.2010107@gmx.com> Message-ID: Goh Lip wrote: > Steven, I am not clear about suspend to disk requirements, I had always > thought it uses the RAM memory rather than the hard disk. That is "suspend to RAM", not "suspend to disk". > Also when > RAM's are 4 GB or more, the accepted opinion is that 2GB of swap memory > may not even be necessary. But they are not talking about suspend to > disk. If I were you, (and I am not you), having lots of RAM and hard > disks, I would allocate 12 GB to swap. You _must_ have a swap partition large enough to contain all the in-use memory pages. Since it compresses and discards pages that don't need to be stored in the swap space, it may not need to be _quite_ as large as main memory, but the only way to guarantee that it's never too small is to have a dedicated partition just for the hibernate image which is the size of total virtual memory. > -- derek From gene.heskett at verizon.net Thu May 14 15:33:45 2009 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:33:45 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <1242288148.1133.451.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <15edeae40905120437q2578fd74wfc3267b94785c8a4@mail.gmail.com> <1242288148.1133.451.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200905141133.46151.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Thursday 14 May 2009, Ric Moore wrote: >On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 14:37 +0300, Willy Hamra wrote: >> 2009/5/9 Ric Moore : >> > On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 08:15 +0000, marc wrote: >> >> Ric Moore said: >> >> > But this may shed some light... When I worked at RedHat, I could >> >> > never get my Ex's printer to work. Darn embarrassing to be on the >> >> > Help Desk fixing everyone elses printers. We had one whizbang that >> >> > fired up emacs, had ten terminals with code pouring down the screens >> >> > like the matrix. Impressed me! Then he started narrowing down the >> >> > problem to samba not being configured correctly. I'm going she >> >> > doesn't NEED Samba and I ripped it out. The printer worked right off. >> >> > Samba was trying to network a printer that hadn't been configured >> >> > correctly for the system. The cart before the horse, so to speak. You >> >> > can rip out Samba, after saving config files if you need it or rip it >> >> > out for good if you don't need it. One less thing in the way. >> >> >> >> I'll give that a spin. Thanks. >> > >> > Let us know how it works. I later re-installed Samba on her machine and >> > it picked up on the local printer it found and configured it for use >> > easily. I guess it needs to be configured locally before the install of >> > samba. It would be interesting if this was indeed the case. Good Luck! >> > Ric >> >> my samsung ML-1610 works out of the box in jaunty, it got recognized >> right away and auto-configured while installing jaunty alpha-3 or 4, >> cant remember from an alternate CD. and in all previous versions, >> using http://localhost:631 always opens up a CUSP page, and the >> printer can always be found by the detect new printer functionality, >> which configures the printer way easier than add a new printer. and >> yes, my printer is USB as well. >> can you make sure the printer is detected by the system? i'm no lspci >> or lsusb or whatever expert, but kinfocenter/USB should point you in >> the right direction if the printer is seen or not. > >Samba will steal it and put permissions to it. I know that one from hard >experience as I noted. I'd really like to know how this turns out. :) >Ric > That secret is to remove an printers section in the smb.conf. Nuke it totally. In all machines. Then in /etc/cups, create this client.conf file, owned by root:lp, with these perms:-rw-r--r-- ----------------------------- # Client.conf ServerName coyote.coyote.den ----------------------------- And that is all it takes for all the printers located on and attached to this machine, to be visible and useable by the unpriviledged user 'gene' on that kubuntu-6.06-LTS box that runs my tabletop milling machine. It even makes visible, a brother laser that may be attached to another machine in this little home network of mine. It becomes visible by virtue of being visible to this F10 machine. A very simple, from the cli, 'lpr file', on shop.coyote.den by the user gene, followed by a walk to the house from the shop to recycle & refresh the contents of my coffee cup, and pickup the printout while I'm there. IMNSHO, it was a HUGE mistake for *buntu to leave that out even if it was all comment telling the curious how to make it work. That lack has, over the years, created several megabytes of questions on this list. But I have had to add it to every *buntu install I've done since 6.06. Come on guys, maybe 100 bytes but you can't find room on the CD for it? Obviously my systems use host files, not dhcp, but I think that might even work if done right. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Next, upon a stool, we've a sight to make you drool. Seven virgins and a mule, keep it cool, keep it cool. -- ELP, "Karn Evil 9" (1st Impression, Part 2) From gene.heskett at verizon.net Thu May 14 15:37:08 2009 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:37:08 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905141137.08755.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Thursday 14 May 2009, Eberhard Roloff wrote: >marc wrote: >> Good call. Hadn't thought to use kinfocenter. And yes, it can be seen. >> >> iP5300 > >may I iterate that you can always do a test with turboprint? It is free >to test. > >Imho there is nothing better and more easy to install for Canon >Printers, as sad as it might seem to some people. > Almost FUDish. You are ignoring some of the better epson's and gutenprint*. And while I haven't tried turboprint for quite a while, it was not at all useable for good color when I last did. I hope it has improved. >Kind regards >Eberhard -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Agnes' Law: Almost everything in life is easier to get into than out of. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Thu May 14 15:38:41 2009 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:38:41 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: <1242288148.1133.451.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200905141138.41752.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Thursday 14 May 2009, marc wrote: >Ric Moore said: >> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 14:37 +0300, Willy Hamra wrote: >>> 2009/5/9 Ric Moore : >>> > On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 08:15 +0000, marc wrote: >>> >> Ric Moore said: >>> >> > But this may shed some light... When I worked at RedHat, I could >>> >> > never get my Ex's printer to work. Darn embarrassing to be on the >>> >> > Help Desk fixing everyone elses printers. We had one whizbang that >>> >> > fired up emacs, had ten terminals with code pouring down the >>> >> > screens like the matrix. Impressed me! Then he started narrowing >>> >> > down the problem to samba not being configured correctly. I'm >>> >> > going she doesn't NEED Samba and I ripped it out. The printer >>> >> > worked right off. Samba was trying to network a printer that >>> >> > hadn't been configured correctly for the system. The cart before >>> >> > the horse, so to speak. You can rip out Samba, after saving config >>> >> > files if you need it or rip it out for good if you don't need it. >>> >> > One less thing in the way. >>> >> >>> >> I'll give that a spin. Thanks. >>> > >>> > Let us know how it works. I later re-installed Samba on her machine >>> > and it picked up on the local printer it found and configured it for >>> > use easily. I guess it needs to be configured locally before the >>> > install of samba. It would be interesting if this was indeed the >>> > case. Good Luck! Ric >>> >>> my samsung ML-1610 works out of the box in jaunty, it got recognized >>> right away and auto-configured while installing jaunty alpha-3 or 4, >>> cant remember from an alternate CD. and in all previous versions, using >>> http://localhost:631 always opens up a CUSP page, and the printer can >>> always be found by the detect new printer functionality, which >>> configures the printer way easier than add a new printer. and yes, my >>> printer is USB as well. >>> can you make sure the printer is detected by the system? i'm no lspci >>> or lsusb or whatever expert, but kinfocenter/USB should point you in >>> the right direction if the printer is seen or not. >> >> Samba will steal it and put permissions to it. I know that one from hard >> experience as I noted. I'd really like to know how this turns out. :) > >Do you know how to get samba to "unsteal" it, without removing samba? > See my other post Marc. Basically, excise the printers section of your smb.conf. Then add a 'client.conf' to /etc/cups. >-- >Best, >Marc -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -- Salvor Hardin From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu May 14 15:40:13 2009 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:40:13 -0500 Subject: PulseAudio listing in Multimedia In-Reply-To: <200905141104.08165.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> References: <4A0B37AE.7060408@palain.com> <4A0B4921.5050809@swbell.net> <200905141104.08165.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr> Message-ID: <4A0C3B5D.9020708@swbell.net> Nigel Henry wrote: > On Thursday 14 May 2009 00:26, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > >> Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: >> >>> I ma having a problem with Phonon not working since my upgrade to >>> Jaunty. Every device that "uses" Phonon, if that can accurately be said >>> under the present circumstances, is completely soundless. Miro and >>> certain movie players work just fine, so I know it is just a software >>> problem. >>> >>> When I go to System Settings --> Multimedia, I see PulseAudio listed in >>> the Device Preference list, even though I have made every attempt to >>> remove it, and apt-get says there is nothing there to remove. Since this >>> may have some bearing on my problem, is there a way to edit this list? >>> All I can do on this screen is move things up or down, but removing is >>> not an option. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >> I installed just about everything I could find for Alsa and deleted the >> main Pulseaudio package. There are other pulseaudio packages but to >> uninstall them you would have to delete half the OS. It still shows >> pulseaudio but it now shows Alsa also. Alsa makes my audio work now. I >> set Alsa as the default. HOWEVER, Alsa settings won't "stick" over a >> reboot. I have to go into Alsamixergui and reset it if I reboot. >> >> Broken since 8.10. >> >> YMMV!!! >> >> > > Hi Billie. > > This may not be your problem, but it's worth a look in Kmix's settings > > configure kmix. If the load volumes at login box is checked, uncheck it, and > then see if your settings are saved when you reboot. > > This is a long standing problem with Kmix, and seems to come and go with > various distros, and distro versions. > > The problem is that when you shutdown, alsactl store is run, and saves your > settings. So far so good. Then you reboot and alsactl restore is run, and the > alsamixer settings are restored to the state they were in when they were > saved. This is pre login. Now though you login to KDE, and Kmix messes with > the alsamixer settings, and changes them to the original settings that Kmix > had when you installed the OS. > > The load volumes at login box, when checked, retains these original settings > somewhere, so that whatever changes you make to alsamixer, or Kmix when > booted up, are saved correctly when you reboot, and restored correctly, but > only as far as the KDE login. Then you login, and Kmix's original settings > are applied, and messes up your correctly restored alamixer settings. > > As I say, this may not be your problem, but it is a long standing one. > > All the best. > > Nigel. > > > Give it a shot and see what happens. May be a few days/weeks but................ -- Treat all stressful situations like a dog does. If you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away From hvralpha at intekom.co.za Thu May 14 16:44:44 2009 From: hvralpha at intekom.co.za (hvralpha) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:44:44 +0200 Subject: Share not working Message-ID: <200905141844.45076.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> Shareing is broken in Kubuntu 9.04 and a bug already registered on that. -- hvralpha -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g.lip at gmx.com Thu May 14 17:25:23 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 01:25:23 +0800 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <8abf83c20905140515h7508c24fpee88b8cb666de18b@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905122104.12451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0A4CC9.2080306@gmx.com> <200905131933.33853.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0BB3AE.2010107@gmx.com> <8abf83c20905140515h7508c24fpee88b8cb666de18b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sascha Güthling wrote: > You confuse Suspend to RAM with Suspend to Disk. I guess you see the > difference already. Suspend to Ram shuts down the system but keeps the > RAM powered so you don't loose it. Suspend to Disk saves the content > of the RAM to the HDD (here to the swap area) and shuts the computer > down completely. That's why you need that much swap to be able to do > that. When waking up the content is read back into RAM and the system > looks like when you left it. Derek Broughton wrote: > You _must_ have a swap partition large enough to contain all the in-use > memory pages. Since it compresses and discards pages that don't need to be > stored in the swap space, it may not need to be _quite_ as large as main > memory, but the only way to guarantee that it's never too small is to have a > dedicated partition just for the hibernate image which is the size of total > virtual memory. I have some questions, please... I have 2 GB RAM, had 7.5 GB swap (yes, some time ago partitioned my disk, thought it safer than sorry, still no regrets, have more disk space than I could use). Jaunty 64 KDE 4.2.3 Linux 2.6.28-11 Noticed at system monitor (always running), that my swap usage is ALWAYS zero, whatever I do, Gimp, Firefox, Kaffeine all running. Checked /etc/fstab to make sure swap is there, enabled and on, (swapon -a); even when flash 10 freezed temporarily firefox, swap is still zero. Is it because swap is not needed? Can my computer can handle all this without swap? I also note though, that my RAM is never at 100% and my processors were never at 100%. (Flash 10 freezes 1 core at 100%, the other never at 100 %) Next, suspend to disk, (now I know the distinction from suspend to RAM, thanks). Are they useful only for laptops, where battery conservation is desired? What purpose would it serve for desktops? Indeed, if we have suspend to RAM in laptops, what advantage would suspend to disk have? Won't battery consumption be lower if disk is actually off? Thanks for your feedback. Regards, Goh Lip From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 14 17:57:50 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Share not working References: Message-ID: marc said: >> Say I want to share ~/Public. I right-click the folder in dolphin and >> select the Share tab. Then click Configure file sharing... It >> authenticates, then does nothing. Now, each time I click Configure file >> sharing... nothing happens. >> >> The only message I can find is in auth.log >> >> May 14 15:32:10 mote sudo: marc : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/home/marc/ >> Documents ; USER=root ;COMMAND=/usr/bin/kcmshell4 fileshare >> >> /usr/bin/kcmshell4 exists, >> >> Any ideas? hvralpha said: > Sharing is broken in Kubuntu 9.04 and a bug already registered on that. Do you have the ref? Please don't break the thread. -- Best, Marc From kassube at gmx.net Thu May 14 17:57:37 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:57:37 +0200 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <8abf83c20905140515h7508c24fpee88b8cb666de18b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905141957.37648.kassube@gmx.net> Goh Lip wrote: > I have 2 GB RAM, had 7.5 GB swap (yes, some time ago partitioned my > disk, thought it safer than sorry, still no regrets, have more disk > space than I could use). > Jaunty 64 > KDE 4.2.3 > Linux 2.6.28-11 > > Noticed at system monitor (always running), that my swap usage is > ALWAYS zero, whatever I do, Gimp, Firefox, Kaffeine all running. > Checked /etc/fstab to make sure swap is there, enabled and on, > (swapon -a); even when flash 10 freezed temporarily firefox, swap is > still zero. Is it because swap is not needed? Yes, you have a lot more RAM than necessary to run those few apps. Same here BTW. > Next, suspend to disk, (now I know the distinction from suspend to > RAM, thanks). Are they useful only for laptops, where battery > conservation is desired? What purpose would it serve for desktops? My desktop doesn't support suspend to RAM but suspend to disk. If I want to suspend I only have this one option. > Indeed, if we have suspend to RAM in laptops, what advantage would > suspend to disk have? Won't battery consumption be lower if disk is > actually off? Suspend to disk means that the entire machine is switched off (including disk) after the memory contents is written to disk. OTOH, suspend to RAM means that there is still some power needed to keep the RAM alive. Nils From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 14 18:02:57 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: KDE 4 simply broken Message-ID: FYI, there's an interesting thread ongoing in debian.users.kde. Here's the guy's list of issues: http://dgwiki.dingogully.com.au/Jedd/Excogitations/IT/KDE_4 -- Best, Marc From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Thu May 14 18:16:05 2009 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:16:05 +0100 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905122104.12451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0A4CC9.2080306@gmx.com> <200905131933.33853.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0BB3AE.2010107@gmx.com> <8abf83c20905140515h7508c24fpee88b8cb666de18b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090514191605.364e75fa.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> On Fri, 15 May 2009 01:25:23 +0800 Goh Lip wrote: > I have some questions, please... > > I have 2 GB RAM, had 7.5 GB swap (yes, some time ago partitioned my > disk, thought it safer than sorry, still no regrets, have more disk > space than I could use). > Jaunty 64 > KDE 4.2.3 > Linux 2.6.28-11 > > Noticed at system monitor (always running), that my swap usage is ALWAYS > zero, whatever I do, Gimp, Firefox, Kaffeine all running. > Checked /etc/fstab to make sure swap is there, enabled and on, (swapon > -a); even when flash 10 freezed temporarily firefox, swap is still zero. > Is it because swap is not needed? Can my computer can handle all this > without swap? I also note though, that my RAM is never at 100% and my > processors were never at 100%. (Flash 10 freezes 1 core at 100%, the > other never at 100 %) > Yes you have enough RAM for the system to run with out swap. My 1G system rarely uses swap. > Next, suspend to disk, (now I know the distinction from suspend to RAM, > thanks). Are they useful only for laptops, where battery conservation is > desired? What purpose would it serve for desktops? > > Indeed, if we have suspend to RAM in laptops, what advantage would > suspend to disk have? Won't battery consumption be lower if disk is > actually off? > > I’ve never used suspend so don’t really know much about it. -- Steve From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Thu May 14 18:19:50 2009 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:19:50 +0100 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905141957.37648.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <8abf83c20905140515h7508c24fpee88b8cb666de18b@mail.gmail.com> <200905141957.37648.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20090514191950.1d0149dd.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> On Thu, 14 May 2009 19:57:37 +0200 Nils Kassube wrote: > Goh Lip wrote: > > I have 2 GB RAM, had 7.5 GB swap (yes, some time ago partitioned my > > disk, thought it safer than sorry, still no regrets, have more disk > > space than I could use). > > Jaunty 64 > > KDE 4.2.3 > > Linux 2.6.28-11 > > > > Noticed at system monitor (always running), that my swap usage is > > ALWAYS zero, whatever I do, Gimp, Firefox, Kaffeine all running. > > Checked /etc/fstab to make sure swap is there, enabled and on, > > (swapon -a); even when flash 10 freezed temporarily firefox, swap is > > still zero. Is it because swap is not needed? > > Yes, you have a lot more RAM than necessary to run those few apps. Same > here BTW. > > > Next, suspend to disk, (now I know the distinction from suspend to > > RAM, thanks). Are they useful only for laptops, where battery > > conservation is desired? What purpose would it serve for desktops? > > My desktop doesn't support suspend to RAM but suspend to disk. If I want > to suspend I only have this one option. > > > Indeed, if we have suspend to RAM in laptops, what advantage would > > suspend to disk have? Won't battery consumption be lower if disk is > > actually off? > > Suspend to disk means that the entire machine is switched off (including > disk) after the memory contents is written to disk. OTOH, suspend to RAM > means that there is still some power needed to keep the RAM alive. > > That’s what I suspected. So what does 'save session for future logins' do, is it the same as suspend to disk? -- Steve From g.lip at gmx.com Thu May 14 18:22:13 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 02:22:13 +0800 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905141957.37648.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <8abf83c20905140515h7508c24fpee88b8cb666de18b@mail.gmail.com> <200905141957.37648.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils Kassube wrote: > Goh Lip wrote: >> I have 2 GB RAM, had 7.5 GB swap (yes, some time ago partitioned my >> disk, thought it safer than sorry, still no regrets, have more disk >> space than I could use). >> Jaunty 64 >> KDE 4.2.3 >> Linux 2.6.28-11 >> >> Noticed at system monitor (always running), that my swap usage is >> ALWAYS zero, whatever I do, Gimp, Firefox, Kaffeine all running. >> Checked /etc/fstab to make sure swap is there, enabled and on, >> (swapon -a); even when flash 10 freezed temporarily firefox, swap is >> still zero. Is it because swap is not needed? > > Yes, you have a lot more RAM than necessary to run those few apps. Same > here BTW. > >> Next, suspend to disk, (now I know the distinction from suspend to >> RAM, thanks). Are they useful only for laptops, where battery >> conservation is desired? What purpose would it serve for desktops? > > My desktop doesn't support suspend to RAM but suspend to disk. If I want > to suspend I only have this one option. > >> Indeed, if we have suspend to RAM in laptops, what advantage would >> suspend to disk have? Won't battery consumption be lower if disk is >> actually off? > > Suspend to disk means that the entire machine is switched off (including > disk) after the memory contents is written to disk. OTOH, suspend to RAM > means that there is still some power needed to keep the RAM alive. > > > Nils > > Thanks Nils, it's good to have confirmation, so, if someone, like me finds no use for 'suspend to disk', on a desktop, or even on a laptop, while 'suspend to RAM' is okay, say taking a 5 to 10 min break; and any longer breaks like 30 mins would prefer to shut down completely and restart slightly longer than "suspend to disk', it would not serve much purpose to have a huge swap partition? Of course, if his computer can handle it. Naturally, hard disk space is so big now it doesn't matter to have a good sized swap, in case somebody has found some more interesting things to use it for. Thanks again for your feedback. Appreciate it. Regards, Goh Lip Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal and a good woman - or a bad woman. It depends on how much happiness you can handle. - - - George Burns From g.lip at gmx.com Thu May 14 18:58:41 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 02:58:41 +0800 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <20090514191950.1d0149dd.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <8abf83c20905140515h7508c24fpee88b8cb666de18b@mail.gmail.com> <200905141957.37648.kassube@gmx.net> <20090514191950.1d0149dd.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> Message-ID: Steve wrote: > That’s what I suspected. So what does 'save session for future logins' do, is it the same as suspend to disk? > Hi Steve, don't see the 'save session for future logins' in the logout options, but is it there in the PC-linux you are using? Can you let us know what it does? But that's on KDE 3.5, right? or is it Gnome? Why don't you try it out and let us know. Regards, Goh Lip From gmane at auxbuss.com Thu May 14 19:04:35 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <15edeae40905120437q2578fd74wfc3267b94785c8a4@mail.gmail.com> <1242288148.1133.451.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <200905141133.46151.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: Gene Heskett said: > On Thursday 14 May 2009, Ric Moore wrote: >>On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 14:37 +0300, Willy Hamra wrote: >>> 2009/5/9 Ric Moore : >>> > On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 08:15 +0000, marc wrote: >>> >> Ric Moore said: >>> >> > But this may shed some light... When I worked at RedHat, I could >>> >> > never get my Ex's printer to work. Darn embarrassing to be on the >>> >> > Help Desk fixing everyone elses printers. We had one whizbang >>> >> > that fired up emacs, had ten terminals with code pouring down the >>> >> > screens like the matrix. Impressed me! Then he started narrowing >>> >> > down the problem to samba not being configured correctly. I'm >>> >> > going she doesn't NEED Samba and I ripped it out. The printer >>> >> > worked right off. Samba was trying to network a printer that >>> >> > hadn't been configured correctly for the system. The cart before >>> >> > the horse, so to speak. You can rip out Samba, after saving >>> >> > config files if you need it or rip it out for good if you don't >>> >> > need it. One less thing in the way. >>> >> >>> >> I'll give that a spin. Thanks. >>> > >>> > Let us know how it works. I later re-installed Samba on her machine >>> > and it picked up on the local printer it found and configured it for >>> > use easily. I guess it needs to be configured locally before the >>> > install of samba. It would be interesting if this was indeed the >>> > case. Good Luck! Ric >>> >>> my samsung ML-1610 works out of the box in jaunty, it got recognized >>> right away and auto-configured while installing jaunty alpha-3 or 4, >>> cant remember from an alternate CD. and in all previous versions, >>> using http://localhost:631 always opens up a CUSP page, and the >>> printer can always be found by the detect new printer functionality, >>> which configures the printer way easier than add a new printer. and >>> yes, my printer is USB as well. >>> can you make sure the printer is detected by the system? i'm no lspci >>> or lsusb or whatever expert, but kinfocenter/USB should point you in >>> the right direction if the printer is seen or not. >> >>Samba will steal it and put permissions to it. I know that one from hard >>experience as I noted. I'd really like to know how this turns out. :) > That secret is to remove an printers section in the smb.conf. Nuke it > totally. In all machines. We have a winnner! All I did was nuke the [printers] section in smb.comf and restart samba. Then, when I ran system-config-printer, it found it and installed it. I would love to test it, but the yellow ink pot is now dry, and with these KDE4-style printers (i.e. huge regressions) the thing will not print until I install a new one... even though there is a separate black- only pot, which is full and all that is needed. I'll post an update when I can find some new ink! -- Best, Marc From kassube at gmx.net Thu May 14 20:02:35 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:02:35 +0200 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <20090514191950.1d0149dd.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905141957.37648.kassube@gmx.net> <20090514191950.1d0149dd.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> Message-ID: <200905142202.35528.kassube@gmx.net> Steve wrote: > That’s what I suspected. So what does 'save session for future > logins' do, is it the same as suspend to disk? I'm not really sure but I suppose it saves only your current session but not the state of other programs which are not part of the session. That would be something like a partial suspend to disk but it is saved to your home directory not to the swap partition. Nils From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Thu May 14 20:13:15 2009 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:13:15 +0100 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <8abf83c20905140515h7508c24fpee88b8cb666de18b@mail.gmail.com> <200905141957.37648.kassube@gmx.net> <20090514191950.1d0149dd.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> Message-ID: <20090514211315.daa4692f.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> On Fri, 15 May 2009 02:58:41 +0800 Goh Lip wrote: > Steve wrote: > > > That’s what I suspected. So what does 'save session for future logins' do, is it the same as suspend to disk? > > > > Hi Steve, don't see the 'save session for future logins' in the logout > options, but is it there in the PC-linux you are using? Can you let us > know what it does? But that's on KDE 3.5, right? or is it Gnome? > > Why don't you try it out and let us know. > > Regards, > Goh Lip > There appears to be two Steve(n)s on this thread. I’m the one that hasn’t used PC-Linux ;-) 'Save session for future logins' is one the logout screen in Xfce and does as it says. In Gnome it is hidden (used to be on the logout screen) under: System > Preferences > Startup Applications > Options and is called 'Automatically remember running applications when logging out' and, again, does as it says. If you check the box whatever programs etc. are running when you switch off run when you switch back on. -- Steve From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu May 14 21:02:26 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:02:26 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <20090514211315.daa4692f.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <20090514211315.daa4692f.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> Message-ID: <200905141702.26978.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Thursday 14 May 2009 04:13:15 pm Steve wrote: > On Fri, 15 May 2009 02:58:41 +0800 > > Goh Lip wrote: > > Steve wrote: > > > That’s what I suspected. So what does 'save session for future logins' > > > do, is it the same as suspend to disk? > > > > Hi Steve, don't see the 'save session for future logins' in the logout > > options, but is it there in the PC-linux you are using? Can you let us > > know what it does? But that's on KDE 3.5, right? or is it Gnome? > > > > Why don't you try it out and let us know. > > > > Regards, > > Goh Lip > > There appears to be two Steve(n)s on this thread. I’m the one that hasn’t > used PC-Linux ;-) > > 'Save session for future logins' is one the logout screen in Xfce and does > as it says. > > In Gnome it is hidden (used to be on the logout screen) under: > System > Preferences > Startup Applications > Options > and is called 'Automatically remember running applications when logging > out' and, again, does as it says. > > If you check the box whatever programs etc. are running when you switch off > run when you switch back on. > > > -- > Steve I think another Steve may be posting too. I have interest in suspend to disk in Jaunty; my inquiry may have moved to this response. I just wanted to make sure I have my Swap partition right. My understanding is that when I shut the system completely down using suspend to disk, everything on the desktop resumes in the same position it was when I boot again, and swap is where it comes from. Steven Vollom From rayburke30 at gmail.com Thu May 14 21:24:16 2009 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 07:24:16 +1000 Subject: Fwd: kernel upgrade 2.6.24-23 in Kubuntu 8.0.4 kde 3.5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ray burke Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:10 AM Subject: kernel upgrade 2.6.24-23 in Kubuntu 8.0.4 kde 3.5 To: Kubuntu users forum Anyone help 15/5/09......... I got over the problem of the broken linux-image-generic, and now have installed the updates and usinbg kernel 2.6.24-24, but when I boot up on the grub loader is shows Ubuntu 8.4.02, kernel 2.6.24-24 (generic) Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-24 (recovery console) Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-23 (generic) Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-23 (recovery console) Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-16 (generic) Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-16 (recovery console) memtest 64 other operating systems windows xp pro Now that it is upgraded to tjhe 2.6.24-23, how do I eliminate the other two kernel's ray From ed.lau at mail.ee Thu May 14 21:49:00 2009 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 00:49:00 +0300 Subject: Fwd: kernel upgrade 2.6.24-23 in Kubuntu 8.0.4 kde 3.5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A0C91CC.7030102@mail.ee> > I got over the problem of the broken linux-image-generic, and > now have installed the updates and usinbg kernel 2.6.24-24, > but when I boot up on the grub loader is shows > Ubuntu 8.4.02, kernel 2.6.24-24 (generic) > Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-24 (recovery console) > Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-23 (generic) > Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-23 (recovery console) > Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-16 (generic) > Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-16 (recovery console) > memtest 64 > other operating systems > windows xp pro > > Now that it is upgraded to tjhe 2.6.24-23, how do I > eliminate the other two kernel's Open the terminal Konsole from Main menu under Utilities. You can also open it by pressing ALT+F2 to open Run-window and by typing into field konsole and pressing enter. Then those commands onto command line and press enter after each command. When asking password - type your user password and press enter. I assume you're using that user when installed Kubuntu and then that user is member of admin group and has administration rights. If not, then you have to log in with administrator rights and then type these commands. If you have no admin rights then you just cannot use sudo and do all that. 1) sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst or graphically in KDE (I assume you're using Kubuntu) sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst 2) find the text: # updatedefaultentry=false and change it to # updatedefaultentry=true # alternative=true and change it to # alternative=false # howmany=7 and change it to # howmany=1 Note, that one "#" MUST be in the beginning of row in this section of Grub conf file! There is warning: "## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs" - so I suggest to follow it! comment out the row like this: # other operating systems 3) save (in nano press F3, in Kate CTRL+S) and exit (in nano press F2, in Kate CTRL+Q) 4) sudo update-grub 5) sudo reboot Now I suggest to uninstall old kernels and related components if new kernel is working fine. Use Synaptic, Adept, KPackageKit, APT at command line, etc or other tool to do it. Best Regards, Edmund Laugasson From rayburke30 at gmail.com Thu May 14 22:03:13 2009 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:03:13 +1000 Subject: Fwd: kernel upgrade 2.6.24-23 in Kubuntu 8.0.4 kde 3.5 In-Reply-To: <4A0C91CC.7030102@mail.ee> References: <4A0C91CC.7030102@mail.ee> Message-ID: Edmund, Not sure what you mean by this- "Now I suggest to uninstall old kernels and related components if new kernel is working fine. Use Synaptic, Adept, KPackageKit, APT at command line, etc or other tool to do it." can I use the adept_manager???? ray Ps and this seems very complicated???????? On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Edmund Laugasson wrote: >> I got over the problem of the broken linux-image-generic, and >> now have installed the updates and usinbg kernel 2.6.24-24, >> but when I boot up on the grub loader is shows >> Ubuntu 8.4.02, kernel 2.6.24-24 (generic) >> Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-24 (recovery console) >> Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-23 (generic) >> Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-23 (recovery console) >> Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-16 (generic) >> Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-16 (recovery console) >> memtest 64 >> other operating systems >> windows xp pro >> >> Now that it is upgraded to tjhe 2.6.24-23, how do I >> eliminate the other two kernel's > > Open the terminal Konsole from Main menu under Utilities. You can also open it by pressing ALT+F2 to > open Run-window and by typing into field konsole and pressing enter. Then those commands onto > command line and press enter after each command. When asking password - type your user password and > press enter. I assume you're using that user when installed Kubuntu and then that user is member of > admin group and has administration rights. If not, then you have to log in with administrator rights > and then type these commands. If you have no admin rights then you just cannot use sudo and do all that. > > 1) sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst > or graphically in KDE (I assume you're using Kubuntu) > sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst > > 2) find the text: > # updatedefaultentry=false and change it to # updatedefaultentry=true > # alternative=true and change it to # alternative=false > # howmany=7 and change it to # howmany=1 > > Note, that one "#" MUST be in the beginning of row in this section of Grub conf file! There is > warning: "## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs" - so I suggest to follow it! > > comment out the row like this: > # other operating systems > > 3) save (in nano press F3, in Kate CTRL+S) and exit (in nano press F2, in Kate CTRL+Q) > > 4) sudo update-grub > > 5) sudo reboot > > Now I suggest to uninstall old kernels and related components if new kernel is working fine. Use > Synaptic, Adept, KPackageKit, APT at command line, etc or other tool to do it. > > Best Regards, > Edmund Laugasson > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Thu May 14 22:08:14 2009 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 23:08:14 +0100 Subject: Fwd: kernel upgrade 2.6.24-23 in Kubuntu 8.0.4 kde 3.5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090514230814.e147d5db.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> On Fri, 15 May 2009 07:24:16 +1000 ray burke wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: ray burke > Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:10 AM > Subject: kernel upgrade 2.6.24-23 in Kubuntu 8.0.4 kde 3.5 > To: Kubuntu users forum > > > Anyone help 15/5/09......... > > I got over the problem of the broken linux-image-generic, and > now have installed the updates and usinbg kernel 2.6.24-24, > but when I boot up on the grub loader is shows > > > > > > > > Ubuntu 8.4.02, kernel 2.6.24-24 (generic) > Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-24 (recovery console) > Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-23 (generic) > Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-23 (recovery console) > Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-16 (generic) > Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-16 (recovery console) > memtest 64 > other operating systems > windows xp pro > > Now that it is upgraded to tjhe 2.6.24-23, how do I > eliminate the other two kernel's > sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-16-* sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-24-* if that’s the two you want rid of. I generally keep two kernels just in case an update breaks one or something. -- Steve From rayburke30 at gmail.com Thu May 14 22:19:14 2009 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:19:14 +1000 Subject: Fwd: kernel upgrade 2.6.24-23 in Kubuntu 8.0.4 kde 3.5 In-Reply-To: <20090514230814.e147d5db.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> References: <20090514230814.e147d5db.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> Message-ID: Edmund, No I only want to get rid of the kernel 2.6.24-16 and keep 23 and 24, so I only have to in terminal window "sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-16-" OK ray On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Steve wrote: > On Fri, 15 May 2009 07:24:16 +1000 > ray burke wrote: > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: ray burke >> Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:10 AM >> Subject: kernel upgrade 2.6.24-23 in Kubuntu 8.0.4 kde 3.5 >> To: Kubuntu users forum >> >> >> Anyone help 15/5/09......... >> >> I got over the problem of the broken linux-image-generic, and >> now have installed the updates and usinbg kernel 2.6.24-24, >> but when I boot up on the grub loader is shows >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ubuntu 8.4.02, kernel 2.6.24-24 (generic) >> Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-24 (recovery console) >> Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-23 (generic) >> Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-23 (recovery console) >> Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-16 (generic) >> Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-16 (recovery console) >> memtest 64 >> other operating systems >> windows xp pro >> >> Now that it is upgraded to tjhe 2.6.24-23, how do I >> eliminate the other two kernel's >> > sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-16-* > sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-24-* > > if that’s the two you want rid of.  I generally keep two kernels just in case an update breaks one or something. > > -- > Steve > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From ed.lau at mail.ee Thu May 14 22:42:26 2009 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 01:42:26 +0300 Subject: Fwd: kernel upgrade 2.6.24-23 in Kubuntu 8.0.4 kde 3.5 In-Reply-To: References: <20090514230814.e147d5db.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> Message-ID: <4A0C9E52.8030403@mail.ee> > No I only want to get rid of the kernel 2.6.24-16 and keep 23 and 24, > > so I only have to in terminal window "sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-16-" That's right! sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-16-* You forgot "*" sign at the end but it's very important. I'm not sure this command will work but you can give a try. I use currently Kubuntu 8.04.2 LTS myself. You can found the following packages: linux-headers-2.6.24-16* linux-image-2.6.24-16-* linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16* linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-* These packages are "related components", which may installed in your system. Related means packages, which belongs to kernel and has therefore same beginning in package name: "linux". Certainly, you can use Adept and I also said that. You can use Adept to find these packages and see, what else it finds. Complicated? Please read further: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - here are all those parameters well explained There https://help.ubuntu.com/ - you can search the word grub and see, what it finds. As linux offers much more configuration options and possibilities - this may seem to be complicated. But if you dont' have such possibilities, then you just cannot do anything if needed. This is what Microsoft probably offer to you... Edmund From rayburke30 at gmail.com Thu May 14 22:53:36 2009 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:53:36 +1000 Subject: Fwd: kernel upgrade 2.6.24-23 in Kubuntu 8.0.4 kde 3.5 In-Reply-To: <4A0C9E52.8030403@mail.ee> References: <20090514230814.e147d5db.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> <4A0C9E52.8030403@mail.ee> Message-ID: Edmund, OK thanks will give a try and let ya know of the result ray On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Edmund Laugasson wrote: >> No I only want to get rid of the kernel 2.6.24-16 and keep 23 and 24, >> >> so I only have to in terminal window "sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-16-" > > > That's right! > > sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-16-* > > You forgot "*" sign at the end but it's very important. I'm not sure this command will work but you > can give a try. I use currently Kubuntu 8.04.2 LTS myself. > > > You can found the following packages: > linux-headers-2.6.24-16* > linux-image-2.6.24-16-* > linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16* > linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-* > > These packages are "related components", which may installed in your system. Related means packages, > which belongs to kernel and has therefore same beginning in package name: "linux". > > Certainly, you can use Adept and I also said that. You can use Adept to find these packages and see, > what else it finds. > > Complicated? Please read further: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - here are all those parameters well explained > > There https://help.ubuntu.com/ - you can search the word grub and see, what it finds. > > As linux offers much more configuration options and possibilities - this may seem to be complicated. > But if you dont' have such possibilities, then you just cannot do anything if needed. This is what > Microsoft probably offer to you... > > Edmund > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Thu May 14 22:53:41 2009 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 23:53:41 +0100 Subject: Fwd: kernel upgrade 2.6.24-23 in Kubuntu 8.0.4 kde 3.5 In-Reply-To: References: <20090514230814.e147d5db.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> Message-ID: <20090514235341.2541ff26.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> On Fri, 15 May 2009 08:19:14 +1000 ray burke wrote: > Edmund, > > No I only want to get rid of the kernel 2.6.24-16 and keep 23 and 24, > > so I only have to in terminal window "sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-16-" > OK > > ray > Yep, it will show you what it intends to remove. Something like this:- $ sudo sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.28-12-* [sudo] password for ****: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Note, selecting linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-12-generic for regex ‘2.6.28-12-*’ Note, selecting linux-headers-2.6.28-12 for regex ‘2.6.28-12-*’ Note, selecting linux-image-2.6.28-12-virtual for regex ‘2.6.28-12-*’ Note, selecting linux-headers-2.6.28-12-server for regex ‘2.6.28-12-*’ Note, selecting linux-image-2.6.28-12-server for regex ‘2.6.28-12-*’ Note, selecting linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-12-generic for regex ‘2.6.28-12-*’ Note, selecting linux-image-2.6.28-12-generic for regex ‘2.6.28-12-*’ Note, selecting linux-headers-lbm-2.6.28-12-generic for regex ‘2.6.28-12-*’ Note, selecting linux-headers-lbm-2.6.28-12-server for regex ‘2.6.28-12-*’ Note, selecting linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-12-server for regex ‘2.6.28-12-*’ Note, selecting linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-12-server for regex ‘2.6.28-12-*’ Note, selecting linux-headers-2.6.28-12-generic for regex ‘2.6.28-12-*’ The following packages will be REMOVED linux-headers-2.6.28-12* linux-headers-2.6.28-12-generic* linux-headers-generic* linux-image-2.6.28-12-generic* linux-image-generic* linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-12-generic* linux-restricted-modules-generic* 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 7 to remove and 0 not upgraded. After this operation, 173MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Just make sure it’s only selected 2.6.24-16. If you type it wrong it can select other kernels as well. -- Steve From Grokit at ajinfosearch.com Thu May 14 23:44:52 2009 From: Grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:44:52 -0400 Subject: Fwd: kernel upgrade 2.6.24-23 in Kubuntu 8.0.4 kde 3.5 In-Reply-To: <4A0C91CC.7030102@mail.ee> References: <4A0C91CC.7030102@mail.ee> Message-ID: <200905141944.52764.Grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Thursday 14 May 2009 05:49:00 pm Edmund Laugasson wrote: > 1) sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst > or graphically in KDE (I assume you're using Kubuntu) > sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst _Never_ use sudo with a graphical program. Always use kdesudo in KDE. You can seriously mess up the ownership of the directories and/or files for the program. A non-power user will have a bad time of fixing it. Alan From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Fri May 15 00:02:41 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 20:02:41 -0400 Subject: Install kde 4.2.3 Message-ID: <200905142002.41566.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> I went here: http://www.kubuntu.org/, using both sudo apt-get install and kdesu apt-get install deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main, I got this: steven at Yeshua:~$ sudo apt-get install deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu- ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main [sudo] password for steven: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package deb steven at Yeshua:~$ kdesu apt get install deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu- ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main bash: kdesu: command not found steven at Yeshua:~$ I have tried every way I can think of to Google a site to get kde 4.2.3, and have failed. Where is it located? Thanks! Steven From jongleur at liripipe.com Fri May 15 00:46:32 2009 From: jongleur at liripipe.com (John L Vifian) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:46:32 -0700 Subject: Install kde 4.2.3 In-Reply-To: <200905142002.41566.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905142002.41566.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905141746.32565.jongleur@liripipe.com> On Thursday 14 May 2009 5:02:41 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > I went here: http://www.kubuntu.org/, using both sudo apt-get install and > kdesu apt-get install deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu > jaunty main, I got this: > > steven at Yeshua:~$ sudo apt-get install deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu- > ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main > [sudo] password for steven: > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > E: Couldn't find package deb > steven at Yeshua:~$ kdesu apt get install deb > http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu- ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main > bash: kdesu: command not found > steven at Yeshua:~$ > > I have tried every way I can think of to Google a site to get kde 4.2.3, > and have failed. Where is it located? Thanks! > > Steven Steven the Kubuntu site says: "To install it add this line to your software sources. deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main Then refresh and do a full upgrade." So you need to add the following line to your sources, which are kept in /etc/apt/sources.list. There are many ways of doing this but kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list will work. Add the line "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main" to the end of the file on its own line and save. The run sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade good luck, John Vifian -- Exuberance is better than taste. Gustave Flaubert From claydoh at midmaine.com Fri May 15 02:45:52 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:45:52 -0400 Subject: Share not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905142245.52790.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Thursday 14 May 2009 1:57:50 pm marc wrote: > marc said: > >> Say I want to share ~/Public. I right-click the folder in dolphin and > >> select the Share tab. Then click Configure file sharing... It > >> authenticates, then does nothing. Now, each time I click Configure file > >> sharing... nothing happens. > >> > >> The only message I can find is in auth.log > >> > >> May 14 15:32:10 mote sudo: marc : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/home/marc/ > >> Documents ; USER=root ;COMMAND=/usr/bin/kcmshell4 fileshare > >> > >> /usr/bin/kcmshell4 exists, but the applet being run by kcmshell4 ('fileshare') does not > >> > >> Any ideas? > > hvralpha said: > > Sharing is broken in Kubuntu 9.04 and a bug already registered on that. Not broken, rather not installed (as it probably should be) You need to install kdenetwork-filesharing for the applet, and either samba or nfs for the actual filesharing capabilities > Do you have the ref? > > Please don't break the thread. > > -- > Best, > Marc -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From gene.heskett at verizon.net Fri May 15 03:14:27 2009 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 23:14:27 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: <200905141133.46151.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200905142314.27565.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Thursday 14 May 2009, marc wrote: >Gene Heskett said: >> On Thursday 14 May 2009, Ric Moore wrote: >>>On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 14:37 +0300, Willy Hamra wrote: >>>> 2009/5/9 Ric Moore : >>>> > On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 08:15 +0000, marc wrote: >>>> >> Ric Moore said: >>>> >> > But this may shed some light... When I worked at RedHat, I could >>>> >> > never get my Ex's printer to work. Darn embarrassing to be on the >>>> >> > Help Desk fixing everyone elses printers. We had one whizbang >>>> >> > that fired up emacs, had ten terminals with code pouring down the >>>> >> > screens like the matrix. Impressed me! Then he started narrowing >>>> >> > down the problem to samba not being configured correctly. I'm >>>> >> > going she doesn't NEED Samba and I ripped it out. The printer >>>> >> > worked right off. Samba was trying to network a printer that >>>> >> > hadn't been configured correctly for the system. The cart before >>>> >> > the horse, so to speak. You can rip out Samba, after saving >>>> >> > config files if you need it or rip it out for good if you don't >>>> >> > need it. One less thing in the way. >>>> >> >>>> >> I'll give that a spin. Thanks. >>>> > >>>> > Let us know how it works. I later re-installed Samba on her machine >>>> > and it picked up on the local printer it found and configured it for >>>> > use easily. I guess it needs to be configured locally before the >>>> > install of samba. It would be interesting if this was indeed the >>>> > case. Good Luck! Ric >>>> >>>> my samsung ML-1610 works out of the box in jaunty, it got recognized >>>> right away and auto-configured while installing jaunty alpha-3 or 4, >>>> cant remember from an alternate CD. and in all previous versions, >>>> using http://localhost:631 always opens up a CUSP page, and the >>>> printer can always be found by the detect new printer functionality, >>>> which configures the printer way easier than add a new printer. and >>>> yes, my printer is USB as well. >>>> can you make sure the printer is detected by the system? i'm no lspci >>>> or lsusb or whatever expert, but kinfocenter/USB should point you in >>>> the right direction if the printer is seen or not. >>> >>>Samba will steal it and put permissions to it. I know that one from hard >>>experience as I noted. I'd really like to know how this turns out. :) >> >> That secret is to remove an printers section in the smb.conf. Nuke it >> totally. In all machines. > >We have a winnner! > >All I did was nuke the [printers] section in smb.comf and restart samba. >Then, when I ran system-config-printer, it found it and installed it. > >I would love to test it, but the yellow ink pot is now dry, and with >these KDE4-style printers (i.e. huge regressions) the thing will not >print until I install a new one... even though there is a separate black- >only pot, which is full and all that is needed. So does my now elderly epson C82, but it will not use the last 5% or so of a cartridge since running it dry may total the head.so it blinks the light and won't print till I run mtink and find out which cart of the 4 is nearly dry. But when its working, I can put good paper in it and sell the prints just as if I made them in a darkroom, which I also have extensive experience doing. I'm gonna miss that printer when it finally signs off. 20+ carts per color, and 2 or 3 hundred reams of paper and its still munching right along. So don't blame it on kde4 style printers, its all of them AFAIK. This epson is nearly a decade old, and the Stylus Pro in front of it was the same way in 1994. >I'll post an update when I can find some new ink! Great, I'll be lurking. >-- >Best, >Marc -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) We do not colonize. We conquer. We rule. There is no other way for us. -- Rojan, "By Any Other Name", stardate 4657.5 From paul at lemmons.name Fri May 15 03:43:35 2009 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 20:43:35 -0700 Subject: Web Development Message-ID: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> What tools do folks use for web/php development? I have been using Quanta and am not unhappy with it but visible development seems to have, I hope temporarily, stalled. A quick google search did not show anything else that was promising. 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I have been > using Quanta and am not unhappy with it but visible development > seems to have, I hope temporarily, stalled. A quick google > search did not show anything else that was promising. Just > curious, what, besides Quanta is out there and is anybody > actively using it? Kompozer? (formerly NVU). Kaj Haulrich. -- *** Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer *** ********* Running Linux Kubuntu 9.04 ********* From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 15 06:06:13 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 02:06:13 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905131941.37321.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0ADFC3.6070206@yahoo.it> <13frd6-d2o.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> <200905131941.37321.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1242367574.12248.56.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 19:41 -0400, Steven Vollom wrote: > On Wednesday 13 May 2009 02:11:13 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > > Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > > > I'm wondering if a simpler solution like cron + rsync would do the trick > > > for Steven. > > > > I imagine. I was just off into my own world of wishes :-) > > > > > The backup wouldn't be instantaneous but it could be set to > > > update the backup like every couple of hours; I'm finding rsync very > > > quick for updating only the changes to files, and it can be used locally > > > or over the network. > > > > > > Now the problem is that I know nothing about using cron... > > > > Nothing to it. Use kcron and it takes any difficulty out of the task. I'd > > create a bash script that does what you have already done in a terminal, > > and I'd also invoke that script from /etc/network/if-up.d/ - then you get > > synchronization every time your network comes up _and_ whenever cron runs > > the script. I thought kcron was missing in action?? Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 15 06:16:43 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 02:16:43 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: <200905072208.58285.lisi.reisz@gmail.com> <1241756713.6271.113.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <1241845713.20543.84.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <15edeae40905120437q2578fd74wfc3267b94785c8a4@mail.gmail.com> <1242288148.1133.451.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <1242368203.12248.64.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 08:38 +0000, marc wrote: > Ric Moore said: > > > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 14:37 +0300, Willy Hamra wrote: > >> 2009/5/9 Ric Moore : > >> > On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 08:15 +0000, marc wrote: > >> >> Ric Moore said: > >> > > >> >> > But this may shed some light... When I worked at RedHat, I could > >> >> > never get my Ex's printer to work. Darn embarrassing to be on the > >> >> > Help Desk fixing everyone elses printers. We had one whizbang that > >> >> > fired up emacs, had ten terminals with code pouring down the > >> >> > screens like the matrix. Impressed me! Then he started narrowing > >> >> > down the problem to samba not being configured correctly. I'm > >> >> > going she doesn't NEED Samba and I ripped it out. The printer > >> >> > worked right off. Samba was trying to network a printer that > >> >> > hadn't been configured correctly for the system. The cart before > >> >> > the horse, so to speak. You can rip out Samba, after saving config > >> >> > files if you need it or rip it out for good if you don't need it. > >> >> > One less thing in the way. > >> >> > >> >> I'll give that a spin. Thanks. > >> > > >> > Let us know how it works. I later re-installed Samba on her machine > >> > and it picked up on the local printer it found and configured it for > >> > use easily. I guess it needs to be configured locally before the > >> > install of samba. It would be interesting if this was indeed the > >> > case. Good Luck! Ric > >> > > >> > > >> my samsung ML-1610 works out of the box in jaunty, it got recognized > >> right away and auto-configured while installing jaunty alpha-3 or 4, > >> cant remember from an alternate CD. and in all previous versions, using > >> http://localhost:631 always opens up a CUSP page, and the printer can > >> always be found by the detect new printer functionality, which > >> configures the printer way easier than add a new printer. and yes, my > >> printer is USB as well. > >> can you make sure the printer is detected by the system? i'm no lspci > >> or lsusb or whatever expert, but kinfocenter/USB should point you in > >> the right direction if the printer is seen or not. > > > > Samba will steal it and put permissions to it. I know that one from hard > > experience as I noted. I'd really like to know how this turns out. :) > > Do you know how to get samba to "unsteal" it, without removing samba? Easier to remove samba, see if that was the problem, and re-install it after. Maybe save this for last, when you have nothing else to lose. That's how I fix stuff, I get BOLD when I've come to the point I have nothing to lose. I just tore down a 27hp Kohler engine as I was pretty sure it tossed a rod and that nothing I could do would hurt it further. This is off-topic as anything but did you know that no vertical shaft engine will take a slope more than 22 degrees without pulling air into the oil sump? But, if you figure out what side the sump is located, you can tilt more than 22 degrees to that side as the oil spills over to that side. Tilting the other way, away from the sump is sure fire $2,100 replacement time. I found out the hard way. I guess the moral of the story is that when I had nothing to lose, I tore into it. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 15 06:26:18 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 02:26:18 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: References: <15edeae40905120437q2578fd74wfc3267b94785c8a4@mail.gmail.com> <1242288148.1133.451.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <200905141133.46151.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1242368778.12248.73.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 19:04 +0000, marc wrote: > > That secret is to remove an printers section in the smb.conf. Nuke it > > totally. In all machines. > > We have a winnner! > > All I did was nuke the [printers] section in smb.comf and restart samba. > Then, when I ran system-config-printer, it found it and installed it. > > I would love to test it, but the yellow ink pot is now dry, and with > these KDE4-style printers (i.e. huge regressions) the thing will not > print until I install a new one... even though there is a separate black- > only pot, which is full and all that is needed. > > I'll post an update when I can find some new ink! Ha! Told ya Samba was a printer grabber. The funny thing, according to my experience, was that when samba is installed before the printer is configured, it'll forever hold that printer down. Install the printer first, then samba and that worked. It was embarrassing to be an installation tech support monkey at Red Hat and not be able to make the printer for the love of my life, now Ex, to work. I took the entire system to work and put it all on a table and turned the entire crew loose on it. About half of 'em said "Stand back! I'LL fix it!" The looks on their faces after half a day was priceless. I didn't feel half as dumb. Someone mentioned Samba, I ripped it out, the stupid printer worked. Of course I was the HERO when it came home and worked. This was in 2000, and HER printer had color! Mine was a POS. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 15 06:43:27 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 02:43:27 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <200905142314.27565.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200905141133.46151.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <200905142314.27565.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1242369807.12248.79.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 23:14 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > So don't blame it on kde4 style printers, its all of them AFAIK. This epson > is nearly a decade old, and the Stylus Pro in front of it was the same way in > 1994. My old Teletype 43 and my NEC Spinwriter 5525 could print boxes of printer paper on one cartridge. I almost miss them! http://www.atariarchives.org/bcc3/showpage.php?page=287 Can't find a pic of the Spinwriter! -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From wayward4now at gmail.com Fri May 15 07:00:26 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 03:00:26 -0400 Subject: KDE 4 simply broken In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1242370826.12248.81.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 18:02 +0000, marc wrote: > FYI, there's an interesting thread ongoing in debian.users.kde. > > Here's the guy's list of issues: > > http://dgwiki.dingogully.com.au/Jedd/Excogitations/IT/KDE_4 +100 That was a fine rant! I couldn't have done better. I'm still on KDE3 and nothing is weird. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From tmt at ubuntu.com Fri May 15 07:31:13 2009 From: tmt at ubuntu.com (Jussi Kekkonen) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:31:13 +0300 Subject: KDE 4 simply broken In-Reply-To: <1242370826.12248.81.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <1242370826.12248.81.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <48cc00830905150031x2b5f95bao24d2519886a6b3e1@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/15 Ric Moore : > On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 18:02 +0000, marc wrote: >> FYI, there's an interesting thread ongoing in debian.users.kde. >> >> Here's the guy's list of issues: >> >>   http://dgwiki.dingogully.com.au/Jedd/Excogitations/IT/KDE_4 > +100  That was a fine rant! I couldn't have done better. I'm still on > KDE3 and nothing is weird. > :) Ric > -- > > My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: > "There are two Great Sins in the world... > ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. > Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. > Linux user# 44256 > https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ > Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 > > And then again, noone is stopping _YOU_ using KDE3 and even developing it, whining to KDE developers (no, I don't think you can mean me in this case anyway) when they (we?) like to go forward instead to stall in current/past. Just remember, even KDE is mostly developed by volunteers, so whining and ranting is not encouraging them as much as good positive-toned comments. (: -- Jussi Kekkonen Ubuntu/KDE developer tmt at ubuntu.com Finnish LUG Linux in schools project leader jussi.kekkonen at flug.fi From hvralpha at intekom.co.za Fri May 15 07:55:50 2009 From: hvralpha at intekom.co.za (hvralpha) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 09:55:50 +0200 Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 52, Issue 80 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905150955.50515.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> On Friday 15 May 2009 08:24:40 kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:45:52 -0400 > From: Clay Weber > Subject: Re: Share not working > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <200905142245.52790.claydoh at midmaine.com> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Thursday 14 May 2009 1:57:50 pm marc wrote: > > marc said: > > >> Say I want to share ~/Public. I right-click the folder in dolphin and > > >> select the Share tab. Then click Configure file sharing... It > > >> authenticates, then does nothing. Now, each time I click Configure > > >> file sharing... nothing happens. > > >> > > >> The only message I can find is in auth.log > > >> > > >> May 14 15:32:10 mote sudo: marc : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/home/marc/ > > >> Documents ; USER=root ;COMMAND=/usr/bin/kcmshell4 fileshare > > >> > > >> /usr/bin/kcmshell4 exists, > > but the applet being run by kcmshell4 ('fileshare') does not > > > >> Any ideas? > > > > hvralpha said: > > > Sharing is broken in Kubuntu 9.04 and a bug already registered on that. > > Not broken, rather not installed (as it probably should be) > You need to install kdenetwork-filesharing for the applet, and either samba > or nfs for the actual filesharing capabilities The bug reports is at Bug 373618. There are errors in the samba config file which must be fixed. It does not work in dolphin with the packages above installed. A short term work around is to set the shares up in samba and use smb4k to browse them. > > > Do you have the ref? > > > > Please don't break the thread. > > > > -- > > Best, > > Marc > > -- > Clay Weber > http://kubuntuforums.net > http://flyballmaine.com > http://emacdogsports.com > ------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at dmcentral.net Fri May 15 09:59:03 2009 From: david at dmcentral.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 05:59:03 -0400 Subject: Web Development In-Reply-To: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <200905150559.03763.david@dmcentral.net> On Thursday 14 May 2009 11:43:35 pm Paul Lemmons wrote: > What tools do folks use for web/php development? I have been using > Quanta and am not unhappy with it but visible development seems to have, > I hope temporarily, stalled. A quick google search did not show > anything else that was promising. Just curious, what, besides Quanta is > out there and is anybody actively using it? I use Kdevelop. Blessings, David M. http://www.dmcentral.net From sclewin at sgaming.ca Fri May 15 12:16:12 2009 From: sclewin at sgaming.ca (Scott) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:16:12 -0400 Subject: Web Development In-Reply-To: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <200905150816.12393.sclewin@sgaming.ca> On May 14, 2009 11:43:35 pm Paul Lemmons wrote: > What tools do folks use for web/php development? I have been using > Quanta and am not unhappy with it but visible development seems to have, > I hope temporarily, stalled. A quick google search did not show > anything else that was promising. Just curious, what, besides Quanta is > out there and is anybody actively using it? I'm in the same position as you. I have been using Quanta for a couple years now, but with its stalled development I am disliking it more by the month. At the moment I am still fighting with Quanta, but I am planning on starting to use Kdevelop with the PHP plugin when it is finished. Sadly, it looks like a small while off. You can also take a look at Eclipse. It is a programming IDE, but it haves a website development plugin that is nice. I have thought about using eclipse myself, but there is a few small things I don't like for html and css editing. -- Your friend, Scott http://sgaming.ca Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 9.04 From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri May 15 12:53:24 2009 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 07:53:24 -0500 Subject: Web Development In-Reply-To: <200905150559.03763.david@dmcentral.net> References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> <200905150559.03763.david@dmcentral.net> Message-ID: <4A0D65C4.5060009@swbell.net> David McGlone wrote: > On Thursday 14 May 2009 11:43:35 pm Paul Lemmons wrote: > >> What tools do folks use for web/php development? I have been using >> Quanta and am not unhappy with it but visible development seems to have, >> I hope temporarily, stalled. A quick google search did not show >> anything else that was promising. Just curious, what, besides Quanta is >> out there and is anybody actively using it? >> > > I use Kdevelop. > > Blessings, > David M. > http://www.dmcentral.net > > I've seen Kdevelop mentioned before. But when I look at it I see: KDevelop is an easy to use integrated development environment for KDE. It supports a wide range of programming languages and features project management, an advanced editor, a class browser and an integrated debugger. It looks to me more like it's a development package meant more for programmers. [ okay, okay, - I realize that html is a programming language in it's own way ] Something more for C or one of the others. I haven't tried it for that reason. -- Treat all stressful situations like a dog does. If you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri May 15 12:58:32 2009 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 07:58:32 -0500 Subject: Web Development In-Reply-To: <200905150816.12393.sclewin@sgaming.ca> References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> <200905150816.12393.sclewin@sgaming.ca> Message-ID: <4A0D66F8.8020202@swbell.net> Scott wrote: > On May 14, 2009 11:43:35 pm Paul Lemmons wrote: > >> What tools do folks use for web/php development? I have been >> > using > >> Quanta and am not unhappy with it but visible development seems >> > to have, > >> I hope temporarily, stalled. A quick google search did not show >> anything else that was promising. Just curious, what, besides >> > Quanta is > >> out there and is anybody actively using it? >> > I'm in the same position as you. I have been using Quanta for a > couple years now, but with its stalled development I am disliking it > more by the month. At the moment I am still fighting with Quanta, but > I am planning on starting to use Kdevelop with the PHP plugin when it > is finished. Sadly, it looks like a small while off. I was told on the Quanta list that someone is supposedly working on an update for Quanta. -- Treat all stressful situations like a dog does. If you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away From eamner at yahoo.com Fri May 15 13:13:39 2009 From: eamner at yahoo.com (Eric Marquez) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 06:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Random freezes in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <981099.76895.qm@web53306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello. I'm here again...  I tried Steven's suggestion placing the "pci=nomsi" option in the grub. Didn't work. At first I was excited because the first night nothing happened, but the next day, it was freezing again.  I'll try to reformat my computer this weekend to change the filesystem to ext4... nothing to loose. Otherwise I'm afraid I'll just have to wait until I can buy a new computer.  I wish at least there was some kind of log that would point me to the cause of the problem. Greetings, Eric. http://eamner.hispasonicos.com  Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:07:39 +0300 From: Willy Hamra Subject: Re: Random freezes in Kubuntu To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Message-ID:     <15edeae40905120407o187d092eoed02cbf32619a54b at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2009/5/11 Eric Marquez : > @Steven: > Thanks for your answer. And thanks for the tip, I'll try it. Where exactly > should I place that line (pci=nomsi )? do you mean in the Grub menu? > > @Ric: > ?Thanks for your answer... your approach is interesting but, if the problem > should be Power Supply, why doesn't it happen in Windows (remember I have a > dual boot), and why didn't it happen when I had kde3? > > @Lamanary Ramos de Pina: > ?Lamanary: thanks for the link. It's very interesting and it's the first > time I see this problem categorized as Bug. All the descriptions of the > problem are not exactly as mine, so I'm not sure that's exactly my case, but > anyway I'll subscribe to that bug and try to participate. I'll do anything > to solve this problem. > > from my experience with computers, though you said windows and KDE3 were fine, is that such freezes occur with hardware problems concerning hard disk drives and CD drives. my computer for instance, freezes completely if i insert a damage or scratched CD, nothing, even ther mouse stops moving until i click eject. since i do a lot of maintenance for people, i attack foreign hard disks a lot to my system, sometime SATA sometime the old PATA, in both cases, a hard disk with some bad sectors, connector probrlms orany kind of misbehaving, generaly stuff that lets the HD take a long time to respond (if it ever responded) freezes the whole system till the response is given, and in many times, to save my system (i know it's very unrecommended)  i just resort to unplugging the hard disk from the board connectors to be able to get my system back and shut it down properly. your problem could be totally unrelated to this kind of hardware issues, but for a start to diagnose, are you using the same hard disk, same partition as when you were using KDE3? hope this helps -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net. ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=mx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From seakat at orange.fr Fri May 15 14:14:46 2009 From: seakat at orange.fr (Seakat) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:14:46 +0200 Subject: KDE4 and Konsole Message-ID: <4A0D78D6.9000606@orange.fr> Hi, After upgrading to KDE4 in Jaunty, the Console (Konsole) just comes up with a plain screen, and I can't type anything on it. I've playing with the Configuration menu, and added new profiles, but the problem persists. Any ideas, anyone? From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Fri May 15 14:18:11 2009 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:18:11 +0100 Subject: Web Development In-Reply-To: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <200905151518.11872.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Friday 15 May 2009 04:43:35 Paul Lemmons wrote: > What tools do folks use for web/php development? I have been using > Quanta and am not unhappy with it but visible development seems to have, > I hope temporarily, stalled. A quick google search did not show > anything else that was promising. Just curious, what, besides Quanta is > out there and is anybody actively using it? I do all my php/html in KWrite. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From mkhaos7 at gmail.com Fri May 15 14:24:26 2009 From: mkhaos7 at gmail.com (Antonio Augusto (Mancha)) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:24:26 -0300 Subject: KDE4 and Konsole In-Reply-To: <4A0D78D6.9000606@orange.fr> References: <4A0D78D6.9000606@orange.fr> Message-ID: <4c6e034d0905150724i69ea2d1v61f9312d92300f0b@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:14, Seakat wrote: > Hi, > After upgrading to KDE4 in Jaunty, the Console (Konsole) just comes up > with a plain screen, and I can't type anything on it. > I've playing with the Configuration menu, and added new profiles, but > the problem persists. Any ideas, anyone? > Usually this indicates a problem with the pts filesystem not being mounted and was discussed some time ago. Some people found a workaround by putting an entry in /etc/fstab. Try searching the archives to see how to do this. Cheers From khj at cs.appstate.edu Fri May 15 14:59:02 2009 From: khj at cs.appstate.edu (Kenneth Jacker) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:59:02 -0400 Subject: Optiplex Session Logout --> No KDM/X11 Message-ID: <87iqk22z0p.fsf@be.cs.appstate.edu> [ Dell Optiplex 755; ATI RV610 (Radeon HD 2400 XT); Kubuntu 9.04 ] Whenever I "logout" of my GUI session, I am returned to a virtual console (i.e., X11 is *gone*). I can run 'startx' to restore the prior session, but logging out again returns me to a console (I, in fact, am never really logged out). Searching archives, I've found others reporting similar problems (but mainly involving multiple monitors). I could find no real "solution". The end of "Xorg.0.log" contains this: Backtrace: 0: /usr/bin/X(xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x813518b] 1: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x55) [0x80c7be5] 2: [0xb80e0400] 3: /usr/bin/X [0x817fca2] 4: /usr/bin/X [0x8180d4f] 5: /usr/bin/X(CreateDefaultStipple+0x10b) [0x809f93b] 6: /usr/bin/X(main+0x266) [0x8072196] 7: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe5) [0xb7cb3775] 8: /usr/bin/X [0x80717a1] ===> Saw signal 11. Server aborting. Output DFP2 disable success Blank CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC 0 success Blank CRTC 1 success Disable CRTC 1 success (II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() : (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0x00df00d0 0x00df00d0 (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x00000000 (II) RADEON(0): avivo_restore ! Enable CRTC 0 success Unblank CRTC 0 success ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log Prior to the 9.04 install, the machine was running 8.04 and it worked better. When I logged out, I saw a "garbled" screen and could restart X11 using C-A-. Even that functionality has now gone away. Is anyone successfully using Jaunty on a Optiplex 755 with the Radeon board?? Thanks for you comments/suggestions! -- Prof Kenneth H Jacker khj at cs.appstate.edu Computer Science Dept www.cs.appstate.edu/~khj Appalachian State Univ Boone, NC 28608 USA From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 15 15:08:39 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Chakra Message-ID: Just wondered if anyone had tried the new kid on the block, Chakra, Arch Linux with KDE (supporting KDE3 and KDE4). http://chakra-project.org/ -- Best, Marc "Big change requires small steps." From myriam at ubuntu.com Fri May 15 15:15:33 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:15:33 +0200 Subject: Wallpaper for each desktop In-Reply-To: <94b29c3f0905140158i33aa9141sa5b92f32444b316@mail.gmail.com> References: <999122.1571.qm@web65409.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94b29c3f0905140158i33aa9141sa5b92f32444b316@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:58, Florian Jacquemet wrote: > samuel obirieze wrote: > > How do i put a different wall paper for each desktop. > > > It'll be great on kde4! Has someone an idea?? That should be doable in the future, just stay tuned for the future KDE 4 version. For now, you can add desktop activities with different backgrounds, widgets, etc. by choosing the 'cashew'-shaped Icon on the upper right on your desktop. You will have to unlock the widgets first, of course. Don't forget to add the 'Activity Bar' widget so you can switch easily from one activity to another. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Fri May 15 15:28:46 2009 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal.roade at googlemail.com) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:28:46 +0100 Subject: how to reuse ntfs partition? Message-ID: <200905151628.46252.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Am running Kubuntu 8.10 with all updates. I have a 70gb ntfs partition that is the first partition of my hard drive and I want to use it for Linux. I have several existing Linux partitions. All the partitions including some I've added manually are mounted using the UUID and not the /dev/[device name] method. (see fstab below) I am guessing that the ntfs partition is sda1 (not listed below). Can I delete this ntfs partition and reuse the space as an ext 2 or 3 partition and put another linux on it **without upsetting the existing drive configuration? It looks like this is going to mess up the grub configuration if I change the drive /dev/ references. Do I make the changes and then run update-grub? here is fstab; =============================================== # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # # /dev/sda2 UUID=6d7ae70f-db6f-41c1-8a29-7b478c7eae2c / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1 # /dev/sda5 UUID=1b0b10ef-a3c8-473b-88e5-289a7ef7aa1d /home ext3 relatime 0 2 # /dev/sda6 UUID=24c79330-bf9a-48d1-a5fd-94753e6d8ed0 none swap sw 0 0 # /dev/sda7 UUID=4bb11f5b-2e47-4be8-b028-687e7cfcba96 /mnt/music ext2 relatime,users 0 2 # /dev/sda8 UUID=415be995-b383-4002-b703-f9f1892a5ce1 /mnt/vb_Disk_2 ext2 relatime,users 0 2 # /dev/sda9 UUID=280686a1-f9f5-4296-bb25-8ff64402d662 /mnt/sabayon ext2 relatime,users 0 2 =============================================== nepal. From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Fri May 15 15:31:44 2009 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:31:44 -0700 Subject: CPU temp Message-ID: <200905150831.48709.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> I've had something strange happening the past couple of days. My CPU temp normally runs at 46-49 C but a couple days ago the fan went on full and the temp went to 84 C which I think is not good, and did not come back down. Running top shows python taking 100% of CPU. Looking at the logs does not seem to say any error, or at least I can't spot any. I don't know what called python or what was running any differently than usual. Running 8.04 KDE 3.5.10 T5450 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 Gig memory. Anyone have any idea about what is causing this? -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From myriam at ubuntu.com Fri May 15 15:36:00 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:36:00 +0200 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <1242367574.12248.56.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0ADFC3.6070206@yahoo.it> <13frd6-d2o.ln1@morgen.pointerstop.ca> <200905131941.37321.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <1242367574.12248.56.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: Hi RIc, On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 08:06, Ric Moore wrote: > I thought kcron was missing in action?? Ric No, it is not, it's just not an application you can start by simply typing it's name alone, but a service. Kcron needs arguments like most services and the runs as a background deamon. BTW, if you go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Task Scheduler, you can configure your local or system wide tasks quite easily through a GUI. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From gene.heskett at verizon.net Fri May 15 16:02:06 2009 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:02:06 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <1242368203.12248.64.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <1242368203.12248.64.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200905151202.06224.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Friday 15 May 2009, Ric Moore wrote: >On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 08:38 +0000, marc wrote: >> Ric Moore said: >> > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 14:37 +0300, Willy Hamra wrote: >> >> 2009/5/9 Ric Moore : >> >> > On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 08:15 +0000, marc wrote: >> >> >> Ric Moore said: >> >> >> > But this may shed some light... When I worked at RedHat, I could >> >> >> > never get my Ex's printer to work. Darn embarrassing to be on the >> >> >> > Help Desk fixing everyone elses printers. We had one whizbang that >> >> >> > fired up emacs, had ten terminals with code pouring down the >> >> >> > screens like the matrix. Impressed me! Then he started narrowing >> >> >> > down the problem to samba not being configured correctly. I'm >> >> >> > going she doesn't NEED Samba and I ripped it out. The printer >> >> >> > worked right off. Samba was trying to network a printer that >> >> >> > hadn't been configured correctly for the system. The cart before >> >> >> > the horse, so to speak. You can rip out Samba, after saving config >> >> >> > files if you need it or rip it out for good if you don't need it. >> >> >> > One less thing in the way. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'll give that a spin. Thanks. >> >> > >> >> > Let us know how it works. I later re-installed Samba on her machine >> >> > and it picked up on the local printer it found and configured it for >> >> > use easily. I guess it needs to be configured locally before the >> >> > install of samba. It would be interesting if this was indeed the >> >> > case. Good Luck! Ric >> >> >> >> my samsung ML-1610 works out of the box in jaunty, it got recognized >> >> right away and auto-configured while installing jaunty alpha-3 or 4, >> >> cant remember from an alternate CD. and in all previous versions, using >> >> http://localhost:631 always opens up a CUSP page, and the printer can >> >> always be found by the detect new printer functionality, which >> >> configures the printer way easier than add a new printer. and yes, my >> >> printer is USB as well. >> >> can you make sure the printer is detected by the system? i'm no lspci >> >> or lsusb or whatever expert, but kinfocenter/USB should point you in >> >> the right direction if the printer is seen or not. >> > >> > Samba will steal it and put permissions to it. I know that one from hard >> > experience as I noted. I'd really like to know how this turns out. :) >> >> Do you know how to get samba to "unsteal" it, without removing samba? > >Easier to remove samba, see if that was the problem, and re-install it >after. Huge overkill Ric. sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf and comment out or remove the printers section. Then create an /etc/cups/client.conf file with one active line: ------------------- # Client.conf ServerName coyote.coyote.den ------------------- That is an FQDN in my case, or the ipv4 address of the server is known to work. My small network uses host files, not dhcp, so the addresses are all stable addresses. Restart both nmbd and smbd, then cups. Any printers located or accessed by $ServerName should now be visible at http://localhost:631/printers, and usable with nothing more complex then an 'lpr [-Pprintername] file-to-print' >Maybe save this for last, when you have nothing else to lose. That's how >I fix stuff, I get BOLD when I've come to the point I have nothing to >lose. I just tore down a 27hp Kohler engine as I was pretty sure it >tossed a rod and that nothing I could do would hurt it further. > >This is off-topic as anything but did you know that no vertical shaft >engine will take a slope more than 22 degrees without pulling air into >the oil sump? But, if you figure out what side the sump is located, you >can tilt more than 22 degrees to that side as the oil spills over to >that side. Tilting the other way, away from the sump is sure fire $2,100 >replacement time. I found out the hard way. I guess the moral of >the story is that when I had nothing to lose, I tore into it. Ric That 22 degrees is an arbitrary limit, depending on the engine model and maker. Generally a tossed rod=large hole in the side of the case. In fact I consider that prima faci evidence of such. I believe the applicable phrase when talking about an auto engine is "and the pan wasn't big enough for all the parts. :-) -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) So what is the best way to protect yourself against the ILOVEYOU virus? Install Linux. If that's not an option, try uninstalling Windows. -- Geoff Johnson From gene.heskett at verizon.net Fri May 15 16:14:36 2009 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:14:36 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? In-Reply-To: <1242369807.12248.79.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <200905142314.27565.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1242369807.12248.79.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200905151214.36899.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Friday 15 May 2009, Ric Moore wrote: >On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 23:14 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> So don't blame it on kde4 style printers, its all of them AFAIK. This >> epson is nearly a decade old, and the Stylus Pro in front of it was the >> same way in 1994. > >My old Teletype 43 and my NEC Spinwriter 5525 could print boxes of >printer paper on one cartridge. I almost miss them! >http://www.atariarchives.org/bcc3/showpage.php?page=287 >Can't find a pic of the Spinwriter! IIRC that TT-43 used a fabric cartridge ribbon and I know the Spinwriter did. I still have a Xerox 1650-ro, but it uses a film cartridge and there are no cartridges in the pipeline today that haven't been stored in a Mexican Warehouse for 20 years, so now they print one character per cartridge as the first strike on the daisy shatters the film. Great old printer in its day, at 40cps was the fastest daisy wheel ever made, although you had to screw AND glue the cart it sat on if you didn't want the cart to self destruct, the full 18" carriage return was 200 milliseconds. But it can have an afterlife too, as it would make a great boat anchor. :) But that seems a rather ignominious end for a great printer. :( -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) I do not know myself and God forbid that I should. -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Fri May 15 16:34:10 2009 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:34:10 +0100 Subject: Chakra In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090515173410.6e81974e.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> On Fri, 15 May 2009 15:08:39 +0000 (UTC) marc wrote: M> Just wondered if anyone had tried the new kid on the block, Chakra, M> Arch Linux with KDE (supporting KDE3 and KDE4). M> M> http://chakra-project.org/ M> OT: But - Chakra is KDE4 based (the same team do do KDE3.5 packages for Arch). It also adds a graphical installer (which is a bit lumpy right now, but that's to be expected of an Alpha), and possibly one of the nicest package managers in the game (shaman -- it seems to combine the best of synaptic and adept (KDE3). I don't have an installation right now, so I don't know what the current state is. -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From paul at lemmons.name Fri May 15 17:06:07 2009 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:06:07 -0700 Subject: Web Development In-Reply-To: <200905150559.03763.david@dmcentral.net> References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> <200905150559.03763.david@dmcentral.net> Message-ID: <4A0DA0FF.6030208@lemmons.name> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:Web Development From: David McGlone To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Date: 05/15/2009 02:59 AM > On Thursday 14 May 2009 11:43:35 pm Paul Lemmons wrote: > >> What tools do folks use for web/php development? I have been using >> Quanta and am not unhappy with it but visible development seems to have, >> I hope temporarily, stalled. A quick google search did not show >> anything else that was promising. Just curious, what, besides Quanta is >> out there and is anybody actively using it? >> > > I use Kdevelop. > > Blessings, > David M. > http://www.dmcentral.net > > Tell me more. I looked at kdevelop and it does not appear to be geared towards web development. Do you use it to develop web pages with PHP and JavaScript? -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Yup, mildly OT, but interesting given the current move to kde4, I think. I gave the live cd a spin and it loaded on machines that jaunty fails on. It's fast, which seems to be due to being compiled for 686 + extensions. It also ran my video cards without problems; something that I have a bug outstanding for, so I'll bring the .conf into kubuntu to see what happens. I like the package manger too. Aptitude and synaptic are big pluses for debian-based systems, but this seems to match them. It reminded me of when I first loaded badger and everything worked! -- Best, Marc "Big change requires small steps." From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 15 20:27:23 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Share not working References: <200905142245.52790.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: Clay Weber said: > On Thursday 14 May 2009 1:57:50 pm marc wrote: >> marc said: >> >> Say I want to share ~/Public. I right-click the folder in dolphin >> >> and select the Share tab. Then click Configure file sharing... It >> >> authenticates, then does nothing. Now, each time I click Configure >> >> file sharing... nothing happens. >> >> >> >> The only message I can find is in auth.log >> >> >> >> May 14 15:32:10 mote sudo: marc : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/home/marc/ >> >> Documents ; USER=root ;COMMAND=/usr/bin/kcmshell4 fileshare >> >> >> >> /usr/bin/kcmshell4 exists, > > but the applet being run by kcmshell4 ('fileshare') does not >> >> >> >> Any ideas? >> >> hvralpha said: >> > Sharing is broken in Kubuntu 9.04 and a bug already registered on >> > that. > Not broken, rather not installed (as it probably should be) You need to > install kdenetwork-filesharing for the applet, and either samba or nfs > for the actual filesharing capabilities This didn't work for me; the behaviour is the same. I have samba installed. -- Best, Marc "Big change requires small steps." From claydoh at midmaine.com Fri May 15 20:42:27 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (clay weber) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:42:27 -0400 Subject: KDE 4 simply broken In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A0DD3B3.8030508@midmaine.com> marc wrote: > FYI, there's an interesting thread ongoing in debian.users.kde. > > Here's the guy's list of issues: > > http://dgwiki.dingogully.com.au/Jedd/Excogitations/IT/KDE_4 > A lot of these issues listed are either fixed already or don't exist in Kubuntu (the author is using Debian Unstable after all). And some are (at least imo) features that were seldom utilized by great numbers of users. Using the topic title that "KDE4 simply broken" is just plain silly. "I don't care for KDE4" is rather more accurate, useful and honest. Clay Weber From claydoh at midmaine.com Fri May 15 20:51:12 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (clay weber) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:51:12 -0400 Subject: KDE 4 simply broken In-Reply-To: <4A0D8A43.7050806@comcast.net> References: <1242370826.12248.81.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <48cc00830905150031x2b5f95bao24d2519886a6b3e1@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D8A43.7050806@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A0DD5C0.4040202@midmaine.com> Ian L. Target wrote: > Jussi Kekkonen wrote: >> it, whining to KDE developers (no, I don't think you can mean me in >> this case anyway) when they (we?) like to go forward instead to stall >> in current/past. >> >> Just remember, even KDE is mostly developed by volunteers, so whining >> and ranting is not encouraging them as much as good positive-toned >> comments. (: >> >> > > Constructive criticism does not equal whining. > > Ian > > But, for example, the title of this thread could be viewed as ranting/whining, while the article linked could be viewed as constructive. Clay Weber From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 15 20:52:19 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Web Development References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> Message-ID: Paul Lemmons said: > What tools do folks use for web/php development? I have been using > Quanta and am not unhappy with it but visible development seems to have, > I hope temporarily, stalled. A quick google search did not show > anything else that was promising. Just curious, what, besides Quanta is > out there and is anybody actively using it? Netbeans. It's progressed enormously in the areas of php, javascript and html. No "visual editing" though, if that's your thing - although will launch a page in your browser. But with excellent code completion and css management - which is visual, if you need it. It has good integration with svn too, although lacks git, which is coming; it has cvs and mercurial too, but also has a wicked local history. If you need server side debug with xdebug, then it'll do that too. I was using Eclipse for Java, then started using Netbeans for Ruby. As the PHP stuff developed, I moved over completely. The repos have v6.5, which is a good version. -- Best, Marc "Big change requires small steps." From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 15 20:54:48 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? References: <15edeae40905120437q2578fd74wfc3267b94785c8a4@mail.gmail.com> <1242288148.1133.451.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <200905141133.46151.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1242368778.12248.73.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: Ric Moore said: > On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 19:04 +0000, marc wrote: > >> > That secret is to remove an printers section in the smb.conf. Nuke >> > it totally. In all machines. >> >> We have a winnner! >> >> All I did was nuke the [printers] section in smb.comf and restart >> samba. Then, when I ran system-config-printer, it found it and >> installed it. >> >> I would love to test it, but the yellow ink pot is now dry, and with >> these KDE4-style printers (i.e. huge regressions) the thing will not >> print until I install a new one... even though there is a separate >> black- only pot, which is full and all that is needed. >> >> I'll post an update when I can find some new ink! > > Ha! Told ya Samba was a printer grabber. The funny thing, according to > my experience, was that when samba is installed before the printer is > configured, it'll forever hold that printer down. Install the printer > first, then samba and that worked. It was embarrassing to be an > installation tech support monkey at Red Hat and not be able to make the > printer for the love of my life, now Ex, to work. I took the entire > system to work and put it all on a table and turned the entire crew > loose on it. About half of 'em said "Stand back! I'LL fix it!" The looks > on their faces after half a day was priceless. I didn't feel half as > dumb. Someone mentioned Samba, I ripped it out, the stupid printer > worked. Of course I was the HERO when it came home and worked. This was > in 2000, and HER printer had color! Mine was a POS. :) Ric Well, that gave me a laugh. I'll remember how much effort went into fixing my problem. -- Best, Marc "Big change requires small steps." From christopher.rob.jones at cern.ch Fri May 15 21:01:35 2009 From: christopher.rob.jones at cern.ch (Chris Jones) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:01:35 +0100 Subject: KDE 4 simply broken In-Reply-To: <4A0D8A43.7050806@comcast.net> References: <1242370826.12248.81.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <48cc00830905150031x2b5f95bao24d2519886a6b3e1@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D8A43.7050806@comcast.net> Message-ID: >> > > Constructive criticism does not equal whining. How is a thread named "KDE 4 simply broken" constructive ? Chris From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 15 21:14:58 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: KDE 4 simply broken References: <1242370826.12248.81.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <48cc00830905150031x2b5f95bao24d2519886a6b3e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jussi Kekkonen said: > 2009/5/15 Ric Moore : >> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 18:02 +0000, marc wrote: >>> FYI, there's an interesting thread ongoing in debian.users.kde. >>> >>> Here's the guy's list of issues: >>> >>>   http://dgwiki.dingogully.com.au/Jedd/Excogitations/IT/KDE_4 >> +100  That was a fine rant! I couldn't have done better. I'm still on >> KDE3 and nothing is weird. >> :) Ric >> -- >> >> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in >> the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the >> former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 >> https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ >> Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 >> >> >> > And then again, noone is stopping _YOU_ using KDE3 and even developing > it I was done with c++ two decades ago :-) And I do develop. Still, where would the devs be if we didn't test the new stuff and raise bugs on it. Make your minds up! Do you want to know about issue or not? > whining to KDE developers (no, I don't think you can mean me in this > case anyway) when they (we?) like to go forward instead to stall in > current/past. Woah! Political answer. Also, where I come from claiming someone is whining is hugely insulting. It basically means that you heard someone's argument and have no respect for the argument nor for the individual that made it; it has a different context when said to a child. It's an unnecessary insult, and it undermines _you_ a great deal. > Just remember, even KDE is mostly developed by volunteers, so whining > and ranting is not encouraging them as much as good positive-toned > comments. (: The guy listed the issues that he has with KDE4 in a systematic way; noting fixes and ideas as he went. I'd call that useful info. And remember, he's a volunteer too; as am I and many folk on this list. If you, as a dev, consider his words as a feeble, petulant complaint, then it helps to understand why kde4 is in the mess it's in: namely, you guys don't seem to be listening. There are +ve noises around here, just too few at the moment. Believe me, we'd rather be raving about the awesomeness of it. -- Best, Marc "Big change requires small steps." From nadreck at palain.com Fri May 15 21:35:20 2009 From: nadreck at palain.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:35:20 -0400 Subject: Phonon sound problem? In-Reply-To: References: <49F7AAB8.7010502@palain.com> Message-ID: <4A0DE018.9050308@palain.com> Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 03:17, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > >> After upgrading to Jaunty, which also includes Amarok 2.0, I found I get >> no sound from this application. Someone on the Amarok list suggested >> that I try Dragon Player, and I get no sound with that either. On the >> other hand Miro is working just fine, so there is nothing intrinsically >> wrong with the sound system. Does this point to Phonon as the problem? >> And if so, any idea how I can fix it? >> > > This definitely points to a phonon problem. Please check that you use > the xine backend for phonon: > SystemSettings -> Multimedia -> in the Backend tab > > In the first tab you can see what sound card/sound server is used. If > you have Pulseaudio on top of that list: bingo! > > Pulseaudio is known to cause problems with sound in KDE4, and normally > the KDE apps do not use Pulseaudio. > > If you indeed have pulseaudio, you have two possibilities: > - remove pulseaudio > -push the pulseaudio server entry in phonon to the bottom > > Please report back if this worked. > After trying everything else, including a re-installation of Kubuntu, I finally applied scorched-earth tactics. I used locate to find every file on my hard drive that had "pulse" in the name, deleted the whole lot of them, and now I have sound with Phonon. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL nadreck at palain.com Linux User #333216 "If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error." -- John Kenneth Galbraith From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 15 21:39:40 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 52, Issue 80 References: <200905150955.50515.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> Message-ID: hvralpha said: > On Friday 15 May 2009 08:24:40 kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > wrote: >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:45:52 -0400 From: Clay Weber >> Subject: Re: Share not working >> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions >> Message-ID: <200905142245.52790.claydoh at midmaine.com> Content-Type: >> Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> On Thursday 14 May 2009 1:57:50 pm marc wrote: >> > marc said: >> > >> Say I want to share ~/Public. I right-click the folder in dolphin >> > >> and select the Share tab. Then click Configure file sharing... It >> > >> authenticates, then does nothing. Now, each time I click Configure >> > >> file sharing... nothing happens. >> > >> >> > >> The only message I can find is in auth.log >> > >> >> > >> May 14 15:32:10 mote sudo: marc : TTY=unknown ; >> > >> PWD=/home/marc/ Documents ; USER=root ;COMMAND=/usr/bin/kcmshell4 >> > >> fileshare >> > >> >> > >> /usr/bin/kcmshell4 exists, >> >> but the applet being run by kcmshell4 ('fileshare') does not >> >> > >> Any ideas? >> > >> > hvralpha said: >> > > Sharing is broken in Kubuntu 9.04 and a bug already registered on >> > > that. >> >> Not broken, rather not installed (as it probably should be) You need to >> install kdenetwork-filesharing for the applet, and either samba or nfs >> for the actual filesharing capabilities > > The bug reports is at Bug 373618. > There are errors in the samba config file which must be fixed. It does > not work in dolphin with the packages above installed. Must be a different problem here as smb.conf shows: passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u > A short term work around is to set the shares up in samba and use smb4k > to browse them. Thanks. That works for me. -- Best, Marc "Big change requires small steps." From rick_knight at rlknight.com Fri May 15 21:55:13 2009 From: rick_knight at rlknight.com (Rick Knight) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:55:13 -0700 Subject: Web Cam Publishing Message-ID: <4A0DE4C1.4040502@rlknight.com> Hello all, I have a Logitech webcam and Kubuntu 8.04. I am able to get images out Cheese and Ekiga, but what I want to do is publish the webcam's video to a web page. How is this done in Kubuntu? Thanks, Rick From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 15 21:57:56 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: CPU temp References: <200905150831.48709.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: Pastor JW said: > I've had something strange happening the past couple of days. My CPU > temp normally runs at 46-49 C but a couple days ago the fan went on full > and the temp went to 84 C which I think is not good, and did not come > back down. Running top shows python taking 100% of CPU. Looking at the > logs does not seem to say any error, or at least I can't spot any. I > don't know what called python or what was running any differently than > usual. Running 8.04 KDE 3.5.10 T5450 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 Gig memory. > Anyone have any idea about what is causing this? No, but I experience the same thing with kwin. No idea what it is. -- Best, Marc "Big change requires small steps." From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 15 22:08:52 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: KDE 4 simply broken References: <4A0DD3B3.8030508@midmaine.com> Message-ID: clay weber said: > marc wrote: >> FYI, there's an interesting thread ongoing in debian.users.kde. >> >> Here's the guy's list of issues: >> >> http://dgwiki.dingogully.com.au/Jedd/Excogitations/IT/KDE_4 >> >> > A lot of these issues listed are either fixed already or don't exist in > Kubuntu (the author is using Debian Unstable after all). And some are > (at least imo) features that were seldom utilized by great numbers of > users. > > Using the topic title that "KDE4 simply broken" is just plain silly. "I > don't care for KDE4" is rather more accurate, useful and honest. Why is listing a series of problems a "don't care" thing? It must have taken an age to write the details down, presumably so that he could record the progress of his fixes. I think he's trying to show a lot of love. -- Best, Marc "Big change requires small steps." From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 15 22:26:51 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:26:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: KDE 4 simply broken References: <1242370826.12248.81.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <48cc00830905150031x2b5f95bao24d2519886a6b3e1@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D8A43.7050806@comcast.net> Message-ID: Chris Jones said: >> Constructive criticism does not equal whining. > > How is a thread named "KDE 4 simply broken" constructive ? Read the content. -- Best, Marc "Big change requires small steps." From gmane at auxbuss.com Fri May 15 22:28:15 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Phonon sound problem? References: <49F7AAB8.7010502@palain.com> <4A0DE018.9050308@palain.com> Message-ID: Kevin B. O'Brien said: > Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >> Hi Kevin, >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 03:17, Kevin B. O'Brien >> wrote: >> >>> After upgrading to Jaunty, which also includes Amarok 2.0, I found I >>> get no sound from this application. Someone on the Amarok list >>> suggested that I try Dragon Player, and I get no sound with that >>> either. On the other hand Miro is working just fine, so there is >>> nothing intrinsically wrong with the sound system. Does this point to >>> Phonon as the problem? And if so, any idea how I can fix it? >>> >>> >> This definitely points to a phonon problem. Please check that you use >> the xine backend for phonon: >> SystemSettings -> Multimedia -> in the Backend tab >> >> In the first tab you can see what sound card/sound server is used. If >> you have Pulseaudio on top of that list: bingo! >> >> Pulseaudio is known to cause problems with sound in KDE4, and normally >> the KDE apps do not use Pulseaudio. >> >> If you indeed have pulseaudio, you have two possibilities: - remove >> pulseaudio >> -push the pulseaudio server entry in phonon to the bottom >> >> Please report back if this worked. >> > After trying everything else, including a re-installation of Kubuntu, I > finally applied scorched-earth tactics. I used locate to find every file > on my hard drive that had "pulse" in the name, deleted the whole lot of > them, and now I have sound with Phonon. File a bug with precise instructions; they might get the hint that something is wrong with audio in Kubuntu. -- Best, Marc "Big change requires small steps." From cary at bielenberg.id.au Fri May 15 22:31:28 2009 From: cary at bielenberg.id.au (Cary Bielenberg) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 08:31:28 +1000 Subject: CPU temp In-Reply-To: References: <200905150831.48709.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <4A0DED40.4060101@bielenberg.id.au> marc wrote: > Pastor JW said: > > >> I've had something strange happening the past couple of days. My CPU >> temp normally runs at 46-49 C but a couple days ago the fan went on full >> and the temp went to 84 C which I think is not good, and did not come >> back down. Running top shows python taking 100% of CPU. Looking at the >> logs does not seem to say any error, or at least I can't spot any. I >> don't know what called python or what was running any differently than >> usual. Running 8.04 KDE 3.5.10 T5450 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 Gig memory. >> Anyone have any idea about what is causing this? >> > > No, but I experience the same thing with kwin. No idea what it is. > > I have the same problem I have rectified by selecting aggressive power saving mode. My xorg & plasma are consuming almost 100% cpu. Cary From christopher.rob.jones at cern.ch Fri May 15 22:38:29 2009 From: christopher.rob.jones at cern.ch (Chris Jones) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 23:38:29 +0100 Subject: KDE 4 simply broken In-Reply-To: References: <1242370826.12248.81.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <48cc00830905150031x2b5f95bao24d2519886a6b3e1@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D8A43.7050806@comcast.net> Message-ID: <342C2997-654F-481F-A9B9-3322E75D651F@cern.ch> On 15 May 2009, at 11:26PM, marc wrote: > Chris Jones said: > >>> Constructive criticism does not equal whining. >> >> How is a thread named "KDE 4 simply broken" constructive ? > > Read the content. I did. KDE4 sure has problems, but a blanket statement like the above helps no one. From sclewin at sgaming.ca Sat May 16 01:20:32 2009 From: sclewin at sgaming.ca (Scott) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:20:32 -0400 Subject: Web Development In-Reply-To: <4A0D66F8.8020202@swbell.net> References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> <200905150816.12393.sclewin@sgaming.ca> <4A0D66F8.8020202@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200905152120.32991.sclewin@sgaming.ca> On May 15, 2009 08:58:32 am Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > I was told on the Quanta list that someone is supposedly working on an > update for Quanta. Ive seen this said multiple times in the last two years and very little haves actually been done. -- Your friend, Scott http://sgaming.ca Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 9.04 From sclewin at sgaming.ca Sat May 16 01:21:38 2009 From: sclewin at sgaming.ca (Scott) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:21:38 -0400 Subject: Web Development In-Reply-To: <4A0DA0FF.6030208@lemmons.name> References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> <200905150559.03763.david@dmcentral.net> <4A0DA0FF.6030208@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <200905152121.39013.sclewin@sgaming.ca> On May 15, 2009 01:06:07 pm Paul Lemmons wrote: > Tell me more. I looked at kdevelop and it does not appear to be geared > towards web development. Do you use it to develop web pages with PHP and > JavaScript? Kdevelop would be used for PHP development. Not for html/css development. At least, as far as I know. -- Your friend, Scott http://sgaming.ca Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 9.04 From paul at lemmons.name Sat May 16 01:55:47 2009 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 18:55:47 -0700 Subject: how to reuse ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <200905151628.46252.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> References: <200905151628.46252.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4A0E1D23.8070407@lemmons.name> nepal.roade at googlemail.com wrote: > Am running Kubuntu 8.10 with all updates. > I have a 70gb ntfs partition that is the first partition of my hard drive and > I want to use it for Linux. > I have several existing Linux partitions. All the partitions including some > > > nepal. > > > The partition already exists so there is no reason to delete it. Just reformat it to ext3 or 4 and mount it like you do any other partition. If you use gparted you can format and label it and then get the UUID of the partition to use in mounting it. You could also resize it if you wanted to. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3296 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From paul at lemmons.name Sat May 16 02:00:16 2009 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 19:00:16 -0700 Subject: Web Cam Publishing In-Reply-To: <4A0DE4C1.4040502@rlknight.com> References: <4A0DE4C1.4040502@rlknight.com> Message-ID: <4A0E1E30.6000506@lemmons.name> Rick Knight wrote: > Hello all, > > I have a Logitech webcam and Kubuntu 8.04. I am able to get images out > Cheese and Ekiga, but what I want to do is publish the webcam's video to > a web page. How is this done in Kubuntu? > > Thanks, > Rick > > apt-get install webcam And then go to http://www.astro.ku.dk/~norup/webcam/readme.txt for instructions on how to code the paramters. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3296 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From paul at lemmons.name Sat May 16 02:10:34 2009 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 19:10:34 -0700 Subject: Web Development In-Reply-To: References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <4A0E209A.5000804@lemmons.name> marc wrote: > Paul Lemmons said: > > >> What tools do folks use for web/php development? I have been using >> Quanta and am not unhappy with it but visible development seems to have, >> I hope temporarily, stalled. A quick google search did not show >> anything else that was promising. Just curious, what, besides Quanta is >> out there and is anybody actively using it? >> > > Netbeans. > > > The repos have v6.5, which is a good version. > This looks very promising. I installed the version in the repo and it does not include the PHP module. I had to download the one with php. I have only spent about 10 minutes with it but it looks nice so far. I will spend more time with it and see how it goes. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3296 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From david at dmcentral.net Sat May 16 02:51:45 2009 From: david at dmcentral.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:51:45 -0400 Subject: Web Development In-Reply-To: <4A0DA0FF.6030208@lemmons.name> References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> <200905150559.03763.david@dmcentral.net> <4A0DA0FF.6030208@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <200905152251.45692.david@dmcentral.net> On Friday 15 May 2009 01:06:07 pm Paul Lemmons wrote: > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re:Web Development > From: David McGlone > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Date: 05/15/2009 02:59 AM > > > On Thursday 14 May 2009 11:43:35 pm Paul Lemmons wrote: > >> What tools do folks use for web/php development? I have been using > >> Quanta and am not unhappy with it but visible development seems to have, > >> I hope temporarily, stalled. A quick google search did not show > >> anything else that was promising. Just curious, what, besides Quanta is > >> out there and is anybody actively using it? > > > > I use Kdevelop. > > > > Blessings, > > David M. > > http://www.dmcentral.net > > Tell me more. I looked at kdevelop and it does not appear to be geared > towards web development. Do you use it to develop web pages with PHP and > JavaScript? I sure do :-) In the kdevelop menu, you should see an option that says "kdevelop scripting language" choose that and when you choose to create a project, it will let you choose to use PHP and I think some other languages. I use PHP and mysql and have used some java. Only thing is I can't get the preview to work properly, but that isn't a biggie for me since I preview my work in as many browsers as I can anyway. -- Blessings David M. From david at dmcentral.net Sat May 16 02:55:35 2009 From: david at dmcentral.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:55:35 -0400 Subject: Web Development In-Reply-To: References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <200905152255.35802.david@dmcentral.net> On Friday 15 May 2009 04:52:19 pm marc wrote: > Paul Lemmons said: > > What tools do folks use for web/php development? I have been using > > Quanta and am not unhappy with it but visible development seems to have, > > I hope temporarily, stalled. A quick google search did not show > > anything else that was promising. Just curious, what, besides Quanta is > > out there and is anybody actively using it? > > Netbeans. > > It's progressed enormously in the areas of php, javascript and html. No > "visual editing" though, if that's your thing - although will > launch a page in your browser. But with excellent code completion and css > management - which is visual, if you need it. > > It has good integration with svn too, although lacks git, which is > coming; it has cvs and mercurial too, but also has a wicked local history. > > If you need server side debug with xdebug, then it'll do that too. > > I was using Eclipse for Java, then started using Netbeans for Ruby. As > the PHP stuff developed, I moved over completely. > > The repos have v6.5, which is a good version. I've tried netbeans, I didn't like it. :-( I used Kate for quite a while until one day I wanted CVS integration, so I looked at quite a few IDE's and settled on Kdevelop. -- Blessings David M. From david at dmcentral.net Sat May 16 02:59:25 2009 From: david at dmcentral.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:59:25 -0400 Subject: Web Development In-Reply-To: <200905152121.39013.sclewin@sgaming.ca> References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> <4A0DA0FF.6030208@lemmons.name> <200905152121.39013.sclewin@sgaming.ca> Message-ID: <200905152259.25891.david@dmcentral.net> On Friday 15 May 2009 09:21:38 pm Scott wrote: > On May 15, 2009 01:06:07 pm Paul Lemmons wrote: > > Tell me more. I looked at kdevelop and it does not appear to be > > geared > > > towards web development. Do you use it to develop web pages with > > PHP and > > > JavaScript? > > Kdevelop would be used for PHP development. Not for html/css > development. At least, as far as I know. I program everyday with kdevelop using PHP, mysql and CSS. Some javascript too. But if we are speaking about point and click development like quanta where you can point and click to make table rows and cells etc, etc, then kdevelop isn't an ideal tool. -- Blessings David M. From claydoh at midmaine.com Sat May 16 03:00:30 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 23:00:30 -0400 Subject: KDE 4 simply broken In-Reply-To: References: <4A0DD3B3.8030508@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <200905152300.30324.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Friday 15 May 2009 6:08:52 pm marc wrote: > clay weber said: > > marc wrote: > >> FYI, there's an interesting thread ongoing in debian.users.kde. > >> > >> Here's the guy's list of issues: > >> > >> http://dgwiki.dingogully.com.au/Jedd/Excogitations/IT/KDE_4 > > > > A lot of these issues listed are either fixed already or don't exist in > > Kubuntu (the author is using Debian Unstable after all). And some are > > (at least imo) features that were seldom utilized by great numbers of > > users. > > > > Using the topic title that "KDE4 simply broken" is just plain silly. "I > > don't care for KDE4" is rather more accurate, useful and honest. > > Why is listing a series of problems a "don't care" thing? Where did I say that? If a feature is seldom used, or only used by a smaller portion of users, doesn't make the missing or changed thing a "don't care" situation, nor does it make things broken broken, either. > It must have taken an age to write the details down, presumably so that > he could record the progress of his fixes. > > I think he's trying to show a lot of love. > > -- > Best, > Marc > > "Big change requires small steps." -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From wayward4now at gmail.com Sat May 16 06:14:57 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 02:14:57 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? really In-Reply-To: <200905151214.36899.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200905142314.27565.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1242369807.12248.79.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <200905151214.36899.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1242454497.12248.165.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 12:14 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 15 May 2009, Ric Moore wrote: > >On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 23:14 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> So don't blame it on kde4 style printers, its all of them AFAIK. This > >> epson is nearly a decade old, and the Stylus Pro in front of it was the > >> same way in 1994. > > > >My old Teletype 43 and my NEC Spinwriter 5525 could print boxes of > >printer paper on one cartridge. I almost miss them! > >http://www.atariarchives.org/bcc3/showpage.php?page=287 > >Can't find a pic of the Spinwriter! > > IIRC that TT-43 used a fabric cartridge ribbon and I know the Spinwriter did. The film cartridges were for fine high quality print, which looked glossy and almost raised. IIRC that on the Spinwriter you had to set a toggle when using film as it was a once-through and would barely inch the ribbon along. You couldn't reuse it. Using the ribbon, it worked in an endless loop, until it just had no more ink left in it. Darn if I wouldn't like to have that old Spinwriter back, as it made beautiful print jobs using the film cartridge. Any one got one that still works?? I'll give it a home! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat May 16 06:53:36 2009 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 02:53:36 -0400 Subject: Jaunty: How to install a USB printer? really In-Reply-To: <1242454497.12248.165.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> References: <200905151214.36899.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <1242454497.12248.165.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200905160253.37055.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 16 May 2009, Ric Moore wrote: >On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 12:14 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Friday 15 May 2009, Ric Moore wrote: >> >On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 23:14 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> So don't blame it on kde4 style printers, its all of them AFAIK. This >> >> epson is nearly a decade old, and the Stylus Pro in front of it was the >> >> same way in 1994. >> > >> >My old Teletype 43 and my NEC Spinwriter 5525 could print boxes of >> >printer paper on one cartridge. I almost miss them! >> >http://www.atariarchives.org/bcc3/showpage.php?page=287 >> >Can't find a pic of the Spinwriter! >> >> IIRC that TT-43 used a fabric cartridge ribbon and I know the Spinwriter >> did. > >The film cartridges were for fine high quality print, which looked >glossy and almost raised. IIRC that on the Spinwriter you had to set a >toggle when using film as it was a once-through and would barely inch >the ribbon along. You couldn't reuse it. > Same with the 1650-ro/Diablo, but if it had a switch, it was in the carriage somehow... >Using the ribbon, it worked in an endless loop, until it just had no >more ink left in it. Darn if I wouldn't like to have that old Spinwriter >back, as it made beautiful print jobs using the film cartridge. Any one >got one that still works?? I'll give it a home! Ric And you will likely find that the film ribbons are just like the ones for the Diablo, they've been cooking in a mexican warehouse for 20+ years, and will shatter on the first character. When being driven from the coco or my amiga, my driver program (pf) used a markup language of sorts, which knew about sub/superscript, underlining, and bold. The daisy had the best font on it that I've ever seen from a printer until the 3rd generation of ink squirters finally looked better. A std ascii wheel that you COULD tell the diff between an el and a 1. The WP wheel was a pita cuz it swapped some of the WP stuff in place of lessor used characters. Since I was using it for source code listings, the WP wheel managed to get lost 20 years ago. I picked that thing up at a hamfest here in WV, probably 22-23 years ago, for a $25 dollar bill. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Heller's Law: The first myth of management is that it exists. Johnson's Corollary: Nobody really knows what is going on anywhere within the organization. From gmane at auxbuss.com Sat May 16 09:41:19 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 09:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: CPU temp References: <200905150831.48709.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <4A0DED40.4060101@bielenberg.id.au> Message-ID: Cary Bielenberg said: > marc wrote: >> Pastor JW said: >> >> >>> I've had something strange happening the past couple of days. My CPU >>> temp normally runs at 46-49 C but a couple days ago the fan went on >>> full and the temp went to 84 C which I think is not good, and did not >>> come back down. Running top shows python taking 100% of CPU. Looking >>> at the logs does not seem to say any error, or at least I can't spot >>> any. I don't know what called python or what was running any >>> differently than usual. Running 8.04 KDE 3.5.10 T5450 Intel Core 2 >>> Duo, 4 Gig memory. Anyone have any idea about what is causing this? >>> >>> >> No, but I experience the same thing with kwin. No idea what it is. >> >> > I have the same problem I have rectified by selecting aggressive power > saving mode. My xorg & plasma are consuming almost 100% cpu. Just an FYI for anyone reading this: For light use, especially on a laptop even on mains power, I usually switch to the 'Powersave' power governor. It's easy to switch governors now via: +f2 power govenor then select from the list. If you want to explore this area a little, try installing the cpufrequtils package (it's tiny) and do: $ cpufreq-info There's an interesting read about Linux power management here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/power-management-guide.xml -- Best, Marc "Big change requires small steps." From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 16 11:06:46 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 07:06:46 -0400 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <1242367574.12248.56.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> Message-ID: <200905160706.46340.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Friday 15 May 2009 11:36:00 am Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi RIc, > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 08:06, Ric Moore wrote: > > I thought kcron was missing in action?? Ric > > No, it is not, it's just not an application you can start by simply > typing it's name alone, but a service. Kcron needs arguments like most > services and the runs as a background deamon. > BTW, if you go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Task Scheduler, > you can configure your local or system wide tasks quite easily through > a GUI. > > > Regards, Myriam. > -- > Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: > http://www.fsfe.org > Please don't send me proprietary file formats, > use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) Hi Myriam, I was interested in your instruction and tried it. I am in Jaunty kde 4.2.3 and can't find the Task Scheduler as an option. Is that because of my upgrade? Steven From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Sat May 16 16:52:43 2009 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 09:52:43 -0700 Subject: CPU temp In-Reply-To: References: <200905150831.48709.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <4A0DED40.4060101@bielenberg.id.au> Message-ID: <200905160952.52708.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Saturday 16 May 2009 2:41:19 am marc wrote: > Cary Bielenberg said: > > marc wrote: > >> Pastor JW said: > >>> I've had something strange happening the past couple of days. My CPU > >>> temp normally runs at 46-49 C but a couple days ago the fan went on > >>> full and the temp went to 84 C which I think is not good, and did not > >>> come back down. Running top shows python taking 100% of CPU. Looking > >>> at the logs does not seem to say any error, or at least I can't spot > >>> any. I don't know what called python or what was running any > >>> differently than usual. Running 8.04 KDE 3.5.10 T5450 Intel Core 2 > >>> Duo, 4 Gig memory. Anyone have any idea about what is causing this? > >> > >> No, but I experience the same thing with kwin. No idea what it is. > > > > I have the same problem I have rectified by selecting aggressive power > > saving mode. My xorg & plasma are consuming almost 100% cpu. > > Just an FYI for anyone reading this: > > For light use, especially on a laptop even on mains power, I usually > switch to the 'Powersave' power governor. It's easy to switch governors > now via: > > +f2 > power govenor > > then select from the list. > > If you want to explore this area a little, try installing the cpufrequtils > package (it's tiny) and do: > > $ cpufreq-info > > There's an interesting read about Linux power management here: > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/power-management-guide.xml It has always been easy in Kubuntu to change the CPU frequency by just right clicking the battery icon and setting the CPU policy but that is not the problem at all. The problem is a program all of a sudden taking 100 % of the CPU and not letting go. Dropping to "powersave" did not stop the problem although it did get the temperature of the CPU down to 79C. To stop it required a reboot, then the temp came back down to the normal after a minute or so. However, for no apparent reason, about two hours later it all happened again. Again, according to top, it is python taking 100 % of CPU. and again the only way to stop it is to reboot. The logs do not tell me what is going on. Or at least I find no mention of python. This is not normal for this machine and only started a few days ago. Like I said, it's normal CPU temp is about 46-49 and has been for several months. -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Sat May 16 17:10:06 2009 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 20:10:06 +0300 Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? In-Reply-To: <200905131659.56949.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> References: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <15edeae40905130348w5d587185xe088b444b01e864a@mail.gmail.com> <200905131659.56949.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <200905162010.15416.w.hamra1987@gmail.com> On Wednesday 13 May 2009 18:59:56 Mark Greenwood wrote: > On Wednesday 13 May 2009 11:48:35 Willy Hamra wrote: > > 2009/5/13 marc : > > > Mark Greenwood said: > > >> I will probably raise this as a bug, but X confuses the living goo out > > >> of me so I'd like to probe the collective wisdom here first.. > > >> > > >> On my Asus eee box, X has inexplicably decided I have 2 displays > > >> attached, despite there only being one connector for a monitor, and > > >> that being connected to my flatscreen TV's VGA port. Very odd. Anyway > > >> it seems that because it thinks I have 2 screens it has also enabled > > >> the horror that is Xinerama and this is causing mythtv no small amount > > >> of confusion. > > > > > > Yup, it seem that if you have multiple video cards and/or multiple > > > monitors X gets very confused. I'm having problems myself, and it's > > > looking like X is the culprit. > > > > > >> Now that we have this new improved X which ignores xorg.conf, how can > > >> I disable xinerama? Or how can I inform it politely that I only have > > >> one screen? > > > > > > I don't believe that X ignores xorg.conf. If you make changes to > > > xorg.conf, restart X, then examine the logs, you should see you're > > > additions being actioned. > > > > > > There does seem to be quite a bit of confusion, though, about what's > > > going on. > > > > yup, i've had enough of all this confusion about the bullet proof X. X > > still DOES read xorg.conf, and still DOES apply all the graphical > > gibberish we throw in it. i have written my xorg.conf for every > > release of kubuntu from the days of gutsy, and always will. > > the new bullet proof X is just that it can run, autoconfigure itself, > > and work properly even if there is no xorg.conf at all, that's the > > whole story. once settings exist, autoconfiguration stops, and it > > reads the file. as for xinerama, i'm sorry, but i never used it, or > > have any idea what properties/options it has that can be put in > > xorg.conf to control it. > > Pasted from my xorg.conf: > > # Note that some configuration settings that could be done previously > # in this file, now are automatically configured by the server and settings > # here are ignored. > > Is this wrong? > > I've already tried several valid modeline settings (generated using gtf) to > try to change the vsync settings, but X ignores them all. The same > settings, on the same hardware, with an older version of X (and a different > distro) work exactly as expected. Wierd. > these are referring to input related settings in xorg.conf. all input like keyboard and mouse settings are managed elsewhere now. but video is all in xorg.conf still/ -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Sat May 16 17:35:54 2009 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:35:54 +0100 Subject: CPU temp In-Reply-To: <200905160952.52708.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> References: <200905150831.48709.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <4A0DED40.4060101@bielenberg.id.au> <200905160952.52708.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <4A0EF97A.5030605@yahoo.it> Pastor JW wrote: > > It has always been easy in Kubuntu to change the CPU frequency by just right > clicking the battery icon and setting the CPU policy but that is not the > problem at all. The problem is a program all of a sudden taking 100 % of the > CPU and not letting go. Dropping to "powersave" did not stop the problem > although it did get the temperature of the CPU down to 79C. To stop it > required a reboot, then the temp came back down to the normal after a minute > or so. However, for no apparent reason, about two hours later it all > happened again. Again, according to top, it is python taking 100 % of CPU. > and again the only way to stop it is to reboot. The logs do not tell me what > is going on. Or at least I find no mention of python. Instead of rebooting you can try killing the python process that goes to 100% with kill + the process pid (kill -s KILL pid if the process is obstinate and won't die with a simple kill). HTH, I. From ed.lau at mail.ee Sat May 16 17:36:59 2009 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 20:36:59 +0300 Subject: Web Development In-Reply-To: <4A0DA0FF.6030208@lemmons.name> References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> <200905150559.03763.david@dmcentral.net> <4A0DA0FF.6030208@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <4A0EF9BB.1050405@mail.ee> >>> What tools do folks use for web/php development? I have been using >>> Quanta and am not unhappy with it but visible development seems to have, >>> I hope temporarily, stalled. A quick google search did not show >>> anything else that was promising. Just curious, what, besides Quanta is >>> out there and is anybody actively using it? >> I use Kdevelop. > Tell me more. I looked at kdevelop and it does not appear to be geared > towards web development. Do you use it to develop web pages with PHP and > JavaScript? What about Eclipse, SciTE? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_(software) http://www.eclipse.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciTE http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html I use also Kate. I like Kate's features - can open terminal window and run all commands what current shell supports, can open files directly over network using KIO slaves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIO) and main window can be divided into vertical or horizontal windows and each part of that window can consist separate file from anywhere (local or remote file) and also file and folder browser as navigation bar on left side. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_(text_editor) http://kate-editor.org/ More reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_integrated_development_environments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_code_editor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_HTML_editors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_text_editors#Programming_features http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PHP_editors http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Integrated_development_environments Best Regards, Edmund Laugasson From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Sat May 16 18:16:17 2009 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 11:16:17 -0700 Subject: Web Development In-Reply-To: <4A0EF9BB.1050405@mail.ee> References: <4A0CE4E7.20901@lemmons.name> <4A0DA0FF.6030208@lemmons.name> <4A0EF9BB.1050405@mail.ee> Message-ID: <200905161116.22663.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Saturday 16 May 2009 10:36:59 am Edmund Laugasson wrote: > >>> What tools do folks use for web/php development? I have been using > >>> Quanta and am not unhappy with it but visible development seems to > >>> have, I hope temporarily, stalled. A quick google search did not show > >>> anything else that was promising. Just curious, what, besides Quanta is > >>> out there and is anybody actively using it? Why do you feel development is stopped? Version 3.5.9 released Feb 20, 2009 and the current one in the repositories for 8.04 is version 3.5.10 so it looks like something is being done! I do not however, have it installed. > >> > >> I use Kdevelop. > > > > Tell me more. I looked at kdevelop and it does not appear to be geared > > towards web development. Do you use it to develop web pages with PHP and > > JavaScript? > > What about Eclipse, SciTE? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_(software) > http://www.eclipse.org/ > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciTE > http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html > > I use also Kate. I like Kate's features - can open terminal window and run > all commands what current shell supports, can open files directly over > network using KIO slaves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIO) and main window > can be divided into vertical or horizontal windows and each part of that > window can consist separate file from anywhere (local or remote file) and > also file and folder browser as navigation bar on left side. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_(text_editor) > http://kate-editor.org/ I too use Kate but then I dislike many of the ways the html editors put a page together. BTW- Seamonkey also comes with an editor. Used it a couple of times but had to correct the pages so it didn't save me any time. Of course nothing near so bad as Dreamweaver but still one ought to strive for clean webpages, especially if we are creating for someone else! -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <   PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 16 22:56:09 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:56:09 -0400 Subject: Insufficient permissions to save or print Message-ID: <200905161856.09672.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> I just ran the following commands, then edited them so that they lined up, and wanted to print, as well as, save them. I was refused with the 'Subject:' statement: steven at Yeshua:~$ df -Th steven at Yeshua:~$ sudo fdisk -l steven at Yeshua:~$ mount This is quite frustrating, because it took quite a while to get items under their proper heading, etc. I copied them to a OpenOffice.org Word document. Is there a way for me to give myself the appropriate permissions without having to do all the editing over again? Thanks! Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat May 16 23:13:31 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 19:13:31 -0400 Subject: Torrent Programs Message-ID: <200905161913.31695.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Is there a way to use the torrent programs where you can use your bandwidth. For a few days after I install a torrent program, like Ktorrent, I get 320kpbs download with 60kpbs upload. I am faithful to upload all downwnload data that I use, but do not upload data where deceptive practices have been used to sell you something or perhaps provide the offer in a language you cannot understand, all the while they offer it using the English language to identify their content. I have been days trying to upload mostly junk, however, it was not misrepresented, so I am obliged to send the data. Of fifteen entries, I am uploading at a rate of about 10kpbs. Additionally, not downloading anything, I selected a couple of files for download, expecting to download at a pretty high rate. Both have several peers, however, I am not connected for 2 days now. 0 download with about 350kbps available. I am spending twice what I used to for my ISP connection, trying to obtain more speed, and getting less service in the process. I am about to terminate the process completely and reduce my bandwidth again, it is foolish to pay twice as much to receive 1/2 the benefit. I have read and tried most of the suggestions from those on the forums, however, they do not sound very technically educated, and their recommendations don't work. Is it possible to understand how the system works and get fair response from it? Thanks! Steven From ed.lau at mail.ee Sat May 16 23:45:17 2009 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 02:45:17 +0300 Subject: broadcasting software for Ubuntu? Message-ID: <4A0F500D.2070509@mail.ee> Hi! I'd like to organize radiostation over internet and would like to do it using Ubuntu and other always free software. Is it realistic dream and what kind of software you are suggesting? I mean where can be organize playlist, configure song playing frequency according popularity, play advertisings with configurable frequency and playing time if needed, has cough button to clear throat if needed, has blending sound switching opportunity when needed to speak through microphone, etc. - everything what one good radio may need. I need: 1) streaming server program 2) managing radio content and send it to streaming server Perhaps these functions can be in one program. I made some search: http://www.google.com/search?q=radio+broadcast+using+ubuntu I found: http://www.ivankristianto.com/2009/04/howto-radio-streaming-server-in-ubuntu-using-icecast2/ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=539206 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=63943 Then I found http://www.campware.org/en/camp/campcaster_news/ Has anybody experience with this? Does it work and which Ubuntu versions? I tried also VLC Media Player but it stops after playing one song. Certainly, it's not meant for radio broadcasting but I just tested it. It seems like there is one mixer, where are connected microphone for speaking and computer for managing playing content and mixer's output goes to e.g. icecast? Any idea (scheme) of connecting devices are also appreciated! Thanks a lot, Edmund From ed.lau at mail.ee Sun May 17 00:12:36 2009 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 03:12:36 +0300 Subject: broadcasting software for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <4A0F500D.2070509@mail.ee> References: <4A0F500D.2070509@mail.ee> Message-ID: <4A0F5674.3030402@mail.ee> > Then I found http://www.campware.org/en/camp/campcaster_news/ > Has anybody experience with this? Does it work and which Ubuntu versions? Especially would be appreciated the feature, where listeners can vote songs in playlist over web and broadcasting software will read it and play these songs more frequently, what received higher rates. Best Regards, Edmund From ed.lau at mail.ee Sun May 17 00:34:53 2009 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 03:34:53 +0300 Subject: broadcasting software for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <4A0F5674.3030402@mail.ee> References: <4A0F500D.2070509@mail.ee> <4A0F5674.3030402@mail.ee> Message-ID: <4A0F5BAD.5030604@mail.ee> >> Then I found http://www.campware.org/en/camp/campcaster_news/ >> Has anybody experience with this? Does it work and which Ubuntu versions? > > Especially would be appreciated the feature, where listeners can vote > songs in playlist over web and broadcasting software will read it and > play these songs more frequently, what received higher rates. Also broadcasting ID's - what's playing currently on the air. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun May 17 00:42:59 2009 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 20:42:59 -0400 Subject: broadcasting software for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <4A0F5BAD.5030604@mail.ee> References: <4A0F500D.2070509@mail.ee> <4A0F5674.3030402@mail.ee> <4A0F5BAD.5030604@mail.ee> Message-ID: <200905162043.00135.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday 16 May 2009, Edmund Laugasson wrote: > >> Then I found http://www.campware.org/en/camp/campcaster_news/ > >> Has anybody experience with this? Does it work and which Ubuntu > >> versions? > > > > Especially would be appreciated the feature, where listeners can vote > > songs in playlist over web and broadcasting software will read it and > > play these songs more frequently, what received higher rates. > > Also broadcasting ID's - what's playing currently on the air. Rather than bombbarding us with these features, (and not getting any answers), have you tried googling for 'linux broadcast' ?? I just did and found some interesting hits. From ed.lau at mail.ee Sun May 17 00:57:48 2009 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 03:57:48 +0300 Subject: broadcasting software for Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <4A0F5BAD.5030604@mail.ee> References: <4A0F500D.2070509@mail.ee> <4A0F5674.3030402@mail.ee> <4A0F5BAD.5030604@mail.ee> Message-ID: <4A0F610C.5090502@mail.ee> >>> Then I found http://www.campware.org/en/camp/campcaster_news/ >>> Has anybody experience with this? Does it work and which Ubuntu >>> versions? >> >> Especially would be appreciated the feature, where listeners can vote >> songs in playlist over web and broadcasting software will read it and >> play these songs more frequently, what received higher rates. > > Also broadcasting ID's - what's playing currently on the air. I found this link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_audio_software#Radio_broadcasting What to choose? It seems like there should be tested those programs to get picture. Does any have experience with those programs? Thanks a lot, Edmund From claydoh at midmaine.com Sun May 17 01:59:33 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 21:59:33 -0400 Subject: Torrent Programs In-Reply-To: <200905161913.31695.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905161913.31695.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905162159.33484.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Saturday 16 May 2009 7:13:31 pm Steven Vollom wrote: > Is there a way to use the torrent programs where you can use your > bandwidth. For a few days after I install a torrent program, like Ktorrent, > I get 320kpbs download with 60kpbs upload. I am faithful to upload all > downwnload data that I use, but do not upload data where deceptive > practices have been used to sell you something or perhaps provide the offer > in a language you cannot understand, all the while they offer it using the > English language to identify their content. > > I have been days trying to upload mostly junk, however, it was not > misrepresented, so I am obliged to send the data. No, you are not *obligated*, though it is courteous to upload the amount you download. > Of fifteen entries, I am > uploading at a rate of about 10kpbs. Additionally, not downloading > anything, I selected a couple of files for download, expecting to download > at a pretty high rate. Both have several peers, however, I am not > connected for 2 days now. 0 download with about 350kbps available. The seeders/leechers may have imposed limits on their own upload speed. Your download speed is only as high as the speed of those also sharing, as well as the total number of seeders and peers. if there are no seeders, and the peers do not have 100% of the files, there is nothing for you to download until seeders come back online > I am spending twice what I used to for my ISP connection, trying to obtain > more speed, and getting less service in the process. I am about to > terminate the process completely and reduce my bandwidth again, it is > foolish to pay twice as much to receive 1/2 the benefit. Bittorrent downloading can be a cesspool, depending on where you get your torrents from. Linux iso torrents are usually fast because the users care more about sharing. many other places the users (as the downloads are mostly illegal) don't care about sharing and seeding. But other than helping make sure your router is set up for allowing bittorrent to run correctly, any further assistance would probably be against the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, and not appropriate in this mailing list http://portforward.com/english/applications/port_forwarding/Torrent/Torrentindex.htm has tutorials specific to each router model out there > I have read and tried most of the suggestions from those on the forums, > however, they do not sound very technically educated, and their > recommendations don't work. Is it possible to understand how the system > works and get fair response from it? Thanks! > Steven -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From llewejhr at hotmail.com Sun May 17 03:21:48 2009 From: llewejhr at hotmail.com (r j) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 22:21:48 -0500 Subject: Proper use of junk mail feature? In-Reply-To: <49C640CE.6010508@sbcglobal.net> References: <49C5B5CD.3080206@sbcglobal.net> <49C5BEB5.6040905@swbell.net> <49C6272D.1000008@sbcglobal.net> <49C62CD0.6060709@dmiyu.org> <49C640CE.6010508@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: This is junk mail. Get me off this fucking list! > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:44:46 -0400 > From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Proper use of junk mail feature? > > > > So moving junk to a folder, having a look at this folder any other week > > to identify anything that was falsely classified and then setting the > > junk to be deleted after say 30 days, imho sometimes works better. > > > > regards > > Eberhard > > > Your HO is just fine with me. I would eat a bug if you told me to. > > I finally think I figured out what you were eluding to with relation to > Alpha 6 stuff. Are you advised by the list to avoid Alpha's? If not, > and you haven't tried it, Jaunty Alpha 6, at least in my experience, is > solid. It only has a couple of minor glitches. I just love it and > couldn't change back. For me it works better than all preceding issues > of Kubuntu, even back to Feisty. > > It is so good to hear your voice again. How's the server coming, any > progress yet? keep me posted on your needs, my friend. > > Steven > > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd1_052009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From llewejhr at hotmail.com Sun May 17 03:23:41 2009 From: llewejhr at hotmail.com (r j) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 22:23:41 -0500 Subject: Plasmoid Problem 5:50 post. In-Reply-To: <49ADB92D.1080106@sbcglobal.net> References: <49ADB92D.1080106@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Please get my email off this list; > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:11:41 -0500 > From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Plasmoid Problem 5:50 post. > > The 5:50 post of this problem is inaccurate. Can it be removed? The > one that followed is accurate. > > Steven > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_WhatsNew1_052009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Grokit at ajinfosearch.com Sun May 17 03:36:45 2009 From: Grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 23:36:45 -0400 Subject: Plasmoid Problem 5:50 post. In-Reply-To: References: <49ADB92D.1080106@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905162336.45711.Grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Saturday 16 May 2009 11:23:41 pm r j wrote: > Please get my email off this list; > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail® has a new way to see what's up with your friends. > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutor >ial_WhatsNew1_052009 I don't need hotmail to stay in touch with my friends, thank you. At the bottom of every email from this list is the following: kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Please read the last line. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun May 17 03:37:29 2009 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 22:37:29 -0500 Subject: Plasmoid Problem 5:50 post. In-Reply-To: References: <49ADB92D.1080106@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A0F8679.5000209@swbell.net> r j wrote: > Please get my email off this list; If you take a couple seconds you can get your own self off. Just look at the bottom of any e-mail that comes through the list. > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:11:41 -0500 > > From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: Plasmoid Problem 5:50 post. > > > > The 5:50 post of this problem is inaccurate. Can it be removed? The > > one that followed is accurate. > > > > Steven > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hotmail® has a new way to see what's up with your friends. Check it > out. > -- Treat all stressful situations like a dog does. If you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Sun May 17 05:19:56 2009 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 08:19:56 +0300 Subject: Jaunty - can I disable xinerama? In-Reply-To: <200905162010.15416.w.hamra1987@gmail.com> References: <200905130006.54644.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <15edeae40905130348w5d587185xe088b444b01e864a@mail.gmail.com> <200905131659.56949.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <200905162010.15416.w.hamra1987@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0F9E7C.9040205@prayingforisrael.net> Willy K. Hamra wrote: > On Wednesday 13 May 2009 18:59:56 Mark Greenwood wrote: >> On Wednesday 13 May 2009 11:48:35 Willy Hamra wrote: >>> 2009/5/13 marc : >>>> Mark Greenwood said: >>>>> I will probably raise this as a bug, but X confuses the living goo out >>>>> of me so I'd like to probe the collective wisdom here first.. >>>>> >>>>> On my Asus eee box, X has inexplicably decided I have 2 displays >>>>> attached, despite there only being one connector for a monitor, and >>>>> that being connected to my flatscreen TV's VGA port. Very odd. Anyway >>>>> it seems that because it thinks I have 2 screens it has also enabled >>>>> the horror that is Xinerama and this is causing mythtv no small amount >>>>> of confusion. >>>> Yup, it seem that if you have multiple video cards and/or multiple >>>> monitors X gets very confused. I'm having problems myself, and it's >>>> looking like X is the culprit. >>>> >>>>> Now that we have this new improved X which ignores xorg.conf, how can >>>>> I disable xinerama? Or how can I inform it politely that I only have >>>>> one screen? >>>> I don't believe that X ignores xorg.conf. If you make changes to >>>> xorg.conf, restart X, then examine the logs, you should see you're >>>> additions being actioned. >>>> >>>> There does seem to be quite a bit of confusion, though, about what's >>>> going on. >>> yup, i've had enough of all this confusion about the bullet proof X. X >>> still DOES read xorg.conf, and still DOES apply all the graphical >>> gibberish we throw in it. i have written my xorg.conf for every >>> release of kubuntu from the days of gutsy, and always will. >>> the new bullet proof X is just that it can run, autoconfigure itself, >>> and work properly even if there is no xorg.conf at all, that's the >>> whole story. once settings exist, autoconfiguration stops, and it >>> reads the file. as for xinerama, i'm sorry, but i never used it, or >>> have any idea what properties/options it has that can be put in >>> xorg.conf to control it. >> Pasted from my xorg.conf: >> >> # Note that some configuration settings that could be done previously >> # in this file, now are automatically configured by the server and settings >> # here are ignored. >> >> Is this wrong? >> >> I've already tried several valid modeline settings (generated using gtf) to >> try to change the vsync settings, but X ignores them all. The same >> settings, on the same hardware, with an older version of X (and a different >> distro) work exactly as expected. Wierd. >> > > these are referring to input related settings in xorg.conf. > all input like keyboard and mouse settings are managed elsewhere now. but > video is all in xorg.conf still/ > > Not quite true as my xorg.conf contains settings for my touchpad (Dell Inspiron 1525): Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad" Driver "synaptics" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "0" Option "MaxTapTime" "2" EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad" EndSection Maybe somebody would like to help clear up this whole new Xorg mystery? Blessings, Nigel From mdhirsch at gmail.com Sun May 17 07:33:11 2009 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 01:33:11 -0600 Subject: Xorg on Thinkpad W500 and Jaunty Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0905170033y17301b3elfa6e26e546c980ca@mail.gmail.com> I upgraded my w500 from Intrepid to Jaunty today. The W500 has an ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3650 graphics card. In intrepid I had it working pretty well, though there were some klunky parts. Jaunty looks like it should be much better supported, but I can't get it to work quite right. When kdm starts, it looks like X tries to start 3 times, then it starts in 1024x768 mode. After I log in I can use xrandr to switch to the native 1680x1050, but I should be able to get X started in that mode when kdm comes up. Anyone else using this? Of ever seen this before? I see no evidence of errors in the log file, except that it seems to see all the available modes several times. There is a list of unsupoprted visuals, followed by: (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so (II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0 (II) fglrx(0): Enable the clock gating! (II) fglrx(0): Restoring recent mode: 1024x768 at 75Hz I think that is where my mode is getting set, and I can't find a way to make another mode be used by default. Any suggestions? Thanks,m Michael From myriam at ubuntu.com Sun May 17 08:48:48 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 10:48:48 +0200 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <200905160706.46340.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <1242367574.12248.56.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> <200905160706.46340.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hi Steven, On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 13:06, Steven Vollom wrote: > Hi Myriam, > > I was interested in your instruction and tried it. I am in Jaunty kde 4.2.3 > and can't find the Task Scheduler as an option. Is that because of my upgrade? Not at all, I am running KDE 4.2.3 myself. I think it's just because you don't have kcron installed. The command 'aptitude show kcron' gives the following output: [output] Package: kcron State: installed Automatically installed: no Version: 4:4.2.3-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1 Priority: optional [comment] This might be the actual problem: I installed kcron myself as it didn't come with the base packages on the Jaunty CD Usually, when doing a fresh install and knowing that there are a lot of KDE packages that are not on the CD due to space restrictions, I run the package manager to show me what else there is available. Almost half of the KDE4 packages reside in the universe repositories, so most of the people who only do a basic installation miss the whole picture. The output of the command then continues as follow: [/comment] Section: admin Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers Uncompressed Size: 532k Depends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.2.3), kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.2.3), libc6 (>= 2.2.5), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libqt4-dbus (>= 4.5.0~+rc1), libqt4-network (>= 4.5.0~+rc1), libqt4-qt3support (>= 4.5.0~+rc1), libqt4-svg (>= 4.5.0~+rc1), libqt4-xml (>= 4.5.0~+rc1), libqtcore4 (>= 4.5.0~+rc1), libqtgui4 (>= 4.5.0~+rc1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1) Suggests: khelpcenter Conflicts: kcron-kde4 Replaces: kcron-kde4 Description: program scheduler for KDE 4 KCron is a system settings module for scheduling programs to run at specific intervals using cron, the UNIX scheduling service. This package is part of the KDE 4 administration module. [/output] Keep in mind that you have to start the systemsettings with kdesudo if you want to set system wide cron jobs. Hope this helps. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From fatgerman at ntlworld.com Sun May 17 09:46:16 2009 From: fatgerman at ntlworld.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 10:46:16 +0100 Subject: Xorg on Thinkpad W500 and Jaunty In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0905170033y17301b3elfa6e26e546c980ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c2aabaf0905170033y17301b3elfa6e26e546c980ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905171046.16680.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> On Sunday 17 May 2009 08:33:11 Michael Hirsch wrote: > I upgraded my w500 from Intrepid to Jaunty today. The W500 has an > ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3650 graphics card. > > (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so > (II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0 > (II) fglrx(0): Enable the clock gating! > (II) fglrx(0): Restoring recent mode: 1024x768 at 75Hz > > I think that is where my mode is getting set, and I can't find a way > to make another mode be used by default. I had similar problems - different machine but the symptoms look the same. Try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and adding: Option "PreferredMode" "1680x1050" into the "Monitor" section. Mark > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks,m > > Michael > From fatgerman at ntlworld.com Sun May 17 09:49:11 2009 From: fatgerman at ntlworld.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 10:49:11 +0100 Subject: CPU temp In-Reply-To: <4A0EF97A.5030605@yahoo.it> References: <200905150831.48709.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <200905160952.52708.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <4A0EF97A.5030605@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <200905171049.11233.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> On Saturday 16 May 2009 18:35:54 Ignazio Palmisano wrote: > Pastor JW wrote: > > > > It has always been easy in Kubuntu to change the CPU frequency by just right > > clicking the battery icon and setting the CPU policy but that is not the > > problem at all. The problem is a program all of a sudden taking 100 % of the > > CPU and not letting go. Dropping to "powersave" did not stop the problem > > although it did get the temperature of the CPU down to 79C. To stop it > > required a reboot, then the temp came back down to the normal after a minute > > or so. However, for no apparent reason, about two hours later it all > > happened again. Again, according to top, it is python taking 100 % of CPU. > > and again the only way to stop it is to reboot. The logs do not tell me what > > is going on. Or at least I find no mention of python. > It's almost certainly the update manager. it does this to me too. if you leave it long enough it will stop, I think there's a bug raised on it at launchpad. You could try finding it and adding your voice to the growing list of complainers. :) Mark > Instead of rebooting you can try killing the python process that goes to > 100% with kill + the process pid (kill -s KILL pid if the process is > obstinate and won't die with a simple kill). > HTH, > I. > From myriam at ubuntu.com Sun May 17 10:11:45 2009 From: myriam at ubuntu.com (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:11:45 +0200 Subject: Xorg on Thinkpad W500 and Jaunty In-Reply-To: <200905171046.16680.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> References: <9c2aabaf0905170033y17301b3elfa6e26e546c980ca@mail.gmail.com> <200905171046.16680.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: Hi Mark and Michael, On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:46, Mark Greenwood wrote: > On Sunday 17 May 2009 08:33:11 Michael Hirsch wrote: >> I upgraded my w500 from Intrepid to Jaunty today.  The W500 has an >> ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3650 graphics card. >> >> (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so >> (II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0 >> (II) fglrx(0): Enable the clock gating! >> (II) fglrx(0): Restoring recent mode: 1024x768 at 75Hz >> >> I think that is where my mode is getting set, and I can't find a way >> to make another mode be used by default. > > I had similar problems - different machine but the symptoms look the same. > > Try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and adding: > > Option "PreferredMode" "1680x1050" > > into the "Monitor" section. Wow, and you can actually run X with the current fglrx driver? I have exactly the same laptop and fglrx never worked here in Jaunty. Every time I tried to start X it froze the whole machine ( and really frozen, only hard booting possible after it) if I wasn't fast enough to switch to tty1 on start. I chose to use the free radeon driver instead, which of course also means a limited set of desktop effects with XRender, as OpenGL simply refuses to work without freezing the X session. Reproducible every time. I have found very few reports of people actually running OpenGL with this card, but far too poor information is available on how to actually tweak the system to make it work again as in Intrepid... so some detailed information on which exact xorg.conf settings needed would be very welcome! Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From gmane at auxbuss.com Sun May 17 12:50:15 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Proper use of junk mail feature? References: <49C5B5CD.3080206@sbcglobal.net> <49C5BEB5.6040905@swbell.net> <49C6272D.1000008@sbcglobal.net> <49C62CD0.6060709@dmiyu.org> <49C640CE.6010508@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: r j said: > This is junk mail. Get me off this fucking list! Please do not top post. Please switch off html when sending email. Please trim your posts. Swearing on the list is not a good way to get a response, and is against the CoC. If you post from a Blackberry phone, please disregard the above, and add some advertising. -- Best, Marc "Big change requires small steps." From dave at thefletchers.net Sun May 17 13:47:48 2009 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:47:48 +0100 Subject: Torrent Programs In-Reply-To: <200905162159.33484.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <200905161913.31695.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905162159.33484.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <200905171447.55785.dave@thefletchers.net> On Sunday 17 May 2009, Clay Weber wrote: > > Bittorrent downloading can be a cesspool, depending on where you get your > torrents from. Linux iso torrents are usually fast because the users care more > about sharing. many other places the users (as the downloads are mostly > illegal) don't care about sharing and seeding. But other than helping make > sure your router is set up for allowing bittorrent to run correctly, any > further assistance would probably be against the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, and > not appropriate in this mailing list I've never had good luck with torrents. When I need to download a distribution CD, the Kubuntu stuff is all mirrored by my ISP Virgin Media. At the present my connection is 2Mb/sec (supposed to be going up to 10) and I consistently get 250kB/sec downloads, which I think is my full connection speed. At this rate it doesn't take long to download a CD, which suits me fine. Dave -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From michael at weblore.com Sun May 17 15:57:16 2009 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 10:57:16 -0500 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems Message-ID: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> I've updated to Jaunty and am running KMail 1.11.2. I did a fresh install (the version upgrade tool failed as usual) to get there. Two things really impact usability. First - that "Favorite Folders" list at the top is just wasted space. I know and can easily access the folders I'm interested in. I'd like to get rid of that. The second - I have no way to classify an item as spam. I had assumed that it was because the "Filter - classify as spam" button was too far down on the list to be visible - so I moved it up above the Move to Trash button on the Configure toolbars screen. It still doesn't display. I need to find some way to get the "Classify as Spam" and "Classify as Not Spam" buttons to be accessible. 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I had assumed that > it was because the "Filter - classify as spam" button was too far down on > the list to be visible - so I moved it up above the Move to Trash button on > the Configure toolbars screen. It still doesn't display. I need to find > some way to get the "Classify as Spam" and "Classify as Not Spam" buttons > to be accessible. > > Anyone offer any help? > > ---Michael Settings=>Configure KMail=>Appearance=>Layout=>Show Favorite Folder View Uncheck that -- Best Regards / Med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Til uvedkommende, der læser med: Der er ingen grund til at læse min mail. Jeg har intet at gøre med FARC, al-Jihad, al-Qaida, Hamas, Hizb al-Mujahidin eller ETA. Jeg har aldrig gjort Zakat, går ikke ind for Istishad, har ikke lavet en bilbombe eller kernevåben og jeg ved dårligt nok, hvad Al Manar og бомба betyder. Men tak for den udviste interesse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jongleur at liripipe.com Sun May 17 16:30:35 2009 From: jongleur at liripipe.com (John L Vifian) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:30:35 -0700 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems In-Reply-To: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> References: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200905170930.35813.jongleur@liripipe.com> On Sunday 17 May 2009 8:57:16 am Michael Satterwhite wrote: > Two things really impact usability. First - that "Favorite Folders" list at > the top is just wasted space. I know and can easily access the folders I'm > interested in. I'd like to get rid of that. Settings->Configure Kmail->Appearance->Layout -> Uncheck Show Favorite Folder View > The second - I have no way to classify an item as spam. I had assumed that > it was because the "Filter - classify as spam" button was too far down on > the list to be visible - so I moved it up above the Move to Trash button on > the Configure toolbars screen. It still doesn't display. I need to find > some way to get the "Classify as Spam" and "Classify as Not Spam" buttons > to be go to Settings-> Configure Filters and choose the advanced tab. In the list of available filters choose "Classify As Spam" and make sure that the following boxes are checked: "If this filter matches stop processing here", "Add this filter to the Apply Filer Menu" and "Additionally add this filter to the toolbar" Repeat this for the "Classify As Not Spam" Filter If the filters don't exist then maybe run the Tools->Anti Spam Wizard hope this helps, John L Vifian -- Hope is very dangerous. Servalan "Blakes 7" From tuxebi at gmx.de Sun May 17 16:49:40 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:49:40 +0200 Subject: Insufficient permissions to save or print In-Reply-To: <200905161856.09672.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905161856.09672.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Steven Vollom wrote: > I just ran the following commands, then edited them so that they lined up, and > wanted to print, as well as, save them. I was refused with the 'Subject:' > statement: > > steven at Yeshua:~$ df -Th > steven at Yeshua:~$ sudo fdisk -l > steven at Yeshua:~$ mount Hi Steven, could you please explain what it is that you want to achieve? And what you wanted to do with those commands? And what exactly was the output of each command, when you issued those three commands, one at a time, followed by pressing "return"? On a side note, just guessing from the subject of your mail: You do not want to reinvigorate the seemingly endless permission discussions of yesteryear, do you? ;-)). If this is a similar issue, please have a loooooong look at the list archives. You are wellcome to ask anything that you might not understand, when reading there. > > This is quite frustrating, because it took quite a while to get items under > their proper heading, etc. ??? > > I copied them to a OpenOffice.org Word document. Is there a way for me to give > myself the appropriate permissions without having to do all the editing over > again? Thanks! > Sure, if you would like to clarify. Kind regards Eberhard From michael at weblore.com Sun May 17 17:57:18 2009 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:57:18 -0500 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems In-Reply-To: <200905170930.35813.jongleur@liripipe.com> References: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> <200905170930.35813.jongleur@liripipe.com> Message-ID: <200905171257.18863.michael@weblore.com> On Sunday 17 May 2009 11:30:35 am John L Vifian wrote: > go to Settings-> Configure Filters and choose the advanced tab. In the > list of available filters choose "Classify As Spam" and make sure that the > following boxes are checked: "If this filter matches stop processing > here", "Add this filter to the Apply Filer Menu" and "Additionally add this > filter to the toolbar" > > Repeat this for the "Classify As Not Spam" Filter > > If the filters don't exist then maybe run the Tools->Anti Spam Wizard I had done this previously - and checked it again just now. 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URL: From mdhirsch at gmail.com Sun May 17 18:01:19 2009 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:01:19 -0600 Subject: Xorg on Thinkpad W500 and Jaunty In-Reply-To: <200905171046.16680.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> References: <9c2aabaf0905170033y17301b3elfa6e26e546c980ca@mail.gmail.com> <200905171046.16680.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0905171101q25eea720k510099655abf4476@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > On Sunday 17 May 2009 08:33:11 Michael Hirsch wrote: >> I upgraded my w500 from Intrepid to Jaunty today.  The W500 has an >> ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3650 graphics card. >> >> (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so >> (II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0 >> (II) fglrx(0): Enable the clock gating! >> (II) fglrx(0): Restoring recent mode: 1024x768 at 75Hz >> >> I think that is where my mode is getting set, and I can't find a way >> to make another mode be used by default. > > I had similar problems - different machine but the symptoms look the same. > > Try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and adding: > > Option "PreferredMode" "1680x1050" > > into the "Monitor" section. Thanks for the suggestion, Mark. Unfortunately it made no difference. :( Michael From mdhirsch at gmail.com Sun May 17 18:08:45 2009 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:08:45 -0600 Subject: Xorg on Thinkpad W500 and Jaunty In-Reply-To: References: <9c2aabaf0905170033y17301b3elfa6e26e546c980ca@mail.gmail.com> <200905171046.16680.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0905171108ld0aac49gccef3f8f108673a4@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Mark and Michael, > > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:46, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> On Sunday 17 May 2009 08:33:11 Michael Hirsch wrote: >>> I upgraded my w500 from Intrepid to Jaunty today.  The W500 has an >>> ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3650 graphics card. >>> >>> (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so >>> (II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0 >>> (II) fglrx(0): Enable the clock gating! >>> (II) fglrx(0): Restoring recent mode: 1024x768 at 75Hz >>> >>> I think that is where my mode is getting set, and I can't find a way >>> to make another mode be used by default. >> >> I had similar problems - different machine but the symptoms look the same. >> >> Try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and adding: >> >> Option "PreferredMode" "1680x1050" >> >> into the "Monitor" section. > > Wow, and you can actually run X with the current fglrx driver? Oh great. And here I thought that I was behind and I'm actually ahead of the curve? Uh oh. > I have exactly the same laptop and fglrx never worked here in Jaunty. > Every time I tried to start X it froze the whole machine ( and really > frozen, only hard booting possible after it)  if I wasn't fast enough > to switch to tty1 on start. I wonder what the difference is? Do you have the 1920x1200 display, or the 1680x1050? I have the 1680x1050 screen. > I chose to use the free radeon driver instead, which of course also > means a limited set of desktop effects with XRender, as OpenGL simply > refuses to work without freezing the X session. Reproducible every > time. I may have to try that. Strangely, fglrx works fine for me except that I have to manually convert screen resolutions after logging in. glxgears reports 1229 FPS. > I have found very few reports of people actually running OpenGL with > this card, but far too poor information is available on how to > actually tweak the system to make it work again as in Intrepid... so > some detailed information on which exact xorg.conf settings needed > would be very welcome! There isn't much in my xorg.conf, but you are welcome to it. Maybe together we can get full resolution Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "aticonfig Layout" Screen 0 "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" 0 0 EndSection Section "Files" EndSection Section "Module" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0" Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver" Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor" Option "PreferredMode" "1680x1050" Option "DPMS" "true" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]-0" Driver "fglrx" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" Device "aticonfig-Device[0]-0" Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Michael From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun May 17 18:13:51 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:13:51 -0400 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems In-Reply-To: <200905171822.04287.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> <200905171822.04287.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905171413.51377.> On Sunday 17 May 2009 12:22:03 pm Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Sunday 17 May 2009 17:57:16 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > I've updated to Jaunty and am running KMail 1.11.2. I did a fresh install > > (the version upgrade tool failed as usual) to get there. > > > > Two things really impact usability. First - that "Favorite Folders" list > > at the top is just wasted space. I know and can easily access the folders > > I'm interested in. I'd like to get rid of that. > > > > The second - I have no way to classify an item as spam. I had assumed > > that it was because the "Filter - classify as spam" button was too far > > down on the list to be visible - so I moved it up above the Move to Trash > > button on the Configure toolbars screen. It still doesn't display. I need > > to find some way to get the "Classify as Spam" and "Classify as Not Spam" > > buttons to be accessible. > > > > Anyone offer any help? > > > > ---Michael > > Settings=>Configure KMail=>Appearance=>Layout=>Show Favorite Folder View > > Uncheck that Dear Michael, Click on the tools menu, then anti-spam wizzard, follow the instructions. When you click finish, you should have the right icons on your Toolbar. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun May 17 18:18:54 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (steven vollom) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:18:54 -0400 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems In-Reply-To: <200905171822.04287.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> <200905171822.04287.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905171418.54387.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Sunday 17 May 2009 12:22:03 pm Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Sunday 17 May 2009 17:57:16 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > I've updated to Jaunty and am running KMail 1.11.2. I did a fresh install > > (the version upgrade tool failed as usual) to get there. > > > > Two things really impact usability. First - that "Favorite Folders" list > > at the top is just wasted space. I know and can easily access the folders > > I'm interested in. I'd like to get rid of that. > > > > The second - I have no way to classify an item as spam. I had assumed > > that it was because the "Filter - classify as spam" button was too far > > down on the list to be visible - so I moved it up above the Move to Trash > > button on the Configure toolbars screen. It still doesn't display. I need > > to find some way to get the "Classify as Spam" and "Classify as Not Spam" > > buttons to be accessible. > > > > Anyone offer any help? > > > > ---Michael > > Settings=>Configure KMail=>Appearance=>Layout=>Show Favorite Folder View > > Uncheck that From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun May 17 18:18:18 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:18:18 -0400 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems In-Reply-To: <200905171822.04287.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> <200905171822.04287.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905171418.18133.> On Sunday 17 May 2009 12:22:03 pm Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Sunday 17 May 2009 17:57:16 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > I've updated to Jaunty and am running KMail 1.11.2. I did a fresh install > > (the version upgrade tool failed as usual) to get there. > > > > Two things really impact usability. First - that "Favorite Folders" list > > at the top is just wasted space. I know and can easily access the folders > > I'm interested in. I'd like to get rid of that. > > > > The second - I have no way to classify an item as spam. I had assumed > > that it was because the "Filter - classify as spam" button was too far > > down on the list to be visible - so I moved it up above the Move to Trash > > button on the Configure toolbars screen. It still doesn't display. I need > > to find some way to get the "Classify as Spam" and "Classify as Not Spam" > > buttons to be accessible. > > > > Anyone offer any help? > > > > ---Michael > > Settings=>Configure KMail=>Appearance=>Layout=>Show Favorite Folder View > > Uncheck that From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun May 17 18:15:11 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:15:11 -0400 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems In-Reply-To: <200905171822.04287.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> <200905171822.04287.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905171415.11890.> On Sunday 17 May 2009 12:22:03 pm Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Sunday 17 May 2009 17:57:16 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > I've updated to Jaunty and am running KMail 1.11.2. I did a fresh install > > (the version upgrade tool failed as usual) to get there. > > > > Two things really impact usability. First - that "Favorite Folders" list > > at the top is just wasted space. I know and can easily access the folders > > I'm interested in. I'd like to get rid of that. > > > > The second - I have no way to classify an item as spam. I had assumed > > that it was because the "Filter - classify as spam" button was too far > > down on the list to be visible - so I moved it up above the Move to Trash > > button on the Configure toolbars screen. It still doesn't display. I need > > to find some way to get the "Classify as Spam" and "Classify as Not Spam" > > buttons to be accessible. > > > > Anyone offer any help? > > > > ---Michael > > Settings=>Configure KMail=>Appearance=>Layout=>Show Favorite Folder View > > Uncheck that Dear Michael, Click on Tools>Anti-spam Wizzard>follow instructions, when you click finish, you will have appropriate icons on the toolbar. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun May 17 18:27:38 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:27:38 -0400 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems In-Reply-To: <200905171822.04287.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> <200905171822.04287.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905171427.38455.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Sunday 17 May 2009 12:22:03 pm Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Sunday 17 May 2009 17:57:16 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > I've updated to Jaunty and am running KMail 1.11.2. I did a fresh install > > (the version upgrade tool failed as usual) to get there. > > > > Two things really impact usability. First - that "Favorite Folders" list > > at the top is just wasted space. I know and can easily access the folders > > I'm interested in. I'd like to get rid of that. > > > > The second - I have no way to classify an item as spam. I had assumed > > that it was because the "Filter - classify as spam" button was too far > > down on the list to be visible - so I moved it up above the Move to Trash > > button on the Configure toolbars screen. It still doesn't display. I need > > to find some way to get the "Classify as Spam" and "Classify as Not Spam" > > buttons to be accessible. > > > > Anyone offer any help? > > > > ---Michael > > Settings=>Configure KMail=>Appearance=>Layout=>Show Favorite Folder View > > Uncheck that Dear Michael, Click on the Tools Menu>Anti-spam Wizzard>follow instructions and click on Finish. You will find 'ham' and 'spam' icons on your toolbar. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sun May 17 18:21:10 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (steven vollom) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:21:10 -0400 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems In-Reply-To: <200905171822.04287.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> <200905171822.04287.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905171421.11033.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Sunday 17 May 2009 12:22:03 pm Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Sunday 17 May 2009 17:57:16 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > I've updated to Jaunty and am running KMail 1.11.2. I did a fresh install > > (the version upgrade tool failed as usual) to get there. > > > > Two things really impact usability. First - that "Favorite Folders" list > > at the top is just wasted space. I know and can easily access the folders > > I'm interested in. I'd like to get rid of that. > > > > The second - I have no way to classify an item as spam. I had assumed > > that it was because the "Filter - classify as spam" button was too far > > down on the list to be visible - so I moved it up above the Move to Trash > > button on the Configure toolbars screen. It still doesn't display. I need > > to find some way to get the "Classify as Spam" and "Classify as Not Spam" > > buttons to be accessible. > > > > Anyone offer any help? > > > > ---Michael > > Settings=>Configure KMail=>Appearance=>Layout=>Show Favorite Folder View > > Uncheck that Michael, Open 'Tools' then 'Anti-spam Wizzard' then follow the instructions. When you click 'finish' you will have icons on your toolbar. Steven From kassube at gmx.net Sun May 17 18:27:32 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 20:27:32 +0200 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems In-Reply-To: <200905171257.18863.michael@weblore.com> References: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> <200905170930.35813.jongleur@liripipe.com> <200905171257.18863.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200905172027.32968.kassube@gmx.net> Michael Satterwhite wrote: > I had done this previously - and checked it again just now. The > filters are there, and the "add to toolbar" *IS* checked. I still > can't get it to come up. I suppose you have the default setup for the toolbar icons which is text alongside icons. Then click on the tiny ">>" symbol at the very right of the toolbar to reach the invisible icons. If you want icons only, you can select it at systemsettings -> appearence -> style -> fine tuning -> text position. Nils From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com Sun May 17 18:53:54 2009 From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:53:54 +0300 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems In-Reply-To: <200905171427.38455.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> <200905171822.04287.tanghus@gmail.com> <200905171427.38455.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905172154.03858.w.hamra1987@gmail.com> On Sunday 17 May 2009 21:27:38 Steven Vollom wrote: > On Sunday 17 May 2009 12:22:03 pm Thomas Olsen wrote: > > On Sunday 17 May 2009 17:57:16 Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > > I've updated to Jaunty and am running KMail 1.11.2. I did a fresh > > > install (the version upgrade tool failed as usual) to get there. > > > > > > Two things really impact usability. First - that "Favorite Folders" > > > list at the top is just wasted space. I know and can easily access the > > > folders I'm interested in. I'd like to get rid of that. > > > > > > The second - I have no way to classify an item as spam. I had assumed > > > that it was because the "Filter - classify as spam" button was too far > > > down on the list to be visible - so I moved it up above the Move to > > > Trash button on the Configure toolbars screen. It still doesn't > > > display. I need to find some way to get the "Classify as Spam" and > > > "Classify as Not Spam" buttons to be accessible. > > > > > > Anyone offer any help? > > > > > > ---Michael > > > > Settings=>Configure KMail=>Appearance=>Layout=>Show Favorite Folder View > > > > Uncheck that > > Dear Michael, > > > Click on the Tools Menu>Anti-spam Wizzard>follow instructions and click on > Finish. You will find 'ham' and 'spam' icons on your toolbar. > > Steven you sent this message more than 4 times..... -- Willy K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From michael at weblore.com Sun May 17 19:01:54 2009 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:01:54 -0500 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems In-Reply-To: <200905172027.32968.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> <200905171257.18863.michael@weblore.com> <200905172027.32968.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200905171401.55185.michael@weblore.com> On Sunday 17 May 2009 01:27:32 pm Nils Kassube wrote: > Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > I had done this previously - and checked it again just now. The > > filters are there, and the "add to toolbar" *IS* checked. I still > > can't get it to come up. > > I suppose you have the default setup for the toolbar icons which is text > alongside icons. Then click on the tiny ">>" symbol at the very right of > the toolbar to reach the invisible icons. If you want icons only, you > can select it at systemsettings -> appearence -> style -> fine tuning -> > text position. I don't have a ">>" on my screen. I remember that I did at one time, but it's not there now. What menu is the systemsettings group on? I don't see it. I really appreciate your helping me with this. Thanks much ---Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gmane at auxbuss.com Sun May 17 19:05:20 2009 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: KDE4 moving to debian testing today Message-ID: Just read that KDE4 is moving to Debian testing tonight. Hopefully, this will mean more rapid bug fixing upstream, which I hope will move down to us quickly. Fingers crossed. -- Best, Marc "Big change requires small steps." From kassube at gmx.net Sun May 17 20:05:16 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 22:05:16 +0200 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems In-Reply-To: <200905171401.55185.michael@weblore.com> References: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> <200905172027.32968.kassube@gmx.net> <200905171401.55185.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200905172205.16211.kassube@gmx.net> Michael Satterwhite wrote: > On Sunday 17 May 2009 01:27:32 pm Nils Kassube wrote: > > I suppose you have the default setup for the toolbar icons which is > > text alongside icons. Then click on the tiny ">>" symbol at the > > very right of the toolbar to reach the invisible icons. If you want > > icons only, you can select it at systemsettings -> appearence -> > > style -> fine tuning -> text position. > > I don't have a ">>" on my screen. I remember that I did at one time, > but it's not there now. Sorry, I have no idea why it may have disappeared. > What menu is the systemsettings group on? I don't see it. It is not a kmail / kontact menu but the main K-menu at the lower left of the screen. There it is either under favourites and under computer. Nils From jongleur at liripipe.com Sun May 17 20:55:44 2009 From: jongleur at liripipe.com (John L Vifian) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 13:55:44 -0700 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems In-Reply-To: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> References: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200905171355.44798.jongleur@liripipe.com> On Sunday 17 May 2009 8:57:16 am Michael Satterwhite wrote: > The second - I have no way to classify an item as spam. I had assumed that > it was because the "Filter - classify as spam" button was too far down on > the list to be visible - so I moved it up above the Move to Trash button on > the Configure toolbars screen. It still doesn't display. I need to find > some way to get the "Classify as Spam" and "Classify as Not Spam" buttons > to be accessible. OK, if I am understanding correctly you have more icons in your toolbar than you can see at one time. Can you see all of your icons if you make them the smallest size and eliminate the text descriptions? Right click on the toolbar and choose Icon Size and Text Position respectively. If you have added the Filter Classify as (Not) Spam buttons to the toolbar in the Configure toolbars dialog, the bad news is that these do not appear to work at all. :( The Spam buttons also do not appear to be repositionable, they always appear at or very near the end/bottom of the toolbar depending on the toolbar orientation. Do the filters show up in the Menu: Message->Apply Filter? John Vifian -- Q: How many Linux users does it take to change a lightbulb ? A: One, but he'll swear up and down that it was JUST as easy for him as it would be for a Window's user From mmorse757 at gmail.com Mon May 18 02:27:33 2009 From: mmorse757 at gmail.com (J. Michael Morse) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:27:33 -0500 Subject: Internet Connection Issues Message-ID: First, I had to send this email from the web interface so I apologize if it comes across in HTML. In the process of trying to copy a directory from my friend's laptop, I was mucking with my Samba (smb.conf) file. I was finally able to connect to his laptop and copy the files. Now, a couple hours later, and I try to connect to the internet I am unable to do so. Firefox does not connect, nor does Thunderbird (which is why I am sending this via the web mail instead of TB.) Strange, Konqueror will still connect to the internet. And Konqueror doesn't like Gmail's website at all. I am not sure if the inability to connect is coincidence or is directly related to fiddling with the smb.conf. I can't see how the two would be related, but that is the only part of the system I have been fiddling with lately. Any idea why Konqueror and connect but not FF & TB? I am using Linux Mint (basically, ubuntu 8.04) and KDE 3.5.10 if that information helps. Mike From kassube at gmx.net Mon May 18 05:08:15 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 07:08:15 +0200 Subject: KMail 1.11.2 problems In-Reply-To: <200905171355.44798.jongleur@liripipe.com> References: <200905171057.16313.michael@weblore.com> <200905171355.44798.jongleur@liripipe.com> Message-ID: <200905180708.15523.kassube@gmx.net> John L Vifian wrote: > Right click on the toolbar and choose Icon Size and > Text Position respectively. Hey, thanks for that tip. I never even tried if there was a context menu for the toolbar, so this is much easier than what I suggested in a previous mail. :) > If you have added the Filter Classify as (Not) Spam buttons to the > toolbar in the Configure toolbars dialog, the bad news is that these > do not appear to work at all. :( That's interesting because I just tested the kmail version of the Kubuntu 9.04 LiveCD. There the spam button seemed to work. > The Spam buttons also do not appear to be repositionable, they always > appear at or very near the end/bottom of the toolbar depending on the > toolbar orientation. I can confirm that the buttons seem to be at fixed positions although for me they were at the beginning of the toolbar. However I had changed some other buttons already before I added the spam/nospam buttons. Nils From g.lip at gmx.com Mon May 18 05:27:57 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:27:57 +0800 Subject: Internet Connection Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A10F1DD.4000908@gmx.com> J. Michael Morse wrote: > First, I had to send this email from the web interface so I apologize > if it comes across in HTML. > > In the process of trying to copy a directory from my friend's laptop, > I was mucking with my Samba (smb.conf) file. I was finally able to > connect to his laptop and copy the files. Now, a couple hours later, > and I try to connect to the internet I am unable to do so. Firefox > does not connect, nor does Thunderbird (which is why I am sending this > via the web mail instead of TB.) > Strange, Konqueror will still connect to the internet. And Konqueror > doesn't like Gmail's website at all. > > I am not sure if the inability to connect is coincidence or is > directly related to fiddling with the smb.conf. I can't see how the > two would be related, but that is the only part of the system I have > been fiddling with lately. > > Any idea why Konqueror and connect but not FF & TB? I am using Linux > Mint (basically, ubuntu 8.04) and KDE 3.5.10 if that information > helps. > > Mike > Konqueror, configure Konqueror>>Browser identification>>Add New Idntity>>mail.google.com,Safari2.0 on MacOSX2.0. Firefox/Thunderbird, Preferences>> Advanced>> Network & Disk >> Connection>> modify. Regards, Goh Lip What you cannot change is not a problem. It is a fact. It's what you do about it that's a problem. - d r From nepal.roade at googlemail.com Mon May 18 12:11:30 2009 From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal.roade at googlemail.com) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:11:30 +0100 Subject: how to reuse ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <4A0E1D23.8070407@lemmons.name> References: <200905151628.46252.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4A0E1D23.8070407@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <200905181311.30266.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> On Sat 16 May 2009 02:55:47 Paul Lemmons wrote: > The partition already exists so there is no reason to delete it. hehe, this is now of course (now that you have said it) obvious. > Just > reformat it to ext3 or 4 and mount it like you do any other partition. Yes, I did that with qtparted without problems and as I left the partition itself intact, no renumbering of the partitions occurred. > If you use gparted you can format and label it and then get the UUID of > the partition to use in mounting it. I could not find a way with either [qt]/[g]parted to get the UUID. The only way to get a UUID for a partition that I know of is from /dev/disk/by-uuid, (but the system has to have it already mounted IIUC) > You could also resize it if you > wanted to. Yes I do want to do that at some point, but that is when the partitions will be renumbered? if I split sda1 into two or more partitions I am not sure of the consequences and hence remain reluctant. nepal. From jonorland at gmail.com Mon May 18 12:38:40 2009 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 14:38:40 +0200 Subject: how to reuse ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <200905181311.30266.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> References: <200905151628.46252.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4A0E1D23.8070407@lemmons.name> <200905181311.30266.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM, wrote: > On Sat 16 May 2009 02:55:47 Paul Lemmons wrote: >> The partition already exists so there is no reason to delete it. > > hehe, this is now of course (now that you have said it) obvious. > >> Just >> reformat it to ext3 or 4 and mount it like you do any other partition. > > Yes, I did that with qtparted without problems and as I left the partition > itself intact, no renumbering of the partitions occurred. > >> If you use gparted you can format and label it and then get the UUID of >> the partition to use in mounting it. > > I could not find a way with either [qt]/[g]parted to get the UUID. The only way > to get a UUID for a partition that I know of is from /dev/disk/by-uuid, (but > the system has to have it already mounted IIUC) > You can use the vol_id CLI program to get labels and UUID from a partition. / Jonas From paulatgm at gmail.com Mon May 18 12:59:48 2009 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:59:48 -0400 Subject: 4.3 beta control-w bug Message-ID: <4A115BC4.8050604@gmail.com> cntl-w fails to close a tab in ff or konqueror or a window in tbird. searching through the keyboard shortcuts reveals that there's a khotkey configuring cntl-w in qtdesigner. disabling this (setting to None) makes it possible for cntl-w to work in ff et.al. hth others From thorntreehome at gmail.com Mon May 18 13:09:49 2009 From: thorntreehome at gmail.com (Thorny) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 06:09:49 -0700 Subject: how to reuse ntfs partition? References: <200905151628.46252.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4A0E1D23.8070407@lemmons.name> <200905181311.30266.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 18 May 2009 13:11:30 +0100, nepal.roade posted: > [...] > I could not find a way with either [qt]/[g]parted to get the UUID. The > only way to get a UUID for a partition that I know of is from > /dev/disk/by-uuid, (but the system has to have it already mounted IIUC) > Try the command,blkid, as root, to get a listing of all the partitions your system sees. The partitions do not need to be mounted. Or more specifically, blkid (device node) for the specific device i.e. blkid /dev/sda1 > Yes I do want to do that at some point, but that is when the partitions > will be renumbered? if I split sda1 into two or more partitions I am not > sure of the consequences and hence remain reluctant. > Yes, wise to be careful when what you do will renumber partitions. From mdhirsch at gmail.com Mon May 18 15:30:21 2009 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:30:21 -0600 Subject: Xorg on Thinkpad W500 and Jaunty In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0905171108ld0aac49gccef3f8f108673a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c2aabaf0905170033y17301b3elfa6e26e546c980ca@mail.gmail.com> <200905171046.16680.fatgerman@ntlworld.com> <9c2aabaf0905171108ld0aac49gccef3f8f108673a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0905180830j75265092u5e89bd49658eaedb@mail.gmail.com> Okay, this is strange (but welcome). I have a docking station at work and an external monitor. It works great with dual monitors. Unlike with intrepid I have it actually doing xinerama correctly, something I never got working before. I just used aticonfig to create the config and it worked the first time. I get the desired resolution and everything. Here's the command I used: aticonfig -i xorg.conf -o xorg.conf --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=right --xinerama=on Here's my dual screen xorg.conf: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "aticonfig Layout" Screen 0 "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" 0 0 Screen "aticonfig-Screen[0]-1" RightOf "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" EndSection Section "Files" EndSection Section "Module" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" Option "Xinerama" "on" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Configured Monitor" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0" Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver" Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor" Option "DPMS" "true" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-1" Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver" Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor" Option "DPMS" "true" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]-0" Driver "fglrx" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]-1" Driver "fglrx" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Screen 1 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Configured Video Device" Monitor "Configured Monitor" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" Device "aticonfig-Device[0]-0" Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1680x1050" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]-1" Device "aticonfig-Device[0]-1" Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[0]-1" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection I hope that helps someone, Michael From mmorse757 at gmail.com Mon May 18 16:00:03 2009 From: mmorse757 at gmail.com (J. Michael Morse) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 11:00:03 -0500 Subject: Reinstalling 8.04 Message-ID: I have decided that I am going to reinstall Kubuntu 8.04. I have googled looking for a particular website that I reviewed the last time I installed 8.04 but I can't seem to find it. Basically, I want a separate /home partition so that if/when I upgrade or switch distros in the future, I won't lose my stuff. Is there a "how to" page on the Kubuntu website? I looked there also, but had no luck there either. Can someone please provide a decent tutorial website that would provide instructions for doing this? Thanks, Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul at lemmons.name Mon May 18 16:24:34 2009 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:24:34 -0700 Subject: how to reuse ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <200905181311.30266.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> References: <200905151628.46252.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> <4A0E1D23.8070407@lemmons.name> <200905181311.30266.nepal.roade@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4A118BC2.6030202@lemmons.name> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:how to reuse ntfs partition? From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Date: 05/18/2009 05:11 AM > On Sat 16 May 2009 02:55:47 Paul Lemmons wrote: > > I could not find a way with either [qt]/[g]parted to get the UUID. in gparted, right-click on the partition and select information from the menu. The dialog that returns will have the UUID in it. -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Well, yes I use the 1920x1200 resolution now, but can change this, only it didn't help when I first installed Jaunty. >> I chose to use the free radeon driver instead, which of course also >> means a limited set of desktop effects with XRender, as OpenGL simply >> refuses to work without freezing the X session. Reproducible every >> time. > > I may have to try that.  Strangely, fglrx works fine for me except > that I have to manually convert screen resolutions after logging in. > glxgears reports 1229 FPS. Unfortunately glxears only tells you the potential acceleration speed with a very approximate precision, it's not an benchmark or an indication that it will actually work, this depends entirely on the driver and X settings. >> I have found very few reports of people actually running OpenGL with >> this card, but far too poor information is available on how to >> actually tweak the system to make it work again as in Intrepid... so >> some detailed information on which exact xorg.conf settings needed >> would be very welcome! > > There isn't much in my xorg.conf, but you are welcome to it.  Maybe > together we can get full resolution Thanks a lot, Michael, I will give it a try as soon as my workload allows it and report back. Just be patient, there are a lot of thinks in my pipeline right now with higher priority so this will have to wait. But I am sure this could also help others, so posting ones xorg.conf settings is always a good idea, as it will end up in the search engines for others to try. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From gargoylesmiles at yahoo.com Mon May 18 16:50:53 2009 From: gargoylesmiles at yahoo.com (samuel obirieze) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Wallpaper for each desktop In-Reply-To: References: <999122.1571.qm@web65409.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94b29c3f0905140158i33aa9141sa5b92f32444b316@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <33102.94625.qm@web65413.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I saw dat in a kubuntu 9.04 preview I watched on youtube, the guy was using the desktop cube application and when the cube was rotated, a diff pic was used as d wall paper. ________________________________ From: Myriam Schweingruber To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 4:15:33 PM Subject: Re: Wallpaper for each desktop Hi all, On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:58, Florian Jacquemet wrote: > samuel obirieze wrote: > > How do i put a different wall paper for each desktop. > > > It'll be great on kde4! Has someone an idea?? That should be doable in the future, just stay tuned for the future KDE 4 version. For now, you can add desktop activities with different backgrounds, widgets, etc. by choosing the 'cashew'-shaped Icon on the upper right on your desktop. You will have to unlock the widgets first, of course. Don't forget to add the 'Activity Bar' widget so you can switch easily from one activity to another. Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon May 18 17:17:08 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (steven vollom) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:17:08 -0400 Subject: Reinstalling 8.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905181317.08909.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Monday 18 May 2009 12:00:03 pm J. Michael Morse wrote: > I have decided that I am going to reinstall Kubuntu 8.04. I have googled > looking for a particular website that I reviewed the last time I installed > 8.04 but I can't seem to find it. Basically, I want a separate /home > partition so that if/when I upgrade or switch distros in the future, I > won't lose my stuff. Is there a "how to" page on the Kubuntu website? I > looked there also, but had no luck there either. Can someone please > provide a decent tutorial website that would provide instructions for doing > this? > > Thanks, > > Michael Dear Michael, I just reinstalled the Rc Jaunty with Kde 4.2.3. The complete installation took me 20 minutes including configuring Kmail so I could answer this email. If you are interested in Jaunty, I can give you the setup where you won't lose data if you have system crashes with any application, including your OS, but I this can be best done using Jaunty. What are the details about your computer. Processor, memory, video card, etc. If you are running nVidia chip or video card, you have to include an entry in your boot record, pci=nomci, however that done, your computer should run great. They key to keeping your data safe from a crash is by naming your mount points for partitions as follows: /home/michael for your main partition, and if you have a backup partition, name it /home/michael/backup. If you do this, all saved data will be located in a partition outside your OS, so if you have any kind of catastrophic crash, you don't lose any data. Additionally, all of your data will be contained in the /home directory, so you can open Dolphin split-screen and copy data from your home directory to your /home/michael/backup directory. It is so simple you will never want to change how you set up, I believe. I run a 64bit quad with lots of memory, so I need Jaunty to perform best. If you are reasonably current with technology, it is probably the best choice for you too. I tell you one thing, most people who do not like the new system, are just used to the old way. I really believe the new system is far better, faster, and easier to locate the things you want. It just takes a few days to get used to the new way. If your setup is for a business, get your help from someone else, because my experience is just personal use, and I think there may be better setups for a business, I just don't know. If you want to use Intrepid, you can still best protect your data from loss by naming your mount points on your partitions always with the /home/michael first, then whatever you want to name the partition you are addressing. Additionally, literally everything in your computer except the OS will be on- screen when you open /home/michael, even your backup partition and for instance if you have a partition for movies it will show too, just make sure to mount the Movies Partition this way, /home/michael/movies. If you have a partition for photos, name the mount point as /home/michael/photographs. Anytime you open your /home directory your backup partition will be in a folder named backup, your movie partition will will be in a folder named movies and your photographs will be in a folder named fotographs. It can't get any simpler than that. I had a computer genius friend from South Africa help me get squared on this; I'd give you his name, but he prefers his privacy. I am in Ohio, so if you want telephone help and want to do this, you can call and I will help you set it up. I can get you to a fully installed Jaunty including updates and email configured and ready in about 20 minutes, providing your internet speed is DSL at least with 3mb service. If you can download at rates of 300kpbs, it will only take you 20 minutes to get to the point of installing the applications you want to install and their configuration. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon May 18 18:11:47 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (steven vollom) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 14:11:47 -0400 Subject: Reinstalling 8.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905181411.47226.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Monday 18 May 2009 12:00:03 pm J. Michael Morse wrote: > I have decided that I am going to reinstall Kubuntu 8.04. I have googled > looking for a particular website that I reviewed the last time I installed > 8.04 but I can't seem to find it. Basically, I want a separate /home > partition so that if/when I upgrade or switch distros in the future, I > won't lose my stuff. Is there a "how to" page on the Kubuntu website? I > looked there also, but had no luck there either. Can someone please > provide a decent tutorial website that would provide instructions for doing > this? > > Thanks, > > Michael Michael, it is as easy as setting your paritions with the mount point /home/michael to do what you want. You don't need a tutorial. When all your partitions are preceded by /home/michael/ + what ever identity you want to add to make them easily distinguished, that is all you need. Then your applications are run on your boot partition and all your data is saved on your storage partitions, which should all be named /home/michael/. This will work on any OS, I believe. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon May 18 18:44:35 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (steven vollom) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 14:44:35 -0400 Subject: permission Message-ID: <200905181444.35875.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> I just installed Digikam in Jaunty kde 4.2.3. It said I did not have permission. I typed sudo digikam into a terminal and got the following: steven at Yeshua:~$ sudo digikam Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. digikam(5182) Digikam::DigikamFirstRun::DigikamFirstRun: "/home/steven/Pictures" steven at Yeshua:~$ What do I do and how do I do it to get appropriate permission and permissions fixed? Thanks. A neighbor was burglarized this morning and I took pictures for him. Thanks! Steven From tuxebi at gmx.de Mon May 18 18:56:05 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:56:05 +0200 Subject: Reinstalling 8.04 In-Reply-To: <200905181317.08909.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905181317.08909.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: steven vollom wrote: > > I tell you one thing, most people who do not like the new system, are just > used to the old way. I really believe the new system is far better, faster, > and easier to locate the things you want. It just takes a few days to get > used to the new way. > Fully agreed. If there is not a very good reason to use 8.04, Jaunty is way ahead, especially in regard to the "K" in Kubuntu. Kind regards Eberhard From tuxebi at gmx.de Mon May 18 18:57:59 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:57:59 +0200 Subject: permission In-Reply-To: <200905181444.35875.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905181444.35875.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: steven vollom wrote: > I just installed Digikam in Jaunty kde 4.2.3. It said I did not have > permission. I typed sudo digikam into a terminal and got the following: > steven at Yeshua:~$ sudo digikam > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > Error: "/tmp/kde-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > digikam(5182) Digikam::DigikamFirstRun::DigikamFirstRun: > "/home/steven/Pictures" > steven at Yeshua:~$ > > What do I do and how do I do it to get appropriate permission and permissions > fixed? Thanks. A neighbor was burglarized this morning and I took pictures > for him. Thanks! > > Steven > > Dear Steven, when you use konsole and type digicam i.e. without sudo, what is the exact error that you get? Thanks and kind regards Eberhard From mmorse757 at gmail.com Mon May 18 19:05:42 2009 From: mmorse757 at gmail.com (J. Michael Morse) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 14:05:42 -0500 Subject: Reinstalling 8.04 In-Reply-To: References: <200905181317.08909.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > steven vollom wrote: > >> >> I tell you one thing, most people who do not like the new system, are just >> used to the old way. I really believe the new system is far better, faster, >> and easier to locate the things you want. It just takes a few days to get >> used to the new way. >> > > Fully agreed. If there is not a very good reason to use 8.04, Jaunty is > way ahead, especially in regard to the "K" in Kubuntu. I /like/ 8.04. Personal preference is my reason for wanting to use 8.04. ;) I have an easier question. If I am installing on a HD that is 120G in size unformatted, what percentage of the disk should the /home partition be? Mike From tuxebi at gmx.de Mon May 18 19:26:13 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:26:13 +0200 Subject: Reinstalling 8.04 In-Reply-To: References: <200905181317.08909.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: J. Michael Morse wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: >> steven vollom wrote: >> >>> I tell you one thing, most people who do not like the new system, are just >>> used to the old way. I really believe the new system is far better, faster, >>> and easier to locate the things you want. It just takes a few days to get >>> used to the new way. >>> >> Fully agreed. If there is not a very good reason to use 8.04, Jaunty is >> way ahead, especially in regard to the "K" in Kubuntu. > > I /like/ 8.04. Personal preference is my reason for wanting to use 8.04. ;) > > I have an easier question. If I am installing on a HD that is 120G in > size unformatted, what percentage of the disk should the /home > partition be? > > Mike > Very easy: All the rest. ;-) Let's say you go for a desktop and use 30GB for / and 4GB for swap, all of the remaining space will be happily serving you as /home. This is not to say that you will need 30GB for /. Fwiw my / is currently at 12GB out of 30GB. Kind regards Eberhard From mmorse757 at gmail.com Mon May 18 19:42:21 2009 From: mmorse757 at gmail.com (J. Michael Morse) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 14:42:21 -0500 Subject: Reinstalling 8.04 In-Reply-To: References: <200905181317.08909.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > J. Michael Morse wrote: >> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: >>> steven vollom wrote: >>> >>>> I tell you one thing, most people who do not like the new system, are just >>>> used to the old way. I really believe the new system is far better, faster, >>>> and easier to locate the things you want. It just takes a few days to get >>>> used to the new way. >>>> >>> Fully agreed. If there is not a very good reason to use 8.04, Jaunty is >>> way ahead, especially in regard to the "K" in Kubuntu. >> >> I /like/ 8.04. Personal preference is my reason for wanting to use 8.04. ;) >> >> I have an easier question. If I am installing on a HD that is 120G in >> size unformatted, what percentage of the disk should the /home >> partition be? >> >> Mike >> > Very easy: All the rest. ;-) > > Let's say you go for a desktop and use 30GB for / and 4GB for swap, all > of the remaining space will be happily serving you as /home. > > This is not to say that you will need 30GB for /. Fwiw my / is currently > at 12GB out of 30GB. > > Kind regards > Eberhard Thanks! These are the numbers I am going to use for no other reason than you are the only one who responded so far. I do have one (hopefully last) question: does it matter what order the partitions are in? It has been a while since I did an install. If I am not mistaken, the installation makes you do the / first. From tuxebi at gmx.de Mon May 18 19:56:16 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:56:16 +0200 Subject: Reinstalling 8.04 In-Reply-To: References: <200905181317.08909.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: J. Michael Morse wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: >> J. Michael Morse wrote: >>> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Eberhard Roloff wrote: >>>> steven vollom wrote: >>>> >>>>> I tell you one thing, most people who do not like the new system, are just >>>>> used to the old way. I really believe the new system is far better, faster, >>>>> and easier to locate the things you want. It just takes a few days to get >>>>> used to the new way. >>>>> >>>> Fully agreed. If there is not a very good reason to use 8.04, Jaunty is >>>> way ahead, especially in regard to the "K" in Kubuntu. >>> I /like/ 8.04. Personal preference is my reason for wanting to use 8.04. ;) >>> >>> I have an easier question. If I am installing on a HD that is 120G in >>> size unformatted, what percentage of the disk should the /home >>> partition be? >>> >>> Mike >>> >> Very easy: All the rest. ;-) >> >> Let's say you go for a desktop and use 30GB for / and 4GB for swap, all >> of the remaining space will be happily serving you as /home. >> >> This is not to say that you will need 30GB for /. Fwiw my / is currently >> at 12GB out of 30GB. >> >> Kind regards >> Eberhard > > > Thanks! These are the numbers I am going to use for no other reason > than you are the only one who responded so far. I do have one > (hopefully last) question: does it matter what order the partitions > are in? no. With linux this absolutely does not matter. Just in the unlikely case that you have a very old machine, the / or at least /boot should be where the BIOS can access it. Assuming that you had a 500gb Disk but your Bios could only recognize 120GB of it, then you would use this for the Linux start partition(s). After starting, Linux fully takes over from the Bios and you can use any disk that Linux can use. It has been a while since I did an install. If I am not > mistaken, the installation makes you do the / first. > Yes, I think so, but again, it does not matter. Just take care, that if you plan to use windows "natively" at some point, i.e. not virtualized, then windows needs to start from the first primary partition. kind regards Eberhard From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon May 18 21:15:46 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (steven vollom) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 17:15:46 -0400 Subject: Reinstalling 8.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905181715.47119.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> > (hopefully last) question: does it matter what order the partitions > are in? It has been a while since I did an install. If I am not > mistaken, the installation makes you do the / first. I have 1.5TB of HDD and I use 20gb for Jaunty KDE 4.2.3. I did a complete install with 470gb of existing data in my computer. I formatted, installed, updated and configured Kmail to be able to write to the List. It all took just 20 minutes. I was trying to complete in less than an hour, so timed it. I put all the data in the 500gb HDD and only set the mount point. I set the mount point to /home/steven/backup2 on the 500gb SATA drive. By the way, I used the ext4 file type for everything. I created a 450gb partition with mount point /home/steven/backup, I created a 460gb partition mounted as /home/steven. I formatted and mounted as root 20gb and installed Jaunty. Installation took about 7 minutes. I downloaded and installed updates which took about 10 minutes; I configured kmail, received 8 emails read them and answered one in 3 minutes. The complete install including adding kmail and moving data to the 500gb HDD took 31 minutes total. My HDD's are SATA. I copied data from backup2 to backup about 130gb in 31 minutes. I spent another 1/2 hour installing Kubuntu Restricted Extras and a couple of applications which took another 35 minutes, including about 45gb additional movement of data from disk to disk, which covered the OS backup and pictures, and saved art. That took 16 minutes. I have to admit moving data on a SATA is different. Data going from the TB drive to the 500GB drive traveled at between 20 and 40mbps, while data transferring from the smaller drive to the larger drive went 50 to 60mbps average. The highest transfer took place at 77.?mbps. And, I suspect, some of that speed came from the ext4 file system. It is really something to see data move that fast. In contrast, when I installed Intrepid, it took an hour to install the OS, an hour and 1/2 installing updates, an hour installing kubuntu restricted extras, and in 3 months, I never got kmail installed. By the way internet and lan installed and configured during the jaunty installation, so there was nothing to do there. Additionally there is a widget that can be installed to create the traditional menu based application for Intrepid die-hards, but if they don't take time to get used to the new KDE, it is silly, because the new is better and only takes a few days to get used to. A few years ago during a change in the Olympics regulations, several swimmers changed to the new technology swim suits and shaved several seconds off their time, however there were also people who lost by a part of a second who stuck by their old swim suits and did not get a medal. By the way the new tech swimmers got gold, silver and bronze. Close as I can get for a parable for the KDE Jaunty controversy. I apologize for being so opinionated, however if you have been on the list very long, you will recognize me as perhaps the least capable operator of the Linux OS. Nonetheless, I have strong opinion on this issue. Jaunty KDE 4.2.3 is not only easier for the dumb ones like me, but it works better, and is extremely fast. Additionally, I run most of the glitzy stuff. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Mon May 18 21:28:53 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (steven vollom) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 17:28:53 -0400 Subject: **RESOLVED**Re: permission In-Reply-To: References: <200905181444.35875.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905181728.54014.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Monday 18 May 2009 02:57:59 pm Eberhard Roloff wrote: > steven vollom wrote: > > I just installed Digikam in Jaunty kde 4.2.3. It said I did not have > > permission. I typed sudo digikam into a terminal and got the following: > > steven at Yeshua:~$ sudo digikam > > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > Error: "/tmp/kde-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > > digikam(5182) Digikam::DigikamFirstRun::DigikamFirstRun: > > "/home/steven/Pictures" > > steven at Yeshua:~$ > > > > What do I do and how do I do it to get appropriate permission and > > permissions fixed? Thanks. A neighbor was burglarized this morning and > > I took pictures for him. Thanks! > > > > Steven > > Dear Steven, > > when you use konsole and type > digicam > > i.e. without sudo, what is the exact error that you get? I can't remember what it was before, but I think the comment was something like no such file or directory. Nice to hear your voice, my friend. I finally got it to work, however I had a permissions problem. The first couple of times, I got it to show read and write permission for the owner, with the box at the bottom checked for all folders etc. Still twice, it retained root root at the bottom. Then finally it accepted the instruction on the third attempt, and it works now, just before I answered your email. From claydoh at midmaine.com Mon May 18 22:49:49 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (clay weber) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 18:49:49 -0400 Subject: **RESOLVED**Re: permission In-Reply-To: <200905181728.54014.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905181444.35875.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905181728.54014.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A11E60D.3070107@midmaine.com> steven vollom wrote: > On Monday 18 May 2009 02:57:59 pm Eberhard Roloff wrote: >> steven vollom wrote: >>> I just installed Digikam in Jaunty kde 4.2.3. It said I did not have >>> permission. I typed sudo digikam into a terminal and got the following: >>> steven at Yeshua:~$ sudo digikam >>> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. >>> Error: "/tmp/kde-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. >>> digikam(5182) Digikam::DigikamFirstRun::DigikamFirstRun: >>> "/home/steven/Pictures" >>> steven at Yeshua:~$ >>> >>> What do I do and how do I do it to get appropriate permission and >>> permissions fixed? Thanks. A neighbor was burglarized this morning and >>> I took pictures for him. Thanks! >>> >>> Steven >> Dear Steven, >> >> when you use konsole and type >> digicam >> >> i.e. without sudo, what is the exact error that you get? > > I can't remember what it was before, but I think the comment was something > like no such file or directory. > > Nice to hear your voice, my friend. I finally got it to work, however I had a > permissions problem. The first couple of times, I got it to show read and > write permission for the owner, with the box at the bottom checked for all > folders etc. Still twice, it retained root root at the bottom. Then finally > it accepted the instruction on the third attempt, and it works now, just > before I answered your email. > There should be no reason to run a non-admin program or tool using sudo or kdesudo (for GUI apps), else you can have problems such as this. While it is not too hard to fix, it is annoying to figure it out if you have never come across the issue before clay From paulatgm at gmail.com Mon May 18 23:08:37 2009 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:08:37 -0400 Subject: getting Fn and multimedia keys working in kde4 Message-ID: <4A11EA75.5040209@gmail.com> My Fn-F10 (eject) won't work on kde4. On kde3, I could use input actions to configure the Fn-F10 to issue the eject command. When I try it on kde4, I get a popup saying that Qt does not support that key. Same with Fn-F2 (battery). Same with some of the multimedia keys on my usb multimedia keyboard (sleep, stop, reload, Tools, Explorer). I upgraded to 4.3beta with same results. Any ideas how to get these working? From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue May 19 00:12:06 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (steven vollom) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:12:06 -0400 Subject: **RESOLVED**Re: permission In-Reply-To: <4A11E60D.3070107@midmaine.com> References: <200905181444.35875.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905181728.54014.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A11E60D.3070107@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <200905182012.06275.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> On Monday 18 May 2009 06:49:49 pm clay weber wrote: > steven vollom wrote: > > On Monday 18 May 2009 02:57:59 pm Eberhard Roloff wrote: > >> steven vollom wrote: > >>> I just installed Digikam in Jaunty kde 4.2.3. It said I did not have > >>> permission. I typed sudo digikam into a terminal and got the > >>> following: steven at Yeshua:~$ sudo digikam > >>> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid > >>> 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. > >>> digikam(5182) Digikam::DigikamFirstRun::DigikamFirstRun: > >>> "/home/steven/Pictures" > >>> steven at Yeshua:~$ > >>> > >>> What do I do and how do I do it to get appropriate permission and > >>> permissions fixed? Thanks. A neighbor was burglarized this morning > >>> and I took pictures for him. Thanks! > >>> > >>> Steven > >> > >> Dear Steven, > >> > >> when you use konsole and type > >> digicam > >> > >> i.e. without sudo, what is the exact error that you get? > > > > I can't remember what it was before, but I think the comment was > > something like no such file or directory. > > > > Nice to hear your voice, my friend. I finally got it to work, however I > > had a permissions problem. The first couple of times, I got it to show > > read and write permission for the owner, with the box at the bottom > > checked for all folders etc. Still twice, it retained root root at the > > bottom. Then finally it accepted the instruction on the third attempt, > > and it works now, just before I answered your email. > > There should be no reason to run a non-admin program or tool using sudo > or kdesudo (for GUI apps), else you can have problems such as this. > While it is not too hard to fix, it is annoying to figure it out if you > have never come across the issue before > > > clay The only reason I used sudo is because I was refused the program due to lack of permission. I just tried sudo, like I would if using sudo Dolphin to change permissions. It did not work the first two times. It said Owner had read/write however it remained root root down below in the box. The third time it worked and permission was changed, and I could use the application. What would you have tried if you wanted to download pictures and were refused due to a permission deficiency? I have never come across the problem before either, and I have a fresh install of Jaunty with my partitions finally properly mounted, my system backed up properly, and just basic daily applications installed. My neighbor was just burglarized and did not have a camera to record the damage. He asked if I would take pictures and make a cd for him. I did, but did not yet have digikam installed. This is the first time I have had trouble installing digikam. Nonetheless, it is the first time I have had a 64 bit system. I never really know if new problems are due to the 64 bit applications, but that is what is different for me. Oh, I also have all partitions with ext4 file systems for the first time. FYI, I transferred 130gb of data into my backup in 31 minutes. It was incredible. I believe I will have less problems now. For the first time, I have all my partitions mounted in /home/steven. It is great, I can open dolphin in split screen and move every piece of saved data from the one open application. Additionally, no data is ever really in any jeopardy due to crash of application, only drive failure, and I have my data saved on two new drives. Steven From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue May 19 00:20:42 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (steven vollom) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:20:42 -0400 Subject: Lightscribe 64bit Jaunty KDE 4.2.3 Message-ID: <200905182020.42934.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> I found data relating to installation of Lightscribe, howeve, the links did not work. Sudo apt-get install Lightscribe did not work, nor did kpackagekit or synaptic. My writer has the capability; it would be nice to be able to use it. None of the google entries help. Steven From claydoh at midmaine.com Tue May 19 00:52:39 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (clay weber) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:52:39 -0400 Subject: **RESOLVED**Re: permission In-Reply-To: <200905182012.06275.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905181444.35875.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905181728.54014.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A11E60D.3070107@midmaine.com> <200905182012.06275.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A1202D7.5020309@midmaine.com> steven vollom wrote: > On Monday 18 May 2009 06:49:49 pm clay weber wrote: >> steven vollom wrote: >>> On Monday 18 May 2009 02:57:59 pm Eberhard Roloff wrote: >>>> steven vollom wrote: >>>>> I just installed Digikam in Jaunty kde 4.2.3. It said I did not have >>>>> permission. I typed sudo digikam into a terminal and got the >>>>> following: steven at Yeshua:~$ sudo digikam >>>>> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid >>>>> 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. >>>>> digikam(5182) Digikam::DigikamFirstRun::DigikamFirstRun: >>>>> "/home/steven/Pictures" >>>>> steven at Yeshua:~$ >>>>> >>>>> What do I do and how do I do it to get appropriate permission and >>>>> permissions fixed? Thanks. A neighbor was burglarized this morning >>>>> and I took pictures for him. Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Steven >>>> Dear Steven, >>>> >>>> when you use konsole and type >>>> digicam >>>> >>>> i.e. without sudo, what is the exact error that you get? >>> I can't remember what it was before, but I think the comment was >>> something like no such file or directory. >>> >>> Nice to hear your voice, my friend. I finally got it to work, however I >>> had a permissions problem. The first couple of times, I got it to show >>> read and write permission for the owner, with the box at the bottom >>> checked for all folders etc. Still twice, it retained root root at the >>> bottom. Then finally it accepted the instruction on the third attempt, >>> and it works now, just before I answered your email. >> There should be no reason to run a non-admin program or tool using sudo >> or kdesudo (for GUI apps), else you can have problems such as this. >> While it is not too hard to fix, it is annoying to figure it out if you >> have never come across the issue before >> >> >> clay > The only reason I used sudo is because I was refused the program due to lack > of permission. Permissions of the files and folders and not the *program* most likely. I am guessing something being run with sudo changed those permissions on your personal config files/folders. > I just tried sudo, like I would if using sudo Dolphin to change permissions. > It did not work the first two times. It said Owner had read/write however it Use kdesudo instead of sudo for GUI apps, and you won't see these problems. And only use kdesudo for admin tools - such as kate or dolphin. Digikam, amarok, openoffice, etc don't need admin privileges I would have run 'digikam' (without kdesudo) in a terminal to see the exact error message was (if any error popup didn't give any specifics), it probably would have spit out what file or folder the digikam could not open. . > remained root root down below in the box. The third time it worked and > permission was changed, and I could use the application. What would you have > tried if you wanted to download pictures and were refused due to a permission > deficiency? > I have never come across the problem before either, and I have a fresh install > of Jaunty with my partitions finally properly mounted, my system backed up > properly, and just basic daily applications installed. > > My neighbor was just burglarized and did not have a camera to record the > damage. He asked if I would take pictures and make a cd for him. I did, but > did not yet have digikam installed. This is the first time I have had trouble > installing digikam. Nonetheless, it is the first time I have had a 64 bit > system. I never really know if new problems are due to the 64 bit > applications, but that is what is different for me. 64 bit is not an issue here Oh, I also have all > partitions with ext4 file systems for the first time That may be a problem area, unless things were fixed. I had many permission problems while using the 9.04 betas with ext4 on my /home - there were numerous bug reports specific to KDE and ext4, but I do not know if there was any resolution. I use ext4 on my /, and ext3 on my /home at the moment with no issues, but it's old hardware . FYI, I transferred 130gb > of data into my backup in 31 minutes. It was incredible. I can't wait to get a couple of sata drives to see some real speed like that :) > I believe I will have less problems now. For the first time, I have all my > partitions mounted in /home/steven. It is great, I can open dolphin in split > screen and move every piece of saved data from the one open application. > Additionally, no data is ever really in any jeopardy due to crash of > application, only drive failure, and I have my data saved on two new drives. > > Steven > Clay From david at dmcentral.net Tue May 19 01:10:56 2009 From: david at dmcentral.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:10:56 -0400 Subject: Lightscribe 64bit Jaunty KDE 4.2.3 In-Reply-To: <200905182020.42934.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905182020.42934.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905182110.56422.david@dmcentral.net> On Monday 18 May 2009 08:20:42 pm steven vollom wrote: > I found data relating to installation of Lightscribe, howeve, the links did > not work. Sudo apt-get install Lightscribe did not work, nor did > kpackagekit or synaptic. My writer has the capability; it would be nice to > be able to use it. None of the google entries help. I feel your pain Steven ;-) I use Nero in my XP virtual machine to do lightscribing. Sad but true. -- Blessings David M. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue May 19 03:25:14 2009 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (steven vollom) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 23:25:14 -0400 Subject: New installation Jaunty constant permissions problems Message-ID: <200905182325.14264.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> File:///home/steven/.kde/share/config/arkrc. I open arkrc using sudo dolphin and change the permissions so that I can use the program. The permissions are not greyed out, and I am able to change them to give me permission, but when I click OK, no permissions are transferred to me. I can't tell you how angry this makes me. If we are supporting freedom, why do the owners of their own computers have to fight with programmers to get permission to use what is their own. Every time I turn around I am stopped from doing something I need to do by my own computer. I love Kubuntu, but I will trash my computer before I give over my freedom. To the people who make these decisions for me. I hate it. I just don't dislike it, I hate it. As much as I have loved the Kubuntu experience, I hate the prison you are trying to put me in. I will quit Kubuntu before I give in. I am one of your staunchest supporters, yet I am growing to HATE you for this robbery of my freedom. You have never been there to help me when I needed you, when the burglar with a gun is trying to rob me. Stay the hell out of my computer's freedom. I had a mother and father, I don't want a replacement. I have never worked for someone else, and I don't want a boss. I have defended myself from all attackers for my entire life. It is always some gutless guy in the background who tries to take power over you, someond who would cut and run if any real danger came his way. The best creation you have made to date is a pile of crap, if I have to use it the way you want me to use it. Create a code that when entered takes your ability to control, guide, inhibit the use of my computer and you will keep me. As good a salesman as I can be for you, I will passionately be against you, if you don't stop this nonsence. I thought Linux people loved freedom. What a line of bul.sh.t. You are just Nazis in sheep clothing when you steal the freedom of the people who support you. What does a person have to do to get away from the tyrants of this world. If someone who knows the way around this tyranny can explain how I get around the prison they want me in, please help me. There must be someone out there with the knowledge to help that hates this intrusion on their own freedom. It takes a lot to make me angry, but I am willing to die for my freedom. That is how serious I am about this crap. I am sorry but no other word that I will use fits. Steven From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue May 19 03:27:04 2009 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 22:27:04 -0500 Subject: Lightscribe 64bit Jaunty KDE 4.2.3 In-Reply-To: <200905182110.56422.david@dmcentral.net> References: <200905182020.42934.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905182110.56422.david@dmcentral.net> Message-ID: <4A122708.1040209@swbell.net> David McGlone wrote: > On Monday 18 May 2009 08:20:42 pm steven vollom wrote: > >> I found data relating to installation of Lightscribe, howeve, the links did >> not work. Sudo apt-get install Lightscribe did not work, nor did >> kpackagekit or synaptic. My writer has the capability; it would be nice to >> be able to use it. None of the google entries help. >> > > I feel your pain Steven ;-) > > I use Nero in my XP virtual machine to do lightscribing. Sad but true. > > Have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LightScriben ? -- Treat all stressful situations like a dog does. If you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away From g.lip at gmx.com Tue May 19 05:55:45 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:55:45 +0800 Subject: New installation Jaunty constant permissions problems In-Reply-To: <200905182325.14264.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905182325.14264.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: steven vollom wrote: > File:///home/steven/.kde/share/config/arkrc. I open arkrc using sudo dolphin > and change the permissions so that I can use the program. The permissions are > not greyed out, and I am able to change them to give me permission, but when I > click OK, no permissions are transferred to me. I can't tell you how angry > this makes me. If we are supporting freedom, why do the owners of their own > computers have to fight with programmers to get permission to use what is their > own. Every time I turn around I am stopped from doing something I need to do > by my own computer. I love Kubuntu, but I will trash my computer before I > give over my freedom. > > To the people who make these decisions for me. I hate it. I just don't > dislike it, I hate it. As much as I have loved the Kubuntu experience, I hate > the prison you are trying to put me in. I will quit Kubuntu before I give in. > I am one of your staunchest supporters, yet I am growing to HATE you for this > robbery of my freedom. You have never been there to help me when I needed > you, when the burglar with a gun is trying to rob me. Stay the hell out of my > computer's freedom. I had a mother and father, I don't want a replacement. I > have never worked for someone else, and I don't want a boss. I have defended > myself from all attackers for my entire life. It is always some gutless guy > in the background who tries to take power over you, someond who would cut and > run if any real danger came his way. The best creation you have made to date > is a pile of crap, if I have to use it the way you want me to use it. > > Create a code that when entered takes your ability to control, guide, inhibit > the use of my computer and you will keep me. As good a salesman as I can be > for you, I will passionately be against you, if you don't stop this nonsence. > > I thought Linux people loved freedom. What a line of bul.sh.t. You are just > Nazis in sheep clothing when you steal the freedom of the people who support > you. What does a person have to do to get away from the tyrants of this > world. > > If someone who knows the way around this tyranny can explain how I get around > the prison they want me in, please help me. There must be someone out there > with the knowledge to help that hates this intrusion on their own freedom. It > takes a lot to make me angry, but I am willing to die for my freedom. That is > how serious I am about this crap. I am sorry but no other word that I will > use fits. > > Steven > > Steven, First, chill, cool down, relax. (If still angry, walk away, take a break, have a Kit Kat) | | | | | READY? One, for an old guy,(by my standard anyway, and I am not young), you are a hot tempered, irrational, paranoid, ungrateful, stupid and screwed-up. You are acting like some puerile, infantile kid who can't have his desserts. Start acting your age. Your age does not give you a licence to rant, shout and trash about. In fact, you should be more mellow, considered and sharper, except with bad memory. Behavior like this should not be allowed after the age of 14 years. Two, all of us here are trying very hard to help you. You had asked some things to do and we tell you. You are obviously not up to where they are in their proficiencies, (and of course, many of us feel that way when others are talking about things we know little about, each of us have some things others know little about too, that's the whole point of this list). You are no lesser and no greater. Three, if you think you cannot handle what these guys are telling you, don't. Simple as that. We are trying to help you and you should appreciate that, whether or not you can. Even if we give you bad advice, are we giving them with bad intentions? Four, I am writing to you this way because I respect you and everyone. I certainly do not want myself to be treated condescendingly just because I am old. I hope you do not think yourself senile. Five, as to your permissions problem, I would not want to advise you now as I am not sure how you got yourself into this mess. I have said many times that it is easier for you to follow the standard way to install first. Six, you owe all of us an apology, even those of us who gave you bad instructions, or none, because they dare not or could not. No regards, Goh Lip From claydoh at midmaine.com Tue May 19 06:30:04 2009 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 02:30:04 -0400 Subject: New installation Jaunty constant permissions problems In-Reply-To: <200905182325.14264.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905182325.14264.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905190230.04587.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Monday 18 May 2009 11:25:14 pm steven vollom wrote: > File:///home/steven/.kde/share/config/arkrc. I open arkrc using sudo > dolphin and change the permissions so that I can use the program. The > permissions are not greyed out, and I am able to change them to give me > permission, but when I click OK, no permissions are transferred to me. I > can't tell you how angry this makes me. If we are supporting freedom, why > do the owners of their own computers have to fight with programmers to get > permission to use what is their own. Every time I turn around I am stopped > from doing something I need to do by my own computer. I love Kubuntu, but > I will trash my computer before I give over my freedom. > > To the people who make these decisions for me. I hate it. I just don't > dislike it, I hate it. As much as I have loved the Kubuntu experience, I > hate the prison you are trying to put me in. I will quit Kubuntu before I > give in. I am one of your staunchest supporters, yet I am growing to HATE > you for this robbery of my freedom. You have never been there to help me > when I needed you, when the burglar with a gun is trying to rob me. Stay > the hell out of my computer's freedom. I had a mother and father, I don't > want a replacement. I have never worked for someone else, and I don't want > a boss. I have defended myself from all attackers for my entire life. It > is always some gutless guy in the background who tries to take power over > you, someond who would cut and run if any real danger came his way. The > best creation you have made to date is a pile of crap, if I have to use it > the way you want me to use it. > > Create a code that when entered takes your ability to control, guide, > inhibit the use of my computer and you will keep me. As good a salesman as > I can be for you, I will passionately be against you, if you don't stop > this nonsence. > > I thought Linux people loved freedom. What a line of bul.sh.t. You are > just Nazis in sheep clothing when you steal the freedom of the people who > support you. What does a person have to do to get away from the tyrants of > this world. > > If someone who knows the way around this tyranny can explain how I get > around the prison they want me in, please help me. There must be someone > out there with the knowledge to help that hates this intrusion on their own > freedom. It takes a lot to make me angry, but I am willing to die for my > freedom. That is how serious I am about this crap. I am sorry but no > other word that I will use fits. > > Steven One word here: ext4. There are known issues with this filesystem that I believe have not been fixed yet. Data loss on config files might be the culprit here, I had seen this permissions problem as well as freezes and hangs due to this, back in the betas. Stick with the defaults when installing, and please don't think the world is against you when you do something perhaps without some simple investigations Searching for 'ubuntu ext4' and 'kubuntu ext4' turn up not only other people's questions, but also the data loss issue, for example. Now, with the rest of your comments, I have one more word for you: plonk -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From wayward4now at gmail.com Tue May 19 06:35:19 2009 From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 02:35:19 -0400 Subject: New installation Jaunty constant permissions problems In-Reply-To: <200905182325.14264.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905182325.14264.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1242714919.25416.67.camel@iam.wayward4now.net> On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 23:25 -0400, steven vollom wrote: > File:///home/steven/.kde/share/config/arkrc. I open arkrc using sudo dolphin > and change the permissions so that I can use the program. The permissions are > not greyed out, and I am able to change them to give me permission, but when I > click OK, no permissions are transferred to me. I can't tell you how angry > this makes me. Didja try this first? http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/05/howto-install-lightscribe-in-ubuntu.html -otherwise- Just open a terminal, su root and use command line to solve the problem. Just another learning curve is all, IF you're dead **sure** it's a permissions problem. ls -la the file you are having problems with. It'll list who owns it and the permissions given it. The command "chown" changes the ownership. If it reads root:root as the owner and the user steven can't get to it, then you merely type: chown steven filename and it's yours only. Do not do this at /usr or /bin system directories. Bad things can happen. VERY bad things. Consider it a red button. type 'man chown' for all of the gruesome techno-babble written for and by the technocrati. If someone ever created a set of man pages for the technically illiterate in step-by-step fashion, I'd kiss their backside at high noon in front of the Post Office. :) Now we're down to permissions. This really gets gruesome, but you can learn it. It's far handier than some GUI to get down to business fixing a permission problem in a New York Minute. type 'man chmod". I know, I can smell the rotten fruit being tossed my way, but this guy needs to know this stuff, as much as he dinks with his system. Here's a video file: ls -la Lexx01x03EatingPatternPart110.flv -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24654074 2009-03-12 04:15 Lexx01x03EatingPatternPart110.flv You can have eXecute, Read, Write privileges. See the first dash? That could have been set to x but a movie file is not an executable. It's a file that is just normally Read and the W following it means that the user Root can edit and write to it. So, the first three permissions are set for the owner. The second three are for the group who can only Read it. The last three are for the world (everyone else), and they can only Read it, noted by the single 'r'. But, the permissions for the three possible owners, groups and world could ALL be set to eXecute, Read and Write for everyone with just a single command line statement, as root, chmod 777 Lexx01x03EatingPatternPart110.flv NOTE: you wouldn't want to do this without good reason, but there it is as an example. It is THAT easy to do. You CAN do whatever you want, knowing how and when not to is a big issue. So, read the man page and google around to get all of the states of the chmod command-line. Just a bit of self education, and you'll find that somethings are just too cumbersome using a gui. OTOH, the gui is much -safer- until it won't do what you want it to do. I'm leaving learning the numbers to use to set the three states to you, just so you don't rush in and blow sh*t up. This IS powerful stuff so take your time and get understanding and seek the light. I would not do one blessed thing to any file that you didn't directly create yourself. Leave the system stuff completely alone. The only Nazi's to me are the ones that won't let you log in as root, in order to get your stuff done. But, I'm old school. It's been awhile since I last blew up my machine as root and have a pretty fair idea of what not to dink with. I don't need for my computer to be my nanny. But, there are those that do. So, "I accept the things that I cannot change..." and hammer away at everything else. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 https://nuoar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987 From kassube at gmx.net Tue May 19 06:59:10 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 08:59:10 +0200 Subject: New installation Jaunty constant permissions problems In-Reply-To: <200905182325.14264.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905182325.14264.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905190859.11195.kassube@gmx.net> steven vollom wrote: > File:///home/steven/.kde/share/config/arkrc. I open arkrc using sudo > dolphin and change the permissions so that I can use the program. Never use "sudo dolphin", use "kdesudo dolphin" instead. This is a graphical application and it isn't meant to be started with sudo. With sudo you will have the same permissions problems again and again because these graphical applications will change the permissions of your config files instead of the config files of root. I suppose you have run dolphin with sudo before and that program called ark as root which changed the permissions of arkrc. Using kdesudo prevents these permissions problems. > If we > are supporting freedom, why do the owners of their own computers have > to fight with programmers to get permission to use what is their own. > Every time I turn around I am stopped from doing something I need to > do by my own computer. I love Kubuntu, but I will trash my computer > before I give over my freedom. Kubuntu is a multi user / multi tasking operating system and for that reason there are access restrictions for individual users. There are no programmers fighting you but it is your lack of understanding the way these permissions work. It is your freedom to run Kubuntu, but if you do, you have to live with these restrictions. If you want a system without the restrictions, you are free to choose such a system, e.g. FreeDOS. However if you want to stay with Kubuntu (which I suppose is your intention), you should learn how to avoid your permissions problems. Like I wrote above, don't use sudo for graphical applications but use kdesudo instead. If you want to change all your config files and all the other stuff in your home directory to be owned by you again, you can run the command sudo chown -R $USER: $HOME in a terminal. And write it down, you will most likely need the command again. Nils From jonorland at gmail.com Tue May 19 07:16:08 2009 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 09:16:08 +0200 Subject: getting Fn and multimedia keys working in kde4 In-Reply-To: <4A11EA75.5040209@gmail.com> References: <4A11EA75.5040209@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Paul S wrote: > My Fn-F10 (eject) won't work on kde4.  On kde3, I could use input > actions to configure the Fn-F10 to issue the eject command.  When I try > it on kde4, I get a popup saying that Qt does not support that key. > Same with Fn-F2 (battery).  Same with some of the multimedia keys on my > usb multimedia keyboard (sleep, stop, reload, Tools, Explorer). > > I upgraded to 4.3beta with same results. > > Any ideas how to get these working? No but your not alone. Some keys that worked before don't work anymore. For me it looks like QT/KDE has added some extra layer and blocking some keys that X or the kernel driver know about. For me it I think it started with the upgrade to KDE 4.2.x. / Jonas From dave at thefletchers.net Tue May 19 08:17:53 2009 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 09:17:53 +0100 Subject: Lightscribe 64bit Jaunty KDE 4.2.3 In-Reply-To: <200905182020.42934.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905182020.42934.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200905190917.53911.dave@thefletchers.net> On Tuesday 19 May 2009 01:20:42 steven vollom wrote: > I found data relating to installation of Lightscribe, howeve, the links did > not work. Sudo apt-get install Lightscribe did not work, nor did > kpackagekit or synaptic. My writer has the capability; it would be nice to > be able to use it. None of the google entries help. > > Steven No, I wouldn't expect those to work. I've never used lightscribe, but I did see once upon a time that it was only available as an rpm file. But the world has now moved on and it is now available in .deb format:- http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/linux/index.aspx Looks like you need to do it in two steps - first install the so-called system software, then the labelling application. Let us know if it works - I've also got a lightscribe burner but no suitable media. Dave From tuxebi at gmx.de Tue May 19 08:35:12 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:35:12 +0200 Subject: New installation Jaunty constant permissions problems In-Reply-To: <200905190859.11195.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200905182325.14264.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905190859.11195.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils Kassube wrote: > > However if you want to stay with Kubuntu (which I suppose is your > intention), you should learn how to avoid your permissions problems. > Like I wrote above, don't use sudo for graphical applications but use > kdesudo instead. As kdesudo is just a frontend for sudo, I doubt this will work. Instead, DO NOT USE SUDO when doing regular work with your system. Just use sudo or kdesudo or one of the other frontenends when doing the occasional admin work. > > If you want to change all your config files and all the other stuff in > your home directory to be owned by you again, you can run the command > > sudo chown -R $USER: $HOME > > in a terminal. And write it down, you will most likely need the command > again. Use this command once to reset all your permissions to what you had before screwing things with "sudo ". And when you refrain from using sudo for your day to day work, you will not need to use it, again. Instead of using "sudo dolphin" (just for example) it will be way better to ask yourself or the list, why "steven" cannot do, what Steven wants to do. My wild guess is that your file copy activity was done by using sudo which caused the files' owner to be changed to root. Nils' command will revert this for your home directory. And please do not hold ubuntu responsible for the things that you srew up yourself by using "admin mode", where you absolutely should not. Kind regards Eberhard > > > Nils > > From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Tue May 19 09:25:57 2009 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:25:57 +0300 Subject: Jaunty Plasma 'Notification' bug? Message-ID: <4A127B25.60402@prayingforisrael.net> Yesterday I used Dolphin to transfer some pdf files to my website using the ftp protocol. As they were being uploaded a blue 'information' icon appeared in the 'System Tray' part of the panel (taskbar) and a box displaying the transfer process appeared below it. Wonderful - but when the transfer ended neither the notification icon nor the info box go away. If I click on the notification icon the box disappears only to reappear again. How do I get rid of them both? Blessings, Nigel From tuxebi at gmx.de Tue May 19 09:29:31 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:29:31 +0200 Subject: Jaunty Plasma 'Notification' bug? In-Reply-To: <4A127B25.60402@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4A127B25.60402@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: Nigel Ridley wrote: > Yesterday I used Dolphin to transfer some pdf files to my website using the ftp protocol. As they > were being uploaded a blue 'information' icon appeared in the 'System Tray' part of the panel > (taskbar) and a box displaying the transfer process appeared below it. Wonderful - but when the > transfer ended neither the notification icon nor the info box go away. If I click on the > notification icon the box disappears only to reappear again. > How do I get rid of them both? > convert to Windows? ;-)) Kind regards Eberhard From barnaby at drofle.com Tue May 19 10:29:35 2009 From: barnaby at drofle.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:29:35 +0100 Subject: Devolo Message-ID: <4A128A0F.7000507@drofle.com> I have my desktop computer upstairs. My wife uses her laptop downstairs via my wireless router (DSL G604T). She often complains about losing the signal or it all being very slow. I have seen a little about devolo and I wondered if anyone on the list has it in use. It looks as if it could be useful. One possible problem, our downstairs power plugs and the upstairs ones are on separate circuits. At least, they have separate switches on the mains box. Would that cause any difficulty? TIA Neil From tuxebi at gmx.de Tue May 19 10:43:20 2009 From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:43:20 +0200 Subject: Devolo In-Reply-To: <4A128A0F.7000507@drofle.com> References: <4A128A0F.7000507@drofle.com> Message-ID: Neil Winchurst wrote: > I have my desktop computer upstairs. My wife uses her laptop downstairs > via my wireless router (DSL G604T). She often complains about losing the > signal or it all being very slow. > > I have seen a little about devolo and I wondered if anyone on the list > has it in use. It looks as if it could be useful. One possible problem, > our downstairs power plugs and the upstairs ones are on separate > circuits. At least, they have separate switches on the mains box. Would > that cause any difficulty? > > TIA > > Neil > Yes, I use them all the time, mostly for customers that want to stop wireless, either for performance or for radiation reasons. At the same time they do not want to invest into Ethernet cabling. Works wonderfully. Separate Switches on the mains box are, normally not a problem. Generally the mains box over here most often is what the devolos need to have in common. Should they not be able to make the contact (I had this only once within a large school building installation with about 70 devolos), you can always have "phase-couplers" installed. With those, the devolos can connect to each other, although they reside somewhere on 3 different phases. Over here in Germany this clearly is a job for a qualified electrician, although it is not very difficult to do. Nowadays I would solely install the 200Mbit devices. They perform roughly like fast-Ethernet, when only two devolos are in use. Remember, dLan, just as wireless, is a shared network where the available bandwidth is evenly shared between all the connecting clients. Have some fun with your network. IMHO it cannot be much easier. Eberhard From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue May 19 11:00:25 2009 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 06:00:25 -0500 Subject: New installation Jaunty constant permissions problems In-Reply-To: <200905182325.14264.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> References: <200905182325.14264.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A129149.4010000@swbell.net> On 05/18/2009 steven vollom wrote: > File:///home/steven/.kde/share/config/arkrc. I open arkrc using sudo > dolphin > and change the permissions so that I can use the program. The > permissions are > not greyed out, and I am able to change them to give me permission, > but when I > click OK, no permissions are transferred to me. I can't tell you how > angry > this makes me. If we are supporting freedom, why do the owners of > their own > computers have to fight with programmers to get permission to use > what is their > own. Every time I turn around I am stopped from doing something I > need to do > by my own computer. I love Kubuntu, but I will trash my computer > before I > give over my freedom. I am far from being any sort of guru when it comes to Linux of any flavor. I know my own limitations and live within them. That doesn't mean I'm not willing/trying to learn more just that I don't push my own envelope to far at a time. I have three hard drives in my computer and I keep one stable version running and one new version [ the third one is Win XP which hardly ever sees the light of day ]. In this way if something gets trashed in the new version I still can fall back on my stable version till I get things worked out. The current stable version is also sort of a backup of stuff [ read: junk ] that I want to keep [ for some unknown reason ]. File transfers are simple and easy using dolphin. One of the ways I limit my problems is to not dink around with the system except in _RARE_ cases. Installation is _VERY_ vanilla. Pop in the CD/DVD , start the install and go have a cup of coffee. 99.999999999999................................% percent of the time the install program is way smarter than I am and the defaults just plain _work_. It's not fancy, it's not whizzbang, AND it's definitely _NOT_ up to the standards of the pro's but it _is_ simple, clean, and workable. I make every attempt possible to avoid problems. As a result I seldom have difficulties. All that to say this. Steven please don't get mad at me, but over the past several months from what I've read you have created most of your own biggest problems. And PLEASE everyone else don't get mad at me, but many times I see Steven given some VERY good advice that is _WAY_ above his technical level. This advice then leads to more trouble later because Steven uses that tidbit in a way that causes him more problems. Linux systems are very stable and (K)Ubuntu is IMHO very much ready for the casual home user, _BUT_ the help expertise level needs to be lowered a couple notch's for these type users. Knowledge is wonderful, but to little knowledge can be VERY dangerous when messing with parts of the system you don't have a complete understanding of. Some people hate that (K)Ubuntu doesn't have a standard Root Mode. I say it's a blessing. Yes, it's baby sitting of a type. It protects the owner/user from himself. Can you imagine what would happen if someone like Steven, or myself, were to have a system running in Root all the time. _VERY_ soon that person would be back to Windows and bad mouthing that lousy no good piece of trash [ S___ ] called Linux to everyone within earshot. A studious application of the K.I.S.S. Principal is called for when giving advice to newbies and people like Steven and myself. Help prevent ID-ten-T Errors!! Use the K.I.S.S. Principle! -- Treat all stressful situations like a dog does. If you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away From kassube at gmx.net Tue May 19 11:12:39 2009 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:12:39 +0200 Subject: New installation Jaunty constant permissions problems In-Reply-To: References: <200905182325.14264.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905190859.11195.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200905191312.39890.kassube@gmx.net> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > > However if you want to stay with Kubuntu (which I suppose is your > > intention), you should learn how to avoid your permissions > > problems. Like I wrote above, don't use sudo for graphical > > applications but use kdesudo instead. > > As kdesudo is just a frontend for sudo, I doubt this will work. There is indeed a difference and probably I should have explained it in my previous mail. If you use sudo you will have your $HOME set from your user account while kdesudo sets it for the root account. You can check it yourself: Use the command "sudo konsole" and in the newly started konsole window try "echo $HOME". Compare this with "kdesudo konsole" and "echo $HOME". > Just use sudo or kdesudo or one of the other frontenends when doing > the occasional admin work. Again, don't use sudo for graphical applications but kdesudo instead. It may work with sudo or maybe not, depending on the particular application. Nils From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue May 19 11:31:26 2009 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 06:31:26 -0500 Subject: Devolo In-Reply-To: References: <4A128A0F.7000507@drofle.com> Message-ID: <4A12988E.70709@swbell.net> Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: > >> I have my desktop computer upstairs. My wife uses her laptop downstairs >> via my wireless router (DSL G604T). She often complains about losing the >> signal or it all being very slow. >> >> I have seen a little about devolo and I wondered if anyone on the list >> has it in use. It looks as if it could be useful. One possible problem, >> our downstairs power plugs and the upstairs ones are on separate >> circuits. At least, they have separate switches on the mains box. Would >> that cause any difficulty? >> >> TIA >> >> Neil >> >> > Yes, I use them all the time, mostly for customers that want to stop > wireless, either for performance or for radiation reasons. At the same > time they do not want to invest into Ethernet cabling. > > Works wonderfully. Separate Switches on the mains box are, normally not > a problem. > Generally the mains box over here most often is what the devolos need to > have in common. > > Should they not be able to make the contact (I had this only once within > a large school building installation with about 70 devolos), you can > always have "phase-couplers" installed. With those, the devolos can > connect to each other, although they reside somewhere on 3 different > phases. Over here in Germany this clearly is a job for a qualified > electrician, although it is not very difficult to do. > > Nowadays I would solely install the 200Mbit devices. They perform > roughly like fast-Ethernet, when only two devolos are in use. Remember, > dLan, just as wireless, is a shared network where the available > bandwidth is evenly shared between all the connecting clients. > > Have some fun with your network. IMHO it cannot be much easier. > > Eberhard > > > OH YES, by all means get one [ laughing maniacally ]. Why not just string network cable all over town and hook it to your router. And you think Windows standard security is a joke. All it takes is for one geeky hacker type to figure out that these things are in use and it opens up a whole new world of possibilities. Think about it this way. With this device all the wiring in your house on that side of the electrical supply is now carrying your network information. Number one, that wiring is now an antenna broadcasting that signal. Number two, everyone in town that is on that leg is also now connected to your system. Number three, all the wiring in town is now an antenna that picks up all sorts of radio signals that feed back into your system. Park a ham radio operator, or any radio broadcast type that uses relatively high power transmissions regularly, down the street and you will have all sorts of fun. Imagine what I could do to your system with a thousand watt signal from a few feet away. Might as well hook your system directly to my transmitter. OH YES, _PLEASE run right out and buy one TODAY. Make your neighborhood hacker happy. -- Treat all stressful situations like a dog does. If you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away From g.lip at gmx.com Tue May 19 11:36:38 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:36:38 +0800 Subject: Find In-Reply-To: <8abf83c20905140515h7508c24fpee88b8cb666de18b@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <200905122104.12451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0A4CC9.2080306@gmx.com> <200905131933.33853.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <4A0BB3AE.2010107@gmx.com> <8abf83c20905140515h7508c24fpee88b8cb666de18b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sascha Güthling wrote: > You confuse Suspend to RAM with Suspend to Disk. I guess you see the > difference already. Suspend to Ram shuts down the system but keeps the > RAM powered so you don't loose it. Suspend to Disk saves the content > of the RAM to the HDD (here to the swap area) and shuts the computer > down completely. That's why you need that much swap to be able to do > that. When waking up the content is read back into RAM and the system > looks like when you left it. > snip > Cheers > Sascha > Hi Sascha, Looks like the Suspend to RAM and Suspend to Disk is incorporated into the KDE4.3 Beta(KDE 4.2.85). Good thing I had enough disk space for Swap. Regards, Goh Lip A moment of anger can cause a lifetime of misery. - - - Chinese saying From myriam at kubuntu.org Tue May 19 11:57:00 2009 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:57:00 +0200 Subject: permission In-Reply-To: References: <200905181444.35875.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hi Steven and Eberhard, On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 20:57, Eberhard Roloff wrote: > steven vollom wrote: >> I just installed Digikam in Jaunty kde 4.2.3.  It said I did not have >> permission.  I typed sudo digikam into a terminal and got the following: >> steven at Yeshua:~$ sudo digikam >> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. >> Error: "/tmp/kde-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. >> digikam(5182) Digikam::DigikamFirstRun::DigikamFirstRun: >> "/home/steven/Pictures" >> steven at Yeshua:~$ >> >> What do I do and how do I do it to get appropriate permission and permissions >> fixed?  Thanks.  A neighbor was burglarized this morning and I took pictures >> for him.  Thanks! Just a reminder: if you want to start graphical applications as root, please use kdesudo instead of just sudo Regards, Myriam. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From tkg at lanl.gov Tue May 19 12:07:14 2009 From: tkg at lanl.gov (Thomas K Gamble) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 06:07:14 -0600 Subject: CPU temp In-Reply-To: <200905160952.52708.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> References: <200905150831.48709.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <200905160952.52708.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <200905190607.14686.tkg@lanl.gov> On Saturday 16 May 2009 10:52:43 am Pastor JW wrote: > On Saturday 16 May 2009 2:41:19 am marc wrote: > > Cary Bielenberg said: > > > marc wrote: > > >> Pastor JW said: > > >>> I've had something strange happening the past couple of days. My CPU > > >>> temp normally runs at 46-49 C but a couple days ago the fan went on > > >>> full and the temp went to 84 C which I think is not good, and did not > > >>> come back down. Running top shows python taking 100% of CPU. Looking > > >>> at the logs does not seem to say any error, or at least I can't spot > > >>> any. I don't know what called python or what was running any > > >>> differently than usual. Running 8.04 KDE 3.5.10 T5450 Intel Core 2 > > >>> Duo, 4 Gig memory. Anyone have any idea about what is causing this? > > >> > > >> No, but I experience the same thing with kwin. No idea what it is. > > > > > > I have the same problem I have rectified by selecting aggressive power > > > saving mode. My xorg & plasma are consuming almost 100% cpu. > > > > Just an FYI for anyone reading this: > > > > For light use, especially on a laptop even on mains power, I usually > > switch to the 'Powersave' power governor. It's easy to switch governors > > now via: > > > > +f2 > > power govenor > > > > then select from the list. > > > > If you want to explore this area a little, try installing the > > cpufrequtils package (it's tiny) and do: > > > > $ cpufreq-info > > > > There's an interesting read about Linux power management here: > > > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/power-management-guide.xml > > It has always been easy in Kubuntu to change the CPU frequency by just > right clicking the battery icon and setting the CPU policy but that is not > the problem at all. The problem is a program all of a sudden taking 100 % > of the CPU and not letting go. Dropping to "powersave" did not stop the > problem although it did get the temperature of the CPU down to 79C. To > stop it required a reboot, then the temp came back down to the normal after > a minute or so. However, for no apparent reason, about two hours later it > all happened again. Again, according to top, it is python taking 100 % of > CPU. and again the only way to stop it is to reboot. The logs do not tell > me what is going on. Or at least I find no mention of python. This is not > normal for this machine and only started a few days ago. Like I said, it's > normal CPU temp is about 46-49 and has been for several months. You might be able to tell what python script it is by doing "ps -elf" in a konsole window. You may have to stretch your konsole window to read the whole line since it truncates rather than wraps. Then just "kill -9 ". -- Thomas K. Gamble System/Network Administrator, Cyber Systems Security Officer Chemical Diagnostics and Engineering (C-CDE) Los Alamos National Laboratory MS-J565,p:505-665-4323 f:505-665-4267 There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full. Henry Kissinger From arnaud.bourree at gmail.com Tue May 19 12:11:01 2009 From: arnaud.bourree at gmail.com (Arnaud bourree) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:11:01 +0200 Subject: Jaunty Plasma 'Notification' bug? In-Reply-To: <4A127B25.60402@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4A127B25.60402@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: 2009/5/19 Nigel Ridley : > Yesterday I used Dolphin to transfer some pdf files to my website using the ftp protocol. As they > were being uploaded a blue 'information' icon appeared in the 'System Tray' part of the panel > (taskbar) and a box displaying the transfer process appeared below it. Wonderful - but when the > transfer ended neither the notification icon nor the info box go away. If I click on the > notification icon the box disappears only to reappear again. > How do I get rid of them both? > > Blessings, > > Nigel > I notice that Plasma Notification removed finished information after a timeout automatically excepted if you request to display box. Sometime It display again the box before removing with 'finish' added to the title, sometime not Arnaud. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue May 19 12:16:17 2009 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:16:17 +0200 Subject: CPU temp In-Reply-To: <200905190607.14686.tkg@lanl.gov> References: <200905150831.48709.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <200905160952.52708.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <200905190607.14686.tkg@lanl.gov> Message-ID: <4A12A311.5010009@gmail.com> Thomas K Gamble wrote: > On Saturday 16 May 2009 10:52:43 am Pastor JW wrote: >> On Saturday 16 May 2009 2:41:19 am marc wrote: >>> Cary Bielenberg said: >>>> marc wrote: >>>>> Pastor JW said: >>>>>> I've had something strange happening the past couple of days. My CPU >>>>>> temp normally runs at 46-49 C but a couple days ago the fan went on >>>>>> full and the temp went to 84 C which I think is not good, and did not >>>>>> come back down. Running top shows python taking 100% of CPU. Looking >>>>>> at the logs does not seem to say any error, or at least I can't spot >>>>>> any. I don't know what called python or what was running any >>>>>> differently than usual. Running 8.04 KDE 3.5.10 T5450 Intel Core 2 >>>>>> Duo, 4 Gig memory. Anyone have any idea about what is causing this? >>>>> No, but I experience the same thing with kwin. No idea what it is. >>>> I have the same problem I have rectified by selecting aggressive power >>>> saving mode. My xorg & plasma are consuming almost 100% cpu. >>> Just an FYI for anyone reading this: >>> >>> For light use, especially on a laptop even on mains power, I usually >>> switch to the 'Powersave' power governor. It's easy to switch governors >>> now via: >>> >>> +f2 >>> power govenor >>> >>> then select from the list. >>> >>> If you want to explore this area a little, try installing the >>> cpufrequtils package (it's tiny) and do: >>> >>> $ cpufreq-info >>> >>> There's an interesting read about Linux power management here: >>> >>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/power-management-guide.xml >> It has always been easy in Kubuntu to change the CPU frequency by just >> right clicking the battery icon and setting the CPU policy but that is not >> the problem at all. The problem is a program all of a sudden taking 100 % >> of the CPU and not letting go. Dropping to "powersave" did not stop the >> problem although it did get the temperature of the CPU down to 79C. To >> stop it required a reboot, then the temp came back down to the normal after >> a minute or so. However, for no apparent reason, about two hours later it >> all happened again. Again, according to top, it is python taking 100 % of >> CPU. and again the only way to stop it is to reboot. The logs do not tell >> me what is going on. Or at least I find no mention of python. This is not >> normal for this machine and only started a few days ago. Like I said, it's >> normal CPU temp is about 46-49 and has been for several months. > > You might be able to tell what python script it is by doing "ps -elf" in a > konsole window. You may have to stretch your konsole window to read the > whole line since it truncates rather than wraps. Then just "kill -9 ". > I have had this (at least similar) problem when running KGet for downloading something, strangely enough often when the app is supposed to do nothing (no download in other words). If you have KGet running kill it and see if the temp drops From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue May 19 12:23:56 2009 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 15:23:56 +0300 Subject: Cannot send file from bluetooth phone to Jaunty Message-ID: <880dece00905190523y409345eaj7de030715b296f64@mail.gmail.com> I have a Nokia 6288 with bluetooth. I can successfully send files from my Jaunty laptop (KDE 4.2.3) to the phone, however, I when attempting to send files from the phone to the laptop I encounter a connection error on the phone. The phone and laptop have been paired, the laptop is set to discoverable, and the obex server is active. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il From derek at pointerstop.ca Thu May 14 19:20:17 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:20:17 -0300 Subject: Find References: <200905081302.18008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> <8abf83c20905140515h7508c24fpee88b8cb666de18b@mail.gmail.com> <200905141957.37648.kassube@gmx.net> <20090514191950.1d0149dd.Yorvik.Ubunto@GoogleMail.com> Message-ID: Steve wrote: > That’s what I suspected. So what does 'save session for future logins' > do, is it the same as suspend to disk? No, that says to remember the state of your applications when they're closed, and open them up to the same place when you log in again. It only works for "session manager aware" applications, which used to mean it didn't work for OO or Firefox. Firefox remembers its state now, but I don't know if it's doing it through the session manager or not. Goh says he doesn't see that - it's an option somewhere in the Login manager settings. I haven't looked at it for a while, but you could either choose to always save the session as you log out, save a session at a specific time which will always be used when you log in, or not save sessions at all. -- derek From derek at pointerstop.ca Thu May 14 19:40:02 2009 From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:40:02 -0300 Subject: KDE 4 simply broken References: Message-ID: marc wrote: > FYI, there's an interesting thread ongoing in debian.users.kde. > > Here's the guy's list of issues: > > http://dgwiki.dingogully.com.au/Jedd/Excogitations/IT/KDE_4 > I'd say that the subject line is misleading - if KDE4 was "simply" broken, it would have been fixed already :-) Unfortunately most of the breakage is complex. That said, I agree with most of his points, except: #1 - Akonadi doesn't appear at all broken to me; #12 - Konqueror does work as it should with a middle click; #14 - which it it took me some time to find. That is NOT the default, even though I've always used tree view myself (and since he has no explanation, work-around _or_ fix for this one, I suspect it isn't really valid, anyway); #17 - not only does it work, I had never tried it before, so I've learned something new. #22 - works (and iirc it was NOT a default under kde3 - I had to mess with the config to get that to work) And then of course there are all the things he says are broken that I would never use anyway... -- derek From jonorland at gmail.com Tue May 19 12:36:19 2009 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:36:19 +0200 Subject: Devolo In-Reply-To: <4A12988E.70709@swbell.net> References: <4A128A0F.7000507@drofle.com> <4A12988E.70709@swbell.net> Message-ID: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Billie Erin Walsh wrote: > Eberhard Roloff wrote: >> Neil Winchurst wrote: >> >>> I have my desktop computer upstairs. My wife uses her laptop downstairs >>> via my wireless router (DSL G604T). She often complains about losing the >>> signal or it all being very slow. >>> >>> I have seen a little about devolo and I wondered if anyone on the list >>> has it in use. It looks as if it could be useful. One possible problem, >>> our downstairs power plugs and the upstairs ones are on separate >>> circuits. At least, they have separate switches on the mains box. Would >>> that cause any difficulty? >>> >>> TIA >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> >> Yes, I use them all the time, mostly for customers that want to stop >> wireless, either for performance or for radiation reasons. At the same >> time they do not want to invest into Ethernet cabling. >> >> Works wonderfully. Separate Switches on the mains box are, normally not >> a problem. >> Generally the mains box over here most often is what the devolos need to >> have in common. >> >> Should they not be able to make the contact (I had this only once within >> a large school building installation with about 70 devolos), you can >> always have "phase-couplers" installed. With those, the devolos can >> connect to each other, although they reside somewhere on 3 different >> phases. Over here in Germany this clearly is a job for a qualified >> electrician, although it is not very difficult to do. >> >> Nowadays I would solely install the 200Mbit devices. They perform >> roughly like fast-Ethernet, when only two devolos are in use. Remember, >> dLan, just as wireless, is a shared network where the available >> bandwidth is evenly shared between all the connecting clients. >> >> Have some fun with your network. IMHO it cannot be much easier. >> >> Eberhard >> >> >> > > OH YES, by all means get one [ laughing maniacally ]. Why not just > string network cable all over town and hook it to your router. And you > think Windows standard security is a joke. All it takes is for one geeky > hacker type to figure out that these things are in use and it opens up a > whole new world of possibilities. > > Think about it this way. With this device all the wiring in your house > on that side of the electrical supply is now carrying your network > information. Number one, that wiring is now an antenna broadcasting that > signal. Number two, everyone in town that is on that leg is also now > connected to your system. Number three, all the wiring in town is now an > antenna that picks up all sorts of radio signals that feed back into > your system. Park a ham radio operator, or any radio broadcast type that > uses relatively high power transmissions regularly, down the street and > you will have all sorts of fun. Imagine what I could do to your system > with a thousand watt signal from a few feet away. Might as well hook > your system directly to my transmitter. > > OH YES, _PLEASE run right out and buy one TODAY. Make your neighborhood > hacker happy. I don't think this things is any worth then a wireless network contrary probably better as i would take more efforts to be able to hook up on the net. I mean the data is encrypted and you have your firewall and router at least on the "homeplug" i have looking at or am I missing something? / Jonas From g.lip at gmx.com Tue May 19 12:37:40 2009 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:37:40 +0800 Subject: KDE4.3 beta issues Message-ID: Some issues with KDE4.3 beta. (so far discovered, last 1 hour) o installation is difficult; need to apt-get -f install several times. had to remove some apps, like Krcp to continue and reinstall later. Install libs first too. o After installation, mounting of partitions is not automatic. Had to mkdir /mnt/