From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Thu Jan  1 01:07:02 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:07:02 -0500
Subject: Network problems
Message-ID: <200812312007.02927.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

Greetings;

I installed mint 6 just to see what all the hoorah was about, and it works 
pretty good if I was to comnpare it to windows.  But compared to linux it 
sucks the big one for 2 or 3 reasons.  One of which I may be able to fix with 
alacarte, it only installed one virtual screen!  This ancient box also has an 
nvidia 'Vanta' video card, which I have to assume is a $2 dollar goodwill 
card with maybe 2 megs of ram.

But the bigger yet problem is the networking, which works flawlessly with 
dhcp, but that is not how my little home network is setup.  I have everything 
in the hosts file, and in ifcg-eth0 files, all for fixed addresses on this 
network.  I did find the network configurer ok, and the changes I made seem 
to stick, but they are not used at reboot time.  So where, in what file, do I 
configure the real eth0?

I also can't find anything to start/stop/restart a service such as 'network' 
other than directly executing '/etc/init.d/networking stop' which does, and a 
restart reports its skipping the eth0=eth0, but doesn't install my changes.  
Surely this hasn't degenerated to the level of windows where any change 
requires a reboot?
 
Since this thing is ubuntu based, I thought maybe there might be a 
knowledgable person here who could help.  I'm far more fam with the fedora 
way of doing things.


It also seems to be stuck in gnome, even after installing around 400 megs of 
kde stuffs, so thats bummer #4.

Please, and thank you.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Loan-department manager:  "There isn't any fine print.  At these
interest rates, we don't need it."



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan  1 03:08:20 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:08:20 -0500
Subject: How do I use the archive?
Message-ID: <200812312208.21348.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I would like to know how to access and use the archive.  I believe I could 
reduce the number of questions I post as well as learn better by fighting out 
the answers.  I currently have a problem with certain programs, like 
Ktorrent, that open 2 to 3 pages longer than the screen and do not have a 
scrollbar to move the data up.  Sometimes a page will open that is twice the 
width of my 22" monitor and not have an ability to drag the edge to re-size 
the window to fit the screen. I am currently using the alt key+ holdingdown 
the left mouse button to drag the contents until readable.  If I attempt to 
re size the window by clicking on the maximize tab, nothing happens.

Some distributions work fine, while others maintain this awkward behavior.  I   
tried:  dpkg -a --configure from the konsole; still nothing changed.  TIA

Steven



From wayward4now at gmail.com  Thu Jan  1 03:25:31 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:25:31 -0500
Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc [ UPDATE: kde related? ]
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0812300029330.5887@theInTrepidation.hsd1.nh.comcast.net.>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0812300029330.5887@theInTrepidation.hsd1.nh.comcast.net.>
Message-ID: <1230780332.17279.80.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 00:54 -0500, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> It would appear that on Dec 28, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook did say:
> 
> > But when I installed kubuntu 8.10 and discovered that the 
> > <ctrl>+<enter> & <shift>+<ctrl>+<enter> shortcuts still didn't work.
> > I compared the version strings from mc's initial <F1> help screen
> > between both intrepid, and sabayon 3.5... Only to discover that both
> > were in fact the same version { mc 4.6.2-pre1 } But the two shortcuts
> > work on sabayon and NOT on kubuntu??????
> 
> It just came to my attention that this may be a kde konsole related.
> Because if I use mc from one of the 6 virtual consoles ( tty[1-6] )
> the shortcuts work in intrepid. It's only when I'm running from a
> konsole under kde that these shortcuts fail...
> 
> But I still think it's a kubuntu issue (not KDE) because these shortcut's
> work in my other linux distributions. And while intrepid is my only KDE 4
> based linux, I'm getting the same pattern with kubuntu 8.4 where the
> shortcuts work in mc under the virtual consoles, But NOT in a Konsole
> under kde 3.5.9... 

I'll toss this in for your considerations. I kept having problems with
Evolution allowing me to click on a url embedded within an email and it
not being passed to Firefox. I beat my brains out using the setup for
KDE, and sure enough, I had selected Firefox as my default application.
Yes, this is using Kubunto 8.04 and KDE3x. But, what I found was that
gnome was mixed in there, either during the install process or by some
added application that drug gnome in with it. I found that gconf was
more in charge of some processes than was KDE. Beats me, I'm am far from
being a Guru of any sorts. 

So, I called up gconf-editor and found all sorts of goodies that it
would influence. I found html being directed to Konquerer. Funny that it
never opened when I clicked on URLs. My point is that something like
gconf may be at the heart of your problem. Once I edited it to Firefox,
everything works. I haven't installed Intrepid yet, so I have NO CLUE if
this applies. But, it may be something to examine.  Good luck and Happy
New Years! Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From wayward4now at gmail.com  Thu Jan  1 03:57:55 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:57:55 -0500
Subject: How do I use the archive?
In-Reply-To: <200812312208.21348.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200812312208.21348.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1230782276.17279.112.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Wed, 2008-12-31 at 22:08 -0500, Steven Vollom wrote:
> I would like to know how to access and use the archive.  I believe I could 
> reduce the number of questions I post as well as learn better by fighting out 
> the answers.  

I just google, using problem ( whatever appropriate) + kubuntu + kde

It sure saves on having to login to multiple kubunto forums, I get right
to what I'm looking for. Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From kassube at gmx.net  Thu Jan  1 08:51:32 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 09:51:32 +0100
Subject: How do I use the archive?
In-Reply-To: <200812312208.21348.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200812312208.21348.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901010951.32393.kassube@gmx.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I would like to know how to access and use the archive.  I believe I
> could reduce the number of questions I post as well as learn better by
> fighting out the answers.

I use Google and include the term "site:lists.ubuntu.com" (without the 
quotes).


Nils



From kassube at gmx.net  Thu Jan  1 09:20:58 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 10:20:58 +0100
Subject: Network problems
In-Reply-To: <200812312007.02927.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200812312007.02927.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901011020.58749.kassube@gmx.net>

Gene Heskett wrote:
> I installed mint 6 just to see what all the hoorah was about, and it
> works pretty good if I was to comnpare it to windows.  But compared to
> linux it sucks the big one for 2 or 3 reasons.

Compared to which Linux? :)

> But the bigger yet problem is the networking, which works flawlessly
> with dhcp, but that is not how my little home network is setup.  I have
> everything in the hosts file, and in ifcg-eth0 files, all for fixed
> addresses on this network.  I did find the network configurer ok, and
> the changes I made seem to stick, but they are not used at reboot time.
>  So where, in what file, do I configure the real eth0?

The configuration is in "/etc/network/interfaces", see "man interfaces" 
for details.

> I also can't find anything to start/stop/restart a service such as
> 'network' other than directly executing '/etc/init.d/networking stop'
> which does, and a restart reports its skipping the eth0=eth0, but
> doesn't install my changes. Surely this hasn't degenerated to the level
> of windows where any change requires a reboot?

I don't know what Fedora has additionally to the scripts in /etc/init.d 
but Suse has links /sbin/rcSCRIPTNAME -> /etc/init.d/SCRIPTNAME. If you 
want to have these you can make them with these commands:

cd /etc/init.d
for s in *; do
  test -x $s || continue
  sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/$s /sbin/rc$s
done

Many of the links are probably not usefull but with these links you could 
use "rcnetworking stop" instead of "/etc/init.d/networking stop".


Nils



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Thu Jan  1 09:46:36 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 04:46:36 -0500
Subject: Network problems
In-Reply-To: <200901011020.58749.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200812312007.02927.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901011020.58749.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901010446.36704.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Nils Kassube wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> I installed mint 6 just to see what all the hoorah was about, and it
>> works pretty good if I was to comnpare it to windows.  But compared to
>> linux it sucks the big one for 2 or 3 reasons.
>
>Compared to which Linux? :)

Fedora 8 on this box.

>> But the bigger yet problem is the networking, which works flawlessly
>> with dhcp, but that is not how my little home network is setup.  I have
>> everything in the hosts file, and in ifcg-eth0 files, all for fixed
>> addresses on this network.  I did find the network configurer ok, and
>> the changes I made seem to stick, but they are not used at reboot time.
>>  So where, in what file, do I configure the real eth0?
>
>The configuration is in "/etc/network/interfaces", see "man interfaces"
>for details.

I looked at that file, but too many vars were used as $name that it was 
obviously being driven by another script with much more specificity, so I 
didn't putz with it.

As root, I managed to get the network config gui to work, then found that 
little double monitor icon in that group on the task bar to the bottom right 
would apparently restart the network to effect the changes.  If that holds 
when I next boot it, that problem is cured.

>> I also can't find anything to start/stop/restart a service such as
>> 'network' other than directly executing '/etc/init.d/networking stop'
>> which does, and a restart reports its skipping the eth0=eth0, but
>> doesn't install my changes. Surely this hasn't degenerated to the level
>> of windows where any change requires a reboot?

See above, I found the icon.

>I don't know what Fedora has additionally to the scripts in /etc/init.d
>but Suse has links /sbin/rcSCRIPTNAME -> /etc/init.d/SCRIPTNAME. If you
>want to have these you can make them with these commands:
>
>cd /etc/init.d
>for s in *; do
>  test -x $s || continue
>  sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/$s /sbin/rc$s
>done

Fedora has a 'service name-of-file-in-init.d start|stop|restart|status' that 
is very handy.

>Many of the links are probably not usefull but with these links you could
>use "rcnetworking stop" instead of "/etc/init.d/networking stop".
>
>
>Nils

I'm thinking I'll have to scrounge up an agp video card with more memory in 
order to get any more virtual screens out of it, Xorg.0.log says it has only 
16 megs on this one.

I have one candidate, an ati 9200SE with 256 megs, if I can get that 8x agp 
card to work in that 2x agp slot, agp has its own set of compatibility issues 
that make me think it was a bad show from the gitgo.

Thanks Nils, and have a Happy New Year.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Nice guys finish last, but we get to sleep in.
		-- Evan Davis



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan  1 10:08:49 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 05:08:49 -0500
Subject: How do I use the archive?  **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <200901010951.32393.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200812312208.21348.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901010951.32393.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901010508.49570.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009 3:51:32 am Nils Kassube wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> > I would like to know how to access and use the archive.  I believe I
> > could reduce the number of questions I post as well as learn better by
> > fighting out the answers.
>
> I use Google and include the term "site:lists.ubuntu.com" (without the
> quotes).
>
>
> Nils

Thanks Nils.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan  1 10:37:28 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 05:37:28 -0500
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper left
	corner.
Message-ID: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I set configuration so that when I put the cursor in the upper left corner of 
the desktop, the menubar would drop down.  It doesn't drop down anymore.  
Fortunately the menu opens with a right click, but the Icons that I use to 
open packages does not drop down either, or the clock among other things.  I 
googled the problem but nothing related to my system about the problem.  I 
use Hardy and KDE3.5.10.  Thanks for any help!!

Steven



From karlok at fastmail.fm  Thu Jan  1 17:28:55 2009
From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 09:28:55 -0800
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper
	left	corner.
In-Reply-To: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <495CFD57.5090608@fastmail.fm>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I set configuration so that when I put the cursor in the upper left corner of 
> the desktop, the menubar would drop down.  It doesn't drop down anymore.  
>

I have had this happen a couple of times.  What I did was to change the 
setting to only hide when a panel-hiding button is clicked.  This made 
the panel reappear.  Then I set the panel hiding back to the way I want it.

Karl



From karlok at fastmail.fm  Thu Jan  1 18:29:19 2009
From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 10:29:19 -0800
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper
	left	corner.
In-Reply-To: <495CFD57.5090608@fastmail.fm>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<495CFD57.5090608@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <495D0B7F.7030704@fastmail.fm>

> Steven Vollom wrote:
> Thanks Karl.  I have looked for the place this option is located.  I thought 
> it was in System Settings, but I looked and did not see it.  I am probably 
> just overlooking it; can you point me in the right direction.  Sorry for 
> using so much time on this, but it sure slows down my ability to use my 
> computer.  Thanks for the trouble.
> 
> Steven

I can't find it in System Settings either.  I always use kcontrol to 
change settings.  In kcontrol it is in Desktop -> Panels -> Hiding tab.

Karl

p.s. A while back you were going to run memtest86+ to check your memory 
(actually your computer's memory).  Did you ever do that?  I'm just 
wondering if some of your problems might be due to bad memory.



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan  1 18:51:13 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 13:51:13 -0500
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper
	=?iso-8859-1?q?left=09corner=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <495D0B7F.7030704@fastmail.fm>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<495CFD57.5090608@fastmail.fm> <495D0B7F.7030704@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <200901011351.13363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>



> I can't find it in System Settings either.  I always use kcontrol to
> change settings.  In kcontrol it is in Desktop -> Panels -> Hiding tab.

Kcontrol didn't show up in the menu, however, when I checked using Konsole, it 
was installed.  I typed kcontrol in the terminal and it opened.  I then 
followed your instructions, but the menubar remained hidden.
> > 
> Karl
>
> p.s. A while back you were going to run memtest86+ to check your memory
> (actually your computer's memory).  Did you ever do that?  I'm just
> wondering if some of your problems might be due to bad memory.

I did that, however, I was interrupted by a telephone call that required the 
use of my computer and had to stop after a couple of hours of check.  In the 
time it was checked, 4 errors appeared on the readout.

I forgot about the process and haven't restarted.  I will do that again, but I 
have pressing need for my computer right now and must continue working while 
broken.  Thanks so much for the help.

Strangely, I couldn't find the option to have the cursor placed in the upper 
left corner of the screen either.  The window in Kcontrol appeared basically 
as I remembered when I set the configuration, however, then there was an 
option to have the hidden bar working when you put the cursor at a specified 
point.  Like, Top, Bottom, Upper Left corner of the screen, etc.  What 
happened with that choice option?

Thanks!
Steven





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan  1 18:59:31 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 13:59:31 -0500
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper
	=?iso-8859-1?q?left=09corner=2E__**RESOLV_ED**_?= Thanks!
In-Reply-To: <495CFD57.5090608@fastmail.fm>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<495CFD57.5090608@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <200901011359.31899.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009 12:28:55 pm Karl Klinger wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> > I set configuration so that when I put the cursor in the upper left
> > corner of the desktop, the menubar would drop down.  It doesn't drop down
> > anymore.
>
> I have had this happen a couple of times.  What I did was to change the
> setting to only hide when a panel-hiding button is clicked.  This made
> the panel reappear.  Then I set the panel hiding back to the way I want it.
>
> Karl

I tried your instruction again, it worked this time.  Thanks!

Steven



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Thu Jan  1 19:22:19 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:22:19 -0500
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper
	=?iso-8859-1?q?left=09corner=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <200901011351.13363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<495D0B7F.7030704@fastmail.fm>
	<200901011351.13363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901011422.19528.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>> I can't find it in System Settings either.  I always use kcontrol to
>> change settings.  In kcontrol it is in Desktop -> Panels -> Hiding tab.
>
>Kcontrol didn't show up in the menu, however, when I checked using Konsole,
> it was installed.  I typed kcontrol in the terminal and it opened.  I then
> followed your instructions, but the menubar remained hidden.
>
>> Karl
>>
>> p.s. A while back you were going to run memtest86+ to check your memory
>> (actually your computer's memory).  Did you ever do that?  I'm just
>> wondering if some of your problems might be due to bad memory.
>
>I did that, however, I was interrupted by a telephone call that required the
>use of my computer and had to stop after a couple of hours of check.  In the
>time it was checked, 4 errors appeared on the readout.
>
And with that, I can predict that your machine will never behave itself until 
that is fixed, probably with good memory.  Sometimes dumpster diving might 
find something usable?

>I forgot about the process and haven't restarted.  I will do that again, but
> I have pressing need for my computer right now and must continue working
> while broken.  Thanks so much for the help.
>
>Strangely, I couldn't find the option to have the cursor placed in the upper
>left corner of the screen either.  The window in Kcontrol appeared basically
>as I remembered when I set the configuration, however, then there was an
>option to have the hidden bar working when you put the cursor at a specified
>point.  Like, Top, Bottom, Upper Left corner of the screen, etc.  What
>happened with that choice option?
>
>Thanks!
>Steven



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Nothing in progression can rest on its original plan.  We may as well think of
rocking a grown man in the cradle of an infant.  -- Edmund Burke



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Thu Jan  1 19:53:00 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:53:00 -0500
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
Message-ID: <200901011453.00285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

Greetings;

I have the network problems worked out now, but I'm still stuck with gnome and 
only one virtual screen, now on a video card I know can support 16 or more.

So how does one switch from gnome to kde, assuming enough of kde is installed 
to make it work, say about 450 megs of it TBE.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
I'm proud to be paying taxes in the United States.  The only thing is
-- I could be just as proud for half the money.
		-- Arthur Godfrey



From jtwdyp at ttlc.net  Thu Jan  1 19:53:50 2009
From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 14:53:50 -0500
Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc 4.6.2-pre1 from kubuntu
 repo???
In-Reply-To: <200812300944.56824.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
	<200812300944.56824.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901011327250.10250@localhost.localdomain>


It would appear that on Dec 30, Nils Kassube did say:

> Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > But when I installed kubuntu 8.10 and discovered that the
> > <ctrl>+<enter> & <shift>+<ctrl>+<enter> shortcuts still didn't work.
> > I compared the version strings from mc's initial <F1> help screen
> > between both intrepid, and sabayon 3.5... Only to discover that both
> > were in fact the same version { mc 4.6.2-pre1 } But the two shortcuts
> > work on sabayon and NOT on kubuntu??????
> >
> > Would anybody know why?
> 
> I suppose the other distros have configured the shortcut.
> 
> > Or better yet, how to enable the shortcuts in 
> > kubuntu???
> 
> K-menu -> System Settings -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Command Shortcuts. 
> Select the application from the menu (if you can't find it there you can 
> use the menu editor to add it). At the bottom of the window 
> select "Custom" for "Shortcut for selected command" and enter your 
> shortcut in the new window. Don't forget to click "Apply".

Thankyou for the clue Nils.

But I don't think this is quite what I'm looking for. As far as I can
see the Command Shortcuts section is used to assign a shortcut to load an
application. Even if I added mc to the kmenu with the required "run in
terminal" option setting a command shortcut would only initialize another
instance of mc in a new terminal window. Wouldn't it?  

I'm looking to activate/unblock a couple of internal application
shortcuts INSIDE the terminal application mc (Midnight Commander) which
is my preferred file manager... And which must run inside a terminal such
as Konsole, or in one of the virtual consoles such as you can access with
<ctrl>+<alt>+<F2> (and return to the gui from with <alt>+<F7>) The odd
thing is that as I mentioned in my 2nd message to this thread, these
shortcuts do work if mc is running in a virtual console. But they fail when running inside Konsole (with both kubuntu 8.4 & kubuntu 8.10) The
difference with the other distros is that with them, these shortcuts do
work when mc is running in konsole...

-- 
|  ~^~	 ~^~
|  <?>	 <?>		 Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|      ^		      J(tWdy)P
|    \___/		   <<jtwdyp at ttlc.net>>




From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Thu Jan  1 20:01:08 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:01:08 -0500
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <200901011453.00285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901011453.00285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901011501.08958.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
> So how does one switch from gnome to kde, assuming enough of kde is
> installed to make it work, say about 450 megs of it TBE.

I assume you could switch to KDE from the menu on the login screen...  if KDE 
is truely installed, there should be a menu selection for it.



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Thu Jan  1 20:26:03 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:26:03 -0500
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <200901011501.08958.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <200901011453.00285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901011501.08958.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <200901011526.03768.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>On Thursday 01 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> So how does one switch from gnome to kde, assuming enough of kde is
>> installed to make it work, say about 450 megs of it TBE.
>
>I assume you could switch to KDE from the menu on the login screen...  if
> KDE is truely installed, there should be a menu selection for it.

There is not, and its logging into a tty screen that I have to do a startx 
from to get the usual gui.

Now, I just ran synaptics again, and it says very little of kde is installed, 
so I selected about 250 pkgs and fired it off again.  Some of this I 
recognize from having installed it at least twice before, so I'm beginnnig to 
get that deer in the headlights feeling.  4 times now I have pressed the fwd 
button on configuring it to use kdm as the default window manager.

Eventually I will come to the conclusion that its not worth it and go back to 
a fedora install if this continues.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
We are experiencing system trouble -- do not adjust your terminal.



From jtwdyp at ttlc.net  Thu Jan  1 20:30:40 2009
From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:30:40 -0500
Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc [ UPDATE: kde related? ]
In-Reply-To: <1230780332.17279.80.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0812300029330.5887@theInTrepidation.hsd1.nh.comcast.net.>
	<1230780332.17279.80.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0901011457550.5643@theInTrepidation.hsd1.nh.comcast.net.>


It would appear that on Dec 31, Ric Moore did say:

> I'll toss this in for your considerations. I kept having problems with
> Evolution allowing me to click on a url embedded within an email and it
> not being passed to Firefox. I beat my brains out using the setup for
> KDE, and sure enough, I had selected Firefox as my default application.
> Yes, this is using Kubunto 8.04 and KDE3x. But, what I found was that
> gnome was mixed in there, either during the install process or by some
> added application that drug gnome in with it. I found that gconf was
> more in charge of some processes than was KDE. Beats me, I'm am far from
> being a Guru of any sorts. 

Well you may not be a guru Ric, But you thought of something I hadn't
considered. Especially since I do install gnucash there would be some
gnome components on my kubuntu systems. 
 
> So, I called up gconf-editor and found all sorts of goodies that it
> would influence. I found html being directed to Konquerer. Funny that it
> never opened when I clicked on URLs. My point is that something like
> gconf may be at the heart of your problem. Once I edited it to Firefox,
> everything works. I haven't installed Intrepid yet, so I have NO CLUE if
> this applies. But, it may be something to examine.  Good luck and Happy
> New Years! Ric

But it doesn't seam that gconf-editor is one of them. If I enter it in a
konsole (intrepid) I get:

-> The program 'gconf-editor' is currently not installed.  You can install
-> it by typing:
-> sudo apt-get install gconf-editor
-> bash: gconf-editor: command not found

And when I poked around inside the directories ~/.gconf, & /etc/gconf
I couldn't find much stuff in there.

But I thank you for responding. You have at least helped me to
eliminate one possible source of the problem.

-- 
|   ---   ___
|   <0>   <->	   Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|	^		J(tWdy)P
|    ~\___/~	     <<jtwdyp at ttlc.net>>




From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Thu Jan  1 20:32:37 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:32:37 -0500
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <200901011526.03768.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901011453.00285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901011501.08958.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
	<200901011526.03768.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901011532.37177.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
> There is not, and its logging into a tty screen that I have to do a startx
> from to get the usual gui.

I think all you really have to do is to install:

kubuntu-desktop

and everything will be pulled in.



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Thu Jan  1 20:52:25 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:52:25 -0500
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <200901011532.37177.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <200901011453.00285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901011526.03768.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901011532.37177.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <200901011552.25591.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>On Thursday 01 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> There is not, and its logging into a tty screen that I have to do a startx
>> from to get the usual gui.
>
>I think all you really have to do is to install:
>
>kubuntu-desktop
>
>and everything will be pulled in.

That must be the one I missed.  According to synaptic, this will be about the 
20th time amarok will be installed.  And I don't recall if that was 3.5.10 
stuffs, or 4.1.2-3 stuffs.  We'll see in a bit as I don't think it had to 
download anything.

Thanks!

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
bureaucracy, n:
	A method for transforming energy into solid waste.



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Thu Jan  1 21:34:51 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:34:51 -0500
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <200901011552.25591.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901011453.00285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901011532.37177.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
	<200901011552.25591.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901011634.51283.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>On Thursday 01 January 2009, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>>On Thursday 01 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> There is not, and its logging into a tty screen that I have to do a
>>> startx from to get the usual gui.
>>
>>I think all you really have to do is to install:
>>
>>kubuntu-desktop
>>
>>and everything will be pulled in.
>
>That must be the one I missed.  According to synaptic, this will be about
> the 20th time amarok will be installed.  And I don't recall if that was
> 3.5.10 stuffs, or 4.1.2-3 stuffs.  We'll see in a bit as I don't think it
> had to download anything.
>
>Thanks!

That helped a bit, after a reboot I can now see some kde stuff in the gnome 
menu, but I still don't have a graphical login.
kmail was in the menu, but won't run.

>--
>Cheers, Gene
>"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
>bureaucracy, n:
>	A method for transforming energy into solid waste.



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Never tell a lie unless it is absolutely convenient.



From aeclist at candt.waitrose.com  Thu Jan  1 21:40:20 2009
From: aeclist at candt.waitrose.com (alan c)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:40:20 +0000
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <200901011634.51283.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901011453.00285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>	<200901011532.37177.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>	<200901011552.25591.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901011634.51283.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <495D3844.5000304@candt.waitrose.com>

Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 01 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>On Thursday 01 January 2009, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>>>On Thursday 01 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>> There is not, and its logging into a tty screen that I have to do a
>>>> startx from to get the usual gui.
>>>
>>>I think all you really have to do is to install:
>>>
>>>kubuntu-desktop
>>>
>>>and everything will be pulled in.
>>
>>That must be the one I missed.  According to synaptic, this will be about
>> the 20th time amarok will be installed.  And I don't recall if that was
>> 3.5.10 stuffs, or 4.1.2-3 stuffs.  We'll see in a bit as I don't think it
>> had to download anything.
>>
>>Thanks!
> 
> That helped a bit, after a reboot I can now see some kde stuff in the gnome 
> menu, but I still don't have a graphical login.
> kmail was in the menu, but won't run.

Since I believe you now have the original Ubuntu (gnome) and the 
recent additional package kubuntu-desktop installed, then at the login 
screen you should see the expected small menu item 'Options' I think 
at the lower left of the display.

Before you complete the login process, examine the
Options>session.

You should see an option for either the gnome session (previous?) and 
the kde session. Choose the kde session and then complete the login 
process.

This should take you into a full Kubuntu desktop, with many of the 
gnome related items also available.
-- 
alan cocks
Ubuntu user #10391
Linux user #360648



From karlok at fastmail.fm  Thu Jan  1 22:20:45 2009
From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:20:45 -0800
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <200901011634.51283.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901011453.00285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>	<200901011532.37177.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>	<200901011552.25591.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901011634.51283.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <495D41BD.3000505@fastmail.fm>

Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> That helped a bit, after a reboot I can now see some kde stuff in the gnome 
> menu, but I still don't have a graphical login.

Just a guess, but I would try

	dpkg-reconfigure -phigh kdm

Karl



From karlok at fastmail.fm  Thu Jan  1 22:43:07 2009
From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:43:07 -0800
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <495D41BD.3000505@fastmail.fm>
References: <200901011453.00285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>	<200901011532.37177.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>	<200901011552.25591.gene.heskett@verizon.net>	<200901011634.51283.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<495D41BD.3000505@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <495D46FB.5060309@fastmail.fm>

Karl Klinger wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
>> That helped a bit, after a reboot I can now see some kde stuff in the gnome 
>> menu, but I still don't have a graphical login.
> 
> Just a guess, but I would try
> 
> 	dpkg-reconfigure -phigh kdm
> 
> Karl
> 
That's with a sudo of course.



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan  1 22:58:16 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 17:58:16 -0500
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper
	=?iso-8859-1?q?left=09corner=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <200901011422.19528.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901011351.13363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901011422.19528.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901011758.16530.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> And with that, I can predict that your machine will never behave itself
> until that is fixed, probably with good memory.  Sometimes dumpster diving
> might find something usable?

Does the memory have to be completely free from error to be acceptable?



From karlok at fastmail.fm  Thu Jan  1 23:35:45 2009
From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:35:45 -0800
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper
	left corner.
In-Reply-To: <200901011758.16530.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901011351.13363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901011422.19528.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901011758.16530.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <495D5351.1020100@fastmail.fm>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> And with that, I can predict that your machine will never behave itself
>> until that is fixed, probably with good memory.  Sometimes dumpster diving
>> might find something usable?
> 
> Does the memory have to be completely free from error to be acceptable?
> 

Yes.

Karl



From karlok at fastmail.fm  Thu Jan  1 23:46:49 2009
From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:46:49 -0800
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper
	left corner.
In-Reply-To: <495D5351.1020100@fastmail.fm>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901011351.13363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901011422.19528.gene.heskett@verizon.net>	<200901011758.16530.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<495D5351.1020100@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <495D55E9.8070802@fastmail.fm>

Karl Klinger wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>>> And with that, I can predict that your machine will never behave itself
>>> until that is fixed, probably with good memory.  Sometimes dumpster diving
>>> might find something usable?
>> Does the memory have to be completely free from error to be acceptable?
>>
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Karl
> 
I have read that memory problems may be due to poor connections between 
the memory slots and the memory modules.  You could try pulling out the 
memory, cleaning the connectors, and putting it back in.  This might 
save you having to buy new memory.

Karl



From jjesse at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 00:10:00 2009
From: jjesse at gmail.com (Jonathan Jesse)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 19:10:00 -0500
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
Message-ID: <495d5b4a.0735640a.728b.23ea@mx.google.com>

I think we are missing a bigger problem....  I think you mentioned X is not starting automatically?  Is that true?  Are you have video card issues that I may have missed earlier

-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Klinger <karlok at fastmail.fm>
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 5:43 PM
To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: How to switch from gnome to kde?

Karl Klinger wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
>> That helped a bit, after a reboot I can now see some kde stuff in the gnome 
>> menu, but I still don't have a graphical login.
> 
> Just a guess, but I would try
> 
> 	dpkg-reconfigure -phigh kdm
> 
> Karl
> 
That's with a sudo of course.

-- 
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From temps.jo at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 00:31:56 2009
From: temps.jo at gmail.com (joris abadie)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 01:31:56 +0100
Subject: External USB NTFS drive
In-Reply-To: <545195.12382.qm@web81804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <9bed467e0711031311i488cc795v9f6d173c5b257629@mail.gmail.com>
	<545195.12382.qm@web81804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a5467650901011631q30feb513v68278d38eef11846@mail.gmail.com>

Sory I am french user so just do this :
sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
and all things is ok
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From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Fri Jan  2 00:35:31 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 16:35:31 -0800
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <495d5b4a.0735640a.728b.23ea@mx.google.com>
References: <495d5b4a.0735640a.728b.23ea@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <200901011635.31758.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Thursday 01 January 2009 4:10:00 pm Jonathan Jesse wrote:
> I think we are missing a bigger problem....  I think you mentioned X is not
> starting automatically?  Is that true?  Are you have video card issues that
> I may have missed earlier

Since it doesn't get to the login screen couldn't one just type kdm or gdm 
directly into the terminal and see the errors which would cause it to fail?  
kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop should have pulled everything they needed 
to run properly including the desktop manager for each of the modes and in 
fact should have given a requester upon installation of which dm would be the 
default.  At least it always has during each of the installs I have done for 
people.



-- 
73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n><   PDGA# 35276
http://the-inner-circle.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  2 01:36:57 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 20:36:57 -0500
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper left
	corner. **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <495D55E9.8070802@fastmail.fm>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<495D5351.1020100@fastmail.fm> <495D55E9.8070802@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <200901012036.58089.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009 6:46:49 pm Karl Klinger wrote:
> Karl Klinger wrote:
> > Steven Vollom wrote:
> >>> And with that, I can predict that your machine will never behave itself
> >>> until that is fixed, probably with good memory.  Sometimes dumpster
> >>> diving might find something usable?
> >>
> >> Does the memory have to be completely free from error to be acceptable?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > Karl
>
> I have read that memory problems may be due to poor connections between
> the memory slots and the memory modules.  You could try pulling out the
> memory, cleaning the connectors, and putting it back in.  This might
> save you having to buy new memory.
>
> Karl

You are so amazing, Karl.  I will try that.  You are making me laugh.  I 
realize things are not funny here, but unexpected happiness makes me laugh.  
I will use alcohol unless you again reply.  I tell you this so that if it is 
a proper cleaning agent you won't have to reply again.  I also plan to run a 
complete test after the cleaning.  If the connection points are clean, and 
there are no errors, I will post the conclusions for the sake of others.  
Thanks again friend.  I am going to post this as Resolved.  I left the above 
instead of removing irrelevant parts so that people will know the process, 
because I am posting resolved.

Steven

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  2 01:38:48 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 20:38:48 -0500
Subject: How do I use the archive?
In-Reply-To: <200901010951.32393.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200812312208.21348.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901010951.32393.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901012038.48695.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009 3:51:32 am Nils Kassube wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> > I would like to know how to access and use the archive.  I believe I
> > could reduce the number of questions I post as well as learn better by
> > fighting out the answers.
>
> I use Google and include the term "site:lists.ubuntu.com" (without the
> quotes).
>
>
> Nils

Thanks Nils.

Steven



From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Fri Jan  2 02:00:46 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:00:46 -0500
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper left
	corner. **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <200901012036.58089.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<495D55E9.8070802@fastmail.fm>
	<200901012036.58089.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901012100.46371.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
> I will use alcohol unless you again reply.

You might do better with a soft pencil eraser.



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Fri Jan  2 02:18:28 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:18:28 -0500
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <495D3844.5000304@candt.waitrose.com>
References: <200901011453.00285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901011634.51283.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<495D3844.5000304@candt.waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <200901012118.28419.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, alan c wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Thursday 01 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>On Thursday 01 January 2009, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>>>>On Thursday 01 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>> There is not, and its logging into a tty screen that I have to do a
>>>>> startx from to get the usual gui.
>>>>
>>>>I think all you really have to do is to install:
>>>>
>>>>kubuntu-desktop
>>>>
>>>>and everything will be pulled in.
>>>
>>>That must be the one I missed.  According to synaptic, this will be about
>>> the 20th time amarok will be installed.  And I don't recall if that was
>>> 3.5.10 stuffs, or 4.1.2-3 stuffs.  We'll see in a bit as I don't think it
>>> had to download anything.
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>
>> That helped a bit, after a reboot I can now see some kde stuff in the
>> gnome menu, but I still don't have a graphical login.
>> kmail was in the menu, but won't run.
>
>Since I believe you now have the original Ubuntu (gnome) and the
>recent additional package kubuntu-desktop installed, then at the login
>screen you should see the expected small menu item 'Options' I think
>at the lower left of the display.
>
>Before you complete the login process, examine the
>Options>session.
>
>You should see an option for either the gnome session (previous?) and
>the kde session. Choose the kde session and then complete the login
>process.
>
As I have said a few times now, I do not have a graphical login, I am logging 
on to the /dev/tty0 screen, which is using some totally funkity font with no 
quote chars etc.

I shut it off for the night.  Its sitting on my pool table and I don't have a 
stool tall enough to see it well through my trifocals.  Which leads to a neck 
ache. :(

>This should take you into a full Kubuntu desktop, with many of the
>gnome related items also available.
>--
>alan cocks
>Ubuntu user #10391
>Linux user #360648



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
People with narrow minds usually have broad tongues.



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Fri Jan  2 02:20:52 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:20:52 -0500
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <495D41BD.3000505@fastmail.fm>
References: <200901011453.00285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901011634.51283.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<495D41BD.3000505@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <200901012120.52872.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Karl Klinger wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> That helped a bit, after a reboot I can now see some kde stuff in the
>> gnome menu, but I still don't have a graphical login.
>
>Just a guess, but I would try
>
>	dpkg-reconfigure -phigh kdm
>
>Karl

Thank you, I'll try that in the morning.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
You mean you don't want to watch WRESTLING from ATLANTA?



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Fri Jan  2 02:22:30 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:22:30 -0500
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <495D46FB.5060309@fastmail.fm>
References: <200901011453.00285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<495D41BD.3000505@fastmail.fm> <495D46FB.5060309@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <200901012122.30478.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Karl Klinger wrote:
>Karl Klinger wrote:
>> Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> That helped a bit, after a reboot I can now see some kde stuff in the
>>> gnome menu, but I still don't have a graphical login.
>>
>> Just a guess, but I would try
>>
>> 	dpkg-reconfigure -phigh kdm
>>
>> Karl
>
>That's with a sudo of course.

Or as root I take it since I have now setup a root account.  From the tty1 
screen? Or from a running x-gnome session?

Thanks.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
You mean you don't want to watch WRESTLING from ATLANTA?



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Fri Jan  2 02:26:32 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:26:32 -0500
Subject: Hidden Menubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper
	=?iso-8859-1?q?left=09corner=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <200901011758.16530.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901011422.19528.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901011758.16530.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901012126.32504.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>> And with that, I can predict that your machine will never behave itself
>> until that is fixed, probably with good memory.  Sometimes dumpster diving
>> might find something usable?
>
>Does the memory have to be completely free from error to be acceptable?

Generally speaking, yes.  Computer software is not at all tolerant of a single 
wrong bit anyplace.  While you can understand the meaning with words whose 
spelling is completely fubar, the computer can't, its extremely literal.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
You mean you don't want to watch WRESTLING from ATLANTA?



From karlok at fastmail.fm  Fri Jan  2 02:35:41 2009
From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:35:41 -0800
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <495d5b4a.0735640a.728b.23ea@mx.google.com>
References: <495d5b4a.0735640a.728b.23ea@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <495D7D7D.30601@fastmail.fm>

Jonathan Jesse wrote:
> I think we are missing a bigger problem....  I think you mentioned X is not starting automatically?  Is that true?  Are you have video card issues that I may have missed earlier
> 
X is not the problem since Gene said that he could get into gnome using 
startx.

Karl



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Fri Jan  2 02:44:27 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:44:27 -0500
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in
	=?iso-8859-1?q?upper=09left?= corner.
In-Reply-To: <495D55E9.8070802@fastmail.fm>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<495D5351.1020100@fastmail.fm> <495D55E9.8070802@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <200901012144.27385.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Karl Klinger wrote:
>Karl Klinger wrote:
>> Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>> And with that, I can predict that your machine will never behave itself
>>>> until that is fixed, probably with good memory.  Sometimes dumpster
>>>> diving might find something usable?
>>>
>>> Does the memory have to be completely free from error to be acceptable?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Karl
>
>I have read that memory problems may be due to poor connections between
>the memory slots and the memory modules.  You could try pulling out the
>memory, cleaning the connectors, and putting it back in.  This might
>save you having to buy new memory.
>
>Karl

I hesitated to recommend that to Steve, not knowing if he is aware of the 
static control measures needed to handle memory.  In his case, rather than a 
complete removal, and then subjecting the edge connections on the memory to 
an un-known wiping medium, wet with a solvent, which in itself could generate 
some static just from mthe wiping action, I think I would simply remove and 
re-insert the memory, letting the wiping be done by the sockets contacts.

Steve:  The memory in most reasonably modern computers is on boards about an 
inch wide and nearly 6 inches long, and each memory socket has a (usually 
plastic) retainer latch at each end of the socket on the motherboard.  The 
latches open by pushing them out and down toward the motherboard, and will 
jack the memory loose in the sockets as they so move. Once the memory is 
jacked up, then reverse by pressing on the stick to push it back down in the 
socket, which will when they are properly seated again, raise those latches 
and cause them to engage the notches cut into the ends of the boards for that 
purpose.  And depending on the socket, it may take 10 pounds or so to push 
them back in.

For static control purposes, maintain hand or arm contact with the frame of 
the computer in order to be one with it in terms of voltage differentials 
such as one collects just walking across a rug or tile floor.  Those charges 
can reach several thousand volts, and 7 volts can blow some memory, so keep 
yourself in good physical contact with the frame while doing this.  It 
probably has 2 such sticks of memory in it, exercise both as described, then 
boot the memory tester program again and let it run for a few hours to see if 
the errors are still there.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
"Let us condemn to hellfire all those who disagree with us."
-- militant religionists everywhere



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Fri Jan  2 02:47:40 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:47:40 -0500
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <495d5b4a.0735640a.728b.23ea@mx.google.com>
References: <495d5b4a.0735640a.728b.23ea@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <200901012147.40557.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Jonathan Jesse wrote:
>I think we are missing a bigger problem....  I think you mentioned X is not
> starting automatically?  Is that true?  Are you have video card issues that
> I may have missed earlier

I did change the video card from an nvidia Vanta, to an ati 9200SE-256 this 
morning, but that did not make any difference, I had no graphical login 
anymore after the first reboot after the install, which was last saturday.  
So that to me is a non-issue.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Karl Klinger <karlok at fastmail.fm>
>Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 5:43 PM
>To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>Subject: Re: How to switch from gnome to kde?
>
>Karl Klinger wrote:
>> Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> That helped a bit, after a reboot I can now see some kde stuff in the
>>> gnome menu, but I still don't have a graphical login.
>>
>> Just a guess, but I would try
>>
>> 	dpkg-reconfigure -phigh kdm
>>
>> Karl
>
>That's with a sudo of course.
>
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-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Let the people think they govern and they will be governed.
		-- William Penn, founder of Pennsylvania



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Fri Jan  2 02:50:01 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:50:01 -0500
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <200901011635.31758.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <495d5b4a.0735640a.728b.23ea@mx.google.com>
	<200901011635.31758.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <200901012150.01601.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Pastor JW wrote:
>On Thursday 01 January 2009 4:10:00 pm Jonathan Jesse wrote:
>> I think we are missing a bigger problem....  I think you mentioned X is
>> not starting automatically?  Is that true?  Are you have video card issues
>> that I may have missed earlier
>
>Since it doesn't get to the login screen couldn't one just type kdm or gdm
>directly into the terminal and see the errors which would cause it to fail?

That I hadn't tried.  The too much forest & can't find the tree syndrome. :)  
I'll do that tomorrow for grins.

Thanks.

>kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop should have pulled everything they needed
>to run properly including the desktop manager for each of the modes and in
>fact should have given a requester upon installation of which dm would be
> the default.  At least it always has during each of the installs I have
> done for people.
>
>
>
>--
>73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n><   PDGA# 35276
>http://the-inner-circle.org
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
>http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Inara: "Thank you for the wine. It's very... fresh." 

Mal: "To Kaylee, and her inter-engine fermentation system."
				--Episode #4, "Shindig"




From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Fri Jan  2 03:02:17 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:02:17 -0500
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper left
	corner. **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <200901012100.46371.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901012036.58089.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901012100.46371.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <200901012202.17795.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>On Thursday 01 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>> I will use alcohol unless you again reply.
>
>You might do better with a soft pencil eraser.

No!  Not no, but hell no!  Dry, the eraser can and will generate local static 
charges of several thousand volts, further damaging the memory.  Simply 
exercising the memory out of the socket and back in should take care of the 
problem if indeed that is it.

My experience comes from nearly 60 of my 74 years, chasing electrons for a 
living.  I am a C.E.T. since 1972, and a broadcast engineer since 1964, and 
have been making a living fixing electronics since about 1949.

Yeah, now I'm a genuine old fart. :) Almost retired for several years, CE at 
WDTV-5 from 1984 to mid 2002, and my phone still rings when TSHTF.  I'll 
likely never be more than 'almost' retired till I fall over for good.  I have 
no intention of doing that, but I'm also diabetic, which says I'm at a high 
risk.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
A boss with no humor is like a job that's no fun.



From karlok at fastmail.fm  Fri Jan  2 03:36:54 2009
From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 19:36:54 -0800
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <200901012150.01601.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <495d5b4a.0735640a.728b.23ea@mx.google.com>	<200901011635.31758.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<200901012150.01601.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <495D8BD6.1070303@fastmail.fm>

Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 01 January 2009, Pastor JW wrote:
>> On Thursday 01 January 2009 4:10:00 pm Jonathan Jesse wrote:
>>> I think we are missing a bigger problem....  I think you mentioned X is
>>> not starting automatically?  Is that true?  Are you have video card issues
>>> that I may have missed earlier
>> Since it doesn't get to the login screen couldn't one just type kdm or gdm
>> directly into the terminal and see the errors which would cause it to fail?
> 
> That I hadn't tried.  The too much forest & can't find the tree syndrome. :)  
> I'll do that tomorrow for grins.
> 
The usual way to start kdm is "/etc/init.d/kdm start".  This script uses 
the start-stop-daemon command to start kdm.

Karl



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Fri Jan  2 03:52:10 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:52:10 -0500
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <495D8BD6.1070303@fastmail.fm>
References: <495d5b4a.0735640a.728b.23ea@mx.google.com>
	<200901012150.01601.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<495D8BD6.1070303@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <200901012252.10172.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Karl Klinger wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Thursday 01 January 2009, Pastor JW wrote:
>>> On Thursday 01 January 2009 4:10:00 pm Jonathan Jesse wrote:
>>>> I think we are missing a bigger problem....  I think you mentioned X is
>>>> not starting automatically?  Is that true?  Are you have video card
>>>> issues that I may have missed earlier
>>>
>>> Since it doesn't get to the login screen couldn't one just type kdm or
>>> gdm directly into the terminal and see the errors which would cause it to
>>> fail?
>>
>> That I hadn't tried.  The too much forest & can't find the tree syndrome.
>> :) I'll do that tomorrow for grins.
>
>The usual way to start kdm is "/etc/init.d/kdm start".  This script uses
>the start-stop-daemon command to start kdm.
>
>Karl

Thanks.  I'll give that a shot tomorrow too.


-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Sinners can repent, but stupid is forever.



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  2 04:32:39 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:32:39 -0500
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in
	=?iso-8859-1?q?upper=09left?= corner.
In-Reply-To: <200901012144.27385.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<495D55E9.8070802@fastmail.fm>
	<200901012144.27385.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901012332.39995.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> For static control purposes, maintain hand or arm contact with the frame of
> the computer in order to be one with it in terms of voltage differentials
> such as one collects just walking across a rug or tile floor.  Those
> charges can reach several thousand volts, and 7 volts can blow some memory,
> so keep yourself in good physical contact with the frame while doing this. 
> It probably has 2 such sticks of memory in it, exercise both as described,
> then boot the memory tester program again and let it run for a few hours to
> see if the errors are still there.

Thanks Gene.  I have never had instruction.  I have read and understand the 
static electricity issue, however, I have never been as careful as you 
suggested.  I always ground myself on the chassis, however, once that is 
done, I have not worried about static electricity.  Occasionally I touch the 
chassis just to make sure, but, just as a matter of habit.  Maybe I have 
caused a static problem, but I really don't think so.

I have seen technicians put assorted memory in plastic bags allowing them to 
be in contact with eachother.  I have also seen that memory function in 
another machine.  Certainly, I will be more careful now.  I am fortunate that 
I had my memory for the new computer checked as good after I had handled it 
in the manner I have described.  I hope you had a wonderful New Years Day.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  2 04:34:24 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:34:24 -0500
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper left
	corner. **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <200901012100.46371.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901012036.58089.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901012100.46371.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <200901012334.25114.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009 9:00:46 pm Bruce Marshall wrote:
> On Thursday 01 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
> > I will use alcohol unless you again reply.
>
> You might do better with a soft pencil eraser.

Thanks Bruce.  One person who answered the post suggested just removing and 
replacing to see if the friction of removal will clean them sufficiently.  I 
will try that first, because it seems the least dangerous, then your 
suggestion.  Happy New Year friend.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  2 04:46:25 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:46:25 -0500
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper left
	corner. **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <200901012202.17795.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901012100.46371.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
	<200901012202.17795.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901012346.25334.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009 10:02:17 pm Gene Heskett wrote:

> No!  Not no, but hell no!  Dry, the eraser can and will generate local
> static charges of several thousand volts, further damaging the memory. 
> Simply exercising the memory out of the socket and back in should take care
> of the problem if indeed that is it.

You have me by 8 and 1/2 years Gene, but the actual milage for me has been in 
a race car low on oil.  You are probably a few years younger than me in 
reality.  I am just hoping to stay alive long enough to see my new computer 
run.  BFG Technologies was the culprit, a broken new power supply, however 
they are terrible on their service, at least when they create the problem.  I 
have been waiting a month and a half for the replacement.  I regularly get a 
lot of promises from them, but no follow through.  I wish they understood how 
close I am to my end if life, and how much I want my new computer to work.

They say they are a little company only doing a few hundred million a year, 
but they are only experts at the race to starting over in their garage.  I 
would never consider any of their products again. They can't see the value in 
keeping a commitment or taking responsibility for their products.  I am sorry 
I went off subject there.  I have to face the problem every day and somehow I 
got on that subject.  I will leave it though, just in case you decide to 
purchase a power supply or video card or motherboard or any of the other 
products they peddle. They talk strong and deliver soft.

A Happy New Year to you.

Steven




From art.alexion at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 05:23:23 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 00:23:23 -0500
Subject: External USB NTFS drive
In-Reply-To: <a5467650901011631q30feb513v68278d38eef11846@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9bed467e0711031311i488cc795v9f6d173c5b257629@mail.gmail.com>
	<545195.12382.qm@web81804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<a5467650901011631q30feb513v68278d38eef11846@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00901012123s1fc106e6q53cccc2698d60d54@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 7:31 PM, joris abadie <temps.jo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sory I am french user so just do this :
> sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
> and all things is ok

merci joris, but not OK.  Kubuntu doesn't even create a block device
for this drive, let alone get to the file system.


-- 

--
artAlexion
sent unsigned from webmail interface



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Fri Jan  2 05:39:02 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh)
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:39:02 -0600
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper
	left	corner. **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <200901012202.17795.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901012036.58089.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901012100.46371.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
	<200901012202.17795.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <495DA876.3080608@swbell.net>

Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 01 January 2009, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>   
>> On Thursday 01 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>>     
>>> I will use alcohol unless you again reply.
>>>       
>> You might do better with a soft pencil eraser.
>>     
>
> No!  Not no, but hell no!  Dry, the eraser can and will generate local static 
> charges of several thousand volts, further damaging the memory.  Simply 
> exercising the memory out of the socket and back in should take care of the 
> problem if indeed that is it.
>
> My experience comes from nearly 60 of my 74 years, chasing electrons for a 
> living.  I am a C.E.T. since 1972, and a broadcast engineer since 1964, and 
> have been making a living fixing electronics since about 1949.
>
> Yeah, now I'm a genuine old fart. :) Almost retired for several years, CE at 
> WDTV-5 from 1984 to mid 2002, and my phone still rings when TSHTF.  I'll 
> likely never be more than 'almost' retired till I fall over for good.  I have 
> no intention of doing that, but I'm also diabetic, which says I'm at a high 
> risk.
>
>   

Ground yourself to the computer case before you handle the memory 
sticks. that's good advice. Do it again before you pop them back in. 
Avoid touching the connector strip when the sticks are out of the 
computer. That should take care of must issues

I like to take a small _SOFT_ bristle paint brush and brush out the 
sockets then blow out with a squirt or two from some canned air. Dust 
and lint can collect down in there. Usually unseating the memory and 
seating it back in will take care of cleaning the connectors. If they 
are discolored or corroded your probably better off replacing than 
trying to clean. This will probably mean the memory sockets on the 
mother board are bad also.

-- 
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.




From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Fri Jan  2 07:45:50 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:45:50 -0500
Subject: Hidden Menubar does not drop down when I put cursor in
	=?iso-8859-1?q?upper=09left?= corner.
In-Reply-To: <200901012332.39995.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901012144.27385.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901012332.39995.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901020245.51149.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>> For static control purposes, maintain hand or arm contact with the frame
>> of the computer in order to be one with it in terms of voltage
>> differentials such as one collects just walking across a rug or tile
>> floor.  Those charges can reach several thousand volts, and 7 volts can
>> blow some memory, so keep yourself in good physical contact with the frame
>> while doing this. It probably has 2 such sticks of memory in it, exercise
>> both as described, then boot the memory tester program again and let it
>> run for a few hours to see if the errors are still there.
>
>Thanks Gene.  I have never had instruction.  I have read and understand the
>static electricity issue, however, I have never been as careful as you
>suggested.  I always ground myself on the chassis, however, once that is
>done, I have not worried about static electricity.  Occasionally I touch the
>chassis just to make sure, but, just as a matter of habit.  Maybe I have
>caused a static problem, but I really don't think so.

Probably not unless you have a habit of shuffling your feet as you move to a 
better position, something that with a tender back, I am prone to do.  But I 
tend to be a bit cautious too.

>I have seen technicians put assorted memory in plastic bags allowing them to
>be in contact with eachother.  I have also seen that memory function in
>another machine.  Certainly, I will be more careful now.  I am fortunate
> that I had my memory for the new computer checked as good after I had
> handled it in the manner I have described.  I hope you had a wonderful New
> Years Day.
>
>Steven

Those plastic bags were probably made with an antistatic ingredient, often 
identifyable by their pale pink color, or by a cross hatch pattern. Std 
grocery store ziplock baggies might as well be a vandegraf generator.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
For an idea to be fashionable is ominous, since it must afterwards be
always old-fashioned.



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Fri Jan  2 07:57:07 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:57:07 -0500
Subject: Hidden Memubar does not drop down when I put cursor in upper left
	corner. **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <200901012346.25334.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901010537.28446.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901012202.17795.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901012346.25334.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901020257.07536.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 01 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>On Thursday 01 January 2009 10:02:17 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
>> No!  Not no, but hell no!  Dry, the eraser can and will generate local
>> static charges of several thousand volts, further damaging the memory.
>> Simply exercising the memory out of the socket and back in should take
>> care of the problem if indeed that is it.
>
>You have me by 8 and 1/2 years Gene, but the actual milage for me has been
> in a race car low on oil.  You are probably a few years younger than me in
> reality.  I am just hoping to stay alive long enough to see my new computer
> run.

Have faith in yourself, unless you have an incurable of some sort, the man 
won't call you till he needs you.

> BFG Technologies was the culprit, a broken new power supply, however 
> they are terrible on their service, at least when they create the problem. 
> I have been waiting a month and a half for the replacement.  I regularly
> get a lot of promises from them, but no follow through.  I wish they
> understood how close I am to my end if life, and how much I want my new
> computer to work.

Sometimes a little bad publicity greases the wheels.  The should  first and 
foremost understand that their poor performance is now a matter of a 
publically accessable mailing list archive, and work to prevent more such 
footnotes to their history.  FWIW, I recall that name very faintly, but not 
the context.

>They say they are a little company only doing a few hundred million a year,
>but they are only experts at the race to starting over in their garage.  I
>would never consider any of their products again. They can't see the value
> in keeping a commitment or taking responsibility for their products.  I am
> sorry I went off subject there.  I have to face the problem every day and
> somehow I got on that subject.  I will leave it though, just in case you
> decide to purchase a power supply or video card or motherboard or any of
> the other products they peddle. They talk strong and deliver soft.
>
>A Happy New Year to you.

Likewise Steven.
>Steven



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
It's so beautifully arranged on the plate -- you know someone's fingers
have been all over it.
		-- Julia Child on nouvelle cuisine.



From heidi.kumpumaki at dnainternet.net  Fri Jan  2 08:51:15 2009
From: heidi.kumpumaki at dnainternet.net (heidi.kumpumaki at dnainternet.net)
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:51:15 +0200
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <web-11781443@kaakkuri.dnainternet.net>

Hi!

I am a new user of Kubuntu, newest version. It works fine 
but screen frozes after 15-30 min of using.
Can anyone help me with this? Please, tell me all because 
I don't know about Linux so much.



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  2 09:24:26 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 03:24:26 -0600
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <web-11781443@kaakkuri.dnainternet.net>
References: <web-11781443@kaakkuri.dnainternet.net>
Message-ID: <200901020324.29256.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Friday 02 January 2009 2:51:15 am heidi.kumpumaki at dnainternet.net wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I am a new user of Kubuntu, newest version. It works fine
> but screen frozes after 15-30 min of using.
> Can anyone help me with this? Please, tell me all because
> I don't know about Linux so much.

It sounds like either your hard disk or memory is bad.  To check your hard 
disk (for a moment there, I typed something other than disk - glad I caught 
it), check the man page for fsck on how to run it to check for bad sectors.  
For your memory, look on the net for memtest86, burn it to CD and boot off of 
it.

And then you might want to see if there's an update for your x.org video 
drivers.  What video chipset do you have (nvidia, ati, intel, etc.)?



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  2 09:28:30 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 03:28:30 -0600
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <200901020324.29256.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <web-11781443@kaakkuri.dnainternet.net>
	<200901020324.29256.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901020328.32051.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Friday 02 January 2009 3:24:26 am Constantinos Maltezos wrote:
> On Friday 02 January 2009 2:51:15 am heidi.kumpumaki at dnainternet.net wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I am a new user of Kubuntu, newest version. It works fine
> > but screen frozes after 15-30 min of using.
> > Can anyone help me with this? Please, tell me all because
> > I don't know about Linux so much.
>
> It sounds like either your hard disk or memory is bad.  To check your hard
> disk (for a moment there, I typed something other than disk - glad I caught
> it), check the man page for fsck on how to run it to check for bad sectors.
> For your memory, look on the net for memtest86, burn it to CD and boot off
> of it.
>
> And then you might want to see if there's an update for your x.org video
> drivers.  What video chipset do you have (nvidia, ati, intel, etc.)?

While I'm at it, what are you doing when it happens?



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  2 09:36:26 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 03:36:26 -0600
Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc 4.6.2-pre1 from kubuntu repo???
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <200901020336.28031.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Sunday 28 December 2008 10:01:50 pm Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> Would anybody know why? Or better yet, how to enable the shortcuts in
> kubuntu???

In konsole, go to Settings->Edit Current Profile and select the Input tab.  
There will be a few choices.  Not having used mc in a long time, I'm not sure 
which one will work, but I'd guess that "Linux console" would be the safest 
bet.

If that doesn't work, I suggest installing xterm (the daddy of all Linux GUI 
terminal programs) and seeing if it works there.  If it does, let me know and 
I'll look for what else might be different about the two.



From jonorland at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 10:06:42 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:06:42 +0100
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <200901020324.29256.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <web-11781443@kaakkuri.dnainternet.net>
	<200901020324.29256.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901020206o9769f78s5a38c9718ae5b34a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/2 Constantinos Maltezos <pandarsson at yahoo.com>:
> On Friday 02 January 2009 2:51:15 am heidi.kumpumaki at dnainternet.net wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I am a new user of Kubuntu, newest version. It works fine
>> but screen frozes after 15-30 min of using.
>> Can anyone help me with this? Please, tell me all because
>> I don't know about Linux so much.
>
> It sounds like either your hard disk or memory is bad.  To check your hard
> disk (for a moment there, I typed something other than disk - glad I caught
> it), check the man page for fsck on how to run it to check for bad sectors.
> For your memory, look on the net for memtest86, burn it to CD and boot off of
> it.

There is an option to run memtest86 in the boot menu, no need burn it
to a CD. But you need to boot from a CD to be able to run fsck on your
root partition as it can not run on a mounted partition. You can use
your Kubuntu CD to boot from and run fsck and i think there is an
option fro memtest on the CD to.

/ Jonas



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  2 10:26:40 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 04:26:40 -0600
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901020206o9769f78s5a38c9718ae5b34a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <web-11781443@kaakkuri.dnainternet.net>
	<200901020324.29256.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<b8d784880901020206o9769f78s5a38c9718ae5b34a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901020426.41631.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Friday 02 January 2009 4:06:42 am Jonas Norlander wrote:
> There is an option to run memtest86 in the boot menu, no need burn it
> to a CD. But you need to boot from a CD to be able to run fsck on your
> root partition as it can not run on a mounted partition. You can use
> your Kubuntu CD to boot from and run fsck and i think there is an
> option fro memtest on the CD to.
>
> / Jonas

Thank you for the correction, Jonas.

Also, Heidi, if you need more detailed instructions on how to do this, let me 
know and I - or someone quicker than me - will post them.



From francisco.borges at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 10:33:55 2009
From: francisco.borges at gmail.com (Francisco Borges)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:33:55 +0100
Subject: lircrc, kaffeine, and other KDE apps
Message-ID: <f950edef0901020233i3b6c9a33m4820feb165fc6206@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Yesterday I spent some time configuring remote control support (LIRC)
for amarok. Some questions:

-- Does anyone in here has done the same for kaffeine? If so, could
you send it to me?

-- Are there KDE applications that work as LIRC clients (instead of
depending on mode setting and irexec)?

-- Is anyone aware of KDE4 desktop support (plans?) for LIRC?

Kind regards,
-- 
Francisco



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  2 10:51:04 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 04:51:04 -0600
Subject: a little nostalgia - ignore if you don't want to read something
	unrelated to help and support
Message-ID: <200901020451.05445.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

I was remembering the old days of Linux.  Does anyone here remember when you 
booted up to X and all you got was a pixelated grey background and an xterm 
with window management provided by FVWM?  When you really had to be a geek to 
dive in?  And how impressive FVWM was as it began to get more features?  I 
remember switching to a vterm (or just shutting down X to conserve memory) and 
playing bsd-games (especially hangman) and sasteroids all day.  And the 
openwindows wm was considered so advanced when it came out.

Before Linux, I was a power DOS user (well, there was the in-between time 
spent with OS/2).  I was really proud of the things I could make a batch file 
do despite DOS' weaknesses.  And using debug as an assembly compiler.  I had a 
lot of fun experimenting with that and even typing them up from DOS World 
magazine articles.  A friend and I would start dozens of text adventures with 
BASIC and never finish them.  And then I was introduced to the BASH shell.  
Wow.  The things I could do.  And learning C was super-fun.  (I still have a 
bumper sticker on my van that says, "if you hold a Unix shell to your ear, can 
you hear the C?")  Today, I can only remember how to make a "hello, World" 
program and I don't recall if you include stdio.h or conio.h, but when I have 
some time, I'm going to relearn.

What a way we've come, eh?  Sometimes I go to do something with a GUI 
application and I find myself kind of sad that it's so damned easy, lol.  I 
kind of miss the rabid arguments between emacs users and vi users.  I hated 
emacs, but it's a bit sad that it's gone.  But vi deserved to win, anyway.  :D

I admit loving my KDE4.  I don't want anything else unless KDE5 turns out to 
be at least as cool.  But like any geezer (though I'm a young one), I miss the 
old days.

Get off my lawn!



From nepal.roade at googlemail.com  Fri Jan  2 13:41:45 2009
From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:41:45 +0000
Subject: k3b refusing to burn a disk
Message-ID: <200901021341.45360.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>

I am using 8.04 with all updates.

Whenever I try to burn a data cd or dvd k3b at some point will 
eventually halt and display an error 

"cdrecord has no permission to open the device"

which device this refers to remains a mystery (at least to me)

here is the debug output

=======================================
System
-----------------------
K3b Version: 1.0.4

KDE Version: 3.5.10
QT Version:  3.3.8b
Kernel:      2.6.24-22-generic
Devices
-----------------------
SONY CDU4811 PY0A (/dev/scd1, ) [CD-ROM] [Error] [None]

PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112D 1.15 (/dev/scd0, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, 
DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL] [DVD-ROM, 
DVD-R Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, 
DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R 
Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, 
RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump]
K3bIsoImager
-----------------------
mkisofs print size result: 144685 (296314880 bytes)
Pipe throughput: 12306432 bytes read, 12290816 bytes written.

Used versions
-----------------------
mkisofs: 1.1.6
cdrecord: 1.1.6

cdrecord
-----------------------
/usr/bin/wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise 
RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.scsidev: '/dev/scd0'
devname: '/dev/scd0'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
Wodim version: 1.1.6
SCSI buffer size: 64512
Beginning DMA speed test. Set CDR_NODMATEST environment variable if 
device
communication breaks or freezes immediately after that.
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
Driveropts: 'burnfree'
Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
Version        : 5
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info    : 'PIONEER '
Identification : 'DVD-RW  DVR-112D'
Revision       : '1.15'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: 0x000A (CD-RW)
Profile: 0x002B (DVD+R/DL) 
Profile: 0x001B (DVD+R) 
Profile: 0x001A (DVD+RW) 
Profile: 0x0016 (DVD-R/DL layer jump recording) 
Profile: 0x0015 (DVD-R/DL sequential recording) 
Profile: 0x0014 (DVD-RW sequential recording) 
Profile: 0x0013 (DVD-RW restricted overwrite) 
Profile: 0x0011 (DVD-R sequential recording) 
Profile: 0x0010 (DVD-ROM) 
Profile: 0x000A (CD-RW) (current)
Profile: 0x0009 (CD-R) (current)
Profile: 0x0008 (CD-ROM) 
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc   CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P 
RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 1267712 = 1238 KB
FIFO size      : 12582912 = 12288 KB
Speed set to 4233 KB/s
Track 01: data   282 MB        
Total size:      324 MB (32:09.13) = 144685 sectors
Lout start:      324 MB (32:11/10) = 144685 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
  Indicated writing power: 1
  Reference speed: 0
  Is not unrestricted
  Is erasable
  Disk sub type: Ultra High speed Rewritable media (2)
  ATIP start of lead in:  -11076 (97:34/24)
  ATIP start of lead out: 336075 (74:43/00)
  1T speed low: 16 1T speed high: 16
  2T speed low:  8 2T speed high: 24
  power mult factor: 4 5
  recommended erase/write power: 1
  A1 values: 66 4A 99
  A2 values: 38 80 00
  A3 values: 04 C4 A0
Disk type:    Phase change
Manuf. index: 11
Manufacturer: Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
Blocks total: 336075 Blocks current: 336075 Blocks remaining: 191390
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed  24.0 in real SAO mode for single 
session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write in  2 seconds.
   1 seconds.
   0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer 
ready.
Performing OPC...
Sending CUE sheet...
Writing pregap for track 1 at -150
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01:    0 of  282 MB written.
Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  2A 00 00 00 00 1F 00 00 1F 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 04 93 00 00 0E 26 08 11 FA A8 03 00 00
Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0xA8 Qual 0x03 (vendor unique sense code 0xA8) [No 
matching qualifier] Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 76742656 (not valid) 
cmd finished after 0.007s timeout 200s
/usr/bin/wodim: A write error occured.
/usr/bin/wodim: Please properly read the error message above.
write track data: error after 63488 bytes
Writing  time:   18.337s
Average write speed 383.6x.
Fixating...
Errno: 5 (Input/output error), flush cache scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 04 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 44 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x44 Qual 0x00 (internal target failure) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) 
cmd finished after 9.673s timeout 200s
Trouble flushing the cache
Fixating time:    9.685s
/usr/bin/wodim: fifo had 193 puts and 2 gets.
/usr/bin/wodim: fifo was 0 times empty and 1 times full, min fill was 
99%.

cdrecord command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/wodim -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/scd0 speed=24 -dao 
driveropts=burnfree -overburn -data -tsize=144685s - 

mkisofs
-----------------------
144685
I: -input-charset not specified, using utf-8 (detected in locale 
settings)
Using PASTEUR_OR_BECHAMP_PLEOM000.HTM;1 for  
health/Pleomorphism/pasteur_or_bechamp-pleomorphic_organisms-2.htm 
(pasteur_or_bechamp-pleomorphic_organisms-1.htm)
Using A_LOOK_INTO_THE_INNER_TE000.PDF;1 for  
health/rawfudsresource/health sense/practical alternatives/A Look 
into the Inner Terrain1.pdf (A Look into the Inner Terrain.pdf)
Using LYMPH_DYSFUNCTION_IN_BR000.HTML;1 for  
health/rawfudsresource/health sense/warnings/Lymph Dysfunction in 
Breast Cancer3.html (Lymph Dysfunction in Breast Cancer2.html)
Using LYMPH_DYSFUNCTION_IN_BR001.HTML;1 for  
health/rawfudsresource/health sense/warnings/Lymph Dysfunction in 
Breast Cancer2.html (Lymph Dysfunction in Breast Cancer.html)
  0.69% done, estimate finish Fri Jan  2 13:23:19 2009
  1.04% done, estimate finish Fri Jan  2 13:23:19 2009
  1.39% done, estimate finish Fri Jan  2 13:23:19 2009
  1.73% done, estimate finish Fri Jan  2 13:23:19 2009
  2.08% done, estimate finish Fri Jan  2 13:23:19 2009
  2.42% done, estimate finish Fri Jan  2 13:23:19 2009
  2.76% done, estimate finish Fri Jan  2 13:23:19 2009
  3.12% done, estimate finish Fri Jan  2 13:23:19 2009
  3.46% done, estimate finish Fri Jan  2 13:23:19 2009
  3.81% done, estimate finish Fri Jan  2 13:23:19 2009
  4.15% done, estimate finish Fri Jan  2 13:23:19 2009

mkisofs calculate size command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/genisoimage -gui -graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid 
Pictures -volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN 
TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher  -preparer  -sysid 
LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 
1 -sort /tmp/kde-nepal/k3bDiIARa.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-nepal/k3bfp3Tdb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-nepal/k3bBUsVsb.tmp -no-cache-inodes -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 
2 -path-list /tmp/kde-nepal/k3bGL4Q5b.tmp 

mkisofs command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/genisoimage -gui -graft-points -volid 
Pictures -volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN 
TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher  -preparer  -sysid 
LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 
1 -sort /tmp/kde-nepal/k3bINWSMb.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-nepal/k3bVmW4Ca.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-nepal/k3b17g7sa.tmp -no-cache-inodes -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 
2 -path-list /tmp/kde-nepal/k3b9UhOgb.tmp 


=======================================

I have checked the installation settings, I have completely removed 
and reinstalled k3b but without any change in the above behaviour.
(and trashed too many disks and lost irrecoverable date due to this 
problem now) I am completely at a loss as to what to do about this, 
anyone got any ideas please?

nepal.



From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com  Fri Jan  2 14:38:04 2009
From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton)
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:38:04 +0000
Subject: Cleaning gold contacts
In-Reply-To: <mailman.93892.1230864321.17647.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.93892.1230864321.17647.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <495E26CC.7080603@btinternet.com>


>>   This might
>> save you having to buy new memory.
>>
>> Karl
>>     
>
> You are so amazing, Karl.  I will try that.  You are making me laugh.  I 
> realize things are not funny here, but unexpected happiness makes me laugh.  
> I will use alcohol unless you again reply.  I tell you this so that if it is 
> a proper cleaning agent you won't have to reply again.  I also plan to run a 
> complete test after the cleaning.  If the connection points are clean, and 
> there are no errors, I will post the conclusions for the sake of others.  
> Thanks again friend.  I am going to post this as Resolved.  I left the above 
> instead of removing irrelevant parts so that people will know the process, 
> because I am posting resolved.
>
> Steven
>
> *I designed, built and repaired umpteen computer PCBs in my job before I retired and the only*
>   
contact cleaner I would recommend is a rubber, preferably an ink rubber, 
but a pencil one will do, don't attempt to clean the socket - work
the 'cleaned' pcb contacts in and out of the socket a couple or three 
times and then use the rubber on the contacts again. Any liquid is
contra-indicated.
brian



From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com  Fri Jan  2 14:47:07 2009
From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton)
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:47:07 +0000
Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 48, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <mailman.94452.1230882718.17647.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.94452.1230882718.17647.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <495E28EB.80207@btinternet.com>


> On Thursday 01 January 2009, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>   
>> On Thursday 01 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>>     
>>> I will use alcohol unless you again reply.
>>>       
>> You might do better with a soft pencil eraser.
>>     
>
> No!  Not no, but hell no!  Dry, the eraser can and will generate local static 
> charges of several thousand volts, further damaging the memory.  Simply 
> exercising the memory out of the socket and back in should take care of the 
> problem if indeed that is it.
>
> My experience comes from nearly 60 of my 74 years, chasing electrons for a 
> living.  I am a C.E.T. since 1972, and a broadcast engineer since 1964, and 
> have been making a living fixing electronics since about 1949.
>
> Yeah, now I'm a genuine old fart. :) Almost retired for several years, CE at 
> WDTV-5 from 1984 to mid 2002, and my phone still rings when TSHTF.  I'll 
> likely never be more than 'almost' retired till I fall over for good.  I have 
> no intention of doing that, but I'm also diabetic, which says I'm at a high 
> risk.
>
>   

Oh dear, I've had disasters with cleaning fluids!  and have fixed many 
intermittent faults with a rubber, so I guess
you pays your money and takes your pick Bruce. I'm also 74 and diabetic 
but I haven't the steam left for any ding-dongs,
though I still use a soldering iron.
brian




From jonorland at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 15:24:52 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:24:52 +0100
Subject: k3b refusing to burn a disk
In-Reply-To: <200901021341.45360.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
References: <200901021341.45360.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901020724j33440a24sb445cd3c92d3f7b7@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/2 nepal <nepal.roade at googlemail.com>:
> I am using 8.04 with all updates.
>
> Whenever I try to burn a data cd or dvd k3b at some point will
> eventually halt and display an error
>
> "cdrecord has no permission to open the device"
>
> which device this refers to remains a mystery (at least to me)
>
> here is the debug output
>
> =======================================
> System
> -----------------------
> K3b Version: 1.0.4
>
> KDE Version: 3.5.10
> QT Version:  3.3.8b
> Kernel:      2.6.24-22-generic
> Devices
> -----------------------
> SONY CDU4811 PY0A (/dev/scd1, ) [CD-ROM] [Error] [None]
>
> PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112D 1.15 (/dev/scd0, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM,
> DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL] [DVD-ROM,
> DVD-R Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump,
> DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R
> Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R,
> RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump]
> K3bIsoImager
> -----------------------
> mkisofs print size result: 144685 (296314880 bytes)
> Pipe throughput: 12306432 bytes read, 12290816 bytes written.
>
> Used versions
> -----------------------
> mkisofs: 1.1.6
> cdrecord: 1.1.6
>
> cdrecord
> -----------------------
> /usr/bin/wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise
> RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.scsidev: '/dev/scd0'
> devname: '/dev/scd0'
> scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
> Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
> Wodim version: 1.1.6
> SCSI buffer size: 64512
> Beginning DMA speed test. Set CDR_NODMATEST environment variable if
> device
> communication breaks or freezes immediately after that.
> TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
> Driveropts: 'burnfree'
> Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
> Version        : 5
> Response Format: 2
> Capabilities   :
> Vendor_info    : 'PIONEER '
> Identification : 'DVD-RW  DVR-112D'
> Revision       : '1.15'
> Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
> Current: 0x000A (CD-RW)
> Profile: 0x002B (DVD+R/DL)
> Profile: 0x001B (DVD+R)
> Profile: 0x001A (DVD+RW)
> Profile: 0x0016 (DVD-R/DL layer jump recording)
> Profile: 0x0015 (DVD-R/DL sequential recording)
> Profile: 0x0014 (DVD-RW sequential recording)
> Profile: 0x0013 (DVD-RW restricted overwrite)
> Profile: 0x0011 (DVD-R sequential recording)
> Profile: 0x0010 (DVD-ROM)
> Profile: 0x000A (CD-RW) (current)
> Profile: 0x0009 (CD-R) (current)
> Profile: 0x0008 (CD-ROM)
> Using generic SCSI-3/mmc   CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
> Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
> Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P
> RAW/R96R
> Drive buf size : 1267712 = 1238 KB
> FIFO size      : 12582912 = 12288 KB
> Speed set to 4233 KB/s
> Track 01: data   282 MB
> Total size:      324 MB (32:09.13) = 144685 sectors
> Lout start:      324 MB (32:11/10) = 144685 sectors
> Current Secsize: 2048
> ATIP info from disk:
>  Indicated writing power: 1
>  Reference speed: 0
>  Is not unrestricted
>  Is erasable
>  Disk sub type: Ultra High speed Rewritable media (2)
>  ATIP start of lead in:  -11076 (97:34/24)
>  ATIP start of lead out: 336075 (74:43/00)
>  1T speed low: 16 1T speed high: 16
>  2T speed low:  8 2T speed high: 24
>  power mult factor: 4 5
>  recommended erase/write power: 1
>  A1 values: 66 4A 99
>  A2 values: 38 80 00
>  A3 values: 04 C4 A0
> Disk type:    Phase change
> Manuf. index: 11
> Manufacturer: Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
> Blocks total: 336075 Blocks current: 336075 Blocks remaining: 191390
> Starting to write CD/DVD at speed  24.0 in real SAO mode for single
> session.
> Last chance to quit, starting real write in  2 seconds.
>   1 seconds.
>   0 seconds. Operation starts.
> Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer
> ready.
> Performing OPC...
> Sending CUE sheet...
> Writing pregap for track 1 at -150
> Starting new track at sector: 0
> Track 01:    0 of  282 MB written.
> Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error
> CDB:  2A 00 00 00 00 1F 00 00 1F 00
> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
> Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 04 93 00 00 0E 26 08 11 FA A8 03 00 00
> Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
> Sense Code: 0xA8 Qual 0x03 (vendor unique sense code 0xA8) [No
> matching qualifier] Fru 0x0
> Sense flags: Blk 76742656 (not valid)
> cmd finished after 0.007s timeout 200s
> /usr/bin/wodim: A write error occured.
> /usr/bin/wodim: Please properly read the error message above.
> write track data: error after 63488 bytes
> Writing  time:   18.337s
> Average write speed 383.6x.
> Fixating...
> Errno: 5 (Input/output error), flush cache scsi sendcmd: no error
> CDB:  35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
> Sense Bytes: 70 00 04 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 44 00 00 00
> Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0
> Sense Code: 0x44 Qual 0x00 (internal target failure) Fru 0x0
> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
> cmd finished after 9.673s timeout 200s
> Trouble flushing the cache
> Fixating time:    9.685s
> /usr/bin/wodim: fifo had 193 puts and 2 gets.
> /usr/bin/wodim: fifo was 0 times empty and 1 times full, min fill was
> 99%.
>

> I have checked the installation settings, I have completely removed
> and reinstalled k3b but without any change in the above behaviour.
> (and trashed too many disks and lost irrecoverable date due to this
> problem now) I am completely at a loss as to what to do about this,
> anyone got any ideas please?
>
> nepal.
>

It looks like you have two drives, one Sony (scd1) and a Pioneer
(scd0) do you get same errors on both? What is the permissions on
those devices and what groups do you belong to? Give us the output of
this commands from a console "ls -l /dev/scd*" and "groups". It make
no sense that you first get a "cdrecord has no permission to open the
device" but it still goes on with the burning. While doing your
testing do you have a DVD-RW disc so you don't waste a lot of media?

/ Jonas



From francisco.borges at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 15:25:46 2009
From: francisco.borges at gmail.com (Francisco Borges)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:25:46 +0100
Subject: k3b refusing to burn a disk
In-Reply-To: <200901021341.45360.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
References: <200901021341.45360.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <f950edef0901020725v34ba2ed8mc98b3cc61e4241b@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,


On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:41 PM, nepal <nepal.roade at googlemail.com> wrote:
> I am using 8.04 with all updates.
>
> Whenever I try to burn a data cd or dvd k3b at some point will
> eventually halt and display an error
>
> "cdrecord has no permission to open the device"

That could happen if there is another user (who logged in before you),
and who is still logged into the computer.

If that is not the case, I would start by trying to:

determine which device it is (probably '/dev/scd0'), and doing something like:
(shell command!)

% sudo lsof | grep /dev/scd0

To see if some other user or program is locking the device.

Other than that you can always try to use another CD/DVD burner (i.e.
brasero), to see if the same happens.

If you are in a hurry to burn something, to force you way out of this
problem you could run k3b as root:

kdesudo k3b

which is nonetheless **not** something you should be normally doing,
but I guess that if you are in a hurry, it is the fastest way to get
the CD/DVD written.

> which device this refers to remains a mystery (at least to me)

My guess is that the device you cannot open is: /dev/scd0


[....]

> I have checked the installation settings, I have completely removed
> and reinstalled k3b but without any change in the above behaviour.
> (and trashed too many disks and lost irrecoverable date due to this
> problem now) I am completely at a loss as to what to do about this,
> anyone got any ideas please?

Other tips would be to try the next "burn procedure tests" using the
"test" option of k3b to avoid wasting disks. It does everything but
with the laser light turned off.

Kind regards,
-- 
Francisco



From nepal.roade at googlemail.com  Fri Jan  2 15:40:08 2009
From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:40:08 +0000
Subject: k3b refusing to burn a disk
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901020724j33440a24sb445cd3c92d3f7b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901021341.45360.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
	<b8d784880901020724j33440a24sb445cd3c92d3f7b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901021540.09002.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>

On Friday 02 January 2009 15:24:52 Jonas Norlander wrote:
> It looks like you have two drives, one Sony (scd1) and a Pioneer
> (scd0) do you get same errors on both? What is the permissions on
> those devices and what groups do you belong to? Give us the output
> of this commands from a console "ls -l /dev/scd*" 

nepal at kub-804:~$ ls -l /dev/scd*
brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2009-01-02 12:06 /dev/scd0
brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 1 2009-01-02 12:06 /dev/scd1
nepal at kub-804:~$


> and "groups". 

nepal at kub-804:~$ groups
nepal adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin 
admin


> It  
> make no sense that you first get a "cdrecord has no permission to
> open the device" but it still goes on with the burning. While doing
> your testing do you have a DVD-RW disc so you don't waste a lot of
> media?

Yes. Plus I have a few dvdrw too. The first of the dvd batch I used 
worked without problem, but none have since.

>
> / Jonas





From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Fri Jan  2 15:56:29 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:56:29 -0500
Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 48, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <495E28EB.80207@btinternet.com>
References: <mailman.94452.1230882718.17647.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
	<495E28EB.80207@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <200901021056.30004.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Friday 02 January 2009, Brian Wootton wrote:
>> On Thursday 01 January 2009, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>>> On Thursday 01 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>> I will use alcohol unless you again reply.
>>>
>>> You might do better with a soft pencil eraser.
>>
>> No!  Not no, but hell no!  Dry, the eraser can and will generate local
>> static charges of several thousand volts, further damaging the memory. 
>> Simply exercising the memory out of the socket and back in should take
>> care of the problem if indeed that is it.
>>
>> My experience comes from nearly 60 of my 74 years, chasing electrons for a
>> living.  I am a C.E.T. since 1972, and a broadcast engineer since 1964,
>> and have been making a living fixing electronics since about 1949.
>>
>> Yeah, now I'm a genuine old fart. :) Almost retired for several years, CE
>> at WDTV-5 from 1984 to mid 2002, and my phone still rings when TSHTF. 
>> I'll likely never be more than 'almost' retired till I fall over for good.
>>  I have no intention of doing that, but I'm also diabetic, which says I'm
>> at a high risk.
>
>Oh dear, I've had disasters with cleaning fluids!

Yeah, when I started out in '49, the fav bit of panther piss for cleaning 
anything was methyl chloride.  I'm amazed some of us still have kidney's 
left.  Or brains.  Then later the fav was freon TF, the biggest joke DuPont 
ever foisted off on us.  Made the jerks rich, and we were fighting clogged 
heads on vcr's every 2-3 hours run time or less.  It took me 10 years to get 
smart though, and when I switched to plain old paint thinner alcohol as sold 
in qt cans at ACE Hdwe, the vcr head cleaning required dropped by 95+%!  From 
a couple of times a day to maybe once a week.

And sometimes one even has to use plain old tap water.  I recall one day, 
while the switcher playing a bicycled Flintstones tape on a 2" quad machine 
at a small station I was Chiefing at in NM, it dropped out at the 22 minute 
mark, we cleaned the head & and restarted it and it plugged on the exact same 
frame, 3 times.  We rolled a few commercials to fill the time and I did the 
clean thing again, but poised to hit the stop button the instant it failed.  
I spooled out a few feet of the tape to see if there was something on it, and 
found a dime sized spot of what looked like dried coca-cola on it, also on 
the back of the next wrap of tape.  Freon TF nor alcohol wouldn't touch it 
and you could plainly see where the heads had burnt their way across it, so I 
wet a qtip from the water cooler, and about 10 qtips later, plus a session 
with a hair dryer, also cleaned the head with water & dried it, the tape 
played fine.

A roll of that stuff was then about $400, and the dub charge about matched it.  
We had no money for such tomfoolery as we sometimes were late with payroll 
till Jim Bakker (of the infamous PTL Club) paid, which was never less than 6 
months late.  I sent a very hot letter to the syndicator and to the last 
station on the bicycle route.  It may even have self destructed en-route as I 
never got a reply from either.

But for a long time we hit those heads with freon and water just to get 
everything.  But make sure its bone dry before tape hits the head or you'll 
wreck everything.  That head was turning 14,400 rpm.

>and have fixed many 
>intermittent faults with a rubber,

So have I, but that was back when a tube could absorb a few watts extra grid 
dissipation or ttl based chip could take a few picoamps if current through 
the vbe junctions with no damage.  Today, almost everything is cmos, and 
forcing even one electron through the silicon dioxide that is the gate 
dielectric, something that takes less than 10 volts applied in many cases, 
will permanently change the characteristics of the device.  One simply cannot 
be too paranoid about static around cmos stuff.

>so I guess 
>you pays your money and takes your pick Bruce. I'm also 74 and diabetic
>but I haven't the steam left for any ding-dongs,

a common complaint for diabetics.  Even the pill isn't much help.. :(

>though I still use a soldering iron.

So do I, along with a dual trace 100mhz scope and a few other tools.

>brian



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Only through hard work and perseverance can one truly suffer.



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Fri Jan  2 16:17:57 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:17:57 -0500
Subject: [Mandrakeot] First Impressions: Mint 6 Universal
Message-ID: <200901021117.57206.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Friday 02 January 2009, David wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Wednesday 31 December 2008, David wrote:
>>> Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>> What the heck does Mint use for a 'switchdesk' utility?, I couldn't
>>>>> find
>>>>
>>>> it in synaptic.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all you freshly minted Mint guru's :)
>>>
>>> It isn't in the login screen?
>>>
>>> By hand edit  /home/<username>/.dmrc
>>>
>>> [Desktop]
>>> Session=KDE   <<< probably says GNOME might say Default
>>>
>>> same for root
>>
>> Prelude to this message.  I changed the optical drives to one that work,
>> and it boots at a normal speed now, before there was about a 3 minute
>> delay while it sat there dead telling me to press F1 for setup.
>>
>> I also swapped the nvidia Vanta (a tnt rage card without much memory) for
>> an ATI 9200SE-256 card, which it found without incident at boot time, but
>> the default font makes garbage blocks of noise for an apostrophe.
>>
>> It didn't have one, so I copied ~/gene/.dmrc to /root/.dmrc
>> It now reads like this:
>>
>> [Desktop]
>> #Session=default
>> Session=kde
>>
>> Other than disabling the gnome login in favor of a tty0 login, no effect.
>>
>>> /root/.drmc
>>
>> Humm, I've been changing ~/.dmrc, but all I've done is make it give me a
>> login on tty0, from which I can't:
>> startkde
>> start kde
>>
>> But startx runs gnome as usual.  With one virtual screen. :(
>>
>>
>>big snip<
>
>Right click on the bottom bar > Select 'Add to panel' > scroll to the
>bottom and highlight 'Workspace switcher' > click on 'Add' button.
>
>This cam be moved anywhere you like and locked into place. Note that the
>other applets on the bar are probably already 'locked in place'. Right
>click and uncheck 'Lock in place'. Be sure to relock things when you get
>them placed as you like them.
>
>Right click in the Workspace Switcher and select 'Preferences' Here you
>select how many and of you want them stacked.
>
>BTW if the bar is too narrow. Right click and again select 'Properties
>to change the size.

I got it working this morning.  One clue was that I had to edit 
the /etc/init.d/kdm script to allow it to start if it wasn't the default 
choice.  Then as I was browsing the kde menus, I ran across the graphical 
login, and was informed that this was disabled if a theme was installed.  So 
I nuked the theme and rebooted, it came up in a graphical login screen, and 
ran kde when I logged in.  This was, however, after logging in to tty1, and 
execing 'dpkg-reconfigure -phigh kdm' which brought up an ncurses gui with no 
way to click on the ok, and the tab keys were void effect.

Then from that same tty1 screen I ran /etc/init.d/kdm start, and was informed 
that it was not going to because it wasn't the default.  That is when I found 
the message about setting one of the scripts variable from true to false 
would allow it to start.

I would assume the default was not changed by the dpkg-reconfigure operation 
because the tty1 screen has no mouse, gpm seemingly non-existant on ubuntu.

So I assume that if I could run it from a terminal in kde, that I could effect 
this default setting, wherever the hell it may be recorded, but that brings 
up the next question, which is, how the heck do you get a terminal window in 
this new kde?  It is not on the K menu, and it is not on the right click 
menu.

I'll send this to the kubuntu list too, as they have been throwing ideas my 
way, but will have to send it twice as that list isn't subbed through gmail.


-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
In war it is not men, but the man who counts.
		-- Napoleon



From charioteer7 at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 17:19:29 2009
From: charioteer7 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Bays)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:19:29 -0500
Subject: Audio with Kopete?
Message-ID: <646a014e0901020919v537ff68ja9226a565f640324@mail.gmail.com>

K-Users:

I got a new webcam, a Logitech Communicate MP, and it works great
out-of-the-box with Kubuntu Hardy.
I have figured out how to get the video feed from this to work in
Kopete. (wish it worked in Pidgin.)

But I have no clue how to get the audio from the webcam microphone
working in Kopete, if this is even possible.
The Yahoo Messenger client on Windows will do audio just fine. The
Kopete help files are no help at all.

Any thoughts? Has anyone gotten webcam audio through Kopete? Or do I
have to do a simultaneous voip call with ekiga or skype?

Cheers,


Geoffrey Bays



From jonorland at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 19:12:41 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:12:41 +0100
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <200901012252.10172.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <495d5b4a.0735640a.728b.23ea@mx.google.com>
	<200901012150.01601.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<495D8BD6.1070303@fastmail.fm>
	<200901012252.10172.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901021112y384be249x599ff365f699c495@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/2 Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net>:
> On Thursday 01 January 2009, Karl Klinger wrote:
>>Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Thursday 01 January 2009, Pastor JW wrote:
>>>> On Thursday 01 January 2009 4:10:00 pm Jonathan Jesse wrote:
>>>>> I think we are missing a bigger problem....  I think you mentioned X is
>>>>> not starting automatically?  Is that true?  Are you have video card
>>>>> issues that I may have missed earlier
>>>>
>>>> Since it doesn't get to the login screen couldn't one just type kdm or
>>>> gdm directly into the terminal and see the errors which would cause it to
>>>> fail?
>>>
>>> That I hadn't tried.  The too much forest & can't find the tree syndrome.
>>> :) I'll do that tomorrow for grins.
>>
>>The usual way to start kdm is "/etc/init.d/kdm start".  This script uses
>>the start-stop-daemon command to start kdm.
>>
>>Karl
>
> Thanks.  I'll give that a shot tomorrow too.
>

And kdm is writing a log at /var/log/kdm. Not much in it for me but
perhaps it has some clues for you?

/ Jonas



From art.alexion at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 20:50:53 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:50:53 -0500
Subject: k3b refusing to burn a disk
In-Reply-To: <f950edef0901020725v34ba2ed8mc98b3cc61e4241b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901021341.45360.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
	<f950edef0901020725v34ba2ed8mc98b3cc61e4241b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <495E7E2D.8090705@gmail.com>

Francisco Borges wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:41 PM, nepal <nepal.roade at googlemail.com> wrote:
>   
>> I am using 8.04 with all updates.
>>
>> Whenever I try to burn a data cd or dvd k3b at some point will
>> eventually halt and display an error
>>
>> "cdrecord has no permission to open the device"
>>     
>
> That could happen if there is another user (who logged in before you),
> and who is still logged into the computer.
>
> If that is not the case, I would start by trying to:
>
> determine which device it is (probably '/dev/scd0'), and doing something like:
> (shell command!)
>
> % sudo lsof | grep /dev/scd0
>
> To see if some other user or program is locking the device.
>   
I have sometimes found that kio_* sometimes takes possession of the 
drive and causes these types of errors.  Usually, however, k3b prompts 
you when this happens and asks you if you want to kill that process.




From nepal.roade at googlemail.com  Fri Jan  2 21:13:19 2009
From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:13:19 +0000
Subject: k3b refusing to burn a disk
In-Reply-To: <f950edef0901020725v34ba2ed8mc98b3cc61e4241b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901021341.45360.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
	<f950edef0901020725v34ba2ed8mc98b3cc61e4241b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901022113.19771.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>

On Friday 02 January 2009 15:25:46 Francisco Borges wrote:
> Other tips would be to try the next "burn procedure tests" using
> the "test" option of k3b to avoid wasting disks. It does everything
> but with the laser light turned off.

I did try that and the exact same error was generated. I had also 
tried running k3b as root before (i.e. permission problems), but 
again the same error was generated. As this is a completely fresh 
install of k3b, permissions should have been setup, so I suspect some 
other problem. Either my hardware, a Pioneer drive less than one year 
old is faulty, or something is wrong with the k3b package itself. I 
also tried a forced install of the previous version of k3b, but that 
produced the same results and outcome.

The only thing I havn't tried so far is other burning software. I 
didn't want to install brasero because of dependencies it pulls in, 
but this I will try next, tonight or in the morning.

nepal.




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  2 21:58:52 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:58:52 -0500
Subject: When I open my computer,
	the 'active window bar' at the top of a window does not install.
Message-ID: <200901021658.52363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I just never know what to call the bar at the top of a window; it is the one 
that has the '-' tab, the 'box or overlapping boxes' tab, and the 'x' tab in 
the upper right hand corner of the page.  Anyway, when I boot up, that bar 
does not activate.  I have to open a konsole, type in kwin, and leave that 
konsole open the entire session, or the bar deactivates.

There doesn't seem to be a man page to explain this or it's cure.

The problem may have been caused by bad memory, but I have removed the 
offending memory stick, and it still does not work without the extra effort.
Does anyone know the cure for this?  Thanks!

Steven



From jonorland at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 22:29:05 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:29:05 +0100
Subject: k3b refusing to burn a disk
In-Reply-To: <200901022113.19771.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
References: <200901021341.45360.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
	<f950edef0901020725v34ba2ed8mc98b3cc61e4241b@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901022113.19771.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901021429r3fc54075if8b86a1c4e78645d@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/2 nepal <nepal.roade at googlemail.com>:
> On Friday 02 January 2009 15:25:46 Francisco Borges wrote:
>> Other tips would be to try the next "burn procedure tests" using
>> the "test" option of k3b to avoid wasting disks. It does everything
>> but with the laser light turned off.
>
> I did try that and the exact same error was generated. I had also
> tried running k3b as root before (i.e. permission problems), but
> again the same error was generated. As this is a completely fresh
> install of k3b, permissions should have been setup, so I suspect some
> other problem. Either my hardware, a Pioneer drive less than one year
> old is faulty, or something is wrong with the k3b package itself. I
> also tried a forced install of the previous version of k3b, but that
> produced the same results and outcome.
>
> The only thing I havn't tried so far is other burning software. I
> didn't want to install brasero because of dependencies it pulls in,
> but this I will try next, tonight or in the morning.
>
> nepal.
>

You could try download nero for linux and try it. Do you get the same
error from both your drives? Can you borrow a drive from a friend and
see if that work in that case it's probably your burner.

/ Jonas



From art.alexion at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 22:29:43 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:29:43 -0500
Subject: When I open my computer, the 'active window bar' at the top of
	a window does not install.
In-Reply-To: <200901021658.52363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901021658.52363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <495E9557.8020707@gmail.com>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I just never know what to call the bar at the top of a window; it is the one 
> that has the '-' tab, the 'box or overlapping boxes' tab, and the 'x' tab in 
> the upper right hand corner of the page.  Anyway, when I boot up, that bar 
> does not activate.  I have to open a konsole, type in kwin, and leave that 
> konsole open the entire session, or the bar deactivates.
> 
> There doesn't seem to be a man page to explain this or it's cure.
> 
> The problem may have been caused by bad memory, but I have removed the 
> offending memory stick, and it still does not work without the extra effort.
> Does anyone know the cure for this?  Thanks!

Steven,

Sounds like you are missing the window title bar.  This is controlled by 
the window manager, most likely kwin or emerald.  Sometimes you get that 
behavior when you use kwin with compiz, or emerald without  it.  I have 
had the problem running wine apps under compiz.

Does restarting X (ctrl+alt+backspace) help?

Have you checked the window settings from the settings manager?

Have you tried reloading the window manager?




From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Fri Jan  2 22:43:40 2009
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:43:40 +1000
Subject: k3b refusing to burn a disk
In-Reply-To: <200901021341.45360.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
References: <200901021341.45360.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <200901030843.44169.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>

On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:41:45 pm nepal wrote:
Is your user a member of the cdrom group?
-- 
Lindsay Mathieson
http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home
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From kassube at gmx.net  Fri Jan  2 22:54:42 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:54:42 +0100
Subject: When I open my computer,
	the 'active window bar' at the top of a window does not install.
In-Reply-To: <200901021658.52363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901021658.52363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901022354.43312.kassube@gmx.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I just never know what to call the bar at the top of a window; it is
> the one that has the '-' tab, the 'box or overlapping boxes' tab, and
> the 'x' tab in the upper right hand corner of the page.  

I think it is called "title bar".

> Anyway, when I boot up, that bar does not activate.  

You mean the title bar for applications automatically started from entries 
in the $HOME/.kde/Autostart directory? And is it the same for all 
applications or only some? And which applications are affected?

> I have to open a konsole, type in 
> kwin, and leave that konsole open the entire session, or the bar
> deactivates.

Someone else mentioned in a previous thread that you could use the 
command "kwin &" (without quotes) and then you could close the Konsole. 
Well, maybe it should be "nohup kwin &". And you could also try to use 
the command kwin with the run dialog (ALT-F2).

> The problem may have been caused by bad memory, but I have removed the
> offending memory stick, and it still does not work without the extra
> effort.

I don't think it would persist after you have removed the bad memory. BTW: 
Which version are you using? IIRC it is 8.10 but I'm not sure.


Nils



From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Fri Jan  2 23:58:01 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:58:01 -0500
Subject: When I open my computer,
	the 'active window bar' at the top of a window does not install.
In-Reply-To: <200901021658.52363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901021658.52363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901021858.01718.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Friday 02 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
> I just never know what to call the bar at the top of a window;

The Title Bar



From nepal.roade at googlemail.com  Sat Jan  3 00:06:30 2009
From: nepal.roade at googlemail.com (nepal)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:06:30 +0000
Subject: k3b refusing to burn a disk
In-Reply-To: <200901030843.44169.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>
References: <200901021341.45360.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
	<200901030843.44169.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901030006.30504.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>

On Friday 02 January 2009 22:43:40 Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> Is your user a member of the cdrom group?

yes.

nepal.




From d.mcglone at att.net  Sat Jan  3 00:39:03 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 19:39:03 -0500
Subject: k3b refusing to burn a disk
In-Reply-To: <200901021341.45360.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
References: <200901021341.45360.nepal.roade@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <200901021939.03496.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Friday 02 January 2009 8:41:45 am nepal wrote:
> I am using 8.04 with all updates.
>
> Whenever I try to burn a data cd or dvd k3b at some point will
> eventually halt and display an error
>
> "cdrecord has no permission to open the device"
>
> which device this refers to remains a mystery (at least to me)
>
> here is the debug output
>
I bet you anything the image your trying to burn is bigger than what the CD 
can hold. 700Mb.

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 03:48:02 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 22:48:02 -0500
Subject: When I open my computer,
	the 'active window bar' at the top of a window does not install.
In-Reply-To: <200901022354.43312.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901021658.52363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901022354.43312.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901022248.02669.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> You mean the title bar for applications automatically started from entries
> in the $HOME/.kde/Autostart directory? And is it the same for all
> applications or only some? And which applications are affected?
Every application I have tried is affected, however I haven't tried them all.

> Someone else mentioned in a previous thread that you could use the
> command "kwin &" (without quotes) and then you could close the Konsole.
When I did that, the moment the Konsole closed, the Titlebar went inactive.
> Well, maybe it should be "nohup kwin &". And you could also try to use
> the command kwin with the run dialog (ALT-F2).
The minute I closed the konsole, the Titlebar went inactive.
 > I don't think it would persist after you have removed the bad memory. BTW:
> Which version are you using? IIRC it is 8.10 but I'm not sure.
Kubuntu Hardy KDE 3.5.10

When I open using Alt+F2, it activated the Titlebar, however when I close, 
then reboot the computer, it opens with an inactive Titlebar again.  It is 
just slightly better to not have the Konsole open all the time.

Thanks for the effort, I have to keep working the problem.

Steven




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 03:55:40 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 22:55:40 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
Message-ID: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I have posted this problem many times.  Someone made suggestions of how to 
create a subfolder in sdb5 that would work, however, I have to activate sdb5 
every time I bootup.  And then, only the subfolder is functional.  Would 
anyone like to take a crack at this ongoing problem.  Thanks!

Steven



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  3 04:29:12 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 22:29:12 -0600
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901022229.16949.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Friday 02 January 2009 9:55:40 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> I have posted this problem many times.  Someone made suggestions of how to
> create a subfolder in sdb5 that would work, however, I have to activate
> sdb5 every time I bootup.  And then, only the subfolder is functional. 
> Would anyone like to take a crack at this ongoing problem.  Thanks!
>
> Steven

I'm not sure I understand.  You're not talking about mounting it, are you?  
And you're only able to access one subfolder on the drive?  Would I be correct 
to assume that this is a USB drive?  If so, I believe there's a current 
kernel(?) limitation where it doesn't correctly poll UMS devices at bootup.  I 
even have to eject and push in a DVD (movie) to get it recognized again 
sometimes.

Pardon me if I'm off the mark here.



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  3 04:56:01 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 22:56:01 -0600
Subject: When I open my computer,
	the 'active window bar' at the top of a window does not install.
In-Reply-To: <200901022248.02669.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901021658.52363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901022354.43312.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901022248.02669.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901022256.05318.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Friday 02 January 2009 9:48:02 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> When I open using Alt+F2, it activated the Titlebar, however when I close,
> then reboot the computer, it opens with an inactive Titlebar again.  It is
> just slightly better to not have the Konsole open all the time.
>
> Thanks for the effort, I have to keep working the problem.
>
> Steven

I haven't kept up with this thread much, so I don't know if this has been 
suggested.  Do alt+F2 and type in kcontrol.  Then click on "KDE Components", 
then "Session Manager".  Make sure the dropdown menu where it says "Window 
Manager" says "Kwin".  If needed, log out and back in to see if it worked.

If not...

To be honest, it sounds like startkde is corrupted somehow.  Make a new user 
and log in to KDE.  Does it have the same problem?  If so, you might want to 
manually force a reinstall of some KDE packages.  If not, try  log out of KDE, 
go to a virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+F2), renaming your .kde directory in your 
home directory, go back to the login (ctrl+alt+F7) and log in to KDE to see if 
it starts working right.  If it does, do the same thing as above (logging out 
of KDE and going to a virtual terminal), delete the new .kde directory, rename 
the old one that you renamed to .kde and try this:

mkdir ~/.kde/share/config/backup
mv ~/.kde/share/config/kwin* ~/.kde/share/config/backup

Then go back to the login (ctrl+alt+F7) and login to see if it works.  I'm 
thinking that it will.  You might need to adjust your settings to how you want 
them again if you had changed them from the default.



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 05:05:54 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:05:54 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901022229.16949.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901022229.16949.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901030005.55165.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

With any luck, my new computer will be functional in a week or two.

I am trying to fix this one; I want to give it to an acquaintance who doesn't 
have a computer and can't afford one.  It will only hold 1gb of ram, so I 
will replace the defective 512mb stick.  Still, I would like it to work 
properly for him, if possible.

A last resort is to format and start over, after the new computer is running 
smoothly.  I haven't been willing to shut down for the length of time 
required to reinstall the OS and partition the drives, and I haven't had a 
place to put the data anyway.  I can't think of anything else right now that 
might give you hints of what may be the problem.

I could send you a screenprint of the drive layout, but it takes too much 
space to put on the list; I would have to direct it to your email address.  
Thank you for your willingness to try to solve the problem.  I really want to 
help this guy.

Steven



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  3 05:18:19 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:18:19 -0600
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030005.55165.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901022229.16949.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<200901030005.55165.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901022318.20833.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Friday 02 January 2009 11:05:54 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> With any luck, my new computer will be functional in a week or two.
>
> I am trying to fix this one; I want to give it to an acquaintance who
> doesn't have a computer and can't afford one.  It will only hold 1gb of
> ram, so I will replace the defective 512mb stick.  Still, I would like it
> to work properly for him, if possible.
>
> A last resort is to format and start over, after the new computer is
> running smoothly.  I haven't been willing to shut down for the length of
> time required to reinstall the OS and partition the drives, and I haven't
> had a place to put the data anyway.  I can't think of anything else right
> now that might give you hints of what may be the problem.

Starting over from scratch may be a good idea as your acquaintance may get 
confused by all the different partitions and could probably use the continuous 
space.  But spend a couple of days trying to figure out what you want to back 
up.  Still, we can see if we can get this working.

> I could send you a screenprint of the drive layout, but it takes too much
> space to put on the list; I would have to direct it to your email address.
> Thank you for your willingness to try to solve the problem.  I really want
> to help this guy.
>
> Steven

If you're referring to the contents of fstab, I don't think that would take 
too much space and if it might benefit someone else, it could be useful on the 
list.  But, feel free to use my email address if you'd like.



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  3 05:24:27 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:24:27 -0600
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901022318.20833.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030005.55165.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901022318.20833.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901022324.28095.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

Oh, and it might be useful to run fsck on the partition anyway to see if there 
are bad sectors on the disk.  If so, they can be marked as bad when you start 
from scratch so the OS knows not to use them.

I wrote a reply suggesting we look at fstab and then maybe run fsck on the 
partition, but I'm not sure it went through.



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 05:25:48 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:25:48 -0500
Subject: When I open my computer,
	the 'active window bar' at the top of a window does not install.
In-Reply-To: <200901022256.05318.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <200901021658.52363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901022248.02669.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901022256.05318.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901030025.48247.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> suggested.  Do alt+F2 and type in kcontrol.  Then click on "KDE
> Components", then "Session Manager".  Make sure the dropdown menu where it
> says "Window Manager" says "Kwin".  If needed, log out and back in to see
> if it worked.
I have that window open right now; the only problem is that I don't see an 
entry for window manager.  I am using Kubuntu Hardy KDE3.5.10.  Under Session 
Manager here is what I see:
General
I have checked: Confirm logout
I have checked: Offer shutdown options
On Login
I have selected: Restore previous session
Not selected:     Restore manually saved session
Not selected:     Start with an empty session
Default Shutdown Option
I have selected: End current session
Not selected:     Turn off computer
Not selected:     Restart computer
Advanced
Applications to be exclude from sessions:
Nothing is entered.

Buttons at bottom are Help and Defaults.  That is all on the Session Manager 
page.


> To be honest, it sounds like startkde is corrupted somehow.  
That sounds like a reasonable conclusion.  I was unable to find kwin in the 
package manager; is that what I need?  Is there code that could instruct the 
repair of startkde?
> Make a new user and log in to KDE.
I am going to try this part of help then return if it fails.  Thanks a lot for 
the help.
Steven 



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 05:43:56 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:43:56 -0500
Subject: When I open my computer,
	the 'active window bar' at the top of a window does not install.
In-Reply-To: <200901022256.05318.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <200901021658.52363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901022248.02669.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901022256.05318.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901030043.56637.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> To be honest, it sounds like startkde is corrupted somehow.  Make a new
> user and log in to KDE.  Does it have the same problem?
As far as the Titlebar is concerned, the other User does not have the same 
problem.  I checked the problem in partitioning and it remains a problem for 
the other user.
> If so, you might want to manually force a reinstall of some KDE packages.
I like the sound of it, but don't have the foggiest idea how to do that.  I am 
not experienced in using the Konsole and code.
> If not, try  log out of KDE, go to a virtual terminal
I neither know how to make a virtual terminal nor how to use it.  I would love 
it, but I am slow to learn the more critical beginning stuff, and haven't 
taken time to learn how to do that.  Reading ahead, I think I need help on 
what I have done before I continue.  Thanks so much for the help.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 05:57:54 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:57:54 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901022324.28095.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901022318.20833.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<200901022324.28095.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901030057.54541.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Saturday 03 January 2009 12:24:27 am Constantinos Maltezos wrote:
> Oh, and it might be useful to run fsck on the partition anyway to see if
> there are bad sectors on the disk.  If so, they can be marked as bad when
> you start from scratch so the OS knows not to use them.
>
> I wrote a reply suggesting we look at fstab and then maybe run fsck on the
> partition, but I'm not sure it went through.

To run fsck on the partition do I, using the konsole, type in: sudo 
fsck /media/sdb5?  Or /dev/sdb5?  

Steven



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  3 06:20:27 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:20:27 -0600
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030057.54541.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901022324.28095.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<200901030057.54541.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901030020.28934.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Friday 02 January 2009 11:57:54 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Saturday 03 January 2009 12:24:27 am Constantinos Maltezos wrote:
> > Oh, and it might be useful to run fsck on the partition anyway to see if
> > there are bad sectors on the disk.  If so, they can be marked as bad when
> > you start from scratch so the OS knows not to use them.
> >
> > I wrote a reply suggesting we look at fstab and then maybe run fsck on
> > the partition, but I'm not sure it went through.
>
> To run fsck on the partition do I, using the konsole, type in: sudo
> fsck /media/sdb5?  Or /dev/sdb5?
>
> Steven

The umounted device.  I'll give you the steps below so you can just enter the 
commands in:

sudo umount /media/sdb5
sudo fsck -c /dev/sdb5

That should do it.  fsck may ask as it goes along if you want to fix some 
error or other, you should be fine answering "Yes" to all of them, but if it 
looks suspicious to you, answer "N" and copy the error in an email to me and 
I'll tell you if it needs to be fixed or not.



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  3 06:27:21 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:27:21 -0600
Subject: When I open my computer,
	the 'active window bar' at the top of a window does not install.
In-Reply-To: <200901030043.56637.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901021658.52363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901022256.05318.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<200901030043.56637.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901030027.23208.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Friday 02 January 2009 11:43:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> > If so, you might want to manually force a reinstall of some KDE packages.
>
> I like the sound of it, but don't have the foggiest idea how to do that.  I
> am not experienced in using the Konsole and code.

But if it works for another user, we don't need to reinstall anything.  It's a 
setting in your home folder, so...

> > If not, try  log out of KDE, go to a virtual terminal
>
> I neither know how to make a virtual terminal nor how to use it.  I would
> love it, but I am slow to learn the more critical beginning stuff, and
> haven't taken time to learn how to do that.  Reading ahead, I think I need
> help on what I have done before I continue.  Thanks so much for the help.

First of all, a virtual terminal is a full-screen, text-mode interface - like 
DOS was, if you're familiar with that.  They're available at any time by 
pressing ctrl+alt+F? where F? is the buttons F1 through F6.  You can switch to 
those and then back to the GUI with ctrl+alt+F7.  In fact, when you start new 
sessions without closing the first instance, they start at ctrl+alt+F8 and go 
upward with each session.

In any case, I'll send you a personal email with step by step instructions to 
see if we can get this thing working.



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 07:22:02 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 02:22:02 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030020.28934.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030057.54541.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030020.28934.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901030222.02596.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Saturday 03 January 2009 1:20:27 am Constantinos Maltezos wrote:
> sudo fsck -c /dev/sda1
I mounted /media/sda1 using Disk&Filesystems, it said it was mounted, however, 
below it says not found.  ??
umount: /media/sda1: not mounted
steven at Studio25:~$ sudo umount /media/sda1
umount: /media/sda1: not found
steven at Studio25:~$ sudo fsck -c /dev/sda1
fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
e2fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
/dev/sda1 is mounted.

WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
SEVERE filesystem damage.

I stopped because of this.  What does it mean?

Do you really want to continue (y/n)? no

check aborted.
steven at Studio25:~$






From kassube at gmx.net  Sat Jan  3 07:52:32 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:52:32 +0100
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030222.02596.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030020.28934.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<200901030222.02596.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901030852.32484.kassube@gmx.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Saturday 03 January 2009 1:20:27 am Constantinos Maltezos wrote:
> > sudo fsck -c /dev/sda1
>
> I mounted /media/sda1 using Disk&Filesystems, it said it was mounted,

Didn't you talk about sdb5 previously?

> however, below it says not found.  ??
> umount: /media/sda1: not mounted
> steven at Studio25:~$ sudo umount /media/sda1
> umount: /media/sda1: not found

Well, sda1 isn't mounted at /media/sda1 but maybe at / or somewhere else.

> steven at Studio25:~$ sudo fsck -c /dev/sda1

Now THAT was a big mistake, IMHO. Not that you damaged something in this 
case but generally if you follow instructons you should not blindly 
continue if there was an error. Next time you might really damage 
something.

Constantinos' instructions were this:

sudo umount /media/sdb5
sudo fsck -c /dev/sdb5

If the instructions are already made for your particular situation it is 
easiest to just copy one line at a time from the email and paste it to 
your konsole window to avoid typos or other errors. And if you encounter 
errors and don't KNOW it is harmless, please ask again before you 
continue.


Nils



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 08:08:03 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 03:08:03 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030852.32484.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030222.02596.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030852.32484.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901030308.03932.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Now THAT was a big mistake, IMHO. Not that you damaged something in this
> case but generally if you follow instructons you should not blindly
> continue if there was an error. Next time you might really damage
> something.
I am sure it was.  Before this List I was always experimental.  I did not have 
any knowledge and also no help.  I never knew what I was doing.  As a result 
I had to reinstall a lot.  Nonetheless, I really appreciate the warning.  It 
will register.  I never knew when to be concerned before.  Thanks my friend.

Because I never had anyone to help me, and because the other forums probably 
could not understand my needs, due to my inability to word my needs, I might 
wait a month before someone would respond.  Without a computer that long 
drove me crazy, so I always gambled.  It gave me a lot of experience 
formatting and installing and the then struggle of reconfiguration, which is 
a lot easier now.  I know I keep saying it, but Nils, I really appreciate 
your help.  You are incredible.

Steven




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 08:19:03 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 03:19:03 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030852.32484.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030222.02596.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030852.32484.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Well, sda1 isn't mounted at /media/sda1 but maybe at / or somewhere else.
I just opened Disk&Filesystems again.  It said the mount point for sda1 
is /media.  It sure will be great when I can use the konsole.  I am anxious.  
The GUI must be lying.

Steven



From jonorland at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 08:31:54 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 09:31:54 +0100
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030222.02596.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030852.32484.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/3 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
>
>> Well, sda1 isn't mounted at /media/sda1 but maybe at / or somewhere else.
> I just opened Disk&Filesystems again.  It said the mount point for sda1
> is /media.  It sure will be great when I can use the konsole.  I am anxious.
> The GUI must be lying.
>
> Steven
>

The best for us would be if you could paste the output from this
commands "cat /etc/fstab" and "sudo fdisk -l". Write or copy and paste
 them in konsole without the quotes. That way we can see what hard
drives and partitions you got and where they get mounted.

/ Jonas



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 08:41:18 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:41:18 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030222.02596.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030852.32484.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00901030041v70352bd7v8cdaa99b34b77365@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/3 Jonas Norlander <jonorland at gmail.com>:
> The best for us would be if you could paste the output from this
> commands "cat /etc/fstab" and "sudo fdisk -l". Write or copy and paste
>  them in konsole without the quotes. That way we can see what hard
> drives and partitions you got and where they get mounted.
>
> / Jonas
>

Additionally, I would like to see the output of the mount command both
before and after you mount sda5.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 08:47:38 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 03:47:38 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Saturday 03 January 2009 3:31:54 am Jonas Norlander wrote:
> cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=2795cc01-0df3-4b4d-b46c-0adf8156e4aa / ext3 
nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# /dev/sda1
# /dev/sda5
UUID=bddaaee3-408a-4f69-a9bf-b9c47af61b7e /media/sda5 ext3 
nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
# /dev/sda7
UUID=e8dac51b-91a9-43ab-9d75-cb4d6af8efa3 /media/sda7 ext3 
nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
# /dev/sda8
# /dev/sda6
UUID=8bb9d04a-5d6e-45bf-9753-cfb6f585b2f3 none swap sw 0 0
# /dev/sdb2
UUID=09850bc0-ac07-4f45-bb39-1eba22243e4d none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5 ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/sda1 /media ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
steven at Studio25:~$                                            


steven at Studio25:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for steven:

Disk /dev/sda: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24792 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x47a447a3

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1        1824    14651248+  83  Linux
/dev/sda2            1825       24792   184490460    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5           16523       24792    66428775   83  Linux
/dev/sda6            1825        2006     1461852   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7            2007       16522   116599738+  83  Linux

Partition table entries are not in disk order

Disk /dev/sdb: 81.9 GB, 81964302336 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9964 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xffffffff

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1               1        2591    20812176   83  Linux
/dev/sdb2            2592        2856     2128612+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb3            2857        9964    57095010    5  Extended
/dev/sdb5            2857        9964    57094978+  83  Linux
steven at Studio25:~$ 

This sure is fun.

Steven

                              



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 08:57:27 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 03:57:27 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901030357.27976.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

"cat /etc/fstab" and "sudo fdisk -l"

I just reviewed the results of the two konsole entries.  They looked like I 
thought they should.  I don't understand what is wrong.

I remember that Kubuntu forced the location of installation for the active 
primary.  As I recall, I wanted it to be located in sda1.  I formatted sda1 
using ext3 and made it primary in preparation for the other OS installation.  
I was not allowed to make the installation and could never figure out why.  
Perhaps you can see what is not in the proper order.

Steven



From kassube at gmx.net  Sat Jan  3 08:58:29 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 09:58:29 +0100
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030852.32484.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901030958.29221.kassube@gmx.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> > Well, sda1 isn't mounted at /media/sda1 but maybe at / or somewhere
> > else.
>
> I just opened Disk&Filesystems again.  It said the mount point for sda1
> is /media.  It sure will be great when I can use the konsole.  I am
> anxious. The GUI must be lying.

Try the command

mount

and you should see if and where your partitions are really mounted.


Nils



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 09:01:19 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 04:01:19 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901030401.19998.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

> cat /etc/fstab

I did not log into root, however, it looks like I am there.

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=2795cc01-0df3-4b4d-b46c-0adf8156e4aa / ext3 
nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
# /dev/sda1
# /dev/sda5
UUID=bddaaee3-408a-4f69-a9bf-b9c47af61b7e /media/sda5 ext3 
nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
# /dev/sda7
UUID=e8dac51b-91a9-43ab-9d75-cb4d6af8efa3 /media/sda7 ext3 
nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
# /dev/sda8
# /dev/sda6
UUID=8bb9d04a-5d6e-45bf-9753-cfb6f585b2f3 none swap sw 0 0
# /dev/sdb2
UUID=09850bc0-ac07-4f45-bb39-1eba22243e4d none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
/dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5 ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
/dev/sda1 /media ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
steven at Studio25:~$

Steven
                                                  




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 09:17:51 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 04:17:51 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030958.29221.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030958.29221.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901030417.51995.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> and you should see if and where your partitions are really mounted.
Am I that dense, Nils, it looks to me like it is on /media.
steven at Studio25:~$ mount
/dev/sdb1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.24-22-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/sda5 on /media/sda5 type ext3 (rw)
/dev/sda7 on /media/sda7 type ext3 (rw)
securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc 
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/sda1 on /media type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
steven at Studio25:~$

What do these entries mean?
(noexec,nosuid,nodev)

Steven



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  3 09:29:19 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 03:29:19 -0600
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030222.02596.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030020.28934.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<200901030222.02596.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901030329.21548.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Saturday 03 January 2009 1:22:02 am Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Saturday 03 January 2009 1:20:27 am Constantinos Maltezos wrote:
> > sudo fsck -c /dev/sda1

I'm a big dummy.  In those instructions, replace sda1 with sdb5.



From kassube at gmx.net  Sat Jan  3 10:56:03 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 11:56:03 +0100
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030417.51995.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030958.29221.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901030417.51995.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901031156.03200.kassube@gmx.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> > and you should see if and where your partitions are really mounted.
>
> Am I that dense, Nils, it looks to me like it is on /media.
> steven at Studio25:~$ mount
> /dev/sdb1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[...]
> /dev/sda1 on /media type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)

Yes, sda1 is at /media for some unknown reason. I don't think that is a 
useful mount point, but that's another story.

> What do these entries mean?
> (noexec,nosuid,nodev)

The noexec flag means that programs on that partition may not be executed.
The nosuid flag means that the SUID bit is ignored.
The nodev flag means that device entries on that partition are not handled 
as special device files.

All of these flags are set to enhance security at least to some degree.


Nils



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 11:19:11 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:19:11 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901031156.03200.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030958.29221.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901030417.51995.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901031156.03200.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901030319y5f95c088y5ef6fad8ac112237@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/3 Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net>:
> Yes, sda1 is at /media for some unknown reason. I don't think that is a
> useful mount point, but that's another story.
>

That is because it is not /. sdb1 is /, not sda1. I think that this is
the source of most confusion. Furthermore, sdb5 has the noauto option
set, which is why it is not automatically mounting.

Stephen, change this line in fstab:
/dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5 ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0

To this (all on one line, if it breaks in email):
/dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5 ext3 owner,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0

Now reboot and check if sdb5 is mounted automatically.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 11:23:43 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:23:43 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901030319y5f95c088y5ef6fad8ac112237@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030958.29221.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901030417.51995.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901031156.03200.kassube@gmx.net>
	<880dece00901030319y5f95c088y5ef6fad8ac112237@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00901030323j684b3480mbe64f42a93c74a28@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/3 Dotan Cohen <dotancohen at gmail.com>:

Better yet, make it this:
/dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5 ext3 user,atime,auto,rw,exec 0 0

I did not want to change the security aspects of the configuration,
but this _is_ a single-user desktop machine. Now reboot and check if
sdb5 is mounted automatically.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 11:46:16 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 06:46:16 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901031156.03200.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030417.51995.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901031156.03200.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901030646.16789.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> > What do these entries mean?
> > (noexec,nosuid,nodev)
>
> The noexec flag means that programs on that partition may not be executed.
> The nosuid flag means that the SUID bit is ignored.
> The nodev flag means that device entries on that partition are not handled
> as special device files.
>
> All of these flags are set to enhance security at least to some degree.

Are they the reason I was blocked out?

Steven




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 11:54:39 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 06:54:39 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901030319y5f95c088y5ef6fad8ac112237@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901031156.03200.kassube@gmx.net>
	<880dece00901030319y5f95c088y5ef6fad8ac112237@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901030654.39798.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I am having so much fun right now, I can hardly sit still.  This was a fun 
exercise.
> Stephen, change this line in fstab:
This makes me a little nervous.  Do I look for a line that is similar?  Do I 
have to delete anything.  How will I know where to put this line?  Do I enter 
it at the end of what is showing?  It is hard to type, I am still laughing 
with joy.  You guys are so great.  You have put smiles into my drab life.
> /dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5 ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
>
> To this (all on one line, if it breaks in email):
> /dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5 ext3 owner,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
Do  I  put this on the next line, after I put in the one you instructed?

It sure don't take much to make me happy; I am still laughing.

I am going to wait for an answer before I proceed.  Thanks friend.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 11:56:35 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 06:56:35 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901030323j684b3480mbe64f42a93c74a28@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030319y5f95c088y5ef6fad8ac112237@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00901030323j684b3480mbe64f42a93c74a28@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901030656.35090.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Saturday 03 January 2009 06:23:43 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/3 Dotan Cohen <dotancohen at gmail.com>:
>
> Better yet, make it this:
> /dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5 ext3 user,atime,auto,rw,exec 0 0
This instead of what?  I hope my denseness isn't taking the joy out of your 
part of the fix.

Thanks friend,

Steven



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 12:05:43 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:05:43 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030646.16789.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030417.51995.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901031156.03200.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901030646.16789.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901030405r5f774dc9u1f717993be6861b5@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/3 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
>> All of these flags are set to enhance security at least to some degree.
>
> Are they the reason I was blocked out?
>

The noauto flag was the reason that the partition was not
automatically being mounted.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From kassube at gmx.net  Sat Jan  3 12:06:28 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:06:28 +0100
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030646.16789.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901031156.03200.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901030646.16789.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901031306.28823.kassube@gmx.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> > > What do these entries mean?
> > > (noexec,nosuid,nodev)
> >
> > The noexec flag means that programs on that partition may not be
> > executed. The nosuid flag means that the SUID bit is ignored.
> > The nodev flag means that device entries on that partition are not
> > handled as special device files.
> >
> > All of these flags are set to enhance security at least to some
> > degree.
>
> Are they the reason I was blocked out?

No, they don't block access of a partition but determine the handling of 
particular files.


Nils



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 12:07:40 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:07:40 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030656.35090.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030319y5f95c088y5ef6fad8ac112237@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00901030323j684b3480mbe64f42a93c74a28@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901030656.35090.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901030407v67775124tedddcc46e2cceb8@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/3 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> On Saturday 03 January 2009 06:23:43 Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> 2009/1/3 Dotan Cohen <dotancohen at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Better yet, make it this:
>> /dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5 ext3 user,atime,auto,rw,exec 0 0
> This instead of what?  I hope my denseness isn't taking the joy out of your
> part of the fix.
>

Instead of the line that starts with "/dev/sdb5". Just erase that
entire line and put what I wrote instead.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 12:24:28 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 07:24:28 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901030405r5f774dc9u1f717993be6861b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030646.16789.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030405r5f774dc9u1f717993be6861b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901030724.28552.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> > Are they the reason I was blocked out?
What I meant by this, is sdb5 says 'Access Denied', while the subfolder can 
hold data.

Steven



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 12:32:00 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:32:00 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030724.28552.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030646.16789.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030405r5f774dc9u1f717993be6861b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901030724.28552.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901030432o54f48110tce43aa71a2aab003@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/3 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> What I meant by this, is sdb5 says 'Access Denied', while the subfolder can
> hold data.
>

Once we get the partion automounting, if that problem persists we will
handle it separately. I prefer to do that from the CLI, not from
nautilus, so that we can _really_ see what is happening without some
abstraction between our commands and the output.

Does the partition automatically mount now that you have switched
"noauto" to "auto"?

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 13:03:55 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:03:55 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901030323j684b3480mbe64f42a93c74a28@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030319y5f95c088y5ef6fad8ac112237@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00901030323j684b3480mbe64f42a93c74a28@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901030803.55577.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Saturday 03 January 2009 06:23:43 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> user,atime,auto,rw,exec 0 0
I located /fstab in the /etc folder in /root, and opened it.  When I entered 
the data, it said denied. 

I opened a root terminal, entered my password and attempted to open 
the /etc/fstab folder and was Permission Denied.  So, how do I make the 
change?

Thanks!
Steven





From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 13:08:20 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:08:20 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030803.55577.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030319y5f95c088y5ef6fad8ac112237@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00901030323j684b3480mbe64f42a93c74a28@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901030803.55577.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901030508m5b0d06a2p8debfca7b4d91000@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/3 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> On Saturday 03 January 2009 06:23:43 Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> user,atime,auto,rw,exec 0 0
> I located /fstab in the /etc folder in /root, and opened it.  When I entered
> the data, it said denied.
>
> I opened a root terminal, entered my password and attempted to open
> the /etc/fstab folder and was Permission Denied.  So, how do I make the
> change?
>

$ sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bk
$ sudo gedit /etc/fstab

The first command just makes a backup. If the second command does not
open gedit such that you can edit fstab, then post the terminal
output. Thanks.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 13:19:43 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:19:43 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901030508m5b0d06a2p8debfca7b4d91000@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030803.55577.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030508m5b0d06a2p8debfca7b4d91000@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901030819.43640.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
steven at Studio25:~$ sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bk
[sudo] password for steven:
steven at Studio25:~$ sudo gedit /etc/fstab
sudo: gedit: command not found
steven at Studio25:~$ sudo gedit /etc/fstab
sudo: gedit: command not found
steven at Studio25:~$

What do I change?

The news makes your area sound like a war zone.  Are you and your family safe?  
I will keep you in my prayers.

Steven






From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 13:29:15 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:29:15 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030819.43640.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030803.55577.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030508m5b0d06a2p8debfca7b4d91000@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901030819.43640.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901030529s196995cfncd560ff7bbd94f38@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/3 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
>> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
> steven at Studio25:~$ sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bk
> [sudo] password for steven:
> steven at Studio25:~$ sudo gedit /etc/fstab
> sudo: gedit: command not found
> steven at Studio25:~$ sudo gedit /etc/fstab
> sudo: gedit: command not found
> steven at Studio25:~$
>
> What do I change?
>

"gedit" is a text editor, I thought that it was installed in all
Ubuntu installations. Try kedit instead if you use KDE (er, I think
that I remember that you do!)

$ sudo kedit /etc/fstab

> The news makes your area sound like a war zone.  Are you and your family safe?
> I will keep you in my prayers.
>

It is for the people of Gaza that we both should pray. They are ruled
by an organization that prefers to invest in rocket fuel for killing
than in food for their citizens. When Hamas is toppled both the people
of Israel and the people of Gaza will rejoice. Until then, we both
suffer.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 13:44:45 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:44:45 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
Message-ID: <200901030844.45737.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

2009/1/3 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
>> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
> steven at Studio25:~$ sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bk
> [sudo] password for steven:
> steven at Studio25:~$ sudo gedit /etc/fstab
> sudo: gedit: command not found
> steven at Studio25:~$ sudo gedit /etc/fstab
> sudo: gedit: command not found
> steven at Studio25:~$
>
> What do I change?
>

"gedit" is a text editor, I thought that it was installed in all
Ubuntu installations. Try kedit instead if you use KDE (er, I think
that I remember that you do!)

$ sudo kedit /etc/fstab

> The news makes your area sound like a war zone.  Are you and your family 
safe?
> I will keep you in my prayers.
>

It is for the people of Gaza that we both should pray. They are ruled
by an organization that prefers to invest in rocket fuel for killing
than in food for their citizens. When Hamas is toppled both the people
of Israel and the people of Gaza will rejoice. Until then, we both
suffer.

If it is not too much trouble, please keep me informed with truth.  I do not 
trust our media, and I want my prayers accurate.  I still worry for you and 
yours my friend.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 13:52:09 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:52:09 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030844.45737.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901030844.45737.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901030552q2428fc8bs3dac83a0dae7625f@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/3 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> If it is not too much trouble, please keep me informed with truth.  I do not
> trust our media, and I want my prayers accurate.  I still worry for you and
> yours my friend.
>

Off-list, Stephen.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
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ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 13:57:01 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:57:01 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901030508m5b0d06a2p8debfca7b4d91000@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030803.55577.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030508m5b0d06a2p8debfca7b4d91000@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901030857.02334.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

> $ sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bk
> $ sudo gedit /etc/fstab
Since I use KDE, I changed gedit to kedit after installing the package.  Then 
I edited the changes you suggested, and as you expected, sda5 remained 
enabled.  Although I can use the subfolder, I still cannot use sdb5 for 
storage.  I wonder why?

Thanks and Shalom, Dotan,

Steven



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 14:25:12 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:25:12 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030857.02334.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030803.55577.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030508m5b0d06a2p8debfca7b4d91000@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901030857.02334.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901030625v4d3ba416o869c5d9cd1e68842@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/3 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
>> $ sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bk
>> $ sudo gedit /etc/fstab
> Since I use KDE, I changed gedit to kedit after installing the package.  Then
> I edited the changes you suggested, and as you expected, sda5 remained
> enabled.  Although I can use the subfolder, I still cannot use sdb5 for
> storage.  I wonder why?
>

Now reset the computer, and check to see if sdb5 is mounted automatically.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan  3 14:49:48 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 09:49:48 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901030625v4d3ba416o869c5d9cd1e68842@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030857.02334.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030625v4d3ba416o869c5d9cd1e68842@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901030949.48359.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

> Now reset the computer, and check to see if sdb5 is mounted automatically.

Yes it is mounted automatically, Thank You!  Nonetheless, sdb5 is still 
functionless excepting the subfolder that works.

Steven



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 14:58:03 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:58:03 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030949.48359.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030857.02334.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030625v4d3ba416o869c5d9cd1e68842@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901030949.48359.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901030658k4083fd54q63dd48f50d8ec99c@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/3 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
>> Now reset the computer, and check to see if sdb5 is mounted automatically.
>
> Yes it is mounted automatically, Thank You!  Nonetheless, sdb5 is still
> functionless excepting the subfolder that works.
>
> Steven
>

Excellent. Now, lets see what is in there:

$ cd /media/sdb5
$ ls -l
$ sudo cd /media/sdb5
$ sudo ls -l

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Sat Jan  3 17:59:01 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:59:01 +0100
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active 
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I have posted this problem many times.  Someone made suggestions of how to 
> create a subfolder in sdb5 that would work, however, I have to activate sdb5 
> every time I bootup.  And then, only the subfolder is functional.  Would 
> anyone like to take a crack at this ongoing problem.  Thanks!
> 
> Steven
> 

Hi Steven,

this might look to be complicated, but I sincerely believe this approach 
will work out, not only with your harddisk, but with anything else.

Go to:
http://www.webmin.com/download.html

= Download the deb for ubuntu and...
= Install it by clicking on it
= login with you browser to https://localhost:10000
= go to "system/disk and network filesystem"
= click on your disk
= adjust accordingly

kind regards and happy new year

Eberhard




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan  3 18:10:04 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 20:10:04 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/3 Eberhard Roloff <tuxebi at gmx.de>:
> this might look to be complicated, but I sincerely believe this approach
> will work out, not only with your harddisk, but with anything else.
>
> Go to:
> http://www.webmin.com/download.html
>
> = Download the deb for ubuntu and...
> = Install it by clicking on it
> = login with you browser to https://localhost:10000
> = go to "system/disk and network filesystem"
> = click on your disk
> = adjust accordingly
>
> kind regards and happy new year
>

I think that so long as we can help Stephen configure his system the
correct way, that would be preferable. I personally do not like
applications that work black magic behind the scenes, and may alter
his configuration in a way that would be difficult or impossible to
undo.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From dgvirtual at akl.lt  Sat Jan  3 21:08:31 2009
From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 23:08:31 +0200
Subject: re prepaid wireless broadband usb stick
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W6D47DF4FA0F4D353B7CD8CDE60@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W6D47DF4FA0F4D353B7CD8CDE60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <495FD3CF.7000502@akl.lt>

I would guess it should be pretty much the same as using other
pcmcia/expresscard or usb modems - it should not depend much on the type
of the connection plan.

The difference may be that usb modems sometimes report themselves as usb
mass storage devices first and then can be switched to modem mode. There
 is a small utility for that developed. Then you have to get the modem
device name (something like /dev/ttyUSB0, you can use dmesg to get it)
and configure kppp or another utility to actually use the modem to
connect your computer to the internet.

The link below tells how to configure it all...
http://jan.saell.org/blog/archives/23

You can google for other descriptions of how to do it as well.

Donatas

Ray Burke rašė:
>  Any one out there know of
> 
> How to configure a prepaid  wireless broadband usb stick so as to
> use on my dualboot xp pro and Kubuntu??????
> 
> ray
> 
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From nadreck at palain.com  Sat Jan  3 23:52:00 2009
From: nadreck at palain.com (Kevin B. O'Brien)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:52:00 -0500
Subject: khelpcenter not working?
Message-ID: <495FFA20.1030700@palain.com>

I ran into a problem using KPar2, and decided to try the documentation. 
But when I tried to open the manual, I got an error that it "could not 
find service 'khelpcenter'."

I opened Adept, and it had two things listed: khelpcenter4, and 
khelpcenter. Only khelpcenter4 was installed, so I installed 
khelpcenter. Well, that seemed to make no difference. What should I try 
next?

Thank you

-- 
Kevin B. O'Brien         TANSTAAFL
nadreck at palain.com      Linux User #333216

"Who does the president of the U.S. think he is? You can't just tell a 
duly elected leader of a foreign country to step down and get out." Pat 
Robertson on Liberia



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan  4 00:45:16 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:45:16 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901030432o54f48110tce43aa71a2aab003@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901030646.16789.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901030405r5f774dc9u1f717993be6861b5@mail.gmail.com>	<200901030724.28552.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030432o54f48110tce43aa71a2aab003@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4960069C.6010408@sbcglobal.net>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/3 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
>   
>> What I meant by this, is sdb5 says 'Access Denied', while the subfolder can
>> hold data.
>>
>>     
>
> Once we get the partion automounting, if that problem persists we will
> handle it separately. I prefer to do that from the CLI, not from
> nautilus, so that we can _really_ see what is happening without some
> abstraction between our commands and the output.
>
> Does the partition automatically mount now that you have switched
> "noauto" to "auto"?
>
>   
Yes my friend.  Thanks.  It makes me so happy.  That problem has been 
with me for a long time.

Is there any way you could send me the emails with the code in them.  I 
lost all my email records when the cure occurred.  I would like to save 
that one, in case I may be able to help someone else.  If you no longer 
have them, that's OK, I didn't realize the cure would cause that loss.  
Some day maybe I will think 360 degrees and stop the tragic losses.  
Perhaps the cure is archived and I can retrieve it.

You are the best, my friend.  I thought that was a problem that did not 
have a Konqueror.  I was so happy, I laughed off and on for hours; a day 
later, I am still smiling.

Cudos my freind,
Steven






From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan  4 00:52:16 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:52:16 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901030658k4083fd54q63dd48f50d8ec99c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901030857.02334.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901030625v4d3ba416o869c5d9cd1e68842@mail.gmail.com>	<200901030949.48359.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030658k4083fd54q63dd48f50d8ec99c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49600840.7000605@sbcglobal.net>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Excellent. Now, lets see what is in there:
>
> $ cd /media/sdb5
> $ ls -l
> $ sudo cd /media/sdb5
> $ sudo ls -l
>
>   
How does the highlighted differ from the entry two above?

steven at Studio25:~$ cd /media/sdb5
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5$ ls -l
total 20
drwx------ 2 root   root 16384 2008-10-12 15:16 lost+found
drwxr-xr-x 4 steven root  4096 2008-12-28 02:56 steven
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5$ sudo cd /media/sdb5
[sudo] password for steven:
sudo: cd: command not found
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5$ sudo ls -l
total 20
drwx------ 2 root   root 16384 2008-10-12 15:16 lost+found
drwxr-xr-x 4 steven root  4096 2008-12-28 02:56 steven
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5$

Thanks little brother,

Steven

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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan  4 01:47:11 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:47:11 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active 
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4960151F.4040005@sbcglobal.net>

Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>   
>> I have posted this problem many times.  Someone made suggestions of how to 
>> create a subfolder in sdb5 that would work, however, I have to activate sdb5 
>> every time I bootup.  And then, only the subfolder is functional.  Would 
>> anyone like to take a crack at this ongoing problem.  Thanks!
>>
>> Steven
>>
>>     
>
> Hi Steven,
>
> this might look to be complicated, but I sincerely believe this approach 
> will work out, not only with your harddisk, but with anything else.
>
> Go to:
> http://www.webmin.com/download.html
>
> = Download the deb for ubuntu and...
> = Install it by clicking on it
> = login with you browser to https://localhost:10000
> = go to "system/disk and network filesystem"
> = click on your disk
> = adjust accordingly
>
> kind regards and happy new year
>
> Eberhard
>
>
>   
Good to hear your voice again my friend.  I have not forgotten you, but 
I still haven't gotten the return of a defective power supply, so my new 
computer sits on a workbench waiting to complete.

Eberhard, I am in the middle of a project with another helper on List 
who is taking time to work through this problem.  He has already 
provided a fix for another long-standing problem.  I could not offend 
him in the middle of his work, by using someone else's solution.  I hope 
that does not offend you, or make you want to keep from helping me in 
the future.  His help of me is almost like working on a chat program, 
his answers and instruction come so fast.  I am going to save this email 
as a backup.  I hope you understand, my friend.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan  4 01:51:48 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:51:48 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49601634.60106@sbcglobal.net>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/3 Eberhard Roloff <tuxebi at gmx.de>:
>   
>> this might look to be complicated, but I sincerely believe this approach
>> will work out, not only with your harddisk, but with anything else.
>>
>> Go to:
>> http://www.webmin.com/download.html
>>
>> = Download the deb for ubuntu and...
>> = Install it by clicking on it
>> = login with you browser to https://localhost:10000
>> = go to "system/disk and network filesystem"
>> = click on your disk
>> = adjust accordingly
>>
>> kind regards and happy new year
>>
>>     
>
> I think that so long as we can help Stephen configure his system the
> correct way, that would be preferable. I personally do not like
> applications that work black magic behind the scenes, and may alter
> his configuration in a way that would be difficult or impossible to
> undo.
>
>   
Eberhard just gave me the same instruction.  I am in a strange 
position.  I care for you all and do not want to offend, however, I am 
in the middle of a fix that is being provided by a kind and skillful 
technician.  He solved the problem I was having where sdb5 had to be 
made active every time I opened my computer.  I am so protective of my 
relationship with all of you, as I am with the person who is currently 
working the problem.  I will save the solutions for review after the 
partition is repaired.  He seems to have the same goal in mind.  Thanks 
to all.

Steven




From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan  4 02:20:41 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:20:41 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901030529s196995cfncd560ff7bbd94f38@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901030803.55577.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901030508m5b0d06a2p8debfca7b4d91000@mail.gmail.com>	<200901030819.43640.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030529s196995cfncd560ff7bbd94f38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49601CF9.7090208@gatech.edu>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> "gedit" is a text editor, I thought that it was installed in all
> Ubuntu installations.

It is, but this is the Kubuntu list. :)

 Try kedit instead if you use KDE (er, I think
> that I remember that you do!)
> 
> $ sudo kedit /etc/fstab

Actually, it's called kate:

sudo kate /etc/fstab

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan  4 02:23:28 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:23:28 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it
	stay	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <49601CF9.7090208@gatech.edu>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901030803.55577.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901030508m5b0d06a2p8debfca7b4d91000@mail.gmail.com>	<200901030819.43640.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901030529s196995cfncd560ff7bbd94f38@mail.gmail.com>
	<49601CF9.7090208@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <49601DA0.9020707@gatech.edu>

Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> "gedit" is a text editor, I thought that it was installed in all
>> Ubuntu installations.
> 
> It is, but this is the Kubuntu list. :)
> 
>  Try kedit instead if you use KDE (er, I think
>> that I remember that you do!)
>>
>> $ sudo kedit /etc/fstab
> 
> Actually, it's called kate:
> 
> sudo kate /etc/fstab

Sorry.  Apparently there is a kedit as well.  But kedit is only required
by kdeutils and such, while kate is required by kdebase, and thus more
likely to be installed.

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan  4 02:25:07 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:25:07 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901030658k4083fd54q63dd48f50d8ec99c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901030857.02334.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901030625v4d3ba416o869c5d9cd1e68842@mail.gmail.com>	<200901030949.48359.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030658k4083fd54q63dd48f50d8ec99c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49601E03.80309@gatech.edu>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> $ sudo cd /media/sdb5
> $ sudo ls -l

That won't work.  Try:

sudo -i
cd /media/sd5
ls -l
exit

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan  4 02:29:01 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:29:01 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active 
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <49601EED.9010709@gatech.edu>

Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> = Download the deb for ubuntu and...
> = Install it by clicking on it
> = login with you browser to https://localhost:10000
> = go to "system/disk and network filesystem"
> = click on your disk
> = adjust accordingly

There's nothing wrong with webmin if it's configured securely.  But it's
 always harder to give GUI directions then command-line ones.

Matt Flaschen




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan  4 05:00:14 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:00:14 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4960425E.3050105@sbcglobal.net>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/3 Eberhard Roloff <tuxebi at gmx.de>:
>   
>> this might look to be complicated, but I sincerely believe this approach
>> will work out, not only with your harddisk, but with anything else.
>>
>> Go to:
>> http://www.webmin.com/download.html
>>
>> = Download the deb for ubuntu and...
>> = Install it by clicking on it
>> = login with you browser to https://localhost:10000
>> = go to "system/disk and network filesystem"
>> = click on your disk
>> = adjust accordingly
>>
>> kind regards and happy new year
>>
>>     
>
> I think that so long as we can help Stephen configure his system the
> correct way, that would be preferable. I personally do not like
> applications that work black magic behind the scenes, and may alter
> his configuration in a way that would be difficult or impossible to
> undo.
>
>   
I am a little mixed up.  There are several posts and lots of 
differences.  I am a little confused.  Anyway above it says to download 
the deb or ubuntu and...
Am I supposed to download another Hardy distribution?  What does the 
pronoun 'it' refer to?  Is it a package called ubuntu.deb?  I am 
installed as Kubuntu Hardy with KDE 3.5.10.  Both Dotan and Eberhard are 
my close friends and it appears in conflict.  I would rather have my 
computer broken than offend either of you.  And I don't know which is 
better advice.

Am I supposed to type into the terminal:

= Download the deb for ubuntu and...

I will wait for a little more input before I proceed.  Thanks to you all.

Steven



From rjlapham at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 06:41:56 2009
From: rjlapham at gmail.com (jerry Lapham)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 01:41:56 -0500
Subject: Wicd Manager never connects
Message-ID: <200901040141.56220.rjlapham@gmail.com>

I took my Acer Aspire 3002LCi laptop to a friends house and tried to connect 
to her  Linksys router.  Wicd found it marked as uprotected but when I tried 
to connect Wicd showed it waiting of an IP until it timed out.

I have no trouble connecting to my D-Link DI-524 wireless router at home or to 
routers at several motels.

Any ideas as to what the problem could be.  I'm home now and can't give 
further details.

	-Jerry
-- 
=============================================
Jerry Lapham
Monroe, OH  45050
rjlapham at gmail.com
=============================================
Walk to Emmaus: Fueling station for a spirit-filled church



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan  4 06:45:01 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:45:01 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it
	stay	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <4960425E.3050105@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>	<880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>
	<4960425E.3050105@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49605AED.7070404@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> Am I supposed to type into the terminal:
> 
> = Download the deb for ubuntu and...
> 
> I will wait for a little more input before I proceed.  Thanks to you all.

I don't think you need to download anything.  As I understand it, you
have a /dev/sdb5 partition, mounted on /media/sdb5, and your problem is
that you can't write to /media/sdb5 .  Try the following (/media/sdb5
should already be mounted, because of your new fstab):

sudo chown steven:steven /media/sdb5
mkdir /media/sdb5/NewDirectory
touch /media/sdb5/NewDirectory/test.txt

Post any output (there should be none, other than the sudo prompt, if it
works).

This changes ownership on the root directory of the filesystem to you,
then creates a directory and a file to test.  Afterwards, post the
output of:

ls -ld /media/sdb5
ls -ld /media/sdb5/NewDirectory
ls -l /media/sdb5/NewDirectory

Best,

Matt Flaschen



From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Sun Jan  4 07:08:41 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:08:41 -0800
Subject: Wicd Manager never connects
In-Reply-To: <200901040141.56220.rjlapham@gmail.com>
References: <200901040141.56220.rjlapham@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901032308.41861.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Saturday 03 January 2009 10:41:56 pm jerry Lapham wrote:
> I took my Acer Aspire 3002LCi laptop to a friends house and tried to
> connect to her  Linksys router.  Wicd found it marked as uprotected but
> when I tried to connect Wicd showed it waiting of an IP until it timed out.
>
> I have no trouble connecting to my D-Link DI-524 wireless router at home or
> to routers at several motels.
>
> Any ideas as to what the problem could be.  I'm home now and can't give
> further details.

Well, mine does that to people too when they try to get on my "unnamed 
network", yet it DOES have a name.  However, mine is also set not to 
broadcast,  ...AND is set to exclude all MAC addresses but those I add to my 
list.  ;)  ;)   

-- 
73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n><   PDGA# 35276
http://the-inner-circle.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan  4 07:18:26 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 02:18:26 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually? **RESOLVED**  Thanks to all.
In-Reply-To: <49605AED.7070404@gatech.edu>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>	<880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>	<4960425E.3050105@sbcglobal.net>
	<49605AED.7070404@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <496062C2.2080605@sbcglobal.net>

Dear Mathew,

It works again.  You can't know how frustrated I have been.  I have been 
trying to repair the problem for over a year.  I have worked around the 
problem, however, the extra steps are a little annoying.  I am laughing 
so much that I am making mistakes while responding.  I am so happy.

I don't fully understand what has happened, but I am copying the process 
and will study until I understand.  If I get confused, may I write to 
get a little additional coaching?
> ls -ld /media/sdb5
> ls -ld /media/sdb5/NewDirectory
> ls -l /media/sdb5/NewDirectory
>   

steven at Studio25:~$ sudo chown steven:steven /media/sdb5
[sudo] password for steven:
steven at Studio25:~$ mkdir /media/sdb5/NewDirectory
steven at Studio25:~$ touch /media/sdb5/NewDirectory/test.txt
steven at Studio25:~$ ls -ld /media/sdb5
drwxr-xr-x 5 steven steven 4096 2009-01-04 02:08 /media/sdb5
steven at Studio25:~$ ls -ld /media/sdb5/NewDirectory
drwxr-xr-x 2 steven steven 4096 2009-01-04 02:06 /media/sdb5/NewDirectory
steven at Studio25:~$ ls -l /media/sdb5/NewDirectory
total 0
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 0 2009-01-04 02:06 test.txt
steven at Studio25:~$

I can't  wait to have your understanding.  Thanks again friend.

Steven

> Best,
>
> Matt Flaschen
>
>   




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 07:22:34 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:22:34 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <49600840.7000605@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030857.02334.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030625v4d3ba416o869c5d9cd1e68842@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901030949.48359.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030658k4083fd54q63dd48f50d8ec99c@mail.gmail.com>
	<49600840.7000605@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901032322i2af44d45pc022c42ae481332b@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/4 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
> Excellent. Now, lets see what is in there:
>
> $ cd /media/sdb5
> $ ls -l
> $ sudo cd /media/sdb5
> $ sudo ls -l
>
>
>
> How does the highlighted differ from the entry two above?
>

The sudo commands were just in case the normal user commands were not
allowed. We see now that they are redundant as the regular user
commands were allowed. Now, run these commands:

$ cd /media/sdb5
$ sudo chown steven *
$ sudo chgrp steven *
$ ls -la

And post back the output.

It looks to me like the only directory on that disk is "steven". Do
you have reason to think that there are others?

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
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ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 07:25:14 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:25:14 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <49601CF9.7090208@gatech.edu>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030803.55577.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030508m5b0d06a2p8debfca7b4d91000@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901030819.43640.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030529s196995cfncd560ff7bbd94f38@mail.gmail.com>
	<49601CF9.7090208@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <880dece00901032325p2c1af536qe42cccd1327615d0@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/4 Matthew Flaschen <matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu>:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> "gedit" is a text editor, I thought that it was installed in all
>> Ubuntu installations.
>
> It is, but this is the Kubuntu list. :)
>
>  Try kedit instead if you use KDE (er, I think
>> that I remember that you do!)
>>
>> $ sudo kedit /etc/fstab
>
> Actually, it's called kate:
>
> sudo kate /etc/fstab
>
> Matt Flaschen
>

Thanks, Matt. I usually use VI for these things, but I really thought
that gedit was available in all the *buntus. No big deal, I see that
the OP installed kedit and got through that just fine on his own.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan  4 07:29:05 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 02:29:05 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it
	stay	active	continually? **RESOLVED**  Thanks to all.
In-Reply-To: <496062C2.2080605@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>	<880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>	<4960425E.3050105@sbcglobal.net>	<49605AED.7070404@gatech.edu>
	<496062C2.2080605@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49606541.7000706@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> Dear Mathew,
> 
> It works again. 

Great!  You just didn't have write permission for the root directory of
the partition's filesystem.

> I don't fully understand what has happened, but I am copying the process 
> and will study until I understand.  If I get confused, may I write to 
> get a little additional coaching?

Sure.

>> ls -ld /media/sdb5
>> ls -ld /media/sdb5/NewDirectory
>> ls -l /media/sdb5/NewDirectory
>>   
> 
> steven at Studio25:~$ sudo chown steven:steven /media/sdb5
> [sudo] password for steven:
> steven at Studio25:~$ mkdir /media/sdb5/NewDirectory
> steven at Studio25:~$ touch /media/sdb5/NewDirectory/test.txt
> steven at Studio25:~$ ls -ld /media/sdb5
> drwxr-xr-x 5 steven steven 4096 2009-01-04 02:08 /media/sdb5
> steven at Studio25:~$ ls -ld /media/sdb5/NewDirectory
> drwxr-xr-x 2 steven steven 4096 2009-01-04 02:06 /media/sdb5/NewDirectory
> steven at Studio25:~$ ls -l /media/sdb5/NewDirectory
> total 0
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 0 2009-01-04 02:06 test.txt
> steven at Studio25:~$

Yep, this is the output what I expected.  You should now be able to use
the partition normally.  Also, you can obviously rename or delete
NewDirectory and test.txt.  That was only for debugging.

Matt Flaschen



From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk  Sun Jan  4 08:20:28 2009
From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 08:20:28 +0000
Subject: Can't set clock
Message-ID: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>

I discovered that my computer clock is 90 seconds fast.  I tried to 
reset it using both the "System Settings" applet and the command-line.  
In the first case, it complained about not being able to connect with 
the time-server and so not being able to set time, date and timezone 
data (I'd only changed the time).  Any idea how I'm supposed to get the 
time right???

Kubuntu Intrepid, KDE 4.2 beta up to date. 64bit version.

-- 
Blessings

Wulfmann

Wulf Credo:
Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack.
Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between.
Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark.
Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz




From tuxebi at gmx.de  Sun Jan  4 10:32:26 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 11:32:26 +0100
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active 
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gjq37u$8i4$1@ger.gmane.org>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/3 Eberhard Roloff <tuxebi at gmx.de>:
>> this might look to be complicated, but I sincerely believe this approach
>> will work out, not only with your harddisk, but with anything else.
>>
>> Go to:
>> http://www.webmin.com/download.html
>>
>> = Download the deb for ubuntu and...
>> = Install it by clicking on it
>> = login with you browser to https://localhost:10000
>> = go to "system/disk and network filesystem"
>> = click on your disk
>> = adjust accordingly
>>
>> kind regards and happy new year
>>
> 
> I think that so long as we can help Stephen configure his system the
> correct way, that would be preferable. 

agreed,
it was just a suggestion to get the job done. I also felt that it would 
be ok to hopefully stop this neverending thread. ;-)


Also, just please provide a few examples where webmin configures the 
system incorrectly, so I can avoid using it for that purpose(s).

For what I use it for, I never ever had any difficulties.

I personally do not like
> applications that work black magic behind the scenes, 

this is perfectly ok for you and me, albeit probably not for everyone.

>and may alter
> his configuration in a way that would be difficult or impossible to
> undo.

again, a few examples would be of great help.

Highly recommended as an introduction (for some, not for everyone):

"How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love UNIX" ;-)
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781886411920/

kind regards
Eberhard





From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 11:14:05 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:14:05 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <gjq37u$8i4$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>
	<gjq37u$8i4$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <880dece00901040314o24cc4b4fv95c8e5df4fa09271@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/4 Eberhard Roloff <tuxebi at gmx.de>:
> agreed,
> it was just a suggestion to get the job done. I also felt that it would
> be ok to hopefully stop this neverending thread. ;-)
>

Now that the partition is automounting, we are halfway there.

> Also, just please provide a few examples where webmin configures the
> system incorrectly, so I can avoid using it for that purpose(s).
>

I don't know, I've never used it. But there is a right way to do this,
so why resort to a bandaid designed for the clueless and helpless.
Even if someone on this list is clueless, he has us so he is not
helpless.

> For what I use it for, I never ever had any difficulties.
>

Excellent, but can you go back and restore the system to how it was
before you started? Do you know what changes it makes to your system?
What (possibly incorrect) assumtions it makes? We are talking about a
desktop machine here, not a server, does webmin take that into
account?

> I personally do not like
>> applications that work black magic behind the scenes,
>
> this is perfectly ok for you and me, albeit probably not for everyone.
>

Right, but so long as they have us, the fix should be the right fix,
not a bandaid.

>>and may alter
>> his configuration in a way that would be difficult or impossible to
>> undo.
>
> again, a few examples would be of great help.
>

I don't use the app, sorry.

> Highly recommended as an introduction (for some, not for everyone):
>
> "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love UNIX" ;-)
> http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781886411920/
>

Thanks, I will read that. If it's on oreilly, it is probably worth a good read.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
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а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From dave at thefletchers.net  Sun Jan  4 12:03:16 2009
From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 12:03:16 +0000
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200901041203.23298.dave@thefletchers.net>

On Sunday 04 Jan 2009, Wulfy wrote:
> I discovered that my computer clock is 90 seconds fast.  I tried to 
> reset it using both the "System Settings" applet and the command-line.  
> In the first case, it complained about not being able to connect with 
> the time-server and so not being able to set time, date and timezone 
> data (I'd only changed the time).  Any idea how I'm supposed to get the 
> time right???
> 

You have ntpd installed?

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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Sun Jan  4 12:51:50 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:51:50 +0100
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active 
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901040314o24cc4b4fv95c8e5df4fa09271@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>	<880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>	<gjq37u$8i4$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<880dece00901040314o24cc4b4fv95c8e5df4fa09271@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gjqbd7$t93$1@ger.gmane.org>

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> 
> Excellent, but can you go back and restore the system to how it was
> before you started? Do you know what changes it makes to your system?
> What (possibly incorrect) assumtions it makes? 

No, you are absolutely correct. At least as long as I am not looking at 
the source code.

We are talking about a
> desktop machine here, not a server, does webmin take that into
> account?

yes, it does not "only" install servers, since a few years, it is always 
handy to administer the local desktop*s technical features, just as well.


>> Highly recommended as an introduction (for some, not for everyone):
>>
>> "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love UNIX" ;-)
>> http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781886411920/
>>
> 
> Thanks, I will read that. If it's on oreilly, it is probably worth a good read.

Yes it is. There is also a pdf version available. I just forgot where.

Kind regards
Eberhard




From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk  Sun Jan  4 12:57:27 2009
From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:57:27 +0000
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <200901041203.23298.dave@thefletchers.net>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041203.23298.dave@thefletchers.net>
Message-ID: <4960B237.5070803@tiscali.co.uk>

David Fletcher wrote:
> On Sunday 04 Jan 2009, Wulfy wrote:
>   
>> I discovered that my computer clock is 90 seconds fast.  I tried to 
>> reset it using both the "System Settings" applet and the command-line.  
>> In the first case, it complained about not being able to connect with 
>> the time-server and so not being able to set time, date and timezone 
>> data (I'd only changed the time).  Any idea how I'm supposed to get the 
>> time right???
>>
>>     
>
> You have ntpd installed?
>
>   
I have ntpdate installed.  I think that supplies the daemon.

<sigh> I've had problems with the public time servers ever since I moved 
to Linux when Sarge was Testing in Debian.  I've never had a problem 
like this, though.

-- 
Blessings

Wulfmann

Wulf Credo:
Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack.
Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between.
Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark.
Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 12:59:01 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:59:01 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <gjqbd7$t93$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>
	<gjq37u$8i4$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<880dece00901040314o24cc4b4fv95c8e5df4fa09271@mail.gmail.com>
	<gjqbd7$t93$1@ger.gmane.org>
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2009/1/4 Eberhard Roloff <tuxebi at gmx.de>:
>> Thanks, I will read that. If it's on oreilly, it is probably worth a good read.
>
> Yes it is. There is also a pdf version available. I just forgot where.
>

After replying, I went to the site and I see that it is a book for
sale. Oreilly generally provides PDFs of their books, but they are
subject to the same copyright as the books are and are therefore not
available for free download. I suppose that it could be found with
some creative googling, but instead I will just google webmin and read
texts that were _meant_ to be read. Thanks for the tip, though!

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
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а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From tuxebi at gmx.de  Sun Jan  4 13:21:35 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:21:35 +0100
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active 
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901040459p5fa2228et14a0f02f448878b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>	<880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>	<gjq37u$8i4$1@ger.gmane.org>	<880dece00901040314o24cc4b4fv95c8e5df4fa09271@mail.gmail.com>	<gjqbd7$t93$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<880dece00901040459p5fa2228et14a0f02f448878b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gjqd4v$23g$1@ger.gmane.org>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/4 Eberhard Roloff <tuxebi at gmx.de>:
>>> Thanks, I will read that. If it's on oreilly, it is probably worth a good read.
>> Yes it is. There is also a pdf version available. I just forgot where.
>>
> 
> After replying, I went to the site and I see that it is a book for
> sale. Oreilly generally provides PDFs of their books, but they are
> subject to the same copyright as the books are and are therefore not
> available for free download. I suppose that it could be found with
> some creative googling, but instead I will just google webmin and read
> texts that were _meant_ to be read. Thanks for the tip, though!
> 
alternatively:

http://swelltech.com/support/pdfs/webminguide.pdf




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 13:29:20 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 15:29:20 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <gjqd4v$23g$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>
	<gjq37u$8i4$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<880dece00901040314o24cc4b4fv95c8e5df4fa09271@mail.gmail.com>
	<gjqbd7$t93$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<880dece00901040459p5fa2228et14a0f02f448878b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<gjqd4v$23g$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <880dece00901040529tad68ed6v29506444fd1dd710@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/4 Eberhard Roloff <tuxebi at gmx.de>:
> alternatively:
>
> http://swelltech.com/support/pdfs/webminguide.pdf
>
>

Thanks.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Sun Jan  4 13:50:55 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 08:50:55 -0500
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <4960B237.5070803@tiscali.co.uk>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041203.23298.dave@thefletchers.net>
	<4960B237.5070803@tiscali.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200901040850.55913.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Sunday 04 January 2009, Wulfy wrote:
>David Fletcher wrote:
>> On Sunday 04 Jan 2009, Wulfy wrote:
>>> I discovered that my computer clock is 90 seconds fast.  I tried to
>>> reset it using both the "System Settings" applet and the command-line.
>>> In the first case, it complained about not being able to connect with
>>> the time-server and so not being able to set time, date and timezone
>>> data (I'd only changed the time).  Any idea how I'm supposed to get the
>>> time right???
>>
>> You have ntpd installed?
>
>I have ntpdate installed.  I think that supplies the daemon.
>
ntpdate is not ntpd, in fact, in the versions I'm fam with,  starting the ntpd 
via the script in init.d, it generally uses ntpdate to do a crash set of the 
clock to something sane, and then starts the daemon ntpd to keep it that way.

Two different protcols.

><sigh> I've had problems with the public time servers ever since I moved
>to Linux when Sarge was Testing in Debian.  I've never had a problem
>like this, though.

pool.ntp.org is a pseudo round robin dns server and has always worked for me.

>--
>Blessings
>
>Wulfmann
>
>Wulf Credo:
>Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack.
>Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between.
>Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark.
>Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
When you make your mark in the world, watch out for guys with erasers.
		-- The Wall Street Journal



From dave at thefletchers.net  Sun Jan  4 15:04:37 2009
From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 15:04:37 +0000
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <4960B237.5070803@tiscali.co.uk>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041203.23298.dave@thefletchers.net>
	<4960B237.5070803@tiscali.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200901041504.43593.dave@thefletchers.net>

On Sunday 04 Jan 2009, Wulfy wrote:
> I have ntpdate installed.  I think that supplies the daemon.
> 
> <sigh> I've had problems with the public time servers ever since I moved 
> to Linux when Sarge was Testing in Debian.  I've never had a problem 
> like this, though.
> 
> -- 
> Blessings
> 
> Wulfmann
> 

I've never installed ntpdate. I didn't know there was such a thing.

What I'd try is removing ntpdate then install ntp (or is it ntpd? I can't 
recall). If it needs ntpdate it should put it back.

Then what happens is, your system will not immediately show the correct time, 
it will very gradually adjust itself little by little. Unless you reboot it, 
then I think it sets itself correctly right away.

Dave



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From miron.florea at web.de  Sun Jan  4 16:04:41 2009
From: miron.florea at web.de (Octavian Florea)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:04:41 +0200
Subject: omnibook modules - kernel compilation
Message-ID: <4960DE19.30003@web.de>

To get bluetooth (among others) working on Toshiba laptops with Phoenix 
BIOS one needs the omnibook kernel modules.
I use custom compiled kernels and I'd like to know whether the omnibook 
modules can be added when compiling the kernel and how would I go about 
that.

Thank you in advance



From geraldi.evenden at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 16:41:36 2009
From: geraldi.evenden at gmail.com (Gerald I. Evenden)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:41:36 -0500
Subject: Troubles with kmail and Konqueror
In-Reply-To: <4960B237.5070803@tiscali.co.uk>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041203.23298.dave@thefletchers.net>
	<4960B237.5070803@tiscali.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200901041141.36196.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com>

In any operation in kmail where Konqueror is initiated as the result of a web 
address, etc. I often get into trouble because some web sites cannot be 
processed by Konqueror.  I can go to the same url with Mozilla with no 
problem but Konqueror hangs up.

My question is: can kmail be altered so that Mozilla is used automatically 
rather than Konqueror?  I can't find any 'preference' switch, etc..

Thanks in advance.

-- 
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due
to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum.
-- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist



From ignazio_io at yahoo.it  Sun Jan  4 16:46:12 2009
From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:46:12 +0100
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
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2009/1/3 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> On Saturday 03 January 2009 3:31:54 am Jonas Norlander wrote:
>> cat /etc/fstab
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> #
> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
> # /dev/sdb1
> UUID=2795cc01-0df3-4b4d-b46c-0adf8156e4aa / ext3
> nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
> # /dev/sda1
> # /dev/sda5
> UUID=bddaaee3-408a-4f69-a9bf-b9c47af61b7e /media/sda5 ext3
> nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
> # /dev/sda7
> UUID=e8dac51b-91a9-43ab-9d75-cb4d6af8efa3 /media/sda7 ext3
> nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
> # /dev/sda8
> # /dev/sda6
> UUID=8bb9d04a-5d6e-45bf-9753-cfb6f585b2f3 none swap sw 0 0
> # /dev/sdb2
> UUID=09850bc0-ac07-4f45-bb39-1eba22243e4d none swap sw 0 0
> /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
> /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
> /dev/sdb5 /media/sdb5 ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
> /dev/sda1 /media ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0

I'm not an expert in mount points, but this last line mounts sda1 as
/media; doesn't this cause problems with all the other volumes mounted
at points that are subfolders of /media? I would think, for example,
that the floppy would be inaccessible when sda1 is mounted.
HTH,
I.

> steven at Studio25:~$
>
>
> steven at Studio25:~$ sudo fdisk -l
> [sudo] password for steven:
>
> Disk /dev/sda: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24792 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x47a447a3
>
>   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sda1   *           1        1824    14651248+  83  Linux
> /dev/sda2            1825       24792   184490460    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
> /dev/sda5           16523       24792    66428775   83  Linux
> /dev/sda6            1825        2006     1461852   82  Linux swap / Solaris
> /dev/sda7            2007       16522   116599738+  83  Linux
>
> Partition table entries are not in disk order
>
> Disk /dev/sdb: 81.9 GB, 81964302336 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9964 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0xffffffff
>
>   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sdb1               1        2591    20812176   83  Linux
> /dev/sdb2            2592        2856     2128612+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
> /dev/sdb3            2857        9964    57095010    5  Extended
> /dev/sdb5            2857        9964    57094978+  83  Linux
> steven at Studio25:~$
>
> This sure is fun.
>
> Steven
>
>
>
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From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Sun Jan  4 16:58:07 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:58:07 -0500
Subject: Troubles with kmail and Konqueror
In-Reply-To: <200901041141.36196.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk> <4960B237.5070803@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041141.36196.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901041158.08104.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Sunday 04 January 2009, Gerald I. Evenden wrote:
> My question is: can kmail be altered so that Mozilla is used automatically
> rather than Konqueror?  I can't find any 'preference' switch, etc..

Check for  settings --->  KDE components  -->   file associations    and then 
search for HTML.

But if you are running  KDE4,  all bets are off on the above.



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 17:16:18 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:16:18 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <6a61afdc0901040846t735a5767pb8627d00f06db8cc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<6a61afdc0901040846t735a5767pb8627d00f06db8cc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00901040916i131295dgceb78eadb74f6ef7@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/4 Ignazio Palmisano <ignazio_io at yahoo.it>:
>> /dev/sda1 /media ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
>
> I'm not an expert in mount points, but this last line mounts sda1 as
> /media; doesn't this cause problems with all the other volumes mounted
> at points that are subfolders of /media? I would think, for example,
> that the floppy would be inaccessible when sda1 is mounted.
> HTH,
> I.
>

That does sound right. I did not even notice that as I was
concentrating on sdb5. However, as it is not automatically mounted, it
seems that the OP may have neverfound himself in that situation.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From kassube at gmx.net  Sun Jan  4 17:50:15 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:50:15 +0100
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <6a61afdc0901040846t735a5767pb8627d00f06db8cc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<6a61afdc0901040846t735a5767pb8627d00f06db8cc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901041850.15632.kassube@gmx.net>

Ignazio Palmisano wrote:
> 2009/1/3 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> > /dev/sda1 /media ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
>
> I'm not an expert in mount points, but this last line mounts sda1 as
> /media; doesn't this cause problems with all the other volumes mounted
> at points that are subfolders of /media? I would think, for example,
> that the floppy would be inaccessible when sda1 is mounted.

That's a good point. It depends on what you call "a problem" for other 
mount points. If sda1 is mounted first, the new devices will be mounted 
below /media on sda1. If sda1 is mounted later, those devices which were 
mounted before sda1 are on /media on the root device (sdb1). However 
these devices will not be visible any longer after sda1 is mounted. This 
situation is certainly not wanted but the mount operation wouldn't fail. 
Anyway, the only time the mount operation would fail is when there is no 
appropriate directory for the new device at mount time.


Nils



From rjlapham at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 19:45:37 2009
From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:45:37 -0500
Subject: Wicd Manager never connects
In-Reply-To: <200901032308.41861.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901040141.56220.rjlapham@gmail.com>
	<200901032308.41861.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <200901041445.37529.rjlapham@gmail.com>

On Sunday 04 January 2009 2:08:41 am Pastor JW wrote:

> On Saturday 03 January 2009 10:41:56 pm jerry Lapham wrote:
> > I took my Acer Aspire 3002LCi laptop to a friends house and tried to
> > connect to her  Linksys router.  Wicd found it marked as uprotected but
> > when I tried to connect Wicd showed it waiting of an IP until it timed
> > out.
> >
> > I have no trouble connecting to my D-Link DI-524 wireless router at home
> > or to routers at several motels.
> >
> > Any ideas as to what the problem could be.  I'm home now and can't give
> > further details.
>
> Well, mine does that to people too when they try to get on my "unnamed
> network", yet it DOES have a name.  However, mine is also set not to
> broadcast,  ...AND is set to exclude all MAC addresses but those I add to
> my list.  ;)  ;)

But this is not an unnamed network and it does broadcast.  It's just unsecured 
and I should be able to connect.

	-Jerry
-- 
=============================================
Jerry Lapham
Monroe, OH  45050
rjlapham at gmail.com
=============================================
Walk to Emmaus: Fueling station for a spirit-filled church



From geraldi.evenden at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 21:35:48 2009
From: geraldi.evenden at gmail.com (Gerald I. Evenden)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:35:48 -0500
Subject: Troubles with kmail and Konqueror
In-Reply-To: <200901041158.08104.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041141.36196.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com>
	<200901041158.08104.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <200901041635.48154.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com>

On Sunday 04 January 2009 11:58:07 am Bruce Marshall wrote:
> On Sunday 04 January 2009, Gerald I. Evenden wrote:
> > My question is: can kmail be altered so that Mozilla is used
> > automatically rather than Konqueror?  I can't find any 'preference'
> > switch, etc..
>
> Check for  settings --->  KDE components  -->   file associations    and
> then search for HTML.
>
> But if you are running  KDE4,  all bets are off on the above.

Your suggestion led me:

system setting -> default application -> web browser
	and selecting firefox in the toggle entry "in the following brower:"

I hit one of the http's referred to in an email and Firefox came up.

So far, so good, thanks.

-- 
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due
to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum.
-- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist



From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk  Sun Jan  4 20:58:36 2009
From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:58:36 +0000
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <200901041504.43593.dave@thefletchers.net>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>	<200901041203.23298.dave@thefletchers.net>	<4960B237.5070803@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041504.43593.dave@thefletchers.net>
Message-ID: <496122FC.5020206@tiscali.co.uk>

David Fletcher wrote:
> I've never installed ntpdate. I didn't know there was such a thing.
>   

ntpdate is pulled in by ubuntu-minimal.

> What I'd try is removing ntpdate then install ntp (or is it ntpd? I can't 
> recall). If it needs ntpdate it should put it back.
>   
I tried removing ntpdate it would have broken ubuntu-minimal so I left 
it.  I installed ntp and it seems to have made no difference...

> Then what happens is, your system will not immediately show the correct time, 
> it will very gradually adjust itself little by little. Unless you reboot it, 
> then I think it sets itself correctly right away.
>
> Dave
Even after installing it, I get the "unable to contact time server" and 
that it can't update the time...  :@(

I even tried the old Windows First Resort as a last resort - I 
rebooted...  it made no difference.


-- 
Blessings

Wulfmann

Wulf Credo:
Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack.
Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between.
Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark.
Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan  4 20:58:52 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 15:58:52 -0500
Subject: Only with List permission.
Message-ID: <200901041558.52703.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I have and am being hurt by a hardware supplier.  May I post what they have 
done and are continuing to do to me?  I am angry, of course, but mostly I 
want to save members from a like situation.  As much as I want to because 
they deserve the spanking, I won't unless with the permission of the List.

Steven                P.S.:  If not, I will respond to any private inquiry 
                                   from those who also do not want to be 
                                   abused.          
                                                           



From gkourtev at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 21:01:34 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 23:01:34 +0200
Subject: K3b ripping problem
Message-ID: <200901042301.35263.gkourtev@gmail.com>

I want to rip to MP3 certain audio CDs using K3b. While doing this (using the 
defaults MP3 lame options) I got an error executing it: Command failed: lame -
h -tt <Name of collection> etc.....

For other formats like .ogg it works fine. Any suggestions?  Thanks.
gk


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From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Sun Jan  4 22:34:30 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:34:30 -0500
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <496122FC.5020206@tiscali.co.uk>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041504.43593.dave@thefletchers.net>
	<496122FC.5020206@tiscali.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200901041734.30638.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Sunday 04 January 2009, Wulfy wrote:
> > Then what happens is, your system will not immediately show the correct
> > time, it will very gradually adjust itself little by little. Unless you
> > reboot it, then I think it sets itself correctly right away.
> >
> > Dave
>
> Even after installing it, I get the "unable to contact time server" and
> that it can't update the time...  :@(
>
> I even tried the old Windows First Resort as a last resort - I
> rebooted...  it made no difference.

Try running:

ntpdate  pool.ntp.org


That is a one time shot at setting the clock.

Either make it a cron job (daily)  or modify:

/etc/ntp.conf

to include pool.ntp.org   as a time server.

Here's the appropriate server entries I have in  /etc/ntp.conf:

# You do need to talk to an NTP server or two (or three).
#server ntp.ubuntu.com
server 0.pool.ntp.org
server 1.pool.ntp.org
server 2.pool.ntp.org




From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Sun Jan  4 22:35:25 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:35:25 -0500
Subject: Only with List permission.
In-Reply-To: <200901041558.52703.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901041558.52703.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901041735.25734.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Sunday 04 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
> I have and am being hurt by a hardware supplier.  May I post what they have
> done and are continuing to do to me?  I am angry, of course, but mostly I
> want to save members from a like situation.  As much as I want to because
> they deserve the spanking, I won't unless with the permission of the List.
>
> Steven                P.S.:  If not, I will respond to any private inquiry
>                                    from those who also do not want to be
>                                    abused.

My opinion:   keep that kind of thing off-list.



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Sun Jan  4 23:41:34 2009
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 05:11:34 +0530
Subject: Only with List permission.
In-Reply-To: <200901041558.52703.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901041558.52703.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <78323d480901041541q1b1a0502sc8cdb709b8375204@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Steven Vollom
<stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I have and am being hurt by a hardware supplier.  May I post what they have
> done and are continuing to do to me?  I am angry, of course, but mostly I
> want to save members from a like situation.  As much as I want to because
> they deserve the spanking, I won't unless with the permission of the List.

If it is Linux or OSS or FOSS related, then do post

Best

A. Mani


-- 
A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc



From paul at lemmons.name  Sun Jan  4 23:42:39 2009
From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:42:39 -0700
Subject: K3b ripping problem
In-Reply-To: <200901042301.35263.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901042301.35263.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4961496F.9060903@lemmons.name>

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From paul at lemmons.name  Sun Jan  4 23:48:11 2009
From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:48:11 -0700
Subject: Only with List permission.
In-Reply-To: <200901041558.52703.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901041558.52703.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49614ABB.20303@lemmons.name>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I have and am being hurt by a hardware supplier.  May I post what they have 
> done and are continuing to do to me?  I am angry, of course, but mostly I 
> want to save members from a like situation.  As much as I want to because 
> they deserve the spanking, I won't unless with the permission of the List.
>   
Unless it is directly related to kubuntu I would say no. It may feel 
good to rant and it may even be good information but that is not why 
most of us are on this list. If you choose to post it anyway, please 
prefix your subject line with "OT:" so that we can see that it is off topic.
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 08:10:43 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:10:43 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
Message-ID: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>

I have popups coming on my screen for the first time.  They interrupt 
the thing I am doing.  It takes several clicks to get them off and they 
return fast.  I have only noticed them when using Firefox, which I 
continue to use from time to time for certain things.  Certain uses are 
much faster in firefox, but I hate unwanted interruption and will remove 
it from my machine if I can't get rid of the popups.  The only one that 
has a Titlebar reference is "Content Link".  Thanks!

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 06:44:29 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:44:29 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually. **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <gjq37u$8i4$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>	<880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>
	<gjq37u$8i4$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4961AC4D.8070802@sbcglobal.net>

I also felt that it would be ok to hopefully stop this neverending 
thread. ;-)
>
>   
> My dear friends, I don't know how I do it, but I seem to create 
> neverending threads from time to time.  A gentleman from Texas, 
> Constantinow Maltezos, posted a cure for the problem.  I responded 
> with my gratitude and a **RESOLVED** problem.  
> I am grateful to each and every one of you.  I lived with that problem 
> for over a year.  It is just wonderful to have the computer working 
> properly again.  I am so in all of your debt.  I have saved the 
> conclusions and will never forget how to help anyone who posts a 
> similar problem in the future.

Please be cautious when considering a BFG Technologies product.  They 
are the offender of my new computer.  They have broken their commitment 
with me over and over for a month and a half.  I still haven't received 
the replacement.

Cudos, Cheers!, Ciao and Cordially,

Steven




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 07:41:38 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:41:38 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901040916i131295dgceb78eadb74f6ef7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>	<200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<6a61afdc0901040846t735a5767pb8627d00f06db8cc@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00901040916i131295dgceb78eadb74f6ef7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4961B9B2.1020401@sbcglobal.net>


>
> That does sound right. I did not even notice that as I was
> concentrating on sdb5. However, as it is not automatically mounted, it
> seems that the OP may have neverfound himself in that situation.
>
>   
I am not sure I understand.  Are you suggesting if the partition was 
automounted, it would then be recognized when I attempt to install a 
second OS?

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 07:43:27 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:43:27 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901041850.15632.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<6a61afdc0901040846t735a5767pb8627d00f06db8cc@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901041850.15632.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <4961BA1F.7050607@sbcglobal.net>


>
> That's a good point. It depends on what you call "a problem" for other 
> mount points. If sda1 is mounted first, the new devices will be mounted 
> below /media on sda1. If sda1 is mounted later, those devices which were 
> mounted before sda1 are on /media on the root device (sdb1). However 
> these devices will not be visible any longer after sda1 is mounted. This 
> situation is certainly not wanted but the mount operation wouldn't fail. 
> Anyway, the only time the mount operation would fail is when there is no 
> appropriate directory for the new device at mount time.
>
>
>
>   
I am unable to understand this part.  I will keep studying though.

Steven




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 07:48:22 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:48:22 -0500
Subject: Only with List permission.
In-Reply-To: <200901041735.25734.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <200901041558.52703.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901041735.25734.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <4961BB46.5000602@sbcglobal.net>

Bruce Marshall wrote:
> On Sunday 04 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>   
>> I have and am being hurt by a hardware supplier.  May I post what they have
>> done and are continuing to do to me?  I am angry, of course, but mostly I
>> want to save members from a like situation.  As much as I want to because
>> they deserve the spanking, I won't unless with the permission of the List.
>>
>> Steven                P.S.:  If not, I will respond to any private inquiry
>>                                    from those who also do not want to be
>>                                    abused.
>>     
>
> My opinion:   keep that kind of thing off-list.
>
>   
Thanks Bruce.  It is not a desire for revenge, it is a desire to help 
you who help me from getting caught in the same unethical behavior.  I 
will respect your wishes.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 07:50:49 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:50:49 -0500
Subject: Only with List permission.
In-Reply-To: <78323d480901041541q1b1a0502sc8cdb709b8375204@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901041558.52703.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<78323d480901041541q1b1a0502sc8cdb709b8375204@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4961BBD9.1020201@sbcglobal.net>

Mani A wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Steven Vollom
> <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>   
>> I have and am being hurt by a hardware supplier.  May I post what they have
>> done and are continuing to do to me?  I am angry, of course, but mostly I
>> want to save members from a like situation.  As much as I want to because
>> they deserve the spanking, I won't unless with the permission of the List.
>>     
>
> If it is Linux or OSS or FOSS related, then do post
>
> Best
>
> A. Mani
>
>
>   
It involves the purchase of hardware.  Too many broken promises with 
never taking responsibility for their failure.  I don't want to do 
anything to hurt this List.  I am only  interested in helping you, my 
friends from running into the same problem.  Any of you can send me an 
email outside of the list, if you want to know the particulars.

Steven



From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Jan  5 01:08:39 2009
From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:08:39 +0000
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <200901041734.30638.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>	<200901041504.43593.dave@thefletchers.net>	<496122FC.5020206@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041734.30638.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <49615D97.1040809@tiscali.co.uk>

Bruce Marshall wrote:
> On Sunday 04 January 2009, Wulfy wrote:
>   
>>> Then what happens is, your system will not immediately show the correct
>>> time, it will very gradually adjust itself little by little. Unless you
>>> reboot it, then I think it sets itself correctly right away.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>       
>> Even after installing it, I get the "unable to contact time server" and
>> that it can't update the time...  :@(
>>
>> I even tried the old Windows First Resort as a last resort - I
>> rebooted...  it made no difference.
>>     
>
> Try running:
>
> ntpdate  pool.ntp.org
>
>
> That is a one time shot at setting the clock.
>   
wulfy at wulfy-desktop:~$ ntpdate  pool.ntp.org
 5 Jan 01:01:14 ntpdate[13316]: bind() fails: Permission denied
wulfy at wulfy-desktop:~$ sudo ntpdate  pool.ntp.org
[sudo] password for wulfy:
 5 Jan 01:01:29 ntpdate[13318]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting

> Either make it a cron job (daily)  or modify:
>
> /etc/ntp.conf
>
> to include pool.ntp.org   as a time server.
>
> Here's the appropriate server entries I have in  /etc/ntp.conf:
>
> # You do need to talk to an NTP server or two (or three).
> #server ntp.ubuntu.com
> server 0.pool.ntp.org
> server 1.pool.ntp.org
> server 2.pool.ntp.org
>
>
>   

I made the changes to ntp.conf.  The daily cron job accesses ntp.conf...

Thanks for your help, Bruce!  Much appreciated.  I'll report back in a 
day or so if it's working...

-- 
Blessings

Wulfmann

Wulf Credo:
Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack.
Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between.
Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark.
Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 09:59:05 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:59:05 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <4961B9B2.1020401@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<6a61afdc0901040846t735a5767pb8627d00f06db8cc@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00901040916i131295dgceb78eadb74f6ef7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4961B9B2.1020401@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901050159j67c15287o509b094a56298a4@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/5 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> I am not sure I understand.  Are you suggesting if the partition was
> automounted, it would then be recognized when I attempt to install a
> second OS?
>
> Steven
>

I means that there is an irresponsible entry in your fstab file. But
do not worry, in your normal usage it will not affect you because the
partition is not automatically mounted, and I know from conversations
with you that you do not mount that partition. If you are inclined to
fix it then change this line:
/dev/sda1 /media ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
To this:
/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0

The difference is in the second option, I changed it from "/media" to
"/media/sda1".

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 07:56:03 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:56:03 -0500
Subject: Only with List permission.
In-Reply-To: <49614ABB.20303@lemmons.name>
References: <200901041558.52703.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49614ABB.20303@lemmons.name>
Message-ID: <4961BD13.50904@sbcglobal.net>

Paul Lemmons wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>> I have and am being hurt by a hardware supplier.  May I post what 
>> they have done and are continuing to do to me?  I am angry, of 
>> course, but mostly I want to save members from a like situation.  As 
>> much as I want to because they deserve the spanking, I won't unless 
>> with the permission of the List.
>>   
> Unless it is directly related to kubuntu I would say no. It may feel 
> good to rant and it may even be good information but that is not why 
> most of us are on this list. If you choose to post it anyway, please 
> prefix your subject line with "OT:" so that we can see that it is off 
> topic.
Those people who want the information can respond to my email address.  
I will answer every email even if there are thousands.  I just want our 
good people protected from a company whose character and ethics do not 
measure up to their advertizements.  Lots of glitzy superficial stuff in 
their offering and abusive treatment when trying to solve the problem.  
Their technical representatives are so persuasive that even inside of a 
long stand and unserved problem, you still want to trust them.  
Nonetheless, they have never kept a commitment; I am not sure they will 
ever accept the return of a defectively manufactured product.

I don't want to try to circumvent the rules of the list.  It would 
weaken the List and I love it.  Thanks for your reply.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 06:50:45 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:50:45 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually. **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901030432o54f48110tce43aa71a2aab003@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901030646.16789.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901030405r5f774dc9u1f717993be6861b5@mail.gmail.com>	<200901030724.28552.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901030432o54f48110tce43aa71a2aab003@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4961ADC5.4050709@sbcglobal.net>

Thanks again to all.  I am trying to end an unending post.  The problem 
was finally resolved by a Texas Guru, Constantinos Maltezos;  I have 
saved the solution and will provide it for any who want it.  Just email 
me at stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net.  I am grateful to you all.  It was 
resolved in three pieces, but the final contribution came from 
Constantinos.  What a strong list we have.  I wish I could contribute 
more, but my contributions seem to be placing posts that teach well.  
Some day I hope to join you who actually do the work.  I am so very 
grateful to you all.

Steven




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 06:55:13 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:55:13 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901040314o24cc4b4fv95c8e5df4fa09271@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<gjo916$mlj$1@ger.gmane.org>	<880dece00901031010r7c06a3e2lb6ebe9bfdc585713@mail.gmail.com>	<gjq37u$8i4$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<880dece00901040314o24cc4b4fv95c8e5df4fa09271@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4961AED1.5030200@sbcglobal.net>

Dear Dotan,

Before I read this help, I had already solved the problem.  
ConstantinosMaltezos gave me the final answer.  You and the others have 
solved a problem I have been living with for over a year.  Thanks friend.

Steven
>
>   




From art.alexion at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 10:38:36 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:38:36 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4961E32C.4020200@gmail.com>

On 01/05/2009 Steven Vollom wrote:
> The only one that 
> has a Titlebar reference is "Content Link"

Stop surfing so much porn!  Just kidding.

It would be helpful if you said what the "pop-ups" say.  Are they 
message boxes from the program or javascript, or are they browser window 
pop-ups?



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Mon Jan  5 03:37:34 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:37:34 -0400
Subject: Can't set clock
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041203.23298.dave@thefletchers.net>
	<4960B237.5070803@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041504.43593.dave@thefletchers.net>
Message-ID: <vsb836-a3s.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

David Fletcher wrote:

> On Sunday 04 Jan 2009, Wulfy wrote:
>> I have ntpdate installed.  I think that supplies the daemon.
>> 
>> <sigh> I've had problems with the public time servers ever since I moved
>> to Linux when Sarge was Testing in Debian.  I've never had a problem
>> like this, though.
>> 
> 
> I've never installed ntpdate. I didn't know there was such a thing.

Please don't give users advice like this when you don't even know what the 
default-installed software does.

ntpdate is the default installed by ubuntu because most of us don't need a 
time server.

I'd recommend  you just look at syslog when you run ntpdate - it will 
usually tell you why it didn't work (and it usually means you have an 
invalid time server - which wouldn't be solved by installing ntpd)

> What I'd try is removing ntpdate then install ntp (or is it ntpd? I can't
> recall). If it needs ntpdate it should put it back.

It probably _won't_ need ntpdate if you have ntpd, but I really don't like 
the idea of users, who can't even figure out why ntpdate isn't working, 
running time servers.
> 
> Then what happens is, your system will not immediately show the correct
> time, it will very gradually adjust itself little by little. Unless you
> reboot it, then I think it sets itself correctly right away.





From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan  5 11:45:23 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 06:45:23 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901050645.23696.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 05 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>I have popups coming on my screen for the first time.  They interrupt
>the thing I am doing.  It takes several clicks to get them off and they
>return fast.  I have only noticed them when using Firefox, which I
>continue to use from time to time for certain things.  Certain uses are
>much faster in firefox, but I hate unwanted interruption and will remove
>it from my machine if I can't get rid of the popups.  The only one that
>has a Titlebar reference is "Content Link".  Thanks!
>
>Steven

 Check the tools pulldown, extensions submenu,  I have (among others) 
AdBlock-1.0, and no-script installed.  no-script can be a pita at times cuz 
it can stop everything, but it tells you too when it does.  There are several 
extensions, but those are the main ones.  Tools->add-ons will bring up 
another menu with a get add-ons button, and will show you what you have now 
along with the enabled/disabled status if its switchable.  And they are all 
checked at startup to see if they are the latest versions, if not you have 
the option of installing the latest right then and there, before FF even 
opens its main window.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
UNIX was half a billion (500000000) seconds old on
Tue Nov  5 00:53:20 1985 GMT (measuring since the time(2) epoch).
		-- Andy Tannenbaum



From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 11:56:37 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:56:37 +0200
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <vsb836-a3s.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>	<200901041203.23298.dave@thefletchers.net>	<4960B237.5070803@tiscali.co.uk>	<200901041504.43593.dave@thefletchers.net>
	<vsb836-a3s.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <4961F575.3040507@gmail.com>

Derek Broughton wrote:
> David Fletcher wrote:
> 
>> On Sunday 04 Jan 2009, Wulfy wrote:
>>> I have ntpdate installed.  I think that supplies the daemon.
>>>
>>> <sigh> I've had problems with the public time servers ever since I moved
>>> to Linux when Sarge was Testing in Debian.  I've never had a problem
>>> like this, though.
>>>
>> I've never installed ntpdate. I didn't know there was such a thing.
> 
> Please don't give users advice like this when you don't even know what the 
> default-installed software does.
> 
> ntpdate is the default installed by ubuntu because most of us don't need a 
> time server.
> 
> I'd recommend  you just look at syslog when you run ntpdate - it will 
> usually tell you why it didn't work (and it usually means you have an 
> invalid time server - which wouldn't be solved by installing ntpd)
> 
>> What I'd try is removing ntpdate then install ntp (or is it ntpd? I can't
>> recall). If it needs ntpdate it should put it back.
> 
> It probably _won't_ need ntpdate if you have ntpd, but I really don't like 
> the idea of users, who can't even figure out why ntpdate isn't working, 
> running time servers.
>> Then what happens is, your system will not immediately show the correct
>> time, it will very gradually adjust itself little by little. Unless you
>> reboot it, then I think it sets itself correctly right away.
> 
> 
> 
I managed by typing:
sudo ntpdate oceania.pool.ntp.org
and that is also the timeserver I have set the "systray" clock to use

Sinclair



From jonorland at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 12:02:06 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:02:06 +0100
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <4961F575.3040507@gmail.com>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041203.23298.dave@thefletchers.net>
	<4960B237.5070803@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041504.43593.dave@thefletchers.net>
	<vsb836-a3s.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <4961F575.3040507@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901050402k6ea0f04awc56ed3a35b0c877b@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/5 O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com>:
> Derek Broughton wrote:
>> David Fletcher wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday 04 Jan 2009, Wulfy wrote:
>>>> I have ntpdate installed.  I think that supplies the daemon.
>>>>
>>>> <sigh> I've had problems with the public time servers ever since I moved
>>>> to Linux when Sarge was Testing in Debian.  I've never had a problem
>>>> like this, though.
>>>>
>>> I've never installed ntpdate. I didn't know there was such a thing.
>>
>> Please don't give users advice like this when you don't even know what the
>> default-installed software does.
>>
>> ntpdate is the default installed by ubuntu because most of us don't need a
>> time server.
>>
>> I'd recommend  you just look at syslog when you run ntpdate - it will
>> usually tell you why it didn't work (and it usually means you have an
>> invalid time server - which wouldn't be solved by installing ntpd)
>>
>>> What I'd try is removing ntpdate then install ntp (or is it ntpd? I can't
>>> recall). If it needs ntpdate it should put it back.
>>
>> It probably _won't_ need ntpdate if you have ntpd, but I really don't like
>> the idea of users, who can't even figure out why ntpdate isn't working,
>> running time servers.
>>> Then what happens is, your system will not immediately show the correct
>>> time, it will very gradually adjust itself little by little. Unless you
>>> reboot it, then I think it sets itself correctly right away.
>>
>>
>>
> I managed by typing:
> sudo ntpdate oceania.pool.ntp.org
> and that is also the timeserver I have set the "systray" clock to use
>
> Sinclair
>

The best is to use the closest server. Here is a list of servers
http://www.pool.ntp.org/zone/

/ Jonas



From michael at weblore.com  Mon Jan  5 12:17:40 2009
From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 06:17:40 -0600
Subject: Problem playing a DVD
Message-ID: <200901050617.40730.michael@weblore.com>

I have a DVD that I'd like to be able to play on my system. When I look at the 
directory structure on it, I find that the VIDEO_TS directory doesn't have 
execute permission ... IOW I can't list the contents. I have libdvd 
installed, but I'm not sure how to get past this problem.

Can anyone offer any help?

---Michael



From jonorland at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 12:24:24 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:24:24 +0100
Subject: Problem playing a DVD
In-Reply-To: <200901050617.40730.michael@weblore.com>
References: <200901050617.40730.michael@weblore.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901050424q6d3568c5p1085d6bcf3dd7d5c@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/5 Michael Satterwhite <michael at weblore.com>:
> I have a DVD that I'd like to be able to play on my system. When I look at the
> directory structure on it, I find that the VIDEO_TS directory doesn't have
> execute permission ... IOW I can't list the contents. I have libdvd
> installed, but I'm not sure how to get past this problem.
>
> Can anyone offer any help?
>

You don't need to mount a DVD-Video to play it (same for Audio CD).
Just pop it in the reader and choose play DVD in Kaffeine. If the DVD
is encrypted you need the libdvdcss2 library from the
http://www.medibuntu.org/ repository read up on there site how to add
it.

/ Jonas



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan  5 12:24:36 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:24:36 -0500
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <4961F575.3040507@gmail.com>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk> <vsb836-a3s.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<4961F575.3040507@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901050724.36503.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 05 January 2009, O. Sinclair wrote:
>Derek Broughton wrote:
>> David Fletcher wrote:
>>> On Sunday 04 Jan 2009, Wulfy wrote:
>>>> I have ntpdate installed.  I think that supplies the daemon.
>>>>
>>>> <sigh> I've had problems with the public time servers ever since I moved
>>>> to Linux when Sarge was Testing in Debian.  I've never had a problem
>>>> like this, though.
>>>
>>> I've never installed ntpdate. I didn't know there was such a thing.
>>
>> Please don't give users advice like this when you don't even know what the
>> default-installed software does.
>>
>> ntpdate is the default installed by ubuntu because most of us don't need a
>> time server.
>>
>> I'd recommend  you just look at syslog when you run ntpdate - it will
>> usually tell you why it didn't work (and it usually means you have an
>> invalid time server - which wouldn't be solved by installing ntpd)
>>
>>> What I'd try is removing ntpdate then install ntp (or is it ntpd? I can't
>>> recall). If it needs ntpdate it should put it back.
>>
>> It probably _won't_ need ntpdate if you have ntpd, but I really don't like
>> the idea of users, who can't even figure out why ntpdate isn't working,
>> running time servers.
>>
>>> Then what happens is, your system will not immediately show the correct
>>> time, it will very gradually adjust itself little by little. Unless you
>>> reboot it, then I think it sets itself correctly right away.
>
>I managed by typing:
>sudo ntpdate oceania.pool.ntp.org
>and that is also the timeserver I have set the "systray" clock to use
>
>Sinclair

And you are beating on a single machine, remove the 'oceania.' part and let 
the ntp dns server spread the load.


-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Life is fraught with opportunities to keep your mouth shut.



From michael at weblore.com  Mon Jan  5 12:56:26 2009
From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 06:56:26 -0600
Subject: Problem playing a DVD
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901050424q6d3568c5p1085d6bcf3dd7d5c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901050617.40730.michael@weblore.com>
	<b8d784880901050424q6d3568c5p1085d6bcf3dd7d5c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901050656.26907.michael@weblore.com>

On Monday 05 January 2009 06:24:24 am Jonas Norlander wrote:
> 2009/1/5 Michael Satterwhite <michael at weblore.com>:
> > I have a DVD that I'd like to be able to play on my system. When I look
> > at the directory structure on it, I find that the VIDEO_TS directory
> > doesn't have execute permission ... IOW I can't list the contents. I have
> > libdvd installed, but I'm not sure how to get past this problem.
> >
> > Can anyone offer any help?
>
> You don't need to mount a DVD-Video to play it (same for Audio CD).
> Just pop it in the reader and choose play DVD in Kaffeine. If the DVD
> is encrypted you need the libdvdcss2 library from the
> http://www.medibuntu.org/ repository read up on there site how to add
> it.

That would be great ... if Kaffeine actually worked (at least in my 
installation - I'm sure it's working properly in yours). My DVD drive 
is /dev/scd0. For whatever reason Kaffeine insists on trying to open sdb5 - 
which has nothing on it. I do have libdvdcss2 installed. If I could open the 
directory, I could manually select the video file to play. As it is, it's 
Kaffeine is unusable with this DVD.





From art.alexion at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 02:03:11 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:03:11 -0500
Subject: K3b ripping problem
In-Reply-To: <4961496F.9060903@lemmons.name>
References: <200901042301.35263.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<4961496F.9060903@lemmons.name>
Message-ID: <49616A5F.6070602@gmail.com>

On 01/04/2009 Paul Lemmons wrote:
> sudo apt-get install lame
> 

Its

sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3

while you are at it, you may also want to install libk3b2-extracodecs.




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 13:09:25 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:09:25 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901050159j67c15287o509b094a56298a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>	<200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<6a61afdc0901040846t735a5767pb8627d00f06db8cc@mail.gmail.com>	<880dece00901040916i131295dgceb78eadb74f6ef7@mail.gmail.com>	<4961B9B2.1020401@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901050159j67c15287o509b094a56298a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49620685.6030502@sbcglobal.net>


> I means that there is an irresponsible entry in your fstab file. But
> do not worry, in your normal usage it will not affect you because the
> partition is not automatically mounted, and I know from conversations
> with you that you do not mount that partition. If you are inclined to
> fix it then change this line:
> /dev/sda1 /media ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
> To this:
> /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
>
> The difference is in the second option, I changed it from "/media" to
> "/media/sda1".
>
>   
Dear Dotan,

If I recall correctly, I need to enter the fstab file in a special way 
so that I can modify it.  When one of the tasks was performed in the 
recent past, I lost all my saved email records.  I lost the email that 
had the instruction to get into fstab in a way that I could modify it.  
I tried kate; /root/etc/fstab, I tried kate; /etc/fstab.  Is Kate the 
wrong text editor?

It was a significant loss, my email records, I had code for all my 
repairs in there, including how to edit fstab.  Please help once again.  
I will save it again.  Additionally, I will purchase a thumb drive and 
copy all future code instructions to it.  Thanks and sorry for having to 
ask again.

Steven



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 13:14:25 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:14:25 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <49620685.6030502@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<6a61afdc0901040846t735a5767pb8627d00f06db8cc@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00901040916i131295dgceb78eadb74f6ef7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4961B9B2.1020401@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901050159j67c15287o509b094a56298a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49620685.6030502@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901050514w4e56e5dby1f1f94e17c4df1b0@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/5 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> If I recall correctly, I need to enter the fstab file in a special way
> so that I can modify it.  When one of the tasks was performed in the
> recent past, I lost all my saved email records.  I lost the email that
> had the instruction to get into fstab in a way that I could modify it.
> I tried kate; /root/etc/fstab, I tried kate; /etc/fstab.  Is Kate the
> wrong text editor?
>

$ sudo kate /etc/fstab

"sudo" means to do something with root privileges. Since you are
editing a system file, you need this.
"kate" is the name of the program that you are calling. You can use
gedit, kedit, vim, emacs, or even notepad if you have it installed!
"/etc/fstab" is the path to the file that you are editing.

You made a good guess using the semicolon character, though.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 13:17:00 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:17:00 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <4961E32C.4020200@gmail.com>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net> <4961E32C.4020200@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4962084C.6010503@sbcglobal.net>

Art Alexion wrote:
> On 01/05/2009 Steven Vollom wrote:
>   
>> The only one that 
>> has a Titlebar reference is "Content Link"
>>     
>
> Stop surfing so much porn!  Just kidding.
>
> It would be helpful if you said what the "pop-ups" say.  Are they 
> message boxes from the program or javascript, or are they browser window 
> pop-ups?
>
>   
Like I said, the Title bar of one of them is 'Content Link'.  They are 
mechanisms to transfer you to other places, 'links'.  When you click the 
X to close one, another opens.  It seems 4 or 5 in a row, very fast.  
Most do not have a title bar, only the one.  I don't try them, I am 
concerned that clicking on one of them will activate more.  But they 
just stop you in your tracks; you can't continue with what you are 
doing, until you close them.

The next time it happens, I will make a screen print, so I have 
something to refer to when asked your question.  Thanks for the reply.  
Each time they happen, I am in a hurry to finish what I am doing and 
just close the popups.

Steven



From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Jan  5 13:21:33 2009
From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:21:33 +0000
Subject: Can't set clock **SUCCESS**
In-Reply-To: <49615D97.1040809@tiscali.co.uk>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>	<200901041504.43593.dave@thefletchers.net>	<496122FC.5020206@tiscali.co.uk>	<200901041734.30638.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
	<49615D97.1040809@tiscali.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4962095D.1040705@tiscali.co.uk>

Wulfy wrote:
> Bruce Marshall wrote:
>> Either make it a cron job (daily)  or modify:
>>
>> /etc/ntp.conf
>>
>> to include pool.ntp.org   as a time server.
>>
>> Here's the appropriate server entries I have in  /etc/ntp.conf:
>>
>> # You do need to talk to an NTP server or two (or three).
>> #server ntp.ubuntu.com
>> server 0.pool.ntp.org
>> server 1.pool.ntp.org
>> server 2.pool.ntp.org
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> I made the changes to ntp.conf.  The daily cron job accesses ntp.conf...
>
> Thanks for your help, Bruce!  Much appreciated.  I'll report back in a 
> day or so if it's working...
>
>   

My clock is now within a second of the time I get from British 
Telecom...  used to be "Tim"..  now "Tinkerbell"!!!

Thanks for all the help I've had!  :@)

-- 
Blessings

Wulfmann

Wulf Credo:
Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack.
Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between.
Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark.
Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz




From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan  5 03:53:06 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:53:06 -0500
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <496122FC.5020206@tiscali.co.uk>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041504.43593.dave@thefletchers.net>
	<496122FC.5020206@tiscali.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200901042253.06800.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Sunday 04 January 2009, Wulfy wrote:
>David Fletcher wrote:
>> I've never installed ntpdate. I didn't know there was such a thing.
>
>ntpdate is pulled in by ubuntu-minimal.
>
>> What I'd try is removing ntpdate then install ntp (or is it ntpd? I can't
>> recall). If it needs ntpdate it should put it back.
>
>I tried removing ntpdate it would have broken ubuntu-minimal so I left
>it.  I installed ntp and it seems to have made no difference...
>
>> Then what happens is, your system will not immediately show the correct
>> time, it will very gradually adjust itself little by little. Unless you
>> reboot it, then I think it sets itself correctly right away.
>>
>> Dave
>
>Even after installing it, I get the "unable to contact time server" and
>that it can't update the time...  :@(
>
Can you 'ping pool.ntp.org'?  That will separate firewall problems from 
network problems.  Its possible your firewall is blocking the port (123, both 
udp and tcp) that ntp uses.

The ping should look like this:
# ping pool.ntp.org
PING pool.ntp.org (207.182.243.123) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from redline.mednor.net (207.182.243.123): icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=119 
ms
64 bytes from redline.mednor.net (207.182.243.123): icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=136 
ms
64 bytes from redline.mednor.net (207.182.243.123): icmp_seq=3 ttl=49 time=166 
ms
64 bytes from redline.mednor.net (207.182.243.123): icmp_seq=4 ttl=49 time=118 
ms

I hit ctrl + c here,
^C
--- pool.ntp.org ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3003ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 118.607/135.326/166.634/19.340 ms

Now, if I was to do that again, its very likely that I would get a different 
server the next time.

pool.ntp.org uses some sort of a round-robin setup to distribute the load on 
the timeservers so you usually get a different one every time you do a dns 
query.

>I even tried the old Windows First Resort as a last resort - I
>rebooted...  it made no difference.
>
>
>--
>Blessings
>
>Wulfmann
>
>Wulf Credo:
>Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack.
>Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between.
>Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark.
>Copyright July 17, 1988 by Del Goetz



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
somebody was calculating pi on the server



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 13:43:14 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:43:14 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <200901050645.23696.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901050645.23696.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <49620E72.8020206@sbcglobal.net>


>
>  Check the tools pulldown, extensions submenu,  I have (among others) 
> AdBlock-1.0, and no-script installed.  no-script can be a pita at times cuz 
> it can stop everything, but it tells you too when it does.  There are several 
> extensions, but those are the main ones.  Tools->add-ons will bring up 
> another menu with a get add-ons button, and will show you what you have now 
> along with the enabled/disabled status if its switchable.  And they are all 
> checked at startup to see if they are the latest versions, if not you have 
> the option of installing the latest right then and there, before FF even 
> opens its main window.
>
>   
Is there a way to remove the offending script?  Wouldn't that be 
better?  Or are there never scripts that are useful and beneficial?  I 
will follow your advice though; it sounds like a good solution.  Thanks 
friend.

Steven



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 13:44:38 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:44:38 +0200
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901050544ob7894e0t7cefdce5c1c2ee6e@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/5 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> I have popups coming on my screen for the first time.  They interrupt
> the thing I am doing.  It takes several clicks to get them off and they
> return fast.  I have only noticed them when using Firefox, which I
> continue to use from time to time for certain things.  Certain uses are
> much faster in firefox, but I hate unwanted interruption and will remove
> it from my machine if I can't get rid of the popups.  The only one that
> has a Titlebar reference is "Content Link".  Thanks!
>
> Steven

Can you please tell us which URLs you are browsing when the popups
occur? If you are not sure, then post a screenshot and I will take a
look.

Also, you might want to try starting a clean firefox profile and
checking if the problem still occurs:
http://support.mozilla.com/he/kb/Managing+profiles

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
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а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Mon Jan  5 13:56:45 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:56:45 -0600
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it
	stay	active	continually. **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <4961ADC5.4050709@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901030646.16789.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901030405r5f774dc9u1f717993be6861b5@mail.gmail.com>	<200901030724.28552.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901030432o54f48110tce43aa71a2aab003@mail.gmail.com>
	<4961ADC5.4050709@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4962119D.9090104@swbell.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> Thanks again to all.  I am trying to end an unending post.  The problem 
> was finally resolved by a Texas Guru, Constantinos Maltezos;  I have 
> saved the solution and will provide it for any who want it.  Just email 
> me at stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net.  I am grateful to you all.  It was 
> resolved in three pieces, but the final contribution came from 
> Constantinos.  What a strong list we have.  I wish I could contribute 
> more, but my contributions seem to be placing posts that teach well.  
> Some day I hope to join you who actually do the work.  I am so very 
> grateful to you all.
>
> Steven
>
>
>   

Steven,

E-mail threads will tend to take on a life of their own. Think of it as 
a sort of giving birth and raising the child. At birth you pose a 
question to the group. As the thread matures it is often resolved. Then, 
like a child moving on into life as an individual it's likely to move in 
directions never dreamed of. At this point the original poster no longer 
has any control, just as we have no control over an adult offspring. 
Like one of our children, just when you think it's moved on someone will 
be reading through the archives and the thread comes back again.

All anyone can do is originate a thread. There's no way to end one. Just 
let it run it's course.

-- 
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 14:03:06 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:03:06 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901050514w4e56e5dby1f1f94e17c4df1b0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>	<200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<6a61afdc0901040846t735a5767pb8627d00f06db8cc@mail.gmail.com>	<880dece00901040916i131295dgceb78eadb74f6ef7@mail.gmail.com>	<4961B9B2.1020401@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901050159j67c15287o509b094a56298a4@mail.gmail.com>	<49620685.6030502@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901050514w4e56e5dby1f1f94e17c4df1b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4962131A.7050100@sbcglobal.net>


> $ sudo kate /etc/fstab
>
> "sudo" means to do something with root privileges. Since you are
> editing a system file, you need this.
> "kate" is the name of the program that you are calling. You can use
> gedit, kedit, vim, emacs, or even notepad if you have it installed!
> "/etc/fstab" is the path to the file that you are editing.
>
> You made a good guess using the semicolon character, though.
>
>   
I used kedit and made  the change.  What was the benefit of using the 
';'?  It wasn't really an accident, other than I used that method of 
separating the code from the sentence.  Normally I would have done it 
like this 'kedit /etc/fstab'.  Did this change the mount point to 
'/media to /media/sda1'?

Cudos,
Steven



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Mon Jan  5 14:05:40 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:05:40 -0600
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <496213B4.8030301@swbell.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I have popups coming on my screen for the first time.  They interrupt 
> the thing I am doing.  It takes several clicks to get them off and they 
> return fast.  I have only noticed them when using Firefox, which I 
> continue to use from time to time for certain things.  Certain uses are 
> much faster in firefox, but I hate unwanted interruption and will remove 
> it from my machine if I can't get rid of the popups.  The only one that 
> has a Titlebar reference is "Content Link".  Thanks!
>
> Steven
>
>   

Do you have Firefox set to block pop-ups? I think it's a default 
setting, but...............

Edit > Preferences > Content

I'm sure it's a silly question but some one has to ask the silly ones.

-- 
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 14:10:42 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:10:42 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901050544ob7894e0t7cefdce5c1c2ee6e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901050544ob7894e0t7cefdce5c1c2ee6e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496214E2.2090603@sbcglobal.net>

Can you please tell us which URLs you are browsing when the popups
> occur? If you are not sure, then post a screenshot and I will take a
> look.
>
> Also, you might want to try starting a clean firefox profile and
> checking if the problem still occurs:
> http://support.mozilla.com/he/kb/Managing+profiles
>   
This is going to sound stupid, but I am not browsing at the time and 
don't understand why it is happening.  I am answering an email usually.  
At first I thought it was something that came in updates, but it doesn't 
make any sense.  It screws up the work I am doing having an 
interruption, and only the one popup has a Titlebar.  The rest have 
several boxes to click on to take you somewhere else.  I have never 
tried the link, because I am not sure that wouldn't increase the 
problem, just because I attempted to use their program.

As far as a clean install, I have been considering removing Firefox and 
Thunderbird.  I want to be KDE exclusive, so that I can start taking 
advantage of all its benefits.  As long as I have the old friends 
working, I have a tendency to use them from time to time.  One reason 
is, a torrent site I use works faster in Firefox that in Konqueror.
Thanks!

Steven




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 14:14:55 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:14:55 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have
	it	stay	active	continually. **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <4962119D.9090104@swbell.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901030646.16789.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901030405r5f774dc9u1f717993be6861b5@mail.gmail.com>	<200901030724.28552.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901030432o54f48110tce43aa71a2aab003@mail.gmail.com>	<4961ADC5.4050709@sbcglobal.net>
	<4962119D.9090104@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <496215DF.1010308@sbcglobal.net>

Billie Walsh wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>   
>> Thanks again to all.  I am trying to end an unending post.  The problem 
>> was finally resolved by a Texas Guru, Constantinos Maltezos;  I have 
>> saved the solution and will provide it for any who want it.  Just email 
>> me at stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net.  I am grateful to you all.  It was 
>> resolved in three pieces, but the final contribution came from 
>> Constantinos.  What a strong list we have.  I wish I could contribute 
>> more, but my contributions seem to be placing posts that teach well.  
>> Some day I hope to join you who actually do the work.  I am so very 
>> grateful to you all.
>>
>> Steven
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> Steven,
>
> E-mail threads will tend to take on a life of their own. Think of it as 
> a sort of giving birth and raising the child. At birth you pose a 
> question to the group. As the thread matures it is often resolved. Then, 
> like a child moving on into life as an individual it's likely to move in 
> directions never dreamed of. At this point the original poster no longer 
> has any control, just as we have no control over an adult offspring. 
> Like one of our children, just when you think it's moved on someone will 
> be reading through the archives and the thread comes back again.
>
> All anyone can do is originate a thread. There's no way to end one. Just 
> let it run it's course.
>
>   
Dear Billie,

In the past, someone complained about my post length and having to read 
the same things over and over.  I have wanted to be in harmony with the 
desire of the List, as far as use is concerned.  That is why I attempted 
to end the post.  I believe I understand.  So if the post evolves, no 
one will think that it is I who am keeping it alive after the problem is 
solved.  Thanks.  I just don't want to offend my favorite source for help.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 14:17:11 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:17:11 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <496213B4.8030301@swbell.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net> <496213B4.8030301@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <49621667.2030303@sbcglobal.net>


> Do you have Firefox set to block pop-ups? I think it's a default 
> setting, but...............
>
> Edit > Preferences > Content
>
> I'm sure it's a silly question but some one has to ask the silly ones.
>   
Yes.  The only thing is that these popups are happening during the reply 
of a 'List Post'.  It is very annoying.

Steven




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 14:27:38 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:27:38 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901050159j67c15287o509b094a56298a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>	<200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<6a61afdc0901040846t735a5767pb8627d00f06db8cc@mail.gmail.com>	<880dece00901040916i131295dgceb78eadb74f6ef7@mail.gmail.com>	<4961B9B2.1020401@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901050159j67c15287o509b094a56298a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496218DA.6000504@sbcglobal.net>


> /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
>
> The difference is in the second option, I changed it from "/media" to
> "/media/sda1".
>
>   
I think I screwed up.  I opened the GUI  to look at the partitions in 
Disk&Filesystems.  I expected to find sda1 with a mount point of 
/media/sda1.  It showed as /media/sdb1 instead of /media/sda1.  I then 
opened the Konsole and entered sudo kedit /media/sdb2  to try to get to 
that error.  This is what came on the Konsole:

steven at Studio25:~$ sudo kedit /media/sdb1
[sudo] password for steven:
Error: "/tmp/kde-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.

kedit opened to a blank page and in the title bar it reads /media/sdb1 - 
KEdit <2>, like I have two KEdit windows open.

I want to go back and edit the mount point as /media/sda1.

Steven





From dotancohen at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 14:30:24 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:30:24 +0200
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <49620E72.8020206@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901050645.23696.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<49620E72.8020206@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901050630y6bece196w5f167f128d2ab715@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/5 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> Is there a way to remove the offending script?  Wouldn't that be
> better?  Or are there never scripts that are useful and beneficial?  I
> will follow your advice though; it sounds like a good solution.  Thanks
> friend.
>
> Steven
>

The problem with removing the "offending script" is that there are
malicious scripts out there, which may harm you only after you have
run it. Otherwise you would not know that it is malicious! That said,
I find NoScript to be too intrusive for everyday browsing. But if you
can live with it, then great!

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
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ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 14:31:10 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:31:10 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	active	continually.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901050159j67c15287o509b094a56298a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>	<200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<6a61afdc0901040846t735a5767pb8627d00f06db8cc@mail.gmail.com>	<880dece00901040916i131295dgceb78eadb74f6ef7@mail.gmail.com>	<4961B9B2.1020401@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901050159j67c15287o509b094a56298a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496219AE.4040601@sbcglobal.net>


> ,nosuid 0 0
>
> The difference is in the second option, I changed it from "/media" to
> "/media/sda1".
>
>   
I was able to correct the sdb1 error myself.  I opened a terminal and 
typed in sudo kedit /etc/fstab and got the right page.  I then just 
changed the one letter that was in error, saved and closed.  Sorry to 
bother you with that last email.

Steven



From jonorland at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 14:31:42 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:31:42 +0100
Subject: Problem playing a DVD
In-Reply-To: <200901050656.26907.michael@weblore.com>
References: <200901050617.40730.michael@weblore.com>
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2009/1/5 Michael Satterwhite <michael at weblore.com>:
> On Monday 05 January 2009 06:24:24 am Jonas Norlander wrote:
>> 2009/1/5 Michael Satterwhite <michael at weblore.com>:
>> > I have a DVD that I'd like to be able to play on my system. When I look
>> > at the directory structure on it, I find that the VIDEO_TS directory
>> > doesn't have execute permission ... IOW I can't list the contents. I have
>> > libdvd installed, but I'm not sure how to get past this problem.
>> >
>> > Can anyone offer any help?
>>
>> You don't need to mount a DVD-Video to play it (same for Audio CD).
>> Just pop it in the reader and choose play DVD in Kaffeine. If the DVD
>> is encrypted you need the libdvdcss2 library from the
>> http://www.medibuntu.org/ repository read up on there site how to add
>> it.
>
> That would be great ... if Kaffeine actually worked (at least in my
> installation - I'm sure it's working properly in yours). My DVD drive
> is /dev/scd0. For whatever reason Kaffeine insists on trying to open sdb5 -
> which has nothing on it. I do have libdvdcss2 installed. If I could open the
> directory, I could manually select the video file to play. As it is, it's
> Kaffeine is unusable with this DVD.
>

Kaffeine is using Xine as its backend. You can change the Xines
settings that Kaffeine using. Go to Kaffeine>Settings>Xine
settings>Media and there change the dvd.device option to what ever
device you are using. I have mine set to /dev/dvd that is a symlink to
my dvd device /dev/scd0. It could be that you are suffering from the
"Upgrade to Hardy removed my dvd symlinks bug" that i reported when
upgraded to Hardy. Look at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/223534 for a
description and solution.

/ Jonas



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 14:33:24 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:33:24 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <4962131A.7050100@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<6a61afdc0901040846t735a5767pb8627d00f06db8cc@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00901040916i131295dgceb78eadb74f6ef7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4961B9B2.1020401@sbcglobal.net>
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	<4962131A.7050100@sbcglobal.net>
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2009/1/5 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> I used kedit and made  the change.  What was the benefit of using the
> ';'?

The ; symbol separates commands. So it was not the right thing to put
where you did. I just mentioned that it was a good guess because at
least you _tried_ something!

> It wasn't really an accident, other than I used that method of
> separating the code from the sentence.  Normally I would have done it
> like this 'kedit /etc/fstab'.  Did this change the mount point to
> '/media to /media/sda1'?
>

Yes, exactly, it changed the mount point. Mounting the partition on
/media would have hidden other things that were mounted in that place
beforehand. But in any case that partition is not automatically
mounted (it has the "noauto" option set) so it was not affecting your
system.

You are learning fast!

-- 
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http://gibberish.co.il

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From dotancohen at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 14:33:50 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:33:50 +0200
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay active
	continually.
In-Reply-To: <496219AE.4040601@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901030319.03208.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901030031y5f30335bu471cc824ad5acd52@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901030347.38451.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<6a61afdc0901040846t735a5767pb8627d00f06db8cc@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00901040916i131295dgceb78eadb74f6ef7@mail.gmail.com>
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	<496219AE.4040601@sbcglobal.net>
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2009/1/5 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> I was able to correct the sdb1 error myself.  I opened a terminal and
> typed in sudo kedit /etc/fstab and got the right page.  I then just
> changed the one letter that was in error, saved and closed.  Sorry to
> bother you with that last email.
>

That's fine, this is how it is when one learns!

-- 
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http://what-is-what.com
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From jonorland at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 14:38:20 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:38:20 +0100
Subject: K3b ripping problem
In-Reply-To: <49616A5F.6070602@gmail.com>
References: <200901042301.35263.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<4961496F.9060903@lemmons.name> <49616A5F.6070602@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901050638i7f8e9b10k29fca433305b7d64@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/5 Art Alexion <art.alexion at gmail.com>:
> On 01/04/2009 Paul Lemmons wrote:
>> sudo apt-get install lame
>>
>
> Its
>
> sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
>
> while you are at it, you may also want to install libk3b2-extracodecs.
>

The OP don't say what Kubuntu version hes running. On my Intrepid i
got this package:
jonas at intrepid-amd9650:~$ apt-cache search libk3b
libk3b-dev - The KDE cd burning application library - development files
libk3b3 - The KDE cd burning application library - runtime files
libk3b3-extracodecs - The KDE cd burning application library - extra decoders
libk3b2-extracodecs - transitional package for K3b's extra decoders

libk3b2-extracodecs is a dummy package depending on libk3b3-extracodecs.

/ Jonas



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 14:40:31 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:40:31 +0200
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <496214E2.2090603@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901050544ob7894e0t7cefdce5c1c2ee6e@mail.gmail.com>
	<496214E2.2090603@sbcglobal.net>
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2009/1/5 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> This is going to sound stupid, but I am not browsing at the time and
> don't understand why it is happening.  I am answering an email usually.
> At first I thought it was something that came in updates, but it doesn't
> make any sense.  It screws up the work I am doing having an
> interruption, and only the one popup has a Titlebar.  The rest have
> several boxes to click on to take you somewhere else.  I have never
> tried the link, because I am not sure that wouldn't increase the
> problem, just because I attempted to use their program.
>

Then please post a screenshot. If it contains confidential information
you can blot that out in kolourpaint. If you do not want to make it
public you can send it to me personally.

> As far as a clean install, I have been considering removing Firefox and
> Thunderbird.  I want to be KDE exclusive, so that I can start taking
> advantage of all its benefits.

While Kmail really is a great email client, Konqueror is not yet as
good a web browser as Firefox. I suggest that you start browsing in
Konqueror and keep Firefox around for when you need it. And mention
problems here, so that we can file bugs!

> As long as I have the old friends
> working, I have a tendency to use them from time to time.  One reason
> is, a torrent site I use works faster in Firefox that in Konqueror.

What site is that? I will test and file a bug.

-- 
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 14:53:00 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 09:53:00 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901050640k50d48025xa13bba1d4df9bdf0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net> <496214E2.2090603@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901050640k50d48025xa13bba1d4df9bdf0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901050953.01221.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Then please post a screenshot. If it contains confidential information
> you can blot that out in kolourpaint. If you do not want to make it
> public you can send it to me personally.
Other than my passwords for internet connection security, I really don't have 
anything in my computer that I would not want seen by the List.  Other than 
that, I have been told not to post screen prints because they contain so much 
data.  When it happens, I will post to your email address.  
> While Kmail really is a great email client, Konqueror is not yet as
> good a web browser as Firefox. I suggest that you start browsing in
> Konqueror and keep Firefox around for when you need it. And mention
> problems here, so that we can file bugs!
I will do as you suggest.
> What site is that? I will test and file a bug.
mininova.com, for one.  In response to your last 'off list' comment, I include 
Gaza now too.  I will try to remember to do that daily.  Thanks.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 16:10:44 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:10:44 -0500
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
Message-ID: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I tried this in the console (what I want to do is install webmin):

steven at Studio25:~$ sudo install  
file:///home/steven/Desktop/usermin_1.370_all.deb
install: missing destination file operand after 
`file:///home/steven/Desktop/usermin_1.370_all.deb'
Try `install --help' for more information.
steven at Studio25:~$

I have used Adept Package Manager and Synaptic to install packages.  I have 
used apt-get install.  But when I downloaded this package and put it on the 
Desktop, I was unable to install it.  What do I do?  Thanks.

I also tried the help option, but was unable to understand how to use what I 
read.

Steven




From kassube at gmx.net  Mon Jan  5 15:50:29 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:50:29 +0100
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	=?iso-8859-1?q?active=09continually=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <4961BA1F.7050607@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901041850.15632.kassube@gmx.net>
	<4961BA1F.7050607@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901051650.29260.kassube@gmx.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> > That's a good point. It depends on what you call "a problem" for
> > other mount points. If sda1 is mounted first, the new devices will be
> > mounted below /media on sda1. If sda1 is mounted later, those devices
> > which were mounted before sda1 are on /media on the root device
> > (sdb1). However these devices will not be visible any longer after
> > sda1 is mounted. This situation is certainly not wanted but the mount
> > operation wouldn't fail. Anyway, the only time the mount operation
> > would fail is when there is no appropriate directory for the new
> > device at mount time.
>
> I am unable to understand this part.  I will keep studying though.

OK, I'll try to explain:

According to your fstab you would mount sda1 to /media. Furthermore you 
have sda5 at /media/sda5, sda7 at /media/sda7 and sdb5 at /media/sdb5. 
However sda5 and sda7 would be mounted at startup while sda1 and sdb5 
would be mounted only manually on demand. So if you don't mount sda1 or 
sdb5 you could see /media/sda5 and /media/sda7. Now if you mount sda1 it 
would hide sda5 and sda7 because now only the directory structure of sda1 
can be seen below /media. That is a problem for you if you want to access 
the data on sda5 or sda7 but it is not a problem for the mount command.

From other posts I know that you have changed your fstab entry for sda1 
meanwhile, so it is no longer a problem to see your data on sda5 and sda7 
even if you mount sda1.


Nils



From tycho at tycho.ws  Mon Jan  5 16:19:58 2009
From: tycho at tycho.ws (Tycho Andersen)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 10:19:58 -0600
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49b3a7400901050819x5ea51907uab5185878e4ac378@mail.gmail.com>

Steven:

I think what you may be looking for is something like this:

sudo dpkg -i /home/steven/Desktop/usermin_1.370_all.deb

dpkg is the tool behind Aptitude, apt-get, Adept, Synaptec, etc. The -i
option tells dpkg to install the package.

Tycho

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Steven Vollom
<stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> I tried this in the console (what I want to do is install webmin):
>
> steven at Studio25:~$ sudo install
> file:///home/steven/Desktop/usermin_1.370_all.deb
> install: missing destination file operand after
> `file:///home/steven/Desktop/usermin_1.370_all.deb'
> Try `install --help' for more information.
> steven at Studio25:~$
>
> I have used Adept Package Manager and Synaptic to install packages.  I have
> used apt-get install.  But when I downloaded this package and put it on the
> Desktop, I was unable to install it.  What do I do?  Thanks.
>
> I also tried the help option, but was unable to understand how to use what
> I
> read.
>
> Steven
>
>
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From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 16:27:02 2009
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 02:27:02 +1000
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901060227.05809.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 02:10:44 am Steven Vollom wrote:
> steven at Studio25:~$ sudo install  
> file:///home/steven/Desktop/usermin_1.370_all.deb

.deb files aren't installed using install :)

They're debian package files installed using the package manager (dpkg).

try:
  sudo dpkg -i /home/steven/Desktop/usermin_1.370_all.deb


Cheers,

  
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From dotancohen at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 16:27:12 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:27:12 +0200
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <200901050953.01221.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net> <496214E2.2090603@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901050640k50d48025xa13bba1d4df9bdf0@mail.gmail.com>
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2009/1/5 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
>> What site is that? I will test and file a bug.
> mininova.com, for one.

Interesting. I just tried on KDE 3 and on Konqueror it was _much_
faster than Firefox. I am really surprised by how fast it was. I will
retest on KDE 4 when I get a chance.

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From michael at weblore.com  Mon Jan  5 16:55:00 2009
From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 10:55:00 -0600
Subject: Problem playing a DVD
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901050631jdf8080xe0d66a0d7358edbf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901050617.40730.michael@weblore.com>
	<200901050656.26907.michael@weblore.com>
	<b8d784880901050631jdf8080xe0d66a0d7358edbf@mail.gmail.com>
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On Monday 05 January 2009 08:31:42 am Jonas Norlander wrote:
> 2009/1/5 Michael Satterwhite <michael at weblore.com>:
> > On Monday 05 January 2009 06:24:24 am Jonas Norlander wrote:
> >> 2009/1/5 Michael Satterwhite <michael at weblore.com>:
> >> > I have a DVD that I'd like to be able to play on my system. When I
> >> > look at the directory structure on it, I find that the VIDEO_TS
> >> > directory doesn't have execute permission ... IOW I can't list the
> >> > contents. I have libdvd installed, but I'm not sure how to get past
> >> > this problem.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone offer any help?
> >>
> >> You don't need to mount a DVD-Video to play it (same for Audio CD).
> >> Just pop it in the reader and choose play DVD in Kaffeine. If the DVD
> >> is encrypted you need the libdvdcss2 library from the
> >> http://www.medibuntu.org/ repository read up on there site how to add
> >> it.
> >
> > That would be great ... if Kaffeine actually worked (at least in my
> > installation - I'm sure it's working properly in yours). My DVD drive
> > is /dev/scd0. For whatever reason Kaffeine insists on trying to open sdb5
> > - which has nothing on it. I do have libdvdcss2 installed. If I could
> > open the directory, I could manually select the video file to play. As it
> > is, it's Kaffeine is unusable with this DVD.
>
> Kaffeine is using Xine as its backend. You can change the Xines
> settings that Kaffeine using. Go to Kaffeine>Settings>Xine
> settings>Media and there change the dvd.device option to what ever
> device you are using. I have mine set to /dev/dvd that is a symlink to
> my dvd device /dev/scd0. It could be that you are suffering from the
> "Upgrade to Hardy removed my dvd symlinks bug" that i reported when
> upgraded to Hardy. Look at
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/223534 for a
> description and solution.

Apparently I'd been bitten by the bug and didn't know it. Problem solved. 
Thanks.




From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan  5 17:04:05 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:04:05 -0500
Subject: Problem playing a DVD
In-Reply-To: <200901050656.26907.michael@weblore.com>
References: <200901050617.40730.michael@weblore.com>
	<b8d784880901050424q6d3568c5p1085d6bcf3dd7d5c@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901050656.26907.michael@weblore.com>
Message-ID: <200901051204.05918.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 05 January 2009, Michael Satterwhite wrote:
>On Monday 05 January 2009 06:24:24 am Jonas Norlander wrote:
>> 2009/1/5 Michael Satterwhite <michael at weblore.com>:
>> > I have a DVD that I'd like to be able to play on my system. When I look
>> > at the directory structure on it, I find that the VIDEO_TS directory
>> > doesn't have execute permission ... IOW I can't list the contents. I
>> > have libdvd installed, but I'm not sure how to get past this problem.
>> >
>> > Can anyone offer any help?
>>
>> You don't need to mount a DVD-Video to play it (same for Audio CD).
>> Just pop it in the reader and choose play DVD in Kaffeine. If the DVD
>> is encrypted you need the libdvdcss2 library from the
>> http://www.medibuntu.org/ repository read up on there site how to add
>> it.
>
>That would be great ... if Kaffeine actually worked (at least in my
>installation - I'm sure it's working properly in yours). My DVD drive
>is /dev/scd0. For whatever reason Kaffeine insists on trying to open sdb5 -
>which has nothing on it. I do have libdvdcss2 installed. If I could open the
>directory, I could manually select the video file to play. As it is, it's
>Kaffeine is unusable with this DVD.

I had some trouble with kaffeine here, and finally built 0.8.7, which although 
not terrible stable watching tv using the xine engine (gstreamer isn't 
supported by my video card yet), I had no trouble playing a cd with it just 
now, and that cd, a 2 disk set, has a dvd of one song too, and it, when I 
click on the open dvd button, plays nicely.  I checked in my 
~/.kde/share/config/kaffeinerc, and the drive is not specified.

So you may want to try a newer kaffeine.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
You now have Asian Flu.



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan  5 17:06:39 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:06:39 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it
	=?iso-8859-1?q?stay=09active?= continually.
In-Reply-To: <49620685.6030502@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901050159j67c15287o509b094a56298a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49620685.6030502@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901051206.39147.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 05 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>> I means that there is an irresponsible entry in your fstab file. But
>> do not worry, in your normal usage it will not affect you because the
>> partition is not automatically mounted, and I know from conversations
>> with you that you do not mount that partition. If you are inclined to
>> fix it then change this line:
>> /dev/sda1 /media ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
>> To this:
>> /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
>>
>> The difference is in the second option, I changed it from "/media" to
>> "/media/sda1".
>
>Dear Dotan,
>
>If I recall correctly, I need to enter the fstab file in a special way
>so that I can modify it.  When one of the tasks was performed in the
>recent past, I lost all my saved email records.  I lost the email that
>had the instruction to get into fstab in a way that I could modify it.
>I tried kate; /root/etc/fstab, I tried kate; /etc/fstab.  Is Kate the
>wrong text editor?
>
Kate should be fine Steven, although I don't like it personally, but its 
(fstab) owned by root, so you'll need to use 'sudo kate /etc/fstab' to edit 
it.

>It was a significant loss, my email records, I had code for all my
>repairs in there, including how to edit fstab.  Please help once again.
>I will save it again.  Additionally, I will purchase a thumb drive and
>copy all future code instructions to it.  Thanks and sorry for having to
>ask again.
>
>Steven



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
"Don't discount flying pigs before you have good air defense."
-- jvh at clinet.FI



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan  5 17:09:32 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:09:32 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <49620E72.8020206@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901050645.23696.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<49620E72.8020206@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901051209.32672.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 05 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>>  Check the tools pulldown, extensions submenu,  I have (among others)
>> AdBlock-1.0, and no-script installed.  no-script can be a pita at times
>> cuz it can stop everything, but it tells you too when it does.  There are
>> several extensions, but those are the main ones.  Tools->add-ons will
>> bring up another menu with a get add-ons button, and will show you what
>> you have now along with the enabled/disabled status if its switchable. 
>> And they are all checked at startup to see if they are the latest
>> versions, if not you have the option of installing the latest right then
>> and there, before FF even opens its main window.
>
>Is there a way to remove the offending script?

That would be javascript or java itself, and the only way to stop it if they 
are enabled, is no-script, or not visit sites that cause the popups.  Let it 
install the extension, then you have real control over that stuffs.

>Wouldn't that be 
>better?  Or are there never scripts that are useful and beneficial?  I
>will follow your advice though; it sounds like a good solution.  Thanks
>friend.
>
>Steven



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Are Linux users lemmings collectively jumping off of the cliff of
reliable, well-engineered commercial software?
	-- Matt Welsh



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan  5 17:31:56 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:31:56 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it
	=?iso-8859-1?q?stay=09active?= continually.
In-Reply-To: <496218DA.6000504@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901050159j67c15287o509b094a56298a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<496218DA.6000504@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901051231.56053.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 05 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>> /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
>>
>> The difference is in the second option, I changed it from "/media" to
>> "/media/sda1".
>
>I think I screwed up.  I opened the GUI  to look at the partitions in
>Disk&Filesystems.  I expected to find sda1 with a mount point of
>/media/sda1.  It showed as /media/sdb1 instead of /media/sda1.  I then
>opened the Konsole and entered sudo kedit /media/sdb2  to try to get to
>that error.  This is what came on the Konsole:
>
>steven at Studio25:~$ sudo kedit /media/sdb1
>[sudo] password for steven:
>Error: "/tmp/kde-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
>
>kedit opened to a blank page and in the title bar it reads /media/sdb1 -
>KEdit <2>, like I have two KEdit windows open.

Oops, close that without saving.

>I want to go back and edit the mount point as /media/sda1.

A 'mount point' is nothing more nor less than a directory.  If there is 
nothing in it, it can be removed with an 'rmdir', see the manpage.

If there is something in that directory, probably because something was stored 
there when no media was mounted, then if its precious, mv (see the manpage) 
it to someplace safe.

Now, please understand that if I had a /media/westernsteer directory, I can 
mount any partition visible to the system on that mount point with the mount 
command.

Demo (all as root or sudo'd, and the # sign is the shell prompt, no pound sign 
its the response to the command:

# mkdir /media/westernsteer
# df
(and get:)
Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb3            468832020  97119656 347512852  22% /
/dev/sdb1               194442     81057    103346  44% /boot
/dev/sdc1            384578164 298590648  66452076  82% /amandatapes
tmpfs                  2075600         0   2075600   0% /dev/shm

The above to verify where my /boot is (this box is an odd bird), then

# mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/westernsteer
# ls /media/westernsteer
config-2.6.25.14-69.fc8  initrd-2.6.25.14-69.fc8.img  memdisk                      
System.map-2.6.27-rc4     vmlinuz-2.6.26.5-28.fc8
config-2.6.26.3-14.fc8   initrd-2.6.26.3-14.fc8.img   System.map                   
System.map-2.6.27-rc5     vmlinuz-2.6.26.6-49.fc8
config-2.6.26.5-28.fc8   initrd-2.6.26.5-28.fc8.img   
System.map-2.6.25.14-69.fc8  System.map-2.6.27-rc6     vmlinuz-2.6.27.2
config-2.6.26.6-49.fc8   initrd-2.6.26.6-49.fc8.img   System.map-2.6.26            
System.map-2.6.27-rc7     vmlinuz-2.6.27.3
config-2.6.26.gz         initrd-2.6.26.img            
System.map-2.6.26.3-14.fc8   System.map-2.6.27-rc7-4   vmlinuz-2.6.27-4
config-2.6.27.2.gz       initrd-2.6.27.2.img          
System.map-2.6.26.5-28.fc8   System.map-2.6.27-rc8     vmlinuz-2.6.27.4
config-2.6.27.3.gz       initrd-2.6.27.3.img          
System.map-2.6.26.6-49.fc8   System.map-2.6.27-rc8-4   vmlinuz-2.6.27.5
config-2.6.27-4.gz       initrd-2.6.27-4.img          System.map-2.6.27.2          
System.map-2.6.27-rc9-4   vmlinuz-2.6.27.6
config-2.6.27.4.gz       initrd-2.6.27.4.img          System.map-2.6.27.3          
System.map-2.6.28         vmlinuz-2.6.28
config-2.6.27.5.gz       initrd-2.6.27.5.img          System.map-2.6.27-4          
System.map-2.6.28.old
config-2.6.27.6.gz       initrd-2.6.27.6.img          System.map-2.6.27.4          
vmlinuz-2.6.25.14-69.fc8
config-2.6.28.gz         initrd-2.6.28.img            System.map-2.6.27.5          
vmlinuz-2.6.26
grub                     lost+found                   System.map-2.6.27.6          
vmlinuz-2.6.26.3-14.fc8

It is in fact, my /boot partition, mounted someplace else.  Now, clean up the 
mess I just made:

# umount /media/westernsteer
# rmdir /media/westernsteer
# ls /media/westernsteer
ls: cannot access /media/westernsteer: No such file or directory

Does this help your understanding of how this works?

>Steven



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
QOTD:
	"I don't think they could put him in a mental hospital.  On the
	other hand, if he were already in, I don't think they'd let him out."



From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com  Mon Jan  5 17:52:58 2009
From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham Todd)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:52:58 +0000
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <200901051209.32672.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901050645.23696.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<49620E72.8020206@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051209.32672.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20090105175258.6a7fb44f@graham-desktop>

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:09:32 -0500
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net> wrote:

> That would be javascript or java itself, and the only way to stop it
> if they are enabled, is no-script, or not visit sites that cause the
> popups.  Let it install the extension, then you have real control
> over that stuffs.
[snipped]

I'd advocate installing privoxy as well, and a decent hosts file (such
as that found at http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm ).

-- 
Graham Todd



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Mon Jan  5 19:03:03 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:03:03 +0100
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <49b3a7400901050819x5ea51907uab5185878e4ac378@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49b3a7400901050819x5ea51907uab5185878e4ac378@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gjtlh9$i0s$1@ger.gmane.org>

Tycho Andersen wrote:
> Steven:
> 
> I think what you may be looking for is something like this:
> 
> sudo dpkg -i /home/steven/Desktop/usermin_1.370_all.deb
> 
absolutely correct: OTH I am assuming that Steven most probably wants to 
be prepared for potentially installing "nearly anything that Linux can 
do". For this, usermin is NOT the tool of choice.

For this you need to download and install WEBMIN.

so
sudo dpkg -i /home/steven/Desktop/webmin_1.441_all.deb

is, what will most probably do the trick.

Kind regards
Eberhard




From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  5 19:12:50 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:12:50 -0600
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have 
	=?iso-8859-1?q?it=09stay=09active=09continually=2E?= **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <496215DF.1010308@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4962119D.9090104@swbell.net> <496215DF.1010308@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901051312.51542.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Monday 05 January 2009 8:14:55 am Steven Vollom wrote:
> In the past, someone complained about my post length and having to read
> the same things over and over.  I have wanted to be in harmony with the
> desire of the List, as far as use is concerned.  That is why I attempted
> to end the post.  I believe I understand.  So if the post evolves, no
> one will think that it is I who am keeping it alive after the problem is
> solved.  Thanks.  I just don't want to offend my favorite source for help.

Post length refers to the message inside the post, not the number of posts in 
the thread.  Notice how I snipped out all of the text I was not responding to 
in this one?  They had no direct bearing on what I want to say and if anyone 
needs the reference, they have copies of the previous emails they can look at.

If someone were to reply to this to comment on something I am saying, they may 
choose to leave the part I've left quoted as well as my new part because they 
want to refer to both texts, or they may snip out your part that I quoted 
because they only want to respond to what I said.  If someone responds to that 
person, they make the same decision.

It gets confusing to see quoted message after quoted message when some of it 
can be trimmed without losing any pertinent information and all the extraneous 
information is just that - extraneous.  So it requires more effort to get to 
the new part when you've already gotten the gist of the old part.



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Mon Jan  5 20:20:59 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:20:59 -0400
Subject: Can't set clock
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk> <vsb836-a3s.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<4961F575.3040507@gmail.com>
	<200901050724.36503.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <bm6a36-6om.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Gene Heskett wrote:

>>I managed by typing:
>>sudo ntpdate oceania.pool.ntp.org
>>and that is also the timeserver I have set the "systray" clock to use
> 
> And you are beating on a single machine, remove the 'oceania.' part and
> let the ntp dns server spread the load.

No, he's not.  The regional time servers are also using round robin DNS - 
it's just a smaller pool than pool.ntp.org.  I would think if "oceania" is 
your region, the latency in getting to many of the large servers might 
interfere with getting a reliable time setting (though I know the ntp 
protocol tries very hard to take care of that).




From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan  5 20:51:21 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:51:21 -0500
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <bm6a36-6om.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901050724.36503.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<bm6a36-6om.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <200901051551.21509.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 05 January 2009, Derek Broughton wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>I managed by typing:
>>>sudo ntpdate oceania.pool.ntp.org
>>>and that is also the timeserver I have set the "systray" clock to use
>>
>> And you are beating on a single machine, remove the 'oceania.' part and
>> let the ntp dns server spread the load.
>
>No, he's not.  The regional time servers are also using round robin DNS -
>it's just a smaller pool than pool.ntp.org.  I would think if "oceania" is
>your region, the latency in getting to many of the large servers might
>interfere with getting a reliable time setting (though I know the ntp
>protocol tries very hard to take care of that).

Thanks for the heads up on regional servers.  How do I go about getting such a 
list for my own use?

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Your own qualities will help prevent your advancement in the world.



From jonorland at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 21:06:56 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:06:56 +0100
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <200901051551.21509.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901050724.36503.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<bm6a36-6om.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901051551.21509.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901051306g246d37f7v7647a9375fbeaf71@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/5 Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net>:
> On Monday 05 January 2009, Derek Broughton wrote:
>>Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>I managed by typing:
>>>>sudo ntpdate oceania.pool.ntp.org
>>>>and that is also the timeserver I have set the "systray" clock to use
>>>
>>> And you are beating on a single machine, remove the 'oceania.' part and
>>> let the ntp dns server spread the load.
>>
>>No, he's not.  The regional time servers are also using round robin DNS -
>>it's just a smaller pool than pool.ntp.org.  I would think if "oceania" is
>>your region, the latency in getting to many of the large servers might
>>interfere with getting a reliable time setting (though I know the ntp
>>protocol tries very hard to take care of that).
>
> Thanks for the heads up on regional servers.  How do I go about getting such a
> list for my own use?
>

As i wrote in a previous mail in this thread you can get a list of
servers close to you from
http://www.pool.ntp.org/zone/

/ Jonas



From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr  Mon Jan  5 21:09:10 2009
From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:09:10 +0100
Subject: Problem loading java applet with Firefox, but loads using Opera
Message-ID: <200901052209.11579.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr>

I'm having problems with Firefox on some Java sites, not being able to 
load/initialise java applets. That is with the Java version available from 
the repo. This isn't only on Kubuntu Intrepid, but also on Debian, and 
Fedora, which have their own java packages. If I download, and install Sun's 
JRE, there is no problem with these sites. Example site below.

http://www.jigzone.com

The java test applet runs ok on Firefox, but not the jigsaw applet. Link to 
java test applet below.

http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml

The jigsaw applet will load ok with Opera, but I do have to set a specific 
java path in Opera.

Opera's plugins list the GCJ Web Browser Plugin 0.96.1, but the default java 
path in Opera is insufficient. The path I have to set is below, and is 
accessable by going to Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Content > Java 
Options, and replacing the existing line with the one below.

/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386

You need to restart Opera, after changing the Java path, then try the site 
above again.

Would anyone who has java installed (not Sun's Java), and Opera, like to try 
out what I've set out above, just to verify my experience.

I expect Firefox to not load/initialise the applet from www.jigzone.com, but 
Opera with the correct Java path to load, and display the jigsaw applet.

I suspect that /etc/alternatives has something to do with why Firefox cannot 
load the applet, and I can't find a way to specify a path to java in 
Firefox's about:config, whereas in Opera I can specify a direct path to java, 
bypassing /etc/alternatives.

This is all a bit academic, as the easiest route is to just install Sun's JRE, 
which works fine.

Any suggestions as to how to get the jigsaw applet displaying on Firefox, with 
the Java version available from the Ubuntu repo, will be very gratefully 
received.

Just passing the time, and trying to resolve a long running problem.

Nigel.







From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 21:28:10 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:28:10 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it stay
	=?iso-8859-1?q?active=09continually=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <200901051650.29260.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4961BA1F.7050607@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051650.29260.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901051628.10661.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> From other posts I know that you have changed your fstab entry for sda1
> meanwhile, so it is no longer a problem to see your data on sda5 and sda7
> even if you mount sda1.
Thanks Nils, I believe I understand now.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 21:36:12 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:36:12 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it
	=?iso-8859-1?q?stay=09active?= continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901051206.39147.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49620685.6030502@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051206.39147.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901051636.12571.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Kate should be fine Steven, although I don't like it personally, but its
> (fstab) owned by root, so you'll need to use 'sudo kate /etc/fstab' to edit
> it.
Actually I am using kedit.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 21:46:13 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:46:13 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it
	=?iso-8859-1?q?stay=09active?= continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901051231.56053.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496218DA.6000504@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051231.56053.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901051646.13323.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> >kedit opened to a blank page and in the title bar it reads /media/sdb1 -
> >KEdit <2>, like I have two KEdit windows open.
>
> Oops, close that without saving.
This is a while ago, and I cannot remember what I did, but if I were to guess, 
I probably saved before I closed.  Is there a way to check that?
> Now, please understand that if I had a /media/westernsteer directory, I can
> mount any partition visible to the system on that mount point with the
> mount command.
I don't understand what this paragraph means.
> Does this help your understanding of how this works?
Actually, some of it I recognize, but the acronyms are not understood yet; it 
is kind of like looking at a bunch of puzzle pieces right now.  I have not 
gotten that far yet in my understanding.  But thanks.  I will look into it.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 21:51:48 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:51:48 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have
	=?iso-8859-1?q?it=09stay=09active=09continually=2E?= **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <200901051312.51542.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496215DF.1010308@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051312.51542.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901051651.48215.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> extraneous information is just that - extraneous.  So it requires more
> effort to get to the new part when you've already gotten the gist of the
> old part.
Thanks, I now understand the why.  My replies are that way, aren't they?

Steven





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 21:56:21 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:56:21 -0500
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <gjtlh9$i0s$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49b3a7400901050819x5ea51907uab5185878e4ac378@mail.gmail.com>
	<gjtlh9$i0s$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200901051656.21803.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Monday 05 January 2009 14:03:03 Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> sudo dpkg -i /home/steven/Desktop/webmin_1.441_all.deb

When I downloaded the other package, they suggested it was webmin in their 
explanation of the download and that it included usermin.  Does that seem 
possible?  When I typed in what you said, it couldn't find the package, 
because I did not download the package with webmin in the description.  What 
do I do now?  I did not see the webmin option on the download site.

I will go back and try again.

Thanks,
Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 22:05:52 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:05:52 -0500
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <gjtlh9$i0s$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49b3a7400901050819x5ea51907uab5185878e4ac378@mail.gmail.com>
	<gjtlh9$i0s$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200901051705.52220.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

kedit would not open this time.  A box opened that says on the title bar:  
Kedit - KDialog, then the following information:  Will not save 
configuration.  Configuration file "/home/steven/.kde/share/config/keditrc" 
not writable.  Please contact your system administrator.

I remember mentioning in a post that I had a kedit open as KEdit <2>.  I am 
pretty sure I saved and closed that.  Later I got an instruction to not save 
and close it, but it was too late.  Is that the reason KEdit doesn't perform.  
If so, is there something I can do?

Steven



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  5 22:05:50 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:05:50 -0600
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have 
	=?iso-8859-1?q?it=09stay=09active=09continually=2E?= **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <200901051651.48215.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051312.51542.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<200901051651.48215.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901051605.50814.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Monday 05 January 2009 3:51:48 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> > extraneous information is just that - extraneous.  So it requires more
> > effort to get to the new part when you've already gotten the gist of the
> > old part.
>
> Thanks, I now understand the why.  My replies are that way, aren't they?

Only sometimes. :)



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 22:10:00 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:10:00 -0500
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <49b3a7400901050819x5ea51907uab5185878e4ac378@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49b3a7400901050819x5ea51907uab5185878e4ac378@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901051710.00738.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> I think what you may be looking for is something like this:
>
> sudo dpkg -i /home/steven/Desktop/usermin_1.370_all.deb
>
> dpkg is the tool behind Aptitude, apt-get, Adept, Synaptec, etc. The -i
> option tells dpkg to install the package.
Someone gave me input on this issue and said I should be installing using 
webmin instead of usermin.  I may be wrong but when I went to download 
webmin, they suggested I install the above usermin package.  What should I 
do?

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 22:11:02 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:11:02 -0500
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <200901060227.05809.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901060227.05809.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901051711.02175.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Monday 05 January 2009 11:27:02 Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 02:10:44 am Steven Vollom wrote:
> > steven at Studio25:~$ sudo install  
> > file:///home/steven/Desktop/usermin_1.370_all.deb
>
> .deb files aren't installed using install :)
>
> They're debian package files installed using the package manager (dpkg).
>
> try:
>   sudo dpkg -i /home/steven/Desktop/usermin_1.370_all.deb
>
>
> Cheers,

Thanks Lindsay



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 22:15:23 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:15:23 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901050827u6e726362v7697a2ea1dbaba71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901050953.01221.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901050827u6e726362v7697a2ea1dbaba71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901051715.23548.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Interesting. I just tried on KDE 3 and on Konqueror it was _much_
> faster than Firefox. I am really surprised by how fast it was. I will
> retest on KDE 4 when I get a chance.
I haven't tried Konqueror since I removed the bad memory chip.  Perhaps that 
caused the poorer experience.  You would think it would affect both programs 
the same though.  When I would open a torrent for installation, it would take 
forever to return back to mininova.

I will try again later.  Thanks for the input.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan  5 22:19:18 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:19:18 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <200901051209.32672.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net> <49620E72.8020206@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051209.32672.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901051719.18273.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Let it install the extension, then you have real control over that stuffs.
I don't understand this comment.

Steven



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Mon Jan  5 22:28:16 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:28:16 +0200
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <200901051715.23548.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901050953.01221.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901050827u6e726362v7697a2ea1dbaba71@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901051715.23548.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901051428n50d357abi8a2c1890165f9c79@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/6 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> I haven't tried Konqueror since I removed the bad memory chip.  Perhaps that
> caused the poorer experience.  You would think it would affect both programs
> the same though.  When I would open a torrent for installation, it would take
> forever to return back to mininova.
>
> I will try again later.  Thanks for the input.
>
> Steven
>

Note necessarily. I don't know how memory is allocated for those two
apps, but I doubt that it would be identical.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Mon Jan  5 22:48:12 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:48:12 -0500
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <49615D97.1040809@tiscali.co.uk>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>
	<200901041734.30638.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
	<49615D97.1040809@tiscali.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200901051748.12497.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Sunday 04 January 2009, Wulfy wrote:
> >  
>
> I made the changes to ntp.conf.  The daily cron job accesses ntp.conf...
>
> Thanks for your help, Bruce!  Much appreciated.  I'll report back in a
> day or so if it's working...

 When you tried to run ntpdate, you probably also had npt running as a daemon.  
You would need to stop the daemon before running ntpdate.





From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan  5 23:36:24 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:36:24 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it
	=?iso-8859-1?q?stay=09active?= continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901051646.13323.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051231.56053.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901051646.13323.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901051836.24522.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 05 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>> >kedit opened to a blank page and in the title bar it reads /media/sdb1 -
>> >KEdit <2>, like I have two KEdit windows open.
>>
>> Oops, close that without saving.
>
>This is a while ago, and I cannot remember what I did, but if I were to
> guess, I probably saved before I closed.  Is there a way to check that?
>
>> Now, please understand that if I had a /media/westernsteer directory, I
>> can mount any partition visible to the system on that mount point with the
>> mount command.
>
>I don't understand what this paragraph means.
>
>> Does this help your understanding of how this works?
>
>Actually, some of it I recognize, but the acronyms are not understood yet;
> it is kind of like looking at a bunch of puzzle pieces right now.  I have
> not gotten that far yet in my understanding.  But thanks.  I will look into
> it.
>
>Steven

I don't think I used any acronyms, what looks like one 
(mkdir,mount,umount,rmdir,ls) is probably the name of the utility I ran.  
The 'westernsteer' was simply a throwaway name for purposes of the demo.  In 
the mount command, I used the -t option to specify the type of filesystem to 
mount as linux has about a dozen variations, with 'ext3' which is ext2 with 
journaling as the default used by 95+% of the users.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
*** Rince is wagner at schizo.DAINet.de (We have Joey, we have Fun, we have Linux 
on a Sun)
	-- Seen on #Debian



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan  5 23:41:17 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:41:17 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <200901051719.18273.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051209.32672.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901051719.18273.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901051841.17543.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 05 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>> Let it install the extension, then you have real control over that stuffs.
>
>I don't understand this comment.
>
>Steven

Click on tools->add-ons->get add-ons.

It will go hit the usual suspect web sites for such and show you a list of 
whats available shortly.  Click on the name, and that will expend that 
definition and give you an 'install' button to click on.  Pretty simple once 
you get used to it.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Phasers locked on target, Captain.



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  6 01:06:14 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:06:14 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have
	=?iso-8859-1?q?it=09stay=09active=09continually=2E?= **RESOLVED**
In-Reply-To: <200901051605.50814.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051651.48215.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051605.50814.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901052006.15059.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> > Thanks, I now understand the why.  My replies are that way, aren't they?
>
> Only sometimes. :)

Please discipline me when I screw up.  Sometimes old habits are hard to break.  
I am trying though



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  6 01:14:57 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:14:57 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it
	=?iso-8859-1?q?stay=09active?= continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901051836.24522.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051646.13323.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051836.24522.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901052014.57211.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Monday 05 January 2009 18:36:24 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 05 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
> >> >kedit opened to a blank page and in the title bar it reads /media/sdb1
> >> > - KEdit <2>, like I have two KEdit windows open.
> >>
> >> Oops, close that without saving.
If I saved that edit, could that have caused a problem?  It seems like I 
remember when opening KEdit there would be a page of data to read.

> >> Now, please understand that if I had a /media/westernsteer directory, I
> >> can mount any partition visible to the system on that mount point with
> >> the mount command.
I am confused here.

> I don't think I used any acronyms, what looks like one
> (mkdir,mount,umount,rmdir,ls) is probably the name of the utility I ran.
I guess I see sda1 or sdb2 or Floppy0 as a kind of acronym, because I don't 
know what the letters mean yet.  It seemed that the page was filled with 
letters and numbers like that that you would have to know what they mean to 
understand how to understand the page.
> The 'westernsteer' was simply a throwaway name for purposes of the demo.
westernsteer is kind of like Konqueror, conqueror, a name that doesn't mean 
what it says, however is descriptive. 
> In the mount command, I used the -t option to specify the type of
> filesystem to mount as linux has about a dozen variations, with 'ext3'
> which is ext2 with journaling as the default used by 95+% of the users.
Whenever possible I have used ext3; I thought it best.
 

Thanks Gene,
Steven





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  6 01:17:41 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:17:41 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901051428n50d357abi8a2c1890165f9c79@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051715.23548.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901051428n50d357abi8a2c1890165f9c79@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901052017.41997.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

> Note necessarily. I don't know how memory is allocated for those two
> apps, but I doubt that it would be identical.
Wow, that is an interesting and informative and mind stimulating answer.  
Thank you.  I can adjust how I have been thinking.  I think I have made a lot 
of assumptions that are inaccurate.

Is that code or Hebrew at the bottom.  If Hebrew what does it say?

Steven

> א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
> ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
> А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
> а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
> ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  6 01:19:14 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:19:14 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <200901051841.17543.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051719.18273.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051841.17543.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901052019.15064.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Click on tools->add-ons->get add-ons.
>
> It will go hit the usual suspect web sites for such and show you a list of
> whats available shortly.  Click on the name, and that will expend that
> definition and give you an 'install' button to click on.  Pretty simple
> once you get used to it.
Will do, Gene, Thanks.
Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  6 01:22:07 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:22:07 -0500
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <gjtlh9$i0s$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49b3a7400901050819x5ea51907uab5185878e4ac378@mail.gmail.com>
	<gjtlh9$i0s$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200901052022.07798.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> sudo dpkg -i /home/steven/Desktop/webmin_1.441_all.deb
Don't I have to download that application first?  When I enter that into 
Konsole, I get the following:
steven at Studio25:~$ sudo dpkg -i /home/steven/Desktop/webmin_1.441_all.deb
[sudo] password for steven:
dpkg: error processing /home/steven/Desktop/webmin_1.441_all.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /home/steven/Desktop/webmin_1.441_all.deb
steven at Studio25:~$

Steven





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  6 01:25:37 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:25:37 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it
	=?iso-8859-1?q?stay=09active?= continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901051231.56053.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496218DA.6000504@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051231.56053.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901052025.37617.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Monday 05 January 2009 12:31:56 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 05 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
> >> /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ext3 owner,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
> >>
> >> The difference is in the second option, I changed it from "/media" to
> >> "/media/sda1".
> >
> >I think I screwed up.  I opened the GUI  to look at the partitions in
> >Disk&Filesystems.  I expected to find sda1 with a mount point of
> >/media/sda1.  It showed as /media/sdb1 instead of /media/sda1.  I then
> >opened the Konsole and entered sudo kedit /media/sdb2  to try to get to
> >that error.  This is what came on the Konsole:
> >
> >steven at Studio25:~$ sudo kedit /media/sdb1
> >[sudo] password for steven:
> >Error: "/tmp/kde-steven" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> >
> >kedit opened to a blank page and in the title bar it reads /media/sdb1 -
> >KEdit <2>, like I have two KEdit windows open.
>
> Oops, close that without saving.
>
> >I want to go back and edit the mount point as /media/sda1.
>
> A 'mount point' is nothing more nor less than a directory.  If there is
> nothing in it, it can be removed with an 'rmdir', see the manpage.
>
> If there is something in that directory, probably because something was
> stored there when no media was mounted, then if its precious, mv (see the
> manpage) it to someplace safe.
>
> Now, please understand that if I had a /media/westernsteer directory, I can
> mount any partition visible to the system on that mount point with the
> mount command.
>
> Demo (all as root or sudo'd, and the # sign is the shell prompt, no pound
> sign its the response to the command:
>
> # mkdir /media/westernsteer
> # df
> (and get:)
> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sdb3            468832020  97119656 347512852  22% /
> /dev/sdb1               194442     81057    103346  44% /boot
> /dev/sdc1            384578164 298590648  66452076  82% /amandatapes
> tmpfs                  2075600         0   2075600   0% /dev/shm
>
> The above to verify where my /boot is (this box is an odd bird), then
>
> # mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/westernsteer
> # ls /media/westernsteer
> config-2.6.25.14-69.fc8  initrd-2.6.25.14-69.fc8.img  memdisk
> System.map-2.6.27-rc4     vmlinuz-2.6.26.5-28.fc8
> config-2.6.26.3-14.fc8   initrd-2.6.26.3-14.fc8.img   System.map
> System.map-2.6.27-rc5     vmlinuz-2.6.26.6-49.fc8
> config-2.6.26.5-28.fc8   initrd-2.6.26.5-28.fc8.img
> System.map-2.6.25.14-69.fc8  System.map-2.6.27-rc6     vmlinuz-2.6.27.2
> config-2.6.26.6-49.fc8   initrd-2.6.26.6-49.fc8.img   System.map-2.6.26
> System.map-2.6.27-rc7     vmlinuz-2.6.27.3
> config-2.6.26.gz         initrd-2.6.26.img
> System.map-2.6.26.3-14.fc8   System.map-2.6.27-rc7-4   vmlinuz-2.6.27-4
> config-2.6.27.2.gz       initrd-2.6.27.2.img
> System.map-2.6.26.5-28.fc8   System.map-2.6.27-rc8     vmlinuz-2.6.27.4
> config-2.6.27.3.gz       initrd-2.6.27.3.img
> System.map-2.6.26.6-49.fc8   System.map-2.6.27-rc8-4   vmlinuz-2.6.27.5
> config-2.6.27-4.gz       initrd-2.6.27-4.img          System.map-2.6.27.2
> System.map-2.6.27-rc9-4   vmlinuz-2.6.27.6
> config-2.6.27.4.gz       initrd-2.6.27.4.img          System.map-2.6.27.3
> System.map-2.6.28         vmlinuz-2.6.28
> config-2.6.27.5.gz       initrd-2.6.27.5.img          System.map-2.6.27-4
> System.map-2.6.28.old
> config-2.6.27.6.gz       initrd-2.6.27.6.img          System.map-2.6.27.4
> vmlinuz-2.6.25.14-69.fc8
> config-2.6.28.gz         initrd-2.6.28.img            System.map-2.6.27.5
> vmlinuz-2.6.26
> grub                     lost+found                   System.map-2.6.27.6
> vmlinuz-2.6.26.3-14.fc8
>
> It is in fact, my /boot partition, mounted someplace else.  Now, clean up
> the mess I just made:
>
> # umount /media/westernsteer
> # rmdir /media/westernsteer
> # ls /media/westernsteer
> ls: cannot access /media/westernsteer: No such file or directory
>
> Does this help your understanding of how this works?
>
> >Steven
>
> --
> Cheers, Gene
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> QOTD:
> 	"I don't think they could put him in a mental hospital.  On the
> 	other hand, if he were already in, I don't think they'd let him out."

Thanks for trying Gene, but I am going to have to mature a bit in linux.  I 
just get confused when I look at a page like this.  Sorry to be so slow.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  6 01:40:09 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:40:09 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <20090105175258.6a7fb44f@graham-desktop>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051209.32672.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<20090105175258.6a7fb44f@graham-desktop>
Message-ID: <200901052040.09585.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>



> I'd advocate installing privoxy as well, and a decent hosts file (such
> as that found at http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm ).
I went to the mvps site.  It related to all Window OS's.  I didn't see 
anything about linux.  I operate Kubuntu Hardy KDE 3.5.10.

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Tue Jan  6 02:59:27 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:59:27 -0500
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <200901051705.52220.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49b3a7400901050819x5ea51907uab5185878e4ac378@mail.gmail.com>	<gjtlh9$i0s$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<200901051705.52220.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4962C90F.2010901@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> kedit would not open this time.  A box opened that says on the title bar:  
> Kedit - KDialog, then the following information:  Will not save 
> configuration.  Configuration file "/home/steven/.kde/share/config/keditrc" 
> not writable.  Please contact your system administrator.

That's weird... Try:

sudo chown steven:steven /home/steven/.kde/share/config/keditrc
chmod ug+rw /home/steven/.kde/share/config/keditrc

Matt Flaschen



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Tue Jan  6 03:08:19 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:08:19 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it
	=?iso-8859-1?q?stay=09active?= continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901052014.57211.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051836.24522.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901052014.57211.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901052208.19921.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 05 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>On Monday 05 January 2009 18:36:24 Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Monday 05 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>> >> >kedit opened to a blank page and in the title bar it reads /media/sdb1
>> >> > - KEdit <2>, like I have two KEdit windows open.
>> >>
>> >> Oops, close that without saving.
>
>If I saved that edit, could that have caused a problem?  It seems like I
>remember when opening KEdit there would be a page of data to read.
>
>> >> Now, please understand that if I had a /media/westernsteer directory, I
>> >> can mount any partition visible to the system on that mount point with
>> >> the mount command.
>
>I am confused here.
>
>> I don't think I used any acronyms, what looks like one
>> (mkdir,mount,umount,rmdir,ls) is probably the name of the utility I ran.
>
>I guess I see sda1 or sdb2 or Floppy0 as a kind of acronym, because I don't
>know what the letters mean yet.

Background:  Here a year or so back, the kernel folks decided to simplify 
hardware access by treating all storage media as a scsi device, scsi standing 
for Small Computer Systems Interface.

This interface spec is quite well worked out, and assumes that the drive is 
quite intelligent.  You tell the drives to copy file 'a' on the first drive 
to filename 'd' on the 2nd drive, and the main cpu is free to go do something 
else, the drives will do the copy, and sending an interrupt back to the cpu 
telling the cpu the results of the copy operation when they are finished.

Other drives aren't quite that smart, so while the interface command structure 
passed to the 'scsi' driver meets the scsi specs, the driver then diddles 
things around and fills in the function gaps that an IDE drive isn't smart 
enough to do, making it look as if it was that smart.  The time used is about 
the same because its the cable bandwidth to the drives that is the major 
speed limit, that, and the rotational latency while the drives platters turn 
to where the file is, and the heads are skewed sideways to the correct track 
on the disk.

Anyway...

The kernel knows these drives by the following framework:
/dev/sda = first disk found at boot and registered
/dev/sdb = 2nd such disk found and registered
/dev/sdc through sdf = the rest of the drives

Now, in order to know which 'partition' on the drive, this is further defined 
as:
/dev/sda1 = first partition on the first drive
/dev/sda2 = 2nd partition on the first drive
/dev/sda3 = 3rd, etc etc to sdaf IIRC.

Repeat this for /dev/sdb1-f, sdc1-f sdd1-f etc etc.

Now, since us humans are sorta dumb, we need to know these by some handy 
nemonic or an actual real label, so that we know where the /boot partition 
is, we create first a / directory, and then mount that label or partition to 
the / label, effectively setting up an alias that we dummies can remember.

Then we make another directory named /boot,, which you can see is made on 
the / label, and we mount (usually the 1st partition of the first disk, 
or /dev/sda1, to this /boot directory, linking those 2 together.This 
continues until all the stuff you need, (/home, /usr, /var, /etc, /opt) the 
operating system needs, has been made available to the operating system.

>It seemed that the page was filled with 
>letters and numbers like that that you would have to know what they mean to
>understand how to understand the page.

Chicken, meet egg. :)  Or is it vice-versa? :-)  To a newbie, the expression 
Arther Clark (or was it Isaac Asimov, I forget now) wrote 70 or so years 
ago, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" 
seems to apply, but it really is just shuffling a few bits around if you were 
standing there playing sidewalk superintendent.

>> The 'westernsteer' was simply a throwaway name for purposes of the demo.
>
>westernsteer is kind of like Konqueror, conqueror, a name that doesn't mean
>what it says, however is descriptive.

Actually, there used to be a buffet/steakhouse chain by that name, now just 
simplified to the 'Steer' around these parts.  Food is quite decent early in 
the evening but gets stale later.  Lesson: Eat early. :)

>> In the mount command, I used the -t option to specify the type of
>> filesystem to mount as linux has about a dozen variations, with 'ext3'
>> which is ext2 with journaling as the default used by 95+% of the users.
>
>Whenever possible I have used ext3; I thought it best.

There can be reasons to use a different one, but to me they had better be very 
good ones.  Each has its polished spots, and each has its rust spots.  ext3 
has been 'good enough for the girls I go with' for quite a spell now.  I can 
remember faintly, over a decade back up the log, when ext2 needed help, but 
then so did all the others back then too.

>Thanks Gene,
>Steven

Well, if I'm pouring more fuel on your fire of miss-understanding, I 
apologize, I never was great shakes at telling the average person how 
television works, but I make sure it does, tv engineering has been my game 
for over 45 years now.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
It's those computer people in X {city of world}.  They keep stuffing things 
up.



From jerryg at gaiser.org  Tue Jan  6 03:28:02 2009
From: jerryg at gaiser.org (Jerry Gaiser)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:28:02 -0800
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <200901052040.09585.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<20090105175258.6a7fb44f@graham-desktop>
	<200901052040.09585.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901051928.03541.jerryg@gaiser.org>

On Monday 05 January 2009 17:40, Steven Vollom wrote:
> > I'd advocate installing privoxy as well, and a decent hosts file (such
> > as that found at http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm ).
>
> I went to the mvps site.  It related to all Window OS's.  I didn't see
> anything about linux.  I operate Kubuntu Hardy KDE 3.5.10.
>
> Steven

Steven -- If you had *actually* gone to the link above, you would arrived at a 
discussion of a "hosts" file (see /etc/hosts) that helps attempts to block 
unwanted content.

-- 
Jerry Gaiser in North Plains, Oregon USA - 45.6933N 123.0418W
"...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in one pretty and well-preserved piece, but to slide across the finish line
broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, and shouting
GERONIMO!!!" -- Bill McKenna



From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  6 04:41:54 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:41:54 +1100
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <BLU143-W155F608865ADCAB436CB90CDDE0@phx.gbl>


Anyone out there know how to re-install Kubuntu without losing any data
as been advised by japan solution centre(brother printers) that to resolve
my problem with the printer dcp130c to work again on Kubuntu ,after initially
working, but cant seem to re-install drivers, I need to re-install Kubuntu??????????

ray

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From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  6 04:49:29 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:49:29 +1100
Subject: FW: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
Message-ID: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>




From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com; kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com; kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: 
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:41:54 +1100








Anyone out there know how to re-install Kubuntu without losing any data
as been advised by japan solution centre(brother printers) that to resolve
my problem with the printer dcp130c to work again on Kubuntu ,after initially
working, but cant seem to re-install drivers, I need to re-install Kubuntu??????????

ray

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From rjlapham at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 04:54:48 2009
From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:54:48 -0500
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W155F608865ADCAB436CB90CDDE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W155F608865ADCAB436CB90CDDE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200901052354.48456.rjlapham@gmail.com>

On Monday 05 January 2009 11:41:54 pm Ray Burke wrote:

> Anyone out there know how to re-install Kubuntu without losing any data
> as been advised by japan solution centre(brother printers) that to resolve
> my problem with the printer dcp130c to work again on Kubuntu ,after
> initially working, but cant seem to re-install drivers, I need to
> re-install Kubuntu??????????
>
> ray
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Holiday cheer from Messenger. Download free emoticons today!
> http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=669758

Have you tried going to <http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html>?

	-Jerry
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=============================================
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From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  6 05:08:48 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 16:08:48 +1100
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <200901052354.48456.rjlapham@gmail.com>
References: <BLU143-W155F608865ADCAB436CB90CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<200901052354.48456.rjlapham@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU143-W8F51EBF01CA10E6338173CDDE0@phx.gbl>


Jerry,

Have been advised by the japan solution center that I must re-install Kubuntu
to overcome problem, but dont want to loose any data, and we have gone thru
all that is shown in this link many times before?????


ray

> From: rjlapham at gmail.com
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re:
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:54:48 -0500
> 
> On Monday 05 January 2009 11:41:54 pm Ray Burke wrote:
> 
> > Anyone out there know how to re-install Kubuntu without losing any data
> > as been advised by japan solution centre(brother printers) that to resolve
> > my problem with the printer dcp130c to work again on Kubuntu ,after
> > initially working, but cant seem to re-install drivers, I need to
> > re-install Kubuntu??????????
> >
> > ray
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Holiday cheer from Messenger. Download free emoticons today!
> > http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=669758
> 
> Have you tried going to <http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html>?
> 
> 	-Jerry
> -- 
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> Jerry Lapham
> Monroe, OH  45050
> rjlapham at gmail.com
> =============================================
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From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  6 05:42:57 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:42:57 -0600
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W8F51EBF01CA10E6338173CDDE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W155F608865ADCAB436CB90CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<200901052354.48456.rjlapham@gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W8F51EBF01CA10E6338173CDDE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200901052342.58301.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Monday 05 January 2009 11:08:48 pm Ray Burke wrote:
> Have been advised by the japan solution center that I must re-install
> Kubuntu to overcome problem, but dont want to loose any data, and we have
> gone thru all that is shown in this link many times before?????

What in the world reinstalling your operating system will do to make your 
printer work is beyond me - this isn't Windows.  If you do it, don't be 
surprised if you feel you've wasted your time.  I could be wrong, of course.

Here's the problem, if there is a real thing that reinstalling Kubuntu would 
do for you, it most likely needs a full, fresh install.  This means that if 
you want to keep your data, you'll have to back it up.  This might be as easy 
as getting a small thumb drive and copying your documents directory to it (if 
you have no large collection of videos or music files) and might go as far as 
to require creating a backup partition (if you have disk space) to move your 
stuff to while you reinstall.

Basically, what is it that you have that you want to keep?  In what 
directories are they stored?  What are the large files?



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  6 06:46:49 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 01:46:49 -0500
Subject: How do I activate my sdb5 partition and have it
	=?iso-8859-1?q?stay=09active?= continually.
In-Reply-To: <200901052208.19921.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901022255.41024.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901052014.57211.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901052208.19921.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901060146.50085.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Well, if I'm pouring more fuel on your fire of miss-understanding, I
> apologize, I never was great shakes at telling the average person how
> television works, but I make sure it does, tv engineering has been my game
> for over 45 years now.
Thanks Gene.  I will need to meditate on what I have read, but mostly, I am 
starting to understand.  You are kind to take the time to explain it more 
thoroughly.  Things seem like they are getting a little easier.  Maybe I can 
adapt to intelligence.  

Cordially,
Steven




From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 07:02:38 2009
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:02:38 +1000
Subject: Useful Ubuntu Book
Message-ID: <200901061702.41600.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>

Looks like its good for learning basic Ubuntu/Kubuntu administration, tips and 
tricks.

  http://www.amazon.com/dp/1934356220/ref=nosim/?tag=slashdot0c-20

Review here:

  http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/05/1548229


Cheers,

-- 
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http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  6 07:19:22 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 02:19:22 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <200901051928.03541.jerryg@gaiser.org>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901052040.09585.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051928.03541.jerryg@gaiser.org>
Message-ID: <200901060219.22242.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> "...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
> safely in one pretty and well-preserved piece, but to slide across the
> finish line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, and
> shouting GERONIMO!!!" -- Bill McKenna
Smart guy, McKenna.

Dear Jerry,

I know so little, one thing I find the need to do is not try to learn about things that don't seem to relate to what I want to know.  When Windows is the center of discussion, I tend to pass over the discussion, because I don't see the comparrisons to Kubuntu.  Even when they do relate to eachother, I don't understand well enough to know that in this case the relavency is to either.  So I don't read all the information and just scan over looking for comments directed to Linux.  Reading about Windows solutions then overloads my brain and I become very confused very fast.  Below is the page you linked to.  If it is the correct page, please point out where the relavent areas are for me to learn about?  Thanks!  P.S.:  I experimented and typed hosts file into the terminal to see if anything would come up.

Host file not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
steven at Studio25:~$ host
Usage: host [-aCdlriTwv] [-c class] [-N ndots] [-t type] [-W time]
            [-R number] [-m flag] hostname [server]
       -a is equivalent to -v -t ANY
       -c specifies query class for non-IN data
       -C compares SOA records on authoritative nameservers
       -d is equivalent to -v
       -l lists all hosts in a domain, using AXFR
       -i IP6.INT reverse lookups
       -N changes the number of dots allowed before root lookup is done
       -r disables recursive processing
       -R specifies number of retries for UDP packets
       -s a SERVFAIL response should stop query
       -t specifies the query type
       -T enables TCP/IP mode
       -v enables verbose output
       -w specifies to wait forever for a reply
       -W specifies how long to wait for a reply
       -4 use IPv4 query transport only
       -6 use IPv6 query transport only
       -m set memory debugging flag (trace|record|usage)
steven at Studio25:~$ host -l
Usage: host [-aCdlriTwv] [-c class] [-N ndots] [-t type] [-W time]
            [-R number] [-m flag] hostname [server]
       -a is equivalent to -v -t ANY
       -c specifies query class for non-IN data
       -C compares SOA records on authoritative nameservers
       -d is equivalent to -v
       -l lists all hosts in a domain, using AXFR
       -i IP6.INT reverse lookups
       -N changes the number of dots allowed before root lookup is done
       -r disables recursive processing
       -R specifies number of retries for UDP packets
       -s a SERVFAIL response should stop query
       -t specifies the query type
       -T enables TCP/IP mode
       -v enables verbose output
       -w specifies to wait forever for a reply
       -W specifies how long to wait for a reply
       -4 use IPv4 query transport only
       -6 use IPv6 query transport only
       -m set memory debugging flag (trace|record|usage)
steven at Studio25:~$ host -t
host: option requires an argument -- t
Usage: host [-aCdlriTwv] [-c class] [-N ndots] [-t type] [-W time]
            [-R number] [-m flag] hostname [server]
       -a is equivalent to -v -t ANY
       -c specifies query class for non-IN data
       -C compares SOA records on authoritative nameservers
       -d is equivalent to -v
       -l lists all hosts in a domain, using AXFR
       -i IP6.INT reverse lookups
       -N changes the number of dots allowed before root lookup is done
       -r disables recursive processing
       -R specifies number of retries for UDP packets
       -s a SERVFAIL response should stop query
       -t specifies the query type
       -T enables TCP/IP mode
       -v enables verbose output
       -w specifies to wait forever for a reply
       -W specifies how long to wait for a reply
       -4 use IPv4 query transport only
       -6 use IPv6 query transport only
       -m set memory debugging flag (trace|record|usage)
steven at Studio25:~$                              
******************************************************************************
What it does ...
The Hosts file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. This file is loaded into memory (cache) at startup, then Windows 

When I read this, I did not see relevance to Linux.

checks the Hosts file before it queries any DNS servers, which enables it to override addresses in the DNS. This prevents access to the listed sites by redirecting any connection attempts back to the local (your) machine. Another feature of the HOSTS file is its ability to block other applications from connecting to the Internet, providing the entry exists.
You can use a HOSTS file to block ads, banners, 3rd party Cookies, 3rd party page counters, web bugs, and even most hijackers.

This looks relavent, but how do I identify the offenders?

 This is accomplished by blocking the connection(s) that supplies these little gems. 
Example - the following entry 127.0.0.1 ad.doubleclick.net blocks all files supplied by that DoubleClick Server to the web page you are viewing. This also prevents the server from tracking your movements. Why? ... because in certain cases "Ad Servers" like Doubleclick (and many others) will try to open a separate connection on the webpage you are viewing.

How do I make the list of hosts appear?  What do I do to block those that are obviously unwanted?
 
For XP SP2 

When I read 'For XP SP2' I again felt I was attempting to learn something not relevant to Linux.

users you should see a Security Center prompt about allowing this connection. [screenshot] 

I clicked on the '[screenshot] link and it would not open.

Simply click No and continue. Yes the prompts can be annoying but at least you'll know, however you should not see these prompts if these entries are included in the HOSTS file.

At this point, I become totally lost.

 Note: this prompt only occurs if (example) *.doubleclick.net is included in the "Restricted Zone".
 
More Examples
  AdTech |  BridgeTrack |  Honesty |  Mgnetwork |  ValueClick | Google AdSense | Atdmt | Atdmt
 Now here is a 3rd party ad server opening a connection to another 3rd party ad server - Ad-Flow
 More 3rd parties opening other 3rd parties: Overture | Overture | Directtrack | Directtrack | RealMedia

Note: By placing these type sites in the Restricted Zone this also cures most "Back Button" issues.

 Now includes most major parasites, hijackers and unwanted Adware/Spyware programs!
Proudly now the #1 rated HOSTS file on the Internet!  - Google | MSN | Yahoo | AltaVista
Now regularly featured on the Kim Komando Radio Show
The MVPS HOSTS file has been selected by Pricelessware as "the best of the best in Freeware" for the 2nd time ...
In many cases using a well designed HOSTS file can speed the loading of web pages by not having to wait for these ads, annoying banners, hit counters, etc. to load. This also helps to protect your Privacy and Security by blocking sites that may track your viewing habits, also known as  "click-thru tracking" or Data Miners. Simply using a HOSTS file is not a cure-all against all the dangers on the Internet, but it does provide another very effective "Layer of Protection".
Editors Note: As time has progressed the focus of this project has changed from just blocking ads/banners to protecting the user from the many parasites that now exist on the Internet. It doesn't serve much purpose if you block the ad banner from displaying as most other HOSTS files do, but get hijacked by a parasite from an evil exploit or download contained on the web site. The object is to surf faster while preserving your Safety, Security and Privacy. [more info]
  To view the HOSTS file in plain text form. (604 kb) (opens in IE)
Note: The text version also makes a terrific reference for determining possible unwanted sites
 Download: hosts.zip [right-click - Select: Save Target As] [Updated November-25-2008]
  This download includes a simple batch file (mvps.bat) that will rename the existing HOSTS file to HOSTS.MVP then copy the included updated HOSTS file to the proper location. For more information please see the readme.txt included in the download.
  Important! Windows Vista requires special instructions  Not here - over there >  see here
When you run the (mvps.bat) batch file XP users may  see a prompt, simply click Run and continue. Once updated you should see  another prompt that the task was completed. Some users may see a pop-up from certain Security programs about changes to the HOSTS file. Allow the change ... however if you see this pop-up at any other time ... investigate.
 
Download Information: (checksum info is on the HOSTS file not the "hosts.zip")
MD5: c289e26df7034fe0db5abe852f01e93b SHA-1: 53a3d3254aff837606b019d3450f5710e4303237
(created by File Checksum Integrity Verifier) To view Checksum for this download  Not here - over there > [click here]

Manual Method - Unzip in a "temp" folder and place in the appropriate installed location:
If you are having trouble downloading or extracting the HOSTS file  [click here]
Note: the below locations are for the typical default paths, edit as needed.
Windows Vista  =  C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
  Windows XP  =  C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
  Windows 2K  =  C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
  Win 98/ME  =  C:\WINDOWS
  There is no need to turn on, adjust or change any settings with the exception of the DNS Client service (see below). Windows automatically looks for the existence of a HOSTS file and if found, checks the HOSTS file first for entries to the web page you just requested. The 127.0.0.1 is the location of your computer, so when the entry (example) "ad.doubleclick.net" is requested your computer thinks 127.0.0.1 is the location of the file. When this file is not located it skips onto the next file and thus the ad server is blocked from loading the banner, Cookie, or some unscrupulous ActiveX, or javascript file.
In case you're wondering ... this all happens in microseconds, which is much faster than trying to fetch a file from half way around the world. Another great feature of the HOSTS file is that it is a two-way file, meaning if some parasite does get into your system (usually bundled with other products) the culprit can not get out (call home) as long as the necessary entries exist. This is why it's important to keep your HOSTS file up to Date. Subscribe to a secure mailing list
Editors Note: in most cases a large HOSTS file (over 135 kb) tends to slow down the machine. This only occurs in W2000/XP/Vista. Windows 98 and ME are not affected.
To resolve this issue (manually) open the "Services Editor"
Start | Run (type) "services.msc" (no quotes)
Scroll down to "DNS Client", Right-click and select: Properties
Click the drop-down arrow for "Startup type"
Select: Manual, or Disabled (recommended) click Apply/Ok and restart. [more info]
When set to Manual (or Disabled) you can see that the above "Service" is not needed (after a little browsing) by opening the Services Editor again, scroll down to DNS Client and check the "Status" column. It should be blank, if it was needed it would show "Started" in that column. There are several Utilities that can reset the DNS Client for you ... [more info]
Editors Note: The above instructions are intended for a single (home-user) PC. If your machine is part of a "Domain", check with your IT Dept. before applying this work-around. This especially applies to Laptop users who travel or bring their machines home. Make sure to reset the Service (if needed) prior to connecting (reboot required) to your work Domain ...
 
 JBF sends along this Tip: IPCOP running a DHCP server needs the local PC DNS Client enabled to function.
Reset the DNS Client with a simple batch file (submitted by: Ronny Ong - 2K/XP only)
DnsManual.bat (resets the DNS Client to Manual) [right-click and select: Save Target As]
 DnsDisabled.bat (resets the DNS Client to Disabled) [right-click and select: Save Target As]
To use: double-click on the downloaded file and reboot that's it ...
For all other Questions, Issues and Solutions - see: The HOSTS File FAQ
 For detailed Download and Extract Instructions - see: Download Help

This is very new stuff for me.  Thanks.  Will you elaborate as though you were talking to a child?  Thanks.

Steven
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  6 07:25:28 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 02:25:28 -0500
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <4962C90F.2010901@gatech.edu>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051705.52220.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
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> sudo chown steven:steven /home/steven/.kde/share/config/keditrc
> chmod ug+rw /home/steven/.kde/share/config/keditrc
Dear Matt,

Getting old is not all it is cracked up to be.  I cannot remember what I was 
trying to accomplish when I was stopped using KEdit.  I will have to search 
my saved emails to come back on track.  Thanks for the information.  I 
applied the ownership change instruction and opened KEdit to a blank page.  
So it appears working again.  I hope I did not waste your time.  After I 
finish reading the current incoming posts, I will look for this solution.  
Thanks friend.

Steven





From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 07:26:33 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:26:33 +0200
Subject: Can't set clock
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901051306g246d37f7v7647a9375fbeaf71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4960714C.6060908@tiscali.co.uk>	<200901050724.36503.gene.heskett@verizon.net>	<bm6a36-6om.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<200901051551.21509.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<b8d784880901051306g246d37f7v7647a9375fbeaf71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496307A9.9080503@gmail.com>

Jonas Norlander wrote:
> 2009/1/5 Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net>:
>> On Monday 05 January 2009, Derek Broughton wrote:
>>> Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>> I managed by typing:
>>>>> sudo ntpdate oceania.pool.ntp.org
>>>>> and that is also the timeserver I have set the "systray" clock to use
>>>> And you are beating on a single machine, remove the 'oceania.' part and
>>>> let the ntp dns server spread the load.
>>> No, he's not.  The regional time servers are also using round robin DNS -
>>> it's just a smaller pool than pool.ntp.org.  I would think if "oceania" is
>>> your region, the latency in getting to many of the large servers might
>>> interfere with getting a reliable time setting (though I know the ntp
>>> protocol tries very hard to take care of that).
>> Thanks for the heads up on regional servers.  How do I go about getting such a
>> list for my own use?
>>
> 
> As i wrote in a previous mail in this thread you can get a list of
> servers close to you from
> http://www.pool.ntp.org/zone/
> 
Following the advice on the website to "ping around" and see where you 
get faster response I find that the europe  pool is nearly twice as fast 
to respond than the africa pool. Guess where I am located... this I 
guess because the providers here buy there bandwidth using VSAT from 
European providers.




From ed.lau at mail.ee  Tue Jan  6 07:37:51 2009
From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:37:51 +0200
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <200901052342.58301.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <BLU143-W155F608865ADCAB436CB90CDDE0@phx.gbl>	<200901052354.48456.rjlapham@gmail.com>	<BLU143-W8F51EBF01CA10E6338173CDDE0@phx.gbl>
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Constantinos Maltezos kirjutas:
> On Monday 05 January 2009 11:08:48 pm Ray Burke wrote:
>> Have been advised by the japan solution center that I must re-install
>> Kubuntu to overcome problem, but dont want to loose any data, and we have
>> gone thru all that is shown in this link many times before?????
> 
> What in the world reinstalling your operating system will do to make your 
> printer work is beyond me - this isn't Windows.  If you do it, don't be 
> surprised if you feel you've wasted your time.  I could be wrong, of course.
> 
> Here's the problem, if there is a real thing that reinstalling Kubuntu would 
> do for you, it most likely needs a full, fresh install.  This means that if 
> you want to keep your data, you'll have to back it up.  This might be as easy 
> as getting a small thumb drive and copying your documents directory to it (if 
> you have no large collection of videos or music files) and might go as far as 
> to require creating a backup partition (if you have disk space) to move your 
> stuff to while you reinstall.

If you don't have enough wide e-mail reading window or program - copy the following text into some 
text editor, e.g. Kate or gEdit (whatever you use) and the you'll see following tables correctly.

I suggest to create following partitions:

mount point	filesystem	device
***********	**********	******
1) swap		swap		/dev/sda1 - primary
2) /boot	ext3		/dev/sda2 - primary
3) /tmp		ext3		/dev/sda3 - primary
				/dev/sda4 - extended partition
4) /var		ext3		/dev/sda5 - logical
5) /		ext3		/dev/sda6 - logical
6) /home	ext3		/dev/sda7 - logical
7) /data	ext3		/dev/sda8 - logical

Swap and /boot should be in the beginning of HDD to boot and swap fast. Also /tmp and /var have 
fastly changing data and are therefore before other partitions.

If you have also dual boot with Windows, then:

mount point		in Windows	filesystem	device
***********		**********	**********	******
1) /mnt/ntfs-system	C:		NTFS		/dev/sda1 - Windows system
2) /mnt/ntfs-data	D:		NTFS		/dev/sda2 - data
3) /mnt/ntfs-swap	E:		NTFS		/dev/sda3 - Windows swap (pagefile.sys)
				/dev/sda4 - extended partition
4) swap					swap		/dev/sda5 - logical
5) /boot				ext3		/dev/sda6 - logical
6) /tmp					ext3		/dev/sda7 - logical
7) /var					ext3		/dev/sda8 - logical
8) /					ext3		/dev/sda9 - logical
9) /home				ext3		/dev/sda10 - logical
10) /data				ext3		/dev/sda11 - logical

If you created the user in Linux, e.g. named it "john", then also group will be the same as 
username. Then write:
sudo chown -R john:john /data
... and press enter

After entering the user john's password, the folder belongs to user john.

Then create symlink:
ln -s /data /home/john/data

Then you see the folder "data" in user home directory, which is actually symlink. Save all your 
important data there.

Another option is to create e.g. the folder /data/homes and user folder inside it:
sudo mkdir /data/homes /data/homes/john
sudo chown -R john:john /data

Then move all your data folders into it and create symlinks to user's home:
mv /home/john/Desktop /data/homes/john/Desktop && ln -s /data/homes/john/Desktop /home/john/Desktop
mv /home/john/Public /data/homes/john/Public && ln -s /data/homes/john/Public /home/john/Public
mv /home/john/Documents /data/homes/john/Documents && ln -s /data/homes/john/Documents 
/home/john/Documents
mv /home/john/Music /data/homes/john/Music && ln -s /data/homes/john/Music /home/john/Music
mv /home/john/Pictures /data/homes/john/Pictures && ln -s /data/homes/john/Pictures /home/john/Pictures
mv /home/john/Videos /data/homes/john/Videos && ln -s /data/homes/john/Videos /home/john/Videos

If you have any other folders, what data you would like to keep - move and create symlinks to them.

swap could be usualy 2xRAM but if you already have e.g. 2GB RAM, then there is not necessary to 
create 4GB swap partition - it's enough if there is 1GB. Normally swap is not used and if it's 
heavily used then there is better to add RAM instead of increasing swap partition. RAM is ~20 times 
faster than HDD and your computer isn't slow if you have enough RAM.

/boot could be have 100MB but now are big HDD-s and I give 1GB for /boot to be sure there are enough 
room for kernel upgrades.

/tmp is for temporary files and could be also 1GB if there is not very big HDD but if possible, I 
give 3GB or even 5GB

/var should be 3GB...5GB but if you use also e.g. web server etc. what keep their data in /var - you 
could create it larger, e.g. 10GB...15GB. But also you can link e.g. /var/www to /data/www and then 
you don't need to have too large /var. You can also use Apache aliases to mount any folder into 
Apache tree - http://www.google.com/search?q=apache+alias - look the right manual according your 
Apache's version.

/ is the root and there goes system - there  should be at least 5GB, I give 10..15GB usually - 
depends, how big the whole HDD is. If there is 500GB HDD, the / could be also 20...30GB. Then you 
can install software and don't need to worry - does there enough space. I also try to promote Linux 
as playing environment and games taking usually some gigabytes. Also CAD/CAM, graphics software etc.

/home should be at least 5GB but I give usually 10GB if possible

/data should have the rest of HDD's space and therefore the biggest partition. I mean, if you have 
e.g. 500GB HDD, then it could be more than 400GB large. Certainly, if you have another operating 
system laying on HDD e.g. Windows, then this space could be also smaller but anyway - you have to 
decide, how much you use each operating system and what purposes and then decide, where to leave 
more space.

I e.g. use a lot of virtual machines for testing, teaching, developing, publishing, tech support etc 
purposes, therefore I need at least 2GB, better 4GB RAM and at least 320GB, better 500G HDD. If you 
have also e.g. TV-card and you'll save TV-shows onto HDD - then that /data partition have to be 
enough large to handle all that data.



Then if you save anything into those symlinked folders - they are going straight to that /data 
partition and you don't need to worry about reinstalling whole operating system cleanly or 
overinstalling. If you have any other configuration file or folder - just create the folder 
/data/backup and create symlink to your home directory or where you want if you want.

Certainly - if you are the only one user in that PC - you can just move those folders directly to 
the /data, I mean e.g. /data/Documents etc. If you need later to create additional user(s), then you 
can just leave them to the /home partition of if they have any backupable data, then just create 
e.g. /data/backup/mary and create symlink to Mary's home folder:
sudo ln -s /data/backup/mary /home/mary/backup and say, that everything what is important to save 
there. Or just create /data/backup/mary/documents, delete the old one if it's empty (I assume you 
just created the user mary and this folder should be empty) sudo rm -fr /home/mary/Documents) and 
symlink:
sudo ln -s /data/backup/mary/documents /home/mary/Documents

As you see - there can be many policies, how to organize your and other users data folders to keep 
them backuped onto another partition - each person has to choose what is best for hime/her.

Then if you do fresh or reinstall - just don't touch that /data partition and certainly you have to 
remember, what device it was and also exact size of partition if device names will somehow change to 
identify later that data partition in somewhere installation process if needed.

Certainly, you have to define right mount points during install but not to format them! Just like 
the NTFS partitions of Windows (if you have) - just mount points but not to format.

Then after install just change the owner (sudo chown <user>:<group> /data) and create appopriate 
symlinks and that's it!

Why not whole /home? Because usually if to do clean install, the /home contains also old 
configuration files and it's not comfortable to create after install new user or delete old user's 
conf etc. Much more faster is to keep data on another partition, which has enough space and write 
data to there, e.g. using symlinks to make your life more comfortable under Linux.

I hope, that it was clear and helps you keep further actions and work smoother and more flexible.

Best Regards,
Edmund Laugasson



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 08:01:17 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:01:17 +0200
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <200901060219.22242.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901052040.09585.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901051928.03541.jerryg@gaiser.org>
	<200901060219.22242.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901060001t1b564fe3lc510e752b8fab90@mail.gmail.com>

Please repost that last post in _plain_text_ (not HTML) so that we can
read it. Thanks.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From tuxebi at gmx.de  Tue Jan  6 10:45:58 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:45:58 +0100
Subject: FW: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <gjvcp6$c3b$1@ger.gmane.org>

Ray Burke wrote:
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com; 
> kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com; kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject:
> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:41:54 +1100
> 
> Anyone out there know how to re-install Kubuntu without losing any data
> as been advised by japan solution centre(brother printers) that to resolve
> my problem with the printer dcp130c to work again on Kubuntu ,after 
> initially
> working, but cant seem to re-install drivers, I need to re-install 
> Kubuntu??????????
> 
> ray

Hi Ray,
imho this is complete nonsense, what brother told you.

You do not need to reinstall Linux for any porpose and surely not for a 
printer driver.

This "reinstall cures it all" habit comes from the darkest days of windows.

Which driver did you install for your brother 130 and which one do you 
want to install now?

When you try to install your driver, what happens?

Kind regards
Eberhard




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 10:51:09 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:51:09 +0200
Subject: FW: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <880dece00901060251sc135973j5c32f115915839ea@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/6 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>:
> Anyone out there know how to re-install Kubuntu without losing any data
> as been advised by japan solution centre(brother printers) that to resolve
> my problem with the printer dcp130c to work again on Kubuntu ,after
> initially
> working, but cant seem to re-install drivers, I need to re-install
> Kubuntu??????????
>

1) Backup /home
2) You do not need to reinstall Kubuntu. The idiots on the phone told
you that because there is a very popular operating system in use where
all problem-solving is reduced to "reinstall". That OS is _not_
Debian-based :)

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From tuxebi at gmx.de  Tue Jan  6 10:55:07 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:55:07 +0100
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <200901052022.07798.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49b3a7400901050819x5ea51907uab5185878e4ac378@mail.gmail.com>	<gjtlh9$i0s$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<200901052022.07798.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <gjvdac$dln$1@ger.gmane.org>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> sudo dpkg -i /home/steven/Desktop/webmin_1.441_all.deb
> Don't I have to download that application first?  
First, my advice would be to read my mail. ;-)
cite:
For this you need to download and install WEBMIN.
                      ~~~~~~~~




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  6 11:09:49 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 06:09:49 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901060001t1b564fe3lc510e752b8fab90@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901060219.22242.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901060001t1b564fe3lc510e752b8fab90@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901060609.49422.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Tuesday 06 January 2009 03:01:17 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Please repost that last post in _plain_text_ (not HTML) so that we can
> read it. Thanks.
I reviewed my copy of all emails sent with that subject and could not find any 
that had been sent in HTML.  In fact, I can't remember sending an email in 
HTML for a very long time.  I would resend it if I could find it.  There are 
four; all are plain text.

Steven



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 11:45:49 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:45:49 +0200
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <200901060609.49422.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901060219.22242.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901060001t1b564fe3lc510e752b8fab90@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901060609.49422.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901060345t698ab312o52d808845f308487@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/6 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> On Tuesday 06 January 2009 03:01:17 Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> Please repost that last post in _plain_text_ (not HTML) so that we can
>> read it. Thanks.
> I reviewed my copy of all emails sent with that subject and could not find any
> that had been sent in HTML.  In fact, I can't remember sending an email in
> HTML for a very long time.  I would resend it if I could find it.  There are
> four; all are plain text.
>

Interesting. I apologize. Apparently the message was sent with KMail
1.9.10 as a multipart message. Gmail decided to show the HTML part as
opposed to the plain text part, actually, Gmail seems to be rather
inconsistent in it's choice on the matter between different multipart
messages. I see no problem with sending multipart mail, so long as
there is a plain text version, and if I'm using a dumb client that
cannot find the plain text version, that that is my own damn fault!

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
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ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From mike.lvc06 at centrenet.co.uk  Tue Jan  6 13:08:19 2009
From: mike.lvc06 at centrenet.co.uk (Mike L)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:08:19 +0000
Subject: OT- Strange list behaviour
Message-ID: <496357C3.1060001@centrenet.co.uk>

Hi All,
Today at around 12.45z while downloading my mail I noticed that I'd 
received from this list, in addition to 05/06 Jan 09 mails, a further 26 
with dates going back as far as 09Sept08 then thru Oct/Nov/Dec.

Anybody else ??

Mike LVC



From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 13:56:13 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:56:13 +0200
Subject: CD/DVD no longer opened automatically
Message-ID: <496362FD.8010001@gmail.com>

Kubuntu 8.04.1 and KDE 3.5.10
Using Konqueror as default file manager.

Whenever I inserted a CD or DVD I would nicely be asked what to do with 
it or it would open in Konqi. Today I noticed that nothing happened, the 
disc was just spinning for a while. Tried several CDs,. nothing worked.

Could not even browse them! But K3b would see and mount them... after 
much meddling I managed to get it to mount so I can find a CD or DVD in 
"/media/cdrom0" but no "autoopen". If I unmount/eject the icon stays 
both in "Storage Media" represantion and on Desktop.a

How do I get the "New media found" query back? Have tried scouting 
around both in archives on this list and internet with no luck.

Regards,
Sinclair



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Tue Jan  6 13:56:32 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:56:32 -0400
Subject: No subject
References: <BLU143-W155F608865ADCAB436CB90CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<200901052354.48456.rjlapham@gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W8F51EBF01CA10E6338173CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<200901052342.58301.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<49630A4F.7010101@mail.ee>
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Edmund Laugasson wrote:

> mount point	filesystem	device
> ***********	**********	******
> 1) swap		swap		/dev/sda1 - primary
> 2) /boot	ext3		/dev/sda2 - primary
> 3) /tmp		ext3		/dev/sda3 - primary
> /dev/sda4 - extended partition
> 4) /var		ext3		/dev/sda5 - logical
> 5) /		ext3		/dev/sda6 - logical
> 6) /home	ext3		/dev/sda7 - logical
> 7) /data	ext3		/dev/sda8 - logical
> 
> Swap and /boot should be in the beginning of HDD to boot and swap fast.
> Also /tmp and /var have fastly changing data and are therefore before
> other partitions.

I'm not going to agree or disagree with your partitioning policy, as there are as many options as there are computers, but I have some difficulty with your reasoning for the actual positions.

1) There is no value to putting /boot where it will be accessed quickly (OK, 
a small issue with your policy - I've used /boot partitions, and I no longer 
recommend them.  I believe they cause more trouble than they solve).  Seek 
time is not a factor in "booting quickly", and since /boot is only used 
briefly at system startup, and never again, it actually makes more sense to 
put it on the _slowest_ part of the disk.  Oh, and there's no value (though 
little cost) in making /boot ext3 rather than ext2, as it's essentially 
static.

2) You're right that swap should be where it can be accessed fastest - but 
that's _not_ the beginning of the disk.  If you were to assume that data was 
randomly spread across the disk (not really true, but hard to model), then 
the right place for swap would be in the middle - where it takes the least 
time for the heads to move from either the first or last tracks.

3) Making swap larger and putting /tmp in tmpfs (instead of ext3) neatly 
sidesteps the issue of where to physically place it.

And I guess one more quibble with your partitioning - /data is not a 
standard part of the hierarchy, and if he goes making a partition for it, it 
will in all probability remain empty :-)

otoh, this is all moot for the OP, as I completely agree with everybody else 
that reinstalling is the wrong thing to do.  Oh, Brother! 




From karlok at fastmail.fm  Tue Jan  6 19:14:25 2009
From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:14:25 -0800
Subject: CD/DVD no longer opened automatically
In-Reply-To: <496362FD.8010001@gmail.com>
References: <496362FD.8010001@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4963AD91.4070806@fastmail.fm>

O. Sinclair wrote:
> Kubuntu 8.04.1 and KDE 3.5.10
> Using Konqueror as default file manager.
> 
> Whenever I inserted a CD or DVD I would nicely be asked what to do with 
> it or it would open in Konqi. Today I noticed that nothing happened, the 
> disc was just spinning for a while. Tried several CDs,. nothing worked.
> 
> Could not even browse them! But K3b would see and mount them... after 
> much meddling I managed to get it to mount so I can find a CD or DVD in 
> "/media/cdrom0" but no "autoopen". If I unmount/eject the icon stays 
> both in "Storage Media" represantion and on Desktop.a
> 
> How do I get the "New media found" query back? Have tried scouting 
> around both in archives on this list and internet with no luck.
> 
> Regards,
> Sinclair
> 

One thing to try:

Go to kcontrol -> Service Manager and check if the Media Notifier Daemon 
is running, and if not, start it.

Karl



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  6 19:15:14 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:15:14 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901060345t698ab312o52d808845f308487@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901060609.49422.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901060345t698ab312o52d808845f308487@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901061415.14569.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

Dear Dotan,

I would have to select or choose HTML wouldn't I?  When I reply, I just click 
on the reply button and create and send an email.  A while back I thought it 
might be better to use HTML, because most of my use is GUI, although I am 
trying to change to text.

I just don't want to find that I did send something in HTML without knowing.

Steven




From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  6 19:17:35 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 06:17:35 +1100
Subject: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901060251sc135973j5c32f115915839ea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<880dece00901060251sc135973j5c32f115915839ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU143-W13EB85066089FA1885F04ECDDE0@phx.gbl>


Dotan,
 
So what should I do, you say 1/ back home then what???????
 
ray> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:51:09 +0200> From: dotancohen at gmail.com> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: FW: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data> CC: kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com; kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com> > 2009/1/6 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>:> > Anyone out there know how to re-install Kubuntu without losing any data> > as been advised by japan solution centre(brother printers) that to resolve> > my problem with the printer dcp130c to work again on Kubuntu ,after> > initially> > working, but cant seem to re-install drivers, I need to re-install> > Kubuntu??????????> >> > 1) Backup /home> 2) You do not need to reinstall Kubuntu. The idiots on the phone told> you that because there is a very popular operating system in use where> all problem-solving is reduced to "reinstall". That OS is _not_> Debian-based :)> > -- > Dotan Cohen> > http://what-is-what.com> http://gibberish.co.il> > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת> ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي> А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я> а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я> ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü> -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  6 19:29:46 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:29:46 -0500
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <gjvdac$dln$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901052022.07798.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gjvdac$dln$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200901061429.46222.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Tuesday 06 January 2009 5:55:07 am Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> >> sudo dpkg -i /home/steven/Desktop/webmin_1.441_all.deb
> >
> > Don't I have to download that application first?
>
> First, my advice would be to read my mail. ;-)
> cite:
> For this you need to download and install WEBMIN.
>                       ~~~~~~~~

I googled Webmin download kubuntu hardy.  I got an ubuntu option.  I attempted 
to download the 1.4 version of webmin.  There was "downloading webmin" 
showing of the page, but no progress box on my screen.  That is normal for 
me.  I can not fine it in my computer.  Is Webmin download procedure 
different from other download procedures?  I have tried several of the Google 
sites.

Strangely enough, I have been able to download to my Desktop a Usermin 1.370, 
but not Webmin.

I cannot remember if the email you are referring to was before I lost my email 
records, but I find four emails with your name as sender and none include the 
instructions I remember you sent.

I can't remember what repair was conducted, but one of the repairs that fixed 
a long standing problem I experienced was completed.  In the process, I lost 
all my kmail records:  saved, sent, those I had retained and separated from 
others, like those I received from you, code, computer fixes, everything.

I do not yet understand how to search the archives or even access them, so if 
that is the mechanism of how to find your previous email, I will have to 
figure out how to do that.  I will try now and get back to you.

Steven



From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  6 19:31:00 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 06:31:00 +1100
Subject: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <gjvcp6$c3b$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<gjvcp6$c3b$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <BLU143-W4297922C3B64EB4BE04EBCDDE0@phx.gbl>


Eberhard,
 
I uninstall the drivers via 
sudo dpkg -P dcp130ccupswrapper
sudo dpkg -P dcp130clpr
 
then re- install the same drivers I have copy of via desktop via
dpkg -l --force-all --force-architecture dcp130clpr-1.0.1-1.i386.deb
dpkg -l --force-all --force architecture dcp130ccupswrapper-1.0.1-1.i386.deb
 
then after re-installed I try to print but in the printer window from  the notification bay
after clicking on view the printer status it say the the dcp-130c may not be connected??????
 
ray> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> From: tuxebi at gmx.de> Subject: Re: FW: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:45:58 +0100> > Ray Burke wrote:> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com> > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com; > > kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com; kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com> > Subject:> > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:41:54 +1100> > > > Anyone out there know how to re-install Kubuntu without losing any data> > as been advised by japan solution centre(brother printers) that to resolve> > my problem with the printer dcp130c to work again on Kubuntu ,after > > initially> > working, but cant seem to re-install drivers, I need to re-install > > Kubuntu??????????> > > > ray> > Hi Ray,> imho this is complete nonsense, what brother told you.> > You do not need to reinstall Linux for any porpose and surely not for a > printer driver.> > This "reinstall cures it all" habit comes from the darkest days of windows.> > Which driver did you install for your brother 130 and which one do you > want to install now?> > When you try to install your driver, what happens?> > Kind regards> Eberhard> > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
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From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  6 19:38:56 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 06:38:56 +1100
Subject: No subject
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Constantinos Maltezos kirjutas,
 
That seems alot of mucking around just to fix a problem with my brother printer, as Japan
solution center mainly operate on windows, I dont think theyt understand about re-install,
so there must be a better way????????? to fix the printer to work???????
 
 
ray> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:37:51 +0200> From: ed.lau at mail.ee> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: > > Constantinos Maltezos kirjutas:> > On Monday 05 January 2009 11:08:48 pm Ray Burke wrote:> >> Have been advised by the japan solution center that I must re-install> >> Kubuntu to overcome problem, but dont want to loose any data, and we have> >> gone thru all that is shown in this link many times before?????> > > > What in the world reinstalling your operating system will do to make your > > printer work is beyond me - this isn't Windows. If you do it, don't be > > surprised if you feel you've wasted your time. I could be wrong, of course.> > > > Here's the problem, if there is a real thing that reinstalling Kubuntu would > > do for you, it most likely needs a full, fresh install. This means that if > > you want to keep your data, you'll have to back it up. This might be as easy > > as getting a small thumb drive and copying your documents directory to it (if > > you have no large collection of videos or music files) and might go as far as > > to require creating a backup partition (if you have disk space) to move your > > stuff to while you reinstall.> > If you don't have enough wide e-mail reading window or program - copy the following text into some > text editor, e.g. Kate or gEdit (whatever you use) and the you'll see following tables correctly.> > I suggest to create following partitions:> > mount point filesystem device> *********** ********** ******> 1) swap swap /dev/sda1 - primary> 2) /boot ext3 /dev/sda2 - primary> 3) /tmp ext3 /dev/sda3 - primary> /dev/sda4 - extended partition> 4) /var ext3 /dev/sda5 - logical> 5) / ext3 /dev/sda6 - logical> 6) /home ext3 /dev/sda7 - logical> 7) /data ext3 /dev/sda8 - logical> > Swap and /boot should be in the beginning of HDD to boot and swap fast. Also /tmp and /var have > fastly changing data and are therefore before other partitions.> > If you have also dual boot with Windows, then:> > mount point in Windows filesystem device> *********** ********** ********** ******> 1) /mnt/ntfs-system C: NTFS /dev/sda1 - Windows system> 2) /mnt/ntfs-data D: NTFS /dev/sda2 - data> 3) /mnt/ntfs-swap E: NTFS /dev/sda3 - Windows swap (pagefile.sys)> /dev/sda4 - extended partition> 4) swap swap /dev/sda5 - logical> 5) /boot ext3 /dev/sda6 - logical> 6) /tmp ext3 /dev/sda7 - logical> 7) /var ext3 /dev/sda8 - logical> 8) / ext3 /dev/sda9 - logical> 9) /home ext3 /dev/sda10 - logical> 10) /data ext3 /dev/sda11 - logical> > If you created the user in Linux, e.g. named it "john", then also group will be the same as > username. Then write:> sudo chown -R john:john /data> ... and press enter> > After entering the user john's password, the folder belongs to user john.> > Then create symlink:> ln -s /data /home/john/data> > Then you see the folder "data" in user home directory, which is actually symlink. Save all your > important data there.> > Another option is to create e.g. the folder /data/homes and user folder inside it:> sudo mkdir /data/homes /data/homes/john> sudo chown -R john:john /data> > Then move all your data folders into it and create symlinks to user's home:> mv /home/john/Desktop /data/homes/john/Desktop && ln -s /data/homes/john/Desktop /home/john/Desktop> mv /home/john/Public /data/homes/john/Public && ln -s /data/homes/john/Public /home/john/Public> mv /home/john/Documents /data/homes/john/Documents && ln -s /data/homes/john/Documents > /home/john/Documents> mv /home/john/Music /data/homes/john/Music && ln -s /data/homes/john/Music /home/john/Music> mv /home/john/Pictures /data/homes/john/Pictures && ln -s /data/homes/john/Pictures /home/john/Pictures> mv /home/john/Videos /data/homes/john/Videos && ln -s /data/homes/john/Videos /home/john/Videos> > If you have any other folders, what data you would like to keep - move and create symlinks to them.> > swap could be usualy 2xRAM but if you already have e.g. 2GB RAM, then there is not necessary to > create 4GB swap partition - it's enough if there is 1GB. Normally swap is not used and if it's > heavily used then there is better to add RAM instead of increasing swap partition. RAM is ~20 times > faster than HDD and your computer isn't slow if you have enough RAM.> > /boot could be have 100MB but now are big HDD-s and I give 1GB for /boot to be sure there are enough > room for kernel upgrades.> > /tmp is for temporary files and could be also 1GB if there is not very big HDD but if possible, I > give 3GB or even 5GB> > /var should be 3GB...5GB but if you use also e.g. web server etc. what keep their data in /var - you > could create it larger, e.g. 10GB...15GB. But also you can link e.g. /var/www to /data/www and then > you don't need to have too large /var. You can also use Apache aliases to mount any folder into > Apache tree - http://www.google.com/search?q=apache+alias - look the right manual according your > Apache's version.> > / is the root and there goes system - there should be at least 5GB, I give 10..15GB usually - > depends, how big the whole HDD is. If there is 500GB HDD, the / could be also 20...30GB. Then you > can install software and don't need to worry - does there enough space. I also try to promote Linux > as playing environment and games taking usually some gigabytes. Also CAD/CAM, graphics software etc.> > /home should be at least 5GB but I give usually 10GB if possible> > /data should have the rest of HDD's space and therefore the biggest partition. I mean, if you have > e.g. 500GB HDD, then it could be more than 400GB large. Certainly, if you have another operating > system laying on HDD e.g. Windows, then this space could be also smaller but anyway - you have to > decide, how much you use each operating system and what purposes and then decide, where to leave > more space.> > I e.g. use a lot of virtual machines for testing, teaching, developing, publishing, tech support etc > purposes, therefore I need at least 2GB, better 4GB RAM and at least 320GB, better 500G HDD. If you > have also e.g. TV-card and you'll save TV-shows onto HDD - then that /data partition have to be > enough large to handle all that data.> > > > Then if you save anything into those symlinked folders - they are going straight to that /data > partition and you don't need to worry about reinstalling whole operating system cleanly or > overinstalling. If you have any other configuration file or folder - just create the folder > /data/backup and create symlink to your home directory or where you want if you want.> > Certainly - if you are the only one user in that PC - you can just move those folders directly to > the /data, I mean e.g. /data/Documents etc. If you need later to create additional user(s), then you > can just leave them to the /home partition of if they have any backupable data, then just create > e.g. /data/backup/mary and create symlink to Mary's home folder:> sudo ln -s /data/backup/mary /home/mary/backup and say, that everything what is important to save > there. Or just create /data/backup/mary/documents, delete the old one if it's empty (I assume you > just created the user mary and this folder should be empty) sudo rm -fr /home/mary/Documents) and > symlink:> sudo ln -s /data/backup/mary/documents /home/mary/Documents> > As you see - there can be many policies, how to organize your and other users data folders to keep > them backuped onto another partition - each person has to choose what is best for hime/her.> > Then if you do fresh or reinstall - just don't touch that /data partition and certainly you have to > remember, what device it was and also exact size of partition if device names will somehow change to > identify later that data partition in somewhere installation process if needed.> > Certainly, you have to define right mount points during install but not to format them! Just like > the NTFS partitions of Windows (if you have) - just mount points but not to format.> > Then after install just change the owner (sudo chown <user>:<group> /data) and create appopriate > symlinks and that's it!> > Why not whole /home? Because usually if to do clean install, the /home contains also old > configuration files and it's not comfortable to create after install new user or delete old user's > conf etc. Much more faster is to keep data on another partition, which has enough space and write > data to there, e.g. using symlinks to make your life more comfortable under Linux.> > I hope, that it was clear and helps you keep further actions and work smoother and more flexible.> > Best Regards,> Edmund Laugasson> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
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From jussi01 at ubuntu.com  Tue Jan  6 19:43:19 2009
From: jussi01 at ubuntu.com (Jussi Schultink)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:43:19 +0200
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <200901061429.46222.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901052022.07798.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gjvdac$dln$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<200901061429.46222.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <d03c32900901061143l1439d602x52127baf480b35b8@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Steven Vollom
<stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 January 2009 5:55:07 am Eberhard Roloff wrote:
>> Steven Vollom wrote:
>> >> sudo dpkg -i /home/steven/Desktop/webmin_1.441_all.deb
>> >
>> > Don't I have to download that application first?
>>
>> First, my advice would be to read my mail. ;-)
>> cite:
>> For this you need to download and install WEBMIN.
>>                       ~~~~~~~~
>
> I googled Webmin download kubuntu hardy.  I got an ubuntu option.  I attempted
> to download the 1.4 version of webmin.  There was "downloading webmin"
> showing of the page, but no progress box on my screen.  That is normal for
> me.  I can not fine it in my computer.  Is Webmin download procedure
> different from other download procedures?  I have tried several of the Google
> sites.
>
> Strangely enough, I have been able to download to my Desktop a Usermin 1.370,
> but not Webmin.
>
Hi,

Webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not
compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration
files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. Ebox
is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is
designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management.
See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox
 Hopefully the above info helps. I strongly suggest using ebox.

> I cannot remember if the email you are referring to was before I lost my email
> records, but I find four emails with your name as sender and none include the
> instructions I remember you sent.
>
> I can't remember what repair was conducted, but one of the repairs that fixed
> a long standing problem I experienced was completed.  In the process, I lost
> all my kmail records:  saved, sent, those I had retained and separated from
> others, like those I received from you, code, computer fixes, everything.
>
> I do not yet understand how to search the archives or even access them, so if
> that is the mechanism of how to find your previous email, I will have to
> figure out how to do that.  I will try now and get back to you.
>
> Steven
>
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>
BR

Jussi



From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Tue Jan  6 19:53:28 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 06:53:28 +1100
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <200901052342.58301.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <BLU143-W155F608865ADCAB436CB90CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<200901052354.48456.rjlapham@gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W8F51EBF01CA10E6338173CDDE0@phx.gbl> 
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pandarsson at yahoo.com
 
I want to keep everything I have in Kubuntu as a newbie it took me a long time to build
my dual boot with Kubuntu up, so thats why I dont want to loose any data I have in the
'K'
 
ray> From: pandarsson at yahoo.com> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re:> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:42:57 -0600> > On Monday 05 January 2009 11:08:48 pm Ray Burke wrote:> > Have been advised by the japan solution center that I must re-install> > Kubuntu to overcome problem, but dont want to loose any data, and we have> > gone thru all that is shown in this link many times before?????> > What in the world reinstalling your operating system will do to make your > printer work is beyond me - this isn't Windows. If you do it, don't be > surprised if you feel you've wasted your time. I could be wrong, of course.> > Here's the problem, if there is a real thing that reinstalling Kubuntu would > do for you, it most likely needs a full, fresh install. This means that if > you want to keep your data, you'll have to back it up. This might be as easy > as getting a small thumb drive and copying your documents directory to it (if > you have no large collection of videos or music files) and might go as far as > to require creating a backup partition (if you have disk space) to move your > stuff to while you reinstall.> > Basically, what is it that you have that you want to keep? In what > directories are they stored? What are the large files?> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan  6 20:01:17 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:01:17 -0500
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <gjvdac$dln$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901052022.07798.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gjvdac$dln$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200901061501.17812.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

Dear Eberhard,

This is what I got when I tried to login:

localhost:10000 uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because it is self signed.

(Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer)

      * This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it could 
be someone trying to impersonate the server.

    * If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the error 
may be temporary, and you can try again.

 Or you can add an exception…

I found out how to access the archives and have bookmarked that.  That should 
help a lot.

Do I have to purchase authenticity?  I really can't afford that.  It is seldom 
I would need it, I think.

Steven



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Tue Jan  6 20:14:03 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:14:03 -0500
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W36CF93BECB34C8EFCD9EC0CDDE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W155F608865ADCAB436CB90CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<49630A4F.7010101@mail.ee>
	<BLU143-W36CF93BECB34C8EFCD9EC0CDDE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200901061514.03568.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Tuesday 06 January 2009, Ray Burke wrote:
>Constantinos Maltezos kirjutas,
>
>That seems alot of mucking around just to fix a problem with my brother
> printer, as Japan solution center mainly operate on windows, I dont think
> theyt understand about re-install, so there must be a better way?????????
> to fix the printer to work???????

You must not be talking to the correct office at Brother.  They do support 
linux, and very well IMO.  Send a query with ALL details to this address:

ML_SOLUTION-LINUX at mta.notes.brother.co.jp

Now, I've snipped the rest of this message because its been through somebodies 
(insert your favorite 1+ minute long string of mumbled expletives) windows 
box as html, and the formatting was thrown away, making it unreadable to me.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Simon: "I swear - when it's appropriate."

Kaylee: "Simon, the whole point of swearing is that it ain't appropriate."
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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Tue Jan  6 20:15:47 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:15:47 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W4297922C3B64EB4BE04EBCDDE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>	<gjvcp6$c3b$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<BLU143-W4297922C3B64EB4BE04EBCDDE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <gk0e5i$79d$1@ger.gmane.org>

Ray Burke wrote:
> Eberhard,
>  
> I uninstall the drivers via
> sudo dpkg -P dcp130ccupswrapper
> sudo dpkg -P dcp130clpr
>  
> then re- install the same drivers I have copy of via desktop via
> dpkg -l --force-all --force-architecture dcp130clpr-1.0.1-1.i386.deb
> dpkg -l --force-all --force architecture dcp130ccupswrapper-1.0.1-1.i386.deb
>  
> then after re-installed I try to print but in the printer window from  
> the notification bay
> after clicking on view the printer status it say the the dcp-130c may 
> not be connected??????
>  
> ray

Hi Ray,
well, this look not too bad. If it may be disconnected, at least it is 
there.
Start your brother with http://localhost:631 and then see whether your 
printer is there and is stopped. If it is not there, try to add it. If 
it is disconnected, try to restart it.

What happens?

Lastly, you are well advised to follow the manufacturers installation 
instructions that are easily accessible via the web.

For the driver, go to
http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/instruction_prn3.html
and follow, as appropriate

For the wrapper, go to
http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/instruction_prn1a.html
and follow, as appropriate.

Whith Linux there is no substitute for reading, but there will never 
ever be a need for OS reinstallation.

So once and for all, please forget about that bullshit, that you heard 
from the brother techies. (I apalogize in advance, but I cannot find a 
better word)

Kind regards
Eberhard



> 
> 
>  > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>  > From: tuxebi at gmx.de
>  > Subject: Re: FW: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
>  > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:45:58 +0100
>  >
>  > Ray Burke wrote:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  > > From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com
>  > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com;
>  > > kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com; 
> kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com
>  > > Subject:
>  > > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:41:54 +1100
>  > >
>  > > Anyone out there know how to re-install Kubuntu without losing any data
>  > > as been advised by japan solution centre(brother printers) that to 
> resolve
>  > > my problem with the printer dcp130c to work again on Kubuntu ,after
>  > > initially
>  > > working, but cant seem to re-install drivers, I need to re-install
>  > > Kubuntu??????????
>  > >
>  > > ray
>  >
>  > Hi Ray,
>  > imho this is complete nonsense, what brother told you.
>  >
>  > You do not need to reinstall Linux for any porpose and surely not for a
>  > printer driver.
>  >
>  > This "reinstall cures it all" habit comes from the darkest days of 
> windows.
>  >
>  > Which driver did you install for your brother 130 and which one do you
>  > want to install now?
>  >
>  > When you try to install your driver, what happens?
>  >
>  > Kind regards
>  > Eberhard
>  >
>  >
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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Tue Jan  6 20:16:28 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:16:28 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W13EB85066089FA1885F04ECDDE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>	<880dece00901060251sc135973j5c32f115915839ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W13EB85066089FA1885F04ECDDE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <gk0e6r$79d$2@ger.gmane.org>

Ray Burke wrote:
> Dotan,
>  
> So what should I do, you say 1/ back home then what???????

Read on with 2)   ;-))
>  
> ray
> 
>  > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:51:09 +0200
>  > From: dotancohen at gmail.com
>  > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>  > Subject: Re: FW: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
>  > CC: kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com; 
> kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com
>  >
>  > 2009/1/6 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>:
>  > > Anyone out there know how to re-install Kubuntu without losing any data
>  > > as been advised by japan solution centre(brother printers) that to 
> resolve
>  > > my problem with the printer dcp130c to work again on Kubuntu ,after
>  > > initially
>  > > working, but cant seem to re-install drivers, I need to re-install
>  > > Kubuntu??????????
>  > >
>  >
>  > 1) Backup /home
>  > 2) You do not need to reinstall Kubuntu. The idiots on the phone told
>  > you that because there is a very popular operating system in use where
>  > all problem-solving is reduced to "reinstall". That OS is _not_
>  > Debian-based :)
>  >
>  > --
>  > Dotan Cohen
>  >
>  > http://what-is-what.com
>  > http://gibberish.co.il
>  >
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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Tue Jan  6 20:26:16 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:26:16 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <gk0e5i$79d$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>	<gjvcp6$c3b$1@ger.gmane.org>	<BLU143-W4297922C3B64EB4BE04EBCDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<gk0e5i$79d$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <gk0ep7$79d$3@ger.gmane.org>

Eberhard Roloff wrote:

> Hi Ray,
> well, this look not too bad. If it may be disconnected, at least it is 
> there.
> Start your brother with http://localhost:631 and then see whether your 

Sorry, that surely should read "Start your browser...", slowly brother 
is making it into my brain...... ;-)))))





From dotancohen at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 21:07:37 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:07:37 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W13EB85066089FA1885F04ECDDE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<880dece00901060251sc135973j5c32f115915839ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W13EB85066089FA1885F04ECDDE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <880dece00901061307r24c38ad4m66bece12325f0e7b@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/6 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>:
> Dotan,
>
> So what should I do, you say 1/ back home then what???????
>

Find a better place to help you configure your printer drivers! Don't reinstall!

But in any case, you _should_ be backing up your system regularly. All
user data is in /home so that is the natural place to start for a
backup plan.

-- 
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http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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From dotancohen at gmail.com  Tue Jan  6 21:16:30 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:16:30 +0200
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <200901061415.14569.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901060609.49422.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
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	<200901061415.14569.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901061316i44b59935k32d4ab6195472231@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/6 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> Dear Dotan,
>
> I would have to select or choose HTML wouldn't I?  When I reply, I just click
> on the reply button and create and send an email.  A while back I thought it
> might be better to use HTML, because most of my use is GUI, although I am
> trying to change to text.
>

There is no contradiction between the advantages of plain text email
and GUI usage. It is more of an accessibility issue than a
technological preference. It is also considered manners on *nix
mailing lists not to use HTML mail, not to top post, and all that.

> I just don't want to find that I did send something in HTML without knowing.
>

Nope, you are fine, the problem is with my (known broken) email
client! Carry on! The message was _both_ HTML and plain text. My mail
client should be able to handle the plain text part. ("should" being
the operative word: it should, but it doesn't)

And I apologize!

-- 
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http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  7 00:19:21 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:19:21 -0600
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W4104B7779E67F3A132F899CDDE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W155F608865ADCAB436CB90CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<200901052342.58301.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<BLU143-W4104B7779E67F3A132F899CDDE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200901061819.21652.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Tuesday 06 January 2009 1:53:28 pm Ray Burke wrote:
> pandarsson at yahoo.com
>
> I want to keep everything I have in Kubuntu as a newbie it took me a long
> time to build my dual boot with Kubuntu up, so thats why I dont want to
> loose any data I have in the 'K'

Then don't reinstall.



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 01:07:13 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 03:07:13 +0200
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <200901061819.21652.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <BLU143-W155F608865ADCAB436CB90CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<200901052342.58301.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<BLU143-W4104B7779E67F3A132F899CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<200901061819.21652.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00901061707j21294f4bl576586ede57e5521@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/7 Constantinos Maltezos <pandarsson at yahoo.com>:
> On Tuesday 06 January 2009 1:53:28 pm Ray Burke wrote:
>> pandarsson at yahoo.com
>>
>> I want to keep everything I have in Kubuntu as a newbie it took me a long
>> time to build my dual boot with Kubuntu up, so thats why I dont want to
>> loose any data I have in the 'K'
>
> Then don't reinstall.
>

But backup anyway!

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From mlsoft at videotron.ca  Wed Jan  7 01:44:03 2009
From: mlsoft at videotron.ca (Martin Laberge)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:44:03 -0500
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901061707j21294f4bl576586ede57e5521@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU143-W155F608865ADCAB436CB90CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<200901061819.21652.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<880dece00901061707j21294f4bl576586ede57e5521@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901062044.03583.mlsoft@videotron.ca>

On Tuesday 06 January 2009 20:07:13 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/7 Constantinos Maltezos <pandarsson at yahoo.com>:
> > On Tuesday 06 January 2009 1:53:28 pm Ray Burke wrote:
> >> pandarsson at yahoo.com
> >>
> >> I want to keep everything I have in Kubuntu as a newbie it took me a long
> >> time to build my dual boot with Kubuntu up, so thats why I dont want to
> >> loose any data I have in the 'K'
> >
> > Then don't reinstall.
> >
> 
> But backup anyway!
> 
> -- 
> Dotan Cohen
> 
> http://what-is-what.com
> http://gibberish.co.il
> 
> א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
> ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
> А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
> а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
> ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü


Please do not reinstall your system, (whatever it is)
if you only have a one printer driver problem. 

The maximum drastic event you should be forced to do,
is to correct/reinstall the printing system (cups/drivers)
or at worst, uninstall, and reinstall, the printing system.

the rest of your system seems to work well, then do not disturb
something who work well, only to correct the only thing who do not.

(An humble advice from an old guy)

-- 
Martin Laberge
mlsoft at videotron.ca
Tel:(418)521-6823
30 Years of Unix Admin, and still learning...




From mlsoft at videotron.ca  Wed Jan  7 01:51:27 2009
From: mlsoft at videotron.ca (Martin Laberge)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:51:27 -0500
Subject: FW: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200901062051.27269.mlsoft@videotron.ca>

> Anyone out there know how to re-install Kubuntu without losing any data
> as been advised by japan solution centre(brother printers) that to resolve
> my problem with the printer dcp130c to work again on Kubuntu ,after initially
> working, but cant seem to re-install drivers, I need to re-install Kubuntu??????????
> 
> ray
> 

Just backup your home directory, to keep your user information,
this way.

tar cvzf /tmp/myuser.tgz /home/myuser/

cp /tmp/myuser.tgz /myusbkey/myuser.tgz

You should correct these 2 commands to your likings.

THEN after this, you can reinstall.

And after reboot on the fresh install,
you just log-in, and restore the saved user

cd / ; tar xvzf /myusbkey/myuser.tgz 

You now have the restored user data you had,
but you loosed all the system-config that were there.




-- 
Martin Laberge
mlsoft at videotron.ca
Tel:(418)521-6823
30 Years of Unix Admin, and still learning...



From mlsoft at videotron.ca  Wed Jan  7 02:03:07 2009
From: mlsoft at videotron.ca (Martin Laberge)
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:03:07 -0500
Subject: FW: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200901062103.08072.mlsoft@videotron.ca>

On Monday 05 January 2009 23:49:29 Ray Burke wrote:
> Anyone out there know how to re-install Kubuntu without losing any data
> as been advised by japan solution centre(brother printers) that to resolve
> my problem with the printer dcp130c to work again on Kubuntu ,after initially
> working, but cant seem to re-install drivers, I need to re-install Kubuntu??????????
> 
> ray
> 

in fact you can't.

you can achieve almost all system state than before,
but you will forget to set a system-variable or two.

a complete reinstall of the current state of the system
is a very complex thing. 

much more complex than just a format/install thing

a total reinstall to the same state, includes a total
review of all softwares installed, and their configuration
(both at the user level and the system level)
and CAN BE ACHIEVED with a high level knowledge of
all these softwares running. (http/ftp/ssh/nfs/.../firewalls/.../)

No script exist at this date, as I know it, who could do this.

I am currently working at a system script, who would snapshot a
working system, with configurations, and reimplement it totally,
after a fresh reinstall.

But the situations of a perfectly working system in Linux, are
so diverses, and so differents, that it will allways stand
on a comprehensive study and understanding of a system to be
able to replicate it.

(i.e.: you will have to use your brain, and work hard.)

We can simplify it with scripts, but you have to understand what you do.


-- 
Martin Laberge
mlsoft at videotron.ca
Tel:(418)521-6823
30 Years of Unix Admin, and still learning...



From keithdewitt at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 04:10:46 2009
From: keithdewitt at gmail.com (keith dewitt)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:10:46 -0600
Subject: Install / Boot issues
Message-ID: <e87f86070901062010t4ea01ab1mb69346c0b444f9b7@mail.gmail.com>

ran Ubuntu 8.10 live cd a few times. Decided to install. During
partition install, turned off computer. Needed more info on
partitioning. Got a book, got more info, decided to run live cd again.
It stalled on boot up. Formatted HD, put clean install of WinXP, ran
through alternate cd, got through the installation. Computer reboot
that was required after installation and I am back to same problem.

I get to the splash screen when the orange bar goes left to right,
next splash screen where bar moves only from left to right,sometimes
the bar will stop less than 1/4th the way, other times it will finish
all the way but then I get a blank screen and no blinking light
showing any HD activity. Let it set for almost 2 hours once to see if
boot would continue.

I have spent many hours trying to get around this, so now looking for
help. I figure since I was once able to get to the desktop on live cd,
surf the web, it shouldn't be a hardware/driver problem but....
Checked the .iso, hash, the cd, memory, did a new dl of .iso,made a
new disk, double checked the disk, etc.

After I started to have problems this message came up:
Bios age (1999) fails cut off...acpi=force is required....

I added acpi=force under the f6 option.

As of now, the latest cd I used is Kubuntu, so that is what's
installed on the HD.

Computer specs:
Pentium III 497.8 mhz
Chip set: Intel I440bx
RAM: 512mb
Video: Matrox Millenium g200 agp (open source driver)

Thanks,
Keith



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan  7 04:41:47 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:41:47 -0500
Subject: Is "Content Link" something any of you recognizes?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901061316i44b59935k32d4ab6195472231@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4961C083.6020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901061415.14569.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901061316i44b59935k32d4ab6195472231@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901062341.47802.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> And I apologize!
Please Dotan, never apologize to me.  I am so in your debt for all the help 
you have given me, it hurts to think you need apologize for anything.  You 
are one of the finest people I have met.  You can even hurt me without cost 
to you.  I believe I know your heart.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan  7 04:38:30 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:38:30 -0500
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <d03c32900901061143l1439d602x52127baf480b35b8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901061429.46222.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<d03c32900901061143l1439d602x52127baf480b35b8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901062338.30374.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

> Ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is
> designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management.
> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox
>  Hopefully the above info helps. I strongly suggest using ebox.

Dear Jussi,

Thank you for your kind response.  Jussi, I am an old man, and I cannot afford 
any more monthly expense.  Do I need to purchase something that identifies me 
as a trustworthy site?  If it is more than a small annual fee, I cannot do 
it.  Thank you.

Steven



From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Wed Jan  7 05:17:44 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:17:44 -0800
Subject: Wireless printers
Message-ID: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

Can anyone recommend a good wireless all-in-one printer which will work with 
Kubuntu 8.04?  I need to replace an old Epson Parallel printer and thought a 
wireless would fit the bill nicely.  Problem is everyone tells me how easy 
the printer sets up in windoze and since I don't have windoze they quit 
talking.  I had the same problem with my palm LifeDrive.  It has never been 
updated via a "sync" type program as again no windoze but it connects to any 
wifi point and updates directly with no problem at all!   


-- 
73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n><   PDGA# 35276
http://the-inner-circle.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr



From mickrulist at voipfuture.com  Wed Jan  7 05:33:28 2009
From: mickrulist at voipfuture.com (Michael Krueger)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:33:28 +0100
Subject: Wireless printers
In-Reply-To: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <49643EA8.9000604@voipfuture.com>

Pastor JW schrieb:
> Can anyone recommend a good wireless all-in-one printer which will work with 
> Kubuntu 8.04?  I need to replace an old Epson Parallel printer and thought a 
> wireless would fit the bill nicely.  Problem is everyone tells me how easy 
> the printer sets up in windoze and since I don't have windoze they quit 
> talking.  I had the same problem with my palm LifeDrive.  It has never been 
> updated via a "sync" type program as again no windoze but it connects to any 
> wifi point and updates directly with no problem at all!   
>
>
>   
Hi,

I just got one. It's a Canon MP620. Not sure how it will work with 8.04
but I plan to use 8.10. There is a thread that explains how to set it up.
http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/canon-pixma-mp620-unter-ubuntu-8.10/

But I think that you have to have Windows for the initial setup. The
printer has no way of entering the WLAN secret key. That is done using
the setup tool under Windows. But once it's registered with the WLAN
router the printer does open two ports. 1) Is port 80 for Web Statistic
page, 2) is port 139 - which is netbios. So I think you should be able
to access the printer using CUPS/SMB protocoll.
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Printing_via_SMB_(Samba)_Share_or_Windows_Share

But since I got the printer just a few days ago, I haven't tried that
myself. Btw. the Canon has also a wireline network port. So you can even
install it some place where you don't have WLAN but a network cable around.

Currently I'm stuck downloading the MP610 Linux drivers from the Canon
homepage... I get 404 errors and have opened a ticket with them.

Regards,
Michael



From rjlapham at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 06:00:36 2009
From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 01:00:36 -0500
Subject: Wireless printers
In-Reply-To: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <200901070100.36587.rjlapham@gmail.com>

On Wednesday 07 January 2009 12:17:44 am Pastor JW wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a good wireless all-in-one printer which will work
> with Kubuntu 8.04?  I need to replace an old Epson Parallel printer and
> thought a wireless would fit the bill nicely.  Problem is everyone tells me
> how easy the printer sets up in windoze and since I don't have windoze they
> quit talking.  I had the same problem with my palm LifeDrive.  It has never
> been updated via a "sync" type program as again no windoze but it connects
> to any wifi point and updates directly with no problem at all!

Most HP printers should work.  Kubuntu includes HPLIP for managing them.  See 
<http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html> for more info.

	-Jerry
-- 
=============================================
Jerry Lapham
Monroe, OH  45050
rjlapham at gmail.com
=============================================
Studying Keynesian economics is like studying flat-earth geography.



From hvontres at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 07:33:58 2009
From: hvontres at gmail.com (Hans Henry von Tresckow)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:33:58 -0800
Subject: Wireless printers
In-Reply-To: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <a7f8874a0901062333wd45cab6u5b3c421306d9c6d0@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Pastor JW
<pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org> wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a good wireless all-in-one printer which will work with
> Kubuntu 8.04?  I need to replace an old Epson Parallel printer and thought a
> wireless would fit the bill nicely.  Problem is everyone tells me how easy
> the printer sets up in windoze and since I don't have windoze they quit
> talking.  I had the same problem with my palm LifeDrive.  It has never been
> updated via a "sync" type program as again no windoze but it connects to any
> wifi point and updates directly with no problem at all!
>
>
> --
> 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n><   PDGA# 35276
> http://the-inner-circle.org
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
> http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr
>
> --
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> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>

I have a HP OfficeJet L7590. It's not wireless by default, but it has
a built in ethernet port and I plugged it into my Wireless Router
instead. It took maybe 10-15 minutes to get it set up in Hardy (8.04).
In fact, it was WAY easier to set up in Linux than it was in XP :)
Scanning and Printing work great from linux. I haven't tried the fax
feature from the computer yet. As an added bonus, the scanner has a
document feeder and it comes with a duplexing attachment for double
sided printing.

-- 
Henry von Tresckow (hvontres)
Everett Dirksen  - "A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon
you're talking about real money."



From magick.crow at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 10:57:57 2009
From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:57:57 +0100
Subject: How to install 2 ubuntus on one drive
Message-ID: <f495db580901070257r26876000s1f06ccd05a04792d@mail.gmail.com>

Hello and thanks for all the coming help!
So I have a nice working install but I would like to make a new partition
(easy for me to do) and install Kubuntu 9.04
How do I do this? Is there a good link about it?
So I will end up with a duel boot system, I don't have any MS so no worries
there. Can I do this without burning the CD? Can I do it from my current
8.04 Kubuntu or Ubuntu, by mounting the 9.10.iso or something like that?
Best,
-- 
Douglas E Knapp

Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!!
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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Wed Jan  7 12:01:52 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:01:52 +0100
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <200901061501.17812.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901052022.07798.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<gjvdac$dln$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<200901061501.17812.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <gk25ji$7v9$1@ger.gmane.org>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> Dear Eberhard,
> 
> This is what I got when I tried to login:
> 
> localhost:10000 uses an invalid security certificate.
> 
> The certificate is not trusted because it is self signed.
> 
> (Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer)
> 
>       * This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it could 
> be someone trying to impersonate the server.
> 
>     * If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the error 
> may be temporary, and you can try again.
> 
>  Or you can add an exception…
> 
> I found out how to access the archives and have bookmarked that.  That should 
> help a lot.
> 
> Do I have to purchase authenticity?  I really can't afford that.  It is seldom 
> I would need it, I think.
> 
> Steven
> 
Hi Steven,

take a cup of tea and relax. There is nothing you will need to buy or 
pay for.

Just add the exception as noted in the error warning and you are done.

Kind regards
Eberhard




From jonorland at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 13:07:11 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:07:11 +0100
Subject: Install / Boot issues
In-Reply-To: <e87f86070901062010t4ea01ab1mb69346c0b444f9b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e87f86070901062010t4ea01ab1mb69346c0b444f9b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901070507o7a89bd36qf9b0ee94cc97a64e@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/7 keith dewitt <keithdewitt at gmail.com>:
> ran Ubuntu 8.10 live cd a few times. Decided to install. During
> partition install, turned off computer. Needed more info on
> partitioning. Got a book, got more info, decided to run live cd again.
> It stalled on boot up. Formatted HD, put clean install of WinXP, ran
> through alternate cd, got through the installation. Computer reboot
> that was required after installation and I am back to same problem.
>
> I get to the splash screen when the orange bar goes left to right,
> next splash screen where bar moves only from left to right,sometimes
> the bar will stop less than 1/4th the way, other times it will finish
> all the way but then I get a blank screen and no blinking light
> showing any HD activity. Let it set for almost 2 hours once to see if
> boot would continue.
>
> I have spent many hours trying to get around this, so now looking for
> help. I figure since I was once able to get to the desktop on live cd,
> surf the web, it shouldn't be a hardware/driver problem but....
> Checked the .iso, hash, the cd, memory, did a new dl of .iso,made a
> new disk, double checked the disk, etc.
>
> After I started to have problems this message came up:
> Bios age (1999) fails cut off...acpi=force is required....
>
> I added acpi=force under the f6 option.
>
> As of now, the latest cd I used is Kubuntu, so that is what's
> installed on the HD.
>
> Computer specs:
> Pentium III 497.8 mhz
> Chip set: Intel I440bx
> RAM: 512mb
> Video: Matrox Millenium g200 agp (open source driver)
>
> Thanks,
> Keith
>

Have you tried to start in recovery mode? You can also try to remove
the quit and splash options from the kernel row in the Grub boot menu.
Both suggestions will give you more output when trying to debug the
cause. Also look at the log files in /var/log for clues.

/ Jonas



From jonorland at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 16:13:35 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:13:35 +0100
Subject: Error running KDE3 programs after todays update?
Message-ID: <b8d784880901070813g73e61d47t680c92abe7dbbefa@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

Do you get a error running KDE3 programs after todays update?
Started up this morning, installed todays updates, rebooted because of
the nvidia update and now i cant start what looks like KDE3
application only. I get this error running from a console "error while
loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: unexpected PLT reloc
type 0x17". Tried with Amarok, K3b and Krename.

/ Jonas



From paul at lemmons.name  Wed Jan  7 16:25:14 2009
From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:25:14 -0700
Subject: Wireless printers
In-Reply-To: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <4964D76A.4080905@lemmons.name>

-------- Original Message  --------
Subject: Wireless printers
From: Pastor JW <pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org>
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Date: 01/06/2009 10:17 PM
> Can anyone recommend a good wireless all-in-one printer which will work with 
> Kubuntu 8.04?  I need to replace an old Epson Parallel printer and thought a 
> wireless would fit the bill nicely.  Problem is everyone tells me how easy 
> the printer sets up in windoze and since I don't have windoze they quit 
> talking.  I had the same problem with my palm LifeDrive.  It has never been 
> updated via a "sync" type program as again no windoze but it connects to any 
> wifi point and updates directly with no problem at all!   
>
>
>   
I have set up three different HP wireless printers for use with Kubuntu 
8.04 and 8.10. HPLIP makes it sooooooo much simpler than the windows 
driver install.

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From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Wed Jan  7 18:45:24 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:45:24 -0500
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <200901062338.30374.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<d03c32900901061143l1439d602x52127baf480b35b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901062338.30374.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
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On Tuesday 06 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
> Thank you for your kind response.  Jussi, I am an old man, and I cannot
> afford any more monthly expense.  Do I need to purchase something that
> identifies me as a trustworthy site?  If it is more than a small annual
> fee, I cannot do it.  Thank you.

I think you're going to find that *any* configuration program, be it webmin or 
Ebox, is going to require you to know a LOT about configuring.

There is no magic bullet for configuration.

I don't use webmin any more for this reason.  Too many knobs and twiddles that 
I don't know about.   I do most of my configuring manually.



From wayward4now at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 19:05:54 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:05:54 -0500
Subject: Problem playing a DVD
In-Reply-To: <200901051204.05918.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901050617.40730.michael@weblore.com>
	<b8d784880901050424q6d3568c5p1085d6bcf3dd7d5c@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901050656.26907.michael@weblore.com>
	<200901051204.05918.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1231355154.4529.90.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 12:04 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 05 January 2009, Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> >On Monday 05 January 2009 06:24:24 am Jonas Norlander wrote:
> >> 2009/1/5 Michael Satterwhite <michael at weblore.com>:
> >> > I have a DVD that I'd like to be able to play on my system. When I look
> >> > at the directory structure on it, I find that the VIDEO_TS directory
> >> > doesn't have execute permission ... IOW I can't list the contents. I
> >> > have libdvd installed, but I'm not sure how to get past this problem.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone offer any help?
> >>
> >> You don't need to mount a DVD-Video to play it (same for Audio CD).
> >> Just pop it in the reader and choose play DVD in Kaffeine. If the DVD
> >> is encrypted you need the libdvdcss2 library from the
> >> http://www.medibuntu.org/ repository read up on there site how to add
> >> it.
> >
> >That would be great ... if Kaffeine actually worked (at least in my
> >installation - I'm sure it's working properly in yours). My DVD drive
> >is /dev/scd0. For whatever reason Kaffeine insists on trying to open sdb5 -
> >which has nothing on it. I do have libdvdcss2 installed. If I could open the
> >directory, I could manually select the video file to play. As it is, it's
> >Kaffeine is unusable with this DVD.
> 
> I had some trouble with kaffeine here, and finally built 0.8.7, which although 
> not terrible stable watching tv using the xine engine (gstreamer isn't 
> supported by my video card yet), I had no trouble playing a cd with it just 
> now, and that cd, a 2 disk set, has a dvd of one song too, and it, when I 
> click on the open dvd button, plays nicely.  I checked in my 
> ~/.kde/share/config/kaffeinerc, and the drive is not specified.
> 
> So you may want to try a newer kaffeine.

I think you want to check your xine install. kaffine kinda rides on top
of xine. So, in my ~/.xine/config I find 

"# directory a media in dvd device will be mounted
# string, default: /dvd
#gui.osdmenu.dvd_mountpoint:/dvd

...which appears to be broken as hell. cdrom seems to be set correctly
but not used. weird. 
# device used for CD audio
# string, default: /dev/cdrom
#media.audio_cd.device:/dev/cdrom

:) Ric

-- 

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"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Wed Jan  7 19:16:06 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 06:16:06 +1100
Subject: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901061307r24c38ad4m66bece12325f0e7b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<880dece00901060251sc135973j5c32f115915839ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W13EB85066089FA1885F04ECDDE0@phx.gbl> 
	<880dece00901061307r24c38ad4m66bece12325f0e7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU143-W368322C9055AE5B596A0FACDDF0@phx.gbl>


Dotan,
 
OK wont do a re-install, will try and figure out to re-install the printer drivers,
how do I do a copy of my complete system like in windows xp pro????????
 
ray> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:07:37 +0200> From: dotancohen at gmail.com> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data> > 2009/1/6 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>:> > Dotan,> >> > So what should I do, you say 1/ back home then what???????> >> > Find a better place to help you configure your printer drivers! Don't reinstall!> > But in any case, you _should_ be backing up your system regularly. All> user data is in /home so that is the natural place to start for a> backup plan.> > -- > Dotan Cohen> > http://what-is-what.com> http://gibberish.co.il> > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת> ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي> А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я> а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я> ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü> -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
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From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Wed Jan  7 19:27:08 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 06:27:08 +1100
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <200901052354.48456.rjlapham@gmail.com>
References: <BLU143-W155F608865ADCAB436CB90CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<200901052354.48456.rjlapham@gmail.com>
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jerry,

I have sited the web site you mention and done the things it suggests, but still unable
to print as says again mybe the dcp-130c my not be connected, I am trying also
to resolve the problem withe the japanese solution center?????

ray

> From: rjlapham at gmail.com
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re:
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:54:48 -0500
> 
> On Monday 05 January 2009 11:41:54 pm Ray Burke wrote:
> 
> > Anyone out there know how to re-install Kubuntu without losing any data
> > as been advised by japan solution centre(brother printers) that to resolve
> > my problem with the printer dcp130c to work again on Kubuntu ,after
> > initially working, but cant seem to re-install drivers, I need to
> > re-install Kubuntu??????????
> >
> > ray
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> Have you tried going to <http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html>?
> 
> 	-Jerry
> -- 
> =============================================
> Jerry Lapham
> Monroe, OH  45050
> rjlapham at gmail.com
> =============================================
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From gkourtev at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 19:31:33 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 21:31:33 +0200
Subject: K3b ripping problem
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901050638i7f8e9b10k29fca433305b7d64@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901042301.35263.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<49616A5F.6070602@gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901050638i7f8e9b10k29fca433305b7d64@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901072131.33877.gkourtev@gmail.com>

Did all that but still doesn't help :(


On Monday 05 January 2009 16:38:20 Jonas Norlander wrote:
> 2009/1/5 Art Alexion <art.alexion at gmail.com>:
> > On 01/04/2009 Paul Lemmons wrote:
> >> sudo apt-get install lame
> >
> > Its
> >
> > sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
> >
> > while you are at it, you may also want to install libk3b2-extracodecs.
>
> The OP don't say what Kubuntu version hes running. On my Intrepid i
> got this package:
> jonas at intrepid-amd9650:~$ apt-cache search libk3b
> libk3b-dev - The KDE cd burning application library - development files
> libk3b3 - The KDE cd burning application library - runtime files
> libk3b3-extracodecs - The KDE cd burning application library - extra
> decoders libk3b2-extracodecs - transitional package for K3b's extra
> decoders
>
> libk3b2-extracodecs is a dummy package depending on libk3b3-extracodecs.
>
> / Jonas


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From jonorland at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 20:31:58 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 21:31:58 +0100
Subject: [Solved] Re: Error running KDE3 programs after todays update?
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901070813g73e61d47t680c92abe7dbbefa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b8d784880901070813g73e61d47t680c92abe7dbbefa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901071231q4c1c222aibefbc5e3b28d2215@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/7 Jonas Norlander <jonorland at gmail.com>:
> Hi!
>
> Do you get a error running KDE3 programs after todays update?
> Started up this morning, installed todays updates, rebooted because of
> the nvidia update and now i cant start what looks like KDE3
> application only. I get this error running from a console "error while
> loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: unexpected PLT reloc
> type 0x17". Tried with Amarok, K3b and Krename.
>
> / Jonas
>

It turned out that it was a damaged file. Running debsums (did not
know of that program before) gave me this:
jonas at intrepid-amd9650:~$ debsums libqt3-mt
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8                                                FAILED
/usr/lib/libqui.so.1.0.0                                                      OK
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/imageformats/libqmng.so                                  OK
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/inputmethods/libqimsw-multi.so                           OK
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/inputmethods/libqimsw-none.so                            OK
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/inputmethods/libqsimple.so                               OK
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/inputmethods/libqxim.so                                  OK
/usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt/changelog.gz                                         OK
/usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt/README                                               OK
/usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt/README.immodule                                      OK
/usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt/README-QT.TXT                                        OK
/usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt/PLATFORMS                                            OK
/usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt/copyright                                            OK
/usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt/README.Debian.gz                                     OK
/usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt/changelog.Debian.gz                                  OK

Reinstalling libqt3-mt fixed the damaged file and i can now run KDE3
programs again.

/ Jonas



From mickrulist at voipfuture.com  Wed Jan  7 21:45:17 2009
From: mickrulist at voipfuture.com (Michael Krueger)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:45:17 +0100
Subject: Wireless printers
In-Reply-To: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <4965226D.9060501@voipfuture.com>

Pastor JW schrieb:
> Can anyone recommend a good wireless all-in-one printer which will work with 
> Kubuntu 8.04?  I need to replace an old Epson Parallel printer and thought a 
> wireless would fit the bill nicely.  Problem is everyone tells me how easy 
> the printer sets up in windoze and since I don't have windoze they quit 
> talking.  I had the same problem with my palm LifeDrive.  It has never been 
> updated via a "sync" type program as again no windoze but it connects to any 
> wifi point and updates directly with no problem at all!   
>
>
>   
I started my journey to install the Canon PIXMAP MP620 wireless
printer... you can follow the progress here:
http://www.michael-krueger.org/
I finish for today, but have the printer working using USB cable...
tomorrow I hope to be able to use it wireless ;-)


Regards,
Michael



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan  7 22:04:49 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:04:49 -0500
Subject: I need help installing a .deb package.
In-Reply-To: <gk25ji$7v9$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901051110.44857.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901061501.17812.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gk25ji$7v9$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200901071704.49996.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


>
> Just add the exception as noted in the error warning and you are done.
And how do I do that?  I can't even find Ebox in Kmenu.

Steven




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan  7 22:19:14 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:19:14 -0500
Subject: Can't find package Ebox in my computer.
Message-ID: <200901071719.15136.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

It was recommended that I install ebox in my computer to help with 
configuration.  I installed 92 packages of and relating to ebox, but none of 
them show up on Kmenu.  Additionally, when I click on Alt+F2 and type in 
ebox, I get the following 'could not run specified command'.  When I type 
ebox into the Konsole, I get the following:  
steven at Studio25:~$ ebox
bash: ebox: command not found
steven at Studio25:~$

How do I locate the program?

Steven




From jonorland at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 22:48:01 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 23:48:01 +0100
Subject: Can't find package Ebox in my computer.
In-Reply-To: <200901071719.15136.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901071719.15136.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901071448j7006e692oec19cfcc69073ba4@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/7 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> It was recommended that I install ebox in my computer to help with
> configuration.  I installed 92 packages of and relating to ebox, but none of
> them show up on Kmenu.  Additionally, when I click on Alt+F2 and type in
> ebox, I get the following 'could not run specified command'.  When I type
> ebox into the Konsole, I get the following:
> steven at Studio25:~$ ebox
> bash: ebox: command not found
> steven at Studio25:~$
>
> How do I locate the program?
>
> Steven
>

eBox is a web application that means that you have to run on a web
server and access it with a web browser. Check that you have apache
running then write this url in your browsers address field
https://localhost/eBox You have a userguide here
http://ebox-platform.com/usersguide/en/html/ebox-userguide-book.html

Good luck

/ Jonas



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Wed Jan  7 23:03:04 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 01:03:04 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W368322C9055AE5B596A0FACDDF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<880dece00901060251sc135973j5c32f115915839ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W13EB85066089FA1885F04ECDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<880dece00901061307r24c38ad4m66bece12325f0e7b@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W368322C9055AE5B596A0FACDDF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <880dece00901071503t596a5deamf32f593d7a3d3c93@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/7 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>:
> Dotan,
>
> OK wont do a re-install, will try and figure out to re-install the printer
> drivers,
> how do I do a copy of my complete system like in windows xp pro????????
>
> ray
>

I do not know about Windows XP, but you can copy your complete system
with "sudo cp / place_to_copy".

If it is just user data that you want to back up (not programs), then
you can just copy "/home/user". You can even get creative with tar to
save space, and encrypt the data for offsite storage.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Wed Jan  7 23:19:23 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:19:23 -0500
Subject: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901071503t596a5deamf32f593d7a3d3c93@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU143-W368322C9055AE5B596A0FACDDF0@phx.gbl>
	<880dece00901071503t596a5deamf32f593d7a3d3c93@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901071819.23774.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Wednesday 07 January 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/7 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>:
> > Dotan,
> >
> > OK wont do a re-install, will try and figure out to re-install the
> > printer drivers,
> > how do I do a copy of my complete system like in windows xp pro????????
> >
> > ray
>
> I do not know about Windows XP, but you can copy your complete system
> with "sudo cp / place_to_copy".

I don't think this will do a very good job....   No recursing of directories 
and it will places all the files into one place_to_copy



From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Thu Jan  8 04:31:57 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:31:57 +1100
Subject: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <200901071819.23774.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU143-W368322C9055AE5B596A0FACDDF0@phx.gbl>
	<880dece00901071503t596a5deamf32f593d7a3d3c93@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200901071819.23774.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <BLU143-W41C2045FECB6B6C8FC661CCDDC0@phx.gbl>


Bruce,
 
where will it put the copy or do I have to specify??????
 
ray> From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:19:23 -0500> > On Wednesday 07 January 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:> > 2009/1/7 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>:> > > Dotan,> > >> > > OK wont do a re-install, will try and figure out to re-install the> > > printer drivers,> > > how do I do a copy of my complete system like in windows xp pro????????> > >> > > ray> >> > I do not know about Windows XP, but you can copy your complete system> > with "sudo cp / place_to_copy".> > I don't think this will do a very good job.... No recursing of directories > and it will places all the files into one place_to_copy> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
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From amitrnaik at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 04:45:45 2009
From: amitrnaik at gmail.com (amit naik)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:15:45 +0530
Subject: not able to configure internet connection in kubuntu
Message-ID: <78c28b810901072045r762ce986l9d868db178a181d2@mail.gmail.com>





From amitrnaik at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 04:52:11 2009
From: amitrnaik at gmail.com (amit naik)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:22:11 +0530
Subject: not able to configure internet connection in kubuntu
Message-ID: <78c28b810901072052j1f9d7a5bsd7f3e1a733dbbab5@mail.gmail.com>

i have an adsl broadband connection.i am not able to connect to internet.
i read the documentation on the site abt creating a pppoe
configuration.i downloaded the pppoe pakage.now everything works fine
in the terminal, i can ping to my isp IP and it shows that i'm
connected.but when i load the webpages in konqueror or start K-torrent
it doesn't load anything
as if i'm not connected.
i also read abt editing the /etc/resolv.conf but i am not able to save
any changes that i make.
so i am not able to insert my DNS addresses there.
please reply me and help me

thanx in advance..!!



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan  8 05:29:53 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 00:29:53 -0500
Subject: Can't find package Ebox in my computer.
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901071448j7006e692oec19cfcc69073ba4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901071719.15136.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901071448j7006e692oec19cfcc69073ba4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901080029.53609.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> eBox is a web application that means that you have to run on a web
> server and access it with a web browser. Check that you have apache
> running then write this url in your browsers address field
> https://localhost/eBox You have a userguide here
> http://ebox-platform.com/usersguide/en/html/ebox-userguide-book.html
 Dear Jonas,

I didn't know I had installed apache, however, I checked and it is installed 
on this computer.  I looked for it in Kmenu and couldn't find it.  I Alt+f2 
and got 'could not run specific command'.

When I clicked on the link you provided 'https://localhost/ eBox, I got:
The server certificate failed the authenticity test (localhost).  When I 
clicked on Details I got:  Certificate is self-signed and thus may not be 
trustworthy.  The Certificate has not been issued for this host.

Under peer certificate:  It says Common name: eBox Server
Under Issuer:  It says Common name: eBox Server

Under IP address:  127.0.0.1
URL:                      https://localhost:443

I really don't understand what any of this means.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan  8 05:46:58 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 00:46:58 -0500
Subject: How can I find if I have Read/Write permission in Wine-Windows
	Registry?
Message-ID: <200901080046.58800.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I enjoy a bible program called e-Sword.  I have been using it pretty much 
trouble free for quite some time.  

Each time I close the package though, it reopens in a random place.  I do not 
have the random choice selected, so it should not do that.  

I contacted e-Sword, and they said it should return to the place I left, if I 
have read/write permission in the registry.  

I use Wine to operate this Windows program.  Does anyone know how to check the 
registry to see if permissions are there for read/write?  If so, and they are 
not authorized, can you tell me how to create read/write permission?

I looked through the registry for Wine and e-Sword, found them in two places, 
but under e-Sword there was no mention of read/write permissions.

Steven



From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Thu Jan  8 06:07:30 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 22:07:30 -0800
Subject: Wireless printers
In-Reply-To: <a7f8874a0901062333wd45cab6u5b3c421306d9c6d0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<a7f8874a0901062333wd45cab6u5b3c421306d9c6d0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901072207.30602.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Tuesday 06 January 2009 11:33:58 pm Hans Henry von Tresckow wrote:
>
> I have a HP OfficeJet L7590. It's not wireless by default, but it has
> a built in ethernet port and I plugged it into my Wireless Router
> instead. It took maybe 10-15 minutes to get it set up in Hardy (8.04).
> In fact, it was WAY easier to set up in Linux than it was in XP :)
> Scanning and Printing work great from linux. I haven't tried the fax
> feature from the computer yet. As an added bonus, the scanner has a
> document feeder and it comes with a duplexing attachment for double
> sided printing.

Thanks for the answers!  Sounds like HP at least has a bit of enlightenment!  
What do you think of an OfficeJet J6480?  What info did you need to set your 
printer up for Ethernet?  I did contact Kodak but they told me they had zero 
interest in making their printers Linux compatible.  I believe I'll spend my 
money with a company which at least has a little better attitude.  I am 
really tired of giving my money to unresponsive companies.



-- 
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http://the-inner-circle.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr



From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 06:41:24 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:41:24 +0200
Subject: Can't find package Ebox in my computer.
In-Reply-To: <200901071719.15136.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901071719.15136.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4965A014.7040908@gmail.com>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> It was recommended that I install ebox in my computer to help with 
> configuration.  I installed 92 packages of and relating to ebox, but none of 
> them show up on Kmenu.  Additionally, when I click on Alt+F2 and type in 
> ebox, I get the following 'could not run specified command'.  When I type 
> ebox into the Konsole, I get the following:  
> steven at Studio25:~$ ebox
> bash: ebox: command not found
> steven at Studio25:~$
> 
> How do I locate the program?
Dear Steven,
Ebox is a server hosting configuration "package", are you setting up 
your computer as a server? You find info about Ebox here:
http://ebox-platform.com/

I am running this system on a server elsewhere (that is not where I 
normally work and reside) and for that one you  normally first install 
the Ubuntu server version and then Ebox OR you download an iso cd image 
built for Ebox specifically.

I can think of no benefits running this system on a "normal" user GUI 
system.

Best,
Sinclair



From hvontres at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 07:09:56 2009
From: hvontres at gmail.com (Hans Henry von Tresckow)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 23:09:56 -0800
Subject: Wireless printers
In-Reply-To: <200901072207.30602.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<a7f8874a0901062333wd45cab6u5b3c421306d9c6d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901072207.30602.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <a7f8874a0901072309m6d8699c7y39e27b4a95b604fd@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Pastor JW
<pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org> wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 January 2009 11:33:58 pm Hans Henry von Tresckow wrote:
>>
>> I have a HP OfficeJet L7590. It's not wireless by default, but it has
>> a built in ethernet port and I plugged it into my Wireless Router
>> instead. It took maybe 10-15 minutes to get it set up in Hardy (8.04).
>> In fact, it was WAY easier to set up in Linux than it was in XP :)
>> Scanning and Printing work great from linux. I haven't tried the fax
>> feature from the computer yet. As an added bonus, the scanner has a
>> document feeder and it comes with a duplexing attachment for double
>> sided printing.
>
> Thanks for the answers!  Sounds like HP at least has a bit of enlightenment!
> What do you think of an OfficeJet J6480?  What info did you need to set your
> printer up for Ethernet?  I did contact Kodak but they told me they had zero
> interest in making their printers Linux compatible.  I believe I'll spend my
> money with a company which at least has a little better attitude.  I am
> really tired of giving my money to unresponsive companies.
>
Since the printer uses DHCP, all you need to do is plug it into the
router and it gets an ethernet address asigned. You probably want to
set up the router to always give the same IP address to the printer so
it doesn't keep changing. I have no clue how hard the wireless setup
is.

-- 
Henry von Tresckow (hvontres)
Joan Crawford  - "I, Joan Crawford, I believe in the dollar.
Everything I earn, I spend."



From karlok at fastmail.fm  Thu Jan  8 07:57:13 2009
From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:57:13 -0800
Subject: not able to configure internet connection in kubuntu
In-Reply-To: <78c28b810901072052j1f9d7a5bsd7f3e1a733dbbab5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78c28b810901072052j1f9d7a5bsd7f3e1a733dbbab5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4965B1D9.6000504@fastmail.fm>

amit naik wrote:
> i also read abt editing the /etc/resolv.conf but i am not able to save
> any changes that i make.
> so i am not able to insert my DNS addresses there.
> 
I don't know anything about adsl , but I can tell you that to make 
changes to system files you need "super user" privilege.  To use a text 
mode editor like nano with super user privilege, use the sudo command in 
a terminal, e.g.:

	sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf

You will be asked for your user password.

To use a graphic mode editor like kate, use the kdesu command.  Press 
alt-F2 and type in the command
	
	kdesu kate /etc/resolv.conf

Again you will be asked for your user password.

HTH, Karl



From fmause_1999 at yahoo.de  Thu Jan  8 08:13:03 2009
From: fmause_1999 at yahoo.de (Frank Mause)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 08:13:03 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: AW: not able to configure internet connection in kubuntu
References: <78c28b810901072052j1f9d7a5bsd7f3e1a733dbbab5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <589813.31647.qm@web25408.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>


________________________________

Hi, 

did you do :

sudo pppoeconf ?
And did you fill in the needed data ?

Or did the program tell you something like :No net-card found ?



i have an adsl broadband connection.i am not able to connect to internet.
i read the documentation on the site abt creating a pppoe
configuration.i downloaded the pppoe pakage.now everything works fine
in the terminal, i can ping to my isp IP and it shows that i'm
connected.but when i load the webpages in konqueror or start K-torrent
it doesn't load anything
as if i'm not connected.
i also read abt editing the /etc/resolv.conf but i am not able to save
any changes that i make.
so i am not able to insert my DNS addresses there.
please reply me and help me

thanx in advance..!!

-- 
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kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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From dotancohen at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 09:31:27 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:31:27 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <200901071819.23774.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU143-W368322C9055AE5B596A0FACDDF0@phx.gbl>
	<880dece00901071503t596a5deamf32f593d7a3d3c93@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901071819.23774.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00901080131j21298451s39ac842d36a43688@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/8 Bruce Marshall <bmarsh at bmarsh.com>:
> I don't think this will do a very good job....   No recursing of directories
> and it will places all the files into one place_to_copy
>

It was meant as a starting point, not as a solution. I don't even
expect the OP to do it via the CLI, but rather in Konqueror or some
other file manager.

-- 
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http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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From jonorland at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 09:53:49 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:53:49 +0100
Subject: not able to configure internet connection in kubuntu
In-Reply-To: <78c28b810901072052j1f9d7a5bsd7f3e1a733dbbab5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78c28b810901072052j1f9d7a5bsd7f3e1a733dbbab5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901080153u35d76098gce4fe63d9086b56a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/8 amit naik <amitrnaik at gmail.com>:
> i have an adsl broadband connection.i am not able to connect to internet.
> i read the documentation on the site abt creating a pppoe
> configuration.i downloaded the pppoe pakage.now everything works fine
> in the terminal, i can ping to my isp IP and it shows that i'm
> connected.but when i load the webpages in konqueror or start K-torrent
> it doesn't load anything
> as if i'm not connected.
> i also read abt editing the /etc/resolv.conf but i am not able to save
> any changes that i make.
> so i am not able to insert my DNS addresses there.
> please reply me and help me
>
> thanx in advance..!!
>

You say you can ping your ISP but can you ping anything else out of
there net? Can you surf there sites? I assume you get your IP with
DHCP? What IP, DNS, Netmask and Gateway do you get in that case? And
are they right? /etc/resolv.conf is updated by DHCP if you using it so
it will be overwritten every time your IP is updated.

/ Jonas



From hvralpha at intekom.co.za  Thu Jan  8 09:55:17 2009
From: hvralpha at intekom.co.za (Hein van Rensburg)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:55:17 +0200
Subject: ADSL Connection Problem
Message-ID: <1231408517.6685.13.camel@XFX750>

Amit,

The first thing you should do is run ifconfig in terminal and see what
you get. It will tell you whether you have a connection and what you
interfaces are doing.


sudo pppoeconf is the command of a adsl connection which requires a user
name and password. When your adsl does not need that , it should connect
automatically.

You need to look at the \etc\network\interfaces file. You have to remove
any references to interfaces there for network manager to automatically
connect.

See my setup for the interfaces file up below:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

When you run pppoeconf, it will write the adsl connection and the
interface data into the interfaces file. Remove the 2 lines referring to
the interface and restart and you should be good to go.




From jonorland at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 10:08:20 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:08:20 +0100
Subject: Can't find package Ebox in my computer.
In-Reply-To: <200901080029.53609.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901071719.15136.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901071448j7006e692oec19cfcc69073ba4@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901080029.53609.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901080208s6b9b187dvedc4bc76c6fae4aa@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/8 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
>
>> eBox is a web application that means that you have to run on a web
>> server and access it with a web browser. Check that you have apache
>> running then write this url in your browsers address field
>> https://localhost/eBox You have a userguide here
>> http://ebox-platform.com/usersguide/en/html/ebox-userguide-book.html
>  Dear Jonas,
>
> I didn't know I had installed apache, however, I checked and it is installed
> on this computer.  I looked for it in Kmenu and couldn't find it.  I Alt+f2
> and got 'could not run specific command'.
>
> When I clicked on the link you provided 'https://localhost/ eBox, I got:
> The server certificate failed the authenticity test (localhost).  When I
> clicked on Details I got:  Certificate is self-signed and thus may not be
> trustworthy.  The Certificate has not been issued for this host.
>
> Under peer certificate:  It says Common name: eBox Server
> Under Issuer:  It says Common name: eBox Server
>
> Under IP address:  127.0.0.1
> URL:                      https://localhost:443
>
> I really don't understand what any of this means.
>
> Steven

It's a warning from your browser that the security certificate used on
this site is not valid and you should not trust it. You can download
it and "trust" it anyway, there should be a button or something you
can click on in that message/dialog.

As Sinclair sad, i don't think that installing eBox (Never used it
myself but it looks like webmin) is anything you need on a normal
workstation. The thinks you probably most need to configure is the
things you in have System Settings and for them you don't need eBox.

Installing services you don't need or know how to configure is also a
security risk so my suggestion is to uninstall eBox and apache as you
most likely don't need them.

/ Jonas



From jonorland at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 10:20:57 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:20:57 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901071503t596a5deamf32f593d7a3d3c93@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<880dece00901060251sc135973j5c32f115915839ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W13EB85066089FA1885F04ECDDE0@phx.gbl>
	<880dece00901061307r24c38ad4m66bece12325f0e7b@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W368322C9055AE5B596A0FACDDF0@phx.gbl>
	<880dece00901071503t596a5deamf32f593d7a3d3c93@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901080220p60eba6fbmf7aae1f23d3a466e@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/8 Dotan Cohen <dotancohen at gmail.com>:
> 2009/1/7 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>:
>> Dotan,
>>
>> OK wont do a re-install, will try and figure out to re-install the printer
>> drivers,
>> how do I do a copy of my complete system like in windows xp pro????????
>>
>> ray
>>
>
> I do not know about Windows XP, but you can copy your complete system
> with "sudo cp / place_to_copy".
>

Perhaps a better example than that because that will not copy much :-).

If i have a directory that i will copy/backup i would use the
"--archive" flag. And if you going to copy you whole system (root "/")
you need the "--one-file-system" flag so you don't copy /sys and
/proc. But as Dotan suggested tar is a much better tool for that.

/ Jonas



From d.mcglone at att.net  Thu Jan  8 11:30:00 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 06:30:00 -0500
Subject: How can I find if I have Read/Write permission in Wine-Windows
	Registry?
In-Reply-To: <200901080046.58800.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901080046.58800.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901080630.00404.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Thursday 08 January 2009 12:46:58 am Steven Vollom wrote:
> I enjoy a bible program called e-Sword.  I have been using it pretty much
> trouble free for quite some time.
>
> Each time I close the package though, it reopens in a random place.  I do
> not have the random choice selected, so it should not do that.
>
> I contacted e-Sword, and they said it should return to the place I left, if
> I have read/write permission in the registry.
>
> I use Wine to operate this Windows program.  Does anyone know how to check
> the registry to see if permissions are there for read/write?  If so, and
> they are not authorized, can you tell me how to create read/write
> permission?
>
> I looked through the registry for Wine and e-Sword, found them in two
> places, but under e-Sword there was no mention of read/write permissions.

Steven, have you looked into Bible Time for linux? I use it and it works 
great. That way you don't have to fool around with wine.

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From jonorland at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 11:33:36 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:33:36 +0100
Subject: K3b ripping problem
In-Reply-To: <200901042301.35263.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901042301.35263.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901080333j19984923yddbd37a211f4ad05@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/4 Georgi Kourtev <gkourtev at gmail.com>:
> I want to rip to MP3 certain audio CDs using K3b. While doing this (using
> the defaults MP3 lame options) I got an error executing it: Command failed:
> lame -h -tt <Name of collection> etc.....
>
> For other formats like .ogg it works fine. Any suggestions? Thanks.
>
> gk
>

Did some testing and had same errors like you but i found a solution.

The solution was to check "swap byte order" and "write wave header" in
the settings for Mp3 (lame)

1) Start k3b with an audio CD

2) Check CD from CDDB

3) Click "Start Ripping"

4) Select MP3 (Lame) as filetype

5) Click the settings button to the right

6) Select the Mp3 (Lame) and click edit

7) Check both "swap byte order" and "write wave header" then OK and OK

Optional) Change Lame command. I got:
lame -h --preset extreme --add-id3v2 --tt %t --ta %a --tl %m --ty %y
--tc %c --tn %n - %f

8) Save settings!!

9) Start ripping

Happy ripping!

/ Jonas



From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com  Thu Jan  8 12:18:24 2009
From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:18:24 +0000
Subject: wi-fi printer
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8998.1231402385.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.8998.1231402385.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <4965EF10.6060306@btinternet.com>

I have a HP Photosmart C7180 which has wi-fi, admittedly I originally 
set it up to talk to windows -
which was a right pain. But my Kubuntu/intrepid/cups found it straight 
away, so did Xsane and
also it used to fax OK. The only thing I found useful was to set the 
router up with a
static IP for the printer, because DHCP kept issuing a nonsense 
addresses which fouled up the
connectivity somewhat. In fact I've got all my home stuff on static 
addresses and ditched DCHP
altogether
brian



From dave at thefletchers.net  Thu Jan  8 12:38:14 2009
From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:38:14 +0000
Subject: wi-fi printer
In-Reply-To: <4965EF10.6060306@btinternet.com>
References: <mailman.8998.1231402385.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
	<4965EF10.6060306@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <200901081238.26272.dave@thefletchers.net>

On Thursday 08 January 2009 12:18:24 Brian Norman Wootton wrote:
> I have a HP Photosmart C7180 which has wi-fi, admittedly I originally
> set it up to talk to windows -
> which was a right pain. But my Kubuntu/intrepid/cups found it straight
> away, so did Xsane and
> also it used to fax OK. The only thing I found useful was to set the
> router up with a
> static IP for the printer, because DHCP kept issuing a nonsense
> addresses which fouled up the
> connectivity somewhat. In fact I've got all my home stuff on static
> addresses and ditched DCHP
> altogether
> brian

But how do you get into the machine to do the initial configuration? I mean, 
setting the WiFi network ID and password? I'm guessing that this has to be 
done before it can be used. You say that you originally used it with windows. 
What I am interested in knowing is "do we need a windoze machine to configure 
it?" or can we take one out of the box, fresh from the factory and set it up 
using just Kubuntu?

Dave
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From dotancohen at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 13:41:22 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:41:22 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
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2009/1/8 Jonas Norlander <jonorland at gmail.com>:
>> I do not know about Windows XP, but you can copy your complete system
>> with "sudo cp / place_to_copy".
>>
>
> Perhaps a better example than that because that will not copy much :-).
>

Naturally he shouldn't randomly run that command as provided, I wanted
to illustrate the scope of his question.

-- 
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From gloonie at earthlink.net  Thu Jan  8 13:46:50 2009
From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 08:46:50 -0500
Subject: exim paniclog
Message-ID: <200901080846.51073.gloonie@earthlink.net>

Hi All,

I haven't looked into it very deeply, but I periodically get the following 
message in my mail:

exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog on localhost.localdomain has non-zero 
size, mail system might be broken

I am on kubuntu, kde 4. When I look at the file, it shows:

-rw-r----- 1 Debian-exim adm 0 2009-01-08 07:35 /var/log/exim4/paniclog

And it does seem to be a zero size!

Does anyone have an idea about where I might begin to trace the problem?

TIA,

Glenn



From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com  Thu Jan  8 15:30:26 2009
From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham Todd)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:30:26 +0000
Subject: Can't Install Kubuntu 8.10 Properly - HELP!!
Message-ID: <20090108153026.484f4bda@graham-desktop>

I've been using the Kubuntu 3.x builds without any problem for years,
and tried the earliest versions of Kubuntu 4.0 without hitch, with my
i386 machine.

However, after getting an amd64 machine, I haven't been able to
download and burn an amd64 .iso file for CD or DVD that works.  I have
two disk drives, both LG in make, one a DVD-rom reader only, the other
a DVD reader/burner.

When I download a version of Kubuntu 8.10 and then burn it - either to
DVD or CD - it is read and brings up the familiar blue curly desktop
and appears in every way fine.  However, when I try to install it and
then reboot, it stops with a black screen with an oblong which can just
be defined in outline, but is coloured VERY dark grey - virtually
black.  The hard drive activity light goes out and even if I leave it
for a hour or more, nothing further happens.

Again, I'm aware that the speed of burning can have some effect on
disks, but I've burnt new copies at speeds from 4 to 16 with the same
result (getting quite a load of casters to give away next
Christmas!) :-)

The peculiar thing is that Ubuntu and a number of "based ons" work fine
when installing Gnome and Enlightenment (eg Ultimate Edition Linux, gOS
Linux, OpenGEU Linux), however I really want to get back to KDE.

Could anyone give me some pointers on how to stop this happening and/or
refer me to some HOWTOs?  I'd be really grateful to anyone who can help
me get rid of my frustration in getting so near yet so far...

Thanks in advance!

-- 
Graham Todd



From paul at lemmons.name  Thu Jan  8 17:11:37 2009
From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:11:37 -0700
Subject: Wireless printers
In-Reply-To: <200901072207.30602.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>	<a7f8874a0901062333wd45cab6u5b3c421306d9c6d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901072207.30602.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <496633C9.3000506@lemmons.name>

-------- Original Message  --------
Subject: Re:Wireless printers
From: Pastor JW <pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org>
To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Date: 01/07/2009 11:07 PM
> Thanks for the answers!  Sounds like HP at least has a bit of enlightenment!  
> What do you think of an OfficeJet J6480?  What info did you need to set your 
> printer up for Ethernet?  
I personally use the j6480 daily and it is a really nice printer. Print 
quality is good. Faxing is simple. Using it as a copier is a breeze. I 
have not had it jam yet. It works perfectly with my Linix laptop as well 
as my wife's XP laptop. I can print, scan and fax from linux. My only 
complaint is that it uses ink a little faster than I would like. It will 
take you about 5 minutes to set the printer up in Linux. It will take 
about 30 minutes to load the Windows driver. It is HUGE!

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From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Thu Jan  8 17:57:57 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:57:57 -0800
Subject: How can I find if I have Read/Write permission in Wine-Windows
	Registry?
In-Reply-To: <200901080046.58800.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901080046.58800.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901080957.57763.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Wednesday 07 January 2009 9:46:58 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> I enjoy a bible program called e-Sword.  I have been using it pretty much
> trouble free for quite some time.
>
> Each time I close the package though, it reopens in a random place.  I do
> not have the random choice selected, so it should not do that.
>
> I contacted e-Sword, and they said it should return to the place I left, if
> I have read/write permission in the registry.
>
> I use Wine to operate this Windows program.  Does anyone know how to check
> the registry to see if permissions are there for read/write?  If so, and
> they are not authorized, can you tell me how to create read/write
> permission?
>
> I looked through the registry for Wine and e-Sword, found them in two
> places, but under e-Sword there was no mention of read/write permissions.

Steven, no point in putting yourself through all that pain!  BibleTime is 
available in Ubuntu form!!  Check your Synaptic Package Manager!!  You may 
have to add the repository for the current updates however, it is: 

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/txwikinger/ubuntu hardy main

added to your "third-party software" and the maintainer is quite easy to talk 
to!  Fixed a minor bug for me in less than two hours!!  


-- 
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From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Thu Jan  8 19:43:49 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 06:43:49 +1100
Subject: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901080131j21298451s39ac842d36a43688@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU143-W294F171A3DEB1E97A7900CDDE0@phx.gbl>
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Bruce,
 
I dont understand?????
 
ray> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:31:27 +0200> From: dotancohen at gmail.com> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: Kubuntu re-install without loss of data> > 2009/1/8 Bruce Marshall <bmarsh at bmarsh.com>:> > I don't think this will do a very good job.... No recursing of directories> > and it will places all the files into one place_to_copy> >> > It was meant as a starting point, not as a solution. I don't even> expect the OP to do it via the CLI, but rather in Konqueror or some> other file manager.> > -- > Dotan Cohen> > http://what-is-what.com> http://gibberish.co.il> > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת> ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي> А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я> а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я> ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü> -- > kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
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From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com  Thu Jan  8 20:18:46 2009
From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:18:46 +0000
Subject: wi-fi printer
In-Reply-To: <mailman.10824.1231443863.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.10824.1231443863.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <49665FA6.6020404@btinternet.com>

But how do you get into the machine to do the initial configuration? I mean, 
setting the WiFi network ID and password? I'm guessing that this has to be 
done before it can be used. You say that you originally used it with windows. 
What I am interested in knowing is "do we need a windoze machine to configure 
it?" or can we take one out of the box, fresh from the factory and set it up 
using just Kubuntu?


You have to know your router's SSID(Network name) and the router's WEP key if running your
router in secure mode.
 After that you run the 'Wireless setup wizard' on the C7180(has its own screen and keyboard)
-just follow the destructions and you wind up with the printer connected to the router(shows
a little aerial icon on the printer, you can print off the complete network parameters before 
attempting to connect to it. 
  Then you go to your computer and go hplip>device manager>device>set up new device, select
Network/ethernet/wireless..... and I leave the rest the question/answers to you.
There's a whole seies of photosmart printers in this range with/without fax and various othet +/-
if you log onto the HP site, there is a questionaire which you can give answers to and it coughs
up with which printer it thinks is best to match your requirements.
hope this gives you the main idea of a 'how-to'
brian
 




From roberto03 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 21:35:00 2009
From: roberto03 at gmail.com (roberto)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 22:35:00 +0100
Subject: empty partition table when installing
Message-ID: <4bcde3e10901081335r5dd70a8el2977307191906c70@mail.gmail.com>

hello, i tried to install a live kubuntu 8.10 desktop i386 on a
pendrive following the steps in
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick

the live works fine but when i try to go to the installation via the
live on the pendrive the first three steps are ok but then, when i
have to choose the disk to use for the installation ... no disks are
displayed !
not my hard drive, not the pendrive, nothing

on the other hand i can access correctly to all my disks from dolphin

thank you very much in advance for any help
-- 
roberto
OS: GNU/Linux
       Debian
       Kubuntu, Edubuntu



From doc.evans at gmail.com  Thu Jan  8 21:43:28 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:43:28 -0700
Subject: Can't Install Kubuntu 8.10 Properly - HELP!!
In-Reply-To: <20090108153026.484f4bda@graham-desktop>
References: <20090108153026.484f4bda@graham-desktop>
Message-ID: <49667380.4060903@gmail.com>

Graham Todd said the following at 01/08/2009 08:30 AM :
> I've been using the Kubuntu 3.x builds without any problem for years,
> and tried the earliest versions of Kubuntu 4.0 without hitch, with my
> i386 machine.
> 
> However, after getting an amd64 machine, I haven't been able to
> download and burn an amd64 .iso file for CD or DVD that works.  I have
> two disk drives, both LG in make, one a DVD-rom reader only, the other
> a DVD reader/burner.
> 
> When I download a version of Kubuntu 8.10 and then burn it - either to
> DVD or CD - it is read and brings up the familiar blue curly desktop
> and appears in every way fine.  However, when I try to install it and
> then reboot, it stops with a black screen with an oblong which can just
> be defined in outline, but is coloured VERY dark grey - virtually
> black.  The hard drive activity light goes out and even if I leave it
> for a hour or more, nothing further happens.

So it sounds like what you are saying is that the install goes OK, but then
when you try to boot, you can't see anything.

What happens if you go to the console? Can you log in that way?

And if you can log in, then I suggest you try the following:

  1. go to ~/.kde/share/config
  2. in kwinrc, set Enabled=false in the [Compositing] section.
  3. Reboot

If you can't log in, what messages (if any) are on the console?

  Doc

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From Dexter.Filmore at gmx.de  Thu Jan  8 21:49:40 2009
From: Dexter.Filmore at gmx.de (Dexter Filmore)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 22:49:40 +0100
Subject: nvidia 179/180 on 8.04: kernel upgrades?
Message-ID: <200901082249.45176.Dexter.Filmore@gmx.de>

I installed nvidia-glx with envy-qt which only offers version 173. 
I'd like to upgrade to 179 or 180 for performance reasons.
So my only option here seems to use the nvidia installer. 
Question: will it survive a kernel upgrade like the one installed with envy 
does?

Dex

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From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Thu Jan  8 22:09:51 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:09:51 -0500
Subject: nvidia 179/180 on 8.04: kernel upgrades?
In-Reply-To: <200901082249.45176.Dexter.Filmore@gmx.de>
References: <200901082249.45176.Dexter.Filmore@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <200901081709.51774.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Thursday 08 January 2009, Dexter Filmore wrote:
> I installed nvidia-glx with envy-qt which only offers version 173.
> I'd like to upgrade to 179 or 180 for performance reasons.
> So my only option here seems to use the nvidia installer.
> Question: will it survive a kernel upgrade like the one installed with envy
> does?

More than likely.....    but each new kernel change will require you to run 
through the NV install again.  Usually a 2 minute process.



From mickrulist at voipfuture.com  Thu Jan  8 22:13:56 2009
From: mickrulist at voipfuture.com (Michael Krueger)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:13:56 +0100
Subject: Wireless printers
In-Reply-To: <4965226D.9060501@voipfuture.com>
References: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<4965226D.9060501@voipfuture.com>
Message-ID: <49667AA4.6040808@voipfuture.com>

Michael Krueger schrieb:
> Pastor JW schrieb:
>   
>> Can anyone recommend a good wireless all-in-one printer which will work with 
>> Kubuntu 8.04?  I need to replace an old Epson Parallel printer and thought a 
>> wireless would fit the bill nicely.  Problem is everyone tells me how easy 
>> the printer sets up in windoze and since I don't have windoze they quit 
>> talking.  I had the same problem with my palm LifeDrive.  It has never been 
>> updated via a "sync" type program as again no windoze but it connects to any 
>> wifi point and updates directly with no problem at all!   
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
> I started my journey to install the Canon PIXMAP MP620 wireless
> printer... you can follow the progress here:
> http://www.michael-krueger.org/
> I finish for today, but have the printer working using USB cable...
> tomorrow I hope to be able to use it wireless ;-)
>
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>
>   
I can report that I was successful in using the Canon PIXMA MP620 via
WLAN. For me that was well spent time, since the printer sell's for
about one third of the recommended HP printer, and even has single ink
cartridges which reduces the printing cost ...





From Dexter.Filmore at gmx.de  Thu Jan  8 22:34:51 2009
From: Dexter.Filmore at gmx.de (Dexter Filmore)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 23:34:51 +0100
Subject: nvidia 179/180 on 8.04: kernel upgrades?
In-Reply-To: <200901081709.51774.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <200901082249.45176.Dexter.Filmore@gmx.de>
	<200901081709.51774.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <200901082334.52165.Dexter.Filmore@gmx.de>

Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 23:09:51 schrieb Bruce Marshall:
> On Thursday 08 January 2009, Dexter Filmore wrote:
> > I installed nvidia-glx with envy-qt which only offers version 173.
> > I'd like to upgrade to 179 or 180 for performance reasons.
> > So my only option here seems to use the nvidia installer.
> > Question: will it survive a kernel upgrade like the one installed with
> > envy does?
>
> More than likely.....    but each new kernel change will require you to run
> through the NV install again.  Usually a 2 minute process.

Bloody hell. Isn't there a new envy with 179 or so?
Backport perhaps?
Experimental?


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From dave at thefletchers.net  Thu Jan  8 23:01:56 2009
From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 23:01:56 +0000
Subject: wi-fi printer
In-Reply-To: <49665FA6.6020404@btinternet.com>
References: <mailman.10824.1231443863.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
	<49665FA6.6020404@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <200901082302.09266.dave@thefletchers.net>

On Thursday 08 Jan 2009, Brian Norman Wootton wrote:
> 
> 
> You have to know your router's SSID(Network name) and the router's WEP key 
if running your
> router in secure mode.
>  After that you run the 'Wireless setup wizard' on the C7180(has its own 
screen and keyboard)
> -just follow the destructions and you wind up with the printer connected to 
the router(shows
> a little aerial icon on the printer, you can print off the complete network 
parameters before 
> attempting to connect to it. 

So it's independent of any operating systems you're running. That's very, very 
useful to know.

Thanks.

Dave
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From paul at lemmons.name  Thu Jan  8 23:41:48 2009
From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:41:48 -0700
Subject: wi-fi printer
In-Reply-To: <200901081238.26272.dave@thefletchers.net>
References: <mailman.8998.1231402385.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>	<4965EF10.6060306@btinternet.com>
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  9 01:30:17 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 20:30:17 -0500
Subject: Can't find package Ebox in my computer.
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901071448j7006e692oec19cfcc69073ba4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901071719.15136.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
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> http://ebox-platform.com/usersguide/en/html/ebox-userguide-book.html
There are too many things I don't understand to use the guide, but thanks.  I 
will have to work a little more first.
Steven



From timothyallen.albertson at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 06:16:29 2009
From: timothyallen.albertson at gmail.com (Timothy-Allen Albertson)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 00:16:29 -0600
Subject: How can I find if I have Read/Write permission in Wine-Windows
	Registry?
In-Reply-To: <200901080630.00404.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901080046.58800.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901080630.00404.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <d89226210901082216n28b83669s7f92f16711b8322e@mail.gmail.com>

does anybody know of any smilar for the Book of Mormon?

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:30 AM, David McGlone <d.mcglone at att.net> wrote:
> On Thursday 08 January 2009 12:46:58 am Steven Vollom wrote:
>> I enjoy a bible program called e-Sword.  I have been using it pretty much
>> trouble free for quite some time.
>>
>> Each time I close the package though, it reopens in a random place.  I do
>> not have the random choice selected, so it should not do that.
>>
>> I contacted e-Sword, and they said it should return to the place I left, if
>> I have read/write permission in the registry.
>>
>> I use Wine to operate this Windows program.  Does anyone know how to check
>> the registry to see if permissions are there for read/write?  If so, and
>> they are not authorized, can you tell me how to create read/write
>> permission?
>>
>> I looked through the registry for Wine and e-Sword, found them in two
>> places, but under e-Sword there was no mention of read/write permissions.
>
> Steven, have you looked into Bible Time for linux? I use it and it works
> great. That way you don't have to fool around with wine.
>
> --
> David M.
> http://www.dmcentral.net
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 12  ...In memory of our God, our religion, and freedom, and our
peace, our wives, and our children...  Book of Mormon--Alma 46:12



From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 06:53:24 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:53:24 +0200
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
Message-ID: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>

Maybe someone can assist on this. I have (and am still) searched the 
internet for information on how one can implement the windows concept of 
"offline folders" in a linux client environment.

Offline folders means that a folder (could be home, in Windows is My 
Documents) is stored on a server but a cached copy is kept on the 
client/workstation. The user works with the cache and sees no difference.
On login and logout any changes are synchronized with the serverbased 
folder. If you are offline (travelling or server down) you will see no 
difference except an error when you log on or off that synch could not 
be done.

The advantage is of course that users files can be centrally backed up 
and if a computer crashes or gets stolen you simply configure a new one, 
"resync" and the user is all set to go. In Windows domains it works with 
"roaming profiles" meaning that if you log on to another workstation you 
will have access to your files but not your own desktop or configs.

I am looking for a way to implement this concept (minus the roaming 
profile if that is not possible) in an environment where the servers are 
either Windows or Linux (Ebox) and the clients also mixed Windows and 
Linux (Kubuntu hopefully). The organisation are moving away from 
Windows, are not going Vista but staying with XP and for new computers 
going LInux. But the offline folders is a security aspect for them, 
securing that users files gets backed up "automagically".

Any pointers, help, someone did something like this, assistance of any 
kind most welcome.

Sinclair



From hvralpha at intekom.co.za  Fri Jan  9 08:31:58 2009
From: hvralpha at intekom.co.za (Hein van Rensburg)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:31:58 +0200
Subject: Booting Kubuntu 8.10 on New AMD systems
Message-ID: <1231489918.9080.29.camel@XFX750>


Graham,

>From your email it sounds like you might have 2 problems.
a) Graphics driver
b) Boot set up.

When you boot the CD and see the boot options, press F4 and chose safe
graphics. You will get an option when the system is installed to
download the drivers, but this should work and fix any short term
graphics problems.

To fix the boot problem you have to add the following command to the
booting line under F6 : pci=nomsi. You do this by pressing F6 and the
backspace and then add the line. I will also recommend that you remove
splash quiet command at the same time so that you can see where the
problem is when the system boots.

It is important to tell the list what you configuration is
( motherboard, graphics etc) so that we can help you better.







From jonorland at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 09:18:13 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:18:13 +0100
Subject: nvidia 179/180 on 8.04: kernel upgrades?
In-Reply-To: <200901082334.52165.Dexter.Filmore@gmx.de>
References: <200901082249.45176.Dexter.Filmore@gmx.de>
	<200901081709.51774.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
	<200901082334.52165.Dexter.Filmore@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901090118p2aa40dc1uabca23f0ca27d4b9@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/8 Dexter Filmore <Dexter.Filmore at gmx.de>:
> Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2009 23:09:51 schrieb Bruce Marshall:
>> On Thursday 08 January 2009, Dexter Filmore wrote:
>> > I installed nvidia-glx with envy-qt which only offers version 173.
>> > I'd like to upgrade to 179 or 180 for performance reasons.
>> > So my only option here seems to use the nvidia installer.
>> > Question: will it survive a kernel upgrade like the one installed with
>> > envy does?
>>
>> More than likely.....    but each new kernel change will require you to run
>> through the NV install again.  Usually a 2 minute process.
>
> Bloody hell. Isn't there a new envy with 179 or so?
> Backport perhaps?
> Experimental?
>

This morning when i logged in i saw that they got 180.11 for Intrepid.
It looks like most of the bitmap corruption is gone when opening
programs, switching pictures in Gwenview etc. but i can still see some
artifacts in the taskbar.
This is Intrepid so it want help you though.

/ Jonas



From jonorland at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 09:33:14 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:33:14 +0100
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901090133n3e1d7003h7dee568341500374@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/9 O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com>:
> Maybe someone can assist on this. I have (and am still) searched the
> internet for information on how one can implement the windows concept of
> "offline folders" in a linux client environment.
>
> Offline folders means that a folder (could be home, in Windows is My
> Documents) is stored on a server but a cached copy is kept on the
> client/workstation. The user works with the cache and sees no difference.
> On login and logout any changes are synchronized with the serverbased
> folder. If you are offline (travelling or server down) you will see no
> difference except an error when you log on or off that synch could not
> be done.
>
> The advantage is of course that users files can be centrally backed up
> and if a computer crashes or gets stolen you simply configure a new one,
> "resync" and the user is all set to go. In Windows domains it works with
> "roaming profiles" meaning that if you log on to another workstation you
> will have access to your files but not your own desktop or configs.
>
> I am looking for a way to implement this concept (minus the roaming
> profile if that is not possible) in an environment where the servers are
> either Windows or Linux (Ebox) and the clients also mixed Windows and
> Linux (Kubuntu hopefully). The organisation are moving away from
> Windows, are not going Vista but staying with XP and for new computers
> going LInux. But the offline folders is a security aspect for them,
> securing that users files gets backed up "automagically".
>
> Any pointers, help, someone did something like this, assistance of any
> kind most welcome.
>
> Sinclair
>

Hi!

I'm using unison to sync my files between 3 computers and it has
worked fine for my needs. It don't have the automagical you want, it's
just a secure (SSH) plain and simple synchronization but perhaps it
can be configured to your needs.

Snip from http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
Unison is a file-synchronization tool for Unix and Windows. It allows
two replicas of a collection of files and directories to be stored on
different hosts (or different disks on the same host), modified
separately, and then brought up to date by propagating the changes in
each replica to the other.

/ Jonas



From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com  Fri Jan  9 10:30:18 2009
From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:30:18 +0000
Subject: wi-fi printers
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11511.1231458112.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.11511.1231458112.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <4967273A.4070208@btinternet.com>

So it's independent of any operating systems you're running. That's very, very 
useful to know.

Yes, providing the printer software installation on whatever operating system you've
got knows about the printer you've got, which is by no means a given.
brian 




From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 12:09:26 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:09:26 +0200
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901090133n3e1d7003h7dee568341500374@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901090133n3e1d7003h7dee568341500374@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49673E76.9010100@gmail.com>

Jonas Norlander wrote:
> 2009/1/9 O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com>:
>> Maybe someone can assist on this. I have (and am still) searched the
>> internet for information on how one can implement the windows concept of
>> "offline folders" in a linux client environment.
>>
>> Offline folders means that a folder (could be home, in Windows is My
>> Documents) is stored on a server but a cached copy is kept on the
>> client/workstation. The user works with the cache and sees no difference.
>> On login and logout any changes are synchronized with the serverbased
>> folder. If you are offline (travelling or server down) you will see no
>> difference except an error when you log on or off that synch could not
>> be done.
>>
>> The advantage is of course that users files can be centrally backed up
>> and if a computer crashes or gets stolen you simply configure a new one,
>> "resync" and the user is all set to go. In Windows domains it works with
>> "roaming profiles" meaning that if you log on to another workstation you
>> will have access to your files but not your own desktop or configs.
>>
>> I am looking for a way to implement this concept (minus the roaming
>> profile if that is not possible) in an environment where the servers are
>> either Windows or Linux (Ebox) and the clients also mixed Windows and
>> Linux (Kubuntu hopefully). The organisation are moving away from
>> Windows, are not going Vista but staying with XP and for new computers
>> going LInux. But the offline folders is a security aspect for them,
>> securing that users files gets backed up "automagically".
>>
>> Any pointers, help, someone did something like this, assistance of any
>> kind most welcome.
>>
>> Sinclair
>>
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I'm using unison to sync my files between 3 computers and it has
> worked fine for my needs. It don't have the automagical you want, it's
> just a secure (SSH) plain and simple synchronization but perhaps it
> can be configured to your needs.

I know about unison, have also had a look at "luckybackup" and various 
rsync facilities. Eg Smb4K has an excellent syncing facility as has 
Krusader. Problem is they all require "user intervention" and I would 
like this to be transparent. To me this is almost "last piece of the 
puzzle" to get a linux-client to replace Windows w/o users or management 
being able to say "and what about this facility/software" etc.

At the moment I am looking at csync, it seems very promising:
http://www.csync.org/

Sinclair



From gkourtev at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 13:52:26 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:52:26 +0200
Subject: Mic issues with DELL inspiron 1525
Message-ID: <200901091552.26519.gkourtev@gmail.com>

My mics (both built-in and external) does not work. I have tried in the past 
months different 'solutions' unsuccessfully. Any idea how to make it happened? 
My guess is that somehow the mic is on mute but I cannot control this with 
kmix nor else. When I rightclick on the sound control at the right bottom of 
the screen, I have a checked box 'mute' that I cannot uncheck. I run Kubunti 
8.10 KDE 4.1.2

Any ideas? Thanks.
gk

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From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan  9 14:28:53 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:28:53 -0400
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>
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O. Sinclair wrote:

> Jonas Norlander wrote:
>> 2009/1/9 O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com>:
>>> Maybe someone can assist on this. I have (and am still) searched the
>>> internet for information on how one can implement the windows concept of
>>> "offline folders" in a linux client environment.

Actually, I'd never even come across the idea in Windows, but I'm thinking I 
have a few situations where I'd love to use this.

>>> I am looking for a way to implement this concept (minus the roaming
>>> profile if that is not possible) in an environment where the servers are
>>> either Windows or Linux (Ebox) and the clients also mixed Windows and
>>> Linux (Kubuntu hopefully). The organisation are moving away from
>>> Windows, are not going Vista but staying with XP and for new computers
>>> going LInux. But the offline folders is a security aspect for them,
>>> securing that users files gets backed up "automagically".
>>>
>>> Any pointers, help, someone did something like this, assistance of any
>>> kind most welcome.
>> 
>> I'm using unison to sync my files between 3 computers and it has
>> worked fine for my needs. It don't have the automagical you want, it's
>> just a secure (SSH) plain and simple synchronization but perhaps it
>> can be configured to your needs.
> 
> I know about unison, have also had a look at "luckybackup" and various
> rsync facilities. Eg Smb4K has an excellent syncing facility as has
> Krusader. Problem is they all require "user intervention" and I would
> like this to be transparent. To me this is almost "last piece of the
> puzzle" to get a linux-client to replace Windows w/o users or management
> being able to say "and what about this facility/software" etc.
> 
> At the moment I am looking at csync, it seems very promising:
> http://www.csync.org/

Unison certainly seems like a starting point.  To do this right, I think you 
really need to define a new "filesystem", say "offlefs", which would be backed 
by any other kind of filesystem - obviously particularly useful for things 
like Samba/cifs or NFS.  I'm not at all sure how much would be involved in 
that.
-- 
derek




From keithdewitt at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 14:50:56 2009
From: keithdewitt at gmail.com (keith dewitt)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 08:50:56 -0600
Subject: Install / Boot issues
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901070507o7a89bd36qf9b0ee94cc97a64e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e87f86070901062010t4ea01ab1mb69346c0b444f9b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901070507o7a89bd36qf9b0ee94cc97a64e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e87f86070901090650l9e49a97n40754eb0aaf816b@mail.gmail.com>

>
> Have you tried to start in recovery mode?

Yes. No luck, but I may not be seeing  something I need to know there,

>You can also try to remove
> the quit and splash options from the kernel row in the Grub boot menu.

Removed. But the splash screens would still come up. Maybe I did
something wrong, but I removed those two words from the end of the
line and checked on another reboot and they were not there. But I am
getting past the splash screens now, just getting the blank screen
directly after. And it stops.

> Both suggestions will give you more output when trying to debug the
> cause. Also look at the log files in /var/log for clues.

I looked at this site and few others to explain to my "how to view
/var/log files":
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-log-files-location-and-how-do-i-view-logs-files/
When I got to ?command lines? that had "#" to type commands, said it
was an invalid command. What I'm thinking is these files are only
viewable once everything is loaded and you can use a ?shell?

I think I'm getting more lost. But I'm trying still. My big
motivation, I plan to upgrade to a 64 bit system and would like to
move over to Linux as my OS.

Thanks for your help,
Keith

Couldn't figure this out.
>
> / Jonas
>
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From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Fri Jan  9 15:12:35 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:12:35 -0600
Subject: Mic issues with DELL inspiron 1525
In-Reply-To: <200901091552.26519.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901091552.26519.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49676963.2020102@swbell.net>

Georgi Kourtev wrote:
>
> My mics (both built-in and external) does not work. I have tried in 
> the past months different 'solutions' unsuccessfully. Any idea how to 
> make it happened? My guess is that somehow the mic is on mute but I 
> cannot control this with kmix nor else. When I rightclick on the sound 
> control at the right bottom of the screen, I have a checked box 'mute' 
> that I cannot uncheck. I run Kubunti 8.10 KDE 4.1.2
>
> Any ideas? Thanks.
>
> gk
>
Just a thought, but do you have alsa mixer and alsa mixer gui installed?

I've never had much luck fiddling with kmix.

-- 
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.




From ender8282 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  9 15:16:14 2009
From: ender8282 at yahoo.com (John Hubbard)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:16:14 -0700
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <49673E76.9010100@gmail.com>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>	<b8d784880901090133n3e1d7003h7dee568341500374@mail.gmail.com>
	<49673E76.9010100@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49676A3E.90502@yahoo.com>

O. Sinclair wrote:
> Jonas Norlander wrote:
>   
>> 2009/1/9 O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com>:
>>     
>>> Maybe someone can assist on this. I have (and am still) searched the
>>> internet for information on how one can implement the windows concept of
>>> "offline folders" in a linux client environment.
>>>
>>> Offline folders means that a folder (could be home, in Windows is My
>>> Documents) is stored on a server but a cached copy is kept on the
>>> client/workstation. The user works with the cache and sees no difference.
>>> On login and logout any changes are synchronized with the serverbased
>>> folder. If you are offline (travelling or server down) you will see no
>>> difference except an error when you log on or off that synch could not
>>> be done.
>>>
>>> The advantage is of course that users files can be centrally backed up
>>> and if a computer crashes or gets stolen you simply configure a new one,
>>> "resync" and the user is all set to go. In Windows domains it works with
>>> "roaming profiles" meaning that if you log on to another workstation you
>>> will have access to your files but not your own desktop or configs.
>>>
>>> I am looking for a way to implement this concept (minus the roaming
>>> profile if that is not possible) in an environment where the servers are
>>> either Windows or Linux (Ebox) and the clients also mixed Windows and
>>> Linux (Kubuntu hopefully). The organisation are moving away from
>>> Windows, are not going Vista but staying with XP and for new computers
>>> going LInux. But the offline folders is a security aspect for them,
>>> securing that users files gets backed up "automagically".
>>>
>>> Any pointers, help, someone did something like this, assistance of any
>>> kind most welcome.
>>>
>>> Sinclair
>>>
>>>       
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'm using unison to sync my files between 3 computers and it has
>> worked fine for my needs. It don't have the automagical you want, it's
>> just a secure (SSH) plain and simple synchronization but perhaps it
>> can be configured to your needs.
>>     
>
> I know about unison, have also had a look at "luckybackup" and various 
> rsync facilities. Eg Smb4K has an excellent syncing facility as has 
> Krusader. Problem is they all require "user intervention" and I would 
> like this to be transparent. To me this is almost "last piece of the 
> puzzle" to get a linux-client to replace Windows w/o users or management 
> being able to say "and what about this facility/software" etc.
>
> At the moment I am looking at csync, it seems very promising:
> http://www.csync.org/
>
> Sinclair
>
>   
I am not sure where to put it but if you have found a command line sync 
tool then you should be able to set us a script do the update at both 
login and logout. I know that kde will run anything in ~/.kde/Autostart 
every time the user logs in. I am not sure about logout but I bet that 
there is some similar mechanism.

Not really the solution that you were looking for but you might checkout 
autofs. It uses nfs to mount a shared folder as needed. At work I share 
my home folder across a few machines. (It makes passwordless ssh 
connections a breeze to set up.)

-- 
-john

To be or not to be, that is the question
                2b || !2b
(0b10)*(0b1100010) || !(0b10)*(0b1100010)
        0b11000100 || !0b11000100
        0b11000100 || 0b00111011
               0b11111111
        255, that is the answer.





From mdshaw89 at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 17:02:58 2009
From: mdshaw89 at gmail.com (Mike Shaw)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:02:58 -0500
Subject: wi-fi printer
In-Reply-To: <49665FA6.6020404@btinternet.com>
References: <mailman.10824.1231443863.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
	<49665FA6.6020404@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <d11e8140901090902q397446f6n932187684fd47f02@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Brian Norman Wootton
<Brian.Meg at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> But how do you get into the machine to do the initial configuration? I mean,
> setting the WiFi network ID and password? I'm guessing that this has to be
> done before it can be used. You say that you originally used it with windows.
> What I am interested in knowing is "do we need a windoze machine to configure
> it?" or can we take one out of the box, fresh from the factory and set it up
> using just Kubuntu?
>
>
> You have to know your router's SSID(Network name) and the router's WEP key if running your
> router in secure mode.
>  After that you run the 'Wireless setup wizard' on the C7180(has its own screen and keyboard)
> -just follow the destructions and you wind up with the printer connected to the router(shows
> a little aerial icon on the printer, you can print off the complete network parameters before
> attempting to connect to it.
>  Then you go to your computer and go hplip>device manager>device>set up new device, select
> Network/ethernet/wireless..... and I leave the rest the question/answers to you.
> There's a whole seies of photosmart printers in this range with/without fax and various othet +/-
> if you log onto the HP site, there is a questionaire which you can give answers to and it coughs
> up with which printer it thinks is best to match your requirements.
> hope this gives you the main idea of a 'how-to'
> brian
>

I have an "HP Photosmart C4380 All-in-One Printer" which has a
wireless G interface besides USB.  And the HPLIP software cannot
perform the initial configuration for wireless.  SO UNLESS YOU HAVE A
WINDOZE BOX YOU CANNOT SETUP THIS PRINTER FOR WIRELESS!  Luckily I was
able to setup a laptop on a spare harddrive with Windows XP and
perform the configuration but if I did not have that I would have been
out of luck.  You may be able to do it with a Mac, but you can not
definitely set this thing up for wireless printing via Linux.

The funny thing is that the HPLIP software seems like it can do
EVERYTHING else that the Windoze version can BUT the wireless setup!

l8r,

Mike
--
Ed: This is worse than when he was just stupid! - from "Sitting Ducks"



From nigel at prayingforisrael.net  Fri Jan  9 18:50:03 2009
From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:50:03 +0200
Subject: Mic issues with DELL inspiron 1525
In-Reply-To: <200901091552.26519.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901091552.26519.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49679C5B.5090204@prayingforisrael.net>

Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> My mics (both built-in and external) does not work. I have tried in the past 
> months different 'solutions' unsuccessfully. Any idea how to make it happened? 
> My guess is that somehow the mic is on mute but I cannot control this with 
> kmix nor else. When I rightclick on the sound control at the right bottom of 
> the screen, I have a checked box 'mute' that I cannot uncheck. I run Kubunti 
> 8.10 KDE 4.1.2
> 
> Any ideas? Thanks.
> gk
> 
> 
> 

Try the following (taken from the Dell Linux mailing list):

Just to assist anyone using Kubuntu I finally managed to get the mic
working in Kubuntu, KDE that is, 8.04 version.

Here is how:
1. in KMix choose tab Switches
2. in field "Digital Input Source" choose "Digital Mic 1" for built-in mic
3. in field "input source" set "Mic" (I set in all 3 fields)

If you use the front input mic jack then:
2. in field "Digital Input Source" choose "Analogue Inputs"
3. in field "input source" set "Front Mic" (I set in all 3 fields)

under tab "input" you might have to play around with "volumes" for the
sources

Good luck,
Sinclair

Blessings,

Nigel



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Fri Jan  9 19:15:48 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:15:48 -0600
Subject: wi-fi printer
In-Reply-To: <d11e8140901090902q397446f6n932187684fd47f02@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.10824.1231443863.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>	<49665FA6.6020404@btinternet.com>
	<d11e8140901090902q397446f6n932187684fd47f02@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4967A264.9020305@swbell.net>

Mike Shaw wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Brian Norman Wootton
> <Brian.Meg at btinternet.com> wrote:
>   
>> But how do you get into the machine to do the initial configuration? I mean,
>> setting the WiFi network ID and password? I'm guessing that this has to be
>> done before it can be used. You say that you originally used it with windows.
>> What I am interested in knowing is "do we need a windoze machine to configure
>> it?" or can we take one out of the box, fresh from the factory and set it up
>> using just Kubuntu?
>>
>>
>> You have to know your router's SSID(Network name) and the router's WEP key if running your
>> router in secure mode.
>>  After that you run the 'Wireless setup wizard' on the C7180(has its own screen and keyboard)
>> -just follow the destructions and you wind up with the printer connected to the router(shows
>> a little aerial icon on the printer, you can print off the complete network parameters before
>> attempting to connect to it.
>>  Then you go to your computer and go hplip>device manager>device>set up new device, select
>> Network/ethernet/wireless..... and I leave the rest the question/answers to you.
>> There's a whole seies of photosmart printers in this range with/without fax and various othet +/-
>> if you log onto the HP site, there is a questionaire which you can give answers to and it coughs
>> up with which printer it thinks is best to match your requirements.
>> hope this gives you the main idea of a 'how-to'
>> brian
>>
>>     
>
> I have an "HP Photosmart C4380 All-in-One Printer" which has a
> wireless G interface besides USB.  And the HPLIP software cannot
> perform the initial configuration for wireless.  SO UNLESS YOU HAVE A
> WINDOZE BOX YOU CANNOT SETUP THIS PRINTER FOR WIRELESS!  Luckily I was
> able to setup a laptop on a spare harddrive with Windows XP and
> perform the configuration but if I did not have that I would have been
> out of luck.  You may be able to do it with a Mac, but you can not
> definitely set this thing up for wireless printing via Linux.
>
> The funny thing is that the HPLIP software seems like it can do
> EVERYTHING else that the Windoze version can BUT the wireless setup!
>
> l8r,
>
> Mike
> --
> Ed: This is worse than when he was just stupid! - from "Sitting Ducks"
>
>   
We have an HP 6380 wired [ cat 5 ] network all in one [ print, scan, 
copy, fax ] printer. It sets up on the network using the screen/menu 
system within the printer itself. The system its connected to is through 
a switch and there are three routers. We can print to it from laptops 
through the wireless routers without difficulty. To set it up on Kubunti 
too less time than on Windows. I simply used the Cups interface. It 
found the printer, set it up on my computers and printed the test page 
within about three minutes. [ took me longer to find the address for the 
Cups interface than to actually set it up  *<]:oD  ]

-- 
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.




From gkourtev at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 19:34:20 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:34:20 +0200
Subject: Mic issues with DELL inspiron 1525
In-Reply-To: <49676963.2020102@swbell.net>
References: <200901091552.26519.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<49676963.2020102@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <200901092134.20904.gkourtev@gmail.com>

Yes, but still is off. 
gk

On Friday 09 January 2009 17:12:35 Billie Walsh wrote:
> Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> > My mics (both built-in and external) does not work. I have tried in
> > the past months different 'solutions' unsuccessfully. Any idea how to
> > make it happened? My guess is that somehow the mic is on mute but I
> > cannot control this with kmix nor else. When I rightclick on the sound
> > control at the right bottom of the screen, I have a checked box 'mute'
> > that I cannot uncheck. I run Kubunti 8.10 KDE 4.1.2
> >
> > Any ideas? Thanks.
> >
> > gk
>
> Just a thought, but do you have alsa mixer and alsa mixer gui installed?
>
> I've never had much luck fiddling with kmix.
>
> --
> Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.


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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  9 19:59:29 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:59:29 -0500
Subject: Can't find package Ebox in my computer.  **Resolved**
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901080208s6b9b187dvedc4bc76c6fae4aa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901071719.15136.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901080029.53609.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901080208s6b9b187dvedc4bc76c6fae4aa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901091459.29639.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Installing services you don't need or know how to configure is also a
> security risk so my suggestion is to uninstall eBox and apache as you
> most likely don't need them.
Installing this was a recommendation from the list.  I will remove it.  
Thanks.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  9 20:00:53 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:00:53 -0500
Subject: Can't find package Ebox in my computer.
In-Reply-To: <4965A014.7040908@gmail.com>
References: <200901071719.15136.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4965A014.7040908@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901091500.54121.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

Thanks Sinclair.  This installation was a recommendation from the list.  I 
think they misunderstood my need.  You are the second to suggest removal.  I 
am going to remove it.  Thanks.

Steven
> I can think of no benefits running this system on a "normal" user GUI
> system.



From mdhirsch at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 20:11:10 2009
From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 13:11:10 -0700
Subject: Audio with Kopete?
In-Reply-To: <646a014e0901020919v537ff68ja9226a565f640324@mail.gmail.com>
References: <646a014e0901020919v537ff68ja9226a565f640324@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0901091211v56773346mc6af65666e18720f@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Geoffrey Bays <charioteer7 at gmail.com> wrote:
> K-Users:
>
> I got a new webcam, a Logitech Communicate MP, and it works great
> out-of-the-box with Kubuntu Hardy.
> I have figured out how to get the video feed from this to work in
> Kopete. (wish it worked in Pidgin.)
>
> But I have no clue how to get the audio from the webcam microphone
> working in Kopete, if this is even possible.
> The Yahoo Messenger client on Windows will do audio just fine. The
> Kopete help files are no help at all.
>
> Any thoughts? Has anyone gotten webcam audio through Kopete? Or do I
> have to do a simultaneous voip call with ekiga or skype?

You probably have two audio devices, now.  Your old on and the one in
the webcam.  You'll need to configure kopete to use the new one.  One
possibility is to configure KDE, or some lower level part of the
system, to use the new one.  Maybe you can open kmixer and choose the
audio device.  I don't recall how kopete deals with it.

Michael



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  9 20:27:59 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:27:59 -0500
Subject: How can I find if I have Read/Write permission in Wine-Windows
	Registry?
In-Reply-To: <200901080630.00404.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901080046.58800.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901080630.00404.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <200901091527.59856.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Steven, have you looked into Bible Time for linux? I use it and it works
> great. That way you don't have to fool around with wine.
I have, David, and I really prefer e-Sword.  I will even accept this problem, 
if I have to.  It would just be nice to return to the proper page.  I have 
memory problems in my old age, and I sometimes have difficulty remembering  
where I left off.  Thanks.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan  9 20:31:56 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:31:56 -0500
Subject: How can I find if I have Read/Write permission in Wine-Windows
	Registry?
In-Reply-To: <200901080957.57763.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901080046.58800.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901080957.57763.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <200901091531.56475.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Steven, no point in putting yourself through all that pain!  

I tried BibleTime a while back.  My favorite Bible version at this time in my 
walk is the Good News Bible.  I really want to use that version right now.  
As I recall, it is not available in BibleTimes.  Thanks.

Steven



From pewtas at gmail.com  Fri Jan  9 21:00:27 2009
From: pewtas at gmail.com (Peter Williams)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:00:27 +1100
Subject: [Lazarus] My ADVICE!!!: Are you having problems installing
	Qdebian(Linux) packages.
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20090109081546.00a9d570@pop3.unsw.edu.au>
References: <3.0.6.32.20090109081546.00a9d570@pop3.unsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <bb1c4c350901091300r78a18b7bg2fc067506c17ddaa@mail.gmail.com>

To Alex and all the ppl who use Lazarus Language,

Hi Alex and All,

Thanks for your reply. I think I'll stick with Mint Linux Gnome for a bit
longer. I think the main problem I'm having is that although it work fine
after I've  booted-up with the Gnome FailSafe Mode, when my computer does a
Hibernate or Suspend... then it gets problems. ;-(

I still regard myself as only a Linux newbie beginner ;-)))

I believe you when you tell me that Xubuntu is a good OS. *SMILE* It's just
than I get tired when ppl advice me to install ANOTHER Linux Operating
System. I already have different versions of Kubuntu installed!!!! But I
don't use then.

I think I'll need to use the Synaptic Package Manager to somehow re-install
my Mint Linux ver 5.1 (?) Gnome OS... I think the problem is the I have too
many KDE programs install and that's upsetting my poor Gnome Operating
System -- which I reallly really like, even tho' I've only been using my
Mint Linux Gnome OS for about one week or so.

Can some kind person please help me to re-install my Mint Linux Gnome OS???
I think that I *SHOULD* bootup the Linux command line system... but to be
honest -- the Linux Command Line system (? if that's the correct name for
it) -- well sometimes it scares the bejesuses out of me!!! (SMILE) I'm an
old Micro$oft Windowz user from many years ago.. & while I did use Windowz
(many many different versions) and other OSes... I still have trouble
remembering Linux commands!!!

I figure that I should be using the Synaptic Package Manager or the Mint
Installer -- correct?!?! But I've forgotten how to use them (since I was
away on XMAS Holidays for about a fortnight!). Please don't laugh at me!!!
:-)

I'd really appreciate some help fixing my broken Mint Linux Gnome OS. It's
not happy with some of the KDE programs...

Yours Sincerely and With Much Love,
{ happily using Mint Linux Gnome OS }

PEW   ### GRIN and SMILE ###
-

Fond Regards,
Peter Eric (aka 'pew') WILLIAMS
from Hobart, Tasmania, Australia -- phone (03) 6236-9675

My free website is: http://pewtas.googlepages.com  (or)
http://tinyurl.com/yuyejs

(please visit my free website and let me know what you think about it.)
Joan Crawford  - "I, Joan Crawford, I believe in the dollar. Everything I
earn, I spend."

2009/1/9 Alex Kovacic <A.Kovacic at unsw.edu.au>

> -
>
>
> BEING AN OZZIE
>
> YOU SHOULD TRY OZOS.
> http://cafelinux.org/OzOs/
> (DEBIAN-Xubuntu <http://cafelinux.org/OzOs/%28DEBIAN-Xubuntu>)
>
> At 10:06 PM 8/01/2009 +1100, you wrote:
> >
> >To ppl who use Linux and are having problems installing Qdebian (Linux)
> >packages.
> >
> >HI There *SMILE*
> >
> >I am extremely happy because my desktop pc (which is very faster!!) is now
> >working extremely well !!! I&#39;m still learning how to use it. ## GREAT
> >BIG HAPPY GRIN ##
> >
> >Also, I still only rate myself as a Linux Newbie (beginner!)
> >
> >I use Mint Linux Ubuntu version 5& a Gnome Desktop.
> >
> >As I said... It&#39;s FANTASTIC to use and extremely powerful.
> >
> >&& 7!! Enterprise edition. I have been developing software since I was a
> >young boy and a teenager!!! I&#39;m now 47 years old. I have used many
> >types of computer systems and I think that&#39;s where I have benefited in
> >so good (proficient) at what I do.
> >
> >Although, lots of things about the internet and www and document formats
> >etc etc confuse me.
> >
> >My experience has taught me that there key to learning to use computers...
> >it to do everything possible to help learn it. Book, Magazines, dvds, cds,
> >video files, friends, enemies (SMILE) and prehaps the MOST IMPORTANT thing
> >is to keep a sence of Humour and collect Jokes cartoons and artworks by
> >lots of ppl. Collect powerpoint (or impress) slide-shows etc. Experience,
> >test, guess and most importantly, I collect freeware and shareware source
> >code... and studied it to see how it worked or didn&#39;t.
> >
> >When I used my Delphi (and later, Lazarus) RAD compilers... I was very
> >careful to try to get hide of (or try to) ride my software projects of
> >compiler Errors, Warnings, Hints etc (I&#39;m forgeting one of them -- it
> 4
> >different things). Also, I have joined Delphi newsgroups, email list,
> >discussion groups etc etc. Make friends with a programmer... and listen to
> >his advice (one of my good friends is a Professional programmer who has
> >also been doing it for all his life!!!!)
> >
> >Also, try to enjoy non-computing things. I love to write and self-publish
> >my Poetry and Games I&#39;ve programmed. They&#39;re only fairly simple!
> >Okay... some are quite complicated... BUT on my Delphi Programming Souce
> >Code Page, you can download either the source code (in Delphi) or the
> >Windows executable, or both!!!
> >
> >my totally free website is here: http://pewtas.googlepages.com/home --
> >It&#39;s a GooglePages free website with a TON of storage space (well,
> >metaphorically!) *GRIN*
> >
> >To install a Linux Debian file, use GDebi Package Manager application
> >(it&#39;s a graphical app e.g. it has a GUI instead of not.).
> >
> >A very good friend and fellow Linux Ubuntu Mint user told me about it.
> >Actually, he is to thank for teaching me more about Linux. His name is
> >Terry Martin and he lives in the Tasmanian Country (I get confused about
> >exactly where)... He is a very kind person and is teaching me more about
> >Linux Ubuntu Mint and Linux commands (which I still have problems with). I
> >guess that&#39;s about what having a true friend is all about.
> >
> >------------
> >
> >Application name:
> >
> >GDebi Package Manager
> >
> >gdebi-gtk 0.3.8
> >Install and view software packages
> >(c) 2005-2006 Canonical
> >www.ubuntu.com
> >
> > Written by
> >Michael Vogt and Sebastian Heinlein
> >
> >Translated by
> >Launchpad Contributions:
> >  Chris Goerner https://launchpad.net/~cgoerner<https://launchpad.net/%7Ecgoerner>
> >  ZhongHan Cai https://launchpad.net/~caizhonghan<https://launchpad.net/%7Ecaizhonghan>
> >
> >License:
> >GPL, see /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL
> >
> >-----------------------
> >Fond Regards,
> >Peter Eric (aka &#39;pew&#39;) WILLIAMS
> >from Hobart, Tasmania, Australia -- phone (03) 6236-9675
> >
> >My free website is: http://pewtas.googlepages.com (or)
> >http://tinyurl.com/yuyejs
> >
> >(please visit my free website and let me know what you think about it.)
> >  _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list
> >Lazarus at lazarus.freepascal.org
> >http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
>
> _______________________________________________
> Lazarus mailing list
> Lazarus at lazarus.freepascal.org
> http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
>
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From paul at lemmons.name  Fri Jan  9 21:18:59 2009
From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:18:59 -0700
Subject: wi-fi printer
In-Reply-To: <d11e8140901090902q397446f6n932187684fd47f02@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.10824.1231443863.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>	<49665FA6.6020404@btinternet.com>
	<d11e8140901090902q397446f6n932187684fd47f02@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4967BF43.3010403@lemmons.name>

-------- Original Message  --------
Subject: Re:wi-fi printer
From: "Mike Shaw" <mdshaw89 at gmail.com>
To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Date: 01/09/2009 10:02 AM
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Brian Norman Wootton
> <Brian.Meg at btinternet.com> wrote:
>   
>> But how do you get into the machine to do the initial configuration? I mean,
>> setting the WiFi network ID and password? 
>>     
>
> I have an "HP Photosmart C4380 All-in-One Printer" which has a
> wireless G interface besides USB.  And the HPLIP software cannot
> perform the initial configuration for wireless.  SO UNLESS YOU HAVE A
> WINDOZE BOX YOU CANNOT SETUP THIS PRINTER FOR WIRELESS!  
>
>   
Simply not true.

The entire networking setup, including wireless can be setup on the 
setup menu on the printer itself. This has been true on every one of the 
printers I have setup. I always setup my Linux connectivity first to 
test the printer because it is so much easier than the Windows setup. 
Once I have it working with Linux I setup any Windows machines that need 
access.

-- 
Sometimes I wonder.  Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it.

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From paul at lemmons.name  Fri Jan  9 21:23:32 2009
From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:23:32 -0700
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4967C054.7070606@lemmons.name>

-------- Original Message  --------
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
From: "O. Sinclair" <o.sinclair at gmail.com>
To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Date: 01/08/2009 11:53 PM
> Maybe someone can assist on this. I have (and am still) searched the 
> internet for information on how one can implement the windows concept of 
> "offline folders" in a linux client environment.
>
> Offline folders means that a folder (could be home, in Windows is My 
> Documents) is stored on a server but a cached copy is kept on the 
> client/workstation. The user works with the cache and sees no difference.
> On login and logout any changes are synchronized with the serverbased 
> folder. If you are offline (travelling or server down) you will see no 
> difference except an error when you log on or off that synch could not 
> be done.
>
> The advantage is of course that users files can be centrally backed up 
> and if a computer crashes or gets stolen you simply configure a new one, 
> "resync" and the user is all set to go. In Windows domains it works with 
> "roaming profiles" meaning that if you log on to another workstation you 
> will have access to your files but not your own desktop or configs.
>
> I am looking for a way to implement this concept (minus the roaming 
> profile if that is not possible) in an environment where the servers are 
> either Windows or Linux (Ebox) and the clients also mixed Windows and 
> Linux (Kubuntu hopefully). The organisation are moving away from 
> Windows, are not going Vista but staying with XP and for new computers 
> going LInux. But the offline folders is a security aspect for them, 
> securing that users files gets backed up "automagically".
>
> Any pointers, help, someone did something like this, assistance of any 
> kind most welcome.
>
> Sinclair
>
>   
Sounds like you are describing DropBox.

https://www.getdropbox.com/

Totally transparent synchronization between multiple machines running 
diverse operating systems. Files are also cached online so that you have 
access even on machines that are not being synchronized.

-- 
Sometimes I wonder.  Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it.

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From devooght at comcast.net  Fri Jan  9 22:10:13 2009
From: devooght at comcast.net (Lance DeVooght)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:10:13 -0500
Subject: Upgrading Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 fails
Message-ID: <gk8i07$kjt$1@ger.gmane.org>

I'm finally getting around to upgrading my Feisty system.
I do get the "Version Upgrade" option in Adept Manager, but
during the "Preparing the upgrade" phase it fails with the following error:

============
Error during update
A problem occured during the update. This is usually some sort of
network problem, please check you network connection an retry.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Failed to fetch 
http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 
404 Not Found
Failed to fetch 
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz 
404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
Failed to fetch 
http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 
404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
Failed to fetch 
http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz 
404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
Failed to fetch 
http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/source/Sources.gz 
404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
Failed to fetch 
http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/restricted/source/Sources.gz 
404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
Failed to fetch 
http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz 
404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
Failed to fetch 
http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/source/Sources.gz 
404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
=============

My network connection is fine.
I don't know why its searching fo old Feisty files while upgrading to Gutsy.

Any ideas on how to proceed with this updagrade"

Lance DeVooght




From kassube at gmx.net  Fri Jan  9 22:36:54 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 23:36:54 +0100
Subject: Upgrading Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 fails
In-Reply-To: <gk8i07$kjt$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <gk8i07$kjt$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200901092336.54381.kassube@gmx.net>

Lance DeVooght wrote:
> I'm finally getting around to upgrading my Feisty system.
> I do get the "Version Upgrade" option in Adept Manager, but
> during the "Preparing the upgrade" phase it fails with the following
> error:

Feisty is no longer supported and therefore you can't use the standard 
servers. Look here for the necessary info:
<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades>


Nils



From cary at bielenberg.id.au  Fri Jan  9 22:39:29 2009
From: cary at bielenberg.id.au (Cary Bielenberg)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:39:29 +1000
Subject: Upgrading Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 fails
In-Reply-To: <gk8i07$kjt$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <gk8i07$kjt$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4967D221.3070301@bielenberg.id.au>

Lance DeVooght wrote:
> I'm finally getting around to upgrading my Feisty system.
> I do get the "Version Upgrade" option in Adept Manager, but
> during the "Preparing the upgrade" phase it fails with the following error:
>
> ============
> Error during update
> A problem occured during the update. This is usually some sort of
> network problem, please check you network connection an retry.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Failed to fetch 
> http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 
> 404 Not Found
> Failed to fetch 
> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz 
> 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
> Failed to fetch 
> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 
> 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
> Failed to fetch 
> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz 
> 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
> Failed to fetch 
> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/source/Sources.gz 
> 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
> Failed to fetch 
> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/restricted/source/Sources.gz 
> 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
> Failed to fetch 
> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz 
> 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
> Failed to fetch 
> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/source/Sources.gz 
> 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> =============
>
> My network connection is fine.
> I don't know why its searching fo old Feisty files while upgrading to Gutsy.
>
> Any ideas on how to proceed with this updagrade"
>
> Lance DeVooght
>
>
>   
Is Gutsy supported anymore? I don't think there is even a repo list for 
it? Why wouldn't you go straight to Hardy?


Cary




From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sat Jan 10 00:08:13 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:08:13 -0500
Subject: Upgrading Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 fails
In-Reply-To: <4967D221.3070301@bielenberg.id.au>
References: <gk8i07$kjt$1@ger.gmane.org> <4967D221.3070301@bielenberg.id.au>
Message-ID: <4967E6ED.2090601@gatech.edu>

Cary Bielenberg wrote:
> Is Gutsy supported anymore? I don't think there is even a repo list for 
> it?

Yes, according to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#cite_ref-gutsy_release_26-1
.  However, I would recommend the OP upgrade to Hardy.  He will have to
first switch his Feisty repos to those listed at
http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ .

If this is too much hassle, just backup and install Hardy from sratch.

Matt Flaschen



From devooght at comcast.net  Sat Jan 10 00:18:06 2009
From: devooght at comcast.net (Lance DeVooght)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:18:06 -0500
Subject: Upgrading Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 fails
In-Reply-To: <4967E6ED.2090601@gatech.edu>
References: <gk8i07$kjt$1@ger.gmane.org> <4967D221.3070301@bielenberg.id.au>
	<4967E6ED.2090601@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <gk8pg1$ekk$1@ger.gmane.org>

Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Cary Bielenberg wrote:
>> Is Gutsy supported anymore? I don't think there is even a repo list for 
>> it?
> 
> Yes, according to
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#cite_ref-gutsy_release_26-1
> .  However, I would recommend the OP upgrade to Hardy.  He will have to
> first switch his Feisty repos to those listed at
> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ .
> 
> If this is too much hassle, just backup and install Hardy from sratch.
> 
> Matt Flaschen
> 

Matt and everyone,

I do plan to upgrade to the latest LTS version (8.04), but
according to the howto's I've read systems should only be
upgraded one level at a time.

Is this not so?

Lance




From devooght at comcast.net  Sat Jan 10 00:22:10 2009
From: devooght at comcast.net (Lance DeVooght)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:22:10 -0500
Subject: Upgrading Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 fails
In-Reply-To: <200901092336.54381.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <gk8i07$kjt$1@ger.gmane.org> <200901092336.54381.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <gk8pnl$ekk$3@ger.gmane.org>

Nils Kassube wrote:
> Lance DeVooght wrote:
>> I'm finally getting around to upgrading my Feisty system.
>> I do get the "Version Upgrade" option in Adept Manager, but
>> during the "Preparing the upgrade" phase it fails with the following
>> error:
> 
> Feisty is no longer supported and therefore you can't use the standard 
> servers. Look here for the necessary info:
> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades>
> 
> 
> Nils
> 

Nils,

	I was using the procedure described on the link you provided.

Lance




From devooght at comcast.net  Sat Jan 10 00:20:19 2009
From: devooght at comcast.net (Lance DeVooght)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:20:19 -0500
Subject: Upgrading Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 fails
In-Reply-To: <4967D221.3070301@bielenberg.id.au>
References: <gk8i07$kjt$1@ger.gmane.org> <4967D221.3070301@bielenberg.id.au>
Message-ID: <gk8pkg$ekk$2@ger.gmane.org>

Cary Bielenberg wrote:
> Lance DeVooght wrote:
>> I'm finally getting around to upgrading my Feisty system.
>> I do get the "Version Upgrade" option in Adept Manager, but
>> during the "Preparing the upgrade" phase it fails with the following error:

>>
>>   
> Is Gutsy supported anymore? I don't think there is even a repo list for 
> it? Why wouldn't you go straight to Hardy?
> 
> 
> Cary

Cary,
According the the Ubuntu documentation a system should
only be upgraded one level at a time.

Is this not so?

Lance




From mdshaw89 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 00:49:19 2009
From: mdshaw89 at gmail.com (Mike Shaw)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 19:49:19 -0500
Subject: wi-fi printer
In-Reply-To: <4967BF43.3010403@lemmons.name>
References: <mailman.10824.1231443863.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
	<49665FA6.6020404@btinternet.com>
	<d11e8140901090902q397446f6n932187684fd47f02@mail.gmail.com>
	<4967BF43.3010403@lemmons.name>
Message-ID: <d11e8140901091649y75804c57v52df344e1cca1949@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Paul Lemmons <paul at lemmons.name> wrote:
> -------- Original Message  --------
> Subject: Re:wi-fi printer
> From: "Mike Shaw" <mdshaw89 at gmail.com>
> To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: 01/09/2009 10:02 AM
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Brian Norman Wootton
>> <Brian.Meg at btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> But how do you get into the machine to do the initial configuration? I
>>> mean,
>>> setting the WiFi network ID and password?
>>
>> I have an "HP Photosmart C4380 All-in-One Printer" which has a
>> wireless G interface besides USB.  And the HPLIP software cannot
>> perform the initial configuration for wireless.  SO UNLESS YOU HAVE A
>> WINDOZE BOX YOU CANNOT SETUP THIS PRINTER FOR WIRELESS!
>>
>
> Simply not true.
>
> The entire networking setup, including wireless can be setup on the setup
> menu on the printer itself. This has been true on every one of the printers
> I have setup. I always setup my Linux connectivity first to test the printer
> because it is so much easier than the Windows setup. Once I have it working
> with Linux I setup any Windows machines that need access.
>

Okay - if that's true you won't giving me a menu walkthrough to do
this for the C4380?

-- 
Ed: This is worse than when he was just stupid! - from "Sitting Ducks"



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sat Jan 10 00:52:15 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:52:15 -0500
Subject: Upgrading Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 fails
In-Reply-To: <gk8pg1$ekk$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <gk8i07$kjt$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4967D221.3070301@bielenberg.id.au>	<4967E6ED.2090601@gatech.edu>
	<gk8pg1$ekk$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4967F13F.7060603@gatech.edu>

Lance DeVooght wrote:
> Matt and everyone,
> 
> I do plan to upgrade to the latest LTS version (8.04), but
> according to the howto's I've read systems should only be
> upgraded one level at a time.

Yes, with some exceptions (e.g. it's supported to upgrade directly from
6.06 LTS to 8.04 LTS).  You're on the right track.  Just use the
old-releases repositories for Feisty.  Then, the upgrade manager should
be able to handle all the other upgrades without much tweaking.

Matt Flaschen




From cary at bielenberg.id.au  Sat Jan 10 01:05:26 2009
From: cary at bielenberg.id.au (Cary Bielenberg)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:05:26 +1000
Subject: Upgrading Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 fails
In-Reply-To: <gk8pkg$ekk$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <gk8i07$kjt$1@ger.gmane.org> <4967D221.3070301@bielenberg.id.au>
	<gk8pkg$ekk$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4967F456.6070804@bielenberg.id.au>

Lance DeVooght wrote:
> Cary Bielenberg wrote:
>   
>> Lance DeVooght wrote:
>>     
>>> I'm finally getting around to upgrading my Feisty system.
>>> I do get the "Version Upgrade" option in Adept Manager, but
>>> during the "Preparing the upgrade" phase it fails with the following error:
>>>       
>
>   
>>>   
>>>       
>> Is Gutsy supported anymore? I don't think there is even a repo list for 
>> it? Why wouldn't you go straight to Hardy?
>>
>>
>> Cary
>>     
>
> Cary,
> According the the Ubuntu documentation a system should
> only be upgraded one level at a time.
>
> Is this not so?
>
> Lance
>
>
>   
I don't know about the documentation but I upgraded some Edgy Pc's to 
Hardy before Christmas without any problems! From Edgy you get a dialog 
box when you start saying it's not supported but I just blundered 
through (had my cowboy spurs on) & after the reboot it was a perfect 
Hardy install.


Cary
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From art.alexion at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 04:15:14 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:15:14 -0500
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <4967C054.7070606@lemmons.name>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com> <4967C054.7070606@lemmons.name>
Message-ID: <496820D2.2020205@gmail.com>

On 01/09/2009 Paul Lemmons wrote:
> Sounds like you are describing DropBox.
> 
> https://www.getdropbox.com/
> 
> Totally transparent synchronization between multiple machines running diverse operating systems. Files are also cached online so that you have access even on machines that are not being synchronized.

I've been using this a lot, and other than privacy concerns, it is quite 
nice.  Contrary to the advertised functionality, it works as well with 
KDE as it does with gnome.  With nautilus, you get special icon marks 
that tell you whether a file has not yet been uploaded, whether the 
upload is in progress or whether all syncing is done.  With kde it is 
not shown on a per file basis.

I have it running on gnome, kde and windows, and the syncing works fine.

I have used it for work docs that I want to edit at home, and things 
like comparing sources.list files among machines.



From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 06:26:12 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:26:12 +0200
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <496820D2.2020205@gmail.com>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com> <4967C054.7070606@lemmons.name>
	<496820D2.2020205@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49683F84.1070002@gmail.com>

Art Alexion wrote:
> On 01/09/2009 Paul Lemmons wrote:
>> Sounds like you are describing DropBox.
>>
>> https://www.getdropbox.com/
>>
>> Totally transparent synchronization between multiple machines running diverse operating systems. Files are also cached online so that you have access even on machines that are not being synchronized.
> 
> I've been using this a lot, and other than privacy concerns, it is quite 
> nice.  Contrary to the advertised functionality, it works as well with 
> KDE as it does with gnome.  With nautilus, you get special icon marks 
> that tell you whether a file has not yet been uploaded, whether the 
> upload is in progress or whether all syncing is done.  With kde it is 
> not shown on a per file basis.
> 
> I have it running on gnome, kde and windows, and the syncing works fine.
> 
> I have used it for work docs that I want to edit at home, and things 
> like comparing sources.list files among machines.
> 
could be nice but I don't want to involve internet - if I could install 
it on a server perhaps. Bandwidth is a MAJOR issue where I reside. You 
are looking at an office with 256 Kb DSL - shared by +10 staff...





From jonorland at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 10:18:20 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:18:20 +0100
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
Message-ID: <b8d784880901100218o4c4ee6e7p9d8487f91f842e11@mail.gmail.com>

Todays update of openoffice.org 3 from PPA don't fix the bug in the
openoffice.ork-kde package. I still got an error when starting and
then it shuts down.



From ash8kewl at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 10:58:32 2009
From: ash8kewl at gmail.com (Ash)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:58:32 +0700
Subject: Grub 1.5 Error 17
Message-ID: <a18195e20901100258l5c266602xccf681f6d3f6a61@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I dared to adjust the partion space on my notebook today.

Upon reboot,, I am getting the message "Grub 1.5 loading.... please wait "
followed by Error 17.

I have no idea what to do next.

Pls advise.

Thank you

- Ash

-- 
Generate space in life by generating space in our own mind!!
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From d.mcglone at att.net  Sat Jan 10 12:44:03 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:44:03 -0500
Subject: How can I find if I have Read/Write permission in Wine-Windows
	Registry?
In-Reply-To: <200901091527.59856.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901080046.58800.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901080630.00404.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<200901091527.59856.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901100744.03248.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Friday 09 January 2009 3:27:59 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> > Steven, have you looked into Bible Time for linux? I use it and it works
> > great. That way you don't have to fool around with wine.
>
> I have, David, and I really prefer e-Sword.  I will even accept this
> problem, if I have to.  It would just be nice to return to the proper page.
>  I have memory problems in my old age, and I sometimes have difficulty
> remembering where I left off.  Thanks.

Ok, No problem.

Keep in mind though, Bible Time will save your position on exit.

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From art.alexion at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 17:12:12 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:12:12 -0500
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <49683F84.1070002@gmail.com>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com> <496820D2.2020205@gmail.com>
	<49683F84.1070002@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901101212.13210.art.alexion@gmail.com>

On Saturday 10 January 2009 01:26:12 O. Sinclair wrote:
> Art Alexion wrote:
> > On 01/09/2009 Paul Lemmons wrote:
> >> Sounds like you are describing DropBox.
> >>
> >> https://www.getdropbox.com/
> >>
> >> Totally transparent synchronization between multiple machines running
> >> diverse operating systems. 
>
> could be nice but I don't want to involve internet - if I could install
> it on a server perhaps. Bandwidth is a MAJOR issue where I reside. You
> are looking at an office with 256 Kb DSL - shared by +10 staff...

Not quite certain but I think it is OpenSource (I know parts of it are for 
sure).  If you have the skills, you might be able to hack it to run on a 
local server.


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From karlok at fastmail.fm  Sat Jan 10 17:35:54 2009
From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:35:54 -0800
Subject: Grub 1.5 Error 17
In-Reply-To: <a18195e20901100258l5c266602xccf681f6d3f6a61@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a18195e20901100258l5c266602xccf681f6d3f6a61@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4968DC7A.8070308@fastmail.fm>

Ash wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I dared to adjust the partion space on my notebook today.
> 
> Upon reboot,, I am getting the message "Grub 1.5 loading.... please wait 
> " followed by Error 17.
> 
The problem is that the master boot record on your hard disk no longer 
points to the partition containing grub and the kernel.

To fix it, boot with install cd and choose the option to rescue a broken 
system (i'm not familiar with the live cd, but I would think it must 
have such an option).  Then enter the following commands:

grub
root (hd0,nn)
setup (hd0)
quit

where hd0 is the first hard disk (I assume there is only one on your 
laptop), and nn is the zero-based partition number of the partition 
containing the grub files and the kernel.  For example, if the boot 
files are on sda3, nn would be 2.

You should now be able to boot and get the grub menu, and if the uuid's 
of your partitions haven't changed, you should be set to go.

Karl



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Sat Jan 10 18:21:23 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:21:23 -0600
Subject: KVM Switch Problem - 8.10/64
Message-ID: <4968E723.6090900@swbell.net>

I have two computers that share one monitor, keyboard, mouse through a 
KVM switch. Whenever I switch between 8.10/64 and the other computer and 
switch back I lose the keyboard and mouse. The only way to get 
everything back is shut down the computer and reboot.

It works fine in 8.04.

Do I need to post a bug [ or is this an undocumented feature ]?

Should I post it on Kubuntu or KDE [ or both ]?

-- 
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.



From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 18:25:28 2009
From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?=)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:25:28 +0100
Subject: WiFi-printers  Error: ''no DHCPOFFERS received''
Message-ID: <200901101925.29461.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com>

Namastè,

I've connected my HP C6380 via the Linksys WUSB54gr wireless card (at least, that is 
what I try).
The configuration program RutilT finds my printer, as soon as the printer is on. My 
laptop then sends ''DHCPDISCOVER on WLAN0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15''.
After some attempts, I receive the message: ''no DHCPOFFERS received'', and RutilT 
shows my printer as disconnected again.

Does anybody know (or has a clue) what might be going on? The HP software on my 
linuxbox (Debian 4.0) is well installed.  

Thanks.

-- 
Love and Light,
Ulrich
¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø

       " To faith only the holy is true, to knowledge only the true is holy "
                                           (L. Feuerbach)           

¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø
OS: Kubuntu 8.04 (Linux)        de.geocities.com/india_ulrich/Philosophie.html
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From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Sat Jan 10 18:36:44 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:36:44 -0800
Subject: How can I find if I have Read/Write permission in Wine-Windows
	Registry?
In-Reply-To: <200901100744.03248.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901080046.58800.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901091527.59856.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901100744.03248.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <200901101036.44833.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Saturday 10 January 2009 4:44:03 am David McGlone wrote:
> On Friday 09 January 2009 3:27:59 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> > > Steven, have you looked into Bible Time for linux? I use it and it
> > > works great. That way you don't have to fool around with wine.
> >
> > I have, David, and I really prefer e-Sword.  I will even accept this
> > problem, if I have to.  It would just be nice to return to the proper
> > page. I have memory problems in my old age, and I sometimes have
> > difficulty remembering where I left off.  Thanks.
>
> Ok, No problem.
>
> Keep in mind though, Bible Time will save your position on exit.

Yes, it is a very nice interface!  I use the parallel features a lot so I tend 
to have three or four versions up at once on the screen.  It uses the Bibles 
from the Sword project so I have all but three of the English Bibles on my 
computer.  The three I don't have are the three written to promote a specific 
religion.  I find those to be quite misleading so I took them off of my 
computer.  (they have those red x icons on them in the bookshelf manager)



-- 
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http://the-inner-circle.org
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From lanzenesi at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 19:52:54 2009
From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:52:54 +0100
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901100218o4c4ee6e7p9d8487f91f842e11@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b8d784880901100218o4c4ee6e7p9d8487f91f842e11@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901102052.54925.lanzenesi@gmail.com>

On Saturday 10 January 2009 11:18:20 Jonas Norlander wrote:

> Todays update of openoffice.org 3 from PPA don't fix the bug in the
> openoffice.ork-kde package. I still got an error when starting and
> then it shuts down.

Confirmed. And unfortunately the fix that worked on 3.0 doesn't work anymore.

-- 
lanzen



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Sat Jan 10 20:17:03 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:17:03 -0500
Subject: kde-4 issue on 8.04 LTS?
Message-ID: <200901101517.04031.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

Greetings all;

I have a sacrificial old box I call goat cuz its being sacrificed on the alter 
of knowledge.

Fresh install of ubuntu-8.04 LTS and then updated, I found the meta file for 
kde-4 and installed 250+ packages of kde with it.  Twice now, once with the 
default installer and once with synaptic, they don't seem to be aware of each 
others databases.  That brings up the requestor (both times) that confirms my 
choice of kdm-kde4 as the window manager.

On reboot, the kubuntu splash comes up, but at login it looks as if it is 
using the gnome login.  Once the user and pw have been entered, the kubunutu 
splash comes back until it actually does the startx, at which time it is back 
to gnome for the desktop, but with a large number of kde apps present in the 
menu's.

What does it take to make it kde4 all the way?

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Save the bales!



From paul at lemmons.name  Sat Jan 10 20:44:24 2009
From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:44:24 -0700
Subject: wi-fi printer
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From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Sat Jan 10 21:12:36 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:12:36 -0500
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
In-Reply-To: <200901102052.54925.lanzenesi@gmail.com>
References: <b8d784880901100218o4c4ee6e7p9d8487f91f842e11@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901102052.54925.lanzenesi@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901101612.37114.pkaplan1@comcast.net>

On Saturday 10 January 2009 14:52 lanzen wrote:
> On Saturday 10 January 2009 11:18:20 Jonas Norlander wrote:
> > Todays update of openoffice.org 3 from PPA don't fix the bug in the
> > openoffice.ork-kde package. I still got an error when starting and
> > then it shuts down.
>
> Confirmed. And unfortunately the fix that worked on 3.0 doesn't work
> anymore.
>
But it seems that removing openoffice.org-kde restores functionality and it 
doesn't seem as ugly as when doing this with the earlier problematic update.  
At least it's usable.
Paul



From doc.evans at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 21:22:01 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:22:01 -0700
Subject: KVM Switch Problem - 8.10/64
In-Reply-To: <4968E723.6090900@swbell.net>
References: <4968E723.6090900@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <49691179.30404@gmail.com>

Billie Erin Walsh said the following at 01/10/2009 11:21 AM :
> I have two computers that share one monitor, keyboard, mouse through a 
> KVM switch. Whenever I switch between 8.10/64 and the other computer and 
> switch back I lose the keyboard and mouse. The only way to get 
> everything back is shut down the computer and reboot.
> 
> It works fine in 8.04.
> 
> Do I need to post a bug [ or is this an undocumented feature ]?
> 
> Should I post it on Kubuntu or KDE [ or both ]?
> 

Certainly not KDE. You can try on Kubuntu, but my guess (FWIW) is that it's
really a kernel issue.

I have experienced some interesting KVM weirdnesses with 64-bit 8.10. In
particular: it was truly awful with the initial release, but a couple of
weeks after that there was a kernel update that (mostly) fixed the problem.
Now it's down to occasional freezes that are fixed by physically removing
and reinstalling the connectors or (less frequently) switching to the
console or another computer and back again. Every now and then following a
reboot the mouse is completely dead, in which case I have found no
workaround except to reboot again. But since I reboot only after a kernel
update that doesn't affect me much.

  Doc

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From mdshaw89 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 21:23:27 2009
From: mdshaw89 at gmail.com (Mike Shaw)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:23:27 -0500
Subject: wi-fi printer
In-Reply-To: <496908A8.7030001@lemmons.name>
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On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Paul Lemmons <paul at lemmons.name> wrote:
>
>
> Mike Shaw wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Paul Lemmons <paul at lemmons.name> wrote:
>
>
> -------- Original Message  --------
> Subject: Re:wi-fi printer
> From: "Mike Shaw" <mdshaw89 at gmail.com>
> To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: 01/09/2009 10:02 AM
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Brian Norman Wootton
> <Brian.Meg at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> But how do you get into the machine to do the initial configuration? I
> mean,
> setting the WiFi network ID and password?
>
>
> I have an "HP Photosmart C4380 All-in-One Printer" which has a
> wireless G interface besides USB.  And the HPLIP software cannot
> perform the initial configuration for wireless.  SO UNLESS YOU HAVE A
> WINDOZE BOX YOU CANNOT SETUP THIS PRINTER FOR WIRELESS!
>
>
>
> Simply not true.
>
> The entire networking setup, including wireless can be setup on the setup
> menu on the printer itself. This has been true on every one of the printers
> I have setup. I always setup my Linux connectivity first to test the printer
> because it is so much easier than the Windows setup. Once I have it working
> with Linux I setup any Windows machines that need access.
>
>
>
> Okay - if that's true you won't giving me a menu walkthrough to do
> this for the C4380?
>
>
>
> http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01153703/c01153703.pdf
>
> The above manual says:
>
> "Manage your network settings
>
> You can manage network settings for the HP All-in-One through the HP
> All-in-One control
> panel.
>
> Change basic network settings from the control panel
> The HP All-in-One control panel enables you to perform a variety of network
> management
> tasks. This includes printing the network settings, restoring the network
> defaults, turning
> the wireless radio on and off, and printing a wireless network test."
>
>
> So, I stand corrected and do apologize. It appears that you can setup
> everything but the WEP/WPA key on this printer from the control panel. To do
> that you need either a MAC or Windows PC with a USB cable.
>
> I have setup three different flavors (j6400 series,c7200 series, c6100
> series) and they all permit adding a WEP/WPA key from the setup panel on the
> printer. After three excellent experiences I jumped to the false conclusion
> that HP was consistent in their design and I did it publicly. I hate it when
> I do that.
>

No prob, I had figured the same thing before I bought it and was sadly
disappointed. :(

Also I can tell you from my setup experience it will not initially
just "pick-up" an IP from your DHCP server even if you are wide-open,
i.e. no WEP, no WPA, etc.  The only way I was able to do the initial
setup was from Windoze.  Since then I have had no problems other than
it loosing communications with my systems(sadly they are only 6 feet
away) if the power flickered.  I finally helped things by setting this
guy up with a static IP and putting him on my UPS.  Haven't had any
problems since.

l8r,

Mike
-- 
Ed: This is worse than when he was just stupid! - from "Sitting Ducks"



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 10 21:31:45 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:31:45 -0500
Subject: How do I remove Newsmax from my emails?
Message-ID: <200901101631.46320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

It isn't that I don't like what I read on Newsmax, it is that I don't like to 
get what I don't request.  Newsmax has a remove me withing 24 hours option 
that just does not work.  I have tried that many times, in fact, yesterday at 
the most recent and the day before that.

Again, I am a little dense on understanding the filter function of my email 
service, Kmail.  Is it possible to have Kmail just delete them as they 
arrive.  If so, how do I set up that option?

From: 
"Newsmax.com" <newsmax at newsmax.sparklist.com> is how it shows when I receive 
them.  Thanks!

Steven



From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Sat Jan 10 21:52:33 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:52:33 -0800
Subject: kde-4 issue on 8.04 LTS?
In-Reply-To: <200901101517.04031.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901101517.04031.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901101352.33491.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Saturday 10 January 2009 12:17:03 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
>
> I have a sacrificial old box I call goat cuz its being sacrificed on the
> alter of knowledge.
>
> Fresh install of ubuntu-8.04 LTS and then updated, I found the meta file
> for kde-4 and installed 250+ packages of kde with it.  Twice now, once with
> the default installer and once with synaptic, they don't seem to be aware
> of each others databases.  That brings up the requestor (both times) that
> confirms my choice of kdm-kde4 as the window manager.
>
> On reboot, the kubuntu splash comes up, but at login it looks as if it is
> using the gnome login.  Once the user and pw have been entered, the
> kubunutu splash comes back until it actually does the startx, at which time
> it is back to gnome for the desktop, but with a large number of kde apps
> present in the menu's.
>
> What does it take to make it kde4 all the way?

In your Gnome login screen just select "change sessions" and pick KDE4.  Then 
sign in!  It will ask you if you want to make it the default but I wouldn't 
do that till you are comfortable with KDE4.  Just pick "for this session 
only".  You also could have installed the regular KDE meta package and you 
would have a triple boot machine!  Even a quad if you also left that lame 
windoze on your machine!  




-- 
73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n><   PDGA# 35276
http://the-inner-circle.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr



From art.alexion at gmail.com  Sat Jan 10 23:37:07 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:37:07 -0500
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
Message-ID: <200901101837.08123.art.alexion@gmail.com>

On Saturday 10 January 2009 14:52:54 lanzen wrote:
> On Saturday 10 January 2009 11:18:20 Jonas Norlander wrote:
> > Todays update of openoffice.org 3 from PPA don't fix the bug in the
> > openoffice.ork-kde package. I still got an error when starting and
> > then it shuts down.
>
> Confirmed. And unfortunately the fix that worked on 3.0 doesn't work
> anymore.

Works fine on 8.04
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From ash8kewl at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 02:22:30 2009
From: ash8kewl at gmail.com (Ash)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:52:30 +0530
Subject: Grub Error 17
Message-ID: <a18195e20901101822me3d45fye3b40713ef082d78@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
In my desperate attempt to fic the Grub Error problem, I mounted the Win XP
CD and ran fixmbr and fixboot on the repair console.

Now my system is working again except one thing!!

It straight away boots Win XP giving me no option to load Ubuntu.

I checked the partitions on Partition Manager and it shows that Linux is
still there.

How do I get the option for multibooting again?

Eagerly waiting for solution!

Thank you.

- Ash


> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:58:32 +0700
> From: Ash <ash8kewl at gmail.com>
> Subject: Grub 1.5 Error 17
> To: kubuntu-users <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
>        <a18195e20901100258l5c266602xccf681f6d3f6a61 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi all,
>
> I dared to adjust the partion space on my notebook today.
>
> Upon reboot,, I am getting the message "Grub 1.5 loading.... please wait "
> followed by Error 17.
>
> I have no idea what to do next.
>
> Pls advise.
>
> Thank you
>
> - Ash
>
>
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>
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From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com  Sun Jan 11 04:18:22 2009
From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (tom bell)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:18:22 -0500
Subject: kde-4 issue on 8.04 LTS?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.16513.1231620269.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.16513.1231620269.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <4969730E.30701@cfl.rr.com>


On 01/10/2009 kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com inscribed:
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:17:03 -0500
> From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net>
> Subject: kde-4 issue on 8.04 LTS?
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <200901101517.04031.gene.heskett at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Greetings all;
> 
> I have a sacrificial old box I call goat cuz its being sacrificed on the alter 
> of knowledge.
> 
> Fresh install of ubuntu-8.04 LTS and then updated, I found the meta file for 
> kde-4 and installed 250+ packages of kde with it.  Twice now, once with the 
> default installer and once with synaptic, they don't seem to be aware of each 
> others databases.  That brings up the requestor (both times) that confirms my 
> choice of kdm-kde4 as the window manager.
> 
> On reboot, the kubuntu splash comes up, but at login it looks as if it is 
> using the gnome login.  Once the user and pw have been entered, the kubunutu 
> splash comes back until it actually does the startx, at which time it is back 
> to gnome for the desktop, but with a large number of kde apps present in the 
> menu's.
> 
> What does it take to make it kde4 all the way?
> 
> -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Save the bales! 


On the login screen there is an option at the bottom that when clicked
on will allow you to login into KDE4, ...or not at you wish.

Tom Bell
-- 
“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when
we created them.”
-- Albert Einstein, Physicist (1879-1955)



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Sun Jan 11 04:20:58 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:20:58 -0500
Subject: Grub Error 17
In-Reply-To: <a18195e20901101822me3d45fye3b40713ef082d78@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a18195e20901101822me3d45fye3b40713ef082d78@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901102320.58335.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Saturday 10 January 2009, Ash wrote:
>Hi all,
>In my desperate attempt to fic the Grub Error problem, I mounted the Win XP
>CD and ran fixmbr and fixboot on the repair console.
>
>Now my system is working again except one thing!!
>
>It straight away boots Win XP giving me no option to load Ubuntu.
>
>I checked the partitions on Partition Manager and it shows that Linux is
>still there.
>
>How do I get the option for multibooting again?
>
>Eagerly waiting for solution!
>
>Thank you.
>
>- Ash
>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:58:32 +0700
>> From: Ash <ash8kewl at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Grub 1.5 Error 17
>> To: kubuntu-users <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
>>        <a18195e20901100258l5c266602xccf681f6d3f6a61 at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I dared to adjust the partion space on my notebook today.
>>
>> Upon reboot,, I am getting the message "Grub 1.5 loading.... please wait "
>> followed by Error 17.
>>
>> I have no idea what to do next.

Boot the rescue cd and reinstall grub.  Then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst as is 
documented to chainload +1 the windows partition.

>> Pls advise.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> - Ash
>>
>>
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>>
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Life is like a 10 speed bicycle.  Most of us have gears we never use.
		-- C. Schultz



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Sun Jan 11 05:03:35 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:03:35 -0500
Subject: kde-4 issue on 8.04 LTS?
In-Reply-To: <4969730E.30701@cfl.rr.com>
References: <mailman.16513.1231620269.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
	<4969730E.30701@cfl.rr.com>
Message-ID: <200901110003.35285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Saturday 10 January 2009, tom bell wrote:
>On 01/10/2009 kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com inscribed:
>> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:17:03 -0500
>> From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net>
>> Subject: kde-4 issue on 8.04 LTS?
>> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <200901101517.04031.gene.heskett at verizon.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Greetings all;
>>
>> I have a sacrificial old box I call goat cuz its being sacrificed on the
>> alter of knowledge.
>>
>> Fresh install of ubuntu-8.04 LTS and then updated, I found the meta file
>> for kde-4 and installed 250+ packages of kde with it.  Twice now, once
>> with the default installer and once with synaptic, they don't seem to be
>> aware of each others databases.  That brings up the requestor (both times)
>> that confirms my choice of kdm-kde4 as the window manager.
>>
>> On reboot, the kubuntu splash comes up, but at login it looks as if it is
>> using the gnome login.  Once the user and pw have been entered, the
>> kubunutu splash comes back until it actually does the startx, at which
>> time it is back to gnome for the desktop, but with a large number of kde
>> apps present in the menu's.
>>
>> What does it take to make it kde4 all the way?
>>
>> -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt
>> (Author) Save the bales!
>
>On the login screen there is an option at the bottom that when clicked
>on will allow you to login into KDE4, ...or not at you wish.

Sorry, 'tisn't there.  But the login screen now has a K logo too. Ahh, hidden 
in a sub-menu of the menu buttons pull down, duh.  And it works, but how do I 
make it the default?

And, how can I shrink the pagers window frames?  They are about the size of a 
postage stamp each, 10x the real estate the gnome frames use, and use most of 
the bar when I get enough to work with setup.  Here on this screen with 
kde-3.5.10, the whole pager is about 1.2 cm tall and <4 cm long, in two rows 
of 4, leaving lots of bar to drop other stuff on.  That screen is not of 
course near the resolution of this one, it's an old compaq 15", 800x600 maybe 
& getting long in the tooth fuzzy, lcd 1680x1050 here.

Thanks Tom.

>Tom Bell
>--
>“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when
>we created them.”
>-- Albert Einstein, Physicist (1879-1955)



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
The human brain is a wonderful thing.  It starts working the moment
you are born, and never stops until you stand up to speak in public.
		-- Sir George Jessel




From karlok at fastmail.fm  Sun Jan 11 05:15:37 2009
From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:15:37 -0800
Subject: Grub Error 17
In-Reply-To: <a18195e20901101822me3d45fye3b40713ef082d78@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a18195e20901101822me3d45fye3b40713ef082d78@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49698079.8020903@fastmail.fm>

Ash wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> In my desperate attempt to fic the Grub Error problem, I mounted the Win 
> XP CD and ran fixmbr and fixboot on the repair console. 
> 
> Now my system is working again except one thing!!
> 
> It straight away boots Win XP giving me no option to load Ubuntu.
> 
> I checked the partitions on Partition Manager and it shows that Linux is 
> still there. 
> 
> How do I get the option for multibooting again?
> 
> Eagerly waiting for solution!
> 

Apparently you did not get my reply to your original question this 
morning, so I'll repeat it:

> The problem is that the master boot record on your hard disk no longer 
> points to the partition containing grub and the kernel.
> 
> To fix it, boot with install cd and choose the option to rescue a broken 
> system (I'm not familiar with the live cd, but I would think it must 
> have such an option).  Then enter the following commands:
> 
> grub
> root (hd0,nn)
> setup (hd0)
> quit
> 
> where hd0 is the first hard disk (I assume there is only one on your 
> laptop), and nn is the zero-based partition number of the partition 
> containing the grub files and the kernel.  For example, if the boot 
> files are on sda3, nn would be 2.
> 
> You should now be able to boot and get the grub menu, and if the uuid's 
> of your partitions haven't changed, you should be set to go.

Oops, I see now that that should have been "sudo grub".  This brings up 
the grub prompt like this:

>        [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.   For
>          the   first   word,  TAB  lists  possible  command
>          completions.  Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
>          completions of a device/filename. ]
> 
> grub> 

Now you have to tell grub which partition the grub files and kernel are 
on.  You can use the tab key to get grub to list the partitions as it 
sees them like this:

> grub> root (hd0,<tab>
>  Possible partitions are:
>    Partition num: 0,  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
>    Partition num: 1,  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82
>    Partition num: 4,  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
>    Partition num: 5,  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
>    Partition num: 6,  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x83
>    Partition num: 7,  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
>    Partition num: 8,  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
>    Partition num: 9,  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
>    Partition num: 10,  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
> 
> grub> root (hd0,

Complete the root command, in my case "root (hd0,4)" and type in the 
"setup (hd0)" command.  This makes the master boot record point to your 
Linux partition, and you should be set to go.

Karl



From gkourtev at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 14:28:57 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:28:57 +0200
Subject: OOo 3.0.1 does not work
Message-ID: <200901111628.57562.gkourtev@gmail.com>

Today I upgraded my Open office suite from 2.4.1 to 3.0.1 using the following 
software source:

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu interpid main

After this update open office is not operational at all. It starts then crashes 
immediately. Any help please?
gk


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From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Sun Jan 11 15:17:57 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:17:57 -0500
Subject: OOo 3.0.1 does not work
In-Reply-To: <200901111628.57562.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901111628.57562.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901111017.57524.pkaplan1@comcast.net>

It's due to a bug in the openoffice.org-kde package.  Removing it may affect the 
look, but not the functionality.
P
On Sunday 11 January 2009 09:28 Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> Today I upgraded my Open office suite from 2.4.1 to 3.0.1 using the
> following software source:
>
> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu interpid main
>
> After this update open office is not operational at all. It starts then
> crashes immediately. Any help please?
> gk




From gkourtev at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 15:36:57 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:36:57 +0200
Subject: OOo 3.0.1 does not work
In-Reply-To: <200901111017.57524.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
References: <200901111628.57562.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<200901111017.57524.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <200901111736.57410.gkourtev@gmail.com>

It works that way although the look is rather ugly. 

How can I know when the issue with openoffice.org-kde is solved?
gk


On Sunday 11 January 2009 17:17:57 Paul Kaplan wrote:
> It's due to a bug in the openoffice.org-kde package.  Removing it may
> affect the look, but not the functionality.
> P
>
> On Sunday 11 January 2009 09:28 Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> > Today I upgraded my Open office suite from 2.4.1 to 3.0.1 using the
> > following software source:
> >
> > deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu interpid main
> >
> > After this update open office is not operational at all. It starts then
> > crashes immediately. Any help please?
> > gk


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From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Sun Jan 11 20:06:16 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:06:16 -0500
Subject: kde-4 issue on 8.04 LTS?
In-Reply-To: <200901110003.35285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <mailman.16513.1231620269.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
	<4969730E.30701@cfl.rr.com>
	<200901110003.35285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901111506.17001.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Sunday 11 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Sorry, 'tisn't there.  But the login screen now has a K logo too. Ahh,
> hidden in a sub-menu of the menu buttons pull down, duh.  And it works, but
> how do I make it the default?

I believe the default becomes  "the session you used last".



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Sun Jan 11 20:14:33 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:14:33 -0500
Subject: kde-4 issue on 8.04 LTS?
In-Reply-To: <200901111506.17001.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <mailman.16513.1231620269.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
	<200901110003.35285.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901111506.17001.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <200901111514.33309.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Sunday 11 January 2009, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>On Sunday 11 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Sorry, 'tisn't there.  But the login screen now has a K logo too. Ahh,
>> hidden in a sub-menu of the menu buttons pull down, duh.  And it works,
>> but how do I make it the default?
>
>I believe the default becomes  "the session you used last".

Thanks, we'll find out later as I dropped the power switch on it shortly after 
posting that last night.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Remember, in 2039, MOUSSE & PASTA will be available ONLY by prescription!!




From lanzenesi at gmail.com  Sun Jan 11 20:36:37 2009
From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:36:37 +0100
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
In-Reply-To: <200901101612.37114.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
References: <b8d784880901100218o4c4ee6e7p9d8487f91f842e11@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901102052.54925.lanzenesi@gmail.com>
	<200901101612.37114.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <200901112136.37934.lanzenesi@gmail.com>

On Saturday 10 January 2009 22:12:36 Paul Kaplan wrote:

> But it seems that removing openoffice.org-kde restores functionality and it
> doesn't seem as ugly as when doing this with the earlier problematic
> update. At least it's usable.

That worked for me with the previous version as a workaround until I did find a 
better fix. If I remove openoffice.org-kde now I get no menus.

-- 
lanzen



From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com  Sun Jan 11 23:29:24 2009
From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (tom bell)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:29:24 -0500
Subject: KDE-4 issue on 8.04 LTS?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.21.1231675204.18766.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.21.1231675204.18766.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <496A80D4.4060300@cfl.rr.com>



On 01/11/2009 kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com inscribed:
>> >On the login screen there is an option at the bottom that when clicked
>> >on will allow you to login into KDE4, ...or not at you wish.
> 
> Sorry, 'tisn't there.  But the login screen now has a K logo too. Ahh, hidden 
> in a sub-menu of the menu buttons pull down, duh.  And it works, but how do I 
> make it the default?

Go to "KMenu" -> "Favorites" -> "System Settings" -> "Advanced" tab ->
"Session Manager" -> "Window Manager" and make sure what you have for
default.

Tom Bell
-- 
“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when
we created them.”
-- Albert Einstein, Physicist (1879-1955)



From rjlapham at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 06:09:39 2009
From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:09:39 -0500
Subject: How do I remove Newsmax from my emails?
In-Reply-To: <200901101631.46320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901101631.46320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901120109.40088.rjlapham@gmail.com>

On Saturday 10 January 2009 4:31:45 pm Steven Vollom wrote:

> It isn't that I don't like what I read on Newsmax, it is that I don't like
> to get what I don't request.  Newsmax has a remove me withing 24 hours
> option that just does not work.  I have tried that many times, in fact,
> yesterday at the most recent and the day before that.
>
> Again, I am a little dense on understanding the filter function of my email
> service, Kmail.  Is it possible to have Kmail just delete them as they
> arrive.  If so, how do I set up that option?
>
> From:
> "Newsmax.com" <newsmax at newsmax.sparklist.com> is how it shows when I
> receive them.  Thanks!
>
> Steven

1.  Highlight your Newmax message

2. Right click for drop down menu

3. Left click on: Create Filter -> Filter on From

4. Select: "Match all of the following" and make it  "From  contains  newsmax"

5. Under Filter Actions select: Move into folder "trash"

That should take care of it.

	-Jerry
-- 
=============================================
Jerry Lapham
Monroe, OH  45050
rjlapham at gmail.com
=============================================
When you look at the actual consequences of "corporate greed" versus corporate 
philanthropy, you find that greed doesn't do nearly as much harm. -- Thomas 
Sowell



From magick.crow at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 07:07:17 2009
From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:07:17 +0100
Subject: 9.04 Nvidia help needed
Message-ID: <f495db580901112307m2c705e23r770c70cf50a665d1@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone know how to install the drivers? At first I thought that KDE4 was the
worlds slowest desktop but then I saw it was using the NV driver. I can't
for the life of me figure out how to get the other drivers. If I install
Nvidia from the repos it unistalls all of X!
Ideas? (Yes, I know it is alpha. I thought I would try and see if I could
help.)

-- 
Douglas E Knapp

Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE
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From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan 12 07:12:34 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:12:34 -0500
Subject: set up a root password
In-Reply-To: <200808060703.04190.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <9380203.CtfoeMoOqY@cedar.serverforest.com>
	<3543903.08JrRiEKnG@cedar.serverforest.com>
	<200808060703.04190.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901120212.35089.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Wednesday 06 August 2008, Nils Kassube wrote:
>Derek Broughton wrote:
>> Gene Heskett wrote:
>> > OTOH, that shell with root priv's should somehow make itself marked
>> > as such by a border color change or something, as when popping around
>> > to the various terminal shells running, it would be too easy to hit
>> > the wrong but root shell and mess the whole thing up.
>>
>> Can you imagine a way to do this?  It's a good idea, but I don't know
>> if it could be done.
>
>You could put something like this line
>
>[ "$UID" = 0 ] && PS1='\[\033[01m\033[41m\033[37m\]\h: \w/ #\[\033[m\] '
>
>in the files $HOME/.bashrc and /root/.bashrc right before this line:
>
>export PS1 PS2 ignoreeof
>
>It will give you a white prompt with red background independent of the way
>you get a root shell.
>
>
>Nils

That is something I'll try, sounds neat.

Now I have another question.  The machine is 8.04 LTS with kde-4 pulled in.  I 
find that an attempt to 'ssh -l only-user ad.dr.e.ss' is a "connection 
refused".

I believe sshd is running as it does show up in an lsof, so why is a legit 
user not asked for his passwd, and if the given one is correct, allowed in?

Thank you.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
You have an ability to sense and know higher truth.



From miron.florea at web.de  Mon Jan 12 07:23:54 2009
From: miron.florea at web.de (Octavian Florea)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:23:54 +0200
Subject: 9.04 Nvidia help needed
In-Reply-To: <f495db580901112307m2c705e23r770c70cf50a665d1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f495db580901112307m2c705e23r770c70cf50a665d1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496AF00A.3000804@web.de>

You must look in the ppa archives for nvidia-180-kernel-source, 
nvidia-180-modaliases, nvidia-glx-180.
Then you need to modify xorg.conf, adding the following lines:

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "IgnoreABI" "True"
EndSection







From wayward4now at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 08:00:05 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:00:05 -0500
Subject: 9.04 Nvidia help needed
In-Reply-To: <f495db580901112307m2c705e23r770c70cf50a665d1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f495db580901112307m2c705e23r770c70cf50a665d1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1231747206.11980.124.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 08:07 +0100, Knapp wrote:
> Anyone know how to install the drivers? At first I thought that KDE4
> was the worlds slowest desktop but then I saw it was using the NV
> driver. I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the other
> drivers. If I install Nvidia from the repos it unistalls all of X!
> Ideas? (Yes, I know it is alpha. I thought I would try and see if I
> could help.)

I use envyNG and it works a charm! :) Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From ignazio_io at yahoo.it  Mon Jan 12 09:44:49 2009
From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:44:49 +0000
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <49673E76.9010100@gmail.com>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>	<b8d784880901090133n3e1d7003h7dee568341500374@mail.gmail.com>
	<49673E76.9010100@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496B1111.7060900@yahoo.it>

O. Sinclair wrote:
> Jonas Norlander wrote:
>> 2009/1/9 O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com>:
>> I'm using unison to sync my files between 3 computers and it has
>> worked fine for my needs. It don't have the automagical you want, it's
>> just a secure (SSH) plain and simple synchronization but perhaps it
>> can be configured to your needs.
> 
> I know about unison, have also had a look at "luckybackup" and various 
> rsync facilities. Eg Smb4K has an excellent syncing facility as has 
> Krusader. Problem is they all require "user intervention" and I would 
> like this to be transparent. To me this is almost "last piece of the 
> puzzle" to get a linux-client to replace Windows w/o users or management 
> being able to say "and what about this facility/software" etc.
> 
> At the moment I am looking at csync, it seems very promising:
> http://www.csync.org/
> 
> Sinclair
> 

What about combining rsync and cron? Like checking if the remote folder 
can be reached every x minutes?

I.



From jonorland at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 10:03:20 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:03:20 +0100
Subject: Install / Boot issues
In-Reply-To: <e87f86070901090650l9e49a97n40754eb0aaf816b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e87f86070901062010t4ea01ab1mb69346c0b444f9b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901070507o7a89bd36qf9b0ee94cc97a64e@mail.gmail.com>
	<e87f86070901090650l9e49a97n40754eb0aaf816b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901120203i79ff56a7m2b2bb3bb0cd8b597@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/9 keith dewitt <keithdewitt at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Have you tried to start in recovery mode?
>
> Yes. No luck, but I may not be seeing  something I need to know there,
>
>>You can also try to remove
>> the quit and splash options from the kernel row in the Grub boot menu.
>
> Removed. But the splash screens would still come up. Maybe I did
> something wrong, but I removed those two words from the end of the
> line and checked on another reboot and they were not there. But I am
> getting past the splash screens now, just getting the blank screen
> directly after. And it stops.

When you remove them from the grub menu at boot it is not saved to the
config file so after a reboot the will be there again.

>> Both suggestions will give you more output when trying to debug the
>> cause. Also look at the log files in /var/log for clues.
>
> I looked at this site and few others to explain to my "how to view
> /var/log files":
> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-log-files-location-and-how-do-i-view-logs-files/
> When I got to ?command lines? that had "#" to type commands, said it
> was an invalid command. What I'm thinking is these files are only
> viewable once everything is loaded and you can use a ?shell?

In a shell you have some information at the start of every line that
tell you your login name, the name of the machine you are logged in
at, what directory you are at and if you are a normal user or root
then you have a space and after that is where you enter your commands.
This is mine "jonas at intrepid-amd9650:~$" I will break it up for you.

jonas: My login name.
intrepid-amd9650: Shows the name of the computer im logged in at.
~: The directory you are in. ~ is a alias for your home directory.
$: Shows that you are a normal user, root got a # character instead

So in the examples from that side the # characters only shows that the
commands is writen at a root shell and the # should not be written.

> I think I'm getting more lost. But I'm trying still. My big
> motivation, I plan to upgrade to a 64 bit system and would like to
> move over to Linux as my OS.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Keith
>

The most important log file to look at is the /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
Look at that file with this command "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" without
the quotes. Use page up and page down to move up and down in the file,
quit by pressing q. If you got any errors or warnings that line start
with (EE) or (WW).

I suspect you got some problem with your graphics driver. What
graphics card do you have?

/ Jonas



From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 10:37:23 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:37:23 +0200
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <496B1111.7060900@yahoo.it>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>	<b8d784880901090133n3e1d7003h7dee568341500374@mail.gmail.com>
	<49673E76.9010100@gmail.com> <496B1111.7060900@yahoo.it>
Message-ID: <496B1D63.3010906@gmail.com>

Ignazio Palmisano wrote:
> O. Sinclair wrote:
>> Jonas Norlander wrote:
>>> 2009/1/9 O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com>:
>>> I'm using unison to sync my files between 3 computers and it has
>>> worked fine for my needs. It don't have the automagical you want, it's
>>> just a secure (SSH) plain and simple synchronization but perhaps it
>>> can be configured to your needs.
>>
>> I know about unison, have also had a look at "luckybackup" and various 
>> rsync facilities. Eg Smb4K has an excellent syncing facility as has 
>> Krusader. Problem is they all require "user intervention" and I would 
>> like this to be transparent. To me this is almost "last piece of the 
>> puzzle" to get a linux-client to replace Windows w/o users or 
>> management being able to say "and what about this facility/software" etc.
>>
>> At the moment I am looking at csync, it seems very promising:
>> http://www.csync.org/
>>
>> Sinclair
>>
> 
> What about combining rsync and cron? Like checking if the remote folder 
> can be reached every x minutes?
> 
> I.
> 
I have been considering something like that, am trying to get my head
around rsync and all its options




From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 10:37:45 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:37:45 +0200
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <496B1111.7060900@yahoo.it>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>	<b8d784880901090133n3e1d7003h7dee568341500374@mail.gmail.com>
	<49673E76.9010100@gmail.com> <496B1111.7060900@yahoo.it>
Message-ID: <496B1D79.9010703@gmail.com>

Ignazio Palmisano wrote:
> O. Sinclair wrote:
>> Jonas Norlander wrote:
>>> 2009/1/9 O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com>:
>>> I'm using unison to sync my files between 3 computers and it has
>>> worked fine for my needs. It don't have the automagical you want, it's
>>> just a secure (SSH) plain and simple synchronization but perhaps it
>>> can be configured to your needs.
>>
>> I know about unison, have also had a look at "luckybackup" and various 
>> rsync facilities. Eg Smb4K has an excellent syncing facility as has 
>> Krusader. Problem is they all require "user intervention" and I would 
>> like this to be transparent. To me this is almost "last piece of the 
>> puzzle" to get a linux-client to replace Windows w/o users or 
>> management being able to say "and what about this facility/software" etc.
>>
>> At the moment I am looking at csync, it seems very promising:
>> http://www.csync.org/
>>
>> Sinclair
>>
> 
> What about combining rsync and cron? Like checking if the remote folder 
> can be reached every x minutes?
> 
> I.
> 
I get a problem with this part, taken from rsync man page:
"Note that rsync must be installed on both the source and destination
machines"

Given that the server is Windows 2003 Server I doubt rsync will run on it...




From ignazio_io at yahoo.it  Mon Jan 12 10:43:16 2009
From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:43:16 +0000
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <496B13EB.6010002@gmail.com>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>	<b8d784880901090133n3e1d7003h7dee568341500374@mail.gmail.com>
	<49673E76.9010100@gmail.com> <496B1111.7060900@yahoo.it>
	<496B13EB.6010002@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496B1EC4.60207@yahoo.it>

O. Sinclair wrote:
> Ignazio Palmisano wrote:
>> O. Sinclair wrote:
>>> Jonas Norlander wrote:
>>>> 2009/1/9 O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com>:
>>>> I'm using unison to sync my files between 3 computers and it has
>>>> worked fine for my needs. It don't have the automagical you want, it's
>>>> just a secure (SSH) plain and simple synchronization but perhaps it
>>>> can be configured to your needs.
>>>
>>> I know about unison, have also had a look at "luckybackup" and 
>>> various rsync facilities. Eg Smb4K has an excellent syncing facility 
>>> as has Krusader. Problem is they all require "user intervention" and 
>>> I would like this to be transparent. To me this is almost "last piece 
>>> of the puzzle" to get a linux-client to replace Windows w/o users or 
>>> management being able to say "and what about this facility/software" 
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> At the moment I am looking at csync, it seems very promising:
>>> http://www.csync.org/
>>>
>>> Sinclair
>>>
>>
>> What about combining rsync and cron? Like checking if the remote 
>> folder can be reached every x minutes?
>>
>> I.
>>
> I get a problem with this part, taken from rsync man page:
> "Note that rsync must be installed on both the source and destination 
> machines"
> 
> Given that the server is Windows 2003 Server I doubt rsync will run on 
> it...
> 

Mmm fair point... I wonder if you can mount a samba share with a cron 
job, then the origin and destination machines would be the same, with 
the windows bit only saving the files...
I.



From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 11:03:47 2009
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:03:47 +1000
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <496B1D79.9010703@gmail.com>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com> <496B1111.7060900@yahoo.it>
	<496B1D79.9010703@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901122103.52424.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:37:45 pm O. Sinclair wrote:
> I get a problem with this part, taken from rsync man page:
> "Note that rsync must be installed on both the source and destination
> machines"

I thinks that's only if you're trying to talk to a rsync server or via ssh. If 
the 2003 server exposes a windows share and the linux pc has it mounted you 
should be able to do the following:

  rsync -a /home/mydir   /media/server2003/itsdir

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From magick.crow at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 11:42:12 2009
From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:42:12 +0100
Subject: 9.04 Nvidia help needed
In-Reply-To: <1231747206.11980.124.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <f495db580901112307m2c705e23r770c70cf50a665d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<1231747206.11980.124.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <f495db580901120342v2dc4ac89va8624af93a0a63bb@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 08:07 +0100, Knapp wrote:
> > Anyone know how to install the drivers? At first I thought that KDE4
> > was the worlds slowest desktop but then I saw it was using the NV
> > driver. I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the other
> > drivers. If I install Nvidia from the repos it unistalls all of X!
> > Ideas? (Yes, I know it is alpha. I thought I would try and see if I
> > could help.)
>
> I use envyNG and it works a charm! :) Ric
>

envyNG does it job but has the same results as my first way. It takes out
the xorg program and nothing works. Only fix is to reinstall the nv drivers
and everything else, best way is with install kubuntu-KDE4-desktop.


-- 
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From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 11:55:56 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:55:56 +0200
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <200901122103.52424.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com> <496B1111.7060900@yahoo.it>
	<496B1D79.9010703@gmail.com>
	<200901122103.52424.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496B2FCC.30904@gmail.com>

Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:37:45 pm O. Sinclair wrote:
>  > I get a problem with this part, taken from rsync man page:
>  > "Note that rsync must be installed on both the source and destination
>  > machines"
> 
> 
> I thinks that's only if you're trying to talk to a rsync server or via 
> ssh. If the 2003 server exposes a windows share and the linux pc has it 
> mounted you should be able to do the following:
> 
> 
> rsync -a /home/mydir /media/server2003/itsdir
> 
You are right, I am working on it. "Only" problem now is that I normally
do not automount the samba/win shares but rather use smb4K for the users
to connect -  they just get headaches while travelling otherwise, error
messages from failed mounts




From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 12:03:15 2009
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:03:15 +1000
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <496B1D79.9010703@gmail.com>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com> <496B1111.7060900@yahoo.it>
	<496B1D79.9010703@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901122203.18381.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:37:45 pm O. Sinclair wrote:
> Given that the server is Windows 2003 Server I doubt rsync will run on
> it...

Also rsync servers can be installed on windows, usually via cygwin. Here's a 
blog entrie that details 3 different ways to do it:

 http://tinyurl.com/5jk5x6

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From derek at pointerstop.ca  Mon Jan 12 13:59:22 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:59:22 -0400
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901090133n3e1d7003h7dee568341500374@mail.gmail.com>
	<49673E76.9010100@gmail.com> <496B1111.7060900@yahoo.it>
	<496B1D63.3010906@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <quur36-u0k.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

O. Sinclair wrote:

> Ignazio Palmisano wrote:
>> 
>> What about combining rsync and cron? Like checking if the remote folder
>> can be reached every x minutes?
>> 
> I have been considering something like that, am trying to get my head
> around rsync and all its options

Why reinvent the wheel? Unison works on Windows, _is_ rsync based, and 
handles bidirectional changes.




From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 14:15:54 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:15:54 +0200
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <quur36-u0k.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>	<b8d784880901090133n3e1d7003h7dee568341500374@mail.gmail.com>	<49673E76.9010100@gmail.com>
	<496B1111.7060900@yahoo.it>	<496B1D63.3010906@gmail.com>
	<quur36-u0k.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <496B509A.108@gmail.com>

Derek Broughton wrote:
> O. Sinclair wrote:
> 
>> Ignazio Palmisano wrote:
>>> What about combining rsync and cron? Like checking if the remote folder
>>> can be reached every x minutes?
>>>
>> I have been considering something like that, am trying to get my head
>> around rsync and all its options
> 
> Why reinvent the wheel? Unison works on Windows, _is_ rsync based, and 
> handles bidirectional changes.
> 
> 
Am busy testing that too at the moment but thanks for the pointer.
I get problems with subdirectories on both rsync and unison at this 
time, they sometimes refuse to create subdirs and all files in them on 
the target



From keithdewitt at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 14:44:48 2009
From: keithdewitt at gmail.com (keith dewitt)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:44:48 +0000
Subject: Install / Boot issues
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901120203i79ff56a7m2b2bb3bb0cd8b597@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e87f86070901062010t4ea01ab1mb69346c0b444f9b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901070507o7a89bd36qf9b0ee94cc97a64e@mail.gmail.com>
	<e87f86070901090650l9e49a97n40754eb0aaf816b@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901120203i79ff56a7m2b2bb3bb0cd8b597@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e87f86070901120644x75758ff7v76f77aa8255ab6e3@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Jonas Norlander <jonorland at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/1/9 keith dewitt <keithdewitt at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Have you tried to start in recovery mode?
>>
>> Yes. No luck, but I may not be seeing  something I need to know there,
>>
>>>You can also try to remove
>>> the quit and splash options from the kernel row in the Grub boot menu.
>>
>> Removed. But the splash screens would still come up. Maybe I did
>> something wrong, but I removed those two words from the end of the
>> line and checked on another reboot and they were not there. But I am
>> getting past the splash screens now, just getting the blank screen
>> directly after. And it stops.
>
> When you remove them from the grub menu at boot it is not saved to the
> config file so after a reboot the will be there again.

I continued with the boot process and still got the splash. Maybe
something I did wrong. Was able to get passed the splash screens
though, eventually.
>
>>> Both suggestions will give you more output when trying to debug the
>>> cause. Also look at the log files in /var/log for clues.
>>
>> I looked at this site and few others to explain to my "how to view
>> /var/log files":
>> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-log-files-location-and-how-do-i-view-logs-files/
>> When I got to ?command lines? that had "#" to type commands, said it
>> was an invalid command. What I'm thinking is these files are only
>> viewable once everything is loaded and you can use a ?shell?
>
> In a shell you have some information at the start of every line that
> tell you your login name, the name of the machine you are logged in
> at, what directory you are at and if you are a normal user or root
> then you have a space and after that is where you enter your commands.

That's the place I never got to. The shell. I looked for info on where
to find a shell buring the boot process or during boot process in
recovery mode.

> This is mine "jonas at intrepid-amd9650:~$" I will break it up for you.
>
> jonas: My login name.
> intrepid-amd9650: Shows the name of the computer im logged in at.
> ~: The directory you are in. ~ is a alias for your home directory.
> $: Shows that you are a normal user, root got a # character instead
>
I remember being in places at different times showing both "#" and "$"
but couldn't get the correct commands working. However, I never got to
the place of the install to provide a username and pass.

> So in the examples from that side the # characters only shows that the
> commands is writen at a root shell and the # should not be written.
>
>> I think I'm getting more lost. But I'm trying still. My big
>> motivation, I plan to upgrade to a 64 bit system and would like to
>> move over to Linux as my OS.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Keith
>>
>
> The most important log file to look at is the /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
> Look at that file with this command "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" without
> the quotes. Use page up and page down to move up and down in the file,
> quit by pressing q. If you got any errors or warnings that line start
> with (EE) or (WW).
>
> I suspect you got some problem with your graphics driver. What
> graphics card do you have?
>
Matrox Millenium g200 agp
Thanks for your help. I have my new hardware installed and am working
with the current version of Unbuntu. I haven't installed it yet, just
checking everything out for hardware issues. So far its going really
well.  However, I plan to try and salvage my old hardware to have a
second computer to work on. I will save this thread and get back with
you if I have any more issues trying to get the other machine up and
running with Ubuntu. I'd really like to see that happen.

Thanks,
Keith

> / Jonas
>
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From nigel at prayingforisrael.net  Mon Jan 12 14:48:47 2009
From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:48:47 +0200
Subject: Forgot username password
Message-ID: <496B584F.5070700@prayingforisrael.net>

I just bought a new Dell laptop with Ubuntu (I intend immediately to install kubuntu-desktop) and 
can't get into it :-( They didn't supply the username password and i have contacted my local Dell 
service center - but until they get back to me I figured that you guys could help me get into my 
new laptop.

How can I set a new [admin] username password?

Blessings,

Nigel



From nigel at prayingforisrael.net  Mon Jan 12 15:09:22 2009
From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:09:22 +0200
Subject: Forgot username password - Solved!
In-Reply-To: <496B584F.5070700@prayingforisrael.net>
References: <496B584F.5070700@prayingforisrael.net>
Message-ID: <496B5D22.9030701@prayingforisrael.net>

Nigel Ridley wrote:
> I just bought a new Dell laptop with Ubuntu (I intend immediately to install kubuntu-desktop) and 
> can't get into it :-( They didn't supply the username password and i have contacted my local Dell 
> service center - but until they get back to me I figured that you guys could help me get into my 
> new laptop.
> 
> How can I set a new [admin] username password?
> 
> Blessings,
> 
> Nigel
> 
Replying to self here:
  Found the answer here:
http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword

Blessings,

Nigel




From charioteer7 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 15:19:53 2009
From: charioteer7 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Bays)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:19:53 -0500
Subject: Forgot username password - Solved!
In-Reply-To: <496B5D22.9030701@prayingforisrael.net>
References: <496B584F.5070700@prayingforisrael.net>
	<496B5D22.9030701@prayingforisrael.net>
Message-ID: <646a014e0901120719j14f2d12m94c60358f4b22376@mail.gmail.com>

Nigel:

thanks for replying to yourself, because the psychocats.net site has
got really easy to follow suggestions
for those of us who are not *buntu adepts. Excellent link!

Cheers,

Geoffrey Bays

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Nigel Ridley
<nigel at prayingforisrael.net> wrote:
> Nigel Ridley wrote:
>> I just bought a new Dell laptop with Ubuntu (I intend immediately to install kubuntu-desktop) and
>> can't get into it :-( They didn't supply the username password and i have contacted my local Dell
>> service center - but until they get back to me I figured that you guys could help me get into my
>> new laptop.
>>
>> How can I set a new [admin] username password?
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Nigel
>>
> Replying to self here:
>  Found the answer here:
> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
>
> Blessings,
>
> Nigel
>
>
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From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk  Mon Jan 12 16:49:29 2009
From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:49:29 +0000
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901100218o4c4ee6e7p9d8487f91f842e11@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b8d784880901100218o4c4ee6e7p9d8487f91f842e11@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090112164929.69a652c3.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:18:20 +0100
"Jonas Norlander" <jonorland at gmail.com> wrote:

JN> Todays update of openoffice.org 3 from PPA don't fix the bug in the
JN> openoffice.ork-kde package. I still got an error when starting and
JN> then it shuts down.

No help to those affected but possibly useful to anyone investigating
the problem -- I notice that the Hardy versions (both 3.0 and 3.0.1) do
NOT have the problem. This would suggect to me that it's specifically a
KDE 4 (or QT4) issue.

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+------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+
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| sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham      | --  \/` |
| Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722                  |         |
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From dotancohen at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 16:50:54 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:50:54 +0200
Subject: Forgot username password
In-Reply-To: <496B584F.5070700@prayingforisrael.net>
References: <496B584F.5070700@prayingforisrael.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901120850s21771ea6h92712599851f8e8@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/12 Nigel Ridley <nigel at prayingforisrael.net>:
> I just bought a new Dell laptop with Ubuntu (I intend immediately to install kubuntu-desktop) and
> can't get into it :-( They didn't supply the username password and i have contacted my local Dell
> service center - but until they get back to me I figured that you guys could help me get into my
> new laptop.
>
> How can I set a new [admin] username password?
>
> Blessings,
>
> Nigel
>

Boot into single user mode and reset the root password.


-- 
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From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com  Mon Jan 12 16:52:15 2009
From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham Todd)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:52:15 +0000
Subject: How do I remove Newsmax from my emails?
In-Reply-To: <200901101631.46320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901101631.46320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <20090112165215.7edb91f1@graham-desktop>

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:31:45 -0500
Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Again, I am a little dense on understanding the filter function of my
> email service, Kmail.  Is it possible to have Kmail just delete them
> as they arrive.  If so, how do I set up that option?
[snipped]

Well, it all depends on what kind of mail you receive (pop3 or imap).

If you receive pop3 mail then you might like to check out mailfilter.
This tiny program kills mail on the server according to regex filter
rules you set up in a .mailfilterrc file (don't worry there are helpful
instructions on the main website and in the suggested files.

KMail has the facility to preprocess commands before the main program
is run, so if you call mailfilter before kmail you will kill mail you
do not want BEFORE downloading your mail.

Its website is http://mailfilter.sourceforge.net

-- 
Graham Todd



From magick.crow at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 16:57:01 2009
From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:57:01 +0100
Subject: 9.04 Nvidia help needed
In-Reply-To: <496AF00A.3000804@web.de>
References: <f495db580901112307m2c705e23r770c70cf50a665d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<496AF00A.3000804@web.de>
Message-ID: <f495db580901120857q411d100cre5d47061441c77d6@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Octavian Florea <miron.florea at web.de>wrote:

> You must look in the ppa archives for nvidia-180-kernel-source,
> nvidia-180-modaliases, nvidia-glx-180.
> Then you need to modify xorg.conf, adding the following lines:
>
> Section "ServerFlags"
> Option "IgnoreABI" "True"
> EndSection


Tried your ideas too but still it takes out xorg and will not run. Perhaps,
I just have to wait a few more weeks and try again.



-- 
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From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Mon Jan 12 17:10:40 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:10:40 -0500
Subject: Install / Boot issues
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901120203i79ff56a7m2b2bb3bb0cd8b597@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e87f86070901062010t4ea01ab1mb69346c0b444f9b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<e87f86070901090650l9e49a97n40754eb0aaf816b@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901120203i79ff56a7m2b2bb3bb0cd8b597@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901121210.40586.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Monday 12 January 2009, Jonas Norlander wrote:
> > Removed. But the splash screens would still come up. Maybe I did
> > something wrong, but I removed those two words from the end of the
> > line and checked on another reboot and they were not there. But I am
> > getting past the splash screens now, just getting the blank screen
> > directly after. And it stops.

After removing the quiet and splash options from the end of the kernel line, 
try adding:

vga=normal

Might help.



From miron.florea at web.de  Mon Jan 12 17:11:45 2009
From: miron.florea at web.de (Octavian Florea)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:11:45 +0200
Subject: 9.04 Nvidia help needed
In-Reply-To: <f495db580901120857q411d100cre5d47061441c77d6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f495db580901112307m2c705e23r770c70cf50a665d1@mail.gmail.com>	<496AF00A.3000804@web.de>
	<f495db580901120857q411d100cre5d47061441c77d6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496B79D1.1030603@web.de>

On 01/12/2009 06:57 PM, Knapp wrote:
>
> Tried your ideas too but still it takes out xorg and will not run. 
> Perhaps, I just have to wait a few more weeks and try again.
This is very strange, as I have been running jaunty with nvidia-glx-180 
for two weeks now.
It is true that the ppa packages I used then to install the nvidia 
drivers are no longer available.
However, nvidia launched the 180.22 version of the drivers, which are 
currently building on launchpad, so maybe those will work for you.



From jonorland at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 17:14:23 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:14:23 +0100
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <496B509A.108@gmail.com>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901090133n3e1d7003h7dee568341500374@mail.gmail.com>
	<49673E76.9010100@gmail.com> <496B1111.7060900@yahoo.it>
	<496B1D63.3010906@gmail.com> <quur36-u0k.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<496B509A.108@gmail.com>
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2009/1/12 O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com>:
> Derek Broughton wrote:
>> O. Sinclair wrote:
>>
>>> Ignazio Palmisano wrote:
>>>> What about combining rsync and cron? Like checking if the remote folder
>>>> can be reached every x minutes?
>>>>
>>> I have been considering something like that, am trying to get my head
>>> around rsync and all its options
>>
>> Why reinvent the wheel? Unison works on Windows, _is_ rsync based, and
>> handles bidirectional changes.
>>
>>
> Am busy testing that too at the moment but thanks for the pointer.
> I get problems with subdirectories on both rsync and unison at this
> time, they sometimes refuse to create subdirs and all files in them on
> the target
>

I use unison on three computers to sync my foto archive, one is my
server where push all updates to from the other computers. It has
worked like a charmed for over a year and i have never seen the
problems you describe. My machines are all runningl Linux so perhaps
its a problem with Windows?

/ Jonas



From gkourtev at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 17:17:32 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:17:32 +0200
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
In-Reply-To: <20090112164929.69a652c3.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
References: <b8d784880901100218o4c4ee6e7p9d8487f91f842e11@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090112164929.69a652c3.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <200901121917.33297.gkourtev@gmail.com>

Indeed, as when I did remove openoffice.org-kde the OOo 3.0.1 works fine with 
rather ugly appearance. As soon as I install it back into the system, the 
problem restores.
gk


On Monday 12 January 2009 18:49:29 James Tappin wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:18:20 +0100
> "Jonas Norlander" <jonorland at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> JN> Todays update of openoffice.org 3 from PPA don't fix the bug in the
> JN> openoffice.ork-kde package. I still got an error when starting and
> JN> then it shuts down.
>
> No help to those affected but possibly useful to anyone investigating
> the problem -- I notice that the Hardy versions (both 3.0 and 3.0.1) do
> NOT have the problem. This would suggect to me that it's specifically a
> KDE 4 (or QT4) issue.
>
> --
> +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+
>
> | James Tappin           | School of Physics & Astronomy |  O__    |
> | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham      | --  \/` |
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From ender8282 at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 12 18:52:05 2009
From: ender8282 at yahoo.com (John Hubbard)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:52:05 -0700
Subject: [Bulk] WiFi-printers  Error: ''no DHCPOFFERS received''
In-Reply-To: <200901101925.29461.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com>
References: <200901101925.29461.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <496B9155.3070007@yahoo.com>

Ulrich Grün wrote:
>
> Namastè,
>
> I've connected my HP C6380 via the Linksys WUSB54gr wireless card (at 
> least, that is what I try).
>
> The configuration program RutilT finds my printer, as soon as the 
> printer is on. My laptop then sends ''DHCPDISCOVER on WLAN0 to 
> 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15''.
>
> After some attempts, I receive the message: ''no DHCPOFFERS 
> received'', and RutilT shows my printer as disconnected again.
>
> Does anybody know (or has a clue) what might be going on? The HP 
> software on my linuxbox (Debian 4.0) is well installed.
>
It sounds like you don't have a DHCP Server anywhere on the wireless 
network.  If you only have your laptop (with wireless) and a printer 
attached to a WUSB45gr are going to have problems.  You will either need 
to set up your laptop to be wireless router/DHCP server or invest in a 
wireless router.  Hope this helps. 

-- 
-john

To be or not to be, that is the question
                2b || !2b
(0b10)*(0b1100010) || !(0b10)*(0b1100010)
        0b11000100 || !0b11000100
        0b11000100 || 0b00111011
               0b11111111
        255, that is the answer.





From magick.crow at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 19:33:12 2009
From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:33:12 +0100
Subject: 9.04 Nvidia help needed
In-Reply-To: <496B79D1.1030603@web.de>
References: <f495db580901112307m2c705e23r770c70cf50a665d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<496AF00A.3000804@web.de>
	<f495db580901120857q411d100cre5d47061441c77d6@mail.gmail.com>
	<496B79D1.1030603@web.de>
Message-ID: <f495db580901121133o3de53793x6e2c4e06ae25f80f@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Octavian Florea <miron.florea at web.de>wrote:

> On 01/12/2009 06:57 PM, Knapp wrote:
> >
> > Tried your ideas too but still it takes out xorg and will not run.
> > Perhaps, I just have to wait a few more weeks and try again.
> This is very strange, as I have been running jaunty with nvidia-glx-180
> for two weeks now.
> It is true that the ppa packages I used then to install the nvidia
> drivers are no longer available.
> However, nvidia launched the 180.22 version of the drivers, which are
> currently building on launchpad, so maybe those will work for you.
>

I will report back, but what is going on is really something stranger than
that. I think it might be a problem with the dependencies in apt-get. Every
time I install nvidia from the repo apt-get removes all the other vid driver
and it removes xorg too!

I could post a transcript of it all. Maybe that would help pinpoint the
problem but then it might be easier to just wait a bit. I am not up on the
alpha side of things, and what they might need or what from me.


-- 
Douglas E Knapp

Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!!
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From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 19:38:34 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:38:34 +0200
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901120914r1fac4697mc73d3a1fda18328@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>	
	<b8d784880901090133n3e1d7003h7dee568341500374@mail.gmail.com>	
	<49673E76.9010100@gmail.com> <496B1111.7060900@yahoo.it>	
	<496B1D63.3010906@gmail.com> <quur36-u0k.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	
	<496B509A.108@gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901120914r1fac4697mc73d3a1fda18328@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496B9C3A.8010107@gmail.com>

Jonas Norlander wrote:
> 2009/1/12 O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com>:
>> Derek Broughton wrote:
>>> O. Sinclair wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ignazio Palmisano wrote:
>>>>> What about combining rsync and cron? Like checking if the remote folder
>>>>> can be reached every x minutes?
>>>>>
>>>> I have been considering something like that, am trying to get my head
>>>> around rsync and all its options
>>> Why reinvent the wheel? Unison works on Windows, _is_ rsync based, and
>>> handles bidirectional changes.
>>>
>>>
>> Am busy testing that too at the moment but thanks for the pointer.
>> I get problems with subdirectories on both rsync and unison at this
>> time, they sometimes refuse to create subdirs and all files in them on
>> the target
>>
> 
> I use unison on three computers to sync my foto archive, one is my
> server where push all updates to from the other computers. It has
> worked like a charmed for over a year and i have never seen the
> problems you describe. My machines are all runningl Linux so perhaps
> its a problem with Windows?
> 
> / Jonas
> 
The weird thing is that where I get this problem the server is actually
samba-based, Ebox... on the "pure" windows servers I think I can get it
working.
Next problem - where do I place a script to get it to run on
logout/shutdown, not login/boot?




From miron.florea at web.de  Mon Jan 12 20:06:38 2009
From: miron.florea at web.de (Octavian Florea)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:06:38 +0200
Subject: 9.04 Nvidia help needed
In-Reply-To: <f495db580901121133o3de53793x6e2c4e06ae25f80f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f495db580901112307m2c705e23r770c70cf50a665d1@mail.gmail.com>	<496AF00A.3000804@web.de>	<f495db580901120857q411d100cre5d47061441c77d6@mail.gmail.com>	<496B79D1.1030603@web.de>
	<f495db580901121133o3de53793x6e2c4e06ae25f80f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496BA2CE.8040303@web.de>

On 01/12/2009 09:33 PM, Knapp wrote:
> I will report back, but what is going on is really something stranger 
> than that. I think it might be a problem with the dependencies in 
> apt-get. Every time I install nvidia from the repo apt-get removes all 
> the other vid driver and it removes xorg too!
Indeed, installing nvidia-glx from the jaunty official repos removes 
xorg. However, nvidia-glx-180 from the ppa ( 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas ) don't (or at least they did not for 
me).




From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Mon Jan 12 20:11:28 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:11:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
In-Reply-To: <20090112164929.69a652c3.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <593661371.1425091231791088742.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

If so, then perhaps kde 4.2 packages will resolve the issue. (RC is due out tomorrow; has anyone tested on the beta?...I don't currently have access to my testbed virtual machine.) 
Paul 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Tappin" <sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk> 
To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:49:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken 

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:18:20 +0100 
"Jonas Norlander" <jonorland at gmail.com> wrote: 

JN> Todays update of openoffice.org 3 from PPA don't fix the bug in the 
JN> openoffice.ork-kde package. I still got an error when starting and 
JN> then it shuts down. 

No help to those affected but possibly useful to anyone investigating 
the problem -- I notice that the Hardy versions (both 3.0 and 3.0.1) do 
NOT have the problem. This would suggect to me that it's specifically a 
KDE 4 (or QT4) issue. 

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From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com  Mon Jan 12 20:11:58 2009
From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:11:58 +0000
Subject: C6380 wi-fi connection
In-Reply-To: <mailman.22139.1231788794.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.22139.1231788794.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <496BA40E.7090608@btinternet.com>

Ulrich Gr?n wrote:

> >
> > Namast?,
> >
> > I've connected my HP C6380 via the Linksys WUSB54gr wireless card (at 
> > least, that is what I try).
> >
> > The configuration program RutilT finds my printer, as soon as the 
> > printer is on. My laptop then sends ''DHCPDISCOVER on WLAN0 to 
> > 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15''.
> >
> > After some attempts, I receive the message: ''no DHCPOFFERS 
> > received'', and RutilT shows my printer as disconnected again.
> >
> > Does anybody know (or has a clue) what might be going on? The HP 
> > software on my linuxbox (Debian 4.0) is well installed.
> >
>   
It sounds like you don't have a DHCP Server anywhere on the wireless 
network.  If you only have your laptop (with wireless) and a printer 
attached to a WUSB45gr are going to have problems.  You will either need 
to set up your laptop to be wireless router/DHCP server or invest in a 
wireless router.  Hope this helps. 


You could also go here <http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/manualCategory?cc=uk&dlc=en&product=3560280&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_UKEN> download the PDF 'Basic Guide' and read the relevant
entry under network setup, there's one for 'router-less' wi-fi connection
to a laptop from this printer.
hope this helps too
brian





From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk  Mon Jan 12 20:17:41 2009
From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:17:41 +0000
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
In-Reply-To: <593661371.1425091231791088742.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <20090112164929.69a652c3.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
	<593661371.1425091231791088742.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20090112201741.6b43d7db.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:11:28 +0000 (UTC)
pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote:

PN> If so, then perhaps kde 4.2 packages will resolve the issue. (RC is
PN> due out tomorrow; has anyone tested on the beta?...I don't currently
PN> have access to my testbed virtual machine.) 

Yes I have, at least with the 3.0 packages. The 3.0.1 I've not actually
tried on my Intrepid box when running KDE (only XFCE). However I've not
had any success there either. [i.e. as far as I can tell the kde
integration works with KDE3 and fails with all known KDE4 versions].


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| Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722                  |         |
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From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com  Mon Jan 12 20:31:10 2009
From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham Todd)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:31:10 +0000
Subject: Can't Install Kubuntu 8.10 Properly - HELP!!
In-Reply-To: <49667380.4060903@gmail.com>
References: <20090108153026.484f4bda@graham-desktop>
	<49667380.4060903@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090112203110.7c78ce48@graham-desktop>

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:43:28 -0700
"D. R. Evans" <doc.evans at gmail.com> wrote:

> So it sounds like what you are saying is that the install goes OK,
> but then when you try to boot, you can't see anything.

Precisely

> What happens if you go to the console? Can you log in that way?

I haven't tried a console log in from the live disk, because I assumed
that would produce a console log in if I installed it that way.
However, I will try and let you know.
 
> And if you can log in, then I suggest you try the following:
> 
>   1. go to ~/.kde/share/config
>   2. in kwinrc, set Enabled=false in the [Compositing] section.
>   3. Reboot

I'll try that IF I can log in :-)  And then I'll let you know!

> If you can't log in, what messages (if any) are on the console?
> 
>   Doc

Thanks to Doc and all others on the list who offered advice.  I'm sorry
not to have reported back earlier but I had to take a short holiday in
my local hospital.....

Nothing so far suggested works, but I haven't tried Doc's suggestion
yet and I'll report back when I have.
-- 
Graham Todd



From doc.evans at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 21:06:47 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:06:47 -0700
Subject: Can't Install Kubuntu 8.10 Properly - HELP!!
In-Reply-To: <20090112203110.7c78ce48@graham-desktop>
References: <20090108153026.484f4bda@graham-desktop>	<49667380.4060903@gmail.com>
	<20090112203110.7c78ce48@graham-desktop>
Message-ID: <496BB0E7.1020304@gmail.com>

Graham Todd said the following at 01/12/2009 01:31 PM :
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:43:28 -0700
> "D. R. Evans" <doc.evans at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> So it sounds like what you are saying is that the install goes OK,
>> but then when you try to boot, you can't see anything.
> 
> Precisely
> 
>> What happens if you go to the console? Can you log in that way?
> 
> I haven't tried a console log in from the live disk, because I assumed
> that would produce a console log in if I installed it that way.
> However, I will try and let you know.

I don't understand what you mean when you talk about using the live disk to
log in. What I was trying to suggest is: when you try to boot (following
the install), when you get to the point where you expect to see the login
screen but can't, try logging in on the console at that point.

  Doc

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From basroufs at gmail.com  Mon Jan 12 22:17:06 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:17:06 +0100
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
Message-ID: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Everybody

Tonight, I downloaded a fresh Kubuntu 8.10 i.386 ISO image - with a
view to burning it on a CD for installation on a laptop. After
downloading the image file, I opened it with K3B - running on a
desktop PC with Kubuntu 8.10. I carried out the MD5SUM check via K3B
and this page:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
The MD5SUM check went perfectly well. Than, I put an empty CD in the
tray and started the burning process. I simply chose for standard
options:
* automatic speed, etc. K3B chose 16 speed for the process.
* for the 'writing mode' I chose 'auto', instead of 'DAO', 'TAO' or 'RAW'.
* I also chose the option 'verify written data'.
After the end of the burning process, everything seemed OK.
So, I put the CD in the CD/ DVD combodrive of the laptop and I tried
to start the install process. After about 10 minutes the installation
process ended up in a big mess. So, I restarted the CD and carried out
the 'integrity check': there were mistakes in 33 files. So, something
must have gone wrong in the burning process.

Can you give me some advise on how to minimise the risk of mistakes in
the CD burning process? Should I change one or more of the options/
steps mentioned above? Should I add or leave something? In other
words: how can I get an i.386 ISO desktop CD without errors?

Thanks for replying.

Respectfully Yours,

Bas Roufs.

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From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Mon Jan 12 23:03:44 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:03:44 -0500
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496BCC50.8090602@gatech.edu>

Bas Roufs wrote:
> After the end of the burning process, everything seemed OK.
> So, I put the CD in the CD/ DVD combodrive of the laptop and I tried
> to start the install process. After about 10 minutes the installation
> process ended up in a big mess.

Can you clarify?

> Can you give me some advise on how to minimise the risk of mistakes in
> the CD burning process? Should I change one or more of the options/
> steps mentioned above?

You can try decreasing the speed to 8x.  Higher speeds have higher error
rates.

Matt Flaschen




From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan 12 23:11:22 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:11:22 -0500
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901121811.22351.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 12 January 2009, Bas Roufs wrote:
>Dear Everybody
>
>Tonight, I downloaded a fresh Kubuntu 8.10 i.386 ISO image - with a
>view to burning it on a CD for installation on a laptop. After
>downloading the image file, I opened it with K3B - running on a
>desktop PC with Kubuntu 8.10. I carried out the MD5SUM check via K3B
>and this page:
>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
>The MD5SUM check went perfectly well. Than, I put an empty CD in the
>tray and started the burning process. I simply chose for standard
>options:
>* automatic speed, etc. K3B chose 16 speed for the process.
>* for the 'writing mode' I chose 'auto', instead of 'DAO', 'TAO' or 'RAW'.
>* I also chose the option 'verify written data'.

That has not worked in 2 or 3 years for the majority of the users.  Do your 
own verifying by looking at the filesize of the iso you have burnt and 
dividing that by 2048, the std block size for optical media.  Then use that 
number in a statement somewhat like this:

dd if=/media/cdrom(or whatever it is) bs=2048 count=the number you got from 
the division and use a pipe or whatever to feed it to md5sum.  If the burn is 
good, it will match the md5sum of the source iso file.

>After the end of the burning process, everything seemed OK.
>So, I put the CD in the CD/ DVD combodrive of the laptop and I tried
>to start the install process. After about 10 minutes the installation
>process ended up in a big mess. So, I restarted the CD and carried out
>the 'integrity check': there were mistakes in 33 files. So, something
>must have gone wrong in the burning process.

Sounds like, toss it and do the next burn at the minimum speed the drive can 
do, in DAO mode.  Some drives are pretty optimistic about their working write 
speed.

>Can you give me some advise on how to minimise the risk of mistakes in
>the CD burning process? Should I change one or more of the options/
>steps mentioned above? Should I add or leave something? In other
>words: how can I get an i.386 ISO desktop CD without errors?

See above, it is several steps in the right direction.  If it still fails, try 
cleaning the laser and lens with one of those cleaning disks, replace the 
drive cable etc.  If that fails, bin the drive.

>Thanks for replying.
>
>Respectfully Yours,
>
>Bas Roufs.
>
>--
>===============
>Viaconsensus
>Bas G. Roufs M.A.
>Van 't Hoffstraat 1
>NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
>M. +31.6.446.835.10
>T. +31.30.785.20.40
>BasRoufs at gmail.com
>===============



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Windows is the only solitaire game that requires 16 MB of RAM.



From jonorland at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 09:40:32 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:40:32 +0100
Subject: Todays Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA kind of fixed
Message-ID: <b8d784880901130140m2165c3bu703d6a4d5409de@mail.gmail.com>

Today's updates to Openoffice.org 3 from PPA fixes the error/crash
with the openoffice.org-kde package but introduces two other bugs for
me (perhaps they been there before).

* I have to use the " Use OpenOffice.org dialogs" options or it want
show any dialogs when I pressing save or open.
* When i close OpenOffice it will often crash in the background
preventing me from start it again, not always but sometimes it takes
100% CPU to.

/ Jonas



From mickrulist at voipfuture.com  Tue Jan 13 09:50:58 2009
From: mickrulist at voipfuture.com (Michael Krueger)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:50:58 +0100
Subject: How to tell apt not to update OpenOffice - Keep a specific version
	of an application?
Message-ID: <496C6402.70200@voipfuture.com>

Hi,

can anyone tell me how to tell apt to irgnore updates for a specific
application?
I use Kubuntu 8.10 and would like to keep the OpenOffice 3.0.0. version
and not upgrade. Currently the pending OpenOffice update is showing in
the update notifier... and I would like to not show it, so that I can
apply other updates.

Any help is appreciated.

Regards,
Michael



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Tue Jan 13 10:21:57 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:21:57 +0100
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <200901121811.22351.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901121811.22351.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <gkhq06$n13$1@ger.gmane.org>

Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
> See above, it is several steps in the right direction.  If it still fails, try 
> cleaning the laser and lens with one of those cleaning disks, replace the 
> drive cable etc.  If that fails, bin the drive.
> 
Hi,

before you bin the drive, you might take a look at your phsical burner 
setup.
If your burner is SATA, just forget about it.
I
f it is IDE, you might try to connect it as a master to his very own IDE 
channel.

Doing it like this you will provide a unique IRQ and dma channel to your 
burner.

Just worth a try.

Kind regards
Eberhard




From gkourtev at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 10:45:08 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:45:08 +0200
Subject: Todays Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA kind of fixed
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901130140m2165c3bu703d6a4d5409de@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b8d784880901130140m2165c3bu703d6a4d5409de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901131245.08650.gkourtev@gmail.com>

I face the same bugs after the today fixes.

The other two problems were not there before.
gk


On Tuesday 13 January 2009 11:40:32 Jonas Norlander wrote:
> Today's updates to Openoffice.org 3 from PPA fixes the error/crash
> with the openoffice.org-kde package but introduces two other bugs for
> me (perhaps they been there before).
>
> * I have to use the " Use OpenOffice.org dialogs" options or it want
> show any dialogs when I pressing save or open.
> * When i close OpenOffice it will often crash in the background
> preventing me from start it again, not always but sometimes it takes
> 100% CPU to.
>
> / Jonas


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From aeclist at candt.waitrose.com  Tue Jan 13 10:45:42 2009
From: aeclist at candt.waitrose.com (alan c)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:45:42 +0000
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496C70D6.8090800@candt.waitrose.com>

Bas Roufs wrote:
> Dear Everybody
> 
> Tonight, I downloaded a fresh Kubuntu 8.10 i.386 ISO image - with a
> view to burning it on a CD for installation on a laptop. After
> downloading the image file, I opened it with K3B - running on a
> desktop PC with Kubuntu 8.10. I carried out the MD5SUM check via K3B
> and this page:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
> The MD5SUM check went perfectly well. Than, I put an empty CD in the
> tray and started the burning process. I simply chose for standard
> options:
> * automatic speed, etc. K3B chose 16 speed for the process.
> * for the 'writing mode' I chose 'auto', instead of 'DAO', 'TAO' or 'RAW'.
> * I also chose the option 'verify written data'.

k3b 'verify' has not worked recently, not sure about kubuntu 8.10 
though. I use an independent md5sum activity now.

> After the end of the burning process, everything seemed OK.
> So, I put the CD in the CD/ DVD combodrive of the laptop and I tried
> to start the install process. After about 10 minutes the installation
> process ended up in a big mess. So, I restarted the CD and carried out
> the 'integrity check': there were mistakes in 33 files. So, something
> must have gone wrong in the burning process.

I would expect an md5sum type of check would give a similar result to 
a cd self verify check. However, in one machine I was amazed that I 
got very inconsistent results. I did many tests and concluded that the 
machine which had been donated to me, had a fairly small power supply 
capacity, and the power suppluy was falling below requirements on some 
occasions - during install there is a lot of CD drive activity and 
also HD activity  so the PSU is stressed.

The PC had been purchased with one cd rom drive. Later a CD RW drive 
was also fitted and took  more power. When I removed the CDRW drive, 
all results were consistent and good. I would have fitted a more 
powerful PSU however it was a very special size in that particular 
(Dell) model.

On other projects I found I had unknowingly purchased 100 CD blanks 
which were very poor quality. I needed a lot of burning. I checked 
most CDs after burn. Nearly 30 % were failed on md5sum checks. They 
would probably have been ok for some other cd activities, audio etc, 
but not for iso image burn, which needs to be bit perfect afaik.

Burning at an even slower speed did help a bit but the main trouble 
then was a poor batch of CDs.

good luck
-- 
alan cocks
Ubuntu user #10391
Linux user #360648



From basroufs at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 10:56:00 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:56:00 +0100
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <496BCC50.8090602@gatech.edu>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>
	<496BCC50.8090602@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901130256m796421bbncc7ec7cc6ca2c6b@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Matthew
(...)
>> After the end of the burning process, everything seemed OK.
>> So, I put the CD in the CD/ DVD combodrive of the laptop and I tried
>> to start the install process. After about 10 minutes the installation
>> process ended up in a big mess.
>
> Can you clarify?

The 'mess' I talked about in my previous message, consisted of a whole
bunch of error messages, quickly rolling over a black screen. The most
frequently observed kind of message was like this:
[ 2369.165361] Buffer i/o error on device sr0,  logical block 843904.
Via another user group, it has become clear to me that 'sr0' refers to
the CD ROM.

> You can try decreasing the speed to 8x.
> Higher speeds have higher error rates.
Thx. for this useful advise.

Respectfully Yours,

Bas.

-- 
===============
Viaconsensus
Bas G. Roufs M.A.
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
===============



From basroufs at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 11:10:57 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:10:57 +0100
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <200901121811.22351.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901121811.22351.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901130310t33619998ya8f5d2bf5ec17c08@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Gene and everybody

With respect to this seemingly useful check procedure:

> Do your own verifying by looking at the filesize of the iso you have
> burnt and dividing that by 2048, the std block size for optical media. > Then use that number in a statement somewhat like this:
> dd if=/media/cdrom(or whatever it is) bs=2048 count=the number you
> got from the division ....

Is it also possible to carry out such a check before finally, really
burning the CD?

With respect to MD5SUM....

> ..use a pipe or whatever to feed it to md5sum.  If the burn is
> good, it will match the md5sum of the source iso file.

Please, explain. Should the number coming out of the division of the
check mentioned above, need to equal the MD5SUM number?

(SNIP)

> Sounds like, toss it and do the next burn at the minimum speed the
> drive can do, in DAO mode.  Some drives are pretty optimistic about
> their working write speed.

Clear. OK.

>> (SNIP) Can you give me some advise on how to minimise the risk of
>> mistakes in the CD burning process? (SNIP)

> See above, it is several steps in the right direction.  If it still fails, try
> cleaning the laser and lens with one of those cleaning disks, replace the
> drive cable etc.  If that fails, bin the drive.

Till quite recently the drive seemed to work quite well, also in
combination with K3B. So I first try all possible other options before
thinking about 'binning'.

However it may be, thanks for your advise.

Bas.



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Tue Jan 13 11:35:47 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:35:47 -0500
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901130310t33619998ya8f5d2bf5ec17c08@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901121811.22351.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<c638edc20901130310t33619998ya8f5d2bf5ec17c08@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901130635.47050.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Bas Roufs wrote:
>Hello Gene and everybody
>
>With respect to this seemingly useful check procedure:
>> Do your own verifying by looking at the filesize of the iso you have
>> burnt and dividing that by 2048, the std block size for optical media. >
>> Then use that number in a statement somewhat like this: dd
>> if=/media/cdrom(or whatever it is) bs=2048 count=the number you got from
>> the division ....
>
>Is it also possible to carry out such a check before finally, really
>burning the CD?

The file is easy to check, see man md5sum.  But that doesn't check the burnt 
disk's integrity at all, no connection in fact.

>With respect to MD5SUM....
>
>> ..use a pipe or whatever to feed it to md5sum.  If the burn is
>> good, it will match the md5sum of the source iso file.
>
>Please, explain. Should the number coming out of the division of the
>check mentioned above, need to equal the MD5SUM number?
>
No, this becomes the 'count=' number of blocks to read from the drive with the 
dd utility.  This prevents any garbage beyond the end of the file from 
getting into your md5sum calculations.  The data format of a cd or dvd 
doesn't have an explicit EOF, so you need to control that yourself via this 
method of limiting the read to be exactly what was written, no more, no less, 
not even a single byte difference in the length.

>(SNIP)
>
>> Sounds like, toss it and do the next burn at the minimum speed the
>> drive can do, in DAO mode.  Some drives are pretty optimistic about
>> their working write speed.
>
>Clear. OK.
>
>>> (SNIP) Can you give me some advise on how to minimise the risk of
>>> mistakes in the CD burning process? (SNIP)
>>
>> See above, it is several steps in the right direction.  If it still fails,
>> try cleaning the laser and lens with one of those cleaning disks, replace
>> the drive cable etc.  If that fails, bin the drive.
>
>Till quite recently the drive seemed to work quite well, also in
>combination with K3B. So I first try all possible other options before
>thinking about 'binning'.

I've had the same experience, several times, usually I relegate that drive to 
read only chores in another box, I'm using 2 old writers that way right now, 
one of them was a LightScribe drive too.  With new ones being a commodity 
item at 50-80 bucks in most locales, and even cheaper (down into the 20 
dollar range the last time I looked a week ago) by mail order, its just not 
worth it to fight with a flaky one.

>However it may be, thanks for your advise.
>
>Bas.



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
The Poems, all three hundred of them, may be summed up in one of their 
phrases:
"Let our thoughts be correct".
		-- Confucius



From gkourtev at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 11:38:38 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:38:38 +0200
Subject: Todays Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA kind of fixed
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901130140m2165c3bu703d6a4d5409de@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b8d784880901130140m2165c3bu703d6a4d5409de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901131338.38829.gkourtev@gmail.com>

I did some testing. After you remove openoffice.org-kde, the problems listed 
disappear. Apparently the issue with it is not solved.
gk


On Tuesday 13 January 2009 11:40:32 Jonas Norlander wrote:
> Today's updates to Openoffice.org 3 from PPA fixes the error/crash
> with the openoffice.org-kde package but introduces two other bugs for
> me (perhaps they been there before).
>
> * I have to use the " Use OpenOffice.org dialogs" options or it want
> show any dialogs when I pressing save or open.
> * When i close OpenOffice it will often crash in the background
> preventing me from start it again, not always but sometimes it takes
> 100% CPU to.
>
> / Jonas


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From basroufs at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 11:45:59 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:45:59 +0100
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <gkhq06$n13$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901121811.22351.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<gkhq06$n13$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901130345i21b4c26bva537e7984af564d0@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Eberhard and everybody

> before you bin the drive, you might take a look at your phsical burner
> setup. If your burner is SATA, just forget about it.

The two (80 and 160 GB) harddisks I have in my HP Pavilion t3240, are
'SATA'. However, the list of specifications of my machine does not
clarify whether the burner is 'IDE' or 'SATA'. That list can be found
online via this link:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00517811&lc=en&dlc=sv&cc=se&product=1148443&lang=sv
Is there another way to find out whether this burner is 'IDE' or 'SATA'?
With respect to my CD/DVD burner, this has been written on the
specifications list:

"(...)16X DVD(+/-)R/RW (+/-)R DL drive. Must use Double-Layer media
discs in order to take advantage of the DL technology (...)"


> If it is IDE, you might try to connect it as a master to his very own IDE
> channel.

Can you briefly explain how?

>
> Doing it like this you will provide a unique IRQ and dma channel to your
> burner.

Please, explain what you mean with 'IRQ' and 'dma'.

Thanks!

Bas.



From jonorland at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 11:55:57 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:55:57 +0100
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901130345i21b4c26bva537e7984af564d0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901121811.22351.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<gkhq06$n13$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901130345i21b4c26bva537e7984af564d0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901130355m33d39a6ft59d279b0b84b73cc@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/13 Bas Roufs <basroufs at gmail.com>:
> Dear Eberhard and everybody
>
>> before you bin the drive, you might take a look at your phsical burner
>> setup. If your burner is SATA, just forget about it.
>
> The two (80 and 160 GB) harddisks I have in my HP Pavilion t3240, are
> 'SATA'. However, the list of specifications of my machine does not
> clarify whether the burner is 'IDE' or 'SATA'. That list can be found
> online via this link:
> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00517811&lc=en&dlc=sv&cc=se&product=1148443&lang=sv
> Is there another way to find out whether this burner is 'IDE' or 'SATA'?
> With respect to my CD/DVD burner, this has been written on the
> specifications list:
>
> "(...)16X DVD(+/-)R/RW (+/-)R DL drive. Must use Double-Layer media
> discs in order to take advantage of the DL technology (...)"
>
>
>> If it is IDE, you might try to connect it as a master to his very own IDE
>> channel.
>
> Can you briefly explain how?
>
>>
>> Doing it like this you will provide a unique IRQ and dma channel to your
>> burner.
>
> Please, explain what you mean with 'IRQ' and 'dma'.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bas.

Wikipedia is your friend.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRQ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_memory_access



From Jiri.Horak at ing.cz  Tue Jan 13 11:57:13 2009
From: Jiri.Horak at ing.cz (Jiri.Horak at ing.cz)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:57:13 +0100
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901130345i21b4c26bva537e7984af564d0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com><200901121811.22351.gene.heskett@verizon.net><gkhq06$n13$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901130345i21b4c26bva537e7984af564d0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62759E58C741F545989C25DE2EFC68BE03437288@spczcms10002.europe.intranet>

 

> If it is IDE, you might try to connect it as a master to his very own IDE
> channel.

Can you briefly explain how?

I assume that the (IDE) CD burner is installed in minitower or
desktop case and the motherboard include one free IDE
connector for CD burner, i.e the burner must be connected
standalone od IDE bus and properly jumpered (master/slave)
SATA burner don`t require setting for master/slave.

>
> Doing it like this you will provide a unique IRQ and dma channel to your
> burner.

Please, explain what you mean with 'IRQ' and 'dma'.

IRQ means interrupt request and dma is direct memory access
This set imho kernel depend on drive specification.For example DMA
can be 33/66

Georg



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Tue Jan 13 12:16:11 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:16:11 +0100
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901130345i21b4c26bva537e7984af564d0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>	<200901121811.22351.gene.heskett@verizon.net>	<gkhq06$n13$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901130345i21b4c26bva537e7984af564d0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gki0mb$ev0$1@ger.gmane.org>

Bas Roufs wrote:
> Dear Eberhard and everybody
> 

> Is there another way to find out whether this burner is 'IDE' or 'SATA'?

Simply open up the case and look at the drive's data cable.

If it looks like this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SATA_Data_Cable.jpg
(not nessecarily angled), it is SATA

if it looks like this
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:IDE_cable_40_pin_%26_80_pin.jpg&filetimestamp=20060728161101
it is IDE



> 
>> If it is IDE, you might try to connect it as a master to his very own IDE
>> channel.
This means, the IDE Device is set to "Master" via the jumpers that you 
will find near the connectors.

Since your harddisk(s) are SATA, it is very likely that your CD-Rom, 
should it be IDE, will already be the master on the sole IDE channel.

Again, if you use SATA, I would expect the CD Rom to be SATA, as well,
but things are different, sometimes. ;-))


> 
> Please, explain what you mean with 'IRQ' and 'dma'.
> 
"IRQ" means Interrupt request and "DMA" is Direct Memory Access
see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRQ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_memory_access

regards
Eberhard




From magick.crow at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 12:22:27 2009
From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:22:27 +0100
Subject: 9.04 Nvidia help needed
In-Reply-To: <496BA2CE.8040303@web.de>
References: <f495db580901112307m2c705e23r770c70cf50a665d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<496AF00A.3000804@web.de>
	<f495db580901120857q411d100cre5d47061441c77d6@mail.gmail.com>
	<496B79D1.1030603@web.de>
	<f495db580901121133o3de53793x6e2c4e06ae25f80f@mail.gmail.com>
	<496BA2CE.8040303@web.de>
Message-ID: <f495db580901130422m383aed96h22bea4409072ecce@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Octavian Florea <miron.florea at web.de>wrote:

> On 01/12/2009 09:33 PM, Knapp wrote:
> > I will report back, but what is going on is really something stranger
> > than that. I think it might be a problem with the dependencies in
> > apt-get. Every time I install nvidia from the repo apt-get removes all
> > the other vid driver and it removes xorg too!
> Indeed, installing nvidia-glx from the jaunty official repos removes
> xorg. However, nvidia-glx-180 from the ppa (
> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas ) don't (or at least they did not for
> me).
>
>
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>

Sorry for being ignorant but what is the PPA for? I clicked on it and looked
around a bit. Also how do you install those files?

-- 
Douglas E Knapp

Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!!
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From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ulrich_Gr=FCn?=)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:01:05 +0100
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
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2009/1/13 Bas Roufs <basroufs at gmail.com>:
> Dear Eberhard and everybody
>
>> before you bin the drive, you might take a look at your phsical burner
>> setup. If your burner is SATA, just forget about it.
>
> The two (80 and 160 GB) harddisks I have in my HP Pavilion t3240, are
> 'SATA'. However, the list of specifications of my machine does not
> clarify whether the burner is 'IDE' or 'SATA'. That list can be found
> online via this link:
> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00517811&lc=en&dlc=sv&cc=se&product=1148443&lang=sv
> Is there another way to find out whether this burner is 'IDE' or 'SATA'?
> With respect to my CD/DVD burner, this has been written on the
> specifications list:

I presume SATA, since you wrote:
''
The 'mess' I talked about in my previous message, consisted of a whole
bunch of error messages, quickly rolling over a black screen. The most
frequently observed kind of message was like this:
[ 2369.165361] Buffer i/o error on device sr0,  logical block 843904.
Via another user group, it has become clear to me that 'sr0' refers to
the CD ROM.
''
An IDE cdrom is /dev/hdb (or even hda), while s SCSI and SATA is
/dev/sda (SCSI Disk) or sr0 (SCSI Rom).
But you could also open the box and look at the data cable. If it's
flat, it's an IDE. If it's not flat (and in my case red coloured) it's
SATA.
-- 
Namasté,
Ulrich
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From miron.florea at web.de  Tue Jan 13 13:10:39 2009
From: miron.florea at web.de (Octavian Florea)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:10:39 +0200
Subject: 9.04 Nvidia help needed
In-Reply-To: <f495db580901130422m383aed96h22bea4409072ecce@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f495db580901112307m2c705e23r770c70cf50a665d1@mail.gmail.com>	<496AF00A.3000804@web.de>	<f495db580901120857q411d100cre5d47061441c77d6@mail.gmail.com>	<496B79D1.1030603@web.de>	<f495db580901121133o3de53793x6e2c4e06ae25f80f@mail.gmail.com>	<496BA2CE.8040303@web.de>
	<f495db580901130422m383aed96h22bea4409072ecce@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496C92CF.8000406@web.de>

Quote from the Ubuntu PPA:
Personal Package Archives (PPA) allow you to upload Ubuntu source 
packages to be built and published as an apt repository by Launchpad.

More info here:
https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Installing%20software%20from%20a%20PPA

In short, to install the right nvidia-glx-180 package you have to find a 
ppa that has them and then either add the lines provided to your 
/etc/apt/sources.list or manually download and install packages.

The packages I installed were removed from the ppa where I got them, but 
are available here:
https://launchpad.net/~thomas-creutz/+archive

However the ABI mismatch issue still exists, so you would have to add to 
your xorg.conf the section mentioned before.

Another solution would be to build your own nvidia driver debs, which is 
what I intend to do from now on.



From jonorland at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 13:43:30 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:43:30 +0100
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <18bb29490901130501m6ae0ff8cgddf4fe74f275f72b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901121811.22351.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
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2009/1/13 Ulrich Grün <ulrich.gruen at gmail.com>:
> 2009/1/13 Bas Roufs <basroufs at gmail.com>:
>> Dear Eberhard and everybody
>>
>>> before you bin the drive, you might take a look at your phsical burner
>>> setup. If your burner is SATA, just forget about it.
>>
>> The two (80 and 160 GB) harddisks I have in my HP Pavilion t3240, are
>> 'SATA'. However, the list of specifications of my machine does not
>> clarify whether the burner is 'IDE' or 'SATA'. That list can be found
>> online via this link:
>> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00517811&lc=en&dlc=sv&cc=se&product=1148443&lang=sv
>> Is there another way to find out whether this burner is 'IDE' or 'SATA'?
>> With respect to my CD/DVD burner, this has been written on the
>> specifications list:
>
> I presume SATA, since you wrote:
> ''
> The 'mess' I talked about in my previous message, consisted of a whole
> bunch of error messages, quickly rolling over a black screen. The most
> frequently observed kind of message was like this:
> [ 2369.165361] Buffer i/o error on device sr0,  logical block 843904.
> Via another user group, it has become clear to me that 'sr0' refers to
> the CD ROM.
> ''
> An IDE cdrom is /dev/hdb (or even hda), while s SCSI and SATA is
> /dev/sda (SCSI Disk) or sr0 (SCSI Rom).

In recent kernels (as of Hardy for Ubuntu) IDE disks and cdroms uses
the SCSI layer meaning they have /dev/sd? and/dev/scd? device nodes.

From tuxebi at gmx.de  Tue Jan 13 14:13:27 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:13:27 +0100
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <18bb29490901130501m6ae0ff8cgddf4fe74f275f72b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>	<200901121811.22351.gene.heskett@verizon.net>	<gkhq06$n13$1@ger.gmane.org>	<c638edc20901130345i21b4c26bva537e7984af564d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<18bb29490901130501m6ae0ff8cgddf4fe74f275f72b@mail.gmail.com>
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Ulrich Grün wrote:

> 
> I presume SATA, since you wrote:
> ''
> The 'mess' I talked about in my previous message, consisted of a whole
> bunch of error messages, quickly rolling over a black screen. The most
> frequently observed kind of message was like this:
> [ 2369.165361] Buffer i/o error on device sr0,  logical block 843904.
> Via another user group, it has become clear to me that 'sr0' refers to
> the CD ROM.
> ''
> An IDE cdrom is /dev/hdb (or even hda), while s SCSI and SATA is
> /dev/sda (SCSI Disk) or sr0 (SCSI Rom).
> But you could also open the box and look at the data cable. If it's
> flat, it's an IDE. If it's not flat (and in my case red coloured) it's
> SATA.

Hi,
I am afraid he will have to open the box, since for a year now (or more, 
I do not remember), ATA devices are labelled as ScSI.
So the ATA/SCSI world is not that simple, anymore.

For example, this is
what my system shows, which is FULLY ATA:

eberhard at grey:~$ mount
/dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[...]
/dev/sda5 on /home type ext3 (rw,relatime)
/dev/sda6 on /space type ext3 (rw,relatime)
/dev/sda2 on /media/Drive_D type fuseblk 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)

kind regards
Eberhard






From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Tue Jan 13 14:34:03 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:34:03 -0600
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <18bb29490901130501m6ae0ff8cgddf4fe74f275f72b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>	<200901121811.22351.gene.heskett@verizon.net>	<gkhq06$n13$1@ger.gmane.org>	<c638edc20901130345i21b4c26bva537e7984af564d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<18bb29490901130501m6ae0ff8cgddf4fe74f275f72b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496CA65B.50309@swbell.net>

Ulrich Grün wrote:
> 2009/1/13 Bas Roufs <basroufs at gmail.com>:
>   
>> Dear Eberhard and everybody
>>
>>     
>>> before you bin the drive, you might take a look at your phsical burner
>>> setup. If your burner is SATA, just forget about it.
>>>       
>> The two (80 and 160 GB) harddisks I have in my HP Pavilion t3240, are
>> 'SATA'. However, the list of specifications of my machine does not
>> clarify whether the burner is 'IDE' or 'SATA'. That list can be found
>> online via this link:
>> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00517811&lc=en&dlc=sv&cc=se&product=1148443&lang=sv
>> Is there another way to find out whether this burner is 'IDE' or 'SATA'?
>> With respect to my CD/DVD burner, this has been written on the
>> specifications list:
>>     
>
> I presume SATA, since you wrote:
> ''
> The 'mess' I talked about in my previous message, consisted of a whole
> bunch of error messages, quickly rolling over a black screen. The most
> frequently observed kind of message was like this:
> [ 2369.165361] Buffer i/o error on device sr0,  logical block 843904.
> Via another user group, it has become clear to me that 'sr0' refers to
> the CD ROM.
> ''
> An IDE cdrom is /dev/hdb (or even hda), while s SCSI and SATA is
> /dev/sda (SCSI Disk) or sr0 (SCSI Rom).
> But you could also open the box and look at the data cable. If it's
> flat, it's an IDE. If it's not flat (and in my case red coloured) it's
> SATA.
>   

My "red" SATA cable's are flat while I have round IDE cables going to 
the CD/DVD drives. The single IDE hard drive I have still uses the old 
flat cable. The new round IDE cables are really nice because they make 
cabling within the box much easier to get around.

Perhaps a better way to look at it is the IDE cables have flat 
connectors that are nearly two (2) inches wide while the SATA cables 
connectors are about half 1/2 inch wide [ smaller than the power plug ].

-- 
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.





From tuxebi at gmx.de  Tue Jan 13 16:24:07 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:24:07 +0100
Subject: [Bulk] WiFi-printers  Error: ''no DHCPOFFERS received''
In-Reply-To: <496B9155.3070007@yahoo.com>
References: <200901101925.29461.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com>
	<496B9155.3070007@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <gkif79$6vf$1@ger.gmane.org>

John Hubbard wrote:
> Ulrich Grün wrote:
>> Namastè,
>>
>> I've connected my HP C6380 via the Linksys WUSB54gr wireless card (at 
>> least, that is what I try).
>>
>> The configuration program RutilT finds my printer, as soon as the 
>> printer is on. My laptop then sends ''DHCPDISCOVER on WLAN0 to 
>> 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15''.
>>
>> After some attempts, I receive the message: ''no DHCPOFFERS 
>> received'', and RutilT shows my printer as disconnected again.
>>
>> Does anybody know (or has a clue) what might be going on? The HP 
>> software on my linuxbox (Debian 4.0) is well installed.
>>
> It sounds like you don't have a DHCP Server anywhere on the wireless 
> network.  If you only have your laptop (with wireless) and a printer 
> attached to a WUSB45gr are going to have problems.  You will either need 
> to set up your laptop to be wireless router/DHCP server or invest in a 
> wireless router.  Hope this helps. 
> 
While it is surely a good idea to have a dhcp Server (or a router acting 
as a dhcp server) on any network, from my experience, you will want to 
set a fixed IP Adress for a network printer and this applies to wireless 
as well.

Doing it like this, you will not have to ask yourself where to find your 
printer, when there is trouble. ;-)

I am slightly confused how your configuration program shortly locates 
your printer when you do not have wireless connectivity on your laptop?

Just to clarify, what is wired and what is wireless in your network?

And is there a router where wires and wireless devices are interconnected?
If so, switch on the dhcp server within the router configuration and 
report back what happens.

Eberhard




From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 17:08:51 2009
From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ulrich_Gr=FCn?=)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:08:51 +0100
Subject: [Bulk] WiFi-printers Error: ''no DHCPOFFERS received''
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References: <200901101925.29461.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com>
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Hi, Eberhard, John end the rest of the list.

<---->
> While it is surely a good idea to have a dhcp Server (or a router acting
> as a dhcp server) on any network, from my experience, you will want to
> set a fixed IP Adress for a network printer and this applies to wireless
> as well.
>
> Doing it like this, you will not have to ask yourself where to find your
> printer, when there is trouble. ;-)
>
> I am slightly confused how your configuration program shortly locates
> your printer when you do not have wireless connectivity on your laptop?
>
> Just to clarify, what is wired and what is wireless in your network?

Nothing is wired (and everything is weird, but that is another thing).
My Printer has a WiFi interface and my laptop is equipped with  the
Linksys Wireless-G USB network adapter with >>RangeBooster<< (yes!)
My printer has a fixed IP address. RutilT finds the Printer (the
printer then prints some network status, which looks exactly as with
WinXP), but somehow the DHCP part doesn't work.

> And is there a router where wires and wireless devices are interconnected?
> If so, switch on the dhcp server within the router configuration and
> report back what happens.

No router. My Desktop is connected via LAN, the laptop and the printer
have to communicate to each other apart from the LAN (which they
refuse until now).

I have no pasword protection at this moment (it apparently is not a
password problem).
It seems very much to be a DHCP problem, since I receive a lot of
DHCPREQUEST, DHCPDISCOVER and No DHCPOFFERS Received. Is there a way
to not need DHCP but use an IP address?

Cheers,
Ulrich
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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Tue Jan 13 18:56:51 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:56:51 +0100
Subject: [Bulk] WiFi-printers Error: ''no DHCPOFFERS received''
In-Reply-To: <18bb29490901130908pf1a2c82v8b2276242584eaad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901101925.29461.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com>	<496B9155.3070007@yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <gkio5j$att$1@ger.gmane.org>

Ulrich Grün wrote:

> 
> Nothing is wired 

ok

(and everything is weird, but that is another thing).

No, imho wireless is weird, I use it only, when nothing else works. ;-))

> My Printer has a WiFi interface and my laptop is equipped with  the
> Linksys Wireless-G USB network adapter with >>RangeBooster<< (yes!)

Maybe you can take your laptop and visit a friend that uses a wireless 
router, just to make sure that your wireless USB adaptor works ok.

> My printer has a fixed IP address. RutilT finds the Printer (the
> printer then prints some network status, which looks exactly as with
> WinXP), but somehow the DHCP part doesn't work.

sure, since from what you say (more precisely from what I understood,) 
there is no dhcp server within your network.

> 
> No router. My Desktop is connected via LAN,
with LAN, you mean wired? To what is your Desktop connected?

  the laptop and the printer
> have to communicate to each other apart from the LAN (which they
> refuse until now).

For my rather limited knowledge, using printer and laptop like this 
(i.e. without an accesspoint or a wireless router) means, that you are 
trying to build up an "adhoc"wireless network.
Independantly of whether this might work (google will most probably help 
you with this, I personally never did it and I do not know whether your 
printer supports this network mode), I would strongly suggest to 
consider getting an access point or the like in order to build up a 
"real" network.
If you do not want to invest into an accesspoint/wireless router, you 
might consider converting your existing desktop into a wireless 
accesspoint to which you then connect your laptop and your printer, 
respectively.

> 
> I have no pasword protection at this moment (it apparently is not a
> password problem).
> It seems very much to be a DHCP problem, since I receive a lot of
> DHCPREQUEST, DHCPDISCOVER and No DHCPOFFERS Received. Is there a way
> to not need DHCP but use an IP address?
sure there is. Ex have a look here
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/

you will most probably need to adjust your settings to what you actually 
have, especially in regard to the interface name.

cheers
Eberhard




From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 19:21:37 2009
From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?=)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:21:37 +0100
Subject: C6380 wi-fi connection
In-Reply-To: <496BA40E.7090608@btinternet.com>
References: <mailman.22139.1231788794.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
	<496BA40E.7090608@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <200901132021.38203.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com>

Am Montag, 12. Januar 2009 21:11:58 schrieb Brian Norman Wootton:
> It sounds like you don't have a DHCP Server anywhere on the wireless
> network.  If you only have your laptop (with wireless) and a printer
> attached to a WUSB45gr are going to have problems.  You will either need
> to set up your laptop to be wireless router/DHCP server or invest in a
> wireless router.  Hope this helps.
>
>
> You could also go here
> <http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/manualCategory?cc=uk&dlc=en&product=356
>0280&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_UKEN> download the PDF 'Basic Guide' and read
> the relevant entry under network setup, there's one for 'router-less' wi-fi
> connection to a laptop from this printer.
> hope this helps too
> brian

Thank you very much.
I will read through the relevant entry and play with setting up the laptop acting as 
DHCP server as soon as I have some spare time.
I will report the results.

-- 
Love and Light,
Ulrich
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From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Tue Jan 13 22:22:13 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:22:13 -0500
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
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On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Billie Walsh wrote:
>Ulrich Grün wrote:
>> 2009/1/13 Bas Roufs <basroufs at gmail.com>:
>>> Dear Eberhard and everybody
>>>
>>>> before you bin the drive, you might take a look at your phsical burner
>>>> setup. If your burner is SATA, just forget about it.
>>>
>>> The two (80 and 160 GB) harddisks I have in my HP Pavilion t3240, are
>>> 'SATA'. However, the list of specifications of my machine does not
>>> clarify whether the burner is 'IDE' or 'SATA'. That list can be found
>>> online via this link:
>>> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00517811&lc=en&dlc=s
>>>v&cc=se&product=1148443&lang=sv Is there another way to find out whether
>>> this burner is 'IDE' or 'SATA'? With respect to my CD/DVD burner, this
>>> has been written on the
>>> specifications list:
>>
>> I presume SATA, since you wrote:
>> ''
>> The 'mess' I talked about in my previous message, consisted of a whole
>> bunch of error messages, quickly rolling over a black screen. The most
>> frequently observed kind of message was like this:
>> [ 2369.165361] Buffer i/o error on device sr0,  logical block 843904.
>> Via another user group, it has become clear to me that 'sr0' refers to
>> the CD ROM.
>> ''
>> An IDE cdrom is /dev/hdb (or even hda), while s SCSI and SATA is
>> /dev/sda (SCSI Disk) or sr0 (SCSI Rom).
>> But you could also open the box and look at the data cable. If it's
>> flat, it's an IDE. If it's not flat (and in my case red coloured) it's
>> SATA.
>
>My "red" SATA cable's are flat while I have round IDE cables going to
>the CD/DVD drives. The single IDE hard drive I have still uses the old
>flat cable. The new round IDE cables are really nice because they make
>cabling within the box much easier to get around.
>
Which is nice for air flow, but the round cable is purposely shorter cuz its 
hell on signal integrity.  I have used a couple of them, for a week or two, 
but I always wind up putting an 80 wire flat cable in.

>Perhaps a better way to look at it is the IDE cables have flat
>connectors that are nearly two (2) inches wide while the SATA cables
>connectors are about half 1/2 inch wide [ smaller than the power plug ].
>
>--
>Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.



-- 
Cheers, Gene
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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From doc.evans at gmail.com  Tue Jan 13 23:36:22 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:36:22 -0700
Subject: Q: Simultaneous copy and rename
Message-ID: <496D2576.1000101@gmail.com>

Is there a way in Konqueror or Dolphin to copy a file from directory A to
directory B, *at the same time* renaming the file in the destination directory?

That is, something equivalent to:
  cp dirA/file1 dirB/file2

  Doc

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From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Wed Jan 14 03:11:13 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:11:13 -0600
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <200901131722.13559.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>	<18bb29490901130501m6ae0ff8cgddf4fe74f275f72b@mail.gmail.com>	<496CA65B.50309@swbell.net>
	<200901131722.13559.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <496D57D1.8080103@swbell.net>

On 01/13/2009 Gene Heskett wrote:
>  On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Billie Walsh wrote:
>  > >
>  > >My "red" SATA cable's are flat while I have round IDE cables going to
>  > >the CD/DVD drives. The single IDE hard drive I have still uses the old
>  > >flat cable. The new round IDE cables are really nice because they make
>  > >cabling within the box much easier to get around.
>  > >
>  Which is nice for air flow, but the round cable is purposely shorter 
cuz its
>  hell on signal integrity.  I have used a couple of them, for a week or 
two,
>  but I always wind up putting an 80 wire flat cable in.
>
>

Well, I've been running for well over a year on my round IDE cables 
without problems. But then I don't have a huge case either. The flat 
cables are generally to long inside my case and get in the way.

I suppose it's a case of "YMMV".

-- 
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.





From donn.ingle at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 07:27:52 2009
From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:27:52 +0200
Subject: Q: Simultaneous copy and rename
In-Reply-To: <496D2576.1000101@gmail.com>
References: <496D2576.1000101@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901140927.52749.donn.ingle@gmail.com>

> Is there a way in Konqueror or Dolphin to copy a file from directory A to
> directory B, *at the same time* renaming the file in the destination
> directory?

Either 
1. You drop/paste it and immediately hit F2 and then type a new name.
2. You do your best to invoke psychic powers and/or $god_of_choice to read 
your mind, infer the desired new name and call the right functions to name 
the file as it hits the target.

I go with option 1 :)

\d



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Wed Jan 14 07:52:01 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:52:01 +0100
Subject: Q: Simultaneous copy and rename
In-Reply-To: <200901140927.52749.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
References: <496D2576.1000101@gmail.com>
	<200901140927.52749.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gkk5j1$cc2$1@ger.gmane.org>

Donn wrote:
>> Is there a way in Konqueror or Dolphin to copy a file from directory A to
>> directory B, *at the same time* renaming the file in the destination
>> directory?
> 
> Either 
> 1. You drop/paste it and immediately hit F2 and then type a new name.
> 2. You do your best to invoke psychic powers and/or $god_of_choice to read 
> your mind, infer the desired new name and call the right functions to name 
> the file as it hits the target.
> 
> I go with option 1 :)
> 
> \d
> 
3. you use krename, especially handy when mass renaming is required.

Eberhard




From art.alexion at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 14:10:55 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:10:55 -0500
Subject: Q: Simultaneous copy and rename
In-Reply-To: <gkk5j1$cc2$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <496D2576.1000101@gmail.com>
	<200901140927.52749.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
	<gkk5j1$cc2$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200901140910.56135.art.alexion@gmail.com>

On Wednesday 14 January 2009 02:52:01 Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> Donn wrote:
> >> Is there a way in Konqueror or Dolphin to copy a file from directory A
> >> to directory B, *at the same time* renaming the file in the destination
> >> directory?
> >
> > Either
> > 1. You drop/paste it and immediately hit F2 and then type a new name.
> > 2. You do your best to invoke psychic powers and/or $god_of_choice to
> > read your mind, infer the desired new name and call the right functions
> > to name the file as it hits the target.
> >
> > I go with option 1 :)
> >
> > \d
>
> 3. you use krename, especially handy when mass renaming is required.

4. Konqueror 3.5 offers to rename subsequent files with name collisions.  I 
hope that Konqueror 4/dolphin.part does the same.

That said, I'm not sure how to tell any current program to take a single file 
and make two copies of it on the destination.  The following command will 
work, but it uses && trickery and doesn't answer your GUI-based question.

cp /source.d/file /dest.d/file1 && cp /source.d/file /dest.d/file2

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From mailers at oranged.to  Wed Jan 14 14:30:55 2009
From: mailers at oranged.to (Jimmy Stewpot)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:30:55 +0000
Subject: KDE 4.2 RC
Message-ID: <496DF71F.3090801@oranged.to>

Hello,

I have recently been testing the KDE 4.2 second beta and the RC release 
since yesterday. One thing that is really annoying me is that the ALT F1 
  key combination seems to no longer bring up the k menu/application 
launcher as expected. I have tried all the usual tricks and nothing 
seems to fix it. I am interested to know if this is something that other 
people are experiencing? Other hotkeys still work fine like ALT-F2 to 
bring up kicker etc. Any suggestions?

Regards,

Jimmy



From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk  Wed Jan 14 14:41:43 2009
From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:41:43 +0000
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
In-Reply-To: <20090112201741.6b43d7db.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
References: <20090112164929.69a652c3.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
	<593661371.1425091231791088742.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<20090112201741.6b43d7db.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20090114144143.73f2dc47.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:17:41 +0000
James Tappin <sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk> wrote:

JT> On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:11:28 +0000 (UTC)
JT> pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote:
JT> 
JT> PN> If so, then perhaps kde 4.2 packages will resolve the issue. (RC is
JT> PN> due out tomorrow; has anyone tested on the beta?...I don't currently
JT> PN> have access to my testbed virtual machine.) 
JT> 
JT> Yes I have, at least with the 3.0 packages. The 3.0.1 I've not actually
JT> tried on my Intrepid box when running KDE (only XFCE). However I've not
JT> had any success there either. [i.e. as far as I can tell the kde
JT> integration works with KDE3 and fails with all known KDE4 versions].

Yesterday's PPA updates to OO and KDE combine to fix the problem it appears.

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From basroufs at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 15:06:30 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:06:30 +0100
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors? - SOLVED!
Message-ID: <c638edc20901140706t7b0bcb68v7bea8cb2c052d93b@mail.gmail.com>

Dear everybody

Thanks for all your contributions to this thread.
This idea appeared to be an effective clue:
> ...try cleaning the laser and lens with one of those cleaning disks ....
I did so this morning.
Additionally, I used another kind of CD which seemingly could be
handled better by my burner - a device with a maximum speed of '40x'.
The combination of these measures proved to be enough to get an image
without mistakes and to successfully install Kubuntu 8.10 at a laptop.
One after-install question remains: I get back to that question in
another message.

Respectfully Yours,

Bas Roufs.



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From jonorland at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 15:19:38 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:19:38 +0100
Subject: Q: Simultaneous copy and rename
In-Reply-To: <496D2576.1000101@gmail.com>
References: <496D2576.1000101@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901140719t5dd66e1bi2fef2d0c0293792e@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/14 D. R. Evans <doc.evans at gmail.com>:
> Is there a way in Konqueror or Dolphin to copy a file from directory A to
> directory B, *at the same time* renaming the file in the destination directory?
>
> That is, something equivalent to:
>  cp dirA/file1 dirB/file2
>
>  Doc
>

Non i know of but you can always use Krusader. Best filemanager i know
of. In KDE4 it's a little "crippled" compared to the KDE3 version but
it's still a very good filemanger.

/ Jonas



From basroufs at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 15:25:14 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:25:14 +0100
Subject: Failure to connect the laptop to the internet after a fresh Kubuntu
	install.
Message-ID: <c638edc20901140725s412f1a9ci5fb086fb14ca2734@mail.gmail.com>

Dear everybody

Today, I did an 'install from scratch' of Kubuntu 8.10 at a laptop - a
Medion 5400, produced in 2002. Via Windows, the HD was not at all
accessible. That's why I first formatted the HD via a Knoppix CD -
consciously, I deleted all the Windows rubbish in that way. Than I
carried out the Kubuntu install I mentioned in another recent thread.
During the installation process, the 'mirror' has been scanned -
something which is only possible, as far as I know, if an internet
connection is available. However, once Kubuntu has been installed at
the laptop, the internet connection via the ethernetmodem does not
work: not via the RJ-45 LAN access, also not via a special 'PCMCIA'
ethernet connection card combined with some special RJ45 connector.
Kubuntu DOES recognise both connections as 'eth0' and 'eth1'
respectively. However, 'eth0' is 'down', even if the RJ45 cable is
plugged in the RJ45 LAN access point. 'eth1' is 'disconnected', even
if the hardwareconnection via the PCMCIA card, the RJ45 connection
device and the RJ45 cable is perfectly OK from hardware point of view.
Does anybody have a clue on how to establish a working connection via
at least one of both connection possibilities?

Second question in this context: does anybody have an idea how I could
check whether my laptop is suitable for wireless internet connections?

Thanks for replying.

-- 
===============
Viaconsensus
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Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
===============



From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com  Wed Jan 14 16:07:28 2009
From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham Todd)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:07:28 +0000
Subject: Can't Install Kubuntu 8.10 Properly - HELP!!
In-Reply-To: <20090112203110.7c78ce48@graham-desktop>
References: <20090108153026.484f4bda@graham-desktop>
	<49667380.4060903@gmail.com>
	<20090112203110.7c78ce48@graham-desktop>
Message-ID: <20090114160728.2f605574@graham-desktop>

Doc Evans asked me if I try a console log in if it would actually
change what happened.

When I tried the console log-in, first I was asked for my username,
which I gave, then my password.  That did not allow me to stat the
graphical interface, so I first entered the command startx, which
showed only a message to the effect that the Xorg server could not
connect.

So next I tried startkde and got the same error message. So now I'm
languishing without KDE.  Again, when I install Kubuntu.8.10 (the 64bit
version), I log in and the the screen goes white, followed by a black
screen then a very dark grey rectangle in the centre.  At that point
the hard drive activity stopped.

My computer is a home made one (I couldn't tell you which motherboard
is installed, but it has an Antec case).  It has an amd64 chip and a
Nvidia graphics card.

Could someone help me further to get Kubuntu 8.10 (Ibex) installed
properly?  The .iso file seems to install but there is a problem with
showing the window manager, it seems.  This problem does not exist with
the Gnome or Enlightenment desktops, which install easily and I can see
the desktops before installing the Nvidia drivers, so I assume I should
see the KDE 8.10 desktop gui, before installing the Nvidia driver(s).

-- 
Graham Todd



From dvohwinkel at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 16:07:39 2009
From: dvohwinkel at gmail.com (David Vohwinkel)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:07:39 -0500
Subject: where is the system administration page in Kubuntu 8.10?
Message-ID: <4ea96f520901140807m77327986q9d18880dc3b7cda8@mail.gmail.com>

I am a new to Kubuntu user..  ex-Fedora, but always kde.

I have always had a System->Administration  menu page on other
distributions.  Even on Ubuntu 8.10  you can click on System then
Administration...  what am I missing?    Does Kubuntu really not have
this?  Is there a way to add this functionality?

I am not talking about "system setting" in the Kubuntu menu.. that is
for kde specific stuff..  I am talking about printer setups, service
start control, user accounts changing, etc.. etc...

Thanks

   -Dave
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From doc.evans at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 16:32:56 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:32:56 -0700
Subject: Q: Simultaneous copy and rename
In-Reply-To: <496D2576.1000101@gmail.com>
References: <496D2576.1000101@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496E13B8.8080402@gmail.com>

D. R. Evans said the following at 01/13/2009 04:36 PM :
> Is there a way in Konqueror or Dolphin to copy a file from directory A to
> directory B, *at the same time* renaming the file in the destination directory?
> 
> That is, something equivalent to:
>   cp dirA/file1 dirB/file2
> 
>   Doc
> 

OK; I deduce from the replies that this isn't actually possible (not
precisely as the problem statement is written, anyway).

I think I'll file a wish at bugs.kde.org.

  Doc

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From basroufs at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 16:52:31 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:52:31 +0100
Subject: where is the system administration page in Kubuntu 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <4ea96f520901140807m77327986q9d18880dc3b7cda8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ea96f520901140807m77327986q9d18880dc3b7cda8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901140852p2e53928bpdd1b67c7436ccbad@mail.gmail.com>

Hello David

> printer setups, service start control, user accounts changing, etc..

Pls. go to the K-menu (left down under), and press at 'Applications'.
>From there, go to 'system'. Then you will will see the printer
settings, and all the other items you are look for. If you get stuck
somewhere, close the menu and press again at K Menu > Applications >
etc.

I hope this helps you. Respectfully Yours,

Bas.



2009/1/14 David Vohwinkel <dvohwinkel at gmail.com>:
> I am a new to Kubuntu user..  ex-Fedora, but always kde.
>
> I have always had a System->Administration  menu page on other
> distributions.  Even on Ubuntu 8.10  you can click on System then
> Administration...  what am I missing?    Does Kubuntu really not have
>
> this?  Is there a way to add this functionality?
>
> I am not talking about "system setting" in the Kubuntu menu.. that is
> for kde specific stuff..  I am talking about printer setups, service
> start control, user accounts changing, etc.. etc...
>
>
> Thanks
>
>    -Dave
>
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>
>



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T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
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From dvohwinkel at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 17:02:21 2009
From: dvohwinkel at gmail.com (David Vohwinkel)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:02:21 -0500
Subject: where is the system administration page in Kubuntu 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901140852p2e53928bpdd1b67c7436ccbad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ea96f520901140807m77327986q9d18880dc3b7cda8@mail.gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901140852p2e53928bpdd1b67c7436ccbad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496E1A9D.40804@gmail.com>

ok,

but where is the services option for changing what starts up in 
different run levels at boot?

Thanks

  -Dave


Bas Roufs wrote:
> Hello David
>
>   
>> printer setups, service start control, user accounts changing, etc..
>>     
>
> Pls. go to the K-menu (left down under), and press at 'Applications'.
> >From there, go to 'system'. Then you will will see the printer
> settings, and all the other items you are look for. If you get stuck
> somewhere, close the menu and press again at K Menu > Applications >
> etc.
>
> I hope this helps you. Respectfully Yours,
>
> Bas.
>
>
>
> 2009/1/14 David Vohwinkel <dvohwinkel at gmail.com>:
>   
>> I am a new to Kubuntu user..  ex-Fedora, but always kde.
>>
>> I have always had a System->Administration  menu page on other
>> distributions.  Even on Ubuntu 8.10  you can click on System then
>> Administration...  what am I missing?    Does Kubuntu really not have
>>
>> this?  Is there a way to add this functionality?
>>
>> I am not talking about "system setting" in the Kubuntu menu.. that is
>> for kde specific stuff..  I am talking about printer setups, service
>> start control, user accounts changing, etc.. etc...
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>    -Dave
>>
>> --
>> kubuntu-users mailing list
>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>   




From jussi01 at ubuntu.com  Wed Jan 14 17:28:25 2009
From: jussi01 at ubuntu.com (Jussi Schultink)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:28:25 +0200
Subject: where is the system administration page in Kubuntu 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901140852p2e53928bpdd1b67c7436ccbad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ea96f520901140807m77327986q9d18880dc3b7cda8@mail.gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901140852p2e53928bpdd1b67c7436ccbad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d03c32900901140928x21ed87cbr5b05d1c3a3764a79@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Bas Roufs <basroufs at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello David
>
>> printer setups, service start control, user accounts changing, etc..
>
> Pls. go to the K-menu (left down under), and press at 'Applications'.
> From there, go to 'system'. Then you will will see the printer
> settings, and all the other items you are look for. If you get stuck
> somewhere, close the menu and press again at K Menu > Applications >
> etc.
>
> I hope this helps you. Respectfully Yours,
>
> Bas.
>
>
>
> 2009/1/14 David Vohwinkel <dvohwinkel at gmail.com>:
>> I am a new to Kubuntu user..  ex-Fedora, but always kde.
>>
>> I have always had a System->Administration  menu page on other
>> distributions.  Even on Ubuntu 8.10  you can click on System then
>> Administration...  what am I missing?    Does Kubuntu really not have
>>
>> this?  Is there a way to add this functionality?


>>
>> I am not talking about "system setting" in the Kubuntu menu.. that is
>> for kde specific stuff..  I am talking about printer setups, service
>> start control, user accounts changing, etc.. etc...
I think youll find most of that in kmenu -> system or in system
settings -> advanced tab. Somethings that are not in the system
settings, like printers and user setup are just missing because the
module is not yet finished.

- Jussi
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>    -Dave
>>
>> --
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>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>>
>>
>
>
>
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From derek at pointerstop.ca  Wed Jan 14 18:11:17 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:11:17 -0400
Subject: where is the system administration page in Kubuntu 8.10?
References: <4ea96f520901140807m77327986q9d18880dc3b7cda8@mail.gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901140852p2e53928bpdd1b67c7436ccbad@mail.gmail.com>
	<496E1A9D.40804@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6fm146-27l.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

David Vohwinkel wrote:

Please don't top-post, it makes it hard to have a conversation.

> ok,
> 
> but where is the services option for changing what starts up in
> different run levels at boot?

Service Manager 
> 
> Bas Roufs wrote:
>>
>> Pls. go to the K-menu (left down under), and press at 'Applications'.
>> >From there, go to 'system'.

Then under the "Advanced" tab.




From wayward4now at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 18:43:36 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:43:36 -0500
Subject: where is the system administration page in Kubuntu 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <4ea96f520901140807m77327986q9d18880dc3b7cda8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ea96f520901140807m77327986q9d18880dc3b7cda8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1231958617.6459.7.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 11:07 -0500, David Vohwinkel wrote:
> I am a new to Kubuntu user..  ex-Fedora, but always kde.

Welcome to the Fedora Ex-Pats club! :) Ric
-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From wayward4now at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 18:44:42 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:44:42 -0500
Subject: K3B - how to burn an ISO-CD without errors?
In-Reply-To: <496BCC50.8090602@gatech.edu>
References: <c638edc20901121417x562b2f1dwed0874bab2173883@mail.gmail.com>
	<496BCC50.8090602@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <1231958683.6459.9.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 18:03 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Bas Roufs wrote:
> > After the end of the burning process, everything seemed OK.
> > So, I put the CD in the CD/ DVD combodrive of the laptop and I tried
> > to start the install process. After about 10 minutes the installation
> > process ended up in a big mess.
> 
> Can you clarify?
> 
> > Can you give me some advise on how to minimise the risk of mistakes in
> > the CD burning process? Should I change one or more of the options/
> > steps mentioned above?
> 
> You can try decreasing the speed to 8x.  Higher speeds have higher error
> rates.

I usually burn at 4X and rarely ever have a problem like I do at higher
speeds. Ric
-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Wed Jan 14 19:32:10 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:32:10 -0800
Subject: Wireless printers
In-Reply-To: <a7f8874a0901072309m6d8699c7y39e27b4a95b604fd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<200901072207.30602.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<a7f8874a0901072309m6d8699c7y39e27b4a95b604fd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901141132.10992.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Wednesday 07 January 2009 11:09:56 pm Hans Henry von Tresckow wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Pastor JW
>
> Since the printer uses DHCP, all you need to do is plug it into the
> router and it gets an ethernet address asigned. You probably want to
> set up the router to always give the same IP address to the printer so
> it doesn't keep changing. I have no clue how hard the wireless setup
> is.

Thanks all!  as a followup on this topic, I bought and installed the HP j6480 
and once I figured out the printer's menu (they do not provide a manual 
except on their unusable CD) it was a breeze!  I couldn't figure out how to 
put the router name all in caps from the printer keyboard so I renamed my 
router and it just worked!  Sends Fax, scans documents, and prints from any 
computer on the router!  That is any of six laptops (all wireless) and three 
desktops (two wired and one wireless).  All are Linux computers.  



-- 
73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n><   PDGA# 35276
http://the-inner-circle.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr



From pewtas at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 19:43:37 2009
From: pewtas at gmail.com (pewtas at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:43:37 +0000
Subject: c-nile virus
Message-ID: <0015175ce1365f4f600460768ee7@google.com>

I've shared a document with you called "c-nile virus":  
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dctxk5fm_19dh5m7kgn&invite=gz49vp8 It's not  
an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open this document,  
just click the link above. --- Hello All, I'm not sure whether or not this  
is a real virus or a joke. Apparently there is a very nasty email virus  
called the c-nile virus!!! :-( I'm not sure.... but I think that it may  
even be affecting me, as I use http://gmail.com for my emails. Yours  
Faithfully and With Love, I sincerely hope that you don't get this nasty  
virus affecting you *SMILE* As I am a Christian (but I don't want to Bible  
bash either), I can recommend that you say a quite prayer to GOD and ask  
for his help!!!! petethepoet (aka 'pew') Peter E Williams, signing off, and  
very sincerely wishing that your computers run happily and without problems  
BIG HAPPY SMILE Goodbye from PEW in Hobart, Tasmania, Australia  
---------------------------------------------
Just wanted to send you this Warning and to be on the Lookout ! There's  
absolutely no cause for Alarm. This is just to prepare you for the Event. I  
thought you would want to know about this e-mail virus. Even the most  
advanced programs from Norton or McAfee cannot take care of this one. It  
appears to affect those who were born prior to 1960. Symptoms: 1. Causes  
you to send the same e-mail twice. 2. Causes you to send a blank e-mail. 3.  
Causes you to send e-mail to the wrong person. 4. Causes you to send it  
back to the person who sent it to you. 5. Causes you to forget to attach  
the attachment. 6. Causes you to hit "SEND" before you've finished. 7.  
Causes you to hit "DELETE" instead of "SEND." 8. Causes you to hit "SEND"  
when you should " DELETE." IT IS CALLED THE "C-NILE VIRUS."

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From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 21:24:41 2009
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:24:41 +1000
Subject: Best place to post re missing Kubuntu Packages
Message-ID: <200901150724.41953.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>

Subject says its all - I feel there a package which should be included in KDE 
4.2 (kimono - KDE mono bindings) but it doesn't appear to be built. 
Whereabouts would I bring this up?

Thanks,
-- 
Lindsay Mathieson
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From doc.evans at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 21:43:42 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:43:42 -0700
Subject: Best place to post re missing Kubuntu Packages
In-Reply-To: <200901150724.41953.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>
References: <200901150724.41953.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496E5C8E.5070306@gmail.com>

Lindsay Mathieson said the following at 01/14/2009 02:24 PM :
> Subject says its all - I feel there a package which should be included in KDE 
> 4.2 (kimono - KDE mono bindings) but it doesn't appear to be built. 
> Whereabouts would I bring this up?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs and say that it is a wish.

Before you do that, check the licensing for kimono, to make sure that it's
compatible with what {K}ubuntu allows.

  Doc

-- 
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From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 22:13:00 2009
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:13:00 +1000
Subject: Best place to post re missing Kubuntu Packages
In-Reply-To: <496E5C8E.5070306@gmail.com>
References: <200901150724.41953.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>
	<496E5C8E.5070306@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901150813.04315.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>

On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:43:42 am D. R. Evans wrote:

>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs and say that it is a wish.

Thanks!

> Before you do that, check the licensing for kimono, to make sure that it's
> compatible with what {K}ubuntu allows.

It is. We already have the qyoto (QT Bindings) in kubuntu.
-- 
Lindsay Mathieson
http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home
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From michael at weblore.com  Wed Jan 14 22:28:23 2009
From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:28:23 -0600
Subject: Cron and mail
Message-ID: <200901141628.23584.michael@weblore.com>

I've got a problem with the interaction between cron and mail.

I recently had to load a new computer with Hardy. I restarted my cron jobs, 
which have a MAILTO command at the top of them. On my old machine, I received 
a daily email showing me the status of these runs. Since the reload, no email 
messages have been received. Would someone be so kind as to give me some 
ideas on how to fix this?




From jonorland at gmail.com  Wed Jan 14 23:52:12 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:52:12 +0100
Subject: Cron and mail
In-Reply-To: <200901141628.23584.michael@weblore.com>
References: <200901141628.23584.michael@weblore.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901141552o2c960a71g42fb5c60ea55085a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/14 Michael Satterwhite <michael at weblore.com>:
> I've got a problem with the interaction between cron and mail.
>
> I recently had to load a new computer with Hardy. I restarted my cron jobs,
> which have a MAILTO command at the top of them. On my old machine, I received
> a daily email showing me the status of these runs. Since the reload, no email
> messages have been received. Would someone be so kind as to give me some
> ideas on how to fix this?
>

Perhaps a problem with your MTA. Check your /var/log/mail.* files for clues.

/ Jonas



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 15 02:37:37 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:37:37 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
Message-ID: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I downloaded a movie that is in two parts called cd1 and cd2.  Can I unite the 
two into one file and seemlessly join them?  I have Kino in my Kmenu, but I 
have never used it.  When I went to the Kino site, it appeared that Kino 
would be able to join two .avi files, but I can't find instructions how to 
accomplish this.  Using Keno, I located the movie I want to join, and clicked 
on the cd1.  A window came on the screen Titled Kino Import.  the following 
was on the window:  'Importing...(this might take a while)'.  There is a box 
that looks like it may contain a progress bar, however it has been open a 
long time without even showing a starting progress.  Is there a way to see if 
it is actually importing anything?  Thanks for any help.

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Thu Jan 15 02:43:59 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:43:59 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <496EA2EF.5040905@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I downloaded a movie that is in two parts called cd1 and cd2.

Open a command prompt, navigate to the directory where the two files
are, then run:

file cd1 cd2

Post the results, so we can help further.

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 15 03:20:57 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:20:57 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496EA2EF.5040905@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496EA2EF.5040905@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901142220.58411.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 14 January 2009 9:43:59 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> > I downloaded a movie that is in two parts called cd1 and cd2.
>
> Open a command prompt, navigate to the directory where the two files
> are, then run:
>
> file cd1 cd2
>
> Post the results, so we can help further.
>
> Matt Flaschen

Dear Matt,

Something strange has happened since I tried to use Kino.  Because I am unsure 
how to use the terminal, I opened my Storage Media.  I was going to identify 
the exact way the files are titled then read the path to enter in the command 
line.

When I opened my Storage Media folder, everything is identified differently.  
Before it identified the various partitions among which are the storage 
partitions sda5 sda7 and sdb5.

Now the items shown in Storage media include the DVDWriter (DVD scd0) and the 
ROM (DVD scd1), Floppy (fd0), which never showed up before unless I was using 
them, then Hard Disk (sda1), Hard Disk (sdb5), which has a green arrow on the 
lower right hand corner of the icon that I take to mean is indicating it as 
active.  Next are three entries that are identified by UUID numbers.  None 
have the green arrow on the lower right hand corner and all indicate I need 
something called HAL to use them.  That is all that is located in Storage 
Media.

Does any of this sound familiar to you?  

When you wrote 'file cd1 cd2', I assumed you thought I knew how to use the 
terminal and would expect me to write the address of the files and their 
individual names to have the konsole locate them for you.  Is that correct?  

If that is the case, would I enter something like this: 'O Jerusalem I' 'O 
Jerusalem II'.  I don't think the titles of the files have anything 
connecting the 'O' from 'Jerusalem' so I don't know if it should show as 
OJerusalemI or O Jerusalem I or O/Jerusalem/I for the first file, and 
OjerusalemII or O Jerusalem II or O/Jerusalem/II with a space between the two 
files.  Or perhaps O_Jerusalem_I O_Jerusalem_I  with similar underscore 
for 'II'.

I realize that these are pretty inexperienced questions, but I am a not 
experienced.

When I attempted to use Kino, did it cause these changes to show in the 
Storage Media folder?  If so, how do I change it back?  I am very confused 
now, because the one storage partition that appears active works like it used 
to.  I click on it and it opens and the files are functional.  When I click 
on the others, it says I need HAL to open them.

Steven 



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 15 03:25:32 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:25:32 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496EA2EF.5040905@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496EA2EF.5040905@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901142225.32966.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 14 January 2009 9:43:59 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> > I downloaded a movie that is in two parts called cd1 and cd2.
>
> Open a command prompt, navigate to the directory where the two files
> are, then run:
>
> file cd1 cd2
>
> Post the results, so we can help further.
>
> Matt Flaschen

Dear Matt,

When I opened user files, I clicked on Media to see if I could see the storage 
partitions; the only partition showing is sdb3, which is my Primary Boot 
Partition for the OS.  What is going on?  Do you have any clues?

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 15 03:30:39 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:30:39 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496EA2EF.5040905@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496EA2EF.5040905@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901142230.40071.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 14 January 2009 9:43:59 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> > I downloaded a movie that is in two parts called cd1 and cd2.
>
> Open a command prompt, navigate to the directory where the two files
> are, then run:
>
> file cd1 cd2
>
> Post the results, so we can help further.
>
> Matt Flaschen

Dear Matt,

When I open the GUI that I am familiar using, System Settings, then Advanced 
and then Disk&Filesystems, all partitions show and in their proper identity.

Earlier this evening, I got a warning about a virus in an email.  Kmail opens 
them automatically when I click on any unread address; is it possible that I 
let a virus in my computer by reading the content of that email?

Sorry to keep bugging you, but I am concerned.  I can't see anything I did 
that should affect the normal function of the computer, and I haven't 
upgraded anything today that might change things.  I did upgrade yesterday, 
though.  I am going to do some research on HAL to see what that is about.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 15 03:40:33 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:40:33 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496EA2EF.5040905@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496EA2EF.5040905@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901142240.33886.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 14 January 2009 9:43:59 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> > I downloaded a movie that is in two parts called cd1 and cd2.
>
> Open a command prompt, navigate to the directory where the two files
> are, then run:
>
> file cd1 cd2
>
> Post the results, so we can help further.
>
> Matt Flaschen

I couldn't find much on HAL except in Adept Package Manager.  Several packages 
are installed in my machine, but I don't really understand, by their 
descriptions, exactly what they do that might have been affected by Kino.

Google did not help.

Steven



From kassube at gmx.net  Thu Jan 15 05:54:09 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:54:09 +0100
Subject: Cron and mail
In-Reply-To: <200901141628.23584.michael@weblore.com>
References: <200901141628.23584.michael@weblore.com>
Message-ID: <200901150654.09387.kassube@gmx.net>

Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> I've got a problem with the interaction between cron and mail.
>
> I recently had to load a new computer with Hardy. I restarted my cron
> jobs, which have a MAILTO command at the top of them. On my old
> machine, I received a daily email showing me the status of these runs.
> Since the reload, no email messages have been received. Would someone
> be so kind as to give me some ideas on how to fix this?

By default there is no mail program installed, so if you didn't add one 
please install one of the packages "mailx" or "mailutils".


Nils



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Thu Jan 15 06:35:42 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:35:42 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901142220.58411.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496EA2EF.5040905@gatech.edu>
	<200901142220.58411.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> Does any of this sound familiar to you?  

I don't really use that interface very much.  You just have to somehow
figure out the path of the files.  How did you download them (that
program may know the filenames)?
> 
> When you wrote 'file cd1 cd2', I assumed you thought I knew how to use the 
> terminal and would expect me to write the address of the files and their 
> individual names to have the konsole locate them for you.  Is that correct?  

You said they were called cd1 and cd2.  Thus, all you have to do is cd
(change directory) into the directory where they are, then run:

file cd1 cd2

like I said.

> If that is the case, would I enter something like this: 'O Jerusalem I' 'O 
> Jerusalem II'.

Are those the names of the files?

  I don't think the titles of the files have anything
> connecting the 'O' from 'Jerusalem' so I don't know if it should show as 
> OJerusalemI or O Jerusalem I or O/Jerusalem/I for the first file, and 
> OjerusalemII or O Jerusalem II or O/Jerusalem/II with a space between the two 
> files.  Or perhaps O_Jerusalem_I O_Jerusalem_I  with similar underscore 
> for 'II'.

Probably "O Jerusalem I" on the command line.

> When I attempted to use Kino, did it cause these changes to show in the 
> Storage Media folder?  If so, how do I change it back?  I am very confused 
> now, because the one storage partition that appears active works like it used 
> to.

I doubt it.

  I click on it and it opens and the files are functional.  When I click
> on the others, it says I need HAL to open them.

Well, you know the files aren't on CD or floppy, right?  So just ignore
those entries.

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Thu Jan 15 06:38:32 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:38:32 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901142230.40071.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496EA2EF.5040905@gatech.edu>
	<200901142230.40071.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <496ED9E8.30208@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> When I open the GUI that I am familiar using, System Settings, then Advanced 
> and then Disk&Filesystems, all partitions show and in their proper identity.

Stay focused on the files.  It's very hard for me to help you with
random GUI issues over the internet.  If you don't know what partitions
are mounted run:

df -Th

in the terminal and post the output.

> Earlier this evening, I got a warning about a virus in an email.  Kmail opens 
> them automatically when I click on any unread address; is it possible that I 
> let a virus in my computer by reading the content of that email?

Very unlikely you received a in-the-wild virus targeted for GNU/Linux

Matt Flaschen



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 07:45:32 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:45:32 +0200
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901142345s2e016bbara9a20e28594c9de3@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/15 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> I downloaded a movie that is in two parts called cd1 and cd2.  Can I unite the
> two into one file and seemlessly join them?  I have Kino in my Kmenu, but I
> have never used it.  When I went to the Kino site, it appeared that Kino
> would be able to join two .avi files, but I can't find instructions how to
> accomplish this.  Using Keno, I located the movie I want to join, and clicked
> on the cd1.  A window came on the screen Titled Kino Import.  the following
> was on the window:  'Importing...(this might take a while)'.  There is a box
> that looks like it may contain a progress bar, however it has been open a
> long time without even showing a starting progress.  Is there a way to see if
> it is actually importing anything?  Thanks for any help.
>
> Steven
>

Most video files can be combined with cat:

$ cat file1.avi file2.avi > combined.avi

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 10:33:06 2009
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:33:06 +1000
Subject: KDE 4.2RC1 - Korganizer - Time Associated Dropdown list too narrow -
	cropped
Message-ID: <200901152033.09898.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>

Anyone else seeing this?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/317421

When creating or editing a ToDo or Event on KOrganizer the time dropdown 
combox list is too narrow, hence all the times are cropped and unreadable. 
Increasing the size of the window makes no difference


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From basroufs at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 12:32:32 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:32:32 +0100
Subject: How to edit the file /etc/network/interfaces as 'superuser'?
Message-ID: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>

Quite probably you are right. 'eth0' is indeed the name of the
Dear everybody

Yesterday, I installed Kubuntu 8.10 from scratch at a laptop HD.
However, the internet connection device 'eth0' is still 'down' - so
far I did not manage to activate it. One of the advises I received in
this context is to edit the file "/etc/network/interfaces": in order
to add 'auto eth0' to it.
Of course, I can only do so as 'superuser'.
So, I tried the commands ALT-F2 > kdsu kate: something which used to
work in a previous version of Kubuntu. But in this case it did not
work.
I tried to switch to a superuser status via K-MENU > Switch user.
Perhaps I overlooked something: it did not work neither.
Packages like emacs and midnight commander do not work, because they
need to be installed first - something for which I need to activate
eth0 first.....

Do you have any suggestion to help me out of this deadlock?

Thx. for replying.

Bas.




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From Jiri.Horak at ing.cz  Thu Jan 15 12:40:34 2009
From: Jiri.Horak at ing.cz (Jiri.Horak at ing.cz)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:40:34 +0100
Subject: eth0 device down
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62759E58C741F545989C25DE2EFC68BE0343729E@spczcms10002.europe.intranet>


>However, the internet connection device 'eth0' is still 'down' - so
>far I did not manage to activate it. 

Imho some modern laptops have two version of BIOS, one for Win XP
one for Vista. Try a flash the laptop with the BIOS for Win XP (if exist),
maybe this help you.
Are you sure that the NIC is enabled in BIOS ? Or please specify the
precise type of your laptop.

Regards

Georg



From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 12:45:01 2009
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:45:01 +1000
Subject: How to edit the file /etc/network/interfaces as 'superuser'?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901152245.05302.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>

On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:32:32 pm Bas Roufs wrote:
> So, I tried the commands ALT-F2 > kdsu kate

its "kdesudo", e.g
	kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces

	
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 15 12:49:05 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:49:05 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901142220.58411.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901150749.06194.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

>How did you download them (that program may know the filenames)?
I was able to locate the sda7 partition by pressing Alt+F2 and typing 
in /media/sda7.  The title of the folders is O Jerusalem I and O Jerusalem 
II, so the address would be /media/sda7/O Jerusalem I, etc.
> You said they were called cd1 and cd2.  
They are actually named as above 'O Jerusalem I' and O Jerusalem II'.  
> Thus, all you have to do is cd (change directory) into the directory where 
>they are, then run:
They are in the sda7 partition.  There is no directory that I know of.  I 
changed the filenames to O Jerusalem I and O Jerusalem II to make them easily 
identifiable.
> Are those the names of the files?
Yes
> Probably "O Jerusalem I" on the command line.
What do I type on the command line if they are not in a directory, they are 
just in the /media/sda7 'partition'?  
> Well, you know the files aren't on CD or floppy, right?  So just ignore
> those entries.
I guess what I mean to say is that when I open 'Storage Media', I expect to 
see the storage media only.  That is sda5, sda7, and sdb5, and in a 
sub-folder CompletedDownloads.  

Of the 8 items now listed in 'Storage Media', only one of them is a storage 
media partition.  Now 7 of the 8 entries are either primary partitions, or 
media and disk writer and players.  sda5 is the only storage partition 
in 'Storage Media' now.  Before, 'Storage Media' contained three storage 
media partitions and one sub-folder called CompletedDownloads, which are no 
longer shown in 'Storage Media'.

Well then Matt, what do I write in the command line to join them together?  If 
they are not in a directory, I cannot change directories, because when I 
tried, the computer said that sda7 is not a directory.  They are called their 
movie name written normally with 'I' or 'II' indicating whether cd1 or cd2, 
and are located in the partition sda7 in the /media ??file, folder, or 
directory, whatever '/media' is.

I am sorry to be so confusing, but not knowing how to do this stuff, I just 
named things the way they would be easiest to find.  I don't exactly know the 
rules, and identifying them as I did worked fine.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 15 12:55:24 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:55:24 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496ED9E8.30208@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901142230.40071.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496ED9E8.30208@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901150755.25092.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Stay focused on the files.  It's very hard for me to help you with
> random GUI issues over the internet.  

Up until I found the 'list', I just experimented with the available graphic 
interfaces to get things done.  I have only used the konsole when helped by 
someone like you.

> If you don't know what partitions 
> are mounted run:

I actually know what partitions are mounted, however, 'Storage Media' was how 
I used to find and open them.  When that changed, I had to experiment again.  
I can find and use them, but they don't show up in 'Storage Media' where they 
should be.

> df -Th

steven at Studio25:~$ df -Th
Filesystem    Type    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1     ext3     20G  7.9G   11G  43% /
varrun       tmpfs    252M  304K  252M   1% /var/run
varlock      tmpfs    252M     0  252M   0% /var/lock
udev         tmpfs    252M   92K  252M   1% /dev
devshm       tmpfs    252M     0  252M   0% /dev/shm
lrm          tmpfs    252M   39M  213M  
16% /lib/modules/2.6.24-23-generic/volatile
/dev/sda5     ext3     63G   26G   35G  43% /media/sda5
/dev/sda7     ext3    110G   90G   14G  87% /media/sda7
/dev/sdb5     ext3     55G   29G   23G  56% /media/sdb5
steven at Studio25:~$

Well that updates you on what I think I know.

Steven






From jonorland at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 13:06:08 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:06:08 +0100
Subject: eth0 device down
In-Reply-To: <62759E58C741F545989C25DE2EFC68BE0343729E@spczcms10002.europe.intranet>
References: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>
	<62759E58C741F545989C25DE2EFC68BE0343729E@spczcms10002.europe.intranet>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901150506w6609f3b5q174db7366cc693f9@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/15  <Jiri.Horak at ing.cz>:
>
>>However, the internet connection device 'eth0' is still 'down' - so
>>far I did not manage to activate it.
>
> Imho some modern laptops have two version of BIOS, one for Win XP
> one for Vista. Try a flash the laptop with the BIOS for Win XP (if exist),
> maybe this help you.
> Are you sure that the NIC is enabled in BIOS ? Or please specify the
> precise type of your laptop.
>
> Regards
>
> Georg
>

Are you sure its name is eth0? It probably are but just to be sure
check your NIC names with the command "ifconfig" or "ip link".

/ Jonas



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 15 13:06:34 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:06:34 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901142345s2e016bbara9a20e28594c9de3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901142345s2e016bbara9a20e28594c9de3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901150806.34964.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

Hi Dotan, 

Great to hear from you

> Most video files can be combined with cat:
>
> $ cat file1.avi file2.avi > combined.avi

If I understand you correctly, I would type into the Konsole the following:

cat /media/sda7/O Jerusalem I O Jerusalem II > combined.avi

Dotan, these files were named before I got help from the 'List'.  They are not 
named with the .avi file identifier, however. they are .avi files.  I can't 
remember for sure, but I think they were called something like OJerusalem 
Cd1.avi or something like that.  I changed the names of the files so long 
ago, I cannot remember.  But when I open the sda7 partition, the movies 
within are listed just like their title would appear on the movie screen.

Do I have to rename them and include '.avi' to join them?  And once joined, do 
I rename the new file just 'O Jerusalem'?  I am amazed you fellows can 
understand my complicated jibberish I have to write.  When I didn't have 
help, I just made things work so that I could understand them.

Steven



From kassube at gmx.net  Thu Jan 15 13:34:24 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:34:24 +0100
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901150749.06194.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>
	<200901150749.06194.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901151434.24122.kassube@gmx.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> What do I type on the command line if they are not in a directory, they
> are just in the /media/sda7 'partition'?

/media/sda7 IS a directory. Yes, I know it is confusing, but it is a 
directory nonetheless. The corresponding partition is /dev/sda7, i.e. the 
partition /dev/sda7 is mounted at the directory /media/sda7. So the 
command would be

file "/media/sda7/O Jerusalem I" "/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II"

and you need the quotes because of the spaces in the file names.

> Well then Matt, what do I write in the command line to join them
> together?

That depends on the file type which you will find out with the command 
above.


Nils



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Thu Jan 15 14:09:35 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:09:35 +0100
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901150806.34964.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901142345s2e016bbara9a20e28594c9de3@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901150806.34964.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <gkng2v$dso$1@ger.gmane.org>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> Hi Dotan, 
> 
> Great to hear from you
> 
>> Most video files can be combined with cat:
>>
>> $ cat file1.avi file2.avi > combined.avi
> 
> If I understand you correctly, I would type into the Konsole the following:
> 

Hi Steven,

just to be safe, please start with "file" as was mentioned by various 
people:

file /media/sda7/"0 Jerusalem I"
and
file /media/sda7/"0 Jerusalem II"

then post back and we'll proceed from there.

Kind regards
Eberhard

>




From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Thu Jan 15 14:40:10 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:40:10 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901150755.25092.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901142230.40071.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496ED9E8.30208@gatech.edu>
	<200901150755.25092.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <496F4ACA.9020801@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> Stay focused on the files.  It's very hard for me to help you with
>> random GUI issues over the internet.  
> 
> Up until I found the 'list', I just experimented with the available graphic 
> interfaces to get things done.  I have only used the konsole when helped by 
> someone like you.

That's fine.  It's just that it's harder to debug graphical problems,
and GUIs change more often.

> When that changed, I had to experiment again.   I can find and use them,

Okay, that's good.  So can you find the two files you downloaded?  If
not, I can try to help you search.

 but they don't show up in 'Storage Media' where they
> should be.

Not sure why that would have changed.

Matt Flaschen




From basroufs at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 14:42:15 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:42:15 +0100
Subject: eth0 device down
In-Reply-To: <62759E58C741F545989C25DE2EFC68BE0343729E@spczcms10002.europe.intranet>
References: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>
	<62759E58C741F545989C25DE2EFC68BE0343729E@spczcms10002.europe.intranet>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901150642j57a12c59tc775a931b5cd514c@mail.gmail.com>

Dear George

>>..... the internet connection device 'eth0' is still 'down' ....

> Imho some modern laptops have two version of BIOS, one for Win XP
> one for Vista. Try a flash the laptop with the BIOS for Win XP (if exist),
> maybe this help you.

The laptop I am talking about is a 'Medion 5400', produced in 2002.
Other important specs: 250 MB DDR RAM, 40 GB HD, Pentium 4 Processor
2,5 GHZ, 4 x USB 2, Firewire, Bluetooth, PCMCIA.  The BIOS of that
machine mentions only two operating systems: DOS and Windows XP - the
2 original OS of the laptop. The HD was simply not accessible any more
with Windows - the only way to recover it was to install some Linux
distro on it and to reformat the whole disk by doing so. But I did not
yet find any way to change the BIOS in such a way that it takes the
new OS (Kubuntu 8.10) into account. Because of some advise at another
Linux forum, I switched the OS mentioned in the BIOS to 'DOS' before
installing Kubuntu. May be this has helped me to install Kubuntu 8.10,
but so far not to establish an internet connection.
Today, I changed something in the file etc/ I changed the OS
indication in the BIOS back to 'Windows XP'. Additionally I changed
some instructions in the file "/etc/network/interfaces". The
combination of both measures resulted so far in an 'unmanaged' status
of eth0, instead of 'down'. But the active connection still is not
available.

> Are you sure that the NIC is enabled in BIOS ?

Can you briefly explain what 'NIC' means in this context and how I can
find it in the BIOS menu?


> Or please specify the  precise type of your laptop.

See above.

Respectfully yours,

Bas.
-- 
===============
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Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
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===============



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Thu Jan 15 14:45:34 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:45:34 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901151434.24122.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>	<200901150749.06194.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901151434.24122.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <496F4C0E.5080103@gatech.edu>

Nils Kassube wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>> What do I type on the command line if they are not in a directory, they
>> are just in the /media/sda7 'partition'?
> 
> /media/sda7 IS a directory. Yes, I know it is confusing, but it is a 
> directory nonetheless. The corresponding partition is /dev/sda7, i.e. the 
> partition /dev/sda7 is mounted at the directory /media/sda7. So the 
> command would be
> 
> file "/media/sda7/O Jerusalem I" "/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II"

Of if you can't find the exact filenames, just do:

find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer* -exec file {} '+'

Either way, post the results.

Matt Flaschen



From basroufs at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 14:47:47 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:47:47 +0100
Subject: eth0 device down
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901150506w6609f3b5q174db7366cc693f9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>
	<62759E58C741F545989C25DE2EFC68BE0343729E@spczcms10002.europe.intranet>
	<b8d784880901150506w6609f3b5q174db7366cc693f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901150647o6a337fafva57aabe2504c63f1@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Jonas and everybody

>> Are you sure that the NIC is enabled in BIOS ? (snip).....

> Are you sure its name is eth0? It probably are but just to be sure
> check your NIC names with the command "ifconfig" or "ip link".
Yes, the name 'eth0' is correct - I already checked it via ifconfig.
What means 'NIC'  in this context?

Thx. for your reply.

Bas.




-- 
===============
Viaconsensus
Bas G. Roufs M.A.
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
===============



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Thu Jan 15 15:14:13 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:14:13 -0500
Subject: eth0 device down
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901150647o6a337fafva57aabe2504c63f1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>	<62759E58C741F545989C25DE2EFC68BE0343729E@spczcms10002.europe.intranet>	<b8d784880901150506w6609f3b5q174db7366cc693f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901150647o6a337fafva57aabe2504c63f1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <496F52C5.4090504@gatech.edu>

Bas Roufs wrote:
> Hello Jonas and everybody
> 
>>> Are you sure that the NIC is enabled in BIOS ? (snip).....
> 
>> Are you sure its name is eth0? It probably are but just to be sure
>> check your NIC names with the command "ifconfig" or "ip link".
> Yes, the name 'eth0' is correct - I already checked it via ifconfig.
> What means 'NIC'  in this context?

Network Interface Card, in your case an Ethernet card.

Matt Flaschen



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Thu Jan 15 15:25:03 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:25:03 -0500
Subject: eth0 device down
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901150647o6a337fafva57aabe2504c63f1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901150506w6609f3b5q174db7366cc693f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901150647o6a337fafva57aabe2504c63f1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901151025.03261.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 15 January 2009, Bas Roufs wrote:
>Hello Jonas and everybody
>
>>> Are you sure that the NIC is enabled in BIOS ? (snip).....
>>
>> Are you sure its name is eth0? It probably are but just to be sure
>> check your NIC names with the command "ifconfig" or "ip link".
>
>Yes, the name 'eth0' is correct - I already checked it via ifconfig.
>What means 'NIC'  in this context?

Network Interface Card.

>Thx. for your reply.
>
>Bas.
>
>
>
>
>--
>===============
>Viaconsensus
>Bas G. Roufs M.A.
>Van 't Hoffstraat 1
>NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
>M. +31.6.446.835.10
>T. +31.30.785.20.40
>BasRoufs at gmail.com
>===============



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
The only rose without thorns is friendship.



From doc.evans at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 16:16:52 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:16:52 -0700
Subject: Can't Install Kubuntu 8.10 Properly - HELP!!
In-Reply-To: <20090114160728.2f605574@graham-desktop>
References: <20090108153026.484f4bda@graham-desktop>	<49667380.4060903@gmail.com>	<20090112203110.7c78ce48@graham-desktop>
	<20090114160728.2f605574@graham-desktop>
Message-ID: <496F6174.4060000@gmail.com>

Graham Todd said the following at 01/14/2009 09:07 AM :
> Doc Evans asked me if I try a console log in if it would actually
> change what happened.
> 
> When I tried the console log-in, first I was asked for my username,
> which I gave, then my password.  That did not allow me to stat the
> graphical interface, so I first entered the command startx, which
> showed only a message to the effect that the Xorg server could not
> connect.

OK. Did you do what I suggested earlier in this thread?

  Doc

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From dotancohen at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 16:41:51 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:41:51 +0200
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901150806.34964.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901142345s2e016bbara9a20e28594c9de3@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901150806.34964.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901150841p28964cedn7ed539e9d8c5e5c9@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/15 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> Hi Dotan,
>
> Great to hear from you
>
>> Most video files can be combined with cat:
>>
>> $ cat file1.avi file2.avi > combined.avi
>
> If I understand you correctly, I would type into the Konsole the following:
>
> cat /media/sda7/O Jerusalem I O Jerusalem II > combined.avi
>
> Dotan, these files were named before I got help from the 'List'.  They are not
> named with the .avi file identifier, however. they are .avi files.  I can't
> remember for sure, but I think they were called something like OJerusalem
> Cd1.avi or something like that.  I changed the names of the files so long
> ago, I cannot remember.  But when I open the sda7 partition, the movies
> within are listed just like their title would appear on the movie screen.
>
> Do I have to rename them and include '.avi' to join them?  And once joined, do
> I rename the new file just 'O Jerusalem'?  I am amazed you fellows can
> understand my complicated jibberish I have to write.  When I didn't have
> help, I just made things work so that I could understand them.
>

You will need to enclose the filenames in quotes, like this:
$ cd /media/sda7/
$ cat "O Jerusalem I" "O Jerusalem II" > "O Jerusalem"

Fro a technical standpoint, the filenames do not have to end in .avi,
although convention means that they should. Also, sometimes spaces in
filenames complicates things slightly, as seen here with the need for
quotes.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Thu Jan 15 17:12:55 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:12:55 +0100
Subject: eth0 device down
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901150642j57a12c59tc775a931b5cd514c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>	<62759E58C741F545989C25DE2EFC68BE0343729E@spczcms10002.europe.intranet>
	<c638edc20901150642j57a12c59tc775a931b5cd514c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gknqqr$phm$1@ger.gmane.org>

Bas Roufs wrote:
>> Imho some modern laptops have two version of BIOS, one for Win XP
>> one for Vista. Try a flash the laptop with the BIOS for Win XP (if exist),
>> maybe this help you.
> 
> The laptop I am talking about is a 'Medion 5400', produced in 2002.

So simply forget about XP/Vista Bios considerations

>But I did not
> yet find any way to change the BIOS in such a way that it takes the
> new OS (Kubuntu 8.10) into account. 

There is none. So you do not need to look for it.

Because of some advise at another
>I changed the OS
> indication in the BIOS back to 'Windows XP'. 

This is ok. With "DOS" you might get a different mode of harddisk 
recognition and/or memory handling, so "XP" is the correct setting.

> But the active connection still is not
> available.

This is quite unusual, especially for such an old machine. Generally 
your network should simply work out of the box. As it obviously does 
not, we better begin with more basic things:


1. Before doing anything else, look within your Bios, likely in 
"peripherals" (or similar) setup, whether you can (de)activate your 
network card. If so, you need to have it enabled. ;-)).
If you do not find it, be sure to look at EVERY setting in ANY Edge of 
the Bios to be sure, that you did not miss it.

2. After enabling the Network Card (possibly), please run "sudo lspci"
from a command-line.
You should get something similar to this from the desktop, I am writing 
this on:
[...]
02:05.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 
Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 13).
[...]

With your result, we will be able to look up whether your Network 
controller might possibly be (in)compatible with Linux.
> 
>> Are you sure that the NIC is enabled in BIOS ?

See before
> 
> Can you briefly explain what 'NIC' means in this context and how I can
> find it in the BIOS menu?

Look it up! "Internal Ethernet Card" might be good to search for, maybe 
not exactly, but very similar.

Kind regards
Eberhard




From catcott at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed Jan 14 16:41:12 2009
From: catcott at blueyonder.co.uk (Jim MacLeod)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:41:12 +0000
Subject: where is the system administration page in Kubuntu 8.10?
References: <4ea96f520901140807m77327986q9d18880dc3b7cda8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gkl4j8$qsj$1@ger.gmane.org>

David Vohwinkel wrote:

> I am a new to Kubuntu user..  ex-Fedora, but always kde.
> 
> I have always had a System->Administration  menu page on other
> distributions.  Even on Ubuntu 8.10  you can click on System then
> Administration...  what am I missing?    Does Kubuntu really not have
> this?  Is there a way to add this functionality?
> 
> I am not talking about "system setting" in the Kubuntu menu.. that is
> for kde specific stuff..  I am talking about printer setups, service
> start control, user accounts changing, etc.. etc...
> 
System Settings - the General tab for printers, user management etc,
Advanced tab for Admin and other settings

> Thanks
> 
>    -Dave
Jim




From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 15 17:52:56 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:52:56 -0400
Subject: where is the system administration page in Kubuntu 8.10?
References: <4ea96f520901140807m77327986q9d18880dc3b7cda8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <oo9446-mke.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

David Vohwinkel wrote:

> I am a new to Kubuntu user..  ex-Fedora, but always kde.
> 
> I have always had a System->Administration  menu page on other
> distributions.  Even on Ubuntu 8.10  you can click on System then
> Administration...  what am I missing?    Does Kubuntu really not have
> this?  Is there a way to add this functionality?
> 
> I am not talking about "system setting" in the Kubuntu menu.. that is
> for kde specific stuff..  I am talking about printer setups, service
> start control, user accounts changing, etc.. etc...

Why do you think that's "KDE specific stuff"?  It is, as in Ubuntu, "stuff" 
that uses Desktop-specific tools to do the management, but it has a KDE 
module for printer setup, services, users, etc, etc.





From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Thu Jan 15 18:52:32 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:52:32 -0500
Subject: where is the system administration page in Kubuntu 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <oo9446-mke.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <4ea96f520901140807m77327986q9d18880dc3b7cda8@mail.gmail.com>
	<oo9446-mke.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <200901151352.32339.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Thursday 15 January 2009, Derek Broughton wrote:
> > I am not talking about "system setting" in the Kubuntu menu.. that is
> > for kde specific stuff..  I am talking about printer setups, service
> > start control, user accounts changing, etc.. etc...
>
> Why do you think that's "KDE specific stuff"?  It is, as in Ubuntu, "stuff"
> that uses Desktop-specific tools to do the management, but it has a KDE
> module for printer setup, services, users, etc, etc.

Anyone know where to set network items??   I have yet to find where I can 
specify a fixed IP address and all of the other network settings that used to 
be on the 8.04  System Settings page(s).



From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 15 19:43:28 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:43:28 +1100
Subject: re configuring for a cd/dvd video- audio auto loading
Message-ID: <BLU143-W3F45155075E19ECBE6807CDD70@phx.gbl>


can anyone help me configure so as to auto play a cd/dvd video-audio like kylie minoqoue
as when loaded the cd/dvd the auto window comes up as to view contents or do nothing
and in the bottom left tag configure, unable to do so as wont to play either thru kaffine or
armok, as run Kubuntu 8.04?????????
 
ray 
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From basroufs at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 19:58:06 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:58:06 +0100
Subject: eth0 device down
In-Reply-To: <gknqqr$phm$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>
	<62759E58C741F545989C25DE2EFC68BE0343729E@spczcms10002.europe.intranet>
	<c638edc20901150642j57a12c59tc775a931b5cd514c@mail.gmail.com>
	<gknqqr$phm$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901151158x4b709630g753edda3d78bc643@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Eberhard and everybody else

>
> > But the active connection still is not available.
>
> This is quite unusual, especially for such an old machine. As it obviously
> does not, we better begin with more basic things:

> 1. Before doing anything else, look within your Bios, likely in
> "peripherals" (or similar) setup, whether you can (de)activate your
> network card. If so, you need to have it enabled. ;-)). ....

I have done so - however, eth0 is still 'unmanaged'.

> 2. After enabling the Network Card (possibly), please run "sudo lspci"
> from a command-line.

This is the result (transferred via an USB stick):

bas at Viaconsensus2:~$ sudo lspci
(Enter; no password check because of previous sudo commands in the same session)
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS645DX Host &
Memory & AGP Controller
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Virtual
PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS962 [MuTIOL
Media IO] (rev 04)
00:02.1 SMBus: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS961/2 SMBus Controller
00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE]
00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1
Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1
Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1
Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller
00:06.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 536EP Data Fax Modem
00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
00:0c.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc CB1410 Cardbus Controller
00:0d.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW323 (rev 04)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4
440 Go 64M] (rev a3)
bas at Viaconsensus2:~$


So, the "ethernet controller" and several other hardware basics in my
laptop are being recognised by Linux.

Thx. for your assistance.

Bas.
--
===============
Viaconsensus
Bas G. Roufs M.A.
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
===============



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 15 20:26:37 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:26:37 -0500
Subject: Is the list still functioning?
In-Reply-To: <496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901142220.58411.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901151526.37519.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I just rose from 7 hours of sleep on a weekday.  There were no messages on 
the 'List'.  I was worried that I either broke something in my computer or 
that something at the 'List' stopped working.  I hope everything is all 
right.

I just got a reply from another forum that was an question from someone about 
a post made about a month ago.  They were having a similar problem and 
wondered if I had solved the problem.  I helped them the best I could and 
referred them to this forum when they had difficulties with Kubuntu.  I hope 
the 'List' is still working.  Losing this forum would be terrible.  It is the 
best source for help that exists for Kubuntu users.

Steven



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 15 20:22:13 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:22:13 -0400
Subject: where is the system administration page in Kubuntu 8.10?
References: <4ea96f520901140807m77327986q9d18880dc3b7cda8@mail.gmail.com>
	<oo9446-mke.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901151352.32339.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <lgi446-31j.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Bruce Marshall wrote:

> On Thursday 15 January 2009, Derek Broughton wrote:
>> > I am not talking about "system setting" in the Kubuntu menu.. that is
>> > for kde specific stuff..  I am talking about printer setups, service
>> > start control, user accounts changing, etc.. etc...
>>
>> Why do you think that's "KDE specific stuff"?  It is, as in Ubuntu,
>> "stuff" that uses Desktop-specific tools to do the management, but it has
>> a KDE module for printer setup, services, users, etc, etc.
> 
> Anyone know where to set network items??   I have yet to find where I can
> specify a fixed IP address and all of the other network settings that used
> to
> be on the 8.04  System Settings page(s).
> 
<sigh>

Same place - general tab, Network settings





From mdshaw89 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 20:31:12 2009
From: mdshaw89 at gmail.com (Mike Shaw)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:31:12 -0500
Subject: Is the list still functioning?
In-Reply-To: <200901151526.37519.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901142220.58411.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>
	<200901151526.37519.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <d11e8140901151231sa70bbe6nd77427eaadbc3a04@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Steven Vollom
<stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I just rose from 7 hours of sleep on a weekday.  There were no messages on
> the 'List'.  I was worried that I either broke something in my computer or
> that something at the 'List' stopped working.  I hope everything is all
> right.
>
> I just got a reply from another forum that was an question from someone about
> a post made about a month ago.  They were having a similar problem and
> wondered if I had solved the problem.  I helped them the best I could and
> referred them to this forum when they had difficulties with Kubuntu.  I hope
> the 'List' is still working.  Losing this forum would be terrible.  It is the
> best source for help that exists for Kubuntu users.
>
> Steven
>
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>

Seems okay to me.

l8r,

Mike
-- 
The Boulder, Earth Bending Wrestler: "The Boulder's over his
conflicted feelings, and now he's ready to bury you in a
rock-a-lanche!"
Toph Beifong: "Whenever you're ready- The Pebble!"
- from chapter 26 of Avatar: The Last Airbender



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Thu Jan 15 20:59:52 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:59:52 -0500
Subject: Is the list still functioning?
In-Reply-To: <200901151526.37519.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901142220.58411.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>
	<200901151526.37519.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <496FA3C8.8000205@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I just rose from 7 hours of sleep on a weekday.  There were no messages on 
> the 'List'.

Steven, if you ever are worried that you're not receiving all the list
messages, check the web archive at
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ .  Other than that, be
patient.  Sometimes the list is busy, sometimes it's calm.

Matt Flaschen



From kassube at gmx.net  Thu Jan 15 21:24:05 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:24:05 +0100
Subject: eth0 device down
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901151158x4b709630g753edda3d78bc643@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>
	<gknqqr$phm$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901151158x4b709630g753edda3d78bc643@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901152224.05029.kassube@gmx.net>

Bas Roufs wrote:
> bas at Viaconsensus2:~$ sudo lspci
> Data Fax Modem 00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
> Ltd.
> RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

There was a problem with some 8139 cards, maybe yours is one of them. If 
it is there should be appropriate error messages in the log. Can you post 
the output of these commands?

grep -2 8139 /var/log/messages | grep -2 error
lsmod | grep 8139

And maybe here is the solution. From 
<http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=529769>:

| I added acpi=off to /boot/grub/menu.lst which made eth0 show up

I know you can see your card but OTOH you probably have a different kernel 
than the person of the forum post.


Nils



From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Thu Jan 15 21:37:58 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:37:58 -0500
Subject: where is the system administration page in Kubuntu 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <lgi446-31j.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <4ea96f520901140807m77327986q9d18880dc3b7cda8@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901151352.32339.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
	<lgi446-31j.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <200901151637.58363.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Thursday 15 January 2009, Derek Broughton wrote:
> > Anyone know where to set network items??   I have yet to find where I can
> > specify a fixed IP address and all of the other network settings that
> > used to
> > be on the 8.04  System Settings page(s).
>
> <sigh>
>
> Same place - general tab, Network settings

Uhh   want to run that by me again?   I went to:

system settings -->  network settings

and the only think I see there are proxy settings and socks and some other 
unrelated items.

I finally installed knetworkmanager and tried to set up a static IP with a 
named connection.   It set up ok but there was no way in H it was going to 
use it.    I would edit the connection, all looked good,  "Connect and save"  
but I was still connected using a DHCP it picked up at install.

Downing eth0 and bring it back up did nothing.   Restarting the networking did 
nothing.

I have Hardy on the same machine so what I finally ended up doing was copying 
over the ENTIRE  /etc/network/  directory from Hardy to Intrepid and now it 
works.

Seems to me there are a lot of things that were left out or just plain don't 
work in 8.10.   It's for that reason that I am not using it.



From basroufs at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 22:15:02 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:15:02 +0100
Subject: eth0 device down
In-Reply-To: <200901152224.05029.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>
	<gknqqr$phm$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901151158x4b709630g753edda3d78bc643@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901152224.05029.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901151415g2d7b9349hb7ce7d628764fe9e@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Nils

>> Data Fax Modem 00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
>> Ltd.
>> RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
>
> There was a problem with some 8139 cards, maybe yours is one of them.

This info may be useful, thx.


> If it is there should be appropriate error messages in the log. Can you post
> the output of these commands?
>
> grep -2 8139 /var/log/messages | grep -2 error
> lsmod | grep 8139

Below you find all of them - transferred by means of a USB stick.

I hope you can recognise some relevant error message in this heap of
information.

Thanks for your efforts anyway.

Respectfully Yours,

Bas.


root at Viaconsensus2:/home/bas# grep -2 8139 /var/log/messages
==============================================

Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.076371] usbcore:
registered new interface driver hub
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.076485] usbcore:
registered new device driver usb
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.114827] 8139too Fast
Ethernet driver 0.9.28
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.114886] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.115196] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.115202] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.115955] eth0: RealTek
RTL8139 at 0x1800, 00:40:ca:bc:9e:88, IRQ 10
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.149969] 8139cp: 10/100
PCI Ethernet driver v1.3 (Mar 22, 2004)
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.195459] ehci_hcd
0000:00:03.3: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.195772] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 5
--
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    0.681382] pnp: PnP ACPI:
found 11 devices
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    0.681387] ACPI: ACPI bus
type pnp unregistered
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    0.681394] PnPBIOS: Disabled
by ACPI PNP
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    0.681970] PCI: Using ACPI
for IRQ routing
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    0.682144] NET: Registered
protocol family 8
--
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.825549] usbcore:
registered new interface driver hub
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.869410] usbcore:
registered new device driver usb
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.919365] 8139too Fast
Ethernet driver 0.9.28
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.924077] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.924392] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.924398] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.925177] eth0: RealTek
RTL8139 at 0x1800, 00:40:ca:bc:9e:88, IRQ 10
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.954939] ehci_hcd
0000:00:03.3: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.955248] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 5

root at Viaconsensus2:/home/bas# grep -2 8139 /var/log/messages
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.076371] usbcore:
registered new interface driver hub
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.076485] usbcore:
registered new device driver usb
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.114827] 8139too Fast
Ethernet driver 0.9.28
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.114886] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.115196] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.115202] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.115955] eth0: RealTek
RTL8139 at 0x1800, 00:40:ca:bc:9e:88, IRQ 10
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.149969] 8139cp: 10/100
PCI Ethernet driver v1.3 (Mar 22, 2004)
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.195459] ehci_hcd
0000:00:03.3: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
Jan 14 17:34:13 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.195772] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 5
--
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    0.681382] pnp: PnP ACPI:
found 11 devices
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    0.681387] ACPI: ACPI bus
type pnp unregistered
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    0.681394] PnPBIOS: Disabled
by ACPI PNP
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    0.681970] PCI: Using ACPI
for IRQ routing
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    0.682144] NET: Registered
protocol family 8
--
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.825549] usbcore:
registered new interface driver hub
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.869410] usbcore:
registered new device driver usb
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.919365] 8139too Fast
Ethernet driver 0.9.28
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.924077] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.924392] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.924398] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.925177] eth0: RealTek
RTL8139 at 0x1800, 00:40:ca:bc:9e:88, IRQ 10
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.954939] ehci_hcd
0000:00:03.3: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
Jan 14 17:39:48 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.955248] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 5

--
Jan 15 08:36:31 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.057178] usbcore:
registered new interface driver hub
Jan 15 08:36:31 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.088991] usbcore:
registered new device driver usb
Jan 15 08:36:31 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.107992] 8139too Fast
Ethernet driver 0.9.28
Jan 15 08:36:31 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.108098] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)
Jan 15 08:36:31 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.108409] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10
Jan 15 08:36:31 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.108415] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
Jan 15 08:36:31 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.109189] eth0: RealTek
RTL8139 at 0x1800, 00:40:ca:bc:9e:88, IRQ 10
Jan 15 08:36:31 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.125571] 8139cp: 10/100
PCI Ethernet driver v1.3 (Mar 22, 2004)
Jan 15 08:36:31 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.223757] ohci1394
0000:00:0d.0: enabling device (0010 -> 0012)
Jan 15 08:36:31 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    4.223772] ohci1394
0000:00:0d.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
--
Jan 15 11:16:32 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.409096] usbcore:
registered new interface driver hub
Jan 15 11:16:32 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.445185] usbcore:
registered new device driver usb
Jan 15 11:16:32 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.454575] 8139too Fast
Ethernet driver 0.9.28
Jan 15 11:16:32 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.454670] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)
Jan 15 11:16:32 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.455014] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10
Jan 15 11:16:32 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.455019] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
Jan 15 11:16:32 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.455892] eth0: RealTek
RTL8139 at 0x1800, 00:40:ca:bc:9e:88, IRQ 10
Jan 15 11:16:32 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.473120] 8139cp: 10/100
PCI Ethernet driver v1.3 (Mar 22, 2004)
Jan 15 11:16:32 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.585415] ohci1394
0000:00:0d.0: enabling device (0010 -> 0012)
Jan 15 11:16:32 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.585429] ohci1394
0000:00:0d.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
--

Jan 15 11:38:23 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.382503] usbcore:
registered new interface driver hub
Jan 15 11:38:23 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.412751] usbcore:
registered new device driver usb
Jan 15 11:38:23 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.426095] 8139too Fast
Ethernet driver 0.9.28
Jan 15 11:38:23 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.426153] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)
Jan 15 11:38:23 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.426497] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10
Jan 15 11:38:23 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.426503] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
Jan 15 11:38:23 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.427378] eth0: RealTek
RTL8139 at 0x1800, 00:40:ca:bc:9e:88, IRQ 10
Jan 15 11:38:23 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.433714] 8139cp: 10/100
PCI Ethernet driver v1.3 (Mar 22, 2004)
Jan 15 11:38:23 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.528684] ehci_hcd
0000:00:03.3: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
Jan 15 11:38:23 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.529032] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 5
--
Jan 15 12:03:40 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.021632] usbcore:
registered new interface driver hub
Jan 15 12:03:40 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.047939] usbcore:
registered new device driver usb
Jan 15 12:03:40 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.062222] 8139too Fast
Ethernet driver 0.9.28
Jan 15 12:03:40 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.091360] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)
Jan 15 12:03:40 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.091821] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10
Jan 15 12:03:40 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.091883] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
Jan 15 12:03:40 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.092886] eth0: RealTek
RTL8139 at 0x1800, 00:40:ca:bc:9e:88, IRQ 10
Jan 15 12:03:40 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.131198] ehci_hcd
0000:00:03.3: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
Jan 15 12:03:40 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.131640] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 5
--
Jan 15 12:03:40 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.144608] hub 1-0:1.0: USB
hub found
Jan 15 12:03:40 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.144714] hub 1-0:1.0: 6
ports detected
Jan 15 12:03:40 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.158806] 8139cp: 10/100
PCI Ethernet driver v1.3 (Mar 22, 2004)
Jan 15 12:03:40 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.249429] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKE] enabled at IRQ 5
Jan 15 12:03:40 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    5.249496] ohci_hcd
0000:00:03.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKE] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5

Jan 15 19:36:51 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.242075] usbcore:
registered new interface driver hub
Jan 15 19:36:51 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.269279] usbcore:
registered new device driver usb
Jan 15 19:36:51 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.280245] 8139too Fast
Ethernet driver 0.9.28
Jan 15 19:36:51 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.280303] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)
Jan 15 19:36:51 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.280680] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10
Jan 15 19:36:51 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.280686] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
Jan 15 19:36:51 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.281564] eth0: RealTek
RTL8139 at 0x1800, 00:40:ca:bc:9e:88, IRQ 10
Jan 15 19:36:51 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.296154] 8139cp: 10/100
PCI Ethernet driver v1.3 (Mar 22, 2004)
Jan 15 19:36:51 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.346613] ehci_hcd
0000:00:03.3: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
Jan 15 19:36:51 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.346959] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 5
--
Jan 15 21:33:21 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.234756] usbcore:
registered new interface driver hub
Jan 15 21:33:21 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.264086] usbcore:
registered new device driver usb
Jan 15 21:33:21 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.275638] 8139too Fast
Ethernet driver 0.9.28
Jan 15 21:33:21 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.275696] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)
Jan 15 21:33:21 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.276153] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10
Jan 15 21:33:21 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.276159] 8139too
0000:00:08.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
Jan 15 21:33:21 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.308166] eth0: RealTek
RTL8139 at 0x1800, 00:40:ca:bc:9e:88, IRQ 10
Jan 15 21:33:22 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.420939] ehci_hcd
0000:00:03.3: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
Jan 15 21:33:22 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.421285] ACPI: PCI
Interrupt Link [LNKH] enabled at IRQ 5
--
Jan 15 21:33:22 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.421445] ehci_hcd
0000:00:03.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
Jan 15 21:33:22 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.421506] ehci_hcd
0000:00:03.3: irq 5, io mem 0xe0003000
Jan 15 21:33:22 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.424744] 8139cp: 10/100
PCI Ethernet driver v1.3 (Mar 22, 2004)
Jan 15 21:33:22 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.433630] ehci_hcd
0000:00:03.3: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004
Jan 15 21:33:22 Viaconsensus2 kernel: [    6.433938] usb usb1:
configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice


bas at Viaconsensus2:~$ grep -2 error lsmod | grep 8139
grep: lsmod: No such file or directory

bas at Viaconsensus2:~$ grep -2 error lsmod
grep: lsmod: No such file or directory


-- 
===============
Viaconsensus
Bas G. Roufs M.A.
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
===============



From kassube at gmx.net  Thu Jan 15 22:44:02 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:44:02 +0100
Subject: eth0 device down
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901151415g2d7b9349hb7ce7d628764fe9e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901152224.05029.kassube@gmx.net>
	<c638edc20901151415g2d7b9349hb7ce7d628764fe9e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901152344.02169.kassube@gmx.net>

Bas Roufs wrote:
> > If it is there should be appropriate error messages in the log. Can
> > you post the output of these commands?
> >
> > grep -2 8139 /var/log/messages | grep -2 error
> > lsmod | grep 8139
>
> Below you find all of them - transferred by means of a USB stick.
>
> I hope you can recognise some relevant error message in this heap of
> information.
> root at Viaconsensus2:/home/bas# grep -2 8139 /var/log/messages

There should have been a "| grep -2 error" after the command which would 
have reduced the output. Anyway, there is no need to repeat the command. 
There is none of the error messages I had expected, so I think it is a 
different problem.

> bas at Viaconsensus2:~$ grep -2 error lsmod | grep 8139
> grep: lsmod: No such file or directory
>
> bas at Viaconsensus2:~$ grep -2 error lsmod
> grep: lsmod: No such file or directory

Well, the command should have been "lsmod | grep 8139". Maybe you could 
repeat that one (without the quotes).


Nils



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 15 23:04:07 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:04:07 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <gkng2v$dso$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901142345s2e016bbara9a20e28594c9de3@mail.gmail.com>	<200901150806.34964.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gkng2v$dso$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <496FC0E7.2070501@sbcglobal.net>


>
> just to be safe, please start with "file" as was mentioned by various 
> people:
>   
steven at Studio25:~$ file "/media/sda7/O Jerusalem I" "/media/sda7/O 
Jerusalem II"
/media/sda7/O Jerusalem I:  RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 608 x 256, 
25.00 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)
/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 608 x 256, 
25.00 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)
steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/sda7/"0 Jerusalem I"
/media/sda7/0 Jerusalem I: ERROR: cannot open `/media/sda7/0 Jerusalem 
I' (No such file or directory)
steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/sda7/"0 Jerusalem II"
/media/sda7/0 Jerusalem II: ERROR: cannot open `/media/sda7/0 Jerusalem 
II' (No such file or directory)
steven at Studio25:~$

steven
>
>   
>
>
>   




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 15 23:07:51 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:07:51 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496F4C0E.5080103@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>	<200901150749.06194.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901151434.24122.kassube@gmx.net>
	<496F4C0E.5080103@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>


> Of if you can't find the exact filenames, just do:
>
> find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer* -exec file {} '+'
>
> Either way, post the results.
>   
steven at Studio25:~$ file "/media/sda7/O Jerusalem I" "/media/sda7/O 
Jerusalem II"
/media/sda7/O Jerusalem I:  RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 608 x 256, 
25.00 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)
/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 608 x 256, 
25.00 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)
steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/sda7/"0 Jerusalem I"
/media/sda7/0 Jerusalem I: ERROR: cannot open `/media/sda7/0 Jerusalem 
I' (No such file or directory)
steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/sda7/"0 Jerusalem II"
/media/sda7/0 Jerusalem II: ERROR: cannot open `/media/sda7/0 Jerusalem 
II' (No such file or directory)
steven at Studio25:~$ find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer* -exec file {} '+'
 >
 >
 >
 >
Nothing seemed to happen when I pressed enter, so I pressed it a couple 
of more times.

Steven
>
>
>   




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 15 23:10:32 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:10:32 -0500
Subject: Is the list still functioning?
In-Reply-To: <496FA3C8.8000205@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901142220.58411.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>	<200901151526.37519.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496FA3C8.8000205@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <496FC268.20505@sbcglobal.net>

Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>   
>> I just rose from 7 hours of sleep on a weekday.  There were no messages on 
>> the 'List'.
>>     
>
> Steven, if you ever are worried that you're not receiving all the list
> messages, check the web archive at
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ .  Other than that, be
> patient.  Sometimes the list is busy, sometimes it's calm.
>
> Matt Flaschen
>
>   
I am sorry, and thanks Matt.  I just love the 'List'.  I will try to 
remember your response.  I guess I am used to lots of posts, almost all 
the time.

Steven



From jonorland at gmail.com  Thu Jan 15 23:35:06 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:35:06 +0100
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>
	<200901150749.06194.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901151434.24122.kassube@gmx.net> <496F4C0E.5080103@gatech.edu>
	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901151535qd798b8ekfdc49fbdfd24d557@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/16 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
>
>> Of if you can't find the exact filenames, just do:
>>
>> find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer* -exec file {} '+'
>>
>> Either way, post the results.
>>
> steven at Studio25:~$ file "/media/sda7/O Jerusalem I" "/media/sda7/O
> Jerusalem II"
> /media/sda7/O Jerusalem I:  RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 608 x 256,
> 25.00 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)
> /media/sda7/O Jerusalem II: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 608 x 256,
> 25.00 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)
> steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/sda7/"0 Jerusalem I"
> /media/sda7/0 Jerusalem I: ERROR: cannot open `/media/sda7/0 Jerusalem
> I' (No such file or directory)
> steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/sda7/"0 Jerusalem II"
> /media/sda7/0 Jerusalem II: ERROR: cannot open `/media/sda7/0 Jerusalem
> II' (No such file or directory)
> steven at Studio25:~$ find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer* -exec file {} '+'
>  >

Missing a quote there, should be  find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec
file {} '+'

> Nothing seemed to happen when I pressed enter, so I pressed it a couple
> of more times.
>
> Steven



From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com  Thu Jan 15 23:43:04 2009
From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham Todd)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:43:04 +0000
Subject: Can't Install Kubuntu 8.10 Properly - HELP!!
In-Reply-To: <496F6174.4060000@gmail.com>
References: <20090108153026.484f4bda@graham-desktop>
	<49667380.4060903@gmail.com>
	<20090112203110.7c78ce48@graham-desktop>
	<20090114160728.2f605574@graham-desktop>
	<496F6174.4060000@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090115234304.793fcc30@graham-desktop>

On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:16:52 -0700
"D. R. Evans" <doc.evans at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK. Did you do what I suggested earlier in this thread?
> 
>   Doc
[snipped]

I've tried everything suggested without success, Doc, but as I've lost
all my mail that wasn't archived, could you let me know exactly what
you suggested earlier? Thanks :-)

-- 
Graham Todd



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 02:48:20 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:48:20 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901151535qd798b8ekfdc49fbdfd24d557@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901151535qd798b8ekfdc49fbdfd24d557@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901152148.20856.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Missing a quote there, should be  find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec
> file {} '+'

steven at Studio25:~$ find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec
find: missing argument to `-exec'
steven at Studio25:~$ file {} '+'
{}: ERROR: cannot open `{}' (No such file or directory)
+:  ERROR: cannot open `+' (No such file or directory)
steven at Studio25:~$


Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 02:53:45 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:53:45 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901142220.58411.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901152153.45251.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Well, you know the files aren't on CD or floppy, right?  So just ignore
> those entries.

Well Matt, in the 'Storage Media', of the eight entries, only sdb5 functions 
when I click on it, and it doesn't contain the files I needed.  I was able to 
find them pressing Alt+F2 and entering /media/sda7.  The 'Storage Media' 
choice has pretty much become useless.

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 16 02:55:52 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:55:52 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901152148.20856.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>	<b8d784880901151535qd798b8ekfdc49fbdfd24d557@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901152148.20856.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <496FF738.8000005@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> Missing a quote there, should be  find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec
>> file {} '+'
> 
> steven at Studio25:~$ find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec
> find: missing argument to `-exec'

It's all one line:

find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec file {} '+'

Anyway, you already posted the results we need.  They are both AVI files.

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 16 02:57:21 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:57:21 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901152153.45251.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901142220.58411.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>
	<200901152153.45251.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <496FF791.5010907@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> Well, you know the files aren't on CD or floppy, right?  So just ignore
>> those entries.
> 
> Well Matt, in the 'Storage Media', of the eight entries, only sdb5 functions 
> when I click on it, and it doesn't contain the files I needed.  I was able to 
> find them pressing Alt+F2 and entering /media/sda7.  The 'Storage Media' 
> choice has pretty much become useless.

I'm sorry, I don't know why that happened.

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 02:58:48 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:58:48 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496FF738.8000005@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901152148.20856.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496FF738.8000005@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901152158.48477.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 15 January 2009 9:55:52 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> >> Missing a quote there, should be  find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec
> >> file {} '+'
> >
> > steven at Studio25:~$ find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec
> > find: missing argument to `-exec'
>
> It's all one line:
>
> find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec file {} '+'
>
> Anyway, you already posted the results we need.  They are both AVI files.
>
> Matt Flaschen

Dear Matt,

I cut and pasted the entire line and that is what showed when I did that.  
What did I do wrong?  Thanks.

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 16 03:08:57 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:08:57 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901152158.48477.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901152148.20856.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496FF738.8000005@gatech.edu>
	<200901152158.48477.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <496FFA49.7080409@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Thursday 15 January 2009 9:55:52 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>> Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>> Missing a quote there, should be  find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec
>>>> file {} '+'
>>> steven at Studio25:~$ find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec
>>> find: missing argument to `-exec'
>> It's all one line:
>>
>> find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec file {} '+'
>>
>> Anyway, you already posted the results we need.  They are both AVI files.
>>
>> Matt Flaschen
> 
> Dear Matt,
> 
> I cut and pasted the entire line and that is what showed when I did that.  
> What did I do wrong?  Thanks.

Can you copy the entire lines (command and output) from your terminal
(from steven at Studio25 all the way to the end)?

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 03:27:42 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:27:42 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496FFA49.7080409@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901152158.48477.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496FFA49.7080409@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901152227.43051.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Can you copy the entire lines (command and output) from your terminal
> (from steven at Studio25 all the way to the end)?

I am not sure I understand the question, however, is what you want what 
happens after I enter      find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec file {} '+'

steven at Studio25:~$ find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec file {} '+'
find: /media/sda7/lost+found: Permission denied
/media/sda7/O Jerusalem I:  RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 608 x 256, 25.00 
fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)
/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 608 x 256, 25.00 
fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)
steven at Studio25:~$

I hope this is what you asked for.

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 16 03:46:03 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:46:03 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901152227.43051.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901152158.48477.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496FFA49.7080409@gatech.edu>
	<200901152227.43051.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <497002FB.2060709@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> Can you copy the entire lines (command and output) from your terminal
>> (from steven at Studio25 all the way to the end)?
> 
> I am not sure I understand the question, however, is what you want what 
> happens after I enter      find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec file {} '+'
> 
> steven at Studio25:~$ find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec file {} '+'
> find: /media/sda7/lost+found: Permission denied
> /media/sda7/O Jerusalem I:  RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 608 x 256, 25.00 
> fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)
> /media/sda7/O Jerusalem II: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 608 x 256, 25.00 
> fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)
> steven at Studio25:~$

There, that's correct.  You pasted the whole line this time and it worked.

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 03:51:56 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:51:56 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496FF738.8000005@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901152148.20856.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496FF738.8000005@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901152251.56997.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 15 January 2009 9:55:52 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> >> Missing a quote there, should be  find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec
> >> file {} '+'
> >
> > steven at Studio25:~$ find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec
> > find: missing argument to `-exec'
>
> It's all one line:
>
> find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec file {} '+'
>
> Anyway, you already posted the results we need.  They are both AVI files.
>
> Matt Flaschen

If I posted the  right information, what do I do to join the two files?  TIA.

Steven





From pewtas at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 04:17:30 2009
From: pewtas at gmail.com (Peter Williams)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:17:30 +0000
Subject: how do I fix error: linux mint elyssa 5.1 could not download all 
	repository indexes
Message-ID: <bb1c4c350901152017s560c3234m937cdbc1ed8d0e71@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,

I will happily provide extra info as requested!!! My computer is an
extremely new & very fast pc. I think that it has dual core processors, 4
Gigabytes of RAM and also has a one terabyte HDD!!!! I also use the Telstra
Bigpond ADSL Liberty ISP plan. ( I don't really understand this.. so I hope
that it makes sense to someone! )

I'm having some problems with the Synaptic Package Manager.

Basically all my repository server internet addresses are totally incorrect,
in the Synaptic Package Manager. Because of this I cannot update my system
with the updates.

I've tried googling for:

how do I fix linux mint elyssa 5.1 could not download all repository indexes

but I'm not finding any useful info. ;-(

I have been told by many people that Google.com is a very powerful search
engine etc -- however, I have to admit that I don't fully understand how to
use it, eg. to search.

I borrowed a Library book called "Google Search & Rescue for DUMMIES" -- but
I don't know when I'll find time to read it ;-(

Can someone please tell me or show me how to put in the correct web
addresses (I don't know the correct name) for the Synaptic Package Manager.

I currently boot-up my computer from a CD-ROM and it boots into Mint Linux
5.1 Gnome Desktop. Even when my repositories are not being updated I find
the Operating System to be VERY STABLE!!!! I have read in computer magazines
etc that Linux Mint 5 is a very good OS and I agree!!!

I'm only a Linux Newbie, and although I've been using it for years, I still
get very confused and worried about typing Linux commands into the terminal
shells. This is because I'm a 'newbie' at linux and I don't understand the
commands. I have printed out heaps and heaps of documents on paper.. and I
have so very many pieces of paper that I loose track of them!!!!!! ;-(

I will appreciate any help. Please be kind to me... as I have a mental
illness, and I need to keep taking my prescription medication... which works
extremely well... as long as I don't forget to take it!.

Yours Sincerely and With Much Love,

Praying for someone kind to help me!!!

PEW aka Pete the Piffle-man poet
(named 'cos of poetry I wrote about a cat I used to own many years ago named
'Piffle')

Fond Regards,
Peter Eric (aka 'pew') WILLIAMS
from Hobart, Tasmania, Australia -- phone (03) 6236-9675

My free website is: http://pewtas.googlepages.com  (or)
http://tinyurl.com/yuyejs

also: http://pewslinuxvault.googlepages.com  -- which I started 'cos my
other website is too massive!!!

(please visit my free website and let me know what you think about it.)

Natalie Wood  - "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is
when he is a baby."
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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Fri Jan 16 06:57:09 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:57:09 +0100
Subject: eth0 device down
In-Reply-To: <200901152224.05029.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>	<gknqqr$phm$1@ger.gmane.org>	<c638edc20901151158x4b709630g753edda3d78bc643@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901152224.05029.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <gkpb45$9dn$1@ger.gmane.org>

Nils Kassube wrote:

> And maybe here is the solution. From 
> <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=529769>:
> 
> | I added acpi=off to /boot/grub/menu.lst which made eth0 show up
> 
I googled for "8139too problem" and indeed,
acpi=off added to your /boot/grub/menu.lst is one of the more common 
problem solvers.

You need to simply enter it on the "kernel" line of your
dfault ubuntu start entry.

I would suggest that you try it quickly and report back on what you get.

regards
Eberhard




From tuxebi at gmx.de  Fri Jan 16 07:09:43 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:09:43 +0100
Subject: eth0 device down
In-Reply-To: <200901152344.02169.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <c638edc20901150432m4c0ef655rea994bff97366889@mail.gmail.com>	<200901152224.05029.kassube@gmx.net>	<c638edc20901151415g2d7b9349hb7ce7d628764fe9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901152344.02169.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <gkpbro$b9p$1@ger.gmane.org>

Nils Kassube wrote:
> Bas Roufs wrote:

Bas,
antoher thought:

in contrast to what I said in regard to the DOS/win setting in the BIOS, 
this is what I found on:
http://www.softace.dk/personal/jarl/linux-on-md5400.html

cite:
Installing SuSE Linux 8.1
In the BIOS make sure to change "installed OS" from "WinXP" to "DOS". It 
seems like there is a problem to use the RTL8139 ethernet simultaneously 
with the CardBus because they share the same IRQ.

I do not know wheterh is changes things now after years since suse 8.1, 
but you can always try.

Kind regards
Eberhard




From wayward4now at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 07:49:54 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:49:54 -0500
Subject: Is the list still functioning?
In-Reply-To: <496FA3C8.8000205@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901142220.58411.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>
	<200901151526.37519.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496FA3C8.8000205@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <1232092195.6459.89.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 15:59 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> > I just rose from 7 hours of sleep on a weekday.  There were no messages on 
> > the 'List'.
> 
> Steven, if you ever are worried that you're not receiving all the list
> messages, check the web archive at
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ .  Other than that, be
> patient.  Sometimes the list is busy, sometimes it's calm.

Hey Matt! You forgot where you are. <cackles> Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 16 07:50:17 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:50:17 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>	<200901150749.06194.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901151434.24122.kassube@gmx.net>	<496F4C0E.5080103@gatech.edu>
	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49703C39.6020305@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> Of if you can't find the exact filenames, just do:
>>
>> find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer* -exec file {} '+'
>>
>> Either way, post the results.
>>   
> steven at Studio25:~$ file "/media/sda7/O Jerusalem I" "/media/sda7/O 
> Jerusalem II"
> /media/sda7/O Jerusalem I:  RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 608 x 256, 
> 25.00 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)
> /media/sda7/O Jerusalem II: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 608 x 256, 
> 25.00 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)

Okay, I had to do some testing.  But what you need to do is:

sudo apt-get install transcode

avimerge -o "/media/sda7/Jerusalem.avi" -i "/media/sda7/O Jerusalem I"
"/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II"

Starting from avimerge, that's all one line.

Matt Flaschen



From wayward4now at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 07:52:33 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:52:33 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901142230.40071.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496EA2EF.5040905@gatech.edu>
	<200901142230.40071.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1232092353.6459.92.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 22:30 -0500, Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 January 2009 9:43:59 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> > Steven Vollom wrote:
> > > I downloaded a movie that is in two parts called cd1 and cd2.
> >
> > Open a command prompt, navigate to the directory where the two files
> > are, then run:
> >
> > file cd1 cd2
> >
> > Post the results, so we can help further.
> >
> > Matt Flaschen
> 
> Dear Matt,
> 
> When I open the GUI that I am familiar using, System Settings, then Advanced 
> and then Disk&Filesystems, all partitions show and in their proper identity.
> 
> Earlier this evening, I got a warning about a virus in an email.  
The one that was posted here was a gag. C-Nile? Get it? If not then just
say it out loud. :) Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 16 07:54:57 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:54:57 -0500
Subject: Is the list still functioning?
In-Reply-To: <1232092195.6459.89.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901142220.58411.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>	<200901151526.37519.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496FA3C8.8000205@gatech.edu>
	<1232092195.6459.89.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <49703D51.4040703@gatech.edu>

Ric Moore wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 15:59 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>> Steven Vollom wrote:
>>> I just rose from 7 hours of sleep on a weekday.  There were no messages on 
>>> the 'List'.
>> Steven, if you ever are worried that you're not receiving all the list
>> messages, check the web archive at
>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ .  Other than that, be
>> patient.  Sometimes the list is busy, sometimes it's calm.
> 
> Hey Matt! You forgot where you are. <cackles> Ric

Gah!   Sorry.  Obviously, that link should be
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/ .

I blame the Reply-To!  It's /too/ convenient.

Duly pwned,

Matt Flaschen



From wayward4now at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 08:00:38 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:00:38 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901152148.20856.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901151535qd798b8ekfdc49fbdfd24d557@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901152148.20856.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1232092839.6459.98.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 21:48 -0500, Steven Vollom wrote:
> > Missing a quote there, should be  find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec
> > file {} '+'
> 
> steven at Studio25:~$ find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer*" -exec
> find: missing argument to `-exec'
> steven at Studio25:~$ file {} '+'
> {}: ERROR: cannot open `{}' (No such file or directory)
> +:  ERROR: cannot open `+' (No such file or directory)
> steven at Studio25:~$

Use a graphical app that will allow you to rename them, which might be
safer for the terminal challenged. I never use spaces or anything else
cutesy in a filename. Way too much madness happens. :) Ric


-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From gkourtev at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 08:16:31 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:16:31 +0200
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
In-Reply-To: <20090114144143.73f2dc47.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
References: <20090112164929.69a652c3.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
	<20090112201741.6b43d7db.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
	<20090114144143.73f2dc47.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <200901161016.31969.gkourtev@gmail.com>

I did the update to KDE 4.1.4 incl the updates to OO. The problem is still 
there. Even more -- as soon as it appears, it freezes the system.
gk


On Wednesday 14 January 2009 16:41:43 James Tappin wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:17:41 +0000
> James Tappin <sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> JT> On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:11:28 +0000 (UTC)
> JT> pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote:
> JT>
> JT> PN> If so, then perhaps kde 4.2 packages will resolve the issue. (RC is
> JT> PN> due out tomorrow; has anyone tested on the beta?...I don't
> currently JT> PN> have access to my testbed virtual machine.)
> JT>
> JT> Yes I have, at least with the 3.0 packages. The 3.0.1 I've not actually
> JT> tried on my Intrepid box when running KDE (only XFCE). However I've not
> JT> had any success there either. [i.e. as far as I can tell the kde
> JT> integration works with KDE3 and fails with all known KDE4 versions].
>
> Yesterday's PPA updates to OO and KDE combine to fix the problem it
> appears.
>
> --
> +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+
>
> | James Tappin           | School of Physics & Astronomy |  O__    |
> | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham      | --  \/` |
> | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722                  |         |
>
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From kassube at gmx.net  Fri Jan 16 08:23:04 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:23:04 +0100
Subject: how do I fix error: linux mint elyssa 5.1 could not download all
	repository indexes
In-Reply-To: <bb1c4c350901152017s560c3234m937cdbc1ed8d0e71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bb1c4c350901152017s560c3234m937cdbc1ed8d0e71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901160923.04058.kassube@gmx.net>

Peter Williams wrote:
> I'm having some problems with the Synaptic Package Manager.
>
> Basically all my repository server internet addresses are totally
> incorrect, in the Synaptic Package Manager. Because of this I cannot
> update my system with the updates.

Does this <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu> help? If 
it doesn't, can you post the file "/etc/apt/sources.list"?


Nils



From linux_milano at yahoo.it  Fri Jan 16 09:02:24 2009
From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (Pol)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:02:24 +0100
Subject: privileges of mounting devices
Message-ID: <gkpif0$t36$2@ger.gmane.org>

Usb devices are automatically mounted with root privileges.
How to allow current session owner to mount device as its own?

Thank you
--
Pol 




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 09:54:16 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:54:16 +0200
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496FC0E7.2070501@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901142345s2e016bbara9a20e28594c9de3@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901150806.34964.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gkng2v$dso$1@ger.gmane.org> <496FC0E7.2070501@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901160154p13b45ad6r5ad35db455634b49@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/16 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
>
>>
>> just to be safe, please start with "file" as was mentioned by various
>> people:
>>

File just tell you what type of data the file contains. There is no
safety concerns here, and even if the files are executables, unless
something _very_ contrived and designed especially for this were coded
into them, it would be harmless.

> steven at Studio25:~$ file "/media/sda7/O Jerusalem I" "/media/sda7/O
> Jerusalem II"
> /media/sda7/O Jerusalem I:  RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 608 x 256,
> 25.00 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)
> /media/sda7/O Jerusalem II: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 608 x 256,
> 25.00 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (6 channels, 48000 Hz)

As you see, enclosing the entire path with quotes is the right way.

> steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/sda7/"0 Jerusalem I"
> /media/sda7/0 Jerusalem I: ERROR: cannot open `/media/sda7/0 Jerusalem
> I' (No such file or directory)
> steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/sda7/"0 Jerusalem II"
> /media/sda7/0 Jerusalem II: ERROR: cannot open `/media/sda7/0 Jerusalem
> II' (No such file or directory)
> steven at Studio25:~$

As you see, you cannot quote only part of the path with quotes.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 09:55:45 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:55:45 +0200
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496ED93E.80702@gatech.edu>
	<200901150749.06194.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901151434.24122.kassube@gmx.net> <496F4C0E.5080103@gatech.edu>
	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901160155wbf2bb22qe05890d5e804f664@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/16 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> steven at Studio25:~$ find /media/sda7 -name "*Jer* -exec file {} '+'

What are you trying to do here? You've gone too far off track. Do you
want to combine the files? Then just cat them together, using quotes
around the filenames because of the spaces. I posted the correct
command earlier.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 11:55:12 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:55:12 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2?  Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <49703C39.6020305@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net> <49703C39.6020305@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901160655.12847.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Friday 16 January 2009 2:50:17 am Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> "/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II"

Here is the result.  I think the names of the files is the problem, however, I 
am not sure how to rename them so that they will work.  Is that a 
possibility?  Do you have a recommendation for how to rename the files?

steven at Studio25:~$ avimerge -o "/media/sda7/Jerusalem.avi" -i "/media/sda7/O 
Jer                                               usalem I""/media/sda7/O 
Jerusalem II"
scanning file /media/sda7/O Jerusalem I/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II for 
video/audi                                               o parameter
AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
REASON: Not a directory
steven at Studio25:~$ avimerge -o "/media/sda7/Jerusalem.avi" -i "/media/sda7/O 
Jer
scanning file /media/sda7/O Jerusalem I/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II for 
video/audi
AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
REASON: Not a directory
steven at Studio25:~$


Steven



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 12:04:16 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:04:16 +0200
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901160655.12847.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net> <49703C39.6020305@gatech.edu>
	<200901160655.12847.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901160404m8860899ta5eaeeb351ece25e@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/16 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> On Friday 16 January 2009 2:50:17 am Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>> "/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II"
>
> Here is the result.  I think the names of the files is the problem, however, I
> am not sure how to rename them so that they will work.  Is that a
> possibility?  Do you have a recommendation for how to rename the files?
>
> steven at Studio25:~$ avimerge -o "/media/sda7/Jerusalem.avi" -i "/media/sda7/O

Have you tried cat instead of avimerge? Depending on the format of the
video (avi is just a container) it may work. Actually, it is more than
likely to work. Look back a few emails for the proper command,
including cding into the proper directory.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
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ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 12:13:09 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:13:09 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901160155wbf2bb22qe05890d5e804f664@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901160155wbf2bb22qe05890d5e804f664@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> What are you trying to do here? 
Dotan, I am getting help from several people.  I do the recommendation of each 
post as it arrives.  Is that bad procedure?  Just before I read this email, I 
attempted a process that involved downloading and installing a package called 
transcode.  After installing the package I entered and got the following 
result:

steven at Studio25:~$ avimerge -o "/media/sda7/Jerusalem.avi" -i "/media/sda7/O 
Jerusalem I""/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II"
scanning file /media/sda7/O Jerusalem I/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II for 
video/audi                                               o parameter
AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
REASON: Not a directory
steven at Studio25:~$ avimerge -o "/media/sda7/Jerusalem.avi" -i "/media/sda7/O 
Jer
scanning file /media/sda7/O Jerusalem I/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II for 
video/audi
AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
REASON: Not a directory
steven at Studio25:~$

Shoot, Dotan, you know my limitations.  I have to trust you guys and make the 
steps as advised.  I don't know what happened to the command.  It doesn't 
look like what I typed into the terminal.


>Then just cat them together, using quotes around the filenames because of the 
>spaces. I posted the correct command earlier.

I have attempted so many commands that I am confused now.  I don't remember 
the correct post you mention, however, I have cut and pasted (to keep from 
making an error) everything I have tried, and nothing has had a positive 
result so far.  Additionally, I don't understand the term 'cat them 
together'.  I will google that term when I finish reading the posts.

Thanks for your patience.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 12:40:11 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:40:11 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901160404m8860899ta5eaeeb351ece25e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901160655.12847.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901160404m8860899ta5eaeeb351ece25e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901160740.11899.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Friday 16 January 2009 7:04:16 am Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/16 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> > On Friday 16 January 2009 2:50:17 am Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> >> "/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II"
> >
> > Here is the result.  I think the names of the files is the problem,
> > however, I am not sure how to rename them so that they will work.  Is
> > that a possibility?  Do you have a recommendation for how to rename the
> > files?
> >
> > steven at Studio25:~$ avimerge -o "/media/sda7/Jerusalem.avi" -i
> > "/media/sda7/O

I will have to change how I use my emails again.  When I was asked to start 
trimming my emails, I changed how I kept my records.  Then an instruction for 
a repair in my computer ended up in my losing all my email records.  
Additionally, I have been getting so many emails, I haven't been saving the 
incoming.  I thought I had it covered with the trim procedure coupledwith 
putting proven repairs in a folder named 'code'.  I am going to start saving 
all emails again, so I won't miss going back to a former post.  I think I 
will try to check the archives for the one you mentioned.

I googled cat.  It looks like a container for huge stuff, like movies and 
such.  I would love to use that procedure if you actually merge the two cd's.  
I would like to view the movie without interruption if that is what happens.  
I really think I will learn.  I am trying my hardest.

Steven



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 13:02:24 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:02:24 +0200
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901160155wbf2bb22qe05890d5e804f664@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901160502t60a72d78v79a65c7dd87628d7@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/16 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
>
>> What are you trying to do here?
> Dotan, I am getting help from several people.  I do the recommendation of each
> post as it arrives.  Is that bad procedure?

No, but you should understand these two things before doing any command:
1) What it does
2) Why you are doing it

I saw several emails where you performed some "file" commands, do you
know what they were for? Do you know what the exec commands were for?
I do not think that you would have done them if you know what they
were for.

> Just before I read this email, I
> attempted a process that involved downloading and installing a package called
> transcode.  After installing the package I entered and got the following
> result:
>

Why transcode? Do you realize what that will do to your videos?

> Shoot, Dotan, you know my limitations.  I have to trust you guys and make the
> steps as advised.  I don't know what happened to the command.  It doesn't
> look like what I typed into the terminal.
>

Don't trust any command that you do not know what it will do! You can
easily do a lot of damage that way. Especially if the good-intentioned
author of the command made a mistake, typo, or assumed something that
he should not have assumed. It happens _often_.

>>Then just cat them together, using quotes around the filenames because of the
>>spaces. I posted the correct command earlier.
>
> I have attempted so many commands that I am confused now.  I don't remember
> the correct post you mention, however, I have cut and pasted (to keep from
> making an error) everything I have tried, and nothing has had a positive
> result so far.  Additionally, I don't understand the term 'cat them
> together'.  I will google that term when I finish reading the posts.
>

To "cat them together" use the "cat" command to merge the files:

$ cat file1.avi file2.avi > output.avi

"cat": the name of the command
"file1.avi file2.avi": the list of files to be combined
">": output pipe
"output.avi": the name of the output file

For you, I assume this is what you need:
$ cd /media/sda7/
$ cat "O Jerusalem I" "O Jerusalem II" > "O Jerusalem"

It is an exersize for the reader to determine what the first command does.

> Thanks for your patience.
>

Other people are as patient with me when I ask similar questions on
this list. It's how we help each other!

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From joelol75 at verizon.net  Fri Jan 16 13:41:14 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:41:14 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901160155wbf2bb22qe05890d5e804f664@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>


>
> I have attempted so many commands that I am confused now.  I don't remember 
> the correct post you mention, however, I have cut and pasted (to keep from 
> making an error) everything I have tried, and nothing has had a positive 
> result so far.  Additionally, I don't understand the term 'cat them 
> together'.  I will google that term when I finish reading the posts.
>
> Thanks for your patience.
>
> Steven
>
>   
You can't cat (concatenate) .avi files (which you have)  You must use 
avimerge (part of avifile-utils I believe) You need to install this 
program first to get avimerge. So:

sudo apt-get install avifile-utils

OK, now cd to the directory that the two .avi files are in and run the 
command:

avimerge -o outputfile.avi -i inputfile1.avi inputfile2.avi 
inputfile3.avi etc.

thats -o and -i the letter meaning the file "outputfile.avi" will be the 
combined files of the input files (Can be two, three, ten....)

A good habit would be to enclose the filenames in quotes because your 
filenames have spaces in them.  Or just goto the directory with the two 
files and rename them.  Like make the Jerusalem I.avi file just 1.avi 
and Jerusalem II.avi 2.avi respectively. That would make the quotes 
unnecessary... Like:

avimerge -o Jerusalem.avi -i 1.avi 2.avi

That will fix your avi's together....


Now not to confuse you further, but if you had two or more text files 
(plain old text, not .doc or .odt...) you can "stick them together" with 
the cat command.  Like:

cat text1.txt text2.txt text3.txt > combined.txt

OK.... So the file combined.txt has all three text files in the 
specified order all in one file.... Now for .mpg, .mpeg, and .vob files 
(Which are all MPEG compressed movies or video) you cannot use 
avimerge.... Just treat them as text files like above and use the cat 
command to stick these types of video together.

cat video1.mpg video2.mpg video3.mpg > combinedvideo.mpg

So... The "greater than sign" stands for redirecting the output to the 
file specified.  This overwrites the file as well.  Lets say you just 
combined three MPEG videos together and find out part 4 just came out 
and you want to add it to the final movie.  There's three ways to go 
about this and only one makes sense.  I'll list some examples:

Example 1:
    You can just go at it again:

cat video1.mpg video2.mpg video3.mpg video4.mpg > combinedvideo.mpg


    This makes no sense as you need to "start over" and parse through 
all of the first three videos again... You already did this the first time.

Example two:
    You can cat the combined.mpg and then the video4.mpg together but 
you better rename the combined.mpg file or it will destroy it.

cat combined.mpg video4.mpg > newcombined.mpg

    Again, you need to parse through the whole thing.... also you need 
to rename the output file... Still not a good idea.

Example 3: (And the correct way):
    Just tack the video4.mpg file onto the end of the combined.mpg file 
without overwriting it... How? use to >> together which appends w/o 
overwriting:

cat video4.mpg >> combined.mpg



Hope this helps.  Of course your movies are NOT MPEG video, so you can't 
simply cat them together.  You need to use avimerge!  But I explained 
the cat command because you asked.




From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan 16 13:37:19 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:37:19 -0400
Subject: privileges of mounting devices
References: <gkpif0$t36$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <f5f646-n63.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Pol wrote:

> Usb devices are automatically mounted with root privileges.

Not in my experience.  Default is to mount as the current user, so there 
must be some problem with your configuration.





From joelol75 at verizon.net  Fri Jan 16 13:58:51 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:58:51 -0500
Subject: How to switch from gnome to kde?
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901021112y384be249x599ff365f699c495@mail.gmail.com>
References: <495d5b4a.0735640a.728b.23ea@mx.google.com>	<200901012150.01601.gene.heskett@verizon.net>	<495D8BD6.1070303@fastmail.fm>	<200901012252.10172.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<b8d784880901021112y384be249x599ff365f699c495@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4970929B.9000201@verizon.net>

Jonas Norlander wrote:
>
>
> And kdm is writing a log at /var/log/kdm. Not much in it for me but
> perhaps it has some clues for you?
>
> / Jonas
>
>   

Also, if kdm is failing and you can't get it to work, try going back to gdm:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm

You can select which startup manager to run in a simple ncurses "pick one"

I would get your login manager (one or the other) working properly 
before worring about kde.  I also had to switch back to gdm after 
installing kubuntu-desktop because kdm didn't work for me (Awhile back, 
when it was still beta)  Doesn't matter which one as either will allow 
you to select gnome or KDE.






From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 14:01:30 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:01:30 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901160404m8860899ta5eaeeb351ece25e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901160655.12847.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901160404m8860899ta5eaeeb351ece25e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901160901.31117.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Have you tried cat instead of avimerge?

Dear Dotan,

I just love the archive.  I am going to use it a lot.  

Is the command you refer to:

$ cat file1.avi file2.avi > combined.avi

If so, I think I remember the problem I had.  Before I got any help, I created 
a method of finding the things that are stored inmy computer.  I have an Icon 
on the Desktop dropdown that opens with four choices:  

Document Folder
Home Folder
Storage Media
Remote Places
User Folders

I located stored items (no executables) on storage partitions.  When I clicked 
on the 'Storage Media' option, it opened a window that contained a list of my 
Storage Partitions.  They are sda5, sda7, sdb5, and a folder on the sda7 
partition that is called Completed Downloads.

Completed Downloads contains movies.  When I downloaded a movie, I used a 
torrent program.  They used various names for the files that contained movies 
that made it difficult to locate what you want to view, so I renamed them.  
Most of them were .avi files, however, some are .rar's.  In any event, 
whatever the name they used, I simplified it and renamed it just the name of 
the movie, with no file identity.  So, Ojerusalem.avi would become O 
Jerusalem.

Every effort to combine the two files into a single file, has failed.  The 
reason is because O Jerusalem is not a directory, I believe.  Since I don't 
remember the original identity of the files, I don't know how to rename them 
back to their original identity, if that is what is required to make them a 
directory.  Does this make any sense as to why the joining has not worked?

I sense I am going to frustrate you if I don't do my part better, but I at a 
loss what to do.

If the above mentioned command is the correct command, how do I identify word 
the entry for O Jerusalem I , and then again for, O Jerusalem II?  Do I enter 
the following:

$ cat "O Jerusalem I.avi""O Jerusalem II.avi" > combined.avi

Or since I don't have the .avi filetype as a part of the name of the file 
something I should leave off.

Here is what happened when I attempted that:

steven at Studio25:~$ cat "O Jerusalem I.avi""O Jerusalem II.avi" > combined.avi
cat: O Jerusalem I.aviO Jerusalem II.avi: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~$ cat "O Jerusalem I""O Jerusalem II" > combined.avi
cat: O Jerusalem IO Jerusalem II: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~$

The file O Jerusalem is located in the partition /media/sda7.  I don't know 
what /dev/sda7 is, but I think it is similar to /media/sda7.  Should one of 
those be added to the movie file name to get it recognized?

Using /media/sda7 may have worked.  The following is the result:

steven at Studio25:~$ cat /media/sda7 "O Jerusalem I.avi""O Jerusalem II.avi > 
combined.avi
>

It appears that something may have happened, because there are no negative 
comments, nonetheless, after I hit enter, the cursor just moved to the next 
line and nothing appears to have caused work to take place.  Yet that may be 
an indication that the work was performed.  If so, how do I find the combined 
file.  Will it be called O Jerusalem without the 'I' or 'II'?  Will it be 
located in the same place as when it was two separate files?

I have included all these possibilities to try to help you understand how I 
think in this process.  I hope it is understandable.  When I went to the sda7 
storage partition, I did not find a file named O Jerusalem without the part 
one or two.

Steven


 




From joelol75 at verizon.net  Fri Jan 16 14:01:54 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:01:54 -0500
Subject: Install / Boot issues
In-Reply-To: <e87f86070901120644x75758ff7v76f77aa8255ab6e3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e87f86070901062010t4ea01ab1mb69346c0b444f9b7@mail.gmail.com>	<b8d784880901070507o7a89bd36qf9b0ee94cc97a64e@mail.gmail.com>	<e87f86070901090650l9e49a97n40754eb0aaf816b@mail.gmail.com>	<b8d784880901120203i79ff56a7m2b2bb3bb0cd8b597@mail.gmail.com>
	<e87f86070901120644x75758ff7v76f77aa8255ab6e3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49709352.30807@verizon.net>

I would try the F6 option again, removing quiet and splash from the end 
and adding:

noapic nolapic

Many HP computers I installed on needed this to boot.



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 14:12:55 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:12:55 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901160502t60a72d78v79a65c7dd87628d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901160502t60a72d78v79a65c7dd87628d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901160912.56008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> No, but you should understand these two things before doing any command:
I have been experimenting so long, I am lost.  I have never known what I was 
doing.
> 1) What it does
> 2) Why you are doing it
Usually when people help, they just give you the code, without explanation.  
When I try to find it in a manual, I usually don't understand the manual.  
Occassionally, I will remember code that performs a result.  But when I need 
to reapply the instruction, I still do not know what or why it is doing what 
it does.  I simply know if it works or not.
>
> I saw several emails where you performed some "file" commands, do you
> know what they were for?
No
> Do you know what the exec commands were for?
No
> 
> I do not think that you would have done them if you know what they
> were for.
I want to know, however, when the help comes, I have trouble just keeping up 
with excuting the help.  Like now, there are a couple of other responses 
waiting after I finish with your help on this issue.

Always, even when getting help from the 'list', I do whatever anyone tells me.  
When the instruction solves the problem, I am happy, however, it doesn't mean 
that I know what happened.  I just know that it is fixed.  I then save that 
email in a 'code' folder in case the problem reoccurs.  I have always been 
alone without anyone to talk with while learning, so most of the time, I 
don't know how to ask a proper question.  The 'list' has been more helpful 
than any experience I have had while trying to learn.  I am amazed how you 
all seem to move from thought to thought always seeming to know what you are 
doing, but no one has ever been willing to tell me how they learned what they 
know.  So I continue to experiment.

I really believe if I knew what an exec command was all about, for instance, I 
think I would progress.  What should I do?

Steven
>
> > Just before I read this email, I
> > attempted a process that involved downloading and installing a package
> > called transcode.  After installing the package I entered and got the
> > following result:
>
> Why transcode? Do you realize what that will do to your videos?
>
> > Shoot, Dotan, you know my limitations.  I have to trust you guys and make
> > the steps as advised.  I don't know what happened to the command.  It
> > doesn't look like what I typed into the terminal.
>
> Don't trust any command that you do not know what it will do! You can
> easily do a lot of damage that way. Especially if the good-intentioned
> author of the command made a mistake, typo, or assumed something that
> he should not have assumed. It happens _often_.
>
> >>Then just cat them together, using quotes around the filenames because of
> >> the spaces. I posted the correct command earlier.
> >
> > I have attempted so many commands that I am confused now.  I don't
> > remember the correct post you mention, however, I have cut and pasted (to
> > keep from making an error) everything I have tried, and nothing has had a
> > positive result so far.  Additionally, I don't understand the term 'cat
> > them together'.  I will google that term when I finish reading the posts.
>
> To "cat them together" use the "cat" command to merge the files:
>
> $ cat file1.avi file2.avi > output.avi
>
> "cat": the name of the command
> "file1.avi file2.avi": the list of files to be combined
> ">": output pipe
> "output.avi": the name of the output file
>
> For you, I assume this is what you need:
> $ cd /media/sda7/
> $ cat "O Jerusalem I" "O Jerusalem II" > "O Jerusalem"
>
> It is an exersize for the reader to determine what the first command does.
>
> > Thanks for your patience.
>
> Other people are as patient with me when I ask similar questions on
> this list. It's how we help each other!
>
> --
> Dotan Cohen
>
> http://what-is-what.com
> http://gibberish.co.il
>
> א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
> ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
> А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
> а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
> ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü





From joelol75 at verizon.net  Fri Jan 16 14:13:42 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:13:42 -0500
Subject: Grub help needed
In-Reply-To: <200812181614.37633.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <200812171758.38463.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com>	<49498612.30202@gmail.com>	<200812180701.41588.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com>
	<200812181614.37633.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <49709616.9070400@verizon.net>

Bruce Marshall wrote:
> On Thursday 18 December 2008, Ralph DeWitt wrote:
>   
>> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
>> # on /dev/sda1
>> title           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
>> root            (hd0,0)
>> savedefault
>> makeactive
>> chainloader     +1
>>     
>
> Can you verify that Windows is on the first partition of the first HD?
>
>   
Also Windows needs to be a basic partition (Whether primary or 
extended)... If you messed around in the Control Panel/Adminitrator 
tools/Disk Management and converted the Windows partition to "Dynamic 
Partition" this will cause problems as well.





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 14:34:56 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:34:56 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901160934.56770.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Friday 16 January 2009 8:41:14 am Joel Oliver wrote:
> sudo apt-get install avifile-utils
Thanks Joel.  I have installed avifile-utils.  I don't think that my movie 
files  are in a directory.  When I set up where I keep the movies, I did not  
know how to do it properly; I did not have access to any help.  I just 
experimented.

Here is what I did.  There is an Icon on my Desktop dropdown that contains:

Document Folder
Home Folder
Storage Media
Remote Places
User Folders

I use this to find stuff I have saved.  When I clicked on 'Storage Media', it 
would show the various storage partitions in my computer.  For example sda5, 
sda7, sdb5.  Each contains stuff.  sda7 contains movies.  It also contains a 
folder that holds DownloadedMovies and a folder that contains Favoritemovies, 
so that I can click on one of them and go directly there.  Whenever I attempt 
code that is provided me, the computer always says that it is either not a 
directory of not a file.  By the time I get a response from my attempt, I am 
not fresh with memory, so I don't remember accurately what has happened.

Now that I am ready to apply your next instruction, I am pretty sure that the 
command will fail, because I have never created a directory.  In fact I am 
not sure what or how a directory differs from a file.  All of the movies were 
simply saved to a partition, not to a directory on a partition.  I have a 
feeling that is my problem, but I don't even know how to talk about that 
possibility.  If you can understand what I am trying to say, acknowledge and 
please tell me what to do?

I am looking at your next instruction:

avimerge -o outputfile.avi -i inputfile1.avi inputfile2.avi 
inputfile3.avi etc.

I can remember vaguely that I would see information on the konsole that 
included what things like -o and what it 

would do; I am guessing it would involve a manual entry, however if I wanted 
to find out about the -o after avimerge, would I type man avimerge in the 
terminal?  And if that is correct, when it opens, everything is listed there, 
but once I have read it all, there doesn't seem to be a way to get back to a 
place to make an entry.  To get a konsole with a place to type in data, I 
have to close the man page terminal and reopen it.  After I send my reply, I 
will open a konsole and type in man avimerge and see if it works.  You see 
everything I do is experimental.  I never really know what I am doing.

Steven
 



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 14:37:10 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:37:10 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901160937.11125.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Friday 16 January 2009 8:41:14 am Joel Oliver wrote:
> avimerge -o outputfile.avi -i inputfile1.avi inputfile2.avi
> inputfile3.avi etc.

Now that I know that the -o means the name of an output file, what is the 
output file for my movie, O Jerusalem I and O Jerusalem II that I want to 
merge together?

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 14:39:30 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:39:30 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901160939.31023.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Friday 16 January 2009 8:41:14 am Joel Oliver wrote:
> avimerge -o outputfile.avi -i inputfile1.avi inputfile2.avi
> inputfile3.avi etc.

Would it be something like this:

avimerge -o "O Jerusalem.avi" -i "O Jerusalem I.avi""O Jerusalem II.avi" > 
inputfile3.avi etc.

steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 14:43:31 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:43:31 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901160943.31629.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Friday 16 January 2009 8:41:14 am Joel Oliver wrote:
> avimerge -o outputfile.avi -i inputfile1.avi inputfile2.avi
> inputfile3.avi etc.

PLEASE FORGIVE ME.   I was replying to your email at the point I first got 
confused.  I did not read the whole email.  I am old and forgetful.  I never 
got to the rest of the email until now.  Please stop answering my rediculous 
emails until I have finished your very well explained first email.

I am very sorry and feel quite stupid.  But that is my normal.  Thank you for 
your patience.  I fear what you must be thinking.

Steven



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 14:50:55 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:50:55 +0200
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901160155wbf2bb22qe05890d5e804f664@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901160650s7cf36c46rc5e757fcb592e391@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/16 Joel Oliver <joelol75 at verizon.net>:
>
>>
>> I have attempted so many commands that I am confused now.  I don't remember
>> the correct post you mention, however, I have cut and pasted (to keep from
>> making an error) everything I have tried, and nothing has had a positive
>> result so far.  Additionally, I don't understand the term 'cat them
>> together'.  I will google that term when I finish reading the posts.
>>
>> Thanks for your patience.
>>
>> Steven
>>
>>
> You can't cat (concatenate) .avi files (which you have)  You must use
> avimerge (part of avifile-utils I believe) You need to install this
> program first to get avimerge. So:
>
> sudo apt-get install avifile-utils
>
> OK, now cd to the directory that the two .avi files are in and run the
> command:
>
> avimerge -o outputfile.avi -i inputfile1.avi inputfile2.avi
> inputfile3.avi etc.
>
> thats -o and -i the letter meaning the file "outputfile.avi" will be the
> combined files of the input files (Can be two, three, ten....)
>
> A good habit would be to enclose the filenames in quotes because your
> filenames have spaces in them.  Or just goto the directory with the two
> files and rename them.  Like make the Jerusalem I.avi file just 1.avi
> and Jerusalem II.avi 2.avi respectively. That would make the quotes
> unnecessary... Like:
>
> avimerge -o Jerusalem.avi -i 1.avi 2.avi
>
> That will fix your avi's together....
>
>
> Now not to confuse you further, but if you had two or more text files
> (plain old text, not .doc or .odt...) you can "stick them together" with
> the cat command.  Like:
>
> cat text1.txt text2.txt text3.txt > combined.txt
>
> OK.... So the file combined.txt has all three text files in the
> specified order all in one file.... Now for .mpg, .mpeg, and .vob files
> (Which are all MPEG compressed movies or video) you cannot use
> avimerge.... Just treat them as text files like above and use the cat
> command to stick these types of video together.
>
> cat video1.mpg video2.mpg video3.mpg > combinedvideo.mpg
>
> So... The "greater than sign" stands for redirecting the output to the
> file specified.  This overwrites the file as well.  Lets say you just
> combined three MPEG videos together and find out part 4 just came out
> and you want to add it to the final movie.  There's three ways to go
> about this and only one makes sense.  I'll list some examples:
>
> Example 1:
>    You can just go at it again:
>
> cat video1.mpg video2.mpg video3.mpg video4.mpg > combinedvideo.mpg
>
>
>    This makes no sense as you need to "start over" and parse through
> all of the first three videos again... You already did this the first time.
>
> Example two:
>    You can cat the combined.mpg and then the video4.mpg together but
> you better rename the combined.mpg file or it will destroy it.
>
> cat combined.mpg video4.mpg > newcombined.mpg
>
>    Again, you need to parse through the whole thing.... also you need
> to rename the output file... Still not a good idea.
>
> Example 3: (And the correct way):
>    Just tack the video4.mpg file onto the end of the combined.mpg file
> without overwriting it... How? use to >> together which appends w/o
> overwriting:
>
> cat video4.mpg >> combined.mpg
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.  Of course your movies are NOT MPEG video, so you can't
> simply cat them together.  You need to use avimerge!  But I explained
> the cat command because you asked.
>

Thank you for the explanation, Joel. Note that there _are_ formats in
the avi container that can be concatenated, such as those produced by
my Fuji 5500 digital camera.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 15:00:23 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:00:23 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901161000.24323.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Friday 16 January 2009 8:41:14 am Joel Oliver wrote:
> avimerge -o outputfile.avi -i inputfile1.avi inputfile2.avi
> inputfile3.avi etc.

Dear Joel,

Thank you for your patience.  I think I understand now.  How do I create the 
outputfile.avi?  Does that happen when I type in a name for an output file 
while attempting this procedure?  For example:

avimerge -o "O Jerusalem.avi" -i 1.avi 2.avi

After this is done, where do I find the combined file?  Is it a separate file 
in the storage partition.  This is where I think I have a problem.  I think 
all my movies are on a partition and not in a directory.  I never made a 
folder on the partition that holds movies; there are nothing but movies on 
the partition.  So when I attempt to make the process happen whether by your 
method or by the method of one of the others who is trying to help me, I get 
a response to the entry as Not a directory or Not a folder.  Do I need to 
make a folder (directory) on the partition, put all the movies in that folder 
or directory to be able to have the instruction to work?

How does a directory differ from a folder?  On the sda7 partition I have a 
folder that is called Favorite Downloads; it contains my favorite movies.  Is 
that folder actually a directory?  To locate it on a konsole, would I type 
in:  /media/sda7/"Favorite Downloads"?

steven



From doc.evans at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 15:28:20 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:28:20 -0700
Subject: Can't Install Kubuntu 8.10 Properly - HELP!!
In-Reply-To: <20090115234304.793fcc30@graham-desktop>
References: <20090108153026.484f4bda@graham-desktop>	<49667380.4060903@gmail.com>	<20090112203110.7c78ce48@graham-desktop>	<20090114160728.2f605574@graham-desktop>	<496F6174.4060000@gmail.com>
	<20090115234304.793fcc30@graham-desktop>
Message-ID: <4970A794.8070002@gmail.com>

Here's what I suggested. No guarantees of course, but it's what I would
have tried were I in your position, given my experience with blank screen=
s
at log on with 8.10.

----

What happens if you go to the console? Can you log in that way?

And if you can log in, then I suggest you try the following:

  1. go to ~/.kde/share/config
  2. in kwinrc, set Enabled=3Dfalse in the [Compositing] section.
  3. Reboot

If you can't log in, what messages (if any) are on the console?

----

 Doc


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Web:  http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR

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From basroufs at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 15:28:39 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:28:39 +0100
Subject: Is it possible to manually activate an eth0 connection?
In-Reply-To: <200901161349.11549.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <c638edc20901141327kb024ea7t7e153838099efd96@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901160949.03324.kassube@gmx.net>
	<c638edc20901160249m37352ee5qc48230ed8bc5da31@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901161349.11549.kassube@gmx.net>
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(Snip)
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
> auto eth1
> iface eth1 inet static
> address 192.168.1.20
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 192.18.1.1

> At least the last line is wrong. The gateway should be 192.168.1.1 (168
> instead of 18) if that is really the case.

The webconfigurator page of the router which I use to connect my
computers to the ISP, reveals the following "Default Gateway":
82.169.255.254.  See list below. Could this be the 'gateway'
information we are looking for?

> However I'm not sure that simply using a static setup with (more or
> less) random numbers is the right approach at all.

This is a good point. However, the codes 'address' and 'netmask'
consist of figures revealed by ifconf-tests. Even the names like
'eth0' and 'eth1' have been revealed by networkmanager and different
tests running via terminal.

>
> In the first mail of this thread you wrote that you want to connect the
> interface to an ethernet modem. I'm not sure what you mean with
> ethernet modem, but is it perhaps a DSL modem? Then the setup above
> would be totally wrong and you would have to run pppoeconf or
> someother program  to connect to your DSL provider. I think there is a
> graphical interface in knetworkmanager which is probably easier to use
> than the command line
> tool. Or is it a DSL router? Then the setup above might be right
> depending on the type of router. Can you please tell us the type of
> device (manufacturer / model name) you want to connect to your
> laptop?

The  name of the device is 'Zyxel Prestige 2000 series'. It is a
router which is the connection between my ISP and my computers. The
router has 4 access points for RJ-45 connectors and cables.  The 'Web
configurator' of this modem reveals the following technical basic
information:

System Status

System Name: adsl-modem
ZyNOS F/W Version: V3.40(MU.3)D0 | 05/04/2005
DSL FW Version:TI AR7 01.01.08.00
Standard:ADSL_G.dmt

WAN Information

IP Address:82.169.250.209
IP Subnet Mask:255.255.224.0
Default Gateway:82.169.255.254
VPI/VCI:0/ 34

LAN Information

MAC Address:00:13:49:1c:ec:0a
IP Address: 192.168.1.254
IP Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
DHCP: Server
DHCP Start IP: 192.168.1.33
DHCP Pool Size: 32

DHCP Table
========
Host Name: Viaconsensus1

IP Address: 192.168.1.33

MAC Address: 00-13-D3-90-EE-C2

> Are you using the same device with another machine?

Yes - the desktop PC from which I am sending this message.

>
> Finally another thought: Are you sure the cable to the ethernet modem is
> OK? Can you check the cable between other devices?

Recently, I did use the cable between 2 other devices - it functioned
at that moment. It is a new cable, bought only  few months ago.

However, I am not really sure whether the RJ-45 access point of my
laptop is adequate. That is why, I also examine another way I can use
this cable: to connect it to a ethernet PCMCIA card, with a special
ethernet RJ45 interface. This results in a connection 'eth1' according
to both KNETWORKMANAGER and pppoeconf. According to KNETWORKMANAGER,
the connection status of eth1 at the laptop is 'active' now. However,
the pppoeconf test for eth1 also fails. Also via a browser, I do not
manage yet to reach internet from the laptop.

Thanks everybody for all your efforts so far. I have to leave now for
an appointment. I will come back and resume this technical work on
Sunday.

Respectfully Yours,

Bas Roufs.


-- 
===============
Viaconsensus
Bas G. Roufs M.A.
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
===============



From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk  Fri Jan 16 15:30:01 2009
From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:30:01 +0000
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
In-Reply-To: <200901161016.31969.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <20090112164929.69a652c3.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
	<20090112201741.6b43d7db.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
	<20090114144143.73f2dc47.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
	<200901161016.31969.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090116153001.4cbb342c.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>

On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:16:31 +0200
Georgi Kourtev <gkourtev at gmail.com> wrote:

GK> I did the update to KDE 4.1.4 incl the updates to OO. The problem is
GK> still  there. Even more -- as soon as it appears, it freezes the
GK> system. gk

Not the same problem I think. OO does now start up, but the menus (at
least the file menus) don't work right (and seize control of the mouse
pointer). The other difference is that it
occurs with both Intrepid & Hardy whereas before, it worked OK on Hardy.

[FWIW on Hardy a combination of Ctrl-Tab & Alt-Tab can get you to a
terminal window to do a "killall soffice", on Intrepid I had to do
Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get to the Console to do it].

-- 
+------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+
| James Tappin           | School of Physics & Astronomy |  O__    |
| sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham      | --  \/` |
| Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722                  |         |
+--------------------------------------------------------+---------+



From kassube at gmx.net  Fri Jan 16 16:10:17 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:10:17 +0100
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901161000.24323.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
	<200901161000.24323.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901161710.17909.kassube@gmx.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Friday 16 January 2009 8:41:14 am Joel Oliver wrote:
> > avimerge -o outputfile.avi -i inputfile1.avi inputfile2.avi
> > inputfile3.avi etc.
>
> Thank you for your patience.  I think I understand now.  How do I
> create the outputfile.avi?  Does that happen when I type in a name for
> an output file while attempting this procedure?  For example:
>
> avimerge -o "O Jerusalem.avi" -i 1.avi 2.avi

Here is a customized sequence of commands:

cd /media/sda7
avimerge -o "O Jerusalem.avi" -i "O Jerusalem I" "O Jerusalem II"

You will find the output file "O Jerusalem.avi" in the 
directory "/media/sda7", i.e. the same directory where the original files 
are now. Actually I didn't test the command sequence but it is more or 
less what Matt Flaschen posted earlier today (or was it yesterday in your 
time zone?).

However I think it would be much easier for you to use a graphical tool 
instead of the command line. Then you avoid all the quoting problems and 
Copy/paste from your email client which may have inserted line breaks to 
the commands. Then you select the input / output files with the graphical 
file selection tool where you know how to navigate to the appropriate 
directories.

You can install the package "avidemux" or "avidemux-qt" and you will find 
the program in K-menu -> Multimedia.


Nils



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Fri Jan 16 16:21:13 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:21:13 +0100
Subject: Is it possible to manually activate an eth0 connection?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901160728g3c66356fv337226f34bdcad69@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901141327kb024ea7t7e153838099efd96@mail.gmail.com>	<200901160949.03324.kassube@gmx.net>	<c638edc20901160249m37352ee5qc48230ed8bc5da31@mail.gmail.com>	<200901161349.11549.kassube@gmx.net>
	<c638edc20901160728g3c66356fv337226f34bdcad69@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gkqc5o$ku6$1@ger.gmane.org>

Bas Roufs wrote:
> 
> The webconfigurator page of the router which I use to connect my
> computers to the ISP, reveals the following "Default Gateway":
> 82.169.255.254.  See list below. Could this be the 'gateway'
> information we are looking for?
No, this is not your internal default gateway.

This most probably is the default gateway of your router, i.e. the next 
computer, located at your isp, that your router connects to when looking 
for internet.

> 
> The  name of the device is 'Zyxel Prestige 2000 series'. It is a
> router which is the connection between my ISP and my computers. The
> router has 4 access points for RJ-45 connectors and cables.  The 'Web
> configurator' of this modem reveals the following technical basic
> information:
> 
> System Status
> 
> System Name: adsl-modem
> ZyNOS F/W Version: V3.40(MU.3)D0 | 05/04/2005
> DSL FW Version:TI AR7 01.01.08.00
> Standard:ADSL_G.dmt
> 
> WAN Information
> 
> IP Address:82.169.250.209
> IP Subnet Mask:255.255.224.0
> Default Gateway:82.169.255.254
> VPI/VCI:0/ 34
> 
> LAN Information
> 
> MAC Address:00:13:49:1c:ec:0a
> IP Address: 192.168.1.254

This is the internal (=LAN) address of your router, so THIS is the 
default gateway for all the computers that are connected via your 4 
RJ-45 connectors.


> IP Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> DHCP: Server
> DHCP Start IP: 192.168.1.33
> DHCP Pool Size: 32
> 
> DHCP Table
> ========
> Host Name: Viaconsensus1
> 
> IP Address: 192.168.1.33
> 
> MAC Address: 00-13-D3-90-EE-C2

This is the IP Adress of your desktop (which the machine got via dhcp 
and its MAC Address.

Regards
Eberhard




From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 16 16:36:48 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:36:48 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901160404m8860899ta5eaeeb351ece25e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>
	<49703C39.6020305@gatech.edu>	<200901160655.12847.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901160404m8860899ta5eaeeb351ece25e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4970B7A0.2070700@gatech.edu>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/16 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
>> On Friday 16 January 2009 2:50:17 am Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>>> "/media/sda7/O Jerusalem II"
>> Here is the result.  I think the names of the files is the problem, however, I
>> am not sure how to rename them so that they will work.  Is that a
>> possibility?  Do you have a recommendation for how to rename the files?
>>
>> steven at Studio25:~$ avimerge -o "/media/sda7/Jerusalem.avi" -i "/media/sda7/O
> 
> Have you tried cat instead of avimerge? Depending on the format of the
> video (avi is just a container) it may work. Actually, it is more than
> likely to work. Look back a few emails for the proper command,
> including cding into the proper directory.

No, it won't (http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/faq.html#SEC30).  You can not
cat avi's, and I'm not really clear why you would suggest it without
even a basic test.

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 16 16:42:06 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:42:06 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901160502t60a72d78v79a65c7dd87628d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901160155wbf2bb22qe05890d5e804f664@mail.gmail.com>	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901160502t60a72d78v79a65c7dd87628d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4970B8DE.5070200@gatech.edu>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> I saw several emails where you performed some "file" commands, do you
> know what they were for? Do you know what the exec commands were for?
> I do not think that you would have done them if you know what they
> were for.

Why not?  If he hadn't run them, we would not know what kind of video
the files were, nor even if they were fragments or self-contained.

> Why transcode? Do you realize what that will do to your videos?

Do you, Dotan?  It sure doesn't seem that way.  avimerge does not cause
any significant change in quality.

> Don't trust any command that you do not know what it will do! You can
> easily do a lot of damage that way.

Exactly how is file or find dangerous?

> To "cat them together" use the "cat" command to merge the files:
> 
> $ cat file1.avi file2.avi > output.avi
> 
> "cat": the name of the command
> "file1.avi file2.avi": the list of files to be combined
> ">": output pipe
> "output.avi": the name of the output file

Again, this is flat-out wrong.

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 16 16:43:21 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:43:21 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901160912.56008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901160502t60a72d78v79a65c7dd87628d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901160912.56008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4970B929.4020901@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I really believe if I knew what an exec command was all about, for instance, I 
> think I would progress.  What should I do?

If you don't understand a command, just ask (or read documentation).  I
am trying to help efficiently, not put one over on you.

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 16 16:45:22 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:45:22 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901160155wbf2bb22qe05890d5e804f664@mail.gmail.com>	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4970B9A2.5090908@gatech.edu>

Joel Oliver wrote:
> You can't cat (concatenate) .avi files (which you have)  You must use 
> avimerge (part of avifile-utils I believe) 

Actually, the transcode package, like I said.

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 16 16:45:59 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:45:59 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901160937.11125.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
	<200901160937.11125.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4970B9C7.4070803@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Friday 16 January 2009 8:41:14 am Joel Oliver wrote:
>> avimerge -o outputfile.avi -i inputfile1.avi inputfile2.avi
>> inputfile3.avi etc.
> 
> Now that I know that the -o means the name of an output file, what is the 
> output file for my movie, O Jerusalem I and O Jerusalem II that I want to 
> merge together?

Doesn't matter.  Choose something simple, like Jerusalem.avi

Matt



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 16 16:51:22 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:51:22 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901160939.31023.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
	<200901160939.31023.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4970BB0A.8030905@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Friday 16 January 2009 8:41:14 am Joel Oliver wrote:
>> avimerge -o outputfile.avi -i inputfile1.avi inputfile2.avi
>> inputfile3.avi etc.
> 
> Would it be something like this:
> 
> avimerge -o "O Jerusalem.avi" -i "O Jerusalem I.avi""O Jerusalem II.avi" > 
> inputfile3.avi etc.

No.  DO NOT use cat, or the redirection operator (>) for this.  It /will
not work/.  You have received a lot of confusing and inaccurate advice
on this.

It would be:

cd /media/sda7/
avimerge -o O_Jerusalem.avi -i "O Jerusalem I" "O Jerusalem II"

The underscore relieves us of the need to quote.  The two input files do
not have avi extension.  Also note the spacing is important.  Do not
change any spaces.

Matt Flaschen




From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 16 16:57:01 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:57:01 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901160154p13b45ad6r5ad35db455634b49@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901142345s2e016bbara9a20e28594c9de3@mail.gmail.com>	<200901150806.34964.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<gkng2v$dso$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<496FC0E7.2070501@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901160154p13b45ad6r5ad35db455634b49@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4970BC5D.9000207@gatech.edu>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/sda7/"0 Jerusalem I"
>> /media/sda7/0 Jerusalem I: ERROR: cannot open `/media/sda7/0 Jerusalem
>> I' (No such file or directory)
>> steven at Studio25:~$ file /media/sda7/"0 Jerusalem II"
>> /media/sda7/0 Jerusalem II: ERROR: cannot open `/media/sda7/0 Jerusalem
>> II' (No such file or directory)
>> steven at Studio25:~$
> 
> As you see, you cannot quote only part of the path with quotes.

Actually, you can.  That particular error is because he substituted 0
(zero) for O (oh).

Matt Flaschen



From atrypa at eskimo.com  Fri Jan 16 17:09:05 2009
From: atrypa at eskimo.com (Wendell Cochran)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:09:05 -0800
Subject: Help for Steven
Message-ID: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>

> I really believe if I knew what an exec command was all about, for
instance, I think I would progress.  What should I do? -- Steven


I think Steven is neglecting basics.

Many good tutorials & HOWTOs are easily found via Google.

List members who have helped Steven most can best recommend URLs
that best fit his needs. 

Suggestions?


Meanwhile, consider a few little books:

Learning the UNIX Operating System
Jerry Peek et al.
4e 1998  O'Reilly
92 p.
(Later editions seem bloated.)

Linux Pocket Guide
Daniel J. Barrett
2004 O'Reilly
191 p.
(Slanted toward Fedora, but that can be ignored.)

Linux Phrasebook
Scott Granneman
2006 Sams
382 p.
(Examples throughout.)

Teach Yourself Linux
Robert Billing
2004 McGraw-Hill
187 p.
(Concise, practical, readable.)

(The order of titles is random.)

In this decade I've read each book four times -- in buses, barber
shops, waiting rooms, bed.  I'm still reading 'em, & I'm still
learning.

Roughly $10 each.

For the most titles, lowest prices, & best service (in my experience)
try:

http://www.bookpool.com/

Wendell Cochran  
West Seattle




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 17:19:57 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:19:57 +0200
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <4970B8DE.5070200@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901160155wbf2bb22qe05890d5e804f664@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901160502t60a72d78v79a65c7dd87628d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4970B8DE.5070200@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <880dece00901160919p193907bcm45663ba03e7f0350@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/16 Matthew Flaschen <matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu>:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> I saw several emails where you performed some "file" commands, do you
>> know what they were for? Do you know what the exec commands were for?
>> I do not think that you would have done them if you know what they
>> were for.
>
> Why not?  If he hadn't run them, we would not know what kind of video
> the files were, nor even if they were fragments or self-contained.
>

We already knew from a previous email what type of files they were.

>> Why transcode? Do you realize what that will do to your videos?
>
> Do you, Dotan?  It sure doesn't seem that way.  avimerge does not cause
> any significant change in quality.
>

I do not know about 'significant' but if one could avoid reencoding
lossy formats, then it should be avoided.

>> Don't trust any command that you do not know what it will do! You can
>> easily do a lot of damage that way.
>
> Exactly how is file or find dangerous?
>

I was not referring specifically to file or find.

>> To "cat them together" use the "cat" command to merge the files:
>>
>> $ cat file1.avi file2.avi > output.avi
>>
>> "cat": the name of the command
>> "file1.avi file2.avi": the list of files to be combined
>> ">": output pipe
>> "output.avi": the name of the output file
>
> Again, this is flat-out wrong.
>

What is wrong here? If you can teach me, then teach me. I do not claim
to know all, in fact, I claim to know very little. Where did I err?

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From tuxebi at gmx.de  Fri Jan 16 17:20:24 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:20:24 +0100
Subject: Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>
References: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <gkqfkn$2ta$1@ger.gmane.org>

Wendell Cochran wrote:
>> I really believe if I knew what an exec command was all about, for
> instance, I think I would progress.  What should I do? -- Steven
> 
> 
> I think Steven is neglecting basics.
> 
> Many good tutorials & HOWTOs are easily found via Google.
> 
> List members who have helped Steven most can best recommend URLs
> that best fit his needs. 
> 
> Suggestions?
> 
> 
> Meanwhile, consider a few little books:
> 
> Learning the UNIX Operating System
> Jerry Peek et al.
> 4e 1998  O'Reilly
> 92 p.
> (Later editions seem bloated.)
> 
> Linux Pocket Guide
> Daniel J. Barrett
> 2004 O'Reilly
> 191 p.
> (Slanted toward Fedora, but that can be ignored.)
> 
> Linux Phrasebook
> Scott Granneman
> 2006 Sams
> 382 p.
> (Examples throughout.)
> 
> Teach Yourself Linux
> Robert Billing
> 2004 McGraw-Hill
> 187 p.
> (Concise, practical, readable.)
> 
> (The order of titles is random.)
> 
> In this decade I've read each book four times -- in buses, barber
> shops, waiting rooms, bed.  I'm still reading 'em, & I'm still
> learning.
> 
> Roughly $10 each.
> 
> For the most titles, lowest prices, & best service (in my experience)
> try:
> 
> http://www.bookpool.com/
> 
Wendell, thany much for theses helpful hints,

Imho also very helpful is google, not only to look for book and 
tutorials, but also to provide an answer to almost any linux question.

Especially good for this task: http://www.google.com/linux

I am using it all the time.

Kind regards
Eberhard




From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 17:36:20 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:36:20 +0200
Subject: Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>
References: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00901160936g2ca3a383r2eceb30f63dbdefd@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/16 Wendell Cochran <atrypa at eskimo.com>:
> Many good tutorials & HOWTOs are easily found via Google.
>

I have been reading this blog which has started doing Linux tutorials lately:
http://ghacks.net

The guy who writes the tutorials seems to be on a
beginner-intermediate level so he doesn't come off with the Guru
attitude that most other places have. I also recommend searching the
Fedora and Debian archives, they are full of really good stuff.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From kassube at gmx.net  Fri Jan 16 17:41:39 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:41:39 +0100
Subject: Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>
References: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>
Message-ID: <200901161841.39407.kassube@gmx.net>

Wendell Cochran wrote:
> I think Steven is neglecting basics.
> Many good tutorials & HOWTOs are easily found via Google.
> List members who have helped Steven most can best recommend URLs
> that best fit his needs.
> Suggestions?
>
> Meanwhile, consider a few little books:
[list of books]
> Roughly $10 each.

Probably Steven can't afford them - according to what he wrote some time 
ago he doesn't have enough cash. Therefore, here is one available for 
free from the Ubuntu repositories. Install the package "rutebook" and 
start reading at /usr/share/doc/rutebook/html/index.html with your 
favourite browser.


Nils



From tycho at tycho.ws  Fri Jan 16 18:00:01 2009
From: tycho at tycho.ws (Tycho Andersen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:00:01 -0600
Subject: Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <gkqfkn$2ta$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com> <gkqfkn$2ta$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <49b3a7400901161000w1fdb845ekd084eb8d71068ba3@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Eberhard Roloff <tuxebi at gmx.de> wrote:
> http://www.google.com/linux

Woah, thanks. I didn't know such a thing existed.

Tycho

--
http://tycho.ws



From phantom21 at mindspring.com  Fri Jan 16 18:13:39 2009
From: phantom21 at mindspring.com (Mark Halegua)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:13:39 -0500
Subject: Epson and HP Scanner
Message-ID: <200901161313.39838.phantom21@mindspring.com>

Can anyone on the list tell me which scanners from Epson and HP they've used 
on Ubuntu/Kubuntu?

I'm looking for an inexpensive scanner priced up to $150 with a good 
resolution.

I've looked at the SANE pages and other places, but most of the info seems 
old, so any help here is appreciated.

Thanks,

Mark



From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Fri Jan 16 18:28:15 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:28:15 -0800
Subject: Epson and HP Scanner
In-Reply-To: <200901161313.39838.phantom21@mindspring.com>
References: <200901161313.39838.phantom21@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <200901161028.15896.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Friday 16 January 2009 10:13:39 am Mark Halegua wrote:
> Can anyone on the list tell me which scanners from Epson and HP they've
> used on Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
>
> I'm looking for an inexpensive scanner priced up to $150 with a good
> resolution.

You might take a look at the HP j6480.  It didn't take much to get it working 
wirelessly as a network printer/scanner/fax with my laptops!  All are either 
Ubuntu or Kubuntu, we have no windoze machines.  In fact they are completely 
banned in our office!  I got the all-in-one for $139.00 and am very happy so 
far.




-- 
73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n><   PDGA# 35276
http://the-inner-circle.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 18:42:28 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:42:28 +0200
Subject: Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <200901161841.39407.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>
	<200901161841.39407.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901161042j7174323ej256c8f16d4d7ca6@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/16 Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net>:
> Install the package "rutebook" and
> start reading at /usr/share/doc/rutebook/html/index.html with your
> favourite browser.
>

Woah, thanks. I didn't know such a thing existed.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From kassube at gmx.net  Fri Jan 16 19:02:14 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:02:14 +0100
Subject: Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901161042j7174323ej256c8f16d4d7ca6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>
	<200901161841.39407.kassube@gmx.net>
	<880dece00901161042j7174323ej256c8f16d4d7ca6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901162002.14916.kassube@gmx.net>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/16 Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net>:
> > Install the package "rutebook" and
> > start reading at /usr/share/doc/rutebook/html/index.html with your
> > favourite browser.
>
> Woah, thanks. I didn't know such a thing existed.

What? Where have you been last year? :)

It has been mentioned several times on the ubuntu-users list and maybe 
here as well.


Nils



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 19:14:32 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:14:32 +0200
Subject: Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <200901162002.14916.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>
	<200901161841.39407.kassube@gmx.net>
	<880dece00901161042j7174323ej256c8f16d4d7ca6@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901162002.14916.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00901161114r581e3964hffbf5c9b8dc8f03d@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/16 Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net>:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> 2009/1/16 Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net>:
>> > Install the package "rutebook" and
>> > start reading at /usr/share/doc/rutebook/html/index.html with your
>> > favourite browser.
>>
>> Woah, thanks. I didn't know such a thing existed.
>
> What? Where have you been last year? :)
>
> It has been mentioned several times on the ubuntu-users list and maybe
> here as well.
>

I don't read every thread, and somehow I seem to have avoided the good ones!


-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Fri Jan 16 19:55:56 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:55:56 +0200
Subject: Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901161114r581e3964hffbf5c9b8dc8f03d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>	<200901161841.39407.kassube@gmx.net>	<880dece00901161042j7174323ej256c8f16d4d7ca6@mail.gmail.com>	<200901162002.14916.kassube@gmx.net>
	<880dece00901161114r581e3964hffbf5c9b8dc8f03d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4970E64C.2010406@gmail.com>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/16 Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net>:
>> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>>> 2009/1/16 Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net>:
>>>> Install the package "rutebook" and
>>>> start reading at /usr/share/doc/rutebook/html/index.html with your
>>>> favourite browser.
>>> Woah, thanks. I didn't know such a thing existed.
>> What? Where have you been last year? :)
>>
>> It has been mentioned several times on the ubuntu-users list and maybe
>> here as well.
>>
> 
> I don't read every thread, and somehow I seem to have avoided the good ones!
> 
> 
Also to be not forgotten ubuntuforums.org - so much info to be found 
there. Actually makes the kubuntuforums quite pointless, sadly to say.

Example: this week I installed a Linksys wireless printserver for a 
company who wants a 100 wireless system in a building but could find no 
w/less printer. Instructions all relating to Windows XP or earlier. 
Vista, Linux, Mac? Got it working for XP but have 3 linux users. Googled 
around, no good answers. Found a link on ubuntuforums.org telling me 
EXACTLY how to do and it was way easier than windows. Where I first have 
to attach printer via usb and install it, then put printer pack on 
wireless, install wireless server-driver and configure it to take over 
installed printer driver. Linux - go for ipp net printer in install, 
type correct url (ok not all that easy w/o help) and choose printer. 
Thats it.





From kaj at haulrich.net  Fri Jan 16 22:14:14 2009
From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:14:14 +0100
Subject: Epson and HP Scanner
In-Reply-To: <200901161028.15896.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901161313.39838.phantom21@mindspring.com>
	<200901161028.15896.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <200901162314.14808.kaj@haulrich.net>

On Friday 16 January 2009 19:28:15 Pastor JW wrote:
> On Friday 16 January 2009 10:13:39 am Mark Halegua wrote:
> > Can anyone on the list tell me which scanners from Epson and HP they've
> > used on Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
> >
> > I'm looking for an inexpensive scanner priced up to $150 with a good
> > resolution.
>
> You might take a look at the HP j6480.  It didn't take much to get it
> working wirelessly as a network printer/scanner/fax with my laptops!  All
> are either Ubuntu or Kubuntu, we have no windoze machines.  In fact they
> are completely banned in our office!  I got the all-in-one for $139.00 and
> am very happy so far.

I take it you just need a scanner, not an all-in-one printer? - Well, in that 
case I have a suggestion:

Epson Perfection 2400 Photo (or one in the same series)

The reason: Work just out of the box on all my (K)ubuntu systems with xsane 
and GIMP-sane. But most of all, you'll get a really capable photo-scanner as 
well, one that can scan old celluloid films (24mm x 36mm), such as black-and-
white negatives, color slides, color-negatives etc.. with a very high 
resolution (2400 - 4800 pixels per inch). Such scans can then be converted and 
edited to fine, printable photos up to letter and A4 size in GIMP. Of course it 
does normal, flat scans as well, just pull out the white plate covering the 
overhead, fluorescent light from the lid. Works perfectly. Got mine for 
something like $170.

Kaj Haulrich.
-- 
*** Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer ***
********* Running Linux Ubuntu 8.10 *********




From joelol75 at verizon.net  Fri Jan 16 23:06:26 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:06:26 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <4970BC5D.9000207@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901142345s2e016bbara9a20e28594c9de3@mail.gmail.com>	<200901150806.34964.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<gkng2v$dso$1@ger.gmane.org>	<496FC0E7.2070501@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901160154p13b45ad6r5ad35db455634b49@mail.gmail.com>
	<4970BC5D.9000207@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <497112F2.2050207@verizon.net>

Just to beat a dead horse, you can't cat .avi files.  You can only cat 
MPEG files.

Steven, you should always keep your file extensions!  It makes life 
easier knowing what file type they are by just looking at them.

\Joel



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 16 23:16:50 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:16:50 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901161710.17909.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901161000.24323.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901161710.17909.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901161816.50844.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> You can install the package "avidemux" or "avidemux-qt" and you will find
> the program in K-menu -> Multimedia.
Dear Nils,

You are best of friends.  Thank you so much, but I am tired of being so 
stupid.  I may install the GUI, but I want so much to learn the commands and 
their conditions.  I just love using a computer.  I would like to join those 
who understand their use too.  I realize I am a rock and almost unteachable, 
but before I croak, I would like to be able to solve a problem using the 
konsole.  If I can learn how to understand the symbols and how they affect 
the computations, I still believe I can learn.

Shoot if I am able to succeed, it means that anyone can succeed.  I really 
don't know if you and the others are just genious', or if you went through 
some kind of special learning process, or if you just spent the time it takes 
to learn, but for me, it isn't a matter of pride, it is a matter of desire.

It is you guys I feel sorry for.  I must be the greatest test on your 
collective patience ever.  But then again, if you can teach me, you can teach 
anyone.  And that is a great accomplishment.  Also, you guys know how much I 
appreciate your help.  It has put life back into my life.  Thanks again 
friends.

Steven



From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com  Fri Jan 16 23:56:37 2009
From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:56:37 -0500
Subject: Epson and HP Scanner
In-Reply-To: <200901161028.15896.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901161313.39838.phantom21@mindspring.com>
	<200901161028.15896.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <49711EB5.3050201@ajinfosearch.com>

Pastor JW wrote:
> On Friday 16 January 2009 10:13:39 am Mark Halegua wrote:
>> Can anyone on the list tell me which scanners from Epson and HP they've
>> used on Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
>>
>> I'm looking for an inexpensive scanner priced up to $150 with a good
>> resolution.
> 
> You might take a look at the HP j6480.  It didn't take much to get it working 
> wirelessly as a network printer/scanner/fax with my laptops!  All are either 
> Ubuntu or Kubuntu, we have no windoze machines.  In fact they are completely 
> banned in our office!  I got the all-in-one for $139.00 and am very happy so 
> far.
> 


Did you have a problem with that printing REALLY slow?  I just made a computer 
for my cousin last week and after I installed the drivers from the HP website, 
it all worked!  Then I tried to print and it took forever to spit out a page.
It's connected through the USB to a desktop running 8.04.

Alan

-- 
"The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated 
concept. If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in 
life and actually grok it."



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sat Jan 17 00:09:43 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:09:43 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901160919p193907bcm45663ba03e7f0350@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901160155wbf2bb22qe05890d5e804f664@mail.gmail.com>	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901160502t60a72d78v79a65c7dd87628d7@mail.gmail.com>	<4970B8DE.5070200@gatech.edu>
	<880dece00901160919p193907bcm45663ba03e7f0350@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497121C7.8060301@gatech.edu>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/1/16 Matthew Flaschen <matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu>:
>> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>>> I saw several emails where you performed some "file" commands, do you
>>> know what they were for? Do you know what the exec commands were for?
>>> I do not think that you would have done them if you know what they
>>> were for.
>> Why not?  If he hadn't run them, we would not know what kind of video
>> the files were, nor even if they were fragments or self-contained.
>>
> 
> We already knew from a previous email what type of files they were.

In which email before file was suggested did he tell us what kind of
video they were?

> I do not know about 'significant' but if one could avoid reencoding
> lossy formats, then it should be avoided.

It shouldn't be doing any reencoding at all, and based on the speed I
don't believe it is.  All it needs to do is write new AVI headers, then
copy all the frames to new file.

Thus, it requires the input files be in identical format (which in
Steven's case, they already were)

> What is wrong here? If you can teach me, then teach me. I do not claim
> to know all, in fact, I claim to know very little. Where did I err?

cat doesn't work for AVIs.  The video player will just happily stop
after the first AVI's stated (in the headers) end.

Matt Flaschen



From tycho at tycho.ws  Sat Jan 17 00:12:13 2009
From: tycho at tycho.ws (Tycho Andersen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:12:13 -0600
Subject: KDE 4.2 RC
In-Reply-To: <496DF71F.3090801@oranged.to>
References: <496DF71F.3090801@oranged.to>
Message-ID: <49b3a7400901161612v4782f17et961d16a6ff9c0e46@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Jimmy Stewpot <mailers at oranged.to> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have recently been testing the KDE 4.2 second beta and the RC release
> since yesterday. One thing that is really annoying me is that the ALT F1
>  key combination seems to no longer bring up the k menu/application
> launcher as expected.

I just tested ALT+F1 on my 8.10 box with 4.1, and it doesn't work here
either. However, after setting it to ALT+F1 manually, it works just
fine. Are you sure it ever did work?

Tycho

--
http://tycho.ws



From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Sat Jan 17 00:23:39 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:23:39 -0800
Subject: Epson and HP Scanner
In-Reply-To: <49711EB5.3050201@ajinfosearch.com>
References: <200901161313.39838.phantom21@mindspring.com>
	<200901161028.15896.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<49711EB5.3050201@ajinfosearch.com>
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On Friday 16 January 2009 3:56:37 pm Alan Dacey wrote:
> Pastor JW wrote:
> > On Friday 16 January 2009 10:13:39 am Mark Halegua wrote:
> >> Can anyone on the list tell me which scanners from Epson and HP they've
> >> used on Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
> >>
> >> I'm looking for an inexpensive scanner priced up to $150 with a good
> >> resolution.
> >
> > You might take a look at the HP j6480.  It didn't take much to get it
> > working wirelessly as a network printer/scanner/fax with my laptops!  All
> > are either Ubuntu or Kubuntu, we have no windoze machines.  In fact they
> > are completely banned in our office!  I got the all-in-one for $139.00
> > and am very happy so far.
>
> Did you have a problem with that printing REALLY slow?  I just made a
> computer for my cousin last week and after I installed the drivers from the
> HP website, it all worked!  Then I tried to print and it took forever to
> spit out a page. It's connected through the USB to a desktop running 8.04.

No, but then too I am running it as a network printer and its connection is 
WiFi.  It is rather fast.  Check the quality setting, how many "stars" is it 
set at?  I've not found any of its functions to be slow.


-- 
73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n><   PDGA# 35276
http://the-inner-circle.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 17 00:28:26 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:28:26 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <4970BB0A.8030905@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901160939.31023.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4970BB0A.8030905@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901161928.27302.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> The underscore relieves us of the need to quote.  The two input files do
> not have avi extension.  Also note the spacing is important.  Do not
> change any spaces.
Dear Matt,

Please don't give up on me, I am getting very close.  I am not even cutting and pasting.  I was careful to use the O instead of the 0, but when I type it in the konsole, it looks like an 0 instead of an O.  But I am sure that I depressed the correct character.

Because I was  having trouble, the computer was always saying no directory, I googled 'directory' and came to the conclusion that all I needed to do was put a folder in the sda7 partition to create a directory.  If I am correct, and I named it Movies, I now have the movies in a directory.  I put all the movies located in the partition sda7 in that Directory (I hope I am finally using the term correctly).  I carefully typed in your instruction and here is the following.  Notice that I made two attempts with two different directories.  Nonetheless, the result is not what I expected.  There is obviously a an "O Jerusalem" in the new directory, but it opens with Kate and not a player.  The 'old' 'O Jerusalem I' and 'O Jerusalem II' are still there too, so I can still play the program, however I am still making a mistake somewhere.

If you don't mind taking a look at the result of the effort, I will install the GUI, but I really want to succeed with this effort using the konsole.  I am starting to understand and remember.

steven at Studio25:/media/sda7$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem "O Jerusalem I""O Jerusalem
II"
avimerge (transcode v1.0.2) (C) 2001-2004 Thomas Oestreich, T. Bitterberg

Usage: avimerge [options]
         -o file                   output file name
         -i file1 [file2 [...]]    input file(s)
         -p file                   multiplex additional audio track from file
         -a num                    select audio track number from input file [0]
         -A num                    select audio track number in output file [nex
t]
         -b n                      handle vbr audio [autodetect]
         -c                        drop video frames in case audio is missing [o                                               ff]
         -f FILE                   read AVI comments from FILE [off]
         -x FILE                   read AVI index from FILE [off] (see aviindex(                                               1))
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7$ cd /media/sda7/Movies
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem "O Jerusalem I""O Je                                               rusalem II"
avimerge (transcode v1.0.2) (C) 2001-2004 Thomas Oestreich, T. Bitterberg

Usage: avimerge [options]
         -o file                   output file name
         -i file1 [file2 [...]]    input file(s)
         -p file                   multiplex additional audio track from file
         -a num                    select audio track number from input file [0]
         -A num                    select audio track number in output file [nex                                               t]
         -b n                      handle vbr audio [autodetect]
         -c                        drop video frames in case audio is missing [o                                               ff]
         -f FILE                   read AVI comments from FILE [off]
         -x FILE                   read AVI index from FILE [off] (see aviindex(                                               1))
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ cd /media/sda7/ 

Next, I looked and saw that I wasn't in the correct directory, so I changed to : cd /media/sda7/Movies

Then I noticed I hadn't put the -i for inputting the two files and got the following:

steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem -i "O Jerusalem I""O                                                Jerusalem II"
scanning file O Jerusalem IO Jerusalem II for video/audio parameter
AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
REASON: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$

I then tried adding .avi to the -i files w/o success and next .avi to -o and -i, also without success.  I opened a new konsole for this.

steven at Studio25:~$ cd /media/sda7/Movies
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem -i "O Jerusalem I""O                                               scanning file O Jerusalem IO JerusalemII for video/audio parameter
AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
REASON: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem -i "O Jerusalem I.av
scanning file O Jerusalem I.aviO Jerusalem II.avi for video/audio parameter
AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
REASON: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem.avi -i "O Jerusalem
scanning file O Jerusalem I.aviO Jerusalem II.avi for video/audio parameter
AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
REASON: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$

Then I renamed the files to include .avi after their respective names in the Movie Directory, but I still got the same error.

Next, I typed in the following:

steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o "O Jerusalem.avi" -i .aviI aviII
scanning file .aviI for video/audio parameter
AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
REASON: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ /media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o "O Jerusalem                                               .avi" -i .avi1 avi2
bash: /media/sda7/Movies$: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem.avi 1.avi 2.avi
avimerge (transcode v1.0.2) (C) 2001-2004 Thomas Oestreich, T. Bitterberg

Usage: avimerge [options]
         -o file                   output file name
         -i file1 [file2 [...]]    input file(s)
         -p file                   multiplex additional audio track from file
         -a num                    select audio track number from input file [0]
         -A num                    select audio track number in output file [nex                                               t]
         -b n                      handle vbr audio [autodetect]
         -c                        drop video frames in case audio is missing [o                                               ff]
         -f FILE                   read AVI comments from FILE [off]
         -x FILE                   read AVI index from FILE [off] (see aviindex(                                               1))
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$

Notice with .aviI .aviII it failed then with 1.avi 2.avi I got some results.  The Icon for O Jerusalem became similar to the icons for the working movies, however when I attempted to play the merged files, Kaffeine opened normally but it still would not play the movie.  There is progress here, because I finally got the output file to open Kaffeine automatically, it just would not continue to play the movie.  It suggested the codex were installed.  I am stopped and out of ideas.

Can you see what the current error is?
                                              
Thanks Friend,

Steven
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 17 00:43:51 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:43:51 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <4970B929.4020901@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901160912.56008.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4970B929.4020901@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901161943.51663.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> If you don't understand a command, just ask (or read documentation).  I
> am trying to help efficiently, not put one over on you.
That would never even occur to me.  I realize how difficult it is to explain 
an easy thing to someone who doesn't yet get it.  I am only grateful for your 
help.

Steven




From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sat Jan 17 00:45:54 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:45:54 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901161928.27302.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901160939.31023.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4970BB0A.8030905@gatech.edu>
	<200901161928.27302.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49712A42.6000809@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:

> Because I was  having trouble, the computer was always saying no
> directory, I googled 'directory' and came to the conclusion that all
> I needed to do was put a folder in the sda7 partition to create a
> directory.

You don't need to create any directories.  /media/sda7 is actually a
directory itself, called a mount-point.  The error you got before was
because of a typo.

  If I am correct, and I named it Movies, I now have the
> movies in a directory.

Okay, you didn't need to, but it's good to organize anyway. :)  Can you run:

ls -al /media/sda7/Movies

just to make sure we're on the same page (I need to know the exact
filenames).

> I carefully typed in your instruction

It can actually be simpler to copy and paste than retype.

> The 'old' 'O Jerusalem I' and 'O
> Jerusalem II' are still there too, so I can still play the program,
> however I am still making a mistake somewhere.

The old ones are expected to remain (after you're sure the new one is
correct, you can delete the old manually).

> steven at Studio25:/media/sda7$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem "O Jerusalem
> I""O Jerusalem II" avimerge (transcode v1.0.2) (C) 2001-2004 Thomas
> Oestreich, T. Bitterberg

Steven, it looks like you made a couple mistakes.   First, you dropped
the -i.  Second, you dropped the space between "O Jerusalem I" and "O
Jerusalem II".  Both the -i and the space are required.

> Usage: avimerge [options] -o file                   output file name 

For future reference, when you see a line like this (with Usage and an
explanation of the command-line options), it usually means you messed up.

> steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem -i "O
> Jerusalem I""O
> Jerusalem II" scanning file O Jerusalem IO Jerusalem II

See.  It thinks there's a file called "O Jerusalem IO Jerusalem II"
because you dropped a space.

 for
> video/audio parameter AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file 
> REASON: No such file or directory steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$

You put the -i this time, but you still had the spacing wrong.

As I said, do the ls (see above) so I know the current filenames, then
I'll give the correct command line.

Matt Flaschen



From paul at lemmons.name  Sat Jan 17 01:17:11 2009
From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:17:11 -0700
Subject: Wireless printers
In-Reply-To: <200901141132.10992.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901062117.45019.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>	<200901072207.30602.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>	<a7f8874a0901072309m6d8699c7y39e27b4a95b604fd@mail.gmail.com>
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 17 01:38:14 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:38:14 -0500
Subject: Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <200901162002.14916.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>
	<880dece00901161042j7174323ej256c8f16d4d7ca6@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901162002.14916.kassube@gmx.net>
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On Friday 16 January 2009 2:02:14 pm Nils Kassube wrote:

> > > Install the package "rutebook" and
> > > start reading at /usr/share/doc/rutebook/html/index.html with your
> > > favourite browser.

This is terrific.  It was already in my computer.  Thank you, thank you.

Steven




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 17 01:50:49 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:50:49 -0500
Subject: Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <200901161841.39407.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>
	<200901161841.39407.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901162050.49370.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> > Meanwhile, consider a few little books:
>
> [list of books]
Where is the list of books?  I may be able to add a couple.

By the way, Rutebook is wonderful.  I have to answer these emails, but then I 
will read read read.  My first glance says the it is just what I have been 
looking for.  Thank you thank you.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 17 02:07:05 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:07:05 -0500
Subject: Help for Steven  Thanks!!! To all of you.
In-Reply-To: <gkqfkn$2ta$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com> <gkqfkn$2ta$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200901162107.06252.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

For the past four years, since I have been trying to use Linux, I have had 
both hardware and experience with Linux problems every day.  When I couldn't 
replace my broken Windows CD without repurchasing, I started to try Linux.  

But since then every spare moment has gone into repair or replacement of 
hardware, or repairing damage to packages caused by my experimenting how to 
use the programs.  I did not know I was neglecting anything.  

I did not have a breath to search for what you have so kindly provided with 
the proper books.  Someone gave me a Linux book one time.  It was so complex 
and over my head, my brain went into warp just scanning it.  I would get 
headaches being transferred from topic to topic without having an 
understanding of the topic I was transferring from.  Most of the time, the 
transfers continued until you could not find your way back to your starting 
point.

My sides and tummy are hurting, I am so happy.  I just can't stop laughing.

Steven

It appears that rutebook will feed me in a way I can handle for quite a while.  
And as soon as my new computer gets running, I should be able to spend a lot 
of time just learning from these wonderful sources.





From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com  Sat Jan 17 02:12:49 2009
From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:12:49 -0500
Subject: Epson and HP Scanner
In-Reply-To: <200901161623.39437.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901161313.39838.phantom21@mindspring.com>	<200901161028.15896.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>	<49711EB5.3050201@ajinfosearch.com>
	<200901161623.39437.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <49713EA1.9010009@ajinfosearch.com>

Pastor JW wrote:

>>> You might take a look at the HP j6480.  It didn't take much to get it
>>> working wirelessly as a network printer/scanner/fax with my laptops!  All
>>> are either Ubuntu or Kubuntu, we have no windoze machines.  In fact they
>>> are completely banned in our office!  I got the all-in-one for $139.00
>>> and am very happy so far.
>> Did you have a problem with that printing REALLY slow?  I just made a
>> computer for my cousin last week and after I installed the drivers from the
>> HP website, it all worked!  Then I tried to print and it took forever to
>> spit out a page. It's connected through the USB to a desktop running 8.04.
> 
> No, but then too I am running it as a network printer and its connection is 
> WiFi.  It is rather fast.  Check the quality setting, how many "stars" is it 
> set at?  I've not found any of its functions to be slow.
> 
> 
Tried that, didn't work.  I guess I'll just have to go there and see what I can 
do.  Thanks for your reply!

-- 
"The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated 
concept.  If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in 
life and actually grok it."



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 17 02:50:43 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:50:43 -0500
Subject: For you from Help for Steven
Message-ID: <200901162150.43636.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I am still laughing; tears are running down my face.  I am so happy.  The only 
way I have ever moved a file using the konsole has been by copying and 
pasting an instruction from one of you.  And I did not know what I was doing 
even then.  

I may not get much sleep for a while.  I am having so much fun.  I now 
understand how and when to use ls, probably not completely but enough so that 
I can function in the ways I need.  I also will move files using the konsole 
now, because I understand how it works a bit.  I probably have a lot to learn 
about that too, but I just moved a movie not only from one partition to 
another partition, they were on different HDD's.  It seemed to be a lot 
faster than the cut and paste efforts I am used to using a GUI.

Once I get the hang of this and am able to remember the often used commands 
and their conditions, I may never use anything but a terminal to get work 
done.

I love you all.  Each of you who stressed the path that would help me.  There 
must have been a dozen emails with the same approximate instruction.  And 
although I may have received such an instruction in the past, I have been 
working under so much pressure to not make a mistake that I couldn't evaluate 
what was really important.  Every jot was important before, however, although 
every jot is still important, some are less important when you start to 
understand and you don't have to strain to remember or worry to not make a 
mistake.  You probably can't remember the first time you typed a command that 
opened what you wanted and worked.  It is exhilarating. 

Already I am sending a mention of Rutebook to those who have tried to help me 
in the past but who are not in a much better place than I am.  This book is 
like penicillin for the uninstructed.  You may hear from me less for a while.  
If I can start putting what I learn to work, I won't be so intellectually 
crippled.  Thanks again to you all.  Remember my response to this email.  I 
would guess that it is the same for most who call themselves newbies.

You guys are the greatest.

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sat Jan 17 04:00:19 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:00:19 -0500
Subject: For you from Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <200901162150.43636.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901162150.43636.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <497157D3.3040600@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I am still laughing; tears are running down my face.  I am so happy.  The only 
> way I have ever moved a file using the konsole has been by copying and 
> pasting an instruction from one of you.  And I did not know what I was doing 
> even then.  
> 
> I may not get much sleep for a while.  I am having so much fun. 

Did you get the videos connected correctly yet?

Matt



From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 17 04:35:28 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:35:28 +1100
Subject: re grub error 17
Message-ID: <BLU143-W4258C10682532243066DA1CDD50@phx.gbl>


anyone know of why when loading the grub that comes with error 17
 
when I tried to load up 2 extra Hdd from my modile hdd racks(80gb bkup xp pro+ and my old copy of
Me 40gb) in the Grub line said grub loading next line error 17, what does that mean,
also when I done a clone copy of the current bkupman 80gb the one I use with dual to to
Kubuntu, it clonned ok thru dos using Ghost 3 but when I attached as main drive to check
that it work worked, when booting started to do the grub loading but said
grub grub grub grub grub etc forever so I presume the clone didnt work, so is there a clone
app I can use when in K to clone mt xp pro dual boot hdd to a backup of it, cause I can use
paragon disk copy 8 to clone the K drives when in xp pro???????
 
ray
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From rim_taran at yahoo.co.in  Sat Jan 17 06:16:40 2009
From: rim_taran at yahoo.co.in (taranjitsingh dahiya)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:46:40 +0530 (IST)
Subject: problems with pppoe connections 
In-Reply-To: <mailman.37672.1232155041.2620.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <222739.38571.qm@web94612.mail.in2.yahoo.com>

hi

i m facing problems with pppoe connection it configures and works
fine but it keeps disconnecting after some time i have to "sudo ipconf"
and reconfigure it and again it does the same thing...... 

i have
kept network connection to wired connection "DHCP" are my settings
incorrect if yes please give me some suggestions how to configure and
how to keep pppoe connection stable..



with regards

Taranjit Singh{TJ}



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From kassube at gmx.net  Sat Jan 17 08:18:38 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:18:38 +0100
Subject: Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <200901162050.49370.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>
	<200901161841.39407.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901162050.49370.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901170918.38732.kassube@gmx.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> > > Meanwhile, consider a few little books:
> >
> > [list of books]
>
> Where is the list of books?  I may be able to add a couple.

That was in the mail by Wendell Cochran which started this thread. Maybe 
you should really keep the mails from the list at least for some time so 
you can read things again if necessary. In kmail: first make a folder for 
mails from this list. Then make a filter to move messages from the list 
into that folder (I think you know how to do that already). Finally set 
the expiration time like this: Right click the folder for the list in the 
Folder pane and select "Expire...". Check the box for "Expire read mails 
after 30 days" and click "OK". Now kmail will keep the mails for 30 days 
and then delete them. You can still manually delete mails or move / copy 
them to other folders if necessary. However you don't have to search the 
archive at <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/> if you want 
to look up something which helps understand things.

Now, for your convenience, here is Wendells list again:

| Learning the UNIX Operating System
| Jerry Peek et al.
| 4e 1998  O'Reilly
| 92 p.
| (Later editions seem bloated.)
| 
| Linux Pocket Guide
| Daniel J. Barrett
| 2004 O'Reilly
| 191 p.
| (Slanted toward Fedora, but that can be ignored.)
| 
| Linux Phrasebook
| Scott Granneman
| 2006 Sams
| 382 p.
| (Examples throughout.)
| 
| Teach Yourself Linux
| Robert Billing
| 2004 McGraw-Hill
| 187 p.
| (Concise, practical, readable.)
| 
| (The order of titles is random.)
| 
| In this decade I've read each book four times -- in buses, barber
| shops, waiting rooms, bed.  I'm still reading 'em, & I'm still
| learning.


Nils



From dave at thefletchers.net  Sat Jan 17 09:06:22 2009
From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:06:22 +0000
Subject: Epson and HP Scanner
In-Reply-To: <200901162314.14808.kaj@haulrich.net>
References: <200901161313.39838.phantom21@mindspring.com>
	<200901161028.15896.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<200901162314.14808.kaj@haulrich.net>
Message-ID: <200901170906.29502.dave@thefletchers.net>

On Friday 16 Jan 2009, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> I take it you just need a scanner, not an all-in-one printer? - Well, in 
that 
> case I have a suggestion:
> 
> Epson Perfection 2400 Photo (or one in the same series)

Agreed - I have a Perfection 2450 Photo. This one scans anything up to 4x5 
inch sheet film, for those who have film from medium/large format cameras. 
This would produce rather a large file I think!

I don't know whether this model is still available though. The downside of 
this scanner is that there have been issues with connectivity. Last I knew of 
it, somebody was working on a fix for the USB2 connection, but mine has been 
stable for a long time using the firewire connection.

Dave
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 17 09:59:57 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:59:57 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <497112F2.2050207@verizon.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4970BC5D.9000207@gatech.edu> <497112F2.2050207@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901170459.58057.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Steven, you should always keep your file extensions!  It makes life
> easier knowing what file type they are by just looking at them.

Thanks, I will.  When I was working completely in the dark, I could see no use 
for the movie extensions.  It looked a little neater without them.  Now that 
I have a reason to save them, I will.  I sure am having fun practicing on the 
konsole.

I was wondering is 'mv' the instruction to move a file as opposed to copy a 
file.  I found that when I copied a file and didn't want it in two locations 
I then had to delete the one I didn't want.  I thought perhaps mv might move 
the file without leaving a copy behind.

Am I correct that things move faster when worked from the konsole?  I am still 
faced with laughter; I get so happy when things happen as they are supposed 
to.    I am still having trouble getting the joined movie to play.  Something 
positive happened, because the icon for the output movie title changed to the 
same as the other functioning movies, but although it opens Kaffeine Player 
and the codec are installed, it still does not play the movie.  Do you have 
any ideas on that?

Thanks again friend,

Steven



From linux_milano at yahoo.it  Sat Jan 17 10:11:12 2009
From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (Pol)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:11:12 +0100
Subject: knode times out
Message-ID: <gksaso$rkl$1@ger.gmane.org>

Often (not always) knode times out, while accessing my newsgroups provider. 
Thunderbird and Pan clients always work fine, so it should be knode issue. 
Any ideas?

Thank you
--
Pol




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 17 10:24:48 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 05:24:48 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <49712A42.6000809@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901161928.27302.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49712A42.6000809@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901170524.48675.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Okay, you didn't need to, but it's good to organize anyway. :)  Can you
> run:
>
> ls -al /media/sda7/Movies

total 20089368
drwxr-xr-x 2 steven steven       4096 2009-01-16 19:08 .
drwxr-xrwx 9 root   root        12288 2009-01-16 10:41 ..
-rwxr-xrwt 1 steven steven  314920960 2008-09-06 03:40 Awakening
-rw-r----- 1 steven steven  734015488 2007-12-17 03:48 Bloodsport
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  734156800 2008-03-16 17:26 Conspiracy
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  970452992 2008-10-15 03:50 Hostage
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  735864832 2008-10-13 03:23 Incredible Hulk
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  741596088 2008-07-04 05:10 
IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull
-rw-r--rwT 1 steven steven  735041536 2008-01-29 00:14 Just Cause
-rw-r--rwT 1 steven steven  736016384 2008-04-03 05:15 Legend of the Water 
Horse
-rwxr-xr-x 1 steven steven  735840256 2008-09-26 20:26 List
-rw-r--rwT 1 steven steven  733255680 2008-03-01 16:38 Michael Clayton
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  733050880 2008-04-06 19:46 Nims Island.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven         46 2009-01-16 10:49 O Jerusalem.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  735442944 2007-04-15 15:33 O Jerusalem I.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  734171136 2007-04-15 15:35 O Jerusalem II.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  733808640 2008-10-20 04:30 Recount I
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  732573696 2008-10-20 04:28 Recount II
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  734023680 2009-01-16 21:52 Red
-rwxr-xr-x 1 steven steven  736475136 2008-09-05 09:43 Redbelt
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  735610880 2008-10-20 05:31 Reign Over Me
-rw-r--rwT 1 steven steven  734009344 2008-03-17 09:23 Runaway Jury
-rwxr-xr-x 1 steven steven  733816832 2008-09-14 00:16 Shepherd-Border Patrol
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 1102247936 2008-10-13 15:11 Starship Troopers
-rwxrwxrwx 1 steven steven  735641600 2007-07-28 17:41 Stealth
-rwxr-xrwt 1 steven steven  734844928 2008-09-05 11:31 Stop-Loss
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  733587054 2008-04-24 13:56 Street Kings
-rwxr-xrwt 1 steven steven  945352704 2006-12-02 06:32 Superman Returns
-rwxr-xrwt 1 steven steven  735332352 2008-09-05 14:46 WarGames-the Dead Code
-rwxr-xr-x 1 steven steven  314908672 2008-09-06 03:40 Watchbird
-rwxr-xr-x 1 steven steven  735156224 2008-09-13 14:08 You Don't Mess With the 
Zohan
steven at Studio25:~$                                                  

> Steven, it looks like you made a couple mistakes.   First, you dropped
> the -i.  Second, you dropped the space between "O Jerusalem I" and "O
> Jerusalem II".  Both the -i and the space are required.

Later in the email you saw I noticed the missing -i, however the space between 
I did not notice.  It looked like they were together to me.
>
> > Usage: avimerge [options] -o file                   output file name
>
> For future reference, when you see a line like this (with Usage and an
> explanation of the command-line options), it usually means you messed up.

Thanks.  You mean the extra space, don't you?

I did some more experimenting and left in the failures so you could see and 
criticize my logic:

steven at Studio25:~$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem -i "O Jerusalem I" "O Jerusalem II"
scanning file O Jerusalem I for video/audio parameter
AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
REASON: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem.avi -i "O Jerusalem.avi I" "O 
Jerusalem II.avi"
scanning file O Jerusalem.avi I for video/audio parameter
AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
REASON: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem.avi -i 1.avi 2.avi
scanning file 1.avi for video/audio parameter
AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
REASON: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem.avi -i I.avi II.avi
scanning file I.avi for video/audio parameter
AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
REASON: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~$ cd /media/sda7/Movies
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem.avi 1.avi 2.avi
avimerge (transcode v1.0.2) (C) 2001-2004 Thomas Oestreich, T. Bitterberg

Usage: avimerge [options]
         -o file                   output file name
         -i file1 [file2 [...]]    input file(s)
         -p file                   multiplex additional audio track from file
         -a num                    select audio track number from input file 
[0]
         -A num                    select audio track number in output file 
[next]
         -b n                      handle vbr audio [autodetect]
         -c                        drop video frames in case audio is missing 
[off]
         -f FILE                   read AVI comments from FILE [off]
         -x FILE                   read AVI index from FILE [off] (see 
aviindex(1))
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$   

The last time, the Icon for the output changed to a similar Icon as the movie 
files.  Before that change, the icon represented a text icon.  Additionally, 
when I tried to open the movie, the Kaffeine window was white with writing in 
it, indicating that the movie was not going to play.  This time Kaffeine 
opened to a black window, the way my movies usually start, however it did not 
play.  I also noticed that the progress bar was all the way to the right.  It 
would not return to the starting point, and clicking on Play only loaded the 
Codecs and confirmed that they were already open.  Does that suggest 
anything?  Thanks for your continued help.

Steven  



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 17 10:30:39 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 05:30:39 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <4970B7A0.2070700@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901160404m8860899ta5eaeeb351ece25e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4970B7A0.2070700@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901170530.39849.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

Dear Matt,

I tried the GUI avidemux and I remember something that paused me.  I am 
thinking that possibly the movie O Jerusalem may have been a .rar.  When 
using the GUI and trying to get it to work, I had to open the files like 
opening a rar.  Is it possible my failure is because I have been trying .avi, 
which is the dominant form I save movies when it may be a .rar.  Avimerge 
wouldnot work with a .rar, would it?

Steven






From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 17 10:43:05 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 05:43:05 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901160404m8860899ta5eaeeb351ece25e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901160655.12847.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<880dece00901160404m8860899ta5eaeeb351ece25e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901170543.05728.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


>
> Have you tried cat instead of avimerge? Depending on the format of the
> video (avi is just a container) it may work. Actually, it is more than
> likely to work. Look back a few emails for the proper command,
> including cding into the proper directory.

Yes, but I always get that it is not a directory or file in the result.

Steven






From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 17 10:48:21 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 05:48:21 -0500
Subject: For you from Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <497157D3.3040600@gatech.edu>
References: <200901162150.43636.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<497157D3.3040600@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901170548.21810.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Did you get the videos connected correctly yet?

No but I am making progress.

This last time I got a result that appeared to be a fix.  It opened Kaffeine 
to a black screen this time and loaded the codecs.  It also confirmed that 
the codecs were already open.  It was trying to start a movie.  Nonetheless 
it did not open.  

I noticed that the progress bar for the movie was at the far right, as though 
the movie had ended.  I clicked on play, but nothing happened.  I also tried 
to manually move the progress bar back to the starting point, but it would 
not move.  Does that create a recollection?

Steven



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 15:24:08 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:24:08 +0200
Subject: The amd64 question again.
Message-ID: <880dece00901170724t2320d097iee1bf92976b1b56e@mail.gmail.com>

Once again the time to start testing another *buntu version is among
us. Although I do not need RAM>4GB at the moment, I would like to help
progress 64 bit computing for the day when I will have that much RAM.
I have looked for a document outlining the current drawbacks of 64
bit, but could not find anything inclusive. I generally use Kontact,
Firefox (with Flash), proprietary ATI drivers, Open Office, Skype,
Gooogle Earth, and Virtual Box. What problems can I expect with 64
bit?

Thanks.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From doc.evans at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 16:30:59 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:30:59 -0700
Subject: The amd64 question again.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901170724t2320d097iee1bf92976b1b56e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00901170724t2320d097iee1bf92976b1b56e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497207C3.6020600@gmail.com>

Dotan Cohen said the following at 01/17/2009 08:24 AM :
> Once again the time to start testing another *buntu version is among
> us. Although I do not need RAM>4GB at the moment, I would like to help
> progress 64 bit computing for the day when I will have that much RAM.
> I have looked for a document outlining the current drawbacks of 64
> bit, but could not find anything inclusive. I generally use Kontact,
> Firefox (with Flash), proprietary ATI drivers, Open Office, Skype,
> Gooogle Earth, and Virtual Box. What problems can I expect with 64
> bit?

My experience is that odd random things don't work (but someone else
running 64 bits will have them working just fine). What doesn't work also
seems to vary randomly from release to release. The general trend is that
on average more stuff works with each release, but don't assume that
because feature X works in release N, it will also work in N+1. It
*probably* will, but not necessarily.

The biggest weirdnesses I see are in browser plugins, where a plugin that
is supposed to work in both Konq and FF will work only in one of them, and
again it seems random which one works. In 8.10 more stuff works in Konq; in
8.04 more stuff worked in FF (for me, anyway).

There are stability problems in the current FF (and it adds errors to
.xsession-errors at the rate of about 1GB per day here), but that's recent
and likely is a purely FF issue.

My overall impression is that it's 98% fine, with only occasional
bleeding-edgedness.

  Doc

-- 
Web:  http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR

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From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 17:53:18 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:53:18 +0200
Subject: The amd64 question again.
In-Reply-To: <497207C3.6020600@gmail.com>
References: <880dece00901170724t2320d097iee1bf92976b1b56e@mail.gmail.com>
	<497207C3.6020600@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00901170953i70d75f66h233a5c8f38c76085@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/17 D. R. Evans <doc.evans at gmail.com>:
> Dotan Cohen said the following at 01/17/2009 08:24 AM :
>> Once again the time to start testing another *buntu version is among
>> us. Although I do not need RAM>4GB at the moment, I would like to help
>> progress 64 bit computing for the day when I will have that much RAM.
>> I have looked for a document outlining the current drawbacks of 64
>> bit, but could not find anything inclusive. I generally use Kontact,
>> Firefox (with Flash), proprietary ATI drivers, Open Office, Skype,
>> Gooogle Earth, and Virtual Box. What problems can I expect with 64
>> bit?
>
> My experience is that odd random things don't work (but someone else
> running 64 bits will have them working just fine). What doesn't work also
> seems to vary randomly from release to release. The general trend is that
> on average more stuff works with each release, but don't assume that
> because feature X works in release N, it will also work in N+1. It
> *probably* will, but not necessarily.
>
> The biggest weirdnesses I see are in browser plugins, where a plugin that
> is supposed to work in both Konq and FF will work only in one of them, and
> again it seems random which one works. In 8.10 more stuff works in Konq; in
> 8.04 more stuff worked in FF (for me, anyway).
>
> There are stability problems in the current FF (and it adds errors to
> .xsession-errors at the rate of about 1GB per day here), but that's recent
> and likely is a purely FF issue.
>
> My overall impression is that it's 98% fine, with only occasional
> bleeding-edgedness.
>
>  Doc
>

Thanks, Doc. I suppose that I will build a test system when the betas
come out, and file bugs. But I will keep 32 bit for my daily driver.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From doc.evans at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 19:33:31 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:33:31 -0700
Subject: The amd64 question again.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901170953i70d75f66h233a5c8f38c76085@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00901170724t2320d097iee1bf92976b1b56e@mail.gmail.com>	<497207C3.6020600@gmail.com>
	<880dece00901170953i70d75f66h233a5c8f38c76085@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4972328B.4040802@gmail.com>

Dotan Cohen said the following at 01/17/2009 10:53 AM :

> 
> Thanks, Doc. I suppose that I will build a test system when the betas
> come out, and file bugs. But I will keep 32 bit for my daily driver.
> 

FWIW, I have been 32-bit-free for several years on my production systems.
So you might find that you don't need it either.

I admit to keeping a 32-bit Windows machine available, though. Very, very
occasionally I am forced to use it. Mostly for the fact that it's Windows
and has IE, I think. When something doesn't work on my production machines
and it does work on the Windows machine, I don't investigate whether the
reason for the difference is Windows/IE or the fact that it's 32 bits.

I can't recall the last time I ran into a program that worked on 32 bit
Linux but which crashed under 64 bits. That used to be a very common
problem (generally because the developer probably assumed that integers and
pointers had the same length). That problem seems to have disappeared in
the last 18 months or so.

  Doc

-- 
Web:  http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR

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From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 19:51:15 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:51:15 +0200
Subject: The amd64 question again.
In-Reply-To: <4972328B.4040802@gmail.com>
References: <880dece00901170724t2320d097iee1bf92976b1b56e@mail.gmail.com>
	<497207C3.6020600@gmail.com>
	<880dece00901170953i70d75f66h233a5c8f38c76085@mail.gmail.com>
	<4972328B.4040802@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00901171151p77598351qfc158a6e40b73ab8@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/17 D. R. Evans <doc.evans at gmail.com>:
> I can't recall the last time I ran into a program that worked on 32 bit
> Linux but which crashed under 64 bits. That used to be a very common
> problem (generally because the developer probably assumed that integers and
> pointers had the same length). That problem seems to have disappeared in
> the last 18 months or so.
>

That is encouraging, especially as my last real attempt at moving to
64 bit was in fact two years ago this month. (I cannot believe that
this computer is two years old! or my daughter for that matter!)

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From jonathan at yamame.org  Sat Jan 17 20:44:00 2009
From: jonathan at yamame.org (Jonathan Byrne)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:44:00 -0700
Subject: The amd64 question again.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901171151p77598351qfc158a6e40b73ab8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <KmZieI8y.1232225040.6189890.bteam@gol.com>

On 1/17/2009, "Dotan Cohen" <dotancohen at gmail.com> wrote:


>That is encouraging, especially as my last real attempt at moving to
>64 bit was in fact two years ago this month. (I cannot believe that
>this computer is two years old! or my daughter for that matter!)

I'm running Kubuntu 8.10 for AMD64 with KDE 4.2 RC 1 both at work and at
home (on a Core 2 Duo V-Pro Lenovo desktop and a Core 2 Quad home-buil,
respectively) and have also run into no problems, except 1: the last
time I tried out the Lightning add-on for Thunderbird it was 32-bit only
through the standard process. Someone had rolled up a 64-bit version,
and it did work, but it had to be manually installed. Not a blocker for
me, as my actual mail and calendaring is done on a MacBook Pro using
Entourage. I only use Thunderbird for picking apart spam (for $DAY_JOB)
so it doesn't need to do anything but pick up mboxes from my local disk.

Cheers,

Jonathan





From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Sat Jan 17 21:42:20 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:42:20 -0500
Subject: interface config on kmail 1.11 (kde4.2)
Message-ID: <200901171642.20662.pkaplan1@comcast.net>

The new interface on kmail is nice, but is there anyway to have the message 
list panel list the message, date and sender in the header columns rather than 
organized by thread with the other info associated with the subject?

In the new view, all messages take up 2 lines in the old view, only 1.

Also, what about displaying the number of total and read messages in the 
folder panel?

TIA
Paul



From magick.crow at gmail.com  Sat Jan 17 22:32:31 2009
From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:32:31 +0100
Subject: The amd64 question again.
In-Reply-To: <KmZieI8y.1232225040.6189890.bteam@gol.com>
References: <880dece00901171151p77598351qfc158a6e40b73ab8@mail.gmail.com>
	<KmZieI8y.1232225040.6189890.bteam@gol.com>
Message-ID: <f495db580901171432t3b2eae1cs53d8918f88f722f5@mail.gmail.com>

I have been using it for about 2+ years now and have no problems at
all. (with the 64 vs 32 bit
anyway ;-) There was a time when I had to run a 32 bit FF. I have no
clue about your add on though.

Sometimes you have to compile a 64 bit version from source is you are
getting obscure software that is not in the repos but even that
problem has been evaporating of late. More and more 64 bit systems
seem to be pushing out all the rough edges.

Given the system you seem to have, I bet you have room to duel boot
until you are sure.

On 1/17/09, Jonathan Byrne <jonathan at yamame.org> wrote:
> On 1/17/2009, "Dotan Cohen" <dotancohen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>That is encouraging, especially as my last real attempt at moving to
>>64 bit was in fact two years ago this month. (I cannot believe that
>>this computer is two years old! or my daughter for that matter!)
>
> I'm running Kubuntu 8.10 for AMD64 with KDE 4.2 RC 1 both at work and at
> home (on a Core 2 Duo V-Pro Lenovo desktop and a Core 2 Quad home-buil,
> respectively) and have also run into no problems, except 1: the last
> time I tried out the Lightning add-on for Thunderbird it was 32-bit only
> through the standard process. Someone had rolled up a 64-bit version,
> and it did work, but it had to be manually installed. Not a blocker for
> me, as my actual mail and calendaring is done on a MacBook Pro using
> Entourage. I only use Thunderbird for picking apart spam (for $DAY_JOB)
> so it doesn't need to do anything but pick up mboxes from my local disk.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> --
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> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>


-- 
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From list at loampitsfarm.co.uk  Sat Jan 17 22:44:37 2009
From: list at loampitsfarm.co.uk (andrew heggie)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:44:37 +0000
Subject: knode times out
References: <gksaso$rkl$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <gktn0j$irm$1@ger.gmane.org>

<posted & mailed>

Pol wrote:

> Often (not always) knode times out, while accessing my newsgroups
> provider. Thunderbird and Pan clients always work fine, so it should be
> knode issue. Any ideas?


Change the server timeout?

settings->configure knode->accounts newsgroupserver->edit->server timeout

AJH




From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sat Jan 17 23:57:30 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:57:30 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901170530.39849.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901160404m8860899ta5eaeeb351ece25e@mail.gmail.com>	<4970B7A0.2070700@gatech.edu>
	<200901170530.39849.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4972706A.6070503@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> Dear Matt,
> 
> I tried the GUI avidemux and I remember something that paused me.  I am 
> thinking that possibly the movie O Jerusalem may have been a .rar.

No, I doubt that.  According to file (this program tells you what kind
of file something is) they were both AVI movies.

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 18 00:07:25 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:07:25 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901170524.48675.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901161928.27302.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49712A42.6000809@gatech.edu>
	<200901170524.48675.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <497272BD.6020508@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven         46 2009-01-16 10:49 O Jerusalem.avi
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  735442944 2007-04-15 15:33 O Jerusalem I.avi
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  734171136 2007-04-15 15:35 O Jerusalem II.avi

Okay, thank you.  It obviously hasn't worked yet because O Jerusalem.avi
is far too small.  Note, if you ever want the sizes to be more readable,
you can do ls -lh (h means human-readable sizes and l means list form).

> Later in the email you saw I noticed the missing -i, however the space between 
> I did not notice.  It looked like they were together to me.

Okay.  So now you know.

>> For future reference, when you see a line like this (with Usage and an
>> explanation of the command-line options), it usually means you messed up.
> 
> Thanks.  You mean the extra space, don't you?

Right, but the Usage message appearing signifies an error in many programs.

> AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
> REASON: No such file or directory

Okay, that tells you it can't find an input file.

[snip]

In all of these other ones you posted, it can't find the inputs,
probably because you renamed them.

> steven at Studio25:~$ cd /media/sda7/Movies
> steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem.avi 1.avi 2.avi

Missing -i, and wrong input names.

> The last time, the Icon for the output changed to a similar Icon as the movie 
> files.  Before that change, the icon represented a text icon.

Unfortunately, this is based on the file extension, so it can be wrong.
 If you create a text file called foo.avi, it will be considered
(incorrectly) a movie.

Now that I know the filenames, the right commands are:

cd /media/sda7/Movies
avimerge -o O_Jerusalem.avi -i "Jerusalem I.avi" "Jerusalem II.avi"

I recommend you copy and paste the second.  Note the -i is required, and
after "Jerusalem I.avi" there is a space, which is very important
(otherwise it will think there is only one input with the wrong name).
Afterwards, post the output from avimerge then do:

ls -alh *Jer*

and post that too

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 18 00:09:28 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:09:28 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901170459.58057.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4970BC5D.9000207@gatech.edu>
	<497112F2.2050207@verizon.net>
	<200901170459.58057.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49727338.5020409@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I thought perhaps mv might move
> the file without leaving a copy behind.

That's right.

> Am I correct that things move faster when worked from the konsole?

Probably a little, but not significantly.  However, I often find it easier.

  I am still
> faced with laughter; I get so happy when things happen as they are supposed 
> to.    I am still having trouble getting the joined movie to play.

See my other post just now.  You still had the command slightly wrong.

Matt Flaschen




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 01:33:30 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:33:30 -0500
Subject: The amd64 question again.
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901171151p77598351qfc158a6e40b73ab8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00901170724t2320d097iee1bf92976b1b56e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4972328B.4040802@gmail.com>
	<880dece00901171151p77598351qfc158a6e40b73ab8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901172033.30929.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> That is encouraging, especially as my last real attempt at moving to
> 64 bit was in fact two years ago this month. (I cannot believe that
> this computer is two years old! or my daughter for that matter!)

Finally there is something that I can give advice on.  Dear Dotan, hearing 
that you have a 2 year old daughter is a happy thought.  And although my 
daughter is 35 years older, I will tell you something you should know.

Your love for your daughter will increase every year you live.  Early years 
are wonderful, but they just keep getting better.  Your only regrets over the 
years are the number of times you let other things become more important than 
her.  The times when you said I am too busy right now.  Or can't we put that 
off until next weekend.

It is hard to believe that you will love them so much that you regret the loss 
of that time, but you will.

My Advice.

Don't put other things first, and don't put off anything.  You won't ever 
regret that.  Additionally, there will be a day, when you are looking down at 
your 30+ year old daughter and she will be neck nuzzling her little girl.  
When you see this, you will not only be touched by the love, you will have 
the thought that you would like to neck nuzzle, not your granddaughter but, 
your daughter too.  

My advice, do it.

I knelt down and neck nuzzled my daughter for that very reason.  She looked at 
me and said, "awe Dad, why did you do that with loving eyes".  I 
said, "remember this daughter, when I saw you neck nuzzling Emmie with such 
love, I was overcome with the selfsame desire, I just had to, I love you so 
much."  Our life immediated changed from great to even greater.  She 
understood that the love you feel for your loved ones grows and grows.  She 
also, and for the first time, realized how much I love her, by relating to 
how she was feeling about her own little girl that moment.

We have been super close from then on.  No more once in a while phone calls 
and emails.  Each and every day, sometimes 50 times do we talk and write.  
When I am down in spirits, I write her a simple, "I love you daughter."  
Almost immediately I get back a, "me too, DAD".  It melts away depression.

Enjoy your little girl and take my advice.  It is the best advice I have ever 
given.

Your friend,
Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 01:52:23 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:52:23 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <497272BD.6020508@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901170524.48675.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<497272BD.6020508@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901172052.23943.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

> In all of these other ones you posted, it can't find the inputs,
> probably because you renamed them.
Is there a way to find that information, so that I can correct the problem?  Is there a way to open the file?

> > steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem.avi 1.avi
> > 2.avi
That was advice from someone else.  When I compared the results, I got the same results naming them correctly or 1.avi 2.avi.  It may still work if I get the other problem solved; and on long names that could be a benefit.
 
> ls -alh *Jer*
steven at Studio25:~$ cd /media/sda7/Movies
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem -i "O Jerusalem I" "O Jerusalem II"
scanning file O Jerusalem I for video/audio parameter
AVI open: avilib - Error opening AVI file
REASON: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ ls -alh *Jer*
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven   46 2009-01-16 10:49 O Jerusalem.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 702M 2007-04-15 15:33 O Jerusalem I.avi
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 701M 2007-04-15 15:35 O Jerusalem II.avi
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$

Thanks friend.  For the first time that things haven't worked out, I understand why.  Now, to figure out a way to solve the why.

Cordially,
Steven
> and post that too
>
> Matt Flaschen


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From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 18 02:37:47 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:37:47 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901172052.23943.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901170524.48675.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<497272BD.6020508@gatech.edu>
	<200901172052.23943.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <497295FB.2070901@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> In all of these other ones you posted, it can't find the inputs,
>> probably because you renamed them.
> Is there a way to find that information, so that I can correct the problem?  Is there a way to open the file?
> 
>>> steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem.avi 1.avi
>>> 2.avi
> That was advice from someone else.

1.avi was a "meta-variable".  You were supposed to replace 1.avi with
the name of the first file, in this case "O Jerusalem I.avi"

> steven at Studio25:~$ cd /media/sda7/Movies
> steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O_Jerusalem -i "O Jerusalem I" "O Jerusalem II"

That's not the command line I gave you (you dropped the .avi extension,
which the files now have).  Run exactly this:

cd /media/sda7/Movies
avimerge -o O_Jerusalem.avi -i "Jerusalem I.avi" "Jerusalem II.avi"

> Thanks friend.  For the first time that things haven't worked out, I understand why.

Good.

> Now, to figure out a way to solve the why.

As I said above, you forgot the .avi extension on the inputs.

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 02:52:30 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:52:30 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <4972706A.6070503@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901170530.39849.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4972706A.6070503@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901172152.30832.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> > I tried the GUI avidemux and I remember something that paused me.  I am
> > thinking that possibly the movie O Jerusalem may have been a .rar.
>
> No, I doubt that.  According to file (this program tells you what kind
> of file something is) they were both AVI movies.
Dear Matt,
I tried to find a tutorial to see how to work the avidemux gui.  I wasn't ablt 
to get an instruction that started at my level of understanding.  I tried all 
the options, I thought, but never could get to a place where I could combine 
the two files.

Here is what I did:

Open>File System>Media>sda7>Movies>O Jerusalem I.avi

I get Packed Bitstream detected
Do you want me to unpack it?
I clicked Yes.

A progress window opened.  When it closed, I got a black screen.  I clicked 
play and I got a memory-weak playing of the movie, so I closed all other 
activities.  It still was a little memory weak, but played with some 
stuttering of the sound.  At this point what do I do?  Or should I not have 
clicked on Play and clicked on something else?  Thanks!

Steven




From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 18 02:55:51 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:55:51 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901172152.30832.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901170530.39849.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4972706A.6070503@gatech.edu>
	<200901172152.30832.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49729A37.3000204@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>>> I tried the GUI avidemux and I remember something that paused me.  I am
>>> thinking that possibly the movie O Jerusalem may have been a .rar.
>> No, I doubt that.  According to file (this program tells you what kind
>> of file something is) they were both AVI movies.
> Dear Matt,
> I tried to find a tutorial to see how to work the avidemux gui.

Sorry, I don't know how to use avidemux.

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 02:58:19 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:58:19 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901161710.17909.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901161000.24323.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901161710.17909.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901172158.19213.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

> You can install the package "avidemux" or "avidemux-qt" and you will find
> the program in K-menu -> Multimedia.
Dear Nils,

Both avidemux and avidemux-qt installed when I installed avidemux.

After installation here is what I did:

Open>File System>Media>sda7>Movies>O Jerusalem I.avi

I got:  Packed Bitstream detected
         Do you want me to unpack it?
         I clicked Yes.

A progress window opened the file.  When it closed, I got a black screen.  I 
clicked play and I got a memory-weak playing of the movie, so I closed all 
other activities.  It still was a little memory weak, but played with some 
stuttering of the sound.  At this point what do I do?  Or should I not have 
clicked on Play and clicked on something else?  Thanks!

Steven





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 04:55:30 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:55:30 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <497295FB.2070901@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901172052.23943.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<497295FB.2070901@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901172355.30907.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> That's not the command line I gave you (you dropped the .avi extension,
> which the files now have).  Run exactly this:
>
> cd /media/sda7/Movies
> avimerge -o O_Jerusalem.avi -i "Jerusalem I.avi" "Jerusalem II.avi"

I have been receiving recommendations from several helpful Posters.  The 1.avi 2.avi was suggested as the same as you indicated.  I have done it both ways and got the same result.  I have tried many other ways too.  Below I will show you the results of doing it your way.

steven at Studio25:~$ cd /Media/sda7/Movies
bash: cd: /Media/sda7/Movies: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~$ cd /media/sda7/Movies
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O-Jerusalem.avi -i "O Jerusalem I.avi" "O Jerusalem II.avi"
scanning file O Jerusalem I.avi for video/audio parameter
[avilib] V: 25.000 fps, codec=XVID, frames=97864, width=608, height=256
[avilib] A: 48000 Hz, format=0x2000, bits=0, channels=6, bitrate=448 kbps,
[avilib]    97853 chunks, 219215360 bytes, CBR
merging multiple AVI-files (concatenating) ...
file 01 O Jerusalem I.avi
[O Jerusalem I.avi] (000000-097863) (3914560.00 <-> 3914560.00)
file 02 O Jerusalem II.avi
[O Jerusalem II.avi] (097864-187014) (7480600.00 <-> 7480600.00)
... done merging 2 file(s) in O-Jerusalem.avi
[avilib] V: 25.000 fps, codec=XVID, frames=187015, width=608, height=256
[avilib] A: 48000 Hz, format=0x2000, bits=0, channels=6, bitrate=448 kbps,
[avilib]    186993 chunks, 418913600 bytes, CBR
steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$

It worked!!!!!!!  When it was working I noticed an error I made in typing in the output.  I put a '-' instead of an '_'.  Before I used the underscore and it did not work.  I have tried a bunch of times.  Did my computer just give up on me and help me anyway?  I would thing that error would have made it not work.  Additionally, your example left out the 'O' in O Jerusalem, and I entered it thinking that was an oversight.

You can't believe how excited I got when things started to happen.  Is there any possibility that the '-' was the correct way to join the O to the Jerusalem?  In any event, I am pretty thrilled.  Thanks friend.

By the way, when I change the color of the type indicating the point of interest, does it print that way on your end?  I made the output O-Jerusalem in Red.

Steven
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From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 18 06:14:17 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:14:17 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901172355.30907.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901172052.23943.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<497295FB.2070901@gatech.edu>
	<200901172355.30907.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4972C8B9.3070304@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> That's not the command line I gave you (you dropped the .avi
>> extension, which the files now have).  Run exactly this:
>> 
>> cd /media/sda7/Movies avimerge -o O_Jerusalem.avi -i "Jerusalem
>> I.avi" "Jerusalem II.avi"

Sorry, I dropped the "O " out of carelessness.

> steven at Studio25:~$ cd /media/sda7/Movies
> steven at Studio25:/media/sda7/Movies$ avimerge -o O-Jerusalem.avi -i "O Jerusalem I.avi" "O Jerusalem II.avi"

[snip]

> ... done merging 2 file(s) in O-Jerusalem.avi

[snip]

> It worked!!!!!!!

:)  Did you try playing it all the way through yet?

> When it was working I noticed an error I made in typing in the
> output.  I put a '-' instead of an '_'.  Before I used the underscore
> and it did not work.

It failed earlier because you spelled the input files wrong.  It was
unrelated to the underscore in the output file.

> Did my computer just give up on me and help me anyway?

No, we got the command just right finally. :)

> Additionally, your example left out the 'O' in O Jerusalem, and I
> entered it thinking that was an oversight.

Ah, you're right! I did miss that the last couple times.  I'm very
sorry.  I'm glad you figured that out.

> Is there any possibility that the '-' was the correct way to join the
> O to the Jerusalem?

It doesn't matter because it's in the output (the program creates the
output file, and it doesn't need to have any relation to the input
name).  You could name it
SuesExcellentAdventure.avi if you wanted (wouldn't make much sense, but
you could).

> By the way, when I change the color of the type indicating the point
> of interest, does it print that way on your end?

It does if I set my email to HTML.  However, it is better netiquette to
send in plain text, and that is how I prefer to read it.  Also, the font
you use is very large.

Matt Flaschen




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 08:07:43 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:07:43 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <4972C8B9.3070304@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901172355.30907.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4972C8B9.3070304@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901180307.43983.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

Dear Matt,

Do you know how to merge 2 .rar's?

Steven





From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 18 08:15:57 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:15:57 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901180307.43983.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901172355.30907.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4972C8B9.3070304@gatech.edu>
	<200901180307.43983.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4972E53D.4010806@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> Dear Matt,
> 
> Do you know how to merge 2 .rar's?

RAR is an archive file, so it's different.  Can you start by cd'ing to
the folder where the rars are then running:

ls -lh *.rar
sudo apt-get install unrar-free
unrar-free -t *.rar

P.S. You were able to fully play the merged AVI?

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 08:26:14 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:26:14 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
Message-ID: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I downloaded a movie "Swing Vote".  It came in two parts and both are .rar's.  
Is it possible to merge Rar folders using Kubuntu Hardy KDE 3.5.10?  TIA

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 18 08:33:53 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:33:53 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4972E971.8060009@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I downloaded a movie "Swing Vote".  It came in two parts and both are .rar's.  
> Is it possible to merge Rar folders using Kubuntu Hardy KDE 3.5.10?  TIA

Like I said, you first want to know what's in the rars.  So run:

unrar -t *.rar

Matt Flaschen



From miron.florea at web.de  Sun Jan 18 09:16:22 2009
From: miron.florea at web.de (Octavian Florea)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:16:22 +0200
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4972F366.2090809@web.de>

A rar file (not folder) is an archive - it stores and compresses content.
The rars you have may be a split archive (if their name is 
something.rar.part1, something.rar.part2), in which case all you have to 
do is to extract the first one, as the second will be extracted 
automatically. If it is not a split archive, then you will have to 
extract each of them in turn. Either way, when done, you will get all 
the content from both rars.



From kassube at gmx.net  Sun Jan 18 09:49:29 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:49:29 +0100
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901172158.19213.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901161710.17909.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901172158.19213.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901181049.29886.kassube@gmx.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> > You can install the package "avidemux" or "avidemux-qt" and you will
> > find the program in K-menu -> Multimedia.
>
> Both avidemux and avidemux-qt installed when I installed avidemux.

OK, then which one did you select from the Multimedia menu? They 
are "Avidemux (GTK+)" and "Avidemux (QT)". I'll describe it for the QT 
version but it is very similar if not identical with the GTK+ version.

> After installation here is what I did:
>
> Open>File System>Media>sda7>Movies>O Jerusalem I.avi
>
> A progress window opened the file.  When it closed, I got a black
> screen.  

That was the first picture of the movie. For other movies it may not be a 
black screen.

> I clicked play and I got a memory-weak playing of the movie, 
> so I closed all other activities.  It still was a little memory weak,
> but played with some stuttering of the sound.  

Well, that probably depends on your machine but it isn't important because 
the sound of the final movie isn't recorded while playing the movie but 
it is derived from the original data of the movie file. Actually it is 
copied if you don't change the default settings.

> At this point what do I do?  Or should I not have
> clicked on Play and clicked on something else?

That was OK so far, now you should append the second movie. 
Select "Append..." from the "File" menu. Select the second movie and 
click "Open". You can append more files if necessary using this method. 
Finally save the combined video with "File" -> "Save" -> "Save Video...". 
Enter a new name for the video (use a ".avi" extension) and click "Save".


Nils



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 15:39:32 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:39:32 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901181049.29886.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901172158.19213.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901181049.29886.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901181039.32751.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> That was OK so far, now you should append the second movie.
> Select "Append..." from the "File" menu. Select the second movie and
> click "Open". You can append more files if necessary using this method.
> Finally save the combined video with "File" -> "Save" -> "Save Video...".
> Enter a new name for the video (use a ".avi" extension) and click "Save".

Thanks Nils, however, last night I had a ball.  After understanding the 
process using the konsole, I joined about a dozen movies using avimerge.  I 
laughed for hours, I was having so much fun.  When I typed in the '-o' 
or '-i', I would laugh, because I would see those symbols as output and 
input.  And doing the work with understanding was just glorious.

In fact, I can't wait to absorb the logic of each of the commands and 
arguments and their reasons for being applied as they are.  It makes a person 
feel more intelligent, something I rarely get the experience of feeling.  And 
I really don't believe I am as stupid as I appear.  I seriously don't think I 
can get a joining of avi's experience to happen as fast with a GUI, now.  I 
could never get the satisfaction of seeing the computer take off after being 
told what to do properly.  Exhilarating is the only description that 
qualifies.

Thanks though for the GUI instruction.  I want to conquer it too.  Perhaps 
then I can, from time to time, do my part in helping others.  You guys are so 
great.

Cordially,
Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 16:03:36 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:03:36 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <4972E53D.4010806@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901180307.43983.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4972E53D.4010806@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901181103.36488.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Sunday 18 January 2009 3:15:57 am Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> > Dear Matt,
> >
> > Do you know how to merge 2 .rar's?
>
> RAR is an archive file, so it's different.  Can you start by cd'ing to
> the folder where the rars are then running:
>
> ls -lh *.rar
> sudo apt-get install unrar-free

I already have newest version installed.

> unrar-free -t *.rar


steven at Studio25:~$ cd /media/sdb5/Films
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$ unrar-free -t *.rar
unrar-free: invalid archive '*.rar': Bad address
Usage: unrar-free [OPTION...] ARCHIVE [FILE...] [DESTINATION]
Try `unrar-free --help' or `unrar-free --usage' for more infor
mation.
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$ unrar-free --help
Usage: unrar-free [OPTION...] ARCHIVE [FILE...] [DESTINATION]
Extract files from rar archives.

  -x, --extract              Extract files from archive (defau                                                                 
lt)
  -t, --list                 List files in archive
  -f, --force                Overwrite files when extracting
      --extract-newer        Only extract newer files from the                                                                  
archive
      --extract-no-paths     Don't create directories while ex                                                                 
tracting
  -p, --password             Decrypt archive using a password
  -?, --help                 Give this help list
      --usage                Give a short usage message
  -V, --version              Print program version

Report bugs to <benasselstine at canada.com>.
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$ unrar-free --usage
Usage: unrar-free [-xtfp?V] [--extract] [--list] [--force] [--                                                                 
extract-newer]
            [--extract-no-paths] [--password] [--help] [--usag                                                                 
e] [--version]
            ARCHIVE [FILE...] [DESTINATION]
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$

I did not understand where I was going with the last command, so I couldn't 
understand what I might get from help or usage.  Here we go again, but I am 
excited.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 16:05:46 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:05:46 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <4972F366.2090809@web.de>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4972F366.2090809@web.de>
Message-ID: <200901181105.47032.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Sunday 18 January 2009 4:16:22 am Octavian Florea wrote:
> A rar file (not folder) is an archive - it stores and compresses content.
> The rars you have may be a split archive (if their name is
> something.rar.part1, something.rar.part2), in which case all you have to
> do is to extract the first one, as the second will be extracted
> automatically. If it is not a split archive, then you will have to
> extract each of them in turn. Either way, when done, you will get all
> the content from both rars.

Right now, they both play, but when the movie gets to the part where the 
second part should start automatically, I have to click on the second part to 
resume the movie.  Is it possible to join them there so that play is 
continuous?

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 18 16:17:08 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:17:08 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901181105.47032.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4972F366.2090809@web.de>
	<200901181105.47032.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49735604.3020607@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Sunday 18 January 2009 4:16:22 am Octavian Florea wrote:
>> A rar file (not folder) is an archive - it stores and compresses content.
>> The rars you have may be a split archive (if their name is
>> something.rar.part1, something.rar.part2), in which case all you have to
>> do is to extract the first one, as the second will be extracted
>> automatically. If it is not a split archive, then you will have to
>> extract each of them in turn. Either way, when done, you will get all
>> the content from both rars.
> 
> Right now, they both play, 

With what?

> but when the movie gets to the part where the 
> second part should start automatically, I have to click on the second part to 
> resume the movie.

This suggests that they are not actually RAR archives.

> Is it possible to join them there so that play is 
> continuous?

Run:

file *.rar

in the directory where they both are.

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 16:22:20 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:22:20 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <4972E971.8060009@gatech.edu>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4972E971.8060009@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901181122.20394.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Sunday 18 January 2009 3:33:53 am Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> unrar -t *.rar

Is this the commad I develope to make the joining?

unrar <command> -<switch 1> -<switch N> <archive> <files...>
               <@listfiles...> <path_to_extract\>

The .rar I want to join is "Swing Vote I"  "Swing Vote II".  Do I rename 
them "Swing Vote I.rar" "Swing Vote II.rar" first?

Then is it:

cd /media/sdb5/Films$ unrar e Swing Vote.rar -ad "Swing Vote I.rar" "Swing 
Vote II.rar"

I am trying to take from avimerge what I can.  Am I thinking in a logical 
manner?

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 18 16:29:12 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:29:12 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <49735604.3020607@gatech.edu>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4972F366.2090809@web.de>	<200901181105.47032.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49735604.3020607@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <497358D8.1050803@gatech.edu>

Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Run:
> 
> file *.rar
> 
> in the directory where they both are.

Okay, make that:

file Swing*

Matt Flaschen



From linux_milano at yahoo.it  Sun Jan 18 16:42:56 2009
From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (Pol)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:42:56 +0100
Subject: konqueror crashes on ebay
Message-ID: <gkvm9v$973$1@ger.gmane.org>

Konqueror on hardy crashes on ebay.com
Apparently that is due to a bug in kdelibs4c2a
If that is the case, hardy being a long term support release, is a fixed lib
available, from any place?

Thank you
--
Pol




From linux_milano at yahoo.it  Sun Jan 18 16:49:17 2009
From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (Pol)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:49:17 +0100
Subject: knode times out
References: <gksaso$rkl$1@ger.gmane.org> <gktn0j$irm$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <gkvmir$a56$1@ger.gmane.org>

andrew heggie wrote:

> Change the server timeout?> 
> settings->configure knode->accounts newsgroupserver->edit->server timeout
> 

Increased 60 s  to 110 s 
Also set 'hold connection' to 435 s, but i am not sure what it is

Things seem to go better. 

Thank you
--
Pol




From donn.ingle at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 17:07:00 2009
From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:07:00 +0200
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901181907.00791.donn.ingle@gmail.com>

Some more file basics:

File names:
---------
It's *vitally* important that you always include *everything* in a name.
1. You can't leave the dot blah off the end.
2. You can't leave spaces out (if they are in there to start with)
3. You can't change upper and lower case.

If you want to do something with a file name, then the best rule-of-thumb is 
to put it into quotes:
"my file from the Internet.avi"

So: I do *not* describe that file by:
my file from the Internet
"my file from the Internet"
"my File from the internet"

All of those are wrong. 

"The name is the name is the name. 
Every character exactly the same."
:D

File paths:
------
If you are *not* in the same directory where your files live, then you need to 
use paths + the file name:
"/home/steve/my file from the Internet.avi"
Put quotes around the whole thing.

It's always easier and better to be in the *same* place as the files you are 
working on. So, use cd (change directory) to go there first.

File types - from the command-line:
--------
When you want to know what *type* of file you have, use the file command:
file "my file from the Internet.avi"

It seems dumb to include the .avi there, but not all file names have the 
extension at the end.




hth,
\d



From donn.ingle at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 17:07:50 2009
From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:07:50 +0200
Subject: konqueror crashes on ebay
In-Reply-To: <gkvm9v$973$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <gkvm9v$973$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200901181907.50776.donn.ingle@gmail.com>

On Sunday, 18 January 2009 18:42:56 Pol wrote:
> lib available, from any place?

Mozilla.com

:D

\d



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Sun Jan 18 16:51:02 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:51:02 -0400
Subject: Linux and "offline folders"
References: <4966F464.2040408@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <n83c46-ndj.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

O. Sinclair wrote:

> Maybe someone can assist on this. I have (and am still) searched the
> internet for information on how one can implement the windows concept of
> "offline folders" in a linux client environment.

It seemed amazing to me that nobody had apparently done this, since it 
should be relatively simple with FUSE.   So I entered the amazingly complex 
query "linux offline filesystem" into Google and got this as the first hit:

http://www.vertical-visions.de/2009/01/07/ofs-offline-file-system-on-
ubuntu-810/

It looks like it aims to be exactly what you want, if you're willing to 
settle for Samba as the network component.  otoh, I'm not sure whether it's 
ever been finished.





From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Sun Jan 18 17:48:46 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:48:46 -0500
Subject: Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <200901170918.38732.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>
	<200901162050.49370.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901170918.38732.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901181248.46400.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Saturday 17 January 2009, Nils Kassube wrote:
> > Where is the list of books?  I may be able to add a couple.

http://www.unixguide.net/linux/linuxshortcuts.shtml



From d.mcglone at att.net  Sun Jan 18 18:21:57 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:21:57 -0500
Subject: choppy .mov in kaffeine
Message-ID: <200901181321.58034.d.mcglone@att.net>

Has anyone experienced playing choppy sound with .mov files  played with 
kaffeine or dragon player? They play fine in vlc and Mplayer, but I can't 
stand Mplayer, I want to use Kaffeine. 

I've googled and tried all kinds of things and I can't figure out why the 
sound just keeps cutting in and out only on .mov files.

Any Ideas?
Thanks,
-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From tycho at tycho.ws  Sun Jan 18 18:32:13 2009
From: tycho at tycho.ws (Tycho Andersen)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:32:13 -0600
Subject: Meta Key
Message-ID: <49b3a7400901181032t9a04e70sbae3bfc1b09f7eb1@mail.gmail.com>

All:

After poking around in the hotkey menus for a while, I couldn't find a
way to change the meta key (currently ALT) to something more sensible,
like the "windows" key. Can anyone tell me how to do this in 8.10?

Tycho



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 19:07:08 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:07:08 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <49735604.3020607@gatech.edu>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901181105.47032.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49735604.3020607@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901181407.08900.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> > Right now, they both play,
>
> With what?

Kaffeine Player
>
> > but when the movie gets to the part where the
> > second part should start automatically, I have to click on the second
> > part to resume the movie.
>
> This suggests that they are not actually RAR archives.

ssp-sv2008-a.r00
ssp-sv2008-a.r01

This is the way they are listed.  Aren't these .rar's?

> file *.rar
>
> in the directory where they both are.

cdsteven at Studio25:~$ cd /media/sdb5/Films
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$ file *.rar
*.rar: ERROR: cannot open `*.rar' (No such file or directory)
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$

The movie is called Swing Vote.  It is in two parts, Swing Vote I and Swing 
Vote II.  I think it is the only .rar in that directory.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 19:09:32 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:09:32 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <497358D8.1050803@gatech.edu>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49735604.3020607@gatech.edu> <497358D8.1050803@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901181409.32924.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

.
>
> Okay, make that:
>
> file Swing*
cdsteven at Studio25:~$ cd /media/sdb5/Films
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$ file *.rar
*.rar: ERROR: cannot open `*.rar' (No such file or directory)
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$ file Swing*
Swing Vote I:  directory
Swing Vote II: directory
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 18 19:15:14 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:15:14 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901181409.32924.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49735604.3020607@gatech.edu>
	<497358D8.1050803@gatech.edu>
	<200901181409.32924.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49737FC2.9000906@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> .
>> Okay, make that:
>>
>> file Swing*
> cdsteven at Studio25:~$ cd /media/sdb5/Films
> steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$ file *.rar
> *.rar: ERROR: cannot open `*.rar' (No such file or directory)
> steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$ file Swing*
> Swing Vote I:  directory
> Swing Vote II: directory

They're not files of any type, they're folders/directories, which you
perhaps extracted from rars.

Run:

ls -al Swing*

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 18 19:16:08 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:16:08 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901181407.08900.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901181105.47032.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49735604.3020607@gatech.edu>
	<200901181407.08900.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49737FF8.1080503@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>>> Right now, they both play,
>> With what?
> 
> Kaffeine Player
>>> but when the movie gets to the part where the
>>> second part should start automatically, I have to click on the second
>>> part to resume the movie.
>> This suggests that they are not actually RAR archives.
> 
> ssp-sv2008-a.r00
> ssp-sv2008-a.r01
> 
> This is the way they are listed.  Aren't these .rar's?

Probably not, and where are those files (you only gave the directory
names before)?

Can you run file on them?

Matt Flaschen



From jonorland at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 19:19:24 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:19:24 +0100
Subject: Meta Key
In-Reply-To: <49b3a7400901181032t9a04e70sbae3bfc1b09f7eb1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49b3a7400901181032t9a04e70sbae3bfc1b09f7eb1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901181119rf1a19a6r91d5339c4765ffca@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/18 Tycho Andersen <tycho at tycho.ws>:
> All:
>
> After poking around in the hotkey menus for a while, I couldn't find a
> way to change the meta key (currently ALT) to something more sensible,
> like the "windows" key. Can anyone tell me how to do this in 8.10?
>
> Tycho

Was a long time ago i had problems with meta keys in linux. Are you
really sure you have meta on your ALT key can you switch console with
CTRL-ALT-F1 or run krunner with ALT-F2? It could be that you have
activated some settings in System Settings>Region Language>Keyboard
Layout.

/ Jonas



From ignazio_io at yahoo.it  Sun Jan 18 19:37:56 2009
From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:37:56 +0000
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <49737FF8.1080503@gatech.edu>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901181105.47032.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49735604.3020607@gatech.edu>	<200901181407.08900.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49737FF8.1080503@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <49738514.4010608@yahoo.it>

Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>> Right now, they both play,
>>> With what?
>> Kaffeine Player
>>>> but when the movie gets to the part where the
>>>> second part should start automatically, I have to click on the second
>>>> part to resume the movie.
>>> This suggests that they are not actually RAR archives.
>> ssp-sv2008-a.r00
>> ssp-sv2008-a.r01
>>
>> This is the way they are listed.  Aren't these .rar's?
> 
> Probably not, and where are those files (you only gave the directory
> names before)?

 From the names, they look parts of a multipart rar archive. Unrar 
should be able to extract the contents (I imagine they contain a single 
big file).
HTH,
I.

> 
> Can you run file on them?
> 
> Matt Flaschen
> 




From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 18 20:09:00 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:09:00 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901181103.36488.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901180307.43983.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4972E53D.4010806@gatech.edu>
	<200901181103.36488.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49738C5C.3080502@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> steven at Studio25:~$ cd /media/sdb5/Films
> steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$ unrar-free -t *.rar

There are no .rar files in the current folder, so it is thinking *.rar
(literally a star then a period, then rar) is a file.  See my other
emails on this.

Matt Flaschen




From tycho at tycho.ws  Sun Jan 18 20:11:58 2009
From: tycho at tycho.ws (Tycho Andersen)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:11:58 -0600
Subject: Meta Key
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901181119rf1a19a6r91d5339c4765ffca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49b3a7400901181032t9a04e70sbae3bfc1b09f7eb1@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901181119rf1a19a6r91d5339c4765ffca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49b3a7400901181211l1092b725m7fdda24ee897ab5a@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Jonas Norlander <jonorland at gmail.com> wrote:
> Was a long time ago i had problems with meta keys in linux. Are you
> really sure you have meta on your ALT key can you switch console with
> CTRL-ALT-F1 or run krunner with ALT-F2? It could be that you have
> activated some settings in System Settings>Region Language>Keyboard
> Layout.

Thanks, but I have keyboard layouts disabled. I want to switch the
meta key because I'm used to having it be the Windows key. I had it
configured this way before, but I just recently did a new install and
now I can't seem to find the option again.

Tycho



From jonorland at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 20:51:50 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:51:50 +0100
Subject: Meta Key
In-Reply-To: <49b3a7400901181211l1092b725m7fdda24ee897ab5a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49b3a7400901181032t9a04e70sbae3bfc1b09f7eb1@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901181119rf1a19a6r91d5339c4765ffca@mail.gmail.com>
	<49b3a7400901181211l1092b725m7fdda24ee897ab5a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901181251k53deefb7x1cc63d18e2e15bec@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/18 Tycho Andersen <tycho at tycho.ws>:
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Jonas Norlander <jonorland at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Was a long time ago i had problems with meta keys in linux. Are you
>> really sure you have meta on your ALT key can you switch console with
>> CTRL-ALT-F1 or run krunner with ALT-F2? It could be that you have
>> activated some settings in System Settings>Region Language>Keyboard
>> Layout.
>
> Thanks, but I have keyboard layouts disabled. I want to switch the
> meta key because I'm used to having it be the Windows key. I had it
> configured this way before, but I just recently did a new install and
> now I can't seem to find the option again.
>
> Tycho
>

As default meta is the Win key on a normal PC keyboard so there must
be some settings you changed or you have a strange keyboard. Have you
checked your xorg.conf?

/ Jonas



From tycho at tycho.ws  Sun Jan 18 21:09:51 2009
From: tycho at tycho.ws (Tycho Andersen)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:09:51 -0600
Subject: Meta Key
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901181251k53deefb7x1cc63d18e2e15bec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49b3a7400901181032t9a04e70sbae3bfc1b09f7eb1@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901181119rf1a19a6r91d5339c4765ffca@mail.gmail.com>
	<49b3a7400901181211l1092b725m7fdda24ee897ab5a@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901181251k53deefb7x1cc63d18e2e15bec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49b3a7400901181309h35510241yd2cb528293f7fb25@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Jonas Norlander <jonorland at gmail.com> wrote:
> As default meta is the Win key on a normal PC keyboard so there must
> be some settings you changed or you have a strange keyboard. Have you
> checked your xorg.conf?

Here's the relevant lines (this was all auto-generated by nvidia-xconfig):

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection

Maybe I'm not using the right keyboard driver? I thought I selected
104 keys during the install.

Tycho



From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Sun Jan 18 21:53:30 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:53:30 -0500
Subject: Meta Key
In-Reply-To: <49b3a7400901181309h35510241yd2cb528293f7fb25@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49b3a7400901181032t9a04e70sbae3bfc1b09f7eb1@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901181251k53deefb7x1cc63d18e2e15bec@mail.gmail.com>
	<49b3a7400901181309h35510241yd2cb528293f7fb25@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901181653.30722.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Sunday 18 January 2009, Tycho Andersen wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Jonas Norlander <jonorland at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > As default meta is the Win key on a normal PC keyboard so there must
> > be some settings you changed or you have a strange keyboard. Have you
> > checked your xorg.conf?
>
> Here's the relevant lines (this was all auto-generated by nvidia-xconfig):
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>     # generated from default
>     Identifier     "Keyboard0"
>     Driver         "kbd"
> EndSection
>
> Maybe I'm not using the right keyboard driver? I thought I selected
> 104 keys during the install.
>
> Tycho


You might want to go to a console window (not X) and issue:

dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg

This will run you through a series of questions on how you want the X-server 
configured and included in those questions are a bunch about extra key 
settings.

It will ask you about some settings files that are contained <it will tell you 
where>  so you might want to move to another console session   alt-F<key>  to 
look in the directories mentioned.

I ran this about 5 times yesterday trying different keyboards because I have a 
problem with my left-arrow key (doesn't work at all) and although it didn't 
fix my problem,  nothing bad happened either.




From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Sun Jan 18 21:54:55 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:54:55 -0500
Subject: Meta Key
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901181251k53deefb7x1cc63d18e2e15bec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49b3a7400901181032t9a04e70sbae3bfc1b09f7eb1@mail.gmail.com>
	<49b3a7400901181211l1092b725m7fdda24ee897ab5a@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901181251k53deefb7x1cc63d18e2e15bec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901181654.55374.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Sunday 18 January 2009, Jonas Norlander wrote:
> As default meta is the Win key on a normal PC keyboard so there must
> be some settings you changed or you have a strange keyboard. Have you
> checked your xorg.conf?

I have a Windows key on the keybd I am using and it is NOT the meta key.

Alt-F2 brings up krunner.    <windows>-F2 does nothing.



From jonorland at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 21:55:33 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:55:33 +0100
Subject: Meta Key
In-Reply-To: <49b3a7400901181309h35510241yd2cb528293f7fb25@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49b3a7400901181032t9a04e70sbae3bfc1b09f7eb1@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901181119rf1a19a6r91d5339c4765ffca@mail.gmail.com>
	<49b3a7400901181211l1092b725m7fdda24ee897ab5a@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901181251k53deefb7x1cc63d18e2e15bec@mail.gmail.com>
	<49b3a7400901181309h35510241yd2cb528293f7fb25@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901181355g393bb22ao729e57d89e8ace61@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/18 Tycho Andersen <tycho at tycho.ws>:
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Jonas Norlander <jonorland at gmail.com> wrote:
>> As default meta is the Win key on a normal PC keyboard so there must
>> be some settings you changed or you have a strange keyboard. Have you
>> checked your xorg.conf?
>
> Here's the relevant lines (this was all auto-generated by nvidia-xconfig):
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>    # generated from default
>    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
>    Driver         "kbd"
> EndSection
>
> Maybe I'm not using the right keyboard driver? I thought I selected
> 104 keys during the install.
>
> Tycho

Perhaps you should activate the keyboard layout in System Settings. I
have it activated and has keyboard model i have evdev.



From jonorland at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 21:57:54 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:57:54 +0100
Subject: Meta Key
In-Reply-To: <200901181653.30722.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <49b3a7400901181032t9a04e70sbae3bfc1b09f7eb1@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901181251k53deefb7x1cc63d18e2e15bec@mail.gmail.com>
	<49b3a7400901181309h35510241yd2cb528293f7fb25@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901181653.30722.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901181357s47f1a925g5a1e05f8ca3f4cdc@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/18 Bruce Marshall <bmarsh at bmarsh.com>:
> On Sunday 18 January 2009, Tycho Andersen wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Jonas Norlander <jonorland at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> > As default meta is the Win key on a normal PC keyboard so there must
>> > be some settings you changed or you have a strange keyboard. Have you
>> > checked your xorg.conf?
>>
>> Here's the relevant lines (this was all auto-generated by nvidia-xconfig):
>>
>> Section "InputDevice"
>>     # generated from default
>>     Identifier     "Keyboard0"
>>     Driver         "kbd"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Maybe I'm not using the right keyboard driver? I thought I selected
>> 104 keys during the install.
>>
>> Tycho
>
>
> You might want to go to a console window (not X) and issue:
>
> dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg
>
> This will run you through a series of questions on how you want the X-server
> configured and included in those questions are a bunch about extra key
> settings.
>
> It will ask you about some settings files that are contained <it will tell you
> where>  so you might want to move to another console session   alt-F<key>  to
> look in the directories mentioned.

His ALT key don't work it is mapped as Meta for some reason but my
guess it is only in X so rebooting in safe mode and running that will
work.

/ Jonas



From tycho at tycho.ws  Sun Jan 18 22:00:41 2009
From: tycho at tycho.ws (Tycho Andersen)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:00:41 -0600
Subject: Meta Key [Resolved]
Message-ID: <49b3a7400901181400w5c8ea939la915d31b6a356beb@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks all!

For posterity: it turns out the setting I was looking for wasn't the
Meta key, but what's called the "Modifier Key" for kwin. This can be
found under System Settings -> Window Behavoir -> Window Actions. I
changed this from alt to meta, and all behaves as expected.

Tycho



From jonorland at gmail.com  Sun Jan 18 22:06:42 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:06:42 +0100
Subject: Meta Key
In-Reply-To: <200901181654.55374.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <49b3a7400901181032t9a04e70sbae3bfc1b09f7eb1@mail.gmail.com>
	<49b3a7400901181211l1092b725m7fdda24ee897ab5a@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901181251k53deefb7x1cc63d18e2e15bec@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901181654.55374.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901181406i1a677566gfdbfa6598f03b6fb@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/18 Bruce Marshall <bmarsh at bmarsh.com>:
> On Sunday 18 January 2009, Jonas Norlander wrote:
>> As default meta is the Win key on a normal PC keyboard so there must
>> be some settings you changed or you have a strange keyboard. Have you
>> checked your xorg.conf?
>
> I have a Windows key on the keybd I am using and it is NOT the meta key.
>
> Alt-F2 brings up krunner.    <windows>-F2 does nothing.
>

Yes thats true, the _ALT_ key and it's the default keyboard shortcut
in Kubuntu for krunner
The Alt key is not the same as the Meta key if it's that your hinting at?
Assigning a Win key combination for me in System Settings gives
Meta+key do you get anything else?

/ Jonas



From jtwdyp at ttlc.net  Sun Jan 18 22:16:41 2009
From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:16:41 -0500
Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc 4.6.2-pre1 from kubuntu repo???
In-Reply-To: <200901020336.28031.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
	<200901020336.28031.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901171232580.5878@localhost.localdomain>


It would appear that on Jan 2, Constantinos Maltezos did say:

> On Sunday 28 December 2008 10:01:50 pm Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > Would anybody know why? Or better yet, how to enable the shortcuts in
> > kubuntu???
> 
> In konsole, go to Settings->Edit Current Profile and select the Input
> tab.  There will be a few choices.  Not having used mc in a long time,
> I'm not sure which one will work, but I'd guess that "Linux console"
> would be the safest bet.

I finally got a chance to reboot into intrepid. So I tried each of the
input tab choices. (apply, ok) Then for each choice I opened a new mc
session and tested thew shortcuts by selecting a filename then typing:

echo <ctrl>+<enter>

In each case the results were as if I had typed:

echo <enter>

-{Sigh!}-

> If that doesn't work, I suggest installing xterm (the daddy of all
> Linux GUI terminal programs) and seeing if it works there.  If it
> does, let me know and I'll look for what else might be different
> about the two.

Did that too. Same results... -{sniffle}-

Just like the results with konsole, an xterm in kubuntu doesn't let
mc's <ctrl>+<enter> & <shift>+<ctrl>+<enter> shortcuts work.

Since these same shortcuts do work in kubuntu if I run mc in one of
the 6 virtual consoles. But (in kubuntu) they don't work from an either
xterm or konsole, I have to think the problem isn't exactly with
"konsole" and/or "xterm", but rather some other aspect of how kubuntu
implements the gui must be interfering with these bindings... 

But I still don't have a clue how to fix it...

-- 
|
|    ^^^   ^^^
|    <o>   <o>	     Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|	 ^   `		  J(tWdy)P
|	___	       <<jtwdyp at ttlc.net>>
|      '   `





From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Sun Jan 18 22:24:02 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:24:02 -0500
Subject: Fixed addresses for 8.04?
Message-ID: <200901181724.02969.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

Greetings;

I am trying to get a box with 8.04 on it, set up for a fixed network address.

Since it appears that the normal configuration (ifcfg-eth0 and friends) files 
have been deprecated and NM is doing it all, so how can I make it use a fixed 
local address?  Setting the hostname and hosts files up correctly doesn't do 
it. NM apparently ignores everything but the hostname.

Thanks.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Everything takes longer, costs more, and is less useful.
		-- Erwin Tomash



From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Sun Jan 18 22:26:06 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:26:06 -0500
Subject: kde4.2 kmail interface
Message-ID: <200901181726.06363.pkaplan1@comcast.net>

I find the kmail interface (1.11) pretty, but somewhat difficult to use.  Is 
there anyway to customize the columns presented in the message list pane?

Also, is there a way to flatten the listing of messages, i.e., each message 
takes up only one line, not two?

TIA
Paul



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 18 22:51:22 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:51:22 -0500
Subject: Fixed addresses for 8.04?
In-Reply-To: <200901181724.02969.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901181724.02969.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4973B26A.4000804@gatech.edu>

Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings;
> 
> I am trying to get a box with 8.04 on it, set up for a fixed network address.

sudo apt-get remove network-manager

Then put something like:

iface eth0 inet static
        address 192.168.0.100
        netmask 255.255.255.0
        network 192.168.0.0
        broadcast 192.168.0.255
        gateway 192.168.0.1

in

/etc/network/interfaces

See http://codesnippets.joyent.com/posts/show/319  and man  5 interfaces
for details.

> Since it appears that the normal configuration (ifcfg-eth0 and friends) files 
> have been deprecated and NM is doing it all,

Hardly.  Of course people are now going to tell you, "Just give NM one
more chance!".  It's a waste of time.

Matt Flaschen




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 23:46:11 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:46:11 -0500
Subject: Help for Steven
In-Reply-To: <200901181248.46400.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <200901160909.06012.atrypa@eskimo.com>
	<200901170918.38732.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901181248.46400.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <200901181846.12459.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> http://www.unixguide.net/linux/linuxshortcuts.shtml

Thanks Bruce.  This is something I have wanted for quite a while.  It always 
came to memory when I was unable to do anything about looking for it and 
never when I could.  Much appreciated.

Cordially,
Steven





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 18 23:50:53 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:50:53 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <49737FC2.9000906@gatech.edu>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901181409.32924.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49737FC2.9000906@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901181850.54019.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> They're not files of any type, they're folders/directories, which you
> perhaps extracted from rars.
>
> Run:
>
> ls -al Swing*

steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$ ls -al Swing*
Swing Vote I:
total 724496
drwxr-xr-x 2 steven steven     4096 2008-11-25 18:46 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 steven root       4096 2009-01-18 03:15 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven       22 2008-11-25 19:40 .d3lphinview
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven       49 2008-11-25 18:46 .directory
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:56 ssp-sv2008-a.r00
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:31 ssp-sv2008-a.r01
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:54 ssp-sv2008-a.r02
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:18 ssp-sv2008-a.r03
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:18 ssp-sv2008-a.r04
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:08 ssp-sv2008-a.r05
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:08 ssp-sv2008-a.r06
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:14 ssp-sv2008-a.r07
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:40 ssp-sv2008-a.r08
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r09
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r10
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:33 ssp-sv2008-a.r11
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:23 ssp-sv2008-a.r12
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:11 ssp-sv2008-a.r13
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:11 ssp-sv2008-a.r14
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:26 ssp-sv2008-a.r15
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r16
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:04 ssp-sv2008-a.r17
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:04 ssp-sv2008-a.r18
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r19
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:50 ssp-sv2008-a.r20
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 11:22 ssp-sv2008-a.r21
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 08:18 ssp-sv2008-a.r22
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:14 ssp-sv2008-a.r23
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:41 ssp-sv2008-a.r24
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:27 ssp-sv2008-a.r25
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:52 ssp-sv2008-a.r26
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:52 ssp-sv2008-a.r27
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:04 ssp-sv2008-a.r28
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:07 ssp-sv2008-a.r29
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:07 ssp-sv2008-a.r30
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:22 ssp-sv2008-a.r31
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:44 ssp-sv2008-a.r32
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:09 ssp-sv2008-a.r33
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 09:51 ssp-sv2008-a.r34
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:23 ssp-sv2008-a.r35
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:23 ssp-sv2008-a.r36
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:43 ssp-sv2008-a.r37
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:38 ssp-sv2008-a.r38
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:10 ssp-sv2008-a.r39
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:10 ssp-sv2008-a.r40
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:44 ssp-sv2008-a.r41
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:03 ssp-sv2008-a.r42
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r43
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:31 ssp-sv2008-a.r44
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:11 ssp-sv2008-a.r45
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:22 ssp-sv2008-a.r46
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:06 ssp-sv2008-a.r47
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  5667252 2008-11-23 19:06 ssp-sv2008-a.r48
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:40 ssp-sv2008-a.rar
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven     1350 2008-11-23 15:20 ssp-sv2008-a.sfv

Swing Vote II:
total 724636
drwxr-xr-x 2 steven steven     4096 2008-11-25 18:47 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 steven root       4096 2009-01-18 03:15 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven       22 2008-11-25 19:40 .d3lphinview
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven       49 2008-11-25 18:47 .directory
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:42 ssp-sv2008-b.r00
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 09:00 ssp-sv2008-b.r01
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 11:08 ssp-sv2008-b.r02
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:47 ssp-sv2008-b.r03
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:40 ssp-sv2008-b.r04
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:38 ssp-sv2008-b.r05
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:47 ssp-sv2008-b.r06
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:17 ssp-sv2008-b.r07
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:09 ssp-sv2008-b.r08
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:56 ssp-sv2008-b.r09
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:27 ssp-sv2008-b.r10
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:42 ssp-sv2008-b.r11
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:54 ssp-sv2008-b.r12
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:19 ssp-sv2008-b.r13
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:19 ssp-sv2008-b.r14
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 08:20 ssp-sv2008-b.r15
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:32 ssp-sv2008-b.r16
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:32 ssp-sv2008-b.r17
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:01 ssp-sv2008-b.r18
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:01 ssp-sv2008-b.r19
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:32 ssp-sv2008-b.r20
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:32 ssp-sv2008-b.r21
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:21 ssp-sv2008-b.r22
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:07 ssp-sv2008-b.r23
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:23 ssp-sv2008-b.r24
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 11:15 ssp-sv2008-b.r25
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 11:15 ssp-sv2008-b.r26
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:27 ssp-sv2008-b.r27
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:09 ssp-sv2008-b.r28
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 09:33 ssp-sv2008-b.r29
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:23 ssp-sv2008-b.r30
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:23 ssp-sv2008-b.r31
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:05 ssp-sv2008-b.r32
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:40 ssp-sv2008-b.r33
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:46 ssp-sv2008-b.r34
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:45 ssp-sv2008-b.r35
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:45 ssp-sv2008-b.r36
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:12 ssp-sv2008-b.r37
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:51 ssp-sv2008-b.r38
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:56 ssp-sv2008-b.r39
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:51 ssp-sv2008-b.r40
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 08:25 ssp-sv2008-b.r41
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:05 ssp-sv2008-b.r42
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:20 ssp-sv2008-b.r43
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:35 ssp-sv2008-b.r44
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:35 ssp-sv2008-b.r45
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:13 ssp-sv2008-b.r46
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:13 ssp-sv2008-b.r47
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  5812196 2008-11-23 06:35 ssp-sv2008-b.r48
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 14:53 ssp-sv2008-b.rar
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven     1350 2008-11-23 05:51 ssp-sv2008-b.sfv
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$                     

Doesn't it say .rar near the end?

Steven





From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Sun Jan 18 23:55:03 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:55:03 -0500
Subject: Fixed addresses for 8.04?
In-Reply-To: <200901181724.02969.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901181724.02969.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901181855.03585.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Sunday 18 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Since it appears that the normal configuration (ifcfg-eth0 and friends)
> files have been deprecated and NM is doing it all, so how can I make it use
> a fixed local address?  Setting the hostname and hosts files up correctly
> doesn't do it. NM apparently ignores everything but the hostname.

In 8.04 it should be as simple as going to:

system settings -->  network  settings  -->  <select interface> --> 

configure interface -->  <select manual>  -->  enter your IP address and 
netmask (usually  255.255.255.0)

Also set default gateway under  'routes'  and DNS under  Domain name system



From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Sun Jan 18 23:56:06 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:56:06 -0500
Subject: Meta Key
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901181406i1a677566gfdbfa6598f03b6fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49b3a7400901181032t9a04e70sbae3bfc1b09f7eb1@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901181654.55374.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
	<b8d784880901181406i1a677566gfdbfa6598f03b6fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901181856.06900.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Sunday 18 January 2009, Jonas Norlander wrote:
> The Alt key is not the same as the Meta key if it's that your hinting at?

I guess I've never had a need for a META key.



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 19 00:17:26 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:17:26 -0600
Subject: kde4.2 kmail interface
In-Reply-To: <200901181726.06363.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
References: <200901181726.06363.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <200901181817.27308.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Sunday 18 January 2009 4:26:06 pm Paul Kaplan wrote:
> I find the kmail interface (1.11) pretty, but somewhat difficult to use. 
> Is there anyway to customize the columns presented in the message list
> pane?
>
> Also, is there a way to flatten the listing of messages, i.e., each message
> takes up only one line, not two?
>
> TIA
> Paul

Above the message list, there's a search bar.  There are five buttons/icons to 
the right of it.  The one on the farthest right changes the appearance of the 
message list.  If you change it to "Classic", it makes each message take up 
one line.  To change the columns, choose "Configure", clone "Classic" and 
adjust it from there.



From godshatter at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 19 00:26:36 2009
From: godshatter at yahoo.com (Paul Rumelhart)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:26:36 -0800
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901181850.54019.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901181409.32924.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49737FC2.9000906@gatech.edu>
	<200901181850.54019.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4973C8BC.6090206@yahoo.com>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> They're not files of any type, they're folders/directories, which you
>> perhaps extracted from rars.
>>
>> Run:
>>
>> ls -al Swing*
>>     
>
> steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$ ls -al Swing*
> Swing Vote I:
> total 724496
> drwxr-xr-x 2 steven steven     4096 2008-11-25 18:46 .
> drwxr-xr-x 4 steven root       4096 2009-01-18 03:15 ..
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven       22 2008-11-25 19:40 .d3lphinview
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven       49 2008-11-25 18:46 .directory
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:56 ssp-sv2008-a.r00
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:31 ssp-sv2008-a.r01
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:54 ssp-sv2008-a.r02
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:18 ssp-sv2008-a.r03
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:18 ssp-sv2008-a.r04
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:08 ssp-sv2008-a.r05
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:08 ssp-sv2008-a.r06
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:14 ssp-sv2008-a.r07
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:40 ssp-sv2008-a.r08
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r09
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r10
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:33 ssp-sv2008-a.r11
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:23 ssp-sv2008-a.r12
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:11 ssp-sv2008-a.r13
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:11 ssp-sv2008-a.r14
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:26 ssp-sv2008-a.r15
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r16
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:04 ssp-sv2008-a.r17
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:04 ssp-sv2008-a.r18
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r19
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:50 ssp-sv2008-a.r20
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 11:22 ssp-sv2008-a.r21
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 08:18 ssp-sv2008-a.r22
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:14 ssp-sv2008-a.r23
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:41 ssp-sv2008-a.r24
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:27 ssp-sv2008-a.r25
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:52 ssp-sv2008-a.r26
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:52 ssp-sv2008-a.r27
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:04 ssp-sv2008-a.r28
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:07 ssp-sv2008-a.r29
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:07 ssp-sv2008-a.r30
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:22 ssp-sv2008-a.r31
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:44 ssp-sv2008-a.r32
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:09 ssp-sv2008-a.r33
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 09:51 ssp-sv2008-a.r34
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:23 ssp-sv2008-a.r35
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:23 ssp-sv2008-a.r36
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:43 ssp-sv2008-a.r37
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:38 ssp-sv2008-a.r38
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:10 ssp-sv2008-a.r39
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:10 ssp-sv2008-a.r40
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:44 ssp-sv2008-a.r41
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:03 ssp-sv2008-a.r42
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r43
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:31 ssp-sv2008-a.r44
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:11 ssp-sv2008-a.r45
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:22 ssp-sv2008-a.r46
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:06 ssp-sv2008-a.r47
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  5667252 2008-11-23 19:06 ssp-sv2008-a.r48
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:40 ssp-sv2008-a.rar
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven     1350 2008-11-23 15:20 ssp-sv2008-a.sfv
>
> Swing Vote II:
> total 724636
> drwxr-xr-x 2 steven steven     4096 2008-11-25 18:47 .
> drwxr-xr-x 4 steven root       4096 2009-01-18 03:15 ..
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven       22 2008-11-25 19:40 .d3lphinview
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven       49 2008-11-25 18:47 .directory
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:42 ssp-sv2008-b.r00
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 09:00 ssp-sv2008-b.r01
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 11:08 ssp-sv2008-b.r02
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:47 ssp-sv2008-b.r03
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:40 ssp-sv2008-b.r04
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:38 ssp-sv2008-b.r05
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:47 ssp-sv2008-b.r06
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:17 ssp-sv2008-b.r07
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:09 ssp-sv2008-b.r08
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:56 ssp-sv2008-b.r09
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:27 ssp-sv2008-b.r10
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:42 ssp-sv2008-b.r11
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:54 ssp-sv2008-b.r12
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:19 ssp-sv2008-b.r13
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:19 ssp-sv2008-b.r14
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 08:20 ssp-sv2008-b.r15
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:32 ssp-sv2008-b.r16
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:32 ssp-sv2008-b.r17
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:01 ssp-sv2008-b.r18
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:01 ssp-sv2008-b.r19
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:32 ssp-sv2008-b.r20
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:32 ssp-sv2008-b.r21
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:21 ssp-sv2008-b.r22
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:07 ssp-sv2008-b.r23
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:23 ssp-sv2008-b.r24
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 11:15 ssp-sv2008-b.r25
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 11:15 ssp-sv2008-b.r26
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:27 ssp-sv2008-b.r27
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:09 ssp-sv2008-b.r28
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 09:33 ssp-sv2008-b.r29
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:23 ssp-sv2008-b.r30
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:23 ssp-sv2008-b.r31
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:05 ssp-sv2008-b.r32
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:40 ssp-sv2008-b.r33
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:46 ssp-sv2008-b.r34
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:45 ssp-sv2008-b.r35
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:45 ssp-sv2008-b.r36
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:12 ssp-sv2008-b.r37
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:51 ssp-sv2008-b.r38
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:56 ssp-sv2008-b.r39
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:51 ssp-sv2008-b.r40
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 08:25 ssp-sv2008-b.r41
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:05 ssp-sv2008-b.r42
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:20 ssp-sv2008-b.r43
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:35 ssp-sv2008-b.r44
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:35 ssp-sv2008-b.r45
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:13 ssp-sv2008-b.r46
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:13 ssp-sv2008-b.r47
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  5812196 2008-11-23 06:35 ssp-sv2008-b.r48
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 14:53 ssp-sv2008-b.rar
> -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven     1350 2008-11-23 05:51 ssp-sv2008-b.sfv
> steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$                     
>
> Doesn't it say .rar near the end?
>
> Steven
>   


Unless I'm missing something here, you should be able to cd to each 
directory and unrar the archive without having to join them together.  
The unrar command should be smart enough to do that.  Try this sequence 
of commands at the command-line (my apologies if I put in a typo or mess 
up the syntax):

cd "/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote I"
unrar x ssp-sv2008-a.rar
cd "/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote II"
unrar x ssp-sv2008-b.rar

The "x" means to extract the files with their original folder structure 
intact.  This should extract what is in the .rar file, continuing on to 
the .r01 file, then the .r02 file, etc.  It will probably show some 
messages along the way, explaining what it is doing.  If I remember 
right, it should say something like "all files OK" or something similar 
when it's done if it worked right.

After this is completed, assuming it worked, you should have a new file 
(or more) in each directory.  It might even place them in 
sub-directories under the Swing Vote I and Swing Vote II  directories.   
These will probably be either movie files (such as .mpg, .avi, or .wmv) 
or disk image files (.iso).

Paul




From donn.ingle at gmail.com  Mon Jan 19 00:45:41 2009
From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:45:41 +0200
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901181850.54019.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49737FC2.9000906@gatech.edu>
	<200901181850.54019.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901190245.42282.donn.ingle@gmail.com>

cd "/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote I"
unrar e ssp-sv2008-a.r00

cd "/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote II"
unrar e ssp-sv2008-b.r00

Tips: 
Try auto-complete for the filenames. 
The .r00 is dot r zero zero not 'oh' 'oh'

You (I hope) will end up with something. I don't know what. Perhaps an AVI 
file (in each directory), perhaps some kind of DVD thing. 

\d




From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 19 00:42:53 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:42:53 -0600
Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc 4.6.2-pre1 from kubuntu repo???
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901171232580.5878@localhost.localdomain>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
	<200901020336.28031.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0901171232580.5878@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <200901181842.53513.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Sunday 18 January 2009 4:16:41 pm Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> Since these same shortcuts do work in kubuntu if I run mc in one of
> the 6 virtual consoles. But (in kubuntu) they don't work from an either
> xterm or konsole, I have to think the problem isn't exactly with
> "konsole" and/or "xterm", but rather some other aspect of how kubuntu
> implements the gui must be interfering with these bindings...
>
> But I still don't have a clue how to fix it...

I don't know if you have an rc file for mc, but if you do, check it carefully.  
It might have special settings for running in X.  I know vi has some settings 
like that.

Something else to try: if you run Kopete, try starting a conversation with 
someone.  Type in a message and press ctrl+enter.  If it sends the message, 
then perhaps it's something like your keyboard layout.  If it starts a new 
line, then everything should be working properly.  If it does neither of these 
things, it occurs to me to ask if you have your ctrl key set up as a modifier 
for making special characters like with accents or umlauts over them.  If 
that's the case, you might want to either change it or use the other ctrl key.

By the way, you've tried using both ctrl keys at different times, right?

One last thing to try if all of the above is a waste: install another WM.  You 
don't need Gnome.  Try WindowMaker - that's a cool one.  Or IceWM.  I believe 
they're both in the package manager (I'm on a different machine at the moment, 
or I'd check).  Then open xterm there and see if it works.  If it does, then 
it's a setting in KDE.  If it doesn't, we go back to an X setting.  So if it 
doesn't, could you post the keyboard section of xorg.conf here?



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Mon Jan 19 02:09:58 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:09:58 -0400
Subject: kde4.2 kmail interface
References: <200901181726.06363.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
	<200901181817.27308.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <m04d46-6q3.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Constantinos Maltezos wrote:

> On Sunday 18 January 2009 4:26:06 pm Paul Kaplan wrote:
>> I find the kmail interface (1.11) pretty, but somewhat difficult to use.
>> Is there anyway to customize the columns presented in the message list
>> pane?
>>
>> Also, is there a way to flatten the listing of messages, i.e., each
>> message takes up only one line, not two?

> 
> Above the message list, there's a search bar.  There are five
> buttons/icons to
> the right of it.  The one on the farthest right changes the appearance of
> the
> message list.  If you change it to "Classic", it makes each message take
> up
> one line.  To change the columns, choose "Configure", clone "Classic" and
> adjust it from there.

Good to know that it can be fixed, but WHAT ON EARTH WERE THEY THINKING?  OK, 
sure, we're getting more and more screen space, but who wants to take two 
lines where one has always sufficed?





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Mon Jan 19 02:12:07 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:12:07 -0400
Subject: Meta Key
References: <49b3a7400901181032t9a04e70sbae3bfc1b09f7eb1@mail.gmail.com>
	<49b3a7400901181211l1092b725m7fdda24ee897ab5a@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901181251k53deefb7x1cc63d18e2e15bec@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901181654.55374.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <n44d46-6q3.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Bruce Marshall wrote:

> On Sunday 18 January 2009, Jonas Norlander wrote:
>> As default meta is the Win key on a normal PC keyboard so there must
>> be some settings you changed or you have a strange keyboard. Have you
>> checked your xorg.conf?
> 
> I have a Windows key on the keybd I am using and it is NOT the meta key.

What's more, it's my experience that the Win key has NEVER been the default 
meta key, in any version of KDE.  I don't know why - if it isn't the meta 
key, it's just wasted.






From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 19 03:03:09 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:03:09 -0600
Subject: kde4.2 kmail interface
In-Reply-To: <m04d46-6q3.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <200901181726.06363.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
	<200901181817.27308.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<m04d46-6q3.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <200901182103.10029.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Sunday 18 January 2009 8:09:58 pm Derek Broughton wrote:
> Good to know that it can be fixed, but WHAT ON EARTH WERE THEY THINKING? 
> OK, sure, we're getting more and more screen space, but who wants to take
> two lines where one has always sufficed?

I likes it.



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan 19 06:02:08 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:02:08 -0500
Subject: Fixed addresses for 8.04?
In-Reply-To: <200901181855.03585.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <200901181724.02969.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901181855.03585.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <200901190102.08765.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Sunday 18 January 2009, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>On Sunday 18 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Since it appears that the normal configuration (ifcfg-eth0 and friends)
>> files have been deprecated and NM is doing it all, so how can I make it
>> use a fixed local address?  Setting the hostname and hosts files up
>> correctly doesn't do it. NM apparently ignores everything but the
>> hostname.
>
>In 8.04 it should be as simple as going to:
>
>system settings -->  network  settings  -->  <select interface> -->
>
>configure interface -->  <select manual>  -->  enter your IP address and
>netmask (usually  255.255.255.0)
>
>Also set default gateway under  'routes'  and DNS under  Domain name system

I have actually done that using a sudo session, It all looks ok, but if I quit 
and reopen it, the old stuff has been set again.  Repeated several times.

Where are the files this data is stored in?, I'll change them with vim and do 
a chattr +i on them.  That will no doubt give NM a terminal belly ache but at 
this point, I could care less.  I just want it to work.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
BAD CRAZINESS, MAN!!!




From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan 19 07:30:07 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:30:07 -0500
Subject: Fixed addresses for 8.04?  FIXED!
In-Reply-To: <200901190102.08765.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901181724.02969.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901181855.03585.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
	<200901190102.08765.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901190230.08309.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 19 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>On Sunday 18 January 2009, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>>On Sunday 18 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Since it appears that the normal configuration (ifcfg-eth0 and friends)
>>> files have been deprecated and NM is doing it all, so how can I make it
>>> use a fixed local address?  Setting the hostname and hosts files up
>>> correctly doesn't do it. NM apparently ignores everything but the
>>> hostname.
>>
>>In 8.04 it should be as simple as going to:
>>
>>system settings -->  network  settings  -->  <select interface> -->
>>
>>configure interface -->  <select manual>  -->  enter your IP address and
>>netmask (usually  255.255.255.0)
>>
>>Also set default gateway under  'routes'  and DNS under  Domain name system
>
>I have actually done that using a sudo session, It all looks ok, but if I
> quit and reopen it, the old stuff has been set again.  Repeated several
> times.
>
>Where are the files this data is stored in?, I'll change them with vim and
> do a chattr +i on them.  That will no doubt give NM a terminal belly ache
> but at this point, I could care less.  I just want it to work.
>
Actually, since I had pulled kde4 in, that menu is lacking that particular 
option set, but in the kde menus under applications, there was the kde3 
version, and it did have it, so I did get it setup the way I want, but had to 
manually restart the networking to make it take.  Now I believe it will 
survive a reboot.  Thanks for the kick in the britches to keep looking.

Note to others who would do this, there is an 'administrative mode' button, 
well below the bottom of the screen, so you'll probably have to scroll down 
and click it, then enter your passwd again to enable the editing functions.

Then, after any change, click 'apply' else it won't be there the next time you 
look.  And this applies to any tab you make a change in.

>--
>Cheers, Gene
>"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
>BAD CRAZINESS, MAN!!!



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Office Automation:
	The use of computers to improve efficiency in the office
	by removing anyone you would want to talk with over coffee.




From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Mon Jan 19 07:34:15 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:34:15 -0500
Subject: Fixed addresses for 8.04?
In-Reply-To: <200901190102.08765.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901181724.02969.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901181855.03585.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
	<200901190102.08765.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901190234.16115.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Monday 19 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
> I have actually done that using a sudo session, It all looks ok, but if I
> quit and reopen it, the old stuff has been set again.  Repeated several
> times.
>
> Where are the files this data is stored in?, I'll change them with vim and
> do a chattr +i on them.  That will no doubt give NM a terminal belly ache
> but at this point, I could care less.  I just want it to work.

All stored in  /etc/network/interfaces    Might need to change some things in 
the directories below that but probably not.



From joelol75 at verizon.net  Mon Jan 19 13:53:49 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:53:49 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901160650s7cf36c46rc5e757fcb592e391@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901160155wbf2bb22qe05890d5e804f664@mail.gmail.com>	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49708E7A.1000601@verizon.net>
	<880dece00901160650s7cf36c46rc5e757fcb592e391@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497485ED.5040709@verizon.net>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
> Thank you for the explanation, Joel. Note that there _are_ formats in
> the avi container that can be concatenated, such as those produced by
> my Fuji 5500 digital camera.
>
>   

 From what I know, just because it works doesn't mean it's correct.  
.AVI container files are frame based, so sticking two together will 
result in the frame counter "reseting" in the middle of the movie.  Sure 
most players will "ignore" the error, but I guarantee you this will 
cause problems searching through the movie with the time bar or search 
bar, if it will allow this at all.  Windows media player will most 
likely bitch about the file being corrupted and "would you like to fix 
it" although it will still play fine. avimerge renumbers the subsequent 
files with the proper frame number.  Also not knowing what audio and 
video codecs are in the .avi ....


What i'm trying to get at is just because it works doesn't mean it's 
correct. cat'ing them will break the index and may cause video/sound 
sync issues and will break searching through the movie.

Or another way to look at it, cat has been around since the 70's?  If 
avimerge wasn't needed, it would have never been made.  sudo ln -s 
/bin/cat /bin/avimerge LOL.  Don't run that command BTW.

Sure, technically there formats INSIDE the .avi container that can be 
merged (MPEG 2&4 most common) but avi stands for audio video interleaved 
which means theres so many frames of video, then a sample of audio, and 
so on.  These "interleaves" are indexed.  cat'ing them together breaks 
the index.







From joelol75 at verizon.net  Mon Jan 19 14:01:05 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:01:05 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901160919p193907bcm45663ba03e7f0350@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901160155wbf2bb22qe05890d5e804f664@mail.gmail.com>	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901160502t60a72d78v79a65c7dd87628d7@mail.gmail.com>	<4970B8DE.5070200@gatech.edu>
	<880dece00901160919p193907bcm45663ba03e7f0350@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497487A1.9040703@verizon.net>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
>   
>>> To "cat them together" use the "cat" command to merge the files:
>>>
>>> $ cat file1.avi file2.avi > output.avi
>>>
>>> "cat": the name of the command
>>> "file1.avi file2.avi": the list of files to be combined
>>> ">": output pipe
>>> "output.avi": the name of the output file
>>>       
>> Again, this is flat-out wrong.
>>
>>     


Wrong yes, don't cat .avi files.  Otherwise it works fine!

joel at serveftp4:~$ echo "What the hell is" > file1.txt
joel at serveftp4:~$ echo " wrong with this????" > file2.txt
joel at serveftp4:~$ echo " Besides YOU SHOULDN'T CAT AVI FILES" > file3.txt
joel at serveftp4:~$ cat file* > mail.txt
joel at serveftp4:~$ cat mail.txt
What the hell is
 wrong with this????
 Besides YOU SHOULDN'T CAT AVI FILES


There... 2 simple examples of redirection and using cat two different 
ways to get a message across... pasted right of the terminal. What 
didn't work right?

Joel
 



From joelol75 at verizon.net  Mon Jan 19 14:18:10 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:18:10 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <49738C5C.3080502@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901180307.43983.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4972E53D.4010806@gatech.edu>	<200901181103.36488.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49738C5C.3080502@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <49748BA2.8070805@verizon.net>

Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>   
>> steven at Studio25:~$ cd /media/sdb5/Films
>> steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$ unrar-free -t *.rar
>>     
>
> There are no .rar files in the current folder, so it is thinking *.rar
> (literally a star then a period, then rar) is a file.  See my other
> emails on this.
>
> Matt Flaschen
>
>
>   
These .rar's are movies correct?  If so, just right click the .rar file 
and "Extract here"... Ohh, wait.. this is the Kubuntu list and that's 
for gnome.  Should be similar i'd think.  I wouldn't get on the command 
line to do this work.  Extract both of them and copy the extracted 
.avi's someplace to merge them together, then use avimerge like last 
time.  Now if you wanted to merge to .rar archives (I don't believe this 
is what you wish to so though) man rar gives a multitude of command line 
goodness... I never merged two rar's before, but the way I'd go about 
doing it would be to extract the 2nd archive to an empty directory and 
then add these files into the 1st archive.

Joel.




From joelol75 at verizon.net  Mon Jan 19 14:26:17 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:26:17 -0500
Subject: HD Problem
In-Reply-To: <200812282118.08672.lists@ptfd.org>
References: <200812282118.08672.lists@ptfd.org>
Message-ID: <49748D89.2090001@verizon.net>

lists at ptfd.org wrote:
> My Laptop (Dell Latitude D820) running Kubuntu Intrepid has been working fine, 
> then I replaced the HD to get some more breathing room. Seemed to be working 
> well for some time but now suddenly it just stalls out, locking up 
> momentarily, for up to a couple of minuted. 
> In trying to determine what was going on I found it was pdflush and kjournald 
> that would be running excessively.
> I began googleing around and found that my raw writes and seek error rates 
> seem very high, everything else seems fine, see below. 
>
> Any suggestions appreciated.
> *******************************************************************************************
> SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
> Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  
> WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
>   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   115   100   006    Pre-fail  Always       
> -       96973968
>   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   097   097   000    Pre-fail  Always       
> -       0
>   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       
> -       78
>   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always       
> -       0
>   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   061   054   030    Pre-fail  Always       
> -       30077214583
>   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
> -       211
>  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       
> -       1
>  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   037   020    Old_age   Always       
> -       78
> 184 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   099    Old_age   Always       
> -       0
> 187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
> -       0
> 188 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   098   000    Old_age   Always       
> -       125
> 189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
> -       0
> 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   062   035   045    Old_age   Always   
> In_the_past 38 (0 10 45 24)
> 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
> -       0
> 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
> -       6
> 193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       
> -       4600
> 194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   038   065   000    Old_age   Always       
> -       38 (0 18 0 0)
> 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   052   046   000    Old_age   Always       
> -       96973968
> 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
> -       0
> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       
> 0
> 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       
> -       0
> 254 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
> -       0
> *********************************************************************************************
>   
Those are some of the biggest numbers on raw_error, seek_error and 
hardware_ecc_recovered I've ever seen!  I've seen drives with a slightly 
tens of thousands of ecc_recovered that still work well, but your drive 
only has been turned on for 211 hrs, shut off or rebooted 78 times and 
forced off (holding the power button I assume, 6 times.  That's a bad 
new drive suffering from the "infant mortality syndrome" I suppose.  
Hopefully this smart data will help you get a refund/replacement.

Joel.
 



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan 19 14:42:06 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:42:06 -0500
Subject: Fixed addresses for 8.04?  FIXED.
In-Reply-To: <200901190234.16115.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <200901181724.02969.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901190102.08765.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901190234.16115.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <200901190942.06314.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 19 January 2009, Bruce Marshall wrote:
>On Monday 19 January 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> I have actually done that using a sudo session, It all looks ok, but if I
>> quit and reopen it, the old stuff has been set again.  Repeated several
>> times.
>>
>> Where are the files this data is stored in?, I'll change them with vim and
>> do a chattr +i on them.  That will no doubt give NM a terminal belly ache
>> but at this point, I could care less.  I just want it to work.
>
>All stored in  /etc/network/interfaces    Might need to change some things
> in the directories below that but probably not.

It turns out there are 2 of those config utilities installed in the kde 
menu's, and the kde4 version is incomplete. The much less obvious kde3 
version did have all those options and was able to achieve the goals.

Thank you.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Quantum dynamics are affecting the transistors




From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jan 19 14:51:49 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:51:49 -0500
Subject: HD Problem
In-Reply-To: <49748D89.2090001@verizon.net>
References: <200812282118.08672.lists@ptfd.org> <49748D89.2090001@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901190951.49558.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 19 January 2009, Joel Oliver wrote:
>lists at ptfd.org wrote:
>> My Laptop (Dell Latitude D820) running Kubuntu Intrepid has been working
>> fine, then I replaced the HD to get some more breathing room. Seemed to be
>> working well for some time but now suddenly it just stalls out, locking up
>> momentarily, for up to a couple of minuted.
>> In trying to determine what was going on I found it was pdflush and
>> kjournald that would be running excessively.
>> I began googleing around and found that my raw writes and seek error rates
>> seem very high, everything else seems fine, see below.
>>
>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>> **************************************************************************
>>***************** SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
>> Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
>> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED
>> WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
>>   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   115   100   006    Pre-fail  Always
>> -       96973968

Get your data off that drive and RMA it, its toast.

>>   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   097   097   000    Pre-fail  Always
>> -       0
>>   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always
>> -       78
>>   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always
>> -       0
Why this isn't going up I have no idea

>>   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   061   054   030    Pre-fail  Always
>> -       30077214583
Yikes!

>>   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always
>> -       211
>>  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always
>> -       1
>>  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   037   020    Old_age   Always
>> -       78
>> 184 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   099    Old_age   Always
>> -       0
>> 187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always
>> -       0
>> 188 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   098   000    Old_age   Always
>> -       125
>> 189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always
>> -       0
>> 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   062   035   045    Old_age   Always
>> In_the_past 38 (0 10 45 24)
>> 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always
>> -       0
>> 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always
>> -       6
>> 193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always
>> -       4600
>> 194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   038   065   000    Old_age   Always
>> -       38 (0 18 0 0)
That is fairly warm, but shouldn't be a factor at its age and powerup count.

>> 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   052   046   000    Old_age   Always
>> -       96973968
Ouch...
>> 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always
>> -       0
>> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline 
>>     - 0
>> 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always
>> -       0
>> 254 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always
>> -       0
>> **************************************************************************
>>*******************
>
>Those are some of the biggest numbers on raw_error, seek_error and
>hardware_ecc_recovered I've ever seen!  I've seen drives with a slightly
>tens of thousands of ecc_recovered that still work well, but your drive
>only has been turned on for 211 hrs, shut off or rebooted 78 times and
>forced off (holding the power button I assume, 6 times.  That's a bad
>new drive suffering from the "infant mortality syndrome" I suppose.
>Hopefully this smart data will help you get a refund/replacement.
>
>Joel.



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it,
we would be so simple we couldn't.



From Herve at lucidia.net  Mon Jan 19 15:55:58 2009
From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:55:58 +0100
Subject: Dual screen with KDE4
Message-ID: <4413284c0901190755s1a750068kf8d4c4ba97f1c503@mail.gmail.com>

Hello guys,

I am using Jaunty at work and have a small laptop screen (14") to which I
added a 17" screen.
I have been trying to use 'Screen Resize & Rotate' to get my desktop on both
screens, but it does not offer the option.

It is worth also noting that:
- I did not manage to do it using xrandr (yet)
- it can be set up in two clicks on that other OS

Anybody got any idea?

Note also that adding:
        SubSection      "Display"
                Virtual         2048    2048
        EndSubSection
to the Section "Screen" broke X (with and without '"' around the 2048).

All suggestions (other than running that other OS) welcome.

Hervé
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From Herve at lucidia.net  Mon Jan 19 16:00:45 2009
From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:00:45 +0100
Subject: re grub error 17
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W4258C10682532243066DA1CDD50@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W4258C10682532243066DA1CDD50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4413284c0901190800l283d2fcfx4cdd42603dc09af5@mail.gmail.com>

You can clone the full HD in Linux using dd:
* connect source and dest HDs
* boot from a LiveCD (Kubuntu ones are fine)
* from a terminal, type:
$ dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
... where /dev/sda is the device associated with your source HD and /dev/sdb
to the destination.
Quadruple-check that you know which is which as there is no way back!!!

HTH
Hervé

2009/1/17 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>

>  anyone know of why when loading the grub that comes with error 17
>
> when I tried to load up 2 extra Hdd from my modile hdd racks(80gb bkup xp
> pro+ and my old copy of
> Me 40gb) in the Grub line said grub loading next line error 17, what does
> that mean,
> also when I done a clone copy of the current bkupman 80gb the one I use
> with dual to to
> Kubuntu, it clonned ok thru dos using Ghost 3 but when I attached as main
> drive to check
> that it work worked, when booting started to do the grub loading but said
> grub grub grub grub grub etc forever so I presume the clone didnt work, so
> is there a clone
> app I can use when in K to clone mt xp pro dual boot hdd to a backup of it,
> cause I can use
> paragon disk copy 8 to clone the K drives when in xp pro???????
>
> ray
>
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From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Mon Jan 19 16:22:09 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:22:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Dual screen with KDE4
In-Reply-To: <4413284c0901190755s1a750068kf8d4c4ba97f1c503@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1523120237.3306081232382129614.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I found that the gui interfaces didn't work and was eventually successful with the xrandr commands. 

Check out: 
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Multihead 

Make sure that you are correctly defining your monitors (should be obvious from the output of the xrandr command). 

LVDS is the laptop monitor, VGA is the external. 

Paul 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hervé Fache" <Herve at lucidia.net> 
To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> 
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 10:55:58 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Dual screen with KDE4 

Hello guys, 

I am using Jaunty at work and have a small laptop screen (14") to which I added a 17" screen. 
I have been trying to use 'Screen Resize & Rotate' to get my desktop on both screens, but it does not offer the option. 

It is worth also noting that: 
- I did not manage to do it using xrandr (yet) 
- it can be set up in two clicks on that other OS 

Anybody got any idea? 

Note also that adding: 
SubSection "Display" 
Virtual 2048 2048 
EndSubSection 
to the Section "Screen" broke X (with and without '"' around the 2048). 

All suggestions (other than running that other OS) welcome. 

Hervé 

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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 19 17:29:06 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:29:06 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <49748BA2.8070805@verizon.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49738C5C.3080502@gatech.edu> <49748BA2.8070805@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901191229.07613.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


>
> These .rar's are movies correct?  If so, just right click the .rar file
> and "Extract here"... Ohh, wait.. this is the Kubuntu list and that's
> for gnome. 
I use KDE, not Gnome.

I am not sure Joel, but I think each folder starts with the same number and 
continues.  Like .r00, .r01, /r02 etc.  With the same extension, won't that 
cause a problem?
>
> Joel.





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 19 17:35:02 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:35:02 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901190245.42282.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901181850.54019.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901190245.42282.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901191235.02972.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Sunday 18 January 2009 7:45:41 pm Donn wrote:
> cd "/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote I"
> unrar e ssp-sv2008-a.r00
>
> cd "/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote II"
> unrar e ssp-sv2008-b.r00
>
> Tips:
> Try auto-complete for the filenames.
> The .r00 is dot r zero zero not 'oh' 'oh'
>
> You (I hope) will end up with something. I don't know what. Perhaps an AVI
> file (in each directory), perhaps some kind of DVD thing.

I am unable to understand what I am reading.  I used zero's.  Additionally can 
unrar combine to folders?  I have never had a problem opening a .rar, I just 
want to join two .rar folders into one, to there is not an interruption in 
the middle of the movie.

Once they are open, I don't know what to do to join them.  

Sorry for my confusion.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 19 17:40:00 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:40:00 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <4973C8BC.6090206@yahoo.com>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901181850.54019.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4973C8BC.6090206@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901191240.01359.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Sunday 18 January 2009 7:26:36 pm Paul Rumelhart wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> >> They're not files of any type, they're folders/directories, which you
> >> perhaps extracted from rars.
> >>
> >> Run:
> >>
> >> ls -al Swing*
> >
> > steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$ ls -al Swing*
> > Swing Vote I:
> > total 724496
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 steven steven     4096 2008-11-25 18:46 .
> > drwxr-xr-x 4 steven root       4096 2009-01-18 03:15 ..
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven       22 2008-11-25 19:40 .d3lphinview
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven       49 2008-11-25 18:46 .directory
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:56 ssp-sv2008-a.r00
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:31 ssp-sv2008-a.r01
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:54 ssp-sv2008-a.r02
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:18 ssp-sv2008-a.r03
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:18 ssp-sv2008-a.r04
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:08 ssp-sv2008-a.r05
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:08 ssp-sv2008-a.r06
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:14 ssp-sv2008-a.r07
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:40 ssp-sv2008-a.r08
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r09
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r10
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:33 ssp-sv2008-a.r11
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:23 ssp-sv2008-a.r12
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:11 ssp-sv2008-a.r13
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:11 ssp-sv2008-a.r14
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:26 ssp-sv2008-a.r15
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r16
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:04 ssp-sv2008-a.r17
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:04 ssp-sv2008-a.r18
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r19
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:50 ssp-sv2008-a.r20
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 11:22 ssp-sv2008-a.r21
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 08:18 ssp-sv2008-a.r22
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:14 ssp-sv2008-a.r23
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:41 ssp-sv2008-a.r24
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:27 ssp-sv2008-a.r25
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:52 ssp-sv2008-a.r26
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:52 ssp-sv2008-a.r27
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:04 ssp-sv2008-a.r28
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:07 ssp-sv2008-a.r29
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:07 ssp-sv2008-a.r30
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:22 ssp-sv2008-a.r31
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:44 ssp-sv2008-a.r32
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:09 ssp-sv2008-a.r33
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 09:51 ssp-sv2008-a.r34
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:23 ssp-sv2008-a.r35
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:23 ssp-sv2008-a.r36
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:43 ssp-sv2008-a.r37
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:38 ssp-sv2008-a.r38
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:10 ssp-sv2008-a.r39
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:10 ssp-sv2008-a.r40
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:44 ssp-sv2008-a.r41
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:03 ssp-sv2008-a.r42
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:00 ssp-sv2008-a.r43
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:31 ssp-sv2008-a.r44
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:11 ssp-sv2008-a.r45
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:22 ssp-sv2008-a.r46
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:06 ssp-sv2008-a.r47
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  5667252 2008-11-23 19:06 ssp-sv2008-a.r48
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:40 ssp-sv2008-a.rar
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven     1350 2008-11-23 15:20 ssp-sv2008-a.sfv
> >
> > Swing Vote II:
> > total 724636
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 steven steven     4096 2008-11-25 18:47 .
> > drwxr-xr-x 4 steven root       4096 2009-01-18 03:15 ..
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven       22 2008-11-25 19:40 .d3lphinview
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven       49 2008-11-25 18:47 .directory
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:42 ssp-sv2008-b.r00
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 09:00 ssp-sv2008-b.r01
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 11:08 ssp-sv2008-b.r02
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:47 ssp-sv2008-b.r03
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:40 ssp-sv2008-b.r04
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:38 ssp-sv2008-b.r05
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:47 ssp-sv2008-b.r06
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:17 ssp-sv2008-b.r07
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:09 ssp-sv2008-b.r08
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:56 ssp-sv2008-b.r09
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:27 ssp-sv2008-b.r10
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:42 ssp-sv2008-b.r11
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:54 ssp-sv2008-b.r12
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:19 ssp-sv2008-b.r13
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:19 ssp-sv2008-b.r14
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 08:20 ssp-sv2008-b.r15
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:32 ssp-sv2008-b.r16
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:32 ssp-sv2008-b.r17
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:01 ssp-sv2008-b.r18
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:01 ssp-sv2008-b.r19
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:32 ssp-sv2008-b.r20
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:32 ssp-sv2008-b.r21
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:21 ssp-sv2008-b.r22
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:07 ssp-sv2008-b.r23
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:23 ssp-sv2008-b.r24
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 11:15 ssp-sv2008-b.r25
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 11:15 ssp-sv2008-b.r26
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:27 ssp-sv2008-b.r27
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 19:09 ssp-sv2008-b.r28
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 09:33 ssp-sv2008-b.r29
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:23 ssp-sv2008-b.r30
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:23 ssp-sv2008-b.r31
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:05 ssp-sv2008-b.r32
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 16:40 ssp-sv2008-b.r33
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 10:46 ssp-sv2008-b.r34
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:45 ssp-sv2008-b.r35
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:45 ssp-sv2008-b.r36
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 07:12 ssp-sv2008-b.r37
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:51 ssp-sv2008-b.r38
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 15:56 ssp-sv2008-b.r39
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:51 ssp-sv2008-b.r40
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 08:25 ssp-sv2008-b.r41
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:05 ssp-sv2008-b.r42
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:20 ssp-sv2008-b.r43
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:35 ssp-sv2008-b.r44
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 17:35 ssp-sv2008-b.r45
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:13 ssp-sv2008-b.r46
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 18:13 ssp-sv2008-b.r47
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  5812196 2008-11-23 06:35 ssp-sv2008-b.r48
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 15000000 2008-11-23 14:53 ssp-sv2008-b.rar
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven     1350 2008-11-23 05:51 ssp-sv2008-b.sfv
> > steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$
> >
> > Doesn't it say .rar near the end?
> >
> > Steven
>
> Unless I'm missing something here, you should be able to cd to each
> directory and unrar the archive without having to join them together.
> The unrar command should be smart enough to do that.  Try this sequence
> of commands at the command-line (my apologies if I put in a typo or mess
> up the syntax):
>
> cd "/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote I"
> unrar x ssp-sv2008-a.rar
> cd "/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote II"
> unrar x ssp-sv2008-b.rar
>
> The "x" means to extract the files with their original folder structure
> intact.  This should extract what is in the .rar file, continuing on to
> the .r01 file, then the .r02 file, etc.  It will probably show some
> messages along the way, explaining what it is doing.  If I remember
> right, it should say something like "all files OK" or something similar
> when it's done if it worked right.
>
> After this is completed, assuming it worked, you should have a new file
> (or more) in each directory.  It might even place them in
> sub-directories under the Swing Vote I and Swing Vote II  directories.
> These will probably be either movie files (such as .mpg, .avi, or .wmv)
> or disk image files (.iso).
>
> Paul

Every once in a while, when I open a .rar, the last step in playing the movie 
will be to click on an .avi.  I have, but usually am not able to, saved 
the .avi file and eliminated the step of opening the .rar folder using the 
editor.  Most of the time, it doesn't work though.  To get the movie to play, 
I double click on the first .rar file.

Steven



From jonorland at gmail.com  Mon Jan 19 17:51:34 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:51:34 +0100
Subject: Dual screen with KDE4
In-Reply-To: <4413284c0901190755s1a750068kf8d4c4ba97f1c503@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4413284c0901190755s1a750068kf8d4c4ba97f1c503@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901190951h1a2e673fk33c2eb27a981a6f3@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/19 Hervé Fache <Herve at lucidia.net>:
> Hello guys,
>
> I am using Jaunty at work and have a small laptop screen (14") to which I
> added a 17" screen.
> I have been trying to use 'Screen Resize & Rotate' to get my desktop on both
> screens, but it does not offer the option.
>
> It is worth also noting that:
> - I did not manage to do it using xrandr (yet)
> - it can be set up in two clicks on that other OS
>
> Anybody got any idea?
>
> Note also that adding:
>         SubSection      "Display"
>                 Virtual         2048    2048
>         EndSubSection
> to the Section "Screen" broke X (with and without '"' around the 2048).
>
> All suggestions (other than running that other OS) welcome.
>
> Hervé
>

I never got the GUI or the xrandr tool to work for me. I think the
cause is that the nvidia driver is not 100% compatible with the randr
protocol. Do you use the nvidia driver by chance? In that case try use
the NVIDIA X Server settings GUI to configure you X server.

/ Jonas

From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Mon Jan 19 18:37:04 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:37:04 +0200
Subject: [kdepim-users] Korganizer 3.5.10
In-Reply-To: <200901170016.59479.peter@peterpieczora.com>
References: <200901170016.59479.peter@peterpieczora.com>
Message-ID: <4974C850.4010507@gmail.com>

Peter Pieczora wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Seems that as of lately KOrganizer is somehow corrupting .ics file. Loading 
> such file results in SIGSEGV. 
> 
> Has anyone experienced same problems when using kde-3.5.10 or any 
> previous version? 
> 
> At this point I wouldn't mind asking for tips how to fix such file, as well.
> 

Yes I have seen that happen, from my experience when I create an event
from a mail. The whole mail gets copied into your ics file unless you
"untick" the attachment box in creating the event. You get a huge ics
file as result.

Solution: manually edit the ics file and remove the "offending" events.
Next time you create from mail make sure not to attach the mail to the
event.

Sinclair




From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 19 19:59:58 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:59:58 +1100
Subject: re grub error 17
In-Reply-To: <4413284c0901190800l283d2fcfx4cdd42603dc09af5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU143-W4258C10682532243066DA1CDD50@phx.gbl>
	<4413284c0901190800l283d2fcfx4cdd42603dc09af5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU143-W4565AB415EB19BF2D3C65FCDD30@phx.gbl>


Herve in xp pro,
 
How can I check which are correct when in Kubuntu, and also I cant
load up my bkup drive to my win xp pro as with my dual boot I get error 17
as I have my backup loaded in a mobile rack(may be via external usb drive????)
 
thru xp pro I have
drive c 80gb win xp pro
drive d 40gb linux(k)
drive e 80gb bkup xp pro
drive L 40 gb bkup linux(K)
both bkup's are in modbile racks that I can switch on/off when booting up
but now that I have grub with my dual boot whichever o/s I try to boot
to grub says error 17, but when switched off the mobile racks its boot ok 
into either win xp pro/Kubuntu thru the grub,so then cant clone my 80gb xp pro,
but the linux will clone thru paragon drive copy 8 whhen in xp pro?????
ray



Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:00:45 +0100From: Herve at lucidia.netTo: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.comSubject: Re: re grub error 17CC: kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com; kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.comYou can clone the full HD in Linux using dd:* connect source and dest HDs* boot from a LiveCD (Kubuntu ones are fine)* from a terminal, type:$ dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb... where /dev/sda is the device associated with your source HD and /dev/sdb to the destination.Quadruple-check that you know which is which as there is no way back!!!HTHHervé
2009/1/17 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>

anyone know of why when loading the grub that comes with error 17 when I tried to load up 2 extra Hdd from my modile hdd racks(80gb bkup xp pro+ and my old copy ofMe 40gb) in the Grub line said grub loading next line error 17, what does that mean,also when I done a clone copy of the current bkupman 80gb the one I use with dual to toKubuntu, it clonned ok thru dos using Ghost 3 but when I attached as main drive to checkthat it work worked, when booting started to do the grub loading but saidgrub grub grub grub grub etc forever so I presume the clone didnt work, so is there a cloneapp I can use when in K to clone mt xp pro dual boot hdd to a backup of it, cause I can useparagon disk copy 8 to clone the K drives when in xp pro??????? ray

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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 19 20:50:55 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:50:55 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
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> cd "/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote I"
> unrar x ssp-sv2008-a.rar
> cd "/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote II"
> unrar x ssp-sv2008-b.rar

steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films$ cd "/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote I"
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote I$ unrar x ssp-sv2008-a.rar

UNRAR 3.71 beta 1 freeware      Copyright (c) 1993-2007 Alexander Roshal


Extracting from ssp-sv2008-a.rar

Extracting  Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-a.r00

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-a.r01

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-a.r03

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-a.r05

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-a.r31

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-a.r34

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-a.r35

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-a.r38

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-a.r39

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-a.r41

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-a.r46

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-a.r47

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-a.r48

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd1.avi                 OK
All OK
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote I$ cd "/media/sdb5/Films/Swing 
Vote II"
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote II$ unrar x ssp-sv2008-b.rar

UNRAR 3.71 beta 1 freeware      Copyright (c) 1993-2007 Alexander Roshal


Extracting from ssp-sv2008-b.rar

Extracting  Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-b.r00

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-b.r42

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

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...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-b.r46

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-b.r47

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi

Extracting from ssp-sv2008-b.r48

...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi                 OK
All OK
steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote II$          

> These will probably be either movie files (such as .mpg, .avi, or .wmv)
> or disk image files (.iso).
They are .avi files.  So I just join using avimerge then?  

I am going to have to study this command a bit to understand it better.  It 
appears that once it has been opened to the .avi folder, I can delete all 
the .rar data that took place when opening it, and retain the .avi file to 
play the movie.  If that is so, why does it take so much longer for the .avi 
file produced from a .rar folder to open.  When I open a movie that was saved 
as a .avi file, it opens much faster than a movie that is opened after 
unpacking a .rar.  Is there a reason for that?

Thanks for your extra patience.

Steven



From ignazio_io at yahoo.it  Mon Jan 19 21:23:37 2009
From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:23:37 +0000
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901191550.56034.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901181850.54019.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4973C8BC.6090206@yahoo.com>
	<200901191550.56034.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4974EF59.5060403@yahoo.it>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> cd "/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote I"
>> unrar x ssp-sv2008-a.rar

... many lines after...

> ...         Swing.Vote.2008.HDTV.XviD-SUNSPOT-cd2.avi                 OK
> All OK
> steven at Studio25:/media/sdb5/Films/Swing Vote II$          
> 
>> These will probably be either movie files (such as .mpg, .avi, or .wmv)
>> or disk image files (.iso).
> They are .avi files.  So I just join using avimerge then?  
>


yep


> I am going to have to study this command a bit to understand it better.  It 
> appears that once it has been opened to the .avi folder, I can delete all 
> the .rar data that took place when opening it, and retain the .avi file to 
> play the movie.  If that is so, why does it take so much longer for the .avi 
> file produced from a .rar folder to open.  When I open a movie that was saved 
> as a .avi file, it opens much faster than a movie that is opened after 
> unpacking a .rar.  Is there a reason for that?

Uninformed guess (since I never saw a rarred movie open automatically): 
before opening the rarred movie, it must be uncompressed. Opening the 
avi movie does not have to go through that stage, so it is faster.

More relevant question: as far as I know rarring or zipping lossy 
formats is not a great space saver (the formats are already compressed 
themselves), so why bother with rar? I know it's common to find movies 
on p2p networks in that form, but I don't see the point in keeping them 
that way after th download.
HTH,
I.





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 19 21:30:34 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:30:34 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <4973C8BC.6090206@yahoo.com>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901181850.54019.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4973C8BC.6090206@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901191630.34921.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Sunday 18 January 2009 7:26:36 pm Paul Rumelhart wrote:
> unrar x ssp-sv2008-b.rar

That worked perfect.  I am sorry for responding as I did to this email 
earlier.  When I studied it a little more, I found what I had missed.  I am 
still getting used to the terminology.

When I receive a download that is packaged in a rar, I open a terminal and 
change directory to the location of the .rar folder, then I type in unrar and 
whatever title has been used to name the rar, and click enter.  Then when the 
archive is opened, it will include an extra file that will be an .avi file or 
mpg or whatever; then I use avimerge if it is an .avi and merge as I do 
for .avi's.  Is that correct?

Thanks for your patience,

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 19 21:52:19 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:52:19 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <4974EF59.5060403@yahoo.it>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901191550.56034.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4974EF59.5060403@yahoo.it>
Message-ID: <200901191652.19505.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> More relevant question: as far as I know rarring or zipping lossy
> formats is not a great space saver (the formats are already compressed
> themselves), so why bother with rar? I know it's common to find movies
> on p2p networks in that form, but I don't see the point in keeping them
> that way after th download.

I don't either, but when using a GUI to open a .rar, after Ark opens the 
folder, you can't always cut and paste the file that results, at least not in 
my computer.  When I can, I do.  When I can't, I go through the hastle of 
opening the .rar each time.  Several wasted steps.

I hope I understand this one well enough to repeat, it is nice to remove the 
intermediate steps.

Steven



From godshatter at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 19 22:08:59 2009
From: godshatter at yahoo.com (Paul Rumelhart)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:08:59 -0800
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <4974EF59.5060403@yahoo.it>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901181850.54019.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4973C8BC.6090206@yahoo.com>	<200901191550.56034.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4974EF59.5060403@yahoo.it>
Message-ID: <4974F9FB.8010709@yahoo.com>

Ignazio Palmisano wrote:
> More relevant question: as far as I know rarring or zipping lossy 
> formats is not a great space saver (the formats are already compressed 
> themselves), so why bother with rar? I know it's common to find movies 
> on p2p networks in that form, but I don't see the point in keeping them 
> that way after th download.
> HTH,
> I.
>   


It looks like he might have gotten this off of a Usenet newsgroup or 
something, or that the original upload was through Usenet.  The rar file 
format is often used there because it can handle multiple archives 
easily and there is a limit to how large a file you can upload as any 
one article on some Usenet servers.  So it's being used more for it's 
ability to package a bunch of files together and to split them over 
multiple files than it is for it's compression ability.

Paul




From kassube at gmx.net  Mon Jan 19 22:10:05 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:10:05 +0100
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <4974EF59.5060403@yahoo.it>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901191550.56034.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4974EF59.5060403@yahoo.it>
Message-ID: <200901192310.05874.kassube@gmx.net>

Ignazio Palmisano wrote:
> More relevant question: as far as I know rarring or zipping lossy
> formats is not a great space saver (the formats are already compressed
> themselves), so why bother with rar? I know it's common to find movies
> on p2p networks in that form, but I don't see the point in keeping them
> that way after th download.

The point is that rar can split files into several parts. These (small) 
parts can be sent via email even if the mail provider(s) don't allow huge 
attachments. For p2p distribution or ftp / http download there is no 
advantage because these protocols allow to continue an interrupted 
download.


Nils



From kassube at gmx.net  Mon Jan 19 22:14:50 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:14:50 +0100
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901191630.34921.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4973C8BC.6090206@yahoo.com>
	<200901191630.34921.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901192314.50212.kassube@gmx.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> When I receive a download that is packaged in a rar, I open a terminal
> and change directory to the location of the .rar folder, then I type in
> unrar and whatever title has been used to name the rar, and click
> enter.  Then when the archive is opened, it will include an extra file
> that will be an .avi file or mpg or whatever; then I use avimerge if it
> is an .avi and merge as I do for .avi's.  Is that correct?

Yep, exactly. And don't forget to include the path for the avimerge input 
files if they are in separate directories.


Nils



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Mon Jan 19 22:27:27 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:27:27 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901191652.19505.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901191550.56034.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4974EF59.5060403@yahoo.it>
	<200901191652.19505.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4974FE4F.1090204@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> More relevant question: as far as I know rarring or zipping lossy
>> formats is not a great space saver (the formats are already compressed
>> themselves), so why bother with rar? I know it's common to find movies
>> on p2p networks in that form, but I don't see the point in keeping them
>> that way after th download.
> 
> I don't either, but when using a GUI to open a .rar, after Ark opens the 
> folder, you can't always cut and paste the file that results, at least not in 
> my computer.  When I can, I do.  When I can't, I go through the hastle of 
> opening the .rar each time.

You should always be able extract the RAR using ark.  Try clicking
Action then Extract.

Matt Flaschen

> I hope I understand this one well enough to repeat, it is nice to remove the
> intermediate steps.

You should be able to do it either on the command-line or GUI without
much difficulty.

Matt Flaschen



From jdnewmansr at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 19 23:59:41 2009
From: jdnewmansr at yahoo.com (James Newman)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:59:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: updates locked my apt!
Message-ID: <688521.81533.qm@web33904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am something of a newbie, so please be patient with me! I have lost my apt usage, the computer thinks someone (something) else has apt open???



      
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From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Tue Jan 20 00:18:13 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:18:13 -0800
Subject: updates locked my apt!
In-Reply-To: <688521.81533.qm@web33904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <688521.81533.qm@web33904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901191618.17749.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Monday 19 January 2009 3:59:41 pm James Newman wrote:
> I am something of a newbie, so please be patient with me! I have lost my
> apt usage, the computer thinks someone (something) else has apt open???

That would be the Update Manager or Synaptic possibly?  Were you using a 
terminal someplace for apt commands?  That may still be open.  Is your update 
window still open? 

-- 
73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n><   PDGA# 35276
http://the-inner-circle.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
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From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Tue Jan 20 00:27:01 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:27:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: updates locked my apt!
In-Reply-To: <200901191618.17749.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <1756339470.3464411232411221691.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Once you make sure that Update Manager, Synaptic, or Adept_Manager are not running (check ksysguard), if you still have a problem, open a terminal and enter (no "s) "sudo apt-get --configure -a". 
P 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pastor JW" <pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org> 
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com, jdnewmansr at yahoo.com 
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 7:18:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: updates locked my apt! 

On Monday 19 January 2009 3:59:41 pm James Newman wrote: > I am something of a newbie, so please be patient with me! I have lost my > apt usage, the computer thinks someone (something) else has apt open??? That would be the Update Manager or Synaptic possibly? Were you using a terminal someplace for apt commands? That may still be open. Is your update window still open? -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW < PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr 
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From joelol75 at verizon.net  Tue Jan 20 15:41:40 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:41:40 -0500
Subject: connecting to a hidden WAP router
In-Reply-To: <4940FB24.3010204@prayingforisrael.net>
References: <4940191C.3050707@prayingforisrael.net>	<200812102238.02807.kassube@gmx.net>	<4940AFEC.2090009@prayingforisrael.net>	<200812110827.16873.kassube@gmx.net>
	<4940FB24.3010204@prayingforisrael.net>
Message-ID: <4975F0B4.7050104@verizon.net>


>
> So how do folks connect to routers that don't broadcast their essid's -- what is the point of 
> that router option if one cannot connect to it?
>
> Blessings,
>
> Nigel
>
>   


There's really no security benifit at all by hiding your essid, as it 
can be sniffed in the air.  Just like the "MAC" address filter, which 
also sounds like a good idea... Hey, I will only let my computers 
connect and block all others.  It's a simple matter of sniffing and 
spoofing it.

If you want secure, just enable WPA encryption with AES or later 
(WPA2).  WPA  TKIP has a lame 'possible' DOS exploit when used with QoS 
but feel free to use that as well.  It's not even worth describing this 
exploit as it's not that bad and is only a theory of concept exploit as 
of now.  Just stay away from WEP.


If you really must know about the details of the WPA TKIP exploit, check 
out this podcast from Steve Gibson:  http://twit.tv/sn170

And if you need a security expert to explain why hiding your bessid 
and/or MAC address filtering does nothing to increase security listen to 
this old podcast: http://twit.tv/sn11

Joel.




From joelol75 at verizon.net  Tue Jan 20 15:44:15 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:44:15 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <200901191229.07613.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49738C5C.3080502@gatech.edu>
	<49748BA2.8070805@verizon.net>
	<200901191229.07613.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4975F14F.2010309@verizon.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> These .rar's are movies correct?  If so, just right click the .rar file
>> and "Extract here"... Ohh, wait.. this is the Kubuntu list and that's
>> for gnome. 
>>     
> I use KDE, not Gnome.
>
> I am not sure Joel, but I think each folder starts with the same number and 
> continues.  Like .r00, .r01, /r02 etc.  With the same extension, won't that 
> cause a problem?
>   
>> Joel.
>>     
>
>
>
>   
No, just pick any file, although there's the main one that doesn't have 
a number at the end.  I checked and KDE4 does have "Extract Here" in its 
context (right click) menu.

Joel.




From joelol75 at verizon.net  Tue Jan 20 15:51:44 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:51:44 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <4975F14F.2010309@verizon.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49738C5C.3080502@gatech.edu>	<49748BA2.8070805@verizon.net>	<200901191229.07613.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4975F14F.2010309@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4975F310.8040802@verizon.net>

Joel Oliver wrote:
>
> No, just pick any file, although there's the main one that doesn't have 
> a number at the end.  I checked and KDE4 does have "Extract Here" in its 
> context (right click) menu.
>
> Joel.
>
>
>   

I meant, pick any _folder_. RAR is smart enough to assemble all the 
pieces, although there's one folder (at the end) that doesn't have a .00 
.01 .02 ect.  Right click it and select extract here, then your .avi 
movie will pop up in that folder and it will extract.  This may take a 
few seconds to a few minutes depending on your computers CPU moxy...  
Then cut the movie and put it with all your other movies.  After you 
verify all is well, _and after you move the single avi out of this 
folder_,  delete the entire folder with all those .00 .01... in them as 
it takes up quite a bit of space.


Joel.







From chief at porterfire.org  Tue Jan 20 16:18:41 2009
From: chief at porterfire.org (lists@ptfd.org)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:18:41 -0500
Subject: HD Problem
In-Reply-To: <49748D89.2090001@verizon.net>
References: <200812282118.08672.lists@ptfd.org> <49748D89.2090001@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901201118.41502.lists@ptfd.org>

On Monday 19 January 2009 09:26:17 am Joel Oliver wrote:
> lists at ptfd.org wrote:
> > My Laptop (Dell Latitude D820) running Kubuntu Intrepid has been working
> > fine, then I replaced the HD to get some more breathing room. Seemed to
> > be working well for some time but now suddenly it just stalls out,
> > locking up momentarily, for up to a couple of minuted.
> > In trying to determine what was going on I found it was pdflush and
> > kjournald that would be running excessively.
> > I began googleing around and found that my raw writes and seek error
> > rates seem very high, everything else seems fine, see below.
> >
> > Any suggestions appreciated.
> > *************************************************************************
> >****************** SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
> > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
> > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED
> > WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
> >   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   115   100   006    Pre-fail  Always
> > -       96973968
> >   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   097   097   000    Pre-fail  Always
> > -       0
> >   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always
> > -       78
> >   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always
> > -       0
> >   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   061   054   030    Pre-fail  Always
> > -       30077214583
> >   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always
> > -       211
> >  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always
> > -       1
> >  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   037   020    Old_age   Always
> > -       78
> > 184 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   099    Old_age   Always
> > -       0
> > 187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always
> > -       0
> > 188 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   098   000    Old_age   Always
> > -       125
> > 189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always
> > -       0
> > 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   062   035   045    Old_age   Always
> > In_the_past 38 (0 10 45 24)
> > 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always
> > -       0
> > 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always
> > -       6
> > 193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always
> > -       4600
> > 194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   038   065   000    Old_age   Always
> > -       38 (0 18 0 0)
> > 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   052   046   000    Old_age   Always
> > -       96973968
> > 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always
> > -       0
> > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline
> >      - 0
> > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always
> > -       0
> > 254 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always
> > -       0
> > *************************************************************************
> >********************
>
> Those are some of the biggest numbers on raw_error, seek_error and
> hardware_ecc_recovered I've ever seen!  I've seen drives with a slightly
> tens of thousands of ecc_recovered that still work well, but your drive
> only has been turned on for 211 hrs, shut off or rebooted 78 times and
> forced off (holding the power button I assume, 6 times.  That's a bad
> new drive suffering from the "infant mortality syndrome" I suppose.
> Hopefully this smart data will help you get a refund/replacement.
>
> Joel.

Thanks to all who responded,

I have replaced the drive with a WD replacement, It is working great! Fast, 
quiet and no slugs!

Now I have been arguing with Seagate, they say there drive is fine, cause it 
passes their DOS seatools diagnostics. This reminds me of why I have not 
purchased a seagate drive for many years, just a moment of weakness I guess!

Mike

-- 
Michael W. Holdeman
Chief 
Porter Fire Department

Powered by Kubuntu-8.10, KDE-4.2beta



From doc.evans at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 16:36:49 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:36:49 -0700
Subject: HD Problem
In-Reply-To: <200901201118.41502.lists@ptfd.org>
References: <200812282118.08672.lists@ptfd.org> <49748D89.2090001@verizon.net>
	<200901201118.41502.lists@ptfd.org>
Message-ID: <4975FDA1.9050607@gmail.com>

lists at ptfd.org said the following at 01/20/2009 09:18 AM :

> 
> Now I have been arguing with Seagate, they say there drive is fine, cause it 
> passes their DOS seatools diagnostics. This reminds me of why I have not 
> purchased a seagate drive for many years, just a moment of weakness I guess!
> 

That's very odd. Normally you should simply be able to send them the SMART
output and that should be the end of the issue: they should replace it with
no further questions asked.

I suggest you insist on escalating the issue. Eventually, you should be
able to reach someone who knows what SMART is, and at that point you should
be fine.

  Doc

-- 
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From magick.crow at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 17:25:55 2009
From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:25:55 +0100
Subject: Sound on 9.04
Message-ID: <f495db580901200925k2c4605dcu2aeaceb4c1ffe195@mail.gmail.com>

On start up KDE4 plays the little music and when I test the sound
system I get music but when I play Amarok I get no music.
Any ideas?

-- 
Douglas E Knapp

Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE



From doc.evans at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 18:04:25 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:04:25 -0700
Subject: Sound on 9.04
In-Reply-To: <f495db580901200925k2c4605dcu2aeaceb4c1ffe195@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f495db580901200925k2c4605dcu2aeaceb4c1ffe195@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49761229.8070509@gmail.com>

Knapp said the following at 01/20/2009 10:25 AM :
> On start up KDE4 plays the little music and when I test the sound
> system I get music but when I play Amarok I get no music.
> Any ideas?
> 

Do you have an MP3 decoder installed?

  Doc

-- 
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From magick.crow at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 18:11:10 2009
From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:11:10 +0100
Subject: Sound on 9.04
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On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:04 PM, D. R. Evans <doc.evans at gmail.com> wrote:
> Knapp said the following at 01/20/2009 10:25 AM :
>> On start up KDE4 plays the little music and when I test the sound
>> system I get music but when I play Amarok I get no music.
>> Any ideas?
>>
>
> Do you have an MP3 decoder installed?
>
>  Doc

LOL, that is a great question. I bet the answer is no, but then why
does it not complain? It just says it is playing it. Same with
streaming media.
It is just a basic install plus Nivdia driver.
-- 
Douglas E Knapp

Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Tue Jan 20 18:28:56 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:28:56 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <497487A1.9040703@verizon.net>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<496FC1C7.4060904@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901160155wbf2bb22qe05890d5e804f664@mail.gmail.com>	<200901160713.10320.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<880dece00901160502t60a72d78v79a65c7dd87628d7@mail.gmail.com>	<4970B8DE.5070200@gatech.edu>	<880dece00901160919p193907bcm45663ba03e7f0350@mail.gmail.com>
	<497487A1.9040703@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <497617E8.8090402@gatech.edu>

Joel Oliver wrote:
>>> Again, this is flat-out wrong.
>>>
>>>     
> 
> 
> Wrong yes, don't cat .avi files.  Otherwise it works fine!

True.  But that's a pretty important detail since Steven was asking
about avi's! :)

Matt Flaschen



From doc.evans at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 20:17:23 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:17:23 -0700
Subject: Sound on 9.04
In-Reply-To: <f495db580901201011g43de8ec7heec842764aabf23c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f495db580901200925k2c4605dcu2aeaceb4c1ffe195@mail.gmail.com>	<49761229.8070509@gmail.com>
	<f495db580901201011g43de8ec7heec842764aabf23c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49763153.50507@gmail.com>

Knapp said the following at 01/20/2009 11:11 AM :

>>>
>> Do you have an MP3 decoder installed?

> 
> LOL, that is a great question. I bet the answer is no, but then why
> does it not complain? It just says it is playing it. Same with
> streaming media.
> It is just a basic install plus Nivdia driver.

Possibly it doesn't complain because it's still a beta. Anyway, I'd suggest
you install the decoder. It used to be that installs would always behave
this way, so I recognised the symptoms :-)

Sorry but I can't recall the name of the package you need off the top of my
head. Probably someone here knows it, though.

  Doc

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From art.alexion at gmail.com  Tue Jan 20 23:42:09 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:42:09 -0500
Subject: Meta Key
In-Reply-To: <n44d46-6q3.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <49b3a7400901181032t9a04e70sbae3bfc1b09f7eb1@mail.gmail.com>
	<49b3a7400901181211l1092b725m7fdda24ee897ab5a@mail.gmail.com>
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Prior to 8.10 the Windows key is SUPER_L. I used to use it as the
Compose_key. Stopped working with 8.10 on both gnome and KDE. I use
Scroll Lock now.

On 1/18/09, Derek Broughton <derek at pointerstop.ca> wrote:
> Bruce Marshall wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 18 January 2009, Jonas Norlander wrote:
>>> As default meta is the Win key on a normal PC keyboard so there must
>>> be some settings you changed or you have a strange keyboard. Have you
>>> checked your xorg.conf?
>>
>> I have a Windows key on the keybd I am using and it is NOT the meta key.
>
> What's more, it's my experience that the Win key has NEVER been the default
> meta key, in any version of KDE.  I don't know why - if it isn't the meta
> key, it's just wasted.
>
>
>
>
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From magick.crow at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 00:28:06 2009
From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:28:06 +0100
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
Message-ID: <f495db580901201628x6c1efc11wc389a1b13064793b@mail.gmail.com>

Please test it and then click their feedback button!

javascript:void(window.open%20('http://videocast.yahoo.com/test/player.html',%20'playerWindow',%20config='height=750,%20width=870,%20toolbar=no,%20menubar=no,%20scrollbars=no,%20resizable=yes,%20location=no,%20directories=no,%20status=no'));


-- 
Douglas E Knapp

Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE



From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com  Wed Jan 21 00:46:18 2009
From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:46:18 -0500
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
In-Reply-To: <f495db580901201628x6c1efc11wc389a1b13064793b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f495db580901201628x6c1efc11wc389a1b13064793b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4976705A.4070807@ajinfosearch.com>

Knapp wrote:
> Please test it and then click their feedback button!
> 
> javascript:void(window.open%20('http://videocast.yahoo.com/test/player.html',%20'playerWindow',%20config='height=750,%20width=870,%20toolbar=no,%20menubar=no,%20scrollbars=no,%20resizable=yes,%20location=no,%20directories=no,%20status=no'));
> 
> 

feedback:
"This did not work at all.  I proudly use a linux distribution on my computer so 
I got a message saying that you don't care about me.  I see no reason to use 
your product, I will stay with companies that do care about me."

Alan

-- 
"The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated 
concept.  If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in 
life and actually grok it."



From d.mcglone at att.net  Wed Jan 21 02:41:41 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:41:41 -0500
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
In-Reply-To: <4976705A.4070807@ajinfosearch.com>
References: <f495db580901201628x6c1efc11wc389a1b13064793b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4976705A.4070807@ajinfosearch.com>
Message-ID: <200901202141.42283.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Tuesday 20 January 2009 7:46:18 pm Alan Dacey wrote:
> Knapp wrote:
> > Please test it and then click their feedback button!
> >
> > javascript:void(window.open%20('http://videocast.yahoo.com/test/player.ht
> >ml',%20'playerWindow',%20config='height=750,%20width=870,%20toolbar=no,%20
> >menubar=no,%20scrollbars=no,%20resizable=yes,%20location=no,%20directories
> >=no,%20status=no'));
>
> feedback:
> "This did not work at all.  I proudly use a linux distribution on my
> computer so I got a message saying that you don't care about me.  I see no
> reason to use your product, I will stay with companies that do care about
> me."

feedback:

Site said it didn't support Linux. I see now why Google is so popular.
-- 
David McG.



From d.mcglone at att.net  Wed Jan 21 02:56:57 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:56:57 -0500
Subject: connecting to a hidden WAP router
In-Reply-To: <4975F0B4.7050104@verizon.net>
References: <4940191C.3050707@prayingforisrael.net>
	<4940FB24.3010204@prayingforisrael.net>
	<4975F0B4.7050104@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901202156.58515.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Tuesday 20 January 2009 10:41:40 am Joel Oliver wrote:
> > So how do folks connect to routers that don't broadcast their essid's --
> > what is the point of that router option if one cannot connect to it?
> >
> > Blessings,
> >
> > Nigel
>
> There's really no security benifit at all by hiding your essid, as it
> can be sniffed in the air.  Just like the "MAC" address filter, which
> also sounds like a good idea... Hey, I will only let my computers
> connect and block all others.  It's a simple matter of sniffing and
> spoofing it.

This is what I do. I only let my mac addresses connect to my network.
-- 
David McG.



From phantom21 at mindspring.com  Wed Jan 21 03:01:24 2009
From: phantom21 at mindspring.com (Mark Halegua)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:01:24 -0500
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
Message-ID: <200901202201.24723.phantom21@mindspring.com>

Mr. Knapp,

Please tell yahoo if it wants to send email to Linux user groups about testing 
something, it should at least be able to do more than say it will only work 
with windows and OSX.

That's like saying to a kid, "here's some candy.  But, you can't have any."

Don't give us something to test unless it at least doesn't warn us it won't 
work for us.

Mark



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Wed Jan 21 03:07:15 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:07:15 -0400
Subject: connecting to a hidden WAP router
References: <4940191C.3050707@prayingforisrael.net>
	<4940FB24.3010204@prayingforisrael.net>
	<4975F0B4.7050104@verizon.net>
	<200901202156.58515.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <44gi46-3qu.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

David McGlone wrote:

> On Tuesday 20 January 2009 10:41:40 am Joel Oliver wrote:
>> > So how do folks connect to routers that don't broadcast their essid's
>> > -- what is the point of that router option if one cannot connect to it?
>> >
>> There's really no security benifit at all by hiding your essid, as it
>> can be sniffed in the air.  Just like the "MAC" address filter, which
>> also sounds like a good idea... Hey, I will only let my computers
>> connect and block all others.  It's a simple matter of sniffing and
>> spoofing it.
> 
> This is what I do. I only let my mac addresses connect to my network.

Not really.  You only let network interfaces _claiming_ to be your MAC 
addresses connect to the network.  Unfortunately, every NIC is required by 
the ethernet protocol to announce its MAC address with every packet it 
sends, and any sniffer can find the MACs on your network - and then making 
another NIC send that address is trivial.






From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 03:39:37 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:39:37 -0500
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
In-Reply-To: <200901202201.24723.phantom21@mindspring.com>
References: <200901202201.24723.phantom21@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <497698F9.40704@gatech.edu>

Mark Halegua wrote:
> Mr. Knapp,
> 
> Please tell yahoo if it wants to send email to Linux user groups about testing 
> something, it should at least be able to do more than say it will only work 
> with windows and OSX.

Knapp is a regular participant here, and I do not believe he works for
Yahoo.  I think his intention sending that link here is that Yahoo will
get a large amount of feedback requesting GNU/Linux support.

> That's like saying to a kid, "here's some candy.  But, you can't have any."

I think he is hoping enough of us "kids" will ask for candy that we'll
get it.

> Don't give us something to test unless it at least doesn't warn us it won't 
> work for us.

Fair point, but it really doesn't take long to "test" since it uses
hard-coded browser detection.

Anyway, I sent:

"For some reason, your player says "This version of the Conviva LivePass
is not supported on your operating system.
Supported systems are: Windows XP and Vista, Mac OS X 10.5 on Intel
platform."  This resulted in me being unable to complete the
installation process.

Perhaps you should use open standards, so your player will work on all
platforms, and don't have to waste money on browser detection hacks or
even surveys!"

P.S. This should have been marked OT.

Matt Flaschen



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Wed Jan 21 03:47:54 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:47:54 -0500
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
In-Reply-To: <200901202141.42283.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <f495db580901201628x6c1efc11wc389a1b13064793b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4976705A.4070807@ajinfosearch.com>
	<200901202141.42283.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <200901202247.54481.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Tuesday 20 January 2009, David McGlone wrote:
>On Tuesday 20 January 2009 7:46:18 pm Alan Dacey wrote:
>> Knapp wrote:
>> > Please test it and then click their feedback button!
>> >
>> > javascript:void(window.open%20('http://videocast.yahoo.com/test/player.h
>> >t
>> > ml',%20'playerWindow',%20config='height=750,%20width=870,%20toolbar=no,%
>> >20
>> > menubar=no,%20scrollbars=no,%20resizable=yes,%20location=no,%20directori
>> >es =no,%20status=no'));
>>
>> feedback:
>> "This did not work at all.  I proudly use a linux distribution on my
>> computer so I got a message saying that you don't care about me.  I see no
>> reason to use your product, I will stay with companies that do care about
>> me."
>
>feedback:
>
>Site said it didn't support Linux. I see now why Google is so popular.

And if I may be so rude as to call a bloody shovel just that, the original 
post was spam, pure and simple.  I wonder how much M$ paid for that?

>--
>David McG.



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
There are only two kinds of men -- the dead and the deadly.
		-- Helen Rowland



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 03:53:34 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:53:34 -0500
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
In-Reply-To: <200901202247.54481.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <f495db580901201628x6c1efc11wc389a1b13064793b@mail.gmail.com>	<4976705A.4070807@ajinfosearch.com>	<200901202141.42283.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<200901202247.54481.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <49769C3E.8010309@gatech.edu>

Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Site said it didn't support Linux. I see now why Google is so popular.
> 
> And if I may be so rude as to call a bloody shovel just that, the original 
> post was spam, pure and simple.  I wonder how much M$ paid for that?

I disagree.  It was OT, but Knapp is a regular contributor, and I don't
think you have cause to allege he's a Microsoft shill.

Matt Flaschen



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Wed Jan 21 03:54:29 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:54:29 -0600
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
In-Reply-To: <200901202201.24723.phantom21@mindspring.com>
References: <200901202201.24723.phantom21@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <49769C75.1020306@swbell.net>

Mark Halegua wrote:
> Mr. Knapp,
>
> Please tell yahoo if it wants to send email to Linux user groups about testing 
> something, it should at least be able to do more than say it will only work 
> with windows and OSX.
>
> That's like saying to a kid, "here's some candy.  But, you can't have any."
>
> Don't give us something to test unless it at least doesn't warn us it won't 
> work for us.
>
> Mark
>
>   
I filled out their feedback form.

-- 
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.




From cary at bielenberg.id.au  Wed Jan 21 04:22:35 2009
From: cary at bielenberg.id.au (Cary Bielenberg)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:22:35 +1000
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
In-Reply-To: <49769C3E.8010309@gatech.edu>
References: <f495db580901201628x6c1efc11wc389a1b13064793b@mail.gmail.com>	<4976705A.4070807@ajinfosearch.com>	<200901202141.42283.d.mcglone@att.net>	<200901202247.54481.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<49769C3E.8010309@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <4976A30B.3090507@bielenberg.id.au>



Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
>   
>>> Site said it didn't support Linux. I see now why Google is so popular.
>>>       
>> And if I may be so rude as to call a bloody shovel just that, the original 
>> post was spam, pure and simple.  I wonder how much M$ paid for that?
>>     
>
> I disagree.  It was OT, but Knapp is a regular contributor, and I don't
> think you have cause to allege he's a Microsoft shill.
>
> Matt Flaschen
>
>   
I think it is good to "stick it up" the likes of Yahoo & let them know 
how many of us are being ostracised!


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From d.mcglone at att.net  Wed Jan 21 04:33:25 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:33:25 -0500
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
In-Reply-To: <49769C75.1020306@swbell.net>
References: <200901202201.24723.phantom21@mindspring.com>
	<49769C75.1020306@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <200901202333.25487.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Tuesday 20 January 2009 10:54:29 pm Billie Walsh wrote:
> Mark Halegua wrote:
> > Mr. Knapp,
> >
> > Please tell yahoo if it wants to send email to Linux user groups about
> > testing something, it should at least be able to do more than say it will
> > only work with windows and OSX.
> >
> > That's like saying to a kid, "here's some candy.  But, you can't have
> > any."
> >
> > Don't give us something to test unless it at least doesn't warn us it
> > won't work for us.
> >
> > Mark
>
> I filled out their feedback form.
>
> --
> Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.

I think all of us should fill it out.
-- 
David McG.



From phantom21 at mindspring.com  Wed Jan 21 04:39:54 2009
From: phantom21 at mindspring.com (Mark Halegua)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:39:54 -0500
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
In-Reply-To: <f495db580901201628x6c1efc11wc389a1b13064793b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f495db580901201628x6c1efc11wc389a1b13064793b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901202339.54354.phantom21@mindspring.com>

On Tuesday 20 January 2009 07:28:06 pm Knapp wrote:
> Please test it and then click their feedback button!
>
> javascript:void(window.open%20('http://videocast.yahoo.com/test/player.html
>',%20'playerWindow',%20config='height=750,%20width=870,%20toolbar=no,%20menu
>bar=no,%20scrollbars=no,%20resizable=yes,%20location=no,%20directories=no,%2
>0status=no'));
>
>
> --
> Douglas E Knapp
>
> Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!!
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&li
>nkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE

I tried this a second time, configuring my browser switcher agent to IE 6 on 
Vista, and I did get a screen for downloading the streamer app, only to find 
the app is, of course an EXE.

I'm sure if I'd I'd set the ID to something OSX it would have given me a 
downloadable file for that OS.

Mark



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Wed Jan 21 04:46:54 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:46:54 -0500
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
In-Reply-To: <49769C3E.8010309@gatech.edu>
References: <f495db580901201628x6c1efc11wc389a1b13064793b@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901202247.54481.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<49769C3E.8010309@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901202346.54667.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Tuesday 20 January 2009, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Site said it didn't support Linux. I see now why Google is so popular.
>>
>> And if I may be so rude as to call a bloody shovel just that, the original
>> post was spam, pure and simple.  I wonder how much M$ paid for that?
>
>I disagree.  It was OT, but Knapp is a regular contributor, and I don't
>think you have cause to allege he's a Microsoft shill.
>
I now realize that, my apologies to Mr. Knapp.

But its no secret that I don't have a lot of use for yahoo's TOS, and I have 
as little contact with them as I can.  Unforch I am stuck with 2 or 3 of the 
40+ lists I am subbed to, being yahoo managed lists.  I bothers me no end 
that someone can have a project up on a web page managed by yahoo, and will 
post a link to that page, only to be denied access because I am not a member 
in good standing with yahoo Groups.  And as long as yahoo says in their TOS 
that they own the copyright for every character that passes through their 
servers, it will continue to be a mostly hate relationship on my part.

I may have an overrated opinion of my prose here on the linux lists as I'm no 
where near a guru, but no one but me should be able to claim a copyright on 
or file a patent based on what I write.  I have been the target of idea 
stealers before, I found one of my ideas at the NAB show once, done poorly 
and incompletely but obviously based on a piece of gear I designed and built 
while at a tv station in No. CA as the ACE that I had proudly shown to their 
sales rep a few months before, obviously my mistake.

I won't willingly suggest a solution that may be better, and have a yahoo 
legal at the USTPO the next morning filing on what is basically a napkin 
sketch picked up off the floor.  That is not right, and all of you should 
have the same attitude.  FWIW I raised hell and stuck a brick under one 
corner of it right then and there.  The product was gone from their booth 
half an hour later and never marketed.

Had they come to me with a small royalty offer, they would have found me 
pretty receptive, but they went behind my back.  And that pulled my very 
light trigger.

Names obviously not mentioned to protect the guilty.  And, unless there are 
old timer broadcasters like me here, probably not familiar names anyway.

>Matt Flaschen



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness.
		-- John Muir



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 05:05:58 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:05:58 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <49737FC2.9000906@gatech.edu>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901181409.32924.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49737FC2.9000906@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901210005.58781.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

Dear Matt,

I downloaded a movie called 7 Pounds.  It is a .rar.  It has the problem that 
wasn't apparent when you were helping me join .avi's that were downloaded 
as .rar's.

After being unsuccessful using unrar, I attempted to play the movie using Ark 
to uncompress the .rar.  When the title bar shows this as a reference to what 
I am 
doing, "file:///media/sda5/CompletedDownloads/7.Pounds~DvdScr~Ac3~maz/Cd1/7P~maz1.part01.rar -  
Ark", the name of the file in .avi form is, "7P~maz1.avi".  Double clicking 
on that title opens the movie, but I cannot cut and paste that file into a 
folder for future avimerge.  It opens the movie, but takes forever to open.    
When I attempt to do the same task using the konsole, I keep getting the rar 
as not a Directory.  Will you step in and straighten me out again using the 
konsole to do the work?  Thanks if you are willing.

Steven





From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 05:08:04 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:08:04 -0500
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
In-Reply-To: <200901202346.54667.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <f495db580901201628x6c1efc11wc389a1b13064793b@mail.gmail.com>	<200901202247.54481.gene.heskett@verizon.net>	<49769C3E.8010309@gatech.edu>
	<200901202346.54667.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4976ADB4.1070505@gatech.edu>

Gene Heskett wrote:
> And as long as yahoo says in their TOS  that they own the copyright
for every
> character that passes through their servers, it will continue to be a mostly
> hate relationship on my part.

It doesn't say that (at least anymore).  In fact it says, "Yahoo! does
not claim ownership of Content you submit or make available for
inclusion on the Yahoo! Services."
(http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/).  There is a "worldwide,
royalty-free and non-exclusive license" but that is fairly standard.

Even if it did claim copyright, it would be invalid.  You can't transfer
copyright by click wrap.  A "transfer of copyright ownership, other than
by operation of law, is not valid unless an instrument of conveyance, or
a note or memorandum of the transfer, is in writing and signed"
(http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap2.html#204).  Patents also
require an "instrument in writing"
(http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/35/261.html).

> I won't willingly suggest a solution that may be better, and have a yahoo 
> legal at the USTPO the next morning filing on what is basically a napkin 
> sketch picked up off the floor.  That is not right, and all of you should 
> have the same attitude.

They don't have the right to do that.

Best,

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 05:10:22 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:10:22 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901210005.58781.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901181409.32924.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49737FC2.9000906@gatech.edu>
	<200901210005.58781.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4976AE3E.40302@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> After being unsuccessful using unrar,

Always give the error messages when something doesn't work.

 I attempted to play the movie using Ark
> to uncompress the .rar.  When the title bar shows this as a reference to what 
> I am 
> doing, "file:///media/sda5/CompletedDownloads/7.Pounds~DvdScr~Ac3~maz/Cd1/7P~maz1.part01.rar -  
> Ark", the name of the file in .avi form is, "7P~maz1.avi".  Double clicking 
> on that title opens the movie, but I cannot cut and paste that file into a 
> folder for future avimerge. 

As I said, click the Action menu, then Extract.

 It opens the movie, but takes forever to open.
> When I attempt to do the same task using the konsole, I keep getting the rar 
> as not a Directory.  Will you step in and straighten me out again using the 
> konsole to do the work?

I could, but since you're already using Ark you might as well do it that
way.

Matt Flaschen




From d.mcglone at att.net  Wed Jan 21 05:11:04 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:11:04 -0500
Subject: connecting to a hidden WAP router
In-Reply-To: <44gi46-3qu.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <4940191C.3050707@prayingforisrael.net>
	<200901202156.58515.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<44gi46-3qu.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <200901210011.04227.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Tuesday 20 January 2009 10:07:15 pm Derek Broughton wrote:
> David McGlone wrote:
> > On Tuesday 20 January 2009 10:41:40 am Joel Oliver wrote:
> >> > So how do folks connect to routers that don't broadcast their essid's
> >> > -- what is the point of that router option if one cannot connect to
> >> > it?
> >>
> >> There's really no security benifit at all by hiding your essid, as it
> >> can be sniffed in the air.  Just like the "MAC" address filter, which
> >> also sounds like a good idea... Hey, I will only let my computers
> >> connect and block all others.  It's a simple matter of sniffing and
> >> spoofing it.
> >
> > This is what I do. I only let my mac addresses connect to my network.
>
> Not really.  You only let network interfaces _claiming_ to be your MAC
> addresses connect to the network.  Unfortunately, every NIC is required by
> the ethernet protocol to announce its MAC address with every packet it
> sends, and any sniffer can find the MACs on your network - and then making
> another NIC send that address is trivial.

Is this bad? Should I use something better?
-- 
David McG.



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 05:15:33 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:15:33 -0500
Subject: connecting to a hidden WAP router
In-Reply-To: <200901210011.04227.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <4940191C.3050707@prayingforisrael.net>	<200901202156.58515.d.mcglone@att.net>	<44gi46-3qu.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901210011.04227.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <4976AF75.2040501@gatech.edu>

David McGlone wrote:
>> Not really.  You only let network interfaces _claiming_ to be your MAC
>> addresses connect to the network.  Unfortunately, every NIC is required by
>> the ethernet protocol to announce its MAC address with every packet it
>> sends, and any sniffer can find the MACs on your network - and then making
>> another NIC send that address is trivial.
> 
> Is this bad? Should I use something better?

MAC address filtering is a good tool.  I would keep using it, but like
Derek says, /it is not sufficient/.

Matt Flaschen



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Wed Jan 21 05:17:41 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:17:41 -0500
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
In-Reply-To: <4976ADB4.1070505@gatech.edu>
References: <f495db580901201628x6c1efc11wc389a1b13064793b@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901202346.54667.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<4976ADB4.1070505@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901210017.41561.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> And as long as yahoo says in their TOS  that they own the copyright
>
>for every
>
>> character that passes through their servers, it will continue to be a
>> mostly hate relationship on my part.
>
>It doesn't say that (at least anymore).  In fact it says, "Yahoo! does
>not claim ownership of Content you submit or make available for
>inclusion on the Yahoo! Services."

Thanks, I had not actually checked recently.

>(http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/).  There is a "worldwide,
>royalty-free and non-exclusive license" but that is fairly standard.

I'll have to read that when I am awake, which I am not really ATM, too late 
for me.

>Even if it did claim copyright, it would be invalid.  You can't transfer
>copyright by click wrap.  A "transfer of copyright ownership, other than
>by operation of law, is not valid unless an instrument of conveyance, or
>a note or memorandum of the transfer, is in writing and signed"
>(http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap2.html#204).  Patents also
>require an "instrument in writing"
>(http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/35/261.html).
>
>> I won't willingly suggest a solution that may be better, and have a yahoo
>> legal at the USTPO the next morning filing on what is basically a napkin
>> sketch picked up off the floor.  That is not right, and all of you should
>> have the same attitude.
>
>They don't have the right to do that.

Good.  Excellent even.  Thank you, Matt.

>Best,
>
>Matt Flaschen



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Sigmund's wife wore Freudian slips.



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 05:22:04 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:22:04 -0500
Subject: What is Skim for Hardy KDE 3.5.10
Message-ID: <200901210022.04840.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I have an icon on my menu drop-down that has 'sk' on it.  It says it is skim.  
I have googled, man paged skim, and can't find anything that says what it 
does.  I tried to obtain a manual or description of what it is and what it 
does, without success.  TIA.

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 05:27:51 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:27:51 -0500
Subject: What is Skim for Hardy KDE 3.5.10
In-Reply-To: <200901210022.04840.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901210022.04840.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4976B257.4000700@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I have an icon on my menu drop-down that has 'sk' on it.  It says it is skim.  
> I have googled, man paged skim, and can't find anything that says what it 
> does.  I tried to obtain a manual or description of what it is and what it 
> does, without success.  TIA.

In this case, the (or a) right command is:

apt-cache show skim

smart common input method platform for KDE
 skim is KDE frontend for the SCIM input method platform.
 It provides a GUI panel and a KConfig module. It has its
 own plug-in system that supports on demand loadable actions.
Homepage: http://www.scim-im.org/projects/skim

Basically, it's used to facilitate input in non-Latin languages.  If you
only write in English, you don't need it, but I would not recommend
removing it.

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 05:30:18 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:30:18 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <4976AE3E.40302@gatech.edu>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901210005.58781.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4976AE3E.40302@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901210030.18143.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


>
> I could, but since you're already using Ark you might as well do it that

 I tried, but what I want to do is get to a point where I can join the two 
halves of the movie using avimerge.  With the titles shown, I either can not 
get into the proper directory, or I am doing something wrong that I cannot 
see.  

This is the problem that I have always had using Ark.  I did "extract" and the 
movie opened.  I attempted to cut and paste the 7P~maz1.avi and couldn't.  I 
did not understand this part before, and I still don't.  Nonetheless, if I 
knew what to enter into the Konsole this time, I believe it would work.  
Additionally, I am more interested in being  able to use the konsole 
effectively than even playing or joining the movie.  I would like to get to 
the point where I can work with .rar's and .avi's, and mp3's, etc without 
having to trouble anyone anymore.

GUI's have been a crutch that has kept me from learning.  Thanks if you will.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 05:53:01 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:53:01 -0500
Subject: What is Skim for Hardy KDE 3.5.10
In-Reply-To: <4976B257.4000700@gatech.edu>
References: <200901210022.04840.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4976B257.4000700@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901210053.01783.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Basically, it's used to facilitate input in non-Latin languages.  If you
> only write in English, you don't need it, but I would not recommend
> removing it.

apt cache show skim showed 3 java packages to install, but I won't since I 
don't need it.  I just ignore the icon on the dropdown then?  Just when I 
think I am getting a handle on something I go back into the maze.  I still 
want to solve my .rar problem using konsole.  Thanks friend.

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 05:54:59 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:54:59 -0500
Subject: What is Skim for Hardy KDE 3.5.10
In-Reply-To: <200901210053.01783.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901210022.04840.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4976B257.4000700@gatech.edu>
	<200901210053.01783.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4976B8B3.3060200@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> Basically, it's used to facilitate input in non-Latin languages.  If you
>> only write in English, you don't need it, but I would not recommend
>> removing it.
> 
> apt cache show skim showed 3 java packages to install,

What do you mean?  If you just run:

apt-cache show skim

on the command-line, it shouldn't ask you to install anything.
> don't need it.  I just ignore the icon on the dropdown then?

Yeah.

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 06:29:50 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:29:50 -0500
Subject: TitleBar Reads: Error - KIOExec Malformed URL home:/. when I try to
	use 'find'.
Message-ID: <200901210129.50778.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

When I attempt to use 'find' to find something, I get the 'subject' error.  

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 06:43:04 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:43:04 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901210030.18143.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901210005.58781.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4976AE3E.40302@gatech.edu>
	<200901210030.18143.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4976C3F8.6040803@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> This is the problem that I have always had using Ark.  I did "extract" and the 
> movie opened.

I don't think you're doing what I said.  What do you see right when you
click Action->Extract?

> I attempted to cut and paste the 7P~maz1.avi and couldn't.

Don't cut and paste.

> I did not understand this part before, and I still don't.  Nonetheless, if I 
> knew what to enter into the Konsole this time, I believe it would work.

Okay, go to the directory where the rar is (do you know where it is?),
and type:

unrar-free -t *.rar
unrar-free *.rar

Matt Flaschen




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 06:57:58 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:57:58 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <4976C3F8.6040803@gatech.edu>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901210030.18143.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4976C3F8.6040803@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901210157.58950.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 1:43:04 am Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> unrar-free *.rar

I get a bad address so I am probably entering things wrong.  I did ls on the 
directory that contains the 7 Pounds rar, and it shows:

unrar-free: invalid archive '*.rar': Bad address
Usage: unrar-free [OPTION...] ARCHIVE [FILE...] [DESTINATION]
Try `unrar-free --help' or `unrar-free --usage' for more information.
steven at Studio25:/media/sda5/CompletedDownloads$ ls
21
7.Pounds~DvdScr~Ac3~maz
Alphabet Killer
Appaloosa
Behind Enemy Lines - Colombia
Bustin Down the Door
Cd1
Cd1unrar
Chronicles of Riddick
Clear and Present Danger
Clerks I
Clerks II
Day the Earth Stood Still
Death Race
Diamond Dogs
Eagle Eye
Forbidden Kingdom
Fountain
Ghost Town
HebrewMusic
MyDreamComputer
Pistol Whipped
Punisher War Zone
Rescue Dawn
Rollerball
Shooting Gallery
Shoot On Sight
 Sixth Sense
Stargate.Collection.DvDrip-aXXo
Star.Wars.I-VI.Collection.DvDrip-aXXo
The.Jason.Bourne.Movie.Collection[1988-2007]DvDrip-aXXo
The.Oxford.Murders[2008]DvDrip-aXXo
Traitor
Wanted
X-Files - Fight the Future
steven at Studio25:/media/sda5/CompletedDownloads$ unrar-free *.rar
unrar-free: invalid archive '*.rar': Bad address
Usage: unrar-free [OPTION...] ARCHIVE [FILE...] [DESTINATION]
Try `unrar-free --help' or `unrar-free --usage' for more information.
steven at Studio25:/media/sda5/CompletedDownloads$ 7.Pounds~DvdScr~Ac3~maz
bash: 7.Pounds~DvdScr~Ac3~maz: command not found
steven at Studio25:/media/sda5/CompletedDownloads$ 
cd /media/sda5/CompletedDownloads/7.Pounds~DvdScr~Ac3~maz
steven at Studio25:/media/sda5/CompletedDownloads/7.Pounds~DvdScr~Ac3~maz$ 
unrar-free -t *.rar
unrar-free: invalid archive '*.rar': Bad address
Usage: unrar-free [OPTION...] ARCHIVE [FILE...] [DESTINATION]
Try `unrar-free --help' or `unrar-free --usage' for more information.
steven at Studio25:/media/sda5/CompletedDownloads/7.Pounds~DvdScr~Ac3~maz$

7.Pounds~DvdScr~Ac3~maz is the title to the download; it opens to two 
folders 'Cd1' and 'Cd2'.  When I click on either of them they open with a 
list of .rar's.

Steven




From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 07:01:32 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:01:32 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <200901210157.58950.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901210030.18143.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4976C3F8.6040803@gatech.edu>
	<200901210157.58950.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4976C84C.4030809@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 1:43:04 am Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>> unrar-free *.rar
> 
> I get a bad address so I am probably entering things wrong.

That means there's no rar in the current directory.

> I did ls on the 
> directory that contains the 7 Pounds rar, and it shows:
> 
> unrar-free: invalid archive '*.rar': Bad address
> Usage: unrar-free [OPTION...] ARCHIVE [FILE...] [DESTINATION]
> Try `unrar-free --help' or `unrar-free --usage' for more information.
> steven at Studio25:/media/sda5/CompletedDownloads$ ls

There's no rar in this directory.  Do:

ls -lh

instead so I can see what's a folder and what's a directory.

> 21
> 7.Pounds~DvdScr~Ac3~maz

In particular that will tell us what this really is (a directory?).
> steven at Studio25:/media/sda5/CompletedDownloads$ 7.Pounds~DvdScr~Ac3~maz
> bash: 7.Pounds~DvdScr~Ac3~maz: command not found

It's not a command in your path.

Matt Flaschen



From magick.crow at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 07:08:45 2009
From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:08:45 +0100
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
In-Reply-To: <497698F9.40704@gatech.edu>
References: <200901202201.24723.phantom21@mindspring.com>
	<497698F9.40704@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <f495db580901202308i3552c82fs17d9855b43ea288d@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/21/09, Matthew Flaschen <matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu> wrote:
> Mark Halegua wrote:
>> Mr. Knapp,
>>
>> Please tell yahoo if it wants to send email to Linux user groups about
>> testing
>> something, it should at least be able to do more than say it will only
>> work
>> with windows and OSX.
>
> Knapp is a regular participant here, and I do not believe he works for
> Yahoo.  I think his intention sending that link here is that Yahoo will
> get a large amount of feedback requesting GNU/Linux support.

Thanks for the support and yes you are correct on both counts! If I
did, I would be looking to find a new job before they tank, as it
seems they are headed that way.


>> That's like saying to a kid, "here's some candy.  But, you can't have
>> any."
>
> I think he is hoping enough of us "kids" will ask for candy that we'll
> get it.
>
>> Don't give us something to test unless it at least doesn't warn us it
>> won't
>> work for us.
>
> Fair point, but it really doesn't take long to "test" since it uses
> hard-coded browser detection.
>
> Anyway, I sent:
>
> "For some reason, your player says "This version of the Conviva LivePass
> is not supported on your operating system.
> Supported systems are: Windows XP and Vista, Mac OS X 10.5 on Intel
> platform."  This resulted in me being unable to complete the
> installation process.
>
> Perhaps you should use open standards, so your player will work on all
> platforms, and don't have to waste money on browser detection hacks or
> even surveys!"
>
> P.S. This should have been marked OT.
>
> Matt Flaschen

OT perhaps but getting Ubuntu and thus Linux supported by major
companies is not OT IMOHO.


-- 
Douglas E Knapp

Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE



From basroufs at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 12:08:52 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:08:52 +0100
Subject: Is it possible to manually activate an eth0 connection?
In-Reply-To: <gl34nl$o2i$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <c638edc20901141327kb024ea7t7e153838099efd96@mail.gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901150342s674efd84yc4e1b0153d6a005d@mail.gmail.com>
	<gkohub$ie7$1@ger.gmane.org> <200901160949.03324.kassube@gmx.net>
	<c638edc20901160249m37352ee5qc48230ed8bc5da31@mail.gmail.com>
	<gl34nl$o2i$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901210408j1df18695o1fb9d3c9667aeacd@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Everybody

Thanks for all your useful advise so far. However, I still get stuck
in my attempts to connect my laptop to the internet. In this message,
I summarise how recent advises from some amongst you worked out in the
case of Kubuntu 8.10 at my laptop - a Medion 5400, 40 GB, Pentium 4/
2,5 Ghz processor.

I start with the file /etc/network/interfaces.

> > auto lo
> > iface lo inet loopback
>
> modify the file to include _only_ those two lines. You can comment out
> the rest by placing a # in front if you wish:
>
> # auto eth0
> # iface eth0 inet static
> # address 192.168.1.20
> # netmask 255.255.255.0
> # gateway 192.18.1.1
>
> or delete them. It does not matter.

After carrying out this advise in at least 2 ways, I did not manage
any more to ping my router (192.168.1.254) and desktop (192.168.1.33).
The 'destination host' was in both cases 'unreachable', according to
the Unix terminal feedback. Also an attempt to ping an external
website ended up in an 'unknown host' feedback.

That's why I have re-edited etc/network/interfaces back to as it was
at the 19th of January:

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.1.20
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.1.254

After saving the file re-edited like this, I manage again to "ping"
the router and desktop. The terminal test feedbacks were again like
those in the alinea after this one. "^C" = the control-C command meant
to manually stop the 'ping' process. (Thanks for that idea, NoOp!)

bas at Viaconsensus2:~$ ping 192.168.1.254
PING 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=1 ttl=254 time=1.00 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=2 ttl=254 time=0.971 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.254: icmp_seq=3 ttl=254 time=1.00 ms
^C
--- 192.168.1.254 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2007ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.971/0.993/1.008/0.015 ms

However, I still do not yet manage to ping google.com or any other
external website. At a terminal, the fruitless attempt looked like
this:
bas at Viaconsensus2:~$ ping google.com
ping: unknown host google.com

With respect to the /etc/network/interfaces file, an advise came in to
replace this: ...
> iface eth0 inet static
...with this:
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
After doing so, attempts to ping my router ('unreachable'), desktop
('unreachable') and an external website ('unknown host') were all
fruitless.
That's why, I put back 'inet static' in the interfaces file. After
doing so, attempts to ping the desktop and router were successful, but
pinging google.com still did not work out.

A core issue is now, whether it is possible to manually configure an
eth0 connection via 'KNetwork', the network manager of Kubuntu 8.10.
With respect to this issue, this advise recently came in:

> Now open the intrepid network manager and click on the Wired tab and
> entry for "Wired connection 1" then click "Edit". In IPv4 Settings:
>
> Method: Manual
> Addresses:
>  Address - 192.168.1.20
>  Netmask - 255.255.255.0
>  Gateway - 192.168.1.254
> DNS Servers: enter the dns servers for your ISP ...
With respect to this issue, I get this info via http://www.whatsmyip.org
NameServer: NS-PRI.RIPE.NET
NameServer: NS3.NIC.FR
NameServer: SEC1.APNIC.NET
NameServer: SEC3.APNIC.NET
NameServer: SUNIC.SUNET.SE
NameServer: TINNIE.ARIN.NET

The same site whatsmyip.org clarifies the "external IP" of my DESKTOP
PC, from which I am writing this message: 82.169.250.209
At a terminal on the desktop, I carried out a dig test with this IP
number. This was the outcome:

bas at Viaconsensus1:~$ dig 82.169.250.209
; <<>> DiG 9.5.0-P2 <<>> 82.169.250.209
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 34038
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;82.169.250.209.                        IN      A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
.                       10800   IN      SOA     A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
NSTLD.VERISIGN-GRS.COM. 2009012000 1800 900 604800 86400

;; Query time: 28 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.254#53(192.168.1.254)
;; WHEN: Tue Jan 20 12:11:19 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 107

If I understand you correctly, NoOp, my 'DNS' should be, as a matter
of consequence: "192.168.1.254".
In KNetworkmanager, the manual menu for wired connections contains two
lines I need to fill in with respect to DNS: 'DNS Addresses' and 'DNS
Search'. First I filled in the 'name servers' coming out of
whatsmyip.org in the line 'DNS Addresses' and "192.168.1.254" (without
the "-signs) in the line 'DNS Search'. But after saving, closing and
re-opening this output, the 'name server' names in the DNS Addresses
line vanished. Three attempts worked out like that.
Than I put the DNS info inversely: '192.168.1.254' in 'DNS Addresses'
and the 'name servers' in 'DNS Search'. KNETWORKMANAGER does maintain
this input after saving and closing. However, even the option 'save
and connect' does not yet result in an effectively working internet
connection from my laptop. On the other hand, it did not harm anything
neither. I still DO manage to ping my router and desktop from the
laptop.

> Now click on the "Wired" tab and enter the mac address for your eth0
> (from your ifconfig output):
>
> MAC Address: 00:40:ca:bc:9e:88
> MTU: 1500

In 'KNetworkmanager' I did not find any tab or option to fill in the
'MAC Adress' and 'MTU'. Do I overlook anything? Is there any other
option to manually fill in such information?

> Now click OK. You'll get a password prompt: enter your password.
In KNetworkmanager, it did not work out like this.

>From a terminal at the laptop, I carried out some tests, advised to me
in this thread.

> cat /etc/resolv.conf
The test  "cat /etc/resolv.conf" delivered only this feedback:
# generated by NetworkManager

Then, I tried to run 'NetWorkManager' as root, from the terminal. But
nothing happened: no menu popped up, but also no information about any
mistake.

> cat /etc/hosts
This test worked out in the feedback below and above the ==== lines.

=======================
bas at Viaconsensus2:~$ cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1       localhost
127.0.1.1       Viaconsensus2

# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
fe00::0 ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
========================

> ping google.com
As mentioned above, this ping test is fruitless:
ping: unknown host google.com

> ping 192.168.1.1
This test worked out as indicated in between the === lines.

=====================
bas at Viaconsensus2:~$ ping 192.168.1.1
PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
>From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
>From 192.168.1.20 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
 .....seq=4.....sec=5 ...etc. ...sec=29 Destination Host Unreachable

--- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
29 packets transmitted, 0 received, +21 errors, 100% packet loss, time 28029ms
, pipe 3
=======================

This ping test was fruitless. On the other hand: as indicated above, I
DO manage to ping the router and desktop.

> cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules

The outcome of this test in between the === lines.

================================
bas at Viaconsensus2:~$ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
# This file maintains persistent names for network interfaces.
# See udev(7) for syntax.
#
# Entries are automatically added by the 75-persistent-net-generator.rules
# file; however you are also free to add your own entries.

# PCI device 0x10ec:0x8139 (8139too)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:40:ca:bc:9e:88", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*",
NAME="eth0"

# PCI device 0x115d:0x0003 (xircom_cb)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:10:a4:75:ba:4a", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*",
NAME="eth1"
====================================

Finally, I provide you with possibly useful information that I got via
whatsmyip.org:

External IP:  	        82.169.250.209
(= desktop?)
Hostname: 	        82-169-250-209.ip.telfort.nl
Proxy:                      No Proxy or Invisible Proxy Used
Internal (LAN) IP:     192.168.1.33
Outgoing Port: 	12639
(...)

ReferralServer:         whois://whois.ripe.net:43

NetRange: 82.0.0.0 - 82.255.255.255
CIDR: 82.0.0.0/8
NetName: 82-RIPE
NetHandle: NET-82-0-0-0-1
Parent:
NetType: Allocated to RIPE NCC
NameServer: NS-PRI.RIPE.NET
NameServer: NS3.NIC.FR
NameServer: SEC1.APNIC.NET
NameServer: SEC3.APNIC.NET
NameServer: SUNIC.SUNET.SE
NameServer: TINNIE.ARIN.NET
(.....)
% Information related to '82.169.224.0 - 82.169.255.255'
(....)
inetnum: 82.169.224.0 - 82.169.255.255
netname: NL-TELFORT-DSL
descr: Telfort internet
descr: Internet Service Provider
descr: DSL Customer Network
country: NL
admin-c: GITR1-RIPE
tech-c: GITR1-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: WOLTECH-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

admin-c: MH6157-RIPE
tech-c: RP1269-RIPE
tech-c: MH6157-RIPE
nic-hdl: GITR1-RIPE
mnt-by: WOLADM-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to '82.168.0.0/14AS5615'

route: 82.168.0.0/14
descr: Green ISP B.V.
origin: AS5615
mnt-by: WISH-MNT
mnt-by: WOLADM-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

To finish this message: nearly 3 days of testing still do not result
in a working eth0-connection from my laptop. So, I hope get some extra
feedback which could possibly enable me to fill in the white spots on
my map...... My next possibility to carry out tests and to get back to
you will be next Saturday or Sunday.

Respectfully yours,

Bas.

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Bas G. Roufs M.A.
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 12:20:26 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:20:26 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <4976AE3E.40302@gatech.edu>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901210005.58781.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4976AE3E.40302@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901210720.26493.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

> As I said, click the Action menu, then Extract.

I don't mean to frustrate you.  I am trying very hard to comply with your 
instructions.  When Ark opens, there is an Icon that says Extract.  I clicked 
on it and directed it to a folder I created in /media/sda5/Extracted Rars.  
When it finally stopped its progress bar, I went to the Extracted Rars folder 
to see if it made the trip.  It did not.

Normally, to extract in the past, I just double-click on the file, in this 
case 7P~maz1.avi, and it opens the movie.  Nonetheless, it only extracts to a 
functioning .avi file on rare occasions.  Then I copy that file, rename it 
the name of the movie, and put it in a storage partition.  I have tried your 
recommendation several times, about 6, it does not extract.  Right-clicking 
on the file and choosing Extract does not work either.

It is probably a problem with the hardware.  This computer has been constantly 
on the blink for a couple of years.  Every day, I have to fix something.  
While doing the current work, the drop-down menu, that contained all the 
Icons that were shortcuts to much used packages disappeared.  Although I have 
been unable to find the package that contained configuration for that Menu 
Bar, I did find a way to find System Settings and put the Mac equivalent up.  
It does not have the option to hide, or make transparent, like the other menu 
bar did.

Thanks to you guys, I was able to get things working by pressing AltF2 and 
various package names and have the system working pretty well.  It is just 
one more workaround that I have to contend with.

You may not be aware, but I have a new computer on thebench.  The Power Supply 
was DOA, and it has taken me 10 weeks to get the replacement.  It came 
yesterday.  Then they sent me a unit that has an 8 pin cable that powers the 
processor that is 2 inches too short.  

It amazes me how many things can go wrong with my new computer.  I have little 
confidence that I will ever get it running.  The first processor cable was 
long enough, the replacement wasn't.  If it takes as long to get the cable 
extension as it did to replace the defective unit, I will have to keep 
putting bandaides on this computer for another 10 weeks.  Thank GOD  for you 
guys.  Thanks for any continued advice you can give me.  I really am trying.

Steven





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 12:31:36 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:31:36 -0500
Subject: How do I join two .rar folders?
In-Reply-To: <4976C84C.4030809@gatech.edu>
References: <200901180326.14722.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901210157.58950.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4976C84C.4030809@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901210731.36788.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> ls -lh
steven at Studio25:/media/sda5/CompletedDownloads$ ls -lh
total 25G
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  702M 2008-12-31 11:08 21
drwxr-xr-x 4 steven steven  4.0K 2009-01-19 00:48 7.Pounds~DvdScr~Ac3~maz
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  701M 2008-12-23 11:20 Alphabet Killer
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  1.2G 2008-12-19 15:33 Appaloosa
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  702M 2009-01-17 08:52 Behind Enemy Lines - Colombia
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  696M 2008-12-29 09:26 Bustin Down the Door
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven     0 2009-01-20 23:14 Cd1
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven     0 2009-01-20 23:14 Cd1unrar
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  801M 2009-01-17 01:45 Chronicles of Riddick
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  1.4G 2008-12-07 10:18 Clear and Present Danger
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  699M 2008-12-16 03:04 Day the Earth Stood Still
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  702M 2008-12-09 20:58 Death Race
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  992M 2008-12-27 07:02 Diamond Dogs
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  703M 2008-12-18 15:34 Eagle Eye
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  1.1G 2008-12-27 08:08 Forbidden Kingdom
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  702M 2008-12-15 04:05 Fountain
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  702M 2008-12-16 05:16 Ghost Town
drwxr-xr-x 3 steven steven  4.0K 2008-12-25 11:08 HebrewMusic
drwxr-xr-x 3 steven steven  4.0K 2008-11-25 18:46 MyDreamComputer
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  1.1G 2009-01-01 05:09 Pistol Whipped
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  703M 2008-12-17 01:03 Punisher War Zone
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  1.1G 2008-12-24 03:59 Rescue Dawn
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven 1013M 2008-12-21 00:23 Rollerball
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  1.1G 2009-01-01 03:09 Shooting Gallery
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  702M 2008-12-31 18:43 Shoot On Sight
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  1.1G 2008-10-31 01:43  Sixth Sense
drwxr-xr-x 2 steven steven  4.0K 2009-01-20 13:39 Stargate.Collection.DvDrip-aXXo
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  790M 2009-01-18 18:10 Star Wars II - Attack of the Clones
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  689M 2009-01-18 18:38 Star Wars IIII - A New Hope
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  756M 2009-01-18 18:46 Star Wars IIIIII - Return of the Jedi
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  712M 2009-01-18 18:43 Star Wars IIIII - The Empire Strikes Back
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  781M 2009-01-18 18:45 Star Wars III - Revenge of the Sith
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  761M 2009-01-18 18:46 Star Wars I - The Phantom Menace
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  701M 2008-11-13 03:12 Traitor
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  702M 2008-10-29 05:09 Wanted
-rw-r--r-- 1 steven steven  702M 2008-10-30 21:44 X-Files - Fight the Future
steven at Studio25:/media/sda5/CompletedDownloads$    

I made the font red for the entries that refer to 7Pounds.  The first makes sense.  The second and third entries, although they don't say they are 7 Pounds, 7 Pounds is the only entry that is Cd1 and Cd1rar, so the entry must refer to it.

Your patience is incredible.  I blame myself all the time, but there are so many weird thing that happen with this computer, I have to wonder if it could be something other than me.  I did have a bad memory stick, but I removed it, so I can't blame that as a part of the problem anymore.  But recently when I lost my drop-down menubar, I wasn't doing anything that could have caused it to happen.  I was not reconfiguring anything.  I was not changing settings on anything.  I was just going about the work of fixing problems on the computer.

Steven                    
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 12:41:39 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:41:39 -0500
Subject: I just lost my drop-down menubar?
Message-ID: <200901210741.39579.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

Does anyone know what the package is called that provided the ability to have 
the menubar that contains package links represented by icons as a dropdown 
when you put the cursor at the Desktop top.  Amonge configuration choices is 
to have that bar transparent as well as hide.  Using system 
settings>desktop>behavior, I was able to get a menubar that will work for me, 
however, I would like the other one back if possible.  I used the Mac choice.

Thanks to you guys, I knew to use Alt+F2 to access System Settings and get a 
workaround, but I don't know  what command might  fix the problem.  I 
remember something about dpkg configure, is that useful in this situation?

Steven



From jonorland at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 12:44:20 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:44:20 +0100
Subject: Is it possible to manually activate an eth0 connection?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901210408j1df18695o1fb9d3c9667aeacd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901141327kb024ea7t7e153838099efd96@mail.gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901150342s674efd84yc4e1b0153d6a005d@mail.gmail.com>
	<gkohub$ie7$1@ger.gmane.org> <200901160949.03324.kassube@gmx.net>
	<c638edc20901160249m37352ee5qc48230ed8bc5da31@mail.gmail.com>
	<gl34nl$o2i$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901210408j1df18695o1fb9d3c9667aeacd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901210444y38702b3m8fe8ca68a4a270b8@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/21 Bas Roufs <basroufs at gmail.com>:
> Dear Everybody
>
> Thanks for all your useful advise so far. However, I still get stuck
> in my attempts to connect my laptop to the internet. In this message,
> I summarise how recent advises from some amongst you worked out in the
> case of Kubuntu 8.10 at my laptop - a Medion 5400, 40 GB, Pentium 4/
> 2,5 Ghz processor.
>

I didn't read the whole mail, just skimming it over but to me it looks
like you don't have your DNS nameservers setup right and if you using
a static IP you need to ad them manually. The IP's of the nameserver
should be in the papers from your ISP else call them or perhaps you
can see them in your router. When you got them add them to
/etc/resolv.conf
This is mine looks:
$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Generated by NetworkManager
domain bredbandsbolaget.se
search bredbandsbolaget.se
nameserver 195.54.122.200
nameserver 195.54.122.199
nameserver 81.26.227.3
# NOTE: the libc resolver may not support more than 3 nameservers.
# The nameservers listed below may not be recognized.
nameserver 195.54.122.204

Hope it help

/ Jonas



From gkourtev at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 12:52:44 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:52:44 +0200
Subject: Lost icon for desktops
Message-ID: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>

All,

I just somehow lost the icon on the widgets bar which shows desktops and 
allows to switch between them. The desktops are there as I can change position 
of programs. Any ideas?
gk


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From Herve at lucidia.net  Wed Jan 21 13:01:12 2009
From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?B?SGVydsOpIEZhY2hl?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:01:12 +0100
Subject: Dual screen with KDE4
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901190951h1a2e673fk33c2eb27a981a6f3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4413284c0901190755s1a750068kf8d4c4ba97f1c503@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901190951h1a2e673fk33c2eb27a981a6f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4413284c0901210501h575a843etc10900ef51528048@mail.gmail.com>

I use nVidia at home with great success, but the computer in question is my
work laptop with an intel chipset:
Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller

Shame the proprietary stuff is easier to setup on an open system!
Hervé
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From Herve at lucidia.net  Wed Jan 21 13:04:04 2009
From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?B?SGVydsOpIEZhY2hl?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:04:04 +0100
Subject: re grub error 17
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W4565AB415EB19BF2D3C65FCDD30@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W4258C10682532243066DA1CDD50@phx.gbl>
	<4413284c0901190800l283d2fcfx4cdd42603dc09af5@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W4565AB415EB19BF2D3C65FCDD30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4413284c0901210504y3448cc20n5fa22b9b7b158015@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Ray,

Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal
e-mail.

I - Booting with the backup disks on

If your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on,
then my guess is that you have two grubs:
* one on the main hard drive (the one you want)
* at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't)
and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you probably
know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section (its
location depends on your BIOS).

II - Error 17

The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the
partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example,
Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and
/dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this:

$ df /boot

which gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet):
/dev/sda8             52506748   3838592  46000968   8% /

I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of
help.
Hervé
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From basroufs at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 13:58:11 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:58:11 +0100
Subject: Is it possible to manually activate an eth0 connection? - 
	Partially SOLVED!
Message-ID: <c638edc20901210558k49cec263ta67e0d519466fbab@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Everybody

Thanks for this feedback, Jonas:

> I didn't read the whole mail, just skimming it over but to me it looks
> like you don't have your DNS nameservers setup right and if you using
> a static IP you need to ad them manually. The IP's of the nameserver
> should be in the papers from your ISP else call them or perhaps you
> can see them in your router. When you got them add them to
> /etc/resolv.conf
This feedback proved to be very useful. At the desktop PC, I carried
out the test 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'. It worked out like this:

bas at Viaconsensus1:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Generated by NetworkManager
domain lokaal
search lokaal
nameserver 192.168.1.254

Via kdesudo kate I manually inserted the last three lines in the
resolv.conf file at the laptop. This proved to be sufficient to
establish the connection here. Right now, the laptop is downloading
and installing a whole bunch of Kubuntu/ Ubuntu Intrepid updates.
The question remains though, how to configure the settings in such a
way that I can smoothly connect the laptop also anywhere else - via a
ethernetmodem (eth0) or wireles (pan0).

Respectfully Yours,

Bas.







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Viaconsensus
Bas G. Roufs M.A.
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
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From art.alexion at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 15:37:36 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:37:36 -0500
Subject: Lost icon for desktops
In-Reply-To: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901211037.37596.art.alexion@gmail.com>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 07:52:44 am Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> I just somehow lost the icon on the widgets bar which shows desktops and
> allows to switch between them. The desktops are there as I can change
> position of programs. Any ideas?

The thing (used to be called applet) that you are looking for used to be 
called the Desktop Pager.  My guess is that it is called the same thing as a 
plasmoid or something.



From doc.evans at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 15:53:37 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:53:37 -0700
Subject: Lost icon for desktops
In-Reply-To: <200901211037.37596.art.alexion@gmail.com>
References: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<200901211037.37596.art.alexion@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49774501.5020306@gmail.com>

Art Alexion said the following at 01/21/2009 08:37 AM :

> 
> The thing (used to be called applet) that you are looking for used to be 
> called the Desktop Pager.  My guess is that it is called the same thing as a 
> plasmoid or something.

Yes; that would be the Pager plasmoid.

You know, all one needs to do is bring up the Add Widgets dialog and look
down the list of available widgets. That's what I did. Much quicker than
e-mailing this reflector.

  Doc

-- 
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From gkourtev at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 15:57:46 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:57:46 +0200
Subject: Lost icon for desktops
In-Reply-To: <49774501.5020306@gmail.com>
References: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<200901211037.37596.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<49774501.5020306@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901211757.47036.gkourtev@gmail.com>

The different desktops icon is not in the Add Widgets dialog.
gk


On Wednesday 21 January 2009 17:53:37 D. R. Evans wrote:
> Art Alexion said the following at 01/21/2009 08:37 AM :
> > The thing (used to be called applet) that you are looking for used to be
> > called the Desktop Pager.  My guess is that it is called the same thing
> > as a plasmoid or something.
>
> Yes; that would be the Pager plasmoid.
>
> You know, all one needs to do is bring up the Add Widgets dialog and look
> down the list of available widgets. That's what I did. Much quicker than
> e-mailing this reflector.
>
>   Doc


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From derek at pointerstop.ca  Wed Jan 21 15:57:08 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:57:08 -0400
Subject: Is it possible to manually activate an eth0 connection? -
	Partially SOLVED!
References: <c638edc20901210558k49cec263ta67e0d519466fbab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <k7tj46-5o6.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Bas Roufs wrote:

> 
> bas at Viaconsensus1:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
> # Generated by NetworkManager
> domain lokaal
> search lokaal
> nameserver 192.168.1.254
> 
> Via kdesudo kate I manually inserted the last three lines in the
> resolv.conf file at the laptop. This proved to be sufficient to
> establish the connection here. Right now, the laptop is downloading
> and installing a whole bunch of Kubuntu/ Ubuntu Intrepid updates.
> The question remains though, how to configure the settings in such a
> way that I can smoothly connect the laptop also anywhere else - via a
> ethernetmodem (eth0) or wireles (pan0).

You're right - the next time you change connections, that's going to be 
lost.  It's actually controlled by dhclient, so compare 
/etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf on the two machines.





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Wed Jan 21 16:02:46 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:02:46 -0400
Subject: connecting to a hidden WAP router
References: <4940191C.3050707@prayingforisrael.net>
	<200901202156.58515.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<44gi46-3qu.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901210011.04227.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <6itj46-5o6.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

David McGlone wrote:

> On Tuesday 20 January 2009 10:07:15 pm Derek Broughton wrote:
>> David McGlone wrote:
>> > On Tuesday 20 January 2009 10:41:40 am Joel Oliver wrote:
>> >> > So how do folks connect to routers that don't broadcast their
>> >> > essid's -- what is the point of that router option if one cannot
>> >> > connect to it?
>> >>
>> >> There's really no security benifit at all by hiding your essid, as it
>> >> can be sniffed in the air.  Just like the "MAC" address filter, which
>> >> also sounds like a good idea... Hey, I will only let my computers
>> >> connect and block all others.  It's a simple matter of sniffing and
>> >> spoofing it.
>> >
>> > This is what I do. I only let my mac addresses connect to my network.
>>
>> Not really.  You only let network interfaces _claiming_ to be your MAC
>> addresses connect to the network.  Unfortunately, every NIC is required
>> by the ethernet protocol to announce its MAC address with every packet it
>> sends, and any sniffer can find the MACs on your network - and then
>> making another NIC send that address is trivial.
> 
> Is this bad? Should I use something better?

It's not "bad" - there are advantages to checking the MAC address of 
connections, you just need to be aware that it can't actually prevent 
anybody from connecting to your system if they really want to.

Not checking the MAC addresses is like leaving your house unlocked.  Using 
just MAC addresses for security is like hiding the key under the welcome 
mat.  Using encrypted connections but not checking MAC addresses would be 
like leaving the house unlocked - but with the burglar alarm armed :-)






From art.alexion at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 16:25:36 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:25:36 -0500
Subject: Lost icon for desktops
In-Reply-To: <49774501.5020306@gmail.com>
References: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<200901211037.37596.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<49774501.5020306@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901211125.36959.art.alexion@gmail.com>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 10:53:37 am D. R. Evans wrote:
> Much quicker than
> e-mailing this reflector.

That's an unfair criticism.  That statement could be said about 90% of the 
traffic on this list.  I wonder what the point of the list would be if being 
able to solve a problem quickly was a criterion for not asking...

I thought Georgi's question was legitimate.




From art.alexion at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 16:28:54 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:28:54 -0500
Subject: Lost icon for desktops
In-Reply-To: <200901211757.47036.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<49774501.5020306@gmail.com>
	<200901211757.47036.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901211128.55078.art.alexion@gmail.com>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 10:57:46 am Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> The different desktops icon is not in the Add Widgets dialog.

Uh... yes it is.  Like Doc and I said, it is called the Pager.

C'mon man, I just got done defending you for asking your question, and it 
didn't seem you read the answers.





From multilingus at gmx.de  Wed Jan 21 16:36:10 2009
From: multilingus at gmx.de (Mario Andes)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:36:10 +0100
Subject: Login background
Message-ID: <op.un38ehw1myevw5@executor>

Hi everybody,
some weeks ago I had a female with green bikini as login background for
kubuntu 8.10. Unfortunately the system crashed and I had to install it again
and this background does not appear anymore in the list of backgrounds.

Does somebody know where I can find it?
multilingus
-- 
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Wed Jan 21 16:48:23 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:48:23 +0100
Subject: Is it possible to manually activate an eth0 connection? -
	Partially SOLVED!
In-Reply-To: <k7tj46-5o6.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <c638edc20901210558k49cec263ta67e0d519466fbab@mail.gmail.com>
	<k7tj46-5o6.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <gl7jki$s1$1@ger.gmane.org>

Derek Broughton wrote:
> Bas Roufs wrote:
> 
>> bas at Viaconsensus1:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
>> # Generated by NetworkManager
>> domain lokaal
>> search lokaal
>> nameserver 192.168.1.254
>>
>> Via kdesudo kate I manually inserted the last three lines in the
>> resolv.conf file at the laptop. This proved to be sufficient to
>> establish the connection here. Right now, the laptop is downloading
>> and installing a whole bunch of Kubuntu/ Ubuntu Intrepid updates.
>> The question remains though, how to configure the settings in such a
>> way that I can smoothly connect the laptop also anywhere else - via a
>> ethernetmodem (eth0) or wireles (pan0).
> 
> You're right - the next time you change connections, that's going to be 
> lost.  It's actually controlled by dhclient, so compare 
> /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf on the two machines.
> 
> 
> 
for eth0, simply see my last mail about how to manually set it to dhcp.

After this you do not need to care anymore for resolv.conf, since modern 
routers offer you dhcp, which in turn sets the nameservers, when you 
start is on your notebook.

And please note, this is not an ethernet "modem", it is simply an 
internal ethernet card, which will work anywhere, where you get dhcp via 
Ethernet.

In regard to pan0, I have no clue, but when you google with "bluetooth 
networking", this should be sufficient.

If you really need to work anywhere, it might be worthwhile to 
investigate a WLAN pcmcia card, if your laptop does not offer WLAN natively.

Kind regards
Eberhard




From jonorland at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 17:11:10 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:11:10 +0100
Subject: Login background
In-Reply-To: <op.un38ehw1myevw5@executor>
References: <op.un38ehw1myevw5@executor>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901210911w6e51faf8s88c05da6ee526213@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/21 Mario Andes <multilingus at gmx.de>:
> Hi everybody,
> some weeks ago I had a female with green bikini as login background for
> kubuntu 8.10. Unfortunately the system crashed and I had to install it again
> and this background does not appear anymore in the list of backgrounds.
>
> Does somebody know where I can find it?

I don't know where you can find your precious babe in green bikini so
why not a picture of your girlfriend instead of some bimbo from the
net?

/ Jonas



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 17:21:10 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:21:10 -0500
Subject: What are the firewalls present on a normal installation of hardy?
Message-ID: <200901211221.10750.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I am only getting about 70kbs of download speed.  AT&T says I should be 
getting between 384 and 768 kbs.  They say that a router slows the speed.  Of 
course they don't service Linux, but what do you suggest I say to them.  I 
haven't installed any firewall that I know of, other than any that were 
automatically installed with the OS.

Steven



From doc.evans at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 17:24:00 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:24:00 -0700
Subject: Lost icon for desktops
In-Reply-To: <200901211125.36959.art.alexion@gmail.com>
References: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>	<200901211037.37596.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<49774501.5020306@gmail.com>
	<200901211125.36959.art.alexion@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49775A30.1030403@gmail.com>

Art Alexion said the following at 01/21/2009 09:25 AM :
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 10:53:37 am D. R. Evans wrote:
>> Much quicker than
>> e-mailing this reflector.
> 
> That's an unfair criticism.  That statement could be said about 90% of the 
> traffic on this list.  I wonder what the point of the list would be if being 
> able to solve a problem quickly was a criterion for not asking...
> 
> I thought Georgi's question was legitimate.

It wasn't a criticism at all, and the question was certainly legitimate. So
was my response, which is simply a statement. It is indeed much quicker to
look in Add Widgets than to ask here.

  Doc

-- 
Web:  http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR

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From TonySivori at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 21 17:24:30 2009
From: TonySivori at yahoo.com (Tony Sivori)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:24:30 -0500
Subject: Login background
References: <op.un38ehw1myevw5@executor>
Message-ID: <pan.2009.01.21.17.24.29.956124@yahoo.com>

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:36:10 +0100, Mario Andes wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> some weeks ago I had a female with green bikini as login background for
> kubuntu 8.10. Unfortunately the system crashed and I had to install it again
> and this background does not appear anymore in the list of backgrounds.
> 
> Does somebody know where I can find it?

http://icecreamshop.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/vixens145_alexis_lopez.jpg

Close enough?

-- 
Tony Sivori
Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters. 




From multilingus at gmx.de  Wed Jan 21 17:41:36 2009
From: multilingus at gmx.de (Mario Andes)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:41:36 +0100
Subject: Login background
In-Reply-To: <pan.2009.01.21.17.24.29.956124@yahoo.com>
References: <op.un38ehw1myevw5@executor>
	<pan.2009.01.21.17.24.29.956124@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <op.un4bfm0jmyevw5@executor>

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:24:30 +0100, Tony Sivori <TonySivori at yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Tony,
thank you for the link.
The photo I had found was much better. 
(My girl friend is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen!)
It isn't important how sexy the woman is. I loved that foto because of 
the quality and composition of colours and lines.
multilingus
-- 
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/



From multilingus at gmx.de  Wed Jan 21 17:41:36 2009
From: multilingus at gmx.de (Mario Andes)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:41:36 +0100
Subject: Login background
In-Reply-To: <pan.2009.01.21.17.24.29.956124@yahoo.com>
References: <op.un38ehw1myevw5@executor>
	<pan.2009.01.21.17.24.29.956124@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <op.un4bfm0jmyevw5@executor>

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:24:30 +0100, Tony Sivori <TonySivori at yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Tony,
thank you for the link.
The photo I had found was much better. 
(My girl friend is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen!)
It isn't important how sexy the woman is. I loved that foto because of 
the quality and composition of colours and lines.
multilingus
-- 
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 17:45:23 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:45:23 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
Message-ID: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I am on a chat right now with a technician at AT&T.  They sent me to have 
tests run that require Windows or mac.  There is a plugin required for Java 
to run the tests.  I downloaded it in .bin form the other form is rpm.  I can 
download that if necessary.  Can anyone help me fast with a .bin installation 
or give advice.

STeven



From ignazio_io at yahoo.it  Wed Jan 21 17:45:44 2009
From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:45:44 +0000
Subject: What are the firewalls present on a normal installation of hardy?
In-Reply-To: <200901211221.10750.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211221.10750.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49775F48.2000603@yahoo.it>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I am only getting about 70kbs of download speed.  AT&T says I should be 
> getting between 384 and 768 kbs.  They say that a router slows the speed.  Of 
> course they don't service Linux, but what do you suggest I say to them.  I 
> haven't installed any firewall that I know of, other than any that were 
> automatically installed with the OS.
> 
> Steven
> 


As far as I can tell a router can slow the connection only if many 
computers are attached to it, sharing its bandwidth. Just one silly 
check: the speed you are seeing is 70 kbs or 70 kilobytes per second? 
DSL lines are advertised in kilobits per second, for historical and 
marketing reasons, and the ration kilobit to kilobyte is 10:1 (rule of 
thumb), so it might be that the speed you're seeing is actually the 
speed you should get. This just to make sure we're not bashing the 
provider without reason :)
HTH,
I.



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 18:00:04 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:00:04 -0500
Subject: What are the firewalls present on a normal installation of hardy?
In-Reply-To: <49775F48.2000603@yahoo.it>
References: <200901211221.10750.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49775F48.2000603@yahoo.it>
Message-ID: <200901211300.05134.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> speed you should get. This just to make sure we're not bashing the
> provider without reason :)
I did not think I was bashing, I knew that it is bits not bytes.  The range 
they have is 384 to 768, so it is within the range; but the range is double 
the minimum.  Isn't that a little extreme for variable?

Steven



From ignazio_io at yahoo.it  Wed Jan 21 18:17:48 2009
From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:17:48 +0000
Subject: What are the firewalls present on a normal installation of hardy?
In-Reply-To: <200901211300.05134.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211221.10750.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49775F48.2000603@yahoo.it>
	<200901211300.05134.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <497766CC.7060602@yahoo.it>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> speed you should get. This just to make sure we're not bashing the
>> provider without reason :)
> I did not think I was bashing, I knew that it is bits not bytes.  The range 
> they have is 384 to 768, so it is within the range; but the range is double 
> the minimum.  Isn't that a little extreme for variable?
> 

I didn't mean to say you were bashing the provider, I wanted to make 
sure it was not a problem of units of measure before saying that the 
speed is really lower than you should expect. I agree that the 
variability is huge,
I.



From d.mcglone at att.net  Wed Jan 21 18:20:39 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:20:39 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901211320.39778.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 12:45:23 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> I am on a chat right now with a technician at AT&T.  They sent me to have
> tests run that require Windows or mac.  There is a plugin required for Java
> to run the tests.  I downloaded it in .bin form the other form is rpm.  I
> can download that if necessary.  Can anyone help me fast with a .bin
> installation or give advice.

type in console:

sh <name of file>.bin
-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From d.mcglone at att.net  Wed Jan 21 18:25:57 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:25:57 -0500
Subject: What are the firewalls present on a normal installation of hardy?
In-Reply-To: <200901211221.10750.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211221.10750.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901211325.57562.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 12:21:10 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> I am only getting about 70kbs of download speed.  AT&T says I should be
> getting between 384 and 768 kbs.  They say that a router slows the speed. 
> Of course they don't service Linux, but what do you suggest I say to them. 
> I haven't installed any firewall that I know of, other than any that were
> automatically installed with the OS.

Wow! That isn't good. I get 2613 kbs with my AT&T. You might as well use dial 
up with those speeds.

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Wed Jan 21 18:24:51 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:24:51 -0400
Subject: Lost icon for desktops
References: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<200901211037.37596.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<49774501.5020306@gmail.com>
	<200901211125.36959.art.alexion@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <js5k46-nfb.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Art Alexion wrote:

> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 10:53:37 am D. R. Evans wrote:
>> Much quicker than
>> e-mailing this reflector.
> 
> That's an unfair criticism.  That statement could be said about 90% of the
> traffic on this list.  I wonder what the point of the list would be if
> being able to solve a problem quickly was a criterion for not asking...
> 
> I thought Georgi's question was legitimate.

In any case. I thought he'd lost the panel altogether - in which case 
looking at the add widgets dialog doesn't help in the slightest.






From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 18:35:25 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:35:25 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211320.39778.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211320.39778.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <200901211335.25986.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> type in console:
>
> sh <name of file>.bin
Dear David,

I did as you suggested and got the following.  Notice that it doesn't include 
the acceptance of terms as it says.  I can't get it to continue.  Can you see 
what I need to do?

steven at Studio25:~$ sh /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Binary Code License Agreement

for the JAVA SE RUNTIME ENVIRONMENT (JRE) VERSION 6 and
JAVAFX RUNTIME VERSION 1

SUN MICROSYSTEMS, INC.  ("SUN") IS WILLING TO LICENSE THE
SOFTWARE IDENTIFIED BELOW TO YOU ONLY UPON THE CONDITION
THAT YOU ACCEPT ALL OF THE TERMS CONTAINED IN THIS BINARY
CODE LICENSE AGREEMENT AND SUPPLEMENTAL LICENSE TERMS
(COLLECTIVELY "AGREEMENT").  PLEASE READ THE AGREEMENT
CAREFULLY.  BY DOWNLOADING OR INSTALLING THIS SOFTWARE, YOU
ACCEPT THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT.  INDICATE ACCEPTANCE BY
SELECTING THE "ACCEPT" BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
AGREEMENT.  IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO BE BOUND BY ALL THE
TERMS, SELECT THE "DECLINE" BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
AGREEMENT AND THE DOWNLOAD OR INSTALL PROCESS WILL NOT
CONTINUE.

1.  DEFINITIONS.  "Software" means the identified above in
binary form, any other machine readable materials
(including, but not limited to, libraries, source files,
header files, and data files), any updates or error
corrections provided by Sun, and any user manuals,
--More--

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 18:36:47 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:36:47 -0500
Subject: What are the firewalls present on a normal installation of hardy?
In-Reply-To: <497766CC.7060602@yahoo.it>
References: <200901211221.10750.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211300.05134.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<497766CC.7060602@yahoo.it>
Message-ID: <200901211336.47529.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> speed is really lower than you should expect. I agree that the
> variability is huge,

I am in that range then, right.  By the way, I was told there are 8 bits to a 
byte.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 18:38:02 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:38:02 -0500
Subject: How do I use excel?
Message-ID: <200901211338.02733.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>





From charioteer7 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 18:42:43 2009
From: charioteer7 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Bays)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:42:43 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211335.25986.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211320.39778.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<200901211335.25986.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <646a014e0901211042j1dd664bdn3c8bf25c4594f1c5@mail.gmail.com>

Steven:

Just keep hitting enter so that the 'more' utility will scroll down.
Then you should see a prompt for
agreeing with the license. Type 'Y' or 'yes' as it instructs, and the
installation should proceed.
Thus 'More' at the end is not just an English word, but a Linux utility.

FYI,you can view text files with 'more', but then you can only scroll
down. If you use the  'less' utility, then you can scroll up or down
with the up/down arrows.

Cheers,

Geoffrey

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Steven Vollom
<stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> type in console:
>>
>> sh <name of file>.bin
> Dear David,
>
> I did as you suggested and got the following.  Notice that it doesn't include
> the acceptance of terms as it says.  I can't get it to continue.  Can you see
> what I need to do?
>
> steven at Studio25:~$ sh /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
> Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Binary Code License Agreement
>
> for the JAVA SE RUNTIME ENVIRONMENT (JRE) VERSION 6 and
> JAVAFX RUNTIME VERSION 1
>
> SUN MICROSYSTEMS, INC.  ("SUN") IS WILLING TO LICENSE THE
> SOFTWARE IDENTIFIED BELOW TO YOU ONLY UPON THE CONDITION
> THAT YOU ACCEPT ALL OF THE TERMS CONTAINED IN THIS BINARY
> CODE LICENSE AGREEMENT AND SUPPLEMENTAL LICENSE TERMS
> (COLLECTIVELY "AGREEMENT").  PLEASE READ THE AGREEMENT
> CAREFULLY.  BY DOWNLOADING OR INSTALLING THIS SOFTWARE, YOU
> ACCEPT THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT.  INDICATE ACCEPTANCE BY
> SELECTING THE "ACCEPT" BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
> AGREEMENT.  IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO BE BOUND BY ALL THE
> TERMS, SELECT THE "DECLINE" BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
> AGREEMENT AND THE DOWNLOAD OR INSTALL PROCESS WILL NOT
> CONTINUE.
>
> 1.  DEFINITIONS.  "Software" means the identified above in
> binary form, any other machine readable materials
> (including, but not limited to, libraries, source files,
> header files, and data files), any updates or error
> corrections provided by Sun, and any user manuals,
> --More--
>
> Steven
>
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 18:43:49 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:43:49 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
Message-ID: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I have been watching a poker program on late night TV, 2am.  They suggest I 
can play for free with playmoney.  I downloaded the package, which is 
an .exe, but I don't know how to install it.  Can you help me.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 18:48:34 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:48:34 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <646a014e0901211042j1dd664bdn3c8bf25c4594f1c5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211335.25986.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<646a014e0901211042j1dd664bdn3c8bf25c4594f1c5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901211348.35037.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> FYI,you can view text files with 'more', but then you can only scroll
> down. If you use the  'less' utility, then you can scroll up or down
> with the up/down arrows.

I did that and it doesn't move.  The computer makes that boink sound to let 
you know you are at the end.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 18:54:32 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:54:32 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
Message-ID: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I just tried to change my ISP to Cincinnati Bell, to get cheaper and faster 
service.  They told me that I could connect free to the downtown 
free-service, because I am in live in the area.  My laptop is broken , but I 
have a router with antenna.  They said I would have to purchase their 
wireless service to connect to it.  I am currently using AT&T as an ISP.  It 
is a slow DSL service.  If I install my Dlink 108mbs router, can I connect to 
the downtown service using my internet connection service?  I am supposed to 
get the signal free, so will my connection to AT&T allow it to work?  TIA.

Steven



From charioteer7 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 18:56:48 2009
From: charioteer7 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Bays)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:56:48 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211348.35037.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211335.25986.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<646a014e0901211042j1dd664bdn3c8bf25c4594f1c5@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901211348.35037.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <646a014e0901211056y39db0c97r6144fa55206adeb@mail.gmail.com>

Try 'sudo sh.....'
You probably need to start the install command with sudo.
Just a hunch here.

Cheers,

Geoffrey

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Steven Vollom
<stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> FYI,you can view text files with 'more', but then you can only scroll
>> down. If you use the  'less' utility, then you can scroll up or down
>> with the up/down arrows.
>
> I did that and it doesn't move.  The computer makes that boink sound to let
> you know you are at the end.
>
> Steven
>
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>



From gkourtev at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 19:01:58 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:01:58 +0200
Subject: Lost icon for desktops
In-Reply-To: <200901211128.55078.art.alexion@gmail.com>
References: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<200901211757.47036.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<200901211128.55078.art.alexion@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901212101.58865.gkourtev@gmail.com>


Indeed, apologies for missing it in the list. It's there.
gk

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 18:28:54 Art Alexion wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 10:57:46 am Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> > The different desktops icon is not in the Add Widgets dialog.
>
> Uh... yes it is.  Like Doc and I said, it is called the Pager.
>
> C'mon man, I just got done defending you for asking your question, and it
> didn't seem you read the answers.


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From ender8282 at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 21 19:04:41 2009
From: ender8282 at yahoo.com (John Hubbard)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:04:41 -0700
Subject: How do I use excel?
In-Reply-To: <200901211338.02733.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211338.02733.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <497771C9.4090407@yahoo.com>

Do you need to use excel or will Open Office Calc do what you need? It 
is a spread sheet program that shares many features with Microsoft 
Excel. I believe that it can open .xls files as well.

-- 
-john

To be or not to be, that is the question
                2b || !2b
(0b10)*(0b1100010) || !(0b10)*(0b1100010)
        0b11000100 || !0b11000100
        0b11000100 || 0b00111011
               0b11111111
        255, that is the answer.





From gkourtev at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 19:05:35 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:05:35 +0200
Subject: How do I use excel?
In-Reply-To: <200901211338.02733.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211338.02733.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901212105.36335.gkourtev@gmail.com>

You may wish to check Openoffice 


On Wednesday 21 January 2009 20:38:02 Steven Vollom wrote:



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From ender8282 at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 21 19:06:48 2009
From: ender8282 at yahoo.com (John Hubbard)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:06:48 -0700
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49777248.4040306@yahoo.com>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I have been watching a poker program on late night TV, 2am.  They suggest I 
> can play for free with playmoney.  I downloaded the package, which is 
> an .exe, but I don't know how to install it.  Can you help me.
>
> Steven
>
>   
Try typing in a terminal (or from the run command dialogue)
wine \path\to\program\playmoney.exe
Write back and let us know what errors you get.


-- 
-john

To be or not to be, that is the question
                2b || !2b
(0b10)*(0b1100010) || !(0b10)*(0b1100010)
        0b11000100 || !0b11000100
        0b11000100 || 0b00111011
               0b11111111
        255, that is the answer.





From ejazzkatt at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 19:14:40 2009
From: ejazzkatt at gmail.com (Eric)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:14:40 -0500
Subject: How do I use excel?
In-Reply-To: <200901211338.02733.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211338.02733.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49777420.1040206@gmail.com>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> 

This is probably not the right place to ask that question since it's a 
Windows or Mac program. It runs under wine on linux, I think.

I think you'd do better if you used Google and asked that question. My 
guess is that there are tons of tutorials on using Excel. Why aren't you 
using OpenOffice.org?

Eric




From doc.evans at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 19:16:36 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:16:36 -0700
Subject: Lost icon for desktops
In-Reply-To: <js5k46-nfb.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>	<200901211037.37596.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<49774501.5020306@gmail.com>	<200901211125.36959.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<js5k46-nfb.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <49777494.1090909@gmail.com>

Derek Broughton said the following at 01/21/2009 11:24 AM :

> In any case. I thought he'd lost the panel altogether - in which case 
> looking at the add widgets dialog doesn't help in the slightest.
> 

True. Still, there's an Add Panel item on the same menu as Add Widgets, so
in this hypothetical and increasingly OT thread, he'd have seen what he
needed to see if he'd tried to add a widget :-)

Normal service will now be resumed.

  Doc

PS I guess I am assuming that he'd've used the right-click-on-the-desktop
method to add a widget, not the cashew thingy.

-- 
Web:  http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR

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From ed.lau at mail.ee  Wed Jan 21 19:17:03 2009
From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:17:03 +0200
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211320.39778.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211320.39778.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <497774AF.7020409@mail.ee>

>> I am on a chat right now with a technician at AT&T.  They sent me to have
>> tests run that require Windows or mac.  There is a plugin required for Java
>> to run the tests.  I downloaded it in .bin form the other form is rpm.  I
>> can download that if necessary.  Can anyone help me fast with a .bin
>> installation or give advice.
> 
> type in console:
> 
> sh <name of file>.bin


1) chmod a+x <filename>.bin
2) sudo ./<filename>.bin


"./" will execute the file, which as been mda executable by first command.



From ed.lau at mail.ee  Wed Jan 21 19:19:48 2009
From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:19:48 +0200
Subject: How do I use excel?
In-Reply-To: <497771C9.4090407@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211338.02733.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<497771C9.4090407@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49777554.8030901@mail.ee>

> Do you need to use excel or will Open Office Calc do what you need? It 
> is a spread sheet program that shares many features with Microsoft 
> Excel. I believe that it can open .xls files as well.

Not only .xls but since OpenOffice.org 3.0.0 also .xlsx (MS Excel 2007 file format) and its template 
files (.xlt and .xltx) and also a lot of other MS Excel 2007 and earlier file formats.



From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Wed Jan 21 19:32:09 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:32:09 -0500
Subject: How do I use excel?
In-Reply-To: <497771C9.4090407@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211338.02733.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<497771C9.4090407@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901211432.09769.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009, John Hubbard wrote:
> Do you need to use excel or will Open Office Calc do what you need?

OO Calc should do everything you need to do.



From ed.lau at mail.ee  Wed Jan 21 19:33:46 2009
From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:33:46 +0200
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <49777248.4040306@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49777248.4040306@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4977789A.1090304@mail.ee>

>> I have been watching a poker program on late night TV, 2am.  They suggest I 
>> can play for free with playmoney.  I downloaded the package, which is 
>> an .exe, but I don't know how to install it.  Can you help me.
> Try typing in a terminal (or from the run command dialogue)
> wine \path\to\program\playmoney.exe
> Write back and let us know what errors you get.


env WINEPREFIX="/home/steven/.wine" wine "C:\downloads\Playmoney\Playmoney.exe"

... if your downloaded filename is Playmoney.exe and username is steven.


Wine configuration command is winecfg from Linux command line, where the drive C: is ../drive_c in 
the tab "Drives". there is also the button "Autodetect", which is useful and after pressing that 
these settings can be saved by pressing "Apply" button.

that "../drive_c" is located in Linux filesystem at /home/steven/.wine/drive_c

So, you can add folders in Linux in Wine config as drive you want.



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 19:36:15 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:36:15 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <646a014e0901211042j1dd664bdn3c8bf25c4594f1c5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211320.39778.d.mcglone@att.net>	<200901211335.25986.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<646a014e0901211042j1dd664bdn3c8bf25c4594f1c5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4977792F.7000602@gatech.edu>

Geoffrey Bays wrote:
> FYI,you can view text files with 'more', but then you can only scroll
> down. If you use the  'less' utility, then you can scroll up or down
> with the up/down arrows.

I use most, which has all the functionality of less plus good
highlighting and search functionality.

Matt Flaschen




From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 19:42:09 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:42:09 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49777A91.8090608@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I just tried to change my ISP to Cincinnati Bell, to get cheaper and faster 
> service.  They told me that I could connect free to the downtown 
> free-service, because I am in live in the area.  My laptop is broken , but I 
> have a router with antenna.

Steven, this is off-topic.  However, you need a router with wireless
bridge capabilities, like
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833180035&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Network+-+Wireless+AP/Bridge-_-Encore-_-33180035
I'm sure there are cheaper ones; that's just an example.  The idea is
that the router connects to the downtown wireless network, and your
computer connects to the router by CAT-5/Ethernet cable.

> I am currently using AT&T as an ISP.  It 
> is a slow DSL service.  If I install my Dlink 108mbs router, can I connect to 
> the downtown service using my internet connection service?

I don't know if the model you have can act as a wireless bridge.  Also
note that the free wireless will not necessarily be faster than DSL.

> I am supposed to 
> get the signal free, so will my connection to AT&T allow it to work?  TIA.

Well, you can just bypass the AT&T connection.

Matt Flaschen



From d.mcglone at att.net  Wed Jan 21 19:47:34 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:47:34 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211335.25986.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211320.39778.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<200901211335.25986.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901211447.34983.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 1:35:25 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> > type in console:
> >
> > sh <name of file>.bin
>
> Dear David,
>
> I did as you suggested and got the following.  Notice that it doesn't
> include the acceptance of terms as it says.  I can't get it to continue. 
> Can you see what I need to do?
>
> steven at Studio25:~$ sh /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
> Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Binary Code License Agreement
>
> for the JAVA SE RUNTIME ENVIRONMENT (JRE) VERSION 6 and
> JAVAFX RUNTIME VERSION 1
>
> SUN MICROSYSTEMS, INC.  ("SUN") IS WILLING TO LICENSE THE
> SOFTWARE IDENTIFIED BELOW TO YOU ONLY UPON THE CONDITION
> THAT YOU ACCEPT ALL OF THE TERMS CONTAINED IN THIS BINARY
> CODE LICENSE AGREEMENT AND SUPPLEMENTAL LICENSE TERMS
> (COLLECTIVELY "AGREEMENT").  PLEASE READ THE AGREEMENT
> CAREFULLY.  BY DOWNLOADING OR INSTALLING THIS SOFTWARE, YOU
> ACCEPT THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT.  INDICATE ACCEPTANCE BY
> SELECTING THE "ACCEPT" BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
> AGREEMENT.  IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO BE BOUND BY ALL THE
> TERMS, SELECT THE "DECLINE" BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
> AGREEMENT AND THE DOWNLOAD OR INSTALL PROCESS WILL NOT
> CONTINUE.
>
> 1.  DEFINITIONS.  "Software" means the identified above in
> binary form, any other machine readable materials
> (including, but not limited to, libraries, source files,
> header files, and data files), any updates or error
> corrections provided by Sun, and any user manuals,

it worked, you need to use the down arrow key to scroll down to the bottom or 
use page down button until you get to the bottom and accept the terms and it 
will install.
-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From d.mcglone at att.net  Wed Jan 21 19:48:59 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:48:59 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <646a014e0901211056y39db0c97r6144fa55206adeb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211348.35037.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<646a014e0901211056y39db0c97r6144fa55206adeb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901211448.59776.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 1:56:48 pm Geoffrey Bays wrote:
> Try 'sudo sh.....'
> You probably need to start the install command with sudo.
> Just a hunch here.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Geoffrey
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Steven Vollom
>
> <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> FYI,you can view text files with 'more', but then you can only scroll
> >> down. If you use the  'less' utility, then you can scroll up or down
> >> with the up/down arrows.
> >
> > I did that and it doesn't move.  The computer makes that boink sound to
> > let you know you are at the end.

 Yes, this is true. I forgot to tell him to use kdesudo

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 21 19:57:01 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:57:01 +1100
Subject: re grub error 17
In-Reply-To: <4413284c0901210504y3448cc20n5fa22b9b7b158015@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU143-W4258C10682532243066DA1CDD50@phx.gbl>
	<4413284c0901190800l283d2fcfx4cdd42603dc09af5@mail.gmail.com>
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Herve,
 
I am sorry as kost of my questions on the forum go astray!!!!!when I boot from the backup disk it just continually says gub, but this was a 
clonned copy thru ghost 3 of the main xp pro??
 
do I do this $ df /boot when in K and with just my xp pro drive and linux drive?????
 
ray



Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:04:04 +0100Subject: Re: re grub error 17From: Herve at lucidia.netTo: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.comHello Ray,Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal e-mail.I - Booting with the backup disks onIf your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on, then my guess is that you have two grubs:* one on the main hard drive (the one you want)* at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't)and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you probably know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section (its location depends on your BIOS).II - Error 17The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example, Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and /dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this:$ df /bootwhich gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet):/dev/sda8             52506748   3838592  46000968   8% /I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of help.Hervé
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From ignazio_io at yahoo.it  Wed Jan 21 20:06:31 2009
From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:06:31 +0000
Subject: What are the firewalls present on a normal installation of hardy?
In-Reply-To: <200901211336.47529.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211221.10750.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
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Steven Vollom wrote:
>> speed is really lower than you should expect. I agree that the
>> variability is huge,
> 
> I am in that range then, right.  By the way, I was told there are 8 bits to a 
> byte.

Very true, I said 10:1 as a rule of thumb (including frame bits, 
kilobits being a thousand bits and kilobytes being 1024 bytes and so 
on). This link has more precise info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units

HTH,
I.



From Herve at lucidia.net  Wed Jan 21 20:16:51 2009
From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?B?SGVydsOpIEZhY2hl?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:16:51 +0100
Subject: re grub error 17
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W43C0748CA73FC84D9BD2A5CDD10@phx.gbl>
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Hi Ray,

2009/1/21 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>

>  Herve,
>
> I am sorry as kost of my questions on the forum go astray!!!!!
>
No worries :-)

>
>
> when I boot from the backup disk it just continually says gub, but this was
> a
> clonned copy thru ghost 3 of the main xp pro??
>
I s'pose ghost did not just copy the disk... I actually don't know this
program. I use dd which is not very beautiful being command line and all
that, but does exactly what's written on the tin :-)

>
>
> do I do this $ df /boot when in K and with just my xp pro drive and linux
> drive?????
>
Sorry, you'd do this from the command line (Konsole) in Kubuntu. Sorry again
for my use of command line, I actually don't know the graphical tools though
I know they exist.

To copy the disks, I'd boot from a LiveCD of Kubuntu, so none of the hard
disks are being used, then I'd make a bit-for-bit copy of my disks to the
backup; that's what dd does.

For example, when you start from the LiveCD, your main hard disk maybe
/dev/sdc and your backup disk /dev/sdb, do you'd copy like so:
$ dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb

This means copy from input 'file' (if) /dev/sdc to output 'file' (of)
/dev/sdb, and it preserves the boot record and partition table.

You can also copy partitions the same way (after checking that destination
>= source). For example:
$ dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sdb4

Good luck,
Hervé

>
>
> ray
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:04:04 +0100
> Subject: Re: re grub error 17
> From: Herve at lucidia.net
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
> Hello Ray,
>
> Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal
> e-mail.
>
> I - Booting with the backup disks on
>
> If your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on,
> then my guess is that you have two grubs:
> * one on the main hard drive (the one you want)
> * at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't)
> and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you
> probably know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section
> (its location depends on your BIOS).
>
> II - Error 17
>
> The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the
> partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example,
> Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and
> /dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this:
>
> $ df /boot
>
> which gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet):
> /dev/sda8             52506748   3838592  46000968   8% /
>
> I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of
> help.
> Hervé
>
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From basroufs at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 20:23:07 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:23:07 +0100
Subject: Is it possible to manually activate an eth0 connection? - 
	Partially SOLVED!
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Dear Derek, Eberhard and Everybody

Thx. again for your useful feedback.

>>> bas at Viaconsensus1:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
>>> # Generated by NetworkManager
>>> domain lokaal
>>> search lokaal
>>> nameserver 192.168.1.254
>>>
>>> Via kdesudo kate I manually inserted the last three lines in the
>>> resolv.conf file at the laptop. This proved to be sufficient to
>>> establish the connection here. Right now, the laptop is downloading
>>> and installing a whole bunch of Kubuntu/ Ubuntu Intrepid updates.
>>> The question remains though, how to configure the settings in such a
>>> way that I can smoothly connect the laptop also anywhere else - via a
>>> ethernetmodem (eth0) or wireles (pan0).

> You're right - the next time you change connections, that's going to be
> lost.  It's actually controlled by dhclient, so compare
> /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf on the two machines.

This sounds good. I transferred a copy of dhclient.conf from the
laptop to the desktop. Than, I compared each time several lines of the
copy file with the 'original' dhclient.conf file at the laptop. By
doing so, it became clear that the dhclient.conf files at both
machines are already exactly the same now; probably because of the
distro updating carried out at the laptop via Adept update manager, a
few hours ago.

> for eth0, simply see my last mail about how to manually set it to dhcp.
I'm checking now whether it works.

> After this you do not need to care anymore for resolv.conf, since modern
> routers offer you dhcp, which in turn sets the nameservers, when you
> start is on your notebook.
I hope you are right - I will test it anyway.

> And please note, this is not an ethernet "modem",
With 'modem' I meant in fact the ethernet router giving me access to
the internet via my ISP.

> it is simply an internal ethernet card, which will work anywhere, where you get dhcp via Ethernet.

I hope you are right ...

> In regard to pan0, I have no clue, but when you google with "bluetooth
> networking", this should be sufficient.

Does anybody else have a clue about pan0? Could that be related to the
inbuilt bluetooth functionality in my laptop?

> If you really need to work anywhere, it might be worthwhile to
> investigate a WLAN pcmcia card, if your laptop does not offer WLAN natively.

'WLAN': how can I check whether my laptop offers this? Is there any
terminal check command which can reveal it?

Respectfully yours,

Bas.



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===============



From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 21 20:35:25 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:35:25 +1100
Subject: re grub error 17
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References: <BLU143-W4258C10682532243066DA1CDD50@phx.gbl>
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Herve,
 
Cant I do this $ df /boot in the terminal window in 'K'
 
also can the $ dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb be done with k loaded as
the system is not using xp pro drive and the external usb drive these
two addresses would be dev/sda1 for xp pro and dev/sdh1 for the external
usb drive, there fore the command in the terminal window would read
$ dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdh1 ????????????
 
as I dont understand why I would load up the live cd for K??????
 
ray



Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:16:51 +0100Subject: Re: re grub error 17From: Herve at lucidia.netTo: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.comHi Ray,
2009/1/21 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>

Herve, I am sorry as kost of my questions on the forum go astray!!!!!
No worries :-) 

when I boot from the backup disk it just continually says gub, but this was a clonned copy thru ghost 3 of the main xp pro??
I s'pose ghost did not just copy the disk... I actually don't know this program. I use dd which is not very beautiful being command line and all that, but does exactly what's written on the tin :-)

 do I do this $ df /boot when in K and with just my xp pro drive and linux drive?????
Sorry, you'd do this from the command line (Konsole) in Kubuntu. Sorry again for my use of command line, I actually don't know the graphical tools though I know they exist. 
To copy the disks, I'd boot from a LiveCD of Kubuntu, so none of the hard disks are being used, then I'd make a bit-for-bit copy of my disks to the backup; that's what dd does.For example, when you start from the LiveCD, your main hard disk maybe /dev/sdc and your backup disk /dev/sdb, do you'd copy like so:$ dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdbThis means copy from input 'file' (if) /dev/sdc to output 'file' (of) /dev/sdb, and it preserves the boot record and partition table.You can also copy partitions the same way (after checking that destination >= source). For example:$ dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sdb4Good luck,Hervé

 ray

Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:04:04 +0100
Subject: Re: re grub error 17From: Herve at lucidia.netTo: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com


Hello Ray,Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal e-mail.I - Booting with the backup disks onIf your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on, then my guess is that you have two grubs:* one on the main hard drive (the one you want)* at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't)and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you probably know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section (its location depends on your BIOS).II - Error 17The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example, Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and /dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this:$ df /bootwhich gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet):/dev/sda8             52506748   3838592  46000968   8% /I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of help.Hervé

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From jonorland at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 20:43:06 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:43:06 +0100
Subject: What are the firewalls present on a normal installation of hardy?
In-Reply-To: <49775F48.2000603@yahoo.it>
References: <200901211221.10750.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
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2009/1/21 Ignazio Palmisano <ignazio_io at yahoo.it>:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>> I am only getting about 70kbs of download speed.  AT&T says I should be
>> getting between 384 and 768 kbs.  They say that a router slows the speed.  Of
>> course they don't service Linux, but what do you suggest I say to them.  I
>> haven't installed any firewall that I know of, other than any that were
>> automatically installed with the OS.
>>
>> Steven
>>
>
>
> As far as I can tell a router can slow the connection only if many
> computers are attached to it, sharing its bandwidth. Just one silly
> check: the speed you are seeing is 70 kbs or 70 kilobytes per second?
> DSL lines are advertised in kilobits per second, for historical and
> marketing reasons, and the ration kilobit to kilobyte is 10:1 (rule of
> thumb), so it might be that the speed you're seeing is actually the
> speed you should get. This just to make sure we're not bashing the
> provider without reason :)
> HTH,
> I.
>

It don't have to be many computers, it's enough with one downloading
at a high rate. For many of the cheapier routers i know of it's the
CPU that cant keep a high throughput and if you have firewall and SPI
activated it gets worse. My father has 100 Mbit/s internet and with
his old router (3com i think) he could max get 20 Mbit/s through the
router he den bought an expensive Cisco router, it's much better but
he still don't get 100 Mbit/s through the router.

I would try to test without the router and if its good then it's a bad
router or some configuration in it. Ubuntu has a firewall, UFW,
installed but as default it's disabled and i doubt it will have such
impact on the bandwidth.

/ Jonas



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 21:00:01 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:00:01 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <49777A91.8090608@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
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> Steven, this is off-topic.  

I don't see anything on the box that would indicate that it has bridge 
capabilities.  It is a D-Link High Speed 802.11G Wireless 108Mbps Router.  
AirPlusXtremeG

D-Link AirPlusXtreme G networks can transfer data up to 15X faster than 
standard 802.11B networks through the enhancement of Atheros Super G 
technology.  With its advanced firewall and security features, the DI-624 
enables users to securely share an Internet connection with wired or wireless 
computers.
> However, you need a router with wireless 
> bridge capabilities, 

Nothing I could see on the box talked about bridge capabilities.

> like 
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833180035&nm_mc=OTC-F
>roogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Network+-+Wireless+AP/Bridge-_-Encore-_-33180035

Mine is twice as fast as the one you showed.

> I'm sure there are cheaper ones; that's just an example.  The idea is that
> the router connects to the downtown wireless network, and your computer
> connects to the router by CAT-5/Ethernet cable.

My guess is that the antenna is there so that other users in the house can 
connect to the internet, and is not used as a signal receiver.  But that 
doesn't mean it can't, I suppose.  As I recall, when I had it working for my 
laptop, I had 3 different signals that I could connect to.  My laptop has the 
same kind of card as my router, 108Mbps.

> I don't know if the model you have can act as a wireless bridge.  Also
> note that the free wireless will not necessarily be faster than DSL.

I was wondering about that.  They said all I had to have was the equipment to 
receive the signal and a wireless account and I could connect, but what is it 
about having a wireless account that allows you to connect to a universal 
out-source.  The downtown service is provided by the city of Dayton, surely 
all the users don't have a wireless account with Cincinnati Bell.

I am thinking that if I have the hardware, I should be able to connect to the 
signal from the city.

My new computer has a Gigabit network internal.  Will it receive the signal 
from the city?  Do I need a PCI card with antenna to receive it?  My 
connection is the slowest DSL service now, surely the wireless connection 
from the city would be that fast, don't you think?

Do you know of a good tutorial for dummies about networking?  Never mind, I 
will google that.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 21:23:15 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:23:15 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <497774AF.7020409@mail.ee>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211320.39778.d.mcglone@att.net> <497774AF.7020409@mail.ee>
Message-ID: <200901211623.15650.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:17:03 pm Edmund Laugasson wrote:
> sudo ./
steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
chmod: cannot access `jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~$ chmod ./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin
chmod: missing operand after `./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin'
Try `chmod --help' for more information.
steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x ./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin
chmod: cannot access `./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin': No such 
file or directory
steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x ./home/steven/Desktop jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
chmod: cannot access `./home/steven/Desktop': No such file or directory
chmod: cannot access `jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
]steven at Studio25:~$ ]

Both the debian .bin and the .rpm are on my desktop.  Desktop is properly 
capitalized.  The title came from the desktop icon for the .bin.  What have I 
done wrong?

Steven









From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 21:25:54 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:25:54 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	=?iso-8859-1?q?run=09some_tests_by_the?= isp.
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> > FYI,you can view text files with 'more', but then you can only scroll
> > down. If you use the  'less' utility, then you can scroll up or down
After the Sun statement, there is no cursor.  I did not even know how to get 
out of the shell.  To get out, I just close it.

If I could enter a command, do I just enter 'more' and click enter?

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 21:31:27 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:31:27 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211447.34983.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211335.25986.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211447.34983.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <200901211631.27767.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:47:34 pm David McGlone wrote:

> it worked, you need to use the down arrow key to scroll down to the bottom
> or use page down button until you get to the bottom and accept the terms
> and it will install.

I don't think so.  When I attempt to scroll down, it makes a boink sound.  It 
is a sound that tells you you are at the end of a piece of work.  When you 
scroll up and get to the top of what you see printed, it boinks there too.  
It was suggested by another that I write more.  When at the bottom of the 
page, there is no cursor to make an entry.  In fact I can see no way to get 
out of the shell other than to close it with the X.

You are not the only one to tell me to scroll down; it just won't scroll, 
using the arrow keys or the scrollbar.  It won't move past where it is and 
you can't scroll up past what you see on the screen.  And there is no cursor 
to type a command.  I wish there was someone here to see what I am saying.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 21:39:47 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:39:47 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211448.59776.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<646a014e0901211056y39db0c97r6144fa55206adeb@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901211448.59776.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <200901211639.47512.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:48:59 pm David McGlone wrote:

>  Yes, this is true. I forgot to tell him to use kdesudo

steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
chmod: cannot access `jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~$ chmod ./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin
chmod: missing operand after `./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin'
Try `chmod --help' for more information.
steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x ./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin
chmod: cannot access `./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin': No such 
file or directory
steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x ./home/steven/Desktop jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
chmod: cannot access `./home/steven/Desktop': No such file or directory
chmod: cannot access `jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
]steven at Studio25:~$ kdesudo sh
passprompt


kdesudo chmod a+x ./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
kdesudo ./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin

I don't understand what happened here.  The last commands had the cursor at 
the far left of the konsole.  There was no steven at Studio25:~$

I am working completely in the blind.  If I did something right I wouldn't 
even know it.

Steven




From ender8282 at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 21 21:42:26 2009
From: ender8282 at yahoo.com (John Hubbard)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:42:26 -0700
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211625.54408.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<646a014e0901211042j1dd664bdn3c8bf25c4594f1c5@mail.gmail.com>	<4977792F.7000602@gatech.edu>
	<200901211625.54408.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <497796C2.7090300@yahoo.com>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>>> FYI,you can view text files with 'more', but then you can only scroll
>>> down. If you use the  'less' utility, then you can scroll up or down
>>>       
> After the Sun statement, there is no cursor.  I did not even know how to get 
> out of the shell.  To get out, I just close it.
>
> If I could enter a command, do I just enter 'more' and click enter?
>
> Steven
>
>   
Any reason you are trying to install the bin? I believe that everything 
you need can be had by doing a simple 'apt-get install sun-java6-jre'.
Some one correct me if I am wrong.

-- 
-john

To be or not to be, that is the question
                2b || !2b
(0b10)*(0b1100010) || !(0b10)*(0b1100010)
        0b11000100 || !0b11000100
        0b11000100 || 0b00111011
               0b11111111
        255, that is the answer.





From donn.ingle at gmail.com  Wed Jan 21 22:01:39 2009
From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:01:39 +0200
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211623.15650.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<497774AF.7020409@mail.ee>
	<200901211623.15650.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901220001.39611.donn.ingle@gmail.com>

On Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:23:15 Steven Vollom wrote:

cd ~/Desktop
chmod a+x jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin

> What have
> I done wrong?
You said: cd ./home/...blah
The error is the dot before the first slash.

\d
-- 
"A computer without Windows is like chocolate cake without mustard."
-- Anonymous Coward /.

Fonty Python and other dev news at:
http://otherwiseingle.blogspot.com/



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 21:51:20 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:51:20 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <646a014e0901211056y39db0c97r6144fa55206adeb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211348.35037.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<646a014e0901211056y39db0c97r6144fa55206adeb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901211651.20773.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 1:56:48 pm Geoffrey Bays wrote:
> Try 'sudo sh.....'

I just did as you said.  This is the first time I changed to root.  It scared 
me a bit, because I haven't worked in root much.  I am mostly scared because 
I do not have confidence I know the correct address for the .bin.  It is on 
my desktop, so if I enter:
chmod a+x /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin   have I typed in the 
correct address.  Also, My desktop has a capital D.

I am pausing here, because I know I can really screw things up if my command 
is not right.

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 22:01:40 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:01:40 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <200901211600.01686.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49777A91.8090608@gatech.edu>
	<200901211600.01686.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49779B44.6060503@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> Steven, this is off-topic.  
> 
> I don't see anything on the box that would indicate that it has bridge 
> capabilities.  It is a D-Link High Speed 802.11G Wireless 108Mbps Router.  
> AirPlusXtremeG

Is it a DI624 (one of those listed at
http://support.dlink.com/products/revision.asp?productId=DI-624)?
Looking at the manual for one of the models
(ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Gateway/di624/Manual/DI-624_manual_06292005.zip) it
doesn't look like it's designed to be a bridge.  It may or many not be
possible to set it up for that using new firmware.

> Mine is twice as fast as the one you showed.

That won't apply if you're connecting to the city's network, as the
XtremeG is not standardized.

> My new computer has a Gigabit network internal.  Will it receive the signal 
> from the city?

No.

> Do I need a PCI card with antenna to receive it?

You could get a PCI or USB wireless card, which means you wouldn't need
the router.

> My connection is the slowest DSL service now, surely the wireless connection 
> from the city would be that fast, don't you think?

Not sure.

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 22:03:53 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:03:53 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211639.47512.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<646a014e0901211056y39db0c97r6144fa55206adeb@mail.gmail.com>	<200901211448.59776.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<200901211639.47512.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49779BC9.7030702@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:48:59 pm David McGlone wrote:
> 
>>  Yes, this is true. I forgot to tell him to use kdesudo
> 
> steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x ./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin
> chmod: cannot access `./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin': No such 
> file or directory

It should probably be:

chmod a+x /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin

Matt Flaschen



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 22:04:48 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:04:48 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <200901211600.01686.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49777A91.8090608@gatech.edu>
	<200901211600.01686.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49779C00.5070801@sbcglobal.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> Steven, this is off-topic.  
>>     
>
> I don't see anything on the box that would indicate that it has bridge 
> capabilities.  It is a D-Link High Speed 802.11G Wireless 108Mbps Router.  
> AirPlusXtremeG
>
> D-Link AirPlusXtreme G networks can transfer data up to 15X faster than 
> standard 802.11B networks through the enhancement of Atheros Super G 
> technology.  With its advanced firewall and security features, the DI-624 
> enables users to securely share an Internet connection with wired or wireless 
> computers.
>   
>> However, you need a router with wireless 
>> bridge capabilities, 
>>     
>
> Nothing I could see on the box talked about bridge capabilities.
>
>   
>> like 
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833180035&nm_mc=OTC-F
>> roogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Network+-+Wireless+AP/Bridge-_-Encore-_-33180035
>>     
>
> Mine is twice as fast as the one you showed.
>
>   
>> I'm sure there are cheaper ones; that's just an example.  The idea is that
>> the router connects to the downtown wireless network, and your computer
>> connects to the router by CAT-5/Ethernet cable.
>>     
>
> My guess is that the antenna is there so that other users in the house can 
> connect to the internet, and is not used as a signal receiver.  But that 
> doesn't mean it can't, I suppose.  As I recall, when I had it working for my 
> laptop, I had 3 different signals that I could connect to.  My laptop has the 
> same kind of card as my router, 108Mbps.
>
>   
>> I don't know if the model you have can act as a wireless bridge.  Also
>> note that the free wireless will not necessarily be faster than DSL.
>>     
>
> I was wondering about that.  They said all I had to have was the equipment to 
> receive the signal and a wireless account and I could connect, but what is it 
> about having a wireless account that allows you to connect to a universal 
> out-source.  The downtown service is provided by the city of Dayton, surely 
> all the users don't have a wireless account with Cincinnati Bell.
>
> I am thinking that if I have the hardware, I should be able to connect to the 
> signal from the city.
>
> My new computer has a Gigabit network internal.  Will it receive the signal 
> from the city?  Do I need a PCI card with antenna to receive it?  My 
> connection is the slowest DSL service now, surely the wireless connection 
> from the city would be that fast, don't you think?
>
> Do you know of a good tutorial for dummies about networking?  Never mind, I 
> will google that.
>
> Steven
>
>   
Why don't you call D-link support and ask them about the bridge 
connection, I'm sure they will help you, I have called a few router 
manufs. and they always help me, I've never talk to Dlink tho.



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 22:07:25 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:07:25 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211631.27767.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211335.25986.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211447.34983.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<200901211631.27767.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49779C9D.70805@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:47:34 pm David McGlone wrote:
> 
>> it worked, you need to use the down arrow key to scroll down to the bottom
>> or use page down button until you get to the bottom and accept the terms
>> and it will install.
> 
> I don't think so.  When I attempt to scroll down, it makes a boink sound.

If you are using "more", I believe you need to scroll down by pressing
enter, not the down arrow (I know this is unintuitive).  Any character
but enter will result in the sound (system bell).  When you get to the
end, pressing enter will exit more, and then presumably you will be
prompted to agree to the EULA.

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 22:13:08 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:13:08 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <4977789A.1090304@mail.ee>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49777248.4040306@yahoo.com> <4977789A.1090304@mail.ee>
Message-ID: <200901211713.09033.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:33:46 pm Edmund Laugasson wrote:
> env WINEPREFIX="/home/steven/.wine" wine
> "C:\downloads\Playmoney\Playmoney.exe"

steven at Studio25:~$ env WINEPREFIX="\home\steven\.wine" 
wine "C\downloads\FullTiltSetup\FullTiltSetup.exe
>

The cursor ended where the little green arrow is.  Is that correct.  And if it 
is, what do I do now?  That did not install the FullTiltSetup.exe, did it?

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 22:19:33 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:19:33 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <49777248.4040306@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49777248.4040306@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901211719.33756.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:06:48 pm John Hubbard wrote:

> Try typing in a terminal (or from the run command dialogue)
> wine \path\to\program\playmoney.exe

steven at Studio25:~$ wine \path\to\program\playmoney.exe
err:module:import_dll Library TDI.SYS (which is needed by L"C:
\\PROG~FBU\\SPEE~4WL\\sbbotdi.sys") not found
err:winedevice:ServiceMain driver L"sbbotdi" failed to load
wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\pathtoprogramplaymoney.exe": 
Module not found
steven at Studio25:~$

This is way over my head.

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 22:21:07 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:21:07 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <200901211713.09033.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49777248.4040306@yahoo.com>
	<4977789A.1090304@mail.ee>
	<200901211713.09033.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49779FD3.3090504@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:33:46 pm Edmund Laugasson wrote:
>> env WINEPREFIX="/home/steven/.wine" wine
>> "C:\downloads\Playmoney\Playmoney.exe"
> 
> steven at Studio25:~$ env WINEPREFIX="\home\steven\.wine" 
> wine "C\downloads\FullTiltSetup\FullTiltSetup.exe
> 
> The cursor ended where the little green arrow is.  Is that correct.  And if it 
> is, what do I do now?  That did not install the FullTiltSetup.exe, did it?

Try:

cd /home/steven/.wine/drive_c/
cd downloads
cd FullTiltSetup
wine ./FullTiltSetup.exe

Post the output.

Matt Flaschen



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Wed Jan 21 22:21:32 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:21:32 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211623.15650.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<497774AF.7020409@mail.ee>
	<200901211623.15650.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901211721.32228.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:17:03 pm Edmund Laugasson wrote:
>> sudo ./
>
>steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
>chmod: cannot access `jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
>steven at Studio25:~$ chmod ./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin
                          ^
Every instance you are showing of the path here, is broken by the anchoring  
period in front of the path.  So you are effectively forcing it to look 
for /home/steven/home/steven/Desktop etc etc.

>chmod: missing operand after `./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin'
>Try `chmod --help' for more information.
>steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x ./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin
>chmod: cannot access `./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin': No
> such file or directory
>steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x ./home/steven/Desktop jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
>chmod: cannot access `./home/steven/Desktop': No such file or directory
>chmod: cannot access `jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
>]steven at Studio25:~$ ]
>
>Both the debian .bin and the .rpm are on my desktop.  Desktop is properly
>capitalized.  The title came from the desktop icon for the .bin.  What have
> I done wrong?

See above.  The period in front of the path anchors it to the present 'pwd' 
point for its starting point to search for the file.  And of course it fails, 
the file isn't there, and likely the rest of that extended path does not 
exist either.

And, the chmod expects the argument representing what it is to do to the files 
attributes between it's invocation name, and the file list it is to work on.
You did that correctly in the repeats above, but the first period in the path 
broke it.

man chmod

is your friend
>Steven

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men
have mediocrity thrust upon them.
		-- Joseph Heller, "Catch-22"



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 22:21:46 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:21:46 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <200901211719.33756.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49777248.4040306@yahoo.com>
	<200901211719.33756.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49779FFA.5040806@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:06:48 pm John Hubbard wrote:
> 
>> Try typing in a terminal (or from the run command dialogue)
>> wine \path\to\program\playmoney.exe
> 
> steven at Studio25:~$ wine \path\to\program\playmoney.exe

That path was only an example.  You need to substitute the actual path
of the program.

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 22:23:20 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:23:20 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <49779C9D.70805@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211335.25986.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211447.34983.d.mcglone@att.net>	<200901211631.27767.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49779C9D.70805@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <4977A058.1000200@gatech.edu>

Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:47:34 pm David McGlone wrote:
>>
>>> it worked, you need to use the down arrow key to scroll down to the bottom
>>> or use page down button until you get to the bottom and accept the terms
>>> and it will install.
>> I don't think so.  When I attempt to scroll down, it makes a boink sound.
> 
> If you are using "more", I believe you need to scroll down by pressing
> enter, not the down arrow (I know this is unintuitive).

Space bar also works, and scrolls a page at a time (enter scrolls a line
at a time).

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 21 22:33:07 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:33:07 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211447.34983.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211335.25986.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211447.34983.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <200901211733.07203.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:47:34 pm David McGlone wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 1:35:25 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> > > type in console:
> > >
> > > sh <name of file>.bin
> >
> > Dear David,
> >
> > I did as you suggested and got the following.  Notice that it doesn't
> > include the acceptance of terms as it says.  I can't get it to continue.
> > Can you see what I need to do?
> >
> > steven at Studio25:~$ sh /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
> > Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Binary Code License Agreement
> >
> > for the JAVA SE RUNTIME ENVIRONMENT (JRE) VERSION 6 and
> > JAVAFX RUNTIME VERSION 1
> >
> > SUN MICROSYSTEMS, INC.  ("SUN") IS WILLING TO LICENSE THE
> > SOFTWARE IDENTIFIED BELOW TO YOU ONLY UPON THE CONDITION
> > THAT YOU ACCEPT ALL OF THE TERMS CONTAINED IN THIS BINARY
> > CODE LICENSE AGREEMENT AND SUPPLEMENTAL LICENSE TERMS
> > (COLLECTIVELY "AGREEMENT").  PLEASE READ THE AGREEMENT
> > CAREFULLY.  BY DOWNLOADING OR INSTALLING THIS SOFTWARE, YOU
> > ACCEPT THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT.  INDICATE ACCEPTANCE BY
> > SELECTING THE "ACCEPT" BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
> > AGREEMENT.  IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO BE BOUND BY ALL THE
> > TERMS, SELECT THE "DECLINE" BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
> > AGREEMENT AND THE DOWNLOAD OR INSTALL PROCESS WILL NOT
> > CONTINUE.
> >
> > 1.  DEFINITIONS.  "Software" means the identified above in
> > binary form, any other machine readable materials
> > (including, but not limited to, libraries, source files,
> > header files, and data files), any updates or error
> > corrections provided by Sun, and any user manuals,
>
> it worked, you need to use the down arrow key to scroll down to the bottom
> or use page down button until you get to the bottom and accept the terms
> and it will install.
> --
> David M.
> http://www.dmcentral.net

I am getting so frustrated.  It WILL NOT scroll down.  It WILL NOT scroll up 
past the existing print.  I don't know how to make it do that.  When it stops 
it makes a BOINK sound.  It will go no further.  All you see is all I am able 
to see.  Someone said something about adding a more or less command, I think; 
I haven't done that either , because I am not sure how.  I need to know what 
directory I do that from, and do I type in just 'more' or are there some '-' 
signs and 'letters'?  

Because I can not make happen what I am told to make happen, I have gotten so 
frustrated and confused that I almost have to start over at square one, and 
this time with baby food.  Additionally, the traditional little upright 
rectangle of white that represents the cursor is missing at the bottom of the 
document.  How do you get out of the document and back to a command position?

If I scroll up, I cannot get past what you can see that I have sent.  If I 
scroll down, I cannot get past what you see of what I sent you.  There is no 
command line cursor.  How do I get anything different on the screen, without 
just turning the shell off and reopening it?  

I am going to have to shut down for a bit; I am getting angina from the 
stress.  I have to lay down for a bit.

Steven



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Wed Jan 21 22:43:37 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:43:37 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211651.20773.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<646a014e0901211056y39db0c97r6144fa55206adeb@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901211651.20773.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901211743.37269.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>On Wednesday 21 January 2009 1:56:48 pm Geoffrey Bays wrote:
>> Try 'sudo sh.....'
>
>I just did as you said.  This is the first time I changed to root.  It
> scared me a bit, because I haven't worked in root much.  I am mostly scared
> because I do not have confidence I know the correct address for the .bin. 
> It is on my desktop, so if I enter:
>chmod a+x /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin   have I typed in the
>correct address.  Also, My desktop has a capital D.
>
>I am pausing here, because I know I can really screw things up if my command
>is not right.

And that looks correct from this distance, Steven.

>Steven



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Congratulations are in order for Tom Reid.

He says he just found out he is the winner of the 2021 Psychic of the
Year award.



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Wed Jan 21 22:45:36 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:45:36 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed
	=?iso-8859-1?q?to=09run_some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <49779C9D.70805@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211631.27767.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49779C9D.70805@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901211745.36895.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>Steven Vollom wrote:
>> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:47:34 pm David McGlone wrote:
>>> it worked, you need to use the down arrow key to scroll down to the
>>> bottom or use page down button until you get to the bottom and accept the
>>> terms and it will install.
>>
>> I don't think so.  When I attempt to scroll down, it makes a boink sound.
>
>If you are using "more", I believe you need to scroll down by pressing
>enter, not the down arrow (I know this is unintuitive).  Any character
>but enter will result in the sound (system bell).  When you get to the
>end, pressing enter will exit more, and then presumably you will be
>prompted to agree to the EULA.
>
And TBT Matt, one of the reasons I haven't used 'more' in years, simply 
because 'less' is more, with lots more...

>Matt Flaschen



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Congratulations are in order for Tom Reid.

He says he just found out he is the winner of the 2021 Psychic of the
Year award.



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 22:58:37 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:58:37 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211745.36895.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211631.27767.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49779C9D.70805@gatech.edu>
	<200901211745.36895.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4977A89D.7040509@gatech.edu>

Gene Heskett wrote:
> And TBT Matt, one of the reasons I haven't used 'more' in years, simply 
> because 'less' is more, with lots more...

But most (http://www.jedsoft.org/most/) is best, and apt-gettable.

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 21 22:36:20 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:36:20 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211733.07203.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211335.25986.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211447.34983.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<200901211733.07203.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4977A364.7010508@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I am getting so frustrated.  It WILL NOT scroll down.  It WILL NOT scroll up 
> past the existing print.  I don't know how to make it do that.  When it stops 
> it makes a BOINK sound.  It will go no further.  All you see is all I am able 
> to see.  Someone said something about adding a more or less command, I think; 
> I haven't done that either , because I am not sure how.

You don't need to type more or less.  Try pressing enter or spacebar to
scroll.

Matt Flaschen



From ender8282 at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 21 23:41:28 2009
From: ender8282 at yahoo.com (John Hubbard)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:41:28 -0700
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <200901211719.33756.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49777248.4040306@yahoo.com>
	<200901211719.33756.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4977B2A8.2070101@yahoo.com>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:06:48 pm John Hubbard wrote:
>
>   
>> Try typing in a terminal (or from the run command dialogue)
>> wine \path\to\program\playmoney.exe
>>     
>
> steven at Studio25:~$ wine \path\to\program\playmoney.exe
> err:module:import_dll Library TDI.SYS (which is needed by L"C:
> \\PROG~FBU\\SPEE~4WL\\sbbotdi.sys") not found
> err:winedevice:ServiceMain driver L"sbbotdi" failed to load
> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\pathtoprogramplaymoney.exe": 
> Module not found
> steven at Studio25:~$
>
> This is way over my head.
>
> Steven
>
>   
Sorry to jump over your head. I made the assumption that the program 
that you wanted to run was called playmoney.exe. From one of the other 
posts it looks like that was wrong. So let me try to walk you through 
this. And as a warning I am not trying to seem condescending I am just 
tying to make this really simple. If it is too simple let me know what 
is obvious and I will be less verbose. I will prefix all terminal 
commands with '>' don't type the > just type everything after it.
First do you know where you have saved the program that you want to run?
If you downloaded it with firefox I would expect it to be in the 
directory /home/seven/Desktop. (It would appear on your desktop.) If not 
we will have to find it. First open a terminal. We will start looking 
using the command list. Type
 >ls
This should give you a list of directories and files in your home 
directory. If you see the program there you are done. Otherwise start 
working though the directories until you find it. To change into another 
directory say Desktop type
 >cd Desktop
Then use 'ls' to check that directory. If you don't see it and the 
directory has no sub directories type
 >cd ..
This will move you back up to the parent directory. When you have 
finally found it type
 >pwd
to show you what directory you are in.
OK now that we have found it we need to run it. Lets assume the file is 
called foo.exe (replace with your actual file name). There are a couple 
of ways to do that. If you have changed into the directory of the file 
with cd you can just type
 >wine foo.exe
But if you aren't in the file you need to type the full path to the 
file. This path is the same as the output from the pwd (print working 
directory) command. Assume that pwd returned "/home/steven/Desktop"
you could type either
 >wine /home/steven/Desktop/foo.exe
or
 >wine ~/Desktop/foo.exe
the ~/ tells it to use YOUR home directory.

The shell is pretty smart but it isn't a genius. The program wine is in 
your path. Meaning that the shell knows to look in /usr/bin to find the 
program wine. If you ever want to know where your shell will look for 
programs type
 >echo $PATH
Your are actually executing the program wine and it is taking as an 
argument the .exe file that you want run.

For fun sometime try wondering around your computer with the 'cd' 
command. See what files are where with the 'ls' command. One of my 
favorite things about how kubuntu comes set up is the auto-complete 
feature. For example if you are in your home directory and you type
 >cd Des[press the tab key]
the shell will try to complete the command for you and you will be left 
with a screen that shows
 >cd Desktop
This also works with wine. If you have found the .exe you can type
 >wine foo[press the tab key]
and you will get
 >wine foo.exe
Play around with auto compete as it will let you type long file names 
much faster. Sometimes hit the tab key twice and it will give you a list 
of possible completions. This work for both the argument (foo.exe) and 
the command (wine).

Hope this helps and let me know if something is unclear or if you need 
more help.

-- 
-john

To be or not to be, that is the question
                2b || !2b
(0b10)*(0b1100010) || !(0b10)*(0b1100010)
        0b11000100 || !0b11000100
        0b11000100 || 0b00111011
               0b11111111
        255, that is the answer.





From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Wed Jan 21 22:41:40 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:41:40 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211639.47512.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211448.59776.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<200901211639.47512.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901211741.40542.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:48:59 pm David McGlone wrote:
>>  Yes, this is true. I forgot to tell him to use kdesudo
>
>steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
>chmod: cannot access `jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
>steven at Studio25:~$ chmod ./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin
>chmod: missing operand after `./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin'
>Try `chmod --help' for more information.
>steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x ./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin
>chmod: cannot access `./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin': No
> such file or directory
>steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x ./home/steven/Desktop jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
>chmod: cannot access `./home/steven/Desktop': No such file or directory
>chmod: cannot access `jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
>]steven at Studio25:~$ kdesudo sh
>passprompt
>
>
>kdesudo chmod a+x ./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
>kdesudo ./home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
>
>I don't understand what happened here.  The last commands had the cursor at
>the far left of the konsole.  There was no steven at Studio25:~$

Was it asking for your password? kdesudo should have been doing that before it 
allowed the rest of the command to run with root privileges.  I believe it 
expects to get your user passwd to do that.

As far as the no steven etc above, Yes there is, that is the shell prompt 
trying to tell you "who" you are and "where" you are in terms of the machines 
name.   From a shell on this box:

[root at coyote File:Pm5544-768.png_files]#

It is telling me that I am root, that I'm logged into a machine named coyote, 
and that the name of the directory I am currently cd'd to is 
File:Pm5544-768.png_files  Yes, that is the name of that directory.

Conversely, I am logged into another of my machines, one I call goat because 
it is the old, slow, sacrificial animal I try other distro's on, currently 
with Kubuntu 8.04 LTS on it, and that prompt shows:

gene at goat:~$

which tells me I am logged in as gene, on a machine named goat, and the ~ says 
I am currently in 'gene's home directory.  If I cd someplace else:

gene at goat:~$ cd /etc
gene at goat:/etc$

The prompt changes accordingly.

Hopefully this is beginning to make sense?

>I am working completely in the blind.  If I did something right I wouldn't
>even know it.
>
>Steven



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Bounders get bound when they are caught bounding.
		-- Ralph Lewin



From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 21 23:59:26 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:59:26 +1100
Subject: re grub error 17
In-Reply-To: <4413284c0901211216h67169524w44a34764661c234b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU143-W4258C10682532243066DA1CDD50@phx.gbl>
	<4413284c0901190800l283d2fcfx4cdd42603dc09af5@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W4565AB415EB19BF2D3C65FCDD30@phx.gbl>
	<4413284c0901210504y3448cc20n5fa22b9b7b158015@mail.gmail.com>
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Herve I am in K,

I booted up with the k live cd, and once up then turned on the external usb disk drive
and did a $df -h  and a $df /boot see below
**********************************************************************
 rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df -h
Filesystem            Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1              18G  7.6G  9.0G  46% /
varrun                474M  160K  474M   1% /var/run
varlock               474M     0  474M   0% /var/lock
udev                  474M   88K  474M   1% /dev
devshm                474M     0  474M   0% /dev/shm
lrm                   474M   38M  437M   8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile
/dev/sdb2              19G  6.2G   13G  34% /home
/dev/sda1              75G   39G   36G  52% /media/BKUP MAN
/dev/sdh1              75G   37G   38G  50% /media/BKUP MAN-1
rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df /boot
Filesystem           1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1             1 rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df -h
Filesystem            Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1              18G  7.6G  9.0G  46% /
varrun                474M  160K  474M   1% /var/run
varlock               474M     0  474M   0% /var/lock
udev                  474M   88K  474M   1% /dev
devshm                474M     0  474M   0% /dev/shm
lrm                   474M   38M  437M   8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile
/dev/sdb2              19G  6.2G   13G  34% /home
/dev/sda1              75G   39G   36G  52% /media/BKUP MAN
/dev/sdh1              75G   37G   38G  50% /media/BKUP MAN-1
rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df /boot
Filesystem           1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1             18034492   7909904   9397488  46% /
rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$
8034492   7909904   9397488  46% /
rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$
*************************************************************************************

so as you see the main xp pro is sda1 and the external usb is sdh1 and
only have one boot on sdb1?????
so await your advise

ray



Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:16:51 +0100
Subject: Re: re grub error 17
From: Herve at lucidia.net
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com

Hi Ray,

2009/1/21 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>






Herve,

 

I am sorry as kost of my questions on the forum go astray!!!!!No worries :-) 



when I boot from the backup disk it just continually says gub, but this was a 

clonned copy thru ghost 3 of the main xp pro??I s'pose ghost did not just copy the disk... I actually don't know this program. I use dd which is not very beautiful being command line and all that, but does exactly what's written on the tin :-)



 

do I do this $ df /boot when in K and with just my xp pro drive and linux drive?????Sorry, you'd do this from the command line (Konsole) in Kubuntu. Sorry again for my use of command line, I actually don't know the graphical tools though I know they exist.

 To copy the disks, I'd boot from a LiveCD of Kubuntu, so none of the hard disks are being used, then I'd make a bit-for-bit copy of my disks to the backup; that's what dd does.

For example, when you start from the LiveCD, your main hard disk maybe /dev/sdc and your backup disk /dev/sdb, do you'd copy like so:

$ dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb

This means copy from input 'file' (if) /dev/sdc to output 'file' (of) /dev/sdb, and it preserves the boot record and partition table.

You can also copy partitions the same way (after checking that destination >= source). For example:

$ dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sdb4

Good luck,
Hervé


 

ray





Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:04:04 +0100
Subject: Re: re grub error 17
From: Herve at lucidia.net
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com


Hello Ray,

Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal e-mail.

I - Booting with the backup disks on

If your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on, then my guess is that you have two grubs:

* one on the main hard drive (the one you want)
* at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't)
and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you probably know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section (its location depends on your BIOS).


II - Error 17

The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example, Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and /dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this:


$ df /boot

which gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet):
/dev/sda8             52506748   3838592  46000968   8% /

I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of help.

Hervé


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From johndecarlo at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 00:01:41 2009
From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:01:41 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <3dde113c0901211601v383c8064h4515245a97502a52@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Steven Vollom
<stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> I have been watching a poker program on late night TV, 2am.  They suggest I
> can play for free with playmoney.  I downloaded the package, which is
> an .exe, but I don't know how to install it.  Can you help me.
>

You don't need the command line, if you find that confusing.

Click on "FullTiltPoker.exe"  - if "Wine" is installed, it will invoke it
and install it for you.  Then it should show up in your menu, under Wine.

Or, to be safe, go into the installer and search on "wine" and install it,
if not installed.


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From wayward4now at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 00:47:51 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:47:51 -0500
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
In-Reply-To: <20090116153001.4cbb342c.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
References: <20090112164929.69a652c3.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
	<20090112201741.6b43d7db.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
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Message-ID: <1232585271.20058.160.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:30 +0000, James Tappin wrote:

> [FWIW on Hardy a combination of Ctrl-Tab & Alt-Tab can get you to a
> terminal window to do a "killall soffice", on Intrepid I had to do
> Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get to the Console to do it].

I must have been asleep at the switch, I didn't know that! Thanks!! Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
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From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 22 00:55:03 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:55:03 -0400
Subject: Is it possible to manually activate an eth0 connection? -
	Partially SOLVED!
References: <c638edc20901210558k49cec263ta67e0d519466fbab@mail.gmail.com>
	<k7tj46-5o6.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <gl7jki$s1$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901211223r40830290r45b60ea326903953@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8osk46-h0i.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Bas Roufs wrote:

>> You're right - the next time you change connections, that's going to be
>> lost.  It's actually controlled by dhclient, so compare
>> /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf on the two machines.
> 
> This sounds good. I transferred a copy of dhclient.conf from the
> laptop to the desktop. Than, I compared each time several lines of the
> copy file with the 'original' dhclient.conf file at the laptop. By
> doing so, it became clear that the dhclient.conf files at both
> machines are already exactly the same now; 

That sounds like the hard way.  I hope you know how to use "diff" or, even 
better, "kompare" (which, unfortunately, for Linus-only-knows what reason, 
doesn't work in KDE 4.1 unless you're root).





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 22 00:56:35 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:56:35 -0400
Subject: Is it possible to manually activate an eth0 connection? -
	Partially SOLVED!
References: <c638edc20901210558k49cec263ta67e0d519466fbab@mail.gmail.com>
	<k7tj46-5o6.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <gl7jki$s1$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901211223r40830290r45b60ea326903953@mail.gmail.com>
	<4977AAE6.4010500@neuroweave.nl>
Message-ID: <3rsk46-h0i.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Joep L. Blom wrote:


> Bas,
> As you have trouble to obtain the nameservers (DNS) simple command can
> be used in the resolv.conf file in /etc.
> My /etc/resolv.conf file (on my firewall) is :
> _________________________
> nameserver 192.168.100.1
> search arnhem.chello.nl
> nameserver 62.179.104.196
> nameserver 212.142.28.68
> 
> The first is my local nameserver (not using bind but a special version
> of dnsmasque) and the important command is search name of the provider.
> Im my case even although chello is replaced by upc it still works.
> The other ones are nameservers with other providers but are actually
> redundant.
> If one of my systems sends a request it is received by my local
> nameserver and handed down to the external nameserver with my provlder.
> In your case it would be something like "search telfort.nl" (without the
> quotes).
> You actually can use my resolv.conf ( with the exeption of the local
> nameserver address) but the upc nameservers are not in the domain of
> your (internet) ip-address.

Except that since his says it was written by NetworkManager, we already know 
it will be overwritten - as soon as he changes connections - if he just 
copies another one.





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 22 01:28:00 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:28 -0400
Subject: Lost icon for desktops
References: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<200901211037.37596.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<49774501.5020306@gmail.com>
	<200901211125.36959.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<js5k46-nfb.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <49777494.1090909@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0muk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

D. R. Evans wrote:

> Derek Broughton said the following at 01/21/2009 11:24 AM :
> 
>> In any case. I thought he'd lost the panel altogether - in which case
>> looking at the add widgets dialog doesn't help in the slightest.
>> 
> 
> True. Still, there's an Add Panel item on the same menu as Add Widgets, so
> in this hypothetical and increasingly OT thread, he'd have seen what he
> needed to see if he'd tried to add a widget :-)

Yeah, but it adds a _blank_ panel.  I've lost my panel numerous times, and 
find the only thing to do is ctrl-alt-backspace, to kill X, and log in again.  
It's way simpler than trying to rebuild a panel.





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 22 01:25:41 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:25:41 -0400
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <lhuk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Steven Vollom wrote:

> I just tried to change my ISP to Cincinnati Bell, to get cheaper and
> faster
> service.  They told me that I could connect free to the downtown
> free-service, because I am in live in the area.  My laptop is broken , but
> I
> have a router with antenna.  They said I would have to purchase their
> wireless service to connect to it. 

What part of "purchase" is "free"?   

Sounds like a scam to me.





From doc.evans at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 02:41:22 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:41:22 -0700
Subject: Lost icon for desktops
In-Reply-To: <0muk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>	<200901211037.37596.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<49774501.5020306@gmail.com>	<200901211125.36959.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<js5k46-nfb.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<49777494.1090909@gmail.com> <0muk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <4977DCD2.7070509@gmail.com>

Derek Broughton said the following at 01/21/2009 06:28 PM :

> 
> Yeah, but it adds a _blank_ panel.  I've lost my panel numerous times, and 
> find the only thing to do is ctrl-alt-backspace, to kill X, and log in again.  
> It's way simpler than trying to rebuild a panel.

Oh, right, I see now what you were saying. Right, in that case an X restart
is definitely the way to go. Communication is a wonderful thing.

I haven't been counting, but I think I have had to restart X at least half
a dozen times in intrepid. That's half a down times more than I had to
restart it in the prior 18 months or so :-( Something's definitely
regressed a bit in intrepid.

  Doc

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From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Thu Jan 22 02:55:26 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:55:26 -0600
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0901211601v383c8064h4515245a97502a52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<3dde113c0901211601v383c8064h4515245a97502a52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4977E01E.5080406@swbell.net>

John DeCarlo wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Steven Vollom 
> <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net <mailto:stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>
>     I have been watching a poker program on late night TV, 2am.  They
>     suggest I
>     can play for free with playmoney.  I downloaded the package, which is
>     an .exe, but I don't know how to install it.  Can you help me.
>
>
> You don't need the command line, if you find that confusing.
>
> Click on "FullTiltPoker.exe"  - if "Wine" is installed, it will invoke 
> it and install it for you.  Then it should show up in your menu, under 
> Wine.
>
> Or, to be safe, go into the installer and search on "wine" and install 
> it, if not installed. 
>
>
> -- 
> John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own
> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500&ref=mf 
> <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500&ref=mf>
Yes.

In my experience with Windows programs if it is properly installed in 
WINE it will put an icon on your desktop.

Be aware that not all Windows programs will run in WINE [ winehq,org ]. 
I've had some pretty good luck but................

-- 
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 03:08:42 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:08:42 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp. RESOLVED
In-Reply-To: <497796C2.7090300@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211625.54408.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<497796C2.7090300@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901212208.43009.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 4:42:26 pm John Hubbard wrote:  The Solution.

Every once in a while someone needs to take it on the chin.  In my case more 
than others.  I am so embarrassed to have wasted the Lists' time.  And thanks 
John for the easy resolution.  But that is not all, Sun Java 6 jre is already 
installed, and I can't for the life of me understand why I was told I needed 
to install it.

I have gotten to be like that little dog in the rear window of the car, my 
head bobbing up and down with every little bump.  Nonetheless, it is 
inexcusable to waste the precious time of so many people.  I am so very 
sorry.  I still have a dozen responses on this issue, and it seems it was 
never a problem in the first place.  Worst of all, the pressure of not being 
able to perform on an instruction so overwhelemed me that I almost had a 
heart attack.  What a fool I have been.  Not to worry though, I got some 
sleep and I feel just fine.  I won't blame anyone who doesn't want to help me  
in the future.  I surely don't deserve it.  

As always, I am deeply grateful for the help I have received in the past, and 
if you continue to help me, I will try to be more thoughtful and careful in 
the future.  Additionally, I will review all the considerable work that I 
have not yet read, and continue to learn the process of being able to install 
a .bin from terminal so that all this work is not wasted completely.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 03:33:20 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:33:20 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901220001.39611.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211623.15650.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220001.39611.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901212233.21279.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:01:39 pm Donn wrote:

> cd ~/Desktop
> chmod a+x jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin

The result:

steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$ chmod a+x jre-6u11-linux-586.bin
chmod: cannot access `jre-6u11-linux-586.bin': No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$

Dear Donn,

Would this be the result I should get, if I already have the package installed.  A gentleman named John provided the solution to the problem only to also find out that this package I have been working so hard to install is already in my computer.  I am the fool I appear to be, although, after wasting so many peoples' valuable time, I am committed to learn how to do the process so that I will never again waste so many peoples' time when I actually have a problem installing a .bin.

I was in the process of getting help from my ISP on another problem when they stopped me and instructed that I was missing this package and sent me to a download site to get it.  I supposedly had to have it before they would proceed to the next step in help.  I made the foolish assumption that they knew I did not have the package, otherwise why would the subject have come up.  Any that is my reason, not my excuse for wasting your time.

If you choose to continue to help, I appreciate it; if not, I understand.

Humbly,

Steven
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 03:45:54 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:45:54 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	=?iso-8859-1?q?run=09some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <49779BC9.7030702@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211639.47512.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49779BC9.7030702@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901212245.55002.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:03:53 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> chmod a+x /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin

Dear Matt,

If you are not yet aware, I got an easy resolution to the problem from a man named John.  As a result, I found that the package was already installed in my computer.  I have wasted so many peoples time, I am heartbroken.  

An ISP suggested I did not have the appropriate package and needed it before they could continue to help me, and directed me to a download site and the file in question.  I have been struggling ever since.  Nonetheless, it did not occur to me to see if it was already in my computer, because I was stopped from continued service for not having it.

I am dedicated to learn the process now anyway, so that the time I have taken from the list will not be a complete waste, and so that I will know how to avoid repeating the problem in the future when the skill is needed.  If you don't want to continue to help, I don't blame you, but this time I cut and pasted your input and still did not solve the problem.  Here is the result:

steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$ chmod a+x /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin
chmod: cannot access `/home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$

With multiple helps from others, I keep getting this same result.  Have I provided faulty data?

Steven
 
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From fmause_1999 at yahoo.de  Thu Jan 22 06:55:54 2009
From: fmause_1999 at yahoo.de (Frank Mause)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:55:54 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: AW: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <953308.37013.qm@web25404.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>


________________________________


Hello steven,

do you know the program "wine "? 

It does enabls you to use Win-programs.

Cu.  Frank


I have been watching a poker program on late night TV, 2am.  They suggest I 
can play for free with playmoney.  I downloaded the package, which is 
an .exe, but I don't know how to install it.  Can you help me.

Steven

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From basroufs at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 07:13:02 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:13:02 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 desktop - how to get back the panel at the bottom of the
	screen?
Message-ID: <c638edc20901212313w6494df50qaab2ae909dc0efc4@mail.gmail.com>

Dear everybody

Because of some mistake I cannot reconstruct any more, I lost the
panel at my desktop: the bar at the bottom screen of Kubuntu 8.10. I
tried to get it back by means of the option 'add panel'. But this does
not work. Also via system settings, I did not yet manage to find a way
to get back the panel as it was when I installed Kubuntu 8.10. Inside
the system settings menu, I tried APPEARANCE, DESKTOP and WINDOW
BEHAVIOUR. Quite probably I have overlooked some option which could
help me.
The absence of the panel at the bottom makes working at the desktop
quite complicated .... So I would highly appreciate your (short)
answer. Thanks!

Bas.

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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Thu Jan 22 07:21:59 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:21:59 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 desktop - how to get back the panel at the bottom
	of the   screen?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901212313w6494df50qaab2ae909dc0efc4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901212313w6494df50qaab2ae909dc0efc4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gl96qh$stu$1@ger.gmane.org>

Bas Roufs wrote:

> The absence of the panel at the bottom makes working at the desktop
> quite complicated .... So I would highly appreciate your (short)
> answer. Thanks!

Hi Bas,
there probably is a smarter way to do it.
If there is none, I do it like this:

-open a terminal
-cp .kde/ .kde.org
-cp .kde4/ .kde4.org

This copies your existing kde configuration to .org suffixes. This is 
done, just in case that you will miss important things after the next step.
In my experinece, especially Kmail and Kontact data has a tendency to 
get lost, when the configuration is simply deleted without having a 
backup. ;-)

-rm .kde .kde4

This removes your existing kde configration. After login off and back 
in, you will be back at the default Kubuntu Desktop where any 
modifications that you made to KDE, are gone and your bottom panel 
should be there, again.

Kind regards
Eberhard





From tuxebi at gmx.de  Thu Jan 22 07:34:30 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:34:30 +0100
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <49777A91.8090608@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49777A91.8090608@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <gl97i0$uka$1@ger.gmane.org>

Matthew Flaschen wrote:

> Steven, this is off-topic.  However, you need a router with wireless
> bridge capabilities, like
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833180035&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Network+-+Wireless+AP/Bridge-_-Encore-_-33180035
> I'm sure there are cheaper ones; that's just an example.  The idea is
> that the router connects to the downtown wireless network, and your
> computer connects to the router by CAT-5/Ethernet cable.
> 

Hi,

for this, the router imho strictly does NOT have to act as a bridge.
The wireless end connects to the city network and the ethernet end is 
connected to Stevens' machines.
So the router needs to route from wirless to wired and vice versa, not 
to bridge anything.


I am using such a setup over here in germany and the WLan-Provider 
delivered my linksys wrt 54 router, which they beefed up with a special 
firmware for the prupose.

Kind regards
Eberhard






From gkourtev at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 09:09:52 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:09:52 +0200
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
In-Reply-To: <1232585271.20058.160.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <20090112164929.69a652c3.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
	<20090116153001.4cbb342c.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
	<1232585271.20058.160.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <200901221109.53077.gkourtev@gmail.com>

By the way, is still the update broken?  I cannot get it work still. Does 
anyone has success on that?  OO works fine (but with a strange look) until 
openoffice.org-kde is installed and messes up all.
Thanks.
gk


On Thursday 22 January 2009 02:47:51 Ric Moore wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:30 +0000, James Tappin wrote:
> > [FWIW on Hardy a combination of Ctrl-Tab & Alt-Tab can get you to a
> > terminal window to do a "killall soffice", on Intrepid I had to do
> > Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get to the Console to do it].
>
> I must have been asleep at the switch, I didn't know that! Thanks!! Ric
>
> --
>
> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
> Linux user# 44256
> https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
> Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987


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From jonorland at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 09:38:42 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:38:42 +0100
Subject: Openoffice.org 3 updates from PPA still broken
In-Reply-To: <200901221109.53077.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <20090112164929.69a652c3.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
	<20090116153001.4cbb342c.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>
	<1232585271.20058.160.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
	<200901221109.53077.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901220138p7bc4ce30t9bf5e76cbe555c55@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/22 Georgi Kourtev <gkourtev at gmail.com>:
> By the way, is still the update broken? I cannot get it work still. Does
> anyone has success on that? OO works fine (but with a strange look) until
> openoffice.org-kde is installed and messes up all.
>
> Thanks.
>

It's still sort of broken. If you have openoffice.org-kde installed
you cant use the KDE file dialogs as they will not open when clicking
the file dialog button. Activating the OpenOffice dialogs in the
settings restores the function of the open file button but without KDE
dialogs. Another thing, it will often crash in the background leaving
zombie processes that you have to manually killed before you can start
OpenOffice again.

/ Jonas



From rlp1938 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 09:42:01 2009
From: rlp1938 at gmail.com (Robert Parker)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:42:01 +0700
Subject: Canon LBP 2900 Laser Printer
Message-ID: <8f6eb7340901220142q2087de9au5986255b8a99f683@mail.gmail.com>

I am considering buying a Canon LBP 2900 laser printer. I have
downloaded the Canon driver source package and will compile it later.

I'd appreciate comments from anyone with experience using this printer.

Bob
-- 
In a world without walls who needs Windows (or Gates)? Try Linux instead!



From arnaud.bourree at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 09:57:51 2009
From: arnaud.bourree at gmail.com (Arnaud bourree)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:57:51 +0100
Subject: Enabled Wifi when there is no wire
Message-ID: <ac06429e0901220157o144d805bl3982fa98a4ee25e4@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I'd like to configure my laptop in order to only enable Wifi (eth1) when
there is no wire (eth0).
How can I do it?

Regards,

Arnaud.
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 12:27:14 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:27:14 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <49779C00.5070801@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211600.01686.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49779C00.5070801@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901220727.15061.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:04:48 pm Jim wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> >> Steven, this is off-topic.
Thanks Jim.  Sorry to include this on the list.  I will try Dlink.  I just 
feel so close to those on this forum, and forget its basic purpose.  The 
second thing I do each day is check the List.  Then it usually is off to 
another day at the computer.  It makes for a happy life.  GOD usually gets my 
first attention.

Cordially,
Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 12:37:19 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:37:19 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <lhuk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<lhuk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <200901220737.20048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 8:25:41 pm Derek Broughton wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> > I just tried to change my ISP to Cincinnati Bell, to get cheaper and
> > faster
> > service.  They told me that I could connect free to the downtown
> > free-service, because I am in live in the area.  My laptop is broken ,
> > but I
> > have a router with antenna.  They said I would have to purchase their
> > wireless service to connect to it.
>
> What part of "purchase" is "free"?
>
> Sounds like a scam to me.
Here in Dayton, to promote the Downtown area, they have included free internet 
service.  It works pretty well.  Lots of people hang out downtown in the 
coffee shops with their computers and socialize becuase of it.  Lots of 
students in Dayton.  My studio is very close to the downtown area and is in 
the area of free service.  I am so stupid that I never thought of it before 
now.  Anyway my laptop broke a week after I purchased it; it was used so 
there was no recourse.  It never occurred to me to hook my PC to it.  I think 
that the service is probably not a part of the need.  I think that it was not 
figured when the City started the promotion and therefore has caused them to 
lose a lot of downtown service business.  Anyway, unless you have to have 
some code connection to a wireless service to make your laptop modem to 
connect, it makes sense that you could use it free without having service in 
the area you are located.

When a person with a laptop goes on a business trip, is he charged connection 
fees when out of his home area?  Or is he able to connect to any available 
signal where he is currently located, eliminating the ISP from collecting a 
fee?  An interesting thought.

Thanks for the input.  Enjoy the day.

Steven




From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Thu Jan 22 12:54:13 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:54:13 -0600
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <gl97i0$uka$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49777A91.8090608@gatech.edu>
	<gl97i0$uka$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <49786C75.2090008@swbell.net>

On 01/22/2009 Eberhard Roloff wrote:
>  I am using such a setup over here in germany and the WLan-Provider
>  delivered my linksys wrt 54 router, which they beefed up with a
>  special firmware for the prupose.

Probably something like the DD-WRT firmware upgrade [ 
http://www.dd-wrt.com/ ].  We usually buy a Linksys wireless router and 
install the new software. [ After the upgrade don't try to access with 
IE - it won't work *<]:o)  ]

As I recall you have to reset the router to act as a client with the new 
software to act as needed.

To see what routers are supported and what software to use you can go to

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices

Some D-Link routers can also be upgraded.

-- 
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 12:58:49 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:58:49 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	=?iso-8859-1?q?run=09some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <4977792F.7000602@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<646a014e0901211042j1dd664bdn3c8bf25c4594f1c5@mail.gmail.com>
	<4977792F.7000602@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901220758.49861.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:36:15 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Geoffrey Bays wrote:
> > FYI,you can view text files with 'more', but then you can only scroll
> > down. If you use the  'less' utility, then you can scroll up or down
> > with the up/down arrows.
>
> I use most, which has all the functionality of less plus good
> highlighting and search functionality.
>
> Matt Flaschen

The more function was only briefly mentioned.  How do I use that feature?  Do 
I have to be in a particular directory?  Then, do I simply type in 'more' and 
press enter?  What is the procedure?

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 13:04:21 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:04:21 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211721.32228.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211623.15650.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211721.32228.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901220804.21616.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:21:32 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
> >On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:17:03 pm Edmund Laugasson wrote:
> >> sudo ./
> >

> See above.  The period in front of the path anchors it to the present 'pwd'
> point for its starting point to search for the file.  

That is why I put it in the command.  Nonetheless, removing the '.' wasn't enough to fix the problem.  Thanks for the input.


> man chmod
>
> is your friend

When I finish reading my posts, I will spend some time in 'man chmod' to see what it is all about.  Thanks friend.

Steven
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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 13:07:50 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:07:50 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	=?iso-8859-1?q?run=09some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <4977A058.1000200@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49779C9D.70805@gatech.edu> <4977A058.1000200@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901220807.50554.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:23:20 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:

> Space bar also works, and scrolls a page at a time (enter scrolls a line
> at a time).
Wow! Matt.  The spacebar does work.  Thanks.  But none of the other 
suggestions, using the down arrows, etc. did not work on my computer.  This 
is just great.  I can now put this one to bed.

Steven



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Thu Jan 22 13:13:54 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:13:54 -0600
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <200901220737.20048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<lhuk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901220737.20048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49787112.8080003@swbell.net>

On 01/22/2009 Steven Vollom wrote:
>  When a person with a laptop goes on a business trip, is he charged
>  connection
>  fees when out of his home area?  Or is he able to connect to any
>  available
>  signal where he is currently located, eliminating the ISP from
>  collecting a
>  fee?  An interesting thought.

Most hotels provide a free wifi connection now days [ some are still 
"wired" ]. Some require you to log in with a password they give you on 
check-in, others are wide open. A lot of the "travel" food service 
places also provide a free wifi, Denny's, IHOP, MCDonalds, etc. These 
are usually wide open. Many cities are also providing a wifi "hotspot" 
in downtown areas or "tourist areas" to promote people coming to that area.

All these places pay the internet bill to get people to come spend their 
money. SO, No, your ISP can't charge you a connection fee when you use 
these services. Someone else already pays the fee.

-- 
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 13:15:55 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:15:55 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211743.37269.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211651.20773.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211743.37269.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901220815.55453.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:43:37 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
> chmod a+x /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin

Hi Gene, it has been so long since I got the instruction above, I cannot 
remember what the instruction would do.  When I entered the command, it 
simply switched to a new line with the # there, indicating I was still in 
root.  Is the reason I did not see any activity take place because the file 
is already in the computer?  Would it normally have installed the package?

I am going to man chmod before I continue this thought.  Later.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 13:20:38 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:20:38 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211743.37269.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211651.20773.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211743.37269.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901220820.38893.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:43:37 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
> chmod a+x /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin

I just read most of man chmod.  I will have to learn more before I can 
understand the chmod function.  There are too many new terms for me to handle 
without spending a lot of type studying.  I will do that after I finish my 
post responses.  Thanks!

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 13:23:18 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:23:18 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed
	=?iso-8859-1?q?to=09run_some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211745.36895.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49779C9D.70805@gatech.edu>
	<200901211745.36895.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901220823.18395.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:45:36 pm Gene Heskett wrote:

> And TBT Matt, one of the reasons I haven't used 'more' in years, simply
> because 'less' is more, with lots more...
 
I know this is going to seem really stupid of me, but when is it that you type 
in either the 'more' command or the 'less' command, and is it the only word 
typed into the command line at that time?

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 13:43:44 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:43:44 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <4977A89D.7040509@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211745.36895.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<4977A89D.7040509@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901220843.44907.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:58:37 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:

> But most (http://www.jedsoft.org/most/) is best, and apt-gettable.

The 'most' site is under construction.  I could not find any information in 
how to use 'most'.  Thanks.  It is installed though.  I couldn't find it 
anywhere on the kmenu, so I will just have to remember it and try later for 
the website.  I hope I don't forget.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 13:45:20 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:45:20 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	=?iso-8859-1?q?run=09some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <4977A364.7010508@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211733.07203.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4977A364.7010508@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901220845.21088.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:36:20 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:

> You don't need to type more or less.  Try pressing enter or spacebar to
> scroll.
Thanks Matt, the space bar worked.

Steven



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 22 13:36:31 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:36:31 -0400
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 desktop - how to get back the panel at the bottom of
	the screen?
References: <c638edc20901212313w6494df50qaab2ae909dc0efc4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <vb9m46-fsn.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Bas Roufs wrote:

> Because of some mistake I cannot reconstruct any more, I lost the
> panel at my desktop:

Don't blame yourself - I've lost the panel numerous times through actions 
that _shouldn't_ have that effect.  One cause was clicking on an odd "cashew"  
icon in the system tray.  It turned out to be ksystraycmd - which is used as 
a wrapper around menu items for which you specify "place in system tray".  
Unfortunately, clicking on "exit", there, rather than exiting ksystraycmd 
kills your whole panel.  

Anyway, if you haven't done anything like logging off since losing the panel, 
just ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X and it will come back when you log in 
again  (ie, you want to kill your current session, without _saving_ the 
session).

> The absence of the panel at the bottom makes working at the desktop
> quite complicated .... So I would highly appreciate your (short)
> answer. Thanks!

Adding a panel _does_ work - you just have to rebuild everything in it - 
that is, add all the widgets including the Menu (application launcher), 
system tray, and task manager.





From jonorland at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 13:46:29 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:46:29 +0100
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901220823.18395.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49779C9D.70805@gatech.edu>
	<200901211745.36895.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901220823.18395.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901220546x6903bb0aidac00932cfcc422a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/22 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:45:36 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>> And TBT Matt, one of the reasons I haven't used 'more' in years, simply
>> because 'less' is more, with lots more...
>
> I know this is going to seem really stupid of me, but when is it that you type
> in either the 'more' command or the 'less' command, and is it the only word
> typed into the command line at that time?
>
> Steven
>

He was playing with the words. Just use less it's better and easier to
use for you.

more is an old command http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_(command)
from 1978 and first appeared in BSD 3.0. less
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Less_(Unix) , is a similar command with
extended capability like moving back and forward in the file where
more only could move forward.

/ Jonas



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 13:53:28 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:53:28 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901211741.40542.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211639.47512.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211741.40542.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901220853.28261.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:41:40 pm Gene Heskett wrote:

> gene at goat:~$ cd /etc
> gene at goat:/etc$
>
> The prompt changes accordingly.
>
> Hopefully this is beginning to make sense?

Actually it is.  Thanks Gene.  I really appreciate your taking the time to 
explain.  I don't think I would ever catch on without this type of help.  You 
are a great friend.

Steven




From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 22 13:47:30 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:47:30 -0400
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to	run
	some tests by the isp.
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49779C9D.70805@gatech.edu>
	<200901211745.36895.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901220823.18395.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <i0am46-fsn.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Steven Vollom wrote:

> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:45:36 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
>> And TBT Matt, one of the reasons I haven't used 'more' in years, simply
>> because 'less' is more, with lots more...
>  
> I know this is going to seem really stupid of me, but when is it that you
> type in either the 'more' command or the 'less' command, and is it the
> only word typed into the command line at that time?

I must restrain myself from doing an Abott and Costello number on "more or 
less"...

Read up about "filters" and "pipes".  more (or less) is a filter.  Probably 
the majority of Unix commands actually work as filters, which means that they 
accept input on stdin, do something to it, and output it on stdout.  Like 
most filters, though, more (or less) will accept a file argument from which it 
will read, rather than stdin.  You generally give input to a filter by 
outputting from one program on stdout, piping it (|)  to stdin of the filter 
program.

Therefore:

> less file.txt
is equivalent to:

> cat file.txt | less
or even:

> cat file.txt | less -

(a single "-" often works in programs that don't normally read stdin to say 
that the input file _is_ stdin)

I can't resist any longer: And that's more or less the whole thing...

Once you've learned all this, then you get into file redirection...






From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 22 13:58:05 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:58:05 -0400
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<lhuk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901220737.20048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <dkam46-f6o.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Steven Vollom wrote:

> Anyway my laptop broke a week after I purchased it; it was used so
> there was no recourse.  

Warranties?

> It never occurred to me to hook my PC to it.  I
> think
> that the service is probably not a part of the need.  I think that it was
> not figured when the City started the promotion and therefore has caused
> them to
> lose a lot of downtown service business.  Anyway, unless you have to have
> some code connection to a wireless service to make your laptop modem to
> connect, it makes sense that you could use it free without having service
> in the area you are located.

I'm still not really sure what you're saying, but I _think_ what your 
provider is suggesting is that you need to pay them to provide facilities 
like mail and web hosting, but you don't really need that.  If your system 
can access the free downtown wifi, and browse the web, then you can use 
Google or Yahoo or no doubt any number of other services to provide you with 
those features.
> 
> When a person with a laptop goes on a business trip, is he charged
> connection fees when out of his home area?  

Typically you're charged connection fees (or not) by the people actually 
providing the wifi signal.  If they charge (and most do) it's usually by 
using a "Hotspot" system, which in various ways meters your usage and bills 
you.

> Or is he able to connect to any available
> signal where he is currently located, eliminating the ISP from collecting
> a fee?  An interesting thought.

You can connect to any signal you can find that is "open" - if your city 
provides "Free" wifi, then you can connect to it.  Typically, people with 
laptops just scan for the first available wifi signal (see "wardriving"), 
which could be construed as "Theft of service" if there isn't a specific 
indication that the service is supposed to be open - in practice, most 
people believe that a theft charge would fail if the owner of the wifi had 
not made at least a minimal attempt to prevent access, but as far as I know 
that hasn't been tested in a North American court.
> 
> Thanks for the input.  Enjoy the day.
> 
> Steven






From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 14:05:01 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:05:01 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <49777248.4040306@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49777248.4040306@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901220905.01730.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Try typing in a terminal (or from the run command dialogue)
> wine \path\to\program\playmoney.exe
> Write back and let us know what errors you get.

steven at Studio25:~$ wine \path\to\program\FullTiltSetup.exe
err:module:import_dll Library TDI.SYS (which is needed by L"C:
\\PROG~FBU\\SPEE~4WL\\sbbotdi.sys") not found
err:winedevice:ServiceMain driver L"sbbotdi" failed to load
wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\pathtoprogramFullTiltSetup.exe": 
Module not found
steven at Studio25:~$

What do I do?  Do I 'cd' to 'wine' then type in "import_dll Library TDI.SYS"?  
When you type in playmoney.exe, you really mean FullTiltSetup.exe, don't you?

Steven




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 14:07:09 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:07:09 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <49779FD3.3090504@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211713.09033.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49779FD3.3090504@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901220907.09783.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:21:07 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> wine ./FullTiltSetup.exe

steven at Studio25:~$ wine \path\to\program\FullTiltSetup.exe
err:module:import_dll Library TDI.SYS (which is needed by L"C:
\\PROG~FBU\\SPEE~4WL\\sbbotdi.sys") not found
err:winedevice:ServiceMain driver L"sbbotdi" failed to load
wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\pathtoprogramFullTiltSetup.exe": 
Module not found
steven at Studio25:~$ cd /home/steven/.wine/drive_c/
steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$ cd downloads
bash: cd: downloads: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$ cd FullTiltSetup
bash: cd: FullTiltSetup: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$ wine ./FullTiltSetup.exe
wine: cannot find './FullTiltSetup.exe'
steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$

Steven




From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 22 13:48:31 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:48:31 -0400
Subject: Lost icon for desktops
References: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<200901211037.37596.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<49774501.5020306@gmail.com>
	<200901211125.36959.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<js5k46-nfb.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <49777494.1090909@gmail.com>
	<0muk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <4977DCD2.7070509@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f2am46-fsn.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

D. R. Evans wrote:

> Derek Broughton said the following at 01/21/2009 06:28 PM :
> 
>> 
>> Yeah, but it adds a _blank_ panel.  I've lost my panel numerous times,
>> and find the only thing to do is ctrl-alt-backspace, to kill X, and log
>> in again. It's way simpler than trying to rebuild a panel.
> 
> Oh, right, I see now what you were saying. Right, in that case an X
> restart is definitely the way to go. Communication is a wonderful thing.
> 
> I haven't been counting, but I think I have had to restart X at least half
> a dozen times in intrepid. That's half a down times more than I had to
> restart it in the prior 18 months or so :-( Something's definitely
> regressed a bit in intrepid.

Yes, that's exactly my experience.






From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 14:14:10 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:14:10 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <49779FFA.5040806@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211719.33756.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49779FFA.5040806@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901220914.10786.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:21:46 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:

> > steven at Studio25:~$ wine \path\to\program\playmoney.exe
>
> That path was only an example.  You need to substitute the actual path
> of the program.

steven at Studio25:~$ wine /Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe
wine: cannot find '/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe'
steven at Studio25:~$ wine \Desktop\FullTiltSetup.exe
err:module:import_dll Library TDI.SYS (which is needed by L"C:
\\PROG~FBU\\SPEE~4WL\\sbbotdi.sys") not found
err:winedevice:ServiceMain driver L"sbbotdi" failed to load
wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\DesktopFullTiltSetup.exe": 
Module not found
steven at Studio25:~$

I first tried with forward slash, because the file is on my Linux Desktop.  
Should it have been wine \home\steven\Desktop\FullTiltSetup.exe?

Steven




From d.mcglone at att.net  Thu Jan 22 14:14:04 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:14:04 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to 
	=?iso-8859-15?q?run=09some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901212245.55002.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49779BC9.7030702@gatech.edu>
	<200901212245.55002.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901220914.04407.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 10:45:54 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:03:53 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> > chmod a+x /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin
>
> Dear Matt,
>
> If you are not yet aware, I got an easy resolution to the problem from a
> man named John.  As a result, I found that the package was already
> installed in my computer.  I have wasted so many peoples time, I am
> heartbroken.
>
> An ISP suggested I did not have the appropriate package and needed it
> before they could continue to help me, and directed me to a download site
> and the file in question.  I have been struggling ever since.  Nonetheless,
> it did not occur to me to see if it was already in my computer, because I
> was stopped from continued service for not having it.
>
> I am dedicated to learn the process now anyway, so that the time I have
> taken from the list will not be a complete waste, and so that I will know
> how to avoid repeating the problem in the future when the skill is needed. 
> If you don't want to continue to help, I don't blame you, but this time I
> cut and pasted your input and still did not solve the problem.  Here is the
> result:
>
> steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$ chmod a+x
> /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin chmod: cannot access
> `/home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
> steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$
>
> With multiple helps from others, I keep getting this same result.  Have I
> provided faulty data?

the problem with this command is you seem to have misspelled the word "full". 
You typed jre-6ull when it should be jre-6full. 
-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 22 14:05:52 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:05:52 -0400
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49777A91.8090608@gatech.edu> <gl97i0$uka$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <03bm46-f6o.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Eberhard Roloff wrote:

> for this, the router imho strictly does NOT have to act as a bridge.
> The wireless end connects to the city network and the ethernet end is
> connected to Stevens' machines.

You're right - it doesn't need to be a bridge.  There are three options I 
can think of:

1) a bridge
2) a wireless repeater (WDS - which wouldn't work in this specific case, 
iirc, as the router at the other end needs to be configured for it)
3) a wireless client

> So the router needs to route from wirless to wired and vice versa, not
> to bridge anything.

That's operating in Client mode, and many (if not most) routers can do that.  

One advantage to using a router for the purpose is that if you can get a 
signal at all with a laptop, you could use a router with a nice directional 
antenna and get a great signal.

A disadvantage to using a router in client mode is that it isn't actually 
_routing_ - so you're not on a separate subnet, and you should have your own 
firewall up.






From d.mcglone at att.net  Thu Jan 22 14:30:36 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:30:36 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901212233.21279.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220001.39611.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
	<200901212233.21279.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901220930.37049.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 10:33:20 pm Steven Vollom wrote:

> I was in the process of getting help from my ISP on another problem when
> they stopped me and instructed that I was missing this package and sent me
> to a download site to get it.  I supposedly had to have it before they
> would proceed to the next step in help.  I made the foolish assumption that
> they knew I did not have the package, otherwise why would the subject have
> come up.  Any that is my reason, not my excuse for wasting your time.

I never listen to support tech's at companies. My 9 year old son has better 
computer knowledge than most of them tech's.

I've even once had to show a cable installer how to get a connection when he 
sat down at my computer to finish his installation.

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 22 14:38:37 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:38:37 -0400
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<lhuk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901220737.20048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<dkam46-f6o.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <d0dm46-f6o.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Derek Broughton wrote:

> Typically you're charged connection fees (or not) by the people actually
> providing the wifi signal.  If they charge (and most do) it's usually by
> using a "Hotspot" system, which in various ways meters your usage and
> bills you.

Actually, I probably shouldn't have said "most do" - in Canada, they're very 
mercenary, and most do.  I've heard that in many other countries, people 
actually see it as a way to attract business.  The sites often still do use 
a Hotspot system to meter usage, but there is often not an actual payment 
required (other than to buy a coffee, or a burger, or whatever they're trying 
to attract business for).





From ender8282 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 22 15:12:42 2009
From: ender8282 at yahoo.com (John Hubbard)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:12:42 -0700
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901220815.55453.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211651.20773.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211743.37269.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901220815.55453.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49788CEA.2090004@yahoo.com>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:43:37 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
>   
>> chmod a+x /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
>>     
>
> Hi Gene, it has been so long since I got the instruction above, I cannot 
> remember what the instruction would do.  When I entered the command, it 
> simply switched to a new line with the # there, indicating I was still in 
> root.  Is the reason I did not see any activity take place because the file 
> is already in the computer?  Would it normally have installed the package?
>
> I am going to man chmod before I continue this thought.  Later.
>
> Steven
>
>   
The command was trying to make the file jre-6ul... executable for 
everyone. If you type
 > ls -l /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
you should something like:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jhubbard jhubbard 30 2008-09-07 09:48 dates
The rwx stuff is telling you who has read, write, and execute 
privileges. The first three rwx tell whether the user who owns the file 
has the rights, the second set tells whether the group that owns the 
file has rights, and the final set tells whether all user have rwx 
privileges. In this case the file 'dates' can be executed by user 
jhubbard, members of the group jhubbard, and also everyone else. The 
file can only we written by the user jhubbard. And just like execution 
everyone can read it. After the list of who owns it you get the size of 
the file. The file is actually bigger than one byte and I am not sure 
why it is only showing up as that size. After size, is the user and then 
the group that owns the file. Then the date that the file was modified on.
Hope this helps.


-- 
-john

To be or not to be, that is the question
                2b || !2b
(0b10)*(0b1100010) || !(0b10)*(0b1100010)
        0b11000100 || !0b11000100
        0b11000100 || 0b00111011
               0b11111111
        255, that is the answer.





From ender8282 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 22 15:14:31 2009
From: ender8282 at yahoo.com (John Hubbard)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:14:31 -0700
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901220807.50554.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49779C9D.70805@gatech.edu>
	<4977A058.1000200@gatech.edu>
	<200901220807.50554.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49788D57.4040407@yahoo.com>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:23:20 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>
>   
>> Space bar also works, and scrolls a page at a time (enter scrolls a line
>> at a time).
>>     
> Wow! Matt.  The spacebar does work.  Thanks.  But none of the other 
> suggestions, using the down arrows, etc. did not work on my computer.  This 
> is just great.  I can now put this one to bed.
>
> Steven
>
>   
I want to say that space bar gives you one line at a time and return 
gives you one page at a time. If it is a long document you might find 
that you prefer return.

-- 
-john

To be or not to be, that is the question
                2b || !2b
(0b10)*(0b1100010) || !(0b10)*(0b1100010)
        0b11000100 || !0b11000100
        0b11000100 || 0b00111011
               0b11111111
        255, that is the answer.





From donn.ingle at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 15:31:53 2009
From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:31:53 +0200
Subject: Is there some trick -- Yes! Get the path right.
In-Reply-To: <200901220907.09783.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49779FD3.3090504@gatech.edu>
	<200901220907.09783.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901221731.54022.donn.ingle@gmail.com>

> steven at Studio25:~$ wine \path\to\program\FullTiltSetup.exe
\path\to\program is not a real path. It's an example.

Step 1:
*Always* know where things are.
If you are concerned with 'FullTiltSetup.exe' then MAKE SURE you are in the 
SAME directory where it is.

*Only* you will know where that is -- you downloaded it after all.

Step 2:
Use the 'cd' command to go to the right place.

So, let's assume that it's on your desktop. 
1. That path is ~/Desktop
[Note: ~ means /home/steven/ -- It's a shortcut. Use it.]
[Note: It's Captital 'D' for Desktop]

2. Therefore: cd ~/Desktop

Now, you can confirm that you are in the right place by looking at what files 
there are in the directory. Use 'ls' for this. Look for the file you are 
concerned with.

If it's not there, then do what you have to to find where you downloaded it 
to. Then 'cd' to that place.

Only after all of that will you be ready to *do* anything with the file you 
are concerned with.

Let's assume you are in the *right* place, so to use wine to run the program 
you would:
wine FullTiltSetup.exe

After that we can see what happens and fix other problems.

Steven, I spent a lot of time doing those diagrams for you. Lots of other 
people are also repeating themselves often. Please *take care* to type 
carefully, follow the few simple rules (like knowing where you are) and you 
should be 90% of the way to Linux bliss.

\d



From ender8282 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 22 15:36:39 2009
From: ender8282 at yahoo.com (John Hubbard)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:36:39 -0700
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901220914.04407.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49779BC9.7030702@gatech.edu>	<200901212245.55002.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220914.04407.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <49789287.4080303@yahoo.com>

David McGlone wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 10:45:54 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
>   
>>
>> steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$ chmod a+x
>> /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin chmod: cannot access
>> `/home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
>> steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$
>>     
>
> the problem with this command is you seem to have misspelled the word "full". 
> You typed jre-6ull when it should be jre-6full. 
>   
Thanks for pointing that out David. The binary that he wants to install 
is for the java runtime environment version 6 update 11. This becomes 
truncated to jre-6u11. Note the number 1 not the letter l. I think that 
this is part of Steven's problem. My suggestion would be for him to type
 > chmod a+x ~/Des[press the tab key] (this will auto complete Desktop 
and then finish...
 > chmod a+x ~/Desktop/jre[press the tab key] (to auto complete the binary)
 > chmod a+x ~/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin (then press enter.)

-- 
-john

To be or not to be, that is the question
                2b || !2b
(0b10)*(0b1100010) || !(0b10)*(0b1100010)
        0b11000100 || !0b11000100
        0b11000100 || 0b00111011
               0b11111111
        255, that is the answer.





From ender8282 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 22 15:52:35 2009
From: ender8282 at yahoo.com (John Hubbard)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:52:35 -0700
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <200901220905.01730.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49777248.4040306@yahoo.com>
	<200901220905.01730.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49789643.5080108@yahoo.com>

Steven Vollom wrote:
>> Try typing in a terminal (or from the run command dialogue)
>> wine \path\to\program\playmoney.exe
>> Write back and let us know what errors you get.
>>     
>
> steven at Studio25:~$ wine \path\to\program\FullTiltSetup.exe
> err:module:import_dll Library TDI.SYS (which is needed by L"C:
> \\PROG~FBU\\SPEE~4WL\\sbbotdi.sys") not found
> err:winedevice:ServiceMain driver L"sbbotdi" failed to load
> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\pathtoprogramFullTiltSetup.exe": 
> Module not found
> steven at Studio25:~$
>
> What do I do?  Do I 'cd' to 'wine' then type in "import_dll Library TDI.SYS"?  
> When you type in playmoney.exe, you really mean FullTiltSetup.exe, don't you?
>   
As I think I said in my other (rather lengthy post) wine is 'in your 
path' and the shell will find it. You should cd to the location of 
FullTiltSetup.exe. Then type
 > wine FullTiltSetup.exe
(remember to try auto complete with the tab key.


-- 
-john

To be or not to be, that is the question
                2b || !2b
(0b10)*(0b1100010) || !(0b10)*(0b1100010)
        0b11000100 || !0b11000100
        0b11000100 || 0b00111011
               0b11111111
        255, that is the answer.





From tycho at tycho.ws  Thu Jan 22 16:57:34 2009
From: tycho at tycho.ws (Tycho Andersen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:57:34 -0600
Subject: Any LaTeX experts out here?
Message-ID: <49b3a7400901220857if9e9fcfs3dd3643ef1906af5@mail.gmail.com>

I recently wrote and submitted my first academic paper (hooray!). I've
installed and been using the texlive-full to do this. I used pdftex as
my compiler while writing the paper, but now I would like to post DVI
and PS files on my web page so that people can download it in the
format they prefer.

I've changed everything necessary to compile a DVI, and it compiles
fine and I've verified the output, so that's good. However, when I run
dvi2ps to try and convert, I get the following output:

tycho at mittens:~/www/pubs/inss2009$ dvi2ps inss2009.dvi

dvi2ps: FATAL-- cannot open fontdesc file "bikan-mor2"

Google yeilds nothing useful (rather, nothing in my only language
English). Is the (K)Ubuntu package missing this file?

TIA,
Tycho



From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Thu Jan 22 17:03:13 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:03:13 -0500
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 desktop - how to get back the panel at the bottom of
	the screen?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901212313w6494df50qaab2ae909dc0efc4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901212313w6494df50qaab2ae909dc0efc4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901221203.13551.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Thursday 22 January 2009, Bas Roufs wrote:
> Dear everybody
>
> Because of some mistake I cannot reconstruct any more, I lost the
> panel at my desktop: the bar at the bottom screen of Kubuntu 8.10. I
> tried to get it back by means of the option 'add panel'. But this does
> not work. Also via system settings, I did not yet manage to find a way
> to get back the panel as it was when I installed Kubuntu 8.10. Inside
> the system settings menu, I tried APPEARANCE, DESKTOP and WINDOW
> BEHAVIOUR. Quite probably I have overlooked some option which could
> help me.
> The absence of the panel at the bottom makes working at the desktop
> quite complicated .... So I would highly appreciate your (short)
> answer. Thanks!


The way I do this in KDE3 is to:

Settings --->  Desktop -->  Panels  -->  Hiding

Select on the 'Hide Mode' the one that isn't selected and Apply

Then select the other mode and Apply.

You should be back where you started.



From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Thu Jan 22 17:10:37 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:10:37 -0800
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <200901220737.20048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<lhuk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901220737.20048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901220910.37890.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 4:37:19 am Steven Vollom wrote:
>
> Here in Dayton, to promote the Downtown area, they have included free
> internet service.  It works pretty well.  Lots of people hang out downtown
> in the coffee shops with their computers and socialize becuase of it.  Lots
> of students in Dayton.  My studio is very close to the downtown area and is
> in the area of free service.  I am so stupid that I never thought of it
> before now.  Anyway my laptop broke a week after I purchased it; it was
> used so there was no recourse.  It never occurred to me to hook my PC to
> it.  I think that the service is probably not a part of the need.  I think
> that it was not figured when the City started the promotion and therefore
> has caused them to lose a lot of downtown service business.  Anyway, unless
> you have to have some code connection to a wireless service to make your
> laptop modem to connect, it makes sense that you could use it free without
> having service in the area you are located.

You can use the WiFi at many hotspots here in Washington.  Walla Walla has it 
in the downtown area as does Spokane, Colfax, Tri-cities, etc and I use it 
often when traveling through those areas.  BUT, the need for an ISP is for 
e-mail addresses, storage, large downloads, and webpage space so of course I 
have an ISP at my office and home.  You may not be using all the services 
your ISP provides and that you actually pay for, but what you pay for most is 
convenience and speed! 

> When a person with a laptop goes on a business trip, is he charged
> connection fees when out of his home area?  Or is he able to connect to any
> available signal where he is currently located, eliminating the ISP from
> collecting a fee?  An interesting thought.

Business trip connections are provided by most motels but you pay for them in 
the cost of your room.  They really are not free!  Any more than my motel 
room is free.  Someone ALWAYS has to pay the cost!  It is like to government, 
you pay dearly for their "free" services!   Those "free" services downtown 
are paid for by the customers of the coffee shops, wine tasting rooms (Walla 
Walla has more than 160 wineries today in a town of less than 20,000!), donut 
shops, restaurants, and such in higher priced goods.  Just why do you suppose 
Starbucks charges three bucks for their cup of coffee?  Materials to make 
that cup of coffee cost on average less than eight cents!



-- 
73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n><   PDGA# 35276
http://the-inner-circle.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr



From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Thu Jan 22 17:10:57 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:10:57 -0800
Subject: Enabled Wifi when there is no wire
In-Reply-To: <ac06429e0901220157o144d805bl3982fa98a4ee25e4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ac06429e0901220157o144d805bl3982fa98a4ee25e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901220910.57647.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 1:57:51 am Arnaud bourree wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to configure my laptop in order to only enable Wifi (eth1) when
> there is no wire (eth0).
> How can I do it?

My laptop has a switch on it which turns off the wifi, so do my office 
people's laptops and also the printer.  Is this not a normal practice?   I 
actually turn off the wifi on my laptop to save battery life when it isn't in 
use.  My battery only lasts about five hours without recharging so I carry 
another charged battery for my laptop in case and of course invested in an 
automobile charger so I can plug the laptop in while driving from place to 
place.  


-- 
73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n><   PDGA# 35276
http://the-inner-circle.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr



From ignazio_io at yahoo.it  Thu Jan 22 17:19:52 2009
From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:19:52 +0000
Subject: Any LaTeX experts out here?
In-Reply-To: <49b3a7400901220857if9e9fcfs3dd3643ef1906af5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49b3a7400901220857if9e9fcfs3dd3643ef1906af5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4978AAB8.3050706@yahoo.it>

Tycho Andersen wrote:
> I recently wrote and submitted my first academic paper (hooray!). I've
> installed and been using the texlive-full to do this. I used pdftex as
> my compiler while writing the paper, but now I would like to post DVI
> and PS files on my web page so that people can download it in the
> format they prefer.
> 
> I've changed everything necessary to compile a DVI, and it compiles
> fine and I've verified the output, so that's good. However, when I run
> dvi2ps to try and convert, I get the following output:
> 
> tycho at mittens:~/www/pubs/inss2009$ dvi2ps inss2009.dvi
> 
> dvi2ps: FATAL-- cannot open fontdesc file "bikan-mor2"
> 

I'd try first with pslatex in order to compile directly to a ps. Anyway, 
from personal experience, not all latex packages will like that the 
output is ps instead of pdf (especially true for graphicx), so beware of 
the dragons.
HTH,
I.

> Google yeilds nothing useful (rather, nothing in my only language
> English). Is the (K)Ubuntu package missing this file?
> 
> TIA,
> Tycho
> 




From gloonie at earthlink.net  Thu Jan 22 17:26:52 2009
From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:26:52 -0500
Subject: Any LaTeX experts out here?
In-Reply-To: <49b3a7400901220857if9e9fcfs3dd3643ef1906af5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49b3a7400901220857if9e9fcfs3dd3643ef1906af5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901221226.53243.gloonie@earthlink.net>

Tycho,

Did you use "dvi2ps"? Or was that just a misspelling. If so, try using "dvips" 
which comes with the TeX Live distro (also in Ubuntu).

HTH,

Glenn

On Thursday 22 January 2009 11:57:34 Tycho Andersen wrote:
> I recently wrote and submitted my first academic paper (hooray!). I've
> installed and been using the texlive-full to do this. I used pdftex as
> my compiler while writing the paper, but now I would like to post DVI
> and PS files on my web page so that people can download it in the
> format they prefer.
>
> I've changed everything necessary to compile a DVI, and it compiles
> fine and I've verified the output, so that's good. However, when I run
> dvi2ps to try and convert, I get the following output:
>
> tycho at mittens:~/www/pubs/inss2009$ dvi2ps inss2009.dvi
>
> dvi2ps: FATAL-- cannot open fontdesc file "bikan-mor2"
>
> Google yeilds nothing useful (rather, nothing in my only language
> English). Is the (K)Ubuntu package missing this file?
>
> TIA,
> Tycho




From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Thu Jan 22 17:34:43 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:34:43 -0600
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <200901220907.09783.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211713.09033.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49779FD3.3090504@gatech.edu>
	<200901220907.09783.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4978AE33.9080303@swbell.net>

If WINE is installed and working properly just pop open Dolphin, 
navigate to where the file, fulltiltsetup.exe, is located and double 
click the file. Follow the instructions in the setup.

DONE!

-- 
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.




From tycho at tycho.ws  Thu Jan 22 17:36:44 2009
From: tycho at tycho.ws (Tycho Andersen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:36:44 -0600
Subject: Any LaTeX experts out here?
In-Reply-To: <200901221226.53243.gloonie@earthlink.net>
References: <49b3a7400901220857if9e9fcfs3dd3643ef1906af5@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901221226.53243.gloonie@earthlink.net>
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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Glenn R Williams
<gloonie at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Tycho,
>
> Did you use "dvi2ps"? Or was that just a misspelling. If so, try using "dvips"
> which comes with the TeX Live distro (also in Ubuntu).

Awesome, thanks Glenn. That's exactly what I was looking for.

Tycho



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 17:54:55 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:54:55 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <4977B2A8.2070101@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211719.33756.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4977B2A8.2070101@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901221254.56010.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 6:41:28 pm John Hubbard wrote:

> Sorry to jump over your head. 

At this point in the learning process, I appreciate the extra help.  I have 
been trying to learn for 4 years, and I am obviously not very smart at it.  I 
have no feelings to worry about or pride or anything.  And if it gets too 
simple, I will tell you in consideration for your extra work. Thanks in 
advance.  

> directory /home/seven/Desktop. 

It is located:  /home/steven/Desktop




wine FullTiltSetup.exe

>  >wine foo.exe

Apparently I am missing some stuff, here is what came up.  Additionally a box 
opened requesting my language, so setup seems to be trying to function.:


steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$ wine /home/steven/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe
err:module:import_dll Library TDI.SYS (which is needed by L"C:
\\PROG~FBU\\SPEE~4WL\\sbbotdi.sys") not found
err:winedevice:ServiceMain driver L"sbbotdi" failed to load
fixme:midi:OSS_MidiInit Synthesizer supports MIDI in. Not yet supported.
fixme:advapi:ImpersonateLoggedOnUser (0xd4)
fixme:winstation:OpenInputDesktop (0,1,1): stub
fixme:advapi:ImpersonateLoggedOnUser (0x118)
fixme:winstation:OpenInputDesktop (0,1,1): stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION 
stub
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 4
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 2
fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOptionHelper Unhandled dwOption 3

By the way, your help is perfect.  Thanks.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 17:59:36 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:59:36 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0901211601v383c8064h4515245a97502a52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<3dde113c0901211601v383c8064h4515245a97502a52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901221259.37055.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> You don't need the command line, if you find that confusing.
>
> Click on "FullTiltPoker.exe"  - if "Wine" is installed, it will invoke it
> and install it for you.  Then it should show up in your menu, under Wine.
>
> Or, to be safe, go into the installer and search on "wine" and install it,
> if not installed.

If you don't object, my previous email will show what my problem is, I think.  
As far as the command line is concerned, it is my primary project.  I must 
get to a point where I can help myself more and trouble you less.  It may 
take me a little longer than most, but I believe I can handle it, in time.  
So if you are willing on this project, please continue with Command Line.

I think I am missing some necessary files.  When I find out for sure, and find 
them, and install them, I believe I will be able to handle QUI instructions 
fine if my system has what it needs to work.  I still much prefer learning 
how to use the Command Line.

Thanks!
Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 18:07:36 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:07:36 -0500
Subject: What are the firewalls present on a normal installation of hardy?
	**Problem RESOLVED** Thanks to all.
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901211243q5d5caf3ao70c27ee0284f3069@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901211221.10750.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49775F48.2000603@yahoo.it>
	<b8d784880901211243q5d5caf3ao70c27ee0284f3069@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901221307.37277.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 3:43:06 pm Jonas Norlander wrote:

> I would try to test without the router and if its good then it's a bad
> router or some configuration in it. Ubuntu has a firewall, UFW,
> installed but as default it's disabled and i doubt it will have such
> impact on the bandwidth.

 It is kbps.  I am not running through the router right now.  The signal comes 
directly through the telephone line, through the DSL modem, to the computer.

I am probably getting the correct readings.  70 kpbs is within the 384 to 768 
range they supply when multiplying by 8 bits.  It is in the middle.  Just a 
month ago, I had a different service and usually received about 160kpbs.  The 
raised the rates past my ability to pay and I was downgraded.  It is quite a 
reduction 50% for $5 per month.

I guess this problem is solved, although not happily.  Thanks for your 
trouble.  The gain is I better understand this problem now. 

Cordially,
Steven



From donn.ingle at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 18:24:23 2009
From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:24:23 +0200
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <200901221254.56010.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4977B2A8.2070101@yahoo.com>
	<200901221254.56010.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901222024.24139.donn.ingle@gmail.com>

On Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:54:55 Steven Vollom wrote:
> steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$ wine /home/steven/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe
Steven,
If you are already in the right directory, then you don't have to repeat the 
entire path.
So: 
steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$ wine FullTiltSetup.exe 
would be sufficient.

If you are *in* your house and someone asks you where you live, you can simply 
say "here".
If you are in town and someone asks, you must say "corner of blah and blah, 
number foo, zig zog avenue" 

This is exactly the same as paths to files:
When in the directory, you are *in* the files' house.
When in some other directory, you must specify the files' address (the path).

hth,

\d



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 18:28:06 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:28:06 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <49786C75.2090008@swbell.net>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gl97i0$uka$1@ger.gmane.org> <49786C75.2090008@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <200901221328.06702.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 7:54:13 am Billie Walsh wrote:

> Some D-Link routers can also be upgraded.
Mine, a DI 624, Dlink is on the UNsupported list.  I will check with Dlink to 
see if it can be upgraded.  Thanks!

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 18:32:03 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:32:03 -0500
Subject: AW: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <953308.37013.qm@web25404.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<953308.37013.qm@web25404.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901221332.04227.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 1:55:54 am Frank Mause wrote:
> ________________________________
>
>
> Hello steven,
>
> do you know the program "wine "?
>
> It does enabls you to use Win-programs.
>
> Cu.  Frank
>
>
> I have been watching a poker program on late night TV, 2am.  They suggest I
> can play for free with playmoney.  I downloaded the package, which is
> an .exe, but I don't know how to install it.  Can you help me.
>
> Steven

I do have wine, however, I may be missing some dependencies.  I am working on 
that right now.  I haven't use wine much, I think because of the file 
problems.  I am just learning the use of the command line, and it seems that 
there is where I will fix the problems.  I am getting some help right now.  
Thanks for the input.  It would be nice to use Wine more.  Thanks!
Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 18:36:45 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:36:45 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <49787112.8080003@swbell.net>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220737.20048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49787112.8080003@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <200901221336.46009.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 8:13:54 am Billie Walsh wrote:

> in downtown areas or "tourist areas" to promote people coming to that area.
>
> All these places pay the internet bill to get people to come spend their
> money. SO, No, your ISP can't charge you a connection fee when you use
> these services. Someone else already pays the fee.


When she mentioned having to purchase a wireless connection, I got the 
feeling, by something in her voice that she was scamming me on that issue.  I 
think this is because I live within the hot spot area and they want the 
monthly fee.  I am going to persue the situation until I am sure I can't take 
advantage of the service.  Thanks for the input.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 18:48:30 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:48:30 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <dkam46-f6o.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220737.20048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<dkam46-f6o.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <200901221348.31025.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 8:58:05 am Derek Broughton wrote:

> using a "Hotspot" system, which in various ways meters your usage and bills
> you.

Apparently I am in the Dayton Hotspot area.  And, I won't steal service 
knowingly ever.  Nonetheless, in the past months, I have been conserving 
water in every way possible because I live on a low fixed income, so I know 
my comsumption is way down, and I just got a 50% increase in my bill, 
claiming I am using more water.  I am embarrassed to say that I have been 
even flushing every other time to save water and don't have any leaks, so I 
know they just raised the prices to meet their needs.

In my case it is unfair.  Each year I get a small adjustment in my income. It 
amounts to about $8 per month this year.  Food has gone up 30 to 40% if you 
eat real food, like fresh stuff and not packaged fat and sugar, and 
everything else is also increased.  The increase in the cost of food has 
already in two months taken up all of the annual increase that came in my 
social security.  The increase that the ISP was trying to make was 25%.  The 
only thing that hasn't gone up is my house payment.  So I am going to take 
advantage of the hot spot if I am able.

> You can connect to any signal you can find that is "open" - if your city
> provides "Free" wifi, then you can connect to it.  

I live in a low income neighborhood, the only signal I can see is the city's.

Thanks for the info.

Steven



From arnaud.bourree at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 18:49:02 2009
From: arnaud.bourree at gmail.com (Arnaud bourree)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:49:02 +0100
Subject: Enabled Wifi when there is no wire
In-Reply-To: <200901220910.57647.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <ac06429e0901220157o144d805bl3982fa98a4ee25e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901220910.57647.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <ac06429e0901221049g278d750bq17c986d2612f0c5b@mail.gmail.com>

What's imagine is more an automatic solution like register on eth0 up/down
events to disable/enable wifi

Arnaud

2009/1/22 Pastor JW <pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org>

> On Thursday 22 January 2009 1:57:51 am Arnaud bourree wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'd like to configure my laptop in order to only enable Wifi (eth1) when
> > there is no wire (eth0).
> > How can I do it?
>
> My laptop has a switch on it which turns off the wifi, so do my office
> people's laptops and also the printer.  Is this not a normal practice?   I
> actually turn off the wifi on my laptop to save battery life when it isn't
> in
> use.  My battery only lasts about five hours without recharging so I carry
> another charged battery for my laptop in case and of course invested in an
> automobile charger so I can plug the laptop in while driving from place to
> place.
>
>
> --
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From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Thu Jan 22 18:52:54 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:52:54 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <200901220737.20048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<lhuk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901220737.20048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901221352.55006.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>On Wednesday 21 January 2009 8:25:41 pm Derek Broughton wrote:
>> Steven Vollom wrote:
>> > I just tried to change my ISP to Cincinnati Bell, to get cheaper and
>> > faster
>> > service.  They told me that I could connect free to the downtown
>> > free-service, because I am in live in the area.  My laptop is broken ,
>> > but I
>> > have a router with antenna.  They said I would have to purchase their
>> > wireless service to connect to it.
>>
>> What part of "purchase" is "free"?
>>
>> Sounds like a scam to me.
>
>Here in Dayton, to promote the Downtown area, they have included free
> internet service.  It works pretty well.  Lots of people hang out downtown
> in the coffee shops with their computers and socialize becuase of it.  Lots
> of students in Dayton.  My studio is very close to the downtown area and is
> in the area of free service.  I am so stupid that I never thought of it
> before now.  Anyway my laptop broke a week after I purchased it; it was
> used so there was no recourse.  It never occurred to me to hook my PC to
> it.  I think that the service is probably not a part of the need.  I think
> that it was not figured when the City started the promotion and therefore
> has caused them to lose a lot of downtown service business.  Anyway, unless
> you have to have some code connection to a wireless service to make your
> laptop modem to connect, it makes sense that you could use it free without
> having service in the area you are located.
>
>When a person with a laptop goes on a business trip, is he charged
> connection fees when out of his home area?  Or is he able to connect to any
> available signal where he is currently located, eliminating the ISP from
> collecting a fee?  An interesting thought.

When I have gone on the road, the only thing I was ever charged for was the 
deposit on the little dlink radio the motels have that is pre-programmed for 
their service.  Plugs into the cat5 jack on the end of the lappy.  But I 
haven't ever paid that where I usually stay.  I just tell Cindy I need a 
radio and it comes over the counter.  Much easier than trying to figure out 
all the passwords and encryption so I can use the bcm-4318 in my lappy, and 
considerably more dependable than the linksys wifi router it connects to, it 
crashes at least 2x a day.  As for the connect fees, the motel covers that, 
either as part of the charge, or buried in it, so that is a wash.

A word of advice:  If you have to go by a wifi card for the pc, make sure it 
is an Atheros chipset based design, they are the only semi-friendly to linux 
folks around.  Brand names on the box generally don't mean a thing, so read 
the fine print carefully, or get return privileges.  The one I have here came 
in a NetGear box, a WG311T but that's old now & this stuff changes at about 
the same rate as our underwear.

You might have to make them open the box so you can read the label on the 
chipset, my box doesn't say a thing about it on the outside.

>Thanks for the input.  Enjoy the day.
>
>Steven



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
And ever has it been known that love knows not its own depth until the
hour of separation.
		-- Kahlil Gibran



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Thu Jan 22 19:02:16 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:02:16 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <49786C75.2090008@swbell.net>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gl97i0$uka$1@ger.gmane.org> <49786C75.2090008@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <200901221402.16612.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009, Billie Walsh wrote:
>On 01/22/2009 Eberhard Roloff wrote:
>>  I am using such a setup over here in germany and the WLan-Provider
>>  delivered my linksys wrt 54 router, which they beefed up with a
>>  special firmware for the prupose.
>
>Probably something like the DD-WRT firmware upgrade [
>http://www.dd-wrt.com/ ].  We usually buy a Linksys wireless router and
>install the new software. [ After the upgrade don't try to access with
>IE - it won't work *<]:o)  ]
>
>As I recall you have to reset the router to act as a client with the new
>software to act as needed.

That could also be called 'gateway' mode.

>To see what routers are supported and what software to use you can go to
>
>http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices
>
>Some D-Link routers can also be upgraded.

I believe some 'Buffalo's can be used also.  And of course there is the x86 
version of this software, somewhat fawncier than the ARM version, which is 
what I run on an old slow pc with 3 nics in it, but no drives.  None. It 
boots from a cf card in an adapter on the end of an ide cable, using about 11 
megs of the 265 meg cf card.  A 400mhz AMD K6-III cpu and 384 megs of ram in 
it (64 is plenty), configure it and forget it, 20,000 times more dependable 
than verizons DSL has been of late.  It has NEVER crashed.

>--
>Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Nice guys finish last.
		-- Leo Durocher



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 19:03:36 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:03:36 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick -- Yes! Get the path right.
In-Reply-To: <200901221731.54022.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220907.09783.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221731.54022.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901221403.36739.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 10:31:53 am Donn wrote:

> Steven, I spent a lot of time doing those diagrams for you. Lots of other
> people are also repeating themselves often. Please *take care* to type
> carefully, follow the few simple rules (like knowing where you are) and you
> should be 90% of the way to Linux bliss.
I am sorry.  I have so much that I am not sure of yet while working, I don't 
always check back to those pages.  It takes a while for me to remember things 
anymore.  In fact just remembering the things you sent is not a front lobe 
event yet.  I am getting better, though.  In a very short time, you can get a 
wall full of postits when you have my memory problem.  So each time you 
finish doing something, you have to read the entire wall and make a dicision 
what is most important to do next.  Pretty soon you are just reading the wall 
with no time to accomplish anything.  I am finding that the things I 
concentrate on over and over become anchored memory after a while.  So I just 
keep repeating the process until something holds.  If I offend you or make 
you think I haven't taken your hard work serious, it is not true.  I fear 
alsheimers anymore because the effort to hold a memory seems to be getting 
more difficult all the time.  But I am not giving up.  If you can forgive me, 
I promise to be as careful in referring back as properly as I am able.  
Thanks again for the wonderful help.  If you can avoid it don't age; it is 
not all it is cracked up to be, excepting the alternative.  Believe it or 
not, I am making great progress right now.

Steven




From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 19:04:42 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:04:42 -0500
Subject: New Releases of Kubuntu
Message-ID: <4978C34A.8000601@sbcglobal.net>

When is the next release of Ubuntu, past 8.10.
What is the latest kernel version in 8.10, Is it using kernel-2.6.27 yet?



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Thu Jan 22 19:04:46 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:04:46 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901220815.55453.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211743.37269.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901220815.55453.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901221404.46189.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:43:37 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
>> chmod a+x /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
>
>Hi Gene, it has been so long since I got the instruction above, I cannot
>remember what the instruction would do.  When I entered the command, it
>simply switched to a new line with the # there, indicating I was still in
>root.  Is the reason I did not see any activity take place because the file
>is already in the computer?  Would it normally have installed the package?
>
The operation, in that event, was a success.  So the file now becomes an 
executable file as far as its permissions are concerned.

>I am going to man chmod before I continue this thought.  Later.
>
>Steven



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
She won' go Warp 7, Cap'n!  The batteries are dead!



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Thu Jan 22 19:08:18 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:08:18 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed
	=?iso-8859-1?q?to=09run_some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901220823.18395.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211745.36895.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901220823.18395.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901221408.18771.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:45:36 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
>> And TBT Matt, one of the reasons I haven't used 'more' in years, simply
>> because 'less' is more, with lots more...
>
>I know this is going to seem really stupid of me, but when is it that you
> type in either the 'more' command or the 'less' command, and is it the only
> word typed into the command line at that time?
>
>Steven

Chuckle.  No, you generally need to also type, on the same line before hitting 
enter, the path to get you the file you want to read.  Example:

less /path/to/file ENTER
or if currently in that directory where the file resides, just:
less filename

Clearer now I hope.


-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
In a world without fences who needs Gates?



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 19:14:51 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:14:51 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <200901221352.55006.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<lhuk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<200901220737.20048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221352.55006.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4978C5AB.6010404@sbcglobal.net>

Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 22 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>   
>> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 8:25:41 pm Derek Broughton wrote:
>>     
>>> Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>       
>>>> I just tried to change my ISP to Cincinnati Bell, to get cheaper and
>>>> faster
>>>> service.  They told me that I could connect free to the downtown
>>>> free-service, because I am in live in the area.  My laptop is broken ,
>>>> but I
>>>> have a router with antenna.  They said I would have to purchase their
>>>> wireless service to connect to it.
>>>>         
>>> What part of "purchase" is "free"?
>>>
>>> Sounds like a scam to me.
>>>       
>> Here in Dayton, to promote the Downtown area, they have included free
>> internet service.  It works pretty well.  Lots of people hang out downtown
>> in the coffee shops with their computers and socialize becuase of it.  Lots
>> of students in Dayton.  My studio is very close to the downtown area and is
>> in the area of free service.  I am so stupid that I never thought of it
>> before now.  Anyway my laptop broke a week after I purchased it; it was
>> used so there was no recourse.  It never occurred to me to hook my PC to
>> it.  I think that the service is probably not a part of the need.  I think
>> that it was not figured when the City started the promotion and therefore
>> has caused them to lose a lot of downtown service business.  Anyway, unless
>> you have to have some code connection to a wireless service to make your
>> laptop modem to connect, it makes sense that you could use it free without
>> having service in the area you are located.
>>
>> When a person with a laptop goes on a business trip, is he charged
>> connection fees when out of his home area?  Or is he able to connect to any
>> available signal where he is currently located, eliminating the ISP from
>> collecting a fee?  An interesting thought.
>>     
>
> When I have gone on the road, the only thing I was ever charged for was the 
> deposit on the little dlink radio the motels have that is pre-programmed for 
> their service.  Plugs into the cat5 jack on the end of the lappy.  But I 
> haven't ever paid that where I usually stay.  I just tell Cindy I need a 
> radio and it comes over the counter.  Much easier than trying to figure out 
> all the passwords and encryption so I can use the bcm-4318 in my lappy, and 
> considerably more dependable than the linksys wifi router it connects to, it 
> crashes at least 2x a day.  As for the connect fees, the motel covers that, 
> either as part of the charge, or buried in it, so that is a wash.
>
> A word of advice:  If you have to go by a wifi card for the pc, make sure it 
> is an Atheros chipset based design, they are the only semi-friendly to linux 
> folks around.  Brand names on the box generally don't mean a thing, so read 
> the fine print carefully, or get return privileges.  The one I have here came 
> in a NetGear box, a WG311T but that's old now & this stuff changes at about 
> the same rate as our underwear.
>
> You might have to make them open the box so you can read the label on the 
> chipset, my box doesn't say a thing about it on the outside.
>
>   
>> Thanks for the input.  Enjoy the day.
>>
>> Steven
>>     
>
>
>
>   
Adding to that, these manufactures out here are changing chipsets in a 
model # that they put out previously, the version # is the only way you 
can tell what chipset was last put into a given Model.
So Model # 1241 ver.1 could have a different chipset  than in ver. 2  of 
Model #1241, this is where you have to check out
the Linux sites to see if there is a driver for your version #



From jonorland at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 19:39:25 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:39:25 +0100
Subject: New Releases of Kubuntu
In-Reply-To: <4978C34A.8000601@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4978C34A.8000601@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901221139i4ae201a0nbe1cc21a0ff39e18@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/22 Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net>:
> When is the next release of Ubuntu, past 8.10.
> What is the latest kernel version in 8.10, Is it using kernel-2.6.27 yet?
>

Next version is 9.04, thats april 2009. Latest kernel for 8.10 is:
~$ uname -a
Linux intrepid-amd9650 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 22:15:32 UTC
2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux

/ Jonas



From mdhirsch at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 19:58:23 2009
From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:58:23 -0700
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <49779C9D.70805@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211335.25986.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211447.34983.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<200901211631.27767.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49779C9D.70805@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0901221158i7cf89246g357c6d9ec1fea147@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Matthew Flaschen
<matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu> wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 2:47:34 pm David McGlone wrote:
>>
>>> it worked, you need to use the down arrow key to scroll down to the bottom
>>> or use page down button until you get to the bottom and accept the terms
>>> and it will install.
>>
>> I don't think so.  When I attempt to scroll down, it makes a boink sound.
>
> If you are using "more", I believe you need to scroll down by pressing
> enter, not the down arrow (I know this is unintuitive).  Any character
> but enter will result in the sound (system bell).  When you get to the
> end, pressing enter will exit more, and then presumably you will be
> prompted to agree to the EULA.

space bar works better.  Enter will scroll by one line, space by a page.

Michael



From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 22 20:12:55 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:12:55 +1100
Subject: re grub error 17 with Kubuntu 8.04 loading
Message-ID: <BLU143-W2301EBB793EA0DAC90B358CDCE0@phx.gbl>


anyone out there help??????????


I run dual boot xp pro and Kubuntu
I have backups to both these which have seperate drives the same
as the xp pro 80gb/Kubuntu 40gb.

 I cant boot my bkup drives to my win xp pro/Kubuntu  as with my dual boot I get error 17
as I have my backups loaded in a mobile racks
 
thru xp pro I have
drive c 80gb win xp pro
drive d 40gb linux(k)
drive e 80gb bkup xp pro
drive L 40 gb bkup linux(K)

both bkup's are in modbile racks that I can switch on/off when booting up
but now that I have grub with my dual boot whichever o/s I try to boot

to grub says error 17, but when I switched off the mobile racks its boot ok 
into either win xp pro/Kubuntu thru the grub, so then cant clone my 80gb xp pro,
but the linux will clone thru paragon drive copy 8 when in xp pro?????


ray

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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 20:33:39 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:33:39 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
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References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220823.18395.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901220546x6903bb0aidac00932cfcc422a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901221533.39850.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 8:46:29 am Jonas Norlander wrote:

> > I know this is going to seem really stupid of me, but when is it that you
> > type in either the 'more' command or the 'less' command, and is it the
> > only word typed into the command line at that time?

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From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 20:38:54 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:38:54 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed
	=?iso-8859-1?q?to=09run_some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <i0am46-fsn.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220823.18395.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<i0am46-fsn.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <200901221538.54709.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 8:47:30 am Derek Broughton wrote:

> Therefore:
> > less file.txt
>
> is equivalent to:
> > cat file.txt | less
>
> or even:
> > cat file.txt | less -
>
> (a single "-" often works in programs that don't normally read stdin to say
> that the input file _is_ stdin)
>
> I can't resist any longer: And that's more or less the whole thing...
>
> Once you've learned all this, then you get into file redirection...

You have me laughing.  Am I understanding you correctly:  when I want to know 
less or more of something, I just precede the entry with the word less?  That 
looks easier than the other two options.  I will have to think about the 
stdin thing.  That is still over my head.

I am going to google file direction to try to get a step ahead of where I am, 
more or less.

Thanks friend,

Steven





From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Thu Jan 22 20:39:52 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:39:52 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901220843.44907.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211745.36895.gene.heskett@verizon.net>	<4977A89D.7040509@gatech.edu>
	<200901220843.44907.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4978D998.8030803@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> The 'most' site is under construction.  I could not find any information in 
> how to use 'most'.

Try man most.  Basically, it can be used anytime more or less can be.  E.g.:

most foo.txt

or

command_with_lots_of_output | most

When most is running, you can type h too get online help

> Thanks.  It is installed though.  I couldn't find it 
> anywhere on the kmenu,

It's a console program, so it's not on the kmenu.

> so I will just have to remember it and try later for 
> the website.

The web page probably won't be updated any time soon.  The man page is a
better place to start.

Matt Flaschen



From ed.lau at mail.ee  Thu Jan 22 20:42:15 2009
From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:42:15 +0200
Subject: New Releases of Kubuntu
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901221139i4ae201a0nbe1cc21a0ff39e18@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4978C34A.8000601@sbcglobal.net>
	<b8d784880901221139i4ae201a0nbe1cc21a0ff39e18@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4978DA27.5080203@mail.ee>

>> When is the next release of Ubuntu, past 8.10.
>> What is the latest kernel version in 8.10, Is it using kernel-2.6.27 yet?
>>
> 
> Next version is 9.04, thats april 2009. Latest kernel for 8.10 is:
> ~$ uname -a
> Linux intrepid-amd9650 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 22:15:32 UTC
> 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux


intrepid-proposed repo gives you the 2.6.27-11.22 kernel



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Thu Jan 22 20:43:22 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:43:22 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <49788D57.4040407@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49779C9D.70805@gatech.edu>	<4977A058.1000200@gatech.edu>	<200901220807.50554.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49788D57.4040407@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4978DA6A.8090804@gatech.edu>

John Hubbard wrote:
> I want to say that space bar gives you one line at a time and return 
> gives you one page at a time.

No, it's the other way around.  Return gives you a line at a time, and
space gives you a page

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 20:44:51 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:44:51 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	=?iso-8859-1?q?run=09some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901220914.04407.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901212245.55002.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220914.04407.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <200901221544.52167.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

> the problem with this command is you seem to have misspelled the word
> "full". You typed jre-6ull when it should be jre-6full.
 Perhaps, but I don't remember anything but cut and pasting what was provided.

The installation tried to start with that command.  A window opened for choice 
of language.  When I clicked on install, the progress window sped into 
action, but stopped toward the end and stayed like it crashed.

Someone gave advice, and the command line said I was missing some stuff.  I 
can't remember it right now, but I posted the result and am waiting for his 
review.  I believe if I could input the missing files it would work.  I am 
confused how to include data into the wine environment and need help there.

What you say looks logical, though.

Thanks

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Thu Jan 22 20:50:23 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:50:23 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <200901221254.56010.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211719.33756.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4977B2A8.2070101@yahoo.com>
	<200901221254.56010.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4978DC0F.5070600@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> Apparently I am missing some stuff, here is what came up.  Additionally a box 
> opened requesting my language, so setup seems to be trying to function.:

Yes, that means you got the paths right.  However, if the program does
not successfully install, that is likely just because wine does not have
perfect compatibility.  The fixme messages are just notes about features
currently unimplemented in wine; don't bother trying to understand them.

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 20:58:00 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:58:00 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	=?iso-8859-1?q?run=09some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <49788CEA.2090004@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220815.55453.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49788CEA.2090004@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901221558.00703.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 10:12:42 am John Hubbard wrote:
> > ls -l /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin

steven at Studio25:~$ ls -l /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
-rwxr-xr-x 1 steven steven 20106959 2009-01-21 12:37 /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
steven at Studio25:~$

Another poster said that it should read '6full', but I don't remember anything but cutting and pasting the information, so is that correct or just logical?

I just went to a shell that I had entered correctly for installation, I believe.  It explained the need for some files.  I copied what was written and sent it to the person who was helping me.  It kept repeating a task over and over.  I was away from that shell for an hour or more.  I went back because of your current advice to see what was missing.  By now there were so many attempts at repeating the selfsame data, that I couldn't even return to the beginning of the command to see the mission files.  I shut it off immediately because I wondered if it was using up disk space and could run me out of disk.

If you understand my explanation in the previous paragraph, please tell me what to do.

I think I know the proper command to install the package using the shell, but I also think I am missing some necessary .dll files to complete the task.  I am unsure how to get those files and then how to put them into the wine program.

Steven
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From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Thu Jan 22 20:59:14 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:59:14 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <gl97i0$uka$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49777A91.8090608@gatech.edu>
	<gl97i0$uka$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4978DE22.4050205@gatech.edu>

Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> for this, the router imho strictly does NOT have to act as a bridge.

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_bridge) defines
wireless bridge as: "a hardware component used to connect two or more
network segments (LANs or parts of a LAN) which are physically and
logically (by protocol) separated."

This is what we have here.  The full configuration works like this:

A<->B<->C<->D

A-City wired router
B-City wireless router
C-Steven's wireless bridge client
D-Steven's wired card

A-B is one network segment, and C-D is another.  The bridge connects the
two.  Steven needs to procure a device C that can act as the client side
of the bridge (the server side of the bridge is an ordinary wireless
router).

> So the router needs to route from wirless to wired and vice versa, not 
> to bridge anything.

The bridge is between the two segments, A-B and C-D.

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 21:04:30 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:04:30 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <49789287.4080303@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220914.04407.d.mcglone@att.net> <49789287.4080303@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901221604.31240.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 10:36:39 am John Hubbard wrote:
> chmod a+x ~/Des

steven at Studio25:~$ ls -l /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
-rwxr-xr-x 1 steven steven 20106959 2009-01-21 
12:37 /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x ~/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586
chmod: cannot access `/home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586': No such file 
or directory
steven at Studio25:~$

I believe I did as you suggest.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 21:07:23 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:07:23 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <49779FD3.3090504@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211713.09033.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49779FD3.3090504@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901221607.23818.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:21:07 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> wine ./FullTiltSetup.exe

steven at Studio25:~$ cd /home/steven/.wine/drive_c/
steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$ cd downloads
bash: cd: downloads: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$ cd FullTiltSetup
bash: cd: FullTiltSetup: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$ wine ./FullTiltSetup.exe
wine: cannot find './FullTiltSetup.exe'
steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 21:17:36 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:17:36 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <4977B2A8.2070101@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211719.33756.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4977B2A8.2070101@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901221617.36457.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 6:41:28 pm John Hubbard wrote:
> >wine ~/Desktop

steven at Studio25:~$ cd /home/steven/.wine/drive_c/
steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$ cd downloads
bash: cd: downloads: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$ cd FullTiltSetup
bash: cd: FullTiltSetup: No such file or directory
steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$ wine ./FullTiltSetup.exe
wine: cannot find './FullTiltSetup.exe'
steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$ >wine ~/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe
bash: /home/steven/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe: Permission denied
steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$

What is the Permission denied about?

Steven




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 21:19:26 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:19:26 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <4977B2A8.2070101@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211719.33756.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4977B2A8.2070101@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901221619.26893.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 6:41:28 pm John Hubbard wrote:
> >wine ~/Desktop

Desktop                        Music
disks.txt                      My eBooks
Documents                      MyFriendsAddresses.ldif
eBayISAPI.dll_files            nohup.out
eBayISAPI.dll.html             PDF
epayconfirmpayment.aspx_files  Personal Address Book.ldif
epayconfirmpayment.aspx.html   Personal Address Book.vcf.ldif
e-Sword                        Pictures
image001.jpg                   Public
JackAvatar.xcf                 sdb3
jre1.6.0_11                    space_report.txt
media                          Templates
<mount point>                  Tim.doc
mozilla.pdf                    xorg.conf
steven at Studio25:~$ de Desktop
bash: de: command not found
steven at Studio25:~$ ls
Desktop                        Music
disks.txt                      My eBooks
Documents                      MyFriendsAddresses.ldif
eBayISAPI.dll_files            nohup.out
eBayISAPI.dll.html             PDF
epayconfirmpayment.aspx_files  Personal Address Book.ldif
epayconfirmpayment.aspx.html   Personal Address Book.vcf.ldif
e-Sword                        Pictures
image001.jpg                   Public
JackAvatar.xcf                 sdb3
jre1.6.0_11                    space_report.txt
media                          Templates
<mount point>                  Tim.doc
mozilla.pdf                    xorg.conf
steven at Studio25:~$ cd
steven at Studio25:~$ pwd
/home/steven
steven at Studio25:~$  

I don't see the FullTiltSetup.exe mentioned.  It is there, on the screen.

I am confused.

Steven                                        



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Thu Jan 22 21:27:51 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:27:51 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <200901221617.36457.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211719.33756.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4977B2A8.2070101@yahoo.com>
	<200901221617.36457.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4978E4D7.1080205@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$ >wine ~/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe
> bash: /home/steven/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe: Permission denied

You have a typo.  Remove the > to get:

wine ~/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe

However, wine may not fully support the program.

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 21:32:52 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:32:52 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <4977E01E.5080406@swbell.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<3dde113c0901211601v383c8064h4515245a97502a52@mail.gmail.com>
	<4977E01E.5080406@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <200901221632.53019.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 9:55:26 pm Billie Walsh wrote:
> John DeCarlo wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Steven Vollom
> > <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net <mailto:stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     I have been watching a poker program on late night TV, 2am.  They
> >     suggest I
> >     can play for free with playmoney.  I downloaded the package, which is
> >     an .exe, but I don't know how to install it.  Can you help me.
> >
> >
> > You don't need the command line, if you find that confusing.
> >
> > Click on "FullTiltPoker.exe"  - if "Wine" is installed, it will invoke
> > it and install it for you. 

I have left the post untrimmed to keep everything available.  I have answered 
this before, but I am not sure I am understood.

When I click on FullTiltSetup.exe, it attempts to install.  First a window 
appears to provide the language to be used.  When I click OK on that choice, 
the program trys to install.  A progress window opens and goes mostly to the 
end and stops.  It stops like it is frozen or like a crash.

I have been responding to so many different entries on this problem that I am 
confused how to get back to an important piece of help.  I will try to share 
what I remember.  I was presented with some code that was supposed to execute 
the package using a shell.  Immidiately the computer suggested that some 
files were missing including some .dll's.  Then the computer continued to try 
to execute something, about four lines of information that just repeated over 
and over.  It appeared to stop, so I copied and pasted the information and 
replied to sender.  I then went to work on other things.  I returned about an 
hour or more later and found that that repeating of the four lines had 
continued and that the list almost had no end.  I was worried about using too 
much disk space, so I closed the shell to stop it.  By doing so, I lost the 
identity of the missing .dll's and other missing files.  

I think I am missing necessary files to make wine work properly.  I believe I 
understand the proper command to get the package installed providing the 
missing files are installed.  Because I am in a windows environment in wine, 
I am not confident how to get the missing files and then to install them.  
And right now, I don't know how to get back to the point where the missing 
files are mentioned.  Is this a problem you can help me with?

Steven

> > Then it should show up in your menu, under 
> > Wine.
> >
> > Or, to be safe, go into the installer and search on "wine" and install
> > it, if not installed.
> >
> >
> > --
> > John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own
> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500&ref=mf
> > <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500&ref=mf>
>
> Yes.
>
> In my experience with Windows programs if it is properly installed in
> WINE it will put an icon on your desktop.

The package is definately not installed
>
> Be aware that not all Windows programs will run in WINE [ winehq,org ].
> I've had some pretty good luck but................

I am optimistic that this package will install in wine, I just think I need to 
install some missing files.
>
> --
> Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.





From donn.ingle at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 21:45:53 2009
From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:45:53 +0200
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <200901221619.26893.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4977B2A8.2070101@yahoo.com>
	<200901221619.26893.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901222345.53838.donn.ingle@gmail.com>

On Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:19:26 Steven Vollom wrote:
> I don't see the FullTiltSetup.exe mentioned.  It is there, on the screen.
cd ~/Desktop
ls

\d



From donn.ingle at gmail.com  Thu Jan 22 21:52:51 2009
From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:52:51 +0200
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901221604.31240.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49789287.4080303@yahoo.com>
	<200901221604.31240.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901222352.51705.donn.ingle@gmail.com>

On Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:04:30 Steven Vollom wrote:
> steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x ~/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586
You left out the .bin at the end.

The name is the name is the name
every character always the same.

:D

\d



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 21:52:27 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:52:27 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <4977E01E.5080406@swbell.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<3dde113c0901211601v383c8064h4515245a97502a52@mail.gmail.com>
	<4977E01E.5080406@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <200901221652.28113.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 9:55:26 pm Billie Walsh wrote:

> > John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own
> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500&ref=mf

This is a very sad post.  I don't understand why it was included, but I will 
pray for those involved.  He seemed such a wonderful boy.  Many times in my 
live I have lived in a way that doesn't deserve the life the boy should have 
had.  It is difficult to understand why.  But according to my beliefs, if he 
was a Christian, it is a reward, for living on this earth, especially under 
the conditions which we live, it is not a difficult choice between here and 
paradise.  And I still love my life here.  My concern is for those who are 
grieving, and I can't do much but pray for them.  I will.  I am very sorry 
for your loss.
> > <http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500&ref=mf>
>
> Yes.
>
> In my experience with Windows programs if it is properly installed in
> WINE it will put an icon on your desktop.

Right now, I am not sure if Wine is properly installed.  I keep updating my 
computer, so if things are missing, I don't know why.
>
> Be aware that not all Windows programs will run in WINE [ winehq,org ].
> I've had some pretty good luck but................

I am also aware of that, however, it tried to install when I knew from another 
attempt indicated missing files, that the missing files are the probable 
reason.  The package is not a necessary thing, and I don't even gamble.  I 
just got interested in the play when I saw a TV program about it.  I am 
always alone and thought it might be a way to spend a little time.
>
> --
> Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 22:19:44 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:19:44 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <49789643.5080108@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220905.01730.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49789643.5080108@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901221719.44985.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I may have it right now.  Here is the result you all have been trying to get 
into my rock-hard brain.  Sorry, but I think I only have about two electrons 
spinning in my brain, and they don't make contact very often.  Look at this:

steven at Studio25:~$ cd ~/Desktop
steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$ wine FullTiltSetup.exe
fixme:midi:OSS_MidiInit Synthesizer supports MIDI in. Not yet supported.

Is there a work-around for this, or does that finish it.  You guys are so 
amazing to have such patience with me.  When I finally figure out what I did 
that is stopping forward progress, I am stunned by your patience.

It is like me checking my sum of numbers and wrongly repeating myself in my 
mind saying 2+2=5 and making the same mistake over and over, because I don't 
realize I am repeating the same mistake.  Sorry!

Thank you.
Steven





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 23:01:45 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:01:45 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <49789643.5080108@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220905.01730.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49789643.5080108@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901221801.45404.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 10:52:35 am John Hubbard wrote:

> As I think I said in my other (rather lengthy post) wine is 'in your
> path' and the shell will find it. You should cd to the location of
> FullTiltSetup.exe. Then type
>
>  > wine FullTiltSetup.exe

steven at Studio25:~$ cd ~/Desktop
steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$ wine FullTiltSetup.exe
fixme:midi:OSS_MidiInit Synthesizer supports MIDI in. Not yet supported.
fixme:reg:GetNativeSystemInfo (0x3228ac) using GetSystemInfo()

I chose English, next the installation started to proceed.  It froze on the 
second progress window.  Is there any work around for the fixme comments?

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 23:13:19 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:13:19 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine? "Not
	resolved but taken to another Forum"all solutions same none work
In-Reply-To: <4978AE33.9080303@swbell.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220907.09783.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4978AE33.9080303@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <200901221813.20218.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 12:34:43 pm Billie Walsh wrote:
> If WINE is installed and working properly just pop open Dolphin,
> navigate to where the file, fulltiltsetup.exe, is located and double
> click the file. Follow the instructions in the setup.
Hi Billie,

This is a new way for me to try the same thing.  It didn't work.  It started 
to install and went trough one progress window and stopped near the end of 
the second progress window.  There it behaves like it has crashed.  When 
attempting to install using the shell, there are two fixit's mentioned.  I 
have been inquiring around to see if there is a work around.  A similar need 
was indicated by a gamer for a video game, but not for FullTiltSetup.  As you 
are aware, I cannot communicat with gurus, so I guess I will have to give up 
as far as the List is concerned and bang my head against the gamer gurus.

I am pretty sure it is worth the trouble just for what I learn in the process.

Thanks for your contributions.

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 23:25:32 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:25:32 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <4978C5AB.6010404@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221352.55006.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<4978C5AB.6010404@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901221825.32703.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Adding to that, these manufactures out here are changing chipsets in a
> model # that they put out previously, the version # is the only way you
> can tell what chipset was last put into a given Model.
> So Model # 1241 ver.1 could have a different chipset  than in ver. 2  of
> Model #1241, this is where you have to check out
> the Linux sites to see if there is a driver for your version #

Thanks Jim, I will follow your instruction. 

STeven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 22 23:30:30 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:30:30 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <4978DE22.4050205@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gl97i0$uka$1@ger.gmane.org> <4978DE22.4050205@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901221830.30508.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 3:59:14 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:

> This is what we have here.  The full configuration works like this:
>
> A<->B<->C<->D
>
> A-City wired router
> B-City wireless router
> C-Steven's wireless bridge client
> D-Steven's wired card

> > So the router needs to route from wirless to wired and vice versa, not
> > to bridge anything.

> Matt Flaschen

You are so smart and I am so limited, do you think my router is a server?  
Dlink DI 624.  If so, what I want is a client side router.  If I googled what 
I need, what would I ask for?  A client side router?

Steven





From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Thu Jan 22 23:37:18 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:37:18 -0600
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
	"Not	resolved but taken to another Forum"all solutions same none work
In-Reply-To: <200901221813.20218.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901220907.09783.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4978AE33.9080303@swbell.net>
	<200901221813.20218.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4979032E.4050407@swbell.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Thursday 22 January 2009 12:34:43 pm Billie Walsh wrote:
>   
>> If WINE is installed and working properly just pop open Dolphin,
>> navigate to where the file, fulltiltsetup.exe, is located and double
>> click the file. Follow the instructions in the setup.
>>     
> Hi Billie,
>
> This is a new way for me to try the same thing.  It didn't work.  It started 
> to install and went trough one progress window and stopped near the end of 
> the second progress window.  There it behaves like it has crashed.  When 
> attempting to install using the shell, there are two fixit's mentioned.  I 
> have been inquiring around to see if there is a work around.  A similar need 
> was indicated by a gamer for a video game, but not for FullTiltSetup.  As you 
> are aware, I cannot communicat with gurus, so I guess I will have to give up 
> as far as the List is concerned and bang my head against the gamer gurus.
>
> I am pretty sure it is worth the trouble just for what I learn in the process.
>
> Thanks for your contributions.
>
> Steven
>
>   
It may be something that the program requires from Windows that WINE 
can't provide. I've found a few that do pretty much the same thing your 
talking about. It usually doesn't matter to much because I keep a 
Windows machine for those things that I can't do in Linux.

WINE today does a _MUCH_ better job than it did just a couple years ago 
so in time...........

-- 
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.




From d.mcglone at att.net  Thu Jan 22 23:57:12 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:57:12 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <49789287.4080303@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220914.04407.d.mcglone@att.net> <49789287.4080303@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901221857.12390.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 10:36:39 am John Hubbard wrote:
> David McGlone wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 January 2009 10:45:54 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> >> steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$ chmod a+x
> >> /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin chmod: cannot access
> >> `/home/steven/Desktop/jre-6ull-linux-i586.bin': No such file or
> >> directory steven at Studio25:~/Desktop$
> >
> > the problem with this command is you seem to have misspelled the word
> > "full". You typed jre-6ull when it should be jre-6full.
>
> Thanks for pointing that out David. The binary that he wants to install
> is for the java runtime environment version 6 update 11. This becomes
> truncated to jre-6u11. Note the number 1 not the letter l. I think that
> this is part of Steven's problem. My suggestion would be for him to type
>
>  > chmod a+x ~/Des[press the tab key] (this will auto complete Desktop
>
> and then finish...
>
>  > chmod a+x ~/Desktop/jre[press the tab key] (to auto complete the binary)
>  > chmod a+x ~/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin (then press enter.)

You're right. My bad. I do recall having change execute privileges in the past 
when I manually installed java. Now days I just apt-get the .deb.
-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From d.mcglone at att.net  Thu Jan 22 23:59:33 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:59:33 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <49788D57.4040407@yahoo.com>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220807.50554.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49788D57.4040407@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901221859.33115.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 10:14:31 am John Hubbard wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:23:20 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> >> Space bar also works, and scrolls a page at a time (enter scrolls a line
> >> at a time).
> >
> > Wow! Matt.  The spacebar does work.  Thanks.  But none of the other
> > suggestions, using the down arrows, etc. did not work on my computer. 
> > This is just great.  I can now put this one to bed.
> >
> > Steven
>
> I want to say that space bar gives you one line at a time and return
> gives you one page at a time. If it is a long document you might find
> that you prefer return.

Thats what I originally thought also, but I was wrong. It's been a while since 
I've had to do it, but it turns out it's the space bar that "turns the page" 
:-)

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From d.mcglone at att.net  Fri Jan 23 00:01:02 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:01:02 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <4978DA6A.8090804@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49788D57.4040407@yahoo.com> <4978DA6A.8090804@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901221901.03080.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 3:43:22 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> John Hubbard wrote:
> > I want to say that space bar gives you one line at a time and return
> > gives you one page at a time.
>
> No, it's the other way around.  Return gives you a line at a time, and
> space gives you a page

No it's the other way around, oh heck i'm all mixed up now. Pi** on it  I'll 
just install the .deb and be done with it. :-)

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From d.mcglone at att.net  Fri Jan 23 00:05:19 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:05:19 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed 
	=?iso-8859-1?q?to=09run_some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901220823.18395.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211745.36895.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901220823.18395.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901221905.19572.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 8:23:18 am Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:45:36 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
> > And TBT Matt, one of the reasons I haven't used 'more' in years, simply
> > because 'less' is more, with lots more...
>
> I know this is going to seem really stupid of me, but when is it that you
> type in either the 'more' command or the 'less' command, and is it the only
> word typed into the command line at that time?

 here's an example type:

ls /etc | less
or
ls /etc | more

and press the space bar to advance the page

when you reach the end of all the pages with the | less command you will need 
to press ctrl + z to exit back into a console.

Try it.

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From d.mcglone at att.net  Fri Jan 23 00:06:16 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:06:16 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed 
	=?iso-8859-1?q?to=09run_some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901221408.18771.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220823.18395.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221408.18771.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901221906.16730.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 2:08:18 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 22 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
> >On Wednesday 21 January 2009 5:45:36 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> And TBT Matt, one of the reasons I haven't used 'more' in years, simply
> >> because 'less' is more, with lots more...
> >
> >I know this is going to seem really stupid of me, but when is it that you
> > type in either the 'more' command or the 'less' command, and is it the
> > only word typed into the command line at that time?
> >
> >Steven
>
> Chuckle.  No, you generally need to also type, on the same line before
> hitting enter, the path to get you the file you want to read.  Example:
>
> less /path/to/file ENTER
> or if currently in that directory where the file resides, just:
> less filename
>
> Clearer now I hope.
>
>
> --
> Cheers, Gene
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> In a world without fences who needs Gates?

Wow, I've always piped it. never dawned on me to do it this way.
-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From d.mcglone at att.net  Fri Jan 23 00:14:40 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:14:40 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed 
	=?iso-8859-1?q?to=09run_some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901221538.54709.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<i0am46-fsn.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901221538.54709.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901221914.41025.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 3:38:54 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Thursday 22 January 2009 8:47:30 am Derek Broughton wrote:
> > Therefore:
> > > less file.txt
> >
> > is equivalent to:
> > > cat file.txt | less
> >
> > or even:
> > > cat file.txt | less -
> >
> > (a single "-" often works in programs that don't normally read stdin to
> > say that the input file _is_ stdin)
> >
> > I can't resist any longer: And that's more or less the whole thing...
> >
> > Once you've learned all this, then you get into file redirection...
>
> You have me laughing.  Am I understanding you correctly:  when I want to
> know less or more of something, I just precede the entry with the word
> less?  That looks easier than the other two options.  I will have to think
> about the stdin thing.  That is still over my head.
>
> I am going to google file direction to try to get a step ahead of where I
> am, more or less.

Given the way you tend to forget things, maybe less is best suited for you. 
;-)

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 23 00:42:03 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:42:03 -0500
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
In-Reply-To: <200901221830.30508.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<gl97i0$uka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4978DE22.4050205@gatech.edu>
	<200901221830.30508.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4979125B.5060404@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> If I googled what  I need, what would I ask for?  A client side router?

I would search on wireless bridge.  But it really doesn't matter what
you call it.  A rose by any other name...

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 23 00:44:43 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:44:43 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <200901221719.44985.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901220905.01730.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<49789643.5080108@yahoo.com>
	<200901221719.44985.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <497912FB.80603@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> Is there a work-around for this

Probably not.  It is a deficiency in wine itself.  You could try
upgrading wine, but realize that may not help at all.

Matt Flaschen



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 23 01:14:49 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:14:49 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901221604.31240.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901220914.04407.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<49789287.4080303@yahoo.com>
	<200901221604.31240.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49791A09.8090805@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Thursday 22 January 2009 10:36:39 am John Hubbard wrote:
>> chmod a+x ~/Des
> 
> steven at Studio25:~$ ls -l /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 steven steven 20106959 2009-01-21 

It's already executable.  You can run it now (though I recall you said
it was now unnecessary), by simply putting:

/home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin

at the command prompt.

Matt Flaschen




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 23 04:48:07 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:48:07 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed
	=?iso-8859-1?q?to=09run_some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901221914.41025.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221538.54709.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221914.41025.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <200901222348.08261.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


>
> Given the way you tend to forget things, maybe less is best suited for you.
See, I told you you were patient.  You are getting a reputation for being a 
nice guy.  I hope you can avoid this memory thing when you get older.  Not 
everyone gets the pleasure at my level.  Tripple thanks for the grind.

Steven



From jtwdyp at ttlc.net  Fri Jan 23 04:48:21 2009
From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:48:21 -0500
Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc 4.6.2-pre1 from kubuntu
 repo???
In-Reply-To: <200901181842.53513.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
	<200901020336.28031.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0901171232580.5878@localhost.localdomain>
	<200901181842.53513.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.10.0901222339330.27404@linux-8mzr.site>


It would appear that on Jan 18, Constantinos Maltezos did say:

> On Sunday 18 January 2009 4:16:41 pm Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > Since these same shortcuts do work in kubuntu if I run mc in one of
> > the 6 virtual consoles. But (in kubuntu) they don't work from an either
> > xterm or konsole, I have to think the problem isn't exactly with
> > "konsole" and/or "xterm", but rather some other aspect of how kubuntu
> > implements the gui must be interfering with these bindings...
> >
> > But I still don't have a clue how to fix it...
 
> I don't know if you have an rc file for mc, but if you do, check it carefully.  
> It might have special settings for running in X.  I know vi has some settings 
> like that.

That's a good suggestion. But the closest to an rc for mc that I'm
familiar with is ~/.mc/ini And I can't find anything like that there...
 
> Something else to try: if you run Kopete, try starting a conversation with 
> someone.  Type in a message and press ctrl+enter.  If it sends the message, 
> then perhaps it's something like your keyboard layout.  If it starts a new 
> line, then everything should be working properly.  If it does neither of these 
> things, it occurs to me to ask if you have your ctrl key set up as a modifier 
> for making special characters like with accents or umlauts over them.  If 
> that's the case, you might want to either change it or use the other ctrl key.

Ummm Kopete... That's one of those {gag} instant messaging tools
isn't it??? Got no use for it. Nor do I ever set up custom keyboard
layouts. I always select "us & english" for language and keyboard
configurations on installation. And then I don't mess with it.

> By the way, you've tried using both ctrl keys at different times, right?

Yeah, even though I don't mess with the keyboard layout, I've
occasionally found that some distro or other's default set-ups do treat
the right modifier keys differently than the left. So when a shortcut
doesn't work the first thing I try is the other matching modifier key.

> One last thing to try if all of the above is a waste: install another WM.  You 
> don't need Gnome.  Try WindowMaker - that's a cool one.  Or IceWM.  I believe 
> they're both in the package manager (I'm on a different machine at the moment, 
> or I'd check).  Then open xterm there and see if it works.  If it does, then 
> it's a setting in KDE.

Well maybe I should try to find another WM I can stand. But the main
reason I originally selected KDE (several years ago) was that I could
do almost everything without dusting of that {expletive deleted}
rodent. AND it was possible to change the default keyboard shortcuts
for ones that made sense to me... 

Would you happen to know of another WM that invests in the keyboard as a
primary input device?? 

Every time I look around I find that everything is supposed to be great
because of the "kool" way you just {censored} click on things to get
something done.


> If it doesn't, we go back to an X setting.  So if it 
> doesn't, could you post the keyboard section of xorg.conf here?

Well intrepid uses kde4 which has moved away from using the xorg.conf
file... But I get the same trouble with my hardy installation from
which I'll quote the keyboard section below. As far as intrepid goes
the best I know how to do this is to attach a snapshot of the Regional
& Language - System Settings >Keyboard Layout...

Or that is I would if kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com didn't say:
 
=>  Message body is too big: 178723 bytes with a limit of 40 KB

So instead I offer a link that should point to the image file for at
least the next month or so...

https://home.comcast.net/~jtwdyp/fileShuttle/IntrepidKeyboard.png

<And now this from the xorg.conf of my kubuntu 8.04.1 hardy install ...>

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Generic Keyboard"
        Driver          "kbd"
        Option          "XkbRules"      "xorg"
        Option          "XkbModel"      "pc105"
        Option          "XkbLayout"     "us"
EndSection

-- 
|    ^^^   ^^^
|    <o>   <o>	     Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|	 ^    		  J(tWdy)P
|	___	       <<jtwdyp at ttlc.net>>
|           
|      <sigh>

P.S.: I probably should confess that apparently I goofed when I said I
tested that the shortcut works in openSuSE's KDE environment. I don't
go there much and I must have tested it in a virtual console before I
knew that it might matter if the gui was up and running... It does
however work just fine in the KDE implemented by the Sabayon Linux
team. Which is currently my default boot choice (I can actually listen
to my music there... It's been a while since kubunto didn't fill up my
external speakers with too much background hiss to make it pleasurable
to sic kaffeine on my music file partition...) Kubuntu loads up quicker
for me however. So when I'm booting with only enough time to do some
task that I'm too focused on to want the gentle distraction of my
music, I usually boot kubuntu instead. Which is why this bugs me. I
spend just enough time using mc in Sabayon that the <ctrl>+<enter> &
<shift>+<ctrl>+<enter> shortcuts are so thoroughly second nature that
I windup having to reenter way too many incomplete command lines that
were executed by the shortcut with which I mearly intended to add a
pathname to it... <sigh>




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 23 05:04:53 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:04:53 -0500
Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc 4.6.2-pre1 from kubuntu repo???
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.10.0901222339330.27404@linux-8mzr.site>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
	<200901181842.53513.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<alpine.LNX.1.10.0901222339330.27404@linux-8mzr.site>
Message-ID: <200901230004.53723.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

Much as I would like, it is very hard for me to contribute anything, but maybe 
I can here.  When you mentioned the 40 kb rule, that has been important for 
me to break from time to time getting help.  When I needed to send a screen 
print, I would send it to the private address of the poster.  That way you 
pass what you need to pass and don't offend the List.  I don't think that is 
a rule breaker.

Cudos,

Steven





From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 23 06:37:17 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:37:17 -0600
Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc 4.6.2-pre1 from kubuntu repo???
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.10.0901222339330.27404@linux-8mzr.site>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
	<200901181842.53513.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<alpine.LNX.1.10.0901222339330.27404@linux-8mzr.site>
Message-ID: <200901230037.18577.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 10:48:21 pm Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> Well maybe I should try to find another WM I can stand. But the main
> reason I originally selected KDE (several years ago) was that I could
> do almost everything without dusting of that {expletive deleted}
> rodent. AND it was possible to change the default keyboard shortcuts
> for ones that made sense to me...
>
> Would you happen to know of another WM that invests in the keyboard as a
> primary input device??

Sadly, no.  Although it's very possible that there's a window manager with 
which you can edit its keyboard shortcuts through an rc file.  I just don't 
remember off the top of my head.  But maybe FVWM does.  I do recall that FVWM 
has pretty good keyboard support.

> Every time I look around I find that everything is supposed to be great
> because of the "kool" way you just {censored} click on things to get
> something done.

I know what you mean.  I suggested the ones I did because they're small and 
would let you test the keystrokes without doing a bunch of setting up.  I 
didn't mean you should completely switch.  I myself wouldn't be able to give 
up my KDE for anything these days.

> > If it doesn't, we go back to an X setting.  So if it
> > doesn't, could you post the keyboard section of xorg.conf here?
>
> Well intrepid uses kde4 which has moved away from using the xorg.conf
> file... But I get the same trouble with my hardy installation from
> which I'll quote the keyboard section below. As far as intrepid goes
> the best I know how to do this is to attach a snapshot of the Regional
> & Language - System Settings >Keyboard Layout...
>
> Or that is I would if kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com didn't say:
>
> =>  Message body is too big: 178723 bytes with a limit of 40 KB
>
> So instead I offer a link that should point to the image file for at
> least the next month or so...
>
> https://home.comcast.net/~jtwdyp/fileShuttle/IntrepidKeyboard.png

I see that you have keyboard layouts disabled.  I'm very sure you've tried 
this, but I'll ask anyway: have you tried enabling them?  Don't add anything 
and take the check mark off of the flag icon thing, but if you haven't tried 
it, it might be worth it.



From kassube at gmx.net  Fri Jan 23 06:47:56 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:47:56 +0100
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed
	=?iso-8859-1?q?to=09run_some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901221905.19572.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220823.18395.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221905.19572.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <200901230747.56843.kassube@gmx.net>

David McGlone wrote:
> when you reach the end of all the pages with the | less command you
> will need to press ctrl + z to exit back into a console.

I prefer "q" instead of Ctrl-Z because the latter leaves a stopped less 
process in the background - you can continue the less process later with 
the "fg" command. You can stop (nearly) every shell command with Ctrl-Z 
and continue it later.


Nils



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Fri Jan 23 08:25:33 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:25:33 +0100
Subject: html mail (was: Re: How do I install a .bin...]
In-Reply-To: <200901220804.21616.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211623.15650.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211721.32228.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901220804.21616.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <glbutu$i6l$1@ger.gmane.org>

Steven Vollom wrote:
 > On Wednesday 21 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:

Dear Steven,

please be so kind and switch off HTML-Mail.

Your answers come in a "nicely styled and coloured font" and on my PC 
(thunderbird on Kubuntu 8.10,) the font size might be around 16 (way to 
large)

In case that it is just me, please accept my apologies.

Kind regards
Eberhard




From alain.muls at telenet.be  Fri Jan 23 08:44:16 2009
From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:44:16 +0100
Subject: Any LaTeX experts out here?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3019.1232647181.6754.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.3019.1232647181.6754.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <200901230944.16687.alain.muls@telenet.be>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 18:59:41 kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com 
wrote:
> Tycho Andersen wrote:
> > I recently wrote and submitted my first academic paper (hooray!). I've
> > installed and been using the texlive-full to do this. I used pdftex as
> > my compiler while writing the paper, but now I would like to post DVI
> > and PS files on my web page so that people can download it in the
> > format they prefer.
> >
> > I've changed everything necessary to compile a DVI, and it compiles
> > fine and I've verified the output, so that's good. However, when I run
> > dvi2ps to try and convert, I get the following output:
> >
> > tycho at mittens:~/www/pubs/inss2009$ dvi2ps inss2009.dvi
> >
> > dvi2ps: FATAL-- cannot open fontdesc file "bikan-mor2"
>
> I'd try first with pslatex in order to compile directly to a ps. Anyway,
> from personal experience, not all latex packages will like that the
> output is ps instead of pdf (especially true for graphicx), so beware of
> the dragons.
> HTH,
> I.
>
> > Google yeilds nothing useful (rather, nothing in my only language
> > English). Is the (K)Ubuntu package missing this file?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Tycho

Hi

I use "rubber" (apt-get install rubber) for compiling latex files. It allows 
you to compile to postscript or to pdf using the commands:

rubber --ps main.tex
rubber --pdf main.tex

It is also very handy for automatically converting your graphics files to a 
format recognized, eg. I make graphics using xfig and the conversion to 
pdf/pdf_t or pstex_t/pstex is handled by rubber.

bye/Alain


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From pewtas at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 09:36:59 2009
From: pewtas at gmail.com (Peter Williams)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:36:59 +0000
Subject: HELP NEEDED - Kubuntu 8.04 will not boot to login screen. What do I 
	do now???
Message-ID: <bb1c4c350901230136g6296989em56c5c2e87a0b9d20@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Ubuntu people,

nb -- I will happily provide system specs as requested and if I can figure
out how to find them out. My computer is an extremely new and fast computer.
It has Dual Core Processor (not sure what speed), 4 Gigabytes of memory and
a one terabyte HDD.

I urgently need help to fix my computer. I have previously had Kubuntu 8.04
installed and it seemed to be working okay. Then I decided that I did not
want to use KDE 4 and only use the Gnome Desktop Manager with KDE 3.5. I
used the Synaptic Package Manager to remove much of the KDE 4 with the
intention of keeping KDE 3.5 and using the Gnome Desktop Manager.

I am currently booted from a Mint Linux 5.1 Live Boot CD-ROM and that is
allowing me to access the internet (as you can see) and I can send emails.

If I boot my computer WITHOUT the Mint Linux 5.1 Live Boot disk -- then I
get dumped at the terminal login screen for Kubuntu 8.04 (I think). The
terminal login screen confuses me no-end.... This is undoubtedly because I'm
a Linux Beginner and I still have problems with the commands. I still cannot
get the hang of using the 'man' command!!!! ;-(

Previously, I have had my pc working fine with different Linux OSes. I do
NOT use Micro$oft Windowz of ANY version and I honestly don't want to even
consider installing Windoze.

I read on some website (???) to do the following:

quote: ---

System Settings / Advanced / Autostart -- click Add Program. Type in
nm-applet which is the Gnome one. From then on it should start with the KDE
Session.

----end quote.

This means nothing it mean and it's all double-dutch. ;-(

Earlier today I was very happy because I thought that I'd finally got
Kubuntu working okay. There was a problem that I had shit-loads of programs
installed -- probably too many... And the newer KDE 4 programs were
conflicting with the older KDE 3.5 programs.

I joined the ##beginner-help forum and #ubuntuforums-beginners -- however,
I've forgotten how to use pidgin (the messenger program I use) to access
these forums.

Would one of you lovely Ubuntu GURUs please help this poor Linux newbie?!?

I urgently need help to fix my computer. I have previously had Kubuntu 8.04
installed and it seemed to be working okay. Then I decided that I did not
want to use KDE 4 and only use the Gnome Desktop Manager with KDE 3.5. I
used the Synaptic Package Manager to remove much of the KDE 4 with the
intention of keeping KDE 3.5 and using the Gnome Desktop Manager.

I am currently booted from a Mint Linux 5.1 Live Boot CD-ROM and that is
allowing me to access the internet (as you can see) and I can send emails.

If I boot my computer WITHOUT the Mint Linux 5.1 Live Boot disk -- then I
get dumped at the terminal login screen for Kubuntu 8.04 (I think).

Previously, I have had my pc working fine with different Linux OSes. I do
NOT use Micro$oft Windowz of ANY version and I honestly don't want to even
consider installing Windoze.

I read on some website (???) to do the following:

quote:

System Settings / Advanced / Autostart -- click Add Program. Type in
nm-applet which is the Gnome one. From then on it should start with the KDE
Session.

end quote.

This means nothing it mean and it's all double-dutch. ;-(

Earlier today I was very happy because I thought that I'd finally got
Kubuntu working okay. There was a problem that I had shit-loads of programs
installed -- probably too many... And the newer KDE 4 programs were
conflicting with the older KDE 3.5 programs.

I joined the ##beginner-help forum and #ubuntuforums-beginners -- however,
I've forgotten how to use pidgin (the messenger program I use) to access
these forums.

Would one of you lovely Ubuntu GURUs please help this poor Linux newbie?!?

Yours Optimistically and With Much Love,
PEW aka PetethePoet


Fond Regards,
Peter Eric (aka 'pew') WILLIAMS
from Hobart, Tasmania, Australia -- phone (03) 6236-9675

My free website is: http://pewtas.googlepages.com  (or)
http://tinyurl.com/yuyejs

(please visit my free website and let me know what you think about it.)

Emo Philips  - "I was sleeping the other night, alone, thanks to the
exterminator."

Yours Optimistically and With Much Love,
PEW aka PetethePoet


Fond Regards,
Peter Eric (aka 'pew') WILLIAMS
from Hobart, Tasmania, Australia -- phone (03) 6236-9675

My free website is: http://pewtas.googlepages.com  (or)
http://tinyurl.com/yuyejs

(please visit my free website and let me know what you think about it.)

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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Fri Jan 23 10:27:27 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:27:27 +0100
Subject: HELP NEEDED - Kubuntu 8.04 will not boot to login screen. What
	do I    do now???
In-Reply-To: <bb1c4c350901230136g6296989em56c5c2e87a0b9d20@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bb1c4c350901230136g6296989em56c5c2e87a0b9d20@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <glc62f$793$1@ger.gmane.org>

Peter Williams wrote:
> Hello Ubuntu people,
> 
> 
> I urgently need help to fix my computer. I have previously had Kubuntu 
> 8.04 installed and it seemed to be working okay. Then I decided that I 
> did not want to use KDE 4 and only use the Gnome Desktop Manager with 
> KDE 3.5. I used the Synaptic Package Manager to remove much of the KDE 4 
> with the intention of keeping KDE 3.5 and using the Gnome Desktop Manager.
> 
 > [...]
Hi Peter,

Try to login to the terminal with your username and password

Then get to be root
"sudo -i"
give your pasword, when asked for it.

Then start gdm
"gdm"

and see what happens. If gdm is missing, try
"apt-get install gdm"

you need to enter the commands given without the quotes.

finally, after gdm (or any other different displaymanager like kdm or 
xdm) is started you should see a graphical login screen a screen 7, 
which you can access via "ALT-F7" from the terminal that you are working 
from.

I hope this works
Please report back, what happens, so we are able to investigate further.

Good luck
Eberhard





From Herve at lucidia.net  Fri Jan 23 11:47:37 2009
From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?B?SGVydsOpIEZhY2hl?=)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:47:37 +0100
Subject: re grub error 17
In-Reply-To: <BLU143-W102DEF3EFB16A9E1E48F51CDD10@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU143-W4258C10682532243066DA1CDD50@phx.gbl>
	<4413284c0901190800l283d2fcfx4cdd42603dc09af5@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W4565AB415EB19BF2D3C65FCDD30@phx.gbl>
	<4413284c0901210504y3448cc20n5fa22b9b7b158015@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W43C0748CA73FC84D9BD2A5CDD10@phx.gbl>
	<4413284c0901211216h67169524w44a34764661c234b@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W102DEF3EFB16A9E1E48F51CDD10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4413284c0901230347t385794ehd034c39e239b7d20@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Ray,

I think I see the problem. Can you confirm that:
* /dev/sda is your Windows disk, with one partition: /dev/sda1 (called
BKUP_MAN ???)
* /dev/sdb is your Kubuntu disk, with several partitions
* /dev/sdh is your backup disk, with one partition: /dev/sdh1 (called
BKUP_MAN-1)
* you do not have a backup of Kubuntu

As I see it:
* /dev/sdh (the full disk) is the backup of /dev/sda, including the boot
record, where grub is.
* grub looks for its startup files on /dev/sdb
* when you boot with the backup disk connected, the BIOS boots the backup
disk, with the broken grub

Or:
* the BIOS sees the backup disk (when present at boot) as the second hard
disk, and GRUB therefore looks for its files in the wrong place (/dev/sdh
instead of /dev/sdb).

One thing is sure: you'd be better off with grub on /dev/sdb, so all
Linux-related stuff remains together. You'd then have to tell your BIOS to
boot from your Linux disk instead of the Windows one. IOW, tell you BIOS to
boot from the slave disk on the primary controller. But this requires a bit
of fidling with grub on the command line, which is not for the faint of
heart!

Otherwise, tell your BIOS to not probe for USB disks if that is possible.

Of course I could be wrong!
Hervé

2009/1/22 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>

>  Herve I am in K,
>
> I booted up with the k live cd, and once up then turned on the external usb
> disk drive
> and did a $df -h  and a $df /boot see below
> **********************************************************************
>  rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df -h
> Filesystem            Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sdb1              18G  7.6G  9.0G  46% /
> varrun                474M  160K  474M   1% /var/run
> varlock               474M     0  474M   0% /var/lock
> udev                  474M   88K  474M   1% /dev
> devshm                474M     0  474M   0% /dev/shm
> lrm                   474M   38M  437M   8%
> /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile
> /dev/sdb2              19G  6.2G   13G  34% /home
> /dev/sda1              75G   39G   36G  52% /media/BKUP MAN
> /dev/sdh1              75G   37G   38G  50% /media/BKUP MAN-1
> rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df /boot
> Filesystem           1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sdb1             1 rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df -h
> Filesystem            Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sdb1              18G  7.6G  9.0G  46% /
> varrun                474M  160K  474M   1% /var/run
> varlock               474M     0  474M   0% /var/lock
> udev                  474M   88K  474M   1% /dev
> devshm                474M     0  474M   0% /dev/shm
> lrm                   474M   38M  437M   8%
> /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile
> /dev/sdb2              19G  6.2G   13G  34% /home
> /dev/sda1              75G   39G   36G  52% /media/BKUP MAN
> /dev/sdh1              75G   37G   38G  50% /media/BKUP MAN-1
> rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df /boot
> Filesystem           1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sdb1             18034492   7909904   9397488  46% /
> rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$
> 8034492   7909904   9397488  46% /
> rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$
>
> *************************************************************************************
>
> so as you see the main xp pro is sda1 and the external usb is sdh1 and
> only have one boot on sdb1?????
> so await your advise
>
> ray
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:16:51 +0100
>
> Subject: Re: re grub error 17
> From: Herve at lucidia.net
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
> Hi Ray,
>
> 2009/1/21 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>
>
>  Herve,
>
> I am sorry as kost of my questions on the forum go astray!!!!!
>
> No worries :-)
>
>
>
> when I boot from the backup disk it just continually says gub, but this was
> a
> clonned copy thru ghost 3 of the main xp pro??
>
> I s'pose ghost did not just copy the disk... I actually don't know this
> program. I use dd which is not very beautiful being command line and all
> that, but does exactly what's written on the tin :-)
>
>
>
> do I do this $ df /boot when in K and with just my xp pro drive and linux
> drive?????
>
> Sorry, you'd do this from the command line (Konsole) in Kubuntu. Sorry
> again for my use of command line, I actually don't know the graphical tools
> though I know they exist.
>
> To copy the disks, I'd boot from a LiveCD of Kubuntu, so none of the hard
> disks are being used, then I'd make a bit-for-bit copy of my disks to the
> backup; that's what dd does.
>
> For example, when you start from the LiveCD, your main hard disk maybe
> /dev/sdc and your backup disk /dev/sdb, do you'd copy like so:
> $ dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb
>
> This means copy from input 'file' (if) /dev/sdc to output 'file' (of)
> /dev/sdb, and it preserves the boot record and partition table.
>
> You can also copy partitions the same way (after checking that destination
> >= source). For example:
> $ dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sdb4
>
> Good luck,
> Hervé
>
>
>
> ray
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:04:04 +0100
> Subject: Re: re grub error 17
> From: Herve at lucidia.net
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
> Hello Ray,
>
> Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal
> e-mail.
>
> I - Booting with the backup disks on
>
> If your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on,
> then my guess is that you have two grubs:
> * one on the main hard drive (the one you want)
> * at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't)
> and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you
> probably know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section
> (its location depends on your BIOS).
>
> II - Error 17
>
> The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the
> partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example,
> Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and
> /dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this:
>
> $ df /boot
>
> which gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet):
> /dev/sda8             52506748   3838592  46000968   8% /
>
> I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of
> help.
> Hervé
>
>
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From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 11:57:35 2009
From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ulrich_Gr=FCn?=)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:57:35 +0100
Subject: Any LaTeX experts out here?
In-Reply-To: <49b3a7400901220857if9e9fcfs3dd3643ef1906af5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49b3a7400901220857if9e9fcfs3dd3643ef1906af5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <18bb29490901230357t414d9800pd7db5ff3c9e4a44e@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/22 Tycho Andersen <tycho at tycho.ws>:
> I recently wrote and submitted my first academic paper (hooray!). I've
> installed and been using the texlive-full to do this. I used pdftex as
> my compiler while writing the paper, but now I would like to post DVI
> and PS files on my web page so that people can download it in the
> format they prefer.
>
> I've changed everything necessary to compile a DVI, and it compiles
> fine and I've verified the output, so that's good. However, when I run
> dvi2ps to try and convert, I get the following output:

I won't use DVI. I think that PDF is the best format to publish to.
The files are rather small (compared to PS) and they are ready to
print.
I also write my academic papers with LaTeX (installed) and publish
them to the web (see
http://de.geocities.com/india_ulrich/Philosophie.html. They are all in
Dutch, but still LaTeX!!)

-- 
Namasté,
Ulrich
¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø

" Can't talk to you without talking to me; we're guilty of the same old thing.
        Thinking a lot about less and less, and forgetting the love we bring "
                                     [Grateful Dead, in: 'Althea']

¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø
de.geocities.com/india_ulrich/
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From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 12:01:46 2009
From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ulrich_Gr=FCn?=)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:01:46 +0100
Subject: Any LaTeX experts out here?
In-Reply-To: <18bb29490901230357t414d9800pd7db5ff3c9e4a44e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49b3a7400901220857if9e9fcfs3dd3643ef1906af5@mail.gmail.com>
	<18bb29490901230357t414d9800pd7db5ff3c9e4a44e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <18bb29490901230401w493db2a9te578899d1421b04d@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/23 Ulrich Grün <ulrich.gruen at gmail.com>:

> I won't use DVI. I think that PDF is the best format to publish to.
> The files are rather small (compared to PS) and they are ready to
> print.

I forgot to mention: most people have no use for PS files, since
acrobat reader cannot open PS files (we linux users have no problem
with that). They certainly cannot open DVI either.

-- 
Namasté,
Ulrich
¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø

" Can't talk to you without talking to me; we're guilty of the same old thing.
        Thinking a lot about less and less, and forgetting the love we bring "
                                     [Grateful Dead, in: 'Althea']

¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø
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http://de.geocities.com/india_ulrich/Philosophie.html



From d.mcglone at att.net  Fri Jan 23 12:52:37 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:52:37 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed 
	=?iso-8859-1?q?to=09run_some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901222348.08261.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221914.41025.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<200901222348.08261.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901230752.37460.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Thursday 22 January 2009 11:48:07 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> > Given the way you tend to forget things, maybe less is best suited for
> > you.
>
> See, I told you you were patient.  You are getting a reputation for being a
> nice guy.  I hope you can avoid this memory thing when you get older.  Not
> everyone gets the pleasure at my level.  Tripple thanks for the grind.

I said this in hopes you would chuckle. : -) 

Using linux can at times be very frustrating, and I've learned that being 
patient and having a laugh every now and then does help.

Even though I haven't been able to help much on some of your problems, I 
believe you will eventually learn. 

I would recommend one thing though, that is learning the very basics first. It 
seems you have thrown yourself in a little too far at first and now your 
slightly in over your head.

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From d.mcglone at att.net  Fri Jan 23 12:57:52 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:57:52 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed 
	=?iso-8859-1?q?to=09run_some_tests_by_the?= isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901230747.56843.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221905.19572.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<200901230747.56843.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901230757.53028.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Friday 23 January 2009 1:47:56 am Nils Kassube wrote:
> David McGlone wrote:
> > when you reach the end of all the pages with the | less command you
> > will need to press ctrl + z to exit back into a console.
>
> I prefer "q" instead of Ctrl-Z because the latter leaves a stopped less
> process in the background - you can continue the less process later with
> the "fg" command. You can stop (nearly) every shell command with Ctrl-Z
> and continue it later.

Thanks. Thats something I didn't either know or forgotten, and more good 
advice for me to keep.

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan 23 17:29:58 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:29:58 -0400
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to	run
	some tests by the isp.
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220823.18395.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221408.18771.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<200901221906.16730.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <mdbp46-olp.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

David McGlone wrote:

>>
>> less /path/to/file ENTER
>> or if currently in that directory where the file resides, just:
>> less filename
> 
> Wow, I've always piped it. never dawned on me to do it this way.

It really is a minor use case.  The odds are that if you're actually wanting 
to browse a file, you'll open it in your choice of editor or browser.  So you 
mostly use it to make output from some other program more readable.





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan 23 17:33:53 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:33:53 -0400
Subject: Enabled Wifi when there is no wire
References: <ac06429e0901220157o144d805bl3982fa98a4ee25e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901220910.57647.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <1lbp46-olp.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Pastor JW wrote:

> On Thursday 22 January 2009 1:57:51 am Arnaud bourree wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'd like to configure my laptop in order to only enable Wifi (eth1) when
>> there is no wire (eth0).
>> How can I do it?
> 
> My laptop has a switch on it which turns off the wifi, so do my office
> people's laptops and also the printer.  Is this not a normal practice? 

Not for me...  My last laptop (and any one using a PC-card NIC, ime) didn't 
have a switch, but I rarely use the one on this laptop either.

> I
> actually turn off the wifi on my laptop to save battery life when it isn't
> in use.

It probably is a good idea, but I don't rely on my laptop batteries anyway.

> My battery only lasts about five hours

ONLY!!!!!  Luxury :-)  Never had a battery that good!






From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan 23 17:41:26 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:41:26 -0400
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<49777A91.8090608@gatech.edu> <gl97i0$uka$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4978DE22.4050205@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <73cp46-7fq.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Matthew Flaschen wrote:

> This is what we have here.  The full configuration works like this:
> 
> A<->B<->C<->D
> 
> A-City wired router
> B-City wireless router
> C-Steven's wireless bridge client
> D-Steven's wired card
> 
> A-B is one network segment, and C-D is another.  The bridge connects the
> two.  Steven needs to procure a device C that can act as the client side
> of the bridge (the server side of the bridge is an ordinary wireless
> router).
> 
>> So the router needs to route from wirless to wired and vice versa, not
>> to bridge anything.
> 
> The bridge is between the two segments, A-B and C-D.

That is simply a wireless client.  B-C is a normal wireless LAN.  The 
_bridge_ would actually be _in_ Steven's router - that is, between C and D 
(though there'll be a bridge between A & B, too, but we really aren't 
remotely concerned with A).  





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan 23 17:35:10 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:35:10 -0400
Subject: Enabled Wifi when there is no wire
References: <ac06429e0901220157o144d805bl3982fa98a4ee25e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901220910.57647.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<ac06429e0901221049g278d750bq17c986d2612f0c5b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <enbp46-olp.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Arnaud bourree wrote:

> What's imagine is more an automatic solution like register on eth0 up/down
> events to disable/enable wifi
> 
> Arnaud
> 
> 2009/1/22 Pastor JW <pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org>
> 
>> On Thursday 22 January 2009 1:57:51 am Arnaud bourree wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I'd like to configure my laptop in order to only enable Wifi (eth1)
>> > when there is no wire (eth0).
>> > How can I do it?

My experience is that NetworkManager always chooses wired over wire, and 
_should_ (but doesn't always) try to enable wifi whenever a wire is 
disconnected.





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan 23 17:46:07 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:46:07 -0400
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<gl97i0$uka$1@ger.gmane.org> <4978DE22.4050205@gatech.edu>
	<200901221830.30508.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4979125B.5060404@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <vbcp46-7fq.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Matthew Flaschen wrote:

> Steven Vollom wrote:
>> If I googled what  I need, what would I ask for?  A client side router?
> 
> I would search on wireless bridge.  But it really doesn't matter what
> you call it.  A rose by any other name...

Sure, but you're not talking about a "wireless bridge",  and roses have a 
vast variety of names.  A wireless bridge should be wireless on both sides 
of the bridge.  A wireless client is wireless on one side and wired on the 
other, which is what he wants

"The DI-624 is an access point and does not provide and other wireless 
functions (eg bridge, client, repeater).  ..."
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18913339-DI624-wireless-bridge





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan 23 17:52:40 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:52:40 -0400
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<lhuk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901220737.20048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221352.55006.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <9ocp46-7fq.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Gene Heskett wrote:

> A word of advice:  If you have to go by a wifi card for the pc, make sure
> it is an Atheros chipset based design, they are the only semi-friendly to
> linux folks around.  

That's not true.  I agree Atheros chipsets are (better than semi-) friendly 
to Linux, but so are Intels.  Broadcoms are now _semi-friendly_ (in fact, 
they're ubiquitous and I've never had a problem with one).

> Brand names on the box generally don't mean a thing, so
> read
> the fine print carefully, or get return privileges.  The one I have here
> came in a NetGear box, a WG311T but that's old now & this stuff changes at
> about the same rate as our underwear.

The fine print won't usually help - it's a rare box that tells you what 
chipset is used, and the manufacturer commonly changes the chipsets without 
making any change in the packaging, even to using any kind of identifying 
serial number.  Often your best bet is to google for the device and see what 
people say - and if some work, some don't, you probably need to identify 
specific serial number ranges.
> 
> You might have to make them open the box so you can read the label on the
> chipset, my box doesn't say a thing about it on the outside.

And at least one of mine (an Atheros) doesn't say anything, _anywhere_.





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan 23 17:55:41 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:55:41 -0400
Subject: Free Downtown Dayton Internet service.
References: <200901211354.33042.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<lhuk46-9ei.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901220737.20048.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220910.37890.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <ttcp46-7fq.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Pastor JW wrote:

> you pay dearly for their "free" services!   Those "free" services downtown
> are paid for by the customers of the coffee shops, wine tasting rooms
> (Walla Walla has more than 160 wineries today in a town of less than
> 20,000!),

Oh my!  If I visit Walla Walla, I _won't_ be taking my laptop.  Wine _is_ a 
sacrament :-)





From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 23 18:32:55 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:32:55 -0500
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
Message-ID: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>

Does anyone have the latest version of Kubuntu install on a Asus EEEpc 
1000, I'm mainly concerned about the
Ralink RT2970 Wireless card.
Does the Wireless have a driver for it ?



From cguilbert at picasso.ucsf.edu  Fri Jan 23 19:45:48 2009
From: cguilbert at picasso.ucsf.edu (Christophe Guilbert)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:45:48 -0800
Subject: Strigi is completely buggy , fill my HDD to 100%
Message-ID: <497A1E6C.9010303@picasso.ucsf.edu>

Hi there,
I have kubuntu 8.04
I was wondering why my HDD was filling up over time until it completely 
fill up my HDD. it turns out that Strigi literally put 170GB of files in 
the ./strigi/clucene folder. Strigi deamon take about 80% of my CPU time.
It is a known problem apparently and Strigi bug seems to be taking care 
of  (work in progress)
Meanwhile , what is the best way to have Strigi working or removed ?
The strange thing is that I have Kubuntu installed on two PC, Strigi is 
install on both , but it only work (the deamon) on one PC. I don't 
remember having turn explicitly Strigi on in one of them , how come one 
Kubuntu 8.04 PC is runing Strigi and not the other one  ?

Thanks of any help

Chris

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From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 23 20:17:49 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:17:49 +1100
Subject: re grub error 17
In-Reply-To: <4413284c0901230347t385794ehd034c39e239b7d20@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU143-W4258C10682532243066DA1CDD50@phx.gbl>
	<4413284c0901190800l283d2fcfx4cdd42603dc09af5@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W4565AB415EB19BF2D3C65FCDD30@phx.gbl>
	<4413284c0901210504y3448cc20n5fa22b9b7b158015@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W43C0748CA73FC84D9BD2A5CDD10@phx.gbl>
	<4413284c0901211216h67169524w44a34764661c234b@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W102DEF3EFB16A9E1E48F51CDD10@phx.gbl> 
	<4413284c0901230347t385794ehd034c39e239b7d20@mail.gmail.com>
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Herve I am in xp pro,
 
Yes that is right what you say below, and I already have a bkup of kubuntu
done when in xp pro I clonned thru paragon drive copy 8
as Ghost did not work?????
 
PS the main xp pro is on dev/sda1
the backup xp pro is on dev/sdh1
both have only one partition
 
hope this helps to find a resolution to my problem
ray



Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:47:37 +0100Subject: Re: re grub error 17From: Herve at lucidia.netTo: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.comHello Ray,I think I see the problem. Can you confirm that:* /dev/sda is your Windows disk, with one partition: /dev/sda1 (called BKUP_MAN ???)* /dev/sdb is your Kubuntu disk, with several partitions* /dev/sdh is your backup disk, with one partition: /dev/sdh1 (called BKUP_MAN-1)* you do not have a backup of KubuntuAs I see it:* /dev/sdh (the full disk) is the backup of /dev/sda, including the boot record, where grub is.* grub looks for its startup files on /dev/sdb* when you boot with the backup disk connected, the BIOS boots the backup disk, with the broken grubOr:* the BIOS sees the backup disk (when present at boot) as the second hard disk, and GRUB therefore looks for its files in the wrong place (/dev/sdh instead of /dev/sdb).One thing is sure: you'd be better off with grub on /dev/sdb, so all Linux-related stuff remains together. You'd then have to tell your BIOS to boot from your Linux disk instead of the Windows one. IOW, tell you BIOS to boot from the slave disk on the primary controller. But this requires a bit of fidling with grub on the command line, which is not for the faint of heart!Otherwise, tell your BIOS to not probe for USB disks if that is possible.Of course I could be wrong!Hervé
2009/1/22 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>

Herve I am in K,I booted up with the k live cd, and once up then turned on the external usb disk driveand did a $df -h  and a $df /boot see below********************************************************************** rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df -hFilesystem            Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on/dev/sdb1              18G  7.6G  9.0G  46% /varrun                474M  160K  474M   1% /var/runvarlock               474M     0  474M   0% /var/lockudev                  474M   88K  474M   1% /devdevshm                474M     0  474M   0% /dev/shmlrm                   474M   38M  437M   8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile/dev/sdb2              19G  6.2G   13G  34% /home/dev/sda1              75G   39G   36G  52% /media/BKUP MAN/dev/sdh1              75G   37G   38G  50% /media/BKUP MAN-1rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df /bootFilesystem           1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on/dev/sdb1             1 rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df -hFilesystem            Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on/dev/sdb1              18G  7.6G  9.0G  46% /varrun                474M  160K  474M   1% /var/runvarlock               474M     0  474M   0% /var/lockudev                  474M   88K  474M   1% /devdevshm                474M     0  474M   0% /dev/shmlrm                   474M   38M  437M   8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile/dev/sdb2              19G  6.2G   13G  34% /home/dev/sda1              75G   39G   36G  52% /media/BKUP MAN/dev/sdh1              75G   37G   38G  50% /media/BKUP MAN-1rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df /bootFilesystem           1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on/dev/sdb1             18034492   7909904   9397488  46% /rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$8034492   7909904   9397488  46% /rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$*************************************************************************************so as you see the main xp pro is sda1 and the external usb is sdh1 andonly have one boot on sdb1?????so await your adviseray

Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:16:51 +0100


Subject: Re: re grub error 17From: Herve at lucidia.netTo: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.comHi Ray,
2009/1/21 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>

Herve, I am sorry as kost of my questions on the forum go astray!!!!!
No worries :-) 

when I boot from the backup disk it just continually says gub, but this was a clonned copy thru ghost 3 of the main xp pro??
I s'pose ghost did not just copy the disk... I actually don't know this program. I use dd which is not very beautiful being command line and all that, but does exactly what's written on the tin :-)

 do I do this $ df /boot when in K and with just my xp pro drive and linux drive?????
Sorry, you'd do this from the command line (Konsole) in Kubuntu. Sorry again for my use of command line, I actually don't know the graphical tools though I know they exist. 
To copy the disks, I'd boot from a LiveCD of Kubuntu, so none of the hard disks are being used, then I'd make a bit-for-bit copy of my disks to the backup; that's what dd does.For example, when you start from the LiveCD, your main hard disk maybe /dev/sdc and your backup disk /dev/sdb, do you'd copy like so:$ dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdbThis means copy from input 'file' (if) /dev/sdc to output 'file' (of) /dev/sdb, and it preserves the boot record and partition table.You can also copy partitions the same way (after checking that destination >= source). For example:$ dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sdb4Good luck,Hervé

 ray

Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:04:04 +0100
Subject: Re: re grub error 17From: Herve at lucidia.netTo: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com


Hello Ray,Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal e-mail.I - Booting with the backup disks onIf your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on, then my guess is that you have two grubs:* one on the main hard drive (the one you want)* at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't)and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you probably know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section (its location depends on your BIOS).II - Error 17The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example, Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and /dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this:$ df /bootwhich gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet):/dev/sda8             52506748   3838592  46000968   8% /I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of help.Hervé

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From wilson.pr.gm at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 20:31:36 2009
From: wilson.pr.gm at gmail.com (Patricia Wilson)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:31:36 -0700
Subject: Login background
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On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Mario Andes <multilingus at gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> some weeks ago I had a female with green bikini as login background for
> kubuntu 8.10. Unfortunately the system crashed and I had to install it
> again
> and this background does not appear anymore in the list of backgrounds.
>
> Does somebody know where I can find it?
> multilingus
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From godshatter at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 23 20:39:12 2009
From: godshatter at yahoo.com (Paul Rumelhart)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:39:12 -0800
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
Message-ID: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com>

I've been trying to keep up with the posts on this list, and have found 
from going through some of them that there are some helpful basics for 
using the command-line that we should share our knowledge about.  This 
will help people who don't use the command-line very often, and may even 
help some of those who use it regularly.  I've learned a few things just 
experimenting prior to writing this email.  However, this is very basic 
stuff so I apologize if you find that frustrating.

When you are at the command-line in Kubuntu (and Ubuntu proper), by 
default you are using a shell called "bash".  A "shell" is simply a 
program that accepts commands from the user, and outputs results of 
those commands to the screen.  The shell is used most often to launch 
other programs, and to move around the system and examine things.  It's 
way more complicated than that, but let's keep it simple.

One of the best time savers when in a bash shell is it's feature called 
"tab completion".  Basically, in many cases, if you press the tab key 
(<tab>) after typing the start of a command, you will be able to 
complete that command without having to type the rest of it in.  This 
turns moving about the command-line and running complex tasks into a 
much less frustrating experience.

Some examples:

Filenames:

Say you want to use "ls -l" to see how large the file "hello.txt" is.  
If you have no other files in your current directory that start with a 
lower-case h, you can type "ls -l h<tab>" which will then show "ls -l 
hello.txt" on the prompt.  You can then press <enter> to see the output.

If you have another file in your directory that starts with "h", then 
the tab completion will show as much of the filename as it can before it 
runs into a conflict.  You can then supply the correct choice of the 
next letter and hit <tab> again to continue with the tab completion.  
Say you have two files that start with "h" in your current directory, 
"hello.txt" and "help.txt", and you want to do an "ls -l" on hello.txt.  
You can type "ls -l h<tab>", which will show "ls -l hel" on the screen, 
because that's as far as it could go until it needed the user to choose 
another letter.  In this case, you would type the letter "l", because 
that's the letter that differentiates it from help.txt.  So, even in 
this case you've gone from typing "ls -l hello.txt" (15 keystrokes) to 
typing "ls -l h<tab>l<tab>" (10 keystrokes).  Of course, this is much 
more important when dealing with longer filenames.

Now, let's say that you don't remember that help.txt is also in the 
directory, and you're wondering why the tab completion stopped at "ls -l 
hel" in the second example.  You can press tab again to see a list of 
files that match the current tab completion to that point.  In this 
case, you'd see "hello.txt" and "help.txt".  Of course, you could just 
type the letter "l" because you don't need to know which file is 
conflicting, but this can be useful when you've forgotten exactly how 
you spelled something when you created the file.

Others:

I'm grouping everything else I know that tab completion works on here, 
because the basics are exactly the same as for filenames.

Commands - if you forget what a program is called, and it is in your 
path, you can type the first few letters that you do know and press 
tab.  For example, typing "ch<tab>" will not put any more letters on the 
command from tab-completion because there are too many choices, but 
pressing the tab key again ("ch<tab><tab>") will show all commands that 
start with "ch".

Command-line switches - if you forget which switches ("--something") a 
particular command takes, you can type the command followed by a space 
and "--" and then press the tab key twice to get a list of possible 
choices (for example "ls --<tab><tab>" will show you all of the switches 
that ls will accept.  This will likely work on most every non-graphical 
program in the Ubuntu repositories and some graphical ones, but 
third-party software might not use the right libraries to make this work.

Environment variables - an environment variable is used by the shell for 
various tasks.  One example is "PATH", which shows which directories 
your systems looks in in what order to find things.  You can echo the 
contents of a variable to the screen by using the echo command and 
putting a "$" before the variable name.  So to see what your path is, 
you can type "echo $PATH".  If you forget the name of the variable you 
are looking for, you can type "echo $<tab><tab>" to see a list of all 
variables currently defined by your shell.

There are lots of others I keep finding.  Many commands that have a 
choice of arguments work to some degree.  For example, typing "alias 
<tab><tab>" will show you which aliases you have currently defined.  
The  basic rule of thumb is: if you are typing a command at the 
command-line and you aren't sure of the syntax, try using tab-completion 
to narrow down your choices.

I hope you find this helpful, and if you know of any cute tab-completion 
tricks please let us know.  If you use the command-line a lot, you'll 
find that pressing the tab key becomes instinctive and you'll really 
miss it when you are in a program that doesn't use it.

Paul




From doc.evans at gmail.com  Fri Jan 23 21:22:58 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:22:58 -0700
Subject: Strigi is completely buggy , fill my HDD to 100%
In-Reply-To: <497A1E6C.9010303@picasso.ucsf.edu>
References: <497A1E6C.9010303@picasso.ucsf.edu>
Message-ID: <497A3532.3070102@gmail.com>

Christophe Guilbert said the following at 01/23/2009 12:45 PM :
> Hi there,
> I have kubuntu 8.04
> I was wondering why my HDD was filling up over time until it completely 
> fill up my HDD. it turns out that Strigi literally put 170GB of files in 
> the ./strigi/clucene folder. Strigi deamon take about 80% of my CPU time.
> It is a known problem apparently and Strigi bug seems to be taking care 
> of  (work in progress)
> Meanwhile , what is the best way to have Strigi working or removed ?

My personal opinion:

Biting my lip so I don't rant about the embarrassing state of desktop
search in Kubuntu...

Use synaptic (or your favourite package manager) and remove all the
packages that contain the word "strigi".

If that doesn't remove or at least empty the .strigi directory (it probably
won't), delete that entire hierarchy manually.

Don't even try to get it working. Even if if you succeed, it doesn't work
(if you see what I mean).

FWIW, in 8.04, you can sort-of get by with kerry.

  Doc

-- 
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From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 23 21:36:51 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:36:51 -0500
Subject: Kernel-2.6.28-5.12 for 8.10
Message-ID: <497A3873.6040503@sbcglobal.net>

Where can this kernel-2.6.28-5.12 be found, I understand it supports a  
wireless driver I need for 8.10
According to this site;

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/210725



From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Fri Jan 23 21:46:05 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:46:05 -0500
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
In-Reply-To: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com>
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901231646.05883.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Friday 23 January 2009, Paul Rumelhart wrote:
> I hope you find this helpful, and if you know of any cute tab-completion
> tricks please let us know.  If you use the command-line a lot, you'll
> find that pressing the tab key becomes instinctive and you'll really
> miss it when you are in a program that doesn't use it.

One I use a lot is       cd  -

Takes you back to the previous directory you were in.



From chief at porterfire.org  Fri Jan 23 23:14:38 2009
From: chief at porterfire.org (lists@ptfd.org)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:14:38 -0500
Subject: kbluetooth4
Message-ID: <200901231814.39088.lists@ptfd.org>

I see kbluetooth is now loaded and starts as of yesterdays update, however 
when I try to set-up anything with the device manager it just looks at me with 
no response. I killed kbluetooth4 and started it with a konsole then I get 
this.

~$ kbluetooth4
kbluetooth4(794) Solid::Control::ManagerBasePrivate::loadBackend: Backend 
loaded:  "BlueZ"
kbluetooth4(794) KBlueTray::onlineMode: online Mode
kbluetooth4(794) KBlueTray::onlineMode: adapter size  1
kbluetooth4(794) KBlueTray::onlineMode: Adapter found  "chiefnb-0"
AGENT registered !
kbluetooth4(794) ObexServer::ObexServer: "00:00:00:00:00:00"
kbluetooth4(794) ObexServer::serverCreated: obex server created
kbluetooth4(794) ObexServer::serverCreated: session interface created for:  
"/org/openobex/server1"
mike at chiefnb:~$ kbluetooth4(794) ObexServer::slotStarted: server started
kbluetooth4(794) KBlueTray::slotServerStarted: obex server started
kbluetooth4(794) KBlueTray::showManager: Starting Device Manager
kbluetooth4-devicemanager(806) 
Solid::Control::ManagerBasePrivate::loadBackend: Backend loaded:  "BlueZ"
kbluetooth4-devicemanager(806) DeviceMan::DeviceMan: Device Manager - Welcome
QDBusObjectPath: invalid path ""
process 806: arguments to dbus_message_new_method_call() were incorrect, 
assertion "path != NULL" failed in file dbus-message.c line 1070.
This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library.
QDBusConnection: error: could not send message to service "org.bluez" path "" 
interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable" member "Introspect"
Object::connect: No such signal 
Solid::Control::BluetoothRemoteDevice::nodeCreated(QString)
Object::connect: No such signal 
Solid::Control::BluetoothRemoteDevice::nodeRemoved(QString)
Object::connect: No such signal 
Solid::Control::BluetoothRemoteDevice::nodeCreated(QString)
Object::connect: No such signal 
Solid::Control::BluetoothRemoteDevice::nodeRemoved(QString)
Object::connect: No such signal 
Solid::Control::BluetoothRemoteDevice::nodeCreated(QString)
Object::connect: No such signal 
Solid::Control::BluetoothRemoteDevice::nodeRemoved(QString)
kbluetooth4-devicemanager(806) DeviceMan::getConfiguredDevices: Device List 
Size:  1
kbluetooth4-devicemanager: symbol lookup error: kbluetooth4-devicemanager: 
undefined symbol: _ZN5Solid7Control21BluetoothRemoteDevice4nameEv



Any ideas?

Mike
-- 
Michael W. Holdeman
Chief 
Porter Fire Department

Powered by Kubuntu-8.10, KDE-4.2beta



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 24 03:03:19 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:03:19 -0500
Subject: html mail (was: Re: How do I install a .bin...]
In-Reply-To: <glbutu$i6l$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220804.21616.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<glbutu$i6l$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200901232203.19851.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Friday 23 January 2009 3:25:33 am Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>  > On Wednesday 21 January 2009, Steven Vollom wrote:
>
> Dear Steven,
>
> please be so kind and switch off HTML-Mail.
>
> Your answers come in a "nicely styled and coloured font" and on my PC
> (thunderbird on Kubuntu 8.10,) the font size might be around 16 (way to
> large)
>
> In case that it is just me, please accept my apologies.
>
> Kind regards
> Eberhard

Settings Configuration Kmail.

Under Message Window I unchecked show HTML status bar.
Under Appearance I did not have and still don't have Show HTML status bar.
Under Security Reading, I did not have and still don't have Prefer HTML to 
plain text checked.

Those are the only references to HTML in the configuration of kmail.  I don't 
use Thunderbird anymore.  Is there a possibility that it is in your 
configuration?  If not, where do I look for the switch for HTML-Mail?

Sorry friend.  I didn't even know that Under Message Window was checked.  I 
hope that fixed the problem.  Otherwise, I don't know what to do.

Steven

You never need appologize to me.  I am sorry for the problem.  When I changed 
the color of the font, it was to draw attention to that part of the data.  
Does that automatically change an email to HTML?



From jtwdyp at ttlc.net  Sat Jan 24 07:03:30 2009
From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:03:30 -0500
Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc 4.6.2-pre1 from kubuntu repo???
In-Reply-To: <200901230037.18577.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
	<200901181842.53513.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<alpine.LNX.1.10.0901222339330.27404@linux-8mzr.site>
	<200901230037.18577.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901240139200.5882@localhost.localdomain>


It would appear that on Jan 23, Constantinos Maltezos did say:

> On Thursday 22 January 2009 10:48:21 pm Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > Would you happen to know of another WM that invests in the keyboard as a
> > primary input device??
> 
> Sadly, no.  Although it's very possible that there's a window manager
> with which you can edit its keyboard shortcuts through an rc file.  I
> just don't remember off the top of my head.  But maybe FVWM does.  I do
> recall that FVWM has pretty good keyboard support.

Hmmnnn maybe I should look into it then... Next time I boot intrepid
I'll have to try and remember to try "apt-get install fvwm"...
 

> I see that you have keyboard layouts disabled.  I'm very sure you've
> tried this, but I'll ask anyway: have you tried enabling them?  Don't add
> anything and take the check mark off of the flag icon thing, but if you
> haven't tried it, it might be worth it.

Well actually since I don't use keyboard layouts I'm quite sure I
haven't tried enabling them... I think it's a log shot. But I've got
nothing to lose. Thanks I'll have to give that a try sometime soon.

-- 
|   ^^^   ^^^
|   <O>   <O>	   Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|	^		J(tWdy)P
|     \___/	     <<jtwdyp at ttlc.net>>




From wayward4now at gmail.com  Sat Jan 24 07:11:54 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:11:54 -0500
Subject: Epson and HP Scanner
In-Reply-To: <200901161313.39838.phantom21@mindspring.com>
References: <200901161313.39838.phantom21@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <1232781115.9003.163.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 13:13 -0500, Mark Halegua wrote:
> Can anyone on the list tell me which scanners from Epson and HP they've used 
> on Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
> 
> I'm looking for an inexpensive scanner priced up to $150 with a good 
> resolution.
> 
> I've looked at the SANE pages and other places, but most of the info seems 
> old, so any help here is appreciated.

My Hp combo printer does it all, it scans, it prints, it copies, it
slices and dices. One thing though that would have me look at Kodak is
the blooming price per page of ink. HP is crazy, IMHO. I'm not getting
many pages at all before the cartridge runs dry. I would swear that I'm
getting those first time free start cartridges, as they last no time.
I'm royally jerked with HP over this. Funny thing is that complaints go
to the people who pack the ink and not to HP in the US headquarters. Fox
guarding the hen house. 

I've checked the Kodak site and they do have some linux routines for
dnload. One claims to set true color on your monitor. Nifty. I'm
spending far more money for ink than I did for the printer which I
purchased a little more than a year ago. So, I'll look at Kodak next
time, unless I hear something different. Ric
-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From kassube at gmx.net  Sat Jan 24 07:41:02 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:41:02 +0100
Subject: html mail (was: Re: How do I install a .bin...]
In-Reply-To: <200901232203.19851.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<glbutu$i6l$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<200901232203.19851.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901240841.03021.kassube@gmx.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> When I 
> changed the color of the font, it was to draw attention to that part of
> the data. Does that automatically change an email to HTML?

Yes, using anything that requires markup (e.g. colours, font size) will 
switch to HTML mode.


Nils



From kassube at gmx.net  Sat Jan 24 08:12:41 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:12:41 +0100
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
In-Reply-To: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com>
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200901240912.41270.kassube@gmx.net>

Paul Rumelhart wrote:
> One of the best time savers when in a bash shell is it's feature called
> "tab completion".

Indeed.

> Some examples:
>
> Filenames:

There are two things you didn't mention.

1. If a file name contains special characters the command completion uses 
backslashes as escape character in front of the special characters. E.g. 
if you have a file name "isn't this funny?.txt" and you type

ls is<tab>

the result of the command completion is this:

ls isn\'t\ this\ funny\?.txt

2. The command completion doesn't work within quotes. Using the file name 
above it wouldn't work if I type this:

ls "is<tab>

So if you want to use command completion, don't use quotes.

> Command-line switches - if you forget which switches ("--something") a
> particular command takes, you can type the command followed by a space
> and "--" and then press the tab key twice to get a list of possible
> choices (for example "ls --<tab><tab>" will show you all of the
> switches that ls will accept.

Did you try that? It doesn't work here. Or is there some special addon to 
bash needed to make it work? If you don't know the switches, use 
the --help option. Many commands answer with a usage message.

> There are lots of others I keep finding.  Many commands that have a
> choice of arguments work to some degree.  For example, typing "alias
> <tab><tab>" will show you which aliases you have currently defined.

Doesn't work either. But if you want to get a list of your aliases just 
try the alias command without parameters.


Nils



From donn.ingle at gmail.com  Sat Jan 24 09:01:51 2009
From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:01:51 +0200
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
In-Reply-To: <200901240912.41270.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com> <200901240912.41270.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901241101.51632.donn.ingle@gmail.com>

On Saturday, 24 January 2009 10:12:41 Nils Kassube wrote:
> 2. The command completion doesn't work within quotes. Using the file name
> above it wouldn't work if I type this:
>
> ls "is<tab>
>
> So if you want to use command completion, don't use quotes.

Works fine for me....

\d



From Herve at lucidia.net  Sat Jan 24 09:09:32 2009
From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?B?SGVydsOpIEZhY2hl?=)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:09:32 +0100
Subject: Kernel-2.6.28-5.12 for 8.10
In-Reply-To: <497A3873.6040503@sbcglobal.net>
References: <497A3873.6040503@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4413284c0901240109i77ac2936w45d3a91ac505d271@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/23 Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net>

> Where can this kernel-2.6.28-5.12 be found


This is the latest kernel for "Jaunty", which will become 9.04. You'd need
to run the development version (at your own risks!) to get it...
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From jonorland at gmail.com  Sat Jan 24 09:11:13 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:11:13 +0100
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
In-Reply-To: <200901240912.41270.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com> <200901240912.41270.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901240111p7794a4b9v6026fe82a9edfb98@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/24 Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net>:
> Paul Rumelhart wrote:
>> One of the best time savers when in a bash shell is it's feature called
>> "tab completion".
>
> Indeed.
>
>> Some examples:
>>
>> Filenames:
>
> There are two things you didn't mention.
>
> 1. If a file name contains special characters the command completion uses
> backslashes as escape character in front of the special characters. E.g.
> if you have a file name "isn't this funny?.txt" and you type
>
> ls is<tab>
>
> the result of the command completion is this:
>
> ls isn\'t\ this\ funny\?.txt
>
> 2. The command completion doesn't work within quotes. Using the file name
> above it wouldn't work if I type this:
>
> ls "is<tab>
>
> So if you want to use command completion, don't use quotes.
>
>> Command-line switches - if you forget which switches ("--something") a
>> particular command takes, you can type the command followed by a space
>> and "--" and then press the tab key twice to get a list of possible
>> choices (for example "ls --<tab><tab>" will show you all of the
>> switches that ls will accept.
>
> Did you try that? It doesn't work here. Or is there some special addon to
> bash needed to make it work? If you don't know the switches, use
> the --help option. Many commands answer with a usage message.

Works for me.

>> There are lots of others I keep finding.  Many commands that have a
>> choice of arguments work to some degree.  For example, typing "alias
>> <tab><tab>" will show you which aliases you have currently defined.
>
> Doesn't work either. But if you want to get a list of your aliases just
> try the alias command without parameters.
>

Works for me.

~$ bash --version
GNU bash, version 3.2.39(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
On Kubuntu Intrepid

/ Jonas



From kassube at gmx.net  Sat Jan 24 09:18:32 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:18:32 +0100
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
In-Reply-To: <200901241101.51632.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com> <200901240912.41270.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901241101.51632.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901241018.33132.kassube@gmx.net>

Donn wrote:
> On Saturday, 24 January 2009 10:12:41 Nils Kassube wrote:
> > 2. The command completion doesn't work within quotes. Using the file
> > name above it wouldn't work if I type this:
> >
> > ls "is<tab>
> >
> > So if you want to use command completion, don't use quotes.
>
> Works fine for me....

Oops, now it works here as well. I must have mistyped it when I tried it 
earlier this morning, maybe it was a lack of coffee? Anyway, sorry - and 
scratch that part.


Nils



From kassube at gmx.net  Sat Jan 24 09:55:34 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:55:34 +0100
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901240111p7794a4b9v6026fe82a9edfb98@mail.gmail.com>
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com> <200901240912.41270.kassube@gmx.net>
	<b8d784880901240111p7794a4b9v6026fe82a9edfb98@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901241055.34845.kassube@gmx.net>

Jonas Norlander wrote:
> Works for me.
>
> ~$ bash --version
> GNU bash, version 3.2.39(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
> On Kubuntu Intrepid

Ah, then that is a new feature. I'm using 8.04 where it doesn't work.


Nils



From jonorland at gmail.com  Sat Jan 24 10:00:37 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:00:37 +0100
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
In-Reply-To: <200901241018.33132.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com> <200901240912.41270.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901241101.51632.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
	<200901241018.33132.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901240200j7b4b8b2dnf74bd97571398394@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/24 Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net>:
> Donn wrote:
>> On Saturday, 24 January 2009 10:12:41 Nils Kassube wrote:
>> > 2. The command completion doesn't work within quotes. Using the file
>> > name above it wouldn't work if I type this:
>> >
>> > ls "is<tab>
>> >
>> > So if you want to use command completion, don't use quotes.
>>
>> Works fine for me....
>
> Oops, now it works here as well. I must have mistyped it when I tried it
> earlier this morning, maybe it was a lack of coffee? Anyway, sorry - and
> scratch that part.
>
>
> Nils
>

That on the other hand don't work for me, neither in Konsole or on a
"pure" console.

/ Jonas



From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Sat Jan 24 13:19:02 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:19:02 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu 8.04.2 ??
Message-ID: <497B1546.9020407@gmail.com>

Have noticed that Gnome Ubuntu 8.04.2 has been released. Where or when 
is Kubuntu 8.04.2??? As it would save me download time plenty when 
installing new computers.

Regards,
Sinclair



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Sat Jan 24 13:52:55 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:52:55 -0400
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com> <200901240912.41270.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <o2jr46-mo7.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Nils Kassube wrote:

> Paul Rumelhart wrote:

>> Command-line switches - if you forget which switches ("--something") a
>> particular command takes, you can type the command followed by a space
>> and "--" and then press the tab key twice to get a list of possible
>> choices (for example "ls --<tab><tab>" will show you all of the
>> switches that ls will accept.
> 
> Did you try that? It doesn't work here. Or is there some special addon to
> bash needed to make it work? 

bash completion is fairly arcane to me, but aiui  it's up to the command's 
packager to add some relevant file with the completions.  Everybody should 
have apt-get - so you can try "apt-get -<tab>".  Unfortunately, apt-get's 
completions are part of the default system, so the "apt" package doesn't 
have a special file in it.

> If you don't know the switches, use
> the --help option. Many commands answer with a usage message.
> 
>> There are lots of others I keep finding.  Many commands that have a
>> choice of arguments work to some degree.  For example, typing "alias
>> <tab><tab>" will show you which aliases you have currently defined.

Works for me (doesn't need two <tab>s).

The coolest discovery I ever made about bash completion was the fact that:

> scp filename  somehost::<tab>

works!  It's pretty slow for the host where I usually want to use it, but so 
handy.





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Sat Jan 24 13:59:47 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:59:47 -0400
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com> <200901240912.41270.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901241101.51632.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
	<200901241018.33132.kassube@gmx.net>
	<b8d784880901240200j7b4b8b2dnf74bd97571398394@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mfjr46-948.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Jonas Norlander wrote:

> 2009/1/24 Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net>:
>> Donn wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 24 January 2009 10:12:41 Nils Kassube wrote:
>>> > 2. The command completion doesn't work within quotes. Using the file
>>> > name above it wouldn't work if I type this:
>>> >
>>> > ls "is<tab>
>>> >
>>> > So if you want to use command completion, don't use quotes.
>>>
>>> Works fine for me....
>>
>> Oops, now it works here as well. I must have mistyped it when I tried it
>> earlier this morning, maybe it was a lack of coffee? Anyway, sorry - and
>> scratch that part.
> 
> That on the other hand don't work for me, neither in Konsole or on a
> "pure" console.

Nor  me - and I really wouldn't have expected it to. Since bash explicitly 
prevents expansion of anything inside double quotes, it seems perfectly 
normal that bash completion can't work.

However, that last "belief" is obviously wrong (!) as I find the completion 
works in some cases at least:

> "apt-c<tab>
> apt-cache   apt-cdrom   apt-config






From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 24 15:24:11 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:24:11 -0500
Subject: Kubuntu-9.04 Add-Remove Sftware
Message-ID: <497B329B.60805@sbcglobal.net>

Is this the correct place to post on Kubuntu-9.04
The Software-Sources in Adept , no matter who you select, they all Fail.
Yes, eth0 is UP.



From kassube at gmx.net  Sat Jan 24 15:36:45 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:36:45 +0100
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
In-Reply-To: <mfjr46-948.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com>
	<b8d784880901240200j7b4b8b2dnf74bd97571398394@mail.gmail.com>
	<mfjr46-948.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <200901241636.45122.kassube@gmx.net>

Derek Broughton wrote:
> Jonas Norlander wrote:
> > 2009/1/24 Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net>:
> >> Donn wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, 24 January 2009 10:12:41 Nils Kassube wrote:
> >>> > 2. The command completion doesn't work within quotes. Using the
> >>> > file name above it wouldn't work if I type this:
> >>> >
> >>> > ls "is<tab>
> >>> >
> >>> > So if you want to use command completion, don't use quotes.
> >>>
> >>> Works fine for me....
> >>
> >> Oops, now it works here as well. I must have mistyped it when I
> >> tried it earlier this morning, maybe it was a lack of coffee?
> >> Anyway, sorry - and scratch that part.
> >
> > That on the other hand don't work for me, neither in Konsole or on a
> > "pure" console.
>
> Nor  me - and I really wouldn't have expected it to. Since bash
> explicitly prevents expansion of anything inside double quotes, it
> seems perfectly normal that bash completion can't work.

Meanwhile I have tested it with the LiveCD of both 8.04 and 8.10. With 
8.04 my example above (ls "is<tab>) works but not with 8.10. Possibly 
that is the reason why my first test this morning didn't work but the 
second test did work.


Nils



From basroufs at gmail.com  Sat Jan 24 15:49:21 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:49:21 +0100
Subject: SOLVED: Kubuntu 8.10 desktop - how to get back the panel at the 
	bottom of the screen?
Message-ID: <c638edc20901240749i4631effdi21989309b46476e@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Eberhard, Derek, Bruce and Everybody Else

A few days ago, I sent you a message on the vanishing of the panel at
the bottom of the screen.  (Kubuntu 8.10, KDE 4.):
>> ...The absence of the panel at the bottom makes working at the desktop quite complicated ....
>> ...So I would highly appreciate your (short) answer. Thanks!

You, Eberhard, pointed out to possibilities to use a terminal to solve
the problem. That approach appeared to be the key to the effective
solution I found today. My findings could be useful for others whose
panels suddenly disappear. That's why, I summarise below how I solved
the problem. As I understand from you, Derek: something like that can
happen because of various reasons, more ore less beyond one's control:
> ...Don't blame yourself - I've lost the panel numerous times through actions that _shouldn't_ have
> that effect.....(snip).


However it may be, this is what I have done, taking into account this
terminal approach:
> -open a terminal
> -cp .kde/ .kde.org
> -cp .kde4/ .kde4.org
In order to avoid mistakes, I first installed Midnight Commander:
'terminal>sudo apt-get install mc'.
The next step was this one:
'terminal>sudo mc'
Than I copied the old .kde configuration to .kde.org via F5.
By the way: there was only one .kde folder. A folder '.kde4' did not
appear; probably because I installed Kubuntu 8.10 'from scratch' at my
desktop, all the KDE stuff has been put together in the .kde folder.

> -rm .kde .kde4 ....This removes your existing kde configration.....
I again carried out a terminal sudo mc command. Than I used the option
F8 to delete the 'old' KDE configuration.

> After login off and back in, you will be back at the default Kubuntu Desktop where any
> modifications that you made to KDE, are gone and your bottom panel should be there, again.
It exactly worked out like this after closing down terminal and using
the K>Leave>Restart option. A kind of default panel reappeared. I
simply added to it a few widgets more in order to customise it to my
specific needs. Now, I have a panel that works better than ever
before.

Now, I walk through some other pieces of feedback.

> Adding a panel _does_ work - you just have to rebuild everything in it -  (snip)...
Today, it became clear that you are right: at the upper left side of
the desktop, I found back several 'panel' and 'task managers' that I
tried to manually insert. However, those details only became clear
after careful research.....

> The way I do this in KDE3 is to: Settings --->  Desktop -->  Panels  -->  Hiding

> Select on the 'Hide Mode' the one that isn't selected and Apply..Then select the other mode and Apply.

> You should be back where you started.

When I worked with Kubuntu 7.10/ KDE3, it exactly worked like that.
However, here in Kubuntu 8.10/ KDE4, something has changed in the menu
structure of System > System Settings > Desktop. I simply cannot find
anything there anything with respect to panels.

However it may be, I solved the problem in the way summarised above.
That is perfectly OK for me.

Thanks for the feedback in this thread.

Respectfully yours,

Bas.





-- 
===============
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Van 't Hoffstraat 1
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T. +31.30.785.20.40
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===============



From girardhenri at free.fr  Sat Jan 24 16:00:35 2009
From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:00:35 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu-9.04 Add-Remove Sftware
In-Reply-To: <497B329B.60805@sbcglobal.net>
References: <497B329B.60805@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1232812835.26349.1.camel@tao>

i stop using jaunty because kdenetwork is broken and no way to use
internet any more !
i guess you have no more internet either ?

Le samedi 24 janvier 2009 à 10:24 -0500, Jim a écrit :
> Is this the correct place to post on Kubuntu-9.04
> The Software-Sources in Adept , no matter who you select, they all Fail.
> Yes, eth0 is UP.
> 




From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 24 16:20:46 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:20:46 -0500
Subject: Kubuntu-9.04 Add-Remove Sftware
In-Reply-To: <1232812835.26349.1.camel@tao>
References: <497B329B.60805@sbcglobal.net> <1232812835.26349.1.camel@tao>
Message-ID: <497B3FDE.9090401@sbcglobal.net>

Girard Henri wrote:
> i stop using jaunty because kdenetwork is broken and no way to use
> internet any more !
> i guess you have no more internet either ?
>
> Le samedi 24 janvier 2009 à 10:24 -0500, Jim a écrit :
>   
>> Is this the correct place to post on Kubuntu-9.04
>> The Software-Sources in Adept , no matter who you select, they all Fail.
>> Yes, eth0 is UP.
>>
>>     
>
>
>   
On a EEEpc 1000. and Alpha3.
I'm having no problems of connecting with eth0.
With wireless thats another problem with a Ralink RT2790 .



From godshatter at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 24 17:07:28 2009
From: godshatter at yahoo.com (Paul Rumelhart)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:07:28 -0800
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
In-Reply-To: <o2jr46-mo7.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com> <200901240912.41270.kassube@gmx.net>
	<o2jr46-mo7.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <497B4AD0.3000904@yahoo.com>

Derek Broughton wrote:
> Nils Kassube wrote:
>
>   
> bash completion is fairly arcane to me, but aiui  it's up to the command's 
> packager to add some relevant file with the completions.  Everybody should 
> have apt-get - so you can try "apt-get -<tab>".  Unfortunately, apt-get's 
> completions are part of the default system, so the "apt" package doesn't 
> have a special file in it.
>
>   

I didn't know there were tab completion files involved.  That's good to 
know.

> The coolest discovery I ever made about bash completion was the fact that:
>
>   
>> scp filename  somehost::<tab>
>>     
>
> works!  It's pretty slow for the host where I usually want to use it, but so 
> handy.
>   

I've also found it works in some other programs that take input from the 
command-line, such as psql (an interface into Postgresql).  I assume 
that's built in to the psql code, and doesn't have anything to do with 
the bash shell. 

Take a look at the file /etc/bash_completion to get an idea of how many 
commands support tab completion.  I've been reading up on this, since 
you've gotten me curious.  Bash has facilities for adding custom tab 
completion to scripts you write yourself, in case you need your script 
to look at usernames or environment variables or whatever when you press 
<tab>.  Pretty cool stuff.

There is a command called "compgen" that you can call that tells you 
what will be matched for whichever program.  For example, if you want to 
find out what tab completion will find for users on your system that 
start with the letter "r", type: "compgen -A user -- r" and it should 
give you the same list that "user r<tab>" does.  This could be helpful 
inside scripts for various user inputs.  There is also a command called 
"complete" that you can use to assign tab completion to your program, 
but I haven't tried that one.  I'll have to play around with some scripts.

Paul

Paul




From tycho at tycho.ws  Sat Jan 24 17:07:40 2009
From: tycho at tycho.ws (Tycho Andersen)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:07:40 -0600
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Does anyone have the latest version of Kubuntu install on a Asus EEEpc
> 1000, I'm mainly concerned about the
> Ralink RT2970 Wireless card.
> Does the Wireless have a driver for it ?

Jim:

I've had Easy Peasy (formerly Ubuntu-EEE) running on my EEE1000 since
August, and it works like a dream. You can get it here:
http://www.geteasypeasy.com/

Sadly, though, this is a Gnome based desktop. It is also stuck in the
land of 8.04. However, there's a guy who compiles a kernel
specifically for the EEE, you might be able to use his kernel packages
(which would have the wireless drivers and other optimizations) with
Kubuntu. I haven't tried it, but in theory it works ;-)

Tycho



From alain.muls at telenet.be  Sat Jan 24 17:10:41 2009
From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:10:41 +0100
Subject: Kontact crashes on calendar entry
Message-ID: <200901241810.41890.alain.muls@telenet.be>

Hi

Since the last kontact update, kontact crashes every time I enter a new 
appointment in the calendar which is controlled by akonadi. Has someone else 
the same behavior or a solution. I do not get a crash report for entering a 
bug.

Tx/Alain

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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Sat Jan 24 17:38:25 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:38:25 +0100
Subject: SOLVED: Kubuntu 8.10 desktop - how to get back the panel at the
	bottom of the screen?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901240749i4631effdi21989309b46476e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901240749i4631effdi21989309b46476e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <glfjmh$vj3$1@ger.gmane.org>

Bas Roufs wrote:

> However it may be, this is what I have done, taking into account this
> terminal approach:
>> -open a terminal
>> -cp .kde/ .kde.org
>> -cp .kde4/ .kde4.org
> In order to avoid mistakes, I first installed Midnight Commander:
> 'terminal>sudo apt-get install mc'.
> The next step was this one:
> 'terminal>sudo mc'
> Than I copied the old .kde configuration to .kde.org via F5.

Bas,

I am glad that it worked.
I am even more delighted that you did the copy via mc, since my commands 
were buggy indeed.

Imho it should have read:
cp -rd .kde/ .kde.org

r means "recursive copy"
D means "copy empty directories, as well".

So my original command most probably would have left you with an 
unusable saftety copy. ;-(((

Sorry for my mistakes and again, it is great that your panel is back!

regards
Eberhard






From tuxebi at gmx.de  Sat Jan 24 17:39:48 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:39:48 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.04.2 ??
In-Reply-To: <497B1546.9020407@gmail.com>
References: <497B1546.9020407@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <glfjp4$vj3$2@ger.gmane.org>

O. Sinclair wrote:

> As it would save me download time plenty when 
> installing new computers.

correct!

regards
Eberjard
> 
> Regards,
> Sinclair
> 




From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 24 17:43:53 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:43:53 -0500
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>
	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497B5359.8050507@sbcglobal.net>

Tycho Andersen wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>   
>> Does anyone have the latest version of Kubuntu install on a Asus EEEpc
>> 1000, I'm mainly concerned about the
>> Ralink RT2970 Wireless card.
>> Does the Wireless have a driver for it ?
>>     
>
> Jim:
>
> I've had Easy Peasy (formerly Ubuntu-EEE) running on my EEE1000 since
> August, and it works like a dream. You can get it here:
> http://www.geteasypeasy.com/
>
> Sadly, though, this is a Gnome based desktop. It is also stuck in the
> land of 8.04. However, there's a guy who compiles a kernel
> specifically for the EEE, you might be able to use his kernel packages
> (which would have the wireless drivers and other optimizations) with
> Kubuntu. I haven't tried it, but in theory it works ;-)
>
> Tycho
>
>   
Thanks for the info, but I'm a KDE man, the site does give some good 
info setting wireless up.




From derek at pointerstop.ca  Sat Jan 24 17:37:18 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:37:18 -0400
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com> <200901240912.41270.kassube@gmx.net>
	<o2jr46-mo7.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <497B4AD0.3000904@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f70s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Paul Rumelhart wrote:

> Derek Broughton wrote:
>> Nils Kassube wrote:
>>
>>   
>> bash completion is fairly arcane to me, but aiui  it's up to the
>> command's
>> packager to add some relevant file with the completions.  Everybody
>> should
>> have apt-get - so you can try "apt-get -<tab>".  Unfortunately, apt-get's
>> completions are part of the default system, so the "apt" package doesn't
>> have a special file in it.
>>
>>   
> 
> I didn't know there were tab completion files involved.  That's good to
> know.

/etc/bash_completion.d/

> I've also found it works in some other programs that take input from the
> command-line, such as psql (an interface into Postgresql).  I assume
> that's built in to the psql code, and doesn't have anything to do with
> the bash shell.

Nope, it's built into readline - which is part of bash (if I'm not 
completely confused!).  In any case, it's possible to get completions from 
most such programs (and yes, I use it in psql all the time).
 
> There is a command called "compgen" that you can call that tells you
> what will be matched for whichever program.  For example, if you want to
> find out what tab completion will find for users on your system that
> start with the letter "r", type: "compgen -A user -- r" and it should
> give you the same list that "user r<tab>" does.  This could be helpful
> inside scripts for various user inputs.  There is also a command called
> "complete" that you can use to assign tab completion to your program,
> but I haven't tried that one.  I'll have to play around with some scripts.

Neat - I didn't know about those.





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Sat Jan 24 17:41:46 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:41:46 -0400
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>
	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Tycho Andersen wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Does anyone have the latest version of Kubuntu install on a Asus EEEpc
>> 1000, I'm mainly concerned about the
>> Ralink RT2970 Wireless card.
>> Does the Wireless have a driver for it ?
> 
> I've had Easy Peasy (formerly Ubuntu-EEE) running on my EEE1000 since
> August, and it works like a dream. You can get it here:
> http://www.geteasypeasy.com/
> 
> Sadly, though, this is a Gnome based desktop. It is also stuck in the
> land of 8.04. However, there's a guy who compiles a kernel
> specifically for the EEE, you might be able to use his kernel packages
> (which would have the wireless drivers and other optimizations) with
> Kubuntu. I haven't tried it, but in theory it works ;-)

Kubuntu/Gnome are not tied to specific kernels.  I kept a hardy kernel on 
this Intrepid box until yesterday, because all of the Intrepid kernels have 
had some problems for me (the current one still occasionally breaks the e100 
driver, but infrequently enough not to worry me).

So, there's no real reason you can't install the up-to-date KDE or Gnome 
desktops and still keep the old kernel (though I haven't tried it on an EEE) 
and there's equally no reason why you shouldn't be able to install kubuntu-
desktop on a system that is already running Gnome.





From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Sat Jan 24 18:30:32 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:30:32 -0600
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>
	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Does anyone have the latest version of Kubuntu install on a Asus EEEpc
> 1000, I'm mainly concerned about the Ralink RT2970 Wireless card.
> Does the Wireless have a driver for it ?
> 

You could install Eeebuntu and then install the KDE desktop.



From aeclist at candt.waitrose.com  Sat Jan 24 18:49:44 2009
From: aeclist at candt.waitrose.com (alan c)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:49:44 +0000
Subject: Kubuntu 8.04.2 ??
In-Reply-To: <497B1546.9020407@gmail.com>
References: <497B1546.9020407@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497B62C8.6050505@candt.waitrose.com>

O. Sinclair wrote:
> Have noticed that Gnome Ubuntu 8.04.2 has been released. Where or when 
> is Kubuntu 8.04.2??? As it would save me download time plenty when 
> installing new computers.

you might want to consider
aptoncd
for the first one, I think that will capture your updates maybe?

-- 
alan cocks
Ubuntu user #10391
Linux user #360648



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 24 18:53:30 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:53:30 -0500
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net>

Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>   
>> Does anyone have the latest version of Kubuntu install on a Asus EEEpc
>> 1000, I'm mainly concerned about the Ralink RT2970 Wireless card.
>> Does the Wireless have a driver for it ?
>>
>>     
>
> You could install Eeebuntu and then install the KDE desktop.
>
>   
Can you select desktop during install or after install ?
How would you do it.



From phantom21 at mindspring.com  Sat Jan 24 19:03:25 2009
From: phantom21 at mindspring.com (Mark Halegua)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:03:25 -0500
Subject: Epson and HP Scanner
In-Reply-To: <1232781115.9003.163.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <200901161313.39838.phantom21@mindspring.com>
	<1232781115.9003.163.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <200901241403.25329.phantom21@mindspring.com>

I appreciate the info, but we're just interested in a plain scanner and not an 
all in one.  We have a great Xerox Phaser 8560N and it satisfies our need for 
printing.  

Now we just want an inexpensive scanner.

Mark

On Saturday 24 January 2009 02:11:54 am Ric Moore wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 13:13 -0500, Mark Halegua wrote:
> > Can anyone on the list tell me which scanners from Epson and HP they've
> > used on Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
> >
> > I'm looking for an inexpensive scanner priced up to $150 with a good
> > resolution.
> >
> > I've looked at the SANE pages and other places, but most of the info
> > seems old, so any help here is appreciated.
>
> My Hp combo printer does it all, it scans, it prints, it copies, it
> slices and dices. One thing though that would have me look at Kodak is
> the blooming price per page of ink. HP is crazy, IMHO. I'm not getting
> many pages at all before the cartridge runs dry. I would swear that I'm
> getting those first time free start cartridges, as they last no time.
> I'm royally jerked with HP over this. Funny thing is that complaints go
> to the people who pack the ink and not to HP in the US headquarters. Fox
> guarding the hen house.
>
> I've checked the Kodak site and they do have some linux routines for
> dnload. One claims to set true color on your monitor. Nifty. I'm
> spending far more money for ink than I did for the printer which I
> purchased a little more than a year ago. So, I'll look at Kodak next
> time, unless I hear something different. Ric
> --
>
> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
> Linux user# 44256
> https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
> Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987





From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Sat Jan 24 19:07:50 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:07:50 -0600
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>
	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>

Jim wrote:
> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>   
>>> Does anyone have the latest version of Kubuntu install on a Asus EEEpc
>>> 1000, I'm mainly concerned about the Ralink RT2970 Wireless card.
>>> Does the Wireless have a driver for it ?
>>>
>>>     
>> You could install Eeebuntu and then install the KDE desktop.
>>
>>   
> Can you select desktop during install or after install ?
> How would you do it.
> 

Install Eeebuntu. Open Synaptic. Install KDE.

On boot you should be able to choose the desktop manager. I believe 
default is the last used so once your into KDE and shut down it should 
be the default desktop.

I'm sure if I missed something someone else will answer.


-- 
- -
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 24 19:22:33 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:22:33 -0500
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net>
	<497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net>

Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>   
>> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>>     
>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Does anyone have the latest version of Kubuntu install on a Asus EEEpc
>>>> 1000, I'm mainly concerned about the Ralink RT2970 Wireless card.
>>>> Does the Wireless have a driver for it ?
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> You could install Eeebuntu and then install the KDE desktop.
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> Can you select desktop during install or after install ?
>> How would you do it.
>>
>>     
>
> Install Eeebuntu. Open Synaptic. Install KDE.
>
> On boot you should be able to choose the desktop manager. I believe 
> default is the last used so once your into KDE and shut down it should 
> be the default desktop.
>
> I'm sure if I missed something someone else will answer.
>
>
>   
Thanks for the info, but I don't want to go back to that early of a 
Kubuntu version.
Hopefully someone  may make a eeebuntu-9.04.
I understand kernel-2.6.28-5.12 has the wireless driver I need for my 
eeePC 1000  Ralink Rt2790 card.



From joelol75 at verizon.net  Sat Jan 24 19:25:54 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:25:54 -0500
Subject: Kubuntu-9.04 Add-Remove Sftware
In-Reply-To: <1232812835.26349.1.camel@tao>
References: <497B329B.60805@sbcglobal.net> <1232812835.26349.1.camel@tao>
Message-ID: <497B6B42.6000108@verizon.net>

Girard Henri wrote:
> i stop using jaunty because kdenetwork is broken and no way to use
> internet any more !
> i guess you have no more internet either ?
>
> Le samedi 24 janvier 2009 à 10:24 -0500, Jim a écrit :
>   
>> Is this the correct place to post on Kubuntu-9.04
>> The Software-Sources in Adept , no matter who you select, they all Fail.
>> Yes, eth0 is UP.
>>
>>     
>
>
>   
Use Gnome network manager or better yet, use Wicd





From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Sat Jan 24 19:36:39 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:36:39 -0600
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net>	<497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>
	<497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <497B6DC7.7090909@swbell.net>

Jim wrote:
> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>> Jim wrote:
>>   
>>> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>>>     
>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> Does anyone have the latest version of Kubuntu install on a Asus EEEpc
>>>>> 1000, I'm mainly concerned about the Ralink RT2970 Wireless card.
>>>>> Does the Wireless have a driver for it ?
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>> You could install Eeebuntu and then install the KDE desktop.
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>> Can you select desktop during install or after install ?
>>> How would you do it.
>>>
>>>     
>> Install Eeebuntu. Open Synaptic. Install KDE.
>>
>> On boot you should be able to choose the desktop manager. I believe 
>> default is the last used so once your into KDE and shut down it should 
>> be the default desktop.
>>
>> I'm sure if I missed something someone else will answer.
>>
>>
>>   
> Thanks for the info, but I don't want to go back to that early of a 
> Kubuntu version.
> Hopefully someone  may make a eeebuntu-9.04.
> I understand kernel-2.6.28-5.12 has the wireless driver I need for my 
> eeePC 1000  Ralink Rt2790 card.
> 

I don't know about the 1000 but Eeebuntu worked right-out-of-the-box on 
my 900. It's a specially optimized version for the EeePC. I'm sure 
Eeebuntu 9.04 will be out about the time Ubuntu 9.04 is if you want to 
wait a couple months. Otherwise I would install the Eeebuntu version 
available and see if it works. Probably will. YMMV
-- 
- -
Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.



From michael at weblore.com  Sat Jan 24 19:42:12 2009
From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:42:12 -0600
Subject: Printing to CD/DVD
Message-ID: <200901241342.12464.michael@weblore.com>

I have an HP D5360 printer ... althought there are quite a few other printers 
that could be affected. This printer has a tray in which a printable CD/DVD 
can be loaded to print to the label. The problem that I'm having is finding a 
way in Hardy to print to this tray.

Quite a bit of software allows me to print to this tray (OpenOffice, for 
example). The problem is getting something that is reasonably easy to create 
the label in, followed by a print. The diameters of both the Cd and the Hole 
in the middle need to be visible - which appears to rule out OpenOffice. 
GLabels does this part very well ... but has no way to print to this tray. 
HPLIP makes the tray accessible, but GLabels doesn't appear to take their 
printer configuration from the driver.

I've tried printing to a PDF ... but KPDF doesn't allow printing to this tray 
either.

Does anyone have any suggestions




From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org  Sat Jan 24 19:50:14 2009
From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:50:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Where is the software?
Message-ID: <20090124195014.D012371C001@xpresso.com>

Does anyone know if there's working versions of moodss/
moomps for kubuntu yet?  Is anyone even working on
whatever the problem is?  I'm dealing with fiesty, but
I'd definitely upgrade if.....

Bill


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From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 24 20:02:04 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:02:04 -0500
Subject: Can't update
Message-ID: <497B73BC.8080108@sbcglobal.net>

This is happening in Kubuntu-9.04.
Can't update.
I also get a error sbout "some obsolete package versions installed" 
(their lib files), but I can't get updates until I resolve 
'us.archive.ubuntu.com', connection
The network is working fine with eth0 and Ican go to that URL with the 
Konqueror web browser.

 
Download failed.
The list of errors is attached. The recovery for this case is currently 
not implemented. If you see 404 errors, it might be useful to try 
fetching package lists (see the Sources tab) and retrying the operation.

The error was:
APT Error. Context:
    Package download failed,
    
http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_10.0.15.3ubuntu2_i386.deb: 
Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com',
    
http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/alsa-plugins/libasound2-plugins_1.0.18-1ubuntu3_i386.deb: 
Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com',
    
http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/useragentswitcher/useragentswitcher_0.6.11-0ubuntu2_all.deb: 
Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'



From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 24 20:03:43 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:03:43 +1100
Subject: FW: re grub error 17
In-Reply-To: <4413284c0901230347t385794ehd034c39e239b7d20@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU143-W4258C10682532243066DA1CDD50@phx.gbl>
	<4413284c0901190800l283d2fcfx4cdd42603dc09af5@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W4565AB415EB19BF2D3C65FCDD30@phx.gbl>
	<4413284c0901210504y3448cc20n5fa22b9b7b158015@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W43C0748CA73FC84D9BD2A5CDD10@phx.gbl>
	<4413284c0901211216h67169524w44a34764661c234b@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU143-W102DEF3EFB16A9E1E48F51CDD10@phx.gbl> 
	<4413284c0901230347t385794ehd034c39e239b7d20@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <BLU143-W18F0EA31156E684682D41FCDCC0@phx.gbl>


I forgot one thing read in red

From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: re grub error 17
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:17:49 +1100








Herve I am in xp pro,

 

Yes that is right what you say below, and I already have a bkup of kubuntu

done when in xp pro I clonned thru paragon drive copy 8

as Ghost did not work?????

 

PS the main xp pro is on dev/sda1

the backup xp pro is on dev/sdh1

both have only one partition

 

hope this helps to find a resolution to my problem

ray
PS I mean to say that I have of "K" that it sitting in a switchable
external usb hdd drive






Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:47:37 +0100
Subject: Re: re grub error 17
From: Herve at lucidia.net
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com

Hello Ray,

I think I see the problem. Can you confirm that:
* /dev/sda is your Windows disk, with one partition: /dev/sda1 (called BKUP_MAN ???)
* /dev/sdb is your Kubuntu disk, with several partitions
* /dev/sdh is your backup disk, with one partition: /dev/sdh1 (called BKUP_MAN-1)
* you do not have a backup of Kubuntu

As I see it:
* /dev/sdh (the full disk) is the backup of /dev/sda, including the boot record, where grub is.
* grub looks for its startup files on /dev/sdb
* when you boot with the backup disk connected, the BIOS boots the backup disk, with the broken grub

Or:
* the BIOS sees the backup disk (when present at boot) as the second hard disk, and GRUB therefore looks for its files in the wrong place (/dev/sdh instead of /dev/sdb).

One thing is sure: you'd be better off with grub on /dev/sdb, so all Linux-related stuff remains together. You'd then have to tell your BIOS to boot from your Linux disk instead of the Windows one. IOW, tell you BIOS to boot from the slave disk on the primary controller. But this requires a bit of fidling with grub on the command line, which is not for the faint of heart!

Otherwise, tell your BIOS to not probe for USB disks if that is possible.

Of course I could be wrong!
Hervé



2009/1/22 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>


Herve I am in K,

I booted up with the k live cd, and once up then turned on the external usb disk drive
and did a $df -h  and a $df /boot see below
**********************************************************************
 rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df -h
Filesystem            Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1              18G  7.6G  9.0G  46% /
varrun                474M  160K  474M   1% /var/run
varlock               474M     0  474M   0% /var/lock
udev                  474M   88K  474M   1% /dev
devshm                474M     0  474M   0% /dev/shm
lrm                   474M   38M  437M   8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile
/dev/sdb2              19G  6.2G   13G  34% /home
/dev/sda1              75G   39G   36G  52% /media/BKUP MAN
/dev/sdh1              75G   37G   38G  50% /media/BKUP MAN-1
rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df /boot
Filesystem           1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1             1 rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df -h
Filesystem            Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1              18G  7.6G  9.0G  46% /
varrun                474M  160K  474M   1% /var/run
varlock               474M     0  474M   0% /var/lock
udev                  474M   88K  474M   1% /dev
devshm                474M     0  474M   0% /dev/shm
lrm                   474M   38M  437M   8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile
/dev/sdb2              19G  6.2G   13G  34% /home
/dev/sda1              75G   39G   36G  52% /media/BKUP MAN
/dev/sdh1              75G   37G   38G  50% /media/BKUP MAN-1
rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$ df /boot
Filesystem           1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1             18034492   7909904   9397488  46% /
rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$
8034492   7909904   9397488  46% /
rayburke at rayburke-desktop:~$
*************************************************************************************

so as you see the main xp pro is sda1 and the external usb is sdh1 and
only have one boot on sdb1?????
so await your advise

ray





Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:16:51 +0100



Subject: Re: re grub error 17
From: Herve at lucidia.net
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com

Hi Ray,


2009/1/21 Ray Burke <rayburke30 at hotmail.com>


Herve,
 
I am sorry as kost of my questions on the forum go astray!!!!!
No worries :-) 




when I boot from the backup disk it just continually says gub, but this was a 
clonned copy thru ghost 3 of the main xp pro??
I s'pose ghost did not just copy the disk... I actually don't know this program. I use dd which is not very beautiful being command line and all that, but does exactly what's written on the tin :-)



 
do I do this $ df /boot when in K and with just my xp pro drive and linux drive?????
Sorry, you'd do this from the command line (Konsole) in Kubuntu. Sorry again for my use of command line, I actually don't know the graphical tools though I know they exist.
 
To copy the disks, I'd boot from a LiveCD of Kubuntu, so none of the hard disks are being used, then I'd make a bit-for-bit copy of my disks to the backup; that's what dd does.

For example, when you start from the LiveCD, your main hard disk maybe /dev/sdc and your backup disk /dev/sdb, do you'd copy like so:
$ dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb

This means copy from input 'file' (if) /dev/sdc to output 'file' (of) /dev/sdb, and it preserves the boot record and partition table.

You can also copy partitions the same way (after checking that destination >= source). For example:
$ dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sdb4

Good luck,
Hervé



 
ray



Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:04:04 +0100

Subject: Re: re grub error 17
From: Herve at lucidia.net
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com




Hello Ray,

Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal e-mail.

I - Booting with the backup disks on

If your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on, then my guess is that you have two grubs:
* one on the main hard drive (the one you want)
* at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't)
and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you probably know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section (its location depends on your BIOS).

II - Error 17

The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example, Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and /dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this:

$ df /boot

which gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet):
/dev/sda8             52506748   3838592  46000968   8% /

I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of help.
Hervé




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From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 24 20:09:37 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:09:37 -0500
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <497B6DC7.7090909@swbell.net>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net>	<497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>	<497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<497B6DC7.7090909@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <497B7581.7030609@sbcglobal.net>

Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>   
>> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>>     
>>> Jim wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Jim <mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Does anyone have the latest version of Kubuntu install on a Asus EEEpc
>>>>>> 1000, I'm mainly concerned about the Ralink RT2970 Wireless card.
>>>>>> Does the Wireless have a driver for it ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> You could install Eeebuntu and then install the KDE desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> Can you select desktop during install or after install ?
>>>> How would you do it.
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Install Eeebuntu. Open Synaptic. Install KDE.
>>>
>>> On boot you should be able to choose the desktop manager. I believe 
>>> default is the last used so once your into KDE and shut down it should 
>>> be the default desktop.
>>>
>>> I'm sure if I missed something someone else will answer.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> Thanks for the info, but I don't want to go back to that early of a 
>> Kubuntu version.
>> Hopefully someone  may make a eeebuntu-9.04.
>> I understand kernel-2.6.28-5.12 has the wireless driver I need for my 
>> eeePC 1000  Ralink Rt2790 card.
>>
>>     
>
> I don't know about the 1000 but Eeebuntu worked right-out-of-the-box on 
> my 900. It's a specially optimized version for the EeePC. I'm sure 
> Eeebuntu 9.04 will be out about the time Ubuntu 9.04 is if you want to 
> wait a couple months. Otherwise I would install the Eeebuntu version 
> available and see if it works. Probably will. YMMV
>   
I guess I got nothing to loose, and everything to gain.
I sure do like the new KDE-4.1 .



From claydoh at midmaine.com  Sat Jan 24 20:19:38 2009
From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:19:38 -0500
Subject: Where is the software?
In-Reply-To: <20090124195014.D012371C001@xpresso.com>
References: <20090124195014.D012371C001@xpresso.com>
Message-ID: <200901241519.39673.claydoh@midmaine.com>

On Saturday 24 January 2009 2:50:14 pm Bill Vance wrote:
> Does anyone know if there's working versions of moodss/
> moomps for kubuntu yet?  Is anyone even working on
> whatever the problem is?  I'm dealing with fiesty, but
> I'd definitely upgrade if.....
>
> Bill
>
From looking at
http://packages.ubuntu.com, there are no packages for this past Gutsy (and 
they all have the same version)
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=moomps&searchon=names

Plus, looking at the software's home page 
http://moodss.sourceforge.net/
and sourceforge section, 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/moodss/

there has been no releases or news since November 2006, so I am guessing 
that it is no longer maintained by it's creator(s).

-- 
Clay Weber (claydoh)




From claydoh at midmaine.com  Sat Jan 24 20:23:18 2009
From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:23:18 -0500
Subject: Can't update
In-Reply-To: <497B73BC.8080108@sbcglobal.net>
References: <497B73BC.8080108@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901241523.18961.claydoh@midmaine.com>

On Saturday 24 January 2009 3:02:04 pm Jim wrote:
> This is happening in Kubuntu-9.04.
> Can't update.
> I also get a error sbout "some obsolete package versions installed"
> (their lib files), but I can't get updates until I resolve
> 'us.archive.ubuntu.com', connection
> The network is working fine with eth0 and Ican go to that URL with the
> Konqueror web browser.
>
>
> Download failed.
> The list of errors is attached. The recovery for this case is currently
> not implemented. If you see 404 errors, it might be useful to try
> fetching package lists (see the Sources tab) and retrying the operation.
>
> The error was:
> APT Error. Context:
>     Package download failed,
>
> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/f
>lashplugin-nonfree_10.0.15.3ubuntu2_i386.deb: Could not resolve
> 'us.archive.ubuntu.com',
>
> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/alsa-plugins/libasound2-
plu
>gins_1.0.18-1ubuntu3_i386.deb: Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com',
>
> 
http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/useragentswitcher/usera
>gentswitcher_0.6.11-0ubuntu2_all.deb: Could not resolve
> 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'


Have you tried changing to a different sever/country? Sometimes switching to 
the Main server helps if the particular server you are connecting to is having 
problems.
-- 
Clay Weber (claydoh)




From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 24 20:40:32 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:40:32 -0500
Subject: Can't update
In-Reply-To: <200901241523.18961.claydoh@midmaine.com>
References: <497B73BC.8080108@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901241523.18961.claydoh@midmaine.com>
Message-ID: <497B7CC0.90401@sbcglobal.net>

Clay Weber wrote:
> On Saturday 24 January 2009 3:02:04 pm Jim wrote:
>   
>> This is happening in Kubuntu-9.04.
>> Can't update.
>> I also get a error sbout "some obsolete package versions installed"
>> (their lib files), but I can't get updates until I resolve
>> 'us.archive.ubuntu.com', connection
>> The network is working fine with eth0 and Ican go to that URL with the
>> Konqueror web browser.
>>
>>
>> Download failed.
>> The list of errors is attached. The recovery for this case is currently
>> not implemented. If you see 404 errors, it might be useful to try
>> fetching package lists (see the Sources tab) and retrying the operation.
>>
>> The error was:
>> APT Error. Context:
>>     Package download failed,
>>
>> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/f
>> lashplugin-nonfree_10.0.15.3ubuntu2_i386.deb: Could not resolve
>> 'us.archive.ubuntu.com',
>>
>> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/alsa-plugins/libasound2-
>>     
> plu
>   
>> gins_1.0.18-1ubuntu3_i386.deb: Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com',
>>
>>
>>     
> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/useragentswitcher/usera
>   
>> gentswitcher_0.6.11-0ubuntu2_all.deb: Could not resolve
>> 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
>>     
>
>
> Have you tried changing to a different sever/country? Sometimes switching to 
> the Main server helps if the particular server you are connecting to is having 
> problems.
>   
I tried the "Main" site and got the same error message, "Could not resolve"



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Sat Jan 24 20:49:27 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:49:27 -0400
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>
	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>
	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>
	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net> <497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>
	<497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <nfbs46-vck.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Jim wrote:

>> Install Eeebuntu. Open Synaptic. Install KDE.
>>
>> On boot you should be able to choose the desktop manager. I believe
>> default is the last used so once your into KDE and shut down it should
>> be the default desktop.
>>
>> I'm sure if I missed something someone else will answer.
>>
> Thanks for the info, but I don't want to go back to that early of a
> Kubuntu version.
> Hopefully someone  may make a eeebuntu-9.04.
> I understand kernel-2.6.28-5.12 has the wireless driver I need for my
> eeePC 1000  Ralink Rt2790 card.

There's no need to "go back".  Start with whatever Ubuntu you can get, 
update the repositories to the current version, upgrade, and install 
kubuntu-desktop.  Done.  Don't boot to the newest kernel if it doesn't 
support the EEE.






From ken at art-science.com  Sat Jan 24 21:02:28 2009
From: ken at art-science.com (Ken Baldry)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:02:28 +0000
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 System settings
Message-ID: <497B81E4.8090809@art-science.com>

Hi,
Help! I have just loaded this on a Samsung NC10. Under "System 
Setting"/"Network", much of the stuff shown in the on-line manual is 
missing. I need to configure my eth0 to a fixed IP address (because of 
all the stuff on my network) & configure eth1 (wireless port) to get 
onto wireless, either here or down the local caff.
On my other Linux machine (ancient Pentium III), I have Mandrive 2008.1 
but that won't load at all on the Samsung. Would be grateful for any hints.
Ken
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From art.alexion at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 00:52:21 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:52:21 -0500
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <nfbs46-vck.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>
	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>
	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>
	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net> <497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>
	<497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net> <nfbs46-vck.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00901241652k61d66422xbe46b0bfd904af0e@mail.gmail.com>

Yep. I install ubuntu-eee on our small, but growing fleet of 1000s at
work.  I keep 8.04 because of LTS, but there really shouldn't be a
problem upgrading to 8.10 if you want (according to the eee-user
forums).



On 1/24/09, Derek Broughton <derek at pointerstop.ca> wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>
>>> Install Eeebuntu. Open Synaptic. Install KDE.
>>>
>>> On boot you should be able to choose the desktop manager. I believe
>>> default is the last used so once your into KDE and shut down it should
>>> be the default desktop.
>>>
>>> I'm sure if I missed something someone else will answer.
>>>
>> Thanks for the info, but I don't want to go back to that early of a
>> Kubuntu version.
>> Hopefully someone  may make a eeebuntu-9.04.
>> I understand kernel-2.6.28-5.12 has the wireless driver I need for my
>> eeePC 1000  Ralink Rt2790 card.
>
> There's no need to "go back".  Start with whatever Ubuntu you can get,
> update the repositories to the current version, upgrade, and install
> kubuntu-desktop.  Done.  Don't boot to the newest kernel if it doesn't
> support the EEE.
>
>
>
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From grey at dmiyu.org  Sun Jan 25 03:30:00 2009
From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:30:00 -0800
Subject: Wallpaper in latest KDE4.2
Message-ID: <497BDCB8.7060102@dmiyu.org>

Hello,
    Anyone else having problems displaying a wallpaper in the latest update of
KDE 4.2?  Curls is gone and replaced with Air.  However my background is a
plain blue.  When I set it to Air, even manually, nothing displays but the
plain color background.

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From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 25 05:37:53 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:37:53 -0500
Subject: HELP NEEDED - Kubuntu 8.04 will not boot to login screen. What
	do I 	do now???
In-Reply-To: <bb1c4c350901230136g6296989em56c5c2e87a0b9d20@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bb1c4c350901230136g6296989em56c5c2e87a0b9d20@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497BFAB1.3020206@gatech.edu>

Peter Williams wrote:
> I urgently need help to fix my computer. I have previously had Kubuntu
> 8.04 installed and it seemed to be working okay. Then I decided that I
> did not want to use KDE 4

Can you explain further?  Kubuntu 8.04 (which I'm using) comes with KDE
3.5.  Did you install the kde4 package?

> and only use the Gnome Desktop Manager with
> KDE 3.5.

Why not just use KDE 3.5?

> I used the Synaptic Package Manager to remove much of the KDE 4
> with the intention of keeping KDE 3.5 and using the Gnome Desktop Manager.

You probably removed KDE 3.5.

> If I boot my computer WITHOUT the Mint Linux 5.1 Live Boot disk -- then
> I get dumped at the terminal login screen for Kubuntu 8.04 (I think).
> The terminal login screen confuses me no-end....

As Eberhard said, you should be able to just enter the same user name
and password you used for the graphical login.  If you can successfully
login, do:

sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --reinstall

That should install Kubuntu again.  It may take a long time.  When it
completes, do

sudo reboot

Your computer will restart, and KDE (3.5) should be up and running again.

If you can't login, post the actual prompt you're looking at.

> quote: ---
> 
> System Settings / Advanced / Autostart -- click Add Program. Type in
> nm-applet which is the Gnome one. From then on it should start with the
> KDE Session.
> 
> ----end quote.

That's information about NetworkManager.  It won't help you get your GUI
back.

> And the newer KDE 4 programs were conflicting with the older KDE 3.5 programs.

Yes, a beginner really shouldn't be using kde4 on 8.04.

Matt Flaschen




From pewtas at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 06:55:57 2009
From: pewtas at gmail.com (Peter Williams)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:55:57 +1100
Subject: HELP NEEDED - Kubuntu 8.04 will not boot to login screen. What do
	I do now???
In-Reply-To: <497BFAB1.3020206@gatech.edu>
References: <bb1c4c350901230136g6296989em56c5c2e87a0b9d20@mail.gmail.com>
	<497BFAB1.3020206@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <bb1c4c350901242255m7f8e7c6em3885ac4348ae2d59@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All Fellow Ubuntu and Kubuntu people.

and to the Ubuntu-Australian list

Hello All,

And hello to all of the nice and friendly ppl I met at the
Linux.conf.auOpen Day yesterday @ the Hobart Wrest Point - Tasman
Rooms. I was really
pleased to finally met so very many friendly faces... everyone was very
nice!!! (of course!)

My system now seems to be quite stable.

This website help me a lot:

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnomehardy

I ended up using the *Remove Kubuntu*
Pasting the command (in the black box) into the terminal shell (which is an
extremely long command!!!)

Fingers-crossed it seems to have worked. I now have a Gnome DE with Ubuntu
8.04 - the Hardy Heron - released in April 2008 (according to the help
page).

I'm now happily using AMAROK fantastic music playing program and listening
to some of my ripped music -- The Beatles!

I'm still gradually tweaking my system -- but it seems to be working fine!!!
;-)

Yours Faithfully, Optimistically and With Much Love,
PEW aka PeteThePoet from Hobart, Australia

Fond Regards,
Peter Eric (aka 'pew') WILLIAMS
from Hobart, Tasmania, Australia -- phone (03) 6236-9675

My free website is: http://pewtas.googlepages.com  (or)
http://tinyurl.com/yuyejs

(please visit my free website and let me know what you think about it.)
Robert Benchley  - "Drawing on my fine command of the English language, I
said nothing."

2009/1/25 Matthew Flaschen <matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu>

> Peter Williams wrote:
> > I urgently need help to fix my computer. I have previously had Kubuntu
> > 8.04 installed and it seemed to be working okay. Then I decided that I
> > did not want to use KDE 4
>
> Can you explain further?  Kubuntu 8.04 (which I'm using) comes with KDE
> 3.5.  Did you install the kde4 package?
>
> > and only use the Gnome Desktop Manager with
> > KDE 3.5.
>
> Why not just use KDE 3.5?
>
> > I used the Synaptic Package Manager to remove much of the KDE 4
> > with the intention of keeping KDE 3.5 and using the Gnome Desktop
> Manager.
>
> You probably removed KDE 3.5.
>
> > If I boot my computer WITHOUT the Mint Linux 5.1 Live Boot disk -- then
> > I get dumped at the terminal login screen for Kubuntu 8.04 (I think).
> > The terminal login screen confuses me no-end....
>
> As Eberhard said, you should be able to just enter the same user name
> and password you used for the graphical login.  If you can successfully
> login, do:
>
> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --reinstall
>
> That should install Kubuntu again.  It may take a long time.  When it
> completes, do
>
> sudo reboot
>
> Your computer will restart, and KDE (3.5) should be up and running again.
>
> If you can't login, post the actual prompt you're looking at.
>
> > quote: ---
> >
> > System Settings / Advanced / Autostart -- click Add Program. Type in
> > nm-applet which is the Gnome one. From then on it should start with the
> > KDE Session.
> >
> > ----end quote.
>
> That's information about NetworkManager.  It won't help you get your GUI
> back.
>
> > And the newer KDE 4 programs were conflicting with the older KDE 3.5
> programs.
>
> Yes, a beginner really shouldn't be using kde4 on 8.04.
>
> Matt Flaschen
>
>
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From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org  Sun Jan 25 07:07:14 2009
From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:07:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Where is the software?
In-Reply-To: <200901241519.39673.claydoh@midmaine.com>
Message-ID: <20090125070714.8261271C001@xpresso.com>

Clay Weber wrote:

>On Saturday 24 January 2009 2:50:14 pm Bill Vance wrote:
>> Does anyone know if there's working versions of moodss/
>> moomps for kubuntu yet?  Is anyone even working on
>> whatever the problem is?  I'm dealing with fiesty, but
>> I'd definitely upgrade if.....
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>From looking at
>http://packages.ubuntu.com, there are no packages for this past Gutsy (and 
>they all have the same version)
>http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=moomps&searchon=names
>
>Plus, looking at the software's home page 
>http://moodss.sourceforge.net/
>and sourceforge section, 
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/moodss/
>
>there has been no releases or news since November 2006, so I am guessing 
>that it is no longer maintained by it's creator(s).
>
>-- 
>Clay Weber (claydoh)


The last word I had about a year ago, was that there
were a couple of support packages that needed work for
kubuntu, but these were basic linux lib type stuff
that no one was dealling with at the time.....:-(

Bill


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From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sun Jan 25 07:26:17 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:26:17 -0500
Subject: HELP NEEDED - Kubuntu 8.04 will not boot to login screen. What
	do 	I do now???
In-Reply-To: <bb1c4c350901242255m7f8e7c6em3885ac4348ae2d59@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bb1c4c350901230136g6296989em56c5c2e87a0b9d20@mail.gmail.com>	
	<497BFAB1.3020206@gatech.edu>
	<bb1c4c350901242255m7f8e7c6em3885ac4348ae2d59@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497C1419.8010700@gatech.edu>

Peter Williams wrote:
> This website help me a lot:
> 
> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnomehardy
> 
> I ended up using the *Remove Kubuntu*
> Pasting the command (in the black box) into the terminal shell (which is
> an extremely long command!!!)

The remove Kubuntu part obviously didn't give you a GUI (it just removes
various KDE packages, and a lot of packages that aren't KDE-related at
all), but it also has sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop at the end,
which installs GNOME.

> I'm now happily using AMAROK fantastic music playing program and
> listening to some of my ripped music -- The Beatles!

You realize Amarok is a KDE application, right?

Matt Flaschen




From pewtas at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 07:50:11 2009
From: pewtas at gmail.com (Peter Williams)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:50:11 +1100
Subject: HELP NEEDED - Kubuntu 8.04 will not boot to login screen. What do
	I do now???
In-Reply-To: <497C1419.8010700@gatech.edu>
References: <bb1c4c350901230136g6296989em56c5c2e87a0b9d20@mail.gmail.com>
	<497BFAB1.3020206@gatech.edu>
	<bb1c4c350901242255m7f8e7c6em3885ac4348ae2d59@mail.gmail.com>
	<497C1419.8010700@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <bb1c4c350901242350i418ebdd1x897c27478194f1ae@mail.gmail.com>

G'day Matthew and All (K)ubuntu folk,

And also to the Ubuntu-au list and
the Ubuntulinux at YahooGroup.com

G'day All

(my comments are below)

Fond Regards,
Peter Eric (aka 'pew') WILLIAMS
from Hobart, Tasmania, Australia -- phone (03) 6236-9675

My free website is: http://pewtas.googlepages.com  (or)
http://tinyurl.com/yuyejs

(please visit my free website and let me know what you think about it.)

George Burns  - "You can't help getting older, but you don't have to get
old."

2009/1/25 Matthew Flaschen <matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu>

> Peter Williams wrote:
> > This website help me a lot:
> >
> > http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnomehardy
> >
> > I ended up using the *Remove Kubuntu*
> > Pasting the command (in the black box) into the terminal shell (which is
> > an extremely long command!!!)
>
> The remove Kubuntu part obviously didn't give you a GUI (it just removes
> various KDE packages, and a lot of packages that aren't KDE-related at
> all), but it also has sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop at the end,
> which installs GNOME.
>

I'm happily using a very complicated GNOME system WITH KDE also. I *seems*
to be extremely stable and I'm very happy with it.


>
> > I'm now happily using AMAROK fantastic music playing program and
> > listening to some of my ripped music -- The Beatles!
>
> You realize Amarok is a KDE application, right?
>

Yes I know that. I don't really know what point you're trying to make. I
have GNOME DE happily co-existing with KDE (not sure what version). AMAROK
is working flawlessly!!!

I'm very happy with my desktop pc (I'm using now)!!!!

Yours Faithfully, Optimistically and With Much Love,
PEW aka PeterThePoet


> Matt Flaschen
>
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From arnaud.bourree at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 08:33:08 2009
From: arnaud.bourree at gmail.com (Arnaud bourree)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:33:08 +0100
Subject: Enabled Wifi when there is no wire
In-Reply-To: <enbp46-olp.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <ac06429e0901220157o144d805bl3982fa98a4ee25e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901220910.57647.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<ac06429e0901221049g278d750bq17c986d2612f0c5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<enbp46-olp.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <ac06429e0901250033t55887846i2684eb44d1f8234f@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, NetworkManager icon is wired icon when wire is plugged but it still
display list of available wireless networks.
What I expect is to automatically switch off wifi when wired and switch on
when unplugged

Arnaud.

2009/1/23 Derek Broughton <derek at pointerstop.ca>

> Arnaud bourree wrote:
>
> > What's imagine is more an automatic solution like register on eth0
> up/down
> > events to disable/enable wifi
> >
> > Arnaud
> >
> > 2009/1/22 Pastor JW <pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org>
> >
> >> On Thursday 22 January 2009 1:57:51 am Arnaud bourree wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I'd like to configure my laptop in order to only enable Wifi (eth1)
> >> > when there is no wire (eth0).
> >> > How can I do it?
>
> My experience is that NetworkManager always chooses wired over wire, and
> _should_ (but doesn't always) try to enable wifi whenever a wire is
> disconnected.
>
>
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From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 08:42:41 2009
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:42:41 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu 8.04.2 ??
In-Reply-To: <497B62C8.6050505@candt.waitrose.com>
References: <497B1546.9020407@gmail.com> <497B62C8.6050505@candt.waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <497C2601.2090700@gmail.com>

alan c wrote:
> O. Sinclair wrote:
>> Have noticed that Gnome Ubuntu 8.04.2 has been released. Where or when 
>> is Kubuntu 8.04.2??? As it would save me download time plenty when 
>> installing new computers.
> 
> you might want to consider
> aptoncd
> for the first one, I think that will capture your updates maybe?
> 
If they are all the same model I think u are correct, am not so sure if 
they are different in hardware. Will try to check. Nevertheless: why no 
Kubuntu 8.04.2 when there is a Gnome 8.04.2?





From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 12:12:11 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:12:11 +0200
Subject: Terrible video performance: ATI w/ proprietary driver
Message-ID: <880dece00901250412j2f0fca72odc1dad683c67742e@mail.gmail.com>

I have been running Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy for several months with the
proprietary ATI driver with no problems. This weekend I reinstalled
Hardy and although I am using the same ATI driver, the video
performance is terrible. Compiz is sluggish, video cannot be played at
x2 speed, and Google Earth complains about OpenGL due to video driver
issues. Even opening graphics-laden PDF files is sluggish to the point
where I cannot use them.

How should I go about troubleshooting this?

hardy1 at hardy1-laptop:~$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
..snip..
Section "Device"
        Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
        Driver          "fglrx"
EndSection
..snip..
hardy1 at hardy1-laptop:~$ lspci | grep ati
..snip
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400
..snip..


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From amichai at iglu.org.il  Sun Jan 25 12:12:11 2009
From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:12:11 +0200
Subject: Kichensync and KAddressbook encoding
Message-ID: <d9b8deb40901250412o3a4e3f8blad2aebaa6f82ae84@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I am running Kubuntu 8.04.2 with KDE 3.5.10.

I am trying to synchronize my Nokia E71 with KDE-PIM using Kitchensync and
opensync over Bluetooth.

Most of my contacts are in Hebrew, and after the synchronization, when I
open the KAddresbook, all the Hebrew characters show up as question marks.

I also noticed a similar problem in DigiKam's tags.\

It seems to have happened after I upgraded a few packages from the KDE4
PPA's repo for Hardy...

All the Locale fields are set to LANG=en_US.UTF-8

How do i fix this?

Also, is there a way to backup my digiKam tags tree?

Thanks!

.:====================================================:.

Amichai Rotman

UIN#: 6401746
Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/]
Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net]

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From amichai at iglu.org.il  Sun Jan 25 12:36:17 2009
From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:36:17 +0200
Subject: Changing the default icon in the System Tray
Message-ID: <d9b8deb40901250436r420d15e6s4aa54bcd1c066bc1@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am running Kubuntu 8.04.2 with KDE 3.5.10.

I would like to change the defaul icon for the KBluetooth daemon.

Is it possible? If yes - how?

Thanks!

.:====================================================:.

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UIN#: 6401746
Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/]
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From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 12:58:56 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:58:56 +0200
Subject: Terrible video performance: ATI w/ proprietary driver
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901250412j2f0fca72odc1dad683c67742e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00901250412j2f0fca72odc1dad683c67742e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00901250458y2b3e0509ofbd013a4863f1e7d@mail.gmail.com>

Nevermind, I removed xserver-xgl to switch from the Mesa drivers to
the ATI drivers and now it's fine.

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From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 25 13:03:52 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:03:52 -0600
Subject: Changing the default icon in the System Tray
In-Reply-To: <d9b8deb40901250436r420d15e6s4aa54bcd1c066bc1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d9b8deb40901250436r420d15e6s4aa54bcd1c066bc1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901250703.53165.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Sunday 25 January 2009 6:36:17 am Amichai Rotman wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am running Kubuntu 8.04.2 with KDE 3.5.10.
>
> I would like to change the defaul icon for the KBluetooth daemon.
>
> Is it possible? If yes - how?

Technically, it's possible.  But it involves getting the source, changing the 
icon and compiling.  Practically, I'd say no.  The system tray icons generally 
aren't made to be changed, sadly.



From jonorland at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 13:29:55 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:29:55 +0100
Subject: Changing the default icon in the System Tray
In-Reply-To: <200901250703.53165.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <d9b8deb40901250436r420d15e6s4aa54bcd1c066bc1@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901250703.53165.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901250529x23f09796p63033673109ab3df@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/25 Constantinos Maltezos <pandarsson at yahoo.com>:
> On Sunday 25 January 2009 6:36:17 am Amichai Rotman wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am running Kubuntu 8.04.2 with KDE 3.5.10.
>>
>> I would like to change the defaul icon for the KBluetooth daemon.
>>
>> Is it possible? If yes - how?
>
> Technically, it's possible.  But it involves getting the source, changing the
> icon and compiling.  Practically, I'd say no.  The system tray icons generally
> aren't made to be changed, sadly.
>

Are you sure? Most of the times the icons and pictures for KDE are
normal png files and is stored in /usr/share/icons/ or somewhere under
/usr/share/kde4/. So I think it would be possible to backup the icon
in question and replace it with the one you wont.

/ Jonas



From amichai at iglu.org.il  Sun Jan 25 15:17:00 2009
From: amichai at iglu.org.il (Amichai Rotman)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:17:00 +0200
Subject: Changing the default icon in the System Tray
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901250529x23f09796p63033673109ab3df@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d9b8deb40901250436r420d15e6s4aa54bcd1c066bc1@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901250703.53165.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<b8d784880901250529x23f09796p63033673109ab3df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d9b8deb40901250717v6175d81amd0cb2068daa364ba@mail.gmail.com>

So, is it like Jonas says?

If so - what are the steps to be taken?

.:====================================================:.

Amichai Rotman

UIN#: 6401746
Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/]
Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net]

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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 15:29, Jonas Norlander <jonorland at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/1/25 Constantinos Maltezos <pandarsson at yahoo.com>:
> > On Sunday 25 January 2009 6:36:17 am Amichai Rotman wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I am running Kubuntu 8.04.2 with KDE 3.5.10.
> >>
> >> I would like to change the defaul icon for the KBluetooth daemon.
> >>
> >> Is it possible? If yes - how?
> >
> > Technically, it's possible.  But it involves getting the source, changing
> the
> > icon and compiling.  Practically, I'd say no.  The system tray icons
> generally
> > aren't made to be changed, sadly.
> >
>
> Are you sure? Most of the times the icons and pictures for KDE are
> normal png files and is stored in /usr/share/icons/ or somewhere under
> /usr/share/kde4/. So I think it would be possible to backup the icon
> in question and replace it with the one you wont.
>
> / Jonas
>
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From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 25 16:05:20 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:05:20 -0500
Subject: Can't get WEP to accept KEY
Message-ID: <497C8DC0.50708@sbcglobal.net>

Installed  eeeUbuntu-8.10  on my eeePC 1000 and got Ralink wireless 
working and connects to a unsecure AP, but I need to connect to a Secure AP.

I installed KDE and remove Gnome and had WEP working in Gnome, but I 
must have left out a package at the install of KDE.

In kdenetwork I can check box for WEP but it does not allow me to enter 
a WEP key, after I click on "Expert settings" button.

What did I not install with KDE to get WEP working ?



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 25 16:12:56 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:12:56 -0500
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <nfbs46-vck.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net>
	<497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>	<497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<nfbs46-vck.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <497C8F88.6040905@sbcglobal.net>

Derek Broughton wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>
>   
>>> Install Eeebuntu. Open Synaptic. Install KDE.
>>>
>>> On boot you should be able to choose the desktop manager. I believe
>>> default is the last used so once your into KDE and shut down it should
>>> be the default desktop.
>>>
>>> I'm sure if I missed something someone else will answer.
>>>
>>>       
>> Thanks for the info, but I don't want to go back to that early of a
>> Kubuntu version.
>> Hopefully someone  may make a eeebuntu-9.04.
>> I understand kernel-2.6.28-5.12 has the wireless driver I need for my
>> eeePC 1000  Ralink Rt2790 card.
>>     
>
> There's no need to "go back".  Start with whatever Ubuntu you can get, 
> update the repositories to the current version, upgrade, and install 
> kubuntu-desktop.  Done.  Don't boot to the newest kernel if it doesn't 
> support the EEE.
>
>
>
>
>   
I just gave up  and and installed eeeUbuntu and removed Gnome and 
installed KDE, RaLink Wireless works fine in gnome but not KDE,  
kdenetwork won't let me enter a WEP key, If I check "Use Wireless 
Security" and click on "Expert setting" button it won't go any further 
to allow me to enter a WEP key.



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Sun Jan 25 17:34:34 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:34:34 +0100
Subject: Printing to CD/DVD
In-Reply-To: <200901241342.12464.michael@weblore.com>
References: <200901241342.12464.michael@weblore.com>
Message-ID: <gli7ra$o8v$1@ger.gmane.org>

Michael Satterwhite wrote:
[...]
> 
> Quite a bit of software allows me to print to this tray (OpenOffice, for 
> example). 
> 
http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm

See "Media Labels" at the bottom of the page.

regards
Eberhard




From donn.ingle at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 18:13:32 2009
From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:13:32 +0200
Subject: Some simple tutorial diagrams
Message-ID: <200901252013.32883.donn.ingle@gmail.com>

Hello all,
I did some diagrams* for Steven a few days ago; I have just got a little web 
site going (forgive any bugs, it's all custom coded...) and have put them 
online at:
http://otherwise.relics.co.za/otherwise/wiki/Tuts/Linux/Basics/

I hope they help someone out there.

\d

* -- I am sure there are mistakes and some bad design, please feel free to 
advise me.



From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com  Sun Jan 25 18:01:50 2009
From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:01:50 -0500
Subject: Changing the default icon in the System Tray
In-Reply-To: <d9b8deb40901250436r420d15e6s4aa54bcd1c066bc1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d9b8deb40901250436r420d15e6s4aa54bcd1c066bc1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497CA90E.7040603@ajinfosearch.com>

Amichai Rotman wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am running Kubuntu 8.04.2 with KDE 3.5.10.
> 
> I would like to change the defaul icon for the KBluetooth daemon.
> 
> Is it possible? If yes - how?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 

The default icon that you are talking about lives in /usr/share/icons/<your 
theme>/<size>/apps/  It is probably named kbluetooth.png or something starting 
with kb.  Look in the folder for the icon and get the name that way.

The hard way would be to get an icon that you like and replace the default with 
it, after BACKING UP what you are about to replace.  You should do it for every 
size there is, usually 16x16, 22x22, 32x32, 4848, 64x64 & 128x128, for 
consistency.  First make an icon (I use Gimp) from a picture and save it as a 
.png file in every size that you have in your <size> folders.  Then copy it as 
the default file name into the correct folder.

As an example, I use an icon theme I got from the KDE look website named 
"KDE_Crystal_Diamond_2.8_Ubuntu_Mod".  It had the Ubuntu ring as the Kmenu icon 
so I replaced the icons with the real Kmenu icon like this from the command line:

sudo mv /home/alan/Desktop/Kmenu48.png 
/usr/share/icons/KDE_Crystal_Diamond_2.8_Ubuntu_Mod/48x48/apps/kmenu.png

Now I have the blue and white K like KDE should have.

I am sure there is an easier way, but I didn't even look for one since this 
worked just fine.

Alan

-- 
"The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated 
concept.  If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in 
life and actually grok it."



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 25 18:10:07 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:10:07 -0500
Subject: Some simple tutorial diagrams
In-Reply-To: <200901252013.32883.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
References: <200901252013.32883.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497CAAFF.4050402@sbcglobal.net>

Donn wrote:
> Hello all,
> I did some diagrams* for Steven a few days ago; I have just got a little web 
> site going (forgive any bugs, it's all custom coded...) and have put them 
> online at:
> http://otherwise.relics.co.za/otherwise/wiki/Tuts/Linux/Basics/
>
> I hope they help someone out there.
>
> \d
>
> * -- I am sure there are mistakes and some bad design, please feel free to 
> advise me.
>
>   
GREAT SITE !!! this is a good site for Newbies to lean the Linux 
filemanager and filesystem so they navigate around to find  their files.
I've notice that all Newbies have trouble of placing and finding their 
files, after they get over that hurdle then their on there way to really 
grasping Linux.
I will pass this on to all my Newbies that I draw to Linux.

Keep up the good work Donn



From donn.ingle at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 18:31:23 2009
From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:31:23 +0200
Subject: Some simple tutorial diagrams
In-Reply-To: <497CAAFF.4050402@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901252013.32883.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
	<497CAAFF.4050402@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901252031.23741.donn.ingle@gmail.com>

On Sunday, 25 January 2009 20:10:07 Jim wrote:
> GREAT SITE !!! this is a good site for Newbies to lean the Linux
> filemanager and filesystem so they navigate around to find  their files.

Thanks! It's nice to get feedback.

\d



From art.alexion at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 18:20:59 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:20:59 -0500
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
Message-ID: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>

With more people testing pre-release versions of 9.04, I am wondering if 4.2 
will ever make it to the 8.10 repositories.

4.2 was earlier projected to hit Intrepid in December.
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From sgrace at pobox.com  Sun Jan 25 18:37:08 2009
From: sgrace at pobox.com (Steve Grace)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:37:08 -0800
Subject: Some simple tutorial diagrams
In-Reply-To: <497CAAFF.4050402@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901252013.32883.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
	<497CAAFF.4050402@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1232908628.6036.3.camel@midnight>

On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 13:10 -0500, Jim wrote:
> Donn wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > I did some diagrams* for Steven a few days ago; I have just got a little web 
> > site going (forgive any bugs, it's all custom coded...) and have put them 
> > online at:
> > http://otherwise.relics.co.za/otherwise/wiki/Tuts/Linux/Basics/
> >
> > I hope they help someone out there.
> >
> > \d
> >
> > * -- I am sure there are mistakes and some bad design, please feel free to 
> > advise me.
> >
> >   
> GREAT SITE !!! this is a good site for Newbies to lean the Linux 
> filemanager and filesystem so they navigate around to find  their files.
> I've notice that all Newbies have trouble of placing and finding their 
> files, after they get over that hurdle then their on there way to really 
> grasping Linux.
> I will pass this on to all my Newbies that I draw to Linux.
> 
> Keep up the good work Donn

Agreed. Great job!

My only criticism is that the diagrams are a little too big for my
screen (1280 x 1024) and so I had to scroll around. It's not a big deal,
though.





From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com  Sun Jan 25 18:48:45 2009
From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:48:45 -0500
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com>

Art Alexion wrote:
> With more people testing pre-release versions of 9.04, I am wondering if 4.2 
> will ever make it to the 8.10 repositories.
> 
> 4.2 was earlier projected to hit Intrepid in December.
> 
4.2 is being released on the 27th.  I'm not sure when it will hit the 
repositories though.

http://www.kde.org/

Alan

-- 
"The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated 
concept.  If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in 
life and actually grok it."



From nigel at prayingforisrael.net  Sun Jan 25 18:55:16 2009
From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:55:16 +0200
Subject: Wallpaper in latest KDE4.2
In-Reply-To: <497BDCB8.7060102@dmiyu.org>
References: <497BDCB8.7060102@dmiyu.org>
Message-ID: <497CB594.2010207@prayingforisrael.net>

Steve Lamb wrote:
> Hello,
>     Anyone else having problems displaying a wallpaper in the latest update of
> KDE 4.2?  Curls is gone and replaced with Air.  However my background is a
> plain blue.  When I set it to Air, even manually, nothing displays but the
> plain color background.
> 
> 

I just noticed the same thing on my boy's box. I chose a different wallpaper and it showed up in 
the preview window. I then chose the original one that I had at first , and it too showed up in 
the preview window and then clicking 'Apply' made it appear on the desktop.

HTH

Nigel




From pewtas at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 19:06:29 2009
From: pewtas at gmail.com (Peter Williams)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:06:29 +1100
Subject: Some simple tutorial diagrams
In-Reply-To: <200901252031.23741.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
References: <200901252013.32883.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
	<497CAAFF.4050402@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901252031.23741.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bb1c4c350901251106q5eeb6568m6b872af3a0d0ba21@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Donn and All,

I want to all say thank you for your website. It is refreshing to see a new
way of explaining Linux OS -- it's very well designed and colourful
diagrams. Thank you!!!! ;-O)

I've only looked at a few of the tutorial screens and I'm finding that I'm
learning new things about the file-manager and file-system... Some of it I
already knew. #SMILE#

Keep up the good work, Donn.

I'm currently using Ubuntu with GNOME DE and also with some KDE programs.
They seem to happily co-exist together -- which is a very good thing ;-)

I also agree with what Steve Grace wrote:
quote:
Agreed. Great job!

My only criticism is that the diagrams are a little too big for my
screen (1280 x 1024) and so I had to scroll around. It's not a big deal,
though.

One other thought is that If I needed to print them out on my All-in-One
printer, then they would probably use up lots of printer ink. I'm already
running low on black ink with my printer - cos I've been printing out lots
and lots of instructions etc. And other things.

Thanks again for the excellent work, Donn

Yours Faithfully, Optimistically and With Much Love,
PEW aka PeteThePoet
from Hobart, Australia


Fond Regards,
Peter Eric (aka 'pew') WILLIAMS
from Hobart, Tasmania, Australia -- phone (03) 6236-9675

My free website is: http://pewtas.googlepages.com  (or)
http://tinyurl.com/yuyejs

(please visit my free website and let me know what you think about it.)
Marilyn Monroe  - "It's not true that I had nothing on. I had the radio on."


2009/1/26 Donn <donn.ingle at gmail.com>

> On Sunday, 25 January 2009 20:10:07 Jim wrote:
> > GREAT SITE !!! this is a good site for Newbies to lean the Linux
> > filemanager and filesystem so they navigate around to find  their files.
>
> Thanks! It's nice to get feedback.
>
> \d
>
> --
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> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 25 19:11:03 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:11:03 -0600
Subject: Changing the default icon in the System Tray
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901250529x23f09796p63033673109ab3df@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d9b8deb40901250436r420d15e6s4aa54bcd1c066bc1@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901250703.53165.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<b8d784880901250529x23f09796p63033673109ab3df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901251311.03907.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Sunday 25 January 2009 7:29:55 am Jonas Norlander wrote:
> 2009/1/25 Constantinos Maltezos <pandarsson at yahoo.com>:
> >> I would like to change the defaul icon for the KBluetooth daemon.
> >>
> >> Is it possible? If yes - how?
> >
> > Technically, it's possible.  But it involves getting the source, changing
> > the icon and compiling.  Practically, I'd say no.  The system tray icons
> > generally aren't made to be changed, sadly.
>
> Are you sure? Most of the times the icons and pictures for KDE are
> normal png files and is stored in /usr/share/icons/ or somewhere under
> /usr/share/kde4/. So I think it would be possible to backup the icon
> in question and replace it with the one you wont.

Good lord, you're right.  I apologize.  I mainly remember working with a non-
KDE app a while back that had its system tray icon built-in.



From michael at weblore.com  Sun Jan 25 19:22:46 2009
From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:22:46 -0600
Subject: Printing to CD/DVD
In-Reply-To: <gli7ra$o8v$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901241342.12464.michael@weblore.com>
	<gli7ra$o8v$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200901251322.47095.michael@weblore.com>

I had high hopes when I saw the titles, but there aren't any templates that 
would apply to printing to a CD. There are several that would be good to 
print to labels sheets for the CD *CASE*, but not for the CD. A CD template 
would have only one on a page and would indicate both the outer diameter of 
the CD itself and the hole in the center. 

On Sunday 25 January 2009 11:34:34 am Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Quite a bit of software allows me to print to this tray (OpenOffice, for
> > example).
>
> http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm
>
> See "Media Labels" at the bottom of the page.
>
> regards
> Eberhard





From w.hamra1987 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 19:30:02 2009
From: w.hamra1987 at gmail.com (Willy K. Hamra)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:30:02 +0200
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com>
Message-ID: <497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>

Alan Dacey wrote:
> Art Alexion wrote:
>> With more people testing pre-release versions of 9.04, I am wondering if 4.2 
>> will ever make it to the 8.10 repositories.
>>
>> 4.2 was earlier projected to hit Intrepid in December.
>>
> 4.2 is being released on the 27th.  I'm not sure when it will hit the 
> repositories though.
> 
> http://www.kde.org/
> 
> Alan
> 

i am using KDE 4.2 on Intrepid :P but using a PPA, as explained in 
kubuntu's news pages

-- 
Willy K. Hamra
Manager of Hamra Information Systems
Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net
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From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com  Sun Jan 25 21:59:43 2009
From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:59:43 -0500
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com>
	<497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>

Willy K. Hamra wrote:
> Alan Dacey wrote:
>> Art Alexion wrote:
>>> With more people testing pre-release versions of 9.04, I am wondering 
>>> if 4.2 will ever make it to the 8.10 repositories.
>>>
>>> 4.2 was earlier projected to hit Intrepid in December.
>>>
>> 4.2 is being released on the 27th.  I'm not sure when it will hit the 
>> repositories though.
>>
>> http://www.kde.org/
>>
>> Alan
>>
> 
> i am using KDE 4.2 on Intrepid :P but using a PPA, as explained in 
> kubuntu's news pages
> 

True, but the ppa versions are really beta.  I'm using them too in a separate 
partition and they rock!  This is what KDE 4.0 should have been -sweet, pretty, 
robust and It Just Works.

Alan

-- 
"The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated 
concept.  If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in 
life and actually grok it."



From rzighel at gmail.com  Sun Jan 25 23:14:47 2009
From: rzighel at gmail.com (Raul Zighelboim)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:14:47 -0600
Subject: Kubuntu 64 bit and 4GB ram
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13238.1232925161.6754.kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.13238.1232925161.6754.kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <497CF267.4080005@gmail.com>

kubuntu-bugs-owner at lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
> Your message was rejected
>
>   
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Kubuntu 64 bit and 4GB ram
> From:
> Raul Zighelboim <rzighel at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:12:28 -0600
> To:
> kubuntu-bugs at lists.ubuntu.com
>
> To:
> kubuntu-bugs at lists.ubuntu.com
>
>
>
> I run this Lenovo T61 laptop... with 2GB ram.  I tried to upgrade it 
> to 4GB ram (3 different DIMMS) and in each case the system would 
> freeze when trying to get the wireless noc up (IWL3945).
>
> Kubuntu Intrepid Ibex with latest experimental packages running 
> 2.6.27-11-server.
>
> Let me know what I can do to help identify the source of the problem.
>
> Thanks.
>




From claydoh at midmaine.com  Sun Jan 25 23:39:20 2009
From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:39:20 -0500
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901251839.21135.claydoh@midmaine.com>

On Sunday 25 January 2009 1:20:59 pm Art Alexion wrote:
> With more people testing pre-release versions of 9.04, I am wondering if
> 4.2 will ever make it to the 8.10 repositories.
>
> 4.2 was earlier projected to hit Intrepid in December.

As far as I know, 4.2 will make it to Intrepid, but via the ppa repositories, 
so it will not be an official part of the distro for that version
-- 
Clay Weber
http://kubuntuforums.net
http://flyballmaine.com
http://emacdogsports.com



From joelol75 at verizon.net  Sun Jan 25 23:55:06 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:55:06 -0500
Subject: Installing KDE4
In-Reply-To: <20081222151208.73c69c7d@graham-desktop>
References: <20081222151208.73c69c7d@graham-desktop>
Message-ID: <497CFBDA.4030905@verizon.net>

Graham Todd wrote:
> I've tried to install the latest version of KDE4 (at least, I presume
> the latest versions are on the mirrors).  The live disk runs OK, but
> when I try to install it from the live disk, the install freezes on a
> black screen.  I have an amd64 processor in my computer and I've tried
> both 64bit and 32bit versions with the same result.
>
> I have tried downloading different files on different days, tried
> burning them at different speeds, and tried both CDs and DVDs (in case
> that makes a difference) with no effect.
>
> I have only 256mb of ram on this machine, which may be the problem: I'm
> planning on fixing this when the Christmas holidays are over, but I
> can't find on the webpage exactly what level of ram I need - but Ubuntu
> runs on 256mb ram, so do I *need* more ram to run KDE?
>
> Any advice or help would be gratefully received...
>
>   
It should run fine with 256MB, although slower.... especially with many 
apps open at the same time may cause alot of "swapping".

It should run though with 256MB, but I'd get 512MB or more ASAP.

Joel.
 



From joelol75 at verizon.net  Sun Jan 25 23:59:56 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:59:56 -0500
Subject: New Releases of Kubuntu
In-Reply-To: <4978C34A.8000601@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4978C34A.8000601@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <497CFCFC.6060109@verizon.net>

Jim wrote:
> When is the next release of Ubuntu, past 8.10.
> What is the latest kernel version in 8.10, Is it using kernel-2.6.27 yet?
>
>   
Ubuntu is always released every 6 months, in April and October, so 9.04 
Jaunty is next and it runs the 2.6.28 kernel.  It's not released for 
'stable' yet (In April..) but is available to test and is currently at 
Alpha-3


http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/alpha-3/

Joel.




From joelol75 at verizon.net  Mon Jan 26 00:21:07 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:21:07 -0500
Subject: not able to configure internet connection in kubuntu
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901080153u35d76098gce4fe63d9086b56a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78c28b810901072052j1f9d7a5bsd7f3e1a733dbbab5@mail.gmail.com>
	<b8d784880901080153u35d76098gce4fe63d9086b56a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497D01F3.5050409@verizon.net>

You can save the connections if edited at root.

There's two ways to set up your DNS.

1. Set your nameservers up in your router and use the router as the 
nameserver (Best, as this will work across the entire LAN)

2. Set up just your computer to just use 'specified' nameserver.

These instructions don't use and GUI so they work for Ubuntu or 
Kubuntu.  I've found Kubuntu's network manager broken anyway (Especially 
with wireless...) So my advice is to use gnomes network manager with 
nm-applet or better yet, use Wicd.  This will conflict with network 
manager so it will be removed when wicd is installed.   Wicd is much 
cleaner and handles wireless autoconnects as well as wired connections.  
I love it and believe it should be the default for both Gnome and KDE, 
but some disagree with me....  All I know is KDE's front end is severly 
broken and buggy in intrepid and later.  I'm getting off topic but check 
out Wicd, you won't regret it!

Add this to your /etc/sources list to try Wicd:|

deb http://apt.wicd.net hardy extras|

Substitute hardy with intrepid or jaunty if you're running 8.10 or 9.04 
respectivly.

Then a simple sudo apt-get install wicd will install it.  You can setup 
your DNS nameservers in Wicd's front end...

If you prefer to set up the nameservers in your router, open up the 
router config page in a browser (ie. Firefox)  It's usually 192.168.1.1 
for most routers, or may be 192.168.0.1 for some models...  See the 
router config docs for more info.

To open it up, just type:

http://192.168.1.1

in the address bar.  In the Setup page (Usually the first tab on the 
config page, look for your DNS nameservers.  There will be two or 
possibly three places to type in your DNS ip addresses.  If you don't 
know your ISP's DNS ip addresses, you can use OpenDNS's.  They are free 
and work great and are very resistant to any DNS poisoning attacks. For 
more info on OpenDNS see http://www.opendns.com/homenetwork/solutions

So on these tabs add:

208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220

And save the config.  If there's three places, just leave the third blank.

Now, open a terminal and edit your /etc/resolv.conf file:

sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf

and in the file it should look like:

nameserver 192.168.1.1

Press CTRL-X and save it.

Remember, if your router uses a different address than 192.168.1.1 
change this in your resolv.conf to point at the router.

If you don't want to use the router as your LAN DNS server, add:

nameserver 208.67.222.222
nameserver 208.67.220.200

to your /etc/resolv.conf file.

Hope this helps.

Joel.






From joelol75 at verizon.net  Mon Jan 26 00:45:40 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:45:40 -0500
Subject: Apt broken
In-Reply-To: <200812132238.59276.michael@weblore.com>
References: <200812132238.59276.michael@weblore.com>
Message-ID: <497D07B4.8020000@verizon.net>

Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> After reinstalling Hardy, I restored my Hardy /etc to get my old 
> configurations back. It looked good ... but
>
>
>   
You shouldn't haphazardly copy over your old /etc files as many updates 
change many of the configurations to resolve bugs or security problems 
or new features.  Just copy over the files that you are sure you need 
(Like /etc/ssh/sshd_config, /etc/apache/* etc..).  Most of your GUI 
programs config changes are not saved in /etc, but in 
/home/username/.appconfig files.  Backing up your /home directories is a 
better bet.

Joel.



From joelol75 at verizon.net  Mon Jan 26 01:11:48 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:11:48 -0500
Subject: Can't Install Kubuntu 8.10 Properly - HELP!!
In-Reply-To: <4970A794.8070002@gmail.com>
References: <20090108153026.484f4bda@graham-desktop>	<49667380.4060903@gmail.com>	<20090112203110.7c78ce48@graham-desktop>	<20090114160728.2f605574@graham-desktop>	<496F6174.4060000@gmail.com>	<20090115234304.793fcc30@graham-desktop>
	<4970A794.8070002@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497D0DD4.7010105@verizon.net>

Also, in the console, check out the log file for your X session, it 
sounds like a video card issue.

less /var/log/Xorg.0.log

With the newer versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu, it really doesn't install 
much of a xorg.conf file which makes it harder to change some options 
and troubleshoot.  BTW the proper way to start/stop your X sessions 
after modifying your xorg.conf file (or any other  tweak) is:

sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop

and

sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start

you can also use:

sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart

You didn't mention what brand of video card you're using, but sometimes, 
just removing (Better to rename, for testing) your xorg.conf file 
magically fixes these problems.

So you can try:

sudo  mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old

and then restart X

sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart

to see if that works.  It does sound like a video card/compositing issue 
though.

Since there's really no xorg.conf file, a barebones structure can help.  
Please don't use this one, but it will give you an idea on the layout if 
needed.  This is for an NVidia card using the restricted drivers.  If 
similar to yours, you may need to change the BusID "PCI:0:5:0" to match 
where your card is installed.  This is automatically figured now, but to 
find where your card is, use the lspci command.  Mine shows up as:
00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
*00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51PV [GeForce 
6150] (rev a2)*
00:09.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 LPC Bridge (rev a2)
00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP51 SMBus (rev a2)
00:0a.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a2)
00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a2)
00:0d.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 IDE (rev a1)
00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller 
(rev a1)
00:0f.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller 
(rev a1)
00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio 
(rev a2)
00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a1)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Miscellaneous Control
01:05.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A 
IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
01:09.0 PCI bridge: Hint Corp HB6 Universal PCI-PCI bridge 
(non-transparent mode) (rev 11)
02:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 
(CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
02:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 
(CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)

Of course i'm just trying to give troubleshooting ideas.  The best info 
you can get is from your X log file!  Also adding this section into your 
xorg.conf file will shut off compositing:

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "false"
EndSection
 
I don't have it added into mine as it works fine w/o it for me... Just 
try some different settings.  Again here's a sample xorg.conf file which 
WILL NOT WORK for you, but may give you a 'skeleton' to work on one for 
yourself.  I wish they would give one by default as all this 
"autoconfiguring" doesn't always work as expected.  So try running 
without a xorg.conf file.  Then try moving it back and add the three 
lines above to it and see if it helps.  Of course check the 
/var/log/Xorg.0.log file every step of the way for info...  Also the 
command:

dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-*xorg

*
Will reconfigure the xserver and allow you to setup your 
video/keyboard/mouse and write a new xorg.conf file.










# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings:  version 1.0  (buildmeister at builder26)  Wed Sep 12 
14:29:53 PDT 2007

# xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "ServerLayout"

# Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
#    InputDevice     "stylus"    "SendCoreEvents"
#    InputDevice     "cursor"    "SendCoreEvents"
#    InputDevice     "eraser"    "SendCoreEvents"
    Identifier     "Default Layout"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Generic Keyboard"
    InputDevice    "Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "Module"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option         "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Generic Keyboard"
    Driver         "kbd"
    Option         "CoreKeyboard"
    Option         "XkbRules" "xorg"
    Option         "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option         "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Configured Mouse"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "CorePointer"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option         "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "stylus"
    Driver         "wacom"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
    Option         "Type" "stylus"
    Option         "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"        # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "eraser"
    Driver         "wacom"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
    Option         "Type" "eraser"
    Option         "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"        # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "cursor"
    Driver         "wacom"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
    Option         "Type" "cursor"
    Option         "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"        # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "LCM-22w3"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 82.0
    VertRefresh     56.0 - 76.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "WDE LCM-22w3"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 82.0
    VertRefresh     56.0 - 76.0
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "nVidia Corporation C51PV [GeForce 6150]"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    BusID          "PCI:0:5:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Videocard0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "GeForce 6150"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Default Screen"
    Device         "nVidia Corporation C51PV [GeForce 6150]"
    Monitor        "LCM-22w3"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Modes      "1680x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x800" 
"1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Videocard0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "TwinView" "0"
    Option         "metamodes" "1680x1050_60 +0+0; 1680x1050 +0+0; 
1280x1024 +0+0; 1280x960 +0+0; 1280x800 +0+0; 1152x864 +0+0; 1024x768 
+0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0"
EndSection




From joelol75 at verizon.net  Mon Jan 26 01:16:55 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:16:55 -0500
Subject: Can't Install Kubuntu 8.10 Properly - HELP!!
In-Reply-To: <497D0DD4.7010105@verizon.net>
References: <20090108153026.484f4bda@graham-desktop>	<49667380.4060903@gmail.com>	<20090112203110.7c78ce48@graham-desktop>	<20090114160728.2f605574@graham-desktop>	<496F6174.4060000@gmail.com>	<20090115234304.793fcc30@graham-desktop>	<4970A794.8070002@gmail.com>
	<497D0DD4.7010105@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <497D0F07.5080108@verizon.net>

Joel Oliver wrote:
> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-*xorg
>
>
>   
There was some "*" added into this message that don't belong there  The 
command is



dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Joel.





From joelol75 at verizon.net  Mon Jan 26 01:19:50 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:19:50 -0500
Subject: Apt broken
In-Reply-To: <200812132238.59276.michael@weblore.com>
References: <200812132238.59276.michael@weblore.com>
Message-ID: <497D0FB6.7040301@verizon.net>

Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> Preconfiguring packages ...
> Setting up base-files (4.0.1ubuntu5.8.04.3) ...
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst: 156: awk: not found
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst: 156: awk: not found
> dpkg: error processing base-files (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  base-files
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>
>
>   

Also try:

sudo dpkg --configure -a

to try to resolve any install problems (unconfigured packages) and:

sudo apt-get install -f

to resolve any missing dependencies.

Joel.
 



From joelol75 at verizon.net  Mon Jan 26 01:25:54 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:25:54 -0500
Subject: Enabled Wifi when there is no wire
In-Reply-To: <ac06429e0901250033t55887846i2684eb44d1f8234f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ac06429e0901220157o144d805bl3982fa98a4ee25e4@mail.gmail.com>	<200901220910.57647.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>	<ac06429e0901221049g278d750bq17c986d2612f0c5b@mail.gmail.com>	<enbp46-olp.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<ac06429e0901250033t55887846i2684eb44d1f8234f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497D1122.20000@verizon.net>

Arnaud bourree wrote:
> Yes, NetworkManager icon is wired icon when wire is plugged but it 
> still display list of available wireless networks.
> What I expect is to automatically switch off wifi when wired and 
> switch on when unplugged
>
> Arnaud.
You will have to use the hotkeys to manually switch off the wifi (Adds 
battery life as well)

Some like the toshibas have an actual switch whereas the Dells have A 
Function key + F2 to turn it off.  The only other thing I could think of 
is some tricky scripts to load/unload the wifi modules on demand, but 
this can be pretty complicated and specific to the model and card type 
of the notebook.


Joel.




From joelol75 at verizon.net  Mon Jan 26 01:28:59 2009
From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:28:59 -0500
Subject: Epson and HP Scanner
In-Reply-To: <200901241403.25329.phantom21@mindspring.com>
References: <200901161313.39838.phantom21@mindspring.com>	<1232781115.9003.163.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
	<200901241403.25329.phantom21@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <497D11DB.4040902@verizon.net>

I like my old HP Scanjet 5200C.  I had it forever and it works great in 
Ubuntu/Kubuntu.  I use either kooka or gscan2pdf depending on what I'm 
doing.

I get a laugh that this scanner wont work in Vista as "It's too old and 
will not be supported"

Joel.




From derek at pointerstop.ca  Mon Jan 26 02:16:25 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:16:25 -0400
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>
	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>
	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>
	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net> <497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>
	<497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net> <nfbs46-vck.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<497C8F88.6040905@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <p0jv46-k2a.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Jim wrote:

>> There's no need to "go back".  Start with whatever Ubuntu you can get,
>> update the repositories to the current version, upgrade, and install
>> kubuntu-desktop.  Done.  Don't boot to the newest kernel if it doesn't
>> support the EEE.
>>   
> I just gave up  and and installed eeeUbuntu and removed Gnome and
> installed KDE, RaLink Wireless works fine in gnome but not KDE,

In which case I'd just install nm-applet (the gnome front-end for Network 
manager) or wicd or anything else that works, but...

> kdenetwork won't let me enter a WEP key, If I check "Use Wireless
> Security" and click on "Expert setting" button it won't go any further
> to allow me to enter a WEP key.

If you're only going to use WEP, then why even bother?  WEP is approximately 
equivalent to no security at all...





From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Mon Jan 26 06:19:58 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:19:58 -0600
Subject: Grousing - feel free to ignore
Message-ID: <497D560E.3080009@swbell.net>

Well........it looks like I'm using 8.10/4.x beginning today. I've had 
ongoing issues with the video settings in 8.04/3.x for some time and it 
blew up again. I already had 8.10/4.x installed and all my major files 
were copied over to it so.....................

I can't say I'm particularly happy with the situation but.................

Asi es la vida.

-- 
- - Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.



From arnaud.bourree at gmail.com  Mon Jan 26 08:11:25 2009
From: arnaud.bourree at gmail.com (Arnaud bourree)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:11:25 +0100
Subject: Enabled Wifi when there is no wire
In-Reply-To: <497D1122.20000@verizon.net>
References: <ac06429e0901220157o144d805bl3982fa98a4ee25e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901220910.57647.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<ac06429e0901221049g278d750bq17c986d2612f0c5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<enbp46-olp.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<ac06429e0901250033t55887846i2684eb44d1f8234f@mail.gmail.com>
	<497D1122.20000@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <ac06429e0901260011g26709327u535bae53f82deb1b@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/26 Joel Oliver <joelol75 at verizon.net>

> You will have to use the hotkeys to manually switch off the wifi (Adds
> battery life as well)

Yes, hotkey is definitively a good think when you known that you cannot
reach any wifi spot and add battery life.

>
> Some like the toshibas have an actual switch whereas the Dells have A
> Function key + F2 to turn it off.  The only other thing I could think of
> is some tricky scripts to load/unload the wifi modules on demand, but
> this can be pretty complicated and specific to the model and card type
> of the notebook.

I don't want to load/unload module, only as NetworkManager does: Disable
Wireless
I should used NetworkManager interface in DBus

>
> Joel.
>

I start to used  NetworkManager notification event on link up and link down:
it launch two shells on.
Both shells done the following:
  - display shell name: i.e. link up or link down
  - display parameters
  - perform ifconfig eth0 (my wired connection)
But the is poor:
  - there is no parameter. I hope something like: eth0 up
  - ifconfig is performe before link is fully up or down

I think that I will take a look on DBus event like NetworkManager

Arnaud
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From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com  Mon Jan 26 09:07:17 2009
From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:07:17 +0000
Subject: not able to configure internet connection in kubuntu
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13502.1232932312.6754.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.13502.1232932312.6754.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <497D7D45.1060101@btinternet.com>

To open it up, just type:

http://192.168.1.1

If its BTHub router you've got its IP will be

http://192.168.1.254
and the home domain devices you set up would start
at 192.168.1.64.
 Any 'box' on your home network that asks for a netmask

255.255.255.0 will cope


brian




From dave at thefletchers.net  Mon Jan 26 09:24:06 2009
From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:24:06 +0000
Subject: Apt broken
In-Reply-To: <497D07B4.8020000@verizon.net>
References: <200812132238.59276.michael@weblore.com>
	<497D07B4.8020000@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200901260924.06920.dave@thefletchers.net>

On Monday 26 January 2009 00:45:40 Joel Oliver wrote:
> Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> > After reinstalling Hardy, I restored my Hardy /etc to get my old
> > configurations back. It looked good ... but
>
> You shouldn't haphazardly copy over your old /etc files as many updates
> change many of the configurations to resolve bugs or security problems
> or new features.  Just copy over the files that you are sure you need
> (Like /etc/ssh/sshd_config, /etc/apache/* etc..).  Most of your GUI
> programs config changes are not saved in /etc, but in
> /home/username/.appconfig files.  Backing up your /home directories is a
> better bet.
>
> Joel.

That sounds sensible.

What I do is have an rsync instruction in my backup script which maintains a 
copy of /etc/ in a directory in my home directory, then there is a tar 
instruction which backs up /home/. I also try to keep a list of which files I 
modified to get stuff working.

Then, next time I do a reinstall or freshly install a new version, I've got 
all my old /etc/ files to refer to, so I can see what I did before.

Dave



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Mon Jan 26 10:04:50 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:04:50 +0100
Subject: Printing to CD/DVD
In-Reply-To: <200901251322.47095.michael@weblore.com>
References: <200901241342.12464.michael@weblore.com>	<gli7ra$o8v$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<200901251322.47095.michael@weblore.com>
Message-ID: <glk1s1$5ar$1@ger.gmane.org>

Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> I had high hopes when I saw the titles, but there aren't any templates that 
> would apply to printing to a CD. There are several that would be good to 
> print to labels sheets for the CD *CASE*, but not for the CD. A CD template 
> would have only one on a page and would indicate both the outer diameter of 
> the CD itself and the hole in the center. 
> 
sorry, I did not check.
Last time I remeber that there were templates for labels that were meant 
to be applied to the CD surface.

Well for good reasons, those labels never really made it und we are now 
suffering.

Maybe this helps a little bit:
http://hplipopensource.com/node/196

Furthermore, you could possibly use these as a size template for OOo-Draw:

http://www.prooo-box.org/cover.html

and then modify them according to your needs.

Kind regards
Eberhard




From alain.muls at telenet.be  Mon Jan 26 11:05:30 2009
From: alain.muls at telenet.be (Alain Muls)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:05:30 +0100
Subject: conky and KDEv4.2RC
Message-ID: <200901261205.30522.alain.muls@telenet.be>

Hi

I like conky and I would like to put it as a plasma widget on the desktop, so 
that if I press Ctrl-F12 (show dashboard), that I could check on its output.

Tx/Alain




From art.alexion at gmail.com  Mon Jan 26 11:15:39 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:15:39 -0500
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com>	<497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>
	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>
Message-ID: <497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>

On 01/25/2009 Alan Dacey wrote:
>> > i am using KDE 4.2 on Intrepid :P but using a PPA, as explained in 
>> > kubuntu's news pages
>> > 
> 
> True, but the ppa versions are really beta.  I'm using them too in a separate 
> partition and they rock!  This is what KDE 4.0 should have been -sweet, pretty, 
> robust and It Just Works.

Weren't 4.0-4.1 betas?

Oh, that's right, they were alphas...



From d.mcglone at att.net  Mon Jan 26 13:04:11 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:04:11 -0500
Subject: Can't get WEP to accept KEY
In-Reply-To: <497C8DC0.50708@sbcglobal.net>
References: <497C8DC0.50708@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901260804.11983.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Sunday 25 January 2009 11:05:20 am Jim wrote:
> Installed  eeeUbuntu-8.10  on my eeePC 1000 and got Ralink wireless
> working and connects to a unsecure AP, but I need to connect to a Secure
> AP.
>
> I installed KDE and remove Gnome and had WEP working in Gnome, but I
> must have left out a package at the install of KDE.
>
> In kdenetwork I can check box for WEP but it does not allow me to enter
> a WEP key, after I click on "Expert settings" button.
>
> What did I not install with KDE to get WEP working ?

You can manually add your WEP key in /etc/network/interfaces.

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com  Mon Jan 26 13:41:23 2009
From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:41:23 +0300
Subject: Keyboard shortcut for applications menu
Message-ID: <497DBD83.5040508@gmail.com>

Hello,

i'm using kubuntu 8.04 (with KDE3.5.10).
impressed by kickoff in kde4(on another machine), I installed tastymenu 
to kde3.
After some time i decided to move back to standard menu.
I removed tastymenu applet and  added "K menu" to my kicker, but for 
some reason it didn't open when i press ALT+F1 shortcut.

I tried to change shortcut in "system settings" to something else - but 
that didn't work either :(


any ideas?
-- 
thank you,
-Alexander


010
001
111



From basroufs at gmail.com  Mon Jan 26 13:44:32 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:44:32 +0100
Subject: How to access the memory card of a Kodak C330 digital camera via 
	Kubuntu 8.10?
Message-ID: <c638edc20901260544o2651d096ldcaadec13cbac531@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Everybody

Today, I fruitlessly tried to access a digital camera, with a view to
downloading from there the photo files to the PC. The camera is a
'Kodak Easyshare C330'. I use a special interface cable meant to make
a connection between a USB port and the camera. However, nothing
happened - the device was not being recognised.
Than,  I acted as follows: K > system settings > advanced > digital
camera > option 'Add'. I came at a list of cameras at which I found
"Kodak C330".  Now, 'Kodak 330' is being mentioned within the 'digital
camera' menu. Some help menu advises me to look for a folder with the
address "camera:/'"; that address allegedly gives access to the photo
files. But I did not find it: not via Konqueror, also not via Dolphin.
On the other hand: via a CONTROL-F search I did find this file:
.kde/share.config/kio_camerarc. That file contains the following
script:
[Kodak C330]
Model=Kodak C330
Path=

However it may be, I still do not manage to access the camara and to
download the photo's, also not after a few times of restarting.

I checked the camera and device at the Windows XP partition of this
desktop PC. There, I did manage to access the photo's, to download
them at the disk and to empty the memory card in the camera. However,
I still would prefer to carry out such action via Linux/ Kubuntu 8.10.
Can anyone give me a clue on how to do so?

Respectfully yours,

Bas.




-- 
===============
Viaconsensus
Bas G. Roufs M.A.
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
===============



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Mon Jan 26 14:01:51 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:01:51 +0100
Subject: How to access the memory card of a Kodak C330 digital camera
	via    Kubuntu 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901260544o2651d096ldcaadec13cbac531@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901260544o2651d096ldcaadec13cbac531@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <glkfog$jk5$1@ger.gmane.org>

Bas Roufs wrote:

> 
> I checked the camera and device at the Windows XP partition of this
> desktop PC. There, I did manage to access the photo's, to download
> them at the disk and to empty the memory card in the camera. However,
> I still would prefer to carry out such action via Linux/ Kubuntu 8.10.
> Can anyone give me a clue on how to do so?
> 
> Respectfully yours,
> 
> Bas.
> 
> 
> 
> 
Hi Bas,

two possible solutions:
1.
-Start digicam (if you do not have it installed, install it before 
starting it. ;-) )
-Klick on "import" and then find your way through adding your camera 
model and finally try to import your fotos.

2. Buy a usb cardreader, be sure that the type of flashcard that your 
camera uses is supported, connect it via usb, insert your camera's flash 
card and then access your fotos like you do it with a harddisk.

Very simple and it saves energy that otherwise must come from your 
camera's batteries.

Kind regards




From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Mon Jan 26 14:11:56 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:11:56 -0500
Subject: How to access the memory card of a Kodak C330 digital camera via
	Kubuntu 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901260544o2651d096ldcaadec13cbac531@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901260544o2651d096ldcaadec13cbac531@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901260911.56419.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Monday 26 January 2009, Bas Roufs wrote:
> I checked the camera and device at the Windows XP partition of this
> desktop PC. There, I did manage to access the photo's, to download
> them at the disk and to empty the memory card in the camera. However,
> I still would prefer to carry out such action via Linux/ Kubuntu 8.10.
> Can anyone give me a clue on how to do so?

You would do best to try  Digikam.    It will allow you to specify a camera 
(if supported) or it will to an 'auto-detect' of the camera.

It is a very handy program....  and should do what you want.



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 26 15:10:01 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:10:01 -0500
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <p0jv46-k2a.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net>
	<497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>	<497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<nfbs46-vck.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<497C8F88.6040905@sbcglobal.net>
	<p0jv46-k2a.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <497DD249.8000408@sbcglobal.net>

Derek Broughton wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>
>   
>>> There's no need to "go back".  Start with whatever Ubuntu you can get,
>>> update the repositories to the current version, upgrade, and install
>>> kubuntu-desktop.  Done.  Don't boot to the newest kernel if it doesn't
>>> support the EEE.
>>>   
>>>       
>> I just gave up  and and installed eeeUbuntu and removed Gnome and
>> installed KDE, RaLink Wireless works fine in gnome but not KDE,
>>     
>
> In which case I'd just install nm-applet (the gnome front-end for Network 
> manager) or wicd or anything else that works, but...
>
>   
>> kdenetwork won't let me enter a WEP key, If I check "Use Wireless
>> Security" and click on "Expert setting" button it won't go any further
>> to allow me to enter a WEP key.
>>     
>
> If you're only going to use WEP, then why even bother?  WEP is approximately 
> equivalent to no security at all...
>
>
>
>   
So is wap and the other ones.



From jonorland at gmail.com  Mon Jan 26 15:15:43 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:15:43 +0100
Subject: How to access the memory card of a Kodak C330 digital camera via 
	Kubuntu 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <200901260911.56419.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <c638edc20901260544o2651d096ldcaadec13cbac531@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901260911.56419.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901260715v1473fa1bxc47304bc13d8e885@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/26 Bruce Marshall <bmarsh at bmarsh.com>:
> On Monday 26 January 2009, Bas Roufs wrote:
>> I checked the camera and device at the Windows XP partition of this
>> desktop PC. There, I did manage to access the photo's, to download
>> them at the disk and to empty the memory card in the camera. However,
>> I still would prefer to carry out such action via Linux/ Kubuntu 8.10.
>> Can anyone give me a clue on how to do so?
>
> You would do best to try  Digikam.    It will allow you to specify a camera
> (if supported) or it will to an 'auto-detect' of the camera.

While i in Kubuntu Hardy and KDE3 i could download my photos to
digikam from within digikam but in Intrepid and KDE4 i cant and i now
use a card reader to import my photos to digikam. I don't know if it a
bug or if it's just me. Looking at
http://www.gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php i see that Kodac
C330 is supported by the libgphoto library.

/ Jonas



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 26 15:33:52 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:33:52 -0500
Subject: Can't get WEP to accept KEY
In-Reply-To: <200901260804.11983.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <497C8DC0.50708@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901260804.11983.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <497DD7E0.2080003@sbcglobal.net>

David McGlone wrote:
> On Sunday 25 January 2009 11:05:20 am Jim wrote:
>   
>> Installed  eeeUbuntu-8.10  on my eeePC 1000 and got Ralink wireless
>> working and connects to a unsecure AP, but I need to connect to a Secure
>> AP.
>>
>> I installed KDE and remove Gnome and had WEP working in Gnome, but I
>> must have left out a package at the install of KDE.
>>
>> In kdenetwork I can check box for WEP but it does not allow me to enter
>> a WEP key, after I click on "Expert settings" button.
>>
>> What did I not install with KDE to get WEP working ?
>>     
>
> You can manually add your WEP key in /etc/network/interfaces.
>
>   
The only thing in /etc/network/interfaces

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

What would I put in file to indicate WEP key ?



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Mon Jan 26 15:33:20 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:33:20 -0600
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <497DD249.8000408@sbcglobal.net>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net>	<497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>	<497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net>	<nfbs46-vck.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<497C8F88.6040905@sbcglobal.net>	<p0jv46-k2a.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<497DD249.8000408@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <497DD7C0.7000001@swbell.net>

Jim wrote:
> Derek Broughton wrote:
>   
>> Jim wrote:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>>> There's no need to "go back".  Start with whatever Ubuntu you can get,
>>>> update the repositories to the current version, upgrade, and install
>>>> kubuntu-desktop.  Done.  Don't boot to the newest kernel if it doesn't
>>>> support the EEE.
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> I just gave up  and and installed eeeUbuntu and removed Gnome and
>>> installed KDE, RaLink Wireless works fine in gnome but not KDE,
>>>     
>>>       
>> In which case I'd just install nm-applet (the gnome front-end for Network 
>> manager) or wicd or anything else that works, but...
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> kdenetwork won't let me enter a WEP key, If I check "Use Wireless
>>> Security" and click on "Expert setting" button it won't go any further
>>> to allow me to enter a WEP key.
>>>     
>>>       
>> If you're only going to use WEP, then why even bother?  WEP is approximately 
>> equivalent to no security at all...
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
> So is wap and the other ones.
>
>   

Locks, passwords, etc. just keep honest people honest. If you want total 
computer security just turn it off, unplug it, and mash it with a _BIG_ 
hammer. Effective but not very useful. Otherwise, just get over it. 
Remember, just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get 
you.

I left Gnome on my Eeebuntu 2.0. Not because I'm particularly fond of it 
but because it worked-right-out-of-the-box. Eeebuntu is specially 
optimized for the Eee. I thought about _adding_ KDE but haven't decided 
yet. I only have 12gig total "drive" space so ....

My Gateway, Kubuntu 8.04/3.5.x /64, has no problem with connecting to 
"secure" networks. When I tell it to connect to a "secure" network 
KnetworkManage pops open a little box asking for the WEP key. Enter it 
and connected. I would expect it should act the same way on the Eee. 
Maybe some little whatsit got left out during the KDE install.





From basroufs at gmail.com  Mon Jan 26 15:42:03 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:42:03 +0100
Subject: SOLVED: How to access the memory card of a Kodak C330 digital camera 
	via Kubuntu 8.10?
Message-ID: <c638edc20901260742h5a06c02bj286a12f4d2bb0611@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Eberhard, Bruce, Jonas and Everybody

Thanks for your quick replies. I already solved the problem.

>> You would do best to try  Digikam.    It will allow you to specify a camera
>> (if supported) or it will to an 'auto-detect' of the camera.

In the mean time, I have done so. It worked exactly as you wrote here above.

With respect to your problem, Jonas:
> While i in Kubuntu Hardy and KDE3 i could download my photos to
> digikam from within digikam but in Intrepid and KDE4 i cant and i now
> use a card reader to import my photos to digikam. I don't know if it a
> bug or if it's just me.
Though I also use Kubuntu Intrepid with KDE 4, the autodetect and
import/ export function of Digikam works out of the box. I only use
the camera, a USB port and a special interface in between.
I installed Digikam as follows:
* K Menu> Applications > Add/ Remove software (Adept installer).
* Within Adept, I gave in 'Digikam' in the search function.
* 2 closely interrelated packages showed up: Digikam and ShowFoto.
* I installed BOTH of them.

In your situation, I would advise you to act as follows. First
UNINSTALL your existing Digikam package(s).
Than act in the way I explained above.
Respectfully yours,

Bas.








-- 
===============
Viaconsensus
Bas G. Roufs M.A.
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
===============



From aeclist at candt.waitrose.com  Mon Jan 26 16:15:01 2009
From: aeclist at candt.waitrose.com (alan c)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:15:01 +0000
Subject: How to access the memory card of a Kodak C330 digital camera
	via 	Kubuntu 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901260544o2651d096ldcaadec13cbac531@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901260544o2651d096ldcaadec13cbac531@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497DE185.8010408@candt.waitrose.com>

Bas Roufs wrote:
> Dear Everybody
> 
> Today, I fruitlessly tried to access a digital camera, with a view to
> downloading from there the photo files to the PC. The camera is a
> 'Kodak Easyshare C330'. I use a special interface cable meant to make
> a connection between a USB port and the camera. However, nothing
> happened - the device was not being recognised.
> Than,  I acted as follows: K > system settings > advanced > digital
> camera > option 'Add'. I came at a list of cameras at which I found
> "Kodak C330".  Now, 'Kodak 330' is being mentioned within the 'digital
> camera' menu. Some help menu advises me to look for a folder with the
> address "camera:/'"; that address allegedly gives access to the photo
> files. But I did not find it: not via Konqueror, also not via Dolphin.
> On the other hand: via a CONTROL-F search I did find this file:
> .kde/share.config/kio_camerarc. That file contains the following
> script:
> [Kodak C330]
> Model=Kodak C330
> Path=
> 
> However it may be, I still do not manage to access the camara and to
> download the photo's, also not after a few times of restarting.
> 
> I checked the camera and device at the Windows XP partition of this
> desktop PC. There, I did manage to access the photo's, to download
> them at the disk and to empty the memory card in the camera. However,
> I still would prefer to carry out such action via Linux/ Kubuntu 8.10.
> Can anyone give me a clue on how to do so?

Find out how to physically remove the memory card in your camera: from 
what I think I see on the web pictures, you slide the flap underneath, 
and you will see the batteries and also I believe, the edge of the 
memory card. It is an SD card, and it looks like it is quite an 
ordinary type, used for computers also. Turn the camera off, slide the 
flap, press onto the edge of the SD card and it should popup. Keeping 
your fingers away from the gold contacts, withdraw the card and insert 
it into a SD card reader which can plug into your USB on the computer. 
You will be able to see folders and files on the CD card, using the 
ordinary computer file manager, and or you can use digikam too.

Copy picture files from the SD card and paste onto your computer. One 
thing - it is best to let your camera itself delete pictures from the 
card, so try to avoid doing that on your computer.

The camera, as new, probably comes with about 16MB of memory on the SD 
card. It is very cheap to buy larger cards and fit them yourself. Some 
cameras do not accept large memory sizes - 1GB may be the maximum size 
you can use.

hth
-- 
alan cocks
Ubuntu user #10391
Linux user #360648



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Mon Jan 26 16:12:34 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:12:34 -0400
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>
	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>
	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>
	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net> <497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>
	<497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net> <nfbs46-vck.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<497C8F88.6040905@sbcglobal.net> <p0jv46-k2a.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<497DD249.8000408@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <i04156-v6m.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Jim wrote:

>> If you're only going to use WEP, then why even bother?  WEP is
>>   
> So is wap and the other ones.

That's WPA, and it's quite significantly more secure than WEP.  "The other 
ones" (generally WPA-based) can be very secure.






From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 26 17:51:42 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:51:42 -0500
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <497DD7C0.7000001@swbell.net>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net>	<497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>	<497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net>	<nfbs46-vck.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<497C8F88.6040905@sbcglobal.net>	<p0jv46-k2a.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<497DD249.8000408@sbcglobal.net>
	<497DD7C0.7000001@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <497DF82E.9020807@sbcglobal.net>

Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>   
>> Derek Broughton wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Jim wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> There's no need to "go back".  Start with whatever Ubuntu you can get,
>>>>> update the repositories to the current version, upgrade, and install
>>>>> kubuntu-desktop.  Done.  Don't boot to the newest kernel if it doesn't
>>>>> support the EEE.
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> I just gave up  and and installed eeeUbuntu and removed Gnome and
>>>> installed KDE, RaLink Wireless works fine in gnome but not KDE,
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> In which case I'd just install nm-applet (the gnome front-end for Network 
>>> manager) or wicd or anything else that works, but...
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> kdenetwork won't let me enter a WEP key, If I check "Use Wireless
>>>> Security" and click on "Expert setting" button it won't go any further
>>>> to allow me to enter a WEP key.
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> If you're only going to use WEP, then why even bother?  WEP is approximately 
>>> equivalent to no security at all...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> So is wap and the other ones.
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> Locks, passwords, etc. just keep honest people honest. If you want total 
> computer security just turn it off, unplug it, and mash it with a _BIG_ 
> hammer. Effective but not very useful. Otherwise, just get over it. 
> Remember, just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get 
> you.
>
> I left Gnome on my Eeebuntu 2.0. Not because I'm particularly fond of it 
> but because it worked-right-out-of-the-box. Eeebuntu is specially 
> optimized for the Eee. I thought about _adding_ KDE but haven't decided 
> yet. I only have 12gig total "drive" space so ....
>
> My Gateway, Kubuntu 8.04/3.5.x /64, has no problem with connecting to 
> "secure" networks. When I tell it to connect to a "secure" network 
> KnetworkManage pops open a little box asking for the WEP key. Enter it 
> and connected. I would expect it should act the same way on the Eee. 
> Maybe some little whatsit got left out during the KDE install.
>
>
>
>   

-KnetworkManage pops open a little box asking for the WEP key. Enter it 
-and connected. I would expect it should act the same way on the Eee. 
-Maybe some little whatsit got left out during the KDE install.



Thats the problem with mine, knetworkManager won't pop up and ask me for WEP key.
When I installed KDE something didn't load properly.
Or something I removed when I removed Gnome from the install.





From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 26 17:54:17 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:54:17 -0500
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <i04156-v6m.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net>
	<497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>	<497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<nfbs46-vck.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<497C8F88.6040905@sbcglobal.net>
	<p0jv46-k2a.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<497DD249.8000408@sbcglobal.net>
	<i04156-v6m.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <497DF8C9.9030106@sbcglobal.net>

Derek Broughton wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>
>   
>>> If you're only going to use WEP, then why even bother?  WEP is
>>>   
>>>       
>> So is wap and the other ones.
>>     
>
> That's WPA, and it's quite significantly more secure than WEP.  "The other 
> ones" (generally WPA-based) can be very secure.
>
>
>
>
>   
There is a lot of articles out there that totally disagree with you. On WPA.



From kassube at gmx.net  Mon Jan 26 17:57:58 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:57:58 +0100
Subject: Can't get WEP to accept KEY
In-Reply-To: <497DD7E0.2080003@sbcglobal.net>
References: <497C8DC0.50708@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901260804.11983.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<497DD7E0.2080003@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901261857.58907.kassube@gmx.net>

Jim wrote:
> The only thing in /etc/network/interfaces
>
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> What would I put in file to indicate WEP key ?

Does this help? <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045>
First hit at google for "/etc/network/interfaces wep" (without quotes).


Nils



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Mon Jan 26 18:47:23 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:47:23 -0400
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>
	<49b3a7400901240907i4283e87cveb47c758e0af423f@mail.gmail.com>
	<qf0s46-ese.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>
	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net> <497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>
	<497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net> <nfbs46-vck.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<497C8F88.6040905@sbcglobal.net> <p0jv46-k2a.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<497DD249.8000408@sbcglobal.net> <i04156-v6m.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<497DF8C9.9030106@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <r2d156-2qr.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Jim wrote:

> Derek Broughton wrote:
>> Jim wrote:
>>   
>>>> If you're only going to use WEP, then why even bother?  WEP is
>>>>   
>>> So is wap and the other ones.
>>>     
>>
>> That's WPA, and it's quite significantly more secure than WEP.  "The
>> other ones" (generally WPA-based) can be very secure.
>>
> There is a lot of articles out there that totally disagree with you. On
> WPA.

Cite even one.  There are many articles out there that say it can be 
cracked.  No doubt about it, but it is a couple of orders of magnitude 
tougher than WEP (which should take a beginner about 15 minutes).  If you 
change your keys _frequently_ (more frequently than practically anybody 
would, manually) WPA should be quite secure.  That's why you can make a 
secure network based on WPA.






From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 26 19:29:50 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:29:50 -0500
Subject: Can't get WEP to accept KEY
In-Reply-To: <200901261857.58907.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <497C8DC0.50708@sbcglobal.net>	<200901260804.11983.d.mcglone@att.net>	<497DD7E0.2080003@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901261857.58907.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <497E0F2E.7080209@sbcglobal.net>

Nils Kassube wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>   
>> The only thing in /etc/network/interfaces
>>
>> auto lo
>> iface lo inet loopback
>>
>> What would I put in file to indicate WEP key ?
>>     
>
> Does this help? <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045>
> First hit at google for "/etc/network/interfaces wep" (without quotes).
>
>
> Nils
>
>   
I have the same setup and it's not making any difference, 
knetworkManager is even seeing /etc/network/interfaces.




From kassube at gmx.net  Mon Jan 26 20:20:23 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:20:23 +0100
Subject: Can't get WEP to accept KEY
In-Reply-To: <497E0F2E.7080209@sbcglobal.net>
References: <497C8DC0.50708@sbcglobal.net> <200901261857.58907.kassube@gmx.net>
	<497E0F2E.7080209@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901262120.23877.kassube@gmx.net>

Jim wrote:
> Nils Kassube wrote:
> > Jim wrote:
> >> The only thing in /etc/network/interfaces
> >>
> >> auto lo
> >> iface lo inet loopback
> >>
> >> What would I put in file to indicate WEP key ?
> >
> > Does this help? <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045>
> > First hit at google for "/etc/network/interfaces wep" (without
> > quotes).
>
> I have the same setup and it's not making any difference,
> knetworkManager is even seeing /etc/network/interfaces.

OK, then there are still two other options I can think of.

a) Uninstall knetworkmanager and install nm-applet (that is the equivalent 
for Gnome).

b) Install wicd instead of networkmanager.

I know nm-applet works with Intrepid while I had problems with 
knetworkmanager. However I can't tell you if it works with WEP because I 
only use WPA2 here. And I don't have Intrepid installed so I can't test 
it.


Nils



From d.mcglone at att.net  Mon Jan 26 21:39:21 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:39:21 -0500
Subject: Can't get WEP to accept KEY
In-Reply-To: <497E0F2E.7080209@sbcglobal.net>
References: <497C8DC0.50708@sbcglobal.net> <200901261857.58907.kassube@gmx.net>
	<497E0F2E.7080209@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901261639.21690.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Monday 26 January 2009 2:29:50 pm Jim wrote:

> I have the same setup and it's not making any difference,
> knetworkManager is even seeing /etc/network/interfaces.
<quote>
The only thing in /etc/network/interfaces

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

What would I put in file to indicate WEP key ?
</quote>

This is what you said you had in your file first. Now what does your file look 
like now?

after you add everything to the file, you need to quit knetworkmanager (it is 
BROKEN) and issue the command ifup eth0 or whatever you named the iface.

here is an example of my interfaces file:

# The primary network interface
#auto eth0
#iface eth0 inet static
#       address ###.###.#.#
#       netmask 255.255.255.0
#       network ###.###.#.#
#       broadcast ###.###.#.###
#       gateway ###.###.#.#
#       # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if 
installed
#       dns-nameservers ###.###.#.#
#       dns-search dmcghome

iface wlan0 inet static
address ###.###.#.#
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway ###.###.#.#
wireless-essid dmcghome

replace the "#"s with your info that fits your computer.

I commented out all the eth0 lines because I am using wireless.

Also, I am not using WEP so "wireless-key" is missing, but if you want to use 
WEP then just add the line: wireless-key ########## under the wireless-essid 
line then issue the command ifup wlan0 or whatever you name your iface or 
reboot your computer and it will connect automatically.

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From art.alexion at gmail.com  Mon Jan 26 21:50:52 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:50:52 -0500
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <497DD7C0.7000001@swbell.net>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net> <497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>
	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net> <497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>
	<497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net> <nfbs46-vck.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<497C8F88.6040905@sbcglobal.net> <p0jv46-k2a.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<497DD249.8000408@sbcglobal.net> <497DD7C0.7000001@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00901261350j421e45afs3aedb14b22382b72@mail.gmail.com>

I have to (fully) agree with Billie. I have configure about 6 eee
1000s with Ubuntu and with a few tweaks to fstab and enabling the
camera in the BIOS, everything works.

I do not install KDE for the same reason.



On 1/26/09, Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh at swbell.net> wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>> Derek Broughton wrote:
>>
>>> Jim wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> There's no need to "go back".  Start with whatever Ubuntu you can get,
>>>>> update the repositories to the current version, upgrade, and install
>>>>> kubuntu-desktop.  Done.  Don't boot to the newest kernel if it doesn't
>>>>> support the EEE.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I just gave up  and and installed eeeUbuntu and removed Gnome and
>>>> installed KDE, RaLink Wireless works fine in gnome but not KDE,
>>>>
>>>>
>>> In which case I'd just install nm-applet (the gnome front-end for Network
>>>
>>> manager) or wicd or anything else that works, but...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> kdenetwork won't let me enter a WEP key, If I check "Use Wireless
>>>> Security" and click on "Expert setting" button it won't go any further
>>>> to allow me to enter a WEP key.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If you're only going to use WEP, then why even bother?  WEP is
>>> approximately
>>> equivalent to no security at all...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> So is wap and the other ones.
>>
>>
>
> Locks, passwords, etc. just keep honest people honest. If you want total
> computer security just turn it off, unplug it, and mash it with a _BIG_
> hammer. Effective but not very useful. Otherwise, just get over it.
> Remember, just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get
> you.
>
> I left Gnome on my Eeebuntu 2.0. Not because I'm particularly fond of it
> but because it worked-right-out-of-the-box. Eeebuntu is specially
> optimized for the Eee. I thought about _adding_ KDE but haven't decided
> yet. I only have 12gig total "drive" space so ....
>
> My Gateway, Kubuntu 8.04/3.5.x /64, has no problem with connecting to
> "secure" networks. When I tell it to connect to a "secure" network
> KnetworkManage pops open a little box asking for the WEP key. Enter it
> and connected. I would expect it should act the same way on the Eee.
> Maybe some little whatsit got left out during the KDE install.
>
>
>
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>


-- 

--
artAlexion
sent unsigned from webmail interface



From art.alexion at gmail.com  Mon Jan 26 21:52:42 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:52:42 -0500
Subject: Grousing - feel free to ignore
In-Reply-To: <497D560E.3080009@swbell.net>
References: <497D560E.3080009@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00901261352w1110d5c9u6a401e20e7c2767f@mail.gmail.com>

4.2 (a/k/a 4.1.96) in the PPA seems significanly more stable and
usable than the release 4.0-4.1. I highly recommend it.


On 1/26/09, Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh at swbell.net> wrote:
> Well........it looks like I'm using 8.10/4.x beginning today. I've had
> ongoing issues with the video settings in 8.04/3.x for some time and it
> blew up again. I already had 8.10/4.x installed and all my major files
> were copied over to it so.....................
>
> I can't say I'm particularly happy with the situation but.................
>
> Asi es la vida.
>
> --
> - - Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.
>
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>


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--
artAlexion
sent unsigned from webmail interface



From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Mon Jan 26 21:54:59 2009
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:54:59 +1000
Subject: How to access the memory card of a Kodak C330 digital camera via
	Kubuntu 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901260544o2651d096ldcaadec13cbac531@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901260544o2651d096ldcaadec13cbac531@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901270755.02992.lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com>

On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:44:32 pm Bas Roufs wrote:
> Today, I fruitlessly tried to access a digital camera, with a view to
> downloading from there the photo files to the PC. The camera is a
> 'Kodak Easyshare C330'. I use a special interface cable meant to make
> a connection between a USB port and the camera. However, nothing
> happened - the device was not being recognised.

I have this exact same camera. I use gtkam to pull photo's off it.

  sudo apt-get install gtcam


-- 
Lindsay Mathieson
http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home
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From d.mcglone at att.net  Mon Jan 26 21:57:59 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:57:59 -0500
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <r2d156-2qr.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net> <497DF8C9.9030106@sbcglobal.net>
	<r2d156-2qr.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <200901261657.59857.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Monday 26 January 2009 1:47:23 pm Derek Broughton wrote:
> Jim wrote:
> > Derek Broughton wrote:
> >> Jim wrote:
> >>>> If you're only going to use WEP, then why even bother?  WEP is
> >>>
> >>> So is wap and the other ones.
> >>
> >> That's WPA, and it's quite significantly more secure than WEP.  "The
> >> other ones" (generally WPA-based) can be very secure.
> >
> > There is a lot of articles out there that totally disagree with you. On
> > WPA.
>
> Cite even one.  There are many articles out there that say it can be
> cracked.  No doubt about it, but it is a couple of orders of magnitude
> tougher than WEP (which should take a beginner about 15 minutes).  If you
> change your keys _frequently_ (more frequently than practically anybody
> would, manually) WPA should be quite secure.  That's why you can make a
> secure network based on WPA.

Crack WEP with 300 PS3's maybe 600 PS3's will do the job ;-)
-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Mon Jan 26 22:21:56 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:21:56 -0600
Subject: Grousing - feel free to ignore
In-Reply-To: <5a1f6bd00901261352w1110d5c9u6a401e20e7c2767f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <497D560E.3080009@swbell.net>
	<5a1f6bd00901261352w1110d5c9u6a401e20e7c2767f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497E3784.6060409@swbell.net>

Art Alexion wrote:
> 4.2 (a/k/a 4.1.96) in the PPA seems significanly more stable and
> usable than the release 4.0-4.1. I highly recommend it.
>
>
> On 1/26/09, Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh at swbell.net> wrote:
>   
>> Well........it looks like I'm using 8.10/4.x beginning today. I've had
>> ongoing issues with the video settings in 8.04/3.x for some time and it
>> blew up again. I already had 8.10/4.x installed and all my major files
>> were copied over to it so.....................
>>
>> I can't say I'm particularly happy with the situation but.................
>>
>> Asi es la vida.
>>
>>     
>   

I just hadn't really planned on a full migration just yet. I was 
thinking by 9.10. 4.1 is usable even with the things I'm not so crazy 
about. I guess the signature says it all.

4.2 is due out any time so I think I will just leave well enough alone 
till then. It should be in the repos in a few days. If not, then 9.04 is 
just around the corner. I can live with it at least that long.



From kassube at gmx.net  Mon Jan 26 22:26:50 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:26:50 +0100
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <200901261657.59857.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net> <r2d156-2qr.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901261657.59857.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <200901262326.51008.kassube@gmx.net>

David McGlone wrote:
> Crack WEP with 300 PS3's maybe 600 PS3's will do the job ;-)

I have news for you - news from 2007 that is:
<http://www.heise-online.co.uk/security/news/87889>

WEP encryption can be cracked in under a minute. And I couldn't find 
anything about the necessity of PS3's. From the original paper:

| The required computational effort is approximately 2^20 RC4 key setups,
| which on current desktop and laptop CPUs is negligible. 

Could it be you meant WPA instead of WEP?


Nils



From d.mcglone at att.net  Mon Jan 26 22:32:03 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:32:03 -0500
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <200901262326.51008.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901261657.59857.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<200901262326.51008.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <200901261732.03228.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Monday 26 January 2009 5:26:50 pm Nils Kassube wrote:
> David McGlone wrote:
> > Crack WEP with 300 PS3's maybe 600 PS3's will do the job ;-)
>
> I have news for you - news from 2007 that is:
> <http://www.heise-online.co.uk/security/news/87889>
>
> WEP encryption can be cracked in under a minute. And I couldn't find
>
> anything about the necessity of PS3's. From the original paper:
> | The required computational effort is approximately 2^20 RC4 key setups,
> | which on current desktop and laptop CPUs is negligible.
>
> Could it be you meant WPA instead of WEP?

Probably. I heard something about someone cracking one or the other with 300 
PS3's. I didn't delve into it, but heard about it in passing somewhere. 

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 26 22:55:59 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:55:59 -0500
Subject: Using Konsole,
	how do I get my computer to recognize my new Card Reader.
Message-ID: <200901261756.00524.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I have gotten my computer to recognize the card reader using the GUI, which 
was a great accomplishment for me, however, I am wanting to become able to 
use the shell for such things.  Hardy KDE 3.5.10

This problem is solved, however, for anyone willing to take the time to help 
me do the same thing using the shell, I would appreciate it.  Those time 
limited just avoid this post.

To get it recognized in the gui, I opened Kmenu>System Settings>Advanced 
Tab>Disk&Filesystems>Highlighted 1 Partition 982.4 Mb/Device/dev/sdc1.  It 
showed as auto for Type.

The only option at the bottom of the screen, after entering Administrator 
Mode, was New, so I clicked on New.  For <mount point> I chose /media/sdc1, 
and for permissins chose everyone.  When I clicked on OK, the mount point was 
set as instructed and it showed as disabled.  I then clicked on the Enable 
option at the bottom of the window and closed the package.  

This worked so I know it is one way of getting the job done, however, when I 
attempted to first locat the sdc1 device using the shell, I failed.  

First I opened /root/media to see if the reader showed there, it did not.  I 
attempted various addresses, like /system settings/advanced/disk&filesystem, 
and failed.  I tried /dev/sdc1 and failed.  

You see my process of thinking.  I just could not find a way to work with it 
using the terminal.  

I tried ls /dev/sdc1, too.  'ls /media' showed it as recognized, but I drew a 
blank as what to do next and used the GUI.  Even that choice was 
experimental, but it worked, and for that I am happy.  TIA

Steven



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Tue Jan 27 00:10:03 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:10:03 -0600
Subject: Using Konsole, how do I get my computer to recognize my new Card
	Reader.
In-Reply-To: <200901261756.00524.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901261756.00524.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <497E50DB.8000702@swbell.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I have gotten my computer to recognize the card reader using the GUI, which 
> was a great accomplishment for me, however, I am wanting to become able to 
> use the shell for such things.  Hardy KDE 3.5.10
>
> This problem is solved, however, for anyone willing to take the time to help 
> me do the same thing using the shell, I would appreciate it.  Those time 
> limited just avoid this post.
>
> To get it recognized in the gui, I opened Kmenu>System Settings>Advanced 
> Tab>Disk&Filesystems>Highlighted 1 Partition 982.4 Mb/Device/dev/sdc1.  It 
> showed as auto for Type.
>
> The only option at the bottom of the screen, after entering Administrator 
> Mode, was New, so I clicked on New.  For <mount point> I chose /media/sdc1, 
> and for permissins chose everyone.  When I clicked on OK, the mount point was 
> set as instructed and it showed as disabled.  I then clicked on the Enable 
> option at the bottom of the window and closed the package.  
>
> This worked so I know it is one way of getting the job done, however, when I 
> attempted to first locat the sdc1 device using the shell, I failed.  
>
> First I opened /root/media to see if the reader showed there, it did not.  I 
> attempted various addresses, like /system settings/advanced/disk&filesystem, 
> and failed.  I tried /dev/sdc1 and failed.  
>
> You see my process of thinking.  I just could not find a way to work with it 
> using the terminal.  
>
> I tried ls /dev/sdc1, too.  'ls /media' showed it as recognized, but I drew a 
> blank as what to do next and used the GUI.  Even that choice was 
> experimental, but it worked, and for that I am happy.  TIA
>
> Steven
>
>   

This may be a stupid question, but have you tried to stick in a memory 
card. Mine doesn't show up until a memory card is inserted. As soon as 
the card is inserted it pops in.



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan 27 00:53:13 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:53:13 -0500
Subject: Using Konsole,
	how do I get my computer to recognize my new Card Reader.
In-Reply-To: <497E50DB.8000702@swbell.net>
References: <200901261756.00524.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<497E50DB.8000702@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <200901261953.14492.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> This may be a stupid question, but have you tried to stick in a memory
> card. Mine doesn't show up until a memory card is inserted. As soon as
> the card is inserted it pops in.

Yes.  My computer has been problematic for the 3 years I have owned it.  It 
was used when I got it, and not working.

I am pretty sure that there is a hardware issue that doesn't show up very 
often, but for some reason, my computer does not always react the way a 
normal Kubuntu OS does.  I am constantly fixing similar problems where I am 
not doing any changes when they happen, so there is nothing I am doing where 
the cause might be suggested.

When I put the card in the first time, nothing happened at all.  /root/media 
did not even show it as a part of the system.  That is where I go to find my 
partitions when something has gone wrong with the system that I relate to the 
previous paragraph.  

Not being there and having a light showing on the reader, I went to Systems 
Settings to the Advanced Tab and then to Disk&Filesystems.  The GUI that 
shows my partitions and drives is there.  It showed there, so I knew the 
computer recognized it.  I then went through the steps mentioned in the 
previous email to get it functioning.

There have been a lot of people helping me in the List, so I only showed the 
content of the email to show them the progress they are responsible for, in 
my being able to start fixing my own problems.  It was done in gratitude, not 
to show off.  Still, I am most interested in becoming capable using the 
shell.  That is why I made this post.  I can't seem to keep enough on the 
front lobe to solve these problems yet, and still need some help.  I am 
probably the most incapable student ever, but I will never stop trying until 
I conquor the beast.

Thanks for the inquiry.

Steven



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Tue Jan 27 02:19:56 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:19:56 -0400
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901261657.59857.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<200901262326.51008.kassube@gmx.net>
	<200901261732.03228.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <dj7256-i45.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

David McGlone wrote:

> On Monday 26 January 2009 5:26:50 pm Nils Kassube wrote:
>> David McGlone wrote:
>> > Crack WEP with 300 PS3's maybe 600 PS3's will do the job ;-)
>>
>> I have news for you - news from 2007 that is:
>> <http://www.heise-online.co.uk/security/news/87889>
>>
>> WEP encryption can be cracked in under a minute. And I couldn't find
>>
>> anything about the necessity of PS3's. From the original paper:
>> | The required computational effort is approximately 2^20 RC4 key setups,
>> | which on current desktop and laptop CPUs is negligible.
>>
>> Could it be you meant WPA instead of WEP?
> 
> Probably. I heard something about someone cracking one or the other with
> 300 PS3's. I didn't delve into it, but heard about it in passing
> somewhere.

So, nobody's contradicting my off-the-top-of-my-head numbers.  If you need 
300 PS3s to crack WPA, that's actually more difficult than I would have 
expected.  I was counting on about 6 hours with a single machine.  






From iodine at runbox.no  Tue Jan 27 02:47:36 2009
From: iodine at runbox.no (iodine at runbox.no)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:47:36 +0100
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <dj7256-i45.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>	<200901261657.59857.d.mcglone@att.net>	<200901262326.51008.kassube@gmx.net>	<200901261732.03228.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<dj7256-i45.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <497E75C8.40200@runbox.no>

Derek Broughton wrote:
> David McGlone wrote:
> 
>> On Monday 26 January 2009 5:26:50 pm Nils Kassube wrote:
>>> David McGlone wrote:
>>>> Crack WEP with 300 PS3's maybe 600 PS3's will do the job ;-)
>>> I have news for you - news from 2007 that is:
>>> <http://www.heise-online.co.uk/security/news/87889>
>>>
>>> WEP encryption can be cracked in under a minute. And I couldn't find
>>>
>>> anything about the necessity of PS3's. From the original paper:
>>> | The required computational effort is approximately 2^20 RC4 key setups,
>>> | which on current desktop and laptop CPUs is negligible.
>>>
>>> Could it be you meant WPA instead of WEP?
>> Probably. I heard something about someone cracking one or the other with
>> 300 PS3's. I didn't delve into it, but heard about it in passing
>> somewhere.
> 
> So, nobody's contradicting my off-the-top-of-my-head numbers.  If you need 
> 300 PS3s to crack WPA, that's actually more difficult than I would have 
> expected.  I was counting on about 6 hours with a single machine.  

It depends on the password. The longer the password, the longer it
will take to crack it. I'm not sure if 300 PS3s is sufficient to
crack it in a meaningful time or not. But note that this flaw in
WPA ONLY affects TKIP(RC4) encryption. Once you move to AES
encryption, this attack do not work anymore.

-- 
Odd



From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan 27 03:07:29 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:07:29 -0500
Subject: Can't get WEP to accept KEY
In-Reply-To: <200901262120.23877.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <497C8DC0.50708@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901261857.58907.kassube@gmx.net>	<497E0F2E.7080209@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901262120.23877.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <497E7A71.6020901@sbcglobal.net>

Nils Kassube wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>   
>> Nils Kassube wrote:
>>     
>>> Jim wrote:
>>>       
>>>> The only thing in /etc/network/interfaces
>>>>
>>>> auto lo
>>>> iface lo inet loopback
>>>>
>>>> What would I put in file to indicate WEP key ?
>>>>         
>>> Does this help? <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045>
>>> First hit at google for "/etc/network/interfaces wep" (without
>>> quotes).
>>>       
>> I have the same setup and it's not making any difference,
>> knetworkManager is even seeing /etc/network/interfaces.
>>     
>
> OK, then there are still two other options I can think of.
>
> a) Uninstall knetworkmanager and install nm-applet (that is the equivalent 
> for Gnome).
>
> b) Install wicd instead of networkmanager.
>
> I know nm-applet works with Intrepid while I had problems with 
> knetworkmanager. However I can't tell you if it works with WEP because I 
> only use WPA2 here. And I don't have Intrepid installed so I can't test 
> it.
>
>
> Nils
>
>   
Thanks guys for your help, but I installed Fedora 10 on my  Eee 1000 
because they have a driver Rt2860 that works perfect and has a 
NetworkManager that works.




From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan 27 03:10:11 2009
From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:10:11 -0500
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <5a1f6bd00901261350j421e45afs3aedb14b22382b72@mail.gmail.com>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net>
	<497B5E48.7010701@swbell.net>	<497B63AA.90900@sbcglobal.net>
	<497B6706.9060202@swbell.net>	<497B6A79.5020605@sbcglobal.net>
	<nfbs46-vck.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<497C8F88.6040905@sbcglobal.net>
	<p0jv46-k2a.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<497DD249.8000408@sbcglobal.net>
	<497DD7C0.7000001@swbell.net>
	<5a1f6bd00901261350j421e45afs3aedb14b22382b72@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497E7B13.4000907@sbcglobal.net>

Art Alexion wrote:
> I have to (fully) agree with Billie. I have configure about 6 eee
> 1000s with Ubuntu and with a few tweaks to fstab and enabling the
> camera in the BIOS, everything works.
>
> I do not install KDE for the same reason.
>
>
>
> On 1/26/09, Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh at swbell.net> wrote:
>   
>> Jim wrote:
>>     
>>> Derek Broughton wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Jim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> There's no need to "go back".  Start with whatever Ubuntu you can get,
>>>>>> update the repositories to the current version, upgrade, and install
>>>>>> kubuntu-desktop.  Done.  Don't boot to the newest kernel if it doesn't
>>>>>> support the EEE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> I just gave up  and and installed eeeUbuntu and removed Gnome and
>>>>> installed KDE, RaLink Wireless works fine in gnome but not KDE,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> In which case I'd just install nm-applet (the gnome front-end for Network
>>>>
>>>> manager) or wicd or anything else that works, but...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> kdenetwork won't let me enter a WEP key, If I check "Use Wireless
>>>>> Security" and click on "Expert setting" button it won't go any further
>>>>> to allow me to enter a WEP key.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> If you're only going to use WEP, then why even bother?  WEP is
>>>> approximately
>>>> equivalent to no security at all...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> So is wap and the other ones.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> Locks, passwords, etc. just keep honest people honest. If you want total
>> computer security just turn it off, unplug it, and mash it with a _BIG_
>> hammer. Effective but not very useful. Otherwise, just get over it.
>> Remember, just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get
>> you.
>>
>> I left Gnome on my Eeebuntu 2.0. Not because I'm particularly fond of it
>> but because it worked-right-out-of-the-box. Eeebuntu is specially
>> optimized for the Eee. I thought about _adding_ KDE but haven't decided
>> yet. I only have 12gig total "drive" space so ....
>>
>> My Gateway, Kubuntu 8.04/3.5.x /64, has no problem with connecting to
>> "secure" networks. When I tell it to connect to a "secure" network
>> KnetworkManage pops open a little box asking for the WEP key. Enter it
>> and connected. I would expect it should act the same way on the Eee.
>> Maybe some little whatsit got left out during the KDE install.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>>
>>     
>
>
>   
Thanks for your help guys, but I Installed Fedora 10, they have a driver 
that works perfect and NetworkManager that works.

Thanks again.



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 27 06:51:02 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:51:02 -0600
Subject: mc on Slashdot (was: Re: missing keyboard shortcut in mc 4.6.2-pre1
	from kubuntu repo???)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <200901270051.03100.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

According to a recent Slashdot article, there's new development activity for 
mc.  For the OP and anyone else interested in mc, I thought I'd post the link.

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/26/1917254&from=rss



From bd.rohit.computer at gmail.com  Tue Jan 27 08:29:27 2009
From: bd.rohit.computer at gmail.com (rohit bavdekar)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:59:27 +0530
Subject: Kubuntu forum and a broken APT + Adept - Help needed
Message-ID: <40dd48300901270029p67fbac18r35f5c56ec48e11b4@mail.gmail.com>

After recently switching from a windows platform to Kubuntu, I tried
to register on the user forum maintained there. For some reason I've
been blocked from posting messages. The IP probably was alloted to
someone who must've tried to hack the site or post some rubbish. Any
ideas on how I can get back on? It's too much of a pain to get my ISP
to change my IP address.

Another chaos is that the Adept installer has crashed. I've tried to
repair it thru sudo apt-get install, but somewhere down the line it
requires an http page. How do I go about fixing this?

Thanks all.



From dave at thefletchers.net  Tue Jan 27 10:46:16 2009
From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:46:16 +0000
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <497E75C8.40200@runbox.no>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net> <dj7256-i45.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<497E75C8.40200@runbox.no>
Message-ID: <200901271046.16304.dave@thefletchers.net>

On Tuesday 27 January 2009 02:47:36 iodine at runbox.no wrote:
>
> It depends on the password. The longer the password, the longer it
> will take to crack it. I'm not sure if 300 PS3s is sufficient to
> crack it in a meaningful time or not. But note that this flaw in
> WPA ONLY affects TKIP(RC4) encryption. Once you move to AES
> encryption, this attack do not work anymore.
>

Is AES what you get if WPA2 is selected rather than WPA? My router has tick 
boxes for either WPA/WPA2 or WPA2 only. My son's PSP only works if I select 
the first option.

Dave




From magick.crow at gmail.com  Tue Jan 27 11:04:55 2009
From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:04:55 +0100
Subject: Java kills sound
Message-ID: <f495db580901270304j1ef1d2fcr9eae41f1a7cb1901@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, when I run anything Java my sounds stops working (Still works
in Java though) for other programs and xine will not start up. Any
ideas about how to fix this?
Thanks all!
-- 
Douglas E Knapp

Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE



From linuxhippy at gmail.com  Tue Jan 27 12:34:32 2009
From: linuxhippy at gmail.com (Clemens Eisserer)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:34:32 +0100
Subject: Terrible video performance: ATI w/ proprietary driver
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901250458y2b3e0509ofbd013a4863f1e7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00901250412j2f0fca72odc1dad683c67742e@mail.gmail.com>
	<880dece00901250458y2b3e0509ofbd013a4863f1e7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <194f62550901270434ib7c79c2p1fb7b2154635150f@mail.gmail.com>

At least what I've seen from the xorg-snippit you posted you never
used the mesa drivers.
So it seems your setup was screwed.

- Clemens

2009/1/25 Dotan Cohen <dotancohen at gmail.com>:
> Nevermind, I removed xserver-xgl to switch from the Mesa drivers to
> the ATI drivers and now it's fine.
>
> --
> Dotan Cohen
>
> http://what-is-what.com
> http://gibberish.co.il
>
> א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
> ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي
> А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
> а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
> ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>

From kassube at gmx.net  Tue Jan 27 14:02:14 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:02:14 +0100
Subject: Using Konsole,
	how do I get my computer to recognize my new Card Reader.
In-Reply-To: <200901261756.00524.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901261756.00524.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901271502.14188.kassube@gmx.net>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> I have gotten my computer to recognize the card reader using the GUI,
> which was a great accomplishment for me, however, I am wanting to
> become able to use the shell for such things.  Hardy KDE 3.5.10
>
> To get it recognized in the gui, I opened Kmenu>System
> Settings>Advanced Tab>Disk&Filesystems>Highlighted 1 Partition 982.4
> Mb/Device/dev/sdc1.  It showed as auto for Type.

As I understand it, that is the place where you manage your fstab entries. 
IMHO, a card reader should better not be included in /etc/fstab because it 
contains removable media. These media should be available to the current 
user without any extra effort by the administrator. A better GUI way to 
find the card reader would be "system menu" -> "storage media". BTW: The 
system menu is the icon to the right from the K menu in the system tray 
of a default installation.

> The only option at the bottom of the screen, after entering
> Administrator Mode, was New, so I clicked on New.  For <mount point> I
> chose /media/sdc1, and for permissins chose everyone.  When I clicked
> on OK, the mount point was set as instructed and it showed as disabled.
>  I then clicked on the Enable option at the bottom of the window and
> closed the package.
>
> This worked so I know it is one way of getting the job done, however,
> when I attempted to first locat the sdc1 device using the shell, I
> failed.
>
> First I opened /root/media to see if the reader showed there, it did
> not.  

No, it can't be there, it would be in /media/sdc1 instead because that is 
the mount point you chose. If you want to find out where a partition is 
mounted use the mount command without parameters. It shows the devices 
and mount points for all mounted partitions.

> I attempted various addresses, like /system 
> settings/advanced/disk&filesystem, and failed.  

There is no directory /system settings/advanced/disk&filesystem (unless 
you created one). The GUI menues have no relation to the actual file 
system which is what you see at the command line.

> I tried /dev/sdc1 and failed.

Well, /dev/sdc1 should have existed because that is what you found with 
the GUI. However it is NOT a directory where you can read or store files. 
It is the device entry for this particular partition. You are not allowed 
to read directly from that device because you could read data which 
should not be visible to all users due to the permissions of particular 
files stored on the file system of that device. And you are not allowed 
to directly write to the device either because you would destroy the file 
system on the device. So the only way to access the device is if it is 
mounted somewhere in your file system tree.

If you want to mount removable media like USB sticks or card readers from 
the command line, I would suggest you install the package pmount which 
gives you the commands pmount and pumount. Then you would mount the sdc1 
partition with the command

pmount /dev/sdc1

and don't use sudo for this command. Then the partition will be mounted 
to /media/sdc1 even without an entry in /etc/fstab. If you don't know 
which partitions are available use

ls /dev/sd*

to see all of the devices. Only those devices with a number at the end are 
mountable partitions. Before you unplug a device, use the command

pumount /dev/sdc1

and wait for the command prompt before you unplug it to make sure that all 
files are written to the device.


Nils



From kassube at gmx.net  Tue Jan 27 14:03:55 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:03:55 +0100
Subject: Asus EEEpc 1000
In-Reply-To: <200901271046.16304.dave@thefletchers.net>
References: <497A0D57.7090003@sbcglobal.net> <497E75C8.40200@runbox.no>
	<200901271046.16304.dave@thefletchers.net>
Message-ID: <200901271503.55462.kassube@gmx.net>

David Fletcher wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 January 2009 02:47:36 iodine at runbox.no wrote:
> > It depends on the password. The longer the password, the longer it
> > will take to crack it. I'm not sure if 300 PS3s is sufficient to
> > crack it in a meaningful time or not. But note that this flaw in
> > WPA ONLY affects TKIP(RC4) encryption. Once you move to AES
> > encryption, this attack do not work anymore.
>
> Is AES what you get if WPA2 is selected rather than WPA? 

Yes.

> My router has 
> tick boxes for either WPA/WPA2 or WPA2 only. My son's PSP only works if
> I select the first option.

Well, that's the problem with old hardware, it can't be used with WPA2. 
However, WPA isn't that insecure for now. What would an attacker want 
from your wireless network? If it is a home network he probably wants to 
get free internet access and it would be much easier to find a WEP 
encrypted or even an open access point than cracking a WPA encrypted AP. 
Granted, there is a known attack for WPA which uses a flaw in in the WPA 
protocol but as I understand it, it is of limited value until now. Of 
course it doesn't mean that WPA will be good enough for a long time.

However, if it is the AP of a company the atacker might rather be 
interested to get information (trade secrets etc.) from computers of the 
company. In this situation he might use a lot of computer power to get 
access to this particular network, so WPA is certainly not good enough.


Nils



From paulatgm at gmail.com  Tue Jan 27 15:07:42 2009
From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:07:42 -0500
Subject: viewing imagemagick docs
Message-ID: <497F233E.5010103@gmail.com>

I'm trying to view imagemagick docs in 
/usr/share/doc/imagemagick/index.html and the web browser disappears 
when I click on it or try to open it in the terminal.  I say disappears 
instead of crash, because 'ps aux | grep firef (or opera or konqueror) 
shows it's still running.

I've tried firefox, konqueror and opera, and get the same experience. 
Is there voodoo in those docs.  Can anyone try this and see if you have 
the same problem?

TIA



From paulatgm at gmail.com  Tue Jan 27 15:11:38 2009
From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:11:38 -0500
Subject: viewing imagemagick docs
In-Reply-To: <497F233E.5010103@gmail.com>
References: <497F233E.5010103@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497F242A.6080001@gmail.com>

Paul S said the following on 01/27/2009 10:07 AM:
> I'm trying to view imagemagick docs in 
> /usr/share/doc/imagemagick/index.html and the web browser disappears 
> when I click on it or try to open it in the terminal.  I say disappears 
> instead of crash, because 'ps aux | grep firef (or opera or konqueror) 
> shows it's still running.
> 
> I've tried firefox, konqueror and opera, and get the same experience. Is 
> there voodoo in those docs.  Can anyone try this and see if you have the 
> same problem?
> 
> TIA
> 

I just noticed the same thing happens when I visit imagemagick.org. 
Could you check there too?

TIA



From kassube at gmx.net  Tue Jan 27 15:33:42 2009
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:33:42 +0100
Subject: viewing imagemagick docs
In-Reply-To: <497F233E.5010103@gmail.com>
References: <497F233E.5010103@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901271633.42524.kassube@gmx.net>

Paul S wrote:
> I'm trying to view imagemagick docs in
> /usr/share/doc/imagemagick/index.html and the web browser disappears
> when I click on it or try to open it in the terminal.  I say disappears
> instead of crash, because 'ps aux | grep firef (or opera or konqueror)
> shows it's still running.
>
> I've tried firefox, konqueror and opera, and get the same experience.
> Is there voodoo in those docs.  Can anyone try this and see if you have
> the same problem?

No problem with Konqueror here (Kubuntu 8.04 / KDE 3.5.10).


Nils



From tycho at tycho.ws  Tue Jan 27 15:28:16 2009
From: tycho at tycho.ws (Tycho Andersen)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:28:16 -0600
Subject: viewing imagemagick docs
In-Reply-To: <497F242A.6080001@gmail.com>
References: <497F233E.5010103@gmail.com> <497F242A.6080001@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49b3a7400901270728s59b2cff2w66073c164282ff5f@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Paul S <paulatgm at gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul S said the following on 01/27/2009 10:07 AM:
> I just noticed the same thing happens when I visit imagemagick.org.
> Could you check there too?

Both docs seem to work fine for me. Interesting that it happens in all
three browsers, though. Can you render the pages in lynx?

Tycho



From art.alexion at gmail.com  Tue Jan 27 19:38:40 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:38:40 -0500
Subject: Grousing - feel free to ignore
In-Reply-To: <497E3784.6060409@swbell.net>
References: <497D560E.3080009@swbell.net>
	<5a1f6bd00901261352w1110d5c9u6a401e20e7c2767f@mail.gmail.com>
	<497E3784.6060409@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <200901271438.45610.art.alexion@gmail.com>

On Monday 26 January 2009 5:21:56 pm Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> Art Alexion wrote:
> > 4.2 (a/k/a 4.1.96) in the PPA seems significanly more stable and
> > usable than the release 4.0-4.1. I highly recommend it.
> >
> >
> > On 1/26/09, Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh at swbell.net> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >> Well........it looks like I'm using 8.10/4.x beginning today. I've had
> >> ongoing issues with the video settings in 8.04/3.x for some time and it
> >> blew up again. I already had 8.10/4.x installed and all my major files
> >> were copied over to it so.....................
> >>
> >> I can't say I'm particularly happy with the situation
> >> but.................
> >>
> >> Asi es la vida.
> >>
> >>    
> >
> >  
>
> I just hadn't really planned on a full migration just yet. I was
> thinking by 9.10. 4.1 is usable even with the things I'm not so crazy
> about. I guess the signature says it all.
>
> 4.2 is due out any time so I think I will just leave well enough alone
> till then. It should be in the repos in a few days. If not, then 9.04 is
> just around the corner. I can live with it at least that long.

Well, I take back my original statement anyway.  Everything in 4.2 works 
better and is more stable than 4.1... except the stuff I use the most... 
quick launch which seems unconfigurable[1], and kmail which constantly 
crashes.

[1] yeah, you can write your own .desktop files, but unlike older versions, 
you can't configure auto-additon by popularity or drag and drop icons.

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From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Tue Jan 27 20:07:11 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:07:11 -0600
Subject: Grousing - feel free to ignore
In-Reply-To: <200901271438.45610.art.alexion@gmail.com>
References: <497D560E.3080009@swbell.net>	<5a1f6bd00901261352w1110d5c9u6a401e20e7c2767f@mail.gmail.com>	<497E3784.6060409@swbell.net>
	<200901271438.45610.art.alexion@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497F696F.7040406@swbell.net>

Art Alexion wrote:
> On Monday 26 January 2009 5:21:56 pm Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>   
>>
>> I just hadn't really planned on a full migration just yet. I was
>> thinking by 9.10. 4.1 is usable even with the things I'm not so crazy
>> about. I guess the signature says it all.
>>
>> 4.2 is due out any time so I think I will just leave well enough alone
>> till then. It should be in the repos in a few days. If not, then 9.04 is
>> just around the corner. I can live with it at least that long.
>>     
>
> Well, I take back my original statement anyway.  Everything in 4.2 works 
> better and is more stable than 4.1... except the stuff I use the most... 
> quick launch which seems unconfigurable[1], and kmail which constantly 
> crashes.
>
> [1] yeah, you can write your own .desktop files, but unlike older versions, 
> you can't configure auto-additon by popularity or drag and drop icons.
>
>   
Well, at least there's one bit of semi-good news. Quick Launch is coming 
back......slowly. That was the one thing I missed most in 4.1. The 
"Quick Launch" widget that someone pointed to wouldn't load because I 
have 8.10-64 and it was only 32 bit. At least that was the error message 
that popped up. In-com-pat-able.


-- 
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From jonorland at gmail.com  Tue Jan 27 20:41:25 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:41:25 +0100
Subject: Grousing - feel free to ignore
In-Reply-To: <497F696F.7040406@swbell.net>
References: <497D560E.3080009@swbell.net>
	<5a1f6bd00901261352w1110d5c9u6a401e20e7c2767f@mail.gmail.com>
	<497E3784.6060409@swbell.net>
	<200901271438.45610.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<497F696F.7040406@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901271241j271d5494g86009b84360716bf@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/27 Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh at swbell.net>:
> Well, at least there's one bit of semi-good news. Quick Launch is coming
> back......slowly. That was the one thing I missed most in 4.1. The
> "Quick Launch" widget that someone pointed to wouldn't load because I
> have 8.10-64 and it was only 32 bit. At least that was the error message
> that popped up. In-com-pat-able.
>

I have compiled it as a deb archive for Intrepid amd 64. I can mail it
off list to you if you want?

/ Jonas



From glgxg at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jan 27 21:30:18 2009
From: glgxg at sbcglobal.net (NoOp)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:30:18 -0800
Subject: viewing imagemagick docs
In-Reply-To: <497F242A.6080001@gmail.com>
References: <497F233E.5010103@gmail.com> <497F242A.6080001@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <glnudc$tr7$1@ger.gmane.org>

On 01/27/2009 07:11 AM, Paul S wrote:
> Paul S said the following on 01/27/2009 10:07 AM:
>> I'm trying to view imagemagick docs in 
>> /usr/share/doc/imagemagick/index.html and the web browser disappears 
>> when I click on it or try to open it in the terminal.  I say disappears 
>> instead of crash, because 'ps aux | grep firef (or opera or konqueror) 
>> shows it's still running.
>> 
>> I've tried firefox, konqueror and opera, and get the same experience. Is 
>> there voodoo in those docs.  Can anyone try this and see if you have the 
>> same problem?
>> 
>> TIA
>> 
> 
> I just noticed the same thing happens when I visit imagemagick.org. 
> Could you check there too?
> 
> TIA
> 

Works for me; hardy Fx 3.0.5 and SeaMonkey/2.0a3pre.

Sounds like you may have a Fx issue. Close Fx and then rename your
~/.mozilla/firefox:

$ mv ~/.mozilla/firefox ~/.mozilla/x-firefox-x

Then restart Fx. When you get the import popup, select the 'don't import
anything'. That will create a new default Fx profile. Test your
imagemagick. If it works, then you know that the problem is with your
previous profile. Remove the test profile, move your old Fx profile back
& you can then troubleshoot from there.





From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Wed Jan 28 00:16:48 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:16:48 -0600
Subject: Grousing - feel free to ignore
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901271241j271d5494g86009b84360716bf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <497D560E.3080009@swbell.net>	<5a1f6bd00901261352w1110d5c9u6a401e20e7c2767f@mail.gmail.com>	<497E3784.6060409@swbell.net>	<200901271438.45610.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<497F696F.7040406@swbell.net>
	<b8d784880901271241j271d5494g86009b84360716bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497FA3F0.9070802@swbell.net>

Jonas Norlander wrote:
> 2009/1/27 Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh at swbell.net>:
>   
>> Well, at least there's one bit of semi-good news. Quick Launch is coming
>> back......slowly. That was the one thing I missed most in 4.1. The
>> "Quick Launch" widget that someone pointed to wouldn't load because I
>> have 8.10-64 and it was only 32 bit. At least that was the error message
>> that popped up. In-com-pat-able.
>>
>>     
>
> I have compiled it as a deb archive for Intrepid amd 64. I can mail it
> off list to you if you want?
>
> / Jonas
>
>   
That would be much appreciated. Thank You.



From art.alexion at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 02:04:16 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:04:16 -0500
Subject: Grousing - feel free to ignore
In-Reply-To: <497FA3F0.9070802@swbell.net>
References: <497D560E.3080009@swbell.net>
	<5a1f6bd00901261352w1110d5c9u6a401e20e7c2767f@mail.gmail.com>
	<497E3784.6060409@swbell.net>
	<200901271438.45610.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<497F696F.7040406@swbell.net>
	<b8d784880901271241j271d5494g86009b84360716bf@mail.gmail.com>
	<497FA3F0.9070802@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <5a1f6bd00901271804i4440617cre229671b4f2ffc9b@mail.gmail.com>

The one automatically installed on my 64 bit system came from the KDE 4.2 PPA.

On 1/27/09, Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh at swbell.net> wrote:
> Jonas Norlander wrote:
>> 2009/1/27 Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh at swbell.net>:
>>
>>> Well, at least there's one bit of semi-good news. Quick Launch is coming
>>> back......slowly. That was the one thing I missed most in 4.1. The
>>> "Quick Launch" widget that someone pointed to wouldn't load because I
>>> have 8.10-64 and it was only 32 bit. At least that was the error message
>>> that popped up. In-com-pat-able.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I have compiled it as a deb archive for Intrepid amd 64. I can mail it
>> off list to you if you want?
>>
>> / Jonas
>>
>>
> That would be much appreciated. Thank You.
>
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From mathiasbrito at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 02:49:39 2009
From: mathiasbrito at gmail.com (Mathias Brito)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:49:39 -0200
Subject: Google Gadgets and KDE 4.2
Message-ID: <a78b1c920901271849nb21d8cbrc1f8882fe5c0a601@mail.gmail.com>

I just update my Kubuntu 8.10 with the final version of 4.2 and cannot
use Google Gadgets with plasma!!! Is this option disable on kubuntu
packages?! Or there is something i must do in order to make this
work!? the samethig happened with KDE 4.2 RC, Beta2 and Beta1...
Someone get it working!?

Regards,
Mathias



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 28 05:11:18 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:11:18 -0500
Subject: How do I unite cd1 to cd2? Is Kino the tool?
In-Reply-To: <497295FB.2070901@gatech.edu>
References: <200901142137.37940.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901172052.23943.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<497295FB.2070901@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901280011.20577.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

Dear Matt,

Sorry I bothered you.  Please ignore last email.  I found my problem.  Stupid 
on my part and easy to fix.  Thanks anyway.

Steven





From karlok at fastmail.fm  Wed Jan 28 06:02:00 2009
From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:02:00 -0800
Subject: A KDE equivalent to gnome-open
In-Reply-To: <497FDD3F.8000603@gmail.com>
References: <497FDD3F.8000603@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497FF4D8.9000208@fastmail.fm>

Michael wrote:
> "If you want to open up a file or folder using the default application
> from your terminal in ubuntu
> (or any linux distrib using gnome), just use gnome-open. Like this:
> 
> |gnome-open ~/docs/something.pdf|
> 
> Gnome will use it’s file association tables to open it in the correct
> application, and you won’t have
> to worry about remembering what your pdf viewer is called."
> 
> (Taken from
> http://www.davidbdean.com/2007/07/06/open-file-with-default-application-from-terminal-ubuntugnome/)
> 
> 
> Does KDE have anything similar to this?
> 
> Mike
> 

xdg-open seems to do what you want.

Karl




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jan 28 06:49:16 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:49:16 -0500
Subject: Video and Audio don't sink when 2 .avi files are combined.
Message-ID: <200901280149.17711.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

Normally when I join to .avi files, they video and audio remain in sink, 
nonetheless, not this time.  The one noticable difference between this 
joining is that usually, two parts of a film are contiguous.  The second part 
starts where the first part left off.  

This time, the movie credits are included on part II as well.  I am not sure, 
but this is the only thing I can see that is different from the norm.  If 
that is the cause of the problem, how can I fix it?  TIA.

Steven



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Wed Jan 28 07:26:42 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:26:42 -0500
Subject: Video and Audio don't sink when 2 .avi files are combined.
In-Reply-To: <200901280149.17711.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901280149.17711.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <498008B2.9030208@gatech.edu>

Steven Vollom wrote:
> Normally when I join to .avi files, they video and audio remain in sink, 

Sync.

> This time, the movie credits are included on part II as well.  I am not sure, 
> but this is the only thing I can see that is different from the norm.  If 
> that is the cause of the problem, how can I fix it?  TIA.

Can you run file on each source avi?  They need to have exactly the same
format for avimerge to work.

Matt Flaschen



From basroufs at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 09:26:50 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:26:50 +0100
Subject: How to get back the Adept 'update manager' on the panel?
Message-ID: <c638edc20901280126x6db61fdfrc58eb45048374f9c@mail.gmail.com>

Dear everybody

Last week I managed to reinstall the panel of Kubuntu 8.10, thanks to help
from this forum. But this morning I saw a text balloon the 'Adept update
notifier' ( '... updates available') at a quite unusual place: at the very
top left of the screen. I could even not click on it, in order to set the
Adept update manager into motion.
For now, I solved the problem via the terminal commands 'apt-get update' and
'apt-get upgrade'.  However, I would prefer to get back the update notifier
at the panel. Does anyone have a clue how to do so?
Respectfully yours,
Bas.
-- 
===============
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From gkourtev at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 09:33:32 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:33:32 +0200
Subject: Missing widgets
Message-ID: <200901281133.33216.gkourtev@gmail.com>

Hi all,

I have just install KDE 4.2 on Interpid 8.10 and apparently some of my 
favourite widgets do not work (like 'show desktop').  Does anyone know how to 
install these under 4.2? Thanks.
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From basroufs at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 10:30:47 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:30:47 +0100
Subject: Missing widgets
In-Reply-To: <200901281133.33216.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901281133.33216.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901280230i5e989125v46c4a9bb7e4f0f4a@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Georgi

It took me about 3 months to find back the 'show desktop' widget - one of my
favourites too. However, suddenly I found it recently :-)
* go to the panel with your mouse cursor
*rigfht cllick
* choose menu 'add widgets'.
Carefully scroll through that menu. There you will see again an option to
install the 'show desktop' widget..
Note: the present day version of that widget looks different from the one I
knew from KDE3. It is now a blue flag, divided in a lighter and darker half.


Quite probably you can also find back other favourite widgets, but with a
slightly different design compared to their equivalents in KDE3.

Respectfully yours,

Bas.


2009/1/28 Georgi Kourtev <gkourtev at gmail.com>

> Hi all,
>
>
> I have just install KDE 4.2 on Interpid 8.10 and apparently some of my
> favourite widgets do not work (like 'show desktop'). Does anyone know how to
> install these under 4.2? Thanks.
> gk
>
>
>
>
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From gkourtev at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 10:44:21 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:44:21 +0200
Subject: Missing widgets
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901280230i5e989125v46c4a9bb7e4f0f4a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901281133.33216.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901280230i5e989125v46c4a9bb7e4f0f4a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901281244.21996.gkourtev@gmail.com>

Dear Bas,

Thanks. I did the upgrade from KDE4.1.2. Now with 4.2 when I followed the same 
instruction as you suggested. However, at the end I have a red square with a 
white cross on it with message "unable to load widget show desktop". This is 
the case with many of the widgets; interestingly some other do work fine like 
the switch between the different desktops (pager).
gk

On Wednesday 28 January 2009 12:30:47 Bas Roufs wrote:

> Hello Georgi

> * go to the panel with your mouse cursor
> *rigfht cllick
> * choose menu 'add widgets'.
> Carefully scroll through that menu. There you will see again an option to
> install the 'show desktop' widget..
> Note: the present day version of that widget looks different from the one I
> knew from KDE3. It is now a blue flag, divided in a lighter and darker
> half.
>

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From basroufs at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 12:14:46 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:14:46 +0100
Subject: Is it possible to manually activate an eth0 connection? 
	COMPLETELY SOLVED!
Message-ID: <c638edc20901280414g19fcceeco945fe562af75d1fa@mail.gmail.com>

Dear everybody

As mentioned before, I managed to establish a working eth0-wired LAN
connection at home. Yesterday, it became clear that it works also elsewhere.
I plugged in my laptop into another wired network/ router with another IP
address. It  worked out of the box. So, with respect to ethernet wired LAN
connections from my laptop, I am fine now.

Thx. for all the feedback on this issue.

Respectfully yours,

Bas


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From Dexter.Filmore at gmx.de  Wed Jan 28 13:34:23 2009
From: Dexter.Filmore at gmx.de (Dexter Filmore)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:34:23 +0100
Subject: vmware 6.5.0 and 8.10: no X driver
Message-ID: <200901281434.23406.Dexter.Filmore@gmx.de>

vmware tools in workstation 6.5.0 won't provide an X driver for Edgys Xorg 
7.4.2 - options? Will Open VM Tools work?

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From Dexter.Filmore at gmx.de  Wed Jan 28 13:36:23 2009
From: Dexter.Filmore at gmx.de (Dexter Filmore)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:36:23 +0100
Subject: vmware 6.5.0 and 8.10: no X driver
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From jtwdyp at ttlc.net  Wed Jan 28 14:05:26 2009
From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:05:26 -0500
Subject: fvwm unable to initialize in Kubuntu 8.10...  
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901280734310.6111@localhost.localdomain>


It would appear that in the thread [missing keyboard shortcut in mc...]
on Jan 23, Constantinos Maltezos did say:

> On Thursday 22 January 2009 10:48:21 pm Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > Would you happen to know of another WM that invests in the keyboard as a
> > primary input device??
 
> Sadly, no.  Although it's very possible that there's a window manager
> with which you can edit its keyboard shortcuts through an rc file.  I
> just don't remember off the top of my head.  But maybe FVWM does.  I do
> recall that FVWM has pretty good keyboard support.
 
In Kubuntu 8.10 I did an:

apt-get install fvwm

But I'm at a loss as to how to start an fvwm session. 

I don't know if it's significant but I boot to runlevel 3 without kdm... 
{
  one of the very first things I do to a kubuntu install is

  update-rc.d -f kdm remove

  Which I would have done via a virtual console without ever trying to
  login via the gui... which might be why when I tried to restore kdm
  to find out if fvwm would be listed if I clicked on the session type
  icon I wound up with an unusable boot prompt that didn't listen to
  either the mouse or keyboard until I did <ctrl>+<alt>+<F1> and
  logged into a console where I could at least do another:
  update-rc.d -f kdm remove
  And return to using startx... (but that's a separate issue that I'll
  never care about unless I somehow NEED kdm running to boot fvwm...)
}

But as it is I poked around the output of man fvwm and it seemed to
suggest the default place for a system configuration file would be:
/usr/local/share/fvwm 
Which directory didn't exist. Though there was a directory with a
sample config file in:
/usr/share/fvwm
So I created a symbolic link to /usr/share/fvwm in /usr/local/share.
In this sample config there was some helpful comments which included:

# The suggested way to install this configuration file is to (re)move
# any .fvwm2rc file you have in ~/.fvwm or ~ and run fvwm without any
# startup file.
#
# Then, run the "Setup 95 Script" from the root menu.

What I got from that was that it should be possible to boot a basic
default fvwm session without having configured a startup file.

However, when I try to run fvwm from a console command-line, it's unable
to "open display" And when I learned from "fvwm -h" that there was an
option  [-r] to "replace running window manager" I tried running
startx then attempted that from inside a kde konsole: And got 86 lines
of error messages and warnings and a messed up kde session...
{
  It was still running kde, but <ctrl>+<tab> no longer switched between
  the 4 configured desktops, <alt>+<tab> popped up a list of the open
  windows from all 4 desktops, And if I selected an open window from
  another desktop it would change to that desktop...
}
It occurs to me that Intrepid uses kde4 and for some reason it
doesn't appear to keep it's configuration settings in:

/etc/X11/xorg.conf

I know this because that file contains zero bytes. But it wouldn't
surprise me if fvwm needs an xorg.conf to learn how to do things like
"open display" But I'm not sure how to get a correctly configured
xorg.conf... I could copy the one from my Hardy installation which the
installer configured for this same pc. But I'm not sure how Intrepid
would react to that. Is there a way to get Intrepid to generate an
xorg.conf that matches the settings it's using (where ever the heck
their hiding?)????? 

I've included snippage of the error messages I got when I tried to
start fvwm below...

Could somebody give me a clue how to start an fvwm session in Kubuntu??? 

Thanks

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Tried this from a console screen when x wasn't running (runlevel 3)

J(tWdy)P -> /home/jtwdyp
> fvwm
[fvwm][main]: <<ERROR>> can't open display
J(tWdy)P -> /home/jtwdyp
>

Tried this from a konsole window while kde was running (startx session)

J(tWdy)P -> /home/jtwdyp
> fvwm -r
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in FvwmBorder  # MWMBorder: # MWMBorder
[fvwm][CMD_SnapAttraction]: <<DEPRECATED>> The command SnapAttraction is obsolete. Please use the following command instead:
[fvwm][]: <<DEPRECATED>> Style * SnapAttraction 10 SameType Screen
[fvwm][CMD_EdgeResistance]: <<DEPRECATED>> The command EdgeResistance with three arguments is obsolete. Please use the following commands instead:
[fvwm][]: <<DEPRECATED>> EdgeResistance 500
[fvwm][]: <<DEPRECATED>> Style * EdgeMoveDelay 500
[fvwm][]: <<DEPRECATED>> Style * EdgeMoveResistance 0
[fvwm][Read]: <<ERROR>> file '.start-Background' not found in /home/jtwdyp/.fvwm or /usr/share/fvwm
[fvwm][Read]: <<ERROR>> file '.start-apps-man' not found in /home/jtwdyp/.fvwm or /usr/share/fvwm
[fvwm][Read]: <<ERROR>> file '.start-FvwmButtons' not found in /home/jtwdyp/.fvwm or /usr/share/fvwm
[fvwm][Read]: <<ERROR>> file '.start-DeskerPanelButtons' not found in /home/jtwdyp/.fvwm or /usr/share/fvwm
[fvwm][Read]: <<ERROR>> file '.start-MiniButtons' not found in /home/jtwdyp/.fvwm or /usr/share/fvwm
[fvwm][Read]: <<ERROR>> file '.start-WinMakerAppButtons' not found in /home/jtwdyp/.fvwm or /usr/share/fvwm
[fvwm][Read]: <<ERROR>> file '.start-FvwmAnimate' not found in /home/jtwdyp/.fvwm or /usr/share/fvwm
[fvwm][Read]: <<ERROR>> file '.start-FvwmAuto' not found in /home/jtwdyp/.fvwm or /usr/share/fvwm
[fvwm][Read]: <<ERROR>> file '.start-FvwmBanner' not found in /home/jtwdyp/.fvwm or /usr/share/fvwm
[fvwm][Read]: <<ERROR>> file '.start-FvwmEvent' not found in /home/jtwdyp/.fvwm or /usr/share/fvwm
[fvwm][Read]: <<ERROR>> file '.fvwm-layers' not found in /home/jtwdyp/.fvwm or /usr/share/fvwm
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon rterm2.xpm #!E rxvt: #!E rxvt
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.bug2.xpm #!E ddd: #!E ddd
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.bug2.xpm #!E xgdb: #!E xgdb
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.edit.xpm                #!E lyx: #!E lyx
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.edit.xpm                #!E thot: #!E thot
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.gv.xpm          #!E ghostview: #!E ghostview
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.gv.xpm          #!E gv: #!E gv
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.zoom.xpm                #!E xdvi: #!E xdvi
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.pdf.xpm         #!E acroread: #!E acroread
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.pdf.xpm         #!E xpdf: #!E xpdf
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.calandar.xpm    #!E plan: #!E plan
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon graphs.xpm #!E gnuplot: #!E gnuplot
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.zoom.xpm #!E xmpale: #!E xmpale
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.graph2.xpm #!E scilab: #!E scilab
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.fractal.xpm #!E xaos: #!E xaos
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.fractal.xpm #!E xfractint: #!E xfractint
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.exp.xpm #!E xephem: #!E xephem
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.exp.xpm #!E xtide: #!E xtide
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.calc.xpm #!E thx-1138: #!E thx-1138
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon toolbox.xpm #!E tkps: #!E tkps
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon toolbox.xpm #!E xosview: #!E xosview
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon toolbox.xpm #!E xmem: #!E xmem
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.run.xpm #!E XSysStats: #!E XSysStats
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon Xfm.xpm #!E xfm: #!E xfm
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon Xfm.xpm #!E fr: #!E fr
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon Xfm.xpm #!E mc: #!E mc
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon lemacs.xpm #!E emacs:xemacs: #!E emacs:xemacs
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon lemacs.xpm #!E gvim: #!E gvim
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon lemacs.xpm #!E /usr/dt/bin/dtpad: #!E /usr/dt/bin/dtpad
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon Mosaic.xpm #!E hifs: #!E hifs
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.nscape.xpm #!E amaya: #!E amaya
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.nscape.xpm #!E mozilla: #!E mozilla
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in   Icon Mosaic.xpm #!E lynx: #!E lynx
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon Mail2.xpm  #!E xmh: #!E xmh
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon Mail2.xpm  #!E mail: #!E mail
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon Mail2.xpm #!E pine: #!E pine
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon Mail2.xpm #!E mutt: #!E mutt
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in   Icon Mosaic.xpm #!E ncftp: #!E ncftp
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon page.xpm #!E xchat: #!E xchat
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.doc1.xpm #!E irc: #!E irc
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.doc1.xpm #!E tkirc: #!E tkirc
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.doc1.xpm #!E licq: #!E licq
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.zircon.xpm #! zircon: #! zircon
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.gopher.xpm #!E xgopher: #!E xgopher
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.xv.xpm #!E xv: #!E xv
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon gimp.xpm #!E gimp: #!E gimp
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in  Icon gimp.xpm #!E gimp: #!E gimp
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.xfig.xpm #!E xfig: #!E xfig
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.ray.xpm #!E xfpovary: #!E xfpovary
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.directory.xpm #!E xbmbrowser: #!E xbmbrowser
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.palette.xpm #!E ee: #!E ee
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.sound.xpm #!E xltwavplay: #!E xltwavplay
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.audiovol.xpm #!E mxv: #!E mxv
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.audiovol.xpm #!E freeamp: #!E freeamp
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.display.xpm #!E xanim: #!E xanim
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.slon.xpm #!E xboard: #!E xboard
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.go.xpm #!E xgammon: #!E xgammon
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.go.xpm #!E xsokoban: #!E xsokoban
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.xlander.xpm #!E xlander: #!E xlander
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.xmahjongg.xpm #!E xmahjongg: #!E xmahjongg
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.xjewel.xpm #!E xjewel: #!E xjewel
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.hextris.xpm #!E hextris: #!E hextris
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.heart.xpm #!E kpat2: #!E kpat2
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.cat.xpm #!E xcat: #!E xcat
[fvwm][style_parse_and_set_window_style]: <<WARNING>> Unconsumed argument in MiniIcon mini.eye.xpm #!E control-panel: #!E control-panel
Exec echo 'Could not run xlock'
Exec echo 'Could not run xlock'
[fvwm][ChangeMenuStyle]: <<ERROR>> cannot find menu MenuSSaver





From tuxebi at gmx.de  Wed Jan 28 14:37:58 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:37:58 +0100
Subject: fvwm unable to initialize in Kubuntu 8.10...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901280734310.6111@localhost.localdomain>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901280734310.6111@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <glpqk7$ae7$1@ger.gmane.org>

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:

> In Kubuntu 8.10 I did an:
> 
> apt-get install fvwm
> 
> But I'm at a loss as to how to start an fvwm session. 

I am on Kubuntu i386 8.10 and do not have fvwm.

However I am using kde, openbox and xfce4.
While I login via kdm because it's so easy, there is "startkde", 
"startxfce4" and "startopenbox"
available for me as a bash command.
Maybe you got a complimentary "startfvwm", or similar?

regards
Eberhard

>




From derek at pointerstop.ca  Wed Jan 28 17:30:10 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:30:10 -0400
Subject: A KDE equivalent to gnome-open
References: <497FDD3F.8000603@gmail.com> <497FF4D8.9000208@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <2ah656-5oo.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Karl Klinger wrote:

> Michael wrote:
>> "If you want to open up a file or folder using the default application
>> from your terminal in ubuntu
>> (or any linux distrib using gnome), just use gnome-open. Like this:
>> 
>> |gnome-open ~/docs/something.pdf|
>> 
>> Gnome will use it?s file association tables to open it in the correct
>> application, and you won?t have
>> to worry about remembering what your pdf viewer is called."
>> 
>> (Taken from
>> http://www.davidbdean.com/2007/07/06/open-file-with-default-application-
from-terminal-ubuntugnome/)
>> 
>> 
>> Does KDE have anything similar to this?

> 
> xdg-open seems to do what you want.

Cool - that works on a Gnome system, too (and many others) and uses the 
appropriate tool to do the job (it uses "kfmclient exec" in KDE).

You can also use "kfmclient openUrl ..." which opens the file in Konqueror, 
if konqueror is set to open that type of file "embedded".  I presume, but 
haven't checked, that it would open it standalone if the mime-type isn't set 
to be embedded. 





From karlok at fastmail.fm  Wed Jan 28 18:28:20 2009
From: karlok at fastmail.fm (kk)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:28:20 -0800
Subject: fvwm unable to initialize in Kubuntu 8.10...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901280734310.6111@localhost.localdomain>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901280734310.6111@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4980A3C4.6080008@fastmail.fm>

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> Could somebody give me a clue how to start an fvwm session in Kubuntu??? 
> 
Looking at the startx man page, I would guess that "startx fvwm" should 
work.

Karl





From jonorland at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 18:54:52 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:54:52 +0100
Subject: fvwm unable to initialize in Kubuntu 8.10...
In-Reply-To: <4980A3C4.6080008@fastmail.fm>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901280734310.6111@localhost.localdomain>
	<4980A3C4.6080008@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901281054m63f6f5e1rcc1b7e4d21272e9c@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/28 kk <karlok at fastmail.fm>:
> Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
>> Could somebody give me a clue how to start an fvwm session in Kubuntu???
>>
> Looking at the startx man page, I would guess that "startx fvwm" should
> work.
>
> Karl
>

startx and xinit uses your ~/.xinitrc to start whatever programs you
want to start with Xorg. I have this to start fluxbox, you can put
whatever programs you want to start there, remember that all but the
last need to run in the background.
~$ cat .xinitrc
fbdesk &
xterm  -g 80x40+40+40 &
startfluxbox
# End of file

I have made a special layout in xorg.conf that i use when I want to
play games. I'm can run this layout with this command "startx -- :1
-layout GameLayout &" from konsole in my KDE session and it will start
a new xsession on the next virtual console using whatever i have in
~/.xinitrc and in my case the Fluxbox Window Manager and xterm.

I don't run FVWM so I cant help what command to run it with but
looking in aptitude it looks like fvwm-crystal is what you want:
"FVWM-crystal creates an easy to use desktop environment using fvwm2
as its window manager and main core". Installing it you should be able
to select it in KDM when logging in.

/ Jonas



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Wed Jan 28 18:42:25 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:42:25 -0600
Subject: Intrepid with KDE 4.2
Message-ID: <4980A711.5010202@swbell.net>

On 01/27/2009 Art Alexion wrote:
>  Well, I take back my original statement anyway.  Everything in 4.2 works
>  better and is more stable than 4.1... except the stuff I use the most...
>  quick launch which seems unconfigurable[1], and kmail which constantly
>  crashes.
>
>  [1] yeah, you can write your own .desktop files, but unlike older 
versions,
>  you can't configure auto-additon by popularity or drag and drop icons.

While I sat here last night playing on the computer I found that 4.2 was 
in the "ppa" repository for 8.10. Took me a while to find the correct 
place but did get there eventually. Just about midnight I was rebooting 
into KDE 4.2.

HIP hip hooray. The task bar [ whatever it's called ] is able to hide 
again. That's one of my favorite things. I don't like _ANYTHING_ on my 
desktop unlike my better half that has so much stuff you can't see the 
wallpaper.

Plus one point.

Quick Launce was there but as noted by Art above still isn't very 
usable. Maybe someday they will get it right.

Minus one point.

Somehow in the update Kpatience was broken. Maybe there will be an 
update to fix that soon.

Minus one point.

Perhaps with no solitaire I will get off my B____ and do some of the 
other things that I should be doing instead.

Plus one point according to my better half.

SO, I guess it's pretty much a zero sum update so far.

I also want to publicly thank Jonas Norlander for sending his compiled 
Quick Launch applet. It arrived this morning and the update was already 
done.



From dhazin at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 19:07:38 2009
From: dhazin at gmail.com (Dmitry Hazin)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:07:38 +0600
Subject: kde 4.2 crashes on login, Ubuntu 8.10
Message-ID: <b8f0a5130901281107x76d54d66mf1159bbaed10a66a@mail.gmail.com>

Here is short description of my actions:

0. I have Ubuntu 8.10 with  nvidia 7600GS; problem persists with
177.xx, 180.11 (from launchpad) and 180.25 drivers

1. I used following repository for kde 4.2:
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
multiverse restricted universe

2. Installed kubuntu-desktop, selected kdm as a default display manager

3. Reboot

4. Login to kde fails, there are following lines in syslog:

Jan 29 00:33:05 dhazin kernel: [  464.893443] kded4[9823]: segfault at
0 ip 48be08a5 sp bf8be9d0 error 4 in
libQtGui.so.4.4.3[48a34000+8f5000]
Jan 29 00:33:05 dhazin kernel: [  464.985041] kcminit_startup[9827]:
segfault at 0 ip 48be08a5 sp bfd74f90 error 4 in
libQtGui.so.4.4.3[48a34000+8f5000]
Jan 29 00:33:05 dhazin kernel: [  465.107018] ksmserver[9829]:
segfault at 0 ip 48be08a5 sp bfeb5fd0 error 4 in
libQtGui.so.4.4.3[48a34000+8f5000]



Is this a known bug and can I do anything to workaround it? Should I
post bug report somewhere and if yes what information should I place
there?



From wayward4now at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 19:28:57 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:28:57 -0500
Subject: choppy .mov in kaffeine
In-Reply-To: <200901181321.58034.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901181321.58034.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <1233170938.7466.222.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 13:21 -0500, David McGlone wrote:
> Has anyone experienced playing choppy sound with .mov files  played with 
> kaffeine or dragon player? They play fine in vlc and Mplayer, but I can't 
> stand Mplayer, I want to use Kaffeine. 
> 
> I've googled and tried all kinds of things and I can't figure out why the 
> sound just keeps cutting in and out only on .mov files.
> 
> Any Ideas?
> Thanks,

I was dinking with Xine's setup and it all went to heck. So I went into
the .xine directory, renamed config to config.orig and then cranked up
xine again. It now works just fine. Since Kaffine uses Xine as it's
engine, quite possibly you may have broken something when editing
Kaffine's setup. It's worth a shot. :) Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From wayward4now at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 19:33:42 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:33:42 -0500
Subject: Fixed addresses for 8.04?
In-Reply-To: <200901181724.02969.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200901181724.02969.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1233171222.7466.225.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 17:24 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings;
> 
> I am trying to get a box with 8.04 on it, set up for a fixed network address.
> 
> Since it appears that the normal configuration (ifcfg-eth0 and friends) files 
> have been deprecated and NM is doing it all, so how can I make it use a fixed 
> local address?  Setting the hostname and hosts files up correctly doesn't do 
> it. NM apparently ignores everything but the hostname.

It also has problems with domainname. Set it in NM, restart the network
and type in a terminal window "domainname" and see if it doesn't come up
blank. I finally put "domainname wayward4now.net" in /etc/rc.local to
fix it. :( Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From magick.crow at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 19:48:14 2009
From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:48:14 +0100
Subject: No really I need help!; Java kills sound
Message-ID: <f495db580901281148i7f86e356ua0feb93be2e53e2c@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Knapp <magick.crow at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, when I run anything Java my sounds stops working (Still works
> in Java though) for other programs and xine will not start up. Any
> ideas about how to fix this?
> Thanks all!
> --
> Douglas E Knapp
>
> Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!!
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE
>



-- 
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Amazon Gift Cards; let them choose!!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001078FFE?ie=UTF8&tag=seattlebujinkand&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001078FFE



From wayward4now at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 19:49:23 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:49:23 -0500
Subject: Yahoo wants to know how well their new video syntem works!
In-Reply-To: <f495db580901201628x6c1efc11wc389a1b13064793b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f495db580901201628x6c1efc11wc389a1b13064793b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1233172163.7466.227.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 01:28 +0100, Knapp wrote:
> javascript:void(window.open%
> 20('http://videocast.yahoo.com/test/player.html',%20'playerWindow',%
> 20config='height=750,%20width=870,%20toolbar=no,%20menubar=no,%
> 20scrollbars=no,%20resizable=yes,%20location=no,%20directories=no,%
> 20status=no'));

I couldn't get that link to work at all... could you re-send it? Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From wayward4now at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 19:51:20 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:51:20 -0500
Subject: Lost icon for desktops
In-Reply-To: <49777494.1090909@gmail.com>
References: <200901211452.44746.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<200901211037.37596.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<49774501.5020306@gmail.com>
	<200901211125.36959.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<js5k46-nfb.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <49777494.1090909@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1233172281.7466.229.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 12:16 -0700, D. R. Evans wrote:

>   Doc

Has anyone told you that you look like Hunter Thompson?? :) Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Wed Jan 28 20:13:23 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:13:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: kde 4.2 crashes on login, Ubuntu 8.10
In-Reply-To: <b8f0a5130901281107x76d54d66mf1159bbaed10a66a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1912990028.1373041233173603225.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Assuming it's not a nvidia driver thing, have you renamed ~/.kde and let 4.2 build a new one for you. I've seen this happen in prior version upgrades, presumably due to incompatible config settings in the older directory. 
Paul 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dmitry Hazin" <dhazin at gmail.com> 
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:07:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: kde 4.2 crashes on login, Ubuntu 8.10 

Here is short description of my actions: 

0. I have Ubuntu 8.10 with nvidia 7600GS; problem persists with 
177.xx, 180.11 (from launchpad) and 180.25 drivers 

1. I used following repository for kde 4.2: 
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main 
multiverse restricted universe 

2. Installed kubuntu-desktop, selected kdm as a default display manager 

3. Reboot 

4. Login to kde fails, there are following lines in syslog: 

Jan 29 00:33:05 dhazin kernel: [ 464.893443] kded4[9823]: segfault at 
0 ip 48be08a5 sp bf8be9d0 error 4 in 
libQtGui.so.4.4.3[48a34000+8f5000] 
Jan 29 00:33:05 dhazin kernel: [ 464.985041] kcminit_startup[9827]: 
segfault at 0 ip 48be08a5 sp bfd74f90 error 4 in 
libQtGui.so.4.4.3[48a34000+8f5000] 
Jan 29 00:33:05 dhazin kernel: [ 465.107018] ksmserver[9829]: 
segfault at 0 ip 48be08a5 sp bfeb5fd0 error 4 in 
libQtGui.so.4.4.3[48a34000+8f5000] 



Is this a known bug and can I do anything to workaround it? Should I 
post bug report somewhere and if yes what information should I place 
there? 

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From doc.evans at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 20:24:34 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:24:34 -0700
Subject: Intrepid with KDE 4.2
In-Reply-To: <4980A711.5010202@swbell.net>
References: <4980A711.5010202@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <4980BF02.8040606@gmail.com>

Billie Erin Walsh said the following at 01/28/2009 11:42 AM :

> 
> Quick Launce was there but as noted by Art above still isn't very 
> usable. Maybe someday they will get it right.
> 
> Minus one point.
> 
> Somehow in the update Kpatience was broken. Maybe there will be an 
> update to fix that soon.
> 
> Minus one point.
> 

Please file bug reports against things that are broken, and wishlist items
against behaviour that you'd like to change.

https://bugs.kde.org

Mostly, they'll listen. Every now and then you get something -- the broken
ordering of files in Konqueror comes to mind -- that they won't change, or
even engage in rational debate. But mostly it can only be good for the
developers to hear from users. They do seem to live rather in their own
world :-)

  Doc

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From wayward4now at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 22:09:17 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:09:17 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901221604.31240.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220914.04407.d.mcglone@att.net> <49789287.4080303@yahoo.com>
	<200901221604.31240.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1233180558.7466.254.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 16:04 -0500, Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Thursday 22 January 2009 10:36:39 am John Hubbard wrote:
> > chmod a+x ~/Des
> 
> steven at Studio25:~$ ls -l /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 steven steven 20106959 2009-01-21 
> 12:37 /home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
> steven at Studio25:~$ chmod a+x ~/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586
> chmod: cannot access `/home/steven/Desktop/jre-6u11-linux-i586': No such file 
> or directory
> steven at Studio25:~$
> 
> I believe I did as you suggest.
> 
> Steven
> 
Steven, what you are attempting is gonna open up a can of worms. For you
and the list. First, you are running a nice system that is built up
using (k)ubuntu packages. You have the choice of several package
managers that will install files for you (including java) completely
automagically. This system puts the working parts of these packages into
the correct scheme of things. Now, you are about to introduce a "wild
card". A self extracting program that will put parts of itself wherever
it wants to. And, sometimes that is -not good at all- , especially for
the newbie. Nosiree. Then, if it breaks or deviates from the Ubuntu way,
you're hosed and this list will be so full of requests by you, many a
heart will be broken. 

So, gently and non-destructively do this instead.
In a terminal window just type: java  -version

See what you already have on your machine. Then, when you talk to the
techie ask him what version he requires. He will tell you. But, you'll
know for sure that you already have java running and have not wrecked
your installation. 

Now, the crust of the biscuit. In order to be doing whatever requires
you to be using Java, does it require you to also be using a browser,
like Firefox and that you need Java for that?? A whole 'nother topic,
"How to install Java into Firefox". There are a zillion links if you
just google just using `ubuntu firefox java` in your search. 

If not, and you need an upgrade, that bin file will walk all over what
you already have nicely and safely installed for you. Me, I use the bin
files if I must absolutely do so, as a lot of my work is in java, but
check out my linuxcounter user# ...I've done this a bunch before and
have had my share of troubles doing so. What you are about to do is not
safe AT ALL for a newbie. 

Avoid at all costs until you get some sort of basic education in Linux,
which is on you to do. If you haven't seen tab completion on the command
line, I highly suggest joining a local LUG (Linux User Group) and if
there isn't one, start one. You really really really need someone
sitting right at your side showing you this stuff. Then it's a breeze,
once you've seen it. I've set up three computer user groups over the
past 25 years. You don't have to be the Guru, just the instigator.
<grins>  But I'm not thinking you get the complete picture of what that
tech is asking of you, so we don't get it either. Just fire up the
package manager of your choice and search on java. See if the version
you have installed isn't waiting to be merely upgraded. That would save
you SO much hurt in the long run. 

Sincerely, Ric


-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From wayward4now at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 22:16:28 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:16:28 -0500
Subject: html mail (was: Re: How do I install a .bin...]
In-Reply-To: <200901240841.03021.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<glbutu$i6l$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<200901232203.19851.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901240841.03021.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <1233180988.7466.260.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 08:41 +0100, Nils Kassube wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> > When I 
> > changed the color of the font, it was to draw attention to that part of
> > the data. Does that automatically change an email to HTML?
> 
> Yes, using anything that requires markup (e.g. colours, font size) will 
> switch to HTML mode.

Whatever happened to good ole ASCII text?? We had colors back then,
flashing, bold, underlined doing BBS email a hundred years ago. :) Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From wayward4now at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 22:23:54 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:23:54 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <4978E4D7.1080205@gatech.edu>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211719.33756.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4977B2A8.2070101@yahoo.com>
	<200901221617.36457.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4978E4D7.1080205@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <1233181435.7466.263.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 16:27 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> > steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$ >wine ~/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe
> > bash: /home/steven/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe: Permission denied
> 
> You have a typo.  Remove the > to get:
> 
> wine ~/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe
> 
> However, wine may not fully support the program.

No one has asked if the program .exe file will run at all within the
wine install he has. If the program was created for Windows Vista,
probably not. Ric
-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From wayward4now at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 22:29:11 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:29:11 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <200901221652.28113.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<3dde113c0901211601v383c8064h4515245a97502a52@mail.gmail.com>
	<4977E01E.5080406@swbell.net>
	<200901221652.28113.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1233181752.7466.267.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 16:52 -0500, Steven Vollom wrote:

> I am also aware of that, however, it tried to install when I knew from another 
> attempt indicated missing files, that the missing files are the probable 
> reason.  The package is not a necessary thing, and I don't even gamble.  I 
> just got interested in the play when I saw a TV program about it.  I am 
> always alone and thought it might be a way to spend a little time.

There's already a ton of poker games, card games, board games ready to
be installed easily using your package manager. adept or synaptic works
nicely. Just click on what you want, it'll happen all by itself. Use
"games" in the search bar, then read the descriptions. (without the
quotes) Piece O' cake. :) Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From wayward4now at gmail.com  Wed Jan 28 22:56:05 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:56:05 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick -- Yes! Get the path right.
In-Reply-To: <200901221403.36739.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901220907.09783.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221731.54022.donn.ingle@gmail.com>
	<200901221403.36739.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1233183371.7466.288.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 14:03 -0500, Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Thursday 22 January 2009 10:31:53 am Donn wrote:
> 
> > Steven, I spent a lot of time doing those diagrams for you. Lots of other
> > people are also repeating themselves often. Please *take care* to type
> > carefully, follow the few simple rules (like knowing where you are) and you
> > should be 90% of the way to Linux bliss.
> I am sorry.  I have so much that I am not sure of yet while working, I don't 
> always check back to those pages.  It takes a while for me to remember things 
> anymore.  In fact just remembering the things you sent is not a front lobe 
> event yet.  I am getting better, though.  In a very short time, you can get a 
> wall full of postits when you have my memory problem.  So each time you 
> finish doing something, you have to read the entire wall and make a dicision 
> what is most important to do next.  Pretty soon you are just reading the wall 
> with no time to accomplish anything.  I am finding that the things I 
> concentrate on over and over become anchored memory after a while.  So I just 
> keep repeating the process until something holds.  If I offend you or make 
> you think I haven't taken your hard work serious, it is not true.  I fear 
> alsheimers anymore because the effort to hold a memory seems to be getting 
> more difficult all the time.  But I am not giving up.  If you can forgive me, 
> I promise to be as careful in referring back as properly as I am able.  
> Thanks again for the wonderful help.  If you can avoid it don't age; it is 
> not all it is cracked up to be, excepting the alternative.  Believe it or 
> not, I am making great progress right now.

It might be better and far less frustrating to use the things that you
can use. Wine has been a noble effort for years and years, There is
still much it -cannot- do. You, being new, do not know that. Me, if I
tried to use wine on some Windows .exe file and it didn't work the first
time, I'd give up and delete it. People cheered madly when it opened the
Windows clock.exe and displayed the time. Best to just forget it.
There's probably some scam involved in that poker thing anyway where the
first taste is for free. If it makes your head hurt, delete it. 

Look for all the opportunities to install tested and working software
that has been pre-packaged by a bunch of dedicated hardworking people.
Because of them, there's games out the whazoo available to you, that are
better than the ones usually installed to Windows and you need only
mouse click to get at 'em. Go with the force Luke. Linux ain't and never
will be Windows or a Mac. 

So, just go with the doable, until you get someone to help you learn
Linux by your side. It's really the only way in your situation. I had
scores of people help me. In return I have done likewise, paying my debt
forward to the next guy. Plus, you make new friends like that. People
you never knew existed who might be living in your own block. 

Back in the early 70's we met in homes and when the crowd got too large,
public libraries. Our group grew to 150 members strong in a couple of
years. What a riot! That was back in the Apple][ days in Texas next to
the NASA Johnston Space Center. Plus, socializing is a great way to keep
the brain elastic, if you're concerned about the onset of memory loss.
I'm hitting 60 and, without socializing, I could see how it would affect
my own mind which I want to hang onto! Peace, Ric
 
-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Wed Jan 28 23:27:56 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:27:56 -0500
Subject: Fixed addresses for 8.04?
In-Reply-To: <1233171222.7466.225.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <200901181724.02969.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<1233171222.7466.225.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <200901281827.56972.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Wednesday 28 January 2009, Ric Moore wrote:
>On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 17:24 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Greetings;
>>
>> I am trying to get a box with 8.04 on it, set up for a fixed network
>> address.
>>
>> Since it appears that the normal configuration (ifcfg-eth0 and friends)
>> files have been deprecated and NM is doing it all, so how can I make it
>> use a fixed local address?  Setting the hostname and hosts files up
>> correctly doesn't do it. NM apparently ignores everything but the
>> hostname.
>
>It also has problems with domainname. Set it in NM, restart the network
>and type in a terminal window "domainname" and see if it doesn't come up
>blank. I finally put "domainname wayward4now.net" in /etc/rc.local to
>fix it. :( Ric
>
You can also set it up in /etc/networks, so this one has been put to bed.  
Thanks Ric.
>--
>
>My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
>"There are two Great Sins in the world...
>..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
>Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
>Linux user# 44256
>https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
>Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987



-- 
Cheers, Gene
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Q: What's another name for the "Intel Inside" sticker they put on Pentiums? 
A: Warning label. 



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Wed Jan 28 23:32:34 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:32:34 -0600
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <1233181435.7466.263.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<200901211719.33756.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4977B2A8.2070101@yahoo.com>	<200901221617.36457.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>	<4978E4D7.1080205@gatech.edu>
	<1233181435.7466.263.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <4980EB12.3040206@swbell.net>

Ric Moore wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 16:27 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>   
>> Steven Vollom wrote:
>>     
>>> steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$ >wine ~/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe
>>> bash: /home/steven/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe: Permission denied
>>>       
>> You have a typo.  Remove the > to get:
>>
>> wine ~/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe
>>
>> However, wine may not fully support the program.
>>     
>
> No one has asked if the program .exe file will run at all within the
> wine install he has. If the program was created for Windows Vista,
> probably not. Ric
>   
I've mentioned a couple times that not _everything_ from the windows 
world will run in WINE. A lot of stuff will and that's cool. Some stuff 
only partially works with WINE. Those are probably the most frustrating 
because it _ALMOST_ works.

I'm with Ric. If I install and it won't work I just move on. If it's a 
mission critical something I keep a windows machine running. [ 99% of 
the time it just sits in the corner running BOINC/SETI to keep it busy ]

For _almost_ everything you want to do there _IS_ a Linux counterpart. 
Want to play poker online there is a Texas Hold'em  available through 
the repos. I can't remember the name right off [ kpokerth or something ] 
but it should show up if you put "poker" in the synaptic search box. You 
can play either online or not. I think the computer cheats if your not 
online playing against real people. *<]:oD

Pretty much the only "mission critical" piece of software I use that 
won't run in WINE is Microsoft Streets and Trips and I haven't found a 
descent Linux replacement for. I'm sure others may have others.



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Thu Jan 29 00:09:12 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:09:12 -0600
Subject: Grousing - feel free to ignore
In-Reply-To: <200901271438.45610.art.alexion@gmail.com>
References: <497D560E.3080009@swbell.net>	<5a1f6bd00901261352w1110d5c9u6a401e20e7c2767f@mail.gmail.com>	<497E3784.6060409@swbell.net>
	<200901271438.45610.art.alexion@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4980F3A8.6060305@swbell.net>

On 01/27/2009 Art Alexion wrote:
>
>  Well, I take back my original statement anyway.  Everything in 4.2 works
>  better and is more stable than 4.1... except the stuff I use the most...
>  quick launch which seems unconfigurable[1], and kmail which constantly
>  crashes.
>
>  [1] yeah, you can write your own .desktop files, but unlike older 
versions,
>  you can't configure auto-additon by popularity or drag and drop icons.
>
>
>
>

I got an answer, at least partially, to how to add applications to the 
Quick Start thingy.

Right click . Add Icon> Browse . /usr/share/applications select the 
application you want and click back out. Not very intuitive but effective.



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 29 00:10:25 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:10:25 -0600
Subject: A KDE equivalent to gnome-open
In-Reply-To: <497FDD3F.8000603@gmail.com>
References: <497FDD3F.8000603@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901281810.26259.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Tuesday 27 January 2009 10:21:19 pm Michael wrote:
> "If you want to open up a file or folder using the default application
> from your terminal in ubuntu
>
> (or any linux distrib using gnome), just use gnome-open. Like this:
> |gnome-open ~/docs/something.pdf|
>
> Gnome will use it’s file association tables to open it in the correct
> application, and you won’t have
> to worry about remembering what your pdf viewer is called."
>
> (Taken from
> http://www.davidbdean.com/2007/07/06/open-file-with-default-application-fro
>m-terminal-ubuntugnome/)
>
>
> Does KDE have anything similar to this?
>
> Mike

First, I had never even considered there might be something like this.  I 
first considered kstart, which is a cool little program, but it doesn't do 
what you say.  So I looked at the KDE4 runtime package executables and 
found... (prepare to be shocked)... kde-open.  KDE3 has the same thing.  I 
tried it on a pdf file and it opened in Okular.

That is such a neat little thing and I had never heard of it.  Thank you for 
pointing it out to me.



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 29 00:14:35 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:14:35 -0400
Subject: Intrepid with KDE 4.2
References: <4980A711.5010202@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <b09756-9q1.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Billie Erin Walsh wrote:

> HIP hip hooray. The task bar [ whatever it's called ] is able to hide
> again. That's one of my favorite things. I don't like _ANYTHING_ on my
> desktop unlike my better half that has so much stuff you can't see the
> wallpaper.

LOL.  That's one of those "there are two kinds of people..." dividers.  I'm 
always appalled at what other people (including my _much_ better half) put 
on the desktop.  With KDE 4.1, I lost most of what I had, and don't miss 
that either :-)

> Somehow in the update Kpatience was broken. Maybe there will be an
> update to fix that soon.
> 
> Minus one point.
> 
> Perhaps with no solitaire I will get off my B____ and do some of the
> other things that I should be doing instead.

More laughter :-)  I was spending way too much time playing KSudoku, until 
somebody mentioned sources for e-books, and now I just read :-)  It really 
is an improvement, as I would tend to start doing Sudokus while the system 
was busy doing other things - but then you can't stop until you finish the 
game.  You can always put a book aside (and e-books never lose the page!)
> 
> Plus one point according to my better half.
> 
> SO, I guess it's pretty much a zero sum update so far.

I think I'll wait...  but thanks for the updates






From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 29 00:37:02 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:37:02 -0600
Subject: No really I need help!; Java kills sound
In-Reply-To: <f495db580901281148i7f86e356ua0feb93be2e53e2c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f495db580901281148i7f86e356ua0feb93be2e53e2c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901281837.02931.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Wednesday 28 January 2009 1:48:14 pm Knapp wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Knapp <magick.crow at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello, when I run anything Java my sounds stops working (Still works
> > in Java though) for other programs and xine will not start up. Any
> > ideas about how to fix this?
> > Thanks all!
> > --
> > Douglas E Knapp

Do you have dmix enabled in alsa?  You see, but for some Creative sound cards 
that have hardware mixers, alsa (the Linux sound architecture) doesn't by 
default mix audio - basically meaning that sounds from different programs not 
using a software mixer (like aRts provides for KDE3) cannot play at once.  
There is a software mixer for alsa called dmix and it works great in my 
experience (though my current computer has a SoundBlaster with a hardware 
mixer), but it's usually not enabled by default.  Sadly, there's no way that I 
know of to change that with a GUI, so if you haven't enabled it on your 
machine, you'll have to copy or edit a config file.  If I recall correctly, 
doing this on Kubuntu was rather simple, because they have a sample alsa 
config file somewhere in the alsa package (somewhere among the docs for some 
reason) that you can copy to /etc.  I think the name of the file is 
alsa.conf.example and you need to rename it to alsa.conf when you copy it with 
sudo.  That file worked for me without editing, so I hope it does for you, 
too.

I hope I hit the mark here and am not barking up the wrong tree.



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 29 00:43:35 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:43:35 -0400
Subject: A KDE equivalent to gnome-open
References: <497FDD3F.8000603@gmail.com>
	<200901281810.26259.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <nma756-5h2.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Constantinos Maltezos wrote:

> On Tuesday 27 January 2009 10:21:19 pm Michael wrote:
>> "If you want to open up a file or folder using the default application
>> from your terminal in ubuntu
>>
>> (or any linux distrib using gnome), just use gnome-open. Like this:
>> |gnome-open ~/docs/something.pdf|

>> Does KDE have anything similar to this?
> 
> First, I had never even considered there might be something like this.  I
> first considered kstart, which is a cool little program, but it doesn't do
> what you say.  So I looked at the KDE4 runtime package executables and
> found... (prepare to be shocked)... kde-open.  KDE3 has the same thing.  I
> tried it on a pdf file and it opened in Okular.
> 
> That is such a neat little thing and I had never heard of it.  Thank you
> for pointing it out to me.

I wonder _why_ we have kde-open, since kfmclient has always done this...





From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 29 00:56:15 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:56:15 -0600
Subject: fvwm unable to initialize in Kubuntu 8.10...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901280734310.6111@localhost.localdomain>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901280734310.6111@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <200901281856.16081.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Wednesday 28 January 2009 8:05:26 am Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> In Kubuntu 8.10 I did an:
>
> apt-get install fvwm
>
> But I'm at a loss as to how to start an fvwm session.
>
> I don't know if it's significant but I boot to runlevel 3 without kdm...

"startx fvwm" is the way.  But... more below.

>   And return to using startx... (but that's a separate issue that I'll
>   never care about unless I somehow NEED kdm running to boot fvwm...)

No, you don't.

> But as it is I poked around the output of man fvwm and it seemed to
> suggest the default place for a system configuration file would be:
> /usr/local/share/fvwm
> Which directory didn't exist. Though there was a directory with a
> sample config file in:
> /usr/share/fvwm

That's okay.  That just means that the default way the fvwm developers build 
fvwm uses /usr/local while Kubuntu uses /usr.  Don't worry about it.

> # The suggested way to install this configuration file is to (re)move
> # any .fvwm2rc file you have in ~/.fvwm or ~ and run fvwm without any
> # startup file.
> #
> # Then, run the "Setup 95 Script" from the root menu.
>
> What I got from that was that it should be possible to boot a basic
> default fvwm session without having configured a startup file.

That is correct.

> However, when I try to run fvwm from a console command-line, it's unable
> to "open display" And when I learned from "fvwm -h" that there was an
> option  [-r] to "replace running window manager" I tried running
> startx then attempted that from inside a kde konsole: And got 86 lines
> of error messages and warnings and a messed up kde session...
> {
>   It was still running kde, but <ctrl>+<tab> no longer switched between
>   the 4 configured desktops, <alt>+<tab> popped up a list of the open
>   windows from all 4 desktops, And if I selected an open window from
>   another desktop it would change to that desktop...
> }
> It occurs to me that Intrepid uses kde4 and for some reason it
> doesn't appear to keep it's configuration settings in:
>
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>
> I know this because that file contains zero bytes.

This is the whole deal.  I was unaware that KDE4 did not need to use 
xorg.conf.  That's kind of neat, but I don't like the idea that xorg.conf has 
been left useless by the install.  But maybe the Kubuntu people smarter than 
me.  Still, to run anything but KDE4, you're going to have to set up X in its 
usual way.  To be honest, other than making it by hand, I have no clue how 
you'd go about this.  There's probably a GUI way and I hope someone else on 
the list can clue you (and me) in to it.



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 29 01:09:06 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:09:06 -0600
Subject: A KDE equivalent to gnome-open
In-Reply-To: <nma756-5h2.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <497FDD3F.8000603@gmail.com>
	<200901281810.26259.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<nma756-5h2.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <200901281909.07164.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Wednesday 28 January 2009 6:43:35 pm Derek Broughton wrote:
> I wonder _why_ we have kde-open, since kfmclient has always done this...

Less to type?  "Gnome has it and I want it"?  Easier to explain?



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 29 01:28:21 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:28:21 -0400
Subject: A KDE equivalent to gnome-open
References: <497FDD3F.8000603@gmail.com>
	<200901281810.26259.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<nma756-5h2.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901281909.07164.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <lad756-dm3.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Constantinos Maltezos wrote:

> On Wednesday 28 January 2009 6:43:35 pm Derek Broughton wrote:
>> I wonder _why_ we have kde-open, since kfmclient has always done this...
> 
> Less to type?  "Gnome has it and I want it"?  Easier to explain? 

And for that, there's xdg-open - which works in Gnome, KDE (using kfmclient, 
not kde-open). and just about everything else.  I see "xdg-...." and I think 
- "shiny!" :-)






From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 29 02:08:04 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:08:04 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <1233180558.7466.254.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221604.31240.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<1233180558.7466.254.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <200901282108.05236.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> So, gently and non-destructively do this instead.
> In a terminal window just type: java  -version

steven at Studio25:~$ java -version
java version "1.5.0"
gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.2.4 (Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu3)

Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
steven at Studio25:~$


> Now, the crust of the biscuit. In order to be doing whatever requires
> you to be using Java, does it require you to also be using a browser,
> like Firefox and that you need Java for that?? 

I haven't noticed and don't remember.

> "How to install Java into Firefox". There are a zillion links if you
> just google just using `ubuntu firefox java` in your search.

As you can see, I have Java installed.  I usually use Konqueror anymore 
though.  I am trying to get dependent on using all Kubuntu and KDE packages.

> If not, and you need an upgrade, that bin file will walk all over what
> you already have nicely and safely installed for you. Me, I use the bin
> files if I must absolutely do so, as a lot of my work is in java, but
> check out my linuxcounter user# ...I've done this a bunch before and
> have had my share of troubles doing so. What you are about to do is not
> safe AT ALL for a newbie.

I did not realize the danger.  I just have difficulty downloading and 
installing .bins that are offered on the web, as opposed to .bins that are 
included in the package manager.  Once in a while there is a package offered 
that is highly recommended by a poster, that has to be downloaded and 
installed.  When it does not install using what kubuntu has provided, I still 
want to use the package if it can safely be installed.  Nonetheless it is 
never that crucial.  I can easily live without all the bells and whistles.

As you probably know, I am totally alone in my life and unable to change that 
circumstance, so when I see something like the ability to play, competing 
with others over the net, an interesting thing like Full Tilt Poker, it would 
be entertaining to be able to do that.  And since it is free, I risk nothing 
in the process.  I have lived almost 66 years without it, so I won't suffer 
not being able to play.  I do know someone who plays it free all the time. 
That is what he likes to talk about when we communicate.

You guys have always been so kind to me, I will take your advice on this 
matter and let it go.  Thanks my friend.  No need to open a kettle of worms 
for others.

> Avoid at all costs until you get some sort of basic education in Linux,
> which is on you to do. If you haven't seen tab completion on the command
> line, I highly suggest joining a local LUG (Linux User Group) and if
> there isn't one, start one. 

I have tried that.  There are more than one here in Dayton, but I no longer 
have transportation or the finances to go the distance required.  I think I 
would like that more than about anything.  I crave the thought.

My home/art studio is too filled with equipment and stuff to be able to hold a 
group meeting here, so I don't know how I could instigate one.  I am 
basically an old shut-in.  I get out to shop once a month, but that is an 
inconvenience to the one who helps me, so I don't use that benefit for other 
than life threatening or essential needs like getting food and medicine.

You are not aware of the progress I am making recently; I am having a lot of 
fun.  I hope to do everything I can do using a shell within the next year.  I 
really think at that point it will be easier to learn.  

The thought of having someone sitting along side who is able to talk about a 
problem while it is happening sounds just delicious, though.  Oh well, I can 
not complain, I still love my life with all its problems, and I especially 
love all of you who have been so kind this past several months.

Cordially and as always thanks,

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 29 02:12:18 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:12:18 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <1233181435.7466.263.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4978E4D7.1080205@gatech.edu>
	<1233181435.7466.263.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <200901282112.19158.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 28 January 2009 5:23:54 pm Ric Moore wrote:
> wine ~/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe

Apparently a Synthesizer is not supported.  Do I just stop trying then?

steven at Studio25:~$ wine ~/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe
fixme:midi:OSS_MidiInit Synthesizer supports MIDI in. Not yet supported.
steven at Studio25:~$

Thanks friend,

Steven




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 29 02:13:34 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:13:34 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <1233181752.7466.267.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221652.28113.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<1233181752.7466.267.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <200901282113.34915.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Wednesday 28 January 2009 5:29:11 pm Ric Moore wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 16:52 -0500, Steven Vollom wrote:
> > I am also aware of that, however, it tried to install when I knew from
> > another attempt indicated missing files, that the missing files are the
> > probable reason.  The package is not a necessary thing, and I don't even
> > gamble.  I just got interested in the play when I saw a TV program about
> > it.  I am always alone and thought it might be a way to spend a little
> > time.
>
> There's already a ton of poker games, card games, board games ready to
> be installed easily using your package manager. adept or synaptic works
> nicely. Just click on what you want, it'll happen all by itself. Use
> "games" in the search bar, then read the descriptions. (without the
> quotes) Piece O' cake. :) Ric
Thanks, I will

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 29 02:17:29 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:17:29 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <4980EB12.3040206@swbell.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<1233181435.7466.263.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
	<4980EB12.3040206@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <200901282117.29363.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Want to play poker online there is a Texas Hold'em  available through
> the repos. I can't remember the name right off [ kpokerth or something ]
> but it should show up if you put "poker" in the synaptic search box. You
> can play either online or not. I think the computer cheats if your not
> online playing against real people. *<]:oD

I am going to try your advice, even though I am prepared to move on.  Thanks!

Steven



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 29 02:32:41 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:32:41 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick -- Yes! Get the path right.
In-Reply-To: <1233183371.7466.288.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221403.36739.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<1233183371.7466.288.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <200901282132.41880.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

Dear Ric,

Before I read this email, I pretty much decided to take the suggestions 
included in this email to heart.  Not knowing what things cause problems, I 
simply stick my head down and trudge forward.  Nonetheless, everyone on the 
list proves that they have my best interest at heart, so I will take the 
advice and let the things that are potentially a kettle of worms go.  I wish 
you could be that computer friend that you refer to.

Unfortunately, I live in a neighborhood where everyone I have talked with has 
no interest in computers.  I think it is just that they don't think they 
could handle the intellectual aspect of it, but no one has yet shown enough 
interest for me to even help them get a free computer so they could try.

Cordially,

Steven





From amila.uoc at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 03:16:07 2009
From: amila.uoc at gmail.com (Amila Liyanaarachchi)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:46:07 +0530
Subject: Upgrade KDE to 4.2
Message-ID: <266ff2be0901281916k5f9e072fx9b3d2cdac981a672@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm a Kubuntu beginner, and curious to have KDE 4.2.
I tried the following to get it updated, but end up with the below
error. Can someone tell me what has went wrong here?

Added the line "deb
http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" to
third party software list in apt.
gave the command "sudo apt-get install kde-nightly" which I found from
some site.

then I end up with the below error message,
--------------------------------------------------------------
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 kde-nightly: Depends: kde-nightly-kdebase but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages
-----------------------------------------------------

Regards,
Amila



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Thu Jan 29 03:42:36 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:42:36 -0600
Subject: Upgrade KDE to 4.2
In-Reply-To: <266ff2be0901281916k5f9e072fx9b3d2cdac981a672@mail.gmail.com>
References: <266ff2be0901281916k5f9e072fx9b3d2cdac981a672@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <498125AC.6090502@swbell.net>

Amila Liyanaarachchi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a Kubuntu beginner, and curious to have KDE 4.2.
> I tried the following to get it updated, but end up with the below
> error. Can someone tell me what has went wrong here?
>
> Added the line "deb
> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" to
> third party software list in apt.
> gave the command "sudo apt-get install kde-nightly" which I found from
> some site.
>
> then I end up with the below error message,
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
>
> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
> that package should be filed.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  kde-nightly: Depends: kde-nightly-kdebase but it is not going to be installed
> E: Broken packages
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> Regards,
> Amila
>
>   

Did you put in the key?

When I did this last night in Software Services and then added the key 
Software Services refreshed and an icon popped up in my system tray 
telling me I had updates. Adept Update Manager did everything after that.



From eqisow at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 03:47:53 2009
From: eqisow at gmail.com (Justin)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:47:53 -0500
Subject: Upgrade KDE to 4.2
In-Reply-To: <498125AC.6090502@swbell.net>
References: <266ff2be0901281916k5f9e072fx9b3d2cdac981a672@mail.gmail.com>
	<498125AC.6090502@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <b6c687af0901281947v45457334h9e44c14933cf0ac7@mail.gmail.com>

Don't use the nightly builds. Also, never issue commands from "some site" if
you don't trust the site or understand what they do.

Check the directions here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2

Make sure you remove the experimental repository you added.

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh at swbell.net>wrote:

> Amila Liyanaarachchi wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm a Kubuntu beginner, and curious to have KDE 4.2.
> > I tried the following to get it updated, but end up with the below
> > error. Can someone tell me what has went wrong here?
> >
> > Added the line "deb
> > http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" to
> > third party software list in apt.
> > gave the command "sudo apt-get install kde-nightly" which I found from
> > some site.
> >
> > then I end up with the below error message,
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree
> > Reading state information... Done
> > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> > or been moved out of Incoming.
> >
> > Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
> > the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
> > that package should be filed.
> > The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> >
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >  kde-nightly: Depends: kde-nightly-kdebase but it is not going to be
> installed
> > E: Broken packages
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Regards,
> > Amila
> >
> >
>
> Did you put in the key?
>
> When I did this last night in Software Services and then added the key
> Software Services refreshed and an icon popped up in my system tray
> telling me I had updates. Adept Update Manager did everything after that.
>
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From amila.uoc at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 03:47:56 2009
From: amila.uoc at gmail.com (Amila Liyanaarachchi)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:17:56 +0530
Subject: Upgrade KDE to 4.2
In-Reply-To: <498125AC.6090502@swbell.net>
References: <266ff2be0901281916k5f9e072fx9b3d2cdac981a672@mail.gmail.com>
	<498125AC.6090502@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <266ff2be0901281947p4153f177vaeaeccb146516b43@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for your quick reply,
What exactly did you mean by 'key'?

Did you followed the same steps that I did?

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh at swbell.net> wrote:
> Amila Liyanaarachchi wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm a Kubuntu beginner, and curious to have KDE 4.2.
>> I tried the following to get it updated, but end up with the below
>> error. Can someone tell me what has went wrong here?
>>
>> Added the line "deb
>> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" to
>> third party software list in apt.
>> gave the command "sudo apt-get install kde-nightly" which I found from
>> some site.
>>
>> then I end up with the below error message,
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
>> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
>> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
>> or been moved out of Incoming.
>>
>> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
>> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
>> that package should be filed.
>> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>>
>> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>>  kde-nightly: Depends: kde-nightly-kdebase but it is not going to be installed
>> E: Broken packages
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Regards,
>> Amila
>>
>>
>
> Did you put in the key?
>
> When I did this last night in Software Services and then added the key
> Software Services refreshed and an icon popped up in my system tray
> telling me I had updates. Adept Update Manager did everything after that.
>
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Thu Jan 29 03:48:00 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:48:00 -0600
Subject: Upgrade KDE to 4.2
In-Reply-To: <498125AC.6090502@swbell.net>
References: <266ff2be0901281916k5f9e072fx9b3d2cdac981a672@mail.gmail.com>
	<498125AC.6090502@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <498126F0.9050706@swbell.net>

Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> Amila Liyanaarachchi wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm a Kubuntu beginner, and curious to have KDE 4.2.
>> I tried the following to get it updated, but end up with the below
>> error. Can someone tell me what has went wrong here?
>>
>> Added the line "deb
>> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" to
>> third party software list in apt.
>> gave the command "sudo apt-get install kde-nightly" which I found from
>> some site.
>>
>> then I end up with the below error message,
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
>> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
>> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
>> or been moved out of Incoming.
>>
>> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
>> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
>> that package should be filed.
>> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>>
>> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>>  kde-nightly: Depends: kde-nightly-kdebase but it is not going to be installed
>> E: Broken packages
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Regards,
>> Amila
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> Did you put in the key?
>
> When I did this last night in Software Services and then added the key 
> Software Services refreshed and an icon popped up in my system tray 
> telling me I had updates. Adept Update Manager did everything after that.
>
>   
Should have added:

<Quote from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 >

The updated packages for Kubuntu 8.10 are located in the Kubuntu 
Experimental Software Personal Package Archive (PPA) repository. To 
update to KDE 4.2, please follow these instructions:

   1. Remove the koffice-data-kde4 package if you have it installed. The
      current koffice2 packages in the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA are
      incompatible with the KDE 4.2 packages since they try to install
      icons to the same locations.
   2. Follow the Kubuntu Repository Guide
      <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu> to enable
      /Recommended Updates/ and add the following to your 'Third-Party
      Software' tab:
      deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
   3. You can add the package signing key with this command:
      gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 493B3065 && gpg
      --export -a 493B3065 | sudo apt-key add -
   4. Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should
      uninstall any plasmoids.
   5. You can now update any existing KDE 4 installation to the most
      recent version using the Adept Updater tool in your system tray.
   6. Now log out and press Alt + E to restart X. When you log in you
      will have KDE 4.2. Enjoy.


        <unquote>





From claydoh at midmaine.com  Thu Jan 29 03:50:33 2009
From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:50:33 -0500
Subject: Upgrade KDE to 4.2
In-Reply-To: <266ff2be0901281916k5f9e072fx9b3d2cdac981a672@mail.gmail.com>
References: <266ff2be0901281916k5f9e072fx9b3d2cdac981a672@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090128225033.a71c6bd5.claydoh@midmaine.com>

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:46:07 +0530
Amila Liyanaarachchi <amila.uoc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm a Kubuntu beginner, and curious to have KDE 4.2.
> I tried the following to get it updated, but end up with the below
> error. Can someone tell me what has went wrong here?
> 
> Added the line "deb
> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" to
> third party software list in apt.
> gave the command "sudo apt-get install kde-nightly" which I found from
> some site.
> 
> then I end up with the below error message,
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
> 
> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
> that package should be filed.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> 
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  kde-nightly: Depends: kde-nightly-kdebase but it is not going to be installed
> E: Broken packages
> -----------------------------------------------------
> 
> Regards,
> Amila
> 

After adding the repository, all you should have to do is fetch updates, then upgrade to get 4.2

http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 has all the directions

the package "kde-nightly' is a package from a different repository (the Project Neon KDE-nightly builds, which are more bleeding-edge code than KDE4.2) which is why you are getting the error: the package with that name doesn't exist in the repository you added

-- 
Clay Weber <claydoh at midmaine.com>



From jtwdyp at ttlc.net  Thu Jan 29 04:28:29 2009
From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:28:29 -0500
Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc [enabling keyboard layouts] 
In-Reply-To: <200901230037.18577.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
	<200901181842.53513.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<alpine.LNX.1.10.0901222339330.27404@linux-8mzr.site>
	<200901230037.18577.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0901282318350.7376@theInTrepidation.hsd1.nh.comcast.net.>


It would appear that on Jan 23, Constantinos Maltezos did say:

> On Thursday 22 January 2009 10:48:21 pm Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:

> > Well intrepid uses kde4 which has moved away from using the xorg.conf
> > file... - - - - - - -<snip>- - - - - - - As far as intrepid goes
> > the best I know how to do this is to attach a snapshot of the Regional
> > & Language - System Settings >Keyboard Layout...
> >
> > Or that is I would if kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com didn't say:
> >
> > =>  Message body is too big: 178723 bytes with a limit of 40 KB
> >
> > So instead I offer a link that should point to the image file for at
> > least the next month or so...
> >
> > https://home.comcast.net/~jtwdyp/fileShuttle/IntrepidKeyboard.png
> 
> I see that you have keyboard layouts disabled.  I'm very sure you've tried 
> this, but I'll ask anyway: have you tried enabling them?  Don't add anything 
> and take the check mark off of the flag icon thing, but if you haven't tried 
> it, it might be worth it.

I tried enabling the keyboard layouts... No such luck. Still it was
worth the try.

-- 
|    ^^^   ^^^
|    <o>   <o>	     Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|	 ^    		  J(tWdy)P
|	___	       <<jtwdyp at ttlc.net>>
|           
|      <sigh>




From dhazin at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 04:38:07 2009
From: dhazin at gmail.com (Dmitry Hazin)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:38:07 +0600
Subject: kde 4.2 crashes on login, Ubuntu 8.10
In-Reply-To: <1912990028.1373041233173603225.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <b8f0a5130901281107x76d54d66mf1159bbaed10a66a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1912990028.1373041233173603225.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <b8f0a5130901282038g4811e86apb4d4f9818730f93c@mail.gmail.com>

yea, I think it's not a videodriver thing, gnome work just fine with
compiz enabled with all versions of driver that I mentioned.
I did removed ~/.kde before logging to kde first time; I even tried to
remove all kde packages with 'completely remove' option, remove .kde
dir from my home dir, then install kubuntu-desktop again.
Unfortunately nothing changed :(
Btw, what is the second icon on kde splash screen? after i hit enter
on login screen, it shows kde splash screen (black bar in the middle
of the screen) with harddrive icon for few seconds and after that
crashes and returns back to login.

2009/1/29  <pkaplan1 at comcast.net>:
> Assuming it's not a nvidia driver thing, have you renamed ~/.kde and let 4.2
> build a new one for you.  I've seen this happen in prior version upgrades,
> presumably due to incompatible config settings in the older directory.
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dmitry Hazin" <dhazin at gmail.com>
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:07:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: kde 4.2 crashes on login, Ubuntu 8.10
>
> Here is short description of my actions:
>
> 0. I have Ubuntu 8.10 with  nvidia 7600GS; problem persists with
> 177.xx, 180.11 (from launchpad) and 180.25 drivers
>
> 1. I used following repository for kde 4.2:
> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
> multiverse restricted universe
>
> 2. Installed kubuntu-desktop, selected kdm as a default display manager
>
> 3. Reboot
>
> 4. Login to kde fails, there are following lines in syslog:
>
> Jan 29 00:33:05 dhazin kernel: [  464.893443] kded4[9823]: segfault at
> 0 ip 48be08a5 sp bf8be9d0 error 4 in
> libQtGui.so.4.4.3[48a34000+8f5000]
> Jan 29 00:33:05 dhazin kernel: [  464.985041] kcminit_startup[9827]:
> segfault at 0 ip 48be08a5 sp bfd74f90 error 4 in
> libQtGui.so.4.4.3[48a34000+8f5000]
> Jan 29 00:33:05 dhazin kernel: [  465.107018] ksmserver[9829]:
> segfault at 0 ip 48be08a5 sp bfeb5fd0 error 4 in
> libQtGui.so.4.4.3[48a34000+8f5000]
>
>
>
> Is this a known bug and can I do anything to workaround it? Should I
> post bug report somewhere and if yes what information should I place
> there?
>
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From magick.crow at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 07:50:11 2009
From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:50:11 +0100
Subject: No really I need help!; Java kills sound
In-Reply-To: <200901281837.02931.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <f495db580901281148i7f86e356ua0feb93be2e53e2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901281837.02931.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f495db580901282350v31d6015er19b6f34ec4993b9f@mail.gmail.com>

> Do you have dmix enabled in alsa?  You see, but for some Creative sound cards
> that have hardware mixers, alsa (the Linux sound architecture) doesn't by
> default mix audio - basically meaning that sounds from different programs not
> using a software mixer (like aRts provides for KDE3) cannot play at once.
> There is a software mixer for alsa called dmix and it works great in my
> experience (though my current computer has a SoundBlaster with a hardware
> mixer), but it's usually not enabled by default.  Sadly, there's no way that I
> know of to change that with a GUI, so if you haven't enabled it on your
> machine, you'll have to copy or edit a config file.  If I recall correctly,
> doing this on Kubuntu was rather simple, because they have a sample alsa
> config file somewhere in the alsa package (somewhere among the docs for some
> reason) that you can copy to /etc.  I think the name of the file is
> alsa.conf.example and you need to rename it to alsa.conf when you copy it with
> sudo.  That file worked for me without editing, so I hope it does for you,
> too.
>
> I hope I hit the mark here and am not barking up the wrong tree.

Thanks, I found a file called also.conf but I don't see anything about
the setting you talked about.



-- 
Douglas E Knapp

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From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 29 09:33:27 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:33:27 -0600
Subject: No really I need help!; Java kills sound
In-Reply-To: <f495db580901282350v31d6015er19b6f34ec4993b9f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f495db580901281148i7f86e356ua0feb93be2e53e2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901281837.02931.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<f495db580901282350v31d6015er19b6f34ec4993b9f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901290333.27639.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Thursday 29 January 2009 1:50:11 am Knapp wrote:
> > Do you have dmix enabled in alsa?  You see, but for some Creative sound
> > cards that have hardware mixers, alsa (the Linux sound architecture)
> > doesn't by default mix audio - basically meaning that sounds from
> > different programs not using a software mixer (like aRts provides for
> > KDE3) cannot play at once. There is a software mixer for alsa called dmix
> > and it works great in my experience (though my current computer has a
> > SoundBlaster with a hardware mixer), but it's usually not enabled by
> > default.  Sadly, there's no way that I know of to change that with a GUI,
> > so if you haven't enabled it on your machine, you'll have to copy or edit
> > a config file.  If I recall correctly, doing this on Kubuntu was rather
> > simple, because they have a sample alsa config file somewhere in the alsa
> > package (somewhere among the docs for some reason) that you can copy to
> > /etc.  I think the name of the file is alsa.conf.example and you need to
> > rename it to alsa.conf when you copy it with sudo.  That file worked for
> > me without editing, so I hope it does for you, too.
> >
> > I hope I hit the mark here and am not barking up the wrong tree.
>
> Thanks, I found a file called also.conf but I don't see anything about
> the setting you talked about.

http://buglandia.blogspot.com/2007/08/howto-software-audio-mixing-in-
ubuntu.html

Sorry, was wrong about the config file name.  It's asound.conf.  Go to the 
link above (I hope word wrap doesn't kill the url, or you'll have to put the 
last part in).  It gives you easy instructions how to enable software mixing 
in alsa in both Debian and Ubuntu (which will work for Kubuntu).



From rk at vzsze.de  Thu Jan 29 13:01:05 2009
From: rk at vzsze.de (Rolf Kutz)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:01:05 +0100
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com> <497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>
	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com> <497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>

On 26/01/09 06:15 -0500, Art Alexion wrote:
>On 01/25/2009 Alan Dacey wrote:
>>> > i am using KDE 4.2 on Intrepid :P but using a PPA, as explained in 
>>> > kubuntu's news pages
>>> > 
>> 
>> True, but the ppa versions are really beta.  I'm using them too in a separate 
>> partition and they rock!  This is what KDE 4.0 should have been -sweet, pretty, 
>> robust and It Just Works.

Without 4.0 there would be no 4.2 right now.

>Weren't 4.0-4.1 betas?

4.0 was API-stable and that was written all over
them.

regards, Rolf
-- 
People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be
afraid of their people. - V



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Thu Jan 29 13:17:46 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:17:46 +0100
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com>
	<497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>
	<497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com> <20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>
Message-ID: <glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org>

Rolf Kutz wrote:

> 
> Without 4.0 there would be no 4.2 right now.
> 
Without 4.0, there would be 4.0 right now.

>> Weren't 4.0-4.1 betas?
> 
> 4.0 was API-stable and that was written all over
> them.
> 

and anybody correctly understood that "4.0" is not a production release.;-))

Come on!

While the developers are brilliant, the KDE marketing has promising 
potential to catch up.

Kind regards
Eberhard




From girardhenri at free.fr  Thu Jan 29 13:27:51 2009
From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:27:51 +0100
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com> <497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>
	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com> <497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>
	<20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>  <glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>

kde4.2 is very good ... Nice speedy and confortable :)
kdevelop4 coming is already working fanstatic:)

good works all :)
thanks



Le jeudi 29 janvier 2009 à 14:17 +0100, Eberhard Roloff a écrit :
> Rolf Kutz wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Without 4.0 there would be no 4.2 right now.
> > 
> Without 4.0, there would be 4.0 right now.
> 
> >> Weren't 4.0-4.1 betas?
> > 
> > 4.0 was API-stable and that was written all over
> > them.
> > 
> 
> and anybody correctly understood that "4.0" is not a production release.;-))
> 
> Come on!
> 
> While the developers are brilliant, the KDE marketing has promising 
> potential to catch up.
> 
> Kind regards
> Eberhard
> 
> 




From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 13:28:32 2009
From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:28:32 +0300
Subject: Keyboard shortcut for applications menu
In-Reply-To: <497DBD83.5040508@gmail.com>
References: <497DBD83.5040508@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4981AF00.5060803@gmail.com>

seems everyone here is using mouse and have never faced with shortcut 
failure :)


Alexander Smirnov wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i'm using kubuntu 8.04 (with KDE3.5.10).
> impressed by kickoff in kde4(on another machine), I installed 
> tastymenu to kde3.
> After some time i decided to move back to standard menu.
> I removed tastymenu applet and  added "K menu" to my kicker, but for 
> some reason it didn't open when i press ALT+F1 shortcut.
>
> I tried to change shortcut in "system settings" to something else - 
> but that didn't work either :(
>
>
> any ideas?




From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Thu Jan 29 13:46:37 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:46:37 -0600
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com>
	<497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>
	<497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>	<20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>
	<glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org> <1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>
Message-ID: <4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>

I haven't kept the whole thread so I can't quote the OP from local 
directories. However, in answer to part of their question, "is KDE 4.2 
ever making it to 8.10":

<Quote from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 >

The updated packages for Kubuntu 8.10 are located in the Kubuntu 
Experimental Software Personal Package Archive (PPA) repository. To 
update to KDE 4.2, please follow these instructions:

  1. Remove the koffice-data-kde4 package if you have it installed. The
     current koffice2 packages in the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA are
     incompatible with the KDE 4.2 packages since they try to install
     icons to the same locations.
  2. Follow the Kubuntu Repository Guide
     <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu> to enable
     /Recommended Updates/ and add the following to your 'Third-Party
     Software' tab:
     deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
  3. You can add the package signing key with this command:
     gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 493B3065 && gpg
     --export -a 493B3065 | sudo apt-key add -
  4. Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should
     uninstall any plasmoids.
  5. You can now update any existing KDE 4 installation to the most
     recent version using the Adept Updater tool in your system tray.
  6. Now log out and press Alt + E to restart X. When you log in you
     will have KDE 4.2. Enjoy.


       <unquote>

The answer is "Yes."



From gkourtev at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 13:51:23 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:51:23 +0200
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao> <4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <200901291551.23392.gkourtev@gmail.com>

Do I have to remove the ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental from the 
repository after the installation or is fine to leave it there?
gk

On Thursday 29 January 2009 15:46:37 Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> I haven't kept the whole thread so I can't quote the OP from local
> directories. However, in answer to part of their question, "is KDE 4.2
> ever making it to 8.10":
>
> <Quote from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 >
>
> The updated packages for Kubuntu 8.10 are located in the Kubuntu
> Experimental Software Personal Package Archive (PPA) repository. To
> update to KDE 4.2, please follow these instructions:
>
>   1. Remove the koffice-data-kde4 package if you have it installed. The
>      current koffice2 packages in the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA are
>      incompatible with the KDE 4.2 packages since they try to install
>      icons to the same locations.
>   2. Follow the Kubuntu Repository Guide
>      <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu> to enable
>      /Recommended Updates/ and add the following to your 'Third-Party
>      Software' tab:
>      deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
>   3. You can add the package signing key with this command:
>      gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 493B3065 && gpg
>      --export -a 493B3065 | sudo apt-key add -
>   4. Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should
>      uninstall any plasmoids.
>   5. You can now update any existing KDE 4 installation to the most
>      recent version using the Adept Updater tool in your system tray.
>   6. Now log out and press Alt + E to restart X. When you log in you
>      will have KDE 4.2. Enjoy.
>
>
>        <unquote>
>
> The answer is "Yes."


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From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk  Thu Jan 29 14:50:36 2009
From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:50:36 +0000
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <200901291551.23392.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao> <4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
	<200901291551.23392.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090129145036.50f338f0.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:51:23 +0200
Georgi Kourtev <gkourtev at gmail.com> wrote:

GK> Do I have to remove the ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental from
GK> the  repository after the installation or is fine to leave it there?

Leave it there, there will be updates to fix bugs, possibly extra
packages (such as plasmoids) may also get added later.


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From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Thu Jan 29 14:57:35 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:57:35 -0600
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <200901291551.23392.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>
	<4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
	<200901291551.23392.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4981C3DF.1000209@swbell.net>

On 01/29/2009 Georgi Kourtev wrote:
>  Do I have to remove the ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental from
>  the repository after the installation or is fine to leave it there?
>  gk
>
>
>

Well................

Long answer:

I'm sure someone will have a better answer but I left it in. At first I 
just disabled it but one of the new packages didn't get installed for 
4.2 so I enabled it again and installed the one package. I probably 
should disable it but haven't so far. I'm sort of debating. If there are 
any updates to 4.2 I suppose they will be in the ppa so if it's disabled 
I won't get them till 9.04. On the other hand 9.04 is only a couple 
months away so....................

Short answer:

Leave it in but possibly disable in sources.



From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Thu Jan 29 16:08:15 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:08:15 -0800
Subject: medibuntu
Message-ID: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

Anyone have any idea what happened to the medibuntu repositories for hardy?  I 
don't find anything at their address at all using  http://www.medibuntu.org  
Is this the wrong address now?  Seemed to have quit a couple days ago 
according to my Update Manager.

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From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com  Thu Jan 29 16:13:31 2009
From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Norman Wootton)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:13:31 +0000
Subject: [Fwd: [Bug 322385] [NEW] solid blue rectangle(sbr) covering some
	icons in	task bar]
Message-ID: <4981D5AB.7020103@btinternet.com>

I've just opened a launchpad bug with the symptoms described below, I 
don't know if any other of
us have had anything similar happen to them. using 'forward' here, I 
have 'kmix' completely covered
with a 'sbr' and I have to run the cursor over the time/date icon to 
make it show up.
brian

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[Bug 322385] [NEW] solid blue rectangle(sbr) covering some 
icons in task bar
Date: 	Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:56:19 -0000
From: 	Brian Wootton <Brian.Meg at btinternet.com>
Reply-To: 	Bug 322385 <322385 at bugs.launchpad.net>
To: 	Brian.Meg at btinternet.com
References: 	<20090128165619.31387.80388.malonedeb at gandwana.canonical.com>



Public bug reported:

The task bar is absolutely correct until I attempt to use mail, and only if I use new/write, reply, reply all, or forward do
I get the following symptoms.

While I am creating the body of the mail message, some or all of the icons are covered with solid blue rectangles,
each will clear momentarily when I run the cursor over it. The sbr does not interfere with the functionality of the
icon, I just have to remember where the icon I want is hidden. The worst task bar mess happens when I'm
replying to kubuntu-users-request!
When I hit send, the task bar sbrs settle down a bit and only blank out one or two icons, usually kmix and eth0

There are no sbr problems at the moment because I haven't sent any mail since I booted up.
I thought it might be Thunderbird causing the problem, so I set up KMail and used that, no difference, still the
same symptoms. So I thought the problem might be with the SMTP. But I got a similar problem when I logged
into my ISP account and sent mail from there.
This is as far as I've got, hope you can help.

I'm running kubuntu intrepid 8.10 with KDE 4.1.3 on a 64bit AMD Sempron

** Affects: ubuntu
     Importance: Undecided
         Status: New

-- 
solid blue rectangle(sbr) covering some icons in task bar
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/322385
You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
of the bug.

Status in Ubuntu: New

Bug description:
The task bar is absolutely correct until I attempt to use mail, and only if I use new/write, reply, reply all, or forward do
I get the following symptoms.

While I am creating the body of the mail message, some or all of the icons are covered with solid blue rectangles,
each will clear momentarily when I run the cursor over it. The sbr does not interfere with the functionality of the
icon, I just have to remember where the icon I want is hidden. The worst task bar mess happens when I'm
replying to kubuntu-users-request!
When I hit send, the task bar sbrs settle down a bit and only blank out one or two icons, usually kmix and eth0

There are no sbr problems at the moment because I haven't sent any mail since I booted up.
I thought it might be Thunderbird causing the problem, so I set up KMail and used that, no difference, still the
same symptoms. So I thought the problem might be with the SMTP. But I got a similar problem when I logged
into my ISP account and sent mail from there.
This is as far as I've got, hope you can help.

I'm running kubuntu intrepid 8.10 with KDE 4.1.3 on a 64bit AMD Sempron





From tycho at tycho.ws  Thu Jan 29 16:21:01 2009
From: tycho at tycho.ws (Tycho Andersen)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:21:01 -0600
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <49b3a7400901290821m64c663b8o414456b93a2f5869@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Pastor JW
<pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org> wrote:
> Anyone have any idea what happened to the medibuntu repositories for hardy?  I
> don't find anything at their address at all using  http://www.medibuntu.org
> Is this the wrong address now?  Seemed to have quit a couple days ago
> according to my Update Manager.

This page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu still seems to
have Hardy listed. Have you confirmed that something didn't get
changed with your sources.list/sources.list.d?

Tycho



From jerryg at gaiser.org  Thu Jan 29 16:20:04 2009
From: jerryg at gaiser.org (Jerry Gaiser)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:20:04 -0800
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <200901290820.05018.jerryg@gaiser.org>

On Thursday 29 January 2009 08:08, Pastor JW wrote:
> Anyone have any idea what happened to the medibuntu repositories for hardy?
>  I don't find anything at their address at all using 
> http://www.medibuntu.org Is this the wrong address now?  Seemed to have
> quit a couple days ago according to my Update Manager.

Works fine out here in Oregon

-- 
Jerry Gaiser in North Plains, Oregon USA - 45.6933N 123.0418W
"...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in one pretty and well-preserved piece, but to slide across the finish line
broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, and shouting
GERONIMO!!!" -- Bill McKenna



From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Thu Jan 29 16:56:43 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:56:43 -0800
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <49b3a7400901290821m64c663b8o414456b93a2f5869@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<49b3a7400901290821m64c663b8o414456b93a2f5869@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901290856.43820.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Thursday 29 January 2009 8:21:01 am Tycho Andersen wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Pastor JW
>
> <pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org> wrote:
> > Anyone have any idea what happened to the medibuntu repositories for
> > hardy?  I don't find anything at their address at all using 
> > http://www.medibuntu.org Is this the wrong address now?  Seemed to have
> > quit a couple days ago according to my Update Manager.
>
> This page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu still seems to
> have Hardy listed. Have you confirmed that something didn't get
> changed with your sources.list/sources.list.d?

 No my list is unchanged.  Notice the address given on those pages as to where 
the repository resides?  ...that is the address which no longer works. Hardy 
itself being a LTS should continue to be supported awhile but medibuntu may 
not be.  Still since the medibuntu addresses for Jackalope and Ibex are the 
same as Heron's, I expect they are not available either.  Notice all of them 
start out with  " http://www.medibuntu.org "?  It is this server that is 
missing, not the instructions, I sorry I wasn't more clear.    



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From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Thu Jan 29 17:08:17 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:08:17 -0800
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <200901290820.05018.jerryg@gaiser.org>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<200901290820.05018.jerryg@gaiser.org>
Message-ID: <200901290908.18020.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Thursday 29 January 2009 8:20:04 am Jerry Gaiser wrote:
> On Thursday 29 January 2009 08:08, Pastor JW wrote:
> > Anyone have any idea what happened to the medibuntu repositories for
> > hardy? I don't find anything at their address at all using
> > http://www.medibuntu.org Is this the wrong address now?  Seemed to have
> > quit a couple days ago according to my Update Manager.
>
> Works fine out here in Oregon

All right, it must be my ISP's DNS servers then.  none of my browsers will go 
there.  they all come back with "Unknown host www.medibuntu.org"'  I'm 
located not so far from Oregon, about 6 miles!  I live in Walla Walla.  I 
went checking cause my Update Manager came back saying, "last updated 43 
hours ago" yet there was few updates this morning anyway.  I found it to be 
the medibuntu one which was not updating so was trying to find out why.  
Thanks for the info.





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From cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr  Thu Jan 29 17:47:06 2009
From: cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr (Nigel Henry)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:47:06 +0100
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <200901290856.43820.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<49b3a7400901290821m64c663b8o414456b93a2f5869@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901290856.43820.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <200901291847.07390.cave.dnb2m97pp@aliceadsl.fr>

On Thursday 29 January 2009 17:56, Pastor JW wrote:
> On Thursday 29 January 2009 8:21:01 am Tycho Andersen wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Pastor JW
> >
> > <pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org> wrote:
> > > Anyone have any idea what happened to the medibuntu repositories for
> > > hardy?  I don't find anything at their address at all using
> > > http://www.medibuntu.org Is this the wrong address now?  Seemed to have
> > > quit a couple days ago according to my Update Manager.
> >
> > This page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu still seems to
> > have Hardy listed. Have you confirmed that something didn't get
> > changed with your sources.list/sources.list.d?
>
>  No my list is unchanged.  Notice the address given on those pages as to
> where the repository resides?  ...that is the address which no longer
> works. Hardy itself being a LTS should continue to be supported awhile but
> medibuntu may not be.  Still since the medibuntu addresses for Jackalope
> and Ibex are the same as Heron's, I expect they are not available either. 
> Notice all of them start out with  " http://www.medibuntu.org "?  It is
> this server that is missing, not the instructions, I sorry I wasn't more
> clear.

The link above still works ok for me, and my /etc/apt/sources.list.d is as 
below, and still works ok on Hardy.

deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free

Just to check it out I'm currently downloading w32codecs with apt-get, so 
there appears to be no problem with the medibuntu repo.

Nigel.



From basroufs at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 18:27:36 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:27:36 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32 
	partitions.
Message-ID: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>

Dear everybody

At present, I am trying to access and mount from Kubuntu 8.10 an
external HD with two partitions:
* an NTFS partition of 365 GB (free: 157 GB)
* a FAT-32 partition of 100 GB (free: 80 GB).
The device has a USB 2.0 interface cable which I plugged in in a USB
drive. However, I did not yet manage to identify the device in any way
I could think about. So far, I fruitlessly tried it via Dolphin,
Konqueror,the 'new devices widget', Mount Manager, Disk Manager and
the terminal. In a recent thread with a similar subject, I did not
find any key for the problem I am dealing with.

On the other hand, the Windows XP partition does recognise both
partitions of the device. The same applies for the MacOS partition on
another PC. Does anybody have a clue what I could do to access this
external HD from Kubuntu 8.10?

I really would appreciate your help. Respectfully yours,

Bas.


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From arnaud.bourree at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 18:51:42 2009
From: arnaud.bourree at gmail.com (Arnaud bourree)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:51:42 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32 
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ac06429e0901291051g4690ef48hfff831ac57b3ae3@mail.gmail.com>

My Kubuntu 8.10 mounts my external HD which is NTFS without any issue except
if I unplug HD from Windows with request first safe unmount

Arnaud.

2009/1/29 Bas Roufs <basroufs at gmail.com>

> Dear everybody
>
> At present, I am trying to access and mount from Kubuntu 8.10 an
> external HD with two partitions:
> * an NTFS partition of 365 GB (free: 157 GB)
> * a FAT-32 partition of 100 GB (free: 80 GB).
> The device has a USB 2.0 interface cable which I plugged in in a USB
> drive. However, I did not yet manage to identify the device in any way
> I could think about. So far, I fruitlessly tried it via Dolphin,
> Konqueror,the 'new devices widget', Mount Manager, Disk Manager and
> the terminal. In a recent thread with a similar subject, I did not
> find any key for the problem I am dealing with.
>
> On the other hand, the Windows XP partition does recognise both
> partitions of the device. The same applies for the MacOS partition on
> another PC. Does anybody have a clue what I could do to access this
> external HD from Kubuntu 8.10?
>
> I really would appreciate your help. Respectfully yours,
>
> Bas.
>
>
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From d.mcglone at att.net  Thu Jan 29 18:56:17 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:56:17 -0500
Subject: choppy .mov in kaffeine
In-Reply-To: <1233170938.7466.222.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <200901181321.58034.d.mcglone@att.net>
	<1233170938.7466.222.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <200901291356.17998.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Wednesday 28 January 2009 2:28:57 pm Ric Moore wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 13:21 -0500, David McGlone wrote:
> > Has anyone experienced playing choppy sound with .mov files  played with
> > kaffeine or dragon player? They play fine in vlc and Mplayer, but I can't
> > stand Mplayer, I want to use Kaffeine.
> >
> > I've googled and tried all kinds of things and I can't figure out why the
> > sound just keeps cutting in and out only on .mov files.
> >
> > Any Ideas?
> > Thanks,
>
> I was dinking with Xine's setup and it all went to heck. So I went into
> the .xine directory, renamed config to config.orig and then cranked up
> xine again. It now works just fine. Since Kaffine uses Xine as it's
> engine, quite possibly you may have broken something when editing
> Kaffine's setup. It's worth a shot. :) Ric

Thanks Ric. I gave it a try, but it didn't help.
-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From d.mcglone at att.net  Thu Jan 29 19:02:46 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:02:46 -0500
Subject: speaking of kdevelop (was: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to
	8.10?)
In-Reply-To: <1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org> <1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>
Message-ID: <200901291402.46653.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Thursday 29 January 2009 8:27:51 am Girard Henri wrote:
> kde4.2 is very good ... Nice speedy and confortable :)
> kdevelop4 coming is already working fanstatic:)

speaking of kdevelop, do you use kdevelop for PHP programming? If so do you 
have the preview working with PHP?

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From d.mcglone at att.net  Thu Jan 29 19:09:07 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:09:07 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick -- Yes! Get the path right.
In-Reply-To: <200901282132.41880.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<1233183371.7466.288.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
	<200901282132.41880.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <200901291409.07778.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Wednesday 28 January 2009 9:32:41 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> Dear Ric,
>
> Before I read this email, I pretty much decided to take the suggestions
> included in this email to heart.  Not knowing what things cause problems, I
> simply stick my head down and trudge forward.  Nonetheless, everyone on the
> list proves that they have my best interest at heart, so I will take the
> advice and let the things that are potentially a kettle of worms go.  I
> wish you could be that computer friend that you refer to.
>
> Unfortunately, I live in a neighborhood where everyone I have talked with
> has no interest in computers.  I think it is just that they don't think
> they could handle the intellectual aspect of it, but no one has yet shown
> enough interest for me to even help them get a free computer so they could
> try.

Steven, I recall you saying you live in Dayton Ohio? If so, I am in Columbus. 
Maybe someday we could meet up.

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Thu Jan 29 19:31:26 2009
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:31:26 -0500
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <200901290820.05018.jerryg@gaiser.org>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<200901290820.05018.jerryg@gaiser.org>
Message-ID: <200901291431.26595.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 29 January 2009, Jerry Gaiser wrote:
>On Thursday 29 January 2009 08:08, Pastor JW wrote:
>> Anyone have any idea what happened to the medibuntu repositories for
>> hardy? I don't find anything at their address at all using
>> http://www.medibuntu.org Is this the wrong address now?  Seemed to have
>> quit a couple days ago according to my Update Manager.
>
>Works fine out here in Oregon
>
And here in WV too I believe, the web page does anyway.  And it work for my 
8.04 LTS machine too.
>--
>Jerry Gaiser in North Plains, Oregon USA - 45.6933N 123.0418W
>"...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
>in one pretty and well-preserved piece, but to slide across the finish line
>broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, and shouting
>GERONIMO!!!" -- Bill McKenna



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
I have a rock garden.  Last week three of them died.
		-- Richard Diran



From basroufs at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 19:43:53 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:43:53 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32 
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <ac06429e0901291051g4690ef48hfff831ac57b3ae3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>
	<ac06429e0901291051g4690ef48hfff831ac57b3ae3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901291143k5f2fafdar3c0931aef98233ac@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Arnaud and everybody else

> My Kubuntu 8.10 mounts my external HD which is NTFS
> without any issue

It is good to know that Kubuntu 8.10 can - in principle-  mount and
access a NTFS formatted external HD. However, in my case there must be
still some missing link disabling me to mount mine.

I took a more thorough look in the package 'MountManager 0.2.4.'.
There, I found this info:

Device: UUID=0834CB7534CB63F2
Mount point: Unknown
File system: ntfs
Options: defaults
Dump flag: 0
Fsck value: 0

There is only one device here with an NTFS file system: the external
HD I am talking about. This implies that 'Mount Manager' can identify
it. But the 'mount point' is 'unknown'. Is there a way to manually
establish some 'mount point' without damaging the data on the ext. HD?
If not, is there a way to make it accessible again by formatting it,
after making a data backup via the Windows partition? Is there any
other clue to solve the problem?

Thx. for your feedback.

Bas.

-- 
===============
Viaconsensus
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Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
===============



From jonorland at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 20:22:19 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:22:19 +0100
Subject: Keyboard shortcut for applications menu
In-Reply-To: <4981AF00.5060803@gmail.com>
References: <497DBD83.5040508@gmail.com> <4981AF00.5060803@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901291222paa04e5fh92871ae4a2057a42@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/29 Alexander Smirnov <alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com>:
> seems everyone here is using mouse and have never faced with shortcut
> failure :)
>
>
> Alexander Smirnov wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> i'm using kubuntu 8.04 (with KDE3.5.10).
>> impressed by kickoff in kde4(on another machine), I installed
>> tastymenu to kde3.
>> After some time i decided to move back to standard menu.
>> I removed tastymenu applet and  added "K menu" to my kicker, but for
>> some reason it didn't open when i press ALT+F1 shortcut.
>>
>> I tried to change shortcut in "system settings" to something else -
>> but that didn't work either :(
>>
>>
>> any ideas?
>

I would try to reset the config file for shortcuts. In 8.10 I have
~/.kde/share/config/kglobalshortcutsrc and
~/.kde/share/config/khotkeysrc.
Make a backup of them then delete them and logout and login.

/ Jonas



From doc.evans at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 21:05:51 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:05:51 -0700
Subject: choppy .mov in kaffeine
In-Reply-To: <200901181321.58034.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901181321.58034.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <49821A2F.3000107@gmail.com>

David McGlone said the following at 01/18/2009 11:21 AM :
> Has anyone experienced playing choppy sound with .mov files  played wit=
h=20
> kaffeine or dragon player? They play fine in vlc and Mplayer, but I can=
't=20
> stand Mplayer, I want to use Kaffeine.=20
>=20

This is one of the regressions I've seen here when moving from 8.04 to
8.10. Video is flickery and the sound choppy. I haven't bothered to try
spend the time to try to do anything about it. I figure (perhaps na=C3=AF=
vely)
that it's something to do with the new multimedia subsystem in KDE4 and
that at some point in the next year or so it will go back to working
perfectly like it used to.

  Doc

--=20
Web:  http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR

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From claydoh at midmaine.com  Thu Jan 29 21:09:27 2009
From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:09:27 -0500
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <200901291551.23392.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>
	<4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
	<200901291551.23392.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49821B07.4000109@midmaine.com>

Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> Do I have to remove the ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental from 
> the repository after the installation or is fine to leave it there?
> gk
>
>
You definitely do not want to remove kubuntu-experimental

Clay Weber



From jonorland at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 21:09:03 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:09:03 +0100
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
In-Reply-To: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com>
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901291309u76ac1ee3s818ab658f1bab1d9@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/23 Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>:
>
> I hope you find this helpful, and if you know of any cute tab-completion
> tricks please let us know.  If you use the command-line a lot, you'll
> find that pressing the tab key becomes instinctive and you'll really
> miss it when you are in a program that doesn't use it.
>
> Paul
>

One thing i use all the time with bash is the command history and the
readline shortcuts. So here is some of my most used shortcuts.
Arrow up or CTRL+P will fetch the previous command from the history.
Arrow down or CTRL+N will fetch the next command from the history.
CTRL+R will reverse search history for what ever you enter. Greate for
fetching that complicated command you wrote some days ago but dont
remember.
CTRL+A move to beginning of line.
CTRL+E move to end of line.
ALT+F move forward a word.
ALT+B move back a word.
CTRL+L clear screen.
CTRL+k remove the text from the cursor to the end of the line.
CTRL+X BACKSPACE remove text from the cursor to the beginning of the line.
ALT+D delete a word forward.
ALT+BACKSPACE delete a word backwards.

And there is more shortcuts in the readline library like copy and
paste that could help a lot when working in the shell.

/ Jonas



From gkourtev at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 21:18:09 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:18:09 +0200
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <49821B07.4000109@midmaine.com>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<200901291551.23392.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<49821B07.4000109@midmaine.com>
Message-ID: <200901292318.09838.gkourtev@gmail.com>

Why?  Is there a chance to get some not-yet-ready stuff over the experimental 
repository?  Are the main updates now organised through this ppa?
Thanks.
gk

On Thursday 29 January 2009 23:09:27 Clay Weber wrote:
> Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> > Do I have to remove the ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental from
> > the repository after the installation or is fine to leave it there?
> > gk
>
> You definitely do not want to remove kubuntu-experimental
>
> Clay Weber


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From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com  Thu Jan 29 22:26:27 2009
From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:26:27 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901291143k5f2fafdar3c0931aef98233ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>
	<ac06429e0901291051g4690ef48hfff831ac57b3ae3@mail.gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901291143k5f2fafdar3c0931aef98233ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>

Am Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2009 20:43:53 schrieb Bas Roufs:

> There is only one device here with an NTFS file system: the external
> HD I am talking about. This implies that 'Mount Manager' can identify
> it. But the 'mount point' is 'unknown'. Is there a way to manually
> establish some 'mount point' without damaging the data on the ext. HD?
> If not, is there a way to make it accessible again by formatting it,
> after making a data backup via the Windows partition? Is there any
> other clue to solve the problem?
>
> Thx. for your feedback.
>
> Bas.

Namastè, Bas,

you could look into /var/log/syslog (and ../messages and ../dmesg) after plugging the 
disk into USB to see if there are any messages regarding the external HD. They could 
probably give you (and us) a clue what's wrong.

-- 
Love and Light,
Ulrich
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  " Can't talk to you without talking to me; we're guilty of the same old thing.
        Thinking a lot about less and less, and forgetting the love we bring "
                                     [Grateful Dead, in: 'Althea']
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OS: Kubuntu 8.10 (Linux)        de.geocities.com/india_ulrich/Philosophie.html



From k7qo at commspeed.net  Thu Jan 29 22:41:24 2009
From: k7qo at commspeed.net (chuck adams)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:41:24 -0700
Subject: K3b problem Kubuntu 8.04.2 AMD64
Message-ID: <200901291541.24875.k7qo@commspeed.net>


Maybe someone can give me a quick and easy answer.

I was backing up personal files using K3b.  Had done
a few DVDs without a problem.

I kept getting a popup asking if I wanted to mount
the device when running K3b and inserted the disc
to write to.  I kept selecting ignore.  Then, one time
I hit select K3b and do this every time.  My mistake
I guess.

Now, when I insert a blank DVD, K3b comes up and
I can select files to write to the disc, but when I
select 'burn' the 'start' button is never activated.
I have attempted to write using sudo to run as
root and I'm looking for the system setting that
was changed to give me this unusable condition.

Hopefully, some one has been there, done that.

thanks in advance

chuck






From GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com  Thu Jan 29 23:05:04 2009
From: GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:05:04 -0500
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <200901290908.18020.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>	<200901290820.05018.jerryg@gaiser.org>
	<200901290908.18020.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <49823620.40001@ajinfosearch.com>

Pastor JW wrote:
> On Thursday 29 January 2009 8:20:04 am Jerry Gaiser wrote:
>> On Thursday 29 January 2009 08:08, Pastor JW wrote:
>>> Anyone have any idea what happened to the medibuntu repositories for
>>> hardy? I don't find anything at their address at all using
>>> http://www.medibuntu.org Is this the wrong address now?  Seemed to have
>>> quit a couple days ago according to my Update Manager.
>> Works fine out here in Oregon
> 
> All right, it must be my ISP's DNS servers then.  none of my browsers will go 
> there.  they all come back with "Unknown host www.medibuntu.org"'  I'm 
> located not so far from Oregon, about 6 miles!  I live in Walla Walla.  I 
> went checking cause my Update Manager came back saying, "last updated 43 
> hours ago" yet there was few updates this morning anyway.  I found it to be 
> the medibuntu one which was not updating so was trying to find out why.  
> Thanks for the info.
> 
> 

Replace the "www" with "packages" - it's http://packages.medibuntu.org
I just went into the hardy packages from firefox in New Jersey.

Alan

-- 
"The second most satisfying thing in life is to totally understand a complicated 
concept.  If you are very lucky you may attain *the* most satisfying thing in 
life and actually grok it."



From d.mcglone at att.net  Thu Jan 29 23:26:29 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:26:29 -0500
Subject: choppy .mov in kaffeine
In-Reply-To: <49821A2F.3000107@gmail.com>
References: <200901181321.58034.d.mcglone@att.net> <49821A2F.3000107@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901291826.29584.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Thursday 29 January 2009 4:05:51 pm D. R. Evans wrote:
> David McGlone said the following at 01/18/2009 11:21 AM :
> > Has anyone experienced playing choppy sound with .mov files  played wit=
>
> h=20
>
> > kaffeine or dragon player? They play fine in vlc and Mplayer, but I can=
>
> 't=20
>
> > stand Mplayer, I want to use Kaffeine.=20
> >=20
>
> This is one of the regressions I've seen here when moving from 8.04 to
> 8.10. Video is flickery and the sound choppy. I haven't bothered to try
> spend the time to try to do anything about it. I figure (perhaps na=C3=AF=
> vely)
> that it's something to do with the new multimedia subsystem in KDE4 and
> that at some point in the next year or so it will go back to working
> perfectly like it used to.
>
>   Doc
>
> --=20
> Web:  http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR

I sure hope it don't take a year. 



-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From d.mcglone at att.net  Thu Jan 29 23:36:41 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:36:41 -0500
Subject: My Take on KDE 4.2 PPA
Message-ID: <200901291836.41646.d.mcglone@att.net>

I downloaded it this morning and have been using it all day. I like it. It 
does seem stable, and the only problem I've seen after I've put it though 
vigorous training ;-) is that the To: field is tucked about a little half way 
under the identity drop down when opening a new compose window in kontact, but 
once you select an address or enter one in, it goes back to normal size. Thats 
it, I can't find a single thing wrong with it.

I give the KDE team props, and I'd now recommend it to anyone.
-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From technowizard at gmx.net  Thu Jan 29 23:45:05 2009
From: technowizard at gmx.net (Jan Michelsburg)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:45:05 +0100
Subject: Resolution problem with KDE 4.2 under Gutsy
Message-ID: <200901300045.05983.technowizard@gmx.net>

Hi,

I have a problem with adjusting the resolution permanently under KDE 4.2. 
Everytime KDE starts, the resolution is the highest possible resolution of 
1280x1024 instead of 1024x768 like it was set. If I open the configuration 
program the resoltion instantly changes to the wanted 1024x768, but is reseted 
after a reboot. How can I prevent this from happening? Cause the refresh rate 
is too low at the higher resolution and causes headache and is hurting my 
eyes.

Jan



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Thu Jan 29 23:59:36 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:59:36 -0400
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com>
	<b8d784880901291309u76ac1ee3s818ab658f1bab1d9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9gs956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Jonas Norlander wrote:

> CTRL+A move to beginning of line.

I'd completely forgotten that I used to do that, because HOME usually does 
the job, now
> CTRL+E move to end of line.

END

> ALT+F move forward a word.

CTRL-RIGHT (except I buggered that by following somebody else's advice, and 
haven't got around to fixing it, so it's nice to see that ALT-F and ALT-B 
still work)

> ALT+B move back a word.

CTRL-LEFT

> CTRL+L clear screen.
> CTRL+k remove the text from the cursor to the end of the line.

hmmm.  Never did know that one...

> CTRL+X BACKSPACE remove text from the cursor to the beginning of the line.

ctrl-U

> ALT+D delete a word forward.
> ALT+BACKSPACE delete a word backwards.

Ctrl-W

As, always with Linux, there's more than one way to do anything :-)





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan 30 00:01:19 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:01:19 -0400
Subject: Keyboard shortcut for applications menu
References: <497DBD83.5040508@gmail.com> <4981AF00.5060803@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gjs956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Alexander Smirnov wrote:

> seems everyone here is using mouse and have never faced with shortcut
> failure :)
> 
> 
>> I tried to change shortcut in "system settings" to something else -
>> but that didn't work either :(

No, it's just that that's always worked for me :-(





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan 30 00:06:05 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:06:05 -0400
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com> <497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>
	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>
	<497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com> <20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>
Message-ID: <dss956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Rolf Kutz wrote:

> On 26/01/09 06:15 -0500, Art Alexion wrote:
>>On 01/25/2009 Alan Dacey wrote:
>>>> > i am using KDE 4.2 on Intrepid :P but using a PPA, as explained in
>>>> > kubuntu's news pages
>>>> > 
>>> 
>>> True, but the ppa versions are really beta.  I'm using them too in a
>>> separate
>>> partition and they rock!  This is what KDE 4.0 should have been -sweet,
>>> pretty, robust and It Just Works.
> 
> Without 4.0 there would be no 4.2 right now.

Fine,  but even 4.1 should never have been an Ubuntu default.

> 4.0 was API-stable and that was written all over
> them.

I'm sure _KDE_ was. Unfortunately around 80% of the features I'm used to in 
3.5 _applications_ either don't work at all or are broken badly in 4.1,  
When that means that even trying to use standard keyboard shortcuts in major 
apps like Konqueror or Kate don't work, that's pretty pathetic.  

It took until two weeks ago to finally get KNode fixed so that it didn't blow 
up every time you tried to killfile someone, and didn't need you to manually 
add newlines to your own messages.





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan 30 00:09:57 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:09:57 -0400
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com> <497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>
	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>
	<497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com> <20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>
	<glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org> <1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>
	<4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <m3t956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Billie Erin Walsh wrote:

> I haven't kept the whole thread so I can't quote the OP from local
> directories. However, in answer to part of their question, "is KDE 4.2
> ever making it to 8.10":
> 
> <Quote from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 >
> 
> The updated packages for Kubuntu 8.10 are located in the Kubuntu
> Experimental Software Personal Package Archive (PPA) repository. To
> update to KDE 4.2, please follow these instructions:
... 
> The answer is "Yes."

The answer is absolutely NO.  A PPA is explicitly NOT release software, and 
Kubuntu 8.10 is never going to have KDE 4.2.  It just barely manages to have 
4.1.4.

Far more interesting is the question of whether 9.04 is ever going to have 
4.2 - it's supposed to, but I'm not sure it'll make it in the end.





From hvontres at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 00:24:53 2009
From: hvontres at gmail.com (Hans Henry von Tresckow)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:24:53 -0800
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <m3t956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com> <497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>
	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com> <497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>
	<20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de> <glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao> <4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
	<m3t956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <a7f8874a0901291624u42e3d9b7hd766e68f4c866bff@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Derek Broughton <derek at pointerstop.ca> wrote:
> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>
>> I haven't kept the whole thread so I can't quote the OP from local
>> directories. However, in answer to part of their question, "is KDE 4.2
>> ever making it to 8.10":
>>
>> <Quote from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 >
>>
>> The updated packages for Kubuntu 8.10 are located in the Kubuntu
>> Experimental Software Personal Package Archive (PPA) repository. To
>> update to KDE 4.2, please follow these instructions:
> ...
>> The answer is "Yes."
>
> The answer is absolutely NO.  A PPA is explicitly NOT release software, and
> Kubuntu 8.10 is never going to have KDE 4.2.  It just barely manages to have
> 4.1.4.
>
> Far more interesting is the question of whether 9.04 is ever going to have
> 4.2 - it's supposed to, but I'm not sure it'll make it in the end.
>

Check here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
It looks like the 4.2 Packages are in the regular 9.04(Jaunty) feeds.



-- 
Henry von Tresckow (hvontres)
Bill Cosby  - "A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid
ones that need the advice."



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan 30 00:15:42 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:15:42 -0400
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<200901291551.23392.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<49821B07.4000109@midmaine.com>
	<200901292318.09838.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eet956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Georgi Kourtev wrote:

please don't top-post...

> Why?  Is there a chance to get some not-yet-ready stuff over the
> experimental
> repository?  Are the main updates now organised through this ppa?
> 
> On Thursday 29 January 2009 23:09:27 Clay Weber wrote:
>> Georgi Kourtev wrote:
>> > Do I have to remove the ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental from
>> > the repository after the installation or is fine to leave it there?
>> > gk
>>
>> You definitely do not want to remove kubuntu-experimental

Because it's _experimental_ - meaning it's full of broken stuff, and you 
really want to keep tracking the latest fixes to it, once you've taken leave 
of your senses and installed it in the first place.

[really, I don't think you have to be nuts to use PPAs - I've installed KDE 
versions more raw than those - but it is NOT sane to install a PPA when you 
have to ask questions like "Do I have to remove [it] from the repository 
after the installation'.  Kids, don't do this at home when you don't know 
what you're doing!  And, btw, the PPA _is_ the "repository": you mean 
"remove the repository from my sources"]





From claydoh at midmaine.com  Fri Jan 30 00:34:23 2009
From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:34:23 -0500
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <200901292318.09838.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<49821B07.4000109@midmaine.com>
	<200901292318.09838.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901291934.24128.claydoh@midmaine.com>

On Thursday 29 January 2009 4:18:09 pm Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> Why?  Is there a chance to get some not-yet-ready stuff over the
> experimental repository? 

Yes, such as the 4.2betas and rc's recently before the official release of 4.2, 
and possibly betas for 4.3 (I am not sure on that for Intrepid, though). It is 
the way Kubuntu has provided the Latest and Greatest for a while now as they 
can't by Ubuntu policy add new versions of stuff to an existing release for the 
most part.

> Are the main updates now organised through this
> ppa?
No, not at all. This repo is unsupported, though created by the Kubuntu 
Packaging Ninjas(tm). Main updates, such as the recent KDE4.1.4 for Intrepid 
were in the normal update channels and are supported.

> Thanks.
> gk
>
> On Thursday 29 January 2009 23:09:27 Clay Weber wrote:
> > Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> > > Do I have to remove the ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental from
> > > the repository after the installation or is fine to leave it there?
> > > gk
> >
> > You definitely do not want to remove kubuntu-experimental
> >
> > Clay Weber

-- 
Clay Weber
http://kubuntuforums.net
http://flyballmaine.com
http://emacdogsports.com



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Fri Jan 30 00:50:09 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:50:09 -0600
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <m3t956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com>
	<497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>	<497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>
	<20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>	<glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>	<4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
	<m3t956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <49824EC1.9030805@swbell.net>

Derek Broughton wrote:
> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>
>   
>> I haven't kept the whole thread so I can't quote the OP from local
>> directories. However, in answer to part of their question, "is KDE 4.2
>> ever making it to 8.10":
>>
>> <Quote from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 >
>>
>> The updated packages for Kubuntu 8.10 are located in the Kubuntu
>> Experimental Software Personal Package Archive (PPA) repository. To
>> update to KDE 4.2, please follow these instructions:
>>     
> ... 
>   
>> The answer is "Yes."
>>     
>
> The answer is absolutely NO.  A PPA is explicitly NOT release software, and 
> Kubuntu 8.10 is never going to have KDE 4.2.  It just barely manages to have 
> 4.1.4.
>
> Far more interesting is the question of whether 9.04 is ever going to have 
> 4.2 - it's supposed to, but I'm not sure it'll make it in the end.

The answer is "Yes".

<quote from kde.org>


    Latest Announcements

*KDE 4.2.0 released <http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/index.php>*
On 27th January 2009, KDE 4.2.0 was released by the KDE community. KDE 
4.2 is the next major release in the KDE 4 series.

<unquote>

<quote from kubuntu.com"


    KDE 4.2 Released <http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2>

Submitted on Tue, 2009-01-27

KDE 4.2 has been released. Users of our development Jaunty version can 
do a full upgrade to get the latest packages. Packages for 8.10 
(Intrepid) are in the kubuntu-experimental PPA.

<unquote>

Why they put the new KDE in PPA is beyond me but they did. Just because 
it's there instead of somewhere else doesn't mean it's not going to 
"make it to 8.10". It _IS_ the KDE 4.2 release that's there. It's not a 
beta or an rc.

KDE 4.2 is the default in 9.04.





From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan 30 00:49:22 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:49:22 -0400
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com> <497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>
	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>
	<497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com> <20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>
	<glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org> <1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>
	<4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net> <m3t956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<a7f8874a0901291624u42e3d9b7hd766e68f4c866bff@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <jdv956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Hans Henry von Tresckow wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Derek Broughton <derek at pointerstop.ca>
> wrote:

>> Far more interesting is the question of whether 9.04 is ever going to
>> have 4.2 - it's supposed to, but I'm not sure it'll make it in the end.
>>
> 
> Check here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
> It looks like the 4.2 Packages are in the regular 9.04(Jaunty) feeds.
> 
But note that 4.1 was release without kde-pim - I just worry that it will, 
again, not really be the whole "shebang".  I hope I'm just a pessimist...






From derek at pointerstop.ca  Fri Jan 30 01:10:12 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:10:12 -0400
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com> <497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>
	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>
	<497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com> <20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>
	<glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org> <1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>
	<4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net> <m3t956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<49824EC1.9030805@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <kk0a56-l29.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Billie Erin Walsh wrote:

> Derek Broughton wrote:
>>
>> Far more interesting is the question of whether 9.04 is ever going to
>> have 4.2 - it's supposed to, but I'm not sure it'll make it in the end.
> 
> The answer is "Yes".
> 
> <quote from kde.org>
> 
> *KDE 4.2.0 released <http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/index.php>*
> On 27th January 2009, KDE 4.2.0 was released by the KDE community. KDE
> 4.2 is the next major release in the KDE 4 series.
> 
> <unquote>

That is, as it says, a quote from KDE.org, and completely unrelated to what 
Kubuntu is doing.

> 
> <quote from kubuntu.com"
> 
>     KDE 4.2 Released <http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2>
> 
> Submitted on Tue, 2009-01-27
> 
> KDE 4.2 has been released. Users of our development Jaunty version can
> do a full upgrade to get the latest packages. Packages for 8.10
> (Intrepid) are in the kubuntu-experimental PPA.
> 
> <unquote>
> 
> Why they put the new KDE in PPA is beyond me but they did. Just because
> it's there instead of somewhere else doesn't mean it's not going to
> "make it to 8.10". 

Yes, it does.  It's in the PPA _specifically_ because it will NEVER be part 
of an official 8.10 release.  That's what PPAs are for.

> It _IS_ the KDE 4.2 release that's there. It's not a
> beta or an rc.

LOL.  Like 4.1 wasn't....

> KDE 4.2 is the default in 9.04.

But is it?  Are you promising me that huge and significant parts of the KDE 
arsenal won't still be at 4.1 (or worse)?  As kde-pim was not at 4.1 when 
8.10 was released?  I doubt you can make that promise.





From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 30 01:53:21 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:53:21 -0500
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901291309u76ac1ee3s818ab658f1bab1d9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com>
	<b8d784880901291309u76ac1ee3s818ab658f1bab1d9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901292053.21933.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

On Thursday 29 January 2009 4:09:03 pm Jonas Norlander wrote:
> 2009/1/23 Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>:
> > I hope you find this helpful, and if you know of any cute tab-completion
> > tricks please let us know.  If you use the command-line a lot, you'll
> > find that pressing the tab key becomes instinctive and you'll really
> > miss it when you are in a program that doesn't use it.
> >
> > Paul
>
> One thing i use all the time with bash is the command history and the
> readline shortcuts. So here is some of my most used shortcuts.
> Arrow up or CTRL+P will fetch the previous command from the history.
> Arrow down or CTRL+N will fetch the next command from the history.
> CTRL+R will reverse search history for what ever you enter. Greate for
> fetching that complicated command you wrote some days ago but dont
> remember.
> CTRL+A move to beginning of line.
> CTRL+E move to end of line.
> ALT+F move forward a word.
> ALT+B move back a word.
> CTRL+L clear screen.
> CTRL+k remove the text from the cursor to the end of the line.
> CTRL+X BACKSPACE remove text from the cursor to the beginning of the line.
> ALT+D delete a word forward.
> ALT+BACKSPACE delete a word backwards.
>
> And there is more shortcuts in the readline library like copy and
> paste that could help a lot when working in the shell.
>
> / Jonas

This wasn't directed to me, however, thanks.  I have saved it.  Now I just 
have to memorize and use it.

Steven





From amila.uoc at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 01:53:45 2009
From: amila.uoc at gmail.com (Amila Liyanaarachchi)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:23:45 +0530
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <kk0a56-l29.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com> <497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>
	<20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de> <glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao> <4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
	<m3t956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <49824EC1.9030805@swbell.net>
	<kk0a56-l29.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <266ff2be0901291753p10b56ac5pbb36149e08c137e6@mail.gmail.com>

Guys,

I followed the below steps to get it done,

<Quote from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 >

The updated packages for Kubuntu 8.10 are located in the Kubuntu
Experimental Software Personal Package Archive (PPA) repository. To
update to KDE 4.2, please follow these instructions:

 1. Remove the koffice-data-kde4 package if you have it installed. The
    current koffice2 packages in the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA are
    incompatible with the KDE 4.2 packages since they try to install
    icons to the same locations.
 2. Follow the Kubuntu Repository Guide
    <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu> to enable
    /Recommended Updates/ and add the following to your 'Third-Party
    Software' tab:
    deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
 3. You can add the package signing key with this command:
    gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 493B3065 && gpg
    --export -a 493B3065 | sudo apt-key add -
 4. Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should
    uninstall any plasmoids.
 5. You can now update any existing KDE 4 installation to the most
    recent version using the Adept Updater tool in your system tray.
 6. Now log out and press Alt + E to restart X. When you log in you
    will have KDE 4.2. Enjoy.


      <unquote>



During the installation adept prompted an error message saying some
thing like "changes can't be committed ..."
Then I press "OK" which was the only available option and Adept stop
the installation at the point saying "Update Complete".

Then I restarted, I don't have any GUI anymore :(
It try to start X, then end up saying "unable to find directory ...."

Is there anyway that I can fix this problem. Already tried "sudo
apt-get -f install" no success.
Do I have to reinstall the whole thing again ??

Second question is, after adding the "deb
http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" to
third party SW, adept started downloading the updates. Is there a way
which I can choose some updates instead of downloading everything. In
my case I noticed that adept is downloading MySql server which I
didn't have in my system and I don't want to have.

Appreciate any help.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Derek Broughton <derek at pointerstop.ca> wrote:
> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>
>> Derek Broughton wrote:
>>>
>>> Far more interesting is the question of whether 9.04 is ever going to
>>> have 4.2 - it's supposed to, but I'm not sure it'll make it in the end.
>>
>> The answer is "Yes".
>>
>> <quote from kde.org>
>>
>> *KDE 4.2.0 released <http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/index.php>*
>> On 27th January 2009, KDE 4.2.0 was released by the KDE community. KDE
>> 4.2 is the next major release in the KDE 4 series.
>>
>> <unquote>
>
> That is, as it says, a quote from KDE.org, and completely unrelated to what
> Kubuntu is doing.
>
>>
>> <quote from kubuntu.com"
>>
>>     KDE 4.2 Released <http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2>
>>
>> Submitted on Tue, 2009-01-27
>>
>> KDE 4.2 has been released. Users of our development Jaunty version can
>> do a full upgrade to get the latest packages. Packages for 8.10
>> (Intrepid) are in the kubuntu-experimental PPA.
>>
>> <unquote>
>>
>> Why they put the new KDE in PPA is beyond me but they did. Just because
>> it's there instead of somewhere else doesn't mean it's not going to
>> "make it to 8.10".
>
> Yes, it does.  It's in the PPA _specifically_ because it will NEVER be part
> of an official 8.10 release.  That's what PPAs are for.
>
>> It _IS_ the KDE 4.2 release that's there. It's not a
>> beta or an rc.
>
> LOL.  Like 4.1 wasn't....
>
>> KDE 4.2 is the default in 9.04.
>
> But is it?  Are you promising me that huge and significant parts of the KDE
> arsenal won't still be at 4.1 (or worse)?  As kde-pim was not at 4.1 when
> 8.10 was released?  I doubt you can make that promise.
>
>
>
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>



From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Fri Jan 30 01:56:02 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:56:02 -0600
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <kk0a56-l29.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com>
	<497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>	<497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>
	<20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>	<glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>	<4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
	<m3t956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<49824EC1.9030805@swbell.net>
	<kk0a56-l29.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <49825E32.7080605@swbell.net>

Derek Broughton wrote:
> Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>
>   
>> Derek Broughton wrote:
>>     
>>> Far more interesting is the question of whether 9.04 is ever going to
>>> have 4.2 - it's supposed to, but I'm not sure it'll make it in the end.
>>>       
>> The answer is "Yes".
>>
>> <quote from kde.org>
>>
>> *KDE 4.2.0 released <http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/index.php>*
>> On 27th January 2009, KDE 4.2.0 was released by the KDE community. KDE
>> 4.2 is the next major release in the KDE 4 series.
>>
>> <unquote>
>>     
>
> That is, as it says, a quote from KDE.org, and completely unrelated to what 
> Kubuntu is doing.
>
>   
>> <quote from kubuntu.com"
>>
>>     KDE 4.2 Released <http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2>
>>
>> Submitted on Tue, 2009-01-27
>>
>> KDE 4.2 has been released. Users of our development Jaunty version can
>> do a full upgrade to get the latest packages. Packages for 8.10
>> (Intrepid) are in the kubuntu-experimental PPA.
>>
>> <unquote>
>>
>> Why they put the new KDE in PPA is beyond me but they did. Just because
>> it's there instead of somewhere else doesn't mean it's not going to
>> "make it to 8.10". 
>>     
>
> Yes, it does.  It's in the PPA _specifically_ because it will NEVER be part 
> of an official 8.10 release.  That's what PPAs are for.
>   

I'm no expert, but someone else already pointed out that by Ubuntu 
policy 4.2 cannot be the "official" KDE in Kubuntu 8.10. The "official" 
KDE in 8.10 is now, and forever will be, 4.1.x.

>   
>> It _IS_ the KDE 4.2 release that's there. It's not a
>> beta or an rc.
>>     
>
> LOL.  Like 4.1 wasn't....
>   

4.0 was in fact more like a beta or possibly an "rc" rushed to "release" 
because of some major distro's update schedule. I think most people 
agree with that opinion. Now I'm no power user but 4.1 seemed to me to 
be "ok", not great, just "ok". I've only had 4.2 for a couple days now 
but so far it's doing well. I like a _LOT_ of the stuff better than 4.1. 
So far it seems to be complete from/for my use. Is it "great"? Ask me 
again about the release time for 9.10. Of course by then it will be 
9.04/KDE 4.2 and not 8.10/KDE 4.2. I'd be willing to bet that by 4.5.x 
it will be great. At least they about all the bugs out of three by then.

>   
>> KDE 4.2 is the default in 9.04.
>>     
>
> But is it?  Are you promising me that huge and significant parts of the KDE 
> arsenal won't still be at 4.1 (or worse)?  As kde-pim was not at 4.1 when 
> 8.10 was released?  I doubt you can make that promise.

I'm not on the team and I'm not in charge. I can't even "promise" there 
will be a Kubuntu 9.04 release. BUT, I'll tell you what. I'll bet you a 
buck that KDE 4.2 is the default in 9.04.



From amila.uoc at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 01:58:03 2009
From: amila.uoc at gmail.com (Amila Liyanaarachchi)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:28:03 +0530
Subject: Upgrade KDE to 4.2
In-Reply-To: <20090128225033.a71c6bd5.claydoh@midmaine.com>
References: <266ff2be0901281916k5f9e072fx9b3d2cdac981a672@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090128225033.a71c6bd5.claydoh@midmaine.com>
Message-ID: <266ff2be0901291758s7096930kdbb29ffd94b71a61@mail.gmail.com>

I already added this to the list, since I started this thread I wanted
to mention it here as well,

Guys,

I followed the below steps to get it done,

<Quote from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 >

The updated packages for Kubuntu 8.10 are located in the Kubuntu
Experimental Software Personal Package Archive (PPA) repository. To
update to KDE 4.2, please follow these instructions:

 1. Remove the koffice-data-kde4 package if you have it installed. The
   current koffice2 packages in the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA are
   incompatible with the KDE 4.2 packages since they try to install
   icons to the same locations.
 2. Follow the Kubuntu Repository Guide
   <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu> to enable
   /Recommended Updates/ and add the following to your 'Third-Party
   Software' tab:
   deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
 3. You can add the package signing key with this command:
   gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 493B3065 && gpg
   --export -a 493B3065 | sudo apt-key add -
 4. Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should
   uninstall any plasmoids.
 5. You can now update any existing KDE 4 installation to the most
   recent version using the Adept Updater tool in your system tray.
 6. Now log out and press Alt + E to restart X. When you log in you
   will have KDE 4.2. Enjoy.


     <unquote>



During the installation adept prompted an error message saying some
thing like "changes can't be committed ..."
Then I press "OK" which was the only available option and Adept stop
the installation at the point saying "Update Complete".

Then I restarted, I don't have any GUI anymore :(
It try to start X, then end up saying "unable to find directory ...."

Is there anyway that I can fix this problem. Already tried "sudo
apt-get -f install" no success.
Do I have to reinstall the whole thing again ??

Second question is, after adding the "deb
http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" to
third party SW, adept started downloading the updates. Is there a way
which I can choose some updates instead of downloading everything. In
my case I noticed that adept is downloading MySql server which I
didn't have in my system and I don't want to have. During the failed
installation it prompted for the root password for mysql as well.

Appreciate any help.



From doc.evans at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 03:08:24 2009
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:08:24 -0700
Subject: choppy .mov in kaffeine
In-Reply-To: <200901291826.29584.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901181321.58034.d.mcglone@att.net> <49821A2F.3000107@gmail.com>
	<200901291826.29584.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <49826F28.4040705@gmail.com>

David McGlone said the following at 01/29/2009 04:26 PM :

> 
> I sure hope it don't take a year. 
> 

I'm not sure whether I was being pessimistic or realistic. The way that the
desire for eye candy (otherwise knows as huge menus and icons) and
fancy-dancy new software frameworks seems to have taken over the KDE
project doesn't leave me sanguine about the important stuff being brought
back to the stability and usability level of KDE 3.5.10 anytime soon, I'm
afraid.

I hope very much that I'm proved wrong. In the meantime I sure do miss even
the limited desktop search in 8.04, a nice comfortable Konqueror (that
amongst other things had real file sizes in it, and knew about file
properties), a usable ksysguard and any number of other niceties :-(

Maybe jaunty will be better.

  Doc

-- 
Web:  http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR

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From godshatter at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 30 06:30:06 2009
From: godshatter at yahoo.com (Paul Rumelhart)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:30:06 -0800
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901291309u76ac1ee3s818ab658f1bab1d9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com>
	<b8d784880901291309u76ac1ee3s818ab658f1bab1d9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49829E6E.6030004@yahoo.com>

Jonas Norlander wrote:
> 2009/1/23 Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>:
>   
>> I hope you find this helpful, and if you know of any cute tab-completion
>> tricks please let us know.  If you use the command-line a lot, you'll
>> find that pressing the tab key becomes instinctive and you'll really
>> miss it when you are in a program that doesn't use it.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>     
>
> One thing i use all the time with bash is the command history and the
> readline shortcuts. So here is some of my most used shortcuts.
> Arrow up or CTRL+P will fetch the previous command from the history.
> Arrow down or CTRL+N will fetch the next command from the history.
> CTRL+R will reverse search history for what ever you enter. Greate for
> fetching that complicated command you wrote some days ago but dont
> remember.
> CTRL+A move to beginning of line.
> CTRL+E move to end of line.
> ALT+F move forward a word.
> ALT+B move back a word.
> CTRL+L clear screen.
> CTRL+k remove the text from the cursor to the end of the line.
> CTRL+X BACKSPACE remove text from the cursor to the beginning of the line.
> ALT+D delete a word forward.
> ALT+BACKSPACE delete a word backwards.
>
> And there is more shortcuts in the readline library like copy and
> paste that could help a lot when working in the shell.
>
> / Jonas
>
>   

I didn't know about most of those.  I'd used arrow up and down before, 
but not the others.  Thank you.

Paul




From girardhenri at free.fr  Fri Jan 30 07:54:21 2009
From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:54:21 +0100
Subject: kde4.2
In-Reply-To: <49824EC1.9030805@swbell.net>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com> <497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>
	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>	<497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>
	<20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>	<glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>	<4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
	<m3t956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>  <49824EC1.9030805@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <1233302061.6570.3.camel@tao>

I compiled kdevelop4 and k3b and they work as they should do :)
i hope there will be soon an only kubuntu kde4.2 because i don't like to
install first ubuntu then kde4.2 as i don't use gnome much :)
Jaunty is still in alpha and my ATI xpress doesn't work well with it :)
the drivers are added but i can't get composite working.

thanks all for this good job 






From kap4lin at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 09:27:13 2009
From: kap4lin at gmail.com (P Kapat)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:27:13 -0500
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <49823620.40001@ajinfosearch.com>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<200901290820.05018.jerryg@gaiser.org>
	<200901290908.18020.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<49823620.40001@ajinfosearch.com>
Message-ID: <daef5be80901300127n1e8e655frd609a967529e10c0@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/29/09, Alan Dacey <GrokIt at ajinfosearch.com> wrote:
> Pastor JW wrote:
>> On Thursday 29 January 2009 8:20:04 am Jerry Gaiser wrote:
>>> On Thursday 29 January 2009 08:08, Pastor JW wrote:
>>>> Anyone have any idea what happened to the medibuntu repositories for
>>>> hardy? I don't find anything at their address at all using
>>>> http://www.medibuntu.org Is this the wrong address now?  Seemed to have
>>>> quit a couple days ago according to my Update Manager.
>>> Works fine out here in Oregon
>>
>> All right, it must be my ISP's DNS servers then.  none of my browsers will
>> go
>> there.  they all come back with "Unknown host www.medibuntu.org"'  I'm
>> located not so far from Oregon, about 6 miles!  I live in Walla Walla.  I
>> went checking cause my Update Manager came back saying, "last updated 43
>> hours ago" yet there was few updates this morning anyway.  I found it to
>> be
>> the medibuntu one which was not updating so was trying to find out why.
>> Thanks for the info.
>
> Replace the "www" with "packages" - it's http://packages.medibuntu.org
> I just went into the hardy packages from firefox in New Jersey.
>
> Alan

If you look at this place:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
All the wgets give you files containing the following (similarly for
GG,II,JJ) repos

deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free

And yes, hardy packages can be manually downloaded, so they are there....
-- 
Regards
PK
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From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Fri Jan 30 09:52:57 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:52:57 -0500
Subject: Upgrade KDE to 4.2
In-Reply-To: <266ff2be0901291758s7096930kdbb29ffd94b71a61@mail.gmail.com>
References: <266ff2be0901281916k5f9e072fx9b3d2cdac981a672@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090128225033.a71c6bd5.claydoh@midmaine.com>
	<266ff2be0901291758s7096930kdbb29ffd94b71a61@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901300452.57733.pkaplan1@comcast.net>

Can you start another window manager like icewm from the CL?

startx /user/bin/icewm -- :1

(Use the -- :1 extension only if kdm is running, and you might need to install 
ice first using sudo apt-get install icewm)

If that all works then only kde is messed up.

I found that even with apt-get or adept, I still had to install kdebase-
workspace-bin separately

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-bin
sudo apt-get upgrade

If any packages are held back you can install/upgrade individually after 4.2 
is running.

good luck
Paul


On Thursday 29 January 2009 20:58:03 Amila Liyanaarachchi wrote:
> I already added this to the list, since I started this thread I wanted
> to mention it here as well,
>
> Guys,
>
> I followed the below steps to get it done,
>
> <Quote from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 >
>
> The updated packages for Kubuntu 8.10 are located in the Kubuntu
> Experimental Software Personal Package Archive (PPA) repository. To
> update to KDE 4.2, please follow these instructions:
>
>  1. Remove the koffice-data-kde4 package if you have it installed. The
>    current koffice2 packages in the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA are
>    incompatible with the KDE 4.2 packages since they try to install
>    icons to the same locations.
>  2. Follow the Kubuntu Repository Guide
>    <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu> to enable
>    /Recommended Updates/ and add the following to your 'Third-Party
>    Software' tab:
>    deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
>  3. You can add the package signing key with this command:
>    gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 493B3065 && gpg
>    --export -a 493B3065 | sudo apt-key add -
>  4. Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should
>    uninstall any plasmoids.
>  5. You can now update any existing KDE 4 installation to the most
>    recent version using the Adept Updater tool in your system tray.
>  6. Now log out and press Alt + E to restart X. When you log in you
>    will have KDE 4.2. Enjoy.
>
>
>      <unquote>
>
>
>
> During the installation adept prompted an error message saying some
> thing like "changes can't be committed ..."
> Then I press "OK" which was the only available option and Adept stop
> the installation at the point saying "Update Complete".
>
> Then I restarted, I don't have any GUI anymore :(
> It try to start X, then end up saying "unable to find directory ...."
>
> Is there anyway that I can fix this problem. Already tried "sudo
> apt-get -f install" no success.
> Do I have to reinstall the whole thing again ??
>
> Second question is, after adding the "deb
> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" to
> third party SW, adept started downloading the updates. Is there a way
> which I can choose some updates instead of downloading everything. In
> my case I noticed that adept is downloading MySql server which I
> didn't have in my system and I don't want to have. During the failed
> installation it prompted for the root password for mysql as well.
>
> Appreciate any help.




From jonorland at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 09:55:02 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:55:02 +0100
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
In-Reply-To: <9gs956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com>
	<b8d784880901291309u76ac1ee3s818ab658f1bab1d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<9gs956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901300155s2c35fb41v60de248d141a8acd@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/30 Derek Broughton <derek at pointerstop.ca>:
> Jonas Norlander wrote:
>
>> CTRL+A move to beginning of line.
>
> I'd completely forgotten that I used to do that, because HOME usually does
> the job, now
>> CTRL+E move to end of line.
>
> END
>
>> ALT+F move forward a word.
>
> CTRL-RIGHT (except I buggered that by following somebody else's advice, and
> haven't got around to fixing it, so it's nice to see that ALT-F and ALT-B
> still work)
>
>> ALT+B move back a word.
>
> CTRL-LEFT
>
>> CTRL+L clear screen.
>> CTRL+k remove the text from the cursor to the end of the line.
>
> hmmm.  Never did know that one...
>
>> CTRL+X BACKSPACE remove text from the cursor to the beginning of the line.
>
> ctrl-U
>
>> ALT+D delete a word forward.
>> ALT+BACKSPACE delete a word backwards.
>
> Ctrl-W
>
> As, always with Linux, there's more than one way to do anything :-)
>

I think it's something difference with ctrl-u and ctrl-w and checking
the manual gives that the deleted text is saved to the "kill-ring".
Copied from the manual:

backward-kill-line (C-x Rubout)
              Kill backward to the beginning of the line.
unix-line-discard (C-u)
              Kill backward from point to the beginning of the line.
The killed text is saved on the kill-ring.
backward-kill-word (M-Rubout)
              Kill the word behind point.  Word boundaries are the
same as those used by backward-word.
unix-word-rubout (C-w)
              Kill the word behind point, using white space as a word
boundary.  The killed text is saved on the kill-ring.

Could be useful if one learn how to use it. Sometimes i think there is
to many ways to do one thing in Linux but on the other hand thats
probably  what make its so fascinating.

/ Jonas



From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Fri Jan 30 09:58:44 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:58:44 -0500
Subject: shutdown service menu in kde 4.2
Message-ID: <200901300458.44377.pkaplan1@comcast.net>

After upgrading 8.10 to kde 4.2, I find that right clicking on the desktop no 
longer provides options to shutdown in the context menu.

Also, even though "Offer Shutdown Options" is checked in the session manager 
control module, I only get presented with the default shutdown option (in my 
case, turn off computer), I don't see all three options.

Is this a bug or an issue with the ppa versions of kde?  Is there a fix?

Paul



From kap4lin at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 09:59:43 2009
From: kap4lin at gmail.com (P Kapat)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:59:43 -0500
Subject: Upgrade KDE to 4.2
In-Reply-To: <266ff2be0901291758s7096930kdbb29ffd94b71a61@mail.gmail.com>
References: <266ff2be0901281916k5f9e072fx9b3d2cdac981a672@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090128225033.a71c6bd5.claydoh@midmaine.com>
	<266ff2be0901291758s7096930kdbb29ffd94b71a61@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <daef5be80901300159nfa3a711g16c2ab4b9bb0bea7@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/29/09, Amila Liyanaarachchi <amila.uoc at gmail.com> wrote:
> During the installation adept prompted an error message saying some
> thing like "changes can't be committed ..."
> Then I press "OK" which was the only available option and Adept stop
> the installation at the point saying "Update Complete".
>
> Then I restarted, I don't have any GUI anymore :(
> It try to start X, then end up saying "unable to find directory ...."
>
> Is there anyway that I can fix this problem. Already tried "sudo
> apt-get -f install" no success.
> Do I have to reinstall the whole thing again ??

Certainly not needed, but sometimes reinstalling might be less of a
pain than identifying the problem and THEN fixing it. If you have
nothing to backup/save/loose go ahead and reinstall. That will give
you a clean slate. Otherwise, go to a VT console and try to fix it.
Some typical tools that I use:

$ /etc/init.d/kdm stop

Then strip down the sources.list file to just the official repos
(commenting out everything else).  Make sure everything in
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/* has been commented. Then some trial an error
with the following

apt-get update
dpkg --configure -a
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get -f install

If any particular package is creating trouble, try to if you can purge it out

apt-get --purge remove <pkg>
...
...
sing and dance
...
...

BTW, if you use nvidia's driviers and the kernel version changes, then
you'll need to re-install the  nvidia driver - this is a typical
problem when using the binary from nvidia's site. You can look for
lines starting with (EE) in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

Many things can go wrong... From which Ubuntu/Kubuntu x.yz were you
trying to upgrade?

> Second question is, after adding the "deb
> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" to
> third party SW, adept started downloading the updates. Is there a way
> which I can choose some updates instead of downloading everything. In
> my case I noticed that adept is downloading MySql server which I
> didn't have in my system and I don't want to have. During the failed
> installation it prompted for the root password for mysql as well.

Selectively, updating is a bit tricky. I don't have a KDE 3 adept at
hand so I can't help. KDE 4's adept provides an option to "uncheck"
the Upgrade for a package. The thumb rule is  - (though not always
true) a package is downloaded/installed because it is needed. As for
mysql root password, you can choose to keep it empty!! It is certainly
a security risk.

Selective updating is possible through apt-pinning in
/etc/apt/preferences file but that is another ball game. Another
similar option is dpkg --set-selection <pkg> hold.... Aptitude folks
might have some trick up their sleeve.

Good luck.
-- 
Regards
PK
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From kap4lin at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 10:07:36 2009
From: kap4lin at gmail.com (P Kapat)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:07:36 -0500
Subject: Shell tab-completion and other helpful command-line tricks
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901300155s2c35fb41v60de248d141a8acd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <497A2AF0.20003@yahoo.com>
	<b8d784880901291309u76ac1ee3s818ab658f1bab1d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<9gs956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<b8d784880901300155s2c35fb41v60de248d141a8acd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <daef5be80901300207i42eba1c6idac7b52f0c010c0d@mail.gmail.com>

CTRL +_   (undo == life saver) of simply CTRL+c

An interesting place: http://www.shell-fu.org/
-- 
Regards
PK
--------------------------------------
http://counter.li.org  #402424



From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Fri Jan 30 10:15:08 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:15:08 -0500
Subject: 4.2 LCD weather plasmoid
Message-ID: <200901300515.08772.pkaplan1@comcast.net>

After configuring the LCD weather plasmoid to an active US weather station, the 
data appear in the plasmoid window for a few seconds and then the plasmoid 
crashes, causes plasma to restart and resets all the desktop configuration 
settings to the 4.2 default.

Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a fix?  Can anyone suggest a good/better 
weather plasmoid for 4.2?
Paul




From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Fri Jan 30 10:15:54 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:15:54 -0500
Subject: konqueror 4.2 bug?
Message-ID: <200901300515.54258.pkaplan1@comcast.net>

I've had this problem at least 4.1 and always attributed it to the immaturity 
of kde4.

In konqueror toolbars, when I select the icon size to be "small icons", the 
change does not persist.  If I close konqueror and open a new instance, the 
icons are all set to "medium icons".

I have set System Settings > Appearance > Icons > Advanced > Toolbar & Main 
Toolbar to the smallest icon size (16).

Is there a way to force a save of the konqueror icon size?
Paul



From gkourtev at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 10:17:02 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:17:02 +0200
Subject: shutdown service menu in kde 4.2
In-Reply-To: <200901300458.44377.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
References: <200901300458.44377.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <200901301217.03196.gkourtev@gmail.com>


On Friday 30 January 2009 11:58:44 Paul Kaplan wrote:
> After upgrading 8.10 to kde 4.2, I find that right clicking on the desktop
> no longer provides options to shutdown in the context menu.
>
> Also, even though "Offer Shutdown Options" is checked in the session
> manager control module, I only get presented with the default shutdown
> option (in my case, turn off computer), I don't see all three options.
>
> Is this a bug or an issue with the ppa versions of kde?  Is there a fix?
>
> Paul

It works fine with me. I';m with Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.2.
gk
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From Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de  Fri Jan 30 10:30:28 2009
From: Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de (Michael Zoet)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:30:28 +0100
Subject: shutdown service menu in kde 4.2
In-Reply-To: <200901301217.03196.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901300458.44377.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
	<200901301217.03196.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4982D6C4.6030305@michaelzoet.de>

Georgi Kourtev schrieb:
>
>
> On Friday 30 January 2009 11:58:44 Paul Kaplan wrote:
> > After upgrading 8.10 to kde 4.2, I find that right clicking on the
> desktop
> > no longer provides options to shutdown in the context menu.
> >
> > Also, even though "Offer Shutdown Options" is checked in the session
> > manager control module, I only get presented with the default shutdown
> > option (in my case, turn off computer), I don't see all three options.
> >
> > Is this a bug or an issue with the ppa versions of kde? Is there a fix?
> >
> > Paul
>
>
> It works fine with me. I';m with Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.2.
> gk
fro me too!


Michael



From basroufs at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 10:34:01 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:34:01 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32 
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>
	<ac06429e0901291051g4690ef48hfff831ac57b3ae3@mail.gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901291143k5f2fafdar3c0931aef98233ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901300234w1f0aed4eo5a763cf2ce1e8a96@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Ulrich and everybody


>> There is only one device here with an NTFS file system: the external
>> HD I am talking about. This implies that 'Mount Manager' can identify
>> it. But the 'mount point' is 'unknown'. Is there a way to manually
>> establish some 'mount point' ...(snip)

> you could look into /var/log/syslog

This morning, I plugged in the external HD at 09:48:07. This is what
the /var/log/syslog report tells about the first 6 seconds from that
moment onwards:

Jan 30 09:48:07 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1870.196035] usb 1-7: new high
speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
Jan 30 09:48:07 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1870.353942] usb 1-7:
configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Jan 30 09:48:07 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1870.398094] scsi3 : SCSI
emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
Jan 30 09:48:07 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1870.402249] usb-storage:
device found at 3
Jan 30 09:48:07 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1870.402261] usb-storage:
waiting for device to settle before scanning
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.400265] usb-storage:
device scan complete
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.401127] scsi 3:0:0:0:
Direct-Access     ST350063 0A               3.AA PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.416682] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
976773169 512-byte hardware sectors (500108 MB)
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.417870] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
Write Protect is off
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.417880] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.417883] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
Assuming drive cache: write through
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.419365] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
976773169 512-byte hardware sectors (500108 MB)
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.420562] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
Write Protect is off
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.420572] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.420576] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
Assuming drive cache: write through
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.421243]  sdg: sdg1 sdg2
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.450611] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
Attached SCSI disk
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.451218] sd 3:0:0:0:
Attached scsi generic sg7 type 0
Jan 30 09:48:13 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.836492] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
Sense Key : No Sense [current]
Jan 30 09:48:13 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.836505] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
Add. Sense: No additional sense information

So, the system does recognise the USB device, but the attempt to
access it still gets stuck somehow. At this moment (11:04), the USB
external HD device is still plugged in. However, the syslog report
only produces now only 'no sense' and 'no additional sense' feedback
like the two last lines above this alinea.

> .... /var/log/messages
Jan 30 09:37:19 Viaconsensus1 -- MARK --
Jan 30 09:48:07 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1870.196035] usb 1-7: new high
speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
Jan 30 09:48:07 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1870.353942] usb 1-7:
configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Jan 30 09:48:07 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1870.398094] scsi3 : SCSI
emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.401127] scsi 3:0:0:0:
Direct-Access     ST350063 0A               3.AA PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.416682] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
976773169 512-byte hardware sectors (500108 MB)
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.417870] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
Write Protect is off
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.419365] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
976773169 512-byte hardware sectors (500108 MB)
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.420562] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
Write Protect is off
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.421243]  sdg: sdg1 sdg2
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.450611] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
Attached SCSI disk
Jan 30 09:48:12 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.451218] sd 3:0:0:0:
Attached scsi generic sg7 type 0
Jan 30 09:48:13 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.836492] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
Sense Key : No Sense [current]
Jan 30 09:48:13 Viaconsensus1 kernel: [ 1875.836505] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdg]
Add. Sense: No additional sense information

Like in .../syslog, also the feedback in the rest of .../messages
after 09:48:13 only consists of the last 2 lines above this alinea: so
the 'no sense' and 'no additional sense' feedback.

> ..../var/log/dmesg)
Most of this file consists of that 'no sense' and 'no additional
sense' feedback, like in the other 2 files. No specific info found on
the USB external HD.

I hope this information can give a clue enabling someone to provide me
with some key to solve the still not solved problem with respect to
the non-accessible USB device. Is there any special software package
that could help in this context - something meant to recognise
external hard disks with NTFS and FAT 032 configurations -  similar to
the Digikam packages enabling Kubuntu 8.10 to recognise a camera?

Thx. for your feedback. Respectfully yours,

Bas.

-- 
===============
Viaconsensus
Bas G. Roufs M.A.
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
===============



From Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de  Fri Jan 30 10:56:24 2009
From: Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de (Michael Zoet)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:56:24 +0100
Subject: Upgrade KDE to 4.2
In-Reply-To: <daef5be80901300159nfa3a711g16c2ab4b9bb0bea7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <266ff2be0901281916k5f9e072fx9b3d2cdac981a672@mail.gmail.com>	<20090128225033.a71c6bd5.claydoh@midmaine.com>	<266ff2be0901291758s7096930kdbb29ffd94b71a61@mail.gmail.com>
	<daef5be80901300159nfa3a711g16c2ab4b9bb0bea7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4982DCD8.40809@michaelzoet.de>

P Kapat schrieb:
> On 1/29/09, Amila Liyanaarachchi <amila.uoc at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> ...
>>     
>
> Certainly not needed, but sometimes reinstalling might be less of a
> pain than identifying the problem and THEN fixing it.
If you know where to look and what to do you do not need to reinstall.
But you have to be familiar with the command line.

I installed KDE 4.2 a few days ago and the package system got srewed up.
Not because of KDE 4.2 but because I have so much software installed and
I got package dependency problems. What I did: deinstalled all KDE
packages and the reinstalled KDE 4.2. After that every thing worked and
I do not had to reinstall the whole system. I did this with dselect on
the command line. dselect is a software that is not recommended anymore
and you can use aptitude instead. You only have to learn how to use
aptitude.
 

> ...
> If any particular package is creating trouble, try to if you can purge it out
>
> apt-get --purge remove <pkg>
>   
Trying to deinstall the packages, that causes trouble, is worth a try. I
had some difficulties with deinstalling particular KDE packages, so I
deinstalled (and purged) every KDE package...
> ...
> ...
> sing and dance
> ...
> ...
>
> BTW, if you use nvidia's driviers and the kernel version changes, then
> you'll need to re-install the  nvidia driver - this is a typical
> problem when using the binary from nvidia's site. You can look for
> lines starting with (EE) in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
>   
If you use the NVIDIA package provide by Ubuntu, this should not be a
problem.
> Many things can go wrong...
For sure ;-).
>  
>> Second question is, after adding the "deb
>> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" to
>> third party SW, adept started downloading the updates. Is there a way
>> which I can choose some updates instead of downloading everything. In
>> my case I noticed that adept is downloading MySql server which I
>> didn't have in my system and I don't want to have. During the failed
>> installation it prompted for the root password for mysql as well.
>>     
>
>   
The MYSQL server is needed by KDE in the future. Some KDE programs and
libraries need it and they depend on it. You can deinstall MySQL and
every KDE package that needs MySQL. But it will be some time in the
futuer where more and more KDE applications might need a local running
MySQL server. And so you have to decide what you want... This dependency
of MySQL with future KDE is something I really do not understand... But
for now I know no way to change this.

> Selectively, updating is a bit tricky.
I would not selectively update a system! This can break a lot of things.
What you can do is setting some packages on hold. This means packages
that are on hold will never get updated. But you should only use it if
you know what you are doing. And only on a small amount of packages.
Setting the whole KDE packages on hold might get you more trouble than
it is worth! KDE has really a lot of dependencies.
>
> Selective updating is possible through apt-pinning in
> /etc/apt/preferences file but that is another ball game. Another
> similar option is dpkg --set-selection <pkg> hold.... Aptitude folks
> might have some trick up their sleeve.
>   
As mentioned above I would not recommend this unless you know what you
are doing and you know how things work in the Ubuntu/Debian package pool.

Michael



From kaj at haulrich.net  Fri Jan 30 11:54:21 2009
From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:54:21 +0100
Subject: shutdown service menu in kde 4.2
In-Reply-To: <4982D6C4.6030305@michaelzoet.de>
References: <200901300458.44377.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
	<200901301217.03196.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<4982D6C4.6030305@michaelzoet.de>
Message-ID: <200901301254.21992.kaj@haulrich.net>

On Friday 30 January 2009 11:30:28 Michael Zoet wrote:
> Georgi Kourtev schrieb:
> > On Friday 30 January 2009 11:58:44 Paul Kaplan wrote:
> > > After upgrading 8.10 to kde 4.2, I find that right clicking
> > > on the
> >
> > desktop
> >
> > > no longer provides options to shutdown in the context menu.
> > >
> > > Also, even though "Offer Shutdown Options" is checked in the
> > > session manager control module, I only get presented with the
> > > default shutdown option (in my case, turn off computer), I
> > > don't see all three options.
> > >
> > > Is this a bug or an issue with the ppa versions of kde? Is
> > > there a fix?
> > >
> > > Paul
> >
> > It works fine with me. I';m with Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.2.
> > gk
>
> fro me too!

I think it depends on the settings. Right click 'Appearance 
settings' on the desktop background and change from 'folder view' to 
'Desktop'. Then the context menu changes and will give you the 
'Leave' option back.

HTH

Kaj Haulrich.
-- 
*** Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer ***
********* Running Linux Kubuntu 8.10 *********




From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 12:15:38 2009
From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?=)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:15:38 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901300234w1f0aed4eo5a763cf2ce1e8a96@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901300234w1f0aed4eo5a763cf2ce1e8a96@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>

Am Freitag, 30. Januar 2009 11:34:01 schrieb Bas Roufs:
> Most of this file consists of that 'no sense' and 'no additional
> sense' feedback, like in the other 2 files. No specific info found on
> the USB external HD.


Hmm, I can't figure out about this 'no sense'  and 'no additional  sense'  feedback. 
On my external HD, I receive sense information consisting of numbers. 
What happens if you try to mount the FAT partition with 'mount /dev/sdg2 /mnt/test -t 
vfat' (to do this, you must first create /mnt/test).

It will probably not work, but it then produces some error messages . .

-- 
Love and Light,
Ulrich
¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø
  " Can't talk to you without talking to me; we're guilty of the same old thing.
        Thinking a lot about less and less, and forgetting the love we bring "
                                     [Grateful Dead, in: 'Althea']
¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø
OS: Kubuntu 8.10 (Linux)        de.geocities.com/india_ulrich/Philosophie.html



From basroufs at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 12:47:07 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:47:07 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32 
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901300234w1f0aed4eo5a763cf2ce1e8a96@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901300447w563a1376heb08e2a0d6bd979a@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Ulrich and others

Before carrying out the test suggested by you,......
>....first create /mnt/test
Pls. briefly explain how: via terminal> kdesudo kate > ....?

Thx.!

Bas.



-- 
===============
Viaconsensus
Bas G. Roufs M.A.
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
===============



From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 13:53:24 2009
From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?=)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:53:24 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901300447w563a1376heb08e2a0d6bd979a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901300447w563a1376heb08e2a0d6bd979a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901301453.25118.Ulrich.gruen@googlemail.com>

Am Freitag, 30. Januar 2009 13:47:07 schrieb Bas Roufs:
> Hello Ulrich and others
>
> Before carrying out the test suggested by you,......
>
> >....first create /mnt/test
>
> Pls. briefly explain how: via terminal> kdesudo kate > ....?

'sudo mkdir /mnt/test' in een terminal.

-- 
Love and Light,
Ulrich
¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø
  " Can't talk to you without talking to me; we're guilty of the same old thing.
        Thinking a lot about less and less, and forgetting the love we bring "
                                     [Grateful Dead, in: 'Althea']
¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø
OS: Kubuntu 8.10 (Linux)        de.geocities.com/india_ulrich/Philosophie.html

From basroufs at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 14:01:59 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:01:59 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32 
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901300234w1f0aed4eo5a763cf2ce1e8a96@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901300601t4d0684fbw2d11cca64636e2fb@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Ulrich and everybody

> you must first create /mnt/test
Not yet knowing whether this is right, I created a subdirectory
'/test' in the directory /mnt. Then, I carried out the test suggested
by you as follows:

bas at Viaconsensus1:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdg2 /mnt/test -t vfat

This resulted in this feedback:

mount: special device /dev/sdg2 does not exist

Then, I deleted the subdirectory /mnt/test and via kdsesudo kate
created a script 'test' in the directory mnt. Afterwords I carried out
the same test ...sudo mount ..etc. This only resulted in the feedback
'command not found'. Apparently, creating a the subdirectory had more
sense than creating the script. So, I deleted the script and recreated
the /test subdirectory via sudo mc.

Than, I tried to access the NTFS partition of the external HD, as follows:
bas at Viaconsensus1:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdg2 /mnt/test -t ntfs
ntfs-3g: Failed to access volume '/dev/sdg2': No such file or directory
Please type '/sbin/mount.ntfs --help' for more information.

Than I deleted again the /test subdirectory in /mnt and recreated it
via the terminal command sudo mkdir /mnt/test. I carried out the vfat
and ntfs tests explained above. The results were exactly the same.

So, no external HD access yet....

Respectfully yours,

Bas.




However it may be, I did not yet manage to mount the









> It will probably not work, but it then produces some error messages . .
>
> --
> Love and Light,
> Ulrich
> ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø
>  " Can't talk to you without talking to me; we're guilty of the same old thing.
>        Thinking a lot about less and less, and forgetting the love we bring "
>                                     [Grateful Dead, in: 'Althea']
> ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø
> OS: Kubuntu 8.10 (Linux)        de.geocities.com/india_ulrich/Philosophie.html
>
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Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
===============



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Fri Jan 30 15:32:18 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:32:18 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901300601t4d0684fbw2d11cca64636e2fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>	<200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>	<c638edc20901300234w1f0aed4eo5a763cf2ce1e8a96@mail.gmail.com>	<200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901300601t4d0684fbw2d11cca64636e2fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <glv6i1$41q$1@ger.gmane.org>

Bas Roufs wrote:
> Hello Ulrich and everybody
> 
>> you must first create /mnt/test
> Not yet knowing whether this is right, I created a subdirectory
> '/test' in the directory /mnt. Then, I carried out the test suggested
> by you as follows:
> 
> bas at Viaconsensus1:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdg2 /mnt/test -t vfat
> 
> This resulted in this feedback:
> 
> mount: special device /dev/sdg2 does not exist
> 
Hi Bas,

you may create and subsequently delete your directory as long as you 
like. ;-))


However this is what you got:

 > mount: special device /dev/sdg2 does not exist

Imho this error message exactly means what it tells you:
your device does not exist.

In order to identify your device please do

sudo fdisk -l

in the last line(s) of this command's output, you should see the device 
name(s) for your ntfs drive and for your fat32 drive, respectively.

Then try to mount one or the other (only one at a time, then umount it 
before mounting the other) to your directory like this, assuming that 
/dev/sdb2 is your partition from fdisk -l

sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt

then please report back whether this works and if not, what happened.

regards
Eberhard




From dhazin at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 17:29:08 2009
From: dhazin at gmail.com (Dmitry Hazin)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:29:08 +0600
Subject: kde 4.2 crashes on login, Ubuntu 8.10
In-Reply-To: <b8f0a5130901282038g4811e86apb4d4f9818730f93c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b8f0a5130901281107x76d54d66mf1159bbaed10a66a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1912990028.1373041233173603225.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<b8f0a5130901282038g4811e86apb4d4f9818730f93c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8f0a5130901300929g67e165f1n33d903098e284517@mail.gmail.com>

Here is my .xsession-errors:

Xsession: X session started for dhazin at Птн Янв 30 23:11:04 NOVT 2009
Setting IM through im-switch for locale=ru_RU.
Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to
/etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default.
/usr/bin/xmodmap:  unable to open file
'/usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap' for reading
/usr/bin/xmodmap:  1 error encountered, aborting.
kdostartupconfig4(7741) main: Running kdostartupconfig.
startkde: Starting up...
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/klauncher
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kded4
kded(7769): Communication problem with  "kded" , it probably crashed.
Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message
did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "

kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kcminit_startup
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/ksmserver
<unknown program name>(7767)/ KStartupInfo::createNewStartupId:
creating:  "dhazin;1233335466;389285;7767_TIME0" : "unnamed app"
startkde: Shutting down...
klauncher: Exiting on signal 1
startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
startkde: Done.

2009/1/29 Dmitry Hazin <dhazin at gmail.com>:
> yea, I think it's not a videodriver thing, gnome work just fine with
> compiz enabled with all versions of driver that I mentioned.
> I did removed ~/.kde before logging to kde first time; I even tried to
> remove all kde packages with 'completely remove' option, remove .kde
> dir from my home dir, then install kubuntu-desktop again.
> Unfortunately nothing changed :(
> Btw, what is the second icon on kde splash screen? after i hit enter
> on login screen, it shows kde splash screen (black bar in the middle
> of the screen) with harddrive icon for few seconds and after that
> crashes and returns back to login.
>
> 2009/1/29  <pkaplan1 at comcast.net>:
>> Assuming it's not a nvidia driver thing, have you renamed ~/.kde and let 4.2
>> build a new one for you.  I've seen this happen in prior version upgrades,
>> presumably due to incompatible config settings in the older directory.
>> Paul
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dmitry Hazin" <dhazin at gmail.com>
>> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:07:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: kde 4.2 crashes on login, Ubuntu 8.10
>>
>> Here is short description of my actions:
>>
>> 0. I have Ubuntu 8.10 with  nvidia 7600GS; problem persists with
>> 177.xx, 180.11 (from launchpad) and 180.25 drivers
>>
>> 1. I used following repository for kde 4.2:
>> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
>> multiverse restricted universe
>>
>> 2. Installed kubuntu-desktop, selected kdm as a default display manager
>>
>> 3. Reboot
>>
>> 4. Login to kde fails, there are following lines in syslog:
>>
>> Jan 29 00:33:05 dhazin kernel: [  464.893443] kded4[9823]: segfault at
>> 0 ip 48be08a5 sp bf8be9d0 error 4 in
>> libQtGui.so.4.4.3[48a34000+8f5000]
>> Jan 29 00:33:05 dhazin kernel: [  464.985041] kcminit_startup[9827]:
>> segfault at 0 ip 48be08a5 sp bfd74f90 error 4 in
>> libQtGui.so.4.4.3[48a34000+8f5000]
>> Jan 29 00:33:05 dhazin kernel: [  465.107018] ksmserver[9829]:
>> segfault at 0 ip 48be08a5 sp bfeb5fd0 error 4 in
>> libQtGui.so.4.4.3[48a34000+8f5000]
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this a known bug and can I do anything to workaround it? Should I
>> post bug report somewhere and if yes what information should I place
>> there?
>>
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From basroufs at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 17:39:28 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:39:28 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32 
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <glv6i1$41q$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901300234w1f0aed4eo5a763cf2ce1e8a96@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901300601t4d0684fbw2d11cca64636e2fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<glv6i1$41q$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901300939t1895a418s565e4e8c002bd56e@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Eberhard and Everybody

> In order to identify your device please do sudo fdisk -l

Thx. for this suggestion! But already in this stage, I get stuck. By
doing this command, I do manage I manage to correctly identify the two
hard disks built in my desktop PC: the 80 GB disk and the 160 GB one.
Even the NTFS file system of the windows partition at the 80 GB disk
is being recognised. Here are the details from the terminal:

bas at Viaconsensus1:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for bas:

Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x09590958

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1        3824    30716248+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2            3825        9729    47431912+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5            3825        9729    47431881    b  W95 FAT32

Disk /dev/sdb: 163.9 GB, 163928604672 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19929 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xadf256f8

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1               1        1992    16000708+  83  Linux
/dev/sdb2            1993       19929   144078952+   5  Extended
/dev/sdb5            1993        2116      995998+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb6            2117       10879    70388766   83  Linux
/dev/sdb7           10880       19554    69681906   83  Linux
/dev/sdb8           19555       19929     3012156   82  Linux swap / Solaris

I recognise perfectly well the configuration of the 80 GB SDA HD - the
one with a Windows partition and a special data partition, accessible
via both Windows and Linux. It also makes clear that both NTFS and
FAT32 partitions can be correctly recognised as such.

Also the SDB 180 GB schedule is a clear cut story for me - it
correctly charts the configuration consisting of Kubuntu 7.10 in one
partition and Kubuntu 8.10 at another one.

However, the external HD (/dev/sd?) is still an absolutely blank spot
on the Linux map :-).....

> in the last line(s) of this command's output, you should see the device
> name(s) for your ntfs drive and for your fat32 drive, respectively.
I wish you were right. But above you can see the harsh reality.....


> Then try to mount one or the other (only one at a time, then umount it
> before mounting the other) to your directory like this, assuming that
> /dev/sdb2 is your partition from fdisk -l

As you can see above, "/dev/sdb2" is simply one of the partitions at
the 180 GB inbuilt HD, "/dev/sdb". So, I carried out this terminal
command:

bas at Viaconsensus1:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdc2 /mnt

This feedback came out:

mount: special device /dev/sdc2 does not exist

Here are a few other tests and their results:

bas at Viaconsensus1:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
mount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist
bas at Viaconsensus1:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdc /mnt
mount: No medium found

> then please report back whether this works and if not, what happened.

See above......

Respectfully yours,

Bas.



-- 
===============
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Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
M. +31.6.446.835.10
T. +31.30.785.20.40
BasRoufs at gmail.com
===============



From jonorland at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 19:41:02 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:41:02 +0100
Subject: 4.2 LCD weather plasmoid
In-Reply-To: <200901300515.08772.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
References: <200901300515.08772.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901301141q5f25ae58u779160498bf9ae05@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/30 Paul Kaplan <pkaplan1 at comcast.net>:
> After configuring the LCD weather plasmoid to an active US weather station, the
> data appear in the plasmoid window for a few seconds and then the plasmoid
> crashes, causes plasma to restart and resets all the desktop configuration
> settings to the 4.2 default.
>
> Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a fix?  Can anyone suggest a good/better
> weather plasmoid for 4.2?
> Paul
>

Not with just that plasmoid but it happens several times with others
that plasma crashed for me when I testing out the plasmoids in 4.2.
Plasma looks like its a bit unstable. I kept my ~/.kde folder but have
seen suggestions to delete it when upgrading to 4.2.

/ Jonas



From johndecarlo at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 20:23:05 2009
From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:23:05 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick installing a .exe file using Wine?
In-Reply-To: <1233181435.7466.263.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901211719.33756.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4977B2A8.2070101@yahoo.com>
	<200901221617.36457.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<4978E4D7.1080205@gatech.edu>
	<1233181435.7466.263.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <3dde113c0901301223i3a9e2317w8efd44076f70250e@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 16:27 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> > Steven Vollom wrote:
> > > steven at Studio25:~/.wine/drive_c$ >wine ~/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe
> > > bash: /home/steven/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe: Permission denied
> >
> > You have a typo.  Remove the > to get:
> >
> > wine ~/Desktop/FullTiltSetup.exe
> >
> > However, wine may not fully support the program.
>
> No one has asked if the program .exe file will run at all within the
> wine install he has. If the program was created for Windows Vista,
> probably not. Ric
>

Well,

I can say that Full Tilt Poker runs OK under Wine on my system at home.  It
is basically Kubuntu 8.04 with Mythbuntu, too.  Nvidia proprietary driver.


>
> --
> John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own
> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34091576500&ref=mf
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From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Fri Jan 30 20:23:59 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:23:59 -0800
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <daef5be80901300127n1e8e655frd609a967529e10c0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<49823620.40001@ajinfosearch.com>
	<daef5be80901300127n1e8e655frd609a967529e10c0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901301223.59428.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Friday 30 January 2009 1:27:13 am P Kapat wrote:

> >
> > Replace the "www" with "packages" - it's http://packages.medibuntu.org
> > I just went into the hardy packages from firefox in New Jersey.
> >
> > Alan
>
> If you look at this place:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
> All the wgets give you files containing the following (similarly for
> GG,II,JJ) repos
>
> deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free
>
> And yes, hardy packages can be manually downloaded, so they are there....

OK, its not the ISP or my router.  It is the one machine.  Other machines on 
the same network Will connect to either http://packages.medibuntu.org 
orhttp://www.medibuntu.org via browser.  this machine will not and it gives 
in firefox "Firefox can't find the server at www.medibuntu.org." and "Firefox 
can't find the server at packages.medibuntu.org."  Konqueror on this machine 
gives, "Unknown host www.medibuntu.org" and "Unknown host 
packages.medibuntu.org"  yet either browser will go anyplace else on the web 
with no problem.  Originally like I stated earlier it was the Update Manager 
which would not get the package lists for medibuntu a couple days ago. There 
is no firewall on this machine but something stops everything on it from 
accessing either of those addresses.  This is just weird.



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From gkourtev at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 21:18:46 2009
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:18:46 +0200
Subject: digiKam and Gwenview KDE 4.2
Message-ID: <200901302318.47086.gkourtev@gmail.com>

I was used to have under Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.1.x digiKam and Gwenview installed 
at the same time.  The first I use for my camera, the second is a nice quick 
viewer of pictures. 

Since upgraded to 4.2, both programs cannot be installed at the same time. 
When I have digiKam installed and run installation of Gwenview, adept replaces 
libkipi0 with libkipi6, and removes as well libkipi-common, kipi-plugins, and 
digiKam itself.  And the other way around. 

Is there a way to have both? Thanks.

Georgi




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From gloonie at earthlink.net  Fri Jan 30 21:44:18 2009
From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:44:18 -0500
Subject: digiKam and Gwenview KDE 4.2
In-Reply-To: <200901302318.47086.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901302318.47086.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901301644.18418.gloonie@earthlink.net>



On Friday 30 January 2009 16:18:46 Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> I was used to have under Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.1.x digiKam and Gwenview
> installed at the same time.  The first I use for my camera, the second is a
> nice quick viewer of pictures.
>
> Since upgraded to 4.2, both programs cannot be installed at the same time.
> When I have digiKam installed and run installation of Gwenview, adept
> replaces libkipi0 with libkipi6, and removes as well libkipi-common,
> kipi-plugins, and digiKam itself.  And the other way around.
>
> Is there a way to have both? Thanks.
>
> Georgi

Not at the moment. "Digikam will not install alongside these packages due to 
conflicting library versions."

see http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2

Glenn




From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jan 30 21:53:43 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:53:43 -0500
Subject: How do I create a Temp file that selfdeletes when it has completed
	its task?
Message-ID: <200901301653.44536.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

I just had an idea of how to keep from clogging hard disk space with stuff 
that you only want in your computer on a temporary basis.

Is it possible, like for Torrents and downloading files to remain in a temp 
file only until they are completed downloading, then autodelete them from the 
computer after the completed downloaded files have been forwarded to a 
permanent location?  

I am trying to keep from duplicate entries in the computer and wasting space.

When a download completes, I normally click on remove torrent or torrent and 
data, if I don't like what I downloaded.  I expected that data to be removed 
from the computer, however, when looking in files titled as torrent, I find 
that there is a huge list of torrents saved there that I don't really want 
occuping HDD space.  It appears that when I instruct ktorrent to remove the 
torrents, it doesn't remove them at all.  They remain in a folder that I 
don't visit very often.

Steven



From kap4lin at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 21:54:50 2009
From: kap4lin at gmail.com (P Kapat)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:54:50 -0500
Subject: 4.2 LCD weather plasmoid
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901301141q5f25ae58u779160498bf9ae05@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901300515.08772.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
	<b8d784880901301141q5f25ae58u779160498bf9ae05@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <daef5be80901301354v2f84be36u954fd71c93dc8168@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/30/09, Jonas Norlander <jonorland at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/1/30 Paul Kaplan <pkaplan1 at comcast.net>:
>> After configuring the LCD weather plasmoid to an active US weather
>> station, the
>> data appear in the plasmoid window for a few seconds and then the plasmoid
>> crashes, causes plasma to restart and resets all the desktop configuration
>> settings to the 4.2 default.
>>
>> Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a fix?  Can anyone suggest a
>> good/better
>> weather plasmoid for 4.2?
>> Paul
>>
>
> Not with just that plasmoid but it happens several times with others
> that plasma crashed for me when I testing out the plasmoids in 4.2.
> Plasma looks like its a bit unstable. I kept my ~/.kde folder but have
> seen suggestions to delete it when upgrading to 4.2.

I have seen this too - LCD, Comic viewer, file watcher... Just log out
log in and try doing it again.. It has worked. The first time they
always crash - like a baby trying to stand up for the first time!! A
bit ridiculous, but better than crashing all the time. So, 4.2 is
still buggy but tolerable!

-- 
Regards
PK
--------------------------------------
http://counter.li.org  #402424



From kap4lin at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 22:19:24 2009
From: kap4lin at gmail.com (P Kapat)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:19:24 -0500
Subject: shred on ext3 partition - journaled or not?
Message-ID: <daef5be80901301419g27ce7b7fjac8ff9692261f4bb@mail.gmail.com>

Nothing specific to Kubuntu still: I've an ext3 partition /dev/sda7
and I want to know with what journaling options this was mounted:
(because I want to use shred on it)

fstab entry:
UUID=......       /media/sda7     ext3    defaults        0       2

mtab entry:
/dev/sda7 /media/sda7 ext3 rw 0 0

tune2fs -l /dev/sda7 shows: (only relevant parts shown)
Filesystem features:      has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index
filetype needs_recovery sparse_super large_file
Default mount options:    (none)
Journal inode:            8
Default directory hash:   half_md4
Journal backup:           inode blocks

So, is this mounted with data=journal / data=ordered / data=writeback?
More importantly Is there any way to verify what journaling mode is
used on this (or any other) partition? The reason I ask is that shred
(man shred) is not reliable on data=journal mode.

-- 
Regards
PK
--------------------------------------
http://counter.li.org  #402424



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Fri Jan 30 22:20:53 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:20:53 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901300939t1895a418s565e4e8c002bd56e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>	<200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>	<c638edc20901300234w1f0aed4eo5a763cf2ce1e8a96@mail.gmail.com>	<200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>	<c638edc20901300601t4d0684fbw2d11cca64636e2fb@mail.gmail.com>	<glv6i1$41q$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901300939t1895a418s565e4e8c002bd56e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <glvug8$p3j$1@ger.gmane.org>

Bas Roufs wrote:
> Hello Eberhard and Everybody
> 

> 
>> in the last line(s) of this command's output, you should see the device
>> name(s) for your ntfs drive and for your fat32 drive, respectively.
> I wish you were right. But above you can see the harsh reality.....
> 

OK, then my suspicion is that either your external disk or your usb port 
is faulty.

As you already tried with another usb port, iirc, you should either take 
out the actual disk and use another usb casing for it or you use a 
device to connect pure (i.e. without casing) IDE/SATA harddisks to usb 
for quic and dirty data transfers eg. from a dying harddisk.

Lastly you could take your usb disk to a different computer. If the 
other one is linux, let's see what happens. If it is windows, let's see 
what happens. ;-))

Kind regards
Eberhard




From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Fri Jan 30 22:25:55 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:25:55 -0500
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <200901301223.59428.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>	<49823620.40001@ajinfosearch.com>	<daef5be80901300127n1e8e655frd609a967529e10c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901301223.59428.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <49837E73.9060705@gatech.edu>

Pastor JW wrote:
> There is no firewall on this machine but something stops everything on it from 
> accessing either of those addresses.  This is just weird.

Can you do:

host -v medibuntu.org
host -v packages.medibuntu.org

grep medibuntu /etc/hosts*

and post the output.

Matt Flaschen



From basroufs at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 23:51:50 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:51:50 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32 
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <glvug8$p3j$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901300234w1f0aed4eo5a763cf2ce1e8a96@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901300601t4d0684fbw2d11cca64636e2fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<glv6i1$41q$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901300939t1895a418s565e4e8c002bd56e@mail.gmail.com>
	<glvug8$p3j$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901301551j418c2fc8qd2a1542f1a7607dc@mail.gmail.com>

> OK, then my suspicion is that either your external disk or your usb port is faulty.

At the desktop PC, I have tried it via different USB ports - but all
of them do function properly together with other USB devices. The same
applies for the laptop.
>
>
> As you already tried with another usb port, iirc, you should either take out the actual disk and use another usb casing for it

'USB casing': a box? a cable? ....?

>
> or you use a device to connect pure (i.e. without casing) IDE/SATA harddisks to usb for quic and dirty data transfers eg. from a dying harddisk.

???
>
>
> Lastly you could take your usb disk to a different computer. If the
> other one is linux, let's see what happens. If it is windows, let's see
> what happens. ;-))

When I connect the external HD to the WINDOWS partition of the desktop
pc, it DOES function properly: even when using exactly the same USB
port, etc.
But when I connect the device to any USB port of the laptop, which is
also Kubuntu 8.10, I have exactly the same problem. So, it must be
some software problem.

Respectfully yours,

Bas.



From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Sat Jan 31 00:00:04 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:00:04 -0800
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <49837E73.9060705@gatech.edu>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<200901301223.59428.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<49837E73.9060705@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901301600.04161.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Friday 30 January 2009 2:25:55 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Pastor JW wrote:
> > There is no firewall on this machine but something stops everything on it
> > from accessing either of those addresses.  This is just weird.
>
> Can you do:
>
> host -v medibuntu.org
> host -v packages.medibuntu.org
>
> grep medibuntu /etc/hosts*
>
> and post the output.

Sure!

jw at jws-dell:~$ host -v medibuntu.org
Trying "medibuntu.org"
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
jw at jws-dell:~$ host -v packages.medibuntu.org
Trying "packages.medibuntu.org"
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
jw at jws-dell:~$ grep medibuntu /etc/hosts*
jw at jws-dell:~$

there it is.



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From wayward4now at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 01:03:05 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:03:05 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901282108.05236.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221604.31240.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<1233180558.7466.254.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
	<200901282108.05236.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1233363786.7466.524.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 21:08 -0500, Steven Vollom wrote:

> The thought of having someone sitting along side who is able to talk about a 
> problem while it is happening sounds just delicious, though.  Oh well, I can 
> not complain, I still love my life with all its problems, and I especially 
> love all of you who have been so kind this past several months.
> 
> Cordially and as always thanks,

Then there is one thing to consider, check out the LUG in the nearest
location, join their email list, if they have one and just describe your
condition and ask some one to come over sometime and help you with some
free lessons. I would bet you would get more than one taker and make
some friends. Make a batch of cookies. :)  Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From wayward4now at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 01:09:15 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:09:15 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick -- Yes! Get the path right.
In-Reply-To: <200901282132.41880.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901221403.36739.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<1233183371.7466.288.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
	<200901282132.41880.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1233364156.7466.530.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 21:32 -0500, Steven Vollom wrote:
> Dear Ric,
> 
> Before I read this email, I pretty much decided to take the suggestions 
> included in this email to heart.  Not knowing what things cause problems, I 
> simply stick my head down and trudge forward.  Nonetheless, everyone on the 
> list proves that they have my best interest at heart, so I will take the 
> advice and let the things that are potentially a kettle of worms go.  I wish 
> you could be that computer friend that you refer to.
> 
> Unfortunately, I live in a neighborhood where everyone I have talked with has 
> no interest in computers.  I think it is just that they don't think they 
> could handle the intellectual aspect of it, but no one has yet shown enough 
> interest for me to even help them get a free computer so they could try.

You could talk to everyone in the neighborhood and still miss the Linux
Geek! Isolationism is a common trait amongst geeks. You are right, it's
the "fear factor" that stops them from trying to use a computer. My
almost 80 year old mother is one of them. BUT! She will ask me to search
for things on the net, then I have to print them out and deliver them to
her. Maybe she just wants more attention?? 

But, find that local lug, I bet you'll find someone in your immediate
neighborhood. I have lived in some pretty bad places in my time, last
thing I would do is let the local crackheads know that I have a bunch of
computers. They wouldn't know an AMD64 system from a 486, they'd just
steal it anyway. :) Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From wayward4now at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 01:09:47 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:09:47 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick -- Yes! Get the path right.
In-Reply-To: <200901291409.07778.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<1233183371.7466.288.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
	<200901282132.41880.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901291409.07778.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <1233364188.7466.531.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 14:09 -0500, David McGlone wrote:
> On Wednesday 28 January 2009 9:32:41 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> > Dear Ric,
> >
> > Before I read this email, I pretty much decided to take the suggestions
> > included in this email to heart.  Not knowing what things cause problems, I
> > simply stick my head down and trudge forward.  Nonetheless, everyone on the
> > list proves that they have my best interest at heart, so I will take the
> > advice and let the things that are potentially a kettle of worms go.  I
> > wish you could be that computer friend that you refer to.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I live in a neighborhood where everyone I have talked with
> > has no interest in computers.  I think it is just that they don't think
> > they could handle the intellectual aspect of it, but no one has yet shown
> > enough interest for me to even help them get a free computer so they could
> > try.
> 
> Steven, I recall you saying you live in Dayton Ohio? If so, I am in Columbus. 
> Maybe someday we could meet up.

See?? :) Ric
-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From d.mcglone at att.net  Sat Jan 31 02:01:55 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:01:55 -0500
Subject: 4.2 LCD weather plasmoid
In-Reply-To: <daef5be80901301354v2f84be36u954fd71c93dc8168@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901300515.08772.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
	<b8d784880901301141q5f25ae58u779160498bf9ae05@mail.gmail.com>
	<daef5be80901301354v2f84be36u954fd71c93dc8168@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901302101.55117.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Friday 30 January 2009 4:54:50 pm P Kapat wrote:
> On 1/30/09, Jonas Norlander <jonorland at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2009/1/30 Paul Kaplan <pkaplan1 at comcast.net>:
> >> After configuring the LCD weather plasmoid to an active US weather
> >> station, the
> >> data appear in the plasmoid window for a few seconds and then the
> >> plasmoid crashes, causes plasma to restart and resets all the desktop
> >> configuration settings to the 4.2 default.
> >>
> >> Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a fix?  Can anyone suggest a
> >> good/better
> >> weather plasmoid for 4.2?
> >> Paul
> >
> > Not with just that plasmoid but it happens several times with others
> > that plasma crashed for me when I testing out the plasmoids in 4.2.
> > Plasma looks like its a bit unstable. I kept my ~/.kde folder but have
> > seen suggestions to delete it when upgrading to 4.2.
>
> I have seen this too - LCD, Comic viewer, file watcher... Just log out
> log in and try doing it again.. It has worked. The first time they
> always crash - like a baby trying to stand up for the first time!! A
> bit ridiculous, but better than crashing all the time. So, 4.2 is
> still buggy but tolerable!

Yes it is. the notes plasmoid isn't working, not that I used it much, but 
overall I still like 4.2

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From d.mcglone at att.net  Sat Jan 31 02:08:01 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:08:01 -0500
Subject: digiKam and Gwenview KDE 4.2
In-Reply-To: <200901302318.47086.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901302318.47086.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901302108.02092.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Friday 30 January 2009 4:18:46 pm Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> I was used to have under Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.1.x digiKam and Gwenview
> installed at the same time.  The first I use for my camera, the second is a
> nice quick viewer of pictures.
>
> Since upgraded to 4.2, both programs cannot be installed at the same time.
> When I have digiKam installed and run installation of Gwenview, adept
> replaces libkipi0 with libkipi6, and removes as well libkipi-common,
> kipi-plugins, and digiKam itself.  And the other way around.
>
> Is there a way to have both? Thanks.
>
> Georgi

This is weird, I have been using both on 4.2 with no problems.

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From d.mcglone at att.net  Sat Jan 31 02:12:27 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:12:27 -0500
Subject: digiKam and Gwenview KDE 4.2
In-Reply-To: <200901301644.18418.gloonie@earthlink.net>
References: <200901302318.47086.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<200901301644.18418.gloonie@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <200901302112.27770.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Friday 30 January 2009 4:44:18 pm Glenn R Williams wrote:
> On Friday 30 January 2009 16:18:46 Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> > I was used to have under Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.1.x digiKam and Gwenview
> > installed at the same time.  The first I use for my camera, the second is
> > a nice quick viewer of pictures.
> >
> > Since upgraded to 4.2, both programs cannot be installed at the same
> > time. When I have digiKam installed and run installation of Gwenview,
> > adept replaces libkipi0 with libkipi6, and removes as well
> > libkipi-common, kipi-plugins, and digiKam itself.  And the other way
> > around.
> >
> > Is there a way to have both? Thanks.
> >
> > Georgi
>
> Not at the moment. "Digikam will not install alongside these packages due
> to conflicting library versions."
>
> see http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
>
> Glenn

I'm running gwenview V. 2.1.3 and digikam V. 0.9.4

-- 
David M.
http://www.dmcentral.net



From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu  Sat Jan 31 03:40:07 2009
From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:40:07 -0500
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <200901301600.04161.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>	<200901301223.59428.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>	<49837E73.9060705@gatech.edu>
	<200901301600.04161.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
Message-ID: <4983C817.4050103@gatech.edu>

Pastor JW wrote:
>> Can you do:
>>
>> host -v medibuntu.org
>> host -v packages.medibuntu.org
>>
>> grep medibuntu /etc/hosts*
>>
>> and post the output.
> 
> Sure!
> 
> jw at jws-dell:~$ host -v medibuntu.org
> Trying "medibuntu.org"
> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
> jw at jws-dell:~$ host -v packages.medibuntu.org
> Trying "packages.medibuntu.org"
> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
> jw at jws-dell:~$ grep medibuntu /etc/hosts*

Hmm, the fact that it's a timeout not NXDOMAIN could indicate
shenanigans since you say all other queries are working.

Are you sure all the machines all have the same DNS settings (do you
know how they're getting assigned DNS servers?)?  Can you post
/etc/resolv.conf from a machine on the LAN that works and one that doesn't?

Also, can you do:

host -v google.com

on the machine where it's not working.

Matt Flaschen



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 31 04:24:46 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:24:46 -0500
Subject: Is there some trick -- Yes! Get the path right.
In-Reply-To: <1233364156.7466.530.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <200901211343.49665.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901282132.41880.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<1233364156.7466.530.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <200901302324.47542.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>

> My
> almost 80 year old mother is one of them. BUT! She will ask me to search
> for things on the net, then I have to print them out and deliver them to
> her. Maybe she just wants more attention??

I am only 65, but I am not in perfect health and a shut in.  All my family is 
2400 miles from here, and the people I meet seem to like me and want to help 
me, but just because I am old.  I never have anyone to talk to.  People will 
help me get out to purchase something from time to time, but don't want to 
come in and spend any time with me.  I appreciate what they do, but I would 
rather just have company.  It gets so lonely.  If I didn't have the list, I 
would go crazy.  Inside I am about 30 outside I am abut 100.

If you love her, visit her.  That is what she wants most.  She is probably 
only about 30 on the inside too, regardless of her actual age.  It sounds 
like she is lonely too.

> But, find that local lug, I bet you'll find someone in your immediate
> neighborhood. 

The only one I had any conversation with that was friendly turned out to be a 
burglar.  He robbed me twice before he died.  The only other are a young 
group of homosexuals next door, and I don't feel comfortable with them.  They 
are nice, but talk about things that pretty much make me ill to hear.  I know 
they don't realize how some hetrosexuals feel.  I don't dislike them.  I 
don't feel superior.  I don't even judge them, it is just when they talk 
openly about the things they do and like to do, it just turns my stomach.  I 
can't help it.  

> I have lived in some pretty bad places in my time, last 
> thing I would do is let the local crackheads know that I have a bunch of
> computers. They wouldn't know an AMD64 system from a 486, they'd just
> steal it anyway. :) Ric

That is how it is here.  Every time I let a neighbor in to get something they 
need, like a tool or some milk or sugar, their eyes wander everywhere, not 
interested in what they are seeing, just shopping for when I am not at home.

Every contact so far has cost me something.  A camera, money, even a container 
of wood glue worth very little.  It is just that I have trouble getting out 
to get things, and I needed the wood glue he stole, and I had just set it 
down where I would not lose or misplace it, because I was on a project that 
needed it when he came over.  I turned my back for an instant, and when I 
looked bace it was gone.  Because I needed it so bad and would have so much 
difficulty getting another, that 59 cent loss made me so angry, it was hard 
to get over it.

Even a guy from the church who takes me to purchase food, steals food from me 
every time we go.  It is only between $15 and $30, but that is a lot when you 
are on my low pension.  Because of it, I have to eat mostly Top Ramen the 
last few days of the month.  It is so unbelievable, I am not able to cope or 
understand it.  I don't feel like a neighbor or friend, I feel like a victim. 
Oh well, I don't have to worry about it for long, I am nearing the end of my 
life.  With all this going on, I still love my life.  The List keeps me 
smiling.  I still love making art.  And, my long distance relationship could 
not be better.

Thanks for your kind help, friend.

Steven
>
> --
>
> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
> Linux user# 44256
> https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
> Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987





From gloonie at earthlink.net  Sat Jan 31 04:26:35 2009
From: gloonie at earthlink.net (Glenn R Williams)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:26:35 -0500
Subject: 4.2 LCD weather plasmoid
In-Reply-To: <200901302101.55117.d.mcglone@att.net>
References: <200901300515.08772.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
	<daef5be80901301354v2f84be36u954fd71c93dc8168@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901302101.55117.d.mcglone@att.net>
Message-ID: <200901302326.35624.gloonie@earthlink.net>

On Friday 30 January 2009 21:01:55 David McGlone wrote:
> On Friday 30 January 2009 4:54:50 pm P Kapat wrote:
> > On 1/30/09, Jonas Norlander <jonorland at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 2009/1/30 Paul Kaplan <pkaplan1 at comcast.net>:
> > >> After configuring the LCD weather plasmoid to an active US weather
> > >> station, the
> > >> data appear in the plasmoid window for a few seconds and then the
> > >> plasmoid crashes, causes plasma to restart and resets all the desktop
> > >> configuration settings to the 4.2 default.
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a fix?  Can anyone suggest a
> > >> good/better
> > >> weather plasmoid for 4.2?
> > >> Paul
> > >
> > > Not with just that plasmoid but it happens several times with others
> > > that plasma crashed for me when I testing out the plasmoids in 4.2.
> > > Plasma looks like its a bit unstable. I kept my ~/.kde folder but have
> > > seen suggestions to delete it when upgrading to 4.2.
> >
> > I have seen this too - LCD, Comic viewer, file watcher... Just log out
> > log in and try doing it again.. It has worked. The first time they
> > always crash - like a baby trying to stand up for the first time!! A
> > bit ridiculous, but better than crashing all the time. So, 4.2 is
> > still buggy but tolerable!
>
> Yes it is. the notes plasmoid isn't working, not that I used it much, but
> overall I still like 4.2
>
> --
> David M.
> http://www.dmcentral.net

Hi, 

There is a bug report for this and other Plasmoid crashes. Looks like it's a 
QT problem. There is a patch somewhere. Here's the bug:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181003

Glenn





From wayward4now at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 04:42:25 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:42:25 -0500
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <49b3a7400901290821m64c663b8o414456b93a2f5869@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<49b3a7400901290821m64c663b8o414456b93a2f5869@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1233376946.7466.533.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 10:21 -0600, Tycho Andersen wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Pastor JW
> <pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org> wrote:
> > Anyone have any idea what happened to the medibuntu repositories for hardy?  I
> > don't find anything at their address at all using  http://www.medibuntu.org
> > Is this the wrong address now?  Seemed to have quit a couple days ago
> > according to my Update Manager.
> 
> This page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu still seems to
> have Hardy listed. Have you confirmed that something didn't get
> changed with your sources.list/sources.list.d?

Same problem here. Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From wayward4now at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 05:27:03 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:27:03 -0500
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <49823620.40001@ajinfosearch.com>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<200901290820.05018.jerryg@gaiser.org>
	<200901290908.18020.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<49823620.40001@ajinfosearch.com>
Message-ID: <1233379623.7466.536.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 18:05 -0500, Alan Dacey wrote:
> Pastor JW wrote:
> > On Thursday 29 January 2009 8:20:04 am Jerry Gaiser wrote:
> >> On Thursday 29 January 2009 08:08, Pastor JW wrote:
> >>> Anyone have any idea what happened to the medibuntu repositories for
> >>> hardy? I don't find anything at their address at all using
> >>> http://www.medibuntu.org Is this the wrong address now?  Seemed to have
> >>> quit a couple days ago according to my Update Manager.
> >> Works fine out here in Oregon
> > 
> > All right, it must be my ISP's DNS servers then.  none of my browsers will go 
> > there.  they all come back with "Unknown host www.medibuntu.org"'  I'm 
> > located not so far from Oregon, about 6 miles!  I live in Walla Walla.  I 
> > went checking cause my Update Manager came back saying, "last updated 43 
> > hours ago" yet there was few updates this morning anyway.  I found it to be 
> > the medibuntu one which was not updating so was trying to find out why.  
> > Thanks for the info.

Again, same problem here. I had to recycle that page using firefox 3
times to pick up on the website. Then, it finally picked it up. Ric

-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From jtwdyp at ttlc.net  Sat Jan 31 05:44:59 2009
From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:44:59 -0500
Subject: fvwm unable to initialize in Kubuntu 8.10...
In-Reply-To: <glpqk7$ae7$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901280734310.6111@localhost.localdomain>
	<glpqk7$ae7$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0901282343450.7376@theInTrepidation.hsd1.nh.comcast.net.>


It would appear that on Jan 28, Eberhard Roloff did say:

> I am on Kubuntu i386 8.10 and do not have fvwm.
> 
> However I am using kde, openbox and xfce4.
> While I login via kdm because it's so easy, there is "startkde", 
> "startxfce4" and "startopenbox"
> available for me as a bash command.

Thanks for responding Eberhard. But I think "easy" is in the hands of
the user... For me it's much easier to tap at the keyboard than to
wrestle the rodent into pointing where it needs to click something...

Of course KDM isn't that much harder than a console login for me.
I usually only have to remember to <shift>+<tab> to get back to the
login prompt to override kdm's guess about what user I'm about to login
as. Then remember to advance to the password field with <tab> instead
of <enter> like my reflexes expect to do at a login prompt...
But I never liked the way it displays a list of all possible login names
instead of expecting the user to remember how to type one in. And for
some irrational reason the insistence on there being a user image icon 
that not even root (nor sudoer) can disable (without hacking) actually 
offends me... I did say it was an irrational reason to get offended. But 
it offends me none the less.  

So on most linux the first thing I do is configure for a non-graphical 
login and then 95% of the time use startx as the first command...

> Maybe you got a complimentary "startfvwm", or similar?

It doesn't seam so. But actually it's a moot point. The solution appears to 
be to use an ~/.xinitrc file that points at fvwm and use startx. Thus I 
wrote a short user script as ~/bin/startfvwm that automatically does an
"cp ~/.fvwmxinitrc ~/.xinitrc" just before it calls startx... When the 
xserver terminates the script resumes execution and restores .xinitrc to 
it's original state allowing startx to once again start kde...

-- 
|   ---   ___
|   <0>   <->	   Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|	^		J(tWdy)P
|    ~\___/~	     <<jtwdyp at ttlc.net>>




From jtwdyp at ttlc.net  Sat Jan 31 06:11:03 2009
From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:11:03 -0500
Subject: fvwm unable to initialize in Kubuntu 8.10...[~/.xinitrc]
In-Reply-To: <b8d784880901281054m63f6f5e1rcc1b7e4d21272e9c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901280734310.6111@localhost.localdomain>
	<4980A3C4.6080008@fastmail.fm>
	<b8d784880901281054m63f6f5e1rcc1b7e4d21272e9c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0901282345550.7376@theInTrepidation.hsd1.nh.comcast.net.>


It would appear that on Jan 28, Jonas Norlander did say:

> >> Could somebody give me a clue how to start an fvwm session
> >> in Kubuntu???
> > Looking at the startx man page, I would guess that "startx fvwm"
> > should work.
> >
> > Karl
> >
> 
> startx and xinit uses your ~/.xinitrc to start whatever programs you
> want to start with Xorg. I have this to start fluxbox, you can put
> whatever programs you want to start there, remember that all but the
> last need to run in the background.
> ~$ cat .xinitrc
> fbdesk &
> xterm  -g 80x40+40+40 &
> startfluxbox
> # End of file

Thank you for the detailed example, and the tip about why the first two
items ended in " &"... It helped! 

> I have made a special layout in xorg.conf that i use when I want to
> play games. I'm can run this layout with this command "startx -- :1
> -layout GameLayout &" from konsole in my KDE session and it will start
> a new xsession on the next virtual console using whatever i have in
> ~/.xinitrc and in my case the Fluxbox Window Manager and xterm.

I can't say I know enough about the xorg.conf to create special
layouts... But once I figured out what to temporarily copy to
~/.xinitrc to get startx to boot fvwm it worked well enough for me.
99.9% of the time I'll want kde anyway. But now I know how to actually
try other WMs... Thanks again!
 
> I don't run FVWM so I cant help what command to run it with but
> looking in aptitude it looks like fvwm-crystal is what you want:
> "FVWM-crystal creates an easy to use desktop environment using fvwm2
> as its window manager and main core". Installing it you should be able
> to select it in KDM when logging in.

Actually since I strongly dislike graphical logins, being able to select
it in KDM wasn't were I wanted to go. But thanks for the tip anyway.
If your example ~/.xinitrc hadn't shown me the light... I might have
tried going back to the kdm method.

-- 
|   ---   ___
|   <0>   <->	   Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|	^		J(tWdy)P
|    ~\___/~	     <<jtwdyp at ttlc.net>>




From jtwdyp at ttlc.net  Sat Jan 31 06:41:42 2009
From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:41:42 -0500
Subject: fvwm unable to initialize in Kubuntu 8.10...[startx fvwm]
In-Reply-To: <4980A3C4.6080008@fastmail.fm>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901280734310.6111@localhost.localdomain>
	<4980A3C4.6080008@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0901282344250.7376@theInTrepidation.hsd1.nh.comcast.net.>


It would appear that on Jan 28, kk did say:

> Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > Could somebody give me a clue how to start an fvwm session
> > in Kubuntu??? 
> Looking at the startx man page, I would guess that "startx fvwm" should 
> work.
 
That was my first assumption when I _tried_ to understand the startx
man page Karl. But this didn't seem to work. Fortunately somebody
told me about the ~/.xinitrc file which is able to point startx at
fvwm... But thanks for the response.

-- 
|   ---   ___
|   <0>   <->	   Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|	^		J(tWdy)P
|    ~\___/~	     <<jtwdyp at ttlc.net>>




From jtwdyp at ttlc.net  Sat Jan 31 07:21:28 2009
From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:21:28 -0500
Subject: fvwm unable to initialize in Kubuntu 8.10...
In-Reply-To: <200901281856.16081.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901280734310.6111@localhost.localdomain>
	<200901281856.16081.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901301312280.6190@localhost.localdomain>


It would appear that on Jan 28, Constantinos Maltezos did say:

> On Wednesday 28 January 2009 8:05:26 am Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > In Kubuntu 8.10 I did an:
> >
> > apt-get install fvwm
> >
> > But I'm at a loss as to how to start an fvwm session.
> >
> > I don't know if it's significant but I boot to runlevel 3 without kdm...
> 
> "startx fvwm" is the way.  But... more below.
> 

That's what I thought man startx meant. But it didn't seem to work...
But more on that below.

> > It occurs to me that Intrepid uses kde4 and for some reason it
> > doesn't appear to keep it's configuration settings in:
> >
> > /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> >
> > I know this because that file contains zero bytes.
> 
> This is the whole deal.  I was unaware that KDE4 did not
> need to use xorg.conf.  That's kind of neat, but I don't
> like the idea that xorg.conf has been left useless by the
> install.  But maybe the Kubuntu people smarter than me. 
> Still, to run anything but KDE4, you're going to have to
> set up X in its usual way. 

Well since kde4 didn't seem to use the xorg.conf I took a chance that
any differences in the one that Hardy's installer wrote for this very
same machine wouldn't mess anything up. So I copied it to my Intrepid
installation. Then I tried the "startx fvwm" But it didn't quite work.
The xserver doesn't get far enough to switch the focus from the virtual
console before it terminates... (I forgot the error message)

However another response to this thread suggested that startx would
use an ~/.xinitrc file. And included an example of what needs to be in
such a thing. I didn't seem to need one to get kde with startx. But
when I made an .xinitrc that pointed at fvwm startx began booting
fvwm by default. (that is "startx" not "startx fvwm") If I want to
return to kde all I need to do is rename the ~/.xinitrc file before
running startx... Though I suppose it might work to leave it
configured for fvwm and try using startkde instead of startx at the
command prompt...

> To be honest, other than making it by hand, I have no clue
> how you'd go about this.  There's probably a GUI way and I
> hope someone else on the list can clue you (and me) in to it.

I hope so too. I'm hoping there is a tool to autoconfigure one to
match kde4's settings. Or that future installers would configure one
with all the auto detected hardware properly configured for any
alternate WM that does use it. They could always add a comment that
explains that editing it won't affect the kde4 session. And if there
was a tool to rewrite one based on whatever the current kde4
configuration was, it would make for a better way to list the details
of your configuration are when asking for help than having to post
links to images of various systemsettings views...

Thanks again for the insightful help. It's much appreciated.

-- 
|   ---   ___
|   <0>   <->	   Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|	^		J(tWdy)P
|    ~\___/~	     <<jtwdyp at ttlc.net>>




From jtwdyp at ttlc.net  Sat Jan 31 07:34:01 2009
From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:34:01 -0500
Subject: missing keyboard shortcut in mc 4.6.2-pre1 from kubuntu repo???
In-Reply-To: <200901181842.53513.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812282226310.5884@localhost.localdomain>
	<200901020336.28031.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0901171232580.5878@localhost.localdomain>
	<200901181842.53513.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901301309470.6190@localhost.localdomain>


It would appear that on Jan 18, Constantinos Maltezos did say:

> One last thing to try if all of the above is a waste: install another
> WM.  You don't need Gnome.  Try WindowMaker - that's a cool one.  Or
> IceWM.  I believe they're both in the package manager (I'm on a different
> machine at the moment, or I'd check).  Then open xterm there and see if
> it works.  If it does, then it's a setting in KDE.  If it doesn't, we go
> back to an X setting.  So if it doesn't, could you post the keyboard
> section of xorg.conf here?

Well I finally got to try fvwm. But mc's shortcuts didn't work in that
any better than they do in kde... But as far as the xorg.conf & a link
to a graphic image of the same data in kde4, please see my previous
reply.

If this is an X setting rather than a kde issue, where do I look to try
to find out what's blocking the shortcuts???

-- 
|  ~^~	 ~^~
|  <?>	 <?>		 Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|      ^		      J(tWdy)P
|    \___/		   <<jtwdyp at ttlc.net>>




From kap4lin at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 08:16:30 2009
From: kap4lin at gmail.com (P Kapat)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 03:16:30 -0500
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <1233379623.7466.536.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<200901290820.05018.jerryg@gaiser.org>
	<200901290908.18020.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<49823620.40001@ajinfosearch.com>
	<1233379623.7466.536.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <daef5be80901310016p3c616a78t38c159e098fac6ca@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/31/09, Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 18:05 -0500, Alan Dacey wrote:
>> Pastor JW wrote:
>> > On Thursday 29 January 2009 8:20:04 am Jerry Gaiser wrote:
>> >> On Thursday 29 January 2009 08:08, Pastor JW wrote:
>> >>> Anyone have any idea what happened to the medibuntu repositories for
>> >>> hardy? I don't find anything at their address at all using
>> >>> http://www.medibuntu.org Is this the wrong address now?  Seemed to
>> >>> have
>> >>> quit a couple days ago according to my Update Manager.
>> >> Works fine out here in Oregon
>> >
>> > All right, it must be my ISP's DNS servers then.  none of my browsers
>> > will go
>> > there.  they all come back with "Unknown host www.medibuntu.org"'  I'm
>> > located not so far from Oregon, about 6 miles!  I live in Walla Walla.
>> > I
>> > went checking cause my Update Manager came back saying, "last updated 43
>> >
>> > hours ago" yet there was few updates this morning anyway.  I found it to
>> > be
>> > the medibuntu one which was not updating so was trying to find out why.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the info.
>
> Again, same problem here. I had to recycle that page using firefox 3
> times to pick up on the website. Then, it finally picked it up. Ric

Of late, apt-get is stalling on us.archive.ubuntu.com for quite a
while then finally is able to download from there. Something very new
and strange.

-- 
Regards
PK
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http://counter.li.org  #402424



From kap4lin at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 08:19:30 2009
From: kap4lin at gmail.com (P Kapat)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 03:19:30 -0500
Subject: shred on ext3 partition - journaled or not?
In-Reply-To: <daef5be80901301419g27ce7b7fjac8ff9692261f4bb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <daef5be80901301419g27ce7b7fjac8ff9692261f4bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <daef5be80901310019u17795545kaf32f688268a87e0@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/30/09, P Kapat <kap4lin at gmail.com> wrote:
> So, is this mounted with data=journal / data=ordered / data=writeback?
> More importantly Is there any way to verify what journaling mode is
> used on this (or any other) partition? The reason I ask is that shred
> (man shred) is not reliable on data=journal mode.

I looked around and found this out:
grep -i data= /proc/mounts

Just in case any one needs it!
-- 
Regards
PK
--------------------------------------
http://counter.li.org  #402424



From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 31 08:22:30 2009
From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 03:22:30 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to run
	some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <1233363786.7466.524.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901282108.05236.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<1233363786.7466.524.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <200901310322.31164.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>


> Then there is one thing to consider, check out the LUG in the nearest
> location, join their email list, if they have one and just describe your
> condition and ask some one to come over sometime and help you with some
> free lessons. I would bet you would get more than one taker and make
> some friends. Make a batch of cookies. :)  Ric

I feel pretty stupid again.  That is a great idea.  I guess I have gotten to 
the point where I have to ask for help to get my food and medicine; I hate to 
impose on others, but can't think of a way to avoid the problem and still eat 
and get my medicine.  For a few months, my helpers have made me wait until I 
was out of medicine for about 3 days; each time I feel in trouble by the time 
I get the meds again.  Same with food, but that is a couple of weeks past 
when I need to shop now.  Because of that, my impositions feel so great the 
idea never occurred to me.  I will do that, though.  Computer people seem to 
love it a lot, and I know I enjoy the conversation and the sometime help I am 
able to give others, so maybe there is someone like me, who won't mind 
spending a few hours now and then with me.  It sure would be great.  Thanks 
for the great idea, Ric.

Cordially,
Steven



From basroufs at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 09:24:21 2009
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:24:21 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32 
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901301551j418c2fc8qd2a1542f1a7607dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901300234w1f0aed4eo5a763cf2ce1e8a96@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901300601t4d0684fbw2d11cca64636e2fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<glv6i1$41q$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901300939t1895a418s565e4e8c002bd56e@mail.gmail.com>
	<glvug8$p3j$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901301551j418c2fc8qd2a1542f1a7607dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c638edc20901310124h61e28892k6de9a939c92cbc4b@mail.gmail.com>

Dear everybody

It is a good moment to briefly summarise everything. In Kubuntu 8.10,
the external HD is still not being mounted - even not after several
attempts via two computers and at least 4 USB ports, from which I know
they work properly with other USB devices.
On the other hand, the presence of the HD is being mentioned elsewhere
in Kubuntu, when it is plugged in: in some log files as well as in
'Mount Manager', which says that the mount point is 'unknown'.
Moreover, I can normally and properly access both the FAT32 and the
NTFS partitions of the device via the Windows partition of the desktop
PC and via  an Apple (Mc. OS) computer.

Now, 2 questions pop up in me.

Is there any terminal test which can reveal the presence of any device
at any USB port?

Is it worth trying to reformat the external HD after backing up the
data on it elsewhere? If so, how exactly?

Respectfully yours,

Bas.


-- 
===============
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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Sat Jan 31 09:30:49 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:30:49 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901310124h61e28892k6de9a939c92cbc4b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>	<200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>	<c638edc20901300234w1f0aed4eo5a763cf2ce1e8a96@mail.gmail.com>	<200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>	<c638edc20901300601t4d0684fbw2d11cca64636e2fb@mail.gmail.com>	<glv6i1$41q$1@ger.gmane.org>	<c638edc20901300939t1895a418s565e4e8c002bd56e@mail.gmail.com>	<glvug8$p3j$1@ger.gmane.org>	<c638edc20901301551j418c2fc8qd2a1542f1a7607dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901310124h61e28892k6de9a939c92cbc4b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gm15o9$97t$1@ger.gmane.org>

Bas Roufs wrote:

> 
> Now, 2 questions pop up in me.
> 
> Is there any terminal test which can reveal the presence of any device
> at any USB port?

I only know of lsusb
> 
> Is it worth trying to reformat the external HD after backing up the
> data on it elsewhere? If so, how exactly?

If it is a windows filesystem I would do it in windows. But I doubt that 
this will help.

Before thinking of reformatting, you could do an "advanced file system 
check and repair" in windows.
ntfsfix in Linux can do a similar thing but as you cannot access your 
disk in Linu.....

Eberhard




From tuxebi at gmx.de  Sat Jan 31 09:37:46 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:37:46 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901301551j418c2fc8qd2a1542f1a7607dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>	<200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>	<c638edc20901300234w1f0aed4eo5a763cf2ce1e8a96@mail.gmail.com>	<200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>	<c638edc20901300601t4d0684fbw2d11cca64636e2fb@mail.gmail.com>	<glv6i1$41q$1@ger.gmane.org>	<c638edc20901300939t1895a418s565e4e8c002bd56e@mail.gmail.com>	<glvug8$p3j$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901301551j418c2fc8qd2a1542f1a7607dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gm165b$b9u$1@ger.gmane.org>

Bas Roufs wrote:
>> OK, then my suspicion is that either your external disk or your usb port is faulty.
> 
> At the desktop PC, I have tried it via different USB ports - but all
> of them do function properly together with other USB devices. The same
> applies for the laptop.
>>
>> As you already tried with another usb port, iirc, you should either take out the actual disk and use another usb casing for it
> 
> 'USB casing': a box? a cable? ....?

A box, ready to take a harddisk and connect it to usb.
just an example:
http://tinyurl.com/bltm5c


>> or you use a device to connect pure (i.e. without casing) IDE/SATA harddisks to usb for quic and dirty data transfers eg. from a dying harddisk.
> 
> ???
just an example:
http://www.dooyoo.de/speicherkarten/equip-usb-2-0-sata-ide-converter/







From golephish at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 09:43:08 2009
From: golephish at gmail.com (Paul Clark)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:43:08 -0500
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32 
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901310124h61e28892k6de9a939c92cbc4b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901300234w1f0aed4eo5a763cf2ce1e8a96@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901300601t4d0684fbw2d11cca64636e2fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<glv6i1$41q$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901300939t1895a418s565e4e8c002bd56e@mail.gmail.com>
	<glvug8$p3j$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<c638edc20901301551j418c2fc8qd2a1542f1a7607dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901310124h61e28892k6de9a939c92cbc4b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91c737760901310143x5733368dv23ddacbef6ea27fa@mail.gmail.com>

I believe that if you simply add it to your /etc/fstab and make sure that
"Mount removable drives when hot-plugged "is selected in the Removable
Storage preference panel you should be all set.

take a look here ---
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-16427.html


On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Bas Roufs <basroufs at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear everybody
>
> It is a good moment to briefly summarise everything. In Kubuntu 8.10,
> the external HD is still not being mounted - even not after several
> attempts via two computers and at least 4 USB ports, from which I know
> they work properly with other USB devices.
> On the other hand, the presence of the HD is being mentioned elsewhere
> in Kubuntu, when it is plugged in: in some log files as well as in
> 'Mount Manager', which says that the mount point is 'unknown'.
> Moreover, I can normally and properly access both the FAT32 and the
> NTFS partitions of the device via the Windows partition of the desktop
> PC and via  an Apple (Mc. OS) computer.
>
> Now, 2 questions pop up in me.
>
> Is there any terminal test which can reveal the presence of any device
> at any USB port?
>
> Is it worth trying to reformat the external HD after backing up the
> data on it elsewhere? If so, how exactly?
>
> Respectfully yours,
>
> Bas.
>
>
> --
> ===============
> Viaconsensus
> Bas G. Roufs M.A.
> Van 't Hoffstraat 1
> NL-3514 VT  Utrecht
> M. +31.6.446.835.10
> T. +31.30.785.20.40
> BasRoufs at gmail.com
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From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 11:00:54 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:00:54 +0200
Subject: Last 100 changed files?
Message-ID: <880dece00901310300q536cd7belabc9613357888de1@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a way that a user can list the last 100 changed files in his
home directory? I mean to do this _without_ resorting to the console?
See the comments here for why I ask:
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/27/display-last-100-changed-files/

-- 
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From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Sat Jan 31 11:20:19 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:20:19 -0500
Subject: shutdown service menu in kde 4.2
In-Reply-To: <200901301254.21992.kaj@haulrich.net>
References: <200901300458.44377.pkaplan1@comcast.net>
	<4982D6C4.6030305@michaelzoet.de>
	<200901301254.21992.kaj@haulrich.net>
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On Friday 30 January 2009 06:54:21 Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> On Friday 30 January 2009 11:30:28 Michael Zoet wrote:
> > Georgi Kourtev schrieb:
> > > On Friday 30 January 2009 11:58:44 Paul Kaplan wrote:
> > > > After upgrading 8.10 to kde 4.2, I find that right clicking
> > > > on the
> > >
> > > desktop
> > >
> > > > no longer provides options to shutdown in the context menu.
> > > >
> > > > Also, even though "Offer Shutdown Options" is checked in the
> > > > session manager control module, I only get presented with the
> > > > default shutdown option (in my case, turn off computer), I
> > > > don't see all three options.
> > > >
> > > > Is this a bug or an issue with the ppa versions of kde? Is
> > > > there a fix?
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > >
> > > It works fine with me. I';m with Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.2.
> > > gk
> >
> > fro me too!
>
> I think it depends on the settings. Right click 'Appearance
> settings' on the desktop background and change from 'folder view' to
> 'Desktop'. Then the context menu changes and will give you the
> 'Leave' option back.
>
> HTH
>
> Kaj Haulrich.
> --
What's the thinking behind that?  Why would want to shutdown or logout from 
the Desktop/ but not when you're in folderview?  Any chance to revise the 
service menu?
Paul



From tuxebi at gmx.de  Sat Jan 31 11:28:44 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:28:44 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <91c737760901310143x5733368dv23ddacbef6ea27fa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>	<200901292326.27521.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>	<c638edc20901300234w1f0aed4eo5a763cf2ce1e8a96@mail.gmail.com>	<200901301315.38956.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>	<c638edc20901300601t4d0684fbw2d11cca64636e2fb@mail.gmail.com>	<glv6i1$41q$1@ger.gmane.org>	<c638edc20901300939t1895a418s565e4e8c002bd56e@mail.gmail.com>	<glvug8$p3j$1@ger.gmane.org>	<c638edc20901301551j418c2fc8qd2a1542f1a7607dc@mail.gmail.com>	<c638edc20901310124h61e28892k6de9a939c92cbc4b@mail.gmail.com>
	<91c737760901310143x5733368dv23ddacbef6ea27fa@mail.gmail.com>
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Paul Clark wrote:
> 
> I believe that if you simply add it to your /etc/fstab and make sure 
> that "Mount removable drives when hot-plugged "is selected in the 
> Removable Storage preference panel you should be all set.
> 
> take a look here ---
> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-16427.html
> 
> 
Hopefully, it will help.

But take into consideration that this is advice from 2005. Way back when 
usb mounting was lousy, while nowadays it should work out of the box and 
without any user intervention.

This is why the usb Disk behaviour on Bas' machine is so strange.

Eberhard




From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 31 11:39:29 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:39:29 -0600
Subject: Keyboard shortcut for applications menu
In-Reply-To: <4981AF00.5060803@gmail.com>
References: <497DBD83.5040508@gmail.com> <4981AF00.5060803@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901310539.30733.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Thursday 29 January 2009 7:28:32 am Alexander Smirnov wrote:
> seems everyone here is using mouse and have never faced with shortcut
> failure :)
>
> Alexander Smirnov wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > i'm using kubuntu 8.04 (with KDE3.5.10).
> > impressed by kickoff in kde4(on another machine), I installed
> > tastymenu to kde3.
> > After some time i decided to move back to standard menu.
> > I removed tastymenu applet and  added "K menu" to my kicker, but for
> > some reason it didn't open when i press ALT+F1 shortcut.
> >
> > I tried to change shortcut in "system settings" to something else -
> > but that didn't work either :(
> >
> >
> > any ideas?

Sorry, didn't see this before.

Rather than changing it, try deleting it, applying the change, then setting it 
up again.  I had a recent problem with layout switching that doing this fixed.



From jonorland at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 11:53:18 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:53:18 +0100
Subject: Last 100 changed files?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901310300q536cd7belabc9613357888de1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00901310300q536cd7belabc9613357888de1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901310353j1658b80h32c8924c63f27c68@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/31 Dotan Cohen <dotancohen at gmail.com>:
> Is there a way that a user can list the last 100 changed files in his
> home directory? I mean to do this _without_ resorting to the console?
> See the comments here for why I ask:
> http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/27/display-last-100-changed-files/
>
> --
> Dotan Cohen
>

I dont know a GUI with that purpose but both Dolphin and Krusader has
a advanced search function where you can specify a last modified date
and you can save the result to a file.
Using the CLI you can use find with the -mtime option to search for
changed file.

/ Jonas



From golephish at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 11:59:49 2009
From: golephish at gmail.com (golephish at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:59:49 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <1732336581233403189328@fastmobile.com>

Hey thanks for maintaing this list. I am seconds away from installing kubuntu (i never sleep). I am excited to see it and hope kde is better than gnome. Anyone rember litestep? An oldschool shell replacemeny for windoze... I am hoping it is similar. Thanks for your time and greetz from atlanta,ga



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 31 12:05:44 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:05:44 -0600
Subject: fvwm unable to initialize in Kubuntu 8.10...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901301312280.6190@localhost.localdomain>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901280734310.6111@localhost.localdomain>
	<200901281856.16081.pandarsson@yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0901301312280.6190@localhost.localdomain>
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On Saturday 31 January 2009 1:21:28 am Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> Well since kde4 didn't seem to use the xorg.conf I took a chance that
> any differences in the one that Hardy's installer wrote for this very
> same machine wouldn't mess anything up. So I copied it to my Intrepid
> installation. Then I tried the "startx fvwm" But it didn't quite work.
> The xserver doesn't get far enough to switch the focus from the virtual
> console before it terminates... (I forgot the error message)

If you ever get the message again, I'd be curious to know what it is.

> However another response to this thread suggested that startx would
> use an ~/.xinitrc file. And included an example of what needs to be in
> such a thing. I didn't seem to need one to get kde with startx. But
> when I made an .xinitrc that pointed at fvwm startx began booting
> fvwm by default. (that is "startx" not "startx fvwm") If I want to
> return to kde all I need to do is rename the ~/.xinitrc file before
> running startx... Though I suppose it might work to leave it
> configured for fvwm and try using startkde instead of startx at the
> command prompt...

Are you saying that fvwm works when you put it in .xinitrc?  If so, how 
strange that it wouldn't work the other way, as well.

By the way, I don't think startkde can be used the way you're saying.  If it's 
the same as it used to be, it's meant to be run while another window manager 
that works with KDE (like WindowMaker and blackbox, not fvwm unless they've 
added support) is running.  Then it loads desktop icons and that sort of 
thing, but leaves window management and things like desktop background to the 
window manager.  I don't recall what it does for desktop right clicking.  You 
could, though, make a shell script for KDE that looks like this:

#!/bin/sh
mv .xinitrc .xinitrc.backup
startx
mv .xinitrc.backup .xinitrc

Maybe name it kde.sh or kdestart (not just kde because there's already an 
executable by that name) and do chmod +x to it.  You'll have to specify the 
path with ./ when you run it unless, like me, you add a bin directory to your 
home directory and add it to your path in .bashrc and stick the file in there.  
But that's usually not the greatest of ideas.  I like it though, because I 
have a bunch of shell scripts that I use that I don't want to make available 
to the whole system.



From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 31 12:07:11 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:07:11 -0600
Subject: fvwm unable to initialize in Kubuntu 8.10...[startx fvwm]
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0901282344250.7376@theInTrepidation.hsd1.nh.comcast.net.>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901280734310.6111@localhost.localdomain>
	<4980A3C4.6080008@fastmail.fm>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0901282344250.7376@theInTrepidation.hsd1.nh.comcast.net.>
Message-ID: <200901310607.12311.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Saturday 31 January 2009 12:41:42 am Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> It would appear that on Jan 28, kk did say:
> > Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > > Could somebody give me a clue how to start an fvwm session
> > > in Kubuntu???
> >
> > Looking at the startx man page, I would guess that "startx fvwm" should
> > work.
>
> That was my first assumption when I _tried_ to understand the startx
> man page Karl. But this didn't seem to work. Fortunately somebody
> told me about the ~/.xinitrc file which is able to point startx at
> fvwm... But thanks for the response.

You know, it might work to specify the full path of the executable after 
startx.  I haven't logged in from the console in a while, so I don't remember.



From j_e_n_pub at yahoo.dk  Sat Jan 31 12:49:37 2009
From: j_e_n_pub at yahoo.dk (Johnny Ernst Nielsen)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:49:37 +0100
Subject: Last 100 changed files?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901310300q536cd7belabc9613357888de1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00901310300q536cd7belabc9613357888de1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901311349.37405.j_e_n_pub@yahoo.dk>

Greetings Dotan.

lørdag den 31. Januar 2009 kvad Dotan Cohen:
> Is there a way that a user can list the last 100 changed files in
> his home directory? I mean to do this _without_ resorting to the
> console? See the comments here for why I ask:
> http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/27/display-last-100-changed-files/

Yes.

In standard KDE3 one can find the kfind application in the menu.

I forgot why kubuntu packages KDE3 without kfind in the menu, but the 
application is there (alt+F2, run "kfind").

Best regards :o)

Johnny :o)




From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 13:02:44 2009
From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?=)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:02:44 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 8.10 does not recognise external HD with NTFS and FAT32
	partitions.
In-Reply-To: <c638edc20901310124h61e28892k6de9a939c92cbc4b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c638edc20901291027wcca8dffn617d460401d39f46@mail.gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901301551j418c2fc8qd2a1542f1a7607dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<c638edc20901310124h61e28892k6de9a939c92cbc4b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901311402.44790.Ulrich.gruen@gmail.com>

Am Samstag, 31. Januar 2009 10:24:21 schrieb Bas Roufs:
> Moreover, I can normally and properly access both the FAT32 and the
> NTFS partitions of the device via the Windows partition of the desktop
> PC and via  an Apple (Mc. OS) computer.

Let's clear things up a little:
A 'Windows *partition*' is that part of a HD wich contains either FAT16, FAT32 (vfat) 
of NTFS. So you cannot access the FAT32 partition via the Windows partition; you 
access the FAT32 (or whatever partition) via the Windows *OS* (like via Linux OS, or 
macOS X). 

Now to your problem:
You cannot access the Windows partitions (FAT32 and NTFS) with Kubuntu on your laptop, 
but you can access them with Windows OS on your desktop (this means, the HD isn't 
broken).
Can you access the HD with your Kubuntu OS on your *desktop*? If not, it is a 
Kubuntu/Linux problem (unsuported HD, since the USB port of your desktop is working 
properly). If you can, it's a problem of your laptops usb port (e.g. your USB is 
broken or not supported, or whatever). But you can access your memorystick, I suppose?

-- 
Love and Light,
Ulrich
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        Thinking a lot about less and less, and forgetting the love we bring "
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From tuxebi at gmx.de  Sat Jan 31 13:39:05 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:39:05 +0100
Subject: Last 100 changed files?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901310300q536cd7belabc9613357888de1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00901310300q536cd7belabc9613357888de1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gm1k9o$ect$1@ger.gmane.org>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Is there a way that a user can list the last 100 changed files in his
> home directory? I mean to do this _without_ resorting to the console?
> See the comments here for why I ask:
> http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/27/display-last-100-changed-files/
> 
Dotan,
while I kind of understand why you ask,
frankly, I do not understand why you would need to find out what the 
last 100 changed files are?

Please briefly explain.

Kind regards
Eberhard




From art.alexion at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 14:17:17 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:17:17 -0500
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com>	<497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>	<497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>	<20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>	<glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao> <4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <49845D6D.8030403@gmail.com>

On 01/29/2009 Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>  However, in answer to part of their question, "is KDE 4.2 
> ever making it to 8.10":
> 
> <Quote from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 >
> 
> The updated packages for Kubuntu 8.10 are located in the Kubuntu 
> Experimental Software Personal Package Archive (PPA) repository.

The PPA is actually 4.1.96.  It is very unstable with kmail 1.11 which 
is probably the program I use the most.  I have heard from Mandravia and 
FC users that the real 4.2 is much more stable.

I am hoping and guessing that Kubuntu 9.04 beta will be much more usable 
  than the current state of 8.10.  I am skipping 8.10 completely on my 
production boxes.





From art.alexion at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 14:18:19 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:18:19 -0500
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <200901291551.23392.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>
	<4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
	<200901291551.23392.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49845DAB.9040408@gmail.com>

On 01/29/2009 Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> Do I have to remove the ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental from the repository after the installation or is fine to leave it there?

You need to leave it there to get updates.






From art.alexion at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 14:26:11 2009
From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:26:11 -0500
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <49824EC1.9030805@swbell.net>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com>	<497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>	<497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>	<20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>	<glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org>	<1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>	<4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>	<m3t956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<49824EC1.9030805@swbell.net>
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On 01/29/2009 Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> Why they put the new KDE in PPA is beyond me but they did. Just because 
> it's there instead of somewhere else doesn't mean it's not going to 
> "make it to 8.10". It _IS_ the KDE 4.2 release that's there. It's not a 
> beta or an rc.

Wrong, The 4.2 in the PPA is really 4.1.96.  To confirm in any app, just 
do Help|About KDE...

Users of other distros with the real 4.2 confirm major bugs in 4,1,96 
that are fixed in the real 4.2



From jonorland at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 14:49:25 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:49:25 +0100
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <49845F83.2080600@gmail.com>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com> <497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>
	<20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de> <glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao> <4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>
	<m3t956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca> <49824EC1.9030805@swbell.net>
	<49845F83.2080600@gmail.com>
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2009/1/31 Art Alexion <art.alexion at gmail.com>:
> On 01/29/2009 Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>> Why they put the new KDE in PPA is beyond me but they did. Just because
>> it's there instead of somewhere else doesn't mean it's not going to
>> "make it to 8.10". It _IS_ the KDE 4.2 release that's there. It's not a
>> beta or an rc.
>
> Wrong, The 4.2 in the PPA is really 4.1.96.  To confirm in any app, just
> do Help|About KDE...
>

Just did that and it say it is "Version 4.2.00 (KDE 4.2.0)".

/ Jonas



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 14:52:08 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:52:08 +0200
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>
	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com> <497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>
	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com> <497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>
	<20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de> <glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <880dece00901310652k5b0aa051j5e2d1264a2b0501@mail.gmail.com>

>> 4.0 was API-stable and that was written all over
>> them.
>>
>
> and anybody correctly understood that "4.0" is not a production release.;-))
>
> Come on!
>

4.0 was the release of the stable API, not the stable desktop. KDE is
more than a desktop, in fact, the desktop is not even the main
component of KDE. When the main component of KDE was ready for
release, it was released.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

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From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Sat Jan 31 14:47:58 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:47:58 -0600
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <49845F83.2080600@gmail.com>
References: <200901251321.04823.art.alexion@gmail.com>	<497CB40D.90805@ajinfosearch.com>	<497CBDBA.4050306@gmail.com>	<497CE0CF.2000404@ajinfosearch.com>	<497D9B5B.9020902@gmail.com>	<20090129130105.GH29722@vzsze.de>	<glsa9p$tq5$1@ger.gmane.org>	<1233235671.9252.1.camel@tao>	<4981B33D.1070200@swbell.net>	<m3t956-a37.ln1@pointerstop.ca>	<49824EC1.9030805@swbell.net>
	<49845F83.2080600@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4984649E.2020109@swbell.net>

Art Alexion wrote:
> On 01/29/2009 Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>   
>> Why they put the new KDE in PPA is beyond me but they did. Just because 
>> it's there instead of somewhere else doesn't mean it's not going to 
>> "make it to 8.10". It _IS_ the KDE 4.2 release that's there. It's not a 
>> beta or an rc.
>>     
>
> Wrong, The 4.2 in the PPA is really 4.1.96.  To confirm in any app, just 
> do Help|About KDE...
>
> Users of other distros with the real 4.2 confirm major bugs in 4,1,96 
> that are fixed in the real 4.2
>
>   
Opening Dolphin and clicking on "Help > About KDE" returns this:

K Desktop Environment
Version 4.2.00 (KDE 4.2.0)


I see nothing about 4.1.96 anywhere.


Kubuntu 8.10 updated from the PPA.



From golephish at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 14:57:36 2009
From: golephish at gmail.com (golephish at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:57:36 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <4984649E.2020109@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <18890497391233413856993@fastmobile.com>

420... Really..
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From bilwalsh at swbell.net  Sat Jan 31 15:06:25 2009
From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Erin Walsh)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:06:25 -0600
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <18890497391233413856993@fastmobile.com>
References: <18890497391233413856993@fastmobile.com>
Message-ID: <498468F1.7060905@swbell.net>

golephish at gmail.com wrote:
> 420... Really..

No.  

4.2.00   

Really.

My reply below was a Copy + Paste right out of the About KDE window

>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
> From:
> Billie Erin Walsh <bilwalsh at swbell.net>
> Date:
> Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:47:58 -0600
> To:
> Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>
> To:
> Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>
>
> Art Alexion wrote:
>   
>> On 01/29/2009 Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Why they put the new KDE in PPA is beyond me but they did. Just because 
>>> it's there instead of somewhere else doesn't mean it's not going to 
>>> "make it to 8.10". It _IS_ the KDE 4.2 release that's there. It's not a 
>>> beta or an rc.
>>>     
>>>       
>> Wrong, The 4.2 in the PPA is really 4.1.96.  To confirm in any app, just 
>> do Help|About KDE...
>>
>> Users of other distros with the real 4.2 confirm major bugs in 4,1,96 
>> that are fixed in the real 4.2
>>
>>   
>>     
> Opening Dolphin and clicking on "Help > About KDE" returns this:
>
> K Desktop Environment
> Version 4.2.00 (KDE 4.2.0)
>
>
> I see nothing about 4.1.96 anywhere.
>
>
> Kubuntu 8.10 updated from the PPA.
>
>   




From golephish at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 15:17:18 2009
From: golephish at gmail.com (golephish at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:17:18 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
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Oh you mean 4.2 woops. Sorry to waste bytes
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From derek at pointerstop.ca  Sat Jan 31 15:35:24 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:35:24 -0400
Subject: Last 100 changed files?
References: <880dece00901310300q536cd7belabc9613357888de1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <tm7e56-tnl.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> Is there a way that a user can list the last 100 changed files in his
> home directory? I mean to do this _without_ resorting to the console?
> See the comments here for why I ask:
> http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/27/display-last-100-changed-files/

For that, I'd just sort on modification date - I can't really imagine caring 
about _exactly_ 100 changed files.  If you want to search on an entire 
filesystem there's kfind as Jonas and Johnny suggest (though it isn't on _my_ 
KDE 4.1 menu, Johnny)





From john at wexfordpress.com  Sat Jan 31 15:57:39 2009
From: john at wexfordpress.com (John Culleton)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:57:39 -0500
Subject: Latest Gimp
Message-ID: <200901311057.39539.john@wexfordpress.com>

What is the latest version of Gimp available for Kubuntu and what 
version of Kubuntu should I install to get to this latest version? 
-- 
John Culleton
Resources for every author and publisher:
http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf
http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf
http://www.creativemindspress.com/newbiefaq.htm
http://www.gropenassoc.com/TopLevelPages/reference%20desk.htm



From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Sat Jan 31 16:08:41 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:08:41 -0500
Subject: Latest Gimp
In-Reply-To: <200901311057.39539.john@wexfordpress.com>
References: <200901311057.39539.john@wexfordpress.com>
Message-ID: <200901311108.41786.pkaplan1@comcast.net>

Gimp 2.63
Kubuntu 8.10
Try the LiveCD


On Saturday 31 January 2009 10:57:39 John Culleton wrote:
> What is the latest version of Gimp available for Kubuntu and what
> version of Kubuntu should I install to get to this latest version?
> --
> John Culleton
> Resources for every author and publisher:
> http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf
> http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf
> http://www.creativemindspress.com/newbiefaq.htm
> http://www.gropenassoc.com/TopLevelPages/reference%20desk.htm




From j_e_n_pub at yahoo.dk  Sat Jan 31 16:13:25 2009
From: j_e_n_pub at yahoo.dk (Johnny Ernst Nielsen)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:13:25 +0100
Subject: Last 100 changed files?
In-Reply-To: <tm7e56-tnl.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <880dece00901310300q536cd7belabc9613357888de1@mail.gmail.com>
	<tm7e56-tnl.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <200901311713.26033.j_e_n_pub@yahoo.dk>

> Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > Is there a way that a user can list the last 100 changed files in
> > his home directory? I mean to do this _without_ resorting to the
> > console? See the comments here for why I ask:
> > http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/27/display-last-100-changed-files/

lørdag den 31. Januar 2009 kvad Derek Broughton:
> If you want to search on an entire filesystem there's kfind as Jonas
> and Johnny suggest

In KDE3 kfind can also search whatever folder one specify, as well as 
exclude or include sub folders beneath said folde, whatever the user 
likes.

> (though [kfind] isn't on _my_ KDE 4.1 menu, Johnny)  

I don't know about KDE4. That's why I specifically wrote KDE3 in my 
previous answer.

Best regards :o)

Johnny :o)




From miron.florea at web.de  Sat Jan 31 16:16:45 2009
From: miron.florea at web.de (Octavian Florea)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:16:45 +0200
Subject: Latest Gimp
In-Reply-To: <200901311057.39539.john@wexfordpress.com>
References: <200901311057.39539.john@wexfordpress.com>
Message-ID: <4984796D.70002@web.de>

On 01/31/2009 05:57 PM, John Culleton wrote:
> What is the latest version of Gimp available for Kubuntu and what
> version of Kubuntu should I install to get to this latest version?
>    
The latest gimp version is 2.6.4. The latest stable release of kubuntu 
as well as the latest alpha release offer version 2.6.3.
You can get up-to-date gimp packages from getdeb  ( 
http://www.getdeb.net/ ). They are built for intrepid (8.10), but may 
work for other releases as well (at least they work in jaunty alpha)



From derek at pointerstop.ca  Sat Jan 31 16:25:01 2009
From: derek at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:25:01 -0400
Subject: Last 100 changed files?
References: <880dece00901310300q536cd7belabc9613357888de1@mail.gmail.com>
	<tm7e56-tnl.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
	<200901311713.26033.j_e_n_pub@yahoo.dk>
Message-ID: <ujae56-3dn.ln1@pointerstop.ca>

Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote:

>> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> > Is there a way that a user can list the last 100 changed files in
>> > his home directory? I mean to do this _without_ resorting to the
>> > console? See the comments here for why I ask:
>> > http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/27/display-last-100-changed-files/
> 
> lørdag den 31. Januar 2009 kvad Derek Broughton:
>> If you want to search on an entire filesystem there's kfind as Jonas
>> and Johnny suggest
> 
> In KDE3 kfind can also search whatever folder one specify, as well as
> exclude or include sub folders beneath said folde, whatever the user
> likes.

Sure - it just doesn't seem that important to use it if all you want is to 
look at the contents of your home directory.
> 
>> (though [kfind] isn't on _my_ KDE 4.1 menu, Johnny)
> 
> I don't know about KDE4. That's why I specifically wrote KDE3 in my
> previous answer.

Ah... I mistook your comment as applying to specific versions, rather than 
Kubuntu vs "standard" KDE (is there really such a thing?)





From tuxebi at gmx.de  Sat Jan 31 16:37:23 2009
From: tuxebi at gmx.de (Eberhard Roloff)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:37:23 +0100
Subject: digiKam and Gwenview KDE 4.2
In-Reply-To: <200901302318.47086.gkourtev@gmail.com>
References: <200901302318.47086.gkourtev@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gm1uo3$e8k$1@ger.gmane.org>

Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> I was used to have under Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.1.x digiKam and Gwenview 
> installed at the same time. The first I use for my camera, the second is 
> a nice quick viewer of pictures.
> 
> 
> Since upgraded to 4.2, both programs cannot be installed at the same 
> time. When I have digiKam installed and run installation of Gwenview, 
> adept replaces libkipi0 with libkipi6, and removes as well 
> libkipi-common, kipi-plugins, and digiKam itself. And the other way around.
> 
> 
> Is there a way to have both? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Georgi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
Well,

if you are feeling adventurous:
https://launchpad.net/~digikam-experimental/+archive/ppa

I an using it and I am very happy with it, but your mileage may vary. ;-)

regards
Eberhard




From amila.uoc at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 16:48:12 2009
From: amila.uoc at gmail.com (Amila Liyanaarachchi)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:18:12 +0530
Subject: Upgrade KDE to 4.2
In-Reply-To: <4982DCD8.40809@michaelzoet.de>
References: <266ff2be0901281916k5f9e072fx9b3d2cdac981a672@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090128225033.a71c6bd5.claydoh@midmaine.com>
	<266ff2be0901291758s7096930kdbb29ffd94b71a61@mail.gmail.com>
	<daef5be80901300159nfa3a711g16c2ab4b9bb0bea7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4982DCD8.40809@michaelzoet.de>
Message-ID: <266ff2be0901310848jd161d1bx5e6ff8152490e023@mail.gmail.com>

hello,

An error message which I got while trying to fix the prob,

sudo apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  akregator kaddressbook kdelibs5 kdemultimedia-kio-plugins
kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-kresources kdepim-wizards kdepimlibs5
khelpcenter knotes konsole
  korganizer libphonon4 libsoprano4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0
libstrigiqtdbusclient0 python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus
system-config-printer-kde
  xserver-xorg-core
The following packages will be upgraded:
  kdelibs5-data
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 21 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/3163kB of archives.
After this operation, 332kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
(Reading database ... 116052 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace kdelibs5-data 4:4.0.3-0ubuntu5.2 (using
.../kdelibs5-data_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa3_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement kdelibs5-data ...
dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs5-data_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa3_all.deb
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite
`/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/launchpad.png', which is also in
package kdelibs-data
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs5-data_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa3_all.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


any guesses?



From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Sat Jan 31 17:36:51 2009
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:36:51 -0500
Subject: wireless signal strength
Message-ID: <200901311236.51392.pkaplan1@comcast.net>

Is there a tool to quantify the strength of the wireless signal of my home 
network at different places in house?

The visual info in the guidance tray icon doesn't seem to change even if I 
move the laptop right next to the router.
Paul



From jonorland at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 18:10:32 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:10:32 +0100
Subject: digiKam and Gwenview KDE 4.2
In-Reply-To: <gm1uo3$e8k$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200901302318.47086.gkourtev@gmail.com>
	<gm1uo3$e8k$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <b8d784880901311010v2b093160w5a1317f1cb76db87@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/31 Eberhard Roloff <tuxebi at gmx.de>:
> Georgi Kourtev wrote:
>> I was used to have under Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.1.x digiKam and Gwenview
>> installed at the same time. The first I use for my camera, the second is
>> a nice quick viewer of pictures.
>>
>>
>> Since upgraded to 4.2, both programs cannot be installed at the same
>> time. When I have digiKam installed and run installation of Gwenview,
>> adept replaces libkipi0 with libkipi6, and removes as well
>> libkipi-common, kipi-plugins, and digiKam itself. And the other way around.
>>
>>
>> Is there a way to have both? Thanks.
>>
> Well,
>
> if you are feeling adventurous:
> https://launchpad.net/~digikam-experimental/+archive/ppa
>
> I an using it and I am very happy with it, but your mileage may vary. ;-)
>

I tried it on my Intrepid with KDE 4.2 from PPA but it dont work, it
start up fine but i dont see any pictures. Is this a known bug?

/ Jonas



From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Sat Jan 31 18:30:09 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:30:09 -0800
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <4983C817.4050103@gatech.edu>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<200901301600.04161.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<4983C817.4050103@gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <200901311030.10047.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Friday 30 January 2009 7:40:07 pm Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Pastor JW wrote:
> >> Can you do:
> >>
> >> host -v medibuntu.org
> >> host -v packages.medibuntu.org
> >>
> >> grep medibuntu /etc/hosts*
> >>
> >> and post the output.
> >
> > Sure!
> >
> > jw at jws-dell:~$ host -v medibuntu.org
> > Trying "medibuntu.org"
> > ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
> > jw at jws-dell:~$ host -v packages.medibuntu.org
> > Trying "packages.medibuntu.org"
> > ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
> > jw at jws-dell:~$ grep medibuntu /etc/hosts*
>
> Hmm, the fact that it's a timeout not NXDOMAIN could indicate
> shenanigans since you say all other queries are working.

Thats what led to my first question.  The browser went fine to anyplace else I 
wanted to go, just not to the medibuntu site.  I was going there to see if 
they had changed something which made their site not update in the Update 
Manager.  

> Are you sure all the machines all have the same DNS settings (do you
> know how they're getting assigned DNS servers?)?  Can you post
> /etc/resolv.conf from a machine on the LAN that works and one that doesn't?

### BEGIN INFO
#
# Modified_by:  NetworkManager
# Process:      /usr/bin/NetworkManager
# Process_id:   5459
#
### END INFO

search domain.actdsltmp


nameserver 192.168.0.1
nameserver 216.229.160.10

and from the one which does:

#Dynamic resolve.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
#	DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- yOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
nameserver 192.168.2.1
search Belkin

> Also, can you do:
>
> host -v google.com
>
> on the machine where it's not working.

Trying "google.com"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 28435
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;google.com.                    IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
google.com.             300     IN      A       74.125.45.100
google.com.             300     IN      A       74.125.67.100
google.com.             300     IN      A       209.85.171.100

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
google.com.             345600  IN      NS      ns3.google.com.
google.com.             345600  IN      NS      ns4.google.com.
google.com.             345600  IN      NS      ns2.google.com.
google.com.             345600  IN      NS      ns1.google.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.google.com.         345600  IN      A       216.239.32.10
ns2.google.com.         345600  IN      A       216.239.34.10
ns3.google.com.         345600  IN      A       216.239.36.10
ns4.google.com.         345600  IN      A       216.239.38.10

Received 212 bytes from 216.229.160.10#53 in 75 ms
Trying "google.com"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 20497
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;google.com.                    IN      AAAA

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
google.com.             300     IN      SOA     ns1.google.com. 
dns-admin.google
.com. 2009012900 7200 1800 1209600 300

Received 78 bytes from 216.229.160.10#53 in 106 ms
Trying "google.com"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 28475
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 8

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;google.com.                    IN      MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
google.com.             10800   IN      MX      10 smtp3.google.com.
google.com.             10800   IN      MX      10 smtp4.google.com.
google.com.             10800   IN      MX      10 smtp1.google.com.
google.com.             10800   IN      MX      10 smtp2.google.com.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
google.com.             345600  IN      NS      ns4.google.com.
google.com.             345600  IN      NS      ns3.google.com.
google.com.             345600  IN      NS      ns2.google.com.
google.com.             345600  IN      NS      ns1.google.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
smtp1.google.com.       3600    IN      A       209.85.237.25
smtp2.google.com.       3600    IN      A       64.233.165.25
smtp3.google.com.       3600    IN      A       64.233.183.25
smtp4.google.com.       3600    IN      A       72.14.221.25
ns1.google.com.         345600  IN      A       216.239.32.10
ns2.google.com.         345600  IN      A       216.239.34.10
ns3.google.com.         345600  IN      A       216.239.36.10
ns4.google.com.         345600  IN      A       216.239.38.10

Received 316 bytes from 216.229.160.10#53 in 73 ms
jw at jws-dell:~$





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From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org  Sat Jan 31 19:08:36 2009
From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:08:36 -0800
Subject: medibuntu
In-Reply-To: <1233379623.7466.536.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
References: <200901290808.15137.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>
	<49823620.40001@ajinfosearch.com>
	<1233379623.7466.536.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
Message-ID: <200901311108.36179.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org>

On Friday 30 January 2009 9:27:03 pm Ric Moore wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 18:05 -0500, Alan Dacey wrote:
> > Pastor JW wrote:
> > > On Thursday 29 January 2009 8:20:04 am Jerry Gaiser wrote:
> > >> On Thursday 29 January 2009 08:08, Pastor JW wrote:
> > >>> Anyone have any idea what happened to the medibuntu repositories for
> > >>> hardy? I don't find anything at their address at all using
> > >>> http://www.medibuntu.org Is this the wrong address now?  Seemed to
> > >>> have quit a couple days ago according to my Update Manager.
> > >>
> > >> Works fine out here in Oregon
> > >
> > > All right, it must be my ISP's DNS servers then.  none of my browsers
> > > will go there.  they all come back with "Unknown host
> > > www.medibuntu.org"'  I'm located not so far from Oregon, about 6 miles!
> > >  I live in Walla Walla.  I went checking cause my Update Manager came
> > > back saying, "last updated 43 hours ago" yet there was few updates this
> > > morning anyway.  I found it to be the medibuntu one which was not
> > > updating so was trying to find out why. Thanks for the info.
>
> Again, same problem here. I had to recycle that page using firefox 3
> times to pick up on the website. Then, it finally picked it up. Ric

Have you noticed any other sites you can't get to?  I have not, but then I 
rarely have time for surfin'  :)  since that /ect/resolv.conf file is written 
by the network manager, did we have an update of that in the last few days?  
Actually in trying to look into Network-manager bugs I found another URL 
which didn't work!  http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManagerToDo  It did the same 
thing in both browsers as the medibunu one did.  


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From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 19:42:07 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:42:07 +0200
Subject: Photograph file dates
Message-ID: <880dece00901311142k5ff342f2w402243e3a7af232e@mail.gmail.com>

1) How can I change the dates of files? I know about the touch
command, but I'd rather give her a GUI program. She has a few tens of
files to change the dates of.

2) How can I see the date information in a jpeg? Is there a program
that can use that information to set the date of a file as per the
exif information?

Thanks!

-- 
Dotan Cohen

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http://gibberish.co.il

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а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Sat Jan 31 19:56:06 2009
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:56:06 -0500
Subject: Photograph file dates
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901311142k5ff342f2w402243e3a7af232e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00901311142k5ff342f2w402243e3a7af232e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901311456.07239.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>

On Saturday 31 January 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2) How can I see the date information in a jpeg? Is there a program
> that can use that information to set the date of a file as per the
> exif information?

I think digikam can do this



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 20:02:03 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:02:03 +0200
Subject: Photograph file dates
In-Reply-To: <200901311456.07239.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
References: <880dece00901311142k5ff342f2w402243e3a7af232e@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901311456.07239.bmarsh@bmarsh.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00901311202v31b98250td93d57a1d0f39e6b@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/31 Bruce Marshall <bmarsh at bmarsh.com>:
> On Saturday 31 January 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> 2) How can I see the date information in a jpeg? Is there a program
>> that can use that information to set the date of a file as per the
>> exif information?
>
> I think digikam can do this
>

But Digikam needs to import and move the files. Also, in this
particular case, Digikam is already used on the computer for managing
unrelated photos, and she doesn't want to mix them all up.

I am looking for a program that I can point at a photo (or a folder of
photos) and get to work.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

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А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я
а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From godshatter at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 31 20:08:55 2009
From: godshatter at yahoo.com (Paul Rumelhart)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:08:55 -0800
Subject: Photograph file dates
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901311142k5ff342f2w402243e3a7af232e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00901311142k5ff342f2w402243e3a7af232e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4984AFD7.9010709@yahoo.com>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 1) How can I change the dates of files? I know about the touch
> command, but I'd rather give her a GUI program. She has a few tens of
> files to change the dates of.
>
> 2) How can I see the date information in a jpeg? Is there a program
> that can use that information to set the date of a file as per the
> exif information?
>
> Thanks!
>
>   

I've never done this, but the krusader gui tool allows for new 
useractions to be added to the list.  Adding a "touch" useraction should 
be relatively trivial as far as creating useractions goes.

Paul




From kap4lin at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 20:13:15 2009
From: kap4lin at gmail.com (P Kapat)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:13:15 -0500
Subject: Upgrade KDE to 4.2
In-Reply-To: <266ff2be0901310848jd161d1bx5e6ff8152490e023@mail.gmail.com>
References: <266ff2be0901281916k5f9e072fx9b3d2cdac981a672@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090128225033.a71c6bd5.claydoh@midmaine.com>
	<266ff2be0901291758s7096930kdbb29ffd94b71a61@mail.gmail.com>
	<daef5be80901300159nfa3a711g16c2ab4b9bb0bea7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4982DCD8.40809@michaelzoet.de>
	<266ff2be0901310848jd161d1bx5e6ff8152490e023@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <daef5be80901311213l1e25b6cbr7de9f052a4265b08@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Amila Liyanaarachchi
<amila.uoc at gmail.com> wrote:
> hello,
>
> An error message which I got while trying to fix the prob,
>
> dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs5-data_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa3_all.deb
> (--unpack):
>  trying to overwrite
> `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/launchpad.png', which is also in
> package kdelibs-data

> any guesses?

yes, your kde installation is messed up... do the following. log out
of kde (if at all you are in). take a backup of your ".kde" and
".kde4" by doing

$ cd /home/username
$ cp -a .kde .kde3.bak
$ cp -a .kde4 .kde4.bak

 then as root (or use sudo)

$ /etc/init.d/kdm stop
$ apt-get --purge remove kde* kdm*

this will remove kde completely - a lot of packages will be gone. then
make sure you have the kubuntu-experimental's ppa repo in your
sources.list:

$ grep "kubuntu-experimental" /etc/apt/sources.list
$ grep "kubuntu-experimental" /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*

one of the above two should give you the corresponding lines.If not,
then add the correct repos as specified in other mails.... Then

$ apt-get update
$ apt-cache policy kdebase kdm

here you should see the 4.2 version as the candidate

$ apt-get install kdebase kdebase-workspace kdm

this should, I hope, give you the basic kde 4.2 from there on you can
install whatever you want...

-- 
Regards
PK
--------------------------------------
http://counter.li.org  #402424



From j_e_n_pub at yahoo.dk  Sat Jan 31 20:13:27 2009
From: j_e_n_pub at yahoo.dk (Johnny Ernst Nielsen)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:13:27 +0100
Subject: Last 100 changed files?
In-Reply-To: <ujae56-3dn.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
References: <880dece00901310300q536cd7belabc9613357888de1@mail.gmail.com>
	<200901311713.26033.j_e_n_pub@yahoo.dk>
	<ujae56-3dn.ln1@pointerstop.ca>
Message-ID: <200901312113.27821.j_e_n_pub@yahoo.dk>

Greetings Derek :o)

We're drifting...

lørdag den 31. Januar 2009 kvad Derek Broughton:
> >> If you want to search on an entire filesystem there's kfind as
> >> Jonas and Johnny suggest
> >
> > In KDE3 kfind can also search whatever folder one specify, as
> > well as exclude or include sub folders beneath said folde,
> > whatever the user likes.
>
> Sure - it just doesn't seem that important to use it if all you
> want is to look at the contents of your home directory.

While it may not be important to me or you, it may be important to the 
OP.
I just answer the OP's question as best I can. :o)

> >> (though [kfind] isn't on _my_ KDE 4.1 menu, Johnny)
> >
> > I don't know about KDE4. That's why I specifically wrote KDE3 in
> > my previous answer.
>
> Ah... I mistook your comment as applying to specific versions,
> rather than Kubuntu vs "standard" KDE (is there really such a
> thing?)

I would say that the KDE source package that is released from the KDE 
project, is considered "the standard KDE package", i.e. "vanilla 
KDE".
I'm sure you know that different distributions then make more or less 
changes to KDE when they integrate KDE into their particular flavour 
of a distribution.
I simply recall a message on a list like this, helping a new user 
finding "the search application" in the menu of "vanilla KDE3", in 
the process telling that it was called kfind.

It was in the earlier KDE3 days, so I actually don't know if vanilla 
KDE 3.5.x still has kfind in the menu.

What KDE4 is like I have no idea, since I haven't used it yet.
(Plan to, though, when kubuntu 9.4 comes out :o))

Best regards

Johnny :o)




From rayburke30 at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 31 20:21:38 2009
From: rayburke30 at hotmail.com (Ray Burke)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:21:38 +1100
Subject: re Kubuntu 8.04 dual boot clonning using ghost
Message-ID: <BLU143-W2175A651770820746BAA94CDC70@phx.gbl>


anyone out there help?????

I have Kubuntu 8.0.4 dual boot with XP pro sp2, I have clonned the K thru
paragon 8 to save as backup(when in xp pro o/s), but  when I try and Ghost (for clone)the xp pro sp2, it dosent
work as when connect the this backup to master as the original xp pro sp2 is master, and boot
it just comes back in step for grub just continually printing on screen grub grub grub grub grub etc
so what is happening????????? can some help

ray

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From john at wexfordpress.com  Sat Jan 31 20:53:59 2009
From: john at wexfordpress.com (John Culleton)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:53:59 -0500
Subject: Last 100 changed files?
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901310300q536cd7belabc9613357888de1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00901310300q536cd7belabc9613357888de1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200901311554.00045.john@wexfordpress.com>

On Saturday 31 January 2009 06:00:54 am Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Is there a way that a user can list the last 100 changed files in
> his home directory? I mean to do this _without_ resorting to the
> console? See the comments here for why I ask:
> http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/27/display-last-100-changed-files/
>
> --
> Dotan Cohen
>
>
It would not be that difficult to write a program to do this.  That is 
what someone did for windows.  But I don't know what the market for 
such a program would be, or how slow it would run.  
-- 
John Culleton
Resources for every author and publisher:
http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf
http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf
http://www.creativemindspress.com/newbiefaq.htm
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From wayward4now at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 21:24:23 2009
From: wayward4now at gmail.com (Ric Moore)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:24:23 -0500
Subject: How do I install a .bin. I downloaded a Java plugin needed to
	run some tests by the isp.
In-Reply-To: <200901310322.31164.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
References: <200901211245.23988.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<200901282108.05236.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
	<1233363786.7466.524.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>
	<200901310322.31164.stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1233437064.7466.584.camel@iam.wayward4now.net>

On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 03:22 -0500, Steven Vollom wrote:
> > Then there is one thing to consider, check out the LUG in the nearest
> > location, join their email list, if they have one and just describe your
> > condition and ask some one to come over sometime and help you with some
> > free lessons. I would bet you would get more than one taker and make
> > some friends. Make a batch of cookies. :)  Ric
> 
> I feel pretty stupid again.  That is a great idea.  I guess I have gotten to 
> the point where I have to ask for help to get my food and medicine; I hate to 
> impose on others, but can't think of a way to avoid the problem and still eat 
> and get my medicine.  For a few months, my helpers have made me wait until I 
> was out of medicine for about 3 days; each time I feel in trouble by the time 
> I get the meds again.  Same with food, but that is a couple of weeks past 
> when I need to shop now.  Because of that, my impositions feel so great the 
> idea never occurred to me.  I will do that, though.  Computer people seem to 
> love it a lot, and I know I enjoy the conversation and the sometime help I am 
> able to give others, so maybe there is someone like me, who won't mind 
> spending a few hours now and then with me.  It sure would be great.  Thanks 
> for the great idea, Ric.

Dealing with isolation is a royal bitch. I know about that and
depression. Linux people are great, especially when they encounter
another who is isolated, we're geeks and can spend too much keyboard
time and forget how to relate to others. That's why I like user groups
and Lugs. While it may be a room full of geeks, at least you're not
alone and with people of like interests! I hope you have some strong
deadbolts though. Ric 
-- 

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256 
https://nuoar.dev.java.net/
Verizon Cell # 434-774-4987




From pandarsson at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 31 21:47:49 2009
From: pandarsson at yahoo.com (Constantinos Maltezos)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:47:49 -0600
Subject: (litestep)
In-Reply-To: <1732336581233403189328@fastmobile.com>
References: <1732336581233403189328@fastmobile.com>
Message-ID: <200901311547.49784.pandarsson@yahoo.com>

On Saturday 31 January 2009 5:59:49 am golephish at gmail.com wrote:
> Hey thanks for maintaing this list. I am seconds away from installing
> kubuntu (i never sleep). I am excited to see it and hope kde is better than
> gnome. Anyone rember litestep? An oldschool shell replacemeny for
> windoze... I am hoping it is similar. Thanks for your time and greetz from
> atlanta,ga

I hope you like KDE, but if it's not what you're looking for, you might try 
WindowMaker.  Litestep was inspired by NextStep, and WindowMaker is the only 
current WM that is also inspired by NextStep.

I wonder whatever happened to AfterStep.



From d.mcglone at att.net  Sat Jan 31 22:30:32 2009
From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:30:32 -0500
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
In-Reply-To: <498468F1.7060905@swbell.net>
References: <18890497391233413856993@fastmobile.com>
	<498468F1.7060905@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <200901311730.33400.d.mcglone@att.net>

On Saturday 31 January 2009 10:06:25 am Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> golephish at gmail.com wrote:
> > 420... Really..
>
> No.
>
> 4.2.00
>
> Really.
>
> My reply below was a Copy + Paste right out of the About KDE window

I can confirm this.....

Dolphin
Version 1.2
Using KDE 4.2.00 (KDE 4.2.0)

....but check this out:

david at lappy:~$ kde-config --version
Qt: 3.3.8b
KDE: 3.5.10
kde-config: 1.0


-- 
David McG.



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 22:31:49 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 00:31:49 +0200
Subject: Photograph file dates
In-Reply-To: <4984AFD7.9010709@yahoo.com>
References: <880dece00901311142k5ff342f2w402243e3a7af232e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4984AFD7.9010709@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00901311431j38860cd3u3bdfafc4cdd16837@mail.gmail.com>

2009/1/31 Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>:
> I've never done this, but the krusader gui tool allows for new
> useractions to be added to the list.  Adding a "touch" useraction should
> be relatively trivial as far as creating useractions goes.
>

Well, Konqi does have the service menus that I could try to play with.

Thanks.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
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а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я
ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü

From paul at lemmons.name  Sat Jan 31 22:32:29 2009
From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:32:29 -0700
Subject: Photograph file dates
In-Reply-To: <880dece00901311142k5ff342f2w402243e3a7af232e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00901311142k5ff342f2w402243e3a7af232e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4984D17D.1090102@lemmons.name>

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 1) How can I change the dates of files? I know about the touch
> command, but I'd rather give her a GUI program. She has a few tens of
> files to change the dates of.
>
> 2) How can I see the date information in a jpeg? Is there a program
> that can use that information to set the date of a file as per the
> exif information?
>
> Thanks!
>   
Hello Dotan,

Here is a perl script that I wrote some time back that sends files to 
directories based on their dates and update the timestams on the file. I 
think I remember you being able to code in perl. This may or may not 
meet the need but I think it is close to what you are asking for. Take a 
look and let me know if you need any assistance modifying it.

I think "apt-get install libimage-info-perl" will get you all the parts 
you need to run the script.

-Paul

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use Image::Info qw(image_info dim);

$testing      = 0;
$fromImageDir = "/home/paul/pics";
$toImageDir   = "/home/paul/newPics";

opendir(PICS,$fromImageDir) or die "Unable to open $fromImageDir:$!\n";
while ($fileName = readdir(PICS))
{
   if (-f "$fromImageDir/$fileName" and $fileName =~ /jpg$/i)
   {
      $info = image_info("$fromImageDir/$fileName");
      if ($error = $info->{error})
      {
         print "Can't parse image info for file: 
$fromImageDir/$fileName, Reason: $error\n";
      }
      else
      {
         if (defined($info->{'DateTimeOriginal'})   and
             $info->{'DateTimeOriginal'} !~ /^\s*$/ and
             $info->{'DateTimeOriginal'} !~ /^0000/)
         {
            $newDir = substr($info->{'DateTimeOriginal'},0,10);
            $newDir =~ s/:/-/g;

            $timestamp = $info->{'DateTimeOriginal'};
            $timestamp =~ s/[: ]//g;
            if (length($timestamp) == 14)
            {
               substr($timestamp,12,0)= '.';
            }

            print "$fileName: $newDir, Original Date: 
".$info->{'DateTimeOriginal'}."\n";
            if (!(-e "$toImageDir/$newDir"))
            {
               if ($testing)
               {
                  print "Would make the directory: $toImageDir/$newDir\n";
               }
               else
               {
                  mkdir("$toImageDir/$newDir",0755) or die "Unable to 
create directory: $toImageDir/$newDir: $!\n";
               }
            }

            if (-e "$toImageDir/$newDir/$fileName")
            {
               print "... already exists, skipping\n";
            }
            else
            {
               if ($testing)
               {
                  print "Would move file $fromImageDir/$fileName to 
$toImageDir/$newDir/$fileName\n";
                  print "Would set timestamp to: $timestamp\n";
               }
               else
               {
                  if 
(rename("$fromImageDir/$fileName","$toImageDir/$newDir/$fileName"))
                  {
                     `touch -t $timestamp $toImageDir/$newDir/$fileName`;
                     print "... moved successfully and timestamp updated\n";
                  }
                  else
                  {
                     print "... Unable to move $fileName from 
$fromImageDir to $toImageDir/$newDir: $!\n";
                  }
               }
            }
         }
         else
         {
            print "No date found in picture exif data for picture: 
$fileName\n";
         }
      }
   }
}

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From paul at lemmons.name  Sat Jan 31 22:51:00 2009
From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:51:00 -0700
Subject: Photograph file dates
In-Reply-To: <4984D17D.1090102@lemmons.name>
References: <880dece00901311142k5ff342f2w402243e3a7af232e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4984D17D.1090102@lemmons.name>
Message-ID: <4984D5D4.7040608@lemmons.name>

Paul Lemmons wrote:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> 1) How can I change the dates of files? I know about the touch
>> command, but I'd rather give her a GUI program. She has a few tens of
>> files to change the dates of.
>>
>> 2) How can I see the date information in a jpeg? Is there a program
>> that can use that information to set the date of a file as per the
>> exif information?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>   
> Hello Dotan,
>
> Here is a perl script that I wrote some time back that sends files to 
> directories based on their dates and update the timestams on the file. 
> I think I remember you being able to code in perl. This may or may not 
> meet the need but I think it is close to what you are asking for. Take 
> a look and let me know if you need any assistance modifying it.
>
> I think "apt-get install libimage-info-perl" will get you all the 
> parts you need to run the script.
>
> -Paul
>
> <code snip>
Just read my own post and I think it needs a little explaining. I wrote 
it for myself so it has no comments. Not my normal style when sharing 
code. Anyway...

The first three assignments determine how the program will run and what 
it will do. Here is what they mean:

$testing = 0; # 0 = doit, 1 = just tell me what you would do
$fromImageDir = '...'; # this is the directory where your pictures reside
$toImageDir = '...'; # This is where your pictures will be moved (i.e 
not copied)

The $toImageDir will be a base directory. In it directories will be 
created in the format:"YYYY-MM-DD". For example "2009-01-31". The 
pictures will be moved into the directories that match the day they were 
taken.

I also notice that you asked for a GUI that your wife could use. I 
missed that when I first replied. Maybe, you could set up an icon that 
evokes this script. If your input and output directories are always the 
same that could work for her. If you need to update the input and out 
put directories, this may not be a good solution.

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From jonorland at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 22:52:03 2009
From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:52:03 +0100
Subject: 9.04: is KDE 4.2 ever making it to 8.10?
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2009/1/31 David McGlone <d.mcglone at att.net>:
> On Saturday 31 January 2009 10:06:25 am Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
>> golephish at gmail.com wrote:
>> > 420... Really..
>>
>> No.
>>
>> 4.2.00
>>
>> Really.
>>
>> My reply below was a Copy + Paste right out of the About KDE window
>
> I can confirm this.....
>
> Dolphin
> Version 1.2
> Using KDE 4.2.00 (KDE 4.2.0)
>
> ....but check this out:
>
> david at lappy:~$ kde-config --version
> Qt: 3.3.8b
> KDE: 3.5.10
> kde-config: 1.0
>

It should be kde4-config.

$ kde4-config --version
Qt: 4.4.3
KDE: 4.2.00 (KDE 4.2.0)
kde4-config: 1.0



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 23:12:44 2009
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 01:12:44 +0200
Subject: Photograph file dates
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Thanks, Paul. I don't really know perl, but I can follow along and see
what's happening in the code. It looks like perl has built in bindings
for reading exif data, that's great!

> I also notice that you asked for a GUI that your wife could use.

I could set up Konqueror so that the script will be in the Open With... menu.

It's not quite what I was looking for, but it should get the job done. Thanks.

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Dotan Cohen

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