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Billie Erin Walsh bilwalsh at swbell.net
Thu Aug 13 05:17:39 BST 2009


Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 August 2009 07:03:08 pm Clay Weber wrote:
>   
>> On Wednesday 12 August 2009 06:15:58 pm John L Vifian wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wednesday 12 August 2009 1:12:27 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>       
>>>> steven at Yeshua:~$ less sources.list
>>>> sources.list: No such file or directory
>>>> steven at Yeshua:~$
>>>>         
>>> Steven, you should be able to figure out why this isn't working by
>>> yourself.
>>>
>>> First run: info less to find out what less does.
>>>
>>> Then if the output of your less command says:" sources.list: No such file
>>> or directory" then perhaps it is telling the truth and there is no
>>> sources,list in your home directory of /home/Yeshua/, which is just fine
>>> as there shouldn't be one there.   The file is in /etc/apt/ so you either
>>> have to run less from that directory or supply the full path and filename
>>> to less.
>>>
>>> As others have told you by now less /etc/apt/sources.list will do the
>>> trick, although I would recommend cat instead of less just in case the
>>> last few lines are what people need to see.
>>>
>>> Good luck
>>>
>>> John Vifian
>>>       
>> I think we have too many threads on this subject :), this is OT for this
>> one anyway :), and imo Steven needs a gui based bit of help at the moment
>> --
>> Clay Weber
>> http://kubuntuforums.net
>> http://flyballmaine.com
>> http://emacdogsports.com
>>     
>
> I remember using less once in the past, but it has been a long time, and I 
> really do not remember what to expect in the way of information.  I typed the 
> following into the CLI and here is what I got:
>
> steven at Yeshua:~$ less /etc/apt/sources.lst
> /etc/apt/sources.lst: No such file or directory
> steven at Yeshua:~$
>   
>
> Additionally, I expected some kind of list, but what I got is a GUI of 
> Software Sources, like I would get if I opened it in KpackageKit.  What I was 
> expecting if in a GUI was perhaps Kate opening with a list of data to read.  
> Instead I get a screen with 5 tabs across the top, Ubuntu Software, Third-
> Party Software, Updates, Authentication, and Statistics.
>
> The items Listed are all check-boxed starting with Canonical-supported Open 
> Source software (main) and ending with Source code.
>
> It shows I have downloaded from the Main server. 
>
> In a box at the bottom,  it says the following:
>
> To install from a CD-ROM or DVD, insert the medium into the drive.
>
> This confuses me, because I don't know what medium they are referring to.  Is 
> it the Kubuntu 64bit Live CD, or what?
>
> Next I tried:  less kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.lst and got the followiing:
>
> steven at Yeshua:~$ less kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.lst
> kdesudo: No such file or directory
> kate: No such file or directory
> /etc/apt/sources.lst: No such file or directory
> steven at Yeshua:~$
>
> I know this is wrong, but I am trying to show your where my thought process 
> goes with the current effort.  Next I tried kdesudo kate and got the following:
>
> A screen opened with no data on it at all.  I clicked on the Terminal at the 
> bottom of the screen and got a root at Yeshua:~#.  I typed in 
> /etc/apt/sources.lst and got the following:
>
> root at Yeshua:~# /etc/apt/sources.lst
> bash: /etc/apt/sources.lst: No such file or directory
> root at Yeshua:~#
>
> I expected to have kate open again, this time with editable data in it.  The 
> GUI did not change at all.  It still remained empty.
>
> I realize I should probably not have expected that, but what I was attempting 
> to find was the editable sources.lst.
>
> I agree that it is time for me to learn this stuff, but I am obviously not 
> thinking in a logical pattern, or I should have gotten something to review.
>
> I am currently in my jaunty 64 bit kde 4.2.2 OS.  The line error has recently 
> changed when attempting to install an application.  It changed from line 62 to 
> line 58.
>
> I just opened KpackageKit and searched games just to try to install something 
> to see what would happen.  When I hit enter, an error message came on screen 
> which said:  Title No package cache is ava
>
> The package list needs to be rebuilt.  This should have been done by the I
>
> Details read the following:
>
> Package cache could not be opened.
>
> Obviously KpackageKit is not working properly.  I don't have any idea what to 
> ask for to enter a google search right now.  I have had a sufficient number of 
> failures to become very confused.
>
> I realize how foolish I must seem right now, but this is a common pattern for 
> me when looking for my own solutions without help.  And every time I fail on 
> several attempts to get an expected answer, I become confused and unable to 
> continue.  Nonetheless, when I return to try again, I repeat a similar path of 
> attempts and fail once again, resulting in a feeling of hopelessness.
>
> Normally I use the CLI to install applications; it has worked fine for a long 
> time, but now it does not work at all.
>
> You have seen how I tried to think out your suggestion.  Can you understand 
> and explain the improper thought process?  Am I getting the expected response 
> to my attempts at finding information, or is some application broken?
>
> I am sorry to be such a burden, but until I get this area of computing clear, 
> I will experience too much failure to continue.
>
> I did all these things prior to getting any suggestions regarding this problem 
> from the list.  Although I can only remember one time when using the less 
> command, I expected a lot of data to read.  When there was nothing, I must 
> have entered the command wrong.  Thanks for your patience in this matter.
>
> Steven
>
>   

When I use the suggested command I get the same result Steven does. 
Opening Dolphin and navigating to /etc/apt/ I see the "sources.lst". 
Clicking on it opens the "Software Sources"
 GUI. I can right click and "Open With" and select Kate and it opens. 
There are no line numbers but counting, even the blank lines, I only 
have 54 lines.

Steven, Try using Dolphin and be sure "View Hidden Files" is clicked. 
Select "Root" from the left side and navigate to /etc/apt/ and right 
click on "sources.lst" > select Kate. From there you can copy/paste the 
text into an e-mail.

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